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Jet Black Records Presents: FR EE ! Tunhofficeial Official Guide to Treefort 2019 THE LIFE AND TIMES OF JAMES PLANE WRECK The ultimate in-depth interview so shocking that it couldn't be published. Until NOW! Rock ing T reeF ort o D n $0 Plus ay a Only Smucks We Interview pay! Here's how Tips we get away nch Fre scott free. The A Conversation with The french Tips Fresh off the release of their debut album, “It’s the Tips”, the French Tips are readying themselves for this year’s Treefort Festival. If you haven’t heard the record yet, get your ass in gear and buy a copy already. It’s one of the strongest releases by a Boise band in years. As busy as they are, the group very graciously invited me out to their rehearsal space a couple weeks ago to give me the skinny on their origins, their album, and whatever the hell else came up in conversation. For the record, The French Tips are Ivy Merrell (guitar, bass, and vocals), Angela Heileson (drums and vocals), and Rachel Couch (bass, guitar and vocals). I began by asking them how they came together. “Well,” explains Ivy, “we were all playing in other bands. And I think we played a show together--you guys were in Desert Graves, and I was in Get Wet +. And I think we played a show together and we just…[a bit of laughter from her bandmates] enjoyed each other’s company? And how long ago was this? “Two or three years ago. There was a local show called Inaugurate Resistance, where there were a bunch of bands that were playing covers, 2 and I was helping organize it. And I really wanted Desert Graves to play, and somehow when we were talking about it, we decided that, instead, the three of us would play some songs together. And we just really enjoyed that, and decided to keep playing and writing and--” So, wait, you started off rehearsing strictly covers for this show? I ask, amused. What exactly did you play--just out of curiosity? “A Bush Tetras song called ‘Too Many Creeps’, and a Le Tigre song called ‘Hot Topic’.” “I really liked those covers,” Rachel adds. “And we did ‘em for a couple other shows, then Ivy cut it. [laughter from Ivy and Angela] She’s like, ‘No more...doin’ that.’” (I made a point of finding these original tunes online, and I’m glad I did. Frankly, these two songs are a perfect little dive into the aesthetic of The French Tips. The Tetras song has a certain hyperactive attack, and of course Tigre has a pop sensibility with a real ‘fuck-you’ edge. I can see why everything began with this.) Angela jumps in, here. “I think we knew that we were, like, ‘We should probably just write original stuff.’ We just seemed to get along really well, and, I dunno, it just made sense. All of us kinda have different backgrounds, and styles of music, and what we grew up with. That kinda comes through in our music, especially because we all sing. [Indicating the other members] They’ll sing very differently.” Ivy grins and admits, “Also, we liked the name enough that we couldn’t just let it go: The French Tips?” “It’s funny because, usually a name is negotiated for awhile before it’s decided upon,” Rachel says. Or you play under two or three names until one sticks, right? “Yes!” Rachel agrees, clearly enthused. “I remember Ivy came up to both of us and was just, ‘You know, we should start a project called The French Tips.’ And it was just one of those names where both of us were like, ‘Okay.’” 3 Ivy continues, “That show we learned two covers and that was in January ‘17, and then it really wasn’t until later that year, kinda more around the summer, that we started writing songs together.” “I think,” Rachel says, thinking back, “we went our separate ways for a few months...and then got back together, and said, ‘You know, we should really do this.’” Angela goes on. “What’s funny is, we’re all women, and--at least for me--part of the thing was like, ‘I don’t have to play with some fucking dudes!” And that’s rare in Boise. Most female musicians I know are almost always playing in a band full of “dudes”. Has that been your experience? I ask. Nods all around. “And there’s something really special about this,” Angela explains, “because the way that we get along and can communicate with each other is so different than all of these other bands we’ve been in. You know, nothing against dudes, but sometimes it’s just like...there’s just a big difference, and it been a lot--easier?--to communicate with each other. Because I think we know how to do that. It’s really nice.” Ivy picks up the origin story again. “I think we played our first real show in October of 2017, and we played Treefort in March [2018], and by then, I was like five months pregnant. And so we decided to record the songs we had at that point. The timing of me having a baby really helped dictate that we were gonna get that recorded, and spend the time focusing on that. You know, putting that record out.” I ask about the recording process, and Ivy explains, “We’d only really played like three or four shows at that point. To be honest, it made me feel a little nervous recording them that soon, but we liked the songs, and that’s what we wanted to do as a group. There was a hot minute where we talked about recording them ourselves, but then we decided that wasn’t what we wanted to spend our time and energy doing. And so, I had recorded with Zach [producer at Z.V. House, aka Rabbitbrush Audio] three or four times prior, and I knew that he was awesome, and super confident, fun to work with. He really ‘gets’-- at least all the bands I’ve worked with, he super ‘vibes’ with. And so we recorded with him, and I think that was a great decision.” 4 And so none of these songs were demoed in advance, they were just fleshed out in rehearsals and live shows? “Mm hmm,” she confirms. As to the writing process, I ask if individuals bring in fully-formed songs, or if it’s a wholly democratic process. “It’s very collaborative,” Ivy insists. Rachel seconds this. “I think it is, too. There have been a couple of occasions where one of us will bring in an idea from somewhere else, but for the most part, it’s kind of… I don’t know! I would almost describe it as ‘magical’!” Her bandmates laugh a bit at this thought. “When we get together, the parts seem to just come together.” “Also, because we all sing, even if someone else writes the bulk of the progressions, then someone else is coming in and at least writing vocals and vocal melodies,” Ivy says. And are the lyrics generally written by whichever member is singing? They nod. I press them about whether egos ever get in the way of the writing, and we joke a bit about that problem being more of a ‘guy band’ thing. Rachel laughs and says, “My favorite one is ‘he-peating’, which has happened to me quite a bit!” Can you define that for us? “It happens when you state an idea, and then somebody else has to rephrase the idea--” “--And then gets the credit!” Ivy interrupts, smiling. “--as though it was their own,” Rachel says. “And then you’re like, ‘That’s exactly what I said!’” This prompts some very un-selfconscious, and very knowing, laughter from all three. So there’s no butting heads, or territoriality, while working out the songs? Angela thinks for a moment and answers, “I think we talk through it.” “Yeah, we’re flexible,” Rachel concurs. 5 As if dissatisfied with her original thought, Angela continues, “I don’t know, uh... There’s no egos! I think right up front [we decided], ‘If you don’t like something, don’t just sit there.’” So everyone has veto power? Again, they nod unanimously. But a thought occurs to Angela. “In the very beginning, some of the first things we were writing, were a little too punk for my taste…” “Ohhh, yeah. I remember that,” Ivy says in a kind of aww-shucks way. Angela goes on: “...and I thought, ‘I just can’t handle it,’ and I was just like, ‘I, uh, don’t like any of this!’ [lots of laughter from bandmates] So then we kind of got together and asked, ‘What are some things we like? What kind of bands do you like? What kind of styles?’” What are your plans for Treefort? Don’t you have two shows? “I think one ‘official,’ and one ‘unofficial.’” Ivy tells me. “Yeah, I think we’re doing the Camp Modern, a little set there, Saturday afternoon. I don’t know the exact time, I think it’s like 3? And then Neurolux Sunday night.” And the set-list? Is it strictly the songs on the record? “It is pretty much established, just playing the album. I mean,” and here Ivy laughs a bit nervously, and explains, “we’ve written one more song since then, but...we started writing songs a year and a half ago, and in that time I had a kid, we recorded a record, we put a lot of work into putting that record out-- pressing it to vinyl, we screen-printed it ourselves…” The album cover is fantastic, so I press them on the process of printing it themselves.