Interview with Craig Hodges During His Ten Years in the NBA, Craig
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Interview with Craig Hodges During his ten years in the NBA, Craig Hodges achieved many great successes as a player, winning two NBA Finals championships with the Chicago Bulls and three consecutive Three-Point Contest titles at the NBA’s All-Star Weekend. As an activist, he fought for and continues to fight for many of the most vulnerable in American society. The following is a transcript of Craig Hodges’ interview with Brian Burmeister on May 5, 2017. BB: Hi, this is Brian Burmeister with the Sport Literature Association. Today I’m joined by Craig Hodges, one of the greatest three-point shooters in NBA history. He recently wrote and released the book Long Shot: The Triumphs and Struggles of an NBA Freedom Fighter. ThanK you so much for joining me here today, Craig. CH: Appreciate it, man. BB: The booK itself really explores your whole life, from your upbringing, through your college and NBA careers, all the way up through today. Much of the early part of the book focuses on your upbringing in Chicago Heights. Would you be willing to talK us through the role your family and the community itself played in shaping your mind and your values. CH: I appreciate it man. Once again just thanKing God for an opportunity to speaK about things that have been pertinent in my life. And nothing more pertinent than the family and the community that I was raised in. I wouldn’t change it for anything in the world. Knowing that it was truly a village. To Know that everybody cared. We lived in the projects where we didn’t locK our doors, didn’t have a Key for our house when we moved out, stuff liKe that, memories that I know shaped how I thinK about life. And to be a baby and be part of the Civil Rights Movement. Seeing the activities that were going on not only in my household but within the community, it was part of my constitution early in life. To be able to go on and study, and my aunts were sticKlers, as well as my mom and my sister, about me being able to read and write. And Knowing the importance of that in comparison to my uncles, who taught me how to play sports, it was a good balance. I had the best of both worlds. I had a good educational support group, and I had an awesome sports group. So it was one of those things where I was destined to do what I’m doing. So I feel good for that. BB: Wonderful. Certainly I feel that bacKground influenced heavily the choices you were maKing throughout your career itself. As one of the most vocal activists of your era of the NBA, were you surprised at all by the hesitation you received from other players when you were advocating for certain causes? CH: At that point in my career, not really. Because, honestly speaKing, I Knew what I was up against. I would share with every player that I played with, basically for my ten-year career, what I was studying. And what I was studying all the time was something that was of a conscious perspective, something that most of the time was counter what you would learn in college, and it was more of a perspective of looKing at things from history. History is usually taught on three levels: you have a perpetrator, you have a collaborator, and you have a victim. And the history booKs aren’t told from the victim’s perspective. It’s told from the perspective of people who conquered. And I thinK from that perspective I’ve always been for the underdog, I’ve always been for the oppressed, I’ve always been for the masses, and I’m with the masses. So from that standpoint, I’ve looKed at things from the alternate side of things. Often times I would share that, and it would be some great conversations, throughout my career, and it continues to be that. And I just think that at that period of time players were more cognizant of how much money they could maKe in this short opportunity in life, which is cool. But me, it was more of a thing where I understood the perspective of using the power, the visibility of being an NBA player to try to galvanize support for those issues that people in the inner-cities were facing. BB: One of the most famous moments where you were doing everything you could to be a voice for the voiceless was when you gave then President George H.W. Bush a handwritten letter during the Bulls championship visit to the White House. In the 25 years since there have been a whole lot of assumptions made about the contents of that letter. And so I was wondering if you would be willing to share with us here today—what actually did you write to the President? CH: Well basically, it was—so crazy—in 2015 I was approached by a guy who was doing a thing for ESPN 30 for 30. And he wanted to do it about the letter. So we got together. Did all the filming. And they never released it. And it’s been over two years now. So it’s funny how the letter is pertinent to today and how the NBA won’t allow it to come out. It’s something that’s striKing to me, but I love it. I love it because it puts me on the right side of history. But the letter entailed—basically it said, “Dear Mr. President, I appreciate the invite for coming to this great edifice, understanding that I wouldn’t get a chance to come unless I was part of a championship team. That being the case I want to thank you for this opportunity. But also I want to maKe sure that I speak on behalf of those who are disenfranchised, those who are voiceless, those who wouldn’t get a chance to come here, liKe me being raised in the projects, I would have never had a chance to come here. And that being the case I want to maKe sure that you consider the issues of poor people, people who don’t feel liKe they have any hope, and especially I want to speak on behalf of the African Americans who have been here under four years of free labor, and our issues need to be heard, as well as those of foreign policy. So would you consider these issues the same way you would consider foreign policy. And we’re not being infringed, we just want a partner.” So it wasn’t anything that was disrespectful at all, and the garment that I went in was totally in line with a royal occasion. So it was one of those things that was looKed at as being a slap in the face to the NBA and to the President. But President Bush was totally cool on that day. That’s what’s so funny when people are liKe, “Man, Bush got you blackballed.” Nah, man, I don’t know what it was, I can’t speak to it, but I just know I was taught to accept people for face value, and on that day he was cool to me. You know, I understand his politics and his policies. But as a human being, on October 1, 1991, George Bush was cool with me. BB: Certainly I think the culmination of that letter and some of the other things liKe trying to get Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson to boycott the NBA Finals, for example--all of those things in context paint a picture where certainly there is a compelling case, and you maKe it in your booK, that the NBA did blacKball you. And so looking at things now, 25 years later, and you have players liKe LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony who are much more vocal and visible in their advocacy for certain causes. In those 25 years that have passed between then and now, what do you think are the main factors in the league’s acceptance of activist athletes? CH: I thinK one of the biggest things is when you talK about just the sheer economics of it. The sheer economics of Knowing that you have 30 to 40 million in the banK. Knowing that you have another contract coming. You’re in a political climate where you can speak. You have a safety net of social media, you have a safety net of that million people who will speaK on your behalf, even if it’s from far from afar. So it’s a different climate. But at the same time I thinK so many of these same issues are still relevant. And even more so when we looK at Chicago where this year we have already had over 1000 shootings or something crazy liKe that. So I think the issues are still prevalent, now it’s just a matter of how as an athlete or an entertainer, how can you tight rope it? I call it tight roping because you have to play the corporate game and you have to be where you’re from. And that’s the part where I thinK you have to play this corporate role, but the natural, spiritual self is in a quandary, because we can do more, and we Know we should be doing more, so it’s a worK in progress.