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A bishop speaks: Interview with the Most Reverend received by the Muslim countries which are their Athanasius Schneider by Fr.Javier Olivera Ravasi. neighbors who are rich - Saudi Arabia and others for example. This would be the most logical and most Taking advantage of the visit that bishop Schneider humane, because from a moral point of view, in all made to Argentina, we had the opportunity to immigration, it should be avoided to take people out interview him. We offer here the video and of their normal ambiance, their mentality, their transcription https://www.youtube.com/watch? time_continue=1&v=cr-a8KqgMSg history, etc., and this is the great mistake which the It is worth it to take the time to listen. With politicians are doing, evidently in their program. humility, serenity and joy bishop Schneider received Certainly among these immigrants are innocent us during a visit of about 3 or 4 days to Buenos Aires. people who are suffering and who are being used as He gave his time because for great souls, there is no instruments, but the majority are young men who hurry. have left their families. Fr. Javier Oivera Ravasi: Is there a certain theme What refugee flees his country leaving his wife that you would like to make known to us - I say this and children? No man would do this. The man before beginning the inverview. would remain there where his family is to defend it. Bishop Schneider: “There is nothing hidden that will This is another point that this phenomenon of so not be revealed:ask what you wish and I will respond called immigration is a planned political action. correctly in Italian. Fr. Javier Oivera Ravasi: We find ourselves in this Fr. Javier Oivera Ravasi: Good, then I ask first a 100th anniversary of the apparition of the Virgin of question that is a bit uncomfortable. You are an Fatima. Our Lady said then that if Russia with all of auxiliary bishop of Astaná Kasakstán ..., how is it that the doctrinal, ideological and other errors were not you are able to travel? converted, that these errors would be dispersed Bishop Schneider:It is true. It is that at the same throughout the world. Do you believe that the time my archbishop Tomasz Peta on whom I depend ideology of gender supported by cultural Marxism has asked me. It happens, especially in these times of and through progressivism in the Church, could be confusion that it is important that we bishops speak, the consequences of the Virgin’s prophecy in 1917? especially when the flock of whom I am auxiliary Bishop Schneider: We know that the Virgin has said bishop is so small and well cared for (about .05% of that Russia would spread her errors throughout the his diocese is Catholic.) world and that among these first errors would be the Fr. Javier Oivera Ravasi: Then, let us begin. You intention to convert all of society to atheism. This is a come from a country of a great majority of Muslims. unique thing in human history. Never before in What do you believe should be the criteria of history has their been an atheistic people or an accepting immigrants who are not Christian on the atheistic culture, even among the most primitive ones. European continent? The second, apart from this great error to Bishop Schneider: The first criteria that we should found a society without religion, atheism is the take int account is the phenomenon of this so called materialism, that is to say that all of societal life “immigration” (that is not immigration but only consists in the temporal realm. It is an attempt at the supposed immigration), because the facts demonstrate radical exclusion of the transcendent, of the that these so called immigrants are the fruit of global supernatural. politics, an artificial immigration made up to transport The tired error that the USSR implanted was a great number of Moslems, especially Moslems, to abortion. As we know, the USSR was the first the Christian countries of Europe. country in the world that in 1920 imposed abortion, It is evident, that those who still use their the destruction of life. intelligence and realistically see this phenomenon, These errors were spread in countries that it is a political move regionally and globally done traditionally Christian: abortion, radical materialism by the great powers of the world with the ulterior and the exclusion of the transcendent, the motive of de-Christianizing Europe. It is the mixing supernatural, the immersion in the world of merely of the peoples so that Europe lose its identity, which material and, as you have said, cultural Marxism, that is none other than a Christian identity. The war in the has been created in Europe during the time of the Middle East, for example, has been caused by the so Cold War; including here in Latin America, called Islamic State which has been financed and Liberation Theology was a creation of the errors of assisted by the United States and the European Union the USSR, that given here with disastrous through some of the Arab countries. The migration consequences of destruction of the the truly Catholic phenomenon has been made possible, yet the natural spiritual life in the countries of Latin America. thing was that these immigrants should have been Also the so called “gender theory” is the how to translate its own books, especially in the ultimate consequence of cultural Marxism. dogmatic expressions. In the sphere of the church also these errors of I think that the Church, the Holy See, should Russia, of communism, of Marxism have entered in a instead be more vigilant, and give to the Episcopal way more evident and with greater force in the life of Conferences concrete norms as was done with the Church. Beginning with the Second Vatican Liturgiam Authenticam of John Paul II. According to Council and especially after the council there has my conviction then, I see no need to put into effect been a reduction in the supernatural aspect of the life this new document, because it was enough with John of the Church, of the coming together, of the pastoral Paul II. in the depths a concentration on the purely material Fr. Javier Oivera Ravasi: The Synod of the family and temporal aspects. Today we have to establish brought some difficulties and divisions among the almost the highest point of this attitude of nature, participating bishops. ON the other hand the post materialism in the pastoral aspect and in the activity synodal exhortation, Amoris Laetitia with the of the church spread throughout, confirming that interpretation of the same Pope Francis (according to these errors have entered also into the life of the the letter sent to the bishops of Buenos Aires) Church. appeared to be a change in the doctrine of the church Fr. Javier Oivera Ravasi: A few weeks ago the Motu with respect to the reception of Communion on the Proprio “Magnum Principium” was published; this part of those persons who are in an situation of grants the national bishops conferences the faculty to objective sin. Some Cardinals have proposed doubts do the translations of the liturgical books in the (dubia) to the Pope over this issue, including various vernacular. Is it possible that the translations might theologians, bishops and distinguished academics not be done well against the unity of the Church? In who proposed a filial correction (Correctio Filialis). the same sense, what do you believe would be the Much of the laity suffer to understand that the Church solution before the chaos unleashed in the last is giving these new changes so abruptly, and that at liturgical reform? the same time, it is being questioned if it is licit and Bishop Schneider: You have spoken rightly against legitimate that a bishop, a cardinal or a simple the liturgical chaos. We have lived more than 50 layman ask or even correct the Holy Father over years in the liturgical anarchy of the church. This these issues. What is your opinion with respect to contradicts, justly the note of the “unity” of the this? Church because not only do we have unity in the Bishop Schneider: The first thing that we should say faith, that is the lex credendi, but that the church is that it is evident and undeniable that the document should also have unity in the lex orandi, in the liturgy. Amoris Laetitia has caused a great confusion. There Certainly there exists, as has existed always in are some episcopal conferences that in fact permit the Church, various liturgical rites; this is beauty and access to those who are divorced and unrepentant, is the richness of the Church; but the danger that we that is to say who wish to continue living in adultery. have today and that we have already experienced is Because this is adultery! We have to call these things that the translations in the vernacular languages in by their name. Other episcopal conferences deny it. some linguistic regions have produced harm that has Some diocesan bishops do it, others do not. And here also touched the faith. The translations, for example, we have the evident situation, a diametric were so full of defects in some countries that Pope contradiction right in front of us between one John Paul II had to intervene publishing the document episcopal conference and another, between one Liturgiam authenticam, where the Holy See bishop and another. This is not the Catholic Church, prescribed with much clarity how certain theological because about these things, that are referred to are the and dogmatic concepts should be translated in the sacredness and indissolubility of Matrimony, the liturgy; because in the liturgy we proclaim our faith in church should speak with only one voice and act dogmatic formulae.