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Centerfor Pacific War Studies THE N AT I C N AL MUSELJMr,r rr 1)jCI1?IC p ** Fredericksburg, Texas Centerfor Pacific War Studies Interview with Mr John Bartuck USS Langley-USS Calpins Interview With John Bartuck My name if Rick Pratt, and today is September 9, 2001. I am interviewing Mr. John Bartuck. This interview is taking place in the lobby of the La Quinta, downtown San Antonio, Texas. This interview is in support of the National Museum of the Pacific War Center for War Studies for the Preservation of Historical Information related to World War II. Mr. Pratt: Mr. Bartuk, thank you very much for taking the time to relate the experiences you underwent during World War II. To start with, I’d like to ask you where and when were you born? Mr. Bartuck: In New Jersey. Mr. Pratt: Where in New Jersey? What town? Mr. Bartuck: It was so long ago. A place called Elizabeth Port. They don’t call it that anymore, but that’s what they called it then. Elizabeth Port, New Jersey. Mr. Pratt: And when? What year? Mr. Bartuck: 1917. Mr. Pratt: What were your parents names? Mr. Bartuck: My father’s name was Thomas, my mother’s name was Mary. Mr. Pratt: Did you have any brothers and sisters? Mr. Bartuck: Yes, I had four sisters, no brothers. I tried to work to get brothers but I couldn’t. My father just wasn’t up to it, I guess. Mr. Pratt: Were they younger sisters? Mr. Bartuck: They were younger, I’m the oldest. They’re all dead now. Mr. Pratt: Where did you go to school? Mr. Bartuck: It was various places. You mean grammar school? I went to grammar school about five years in North Branch, New Jersey. You ever been in New Jersey? Mr. Pratt: One time. Mr. Bartuck: What part? Baruck - 2 Mr. Pratt: Sea Warren. Mr. Bartuck: New Jersey’s a lot different than it used to be when I was a kid. They called it Garden State. It’s not a garden state any more. Mr. Pratt: Where did you enter the military? Mr. Bartuck: When I joined the Navy? 1937, in September. Mr. Pratt: Why did you choose the Navy? Why didn’t you go into the Army, or the Marines? Mr. Bartuck: I had wanted to go into the Marine Corps but they had no recruiting station there. And I didn’t want to get into the Army for the simple reason that they went nowhere. The only place they went at that time, and you had to be in the Army quite awhile, was the Canal Zone and Hawaii. That was it. So, I joined the Navy, to get around a little bit. Mr. Pratt: Where were you assigned when you first joined? Mr. Bartuck: The USS Henderson. Then I went aboard the USS Tennessee, the battleship. Mr. Pratt: What year was this? Mr. Bartuck: This was in January 1938. Mr. Pratt: What was the training? Mr. Bartuck: I wanted to get in the machinists rate, but when you came in the Navy at that time you had to be on deck, and the reason you went on deck was because they wanted you to learn everything you could about the guns. You had to spend a year, if you wanted to go to another rate like electrician or machinist’s mate, you had to spend a year on deck. I thought if I did everything they wanted me to do I’d get what I want, which was wrong. The Navy takes care of the goof pots, to tell you truth. So what happened after a year was, the bosun made his decision. I asked him, “Bosun, when do I go down the 2???. He said, “You’re not going. I’m going to send a goof pot down there.” And that’s how they operate. That’s what happened to me throughout the Navy. I couldn’t get to flight school because of this. I was aboard the Calpins, I asked the captain, “I put into flight school.” He said, “You’re not going.” I said, “Why?” He said, “Look at it this way; if we send you to flight school the Navy’s gotta pay for flight school. This way, we leave you here, and we send just one man in.” In other words, they’d have to find somebody for the job I had. I got a little disturbed about that. They told me if I didnt keep quiet, they’d put me in the brig. It got me. I mean, why do you do something like that? That’s what he did. That was in 1943 when they were taking enlisted men as pilots. My friend became a chief AP, that’s a chief airplane pilot. He flew everything. The Navy Bartuck - pilots do not fly like they used to. They flew all type of craft the Navy had. Now if you get into flight school you usually only fly a fighter, that’s it. But my friend flew everything. He flew PBYs and seaplanes and everything else. Mr. Pratt: At what point were you stationed aboard the Langley? Mr. Bartuck: At first, since I was a coxswain, I had a part of the deck which was just forward of the elevators. I ran whaleboats, motor launches, 6o-foot officers’ boats, and I finally, just before the war, I got into the captain’s gig. When Pearl Harbor hit--of course, we didn’t know much about Pearl Harbor, we didn’t Kino anything about it, they never told us anything. Because supposedly the Adriatic fleet only had so many ships there, and if they got any part of the war there, the Pacific Fleet was supposed to come over and help us. But there was no Pacific Fleet. The Japs got them. Mr. Pratt: How did you find out about Pearl Harbor? Mr. Bartuck: When I got back to the States. We got back when Langley was sunk and the Pecos was sunk, the Whipple brought us back to Australia, Perth. They issued us Australian Army clothes which were so big, too big for us. We stayed there overnight and then we went aboard the Mt. Vernon, that was a transport, back to San Francisco. And we stayed south so we wouldn’t get with the Japs, and they had a task force there. The Edsel was sunk by Japanese gunfire, but we were south of that so we didn’t get in contact with them. Mr. Pratt: So you were on the Langley at the time she was sunk? You were one of the survivors of that? Mr. Bartuck: Yes, I was on the Langley. Mr. Pratt: What was your position on the Langley at that time? Mr. Bartuck: Whenever we were bit by fire, I had a bunch of men that was supposed to put it out. Mr. Pratt: Fire control, is that what you called it, fire control? Mr. Bartuck: No, ther&s another name for it. But that’s what I did. Before I was on the guns but the warrant bosun put me on that job, so that’s what I had. And my job was also to stream the paravanes, which I did before we got sunk. I streamed the paravanes. You know what a paravane is, don’t you? Mr. Pratt: No, describe that. Mr. Bartuck: A paravane--they put them on both sides and if there were mines, the paravanes would clip them and they’d go off to one side. We had men that shot them. Bartuck - 4 Mr. Pratt: They were a type of defense against the mines? Mr. Bartuck: Yes. Mr. Pratt: After you were on the Mt. Vernon, they shipped you back to the States? Mr. Bartuck:Yes. Mr. Pratt: Did you come into San Francisco? Mr. Bartuck: Yes. Mr. Pratt: Where were you stationed after that? Mr. Bartuck: I went to a destroyer in the East Coast, the USS Lardner. Mr. Pratt: How long were you on the Lardner? Mr. Bartuck: Not very long, about six months. From there I went to a mine sweep. A YMS, as they called it, a wooden mine sweep. Out of Staten Island. Mr. Pratt: How long were you on the mine sweep? Mr. Bartuck: The YMS 9. They had a number, they didn’t have a name, they weren’t very big. What we would do is go out where the shipping lanes were and sweep mines, if there were any. We had a line we’d throw out on the fantail and it was supposed to get the mines and tow them. We had people, as the mines would come up we’d shoot them, just like I said we did with the paravanes. Mr. Pratt: How long were you on the mine sweep? Mr. Bartuck: About six months. Then I went to an AKA and I made the invasion in North Africa. Mr. Pratt: So that would be about 1943? Mr. Bartuck: No, before that. It was the end, it was Christmas of ‘42 when we were in North Africa. That’s how I remember. We had nurses in the next compartment, and these guys would drill a hole and watch, thats what they would do. They had a show every night. So we made the invasion there, and from there I went to the USS Calpins, a light carrier, a CVL they called it. It was in Philadelphia, and I put it in commission, and we went to the West Coast, to the Pacific.
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