Spoilercast 15: One More Spoiler, Please
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Spoilercast Episode 15: One More Spoiler Please, Sherlock September 6, 2013 [Intro music] Shannon: Hi, this is Spoilercast 15 and this is Shannon! Dixie: And this is Dixie! Geny: Hi this is Geny! Shannon: How are you guys feeling? Filming has wrapped, this may be our last set of spoilers, at least for a very long time… Geny: Nooooo! Dixie: I’m celebrating by getting drunk, so… one of us is drunk. Shannon: Yeah… [laughing] Shannon: Well I have to go into work still, so no drinking for me. But we still have a lot to talk about, because despite the fact that filming wrapped several days ago, there are still spoilers that have come out that we haven’t covered yet. So we’re going to get started with the really big one that everyone’s been talking about. And that’s the BBC Drama trailer. What did you guys think of that? Geny: Ah, just the two of us… Shannon: Against the rest of the world. Geny. As it should be, honestly. Thank you BBC, that was like a really great thing to finish the whole setlock thing with, by just jumping right into showing us what Sherlock is going to be, uh… Showing us, so to say, in January hopefully? Shannon: Or sooner… Geny: Or sooner! Oh my God. Shannon: I know there’s – there’s been some speculation where people were saying, “Oh because this was supposed to be the 2013 drama lineup” that that’s hinting that it’ll come out sooner. But the BBC did also tweet that there are no transmission dates yet. So maybe people wanna hold off on getting too excited. Geny: Yeah, Mark tweeted about it again as well, that he’s blue in the face about answering this question again and again, which means there is no airdate yet, unfortunately! Shannon: But you know what’s really funny, because we’re spoiled we got to enjoy different glimpses of Sherlock in this trailer that the unspoiled couldn’t appreciate. Just because there’s a lot of action going on. So, what did you guys think about Mary’s presence? Dixie: Most people didn’t know that that was them on the motorcycle. Only the people that had been spoiled, so… but it was like what, 8 seconds? All we got was 8 seconds? I wanted 10 seconds, or 12. [laughing] Dixie: Gimme a little more! Just a little more. Geny: It’s just so very interesting that really only the people who were there at the beginning of setlock knew that this was Mary on the back of the motorcycle – well, that this was Sherlock and Mary on the motorcycle, so to say. Shannon: Right… and we knew that because of costuming. People paid attention to what Mary was wearing, especially those white shoes – I remember finding it kind of weird, why is she wearing white with all this dark clothing? But it did really help pick her out. Geny: Yeah, I mean that orange jacket is kind of a pointer as well. Shannon: True. Geny: But, yeah that was the very first night out, filming in… Bristol on March the 25th… something like that, 26th. So, a long, long time ago. But because of that we could also tie in certain other scenes that were shown that were not showing Sherlock, were not showing Mary, or anybody that we knew from Sherlock. Shannon: Yes! Geny: People staring at the bonfire, which also was invisible you only saw the reflection of the fire in their faces and their eyes. And you were able to basically place those people into Sherlock because we have setlock and we knew that there were people standing around the fire. We knew from the casting list that there was going to be a younger girl screaming at the fire because she realizes there’s a real person in there. Which kind of gave setlockers more info than people who were only seeing it for the first time or people who were not spoiled, that kind of missed half of the stuff they showed us. Shannon: Cause when I was watching it I kept looking for that you know, iconic curly hair and you know, Sherlock’s coat. And we got plenty of that. But the either lesserknown characters or you know, ancillary action that people wouldn’t know about is gonna seem like it might belong to another show for people who aren’t spoiled. So that’s kind of the charm of it, is that people who aren’t spoiled could enjoy the drama trailer without being spoiled for anything. Cause again, someone was joking about, we didn’t even get to see John’s mustache here, like it was too hot for primetime or something. [laughing] Geny: It’s true! They also didn’t give away the Mary thing yet, because people would not know that it’s Sherlock and Mary on the motorcycle. Shannon: Right, and I read somewhere someone was com commenting on the lack of women, um, being apparent in the trailer for all these shows. Um, they were very menfronted and it was kind of neat because we could see how, well, you can’t tell Mary’s in there cause she’s a new character. But those of us who know what to look for can see Mary, and the fact that we got to see those three prominent characters – we didn’t, as far as I could tell, see any other characters from Sherlock except Sherlock, John and Mary. So that’s kind of an interesting way to hint at these pivotal characters for series 3. Geny: And I love the Bond connection in the beginning when Sherlock was once again on the rooftop; it was like a very typical backdrop for, um, the Bond film with Daniel Craig. I found it very interesting to see two very completely different television events, so to say, with the same backdrop and having such a different meaning all of a sudden. Because it’s a very patriotic backdrop for Bond, where all the Union Jacks are flying. And for Sherlock it’s just angst, again and emotions. You see him looking out, you see him on the rooftop, you’re like, “Get down there!” It was a great introduction to the character Sherlock Holmes and I don’t know if it’s going to be in the series. Shannon: Well you know, I think it will because what – you were seeing it as patriotic, I was seeing it as, it’s London who we’ve talked about before being another major character in the television show and in the Sherlock Holmes canon. And I was so, I guess I had tears in my eyes when I was watching it cause it seems so majestic to me that at first I thought, what is he looking at? Is that his mind palace? But it was only on rewatching that I was like no, no, that’s like the … the city scape, you know from – it’s beautiful, and really majestic in a sense. And I thought comparing it to the Bond footage, it was more beautifully shot. We have a closer up view of Sherlock and London together. Whereas Bond is a bit more isolated, cameras pulled further back. And I just thought oh, yeah this is, it’s almost like a romance. Dixie: He looks so lonely. Geny: Yeah! Dixie: He looks so lonely without his John. Geny: Like Batman looking out over Gotham City. Like Sherlock is watching his city, as soon as you hear, like, “Sherlock!” somewhere he’s going to jump off that roof – well, I shouldn’t say it like that. Dixie: Ohh God, no! Geny: Dixie what did you think of the scratch on Sherlock’s lip in the last part of the trailer? Dixie: He gets hit twice, I think! That is not a headbutt. Geny: Yeah, it’s not a headbutt, right? Because he only had a nosebleed from the head – Dixie: I wish Mary would slug him. Geny: What if it was Mary though? Mary is wearing rings on both hands, actually. Dixie: Yeah that looks like something – like a ring would cut his lip. So hopefully, maybe she did! Shannon: Wait a minute, so you think the headbutt wouldn’t affect – would only affect his nose, not his nose and mouth too? Dixie: No. Geny: Well that I don’t know, but the photos from that night did not show a bust lip. Shannon: Maybe they had an actual fight like in the bar not just John headbutting Sherlock but maybe there was an actual, you know, throwdown with the wait staff and everybody got involved and that’s what Sherlock’s all excited about. Geny: They did have a fight, uh, according to the casting thing the manager of the fancy restaurant has to kid of separate two people fighting, so maybe it’s that. Dixie: But his lip’s not split in those pictures though. Geny: Then maybe the kind of teaser trailer that we got is showing us two different things? Dixie: Maybe Mrs. Hudson slugged him, wouldn’t that be awesome? [laughing] Dixie: She threw the teakettle at him. [laughing] Geny: What about the quote though? It’s “The thrill of the chase, the blood pumping through your veins, just the two of us against the rest of the world.” Shannon: It’s a great quote. You know, it thrilled me in the way they broke it up.