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STATE LIBRARY OF SOUTH AUSTRALIA J. D. SOMERVILLE ORAL HISTORY COLLECTION OH 730/33 Full transcript of interviews with PAT STRETTON on 1 March; and 5 and 19 April by Madeleine Regan Recording available on CD Access for research: Unrestricted Right to photocopy: Copies may be made for research and study Right to quote or publish: Publication only with written permission from the Adelaide City Council Archives. OH 730/33 PAT STRETTON NOTES TO THE TRANSCRIPT This transcript was donated to the State Library. It was not created by the J.D. Somerville Oral History Collection and does not necessarily conform to the Somerville Collection's policies for transcription. Readers of this oral history transcript should bear in mind that it is a record of the spoken word and reflects the informal, conversational style that is inherent in such historical sources. The State Library is not responsible for the factual accuracy of the interview, nor for the views expressed therein. As with any historical source, these are for the reader to judge. This transcript had not been proofread prior to donation to the State Library and has not yet been proofread since. Researchers are cautioned not to accept the spelling of proper names and unusual words and can expect to find typographical errors as well. 2 First interview with Patricia Stretton recorded by Madeleine Regan 1 March 2013 at the North Adelaide Library for the City of Adelaide Oral History (Extension) Project 2012/2013 Oral Historian (OH): Thanks, Pat, for agreeing to be part of the project. I’m going to start the interview by asking you some background information. Could you give me your full name? Patricia (Pat) Stretton (PS): Patricia Mary Stretton. OH: And your date of birth? PS: 29 October 1937. OH: And where were you born? PS: I was born in Adelaide, and when I was born my parents lived at Woodville, and when I was five they moved to Glen Osmond. OH: Pat, what about your parents, what was your mother’s name? PS: My mother was Margaret Myfanwy Thomas, and my father was Alexander Gibson, and they had a great fellow feeling because both of their fathers were alcoholics, so there was never a drop of alcohol [laughs] in the house. OH: And where had your mother been born? PS: She was born at Lockleys. She didn’t stay at school much beyond primary school I think, but she learnt shorthand and typing, and so after she left school she was a shorthand-typiste. I’m ignorant, but I’m not sure where she worked, but she wasn’t working by the time we were born. OH: And you father, his place of birth? PS: He was born in the City, right in the City, as far as I know, but anyway that’s where he lived when he was tiny. He had three older sisters and his drunken father left his family when my father was very young. My 3 grandmother ran a boarding house on South Terrace and took in lodgers. She managed to get my father educated in primary school at Christian Brothers’ College, because they took in poor boys – he was the only boy who didn’t have a uniform. When he was 12 he had to leave school and help support the family, and he went to work at a carriers in the city called Gambling’s, he was the office boy, and whenever my sister1 and I complained about not having enough money for whatever we wanted, he’d say, When I was young I got 10/- a week as a wage, and I had to give it all to my mother. OH: Do you remember your grandmother and the boarding house on South Terrace? PS: No. She died before I was born, unfortunately on the same date as my birthday, so that was a bit sad for my father, but she was dead so I never knew her. I knew my other grandmother who came to live with us when we went to live at Glen Osmond, my grandmother and my uncle who was a hunchback, he always lived with her, and they came and lived in the house we were renting at Glen Osmond. My grandmother died when I was about 10 I think. OH: And I think that you told me also that your mother died before you were ...? PS: Yes, my mother died in 1951 I think – she had cancer – and when she died her GP, Beryl Bowering, who lived in the same street, took me as a lodger and my sister went to live at St Ann’s [University of Adelaide College] because she’d gone to university already. OH: And just to finish off your biographical details, the name of your spouse? PS: Hugh, Hugh Stretton. OH: And between you and Hugh you have? PS: When I married Hugh he had two small children who I helped bring up after that, and then we had two more children, so four altogether, who are all really fond of each other. OH: That’s lovely. If we can return to your childhood and growing up, what do you remember about the City of Adelaide as you were growing up? 1 Judy 4 PS: Well the City was a big deal. If my mother had to go to town she always put on corsets. My mother was very skinny [laughs] but she couldn’t go out without wearing boned corsets [laughs] and a hat and gloves. We had to walk about three-quarters of a mile down to catch the Glen Osmond tram if we were going by tram; my father had a car but he was at work. She used to take us to films, especially at the York (picture theatre), because the York showed English films, so they were good films [laughs]. OH: And where was the York? PS: In what’s now Rundle Mall on the corner of – my memory is faulty, you’d have to look it up in a gazetteer – I think it was near the corner of Stephens Place, yes, because they knocked it down to ... No, that’s not right because that’s Birks, and if we went to Birks they had chairs for ladies to sit on, and I can remember her buying gloves and being seated on a chair having the gloves stretched over, down, like that. OH: So they were long gloves? PS: Yes, long gloves. OH: And Pat, Birks was a department store? PS: Birks, Charles Birks, it was a very old-fashioned department store, as was Myer’s; Birks got demolished to build David Jones, and David Jones was the latest thing. When I was a teenager, anything you’d bought from David Jones had to be posh and superior [laughs] and better than anywhere else, but it was a beautiful shop to go in. John Martin’s and Myer’s didn’t care what they looked like, and David Jones, new David Jones, did, and it was all marble and reflections, and just glamorous is what it was to us. OH: Do you remember other department stores in the City? PS: Myer’s, I remember Myer’s, Birks, and John Martin’s had a wonderful place to eat with lions. Don’t ask me but there were decorative lions around it, and that was all very exciting. And the other thing we used to do, not all that often, was go to the Theatre Royal to see musicals like Annie Get Your Gun and White Horse Inn, and especially because my mother adored Gilbert and Sullivan, so we went to all the Gilbert and Sullivan operettas that ever played here, Ivan Menzies was the comic then. We didn’t ever go to plays, I suppose she thought we were too young for proper plays, though my sister, much to my chagrin, went to see Laurence Olivier and Vivien Leigh in School for Scandal, and I didn’t go, so I was not happy. 5 OH: Where was the Theatre Royal? PS: Down in Hindley Street and now a car park. OH: What about cultural things, like did you visit along North Terrace? PS: Every year we went to the Children’s Library at the back of the Museum, and we used to go to the Museum, and my strong memories were the Egyptian Room – we always had to go and see the Egyptian Room – and all the things that are terribly unfashionable and wrong – everything about the Egyptian Room apparently is wrong – and I loved that, and I loved the Dioramas with the dead birds and the eagles [laughs], louring over their prey in the Museum. The best of all were the bees, they had a beehive in the window, and you could sit there for as long as you were allowed to stay, just watching the bees flying in and out, it was just magic. That was my very favourite thing on North Terrace. And we used to go to the Art Gallery. My sister and I were both transfixed by The Descent from the Cross, and we used to look at that in a horrified way because it was so gruesome, for as long as we were allowed to look at that, and I’m ashamed to say it’s the only picture that I remember from then in the Art Gallery, because it was horrible. OH: Pat, what about eating, did you have any places in the City where you would have eaten or had drinks? PS: Yes, we went to Balfours Café, and we used to have, it wasn’t fish and chips it was fish, whiting I think, and bread and butter, and then Frog Cakes.