Warren Commission, Volume III: Ruth Hyde Paine
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Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Representative FORD. What part of the garage-- Mrs. PAINE. Close to the doorway here, the entrance, this entrance. Representative FOXD. The entrance going into th- Mrs. PAINE.’ The doorway between the garage and the kitchen-dining area. Right here. Representative FORD. You didn’t move around the garage? Mrs. PAINE. I moved around enough to get some shellac and brush and make a place, a block is this big, to paint. Representative Foan. Where do you recollect, if you do, the blanket was at this time? Mrs. PAINE. I don’t recollect. It was the next day- Representative Form. It was the forepart of the garage on the left-hand side? Mrs. PAINE. Beyond. Mr. MCCLOY. Does anyone have any further questions? Mr. JENNEB. No questions, Mr. Chairman. Representative Ford has directed the attention of the witness to the document which is now Exhibit No. 430, and when we reconvene in the morning I will qualify the exhibit. Mr. McCno~. Is that all? We will reconvene at 9 a.m., tomorrow. (Whereupon, at $ :30 p.m., the President’s Commission recessed.) Friday, March 20, 1964 TESTIMONY OF RUTH HYDE PAINE RESUMED The President’s Commission met at 9:05 a.m. on Friday, March 39, 1964, at 209 Maryland Avenue NE., Washington, D.C. Present were Chief Justice Earl Warren, Chairman ; Senator John Sherman Cooper, Representative Gerald R. Ford, and John J. I&Cloy, members. Also present were J. Lee Rankin, general counsel; Albert 1. Jenner, Jr., assistant counsel ; and Wesley J. Liebeler, assistant counsel. Senator COOPEB. Mrs. Paine, you, I think, yesterday aflirmed, made al?lrma- tion as to the truthfulness of your testimony? Mrs. PAIIVE. Yes, I did. Senator COOPJXRYou are still under that affirmation? Mrs. PAINE. I understand that I am under that athrmation. Mr. JENIVEB. May I proceed? Thank you. Mrs. Paine, just to put you at ease this morning, Mr. Chairman, may I qualify some documents? The CHAIRMAN. Good morning, gentlemen and ladles. How are you, Mrs. Paine? I am glad to see you this morning. Mr. JE~NJZEL Mrs. Paine, I show you Commission Exhibit No. 435 which you produced and which you testified was the original of a letter of October l4,1933, to your mother, part of which you read at large in the record. Is that document in your handwriting entirely? Mrs. PAINE. Yes; it is. Mr. JEIVNEE. You testified it is a letter from you to your mother? Mrs. PAINE. That is right. Mr. JENNER Did you dispatch the letter? Mrs. PAINE. I did. 50 Mr. JENNEB. In view of that fact would you explain for the record how you came into possession of the letter since you sent it to your mother? Mrs. PAINE. She gave it to me a few days ago. Mr. JENNER. Is the document now in the same condition it was when you mailed it to your mother? Mrs. PAINE. Yes; it is. You have the first page of two. The other page not being relative to this case. Mr. JENNEE. In other words, that there be no question about it, do you have the other page? Mrs. PAINE. I have the other page. Mr. JENNEB. May I have it? Mrs. PAINE. The other page, of course, contains my signature. Mr. JENNEB. Yes. May the record be amended to show that Commission Ex- hibit No. -. Mrs. PAINE. I’d rather not have that part of it- Mr. JENNEE. It is not going into the record, Mrs. Paine. Just be patient. Commission Exhibit 425 consists of two pages, that is two sheets. The pages are numbered from one through four. ,Would you look at the page numbered 4? There is a signature appearing at the bottom of it. Is that your signature? Mrs. PAINE. Yes: it is. Mr. JENNEB. Mr. Chairman, may I postpone the offer of this document in evidence until I do read the second page, which the witness has now produced. You see, Mrs. Paine, that it may be important to the Commission to have the entire letter which would indicate the context in which the statements that are relevant were made. You testified yesterday with regard to the draft of what appeared to be a letter that Mr. Oswald, Lee Harvey Oswald, was to send. It was thought he might send it to someone. I hand you a picture of a letter in longhand which has been identifled as Commission Exhibit 103. Would you look at that please? Do you recognize that handwriting? Mrs. PAINE. No. This is the only time I saw-this is the only handwriting of his I have seen. Mr. JENNER. You can’t identify the document as such, that is, are you familar enough with his handwriting- Mrs. PAINE. To know that this is his handwriting? Mr. JENNEB. To identify whether that is or is not his handwriting. Mrs. PAINE No. Mr. JENNEB. Have you ever seen that Document before? Mrs. PAINE. Yes ; I have. Mr. JENNEB. When did you first see it? Mrs. PAINE. I first saw that on Saturday, the 9th of November. I don’t believe I looked to see what it said until the morning of the 10th. Mr. JENNER I see. Now, do you recognize it, however, as a picture of the document that you did see on the 9th of November, or did you say ICkh? Mrs. PAINE. 1’11 say lOth, yes ; it is that document. Senator COOPEB. What is the answer? Mrs. PAINE. It is that document. Mr: JENNEB. And I take it from your testimony that after you had seen the original of this document, this document happens to be a photo, you saw a typed transcript of this document or substantially this document? Mrs. PAINE. I never saw a typed transcript. Mr. JENNEB. You did not? Mrs. PAINE. No. Mr. JENNER. Mrs. Paine, you testified yesterday that Lee Harvey Oswald asked you if he could use your typewriter? Mrs. PAINE. That is right. Mr. JENNER. And he did proceed to use the typewriter to type a letter or at least some document? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. And that you saw a document folded in half and one portion of it arrested your attention? Mrs. PAINE. Yes ; that is correct. 51 Mr. JENNEB. Was ,the document that arrested your attention the typed docu- ment or was it the document that is before you? Mrs. PAINE. I never saw the typed document. It was the document that is before me, which I take to be a rough draft of what he typed. Mr. JENNEB. And you said you made a duplicate of the document. Did you make a duplicate in longhand or on your typewriter? Mrs. PAINE. I made a duplicate in longhand. Mr. JENNEB. But you do have a present recollection that this, Commission Exhibit No. 103 for identification, is the document which you saw in your home on your desk secretary? Mrs. PAINE. That is right. Mr. JENNEB. Mr. Chairman, I offer in evidence as Commission Exhibit No. 103 the document--oh, it is already in evidence. I withdraw that offer. Senator COOPEZB. It is in evidence. Mr. JENNEB. Mr. Redlich informs me, Mr. Chairman, that the document has already been admitted in evidence. Now, would you follow me as I go through these? There has been marked as Commission’s Exhibit 430, which is the mark at the moment for identiflca- tion, what purports to be a floor plan outline of the Paine home at 2515 Fifth Street, Irving, Tex., and the witness made reference to that yesterday close to the close of her testimony yesterday afternoon. Directing your attention to that exhibit, is that an accurate floor plan outline of your home at 2515 Fifth Street, Irving, Tex.? Mrs. PAINE. It is an approximately accurate floor plan. Mr. JENNEB. And is it properly entitled, that is, are the rooms and sections of the home properly entitled? Mrs. PAINE. Yes; they are. Mr. JENIVEX And does it accurately reflect the door openings, the hallways in your home and the garage? Mrs. PAINE. Yes ; it is perfectly accurate. Mr. JENNFZ I think one thing only needs some explanation. In the upper left-hand corner of the floor plan outline, there is a square, space which has no lettering to identify that space. It is the area immediately to the left of the--of what is designated as kitchen-dining area. Mrs. PAINE. Yes. That space is all one room with that which is designated kitchen-dining area. That is one large room. Mr. JENNEB. I see. So that even though on the floor plan outline the words “kitchen-dining area” appear in the right half of that space, that lettering and wording is to apply to all the space? Mrs. PAINE. That is right. Mr. JE~NEB. And the driveway about which you testified is that portion of the ground outline which has the circle with the figure “8” and an arrow, is that right? Mrs. PAINE. That is the driveway. Mr. JENNEB. And the driveway is where the car was parked because the garage always had too many things in it to get your car in? Mrs. PAINE. That is right. Mr. Jxxvwxu. Referring to Commission Exhibit No. 431 for identitlcation, is that a front view of your home? Mrs. PAINE. Yes; it is. Mr. JENNEB. Were you present when the picture was taken? Mrs. PAINE. Yes ; I was. Mr. JENNEB. Commission Exhibit 432, is that a rear view of your home? Mrs. PAINE. Yes ; it is. Mr. JENNEB. Were you present when that was taken? Mrs.