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1-The Journal Issue No 2 Several readers respond to the canon articles in the last two issues 3 Noel Rude doesn’t think it’s likely that anyone is a bibliolater 3 Gavin Rumney talks about the canon TheJournal and the authorship of Paul’s epistles 4 Tina Engelbart thinks the early church News of the Churches of God had at least one female minister Vol. XVI, No. 2 Founded 1997 Issue No. 148 (Feb. 29, 2012) Navy pilot almost became The canon’s still WCG’s 2nd in command under discussion etters and longer comments Dr. de Jager and Mr. Gerringer are executives and met dignitaries, presi- in the form of editorials are friends of Charles Hunting. Chris dents and royalty in many countries, L still coming in on the Bible Hunting is Charles Hunting’s son. Dr. including Emperor Haile Selassie, canon, a subject broached in the de Jager writes from Brisbane, Aus- Golda Meir, Yigal Yadin, Gideon Dec. 20, 2011, issue by writers tralia, Mr. Gerringer from Los An- Hausner, King Leopold and the presi- Dixon Cartwright and Alex Ciurana. geles, Calif., and Chris Hunting from dents of Lebanon and Egypt. In this issue are editorials by Sydney, Australia. His life can be conveniently seg- Noel Rude (“Is There Such a Thing mented into three stages: the roughly 35 as Bibliolatry?”) and Gavin Rum- By Garry de Jager, Robert years before joining the WCG, the 20 ney (“Most People Don’t Know Gerringer and Chris Hunting years as part of that organization, and How We Ended Up With the Bible”). harles Freeman Hunting (com- the 35-plus years of a relatively quiet Several letter writers this time monly known as CFH), a fig- life after separation from the group. also address the issue. C ure widely known in World- Charles Hunting was the second If you would like to weigh in, wide Church of God and last child of Charles you’re invited. circles and its offshoots, and Esther Hunting, Letters about the canon or any died at a hospice in Sa- born Jan. 11, 1919, in other subject should ideally max rasota, Fla., Nov. 11, Santa Monica, Calif. out at 300 words. 2011, Veterans Day (or He attended Redlands Writers of articles other than Remembrance/Armis- High School, then three letters are asked to include a brief tice Day). years at San Bernar- biographical blurb and a photo of He was just short of dino College and one themselves. See page 3 of any is- his 93rd birthday. year at UCLA. sue of THE JOURNAL for examples. Charles was a strong E-mail articles and letters to and colorful personali- World War II WOMEN IN THE BIBLE—In this JOURNAL file photo Tina Engelbart visits in [email protected], or fax them ty, handsome in appear- volunteer Dallas in 2008 with longtime friend Wayne Cole of Tyler, Texas. See articles to (888) 488-6603, or mail them to ance and persuasive in Shortly thereafter about Mrs. Engelbart and her perspective on women in the Bible beginning on P.O. Box 1020, Big Sandy, Texas vocal delivery. World War II start- pages 1 and 4 of this issue. [Photo by Dixon Cartwright] 75755, U.S.A. Friends and oppo- ed and he volunteered nents alike considered Charles Hunting for the U.S. Navy as a him a person of charm trainee pilot, received and warmth, with a mischievous streak. six or so weeks of flight training for CFH could be insensitive and over- combat fighters and was dispatched Church of God member says Bible doesn’t ly candid in expressing his opinions, on an aircraft carrier to the Pacific although he had a reputation for being theater. prohibit women elders including preachers honest. He was a gifted speaker who During the Battle of Guadalcanal in could both inspire and instill fear. late 1942 he was shot down by “friend- By Dixon Cartwright Mrs. Engelbart, widow of former has nothing against women serving as At the height of his career in the ly fire” and wanted to bail out, but his ina Engelbart was taken aback Worldwide Church of God and United Sabbath-school teachers and helpers WCG, he was one of the top five See CHARLES HUNTING’S, page 7 a few years ago when she read Church of God pastor Ozzie Engel- of widows, the UCG’s policies are im- Ta study paper produced by a bart, who died in 2000, wanted to be properly restrictive and not in line committee of the United Church of able to explain to her grown children with the Bible. God about the “biblical role of women.” the Bible’s teaching about women. She tempers her comments, how- She found herself in disagreement ever, with assurances that she is a SOOJ’s Lake of the Ozarks with the paper’s thesis: that women Couldn’t find a prohibition loyal member of the UCG. United is because they’re women are automati- She says she was astounded to dis- “my church,” she said, “and I love my cally disqualified from leadership po- cover through her study that the Bible church. But we just happen to dis- Feast focuses on the young sitions in the UCG. does not prohibit women from serving agree on this issue.” A few years earlier Mrs. Engelbart, in leadership positions, even as pastors. ollowing are reports on 2011 People attended from several states, in response to a question from her In 2005, during her several years of Some examples Feast observances in Colo- including Colorado, New Mexico, daughter and son-in-law, had em- research, the church that she is a mem- In her paper Mrs. Engelbart refers F rado and Missouri. This is the Texas, Oklahoma, Wisconsin, Min- barked on a study of the proper role of ber of, the Ohio-based United Church to several “significant inconsistencies second installment of reports for the nesota, Idaho, California, Washing- women based on her research and of God, came out with a doctrinal paper when comparing various translations ’11 Feast, which was observed by ton, Oregon and Kansas. They re- interpretation of the Bible. titled “The Biblical Role of Women.” of the Bible with the Greek Received most Church of God members from turn year after year. It’s that good. She delved into Scripture—Paul’s The UCG’s paper concludes that, Text,” including: the evening of Oct. 12 through Oct. The sermons fit hand in hand as epistles and elsewhere—after her although women should not teach or The appearance of Aquila’s name 20 (counting the Last Great Day, though they daughter and her daughter’s husband preach during Sabbath services, the before Priscilla’s in Acts 18:26. The Great Last Day or Eighth Day). THE were appoint- questioned a Church of God doctrine. UCG “value[s] those individuals Greek puts Priscilla first. JOURNAL expects to wrap up the ed by the Lord who serve the Church as teachers of The translation of diakonos as reports in the next issue. Himself. Wanted to explain other women, Sabbath school teach- “servant” when applied to Phoebe in The mes- FEAST FOR THE SCATTERED The teaching they questioned is ers, organizers of service to the ill Romans 16:1, while in all other scrip- sages are ap- based on a literal reading of 1 Corin- and needy, youth camp leaders, help- tures that use this same word it is By Dale Atteberry preciated and thians 14. It says that women are to be ers of widows, etc.” translated as “minister.” RAND JUNCTION, Colo.— informative, “silent” in the churches. Although Mrs. Engelbart says she See HER DAUGHTER’S page 4 GThe Christian Church of God motivating us (CCG) of Grand Junction in 2011 to bear down held its 12th Feast of Tabernacles in in our quest for Grand Junction. Dale Atteberry the Kingdom My wife, Colleen, and I have prize. After all, Buyer of AU Big Sandy wants to give away attended 10 years and find each year boys and girls, that’s what it’s all to be topnotch in every way: the about. scenery, location, friendly people, Pam Elliot conducted the choir historic 217-acre campus in Massachusetts facilities, spiritual food and extra and played the piano. Several others activities. gave musical performances. he buyer of the Ambassador Worldwide Church of God for a the new owner must demonstrate the These things are extraspecial to Two young fellows played trum- University campus near Big reported $8.5 million. The Green ability to afford upkeep. Catch No. 2: us because we are alone at home pet and trombone: Cody Slater and TSandy, Texas, is trying to give family purchased the A prospective owner must commit to observing the Sabbath nine months John Traver. I would mention others away a historic 217-acre campus in Northfield campus in offering education based on more or of the year 175 miles from the near- but I might leave someone out. Massachusetts, according to the Pres- 2009 for $100,000 less traditional conservative Chris- est church and brethren. We had two well-attended Bible byterian Church (U.S.A.)’s Web site and has spent $5 mil- tian doctrines. Our visits to our sons in East studies. One followed a question- and other sources. lion in improvements. The Greens sent invitations to 15 Texas in the winter and the Feast of and-answer format and one was on The property is formerly the The Greens thought institutions in January. If none of Tabernacles in the fall are only times history and its implications about Northfield Mount Hermon prep they had a taker, but those qualifies, other organizations we can be in church services.
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