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1 82658 00055 4 Deathlok TM & © Marvel Characters, Inc. Vol. 3, No. 141 / August 2016 Editor Associate Editors Jim Amash Design & Layout Christopher Day Consulting Editor John Morrow FCA Editor P.C. Hamerlinck J.T. Go (Assoc. Editor) If you’re viewing a Digital Edition of this publication, Comic Crypt Editor PLEASE READ THIS: Michael T. Gilbert This is copyrighted material, NOT intended Editorial Honor Roll for downloading anywhere except our Jerry G. Bails (founder) website or Apps. If you downloaded it from another website or torrent, go ahead and Ronn Foss, Biljo White read it, and if you decide to keep it, DO THE RIGHT THING and buy a legal down- load, or a printed copy. Otherwise, DELETE Proofreaders IT FROM YOUR DEVICE and DO NOT SHARE IT WITH FRIENDS OR POST IT Rob Smentek ANYWHERE. If you enjoy our publications William J. Dowlding enough to download them, please pay for them so we can keep producing ones like Cover Artists this. Our digital editions should ONLY be Rich Buckler downloaded within our Apps and at www.twomorrows.com With Special Thanks to: Heidi Amash Alan Pedro Angosto Bill Johnson Richard J. Arndt Jim Kealy Contents Bob Bailey Robert Kline & Writer/Editorial: History Golden/History Silver...... 2 Alberto Becattini family Larry Bigman Mark Lewis “Just Living My !” ...... 3 Judy Blackman Art Lortie Rich Buckler talks to Richard J. Arndt about his first decade at Warren, DC, & Marvel. Swayze Jim Ludwig Gary Brown Doug Martin Rafael Astarita – Pioneer ...... 35 Robert Brown Harry Matesky Hames Ware & David Saunders on a great Golden Age artist who remembered everything! Bernie & Lucille Raymond Miller Bubnis Bill Mohalley Mr. Monster’s Comic Crypt! Rich Buckler Barry Pearl Fatman, The Lost Issue (Part 1) ...... 51 Nick Caputo Gene Reed Michael T. Gilbert on that strange 1967 comic by & C.C. Beck. Mildred Champlin Randy Sargent Shaun Clancy David Saunders Comic Fandom Archive: Remembering RBCC—With Love. . 57 John Coates Arlen J. Schuler Five fans reminisce about G.B. Love & the Rocket’s Blast-Comicollector. Jon B. Cooke Allen Smith Comic Book Plus Bryan Stroud re: [correspondence, comments, & corrections] ...... 65 (website) Dann Thomas Craig Delich Jim Vadeboncoeur, Jr. FCA [Fawcett Collectors Of America] #200 ...... 69 Diversions of the P.C. Hamerlinck presents a celebration featuring Beck, Swayze, Champlin, & a 1940 Groovy Kind Hames Ware Hollywood party—attended by Captain Marvel himself! (website) Who’s Who of On Our Cover: While Rich Buckler has drawn, at one time or another, just about every major hero John Ellis American Comic for every major company, he probably remains proudest of his creation of “Deathlok,” the who Rocky Fawcett Books 1928-1999 starred in during the last half of the 1970s and has often reappeared since, Shane Foley (website) including in Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. on ABC-TV. It was his suggestion that this recent Stephan Friedt Steven G. Willis painting of Deathlok become the cover of this issue of Alter Ego, and he didn’t have to ask us twice! Janet Gilbert Andy Yanchus [Deathlok TM & © Marvel Characters, Inc.] Grand Comics Mike Zeck Above: This issue, too, we applaud the 200th edition of FCA [Fawcett Collectors of America], 141 Database (website) of which have appeared in this third volume of A/E. And there’s nobody whose art could better Heritage Comics represent FCA than C.C. Beck, artistic co-creator of the original Captain Marvel and the first artist Auctions of the “” series. This 1979 painting of Cap, Cap Jr., and Mary came to us courtesy of Heritage Comics Auctions. [ heroes TM & © DC Comics.] This issue is dedicated to the memory of Alter EgoTM is published 8 times a year by TwoMorrows, 10407 Bedfordtown Drive, Raleigh, NC 27614, USA. Phone: (919) 449-0344. Rafael Astarita & Nat Champlin Roy Thomas, Editor. John Morrow, Publisher. Alter Ego Editorial Offices: 32 Trail, St. Matthews, SC 29135, USA. Fax: (803) 826-6501; e-mail: [email protected]. Send subscription funds to TwoMorrows, NOT to the editorial offices. Eight-issue subscriptions: $73 US Standard, $88 US Expedited, $116 International. All characters are © their respective companies. All material © their creators unless otherwise noted. All editorial matter © Roy Thomas. Alter Ego is a TM of Roy & Dann Thomas. FCA is a TM of P.C. Hamerlinck. Printed in China. ISSN: 1932-6890 FIRST PRINTING. 3 “Just Living My Dream!” RICH BUCKLER On His First Decade As A Interview Conducted & Transcribed by Richard J. Arndt

NTERVIEWER’S NOTE: Rich Buckler IIbegan his comic book career in 1967 with a back-up tale in Gordon #10. After a two-year gap, he began doing short mystery (for color comics) and horror (for black-&-white magazines) stories for DC, Warren, Skywald, and Marvel. He was soon doing regular back- up features in such titles as and ’s Girlfriend, . His first work on a lead feature was The #101 (July 1972) working from a plot by (as edited and later scripted by Roy Thomas). Over the next two decades, he worked on nearly every major character and title at DC or Marvel and drew hundreds of covers for both companies. He has also produced work for Archie’s Red Circle characters. He created the Marvel character Deathlok and penciled the first five issues of DC’s All-Star Squadron with Thomas. In recent years, he launched another career doing stunning surre- alistic paintings. He is the author of How to Draw Dynamic Comic Books and still frequents conventions, often with Don McGregor, with whom he worked on both “The Black Panther” and “” series in the 1970s. This interview was conducted via e-mail on December 19-22, 2014.

Portrait Of The Artist As A Very Busy Young Man A self-portrait of Rich Buckler (being painted by his own hand)—surrounded by examples of his work for three mainstream publishers in the early 1970s (clockwise from above right): Warren Publications’ Creepy #36 (Nov. ’70), script by ... “” in DC’s #434 (April ’73), inks by & script by E. Nelson Bridwell... and the cover of Marvel’s The Avengers #101 (July 1972), inks by . With thanks for the comics-page scans to the Diversions of the Groovy Kind website, Steven G. Willis, & Chris Day, respectively. The portrait, retrieved online, is done in acrylic on a board that measures 13 11/16" x 22¼". [Portrait © Rich Buckler; Creepy page TM & © New Comic Company; “Hawkman” page TM & © DC Comics; Avengers cover TM & © Marvel Characters, Inc.] 4 Rich Buckler On His First Decade As A Comic Book Artist

“Comic Books Actually Saved My Life, before he founded the first Detroit Triple Fair, which was in 1965. I took over the publishing of the fanzine Super-Hero from In A Sense” Mike Tuohey, beginning with #4, while I was still in high school. RICHARD ARNDT: Let’s start this off with some information on your Mike was going off to college, so I took over the journalistic reins background. I know we’re both originally from .... and continued to publish both Super-Hero and my other fanzine, Intrigue, which featured amateur comics creations by me and other RICH BUCKLER: I was born in Detroit, but up to age nine I spent fan artists. Through networking via telephone and the postal my time in a house built by my father and my grandfather. I mean, services, I also contributed art to many other fan publications of they actually built the place from the foundation up. This was in the time. upstate rural Michigan, just off Houghton Lake. The nearest town was Prudenville. When I was ten years old, my family relocated to I was a bit of an overachiever, even at that young age. For the Detroit. So I’m both country- and city-bred—but mostly city. I have very first , I worked on the organizing a younger sister Peggy, and a younger brother Ron. My father committee. My job was art production and doing liaison work with passed away when I was very young, so we were raised by my the comic book professionals. I helped bring in guests like Jim mom. Steranko, Mike Kaluta, , and . At the very beginning, I did all of the convention’s progress reports and RA: What comics were you enthused about when you were a kid? Were program books. I was co-chairman with Robert Brosch for one of there any that made you sit up and take notice? the later Detroit conventions. This was all during the late 1960s. BUCKLER: I started out reading and collecting Superman. That I was also very fortunate to have met . That meeting character, and the creations of animator/filmmaker Ray and the friendship that followed sparked a lot of creativity for me. Harryhausen, sparked my imagination in early youth. Then Batman Professor Bails was sort of the father of the whole organized and League and and eventually all of the DC comics fandom movement. If you could call it a movement. It was comics line. more like a relentless phenomenon, one that no one had any idea would grow to the epic proportions that it has today. Not long afterward, I picked up on Marvel, especially with the and Spider-Man. By that time I was completely Professor Jerry Bails was very much an early mentor for me. He obsessed with comics! By the time I was a teen-ager in Detroit, I thought I was some kind of young genius. I thought he was just was a die-hard comic book , and I bought just about every- being nice. As a matter of fact, it was Jerry who gave me my very thing on a weekly basis. first paid art assignment for one of his publications. Comic books actually saved my life, in a sense. From an early It was also through Jerry that I met Roy Thomas. This was way age, I knew what I wanted to be when I grew up—a full-time back when Roy was an English teacher and was just taking over professional in the comic business. My teen years were magical the publishing of the 1960s version of Alter Ego. Roy was very because I was fortunate to fall in with some very key figures in the supportive of my efforts as an artist even in those early fan days, nascent comic book fandom scene in Detroit. long before he went pro and became ’s assistant. RA: You were very active in the fan scene. How did your involvement in In those early days, I was very actively participating in fan comic fandom come about? publications. I did art and stories for many like Star- Studded, Rocket’s Blast-Comicollector, , Comic BUCKLER: Actually, I was involved in the organizing of comics Crusader, Bombshell, and so many others. fandom in its earliest days. I met when I was a teen-ager,

Detroit Daze (Left:) Rich Buckler (on the left) and Dr. Jerry G. Bails, founder of Alter Ego and, at least to some extent, of organized comics fandom—both entities being launched in spring of 1961. This photo was taken in Detroit circa the mid-’60s. Thanks to Rich Buckler & Richard Arndt. (Right:) Rich at a Detroit Triple Fan Fair. Both Bails and Shel Dorf were involved in getting that early fandom event begun in 1965, only a year after the first true comics convention ever; Buckler got involved a couple of years later. 10 Rich Buckler On His First Decade As A Comic Book Artist

Then, choosing my own words very carefully, I told Dick that my aim was to be a full-time comic book professional. Anything less that that was unacceptable. Then I asked him: “Would it help if I moved to ?” And he said he couldn’t make any guarantees, of course—but yes, that would greatly improve my chances. That’s all I needed to hear. I decided then and there that I had to make the big move. I say “big move,” because it was by no means a small thing. In fact, moving to New York proved to be life- changing! RA: I noticed that you seemed to have an understanding and command of how the human body stands and works at a very early age for an artist. Other young artists of that time period—Barry Windsor-Smith, , —showed a learning curve for a number of years. Not a lot of years, but for a while. You, however, seemed to advance from promising newcomer to a young pro very quickly. Almost overnight, in terms of how your work appeared to comic readers. Did it feel that way to you? BUCKLER: It might have appeared that way. There is always that learning curve. I started out younger than most of my contempo- raries. Back during my school years in Detroit, while other kids were outside playing football or baseball or bike-riding and skate- boarding and chasing girls—and I did my share of that, too—I stayed indoors mostly and I read a lot and worked at developing my drawing skills. I remember hearing a story about that he told when he was asked about that. He started out very young, too. Because of his youth and inexperience he was having trouble getting anybody to take him seriously even as an assistant. One day, it was put to him that he really needed to learn human anatomy. So, according to Frank, he spent the weekend hitting the anatomy books and practicing, and on the following Monday he arrived ready for work and proclaimed: “Okay, now I know anatomy!” Of course, that’s only a story, and maybe in Frank’s case, it’s ’Snow Foolin’! true. But that kind of mastery of the human figure takes a lot Rich did full art on this moody tale from #199 (Feb. 1972). longer for most of us mortals. When I decided to get really serious Script by Lynn Marron. Thanks to Steve G. Willis. [TM & © DC Comics.] about my drawing, at about age thirteen or fourteen, I put in serious hours of practice and study. I took out art reference books and assured him that he would ink my work, so there was nothing from the local library. The only problem was that I was under-age really to worry about. and the books I needed were in the adult category. I had to get my Mom to sign them out for me! So my advantage was that I tackled So, great. I returned to Detroit with my mission accomplished. all of the hard stuff first and at a very young age. Well, sort of. I drew the story on my back porch workplace. I was almost entirely certain then that my comics career was about to I studied and practiced diligently and definitely for more than a take off. So I concentrated on doing my absolute best with that few weekends! For me it was a total obsession! As I mentioned short story, but also drawing it within a normally allotted time. earlier, I am self-taught as an artist. There is also a very serious side Then I mailed in the artwork. I got paid. Then weeks went by to me, so my approach from the start of things was very focused. slowly and nothing happened. No follow-through. Nothing. To this day, my standard is excellence. So my goal back then was to learn all the fundamentals, so that I could apply that to comics Now, I’d gotten lots of “no’s” in my early try-out years, but this illustration and cartooning. I think my edge was that I never was a case of things just left hanging and who knows what will thought of myself as only a . happen. I was always certain that my unwavering persistence and dedication would pay off. I never doubted that for a moment. I “… Was Actually The Only Reason knew I was ready. And I was confident that I had proven that. Well, I just couldn’t stand the suspense anymore, so finally I That I Went to Skywald” decided to follow up and call DC. RA: Mike Friedrich told me that, when Skywald started up as a I got Dick on the phone right away. Very carefully choosing his competitor to , editor and co-publisher Sol Brodsky words, he told me that they were happy with the work but unfor- asked Roy Thomas about writers and artists that Roy could recommend, tunately there were no other assignments forthcoming. That and that Roy was delighted to recommend good artists and writers—who seemed like a bit of a dodge to me. I’m somewhat of a quick study, didn’t work for Marvel. You did a considerable amount of work for the and I could read between the lines, so I figured out right away early Skywald. How did you get so much work so fast? what the problem probably was. BUCKLER: The short answer was Sol Brodsky. I enjoyed working 16 Rich Buckler On His First Decade As A Comic Book Artist

Sample Case Amazingly, Rich still has the two sample pages he first showed to Stan Lee and Roy Thomas, in hopes of getting assignments at Marvel. Hey, guess what? It worked! As it happened, the pages featured Ka-Zar and Black Panther—two characters he would soon be drawing professionally for Marvel. See why Marvel hired ’im? [Ka-Zar & Black Panther TM & © Marvel Characters, Inc.; other art © 2016 Rich Buckler.]

That was my guess for what Vince was expecting, and when I Roussos, and . That was back when there was an actual showed that to him he said: “Now, that’s your style!” Marvel bullpen. And you know what? They all accepted me as one of their own! So I wasn’t exactly competing with those artists “None Of The Other Artists… Wanted To whose work I admired since my youth. It wasn’t like that at all. Work On Team Books” I was more like a professional artist who was still very much a comics fan. That always showed and I never apologized for it. RA: Your first effort at drawing a main title was on The Avengers #101. Also, I’m not really the competitive type. So I didn’t regard those How did you advance from back-ups to a main feature and on such a artists as competition. For me they were colleagues and collabo- major title? You were also following , Neal Adams, and rators. Barry Windsor-Smith on the book. Was it intimidating following those three? My work on Avengers was due to Roy Thomas deciding to move me up to the main titles. None of the other artists back then BUCKLER: Well, Barry Windsor-Smith and I are contemporaries. wanted to work on team books. Those were always assiduously We both started our careers at Marvel at around the same time, so I avoided! Too much work, too many characters, too much of every- wasn’t exactly following Barry. Both Neal Adams and John thing. Well, for me, too much is never enough. I was up to the Buscema were way ahead of me, so yeah, that was a bit challenge, and Roy knew it. challenging. Not intimidating, though, not really. Avengers #101 was titled “Five Dooms to Save Tomorrow!” and At both Marvel and DC, early on, I made friends fast. I was adapted from a Harlan Ellison story. The inking was by Dan managed to get to know many of the artists from the generation Adkins. I remember it well. I was Roy’s first choice for penciler on before me—all of whom I admired and respected. I didn’t actually that assignment. Roy and I are both big science-fiction fans, and meet John Buscema or [who inked most of that Avengers both of us were huge fans of Harlan Ellison. So it was a good fit, run] until years later. But I did seem to fit right in, at both Marvel and this was Roy giving me my first big break and trying me out and DC. on a main title. For instance, at Marvel I immediately got along well with Frank It’s interesting that, in my trade book How to Draw Dynamic Giacoia, , , Vince Colletta, George Comic Books, Stan Lee boasted in his introduction that he was from “Just Living My Dream!” 17

Two Dooms To Save TwoMorrows! (Left:) The splash page of Buckler’s first major —The Avengers #101 (July 1972), inked by Dan Adkins. He and scripter Roy Thomas adapted a synopsis that science-fiction writer Harlan Ellison had submitted years before to —as a “Hawkman” tale. For the story behind this issue, including Ellison’s full plot, see Alter Ego #31, still available from TwoMorrows. (Right:) Buckler and teamed up to pencil Avengers #106 (Dec. ’72), which was then inked by . Script by . [TM & © Marvel Characters, Inc.] SPECIAL NOTE: Barry Pearl, besides supplying virtually all of the Marvel art that accompanies this interview, Roy Thomas went above and beyond by reading the Buckler interview in advance (as did Bob Bailey) and picking out art Steve Englehart Pic from the 1975 that especially fit this section. Roy, who was still valiantly attempting to finish his big book on Stan Lee for was interviewed in Mighty Marvel Comic Taschen Publishing (out this fall!), needed all the help he could get this issue, and appreciated the lengths depth in Alter Ego Convention program to which Barry (and Bob, re DC mags) went to help out! #103. Thanks to John book. Morrow.

the beginning one of my biggest fans and boosters. Well, Stan did Avengers. To be honest, I was more than happy working with Don give me my first assignment at Marvel, and he was supportive. McGregor and drawing “The Black Panther” for Jungle Action, But, you know, that was typical Stan Lee hyperbole, and it was which was going on at the same time, or maybe just before or after. probably not literally true. Because, as I recall, it was mainly Roy So I didn’t want to give up drawing “The Black Panther,” either! Thomas who gave me all my big breaks [at Marvel]! I just can’t say But there was only so much that one artist could do and keep up enough good things about that guy! with deadlines, too. It was like that at DC, too, with Dick Giordano and . Like I said, my work on Avengers was due to Roy Thomas Both of those artist-editors were very supportive of my work. At moving me up to bigger things. So I had to leave the Avengers book times, we were almost like family. in order to switch to the Fantastic Four—and boy, was I happy about that! RA: You only did four or five issues of The Avengers before leaving the title (except for doing the covers). Was there any particular reason for I got to do whatever I wanted on my run on Fantastic Four. And this? what I wanted was, in my own way, to bring back some of the storytelling dynamics and excitement of all those BUCKLER: I was working eight- to twelve-hour days back then, masterpieces that I grew up on! It was a shameless fanboy send- seven days a week. Just living my dream! I was happy drawing The up—I admit it. But I had a great time doing it. “Just Living My Dream!” 27

What I really wanted was a new sci-fi action/adventure character that really rocked—one that would not be derivative of anything Marvel was already publishing. My character had drastic differences from the Bionic Man, and I was certain that I could do this as a Marvel series and do it much better than the popular series—which I found disappointing. So I waited patiently to Ernie Chan see how that would play out, and only a few was drawing at that months later Marvel lost that license to time under the name Charlton. “Ernie Chua.” I remember when I first heard that : I met Roy in the hallway at the Marvel offices one day and he stopped me and said: “Rich. Good news. Charlton is doing The Six Million Dollar Man, so that means your project is a go.” I was thrilled. “Only one thing, though,” Roy continued. “The only publishing slot we have open is Astonishing Tales, which is a bi-monthly. So it won’t be a number one, but we could start on it right away. What do you think?” What did I think? I said yes! Didn’t hesitate even for a moment! I was told that I needed to work up a quick formal presentation.

No Wonder They Call It “The Forgotten City”! Rich probably provided just layouts for the 15-page lead story in Marvel’s Conan the Barbarian #40 (July 1974)—but between them, he and Ernie Chan/Chua well evoked a time-lost city in a yarn guest-plotted by fantasy author Michael Resnick for scripter/editor Roy Thomas. Thanks to Barry Pearl. [TM & © Conan Properties International, LLC.] approached Roy Thomas with the idea of doing it as a comic for Marvel. Marvel was bidding on the license for The Six Million Dollar Man then, and Roy told me he liked my concept but we would have to wait and see, because if Marvel got those publishing rights, then they were definitely going with that franchise. I wasn’t interested in starting a franchise, nor was I designing a character that could be merchan- Astonishing Males dized as a toy or a video game or the like. My first The cover and splash page of Astonishing Tales #26 (Oct. 1974). Buckler love is comics. I just wanted did full-art chores on the former, while Pablo Marcos inked the latter. The story was co-plotted and scripted by . Thanks once again to to tell my character’s story. the GCD and Barry Pearl. [TM & © Marvel Characters, Inc.] 35 RAFAEL ASTARITA Comic Book Pioneer Two Easy Pieces On “One Of The Best Comic Book Artists Who Ever Drew” Rafael Astarita Photo courtesy of Hames Ware, EDITOR’S INTRODUCTION: Comic book or with thanks to David Saunders. AA/ / EE artists often have a champion who make it his/her business to make certain that that artist is not forgotten, and that his/her accom- comic book professionals up through the year plishments are noted and documented for 1999. He probably knows more than any man posterity. Comics and pulp artist Rafael alive about the comics shops/studios from the Astarita (1912-1994) is fortunate in having early days of comic books… and part of what he two such , who have pooled their knows first came from artist Rafael Astarita. resources in the following pair of entries. David Saunders (born 1954 in New York Hames Ware, no to readers of this City) came to his interest in the history of pulp magazines and their artists as a matter of magazine, was originally a voice actor. In the David Saunders early 1970s he was the co-editor (with Dr. Jerry birthright: his father was , a G. Bails) of the four volumes of the print edition major pulp-mag cover artist. David is, in fact, of the Who’s Who of American Comic an artist himself, and has taught at various art schools. His website Books, forerunner of the current online website www.pulpartists.com contains a wealth of information on numerous which lists data connected to the careers of Hames Ware classic American illustrators, and on the history of the pulps.

I. An Interview With HAMES WARE – Conducted by DAVID SAUNDERS

DAVID SAUNDERS: Why is Rafael Astarita important? HAMES WARE: He is important because he was one of the best comic book artists who ever drew. He was a part of the beginning of comics. His first work appears in 1935 in Major Malcolm Wheeler-Nicholson’s titles [forerunners of DC Comics]. He was already drawing in a way that was superior to most of the other work that appeared in those comic books. Generally, the subjects of the comics that he drew were classic legends or fables of historical adventures, which the average cartoonist at that time was not really able to handle, and yet as early as 1935 and 1936 he was already drawing things like “King Arthur” and “Allan de Beaufort.”

I Don’t Want To Leave The Jungle… (Left:) Astarita’s Kaänga cover for ’s Jungle Comics #47 (Nov. 1943). From the Comic Book Plus website of public domain comics, the ultimate of several other scans accompanying these pieces, as well. (Right:) Later, for Fiction House’s Jungle Stories (Feb. 1947), he drew this illustration for the “Ki-Gor” lead story; scan courtesy of David Saunders. Both writers unknown. A Ki-Gor by any other name would be Kaänga! [© the respective copyright holders.] Rafael Astarita—Comic Book Pioneer 37

A Hero Sandwich (Left:) By the time Astarita inherited the strip that had begun life as ’s “The Hawk of the Seas,” the feature’s name had long since been shortened to “The Hawk.” But “Willis Rensie” remained as the house name (“Eisner” spelled backward, of course), though the actual writer is unknown. Thanks to David Saunders. From Fiction House’s Jumbo Comics #47 (Jan. 1943). [© the respective copyright holders.] (Right:) Although Astarita drew few super-hero stories, he reportedly did this one for Quality’s Doll Man #10 (Autumn 1946). Scripter unknown. Thanks to Jim Ludwig. [Doll Man is a trademark of DC Comics.]

WARE: The reason I mentioned Will Eisner and Lou Fine is Italian art. His work stood out from other artists’ because he drew because Astarita took over “The Hawk of the Seas” after it was in the style of an illustrator rather a cartoonist. started by Eisner and after Fine had taken it over, so to be desig- nated the person to follow Eisner and Fine was a high honor. That DS: So he never had his own famous comic book character? shows how he was respected by the top artists in his field. He was WARE: No, and that is part of the reason why he is not better a pioneer in the shops, both with Harry Chesler from about 1936 to known. He did not work in the super-hero genre enough to be 1939, and from about 1939 till the war he was with the Eisner/Iger known for that, so he is rarely listed among the better-known shop. Anyone who was in any of those shops always mentioned comic book artists. He did not draw in a style that fit that genre, him as one of the top artists. nor was he interested in it. For instance “The Hawk of the Seas” Another artist once recalled Astarita telling him you could does have a hero, but he is not like Superman or Batman. He is actually draw with a matchstick, and the man didn’t believe him, more like the adventure hero from Rafael Sabatini’s novel The Sea so Astarita lit a match and blew it out and proceeded to draw Hawk. something with the matchstick! He was appreciated and admired DS: Why is it important to document the life and art of Rafael Astarita? by the artists in all the shops where he worked, but he worked independently and he was not a self-promoter. He did not socialize WARE: Well, because of his unique and dynamic style of illus- with other artists in the after-hours. He was already married. trated drawing. He hit the ground running in 1935 and worked until World War II; then, after the war, he came back and worked DS: What do comic book fans think of when they hear the name Rafael until the mid-’50s. He was consistently good, so all of his work was Astarita? rendered in a polished and finished way. His work always stands WARE: Unlike most artists that worked in comic books, he was not out, because he put his best effort into everything he did. a cartoonist. I would describe him as a dynamic illustrator. His DS: Can you list some of the comic features he drew? original goal was to illustrate classic adventure literature. I suppose, with his ancestry, he was carrying on the tradition of WARE: He drew the features “Round Table Adventures,” “Daniel 51

(Below:) Alan Hutchinson’s cover to Gary Brown’s original article in CPA-alpha #325 and Southern Fandom Press Alliance #163, both from Oct. 1991. [©1991 Gary Brown and Alan Hutchinson; Fatman TM & © Milson.]

[ art © Milson or successors in interest.] 52 Mr. Monster’s Comic Crypt!

hoped to cash in on the “camp” craze. had already Fatman, The Lost Issue tapped to create a new “Thriller” line of comics. Tower had their T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents, and even Archie had launched (Part 1) their Mighty Comics line, scripted by Superman co-creator Jerry by Michael T. Gilbert Siegel. Everyone hoped their hero would be the next Batman. With all that activity going on, it’s no surprise that newcomer SSometimes you can get too much of a good thing. Case in Milson Publications decided to throw its cape into the ring. point: Fatman, the Human Flying Saucer! Fawcett scholar P.C. Hamerlinck recently shared some background On paper, it must have seemed a stroke of genius. By 1967, on the company’s origins: Batmania was in full swing, and every comic publisher “Will Lieberson was the editor of the first couple of issues,

Fatman To The Rescue! We see not only Fatman in action, but three Milson staff members, too… sort of! From Fatman #3 (Sept. 1967). [© Milson or successors in interest.] Comic Fandom Archive 57 Alter Ego’s Multi-Part Tribute To G.B. Love & RBCC – Part 5 Remembering RBCC— With LOVE G.B. Love. (1939-2001) Photo by Robert Brown. Five Fans Reminisce About G.B. Love & Contributing To His Classic Fanzine, The Rocket’s Blast-Comicollector

Introduction by Bill Schelly

any, many fans contributed to RBCC in the 1960s and MM1970s. We venture that all of them have stories to share about working with, and knowing, G.B. Love. For this installment of our series, we’ve asked five of them to share some memories of those halcyon days. It’s fitting that we begin with those of Bernie Bubnis, since he contributed a piece to Gordon Love’s very first fanzine, The Rocket’s Blast #1 (Dec. 1961). Bernie is best remembered as the key organizer of the 1964 New York Comicon, as recounted most recently in A/E #137 & 138. We continue with artist Robert Kline, whose covers are among the most memorable to appear on RBCC (and other top fanzines of the era— as well as later in Marvel’s Unknown Worlds of , Savage Sword of Conan, etc.). Next come the reminiscences of Gary Brown, whose “Keyhole” column was one of the ’s most popular features. Gary later found his calling as a newspaper journalist, while continuing his Ibid contributions to CAPA-alpha to the present day. Then, after a brief piece by our FCA editor P.C. Hamerlinck, we close with Larry Bigman’s affectionate recollection of events leading up to G.B. Love’s life-altering move to Houston, Texas, including Love’s first experience with plane travel. BERNIE BUBNIS

The need to share my comic book fascination was so strong that I eagerly responded to Gordon’s letter in #72 (Dec. 1961). Along with my dues to the SFCA [South Florida Comics Association], I sent a 226- word short story titled “I Adkins Diet Loved Her,” When Bernie’s G.B.-rejected story “I Loved Her” appeared in Yandro #118 about short- (Nov. 1962), it was accompanied by an illustration by Dan Adkins. circuiting my [© Estate of Dan Adkins.] robot girlfriend. He old geek just sitting in my room with a few hundred comic books. told me it was I’ve got nothing else to do. I’ll write another story with only 80 too long and words. The “Dividing Line,” about a visitor from the fifth could I dimension, saw print in The Rocket’s Blast #1. “I Loved Her” Then and Now shorten it? appeared in Yandro #118 (Nov. 1962), a sci-fi fanzine, accompanied Hey, Gordon, by an illustration by Dan Adkins. Thank you, Gordon. Bernie Bubnis, then (c. 1964) and, more or less, now (okay, I’m a 13-year- 2014), photographed by his wife Lucille. 58 Comic Fandom Archive

In RB #3 or 4, G.B. requested ideas on how to increase the size of the newsletter. I used my spirit duplicator to run off about 25 copies of a piece about the original Golden Age . That appeared in #6. I contributed an art-only ditto page (a Kirby tribute) for #8. These were just stapled into the Love-produced pages. So began our postal affair. He never requested any specific type of art or article. As I met and interviewed pros, I would type up an account of it and send it in. It was such a laid-back relationship that I was shocked when Gordon wrote me a very angry letter. Oh, oh, what did I screw up now? I interviewed Jack Kirby and that article appeared in Comicollector. Gordon was disappointed it was not submitted to the Rocket’s Blast. He even referred to me as a member of his “staff” and was disap- pointed that I had forgotten my loyalties. Who knew? That incident was really the only real interaction I ever had with Gordon Love. I was proud to think I was part of his “staff.” Hence, the bulk of my fan work was published in Rocket’s Blast. I renewed my loyalty and remain a member of the SFCA to this very day.

Fighting Captain American (Above:) Bernie Bubnis’ ditto insert, a tribute to Jack Kirby (but copying a 1954 Romita ), appeared in The Rocket’s Blast #8 (July 1962). Along with Rick Weingroff, Bernie was a frequent contributor to the early issues of Gordon Love’s fanzine, when it morphed from a newsletter into a general fanzine. [Captain America TM & © Marvel Characters, Inc.; TM & © Estates of Joe Simon & Jack Kirby.]

Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Captain Marvel! (Left & above:) By the time The Rocket’s Blast had reached #19 (June 1963) and #20 (July 1963), it was printed in the “friendlier” ditto process, and becoming known as a competitor to The Comicollector because its regular monthly schedule made it an ideal and timely vehicle for fans’ advertisements of comics for sale, et al. Art by Buddy Saunders and Howard Keltner, respectively. [Miss Liberty, Billy Batson, & Shazam hero TM & © DC Comics.]

70 The Mystery Behind The Previously Unseen Version Of C.C. Beck’s Captain #2 Cover by P.C. Hamerlinck

A Comic Book Hit (Counter-clockwise from above left:) Captain Marvel Adventures #2 (Summer 1941) original cover art; note that the CM head is a paste-up. The published cover. A photocopy of the original art after the paste-up was removed by Harry Matesky, revealing Beck’s partially-finished first version of CM’s head— accompanied by Mark Lewis’ blue pencils to CM’s during the restoration process. [Shazam hero TM & © DC Comics.] 72 Hometown Hero A Vintage 1945 Newspaper Article On Golden Age Great MARC SWAYZE by P.C. Hamerlinck

DITOR’S INTRODUCTION: No FCA anniversary issue would be EEcomplete without the presence of Marc Swayze. Marc, an important part of our family here at FCA/Alter Ego/TwoMorrows, passed away on October 14, 2012, at the age of 99. His continuous narrative, “We Didn’t Know… It was the Golden Age!” graced hundreds of our pages for years, and his colloquial yet illuminating memoirs were unprecedented amongst his Golden Age artist peers. In case you didn’t previously get to know him in our magazine: Marcus D. Swayze was one of the top artists for from 1941-53. The first sketches emerged from Marc’s drawing table, and he illustrated her earliest tales; but Marc was originally hired by Fawcett to draw “Captain Marvel” stories and covers for and Captain Marvel Adventures. He also wrote several “Captain Marvel” scripts while in the military. After his discharge from the Army in 1944, he made an arrangement with Fawcett to produce art and stories for them on a freelance basis out of his home in Monroe, Louisiana. There he worked on “The Eagle” featured in , in addition to drawing the Flyin’ Jenny newspaper strip, originally created by his mentor, Russell Keaton, for Bell Syndicate. After the cancellation of Wow in 1948, Swayze produced artwork for Fawcett’s successful line of . After the company ceased publishing comics, and after a brief stint with Charlton Publications in the mid-’50s, Marc left comics for corporate work. His first “We Didn’t Know …” column appeared in FCA #54 (1996). Now, here’s an opportunity to get to know Marc even more as we present this rare 1945 article showcasing “Monroe’s Comic Creator” from his hometown newspaper, the long-defunct Monroe Morning World. —PCH.

Through A Glass, Darkly The front page of the Monroe (Louisiana) Morning World from 1945 Schoolboy Hobby featuring hometown hero Marc Swayze—referred to throughout as “M.D. Swayze” by the author of the article. Unfortunately, the photo is of poor quality, having been shot through a glass frame. If you Becomes Career can see it, on Marc’s home studio drawing table is a Flyin’ Jenny original Sunday page he was working on, along with an issue of Wow Comics (#37, July ’45) featuring one of his “” For Local Artist stories. Seen on the wall behind him is C.C. Beck’s going-away- from-Fawcett gift to him, the original cover art to Whiz Comics #19… and a portrait Marc drew of Mickey Malone, aka “ M.D. Swayze Draws Well Known Comics Eagle.” Special thanks to Judy Blackman Swayze. Flyin’ Jenny, Phantom Eagle by Paul Martin small studio at his home, 2007 South Grand Street, where he lives lmost all boys—and girls, too—have at some time in their with his father and two sisters, May and Daisy, who take a keen AA lives tried their hand at cartoons or other drawing interest and pride in the work of their son and brother. endeavors, but very few have had their schoolboy hobbies develop into careers. One of the few is Monroe’s own “Flyin’ Jenny” is a beauteous blonde aviatress whose love for M.D. Swayze, descendant of one of the South’s oldest families, the airways leads her from one adventure to another, and current who is turning out the well-known comic strip Flyin’ Jenny, which daily strips find her involved in an interesting experience with two appears daily and Sunday in newspapers from Alaska to Mexico convalescing GIs who are treasure-hunting for Nazi loot. Her and coast to coast. adventures are timely with her new thrills, after activities in which she recently was testing propulsion planes, having a decided Swayze was born and reared here and turns out his work in a postwar theme. Hometown Hero 73

It’s a full-time job, but he keeps his work several weeks ahead of publication dates and mails his drawings to Bell Syndicate each weekend. The syndicate handles distribution to subscribing papers. Often scenes in his drawings are from actual buildings and places right here in Monroe, and in a recent Flyin’ Jenny daily strip there was a drawing of Conway Memorial Hospital. The scene called for a hospital building in the background, so Swayze drove to the institution a short distance south of his home and sketched the Monroe building. Because his drawings of airships are so up to date and true to actual designs, Swayze is considered something of an authority on planes. Manufacturers of such ships keep him supplied with pictures of new planes and designs they are turning out, and frequently he finds an occasion for sketching the new craft into his strips, much to the pleasure of the plane designers. But Swayze frankly admits he’s not the airship authority some think him to be. “I’ve been up in a plane only three times in my life,” he said. “The first time I was curious. The second time I was indifferent. And the third time This Is A Job For—Well, Maybe Not Captain Marvel I was just bored.” In his final year, Marc Swayze identified for me that he illustrated “Captain Marvel and the Job He Couldn’t Do!” from Captain Marvel Adventures #13 (July 1942)—but Marc could sure do the job! Educated in the city schools of Monroe, young Scripter unknown. [Shazam hero TM & © DC Comics.] Swayze found his teachers encouraging, and Miss Louise Moore, art instructor for the city school system, gave him special attention as a student at But Jenny is not Swayze’s only endeavor. He is also drawing Neville High School from which he graduated. He was art editor of “The Phantom Eagle” for Wow Comics, a monthly magazine publi- the Neville yearbook during his senior year. Then he attended cation, and prior to turning his efforts to Flyin’ Jenny he was a staff Northeast artist for Fawcett Publications, New York, drawing and writing the Junior College well-known comic character, “Captain Marvel.” of I.S.U., where Swayze’s partner in creating the Flyin’ Jenny strips, which is also he was art published in two foreign languages, Spanish and French, is Glenn editor of the Chaffin, one of the originators of Tailspin Tommy. Chaffin, whose college home is in Corvallis, , prepares the script and plot, then yearbook. He is Swayze draws it up. Swayze’s sister Daisy assists in the inking and also a graduate lettering. of Louisiana Tech, where art But she has only been able to lend her aid since the artist’s was his return here from New York, where he was for some time doing principal study. illustrations and commercial art for magazines before taking to the fruitful comic field. The Swayze family is one of The war interrupted Swayze’s work for a while and he served a the oldest in the year and a half with the Army before being South, the first honorably discharged about a year ago. He has since been elected Swayzes first vice commander of the L.B. Faulk Post No. 13, American settling in this Legion, here. country near Natchez, With his Army discharge the young artist returned to New York Mississippi, in briefly before heading home with the Flyin’ Jenny and “Phantom 1772, when this Eagle” assignments. For the past year, Swayze has been drawing part of the the Sunday page, but recently he took over the daily strip as well country was and now has full charge of the artwork, daily and Sunday. under South “New York is all right for those who like it,” Swayze declared. rule. The family “But I am all Southerner, and I took to the comic field as a means has spread out Bound For The Big City! of being able to come home.” over Marc Swayze, right before heading to for the first time to meet… Captain Marvel! 76 A Farewell To Binder Shop Artist NAT CHAMPLIN (July 14, 1919–March 16, 2015) by P.C. Hamerlinck

athaniel Lewis Champlin was one of the Pratt Institute his Pratt education with what he Nat Champlin Nartists who worked at the comic book page-producing Jack earned at Binder’s. N Seen in his Pratt Institute yearbook Binder shop/barn in Englewood, New Jersey, in 1941 and photo from 1941. Nat would soon see early 1942, prior to his entering the military during World War II. Drafted into the Army on many of his schoolmates working My interview with Nat appeared in Alter Ego #3 (Winter 2000). August 1942, Nat was deployed over at Jack Binder’s shop. Thanks to overseas in October 1943, fought Shaun Clancy. Within the shop’s assembly-line process, Nat’s work was in battles up the boot of Italy to piecemeal; he recalled working on such Fawcett comic series as Cassino, and participated in the “Ibis the Invincible,” “Golden ,” and others… sometimes Anzio Invasion on January 22, 1944—the latter being where he doing a layout rough, or inking backgrounds and secondary lived in a hole he had dug into the ground during the cold of figures. He also had a hand in pages for “The Black ” (Prize winter, hoisting a platform inside of it for his sleeping bag. He was Publications) and “” and “Blackstone” (Street & Smith). honorably discharged on October 26, 1944. In our interview, he enlightened readers by detailing which artists did what at Binder’s. Nat was also part of the lunchtime baseball After the war he freelanced photography, illustrated school- games the artists would play against the Fawcett staff and others. books, and, as a returning student at Pratt, showcased an Most of the artists knew each other from Pratt, even before going acclaimed exhibit of his war art at the institute. His final comic to work at Binder’s. Nat got to know the best, book work was a 4-page filler for Stan Lee at in as the two artists had adjoining rooms in a rental home just a few 1945 called “Sir Gnat, the Dragon Slayer.” blocks from Binder’s shop. Nat was able to finance a good part of In 1946 Nat became assistant professor of fine and applied art at Miami University, Oxford, Ohio, and, upon learning he had to obtain a master’s degree to continue his professorship, enrolled at Teacher’s College in 1948 under the GI Bill of Rights. After earning the master’s degree, he went on to earn his doctorate in education in 1952. After graduation, he taught individual courses in the New York area: Brooklyn College, New York University, and Hunter College. He was visiting professor in the summer of 1953 at Iowa State University and had a summer appointment many years later at Indiana University. In 1954 Nat was offered a position as assistant professor of history and philosophy of education in the College of Education at Wayne State University in Detroit. In addition, he taught in the theoretical sequence and was chairman of the theoretical staff at Cranbrook Academy in Bloomfield Hills, MI, from 1955-65. Nat married Mildred Kautto in 1957 and they had two girls and a boy. Nat’s writing appeared in many professional journals, as well as in the New York Times and The Saturday Review. He was a consultant to the Bureau of Research, U.S. Department of Education. Upon his retirement in 1982, the Michigan State Senate issued a concurrent resolution of appreciation for Professor Emeritus Champlin’s contributions to education in the state. Ibis In The Morning The Champlins stayed active over the years and were avid Nat Champlin identified that he inked the secondary figures and backgrounds on this particular Binder Shop-produced “Ibis the Invincible” runners. The month before he turned 80, Nat ran a 10-mile race, tale from Whiz Comics #24 (Nov. 1941), wherein the Nazis seize control of the winning first place in his age group. Another one of his hobbies mystical “Ibistick”… only to suffer the consequences! [Ibis the Invincible TM was digging and diving for antique bottles, and he illustrated & © DC Comics.]  FFawcett’awcett’s 1940 Hollywoodywood Partyartyy—— With CCaCaptaiaptain Marvel! BY00# (AMERLINCK

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