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43rd PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION House of Commons Debates Official Report (Hansard) Volume 149 No. 043 Tuesday, July 21, 2020 Speaker: The Honourable Anthony Rota CONTENTS (Table of Contents appears at back of this issue.) 2651 HOUSE OF COMMONS Tuesday, July 21, 2020 The House met at 10 a.m. Canada. The Thames also contains the largest diversity of clams, the threatened eastern spiny softshell turtle and one of the most di‐ verse fish communities in Canada. Prayer In 2000, the Canadian heritage rivers system named the Thames ● (1005) River a designated heritage river. Its existence is a crucial part of our heritage and it must be protected. [Translation] The Speaker: Colleagues, before we begin our proceedings, I would like to say a few words. The bill, which would amend the Navigable Waters Act, was first introduced in 2013 by my predecessor, but was ignored by the gov‐ [English] ernment of the day. During the 2015 election, the Liberals promised Pursuant to orders made on Monday, July 20, the application of the Canadian people that they would prioritize the amendment to Standing Order 17 will be suspended until Monday, September 21 the Navigable Waters Act. Today, I am calling upon the government to allow members to practise physical distancing. I encourage all once again to keep its word, protect the Thames River and support members to follow this and other recommended best practices dur‐ my bill. ing today's proceedings. [Translation] (Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed) Therefore, members desiring to speak and address the Chair may * * * do so from any seat in the House. ● (1010) [English] Finally, I ask that all members tabling a document or moving a NATIONAL FRESHWATER STRATEGY ACT motion sign the document and bring it to the table themselves. Ms. Lindsay Mathyssen (London—Fanshawe, NDP) moved for leave to introduce Bill C-245, An Act respecting the develop‐ ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS ment of a national strategy in relation to fresh water. [English] She said: Mr. Speaker, there definitely is a theme today for me as NAVIGABLE WATERS ACT I rise to introduce my second bill. Ms. Lindsay Mathyssen (London—Fanshawe, NDP) moved for leave to introduce Bill C-244, An Act to amend the Canadian Navigable Waters Act (North Thames River, Middle Thames River This bill comes after consultations with local environmentalists, and Thames River). conservation authorities and members from the Oneida Nation of the Thames. It calls on the government to commit to a national She said: Mr. Speaker, it is my pleasure to reintroduce this bill to freshwater strategy. amend the Navigable Waters Act in order to ensure the integrity of the Thames River. The Thames River stretches 273 kilometres, ex‐ tending from southwestern Ontario to Lake St. Clair. It flows past The Thames River runs through my riding of London—Fan‐ many communities, including, of course, the city of London. shawe, but we also are so fortunate to have several wetlands and environmentally significant areas such as Meadowlily Woods, Pot‐ The Thames is the only major river in Canada with the majority tersburg Valley and Westminster Ponds. These areas are home to an of its watershed within the Carolinian life zone. This region is rec‐ incredible number of birds, wildlife and vegetation. Of course, we ognized as one of the most biologically significant and diverse re‐ are influenced by the beauty of the Great Lakes, which provides all gions in Canada, with more 2,200 species of vascular plants identi‐ our communities with environmental benefits that deserve targeted fied, including the only two locations of the wood poppy in protection and sustainable planning. 2652 COMMONS DEBATES July 21, 2020 Privilege It has been well over 20 years since the government established a Speaker, I am rising to address the question of privilege raised yes‐ policy on fresh water, and environmental conditions have certainly terday by the member for Regina—Qu'Appelle. I would note that changed since 1987. While Canada has seemingly abundant fresh‐ this matter was previously raised in a meeting of the committee of water resources, very little of it is actually renewable. We need a the whole on July 8. modernized national freshwater strategy. The protection of our fresh water is vital. Whether for tourism, agriculture, recreational use, health or household needs, the health The member raised concerns about the Prime Minister's response of our water is instrumental to our regions and our country's sus‐ to a question in the committee of the whole on July 8. The ex‐ tained growth, environmental stability and safety. change concerned the Ethics Commissioner's investigation on a matter last year. The member argued that the Prime Minister misled I hope I can count on all-party support for the bill to protect our the House when he stated that the government took the unprece‐ fresh water for generations to come. dented step of waiving cabinet confidentiality and solicitor-client (Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed) confidentiality so that the Ethics Commissioner could fully investi‐ gate the matter at hand. The member argued that the matter was not * * * fully investigated, because the Ethics Commissioner reported that he did not have access to additional cabinet confidences. PETITIONS WORKPLACE SAFETY Ms. Heather McPherson (Edmonton Strathcona, NDP): Mr. The Prime Minister's response is not being taken into proper con‐ Speaker, I stand in the House today to bring forward a very impor‐ text. It is clear that the Prime Minister was speaking about the gov‐ tant petition. ernment's rationale for taking an unprecedented step to co-operate with the Ethics Commissioner. Furthermore, fully investigating a As Canada, and indeed the entire world, slowly reopens its econ‐ matter does not mean that the Ethics Commissioner must have full omy during the COVID-19 pandemic, it is vital that workers are access to all cabinet confidences and to all solicitor-client privi‐ protected. leged information. It means that the commissioner has the informa‐ Across Canada, we have already seen examples where compa‐ tion he needs to fulfill his duties under the Conflict of Interest Act. nies have put their profits ahead of the safety and health of their This means that the commissioner is able to examine a matter and workers. Whether it is a migrant worker in Ontario or meat-packing to produce a report that sets out the facts in question and provides plant workers in my home province of Alberta, workers' rights to a the commissioner's analysis and conclusions. safe environment must be protected, and the ability of workers to continue to support themselves and their families is a key piece of a successful reopening. As a result, the issue raised by the member is, at best, a dispute as to the facts and does not meet the threshold of constituting a pri‐ The petitioners note, as provinces increase the list of businesses ma facie question of privilege. that can reopen, that many front-line workers may not feel safe re‐ turning to work for many reasons, including an inability to physi‐ cally distance or higher risks for individuals and their families. They call on the government to amend the CERB eligibility re‐ The Conflict of Interest Act does not provide the Ethics Commis‐ quirements to include workers who cannot return to their jobs vol‐ sioner authority to access cabinet confidences or solicitor-client untarily due to concerns related to COVID-19. privileged information for an investigation. Parliament did not grant this authority to the commissioner when it passed the act in * * * 2006. Authority to disclose cabinet confidence or waive solicitor- client privilege rests with the executive branch of government. QUESTIONS ON THE ORDER PAPER Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Parliamentary Secretary to the Presi‐ dent of the Queen’s Privy Council for Canada and to the Lead‐ er of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.): Mr. This government is committed to transparency and accountabili‐ Speaker, I ask that all questions be allowed to stand. ty. This government has co-operated with the Ethics Commissioner to ensure that the commissioner is able to examine matters and pro‐ The Speaker: Is that agreed? duce reports. Some hon. members: Agreed. * * * Regarding the matter at hand, the government recognized that PRIVILEGE certain cabinet confidence and certain solicitor-client privileged in‐ formation could be important to the commissioner's investigation. RESPONSE BY THE PRIME MINISTER The Prime Minister's response on July 8 explains the basis for the Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Parliamentary Secretary to the Presi‐ government's decision to take an unprecedented step of issuing an dent of the Queen’s Privy Council for Canada and to the Lead‐ order in council to authorize the disclosure of cabinet confidences er of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.): Mr. to the Ethics Commissioner and to waive solicitor-client privilege. July 21, 2020 COMMONS DEBATES 2653 Government Orders The government wanted to co-operate with the Ethics Commis‐ have undertaken and our government's next steps toward creating sioner so that he could fully investigate the matter on the merits and an inclusive and barrier-free Canada. produce a report, and this is what the Ethics Commissioner was able to do. The commissioner stated as much in his report when he wrote, In 2015, our government named the first-ever cabinet minister “In the present examination, I have gathered sufficient factual in‐ responsible for persons with disabilities and promised Canadians formation to properly determine the matter on its merits.” The that we would pass legislation aimed at removing barriers to inclu‐ member himself quoted this statement when he raised this issue on sion.