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1 STATE OF 2 3 4 IN RE: MEETING OF THE GOVERNOR AND CABINET 5 ______/ 6 7 8 9 CABINET MEMBERS: GOVERNOR ATTORNEY GENERAL PAM BONDI 10 CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER JEFF ATWATER 11 COMMISSIONER OF AGRICULTURE ADAM PUTNAM 12 13 DATE: TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 2015 14 LOCATION: CABINET MEETING ROOM 15 LOWER LEVEL, THE CAPITOL TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA 16 17 REPORTED BY: NANCY S. METZKE, RPR, FPR COURT REPORTER 18 19 20 21 22 C & N REPORTERS POST OFFICE BOX 3093 23 TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA 32315-3093 (850) 697-8314 / FAX (850) 697-8715 24 [email protected] candnreporters.com 25

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1 INDEX PAGE NO. 2 3 Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles By Executive Director Rhodes 4 4 5 Office of Financial Regulation By Commissioner Breakspear 9 6 7 Office of Insurance Regulation By Commissioner McCarty 19 8 9 Office of Veterans Affairs By Executive Director Prendergast 25 10 11 Board of Trustees of the Internal Improvement Trust Fund 12 By Secretary Steverson 49 13 Division of Bond Finance 14 By Director Watkins 108 15 Administration Commission 16 By Mark Kruse 111 17 Florida Land and Water 18 Adjudicatory Commission By Mark Kruse 150 19 20 State Board of Administration By Executive Director Williams 151 21 22 Florida Land and Water Adjudicatory Commission Continued 23 By Mark Kruse 162 24 25

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1 P R O C E E D I N G S 2 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Good morning, and welcome to 4 the September 29th Cabinet meeting. 5 To begin our meeting, I'd like to welcome 6 Abbey Ruiz (phonetics) who is celebrating her 15th 7 birthday today out of the Thrive Youth Group to 8 lead the invocation. If you'll please remain 9 standing after the invocation for the pledge of 10 allegiance led by the fourth grade students from 11 Trinity Catholic School. 12 WHEREUPON, THE INVOCATION WAS GIVEN AND THE 13 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WAS SAID). 14 15 16 * * * * 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

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1 HIGHWAY SAFETY AND MOTOR VEHICLES 2 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Next I'd like to recognize 4 Terry Rhodes with the Department of Highway Safety 5 and Motor Vehicles. 6 Good morning, Terry. 7 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RHODES: Good morning, 8 Governor, General, CFO, Commissioner. 9 Today we've got four agenda items for your 10 consideration. Item Number 1 is to request 11 approval of the September 1st meeting minutes. 12 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a motion on the 13 item? 14 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: So moved. 15 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 16 CFO ATWATER: Second. 17 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 18 (NO RESPONSE). 19 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 20 carries. 21 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RHODES: Thank you. 22 The second item is the approval of the 23 Department's legislative package for this upcoming 24 session. We've got three issues. The first issue 25 is dealing with -- makes the number of days

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1 required to obtain a drivers' license and to change 2 an address consistent and uniform. 3 The second issue is to add the Road Rangers to 4 the move-over law. 5 And the third issue is a joint partnership 6 with the Department of Juvenile Justice to provide 7 ID cards to juveniles exiting their program at no 8 cost. That concludes our package. 9 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Is there a motion 10 on the item? 11 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: So moved. 12 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 13 CFO ATWATER: Second. 14 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Florida law requires the 15 Governor to independently review legislation upon 16 passage. Accordingly, I am abstaining from the 17 vote. 18 Any other comments or objections? 19 (NO RESPONSE). 20 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 21 carries with one abstention. 22 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RHODES: Thank you, 23 Governor. 24 The next item is Number 3, and it's to seek 25 approval to publish a notice of proposed rulemaking

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1 to amend Rule Chapter 15A-1.016. The Department 2 requests approval to file for final adoption if no 3 request for rule hearings are received as a result 4 of this notice. And this rule relates to the 5 driving skills test and the change that was 6 recommended by JAPC, the Joint Administrative 7 Procedures Committee. 8 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a motion on the 9 item? 10 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: So moved. 11 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 12 CFO ATWATER: Second. 13 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 14 (NO RESPONSE). 15 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 16 carries. 17 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RHODES: Thank you. 18 The fourth item is to request to publish a 19 notice of proposed rulemaking to amend Rule 15C-21, 20 a certificate of title. The Department requests 21 approval to file for final adoption if no requests 22 for rule hearings are received as a result of this 23 notice. This amendment is a technical change due 24 to the certificate of title form. 25 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a motion on the

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1 item? 2 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: So moved. 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 4 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Second. 5 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 6 (NO RESPONSE). 7 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 8 carries. 9 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RHODES: Thank you. 10 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Nice to see you, Terry. 11 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RHODES: Governor, if you 12 could indulge me just a moment, I'd like to 13 introduce the new Colonel of the Florida Highway 14 Patrol, Colonel Gene Spalding. 15 (APPLAUSE). 16 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RHODES: And I'm so happy 17 he's here, and I know all of y'all had a chance to 18 talk with him and meet with him. He's got over 19 22 years of experience with the Patrol, and he is 20 so respected amongst the troops, and he is a man 21 that has a vision for public safety. And I'm just 22 very, very proud to introduce him here today. 23 Thank you. 24 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you for being here. 25 COLONEL SPALDING: Governor, General, CFO,

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1 Commissioner, I just want to say thank you. I know 2 after I got the appointment, each one of you 3 reached out to me and offered your support. I do 4 truly appreciate that and look forward to working 5 with you at this level. 6 I especially want to thank Director Rhodes for 7 having the confidence in me to lead the Patrol and 8 serve with the men and women of the Florida Highway 9 Patrol. 10 I would submit that we have one of the 11 greatest law enforcement agencies in the country, 12 and our goal is to continue to provide the service 13 to the citizens and the visitors to the State of 14 Florida at the highest level of professionalism and 15 courtesy, and that's what we look forward to doing. 16 Again, thank you for all the support, and look 17 forward to working with you in the future. 18 Thank you, sir. 19 (APPLAUSE). 20 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Let's come up for a picture. 21 (WHEREUPON, PHOTOGRAPHS WERE TAKEN). 22 23 * * * * 24 25

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1 OFFICE OF FINANCIAL REGULATION 2 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Next up I'd like to recognize 4 Drew Breakspear with the Office of Financial 5 Regulation. 6 COMMISSIONER BREAKSPEAR: Good morning, 7 Governor Scott. 8 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Good morning. 9 COMMISSIONER BREAKSPEAR: Attorney 10 General Bondi, CFO Atwater, and 11 Commissioner Putnam. 12 The OFR has two items for your consideration 13 today. The first item, the OFR respectfully 14 requests approval for final adoption of the rules 15 relating to the regulation of mortgage loan 16 originators and mortgage entities. 17 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Is there a motion? 18 CFO ATWATER: So moved. 19 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Second? 20 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Second. 21 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: So moved. The rules 22 have passed. 23 COMMISSIONER BREAKSPEAR: Thank you. 24 The second agenda item is the OFR quarterly 25 report for the fiscal year 2014/15 fourth quarter,

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1 April 1st, 2015, to April 30th of 2015 (sic). The 2 OFR has provided its quarterly report for 3 quarter four of the fiscal year. This covers the 4 time period April the 1st through June 30th. 5 The report includes the new OFR performance 6 measures, as well as my subjective leadership 7 assessment. These metrics were approved by the 8 Financial Services Commission on May the 5th. 9 In terms of the measures themselves, 10 Measures 1 through 4 continue to be at a hundred 11 percent for each of the measures. 12 Measure 5, in quarter four, the average number 13 of days from receipt of a license application to 14 date of approval moved from four days to six days. 15 We believe this slight movement in quarter four was 16 largely driven by an increase in Measure 6, which 17 I'll address in a minute, which captures the same 18 information and is a subset of this particular 19 license type. 20 In Measure 6, in quarter four, the average 21 days to approve mortgage lender licenses increased 22 from 38 days to 54 days. The Division of Consumer 23 Finance received 26 mortgage lender license 24 applications during the quarter. Four of these 25 26 applications took longer than usual to process

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1 because the Division worked with these applicants 2 to address outstanding deficiencies in order to 3 avoid denial of the applications. 4 This was a better alternative to us than 5 having the applicant reapply, which would have 6 required additional fees from the licensees. 7 Essentially, we worked with them to get everything 8 done so they could get licensed. It is important 9 to note that this metric was already decreased to 10 34 days in the first quarter of fiscal year 2015 to 11 2016. 12 Measure 7, the percentage of financial 13 institutions rating the OFR high performing 14 increased from 97 to 98 percent. 15 And for Measure 8, in the fourth -- 16 quarter four, the average number of days to issue 17 deficiency letters decreased from 11 -- increased, 18 sorry -- from 11 days to 21 days. During 19 March 2015, the Division of Securities experienced 20 a 63 percent increase in the number of 21 state-registered investment advisor applications 22 received. 23 It is important to note that the average of 24 21 days that we saw in quarter four was well below 25 the statutorily mandated 30-day time frame for this

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1 measure. As I said, this is a snapshot in time. 2 This measure has already improved to 15 days for 3 quarter one of 2014/15 (sic). 4 I would now like to highlight a few items from 5 my selective leadership assessment that speak to 6 the current efforts of the OFR. First is 7 crowdfunding short term, the crowdfunding 8 initiative put in place by the , 9 and the law takes effect on October 1. 10 Our efforts regarding crowdfunding are 11 important because this relatively new fundraising 12 tool has created another vehicle for small 13 businesses to raise capital, grow, and create jobs. 14 A focus area of our attention for this next quarter 15 includes rulemaking and systems development around 16 this initiative. 17 The second is the check-cashing database. The 18 soft launch of the database was completed on 19 September the 3rd. All check cashers will be 20 required to use the database starting 21 October the 1st. The last time we looked at this, 22 approximately 385 of the 800 licensed check cashers 23 are now using the database, and licensees have 24 entered roughly 10,000 transactions. These are all 25 checks cashed over $1,000.

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1 We will continue to monitor this information 2 going forward into the formal launch on 3 October the 1st, and we're already seeing some 4 useful data coming out of the initial information 5 put in the check-cashing database. Longer term, 6 we're looking at employee training initiatives. 7 I would like to share next some examples of 8 our efforts to implement employee training 9 initiatives to address the staff turnover described 10 in my initial subjective leadership assessment 11 responses. 12 The OFR is launching staff training engagement 13 programs to increase our ability to hire, train, 14 and particularly retrain -- retain qualified staff. 15 I've directed my leadership team to put additional 16 resources towards training efforts, including 17 hiring internal dedicated trainers that can provide 18 consistent and timely responses to the Agency's 19 training needs. 20 My team is developing on-line training tools 21 that can be enabled on demand for a given training 22 topic. One training tool to mention is development 23 of the Division of Securities' training manuals for 24 new employees which cover elements needed in order 25 to be successful during the first few months on the

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1 job. These targeted new tools, along with 2 on-the-job training, have helped facilitate greater 3 job satisfaction and a shorter timeline to achieve 4 proficiency. 5 I do have a few questions for members of the 6 Financial Services Commission. As we've identified 7 in this quarter four report, there are external 8 factors that influence some of the metrics. At 9 some point, I would appreciate the opportunity to 10 address redefining a couple of these measures so 11 that we may paint a clearer picture on the Agency's 12 performance. 13 Secondly, it is my understanding that our 14 agency will continue to submit the OFR performance 15 measures as they are, and at the end of fiscal year 16 2015/16 we'll submit the OFR performance measures 17 with the subjective leadership assessments and 18 receive a score for the year. 19 Is that correct on that? And -- 20 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Governor, speaking only 21 for myself, that was my understanding. When I 22 submitted for the Cabinet's consideration the 23 subjective component, my thought process was that 24 that would be part of your annual submission, not 25 your quarterly submission; and that would apply to

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1 all Cabinet agencies. 2 So if there is -- if the rest of the Cabinet 3 sees it a different way, we're certainly open to 4 that conversation, but I did not ever have the 5 expectation that you would respond to the 6 subjective questions quarterly; rather they would 7 be part of your annual evaluation. 8 GOVERNOR SCOTT: That was my understanding. 9 COMMISSIONER BREAKSPEAR: Okay. 10 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: I'm fine with that. 11 COMMISSIONER BREAKSPEAR: Okay. Thank you 12 very much. 13 Lastly, when we come back for the annual 14 assessment, my question is: How would you like the 15 information to be presented, just for quarter four 16 or the fiscal year, or both? And we can -- we'll 17 have the data, so -- 18 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Both. 19 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Both. 20 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Agreed. 21 COMMISSIONER BREAKSPEAR: Thank you. That 22 concludes my presentation. 23 CFO ATWATER: Governor, may I ask something? 24 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Yeah. CFO? 25 CFO ATWATER: Commissioner, thank you.

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1 I might suggest also that -- at least 2 Commissioner Putnam positioned it this way, I'll 3 position it the same way: My perspective only, and 4 there may be other feedback, that when there are 5 matters that you're doing, and I believe the right 6 thing, to work with someone who has deficiencies in 7 their application or unaddressed matters that's 8 taking them a longer period of time to document, I 9 don't see that as wanting to be a negative to us as 10 government trying to help a citizen find a job and, 11 therefore, someone thinking, I'm going to have to 12 somehow get creative in my reporting process to not 13 be held accountable to something I can't control. 14 So my point is, you know, I guess it's on 15 Number -- on your mortgage lender licenses, 16 Number 6, it would just seem to me, and I'd be open 17 to the idea, that you would present us with all 18 matters within your control, and what timeline were 19 they addressed? So once you had all the 20 documentation necessary to make the decision, then 21 what was the timeline? 22 I certainly want you to go the extra mile if 23 you can to assist somebody and don't want that to 24 be detrimental to the Department's rating. 25 COMMISSIONER BREAKSPEAR: Well, thank you,

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1 CFO. We reported as the required, but we did have 2 a few ones where we could have made the number look 3 better by just closing it out and saying: Get back 4 to us. We didn't feel that was the right thing for 5 people in Florida, so we worked with them and we 6 took the hit on it. 7 And I could report a split measure, which is 8 total, and from the time it's complete or change 9 it. That's why I asked if we could come back at 10 some point and refine it, and I appreciate your 11 input. 12 CFO ATWATER: That's my input, yeah. 13 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Any other 14 questions or comments? 15 (NO RESPONSE). 16 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a motion to accept 17 the report? 18 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: So moved. 19 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 20 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Second. 21 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 22 carries. 23 COMMISSIONER BREAKSPEAR: Thank you very much. 24 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you, Drew. 25

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1 OFFICE OF INSURANCE REGULATION 2 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Next we would like to 4 recognize Kevin McCarty with the Office of 5 Insurance Regulation. 6 Good morning, Kevin. 7 COMMISSIONER McCARTY: Good morning. 8 Good morning, Governor, and members of the 9 Financial Services Commission. We have five items 10 for your consideration today. 11 Agenda Item Number 1 is for the approval of 12 the minutes from the August 5th, 2015, meeting of 13 the Financial Services Commission. 14 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a motion on the 15 item? 16 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: So moved. 17 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 18 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Second. 19 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 20 (NO RESPONSE). 21 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 22 carries. 23 COMMISSIONER McCARTY: With respect to Item 24 Number 2 is a request for approval for the office 25 to enter into a contract with a proposed consultant

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1 to conduct a comprehensive review of the workers' 2 compensation peer review. Florida law requires 3 that on every other year that the Financial 4 Services Commission enter into a contract for an 5 independent actuarial evaluation to analyze the 6 ratemaking process of licensed rating organizations 7 that make rate filings on behalf of our insurance 8 industry who work on workers' compensation in the 9 State of Florida. 10 The NCCI, the National Council on Compensation 11 Insurance, is responsible for collecting and 12 analyzing our data, as well as proposing rate 13 changes on behalf of our insurance companies for 14 our state. 15 By law, the contract requires the submission 16 of a final report to be submitted to you, the 17 members of the Commission; as well as the President 18 of the Senate; the Speaker of the House by 19 February 1st, 2016. The Office has conducted a 20 formal request for quote process in order to meet 21 the statutory requirement. 22 It is recommended that the Office, on behalf 23 of the Financial Services Commission, enter into an 24 agreement, as we have presented in your materials, 25 to be awarded to Oliver Wyman actuarial consultant,

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1 to conduct that peer review. 2 Oliver Wyman received the highest score of the 3 eight respondents that responded to the request for 4 quotes, and the proposal is for $15,000. 5 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Is there a motion 6 on the item? 7 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: So moved. 8 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 9 CFO ATWATER: Second. 10 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 11 (NO RESPONSE). 12 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 13 carries. 14 COMMISSIONER McCARTY: Thank you, Governor. 15 Item Number 3 is request for approval for 16 publication of Rule 690-154.202, 203, and 204 17 concerning long-term morbidity tables. Over time 18 mortality and morbidity tables change and reflect 19 changes of anticipated mortality or morbidity. 20 The National Association of Insurance 21 Commissioners has adopted updated morbidity tables 22 applicable to long-term disability. The rule is 23 amended to adopt the most updated morbidity tables 24 to be used for development of rates and benefits in 25 the State of Florida.

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1 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a motion on the 2 item? 3 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: So moved. 4 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 5 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Second. 6 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 7 (NO RESPONSE). 8 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 9 carries. 10 COMMISSIONER McCARTY: Regarding Item Number 4 11 is request for approval for final adoption of the 12 repeal of Rule 690-157.302, '3, and '4 on long-term 13 care rates. These rates -- these rules are being 14 repealed, and the long-term care facility-only 15 rates, home healthcare rates, as well as 16 comprehensive rates will now be published on an 17 annual basis on the Florida Office of Insurance 18 Regulation's website to facilitate a more robust 19 and responsive updating of the most recent 20 published new business rates. The new business 21 rates are determined and prescribed by statute and 22 is not required to be adopted by rule. 23 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Is there a motion 24 on the item? 25 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: So moved.

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1 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 2 CFO ATWATER: Second. 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any other comments or 4 objections? 5 (NO RESPONSE). 6 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 7 carries. 8 COMMISSIONER McCARTY: Our last item today, 9 Governor, is the request for approval for final 10 adoption of proposed amendments to Rule 690-166.031 11 having to do with mediation of property insurance 12 claims. The rule governs administrative 13 requirements for Florida law regarding mediation of 14 residential and commercial property insurance 15 claims. 16 The Department of Financial Services has the 17 statutory obligation for this program, and adopted 18 by their rule; therefore, the revised OIR rule 19 simply cross-references the jurisdictions of the 20 Department of Financial Services' rule and 21 maintains a penalty for any insurer who fails to 22 comply with the required mediation conference. 23 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Is there a motion 24 on the item? 25 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: So moved.

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1 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 2 CFO ATWATER: Second. 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any other comments or 4 objections? 5 (NO RESPONSE). 6 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 7 carries. 8 COMMISSIONER McCARTY: Thank you, Governor, 9 members of the Commission. 10 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thanks, Kevin. 11 12 13 14 * * * * 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

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1 DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS 2 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Next I'd like to recognize 4 Mike Prendergast with the Department of Veterans 5 Affairs. 6 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR PRENDERGAST: Good morning, 7 Governor Scott, General Bondi, CFO Atwater, and 8 Commissioner Putnam. 9 The Department of Veterans Affairs has three 10 agenda items for your consideration today. 11 Agenda Item 1 consists of the minutes for the 12 August 5th, 2015, Cabinet meeting. We respectfully 13 request approval of those minutes. 14 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a motion on the 15 item? 16 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: So moved. 17 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 18 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Second. 19 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 20 (NO RESPONSE). 21 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 22 carries. 23 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR PRENDERGAST: Thank you. 24 Agenda Item 2 is the recommended list of names 25 for the 2015 class of the Florida Veterans Hall of

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1 Fame. The Florida Veterans Hall of Fame recognizes 2 and honors those military veterans who, through 3 their works and lives, both during and after their 4 military service, have made a significant 5 contribution to the State of Florida through civic, 6 business, public service, or other pursuits, but 7 mainly focused on taking care of our veterans who 8 make up the third largest population of veterans in 9 the nation. 10 Earlier this summer, the Florida Veterans Hall 11 of Fame Council met to select the class of 2015 12 from the field of over 31 nominees that were 13 submitted to the Council. From the initial group, 14 eight finalists were selected for a recommendation 15 to you for consideration into -- for induction into 16 the Hall of Fame for the class of 2015. 17 The Florida Department of Veterans Affairs is 18 honored to forward the names of the following 19 distinguished nominees to you for consideration of 20 induction into the 2015 class of the Florida 21 Veterans Hall of Fame: 22 Captain Charles Bennett; Sergeant 23 Larry Campbell; Command Chief Master Sergeant 24 Charles LaCroix; First Lieutenant Lawton Chiles; 25 Colonel Curtis Ebbetts; Colonel Rocky McPherson;

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1 Sergeant Virgil Myers; and Major General Earl Peck. 2 I will now briefly highlight each of these nominees 3 for you. 4 Captain Charles Edward Bennett served in the 5 United States Army from 1942 to 1947. After his 6 service, he served for 44 years representing 7 Florida in the United States Congress. One of the 8 many things of note during his illustrious career 9 was sponsorship of the Americans with Disabilities 10 Act while he was a representative in the Florida 11 State Legislature. 12 Sergeant Larry Campbell, Leon County's very 13 own late sheriff, is being recommended for 14 induction into the Hall of Fame as well. 15 Sergeant Campbell's service includes service in the 16 United States Marine Corps right here in 17 Tallahassee; and after his military service, he 18 served in the law enforcement community for over 19 three decades where he was ultimately elected 20 sheriff in 1996 to be the county sheriff. 21 Sheriff Campbell served for nearly 20 years as 22 the Leon County Sheriff until he passed away late 23 last year. He also served on the Board of Honor 24 Flight Tallahassee and had many other affiliations 25 with community and civic organizations as part of

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1 his dedication and contributions to the State of 2 Florida and our community of veterans. 3 Chief -- Command Chief Master Sergeant 4 Charles LaCroix, who happens to be 86 years young, 5 resides right here in Tallahassee. He reached the 6 rank of Command Chief Master Sergeant, which is the 7 highest one can go in the Air Force. 8 Following his 22 years of military service, 9 Sergeant LaCroix retired and returned to Florida 10 and helped his fellow veterans through his active 11 participation in veterans service organizations, 12 assisting homeless veterans and other veterans 13 desiring access to their earned services and 14 benefits. 15 He also filled the post of the Commander of 16 the American Legion Post 13 right here in 17 Tallahassee and he's had numerous interactions of 18 compassion and caring for Florida's veterans across 19 the state during his years following his retirement 20 from active duty. 21 First Lieutenant Lawton Chiles. Of course we 22 all know that Governor Chiles served as the 23 governor of the great state of Florida from 1991 24 until his untimely death in 1998. His list of 25 accomplishments and contributions, both military

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1 and civic, are many. They range from establishment 2 of the Florida Department of Elder Affairs and to 3 serving three terms in the United States Senate 4 where he sponsored a broad range of legislation to 5 help military veterans. 6 Colonel Curtis Ebbetts, 75 years young, who 7 happens to live in Homosassa, Florida. 8 Colonel Ebbetts retired in 1992 with his last 9 assignment as the Senior Army Advisor to the 10 Adjutant General of the Florida National Guard, and 11 after a distinguished career of more than 28 years 12 as an infantry officer, a recipient of the 13 Purple Heart, and a participant of two combat tours 14 in Vietnam. 15 Since his retirement, Colonel Ebbetts has 16 dedicated his life to helping veterans by 17 organizing a nonprofit to help veterans in the 18 Citrus County area by founding a local chapter of 19 the Military Order of the Purple Heart; and he also 20 helped with legislation to authorize military 21 retirees to participate in the mail order pharmacy 22 program, which allows veterans to save time and 23 precious money to get their pharmacy prescriptions 24 refilled through the mail. 25 Colonel Warren "Rocky" McPherson.

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1 Colonel McPherson remains dedicated to our state 2 today, as all of you know, and he served on active 3 duty for more than 29 years in the United States 4 Marine Corps. 5 Currently he supports Florida's military and 6 defense community at Enterprise, Florida, where he 7 steadfastly works to preserve the military 8 installations in the face of declining budget 9 resources at the federal level. Concurrent to his 10 assignment and before it, he volunteers as a tutor 11 and mentor at high school; and is a member of 12 several veterans organizations across the state. 13 Since his retirement from active duty, 14 Colonel McPherson has worked tirelessly to advocate 15 for veterans in Florida and military service 16 members in our state, and every day serves as a 17 colleague for the Florida Department of Veterans 18 Affairs upon whom we rely extensively to gain 19 valuable information about what's happening across 20 our defense sector, which is so vitally important 21 to our state and our community. 22 Sergeant Gerald Myers, the late Sergeant Myers 23 fought in the Battle of the Bulge. He was one of 24 three American soldiers who helped to free 25 26,000 inmates at the Buchenwald Concentration Camp

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1 in Germany during the Second World War. 2 Sergeant Myers' brief but outstanding military 3 career concluded in January 1946. While only 4 having served two years, his experiences have been 5 archived in a digital collection of holocaust and 6 genocide studies on the Scholar Commons. 7 Sergeant Myers subsequently spent his 8 post-military career in Kansas, and later chose 9 Florida as his home, where he participated in 10 countless civic organizations and veterans 11 organizations. Sergeant Myers' life is truly a 12 legend in the veteran community and he lived one -- 13 that one would expect from someone of the greatest 14 generation. 15 Finally, Major General Retired Earl Peck, 16 87 years young, who currently lives in Clearwater, 17 Florida. Major General Peck's distinguished 18 36-year career in the United States Air Force began 19 in 1948, and concluded with his retirement in 1985. 20 His service includes 7,000 flight hours as a pilot 21 in aircraft ranging from fighters to bombers, where 22 he earned multiple decorations to include the 23 bronze star and four Legion of Merit awards. 24 Following his retirement in 1985, General Peck 25 served as the first executive director for the

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1 Florida Department of Veterans Affairs where he 2 worked with the Legislature and our leadership in 3 the state at the time to secure funding for the 4 state's first veterans nursing home which was built 5 over in Daytona Beach, Florida. 6 General Peck has continued to advocate for the 7 rights, pay, and benefits for veterans by serving 8 in multiple veterans organizations even in his 9 retirement, and is an active contributor and 10 advocate for Florida's veterans and military 11 communities as a participant in the Military 12 Officers Association of America. 13 At this time we respectfully request approval 14 of the 2015 class of the Florida Veterans Hall of 15 Fame. 16 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a motion on the 17 item? 18 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: So moved. 19 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 20 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Second. 21 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 22 (NO RESPONSE). 23 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 24 carries. 25 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR PRENDERGAST: Thank you,

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1 ladies and gentleman. 2 Agenda Item 3 is the Agency's first draft of 3 its performance measures that we are submitting 4 today for your review and discussion. 5 I can briefly go through each of the 6 performance measures for you if you would like and 7 just talk about a couple of the highlights from 8 them, and we look forward to working with the staff 9 to continue to refine these in the weeks ahead to 10 come up with a final solution. 11 Performance Measure 1 discusses retroactive 12 compensation, and this category refers to a bulk of 13 award given to a veteran for those months once the 14 veteran has submitted a claim to the Department of 15 Veterans Affairs for compensation, and it takes the 16 adjudication of the claim to be processed by the 17 Department, and then the information to be provided 18 back to the veteran and also to our staff at the 19 Department. 20 Year over year results can vary significantly 21 depending on new legislation that passes for 22 disabilities and, as well, some of the class action 23 lawsuits that might get settled. 24 Most recently, in several Cabinet meetings 25 over the past several years, we've talked about the

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1 Nehmer claims which really led to a significant 2 spike in the number of dollars coming back in and 3 the number of veterans coming forward and claiming 4 disabilities for these list of compensations that 5 are eligible for the Agent Orange cases to be 6 adjudicated. 7 More cases of that nature are possible in the 8 future, yet we don't know when they will actually 9 emerge because these cases may take many years, if 10 not decades, to finally be resolved. 11 A couple of cases like that that stick out in 12 our minds each and every day, of course, are the 13 Camp Lejeune cases for the polluted water that was 14 in and around the base there where some of our 15 community of Marines and their family members may 16 have been exposed to pollutants in the drinking 17 water; the burn pits in Iraq and Afghanistan; the 18 oil fires that our veterans experienced during 19 Operation Desert Storm. 20 And some of the things to emerge out of the 21 Fort McClellan community where the groundwater has 22 been contaminated for decades, and they're still 23 working their way through creating a registry to 24 document the things that our veterans who were 25 stationed at Fort McClellan might have been exposed

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1 to over the course of their careers. 2 Performance Measure Number 2 is issue 3 resolution, and we've based our baseline number off 4 of the prior year's standard that we've submitted 5 in our long-range program plan. 6 Issue resolutions are based on services 7 provided to veterans that can result in monthly 8 monetary benefits and as well for them to obtain 9 mandatory quality-of-life enhancement for medical 10 devices: C-Pap machines for some of our veterans 11 with sleep apnea; wheelchairs; hearing aids; and 12 other aids that will help them have an improved 13 quality of life are the type of things that we work 14 on for issue resolution for our veterans. 15 There were 21,946 veterans served for issue 16 resolutions during the past fiscal year, and that 17 also ebbs and flows depending on the veteran's 18 severity of the issues that they present when it 19 comes to some of their disability ratings. 20 Performance Measure Number 3 is the number of 21 veterans served by the Department. Our baseline 22 number is 91,558. And the measure is pulled from 23 our database that captures the number of veterans 24 that come in and visit our offices across the 25 state, of which we have approximately 30 offices

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1 spread throughout the state; and this is their 2 first-time visit whenever they come across the 3 threshold of the door and present to ask for our 4 assistance in filing a claim to have their claim 5 adjudicated by the Department of Veterans Affairs. 6 We term these veterans as "unique veterans" the 7 first time they come across our door. 8 And then turning to Performance Measure 9 Number 4, we also document the number of claims 10 that we actually process on behalf of our veterans. 11 And in turning to Performance Measure 12 Number 5, we roll up a total of what our number of 13 services to veterans are. All of these are 14 important measures, but each year these measures 15 can ebb and flow based upon the severity of the 16 issues that the veterans present for their 17 disability claims and, as well, some of the changes 18 that may occur in legislation that occur each and 19 every year whenever the federal VA presents their 20 package to Congress; and the Congress, of course, 21 approves the budget and some of the policies that 22 go forward with implementation of their budget 23 requirements across the department. 24 Performance Measure Number 6 is the state 25 approving agency. And two years ago the federal VA

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1 changed the programs and the manner in which they 2 measure these programs, and now they've changed it 3 to where we have a compliance requirement where we 4 send our examiners out into the field across the 5 state to do compliance surveys at all of our 6 colleges and universities that the federal VA asks 7 us to go out and survey. 8 This year, for example, we were directed to do 9 120 compliance surveys, and we will meet that 10 target. But embedded in those compliance surveys 11 that we had to do were 11,000 programs that we had 12 to go through and individually approve at 13 institutions that participate in receiving the 14 GI Bill benefits across the state. 15 We have approximately 49,000 veterans and 16 family members or survivors of our veterans who are 17 accessing their earned benefits for education 18 opportunities in the state, and helping us do this 19 program allows those veterans to gain access to 20 nearly $900 million of benefits to go and attend 21 colleges, educational institutions that might have 22 a certification program, or career training 23 opportunities that are out there across our great 24 system of colleges and universities in Florida. 25 Of course there are some ramifications for

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1 noncompliance which could lead to a decrease in 2 federal funding and staffing for our 3 state-approving agency programs, but thus far we've 4 managed to hit the target each and every year and, 5 thankfully, we have not had any natural disasters 6 that have impeded our ability to go out and do it 7 like we did in Hurricane Andrew back in 1992. 8 Short of a manmade or natural disaster or a 9 severe shortfall in our human resources 10 requirements, we should be able to meet that 11 requirement each and every year going forward; but 12 again, it will ebb and flow. 13 And the unofficial number for next year is 14 going to be 140 programs, which will have embedded 15 in the 140 programs probably in the neighborhood of 16 10 to 12,000 additional programs that we'll have to 17 go out as we do our compliance surveys and certify 18 those programs as well. 19 Performance Measure 7 is our homes occupancy 20 rate for those homes that are in operation for more 21 than two years. And as you know, if we keep our 22 homes filled, that allows us to run our State 23 Veterans Nursing Home Program at zero general 24 revenue appropriations; and thus far, over the past 25 several years, we've managed to be able to do that

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1 because we continue to keep our beds filled and it 2 allows us to have the capacity to build up our 3 trust fund, which allows us to do the things -- the 4 operations and maintenance requirements as they 5 manifest themselves, to keep the homes as 6 world-class facilities for our veteran community; 7 and, as well, a place that is inviting for the 8 family members and their residents across the 9 communities who are so critically important to our 10 ability to maintain that interface with the 11 community so that it enhances the quality of life 12 of each and every one of our residents in our six 13 nursing homes and our assisted living facility, our 14 seventh facility up in Lake City. 15 Performance Measure Number 8 is really about 16 the compliance surveys that we encounter each and 17 every year through the U. S. Department of Veterans 18 Affairs, and as well the Agency for Health Care 19 Administration's surveys that come through to 20 assess the quality of care that we provide to our 21 veterans. 22 Finally, turning to Performance Measure 23 Number 9, we've set a pretty high goal there. The 24 Department of Financial Services' goal for 25 invoicing is 95 percent, but we have continually

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1 strived for a 99-percent compliance rating across 2 the Agency for the timely payment of our bills and 3 invoices that are presented to the Agency for 4 services and goods that we accept for our homes 5 program and other operations of the Agency's 6 business. 7 Turning to the subjective leadership 8 assessment, while the Agency is operating at a high 9 level, our resources continue to be a constraint 10 that help us do some things, but we still would 11 like to more adequately align our priorities with 12 our resources to achieve some even greater desired 13 outcomes. 14 Just recently I saw a report that came out 15 from the University of Florida, the alma mater of 16 three of the four folks up here on the dais, where 17 it's talking about the significant increase in 18 population that we're going to see across the 19 Sunshine State over the next five years. 20 Approximately 285,000 residents will move to 21 the Sunshine State each year for the next 22 five years. With that, we project that we will see 23 another hundred plus thousand veterans move into 24 the Sunshine State, along with their family members 25 and their children; and along with that, we will,

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1 of course, see an increased demand for our ability 2 to service those veterans and provide those great 3 services to them. 4 Among the cohort of the younger veterans that 5 are moving here, there is a four-fold increase in 6 the challenges associated with prosecuting their 7 claims and getting their claims through the system. 8 The reasons for that, of course, is that the 9 United States has been at war for more than 10 14 years and we've sent a great many of our men and 11 women into harm's way on multiple combat tours 12 ranging from two to four to eight, in some cases, 13 nine or ten combat tours or rotations into 14 Afghanistan or Iraq. 15 So we would like to continue to press that 16 issue to be able to be adequately resources for 17 today's challenges, but also to meet those 18 challenges that we know are just within the 19 horizon's grasp over the next several years as more 20 population moves to the Sunshine State. 21 So specifically, we're looking for additional 22 staffing to support the mission of the Agency that 23 continues to expand to increase our claims 24 examiners in the field so that we can maintain our 25 high return on investment of $120 to the dollar;

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1 and it also allows us the ability to have more 2 folks in our homes to take care of the increasingly 3 complex challenges that are associated with caring 4 for our Vietnam veteran population who actually see 5 a two-fold increase in the medical issues, compared 6 to the generation of our World War II and 7 Korean War veterans. 8 And then, finally, to support all of the 9 activities of the homes division and the benefits 10 and assistance division, we'd like to enhance the 11 capability of the Agency's headquarters to provide 12 that support and continue to be able to do the 13 research and prepare for those other challenges 14 that are out there. 15 Ensuring that our veterans have access to the 16 full spectrum of earned services and benefits is 17 what our mission set is truly all about; and when 18 deemed medically necessary, ensuring that they get 19 the absolute best care possible within our state 20 veterans nursing homes or get access to that earned 21 healthcare benefit that they so richly deserve at 22 one of our seven federal VA medical centers or at 23 one of our 49 VA outpatient clinics spread 24 throughout the Sunshine State. 25 All of these taken together allow us to be

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1 poised to continue to honor those who've served us 2 and ensure that we're prepared for today, but also 3 postured to meet the challenges of the future for 4 our veteran community as they present in the 5 future. 6 In closing, we'd like to thank you for the 7 opportunity to work with your offices as we strive 8 towards establishing meaningful measurements that 9 showcases our Agency's great work, and we look 10 forward to refining this initial draft moving 11 forward, and will return to you at a later date to 12 seek approval of the final measures for the 13 Agency's performance metrics. 14 Thank you. 15 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you, Mike. 16 Thank you. I don't think we need a vote this. 17 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: I have a quick -- some 18 observations, Governor. 19 The -- based on the bar that you've set for 20 yourself on Measures 1 through 5, you're at 21 158 percent success, 305 percent success, 22 116 percent success, 157 percent success, and 23 153 percent success. If we were the Board of 24 Education, I'd say you need to raise your 25 cut scores.

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1 It seems like you need to stretch your goals 2 if you're starting out at 305 percent success from 3 day one, for example. I know there has been some 4 staff conversations on that. Is that something 5 y'all are anticipating revising before it comes 6 back before us? 7 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR PRENDERGAST: Thank you, 8 Commissioner Putnam. 9 We do look to revise some of these numbers and 10 make some adjustments. But, again, as I alluded to 11 in my initial comments and throughout the 12 narrative, the challenge is that of these first 13 five metrics, we have very little actual control 14 over who presents and crosses the threshold of one 15 of our doors to gain access to services. 16 How we influence that is through our 17 aggressive outreach campaign where we take our 18 claims examiners and our field services folks and 19 attend yellow ribbon events; we go out and we 20 attend conferences that come to the State of 21 Florida or conferences that are statewide 22 conferences and get folks in touch with our claims 23 processes and the array of services that we 24 provide. 25 We can continue to refine this and see if

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1 there are some better benchmarks out there, but if 2 we established it at one level today and then all 3 of the Nehmer claims completely go away, which we 4 are still seeing some of the Nehmer claims that 5 come through, and we present those when they show 6 up in our weekly Cabinet reports that we submit to 7 the Cabinet offices and to the Governor's office. 8 And in our monthly roll-ups, you know, we may 9 have a $600,000 claim that presents this week, and 10 then next week we may only have a $20,000 claim 11 associated with some things that are retroactive 12 compensation type of benefits. 13 The other thing that's problematic with it is 14 that the federal VA, along with the Department of 15 Defense, are working very aggressively to get a 16 benefits delivery discharge program out there that 17 takes care of some of the known issues that are out 18 there, but the unknown issues at the time of 19 separation for that service member are in -- 20 you know, they're incomplete, and we work with the 21 veteran community to see if we can actually capture 22 those issues and then subsequently might have to 23 file an additional claim that's a supplemental 24 claim for additional compensation. 25 It's a complicated matter to exactly arrive at

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1 the best portrayal of what the organization does 2 when it comes to the benefits and assistance 3 delivery, yet year after year our rate of return on 4 investment remains high, and we continue to see 5 opportunities to put claims examiners out in the 6 field to harvest these benefits. 7 And as we've talked about informally in some 8 of our discussions, we still believe that there are 9 unharvested federal VA benefits out there among our 10 community of veterans. 11 We know that we have a very small percentage 12 of our veterans who are actually enrolled in VA 13 healthcare across the enterprise of the VA 14 healthcare clinics and medical centers in the 15 state; and yet, if we can get a veteran enrolled in 16 that healthcare, not only are they getting access 17 to the healthcare that they may need for a good 18 quality of life for the remainder of their lives, 19 but that might actually free up some of our 20 Medicaid dollars that would otherwise be used to 21 service that veteran for a medical necessity that 22 has emerged -- that's truly a consequence of his or 23 her service in the armed forces. 24 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: I mean nobody said it 25 would be easy, I'm just -- but, you know, we just

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1 had a report from OFR who, you know, got a 2 red arrow for moving in the wrong direction because 3 they were two days off on the average length of 4 time to approve a mortgage lender. 5 So there's a big gap in the specificity of the 6 performance measures I think between what we have 7 currently, where you have a 305 percent success 8 rate, and some of the other agencies. 9 So I know that every agency is different. I 10 know that there are things you can control and 11 things you can't control, but that's the purpose of 12 this exercise; and so maybe by modifying your 13 objectives so that we can really get into the 14 things that you can control and then be able to 15 identify trends so that we can either resource 16 appropriately or make the necessary policy 17 adjustments to help you accomplish what you're 18 trying to accomplish for our veterans. 19 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR PRENDERGAST: We'll come 20 back to you, Commissioner Putnam, and see what we 21 can develop over the next few weeks and then 22 present something to you and then see if we can get 23 some additional guidance. 24 We want to be accurate in our portrayal, but 25 by the same token, we want to have some reasonable

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1 degree of flexibility so that if one major issue 2 dries up as a challenge, that we're poised to take 3 on the next challenge that may emerge during a 4 federal legislative cycle where we'll get a whole 5 new series of brand new claims that present, that 6 may have lingered for decades in the case of some 7 of our folks that were exposed to things like the 8 oil fires going back to Desert Shield and 9 Desert Storm back in 1990 and 1991. 10 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Thank you. 11 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR PRENDERGAST: Thank you. 12 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Commissioner, did you want 13 him to stop by and talk to you about each of them? 14 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Those conversations have 15 been ongoing, so I think we're on that. 16 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. All right. Any other 17 comments or questions? 18 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: No. 19 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Thank you, Mike. 20 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR PRENDERGAST: Thank you, 21 Governor. 22 23 24 * * * * 25

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1 BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE 2 INTERNAL IMPROVEMENT TRUST FUND 3 4 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Next I'd like to recognize 5 Jon Steverson with the Department of Environmental 6 Protection. 7 Good morning. 8 SECRETARY STEVERSON: Good morning, 9 Governor Scott, General Bondi, CFO Atwater, and 10 Commissioner Putnam. There are six items on the 11 Board of Trustees' agenda. 12 Item Number 1 is a discussion of the current 13 status of the state-owned property formerly known 14 as the Dozier School for Boys. DEP is functioning 15 as the real estate entity on behalf of the Board of 16 Trustees in this matter. 17 And as the administrative Cabinet arm for the 18 Board of Trustees, this item is being brought under 19 this agenda based on the September 4th letter from 20 the CFO's office to the Department of State 21 requesting an agenda item be submitted to initiate 22 discussion regarding Dozier. 23 At this time, if the Chair so desires, I would 24 like to turn the floor over to the CFO. 25 CFO ATWATER: Governor, thank you. And,

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1 Commissioner, thank you. 2 I just thought it would be a good opportunity 3 for us to have a conversation. A couple of years 4 ago through this process, authorization was 5 provided to USF, and I hope we'll be hearing from 6 Doctor Kimmerle what an extraordinary role they 7 have played in mapping this property to look for, 8 on our behalf, on behalf of the people of Florida, 9 at these sites that we knew were grave sites that 10 were no longer identified, were there more grave 11 sites, was there anything else we could learn? 12 And we've not only extended the access to the 13 property but broadened the scope to look deeper and 14 deeper into this matter. And, again, I think the 15 state will owe you, Doctor Kimmerle, and your team, 16 an incredible debt of gratitude for what y'all have 17 been doing. 18 And, again, all of this to be incredibly 19 important, that would be all very transparent so 20 that everyone would ultimately have the benefit of 21 all of the findings and be able to see and assess 22 what you've been learning at the site and being 23 able to then expose and teach all Floridians. 24 We had a chance to talk by phone about a month 25 and a half ago, I think it was, and Doctor Kimmerle

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1 was suggesting -- and I think it's being more clear 2 for us to consider, Governor, that at a January 3 Cabinet meeting an opportunity to really provide a 4 full report that could be very enlightening on what 5 has been seen, discovered; and I think that's going 6 to be very important and enlightening for all of 7 Florida. 8 What I just saw, and this is just wanting to 9 have the conversation, is that there will be some 10 ongoing matters that need to be addressed, really 11 going to be for -- and not only these families that 12 have been seeking answers; seeking to be the 13 possible reunification with their loved ones, but 14 there are archeological findings, there are things 15 to be archived, the consideration of how they might 16 be displayed for future Floridians, how future 17 Floridians could have access to that research and 18 information, those things just in my observations 19 of being part of -- the privilege of being part of 20 our state government for a number of years is that 21 the State Department has done that extraordinarily 22 well and has the skill sets to begin to think of 23 down the road how we should handle, again, the 24 availability and the access to the information. 25 There's also the matter of what was, again,

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1 one of the important roles, is that 2 Doctor Kimmerle's team would provide remains to 3 north Texas, I believe, and they would provide back 4 a DNA analysis so that we could begin the work on 5 the reunification to families. 6 And in those cases, there's a cost that I 7 think all of us would probably suggest should not 8 be the families' to bear; that reunification -- a 9 funeral, a dignified way to deal with that 10 reunification and the appropriate burial. That 11 ongoing is going to need legislative appropriation 12 and I would hope, you know, favorable consideration 13 from the Legislature. 14 So all I was looking at is -- and anyone may 15 have a different timeline or a different avenue to 16 specifically, as it relates to the historical 17 archiving, displaying artifacts, the taking care of 18 in the most dignified way, the reunification of 19 remains, and the costs of that to be absorbed by 20 the state, all of that consideration I felt might 21 be best addressed by the Department of State, but 22 just wanted to begin the conversation and see where 23 we may go from there. 24 So that was the point of providing the letter 25 to my colleagues and specifically to you,

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1 Mr. Secretary, and would just be interested in us 2 having a discussion. 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Great. 4 All right. Are there some additional -- does 5 anybody have any comments to start? 6 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Well, I know that we 7 have a number of speakers. I want to thank the CFO 8 for continuing this conversation. 9 You know, we all are painfully aware of the 10 dark chapter that Dozier represents in our state's 11 history; and this is our opportunity to bring that 12 to a close and to start a new chapter, a brighter 13 chapter for that -- for the resources on that 14 parcel, for the community of Marianna. This is the 15 gateway to their town, it's the first thing that 16 you see when you come off of the interstate, and 17 what it could mean for Jackson County in terms of 18 the facilities that are there. 19 I mean some of them need to be put on the 20 ground. You've got asbestos issues, you've got 21 long-term neglect issues; but then in the middle, 22 you've also got a giant school that could easily be 23 put back into service for the community, one of 24 the -- a magnificent recreational facility that 25 could easily be rehabbed and put into service for

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1 this community so we don't turn a blind eye to its 2 past. 3 But I think the issue is how we bring the work 4 of Doctor Kimmerle and USF to light and to 5 resolution; what the final resting place is for 6 those remains that can't be reunified; and what the 7 appropriate, dignified way to handle that would be 8 and where; and then the disposition of the surplus 9 property, I think, in a way that will create a 10 different set of impressions and memories for the 11 next generation of Mariannans and Jackson Countians 12 who have needs in their community that very 13 possibly this surplus parcel could help meet. 14 So I think you kind of break it into a couple 15 of categories. We've got, you know, how we handle 16 the remains that have not yet been claimed by 17 family, and what the appropriate thing to do for 18 the state is; and then what we do with the land 19 itself and how and what that process looks like 20 because, obviously, there are some issues with it, 21 particularly asbestos, but not across the board. 22 I mean one of the things I learned on my visit 23 was that there really are some things that could be 24 not just salvaged but fairly quickly brought up to 25 code and utilized in a meaningful, positive way

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1 that will write a new chapter for this. 2 So I look forward to hearing the speakers. I 3 know that this is a highly emotionally charged 4 issue because of its past, but I think that because 5 of the willingness of this Cabinet to keep asking 6 the right questions and keep seeking the answers, 7 we're in a position to have some resolution to it 8 and open up the discussion about what we do next, 9 and I think that that's an important part of the 10 healing. 11 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Attorney General? 12 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Thank you. 13 And thank you, Commissioner, for putting that 14 so eloquently. And thank you, CFO, for sending the 15 letter. 16 Have you been to Dozier yet? 17 CFO ATWATER: Yes. 18 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Have you seen it? 19 Yes, as to the asbestos, it's ridden with 20 asbestos. And, you know, Secretary Steverson, 21 of course, is acting basically as our realtor in 22 this matter, and ultimately is going to advise us 23 as to what to do with that land. We're not there 24 yet. 25 And as you know, I've been actively involved

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1 since 2013 meeting with people from the county who, 2 of course, want to see -- it's a beautiful, 3 thriving county now with many positive, beautiful 4 things as part of it; but also with the 5 surviving -- many surviving victims of Dozier, many 6 family members of those who have lost their lives 7 at Dozier. 8 I've been very active with Doctor Kimmerle, 9 and thanks again to all of her great, great work; 10 and Judy Genshaft at University of South Florida 11 and the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office. We 12 could not have done this without their technology; 13 however, right now -- and we know this isn't on for 14 an action item, but we know right now 15 Doctor Kimmerle's work is not finished. 16 I think in the amount of time she has done 17 incredible things. We never thought she could do 18 what she has done as fast as she has with such 19 great results, and she has found remains, and I've 20 been there for family members of those who lost 21 their lives, I mean children, little boys. 22 So we still have more work to do. I believe 23 that her results will be complete by January, as 24 you said; I've spoken to her multiple times. 25 And, Secretary Detzner, thank you for being

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1 involved and being a team player with us. I think 2 this is going to take though multiple agencies. I 3 think we need to bring in probably DJJ, all 4 agencies, and not just put this on the shoulders of 5 Secretary -- our Secretary of State. 6 I frankly want to stay actively involved. I 7 have -- not to speak for this Cabinet, but I 8 believe statements by all of us that we would. So 9 perhaps at some point we may want to form a working 10 group to look at this and then advise us with 11 multiple agencies involved and -- 12 CFO ATWATER: Governor, might I -- 13 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Sure. 14 Are you finished. 15 CFO ATWATER: Oh, yeah. 16 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: And perhaps, 17 you know, what Secretary Steverson and his 18 General Counsel have to say about that as well. 19 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Are you finished? 20 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Yes. 21 GOVERNOR SCOTT: CFO? 22 CFO ATWATER: I think all of the comments I 23 find right on target. And, General, I find those 24 that you just mentioned, I think it's going to take 25 a broad, as you just said -- and your participation

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1 and what you've done has been extraordinary. I 2 know it's been incredibly comforting for those 3 families and the leadership that you've been 4 providing on this. 5 The letter was very specific, that this part 6 of the discussion I was hoping as -- we would have 7 was not about property, not about investigations, 8 but to just quote from it: The issues involving 9 the preservation of historical resources and 10 records, archives, monuments is something we know 11 is coming; and those items, this is my point, is 12 where are those skill sets best to address those 13 matters? 14 And, again, just as an idea -- and as you 15 said, General, not even meant to be an agenda item 16 for action, just how could we help advance those so 17 that the expectation that we are showing the 18 public, these resources and records and archives 19 are going to be available to you and we're going to 20 discuss how they should be appropriately displayed 21 and available; this story is not going to be swept 22 under a rug; and how can we best at this time begin 23 to capture that in partnership with where 24 Doctor Kimmerle may be. 25 So if today is premature, I'm fine with that,

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1 but I'm not -- this letter was not about 2 investigations for dispensing of property. I tried 3 to narrow it, because I think as Doctor Kimmerle 4 concludes the on-site portion, there's going to be 5 expectations: Where is the findings? Where is 6 this information being provided? Is the state 7 taking ownership of telling the story? And that's 8 what I just wanted to have narrowed this 9 conversation to. 10 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: And, CFO, I think 11 that's an excellent idea. And, Secretary of 12 State Detzner, thank you for getting involved in 13 that aspect. 14 We all know it is so incredibly complex and 15 it's all intertwined, and that's the issue now. I 16 think we have to wait for Doctor Kimmerle's final 17 report, as well as FDLE and what they're looking at 18 regarding all of this. I don't think we can 19 compartmentalize it, and I don't think that's what 20 you're suggesting. 21 I think you're suggesting that we wrap the 22 Secretary of State in, which I think would be a 23 great idea to work in partnership with all of our 24 other agencies on this matter. 25 CFO ATWATER: I think that's it. I think that

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1 that's -- again, I know I have no authority to 2 direct the Secretary of State. 3 No one had access to the property until it was 4 authorized for someone to have access to the 5 property. So, Governor, I'll just -- I think we've 6 all had a chance to cover it. 7 I just -- I do believe it's an important 8 moment, that we're getting close to being -- to 9 concluding activities on the site; that I believe 10 that we should be preparing ourselves for the 11 receipt of certain information; documentation that 12 should also, by the way, be kept in however the 13 University will be helping tell the story in its 14 own right, with its own professionals. 15 But I do believe that there needs to be a time 16 when the state embraces what has been found and 17 begins to think: How will we be holding and 18 communicating and making this available to the 19 public. And the frequency with which those -- the 20 decisions will need to be made by the skill sets 21 that have made them in the past I think would be 22 valuable for us as a body. 23 Again, Governor, I know that's not mine to 24 direct. I just offer it conceptually as an idea. 25 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you.

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1 All right. We have some speakers. 2 SECRETARY STEVERSON: Governor, we do have 3 some public speakers, but I didn't know if it would 4 be of any benefit, especially considering the 5 General's questions, if y'all were to hear from any 6 of the other agencies or Doctor Kimmerle, those who 7 are present; or would you just prefer to move 8 directly to the public speakers? 9 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Why don't we get started with 10 the public speakers? 11 SECRETARY STEVERSON: Okay. Our first public 12 speaker is Mr. Gary Rice. 13 MR. RICE: Thank you. Governor Scott, 14 Attorney General Pam Bondi, Chief Financial Officer 15 Jeff Atwater, and Commissioner Putnam, and 16 Secretary, my name is Gary Rice. 17 I'm an Okeechobee Whitehouse Boy. I'm sure 18 you're familiar with that term. And this is my 19 first opportunity to thank you all for your 20 service. I appreciate you lending an ear and 21 giving permission for Ms. Kimmerle to go on the 22 grounds and find the facts as they present 23 themselves. 24 And I understand it's a big ship, Florida, my 25 home state, I love it dearly. And I understand

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1 that there's a situation here, and my purpose today 2 is to implore you to consider the impact of your 3 decisions concerning the now closed Dozier School 4 for Boys at Marianna. 5 Most are unaware of the existence of a mirror 6 school called Okeechobee School for Boys in 7 Okeechobee, Florida. The same administrators from 8 Dozier were sent to Okeechobee to start that arena 9 and to train those that worked there, and they 10 continued their atrocities in Okeechobee that were 11 committed at Dozier. 12 The number of bodies found at Dozier exceeded 13 the actual count that was presented by FDLE by 14 approximately 20 bodies. I find it a true 15 possibility that with no burial grounds in 16 Okeechobee, that those bodies may have been 17 transported. 18 I worked in the kitchen in Okeechobee, and if 19 you ate, I fed you. And I saw people that were 20 there one day and gone the next, and I'm not saying 21 that it was a necessarily negative or demise that 22 they found, but I think it's very important that we 23 consider the distinct possibility that there were 24 boys that were -- that died in Okeechobee and were 25 transported to Marianna, and that may be a part of

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1 those that were found and unaccounted for. 2 It's not my purpose to burden Florida any more 3 than it's already there, it's just my idea today to 4 inform Florida that the decisions that you make 5 concerning Dozier affects those families from 6 Okeechobee. 7 I found recently that -- I was told for years 8 by the DJJ that my records had been destroyed. I 9 have evidence in my possession that proves 10 otherwise, and this was backed by Ms. Golding, who 11 works in the archives department, and I'd be 12 willing to share that with you sometime if you so 13 desire. 14 And I'd like to close with, I know it's a 15 terrible decision. I couldn't possibly make it, 16 and I was one that was tortured. And I forgive 17 those men, I forgive Florida. I do not hold you 18 responsible for what men did to me 50 years ago. 19 I do implore you to make the decision to make 20 this right and to stop the public perception around 21 the world -- Saudi Arabia is pointing to Florida 22 and the Whitehouse Boys and Dozier as an example of 23 America's hypocrisy when stating that their human 24 rights record could stand a little improvement, to 25 say the least.

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1 And I think that in your decisionmaking, if 2 you could possibly find a corner of that to allow 3 one of the Whitehouse Boys, or maybe two, to help 4 have some real input and to impact that decision, I 5 would really appreciate it. 6 Thank you so much. 7 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you very much. Thanks 8 for being here. 9 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: May I say something, 10 Governor? 11 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Sure. 12 Attorney General? 13 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: I am so sorry, sir, 14 for what you went through. Thank you for being 15 here. 16 MR. RICE: Thank you. 17 SECRETARY STEVERSON: Next we have 18 Mr. Charles Fudge. 19 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Good morning. 20 MR. FUDGE: Good morning. Governor Scott, 21 Attorney Bondi, Chief Atwater, and 22 Commissioner Putnam. 23 I'm one of four boys that was sent to the 24 Florida School for Boys at -- in 1960 and '61, it 25 was FSB, not the Dozier School. And all of the

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1 boys that died there didn't plan on that when they 2 were sent there, they did not plan on being 3 brutally beaten. And I attribute one of my 4 brother's beatings -- there are still three of us 5 alive that attended the school, and one of them at 6 24 took his own life. 7 There is a cemetery on the white side. We 8 were not desegregated in '60 and '61. I know there 9 was a cemetery there, my brother knows the cemetery 10 was there. Those boys need to be found. There was 11 32, in 1961, 32 grave markers. 12 I had gone with Doctor Kimmerle last year in 13 an attempt to point out where the graveyard was, 14 and they told me this morning that they had done 15 some penetrating radar. But I had called several 16 times after the initial visit there after 50 some 17 years, and my memory wasn't what it was. 18 But recollecting where one of the buildings 19 were and there's a fence on the, I guess, east side 20 of that building, it's called Pierce Hall. Pierce 21 Hall is a big building now. Back then it was just 22 a little two-story building that housed maybe 10, 23 15 people. The one they call Pierce Hall now is 24 much bigger. 25 There was a graveyard -- as the road went up

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1 there, there was a graveyard on the right-hand side 2 of that road that went to Pierce Hall. That is so 3 grown up from the time I was there, unless they 4 mowed that down and did the penetrating radar 5 beyond the fences, they would never find those 6 bodies, but we know there are bodies on the 7 white side. 8 I would ask that nothing ever be done with 9 that property other than maybe a state park or a 10 memorial to all of the kids that died there. 11 Again, I would like all of the boys that 12 remembers where the white cemetery was there, when 13 Doctor Kimmerle might go back up there, that they 14 all be invited to point out where they felt that it 15 is. You know, there's so many unanswered things 16 like the child that Doctor Kimmerle had the remains 17 with a double aught buckshot shell in the casket. 18 In Pennsylvania, where a body was supposedly 19 shipped, and when they dug it up, it was empty and 20 full of wood and stuff. 21 Just so many things that are unanswered that, 22 you know, I hope in my lifetime I don't just see it 23 brushed under the rug. And I appreciate the 24 Chief Atwater's desire and Attorney Bondi's desire 25 and you, Governor Scott, to continue this. And

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1 thank you all also, Commissioner Putnam. 2 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Thank you. 3 MR. FUDGE: Thank you very much. 4 GOVERNOR SCOTT: And I'm sorry it happened to 5 you and to your family. 6 SECRETARY STEVERSON: Our last specifically 7 requested speaker is Mr. Dale Landry. 8 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Good morning. 9 MR. LANDRY: Good morning, Governor, Madam 10 Attorney General, my CFO, and Commissioner Putnam. 11 On behalf of Adora Obi Nweze and the Florida 12 State Conference of the NAACP, greetings. You guys 13 need to be commended, and you too, ma'am. You 14 truly need to be commended because I remember how 15 this road started and the difficulty and the big 16 fight. 17 And I want to personally thank you on behalf 18 of the Florida State Conference and many other 19 people that we represent and the folks that we've 20 had to work with, both individually as well as 21 collectively; because individually I've seen y'all 22 do some great things, some champion things. It 23 makes me proud that you are my Cabinet. 24 One of the things -- and I heard of several 25 conversations because let me go ahead and share

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1 with you. Even though we're talking about what 2 we're going to do with it in the future, I want to 3 thank everybody for slowing that wagon down about 4 tomorrow until we finish yesterday and today. 5 A couple of points that I do need to make -- 6 let you be aware of, and I don't know if y'all have 7 got such a thing called -- now let me be clear, I 8 know y'all don't have no slush fund, so let me be 9 clear, I know better than that -- but I'm hoping 10 that there may be some emergency funds somewhere, 11 and it's important. 12 I recently saw something -- I'm quite sure you 13 all are not aware, and I know that personally 14 because I know based on what you've done, you're 15 not aware of some things that are going on. 16 Right now we do have some families that have 17 called for their bodies to be given to them. Many 18 of them had to go out and raise money to help bury 19 those remains. I know that was never your intent. 20 Florida did that to those children, Florida needs 21 to pay for their re-internment. 22 Hopefully, until we can legislate something, 23 we can move some funds aside. If it's no more than 24 $5,000 to re-intern a body, that will help pay for 25 the body transport, whatever the family wants to

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1 use to re-intern the body; and then get there to do 2 a service; and then be able to bury them. 3 So I'm going to ask that you all give some 4 consideration that emergency -- until legislation 5 can be moved, some funds can be set aside so 6 families don't have to worry about that, because I 7 was just talking with the -- Russell Myer, and he 8 was telling me they had to raise another 360 9 something dollars, and that's sad that we had to go 10 out publicly and ask the public and ask them to 11 privately come in and do that. 12 So I want to commend you, brother, I know 13 we've had this conversation; I know we have to have 14 a process, but I wanted to put that on the table. 15 And I'm going to close real fast because I 16 know we've got a lot to do. I've got some ideas 17 too from the NAACP purpose because I think one of 18 the things that I feel very strongly about -- and 19 I'm a very spiritual person, and I want to, again, 20 commend you because, yes, Madam Attorney General, 21 the CFO did go out on the land because we had the 22 privilege of -- he honored me by putting up with me 23 for half a day or a full day walking around and 24 pointing at things in this, so I want to commend 25 him and thank him.

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1 And I know you have been there too, ma'am; and 2 as well as you, Commissioner; and quite so you 3 also, Governor. 4 But the one thing I would ask you, as we 5 relook at what we're going to do -- I'm a firm 6 believer there are spirits walking that land, 7 spirits of those that were wrongfully killed. And 8 to just -- you've got to remember and, again -- and 9 Lord knows, we've got to thank Doctor Kimmerle, we 10 must, that -- you know, many of y'all have never 11 been up there to Marianna back up in those woods in 12 the middle of the summer. 13 As my son said at Ft. Knox when he went to 14 basic training and called me back -- well, not 15 basic, but training, he said: Daddy, do you know 16 they've got three kinds of flies? Well, you've got 17 all -- every kind of creature that's in our 18 northwest Florida up there. And what her and those 19 students went through on that site reminded me of 20 my days in the Army and some of my worst days at 21 Ft. Poke, Louisiana. But I share with you that 22 they need to be, truly be commended. 23 And last but least, we need to look at how we 24 may repurpose that land, not resell it, repurpose 25 it to do something good for Florida's kids, for

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1 kids. And there's a lot of things I'm -- 2 individually, since I can't meet with you in a 3 group without there having to be a hearing, I'll 4 come and see each of you individually, to pass on 5 some of my thoughts and ideas. 6 And I think last but least, we need to do a 7 ceremony here. We need to do a ceremony here, for 8 as you wisely called it, Chief, CFO, these are 9 Florida's children. These are Florida's children. 10 We're reclaiming our children, and that is -- this 11 should be a sacred thing. This should be sacred, 12 and it needs to go sacred almost immediately 13 because those remains are remains of Florida's 14 children and a few men. 15 We did not handle this ceremoniously from the 16 beginning. We need to ceremoniously handle this 17 from now on. On that end, I want to, again, say 18 thank you, God bless. 19 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you. 20 SECRETARY STEVERSON: That concludes the 21 public speakers. 22 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Was there anyone 23 else that wanted to speak? 24 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: I spoke to 25 Doctor Kimmerle briefly earlier, and her report

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1 won't be final until January, so I'm not really 2 sure what more can be added today because she's 3 still working on her report. 4 But, again, thank you so much, 5 Doctor Kimmerle. 6 And, CFO, the only reason I asked if you had 7 been out there because, if you look at the 8 pictures, you know the pictures of some of the 9 buildings don't look all that bad, but that house 10 of horrors is dilapidated. 11 And as Commissioner Putnam said, I mean the 12 asbestos and it's -- so Secretary of State, you're 13 going to have a lot in store for you as well 14 dealing with that. 15 Thank you. 16 CFO ATWATER: Governor, may I just say 17 thank you for the opportunity to discuss the item? 18 Everyone has acknowledged Doctor Kimmerle, and I 19 know we're looking forward to the report. 20 And I just, I just -- and I think everybody 21 was engaged that there will be a time, and whenever 22 that soon date may be, that we may begin to really 23 embrace the ownership and the artifacts and 24 findings and the display and memorials that I think 25 we have a responsibility to do, and I'll certainly

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1 accept the wisdom of the Cabinet wherever that may 2 be best charged to perform. 3 Thanks, Governor. 4 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Governor, just so I'm -- 5 just so I understand this correctly. 6 Doctor Kimmerle, your work on site is 7 complete, right, the work that you're -- the work 8 that we will receive at the beginning of the year 9 is the follow-up to the site work, but your work on 10 site has concluded, correct? 11 DOCTOR KIMMERLE: That's correct. We've 12 finished the field work, and right now we're 13 finishing all of the laboratory work and writing it 14 up and waiting for a lot of the DNA testing, and 15 continue to search for additional families to 16 hopefully positively identify about 10 more 17 individuals that we have presumptive IDs for. 18 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: The remains that you 19 found on site are no longer on site, right? All of 20 the remains that you discovered have been relocated 21 from the site of the school; is that correct? 22 DOCTOR KIMMERLE: Currently everything is at 23 USF, that's correct, with the exception of those 24 that have been identified and returned to the 25 families. And I would just say, of the six

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1 identifications we've had, four were to direct 2 siblings; so even though they're quite elderly now, 3 it's brothers and sisters. And I know they're 4 extremely grateful to all of you, as we are, for 5 the opportunity to take on this project and bring 6 this history forward. 7 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: So thank you very much 8 for the work that you've done. 9 So, CFO, your -- as you pointed out, your 10 letter is very specific to the Department of State 11 and their role with historical resources, 12 monuments, archiving the information, and making it 13 available to the public. 14 And then Secretary Steverson I guess has the 15 responsibility of maybe getting input from these 16 interested parties about what the appropriate use 17 of what -- it's a significantly large site that has 18 a lot of different buildings on it of various ages, 19 from things that are falling down to things that 20 really could be rehabbed rather quickly; and as 21 Dale Landry said, put into a good -- a good use, a 22 positive use, salt and light for that community to 23 write a new chapter. 24 And, you know, those are the kinds of things I 25 think we should be exploring because I think the

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1 piece of this that's lost is, you know, this -- it 2 is a hazard in the sense that lots of bad elements 3 are attracted to something of this size with so 4 many nooks and crannies and buildings and 5 everything else. 6 So the state, DJJ specifically with their 7 security responsibilities, the maintenance 8 responsibilities, this is something that, you know, 9 it's not just -- it is sitting there neglecting, 10 but it's costing us a lot of money to mothball it. 11 And so I think that concluding the research 12 component is important; finding the right answer 13 for the final internment of those remains that have 14 not been claimed by the families is very important; 15 and those things we ought to be able to resolve 16 fairly -- fairly quickly; and then moving forward 17 with a plan that involves all these stakeholders 18 about: What does that future look like? What does 19 it look like for the survivors who have very 20 specific ideas about how their experience should be 21 memorialized? 22 And what it means for the fact that you do 23 have this parcel that does have assets on it that 24 could be a force for good in that community, that 25 could be the types of park or recreation facility

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1 or community activity center or things that begins 2 to write a very different future than what that 3 land has seen in the last three generations. 4 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Anybody else? 5 (NO RESPONSE). 6 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Thank you. 7 Thank you, Doctor Kimmerle. 8 Thank you, Jon. So we'll wait for the report 9 that will come out hopefully at the first of the 10 year. 11 At this point, let's take a 15-minute recess. 12 (BRIEF RECESS). 13 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Jon, I think 14 we're on Item 2, please. 15 Go ahead. 16 SECRETARY STEVERSON: Yes, sir. 17 Item 2 is consideration of DEP's proposed 18 quarterly performance accountability and annual 19 reporting measures. The measures are being 20 submitted in accordance with the Cabinet governance 21 guidelines approved at the March 10th, 2015, 22 Cabinet meeting. 23 The first section comprises the objective 24 performance measures containing 11 measures which 25 focus on the Division of State Lands'

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1 responsibilities. I want to briefly discuss a few 2 of these measures. 3 The highest weighted measure is Measure 4 Number 1, percent of land management reviews 5 conducted. This is incredibly important as it is a 6 statutorily driven requirement for the Division to 7 coordinate and conduct reviews to ensure the 8 people's land is being managed in accordance with 9 the approved management plan. We're doing a good 10 job in this area, along with a hundred percent 11 conservation easement compliance in Measure 3. 12 We are successfully negotiating acquisitions 13 shown in Measure 4 to not only acquire preservation 14 recreation lands but to do it in a fiscally 15 responsible way, getting the best deal for the 16 taxpayers of Florida in closing those contracts in 17 an expeditious manner as shown in Measure 5. 18 Measure 7 shows compliance and assistance is a 19 critical part of our functions to ensure that we 20 are addressing upland leases that need extra 21 attention. And the upland instrument process 22 identified in Measure 8 shows how we have made 23 great improvements in ensuring our customers 24 receive service in a timely fashion. 25 Measures 9, 10, and 11 show the inspection

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1 compliance and efficiency of review for submerged 2 lands and instruments, and while there's always 3 room for improvement, we're excited about the 4 measures, the story they tell, and how we can use 5 them to better the Division and the Agency for the 6 benefit of our customers. 7 The next section is the annual reporting 8 measures which extract data from the annual Land 9 Management Uniform Accounting Council report. And 10 that's a mouthful, so if it's okay with you, I'm 11 going to say the LMUAC report; that's how everyone 12 refers to it. 13 This information provides current land 14 management status relating to the top four land 15 managers. This is the Division of Recreation and 16 Parks, Coastal and Aquatic Managed Areas, Florida 17 Forest Service, and the Florida Fish and Wildlife 18 Conservation Commission. 19 The data extracted from the report is specific 20 to the following annual totals broken down by the 21 respective land manager. This is going to include 22 items like economic impact to local communities, 23 visitors, volunteer hours, acres treated for 24 invasive exotics, and acres burned. 25 Great detail regarding these numbers can be

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1 found in the 2014 LMUAC report. The 2015 report is 2 currently being compiled, and the 2015 data and 3 report will be provided in the October 27th Cabinet 4 agenda submittal. 5 At the end of this section, you have the 6 Siting Coordination Office annual measures which 7 report total electric generation capacity under 8 Siting Board oversight in megawatts, then also the 9 total electric transmission under Siting Board 10 oversight in total amp miles. 11 In the final section, you have the subjective 12 leadership assessment. Should the Board accept the 13 previous performance and reporting measures, we 14 will submit recommended revisions to the leadership 15 assessment to tailor the questions to the 16 Department's Cabinet responsibilities. 17 The revised assessment questions and responses 18 will be submitted in the October 27th Cabinet 19 agenda. The Department recommends acceptance of 20 the proposed quarterly performance accountability 21 and annual reporting measures. 22 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Are there any -- 23 is there a motion on the item? 24 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Question. 25 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Go ahead, Commissioner.

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1 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Measure 4 was your 2 average percent of approved of the highest 3 appraised value at which the property was 4 purchased, and you've set an acquisition goal of 5 90 percent. 6 Does that include partnerships? Does that 7 include federal or local or private-sector matches 8 that bring down the state's share? 9 SECRETARY STEVERSON: Governor, if I may 10 respond? 11 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Absolutely. 12 SECRETARY STEVERSON: Yes, sir, Commissioner. 13 My understanding is our goal is 90 percent for all 14 acquisitions. 15 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Not including 16 partnerships. 17 SECRETARY STEVERSON: All acquisitions. I 18 would say that would include partnerships. Every 19 acquisition we make, we're going to strive for that 20 90 percent number of approved value. 21 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: So you've done 22 18 acquisitions, and your average percent of the 23 high appraisal is 87 percent; but when you include 24 partnerships, it's actually 77 percent. So which 25 number would you report, the 87 or the 77?

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1 SECRETARY STEVERSON: I believe we would 2 include all, and overall I think we're sitting at 3 85 percent, Commissioner, but I don't know if 4 Mr. Clark might be able to shed a little more light 5 on that. 6 MR. CLARK: Governor, Attorney General Bondi, 7 CFO Atwater, Commissioner Putnam. 8 Yes, sir. And the numbers you're actually 9 looking at for the 85 percent is only the 10 fourth quarter of fiscal year '14/'15. So we're 11 only including four acquisitions that closed in 12 that time period. But, yes, the total acquisitions 13 would include partnerships. And the goal is to 14 have 90 percent for acquisitions, including 15 partnership dollars. 16 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: So you are backing out 17 the partnership funds from the state's commitment, 18 or you're not? 19 MR. CLARK: We're not. 20 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Okay. So you're not 21 crediting the partnership money in that number? 22 MR. CLARK: No, sir, it's a total purchase 23 amount is 90 percent. That's the goal set forth. 24 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: So then if your goal, 25 which you're now submitting as a performance

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1 measure, which you will be held accountable for, is 2 not to pay more than 90 percent, under what 3 circumstances would you go above that? 4 MR. CLARK: I think in circumstances where the 5 property is at the top of the acquisition list, and 6 we do have partnerships and perhaps a less-than-fee 7 acquisition, it would garner the support from all 8 the stakeholders; but I believe the Secretary made 9 a comment earlier in the year that he would be 10 happy to work with every single office to move that 11 acquisition and have those discussions with the 12 Cabinet. It really depends on the acquisition. 13 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: So do you open 14 negotiations by saying that the state's not 15 prepared to pay more than 90 percent of the highest 16 appraised value? 17 MR. CLARK: No, sir. It's an open-ended 18 willing seller program with active negotiations, 19 and the goal is 90 percent. That's not necessarily 20 a ceiling, that's a goal. 21 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: So the decision to 22 exceed that, the criteria that would go into that 23 decision may include partnerships? 24 MR. CLARK: Yes, sir. 25 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Okay. Thank you.

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1 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Any other 2 questions? 3 CFO ATWATER: Yes, Governor, thank you. 4 Frankly, I don't like it as a measure, and -- 5 because I think there is -- by the way though, I 6 think you've done a very good job of putting it 7 together, so my compliments. 8 I don't mean to just touch on that one 9 uniquely, but it's one that has been raised. I 10 think there's a lot of dynamics that go into -- or 11 a lot of, in conversation, important constituency 12 thought as to whether we're ultimately going to 13 make that acquisition or not, and I appreciate you 14 saying it's just a goal. 15 But I'm really concerned about here it 16 being -- driving the decision making process over 17 all the other considerations, as, very unique 18 parcel, unique opportunity. The combining parcels 19 of neighboring possible -- creating trailways or 20 pathways, et cetera, that could occur from that. 21 So I just would like to say, Governor, you 22 were asking for a motion, and I know that's 23 appropriate; but as with the Veterans Affairs, I 24 might just ask if I could have between now and the 25 next Cabinet meeting to spend more time with the

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1 Department. I think they've done a very good job. 2 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. First off, let me -- I 3 have no problem of not deciding today, but with 4 regard to -- here's my experience in whatever 5 standard you set, 70 percent, 80 percent, 6 90 percent, a hundred percent, whatever standard 7 you set, you know, you're going to get there. 8 So if we want to buy things for 90 percent, 9 that's probably where we're going to end up mostly. 10 If we're going to say we're going to pay a 11 hundred percent, we're going to be at a 12 hundred percent. 13 I believe we ought to be buying lands as 14 inexpensively as we can. This is state taxpayer 15 money, and I think we ought to be trying to get the 16 best price we can. There -- I don't believe we 17 have just one opportunity to buy land, we have lots 18 of different opportunities, and I think we ought to 19 get -- buy the transactions where we can get things 20 at a great price. That's what I would do in my 21 business life, and that's what I think we should do 22 as fiduciaries of the taxpayer. 23 So I like the -- I like having a goal there. 24 I could argue that it could be lower, but I'm fine 25 with 90 percent.

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1 But if we -- if we're -- I think on this, if 2 we're not going to do it, I think we have to have a 3 motion to withdraw, which I'm fine with if we want 4 to do that. 5 So if someone wants to make a motion to 6 withdraw -- 7 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: I don't think we have to 8 have a motion to withdraw. It's no different than 9 FDVA where we're directing the Secretary to 10 continue to work with staff to modify his draft 11 performance measures before they come before us the 12 next time for final approval. 13 GOVERNOR SCOTT: I think it depends on how it 14 got on the calen -- 15 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: That's why I was 16 looking back to staff. Is this on for an action 17 item? 18 MS. SUMPTER: On for acceptance. 19 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: On for acceptance. 20 MS. SUMPTER: Recommended acceptance. 21 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Recommended 22 acceptance. 23 So if we're not recommending, Governor, that 24 we accept it today, do we want to -- I guess the 25 question is, gentlemen, remove that item or just

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1 simply -- 2 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Postpone it? 3 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: -- postpone it where 4 the CFO can meet with Secretary Steverson on it 5 individually and the Commissioner if he needs to, 6 or -- 7 CFO ATWATER: Governor, I -- and by the way 8 also, I completely respect your feedback on the 9 item as well, I do. I completely get that. 10 GOVERNOR SCOTT: And I know, you're trying to 11 get the best deal too. I'm not suggesting -- 12 CFO ATWATER: And I know you weren't 13 suggesting that. Before, when I asked this 14 question, the direction from the podium back to me 15 was: It's -- I have to, that's what my charge is, 16 I have to do it. 17 And in that occasion, the individual seemed a 18 bit surprised at the late breaking news that that 19 was now the number. So I don't want there to be 20 confusion that it's a goal versus -- before it 21 appeared to be it had to be the absolute standard. 22 That was the reaction given to me. 23 But putting that aside, I would appreciate the 24 courtesy, Governor, if we could postpone it and 25 that I could have time -- I think they've done a

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1 very good job, but I would like to have time 2 between now and the next -- 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: So your motion is to postpone 4 it. 5 CFO ATWATER: Motion to postpone or withdraw. 6 GOVERNOR SCOTT: To the next Cabinet meeting? 7 CFO ATWATER: To the next Cabinet meeting, 8 sure. 9 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Second. 10 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Okay. Any 11 comments or objections? 12 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: No, Governor. 13 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. It carries. 14 All right. 15 SECRETARY STEVERSON: All right. Thank you, 16 Governor. 17 Item 3 is consideration of reaffirmation of 18 delegations granted the Department and 19 consideration of deletions and modifications to the 20 delegations. The delegations are being submitted 21 in accordance with the Governor and Cabinet's 22 direction to review the existing Agency delegations 23 of authority and for the Agency to offer any 24 recommended changes. 25 The Department is requesting the deletion of

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1 16 delegations for the following reasons. They 2 are: Either the authorized action has been 3 completed, the authority is obsolete, and/or the 4 authority is duplicative. 5 The Department is also requesting the 6 modification of 14 delegations, mostly to clarify 7 authority; and, in a few cases, to address 8 additional concerns that can be easily addressed by 9 a delegation. 10 One such example can be seen in our request 11 for modification to DSL-6, and this is to allow the 12 Department to approve the sale or lease of filled 13 sovereignty lands and reclaimed lake bottom to the 14 adjacent riparian landowners pursuant to 15 the applicable rules and statutes as long as the 16 price is equal to or exceeding the approved value; 17 the parcels are under five acres and valued at a 18 hundred thousand dollars or less. These parameters 19 are in line with the surplus criteria already 20 established in DSL-6, sub one and two. 21 And that's a brief explanation of our 22 delegations. I'd be happy to get into any other 23 questions the Board may have. 24 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Does anyone have any comments 25 or objections -- or comments first or questions?

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1 (NO RESPONSE). 2 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. Is there a motion on 3 this item? 4 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: So moved. 5 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 6 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Second. 7 GOVERNOR SCOTT: No comments or objections? 8 (NO RESPONSE). 9 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Hearing none, the motion 10 carries. 11 SECRETARY STEVERSON: Thank you, Governor. 12 The next three items will be presented by 13 Jim Karels with the Florida Forest Service. 14 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Governor, one thing 15 before Secretary Steverson leaves the podium. 16 I would just request that with regard to 17 delegations, that the Board have notification when 18 you use that delegation on DSL-6. That's been 19 communicated with staff, but I just wanted to 20 make it -- 21 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Do you have any concern about 22 that? 23 SECRETARY STEVERSON: No, sir, I do not. 24 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. All right. 25 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Thank you.

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1 SECRETARY STEVERSON: Thanks. 2 MR. KARELS: Good morning, again, Governor and 3 Cabinet. I promise this is the last time you'll -- 4 GOVERNOR SCOTT: It's afternoon now, Jim. 5 We've been here for a while. 6 MR. KARELS: Good afternoon. 7 GOVERNOR SCOTT: So long, it's afternoon. 8 MR. KARELS: It did start with morning. 9 Today I've got two rural and family easements 10 and a Babcock Ranch designation. 11 So Item Number 4 will be the first of my items 12 is the Kilbee Ranch, 1,286-acre ranch located in 13 Seminole County and bordered on the east and south 14 by Little Big Econ State Forest. The ranch is 15 ranked in Tier 1 of the 2014 Rural and Family Lands 16 Program. 17 We're requesting the Trustees' approval for, 18 one, an option agreement to acquire a perpetual 19 conservation easement over the lands lying within 20 Kilbee Ranch; two, a cooperative agreement with the 21 United States Department of Agriculture, NRCS; and, 22 three, designation of FDACS, Florida Forest 23 Service, as the monitoring agency. 24 The total consideration price for this 25 easement is $4,095,000. $1 million of the

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1 acquisition costs will be provided through the Farm 2 and Ranch Lands Protection Program grant from the 3 Natural Resource Conservation Service, NRCS. The 4 grant reduces the Trustees' price to $3,095,000. 5 The fee value of this tract under appraisal is 6 $6,690,000. So the Trustees' conservation easement 7 cost is 46 percent of the fee value. 8 The Kilbee Ranch represents one of the last 9 ranches of its size in Seminole County and has been 10 in family ownership and operated since the 1920s. 11 The owners have received numerous offers to develop 12 this property with their hope and intent to keep 13 the ranch in family management as a working ranch. 14 The ranch is home to an active cattle 15 operation of approximately 350 head, as well as 16 silviculture and hay operations, with about 17 50 percent of the property being maintained in 18 improved pasture. As I mentioned, it borders on 19 Little Big Econ State Forest and lies in close 20 proximity to both the St. Johns and the 21 Econlockhatchee Rivers. 22 The biodiversity supports numerous species 23 such as gopher tortoise, sand hill crane, and 24 various ferns. Deer, turkey, and the Florida 25 black bear are known to inhabit the ranch. Nearly

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1 all of the property lies within the secondary 2 black bear range. 3 There are no known encumbrances on the 4 property that adversely affect marketability or the 5 ability to enforce the rights granted under the 6 agreement. 7 The family here today, Diane Gaff and 8 Sandra Hicks, are in the audience. Raise your 9 hands. 10 (COMPLIED). 11 MR. KARELS: And Representative Everett Dykes 12 is here to answer any questions that the Cabinet 13 may have. 14 Eric Draper, representing the Audubon Society, 15 would like to briefly speak in support. 16 Eric. 17 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Jim, before you get gone, 18 what's the total price with all the partners as a 19 percentage of the appraisal? 20 MR. KARELS: If you look at it, including the 21 partners -- we discussed both ways -- including the 22 partners, it's 69 percent of the lowest appraisal. 23 If you look at it separate from the partner, it's 24 86 percent of the high, 91 percent of the low 25 appraisal.

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1 MR. DRAPER: Thank you, Jim. 2 Governor and members of the Cabinet, 3 Eric Draper, Audubon Florida, and I'm here to 4 encourage your favorable support of both the 5 Kilbee Ranch Conservation Easement; as well as the 6 one that follows it on the agenda, the J. B. Ranch. 7 It's hard to believe that there's a ranch like 8 this still in Seminole County. If you see -- the 9 development is happening so fast in 10 Seminole County. We see landowners who have done a 11 very, very good job of essentially taking care of 12 wildlife habitat and protecting the St. Johns and 13 Econlockhatchee River. This is a very good 14 approach to making sure that that particular land 15 use continues in Seminole County on a permanent 16 basis, and I encourage you to support that. 17 The second item -- I don't want to get up here 18 a second time and talk about J. B. Ranch -- this is 19 a ranch that I've actually been on, spent some time 20 out there. It is right in the heart of the 21 panther habitat and territory. 22 And, Governor Scott, as you know, when you've 23 announced your budget last year, you put a priority 24 on protecting land for Florida panthers. They've 25 done a great job of protecting this particular

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1 ranch, and this is a really good way to work with 2 this particular landowner to make sure that their 3 family enterprise, which is ranching, continues by 4 taking one of the most environmentally important 5 parts of the ranch and conveying the underlying 6 development rights under this Rural and Family 7 Lands Protection Act program. 8 I just want to put in a plug for the program. 9 They're during a really good job with the Rural and 10 Family Lands Protection Act. It's a great way to 11 use a different type of easement approach other 12 than a DEP conservation easement, one that allows 13 the continued agricultural operations on the 14 property. It's a good and smart way to do things 15 and brings the overall price down, a good return on 16 our investment. 17 Thank you very much. 18 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. Any questions? 19 (NO RESPONSE). 20 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. I think -- first 21 off, I think the Rural Lands is a great program for 22 the state. 23 I still think we have to get, continue -- and 24 I know, Jim, you worked hard, everybody has worked 25 hard to get good prices. I just think we have to

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1 get a better price. So I'm going to make a motion 2 to deny the item at this price. 3 Is there a second? 4 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: I'll second it. 5 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 6 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: I object. 7 CFO ATWATER: I would object. 8 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Is there any 9 other motion? 10 CFO ATWATER: I would make a motion that we 11 approve the item as presented. 12 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Second. 13 GOVERNOR SCOTT: I oppose. 14 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: I'll oppose. 15 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. Thank you. 16 It's denied. 17 MR. KARELS: Okay. Item Number 2. 18 Item Number 2 is a 1,617.46-acre conservation 19 easement with J. B. Ranch. J. B. Ranch is a 20 9,303-acre working cattle ranch located in 21 Collier County sharing the southern border with 22 Big Cypress National Preserve. J. B. Ranch is 23 ranked in Tier 1 of the 2014 approved Rural and 24 Family Lands Acquisition List. 25 We are requesting the Trustees' approval for,

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1 one, the option agreement to acquire a perpetual 2 conservation easement over 1,617.46 acres of 3 J. B. Ranch; a cooperative agreement with the 4 United States Department of Agriculture Natural 5 Resource Conservation Service; and three, 6 designation of FDACS FFS as the monitoring agency. 7 Total consideration for this easement is 8 $3,750,000. 1.5 million of the acquisition cost 9 will be provided through the Farm and Ranch Land 10 Protection Program grant from the Natural Resource 11 Conservation Service. NRCS grant reduces the 12 Trustees' purchase price to $2,250,000. 13 The fee value of the tract is 6.47 million. 14 Trustees' conservation easement cost is 35 percent 15 of the fee value. This is 90 percent of the low 16 value. 17 If approved, this will be the 20th -- this 18 will be the 19th perpetual conservation easement 19 proposed for acquisition. J. B. Ranch is 20 9,303 acres, as I said, working ranch lying in the 21 northern border of the Big Cypress National 22 Preserve is in close proximity to many public 23 lands. Now this would be the first Rural and 24 Family Lands easement in that extreme southwest 25 Florida area.

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1 The ranch was founded in the 1940s and is 2 under the third generation of management as a 3 cow/calf operation. Other agricultural activities 4 include timber, beekeeping, and row cropping. Most 5 of the eastern third of the property is comprised 6 of intact natural communities. 7 Many rare species are documented on the 8 property, including two federally threatened 9 crested caracara and the wood stock, as well as 10 state threatened Florida sand hill crane. 11 According to FWC, the property is wholly within the 12 Florida black bear and the Florida panther range. 13 Family -- Ernie Cox is the family 14 representative here today if there's any questions. 15 And Charles Patterson representing a 1000 Friends 16 of Florida would like to speak in support. 17 Charles? 18 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Good afternoon. 19 MR. PATTERSON: Governor and Trustees, 20 thank you for the opportunity to be here. 21 We certainly want to support this good 22 proposal. We congratulate Commissioner Putnam and 23 his staff for putting together a comprehensive 24 package. We think this is an excellent alternative 25 to the fee-simple challenges that we face around

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1 the state. It allows a working ranch to exist and 2 have conservation at the same time. We fully 3 support that, and also the earlier one that you 4 considered. 5 Thank you. 6 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Any questions or 7 comments? 8 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Governor, I have some 9 comments. 10 Both this item and the previous item are at 11 86 percent of the higher appraisal, which is 12 four percent less than the standard that we just 13 discussed that DEP was presenting for us to hold 14 them accountable for. That does not include the 15 partnerships. With the partnerships, it's 16 51 percent of the higher appraisal. 17 But if you calculate it the way that DEP just 18 told us that they would prefer to calculate it, 19 that launched the other conversation that we had, 20 both would have been substantially less than the 21 measure that DEP themselves have set as a goal. 22 Both of these represent opportunities not only 23 to protect large mammal populations, like bear in 24 the case of Kilbee, and panther in the case of 25 J. B. Ranch, they are a good use of conservation

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1 dollars; an expression of our support of 2 Amendment 1; and a wise investment in the economy. 3 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Governor, I would ask 4 to reconsider that item. I think it was the way it 5 was presented to us, no offense. But that's what I 6 was just told, when we look at the federal money 7 and the 51 percent, I would ask to reconsider that, 8 Governor, at this time. 9 GOVERNOR SCOTT: So let's go back. Jim, on 10 the prior item, my understanding is you said it was 11 91 percent of the lowest of the appraisal. 12 MR. KARELS: And 86 percent of the highest. 13 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Right. 14 MR. KARELS: And that's -- 15 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Right. 16 MR. KARELS: -- that's not counting -- that's 17 with the federal money in there. That's looking at 18 appraised value and the total price. 19 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. So the first 20 transaction when you take -- is 91 percent of the 21 lowest of the appraisals, okay; and the second 22 transaction is what percentage? 23 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Ninety. 24 GOVERNOR SCOTT: It's 90, right? 25 MR. KARELS: If you take out -- if you go with

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1 the federal partner, is that what you're saying? 2 GOVERNOR SCOTT: No. 3 MR. KARELS: Then it goes down -- 4 GOVERNOR SCOTT: No, leaving the federal 5 partner in, what's the percentage? 6 MR. KARELS: On the highest appraisal? 7 GOVERNOR SCOTT: On the lowest. So the first 8 transaction with the federal partners' money in, 9 everybody's money in -- 10 MR. KARELS: Yes. 11 GOVERNOR SCOTT: -- it's a purchase price of 12 9-- it would be a purchase price of 91 percent of 13 the lowest of the appraisals, right? 14 MR. KARELS: That's correct, 91 percent of the 15 lowest. 16 GOVERNOR SCOTT: And the second one was 90. 17 MR. KARELS: And the second, yes, J. B. Ranch, 18 lowest was 90. 19 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. All right. So the 20 first transaction is 91 percent when you include 21 everybody's money in of the lowest of the 22 appraisal, and the second one is 90? 23 MR. KARELS: That's correct. 24 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. All right. So that's 25 what -- that was what we voted on.

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1 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: And can I ask a 2 question, Governor? 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Sure. 4 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Where does the 5 86 percent come in? Commissioner Putnam, could 6 you -- could the Commissioner explain that again, 7 Governor? Because that's what my staff was just 8 explaining to me. 9 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: So for purchases of this 10 size, we get two appraisals. The standard that DEP 11 just presented us that we talked about is that they 12 are aiming for 90 percent or less of the high 13 appraisal, so you want to pay between -- somewhere 14 between the low and the high, and the DEP 15 performance measure would be 90 percent of the 16 highest appraisal. 17 What the Governor is expressing, I think, is a 18 desire to pay 90 percent of the low appraisal. So 19 if someone wants to buy your house, you get it 20 appraised -- 21 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Right. 22 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: -- they want to pay you 23 less than the lowest appraisal for it. And I 24 personally think that we're not going to be able to 25 accomplish all the things that we want to

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1 accomplish if we're going to pay people less money 2 than the lowest appraisal that is gotten for it. 3 So I'm very comfortable bringing to this 4 Cabinet a recommendation that we make these 5 purchases at 86 percent of the higher appraisal, 6 which is falling between the two appraisals that 7 we've paid to have on these parcels, before we even 8 back out the federal partnership, which is 9 another -- you know, certainly a worthwhile 10 consideration. 11 But both of these items are 86 percent of the 12 higher appraisals, so they're falling in between 13 the two appraisals that were done on these parcels. 14 GOVERNOR SCOTT: My view is, whatever standard 15 we're going to set, we don't -- if we don't live up 16 to some standard, we're just going to keep paying 17 more and more money. So I'm okay with 90 percent 18 of the lowest of the appraisals, and that's as high 19 as I'll go. 20 So there's a -- but let's follow the protocol 21 here. The Commissioner has made a motion. The 22 Commissioner -- and so what -- and your motion is, 23 I don't know if you can do it this way, but it 24 doesn't really matter. 25 Let's do it your way where you said you want

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1 to go back and ask for both of them, even though we 2 have already turned down the first one. 3 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: No, that was the 4 Attorney General's motion that we reconsider the 5 motion. 6 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: I had asked to 7 reconsider the Kilbee Ranch, Governor. 8 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Well, let's finish yours 9 first, then let's do it in the right order. I 10 don't recall your motion. 11 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: I don't have a motion on 12 the floor. 13 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Oh, you don't, okay. What's 14 your motion? 15 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: I would ask to 16 reconsider Number 4, Kilbee Ranch. 17 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. So that was the 18 earlier one? 19 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Yes, Governor, we 20 just voted on it. 21 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. So let's go and 22 do that. So I made a motion that it would be 23 denied. So let's -- 24 Is there a second? 25 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: In this particular

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1 one, Governor, I'm going to change my vote and vote 2 for it. I, in principle, completely agree with 3 what you're saying. I know my staff has put a lot 4 of work into this particular land buy -- sale as 5 well, so I would change my vote on this particular 6 one. But I agree with you fully in principle. 7 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. So then now there 8 needs to be if -- then there needs to be a motion 9 if you want to approve it. 10 CFO ATWATER: I would motion that the 11 Kilbee Ranch item be approved as presented. 12 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. Is there a second? 13 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Second. 14 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. All in favor? 15 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Aye. 16 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Aye. 17 CFO ATWATER: Aye. 18 GOVERNOR SCOTT: And I oppose. 19 Now let's go to the second one now. Is there 20 a motion on the second piece? 21 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: I move that we accept 22 the staff's recommendation to purchase a 23 conservation easement on J. B. Ranch. 24 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Is there a 25 second?

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1 CFO ATWATER: Second. 2 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All in favor? 3 (AFFIRMATIVE INDICATIONS). 4 GOVERNOR SCOTT: We're all in favor. 5 MR. KARELS: Okay. Item Number 6, 6 Babcock Ranch Preserve designation. Consideration 7 for the Florida Department of Agriculture and 8 Consumer Services, FDACS, to be authorized as the 9 designated agent of the Board of Trustees for the 10 purposes outlined in Section 259.1053(5)(d) (sic) 11 of the Florida Statutes relating to the management 12 and operation of Babcock Ranch Preserve. 13 Section 259.053, this statute grants the Board 14 of Trustees or its designated agent, and that's 15 what it says in the statute, the authority to 16 negotiate and enter into agreements, leases, 17 contracts, and other arrangements with any person, 18 firm, association, or organization, corporation, or 19 governmental entity to operate this ranch. 20 Before FDACS proceeds in fulfilling these 21 statutory duties and responsibilities on behalf of 22 the Board of Trustees under Section 259.053 of the 23 Florida Statutes, the Board must first authorize 24 FDACS as its designated agent. 25 And if you'd like, I can give you a brief

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1 background history and where we are right now with 2 Babcock, it's up to you. 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: I don't need any more. Does 4 anybody else have any questions? 5 (NO RESPONSE). 6 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. Is there a motion on 7 the item? 8 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: So move. 9 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 10 CFO ATWATER: Second. 11 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 12 (NO RESPONSE). 13 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 14 carries. 15 SECRETARY STEVERSON: Thank you. 16 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Anything else, Jon? 17 SECRETARY STEVERSON: No. 18 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Thank you. 19 Thanks, Jim. 20 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Governor, if I could 21 just make a statement. 22 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Sure. 23 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Again, I do agree 24 completely with what you've said in principle. I 25 think in the past though -- I'm trying to stay

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1 consistent with what we have done, but I think 2 moving forward it would be very good to look at 3 those items. 4 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Thanks. 5 6 7 * * * * 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

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1 DIVISION OF BOND FINANCE 2 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Next I'd like to 4 recognize Ben Watkins with the Division of 5 Bond Finance. 6 DIRECTOR WATKINS: Good morning, Governor, 7 Cabinet members. 8 Item 1 is approval of the minutes of the 9 August 5th meeting. 10 CFO ATWATER: So moved. 11 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Second. 12 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Second. 13 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 14 (NO RESPONSE). 15 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 16 carries. 17 DIRECTOR WATKINS: Item 2 is a report back to 18 you from our conversation in St. Augustine 19 regarding the university's use of the consolidated 20 equipment financing program. 21 We had worked with the Board of Governors and 22 devised a process where the universities will 23 submit any time they're proposing to use the CEFP, 24 that will be provide -- that information will be 25 provided to staff of the Board of Governors which

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1 will be shared with us, so there will be a process 2 to ensure review prior to the university's use of 3 that facility. 4 So I believe that this is -- puts it in a 5 posture that will be consistent with our normal 6 debt management policies and require a 7 justification of the merits of any project that is 8 going to be financed before it is used. 9 So we have worked that out with them, we had 10 posted the RFP on the website, we will continue 11 with the solicitation. I will bring back to you 12 the results of the solicitation prior to -- in 13 October with the expectation that the program will 14 be implemented before the termination date of the 15 existing facility. 16 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you. 17 DIRECTOR WATKINS: And Item Number 3 is repeal 18 of an administrative rule that dealt with our 19 review and approval of housing bonds which is 20 obsolete and no longer needed. 21 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Is there a motion 22 on the item? 23 CFO ATWATER: So moved. 24 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 25 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Second.

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1 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 2 (NO RESPONSE). 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 4 carries. 5 DIRECTOR WATKINS: Thank you very much. 6 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thanks, Ben. 7 8 9 * * * * 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

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1 ADMINISTRATION COMMISSION 2 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Next I'd like to recognize 4 Mark Kruse with the Administration Commission. 5 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: Good afternoon. 6 We have three items on the Administration 7 Commission agenda. Item 1, request approval of the 8 minutes of the June 23rd, 2015, meeting. 9 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a motion on the 10 item? 11 CFO ATWATER: So moved. 12 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 13 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Second. 14 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 15 (NO RESPONSE). 16 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 17 carries. 18 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: Item 2, request 19 authorization to publish a notice of proposed rule 20 repeal for 17 Commission rules within Chapter 28-24 21 FAC. If no request for a public hearing is 22 received as a result of the notice, request 23 authorization to file for final repeal. 24 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Is there a motion 25 on the item?

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1 CFO ATWATER: So moved. 2 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 3 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Second. 4 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 5 (NO RESPONSE). 6 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 7 carries. 8 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: Item 3, request 9 consideration of the Department of Economic 10 Opportunity's 2014 Florida Keys Area of Critical 11 State Concern annual report. This afternoon we 12 have Bill Killingsworth with the Department who 13 will provide highlights of the Department's 2014 14 annual report, followed by eight speakers that 15 we're aware of at this time. 16 And at this time I'd like to ask 17 Bill Killingsworth to come forward. 18 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Good afternoon. 19 MR. KILLINGSWORTH: Thank you, Mark. 20 Thank you, Governor Scott, General Bondi, 21 CFO Atwater, and Commissioner Putnam. 22 I appreciate being here today to represent the 23 Department of Economic Opportunity, and I would 24 like to thank Rebecca Tuton and Barbara Powell for 25 their great work in preparing this report.

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1 Today I'd like to focus on three main topics: 2 The status of wastewater connections, the transient 3 hotel opportunity, and the adoption of greater 4 growth ordinances. Work program tasks are 5 measurable actions with due dates intended to 6 improve water quality, to improve habitat 7 protection, and to ensure safe evacuation. 8 Most of the work program tasks address 9 wastewater plant construction and the progress made 10 connecting to wastewater facilities. Other tasks 11 include applying for grants for land acquisition 12 and for planning activities related to safe 13 evacuation of the Keys. 14 During the report period of July 2013 to 15 June 2014, the Village of Islamorada completed 16 82 percent of their tasks. They spent 17 approximately 64 million in wastewater construction 18 and completed 18 percent of their connections. 19 The City of Marathon completed 86 percent of 20 their tasks, allocating over 46 million in 21 wastewater funding in the past year. The City has 22 connected 91 percent of their connections. 23 Monroe County has completed 70 percent of 24 their assigned tasks, and has secured approximately 25 200 million in funding for wastewater construction.

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1 Monroe has completed 63 percent of their 2 connections. 3 Based off the current building permit 4 allocation system limiting new residential 5 construction to 3,550 units over the next 6 ten years, it is projected that by 2023 there will 7 likely remain a large number of vacant parcels in 8 need of land acquisition. 9 To assist in reducing the number of vacant 10 developable lots, the Department proposes transient 11 hotel opportunity that will award up to 300 hotel 12 units in exchange for the reduction of development 13 rights at a ratio of three lots extinguished to one 14 hotel unit. 15 The concept is based upon the following strong 16 hotel demand: There are high occupancy rates 17 within the Keys, average daily rate within the Keys 18 is $247, and the recent program value is over 19 $700,000 per room for a hotel unit. 20 If successful, the transient hotel opportunity 21 will further economic opportunities within the 22 Keys; protect environmentally sensitive lots; and 23 reduce the number of developable lots remaining 24 post-2023, while maintaining hurricane evacuation 25 times.

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1 Finally, in response to the 2012 directive 2 from the Administration Commission, the Department 3 worked with local governments in the Keys to adopt 4 an annual building cap. All the local governments 5 within the Keys, with the exception of 6 Key Colony Beach, have an allocation adopted into 7 their comprehensive plans. 8 Therefore, the Department makes the following 9 recommendations pursuant to Section 380.0552(4)(b) 10 of the Florida Statutes: One, to accept the 2014 11 annual report for Monroe County, the City of 12 Marathon, and the Village of Islamorada; two, to 13 continue the Florida Keys Area of Critical State 14 Concern designation in order to complete the work 15 program; three, accept the Department's 16 recommendation that substantial progress towards 17 accomplishing the strategies of the work program 18 have been achieved for Monroe County, the City of 19 Marathon, and the Village of Islamorada; four, in 20 response to the 2012 directive from the 21 Administration Commission, the Department asks the 22 Administration Commission to consider one of the 23 following two options: Continue to work with the 24 City of Key Colony Beach regarding issuance of 25 development orders, or initiate rulemaking to the

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1 City's comprehensive plan to establish a building 2 permit allocation system for Key Colony Beach in 3 accordance with the hurricane evacuation memorandum 4 of understanding. 5 And then finally, to accept the Department's 6 recommendation to initiate rulemaking for a hotel 7 program that will allow the creation of a limited 8 number of hotel unit allocations. 9 Thank you. 10 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you. 11 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: Thank you, Bill. 12 We have eight speakers. And so that the 13 speakers can be ready, I'll announce them in 14 threes. 15 The first three are: Representative 16 Holly Raschein, next would be Commissioner 17 Heather Carruthers of Monroe County, and then 18 followed by Mayor Mike Forster of Village of 19 Islamorada. 20 Representative Raschein, thank you. 21 REPRESENTATIVE HOLLY RASCHEIN: Thank you. 22 Thank you, Mark; and Mr. Governor, Cabinet; and a 23 huge thank you to Executive Director Extraordinaire 24 Jesse Pannucio and his wonderful staff, as you can 25 see by the very comprehensive report in front of

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1 you. They have spent countless hours working on 2 this, visiting the community, and I think they have 3 a wonderful product in front of you. 4 And I want to thank you all. I want to thank 5 you all for recognizing the uniqueness of the Keys. 6 I don't have to tell you all, you're regular 7 visitors, to -- you know how wonderful we've got, 8 you know, our island home; paradise takes a lot of 9 work. 10 But I think, as you can see from the report, 11 we've made some tremendous progress as a community, 12 and I think it's a -- you know, it's a testament to 13 our commitment. I think it's a testament for the 14 agency and the Cabinet as our kind of overseer; 15 that we've moved forward, and we still have a lot 16 of work to do, as you can see. And I'm also amazed 17 at the willingness of the agency to be our partner 18 as we move forward. 19 As you know, our rate of growth ordinance, our 20 ROGO system, is kind of winding down, and we're 21 finding that we're going to have a few issues in 22 the very near future. So I think through our 23 partnership, you know, we've got a lot of creative 24 ways that we're coming up with -- that, you know, 25 will help Monroe County.

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1 And the hotel issue, the transient unit swap 2 and things like that I think are another tool in 3 our tool box that are -- you know, that will 4 actually help us out moving forward with that, 5 which is a good segue into a piece of legislation 6 that I'm thinking about filing, which is the 7 Florida Keys Stewardship Act. 8 And, again, segueing, you know, after the 9 report, it's a -- the language basically, I don't 10 have it in front of me, is a comprehensive way of 11 moving us forward in the future with regard to land 12 acquisition, which the report recognizes, thank you 13 so much; and our water needs. 14 Wastewater, as you heard, we're kind of 15 rounding down on that, but we still have stormwater 16 to talk about; we still have canal restoration; 17 affordable housing, all that kind of stuff is 18 coming into play with the legislation that I'm 19 planning on sponsoring. 20 So with that, I'll take any comments or 21 questions. 22 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any questions or comments? 23 (NO RESPONSE). 24 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you, Representative. 25 REPRESENTATIVE HOLLY RASCHEIN: Thank you

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1 guys. 2 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: Commissioner 3 Carruthers. 4 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Good afternoon. 5 COMMISSIONER CARRUTHERS: Hi, nice to see you 6 all again. 7 And thank you, Governor and Cabinet, for this 8 opportunity to speak to you on behalf of 9 Monroe County, the Florida Keys, the southern most 10 county in the continental United States. 11 Monroe County has worked very hard on our 12 work plan and our progress for this Area of 13 Critical State Concern work plan. We're very 14 encouraged that DEO has acknowledged our 70-percent 15 success rate. 16 And I would like to just update you, that 17 since July of 2014, we have made additional 18 progress. Our Cudjoe Wastewater Treatment Plant is 19 substantially complete, the county has comitted to 20 funding the construction of a deep injection well 21 to treat the treated -- accept the treated 22 effluent. 23 And I'd like to say that our progress on 24 wastewater would not be possible without the 25 support of this Cabinet. We thank each of you for

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1 your past support for wastewater funding, but as 2 our representative just reminded you, there is 3 plenty of work left to do to finish the job. 4 So we hope that you will support continuation 5 and expansion of the current Mayfield 6 authorization, whereby the state agreed to partner 7 with the communities in the Keys and provide 8 $200 million to partially fund wastewater treatment 9 implementation. Half of that has been 10 appropriated, and half of it remains to be 11 authorized. 12 In the past 12 months, we've also completed an 13 update to our comprehensive plan, incorporating 14 many mechanisms to further limit development of 15 sensitive lands, to protect our water and our 16 environment, and to encourage the creation of 17 affordable housing. We also purchased another 18 76 vacant lots for a total of $1,871,000. 19 We're committed to continuing to make progress 20 on our work plan. Those of us who live in the 21 Florida Keys respect the Keys and are committed to 22 balancing our economic vitality with the 23 environmental health of our islands, the reef, and 24 our near-shore waters. That commitment is 25 essential to maintaining a high quality of life,

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1 and to protecting the value of the Keys as an 2 economic engine for the state as a whole. 3 We are encouraged that the DEO report 4 recognizes the challenge that we, the state and the 5 local governments in the Keys, face in striking 6 this balance, particularly as it relates to our 7 limited building allocations resulting from the 8 rate of growth ordinance and hurricane evacuation 9 constraints. As the annual report indicates, there 10 are about 8,000 undeveloped lots in unincorporated 11 Monroe, but just under 2,000 available building 12 permits allowable under state law. 13 This deficit of ROGO allocations leaves us, 14 the state and the county, facing a significant 15 potential takings liability, because we can 16 reasonably assume that many of the owners of those 17 6,000 plus parcels will expect compensation if they 18 are not able to build. 19 The estimated cost to acquire these lands is 20 close to 190 million of today's dollars, some say 21 even more; and that, of course, is a significant 22 burden for just 75,000 county residents. 23 So we are requesting the Cabinet and the Board 24 of Trustees of the Internal Improvement Trust Fund 25 to help reduce this potential liability in several

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1 ways: Utilize that $17.4 million of Florida 2 Forever Funds in fiscal '15/'16, and prioritize 3 acquisition of parcels near the NAS Key West, as 4 Director Killingsworth mentioned, and as mentioned 5 in the report; and then support the legislation 6 that our Representative just brought up to advance 7 the legislative requirements and intent of the 8 Florida Keys Protection Act, which designated the 9 Florida Keys as an area of critical concern in 10 1979. 11 Representative Raschein's bill, the 12 Florida Keys Stewardship Act, is perfectly 13 consistent with the findings of the report and the 14 goals of our ASCS designation. And while these 15 efforts will not solve the entire potential takings 16 liability faced by the state and Monroe County, any 17 land acquisition appropriations we can undertake 18 would represent giant steps toward reducing that 19 potential liability and preserving a significant 20 state economic engine and national resource. 21 We also welcome DEO's suggestion regarding the 22 Vacant Lot Retirement and Hotel Unit Allocation 23 Rule. While at least this year, the Key's tourism 24 industry and economy does not really need much more 25 stimulation, we do like the three-to-one retirement

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1 equation. 2 We respectfully request, however, that this 3 concept be vetted in a hearing or hearings within 4 the jurisdiction where it would take effect, 5 Monroe County. In fact, we'd like to invite you 6 all back to Monroe County as the Administration 7 Commission to come there and hold a Cabinet meeting 8 and discuss this right within the Keys. That way, 9 concerns regarding how those units may be 10 distributed, and any impact on affordable housing, 11 and other possible impacts to our communities, can 12 be thoroughly and transparently discussed in the 13 place where it will feel it the most. 14 Speaking of affordable housing, one of the 15 goals of our ASCS designation is to provide 16 affordable housing proximate to employment centers. 17 As the real estate market heats back up and 18 available buildable parcels disappear, this goal is 19 even harder to reach. 20 Reinvigoration and protection of the 21 Sadowski Fund could help the Keys and other 22 communities around the state address this issue. 23 And I'm just compelled to take this opportunity to 24 mention other factors that severely impact 25 affordability in the Keys and in other coastal

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1 areas: 2 Windstorm insurance rates that are overstated 3 and escalating flood premiums from the NFIP. As 4 you may know, I've been involved with flood -- with 5 insurance issues for some time, and now involved 6 with flood insurance, and I believe that if we do 7 not find some alternatives to ensure risks from 8 wind and flood, rising premiums alone will make 9 life along our coasts unaffordable. Florida's 10 coasts generate 80 percent of Florida's GDP. This 11 is a problem that must be solved. 12 So thank you, Governor and Cabinet, for 13 allowing me to digress for a second, and also for 14 the opportunity to discuss the DEO annual report. 15 We value the partnership we have built with the 16 state in this endeavor over the past 36 years, and 17 we look forward to a continued robust relationship 18 that will protect the Florida Keys, preserving 19 paradise for the benefit of all Floridians. 20 Thank you. 21 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you. 22 Good afternoon. 23 MAYOR FORSTER: Good afternoon. 24 Good afternoon, Governor Scott and members of 25 the Cabinet. My name is Mike Forster, I'm the

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1 mayor of Islamorada, The Village of Islands. 2 Islamorada is a community in the Florida Keys 3 comprised of four islands and about 6200 permanent 4 residents. We are within a designated area of 5 critical state concern, and I appreciate the 6 opportunity to address you today and to update you 7 on Islamorada's progress in reaching compliance 8 with state requirements and administrative rule 9 requirements as an area of critical state concern. 10 The 2014 report from the Department of 11 Economic Opportunity documents Islamorada's efforts 12 and continued progress towards completing our work 13 program tasks and will expand on that report mainly 14 in regards to Village's wastewater capital project. 15 In 2006, Islamorada completed a wastewater 16 collection and treatment system in the north end of 17 the village. 18 In 2012 we elected to partner with the 19 Key Largo Wastewater District for the treatment of 20 waste from Islamorada instead of building 21 additional treatment plants, and we started 22 construction of an advanced wastewater collection 23 and transmission system for the remainder of the 24 village. 25 And the 2014 report from DEO states that

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1 Islamorada has not yet met the requirements of 2 connection to a wastewater treatment system be 3 available to 25 percent of properties within the 4 village; however, I am pleased to report to you 5 today that over the past year and a half, we have 6 made substantial progress toward completing the 7 wastewater collection and transmission system 8 mandated by the State of Florida in an effort to 9 protect our environment and the waters of the 10 Florida Keys. 11 The next report from DEO will include 12 information confirming that our wastewater system 13 was completed, and a hundred percent of properties 14 will have had connection availability ahead of the 15 December 2015 deadline. 16 The State of Florida made the progress 17 possible with the approval of the hundred million 18 in Everglades bonds to fund wastewater capital 19 projects construction in the Florida Keys. 20 Islamorada received 27 million of the Mayfield 21 grant money to use toward our $130 million project. 22 The remainder of the 130 million is being funded 23 primarily through the Florida Department of 24 Revenue's State Revolving Fund Loan Program and 25 through non-ad valorem assessments levied on

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1 property owners in Islamorada which, again, is 2 6200 people. 3 Wastewater rates paid by customers of the 4 system and local government, discretionary sale 5 surtax proceeds will be used to pay our future debt 6 service obligations. 7 Additionally, we have worked at the federal 8 level to secure grants through the Army Corps of 9 Engineers. Although Islamorada's permanent 10 resident population is approximately 6200 people, 11 as a tourist destination, we must provide 12 infrastructure and services to meet the needs of 13 many thousand more visitors and nonpermanent 14 residents on an ongoing basis. 15 While the State of Florida and Islamorada 16 benefit from the sales tax revenue and property tax 17 revenue that these visitors and nonpermanent 18 residents provide, small communities like 19 Islamorada can be disproportionately burdened by 20 costs associated with the higher level of service 21 requirements. 22 We ask for your continued support of our 23 efforts to secure additional funding for our 24 wastewater capital project and other important 25 environmental projects that will only help maintain

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1 the Florida Keys as a leading tourist destination 2 in the world. 3 With the wastewater project close to 4 completion, we will continue to need your support 5 and ask your support through legislation that will 6 provide continued funding to the Florida Keys local 7 governments for environmental sustainability and 8 protection. Issues such as land acquisition -- 9 I'm sorry -- land acquisition, canal restoration, 10 and stormwater infrastructure are very much at the 11 forefront of our community; and with the support of 12 the Governor, the Cabinet, and the Legislature, we 13 will be ready to address those challenges. 14 There is no other place like the Florida Keys, 15 and we have appreciated the growing partnership 16 with the State of Florida during our years as an 17 area of critical state concern. Meeting the 18 requirements placed upon us as an area of critical 19 state concern is an integral part of our daily 20 operation, and it effects nearly everything that we 21 do as elected officials and staff. 22 Moving forward, we will continue our 23 compliance with the BPAS system to ensure that we 24 control our rate of growth and continue to meet 25 hurricane evacuation times. You are likely aware

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1 of the critical importance of land acquisition in 2 the Florida Keys. Even though finding grants for 3 land acquisition was the one task that Islamorada 4 did not meet in 2014, it is certainly not because 5 we failed to understand its importance. 6 And this year, I look forward to meeting and 7 working with DEO officials as we begin to explore a 8 hotel pilot program to further address our land 9 acquisition needs. 10 I look forward to your continued support and 11 hope that you will continue to share our goal of 12 preserving and protecting the fabulous 13 Florida Keys. 14 Thank you very much. 15 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you. 16 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: Thank you, Mayor. 17 The next three speakers are Mayor Jerry Ellis, 18 City of Key Colony Beach; Carol Bracy representing 19 the City of Marathon; and Brian Schmitt with 20 Coldwell Banker Schmitt. 21 If Mayor Jerry Ellis will please come forward. 22 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Good afternoon. 23 MAYOR ELLIS: Good afternoon. 24 It's an honor to be here, Governor and 25 Cabinet. I'm Jerry Ellis, Mayor of Key Colony

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1 Beach, and my mission here today is to give you a 2 current state of affairs of our city. 3 It might help if I put my glasses on. I 4 forgot. 5 Key Colony Beach is a small community of less 6 than 800 full-time residents. The average age of 7 our population is 71 years old. We are a 8 destination city where our visitors come by choice 9 and not by accident. Our primary season is 10 wintertime; from November through May, their 11 population can exceed 5,000. 12 Key Colony Beach is not growing by population 13 and per the state-revenue-sharing department recent 14 sharing of their revenue with us, we determined 15 that our population had actually decreased over the 16 past year to under 800. This is in spite of an 17 increase in development over the past two years. 18 We have produced in excess of $16 million in 19 revenue to the -- all of us to the community and to 20 the state through residential development without 21 affecting any resources, without affecting any 22 evacuation formula to evacuation (sic). So we're 23 doing our share and we're not hurting our 24 resources. 25 Of the last 13 permits issued -- this is

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1 really an important point I want to make here, it's 2 important. 3 Of the last 13 permits issued, not one has 4 resulted in a full-time resident, not one. You 5 say: Where are these people -- what are they 6 doing? They're building winter homes that they 7 want to visit in the wintertime, and they don't 8 mind spending a million dollars to do it, I can 9 tell you, they do it. 10 And some of them want to rent, some don't want 11 to rent. The ones that rent -- I'll pick back up 12 here in my story -- they want to rent weekly, as we 13 allow weekly rentals; and -- but the large majority 14 of them don't want to do anything, they just want 15 to own a home there in the wintertime and have it 16 theirs. 17 I have a brand new neighbor next door to me 18 from Colorado. He's with the NFL, he does their 19 stadium development all over the world, and he and 20 his wife -- lovely wife and two children built a 21 beautiful home right next door to me, and I don't 22 think they've been there three times since it was 23 built. It's kind of a -- it looks like an enormous 24 vacant abandoned building next door to me. 25 We currently have 520 rentals that are weekly,

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1 and 133 long-term rentals that I will call 2 affordable housing. These 133 units are full-time 3 residents and are there year-round. Our total 4 residential units is 1439, so you can see that 5 roughly almost half of what we have there is in the 6 rental community. 7 In summary, Key Colony Beach is not adversely 8 affecting our resources, and we are not adding 9 numbers to the evacuation formula. There is 10 nothing broke here and nothing to fix, and that's 11 why we would hope that you would spare us the ROGO 12 agony. We're trying to fix something that 13 basically is not broke. 14 We have never had any ROGO in our community; 15 we have a wastewater system, we have a stormwater 16 system. We're now upgrading our wastewater system 17 to the tune of $5 million, working with the DEP. 18 And while I'm saying that, I want to thank you 19 for the Mayfield grant. We really needed that 20 million dollars, and your funding it is greatly 21 appreciated by our community. We support another 22 one if there's one there to be had. 23 In that, I would like to say thank you again 24 for your patience with my stumbling through this 25 today, and I would hope you'd come and visit us

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1 very soon. 2 And, Governor, it was good seeing you again. 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Nice seeing you. 4 MAYOR ELLIS: Thank you very much. 5 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: Carol Bracy. 6 MS. BRACY: Good afternoon. 7 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Good afternoon. 8 MS. BRACY: Good afternoon, Governor and 9 members of the Cabinet. 10 I'm Carol Bracy here representing the City of 11 Marathon and the City Council. 12 I'm going to defer -- we did have someone from 13 the City come up today to make the trip to thank 14 the Governor and the state for their efforts on 15 this report. It's Deputy City Manager 16 George Garrett, who is also the Planning Director 17 for the City. 18 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Good afternoon. 19 MR. GARRETT: Good afternoon. I will keep 20 this brief. I know you've had a long agenda in 21 front of you already. And we appreciate, from the 22 City of Marathon, the opportunity to speak before 23 you today. 24 I've been through this effort as an Area of 25 Critical State Concern in my professional career

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1 from 1984 to the present. We appreciate the 2 state's involvement really every step of the way, 3 and certainly the City is here today in support of 4 the annual report provided by the Department of 5 Economic Opportunity to you today. 6 It's been a long road. The City of Marathon 7 is very happy to tell you that our wastewater and 8 stormwater efforts are complete. We look forward, 9 frankly, as the model of I think what is in front 10 of you as a rule, potentially, to do a swap between 11 land acquisition and transient units. We've 12 already started that effort. Again, thank you for 13 that, the hundred that we received a couple of 14 years ago. 15 We look at ourselves, frankly, as the focus 16 for a lot of the redevelopment that is occurring in 17 the Keys right now, while we support much of the 18 land acquisition that needs to occur around us and, 19 in fact, in some of our areas within the city. 20 I think as we look forward, we know that the 21 things that are left to us are finishing up our 22 wastewater system; it's done, most people are 23 connected, we know we have some improvements to 24 make yet. 25 As we look further forward, we know we have

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1 land acquisition efforts to accomplish, and we have 2 canal restoration efforts to accomplish as well, in 3 furtherance of all of the water quality and land 4 protection issues that we have. 5 And thank you very much. We do support your 6 efforts here this evening. Thank you. 7 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you. 8 MR. SCHMITT: Governor, Cabinet, thank you for 9 hosting the contingent from the Florida Keys today. 10 My name is Brian Schmitt. I'm a life-long 11 resident of the Florida Keys, and unlike the prior 12 speakers, I'm not an elected official or a civil 13 servant. 14 I'm here as the owner of the oldest and 15 largest real estate company in the Florida Keys. 16 We have offices in every jurisdiction from 17 Key Largo to Key West, and my agents proudly sell 18 one in every four properties from Key Largo to 19 Key West. 20 As a 60-year-old company, we represent some of 21 the largest developers in the Keys; in fact, one of 22 them who is going to speak to you, the largest, in 23 a few moments. And as such, you might, therefore, 24 expect that I'd be here today to ask you to do away 25 with the Area of State Critical Concern (sic) and

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1 provide for increased development; but conversely, 2 I'm here today to tell you that the Area of State 3 Critical Concern (sic) is working. The state's 4 stewardship of the Keys is working; the Rate of 5 Growth Ordinance, or ROGO, is working. 6 And those of us with long vested interests who 7 reside in the Keys value the quality of life that 8 critical concern designation provides and that -- 9 the economic stability that it creates. 10 But I am here today to thank you and ask you 11 to continue your stewardship into the final stages 12 of ROGO when fewer or possibly no permits would be 13 available and property rights will be tested. 14 I'm also here today to ask you to continue to 15 partner with all of the residents and jurisdictions 16 in the Florida Keys, to be creative with lot 17 dedication, and fund an aggressive land acquisition 18 program now to avert the hurricane of takings 19 claims to come. 20 The Keys needs an ongoing dedicated funding 21 source to purchase the thousands of properties made 22 unbuildable when the 24-hour evacuation time is 23 exceeded. The Keys will need hundreds of millions 24 of dollars to acquire these properties for the 25 benefit of all Floridians, and your continued help

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1 in that funding is critical. 2 So thank you again for your past stewardship 3 and support in advance of your continued interest 4 in the quality of life, as well as property rights 5 in the Florida Keys. 6 Thank you. 7 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you. 8 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: Our last two 9 speakers are Pritam Singh, developer and founder of 10 the Singh Company, if you could please come 11 forward. And our last speaker is Charles Pattison 12 of Thousand Friends of Florida. 13 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Good afternoon. 14 MR. SINGH: Good afternoon. Thank you, 15 Governor and Cabinet. It's a real honor to be 16 here. 17 My name is Pritam Singh. I've been in the 18 Florida Keys for 29 years full time. I first 19 bought the Truman Annex, which I think most of you 20 have probably seen, 29 years ago this month. And 21 after ten years, we finished that development, and 22 it's the largest, I think the largest development 23 in the history of the Florida Keys. 24 Since then we've continued to build all over 25 the Keys, Hawks Cay, in Marathon; and continuing in

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1 Key West, we just opened a new hotel this last year 2 in downtown Key West. I have two hotels under 3 development right now. And I did the math today 4 with my son, who is here, and I think we've built 5 12 percent of all of the hotels that exist in the 6 Florida Keys, or have them under construction now. 7 You know, us in the Keys pride ourselves on 8 being a little different, and so it may come to a 9 surprise -- be a surprise to you that we're here to 10 ask you to regulate, regulate, regulate. Now most 11 businessmen I know are not so in favor, but it's 12 worked for us. 13 Us being in the Area of Critical State Concern 14 and the ROGO regime that we have, the regulatory 15 regime that we have, the Keys are a much better 16 place because of it. 17 We have an extraordinary economy in the Keys. 18 We're one of the premier tourist destinations and 19 hotel destinations in the country, but that comes 20 at a cost. We have some of the highest rates, some 21 of the highest occupancies; but we also have some 22 of the highest operating costs. We have some of 23 the highest values, but we also have the highest 24 construction costs. 25 I'll give you an example. In terms of

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1 operating costs, it costs me, for my recent hotel 2 that I just built, $35.70 a day per room for 3 insurance. So that means the first $36 a day that 4 anybody pays me just goes straight to insurance. 5 It's very expensive to operate there. 6 The system that you devised that works there 7 has actually helped to create the values that we 8 have. We support the DEO's recommendation. 9 Personally, I would like to ask you to 10 consider maybe reducing the number of new hotel 11 units you would add. You know, those numbers have 12 been pretty fixed for a long time, and that 13 transparency and predictability is what has been 14 contributing to the hundreds of millions and 15 actually billions of dollars. 16 I did a calculation before I came up here. 17 About a billion and a half dollars has been spent 18 on hotels in the Keys in the last four to 19 five years. One of the reasons is people know what 20 they're going to get, and they rely on the system 21 that exists, the regulatory system. Any changes in 22 that have the possibility of affecting us 23 negatively. 24 Now one of the reasons we're getting the 25 higher rates is because so many hundreds of

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1 millions of dollars have been spent on renovating 2 and upgrading our tourist base in the hotel 3 industry in particular. 4 So I support, and I think I represent most of 5 the property owners and the hotel industry in the 6 Keys, we support the DEO, but with a huge caveat. 7 The caveat is that it be done very carefully, 8 that it be done in cooperation and a real 9 understanding of the reality in the Keys, that it 10 be done -- I'd like to request that you consider 11 doing it for 200 units, not 300. I'd like to 12 request that you consider doing it over a, say, 13 five-year period; so if it's 200, it's 40 a year; 14 if it's 300, it's 60 a year; and that it only be 15 done for redevelopment of existing properties. 16 That's what's happened in the City of Marathon 17 with the units that you gave them, which some of 18 which, by the way, I ended up getting, and 19 thank you. 20 And I think if it's done right, this can work 21 really well; but as you know, the devil is always 22 in the details, and I know the details are to come. 23 But I hope that you keep that in mind, and I 24 thank you for all of your efforts for us, and we 25 look forward to seeing you again in the beautiful

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1 Florida Keys. 2 Thank you. 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you. 4 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Governor, I have a 5 question for the gentleman -- you want us to reduce 6 the hotel unit allocations by a third before or 7 after you get your two properties built? 8 MR. SINGH: I'm sorry, say that again. 9 GOVERNOR SCOTT: It wasn't good for you. I 10 wouldn't ask him to say it again. I'd say -- just 11 smile and I'd go back to your seat. 12 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: I just wanted to be 13 clear when you wanted us to do that. 14 GOVERNOR SCOTT: I'd smile and go back to your 15 seat. 16 Yes, sir. 17 MR. PATTISON: Governor and members of the 18 Commission, Charles Pattison again with 1000 19 Friends of Florida. We want to lend our support to 20 the DEO report and recommendations to you. 21 I'm not here as a resident, although I am an 22 Honorary Conch, having spent some time down in the 23 Keys. 24 I think it's extraordinary that you've heard 25 from so many different people and perspectives, and

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1 no one is asking you to lift any of the 2 restrictions. I think you heard very clearly, and 3 we certainly would work with you to do this, to 4 support ongoing wastewater treatment and land 5 acquisition. I think those are going to be two of 6 the key issues going forward. 7 We appreciate your leadership and look forward 8 to working with you on this in the future. 9 Thank you. 10 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Thank you. 11 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: That concludes our 12 speakers. To wrap up the item, as 13 Mr. Killingsworth indicated, there are five 14 components to the Department's recommendation. 15 Governor, would the Commission like to take a 16 vote on the Department's recommendations 1, 2, 3, 17 and 5 first; and then move to a separate vote on 18 the Option Recommendation Number 4; or would you 19 like to take each item individually? 20 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Well, let's just do 1, 2, 3, 21 and 5. That's what we're going to do first. Is 22 that all right with everybody? 23 Okay. So is there a motion to approve 24 actions -- approve 1, 2, 3, and 5? 25 CFO ATWATER: So moved.

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1 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 2 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Second. 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 4 (NO RESPONSE). 5 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 6 carries. 7 Now we'll go to Number 4. 8 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: Yes, sir. And the 9 options there, Commission members, are: A, 10 continue to work with the City of Key Colony Beach 11 regarding issuance of development orders; or, B, 12 initiate rulemaking workshops to amend the City of 13 Key Colony Beach's comprehensive plan to establish 14 a building permit allocation system for the City in 15 accordance with the Commission directive. 16 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a motion? 17 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: I have a question before 18 a motion, Governor. 19 Your preferred option, as I understand it, is 20 to continue to work with Key Colony Beach on the 21 development order. We haven't seen this Keys' Area 22 of Critical State Concern annual report in 23 two annums. Should we set a deadline for when you 24 would come back to us after continuing your 25 conversations with Key Colony Beach so that we can

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1 help you provide a backstop to bring this in for a 2 landing? 3 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: We'd be happy to 4 take whatever direction the Commission would like 5 to provide. 6 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Do you have a recommendation? 7 Help. 8 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: We don't have a 9 recommendation on the timing, Governor, but we'd -- 10 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Well, do you have an 11 estimate? 12 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: Bill, would you 13 like to address that? 14 MR. KILLINGSWORTH: Thank you for that 15 question, Commissioner. 16 In terms of Option A, I think there are at 17 least three reasons why that might give you some 18 comfort there. One, over the last couple of years, 19 Key Colony Beach has only been drawing down three 20 permits a year. If that trend continues over time, 21 they will not exceed their allocation before 2023 22 arrives. 23 Additionally -- I just lost what one of the 24 three were. 25 But the other item was is that all of the

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1 permits that come to the state, the state has the 2 ability to have Key Colony Beach, by statute, 3 render their permits to the Department. So if they 4 were to exceed the allocation, then we would be in 5 a position where we could appeal that action. 6 And then the other thing is that we believe -- 7 well, in part of the discussion with Key Colony 8 Beach, we always felt that the hotel -- the 9 transient hotel opportunity would provide an option 10 where we could trade hotel units for permanent ROGO 11 units, but it was hard to convey certainty with 12 that because really what we're asking for is 13 rulemaking authority, and there is no concrete rule 14 at this point for them to look at and buy off on. 15 So I don't know if that helps you or not. 16 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Not really. 17 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. So, Mark, if we -- 18 let's just put some parameters out. Let's say 19 we're going to come back and review this in one 20 year, would that be appropriate; or is it -- 21 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: The annual report 22 has been on that schedule, Governor, so we could 23 certainly -- 24 GOVERNOR SCOTT: So we're going to get to 25 review this next year anyway.

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1 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: No, we haven't seen you 2 since 2013, so your annual report is off cycle. 3 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: So we could report 4 back at the next annual report, which would be in 5 March, which is about a six-month period from this 6 time, so that you can have an update of where 7 things stand. 8 GOVERNOR SCOTT: So in that six-month period 9 of time, is anything going to happen? 10 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: It sounds not 11 likely in terms of the number of permits issued, if 12 that's what you're referring to, Governor. 13 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. So all that's going to 14 happen is you'll come back and report to us how 15 many permits, most likely? 16 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: That could be -- 17 yes, sir. 18 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. All right. So is 19 there any reason to do this more than once a year? 20 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: That doesn't seem 21 like a necessity in terms of that particular 22 option. 23 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. So does anybody 24 have any other -- does that sound logical to 25 everybody, one year?

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1 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Well, if I understood 2 his response to you correctly, I would move that we 3 accept Option A, which is -- 4 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Work with the City. 5 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: -- continue to work with 6 Key Colony Beach regarding development orders, and 7 have a report back to the Board in March of 2016. 8 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: That's certainly 9 one option. Or you could choose to go it (sic) for 10 one year from now as well, whichever the Commission 11 would like to do. 12 GOVERNOR SCOTT: I'm okay with March. 13 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Governor, if I may, 14 I'm okay with March. I think what they're trying 15 to do is play catchup, and then we'll get on a 16 regular yearly basis; is that correct? 17 If you come back in March, then we can do it 18 each year from then, because I think they are 19 behind in the yearly reporting. 20 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is that correct, Mark? 21 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: Yes, sir, we -- 22 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. 23 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: -- the opportunity 24 was given for staff to try and make some progress 25 with the --

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1 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. 2 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: -- entities, and so 3 that's why there was a delay. 4 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. So the motion on the 5 table is, do Option A, but you're going to come 6 back in March and tell us where you are. 7 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: Certainly. 8 GOVERNOR SCOTT: And then the result of that 9 is going to be that then we're going to be in -- 10 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: A year. 11 GOVERNOR SCOTT: No, every year we'll have -- 12 we'll make a decision next March, but if we decide 13 to continue to work, we'll get a report every year. 14 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: Yes. 15 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. Is there is a second? 16 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Second. 17 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. Any comments or 18 objections? 19 (NO RESPONSE). 20 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. Hearing none, the 21 motion carries. 22 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: That concludes the 23 Administration Commission agenda. 24 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thanks everybody from the 25 Keys. We all love being down there.

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1 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: We love lobster 2 season. 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Yeah, that was fun. 4 5 6 * * * * 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

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1 FLORIDA LAND AND WATER ADJUDICATORY COMMISSION 2 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. Go ahead, Mark. 4 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: Thank you, 5 Governor. 6 We have two items on the Florida Land and 7 Water Adjudicatory Commission -- 8 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. We're going to take a 9 five-minute break. 10 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: Yes, sir. 11 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Yeah, we're just going to 12 take a break. 13 (BRIEF RECESS). 14 15 * * * * 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

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1 STATE BOARD OF ADMINISTRATION 2 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Ash, we're going 4 to take you out of order. 5 Okay. So we're going to do -- if we can move 6 the agenda to -- we're going to do Ash Williams 7 now, and then we'll go back to Mark. 8 All right. So we're doing the State Board of 9 Administration now. 10 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: Thank you, 11 Governor, Trustees, Cabinet members. 12 First, by way of update, as of last night's 13 close, calendar year to date, the Florida 14 Retirement System Trust Fund was down 2.3 percent. 15 That's 1.32 percent ahead of target, with a balance 16 of $138.8 billion. That's down $7.7 billion net of 17 distributions from the beginning of the calendar 18 year. 19 Item 1, request approval of -- 20 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Ash -- 21 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: Yes, sir. 22 GOVERNOR SCOTT: -- let me stop you for a 23 second. 24 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: I'm sorry. 25 GOVERNOR SCOTT: So to put that in

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1 perspective, the expectation is we need to get a 2 7.75 percent return each and every year, right? 3 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: No, not each and 4 every year. 5 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Well -- 6 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: Over the 7 long term. 8 GOVERNOR SCOTT: The truth is, we have to get 9 it better than that, we're still underfunded, 10 right, a little bit? 11 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: Yes. 12 GOVERNOR SCOTT: And so this year, unless 13 something changes, this will be a tough year to do 14 that. 15 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: Correct. 16 GOVERNOR SCOTT: But you're still doing better 17 than the market. 18 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: Oh, yes, that's 19 true. But I think the broader picture is the 20 long-term performance. 21 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Right. 22 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: And as you will 23 see, if we elect to go through the performance 24 series that Aon Hewitt has for us, the long-term 25 numbers are perfectly sound. And if you'll look

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1 at say trailing five year -- 2 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Yeah. 3 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: -- trailing 4 ten year -- 5 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Yeah. 6 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: -- they're 7 substantially ahead of the 7.65. 8 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Yeah. 9 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: It's not 10 expected -- 11 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Ash, especially if you look 12 at just the years that you were there, right? 13 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: That was the 14 appropriate focus. 15 GOVERNOR SCOTT: You didn't say that, I did, 16 right? 17 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: It -- I mean, 18 tough markets. We're risk constrained, so by 19 definition, when markets are tough, and they're as 20 tough as I've ever seen them -- 21 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Right. 22 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: -- right now, 23 there's only so much better we can do because we're 24 not going to take enough risk to do a complete 25 blowup of the fund.

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1 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Did you see what Carl Icahn 2 said? 3 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: Yes, and he's a 4 very smart man. 5 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Yeah. 6 All right. We're on Item 1, the bond 7 issuance, right? 8 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: Thank you. 9 Request approval of a fiscal determination in 10 connection with the issuance of an amount not 11 exceeding $10 million Florida Housing Finance 12 Corporation multifamily mortgage revenue bonds. 13 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a motion to approve? 14 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: So moved. 15 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 16 CFO ATWATER: Second. 17 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 18 (NO RESPONSE). 19 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 20 carries. 21 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: Thank you. 22 Item 2, request approval of the SBA quarterly 23 investment report required by the Protecting 24 Florida's Investments Act. 25 Just as a summary of the activity during the

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1 quarter period, when we look at the scrutinized and 2 continued examination companies list, there was no 3 net change on Sudan; and on Iran, there was a net 4 addition of one scrutinized company. 5 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Is there a motion 6 to approve the item? 7 CFO ATWATER: So moved. 8 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 9 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Second. 10 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 11 (NO RESPONSE). 12 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 13 carries. 14 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Could I just comment, 15 Governor, if I may? 16 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Sure. 17 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Thank you for doing 18 such a good job on that. That's very important to 19 all of us. Thank you. 20 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: You're welcome. 21 Thank you. 22 Item 3, request approval of a draft letter to 23 the Joint Legislative Auditing Committee affirming 24 that the SBA Trustees have reviewed and approved 25 the monthly Florida Prime and Fund B management

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1 summary reports and actions taken, if any, to 2 address any material impacts. There have been no 3 material impacts, and we will have Fund B wound 4 down with finality by the end of this month. 5 GOVERNOR SCOTT: That's great. 6 All right. Is there a motion on the item? 7 CFO ATWATER: So moved. 8 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 9 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Second. 10 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 11 (NO RESPONSE). 12 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 13 carries. 14 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: Thank you. 15 Items 4 and 5 are both rules to update the 16 investment policy statements for the defined 17 benefit pension portfolio and the Florida Prime 18 fund. These are both investment policy statements 19 previously approved by the Trustees. 20 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a motion on the -- 21 let's do 4 and 5 -- no reason -- we'll do 4 and 5 22 together. 23 Is there a motion on 4 and 5? 24 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: So moved. 25 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second?

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1 CFO ATWATER: Second. 2 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 3 (NO RESPONSE). 4 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 5 carries. 6 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: Thank you. 7 Item 6, request approval of changes to the 8 charter of the Audit Committee of the State Board 9 of Administration. These essentially bring -- or 10 keep our Audit Committee charter in compliance with 11 best practice. 12 These were reviewed and discussed by the 13 Audit Committee in a public meeting. They've also 14 been reviewed by the Chief Risk and Compliance 15 Officer, the Inspector General, the Chief Operating 16 Officer, Chief Financial Officer, and myself on 17 behalf of the Board, and we're in agreement on 18 these provisions. 19 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a motion on the 20 item? 21 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: So moved. 22 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 23 CFO ATWATER: Second. 24 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 25 (NO RESPONSE).

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1 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 2 carries. 3 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: Thank you. 4 Item 7 is our quarterly reports for the 5 State Board. These include the usual rundown of 6 IAC, PLGAC, Audit Committee, Corporate Governance, 7 General Counsel, Inspector General, et cetera, 8 et cetera. 9 The one I would draw your attention to is the 10 Chief Risk and Compliance Officer report, and the 11 reason I would particularly draw your attention to 12 that is that after Eric Nelson retired as 13 Chief Risk and Compliance Officer, Karen Chandler 14 stepped into that role on an acting basis. 15 We recently completed a national search in 16 which we had applications from 46 external 17 candidates and two internal candidates, including 18 Karen Chandler, and we came down to a short list of 19 two internals and three externals; created a 20 committee; created a standard set of questions to 21 ask each interviewee; did an extensive screening in 22 recent weeks; checked references, et cetera; and 23 made an overwhelming conclusion that, on balance, 24 Karen was the right choice. 25 She has served with distinction in that role

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1 over the past year, and we'd like to move ahead 2 with that on a permanent basis. 3 We've put a written summary of the search, the 4 criteria for the position, the advertisement we 5 used, Karen's background. And presuming that 6 report is acceptable to everyone, I would like to 7 treat that as affirmation of her appointment 8 consistent with the requirements of our Investment 9 Policy Statement. 10 GOVERNOR SCOTT: I don't think -- it's not on 11 the agenda, so I don't think we can do it. Ash, we 12 can't do it unless it's on the agenda. 13 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: Well, it's not a 14 normal approval. It's -- 15 GOVERNOR SCOTT: It's not required? 16 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: It's not a rule 17 or a statute, no. 18 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. So let's do this then, 19 let's -- there's no reason -- 20 (DISCUSSION OFF THE RECORD). 21 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. So we're going -- 22 let's approve it, and then if we have to come back 23 and redo it, we'll redo it. 24 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: Sure. If you 25 want me to do a separate item in the future for

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1 thoroughness purposes, I'm happy to do it. 2 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: May I? 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Attorney General. 4 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: In the future, if 5 you're asking us to do something, please. I don't 6 think this is significant, but I mean, I don't have 7 a problem, Governor, tentatively approving it. 8 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Yeah. So we're going to 9 approve it subject to going through it. In the 10 future, you just have to put it on the agenda. 11 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: That's fine. 12 That's fine, happy to do that. 13 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. So is there a 14 motion? 15 CFO ATWATER: So moved. 16 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. Second? 17 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Second. 18 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. It's all approved. 19 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: Thank you. 20 Then we have with us Katie Comstock and 21 Steve Cummings from Aon Hewitt if you'd like third 22 party performance. 23 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Do we need it? I've reviewed 24 it, we've all reviewed it. 25 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: We've all seen it.

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1 GOVERNOR SCOTT: We've reviewed it, we don't 2 need to. 3 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: In that case, 4 thank you very much. 5 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thanks, Ash. Good luck in 6 these markets. 7 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILLIAMS: Thank you. 8 9 10 11 * * * * 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

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1 FLORIDA LAND AND WATER ADJUDICATORY COMMISSION 2 (CONTINUED) 3 4 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. We're going back 5 to -- now we're at the Florida Land and Water 6 Adjudicatory Commission. 7 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: We have two items 8 on the agenda for you. Item 1, request approval of 9 the minutes of the March 10th, 2015, meeting. 10 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Is there a motion 11 on the item? 12 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: So moved. 13 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is there a second? 14 CFO ATWATER: Second. 15 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 16 (NO RESPONSE). 17 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 18 carries. 19 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KRUSE: Item 2, request 20 consideration of a request for review of the 21 St. Johns River Water Management District's 22 adoption of the fourth addendum to the 2005 water 23 supply plan. 24 Jack Heekin, the Commission's attorney for 25 this item, will walk you through the issues in the

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1 proceeding; the Commission's jurisdiction and 2 responsibilities; and he will also introduce the 3 speakers in attendance today. So I'll turn it over 4 to Jack. 5 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you. 6 MR. HEEKIN: Good afternoon. 7 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hey, Jack. 8 MR. HEEKIN: The case before you is 9 Putnam County Environmental Council versus 10 St. Johns River Water Management District, which is 11 a challenge to a regional water supply plan that 12 was adopted by the District. This matter comes 13 before you pursuant to your exclusive authority by 14 statute to review rules and orders of a Water 15 Management District to ensure consistency with the 16 provisions and purposes of Chapter 373. 17 The order challenged in this case is the 18 fourth addendum to Respondents's 2005 water supply 19 plan. Each Water Management District is required 20 by statute to conduct water supply planning for its 21 region where it determines existing sources of 22 water are not adequate to meet existing and future 23 reasonable beneficial uses, and to sustain the 24 water resources and related natural systems. 25 The District's regional water supply plan must

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1 be based on a 20-year planning period, and must 2 include several components, including a water 3 supply development component and a water resource 4 development component. Petitioner's challenge in 5 this case relates primarily to the water supply 6 development component of Respondent's plan. 7 The procedural history of this case dates back 8 to 2009, so I'll summarize briefly how we've 9 arrived at this point. 10 The St. Johns River Water Management District 11 adopted the fourth addendum to it's 2005 water 12 supply plan on May 12th of 2009. Appendix N of the 13 fourth addendum identifies several planning level 14 water supply development projects intended to meet 15 the existing and future water supply needs of the 16 region. 17 On June 9, 2009, the Petitioner in this case 18 filed a request for review to FLAWAC pursuant to 19 Section 373.114. The case was originally placed in 20 abeyance by FLAWAC staff pending the outcome of 21 three separate challenges against the fourth 22 addendum that had been filed by other entities at 23 DOAH. That abeyance was ultimately lifted on 24 January 31st of 2012 following the voluntary 25 dismissal of the last of those challenges.

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1 After lifting the abeyance, FLAWAC staff 2 reviewed the briefs that had been filed by 3 Petitioner, the Respondent, and the Department of 4 Environmental Protection which acts as an advisor 5 to the Commission in this case and had filed a 6 brief on the jurisdiction. 7 Based upon staff's review of those briefs, 8 staff determined that the review failed to raise a 9 reviewable issue. 10 Based upon the conclusion that there were no 11 grounds to accept jurisdiction or to grant the 12 requested relief, FLAWAC -- the FLAWAC Secretary 13 issued a letter declining to accept Petitioner's 14 case in dismissing the matter. 15 Petitioner appealed that dismissal to the 16 First District Court of Appeal, and the Court 17 determined the Secretary's dismissal constituted 18 procedural error because only the Commission itself 19 can decide whether or not you have jurisdiction in 20 these cases. 21 The Court further opined that one of the 22 grounds to accept jurisdiction under 373.114 could 23 exist in this case, and so it reversed the 24 dismissal and remanded it back to FLAWAC to 25 consider this petition.

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1 Subsequent to the reversal by the First DCA, 2 DEP initiated rulemaking on one of the issues that 3 Petitioner had raised in its request for review. 4 Respondent moved to stay the proceedings pending 5 the outcome of DEP's rulemaking. 6 In the interest of judicial economy, FLAWAC's 7 staff placed this case in abeyance once again with 8 the expectation that the outcome of DEP's 9 rulemaking would likely inform the Commission's 10 review and consideration of Petitioner's challenge. 11 The Petitioner objected to the abatement of 12 its request for review and sought a writ of 13 mandamus from the First DCA. The First DCA granted 14 that writ and issued its mandate on July 14th of 15 this year. This matter now comes before FLAWAC for 16 its consideration of this request for review. 17 This agenda item is comprised of three 18 subparts. Each subpart will require a separate 19 vote, and I'll walk you through what those are. 20 Preceding each vote, I will open the floor to 21 public comment on that particular item before you. 22 I ask the entities and the individual speakers 23 providing public comment to make sure they are 24 referring only to the item before the Commission at 25 that time for the vote and not to jump ahead in the

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1 schedule. 2 The first item is the threshold matter which 3 is whether or not the Commission will accept 4 jurisdiction of this case. The second item, if the 5 Commission does accept review of this case, there 6 are six third party motions that are -- entities 7 desiring to participate in this proceeding. We 8 must decide whether or not to allow them to 9 intervene as full parties or to merely participate 10 as amicus curiae. 11 And the third item is if the Commission 12 accepts review of this case, we will consider the 13 merits of the petition. 14 Are there any questions up to this point? 15 GOVERNOR SCOTT: No. 16 MR. HEEKIN: Okay. Terrific. 17 The first item for your consideration is 18 whether or not to accept Petitioner's request for 19 review. This is the jurisdictional hook that must 20 be decided by the Commission. 21 To accept a request for review, three members 22 of the Commission must determine, based on the 23 record below, either the activity authorized by the 24 challenged water management district order would 25 substantially affect natural resources of statewide

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1 or regional significance; or the order raises 2 issues of policy, statutory interpretation, or rule 3 interpretation that have regional or statewide 4 significance from the standpoint of agency 5 precedent. 6 Now as a preliminary matter, the first of 7 those jurisdictional grounds is not applicable 8 here. The fourth addendum of the 2000 water supply 9 plan does not itself authorize any specific 10 activity. The addendum identifies a number of 11 planning level water supply development projects, 12 but it does not constitute a final authorization 13 for any of those projects. 14 This matter comes before you under the second 15 jurisdictional ground. Specifically it's 16 challenged as an order raising issues of policy, 17 statutory interpretation, or rule interpretation 18 that have regional or statewide significance from 19 the standpoint of agency precedent. 20 Petitioner challenges Respondent's 21 interpretation and application of the term 22 "alternative water supplies," as that term is 23 defined in statute. That term is used by the 24 Respondent when identifying proposed alternative 25 water supply development projects in its fourth

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1 addendum. 2 The proposed projects are identified along the 3 St. Johns and Ocklawaha Rivers, which both parties 4 agree have significant natural resource value to 5 the region; therefore, whether those challenged 6 projects qualify under the statutory definition of 7 alternative water supplies will likely have 8 regional significance from the standpoint of agency 9 precedent. 10 Now without addressing the merits of 11 Petitioner's argument, it does appear that 12 Petitioner's request for review presents a facially 13 sufficient argument to permit the Commission to 14 accept jurisdiction if it so chooses. 15 Are there any questions on this point? 16 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Governor. 17 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Yes, sir. 18 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: I believe the Petitioner 19 has met the minimum threshold for review, and I 20 move that we accept the Petitioner's request for 21 review. 22 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. Let's make sure what 23 we're saying is that basically what we're saying is 24 that's the first one, we're accepting the 25 jurisdiction.

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1 MR. HEEKIN: That's correct. This is the only 2 item deciding whether or not to accept the request 3 for review. 4 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Go ahead, Attorney General. 5 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: And, Governor, I 6 completely agree that we should accept it for 7 review; however, did you say there were speakers 8 that wanted to speak just to Number 1, us having 9 the authority to accept it for review? 10 MR. HEEKIN: In advance of the voting item. 11 Because Section 286.0114 entitles all interested 12 parties to make public comment on an item before a 13 board or agency, I wanted to open the floor to 14 public comment if they so chose. 15 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. So -- 16 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Just on this, 17 Governor? 18 MR. HEEKIN: On just the jurisdictional 19 grounds. 20 GOVERNOR SCOTT: This is just to accept 21 jurisdiction? 22 MR. HEEKIN: That's correct. 23 GOVERNOR SCOTT: So anybody that wants to talk 24 about just accepting the issue -- accept or not 25 accept jurisdiction --

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1 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Right. 2 GOVERNOR SCOTT: -- this is the time for them 3 to talk. 4 MR. HEEKIN: That's correct. 5 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. Have we got anybody -- 6 MR. HEEKIN: Representing the Petitioner, we 7 have John Thomas. Representing the Respondent, we 8 have Veronika Thiebach. 9 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. So are you -- you're 10 both going to speak? Okay. 11 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Just on -- just only 12 on the point of us, Governor, accepting this for 13 review, whether we have the authority to accept. 14 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Right. 15 MR. HEEKIN: Correct. 16 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Single point. 17 MR. THOMAS: Good afternoon, Governor, Cabinet 18 members. My name is John Thomas. I represent 19 Putnam County Environmental Council who initiated 20 this proceeding. I also represent the St. Johns 21 River Keeper organization who seek to participate 22 as amicus in this proceeding. 23 I'm not going to say a lot about jurisdiction. 24 It sounds like you've already formulated a good 25 opinion about it, but I think you should be aware

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1 of what the First District Court of Appeal said 2 about jurisdiction, and I think you should also 3 perhaps take note that all of the other water 4 management districts have sought to participate in 5 this proceeding because it affects them which, 6 obviously, that's a further indication that this 7 rises to the level of a statewide precedent; that 8 it's important enough that you should accept the 9 jurisdiction. 10 The First District Court of Appeal, when this 11 case came before them, provided the following 12 reasoning regarding jurisdiction, they said: It 13 would be difficult to say that a developed plan 14 approving certain options and listing them for 15 general use would not, quote, raise an issue of 16 policy, end quote, period. 17 A new AWS -- and that's an acronym that we're 18 using for alternative water supply. And I hope you 19 don't mind if I refer to my client as PCEC and you 20 all as FLAWAC. I think we're all going to be doing 21 that. 22 This quote continues: A new AWS adds approved 23 options and would comport with the goals and 24 objectives of the Water Management District. For 25 sure, entities can go outside the plan options, and

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1 merely being a plan option is no guarantee of 2 ultimate project approval. But the addition of an 3 option to the plan would indicate the District's 4 approval, comma, objective, comma, and goal 5 regarding this option. 6 This approval raises an issue of policy. And 7 it does so, quote, from the standpoint of agency 8 precedent, end quote, period. Moving forward the 9 precedent is now that surface water pulls 10 constitute approvable plan options thus while not, 11 quote, substantially affecting, end quote, 12 interests or, quote, authorizing an activity, end 13 quote, the plan raises a policy issue sufficient to 14 invoke the Commission's jurisdiction. 15 So I think we've alleged it adequately. 16 Obviously, it's been determined to be sufficient. 17 The First District Court has indicated that the 18 judges there believe that we've raised an issue of 19 policy and that it's an important precedent, and we 20 have the other parties who really corroborate that. 21 So that's all I think that you need to know about 22 jurisdiction, and we do humbly request that you 23 accept jurisdiction in this matter. 24 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you. 25 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Governor, if I can

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1 just add one point. I've been watching all of you 2 sitting here all morning long. Thank you for being 3 so patient. You have just been so patient, and 4 thank you all. 5 MR. HEEKIN: Ms. Thiebach, would you like to 6 speak? 7 MS. THIEBACH: The District has no comment on 8 the first issue. 9 MR. HEEKIN: Okay. 10 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. So I think there's a 11 motion, and is there -- Commissioner, do you want 12 to say your motion again? 13 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Governor, I move -- 14 based on my view that they have met the minimum 15 threshold, I move to accept the request for review. 16 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Second. 17 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Is all that we need to do? 18 Is that the right language? 19 MR. HEEKIN: That's correct. 20 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. 21 MR. HEEKIN: Yes, three members of the 22 Commission must agree that one of those two 23 statutory grounds exist. 24 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. Is there second? 25 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Second.

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1 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. Any comments or 2 objections? 3 (NO RESPONSE). 4 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. The motion 5 carries. 6 MR. HEEKIN: The next item for your 7 consideration is whether to grant pending motions 8 to intervene in these proceedings and pending 9 motions to participate as amicus curiae. 10 Three entities have filed motions and briefs 11 to intervene as parties to this proceeding in 12 support of the Respondent. Those entities are: 13 Seminole County, the Orlando Utilities Commission, 14 and the Toho Water Authority. Additionally, three 15 groups from filed motions and briefs to participate 16 solely as amicus curiae in this proceeding. Those 17 entities are: The Florida Water Environment 18 Association Utility Council, the St. Johns River 19 Keeper; and a joint filing by the remaining water 20 management districts: The Northwest Florida, 21 Southwest Florida, South Florida and Suwannee River 22 Water Management Districts. 23 Regarding the motions to intervene, this 24 proceeding is governed by Section 373.114 and 25 FLAWAC's rules found in Chapter 42-2 of the Florida

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1 Administrative Code. However, based upon a review 2 of both sources, neither entitles an entity to 3 intervene in this proceeding. The statute provides 4 a definition for which entities qualify as a, 5 quote, party to have standing to file a challenge 6 before FLAWAC, but neither statute nor our rules 7 permit entities to intervene in support of a 8 respondent. 9 Seminole County, the Orlando Utilities 10 Commission, and Toho Water Authority each argues 11 they meet that definition of "party" as defined in 12 statute to entitle them to participate in this 13 proceeding. And the definition of "party" is: Any 14 affected person who submitted oral or written 15 testimony, sworn or unsworn, of a substantive 16 nature which stated with particularity objections 17 to or support for the rule or order that are 18 cognizable within the scope of the provisions and 19 purposes of this chapter. 20 As I said earlier, that is a definition that 21 really entitles an entity to have standing to file 22 a challenge before FLAWAC. Neither the statute nor 23 our rules permit intervention, and that makes sense 24 given the nature of this proceeding. This is a 25 challenge against a rule or an order of a water

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1 management district, so it would be logical that 2 the only proper respondent to this case would be 3 the water management district itself. 4 If any of those entities that had sought to 5 intervene in this case had desired to file their 6 own challenges within the appropriate time frame, 7 they likely would have qualified and had standing 8 to do so, but none of them did. Now they currently 9 only seek to intervene in support of the 10 Respondent. 11 Now as to the intervening parties, the 12 Petitioner objects to their intervention. 13 Respondent also objects to intervention but 14 supports each of their three entities to become 15 amicus curiae to this proceeding. 16 Three other entities have filed motions for 17 leave to submit briefs solely as amicus curiae. 18 Those entities are the joint water management 19 districts, as I mentioned earlier, which support 20 the position of the Respondent; the St. Johns River 21 Keeper, which supports the position of the 22 Petitioner; and the Florida Water Environment 23 Association Utility Council, which supports the 24 position of the Respondent. 25 Given the nature of these proceedings, as I've

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1 mentioned earlier, it appears more appropriate to 2 allow each of these entities to participate as 3 amicus curiae and to accept their briefs into the 4 record for your consideration in evaluating this 5 challenge in this matter. 6 Are there any questions on this point? 7 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: No, I'd just like to 8 make a statement in case -- Governor, may I? I 9 completely agree with Jack's assessment. They 10 will have a voice to be heard. I do not believe 11 that they should be intervening as parties, but 12 they will be heard each by filing an amicus brief. 13 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. So are there going to 14 be any -- does anybody have any questions for Jack 15 before we go on? 16 (NO RESPONSE). 17 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. Are there any speakers 18 for just this section? 19 MR. HEEKIN: There are representatives 20 appearing on behalf of each of the entities, if 21 they would like to make comment. 22 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. 23 MR. HEEKIN: The first is Nicolas Porter, who 24 is appearing on behalf of Seminole County and the 25 Orlando Utilities Commission.

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1 MR. PORTER: We don't have any additional 2 comments. 3 MR. HEEKIN: Chip Merriam, also appearing on 4 behalf of the Orlando Utilities Commission. 5 MR. MERRIAM: Nothing additional. 6 MR. HEEKIN: Okay. Segundo Fernandez on 7 behalf of Toho Water Authority. 8 MR. FERNANDEZ: No additional comments. 9 MR. HEEKIN: Eric Olsen on behalf of the 10 Florida Water Environment Association Utility 11 Council. 12 MR. Olsen: No additional comments. We waive 13 our time in support of the recommendation. 14 MR. HEEKIN: Lisa Rinaman on behalf of St. 15 Johns River Keepers. 16 MS. RINAMAN: I have no comments at this time, 17 but I would like to speak to the merits of the 18 challenge. 19 MR. HEEKIN: Robin Lewis on behalf of PCEC. 20 MR. LEWIS: No additional comments. 21 MR. HEEKIN: Does Mr. Thomas or 22 Ms. Thiebach, do you have any comments you'd like 23 to add to this? 24 MS. THIEBACH: No, thank you. 25 MR. THOMAS: No.

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1 MR. HEEKIN: Okay. 2 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. So is there a motion? 3 Attorney General, did you want to make it? 4 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Do we need to make a 5 motion to -- how should we phrase it, Jack -- to 6 not have the parties intervene; however, they may 7 file -- they each may file an amicus brief? 8 MR. HEEKIN: That's appropriate. 9 GOVERNOR SCOTT: And we accept their briefs 10 into the record? 11 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Absolutely. 12 MR. HEEKIN: Yes. 13 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. So that's the motion. 14 All right. Is there a second? 15 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: The motion is to -- 16 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Deny their motions to 17 intervene. 18 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: -- motion to intervene? 19 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Deny that. They can file 20 amicus briefs and we accept those into the record. 21 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Okay. 22 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. Is there a second? 23 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Second. Oh, I made 24 the motion. 25 CFO ATWATER: Second.

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1 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. Any comments or 2 objections? 3 (NO RESPONSE). 4 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. The motion carries. 5 MR. HEEKIN: Okay. The last item for your 6 consideration is whether to grant relief based on 7 the merits of Petitioner's challenge. First I'll 8 provide a brief overview of this proceeding. 9 Your review in this is appellate in nature, 10 and it is based solely upon the record developed at 11 the Water Management District below during the 12 adoption and presentation of the fourth addendum. 13 There are no facts to be decided by you today. 14 This is purely a legal argument regarding the 15 consistency of the District's order with the 16 requirements and provisions of Chapter 373. By 17 statute, the findings contained in the fourth 18 addendum and the accompanying District staff report 19 are deemed to be undisputed for the purposes of 20 this proceeding unless you, as the Commission, 21 decide to remand this matter to the Water 22 Management District or to refer it to DOAH for 23 further evidentiary proceedings. 24 Now based upon my review of the case and the 25 record below, I do not believe additional

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1 factfinding is necessary, so I don't believe it's 2 necessary to remand or refer this matter for 3 another evidentiary proceeding. I think the 4 record, as it currently exists, is more than 5 sufficient to address the challenges that have been 6 raised by the Petitioner in this case. 7 By rule, oral argument is only allowed if the 8 Commission determines that a portion of the record 9 below needs to be clarified. That's I'm presenting 10 the challenge that has been filed by the Petitioner 11 in this case and not Petitioner himself. If there 12 is an aspect of the record that I referenced that 13 you believe is unclear or needs further 14 clarification, you are more than welcome to ask the 15 parties to come up and explain that individual 16 aspect of the record. But as a matter of right, 17 they're not entitled to make oral argument at the 18 outset. 19 Any oral argument that ultimately is permitted 20 must be based on and specifically referred to the 21 record below. Regardless of whether oral argument 22 is permitted, as I've mentioned earlier, all 23 parties will be permitted an adequate opportunity 24 to make public comment on this item before your 25 vote at the end of this presentation.

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1 To be entitled to relief, Petitioner must 2 allege with particularity and the Commission must 3 find that the fourth addendum conflicts with 4 statutory requirements or is in conflict with the 5 requirements of a duly adopted rule. If, based on 6 Petitioner's challenges, the Commission determines 7 that the fourth addendum conflicts with statute, 8 then the Commission may grant relief based upon the 9 particular violation found. By statute, the 10 Commission may not amend, nullify, or strike out 11 portions of the fourth addendum. It may only 12 direct the Water Management District to initiate 13 rulemaking to assure its future actions are 14 consistent with the provisions and purposes of 15 Chapter 373. 16 Now that's an important limitation on our 17 authority here today as you sitting as FLAWAC so 18 I'll repeat that: By statute, the Commission may 19 not amend, nullify, or strike out portions of the 20 fourth addendum that it finds to be in violation of 21 373. It may only direct the District to initiate 22 rulemaking to ensure that its future actions are 23 consistent with Chapter 373. 24 Turning now to Petitioner's arguments, 25 Petitioner raises three challenges to the fourth

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1 addendum. Now notably these three challenges that 2 are currently before the Commission are 3 substantially similar or identical to objections 4 that Petitioner raised in the proceedings below. 5 Petitioner presented those objections in written 6 comments that were submitted to the District prior 7 to its adoption of the fourth addendum. 8 The District staff report that accompanied the 9 fourth addendum prior to its adoption by the 10 District board specifically referenced and 11 responded to those objections. So that would be 12 helpful if you -- to refer to that as I go through 13 this. 14 Petitioner's challenges are threefold: First, 15 Petitioner challenges the designation of 11 water 16 supply development projects involving surface water 17 withdrawals as alternative water supplies arguing 18 the projects failed to meet the definition of 19 alternative water supplies as that term is defined 20 in Section 373.019(1). 21 Second, Petitioner asserts the fourth addendum 22 was not adopted through a valid public process as 23 required by Section 373.709(1) because the District 24 failed to effectively engage the public in drafting 25 the plan.

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1 And third, Petitioner alleges the fourth 2 addendum fails to make water conservation a 3 priority in the Regional Water Supply Plan. As I 4 mentioned earlier, each of those challenges was 5 raised at the proceedings below and were addressed 6 specifically in the District staff report. 7 Petitioner's first argument relates to the 8 designation of certain surface water withdrawal 9 projects in the fourth addendum as alternative 10 water supplies. Specifically, the Petitioner 11 challenges Projects 7, 8, 10, 12, 61, 62, 63, 64, 12 65, 78, and 79. The term "alternative water 13 supplies" is defined in Section 373.019(1) to mean 14 salt water; brackish surface and groundwater; 15 surface water captured predominantly during wet 16 weather flows; sources made available through the 17 addition of new storage capacity for surface or 18 groundwater; water that has been reclaimed after 19 one or more public supply, municipal, industrial, 20 commercial or agricultural uses; the downstream 21 augmentation of water bodies with reclaimed water; 22 stormwater; and any other water supply source that 23 is designated as nontraditional for a water supply 24 planning region in the applicable Regional Water 25 Supply Plan.

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1 Now reading the plain meaning of that statute 2 as it's written, the definition provides for seven 3 separate water sources that constitute alternative 4 water supplies and includes an eighth catchall 5 provision for any other source that is designated 6 as nontraditional for a planning region. That 7 catchall provision gives deference to a water 8 management district to make a determination of what 9 constitutes a traditional or nontraditional water 10 supply source based upon the unique characteristics 11 of the region over which it has jurisdiction. 12 Petitioner's argument that the water supply 13 projects failed to meet the definition of 14 alternative water supplies is two-fold first. 15 First, Petitioner argues the projects do not meet 16 the definition of alternative water supplies 17 because they are surface water withdrawal projects 18 but the surface water withdrawals are not limited 19 to quantities captured predominantly during wet 20 weather flows. 21 Second, Petitioner argues the projects do not 22 meet the definition of alternative water supplies 23 because surface water withdrawals are not 24 nontraditional water supply sources for the region. 25 At the outset, Petitioner's interpretation of

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1 the statute focuses narrowly on only a single 2 category of alternative water supplies that is 3 defined in Section 373.019(1, to the exclusion of 4 the remaining categories; however, the plain text 5 of the statute provides for eight separate water 6 sources that qualify as alternative water supplies. 7 And I'll read that definition back for you right 8 now: Alternative water supplies under 373.019(1) 9 means salt water; brackish surface and groundwater; 10 surface water captured predominantly during wet 11 weather flows; sources made available through the 12 addition of new storage capacity for surface or 13 groundwater; water that has been reclaimed after 14 one or more public supply, municipal, industrial, 15 commercial or agricultural uses; the downstream 16 augmentation of water bodies with reclaimed water, 17 stormwater and any other water supply source that 18 is designated as nontraditional for a water supply 19 planning region in the applicable Regional Water 20 Supply Plan; therefore, based upon the text of the 21 statute, a water source could be an alternative 22 water supply in accord with Section 373.019(1) even 23 if it does not meet the one category that 24 Petitioner identifies in its argument. 25 Now regarding Petitioner's second line of

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1 argument, specifically that the surface water 2 withdrawals are not nontraditional water supply 3 sources, the District staff report addresses the 4 designation of surface water withdrawals as 5 nontraditional. On Pages 8 and 9 of the District 6 staff report, it states: For water supply planning 7 purposes, the District has recognized and continues 8 in the proposed fourth addendum to recognize fresh 9 groundwater as the only traditional water supply 10 source in its jurisdiction. 11 I'll read that again, and that's important, 12 because as I said earlier, the findings in the 13 District staff report and the fourth addendum 14 itself are deemed to be undisputed facts for the 15 purposes of our proceeding because we have not 16 remanded this to the District or referred it to 17 DOAH for another evidentiary proceeding. Based 18 upon the record as it exists before you, these are 19 undisputed facts. That finding, once again, on 20 Pages 8 and 9 of the District staff report is: For 21 water supply planning purposes, the District has 22 recognized and continues in the proposed fourth 23 addendum to recognize fresh groundwater as the only 24 traditional water supply source in its 25 jurisdiction.

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1 This finding is echoed in the fourth addendum 2 itself on Pages 17 and 18 where the water supply 3 development projects in Appendix N are discussed. 4 The fourth addendum states: All of the water 5 supply development projects in the DWSP 2005, as 6 amended by this fourth addendum, would develop 7 alternative water supplies as defined by Section 8 373.019, Florida Statutes, and all of the options 9 would use water from nontraditional water supply 10 sources. Moreover, the descriptions of the 11 challenged projects themselves support their 12 designation as alternative water supplies. Each 13 proposed project uses a water source that meets at 14 least one category of the definition of alternative 15 water supplies in Section 373.019(1). 16 Project 7, which appears on Page 67 of the 17 fourth addendum, identifies its source of water as 18 fresh surface water which the District deems to be 19 a nontraditional water supply source. 20 Project 8, which appears on Page 71 of the 21 fourth addendum, identifies its water source as 22 brackish surface water, which it deems to be a 23 nontraditional water supply source. 24 Project 10, which appears on Page 76 of the 25 fourth addendum, identifies its water source as

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1 brackish surface water, which it deems to be a 2 nontraditional water supply source. 3 Project 12, which appears on Page 81 of the 4 fourth addendum, identifies its water source as 5 fresh surface water, which it deems to be a 6 nontraditional water supply source and also new 7 storage capacity for ground or surface water 8 utilizing surface water captured predominantly 9 during wet weather flows. 10 Project 61, which appears on Page 87 of the 11 fourth addendum, identifies its water source as 12 fresh surface water, which it identifies as a 13 nontraditional source. 14 Project 62, appearing on Page 92 of the fourth 15 addendum, identifies its water source as brackish 16 surface water, again identified as a nontraditional 17 water source. 18 Project 63, which is on Page 95 of the fourth 19 addendum, identifies its water source as brackish 20 surface water, which is, again, designated as a 21 nontraditional water supply source. 22 Project 64, on Page 99 of the fourth addendum, 23 identifies its water source as brackish surface 24 water, a nontraditional water supply source. 25 Project 65, on Page 104 of the fourth

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1 addendum, identifies its water source as brackish 2 surface water, again, a nontraditional water supply 3 source. 4 Project 78, on Page 139 of the fourth 5 addendum, identifies its water source as reclaimed 6 water from a public supply or municipal use. 7 And Project 79, which appears on Page 164 of 8 the fourth addendum, identifies its source of water 9 as brackish surface water, which is a 10 nontraditional water supply source. 11 Based on the foregoing, it appears Respondent 12 properly identified each project as developing an 13 alternative water supply. Respondent made a 14 specific finding in its fourth addendum that the 15 only traditional water source in its region is 16 fresh groundwater; therefore, all other sources are 17 deemed to be nontraditional for its water supply 18 planning purposes. As I mentioned earlier, this is 19 deemed to be an undisputed finding of fact in that 20 fourth addendum. 21 As stated in Section 373.019(1), a water 22 supply source that is designated as nontraditional 23 for a water supply planning region in the 24 applicable Regional Water Supply Plan is an 25 alternative water supply. Moreover, the majority

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1 of Respondent's -- the majority of Respondent's 2 proposed projects also meet at least one other 3 category to qualify as alternative water supplies. 4 Projects 8, 10, 62, 63, 64, 65, and 79, all 5 propose to develop brackish surface water. 6 Projects 12 and 62 propose to develop new storage 7 capacity for ground or surface waters. And Project 8 78 proposes to use reclaimed water after a public 9 supply or municipal use; therefore, it appears the 10 fourth addendum properly applies the statutory 11 definition of Section 373.019 as it relates to 12 alternative water supplies when it designated those 13 water supply projects as alternative water 14 supplies. 15 Are there any questions on this first point? 16 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Is this the first one? 17 MR. HEEKIN: That was just the first point. 18 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: May I ask a question, 19 Governor? Jack, should we take comment on this 20 one, or do you want to go through all three? 21 MR. HEEKIN: I'll present the merits, which is 22 just a three-fold argument. 23 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: All three, okay. 24 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Let's do all three. 25 MR. HEEKIN: And then we'll do public comment

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1 at the end. 2 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Yeah. 3 MR. HEEKIN: The second argument of Petitioner 4 asserts that Respondent did not conduct a valid 5 public process in its development and adoption of 6 the fourth addendum. A water management district's 7 development of a Regional Water Supply Plan is 8 governed by Section 373.709(1). That subsection 9 states: Regional water supply planning must be 10 conducted in an open public process in coordination 11 and cooperation with local governments; regional 12 water supply authorities; government-owned and 13 privately-owned water and wastewater utilities; 14 multi-jurisdictional water supply entities; self 15 suppliers; reuse utilities; the Department of 16 Environmental Protection; the Department of 17 Agriculture and Consumer Services; and other 18 affected and interested parties. 19 The districts shall actively engage in public 20 education and outreach to all affected local 21 entities and their officials as well as members of 22 the public in the planning process and in seeking 23 input. During preparation but before completion 24 of the Regional Water Supply Plan, the District 25 shall conduct at least one public workshop to

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1 discuss the technical data and modeling tools 2 anticipated to be used to support the Regional 3 Water Supply Plan, and the District shall also hold 4 several public meetings to communicate the status, 5 overall conceptual intent, and impacts of the plan 6 on existing and future reasonable beneficial uses 7 and related natural systems. 8 Petitioner argues the District focused all of 9 its efforts on coordinating with local governments 10 and utilities to meet their needs without 11 effectively engaging the general public in a 12 discussion of what is in the public interest. 13 Now based upon my review of the record, the 14 record below does not support Petitioner's 15 allegation of a deficient public process, and 16 Petitioner does not allege with particularity the 17 individual deficiencies that it believes the 18 District failed to meet in holding its public 19 process. 20 The District staff report directly addresses 21 Petitioner's allegation. On Pages 3 through 8, the 22 District staff report identifies the public 23 meetings, workshops, presentations and public 24 outreach efforts the District engaged in during its 25 regional water supply planning process dating back

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1 to the early 1990s. Regarding the planning and 2 development of water supply projects along the 3 St. Johns and Ocklawaha Rivers in particular, the 4 District staff report states the District held or 5 participated in at least 150 public meetings in the 6 decade preceding the adoption of the fourth 7 addendum. 8 Moreover, the record shows the District held 9 the mandatory public workshop to present the 10 technical data used in drafting the water supply 11 plan on April 6th of 2009, a meeting at which the 12 Petitioner was represented by its president, Karen 13 Ahlers (phonetics). Subsequent to that meeting but 14 before the adoption of the fourth addendum by the 15 District board, two comment letters were submitted 16 on behalf of Petitioner: First an email from Karen 17 Ahlers (phonetics) dated April 7th of 2009; and, 18 second, a letter from John Thomas dated April 20th, 19 2009, setting out the objections to the plan as it 20 was presented. 21 Respondent's staff drafted a response letter 22 to Petitioner's comments which it sent to the 23 Petitioner on May 6th of 2009. And as I mentioned 24 earlier, Respondent's staff also included the 25 specific objections and responses to those

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1 objections in the District staff report itself 2 which accompanied the fourth addendum and was 3 considered by the District board prior to the 4 adoption of the fourth addendum. 5 Lastly, the fourth addendum itself was 6 presented and ultimately adopted by the District 7 board at a publicly noticed meeting on May 12th of 8 2009. Based upon the record below, it appears 9 Respondent properly followed the public process 10 requirements of Chapter 373. 11 Are there any questions on this point? 12 GOVERNOR SCOTT: I don't have any. Anybody 13 else? 14 (NO RESPONSE). 15 MR. HEEKIN: Petitioner's third challenge 16 alleges Respondent failed to make water 17 conservation a priority in the fourth addendum and 18 instead merely included, quote, a lengthy section 19 regarding the District's alledgedly aggressive 20 conservation program. 21 Petitioner's sub -- excuse me -- Petitioner 22 substantiates its claim by citing to Section 23 373.703(1); however, that section relates to the 24 water production in the District board's general 25 powers and duties to assist municipalities and

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1 utilities in its district to plan their water 2 supply needs. 3 The section that governs the District's 4 adoption of a regional water supply plan is 5 373.709. The only reference made to water 6 conservation in Section 373.709, relates to the 7 District's obligation to ensure that total capacity 8 of proposed water supply development projects 9 exceeds the needs of the region taking into account 10 water conservation and other demand management 11 measures. 12 Looking to the record, the District staff 13 report on Pages 9 through 12 outlines the 14 District's conservation efforts and practices. The 15 report references the District's existing 16 consumptive-use permitting program in particular, 17 which includes comprehensive conservation 18 provisions. Additionally, the fourth addendum 19 includes substantive provisions for water 20 conservation on Pages 6 through 13, addressing 21 specific water conservation measures required for 22 consumptive-use permits, watering restrictions for 23 landscape irrigation, and various conservation 24 initiatives and public awareness campaigns in the 25 District.

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1 Petitioner did not substantiate or establish 2 how Respondent's consideration of water 3 conservation in the fourth addendum was deficient. 4 The record below demonstrates the District fully 5 accounted for water conservation in its drafting 6 and adoption of the fourth addendum and the 7 proposal of its water supply development projects; 8 therefore, it appears Respondent has properly met 9 its obligations to take water conservation into 10 account when drafting its fourth addendum and 11 Petitioner's challenge appears to be without 12 merits. 13 Are there any questions on this third 14 challenge? 15 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any questions? 16 (NO RESPONSE). 17 GOVERNOR SCOTT: No. 18 MR. HEEKIN: Okay. At this time I will open 19 the floor for public comment on this matter. I'll 20 start off with Mr. Thomas on behalf of our 21 Petitioner. 22 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: And, Governor, may I 23 just make a statement first? To both sides, I 24 think we all agree that we must stay within the 25 confines of the four corners of the record. And,

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1 Jack, I think you did a great job of doing that. 2 And I would hope that both sides would do that 3 without deviation nor commentary and stick to the 4 record in front of us, on both sides. 5 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you. 6 MR. THOMAS: My comments are going to be 7 limited. Our focus is on what this plan requires 8 the local governments to do. This plan does not 9 have additional or new requirements regarding 10 conservation. There's a discussion of conservation 11 in the District staff report. That's the record at 12 Page 522 to 524. 13 In that discussion, the Water Management 14 District acknowledges that its efforts have been, 15 at times, inconsistent; the response, at times, 16 inadequate. The District goes on to say that they 17 will resume rulemaking to add requirements 18 regarding conservation, but there are no new 19 requirements regarding conservation, there are no 20 new rules requiring conservation. So the District 21 acknowledged that it was not getting what it needed 22 in terms of conservation but the plan requires 23 nothing new. 24 With respect to the definition of alternative 25 water supplies that was read to you a couple of

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1 times, and it's certainly been stated in full in 2 the briefs and other filings, the definition of 3 alternative water supply includes a very specific 4 limitation on the withdrawal of surface waters. 5 Surface water must be captured predominantly 6 during wet weather flows. 7 Now there is a general -- and it was referred 8 to as a catchall provision -- at the end of that 9 definition. But the rules of the statutory 10 interpretation are that if you have a rule or part 11 of a rule that is -- I'm sorry, a statute, part of 12 a statute, which is specific, then a general part 13 of the statute does not undo that, the more 14 specific provision controls. There's also another 15 rule that if the legislation expresses one thing, 16 it may be to the exclusion of the other. 17 So in this case, the statute was very specific 18 in its limitation of surface water withdrawals, as 19 AWS, not that they can't get a permit for a surface 20 water withdrawal, but to be treated as an 21 alternative water supply, it must be captured 22 predominantly during wet weather flow, according to 23 that first provision. And the term "capture" means 24 that they're going to be taking limited amounts of 25 water and putting it in a reservoir, or some form

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1 of storage; that's the concept of capture. 2 So clearly what the statute envisioned was a 3 project like the Alafia River project that is in 4 SWFWMD, where they capture a small amount of flow 5 and they put in an old mine pit that has been 6 converted to a reservoir. So that project was 7 underway while this was going on, and I believe 8 that was the impetus for that provision. 9 You know, I think what the Water Management 10 District's position is that they can just say ipso 11 facto, this is traditional, this is not 12 traditional. Certainly the record reflects that 13 there were surface water withdrawals throughout the 14 districts, and those certainly appear to be 15 traditional; it's hard to say those are 16 nontraditional. 17 But in terms of the definition of AWS, I'm 18 going to stick very closely to the record and to 19 the statute. We have a specific limitation and it 20 is not superseded by the general. The First 21 District Court of Appeal had this matter before 22 them previously, and among other things they said: 23 Statutes will not be interpreted to create an 24 absurd result. There's a citation. I'm going to 25 skip the citations to cases.

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1 It goes on: The language must be given, 2 quote, its plain and ordinary meaning, end quote. 3 And here's a quote that they're taking from another 4 case: Every word, phrase, sentence and part of the 5 statute, if possible, is meant to have effect. The 6 Legislature does not intend to enact useless 7 provisions, and courts should avoid readings that 8 would render a part of a statute meaningless. 9 You're being asked to render the specific 10 limitation on surface water withdrawals 11 meaningless. All AWS need to end up in a regional 12 water supply plan. That's the process. If you 13 want to be funded for a project, it has to get into 14 that regional water supply plan. 15 So to suggest that that catchall phrase trumps 16 the limitation I think is an error. It's an error 17 that you're being asked to make, and we've been to 18 the First District Court of Appeal twice already. 19 I hope we're not going there again. 20 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you. 21 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Can I ask a question, 22 Governor? 23 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Yeah. 24 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: It's not a rhetorical 25 question at all either. Are you saying that AWS is

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1 not discussed within the record or that you don't 2 agree with the alternative water supply discussed 3 in the record? 4 MR. THOMAS: We have a definition -- I'm 5 struggling with your question, pardon me. But we 6 have a definition laid down by the Florida 7 Legislature pursuant to a very public process and a 8 compromise that happened. 9 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Right. 10 MR. THOMAS: I'm asking that you apply the 11 rule of law. The fact that the Water Management 12 District has talked about AWS in a different way 13 does not change the law. And although you may 14 accept findings made by the Water Management 15 District, findings of fact, you're not bound by 16 their findings of law, their conclusions of law. 17 So although they may have concluded that these 18 surface withdrawals were within the definition of 19 AWS, that doesn't make it so. That doesn't -- 20 that's not a finding of fact that you all are bound 21 by. So you need to apply the law as if for the 22 first time. 23 Are these surface withdrawals that are not 24 limited to capture predominantly during wet weather 25 flow, are they legitimately treated as AWS?

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1 Because the definitions suggest otherwise. 2 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Thank you. You did 3 answer my question. 4 MR. THOMAS: Okay. Thank you. 5 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any other questions? 6 (NO RESPONSE). 7 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. Thank you. 8 MS. THIEBACH: Governor Scott, Attorney 9 General Bondi, Chief Financial Officer Atwater, 10 Commissioner of Agriculture Adam Putnam, good 11 afternoon. My name is Veronika Thiebach, and I am 12 here before you on behalf of the St. Johns River 13 Water Management District. 14 St. Johns urges the Commission's order in this 15 matter to include a determination that St. Johns' 16 interpretation of the term "alternative water 17 supplies" is consistent with Chapter 373, Florida 18 Statutes. St. Johns and the other water management 19 districts continue to be engaged in water supply 20 planning, including efforts such as the Central 21 Florida Water Initiative, which involves three 22 water management districts, the Department of 23 Agriculture and Consumer Services, and the 24 Department of Environmental Protection. And this 25 issue will continue to be raised until it is

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1 resolved. 2 The District believes that the definition of 3 alternative water supplies in 373.019 is clear and 4 it is unambiguous. It identifies eight separate 5 categories of water supply sources that are not 6 mutually exclusive. Water supply sources that fall 7 under the first seven categories are considered 8 alternative water supplies that is nontraditional 9 throughout the State of Florida. 10 Water supply sources other than those 11 identified in the first seven categories, such as 12 surface water sources not limited to wet weather 13 flows may qualify as alternative water supplies 14 under the eighth category in those instances where 15 a water management district such as St. Johns has 16 designated such a source as nontraditional for a 17 particular water supply planning region. 18 The fourth addendum, the order at issue here, 19 finds that fresh water, groundwater is the only 20 traditional water supply source in St. Johns' 21 jurisdiction and that all water supply sources 22 other than fresh groundwater are nontraditional 23 water supply sources. This determination, and it's 24 reflected in the fourth addendum, is based on 25 undisputed facts, including that fresh groundwater

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1 has accounted for almost four fifths of total 2 reported water use and that fresh groundwater has 3 been the first source of choice for increased water 4 supplies because it has generally been readily 5 available near the location of use and is 6 relatively inexpensive to treat. 7 That's all sources other than fresh 8 groundwater, including surface water, in the fourth 9 addendum meet the definition of alternative water 10 supplies by falling into one or more of the eight 11 categories of the statute. PCEC's interpretation 12 of the definition of alternative water supplies 13 would effectively elevate one category of 14 alternative water supplies; that is, surface water 15 captured predominantly during wet weather flows 16 over other equal categories of water supplies. 17 For example, water withdrawn from the 18 St. Johns River under several of the project 19 options is considered to be from a brackish water 20 source and also from a source that the District has 21 designated as nontraditional. Thus, even though 22 the source qualifies as alternative water supplies, 23 AWS, under two separate categories in the statute, 24 these project options would need to be limited to 25 wet weather flows under PCEC's erroneous

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1 interpretation. 2 The District submits that that interpretation 3 is unreasonable and renders at least partially 4 meaningless the categories of brackish, surface, 5 and groundwater, and of any other water source that 6 is designated as nontraditional for a water supply 7 planning region in the applicable regional water 8 supply plan. As required by law, the fourth 9 addendum identifies water supply development 10 project options, and for each option, estimates at 11 a planning level the amount of water to become 12 available through the project option. For each 13 project option, applicable water resource 14 constraints, such as MFLs have been explicitly 15 considered. Thus, the plan does not, as some have 16 claimed, designate unlimited amounts of surface 17 water from the St. Johns or Ocklawaha Rivers as 18 available for water supply. 19 Moreover, the fourth addendum clearly notes 20 that depending on which options water supply 21 entities choose to implement may affect the 22 availability of other options. It is thus 23 disingenuous to add up the capacity of these 24 project options and proclaim that the plan 25 authorizes the withdrawal of 300 million gallons

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1 per day out of the St. Johns River System. 2 The projects in the plan are options, and as 3 the fourth addendum emphasizes, consistency of the 4 projects' impacts with water resource constraints 5 should not be interpreted as a determination or 6 application of the St. Johns Water Management 7 District's consumptive-use permitting criteria. 8 Before such a determination can be made, all 9 details of the project's design and operation must 10 be prepared by a permit applicant and the 11 application must be reviewed for all applicable 12 consumptive-use permitting criteria, including MFLs 13 and other Environmental Protection criteria. 14 Since the project options in the fourth 15 addendum involving the St. Johns and Ocklawaha 16 Rivers are intended to meet regional needs in 17 multiple counties, applicable permitting criteria 18 when and if such a project option is proposed in an 19 application would likely also include the 20 consideration of the Local Sources First factors 21 in Section 373.223 paragraph five. The District 22 would consider these factors as part of the 23 determination whether the project is in the public 24 interest. 25 Petitioners have asserted that a project

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1 option designated as alternative water supplies 2 receives a presumption of consistency with the 3 public interest in the consumptive-use permitting 4 process; however, a careful reading of the law 5 shows that there's an important caveat to this 6 presumption. The statutory subsection creating the 7 presumption explicitly states that it does not 8 affect the evaluation of consistency with the 9 public interest under Subsection 373.223(3), which 10 requires consideration of seven public interest 11 factors which are commonly known as Local Sources 12 First. Thus, Petitioner's assertion that the 13 District's interpretation of the alternative water 14 supplies -- of the term alternative water supplies 15 is somehow inconsistent with the Local Sources 16 First provision does not, and pardon the pun, hold 17 water. 18 As Mr. Heekin has noted, this matter is an 19 appellate proceeding and the Commission is acting 20 in a quasi judicial capacity. As such, it should 21 apply accepted principles of statutory 22 construction. These include that if a statute is 23 clear and unambiguous, there is no need for the 24 Commission to discern legislative intent. 25 PCEC's reliance on an editorial opinion piece

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1 written by Senator Dockery for the St. Petersburg 2 Times years after passage of the legislation that 3 included the definition of alternative water 4 supplies is misplaced. Even if the statutory 5 definition were ambiguous and the St. Johns River 6 Water Management District and all of the other 7 water management districts contend that it is not, 8 it still would be inappropriate under accepted 9 decisions -- court decisions for a tribunal, such 10 as the Commission is in this case, to rely on the 11 Senator's opinion piece to discern the intent of 12 the Florida Legislature when it adopted this 13 statute. 14 As stated and explained in the District's 15 answer brief and staff report, the fourth addendum 16 includes water supply development project options 17 it identifies and describes, and they are 18 considered to be consistent with the relevant 19 provisions of 373. As required by statute, the 20 District took into account water conservation in 21 developing the fourth addendum, and the fourth 22 addendum specifically states, quote, analysis 23 indicated a reasonable possibility that a 24 substantial portion of the projected increase in 25 water use between 2005 and 2025 could be met

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1 through improved water use efficiency. And it 2 identifies cost-effective and potentially 3 applicable conservation practices. 4 Ultimately, the addendum reflects a 5 recognition, quote, that it is not a matter of 6 additional water conservation or alternative water 7 supply options, rather, quote, the District 8 concludes that both additional water conservation 9 and alternative water supply project options are 10 needed to achieve water supplies that continue to 11 be reliable for the public while also being 12 environmentally sustainable. 13 Thus, the issue remaining before the 14 Commission at this time is to con -- involves a 15 legal interpretation, whether the fourth addendum 16 is in conflict with Chapter 373, Florida Statutes 17 as alleged by the Petitioners. St. Johns submits 18 that it is not in conflict and it urges the 19 Commission to enter an order accordingly. 20 I'd be happy to answer any questions. 21 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Anyone have any questions? 22 (NO RESPONSE). 23 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Thank you. 24 MR. HEEKIN: Mr. Porter with Seminole County 25 and Orlando Utilities Commission is our next

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1 speaker. 2 MR. PORTER: Good afternoon, Governor Scott 3 and members of the Cabinet. My name is Nick 4 Porter. I'm the attorney for the Orlando Utilities 5 Commission and Seminole County. I'm joined today 6 also by Chip Merriam, who is OUC's Vice President 7 of Legislative Regulatory Compliance and Strategic 8 Planning; and Carol Hunter, who is the director of 9 Seminole County's Department of Environmental 10 Services. 11 The legal issues, I think, have been very 12 thoroughly briefed and very thoroughly addressed 13 for you today. I'd like to speak to the importance 14 of this issue, particularly in central Florida for 15 public water suppliers. 16 This is a region that has a rapidly growing 17 population, that was growing at the time that this 18 addendum was adopted and it's only continued to 19 grow. It's a region where three water management 20 districts divide jurisdiction. It's a region 21 that's been subject to significant planning to make 22 sure that there are sufficient water supplies to 23 address the needs of a growing population, a 24 growing economy in the area. And all of these are 25 appropriate things to take into consideration in

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1 the water supply planning process that the Water 2 Management District has undertaken, in addition to 3 being entirely consistent with the definition of 4 alternative water supplies that has been described 5 to you today. 6 There's been focus on conservation, there's 7 been focus on surface water projects. These are 8 all key aspects that need to be used to address the 9 water supply needs of the state and specifically 10 central Florida going forward, along with things 11 like reclaimed water, additional use of stormwater. 12 And I think the record will show you that all of 13 these items are necessary in order to make sure 14 that we meet the needs as well as protects the 15 environmental resources of the region. 16 So, you know, in particular with regards to 17 Seminole County, they are the project sponsor of 18 what's identified as Item 65, which has been 19 challenged by PCEC. It's a Yankee Lake facility 20 which the county has already begun to develop and 21 use as an alternative water supply to meet a 22 portion of its needs, and it's important that it 23 remain designated as an AWS so the purpose of 24 encouraging the use of these alternative sources 25 can continue to be made going forward in the

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1 planning process. 2 In the case of OUC, the plan identifies them 3 as a sponsor for the Taylor Creek reservoir project 4 which, similarly, is something that's identified as 5 an option to meet the needs going forward. And, 6 again, it's important as just one piece of the 7 puzzle, along with conservation, along with all of 8 the other options that are on the table and 9 available to meet the needs of a growing region, as 10 well as protect the environmental resource values 11 of the area. So thank you very much. 12 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Thank you. 13 MR. HEEKIN: Chip Merriam is also here on 14 behalf of the Orlando Utilities Commission. 15 MR. MERRIAM: Thank you very much, Attorney 16 General Pam Bondi and CFO Atwater, and Commissioner 17 Putnam. Thank you, and I do represent the Orlando 18 Utilities Commission. And we actually do agree 19 with the interpretation that the District has put 20 forward today, and we've worked very closely with 21 the District as they've done their water supply 22 planning and put together their options that we can 23 utilize. 24 In fact, we so believe in their conservation 25 and their requirements that we have modified our

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1 the system over time, and we're currently pumping 2 less water than we did in 1995 for a population 3 that has grown by 43,000 meters. We, additionally, 4 are looking at an alternative water supply 5 opportunity in the Taylor Creek Reservoir, as 6 Mr. Porter just referenced, that is actually a 7 partnership between a county, a water authority, a 8 municipal utility, and agricultural interests which 9 will actually provide the water supply that would 10 be captured at that point. 11 We also clearly recognize that the water that 12 would come out of that is subject to a minimum flow 13 and level requirement. We also know that it is not 14 a given by my means at the planning level. There 15 is a regulatory process that would oversee all of 16 the aspects of any water that would be allocated 17 from that. 18 Today we -- as I said, we believe very much in 19 conservation. Additionally, we have even upgraded 20 our infrastructure to lessen leakage into the 21 system, a very expensive way to approach 22 conservation; but, again, a way that you can be 23 more accountable for the water supply you're using. 24 We've even gone so far in our power generation 25 system to actually include reuse water as our form

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1 to make steam, and we actually bring that back into 2 chilling towers in order to reuse the water over 3 and over again. 4 Again, we believe in the definition and the 5 interpretation and the approach that the water 6 management districts are utilizing this, and I 7 actually say this being an entity that's regulated 8 by two water management districts. Our wellfield 9 is split 50/50 between South Florida and St. Johns 10 River Water Management District; and through 11 agreement, our permits are issued by the St. Johns 12 River Water Management District. 13 And with that, I'll answer any questions you 14 might have. 15 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Does anybody have any 16 questions? 17 (NO RESPONSE). 18 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you. 19 MR. HEEKIN: Next up we have Robin Lewis on 20 behalf of Putnam County Environmental Council. 21 MR. LEWIS: Thank you. My name is Robin 22 Lewis, and I'm a board member of PCEC, and I have 23 with me today another board member, Karen Chadwick; 24 and former president of PCEC, Karen Ahlers 25 (phonetics).

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1 PCEC is an incorporated not-for-profit group, 2 and it was founded in 1998 to promote conservation 3 and restoration of the natural resources of Putnam 4 County, surrounding lands and in other parts of the 5 State of Florida. The volumes of water that are 6 proposed in the fourth addendum and the method of 7 extraction are of grave concern to us and a grave 8 concern to our membership. Because as they're 9 taken, the form that they're taking, the rates, the 10 methods, all affect the natural resources. We're 11 dealing with two very important ecological systems: 12 The Ocklawaha River and the St. Johns River. 13 The Ocklawaha River is the largest tributary 14 to the St. Johns River, and it's connected to 15 Silver Springs. And if you've read any papers -- 16 I'm sure you're all very knowledgeable about the 17 impacts to Silver Springs, about the declines in 18 flows, very significant declines in flows. 19 So our concerns revolve around existing water 20 resources that we use: We fish, we hunt, we 21 observe, we're bird watchers, we're part of the 22 economy too. And what we are concerned about is, 23 going forward, that those resources are adequately 24 managed and managed according to the law. 25 And you've heard a lot of discussion here

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1 about, you know, wet weather withdrawals and what 2 that means, and you may think it's esoteric. In 3 addition to serving as a volunteer with PCEC, I'm 4 an environmental consultant. I'm a certified 5 professional wetland scientist, have been for 30 6 years. And I've been a consultant on things like 7 MFLs and water withdrawals for the South Florida 8 Water Management District and the Southwest Florida 9 Water Management District. 10 So when we talk about wet weather withdrawals, 11 it's not an insignificant statement. It's talking 12 about taking water at times when there may be 13 possibly an excess of water that could be harvested 14 if you plan in advance. And Mr. Thomas 15 specifically mentioned the Alafia River project, 16 which I live down there and was a consultant and 17 supported that project because it was, in fact, a 18 project that took high flows and stored it in a 19 reservoir but let the river run and let the estuary 20 get that water and let the estuarine fish benefit 21 from that water, and let the people benefit from 22 those fish populations. 23 And that's what we're concerned about here. 24 We're talking about resources that are proposed to 25 be tapped 24/7/365 with no real regard -- in spite

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1 of what you heard, MFLs have not been completed and 2 accepted for Silver Springs. MFLs have not been 3 completed and filed for the Ocklawaha River, and 4 yet we're proceeding ahead with developing proposed 5 withdrawal plans that everybody says, well, it's 6 got to go through some permitting at some point, 7 and we're just planning, you know, we're not really 8 going to barge ahead and do these. 9 Well, I disagree with that. As a citizen and 10 paying taxes, I've watched the Water Management 11 District for decades, and I'm concerned. It's my 12 tax money, it's the members of PCEC's tax money 13 that's being proposed to do something that's going 14 to harm our water resources; and we think better 15 care needs to be taken. 16 And I think this question about wet weather 17 withdrawals is not a minor point at all, it is a 18 major point; and it's the best way we could look 19 forward to restoring resources, managing resources 20 and still allowing the water to flow as it needs to 21 flow. And therefore, you know, our request, the 22 petition that we have submitted -- you've already 23 accepted two of the items, which was to accept the 24 jurisdiction and to look into this; but our final 25 request was that the -- that you order that the

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1 St. Johns River Water Management District adopt 2 rules that ensure that future actions are 3 consistent with the provisions of Chapter 373 and, 4 in particular, requiring surface water projects 5 designated as AWS to be limited to capture 6 predominantly during wet weather flows. 7 That is asking them to go back to the drawing 8 table. It's not asking them to toss all these 9 projects out. It's asking them to go back to the 10 real science. I just introduced myself as a 11 wetland scientist to you. I've been a wetland 12 scientist in Florida for almost 50 years. 13 A lot of our streams are damaged, the 14 Ocklawaha River floodplain is damaged because of 15 decreases in flows. Organic soils are oxidizing 16 and going away, trees are toppling, fish 17 populations have been reduced by over 90 percent in 18 the Ocklawaha/Silver Springs system because of 19 mismanagement. 20 We think better management is required, and we 21 are sincerely asking you to go back to the Water 22 Management District and tell them: There's a 23 serious problem here. You need to look into 24 rulemaking specifically to address this question so 25 that these water withdrawals, if and when they

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1 occur, are environmentally sensitive. Thank you 2 very much. 3 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any questions? 4 (NO RESPONSE). 5 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you. 6 MR. HEEKIN: Our next speaker is Segundo 7 Fernandez on behalf of the Toho Water Authority. 8 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Good afternoon. 9 MR. FERNANDEZ: Thank you, Governor, members 10 of the Commission. 11 I'm here representing the Toho Water 12 Authority. We are a utility that serves most of 13 the customers in one of the fastest growing 14 counties in Florida, Osceola County. 15 I think the issue here before you is very 16 simple. This is an appellate procedure. You're 17 not engaged in new factfinding. The basic issue 18 that has been raised has to do with the District's 19 interpretation of the provision in the Florida 20 Statutes dealing with alternative water supplies. 21 Because it is an appellate procedure, the rule of 22 deference applies. 23 The rule of deference is that when a statutory 24 provision has a plain meaning and maybe is 25 acceptable of many interpretations, if the District

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1 chooses one that is reasonable, it is effectively 2 binding because the District is the agency 3 entrusted with the application of that statute. 4 I note that as an appellate proceeding, the 5 relief that is being sought by Putnam County 6 Environmental here is not to engage in rulemaking. 7 Page 21 of their petition for review asks you to 8 strike portions of the water supply plan, and that 9 would not be an allowable action on your part. 10 The environmental concerns that the last 11 speaker addressed are environmental concerns that 12 are excruciatingly dealt with in permitting. 13 Issues of ecological significance of a water body, 14 the impact on productivity, the impact on water 15 quality, all of those things are addressed 16 excruciatingly in an adjudicatory proceeding, not 17 in an appellate case. And I submit to you that 18 those issues are only meant to alarm the Commission 19 from -- into deviating from its appellate role 20 here. So we believe that the District has acted 21 appropriately and that you should reject the relief 22 being requested. Thank you. 23 MR. HEEKIN: Next we have Eric Olsen on behalf 24 of the Florida Water Environment Association 25 Utility Council.

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1 MR. OLSEN: Thank you. Good afternoon, 2 Governor and Cabinet. Thank you so very much for 3 taking the time to consider this at this late hour. 4 We appreciate your patience in hearing us out. 5 I represent the Florida Water Association 6 Utility Council. The Utility Council is a 7 50-member utility organization representing 8 utilities all across the State of Florida. A 9 substantial number of our members provide public 10 water supply service and have consumptive-use 11 permits to withdraw water from various sources, 12 including surface waters, so we are potentially 13 impacted by this decision today. 14 You heard a lot of the legal arguments in this 15 matter. I'm going to focus a bit more on the 16 practical consequences of what the challenges are 17 asking for. 18 The statutes give you a role here today of 19 reviewing a water supply plan to make sure that 20 it's consistent with the provisions and purposes 21 of Florida's water law statute. A water 22 management district develops a water supply plan 23 when it determines that existing sources of water 24 are inadequate to meet projected needs over the 25 next 20 years.

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1 One purpose of the plan is to identify 2 alternative water supply sources that can be used 3 if traditional sources, such as groundwater, are 4 inadequate. Here the St. Johns River Water 5 Management District analyzed existing and future 6 water supply needs and determined that even with 7 additional water conservation, alternative water 8 supply sources were needed. 9 So the District listed, along with various 10 other sources, the use of surface waters as 11 alternative water supply options that could be 12 used. In listing surface water sources as 13 alternative water supply options, the District also 14 checked that the use of water from these sources 15 would not cause environmental harm. 16 So the District's water supply plan, 17 considering both conservation and protection from 18 environmental harm listed these surface water 19 sources as alternative water supply options; 20 however, the Putnam County Environmental Council 21 doesn't like this, thinks this isn't good enough, 22 and wants you to impose an additional limitation on 23 the ability to use these sources. 24 Nothing at all is gained by this additional 25 limitation. The provisions and purposes of

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1 Florida's water law is to promote sufficient water 2 for all existing and future reasonable beneficial 3 uses and natural systems. The Environmental 4 Council's position does not achieve this purpose. 5 All it will do is limit otherwise viable options 6 and increase the cost of providing water to 7 Florida's citizens. 8 As this water supply plan being challenged 9 indicates and as no one disputes, population will 10 grow within this area and water supply needs will 11 accompany that additional growth. Imposing 12 additional unnecessary restrictions on viable water 13 supply options simply limits the availability of 14 those options and increases the cost of providing 15 water in Florida. That, in turn, increases the 16 cost of doing business in Florida, it increases the 17 cost of water to meet Florida's families and 18 citizens. For those reasons, I ask you to reject 19 the Putnam County Environmental Council's position 20 and accept that of the Water Management District 21 in this matter, and I'm happy to answer any 22 questions. 23 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any questions? 24 (NO RESPONSE). 25 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you.

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1 MR. OLSEN: Thank you. 2 MR. HEEKIN: And our final speaker today is 3 Lisa Rinaman on behalf of the St. Johns River 4 Keeper. 5 MS. RINAMAN: Good afternoon, Governor and the 6 Cabinet. Thank you so much for the opportunity to 7 speak today. 8 I am Lisa Rinaman, the St. Johns River Keeper. 9 We are a privately-funded membership organization 10 that focuses on defending, restoring and protecting 11 the St. Johns River on behalf of the citizens who 12 play and work and live along the banks of the 13 St. Johns and her tributaries. 14 We were actually formed more than 16 years 15 ago. We were founded by citizens who were 16 concerned about nutrient pollution that was 17 unfortunately causing toxic algae blooms that 18 deprived us of the right of enjoying the St. Johns 19 River. Luckily, thanks to the State and quite a 20 significant investment in best management 21 practices, we've been able to make improvements. 22 There's less nutrient pollution today than there 23 was. Unfortunately, we haven't gone far enough. 24 Our river is still impaired for too much 25 nitrogen and too much phosphorous as well as heavy

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1 metals, fecal coliform and other issues, and all of 2 us can make a difference if we work together. But 3 the progress we can celebrate has been a 4 significant investment of millions of dollars, of 5 state public dollars, as well as from the Water 6 Management District and from all of the local 7 governments. 8 And so there's a significant concern that this 9 change in alternative water supply definition could 10 undermine not only the water -- the river's health, 11 but also the significant use of public funds. In 12 fact, just recently the Duval delegation voted 13 unanimously to oppose water withdrawals, joining 14 Mayor Lenny Curry and his opposition to water 15 withdrawals in Jacksonville City Council. 16 In fact, since this discussion started in 17 2008, there has been more than 30 resolutions 18 opposed to the harmful water withdrawals. And the 19 reason we believe they're unsustainable, as you 20 start pulling more fresh water out, especially 21 when you're looking at this more broad definition, 22 it undermines the basic kidneys of the St. Johns 23 River because it does damage to critical wetlands 24 and submerged grasses which are the filters of this 25 water pollution that can actually help us achieve

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1 all of the efforts that we are doing, trying to 2 improve the water quality of not only the St. Johns 3 and other rivers throughout the State of Florida. 4 They say it's a reasonable interpretation, but 5 the Legislature very carefully scripted a path 6 forward on how surface water could sustainably be 7 used as alternative water supply. And that was 8 captured predominantly during wet weather flow, so 9 way at a high level where there could be excess 10 water that would not damage these natural resources 11 and protect the long-term viability of these 12 natural systems as well as our water supply and 13 water-use needs. 14 What the District is looking at is using water 15 level above minimum flows and levels, and all of 16 those protections are not in place. It's a huge 17 shift in the definition. We do not believe it's 18 reasonable and that we ask that you send this back 19 for further consideration and help focus on looking 20 at long-term solution instead of a short-term 21 solution that is before you in front of the water 22 supply plan. 23 We also believe that they failed to meet the 24 Florida Statute's intent on making water 25 conservation a priority. In earlier drafts, they

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1 were looking at providing more than 252 million 2 gallons a day to be met by water conservation. 3 That's more than enough water to be met using 4 conservation, which is a cheaper more sustainable, 5 a more conservative choice for the State of 6 Florida. 7 If this definition is allowed to move forward, 8 there will be a cost, and that cost will be the 9 local governments in the downstream communities 10 that were not a part of the process, have not been 11 a part of the 150 meetings. There needs to be a 12 holistic approach involving the whole region, and 13 we ask for your consideration and ask for this to 14 be sent back for rulemaking to meet the intent of 15 Florida Statute. Thank you for your time today. 16 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Thank you. 17 MR. HEEKIN: I believe that concludes our 18 public comment and now comes for a vote before the 19 Commission. 20 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Okay. So the -- and the 21 staff recommendation is? 22 MR. HEEKIN: The staff recommendation is, 23 based upon the specific challenges that were filed 24 by Petitioner in the record of the proceedings 25 below, the fourth addendum appears to be consistent

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1 with the provisions and purposes of Chapter 373; 2 and therefore, Petitioner's challenges are without 3 merit. 4 GOVERNOR SCOTT: So your recommendation is 5 that we deny Petitioner's request for relief? 6 MR. HEEKIN: That's correct, Governor. 7 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Governor, if I may. 8 Our job here is very limited. Once again, we have 9 to rely on the record, and I think Jack Heekin made 10 a very good documentation of the record quoting, 11 citing pages, the addendums. Both sides have valid 12 points they can argue, you know, all day long on if 13 it's enough, if they think they need additional 14 alternative water supplies. But the record that we 15 are referring to, those are listed in the record; 16 is that correct? 17 MR. HEEKIN: That's correct. 18 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: As well as a water 19 conservation -- that water conservation is a 20 priority? 21 MR. HEEKIN: It doesn't specifically say it's 22 a priority, but there are substantive water 23 conservation measures found in the fourth addendum 24 and in the District staff report itself. 25 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: And then as to

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1 Number 2, I don't think anyone is disagreeing that 2 there was a public process, correct? 3 MR. HEEKIN: The Petitioner would disagree. 4 But, no, based upon my review of the record, yes, 5 the public process met the requirements of 6 Chapter 373. 7 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Is there a 8 motion? Commissioner, do you have a question? 9 COMMISSIONER PUTNAM: Just a brief comment. I 10 appreciate the nature of this debate. I've spent a 11 career trying to make water policy interesting, and 12 all of you attorneys have set us back a good bit on 13 that objective. But, you know, I've -- we don't 14 have a lot of Black's Laws dictionaries laying 15 around the Ag Commissioner's office but, you know, 16 within the four corners of this, as I've listened 17 to what our specific appellate role here is, it 18 becomes pretty clear. But the larger issues need 19 to be dealt with, which is that to support the 20 quality of life that we all love here in Florida, 21 whether it's on our rivers, our estuaries, our 22 springs, our lakes, our Gulf, our Atlantic, our 23 Keys, and to meet a 1.3-billion-gallon-per-day 24 shortfall estimated statewide, and it's 25 particularly intense in the central Florida area

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1 where the three water management districts come 2 together, we're going to have to resolve these 3 issues in a -- both with resources and with better 4 public policy. 5 And so we certainly appreciate the efforts of 6 everybody who came together to make their argument. 7 And if you listen to all of the arguments, we're 8 all in the same boat, which is that we're not going 9 to be able to keep sticking more straws in the 10 ground and withdrawing from the aquifer. We are 11 going to have to invest in alternative water 12 supplies, we are going to have to reclaim more 13 water; and all of those many, many options about 14 how we get there, with an emphasis on conservation, 15 is going to be how we sustain the Florida that we 16 love, support a hundred million tourists a year and 17 new residents and new industries that we all would 18 like to see come. 19 So I appreciate the efforts that everybody has 20 put into this. We look forward to working with you 21 on getting the policy right because there's a lot 22 of overlap on the policy, and hopefully we'll spend 23 more time getting the policy right and less time 24 suing each other. 25 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Is there a

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1 motion? 2 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: I'm trying to phrase 3 the motion. A motion to deny the Petitioner's 4 request? 5 MR. HEEKIN: It would be a denial of the 6 petition on the merits and finding the fourth 7 addendum is consistent with the provisions and 8 purposes of 373, if that's as you would like to 9 present it. 10 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: I'll take that. 11 GOVERNOR SCOTT: All right. Is there a 12 second? 13 CFO ATWATER: Second. 14 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Any comments or objections? 15 (NO RESPONSE). 16 GOVERNOR SCOTT: Hearing none, the motion 17 carries. 18 That concludes today's meeting. Our next 19 meeting will be here on October 27th. 20 ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI: Governor, can I just 21 say one more thing? Thank you all for exercising 22 such complete civility given such an emotional 23 issue with the environment. I mean all sides, you 24 were all just so incredibly professional, and I 25 hope you can work together for our environment.

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1 Thank you. We don't always see that. Thank you. 2 (WHEREUPON, THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED). 3 4 5 * * * * 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

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1 CERTIFICATE 2 3 STATE OF FLORIDA ) COUNTY OF LEON ) 4 5 I, NANCY S. METZKE, RPR, FPR, certify that I was authorized to and did stenographically report the 6 foregoing proceedings and that the transcript is a true and complete record of my stenographic notes. 7 DATED this 10th day of October, 2015. 8 9 10 ______11 NANCY S. METZKE, RPR, FPR Court Reporter 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

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$ 104 [1] - 190:25 1990s [1] - 195:1 144:21 36-year [1] - 31:18 108 [1] - 2:14 1991 [2] - 28:23, 48:9 2025 [1] - 210:25 360 [1] - 69:8 $1,000 [1] - 12:25 10th [3] - 76:21, 1992 [2] - 29:8, 38:7 203 [1] - 21:16 373 [13] - 163:16, $1,871,000 [1] - 162:9, 235:7 1995 [1] - 215:2 204 [1] - 21:16 181:16, 183:15, 120:18 11 [5] - 11:17, 11:18, 1996 [1] - 27:20 20th [2] - 96:17, 183:21, 183:23, $10 [1] - 154:11 76:24, 77:25, 184:15 1998 [2] - 28:24, 195:18 196:10, 204:17, $120 [1] - 41:25 11,000 [1] - 37:11 217:2 21 [3] - 11:18, 11:24, 210:19, 211:16, $130 [1] - 126:21 111 [1] - 2:16 19th [1] - 96:18 222:7 220:3, 230:1, 231:6, $15,000 [1] - 21:4 116 [1] - 43:22 1st [6] - 4:11, 10:1, 21,946 [1] - 35:15 233:8 $16 [1] - 130:18 12 [6] - 120:12, 10:4, 12:21, 13:3, 22 [2] - 7:19, 28:8 373.019 [3] - 189:8, $2,250,000 [1] - 138:5, 185:11, 190:3, 20:19 23rd [1] - 111:8 192:11, 205:3 96:12 192:6, 197:13 24 [1] - 65:6 373.019(1 [5] - $20,000 [1] - 45:10 12,000 [1] - 38:16 2 24-hour [1] - 136:22 185:13, 187:3, 187:8, $200 [1] - 120:8 120 [1] - 37:9 24/7/365 [1] - 218:25 187:22, 191:21 $247 [1] - 114:18 12th [2] - 164:12, 2 [15] - 19:24, 25:24, 25 [2] - 2:9, 126:3 373.019(1) [2] - $3,095,000 [1] - 91:4 196:7 35:2, 76:14, 76:17, 252 [1] - 229:1 184:20, 189:15 $3,750,000 [1] - 96:8 13 [4] - 28:16, 95:17, 95:18, 108:17, 259.053 [2] - 105:13, 373.114 [3] - 164:19, $35.70 [1] - 139:2 130:25, 131:3, 197:20 111:18, 142:16, 105:22 165:22, 175:24 142:20, 142:24, $36 [1] - 139:3 130 [1] - 126:22 259.1053(5)(d [1] - 373.223 [1] - 208:21 154:22, 162:19, 231:1 $4,095,000 [1] - 133 [2] - 132:1, 132:2 105:10 373.223(3 [1] - 209:9 90:25 138.8 [1] - 151:16 2,000 [1] - 121:11 26 [2] - 10:23, 10:25 373.703(1 [1] - 2.3 [1] - 151:14 $5,000 [1] - 68:24 139 [1] - 191:4 26,000 [1] - 30:25 196:23 20 [3] - 27:21, 62:14, $6,690,000 [1] - 91:6 14 [2] - 41:10, 88:6 27 [1] - 126:20 373.709 [2] - 197:5, 223:25 $600,000 [1] - 45:9 140 [2] - 38:14, 38:15 27th [3] - 79:3, 197:6 20-year [1] - 164:1 [1] $700,000 [1] - 114:19 1439 [1] - 132:4 79:18, 233:19 373.709(1 - 200 [3] - 113:25, 184:23 $900 [1] - 37:20 14th [1] - 166:14 28 [1] - 29:11 15 [2] - 12:2, 65:23 140:11, 140:13 28-24 [1] - 111:20 373.709(1) [1] - 2000 [1] - 168:8 193:8 ' 15-minute [1] - 76:11 285,000 [1] - 40:20 [5] 150 [3] - 2:18, 195:5, 2005 - 162:22, 286.0114 [1] - 170:11 38 [1] - 10:22 163:18, 164:11, '14/'15 [1] - 81:10 229:11 29 [4] - 1:13, 30:3, 380.0552(4)(b [1] - 189:5, 210:25 '15/'16 [1] - 122:2 151 [1] - 2:20 137:18, 137:20 115:9 2006 [1] - 125:15 '60 [1] - 65:8 153 [1] - 43:23 29th [1] - 3:4 385 [1] - 12:22 2008 [1] - 227:17 '61 [2] - 64:24, 65:8 157 [1] - 43:22 3rd [1] - 12:19 2009 [8] - 164:8, 158 [1] - 43:21 3 164:12, 164:17, 1 15A-1.016 [1] - 6:1 4 195:11, 195:17, 15C-21 [1] - 6:19 3 [14] - 5:24, 21:15, 195:19, 195:23, 196:8 4 [15] - 2:3, 10:10, 1 [22] - 4:10, 10:10, 15th [1] - 3:6 22:12, 33:2, 35:20, 2012 [4] - 115:1, 22:10, 22:12, 36:9, 12:9, 19:11, 25:11, 16 [2] - 88:1, 226:14 77:11, 87:17, 109:17, 115:20, 125:18, 77:13, 80:1, 90:11, 33:11, 43:20, 49:12, 162 [1] - 2:23 112:8, 142:16, 77:4, 90:15, 90:25, 164:24 103:16, 142:18, 164 [1] - 191:7 142:20, 142:24, 95:23, 99:2, 108:8, 2013 [3] - 56:1, 155:22, 194:21 143:7, 156:15, 17 [2] - 111:20, 189:2 111:7, 142:16, 113:14, 146:2 3,550 [1] - 114:5 156:21, 156:23 17.4 [1] - 122:1 142:20, 142:24, 2014 [11] - 79:1, 30 [3] - 35:25, 218:5, 40 [1] - 140:13 18 [3] - 80:22, 151:19, 154:6, 162:8, 90:15, 95:23, 112:10, 42-2 [1] - 175:25 113:18, 189:2 227:17 170:8 112:13, 113:15, 30-day [1] - 11:25 43,000 [1] - 215:3 19 [1] - 2:7 1,286-acre [1] - 115:10, 119:17, 300 [4] - 114:11, 44 [1] - 27:6 190 [1] - 121:20 90:12 125:10, 125:25, 129:4 140:11, 140:14, 46 [3] - 91:7, 113:20, 1920s [1] - 91:10 1,617.46 [1] - 96:2 2014/15 [2] - 9:25, 207:25 158:16 1940s [1] - 97:1 1,617.46-acre [1] - 12:3 305 [3] - 43:21, 44:2, 49 [2] - 2:12, 42:23 1942 [1] - 27:5 95:18 2015 [19] - 1:13, 47:7 49,000 [1] - 37:15 1946 [1] - 31:3 1.3-billion-gallon- 10:1, 11:10, 11:19, 3093 [1] - 1:22 4th [1] - 49:19 1947 [1] - 27:5 per-day [1] - 231:23 19:12, 25:12, 25:25, 30th [2] - 10:1, 10:4 1948 [1] - 31:19 26:11, 26:16, 26:20, 1.32 [1] - 151:15 31 [1] - 26:12 5 1960 [1] - 64:24 1.5 [1] - 96:8 32:14, 76:21, 79:1, 31st [1] - 164:24 1961 [1] - 65:11 79:2, 111:8, 126:15, 5 [12] - 10:12, 36:12, 10 [7] - 38:16, 65:22, 32 [2] - 65:11 1979 [1] - 122:10 162:9, 235:7 43:20, 77:17, 132:17, 73:16, 77:25, 185:11, 32315-3093 [1] - 1:23 1984 [1] - 134:1 2015/16 [1] - 14:16 142:17, 142:21, 189:24, 192:4 34 [1] - 11:10 1985 [2] - 31:19, 2016 [3] - 11:11, 142:24, 156:15, 10,000 [1] - 12:24 35 [1] - 96:14 31:24 20:19, 147:7 156:21, 156:23 1000 [2] - 97:15, 350 [1] - 91:15 1990 [1] - 48:9 2023 [2] - 114:6, 5,000 [1] - 130:11 141:18 36 [1] - 124:16

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50 [4] - 63:18, 65:16, 71 [2] - 130:7, 189:20 99-percent [1] - 40:1 44:15, 46:16, 50:12, 129:1, 129:3, 129:9, 91:17, 220:12 75 [1] - 29:6 51:17, 51:24, 60:3, 134:11, 134:18, 50-member [1] - 75,000 [1] - 121:22 A 60:4 135:1, 136:17, 142:5 223:7 76 [2] - 120:18, accessing [1] - Acquisition [1] - 50/50 [1] - 216:9 189:24 abandoned [1] - 37:17 95:24 51 [2] - 98:16, 99:7 77 [2] - 80:24, 80:25 131:24 accident [1] - 130:9 acquisitions [7] - 520 [1] - 131:25 78 [3] - 185:12, abatement [1] - accompanied [2] - 77:12, 80:14, 80:17, 522 [1] - 199:12 191:4, 192:8 166:11 184:8, 196:2 80:22, 81:11, 81:12, 524 [1] - 199:12 79 [3] - 185:12, Abbey [1] - 3:6 accompany [1] - 81:14 54 [1] - 10:22 191:7, 192:4 abeyance [4] - 225:11 acres [5] - 78:23, 5th [4] - 10:8, 19:12, 7th [1] - 195:17 164:20, 164:23, accompanying [1] - 78:24, 88:17, 96:2, 25:12, 108:9 165:1, 166:7 181:18 96:20 8 ability [8] - 13:13, accomplish [6] - acronym [1] - 172:17 6 38:6, 39:10, 41:1, 47:17, 47:18, 101:25, Act [7] - 27:10, 94:7, 8 [9] - 11:15, 39:15, 42:1, 92:5, 145:2, 102:1, 135:1, 135:2 94:10, 118:7, 122:8, 6 [7] - 10:16, 10:20, 77:22, 185:11, 188:5, 224:23 accomplishing [1] - 122:12, 154:24 16:16, 36:24, 105:5, 188:20, 189:20, able [14] - 38:10, 115:17 acted [1] - 222:20 157:7, 197:20 192:4, 194:21 38:25, 41:16, 42:12, accomplishments acting [3] - 55:21, 6,000 [1] - 121:17 8,000 [1] - 121:10 47:14, 50:21, 50:23, [1] - 28:25 158:14, 209:19 6.47 [1] - 96:13 80 [2] - 84:5, 124:10 69:2, 75:15, 81:4, accord [1] - 187:22 action [7] - 33:22, 60 [1] - 140:14 800 [3] - 12:22, 101:24, 121:18, accordance [5] - 56:14, 58:16, 85:16, 60-year-old [1] - 130:6, 130:16 226:21, 232:9 76:20, 77:8, 87:21, 88:2, 145:5, 222:9 135:20 81 [1] - 190:3 absolute [2] - 42:19, 116:3, 143:15 actions [6] - 113:5, 61 [2] - 185:11, 82 [1] - 113:16 86:21 according [3] - 142:24, 156:1, 190:10 85 [2] - 81:3, 81:9 absolutely [2] - 97:11, 200:22, 217:24 183:13, 183:22, 220:2 62 [4] - 185:11, 850 [2] - 1:23 80:11, 180:11 accordingly [1] - active [8] - 28:10, 190:14, 192:4, 192:6 86 [8] - 28:4, 92:24, absorbed [1] - 52:19 211:19 28:20, 30:2, 30:13, 6200 [3] - 125:3, 98:11, 99:12, 101:5, abstaining [1] - 5:16 Accordingly [1] - 32:9, 56:8, 82:18, 127:2, 127:10 102:5, 102:11, 113:19 abstention [1] - 5:21 5:16 91:14 63 [5] - 11:20, 114:1, 87 [4] - 31:16, 80:23, absurd [1] - 201:24 account [3] - 197:9, actively [3] - 55:25, 185:11, 190:18, 192:4 80:25, 190:10 accept [36] - 17:16, 198:10, 210:20 57:6, 193:19 64 [4] - 113:17, 40:4, 73:1, 79:12, accountability [2] - activities [4] - 42:9, 185:11, 190:22, 192:4 9 85:24, 104:21, 76:18, 79:20 60:9, 97:3, 113:12 65 [4] - 185:12, 115:10, 115:15, accountable [4] - activity [5] - 76:1, 190:25, 192:4, 213:18 9 [8] - 2:5, 39:23, 116:5, 119:21, 147:3, 16:13, 82:1, 98:14, 154:25, 167:23, 67 [1] - 189:16 77:25, 100:12, 165:11, 165:13, 215:23 168:10, 173:12 69 [1] - 92:22 164:17, 188:5, 165:22, 167:3, 167:5, accounted [2] - acts [1] - 165:4 690-154.202 [1] - 188:20, 197:13 167:18, 167:21, 198:5, 206:1 actual [2] - 44:13, 21:16 9,303 [1] - 96:20 169:14, 169:20, Accounting [1] - 62:13 690-157.302 [1] - 9,303-acre [1] - 170:2, 170:6, 170:9, 78:9 actuarial [2] - 20:5, 22:12 95:20 170:20, 170:24, accurate [1] - 47:24 20:25 690-166.031 [1] - 90 [21] - 80:5, 80:13, 170:25, 171:13, achieve [5] - 14:3, ad [1] - 126:25 23:10 80:20, 81:14, 81:23, 172:8, 173:23, 40:12, 211:10, 225:4, ADAM [1] - 1:11 174:15, 178:3, 180:9, 697-8314 [1] - 1:23 82:2, 82:15, 82:19, 227:25 Adam [1] - 204:10 180:20, 203:14, 697-8715 [1] - 1:23 84:6, 84:8, 84:25, achieved [1] - add [6] - 5:3, 139:11, 219:23, 225:20 6th [2] - 195:11, 96:15, 99:24, 100:16, 115:18 174:1, 179:23, acceptable [2] - 195:23 100:18, 100:22, acknowledged [3] - 199:17, 207:23 101:12, 101:15, 159:6, 221:25 72:18, 119:14, 199:21 added [1] - 72:2 acceptance [5] - 7 101:18, 102:17, acknowledges [1] - addendum [68] - 220:17 79:19, 85:18, 85:19, 199:14 162:22, 163:18, 85:20, 85:22 7 [6] - 11:12, 38:19, 91 [7] - 92:24, 99:11, acquire [5] - 77:13, 164:11, 164:13, 77:18, 158:4, 185:11, 99:20, 100:12, accepted [4] - 90:18, 96:1, 121:19, 164:22, 168:8, 189:16 100:14, 100:20, 209:21, 210:8, 219:2, 136:24 168:10, 169:1, 219:23 7,000 [1] - 31:20 113:22 acquisition [25] - 181:12, 181:18, 7.65 [1] - 153:7 91,558 [1] - 35:22 accepting [3] - 80:4, 80:19, 82:5, 183:3, 183:7, 183:11, 7.7 [1] - 151:16 92 [1] - 190:14 169:24, 170:24, 82:7, 82:11, 82:12, 183:20, 184:1, 184:7, 171:12 7.75 [1] - 152:2 95 [2] - 39:25, 190:18 83:13, 91:1, 96:8, 184:9, 184:21, 185:2, accepts [1] - 167:12 70 [2] - 84:5, 113:23 97 [1] - 11:14 96:19, 113:11, 114:8, 185:9, 188:8, 188:13, access [11] - 28:13, 70-percent [1] - 98 [1] - 11:14 118:12, 122:3, 188:23, 189:1, 189:4, 119:14 99 [1] - 190:22 37:19, 42:15, 42:20, 122:17, 128:8, 128:9, 189:6, 189:17,

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189:21, 189:25, 40:11, 41:16, 173:15, Advisor [1] - 29:9 agency [14] - 14:14, 195:17, 216:24 190:4, 190:11, 217:23 advisor [2] - 11:21, 36:25, 38:3, 47:9, aids [2] - 35:11, 190:15, 190:19, adjacent [1] - 88:14 165:4 90:23, 96:6, 117:14, 35:12 190:22, 191:1, 191:5, ADJOURNED) [1] - advocate [3] - 30:14, 117:17, 168:4, aiming [1] - 101:12 191:8, 191:14, 234:2 32:6, 32:10 168:19, 169:8, Air [2] - 28:7, 31:18 191:20, 192:10, adjudicated [2] - Affairs [11] - 2:9, 170:13, 173:7, 222:2 aircraft [1] - 31:21 193:6, 195:7, 195:14, 34:6, 36:5 25:5, 25:9, 26:17, Agency's [7] - 13:18, Alafia [2] - 201:3, 196:2, 196:4, 196:5, adjudication [1] - 29:2, 30:18, 32:1, 14:11, 33:2, 40:5, 218:15 196:17, 197:18, 33:16 33:15, 36:5, 39:18, 42:11, 43:9, 43:13 alarm [1] - 222:18 198:3, 198:6, 198:10, ADJUDICATORY [2] 83:23 agenda [20] - 4:9, algae [1] - 226:17 205:18, 205:24, - 150:1, 162:1 affairs [1] - 130:2 9:24, 19:11, 25:10, align [1] - 40:11 206:9, 207:9, 207:19, adjudicatory [1] - AFFAIRS [1] - 25:1 49:11, 49:19, 49:21, alive [1] - 65:5 208:3, 208:15, 222:16 affect [5] - 92:4, 58:15, 79:4, 79:19, alledgedly [1] - 210:15, 210:21, Adjudicatory [4] - 167:25, 207:21, 93:6, 111:7, 133:20, 196:19 210:22, 211:4, 2:18, 2:22, 150:7, 209:8, 217:10 148:23, 151:6, allegation [2] - 211:15, 212:18, 162:6 affected [3] - 176:14, 159:11, 159:12, 194:15, 194:21 217:6, 229:25, adjustments [2] - 193:18, 193:20 160:10, 162:8, 166:17 allege [2] - 183:2, 230:23, 233:7 44:10, 47:17 affecting [5] - Agenda [3] - 25:11, 194:16 addendums [1] - Adjutant [1] - 29:10 130:21, 132:8, 25:24, 33:2 alleged [2] - 173:15, 230:11 ADMINISTRATION 139:22, 173:11 Agent [1] - 34:5 211:17 adding [1] - 132:8 [2] - 111:1, 151:1 affects [2] - 63:5, agent [3] - 105:9, alleges [2] - 185:1, addition [6] - 155:4, Administration [11] - 172:5 105:14, 105:24 196:16 173:2, 185:17, 2:15, 2:20, 111:4, affiliations [1] - agents [1] - 135:17 allegiance [1] - 3:10 187:12, 213:2, 218:3 111:6, 115:2, 115:21, 27:24 ages [1] - 74:18 ALLEGIANCE [1] - additional [29] - 115:22, 123:6, affirmation [1] - aggressive [3] - 3:13 11:6, 13:15, 38:16, 148:23, 151:9, 157:9 159:7 44:17, 136:17, 196:19 allocated [1] - 41:21, 45:23, 45:24, Administration's [1] AFFIRMATIVE [1] - aggressively [1] - 215:16 47:23, 53:4, 73:15, - 39:19 105:3 45:15 allocating [1] - 88:8, 119:17, 125:21, Administrative [2] - affirming [1] - ago [7] - 36:25, 50:4, 113:20 127:23, 179:1, 179:5, 6:6, 176:1 155:23 50:25, 63:18, 134:14, Allocation [1] - 179:8, 179:12, administrative [4] - affordability [1] - 137:20, 226:15 122:22 179:20, 181:25, 23:12, 49:17, 109:18, 123:25 agony [1] - 132:12 allocation [6] - 199:9, 211:6, 211:8, 125:8 affordable [6] - agree [10] - 104:2, 114:4, 115:6, 116:2, 213:11, 224:7, administrators [1] - 118:17, 120:17, 104:6, 106:23, 169:4, 143:14, 144:21, 145:4 224:22, 224:24, 62:7 123:10, 123:14, 170:6, 174:22, 178:9, allocations [4] - 225:11, 225:12, adopt [3] - 21:23, 123:16, 132:2 198:24, 203:2, 214:18 116:8, 121:7, 121:13, 230:13 115:3, 220:1 Afghanistan [2] - agreed [2] - 15:20, 141:6 additionally [6] - adopted [11] - 21:21, 34:17, 41:14 120:6 allow [7] - 42:25, 127:7, 144:23, 22:22, 23:17, 115:6, afternoon [27] - 90:4, agreement [8] - 64:2, 88:11, 116:7, 175:14, 197:18, 163:12, 164:11, 90:6, 90:7, 97:18, 20:24, 90:18, 90:20, 131:13, 167:8, 178:2 215:3, 215:19 183:5, 184:22, 196:6, 111:5, 112:11, 92:6, 96:1, 96:3, allowable [2] - address [18] - 5:2, 210:12, 212:18 112:18, 119:4, 157:17, 216:11 121:12, 222:9 10:17, 11:2, 13:9, adoption [16] - 6:2, 124:22, 124:23, agreements [1] - allowed [2] - 182:7, 14:10, 58:12, 88:7, 6:21, 9:14, 22:11, 124:24, 129:22, 105:16 229:7 113:8, 123:22, 125:6, 23:10, 113:3, 162:22, 129:23, 133:6, 133:7, agricultural [5] - allowing [2] - 128:13, 129:8, 181:12, 184:7, 184:9, 133:8, 133:18, 94:13, 97:3, 185:20, 124:13, 219:20 144:13, 156:2, 182:5, 193:5, 195:6, 195:14, 133:19, 137:13, 187:15, 215:8 allows [8] - 29:22, 212:23, 213:8, 220:24 196:4, 197:4, 198:6 137:14, 163:6, Agriculture [6] - 37:19, 38:22, 39:2, addressed [8] - Adora [1] - 67:11 171:17, 204:11, 90:21, 96:4, 105:7, 39:3, 42:1, 94:12, 16:19, 51:10, 52:21, advance [5] - 58:16, 212:2, 221:8, 223:1, 193:17, 204:10, 98:1 88:8, 185:5, 212:12, 122:6, 137:3, 170:10, 226:5 204:23 alluded [1] - 44:10 222:11, 222:15 218:14 Ag [1] - 231:15 AGRICULTURE [1] - alma [1] - 40:15 addresses [2] - advanced [1] - age [1] - 130:6 1:11 almost [4] - 71:12, 188:3, 194:20 125:22 agencies [8] - 8:11, ahead [13] - 33:9, 132:5, 206:1, 220:12 addressing [3] - adversely [2] - 92:4, 15:1, 47:8, 57:2, 57:4, 67:25, 76:15, 79:25, alone [1] - 124:8 77:20, 169:10, 197:20 132:7 57:11, 59:24, 61:6 126:14, 150:3, alternative [58] - adds [1] - 172:22 advertisement [1] - Agency [8] - 39:18, 151:15, 153:7, 159:1, 11:4, 97:24, 168:22, adequate [2] - 159:4 40:2, 40:3, 40:8, 166:25, 170:4, 219:4, 168:24, 169:7, 163:22, 182:23 advise [2] - 55:22, 41:22, 78:5, 87:22, 219:8 172:18, 184:17, adequately [4] - 57:10 87:23 Ahlers [3] - 195:13, 184:19, 185:9,

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185:12, 186:3, Andrew [1] - 38:7 applicants [1] - 11:1 19:24, 21:15, 22:11, 182:17, 182:19, 186:14, 186:16, Annex [1] - 137:19 application [7] - 23:9, 25:13, 32:13, 182:21, 185:7, 186:22, 187:2, 187:6, announce [1] - 10:13, 16:7, 168:21, 43:12, 85:12, 90:17, 186:12, 187:24, 187:8, 187:21, 189:7, 116:13 208:6, 208:11, 95:25, 108:8, 109:19, 188:1, 192:22, 193:3, 189:12, 189:14, announced [1] - 208:19, 222:3 111:7, 126:17, 232:6 191:13, 191:25, 93:23 applications [5] - 151:19, 154:9, arguments [3] - 192:3, 192:12, annual [21] - 14:24, 10:24, 10:25, 11:3, 154:22, 155:22, 183:24, 223:14, 232:7 192:13, 199:24, 15:7, 15:13, 22:17, 11:21, 158:16 157:7, 159:14, 162:8, arm [1] - 49:17 200:3, 200:21, 203:2, 76:18, 78:7, 78:8, applies [2] - 192:10, 173:2, 173:4, 173:6 armed [1] - 46:23 204:16, 205:3, 205:8, 78:20, 79:6, 79:21, 221:22 approve [12] - 10:21, Army [4] - 27:5, 29:9, 205:13, 206:9, 112:11, 112:14, apply [4] - 14:25, 37:12, 47:4, 88:12, 70:20, 127:8 206:12, 206:14, 115:4, 115:11, 121:9, 203:10, 203:21, 95:11, 104:9, 142:23, arrangements [1] - 206:22, 209:1, 124:14, 134:4, 209:21 142:24, 154:13, 105:17 209:13, 209:14, 143:22, 145:21, applying [1] - 113:11 155:6, 159:22, 160:9 array [1] - 44:23 210:3, 211:6, 211:9, 146:2, 146:4 appointment [2] - approved [13] - 10:7, arrive [1] - 45:25 213:4, 213:21, annums [1] - 143:23 8:2, 159:7 76:21, 77:9, 80:2, arrived [1] - 164:9 213:24, 215:4, answer [7] - 75:12, appraisal [16] - 80:20, 88:16, 95:23, arrives [1] - 144:22 221:20, 224:2, 224:7, 92:12, 204:3, 210:15, 80:23, 91:5, 92:19, 96:17, 104:11, arrow [1] - 47:2 224:11, 224:13, 211:20, 216:13, 92:22, 92:25, 98:11, 155:24, 156:19, artifacts [2] - 52:17, 224:19, 227:9, 228:7, 225:21 98:16, 99:11, 100:6, 160:18, 172:22 72:23 230:14, 232:11 answers [2] - 51:12, 100:22, 101:13, approves [1] - 36:21 asbestos [5] - 53:20, alternatives [1] - 55:6 101:16, 101:18, approving [4] - 54:21, 55:19, 55:20, 124:7 anticipated [2] - 101:23, 102:2, 102:5 36:25, 38:3, 160:7, 72:12 amazed [1] - 117:16 21:19, 194:2 appraisals [7] - 172:14 ASCS [2] - 122:14, ambiguous [1] - anticipating [1] - 99:21, 100:13, April [6] - 10:1, 10:4, 123:15 210:5 44:5 101:10, 102:6, 195:11, 195:17, ash [1] - 153:11 amend [5] - 6:1, anyway [1] - 145:25 102:12, 102:13, 195:18 Ash [5] - 151:3, 6:19, 143:12, 183:10, Aon [2] - 152:24, 102:18 Aquatic [1] - 78:16 151:6, 151:20, 183:19 160:21 appraised [4] - 80:3, aquifer [1] - 232:10 159:11, 161:5 amended [2] - 21:23, apnea [1] - 35:11 82:16, 99:18, 101:20 Arabia [1] - 63:21 aside [3] - 68:23, 189:6 Appeal [5] - 165:16, appreciate [17] - 8:4, archeological [1] - 69:5, 86:23 amendment [1] - 172:1, 172:10, 14:9, 17:10, 61:20, 51:14 aspect [3] - 59:13, 6:23 201:21, 202:18 64:5, 66:23, 83:13, archived [2] - 31:5, 182:12, 182:16 Amendment [1] - appeal [1] - 145:5 86:23, 112:22, 125:5, 51:15 aspects [2] - 213:8, 99:2 appealed [1] - 133:21, 134:1, 142:7, archives [3] - 58:10, 215:16 amendments [1] - 165:15 223:4, 231:10, 232:5, 58:18, 63:11 asserted [1] - 208:25 23:10 appear [2] - 169:11, 232:19 archiving [2] - 52:17, assertion [1] - America [1] - 32:12 201:14 appreciated [2] - 74:12 209:12 America's [1] - 63:23 appeared [1] - 86:21 128:15, 132:21 area [13] - 12:14, asserts [2] - 184:21, American [2] - 28:16, appearing [4] - approach [5] - 93:14, 29:18, 77:10, 96:25, 193:4 30:24 178:20, 178:24, 94:11, 215:21, 216:5, 122:9, 125:4, 125:9, assess [2] - 39:20, Americans [1] - 27:9 179:3, 190:14 229:12 128:17, 128:18, 50:21 amicus [10] - 167:10, appellate [8] - 181:9, appropriate [11] - 212:24, 214:11, assessment [9] - 171:22, 175:9, 209:19, 221:16, 52:10, 54:7, 54:17, 225:10, 231:25 10:7, 12:5, 13:10, 175:16, 177:15, 221:21, 222:4, 74:16, 83:23, 145:20, Area [8] - 112:10, 15:14, 40:8, 79:12, 177:17, 178:3, 222:17, 222:19, 153:14, 177:6, 178:1, 115:13, 119:12, 79:15, 79:17, 178:9 178:12, 180:7, 180:20 231:17 180:8, 212:25 133:24, 135:25, assessments [2] - amount [5] - 56:16, appendix [1] - appropriated [1] - 136:2, 138:13, 143:21 14:17, 126:25 81:23, 154:10, 201:4, [2] 164:12 120:10 areas - 124:1, assets [1] - 75:23 207:11 [3] 134:19 Appendix [1] - 189:3 appropriately - assigned [1] - amounts [2] - APPLAUSE) [2] - 47:16, 58:20, 222:21 Areas [1] - 78:16 113:24 200:24, 207:16 7:15, 8:19 appropriation [1] - arena [1] - 62:8 assignment [2] - amp [1] - 79:10 applicable [11] - 52:11 argue [2] - 84:24, 29:9, 30:10 analysis [2] - 52:4, [2] 21:22, 88:15, 168:7, appropriations - 230:12 assist [3] - 16:23, 210:22 185:24, 187:19, 38:24, 122:17 argues [4] - 176:10, 114:9, 196:25 analyze [1] - 20:5 [1] 191:24, 207:7, approvable - 186:15, 186:21, 194:8 assistance [4] - analyzed [1] - 224:5 207:13, 208:11, 173:10 arguing [1] - 184:17 36:4, 42:10, 46:2, analyzing [1] - 20:12 208:17, 211:3 approval [32] - 4:11, argument [14] - 77:18 AND [5] - 1:4, 3:12, applicant [2] - 11:5, 4:22, 5:25, 6:2, 6:21, 169:11, 169:13, assisted [1] - 39:13 9:14, 10:14, 19:11, 4:1, 150:1, 162:1 208:10 181:14, 182:7, assisting [1] - 28:12

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associated [4] - 192:18, 192:23, 120:6, 168:12 balancing [1] - behalf [28] - 20:7, 41:6, 42:3, 45:11, 198:22, 202:21, authorize [3] - 29:20, 120:22 20:13, 20:22, 36:10, 127:20 202:24, 203:9, 204:2, 105:23, 168:9 Banker [1] - 129:20 49:15, 50:8, 67:11, association [1] - 214:12, 230:7, authorized [6] - 60:4, banks [1] - 226:12 67:17, 105:21, 119:8, 105:18 230:18, 230:25, 88:2, 105:8, 120:11, bar [1] - 43:19 157:17, 178:20, Association [7] - 233:2, 233:10, 233:20 167:23, 235:5 Barbara [1] - 112:24 178:24, 179:4, 179:7, 21:20, 32:12, 175:18, attorney [2] - 162:24, authorizes [1] - barge [1] - 219:8 179:9, 179:14, 177:23, 179:10, 212:4 207:25 base [2] - 34:14, 179:19, 195:16, 222:24, 223:5 attorneys [1] - authorizing [1] - 140:2 198:20, 204:12, assume [1] - 121:16 231:12 173:12 based [29] - 35:3, 214:14, 216:20, assure [1] - 183:13 attracted [1] - 75:3 availability [4] - 35:6, 36:15, 43:19, 221:7, 222:23, 226:3, ate [1] - 62:19 attribute [1] - 65:3 51:24, 126:14, 49:19, 68:14, 114:3, 226:11 Atlantic [1] - 231:22 Atwater [9] - 9:10, 207:22, 225:13 114:15, 164:1, 165:7, behind [1] - 147:19 atrocities [1] - 62:10 25:7, 49:9, 61:15, available [14] - 165:10, 167:22, believer [1] - 70:6 attempt [1] - 65:13 64:21, 81:7, 112:21, 58:19, 58:21, 60:18, 174:14, 176:1, 181:6, believes [2] - 194:17, attend [3] - 37:20, 204:9, 214:16 74:13, 121:11, 181:10, 181:24, 205:2 44:19, 44:20 ATWATER [43] - 123:18, 126:3, 182:20, 183:5, 183:8, below [12] - 11:24, attendance [1] - 1:10, 4:16, 5:13, 6:12, 136:13, 185:16, 186:10, 187:20, 167:23, 181:11, 163:3 9:18, 15:23, 15:25, 187:11, 206:5, 188:17, 191:11, 181:25, 182:9, attended [1] - 65:5 17:12, 21:9, 23:2, 207:12, 207:18, 214:9 194:13, 196:8, 182:21, 184:4, 185:5, attention [4] - 12:14, 24:2, 49:25, 55:17, avenue [1] - 52:15 205:24, 229:23, 231:4 194:14, 196:8, 198:4, 77:21, 158:9, 158:11 57:12, 57:15, 57:22, average [9] - 10:12, baseline [2] - 35:3, 229:25 Attorney [15] - 9:9, 59:25, 72:16, 83:3, 10:20, 11:16, 11:23, 35:21 Ben [2] - 108:4, 55:11, 61:14, 64:12, 86:7, 86:12, 87:5, 47:3, 80:2, 80:22, basic [4] - 70:14, 110:6 64:21, 66:24, 67:10, 87:7, 95:7, 95:10, 114:17, 130:6 70:15, 221:17, 227:22 benchmarks [1] - 69:20, 81:6, 103:4, 104:10, 104:17, avert [1] - 136:18 basis [6] - 22:17, 45:1 160:3, 170:4, 180:3, 105:1, 106:10, avoid [2] - 11:3, 93:16, 127:14, beneficial [3] - 204:8, 214:15 108:10, 109:23, 202:7 147:16, 158:14, 159:2 163:23, 194:6, 225:2 ATTORNEY [95] - 111:11, 112:1, award [2] - 33:13, Battle [1] - 30:23 benefit [10] - 42:21, 1:9, 4:14, 5:11, 6:10, 142:25, 154:16, 114:11 Beach [16] - 32:5, 50:20, 61:4, 78:6, 7:2, 9:17, 9:19, 9:21, 155:7, 156:7, 157:1, awarded [1] - 20:25 115:6, 115:24, 116:2, 124:19, 127:16, 15:10, 15:20, 17:18, 157:23, 160:15, awards [1] - 31:23 129:18, 130:1, 130:5, 136:25, 156:17, 19:16, 21:7, 22:3, 162:14, 180:25, aware [7] - 53:9, 130:12, 132:7, 218:20, 218:21 22:25, 23:25, 25:16, 233:13 68:6, 68:13, 68:15, 143:10, 143:20, benefits [14] - 21:24, 32:18, 48:18, 55:12, Atwater's [1] - 66:24 112:15, 128:25, 143:25, 144:19, 28:14, 32:7, 35:8, 55:18, 57:16, 57:20, audience [1] - 92:8 171:25 145:2, 145:8, 147:6 37:14, 37:17, 37:20, 59:10, 64:9, 64:13, Audit [4] - 157:8, awareness [1] - Beach's [1] - 143:13 42:9, 42:16, 45:12, 71:24, 85:15, 85:19, 157:10, 157:13, 158:6 197:24 bear [5] - 52:8, 45:16, 46:2, 46:6, 85:21, 86:3, 87:9, Auditing [1] - 155:23 AWS [12] - 172:17, 91:25, 92:2, 97:12, 46:9 87:12, 89:6, 95:4, Audubon [2] - 92:14, 172:22, 200:19, 98:23 Bennett [2] - 26:22, 95:14, 99:3, 101:1, 93:3 201:17, 202:11, beaten [1] - 65:3 27:4 101:4, 101:21, 103:6, aught [1] - 66:17 202:25, 203:12, beatings [1] - 65:4 best [12] - 42:19, 103:15, 103:19, augmentation [2] - 203:19, 203:25, beautiful [4] - 56:2, 46:1, 52:21, 58:12, 103:25, 104:15, 185:21, 187:16 206:23, 213:23, 220:5 56:3, 131:21, 140:25 58:22, 73:2, 77:15, 106:8, 106:20, August [3] - 19:12, Aye [2] - 104:15, become [2] - 177:14, 84:16, 86:11, 157:11, 106:23, 108:12, 25:12, 108:9 104:17 207:11 219:18, 226:20 109:25, 111:13, Augustine [1] - aye [1] - 104:16 becomes [1] - better [13] - 11:4, 112:3, 143:2, 147:13, 108:18 231:18 17:3, 45:1, 68:9, 78:5, 148:10, 148:16, authorities [1] - B beds [1] - 39:1 95:1, 138:15, 152:9, 149:1, 154:14, 155:9, 193:12 beekeeping [1] - 152:16, 153:23, 155:14, 155:17, Authority [5] - Babcock [4] - 90:10, 97:4 219:14, 220:20, 232:3 156:9, 156:24, 175:14, 176:10, 105:6, 105:12, 106:2 began [1] - 31:18 between [11] - 47:6, 157:21, 160:2, 160:4, 179:7, 221:7, 221:12 backed [1] - 63:10 begin [7] - 3:5, 83:24, 87:2, 101:13, 160:17, 160:25, authority [12] - 60:1, background [2] - 51:22, 52:4, 52:22, 101:14, 102:6, 162:12, 170:5, 87:23, 88:3, 88:4, 106:1, 159:5 58:22, 72:22, 129:7 102:12, 134:10, 170:16, 171:1, 88:7, 105:15, 145:13, backing [1] - 81:16 beginning [3] - 210:25, 215:7, 216:9 171:11, 171:16, 163:13, 170:9, backstop [1] - 144:1 71:16, 73:8, 151:17 beyond [1] - 66:5 173:25, 174:16, 171:13, 183:17, 215:7 bad [2] - 72:9, 75:2 begins [2] - 60:17, big [4] - 47:5, 61:24, 174:25, 178:7, 180:4, authorization [5] - balance [3] - 121:6, 76:1 65:21, 67:15 180:11, 180:23, 50:4, 111:19, 111:23, 151:15, 158:23 begun [1] - 213:20 Big [4] - 90:14,

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91:19, 95:22, 96:21 32:18, 48:18, 55:12, 190:15, 190:19, Buchenwald [1] - 124:25, 128:12, bigger [1] - 65:24 55:18, 57:16, 57:20, 190:23, 191:1, 191:9, 30:25 129:25, 133:9, 135:8, Bill [5] - 37:14, 59:10, 64:9, 64:13, 192:5, 206:19, 207:4 buckshot [1] - 66:17 137:15, 151:11, 112:12, 112:17, 71:24, 85:15, 85:19, Bracy [3] - 129:18, budget [4] - 30:8, 171:17, 212:3, 223:2, 116:11, 144:12 85:21, 86:3, 87:9, 133:5, 133:10 36:21, 36:22, 93:23 226:6 bill [1] - 122:11 87:12, 89:6, 95:4, BRACY [2] - 133:6, build [3] - 39:2, CABINET [3] - 1:4, billion [3] - 139:17, 95:14, 99:3, 101:1, 133:8 121:18, 137:24 1:9, 1:14 151:16 101:4, 101:21, 103:6, brand [2] - 48:5, buildable [1] - Cabinet's [2] - 14:22, billions [1] - 139:15 103:15, 103:19, 131:17 123:18 87:21 bills [1] - 40:2 103:25, 104:15, break [3] - 54:14, building [12] - 65:20, calculate [2] - 98:17, binding [1] - 222:2 106:8, 106:20, 150:9, 150:12 65:21, 65:22, 114:3, 98:18 biodiversity [1] - 106:23, 108:12, breaking [1] - 86:18 115:4, 116:1, 121:7, calculation [1] - 91:22 109:25, 111:13, Breakspear [2] - 2:5, 121:11, 125:20, 139:16 bird [1] - 217:21 112:3, 143:2, 147:13, 9:4 131:6, 131:24, 143:14 calen [1] - 85:14 birthday [1] - 3:7 148:10, 148:16, BREAKSPEAR [8] - buildings [4] - 65:18, calendar [2] - 149:1, 154:14, 155:9, bit [4] - 86:18, 9:6, 9:9, 9:23, 15:9, 72:9, 74:18, 75:4 151:13, 151:17 152:10, 223:15, 155:14, 155:17, 15:11, 15:21, 16:25, built [7] - 32:4, Camp [2] - 30:25, 231:12 156:9, 156:24, 17:23 124:15, 131:20, 34:13 157:21, 160:2, 160:4, black [3] - 91:25, Brian [2] - 129:19, 131:23, 138:4, 139:2, campaign [1] - 44:17 92:2, 97:12 160:17, 160:25, 135:10 141:7 campaigns [1] - 162:12, 170:5, Black's [1] - 231:14 brief [10] - 31:2, Bulge [1] - 30:23 197:24 170:16, 171:1, bless [1] - 71:18 88:21, 105:25, bulk [1] - 33:12 Campbell [3] - 26:23, 171:11, 171:16, blind [1] - 54:1 133:20, 165:6, burden [2] - 63:2, 27:12, 27:21 173:25, 174:16, blooms [1] - 226:17 178:12, 180:7, 181:8, 121:22 Campbell's [1] - 174:25, 178:7, 180:4, blowup [1] - 153:25 210:15, 231:9 burdened [1] - 27:15 180:11, 180:23, board [8] - 54:21, BRIEF [2] - 76:12, 127:19 canal [3] - 118:16, 192:18, 192:23, 170:13, 184:10, 150:13 burial [2] - 52:10, 128:9, 135:2 198:22, 202:21, 195:15, 196:3, 196:7, briefed [1] - 212:12 62:15 candidates [2] - 202:24, 203:9, 204:2, 216:22, 216:23 briefly [6] - 27:2, burn [1] - 34:17 158:17 214:12, 230:7, Board [24] - 2:11, 33:5, 71:25, 77:1, burned [1] - 78:24 candnreporters. 230:18, 230:25, 2:20, 27:23, 43:23, 92:15, 164:8 bury [2] - 68:18, 69:2 com [1] - 1:24 233:2, 233:10, 233:20 49:11, 49:15, 49:18, briefs [9] - 165:2, business [6] - 22:20, cap [1] - 115:4 Bondi [9] - 9:10, 79:8, 79:9, 79:12, 165:7, 175:10, 26:6, 40:6, 84:21, capability [1] - 42:11 25:7, 49:9, 61:14, 88:23, 89:17, 105:9, 175:15, 177:17, 225:16 capacity [9] - 39:2, 64:21, 81:6, 112:20, 105:13, 105:22, 178:3, 180:9, 180:20, businesses [1] - 79:7, 185:17, 187:12, 204:9, 214:16 105:23, 108:21, 200:2 12:13 190:7, 192:7, 197:7, Bondi's [1] - 66:24 108:25, 121:23, brighter [1] - 53:12 businessmen [1] - 207:23, 209:20 bonds [3] - 109:19, 147:7, 151:8, 157:8, bring [9] - 53:11, 138:11 capital [4] - 12:13, 126:18, 154:12 157:17, 158:5 54:3, 57:3, 74:5, 80:8, buy [6] - 84:8, 84:17, 125:14, 126:18, border [2] - 95:21, BOARD [2] - 49:1, 109:11, 144:1, 157:9, 84:19, 101:19, 104:4, 127:24 96:21 151:1 216:1 145:14 CAPITOL [1] - 1:15 bordered [1] - 90:13 board's [1] - 196:24 bringing [1] - 102:3 buying [1] - 84:13 captain [2] - 26:22, borders [1] - 91:18 boat [1] - 232:8 brings [1] - 94:15 BY [1] - 1:17 27:4 bottom [1] - 88:13 bodies [8] - 62:12, broad [3] - 29:4, capture [7] - 45:21, bought [1] - 137:19 62:14, 62:16, 66:6, 57:25, 227:21 C 58:23, 200:23, 201:1, bound [2] - 203:15, 68:17, 185:21, 187:16 broadened [1] - 201:4, 203:24, 220:5 203:20 body [6] - 60:22, 50:13 C-Pap [1] - 35:10 captured [9] - box [1] - 118:3 66:18, 68:24, 68:25, broader [1] - 152:19 Cabinet [45] - 3:4, 185:15, 186:19, BOX [1] - 1:22 69:1, 222:13 broke [2] - 132:10, 15:1, 15:2, 25:12, 187:10, 190:8, 200:5, Boy [1] - 61:17 bombers [1] - 31:21 132:13 33:24, 45:6, 45:7, 200:21, 206:15, Boys [6] - 49:14, BOND [1] - 108:1 broken [1] - 78:20 49:17, 51:3, 55:5, 215:10, 228:8 62:4, 62:6, 63:22, bond [1] - 154:6 bronze [1] - 31:23 57:7, 67:23, 73:1, captures [2] - 10:17, 64:3, 64:24 Bond [2] - 2:13, brother [2] - 65:9, 76:20, 76:22, 79:3, 35:23 boys [6] - 56:21, 108:5 69:12 79:16, 79:18, 82:12, caracara [1] - 97:9 62:24, 64:23, 65:1, BONDI [95] - 1:9, brother's [1] - 65:4 83:25, 87:6, 87:7, cards [1] - 5:7 65:10, 66:11 4:14, 5:11, 6:10, 7:2, brothers [1] - 74:3 90:3, 92:12, 93:2, care [10] - 22:13, BPAS [1] - 128:23 9:17, 9:19, 9:21, brought [3] - 49:18, 102:4, 108:7, 116:22, 22:14, 26:7, 39:20, brackish [12] - 15:10, 15:20, 17:18, 54:24, 122:6 117:14, 119:7, 42:2, 42:19, 45:17, 185:14, 187:9, 19:16, 21:7, 22:3, brushed [1] - 66:23 119:25, 121:23, 52:17, 93:11, 219:15 189:22, 190:1, 22:25, 23:25, 25:16, brutally [1] - 65:3 123:7, 124:12, Care [1] - 39:18

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career [8] - 27:8, 187:2, 187:23, 106:10, 108:10, charge [1] - 86:15 115:24, 129:18, 29:11, 31:3, 31:8, 189:14, 192:3, 109:23, 111:11, charged [2] - 55:3, 129:19, 133:10, 31:18, 37:22, 133:25, 205:14, 206:13 112:1, 112:21, 73:2 133:11, 133:13, 231:11 Catholic [1] - 3:11 142:25, 154:16, Charles [9] - 26:22, 133:15, 133:17, careers [1] - 35:1 cattle [2] - 91:14, 155:7, 156:7, 157:1, 26:24, 27:4, 28:4, 133:22, 134:3, 134:6, careful [1] - 209:4 95:20 157:23, 160:15, 64:18, 97:15, 97:17, 140:16, 143:10, carefully [2] - 140:7, causing [1] - 226:17 162:14, 180:25, 137:11, 141:18 143:12, 143:14, 228:5 caveat [3] - 140:6, 214:16, 233:13 charter [2] - 157:8, 147:4, 227:15 caring [2] - 28:18, 140:7, 209:5 CFO's [1] - 49:20 157:10 City's [1] - 116:1 42:3 Cay [1] - 137:25 Chadwick [1] - cheaper [1] - 229:4 civic [4] - 26:5, Carl [1] - 154:1 CEFP [1] - 108:23 216:23 check [4] - 12:17, 27:25, 29:1, 31:10 Carol [4] - 129:18, ceiling [1] - 82:20 Chair [1] - 49:23 12:19, 12:22, 13:5 civil [1] - 135:12 133:5, 133:10, 212:8 celebrate [1] - 227:3 challenge [17] - check-cashing [2] - civility [1] - 233:22 carries [30] - 4:20, celebrating [1] - 3:6 44:12, 48:2, 48:3, 12:17, 13:5 claim [9] - 33:14, 5:21, 6:16, 7:8, 17:22, cemetery [4] - 65:7, 121:4, 163:11, 164:4, checked [2] - 33:16, 36:4, 45:9, 19:22, 21:13, 22:9, 65:9, 66:12 166:10, 176:5, 158:22, 224:14 45:10, 45:23, 45:24, 23:7, 24:7, 25:22, center [1] - 76:1 176:22, 176:25, checks [1] - 12:25 196:22 32:24, 87:13, 89:10, centers [3] - 42:22, 178:5, 179:18, 181:7, Chief [13] - 26:23, claimed [3] - 54:16, 106:14, 108:16, 46:14, 123:16 182:10, 196:15, 28:3, 28:6, 61:14, 75:14, 207:16 110:4, 111:17, 112:7, central [3] - 212:14, 198:11, 198:14 64:21, 66:24, 71:8, claiming [1] - 34:3 143:6, 148:21, 213:10, 231:25 challenged [7] - 157:14, 157:15, claims [15] - 23:12, 154:20, 155:13, Central [1] - 204:20 163:17, 167:24, 157:16, 158:10, 23:15, 34:1, 36:9, 156:13, 157:5, 158:2, ceremoniously [2] - 168:16, 169:5, 158:13, 204:9 36:17, 41:7, 41:23, 162:18, 175:5, 181:4, 71:15, 71:16 189:11, 213:19, 225:8 chief [1] - 28:3 44:18, 44:22, 45:3, 233:17 ceremony [2] - 71:7 challenges [23] - CHIEF [1] - 1:10 45:4, 46:5, 48:5, Carruthers [2] - certain [3] - 60:11, 41:6, 41:17, 41:18, child [1] - 66:16 136:19 116:17, 119:3 172:14, 185:8 42:3, 42:13, 43:3, children [8] - 40:25, clarification [1] - 97:25, 128:13, CARRUTHERS [1] - certainly [15] - 15:3, 56:21, 68:20, 71:9, 182:14 119:5 16:22, 72:25, 97:21, 164:21, 164:25, 71:10, 71:14, 131:20 clarified [1] - 182:9 case [29] - 48:6, 102:9, 129:4, 134:3, 168:20, 177:6, 182:5, Chiles [3] - 26:24, clarify [1] - 88:6 98:24, 161:3, 163:8, 142:3, 145:23, 147:8, 183:6, 183:25, 184:1, 28:21, 28:22 Clark [1] - 81:4 184:14, 184:15, 163:17, 164:5, 164:7, 148:7, 200:1, 201:12, chilling [1] - 216:2 CLARK [6] - 81:6, 185:4, 185:11, 164:17, 164:19, 201:14, 232:5 chip [2] - 179:3, 81:19, 81:22, 82:4, 223:16, 229:23, 230:2 165:5, 165:14, certainty [1] - 145:11 214:13 82:17, 82:24 champion [1] - 67:22 165:23, 166:7, 167:4, CERTIFICATE [1] - Chip [1] - 212:6 class [7] - 25:25, chance [3] - 7:17, 167:5, 167:12, 235:1 choice [4] - 130:8, 26:11, 26:16, 26:20, 50:24, 60:6 172:11, 177:2, 177:5, certificate [2] - 6:20, 158:24, 206:3, 229:5 32:14, 33:22, 39:6 Chandler [2] - 178:8, 181:24, 182:6, 6:24 choose [2] - 147:9, clear [7] - 51:1, 68:7, 182:11, 200:17, 158:13, 158:18 certification [1] - 207:21 68:9, 141:13, 205:3, change [10] - 5:1, 202:4, 210:10, 214:2, 37:22 chooses [2] - 209:23, 231:18 222:17 6:5, 6:23, 17:8, 21:18, certified [1] - 218:4 169:14, 222:1 clearer [1] - 14:11 cases [10] - 34:5, 104:1, 104:5, 155:3, certify [2] - 38:17, chose [2] - 31:8, clearly [4] - 142:2, 203:13, 227:9 34:7, 34:9, 34:11, 235:5 170:14 201:2, 207:19, 215:11 34:13, 41:12, 52:6, changed [2] - 37:1, cetera [4] - 83:20, circumstances [2] - Clearwater [1] - 37:2 88:7, 165:20, 201:25 158:7, 158:8, 158:22 82:3, 82:4 31:16 cashed [1] - 12:25 changes [7] - 20:13, CFO [63] - 4:8, 4:16, citation [1] - 201:24 client [1] - 172:19 cashers [2] - 12:19, 21:19, 36:17, 87:24, 5:13, 6:12, 7:25, 9:10, citations [1] - 201:25 clinics [2] - 42:23, 12:22 139:21, 152:13, 157:7 9:18, 15:23, 15:24, citing [2] - 196:22, 46:14 cashing [2] - 12:17, 15:25, 17:1, 17:12, chapter [7] - 29:18, 230:11 close [9] - 53:12, 13:5 53:10, 53:12, 53:13, 21:9, 23:2, 24:2, 25:7, citizen [2] - 16:10, 60:8, 63:14, 69:15, 55:1, 74:23, 176:19 casket [1] - 66:17 49:9, 49:24, 49:25, 219:9 91:19, 96:22, 121:20, catchall [4] - 186:4, Chapter [13] - 6:1, 53:7, 55:14, 55:17, citizens [5] - 8:13, 128:3, 151:13 111:20, 163:16, 186:7, 200:8, 202:15 57:12, 57:15, 57:21, 225:7, 225:18, closed [2] - 62:3, 175:25, 181:16, catchup [1] - 147:15 57:22, 59:10, 59:25, 226:11, 226:15 81:11 183:15, 183:23, categories [9] - 67:10, 69:21, 71:8, Citrus [1] - 29:18 closely [2] - 201:18, 54:15, 187:4, 205:5, 196:10, 204:17, 72:6, 72:16, 74:9, city [3] - 130:2, 214:20 211:16, 220:3, 230:1, 205:7, 205:11, 81:7, 83:3, 86:4, 86:7, 130:8, 134:19 closing [3] - 17:3, 206:11, 206:16, 231:6 86:12, 87:5, 87:7, City [22] - 39:14, 43:6, 77:16 characteristics [1] - 206:23, 207:4 95:7, 95:10, 104:10, 113:19, 113:21, Coastal [1] - 78:16 186:10 category [7] - 33:12, 104:17, 105:1, 115:11, 115:18, coastal [1] - 123:25

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coasts [2] - 124:9, 170:14, 174:7, 173:14, 204:14 Commons [1] - 31:6 completing [2] - 124:10 178:21, 182:24, COMMISSIONER communicate [1] - 125:12, 126:6 Code [1] - 176:1 192:19, 192:25, [75] - 1:11, 7:4, 9:6, 194:4 completion [2] - code [1] - 54:25 195:15, 198:19, 9:9, 9:20, 9:23, 14:20, communicated [1] - 128:4, 193:23 cognizable [1] - 229:18, 231:9 15:9, 15:11, 15:19, 89:19 complex [2] - 42:3, 176:18 commentary [1] - 15:21, 16:25, 17:20, communicating [1] - 59:14 cohort [1] - 41:4 199:3 17:23, 19:7, 19:18, 60:18 compliance [13] - Coldwell [1] - 129:20 comments [50] - 19:23, 21:14, 22:5, communities [9] - 37:3, 37:5, 37:9, coliform [1] - 227:1 4:17, 5:18, 6:13, 7:5, 22:10, 23:8, 24:8, 32:11, 39:9, 78:22, 37:10, 38:17, 39:16, colleague [1] - 30:17 17:14, 19:19, 21:10, 25:18, 32:20, 43:17, 97:6, 120:7, 123:11, 40:1, 77:11, 77:18, colleagues [1] - 22:6, 23:3, 24:3, 46:24, 48:10, 48:14, 123:22, 127:18, 229:9 78:1, 125:7, 128:23, 52:25 25:19, 32:21, 44:11, 53:6, 73:4, 73:18, community [29] - 157:10 collecting [1] - 20:11 48:17, 53:5, 57:22, 74:7, 79:24, 80:1, 27:18, 27:25, 28:2, Compliance [4] - collection [4] - 31:5, 87:11, 88:24, 88:25, 80:15, 80:21, 81:16, 30:6, 30:21, 31:12, 157:14, 158:10, 125:16, 125:22, 126:7 89:7, 95:5, 98:7, 98:9, 81:20, 81:24, 82:13, 34:15, 34:21, 39:6, 158:13, 212:7 collectively [1] - 106:11, 108:13, 82:21, 82:25, 85:7, 39:11, 43:4, 45:21, complicated [1] - 67:21 110:1, 111:14, 112:4, 89:4, 89:9, 89:14, 46:10, 53:14, 53:23, 45:25 118:20, 118:22, 89:25, 95:6, 95:12, colleges [3] - 37:6, 54:1, 54:12, 74:22, COMPLIED) [1] - 37:21, 37:24 143:3, 148:17, 98:8, 99:23, 101:9, 75:24, 76:1, 117:2, 92:10 154:17, 155:10, 101:22, 103:3, Collier [1] - 95:21 117:11, 125:2, compliments [1] - 156:10, 157:2, 103:11, 104:13, Colonel [8] - 7:13, 128:11, 130:5, 83:7 104:16, 104:21, 7:14, 26:25, 29:8, 157:24, 162:15, 130:19, 132:6, comply [1] - 23:22 108:11, 119:5, 141:4, 29:15, 30:1, 30:14 175:1, 179:2, 179:8, 132:14, 132:21 component [5] - 179:12, 179:16, 141:12, 143:17, colonel [2] - 29:6, companies [2] - 14:23, 75:12, 164:3, 179:20, 179:22, 145:16, 146:1, 147:1, 29:25 20:13, 155:2 164:4, 164:6 181:1, 184:6, 195:22, 147:5, 169:16, COLONEL [1] - 7:25 Company [1] - components [2] - 199:6, 233:14 169:18, 174:13, Colony [16] - 115:6, 137:10 142:14, 164:2 commercial [3] - 180:15, 180:18, 115:24, 116:2, company [3] - comport [1] - 172:23 23:14, 185:20, 187:15 180:21, 192:16, 231:9 129:18, 129:25, 135:15, 135:20, 155:4 comprehensive [10] COMMISSION [3] - Commissioner [34] - 130:5, 130:12, 132:7, compared [1] - 42:5 - 20:1, 22:16, 97:23, 111:1, 150:1, 162:1 2:5, 2:7, 4:8, 8:1, 143:10, 143:13, compartmentalize 115:7, 116:1, 116:25, Commission [62] - 9:11, 16:2, 25:8, 44:8, 143:20, 143:25, [1] - 59:19 118:10, 120:13, 47:20, 49:10, 50:1, 144:19, 145:2, 145:7, 2:15, 2:18, 2:22, 10:8, compassion [1] - 143:13, 197:17 55:13, 61:15, 64:22, 147:6 14:6, 19:9, 19:13, 28:18 comprised [3] - 97:5, 20:4, 20:17, 20:23, 67:1, 67:10, 70:2, Colorado [1] - compelled [1] - 125:3, 166:17 24:9, 78:18, 111:4, 72:11, 79:25, 80:12, 131:18 123:23 comprises [1] - 111:7, 111:20, 115:2, 81:3, 81:7, 86:5, combat [3] - 29:13, compensation [7] - 76:23 115:21, 115:22, 97:22, 101:5, 101:6, 41:11, 41:13 20:2, 20:8, 33:12, compromise [1] - 123:7, 141:18, 102:21, 102:22, combining [1] - 33:15, 45:12, 45:24, 203:8 142:15, 143:9, 112:21, 116:16, 83:18 121:17 Comstock [1] - 143:15, 144:4, 144:15, 174:11, comfort [1] - 144:18 Compensation [1] - 160:20 147:10, 148:23, 204:10, 214:16 comfortable [1] - 20:10 con [1] - 211:14 150:7, 162:6, 165:5, commissioner [4] - 102:3 compensations [1] - Concentration [1] - 165:18, 166:24, 15:25, 48:12, 119:2, comforting [1] - 58:2 34:4 30:25 167:3, 167:5, 167:11, 231:8 coming [6] - 13:4, compiled [1] - 79:2 concept [3] - 114:15, 167:20, 167:22, Commissioner's [1] 34:2, 34:3, 58:11, complete [9] - 17:8, 123:3, 201:1 169:13, 174:22, - 231:15 117:24, 118:18 56:23, 73:7, 115:14, conceptual [1] - 175:13, 176:10, Commissioners [1] - comitted [1] - 119:19 119:19, 134:8, 194:5 178:25, 179:4, 21:21 comma [2] - 173:4 153:24, 233:22, 235:6 conceptually [1] - 181:20, 182:8, 183:2, commitment [3] - Command [3] - completed [13] - 60:24 183:6, 183:8, 183:10, 81:17, 117:13, 120:24 26:23, 28:3, 28:6 12:18, 88:3, 113:15, concern [10] - 89:21, 183:18, 184:2, committed [3] - Commander [1] - 113:18, 113:19, 122:9, 125:5, 125:9, 209:19, 209:24, 62:11, 120:19, 120:21 113:23, 114:1, 128:17, 128:19, 28:15 210:10, 211:14, committee [1] - 120:12, 125:15, commend [3] - 136:8, 217:7, 217:8, 211:19, 211:25, 158:20 126:13, 158:15, 227:8 69:12, 69:20, 69:24 212:5, 214:14, Committee [6] - 6:7, 219:1, 219:3 commended [3] - Concern [8] - 214:18, 221:10, 155:23, 157:8, completely [7] - 112:11, 115:14, 67:13, 67:14, 70:22 222:18, 229:19 157:10, 157:13, 158:6 45:3, 86:8, 86:9, comment [15] - 82:9, 119:13, 133:25, Commission's [5] - commonly [1] - 104:2, 106:24, 170:6, 135:25, 136:3, 155:14, 166:21, 162:24, 163:1, 166:9, 209:11 166:23, 170:12, 178:9 138:13, 143:22

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concerned [5] - consequences [1] - 122:13, 159:8, 44:25, 46:4, 66:25, coordinate [1] - 77:7 83:15, 217:22, 223:16 183:14, 183:23, 73:15, 85:10, 94:23, coordinating [1] - 218:23, 219:11, conservation [49] - 204:17, 210:18, 109:10, 115:13, 194:9 226:16 77:11, 90:19, 91:6, 213:3, 220:3, 223:20, 115:23, 128:4, Coordination [1] - concerning [3] - 94:12, 95:18, 96:2, 229:25, 233:7 128:22, 128:24, 79:6 21:17, 62:3, 63:5 96:14, 96:18, 98:2, consists [1] - 25:11 129:11, 136:11, coordination [1] - concerns [5] - 88:8, 98:25, 104:23, 185:2, consolidated [1] - 136:14, 143:10, 193:10 123:9, 217:19, 196:17, 196:20, 108:19 143:20, 147:5, corner [1] - 64:2 222:10, 222:11 197:6, 197:10, constituency [1] - 148:13, 204:19, corners [2] - 198:25, Conch [1] - 141:22 197:14, 197:17, 83:11 204:25, 211:10, 231:16 concluded [4] - 31:3, 197:20, 197:21, constitute [3] - 213:25 Corporate [1] - 158:6 31:19, 73:10, 203:17 197:23, 198:3, 198:5, 168:12, 173:10, 186:3 CONTINUED [1] - corporation [1] - concludes [9] - 5:8, 198:9, 199:10, constituted [1] - 162:2 105:18 15:22, 59:4, 71:20, 199:18, 199:19, 165:17 continued [13] - Corporation [1] - 142:11, 148:22, 199:20, 199:22, constitutes [1] - 32:6, 62:10, 94:13, 154:12 211:8, 229:17, 233:18 210:20, 211:3, 211:6, 186:9 124:17, 125:12, Corps [3] - 27:16, concluding [2] - 211:8, 213:6, 214:7, constrained [1] - 127:22, 128:6, 30:4, 127:8 60:9, 75:11 214:24, 215:19, 153:18 129:10, 136:25, Correct [1] - 171:15 conclusion [2] - 215:22, 217:2, 224:7, constraint [1] - 40:9 137:3, 137:24, 155:2, correct [18] - 14:19, 158:23, 165:10 224:17, 228:25, constraints [3] - 212:18 73:10, 73:11, 73:21, conclusions [1] - 229:2, 229:4, 230:19, 121:9, 207:14, 208:4 Continued [1] - 2:22 73:23, 100:14, 203:16 230:23, 232:14 construction [10] - continues [7] - 100:23, 147:16, concrete [1] - 145:13 Conservation [5] - 113:9, 113:17, 41:23, 93:15, 94:3, 147:20, 152:15, concurrent [1] - 30:9 78:18, 91:3, 93:5, 113:25, 114:5, 144:20, 172:22, 170:1, 170:22, 171:4, conduct [6] - 20:1, 96:5, 96:11 119:20, 125:22, 188:7, 188:22 174:19, 230:6, 21:1, 77:7, 163:20, conservative [1] - 126:19, 138:6, continuing [4] - 230:16, 230:17, 231:2 193:4, 193:25 229:5 138:24, 209:22 53:8, 120:19, 137:25, correctly [2] - 73:5, conducted [3] - consider [11] - 51:2, consultant [5] - 143:24 147:2 20:19, 77:5, 193:10 62:2, 62:23, 115:22, 19:25, 20:25, 218:4, contract [3] - 19:25, corroborate [1] - conference [1] - 139:10, 140:10, 218:6, 218:16 20:4, 20:15 173:20 23:22 140:12, 165:25, Consumer [4] - contracts [2] - 77:16, cost [14] - 5:8, 52:6, Conference [2] - 167:12, 208:22, 223:3 10:22, 105:8, 193:17, 105:17 91:7, 96:8, 96:14, 67:12, 67:18 consideration [31] - 204:23 contributing [1] - 121:19, 138:20, conferences [3] - 4:10, 9:12, 14:22, consumptive [6] - 139:14 211:2, 225:6, 225:14, 44:20, 44:21, 44:22 19:10, 25:10, 26:15, 197:16, 197:22, contribution [1] - 225:16, 225:17, 229:8 26:19, 51:15, 52:12, confidence [1] - 8:7 208:7, 208:12, 209:3, 26:5 cost-effective [1] - 52:20, 69:4, 76:17, confines [1] - 198:25 223:10 contributions [2] - 211:2 87:17, 87:19, 90:24, confirming [1] - consumptive-use 28:1, 28:25 costing [1] - 75:10 96:7, 102:10, 112:9, 126:12 [6] - 197:16, 197:22, contributor [1] - 32:9 costs [7] - 52:19, 162:20, 166:10, conflict [3] - 183:4, 208:7, 208:12, 209:3, control [7] - 16:13, 91:1, 127:20, 138:22, 166:16, 167:17, 211:16, 211:18 223:10 16:18, 44:13, 47:10, 138:24, 139:1 175:7, 178:4, 181:6, conflicts [2] - 183:3, contained [1] - 47:11, 47:14, 128:24 Council [16] - 20:10, 198:2, 208:20, 183:7 181:17 controls [1] - 200:14 26:11, 26:13, 78:9, 209:10, 212:25, confusion [1] - 86:20 containing [1] - conversation [10] - 133:11, 163:9, 228:19, 229:13 congratulate [1] - 76:24 15:4, 50:3, 51:9, 171:19, 175:18, Consideration [1] - 97:22 contaminated [1] - 52:22, 53:8, 59:9, 177:23, 179:11, 105:6 Congress [3] - 27:7, 34:22 69:13, 83:11, 98:19, 216:20, 222:25, considerations [1] - 36:20 contend [1] - 210:7 108:18 223:6, 224:20, 227:15 83:17 connected [3] - continental [1] - conversations [4] - Council's [2] - 225:4, considered [6] - 113:22, 134:23, 119:10 44:4, 48:14, 67:25, 225:19 98:4, 196:3, 205:7, 217:14 contingent [1] - 143:25 Counsel [2] - 57:18, 206:19, 207:15, connecting [1] - 135:9 conversely [1] - 158:7 210:18 113:10 continually [1] - 136:1 count [1] - 62:13 considering [2] - connection [3] - 39:25 converted [1] - 201:6 Countians [1] - 61:4, 224:17 126:2, 126:14, 154:10 continuation [1] - convey [1] - 145:11 54:11 consistency [5] - connections [4] - 120:4 conveying [1] - 94:5 counties [2] - 163:15, 181:15, 113:2, 113:18, continue [33] - 8:12, cooperation [2] - 208:17, 221:14 208:3, 209:2, 209:8 113:22, 114:2 10:10, 13:1, 14:14, 140:8, 193:11 counting [1] - 99:16 consistent [15] - 5:2, consequence [1] - 33:9, 39:1, 40:9, cooperative [2] - countless [2] - 13:18, 107:1, 109:5, 46:22 41:15, 42:12, 43:1, 90:20, 96:3 31:10, 117:1

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country [2] - 8:11, 117:23, 136:16 data [8] - 13:4, 217:17, 217:18 delay [1] - 148:3 138:19 creature [1] - 70:17 15:17, 20:12, 78:8, declining [2] - 30:8, delegation [3] - 88:9, COUNTY [1] - 235:3 crediting [1] - 81:21 78:19, 79:2, 194:1, 165:13 89:18, 227:12 county [9] - 27:20, Creek [2] - 214:3, 195:10 decorations [1] - delegations [8] - 56:1, 56:3, 119:10, 215:5 database [6] - 12:17, 31:22 87:18, 87:20, 87:22, 119:19, 121:14, crested [1] - 97:9 12:18, 12:20, 12:23, decrease [1] - 38:1 88:1, 88:6, 88:22, 121:22, 213:20, 215:7 criteria [7] - 82:22, 13:5, 35:23 decreased [3] - 11:9, 89:17 County [34] - 27:22, 88:19, 159:4, 208:7, date [5] - 10:14, 11:17, 130:15 deletion [1] - 87:25 29:18, 53:17, 56:11, 208:12, 208:13, 43:11, 72:22, 109:14, decreases [1] - deletions [1] - 87:19 90:13, 91:9, 93:8, 208:17 151:13 220:15 delivery [2] - 45:16, 93:10, 93:15, 95:21, critical [10] - 77:19, DATE [1] - 1:13 dedicated [4] - 46:3 113:23, 115:11, 122:9, 125:5, 125:9, DATED [1] - 235:7 13:17, 29:16, 30:1, demand [4] - 13:21, 115:18, 116:17, 128:17, 128:18, dated [2] - 195:17, 136:20 41:1, 114:16, 197:10 117:25, 119:9, 129:1, 136:8, 137:1, 195:18 dedication [2] - 28:1, demise [1] - 62:21 119:11, 122:16, 227:23 dates [2] - 113:5, 136:17 demonstrates [1] - 123:5, 123:6, 163:9, Critical [8] - 112:10, 164:7 deemed [5] - 42:18, 198:4 171:19, 175:13, 115:13, 119:13, dating [1] - 194:25 181:19, 188:14, denial [2] - 11:3, 176:9, 178:24, 133:25, 135:25, days [16] - 4:25, 191:17, 191:19 233:5 211:24, 212:5, 136:3, 138:13, 143:22 10:13, 10:14, 10:21, deems [4] - 189:18, denied [2] - 95:16, 213:17, 216:20, critically [1] - 39:9 10:22, 11:10, 11:16, 189:22, 190:1, 190:5 103:23 217:4, 221:14, 222:5, cropping [1] - 97:4 11:18, 11:24, 12:2, deep [1] - 119:20 deny [5] - 95:2, 224:20, 225:19 cross [1] - 23:19 47:3, 70:20 deeper [2] - 50:13, 180:16, 180:19, County's [2] - 27:12, cross-references [1] Daytona [1] - 32:5 50:14 230:5, 233:3 212:9 - 23:19 DCA [3] - 166:1, deer [1] - 91:24 DEO [8] - 119:14, couple [9] - 14:10, crosses [1] - 44:14 166:13 defending [1] - 121:3, 124:14, 33:7, 34:11, 50:3, crowdfunding [3] - deadline [2] - 226:10 125:25, 126:11, 54:14, 68:5, 134:13, 12:7, 12:10 126:15, 143:23 Defense [1] - 45:15 129:7, 140:6, 141:20 144:18, 199:25 Cudjoe [1] - 119:18 deal [3] - 52:9, 77:15, defense [2] - 30:6, DEO's [2] - 122:21, course [10] - 28:21, Cummings [1] - 86:11 30:20 139:8 34:12, 35:1, 36:20, 160:21 dealing [4] - 4:25, defer [1] - 133:12 DEP [9] - 49:14, 37:25, 41:1, 41:8, curiae [6] - 167:10, 72:14, 217:11, 221:20 deference [3] - 94:12, 98:13, 98:17, 55:21, 56:2, 121:21 175:9, 175:16, dealt [3] - 109:18, 186:7, 221:22, 221:23 98:21, 101:10, court [1] - 210:9 177:15, 177:17, 178:3 222:12, 231:19 deficiencies [3] - 101:14, 132:17, 166:2 Court [9] - 165:16, current [6] - 12:6, dearly [1] - 61:25 11:2, 16:6, 194:17 DEP's [3] - 76:17, 165:21, 172:1, 49:12, 78:13, 114:3, death [1] - 28:24 deficiency [1] - 166:5, 166:8 172:10, 173:17, 120:5, 130:2 debate [1] - 231:10 11:17 DEPARTMENT [1] - 201:21, 202:18, Curry [1] - 227:14 debt [3] - 50:16, deficient [2] - 25:1 235:11 Curtis [2] - 26:25, 109:6, 127:5 194:15, 198:3 department [3] - COURT [1] - 1:17 29:6 decade [1] - 195:6 deficit [1] - 121:13 36:23, 63:11, 130:13 courtesy [2] - 8:15, customers [4] - decades [5] - 27:19, defined [7] - 156:16, Department [51] - 86:24 77:23, 78:6, 127:3, 34:10, 34:22, 48:6, 168:23, 176:11, 4:4, 5:6, 6:1, 6:20, courts [1] - 202:7 221:13 219:11 184:19, 185:13, 23:16, 23:20, 25:4, cover [2] - 13:24, cut [1] - 43:25 December [1] - 187:3, 189:7 25:9, 26:17, 29:2, 60:6 cycle [2] - 48:4, 126:15 definition [32] - 30:17, 32:1, 33:14, covers [1] - 10:3 146:2 decide [4] - 148:12, 153:19, 169:6, 176:4, 33:17, 33:19, 35:21, cow/calf [1] - 97:3 Cypress [2] - 95:22, 165:19, 167:8, 181:21 176:11, 176:13, 36:5, 39:17, 39:24, Cox [1] - 97:13 96:21 decided [2] - 167:20, 176:20, 184:18, 45:14, 49:5, 49:20, crane [2] - 91:23, 181:13 186:2, 186:13, 51:21, 52:21, 74:10, 97:10 D deciding [2] - 84:3, 186:16, 186:22, 79:19, 84:1, 87:18, crannies [1] - 75:4 170:2 187:7, 189:14, 87:25, 88:5, 88:12, create [4] - 12:13, daddy [1] - 70:15 decision [9] - 16:20, 192:11, 199:24, 90:21, 96:4, 105:7, 54:9, 139:7, 201:23 daily [2] - 114:17, 63:15, 63:19, 64:4, 200:2, 200:9, 201:17, 112:9, 112:12, created [3] - 12:12, 128:19 82:21, 82:23, 83:16, 203:4, 203:6, 203:18, 112:23, 114:10, 158:19, 158:20 dais [1] - 40:16 148:12, 223:13 205:2, 206:9, 206:12, 115:2, 115:8, 115:21, creates [1] - 136:9 Dale [2] - 67:7, 74:21 decisionmaking [1] - 210:3, 210:5, 213:3, 125:10, 126:23, creating [3] - 34:23, damage [2] - 227:23, 64:1 216:4, 227:9, 227:21, 134:4, 145:3, 165:3, 83:19, 209:6 228:10 decisions [5] - 228:17, 229:7 193:15, 193:16, creation [2] - 116:7, damaged [2] - 60:20, 62:3, 63:4, definitions [1] - 204:22, 204:24, 212:9 120:16 220:13, 220:14 210:9 204:1 Department's [8] - creative [3] - 16:12, dark [1] - 53:10 declines [2] - degree [1] - 48:1 4:23, 16:24, 79:16,

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112:13, 115:15, detrimental [1] - direct [5] - 60:2, disaster [1] - 38:8 174:7, 181:11, 116:5, 142:14, 142:16 16:24 60:24, 74:1, 183:12, disasters [1] - 38:5 181:18, 181:22, deprived [1] - 226:18 Detzner [2] - 56:25, 183:21 discern [2] - 209:24, 183:12, 183:21, Deputy [1] - 133:15 59:12 directed [2] - 13:15, 210:11 184:6, 184:8, 184:10, described [2] - 13:9, develop [6] - 47:21, 37:8 discharge [1] - 45:16 184:23, 185:6, 188:3, 213:4 91:11, 189:6, 192:5, directing [1] - 85:9 discovered [2] - 188:5, 188:7, 188:13, describes [1] - 192:6, 213:20 direction [4] - 47:2, 51:5, 73:20 188:16, 188:20, 210:17 developable [2] - 86:14, 87:22, 144:4 discretionary [1] - 188:21, 189:18, descriptions [1] - 114:10, 114:23 directive [3] - 115:1, 127:4 193:24, 194:3, 194:8, 189:10 developed [2] - 115:20, 143:15 discuss [6] - 58:20, 194:18, 194:20, desegregated [1] - 172:13, 181:10 directly [2] - 61:8, 72:17, 77:1, 123:8, 194:22, 194:24, 65:8 developer [1] - 137:9 194:20 124:14, 194:1 195:4, 195:8, 195:15, Desert [3] - 34:19, developers [1] - DIRECTOR [76] - 4:7, discussed [7] - 196:1, 196:3, 196:6, 48:8, 48:9 135:21 4:21, 5:22, 6:17, 7:9, 92:21, 98:13, 123:12, 196:24, 197:12, deserve [1] - 42:21 developing [4] - 7:11, 7:16, 25:6, 157:12, 189:3, 203:1, 197:25, 198:4, design [1] - 208:9 13:20, 191:12, 25:23, 32:25, 44:7, 203:2 199:11, 199:14, designate [1] - 210:21, 219:4 47:19, 48:11, 48:20, discusses [1] - 199:16, 199:20, 207:16 development [34] - 108:6, 108:17, 33:11 201:21, 202:18, 203:12, 203:15, designated [17] - 12:15, 13:22, 21:24, 109:17, 110:5, 111:5, DISCUSSION [1] - 105:9, 105:14, 93:9, 94:6, 114:12, 111:18, 112:8, 159:20 204:13, 205:2, 206:20, 207:2, 105:24, 122:8, 125:4, 115:25, 120:14, 116:11, 119:2, discussion [12] - 185:23, 186:5, 130:17, 130:20, 129:16, 133:5, 137:8, 33:4, 49:12, 49:22, 208:21, 210:6, 187:18, 190:20, 131:19, 136:1, 142:11, 143:8, 144:3, 53:2, 55:8, 58:6, 210:20, 211:7, 213:2, 191:22, 192:12, 137:21, 137:22, 144:8, 144:12, 145:7, 194:12, 214:19, 214:21, 205:16, 206:21, 138:3, 143:11, 145:21, 146:3, 199:10, 199:13, 216:10, 216:12, 207:6, 209:1, 213:23, 143:21, 147:6, 164:3, 146:10, 146:16, 217:25, 227:16 218:8, 218:9, 219:11, 220:1, 220:22, 220:5 164:4, 164:6, 164:14, 146:20, 147:8, discussions [2] - 221:25, 222:2, designation [12] - 168:11, 168:25, 147:21, 147:23, 46:8, 82:11 222:20, 224:5, 224:9, 90:10, 90:22, 96:6, 184:16, 189:3, 189:5, 148:2, 148:7, 148:14, disingenuous [1] - 105:6, 115:14, 193:5, 193:7, 195:2, 148:22, 150:4, 207:23 224:13, 225:20, 227:6, 228:14, 230:24 122:14, 123:15, 197:8, 198:7, 207:9, 150:10, 151:10, dismissal [4] - district [7] - 167:24, 136:8, 184:15, 185:8, 210:16 151:21, 151:24, 164:25, 165:15, 177:1, 177:3, 186:8, 188:4, 189:12 develops [1] - 152:3, 152:6, 152:11, 165:17, 165:24 197:1, 205:15, 223:22 desire [4] - 63:13, 223:22 152:15, 152:18, dismissing [1] - district's [1] - 193:6 66:24, 101:18 deviating [1] - 152:22, 153:3, 153:6, 165:14 District's [15] - desired [2] - 40:12, 222:19 153:9, 153:13, dispensing [1] - 59:2 162:21, 163:25, 177:5 deviation [1] - 199:3 153:17, 153:22, display [1] - 72:24 154:3, 154:8, 154:21, 173:3, 181:15, desires [1] - 49:23 devices [1] - 35:10 displayed [2] - 196:19, 197:3, 197:7, desiring [2] - 28:13, devil [1] - 140:21 155:20, 156:14, 51:16, 58:20 157:6, 158:3, 159:13, 197:14, 197:15, 167:7 devised [2] - 108:22, displaying [1] - 159:16, 159:24, 201:10, 208:7, destination [3] - 139:6 52:17 160:11, 160:19, 209:13, 210:14, 127:11, 128:1, 130:8 Diane [1] - 92:7 disposition [1] - 54:8 161:3, 161:7, 162:7, 221:18, 224:16 destinations [2] - dictionaries [1] - disproportionately 162:19 Districts [1] - 175:22 138:18, 138:19 231:14 [1] - 127:19 Director [8] - 2:3, districts [12] - 172:4, destroyed [1] - 63:8 died [3] - 62:24, disputes [1] - 225:9 2:9, 2:14, 2:20, 8:6, 175:20, 177:19, detail [1] - 78:25 65:1, 66:10 distinct [1] - 62:23 116:23, 122:4, 133:16 193:19, 201:14, details [3] - 140:22, difference [1] - 227:2 distinction [1] - director [2] - 31:25, 204:19, 204:22, 208:9 different [13] - 15:3, 158:25 212:8 210:7, 212:20, 216:6, determination [7] - 47:9, 52:15, 54:10, distinguished [3] - disabilities [2] - 216:8, 232:1 154:9, 186:8, 204:15, 74:18, 76:2, 84:18, 26:19, 29:11, 31:17 33:22, 34:4 divide [1] - 212:20 205:23, 208:5, 208:8, 85:8, 94:11, 138:8, distributed [1] - Disabilities [1] - 27:9 division [2] - 42:9, 208:23 141:25, 203:12 123:10 disability [3] - 21:22, 42:10 determine [1] - difficult [1] - 172:13 distributions [1] - 35:19, 36:17 DIVISION [1] - 108:1 167:22 difficulty [1] - 67:15 151:17 disagree [2] - 219:9, Division [10] - 2:13, determined [6] - digital [1] - 31:5 District [84] - 125:19, 231:3 10:22, 11:1, 11:19, 22:21, 130:14, 165:8, dignified [3] - 52:9, 163:10, 163:12, disagreeing [1] - 13:23, 76:25, 77:6, 165:17, 173:16, 224:6 52:18, 54:7 163:15, 163:19, 231:1 78:5, 78:15, 108:4 determines [4] - digress [1] - 124:13 164:10, 165:16, disappear [1] - DJJ [3] - 57:3, 63:8, 163:21, 182:8, 183:6, dilapidated [1] - 172:1, 172:10, 75:6 223:23 72:10 123:18 172:24, 173:17,

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DNA [2] - 52:4, 73:14 56:5, 56:7, 62:3, 62:8, 77:11, 90:19, 90:25, 135:6, 140:24, 194:9, 93:16, 120:16 DOAH [3] - 164:23, 62:11, 62:12, 63:5, 91:6, 94:11, 94:12, 194:24, 197:14, encouraged [2] - 181:22, 188:17 63:22, 64:25 95:19, 96:2, 96:7, 199:14, 204:20, 119:14, 121:3 Dockery [1] - 210:1 draft [4] - 33:2, 96:14, 96:18, 96:24, 228:1, 232:5, 232:19 encouraging [1] - Doctor [20] - 50:6, 43:10, 85:10, 155:22 104:23 eight [8] - 21:3, 213:24 50:15, 50:25, 52:2, drafted [1] - 195:21 Easement [1] - 93:5 26:14, 41:12, 112:14, encumbrances [1] - 54:4, 56:8, 56:15, drafting [4] - 184:24, easements [1] - 90:9 116:12, 187:5, 205:4, 92:3 58:24, 59:3, 59:16, 195:10, 198:5, 198:10 easily [3] - 53:22, 206:10 end [15] - 14:15, 61:6, 65:12, 66:13, drafts [1] - 228:25 53:25, 88:8 eighth [2] - 186:4, 71:17, 79:5, 84:9, 66:16, 70:9, 71:25, Draper [2] - 92:14, east [2] - 65:19, 205:14 125:16, 156:4, 72:5, 72:18, 73:6, 93:3 90:13 either [4] - 47:15, 172:16, 173:8, 76:7 DRAPER [1] - 93:1 eastern [1] - 97:5 88:2, 167:23, 202:25 173:11, 173:12, DOCTOR [2] - 73:11, draw [2] - 158:9, easy [1] - 46:25 Elder [1] - 29:2 182:25, 193:1, 200:8, 73:22 158:11 ebb [2] - 36:15, elderly [1] - 74:2 202:2, 202:11 document [3] - 16:8, drawing [2] - 144:19, 38:12 elect [1] - 152:23 endeavor [1] - 34:24, 36:9 220:7 Ebbetts [4] - 26:25, elected [4] - 27:19, 124:16 documentation [3] - Drew [2] - 9:4, 17:24 29:6, 29:8, 29:15 125:18, 128:21, ended [2] - 82:17, 16:20, 60:11, 230:10 dries [1] - 48:2 ebbs [1] - 35:17 135:12 140:18 documented [1] - drinking [1] - 34:16 echoed [1] - 189:1 electric [2] - 79:7, enforce [1] - 92:5 97:7 driven [2] - 10:16, ecological [2] - 79:9 enforcement [2] - documents [1] - 77:6 217:11, 222:13 elements [2] - 13:24, 8:11, 27:18 125:11 drivers' [1] - 5:1 Econ [2] - 90:14, 75:2 engage [3] - 184:24, dollar [1] - 41:25 driving [2] - 6:5, 91:19 elevate [1] - 206:13 193:19, 222:6 dollars [15] - 34:2, 83:16 Econlockhatchee eligible [1] - 34:5 engaged [4] - 72:21, 46:20, 69:9, 81:15, DSL-6 [3] - 88:11, [2] - 91:21, 93:13 Ellis [3] - 129:17, 194:24, 204:19, 88:18, 99:1, 121:20, 88:20, 89:18 economic [6] - 129:21, 129:25 221:17 131:8, 132:20, due [2] - 6:23, 113:5 78:22, 114:21, ELLIS [2] - 129:23, engagement [1] - 136:24, 139:15, dug [1] - 66:19 120:22, 121:2, 133:4 13:12 139:17, 140:1, 227:4, duly [1] - 183:5 122:20, 136:9 eloquently [1] - engaging [1] - 227:5 duplicative [1] - 88:4 Economic [4] - 55:14 194:11 done [25] - 11:8, during [27] - 10:24, 112:9, 112:23, email [1] - 195:16 engine [2] - 121:2, 51:21, 56:12, 56:16, 11:18, 13:25, 26:3, 125:11, 134:5 embedded [2] - 122:20 56:18, 58:1, 65:14, 27:8, 28:19, 31:1, economy [6] - 99:2, 37:10, 38:14 Engineers [1] - 66:8, 68:14, 74:8, 34:18, 35:16, 48:3, 122:24, 138:17, embrace [1] - 72:23 127:9 80:21, 83:6, 84:1, 94:9, 113:14, 128:16, 166:6, 212:24, 217:22 embraces [1] - 60:16 enhance [1] - 42:10 86:25, 93:10, 93:25, 154:25, 181:11, editorial [1] - 209:25 emerge [3] - 34:9, enhancement [1] - 102:13, 107:1, 185:15, 186:19, Education [1] - 34:20, 48:3 35:9 134:22, 140:7, 140:8, 187:10, 190:9, 43:24 emerged [1] - 46:22 enhances [1] - 39:11 140:10, 140:15, 193:23, 194:24, education [2] - emergency [2] - enjoying [1] - 226:18 140:20, 214:21 200:6, 200:22, 37:17, 193:20 68:10, 69:4 enlightening [2] - door [5] - 36:3, 36:7, 203:24, 206:15, educational [1] - emotional [1] - 51:4, 51:6 131:17, 131:21, 220:6, 228:8 37:21 233:22 enormous [1] - 131:24 duties [2] - 105:21, Edward [1] - 27:4 emotionally [1] - 131:23 doors [1] - 44:15 196:25 effect [3] - 12:9, 55:3 enrolled [2] - 46:12, double [1] - 66:17 duty [3] - 28:20, 123:4, 202:5 emphasis [1] - 46:15 down [20] - 51:23, 30:3, 30:13 effective [1] - 211:2 232:14 ensure [11] - 43:2, 66:4, 68:3, 74:19, Duval [1] - 227:12 effectively [4] - emphasizes [1] - 77:7, 77:19, 109:2, 78:20, 80:8, 94:15, DWSP [1] - 189:5 184:24, 194:11, 208:3 113:7, 124:7, 128:23, 100:3, 103:2, 117:20, Dykes [1] - 92:11 206:13, 222:1 employee [2] - 13:6, 163:15, 183:22, 118:15, 141:22, dynamics [1] - 83:10 effects [1] - 128:20 13:8 197:7, 220:2 144:19, 148:25, efficiency [2] - 78:1, employees [1] - ensuring [3] - 42:15, 151:14, 151:16, E 211:1 13:24 42:18, 77:23 156:4, 158:18, 203:6, effluent [1] - 119:22 employment [1] - enter [5] - 19:25, 218:16 ear [1] - 61:20 effort [3] - 126:8, 123:16 20:4, 20:23, 105:16, downstream [3] - Earl [2] - 27:1, 31:15 133:24, 134:12 empty [1] - 66:19 211:19 185:20, 187:15, 229:9 early [1] - 195:1 efforts [21] - 12:6, enabled [1] - 13:21 entered [1] - 12:24 downtown [1] - earned [5] - 28:13, 12:10, 13:8, 13:16, enact [1] - 202:6 Enterprise [1] - 30:6 138:2 31:22, 37:17, 42:16, 122:15, 125:11, encounter [1] - enterprise [2] - Dozier [13] - 49:14, 42:20 127:23, 133:14, 39:16 46:13, 94:3 49:22, 53:10, 55:16, easement [13] - 134:8, 135:1, 135:2, encourage [3] - 93:4, entire [1] - 122:15

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entirely [1] - 213:3 61:4, 153:11, 227:20 excellent [2] - 59:11, 223:23, 224:5, 225:2 77:20 entities [20] - 9:16, essential [1] - 97:24 exists [3] - 139:21, extract [1] - 78:8 148:2, 164:22, 120:25 exception [2] - 182:4, 188:18 extracted [1] - 78:19 166:22, 167:6, essentially [3] - 73:23, 115:5 exiting [1] - 5:7 extraction [1] - 217:7 172:25, 175:10, 11:7, 93:11, 157:9 excess [3] - 130:18, exotics [1] - 78:24 Extraordinaire [1] - 175:12, 175:17, establish [3] - 116:1, 218:13, 228:9 expand [2] - 41:23, 116:23 176:4, 176:7, 177:4, 143:13, 198:1 exchange [1] - 125:13 extraordinarily [1] - 177:14, 177:16, established [2] - 114:12 expansion [1] - 51:21 177:18, 178:2, 45:2, 88:20 excited [1] - 78:3 120:5 extraordinary [4] - 178:20, 193:14, establishing [1] - exclusion [2] - expect [3] - 31:13, 50:6, 58:1, 138:17, 193:21, 207:21 43:8 187:3, 200:16 121:17, 135:24 141:24 entitle [1] - 176:12 establishment [1] - exclusive [2] - expectation [5] - extreme [1] - 96:24 entitled [2] - 182:17, 29:1 163:13, 205:6 15:5, 58:17, 109:13, extremely [1] - 74:4 183:1 estate [3] - 49:15, excruciatingly [2] - 152:1, 166:8 eye [1] - 54:1 entitles [3] - 170:11, 123:17, 135:15 222:12, 222:16 expectations [1] - 176:2, 176:21 estimate [1] - 144:11 excuse [1] - 196:21 59:5 F entity [5] - 49:15, estimated [2] - EXECUTIVE [72] - expected [1] - 105:19, 176:2, 121:19, 231:24 4:7, 4:21, 5:22, 6:17, 153:10 fabulous [1] - 129:12 176:21, 216:7 estimates [1] - 7:9, 7:11, 7:16, 25:6, expeditious [1] - FAC [1] - 111:21 entrusted [1] - 222:3 207:10 25:23, 32:25, 44:7, 77:17 face [3] - 30:8, 97:25, environment [4] - estuaries [1] - 47:19, 48:11, 48:20, expensive [2] - 121:5 120:16, 126:9, 231:21 111:5, 111:18, 112:8, 139:5, 215:21 faced [1] - 122:16 233:23, 233:25 estuarine [1] - 116:11, 119:2, experience [3] - facially [1] - 169:12 Environment [4] - 218:20 129:16, 133:5, 137:8, 7:19, 75:20, 84:4 facilitate [2] - 14:2, 175:17, 177:22, estuary [1] - 218:19 142:11, 143:8, 144:3, experienced [2] - 22:18 179:10, 222:24 et [4] - 83:20, 158:7, 144:8, 144:12, 11:19, 34:18 facilities [3] - 39:6, Environmental [13] - 158:8, 158:22 145:21, 146:3, experiences [1] - 53:18, 113:10 49:5, 163:9, 165:4, evacuation [10] - 146:10, 146:16, 31:4 facility [8] - 22:14, 171:19, 193:16, 113:7, 113:13, 146:20, 147:8, explain [2] - 101:6, 39:13, 39:14, 53:24, 204:24, 208:13, 114:24, 116:3, 121:8, 147:21, 147:23, 182:15 75:25, 109:3, 109:15, 212:9, 216:20, 222:6, 128:25, 130:22, 148:2, 148:7, 148:14, explained [1] - 213:19 224:20, 225:3, 225:19 132:9, 136:22 148:22, 150:4, 210:14 facility-only [1] - environmental [10] - evaluating [1] - 150:10, 151:10, explaining [1] - 22:14 120:23, 127:25, 178:4 151:21, 151:24, 101:8 facing [1] - 121:14 128:7, 213:15, evaluation [3] - 15:7, 152:3, 152:6, 152:11, explanation [1] - fact [12] - 75:22, 214:10, 218:4, 20:5, 209:8 152:15, 152:18, 88:21 123:5, 134:19, 222:10, 222:11, evening [1] - 135:6 152:22, 153:3, 153:6, explicitly [2] - 135:21, 191:19, 224:15, 224:18 events [1] - 44:19 153:9, 153:13, 207:14, 209:7 203:11, 203:15, environmentally [4] Everett [1] - 92:11 153:17, 153:22, explore [1] - 129:7 203:20, 214:24, 154:3, 154:8, 154:21, - 94:4, 114:22, Everglades [1] - exploring [1] - 74:25 218:17, 227:12, 155:20, 156:14, 211:12, 221:1 126:18 expose [1] - 50:23 227:16 157:6, 158:3, 159:13, envisioned [1] - evidence [1] - 63:9 exposed [3] - 34:16, factfinding [2] - 159:16, 159:24, 201:2 evidentiary [3] - 34:25, 48:7 182:1, 221:17 [2] 160:11, 160:19, equal - 88:16, 181:23, 182:3, 188:17 expresses [1] - facto [1] - 201:11 161:3, 161:7, 162:7, 206:16 exactly [1] - 45:25 200:15 factors [5] - 14:8, 162:19 equation [1] - 123:1 examination [1] - expressing [1] - 123:24, 208:20, executive [1] - 31:25 equipment [1] - 155:2 101:17 208:22, 209:11 Executive [4] - 2:3, 108:20 examiners [4] - 37:4, expression [1] - 99:1 facts [5] - 61:22, 2:9, 2:20, 116:23 Eric [6] - 92:14, 41:24, 44:18, 46:5 extended [1] - 50:12 181:13, 188:14, 92:16, 93:3, 158:12, exercise [1] - 47:12 example [6] - 37:8, extensive [1] - 188:19, 205:25 exercising [1] - 179:9, 222:23 44:3, 63:22, 88:10, 158:21 failed [8] - 129:5, Ernie [1] - 97:13 233:21 138:25, 206:17 extensively [1] - 165:8, 184:18, exist [4] - 98:1, erroneous [1] - examples [1] - 13:7 30:18 184:24, 186:13, 206:25 138:5, 165:23, 174:23 exceed [4] - 82:22, external [2] - 14:7, 194:18, 196:16, existence [1] - 62:5 error [3] - 165:18, 130:11, 144:21, 145:4 158:16 228:23 existing [12] - 87:22, 202:16 exceeded [2] - externals [1] - fails [2] - 23:21, 109:15, 140:15, escalating [1] - 62:12, 136:23 158:19 185:2 163:21, 163:22, 124:3 exceeding [2] - extinguished [1] - fairly [3] - 54:24, 164:15, 194:6, esoteric [1] - 218:2 88:16, 154:11 114:13 75:16 197:15, 217:19, especially [4] - 8:6, exceeds [1] - 197:9 extra [2] - 16:22, fall [1] - 205:6

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falling [4] - 74:19, fences [1] - 66:5 1:10, 9:1 five [11] - 19:9, 125:2, 126:8, 126:10, 102:6, 102:12, 206:10 Fernandez [2] - financing [1] - 40:19, 40:22, 44:13, 126:16, 126:19, Fame [7] - 26:1, 179:6, 221:7 108:20 88:17, 139:19, 126:23, 127:15, 26:11, 26:16, 26:21, FERNANDEZ [2] - findings [10] - 50:21, 140:13, 142:13, 128:1, 128:6, 128:14, 27:14, 32:15 179:8, 221:9 51:14, 59:5, 72:24, 150:9, 153:1, 208:21 128:16, 129:2, familiar [1] - 61:18 ferns [1] - 91:24 122:13, 181:17, five-minute [1] - 129:13, 135:9, families [10] - 51:11, few [10] - 12:4, 188:12, 203:14, 150:9 135:11, 135:15, 52:5, 58:3, 63:5, 13:25, 14:5, 17:2, 203:15, 203:16 five-year [1] - 140:13 136:16, 137:5, 68:16, 69:6, 73:15, 47:21, 71:14, 77:1, fine [6] - 15:10, fix [2] - 132:10, 137:12, 137:18, 73:25, 75:14, 225:17 88:7, 117:21, 135:23 58:25, 84:24, 85:3, 132:12 137:23, 138:6, 141:1, families' [1] - 52:8 fewer [1] - 136:12 160:11, 160:12 fixed [1] - 139:12 141:19, 150:6, family [15] - 34:15, FFS [1] - 96:6 finish [3] - 68:4, FLAWAC [11] - 151:13, 154:11, 37:16, 39:8, 40:24, fiduciaries [1] - 103:8, 120:3 164:18, 164:20, 155:25, 156:17, 54:17, 56:6, 56:20, 84:22 finished [5] - 56:15, 165:1, 165:12, 162:5, 175:17, 67:5, 68:25, 90:9, field [6] - 26:12, 57:14, 57:19, 73:12, 165:24, 166:15, 175:20, 175:21, 91:10, 91:13, 92:7, 37:4, 41:24, 44:18, 137:21 172:20, 176:6, 175:25, 177:22, 94:3, 97:13 46:6, 73:12 finishing [2] - 73:13, 176:22, 183:17 179:10, 189:8, 203:6, Family [6] - 90:15, fifths [1] - 206:1 134:21 FLAWAC's [2] - 204:17, 204:21, 205:9, 210:12, 94:6, 94:10, 95:24, fight [1] - 67:16 fires [2] - 34:18, 48:8 166:6, 175:25 211:16, 212:14, 96:24, 97:13 fighters [1] - 31:21 firm [2] - 70:5, flexibility [1] - 48:1 213:10, 216:9, 217:5, far [4] - 38:3, 38:24, file [10] - 6:2, 6:21, 105:18 flies [1] - 70:16 218:7, 218:8, 220:12, 215:24, 226:23 45:23, 111:23, 176:5, first [53] - 4:24, 9:13, Flight [1] - 27:24 221:14, 221:19, Farm [2] - 91:1, 96:9 176:21, 177:5, 180:7, 11:10, 12:6, 13:25, flight [1] - 31:20 222:24, 223:5, 223:8, fashion [1] - 77:24 180:19 31:25, 32:4, 33:2, flood [4] - 124:3, 225:15, 225:16, fast [3] - 56:18, filed [10] - 164:18, 36:2, 36:7, 44:12, 124:4, 124:6, 124:8 228:3, 228:24, 229:6, 69:15, 93:9 164:22, 165:2, 165:5, 53:15, 61:11, 61:19, floodplain [1] - 229:15, 231:20, fastest [1] - 221:13 175:10, 175:15, 76:9, 76:23, 84:2, 220:14 231:25, 232:15 favor [4] - 104:14, 177:16, 182:10, 88:25, 90:11, 94:20, floor [5] - 49:24, Florida's [14] - 105:2, 105:4, 138:11 219:3, 229:23 96:23, 99:19, 100:7, 103:12, 166:20, 28:18, 30:5, 32:10, favorable [2] - 52:12, filing [4] - 36:4, 100:20, 103:2, 103:9, 170:13, 198:19 70:25, 71:9, 71:13, 93:4 118:6, 175:19, 178:12 105:23, 116:15, FLORIDA [6] - 1:1, 124:9, 124:10, FAX [1] - 1:23 filings [2] - 20:7, 137:18, 139:3, 1:15, 1:23, 150:1, 154:24, 223:21, FDACS [5] - 90:22, 200:2 142:17, 142:21, 162:1, 235:3 225:1, 225:7, 225:17 96:6, 105:8, 105:20, filled [4] - 28:15, 151:12, 167:2, Florida [145] - 2:17, Floridians [5] - 105:24 38:22, 39:1, 88:12 167:17, 168:6, 2:22, 5:14, 7:13, 8:8, 50:23, 51:16, 51:17, FDLE [2] - 59:17, filters [1] - 227:24 169:24, 174:8, 8:14, 12:8, 17:5, 20:2, 124:19, 136:25 62:13 final [19] - 6:2, 6:21, 178:23, 181:7, 20:9, 21:25, 22:17, flow [9] - 36:15, FDVA [1] - 85:9 9:14, 20:16, 22:11, 184:14, 185:7, 23:13, 25:25, 26:1, 38:12, 200:22, 201:4, February [1] - 20:19 23:9, 33:10, 43:12, 186:14, 192:15, 26:5, 26:10, 26:17, 203:25, 215:12, fecal [1] - 227:1 54:5, 59:16, 72:1, 192:16, 192:17, 26:20, 27:7, 27:10, 195:16, 198:23, 219:20, 219:21, 228:8 fed [1] - 62:19 75:13, 79:11, 85:12, 28:2, 28:9, 28:23, 200:23, 203:22, flows [15] - 35:17, federal [17] - 30:9, 111:23, 136:11, 29:2, 29:7, 29:10, 185:16, 186:20, 36:19, 36:25, 37:6, 168:12, 219:24, 226:2 205:7, 205:11, 206:3 30:6, 30:15, 30:17, First [15] - 26:24, 187:11, 190:9, 200:6, 38:2, 42:22, 45:14, finalists [1] - 26:14 31:9, 31:17, 32:1, 28:21, 165:16, 166:1, 205:13, 206:15, 46:9, 48:4, 80:7, 99:6, finality [1] - 156:4 32:5, 32:14, 37:24, 166:13, 172:1, 206:25, 217:18, 99:17, 100:1, 100:4, Finally [1] - 31:15 40:15, 44:21, 50:8, 172:10, 173:17, 218:18, 220:6, 100:8, 102:8, 127:7 finally [5] - 34:10, 51:7, 56:10, 61:24, 186:15, 201:20, 220:15, 228:15 federally [1] - 97:8 39:22, 42:8, 115:1, 62:7, 63:2, 63:4, 202:18, 208:20, focus [10] - 12:14, fee [6] - 82:6, 91:5, 116:5 63:17, 63:21, 64:24, 209:12, 209:16 76:25, 113:1, 134:15, 91:7, 96:13, 96:15, FINANCE [1] - 108:1 67:11, 67:18, 68:20, first-time [1] - 36:2 153:14, 199:7, 213:6, 97:25 Finance [4] - 2:13, 70:18, 77:16, 78:16, fiscal [9] - 9:25, 10:3, 213:7, 223:15, 228:19 fee-simple [1] - 10:23, 108:5, 154:11 78:17, 89:13, 90:22, 11:10, 14:15, 15:16, focused [2] - 26:7, 97:25 financed [1] - 109:8 91:24, 93:3, 93:24, 35:16, 81:10, 122:2, 96:25, 97:10, 97:12, 194:8 feedback [2] - 16:4, Financial [14] - 2:5, 154:9 focuses [2] - 187:1, 86:8 9:4, 10:8, 14:6, 19:9, 97:16, 105:7, 105:11, fiscally [1] - 77:14 226:10 fees [1] - 11:6 19:13, 20:3, 20:23, 105:23, 112:10, fish [4] - 217:20, 115:10, 115:13, fold [4] - 41:5, 42:5, fellow [1] - 28:10 23:16, 23:20, 39:24, 218:20, 218:22, 118:7, 119:9, 120:21, 186:14, 192:22 felt [3] - 52:20, 61:14, 157:16, 204:9 220:16 122:1, 122:8, 122:9, folks [6] - 40:16, 66:14, 145:8 financial [1] - 11:12 Fish [1] - 78:17 122:12, 124:18, 42:2, 44:18, 44:22, fence [1] - 65:19 FINANCIAL [2] -

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48:7, 67:19 213:25, 214:5, 188:23, 189:18, 163:22, 164:15, 230:18, 230:25, follow [2] - 73:9, 214:20, 217:23, 190:5, 190:12, 183:13, 183:22, 233:2, 233:10, 233:20 102:20 219:19, 228:6, 229:7, 191:16, 205:19, 194:6, 220:2, 224:5, General [29] - 4:8, follow-up [1] - 73:9 232:20 205:22, 205:25, 225:2 7:25, 9:10, 25:7, 27:1, followed [3] - fought [1] - 30:23 206:2, 206:7, 227:20 FWC [1] - 97:11 29:10, 31:15, 31:17, 112:14, 116:18, 196:9 founded [3] - 97:1, Friends [3] - 97:15, 31:24, 32:6, 49:9, following [11] - 217:2, 226:15 137:12, 141:19 G 55:11, 57:18, 57:23, 26:18, 28:8, 28:19, founder [1] - 137:9 front [7] - 116:25, 58:15, 61:14, 64:12, 31:24, 78:20, 88:1, founding [1] - 29:18 117:3, 118:10, Gaff [1] - 92:7 67:10, 69:20, 81:6, 114:15, 115:8, four [27] - 4:9, 10:3, 133:21, 134:9, 199:4, gain [3] - 30:18, 112:20, 157:15, 115:23, 164:24, 10:12, 10:14, 10:15, 228:21 37:19, 44:15 158:7, 160:3, 170:4, 172:11 10:20, 10:24, 11:16, FSB [1] - 64:25 gained [1] - 224:24 180:3, 204:9, 214:16 follows [1] - 93:6 11:24, 14:7, 15:15, Ft [2] - 70:13, 70:21 gallons [2] - 207:25, general [7] - 38:23, Force [2] - 28:7, 31:23, 40:16, 41:5, Fudge [1] - 64:18 229:2 172:15, 194:11, 31:18 41:12, 64:23, 74:1, FUDGE [2] - 64:20, gap [1] - 47:5 196:24, 200:7, force [1] - 75:24 78:14, 81:11, 98:12, 67:3 garner [1] - 82:7 200:12, 201:20 forces [1] - 46:23 115:19, 125:3, fulfilling [1] - 105:20 Garrett [1] - 133:16 General's [2] - 61:5, forefront [1] - 128:11 135:18, 139:18, full [10] - 42:16, 51:4, GARRETT [1] - 103:4 foregoing [2] - 198:25, 206:1, 231:16 66:20, 69:23, 130:6, 133:19 generally [1] - 206:4 191:11, 235:6 four-fold [1] - 41:5 131:4, 132:2, 137:18, Gary [2] - 61:12, generate [1] - 124:10 Forest [5] - 78:17, fourth [70] - 3:10, 167:9, 200:1 61:16 generation [6] - 89:13, 90:14, 90:22, 6:18, 9:25, 11:15, full-time [3] - 130:6, gateway [1] - 53:15 31:14, 42:6, 54:11, 91:19 81:10, 162:22, 131:4, 132:2 GDP [1] - 124:10 79:7, 97:2, 215:24 Forever [1] - 122:2 163:18, 164:11, fully [3] - 98:2, Gene [1] - 7:14 generations [1] - forgive [2] - 63:16, 164:13, 164:21, 104:6, 198:4 GENERAL [95] - 1:9, 76:3 63:17 168:8, 168:25, fun [1] - 149:3 4:14, 5:11, 6:10, 7:2, genocide [1] - 31:6 forgot [1] - 130:4 181:12, 181:17, functioning [1] - 9:17, 9:19, 9:21, Genshaft [1] - 56:10 form [5] - 6:24, 57:9, 183:3, 183:7, 183:11, 49:14 15:10, 15:20, 17:18, gentleman [2] - 33:1, 200:25, 215:25, 217:9 183:20, 183:25, functions [1] - 77:19 19:16, 21:7, 22:3, 141:5 formal [2] - 13:2, 184:7, 184:9, 184:21, FUND [1] - 49:2 22:25, 23:25, 25:16, gentlemen [1] - 20:20 185:1, 185:9, 188:8, fund [7] - 39:3, 68:8, 32:18, 48:18, 55:12, 85:25 formed [1] - 226:14 188:13, 188:22, 120:8, 126:18, 55:18, 57:16, 57:20, George [1] - 133:16 189:1, 189:4, 189:6, former [1] - 216:24 136:17, 153:25, 59:10, 64:9, 64:13, Gerald [1] - 30:22 189:17, 189:21, formerly [1] - 49:13 156:18 71:24, 85:15, 85:19, Germany [1] - 31:1 189:25, 190:4, formula [2] - 130:22, Fund [7] - 2:11, 85:21, 86:3, 87:9, GI [1] - 37:14 190:11, 190:14, 132:9 121:24, 123:21, 87:12, 89:6, 95:4, giant [2] - 53:22, 190:18, 190:22, formulated [1] - 126:24, 151:14, 95:14, 99:3, 101:1, 122:18 190:25, 191:4, 191:8, 171:24 155:25, 156:3 101:4, 101:21, 103:6, given [10] - 13:21, 191:14, 191:20, 103:15, 103:19, FORSTER [1] - funded [3] - 126:22, 33:13, 68:17, 86:22, 192:10, 193:6, 195:6, 124:23 202:13, 226:9 103:25, 104:15, 147:24, 176:24, 195:14, 196:2, 196:4, 106:8, 106:20, Forster [2] - 116:18, funding [11] - 32:3, 177:25, 202:1, 196:5, 196:17, 124:25 38:2, 113:21, 113:25, 106:23, 108:12, 215:14, 233:22 197:18, 198:3, 198:6, 109:25, 111:13, Fort [2] - 34:21, 119:20, 120:1, GIVEN [1] - 3:12 198:10, 205:18, 112:3, 143:2, 147:13, 34:25 127:23, 128:6, glasses [1] - 130:3 205:24, 206:8, 207:8, 148:10, 148:16, forth [1] - 81:23 132:20, 136:20, 137:1 goal [17] - 8:12, 207:19, 208:3, 149:1, 154:14, 155:9, forward [43] - 8:4, fundraising [1] - 39:23, 39:24, 80:4, 208:14, 210:15, 155:14, 155:17, 8:15, 8:17, 13:2, 12:11 80:13, 81:13, 81:23, 210:21, 211:15, 156:9, 156:24, 26:18, 33:8, 34:3, Funds [1] - 122:2 81:24, 82:19, 82:20, 217:6, 229:25, 157:21, 160:2, 160:4, 36:22, 38:11, 43:10, funds [5] - 68:10, 83:14, 84:23, 86:20, 230:23, 233:6 160:17, 160:25, 43:11, 55:2, 72:19, 68:23, 69:5, 81:17, 98:21, 123:18, FPR [3] - 1:17, 235:5, 162:12, 170:5, 74:6, 75:16, 107:2, 227:11 129:11, 173:4 235:11 170:16, 171:1, 112:17, 117:15, funeral [1] - 52:9 goals [4] - 44:1, frame [2] - 11:25, 171:11, 171:16, 117:18, 118:4, furtherance [1] - 122:14, 123:15, 177:6 173:25, 174:16, 118:11, 124:17, 135:3 172:23 frankly [4] - 57:6, 174:25, 178:7, 180:4, 128:22, 129:6, future [24] - 8:17, God [1] - 71:18 83:4, 134:9, 134:15 180:11, 180:23, 129:10, 129:21, 34:8, 43:3, 43:5, Golding [1] - 63:10 free [2] - 30:24, 192:18, 192:23, 134:8, 134:20, 51:16, 68:2, 75:18, goods [1] - 40:4 46:19 198:22, 202:21, 134:25, 137:11, 76:2, 117:22, 118:11, gopher [1] - 91:23 frequency [1] - 60:19 202:24, 203:9, 204:2, 140:25, 142:6, 142:7, 127:5, 142:8, 159:25, Governance [1] - 214:12, 230:7, 173:8, 213:10, fresh [12] - 188:8, 160:4, 160:10, 158:6

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governance [1] - 6:25, 7:3, 7:5, 7:7, 142:20, 143:1, 143:3, Governor's [1] - 45:7 212:17, 212:23, 76:20 7:10, 7:24, 8:20, 9:3, 143:5, 143:16, 144:6, Governors [2] - 212:24, 214:9, 221:13 governed [2] - 9:8, 15:8, 15:18, 144:10, 145:17, 108:21, 108:25 grown [2] - 66:3, 175:24, 193:8 15:24, 17:13, 17:16, 145:24, 146:8, governs [2] - 23:12, 215:3 government [4] - 17:19, 17:21, 17:24, 146:13, 146:18, 197:3 growth [5] - 113:4, 16:10, 51:20, 127:4, 19:3, 19:14, 19:17, 146:23, 147:4, grade [1] - 3:10 117:19, 121:8, 193:12 19:19, 19:21, 21:5, 147:12, 147:20, grant [10] - 91:2, 128:24, 225:11 government-owned 21:8, 21:10, 21:12, 147:22, 148:1, 148:4, 91:4, 96:10, 96:11, Growth [1] - 136:5 [1] - 193:12 22:1, 22:4, 22:6, 22:8, 148:8, 148:11, 126:21, 132:19, guarantee [1] - 173:1 governmental [1] - 22:23, 23:1, 23:3, 148:15, 148:17, 165:11, 175:7, 181:6, Guard [1] - 29:10 105:19 23:6, 23:23, 24:1, 148:20, 148:24, 183:8 guess [4] - 16:14, governments [9] - 24:3, 24:6, 24:10, 149:3, 150:3, 150:8, granted [3] - 87:18, 65:19, 74:14, 85:24 115:3, 115:4, 121:5, 25:3, 25:14, 25:17, 150:11, 151:3, 92:5, 166:13 guidance [1] - 47:23 128:7, 193:11, 194:9, 25:19, 25:21, 32:16, 151:20, 151:22, grants [4] - 105:13, guidelines [1] - 199:8, 227:7, 229:9 32:19, 32:21, 32:23, 151:25, 152:5, 152:8, 113:11, 127:8, 129:2 76:21 Governor [99] - 4:8, 43:15, 48:12, 48:16, 152:12, 152:16, grasp [1] - 41:19 Gulf [1] - 231:22 5:15, 5:23, 7:11, 7:25, 48:19, 49:4, 53:3, 152:21, 153:2, 153:5, grasses [1] - 227:24 guys [2] - 67:12, 9:7, 14:20, 15:23, 55:11, 57:13, 57:19, 153:8, 153:11, grateful [1] - 74:4 119:1 57:21, 60:25, 61:9, 153:15, 153:21, 19:8, 21:14, 23:9, gratitude [1] - 50:16 64:7, 64:11, 64:19, 154:1, 154:5, 154:13, 24:8, 25:7, 28:22, grave [5] - 50:9, H 43:18, 48:21, 49:9, 67:2, 67:4, 67:8, 154:15, 154:17, 50:10, 65:11, 217:7 71:19, 71:22, 76:4, 154:19, 155:5, 155:8, 49:25, 51:2, 57:12, graveyard [3] - habitat [3] - 93:12, 60:5, 60:23, 61:13, 76:6, 76:13, 79:22, 155:10, 155:12, 65:13, 65:25, 66:1 93:21, 113:6 79:25, 80:11, 83:1, 155:16, 156:5, 156:8, 64:10, 64:20, 66:25, Great [1] - 78:25 half [7] - 50:25, 84:2, 85:13, 86:2, 156:10, 156:12, 67:9, 70:3, 72:16, great [19] - 28:23, 69:23, 120:9, 120:10, 86:10, 87:3, 87:6, 156:20, 156:25, 73:3, 73:4, 80:9, 81:6, 37:23, 41:2, 41:10, 126:5, 132:5, 139:17 87:10, 87:13, 88:24, 157:2, 157:4, 157:19, 83:3, 83:21, 85:23, 43:9, 53:3, 56:9, Hall [11] - 25:25, 89:2, 89:5, 89:7, 157:22, 157:24, 86:7, 86:24, 87:12, 56:19, 59:23, 67:22, 26:1, 26:10, 26:16, 89:21, 89:24, 90:4, 158:1, 159:10, 87:16, 87:21, 89:11, 77:23, 84:20, 93:25, 26:21, 27:14, 32:14, 90:7, 92:17, 94:18, 159:15, 159:18, 89:14, 90:2, 93:2, 94:10, 94:21, 112:25, 65:20, 65:21, 65:23, 94:20, 95:5, 95:8, 159:21, 160:3, 160:8, 93:22, 98:8, 99:3, 156:5, 199:1 66:2 95:13, 95:15, 97:18, 160:13, 160:16, 99:8, 101:2, 101:7, greater [3] - 14:2, hand [1] - 66:1 98:6, 99:9, 99:13, 160:18, 160:23, 101:17, 103:7, 40:12, 113:3 handle [5] - 51:23, 99:15, 99:19, 99:24, 161:1, 161:5, 162:4, 103:19, 104:1, greatest [2] - 8:11, 54:7, 54:15, 71:15, 100:2, 100:4, 100:7, 162:10, 162:13, 106:20, 108:6, 31:13 71:16 112:20, 119:7, 100:11, 100:16, 162:15, 162:17, greatly [1] - 132:20 hands [1] - 92:9 124:12, 124:24, 100:19, 100:24, 163:5, 163:7, 167:15, greetings [1] - 67:12 happy [9] - 7:16, 128:12, 129:24, 101:3, 102:14, 103:8, 169:17, 169:22, ground [5] - 53:20, 82:10, 88:22, 134:7, 103:13, 103:17, 170:4, 170:15, 133:2, 133:8, 133:14, 168:15, 190:7, 192:7, 144:3, 160:1, 160:12, 103:21, 104:7, 170:20, 170:23, 135:8, 137:15, 141:4, 232:10 211:20, 225:21 141:17, 142:15, 104:12, 104:14, 171:2, 171:5, 171:9, grounds [7] - 61:22, hard [6] - 93:7, 143:18, 144:9, 104:18, 104:24, 171:14, 173:24, 62:15, 165:11, 94:24, 94:25, 119:11, 145:22, 146:12, 105:2, 105:4, 106:3, 174:10, 174:17, 165:22, 168:7, 145:11, 201:15 147:13, 150:5, 106:6, 106:9, 106:11, 174:20, 174:24, 170:19, 174:23 harder [1] - 123:19 151:11, 155:15, 106:13, 106:16, 175:1, 175:4, 178:13, groundwater [15] - harm [3] - 219:14, 160:7, 169:16, 170:5, 106:18, 106:22, 178:17, 178:22, 34:21, 185:14, 224:15, 224:18 170:17, 171:12, 107:4, 108:3, 108:13, 180:2, 180:9, 180:13, 185:18, 187:9, harm's [1] - 41:11 171:17, 173:25, 108:15, 109:16, 180:16, 180:19, 187:13, 188:9, harmful [1] - 227:18 174:13, 178:8, 109:21, 109:24, 180:22, 181:1, 181:4, 188:23, 191:16, harvest [1] - 46:6 192:19, 198:22, 110:1, 110:3, 110:6, 192:24, 193:2, 205:19, 205:22, harvested [1] - 202:22, 204:8, 212:2, 111:3, 111:9, 111:12, 196:12, 198:15, 205:25, 206:2, 206:8, 218:13 221:9, 223:2, 226:5, 111:14, 111:16, 198:17, 199:5, 207:5, 224:3 Hawks [1] - 137:25 230:6, 230:7, 233:20 111:24, 112:2, 112:4, 202:20, 202:23, Group [1] - 3:7 hay [1] - 91:16 governor [4] - 28:23, 112:6, 112:18, 204:5, 204:7, 211:21, group [4] - 26:13, hazard [1] - 75:2 61:2, 97:19, 116:22 116:10, 118:22, 211:23, 216:15, 57:10, 71:3, 217:1 head [1] - 91:15 GOVERNOR [328] - 118:24, 119:4, 216:18, 221:3, 221:5, groups [1] - 175:15 headquarters [1] - 1:4, 1:9, 3:3, 4:3, 124:21, 129:15, 221:8, 225:23, grow [3] - 12:13, 42:11 4:12, 4:15, 4:17, 4:19, 129:22, 133:3, 133:7, 225:25, 229:16, 212:19, 225:10 healing [1] - 55:10 5:9, 5:12, 5:14, 5:20, 133:18, 135:7, 137:7, 229:20, 230:4, 231:7, growing [8] - 128:15, Health [1] - 39:18 6:8, 6:11, 6:13, 6:15, 137:13, 141:3, 141:9, 232:25, 233:11, 141:14, 142:10, 233:14, 233:16 130:12, 212:16, health [2] - 120:23,

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227:10 58:16, 64:3, 68:18, HOLLY [2] - 116:21, 123:16, 132:2 impact [7] - 62:2, healthcare [6] - 68:24, 117:25, 118:4, 118:25 huge [3] - 116:23, 64:4, 78:22, 123:10, 22:15, 42:21, 46:13, 121:25, 123:21, holocaust [1] - 31:5 140:6, 228:16 123:24, 222:14 46:14, 46:16, 46:17 127:25, 130:3, home [8] - 22:15, human [2] - 38:9, impacted [1] - hear [1] - 61:5 136:25, 144:1, 31:9, 32:4, 61:25, 63:23 223:13 heard [9] - 67:24, 227:25, 228:19 91:14, 117:8, 131:15, humbly [1] - 173:22 impacts [6] - 123:11, 118:14, 141:24, helped [5] - 14:2, 131:21 hundred [11] - 10:10, 156:2, 156:3, 194:5, 142:2, 178:10, 28:10, 29:20, 30:24, Home [1] - 38:23 40:23, 77:10, 84:6, 208:4, 217:17 178:12, 217:25, 139:7 homeless [1] - 28:12 84:11, 84:12, 88:18, impaired [1] - 226:24 219:1, 223:14 helpful [1] - 184:12 homes [10] - 38:19, 126:13, 126:17, impeded [1] - 38:6 hearing [33] - 4:19, helping [3] - 29:16, 38:20, 38:22, 39:5, 134:13, 232:16 impetus [1] - 201:8 5:20, 6:15, 17:21, 37:18, 60:13 39:13, 40:4, 42:2, hundreds [3] - implement [2] - 13:8, 19:21, 21:12, 22:8, helps [1] - 145:15 42:9, 42:20, 131:6 136:23, 139:14, 207:21 23:6, 24:6, 25:21, Hewitt [2] - 152:24, Homosassa [1] - 139:25 implementation [2] - 32:23, 35:11, 50:5, 160:21 29:7 hunt [1] - 217:20 36:22, 120:9 55:2, 71:3, 89:9, hi [1] - 119:5 honor [3] - 43:1, Hunter [1] - 212:8 implemented [1] - 106:13, 108:15, Hicks [1] - 92:8 129:24, 137:15 hurricane [5] - 109:14 110:3, 111:16, high [15] - 11:13, Honor [1] - 27:23 114:24, 116:3, 121:8, implore [2] - 62:2, 111:21, 112:6, 123:3, 30:11, 39:23, 40:8, Honorary [1] - 128:25, 136:18 63:19 143:5, 148:20, 41:25, 46:4, 80:23, 141:22 Hurricane [1] - 38:7 importance [3] - 154:19, 155:12, 92:24, 101:12, honored [2] - 26:18, hurting [1] - 130:23 129:1, 129:5, 212:13 156:12, 157:4, 158:1, 101:14, 102:18, 69:22 hypocrisy [1] - 63:23 important [30] - 11:8, 162:17, 223:4, 233:16 114:16, 120:25, honors [1] - 26:2 11:23, 12:11, 30:20, Hearing [1] - 7:7 218:18, 228:9 hook [1] - 167:19 I 36:14, 39:9, 50:19, hearings [3] - 6:3, higher [6] - 98:11, hope [13] - 50:5, 51:6, 52:1, 55:9, 60:7, 6:22, 123:3 98:16, 102:5, 102:12, 52:12, 66:22, 91:12, IAC [1] - 158:6 62:22, 68:11, 75:12, heart [1] - 93:20 127:20, 139:25 120:4, 129:11, Icahn [1] - 154:1 75:14, 77:5, 83:11, Heart [2] - 29:13, highest [14] - 8:14, 132:11, 132:25, ID [1] - 5:7 94:4, 127:24, 131:1, 29:19 21:2, 28:7, 77:3, 80:2, 140:23, 172:18, idea [6] - 16:17, 131:2, 155:18, 172:8, Heather [1] - 116:17 82:15, 99:12, 100:6, 199:2, 202:19, 233:25 58:14, 59:11, 59:23, 173:19, 183:16, heats [1] - 123:17 101:16, 138:20, hopefully [4] - 68:22, 60:24, 63:3 188:11, 209:5, heavy [1] - 226:25 138:21, 138:22, 73:16, 76:9, 232:22 ideas [3] - 69:16, 213:22, 214:6, 217:11 Heekin [3] - 162:24, 138:23 hoping [2] - 58:6, 71:5, 75:20 impose [1] - 224:22 209:18, 230:9 highlight [2] - 12:4, 68:9 identical [1] - 184:3 imposing [1] - HEEKIN [46] - 163:6, 27:2 horizon's [1] - 41:19 identifications [1] - 225:11 163:8, 167:16, 170:1, highlights [2] - 33:7, horrors [1] - 72:10 74:1 impressions [1] - 170:10, 170:18, 112:13 hosting [1] - 135:9 identified [10] - 14:6, 54:10 170:22, 171:4, 171:6, highly [1] - 55:3 hotel [21] - 113:3, 50:10, 73:24, 77:22, improve [3] - 113:6, 171:15, 174:5, 174:9, HIGHWAY [1] - 4:1 114:11, 114:14, 169:2, 190:16, 228:2 174:19, 174:21, Highway [4] - 2:3, 114:16, 114:19, 191:12, 205:11, improved [4] - 12:2, 175:6, 178:19, 4:4, 7:13, 8:8 114:20, 116:6, 116:8, 213:18, 214:4 35:12, 91:18, 211:1 178:23, 179:3, 179:6, hill [2] - 91:23, 97:10 118:1, 129:8, 138:1, identifies [21] - IMPROVEMENT [1] - 179:9, 179:14, Hillsborough [1] - 138:19, 139:1, 164:13, 168:10, 49:2 179:19, 179:21, 56:11 139:10, 140:2, 140:5, 187:24, 189:17, Improvement [1] - 180:1, 180:8, 180:12, himself [1] - 182:11 141:6, 145:8, 145:9, 189:21, 189:25, 121:24 181:5, 192:17, hire [1] - 13:13 145:10 190:4, 190:11, improvement [3] - 192:21, 192:25, hiring [1] - 13:17 Hotel [1] - 122:22 190:12, 190:15, 2:11, 63:24, 78:3 193:3, 196:15, historical [3] - 52:16, hotels [3] - 138:2, 190:19, 190:23, improvements [3] - 198:18, 211:24, 58:9, 74:11 138:5, 139:18 191:1, 191:5, 191:8, 77:23, 134:23, 226:21 214:13, 216:19, history [5] - 53:11, hour [1] - 223:3 194:22, 205:4, 207:9, IN [1] - 1:4 221:6, 222:23, 226:2, 74:6, 106:1, 137:23, hours [3] - 31:20, 210:17, 211:2, 214:2 inadequate [3] - 229:17, 229:22, 164:7 78:23, 117:1 identify [3] - 47:15, 199:16, 223:24, 224:4 230:6, 230:17, hit [2] - 17:6, 38:4 house [2] - 72:9, 73:16, 224:1 inappropriate [1] - 230:21, 231:3, 233:5 hold [5] - 63:17, 101:19 identifying [1] - 210:8 held [4] - 16:13, 98:13, 123:7, 194:3, House [1] - 20:18 168:24 include [20] - 31:22, 82:1, 195:4, 195:8 209:16 housed [1] - 65:22 IDs [1] - 73:17 78:21, 80:6, 80:7, Help [1] - 144:7 holding [2] - 60:17, Housing [1] - 154:11 II [1] - 42:6 80:18, 80:23, 81:2, help [21] - 16:10, 194:18 housing [7] - 109:19, illustrious [1] - 27:8 81:13, 82:23, 97:4, 29:5, 29:17, 35:12, holistic [1] - 229:12 118:17, 120:17, immediately [1] - 98:14, 100:20, 40:10, 47:17, 54:13, Holly [1] - 116:16 123:10, 123:14, 71:12 113:11, 126:11,

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158:5, 164:2, 204:15, 142:19 205:14 interpretations [1] - irrigation [1] - 208:19, 209:22, individuals [1] - instead [3] - 125:20, 221:25 197:23 215:25 73:17 196:18, 228:20 interpreted [2] - Islamorada [14] - included [3] - induction [3] - 26:15, institutions [3] - 201:23, 208:5 113:15, 115:12, 195:24, 196:18, 210:3 26:20, 27:14 11:13, 37:13, 37:21 interstate [1] - 53:16 115:19, 116:19, includes [9] - 10:5, indulge [1] - 7:12 instrument [1] - intertwined [1] - 125:1, 125:2, 125:15, 12:15, 27:15, 31:20, industrial [2] - 77:21 59:15 125:20, 126:1, 186:4, 197:17, 185:19, 187:14 instruments [1] - intervene [11] - 126:20, 127:1, 197:19, 200:3, 210:16 industries [1] - 78:2 167:9, 175:8, 175:11, 127:15, 127:19, 129:3 including [14] - 232:17 Insurance [5] - 2:7, 175:23, 176:3, 176:7, Islamorada's [3] - 13:16, 80:15, 81:11, industry [4] - 20:8, 19:5, 20:11, 21:20, 177:5, 177:9, 180:6, 125:7, 125:11, 127:9 81:14, 92:20, 92:21, 122:24, 140:3, 140:5 22:17 180:17, 180:18 island [1] - 117:8 97:8, 158:17, 164:2, inexpensive [1] - INSURANCE [1] - intervening [2] - Islands [1] - 125:1 204:20, 205:25, 206:6 19:1 177:11, 178:11 islands [2] - 120:23, 206:8, 208:12, 223:12 inexpensively [1] - insurance [9] - 20:7, intervention [3] - 125:3 incomplete [1] - 84:14 20:13, 23:11, 23:14, 176:23, 177:12, issuance [4] - 45:20 infantry [1] - 29:12 124:2, 124:5, 124:6, 177:13 115:24, 143:11, inconsistent [2] - influence [2] - 14:8, 139:3, 139:4 interviewee [1] - 154:7, 154:10 199:15, 209:15 44:16 insurer [1] - 23:21 158:21 issue [29] - 4:24, 5:3, incorporated [1] - inform [2] - 63:4, intact [1] - 97:6 introduce [3] - 7:13, 5:5, 11:16, 35:2, 35:6, 217:1 166:9 integral [1] - 128:19 7:22, 163:2 35:14, 35:15, 41:16, incorporating [1] - informally [1] - 46:7 intend [1] - 202:6 introduced [1] - 48:1, 54:3, 55:4, 120:13 information [14] - intended [3] - 113:5, 220:10 59:15, 118:1, 123:22, increase [10] - 10:16, 10:18, 13:1, 13:4, 164:14, 208:16 invasive [1] - 78:24 165:9, 170:24, 11:20, 13:13, 40:17, 15:15, 30:19, 33:17, intense [1] - 231:25 invest [1] - 232:11 172:15, 173:6, 41:5, 41:23, 42:5, 51:18, 51:24, 59:6, intent [8] - 68:19, investigations [2] - 173:13, 173:18, 130:17, 210:24, 225:6 60:11, 74:12, 78:13, 91:12, 122:7, 194:5, 58:7, 59:2 174:8, 204:25, increased [6] - 108:24, 126:12 209:24, 210:11, Investment [1] - 205:18, 211:13, 10:21, 11:14, 11:17, infrastructure [3] - 228:24, 229:14 159:8 212:14, 221:15, 41:1, 136:1, 206:3 127:12, 128:10, interactions [1] - investment [10] - 221:17, 233:23 increases [3] - 215:20 28:17 11:21, 41:25, 46:4, issued [6] - 130:25, 225:14, 225:15, inhabit [1] - 91:25 interest [7] - 137:3, 94:16, 99:2, 154:23, 131:3, 146:11, 225:16 initial [6] - 13:4, 166:6, 194:12, 156:16, 156:18, 165:13, 166:14, increasingly [1] - 13:10, 26:13, 43:10, 208:24, 209:3, 209:9, 226:20, 227:4 216:11 42:2 44:11, 65:16 209:10 Investments [1] - issues [26] - 4:24, incredible [2] - initiate [6] - 49:21, interested [4] - 53:1, 154:24 35:18, 36:16, 42:5, 50:16, 56:17 115:25, 116:6, 74:16, 170:11, 193:18 invite [1] - 123:5 45:17, 45:18, 45:22, incredibly [5] - 143:12, 183:12, interesting [1] - invited [1] - 66:14 53:20, 53:21, 54:20, 50:18, 58:2, 59:14, 183:21 231:11 inviting [1] - 39:7 58:8, 117:21, 124:5, 77:5, 233:24 initiated [2] - 166:2, interests [3] - 136:6, invocation [2] - 3:8, 128:8, 135:4, 142:6, independent [1] - 171:19 173:12, 215:8 3:9 162:25, 166:2, 168:2, 168:16, 212:11, 20:5 initiative [2] - 12:8, interface [1] - 39:10 INVOCATION [1] - 222:13, 222:18, independently [1] - 12:16 intern [2] - 68:24, 3:12 227:1, 231:18, 232:3 5:15 Initiative [1] - 204:21 69:1 invoices [1] - 40:3 Item [28] - 4:10, INDEX [1] - 2:1 initiatives [3] - 13:6, internal [2] - 13:17, invoicing [1] - 39:25 19:11, 19:23, 21:15, indicate [1] - 173:3 13:9, 197:24 158:17 invoke [1] - 173:14 22:10, 25:11, 25:24, indicated [3] - injection [1] - 119:20 INTERNAL [1] - 49:2 involved [7] - 55:25, 33:2, 49:12, 76:14, 142:13, 173:17, inmates [1] - 30:25 Internal [2] - 2:11, 57:1, 57:6, 57:11, 76:17, 90:11, 95:17, 210:23 input [5] - 17:11, 121:24 59:12, 124:4, 124:5 95:18, 108:8, 108:17, indicates [2] - 121:9, 17:12, 64:4, 74:15, internals [1] - 158:19 involvement [1] - 109:17, 111:7, 225:9 193:23 internment [2] - 134:2 111:18, 151:19, indication [1] - 172:6 insignificant [1] - 68:21, 75:13 involves [3] - 75:17, 154:6, 154:22, INDICATIONS) [1] - 218:11 interpretation [17] - 204:21, 211:14 155:22, 157:7, 158:4, 105:3 inspection [1] - 168:2, 168:3, 168:17, involving [4] - 58:8, 162:8, 162:19, 213:18 individual [4] - 77:25 168:21, 186:25, 184:16, 208:15, item [64] - 4:13, 4:22, 86:17, 166:22, Inspector [2] - 200:10, 204:16, 229:12 5:10, 5:24, 6:9, 6:18, 182:15, 194:17 157:15, 158:7 206:11, 207:1, 207:2, ipso [1] - 201:10 7:1, 9:13, 9:24, 19:15, individually [7] - installations [1] - 209:13, 211:15, Iran [1] - 155:3 21:6, 22:2, 22:24, 37:12, 67:20, 67:21, 30:8 214:19, 216:5, Iraq [2] - 34:17, 23:8, 23:24, 25:15, 71:2, 71:4, 86:5, instances [1] - 221:19, 228:4 41:14

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32:17, 49:18, 49:21, jobs [1] - 12:13 Juvenile [1] - 5:6 136:16, 136:20, 147:21, 147:23, 56:14, 58:15, 72:17, John [3] - 171:7, juveniles [1] - 5:7 136:23, 137:5, 148:2, 148:7, 148:14, 79:23, 85:17, 85:25, 171:18, 195:18 137:18, 137:23, 148:22, 150:4, 86:9, 87:17, 89:3, Johns [35] - 91:20, K 137:25, 138:6, 138:7, 150:10, 162:7, 162:19 93:17, 95:2, 95:11, 93:12, 162:21, 138:15, 138:17, 98:10, 99:4, 99:10, 163:10, 164:10, Kansas [1] - 31:8 139:18, 140:6, 140:9, L 104:11, 105:5, 106:7, 169:3, 171:20, Karels [1] - 89:13 141:1, 141:23, 109:22, 111:10, 175:18, 177:20, KARELS [17] - 90:2, 148:25, 231:23 laboratory [1] - 111:25, 112:8, 179:15, 195:3, 90:6, 90:8, 92:11, Keys' [1] - 143:21 73:13 142:12, 142:19, 204:12, 204:14, 92:20, 95:17, 99:12, kidneys [1] - 227:22 LaCroix [3] - 26:24, 144:25, 155:6, 156:6, 204:18, 205:15, 99:14, 99:16, 99:25, kids [3] - 66:10, 28:4, 28:9 157:20, 159:25, 206:18, 207:17, 100:3, 100:6, 100:10, 70:25, 71:1 ladies [1] - 33:1 162:11, 162:25, 208:1, 208:6, 208:15, 100:14, 100:17, Kilbee [8] - 90:12, laid [1] - 203:6 166:17, 166:21, 210:5, 211:17, 216:9, 100:23, 105:5 90:20, 91:8, 93:5, lake [1] - 88:13 166:24, 167:2, 167:4, 216:11, 217:12, Karen [7] - 158:13, 98:24, 103:7, 103:16, Lake [2] - 39:14, 167:11, 167:17, 217:14, 220:1, 224:4, 158:18, 158:24, 104:11 213:19 170:2, 170:10, 226:3, 226:8, 226:11, 195:12, 195:16, killed [1] - 70:7 lakes [1] - 231:22 170:12, 175:6, 181:5, 226:13, 226:18, 216:23, 216:24 Killingsworth [4] - LAND [2] - 150:1, 182:24 227:22, 228:2 Karen's [1] - 159:5 112:12, 112:17, 162:1 Items [1] - 156:15 Johns' [2] - 204:15, Katie [1] - 160:20 122:4, 142:13 land [30] - 54:18, items [17] - 4:9, 9:12, 205:20 keep [11] - 38:21, KILLINGSWORTH 55:23, 69:21, 70:6, 12:4, 19:9, 25:10, joined [1] - 212:5 39:1, 39:5, 55:5, 55:6, [2] - 112:19, 144:14 70:24, 76:3, 77:4, 49:10, 58:11, 78:22, joining [1] - 227:13 91:12, 102:16, Kimmerle [18] - 50:6, 77:8, 78:13, 78:14, 89:12, 90:11, 102:11, joint [3] - 5:5, 133:19, 140:23, 50:15, 50:25, 54:4, 78:21, 84:17, 93:14, 107:3, 111:6, 150:6, 175:19, 177:18 157:10, 232:9 56:8, 58:24, 59:3, 93:24, 104:4, 113:11, 162:7, 213:13, 219:23 Joint [2] - 6:6, Keeper [5] - 171:21, 61:6, 61:21, 65:12, 114:8, 118:11, itself [9] - 54:19, 155:23 175:19, 177:21, 66:13, 66:16, 70:9, 122:17, 128:8, 128:9, 165:18, 168:9, 177:3, Jon [4] - 49:5, 76:8, 226:4, 226:8 71:25, 72:5, 72:18, 129:1, 129:3, 129:8, 188:14, 189:2, 196:1, 76:13, 106:16 Keepers [1] - 179:15 73:6, 76:7 134:11, 134:18, 196:5, 230:24 judges [1] - 173:18 kept [1] - 60:12 KIMMERLE [2] - 135:1, 135:3, 136:17, judicial [2] - 166:6, Kevin [3] - 19:4, 73:11, 73:22 142:4 J 209:20 19:6, 24:10 Kimmerle's [3] - Land [6] - 2:17, 2:22, Judy [1] - 56:10 Key [24] - 115:6, 52:2, 56:15, 59:16 78:8, 96:9, 150:6, Jack [8] - 162:24, July [3] - 113:14, 115:24, 116:2, 122:3, kind [7] - 54:14, 162:5 163:4, 163:7, 178:14, 119:17, 166:14 125:19, 129:18, 70:17, 117:14, landing [1] - 144:2 180:5, 192:19, 199:1, jump [1] - 166:25 129:25, 130:5, 117:20, 118:14, landowner [1] - 94:2 230:9 June [4] - 10:4, 130:12, 132:7, 118:17, 131:23 landowners [2] - Jack's [1] - 178:9 111:8, 113:15, 164:17 135:17, 135:18, kinds [2] - 70:16, 88:14, 93:10 Jackson [2] - 53:17, jurisdiction [25] - 135:19, 138:1, 138:2, 74:24 Landry [2] - 67:7, 54:11 123:4, 135:16, 163:1, 143:10, 143:13, kitchen [1] - 62:18 74:21 Jacksonville [1] - 165:6, 165:11, 143:20, 143:25, knowledgeable [1] - LANDRY [1] - 67:9 227:15 165:19, 165:22, 144:19, 145:2, 145:7, 217:16 Lands [7] - 90:15, January [5] - 31:3, 167:4, 169:14, 147:6 known [5] - 45:17, 91:2, 94:7, 94:10, 51:2, 56:23, 72:1, 169:25, 170:21, key [2] - 142:6, 213:8 49:13, 91:25, 92:3, 94:21, 95:24, 96:24 164:24 170:25, 171:23, Key's [1] - 122:23 209:11 lands [9] - 77:14, JAPC [1] - 6:6 172:2, 172:9, 172:12, Keys [56] - 112:10, knows [2] - 65:9, 78:2, 84:13, 88:13, Jeff [1] - 61:15 173:14, 173:22, 113:13, 114:17, 70:9 90:19, 96:23, 120:15, JEFF [1] - 1:10 173:23, 186:11, 114:22, 115:3, 115:5, Knox [1] - 70:13 121:19, 217:4 Jerry [3] - 129:17, 188:10, 188:25, 115:13, 117:5, 118:7, Korean [1] - 42:7 Lands' [1] - 76:25 129:21, 129:25 205:21, 212:20, 119:9, 120:7, 120:21, Kruse [4] - 2:16, landscape [1] - Jesse [1] - 116:24 219:24 121:1, 121:5, 122:8, 2:18, 2:23, 111:4 197:23 Jim [7] - 89:13, 90:4, jurisdictional [5] - 122:9, 122:12, 123:8, KRUSE [29] - 111:5, language [3] - 118:9, 92:17, 93:1, 94:24, 167:19, 168:7, 123:21, 123:25, 111:18, 112:8, 174:18, 202:1 99:9, 106:19 168:15, 170:18, 124:18, 125:2, 116:11, 119:2, large [4] - 74:17, job [15] - 14:1, 14:2, 193:14 126:10, 126:19, 129:16, 133:5, 137:8, 98:23, 114:7, 131:13 14:3, 16:10, 77:10, jurisdictions [2] - 128:1, 128:6, 128:14, 142:11, 143:8, 144:3, largely [1] - 10:16 83:6, 84:1, 87:1, 23:19, 136:15 129:2, 129:13, 144:8, 144:12, larger [1] - 231:18 93:11, 93:25, 94:9, Justice [1] - 5:6 134:17, 135:9, 145:21, 146:3, largest [7] - 26:8, 120:3, 155:18, 199:1, justification [1] - 135:11, 135:15, 146:10, 146:16, 135:15, 135:21, 230:8 109:7 135:21, 136:4, 136:7, 146:20, 147:8, 135:22, 137:22,

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217:13 left [2] - 120:3, levied [1] - 126:25 224:18, 230:15 looks [2] - 54:19, Largo [3] - 125:19, 134:21 Lewis [3] - 179:19, listen [1] - 232:7 131:23 135:17, 135:18 legal [4] - 181:14, 216:19, 216:22 listened [1] - 231:16 Lord [1] - 70:9 Larry [2] - 26:23, 211:15, 212:11, LEWIS [2] - 179:20, listing [2] - 172:14, lost [4] - 56:6, 56:20, 27:12 223:14 216:21 224:12 75:1, 144:23 last [23] - 12:21, legend [1] - 31:12 liability [4] - 121:15, live [5] - 29:7, Louisiana [1] - 70:21 23:8, 27:23, 29:8, Legion [2] - 28:16, 121:25, 122:16, 102:15, 120:20, love [5] - 61:25, 65:12, 67:6, 70:23, 31:23 122:19 218:16, 226:12 148:25, 149:1, 71:6, 76:3, 90:3, 91:8, legislate [1] - 68:22 license [4] - 5:1, lived [1] - 31:12 231:20, 232:16 93:23, 130:25, 131:3, legislation [12] - 10:13, 10:19, 10:23 lives [5] - 26:3, loved [1] - 51:13 137:8, 137:11, 138:1, 5:15, 29:4, 29:20, licensed [3] - 11:8, 31:16, 46:18, 56:6, lovely [1] - 131:20 139:18, 144:18, 33:21, 36:18, 69:4, 12:22, 20:6 56:21 low [4] - 92:24, 151:12, 164:25, 118:5, 118:18, 122:5, licensees [2] - 11:6, living [1] - 39:13 96:15, 101:14, 101:18 181:5, 222:10 128:5, 200:15, 210:2 12:23 LMUAC [2] - 78:11, lower [1] - 84:24 lastly [2] - 15:13, legislative [5] - 4:23, licenses [2] - 10:21, 79:1 LOWER [1] - 1:15 196:5 48:4, 52:11, 122:7, 16:15 loan [1] - 9:15 lowest [11] - 92:22, late [5] - 27:13, 209:24 lies [2] - 91:19, 92:1 Loan [1] - 126:24 99:11, 99:21, 100:7, 27:22, 30:22, 86:18, Legislative [2] - Lieutenant [2] - lobster [1] - 149:1 100:13, 100:15, 223:3 155:23, 212:7 26:24, 28:21 local [14] - 29:18, 100:18, 100:21, launch [2] - 12:18, Legislature [9] - life [14] - 29:16, 78:22, 80:7, 115:3, 101:23, 102:2, 102:18 13:2 12:8, 27:11, 32:2, 31:11, 35:9, 35:13, 115:4, 121:5, 127:4, luck [1] - 161:5 launched [1] - 98:19 52:13, 128:12, 202:6, 39:11, 46:18, 65:6, 128:6, 193:11, Luckily [1] - 226:19 launching [1] - 13:12 203:7, 210:12, 228:5 84:21, 120:25, 124:9, 193:20, 194:9, 199:8, lying [2] - 90:19, law [19] - 5:4, 5:14, legitimately [1] - 135:10, 136:7, 137:4, 227:6, 229:9 96:20 8:11, 12:9, 20:2, 203:25 231:20 Local [3] - 208:20, 20:15, 23:13, 27:18, Lejeune [1] - 34:13 life-long [1] - 135:10 209:11, 209:15 M 121:12, 203:11, lend [1] - 141:19 lifetime [1] - 66:22 located [2] - 90:12, 203:13, 203:16, lender [4] - 10:21, lift [1] - 142:1 95:20 ma'am [2] - 67:13, 203:21, 207:8, 209:4, 10:23, 16:15, 47:4 lifted [1] - 164:23 location [1] - 206:5 70:1 217:24, 223:21, 225:1 lending [1] - 61:20 lifting [1] - 165:1 LOCATION [1] - 1:14 machines [1] - 35:10 Laws [1] - 231:14 length [1] - 47:3 light [3] - 54:4, logical [2] - 146:24, Madam [2] - 67:9, lawsuits [1] - 33:23 lengthy [1] - 196:18 74:22, 81:4 177:1 69:20 Lawton [2] - 26:24, Lenny [1] - 227:14 likely [8] - 114:7, long-range [1] - 35:5 magnificent [1] - 28:21 Leon [2] - 27:12, 128:25, 146:11, long-term [10] - 53:24 laying [1] - 231:14 27:22 146:15, 166:9, 169:7, 21:17, 21:22, 22:12, mail [2] - 29:21, lead [3] - 3:8, 8:7, LEON [1] - 235:3 177:7, 208:19 22:14, 53:21, 132:1, 29:24 38:1 less [11] - 82:6, limit [2] - 120:14, 152:20, 152:24, main [1] - 113:1 leadership [11] - 88:18, 98:12, 98:20, 225:5 228:11, 228:20 maintain [3] - 39:10, 10:6, 12:5, 13:10, 101:12, 101:23, limitation [8] - look [37] - 8:4, 8:15, 41:24, 127:25 13:15, 14:17, 32:2, 102:1, 130:5, 215:2, 183:16, 200:4, 8:16, 17:2, 33:8, 43:9, maintained [1] - 40:7, 58:3, 79:12, 226:22, 232:23 200:18, 201:19, 44:9, 50:7, 50:13, 91:17 79:14, 142:7 less-than-fee [1] - 202:10, 202:16, 55:2, 57:10, 70:23, maintaining [2] - leading [1] - 128:1 82:6 224:22, 224:25 72:7, 72:9, 75:18, 114:24, 120:25 leakage [1] - 215:20 lessen [1] - 215:20 limited [10] - 116:7, 75:19, 92:20, 92:23, maintains [1] - 23:21 learn [1] - 50:11 letter [10] - 49:19, 121:7, 186:18, 199:7, 99:6, 107:2, 124:17, maintenance [2] - learned [1] - 54:22 52:24, 55:15, 58:5, 200:24, 203:24, 129:6, 129:10, 134:8, 39:4, 75:7 learning [1] - 50:22 59:1, 74:10, 155:22, 205:12, 206:24, 134:15, 134:20, Major [3] - 27:1, lease [1] - 88:12 165:13, 195:18, 220:5, 230:8 134:25, 140:25, 31:15, 31:17 leases [2] - 77:20, 195:21 limiting [1] - 114:4 142:7, 145:14, major [2] - 48:1, 105:16 letters [2] - 11:17, limits [1] - 225:13 152:25, 153:11, 219:18 least [11] - 16:1, 195:15 line [3] - 13:20, 155:1, 219:18, majority [3] - 131:13, 63:25, 70:23, 71:6, level [15] - 8:5, 8:14, 88:19, 187:25 219:24, 220:23, 191:25, 192:1 122:23, 144:17, 30:9, 40:9, 45:2, lingered [1] - 48:6 232:20 mammal [1] - 98:23 189:14, 192:2, 127:8, 127:20, Lisa [3] - 179:14, looked [1] - 12:21 man [2] - 7:20, 154:4 193:25, 195:5, 207:3 164:13, 168:11, 226:3, 226:8 looking [14] - 13:6, Managed [1] - 78:16 leave [1] - 177:17 172:7, 207:11, list [6] - 25:24, 28:24, 41:21, 52:14, 59:17, managed [5] - 38:4, leaves [2] - 89:15, 215:13, 215:14, 34:4, 82:5, 155:2, 72:19, 81:9, 85:16, 38:25, 77:8, 217:24 121:13 228:9, 228:15 158:18 99:17, 197:12, 215:4, Management [29] - leaving [1] - 100:4 LEVEL [1] - 1:15 List [1] - 95:24 227:21, 228:14, 78:9, 162:21, 163:10, led [2] - 3:10, 34:1 levels [1] - 228:15 listed [3] - 224:9, 228:19, 229:1 163:15, 163:19,

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164:10, 172:24, 112:19, 116:22, 202:8, 202:11, 207:4 3:5, 4:11, 19:12, 212:6, 214:13 175:22, 181:11, 145:17, 147:20, means [6] - 75:22, 25:12, 51:3, 56:1, MERRIAM [2] - 181:22, 183:12, 150:3, 151:7 139:3, 187:9, 200:23, 76:22, 83:25, 87:6, 179:5, 214:15 199:13, 201:9, markers [1] - 65:11 215:14, 218:2 87:7, 108:9, 111:8, met [9] - 26:11, 203:11, 203:14, market [2] - 123:17, meant [3] - 58:15, 123:7, 128:17, 129:6, 126:1, 169:19, 204:13, 208:6, 210:6, 152:17 202:5, 222:18 157:13, 162:9, 174:14, 198:8, 213:2, 216:10, marketability [1] - measurable [1] - 195:11, 195:13, 210:25, 229:2, 229:3, 216:12, 218:8, 218:9, 92:4 113:5 196:7, 233:18, 233:19 231:5 219:10, 220:1, markets [3] - 153:18, Measure [20] - 10:16, MEETING [3] - 1:4, metals [1] - 227:1 220:22, 224:5, 153:19, 161:6 10:20, 11:12, 11:15, 1:14, 234:2 meters [1] - 215:3 225:20, 227:6 Master [3] - 26:23, 33:11, 35:2, 35:20, meetings [5] - 33:24, method [1] - 217:6 management [28] - 28:3, 28:6 36:8, 36:11, 36:24, 194:4, 194:23, 195:5, methods [1] - 217:10 77:4, 77:9, 78:14, matches [1] - 80:7 38:19, 39:15, 39:22, 229:11 metric [1] - 11:9 91:13, 97:2, 105:11, mater [1] - 40:15 77:3, 77:11, 77:13, meets [1] - 189:13 metrics [4] - 10:7, 109:6, 155:25, material [2] - 156:2, 77:17, 77:18, 77:22, megawatts [1] - 79:8 14:8, 43:13, 44:13 167:24, 172:4, 156:3 80:1 member [4] - 30:11, METZKE [3] - 1:17, 175:20, 177:1, 177:3, materials [1] - 20:24 measure [11] - 10:12, 45:19, 216:22, 216:23 235:5, 235:11 177:18, 186:8, 193:6, math [1] - 138:3 12:1, 12:2, 17:7, MEMBERS [1] - 1:9 MFLs [5] - 207:14, 197:10, 204:18, matter [25] - 45:25, 35:22, 37:2, 77:3, members [26] - 14:5, 208:12, 218:7, 219:1, 204:22, 205:15, 49:16, 50:14, 51:25, 82:1, 83:4, 98:21, 19:8, 20:17, 24:9, 219:2 210:7, 212:19, 216:6, 55:22, 59:24, 102:24, 101:15 30:16, 34:15, 37:16, middle [2] - 53:21, 216:8, 220:20, 163:12, 165:14, measurements [1] - 39:8, 40:24, 56:6, 70:12 223:22, 226:20, 232:1 166:15, 167:2, 168:6, 43:8 56:20, 93:2, 108:7, might [16] - 16:1, Manager [1] - 133:15 168:14, 173:23, measures [27] - 10:6, 124:24, 133:9, 33:23, 34:25, 37:21, manager [1] - 78:21 178:5, 181:21, 182:2, 10:9, 10:11, 14:10, 141:17, 143:9, 45:22, 46:19, 51:15, managers [1] - 78:15 182:16, 198:19, 14:15, 14:16, 33:3, 151:11, 167:21, 52:20, 57:12, 66:13, managing [1] - 201:21, 204:15, 33:6, 36:14, 43:12, 171:18, 174:21, 81:4, 83:24, 130:3, 219:19 209:18, 211:5, 47:6, 76:19, 76:24, 193:21, 212:3, 135:23, 144:17, mandamus [1] - 223:15, 225:21 77:2, 77:25, 78:4, 219:12, 221:9, 223:9 216:14 166:13 matters [5] - 16:5, 78:8, 79:6, 79:13, membership [2] - Mike [5] - 25:4, mandate [1] - 166:14 16:7, 16:18, 51:10, 79:21, 85:11, 197:11, 217:8, 226:9 43:15, 48:19, 116:18, mandated [2] - 58:13 197:21, 230:23 memorandum [1] - 124:25 11:25, 126:8 Mayfield [3] - 120:5, Measures [2] - 116:3 mile [1] - 16:22 mandatory [2] - 126:20, 132:19 10:10, 43:20 memorial [1] - 66:10 miles [1] - 79:10 35:9, 195:9 Mayor [6] - 116:18, mechanisms [1] - memorialized [1] - military [13] - 26:2, manifest [1] - 39:5 129:16, 129:17, 120:14 75:21 26:4, 27:17, 28:8, manmade [1] - 38:8 129:21, 129:25, mediation [3] - memorials [1] - 28:25, 29:5, 29:20, manner [2] - 37:1, 227:14 23:11, 23:13, 23:22 72:24 30:5, 30:7, 30:15, 77:17 MAYOR [3] - 124:23, Medicaid [1] - 46:20 memories [1] - 54:10 31:2, 31:8, 32:10 manuals [1] - 13:23 129:23, 133:4 medical [5] - 35:9, memory [1] - 65:17 Military [2] - 29:19, mapping [1] - 50:7 mayor [1] - 125:1 42:5, 42:22, 46:14, men [5] - 8:8, 41:10, 32:11 Marathon [9] - McCarty [8] - 2:7, 46:21 63:17, 63:18, 71:14 million [22] - 37:20, 113:19, 115:12, 19:4, 19:7, 19:23, medically [1] - 42:18 mention [2] - 13:22, 90:25, 96:8, 96:13, 115:19, 129:19, 21:14, 22:10, 23:8, meet [34] - 7:18, 123:24 113:17, 113:20, 133:11, 133:22, 24:8 20:20, 37:9, 38:10, mentioned [11] - 113:25, 120:8, 134:6, 137:25, 140:16 McClellan [2] - 41:17, 43:3, 54:13, 57:24, 91:18, 122:4, 121:20, 122:1, March [10] - 11:19, 34:21, 34:25 71:2, 86:4, 127:12, 177:19, 178:1, 126:17, 126:20, 76:21, 146:5, 147:7, McPherson [4] - 128:24, 129:4, 182:22, 185:4, 126:21, 126:22, 147:12, 147:14, 26:25, 29:25, 30:1, 163:22, 164:14, 191:18, 195:23, 130:18, 131:8, 147:17, 148:6, 30:14 176:11, 184:18, 218:15 132:17, 132:20, 148:12, 162:9 mean [11] - 46:24, 186:13, 186:15, mentor [1] - 30:11 154:11, 207:25, Marianna [4] - 53:14, 53:17, 53:19, 54:22, 186:22, 187:23, merely [3] - 167:9, 229:1, 232:16 62:4, 62:25, 70:11 56:21, 72:11, 83:8, 192:2, 194:10, 173:1, 196:18 millions [4] - 136:23, Mariannans [1] - 153:17, 160:6, 194:18, 206:9, merit [1] - 230:3 139:14, 140:1, 227:4 54:11 185:13, 233:23 208:16, 213:14, Merit [1] - 31:23 mind [3] - 131:8, Marine [2] - 27:16, meaning [3] - 186:1, 213:21, 214:5, 214:9, merits [8] - 109:7, 140:23, 172:19 30:4 202:2, 221:24 223:24, 225:17, 167:13, 169:10, minds [1] - 34:12 Marines [1] - 34:15 meaningful [2] - 228:23, 229:14, 179:17, 181:7, mine [2] - 60:23, Mark [10] - 2:16, 43:8, 54:25 231:23 192:21, 198:12, 233:6 201:5 2:18, 2:23, 111:4, meaningless [3] - meeting [23] - 3:4, Merriam [3] - 179:3, minimum [4] -

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169:19, 174:14, morning [20] - 3:3, 177:16, 180:16 192:17, 192:21, narrow [1] - 59:3 215:12, 228:15 4:6, 4:7, 9:6, 9:8, MOTOR [1] - 4:1 192:25, 193:3, narrowed [1] - 59:8 minor [1] - 219:17 19:6, 19:7, 19:8, 25:6, Motor [2] - 2:3, 4:5 196:15, 198:18, narrowly [1] - 187:1 minute [2] - 10:17, 49:7, 49:8, 64:19, mouthful [1] - 78:10 199:6, 203:4, 203:10, NAS [1] - 122:3 150:9 64:20, 65:14, 67:8, move [17] - 5:4, 204:4, 211:24, 212:2, nation [1] - 26:9 minutes [7] - 4:11, 67:9, 90:2, 90:8, 40:20, 40:23, 61:7, 214:13, 214:15, National [5] - 20:10, 19:12, 25:11, 25:13, 108:6, 174:2 68:23, 82:10, 104:21, 216:19, 216:21, 21:20, 29:10, 95:22, 108:8, 111:8, 162:9 mortality [2] - 21:18, 106:8, 117:18, 221:6, 221:9, 222:23, 96:21 mirror [1] - 62:5 21:19 142:17, 147:2, 151:5, 223:1, 226:1, 226:2, national [2] - 122:20, mismanagement [1] mortgage [7] - 9:15, 159:1, 169:20, 229:17, 229:22, 158:15 - 220:19 9:16, 10:21, 10:23, 174:13, 174:15, 229:7 230:6, 230:17, natural [12] - 38:5, misplaced [1] - 16:15, 47:4, 154:12 move-over [1] - 5:4 230:21, 231:3, 233:5 38:8, 97:6, 163:24, 210:4 most [16] - 21:23, moved [31] - 4:14, MS [9] - 85:18, 167:25, 169:4, 194:7, mission [3] - 41:22, 22:19, 33:24, 52:18, 5:11, 6:10, 7:2, 9:18, 85:20, 133:6, 133:8, 217:3, 217:10, 225:3, 42:17, 130:1 62:5, 94:4, 97:4, 9:21, 10:14, 17:18, 174:7, 179:16, 228:10, 228:12 model [1] - 134:9 113:8, 119:9, 123:13, 19:16, 21:7, 22:3, 179:24, 204:8, 226:5 Natural [3] - 91:3, modeling [1] - 194:1 134:22, 137:19, 22:25, 23:25, 25:16, multi [1] - 193:14 96:4, 96:10 modification [2] - 138:10, 140:4, 32:18, 69:5, 89:4, multi-jurisdictional nature [6] - 34:7, 88:6, 88:11 146:15, 221:12 108:10, 109:23, [1] - 193:14 176:16, 176:24, modifications [1] - mostly [2] - 84:9, 111:11, 112:1, multifamily [1] - 177:25, 181:9, 231:10 87:19 88:6 117:15, 142:25, 154:12 NCCI [1] - 20:10 modified [1] - 214:25 mothball [1] - 75:10 154:14, 155:7, 156:7, multiple [7] - 31:22, near [4] - 117:22, modify [1] - 85:10 motion [92] - 4:12, 156:24, 157:21, 32:8, 41:11, 56:24, 120:24, 122:3, 206:5 modifying [1] - 47:12 4:19, 5:9, 5:20, 6:8, 160:15, 162:12, 166:4 57:2, 57:11, 208:17 near-shore [1] - moment [2] - 7:12, 6:15, 6:25, 7:7, 9:17, movement [1] - municipal [5] - 120:24 60:8 17:16, 17:21, 19:14, 10:15 185:19, 187:14, nearly [4] - 27:21, moments [1] - 19:21, 21:5, 21:12, moves [1] - 41:20 191:6, 192:9, 215:8 37:20, 91:25, 128:20 135:23 22:1, 22:8, 22:23, moving [9] - 41:5, municipalities [1] - necessarily [2] - monetary [1] - 35:8 23:6, 23:23, 24:6, 43:10, 47:2, 75:16, 196:25 62:21, 82:19 25:14, 25:21, 32:16, [20] money [15] - 29:23, 107:2, 118:4, 118:11, must - 70:10, necessary [6] - 68:18, 75:10, 81:21, 32:23, 79:23, 83:22, 128:22, 173:8 105:23, 124:11, 16:20, 42:18, 47:16, 84:15, 99:6, 99:17, 85:3, 85:5, 85:8, 87:3, mowed [1] - 66:4 127:11, 163:25, 182:1, 182:2, 213:13 100:8, 100:9, 100:21, 87:5, 89:2, 89:9, 95:1, MR [99] - 61:13, 164:1, 167:8, 167:19, necessity [2] - 46:21, 102:1, 102:17, 95:9, 95:10, 102:21, 64:16, 64:20, 67:3, 167:22, 174:22, 146:21 102:22, 103:4, 103:5, 126:21, 219:12 67:9, 81:6, 81:19, 182:20, 183:1, 183:2, need [38] - 43:16, 103:10, 103:11, 193:9, 198:24, 200:5, monitor [1] - 13:1 81:22, 82:4, 82:17, 43:24, 44:1, 46:17, 103:14, 103:22, 200:21, 202:1, 208:9, monitoring [2] - 82:24, 90:2, 90:6, 51:10, 52:11, 53:19, 90:23, 96:6 104:8, 104:10, 90:8, 92:11, 92:20, 208:11 57:3, 60:20, 65:10, 104:20, 106:6, mutually [1] - 205:6 Monroe [12] - 93:1, 95:17, 97:19, 67:13, 67:14, 68:5, 106:13, 108:15, 113:23, 114:1, 99:12, 99:14, 99:16, Myer [1] - 69:7 70:22, 70:23, 71:6, 109:21, 110:3, 111:9, 115:11, 115:18, 99:25, 100:3, 100:6, Myers [4] - 27:1, 71:7, 71:16, 77:20, 111:16, 111:24, 116:17, 117:25, 100:14, 100:17, 30:22, 31:7 106:3, 114:8, 122:24, 112:6, 142:23, 143:5, 119:9, 119:11, 100:23, 105:5, Myers' [2] - 31:2, 128:4, 136:23, 152:1, 143:16, 143:18, 121:11, 122:16, 112:19, 133:19, 31:11 160:23, 161:2, 148:4, 148:21, 123:5, 123:6 135:8, 137:14, 141:8, 173:21, 174:17, 154:13, 154:19, 141:17, 144:14, month [5] - 50:24, N 180:4, 202:11, 155:5, 155:12, 156:6, 137:20, 146:5, 146:8, 163:6, 163:8, 167:16, 203:21, 206:24, 156:12, 156:20, 156:4 170:1, 170:10, NAACP [2] - 67:12, 209:23, 213:8, 156:23, 157:4, 170:18, 170:22, 69:17 monthly [3] - 35:7, 220:23, 230:13, 157:19, 158:1, 45:8, 155:25 171:4, 171:6, 171:15, name [8] - 61:16, 231:18 160:14, 162:10, 171:17, 174:5, 174:9, 124:25, 135:10, months [3] - 13:25, needed [6] - 13:24, 162:17, 174:11, 33:13, 120:12 174:19, 174:21, 137:17, 171:18, 109:20, 132:19, 174:12, 175:4, 180:2, 175:6, 178:19, 204:11, 212:3, 216:21 monuments [2] - 199:21, 211:10, 224:8 180:5, 180:13, 178:23, 179:1, 179:3, names [2] - 25:24, 58:10, 74:12 needs [33] - 13:19, 180:15, 180:18, 179:5, 179:6, 179:8, 26:18 morbidity [5] - 54:12, 60:15, 68:20, 180:24, 181:4, 231:8, 179:9, 179:12, NANCY [3] - 1:17, 21:17, 21:18, 21:19, 71:12, 86:5, 104:8, 233:1, 233:3, 233:16 179:14, 179:19, 21:21, 21:23 235:5, 235:11 118:13, 127:12, motions [8] - 167:6, 179:20, 179:21, nancy@metzke. moreover [4] - 129:9, 134:18, 175:7, 175:9, 175:10, 179:25, 180:1, 180:8, 189:10, 191:25, com [1] - 1:24 136:20, 164:15, 175:15, 175:23, 180:12, 181:5, 195:8, 207:19 narrative [1] - 44:12 182:9, 182:13,

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194:10, 197:2, 197:9, 211:25, 216:19, 191:10, 191:17, 139:11, 152:25 169:3, 195:3, 207:17, 208:16, 212:23, 221:6, 222:23, 191:22, 201:16, numerous [3] - 208:15, 217:12, 213:9, 213:14, 223:25, 233:18 205:8, 205:16, 28:17, 91:11, 91:22 217:13, 219:3, 220:14 213:22, 214:5, 214:9, Next [1] - 49:4 205:22, 206:21, 207:6 Nursing [1] - 38:23 Ocklawaha/Silver 219:15, 219:20, NFIP [1] - 124:3 nooks [1] - 75:4 nursing [3] - 32:4, [1] - 220:18 223:24, 224:6, NFL [1] - 131:18 normal [2] - 109:5, 39:13, 42:20 October [8] - 12:9, 225:10, 228:13, nice [3] - 7:10, 119:5, 159:14 nutrient [2] - 226:16, 12:21, 13:3, 79:3, 229:11 133:3 north [2] - 52:3, 226:22 79:18, 109:13, negative [2] - 16:9, Nick [1] - 212:3 125:16 Nweze [1] - 67:11 233:19, 235:7 62:21 Nicolas [1] - 178:23 northern [1] - 96:21 OF [13] - 1:1, 1:4, negatively [1] - night's [1] - 151:12 Northwest [1] - O 1:11, 3:13, 9:1, 19:1, 139:23 nine [1] - 41:13 175:20 25:1, 49:1, 108:1, neglect [1] - 53:21 ninety [1] - 99:23 northwest [1] - 70:18 Obi [1] - 67:11 151:1, 235:3, 235:3 neglecting [1] - 75:9 nitrogen [1] - 226:25 not-for-profit [1] - object [2] - 95:6, OFF [1] - 159:20 negotiate [1] - NO [39] - 2:1, 5:19, 217:1 95:7 offense [1] - 99:5 105:16 6:14, 17:15, 19:20, notably [1] - 184:1 objected [1] - 166:11 offer [2] - 60:24, negotiating [1] - 21:11, 22:7, 23:5, note [5] - 11:9, objections [38] - 87:23 77:12 24:5, 32:22, 76:5, 11:23, 27:8, 172:3, 4:17, 5:18, 6:13, 7:5, offered [1] - 8:3 negotiations [2] - 89:1, 89:8, 94:19, 222:4 19:19, 21:10, 22:6, offers [1] - 91:11 82:14, 82:18 106:5, 106:12, noted [1] - 209:18 23:4, 24:4, 25:19, office [5] - 19:24, Nehmer [3] - 34:1, 108:14, 110:2, notes [2] - 207:19, 32:21, 87:11, 88:25, 45:7, 49:20, 82:10, 45:3, 45:4 111:15, 118:23, 235:6 89:7, 95:5, 106:11, 231:15 neighbor [1] - 143:4, 148:19, nothing [6] - 66:8, 108:13, 110:1, Office [10] - 2:5, 2:7, 131:17 154:18, 155:11, 132:10, 179:5, 111:14, 112:4, 143:3, 2:9, 9:4, 19:4, 20:19, neighborhood [1] - 156:11, 157:3, 199:23, 224:24 148:18, 154:17, 20:22, 22:17, 56:11, 38:15 157:25, 162:16, notice [6] - 5:25, 6:4, 155:10, 156:10, 79:6 neighboring [1] - 175:3, 178:16, 181:3, 6:19, 6:23, 111:19, 157:2, 157:24, OFFICE [3] - 1:22, 83:19 196:14, 198:16, 111:22 162:15, 175:2, 9:1, 19:1 Nelson [1] - 158:12 204:6, 211:22, noticed [1] - 196:7 176:16, 181:2, 184:3, officer [1] - 29:12 net [3] - 151:16, 216:17, 221:4, notification [1] - 184:5, 184:11, Officer [7] - 61:14, 155:3 225:24, 233:15 89:17 195:19, 195:25, 157:15, 157:16, never [5] - 56:17, nobody [1] - 46:24 November [1] - 196:1, 233:14 158:10, 158:13, 204:9 66:5, 68:19, 70:10, nominees [3] - 130:10 objective [3] - 76:23, OFFICER [1] - 1:10 132:14 26:12, 26:19, 27:2 NRCS [3] - 90:21, 173:4, 231:13 Officers [1] - 32:12 new [30] - 7:13, 10:5, non [1] - 126:25 91:3, 96:11 objectives [2] - offices [5] - 35:24, 12:11, 13:24, 14:1, non-ad [1] - 126:25 nullify [2] - 183:10, 47:13, 172:24 35:25, 43:7, 45:7, 22:20, 33:21, 48:5, noncompliance [1] - 183:19 objects [2] - 177:12, 135:16 53:12, 55:1, 74:23, 38:1 number [29] - 4:25, 177:13 official [1] - 135:12 114:4, 131:17, 138:1, none [28] - 4:19, 10:12, 11:16, 11:20, obligation [2] - officials [3] - 128:21, 139:10, 172:17, 5:20, 6:15, 7:7, 17:21, 17:2, 34:2, 34:3, 35:3, 23:17, 197:7 129:7, 193:21 172:22, 185:17, 19:21, 21:12, 22:8, 35:20, 35:22, 35:23, obligations [2] - OFR [11] - 9:12, 9:13, 187:12, 190:6, 192:6, 23:6, 24:6, 25:21, 36:9, 36:12, 38:13, 127:6, 198:9 9:24, 10:2, 10:5, 199:9, 199:18, 32:23, 89:9, 106:13, 51:20, 53:7, 62:12, observations [2] - 11:13, 12:6, 13:12, 199:20, 199:23, 108:15, 110:3, 80:20, 80:25, 81:21, 43:18, 51:18 14:14, 14:16, 47:1 221:17, 232:17 111:16, 112:6, 143:5, 86:19, 114:7, 114:9, observe [1] - 217:21 oil [2] - 34:18, 48:8 news [1] - 86:18 148:20, 154:19, 114:23, 116:8, obsolete [2] - 88:3, OIR [1] - 23:18 next [44] - 4:3, 5:24, 155:12, 156:12, 139:10, 146:11, 109:20 Okeechobee [9] - 9:3, 12:14, 13:7, 19:3, 157:4, 158:1, 162:17, 168:10, 223:9 obtain [2] - 5:1, 35:8 61:17, 62:6, 62:7, 25:3, 38:13, 40:19, 177:8, 233:16 Number [27] - 4:10, obviously [3] - 62:8, 62:10, 62:16, 40:21, 41:19, 45:10, nonpermanent [2] - 5:24, 16:15, 16:16, 54:20, 172:6, 173:16 62:18, 62:24, 63:6 47:21, 48:3, 54:11, 127:13, 127:17 19:11, 19:24, 21:15, occasion [1] - 86:17 old [2] - 130:7, 201:5 55:8, 62:20, 64:17, nonprofit [1] - 29:17 22:10, 35:2, 35:20, occupancies [1] - oldest [1] - 135:14 78:7, 83:25, 85:12, nontraditional [26] - 36:9, 36:12, 36:24, 138:21 Oliver [2] - 20:25, 87:2, 87:6, 87:7, 185:23, 186:6, 186:9, 39:15, 39:23, 49:12, occupancy [2] - 21:2 89:12, 108:3, 111:3, 186:24, 187:18, 77:4, 90:11, 95:17, 38:19, 114:16 OLSEN [2] - 223:1, 114:5, 116:16, 188:2, 188:5, 189:9, 95:18, 103:16, 105:5, occur [5] - 36:18, 226:1 126:11, 129:17, 189:19, 189:23, 109:17, 142:18, 83:20, 134:18, 221:1 Olsen [3] - 179:9, 131:17, 131:21, 190:2, 190:6, 190:13, 143:7, 170:8, 231:1 occurring [1] - 179:12, 222:23 131:24, 145:25, 190:16, 190:21, numbers [6] - 44:9, 134:16 on-line [1] - 13:20 146:4, 148:12, 175:6, 190:24, 191:2, 78:25, 81:8, 132:9, Ocklawaha [8] - on-site [1] - 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on-the-job [1] - 14:2 operating [3] - 40:8, order [21] - 11:2, 11:2, 31:2 paragraph [1] - once [6] - 16:19, 138:22, 139:1 13:24, 20:20, 29:21, overall [3] - 81:2, 208:21 33:13, 146:19, 166:7, Operation [1] - 34:19 103:9, 115:14, 94:15, 194:5 parameters [2] - 188:19, 230:8 operation [6] - 143:21, 151:4, overlap [1] - 232:22 88:18, 145:18 one [98] - 5:21, 8:2, 38:20, 91:15, 97:3, 163:17, 167:24, oversee [1] - 215:15 parcel [4] - 53:14, 8:10, 12:3, 13:22, 105:12, 128:20, 208:9 168:1, 168:16, overseer [1] - 117:14 54:13, 75:23, 83:18 27:7, 28:7, 30:23, operations [4] - 176:17, 176:25, oversight [2] - 79:8, parcels [8] - 83:18, 31:12, 31:13, 39:12, 39:4, 40:5, 91:16, 181:15, 204:14, 79:10 88:17, 102:7, 102:13, 42:22, 42:23, 44:3, 94:13 205:18, 211:19, overstated [1] - 114:7, 121:17, 122:3, 44:14, 45:2, 48:1, opined [1] - 165:21 213:13, 216:2, 219:25 124:2 123:18 52:1, 53:23, 54:22, opinion [3] - 171:25, Order [1] - 29:19 overview [1] - 181:8 pardon [2] - 203:5, 60:3, 62:20, 63:16, 209:25, 210:11 orders [4] - 115:25, overwhelming [1] - 209:16 64:3, 64:23, 65:3, opportunities [6] - 143:11, 147:6, 163:14 158:23 park [2] - 66:9, 75:25 65:5, 65:18, 65:23, 37:18, 37:23, 46:5, ordinance [2] - owe [1] - 50:15 Parks [1] - 78:16 67:24, 69:17, 70:4, 84:18, 98:22, 114:21 117:19, 121:8 own [6] - 27:13, part [22] - 14:24, 83:8, 83:9, 84:17, Opportunity [3] - Ordinance [1] - 60:14, 65:6, 131:15, 15:7, 27:25, 51:19, 88:10, 88:20, 89:14, 112:23, 125:11, 134:5 136:5 177:6 55:9, 56:4, 58:5, 90:18, 91:8, 93:6, opportunity [24] - ordinances [1] - owned [3] - 49:13, 62:25, 77:19, 128:19, 94:4, 94:12, 96:1, 14:9, 43:7, 50:2, 51:3, 113:4 193:12, 193:13 145:7, 200:10, 98:3, 100:16, 100:22, 53:11, 61:19, 72:17, ordinary [1] - 202:2 owner [1] - 135:14 200:11, 200:12, 103:2, 103:18, 104:1, 74:5, 83:18, 84:17, organic [1] - 220:15 owners [4] - 91:11, 202:4, 202:8, 208:22, 104:6, 104:19, 97:20, 113:3, 114:11, organization [5] - 121:16, 127:1, 140:5 217:21, 222:9, 114:13, 115:10, 114:20, 119:8, 46:1, 105:18, 171:21, ownership [3] - 59:7, 229:10, 229:11 115:22, 122:25, 123:23, 124:14, 223:7, 226:9 72:23, 91:10 partially [2] - 120:8, 123:14, 129:3, 131:3, 125:6, 133:22, 145:9, organizations [7] - oxidizing [1] - 207:3 131:4, 132:22, 147:23, 182:23, 20:6, 27:25, 28:11, 220:15 participant [2] - 135:18, 135:21, 215:5, 226:6 30:12, 31:10, 31:11, 29:13, 32:11 138:18, 139:19, Opportunity's [1] - 32:8 P participate [10] - 139:24, 142:1, 112:10 organizing [1] - 29:21, 37:13, 167:7, 144:18, 144:23, oppose [4] - 95:13, 29:17 package [4] - 4:23, 167:9, 171:21, 172:4, 145:19, 146:25, 95:14, 104:18, 227:13 originally [1] - 5:8, 36:20, 97:24 175:9, 175:15, 147:9, 147:10, 155:4, opposed [1] - 227:18 164:19 Page [12] - 189:16, 176:12, 178:2 158:9, 165:21, 166:2, opposition [1] - originators [1] - 9:16 189:20, 189:24, participated [2] - 169:24, 174:1, 227:14 Orlando [8] - 175:13, 190:3, 190:10, 31:9, 195:5 174:22, 185:19, option [15] - 90:18, 176:9, 178:25, 179:4, 190:14, 190:18, participation [2] - 187:14, 187:23, 96:1, 143:19, 145:9, 211:25, 212:4, 190:22, 190:25, 28:11, 57:25 189:14, 192:2, 146:22, 147:9, 173:1, 214:14, 214:17 191:4, 191:7, 199:12 particular [16] - 192:16, 192:20, 173:3, 173:5, 207:10, Osceola [1] - 221:14 PAGE [1] - 2:1 10:18, 93:14, 93:25, 193:25, 200:15, 207:12, 207:13, otherwise [4] - page [1] - 222:7 94:2, 103:25, 104:4, 206:10, 206:13, 208:18, 209:1, 214:5 46:20, 63:10, 204:1, pages [1] - 230:11 104:5, 140:3, 146:21, 214:6, 221:13, 222:1, Option [4] - 142:18, 225:5 Pages [6] - 188:5, 166:21, 183:9, 195:3, 224:1, 225:9, 233:21 144:16, 147:3, 148:5 OUC [1] - 214:2 188:20, 189:2, 197:16, 205:17, ones [3] - 17:2, options [27] - OUC's [1] - 212:6 194:21, 197:13, 213:16, 220:4 51:13, 131:11 115:23, 143:9, ought [4] - 75:15, 197:20 particularity [3] - ongoing [6] - 48:15, 172:14, 172:23, 84:13, 84:15, 84:18 paid [2] - 102:7, 176:16, 183:2, 194:16 51:10, 52:11, 127:14, 172:25, 173:10, ourselves [3] - 127:3 particularly [6] - 136:20, 142:4 189:8, 206:19, 60:10, 134:15, 138:7 painfully [1] - 53:9 13:14, 54:21, 121:6, open [9] - 15:3, 206:24, 207:10, outcome [3] - paint [1] - 14:11 158:11, 212:14, 16:16, 55:8, 82:13, 207:20, 207:22, 164:20, 166:5, 166:8 Pam [2] - 61:14, 231:25 82:17, 166:20, 207:24, 208:2, outcomes [1] - 40:13 214:16 parties [12] - 74:16, 170:13, 193:10, 208:14, 210:16, outlined [1] - 105:10 PAM [1] - 1:9 167:9, 169:3, 170:12, 198:18 211:7, 211:9, 214:8, outlines [1] - 197:13 Pannucio [1] - 173:20, 175:11, open-ended [1] - 214:22, 224:11, outpatient [1] - 116:24 177:11, 178:11, 82:17 224:13, 224:19, 42:23 panther [3] - 93:21, 180:6, 182:15, opened [1] - 138:1 225:5, 225:13, outreach [3] - 44:17, 97:12, 98:24 182:23, 193:18 operate [2] - 105:19, 225:14, 232:13 193:20, 194:24 panthers [1] - 93:24 partner [7] - 92:23, 139:5 oral [5] - 176:14, outset [2] - 182:18, Pap [1] - 35:10 100:1, 100:5, 117:17, operated [1] - 91:10 182:7, 182:17, 186:25 papers [1] - 217:15 120:6, 125:18, 136:15 Operating [1] - 182:19, 182:21 outside [1] - 172:25 paradise [2] - 117:8, partners [3] - 92:18, 157:15 Orange [1] - 34:5 outstanding [2] - 124:19 92:21, 92:22

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partners' [1] - 100:8 31:15, 31:24, 32:6 33:11, 35:2, 35:20, 177:22, 182:6, 187:4, 202:2, 221:24 partnership [11] - Peck's [1] - 31:17 36:24, 38:19, 39:15, 182:10, 182:11, plan [48] - 35:5, 65:1, 5:5, 58:23, 59:23, peer [2] - 20:2, 21:1 43:13, 47:6, 76:18, 183:1, 183:25, 184:4, 65:2, 75:17, 77:9, 81:15, 81:17, 81:21, penalty [1] - 23:21 76:24, 79:13, 79:20, 184:5, 184:15, 116:1, 119:12, 102:8, 117:23, pending [4] - 164:20, 81:25, 85:11, 101:15, 184:21, 185:1, 119:13, 120:13, 124:15, 128:15, 215:7 166:4, 175:7, 175:8 152:20, 152:23, 185:10, 186:15, 120:20, 143:13, partnerships [9] - penetrating [2] - 160:22 186:21, 187:24, 162:23, 163:11, 80:6, 80:16, 80:18, 65:15, 66:4 performing [1] - 193:3, 194:8, 194:16, 163:19, 163:25, 80:24, 81:13, 82:6, Pennsylvania [1] - 11:13 195:12, 195:16, 164:6, 164:12, 168:9, 82:23, 98:15 66:18 perhaps [4] - 57:9, 195:23, 196:21, 172:13, 172:25, parts [2] - 94:5, pension [1] - 156:17 57:16, 82:6, 172:3 198:21, 229:24, 231:3 173:1, 173:3, 173:10, 217:4 people [14] - 17:5, period [11] - 10:4, petitioner [3] - 173:13, 184:25, party [5] - 160:22, 50:8, 56:1, 62:19, 16:8, 81:12, 113:14, 165:15, 168:20, 198:1 194:5, 195:11, 167:6, 176:5, 176:11, 65:23, 67:19, 102:1, 140:13, 146:5, 146:8, Petitioner's [25] - 195:19, 197:1, 197:4, 176:13 127:2, 127:10, 131:5, 155:1, 164:1, 172:16, 164:4, 165:13, 199:7, 199:8, 199:22, pass [1] - 71:4 134:22, 139:19, 173:8 166:10, 167:18, 202:12, 202:14, passage [2] - 5:16, 141:25, 218:21 permanent [5] - 169:11, 169:12, 207:8, 207:15, 210:2 people's [1] - 77:8 93:15, 125:3, 127:9, 169:20, 181:7, 183:6, 207:24, 208:2, 214:2, passed [2] - 9:22, per [4] - 114:19, 145:10, 159:2 183:24, 184:14, 218:14, 222:8, 27:22 130:13, 139:2, 208:1 permission [1] - 185:7, 186:12, 223:19, 223:22, passes [1] - 33:21 percent [73] - 10:11, 61:21 186:25, 187:25, 224:1, 224:16, 225:8, past [16] - 33:25, 11:14, 11:20, 39:25, permit [8] - 114:3, 194:14, 194:21, 228:22 35:16, 38:24, 54:2, 43:21, 43:22, 43:23, 116:2, 143:14, 195:22, 196:15, Plan [7] - 185:3, 55:4, 60:21, 106:25, 44:2, 47:7, 77:4, 169:13, 176:7, 196:21, 198:11, 185:25, 187:20, 113:21, 120:1, 77:10, 80:2, 80:5, 176:23, 200:19, 209:12, 230:2, 230:5, 191:24, 193:7, 120:12, 124:16, 80:13, 80:20, 80:22, 208:10 233:3 193:24, 194:3 126:5, 130:16, 80:23, 80:24, 81:3, permits [12] - Petitioners [2] - Planning [2] - 130:17, 137:2, 159:1 81:9, 81:14, 81:23, 121:12, 130:25, 208:25, 211:17 133:16, 212:8 pasture [1] - 91:18 82:2, 82:15, 82:19, 131:3, 136:12, pharmacy [2] - planning [27] - path [1] - 228:5 84:5, 84:6, 84:8, 144:20, 145:1, 145:3, 29:21, 29:23 113:12, 118:19, pathways [1] - 83:20 84:11, 84:12, 84:25, 146:11, 146:15, phone [1] - 50:24 163:20, 164:1, patience [2] - 91:7, 91:17, 92:22, 197:22, 216:11, phonetics [2] - 3:6, 164:13, 168:11, 132:24, 223:4 92:24, 96:14, 96:15, 223:11 195:17 185:24, 186:6, 187:19, 188:6, patient [2] - 174:3 98:11, 98:12, 98:16, permitted [3] - phonetics) [2] - 188:21, 191:18, Patrol [4] - 7:14, 99:7, 99:11, 99:12, 182:19, 182:22, 195:13, 216:25 7:19, 8:7, 8:9 99:20, 100:12, 182:23 phosphorous [1] - 191:23, 193:9, 193:22, 194:25, Patterson [1] - 97:15 100:14, 100:20, permitting [7] - 226:25 195:1, 204:20, PATTERSON [1] - 101:5, 101:12, 197:16, 208:7, PHOTOGRAPHS [1] 205:17, 207:7, 97:19 101:15, 101:18, 208:12, 208:17, - 8:21 207:11, 212:21, Pattison [2] - 137:11, 102:5, 102:11, 209:3, 219:6, 222:12 phrase [4] - 180:5, 213:1, 214:1, 214:22, 141:18 102:17, 113:16, perpetual [3] - 90:18, 202:4, 202:15, 233:2 215:14, 219:7 PATTISON [1] - 113:18, 113:19, 96:1, 96:18 pick [1] - 131:11 plans [2] - 115:7, 141:17 113:22, 113:23, person [3] - 69:19, picture [3] - 8:20, 219:5 pay [11] - 32:7, 114:1, 124:10, 126:3, 105:17, 176:14 14:11, 152:19 Plant [1] - 119:18 68:21, 68:24, 82:2, 126:13, 138:5, personally [4] - pictures [2] - 72:8 plant [1] - 113:9 82:15, 84:10, 101:13, 151:14, 151:15, 67:17, 68:13, 101:24, piece [6] - 75:1, 101:18, 101:22, 152:2, 220:17 139:9 104:20, 118:5, plants [1] - 125:21 102:1, 127:5 percentage [5] - perspective [2] - 209:25, 210:11, 214:6 play [3] - 118:18, 147:15, 226:12 paying [2] - 102:16, 11:12, 46:11, 92:19, 16:3, 152:1 Pierce [4] - 65:20, 219:10 99:22, 100:5 perspectives [1] - 65:23, 66:2 played [1] - 50:7 player [1] - 57:1 payment [1] - 40:2 perception [1] - 141:25 pilot [2] - 31:20, pleased [1] - 126:4 pays [1] - 139:4 63:20 Petersburg [1] - 129:8 perfectly [2] - pledge [1] - 3:9 PCEC [7] - 172:19, 210:1 pit [1] - 201:5 179:19, 213:19, 122:12, 152:25 petition [5] - 165:25, pits [1] - 34:17 PLEDGE [1] - 3:13 216:22, 216:24, perform [1] - 73:2 167:13, 219:22, place [7] - 12:8, 39:7, plenty [1] - 120:3 217:1, 218:3 Performance [3] - 222:7, 233:6 54:5, 123:13, 128:14, PLGAC [1] - 158:6 PCEC's [4] - 206:11, 36:8, 36:11, 39:22 Petitioner [32] - 138:16, 228:16 plug [1] - 94:8 206:25, 209:25, performance [24] - 164:17, 165:3, 166:3, placed [3] - 128:18, plus [2] - 40:23, 219:12 10:5, 14:12, 14:14, 166:11, 169:18, 164:19, 166:7 121:17 Peck [4] - 27:1, 14:16, 33:3, 33:6, 171:6, 177:12, plain [4] - 186:1, podium [2] - 86:14,

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89:15 positioned [1] - 16:2 168:6 73:17 209:19, 219:4, 222:4, point [25] - 14:9, positive [3] - 54:25, premature [1] - pretty [3] - 39:23, 222:16 16:14, 17:10, 52:24, 56:3, 74:22 58:25 139:12, 231:18 proceedings [8] - 57:9, 58:11, 65:13, positively [1] - 73:16 premier [1] - 138:18 previous [2] - 79:13, 166:4, 175:8, 177:25, 66:14, 76:11, 131:1, possession [1] - premiums [2] - 98:10 181:23, 184:4, 185:5, 145:14, 164:9, 63:9 124:3, 124:8 previously [2] - 229:24, 235:6 167:14, 169:15, possibility [4] - Prendergast [2] - 156:19, 201:22 proceeds [2] - 171:12, 171:16, 62:15, 62:23, 139:22, 2:9, 25:4 price [13] - 84:16, 105:20, 127:5 174:1, 178:6, 192:15, 210:23 PRENDERGAST [7] 84:20, 88:16, 90:24, process [30] - 10:25, 192:17, 196:11, possible [8] - 34:7, - 25:6, 25:23, 32:25, 91:4, 92:18, 94:15, 14:23, 16:12, 20:6, 215:10, 219:6, 42:19, 51:13, 83:19, 44:7, 47:19, 48:11, 95:1, 95:2, 96:12, 20:20, 36:10, 50:4, 219:17, 219:18 119:24, 123:11, 48:20 99:18, 100:11, 100:12 54:19, 69:14, 77:21, pointed [1] - 74:9 126:17, 202:5 preparation [1] - prices [1] - 94:25 83:16, 108:22, 109:1, pointing [2] - 63:21, possibly [5] - 54:13, 193:23 pride [1] - 138:7 184:22, 193:5, 69:24 63:15, 64:2, 136:12, prepare [1] - 42:13 primarily [2] - 193:10, 193:22, points [2] - 68:5, 218:13 prepared [3] - 43:2, 126:23, 164:5 194:15, 194:19, 230:12 POST [1] - 1:22 82:15, 208:10 primary [1] - 130:9 194:25, 196:9, poised [2] - 43:1, post [2] - 28:15, 31:8 preparing [2] - Prime [2] - 155:25, 202:12, 203:7, 209:4, 48:2 Post [1] - 28:16 60:10, 112:25 156:17 213:1, 214:1, 215:15, Poke [1] - 70:21 post-2023 [1] - prescribed [1] - principle [3] - 104:2, 229:10, 231:2, 231:5 policies [2] - 36:21, 114:24 22:21 104:6, 106:24 processed [1] - 109:6 post-military [1] - prescriptions [1] - principles [1] - 33:16 Policy [1] - 159:9 31:8 29:23 209:21 processes [1] - policy [14] - 47:16, posted [1] - 109:10 present [14] - 16:17, priorities [1] - 40:11 44:23 156:16, 156:18, postpone [5] - 86:2, 35:18, 36:3, 36:16, prioritize [1] - 122:2 proclaim [1] - 207:24 168:2, 168:16, 86:3, 86:24, 87:3, 43:4, 45:5, 47:22, priority [6] - 93:23, produced [1] - 172:16, 173:6, 87:5 48:5, 61:7, 61:22, 185:3, 196:17, 130:18 173:13, 173:19, posture [1] - 109:5 134:1, 192:21, 195:9, 228:25, 230:20, product [1] - 117:3 231:11, 232:4, postured [1] - 43:3 233:9 230:22 production [1] - 232:21, 232:22, potential [4] - presentation [3] - Pritam [2] - 137:9, 196:24 232:23 121:15, 121:25, 15:22, 181:12, 182:25 137:17 productivity [1] - pollutants [1] - 34:16 122:15, 122:19 presentations [1] - private [1] - 80:7 222:14 polluted [1] - 34:13 potentially [3] - 194:23 private-sector [1] - professional [3] - pollution [3] - 134:10, 211:2, 223:12 presented [12] - 80:7 133:25, 218:5, 233:24 226:16, 226:22, Powell [1] - 112:24 15:15, 20:24, 40:3, privately [3] - 69:11, professionalism [1] 227:25 power [1] - 215:24 62:13, 89:12, 95:11, 193:13, 226:9 - 8:14 population [13] - powers [1] - 196:25 99:5, 101:11, 104:11, privately-funded [1] professionals [1] - 26:8, 40:18, 41:20, practical [1] - 223:16 184:5, 195:20, 196:6 - 226:9 60:14 42:4, 127:10, 130:7, practice [1] - 157:11 presenting [2] - privately-owned [1] proficiency [1] - 14:4 130:11, 130:12, practices [3] - 98:13, 182:9 - 193:13 profit [1] - 217:1 130:15, 212:17, 197:14, 211:3, 226:21 presents [4] - 36:19, privilege [2] - 51:19, Program [5] - 38:23, 212:23, 215:2, 225:9 precedent [7] - 44:14, 45:9, 169:12 69:22 90:16, 91:2, 96:10, populations [3] - 168:5, 168:19, 169:9, preservation [2] - problem [4] - 84:3, 126:24 98:23, 218:22, 220:17 172:7, 173:8, 173:9, 58:9, 77:13 124:11, 160:7, 220:23 program [25] - 5:7, Porter [4] - 178:23, 173:19 preserve [1] - 30:7 problematic [1] - 23:17, 29:22, 35:5, 211:24, 212:4, 215:6 preceding [2] - Preserve [4] - 95:22, 45:13 37:19, 37:22, 40:5, PORTER [2] - 179:1, 166:20, 195:6 96:22, 105:6, 105:12 procedural [2] - 45:16, 82:18, 94:7, 212:2 precious [1] - 29:23 preserving [3] - 164:7, 165:18 94:8, 94:21, 108:20, portfolio [1] - 156:17 predictability [1] - 122:19, 124:18, procedure [2] - 109:13, 113:4, 113:8, portion [4] - 59:4, 139:13 129:12 221:16, 221:21 114:18, 115:15, 182:8, 210:24, 213:22 115:17, 116:7, predominantly [10] - President [2] - Procedures [1] - 6:7 125:13, 129:8, portions [3] - 185:15, 186:19, 20:17, 212:6 proceeding [21] - 183:11, 183:19, 222:8 187:10, 190:8, 200:5, president [2] - 163:1, 167:7, 171:20, 136:18, 196:20, portrayal [2] - 46:1, 200:22, 203:24, 195:12, 216:24 171:22, 172:5, 197:16 47:24 206:15, 220:6, 228:8 press [1] - 41:15 175:11, 175:16, programs [9] - 13:13, 37:1, 37:2, position [10] - 16:3, prefer [2] - 61:7, presuming [1] - 175:24, 176:3, 55:7, 145:5, 159:4, 98:18 159:5 176:13, 176:24, 37:11, 38:3, 38:14, 38:15, 38:16, 38:18 177:20, 177:21, preferred [1] - presumption [3] - 177:15, 181:8, 177:24, 201:10, 143:19 209:2, 209:6, 209:7 181:20, 182:3, progress [13] - 225:4, 225:19 113:9, 115:16, preliminary [1] - presumptive [1] - 188:15, 188:17,

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117:11, 119:12, 80:3, 82:5, 91:12, 59:6, 79:3, 91:1, 96:9, pulls [1] - 173:9 180:21, 192:16, 231:9 119:18, 119:23, 91:17, 92:1, 92:4, 108:25, 134:4, 172:11 pumping [1] - 215:1 Putnam [24] - 9:11, 120:19, 125:7, 94:14, 97:5, 97:8, provides [5] - 78:13, pun [1] - 209:16 16:2, 25:8, 44:8, 125:12, 126:6, 97:11, 127:1, 127:16, 136:8, 176:3, 186:2, purchase [6] - 81:22, 47:20, 49:10, 61:15, 126:16, 147:24, 227:3 136:13, 137:4, 140:5 187:5 96:12, 100:11, 64:22, 67:1, 67:10, Project [5] - 189:24, proposal [3] - 21:4, providing [6] - 100:12, 104:22, 72:11, 81:7, 97:22, 190:3, 190:14, 191:7, 97:22, 198:7 52:24, 58:4, 166:23, 136:21 101:5, 112:21, 163:9, 192:7 propose [2] - 192:5, 225:6, 225:14, 229:1 purchased [2] - 80:4, 171:19, 204:10, project [38] - 40:22, 192:6 provision [9] - 186:5, 120:17 214:17, 216:20, 74:5, 109:7, 125:14, proposed [20] - 5:25, 186:7, 200:8, 200:14, purchases [2] - 217:3, 222:5, 224:20, 126:21, 127:24, 6:19, 19:25, 23:10, 200:23, 201:8, 101:9, 102:5 225:19 128:3, 173:2, 189:13, 76:17, 79:20, 96:19, 209:16, 221:19, purely [1] - 181:14 puts [1] - 109:4 189:16, 189:20, 111:19, 168:24, 221:24 Purple [2] - 29:13, putting [6] - 55:13, 190:10, 190:18, 169:2, 188:8, 188:22, provisions [14] - 29:19 69:22, 83:6, 86:23, 190:22, 190:25, 189:13, 192:2, 197:8, 157:18, 163:16, purpose [7] - 47:11, 97:23, 200:25 191:4, 191:12, 201:3, 208:18, 217:6, 176:18, 181:16, 62:1, 63:2, 69:17, puzzle [1] - 214:7 201:6, 202:13, 218:24, 219:4, 219:13 183:14, 197:18, 213:23, 224:1, 225:4 206:18, 206:24, proposes [2] - 197:19, 202:7, purposes [14] - Q 207:10, 207:12, 114:10, 192:8 210:19, 220:3, 105:10, 160:1, 207:13, 207:24, proposing [2] - 223:20, 224:25, 163:16, 176:19, qualified [2] - 13:14, 208:14, 208:18, 20:12, 108:23 230:1, 233:7 181:19, 183:14, 177:7 208:23, 208:25, prosecuting [1] - proximate [1] - 188:7, 188:15, qualifies [1] - 206:22 210:16, 211:9, 41:6 123:16 188:21, 191:18, qualify [5] - 169:6, 213:17, 214:3, protect [7] - 98:23, proximity [2] - 91:20, 223:20, 224:25, 176:4, 187:6, 192:3, 218:15, 218:17, 114:22, 120:15, 96:22 230:1, 233:8 205:13 218:18 124:18, 126:9, public [58] - 7:21, pursuant [5] - 88:14, quality [13] - 35:9, project's [1] - 208:9 214:10, 228:11 26:6, 58:18, 60:19, 115:9, 163:13, 35:13, 39:11, 39:20, projected [3] - 114:6, Protecting [1] - 61:3, 61:8, 61:10, 164:18, 203:7 46:18, 113:6, 120:25, 210:24, 223:24 154:23 61:11, 63:20, 69:10, pursuits [1] - 26:6 135:3, 136:7, 137:4, Projects [2] - 185:11, protecting [6] - 71:21, 74:13, 96:22, put [22] - 12:8, 13:5, 222:15, 228:2, 231:20 192:4 93:12, 93:24, 93:25, 111:21, 157:13, 13:15, 46:5, 53:19, quality-of-life [1] - projects [28] - 121:1, 129:12, 226:10 166:21, 166:23, 53:23, 53:25, 57:4, 35:9 126:19, 127:25, Protection [10] - 170:12, 170:14, 69:14, 74:21, 93:23, quantities [1] - 164:14, 168:11, 49:6, 91:2, 94:7, 182:24, 184:22, 94:8, 104:3, 130:3, 186:19 168:13, 168:25, 94:10, 96:10, 122:8, 184:24, 185:19, 145:18, 151:25, quarter [15] - 9:25, 169:2, 169:6, 184:16, 165:4, 193:16, 187:14, 191:6, 192:8, 159:3, 160:10, 201:5, 10:3, 10:12, 10:15, 184:18, 185:9, 204:24, 208:13 192:25, 193:5, 214:19, 214:22, 10:20, 10:24, 11:10, 186:13, 186:15, protection [5] - 193:10, 193:19, 232:20 11:16, 11:24, 12:3, 186:17, 186:21, 113:7, 123:20, 128:8, 193:22, 193:25, PUTNAM [60] - 1:11, 12:14, 14:7, 15:15, 189:3, 189:5, 189:11, 135:4, 224:17 194:4, 194:11, 7:4, 9:20, 14:20, 81:10, 155:1 192:2, 192:6, 192:13, protections [1] - 194:12, 194:15, 15:19, 17:20, 19:18, quarterly [8] - 9:24, 195:2, 197:8, 198:7, 228:16 194:18, 194:22, 22:5, 25:18, 32:20, 10:2, 14:25, 15:6, 208:2, 213:7, 220:4, protects [1] - 213:14 194:23, 195:5, 195:9, 43:17, 46:24, 48:10, 76:18, 79:20, 154:22, 220:9 protocol [1] - 102:20 196:9, 197:24, 48:14, 53:6, 73:4, 158:4 projects' [1] - 208:4 proud [2] - 7:22, 198:19, 203:7, 73:18, 74:7, 79:24, quasi [1] - 209:20 promise [1] - 90:3 67:23 208:23, 209:3, 209:9, 80:1, 80:15, 80:21, questions [35] - promote [2] - 217:2, proudly [1] - 135:17 209:10, 211:11, 81:16, 81:20, 81:24, 14:5, 15:6, 17:14, 225:1 proves [1] - 63:9 212:15, 223:9, 227:5, 82:13, 82:21, 82:25, 48:17, 55:6, 61:5, proper [1] - 177:2 provide [24] - 5:6, 227:11, 229:18, 85:7, 89:4, 89:9, 79:15, 79:17, 83:2, properly [4] - 8:12, 13:17, 39:20, 231:2, 231:5, 232:4 89:14, 89:25, 95:6, 88:23, 88:25, 92:12, 191:12, 192:10, 41:2, 42:11, 44:24, publication [1] - 95:12, 98:8, 99:23, 94:18, 97:14, 98:6, 196:9, 198:8 51:3, 52:2, 52:3, 21:16 101:9, 101:22, 103:3, 106:4, 118:21, properties [7] - 108:24, 112:13, publicly [2] - 69:10, 103:11, 104:13, 118:22, 158:20, 126:3, 126:13, 120:7, 123:15, 196:7 104:16, 104:21, 167:14, 169:15, 135:18, 136:21, 127:11, 127:18, publish [3] - 5:25, 108:11, 141:4, 178:6, 178:14, 136:24, 140:15, 141:7 128:6, 136:1, 144:1, 6:18, 111:19 141:12, 143:17, 192:15, 196:11, property [26] - 23:11, 144:5, 145:9, 181:8, published [2] - 145:16, 146:1, 147:1, 198:13, 198:15, 23:14, 49:13, 50:7, 215:9, 223:9 22:16, 22:20 147:5, 169:16, 204:5, 211:20, 50:13, 54:9, 58:7, provided [11] - 10:2, pulled [1] - 35:22 169:18, 174:13, 211:21, 216:13, 59:2, 60:3, 60:5, 66:9, 33:17, 35:7, 50:5, pulling [1] - 227:20 180:15, 180:18, 216:16, 221:3,

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225:22, 225:23 116:16, 116:20 realtor [1] - 55:21 Recommendation 96:11 quick [1] - 43:17 RASCHEIN [2] - reapply [1] - 11:5 [1] - 142:18 reducing [3] - 114:9, quickly [3] - 54:24, 116:21, 118:25 reason [6] - 72:6, recommendation 122:18, 139:10 74:20, 75:16 Raschein's [1] - 146:19, 156:21, [13] - 26:14, 102:4, reduction [1] - quite [4] - 68:12, 122:11 158:11, 159:19, 104:22, 115:16, 114:12 70:2, 74:2, 226:19 Rate [1] - 136:4 227:19 116:6, 139:8, 142:14, reef [1] - 120:23 quote [19] - 20:20, rate [10] - 20:7, reasonable [8] - 144:6, 144:9, 179:13, refer [4] - 172:19, 58:8, 172:15, 172:16, 20:12, 38:20, 46:3, 47:25, 163:23, 194:6, 229:21, 229:22, 230:4 181:22, 182:2, 184:12 172:22, 173:7, 173:8, 47:8, 114:17, 117:19, 210:23, 222:1, 225:2, recommendations reference [1] - 197:5 173:11, 173:12, 119:15, 121:8, 128:24 228:4, 228:18 [3] - 115:9, 141:20, referenced [3] - 173:13, 176:5, ratemaking [1] - 20:6 reasonably [1] - 142:16 182:12, 184:10, 215:6 196:18, 202:2, 202:3, rates [14] - 21:24, 121:16 recommended [7] - references [3] - 210:22, 211:5, 211:7 22:13, 22:15, 22:16, reasoning [1] - 6:6, 20:22, 25:24, 23:19, 158:22, 197:15 quotes [1] - 21:4 22:20, 22:21, 114:16, 172:12 27:13, 79:14, 85:20, referred [3] - 182:20, quoting [1] - 230:10 124:2, 127:3, 138:20, reasons [6] - 41:8, 87:24 188:16, 200:7 139:25, 217:9 88:1, 139:19, 139:24, Recommended [1] - referring [3] - R rather [3] - 15:6, 144:17, 225:18 85:21 146:12, 166:24, 74:20, 211:7 Rebecca [1] - 112:24 recommending [1] - 230:15 radar [2] - 65:15, rating [4] - 11:13, receipt [2] - 10:13, 85:23 refers [2] - 33:12, 66:4 16:24, 20:6, 40:1 60:11 recommends [1] - 78:12 raise [7] - 12:13, ratings [1] - 35:19 receive [3] - 14:18, 79:19 refilled [1] - 29:24 43:24, 68:18, 69:8, ratio [1] - 114:13 73:8, 77:24 reconsider [5] - refine [3] - 17:10, 92:8, 165:8, 172:15 re [3] - 68:21, 68:24, received [9] - 6:3, 99:4, 99:7, 103:4, 33:9, 44:25 raised [8] - 83:9, 69:1 6:22, 10:23, 11:22, 103:7, 103:16 refining [1] - 43:10 166:3, 173:18, 182:6, RE [1] - 1:4 21:2, 91:11, 111:22, record [34] - 63:24, reflect [1] - 21:18 184:4, 185:5, 204:25, re-intern [2] - 68:24, 126:20, 134:13 167:23, 178:4, reflected [1] - 205:24 221:18 69:1 receives [1] - 209:2 180:10, 180:20, reflects [2] - 201:12, raises [4] - 168:1, re-internment [1] - receiving [1] - 37:13 181:10, 181:25, 211:4 173:6, 173:13, 183:25 68:21 recent [5] - 22:19, 182:4, 182:8, 182:12, regard [4] - 84:4, raising [1] - 168:16 reach [1] - 123:19 114:18, 130:13, 182:16, 182:21, 89:16, 118:11, 218:25 ramifications [1] - reached [2] - 8:3, 139:1, 158:22 188:18, 194:13, regarding [22] - 37:25 28:5 recently [6] - 33:24, 194:14, 195:8, 196:8, 12:10, 22:10, 23:13, Ranch [22] - 90:10, reaching [1] - 125:7 40:14, 63:7, 68:12, 197:12, 198:4, 49:22, 59:18, 78:25, 90:12, 90:20, 91:2, reaction [1] - 86:22 158:15, 227:12 198:25, 199:4, 108:19, 115:24, 91:8, 93:5, 93:6, read [4] - 187:7, recess [1] - 76:11 199:11, 201:12, 122:21, 123:9, 93:18, 95:19, 95:22, 188:11, 199:25, RECESS) [2] - 76:12, 201:18, 203:1, 203:3, 143:11, 147:6, 96:3, 96:9, 96:19, 217:15 150:13 213:12, 229:24, 172:12, 173:5, 230:9, 230:10, 98:25, 100:17, 103:7, readily [1] - 206:4 recipient [1] - 29:12 175:23, 181:14, 103:16, 104:11, 230:14, 230:15, reading [2] - 186:1, reclaim [1] - 232:12 187:25, 195:1, 104:23, 105:6, 105:12 231:4, 235:6 209:4 reclaimed [8] - 196:19, 199:9, ranch [15] - 90:12, RECORD) [1] - readings [1] - 202:7 88:13, 185:18, 199:18, 199:19 90:14, 91:13, 91:14, 159:20 ready [2] - 116:13, 185:21, 187:13, regardless [1] - 91:25, 93:7, 93:19, 128:13 187:16, 191:5, 192:8, records [3] - 58:10, 182:21 94:1, 94:5, 95:20, 58:18, 63:8 reaffirmation [1] - 213:11 regards [2] - 125:14, 96:20, 97:1, 98:1, recreation [2] - 87:17 reclaiming [1] - 213:16 105:19 75:25, 77:14 real [9] - 49:15, 64:4, 71:10 regime [2] - 138:14, ranches [1] - 91:9 Recreation [1] - 69:15, 123:17, recognition [1] - 138:15 ranching [1] - 94:3 135:15, 137:15, 211:5 78:15 region [19] - 163:21, range [5] - 29:1, 140:8, 218:25, 220:10 recognize [10] - 4:3, recreational [1] - 164:16, 169:5, 29:4, 35:5, 92:2, 53:24 reality [1] - 140:9 9:3, 19:4, 25:3, 49:4, 185:24, 186:6, 97:12 red [1] - 47:2 really [25] - 34:1, 108:4, 111:3, 188:8, 186:11, 186:24, Rangers [1] - 5:3 39:15, 47:13, 51:3, 188:23, 215:11 redefining [1] - 187:19, 191:15, ranging [2] - 31:21, 51:10, 54:23, 64:5, recognized [2] - 14:10 191:23, 197:9, 41:12 72:1, 72:22, 74:20, 188:7, 188:22 redevelopment [2] - 205:17, 207:7, rank [1] - 28:6 82:12, 83:15, 94:1, recognizes [3] - 134:16, 140:15 212:16, 212:19, ranked [2] - 90:15, 94:9, 102:24, 122:24, 26:1, 118:12, 121:4 redo [2] - 159:23 212:20, 213:15, 95:23 131:1, 132:19, 134:2, recognizing [1] - reduce [3] - 114:23, 214:9, 229:12 rapidly [1] - 212:16 140:21, 145:12, 117:5 121:25, 141:5 Regional [8] - 185:3, rare [1] - 97:7 145:16, 173:20, recollecting [1] - reduced [1] - 220:17 185:24, 187:19, Raschein [2] - 176:21, 219:7 65:18 reduces [2] - 91:4, 191:24, 193:7, 193:9,

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193:24, 194:2 114:23, 175:19, 194:22, 195:4, 196:1, 174:15, 219:21, 205:1 regional [13] - 187:4, 211:13 197:13, 197:15, 219:25, 230:5, 233:4 Resource [3] - 91:3, 163:11, 163:25, remains [15] - 30:1, 199:11, 210:15, requested [3] - 67:7, 96:5, 96:10 168:1, 168:3, 168:18, 46:4, 52:2, 52:19, 230:24, 235:5 165:12, 222:22 resource [7] - 47:15, 169:8, 193:11, 54:6, 54:16, 56:19, REPORTED [1] - requesting [6] - 122:20, 164:3, 169:4, 194:25, 197:4, 66:16, 68:19, 71:13, 1:17 49:21, 87:25, 88:5, 207:13, 208:4, 214:10 202:11, 202:14, 73:18, 73:20, 75:13, reported [2] - 17:1, 90:17, 95:25, 121:23 resources [26] - 207:7, 208:16 120:10 206:2 requests [4] - 6:2, 13:16, 30:9, 38:9, registered [1] - remand [2] - 181:21, Reporter [1] - 235:11 6:20, 6:21, 9:14 40:9, 40:12, 41:16, 11:21 182:2 REPORTER [1] - require [2] - 109:6, 53:13, 58:9, 58:18, registry [1] - 34:23 remanded [2] - 1:17 166:18 74:11, 130:21, regular [2] - 117:6, 165:24, 188:16 REPORTERS [1] - required [14] - 5:1, 130:24, 132:8, 147:16 remember [2] - 1:22 11:6, 12:20, 17:1, 163:24, 167:25, regulate [3] - 138:10 67:14, 70:8 reporting [6] - 16:12, 22:22, 23:22, 154:23, 213:15, 217:3, regulated [1] - 216:7 remembers [1] - 76:19, 78:7, 79:13, 159:15, 163:19, 217:10, 217:20, Regulation [4] - 2:5, 66:12 79:21, 147:19 184:23, 197:21, 217:23, 218:24, 2:7, 9:5, 19:5 reminded [2] - 70:19, reports [3] - 45:6, 207:8, 210:19, 220:20 219:14, 219:19, REGULATION [2] - 120:2 156:1, 158:4 requirement [5] - 228:10, 232:3 9:1, 19:1 remove [1] - 85:25 represent [10] - 20:21, 37:3, 38:11, respect [4] - 19:23, regulation [1] - 9:15 render [3] - 145:3, 67:19, 98:22, 112:22, 77:6, 215:13 86:8, 120:21, 199:24 Regulation's [1] - 202:8, 202:9 122:18, 135:20, requirements [20] - respected [1] - 7:20 22:18 renders [1] - 207:3 140:4, 171:18, 23:13, 36:23, 38:10, respectfully [4] - Regulatory [1] - renovating [1] - 171:20, 214:17, 223:5 39:4, 122:7, 125:8, 9:13, 25:12, 32:13, 212:7 140:1 representative [6] - 125:9, 126:1, 127:21, 123:2 regulatory [3] - rent [4] - 131:10, 27:10, 97:14, 116:15, 128:18, 159:8, respective [1] - 138:14, 139:21, 131:11, 131:12 116:20, 120:2, 122:11 181:16, 183:4, 183:5, 78:21 215:15 rental [1] - 132:6 Representative [3] - 196:10, 199:9, respond [2] - 15:5, rehabbed [2] - 53:25, rentals [3] - 131:13, 92:11, 118:24, 122:6 199:17, 199:19, 80:10 74:20 131:25, 132:1 REPRESENTATIVE 214:25, 231:5 responded [2] - reinvigoration [1] - repeal [4] - 22:12, [2] - 116:21, 118:25 requires [6] - 5:14, 21:3, 184:11 123:20 109:17, 111:20, representatives [1] - 20:2, 20:15, 199:7, Respondent [13] - reject [2] - 222:21, 111:23 178:19 199:22, 209:10 165:3, 168:24, 171:7, 225:18 repealed [1] - 22:14 represented [1] - requiring [2] - 175:12, 177:10, related [3] - 113:12, repeat [1] - 183:18 195:12 199:20, 220:4 177:13, 177:20, 163:24, 194:7 report [74] - 9:25, representing [9] - research [3] - 42:13, 177:24, 191:11, relates [8] - 6:4, 10:2, 10:5, 14:7, 17:7, 27:6, 92:14, 97:15, 51:17, 75:11 193:4, 196:9, 196:16, 52:16, 121:6, 164:5, 17:17, 20:16, 40:14, 129:18, 133:10, resell [1] - 70:24 198:8 185:7, 192:11, 47:1, 51:4, 59:17, 171:6, 171:7, 221:11, reservoir [4] - respondent [4] - 196:23, 197:6 71:25, 72:3, 72:19, 223:7 200:25, 201:6, 214:3, 166:4, 176:8, 177:2, relating [3] - 9:15, 76:8, 78:9, 78:11, represents [2] - 218:19 191:13 78:14, 105:11 78:19, 79:1, 79:3, 53:10, 91:8 Reservoir [1] - 215:5 respondent's [1] - relationship [1] - 79:7, 80:25, 108:17, repurpose [2] - reside [1] - 136:7 195:21 124:17 112:11, 112:14, 70:24 resident [4] - 127:10, Respondent's [6] - relatively [2] - 12:11, 112:25, 113:14, request [44] - 4:10, 131:4, 135:11, 141:21 164:6, 168:20, 192:1, 206:6 115:11, 116:25, 6:3, 6:18, 19:24, residential [4] - 195:24, 198:2 relevant [1] - 210:18 117:10, 118:9, 20:20, 21:3, 21:15, 23:14, 114:4, 130:20, respondents [1] - reliable [1] - 211:11 118:12, 121:3, 121:9, 22:11, 23:9, 25:13, 132:4 21:3 reliance [1] - 209:25 122:5, 122:13, 32:13, 88:10, 89:16, residents [11] - 39:8, Respondents's [1] - relief [7] - 165:12, 124:14, 125:10, 111:7, 111:18, 39:12, 40:20, 121:22, 163:18 181:6, 183:1, 183:8, 125:13, 125:25, 111:21, 111:22, 125:4, 127:14, response [5] - 115:1, 222:5, 222:21, 230:5 126:4, 126:11, 112:8, 123:2, 140:10, 127:18, 130:6, 132:3, 115:20, 147:2, relocated [1] - 73:20 133:15, 134:4, 140:12, 151:19, 136:15, 232:17 195:21, 199:15 relook [1] - 70:5 141:20, 143:22, 154:9, 154:22, resides [1] - 28:5 RESPONSE) [42] - rely [4] - 30:18, 145:21, 146:2, 146:3, 155:22, 157:7, 162:8, resolution [4] - 35:3, 4:18, 5:19, 6:14, 7:6, 139:20, 210:10, 230:9 146:4, 146:14, 147:7, 162:19, 162:20, 35:14, 54:5, 55:7 17:15, 19:20, 21:11, 148:13, 154:23, 164:18, 166:3, 22:7, 23:5, 24:5, remain [3] - 3:8, resolutions [3] - 114:7, 213:23 158:10, 159:6, 166:12, 166:16, 35:6, 35:16, 227:17 25:20, 32:22, 76:5, 181:18, 184:8, 185:6, 167:18, 167:21, 89:1, 89:8, 94:19, remainder [3] - resolve [2] - 75:15, 46:18, 125:23, 126:22 188:3, 188:6, 188:13, 169:12, 169:20, 232:2 106:5, 106:12, 188:20, 194:20, 170:2, 173:22, 108:14, 110:2, remaining [4] - resolved [2] - 34:10,

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111:15, 112:5, 51:13, 52:5, 52:8, 64:16 222:19, 223:18, 71:12 118:23, 143:4, 52:10, 52:18 richly [1] - 42:21 231:17 sad [1] - 69:9 148:19, 154:18, reunified [1] - 54:6 RICK [1] - 1:9 roles [1] - 52:1 Sadowski [1] - 155:11, 156:11, reuse [3] - 193:15, ridden [1] - 55:19 roll [2] - 36:12, 45:8 123:21 157:3, 157:25, 215:25, 216:2 right-hand [1] - 66:1 roll-ups [1] - 45:8 safe [2] - 113:7, 162:16, 175:3, revenue [7] - 38:24, rights [7] - 32:7, room [3] - 78:3, 113:12 178:16, 181:3, 127:16, 127:17, 63:24, 92:5, 94:6, 114:19, 139:2 Safety [2] - 2:3, 4:4 196:14, 198:16, 130:13, 130:14, 114:13, 136:13, 137:4 ROOM [1] - 1:14 safety [1] - 7:21 204:6, 211:22, 130:19, 154:12 Rinaman [3] - rotations [1] - 41:13 SAFETY [1] - 4:1 216:17, 221:4, Revenue's [1] - 179:14, 226:3, 226:8 roughly [2] - 12:24, SAID) [1] - 3:13 225:24, 233:15 126:24 RINAMAN [2] - 132:5 sale [3] - 88:12, responses [4] - reversal [1] - 166:1 179:16, 226:5 round [1] - 132:3 104:4, 127:4 13:11, 13:18, 79:17, reversed [1] - 165:23 riparian [1] - 88:14 rounding [1] - sales [1] - 127:16 195:25 review [38] - 5:15, rises [1] - 172:7 118:15 salt [3] - 74:22, responsibilities [6] - 20:1, 20:2, 21:1, 33:4, rising [1] - 124:8 row [1] - 97:4 185:14, 187:9 75:7, 75:8, 77:1, 78:1, 87:22, 109:2, risk [2] - 153:18, RPR [3] - 1:17, salvaged [1] - 54:24 79:16, 105:21, 163:2 109:19, 145:19, 153:24 235:5, 235:11 sand [2] - 91:23, responsibility [2] - 145:25, 162:20, Risk [3] - 157:14, rug [2] - 58:22, 66:23 97:10 72:25, 74:15 163:14, 164:18, 158:10, 158:13 Ruiz [1] - 3:6 Sandra [1] - 92:8 responsible [3] - 165:7, 165:8, 166:3, risks [1] - 124:7 Rule [6] - 6:1, 6:19, satisfaction [1] - 20:11, 63:18, 77:15 166:10, 166:12, River [30] - 93:13, 21:16, 22:12, 23:10, 14:3 responsive [1] - 166:16, 167:5, 162:21, 163:10, 122:23 Saudi [1] - 63:21 22:19 167:12, 167:19, 164:10, 171:21, rule [27] - 6:3, 6:4, save [1] - 29:22 rest [1] - 15:2 167:21, 169:12, 175:18, 175:21, 6:22, 21:22, 22:22, saw [5] - 11:24, resting [1] - 54:5 169:19, 169:21, 177:20, 179:15, 23:12, 23:18, 23:20, 40:14, 51:8, 62:19, restoration [4] - 170:3, 170:7, 170:9, 201:3, 204:12, 109:18, 111:19, 68:12 171:13, 174:15, 118:16, 128:9, 135:2, 206:18, 208:1, 210:5, 125:8, 134:10, SBA [2] - 154:22, 217:3 176:1, 181:9, 181:24, 216:10, 216:12, 145:13, 159:16, 155:24 194:13, 222:7, 231:4 restoring [2] - 217:12, 217:13, 168:2, 168:17, schedule [2] - 219:19, 226:10 reviewable [1] - 217:14, 218:15, 176:17, 176:25, 145:22, 167:1 165:9 restrictions [3] - 219:3, 220:1, 220:14, 182:7, 183:5, 200:10, SCHMITT [1] - 135:8 reviewed [8] - 142:2, 197:22, 225:12 224:4, 226:3, 226:8, 200:11, 200:15, Schmitt [3] - 129:19, result [6] - 6:3, 6:22, 155:24, 157:12, 226:11, 226:19, 203:11, 221:21, 129:20, 135:10 157:14, 160:23, 35:7, 111:22, 148:8, 227:23 221:23 Scholar [1] - 31:6 201:24 160:24, 161:1, 165:2, river [2] - 218:19, rulemaking [16] - School [6] - 3:11, 208:11 resulted [1] - 131:4 226:24 5:25, 6:19, 12:15, 49:14, 62:3, 62:6, reviewing [1] - resulting [1] - 121:7 river's [1] - 227:10 115:25, 116:6, 64:24, 64:25 223:19 results [4] - 33:20, Rivers [5] - 91:21, 143:12, 145:13, school [5] - 30:11, 56:19, 56:23, 109:12 reviews [2] - 77:4, 169:3, 195:3, 207:17, 166:2, 166:5, 166:9, 53:22, 62:6, 65:5, resume [1] - 199:17 77:7 208:16 183:13, 183:22, 73:21 revise [1] - 44:9 retain [1] - 13:14 rivers [2] - 228:3, 199:17, 220:24, science [1] - 220:10 revised [2] - 23:18, retired [3] - 28:9, 231:21 222:6, 229:14 scientist [3] - 218:5, 29:8, 158:12 79:17 Road [1] - 5:3 rules [13] - 9:14, 220:11, 220:12 revising [1] - 44:5 Retired [1] - 31:15 road [5] - 51:23, 9:21, 22:13, 88:15, scope [2] - 50:13, retirees [1] - 29:21 revisions [1] - 79:14 65:25, 66:2, 67:15, 111:20, 156:15, 176:18 revolve [1] - 217:19 retirement [7] - 134:6 163:14, 175:25, score [2] - 14:18, 28:19, 29:15, 30:13, Revolving [1] - robin [1] - 179:19 176:6, 176:23, 21:2 126:24 199:20, 200:9, 220:2 31:19, 31:24, 32:9, Robin [2] - 216:19, scores [1] - 43:25 RFP [1] - 109:10 run [2] - 38:22, 122:25 216:21 Scott [11] - 9:7, 25:7, Retirement [2] - rhetorical [1] - robust [2] - 22:18, 218:19 49:9, 61:13, 64:20, 122:22, 151:14 202:24 124:17 rundown [1] - 158:5 66:25, 93:22, 112:20, retrain [1] - 13:14 RHODES [7] - 4:7, Rocky [2] - 26:25, Rural [6] - 90:15, 124:24, 204:8, 212:2 retroactive [2] - 4:21, 5:22, 6:17, 7:9, 29:25 94:6, 94:9, 94:21, SCOTT [327] - 1:9, 33:11, 45:11 7:11, 7:16 ROGO [8] - 117:20, 95:23, 96:23 3:3, 4:3, 4:12, 4:15, return [5] - 41:25, Rhodes [3] - 2:3, 4:4, 121:13, 132:11, rural [1] - 90:9 4:17, 4:19, 5:9, 5:12, 43:11, 46:3, 94:15, 8:6 132:14, 136:5, Russell [1] - 69:7 5:14, 5:20, 6:8, 6:11, 152:2 ribbon [1] - 44:19 136:12, 138:14, 6:13, 6:15, 6:25, 7:3, returned [2] - 28:9, Rice [2] - 61:12, 145:10 S 7:5, 7:7, 7:10, 7:24, 73:24 61:16 role [7] - 50:6, 74:11, 8:20, 9:3, 9:8, 15:8, reunification [5] - RICE [2] - 61:13, 158:14, 158:25, sacred [3] - 71:11, 15:18, 15:24, 17:13,

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17:16, 17:19, 17:21, 145:24, 146:8, scrutinized [2] - 57:17, 59:11, 59:22, 90:13, 91:9, 93:8, 17:24, 19:3, 19:14, 146:13, 146:18, 155:1, 155:4 60:2, 61:16, 72:12, 93:10, 93:15, 175:13, 19:17, 19:19, 19:21, 146:23, 147:4, search [3] - 73:15, 74:14, 82:8, 85:9, 176:9, 178:24, 21:5, 21:8, 21:10, 147:12, 147:20, 158:15, 159:3 86:4, 89:15, 165:12 211:24, 212:5, 212:9, 21:12, 22:1, 22:4, 147:22, 148:1, 148:4, season [2] - 130:9, Secretary's [1] - 213:17 22:6, 22:8, 22:23, 148:8, 148:11, 149:2 165:17 Senate [2] - 20:18, 23:1, 23:3, 23:6, 148:15, 148:17, seat [2] - 141:11, section [9] - 76:23, 29:3 23:23, 24:1, 24:3, 148:20, 148:24, 141:15 78:7, 79:5, 79:11, Senator [1] - 210:1 24:6, 24:10, 25:3, 149:3, 150:3, 150:8, second [94] - 4:15, 105:13, 178:18, Senator's [1] - 25:14, 25:17, 25:19, 150:11, 151:3, 4:16, 4:22, 5:3, 5:12, 196:18, 196:23, 197:3 210:11 25:21, 32:16, 32:19, 151:20, 151:22, 5:13, 6:11, 6:12, 7:3, Section [19] - send [2] - 37:4, 32:21, 32:23, 43:15, 151:25, 152:5, 152:8, 7:4, 9:19, 9:20, 9:24, 105:10, 105:22, 228:18 48:12, 48:16, 48:19, 152:12, 152:16, 12:17, 17:19, 17:20, 115:9, 164:19, sending [1] - 55:14 49:4, 53:3, 55:11, 152:21, 153:2, 153:5, 19:17, 19:18, 21:8, 170:11, 175:24, Senior [1] - 29:9 57:13, 57:19, 57:21, 153:8, 153:11, 21:9, 22:4, 22:5, 23:1, 184:20, 184:23, sense [2] - 75:2, 60:25, 61:9, 64:7, 153:15, 153:21, 23:2, 24:1, 24:2, 185:13, 187:3, 176:23 64:11, 64:19, 67:2, 154:1, 154:5, 154:13, 25:17, 25:18, 32:19, 187:22, 189:7, sensitive [3] - 67:4, 67:8, 71:19, 154:15, 154:17, 32:20, 87:9, 89:5, 189:15, 191:21, 114:22, 120:15, 221:1 71:22, 76:4, 76:6, 154:19, 155:5, 155:8, 89:6, 93:17, 93:18, 192:11, 193:8, sent [6] - 41:10, 76:13, 79:22, 79:25, 155:10, 155:12, 95:3, 95:4, 95:12, 196:22, 197:6, 208:21 62:8, 64:23, 65:2, 80:11, 83:1, 84:2, 155:16, 156:5, 156:8, 99:21, 100:16, sector [2] - 30:20, 195:22, 229:14 85:13, 86:2, 86:10, 156:10, 156:12, 100:17, 100:22, 80:7 sentence [1] - 202:4 87:3, 87:6, 87:10, 156:20, 156:25, 103:24, 104:12, secure [3] - 32:3, separate [9] - 92:23, 87:13, 88:24, 89:2, 157:2, 157:4, 157:19, 104:13, 104:19, 127:8, 127:23 142:17, 159:25, 89:5, 89:7, 89:21, 157:22, 157:24, 104:20, 104:25, secured [1] - 113:24 164:21, 166:18, 89:24, 90:4, 90:7, 158:1, 159:10, 105:1, 106:9, 106:10, Securities [1] - 11:19 186:3, 187:5, 205:4, 92:17, 94:18, 94:20, 159:15, 159:18, 108:11, 108:12, Securities' [1] - 206:23 95:5, 95:8, 95:13, 159:21, 160:3, 160:8, 109:24, 109:25, 13:23 separation [1] - 95:15, 97:18, 98:6, 160:13, 160:16, 111:12, 111:13, security [1] - 75:7 45:19 99:9, 99:13, 99:15, 160:18, 160:23, 112:2, 112:3, 124:13, see [28] - 7:10, 16:9, SEPTEMBER [1] - 99:19, 99:24, 100:2, 161:1, 161:5, 162:4, 143:1, 143:2, 148:15, 40:18, 40:22, 41:1, 1:13 100:4, 100:7, 100:11, 162:10, 162:13, 148:16, 151:23, 42:4, 44:25, 45:21, September [4] - 3:4, 100:16, 100:19, 162:15, 162:17, 154:15, 154:16, 46:4, 47:20, 47:22, 4:11, 12:19, 49:19 100:24, 101:3, 163:5, 163:7, 167:15, 155:8, 155:9, 156:8, 50:21, 52:22, 53:16, Sergeant [11] - 102:14, 103:8, 169:17, 169:22, 156:9, 156:25, 157:1, 56:2, 66:22, 71:4, 26:22, 26:23, 27:1, 103:13, 103:17, 170:4, 170:15, 157:22, 157:23, 93:8, 93:10, 116:25, 27:15, 28:3, 28:6, 103:21, 104:7, 170:20, 170:23, 160:17, 162:13, 117:10, 117:16, 28:9, 30:22, 31:2, 104:12, 104:14, 171:2, 171:5, 171:9, 162:14, 167:4, 119:5, 132:4, 152:23, 31:7, 31:11 104:18, 104:24, 171:14, 173:24, 168:14, 174:16, 154:1, 232:18, 234:1 sergeant [2] - 27:12, 105:2, 105:4, 106:3, 174:10, 174:17, 174:24, 174:25, seeing [5] - 13:3, 30:22 106:6, 106:9, 106:11, 174:20, 174:24, 180:14, 180:22, 45:4, 133:2, 133:3, series [2] - 48:5, 106:13, 106:16, 175:1, 175:4, 178:13, 180:23, 180:25, 140:25 152:24 106:18, 106:22, 178:17, 178:22, 184:21, 186:21, seek [4] - 5:24, serious [1] - 220:23 107:4, 108:3, 108:13, 180:2, 180:9, 180:13, 187:25, 193:3, 43:12, 171:21, 177:9 servant [1] - 135:13 108:15, 109:16, 180:16, 180:19, 195:18, 233:12, seeking [4] - 51:12, serve [1] - 8:8 109:21, 109:24, 180:22, 181:1, 181:4, 233:13 55:6, 193:22 served [13] - 27:4, 110:1, 110:3, 110:6, 192:24, 193:2, Second [2] - 31:1, seem [2] - 16:16, 27:6, 27:18, 27:21, 111:3, 111:9, 111:12, 196:12, 198:15, 160:16 146:20 27:23, 28:22, 30:2, 111:14, 111:16, 198:17, 199:5, secondary [1] - 92:1 sees [1] - 15:3 31:4, 31:25, 35:15, 111:24, 112:2, 112:4, 202:20, 202:23, secondly [1] - 14:13 segue [1] - 118:5 35:21, 43:1, 158:25 112:6, 112:18, 204:5, 204:7, 211:21, SECRETARY [17] - segueing [1] - 118:8 serves [2] - 30:16, 116:10, 118:22, 211:23, 216:15, 49:8, 61:2, 61:11, Segundo [2] - 179:6, 221:12 118:24, 119:4, 216:18, 221:3, 221:5, 64:17, 67:6, 71:20, 221:6 Service [6] - 78:17, 124:21, 129:15, 221:8, 225:23, 76:16, 80:9, 80:12, select [1] - 26:11 89:13, 90:23, 91:3, 129:22, 133:3, 133:7, 225:25, 229:16, 80:17, 81:1, 87:15, selected [1] - 26:14 96:5, 96:11 133:18, 135:7, 137:7, 229:20, 230:4, 231:7, 89:11, 89:23, 90:1, selective [1] - 12:5 service [23] - 8:12, 137:13, 141:3, 141:9, 232:25, 233:11, 106:15, 106:17 self [1] - 193:14 26:4, 26:6, 27:6, 141:14, 142:10, 233:14, 233:16 secretary [1] - 53:1 sell [1] - 135:17 27:15, 27:17, 28:8, 142:20, 143:1, 143:3, screening [1] - Secretary [17] - 2:12, seller [1] - 82:18 28:11, 30:15, 31:20, 143:5, 143:16, 144:6, 158:21 55:20, 56:25, 57:5, Seminole [12] - 41:2, 45:19, 46:21, 144:10, 145:17, scripted [1] - 228:5

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46:23, 53:23, 53:25, short [4] - 12:7, 38:8, 73:6, 73:9, 73:10, sounds [2] - 146:10, 166:22, 170:7, 178:17 61:20, 69:2, 77:24, 158:18, 228:20 73:19, 73:21, 74:17 171:24 speaking [2] - 14:20, 127:6, 127:20, 223:10 short-term [1] - sites [3] - 50:9, 50:11 source [39] - 136:21, 123:14 Services [11] - 10:8, 228:20 Siting [3] - 79:6, 185:22, 186:5, species [2] - 91:22, 14:6, 19:9, 19:13, shorter [1] - 14:3 79:8, 79:9 186:10, 187:17, 97:7 20:4, 20:23, 23:16, shortfall [2] - 38:9, sitting [4] - 75:9, 187:21, 188:10, specific [16] - 58:5, 105:8, 193:17, 231:24 81:2, 174:2, 183:17 188:24, 189:13, 74:10, 75:20, 78:19, 204:23, 212:10 shoulders [1] - 57:4 situation [1] - 62:1 189:17, 189:19, 168:9, 191:14, services [10] - 28:13, show [3] - 45:5, six [7] - 10:14, 39:12, 189:21, 189:23, 195:25, 197:21, 35:6, 36:13, 40:4, 77:25, 213:12 49:10, 73:25, 146:5, 189:25, 190:2, 190:4, 200:3, 200:12, 41:3, 42:16, 44:15, showcases [1] - 43:9 146:8, 167:6 190:6, 190:11, 200:14, 200:17, 44:18, 44:23, 127:12 showing [1] - 58:17 six-month [2] - 190:13, 190:15, 201:19, 202:9, Services' [2] - 23:20, shown [2] - 77:13, 146:5, 146:8 190:17, 190:19, 229:23, 231:17 39:24 77:17 size [3] - 75:3, 91:9, 190:21, 190:23, specifically [16] - serving [3] - 29:3, shows [4] - 77:18, 101:10 190:24, 191:1, 191:3, 41:21, 52:16, 52:25, 32:7, 218:3 77:22, 195:8, 209:5 skill [3] - 51:22, 191:5, 191:8, 191:10, 67:6, 75:6, 168:15, session [1] - 4:24 siblings [1] - 74:2 58:12, 60:20 191:15, 191:22, 182:20, 184:10, set [14] - 39:23, sic [4] - 105:10, skills [1] - 6:5 205:16, 205:20, 185:6, 185:10, 188:1, 42:17, 43:19, 54:10, 135:25, 136:3, 147:9 skip [1] - 201:25 206:3, 206:20, 210:22, 213:9, 69:5, 80:4, 81:23, sic) [3] - 10:1, 12:3, sleep [1] - 35:11 206:22, 207:5 218:15, 220:24, 84:5, 84:7, 98:21, 130:22 slight [1] - 10:15 Sources [3] - 208:20, 230:21 102:15, 143:23, side [4] - 65:7, 65:19, slowing [1] - 68:3 209:11, 209:15 specificity [1] - 47:5 158:20, 231:12 66:1, 66:7 slush [1] - 68:8 sources [28] - spectrum [1] - 42:16 163:21, 176:2, sets [3] - 51:22, sides [5] - 198:23, small [5] - 12:12, spend [2] - 83:25, 58:12, 60:20 199:2, 199:4, 230:11, 46:11, 127:18, 130:5, 185:16, 186:3, 232:22 setting [1] - 195:19 233:23 201:4 186:24, 187:6, spending [1] - 131:8 187:11, 188:3, settled [1] - 33:23 significance [5] - smart [2] - 94:14, spent [8] - 31:7, seven [5] - 42:22, 168:1, 168:4, 168:18, 154:4 189:10, 191:16, 93:19, 113:16, 117:1, 205:5, 205:6, 205:10, 186:2, 205:7, 205:11, 169:8, 222:13 smile [2] - 141:11, 139:17, 140:1, 205:12, 205:21, 209:10 significant [14] - 141:14 141:22, 231:10 205:23, 206:7, seventh [1] - 39:14 26:4, 34:1, 40:17, snapshot [1] - 12:1 spike [1] - 34:2 213:24, 223:11, several [12] - 30:12, 121:14, 121:21, Society [1] - 92:14 spirits [2] - 70:6, 223:23, 224:2, 224:3, 33:24, 33:25, 38:25, 122:19, 160:6, 169:4, soft [1] - 12:18 70:7 224:8, 224:10, 41:19, 65:15, 67:24, 212:21, 217:18, soils [1] - 220:15 spiritual [1] - 69:19 224:12, 224:14, 121:25, 164:2, 226:20, 227:4, 227:8, soldiers [1] - 30:24 spite [2] - 130:16, 164:13, 194:4, 206:18 224:19, 224:23 227:11 solely [3] - 175:16, 218:25 south [1] - 90:13 severe [1] - 38:9 significantly [2] - 177:17, 181:10 split [2] - 17:7, 216:9 South [4] - 56:10, severely [1] - 123:24 33:20, 74:17 solicitation [2] - spoken [1] - 56:24 175:21, 216:9, 218:7 severity [2] - 35:18, Silver [3] - 217:15, 109:11, 109:12 sponsor [2] - 213:17, southern [2] - 95:21, 36:15 217:17, 219:2 solution [3] - 33:10, 214:3 119:9 shall [3] - 193:19, silviculture [1] - 228:20, 228:21 sponsored [1] - 29:4 southwest [1] - 193:25, 194:3 91:16 solve [1] - 122:15 sponsoring [1] - 96:24 share [7] - 13:7, similar [1] - 184:3 solved [1] - 124:11 118:19 63:12, 67:25, 70:21, Southwest [2] - similarly [1] - 214:4 someone [7] - 16:6, sponsorship [1] - 175:21, 218:8 80:8, 129:11, 130:23 simple [2] - 97:25, 16:11, 31:13, 60:4, 27:9 sovereignty [1] - shared [1] - 109:1 221:16 85:5, 101:19, 133:12 spread [2] - 36:1, 88:13 sharing [3] - 95:21, simply [3] - 23:19, sometime [1] - 63:12 42:23 130:13, 130:14 Spalding [1] - 7:14 86:1, 225:13 somewhere [2] - Springs [4] - 217:15, SPALDING [1] - 7:25 shed [1] - 81:4 sincerely [1] - 68:10, 101:13 217:17, 219:2, 220:18 spare [1] - 132:11 shell [1] - 66:17 220:21 son [2] - 70:13, springs [1] - 231:22 speaker [7] - 61:12, sheriff [3] - 27:13, Singh [3] - 137:9, 138:4 St [39] - 91:20, 93:12, 67:7, 137:11, 212:1, 27:20 137:10, 137:17 soon [2] - 72:22, 108:18, 162:21, 221:6, 222:11, 226:2 Sheriff [2] - 27:21, SINGH [2] - 137:14, 133:1 163:10, 164:10, Speaker [1] - 20:18 27:22 141:8 sorry [7] - 11:18, 169:3, 171:20, speakers [18] - 53:7, Sheriff's [1] - 56:11 single [2] - 82:10, 64:13, 67:4, 128:9, 175:18, 177:20, 55:2, 61:1, 61:3, 61:8, Shield [1] - 48:8 187:1 141:8, 151:24, 200:11 179:14, 195:3, 61:10, 71:21, 112:14, 204:12, 204:14, shift [1] - 228:17 Single [1] - 171:16 sought [4] - 166:12, 116:12, 116:13, ship [1] - 61:24 sisters [1] - 74:3 172:4, 177:4, 222:5 204:15, 204:18, 129:17, 135:12, 205:15, 205:20, shipped [1] - 66:19 site [11] - 50:22, sound [2] - 146:24, 137:9, 142:12, 163:3, shore [1] - 120:24 59:4, 60:9, 70:19, 152:25 206:18, 207:17,

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208:1, 208:6, 208:15, 30:21, 32:3, 35:25, states [7] - 125:25, 76:16, 80:9, 80:12, stumbling [1] - 210:1, 210:5, 211:17, 36:1, 36:24, 37:5, 188:6, 189:4, 193:9, 80:17, 81:1, 87:15, 132:24 216:9, 216:11, 37:14, 37:18, 38:3, 195:4, 209:7, 210:22 89:11, 89:23, 90:1, sub [2] - 88:20, 217:12, 217:14, 42:19, 46:15, 49:13, statewide [6] - 106:15, 106:17 196:21 220:1, 224:4, 226:3, 50:15, 51:20, 52:20, 44:21, 167:25, 168:3, stewardship [3] - subject [3] - 160:9, 226:8, 226:11, 54:18, 59:6, 60:16, 168:18, 172:7, 231:24 136:4, 136:11, 137:2 212:21, 215:12 226:13, 226:18, 61:25, 66:9, 75:6, stating [1] - 63:23 Stewardship [2] - subjective [7] - 10:6, 227:22, 228:2 84:14, 94:22, 97:10, stationed [1] - 34:25 118:7, 122:12 13:10, 14:17, 14:23, stability [1] - 136:9 98:1, 120:6, 121:2, status [4] - 49:13, stick [3] - 34:11, 15:6, 40:7, 79:11 stadium [1] - 131:19 121:4, 121:12, 78:14, 113:2, 194:4 199:3, 201:18 submerged [2] - staff [39] - 13:9, 121:14, 122:16, Statute [1] - 229:15 sticking [1] - 232:9 78:1, 227:24 13:12, 13:14, 33:8, 122:20, 123:22, statute [35] - 22:21, still [17] - 34:22, submission [3] - 33:18, 44:4, 85:10, 124:16, 125:5, 125:8, 105:13, 105:15, 40:10, 45:4, 46:8, 14:24, 14:25, 20:15 85:16, 89:19, 97:23, 125:9, 128:17, 145:2, 159:17, 56:22, 65:4, 72:3, submit [8] - 8:10, 101:7, 104:3, 108:25, 128:19, 130:2, 163:14, 163:20, 93:8, 94:23, 117:15, 14:14, 14:16, 45:6, 116:24, 128:21, 130:13, 130:20, 168:23, 176:3, 176:6, 118:15, 118:16, 79:14, 108:23, 147:24, 164:20, 133:14, 145:1, 213:9, 176:12, 176:22, 152:9, 152:16, 210:8, 177:17, 222:17 165:1, 165:8, 166:7, 227:5 181:17, 183:7, 183:9, 219:20, 226:24 submits [2] - 207:2, 181:18, 184:8, 185:6, State [50] - 2:20, 183:18, 186:1, 187:1, stimulation [1] - 211:17 188:3, 188:6, 188:13, 8:13, 20:9, 21:25, 187:5, 187:21, 122:25 submittal [1] - 79:4 188:20, 194:20, 26:5, 27:11, 28:1, 200:11, 200:12, stock [1] - 97:9 submitted [13] - 194:22, 195:4, 38:22, 40:19, 40:21, 200:13, 200:17, stop [3] - 48:13, 14:22, 20:16, 26:13, 195:21, 195:24, 40:24, 41:20, 42:24, 201:2, 201:19, 202:5, 63:20, 151:22 33:14, 35:4, 49:21, 196:1, 197:12, 44:20, 49:20, 51:21, 202:8, 206:11, storage [5] - 185:17, 76:20, 79:18, 87:20, 199:11, 210:15, 52:21, 57:5, 59:12, 206:23, 209:22, 187:12, 190:7, 192:6, 176:14, 184:6, 229:21, 229:22, 59:22, 60:2, 67:12, 210:13, 210:19, 201:1 195:15, 219:22 230:24 67:18, 72:12, 74:10, 222:3, 223:21 store [1] - 72:13 submitting [2] - staff's [2] - 104:22, 76:25, 90:14, 91:19, Statute's [1] - 228:24 stored [1] - 218:18 33:3, 81:25 112:11, 115:13, 165:7 statutes [3] - 88:15, Storm [2] - 34:19, subpart [1] - 166:18 119:13, 126:8, staffing [2] - 38:2, 201:23, 223:18 48:9 subparts [1] - 166:18 126:16, 126:24, 41:22 Statutes [7] - 105:11, stormwater [7] - subsection [2] - stages [1] - 136:11 127:15, 128:16, 105:23, 115:10, 118:15, 128:10, 193:8, 209:6 133:25, 135:25, stakeholders [2] - 189:8, 204:18, 132:15, 134:8, Subsection [1] - 136:2, 138:13, 75:17, 82:8 211:16, 221:20 185:22, 187:17, 209:9 143:22, 151:8, 157:8, stand [2] - 63:24, statutorily [2] - 213:11 subsequent [2] - 158:5, 205:9, 217:5, 146:7 11:25, 77:6 story [6] - 58:21, 166:1, 195:13 223:8, 226:19, 228:3, standard [9] - 35:4, statutory [14] - 59:7, 60:13, 65:22, subsequently [2] - 229:5 84:5, 84:6, 86:21, 20:21, 23:17, 105:21, 78:4, 131:12 31:7, 45:22 state's [7] - 32:4, 98:12, 101:10, 168:2, 168:17, 169:6, straight [1] - 139:4 subset [1] - 10:18 53:10, 80:8, 81:17, 102:14, 102:16, 174:23, 183:4, Strategic [1] - 212:7 substantial [4] - 82:14, 134:2, 136:3 158:20 192:10, 200:9, 209:6, strategies [1] - 115:16, 126:6, state-approving [1] - standing [4] - 3:9, 209:21, 210:4, 221:23 115:17 210:24, 223:9 38:3 176:5, 176:21, 177:7 stay [4] - 57:6, straws [1] - 232:9 substantially [6] - state-owned [1] - standpoint [4] - 106:25, 166:4, 198:24 streams [1] - 220:13 98:20, 119:19, 153:7, 49:13 168:4, 168:19, 169:8, steadfastly [1] - 30:7 stretch [1] - 44:1 167:25, 173:11, 184:3 state-registered [1] - 173:7 steam [1] - 216:1 strike [3] - 183:10, substantiate [1] - 11:21 star [1] - 31:23 stenographic [1] - 183:19, 222:8 198:1 state-revenue- start [6] - 53:5, 235:6 striking [1] - 121:5 substantiates [1] - sharing [1] - 130:13 53:12, 62:8, 90:8, stenographically [1] strive [2] - 43:7, 196:22 Statement [1] - 198:20, 227:20 - 235:5 80:19 substantive [3] - 159:9 started [5] - 61:9, step [1] - 134:2 strived [1] - 40:1 176:15, 197:19, 67:15, 125:21, statement [4] - stepped [1] - 158:14 strong [1] - 114:15 230:22 134:12, 227:16 106:21, 178:8, steps [1] - 122:18 strongly [1] - 69:18 success [8] - 43:21, starting [2] - 12:20, 198:23, 218:11 Steve [1] - 160:21 struggling [1] - 43:22, 43:23, 44:2, statements [3] - 44:2 Steverson [7] - 2:12, 203:5 47:7, 119:15 STATE [3] - 1:1, 57:8, 156:16, 156:18 49:5, 55:20, 57:17, students [2] - 3:10, successful [2] - States [10] - 27:5, 151:1, 235:3 74:14, 86:4, 89:15 70:19 13:25, 114:20 state [54] - 11:21, 27:7, 27:16, 29:3, STEVERSON [17] - studies [1] - 31:6 successfully [1] - 20:14, 28:19, 28:23, 30:3, 31:18, 41:9, 49:8, 61:2, 61:11, stuff [2] - 66:20, 77:12 30:1, 30:12, 30:16, 90:21, 96:4, 119:10 64:17, 67:6, 71:20, 118:17 Sudan [1] - 155:3

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sufficient [6] - 187:18, 187:22, 177:21, 177:23 128:23, 132:15, 168:23, 184:19, 169:13, 173:13, 188:2, 188:6, 188:9, supposedly [1] - 132:16, 134:22, 185:12, 200:23, 173:16, 182:5, 188:21, 188:24, 66:18 139:6, 139:20, 204:16, 209:14, 212:22, 225:1 189:2, 189:5, 189:9, surface [48] - 173:9, 139:21, 143:14, 228:11, 228:20 suggest [4] - 16:1, 189:19, 189:23, 184:16, 185:8, 215:1, 215:21, termination [1] - 52:7, 202:15, 204:1 190:2, 190:6, 190:21, 185:14, 185:15, 215:25, 220:18 109:14 suggesting [5] - 190:24, 191:2, 191:6, 185:17, 186:17, systems [6] - 12:15, terms [9] - 10:9, 51:1, 59:20, 59:21, 191:10, 191:13, 186:18, 186:23, 163:24, 194:7, 29:3, 53:17, 138:25, 86:11, 86:13 191:17, 191:22, 187:9, 187:10, 217:11, 225:3, 228:12 144:16, 146:11, suggestion [1] - 191:23, 191:25, 187:12, 188:1, 188:4, 146:21, 199:22, 122:21 192:9, 192:13, 193:9, 189:18, 189:22, T 201:17 suing [1] - 232:24 193:12, 193:14, 190:1, 190:5, 190:7, terrible [1] - 63:15 summarize [1] - 194:25, 195:2, 190:8, 190:12, table [4] - 69:14, Terrific [1] - 167:16 164:8 195:10, 197:2, 197:4, 190:16, 190:20, 148:5, 214:8, 220:8 territory [1] - 93:21 summary [4] - 132:7, 197:8, 198:7, 200:3, 190:23, 191:2, 191:9, tables [4] - 21:17, Terry [3] - 4:4, 4:6, 154:25, 156:1, 159:3 200:21, 202:12, 192:5, 192:7, 200:4, 21:18, 21:21, 21:23 7:10 summer [2] - 26:10, 202:14, 203:2, 200:5, 200:18, tailor [1] - 79:15 test [1] - 6:5 70:12 204:19, 205:5, 205:6, 200:19, 201:13, TAKEN) [1] - 8:21 testament [2] - SUMPTER [2] - 205:10, 205:17, 202:10, 203:18, takings [3] - 121:15, 117:12, 117:13 85:18, 85:20 205:20, 205:21, 203:23, 205:12, 122:15, 136:18 tested [1] - 136:13 Sunshine [5] - 40:19, 205:23, 207:6, 207:8, 206:8, 206:14, 207:4, TALLAHASSEE [2] - testimony [1] - 40:21, 40:24, 41:20, 207:9, 207:18, 207:16, 213:7, 220:4, 1:15, 1:23 176:15 42:24 207:20, 210:16, 223:12, 224:10, Tallahassee [4] - testing [1] - 73:14 211:7, 211:9, 213:1, superseded [1] - 224:12, 224:18, 228:6 27:17, 27:24, 28:5, Texas [1] - 52:3 213:9, 213:21, 201:20 surplus [3] - 54:8, 28:17 text [2] - 187:4, 214:21, 215:4, 215:9, supplemental [1] - 54:13, 88:19 tapped [1] - 218:25 187:20 215:23, 222:8, 45:23 surprise [2] - 138:9 target [4] - 37:10, thankfully [1] - 38:5 223:10, 223:19, suppliers [2] - surprised [1] - 86:18 38:4, 57:23, 151:15 THE [7] - 1:4, 1:15, 223:22, 224:2, 224:6, 193:15, 212:15 surrounding [1] - targeted [1] - 14:1 3:12, 49:1, 159:20, 224:8, 224:11, supplies [40] - 217:4 task [1] - 129:3 234:2 224:13, 224:16, 168:22, 169:7, surtax [1] - 127:5 tasks [7] - 113:4, theirs [1] - 131:16 224:19, 225:8, 184:17, 184:19, survey [1] - 37:7 113:8, 113:10, themselves [5] - 225:10, 225:13, 185:10, 185:13, surveys [6] - 37:5, 113:16, 113:20, 10:9, 39:5, 61:23, 227:9, 228:7, 228:12, 186:4, 186:14, 37:9, 37:10, 38:17, 113:24, 125:13 98:21, 189:11 228:22 186:16, 186:22, 39:16, 39:19 tax [4] - 127:16, therefore [11] - Supply [7] - 185:3, 187:2, 187:6, 187:8, surviving [2] - 56:5 219:12 16:11, 23:18, 115:8, 185:25, 187:20, 189:7, 189:12, survivors [2] - 37:16, taxes [1] - 219:10 135:23, 169:5, 191:24, 193:7, 189:15, 192:3, 75:19 taxpayer [2] - 84:14, 187:20, 191:16, 193:24, 194:3 192:12, 192:14, sustain [2] - 163:23, 84:22 192:9, 198:8, 219:21, support [43] - 8:3, 199:25, 204:17, 232:15 taxpayers [1] - 77:16 230:2 8:16, 41:22, 42:8, 205:3, 205:8, 205:13, sustainability [1] - Taylor [2] - 214:3, they've [8] - 37:2, 42:12, 82:7, 92:15, 206:4, 206:10, 128:7 215:5 70:16, 84:1, 86:25, 93:4, 93:16, 97:16, 206:12, 206:14, sustainable [2] - teach [1] - 50:23 93:24, 131:22, 97:21, 98:3, 99:1, 206:16, 206:22, 211:12, 229:4 team [5] - 13:15, 157:13, 214:21 119:25, 120:1, 120:4, 209:1, 209:14, 210:4, sustainably [1] - 13:20, 50:15, 52:2, Thiebach [4] - 171:8, 122:5, 127:22, 128:4, 211:10, 212:22, 228:6 57:1 174:5, 179:22, 204:11 128:5, 128:11, 213:4, 221:20, Suwannee [1] - technical [3] - 6:23, THIEBACH [3] - 129:10, 132:21, 230:14, 232:12 175:21 194:1, 195:10 174:7, 179:24, 204:8 134:3, 134:17, 135:5, supply [105] - swap [2] - 118:1, technology [1] - thinking [2] - 16:11, 137:3, 139:8, 140:4, 162:23, 163:11, 134:10 56:12 118:6 140:6, 141:19, 142:4, 163:18, 163:20, swept [1] - 58:21 ten [4] - 41:13, thinks [1] - 224:21 175:12, 176:7, 163:25, 164:3, 164:5, SWFWMD [1] - 201:4 114:6, 137:21, 153:4 third [11] - 5:5, 26:8, 176:17, 177:9, 164:12, 164:14, sworn [1] - 176:15 tentatively [1] - 177:19, 179:13, 97:2, 97:5, 141:6, 164:15, 168:8, System [2] - 151:14, 160:7 189:11, 194:2, 160:21, 167:6, 168:11, 168:25, 208:1 term [24] - 12:7, 13:5, 167:11, 185:1, 194:14, 231:19, 172:18, 184:16, system [24] - 37:24, 21:17, 21:22, 22:12, 232:16 196:15, 198:13 185:19, 185:22, 41:7, 114:4, 116:2, 22:14, 36:6, 53:21, Thomas [6] - 171:7, supported [1] - 185:23, 186:10, 117:20, 125:16, 61:18, 132:1, 152:7, 218:17 171:18, 179:21, 186:12, 186:24, 125:23, 126:2, 126:7, 152:20, 152:24, 195:18, 198:20, supports [5] - 30:5, 187:14, 187:17, 126:12, 127:4, 168:21, 168:22, 218:14 91:22, 177:14,

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THOMAS [6] - title [2] - 6:20, 6:24 128:1, 138:18, 140:2 tremendous [1] - 102:13, 115:12, 171:17, 179:25, today [52] - 3:7, 4:9, tourists [1] - 232:16 117:11 115:23, 130:17, 199:6, 203:4, 203:10, 7:22, 9:13, 19:10, tours [3] - 29:13, trend [1] - 144:20 131:20, 137:8, 138:2, 204:4 23:8, 25:10, 30:2, 41:11, 41:13 trends [1] - 47:15 141:7, 142:5, 143:23, thoroughly [3] - 33:4, 43:2, 45:2, toward [3] - 122:18, tribunal [1] - 210:9 150:6, 158:17, 123:12, 212:12 58:25, 62:1, 63:3, 126:6, 126:21 tributaries [1] - 158:19, 162:7, thoroughness [1] - 68:4, 72:2, 84:3, towards [4] - 13:16, 226:13 174:22, 186:14, 160:1 85:24, 90:9, 92:7, 43:8, 115:16, 125:12 tributary [1] - 217:13 195:15, 206:23, thoughts [1] - 71:5 97:14, 112:22, 113:1, towers [1] - 216:2 tried [1] - 59:2 216:8, 217:11, 219:23 Thousand [1] - 125:6, 126:5, 130:1, town [1] - 53:15 Trinity [1] - 3:11 two-fold [2] - 42:5, 137:12 132:25, 133:13, toxic [1] - 226:17 trip [1] - 133:13 186:14 thousand [3] - 40:23, 133:23, 134:3, 134:5, tract [2] - 91:5, 96:13 troops [1] - 7:20 two-story [1] - 65:22 88:18, 127:13 135:9, 135:24, 136:2, trade [1] - 145:10 true [3] - 62:14, type [4] - 10:19, thousands [1] - 136:10, 136:14, traditional [9] - 152:19, 235:6 35:13, 45:12, 94:11 136:21 138:3, 163:3, 181:13, 186:9, 188:9, 188:24, truly [6] - 8:4, 31:11, types [1] - 75:25 threatened [2] - 183:17, 212:5, 191:15, 201:11, 42:17, 46:22, 67:14, 97:8, 97:10 212:13, 213:5, 201:12, 201:15, 70:22 U 214:20, 215:18, three [41] - 4:24, 205:20, 224:3 Truman [1] - 137:19 216:23, 223:13, ultimate [1] - 173:2 25:9, 27:19, 29:3, trailing [2] - 153:1, trumps [1] - 202:15 223:18, 226:2, 226:7, ultimately [8] - 30:24, 40:16, 65:4, 153:3 TRUST [1] - 49:2 226:22, 229:15 27:19, 50:20, 55:22, 70:16, 76:3, 89:12, trailways [1] - 83:19 Trust [3] - 2:11, today's [3] - 41:17, 83:12, 164:23, 90:22, 96:5, 111:6, train [2] - 13:13, 62:9 121:24, 151:14 121:20, 233:18 182:19, 196:6, 211:4 113:1, 114:13, trainers [1] - 13:17 trust [1] - 39:3 together [9] - 42:25, unaccounted [1] - 115:15, 116:15, training [13] - 13:6, TRUSTEES [1] - 49:1 83:7, 97:23, 156:22, 63:1 122:25, 129:17, 13:8, 13:12, 13:16, Trustees [11] - 2:11, 214:22, 227:2, 232:2, unaddressed [1] - 131:22, 144:17, 13:19, 13:20, 13:21, 49:16, 49:18, 97:19, 232:6, 233:25 16:7 144:19, 144:24, 13:22, 13:23, 14:2, 105:9, 105:14, Toho [5] - 175:14, unaffordable [1] - 158:19, 164:21, 37:22, 70:14, 70:15 105:22, 121:24, 176:10, 179:7, 221:7, 124:9 166:17, 167:21, transaction [4] - 151:11, 155:24, 221:11 174:21, 175:10, 99:20, 99:22, 100:8, 156:19 unambiguous [2] - token [1] - 47:25 205:4, 209:23 175:14, 177:14, 100:20 trustees' [1] - 96:14 177:16, 183:25, tomorrow [1] - 68:4 unanimously [1] - transactions [2] - Trustees' [6] - 49:11, 184:1, 192:20, took [5] - 10:25, 12:24, 84:19 90:17, 91:4, 91:6, 227:13 17:6, 65:6, 210:20, unanswered [2] - 192:22, 192:23, transcript [1] - 235:6 95:25, 96:12 192:24, 204:21, 218:18 66:15, 66:21 transient [6] - 113:2, truth [1] - 152:8 212:19, 232:1 tool [4] - 12:12, unaware [1] - 62:5 114:10, 114:20, try [1] - 147:24 three-fold [1] - 13:22, 118:2, 118:3 unbuildable [1] - 118:1, 134:11, 145:9 trying [10] - 16:10, 192:22 tools [3] - 13:20, 136:22 transmission [3] - 47:18, 84:15, 86:10, [1] 14:1, 194:1 [1] three-to-one - 79:9, 125:23, 126:7 106:25, 132:12, unclear - 182:13 122:25 top [2] - 78:14, 82:5 [28] transparency [1] - 147:14, 228:1, under - 49:18, threefold [1] - topic [1] - 13:22 139:13 231:11, 233:2 58:22, 66:23, 79:7, 184:14 topics [1] - 113:1 79:9, 82:2, 88:17, transparent [1] - TUESDAY [1] - 1:13 threes [1] - 116:14 toppling [1] - 220:16 91:5, 92:5, 94:6, 97:2, 50:19 tune [1] - 132:17 threshold [5] - 36:3, tortoise [1] - 91:23 105:22, 121:11, transparently [1] - turkey [1] - 91:24 44:14, 167:2, 169:19, tortured [1] - 63:16 121:12, 130:16, 123:12 turn [4] - 49:24, 54:1, 174:15 138:2, 138:6, 165:22, toss [1] - 220:8 transport [1] - 68:25 163:3, 225:15 Thrive [1] - 3:7 total [15] - 17:8, 168:14, 169:6, 187:8, transported [2] - turned [1] - 103:2 thriving [1] - 56:3 36:12, 79:7, 79:9, 205:7, 205:14, 62:17, 62:25 turning [5] - 36:8, throughout [6] - 206:18, 206:23, 79:10, 81:12, 81:22, treat [3] - 119:21, 36:11, 39:22, 40:7, 206:25, 209:9, 210:8 36:1, 42:24, 44:11, 90:24, 92:18, 96:7, 159:7, 206:6 183:24 201:13, 205:9, 228:3 99:18, 120:18, 132:3, underfunded [1] - treated [5] - 78:23, turnover [1] - 13:9 Tier [2] - 90:15, 197:7, 206:1 152:9 119:21, 200:20, Tuton [1] - 112:24 95:23 totals [1] - 78:20 underlying [1] - 94:5 203:25 tutor [1] - 30:10 timber [1] - 97:4 touch [2] - 44:22, undermine [1] - treatment [6] - twice [1] - 202:18 timeline [4] - 14:3, 83:8 227:10 120:8, 125:16, two [37] - 9:12, 16:18, 16:21, 52:15 tough [4] - 152:13, undermines [1] - 125:19, 125:21, 29:13, 31:4, 36:25, timely [3] - 13:18, 153:18, 153:19, 227:22 126:2, 142:4 38:21, 41:12, 42:5, 40:2, 77:24 153:20 understood [1] - Treatment [1] - 47:3, 64:3, 65:22, 147:1 timing [1] - 144:9 tourism [1] - 122:23 119:18 88:20, 90:9, 90:20, undertake [1] - tirelessly [1] - 30:14 tourist [4] - 127:11, trees [1] - 220:16 97:8, 101:10, 102:6,

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122:17 up [42] - 8:20, 9:3, V 36:16, 37:15, 37:16, walking [2] - 69:23, undertaken [1] - 26:8, 33:10, 36:12, 37:19, 39:21, 40:23, 70:6 213:2 39:2, 39:14, 40:16, VA [9] - 36:19, 36:25, 41:2, 41:4, 42:7, wants [5] - 68:25, underway [1] - 201:7 45:6, 46:19, 48:2, 37:6, 42:22, 42:23, 42:15, 42:20, 46:10, 85:5, 101:19, 170:23, undeveloped [1] - 54:24, 55:8, 65:25, 45:14, 46:9, 46:12, 46:12, 47:18 224:22 121:10 66:3, 66:13, 66:19, 46:13 vetted [1] - 123:3 war [1] - 41:9 undisputed [5] - 69:22, 70:11, 70:18, Vacant [1] - 122:22 viability [1] - 228:11 War [3] - 31:1, 42:6, 181:19, 188:14, 73:9, 73:14, 84:9, vacant [4] - 114:7, viable [2] - 225:5, 42:7 188:19, 191:19, 93:17, 102:15, 106:2, 114:9, 120:18, 131:24 225:12 Warren [1] - 29:25 205:25 114:11, 117:24, valid [3] - 184:22, Vice [1] - 212:6 WAS [3] - 3:12, 3:13, undo [1] - 200:13 122:6, 123:17, 193:4, 230:11 victims [1] - 56:5 234:2 unfortunately [2] - 131:11, 133:13, valorem [1] - 126:25 Vietnam [2] - 29:14, waste [1] - 125:20 226:17, 226:23 134:21, 139:16, valuable [2] - 30:19, 42:4 wastewater [26] - unharvested [1] - 140:18, 142:12, 60:22 view [2] - 102:14, 113:2, 113:9, 113:10, 46:9 167:14, 182:15, value [15] - 80:3, 174:14 113:17, 113:21, Uniform [1] - 78:9 202:11, 207:23, 80:20, 82:16, 88:16, village [3] - 125:17, 113:25, 118:14, uniform [1] - 5:2 216:19 91:5, 91:7, 96:13, 125:24, 126:4 119:24, 120:1, 120:8, unincorporated [1] - upcoming [1] - 4:23 96:15, 96:16, 99:18, Village [5] - 113:15, 125:14, 125:15, 121:10 update [6] - 119:16, 114:18, 121:1, 115:12, 115:19, 125:22, 126:2, 126:7, unique [4] - 36:6, 120:13, 125:6, 146:6, 124:15, 136:7, 169:4 116:18, 125:1 126:12, 126:18, 83:17, 83:18, 186:10 151:12, 156:15 valued [1] - 88:17 Village's [1] - 125:14 127:3, 127:24, 128:3, uniquely [1] - 83:9 updated [2] - 21:21, values [3] - 138:23, violation [2] - 183:9, 132:15, 132:16, uniqueness [1] - 21:23 139:7, 214:10 183:20 134:7, 134:22, 142:4, 117:5 updating [1] - 22:19 various [5] - 74:18, Virgil [1] - 27:1 193:13 Unit [1] - 122:22 upgraded [1] - 91:24, 197:23, vision [1] - 7:21 Wastewater [2] - unit [5] - 114:14, 215:19 223:11, 224:9 visit [6] - 35:24, 36:2, 119:18, 125:19 114:19, 116:8, 118:1, upgrading [2] - vary [1] - 33:20 54:22, 65:16, 131:7, watched [1] - 219:10 141:6 132:16, 140:2 vehicle [1] - 12:12 132:25 watchers [1] - United [10] - 27:5, upland [2] - 77:20, VEHICLES [1] - 4:1 visiting [1] - 117:2 217:21 27:7, 27:16, 29:3, 77:21 Vehicles [2] - 2:3, visitors [6] - 8:13, watching [1] - 174:1 30:3, 31:18, 41:9, ups [1] - 45:8 4:5 78:23, 117:7, 127:13, WATER [2] - 150:1, 90:21, 96:4, 119:10 urges [2] - 204:14, Veronika [2] - 171:8, 127:17, 130:8 162:1 units [11] - 114:5, 211:18 204:11 vitality [1] - 120:22 Water [50] - 2:17, 114:12, 123:9, 132:2, useful [1] - 13:4 versus [2] - 86:20, vitally [1] - 30:20 2:22, 150:7, 162:5, 132:4, 134:11, useless [1] - 202:6 163:9 voice [1] - 178:10 162:21, 163:10, 139:11, 140:11, uses [6] - 163:23, vested [1] - 136:6 volumes [1] - 217:5 163:14, 163:19, 140:17, 145:10, 185:20, 187:15, veteran [10] - 31:12, voluntary [1] - 164:10, 172:24, 145:11 189:13, 194:6, 225:3 33:13, 33:14, 33:18, 164:24 175:14, 175:17, universities [3] - USF [3] - 50:5, 54:4, 39:6, 42:4, 43:4, volunteer [2] - 78:23, 175:22, 176:10, 37:6, 37:24, 108:22 73:23 45:21, 46:15, 46:21 218:3 177:22, 179:7, University [3] - usual [2] - 10:25, veteran's [1] - 35:17 volunteers [1] - 179:10, 181:11, 40:15, 56:10, 60:13 158:5 VETERANS [1] - 30:10 181:21, 183:12, university's [2] - utilities [5] - 193:13, 25:1 vote [12] - 5:17, 185:3, 185:24, 108:19, 109:2 193:15, 194:10, Veterans [16] - 2:9, 43:16, 104:1, 104:5, 187:19, 191:24, unknown [1] - 45:18 197:1, 223:8 25:4, 25:9, 25:25, 142:16, 142:17, 193:7, 193:24, 194:3, unless [4] - 66:3, Utilities [8] - 175:13, 26:1, 26:10, 26:17, 166:19, 166:20, 199:13, 201:9, 152:12, 159:12, 176:9, 178:25, 179:4, 26:21, 30:17, 32:1, 166:25, 182:25, 203:11, 203:14, 181:20 211:25, 212:4, 32:14, 33:15, 36:5, 229:18 204:13, 204:21, 208:6, 210:6, 213:1, unlike [1] - 135:11 214:14, 214:18 38:23, 39:17, 83:23 voted [3] - 100:25, unlimited [1] - utility [3] - 215:8, veterans [47] - 26:2, 103:20, 227:12 216:10, 216:12, 218:8, 218:9, 219:10, 207:16 221:12, 223:7 26:7, 26:8, 28:2, voting [1] - 170:10 220:1, 220:21, 221:7, unnecessary [1] - Utility [6] - 175:18, 28:10, 28:11, 28:12, 225:12 177:23, 179:10, 28:18, 29:5, 29:16, 221:11, 222:24, W 223:5, 224:4, 225:20, unofficial [1] - 38:13 222:25, 223:6 29:17, 29:22, 30:12, 227:5 unreasonable [1] - utilize [2] - 122:1, 30:15, 31:10, 32:4, wagon [1] - 68:3 water [306] - 34:13, 207:3 214:23 32:7, 32:8, 32:10, wait [2] - 59:16, 76:8 34:17, 113:6, 118:13, unsustainable [1] - utilized [1] - 54:25 34:3, 34:18, 34:24, waiting [1] - 73:14 120:15, 135:3, 227:19 utilizing [2] - 190:8, 35:7, 35:10, 35:14, waive [1] - 179:12 162:22, 163:11, unsworn [1] - 176:15 216:6 35:15, 35:21, 35:23, walk [2] - 162:25, 163:18, 163:20, untimely [1] - 28:24 36:6, 36:10, 36:13, 166:19

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163:22, 163:24, 200:25, 201:13, 231:11, 232:1, 66:12 wonderful [3] - 163:25, 164:2, 164:3, 202:10, 202:12, 232:11, 232:13 Whitehouse [3] - 116:24, 117:3, 117:7 164:5, 164:11, 202:14, 203:2, water-use [1] - 61:17, 63:22, 64:3 wood [2] - 66:20, 164:14, 164:15, 204:16, 204:18, 228:13 who've [1] - 43:1 97:9 167:24, 168:8, 204:19, 204:22, watering [1] - 197:22 whole [3] - 48:4, woods [1] - 70:11 168:11, 168:22, 205:3, 205:5, 205:6, waters [6] - 120:24, 121:2, 229:12 word [1] - 202:4 168:25, 169:7, 172:3, 205:8, 205:10, 126:9, 192:7, 200:4, wholly [1] - 97:11 workers' [2] - 20:1, 172:18, 173:9, 205:12, 205:13, 223:12, 224:10 wife [2] - 131:20 20:8 175:19, 176:25, 205:15, 205:17, WATKINS [4] - Wildlife [1] - 78:17 works [4] - 26:3, 177:3, 177:18, 205:19, 205:20, 108:6, 108:17, wildlife [1] - 93:12 30:7, 63:11, 139:6 184:15, 184:16, 205:21, 205:23, 109:17, 110:5 Williams [2] - 2:20, workshop [2] - 184:17, 184:19, 206:2, 206:3, 206:8, Watkins [2] - 2:14, 151:6 193:25, 195:9 185:2, 185:8, 185:10, 206:9, 206:12, 108:4 WILLIAMS [29] - workshops [2] - 185:12, 185:14, 206:14, 206:16, ways [3] - 92:21, 151:10, 151:21, 143:12, 194:23 185:15, 185:18, 206:17, 206:19, 117:24, 122:1 151:24, 152:3, 152:6, world [4] - 39:6, 185:21, 185:22, 206:22, 207:5, 207:6, weather [15] - 152:11, 152:15, 63:21, 128:2, 131:19 185:23, 186:3, 186:4, 207:7, 207:9, 207:11, 185:16, 186:20, 152:18, 152:22, World [2] - 31:1, 42:6 186:7, 186:9, 186:12, 207:13, 207:17, 187:11, 190:9, 200:6, 153:3, 153:6, 153:9, world-class [1] - 186:14, 186:16, 207:18, 207:20, 200:22, 203:24, 153:13, 153:17, 39:6 186:17, 186:18, 208:4, 209:1, 209:13, 205:12, 206:15, 153:22, 154:3, 154:8, worry [1] - 69:6 186:22, 186:23, 209:14, 209:17, 206:25, 218:1, 154:21, 155:20, worst [1] - 70:20 186:24, 187:2, 187:5, 210:3, 210:7, 210:16, 218:10, 219:16, 156:14, 157:6, 158:3, worthwhile [1] - 187:6, 187:8, 187:9, 210:20, 210:25, 220:6, 228:8 159:13, 159:16, 102:9 187:10, 187:13, 211:1, 211:6, 211:8, website [2] - 22:18, 159:24, 160:11, wound [1] - 156:3 187:16, 187:17, 211:9, 211:10, 109:10 160:19, 161:3, 161:7 wrap [2] - 59:21, 187:18, 187:21, 212:15, 212:19, week [2] - 45:9, willing [2] - 63:12, 142:12 187:22, 188:1, 188:2, 212:22, 213:1, 213:4, 45:10 82:18 writ [2] - 166:12, 188:4, 188:6, 188:9, 213:7, 213:9, 213:11, weekly [4] - 45:6, willingness [2] - 166:14 188:21, 188:24, 213:21, 214:21, 131:12, 131:13, 55:5, 117:17 write [3] - 55:1, 189:2, 189:4, 189:7, 215:2, 215:4, 215:7, 131:25 wind [1] - 124:8 74:23, 76:2 189:9, 189:12, 215:9, 215:11, weeks [3] - 33:9, winding [1] - 117:20 writing [1] - 73:13 189:13, 189:15, 215:16, 215:23, 47:21, 158:22 windstorm [1] - written [5] - 159:3, 189:17, 189:18, 215:25, 216:2, 216:5, weighted [1] - 77:3 124:2 176:14, 184:5, 186:2, 189:19, 189:21, 216:8, 217:5, 217:19, welcome [5] - 3:3, winter [1] - 131:6 210:1 189:22, 189:23, 218:7, 218:12, 3:5, 122:21, 155:20, wintertime [3] - wrongfully [1] - 70:7 189:25, 190:1, 190:2, 218:13, 218:20, 182:14 130:10, 131:7, 131:15 Wyman [2] - 20:25, 190:4, 190:5, 190:6, 218:21, 219:14, wellfield [1] - 216:8 wisdom [1] - 73:1 21:2 190:7, 190:8, 190:11, 219:20, 220:4, WERE [1] - 8:21 wise [1] - 99:2 190:12, 190:15, 220:25, 221:20, West [5] - 122:3, wisely [1] - 71:8 190:16, 190:17, 222:8, 222:13, Y 135:17, 135:19, withdraw [5] - 85:3, 190:19, 190:20, 222:14, 223:10, 138:1, 138:2 85:6, 85:8, 87:5, y'all [8] - 7:17, 44:5, 190:21, 190:23, 223:11, 223:19, wet [15] - 185:15, 223:11 50:16, 61:5, 67:21, 190:24, 191:1, 191:2, 223:21, 223:22, 186:19, 187:10, withdrawal [6] - 68:6, 68:8, 70:10 191:5, 191:6, 191:8, 223:23, 224:2, 224:6, 190:9, 200:6, 200:22, 185:8, 186:17, 200:4, Yankee [1] - 213:19 191:9, 191:10, 224:7, 224:11, 203:24, 205:12, 200:20, 207:25, 219:5 year [58] - 9:25, 10:3, 191:13, 191:15, 224:12, 224:13, 206:15, 206:25, withdrawals [18] - 11:10, 14:15, 14:18, 191:17, 191:21, 224:14, 224:16, 218:1, 218:10, 15:16, 20:3, 27:23, 191:23, 191:25, 224:18, 224:19, 184:17, 186:18, 219:16, 220:6, 228:8 33:20, 35:16, 36:14, 192:3, 192:5, 192:8, 225:1, 225:6, 225:8, 186:23, 188:2, 188:4, wetland [3] - 218:5, 200:18, 201:13, 36:19, 37:8, 38:4, 192:12, 192:13, 225:10, 225:12, 220:11 38:11, 38:13, 39:17, 193:6, 193:9, 193:12, 225:15, 225:17, 202:10, 203:18, wetlands [1] - 40:21, 46:3, 65:12, 193:13, 193:14, 227:9, 227:10, 203:23, 218:1, 218:7, 227:23 218:10, 219:17, 73:8, 76:10, 81:10, 194:25, 195:2, 227:13, 227:14, wheelchairs [1] - 82:9, 93:23, 113:21, 195:10, 196:16, 227:18, 227:20, 220:25, 227:13, 35:11 122:23, 126:5, 129:6, 196:24, 197:1, 197:4, 227:25, 228:2, 228:6, 227:15, 227:18 whereby [1] - 120:6 [1] 130:16, 132:3, 138:1, 197:5, 197:8, 197:10, 228:7, 228:10, withdrawing - WHEREUPON [3] - 140:13, 140:14, 197:19, 197:21, 228:12, 228:13, 232:10 144:20, 145:20, 198:2, 198:5, 198:7, 228:14, 228:21, 3:12, 8:21, 234:2 withdrawn [1] - [1] 145:25, 146:19, 198:9, 199:25, 200:3, 228:24, 229:2, 229:3, whichever - 206:17 146:25, 147:10, 200:5, 200:18, 230:14, 230:18, 147:10 women [2] - 8:8, 147:18, 148:10, 200:20, 200:21, 230:19, 230:22, white [3] - 65:7, 66:7, 41:11

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148:11, 148:13, 151:13, 151:18, 152:2, 152:4, 152:12, 152:13, 153:1, 153:4, 159:1, 166:15, 232:16 year's [1] - 35:4 year-round [1] - 132:3 yearly [2] - 147:16, 147:19 years [42] - 7:19, 27:6, 27:21, 28:4, 28:8, 28:19, 29:6, 29:11, 30:3, 31:4, 31:16, 33:25, 34:9, 36:25, 38:21, 38:25, 40:19, 40:22, 41:10, 41:19, 50:3, 51:20, 63:7, 63:18, 65:17, 114:6, 124:16, 128:16, 130:7, 130:17, 134:14, 137:18, 137:20, 137:21, 139:19, 144:18, 153:12, 210:2, 218:6, 220:12, 223:25, 226:14 yellow [1] - 44:19 yesterday [1] - 68:4 young [3] - 28:4, 29:6, 31:16 younger [1] - 41:4 yourself [1] - 43:20 Youth [1] - 3:7

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zero [1] - 38:23

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