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Lovari Interviewer: Kristyn Scorsone Date: July 28, 2017 Location: Rutgers University, Newark, NJ Queer Newark Oral History Project Interviewee: Lovari Interviewer: Kristyn Scorsone Date: July 28, 2017 Location: Rutgers University, Newark, NJ Kristyn Scorsone: Today is July 28, 2017. My name is Kristyn Scorsone and I’m interviewing Lovari, aka Antonio Lovari, for the Queer Newark Oral History Project at Rutgers-Newark. First off, thank you for doing this. Lovari: Thank you, I’m honored. Kristyn Scorsone: The first question is can you give me your date of birth and where you were born? Lovari: Sure, April 24th and I was born in Queens, New York. Kristyn Scorsone: Would you like to say what year you were born? Lovari: No. A lady doesn’t tell her age. I’m in my mid-thirties. Kristyn Scorsone: Okay, all right. You say you were born in Queens? Lovari: I was born in Queens, yes. Kristyn Scorsone: Who raised you? Lovari: Well, I had my mom and my dad, and then when I was about 13 or 14, my parents separated and I stayed with my mom. Kristyn Scorsone: Okay. Did you change households or did you always stay in one place? Lovari: Well, we always had our grandma. Both my parents worked so we lived—my mom, dad, my brother, sister and I lived in Bayside Queens and my grandparents lived in Queens Village, which is a 15-minute car ride. When my parents separated my mom was unable to afford the rent, so we ended up moving into my grandmother’s house. I mean, it wasn’t a difficult transition ‘cause we were there anyway every day after school. Kristyn Scorsone: What did your parents do for a living? Lovari: My mom worked for Brooklyn Developmental Center for people— well, at the time it was divided into two places. One was a center for people with development disabilities. Back then they called it mental retardation. The other side of it was what they called back then an asylum or institution. Kristyn Scorsone: What about your father? Lovari: My father worked for a company called Sperry. I have no freaking clue what it is. I know that they dealt with making some parts, but he worked in the office part of it. Kristyn Scorsone: Did your grandmother work too? Lovari: Not when I was— raising us, no. Kristyn Scorsone: Yeah, yeah. You have any brothers or sisters? Lovari: I do. I have a younger, brother, Mike and a younger sister Brooke. Her real name is Brooklyn, but as she got older she just wants to be called Brooke, which I’m like, “Dude, Brooklyn is like the coolest name, why wouldn’t you wanna be called Brooklyn?” Anyway, whatever. Kristyn Scorsone: Can you tell me about an early memory you have of childhood? Lovari: My earliest memory of childhood is my mom being pregnant with my brother. I was three. I remember holding—calling my youngest uncle. “Hurry up. When is he gonna come out?” I was three then. That’s my earliest childhood memory and I remember that vividly. I remember we were in between the bedroom and the bathroom, yeah, and all that. Kristyn Scorsone: You were excited about— Lovari: Yeah, yeah, and to this day I still love kids. My brother is now a father and I’m the godfather to his kid and yes, it’s the same thing. Kristyn Scorsone: Do you recall any events that were transitions or turning points in your early life? Lovari: Yes. In regards to sexuality? Yes, I do. I just wanna make sure I’m saying this properly. Yeah, it is my aunt because my grandmother’s sister, so I remember one, we used to go over there and I remember one day she was—actually I really don’t know. As I’m thinking about it now, some of the things that she did was very crazy and avant-garde. So this is what happened. There was a magazine. I don’t know, it was a gay porn magazine or a Playgirl or something and she opened up the centerfold and she showed me a guy, a naked guy and she started cracking up. I 2 remember, and I remember this, when she did that, I think I was young. I think maybe I was five or six. I remember as soon as I saw that, the minute I saw it, the naked guy, I had a tingling sensation, not a sexual one, just a weird, tingling sensation. I remember back then saying that’s what I’m gonna like. I swear to you. It was almost a psychic thing. Kristyn Scorsone: How did you feel? Did you remember that always or did you remember it later? Lovari: No, no, no. I remember it, because then as I got older and things— I knew it because when she showed me that picture and laughed, I had that feeling. Kristyn Scorsone: Was she gay or no? She was just like— Lovari: No, no. she was avant-garde. She just always, she was wild and crazy, yeah. I do wanna say, I’m sorry, I do wanna say that it wasn’t a sexual molestation thing. She was just crazy. Maybe I might have said, “What’s that?” You know because she never did anything to harm me or anything like that. Kristyn Scorsone: Just goofing around? Lovari: Yeah. Kristyn Scorsone: What was your neighborhood like? Lovari: Well, I grew up in Queens and my neighborhood was—see, I divided my time and like I said, it’s only a ten-minute drive, but there is a big difference because I divided my time between Bayside Queens, which is more now, even back then, it was kind of upper class, but now it’s really expensive to live in. Then between that and Queens Village Jamaica Queens, like Jamaica, Hollis, Queens Village. It was ethnically diverse for both. One was predominately Caucasian and that was Bayside. Then Queens Village was predominately African-American. It was a combination of both diversities. The neighborhood itself was, you know what, I don’t wanna say— about Queens Village, it wasn’t rough. I mean, some parts were probably rough, but it wasn’t dangerous. It wasn’t dangerous. When I say rough, there weren’t guns or—there was a drug problem though. I remember one time that I was ten and I started to see—and how I knew it was crack vials ‘cause I asked my grandfather, “What’s that?” I started to see a bunch of crack vials. 3 It must’ve been when crack started, but I do remember that. Yeah. Queens Village was definitely more of the rough side of it. Kristyn Scorsone: Did you like living there? Lovari: You know, I always hung out in the city. I’m gonna say no, because I’ve never been suburban. I’ve never identified suburban. Kristyn Scorsone: How would you describe yourself at that time, like, as a kid? Lovari: I’ve always been hyper. Yeah, I’ve always been hyper. It’s funny because I went through phases where I was popular or I’d get picked on. It was the weirdest thing. A lot of people I know will go through, either they were always picked on or they were always popular. With me it was so weird, like maybe in a first grade I was popular, second grade I got picked on. Third and fourth grade popular, fifth grade—it was the weirdest freaking thing ever. Kristyn Scorsone: Were you ever picked on because people perceived you were different because you were— Lovari: Sexuality? Kristyn Scorsone: Yeah. Lovari: Yes, sometimes. Although the majority of time being picked on wasn’t that. It was just because I was overweight and that was really the majority of when I was picked on, but there were a few people that did use the term faggot and all that. Kristyn Scorsone: Were there adults in your life besides people that raised you, besides your mom and dad that shaped you in any way or that impacted you? Lovari: My aunt Michelle, my godmother, totally. She lived in the Village, MacDougal Street. Oh, I should be identifying where these places are right? People are gonna automatically go, “What’s that?” Greenwich Village in Manhattan, yeah, tattoos, really cool. She introduced me to what she said was cool stuff like Janis Joplin, the Grateful Dead, things like that. She worked in a pet store, so she had in her apartment she had all these animals. Yeah. That’s why I hung out in the city all the time, you know what I mean, like that. Kristyn Scorsone: What did you do in the city? 4 Lovari: Oh, my gosh, well, it was mostly with her. We’re talking about when I was a kid first, right, not a teenager? Kristyn Scorsone: Yeah. Lovari: She took me to a lot of, you know, plays. See, here’s the thing, at the time, Greenwich Village was very bohemian, very artsy. Kristyn Scorsone: Was this the ‘90s or the ‘80s? Lovari: This was the ‘90s and it was very bohemian, very artsy and it wasn’t the way Greenwich Village is today. The best way I could think of is if anybody was how parts of Williamsburg are today, that’s the way Greenwich Village was back then, but even cooler than Williamsburg. Yeah, I just went to plays or she took me to concerts. It’s funny, because now that this person made a comeback, Paula Abdul, yeah and Milli Vanilli, and by the way, they did sing live when I was there.
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