Volume XLVII, Issue 1

Edsel Owners Club Inc. January 2015 T HE B IG E In Remembrance of Roger Hill

INSIDE THIS ISSUE: Roger Hill 1 Remembrance President’s 2 Letter By Dave Sinclair: Roger Hill 3 I first "met" Roger by mail and telephone in mid 1968 as the worldwide publicity machine Remembrance brought the out of the dark shadows of infamy. We received many letters from folks (continued) around the U.S., Canada and the world, who were interested in the Edsel, some wanting to start local chapters of the Edsel Owners Club. One of these letters came from Roger Hill Note from Editor 4 of Arvonia, VA.

Members’ 4 Roger Hill had recently graduated from college and was managing his father's construc- tion business in Arvonia. He was looking to own an Edsel, and placed several "Wanted" Feature ads in the Washington Post. This netted several responses, and in a short time Roger found 2015 Laughlin 5 himself the owner of a Pacer 2-door HT, a Citation and a 1960 convertible. Nevada Edsel Roger and I continued to correspond by mail and phone, and we met for the first time in Event registration August 1969, at the first annual EOC convention in Indianapolis. He drove his two-toned green Pacer 2-door HT to the meet. Roger wasn’t able to attend the 1970 annual conven- 6 Comparison of tion in Ontario, CA as he was engaged to be married, but came to Kansas City in 1971 for Paint Codes the 3rd EOC meet, this time with his wife Marie, and driving a '60 2-door HT. Roger's between Edsel Edsel collection continued to grow, and he added a 17K mile '60 with B interior, a and Ford tri tone Pacer 4-door HT (pictured above at the 2010 EOC national meet in Salem, Massa- chusetts) and several other . Roger continued to attend all other EOC conventions, Calendar of 7 never missing another meet until last year in Dayton. Events and welcome new In 1973, Roger Hill was elected as President of the EOC and he served from 1973 to 1978. members He was chosen again as President in 2000, to serve in this capacity until 2004. Green Line Edsel 8-9 Roger's love of travel was immense, and he always looked forward to his next adventure. Action Ads Our Edsel meet travels always meant we'd get to visit for a few days at the meet, as well as visiting each other back and forth across the country, riding in each other’s Edsel, going About The Edsel 10 to a convention, or meeting up in airports and driving a rental together to the meet. Owners Club Continued on Page 3 The Big E Page 2

Hello, Edsel Folks,

Hibernation is boring! Although this has been an easier winter than last year (so far, anyway), I'm getting the itch to get some things done on the Edsel. Truly, the car show season isn't that far away.

Larry Nopper, past president of The Southlanders Edsel Club, has offered to represent the EOC as a member of the board of the Ford Car Club Council, which hosts the biggest all-Ford show on the west coast at Knott’s Berry Farm. This is a big event, and the acceptance that the Edsel has gotten at this show over the years has been gratifying. It will certainly help the Edsel and the EOC to have this representation. Thanks, Larry!

I am amazed by the number of Edsels that are showing up on the internet for sale. A bonus is that many of these cars have serial numbers that have not been recorded by Edsel hobbyists before. The older these cars get, the more we learn about them. Thanks to all who are doing the "detective work" in documenting these previously unknown Edsels!

Examples of Edsels recently spotted in internet ads such as Craigslist, etc.:

Right: A battered 1960 for sale in Chicago:

Left: A 1959 Ranger for sale in Pennsylvania

Right: A Bermuda project car for sale in Urbana, IL

From From President’s the Desk! George

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(EOC President Roger Hill pictured above on the front cover of a 1973 edition Big E newsletter) We looked forward to our visits and never seemed to run out of conversations! Even flying into airports across the country and Canada, we always managed to connect about the same time, and would always enjoy a cocktail before departure or at the hotel after we arrived.

Roger’s car collection continued to grow over the past 15 years. He added full Classic Lincolns: a 1937 Willoughby V-12 model K, a 1948 Continental , a 1956 Premiere 2 door HT and a fine low mile 1957 Continental Mark II. Recently restored to concours condition was a 1955 T Bird he had owned since the late '60s, and had also acquired a 1964 Studebaker Avanti, and most recently, a fine 1932 Pierce-Arrow sedan. He enjoyed taking his cars out on a regular basis, and on dry days drove a 1962 Lincoln Continental 4 dr. convert. to the office. His garage was called the "Gallery" and not only held his cars but a fine collection of signs and memorabilia as well.

Roger was always a true Southern gentleman, and I don't think I've ever heard him say a cross word at anyone, much less a cuss word. He was a friend to all, and he and Marie were always gracious hosts. He enjoyed hosting car club events at their home, and in recent years, had been hosting a local meet with the Classic Thunderbird club. I feel fortunate to be able to call Roger, and Marie, my close friends for 45 years. Our emails and calls in recent years were often daily if we saw something interesting to chat about, whether it was car related or not. He passed away on August 28, 2014 and is survived by his wife of 43 years, Marie, his two brothers, and many nieces, nephews, and friends.

I will miss my good friend. Rest in peace, Roger.

(BELOW LEFT) Roger Hill with his two-toned green Pacer during his very early days in the EOC. (BELOW RIGHT) Long-time friends, Dave Sinclair (left) and Roger Hill (right), stand behind Dave’s Corsair convertible at Dave’s house in Ida- ho while they prepared to travel together to the 2009 National EOC Meet in Keizer, Oregon.

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I wish to welcome Terry Morey, from Columbus, Ohio, into the Edsel Owners Club. Terry has owned and restored many Edsels since 1968, and knows them like the back of his hand. He is both a skilled mechanic and a professional auto-body man. Terry has repaired several motors for me, including the one in my Pacer convertible almost 30 years ago, and I have never had any problems with the Teletouch in that car since then.

Whenever I am stumped or frustrated with a problem with an Edsel, I would talk to Terry about it, and he usually had a solution. Terry is willing to share his wealth of technical knowledge about the Edsel with the members of the Edsel Owners Club and help them keep their Edsels on the road.

Terry suggested we have a technical “Question & Answer” column in this newsletter. If your Edsel has a problem that you, or your mechanic, can’t seem to resolve, or if you have a question on how to fix or repair something in the Edsel, please write to EOC or send an e-mail at [email protected] and Terry will do his best to answer your questions and help you out. Members’ Edsels

Dave Simley of Fargo, North Dakota, has recently completed the restoration of his beautiful green 1960 2-door . He purchased this car in Missouri a few years ago and it was still wearing 1976 plates at the time. The car required a complete restoration and Dave began by replacing the trunk pan and gas tank, as they both were rusted out. He then proceeded to overhaul the engine and transmission. Just last fall, he had the body repainted and the interior reupholstered in the original pattern and fabrics. The Edsel is now back on the road again after almost 40 years. Dave says the car is pretty much completed now and he is having a great time driving the car and taking it to shows. Congratulations, Dave, on a very successful restoration!

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Registration Form

Name:______Guest/Spouse:______Address:______Phone:______City:______State:______Zip:______Email Address:______Car Information: Make: ______Model: ______Year:______

Show Registration 1 X $25.00 $25.00 One (1) Free T-Shirt with registration—Circle size of free T-shirt: S M L XL 2XL 3XL *TO MAKE SURE YOU RECEIVE YOUR FREE T-SHIRT WITH REGISTRATION WE NEED TO RECEIVE YOUR REGISTRATION BY MARCH 2, 2015. AFTER THAT DATE YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE A T-SHIRT.* El Dorado Canyon Mine Tour & Bus transportation ______X $37.50 $______Awards Banquet ______X $25.00 $______Purchase of additional T-Shirts Orders must be received by March 2, 2015. There will not be any orders taken for T-Shirts after this date.

T-Shirt ______Small ______Med ______Lg ______XL ______X $20.00 $______2 XL ______3 XL ______X $23.00 $______Total Enclosed $______

I accept and assume full liability for any injury or loss to my guests, my family, my property and myself. I agree to release Larry Nopper and Kristina Husa or any official of The Southlanders Edsel Owners Club members/Officers and the Riverside Hotel & Casino from any and all liabilities while attending this event. ______Signature Date

Mail registration and payment to Larry Nopper 517 S. Pasadena Ave. Glendora, CA 91741 Any questions please contact Larry or Kristina at 626-260-8014 or email at [email protected].

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1959 Edsel vs. 1959 Ford color code comparisons Compiled by Phil Skinner

For 1959 Edsels built at the Louisville plant, they had to share that production line with Ford passenger cars. While the two lines had a lot of similarities, there were a number of differences. Through the "Rotation Number" system, this seemed to keep the mixing of Ford and Edsel parts. Besides the sheet metal, trim, soft trim, and chassis differences, one of the toughest chores was keeping the paint codes apart.

A total of 17 different colors were offered on the 1959 Edsel while the 1959 Ford passenger cars offered just 14 differ- ent colors. Only two colors were shared between the two lines, Black (Raven Black on Fords or Jet Black on Edsel) and White (Colonial White on Fords or Snow White on Edsel). Here is a little chart I drew up showing a comparison of the two lines and their paint codes:

Code 1959 Edsel 1959 Ford

A Jet Black Raven Black

B Moonrise Gray

C Gold Metallic Wedgewood Blue

D Redwood Metallic Indian Turquoise

E Snow White Colonial White

F President Red Fawn Tan

G Talisman Red April Green

H Desert Tan Tahitian Bronze

J Velvet Maroon Surf Blue

K Platinum Gray

L Star Blue Metallic

M Jetstream Blue

N Light Aqua Gunsmoke Gray

P Dark Aqua Primer

Q Petal Yellow Sherwood Green metallic

R Mist Green Torch Red

S Jadeglint Green met. Special Paint

On 1959 Edsels that were ordered in two-tone colors, the number "1" was placed behind the color codes to indicate a standard two-tone paint scheme. On Ford's there were two different two-tone schemes, #1 Standard, where only the top was painted the accenting color, or #2 Styletone where the roof and lower body side panels received the main color while the hood, decklid and upper body panels received the accenting color. Due to tighter quality control measures to date we have not found a single 1959 Edsel that was apparently painted a Ford color by mistake. Volume XLVII, Issue 1 Page 7 Edsel Calendar of Events We need your Edsel photos for the 2016 Calendar! Please submit a picture either 4x6 or 5x7 with a nice background setting. Digital photos are fine. Color copies of a photo do not reproduce well. Send to Jeannine Phipps 2500 NE 187th Ave,Vancouver, WA 98684 or e-mail [email protected] or send to Lois Roth 1740 NW 3rd St Gresham, Or 97030 or e-mail [email protected] —————————————————————————————————————————————— If you wish to have extra copies of the 2015 calendar, they are $15.00 each including shipping. Contact Lois Roth, email: [email protected] or phone: 503-492-0878

We need to know what the local chapters are doing, let us know if there is anything in your area that deserves to be noted in this calendar.

Email your event info to [email protected]

Southlanders Annual Rollin' to the River Event in Laughlin, NV on March 26-29, 2015. See information in this issue or contact Larry Nopper at 626-626-8014 or email at [email protected].

The 47th Annual National EOC meet, hosted by the Redwood Chapter of EOC in Sacramento, CA on August 5, - 9, 2015

EOC MEMBERSHIP DRIVE 2015: WELCOME NEW MEMBERS!

WATCH THE SPEEDOMETER CLIMB! Allen Reed - Medina, OH Terry Morey - Columbus, OH Larry Nopper - Glendora, CA John Rouselle - Central Square, NY Paul LaFoe - Veedersburg, IN Shawn Winfield - Malaga, NJ Jeff Blose - Lebanon, PA Jason Beinbrech - Riverside, CA Michael Hegarty - Wimauma, FL Patrick Hegarty - Mechanicsville, IA Scott Crosby - Kanosh, UT Dennis Carpenter - Charlotte, NC Ellen Vojnovic - Fair Oaks, CA Dwayne Ernst - Hillsboro, IL The Big E Page 8

E DSEL A CTION A DS 1960 Edsel Ranger 4 Dr Sedan all restored(White) Ads in the Green Line are free to members. $10 64,940 Placed 2nd at Branson in 2002. Edsel Ru- fee to non-members. They will be run for 3 issues, dolph 785 582-4226 evenings or Mon/Wed Noon on a space available basis. Ads should be kept to to 5pm.at 785 233-7867 (picture of car below) (4) 35 words or less and sent to: Green Line Action Ads David Fleischer 1156 North 350 West Centerville, Utah 84014 or Email me at: [email protected] 1959 -2 door- Jet Stream Blue, Gar- age kept, 100 % mechanically restored, needs EDSELS FOR SALE body work and interior work, power steering and power brakes, 332 engine. Have extra parts. Ask- 1958 Pacer-2 door– W8UG703778 Sunset coral ing $6,500.00. Gene Davis, Hamburg, NJ 973-209 w/ met grey scallop. New front suspension, ex- -4262. Call and let’s talk. (2) haust, tires, alignment. E-400 engine rebuilt 22,000 miles ago. Everything works. Older repaint 1959 Edsel Ranger-4 door sedan - Due to health and re-upholstery job. Very showy car. Original reasons, I am forced to sell my Edsel sedan with keys. Roger Shaffer ,Hagerman, ID Ph: 208-837- 51,500 original miles. I bought the car from a 4724 or 208-358-1579. (3) dealer in Florida in 2007. The Edsel has been to- tally restored.$25,000 US dollars – contact Fritz Probst, email: [email protected] (editor’s

note: car is located in Germany)

1958 Villager 6 pass wagon - 361 V-8, auto. Runs good and has lots of new parts. Needs some work $6,500 obo 1958 Ranger 4 dr ht - 361 V-8, auto. Runs good and looks good. $6,500 obo (photo taken by editor - Mr. Shaffer’s Pacer at Jackson WY in 2000) 1959 Corsair 4 dr sedan - 361 V-8, auto. Runs good and looks good. $6,500 obo 1959 Edsel Corsair 4 door sedan Original two tone 1960 Ranger 2 dr ht - 292 V-8, auto. green. Overhauled engine and transmission. Re- Runs good and looks good. $17,500 obo conditioned gas tank. David Burch, Yelm, WA Calvin Copeland PO Box 104 White Oak, WV 98597 Ph 360-458-1556 (4) 25989 Phone: 304-573-1253 (2) Volume XLVII, Issue 1 Page 9

PARTS & LITERATURE MEMORABILIA FOR SALE ping/ins. Dave Houchin, 145 William Bartram Drive, Crescent City, FL 32112. Continental kit parts: I have most of the pieces for a continental kit that would be applicable to the small 1958-1960 Edsel Fuel Pumps. Have 6 Cyl and 8 Cyl series Edsel. Missing are the mounting bracket/ pumps for vacuum and electrical wiper models. Fac- hinge/lever that the wheel mounts to, and the spare tory rebuilt. Contact Blaise Kendzioiski, 1408 S. tire cover. I can provide photos to anyone interest- Wenona, Bay City, Michigan 48706, Ph: 989-892- ed. Doug Hartmann Ph: 402-721-1008 or dog- 2652. [email protected]. Reproduction 1958 Edsel taillight lenses: For all Various parts for 58 Edsel Ranger/Pacer: models of 1958 Edsels. Ranger & Pacer set Carter 4 barrel carburetor (rebuild candidate) $139.00. Corsair & Citation set $165.00. Wagon set Passenger side mirror, Hood (no ornament) $125.00. Free shipping to EOC members. Contact Bill Steering column (on the column shifter) & Jo Glass, 1073 North Agave St, Casa Grande, AZ I may have some other miscellaneous 58 pacer 85122 Ph: 253-686-6555 parts that will be available after this printing, Nathan Sink, NC. email: [email protected] EDSEL/EDSEL PARTS WANTED/TRADE

DVD’s for sale ---1998 EOC Convention in Dearborn WANTED—For 1960 Edsel Ranger 2-dr ht: a replace- Includes 38 Edsels on the Ford Test Track, Roy ment windshield. Contact Roy Zelinsky Ph: 204-222- Brown’s “How we designed it” presentation, Edsel 8669 Winnipeg, Manitoba intro to Ford management, TV ad, Edsels on Vaca- tion and Edsel crash tests. Runs about 4 hours. $20 WANTED—For 1960 Edsel: pot metal chrome for left Reg Brown at [email protected] 843-693- front fender top. Contact Jack Beahm 8301 Lorton 3331 (5) Rd, Lorton, VA 22079 Ph: 703-690-3022 (1)

Pacer NOS chain link seat material, red and brown. WANTED—Rear courtesy lights for a 58 Citation con- Also have some rib cloth and silver welt. Contact Jer- vertible (both sides). Also looking for a low fuel warn- ry Lasseigne, 300 Coulon Rd., Thibodaux, LA 70301, ing light SIMM relay and the solenoid/latch assembly PH: 985-446-6487. for the electric trunk release. Contact Bruce Dennison Ph: 434-589-6993. GOLD PLATED CLASSIC KEYS & N.O.S. (Original) email: [email protected] (3) KEYS for all Edsels and Ford models. Many of those hard to find keys and lock cylinders. Keys cut by WANTED—For 1960 Edsel: air conditioning compres- code, please inquire with year and model. JESSER’S sor bracket ( B8A-2882-A), air conditioning duct CLASSIC KEYS, 26 West Street, Dept EOC, Akron, OH ( B9AZ-19B680-A), and air conditioning clamp ( PB9E 44303, Phone 330-376-8181 * 24 hr FAX 330-384- -14923). Contact Rich Lindblad 405 Presidio Ct 9129 VISA Southlake, TX 76092 Ph: 940-210-9002 email: [email protected] Edsel parts; new, used & rebuilt, 1000’s in stock, parts list with SASE. Jerry Lasseigne, 300 Coulon Rd, WANTED— 4 aluminum scuff plates with the word Thibodaux, LA 70301, PH:985-446-6487 “EDSEL” embossed on them. Prefer NOS or excellent used for a ‘59 Ranger 4 door sedan. Contact: Jack Reproduction appliqué plates, hood ornaments and Ressler Ph: 814-449-1830 (3) bumper guard pads. Contact Jerry Lasseigne, 300 Coulon Rd., Thibodaux, LA 70301, PH: 985-446- WANTED—1959 battery hold down clamp and bolts 6487 (new or used) Contact: Peter D. LaChapelle, 19 Union St., Salem, MA 01970. Rear Window Rubber Seal (New) 1959 Edsel 2/4 Ph: 978-744-9198 Email: [email protected] (2) Door Sdn/Hrdtp $130.00 each. Add $15.00 ship- The Big E Page 10

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Edsel Owners Club Inc. The “BIG E” is the official publication of the Edsel Owners Club. The Club is dedicated to the preserva- tion of the Edsel, with members in all walks of life helping each other in their President - George Foran, 1614 Wilcox St, 31010 NW North Avenue, North Plains, OR 97133- labor of love. The Edsel Crest Hill, IL 60403. [email protected] 815- 6145, [email protected] 503-647-5376 Owner’s Club, Inc. was 919-3570 Founders: founded by Edsel Henry Past President - Carolyn Fakeley Edsel Henry Ford, b.1925—d. 2013 Ford, Perry E. Piper, Vice President - Regions - Reg Brown, 806 Perry Piper - b.1911- d.1999 Michael Read and David Essex Dr Summerville, SC 29485 Mike Read - b.1943 - d.2005 Sinclair and was incorpo- Ph: 843-693-3331 [email protected] rated as a non-profit organ- Treasurer - Lois Roth, Or-E-gon Chapter, 1740 David Sinclair, Eagle, ID [email protected] ization under the laws of NW 3rd St., Gresham, OR 97030, (208) 939-5534 the State of Illinois on [email protected] Other Contacts: February 3rd, 1969. Annu- 503-492-0878 Webmaster - Greg Corcoran - Columbine Chapter al membership dues: Unit- Secretary - Maye Gulley, Heart of America Chap- [email protected] ed States $35 ($25 if Big E ter, PO Box 587, DeSoto, KS 66018-0587 is received by email), Cana- [email protected] 913-583-1822 da $40 (US Funds)($30 if Vice President - Chapters - Kathye Higdem, 9211 Big e is received by email) , Portland Ave S., Bloomington, MN 55420-3839. Big E Publication Dates all others $45 (US [email protected] 952-884-3091 Funds)($35 if Big E is re- Vice President Membership - Jeannine Phipps, January, March, May, July, ceived by email) per year. Or-E-gon Chapter, 2500 NE 187th Ave., Vancou- ver, WA 98684, [email protected] September, November and Of this amount $30 is ap- 360-892-8943 plied as an annual sub- Public Relations - "Shamrock" Shelley Cleaver, Calendar Issue. scription to “The Big E”, the North Texas Chapter, 35998 US Highway 69 N, Copy deadline is 30 days pri- official club publication. All Jacksonville, Texas 75766-7578, dues should be forwarded 903-586-4311 or to above publication dates. to the club treasurer, Lois Big E/Greenline Editor– David Fleischer, 1156 Roth. An Associate Mem- North 350 West, Centerville, Utah 84014, Submit ads and photos to: bership (someone presid- [email protected] ing in the same household) Head Judge - Carroll "Higgie" Higdem, David Fleischer is available for $15. [email protected] (952) 884-3091 [email protected] Historian - Mike Hinsch, Or-E-gon Chapter,