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LOKSABHA..'~ ...·DEBATES (English Ve~~ion)

Ninth Session .(Eighth Lok Sabha)

(Vol. XXXIII contains Nos. II 1020)

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(fiBhth Series, Volume JODCIII, Nnth Session, 1987/1909 (Saka)] No.13, Tuesday, November 24, 1987/~ 3, 1909 ($aka)

COWMNS

Oral AnsMrs to Questions:

• Starred Questions Nos. 249 to 251 and 255 to 258 ... 1-27

Short Notice Question No.1 ... 27-29

Written AnsweIs to Questions:

Starred Questions Nos. 248, 252 to 254 and 259 to 267 ... 30--50

Unstaned Questions Nos. 2502 to 2518, 2520 to 2541,2643 to 2702, 2704 to 2721 and 2723 to 2735 ... 50--314

Papers Laid on the Table ... 321-324

Business Advisory Committee ... 325

Forty-fourth Report - adopted

Matters Under Rule 377- 325-330

(i) Need to set up rubber based industries in Kanyalcumari

Shri N. Dennis ... 325

(ii) Need to reduce the air fare by Air India in CuIf-sector

Shri V.s. Vijayaraghavan ... 326

(iii) Demand for providing financial assistance for desilting Chillca lake of Orissa and developing it ~ a tourist centre

Shri Brajarnohan Mohanty ... 326

iv) Need to fill up the vacancies reserved for Ex-serviceman particularty in 8.S.F. by amending the rules suitably

ShriAjayMushran ... 327

• The sip + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. (;) (ii)

COLUMNS

(v) Demand for more Central assistance to Orissa in a view of recent damap by cydone and rains

Shri Japnnath Pattnaik ••. 327

(vi) Need to sandion special ad hoc grants for the development of Konlcan region of Maharashtra

Shri Hussain DaIwai ••• 328

(vii) Need to convert the existing unmanned railway crossing gate at Jatlakanupur village in Nellore district, of Andhra Pradesh into a manned level aossing

Shri P. Penchalliah ... 329

(viii) Need to complete the Geruknunkh Project to control floods and supply power to Assam

Shri CoIcuI Sailcia ... 329

Constitution (Fifty-sixth Amendment BilI)- ... 330-471

Motion to consider-

Shri Chintamani Panigrahi .•. 330

Shri Ie. Ramachandra Reddy ... 332

Shri Naresh Chandra ChabJrvedi ... 335

Shri Somnath Chatterjee ... 344

Shri ZainuI Basher ... 349

Shri V.S. Krishna lyer ••. 356

Shri BaIkavi Bairasi .•• 359

Shri P. KoIandaivelu .•. 364

Shri Yogeshwar Prasad Yogesh ... 370

Shrimati Ceeta Mukherjee ..• 372

Shri Bhadreswer Tanti .•• 373

Shri C. Janp Reddy .•. 375

Prof. Saifuddin Soz ••• 376

Shri G.M. BanatwaIIa ••• 378 (Iii)

COLUMNS

Clauses 2, 3 and 1 ... 456

MotlOil to pass. as arnended-· ... 456

Shri Chintamani Panigrahi ... 456

Discussion Re. Situation arising out of natural calamities with particular reference to drought, ftoods and cyclone- ... 471-512

Shri Dinesh Goswami ... 472

Shri M. Rapuma Reddy ... 482

Shri Manoj Pandey ... 488

Shrimati Prabhawati Gupta ... 492

Shri Thampan Thonaas ... 497

Shri Somnath Rath ... 504

Shri Madan Pandey ... 508

Shri Vijoy Kumar Yadav ... 511

WK SABRA DEBATES

1 2 , LOKSABHA May I know from the hon. Minister whether the criterion for detennination of Tuesday, November 24, 1987/ABrahayana industrially backward areas, that is, in terms 3, 1909 (Saka) of blocks or taluks could be taken as a unit instead of district for industrial backward- The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of ness. the Oock SHRI M. ARU~ACHALAM: I accept the [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] hon. Member'S views that the policy we have followed earlier is a little outdated. An inter- ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ministenal committee was appointed under the chairmanship of the Planning Commis- [English] sion secretary. The committee has submitted its report to the Government. The Govern· Revised guidelines for Industrially ment is still considering it. The committee backward areas has gone in detail into the ecological aspect referred to by our fnend. I hope that the Gov .. *249. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the Mimster ernment will be taking a decision shortly on of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: that and other things.

(a) whether Government have formu- PROF. N. C. RANCA: When that report lated revised gUidelines for industrtally back- would be available? ward areas; and THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. (b) if so, the details thereof? VENGAL RAO): Let me answer Rangaji's question. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You can add any- MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY thing to what your colleague, the Minister (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM): (a) and (b). The has already said In reply to Mr. Dennis's report of the anter-minlStenal committee on question. revision of guidelines for industrially backward areas is under consideration of the SHRI J. VENCAl RAO: I will certainly add. Government. SHRI C. C. SWELL: If a menlbershoots up SHRI N. DENNIS: The cntenon adopted a question from hiS seat by way of a casual for deterrmnat.on of backward areas is out- remark, will it entail answer from the minis- dated;.twasadoptcd in the year 1969.Now, ter? If it matches a precedent laid down, it the aaijal Committee has submitted its report should be carried out. We will go by that. on this subject and it is reported that there IS no consensus amved at on the environmental aspects. I would like to know whether MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: There is no prece- the other aspects of industrial backwardness dent like that. in regard to the backward areas would be taken Into consideration at the earliest as any SHRI C. C. SWELL: No, no. the hone delay in the decision or postponement would Minister is going to answer. I am on a ~a~se difficulties. precedent. 3 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 4

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No. There is no cpuntry. He has also pointed out about the precedent. It is not a precedent. I told the Public Sector Undertakings. Recently, I inau- hone Minister not to answer. Rangaji's ques- gurated one Public Sector Unit in Madras tion. which has been constructed by MIs. Andrew Yule's. I inaugurated it. Already there is a lot SHRI G. G. SWEll: We want it to be of Central Government investment made in accepted as a precedent. We can do that. Tamil Nadu. The other question was about MR.DEPUlY SPEAKER: I am not creating the Inter-Ministerial Committee. The Cov- any precedent like that. I only told the minis- ernment of India appointed the commission ter that he can add to the answer given to the under Shri Baijal, Secretary, Planning Com- question of Mr. Dennis. I am not allowing Mr. mission . The Baijal Committee report was Rangaji's question. submitted to the Government. It is under active consideration of the Government. I SHRI C. C. SWEll: We shall be happy think in the new year-in 1988- January or with it. February, we will take a decision to implement the recommendations of that commit- SHRI J. VENGAl RAO: We would not like tee. to make you happy about this. PROF. N. C. RANCA: Sir, I am sorry that I SHRI C. C. SWELL: You cannot make me unnecessarily created that problem earlier. I happy. I know! would like to know as to how soon the consideration of the report would be over and SHRI N. DENNIS: Some districts which when that would be placed on the Table are classified as industrially backward, re- of this House; whether Government would main so without industrial establishments for see that those industries which have a number of years. The policy of providing already been started in the then classified fiscal and physicalencentives did not succeed- backward areas would not be, in any way, fully. The policy of the Government regarding put to disadvantageous position by the dispersal of industries away from metropoli- recommendations made by this committee. tan cities and towns also did not materialise. So, may I know from the hone Minister what SHRIJ. VENGALRAO: Regarding subsidy, concrete steps the Government is going to the industries which have been located in the take up for the emergence of industrial estab- backward areas will not get any subsidy after lishments in the backward areas? ~ per the 31 st January 1988 and we are removing that present policy of dispersal of industries, in- subsidy. For the dispersal of industries to dustries continue to emerge in towns and various parts of the backward areas in the cities which is creating problems of environ- whole of the country, th~ Baijal Committee ment and also congestion. I would also like to has recommended nearly 150 Crowth Cen- put one more question I would also like to ters. N ow that is before the Cabinet. After know whether it is a fact that in some of the that, I will place it on the Table of the House. states like Tamil Nadu, Public Sector industries have not been started for the past 20 SHRI ANANDA GAJAPATHI RAJU: Mr. years or so; whether the Government would Deputy Speaker Sir, I would like to know consider to establish public sector industries from the hone Minister whether the employ- in such States to give away the disparities and ment criteria in jobs that are created will be imbalances that exist in our country. taken into consideration while deciding certain areas as backward areas. Secondly, re- SH RI J. VENGAl RAO: I would like to add sarding the part (b) of the question, I \\'ould to my colleague's answer only. The last ques- like to know whether my District-Vipytl- tion which he asked was about Tamil Nadu. nagaram--in view of its huge disadvanta- Tamil Nadu IS one of the developed states in geous pOSition as far as industry is con- the country. It ranks third position in the cerned, as far as Agriculture is concerned, 5 QraI MswelS ACRAHAYANA 3 1909 (SAKA) 0Ml ArlswelS 6

would also be considered to be declared as backward areas. In 1984, the total letters of backward area. intent issued 1064, and out of that, 624 letters of intent have been issued to the SHRI J. VENGAl RAO: I think certainly in backward areas; as far as industrial licences your constituency tflat agency":' Parvathipu- are concerned, out of 905, 323 licences hav~ ram agency-will get benefit out of that been issued to the backward areas; as far as Committee's recommendations. DGTD registration is concerned, out of 1915, 1144 have been allotted to the backward [1 ranslation] areas: In 1986, if you see the figures, out of SHRI RAM PVARE PANIKA: Mr. Deputy 1130 letters of intent, 621 have been issued speaker, Sir, for the last few days, the Gov- to the backward areas; as far as industrial ernment has been assuring for making licences are concerned, out of 618, 278 have amendments in the guidelines but it has not been given to the backward areas; as far as so far arrived at any conclusion to take a OCTO registration is concerned, in 1986, out concrete decision. As a result of this, imbal- of 1162, 610 have been registered in back· ance is being created in several areas, par- ward areas. Another indicator is the release of tk&Jlarly in backward ~reas of the country. Central investment subsidy; over the last Will the hon. Minister announce a definite three years, there has been a considerable date for the scheme under which certain increase in releases of subsidy. In 1982 .... districts are to be declared backward? Will block and talukas too tn the districts be SH RI RAM PyARE PAN IKA: There is no declared backward? Because by setting up dispute on this. The only dispute is about Industnes In a particular block or taluka, the declaring an area as a backward area. The whole district, particularly in the hilly, desert, guidelines under which backward areas are tribal or cyclonic areas, does not get devel- being declared are not such that the actual oped. Will the hoo. Minister assure that on backward areas will be covered by them. the basis of the report certain areas will be declared backward? SHRI M. ARUNACHAL.Atv1: The Baijal (English] Committee has gone into ·it .The State Gov- ernments have made many suggestions. The SHRI J. VENGAl MO: It is only to remove Baijal Committee has gone into those, and it the imbalance in development in these areas has given its recommendations. The Govern- and, secondly, for dispersal of the industries ment is considering the Report. in remote areas. ,The main recommendation in this Report is not to locate industries in DR. DAnA SAMANT: The hon. Minister places which are already congested like met- has said that industries should be set up in ropoitan towns and other big Municipalities; backward areas. Government is giving a lot of the industry should be located in other far-off concessions m excise duties and other subsi- places. It is under the active consideration of dies also. It is a good point and I appreciate theCovemment. I think, as early as possible, that. But the whole difficulty is this. Whatever we will take a decision on this. big industrial houses are there with parallel industries in Bombay, Calcutta and other SHRt RAM PYARE PANIKA: Incentives are cities, the same people are takmg advantage not being given to them. of all the concessions offered for backward areas; they are closing down the industries in SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM: I will supple- metropolitan cities and are shifting to the

A ment. We have the existing backward area backward areas. That should be banned. In development policy, and if you analyse the Maharashtra, about 140 big industries and present policy and the letters of intent, Ii· about 9,000 small industries are dosed, and cences and OCTO registration granted to the in 98 per cent of the cases, the reason is 'em- backward areas, you will find that a substan- ployer' The same tndustrialists have taken tial percentage of these licences has gone to advantage of the concessions offered for 7 Oral Answets NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Oral Mswen 8

setting up industries in backward areas, be it would like to know categorically from the in Gujarat or in' Karnataka or in Andhra Hon. Minister whether it is not a fact that the Pradesh. Four Chief Ministers have come in Siva raman Committee has recommended to Bombay. They had called all these employers treat the block as a unit for identifying the in the Taj Hotel and they are treating them as industrial backwardness as well as the Baijal son-in-law and saying, IIplease, come. I will Committee which also recommended to take give you everything like infrastructure, sub- talukas a unit for industrial backwardness. In sidy and all these things." May I know the entire country while there are 93 I no- whether the Government is going to put a industry districts' in the entire South, there is restriction, while starting a factory in the only one no industry district 'which clearly' backward area, that in other areas and places shows that the industries are not dispersed the parallel or the existing factory should not to the rural areas. I n these circumstances, I be closed. I can understand when it is said would like to know categOrically from the that new factories should not be started. ,But Hon. Minister-I am happy that he has made at the same time, existing factories in the an announcement that the Government will metropolitan places should not be closed. take a decision in January next-one thing They can start new factories by giving conces- about which we are very much perturbed sions. What type of monitoring the Govern- that there will not be any subsidy or incen· ment is going to do? tives in future except those in the growth centre. I ask the Government, is it proper and (Interruptions) whether the Government will assure that these incentives which are at present avail- THE MINISTER Of ENERGY (SHRI VAS- able for starting industries in the backward ANT SATHE): But if they are dosing it on areas will continue in future also in this 'no account of Datta Samant, what can you do? industry' blocks or taluks and is it a fact that from Uttar Pradesh there is a lot of resistence

DR. DATTA SAMANT: Are you going to for this change of the policy, that is, from I no

start the factories of only big people like Tatas industry' district to I no industry' taluks or and Birlas? blocks? Is it a fact and if so, whether the Government will withstand that type of pres- (In terru ptions) sure or lobbying from one State in view of the greater interest to develop industries in the SHRI J. VENGAl RAO: I am sorry, without backward areas in the South. I would like to my reply, they are unnecessarily bothering. have a categOrical answer from the Hon. As the Hon. Member Dr. Datta Samant has Minister. said, we are not going to close the existing . industries in the cities, and in the backward SHRI J. VENGAl RAO: Sir, in the present areas also, the scheme will end by'the end of policy, thete is no 'no industry' districts in January 1988. I do not w. ilt to annoy Dr. Andhra. According to Baijal report, all these . Datta Samant. But the highest number of anomalies will be removed in Andhra closed industries are in Maharashtra. I want Pradesh, Kamataka Tamil Nadu who are all the cooperation of Or. Datta Samant. beneficiaries of the recommendation.

(Interruptions) [Translation J

DR. DATTA SiVMNT: Industries are not SHRI K.D. SULTANPURI: The Hon. Minis- closed due to Datta Samant. It is because ter has said that more than , 000 licences some people are getting advantage of that, have been issued. I would 'ike to know as to you ~re giving them all concessions. Are you how many licences h~e been issued to hilly ~ the factories for industrialists? areas and by what time they have been asked to set up industries? How many factories ~. SOBHANADREESWARA RAO: have since been set up and how many are yet 9 Oral MswetS ACIWtAYANA 3, 1909 (SAKA) Oral Answers 10 to be set up? Will the Government ensure SHRI V~T SATHE: Mr. Speaker, Sir, as that employment is made available to the I have stated in my reply, we are meeting the people of the area where these factories are gap of about 10,000 MW between demand set up? It should also be indicated whether and supply from indigenous sources as has licences are not being misused. been provided in the Plan. I have already stated in the House that there will be a [fnglish 1 shortage of 10,000 MW in the Seventh Five Year Plan. So far as the question of resources SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM: The hilly areas is concerned, we have inwrred an expendi- have been classified as backward special re- rure to the rune of Rs. 34 thousand crores for giOns. We are giving licences to the backward 22,000 MW. However, there will be a re- areas. I don't have the figu~es for the hilly quirement of 32,000 MW. Hence in order to areas alone: I have the total figure for the meet the gap, we will be required to take entire backward area. If the Hon. Member foreign assistance. This assistance is received needs It, I will collect It and pass it on to him. on bi-lateral basis as in the case of the U.S.S.R. We are receiving maximum assistance from them. They have assured us·to Foreign Loans for Power Projects supply the eqUipment for creating about 4,000 MW capacity. One is for Tehri and the ·250. ~HRI PRAKASH CHANDRA: other is for Bakareshwar. Negotiations are on SHRI DHARAM PAL in this regard. I have discussed the matter SINGH MAUK: with the Chief Minister of West Bengal about Will the MinISter ot ENERGY be pleased to the offer from the U.S.S. R. If the Government stats of West Bengal agrees, it will be easier. Offers have also been rec.eived from other countries (a) whether Govemment propose to viz Canada, Germany, United Kingdom etc. seek foreign loans to fund power projects to Weare considering various projects on merit. meet the energy demand of the country, and Hence, I cannotsayaboutanypartirularproj- ect because it has not been finalised. (b) if so, the details thereof? . (Englls/lJ THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VAS- ANT SATHE). (a) and (b) While pnmary reli- SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: May I know ance contmues to be placed on plan re- from the han. Minister whether there are sources and onjndigenous sources of supply conditionalities that these countries are im- of power equipment, in view of the overall re- posing on these loans and insisting that boil- source constraint, external assistance for ers and other equipments should also be some power projects is resorted to on a case- purchased from those countries and as a to-case basiS. Specific offers received In this result of this our boiler manufacturing units regard are examined on the basis of the like ABl and BHEl are not getting orders? I merits of each case. would like to know whether it isa factor not?

(Trans/ation) SHRI VASANT SATH E: It is nota fact. As far as indigenous capacity of BHEl or ABl or SHRI PRAKASH CHANDRA: Mr Deputy other units is concerned we can only assign SpeaKer, Sir, which power projects ,n the our Plan resources to these companies. We country are under consideration of the Gov .. are doing that fully. As tar as conditionality is emment for which it is proposed to take concerned no country outside if it wants to foreign assistance? Which are the countries give that assistance will come as a charity. from whom assistance is proposed to be They will naturally want to serve their own taken? interest. What we have to see is that our 11 Oral AnsweB NOVEMBER 24, 1987 12

t interest also is safeguarded. Our national I would like to know whether you are interest must not be sacrificed. working on a perspective plan for meeting this gap in the future. What are you doing Nobody whether it is Russia, Germany, with the plutonium from your nuclear power Arneric'a or U.K. will give us assistance as a plants? Have you got fast breeder reactor charity. Therefore, either you want power or anywhere? You are aware that in three days you say we do not want power. Even in the earth gets as much energy from the sun as regard to Bakreshwar unit the condition is it would get by buming all the forests and that we will have to buy the equipment from hydrocarbon. Harnessing of Solar energy is the country which is going to give us assis- going to be the technology of the 21st cen- tance. Either you say 'yes' or you say 100'. It is tury. Are we doing any research work in this foryou to decide. If you say 'no' neither BHEl area? nor ABl will get it. So it must be of mutual interest. My top most priority is to see that ournational interest is not sacrificed.That we SH RI VASANTs.\TH E: I am thankful to the will ensure come what may. Hon'ble Member for drawing our attention to these new areas of energy. Research and SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: I want to know development work. is being done in this. We whether Government has received any pro- have perspective plan. Our study shows that posal from Non-Resident Indians to set-up the demand projection by 2000 it IS not far power plants in the country? If they have not off, just 12 years hence--made by the Plan- received and if they are going to receive in ningCommission and by the Central Electric- future what is going to be the attitude of the ity Authority will be 1,67,000 MW of installed GoVernment towards such proposals? Sec- capacity. Today it is 51,OOOMW. We will have ondly have NRls approached the Kamataka to induct nearly 1,15,000 MW more in the Government and offered toset-up three ther- next 12 years. This is a reality of the situation mal power plants in the coastal areas and has if we have to meet the demand projections the Kamataka Government forwarded those which I have made on the basis of existing proposals to the Government of India? Ifso, demand. But constraint of resources is a real- what is the action taken thereon? ity. The whole House knows. You may want anything but you have no magic want to pro- SHRI VASANT SATHE: On principle when duce the resources. Unless you have the re- we are accepting bilateral offers from foreign sources, we cannot induct this capacity. This countries and companies we will be glad to is the reality. We would definitely be happy. have our own NRls if they are willing to bring resources. We will definitely encourage that SH RI C.C. SWEll.; Resources are there. but we have no concrete offer yet. The offer c:annot be hypothetical. It has to be linked SHRI VASANT ~THE: Sir, the Hon'ble with some project. It has to be in concrete Member has drawn our attention to pluto- fonn. feasibility report must be there. No nium and nuclear resources. R&D work is concrete offer from K,amataka Government going on .... (Interruptions) . ... for any station has been forwarded. to us. If .. anysuch offer comes we will definitely examine it on technical and financial grounds. I can I have said in this very House that we are say as a principle we will welcome such doing R&D effort. We are willing to take offers. technology from anywhere as far as solar energy is concerned. The real breakthrough and SHRI C. G. SWELl: Sir, my question arises solution to the problem of energy in tenns of from the reply of the Minister a little while ago electricity and also domestic energy will be and not from the question itself. The Minister the day we achieve utilisation of $Olar energy. has said that there is a gap of 10,000 MW of The day that is done, I am sure, we will also power and this gap is going to increase in the be able to overcome all the cost f:.ctors, etc. future. I am looking forward that day. I am sure, the 13 OratAnswers ACIWtAYANA; 3, 1909 {SUA) 6raJ Answers 14 young scientists of this counbywiH be able to Kamataka Government says that" they do achieve that breakthrough. . not have the rupee resources to match the foreign exchange that the Government. of SHII G.G. SWELL: Any fast breeder reac- India is giving. That.is why you are askin& tor in the countryl for deferred payment I have taken up the matter with the Finance Ministry and if the SHRI VASANT SATHE: I think, we hav,:: to ask that question to the Atomic Energy De- SHRI BHAGWAT JHAAZAD: Whileappre- partment. dating the nP.Cessity of a bilateral dialogue in respect of the Kahalgaon the •• nal SHRI V.S.KRISHNA IYER: Sir, the Hon'ble power project, with USSR, how do the Gov- Minister has just now informed the House ernment propose to 98feguard the project that Government of India has agreed, in from non-supply of things like boilers, etc. principle, to take external assistance. In this u~der the agreement coming late. For ex- may connection, I know from the Hon'ble ample, the schedule at Kahalgaon is being Minister whether for a proposal from the delayed due to non-supply of the materials 120 Government of Karnataka for MW gas from Soviet Union thereby resulting in esca- turbine, the Government of India has refused lation of costs and making the implemen~ permission to the State Government to ob- tion of the project difficult. How do you tain assistance from the foreign country on a propose to safeguard all this? I am told that deferred basis. The Hon'ble Minister agreed there is a lag in supply of material at Kahal- on the floor of the House during the last gaon and the project of 210 MW which is session that he would use his good offices in supposed to come up in 1990 is not likety to the Ministry of Finance and see that they come up. What would you do that this con- agree to the proposal. Now I understand that straint of finance does not add to your worry the Finance Ministry has rejected it. It is a by resulting in escalation costs and delaying double standard. Why is it sol the project? Sir, you accepted in principle. Why don't you convince the Kamatalca Government to SHItI VASANT SATHE: As far as Soviet take the assistance on deferred :payment? Union aided projects like Kahalgaon are con- Will the Minister kindly explain why the Fi- cerned, we have a mutual monitoring group. nance Ministry rejected that easel Will you also please ask the Finance Ministry to recon- There are some slippages but I can assure the hone Members that all this is being sorted out sider their decisi6n and see that the Govern- and all the spares or the requirements of the ment of India pennits the Kamataka Govern- equipments, etc. will come on time and the ment to import equipment on a deferred payment basis. project will not be delayed on account of delay in supply of the material. SHRI VASANT SATHE: I was responsible Supply of Diesel by Indian Oil C0rpora- for helping the Kamatalca Government in action for RaW Season quiring this 120 MW p~ of gas turbine. • + I also took up the question of deferred ·251. SHRI BAlASAHEB VtKHE PATtl.: the payment with Finance Ministry on SHRI BlMAl KANTI GHOSH: behalf of the Kamatalca Government But it is a matter which the Kamataka Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND Govemment must resolve itself with the NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Finance Ministry. They want to have the goods and pay later because they do not (a) whether the Indian Oil Corporation have the money. The Reserve Bank and the anticipate any difficulty in meeting the re- Finance Ministry asreed to give the entire quirements of diesel during the coming Rabi foreign exchange at one ~ but the season; and 1S Oral Answers NOVfMBER 24, 1987 Oral Answers 16

(b) if so, what steps are beins taken to any complaint in this regard. We are making oven:ome those dilficulties 1 • efforts to see that no such complaint is made in future. THE MINISTEROF STATE OFTHE MINIS- TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NAn'RAt. GAS SHRI'IWASAH fB VI KH EPATIl: What will (SHRI BRAHMA DlJIT): (a) No ~r. be the quantity of indigenous oil and how much quantity of oil will be imported out of (b) Does not arise .. the total quantity of oil to be arranged by you , for the Rabi season? If it is being imported, (TtanrIationJ the time by which it will reach the country. I would like to know from the hone Minister as SHRI IWASAHEB VIKHE PATIl: Mr. to what quantity of oil will be imported and OeputySpeaker, Sir, I '-ave asked in my ques- what will be the quantity of indigenous pro- tion if there wi. be any difficulty in meeting dudion? the requRment ofdiesel during the Rabisea- son. Instead of giving its details, answer has SHRI BRAHMA DUTT: Sir, we will produce been given in the form of "No, Sir and does 16085 thousand tomes of high speed diesel not arise." There has been drought on a large from our ~ refineries and 1704 thousand scale in f!Ver( state of the country and the tonnes of oil will be imported. It will definitely drought is the severest In Rajasthan and meet the demand. Under ouf import policy Cujarat. Therefore, I would like to know from mostly we have long term contracts with the hone Minister about the quantity of diesel countries who have been supplying oil to us. and aude oil demanded by various states for We have made such arrangements that we the crops like wheat, rice and pulses? How may keep on getting oil regularly. We have much quantity of these items has been ar- also made arrangements with the railways for ranged by the Government? You are aware its proper distribution so that we may not en- - that large quantities of this oil will be needed counter any difficulty in this regard. We will during the coming three months. How are not let the peasantry of this country to face you gains to distribute it? When the demand any difficulty on this count. is more, this oil is sold at high prices. Has the Government made any arrangements to [English] ensure that this oil is not sold in black- market? If so, how much quantity of it has SHRI BIMAl KANTI CHOSH: I any satis- been stored? AIongwith it, I would also like to fied with the answer, and, therefore, I do not know the quantity of the oil demanded by want to ask any question. various states separately? News-item captioned IIJhirty.seven Stite StlRI BRAHMA DUTT: Sir, no demand is Units lose Is. 130 Crores" A!a!ived from States for high speed diesel + and also no quota is fixed separately tor .... -255. SHRI Y.S. MAHAJAN: It is our responsibility to see that the demand DR. B.L SHAILESH: of the whole country is fully met. We _e made provisiDns to meet the demand of the Will the Minister of IN DUSTRY be pleased 'whole country. Eamer we had estimated that to state: the coootry would require 17.31 million ton- nesduring the year. But later on we estimated (a) whether the attention of Govemment that there wiD be a need of 17.46 million has been drawn to thenews-n:eancapbohed IDriiles. We have made full arrangements for ''Thirtyseven State units lose f~J •• 30 crores this. We have not so far received any request appeanng in the 'Economic T.mes' of 30 Oc- for die enhanced demand hm any state or tober, 1987; district. Whenever any such demand is received , we fulfill it No State has ever made (b) if so, the details thereof; 17. Oral AnSwet5 ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAJGI\) Oral Answel5 18

(d) the remedial measures taken by Gov- (b) and (c). Provisional and unaudited es- ernment in this regard? timates of production and profitability of 37 enterprises of the Department of Public En- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. terprises during the first six months of 1987- VENGAl RAO) (a): Yes, Sir. 88 vis-a-vis the corresponding period of last year show the following trends as in Tables I (b) to (d). A statement is given below. and II below

Production/Turnover estimates (I n crores of Rs.)

April-September April-September Percentage 1986-87 1987-88 growth

Engineering Umts 1565 1857 (+)19%

Non-Engineering Manufacturing Units 186 249 (+) 34%

Total 1751 2106 (+)20%

Consultancy ICon- tracting Umts 46 45

Estimates of profitability (I n crores of Rs.) • April-September April-September 1986-87 1987-88

Engineering Units (00li0) 20.4 (-) 56.5

Non-Engineering (..) 63.4 (-) 58.5 U,!its

Consultancy/Contracting (_) 11.7 (..... ) 18.2 Units

Overall (-) 95.5 (r) 133.2

The increase in loss from~. 95.S crores to flood/drought, inadequate power supply Rs. 133.2 crores is mainly due to additional etc. financial burden on account of wage revision/interim relief, natural calamities like (d) The measures taken by the Govern- 19 Oral Answets NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Oral Answen 20 ment to tone up the performance of the exceed the target of Rs. 40 crores profit in Public Sector Undertakings include peri- 1987-88. Other companies showing profits odical review of performance, interaction are MaNti Udyog, Hindustan Cables, Bharat with ~ user Departments/Ministries, Wagon, Praga Tools, Hlndustan Photo Films, sreater control on financial resources, NEPA and the National Industrial Develop- optimal utilisation of installed fadlities, ment Corporation. better cost control, better working capital management etc. I A significant improvement has also been SHRI Y. S. MA~.AjAN· The reply given by witnessed in the Mining and Allied Machin- the hone Minister shows that the increase in ery~ Corporation which has achieved a re- losses is due to a number of factors and one markable upward production over the past of them is on account of wage revision/ year. Yet the overall picture for public enter- interim relief. I would like to know what has prises under the Industry Ministry is not en- been the increase in the total wage bill during couraging. Just by the provisional results in the last six months which is supposed to be the first six months, because of the wage a reason for thiS loss. difficulty in the first six months, the bill has SHRI J. VENCAl RAO: On account of the come to nearly Rs. 35 crores. Public under- interim relief, the wage bill has increased takings are doing very well and no unit is nearly Rs. 35 crores for six months and Rs. 70 having any problem. crores for one year. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: The Minister SH RI Y5.MAHNAN: The statement of the has told that because of the payment of the hone Minister also shows that there has been interim relief there was loss. I am at a loss to improvement in the production. The produc- understand how could the payment of in- tion has increased to the extent of 19 per cent terim relief result in the pennanent loss in the in the case of engineering units and 34 per public sector. Why cannot you go into the cent in the case of non-engineering units and details and find out the reasons for such a still the financial losses are there as before. As loss? Is it mainly because of the mis-manage- the statement says, they are now paying ment of the industry or due to the lack of greater attention to control on financial re- proper coordination in this sector? I would sources, optimal utilization of installed facili- like to ask whether you will take any step to ties, better cost control, better working capi ... coordinate the workers, the management tal management etc. All these are functions of and the user for the purpose of having a the management. How can the management periodical review of these industries and take these measures when a number of units bringing it to the notice of this august House? have been toplessl There are perhaps 30 to Are you thinking in terms of having such a 40 undertakings without top officer, that is machinery? the Managing Director. It is the Managing Di- rector, who is responsible to look after all SHRI J. VENCAl RAO: Sir, in the last con- these aspects. I would like to know how sultative committee meeting of my Depart- many enterprises are topless and what do the ment, I gave a full picture ofthe Public Under- Government propose to do in these cases? takings. The Hon. Members's suggestion is a good suggestion. We will appoint a Commit- tee which will go into all these things SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: The hone Member's question IS based on the net.'S items in the Economic Times. While the first part men- DR. ~UPASINDHU SHO.: Sir, in reply to tions about losses, etc., the second part of my hon.friend Shri Mahajan's question, the that news item says that there are some Minister has said the same thing that is con- patches of brightness. The giant Bharat tained in the Economic Times. He has not Heavy Electricals Ud. continues to make answered as to how many Public Undertak- profits, estimated at Rs. 31 crores during the inp are topless, that is without Managing first hal of this year. At this rate, it is all set to Directors and Chairmen. That is exactly what 21 Oral Answers ACRAHAYANA· 3, 1909 (SAKA) Dial AnswetS 22 we wanted to know. I would like to know desip is completed and the cOmmercial what is the diftiaJlty in processins the matter production is started. and get the right men at the right placet In the same report, it is stated that·the (b) and (c). There is no proposal, at pres- EPIt, one organisation, has sustained cumu- ent, under consideration for import of identi- lative losses during the-last 2 years. But since cal kits from any French Multinational Corpo- the performance of this organisation in the ration. last 2 years is quite masnificient, will the Minister reconsider the case and put it before SHRI HANNAN MOLlAH: The statement . the Cabinet Committee to reconsider it so has not given a clear picture. Sir, this is a very that EPIL should not be closed down? excellent step towards the development of tele-communication.

SHRIJ. VENGALRAO: I have tried my level In regard to the C-OOT system, it has best not to close this EPI Lunit. It had incurred been openly said that the Govemment has heavy losses due to the war in Kuwait and already entered into a contract and that a very I ran. I pleaded before the Cabinet also not to strong lobby is trying to persuade them to close it but the Cabinet decided to dose it enter into a Contract with the French Multi- down. I cannot do anything. national Corporation. If it is wrqng, the Minister should openly contradict it but he (/nterruptidr,s) has not done it. He said that at present there Import of Electronic Switching System is no proposal. I would like to know whether from France some such proposal has been pursued, discussed and some action has been taken on it and whether the Department of Tele-com· ·256. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: Will the munication is going to import it from other Minister ofCOMMUNICAliONS be pleased foreign companies? to state: SHRI SONTO~H MOHAN OEV: Sir, I fully (a) whether the Centre for Development agree with the hone Member that C-OOT of lelematics (C-DOT) has developed an which is having three hundred Engineers is electronic switching system (ESS) which doing extremely good work and there is no ~ould cost only Rs. 4,000 and can handle proposal at present with us to import any 16,000 fines; equipment from CIT ALCATEL This is a wrong infonnation which has been given in (b) if so, whether the move to import the press. Originally when there was a c0l- dentical kit from French multinational corpo- laboration with CIT ALCATEL fOuryears back, ration at a higher rate will be dropped imme- two lakh lines were imported. They are al· diately; and ready in the national network. At present there is no such proposal. We are having our (c) If not, the reasons thereof in detail? in-house production in Mankapur and production is going as per schedule. We are THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- trying to get the feedback from C·OOT about TRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SON .. their exchange which is in the process of TOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) to (cl. Astatement installation in Bangalore, in a place called is given below. Uisoor. We are going to take their product when they are commercially produced. STATEMENT SHRI HANNAN MOLlAH: The Covem- (a) The C-DOT Switching System ca- ment has proposed that within this century pable of handling upto 16,000 ports is under they will install thirty million telephones. To development by the C.. OOT. Firm indications reach that target within this period, what are of the cost per line would be known after the the systems so far developed by C·OOTi and 13 Oral J\nswetS NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Oral Answers 24 when all these systems will come into pro- the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL duction and whether the Government will be GAS be pleased to state: able to reach the target of thirty million telephones by that time? (a) the achievements made by the Oil and Natural Gas Commission so far in the ex- Secondly, the employees of the Industry ploration of oil and gas in desert areas of in the Communication Department are very Rajasthan; much afraid and anxious about the effort of the Government because such a big pro- (b) whether ONGe has provided addi- gramme is there in front of the Government tional drilling equipment for these desert that a lot of imports will be matte in the areas; course of thiS time and the future of thirty thousand employees is in danger. I want to (c) if not, when the Commission will pro- know whether the employees have submIt- vide additional drilling equipment for these ted any memorandum to the Pnme MInister areas to expedite the drilling work; and and whether the Government has considered that, and, if so, what is the result? (d) the programmes to be undertaken during 1987-88 in this regard? SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: Sir, C- DOT has made one EPBX '128 Import Ex- [English) change and now licences have been given to fifteen firms to produce this. There is also one THEMINISTEROFSTATEOFTHE MINIS- 122 small exchange for rural area. In Kittur TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS and Churagh two exchanges are working and (SHRI BRAHMA DUTI): (a). ONCC had dis- our ITI sector is going to produce one lakh covered 2 gas fields in Rajasthan namely~ lines. From 1988-89, they are going to pro- Manhera Tibba and Chotaru. duce fifty thousand lines. (b) and (c). ONce propose to add one As regards the original question, I had more rag dUring the current finanCial year. already told that this has not yet been started. They are now having it tested by installing a (d). During 1987-88, ONCC propose to proto-type. conduct about 1375 kilometres of seismiC survey and drin 4 wens. As regards the other question, there is no question of having any unemployment be- [Trans/ation] cause ESS-2 will be in Bangalore and in due course, we are also thinking of updating the SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: Mr. Dep- Rae Bareli factory also uty Speaker, Sir, the work of exploration and drilling has been going on 10 Jaiselmer for the last 4 years. Only one rig has been put to use. Yes t we have recelv~d I •• e Memorandum from various employees and we have assured The Minister has just stated in his reply that them that we shall see that diversification of It is proposed to instal one more rig during other products will ~ taken in this sector and the current financial year. I would like to there will be no question of unemployment. know what kind of rig is to be set up and when? Secondly, there is a proposal to dig 4 wells. I would like to know in this connection [Translation] when these will be dug and which are the places where these wells will be dug? AdtieYement in Oil and Cas exploration by ONGC in Rajasthan. SHRI BRAHMA,OUn: Sir, there were certain bottlenecks in this regard. As the hon. *257. SHRlV1RDHI CHANDERJAIN:WiII Member is aware, it is a·border area as well as 25 Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAKA) Oral Answers 26

the desert area. We did not get permission for [Translation) construction of road which is required for the movement of ordinary rig. Therefore, we SHRI C.S. MISHRA: Will arrangements be have asked the B. H. E. L to make a special made to transport the rig there by helicopter? type of rig which will suit the desert areas and Will same arrangements be made for Rajast- for which there wRI be no need to construct han and Madhya Pradesh also? ' roads. We hope that the special type of rig will be made available to us within one or two SHRI BRAHMA DL!TI,': Sir, when months. Therefore, I had replied that we will Rajasthan's turn will'c6me, action will be instal this rig there by the end of the financial taken as required. Rig will not be transported year. We will be installing it on the present by helicopter. Madhya Pradesh's tum is not structure. coming now. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: How the [English] gas that has been found In Manhera, Tibba and Ghotaru IS proposed to be used clnd how much of gas has been found there? Supply of Gas to Industrial Units from Krishna-Godavari Basin SHRI BRAHMA Dun: Presently, we can extract 50 tI tOusand 'Cubic meter of gas daily *258. SHRI SRIHARI RAO: from Manhera and Tibba, and we have asked SHRt A.J.V.B. MAHESWARA RAO: the Rajasthan State Electricity Board to set up a gas-based thermal power unit there. They Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND have proposed a three megawatt unit which NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: can be run by it. We are holding talks in thiS regard. As soon as the talks are concluded, (a) the time by which gas ;s likely to be they will be supplied gas. The gas found in supplied to the Industrial unrts from Krishna- Ghotaru contains 0 13 per cent of hillium and Godavari basm m Andhra Pradesh; the O.N.C.C. are making efforts to extract hillrum from It. It IS a useful gas. (b) the total quantity of gas which can be obtamed from thiS area; and SHRI C.S. MISHRA: Through you, I would like to say that gas has been located in three (c) the mdustrles selected for supply of places In Madhya Pradesh where drilling is to gas, the details thereof? be made. Will helicopters be used .... THE ~1INISTER OF STATE OF THE MINIS- (Interruptions) TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTI): (a) Gas supplies to [English} industrial units in Andhra Pradesh are expected to commence by the end of this calen- MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: The question is dar year. about Rajasthan, not about Madhya Pradesh. (b) During the Extended Production Test- [Trans/atlon] ing Period, ONCe expect to produce about 1.5lakh cubic metres per day ot gas trom the SHRI G.S. MISHRA: fonnation is the four gas bearing wells at Narsapur IRazol in same. Krishna-Godavari Basin.

(c) Contracts have been signed with the [English] following fIVe consumers for supply of 63,000 MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: That way Orissa cubic metres of ~as per day:- also can be connected. (i) A.P. Bagassa Project ltd. 27 Or.J Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Oral Answm 28

(I) Delta Paper Mills Ud. TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL CAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) and (b) Atempo- (iii) Coastal A8fo Industrial Complex Pvt. rary shortage has developed of late in supply Ud. of LPG refills in certain parts of Delhi with the delay in actual supply to consumers ranging (iv) Gowthami Solvent Oil Pvt. Ud. upto 11 days in some cases. This has mainly been due to reasons such as unptanned (v) Andhra Sugars Ud. shut-downs at two Refineries, problem in movement of the product from Mathura SHRI SRIHARI RAO: Mr. Deputy Speaker caused by a flash strike by transporters, panic Sir, I want to know from the hon. Minister booking for refills in Delhi and overall short- whether there is any plan to supply cooking fall in the bulk availability of LPG. The steps gas through a pipeline to the consumers in already takenI to ease these immediate con- the East Godavari District. straints are expected to lead to improvement in the LPG situation in the next few weeks. SHRI BRAHMA DUTT: There may be a Besides, action is also being taken on long- possibility. It is being examined. tenn basis to augment availability of LPG and bottling capacity in the country. SHRI SRIHARI RAO: In Rajahmundry, there is a paper mill and there are other big SHRI PRAKASH CHANDRA: Mr. Deputy industries also. The Godavari Fertilizers and Speaker, Sir, what are the reasons for the un- other industries are located in Kakinada. Is planned shut-downs of the refineries? What there any plan to supply the gas to these in- are the long-term measures the Government dustries without any air pollution? propose to take?

SHRI BRAHMA DUTI: We are trying to SHRI BRAHMA Dun: Weare getting bulk locate more consumers. I have got ten of the LPG from Mathura and Koyali. In names with whom we are having talks. We Mathura, there was a planned shut down wiI welcome if the _consumelS come frpm 26th September to 29th October. But the schedule was exceeded by about a week. forward to use this facility. I think that the Again, there was some unplanned shutdown prospects are good here. due to some technical reasons from 5th SHORT NOTICE QUESTION November to 8th November. In Koyali, the production was also not there for a few days Shortage of LPG in Delhi due to technical reasons. As regards long. S.N.Q. 1 SHRI PRAKASH CHANDRA: Will tenn measures, we are planning three or four the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAl things. We are trying to augment the produc- GAS be pleased to state: tion of LPG from the existing refineries. We are also putting up a plant for LPG extraction (a) whether there is a short supply of LP , at Hazira.ltwill come up in January, 1988. In Gas these days in Delhi and the consumers 1991-92 also, we are expecting a plant at are not getting their gas cylinders re-filled Bijaipur, in Madhya Pradesh. It will give us eYen after two to three weeks of placing the additional 4.5 lakh tonnes of LPG per annum. order, and Besides this, we are creating import facilities at Haldia and Hazira because we have now (b) ifso, the reasons for this short supply got only two ports Bombay and Vizag- and what remedial steps Government pro- where the capacity to receive the imported pose to take to remove the shortage of gas LPC is limited. These are the 3-4 steps which supply in Delhi as well as in other parts of the we are taking. I think, this will improve the country? situation in the long run.

THEMINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINIs.. SHRI PRAKASH CHANDRA: Mr. Deputy 29 Oral Answell ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 30

Speaker, Sir, t want to know from the hone WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS Minister whether the Govemment will take (Trans/ation1 over the transportation of LPG in its own Casua) labouren in Posts and Tele. hand so that there may a smooth nlove- be communications DeparbnentI ment and supply of, cylinders to the.corasum- ers and also in future the consumers may not ·248. SHRI BAlWANT SINGH face any difficulty in getting the same? RAMOOWAUA' SHRJ JNDRAjJT CUPTA: SHRI BRAHMA DUn: It is a very contro-- versial question whether the situation will Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS improve by having our own transport. FIfSt oi be pleased to state: all, I don't agree with the idea.·lf the whole transportation is taken overby us, it will bnng (a) whether a Division Bench of the Su- a lot of botheration. preme Court has recently directed the Gov- ernment that casual labourers should also be SHRI AJAY MUSH RAN: An LPG Plant was treated at par with the regular labourers in recently inaugurated, although the ceremony respect of minimum wages and they should could not take place at Bitoni in Jabalpur be regularised at the earliest; district. It is very peculiar that Jabalpur and area around Jabalpur is still getting the LPG (b) if so, the steps taken to comply with from Baroda and other places ratherthan get- the directive; ting it from the plant which is in the district itself. I want to know from the hon. Minister (c) If not, the reasons to delay it now; and what arrangements would be made or have been made so far for giving gas to Jabalpur (d) the number of labourers benefited in- from Jabalpur Plant rather than from other dicating the names of the respective estab- places, because of the supply system being lishments and the nature of benefit given? defective, the non-supply and insufficient supply of gas being experienced in Jabalpur THE MINISTER Of COMMUNICATIONS area and area around Jabalpur. SHRI ARJUN SINGH: (a) Yes, Sir. According to the Judgement of the Supreme Court, the wages of casual labourers would be paid at SHRI BRAHMA DUn: The hon. Member rates equivalent to the minimum pay and has a query about the Jabalpur Plant. I will corresponding Deamess or Additional Allow- supply him the information because I will ance payable to regularly employed workers have to enquire. in the corresponding cadres. For casual employees, who are serving for more than a year, the Government was directed to pre- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr. Sahu. pare within 8 months a rational scheme for absorbing the~ as far as possible. The arrears of wages were to be paid within four month (Trans/arion ] from the date of judgement, i.e. 27.10.1987 ..

SHRI SHIV PRASAD SAHU: I will speak (b) and (c).The judgement in all its aspect after the question hour is over. There is one is under examInation. very important question. (d) ApprOXimately 5,000 casual labourers in the Department of Posts and 75,000 casual (Ens/ish] labourers in the Department of Telecom. are expected to be benefited by the judgement In MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No, no. I thought regard to minimum wages and payment of you wanted to ask a supplementary. arrears. 31 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers 32

[Eng/ish] (b) the number of applications processed, granted, reje$ted and pending, indus- Construction of Godowns in Kerala trywise?

·252. SHRI K.MOHA~DAS:WilltheMin ister of FOOD AND CIVIL' SUPPLIES be THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. pleased to state: VENGALA RAO) (a). Dunng the years 1984, 198!», 19bO and 1987 (as (J'~ 16.11.87) LUl, (a) whether the Kerala Civil Supplies Cor- 154, 269 and 135 applications respectively poration had requested for financial were received for the grant of Industrial li- assistance to construct godowns; and cences under the provisions of Industnes (Development and Regulation) Act, 1951 for (b) if so, the action taken In this regard? locations in the State of Tamil Nadu. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AF- FAIRSAND MINISTEROF FOODAND CIVIL .SUPPLlES(SHRI H.K.L BHAGAT): (a) No, Sir. (b) Statement I includingyearwise details of the number of apphcations on which In- (b) Does not arise. dustrial licences /Letters of I ntent were Industrial Licences for Tamil Nadu granted, and the number of applications rejected, or pending, IS given below. Statistics ·253. SHRI R. JEEVARATHINAM: Will the are maintained of Industrial licences/Letters Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state of Intent scheduled Industrywlse anda statement II indicating the number of IndustriAl (a) the number of industrial licences ap- Ucerll.O ':'etters of Intent issued during the plies for by Tamil Nadu during 1984-85, years 1984, 1985, 1986 and 1987 (up to Oc- 1985-86 and 1986-87; and tober) is given below.

STATEMENT·.

Year-wise details of the number of applications on which Industrial licences/Letters of intent· were granted, and the number of applications rejected or pending

YEAR INDUSTRIAL LETIERS REJECTED OTHER PENDING LICENCES OF INTENT DISPOSAL

1984 3 94 4 1

1985 1 56 81 16

1986 93 141 29 6

1987 58 25 9 43

(as on 16.11.87)

TOTAl 4 306 341 58 50 33 Written NJswen ACiRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Written AnsweIJ 34

STATEMENT·II

Scheduled Industry-wise breakup ofnumber of letters and industrial licences issued during the- yeats 1984 to 1987 (upto October) for setting up of Industries in Tamil Nadu

Scheduled IndlJstry 1984 1985 1986 1987 (upto Oct.)

lOI Il lOI Il lOI Il lOI Il

1. Metallurgical Industries 5 37 9 22 5 6 5 4

2. Fuels 1 1 1

3. Boilers & Steam Generating Plants 2

4. Prime Movers (other than electrical equipment) , 3 1 1

5. Electrical Equipments 19 6 19 3 20 7 20 9

6. Tele communicataons 6 2 10 3 5 3 1 3

7. Transportation 4 5 7 7 2 3 1

8. Industrial Machinery • 9 4 7 8 1 4 2

9. Machine Tools 2 1 2 2 10.Agriculture Machinery

11. Earth Moving Machinery

12.Misc. Mech. & Eng. Jndustries 1 3 1 6 13. Commercial Office & House- "hold Equipments 3 1 1

14.Medical & Sur- gical Appliances 1 1 2 1 35 ~itten Answers NO~ER24,1987 Written Answers 36'

Scheduled Industry 1984 1985 1986 1987 (uptoOct)

LOI It lOl I~ LOI Il LO. IL 15.lndustrial Instruments 1 2 2 2 2 3 2

16. Scientific Instruments

17.Mathematical Surveying &. Drawing Instru- ments

18. fertilizers 2 1

19.Chemicals (other than fert.) 12 7 13 6 17 11 11 4

20. Photographic Raw Film & Paper 1 1

21.Dye-Stuffs

22.Orug & Pharma- ceuticals 3 2 1 2 2

23.TediIe (ind. those dyed printed or otherwise processed) 6 6 9 117 19 10 13 1

24.Paper & Pulp (ind. paper products) 2 2

2S.Supr 2 3 1 3 13

26.Fennentation Indus. 1 1

27.Food Process- ing Indus. 3 1 1 6 5 1

28.Veg. Oils & Vanaspati 2

29.Soaps, Cosmet· ics at Toilet Preparations 37 WIiUen Amwell' ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Written AnsweIs 38

Scheduled Inciustl)' 1984 1985 1986 1987 (u~to Oct.}

LOI IL LOI Il lOI IL LO. IL 30.Rubber Goods 6 1 2 1 1 3 4

31.Leather, leat· her Goods & Pickers 1 10 11 3 9 2 13 3

32.Glue & Gelatin

33.GIass 1 1

34.Ceramics 2 1 2

3S.Cement & Gyps- um product 1 1 1

16.Timber Prod- ucts

37. Defence Indus- tries

38.Misc. Indust- ries 4 1

Total 89 85 110 177 104 61 93 36

Industrially bafkward Districts in Kerala tricts of Kerala have been Identified as centrally industrially backward districts: ·254. PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Will the Minis- ter of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: 'A' Category

(a) the names of industrial~' backward 1) Wynad districts in Kerala; 2) Idukki

(b) the total amount spent so far by Un- ion Government for developing them indus- 18' Category trially; 3) Alleppey (c) whether any industrial development 4) Cannaoore has taken place in those districts; and 5) Malapuram (d) if so, the details thereof? 'e' Category

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. 6) Trichur VENGAl RAO): (a) The following seven dis- 7) Trivandrum 39 Written AnSwelS NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written AnsweIS 40

(b) So far an amount Rs. 16.62 crores has neighbouring States like Punjab and been reimbursed as Central Investment Sub- Haryana; sidy to Kerala for setting up industries in (b) whether there was any programme of these backward districts. The year-wise the F. C.I. to construct/hire a storage cap~city breakup of the amount of subsidy given is as of 40,000 metric tonnes in Himachal follows: Pradesh; if so, when this programme was Rs/crores implemented; 1972-73 to 6.94 (c) the details of the Implementation of 1983·84 the programme and the names of the places 1984-85 4.34 where godowns have been constructed/ 1985-86 1.66 hired so far along with the capacity of each of 1986-87 2.70 them; and 1987 -88 0.98 (d) the time by which aforesaid godowns (Upto Oct.) will be constructed/hired as per the pro- te) and (d) The pace of industrial development in the backward districts of Kerala can gramme? be seen from the following number of letters THl: MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY of intent (lOI), industrial licences (ll) and AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND OGlO registrations issued by the Govern. CIVil SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT) (a) ment- As on 1.10.1987, the covered foodgrain storage capacity with the Food Corporation of Year lOI Jl I)GTO Registration India(FCI), owned and hired taken together, 1984 5 13 8 was 45.291akh tonnes in Punjab, 15.141akh 1985 18 15 13 tonnes 10 Haryana and 14,290 tonnes 111 1986 10 8 4 Hunachal Pradesh. 1987 5 3 7 (Upto·Sep.) (b) and (c) The fel has tentatively planned [Trans/ation] to construct a capacity of 30,840 tonnes at 8 centres in Himachal Pradesh, subject to f.C.L Storage Capacity in Himachal availability of SUitable land. Besides, the Cen- Pradesh tral Warehousing Corporation (CWC) has -259. SHRI JITENDRA PRASADA; win the also tentatively proposed to construct a Minister of FOOD AND CIVil SUPPllE~ be capacity of 16,000 tonnes at 4 r.entres in pleased to state: Himachal Pradesh of which 8,000 tonnes IS likely to be made available to FCI for storage (a) the foodgrains storage capacity in offoodgrains. The F.e.l. has not constructed metric tonnes created in Himachal Pradesh any storage capacity in Himachal Pradesh so by the food Corporation of India so far, as far. The centre-wise breakdown of its hired against the storage cap-..clty created in i~ capacity is given below .

SI. Centre Revenue DlStnct Capacity No. (in tonnes)

1 2 3 4

1. Solan Solan 300

2. Parwanoo Solan 6250

3. Bilaspur Bilaspur 250

4. Chamba Chamba 200 41 Written An5WelS AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 ~) Written Answen 42

1 2 3

5. 'Hamirpur Hamirpur 200 6. Jachh Kangra 3940 7. Kangra Kangra 570 8. Nagrota Kangra 1000 9. Kulu Kulu 300 10. Tapri Kinnaur 120 11. Mandi Mandi 350 12. Nahan Sirmour 410 13. Dhalli Shimla 400

Total: 14290 (d) The tentative schedule of construction of Fel and ewe at 4 of the total 12 centres is as follows:-

Agency Centre Tentative date ot completion 1 --2 3 F.C.1. Noorpur March, 1990 F.C I. Una March, 1990 ewe Solan December, 1988 ewe Mandi March, 1989

The schedule of construction at the remaining 8 centres would be drawn up subject to land at Identified Sites beang made availab,e by the State Government.

[English} (b) if so, the measures taken by the State Governments to improve the public distribu- Loans to drought affected States for tion system; Public Distribution System .. (c) how many drought affected States *260. SHRI S.B. SIDNAl were provided loans by the banks to improve SHRIMATI BASAVARAjESWARI: the public distribution system;

Will the Minister of fOOD AND CIVil (d) whether any Central assistance also SUPPLIES be pleased to state: has been provided to the affected States; and

(a) whether he had urged the drought af- (e) if so, to what extent? fected States to expand public distribution system by taking loans from the banks; THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AnSwelS 43 Written NOVEMBER 24. 1987 Written AnSwetS

AFf~RS AND MINISTER Of FOOD AND (a) whether it is proposed to reduce the CIVIL SUPPUfS (SHRt H.K.L BHAGATI: (a) cost of soft coke for the benetit of ultimate to (e~ Central government has given advice users to encourage its maximum use in order to the States that they should help fair price to protect the environment; and shops in obtaining credit facilities from commercial banks and other institutions. State (b) if so) Government's plan in this re- Govemments have opened additional fair gard? price shops and have also intensified enforcement measures to prevent diversion of THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VAS- Public Distribution System commodities to ANT SATHE): (a) and (b). The pithead price of unauthorised channels. soft coke used for domestic consumption is already fixed below its cost of production. The credit facility to the fair price shops is There is no proposal to reduce it further. classified as priority sector advance. Separate data relating to the credit facility extended to the fair price shops are not maintained by the Production of Crude Oil Reserve Bank of I ndia/Commercial Banks. • 262.SHRI KRISHNA SINGH: Central assistance has been given for DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOt: strengthening PDS in the form of extra allocation of PDS items and financial assistance for Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND buying mobile.vans, as indicated below: NATURAL CAS be pleased to state:

Additional allocation of wheat and rice to (a) whether the total production of crude oil the extent of 10.59 lakh tonnes has been in the half year ending September, 1987 was given to States affected by drought, flood over 20 per cent more than the planned etc., during the period July to November, target; 1987. Allocation of edible oils has been increased from 70,000 MTs in July, to about (b) If so, what was the actual production 2.00 lakh MTs in October and November, and the target fixed for the same; 1987. Allocation of sugar has been increased to 8.57 lakh tonnes in September-October (c) the factors which contributed to the 1987 as against 7.62 lakh tonnes in August higher production and the likely production 1987. during the whole year as against the target fixed for the purpose; Def¥rtment of Civil Supplies has also provided financial assistance to the States of (d) how far it is expected to meet the Andhra Pradesh, Himachal Pradesh, Kama- country's requirements; .and taka, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesh, Chandigarh and Orissa during (e) the total quantity that would be re- 1987-88 to the tune of Rs. 182.50 lakhs for quired to be Imported and the foreign ex- the purchase of 73 vans to be operated as change likely to be spent thereon during the mobile fair price shops. Besides a sum of Rs. current year? 50 lakhs has also been provided to States/ UT s for strengthening the Cooperative out- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINIS- lets in the rural areas during the current year. TRY Of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL CAS (SHRI BRAHMADUTT): (a) to (c). Production Reduction in Cost of Soft Coke of crude oil during first six months of the current year was 15.18 million tonnes as • 261.SHRI AJOY BISWAS: Will the Minis- against 14.86 million tonnes planned. The ter of ENERGY be pleased to state target for crude production for current year is 45 Written AnswelS AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SMI\) Written AnlWetS 46

30.46 million tonnes which is expected to be stabilisation and smooth functioning of the achieved. thermal units.

(d) About 63 per cent. Expert Committee on SimplifICation of (e) During the year 1987-88, 18.34 mil- Rules and Procedures pertainins to Small lion tonnes of crude oil is likely to be im- Scale Industries 'ported at an estimated cost of Rs. 3175 crores. . • 264.SHRI M.V. CHANDRASHEKARA MURTHY: Sources of Energy SHII BANWARI LAl PUROHIT

• 263 SHRI PRATAPRAO B. BHOSALE: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be ple~ Will the minister of ENERGY be pleased to to state: state: (a) whether Covernment have consid- (a) the present sources of energy in the ered the recommendations of the expert country; committee on simplification of various rules and procedures pertaining to the small scale (b) the names of sources of energy to be industries; mobilised to meet the growing requirement of energy by 2004 A.D.; and (b) if so, the details thereof and what changes Government propose to make in the (c) w~ steps Government propose to rules and procedures; and take to increase the generating capacity of existing thennal generating units? (c) to what extent the small scale industries in the country will be benefited?

THE MINISTER FOR ENERGY (SHRI VAS- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. ANT SATH E): (a) The main sources of energy VENGAL RAO): (a) to (c). A statement is in the country at present are coal, oil, natural given below. gas, hydro-electric power, nuclear power, toal based thermal power, fuel wood, animal STATEMENT dung, agricultural waste and draught animal power. Non-conventional sources of energy 1. A Working Group under the Chair- such as solar energy and wind energy are also manship of the President of Federation of As- being mobilised. sociation of Small Scale Industries in India (FASt I) was set up in January, 1986 to find out ~b) Both conventional and non-conven- ways and means to reduce the number of tional sources of energy will continue to be visits of I nspectors to small scale units and to utilised to meet the requirement of energy. recommend measures for redUcing procedures and formalities. (c) The steps being taken to improve the perfonnance of the thermal units include im- 2. The Croup maionly recommended (i) plementation of a Centrally sponsored reno- attitudinal orientation of inspectors, (ii) leni- vation and modernisation programme, as- ency in the application of laws, (iii) prior sistance to State Electricity Boards in pro- intimation of visits by inspectors, (iv) general curement of requisite quality and quantity of reduction in the number of visits of inspec- coal, training of power station personnel in tors from various authorities, ;ncJudjn~ Ex- operation and maintenance techniques, and cise, Banking and financial institutions, (v) re- visits to power stations by Roving Tearns ~nd duction in the number of forms and returns , Task forces of eiperts to assist in the earty (vi) a higher excise exemption limit for small 47 Written AnsweIS NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written AnswetS 48

scale industries, and (vii) fotmation of a offorms required to be filled in and records to separate committee for the purposes of be maintained by an entrepreneur after going studying the subject of pollution control into production, and tnuggest measurers to vis-a-,vis the SSL sector. reduce their number/devise a common form t~ meet the requirements of concerned agen- CIeS. The report of this committee is awaited. 3. Instructions have been issued regu- lating the visits of Excise Inspectors to once a 7. A separate committee to review the year, with due permission. Taxpayet5 Assis- foons for provisional/permanent SSI tance units have been setup at various levels. used registration has also been set up. The fonns Certain procedural relaxations have been suggested by the Committee have been ex- given to SSI units, (i) in the submission of amined and suitable modifications are under price list of excisable goods, (ii) in the demar- consideration prior to acceptance for adop- cation of areas within the factory premises, tion. (iii) -by w~y of summary assessment of monthly returns in the case of small scale units whose turnover does not exceed Rs. 50 Dispute Between Coal India Ltd. and Iakhs and (iv) consideration of private pro- Government of Bihar Over Coal Royalty duction records in lieu of statutory registers. The exemption limit has been extended to small scale units having a turnover upto Rs. ·265. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: Will 15lakhs and upto 30 lakhs in the case ofunits the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: manufclcturing more than one article falling under different tariff headings. (a) whether there is dispute between the Coal India Ud., Dhanbad and the Govern- 4.. The Government has introduced in ment of Bihar over the issue of coal royalty; the Lok Sabha ''The labour laws (Exemption (b) if so, the details thereof; and from Furnishing Returns and Maintaining Registers by Certain Establishments) Bill, (e) whether any steps have been taken to 1987" to provide for exemption to employ- resolve the dispute? ers in relation to establishments employing a THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VAS- sma" number of persons from fumishing returns and maintaining registers under cer- ANT SATHE): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. Sharat tain "labour laws". The Bill is before the Par- Coking Coal Umited, Dhanbad has taken up with State Government certain issues relat- iament. ing to assessment of royalty. The State authorities are insisting that royalty should be 5. The Reserve Bank of India have issued paid by the company on the basis of declared detailed guidelines to the Banking and finan- grades ignoring slippages in grades actually cial institutions to provide for better coprdi- ocruning. The other issue is regarding the nation between Commercial Banks and ~ demand for royalty on book stocks written off State Financial Corporations in the provision as a resuk of physical verification. of financial assistance to small scale industries. The Government has commended to (c) The details of the above issues have the Banking InstitutionS that visit by bank been furnished by the Company to the con- officials to SSI units may be by prior appoint- cerned authorities of the State Government ment and at higher levels with due authorisa- ar.d are dlso being followed up regularly at tion. the appropriate level for settlement.

6. A committee was set up under the Mini Power Pbnts with Foreign Assis- Chainnanship of President of FASII to look tance in Karnataka into the problems of filling of several forms before a small scale industrial unit actually • 266.SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will the goes into production and also simplification Minister of ENERGY be pleased to !tate: 41 ACRAHAVANA 3, 1909 (SAIV\) Written Answers SO

(a) whether Kamataka Government has dard and good quality medicines. The Under- sought Union Covernment's approval for the taking has taken immediate action in all spe- establishment of four mini power plants with cific instances ofsupply of substandard medi- foreign assistance; cines. The action taken includes stoppage of issue of the allegedly sub-standard/poor (I~) ifso, when the proposal was sent; and quality medicines, withholding payments for supplies, cancellation of orders, debarring (c) when Union Government propose to the suppliers from business with DESU, re- -give their approval to the project? ferring the cases to the Drug Controller, Delhi Administration, and getting replacement of supplies. Investigations are also made to fix the responsibility of any em- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE· ployee of the Undertaking. PARTMENT Of POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA Represent~tion of Employees of Bhar~t ROHATGI): (a) to (c). A proposal was re- Coking Cui Umited, Dhanbad ceived from the Kamataka Government in 1985 regarding installation of diesel generat- 2502. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Will the ing sets at four places in the State. The Cen- Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: tral Government has approved the proposal in February, 1987. The State authorities have (a) whether the employees of Bharat also been advised that free foreign exchange Coking CoaJ Umited, Dhanbad having made would be released for import of the eqUip- representations regarding several grievances ment. to the Chief Executive of S.C.C. Umited (Bihar); Alleged Make Medicines in DESU Medical Stores (b) whether these grievances relate to the standing orders under Mines Act and • 267.SHRI KAMAL NATH: Willthe Minis- Industrial Disputes Act; ter of ENERL"Y be pleased to state: (c) If so, the details of their grievances; (a) whether Government have seen the and reports about the issue of fake or time ex· pired medicines to patients from the DESU (d) the steps taken to resolve the dis- Medical Stores; pute?

(b) ifso, whether an enquiry in this regard THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VAS- has been undertaken; and ANT SATHE): (a to (c). Yes, Sir. The employees of the BCCl submit their grievances from (c) if so, the outcome of the enquiry and time to time to their superior authorities at the action taken against those found guilty the colliery, area and company levels, includ .. and steps taken to streamline the purchase ing the CMD of the company. The grievances and issue system 7 do not always specifically relate to violation of any provision of law under the Industrial THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- Employment (Standing Orders) Act, Mines PARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY Act and Industrial Dispute Act. They generally Of ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA relate to matters, like, provision of employ- ROHTACI): (a) Yes, Sir. ment to dependants, faster promotiona' op- portunities, transfers, payment of compensa- (b) and (c). According to the Delhi Electric tion, gratuity, delay in payment of l TC etc. Supply Undertaking, they have an estab- They also sometime relate to the conditions lished procedure fDr procurement of stan· at the place of work, living conditions and 51 NOW._R 24, 1987 52

amenities in miners' colonies/Dhowras and VIIit by lade cl medical and educational facilities etc. DirectorfonIIer_ of Cycle Corporation of India (d) The BCC~ like any other coal com- Ltd. to Katha ...... pany, has well established procedure to redress the 8ri~ances of i~ employees. 2504. SHRt PURNA CHANDRA MAUle: WorketS are intimated about their represen- Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to tation either verballY or in writing. Some- state: times, grievances are also resolved through discussions with the concerned Unions. Oc .. (a) whether it is a fact that in March 1984, casionally, disputes are raised by the Unions the then Chainnan~m-Managing Director under the Industrial Disputes Act before the of Cycle Corporation of India Umited had Central I ndustrial Relations machinery, in· visited Kathmandu along with a group of cluding Tribunals and otherforums provided persons; underthe law. The effort of the manasement remains, all along, to settle the disputes by (b) ifso, whether the visit was of6cial; and peaceful means through negotiations and discussions. (c) where the CMD and his group stayed and who paid the bill? loss in IrrepIIar Sales by Cycle Corpora- tion of India Ltd. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHkl J. VENGALA RAO): (a) to (c). According to rec- 2503. UR. SUOHIR ROY: Will the Minister ords available with the company, a.dealer has of IN OUSTRY be pleased to state: preferred claims for the alleged visit of the then Chainnan-cum-Managing Director of (a) whether Govemment are dware of Cycle Corporation of India ltd. along with a the loss incurred by the Cycle Corporation of group of persons to Kathmandu in March, Indiaasa result of irregular deals in cycles, ac .. 1984 and their stay in hotel Soakee Oberoi. cessories" and scraps; No records are available to indicate whether the visit was official.

(b) if so, the total loss suffered on this Uses Disposed of by MRTP Commission account since nationalisation till date: 2505. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: Will the (c) the action taken against guilty per- Minister of I NDUSTRY be pleased to state: sons and parties; and (a) the number of cases disposed of by the Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Practices (d) other corrective steps taken? Commission in the last three years;

THE MINISTER Ot STATE IN THE DE- (b) the number of cases pending before PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- the Commission; MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to (d). Cer- (c) out of the pending cases which class of tain instances ofallesed irregularities in deals cases are the most; and of cycles, accessories and scraps have been brought to the noticp. of the company man- (d) the number of ca;es in which common agement by the Audit. It is not possible to man has been benefited in the last three precisely assess the losses suffered on this years? account. The company has initiated steps to recover the outstanding dues from the de- THE MINISTER Of STATE IN THE DEa faultins parties and to improve the marketing PARTMENT Of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- system. MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY 53 ACiMHAYANA 3, 1909 ~) Written AnsweIs 54

(SHRI M. ARUNAC;iAlAM): (a). During the I'he new guidelines provide: (i) acquisi- period 1.1.85 to 31.10.87, the MRTP Com- tion of valuable agricultural land, especiaIy mission disposed of 2957 cases relating to wet land, forest land or ecoi0gicaliy fraaile Restrictive and Unfair Trade Practices. land is to be avoided; (ii) with a view to avoid acquisition cAlandfar in ~cess of the require- (b) As on 31.10.1987, 3327 such cases ments, the f!roject Authorities have to dearly were pending before the Commission. indicate the minimum quantum of land required for setting up the project ... with (c) Of the pending cases lS on 31st Octo- detailed justification; (iii) the requirement of ber, 1987, the cases relating to Restrictive land for expansion in the foreseeable future Trade Practices are more than the cases of at best be 25% of the land requirement in the Unfair Trade Practices. initial project; (iv) streamlining of the procedures for payment of compensation Within a (d) All the cases decided by the Commis- reasonable time; (v) setting up of a Rehabili- sion in the last tnree years have directly or tation Cell by each Land Acquisition Unit for indirectly benef.ted the common man. identifying the persons who are to be treated as dispossessed persons; (vi) withdrawal of any understanding, formal or informal, in New Norms on UncI Acquisition .regatd to offer of employment to one member of every dispossessed family in the proj- 2506. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAR- ect with a view to guard against the contin- ASHAR: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be gency of ovennanning of enterprises and also pleased to state: to see- the public sector enterprises operate on commercially viable level and are able to (a) Whether the attention of Govern- generate internal resources. ment has. been invited to the news item captioned "Government sets new norms on Import of Penicillin V land acquisition" published in the Business Standard, Calcutta dated 6 April, 1987 stating 2507. SHRI JANAK RAJ CUPTA: Will the that the attempt to evolve a unifonn pattern Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: with regard to compensation, rehabilitation and employment proposed to begiven to the (a) the difference in the machinery and displaced in the event of their land persons process for manufacturing 6 APA from Peni- being acquired, the land acquisition is likely cillin Gand Penicillin Vby enzymatic process; to be subjected to further delays; (b) the role of the Department of Chemi- (b) if so, the exact norms and guidelines cals and Petrochemicals in according clear- laid down in this regard; and ance for import of Penicillin-V;

(c) the steps proposed to ensure that the (c) whether this Department or any projects are notsubiected to inordinate delay other authority has restricted the manufac- on this score? turing of 6 APA by usIng a particular grade of Penicillin; and THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENCALA RAO): (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. With a (d) the reaction of Government in this view, not only to bring in unifonnity in ap- regard? proach with regard to acquisition of land for setting up of projects, but also to alleviate the TUE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- difficulties faced by the dispossessed per- PARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETRO- sons, Govemment considered the various CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY OF INOUS. . aspects involved and issued fresh guidelines TRY: (SHRI R.K. JAICHANDRA SINGH: (a) In in March 1986. the production of 6 API\, chemicals, type of . 55 Written NJsWeIS NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written AnSMIS 56

enzymes, process parameters etc. would as key consumers have defaulted in their depend upon starting raw material as well as offtake; the technoiosy. These factors would in tum , detennine the design of plant and equip- (b) whether almost all key sectors like ment. steel, power, railway, cement units and fertil- izer plants have slowed down coal offtake·, (b) While allowing imports of any item for drug manufacturing, recommendations of (c) if so, the details in this regard; and various departments including this Depart- ment are taken into consideration. (d) the reaction of Government in such circumstances? (c) and (d) As per the policy or Govem- ment, units using Penicillin G are allowed to import only PeniciUin C and no shifting to THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRt VAS-- ANT SATH E): (a) No, Sir. The All India Penicillin V is allowed" pithead stock of coal which stood at the level Unsold pithead stocks with Coal of 28.83 m.t. at the beginning of the rurrent eom.,.,.ies financial year has come down to 22.44 m.t. (ProvISional) as on 31.10.87 as a result of 2508. SHRI R.M. BHOVE: increased offtake. SH.RI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH: (b) to (d) The offtake of coal by different consuming sectors during the period April to Will the Minister of EN ERGY be pleased to October'87IS 96.88 million tonnes as against slate: 89.03 m.t. dunng the corresponding period of the prevIous year; thus registering a (a) whether unsold pithead stocks with growth of 8.81%. The details of sectOlWise coal companies have reached a record level despatches are given below: (Figs. In million tonnes)

Sector Offtake of coal April-October 1987-88 1986-87

1. Power Utility 44.67 (i) Raw Coal 51.13 (1.16) (ii) Washery Middl. (1.07) 13.20 2. Steel 13.05

4.59 Loco 4.26 3. 4.73 4. Cement 4.72 2.50 5. fertilizers 2.25 1.05 6. Soft coke making 1.03 0.06 7. Export 0.07 15.88 8. Brick Kilns and others 18.09 2.35 9. Colliery consumption 2.28

96.88 -89.03 (1.07) ll.16) (Figs. in bracket andlcate middlings.) 57 Written Answen ACRAHA'(ANA 3, 1909 (~) Written Answers 58

from the above table it is seen that except ot such applications are not disclosed till a l forSteel, loco, Fertilizers Be Soft Coke, offtake final decision is taken on them. • by all other sectors has been higher this year (April-October) than in the corresponding Introduction of Speed Post Service period of last year. Efforts are continuing to further step up despatches to different coal 2510. SHRI SURESH KURUP: Will the consuming sectors. Minister of COMMUN ICA TIONS be pleased to state: Setting up of projects of Aluminium Coil, (a) the Statewise number and names of Polyethylene and Polystyrene and places where speed post service has already Magnesium Me~ been rntoduced;

2509. SHRI JAGANNATH PATTNAII<: Will (b) whether there IS any proposal to in· the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to troduce thrs service an more areas of different state: States dunng the current financial year, and

(a) whether a total investment of ~. 250 (c) If so. the names of the places where crore has been proposed by large compames thiS service IS to be antroduced and when;the tQ set up three projects In the fields ofalumln· details thereof? ium coils, polyethylene and polystyrene and magnesium metal; and THE MINISTER Of STATE IN THt MINIS- TRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SON· (b) ifso, thedetailsrega«hngthenamesof TOSHMOHAN DEV): (a). Details are given in compames Involved In It? the statement I below.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE· (b) and (c). Yes, Sir. Details are given in PARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETRO- Statement-II. Statement-II indicates the CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- various cities in diffprent states which are TRY (SHRI R.K. JAI CHANDRA SINGH): (a) only being examined to determine their and (b). As regards projects ;n the fields of suitability for the introduction of the SP~ Alumlmum Coils, Polyethylene, Polystyrene Post Service during the current finanCial and magnesium metal are concerned, some year. At this juncture no finn assurance can applications have been received bUt details be given in this regard.

STATEMENT-. Statewise Number and Names of Places where Speed Post Service already introduced is as Under:

Name of the State/ Number of Speed Names of the Speed Union Territory Post Centres Post Centres.

(1) (2) (3)

Andhra Pradesh 2 1. Vishakhapatnam 2 Hydarabad

Assam 2 1 Guwahatt 2 Silchar

Delhi 1 1 Deihl

Gujarat 3 59 Written AnsMft NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written AnsMft 60

i. 2 3 2. Vadodara 3. ~

Hluyana 1 1. Faridabad'-

Kamatab 1 1. Banplore

KeraIa 1 1. Cochin

Madhya 'Pradesh 1 1. Indore

Maharashtra 4 1. Bombay 2. NasPur 3. Pune 4. Thane·

Manipur 1 1. Imphal (from 18.11 87)

Rajasthan 1 1 Jaipur

Tamilnadu 3 1. Madras 2. COlm~tore 3 Hosur*

Tripura 1 1. AgartaJa

Uttar Pradesh 3 1. Kanpur 2. Ghaziabad· 3. Noida·

West Bengal 1 1. Calcutta.

At these places only outward articles tor speed post service are accepted and no delivery of such article is made.

STATEMENT...

Feasibility of introduction of speed post setVice in the following centres is being examined:

Name ot the State/Union I emtory Name of the Centre

1 2

Bihar Patna

Jammu & Kashmir Srinagar

KeraJa Trivandrum

Kamataka Mangalore 61 ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SM;\)

1 2 Madhya Pradesh Cwalior

Meghalaya

Orissa 1.Bhubaneswar 2.Cuttack U.P. Agra

Tamil Nadu 1.Trichy

2.Madurai

3. Salem

Chandigarh Chandiprtl.

{Translation} [English}

Electrification of VIIIap in larabanki and Allocation of Essential ComModities 10 Sitapur Districts, u.p. Slates

2511.SHRI KAMALA PARASAD RAWAT: 2512. SHRI R.P. DAS: Will the Minister Will the MinISter of ENERGY be pleased to of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased state: to state:

(a) the number of Village in the districts (a) the demand for foodgrains, including of Barabankl and Sitapur of Uttar Pradesh rice, wheat, mustard oil, salt and sugar proposed to be electrified during the during 1987-88, State-wise; current Five Year Plan; (b) the allocation by the Centre, State- (b) the number of villages so far wIse; and electrified; and (c) the quantity actually made available (c) the number of villages for whlen to each State during this period? demand for electrification has been • made by the people? THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVil SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K.L8HAGAT): (a) Statement·' indicating State-wise demand THE MJNISTER OF STATE IN THE DE .. of rice and wheat for the period April, 1987 PARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY to November, 1987 is given below. OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA RO- HTAGI): (a) to (c). It is targetted to electrify The monthly levy sugar quotas to 25170 village in Uttar Pradesh, during the StatemeM/UT 5 are allotted not on the Seventh Five Year Plan. District-wise targets States/UTs are allotted not on the basis of for rural electrifkation are fixed on a year to demands received from them but on t~ year basis by the State Electricity Board, uniform norm of per capita availability of keeping in view various factors including 425 grams per head per month for the the demand for the same. As per available projected population as on 1.10.1986. infonnation, the number of village electri .. fied in Barabanki and Sitapur districts of Ut- Mustard 011 and salt are not POS items tar Pradesh, as on 30.9.1987, is 838 and and hence no allocation is mad~ by the 895 respectively. Central Government. 63 Written AnsweIs NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers 64

(b) Statement-II indicating State-wise (c) The actual off-take of wheat and rice docation made by the Centre of rice, duri. the period foml April, 1987. to wheat and sugar for the period from April, September, 1987 is gIven In the (' tate~nt 1987 to November, 1987 is given below. III below.

STATEMENT-I

Demand of Rice and Wheat by various StatesjUTs for Public Distribution System from Central Pool during 1987-88 (April to November) In 'OOCYtonnes Code No. Name of the State/UT Rice Wheat 1 2 3 4 '01 Andhra Pradesh 1585.0 187.0

02 Arunachal Pradesh 55.5 7.8

03 Assam 496.0 566.0

04 Bihar 605.0 1340.0

05 Cujarat 280.0 540.0

06 Goa 35.2 13.5

07 Haryana 28.5 256.0

08 Himachal Pradesh 74.4 60.0

09 Jammu & Kashmir 184.5 103.5

10 Kamataka 480.0 170.0

11 Kerala 1500.0 175.0

12 Madhya Pradesh 250.0 400.0

13 Maharashtra 1010.0 770.0

14 Manipur 64.0 32.0

lS Meghalaya 116.0 16.0

16 Mlzoram 80.0 8.4

17 Nagaland 67.0 32.0

18 Onssa 230.0 184.0

19 Punjab 12.0 81.0

20 Rajasthan 18.0 500.0

21 Sikkim 36.0 2.0 65 Written AnswetS ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Written Answers 66

1 2 3 4

22 Tamil Nadu 850.0 240.0

23 Tripura 103.5 4.0

24 Uttar Pradesh 750.0 5850

25 West Bengal 1350.0 1100.0

26 A&N Islands 12.0 6.3

27 Chandigarh 4.0 14.4

28 D&N Haveli 2.5 1.1

29 Delhi 210.0 ~20.0

30 Daman & Oi" 1.95 0.36

31 lakshadweep 5.5 0.07

32 Pondicherry 16.25 2.4

Total 10512.80 7817.83

STATEMENT-II

Allocation of Rice, Wheat and Sugar to various States/VTs for Public Distribution System from Central Pool durinR 1987-88 (April to November) In '000' tonnes

Code Name of the State IUT Rice Wheat Sugar No.

1 2 j 4 .5,

01 Andhra Pradesh 765.0 168.0 201.2

02 ~nachalPradesh 48.5 11.2 2.5

03 Assam 350.0 291.2 76.9

04 Bihar 215.0 61~.O 267.7

05 GUJarat 265.0 ~80.0 129.6

06 Goa 32.0 14.8 4.0

07 Haryana 28.0 240.0 51.1

08 Himachal Pradesh 52.0 ,",0.0 16.1 67 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written AnswetS 68

1 2 3 4 5 09 Jammu & Kashmir 198.0 99.0 23.1

10 Karnataka 465.0 200.0 142.1

11 Kerala 1120.0 280.0 95.6

12 Madhya Pradesh 245.0 400.0 200.2

13 Maharashtra 490.0 760.0 239.5

14 MaOlpur 41.0 16.0 5.5

15 Meghalaya 73.0 16.8 5.3

16' Mlzoram 52.0 8A 2.1

17 Nagaland 64.0 26.0 3.4

18 Onssa 160.0 184.0 99.1

19 Punjab 12.0 100.0 63.6

20 Rajasthan 20.0 560.0 135.3

21 Sikklm 36.0 2.0 1.3

22 lam~ Nadu 400.0 2400 180.4

23 Tripura 115.0 20.0 8.0

24 Uttar Pradesh 400.0 360.0 423.4

25 West Bengal 1000.0 1008.0 207.1

26 A&N Islands 9.0 6.3 1.9

27 Chandigarh -4.0 14.04 2.9

28 D&N Haveli 1.6 0.8 0.4

29 Deihl 200.0 400.0 61.5

30 Daman & DIU 3.6 0.8 0.3

31 lakshadweep 5.5 0.07 0.6

32 Pondlcherry 14.0 2.4 2.3

TOTAl: 6884.2 6564.17 2655.0 69 Written Mswet5 AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SA/G4\) Written Answen 70

STATEMENT.III

Statewise offtake of rice and wheat through Public Distribution System during April- Sept., 1987 In '000' tonnes

Code Name of the State /UT Rice Wheat No. 1 2 13 4 -01 Andhra 'Pradesh 561.6 34.1 02 AnunachalPradesh 32.0 2.8

03 Assam 244.4 92.3

04 Bihar 23.0 236.2

05 Gujarat 146.4 218.4

06 Goa 25.0 6.8

07 Haryana 6.6 12.2

08 Himachal Pradesh 19.2 15.6 09 Jammu & Kashmir 85.S 42.2

10 Kamataka 341.1 83.6

11 Kerala 864.4 51.6

12 Madhya Pradesh 114.4 95.6

13 Maharashtra 310.7 549.6

14 Manipur 28.9 4.3

15 Meghalaya 54.6 12.3

16 Mizoram 42.2 1.3

17 Nagaland 38.7 24.3

18 Orissa 63.1 36.0

19 Punjab 1.9

20 Rajasthan 8.9 200.4

21 Sikkim 15.2 1.0

22 Tamil Nadu 220.2 57.9 71 Written ~swers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers 72

1 2 3 23 Tripura 75.7 4.9

24 Uttar Pradesh 154.8 86.0

25 West bengal 403.7 330.1

26 A&N tslands 3.8 1.3

27 Chandlgarh 1.9 2.3

28 D&N Havel!

29 Deihl 94.7 109.7

30 Da .. nan & DIu 0.3 Neg.

31 lakshadweep 0.2 Neg.

32 Pondlcherry 1.8 Neg

Total: 3984.9 2312.8

Rigs Owned by ONCE (c) and (d). I n the past, cracks had developed on the legs of 3 jack up ~ due to 2513. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: Will factigue mechanism arising from cyclic and the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU- static stressing during operational service. RAL GAS be pleased to state: One of these rigs sustained further damage due to cyclones in the course of its voyage first from Bombay to Dubai and again from (a) the number of off-shore drilling rigs Dubai to Japan to where it was being owned by the Oil and Natural Gas Com- towed for repairs. All the three rigs have mission; since been got repaired.

(b) whether some of these drilhng ngs An expenditure of US $ 16.736 million ar~ either outdated or damaged; approx. was incurred In connectaon with repairs to the cyclone hit ng. ONCe has (c) if so, how many damaged rigs have already received an amount of Rs.1'" (rores been sent for repairing; and approx. against Insurance; Its turther claim for around Rs.9 crores against insurance IS (d) the amount spent on the repainng of under consideration. these rigs? The amount spent on repairs to the remalOing two rigs was Rs.3. 10 crores THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN- approximately. ISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU.RAL GAS (SH RI BRAHMA DUTI): (a) Ten. Applications for Public Call OffICes (b) Only one rag was damaged in fire and IS now being used as the Early 251~.SHRI SYED MASUDAL HOS~IN: Production System. None of the renlaining WiD the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS nine rigs is either outdated or damaged. be pleased to state: 73 Written AnSwet5 ACRAHAVANA 3, 1909 (SAKA) Written AnSwers 74

(a) the State-wise total number of appli- at an ec;timated cost of Rs. 305.18 crores cations received for public call offices within a period of three to four years. The (PeO) during the last three years; details of financing the programme have not been finalised as yet. (b) the number of applications approved, under consideration and those re- Technical Collaboration with EsJptian jected during the last three years, Pharmaceutical Companies State-wise; and (c) when the pending applications are 2516. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: likely to be disposed of? DR. C. VIJAYA RAMA RAO:

Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased rHE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MtN- Ll st'te: ISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEY): (a) to (c). The (a) whether some pharmaceutical compa- infonnation is being collected and will be nies in Egypt are seeking technical collabora- laid on the Table of the House. tion from India to manufacture basic dru~:

Renovation and Modernisation of old (b) if .10. the details thereof, Hydro-Oectric projects (c) whether the Egyptian phannaceutical 2515. CH. RAM PRAKASH: will the Minis- companies propose to set up basic drug units ter of EN ERey be pleased to state: in Egypt or in India: and

(a) whether Government propose to (d) the steps taken by his Ministry in re- renovate and modernise the old hydro-elec- :tponse to th~ offer of the Egyptian compa- tric projects on the same lines on which the nies? modernisation of thermal projects has been taken; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- (b) if so, the main features of the PARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETRO- proposal? CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI R.K. JAICHANDRA SINGH):(a) A five member delegation comprising of chief THE MINISTER Of STATE IN THE DE- PARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY executives of Egyptian public sector phanna- OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHHA ceutical companies visited India in October, ROHTAGI): (a) and (b). A Committee under 1987 at the invitation of State Trading Corpo- the Chairmanship of Chai.man and Manag- ration. However, no specific proposals have ~king ing Director, National HydroelectriC Power so far come: from (he Egyptian side technical collaboration to manufacture Corporation was set up to fonnulate a pro- basic gramme for renovation and modernisation of drugs. hydro electric stations under operation in the (b) to (d). Dc not arise. country. The Committee carried out survey and review of 110 power stations with an aggregate installed capacity of 14,030 MW Industrial Competitiveness and has, in its Report, recommended 60 power stations for renovation and uprating, 2517. SHRI. H.B. PATIl: Will the Minis- and 93 power stations for modernisation. ter of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: The Committee has estimated that the renovation and modernisation would lead to an (a) whether India is much behind worid additional installed capacity of 527.81 MW industrial competitiveness owing to the shel- and 395.87 million units of energy per annum tered market conditions; 75 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers 76

(b) ifso, whether any study has been con- (b) States/UTs give their total demand ducted in this regard; and for imported edible oil in an oil year. For the oil year 1986-87 (Nov. Oct) State-wise (c) if so, the details thereof? demand for imported edible oil is given in the statement-I below. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- (c) State-wise allocation and lifting of rapeseed oil has been given in the state- MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY ment-II below. (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM):(a) to (c). In the initial stages of development, the motivating STATEMENT -I force for industnal growth was importsubsti- tution. Government was obliged to protect Demand for 0;1 year (November-October) the nascent industries and therefore, did not 1986-87 expose Indian industry to external competition. Over the period, the Indian industry had S.No. Name of the States/UTs In diversified its base and acquired maturity. M.Tonnes The thrust of the new policy is to expose the Indian industry to international competition. 1 2 3 Industries• are being constantly studied with a view to upgrade their technology and 1. Andhra Pradesh 2,01,000 improve their competitiveness in the international market. 2. Assam 7,200

Import and Allocation of R.peseed Oil to 3. Bihar 17,280 States 4. Gujarat 2,80,000 2518. SHRIMATI BIBHA GHOSH GOSWAMI: Will the Minister of FOOD AND 5. Haryana 30,000 CIVI LSUPPLI ES be pleased to state: 6. Himachal Pradesh 12,000 (a) the total import of rapeseed oil during 1986 and upto October 1987' 7. Jammu & Kashmir 6,000·

(b) the demand of imported rapeseed oil, 8. Kamataka 1,12,500 statewise; and 9. Kerala 57,000 (c) the allocation made and the quantity actually made available to each State during 10. Madhya Pradesh .the same period; State-wise? 11. Maharashtra 2,30,000 THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AfFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AN 0 12. Manipur 5,960· CIVil SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K.L BHAGAT): (a) Following quantity was imported: 13. Meghalaya 8,400 Oil Year Quantity 14. 12,000 (Nov-Oct) (in MTs) Nagaland

1985-86 1,57,830 15. Orissa 72,000

1986-87 2,80,619 16. Punjab 21,600 77 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAIG-\) Written MswetS 78

po, ~ ~.J

17. Rajasthan 14,500 26. 0& N Haveli 1,080

18. Sikkim 1,800 27. Delhi 35,000

19. Tamil Nadu 1,32,000 28. Goa, Daman & Diu 5,640 29. Lakshadweep 200 20. Tripura 2,736 30. Mizoram 3,000 21. Uttar Pradesh 19,200 31. Pondicheny 7,200 22. West Bengal 1,86,000 GRAND TOTAL 13,90,186 23. A & N Islands 1,200 • No demand was received for 1986-87 24. Arunachal Pradesh 450 from the State. Therefore demand for 1986- 87 has been taken at the same level as 25. Chandigarh 1,200 1985-86.

STATEMENT·II

Allocation and lifting of imported edible oils in 1986 and 1987 (upto October, 1987)

(Quantity in mrs)

1986 (Jan-Dec) 19870an-Oct.) S.No. Name of the -----..... StatesLUTs Allocation UftinS Allocation UftinS 6 1 2 3 4 5 - -1. Assam 2400 436 3400 1400

2. Bihar 1200 1000

3. Haryana 1900 1354 1400 1601

4. Himachal Pradesh 3360 2056 4850 3245

5. Jammu & Kashmir 4575 2881 7000 3820

6. Mampur 4650 3729 5100 4585

7. Meghalaya 3200 2676 2300 174

8. Nagaland 4810 2591 4900 4767 80 79 Written J\nSweIS . NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers ...- 4 5 6 l 3 2700 578 9. Rajasthan 750 261 458 10. Sikkim 1150 742 1110 488 11. Tripura 2080 338 2170

300 200 2100 725 12.. Utta. Pradesh 97021 13. West Bengal 113500 86515 122200

14. A&N Islands 90 15

107 15. Arunachal Pradesh 460 49 680

16. Chandigam 20

17. Delhi 12900 9254 11080 7592 1379 18. Mizoram 2480 2289 2750

Introduction of Speed Post Service from (b) and (c). Do not arise in view of reply west Bengal to Delhi to (a) above.

2520. SHRI ANll BASU: (d) S~eed Post Service is being ex- SHRI SAlfUODIN CHOWDHARY: tended 10 a phased manner depending upon the potential for Speed Post business Will the Minister of COMMUN ICAliONS as well as availability of the required infrastructure. Further, the availability of man- be pleased to state: power to take up this additional workload (since, at present, Speed Post work is (a) whether therp is any proposal to In· ma~ed ~ithin the existing manpower troduce Speed Post Service from more aV~llable Without sanctioning any post for areas in West Bengal to Delhi/New Delhi; thIS purpose due to the operation of ban on creation of new posts) is another con- (b) whether there is any proposal to in- I side ration in deciding to introduce Speed troduce speed post service in Manso', Our- Post Service in a particular city. Therefore, gapur and Bardhaman in West Bengal; the question of introduction of Special Post in each case is examined keeping these fac- (c) if so, the details thereot, and tors in view. At present, it is considered that these cities, namely, Assansol Durga- (d) if not, the reasons therefor? pur and Burdwan in West Bengal, do not fulfil the above noted coaditionl. THE MINISTER Of STATE IN THE MINIS- Declaration of Road Transport as an TRY OF COMMUNICATIONS SHRI SON· Industry TOSH MOHAN DEV: (a). No, Sir. There is no 2521. SHRI MUUAPPALLfRAMACHAN- proposal to introduce Speed Post Service from more areas in West Bengal to Delhi/ DRAN: Will the Mi.llster of INDUSTRY be New Delhi at present. pleased to state: 81 Written AnswetS ACRAHAYANA 1,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 82

(a) whether there is any proposal to are 24 District/Circle Telecom. Training declare the road transport as an industry, Centres to train subordinate Technical and and Operative cadres. (b) Governtnent's decision in this regard? (e) 5 Regional Telecom. Training Centres are proposed to be upgraded as zonaJ TeJe- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- com. Training Centres with additional mod- PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- em facilities. MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY . (SHRI M.ARUNACHALAM): (a). Nosuchpro- . Amendment to Essential Commodities posal is under consideration in this Ministry. Act

(b) Does not arise. 2523. DR. G. VIjAYA RAMA RAO: Will the Shortage of Telecommunication Engi- MInister of FOOD AND CIVil SUPPLIES be neers and Technicians pleased to state:

2522. SHRI YASHWANTRAO GADAKH (a) whether any representations have PATll: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- been received about undue hardships and TIONS be pleased to state: harassment caused to the honest traders on account of the special provisions under the (a) whether there is shortage of telecom- Essential Commodities Act making aJI of- munication engineers and technicians at fences, minor and maj~r, non-bailable; present; (b) whether appellate jurisdiction has (b) whether the requirements thereof on been transferred to the Executive in place of a long tenn basis have been assessed; the judiciary; and (c) whether any amendments are under (c) if so, the details thereof; consideration by Covernment on the basis of various representations and their own expe- (d) the details of the present training rience so that this Act is not used as a lever for facilities thereof; and extortion or bribes leading to increase in cor- ruption? (e) the measures taken or proposed to be taken to expand the facilities? THE MINISTER OF .PARUM1ENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- CIVil SUPPLIES (SHRI H.Kl. BHAGAT): (a) TRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SON- to (c). Yes, Sir. Some representations have TOSH MOHAN DEV): Ca) No, Sir. There is no been received suggesting that offences, overall shortage. under the Essential Commodities (Special Provisions) Act, 1981 be made bailablE' and (b) Yes, Sir. that the appellate lunsdlctipn should lif' before a judicial authority and not the State (c) Being done as per assessment of Governments. growth of assets and workload norms. The Essential Commodities (Special Pro- (d) Adequate trainmg facilities exist at visions) Act, 1981 came Into force with taffect present in the Department to train telecom- from 1.9.82 for a period of five years, which munication personnel. There are 2 Apex level has now been extended for a further period Training Centres to train Senior level Tele- of five years with effect from 1.9.87 by an Act com. Engll1eers and 12 Regional Telecom. of Parliament, namely, Essential Commodi- Training Centres to train JUnior Technical ties (Special Provisions) Continuance Act, officers and other Supervisory cadres. There 1987. At. the time ot the extension of this Act NOVEMBER 14, 1987 8~ Written AnswetS Written AnJWelS

in August, 1987, the representa(lons re- Modemisation of Chinakuri Coal Station ceived were duly considered. in West Bengal

No proposal fot amending the Essential 2525. SHRI NARSING SURYAWANSHI: Connnodities Act is under consideration. SHRI PRATAPRAO B. BHOSALE:

Will the Minister of EN ERGY be pleased to state: Buffer foodgraini for SMIle Countries (a' . whether it is proposed to take help 2524. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATll: Will the from the Federal Republic of Gennany to Minister of FOOD AND CIVil SUPPLIES be conduct ~ study on modernising the Chi- to state: pleased nakuri Co,,, station in West Bengal,:,and

(a) whether at the recent SMRC meet in (b) if so, II e further developments in tht' ~thmandu, a proposal was mooted to have matter? food buffer for the use of the member countries in times of drought or flood; THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VAS- (b) if so, the details of the scheme drawn ANT SATH E): (a) and (b). Federal Republic of up; and Germany has agreed to finance a Feasibility (c) when it is going to be constituted and Study on applicability of a suitable caving made functional? method with powered supports to mine the thick seam in the Chinakuri colliery of Eastern Coalfields Limited. The feasibility study has THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY been entrusted to a Gennan consulting finn AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND under a contract signed recently. CIVil SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K.l BHAGAT): (a) An agreement for establishing SAARC Food Security Reserve ~as signed on 4.11.1987 by ~Stocks the SAARC member countries at the 3rd Summit held recently in Kathmandu. 2526. SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL: Will the Min- ister of I NDUSTRY be pleased to state:

(b) The ReselVe shall consist of wheat or (a) whether the salt stocks are mounting rice or a combination thereof. The initial size in salt producing areas of the country, of the Reserve win be 200,000 tonnes. Each member country will be required to earmark (b) ifso, the reasons of rise in salt stocks; the allocated amounts of foodgrains as its and share of Reserve, to be maintained within that country. The share allocated to India is (c) the steps Govemment intend to 153,200 tonnes. In tenns of the Agreement, stimulate domestic and export demand to each member country shall be entitled, sub- ease salt stock accumulation? ject to certain conditions and procedures, to draw on foodgrains fonning part of the Re- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- serve in the event of an emergency. PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- MENT IN THE. MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) Yes, Sir. (c) The Agreement ..., enter into force on a date to be detennined by the SMRC Coun- (b) The increase in salt ~~~ks IS primar- d' of Ministers, prOVided that the member ily due to drought conditions during the countries have collectively earmarked at'east last three years in major salt producing 125,000 tonnes offoodgrains on that date for States with the resultant extension of salt the purpose of the Agreement. manufacturing season. 85 h.,.. ten AnsweIs ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Written AnsweIS 86

(c) Some of the steps taken by the Gov- (a) whethfr any agreement was reached ernment to stimulate domestic and export in 1984 to set up acement factory in U~ipur demands to ease salt stocks accumulation in the foothills of Himalaya with Indo are: Nepal cooperation; and

(i) New industrial units for production of (b) if so, the brief details thereof and the Soda Ash/CaLLStic Soda have been licensed. present position in regard to its implementa- The present units have been advised to maxi- tion? mise their production to increase the COI)- sumption of salt. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- .. PARTMENT OF. INQUSTRIAL DEVELOP- (ii) Fresh assignment of land for salt MENT IN THE MINISTRY Of INDUSTRY manufacturing has been kept in abeyance for (SHRI M. ARu.:NACH~LAM): (a) and (b). A two years. proposal to set up a cement factory in Udaipur in NepC!l was initially projected as a (iii) Export of commdh galt has been deca- part of Memorandum of Understanding nalised and brought under OCl. signed in 1977 by the Minister of Industry with his Nepalese counterpart. Conse- quently, the possibility of implementing this Inst~lation of Dip-a! Electronic Exchange project as a joint venture project was ex ... Equipment in Maharashtra plored. Viability studies and sensitivity analy ... 2527. SHIftASHOKSHANKARRAOCHA- sis of the project was carried out, which VAN: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- revealed that the joint venture project would· TIONS be pleased to state: not be commercially viable. The project was, therefore, not pursued. (a) whether digital electronic exchange equipment is being imported and installed in district headquarters in the country in order [English) to improve the telephone services in the rural areas; and Temporary Telephone Connections in Andhra Pradesh (b) if so, the names of the district headquarters in Maharashtra where the digital . 2529. SHRI S. PALAKONDRAYUDU: Will electronic equipment is being installed the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be priority basis7 pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SON- (a) the total number of temporary tele- lOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) Yes, Sir. limited phone connections sanctioned during the number of small capacity digital exchanges last three years in Andhra Pradesh, yearwise; • are being imported and installed in some district headquarters and towns. (b) the total number of temporary tele- (b) The name of.cH$trict headquartelJin phone connections sanctioned and rejec;:ted MaharaShtra where MEAX type electronic in Secunderabad-Hyderabad, Vijayawada excha. is proposed to be installed in . and Visakhapa~m o! Andhra Pradesh;. and Gadchiroli. (c) the reasons for rejection duri"8 1984- [Translation 1 85, 1985-86 and 1986-871 SeHins up of Cement factory in Ud-.,ur T.Hf..MINISTfR Of STATE IN THE MIN .. 2528. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD ISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SINGH: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be SONTO~H MOHAN OEV): (a) The required pleased to state: information is pen heIow.- 87 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written AnsweB 88

Year Number of temporary Date Installe:d CapaCIty telepnone connections (In Million Tonne, san ctlon ea 1.4.1986 44.39 1984-85 479 1985-86 512 1.4.1987 53.75 1986-87 599 (b) Imports: In view of easy availability of (b) Details regard.ng the total number of cement, no import has been authorised SInCt' temporary telephone connections sanc- the financial year 1986-87 except for certain tioned/reJected dunng the years 1984-85, specaal varieties of cement to meet speCific 1985-86 and 1986-87 are gIVen below:- demand from particular end users. However, a quantity ot 1.76 lakhs tonnes of OrdInary Place Total number of Gray Portland Cement was imported dunng temporary telephone 1986-87 through State Trading Corporation connections of I ndia against the balance out of a total sanctioned/ rejected import of 5.00 lakh tonnes authorised by Government during 1985-86. Secunderabaa- Hyderabad 725 1,146 Exports: Cement has been exported only to Nepal under the Indo-Nepalese Treaty of Vijayawada 212 Nil Tracie, details of which are as under:

Visakhapatnam 173 Nil Year Quantity

(c) The reasons are paucity of exchange 1986-87 00.45 lakh tonnes capacity and technical none-feasibility. 1987-88 Nil Import of Cement (upto Oct. '87)

2530. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Will (c) No Sir. On the contrary there was a the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to increase of Rs. 24.50 per tonne In retention state: price of levy cement w.eJ. 15th December, 1986. Non-levy cement rs free from pnce and (a) the Installed capaoty of Cement In- distribution controls and Its prices are deter- dustry as on 1.-1.1986 and 104.1987· mined by cost of production and market forces. (b) the quantity of cement Imported and exported dunngthe years 1986-87 and 1987- trained Personnel for Implementation of 88 (so far); and Telecom Expansion Plan

(c) whether th~ .x-f~ctory price has re- 2531. SHRIMATI MADHUREE SINGH: corded any reduction during the last one year Will the Minister of COMMUN ICA TIONS be ple~~d to state:

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- (a) the number of technicians, engineers PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- and managers available for Implementation MENT IN THE MINtSTRY Of INDUSTRY of telecom ~xpansion plans, and (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (al The installed capacity of cement industry is as (b) in case of shortage how do Govern- under. ment propose to flit the gap between the 89 Written AnSwel'S ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAJG.\) Written Answers 90 aVdilability and demand in the human re- equipped with new electronic telephone source of properl)' trained personnel? exchanges and Trunk Auto Exchange (TAX) system; and THE MINISTER Of STATE IN THE MIN- ISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI (b) if so, the details of the action plan? SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) and (b). The data is under collection and will be placed THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN- on the Table of the House. ISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) Bhopal, In- New Electronic Telephone Exchanges and dore, Jabalpur and Raipur' would be .. Trllnk Auto Exchanges in Madhya equipped with new electronic local and trunk automatic exchange (TAX) systems. Pradesh Riwa is planned to be provided with a new 2532. SHRI PRATAP BHANU SHARMA: electronic local exchange. Provision of elec- Will the Mmlster of COMMUNICATIONS tronic exchange at Cwalior is under con- be pleased to state: sideration. There are no plans for Bilaspur and Sagar. (a) whether Bhopal, Indore, Cwalior, Riwa, Jabalpur, Raipur, Bilaspur and Sagar (b) The details are given in the State- towns of Madhya Pradesh would be ment given below.

STATEMENT List of NeVil' Electronic fxcnanges and TAX Planned ;11 Madhya Pradesh

Station Type of Capacity Supply Exchange Progratnme

1 2 3 0 4 Bhopal local 4000 lines 1986-87 local 4000 lanes 1988-89 ExpanSion

TAX 1000 lanes Main 1986-87 TAX 500 lines 1987-88 Expansion

Ralpur local 3000 lines 1988-89

local 3000 Lines 1988-89 Expansion

TAX 1000 lines MaIO 1986-87 )abalpur local 01000 unes Main 1989-90 local 1000 Ltnes 1989-90 Expansion

TAX 1200 UnesMain 1988-89

'ndore local 10000 lines Main 1988-89 (Transport Nagar) 91 Wfltten Answets NOVEMBER 24, 1987 WTltten Answers 92 ----- 1 2 3 4 Indore local 6000 Lines MaIO 1988-89 (Nehru Park) Local 4000 Lines 1988-89 Expansion

TAX 1000 LmesMam 1988-Bq Rlwa local 1200 Lmes 1988-89

Establishment of Electronic Telephone gapur, Ton" JhunJhunu, P.thauragarh, Oral, Exchanges Sultanpur, Ramkhot, Salnthla, Tambram, Valkon, UJham, Koslkalan, Almora, Nalmtal, 2533 SHRI CHINTM1ANI JENA Will Vnndavan Sadabad Goverdhan, Rudarpur, the MInister of COMMUNICATIONS be Churhat Kattor Udayamperoor & plea3ed to state Hebbagudl

(aJ the names ot the cities \\ hlch ha\e (b) Detail of number ot electroOlC ex- been provided with faCIlity of electronIC tele- changes establlsheci so far are as follo\\s phone exchanges, Name ot ell\. No at electronIC (b) the number of electronic telephone exchanges mall} exchanges established so far In those Cities, Ahmedabad 2

(c) the programme of government to Bombay 13 establish more electrOnic telephone exchanges In the country, and, Calcutta 6 Deihl (d) the names OT the Cities selected and 14 when such exchanges will be established? Hyderabad 02 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN- Klnpur ISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS SHRI 01 SONTOSH MOHAN DE\'): (a) Following Madras Cities have been prOVided with the faCIlity 02 of electronIC telephone exchanges Pathankot 01 Bombay, Deihl, Calcutta, Madras, Banga- Snganganagar lore, Ahmedabad, Hyderabad Kanpur, Pa- 01 thankot, Snganganagar, Sirsa, Gandhtdham, Sirsa Kumool, Veraval, Dlbrugarh, Imphal, Karur 01 Gurgaon, Gulberga, Changancherry, Pall- Gandhldham marwar, Ud,p" Porbandar, Tlnsukhla, Bea- 01 war, Mehsana, Gaya, lOuanna, Margao, Kurnool Kalambah, Alwar, Jorhat, Snnagar, Gandhl- 01 nagar, Abohar, Armoor, Kotuagudam, Rama- Veraval chandrapuram, BaJpe, Yelwal, Kalpatta, 01 Mannar, Dhar, Balaghat, Cuna, Sh.vapun, Dlbrugarh Halflong, Lungleh, Hamtrpur, Kulu, 01 KeonJhar, Dhenkanal, Chhaturpur, Dun- Imphal 01 93 WTltten Answers AGRAHAYANA 3,1909 (SAIV\) Written Answers 94

Name of city No of electronic Name of City No of electronic exchanges mam exchanges malO t<.aroor 01 Mannar 01

Gurgaon 01 Dhar 01

Gulberga 01 Balaghat 01

Chhanganchern 01 Guna 01

Pahmar\\'ar 01 Shlvpun 01

Udlpl 01 Halflong 01

Porbandar 01 Lungleh 01

Tm5ukhla 01 Hamlrpur 01

Beawar 01 Kulu 01 Mehsana 01 KeonJhar 01 Cava 01 Dhenkannal 01 Khanna 01 Chhaturpur 01 Margao 01 Dungarpur 01 Kalamboh 01 Dungarpur 01 AI",ar 01 Tonk 01 Jorhat 01 JaunJhuna 01

~nnagar 01 Plthauragarh 01 Gandhmagar 01 Oral 01 Abohar 01 Sultanpur 01 Armoor 01 Ramkhet 01

Kothagudam 01 Salnthla 01

Ramchandrapuram 01 Tmbram 01

BaJpe 01 Vallon 01

Yelwal 01 Koslkalan 01

.Ipetta 01 Almora 01 95 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers 96

Chindwara, Jagadalpur, Pravaranagar, Ma- Name of city No. of electromc bad, Aizwal, Karimganj, Hailakamdl t Diphu, eAchanges mam ,Coraya, Palwal, Samalkha, Sanewal, Makrana, Rampet, Nagpur, Guddalor, Gu- Namltal 01 mtdipoondi, Tuticann Post Trust, Siva- ganga Baraut, KhulJa, Sikandrabad, Bayta, Vannda\an 01 Panchadra, Samdhan, Stana, Sindhri, barmer, Molo..okchung, Tuensang, Khipre, Sadabad 01 Paren Chumukdima, Ram Nagar, Kashipur, Kitch~, Renigunta Rayya, Kothkhal, Chandi- gam and Maralmalinnagar. Govardhan 01

Cburhat 01

01 Formulation of Bulk Drugs

, d\ Jlllperoor 01 2534. SHRI AMARSINH RATHA\J\!A \~1I1 the Minister of INDUSTRY be pteasecl to Hebbagudl 01 state:

(a) whether some pharmaceutical 01 manufactunng companies have stopped the formulailon ot bul" dnlgs which has resulted Rudarpur 01 In the shortage ot those dnags, (c) Government has planned to establish (b) if so, the details In thiS regard and 178 (one hundred and seventy eight) more the reasons therefor; electronic telephone exchanges dunng rest of the 7th five year plan penod. (c) the steps bemg taken to meet the demand of these drugs/and (d) followang Cities are selected to establish electronic telephone exchanges dunng (d) whether government have perrmtted 7th five year plan penod. these companies to do so, If not, the action taken agamst them for stoppmg the formula- Amntsar, Calcutta, NOlda, tiadarpur, tion of these drugs? Vlshakhapatnam, Hyderabad, Gaziabad, Kanpur, Madras, Ahmedabad, Bangalor~, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- Pur.e, Bhopal, Raipur, Bhubneshwar, Delh~, PARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETRO- Bombay, ludhlana, Jaipur, Patna, Ranchl, CHEMICALS IN THE MINiSTRY OF INDUS- Rajkot, Jodhpur, Jallundhar, Gawhati, Sura!, TRY (SHRI R. K. JAICHANDRA SINGH): (a) Trichy, Vijaywada, Hassan, Varansl, Dumka, Hajlpur, Madhubani, Nawadah, To the extent II1formatlon IS available, no Pumea Kodanar (Khalra), Kathua, Betul, Da- such Instances have come to the notICe of the tia, Khargone, Mandla, shajapur, Tikam- government gam, Ambikapur, Bhind, J\.tlnrnad, Dhatar, Mangaon, Etanagar, Bilaspur Nahan, Una, (b) to (d). Do not anse Chamba, Korapur, Phulbani, Sundarga~, Supply of Medicines to Distributors of Baripada, Jalora, Jaisalmer, Jhalawar, ~wa~, Indian Drugs and Pharmaceuticals Madhopur, Savai Madhopur (R.S), Slrch~, Limited Bundl, Fatehpu", Gazipur, Lalitpur, Paun, Banda, Alipur Dwar, Surajpur, Palta, Cochan Bhadrachalam, Tadipatri, Culab- 2535 DR CHANDRA SHEKHAR TRIPA- bagh, Sitamarhi, Jamkhandi, Kumta, Tiptur, TH I Will the MInister of INDUSTRY be Jhabua, Rawa, Sldhi, Peethampur (DHAR), pleased to state 97 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 98

(a) whether Government are aware of ment to ensure easy availability of these the fact that some med,canes and other Items drops In the country? were not supphed to the dlstnbutors of IDPl within prescnbed time as per the rules 10 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- spite of depOSiting advance money by them PARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETRO- for thiS purpose and thiS advance money had CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- not been refunded to these dlstnbutors even TRY: (SHRI R.K. JAICHANDRA SINGH): (a) after their request for refund which has re- and (b). General shortage of polio va nes sulted In the resentment among the dlstnbu- In the country resulted after June-, 1987 due tors agaanst Government and IOPl. to the imported vaccines not satisfying the standards set under the revised procedure (b) the names of these dlstnbutors and of testing. the details III regard to the amount deposited by them, As per II1formatlon received form MIS Radlcura Pharma, Deihl, the tollowlng quan- (c) whether government propose to take tities of polio vaccine were supplied to any steps to get the depOSits refunded to Gujarat, Andaman and NlCobar Islands and these dlstnbutors without any delay; and West Bengal

(d) If so, by what time? GUJarat-l0, 19000 doses, Andaman and Nicobar-5000 doses. West Bengal-200000 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- doses PARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETRO- CHEMIcALS IN'THE MiNISTRY OF INDUS- (c) Supplies have been resumed by the TRY (SHRI R.K. JAICHAN'DRA SINGH): (a) Mintstry of Health to all the States and Government have not received any com- Unton Terntones from October, 1987. plaint from any distributor In this regard. These are matters of day to day commercial Drugs Recommended for Price Control transactions of the company.

(b) to (d) Do not anse 2337. SHRI RAJ KU~R RAI: "'ill the MinISter of IN DUSTR'r be pleased to state:

Shortage of Anti Polio Drops (a) whether It IS.a fact that around 90 drugs required tor National Health Pro- 2536. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: gramme have been recommended for pnce SHRlMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: control; and SHRI HAFIZ MOHO. SIDDIQ: (b) It so, ho" man} drugs have been covered under pnce control and \\ hen the re- Will the MInister of INDUSTRY bet maining drugs \\ III be CO\ ered under pnce pleased to state: control?

(a) whether government are aware that THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- there IS dn acute shortage of antJ-poho drops PARTMENT OF CHE~~lCALS AND PETRO- for ImmUniSation agamst polio an many parts CHEMICALS IN THE ~1INISTRY OF IN- of the country and particularly in GUJarat, DUSTRY (SHRI R.K. JAICHANDRA SINGH): Andaman and Ntcobar Islands and \Vest (a) and (b). Drugs mcluded In Category I for price control are based on the recommen- Bengal; dations of the Ministry of Health and Fam- ily Welfare are contained in the Drugs (b) If so. the reasons therefor, and (Prices Control) Order, 198"', caples at which were laid on the Table ot the HOllse (c) the measures bemg ta"en by Govern- on 27th August, 1 q8 ..... 99 Written AnswetS NOVEMBER 24, ..1987 Written MsweB' 100 f

Financial Assistance to Coir Industry In sued by the Coir Board which also aim at ICeraia development of Coir Industry.

2538. SHRI K KUNJAMBU: Will the (b) A sum of Rs. 410 lalchs has been Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: provided for plan schemes for the year 1987.. 88 for giving assistance to various (a) the'fpecific.measures being taken to schemes including those in Kerala. - salvage the cOlr Industry 111 Kerala; and Production of Khadi (b) the amount of financial assistance given by government for this purpose dunng 2539. SH RI KAMlA PRASAD SI NGH: Will 1987-887 the Ministe~ of IN DUSTIlY be pleased to state: -._ THE MINISTER OF STATE 1t:J THE DE- (a) the target fixed and actual production PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- of Khad. under the Sixth FIVe Year Plan; and MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) The Coir (b) the target and actual production of Board in its efforts to promote the C(lir 10- Khadi during the Seventh Five Year Plan so dustry including that in Kerala, have been far? implementing various schemes such as (i) cooperativisation scheme, (ii) workshed for small scale manufacturing units, (iii) rebate THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- on sales of coir yam and coir products PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP· (other than rubberished coir), (iv) cash MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY compensatory support on coir products. In (SH RI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) Target fixed addition to this, Research and Develop- and actual production of Khadi under the ment, Marke~ Surveys and Export Pro: .10- Sixth Five Year Plan is as follows:- tion are some of the measures being pur- SDrnl PIAN

1 arget Actual Production TermInal Year (1984-85) (1984..&5)

Quantity (MillIon sq. metres) 1(,,5 00 10398

Value (Rupees in 20000 15762 crOTes

(b) 'target and product,v" of Khad. durfng the ~venlh FIVe Year Plan so far I~ a~ CoIIOW'$-

SI~Vf~Nrll PIAN

I argcl 1985-H6 1986-87 (temlmal Targel Actual Pro- Target ProductIOn year duchon (Provisional) 1?89-VO

Quantuy (an lKU ()() 133 (JI 104 98 144 16 lOt'> 42 malbon ~q metres)

Value (an Rupee, ('rores) 'lO(JIIIQ 208 00 19S 01 22700 20ICJS 101 . AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 102

~ with fAo. for ....at family The imm.ediate objectJves are:- Storage facilities and Food Processing in T_INadu 1. Improved fanner capability to reduce post-harvest food losses in 100 villages in 2540. SHRI V. TUiS.RAM: Will the Minis- Tamil Nadu throUgh the introduction of new ter of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be processing and storage techniques. pleased to state: 2. A continuing programme of reducing (a) whether an agreement with the Food post-harvest losses by incorporating post- and Agricultural Organisation has been harvest technOlogy into the work assignment signed for the improvement of rural family of female Village-level workers. storage facilities and processing of foods in Tamil Nadu; AOIVITIES AND OUTPUTS

(b) If so, the details of the agreement; The project will:

(c) whether there is any proposal under . 1. Organize training course of one consideration of Union Government to enter month duration each in two phases and in IOtO Similar agreements with Fodd '~nd Agn- . 4 groups for all the village-level workers cultural Organlsatron for such facihtles In from 100 villagt:,s in one or two blocks to Andhra Pradesh; and -' equip them to guide members of farm families in reducing post-harvest losses and (d) If so, the details thereof and If not, the reasons therefor? processing of foodgrains with special attention to poor farm households. Approxi- THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY mately 200 female extension workers will AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND be traine~. CIVil SUPPUES (SHRI H.K.L BHAGAT): (a) Yes, Sir. :mplement an extension programme to red!Jce post-harvest losses and (b) A statement is given below. processing of foodgralns, With emphasiS on coa~e grains, and continue the extension (c) No, Sir. programme In 100 VIllages of selected blocks so that all famlhes including the poor and (d) The Department of Food has not re- landless an the Villages Will be contacted and ceived any such proposal either from the educated. I n particular Simple storage tech- State Government/Institutions of Andhra naques as mtroduced by the Pfl/IND/OOl Pradesh or from the Food and Agncultural project will be disseminated Organisation. 3 Establish a participatory mOOitonng STATEMENT system for project activities and evaluate project activities Details of the Agreement between FAD and Government of India regarding project on "Improvement of Rural Family Storage and 4. Prepare a handbook In lecal lan- Processing of Foods in Selected Blocks In guages for use by the extension workers 10 all Tamil Nadu. blocks of Tamil Nadu on the basiS of this worl. OB)EOMS 5. Survey and study present practices, Development Objective: Reduction of losses, and consider ways to Improve rural famtly storage and procesSing ot toodgratns, post-harvest food losses In Tamd Nadu With special attention to middle and small farm- fruitS, vegetables, roots and tubers and initi- ers. ate the antl"oductlon ot rele\ant techniques 103 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers. 104

The study will include detennination of resi- treated and adapt project techniques in ac- due levels of applied pesticides. cordance with the findings.

WORK PLAN The training and research personnel will give scientific assistance and guidance to the The work plan envisages three main village-level workers at all stages of the action phases with dates to be faxed at the start of programme in a total of 100 villages. the project. Nevertheless the shift from one phase into the next does not neces,,)' ,I ').lve Phase-III Evaluation to be at the same time for the different groups (approx. 6 months) and reports of trainees, as it is desirable to put them to work on the action programme immediately Preparation of the extension materials after being trained. and evaluation of project results. This will be done by preparing various booklets and by Phase-I Training of prOViding detailed information based on the (approx. 12 months) village- evaluation in one block to develop a set level workers scheme for implementation in an the blocks After the training programme and hand- in the st~te as a built-in activity of the block. book have-been prepared at least 200 workers or 2 workers per village will be trained REPORTING in 4 to 6 training sessions of one month's duration each to cover the selected blocks Progress reports shall be prepared by the with 30 to 50 workers per session. National Project Coordinator every six months for transmission by FAD to the gov- Phase-II IJTJplementation of ernment. The reports will describe the (approx. 18 months) the action scheduled activities and provide data on programme. which progress towards the immediate ob- The tramed village-level workers will initi- jectives of the project may be evaluated. A ate the action programme with regard to the tenninal report will be drafted by the Na- follOWing aspects In their respective villages: tional Project Coordillator four months before the end of the project and finalized by 1. Survey of the- eXisting storage struc- FAO. The report will ac;sess in a concise tures, practices, food processing procedures manner the extent to which the project's scheduled activities have been carried out its and the village families opinions of them. , outputs produced, its immediate objectives achieved, and its results utilized towards the 2. Instruct the village women on improved technology and promote the adop- realization of the related development objec- tves; and give recommendations on any tion of the technology. will future wor l. arissng from the project 3. Dlssemmate ne'v~' simple storage structures and evaluate their usefulness for INPUTS TO BE PROVIDED BY FAD small tarmer households, and assists in the FAO'S inputs will be as follows: construction or upgrading of storage structures for :;mall farmer households. 1. Contracts or honoraria to institutions and personnel for the implementation of the 4. Involve rural households in the plan- project. nmg, Implementation and evaluation of the project to provide feedback and improved 2. Cost of training fOf per~, ,nnel and ex- . methodology thr'!ugh a participatory moni- tension workers. toring system. 3. Support personnel: two drivers, ne- ~. Monitor toxic residues in the grain cessary clerical services. 105 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Written AnswelS 106

4. Simple equipment, materials for use both vehicles (one to be provided by PFL/ in training and in extension and demonstra- IND/OO1, one by this project). tion activities in the villages. One vehicle equipped with demonstration unit will be - Building, supplies and equipment. Fa- used by the trainees in village training cilities for training and Laboratory work will sessions. be provided by the College.

The Government inputs will be placed GOVERNMENT CONTRIBUTIONS • under the responsibilityofthe Home Science College. The Covenlment will make available the following inputs: • (The above inputs will be provided by Shri Avinashilingam, Home Science College for Women, Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu as - Fuel, mamtenance, Insurance, etc. for Government contribution).

PROjEa BUDGET

Code Object of expenditure Total Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 USS USS USS USS

10. Personal Setvices Project Coordmator (3 m/m 15,000 5,000 5,000 5,000 per year)

4 Teachmg staff (4 mjm per year)

Secretary (Pan time) 2 dnvers.

30. Contractual Services 3.soo Reports 3,500

40. General Operatmg Expenses 2.500 1,000 1,000 500

so. Supplies and Materials Malenals for trammg, 10.000 3.500 3.500 3,000 cxtenMon dnd demonstratlon, pc~hc,des. bage~. local hUlldmgs malcnal~.

60 Equipment 1·\ wheel drive vehicle. 12.000 12.000

101al ol3.000 21.500 9.500 12.000

Assistance to Sick Sugar Mills in Bihar crores for the modernisation and expansion 2541. SHRllALiTESHWAR SHAHI: of sick sugar mills under the management of DR. G.S. RAjHANS: the State Sugar Corporation; Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVil SUPPLIES be pleased to state: (b) if so, whether Union Government have agreed to ext~nd such assistance to (a) whether Bihar Government has meet the situation; and sought Central assistance of over Rs. 100 (c) If so, the details thereot? 107 W.iIlett Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 108

THE MINISTER Of PARLIAMENTARY AfFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND 1 2 3 4 CVlL SUPPUES fSHRi H.K.L BHACAT): (al No appkation from supr mils ..... the 4. Manipur management of Bihar State Supr Corpora- 5. Me.... ,. 9433 tion for loan assistance from Supr Develop- ment Fund has been received. 6. Mimram

(b) and (c) .. Do not arise. 7. Napland s

8. Sikkim lI1'IeJbaalt Made by Industrial estab- IisMnents in ..... Hilly Areas 9. Tripura 1730 1825

2543. SHRI HARlSH RAWAT:'. the 10. Himachal Pradesh 51715 55146 ~ of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Total or abcM:: 1lS878 143027 (a) the percentage of capital investment Percentage of above (2.16) (1.98) made various industrial establishments in by to All India border hilly areas of the country and the extent to ~ it is lower than the national AIIInelIa: 6299198 1DIS34 percentage;

(b) whether his Ministry is considering (b) to (d). Government have taken the question of formulating a scheme to at- several measures thrDUJth liberaIisation and tract more capital investment by these indus- streamlining of investment procedures and trial establishments in these areas; industrial policies such as de-licensing of industries, ext~ ofde-licensingscheme to (e) if so, the detaih in this regard; and MITP /fERA companies for Iocition in Cen- bally declared backward areas. In order to (d) if not, the steps proposed to be taken mitipteanyhardship toinvestOIS in the hilly, during the 0Jnent plan period for the Central remote and inaccesibIe area viz. lammu & assistance for industrial develop~nt of Kashmir and North-Eastern Region, apart these areas? from Central Investment Subsidy, Transport Subsidy, is granted at the rate of 90%. JHE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- Apartfrom the above, the existing Central assistance for infrastructure development in MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INUUSTRY 'No Indusby' Districts has been liberalised in (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM): (a) According respect of States in North Eastem Region to Annual Survey of Industries, Capital whereby Central Govemment's share would Investment in hiIy border States during be 50 district instead of the 1982-83 and 1983-84 was as follows: per cent per earlier limit of 1/3rd of total cost. StaiCS Inw:sted CaPItal (Jh..latbs) Opening of Telephone &changes and Sub-post OffICes in Madhya Pradesh 1912-83 1983-84 2544. SHRl KAMMOOllAL JATAV: Will the Minister cI COMMUNICATIONS be 1 2 3 pleased to state: t Assam ssm (a) whether any new telephone 2. ArunacbaI Pradcsb 91 exchange and sub-post oftices have been opened in Madhya Pradesh during the last 3. Jammu a &.Iuair 17141 217S6 three years; 109 ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (S4KA) WIiUen AnsweIs 110

(b) if so, the iunber thereof; Telephone Industries to aeate'more employment avenuesl (c) the time by which telephone exchanges and sub-Post Offices are proposed THE MINISTER Of SlATE IN THE MINIS- to be opened in the remaining areas of TRV OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI Madhya Pradesh; and SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) _y_~, Sir.

(d) the amount of expenditure likely to be incurred thereon? (b) It is proposed to appoint four functional Directors on the Indian Telephone In- THE MINl6TER OF STATE IN THE MIN- dustries' Board. ISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN OEV): (a) Yes Sir.. (c) Setting up of more switching factories under the Indian Telephone Industries (b) Telecom-250 Telephone Exchanges. win depend on the- aver-al Plan Allocation Post Offices:9 Sub Post OI6ces. for the Department of TeIecornmtrica- lions. Notwithstanclins this, a decision has IM!en taken to start production of one IaIcb Telecom ines of C-OOT (Centre for Development 01 TeIematics) rural automatic exchanges aI (c) Opening of Telephone Exchan&e' of BangaIore in replacement of production at 25 lines, 50 lines and 100 lines is opened if about 45000 &nes of strowger rural ex- the demand is 10, 23 and 46 respec- paid changes. tively and they will be opened in phased manner depending on demand. 1heft of PCMel' by SInaI Manufactur- ins Units in Delhi Post OIIices: Proposals are taken up from time to time and if they are found to be 2546. SHRI AKHTAR HASAN: Will the according to the prescribed norms, such pro- Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state. posals are taken up with Ministry of Finance. (a) whether ~ Steps are proposed to (d) Telecom-Depends on availability of betaken to meet the ever-increasingdemand demand and resources. of power in Delhi;

Post Oftices-Questio does not arise in (b) if so, the details thereof; view of (c). (c) the steps taken to check theft of (English) power by many a smaD manufacturing ~ Improvement in the Working of m: in the Capital; and

2545. SHRIMATI laSHORI SINHA: WiD (d) the number of cases detected during the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be the last one year .end action taken against pleased to state: them?

(a) whether Government have taken any THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- steps to improve the working of the Indian PARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY Telephone Industries; OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHllA RO- HTAGI): (a) and (b) .. The mt:aSUI'eS ~ (b) whether functional directors would taken to meet the 8'owinB demand tor be appointed in the undertaki~ and power in Delli include settinB up of Na- tional Capital PeMer Projec.t at Dadri (840 (e) whether Govemment propose to set MW) and 135 MW GtpaCity at the ..... 'up more switching factories under the Indian Power Station, improving the perfOrmance 111 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written AnswelS 112

of the Indraprastha and Badarpur Stations, pall and is, therefore, being transported and strengthening the transmission and thrqugh tankers to nearest avallab'e r~n distribution system. In addition, Delhi will ery at Madras receive its share of power from the Central Power Stations under implementation in On-Shore and Off-Shore Exploration the Northern Region. (e) and (d) Infonnatlon IS being col- 2548 SHRI UTIAM RATHOD. lected and shall be laId on the Table of the House. SHRI KAMALA PRASAD RAWAT

Refining and Distribution of enlde Will the MInister of PETROLEUM AND Oil Produced from Nariman..-.n and NATU RAL CAS be pleased to state Kovilkalpall (a) the new areas of zones on-shore and 2547 SHRIMATI VYJAYANTHIMALA off-shore, where exploration work for od BALI Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AN 0 and natural gas has started dunng thiS fi- NATCRAl GAS be pleased to state nanCial year

(a) whether Jarge quantity of crude 011 (b) produced at Nanmanam and Kovllkalpall IS the Yields of 011 and natural gas ex- sent to far off places for refintng and pected from these area.:; ann dlstnbutJon, and (c) the expenditure II1curred so tar 111 the exploratIon work? (b) If so, the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF ~TATE OF THE MIN- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ISTRY OF PETROLFUM AND NATURAL GAS MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL (SHRI BRAHMA DUn) (a) The new ar- GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTI) (a) and (b) eas/zones taken up for surveys and explo- Only a small Quantity of od IS bemg ratIon dunng the current fmanclal year are produced trom Nanmanam and Kovdkal- as under-

Surveys

Place BaSin

Nahya-Plpal Kutch-Saurashtra

Charaldeo, Kamlaban Upper Assam

North Bank of Brahmputra Upper Assam

T,rap, Pathana, Adamtlla Assam Arakan fold Belt

p,pena-Parasla Jabera-Donda Gondwana/VlOdhyana Sangrampura Sanghpur, Bajla 113 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAJV\) VVrittenAn~ 114

EXPLORATORY DRilliNG

Place Basm

Elas, Kharwada Bicharaji, Chanasma Cambay Basin South Patam

Sanadra Kutch-Saurashtra Jhanjl, Sonan Upper Assam Basin Kanchanpur, Adamtila, Agartalla Dome Assam-Arakan-fold Belt

Vetlapallam Chlntaiapalh, Krishna-Godavari BasIO Vadali

Pappaanchery Nanmlam Cauvery Basin Raghunathpuram 8huvnag,n

Raghunath Bengal Basin

Sunnsar, Nurpur Himalayan Foothills and Ganga Basm

SHRI THAMPAN THO~: Will the MIOIster of INDUSTRY be Western Offshore pleased to state:

B-132, C-24, B-80, C-22, B-134 and Cochm (a) whether Government propose to set Hlgh-1 up a National Des.gn Counc.l;

Andam,an Offshore (b) If so, whether any progress has been Henry Lawrence. made In thiS regard; and

(b) The exact potential of oil and natural (c) what are the details thereto? gas from these areas/zones will be known only after further exploration / driU;ng. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- (c) The expenditure incurred will be MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY known only after finalisation of accounts (SHRI M ARUNACHAl.AAt\): ta) to (c) A for the year 1987 -88. working Group was set up to examine the desirability and feasibility ot setting up a , 'Setting up of National Design Council National DeSign CounCil The recommendations of the Working Group were exam- 2549. SHRI RAM BAHADUR SINGH: med by the Government and It was felt that 115 Written Answet'S NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written AnswetS 116 the proposals needed modification from (b) if so, the details thereof and the- the point of view of organisation of the likely results to be achieved therefrom? Council, manner of providing financial assistance as well as involving industry par- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ticipation. The recommendations of the DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Working Group could not, therefore, be DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF accepted in their present form. INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and (b). No final decision has yet been SeHing up of Small Industries in Ladakh taken in respect of amendments to the Region MRTPAct.

2550. SHRI P. N~GYAl: Will the Min- Ister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Prices of Indigenous Cars

(a) whether it is a fact that there have 2552. SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN been demands from the people of ladakh SINHA: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be to set up small industries like HMT watch pleased to state: assembly unit, Radio and TV assembly and assembly of other light electronic equip- (a) the comparative prices of various types of indigenous cars at present; ments etc. in the public sector undertakings, in the Ladakh region; and (b) how they compare with prices of cars in other countries; and (b) if so, the steps Government have (c) whether low priced would taken so far in this direction and if not, the cars be available in the near future? reasons for not considering the demands of the pep ole of ladakh? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL THF MlN~TFR OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF IN- VENGAl RAO): (a) Yes, Sir. DUSTRY (SH RI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) A Statement is given below. (b) Investment decisions to set up pub- (b) Given the types of cars being lic sector units are taken on techno-econ- produced in the country, it is not possible omic considerations rather than on geo- to compare their pnces with those of the graphical ones. Any proposals for setting cars being produced in other countries up public sector units in Ladakh will be except possibly in the case of Maruti conSidered on merits. Udyog. If the tax element is taken into account, the prices of Maruti cars compare favourably with the prices of similar vehi- Amendments to MRTP Act cles in other countries.

2551. SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU: Will (c) The cost of the vehicles depends on the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to various factors like material and input state: costs, tax structure, wages, etc. In the recent past the steep appreciation in the (a) whether Government have made or value of foreign currenr tes has also are contemplating to make changes in the contributed to higher cost of production. However, efforts are being made by the Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Practices manufacturers to contain prices of cars Act to further liberalize its policy towards consiste,t with prices of inputs and fIScal the big business houses; and levies. 117 Written AnswetS AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909~) Writtpn Answers 118

STATEMENT

POPUlAR NODELS OF CARS CURRENT PRICE (Rs.)

1. MaNti 800 72,5S

2. Maruti OX 103,97S( -do- )

3. Ambassador (Petrol) 84,307(Ex,factory selling price)

4. Contessa Classic 1,27,659( -do- )

5. Premier Padmini 62,414(Ex-factory basic prke) (Standard Model)

6. Premier 118 NE 93,934( -do- )

7. Standard 2000 1,49,346(Excluding excise duty and dealef9 commission)

Delay in Execution of N.LC. project by adherence to schedUle as the work to be WMI (Cranes) Ltd., Bombay do1M' at this unit was not significant.

2553. SHRI V. SREENIVASA P~: Setting up of thermal power plants Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: 2554. SHRI VAKKOM PURU- SHOTHA MAN: Will the Minister of (a) whether the WMI (Cranes) limited, ENERGY be pleased to state: Bombay has so far failed to maintain the schedule of exerution of the given project (a) whether there IS any proposal to set of Neyveli Ugnite Corporation Umited, up more thennal power plants 10 the Neyveli in its second mine expansion country in view of the shomall In hydel scheme; power generation due to faultenng rainfall; and (b) whether WMI (Cranes) umited has also been facing crisis due to its closed (b) if so, the details thereof? manufactunng plant Bombay; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (c) if so, the details thereof? DEPAI{TMENT Of POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI SUSHllA ROHATCI): (a) and (b). Owing VASANT SATHE): (a) to (c). MIs. WMI to deficient rainfall in many parts of the (Cranes) limited, the Indian ~ociates of country this year, there has been a MIs. MAN-GHH of West Gennany, who decrease in hydel generation. To make have been awarded the contrcict for the good this shortfall, several steps have been supply of spreaders for the Second Mine taken to increase thennal powe! Expansion Project of Neyveli lignite generation. These steps incluQe Corporation limited have been expeditious commissioning of additional maintaining the agreed schedule. The generating capacity, early stabilisation of non-functioning of one of the WMI units, newly commissioned units, optimum located at Bombay, has' not affected utilisation of eXISting capacity, reducmg 119 NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written AnSWeB 120 transmission and distribution losses and (c) Does not arise. implementing energy conservation and demand management measures. Import of Tele~ Instruments

The setting up thermal and hyde I power 2556. SHRI V.S. VIJAYARACHAVAN: Will plants including transmission network in- the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be volves long gestation periods and large pleased to state: capital investments. long range power planning is, therefore, based 0 .. the overall (a) whether telephone Instruments techno-economic evaluation of various under the new technology mission are supply options for meeting the power being Imported; requirements of different regions of the country, and not on the basis of short term (b) if so, the details thereof; and " reduction of hydel generation because of (c) whether these Instruments will insuffiCient ramfa" In a particular year. entirely be used in the rural areas 1 Wide Band Microwave System in Orissa THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 2555. SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY: MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DAV): (a) No, be pleased to state: Sir. (b) and (c) Do not arise. (a) whether any wide band microwave system IS operative In Onssa or any part of Minor Hydro-Electric Power Stations the State; 2557. SHRI G. BHOOPATHY: Will the (b) If so, the details thereof; dnd Minister of ENERCY be pleased to state:

(c) If not, the reasons for glvang such (a) the number of minor hydro-electric low pnonty to a backward State like power stations In the country; and Onssa? (b) the production capacity of these THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN- hydro-electnc power stations 7 ISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEY): (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE (b) The following wide band Microwave MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI Systems are workmg in onssa State. SUSHILA ROHATGI) (a) A total of 100 micro, mint and small hydroelectnc power (I) Madras-Calcutta Mlcrowa~e System stations are under operation at present. via Cuttack & Beh::- llpur, (b) The production capacity of these hy- (ii) Calcutta-Bombay Microwave System droelectnc power stations, Statewlse, IS via Sambalpur. indicated in the statement below.

STATEMENT Approximate SI.No. Name of the State / No. of Aggregate System Stations Capacity (KW)

1 2 3 4

1 Himachal Pradesh 11 13 Written t\r1~ 121 AGRAHAVANA 3, 1909 (SAKA) Written AnswetS 122

1 2. 3 4

2. Jammu & Kasnmir 8 28,305

3. Uttar Pradesh 26 34,550

4. Punjab 1 1,000

5. Rajasthan 1 3,000

6. Maharashtra 3 15,300

7. Andhra Pradesh 3 11,350

8. O.V.C. 1 4,000

9. Sikkim 3 3,296

10. West Bengal 7 19,908

11. Assam 1 2,000

12. Manipur 3 2,400

13. Nagaland 1 1,500

14. Meghalaya 2 12,710

15. Tripura 3 16,010

16. Arunachal Pradesh 24 13,420

17 Mizoram 1 1,000

18. Neepco 1 6

100 1.83.525

Short. of Mustard Oil in West Bengal THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY 2558. SHRIMATI GEET}\ MUKHERJEE: AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVil CIVil SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K.l. BHAGAn: (a) SUPPUES be pleased to state: Yes, S,r.

(a) whether Govemment's attention has been drawn to the acute shortage of mustard oil supply in West Bengal; (b) and (c) The Central Government (b) if so, State Government had do not allocate mustard 011. The State requested Union Government to ensure Government is allocated Imported enough supply of mustard oil to solve the rapeseed oil for supply through Public situation; and Distributaon System. This allocation has been increased and State Trading (c) if so, the details thereof and Govern- Corporation is making efforts to supply the ment's response thereto? aHocated quantity. The month-wISe alloca- 123 Written AnSwelS NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answets 124

tion from August, 1987 to November, 1987 (English) is as follows:- Introduction of Efficient Demand August, 1987 17,000 MTs. Management Policy

September, 1987 19,500 MTs. 2560. SHRI SRIBAllAV PANICARHI: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to October, 1987 22,000 MTs. state:

November, 1987 22,000 MTs. (a) whether there is a need to introduce art efficient demand management policy to [Translation 1 meet the growing demand of energy in the country; Introduction of S. T.D. Service in Mandla City, Madhya Pradesh (b) If so, whether Government propose to draw an integrated energy plan keeping 2559 SHRI MOHAN LAL JHIKRAM: Will in view the growing energy demand; and the MinIster of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (c) the steps proposed to be taken by Government in this regard? (a) the time by which S.T.D. service IS likely to be Introduced In Mandla city of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Madhya Pradesh; DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI (b) the names of the cities to be SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) to (c) The efficient connected thereby; management of demand tS an Integral part of the longterm energy development plans. (c) the reasons for delay; and The steps taken/proposed to be taken to . strengthen the demand management measures include adoption of energy (d) the time by which trunk booking or efficient technologies in various sectors of C.B. N.M. exchange is likely to be set up in the economy, increasing the effiCiency of Nainpur City of Mandla district? electrical motors and appliances, time of the day metering, rationalisation of electriCity tariffs, exchange of surplus power between systems, introduction of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN~STRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI pumped storage schemes, conservation of SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) STD service energy by avoiding its wasteful and in Mandla City of Madhya Pradesh is ostentatious use, staggering of loads to planned to be introduced during 1988-89. flatten power peaks, and operation of captive power units during peak hours. (b) All Cities available on the National and I nternational Subscriber Trunk Dialling Ghatapratha Hydro-Electric Project in Network will be accessible from Mandla. Karnataka

(c) The reason for delay in introduction 2561. SHRI SRIKANTHA DAITA of STD is due to delay in acquisition of NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR: Will the Min- forest land for providing the UHF link to ister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Jabalpur. (a) the installed Capacity of Chatapratha (d) The present trunk traffic from Hydro-electric Project in Kamataka; Nainpur does not Justify the opening of a trunk bookang centre. There IS no plan to (b) when the Central Electricity Authorit)' Instal C.B. N.M. exchange at Nampur. and Planning Commission had approved 125 Written AnSWet5 ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 126 the execution of the. said hydro-electric request has 6een received from the project; ?resident, Nepali Sahitya Sammelan, Oar- jeeling who is also President of Oal Ba- (c) the progress made in the execution hadur Giri Birth Centenary Celebrations of the project; and Committee, Oarjeeling.

(d) the detaiJs thereof? (c) As per the Sponsors, Shri Dal Bahadur was a Freedom Fighter and a dose THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE associate of Mahatma Gandhi. DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY SHRIMATI SUSHILA (d) After the biographical details are re- ROHATGI): (a): The installed capacity of ceived from the Sponsors, the proposal wil Chatprattha Hydro-electric Project in be placed before the Philatelic Advisory Kamataka is 2 x 16 MW. Committee to obtain its views in the matter. (b) The project was techno-economicall) cleared by CEA in August, 1980 and sanc· Post Offices in Cram Panchayat tioned by the Planning Commission in May, Headquarters in Orissa 1982. 2563. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: Will the !. (c) and (d) letter of mtent for the con- Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be struction of power house has already been pleased to state: Issued. Work order In respect of Tailrace has been issued. The penstock shells have (a) whether It has been deCided by been fabricated and are at site. Erection of Government to have at least a post office at penstock IS In progress. The generating Gram Panchayat Headquarters; Unit has been ordered and the electncally operated travelling crane has also been (b) If so, the number of post offICes received at site. gOing to be established 111 the Gram Panchayat Headquarters III Onssa, Issue of Commemorative Stamp in Memory of Shri Dal Bahadur (c) the number of Gram Panchayat Headquarters In Onssa Without any post 2562. SHRfMATI L.) K. BHANDARI: Will office; and the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (d) whether Government are aware of the tact that there IS a pubhc demand in (a) whether Government have received Orissa to have post offices establishea 10 any request from Nepala speaking people Gram Panchayat Headquarters and other of Darjeeltng for release of a places? commemorative stamp In the memory of Oal Bahadur; THE MINISTfR OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY Of COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) No, Sir. The (b) if so, the details of these requests; decision has been taken that gram-panchayats which do not at present (c) whether Shn Dal Bahadur was a have a post office will be given priority veteran Freedom Fighter; and while opening new post offices.

(d) if so, the action taken on the requests? (b) and (cy According to the information available with the Department, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE there are, in all, 4388 gram-panchayats in MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI Orissa out of which 3929 gram panchayats SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) and (b) A have been provided With post offices and 127 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers 128

459 panchaya~ are served by post ottices the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to established ,il1 .neighbouring areas. The state: number of new post offices to be opened 'in Orissa as well as other States will.depend (a) whether his Ministry have assessed .' I upon availability of resources from year to the possible denland recession for year and also in individual cases industrial goods in various sectors due to satisfaction of other criteria such as severe drought conditions; and mlmmum prescribed population and revenue and distance from the nearest (b) if so, the extent of the recession and existing post office. Further, in view of the how it will affect the production 7 ban on creation of posts, opening of new post offices is also contingent upon THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE approval to be granted by the \ in1istry of DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Finance for posts requin-..ci to be created for DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF IN- the purpose. As these tactors are as yet DUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM): (a) indetemllnate, it IS difficult to state at this and (b) The impact of drought on industrial stage as to how many new post offices are production is being continuously likely to be opened in Orissa. monitored. So far, there has been only a marginal impact on industrial production (d) Yes, Sir. except in sectors such as fertilisers and textiles. A clearer picture will emerge in Setting up of Vegetable Oil Units January, 1988 when the prospects of Rabi crop are known. 2564. SHRI M. RAGHU~ REDDY: Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVil Telephone Services in Jalpaiguri District SUPPLIES be pleased to state: (West Bengal)

(a) the total number of Indigenous 2566. SH RI MAN IK SANYAL: Will the vegetable oil production units in the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be country; pleased to state:

(b) whether there are proposals to start (a) whether Government are aware of more vegetable oil units in the country; and the deplorable services rendered through the telephone exchanges of Jalpaigun district, originating from lack of proper (c) if so, the details thereof? equipment in the various exchanges of the THE MINISTER OF PARUAMENTARY district; AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND (b) if so, what remedial measures are CIVIL SUPPUES (SHRI H. K. L BHAGAn: (a) In the unorganised sector, there are an contemplated in this regard; and estimated 96,000 ghanies. (c) whether Government will pay immediate attention to this so that In the organised sector, there are 338 li- essential services like tele-communication censed units for crushing oilseeds and 507 do not suffer any longer in that district? solvent extraction plants. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) ahd (c). Proposals, as and when, re- MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI ceived are considered on merits. SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) The Telecommunication Services of Jalpaiguri District are generally satisfactory. Assessment of Demand reces..lliion for Industrial Goods (b) and (c). How,ver, for further improvement the following actions are 2565. SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI: Will being taken: 129 Written AnswefS ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAIV\) Written Answers 130

(i) Jalpai~ri manual exchange will be Hind. Morse or Handl Telepnnter CirCUits automatased, likely - to be from the booking telegraph offiCes 18168 commISSioned by 1990 telegraph offices In the country have thiS facllaty (II} Alipurduar manual exchan_ge will be replaced by an electronic (c) H andl service lS Introduced m automatic one. The work IS In te-Iegraph offiCes on the basiS of demand progress. and the availability of trained personnel

(Iii) Mal and Blrpara manual Construction of BALCO's Captive Power exchanges will be replaced by Plants by NTPC automat.c ones.

(IV) Jalpalgun IS already connected to 2568 PROF MADHU DANDAVATE. Ahpurduar and Slhgun by Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to Microwave System. state.

(v) Banarhat, Birpara, Haslmara will be (a) whether the Bharat Aluminium Interconnected by one UHF Company Limited (BALCO) has entrusted system. Its four UOlts of 6 7 55 f\1W captIVe power plants to the National Thermal Power (VI) ISO facility will be extended to Corporation (NTPC) for managing the Ahpurduar by 1988 and to construction, erection and commISSIOning; Jalpalgun by 1990 (b) whether BALCO has made a proposal to NTPC to assume ownership of Transmission of Telegrams in Hindi company's captive power plants,

2567 SHRI VISHNU MODI \VIII the (c) If so, whether NTPC has accepted MInister of COMMUNICATIONS be the proposal, and pleased to state (d) It not; the differences between (a) whether Postal authontles are BAlCD and NTPC over the Issue? accepting telegrams both In ~ nghsh and In Hindi from the general public, THE MINISTER Of STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN fHE (b) whether there IS no pro"lslon MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI available With the Postal authontles to SUSHILA ROHATGI) (a) The National transmit telegrams In Hmdl \erston trom Thermal Po\\er Corporation have been en- one place to another, and trusted With the responslbillt) to ~xecute, operate and malntam the 270 MW (4x67.S (C) If so, the reasons therefor and ",hen MW) captive po\\er plant of Mjs Sharat such a provIsion IS likely to be made by the Aiumllllum Company at Korba Postal authontles?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI \c) and (d). The matter IS recelvmg con- SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) (a) Telegrams In Sideration of Government Engltsh are accepted 10 all telegraph ottlces Telegrams In Handl are accepted III Subsidy to State Electricity Boards designated telegraph offices where sUltabl} tramed staff are available 2569 SHRI K RAMAMURTHY V\',II the MlIllster of ENE Rev be pleased to state (b) Hindi telegrams are sent over telephone (on Phonocom baSIS) or on (al the steps being taken to Improve the 131 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 \.y,iften Answers 132 performance of the State tlectnclty Hoards net fixed assets at the beginning of the which are incurring heavy losses; year. Guidelines have been issued by the Central Electricity Authority to all State (b) the State-wise details of subsidy Electricity Boards/Electricity Departments given to each State Electricity Board during to draw up Action Plans for improving their the first two years of the Seventh Plan and performance. whether these subsidies were to offset the losses incurred by these State Electricity The Indian Electricity Act, 1910, was Boards; amended in 1986 to make theft of electricity a cognizable offence with (c) whether there is any proposal to in- stringent punishment for the commitment crease the subsidy to State Electricity as well as abetment of the offence and to Boards; and enable State Electricity boards to institute prosecution. (d) if so, the details thereof? Incentive Schemes have been THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE introduced to improve the generation and DEPARTMENT OF POWER rN THE operational efficiency as well as to reduce MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI transmission and distribution losses by the SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) The financial State Electricity Boards/Electricity losses of the State Electricity Boards may be Departments. ascribed, among others, to:

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Setting up of Optial fibre Project in Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVil Rupnarayanpur Unit of Hindustan Cables SUPPLIES be pleased to state: Ltd. (a) whether Super Bazar is not exerting 2570. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Will itself In making available all domestic items the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to of dally need and is concentrating itself on state: easy busmess like selhng onions and palmoleln; and (a) whether there IS any proposal to set up Optical Fibre Project In H Industan (b) If not, the reasons for Super Bazar Cable's Rupnarayanpur umt; and not seiling Items like desl ghee etc. an item of daily need of people? (b) if not, reasons thereoP THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND DEPART.MENT. eF INDUSTRIAL CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K.L BHAGAT): (a) DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF IN- and (b) No, Sir The Super Bazar makes all DUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) possible efforts to make available all com- and (b) No, Sir. It has been decided to lo- monly demanded Items of dally need, cate the proposed Optical Fibre Project of IIlcludll)g desl ghec, to Its customers Hindustan Cables limited at Naini, Distt. Allahabad (U'. P.). Power Generation from Garbage at Timarpur, Delhi {TranslatIon] 2573. SHRI H N. NANJE CO\l\'DA' Setting up of Pertro-chemicals Factory at SHRI G.S BASAVARA.jU. Barauni \\'111 the Minister of ENERGY be pleased 2571 PROf .CHANDRA BHANU Of VI to state. Will the MInister ot INDUSTR) be pleased to state: \a) whether the po\-\er plant set up at TImarpur Deihl has started po," er genera- (a) whether a proposal for setting lip a tIon trom garbage petrochemICals factory at BaraUlII IS pending with Government tor a long tlflle, (b) It so the details thereot, and (C) the total expenditure Incurred (b) It so. the tune b} which Go\ernment thereon; will tak~ a tmal decl~lon thereon" (d) whether Go\- ernemnt propose to set THl MINISTER OF STATE IN THE up more ~uch plants, D[PARrM~Nl OF CHEfvtlCALS AND PFRTROCHfM1CAlS IN THE ~1INISTR' OF leI It so the sites selected theretor' and INDUS1R'Y (SHR' R.K JAICHANDRA SINGH). (d) and (b) Tht:' report ot the (t) It not the I easons thereof? working Croup (onstltuted to examine the posslbihty of setting up ot a petrochemICal complex at Baraulli III Bihar has ,ust been THE MINISTER OF ENERGY {SHRI VAS- re(("lv~d ANT SATHE): (a) and (b). The Power plants set up at Tlmarpur based on garbage incin- (Englr~h) eration is under trial operatIon at different 4rrangement to sell daily need itenls lo~ds and connected to the grid. The plant including Desi Ghee by Super Bazar w.1I be taken over from the contracting finn only after operations and thereafter regul~r 2572. StiRI HAfiZ MOHO. 51DOIQ operations \\.11 start. 139 Written AnSWel'S NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers 140

(c) The total expenditure Incurred is Setting up of Wind Farms about Rs. 20 crores which is being financed under a soft term loan provided by the 2575 SHRI E AVYAPU R£DDY VV,lIthe Danish Government. MInister of ENERGY be pleased to stelle

(d) to (t) The Plant set up at T Irnarpur, (a) whether Unton Government have Delhi is a pilot R&D proJect. On successful proposed a scheme to set up fully and sustained functlonmg of thiS proJect, operational Wind Farm on a 48 acres site In setting up of more such plants will be Mullalkadu Village In Chldambaranath dls- considered No other site for setting up tnct, Tamil Nadu and three other Sites, VIZ such plants has so far been selected Pun In Onssa, Varaval In Maharashtra and Okha In GUJarat were also selected for the same purpose, Consumer Council in Delhi (b) the total amOtJtl of energy produced 257.J SHRI P.M SAYEED Will the by the pdot project In Tamil Nadu and the MinISter of FOOD AND CIVil SUPPLIES be prospects of the feasibility of Wind Energy pleased to state Fanns, and

(a) whether the Deihl Administration (c) the cost per umt as against the cost has constituted the DeIhl Consumer per Unit for thennal power and hydro Protection CounCil under the Consumer power energy? Protection Act, 1986; THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI (b) If so, the number and names of the VASANT SATHE) (a) Department of Non- members nominated to serve on the conventional Energy Sources have talen up Council; and all MW \\lOd faml project at Mullalladu Village In Tutlconn, Tamil Nadu A capant) (c) whether the CounCil Will receIve of 880 KW has already been COl1llniSSIOned complamts and suggestions tram the dunng 1986 and IS fully operational Similar people and adopt remedIal measures" wind fann projects have also been Installed at Puri in Onssa; Deogad In Maharashtra, Oidla and Mandv. In GUJarat. THE MINISTER O~ PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND (b) Over 20 lakh umts of electnClty CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI H K L BHAGAT) (a) were supplied to the State gnd uptD to (c). The Deihl Admlntstratlon has 30 9 87 from the wand farm project 111 constituted the Consume, Protection TutlConn [xcept tor Illillor problems"'W"ld CounCil compnslng of 79 Members under farm projects set up so far have by and Consumer Protection Act, 1986 The large operated successfully According to compOSition of thiS CounCil IS given m the present IndicatiOns large wand farm pro- statement laid on the table of the House Jects are feasible at several windy locations (Placed In hbrary See No IT-5117/871 In the country. The CounCil IS an adVISOry body whose object shall be to promote and protect the (c) Wand power generation cost rights of the consumers such as nght to depends on the Wind conditions at a given safety, nght to be Informed, right to location, unit size of machine and the choose, nght to be heard, nght to seek overall size of the project For 1 MW pro- redressal and nght to consumer education Jects undertaken so far usmg 55 KW Within the Unton Terntory of Deihl The machmes, generation cost has turned out suggestions of the CounCil Will be to be an the range of Rs 1 25/umt- recommendatory 10 nature The Consumer Rs 1 SO/umt Thec;e costs would compare Protection Act, 1986 envisages separate favourably If the it( tual (osts for, sllllliar quasi-Judicial machmery for redressal of sizes of Ilew thermal and hydpi p~Je(t~ consumer's complaants were to be (olls.dered 141 Written .An5WelS ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAIV\) Written Answers 142

Opening of Telephone Exchange at Uttan (b) the total requirement dunng 1987-88 in Thane District of Maharashtra and what IS the expected quantt ·"'l1 "If production during the year 1987-88; and 2576. SHRI S.C. CHOLAP: Will the MIOIster of COMMUNICATIONS be (c) what deCISion Government have pleased to state: taken on the recommended of the Planning Commission (a) whether he has announced that nearly almost all rural areas Will be covered THE MINISTER Of STATE IN THE by telephone so that telecommunication fa- DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Cility Will be made available to every Village DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF IN- atleast from 5 lms DUSTRY (SHRI M ARUNACHALAM) (a) No, Sir (b) If so, when and the details of exchanges likely to be opened an Thane (b) The production of cement dunng distract of Maharashtra Within next two 1987-88 IS hkely to be of the order of 41.50 years and million tonnes and the same would be able to meet the current requirements. (c) the time by which the exchange at Uttan (Maharashtra) IS likely to be (c) Does not anse In view of reply at (a) II1stalied 7 abvve However the Govenlment have been progressively redUCing the prace and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE distribution controls on the cement ,V\lNISTRY pF COMJ\\UNICATIONS (SHRI Industry In recent years No deCISion has SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) (a) Yes, Sir It IS been taken so far to decontrol cement tully planned to prOVide a telecommumcatlon faCIlity an every Inhabited geographical area Exploration in Dullipatti, Bihar bound by hexagon of 5 km Sides each as a long term obJectwe subject to avatlablhty of 2578 SHRI ABDUL HANNAN ANSARI fmanclal and matenal resources Will the ~lIllster of PETROLEUM AND NATU RAl GAS be pleased to state (b ) Tentatively by the year 1995 seven elCchanges at the Villages, gIVen below are (a) whether dniling work was started at planned to be opened 10 the next two Dullappattl 111 dlstnct Madhubant ot Bihar years about two years ago

I) Mokhada (b) whether gas and all reserves have II) Dolkhamb been found there, III) Potgaon IV) Sharsad (c) If so, the details thereof, and v) Badapolharan VI) VevJI (d) tt not, the tlllle b) \\ htch thiS work IS vlI)Uttan hlely to be completed?

(c) Tentatively In 1988-89 THE MINI~TER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAl GAS (SH RI BRAHMA DUm (a) The well at Decontrol of Cement Madhubana was spudded on 22.3.86.

2577 DR DAnA SAMANT Wall the (b) to (c) The dnlhng and testang of the MinISter of INDUSTRY be pleased to state well IS already o\er The well was meant for collection of subsurtace Intomlatlon for (a) whether the PLlnnlng ComnllSSlon tormulatmg the exploration strategy of the has recommended total decontrol of area and ther e \\ as no dlslovet) of 011 and cement .n the country, gas 143 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 19&7 Written Answers 144

Setting up of Gas Turbine Power Plants Application of Essential Commodities Act in Bijapur, M.P. by States

2579. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: 2580 ~HRI RAM BHO\C.AT PASWAl\t SHRI ARVIND NETAM: SHRI R P l)A~

Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased Will the MlIlIster of fOOD AND CIVIL to state' SUPPLIES be pleased to state (a) the pohcy of Union Government In regard to the settmg lip of gas turbllle (a) the names ot states where the state power plants Governments have applied Essential Commodities Act to take action against (b) whether CO\ er nmt'llt of MadhYd blackmarketeers and hoarders of essential Pradesh ha\e sent prop'-I~als tor settlllg up commodities, and gas turbme PO\\ er plants at RIJalpur \< Iliage of Guna Dlstnct and Bhander Tehsil near (b) the steps taken so far by the State Gwahjr, and Governments In thiS regard?

lC) the details thereot and the position THE MINISTER or PARLIAMENTARY In respect of supply of gas to these po", er AfFAIRS AND MINISTER Of FOOD AND plants from H B J pipeline? CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI H "L BHAGAT) (a) The Essential COl11l1locilt.es Act, 1955 IS ap- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE plicable to the whole of Jnd.a However, DfPARTMENT OF PO\\,ER IN THE the Essential Commodities {Special MINISTRY OF ENERC) ISH R"'1 AT I ProvIsions) Act, 1QS1 which came Into SUSHlLA ROHATCll tal Proposals III force on 1 9 1QS2 IS not applicable to the respect ot settmg up at gas turbll1e PO\\ er States of Arunachal Pradesh and Mlzoram plants are exarruned "-eeplllg 111 \ Ie\\. the and to the Umon 1 erntones of Andaman availability ot gas, tuel, the po\\er and NlCobar Islands, Dadra & Nagai Havel! reqUirement at the Region ar Id other and Lakshadweep relevant techno-economic considerations (b) The State Governments/U 1 shave been takmg enforcement measures under (b) and (C) In august, 1984, the Madhya the Essential CommociltJes Act, 1q55 since Pradesh ElectnClt\ Board (MPEB) has sub- ItS enqctment Acconhng to reports mitted a proposals In regard to a 3x100 received from the State Governments / MW Capacity gas turbine power station at U Ts dunng the year 1987 (from 1.1 1987 , ViJaypur In the Guna district, envisaging the to 17.11 1987), 137019 raids have been utilisation ot gas from Bombay High In the conducted, 4379 persons have been dr- absence of confirmed avallablhty of gas for rested, 3419 prosecutions launched and the proposed station, the scheme was not essential commodities worth Rs. 16.37 pursued crores have been confiscated seized.

Profit and Loss of State Electricity Boards In September, 1987, the MPEB forwarded a project report to the Central 2581. PROF PARAG CHALIHA. ElectriCity AuthOrity (CEA) for installation of SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA 3x100 MW gas turbine power station In the NARASIMHARAJA VADIYAK: Bhander tehsll of Gwahor dlstnct, envisaging utlhsatlon of gas from the H BJ Will the MInister of ENERGY be pleased plpehne The proposed scheme could be to state techno-economically appraised by the (fA after the availability of all Inputs, ancludlng (a) whether lane loss or transmiSSion gas and water, has been confirmed and loss has Increased 111 1985-86 and 1986-87 requIsite clearance have been obtamed In vanous ElectnClty Boards, • 145 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAIV\) Written Answers 146

(b) if so, the reasons therefor and Transmission & Distribution losses in the whether these reasons vary from state to vanous State Electricity Boards/Electncity state; Departments during the years 1984-85 and 1985-86 are given in the statement I (c) the present position, State-wise; below. These losses vary from State to State depending upon their system (d) whether power-houses under pnvate configuration. spatial Junsdictlon, nature of management and ,.,wnershlp show better loads, and system operatmg conditions etc. performance than public Sector Companies or Boards; (d) to (t) The performance of several Power Stations In the Public Sector (e) If so, the mam reasons therefor, compares favourably with those in the Pri- vate Sector. The variation in the Plant load (f) the details of plant-load factors of Factor of different thennal stations arise on vanous Central and State ElectnClty Boards account of various reasons which include of the country including those run by unavailability of the Plant due to forced Private Sector undertakmgs; and outage, planned maintenance shut-down, system load conditions, age of the plant, (g) the detail of loss and profit of ~rious etc. The details of Plant load Factors of Central and State Boards ot the country various State Electricity Boards and major mcludll1g those of Pnvatp Undertakmgs for Central Sector and Private Sector Under- the last three years? takings are given in the Statement-II below.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT Of POVVER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENlRCY (SHRIi\1ATI (g) The requisIte information is given in SUSHILA ROHATCI) tal to (e) The the Statement-III below.

STATEMENT·.

TransmiSSIOn and Distribution Losses In State ElectriCIty Board/ElectriCIty Deptts.

State ElectriCity Percentage T & D losses Board / Department 1984-85 1985-86 • -. ._ .. - ...-...... _.-.-..-... 1 2 3 4 1 Haryana 22.17 19.84

2- Himachal Pradesh 22.03 20.22

3. Jammu & Kashmir 39.63 35.85

4. Punjab 19.27 18.82

5. Rajasthan 24.75 26.54

6. Uttar Pradesh 21.66 20.50

7. Challdigam 27.23 18.90

8. D.E.S.U. 23.35 18.00

1. Gujarat 24.09 25.50 14' Written Mswas NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers 148

1 2 3 4

2. Madhya Pradesh 20.30 18.90

3. Maharashtra 14.52 14.51

4. Goa, Daman & Diu 24.64 20.43

1. Andhra Pradesh 20.70 19.19

2. Kamataka 23.71 22.50

3. Kerala 24.33 24.60

4. Tamil Nadu 19.32 18.70

5. Pondicheny 19.94 18.00

1. Bihar 22.83 22.48

2. Orissa 18.14 23.00

3. Sikkim 20.21 18.20

4. West Bengal 23.91 23.13

5. Andaman & Nicobar 18.58 15.11 Islands

1. Assam 22.28 19.98

2. Manipur 61.34 ~5.00

3. Nagaland 16,46 20.00

.t, Tripura 30.54 30.50

5. t.Alzoram 44.58 43.63 STATEMENT·II Thermal Power-Stations and Plant Load Factor During 1986-87 and 1987-88

Power Planlludd Factor (IYb) Stations 1986-87 1987-8~ (April-October) 2 3 Central Sector N.T.P.C. Badarpur 52.6 57.8 149 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (S,4KA) Written Answets 150

1 1 '3

Singrauli STPS 74.3 78.4

KorbaSTPS 80.6 73.0

I Rama Gundam STPS 82.0 68.0

Farakka STPS 46.1 22.9

Neyveli 74.8 68.0 D.v.e.

Chandrapur 40.7 39.8

Durgapur 50.9 43.2

Bokaro 49.3 29.8

II. State Bectricity Boards D.E.S.U.

I.P. Stn 66.1 44.9

ijaryana

f'bad Extn. 44.1 -«.6

Pamput 27.1 35.7

Rajasthan

Kota 54.8 67.2

Punjab

Bhatinda 58.9 67.2

Ropar 78.1 62.3

Uttar Pradesh

Obra 37.8 49.6

Pank. 52.9 26.7

H'GanjA 16.1 37.6 H'GanjB&S 40.7 43.1

Paricha 50.0 26.2 151 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answets 152

1 2 3

Anpara 71.9 51.0

GUJarat

Duvaran (T) 64.3 63.9

Ukal 51.9 55.2

Gandhi Nagar 48.3 52.7

Wenakbon 51 3 61.3

Utran r--

Maharashtra

Naslk 627 633

Koradl 41 0 484

Paras 358 406

Bhusawal 0199 51 '"

Part. 457 602

Chandrapur 567 490

Khaperkheda

Uran CT

Madhya Pradesh

Satpura 526 485

Korba-I 470 363

Korba-II 61 2 61 0

Korba·'" 46'" 532

Amarkantak 609 401 7

Korba West 537 477

Andhra Pradesh

Kothagudem A 593 647

Kothagudem B 0145 685 Kothagudem C 648 67.0 153 Written AnSwelS AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Written AnswefS 154

1 2 3

Vijaywada 90.1 89.8

Ramagundem B 79.6 67.9

Nellore 64.3 59.1

Karnataka

Raichur 45.6 53.8

Tamil Nadu

Ennore 48.8 56.4

Tuticorin 76.1 71.5

Mettur

Bihar

Patratu 33.0 30.2

Barauni 29.3 284

Muzaffarpur 41.8 33.4

Orissa

Talcher 31.7 33.2

West Bengal

Bandel 55.3 58.7

Santaldih 26.9 26.4

Gas Turbme

Assam

Chandrapur 59.4 63.9

Namrup 30.4 55.&

Bongaigaon 9.2 14.8

Gas Turbine 42.5

III. Private Sector

Ahmedabad Electri- city Co. 64.5 57.1 155 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers 156

- 1 2 3'

Tata Electronic Co. 63.2 78.3

Calcutta Electric Supply Corporation 56.0 53.1

STATEMENT-III

Profit/(Loss) of the State E~ectridty Boards/Major Central & Private Sector Undetiakitigs During 1983-84, 1984-85 and 1985-86 (Rs. in crores) , . State Electricity Boards 1983·84 1984·85 1985-86

1 2 3 4

1. Andhra Pradesh 10.7 49.7 14.4

2. Bihar (12.7) (9.7) (121.1)

3. Cujarat 14.9 36.1 (1.70)

4. Haryana (40.7) (74.0) (75.31)

5. Himachal Pradesh (11.1 ) (22.4) (8.27)

6. Karnataka 13.3 10.8 (17.0)

7. Kerala (11.7) 9.7 4.95

8. Madhya Pradesh (1.5) (18.2) 65.95

9. Maharashtra (28.0) (33.1 ) 51.63

10. Orissa (1.7) (12.5) (29.50)

11. Punjab (1604) (6.6) (6.39)

~2. Rajasthan (46.3) (73.5) HS.S)

13. Tamil Nadu (3.1) 8.7 27.88

14. Uttar Pradesh (30.2) (42.0) (1.10)

15. West Bengal (68.8) (35.3) (29.91)

16. Assam (36.4) (43 .... ) (115.28)

17. Meghalaya (0.5) (2.1) (2,43) 157 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (S,W\) Written Answers 158

1 2 3 4

Central Sector

Profit/(loss) after tax

1. National Thermal Power Corporation 44.90 87.54 182.95.

Private Sector

After Statutory Appropriation but before payment of dividends.

1. Ahmedabad Electricity Company Umited. (A.E. Co.) 4.77 4.37 5.38

2. Tata Electric Co. 6.80 4.09 2.81

3. Calcutta Electric Supply Corporation (CESC) 1.46 1.69 Not available

Growth Rate for Public Sector Units (b) whether non-availability of automatic telephone system is causing enormous 2582. SHRI TARIQ ANWAR: Will the problems to the trade and industry of the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: city; and

(a) the growth rate expected for the (c) the time by which steps will be taken Public Sector Units during the Seventh Five to provide this essential facility? Year Plan period; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) the details thereof? MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN OEV): (a) No, Sir. The THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE project for installation of automatic DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL exchange at fanukhabad was sanctioned DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF IN- during 1985 itsetf. DUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM): (a) and (b) In terms of investment, the (b) some of the problem faced by the overall annual compounded growth rate is trade and industry now may be overcome expected at about 15% rising from Rs. after the commissioning of the automatic 42.791 crores as on 31.3.85 to about Rs. exchange. 86.000 Cfores on 31.3.90: (c) the automatic exc~nge at Automatic Telephone System in Farrukhabad is likely to be commissioned Farrukhabad by the year 1990-91.

2583. SHRI KHURSHID AlAM KHAN: Shifting of Telephone Connections in will the Minister of COMMUNICA- Delhi TIONS/be pleased to state:

(a) whether the suggestion for installing 2584. SHRI SWAMI PRASAD SINGH: automatic telephone system in Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS farrukhabad is pending for a long time: be pleased to state: 159 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers 160

(a) the fonnalities a subscriber has to telephone connection in any category a undergo for !>hifting of a telephone subscriber is required to apply in the connection in each category; prescribed fonn, available free of charge.

(b) the charges for shifting of telephone connections in each category either within (b) The charges for shifting of telephone or outside an exchange;and connections in any category are as given below: (c) the time schedule fixed to deal with complaints of faulty working of telephone connection? (a) From one position to another in the same room: Rs. 75 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI (b) In other cases within or outside SONTOSH tv10HAN DEV): (a) For shift of a the exchange:--

Capacity of exchange system Shifting Charges Remarks

i) Less than 500 lines 150/-

Ii) 500 lines and above 600/- (If the subscriber provides his own intemaJ.tltt1ng a rebate of Rs~ 300/-is allowed.

(c) The time prescribed for clearing the has been called for from all the units and complaints of faulty telephones is given will be placed on the Table of the House as below: early as possible.

i) 85% of the total complaints are Consumption of Industrial Alcohol required to be cleared within 2 hours. 2586. SHRI MODH. MAHFOOZ All KHAN: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be ii) 95% of the total complaints are to be pleased to state: cleared within 4 hours. (a) whether the consumption of the iii) Complaints received during last two industrial alcohol in the count')' has COBle hours· of linemen's duty and during down considerably; Ilight are to be dealt with the next day. (b) if so, what is the comparative percentage of decline in the consumption Arrears of Telephone Bills of industrial alcohol during the last two years (till date) stating the reasons therefor; 2585. DR. A,_K. PATEl: Will the Minister and of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state the arrears to telephone bills as on 31 (c) the estimated surplus stock of indus- October, 1987 against each of the Ex-MPs., trial alcohol in the country an the coming former Ministers and also the recognised six months and what are the possibilities of political parties? its consumption? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): The information DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND 161 Written Answets AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 162

PETRO- CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY OF sales, there may not be much accumulation INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. JAICHANDRA of alcohol and any estimation of such future SINGH): (a) and (b):) The consumption of stocks is not possible. alcohol for industrial purposes declined by 8% in the alcohol year 1984-85 (December 1984-November, 1985) and by 14% in the Mining of Lignite in Rajasthan alcohol year 1985.:-86 (December, 1985- November, 1986) as compared to the 2587. DR. P. VALLAl PEt

(Rs. in croresJ

Mine I 261.10

Mine II (Stage I & Stage II) 411.57

Thennal Power Station I 90.40

Thennal Power Station II 618.88 (Stage I & II including transmission lines)

Briquetting de Carbonisation Plant 34.09

Fertiliz.nt 47.24

Process Steam Plant 9.90

Clay Washing Plant 0.2~

Others (inclUding geC!logical exploration work in and around Neyveli, Rajasthan area etc.) 46.24

Total: 1519.64

(b) Detailed drilling is in progress in ,0- mated only. atter the feasibility report IS tential lignite areas of Rajasthan. Cost :>f prepared. . the Rajasthan maRing proJett can be esti- 163 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written AnswetS 164

Shortfall in Coal Production taken a policy decision that until the State Government complete the process of land 2588. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY: acquisition and infrastructural facilities, no Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to thermal or hydel power projects will be state: cleared; and

(a) whether there is considerable (b) if so, the States which have not shortage in production of coal as compared provided land and infrastructural facilities; to the requirement of coal in India; and

(b) the steps initiated to improve the (c) the steps taken by Union present rate of coal production during the Govemment in this regard? current year to achiev~ the targeted production by the 2000 A D.; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE (c) whether in order to improve the MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI production of coal Government propose to SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) to (c). The clear the proposal to develop Nigahi open infonnation is being collected and will be cast mine in Singrauli Coalfields; and laid on the Table of the House.

(d) if so, the details thereof? Bifurcation of P& T Services

THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI 2590. SHRI HUSSAIN DAlWAI: Will the VASANT SATHE): (a) No, Sir. Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (b) Plans have been drawn up for development of coal resources in the (a) whether the Posts and Telegraphs country. As per projections annual coal services have been bifurcated; production will be 226 m.t., 325 m.t. and 217 million tonnes for the Seventh, Eighth (b) if so, the reasons for thiS bifurcation; and Ninth Five Year Plans respectively. The and steps being taken to augment coal production include improvement of (c) whether on account of thiS production capacity by investment in bifurcation the sub-post offices have reorganisation of existing mines, opening suffered loss of business and are running in of new mines and augmentation of in- losses? frastructural facilities and support services. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE . (c) and (d). Yes, Sir. MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) to (c). No, N.gahl Opencast !'"'me In Singrauli Sir. This is not exactly so, Government of Coalfield is expected to commence coal India had reconstituted the Ministry of production in 1991 and state I of the pro- Commumcations with effect from 4.1.1985 ject is expected to reach full capacity of to consist of two Departments, namely, production of 4.2 million tonnes by 1995. Department of Posts and Department of Estimated cost of the project is Rs. 462.39 Telecommunications. However, combined crores. post and telegraph offices which are under the Department of Posts continue to Policy Decision for Oearing·Power provide telegraph services as before. Projects When the Telegraph work ()f a 2589. PROF. K.V. THOMAS: Will the combined officer reaches the level of 500 Minister of ENE RGV be pleased to-state: operations per day, normally, the telegraph branch is converted into a separate (a) whether Union Government have Departmental Telegraph Office (DTO) 165 Written AnswetS ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAICI\) Written Answers 166 under· the Department of With the Chief Executive Officer and the Telecommunications and the establishment Financial Adviser of the Commission who of the post office is correspondingly are the ex-officio members as per the reduced. This is an old procedure and was arnended Act, the Commission has been in force prior to 4-1-1985, also. functioning. The full Commission will be Tbr nro1j~/loss of if\dividual post offices constituted as soon as possible. is not linked to the telegraph business. On an aggregate basis, the expenditure in- Sanction to Pench Therplal Power currecJ by the postal department on tele- Station and Sanjay Gandhi Thermal graph services is transferred to the Tele- Power Proj~Madhya Pradesh com. Depa(tment. rTranslation 1 2592. SHRI ARVIND NETM1: Will the Re-constitution of me Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: 2591. SHRIMAl'. VI DYAVATI (a) the time by which Government CHATURVEDI: WiD the Minister of INDUS- propose to accord sanction to Pench TRY be pleased to state: Thermal Power Station for building up 420 (a) whether it is a fact that the megawatt installed capacity·as there is reconstitution of the Khadi and Village inordinate delay in the Implementation of Industries Commission is pending for the hydel project, Bodhghat (500 megawatt) last one year, and Sanjay Gandhi Thermal Power project (420 megawatt) of Madhya Pradesh; and (b) if so, whether it is a fact that many policy matters are pending because of not (b) whether sanction by Union constituting the Khadi and Village Government is necessary to the phase II of I ndustnes Commission formally; and Sanjay Gandhi Thennal Power Station and the Pench Thermal Power Station keeping (c) the time by which Government in view the power requirement of Madhya propose to constitute the aforesaid Pradesh as per the Twelfth Annual Energy Commission? Survey Report prepared by the Central Electricity Authority? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF IN- DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE DUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM): (a) to MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRlMATI (c). The extended term of the last Khadi SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) and (b). The and Village I ndustries Commission expired proposed Pench thermal power station on 31st October, 1986. Thereafter, the (2x210 MW) could be considered for Khadi and Village Industries Commission approval after the statutory requirements, Act, 1956 has been amended on the basis under Section 29 (2) of the Electricity of the recommendation of the KVI Review (Supply) Act, 1948, have been complied Committee under the chairmanship of Shri with the Madhya Pradesh Electricity Board M. Ramakrishnayy~ former Deputy (MPEB), necessary inputs, Including avail- Governor of Reserve Bank of India to ability of water and provision of funds, provide for restructured Commission with have been tied up and necessary regional representation and for inclusion of clearances, including from the en- experts in science and technology, rural de- vironmental angle, have become available. velopment, marketing etc. for·a longer term of five years. These amendments together A proposal in respect of Phase-II of the with the amended KVIC Rules- were Sanjay Gandhi thermal power station notified for implementation in July 1987. (2x210 MW) was received in the CEA from Shri M. Arunachalam, Minister of State for the MPEB in October, 1984. Subsequently, I ndustrial Development in the Ministry of the MPEB intimated that an installation of Industry has been appointed as Chaimlan two units of 500 MW each (in lieu of 210 of tbe Commission w.eJ. 7th August, 1987. MW units) was proposed. The revised 167 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answets 168

feasibility report has yet to be received in the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to the CEA. state:

Madhya Pradesh 1S expected to meet its (a) the distribution policy of peaking and energy requirements with a Govemment in respect of 6-Amino capacity addition of about 947 MW Penicillanic Acid; programmed during the Seventh Plan and of 2005 MW during the time frame 1990-91 (b) whether Government are aware that to 1994-95 some of the manufacturers in private sector are charging higher price than the selling Unking of Azamgarh with Big Cities by price fixed by Government; 5.T.O. (c) if so, the steps Government propose 2593.SHRI SANTONS KUMAR SINGH: to take against such defaulters; SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: Will the Minister of (d) whether the Indian Dru2S and COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: Phannaceutical limited and Hindustan AntibiotICs limited are able to supply (a) whether the number of telephones regularly 6-Amino Penicillanic Acid to the in Azamgarh has substantially increased; consumers; and (e) the capacity of 6-Amino Penicillanic (b) if so, the action being taken to Acid of these two companies and how modernise the telephone exchange; much 6-Amino Penicillanic Acid they have (c) whether Government propo!»e to set supplied between 1 April, 1987 to 31 up an electronic exchange there; October, 1987? (d) if so, the details thereof; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS' AND (e) the extent of work done to link PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY OF Azamgarh district and Maunath Bhanjan INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K JAiCHANDRA with all the major cities by STD and the time by which this scheme will be imple- SIN~H): (a) 6-Amino Penicillanic Acid mented? (GAPA) is a canalised item and is distributed to actual users as per their entitlements. THE MINISTER Of STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATION (SHRI (b) No specific instances have been SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) Yes, Sir brought to the notice of the Government.

(b) to (0). A,., on 3l.3.8i, Azamgam is (c) Does not arise. already a 1000 lines MAX-II Automatic Exchange. (d) Yes, Sir. There IS no plan to COflVert it Into elel.- tronic exchange at present. (e) The installed capacity per annum for 6 APA of MIs Indian Drugs and Phanna- (e) The scheme for linking Azamgarh ceuticals Limited (IDPl) and Hindustan with big cities by STD is approved. The Antibiotics limited (HAL) is 47 MT and 35 building works at Azamgarh and Maunath MT and the supplies made by them are Bhanjan are ready. The scheme is targeted 4.58 MT and 7.3 MT respectively during for commissIoning dunng 7th plan. the relevant period.

[English] Non-Supply of Coal to Cujarat State Electricity Board Distribution Policy of 6-Amino Penicillanic Acid 2595. SHRI RANJIT SINGH GAEKWAD: w;II the Minister of EN ERey be pleased to 2594. ~RI DAl LHANDER JAtN: Will ." state: 169 ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909~} Wtitten~ 170

(a) whether the Gujarat State Electricity MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI Board is facing financial constraints for SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) to (c). Out of a making payment against the coal supplies total of 27221 inhabited villages as per to run thermal units of the State; 1971 census in Andhra Pradesh, 24810 villages had been electrified at the end of (b) if so, whether the coal despatches to September, 1987. The electrification of the Gujarat State Electricity Board have been remaining villages in Andhra Pradesh is ex- stopped owing to non-payment; pected to be achieved in the Seventh five Year Plan. (c) whether the thennal power units will have to shut down if the coal is not Foreign Collaboration for Setting up delivered in time to the State Electricity Ugnite Mine and Power Project in Board; Rajasthan

(d) the details of coal in quantity and 2597. DR B. L SHAllESH: Will the Min- value which is denied owing to non- ister of EN ERCY be pleased to sbte: payment; (a) whether eight European countries (e) the amount pending for payment by have offered to collaborate in the lignite Gujarat State Electricity Board to coal mines mine and power project in Rajasthan; against the quantity of coal delIVered as on 31 October, 1986; and (b) whether any country has offered rupee payment terms; if so, the details (f) the steps prop~e(i tv be talpn t(\ thereof; and deliver coal to Gujarat State E:ectncity Board to enable it to run the Thermal (c) the final decision of Government? Power Units of the State? THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE VASANT SATHE): (a) to (c). A number of DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE European countries .ncluding those With MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI which India has rupee payment SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) to (f). The arrangement have made preliminary information IS being collected and will be enquiries about the possibility of extending laid on the Table of the House. co-operation in the development of the integrated mine and power project in Electrification of Villages in Andhra Rajasthan. Final decision on foreign Pradesh collaboration can be taken only after feasibility report for the project is prepared. 2596. SHRI MANIK REDDY: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Merger of ~ Mines Labour Welfare Fund and Coal Mines Rescue Stations (a) the number of Villages so far with Cil electrified in Andhra Pradesh as on 30 October, 1987 under Twenty Point rural 2598. DR. SUDHIR ROY: Will the electnficatton programme; Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state:

(b) the number of villages expected to (a) whether Department of Coal has be electrified in that State by end of reviewed the situation since merger of Coal Seventh Five Year Plan period; and Mines labour Welfare Fund and Coal Mines Rescue Stations with Coal India ltd; (c) the time by which all the villages in Andhra Pradesh are likely to be electrified? (b) if so, whether the assessments are positive; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE (c) whether Coal India Ltd. have 171 NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written MsweJS 172 developed the requisite infulstructure and (a) whether there is any improvement in the adion plan; and the production and distribution of soft coke; (d) if so, the essential features thereof? (b) if not, the reasons thereof; and THE MIN~STER Of ENERGY (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. The (c) the steps taken or proposed to be Department of Coal constantly keeps itself taken for improving the production and abreast of the situation both in regard to distribution of soft coke? safety and welfare through meetings and/or correspondence. The Coal India THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI Umited has been asked by the Department VASANT SATHE): (a) and (b). The to continue all the activities of the erstwhile production of soft coke has registered a Coal Mines Labour Organis,atlon and Coal decline in the past few years as can be Mines Res(."Ue Stations and make efforts to seen from the following figures: improve upon them in a phased manner. The ~·t'!H=are fund of the Cll is being 1985-86 1986-87------1987·88 ~ted year after year to enable the (~ril-Sept.l. coal companies to step up their welfare 1.72 mt. 1.52 mt. o .67 mt. activities in areas like housing, sanitation, medkal and educational care, provision of The reasons for the fall in production safe drinking water etc. In fact, as against a are: Coal Companies do not find it paltry sum of Rs.ll.88 crores spent by the remunerative to produce soft coke which CMlWO on the welfare activities in 1985- involves a labour intensive and Small Scale 86, the Cll spent about Rs. 102 crores in operation. The companies which have the the same year on such activities. right quality of coal for production of soft coke were already incurring heavy losses (c) and (d). The Cll has a strong infra- and have other outlets for the raw coal. structure to undertake all the activities of the erstwhile Coal Mines Labour Welfare Soft coke production by the following fund Osganisation and, in fact, to do mo, companies, BeCl, CCL and Eel is allocated than that. A Welfare Board has alreadY to a number of State Governments by the been constituted at ell level, including Department of Coal at an administered workers representatives and similar Boards price of Rs.175/- per tonne ex-colliery for are being set up for subsidiary companies. domestic consumers and Rs.300 per tonne These Boards are to prepare action plans ex-colliery for industrial consumers. The to augment the different activities of the bulk of the production goes to the States, erstwhile Coal Mines Welfare Organisation. of Bihar and West Bengal. Among other A consultant has been appointed to sug- States, UP and Deihl, also get relatively gest meagJres to improve the medical ser- substantial quantities and Rajasthan and vices in the Central Hospitals at Jagjivan Gujarat some what smaller quantities; most Nagar, Ohanbad and Kalla, AsansoI. Coal of the other States get negligible quantities. India Ud. have also drawn up schemes to In view of the declining quantities available improve the operational capabilities of the and high transport charges, the distribution Resale Stations. A four member Committee is concentrated in areas nearer to the has been constituted by the Coal India producing centres. limited to suggest measures to improve resaJe services in its mines. (c) The Coal Companies are being directed to increase production of the soft coke so as to make available larger Improwement in Production and quantities to the States. To encourage the Distribution of Soft Coke use and increase the availability of soft c9ke, the Central Mine PlanninR and De- 2599. DR. SUDHIR ROY: Will the sign Institute, Ranchi (CMPDll), a Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: lubsidiary of Coal India Ud. hawe 173 Written AnswetS ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 ($AKA) Written Answets 174 developed a new technology 'tor the 19]dukki manufacture of smokeless solid fuel, plants 20.lrinjallcuda for which can be established in the Small 21.Kalpetta Scale Sector, also obtainin& bye-products 22.Kalady which at present are wasted. This 23.Kottayam technology has received a good response 24.KotharnangIam from the Eastern States. 25. Kottarkkara 26lCozhikoi1e s. T.0. Facility in Kerala 27.KoIancherry 'J8.KLIndara 2600. SHRI SURESH KURUP: Will the 29. Kunnamkulam Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be 30.Malappruam pleased to state the names of towns/cities 31.Manjeri in Kerala which are always connected with 32.MaveJikara STD facility and those likely to be linked 33.Movathapuzha with STD facility during 1987 -88? 34.Munnar 35. Narakkal THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 36. Neyyattinkara MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI 37.0lavakkot SONTOSH MOHAN DEY): Names of 38.01bJr towns / cities in Kerala which are already 39.Palghat connected with srD facility are listed in the 40.Palai statement below. Following cities/towns in 41. Pathanamthitta Kerala are likely to be linked with SrD fa- 42.Payyanur cility during 1987-88:. 43.Perumbavoor 1. Alathur 2. Kanhangad 44.Punnalur 3. Kayamkularn • 4. Mala 45.Quilon 5. Mannar 6. Nileshwar 46.Quilandy O. Parur 8. Pandalam 47.Shertalai 9. Ponnam 10. Tellicherry. 48.T alliparamba 49. Tiruvalla ------50.Tirur STATEMENT 51.Thodupuzha 52.Trichur Town/Gties ;n Kera/a Connected with SID 53.T rivandrum Facility S4.Vaikom 55. Vijhinjam 1. Adoor 2. Aigappanagar Mode of Transport Used to Transport 3. Alleppey Ordinary Letters Posted in Cities of Goa 4. Alaye 5. Angarnaly 2601. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: Will the 6. Atlngal Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be 7. Badagara pleased to state: 8. .Baliapattam 9. Cannanore (a) the mode of transport used by postal 10.Chenganur department to transport ordinary letters 11.Chalakudy posted in the cities of Panaji, Mapsa, 12.Changancherry Vasco-de-Gama, Ponda and Marga<» of the 13.Cherpur State of Goa; 14.Chowghat 15.Chingavanam (b) whether the postal department uses 10. Cranganur both air and rail transport; if so, the 17.Emakulam percentas~ of postal articles sent by air and 18.Guruvayur rail separately, 175 Written Answets NOVEMBEl24, 1987 176

(c) in what cases _ transport IS used posted i •• ·Goa are: and in what cases rail; and (i) Departmental mail motor Services (d) the details thereof? (ii) State Transport buses THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY Of COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI ~iilaaild SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a). Modes of transport used for conveyanCP of mails (iv~ Air Services.

(b) 8nth air and rail transport are used.

(i) percenQge of postal ap"proximately articles sent by Air ·30%

(ii) percentage of postal approximately articles sent by rail -lO% ------te) and (d). First class and surcharged Shahjahanpur dIStricts of Uttar Pradesh; second class mails for places connected by air and places for which air transmission is (b) if so, the names of the places in advantageous for early delivery are these districts where gas agencies and transmitted by air. Rest of mails are petrol pumps are proposed to be opened; transmitted either by rail/road or both. and

(c) if not, the reasons therefor? of LPG Apndes .... Petrol ()pel"...... at ...... , Sitapur, THE MINISTER OF STATF OF THE Hardoi ...... in u., MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAl. GAS (SHII BRAHMA DUm: (a). Yes, Sir, 2602. SHRI KAMlA PRASAD RAWAT: Wdl the Minister of PETROLEUM AND (b). The required information is given NATURAl GAS be pleased to state: in the statement below

(a) whether Govemment propose to (c) Does not arise in view of part (b) open new gas agencies and petrol pumps above. in Barabanki, Sitapur, Hardoi atvl STATEMEff( 1. LPG DISTRIBUTORSHIPS

s. No. Name at the Location Qisbid

1 2 3 1. 1ClJdauI. Barabanki 2. L1harpur r 3. Biswan . sru 4. Sitapur -do- S. Hardoi Hanloi 6. Shahabad -GO- 7. Sandila -do- 8. Shahajhanpur Shahajahanpur 9. aTilhar -do- 177 Written Answers t ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAIV\) Written Answers 178

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1. Bhelsar Crossing Faizabad lucknow Road Barabanki 2'. Barabanki N H -do- 3. Dewa Town -do- 4. Allapur~kuroli(on-lucknow Barabanki Rd.) -do- 5. Haidergarh (Between Muzaffarpur and Komti) -do- 6. Safedabad -do- 7. Rudauli -do- 8. Balamau Hardoi 9. Mallawa -do- 10. Mallawan -do- 11. Hardoi-Bilgram Road -do- 12. Hardoi-Lucknow Road -do- 13. Sikandra Cr~ing -do- 14. ~ilgram Road (Outside Octroi) -rlo- 15. Sitarpur Road (Outside Octroi) -do- 16. Gopamau ... -do- 17. Rampur Mathura 51tapur 18. Mehboobabad -do- 19. Rascula -do- 20. Sitapur -do- 21. Pisanvah -do- 22. Atarai -do- 23. leharpur -do- 24. Jaitpur Shahjahanpur _ 25. Nigohi -do- 26. Sidhauh -do- 27. Allaganj -do-

Equity Participation by Tata and Birla 2. The Kamal refinery will have Mis Croups in Oil Industries Tata Chemicals Limited as the private , co-promotor.' :rhe public sector promotor 2603. SHRI R. P. DAS: Will tne Minister win' be fndiat'\ Oil Corporation. Each of of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL CAS be them ~I hold 26% of the equity and the pleased to state: rest will be :"lised from the public including non-resident Indians. (a) whether Government have allowed equity participation by the Tata and Birla 3. The proposed Mangalore refinery will Groups in respect of construction of two have Mis. Indian rayon corporation as the oil refineries; and private sector co-promoter with MIs Hindustan Petroleum Corporation as the (b) if so, the details thereof? public sector partner. In this case also each of the partners will hold 26% of the equity THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE the rest coming from the public including MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL non-r~ident Indians. . GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUll): (a) _and (b). Covemment of India have decided that a 6 Procurement ' of Rice in Haryana MTPA refinery be set up at Kamal in the jOint sector. It has also lleen decided a 2604. DR. B. l. SHAllESH: W,II the Detailed Project repott be 'preparea for.a 1 Minister of FOOD AND CIVil SUPPLIES be MPTA petrochemical refinery at Mangalore. pleased to state: 179 Written AnswetS NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Wrltten Answers 180

(a) Whether it has come to the notice of gines used in automobiles in India needs to gMmment that private traders are be changed considerable; moving good quality rice out of Haryana by exploiting the loopholes tn the levy order; (b) if so, whether any foreign firms have jeopardising government's efforts to been or are being commissioned by the maximise rice procurement to replenish Indian automobile manufacturers to evolve the dwindling food reserves; and fuel efficient engmes technology;

(b) if so ,the steps taken or proposed to (c) the broad details thereof; and be taken to plug these loopholes and achieve Government's overall rice procure- (d) the terms and conditio.. agreed ment target In the current kharif marketing upon by government and the outgo of season? foreign exchange tn each ease?

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY THE MINISTER OF ~ATE IN THE AfFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND OE"ARTMENT OF INDUSTllAl CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K.L BHAGAT): (a) DEVELOPME-NT IN THE MINISTRY OF IN- No such report has been received. DUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) The Indian automobile manufacturers have (b) Does not arise. In the recent past been perrmtted to upgrade their technology for the complete Measures Taken to Safepard Interest if vehicle or for the engine alone. This Depositors upgradation of technology has taken place in the passenger car, commercial vehicle, 2605. DR. 8. l. SH~LESH: Will. the and two and three wheeler sectors. How- Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state ever, some manufacturers of older models the measures taken by Government to of vehicles, in a bid to upgrade their engine bring to book the unscrupulous corporate technology, are explorin& the possibility of management defaulting 10 the non- tying up with reputed international payment of Interest and non-refund of the organisations. public depOSits on maturity With a view to provide effectIve and foolproof protection (b) to (d). One Qf the manufacturers, to the depOSitOrs? MIs. Premier Automobiles ltd., is discussing with MIs. AVl of Austria the possi- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- bility of upgrading the engine of their Pre- PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- rnier-Padmini models of cars. MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM): Provisions have been made for the repayment of pub- Setting up of Basic Drugs Unit in Orissa lic deposits in accordance With their terms and conditions, unless rfanewed in accor· 2607. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: Will the dance with the Compantes (Acceptance of MinISter ot INUU~I MY be pleased to state: Deposits) Rules, 1975, and also for, inter alia, the protection of the interests of the (a) Whether government have a public depositors, in the Companies proposal to set up a baSIC drugs un.t 10 (Amendment) Bill, 1987, introduced in Ra· Orissa; ;va Sabha on 31st August, 1987. (b) whether the basiC drugs umt IS gOing to be set up 10 1987-88; Fuel effICient Engine TechnolOgy (c) if so, the place in Onssa where it is 260&. OR.." 8. L SHAllESH: Will the proposed to be set up; and MINISTER OF INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (d) the steps taken to Implement the (a) whether fuel injection system pf en- above proposal? 181 Written AnswelS AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Written AnswelS 182

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- versely by the non-conventional methods PARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETRO- of power generation coming into opera- CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY OF IN- tion. DUSTRY (SHRI R.K. JAICHANORA SINGH): (a) No, Sir. Recommendation of Madan ICishore (b) to (d). 00 not arise. Committee on Extra Departmental Staff

SeUing up of New Method Generation 2609. PROF. NARA1N CHAND Plants in Bihar and West Bengal PARASHAR: Will the Minister of COMMU- NICATIONS be pleased to state: 2608. SHRI PURNA CHANDRA MALIK: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to (a) whether the Madan Kishore Com- state: mittee on Extra-Departmental Staff had recommended up-gradation of Ex- Ca) whether a new method of power tra-Departmental Sub-Offices in rural- a~eas generation has since come into operation; to the status of Departmental Sub-Offices or their downgradation to the level of Ex- (b) if so, the details thereof, tra-Departmental Branch Offices;

(c) how it will affect the coal mining in- (b) if so, whether such EDSOs as had dustry; the required workload for upgradation have since been upgraded and those which (d) whether there is any plan to set up did not have the workload down-graded, such new method generation plants in Bi- since the report was submitted; har and West Bengal; and (c) if so, the details of the cases, circle-wise, where the EDSOs have been (i) (e) if so, the details thereof; up-graded to DSOs, (ii) down-graded to EDBOs and (iii) allowed to continue as THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- such, alongwith the names of these offices PARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY in each category, district-wise, in Himachal OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA RO- Pradesh; and HTAGI: (a) to (e). New methods of genera- (d) if not, wnether all such EOSOs as tion of electricity by using alternative have their required workload would be up- sources of energy such as solar energy, graded to the status of DSOs as per rec- biomass, biogas, wind and ocean energy ommendation of the Committee? and through the magneto-hydro-dynamic (MH D) process are at an R&D / demonstra- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN- tion stage. An experimental MHO plant ISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI with the input capacity of 5MW has been SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) Th~. actual commissioned at Tiruchirapalli under the recommpndation was as follows: sponsorship of the Department of Non- Conventional Energy Sources. Several "Taking all factors into consideration, I demonstration power units using solar am of the opinion that there should not by energy, wind energy and biomass gasifier any EDSO even in smaller towns not justi- have been set up in different parts of the fying a ~holetime departmental sub post country, including Bihar and West Bengal. office or in rural areas. At such places, we may have a departmental sub-office if the Bulk of the power requirement in the workload is 5 hours or more, else only a country, will, however, continue ito;' be met branch post office. I accordingly recom- by the conventional thennakcoal-based)and mend that-- hydro-electrir generation,. ~ in the fore-

seeable future, there is little possibility of (i) there should be no Eosa both in I the coal mining industry being affected ad- urban and rural areas; 183 Written AnS~1S NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers

(ii) the eXISting offices In urban areas (d) No, Sir. Apart from workload, a should either be closed or con- pennissible limit of loss is also prescribed verted into departmental sub of- for upgradation of extra-departmental post fices. offices. Besides, there is also a continuing ban on creation of posts. (iii) existing EOSOs in rural' areas, should either be converted 'nto Constructions of Codowns in Himachal branch offices or sub offices Pradesh based on the above recommen- 2610. PROF. NARAIN CHAND dations. PARASHAR: Will the Minister of FOOD AN 0 CIVil SU PPU ES be pleased to refer to . (b) The recommendation referred to the reply given to Unstarred Question No. above was not implemented. Instead, the 335 on 28th July, 1987 regarding construc- following policy decision was taken by the tion of godowns in H. P. and state: then P&T Board in 1978: (a) the names or ole seven places In HI- "EDSOs may be allowed to continue as machal Pradesh along_ witK the names of at present and further EDSOs may be dlstncts where the Food Corporation ot opened by upgradation if they satisfy the India IS constructing godowns' .tnd following norms: (b) the estimated eJlpenditure involved and the likely dates of completion of these (i) An EDBO can be upgraded as an godowns in each case? EDSO if its existing workload is 4 hours or more but it not more THE MINISTER OF PARliAMENTARY than 5 hours; AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVil SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K..L BHAGAT): (ii) EDBOs having PCOs should be con- (a) The Food Corporation of India has ten- verted into EDSOs. tatively planned to construct godowns at the follOWing 8 centres in Himachal (c) Does not anse. Pradesh'-- -~ ....

SI No Centre D,stnct

1. Sh.mla Sh,mla .... L Noorpur KangN· 3 Baijnath Kangra 4. Parwanoo Solan 5. Hamirpur Ham.rpur 6. Chamba Chamba 7. Una Una 8. Kulu Kulu

(b) The capacity at Noorpur an(1 Una is Installation of Long Dist.ce Public Call expected to be completed by March, 1990. Offices in Himach~ Pradesh The schedule of construction at the re- 2611 PROF NAkAlN CHAND maining (, centres would be drawn up PARASHAR: Will the MInister of COMMU· subject to land at Identified sites being NICATIONS be pleased to state made available by the State Government. ect Subi to this, the total cost of construc- (a) whether any long distances peo:::. tion will be approximately Rs. 4 crores for a have beell Installed under the Hexagon total tentatively planned capacity of 30,840 Scheme In H.machal Pradesh dunng the tonnes. Seventh Plan; 185 Written AnswelS AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAAJ\) Written Answers 186

(b) if so, the names of the plac~ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN- district-wise, where such PCDs have beetl 'STR'V OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI (i) sanctioned, (ii) installed till date; and ~NTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) Yes, Sir.

(h) The information is given in the (c) the targets for each year of the statement given below, Seventh Plan in thIs regard and the actual achievement separately for each year In (c) The targets and achievments for Hi- each district? machal Pradesh, are given below:

Year Tar~et Achievement

1985-86 1 1

1986-87 7 8

1987-88 25 8 till 31-10.87

1988-89 Not yet fixed. 1989-90

STATEMENT

Sanctioned Distt Remarks

1 2 l 1. Kuthera Una

2. RaJpura Sirmor Opened an 1986-87.

3. Korga -do-

4. Kalar -do- Opened an 1985-86

5. Dhumlwar -do- 1986-87

6. Daghera -do- 1986-87

7. Deana -do- 1986-87

8 Bankalan -do- 1986-87

9. Naurdhar -do 1986-87

10 Dldog Khanota -do- 1986-87

11 PanJera Solan

12 Ladon Kangra

13. Harsl -do- Opened In 1986-87 14. Makran Mandl - 187 Written MsweIS NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answen 188

1 2 3

15. Basahi

Note: Names of IDPTs opened during 1987-88 are being collected.

0iIseeds Import and Estimated Shortfall proposal to Import, In ala basis, 5 lum in Edible Oil tonnes of oilseeds to be canahsed through National Dairy Development Board. -2612. SHRI MUllAPAllY RAMACHANDRAN: Will the Minister of Drilling of Wells in Seventh Plan FOOD AND CIVil SUPPLIES ~ pleased to state: 2613. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: Well the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL (a) She estimated shortfall in edible oi~ CAS be pleased to state: for the year 1987-88; a) the number of oil wells proposed to (b) whether Government have any defi- be drilled in the Seventh Five Year Plan pe- nite proposals for the distribution of the nod; imported oilseeds; and . (b) the details of areas Identified both (c) if so, the details thereof? offshore and onshore, separately, and

THE MINISTER Of PARUAMENTARY (c) the Investment proposed to be AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND made? CIVil SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K.L BHAGAn: (a) Crop estimates for the oil year 1987-88 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE are not available so far. However, due to MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL drought conditions in many of the oilseeds CAS (SHRI BRAt-lMA DUTI). (a):- Dunng growing states ot the country, shortage In the Seventh Five Year Plan penod, It IS the supply of Indigenous edible oils may proposed to drill about 2000 wells by continue. ONce and about 240 wells by all

(b) and (c). At present ollseeds are not (b) The details of the dniling being imported. However, there IS a programme are as follows

Oil & Natural Gas CommIssion Onshore exptbratary DevelOp, nent Weils Wt'IIs------_.------.. --~--~--,------~ CambayBasm 239 664 Kutch & Saurashtra 8 Rajasthan 16 Upper Assam & Assam Arabn fold belt 153 232

Krishna-Godavan 52 CJuyery 46 Bengal .- .B Himalayan foothills and Ganga Valley

529 968... 189 Written Answets ACRAHAYANA 3~ 1909~) Written Answets 190

Offshore Exploratory Wells Develooment Wells : Wells

Bombay 183 325 Kutch & Saurasthra 10 Kerata-Konkan 10 Sensa' 5 Krishna-Gndavari 14 Cauvery 21 Andaman 8

251 325 Oil India Umited Onshore 156 I\SSam & Arunachal oradesh ~1 Mahanadi (Ons~; 8 Rajasthan 6 75 156 Offshore

AOdaman 3 . ~rth East Coast 6· - 9

(c} The estimated expenditure on DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- drilling during the 7th plan period by MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY ONce is about Rs. 4500 crores and by oil (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM): (a) to (c). Ac.- India is about Rs. 500 crores. cording to the Deparbnent of power, there was a shortage of 26.7% in the availability of power as agairtSt demand in ~ Power Cut for Industries in Karnataka As on 7.11.87 there was a cfemaqd all: ranging from 0.2% and energy cut tiom 2614. SHRI S.H\. CURADD': 30% to 80% in the state to provide-16--24 SHRI C.S. BASAVARAjU: hours power supply to agriculture. Short- SHRI H.N. NANJE GOWDA: age of power is one of the factors adversely affecting industrial production, but no es- Will the Minister of , NDUSTRY be timate of loss production is available. pleased to state:

(a) whethel industrialists in Kamataka Import of Edible Oil by SIC are apprehensive of another power cut in view of the poor stronger position in the 2615. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: WiD reservoirs attached to the states; hydro- Minester of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPUES be power stations; pleas.ed to state: (b) if so, whether the industries in Kar- (a) whether Government have a nataka have suffered great loss due to proposal to import edible nil through the·· power cut; and State Trading Corporation of India; (c) whether Union Government have (b) if so, the name of the country~ftom agreed to help the industries which State Trading Corporation of India THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE proposes to import edible oil; 191 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers 192

(c) whether the State Trading Corpora- AfFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND tion of India proposes to import edible oil CIVil SUPPLIES (SHRI H. K. L BHAGA-n: on FOB basis; and Ca) Govemment of India is already importing edible oils through State Trading Cor- (d) if so, the quantum of edible oil poration of India. proposed to be imported by STC during 1987-88? (b) The names of the countries from which the edible oils are normally shipped THE MINISTER Of PARUAMENTARV are as follows:

Oil Countnes

Soyabean oil USA, Brazil, Argentina and Europe. Rapeseed oil Canada & Europe. Palm oil/Palmolein Malaysia & Indonesaa. -- ....__. (Cl There is a proposal to Import cer- Months Quantity In M.T. tain quantities of edible oils on FOB basis. Febtuary, 1987 51255 (d~l The quantum of edible oil to be imported is decided from time to time March, 1987 85565 keeping in view various factors such as gap between demand and supply, International Apnl, 1987 54044 prices and other related factors. May, 1987 86507

Edible 0i1lmport June, 1987 93070 2616. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEl: SHKI AKHTAR HASAN: July, 1987 139301

Will the Minister of FOOD AN D CIVil August, 1987 159106 ~UPPUES be pleased to state: September, 1987 204527 (a) the edible oil imported d~ring Jan- uaty-October, 1987, month-wISe, October, 1987 295680

(b) whether any agreement has been 1341043 signed In thiS regard and It so, the details In regard to each kind of edible 011 likely to be imported; and (b) S.T.C. Imports edible 011 through (e) the quantity supphed to each state parties under Individual contracts for each during the above penod? shipment. The quantum of edible otis to he imported is decided ,rom time to time fHE MINISTER ot- JlARlIAMI:NTARY keeping in view various factors such as gap AfF~IRS AND MINISTER Of fOOD AND between demand and supply, international CIVil SUPPLIES (SHRI H.KL BHAGAT: (at prices and other related factors. The Quantity of edible oil Imported dunn~ January-October, 1987, month-wISe IS ~ follows: (c) The statement in respect of quantity Months Quantity in M. T. of imported edible oils supplied to each State during January-October, 1987 is given January, 1987 171988 below. 193 Written AnswetS AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAIV\) Written AnswetS 194

STATEMENT (In M. 10nnes)

S.No. Name of the States/UTs Qty.SuppJies

1. Andhra Pradesh 74,858

2. Assam 1,847

3. Bihar 7,559

4. Gujarat 1,03,382

5. Haryana 5,228

6. Himachal Pradesh 8,189

7. Jammu & Kashmir 4,077

8. Kamataka 43,140

9. Kerala 31,405

10. Madhya Pradesh 20,461

11. Maharashtra 79,948

12. Manipur 7,609

13. Meghalaya 3,708

14. Nagaland 7,076

15. Orissa 13,916

16. Punjab 7,185

17. Rajastt an 5,599

18. Sikkim 876

19. Tamil Nadu 49,358

20. Tripura 984

21. Uttar Pradesh 8,752

22. West Bengal 1,00,572

23. A & N Islands 789

24. Arunachal Pradesh 1-15

25. Chandigarh 425 195 Written Answen NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answen 196 I

S. No •. Name of the States/UTs. Qty. Supplies

26. D & N Haveli 542

27. Delhi

28. Goa 4,257

29. lakshadweep 248

30. Mlzoram 1 379

31. Pondicherry 5,357

32. Daman

33. Diu

Total 6,11,813

Export of Industrial Alcohol INDUSTRY (SHRI R. K. JAICHANORA. SIN.GH): (a) Yes, Sir. 2617. SHRI BAlASAHEB VIKHE PATll: (b) to (c). The All India Distillers' Associ- SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ation (AI DA) has been allowed to organise All KHAN: the export of 500 lakh litres of alcohol directly or through their authorised nominees, _bject to the registration of con- Will the Minister of.' NDUSTRY be tracts with STC and payment of STC service pleased to state: charges. (f) A clear picture Will emerge after the (a) whether there has been any demand from the Distillers' Association for the ex- contract on is finalised by AI DA. On the basis of inquiries received by AJ DA, the coun- port of industrial alcohol; try is likely to earn a foreign exchange of about Rio, 18.00 crores on this quantity. (b) if so, the reaction of Union Govern- ment thereto; Development of Leather Industry 2618. SHRI Y.S. MAHAJAN. Will the (c) whether any decISion has been taken about the export of Industrial Minister of INDUSTRY be.pleased to state: alcohol; (a) whether Govemment are aware about the bottlenecks faced by the leather (d) if so, which will be the agency for industry, if so, the bottlenecks so export; it4entified;

(e) what will be the quantity of export; (b) what steps Government have taken and or propose to take for the proper development and modernisation of the (f) the amount of foreign exchange leather Industry as to make .t well· likely to be earned from such export? equipped to the growang needs of the domestic market and also to make it THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE export·oriented; and DEPARTMENT Of CHEMICAlS AND PETROCHEMICAlS IN THE MINISTRY Of (c) what efforts are beinS made by Cov· 197 Written AnSweB ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAM) Written Answers 198 emment to bring together the large busi- establishment of common facility centres, ness houses, multinationals, small scale prototype development of indigenous and medium scale producers in this leather and footwear machinery, assistance mdustry to adopt a common development in purchasing machinery for leather strategy? Footwear on hire purchase basis, and also exemption from excise duty for units with a THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tum over of Rs. 15.00 lakhs per annum. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVElOP- MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY While the Government have been (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to (c). The supporting the Small Scale Sector and the identification of bottlenecks faced by the decentralised sector 10 the manner leather I ndustry IS a continuing process indicated above, the Government have and remedial measures are initiated from been encouraging the organised sector to time to time by taking reviews at regular step up foreign exchange earnlOgs from Intervals. Shortage of raw matenal and leather products. The large scale untts are skilled manpower, and lack of training and allowed to set up Untts for manufacture of design faclhtles are among the Important leather Footwear and leather Goods if bottlenecks faced by the leather Industry these are set up In the centrally notified In the country, which has been Identified backward areas, subject to 75% export as one of the thrust areas for export. obligation With effect trom the thard year of Certain speCifiC steps have been taken to the commencement of commercial remove these bottlenecks to enable the production The MRTP and FERA com- Industry to keep abreast With the changing panies are also permitted to apply for set- technology, and also to manutacture so- ting up Units subject to the prOVISIOns of phisticated products, which would cater to the relevant Acts. These large scale un~ the needs of the to reign market The indus- wourd thus help In maxlmlsang the export try IS allowed to Import raw hides and earnmgs from leather products Without SkillS, crust leather and also fil1lshed JeopardiSing the Interests of the small scale leather from bovlns hides under OCl The and decentrahsed sector. In order to mdustry IS further allowed to import enable the Industry to modernISe Its leather flnlshmg auxilianes, and the main actiVities, applications for foreign raw matenals of leather auxilianes. such as collaboration, and requests for phenol, paraffin wax, napthalene etc. at a employment of foreign experts 111 leather concesslonal rate of customs duty Most at technology etc from all sectors of leather the machmes required for the manutacture Industry are conSidered very liberally. ot leather and leather goods have been put under OCL \\Ith reduced dut)', so that the Supply of Foodgrains to Karnataka mdust,) can replace old and worn out machmes With sophisticated ones to 2619 SHRI S.M GURADDI: produce quality leather and leather SHRI H.N. NANJE COWDA: products ot International standard Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVil The Small Scale and decentraltsed SUPPLIES be pleased to state seclor plays an Ifnportant role 10 the Leather Indust') In tact, the manufacture (a) whether Government ot Karnataka of leathe-r footwear and leather Goods has made ~ plea to Umon Government to Illdustnes are reserved for manutacture In meet the demand of foodgrain in the State; tile small scale sector The Government clnd Its agencies, like the Small I ndustraes (b) It so, the total foodgralns supplied to Development Organisation, Central that State trom September to November, ~ ootwear Technical Centres, National 1987; and Small Industries Corporation etc. have taken a number of measures for hetpll18 (c) the actual demand of that State and tillS sector. These Include provls'pn ot to what extent the .demand has been training and marketing facilities, fulfilled by Covemment; 199 Written AnSwel$ NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers 200

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY is presently as per demand of the State AFFAIRS AND MINISTER Of FOOD AND Government. CIVil SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K.L BHACAT): (a) Infonnation regarding their demand, al. to (c). The allocation of rice and wheat to lotment and offtake for the period Kamataka for the public distribution system September to November, 1987 is as under.·

(000' tonnes)

Demand Allotment Offtake

Rice 180.0 180.0

Wheat 75.0 75.0

-The offtake figure is upto October, 1987 only.

Import of Rice and Whe~t (c) Does not arise in view of (b) above.

SU8arc~ne 2620. SH RI S.M. CURADDI: Purchase Price of Fixed by SHRI KAMAL NATH: U.P. Government

2621. SHRI Y.S. MAHAJAN: Will the Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: Minister of FOOD AND CIVil SUPPLIES be pleased to state: (a) whether the United Nations food (a) whether it is a fact that Govemment and AgriOJlture Organisation has forecast of U.P. has directed the sugar mills to pay that India may need to import some Rs. 27 instead of Rs. 25 per quintal of sug· quantity of rice because of a substantial arcane; reduction in the kharif crop this year, (b) whether Union Govemment propose to continue to take over sugar (b) the quantum of import of rice and from the sugar mills at prices related to the other cereals during the years 1987-88 and minimum support price of Rs. 18 per 1988-89; and quintal of cane;

(c) the countries from which the cereals (c) if so, whether it will further enlarge will be imported and the approximate cost the gap between the minimum support of the same? price and the actual price which the sugar mills are asked to pay to the cane growers;

THE MINISTER Of PARLIAMENTARY (d) whether sugar mills will try to pass AfFAIRS AND MINISTER Of FOOD AND on to the farmers, the additional loss CIVIL SUPPUfS (SHRl H.K.l8HAGAT): (a). caused by the enhancement in the price of Yes, Sir; the FAO's report that India may cane etc.; and need to import some rice has come to the notice' of the Government. (e) if so, how Government propose to (b) There is reasonable quantity of protect the interest of farmers from stocks of foodgrains (wheat and rice) with malpractices 7 the public agencies at present. There has been no import of wheat and rice during THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY the year 1987-88 so far. However, the AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND Government keeps open the option to im- CIVil SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K.L BHACAT): port foodgrains as and when considered (a). As per reports the sugar factories in necessaty. U~r Pradesh have been advised to pay a 201 Written Answets ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAIG-\) Written Answets 202 price of Rs. 26 to Rs. 21 per quintal of . (d) whether Government will ensure sugarcane for 1987-88 season. payment of interest on their arrears;

(b). The statutory minimum price of (e) if not, the reasons thereof; and sugarcane payable by sugar factories during the 1987-88 season was announced in (f) the institutional steps under con- November, 1986 at Rs. 18.00 per qUintal sideration for ensuring prompt payment to linked to a recovery of 8.5 percent and the the cane growers at the time of delivery? price of levy sugar is computed on the basis of the statutory minimum price. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND (c) to (e). The statutory minimum price CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI H.KL. BHACAT): is only the floor price below which no (a). State-wise position indicating cane sugar factory can pay. Actual prices of price arrears as on 1st October, 1987, sugarcane paid by the mills depend on against sugar mills, including private factors like demand and supply, and other cooperatjve .and public sector mills, is local factors. They are not statutory. The given in the Statement below. Government policy of partial control allows 50% of the sugar produced to be sold in (b) and (c). Ensuring expeditious the open market. From the performance of payment of cane price is primarily the the sugar industry during the last couple of responsibility of the State Governments years, it would be apparent that higher who have the necessary powers and field sugarcane prices have been paid more organizations to enforce such payments. expeditiously. Therefore, the question of The Central Government monitors the passing on any losses to the growers position. The State Governments have would not arise and the farmers interest been addressed from time to time at the would continue to be protected, and any highest level for ensuring timely payment malpractice when brought to the notice of of sugarcane price. The Central the Government will be dealt with Government has also taken certain policy severely. measures to enable the sugar industry to make expeditious payment of cane price. These steps include raisin2 of the statutory Payment of Arrears to Sugarcane minimum price of sugarcane, increasing Crowers freesale proportion of sugar, granting rebate in excise duty for earlyflate crushing, 2622. SHRI KMUA PRASAD RAWAT: provision of suitable credit facilities to the SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAl: sugar industry, monitoring prices of SHRI CH. RAM PARKASH: freesale sugar so as to maintain them at SHRI MURLlDHAR MANE: reasonable levels etc. As a result of these SH RI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: measures and efforts of the State Govern- ments, the arrears for 1986-87 season as Will be Minister of FOOD AN 0 CIVil on 31st October have come down to only SUPPLIES be pleased to state: Rs. 9.77 crores which constitute only 0.5% of the total cane price. The arrears have (a) the amount of sugarcane growers' been the lowest in spite of record crusing outstanding against sugar mill owners and during the last season. Efforts are on to Government sugar mills all over the have the balance arrears cleared expedi- country as one the 1st October, 1987, tiously. State-wise; (d) and (e). There is a provision in the Sugarcane (Control) Order, 1966 that cane (b) whether Government are making ef- price to within 14 years forts for the payment of sugarcane arrears is be paid of the delivery of sugarcane. Primarily to the cane growers; responsibility for enforcing this provision also rests (c) if so, the time by which cane with the State Governments who have the Irowel'S will be paid their dues; necessary powers and field organisations 203 NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written AnsweIs 204

The State Chief Ministers have been ao tnerated, the Keserve Bank of India evalu- dressed recently in the matter. ates the credit requirements of the industry from time to time and reasonable credit fa- (f) As already stated, there is already a dlities are made available to the industry. provision in the Sugarcane (Control) Order In the States like Maharashtra and Gujarat, for making payments within 14 days. In advance prices are announced to enable addition to policy measures, already enu- the factories to make timely payments. STATEMENT Stlte-wise position of cc:1ne arrears as on 1st Octobel 1987. (Figures in Rs. ~khs) Cane price remaining unpaid as on 1st Oct. 87.

1986-87 season 1985-86 & earlier seasons

Andhra Pradesh 18.57 41.41

Assam 0.06

Bihar 419.55 93.90

Goa 29.62

Gujarat 17.56 53.60

Haryana 1.91 0.03

790.27 27.22

Kerala 20.56 40.94

Madhya Pradesh 2.02 3.62

Maharashtra 187.75 281.81

Napland 14.83

Orissa 0.24 0.33

Pondicherry 0.25 1.54

Punjab 9,48 Rajasthan 0.01 - Tamil Nadu 173.97 1.06

Uttar Pradesh 624.96 283.88

West Bengal 2.64 8.78

All India 2314.25 838.18 Dharna and Strike by Employees of DR. CHINTA MOHAN: Telegraph OffICes Will the Minister of COMMUNICA· 2623. SHRI MLWANT SINGH TIONS be pleased to state: 205 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 206

Telegraph Offices staged dhama and went THE MINISTER Of PARLIAMENTARY on hunger strike in support of their certain AFFAIRS FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES demands in the last week of October, (SHRI H.K.L BHAGAT): (a), Yes, Sir. 1987; (b) As on 15#8.87, the Food Corporation (b) if so, the details of the demands of of India had 40,000 tonnes issuable rice in the employees; and their godowns In Orissa. The quantity of rice lifted in Koraput district during August (c) the reaction of Government 1987 was 3723 tonnes against the sub- thereon? allocation of 3840 tonnes for the District.

THE MINISTER OF 5.TATE IN THE (c) As on 1st October, 1987, a quantity MINISTRY OF COMMUNICI\TIONS (SHRI of 40366 tonnes of issuable nee was avail- SONTOSH MOHAN DEV)' (a) Yes, Sir. able an the State with FCI.

(b) The demand was agamst (d) The offtake of nee from the FCI computensed handling of Telegraph Traffle. godowns In Orissa dunng 1984 to 1986 under Public Dlstnbution System was as (c) A minimum number of computers under:- have been Introduced to reduce delay In (000' tonnes) transit of telegrams. The matter was discussed with the unions. They have been Offtake informed that there will be no retrench- 1984 ment. A Committee has been constituted ~2.9 1985 to study the impact ot New Technology on 92.5 1986 59.S staff deployment and trainang ~ff • representatives have been mcluded an the committee. Shortage of Refdl LPG Cylinders in Punjab, Haryana, Jammu and Kashmir, F.e.l. Godowns without Rice in Orissa Himachal Pradesh and Chandigarh

2624. SHRI BAlWANT SINGH 2625. SHRI BAlWANT SINGH RM/,OOWAlIA: RAMOO\>VAUA: DR. CHINTA MOHAN' DR CHINTA MOHAN:

Will the MInister of FOOD AND CIVil Will the Minister of PETROlfUM AND SUPPLIES be pleased to state NATURAL GAS be pleased to state:

(a) whether the attention of (a) whether In the last week of October, Government has been drawn to the news 1987 there was a sudden shortage of refill Item captioned "Onssa F.C.I godowns LPG cylinders in Punjab, Haryana, Jammu Without rice" appeanng 10 "The H Industan and Kashmir, Himachal Pradesh and Times" of 23 August, 1987; Chandlgarh;

(b) If so, the details tn thIS regard; (b) if so, the detailed facts In this regard;

(e) whether even dUring the nonnal (c) the quantity of nce fit for eon- days the consumers an these areas get the sumption available in the FCI godowns as refill cylinders after 15 to 25 days; in October, 1987; and (d) If 50, the reasons therefor; and (d) the quantity of nee supplied by these Fel godowns for Public Distribution (e) the steps proposed to be taken to System during the last three years? Improve the LPG supply Situation? 207 Written MswetS NOVEMBER 24, 19&7 Written MswetS 208

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) whether Italy has shown any interest MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL in strengthening co-operation with India in CAS (SHRt BRAHMA DUn): (a) to (d). A the energy sector, and backlog in supply of LPG refills developed in recent months in several parts of the (b) if so, the details thereof? country including Punjab, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Chandigarh and Jammu THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and Kashmir on account of reduced bulk DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MIN- Product availability,. movement problems ISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA and other operational constraints; ROHTAGI)' (a) and (b). During recent diSCUSSIOns, the visiting Italian delegation (e). Efforts are being made to augment expressed interest in strengthening su,plies by arranging bulk LPG from Koy- cooperation between the two countries in ali/Bombay and through imports. the energy sector. It was agreed that the possibilities of identifying specific areas of (Eng/ish] cooperation shoutH be further explored. Perspective Plan for Chemical Industry Expansions Schemes of Indian 2626. SH RI BALASAH EB VI Ktt E Petrochemicals Corporation ltd. PATIl: SHRI BHADRESWAR rANTI: 2628. SHRI BAlASAHEB VIKHE PATIl: Will the Minister of IN DUST'i be pleased to state: DR. V. VENKATESH: SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI: (a) whether Government have decided Will the Minister of I NDUSTRY be to fo.-nulate perspective plan for the pleased to state: chemical industry identifying areas of growth, modernisation and technological (a) whether the expansion scheme of upgradation; the Indian Petrochemicals Corporation ltd. will be completed on schedule; (b) if so, whether the Plan has worked out medium and long tenn demands and (~if so, whether the company is means to achieve these; and planning further expansion; and

(c) if so, the broad features thereof? (c) if so, the salient features thereof? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY OF DEPARTME~ r OF CHEMICALS AND INDUSTRY (SHRI R.I<. JAICHANDRA PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY OF (~HRI SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. INDUSTRY R.K. JAICHANDRA SINGH): (a) to (c) The major expansion (b) and (c). The Report of the Apex by projects of Indian Petrochemic:als the Government to formulate a chemical Corporation Umited (IPCL) are generally as per schedule except Xylenes Expansion industry has not yet necessary details Project at its Baroda Complex. would be plan House soon after the report. IPel is also setting up a mega project viz. MGCC at Nagothane in Maharashtra at Indo-lt,iIian Cooperation in Energy Sector an estimated cost of Rs. '167 crores which 2627. SHRI BAlASAHEB VIKHt is also as per schedule. However, the PATIl: expansion of this project is also under DR. V. VENKATESH: consideration of I peL depending upon the Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased factors like availability of feedstock, to state: economic viability, etc. 209 Written Answets ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 210

loan for setting up of Transformer in (a) the desert areas in Rajasthan where larmer, jaisalmer and Jodhpur Districts Oil India Umited has started the work of exploration of oU and gas; 2629. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to (b) the details of the achievements state: made by the Oil I ndia limited in this regard so far; (a) whether villages of Banner, Jaisalmer and Jodhpur ~ in desert area of (c) whether the Oil India ltd. has Rajasthan are a scattered in an area of 30 started drilling work in any area so far; sq. kilometres to 200 sq. kilometres in groups of hamlets; (d) if so, the details thereof, if not, the reasons therefor, (b) whether the Rural Electrification Corporation extends loan to Rajasthan (e) the time by which drilling work will State Electricity Board for providing a be started by providing drilling eqUipment; transformer in each village; and

(c) whether one transformer can feed (f) the details of the programme to be the domestic requirements of such a big undertaken by the Oil India Ud. during village; and 1987-88?

(d) if not, whether Corporation will THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE consider to give loan for increasing the MINISTRY OF PflROlEUM AND NATURAL number of transformers in such big villages GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) Oil India in desert areas? limited (all) has started exploration work in Rajasthan mainly in the districts of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Jaisalmer and Bikaner. DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MIN- IST~ OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA (b) all has already completed approxi- ROHTAGI): (a) According to the Rajasthan mately 8400 lines kms. of seismic survey. State Electricity Board, some villages in the districts of Barmer, Jaisalmer and Jodhpur (c) to (e). The exploratory drilling work are spread over large areas and population in Rajasthan area is expected to start by density is low. first quarter of 1988. There has been some delay in starting the exploratory drilling, (b) to (d). The provision of distribution due to the time lag in awarding drilling transformer in a village is considered by the contract following the World Bank norms Rural Electrification Corporation on the and procedures, as the exploratory drilling basis of load demand in that village. In in this area would be partly financed by the exceptional cases, where load demand in a World Bank. particular village is low, the loads of that village are fed from the transformer of (f) During 1987-88, Oil has planned to adjoining village by extended l T lines. conduct 262 tines kms. of seismic survey, Similarly, depending upon the load and 1500 metres of drilling. demand more than one transformer is also considered in one village. Cas Based Thermal Plant at Ramprh, Rajasthal

2631. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: Exploration by Oil.lndi~ Ltd. in Rajasthan Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: 2630. SHRI VI RDH I CHAN DER JAI N: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND (a) whether a gas based thermal plant at NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Ramgarh in Rajasthan was sanctioned long 211 Written Answers NOVEMBER 2., 1987 Written AnswetS 212

ago but the construction work has not yet Thermal Power Projects in Karnataka started; 2632. SHRI S.B. SIDNAl: (b) whether Union Covernment SHRIMATI BASAVARAJESWARI: propose to give priority to set up this gas SHRI C.S. BASAVARAJU: based plant as early as possible; and WitH the Minister of ENERGY be pleased (c) if so, by what time? to state1

(a) whether Kamataka State had urged THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Union Govemment to set up thennal DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MIN- power projects 10 the State; ISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHllA ROHTAGI): (a) to (c). A gas-based power (b) If so, the details of the projects plant of 3 MW capacity at Ramgarh was cleared, sanctioned In August, 1984 but order for equipment was not placed owmg to non- (c) by what time these thermal power finaltsatton of pnce of natural gas bet\Neen projects are I.kely to be set up; and the Rajasthan State Electnclty Board and the ad and Natural Gas CommiSSion (d) the total expenditure Involved? Following the finalization of pnce of gas, global tenders tor purchase ot gas turbme THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE plant were floated; the State ElectnClty DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MIN- Board have mdlcated that the Unit could ISTRY Of ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA pOSSible be commissioned wlthm 15 ROHTAGI): ta) to (d). The desired months of fanahzatton ot order tor the maIO anformation ,s given In tile Statement plant below. 213 Written AnswelS AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Written Answers 214

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Committee on Availability of Essential Public Telephone Booths to Ex· Commodities Servicemen in Bangalore City

2633. SHRI S.B. SIDNAL: 2634. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will the SHRIMATI BASAVARAjESWARI: Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be. pleased to state: Wilt the Mimster of FOOD AN 0 CIVIL SUPPLI ES be pleased to state: (a) whether public telephone booths are given only to the physically (a) whether Union Government have handicapped in Bangalore city; and set up a Commi~ee to decide on steps to be taken to ensure availability of essential (b). whether Government propose to ,commodities and also to check price rise; extend thIS scheme to Ex-ServIcemen also?

(b) if so, whether State Governments THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE are represented on this Committee; MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) Attended (c) if so, to what extent setting up of Private Guaranteed Public Telephones in this Committee has helped in availability of Bangalore are provided only to physically commodities and check in rise of prices; handicapped persons. However, Private and Guaranteed CCB public telephones and Departmental CCB & attended type, are (d) the action proposed and taken by being provided at all places in the country. the Committee? (b) There IS no such proposal under conSideration at present. THE MINISTER OF PARLlAMtNTARY AfFAIRS AN·O MINISTER OF FOOD AND Supply of LPC in Jamshedpur CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K.L BHAGAT): (a) to (d). Government of India has constituted 2635. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will the Committees at various levels for reviewing Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL the prices and availability of essential CAS be pleased to state: commodities. These Committees take decisions/make recommendations from time to (a) whether the supply of LPG to time. The State Govemments/U.Ts. are not Jamshedpur has been irregular for the last represented on these Committees. three years; However, as is being done by the various MiOlstries/Departments of the Central (b) whether Government are aware Government, the State Governments are that even after two months of booking, also monitoring prices and availability of people are not gettmg refill cylinders; essential commodities on their own. The Central Government is in constant touch (c) whether LPG dealers of with State Governments. Various decisions Jamshedpur have started a cash and carry taken are implemented by both the Centrat system m which LPG consumer is given a and State .Governments. I n the past few card and he has to collect the refill cylinder months, the Committees have taken a from the godown situated in far off places; number of decisions including import of pulses by NAfED and STe, opening of more fair Price shops in drought-hit areas, (d) whether it is risky to allow con- import of larger quantity of deible oils and sumers to collect cylinders from the slowing down of export of onions. The godown; and deliberations of these Committees have helped in improving the availability and (e). if so, the steps being taken or containing the rise in prices of essential proposed to be taken to improve the LPG commodities. supply to Jamshedpur7 217 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA3, 1909 (SAAJ\) Written Answers 218

THE MINISTER Of STATE OF THE CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K.L BHAGAn:(a) MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL No, Sir. GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUm (a) and (b). No, ~ir. Barring temporary shortages or (~ Does not arise. problems with particular distibutorships, supplies have, by and large, been regular; (c) Sugar production during September, 1987 was 0.45 Iakh tonnes and (c) lPG 'distributors generally are unin October, 1987 upto 22.10.1987 was der instructions to make home delivery of 0.45 lakh tonnes. refills except in respect of customers who opt for the cash and carry scheme which entitle them to a rebate of Rs. 2.00 per (d) The sugar season for 1987-88 cylinder commenced on 1st October, 1987 and thus the comparison of 11 months of 1987- (d) No, Sir. It is not risky to carry 88 with 1986-87 would not be pOSSible. cylinders if customers follow the standard safety Guidelines (e) The Government have sufficient stocks of sugar to meet the domestic (e).. Steps have already been taken to requirement. Improve product availability and the refill delivery system; the bottling capacity [Translation] catering to this market is being augmented. With these measure, the LPG supply Upgradation of Telephone Exchange and position In Jamshedpur IS expected to Opening of More Public Cell Offices in return to normally in the coming weeks. Pithoragarh District of U.P.

Production of Sugar 2637. SHRI HARISH R!tWAT: Will the MIOlster of COMMUNICATIONS be 2636 SHRI S.M. GURADDI: pleased to state: SHRI S.B. SIDNAl: (a) whether the tele-communication Will the MIOIster of FOOD AND CIVil services an the rural pockets of the border SUPPUfS be pleased to state: dlStnct Pithoragarh in Uttar Pradesh are still at backward stage; and (a) whether the sugar production went down during August, 1987; (b) if so, the steps proposed to upgrade the existing exchanges and to open (b) if so, to what extent it has more P.C.O.S, 10 the rural areas of this decreased in comparison to the last year; distnct and the detail of the steps already taken? (c) the position in September and October, 1987; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI (d) the total output of sugar dunng 'SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) (a). No Sir. 11 months of 1987.88, and to what extent it was less in companson wath 1986-87' Telephone Excha.nges: At present 13 and telephone exchanges are working 41ft rural areas of Pithoragarh. Out of which 4 are (e) the steps being taken to meet the manual and rest are small capacities shortage of sugar in the country due to less automatic exchCUlges. sugar production in 1987·887 P.c.Os.: The number of lDPTS working in rural areas of Pithoragarh District is 29. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND (b) Telephone Exchanges: A manual 219 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written AnswefS 220

exchange at Pithoragarh has been replaced (b) if so, efforts made so far in this by 400 lines electronic exchange on regard; and 19.5.87. The other exchanges will be expanded subject to demand which IS nit t c, when the proposed electronic at present. telephone exchange will be s~t up at Nagpur and start functioning? P.COs:--Opening of a pca is done as per departmental hexagonal scheme THE MINISTER Of STATE IN THE according the area is marked into hexagons MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI of 5 kms side and each hexagon is to be SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) Yes, Sir. provided lDPT. At present out of 79 hexagons of Pithoragarh District the facility (b) and (c). A 10,000 hnes E-l0B Digital is available in 29. For providing lOP, ElectrOnic Exchange has been allotted for facility in remaining hexagons of the Nagpur out of 1987-88 supply programme District case is in progress and penod of of Mis ITI. f\.'ankapur. The equipment provision depends on availability of funds. supply has commenced and the exchanges IS likely to be commiSSioned dunng 1988- 89. Construction of Post Office Building at Bhikiasen in Almora District in U.P. Seventh Plan Allocation for N.H.P.C.

2638. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the ~O. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA: Will Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be the Minister of EN~RC), be pleased to pleased to state: state:

(a) whether the site for construction of (a) whether tht" Seventh Plan a building for post office at Bhikiasen In allocation for the National Hydroelectnc District Almora (Uttar Pradesh) has been Power Corporation is being raised; selected; and (b) if so, the details thereof; (b) if so, the total amount proposed to be spent on the buildmg during the current (( I whether the mcrease will ensure financial year and the total estimated cost enhanced generatmg capacity III hydel of \Gis building and ~he tlm~ by which the power sector; and construction work is likely to be completed? (dl whether NHPC h.lS dlso entered mto deSign consultancy agreements With THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN- foreign construction hrms for vanous dams ISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI like Dulhastl, Chamera, Tehn etc.? SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) Does not ta~se in view of (a) DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE above. MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHlLA ROHTAGt): (a) and (b). The dp· Setting Up of Electronic Telephone Ex· proved outlay In the Seventh Plan for the change at Nagpur National Hydroelectnc Power Corporation was Rs. 1500 (rores. ThiS amount has 2639. SHRI BANWARI tAL PUROHIT: recently been revised to Rs. 2843.30 Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS crores. be pleased to state: (c) Yes" Sir (a). whether the proposal for setting up of the electronic telephone exchange at (d) NHPC hdS entered Into an Nagpur has been pending with agreement with Mis. SNC/ACRES, Canada Government since long; for Design and Engineering, Procurement, 221 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Written Answers 222 Project Management, Construction Man- (d). The "comments and views agement Services and transfer of expressed during the Seminar will be duly technology, in respect of Chamera HE taken note to the extent relevant, while Project Stage-I (3 x 180 MW). planning the training programmes for various categories of staff in the Depart- Expansion of Telecom Facilities ment.

2641: SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA: Will Plait to Carry Second Oass Mail by Air the Mihister of COMMUNICATIONS be· pleased to state: 2642. SHRIMATI KISHORI S~NHA Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be (a) whether Government propose to pleased to state: - expand telecom facilities as suggested by ..... Sarin Committee; (a) whether there IS a plan to carry second class mail by air to expedite mail (b) whether the present staff delivery; strength will be adequate for the proposed expansion; (b) if so, from which date it Will be implemented; and (c) whether the telecom advisory (c) whether any other method of body of the institution of Electronic and expediting delivery of mail is also under Telecommumcation Engineers has made consideration? any suggestions In this regard; and THE MINISTER OF STATf IN THE (d) If so, details thereof and action MINISTRY OF COM1\iUNICATIONS (SHRI taken thereon 1 SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) (a) and (b). No, Sir. There is no plan to carry second class THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE mails by air as a general policy. Howeve(, MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRt to expedite mail delivery in remote areas SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) (a) No, Sir. like Andaman & Nicobar Islands, Tripura While the Government propose to expand State (to and from Calcutta) and ladakh telecommunication facilities signiticantly, areas (during selected periods in the year) due to limitations of the total investible re- the second class mails for these places are sources, it has not been possible to accept already given air lift without air surcharge. the suggestion ot providing telephone connections on demand by the dates recom- (c) Methods of expediting delivery mended by Sarin Committee. of mails are constantly under examir.ation. Speed P~st Service has beet introduced between 20 cities so tar. Under this (b) In keepmg With the expansion of Service, the article sent IS delivered at the serviCes, some moderate increase in staff destination withm 24 hours to ~2 hours on will be required. However, the productivity a guaranteed basiS taihng which the speed as measured by number of telephones per post fee is refunded. employees will Improve significantly. [Translation] (c) The Institute ot Electronics and TelecommuntCatlOfl Engineers has Improvement in Telephone and . constituted a Telecommunication Advisory Telegraph Services in Rural Areas Committee ot Its own. This Committee had organized a Seminar on Human Re- sources Development for Telecommunica- 2643. SHRI AKHTAR HASAN: \\'111 the tions during September, 1987. They have MIlllster of COMMUNICATIONS be fOlwarded a gist of the various views ex- pleased to state: pressed during the Seminar to the Depart- ment on 10th November, 1987. (a). the target fixed for providing 223 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answen 224 better telephone and telegraph sefVices in (d) if so, the location thereof; and rural areas of uttar Pradesh during 1987- 88; (e) if not, the reasons therefor?

(b) whether target fixed for 1986-87 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TtiE was acnieved; MINISTRY COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) (a) No (c) the facilities provided to Electronic Telex Exchange has been Muzaffamagar district in Uttar Pradesh commissioned during 1986-87.in U.P. The under the target; and 7th Plan proposals envisage setting up of 100 new Telex Exchanges of various types, (d) whether any new schemes have throughout the country. been fonnulated to extend further these services in rural areas of U.P.? (b) (i) Surajpur & (ii) Hardwar.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) No, Sir. MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) Seventy five (d) Not applicable. Long Distance Public Telephonts are tarBetted to be provided in rural areas of (e) There IS a 20 Imes stronger telex Uttar Pradesh during 1987-88. Out of Exchange at Muzaffamagar with 11 these, those opened in Post Offices will working connections and no waiting list. have telegraph facility on phonocom basis. There is no proposal to replace this by an Electronic Exchange. (b) Yes, Sir.

(c) F,ve long Distance Public Telephones were opened in Mauzaf- [English) famagar District during 1986-87. Scheme for Allowing Credit for Use of (d) Seventy-five long Distance Public Industrial Alcohol Based Chemicals Telephones are planned to be opened in rural areas of Uttar Pradesh during 1987- 88. 2645. SHRI JAGANNATH PATINAIK: Will the Minister of IN DUSl RY be pleased Opening of Electronic Telex Exchanges in to state: Uttar Pradesh (a) whether it is a fact that Government 2644. SHRI AKHTAR HASAN: Will the hav~ announc~ ~ special scheme for Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be allowing. credit for use of industrial alcohol- pleased to state: based chemicals; and

(a) the number of electronic telex ex- (b) if so, the details regarding the sailent changes set up in Uttar Pradesh during features of this scheme 1 1986-87 under the programme of setting up such 180 exchanges during the Seventh THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE five Year Plan period; DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY Of (b) the names of the places in Uttar INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. JAICHANDRA Pradesh where such exchanges are SINGH) (a) Yes, Sir. proposed t~ be set up during 1987-88; (b) The details are available in the (c) whether such an exchange is Notification placed on the Table of the proposed to be set up in district House. (Placed in library see No LT· Muzaffamagar of U. P. also; 5118/87J 225 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 3, 1989 (S~) . Written Answers 226

Proposal for Expansion of Hindustan (b) the expected production of Cables Limited Unit at Rupnarayanpur in Soyabean by 1990 and the total processing West Bengal capacity of Soyabean processing factories already set up? 2646. SHRI PURNA CHANDRA MALIK: SHRI MANIK ~NYAL: THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOO AND CIVil SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K.L BHA~: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be' (a) No, Sir. ple-ased to state: (b) The expected production of (a) whether there is any proposal for ex- soyabean by 1989-90"is 12.75 lakh tonnes. pansion of the Hindustan Cables limited's Present processing capacity of soyabean is Rupnarayanpur unit in West Bengal; 11.59 lakh lonnes.

(b) if so, the details thereof; and Gas Turbine Power Units

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether there is a scheme under DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL consideration of Government that Jndia DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF should go in for gas turbine based power INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM)~(a) plants to reduce the power shortage in the Yes, Sir. country as has been reported in the

I Hmdustan Times' of27-10-1987; (b) The proposal for expansion of capac- Ity by 18 lakh Conductor KIlometers (CKM) (b) If so, the details of the plan; for manufacture ot Jelly Filled Cables In Rupnara;npur Unit ot Hmdustan Cables (c) the States where these gas turbine ltd. was earlier conSidered by the Govt. power units will be installed; and but was deferred pending finahsatlon of targets for telecommurwcatlon sector for (d) the expected generation of power by 7th Plan. However, owmg to demand as these units and the extent to which they also resource constraHlts, no further will meet the countryls requirements 7 progrf"ss could be made so far. Meanwhile, the company has been adVised to revise THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the cost estimates of the project DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERCY (SHRIMATI (c) Does not anse SUSHILA ROHTAGI): ta) to (d). Proposals in respect of setting up gas turbine plants are examined keeping in view the Licences for Soyabean Processing Units availability ot gas/fuel, the power requirements of the Region and other 2647 DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR relevant techno-economic considerations. TRIPATH1. Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVil-6UPPU£S be pleased to state: Cas-based power plants of an aggregate capacity of 898.5 MW are presently in (a) whether Government had granted It- operation in the country. The following cenceS for setting up Soyabean processing gas-based power plants have been/are factories without keepmg In view the total proposed to be established during the estimat~d production by 1990; and Seventh Plan period:- 227 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers 228

51. Projects commissioned/likely to be commissioned Capacity No. during the Seventh Plan. (2) (3)

NTPC PROJECTS

(i) Anta Combined Cycle gas-based power project 3x l00MW (Rajasthan)

(ii) Auraiya Combined Cycle gas-based power project (U.P) 4x 100MW

(iii) Kawas Combined Cycle gas-based power project 4x l00MW (Gujarat)

AAjASTHAN (iv) Ramgarh Gas Turbine project 1 x3MW

TRlPURA (v) Baramura Gas Turbine 2 x 5 MW Already Commissioned.

(vi) Baramura Gas Turbine Project (NEe managed 1 x5MW Project)- Unit 3

(vii) Cas Turbine Project at Rokhia 2xSMW

ASSAM (viii) Lakwa Cas Turbine - Unit 4 (Phase· I) 1 x 15 MW Already Commissioned.

(ix) Lakwa Gas Turbir.e Phase· II Project - 4 x 15 MW Units 5 to 8

MAHARASHTRA (x) Uran Gas Turbine 4 x 108 MW Already Commissioned.

The installation of more gas-based (a) the monthly t:~pend;ture incurred on power plants depends on the availability of the Food Laboratory of Super Bazar, how gas on a sustained basis. Specific proposals much is collected from the parties' offering are techno-economically appraised after their goods. for ~Ie through Super' Bazar the availability of all inputs has been estab- and how much is borne by the Super Bazar lished and requisite clearance have been as testing charses; obtained. (b) whether Kendriya Bhandar has no Expenditure on Temng Laboratory by such laboratory and yet the pulses sold by Super Bazar its outlets are cheap and far supenor in quality; 2649. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: WiU the Minister of fOOD AND CIVil (c) whether the laboratory is meant for SUPPU ES be pleased to state: testing of food items only; and 229 AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SA~) Written Answers 230

(d) if not, the reasons thereof? injunctions issued by MRTP Commission and lay on the Table of the House a list of THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY· cases in which injunctions were issued by AfFAIRS AND MINISTER OF fOOD AND MRTP commission during the last twelve CIVil SUPPLIES (SHRI H. K l. BHAGAT): months: (a) The monthly average expenditure in- (a) the number of complaints received cluding the cost of material I chemicals in- by Monopolies and Restrictive Trade curred by the Super Bazar Quality Testing Practices Commission and Director Laboratory for testing during the year Ceneral of Investigation and Registration 1985-86 was about Rs. 16,620 as against for not honOUring the stay orders so the monthly average collection of Testing granted during the last twelve months and fee of about Rs. 32,00/· the details of action taken on the (b) Kendriya Bhandar does not have any complaints; and testing laboratory. However, the (b) the measures taken by MRTP endeavour of both the Super Bazar and the Commission and Director General of Kendnya Bhandar is to sell quality goods at Investigation and Registration to ensure reasonable rates. Prices some times vary proper implementation of stay orders 7 depending upon the quality and the rates of pulses prevailing in the market at the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL time of purchase. DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY Of (c) and (d). No, Sir. In addition to food INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlA'.1): items, the laboratory also tests other items Cases wherein MRTP CommISSion has suc~ a~ '-()Clps. detergents, deodorants, issued injunction orders during the penod phenyl, aggarbattls, match boxes etc. 1. 11. 86 to 31. 10. 87, are given In the Statement below

(a) and (b) one application of alleged Injunctions issued and complaints violation of injunction order has been filed received by MITP Commission before the MRTP Commission and the Commission has directed the respondent party to file its reply thereto. MRTP Act, 2650. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: 1969 empowers the Commission and DC Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased (I&R) to file prosecution in the Court of to refer to the reply given to Unstarred Session in case there is violation of injunc- Question No. 7350 on 21.4. 87 regarding tion orders.

STATEMENT

UST Of CASES IN WHla-I INJUNCTION ORDERS WERE PASSED BY THE M. R. T. P. COMMISSION DURING THE PERIOD 1. 11. 86. TO 31. 10. 87.

51. No Name of Respondent Date of order of injunction

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1. MIS. Polar Industries ltd, Calcutta 11.1'.a&-

2. M/S. Khaitan Chemicals & fertilizers limited, New Delhi 17.11.86

3. Smt. N. Santha Kumari, Kottayam 23.12.86

4. M/S.Shargav Clinic, Caya S.1.8i Written Answe#'S 231 • NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers 232

'1 1 2 3 s. MIs. Indian Rayon Corporation ltd. Bombay. 9.1.87

6. MIs. TOFte leasing limited, New Delhi 19.1.87

7. Mis. Modem Suitings limited, Jaipur. ,. 22.1.87 8. Mis. Universal luggage: Mfg. Co., Bombay. 29.1.87

9. Mis. Universal Luggage Mfg. Co., Bombay 29.1.87

10. Mis. Oriental finance and Exchange, Madras. 19.2.87 " 11. MIs. Bharat Overseas finance & Industrial Investment Corpn. Madras 27.2.87

12. MIs. Stallion Shox Umited, New Delhi. 27.2.87

13.. MIs. Neha leasing & Holidays ltd., New Deih, 2.3.87

14. MIs. Saurashtra Ball Pen Pvt. ltd., Bombay 20.3.87

15 MIs. Nalli Silk Traders, Madras. 25.3.87

16 Mis. Mangalore Banker & Financial Corporation, Bangalore. 31.3.87

17 Mis. A. N. land & Finance Co., Delhi 2.4.87

18 MIs. Travancore Finance Co., Bombay 3.4.87

19 Mis. Manjog builders, Bangalore 9.4.87

20 Mis. Bombay flour Merchants Association, Bombay and another. 20.4.87

21 Mis. M. S. Resorts Umited, New Delhi 23.4.87

22 Mis. Modem Woollens limited, Jalpur 27.4.87

23 MIs. L C. Textiles. Bombay 29.4.87

24 MIs. Labella financers, eoch;n 5.5.87

25 MIs. Dalmia Resorts International, N. Deltri. 8.5.87

26 Mis. South Delhi Holding Pvt. ltd., N. Delhi. 8.5.87

27 Mis. Kalaimagal Sabah, Komarapalayan 12.5.87 28 Mis. Universal luggage Mfg. Co., Bombay 19.5.87

29 Mis. P. Champak lal ~m)& Co, Gawhati 19.5.87

30 Mis. Indian Reyoll Corporation, Veraval 22.5.87

31 MIs. Jayasakthi Financers, Madras. 26.5.87 233 Written .Answers ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAIV\) Written Answers 234

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32 MIs. Khaitan Chemicals Fertilizers Ltd., New Delhi 27.5.87

33 Mis. Charkha Detergents & Soap Enterprises, Delhi. 1.6.87

34 Mis. Panama!extiles, Bombay 1.6.87

35 MIs. Nalli Silk Traders, Madras. 6.6.87

36 Mis. Professional Farms (P) ltd., Kurukshetra. 9.6.87

37 Mis Samarias Housing Finance Ltd., Madras. 30.6.87

38 MIs. Eagel Flask Pvt. ltd., Pune. 2.7.87

39 MIs. Jawahar Chikltsa Kendra, Gaya. 3.7.87

40 MIs. Vaidya Sri Jwala Prasad, Gaya. 3.7.87

41 MIs. Prakash Clinics (R, Amritsar.) 3.7.87

42 MIs. New life General Finance & Investment Company limited, Chandigarh 8.7.87

43 Mis. Ansal Resorts & Hotels Umited, N. Deihl 8.7.87

44 Mis. Dhanya Finance & Industnal Inv., Madras 10.7.87

45 MIs. Survodhya Finance & investment Company limited Madras 10.7.87

46 Mis. Surya Finance Madras 14.7.87

47 Mis. Oriental Finance & Exchange Company, Madras. 15.7.87.

48 MIs. Bombay Kirana Colour Chemical Merchants Association, Bombay. 17.7.87

49 MIs. Busy Land Development, Midnapur 20.7.87

50 MIs. Shalimar Fmancers, Cochlll 20.7.87

51 MIs. Nagarjuna Malika, Kuitlram 20.7.87

52 Mis. AudityaFinance& Investment Ltd., Bombay 22.7.87

53 MIs. Kamallochan Corpn, (Sharat). New Delhi 28.7.87

54 MIs. United Enterprises, Nagpur. 3.8.87

55 MIs. Jetling Electronics Ltd., Bombay 10.8.87

S6 Mis. Truck Union, Dausa 26.8.87

57 MIs. Goods Transport Operators Union, Alwar. 28.8.87 58 Mis. Shree Foods Umited Khopoli 1.9.87 235 Written Answets NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written .Answets 236

1 2 3

MIs. Punjab Fanns& Forest (P) Ltd.Chandigarh. 2.9.87

60 MIs. Milk Food Umited, Patiala. 18.9.87

61 MIs. Disco Electronics Ltd., N. Delhi 7.9.87

. 62 MIs. New India Financial Corpn. Madras . 9.9.87

63 Mis. Milk Food Limited. Patiala 24.9.87

64 MIs. Indian Shaving Products, Bhiwadi 29.9.87

65 MIs. Indian Shaving Products, Bhiwadi 29.9.87

66 MIs. India ~nagement Development

67 MIs. Singh, New Delhi. 7.10.87

68 MIs. Peico Electronics & Electricals Umited, Calcutta. 9.10.87

69 MIs. Magnum India Corporation, New Delhi 30.10.87

70 MIs. M. S. Enterprises, New Delhi. 30.10.87

71 MIs. Colades Beverages and another, Sahibabad 15.7.87

72 MIs. S. K. Agro Enterprises (P) Ltd., New Delhi. 12.3.87

73 MIs. Hindustan Proteins ltd., Ghaziabad. 19.6.87

74 Mis. Gold Valley Agro Development, Bombay. 20.5.87

. Use of Non

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL (b) In order to promote use of non- O£VELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF conventional raw materials for paper- INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) making, the following reliefs and 237 Written AnswetS AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Written Answen 238 concessions have been extended to the pa- (b) the details of proposals, if any, to per industry:- expand the telephone exchanges in Kerala during 1987-881 i) Paper containing not less than 75% by weight of pulp made from THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN- bagasse is exempted from excise ISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI duty. SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) The number of new telephone connections given during the first half of the year 1987-88 (upto 30th ii) Paper and paper board manufac- September, 87) in Kerala Telecom. Circle is tured with not less than 50% by 3213 and 6787 more connections are likely weight of pulp made from non- to be given in the second half of the year as conventional raw materials are per the target for 1987-88. charged excise duty at concessional rates. (b) There are proposals to instal / expand the telephone exchanges in Kerala during 1987-88. The details of some of the main exchanges are as follows:-

1. Ernakulam 2000 lines iii) The facility of payment at excise duty on incremental basis for suc- 2. Trivandrum 1000 lines cessive slabs has been extended 3. Tellecharry 3000 lines to the small paper mills, which 4. Calicut 900 lines mainly use non-conven~ional raw 5. Westland 300 lines materials for paper-making. 6. Mannar 400 lines 7. S. L Puram 400 hnes B. Cochin 400 lines

In addition, some small exchanges are iv) Import of waste paper has been also proposed to be installed/expanded placed under O.G.L. dUring the year 1987-88.

v) Requirement of Industrial ticence Setting up of Edible Oil Producing Units has been dispensed with in the in Kerala case of manufacture of writing, printing and wrapping paper from 2653. SHRI MULlAPPALLY RAMA- agricultural residues, wastes and CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of FOOD bagasse. AND CIVil SUPPLIES be pleased to state:

(a) whether there are any units sponsored/financed by Union Government Telephone Connections in Kerala producing edible oils in Kerala; if so, the details thereof; 2652. SHRI MULLAPPAllY RAMA- CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of COM- (b) whether any proposals have been MUNICATIONS be pleased to state: received for setting up umts for manufactunng/tmllng coconut od or other (a) the number of new telephone con- edible ods, 111 Kerala; if so, the details; and nections given during the first half of the year 1987-88 and how many more connec- (c) whether Government are tions will be given as per the targets tar considering setting up any such units in 1987-88 in Kerala telecom circle; and Keraia, if so, the details thereof? 239 Written Answet! NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers 240

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY Flaring of Cas at Bombay High AfF~IRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI H. K. L BHAGAT): 2655. SHRI PRAKASH V. p,ATll: Will the (a) and (b). No, Sir. Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (c) Does not arise. (a) whether it is technically possible to Diversion of Palmolein Oil meant for compress the gas that is now being flared public distribution in Delhi . in Bombay High and distribute it either for domestic use or for industrial purposes; 2654. SHRI MUUAPPAllY RAMACHANDRAN: (b) how much gas is being flared now at SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: Bombay High; and

Will the Minister of FOOD AN D CIVil (c) the steps being taken for Its util- SUPPLI ES be pleased to state: isation?

(a) whether GovemAlent have received THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE reports of illegal diversion of palmolein oil MtNISTRY OF PETROLEUM.. AN 0 by Delhi Wholesale Consumer Cooperative NATURAL GAS (SHRI B5a\BMA DUJT}. (a) Store Ltd. and fair price shops for sale. in While technically it would be possibJe to the black market; compress the associated gas that is r now being flared in Bombay High, it would not (b) if so, the details of reports received; be feasible to do so in view of the decline and in the projected production of associated g~ from Bombay High beyond 1992 .and (c) tbe action taken in this regard? because of the gestation time that is 'necessarily taken in the development of intius- THE MINISTER OF PARliAMENTARY trial and/or domesttc consumers as also in AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND the creation of associated mfra-structure. CIVIL SUPPUES (SHRI H.K.L BHAGAT): (a) and (bt)According to Delhi Administration (b) On an average, about 6.00 million they received a complaint in January, 1987 cubic metres of associated gas is being regarding embezzlement of funds relating flared daily from Bombay offshore and its to R&D Palm oil and Rapeseed oil in the satellite fields. Delhi Wholesale Consumer Cooperative Stores Ud., by making bogus entries in the (c) The following steps have been/are recorc.k. -They had also received general being taken for utilisation of the gas from complaints of diversion of edible oils Bombay High: including Palmolein oil by the Fair Price - Tieing up more consumers of gas like Shops. Hindustan PetroJewn Corpn. ltd., Bombay Gas Co., Hindus- (c) After preraminary investigations by tan Organic Chemicals, StOOM, the Delhi Wholesale Consumer MCCC, Gujarat Investment Ud. and Cooperative Stores limited, one store.. Corpn. Heavy Water keeper was placed under suspension and Project. departmental enquiry was initiated against Revamping of offshore gas him. compressors and creation of additional compression facilities for additional gas. As regards general complaints,. Delhi Administration has conducted 759 raids Construction of additional gas during 1.8.87 to 31.10.87 and ioltiated pipeline / gas grids for action against the offenders. transportation and supply. '241 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAAA) Written Answers 242

Setting of LPG recovery plant at Joint Oil Exploration By India And Sri H azira and C / C3 extraction Lanka 2 facalities at Uran. 2657. SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHOTHA.. Switching over from General Lights to MAN: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM Tube Lights AN D NATU RAL GAS be pleased to state: 2656, SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (a) whether there is any proposal for undertaking jomt oil exploration by India (a) whether sWitching over from general and Sri lanka; lights to tube hghts make a substantial saving In energy consumption; (b) if so, details thereof;

(b) whether any study has been made as (c) the areas identifies for exploration; to the extent of saving of power that can and be made; (d) when the work is likely to (c) if so, the details thereof; and commence?

(d) whether there is any scheme to enr THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN- courage better use of tube lights? ISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTI): (a) to (d). At pre- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE sent there is no proposal for undertaking DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MIN- joint oil exploration by I ndia and Sri Lanka. ISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRlMATI SUSHlLA ROHTACI): (a) Yes, Sir. Import of Credit Card Public Telephones (b) and (c). A study on the subject was carned out by the Tata Energy Research 2658. SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHO- Institute LInder the project entatled 'Two THAMAN: Will the Minister of COMMU- strategies for Electnc Load levelling for In- NICATIONS be pleased to state: dia' sponsored by the AdVISOry Board on Energy. Based on the survey conducted 111 la) whether there IS any proposal to Im- South Bombay, the Tata Energy Research port Credit Card Public Telephones; Institute have estimated that the re- ~acement of Incandescent lamps In the (b) If so, the details thereof; and country With fluorescent lamps would release, In the Systems, a peakll1g capacl!) (c) when these are expected to be in- of 8726 MW and that the savings In Energ) stalled for pUblic use? would be to the tune of 10.58 billion umts valued at Rs. 1206 cr..:>res annually, at the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE marginal cost of Rs. 1.14 per umt These MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI findings are only indlcat.ve In nature, and SONTOSH MOHAN OEV): (a) No, Sir. further exercises are to be done for val- idating these findings. lb) and (c). Do not arLSe.

(d) In order to encourage the use of India's Share in World Industrial fluorescent lamps, Government have Production reduced the Excise duty on fluorescent 2659. SHRI P. PENCHALLlAH: Will the lampS'from 20% ad-valorem to Rs. 2.00 per Minister of t NDUSTRY be pleased to state: lamp with effect from 1.3. t 987. Further, in the publicity campaign launched by the (a) whether India's silare in World Government on Energy Conservation, the Industrial Production is increasing or de- use of tube lights .5 being emphasised. creasing; and 243 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answ\!rs 244

(b) the details of the facts for the current (a) whether Government have decided year? that research institutions of a non-prof- itable character satisfying certain require- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ment would be eligible for assistance from DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL the Sugar Development Fund; and DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF IN- DUSTRY (SHRI M. AURNACHA~): (a) (b) if so, the details thereof and the and (b). According to the World De- names of institutions to whom the velopment Report 1987, India's position assistance from the Sugar Development amon& the countries in terms of value Fund is proposed to be provided? added in manufacturing was 12th during 1984 compared to 14th during 1970. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND Incentive Schemes for Reduction of CIVil SUPPLIES (SHRI H.Kl. BHAGAT): (a) Transmission and Distribution Losses in and (b) Yes, Sir. The institutions Power confonning to the following 2660. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJESWARI: desCription/Criteria will be eligible for grants-in-aid for research schemes, not Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to aiming at commercial exploitation, from state: Sugar Development Fund: (a) whether Government have decided to give to State Electricity Boards awards i) An Institution/Scientific Research under incentive scheme for reduction of Association/ Inhouse R&D Unit transmission and distribution losses; of the industry recognised by the Department of Scientific (b) if so, the details of the incentive scheme; and and Industrial Research under its registration scheme or ap- (c) to what extent the transmission and proved by it under section 35(1) distribution in the power has been (ii) or 35(i) (iii) of Income Tax reduced? Act 1961 and ICAR. THE MlNISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE ii) Laboratories set up by Sugar MINISTRY Of ENERGY (SHRIMATI Undertakings for the purpose of SUSHllA ROHTAGI): Ca) Yes, Sir. soil testing and biological con. trol laboratories for which (b) and (c) Under the scheme, awards schemes have been appraised would be given to the State Electricity and approved by the concerned Boards/Electricity Departments and their Agriculture Universities of the Distribution Divisions who achieve a pre- area. scribed reduction in the transmission and distribution losses. Individuals and I nstj.. tutions who develop any scientific device or make practical suggestions for reducing Supply of Vegetable Oil to Vanaspati transmission and distribution losses will Units also be "igible for awards. The scheme is to be implemented frotil the current finan- 2662 St-IRl BRAIAMOHAN MOHANTY: cial Year. SHMI C. MAOHAV REDOI: Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVil AIIIIta1ce to "arCh Institutions trom SUPPLIES be pleased to state: Sup DIveIopment Fund (a) the total quantity of imported ~VAAAJESWARI: 2661. S1iRIMATI vegetable oil supplied during 1986·87 and Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVil 1987-88 (upto date) to the vegetable oil in- SUPPUES be pleased to state: dustry for production of Vanaspati; 245 Written Answen AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SNci\) Written .Answets 246

(b) whether it has come to the notice of (d) whether Government are Covernment that the vanaspati industry considering any proposal for na- had increased the prices of hydrogenated tionalisation of vanaspati industry in order oil and refined oil in spite of getting to assure efficiency and stabilky M prices, it imported oil at a concessional price, if so, . so, the details thereof? the action taken in this regard; THE MINISTER Of PARLIAMENTARY AFfAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND (c) whether there has been any CIVil SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K.L BHACAn: (a) ~ment with the industry regarding the The total quantity of imported oils supplied price of vanaspati and if so, the details during 1986-87 and 1987-88 to the thereof, and vanaspati units has been as under.-

Oil-Y.ear (Nov-Oct.) Quantity allocated (In M.Ts.) 1986-87 5,08,825 1987-88 75,031

(b) and (c). A voluntary price arrangement been sanctioned and the required cables effective from 26th August, 1987 has been and equipments etc. are being procured made with vanaspati industry. As per this from abroad. This section is likely to be arrangement, the maximum consumer commissioned during 1989-90. The project price of 15 Kg. tin of vanaspati has been for the section Trichur to Palghat is under fixed at Rs. 335/- (excluding local taxes) sanction and the materials for this section throughout the country. Since then, no would be procured from indigeneous incident of increase in the prices of suppliers. This section is likely to be vanaspati by the vanaspati industry has commissioned during 1991-92. come to.the notice of the Govemment.

Imported oils are not supplied to the Import of Pulses by NCCF vegetable oil industry for manufacture of refined oils. 2664. SHRI H. B. PATIl: CH. RAM PARKASH: (d) No Sir. SHRI MURUOHAR MANE: laying of Optical Fibre Une between Trivandrum and Palghat Will the Minister of FOOD AN 0 CIVil SUPPLIES be pleased to ~te: 2663. SHRI V.S. VIJAYARAGHAVAN: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be (a) whether .Government have pleased to state: authorised the National Consumers Cooperative Federation of India Ud. to (a) whether there is a proposal to lay impOrt pulses to meet the shortage and optical fibre line for telephones from maintain the price level; and Trivandrum to Palghat; and

(b) if so, the details thereof? (b) if so, the detae1s in this regard?

THE MINISTER Of STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY MINISTRY Of COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI AffAIRS AND MINISTER OF fOOD ~b SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) Yes, Sir. CIVil SUPPUES (SHRI H. K. L BHAGAT): (8) and (b).' No, Sir. However, any com~ (b) The project for optical fibre scheme mercial organisation is free to import for the section Trivandrunl to Trichur has pulses under open Ceneral Licence. 247 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written AnswelS 248

Installation of Local Public CaD Office (b) whether Govermnent of Kamataka has requested to increase the allocation of 2665. PROF. NARAIN CHAND sugar to that State from Central pool; and PARASHAR: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (c) if so, rhe allocation enhanced during the current financial year? (a) whether any instructtons have been issued that no local public call offices may THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY be sanctioned/installed within the local .AFfAIRS AND MINISTER Of FOOD AND area of the exchanges in rural areas, after CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRl H. K. L. BHAGAT): launching the Hexagon Scheme for the (a) The monthly levy sugar quota was provision of long distance PCDs; revised upward to 3.32 lakh tonnes from february, 1987 based on 425 grams of per (b) if so, the justification for not capita availability for the projected sanctioning and installing local peDs ever population as on 1.10.1986. Accordingly in Departmental Sub Offices, Extra De- the monthly levy sugar quota of Kanlataka partmental Sub Offices and Extra Depart- was also increased from February, 1987 to mental Branch Offices when the installation 17,769 tonnes from 16,843 tonnes allotted of such peos would also provide telegraph during. October, 1983 to January, 1987. In services on phonecom basis to the publici addition to the abov~, for each ot the months of September and October, 1987, festival Jevy quota of 2,675 tonnes was also (c) if so, when sanction/installation of allotted to Karnataka. the local PCDs would be allowed in DSOs, EDSOs, and EDBDs; and (b) and (c). Monthly levy sugar quotas are allotted on uniform norms and not on (d) the number of local PCOs (i) sanc- the basis of demand/requests received tioned and (ii) installed after the laun~hing from State Governments/Union Territories. of Hexagon scheme, circle·wise along·with On a request from the Government of Kar- the names of such PC Os installed in nataka in September, 1987 to enhance the Himachal Pradesh districtwise? monthly quota of levy sugar, the above position has been clarified accordingly. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) No, Sir. Buffer Stock of Sugar

(b) Question does not arise in view of 2667. SHRI SRIKANTA DAnA reply to part (a) above. NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR: Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVil SUPPLIES be (c) Local Public Telephones are sanc- pleased to state: tioned/installed in DSOs, EDSOs and EDBOs subject to technical feasibility and (a) the stock position of sugar in the requirements. Central pool as on 30 September, 1987;

(d) The information is being collected (b) whether there is a need to increase and will be laid on the Table of the House. the buffer stock of sugar in the Central pool; Allocation of Sugar To Karnataka (c) if so, whether Government propose 2666. SHRI SRlKANTA DAnA to increase the present buffer stock; and NARASIMHARAJA WADfYAR: Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVil SUPPliES be (d) the steps taken therefor? pleased to state: (a) the total quantity of sugar allocated THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY to Karnataka in 1987-88; AfFAIRS'AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND 249 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Written Answers 250 CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI H. K. l. BHACAT): (b) whether there is a proposal to pro· (a) Under the present policy of partial duce power specially from coal and water, control, no central pool of sugar is main- if so, the steps taken by Government in tained by the Government. However, this regard; adequate quantities of indegenous and imported s'4gar were in stock as on 30th (c) whether there are sufficient natural September, 1987 to meet the internal re- resc·.rces in Orissa to generate electricity quirement. from coal as well as water;

(b) to (d). Govemment is not maintain- (d) whether any survey has been made ing any buffer skK:k of present. in this connection; and

(e) if so, the details thereof? Production of Power from Coal and Water in Orissa THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER LN THE 2668. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: Will the MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRJMATI Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: SUSHILA ROHTAC,,: (a) A capacity addition of 483.5 MW, based on the (a) the steps taken to implement the following hydro-electric projects, is different projects in Orissa to produce en- targetted to be completed in Onssa during ergy; the seventh plan period:-

Capacity (MW)

( i) .Ren&a1i 100.00 (Already Commissioned)

(ii) Upper Kolab 240.00

(iii) Hirakud Stage III 37.5

(iv) Potteru 6.0

(v) Rengali Extn. 100.0

483.5

The following projects/programmes of (iv) 3 wind battery chargers of 4 KW the Deptt. of Non-Conventional Energy capacity are under installation. Sources are also under execution:- (v) 6 urjagram project have been completed and another is under (i) the 550 KW wind fann project installation. act Puri is being expanded to 1.1 MW. (vi) Around 150 solar photovoltaic street lighting systemc; are being (ii) A pilot 90 'IYV wind turbine is installed. being set up at Kuipadar under a DANlDA assisted project. (b) In addition to the projects men- (iii) 237 wind pumps have been in- tioned above, the fo"owing hyde' and stalled in various parts of the thermal projects are envisaged to be ~en State and SO more are under in- up for execution in the state sector dunng stallation. the 8th and 9th plans:- 251 Written AnsweIs NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Anw.es 252

Name of the project Capacity(MW) AHYDRO PROJECTS

1.Upper Indravati 600

2.Upper Kolab Extn. 80 3 Balimela 120 B.THERMAl PROJECTS

1.Ib-TPS 840

2.Ib-Extn. 1000

Besides, the State of Orissa will also hydro potentlon of 1983 MW at 60% load have share in the Central Sector Projects factor out of which 567.5 MW at 60% load identified for benefits dunng the 7th, 8th factor has already been developed. The and 9th plan penods in the Eastern Region. total production of coal In Orissa during The details of these projects are given in 1986-87 was 7.07 million tonnes. It is the Statement below. expected to Increase to 12.85 Millton tonnes by 1989-90 and 39.64 Million (c) to (e). CEA have Identlf.ed a total tonnes by 1994-95.

STATEMENT

S. Name of the Project Installed Capacity benehts dunng No. Capacity 7th plan 8th plan 9th plan (MW) (1985·90)(1990-95)(1995-2000) (MW) HYDRO PROJECTS Sanct:Joned Projects: KoeI Karo 4x172.S+ 710 1 x20 aA Oeared Schemes

Ranjit II 3x20 60

New Schemes Envisaged:

1. Singhik 1000 750

2. Kishto Bazar (PSTOR) 1050 300

THEIlJ:IAL PROjEcr5

Sanctioned Projects

1. Farakka STPS St. I 3x210 630 1000 253 Written Answen AGRAHAYANA3, 1909 (SAIV\) Written Answet5 254

S. Name of the Project Installed Ca~~itv benetits durinS No. Capacity 7th plan 8th plan 9th pJan (MW) (1985-90)(1990-95)(1995-2000) (MW)

2. Farakka STPS St.1I 2X500 1000

3. Kahalgaon STPS 4x210 840 efA Geared Scheme

Talcher STPS 2x500 500 500

New Schemes Envisaged

1. Kahalgaon Extn. 2x500 1000

2. Farakka-6 lxSOO 500

3. Talcher STPS II 2)(500 1000

S.T.D. Service from Delhi to Barhampur (a) whether Government have approved in Ganjam District (Orissa) the project proposal for establishing a petro-chemical complex for the production 2669. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: Will the of Linear Alkyl Benzene at Visakhapatnam Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be in Andhra Pradesh: and pleased to state: {b) If so, the details thereof? (a) whether Government are contemptating STD connections from Delhi THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to District Headquarters in the country; DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY OF (b) whether STO connection trom Delhi INDUSTRY (SHRI R. K JAICHANDRA to Barhampur in Ganjam District in Orissa SINGH): (a) No, Sir. is going to be established; and (b) Does not anse. (c) If so, when? Unfair Trade Practices by Razor Blade THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Manufacturers MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a). Yes, Sir. 2671. SHRI C. MADHAV REDOI. Will the Mltllster ot INDUSTIrt be pleased to (b) Yes, Sir. state:

(c) By March 1'988. (a) whether It has come to the notice of the Governnlent that the razor blade linear Alkyl Benzene Plant at manufacturers In the country have been VlSakhapatnam, Andhra Pradesh resorting to nlonopolistic trade practices; and 2670. SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI: Will the MinISter of INDUSTRY be pleased to (b) if so, the action taken by the Cov- state: ernment in the matter? 255 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers 25&

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE· (a) whether it IS a fact that certain PARTMENT Of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- multinational companies have expressed MENT IN THE MINISTRY Of INDUSTRY their willin~ness for setting up their (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM): (a) and (b). It industries in the backward areas provided having appeared to Governmentr that mo- that some relaxation under M RTP Act and nopolistic trade practices exist in the razor FE RA are allowed to them; blade industry, government have made a reference to the MRTP Commission under (b) if so, the details of such companies Section 31(1) of the MRTP Act, 1969. who are willing to start their industries In India indicating the details of the relief Expleitation by Coal Companies sought by them; and

2672. SHRI ANll BASU (c) reaction of government to the Offers SHRI AjiT KUMAR SAHA: made by these multinational compames?

THE MINISTER OF STATE "N THE Will the Minister of ENE RGY be pleased DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL to state: DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF IN- u DUSTRY (SHRf ARUNACHALA.M): (a) (a) whether the Coal India Ltd. gets only "t With a view to encouraging Industnal Rs. 7 p~r 40 KG of domestic coal whereas development of centrally declared back- consumers actually have to pay more than ward areas and also to faCilitate II1crease III Rs.30 and in some cases Rs. 50 'for the IIldustnal production, Government had an- same quantity of coal; and nounced a number of schemes such as delicensll1g of certain IIldustnes and (b~ It so, the details of the steps taken by government to stop thiS exploitation by reduction In export obligation In respect of companies falling within the purview of coal companies all over the country? M RTP Act and FE RA for location In centrally declared lS the THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI backward areas. 1t for companies concerned to ava~ of these fa- ~ VASANT SATHE): (a) and (b). The ex- cilities. colh~ry pnce of soft coke which has been fixed by the government for domestIC (b) and (c). Do not artSe. consumption is Rs. 175/- per tonne which works out Rs. 7/- for 40 Kg. Distribution of Telephone Advisory Committees in Its price soft coke, and regulation of is Rajasthan withm the purview of the State Governments concerned. The retail pnce 2674. SHRI VISHNU MODI Will the paid by domesttc consumers of soft coke Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be has vanous elements over and above the pleased to state: ex-colliery price. transportation cost, han- d1tng, dlstnbutlon charges and other (a) whether there IS any proposal under statutory leVies as applicable. There IS no the conSideration of Government to form exploitation of consumers; by coal compa- Telephone AdvIsory'. Committees In the lllE'S areas not covered so far;

Setting up of Industries in Backward Area (b) If so, the details thereof; by Multinational Companies (c) how many of them Will be formpd 111 2673. SHRI VISHNU MODI: Rajasthan With details of the area ""-ely to SHR. SHANTI DHARIWAL: be covered by them; SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH' (d) the number of Telephont! AdviSOry Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be Committees tunctloning in Rajasthan at. pleased to state: present indicating complete details 257 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Written AnswetS 258 regatding their location, members, their MINISTRY Of COMMUNICATIONS (SHRl terms of reference, etc.; SONTOSH MOHAN DEY): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. Besides the Telecom. Advisory (e) whether any criteria have been laid Committees in a State/Union Territory / down to regulate the formation of Telephone District, a Telecom. Advisory Telephone Advisory Committees in the Committee for each Secondary Switching country; and Area is to be formed. (c) the following 15 Secondary (t) if so, the salient featrures thereot? Switching Areas Telecom. Advisory Committee are proposed to be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE reconstituted for Rajasthan:

AdviSOfll committee The areas covered

1. Ajmer Ajmer 2. Alwar Alwar 3. Banswara Banswara & Dungarpur 4. Banner Barmer & Jaisalmer 5. Bharatpur Bharatpur & Dhaulpur 6. Bhilwara Bhilwara & Chillorgarfl 7. Bikaner Bikaner 8. Jodhpur Jodhpur 9. Kota Kota & Jhalawar 10. Nagaur Nagaur & Churu 11. Pali Pali,Sirohi (Abu) & Jalore 12. Sawai Madhopur Sawai Madhopur, Tonk and Bundi 13. Sri Ganganagar Sriganganagar 14. Sikar Sikar and Jhunjhunu 15. Udaipur Udaipur

(d) One Telephone AdvISOry Lomm.ttee (b) Bnnglng the telephone us'"! public for Jaipur comprising of 28 Members and and the Department of one Telecom. Advisory Committee for Telecommunications into closer Rajasthan comprising of 32 Members have relationship; been reconstituted each for a period of two years, on 10.7.87 and 25.5.87 respectively. (c) Giving the public confidence that their grievances are being property Functions of these Committees are represented as well as attended to; given in the statement below. (d) Giving publicity to the action being (e) and (f). With the reorganisation of taken by the Department for improving Telecom. Circles on the basis of Secondary and developing the telephone service; Switching Areas which will be the operational/management unit, one Advisory (e) Assisting t~e Department in handling Committee will be formed for each the shortage in telephone equipment and Secondary Switching Area. lines by invoking cooperation and patience from public; and STATEMENt (f) Assisting the Department in deciding out-of-tum connections as provided in the Functions of the Telecom.jTe/ephone rules on a fair and eqUitable basis by joint Advisoty Committees assessment of the comparative merits of (a) Monitoring the perfonnance ot various applicants in the waiting list under telecommunication services and ad\flSing the 'OYl' and 'NONOYT' Special 'he Department for their improvement. categories. 259 Written AnswetS NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answets 260

Installed Capacity of Toilet Soaps assisted industrial projects existing in Maharashtra; 2675. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (b) the names and details of the on- gOing projectsupto September, 1987; and (a) the number of industrial units manufacturing toilet soap in the country; (c) the new proposals for centrally assisted industrial projects in 1987-881

(b) their installed capacity, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEA\RTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL (c) whether Government are aware 01 DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF IN- the fact that despite production of toilet DUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM): (a) soap cakes in the country, common man and (b). The following are among the still does not get a toilet soap of important industrial projects in the Central reasonable standard at reasonable price; Sector/Centrally Assisted Sector in Maha- and rashtra which have been included in the 7th plan:- (d) if so, whethe.r his Ministry proposes to take any positive steps in this direction? 1. SAl ~ C"ntral Marketing Organisation.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 2. Manapnese Ore India Ltd. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF 3. Balmer Lawrie & Co. ,BoQ1~Y INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) (a) and (b). 52 industrial units in the organised 4. Indo-Bunnah Petroleum Co. Engineer- sector with aA installed capacity of ing Division, Nasik. 3,65,400 tonnes are producing toilet soap in the country. 5. Bharat Petroleum Corpn. ltd. (Aromatics) . (c) and (d). A Variety of toilet soaps are produced by these units which are avail- 6. IPCL-Maharashtra Gas Complex, able in the market at different prices to suit Nagothane. the requirement of different segments of consumers. The soap industry is not 7. Rashtriya Chemicals & Fertilizers. subjected to price ~ distribution controls by Government. However, the Govt., are a. Cas based project at Thai aware that the prices of soaps have been showing an upward trend, mainly on ac- b. Trombay Project. count of a rise in the prices of industrial oils used in the manufacture of soap. The 8. H industan Organic Chemicals, Government have decided to import Resayani (Replacement & Renewals) 20,000 tonnes of additinal soapery oils to meet the shortage and necessary steps for 9. Hindustan Insecticides ltd. Resayani. importing the additional quantum have (DDT Project) been initiated. 10. Hindustan Antibiotics Centrally Assisted Industrial Projects ltd.--Continuing Schemes in Maharashtra Replacement & Renewals S&T.

2676. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: 11.Subsidy to backward area. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: 12.National Bicycle Corporation of India.

(a) the number and names of centrally 13.HMT ltd. Aurangabad. 261 ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SNCA) Written AnSwef$ 262

14 Richardson & Cruddas ltd Bombay. 35. National Textiles Corporation. l5.Automobile Research Association of 36.S & T (WRA, BITRA, SASMIRA). India, Pune. (c) New Centrally assisted industrial 16. Computer Maintenance Corpon. Ud. projects in 1987-88 included in the Annual Plan Proposal of the Government of 1 i National Centre for Software Maharashtra are as below: Development & Computing Techniques (NCSOn 1. I nfrastructural Development of No Industry District. la.Electronics Testing Development Centre (E[)TC). 2. Opportunity Profits 10 Nanded District. 19.Electronics Regional Testing laboratories (ERTL). Shortage of Edible Oil in States

20.Special Components & Materials Pro 2677. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: gramme. Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVil SU PPLI ES be pleased to state: 21. Computer Aided Design ProgrammeCCAO). (a) whether it is a fact that there was shortage and non-availability of palmolein 22.Society for Applied Microwave Elec- oil and also other popular brands Qf oil; tronics Engineering & Research (SAMEER). (b) whether it is a fact that in some States this oil was not at all available; and 23.Natlonal High Voltage Direct Current Project (HVDe). (c) the reasons for the shortage of this oil since a large quantity was imported? 24. Centre for Electronic Design and Technology (CEOT). THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER Of FOOD AND 25. Heavy Water Plant-Thal-Vaishet. CIVil SUPPLIES (SHRI H. IC. L. BHACAT): (a) to (c) Various types of imported edible 26. Thai Housing oils including palmolein oil are being allocated to state Union territories for 27. Heavy Water Plant Office. Public Distribution System. Supply of type of eil depends up on the demand of the 28.Uranium Corporation of India ltd. Of- State and in some States palmolein is not fice & Housing Complex, allocated. Allocation of all imported edible Nagpur oils including palmolein has progressively been increased for the last five months. 29. Bhabha AtomiC Research Centre. Exploration in East eo.t under Seventh 30. India Government Mint, Bombay. Five Year Plan

31. India Government Press, Nasik Road. 2678. SHRI R. P. DAS: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL CAS be 32.Currency Note Press, Nasik Road. pleased to state:

33. Export Inspection Council. (a) whether off-shore exploratory drilling along the eastern coast in the Bay 34.Santa Cruz Electronics Export Promo- of Bengal under Seventh Plan has been tion Zone. taken up: 263 Written Answen NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written AnswelS 264

(b) if so, how many wells have so far registered waiting list may still increase to been drilled; and about 15-20 lakhs by 1990.

(c) with what result? The Department has proposed a perspective plan of reaching the target of MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL providing telephones practically on GAS (SHRI BRAKMA DUTI): (a) Yes, Sir. demand by the year 2000 A. D. which will caU for ,ncreas,ng the number of d,rect ex- (b) and (c). Fifteen. Oil/gas has been changes lines from the present 35 lakhs to discovered in two wells in Krishna- about 2 crores and an investment of about Godavari Offshore Basin. Rs. 50,000 crores in the next 13 years. The perspective plan is being submitted to the Import of Telephone Equipment P.lanning Commission for their consideratinon. 2679. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS . It is the policy of the department of _ be pleased to state: Telecom. to achieve maximum self-reliance both in quantity and sophistication in (a) the policy of Government with regard to production of telecom- regard to meeting the country's demand of munications equipments. The department telephone hnes and other telephone has, however, been adopting a pragmatic equipment; approach in this regard keeping in view the need to ensure a balanced growth of the (b) whether Government propose to network. continue import of telephone hnes and also the equipment like switching system Commencang With setting up of the first etc; unit ITI In 1948, the department has continuously been expanding its capacity (c) whether Government propose to de- and setting up new units for adequate veiop indigenous capacity both in indigenous production capacities of various sophistication and quantity; types of equipment. It is proposed to continue this policy. Once a final decision (d) whether any long-term plan has is taken on the perspective plan, detailed been drawn up to develop indigenous long term plans will be cJ.rawn up for capacity; stepping up indigenous production capacity. (e) if so, the details thereof; and

(f) the amount earmarked therefor? Setting up of Bio-Cas Plants

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 2680. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) to (f). The state: Department of Telecom. has been keen to reach the target of providing telephone (a) whether government are aware of connections practically on demand as early the growing rural energy problems; as possible. It has, however, not been possible to allocate the necessary resources to (b) if so, the measures adopted to solve achieve this target. these problems; and

During the 7th Five Year Plan, it is (c) whether the setting up of more bio- hOped to provide about 15 lakh new gas plants has been encouraged? telephone. connections which will also call for significant stepping up the plan THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI allocation for the department. Even so, the VASANT SATHE): (a) Yes, Sir. 265 Written AnswelS AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Written AnswelS 266

(b) The measures being adopted to help allocation made available for this in solving rural energy problems include area. inter-alia., the follOWing: (c) Yes, Sir. (i) widespread utilization of technology based on non-con- [Translation] ventional energy sources which have reached a stage of ma- Sick Industries in Bih ar turity. 2681. PROF. CHANDRA BHANU DEVI: (ii) promotion of Promising non- Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased conventional energy technolo- to state: gies through demonstra'ion, field testing, public awareness (a) whether the number of sick indus- etc. tries has increased in Bihar during the last few years; and (iii) inten5ification of research and (b) if so, the reasons therefor? development activity in area of long term prospects. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL (iv) so far over 8.5 Jakh biogas DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF iN- plants and more than 30 lakh DUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM): (a) chulhas have been installed in 'oata on sick industrial units assisted by the country which have started banks in the country are collected by the giving substantial benefit to rural Reserve Bank of India as per the definition population. proposed to It is of sickness adopted by It. According to the expand these activities. How- data available from PBI the number of sick ever, the pace of this expansion umts In the state of Bihar since December will depend upon the fmancial 1984 to June 1986 are as.unc.

Period endmg No. of large sick No. of Sick Umts

December, 1984 14 5652 December, 1985 17 8570 Jl'ne,1986 16 9304

(b) A number of causes, both internal West Bengal is mainly due to decreased and external, such as mismanagement, supply of rapeseed oil to West Bengal; and diversion of funds, faulty planning at the imtial stage, technological obsolescence, market recession, shortage of power and (b) if so, the action being taken by Gov- raw materials, industrial relations etc. are ernment to tide over the present difficulty? responsible for industrial sickness. [English] THE MINISTER OF PARUAMENTAt('{ Allocation of Rapeseed Oil to West AFFAIRS AND MINISTER Of FOOD AND Bengal CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) No, Sir. 2682. DR. SUDHIR ROY: Will the Minis- ter of fOOD AND CIVil SUPPLIES be pleased to state: (b) The allocation of imported rapeseed oil to West Bengal has progressively been (a) whether shortage of edible oil in 1 increased from June, 1987. 2.61 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written AnswetS 268

[Translation] Progress in linking of eastern and south. ern regioi1~ power grids Opening of LPG Agency at Ganj Basoda in Vtdisha, Madhya Pradesh 2685. SHRI P.M. SAYEED: Will the Min- ister of ENERGY be pleased to state: 2683. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL (a) whether the work to provide a link GAS be pledSed to refer to the reply given between the Eastern and Southern Re- to Unstarred Question No. 7325 on gional power grids is in progress; 21.4.87 regarding aHotment of LPG agency for Canj Basoda in Vidisha, Madhya (b) the time by which it is Hkely to bp Pradesh and state the time by which an completed; and LPG agency will be opened at Ganj Basoda in Vidisha district of Madhya Pradesh 1 (c) whether energy from other sources will also be pooled and if so, the details THE MINISTER OF STATE OF 1HE MIN- thereof including the total benefit to be ac· ISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL cAs crued? (SH RI BRAHMA Durn: The letter of tntent (LOI) awarding the L~C distributorship at THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- Ganj Basoda in Vidisha, Madhya Pradesh PARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY has been issued by IOC to the selected OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTA- candidate on November 17, 1987. As vari- GI): (a) and (b). A transmission link bet- ous steps proceed the actual commission- ween Andhra Pradesh in the Southern ing of an LPG distributorship, it is not pos- Region and orissa in the Eastern Region sible to indicate a specific date by which already exists and power exchanges of this distributorship would be cornmis-'~ about 100 MW have been taking place. sioned. • (c) The existing inter-regional links are being strengthened so that larger ex- [English] changes of power from other sources can take place. In regard to the Eastern and Setting up of Rubber.based Industries in Southern Regions, it would be possible to l(erala exchange about 250 MW power when the CentraHy Sponsored lower Sileru - Upper Sileru - aalimela link ;s completed by 2684. SHR~ K KUNJAMBU: Wi" the March, 1990 Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Delay in Execution of New Coal Projects

(a) whether Government of Kerala has 2686. SHRI P.M. SAYEEO: WiU the Min- ~ sent any proposal to set-up rubber-based ister of ENERGY be pleased to state: industries in the State; (a) whether his attention was recently y (b) if so, the details thereof; and drawn to some problems faced by the col- ? liery workers including delay in execution 1 (c) Government's reaction thereto? of the new coal projects;

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE· (b) if so, the details of the problems en- PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP· countered by the workers; and MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM):(~) No, Sir. (c) the steps taken to solve these problems and to streamline' the procedure to cut out delays in the execution of the new (b) and (c) Do not arise. coal projects? 269 Written Answer.s AGRAHAYANA3/1909(~) Written J\nSwelS 270 THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VAS- r (TI R) located at Kamal, Haryana and the ANT SATHE): (a) to (c). Representations are amoUnt spent on it so far, and received from time to time directly from the. workers or their Unions or from individuals (b) the expected date of its commis- and important persons about the problems sioning and the targeted capacity of various faced .by colliery workers. The problems are products in this refinery? of diverse nature concerning service matters conditions at the place of work, living THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN- conditions and amenities in miners' ISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS colonies and dhowrahs. The coal compa- (SHRI BRAHMA Oun):(a) and (b). The nies have well-established grievance re- Memorandum of Understanding for the dressal procedures and welfare set-ups to Kamal Refinery Project was signed on look into these problems and attend to 22.S.19B7. A Project Tearn comprising of them. officers from IOC and Tata Chemicals ltd. Representations are also received from has been formed. Preliminary site work has time to time pointing out delays in the exe- . been started and preparation of a Detailed cution of projects which mainly take place Project Report is on hand. Work on incor- on account of non-availability of land and poration of the Joint Venture Company has equipment on time and delay in getting been taken up. The Draft Memorandum forest/ environmental clearances etc. Mea- and Articles of Association are also ready. sures have been taken to streamline procedures and strengthen administrative ar-" The total amount spent on the Kamal rangements for timely execution of coal, Refinery Project since inception is Rs. 9.15 projects. Steps taken include: crores.

(i) Preparation of realistic project The expected date of commissioning of implementation plans; the refinery is May, 1992. The targeted capacity of the various products IS as given (ii) Approval of Advance Action below:- pending approval of the project reports; In '000 tonnes (iii) Enstirins ~te fundililg; LPG 1'0 (iv) Effective monitoring through Naptha 398 Monthly Flash Report; Motor Spirit 100 ATF 1135 (v) Constant pressure on project SK 564 authorities for expeditious HSD 2116 completion; lOO 83 Heavy Petroleum Stock 925 (vi) I nter-Minsterial coordination Sulphur 22 and inter-action;

(vii) Close follow-up with concerned Ministries, State GOY- ernments, equipment suppli- Pepsi Cola ers, consultants and other concemed agencies to min- 2688. DR. DAnA SAMANT: Will the im~ delays. Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Progress of learnal Refinery (a) what final decision Government have 2687. DR. DATTA SAMANT: Will the taken in regard to clearance to the Pepsi Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL Cola Project in the country; and GAS be pleased to state: (b) whether the United States have (a) the progress so far made in the made any representation to Government of completion of Tata Indian Oil Refineries India in this matter? 271 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers 272

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- without calling tenders in violation of es- PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAl DEVELOP- tablished practices; MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUST~ (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM): (a). No deci- (d) if so, the details; and sion has been taken on the application of MIs. Punjab Agro-Industries Corporation (e) the steps beif)g taken to follow the for approval for a Joint-Venture with one of rules and normal procedure 1 the Tata Companies and MIs. Pepsi Co. lne., of U.S.A., for manufacture of various processed foods and soft drink concen- trates. THE MINISTER Of PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K.L BHAGAn: (a) (b) No representation has been received and (b). No, Sir. The production of Modem from the Government of the United States of America in this matter. bread during April-September 1987 was higher by 22 lakh standard loaves, as com- Settins up of Vanaspati Units in Orissa pared to the same period last year.

2689. SHRt HARIHAR SOREN: Will the (c) No, Sir. Minister of FOOD AND CIVil SUPPLIES be pleased to state: (d) Does not arise. (e) The Company has laid down stan- (a) the number of applications received dard purchase procedure for all materials from Government of Orissa; for setting up and the same is followed strictly by all the Vanaspati plants in Orissa; and units of the Company. (b) the number of applications which have been accorded sanction by Govern- ment? Power Generated by Public and Private Sectors THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND 2691. SHRI PARAG CHAUHA: will the CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K.L BHACAn: (a) Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: and (b). Since 1973, six applications have been received from the Government of (a) the total quantity of power gener- Orissa for setting up of Vanaspati plants. ated by the public sector and private sector Of these, one application has been sanc- in terms of percentage to the total power tioned by the Government. generation in the country during the !a!:t three years;

Low Production of Modem .ead (b) whether the operational losses of public sector power plants are on the in- 2690. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRl\SAO crease; SINGH: Will the Minister of fOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: (c) if so, the details, plant-wise including the main reasons for growing losses; and (a) whether the production of Modem Bread has come down by 30,000 loaves a Cd) the action, if any, contemplated to day; minimise the losses?

(b) if so,_ the details and reasons thereof, THE MINISTER Of STATE IN THE DE- PARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY (c) whether it is ,a fad that the Modem OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA RO· Food Industries (India) Ltd. has been pur- HTAGI): (a) The requisite information is as chasing maida only from one flour mill under:- . 273 Written M.wetS ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (.XJG-\) Written AnswetS 274

Year State Electricity Central Sector Private Sector Boards % of total "of total % of total

1985·86 68.0 26.2 5.8

1986-87 68.6 25.9' 5.5

1987-88 (April-Oct.) 67.S 27.0 5.5

(b) to (d). The information is being col- if not, the impact on the overall power lected and shall be laid on the Table of the ... scene; House. (c) the per mega-watt cost of power Demand and Cieneration of Electricity in generation in the newly undertaken pro- Assam jects; and

2692. SH RI PARAG CHAU HA: Will the (d) the total generation of power in the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: projects presently under implementation, their location and capacity of power gener- (a) the perspective of demand and gen- ation of each such project? eration of electricity for the next five years with reference to the country as a whole in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- general and Assam in particular; PARTMENT OF POWER IN TH6. MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SMT. SUSHllA ROHTAGI): (a) (b) the amount of new investments Based on the Twelfth Power Survey Report, taken into account and whether the cost the estimated electricity requirements and apd time frame of l1ew power projKts generation for the Country as a whole and come within the originally envisaged limits Assam for the next five years are as under.

Year Electricity (Requirements) (SUs) Availability (BLf~) All India Assam All India Assam

1988·89 247.16 2.28 231.10· 2.57· 1989-90 269.38 2.54 254.97· 3.14· 1990·91 295.50 2.79 The g~neratlon for thiS 1991·92 324.21 3.07 penod has not yet been 1992·93 355.77 3.38 assessed.

• estimated at the beginning of Vllth Pian.

(b) The Seventh Plan approved power Besides the above, a Gas Turbine pro· sector outlay for Assam is Rs. 485.0 crores ject at Kathalguri (280 MW) with an esti- which includes Rs. 57.03 crores for new mated cost of 16. 203.17 crores (for gener- generation schemes. The following new ation portion) was approved under the scheme was approved under the State Plan Central Pian. in the Seventh Plan: (c) The estimated per megawatt cost for 1. Dalaima Hydel (2x2 MW)~. 4.40 new projects in Assam (for generation por· crores estimated cost. tion only) is as under:

J ______P_ro~ie_c_t ______~C~os~/_M_W~.~(~~._cr_o_res~) _____

(i) Dalairna Hydel (State Sector) 1.1 (ii) Kathalguri Gas Turbines' (Central Sector) 0.725 275 Written Answers ~OVEMBER 24~ 1987 Written AnswelS 276

(d) The details are given in the ~t..1.ement below

STATEMENT

Projects under implementation in Assam

State Sector

Hyde/ ~ilme Ca~aci~MW 2.50 1. Karbi langpi

2. Dhansiri 1Sx1.33

3. Dalaima 4

B. Thermal 1. Chandrapur Extn. 30 4x15 2. lakwa Gas Turbine Phase II

3. Bargolai 2x30

II. Central Sector 280 1. Kathalguri Gas Turbines

Industrial Ucences issued to North MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY Eastem Region (SHRI M. ARUNACHAl.N+A): (a). Yes, Sir.

2693. SHRI PARAG CHALlHA: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (b) and (c). Industrialisation of an area is (a) whether the North Eastern regiona,' primarily the responsibility of the State an industrially backward area; Government concerned. However, Central Gov~rr:-me~t supplements their efforts by prOViding incentives/concessions for set- (b) if so, what concrete steps have been ting up industries in the backward areas. take~ in r~cent. years to esta_h new industrial unitS With Central assiStance in the The entire North Eastern Region has been region; and ident~ed as Category I A' which is eligible for highest rate of Central subsidy at the rate of 25% subject to a maximum of Rs. 25 (c) the total number of industrial li- lakhs (Rs. SO lakhs for setting up electronic cences given during the last three years in industries in hill districts of North Eastern each of the North Eastern States and how many units have actually materialised Reg~on). During the last four years, the fol- . and/or started functioning? lOWing number of Letters of Intent (LO I) Industrial Ucences (I L) and DGTD Registra: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- tions have been issued to various States of PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- North Eastern Region:- 277 Written AnswetS AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAI

Name of 1984 1985 1986 1987 th~ State (Upto Sept. '87) LOI Il OGTO lOI Il OCTO lOt IlDCTO LOI IlOGTO Regn. legn. Regn. Regn. (1) (2) (3) ~1~ l~J {~j (1) r2) (3) (1) (2) (3) Assam 14 8 12 12 12 15 20 5 7 6 3 10

Arunachal 2 3 1 6 1 1 1 1 Pradesh

Manipur 1 1

Meghalaya 2 1 1

Mizoram

~agaland 1 2 3 4

Tripura 1 1 1

19 14 15 16 18 15 27 8 8 7 4 10 It generally takes 3 to 4 years for an industrial proiect to fructify.

Electronic Telephone Exchanges in Assam THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN- ISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI 2694. PROF. PARAG CHAlIHA: Will the SONTOSH MOHAN DEV):(a) Four towns Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be in Assam have been prOVided with elec- pleased to state: tronic exchanges. Two towns have been planned for installation of electronic ex- (a) the number of towns in Assam which changes in 1987-88. Three towns ha~e have already been provided with electronic been planned for provision of electrOniC telephone exchanges and how many more exchanges in 1988-89 and one for expan- such exchanges are being planned for in- sion in 1988-89. stallation in 1987-88 and 1988-89; (b) Halflong already installed in 1987. (b) the towns already having electronic Silchar is planned for installation in exchanges in Cachar district of Assam and 1987 -88, Hailakandy is planned for 1988- the towns where electronic exchanges are planned for installation in 1987 -88 and 89 1988-89; (c) Proposal for installation o! elec~ronic exchange at Nizira is under consideration. (c) whether an electronic telephone exchange is being installed at Nizira, a small (d) Nonnally priority for allotment of town in Sibsagar district, disregarding the electronic exchanges eqUipment is given long standing demand for such an ex- for replacement of manual excha~es or cHange at the district headquarters; small capacity MAX III automatic ex- (d) if so, the reasons therefor; and changes. (e) No definite time can be anticipated (e) whether a definite time can be given at this stage as no indigenous electronic by which an electronic telephone exchange exchange is available to meet the demand will be installed at Sibsagar town 1 of Sibsagar. 279 Written AnswetS NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written AnswelS 280

Appointment of Directors in Coal India PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- Ltd. MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM): (a) As per 2695. SHRI TARIQ ANWAR: Will the available infonnation as on 31.10.1987, 12 Minister of EN ERGY be pleased to state: p_ublic sector enterprises, a list of which is given in the statement below, which had (a) whether Government have any plan incurred losses during the year 1985-86 for to appoint Directors on the Board of Coal which audited accounts are available, have India Ud. and its subsidiaries from its the post of Chairman and/or Managing Di- workers; and rector vacant for more than three months during the year. (b) if so, the procedure of such appointments? (b) Officiating arrangements are made so that the work does not suffer. Selection THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VAS- process has already started for filling up the ANT SATHE): (a) Yes, Sir. vacancies.

(b) It has been decided to nominate 4 Directors on the Boards of Coal India ltd. and each of its subsidiary coal companies STATEMENT to represent 4 categories of employees, namely,sem i-skill ed / unskilled workers, sidled workers, supervisory personnel and Names of loss-making Public Sector Enter- executives. The nominees for the Boards of prises which have post of Chair- subsidiary companies will be elected by the man/Managing Director vacant for more respective categories of employees who than three months during the year are in the regular service of the companies through secret ballot to be conducted by the Chief Labour Commissioner (Central). 1. Bharat Brakes & Valves ltd. One worker-Director from each of the four categories of worker-Directors of all the 2. Sharat leather Corporation Ud. subsidiaries will be elected for nomination (Since joined on 18-11-87) on the Board of the CI L There being four categories of worker-Directors, there will 3. Bharat Process & Mechanical En- be, thus, four worker-Directors on Cll gine~rs Ud. Board. The tenn of worker-Director will nonnally be of two years. 4. Bharat Pumps & Compressors ltd. Public Sector Uoits without Chair- man/Manasins Director 5. Cotton Corporation of India Ud.

2696. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Will 6. Engineering Projects (India) Ltd. the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: 7. Hindustan Paper Corporation Ud.

(a) the names of loss making public sec- 8. Nagaland Pulp & Paper Company tor units which have a post of Chairman ltd. and/or Managing Director vacant for more than three months durin_g the year; and 9. NTC (Maharashtra North) Ltd.

(b) the steps taken to ensure that the 10. NTC (South Maharashtra) Ud. vacancies are filled up in future without any time-gap? 11. NTC (Uttar Pradesh) Ud.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- 12. Scooters India ltd. 281 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SN

Opening of Petrol Pumps and SKO Deal. (a) the present pOSition of the medium erships in U.P. and Hamirpur and large scale power projects in various States under sanction, construction and 2697.SHRI SWAMI PRASAD SINGH: completion stages; Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU RAl GAS be pleased to state: (b) their target dates of commissioning as ~timated now and as estimated origi- (a) whether certain proposals to open nally; and new SKO dealerships and petrol pumps in Uttar Pradesh during current year and 1988 (c) the estimated cost overrun in each are under consideration; easel

(b) if so, the details thereof, year-wise; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- PARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY (c) whether some proposals to set up Of ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA RD· HTAGI): (a) to (c). The information is being new SKO dealerships and petrol pumps in collected and shall be laid on the Table of Hamirpur are also under consideration during the same period; the House.

(d) if so, the details thereof, year-wise and progress made so far in this regard; Industries set up in Backward and Tribal and Areas in Andhra Pradesh

(e) if not, the reasons therefor? 2699. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will the Min- ister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN- ISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL CAS (a) the details of industries that have (SHRI BRAHMA DUn): (a) Oil Companies come up with Central assistance in back- have proposals to develop about 50 new ward and tribal areas in Andhra Pradesh SKD flDO dealerships and about 340 Retail according to new policy of Government; Outlets in Uttar Pradesh upto the Market- ing Plan 1987-88. (b) the details of incentives and assistance given to such industries by Union (b) The effort involved in compiling the Government; information will not be commensurate with the purpose sought to be served. (c) the names of tribal and backward areas in Mahboob Nagar district of Andhra (c) Yes, Sir. Pradesh that were selected and covered' under the new policy; and ' (d) Oil Companies have proposals to develop two Retail Outlets-one each at (d) the amount given to the industries Charkhari (lOI issued on 10.9.87) and as assistance during 1986-87, 1987·88 and Muskara (pending with OSB (North)), and earmarked for 1988-89 and 1989-901 one SKO/LDO agency at Charkhari (Panel from District Collector awaited by the OSS (N). THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE· (e) Does not arise in view of (d) above. PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP· MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM): (a) During the Medium and Large Scale Power Projects last 3 years the following numbers of let- in States ters of Intent, Industrial Ucences and D.C. T. D. Registrations have been issued for a698. DR. AK. PATEL: Will the Minister setting up of industries in centrally declared of EN ERCY be pleased to state: backward districts of Andhra Pradesh:- 283 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answets 284

Year lOIS ILS OCTO Regn.

1984 056 023 135

1985 088 037 133

1986 072 022 048

1987{upto Sept.) 042 016 065

(b) Central Investment Subsidy of 15% (c) the number of applications that are (subject to a maximum of Rs. 15 Iakhs) is pending together with the reasons there- given for setting up' of industries in cen- for; and trally declared Category 'B' backward districts and CentTal Investment Subsidy of (d) the number of applications rejected? 1,", (subject to a maximum of Rs. 10 lakhs) is given in Category 'C' backward districts, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- excluding MKTP /FERA cos. PARlMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (c) Mahboob Nagar, Jadhchetia, Shad- (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) In the last 3 nagar, KalwakuJthy and Amangal blocks of years five applications were received for Mahboob Nagar district are identified as setting up of automobile units such as Category,8' industrially backward areas and three wheeler diesel autorickshaws, special the rest of the blocks have been identified purpose heay vehicles and passenger cars as Category 'e' industrially backward areas. in Andhra Pradesh. One of the applications for passenger cars is for an altemate loca- (d) During the Financial Year 1986-87 an tion in Tamil Nadu. No specific recommen- amount of Rs. 14.05 crores has been given dations of the Govt. of Andhra Pradesh to the industrial units in Andhra Pradesh were received on any of the applicatiOns. and in the Financial Year 1987-88 (upto Oct., 1987) an amount of Rs. 3.54 crores has been given as Central Investment Sub- (b) None of the 5 applicants mentioned sidy. The Subsidy is given on first come first above have yet been issued Industrial li- serve basis and as such there is no ear- cence. martang for any particular State. (c) The representations from three ap- Settins up of Automobile Industry in plicants against prima facie rejection have Anethr. Pradesh been received and are pending. These rep· resentations will be considered in the light 2700. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will the Min- of the Automobile Policy being fonnulated ister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: by the Government.

(a) the number of applications received (d) Two applications have been finally by Union Covemment as recommended by rejected by the Govt. the State Government of Andhra Pradesh Committee to Consider upward Revision for setting up automobile industry in the of Convenion Charts for Drugs and State; Pharmaceutical Industry

(b) the number of applications consid .. 2701. SHRI G.S. 8ASA\,ARAJU. Will the . ered and licences issued to them; Minister of IN DUSTRV be pleased to state: 28S. Written Answen ACRAAAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Written AnswetS 286

(a) whether Union Government have (d) if so,/what extent th~ have been appointed a Committee to consider upward revision of conversion charts for the implemented? df1Jgs and phannaceuticals industry, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- PARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETRO- CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY OF IN- (b) if so, the lIames of members of the DUSTRY (SHRI R.K. JAICHANDRA SINGH): Committee and the main object of this (a)· Yes, Sir. Committee; (b) The Committee has been set up for revision of conversion and packaging (c) whether any recommendations have nonns. The constitution of the Committee been made by the Committee; and is given below: ------~~--~_.~------'1. Director (,hannaceuticall ndustry) Department of Chemicals & Petro-Chemicals Chairman.

2. Representative of BICP Member.

3. Dr. MA Patel. Commissioner, Food and Drugs Control Admn., Member. Government of Gujarat

4. Assistant Development Commissioner (PI), DepartmeQt of Chemicals & Petrochemicals Member Secretary.

(c) No, Sir. patlon in the Management of Coal India ltd. and its subsidiaries already exists at the (d) Does not arise. colliery and area levels through the Joint Consultative Forums. To strengthen further the participative management, it has been Participation of Employees in manage- decided to nominate 4 Directors on the ment of eoatlndia Umited Boards of Coal India ltd. and each of its subsidiary coal companies to represent 4 2702. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA categories of employees, namely, semi- REDDY: skilled/unskilled workers, skilled workers, SHRI YASHWANTRAO supervisory personnel and executives. The CADAKH PATll: nominees for the Boards of subsidiary companies will be elected by the respective . Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased categories of employees who are in the to state: regular service of the companies through secret ballot to be conducted by the Chief la) whether Union Government have Labour ~ommissioner (Central). One approved a scheme for participation of worker-Director from each ot the four cate- employees in the management of the Coal gories of worker-Directors of all the sub- India ltd. and its subsidiaries; and sidiaries will be elected for nomination on the Board of the CI L There being four cat- (b) if so, the details thereof? egories of worker-Directors, there will be, thus, four worker-Directors on CIL Board. THE MINISTER Of ENERGY (SHRI VAS- The term of worker-Director will normally ANT SATHE): (a) and (b). Workers partici- be of two years. 287 Written Answets NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answets 288

Allocation and lifting of FoocIgrains by 5.T.D. facility in Rajampeta Town of drought affected States Cuddapah District (Andhra Pradesh)

2704. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Will 2706. SHRI K RAMACHANDRA the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- REDDY: PLI ES be pleased to state: SHRI A.J.V.B. MAHESHWARA RAO: (a) the additional supplies of foodgrains and other essential articles for mass con- Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- sumption distributed through the public TIONS be pleased to state: distribution system and allocated to food- affected and drought-affected States during (a) whether a number of people residing the current year, !)tate-wlSe; in "Kuwait" have sent a memorandum to the Government of India for S.T.D. facilities to Rajampeta Town in Cuddapah District in (b) the quantities lifted by the States, Andhra Pradesh; . State-wise beyond and above the annual off-take; and (b) whether Union Government have (c) the estimated strength of the af- taken steps to establish S.T.D. facility to fected population in each State? Rajampeta Town; and

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY (c) if so, when and if not, the reasons AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND thereof? CIVil SUPPLIES: (SHRI H.KL. BHAGAT): (a) to (c). The requisite information is being THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN- collected and will be laid on the Table of ISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI the House. SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) No such memorandum has been received by the department.

Telephone Exchanges in Rented Buildings (b) No, Sir. in Kerala (c) Due to limited resources all the pri- 2705. PROF K-V. THOMAS: Will the ority stations have not yet been provided Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be with STD facility. Non-priority stations like pleased to state: Rajampeta could be considered after priority requirements are met. (a) the number of telephone. exchanges in Kerala which are working in rented buildings; Oosins of Post Offices in Rural Areas (b) what is the rent paid every year; 2707. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY: (e) how much amount is allocated to Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS construct new telephone exchange build- be pleased to state: ings; and (a) the number of Post Offices dosed in (d) the details of these exchanges? rural areas in Andhra Pradesh, Kamatalca; Tamilnadu and Kerala; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN- ISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI (b) the nonns fixed for closure of Post SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) to (d). The offices in rural areas? information is beirw collected and will be laid on the Table of the house. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN· 289 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Written AnsweB 290

ISTRV OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI offices were sub offices and how many SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a). The infor- were branch offices is being collected and mation is as follows: will be laid on the Table of the House.

Circle No. of post offices closed (b) and (c). Information is being col- in rural areas (1986-87) lected and wjJl be laid on the Table of the House. Andhra Pradesh 4 Kamataka 9 Agro-based Industries in Andhra Pradesh Tamil Nadu Nil Kerala Nil 2709. SHRI AJ.V.B. MAHfSWARA RAO: (b) There are no norms as such for clo- SHRI K. RlVvtACHANDRA sure of post offices. Periodical reviews are REDDY: prescribed to assess workload, cost and income. Depending upon the results of re- Win the Minister of INDUSTRY De views, the competent authority is required pleased to state: to examine whether: (a) whether Union Government pro- (i) in the case of departmental sub of- pose to start some agro-based industries in fices the daily workload is less than 5 thIS area to make use of the vast agricul- hours and if so, whether the office tural production of paddy, coconut; banana can be converted into an ext~-de etc; partmentaloffice. (b) the number of applications pending (ii) In the case of extra-departmental of- with Union Government for licences to fices, whether the loss is within the start industries in this area; and prescribed limits and if not, whether the cost can be reduced by reduction (c) if so, when will the licences be is- of establishment or whether the of- sued? fice can be closed; and take an appropriate decision. . THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- Closing of Post Offices MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) Proposals 2708. SHRI AJ.V.B. MAHESWARA RAO. received from time to time for setting up Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS agro-based industries are considered on be pleased to state: merits as per policy in force.

(a) the number of Post Offices, sub-Post (b) and (c). As on 19.11.1987, S2 appli- Offices and Branch Post Offices closed in cations for the grant of Industrial licences the country and the reasons thereof; under the provisions of the Industries (Development and Regulation) Act, 1951 (b) the number of employees affected for locations in Andhra Pradesh were at and how many of them have been given al- various states of processing. Details of ternatIVe appointments; and pending Industria~ licence applications are not divulged till the Government have (c) the .steps taken to rehabilitate the taken final decisions thereon. rest?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN- Bridges Across the River Godavari ISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) The number 2710. SHRI AJ.V.B. MAHESWARA RAO: of post offices closed during 1986-87 was Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND 445. Information as to how many of these NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: 291 Written MswetS NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written AnSwelS 292

(a) Whether the Oil and Natural Gas FCI during the years 1984 to 1987 vis-a-viS Commission have any proposal to build the covered storage capacity available with bridges across the river Godavari at the Corporation during these years is Narasapt:lr and Kotipalli for their transport indicated below: convenience; and (figures in million tonnes) (b) if so, the details thereof? As on Covered Peak level of stocks THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN· capacity with FCI. iSTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAl GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) and (b). Gov- 1.7.1984 18.65 16.35 ernment of Andhra Pradesh has a proposal to construct a bridge across Vasis~a Branch 1.7.1985 19.81 19.86 of river Godavari at Narasapur. ONGe would be sharing half of the estimated cost 1.7.1986 21.34 19.34 of Rs. 12 crores for construction of this bridge. 1.7.1987 21.10 16.73

Storage Capacity of F.C.I. (d) The foodgrain stock is held in the covered capacity to the extent possible. 2711. SHRI HUSSAIN DAlWAI: Will the The remaining foodgrain stock, which Minister of FOOD AND CIVil SUPPLIES be cannot be accommodated in covered pleased to state: godowns is held under cover-and-plinth (CAP) arrangement. Following steps are (a) the storage capacity of the Food taken by the Fel to protect the stocks Corporation of India godowns in the under cover-and-plinth (CAP) country; arrangement:-

(b) whehter it is a fact that the Food i) stocks are stored in CAP storage Cu:-poratlon of India acquires much surplus with proper drainage and dun- stocks of foodgrains than its storage nage arrangement; capacity; ii) the stocks are covered with poly- (c) if so, the quantum of acquisition thene covers and lashed with ny- of such surplus stocks; and lon ropes;

(d) the steps Food Corporation of iii) aeration of stocks in the open is India takes to preserve the surplus stock undertaken during clear weather which cannot be accommodated in Fel to maintain the health of grains; god owns 7 and

THE MINISTER OF PARUAMENTARY iv) periodic inspection is undertaken AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND to control insect infestation, dam- CIVil SUPPLIES (SHRJ H.Kl. BHAGAT): (a) age by rodents, birds etc. As on 1.10.1987, the covered storage capacity for foodgrains with the Food Setting up of Petrochemical Complex at Corporation of India (Fel), owned and Jaigad in Maharashtra hired taken together, was 20.76 million toones. 2712. SHRI HUSSAIN DAlWAJ: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (b) and (c) Procurement of foodgrains is undertaken by Fel at support prices in (a) whether Government have order to provide price support to farmers san~ioned a petrochemical project near and to enable them to dispose of their Jaigad port on Western Coast of foodgrain stock. The peak stock held by Maharashtra; 293 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Written Answers 294

(b) the employment potential of the (a) what is the average quantum of said project and the total cost involved in foodgrains purchased by the M>od the implementation of the said project; and Corporation of I ndia every year In various states; (c) whether this project will be started by private sector or public sector? (b) the year-wise figures of such take over of stocks during the last three years, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE year-wise; and DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. JAICHANDRA (c) the price that was paid for the SINGH): (a) No, Sir. said acquisition of stock during the last three years, year-wise? (b) and (c) Do not arise.

Stock and Purchase of Foodgrains by f.C.I. TH E MI N ISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND 2713. SHRI HUS~N DAlWAI: CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K.L BHAGAT): (a) SHRI R..P. DAS: and (b). The total quantity of foodgrains procured, directly and taken-over from the Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL States by the Food Corporation of India SUPPLIES be pleased to stater during the last 3 year,; was as under.-

(In lakh tonnes)

Year Qty. procured Qty. of wheat taken-over I wheat paddy rice . delivered

1984-85 21.25 19.88 73.56 57.41

1985-86 25.97 20.61 71.21 65.48

1986-87 35.95 15.74 74.61 78.71 (includes prevIous years stocks)

Rice is generally procured by the FCI, direct.

1984-85 1985-86 1986-87 Rabi / Kharif Rabi/Kharif Rabi /Kharif Rs./QtI. Rs./QtI. Rs./Qtl.

Wheat 152 157 162

PadcJv Common 137 142 146

Fine 141 146 150

Super- 145 150 154 fine. Rice was procured under levy at the statutory prices notified by the State Govemments. 295 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 wntten An5WelS 296

[Translatiohl Indore (including Mhow) Jabalpur Criteria for Providing s. T.O. Facility Jaora Katni (point-t

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Expansion of Hindustan Cables Ltd. unit MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI at Rupnarayanpur in West Bengal SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) The names of places In Madhya Pradesh where STD 2715. SHRI MANIK SANYAl: Will the facility has been provided are available in Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: the statement below. (a) whether it is a fact that for (b) All the places at Annexure·1 fulfil obsolescence of technicalities the the criteria adopted for provision of S.T.O. production of paper insulated dry core cables at Hindustan Cables' Rupnarayanpur (c) I n view of the limited availability unit in West Bengal is going to be stopped of resources the following criteria are In 1988-89; followed In Identifyang places for the prOVISion of STD facility. (b) if so, whether a proposal for expansion of 18 lakh CKM Jelly filled cables i) State Capitals had been placed by Hindustan Cables' ii) Unton Territory Capitals Rupnarayanpur Unit in 1981; iii) District Headquarters iv) Automatic Exchange of capacity (c) whether the said proposal was 1000 lines and above. recommonded ~y PIB; v) Automatic exchanges which are linked by reliable transmission (d) whether Government have media. approved the said plan; and

STATEMENT (e) if not, the reasons thereof?

Places in Madhya Pradesh with SID facility THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF Bhopal INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) Bilaspur The Deptt. of Telecommunications has Burhanpur indicated to Hindustan Cables Umited Dewas (HCl) their intention to phase out the Dull (including Bhilai) purchase of Dry Core Cables being Char produced at Rupnarayanpur Unit of HCl. Cwalior (including Morar) This may, however, take sometime. 297 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAJG-\) Written AnswelS 298

(b) to (d) The proposal for expansion of guiCtance to prospectIVe entrepreneurs, capacity by 18 lakh Conductor kilometers recommendations on policy matters as well (CKNt) for manufacture of Jelly Filled Cables as indigenous angle clearance for imports III Rupnarampur Unit of HCL was earlier by ONGC, Oil India Umited and Gas considered by Government in 1983 but Authority of India LImited are made by the was deferred pending finalisation of targets Empowered Committee of Secretaries. for telecommunication sector for 7th Plan. However owmg to demand as also [Translation] resource constraints/ no further progress Power Generation Capacity could be made so far Meanwhile/ the company has been advised to revise the 2717. SHRI VIJOY KUMAR YADAV: Will cost estimates ot the proJect. the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (e) Does not anse. (a) whether it is a fact that the power Indigenisation in oil Sector generation has been seriously affected by the drought and floods In various parts of 2716. SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI: the country this year; and DR. V. VENKATESH: (b) if so, the scheme formulated by Will the MInister of PETROLEUM AND Government to ensure that power NATURAL CAS be pleased to state: generation capacity is not affected by floods and drought in future? (a) whether Government have THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE evolved a three-tier structure to promote DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE ,ndlgemsatlon In the 0,1 sector; and MINISTRY OF ENERCY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI):,(a) The total power (b) It so, the broad outhnes thereof? ~eneration during April to October, 1981 was less than the target by about 3% THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE primarily on account of the shortfall in MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL hyde I generation due to low reservefr GAS (SHRI BRAH!\1A DUTT): (a) and (b). In levels as a result of the drought In various order to promote indlgenisation of oil field parts of the country. The thennal equipment and services/ the Government generation dunng thiS penod was more has evolved a three-tier organisational than the target by about 1.3%. arrangement as follows: (b) In order to improve the availability of power in the country, various measures are being taken which include expediting I) Import substitution commissioning of new capacity, optimum groups/indigenisation Cells in utilisation of existing capaCity, reducing ONCC and OIL transmiSSion and distribution losses, commissioning of short gestation projects and ii) A Study Group on indigenisation Implementation of load management and under the Chief Consultant, Oil energy conservation measures etc. Industry Development Board.

iii) The Empowered Committee of [Eng/Ish] Secretaries on indigenisation under the MinIStry of Petroleum Setting up of Super Thermal Power and Natural Gas. Station at Manuguru, Andhra Pradesh

While the indigenisation cells and the 2718. SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA Study Group has been interacting with the RAO: Will the Minister of ENERGY be indigenous in~ustry for providing necessary pleased to state: 299 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written MsWeIs 300

(a) the latest position in regard to ever, no authoritative source or basis has setting up a 200 MW Super Thermal Power been cited for the figures mentioned. Station at Manuguru in Andhra Pradesh by the National Thermal Power Corporation; (c) and (d). The steps taken during the last three years and the current plans to (b) the factors responsible for delay; develop and encourage utilisation of and energy from animal sources include Research and Development and Survey and (c) the likely date by which the work Demonstration Projects for which a total on Super Thennal Station at Manuguru expenditure of Rs. 1.17 crores has been would be started? sanctioned by the Department of Non- Conventional Energy Sources. Improved THE MINISTER Of STATE IN THE carts and implements are being shown to DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE fa rm t'rs under the Demonstration MINISTRY OF' ENERGY (SHRIMATI programmes. An outlay of Rs. 2 crores has SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) to (c). The been ear-marked in the budget for 1987-88 National Thermal Power Corporation are for programmes for improvement in the currently in the process of preparing a utilisation of draught animal power. feasibility report in respect of setting up a super thermal power project at Manuguru Manufacture of 6 APA in Andhra Pradesh. The project could be considered for Implementation only after 2720. DR. KRUPASINDHU SHOI: Will its techno-economic viability has been the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to estabhshed and all necessary Inputs, state: including the availability of funds and of coal, have been tied up. (a) whether different machinery is required to manufacture 6 APA by Cattle and other Animal Sources of enzymatic process if manufactured by Energy Penicillin-V instead of PenicilUn-G; and

2719 DR. A.K PATEL: Will the Minister (b) if so, the details thereof and if not, of ENERGY be pleased to state: why the issue of Penicillin-V raw material is not allowed to small scale industry? (a) whether cattle and other anamal sources make available about 66 per cent THE MINtSTER OF STATE tN THE of the total energy utilised in India, while DEPARTMENT Of CHEMICALS AND that from coal and petroleum products i~ PETROCHEMICALS IN THf MINISTRY OF only about 14 per cent; INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K JAICHANDRA SINGH): (a) and (b). In the production of (b) if so, the details ,hereof and how 6-AP A, Chemicals, type of enzymes, these figures have been arrived at, process parameters etc. would depend upon starttflg raw material as well as the (c) the steps taken during each of the technology. These factors would in tum last three years and the current year to determine the design of plant and develop and encourage the former sources equipment. As per policy of the and With results thereof; and Government, units using Penicillin Care allowed to import only Penicillin C and no (d) the current plans 10 this regard? shifting to Penicillin V is allowed. Selling of Land and Building by MIs Ben· THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- gal Chemicals and Pharmaceuticals lim- PARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY ited OF ENERCY (~tfKtMAII ~U~HILA RO- HTACI): (a) and (b). A statement to this ef- 2721. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Will the fect appears in a private publication. How- Minister of IN DUSTRV be pleased &0 state: 301 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Written Answen 302

(a) whether sanction has been units- in- India are lying with Government sought by the management of Bengal for a long time; Chemicals and Phannaceuticals Umited to sell off lts allegedly "surplus" land and (b) if so, the proJect-wise details of buildings in Bombay at Inflated prices of the consortia's offers pending disposal by real estate; Government for more than two years;

(b) If so, whether such sanction has (c) the reasons for such long delays; been given, whereas the company has no and plans to Improve Its own production and viability in the long run; and (d) the time when they are likely to be cleared? (c) whether the nationalised chemical and pharmaceutical firms which THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE were made 'Sick' by their former private DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE owners will be merged into a single unit? MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) and (b). Primary THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE reliance for implementation of power DEPARTMENT Of CHEMICALS AND projects continues to be placed on PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY Of indigenous resources. External assistance is INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. JAICHANDRA availed selectively and, on merits, SINGH): (a) and (b). Bengal Chemicals and depending on the totality of circumstances Pharmaceuticals limited, IS presently an each case. No detailed and complete conducting modest operations at offers from foreign consortia are pending Prabhadevl, Bombay as 110 expansion is disposal for over two years. allowed in their present site. As a part of their Rehabilitation plan, the company (c) and (d). Do not anse. propose to Stllft their present manufactunng faCilities at Prabhadevl, Bombay to Trans- Thane Creek Estate of Import of Coat Maharashtra Industnal Development Corporation. They have, therefore, 2724. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIl: Witl the approached Government of Maharashtra MInister of ENERGY be pleased to state: for the allotment of sUltabfe land at TCC- Thane area and also to permit change of (a) whether substantaal quantity of use of their Prabhadevi property from coal has to be Imported because Industnal to residential to enable them to Indigenous vanety IS very hagh in ash dtspose of that land as residential land and content and It IS not condUCive for all thereby generate funds urgently needed by andustnal uses; them for the reVival of the company. (b) whether In America a low cost (c) At present Covernment has no technology has been developed which will proposal to merge the three Calcutta based nde the ash of coal and make its full use for nationalised drug companies all purposes possible;

Proposal from Foreign Consortia for (c) whether any measures to import Setting up of Power Units the technology have been taken; and

2723. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATll: Will the (d) what saving would be effected by Minister of ENE RGV be pleased to state: redUCing Imports and making fuHer utilisation of Indigenous resources? Ca) whether even though the country is sufferang from shortage of power, a THE MINISTER Of ENERGY (SHRI number of proposals from foreign consortia VASANT SATHE): (a) No, Sir, A limited to collaborate I asSist In setting up power quantity of prime coking coal is imported 303 Written Answets NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written AnMes 304

to supplement andagenous ~~()n and of indigenous coking coal ~nd quantity for blending purposes, as Indigenous imported by Steel sector during the last coking coal has high ash content. Offtake two years are as unfler: (figs. in million tonnes)

Year Offtake of indigenous Quantity imported coking coal

2.45 1985-86 24.49

1986-87 23.39 2.56

In the case of non-coking coal, superior MENT IN THE MINISTRY Of INDUSTRY quality of coal has been allowed to be (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to (d). By a imported on Open General Ucence and Notification No. S. O. 65(E) dated limited imports are resorted to by 21.2.1986, a copy of which was placed on industries entitled to them. the Table of the House on 28.2.1986, Gov- ernment have. under the provisions of Sec- (b) to (d). The infonnation is being tion 22A of the MRTPAct, 1969, exempted collected and will be laid on the Tabte of 52 industries for which MRTP companies the House. would not have to seek Government approval under Sections 21 or 22 of the said Act. The conditions under which such exemption is available are spelt out in the Industries Taken Out of Provisions of said Notification. FERA companies, how- MRTP Act and FERA Act ever, have to obtain clearance under ~e FERA in respect of these groups of indus- 2725. SHRIMATI CEETA MUKHERJEE: tries. Wi.. the Minister of INDUSTRY be pIeMed to state: (e) and (f) .. No such case has come to the notice of the Government. In any case, (a) whether it is a fact that 52 more exemption is available to MRTP companies If'OOps of industries have been taken out of only on futfilment of the conditions speci- the purview of the Monopolies and Restri- fied in this behalf. ctive Trade practices Act/foreign Exchange Regulation Act; Use of Cas by States

(b) if so, the groups which are still un- 2726. PROf. MADHU DANDAVATE: der the purview of these Acts; WiU the Minister of PETORLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (c) whether exemption has been granted under certain conditions; (a) whether Government propose to review the policy of the use of natural gas (d) if so, what are these conditions; by the State 10 which it IS found; and

(e) whether any company has been found to have Violated these conditions; (b) if not, the reasons therefor? and THE MINISTER OF STA'II£ OF THE MIN- (f) If so, the details and the action ISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS taken, if any, against such companies? (SH RI BRAHMA DUTI): (a) and (b) There is no policy to confine "!5e of .natural gas to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE· the State in which gas is found. Utilisation PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP· 01 natural gas is decided on consideration 305 Written Answen ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAIG-1) Written AnswetS 306 of ove~'1 priorities or ~wntry s ecooomic THE MINISTER OF STATE IN DEPART- development keeping in view optimum MENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF economic utilisation of all fractions of natu- ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHllA ROHTAGI): rals-. (a) and (b) The following nine hydroelectric projects have so far been taken up by Na- Power Projects and Coal Mining Projects tional Hydroelectric Power Corporation pending clearance (N HPC) for execution:·

2727. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: i) Baira Siul HE Project (180 MW) in Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to H.P. state: ii) Loktak HE Project (105 MW) in (a) whether a large number of power Manipur. projects and coal mining projects in the State and Central sectors are held up for iii} Devighat HE Project (14.1 MW) in want of environmental clearance; Nepal.

(b) if so, the details of those projects in IV) Salal HE Project (345 MW) In J&K. the State and Central sectors; v) Dul Hasti HE Project (390 MW) in (c) the date since when these projects J&K. are pending for clearance; vi) Chamera HE Project (540 MW) in (d) the steps taken to give early clear- H.P. ance of these projects; vii) Tanakpur HE Project (120 MW) in (e) the amount involved in these pro- U.P jects; and Viii) Koel Karo Project (710MW) in (f) the details thereof? Bihar

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- ix) Uri HE Project (480 MW) in J&K. PARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA RO- Four of these projects, namely, Bairs HTAGI): (a) to (f). The information is being, Siul, Loletak, Salal and Devighat H. E. Pro- collected and will be laid on the Table of jects have been completed by the NH PC. the House. (c) The progress so far made at the Execution of Power Projects by N.H.P.C. remaining five projects is as under.-

2728. SHRlMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK ;) Dul Hasti HE Project Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: The construction of mam works of the projects has commenced after completion ta) the number of power projects of infrastructural and other preconstruction taken up for executioR by the National Hy- works. The project is scheduled to be dro-electric Power Corporation so far; completed in 57 months after sigtlin& contract for tum-key execution of the projec.t . with a French Consortium, for which de- (b) the number out of them completed tailed discussions are in progress for final- so far; and ising the contract.

(c) the details thereof and the progress ii) OIamera HE Project made in the completion of other power projects 1 The worlc on major structures of the 307 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers 308

project is progressing after completion' ot NHPC has been authorised to take up necessary infrastructllral facilities. The pro- the infrastructural development work of the ject is expected to be completed by May, Project, which is under progress. 1991. Drilling of Wells by ONce iii) Tanakpur HE Project 2729. SHRI H.N. NANJE GOWDA Will The' work on the infrastructural facilities the Minister of PETRCJlEUM AND ~TU has been completed. Work on major struc- RAl GAS be pleased to state: tures of the project is progressing. The project is expected to be completed by (a) whether a proposal has been pre- March, 1990. pared by the Oil and Natural Gas Commis- sion for drilling of wells in 1987-88; iv) Koel Karo HE Project (b) if so, what are the areas selected Apart from putting up certain infrastruc- for drilling of wells, number of wells, drilled tural facilities on 191 acres of land, so far so far and total expenditure to be inwrred: handed over to NH PC by the State Gov- emment, no major works of the project could be taken up due to organised resis- (c) whether some wells are likely to be tance from the local people to the acquisi- drilled in Kamataka also; and tion of land required for the project. Some of the persons affected by the project have (d) if not, the reasons therefor? also filed a Writ Petition in the Supreme Court asking 'land for Jand' and for adopt- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF TffE MIN- ing liberal rehabilitation measures. The ISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS Court has issued interim orders prohibiting (SHRI BRAHMA DUTI): (a) and (b) Yes, Sir. dispossession of tile land owners. ONGC have drilled 202 wells against 381 planned in the following basins/areas dur- v) Uri Hydro-electric Project ing the year 1987-88:-

ONSHORE No. of Wells No. of Wells proposed tor drilled from 1987-88 April to Oct'87 1 2 3

1. Cambay basin (Gujarat) 163 98

2. Kutch-Saurashtra (Gujarat) 1

3. Rajasthan 4

4. Upper Assam inctuding Naga Hills & Cachar 72

5. Assam-Arakan Fold Belt (T ripura) 7 5 309 Written AnswetS AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAJV\) Written Answets 310

1 2 3

6. West Bengal 2

7. Krishna-Godavari (AP) 7 7

8. Cauvery basin 6 5 (Tamil Nadu/Pondicherry)

9. Himalayan Foothills & 3 2 Ganga Valley (Bihar, Jammu & Kashmir, Himachal Pradesh)

OFFSHORE

1. Bombay 102 40

2. Kerala-Konkan-Aakshdweep 1

3. Andamans 2 1

4. Kutch-Saurashtra 4

5. Krishna-Godavari 2 1

6. Cauvery 5 4

7. West Bengal 2 1 TOTAl.: 381 202 rotal expenditure anticipated to be in- (a) the number of new post offices curred on exploratory and development opened In Kamataka State; and drilling during 1987-88 (RE) is ~. 886.11 crores excluding capital acquisition. (b) the demand for openang of new post offices? (c) No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN- (d) 0;1 is generated and, except in very ISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI few cases, accumulated in sedimentary SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) (a) One new rocks. Only iginitious and metamorphic post office wu opened in Kamataka during rocks, along with recent sediments, are 1985-86, and none during 1986~87. So far, present in IQimataka. As such the area is during 1987-88, one new post office has not considered favourable from the point been approved. of view of oil exploration.

Opening of Post OffICes in Karnataka (b) Postmaster General Karnataka Cir- cle has submitted 5 more proposals for 2730. SHRI H.N. NANJE GOWDA: Will opening new post offices during the cur- th~ Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be rent year which are under scrutiny. The to- pleased to state: tal number of pending requests for new 311 Written Answers NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Written Answers 312

post offices in Kamataka IS beang ascer- [English] tained and the information will be laid on the Table of the House Discussion with Nepal on Karnali River Project (Trans/atlon) 2732. SHRI PRAKASH V PATIL: Will the Rate of Interest by R.E.C. from the States MInister ot ENERGY be pleased to state.

2731 SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH Will (a) whether diSCUSSions were recently the MInister of ENERGY be pleased to held With Nepal ever the K.arnalt river pro- state: Ject,

(a) whether the protlt ot Rural Electnf,- (b) rf so, whether any agreement couid cation Corporation New Deihl IS Increasmg be arrived at and If so, the details thereof, every year, It so, the profit dunng the last and three years, (c) It not, the areas ot difference and (b) whether the corporation takes how It IS proposed to be brldged1 loans from other organisations at lower rates of Interest and charges higher rates at THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ill- Interest trom the States, If so, the reasons PARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY thereat, and Of ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA RO- HTAGI) (a) Yes, Sir

(c) whether Government propose t~ (b) and (c) The Karnall Committee had reduce the rate of Interest bemg charged dended that a Technscal level Committee from Madhya Pradesh for the loans ad· would review the progress of the work and vanced to that State 1 IIllpednnents which may anse at regular 111· THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE· terva1s, to formulate appropriate measures PARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY for their removal It would also reVle\\ the OF ENERGY (SHRltvtATI SUSHILA RO- Inception Report for formulatang SUitable HTAGI)' (a) Yes, Sir the profit earned by gUidelmes and instructions for the Consul- Rural ~lectnTiCatlon Lorporatlon aunng tne tants The Committee had also deCided to last three years are as below. have the detailed feaSibility report of the Project expedited by the Consultants (Rs an lalhs) Import Policy for Drugs and Drug Inter. 1984-85 1985-80 1986-87 mediates Profit after tax 1331.52 1619.32 2379.90 2733 DR KRUPASINDHU BHOI win the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state (b) The Corporation obtaans loans from the Government of I ndla and through Mar- (a) the process of Import pohcy under ket Borrowings and disburses the same at a which dlstnbutlon of drug and drug anter- slightly higher rate of Interest to cover the mediates could be given to a public sector service charge as well as the difference due drug manufacture Ulllt, to loans given at concesslonal rate of mter- est for HanJan Bast IS, Rural ElectriC Coop- (b) whether thiS policy IS III contraven· eratives Schemes etc., which are also fi- tlon of the Chavada Conunlttee's recom- nanced by the Corporation. mendations accepted by Goveillment,

(C} If so, the reasons theretor, and (c) The rate of Interest charged on REe's loans IS the same for all the States Includmg (d) the prace norms at which a public Madhya Pradesh. sector company can sell these Items? 313 Written AnSWeB AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (Si\AI\) Written AnswelS 314

THE MINISTER O~ STATE IN THE D(- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- PARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETRO- PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY OF IN- MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY DUSTRY: (SHRI R.K JAICHANDAA SINGH) (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and (b) A (a) to (d) The information is being collected levy scheme on retted husk as well as and will be laid on the Table of the House. {treen husk at the retting site was introduced in the State of Kerala on an experi- Drugs required for control of diseases mental basis for a period of one year with under National Health Programme effect from 1.9.1986. The scheme envisaged that the maximum limit for procure- 2734. DR. CHANDRA SHEKAHAR TRI- ment of husk will be 30 per cent, with the PATHI: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be State Government determining the price to pleased to state: be paid for retted husk/green husk procured under the levy system. With the in- (a) whether Government identified troduction of levy scheme, restrictions on around 90 drugs required for control of movement was removed by rescinding the diseases under the National HeaJth Pro- Coconut Husk Control Order, 1973 issued gramme; under Essential Commodities Act, 1955. The above levy scheme has since been ex- (b) if so, whether the list of these tended from 1.9.87 till the end of the cur- drugs was recommended for pnce control; rent year plan period viz. 31.3.1990.

(c) whether the list of drugs was re- 12.10 hrs. duced lateor on; and [English] (d) if so, the basIs on which the list (Interruptions) was reduced along with the names of drugs? MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: I will call all of you. Please sit down. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- PARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETRO- KUMARI MAMATA BAN ERJ I: E (jadav- CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY OF IN- pur): Please allow me. This matter IS very DUSTRY: (SHRI R.K JAICHANDRA SINGH): important. The Prime Minister and the (a) to (d) Drugs included in Category I for Minister of Banking are very sympathetic price control are based on the recommen- towards us, but the managements do not dations of the Ministry of Health and Fam- listen ... : ily Welfare are contained in the Drugs (Prices Control) Order, 1987, copies of (Interruptions) which were laid on the table of the House on 27th August, 1987. MR DEPUTY SPE."'J

2735. PROF. K. V. THOMAS: Will the (Interruptions)·· Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state:

(a) the salient features ot the policy of Government on levy on coconut husk; and MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: I am not allOWing thiS. WIthout my permission if anybody (b) the salient features of the polICY of speaks, nothang will go on record. Government on the movement of coconut husk? (Interruptions)· •

.* Not recorded. 315 NOVEMBFR 24, 1987 316

MR.DEPUTY SPEAKER:·f'lease take your jeet. You raise it there. No; you cannot raise seats. I will call you. it here. Because the State Covernment is concerned, we cannot do anything about it. (Interruptions)·· (Interruptions)'" • MR .. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Take your seat first, Madam. Take your seat. What is this? MR. DE PUTY SPEAKEl: Please take your Why are you dOing this unnecessarily? First seats. That is all. (Interruptions). Mr Ram take your seat, Madam; I will call you. Dhan, please take your seat. I told you this is a State subject. I cannot allow you to dis- (Interruptions)· ... cuss it in this manner. That is all. ·That action has already been taken by the State MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Kindly ten me Government. I cannot do any thing now. whether you understand English or not. let their members raise it there. Tell rile: in which language should , convey things to you? I requested you to take your seat, but you are not doing It, but you are [Trans/ation] shouting like this. First take your seat; I will call you. SH RI RMt DHAN: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Dr. Ambedkar is not a state subject. (interruptions)·· [English) MR. DE pun SPEAKE R: Take your seats. I . will call all of you. I will call each one of MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: ThiS action was you. Why are you shouting? taken by the State Government That is what I am tellmg you. Therefore, I cannot (Interruptions)· • allow.

Now Mr Chatterjee. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now Mr. Ram- dhan: Your matter is a State subject. We SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (Bolpur): cannot take It up here as an .adjournment I have given an adJournment motion on the motion. Therefore, I cannot allow that. You hIgh handed manner an which senior offi- have raised some matter, and given an cers III thiS country are being treated. The adjournment motion; I cannot aUow It, be- CommisSioner of Pohce was unceremoni- cause It IS the problem of the Maharashtra ously sent away ... State Government. You go and raise it there .... MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: Already action [Translation) has been taken by the authOrities. That cannot be questioned If at all you want SHRI RAM DHAN (Lalganj): Mr. Deputy anystung, you give a calling attention. I wilt Speaker, Sir, some portions from the books conSider it. You give It. of Dr. Ambedkar, the founding father of our Constitution, are being deteted. It is the SHRI SOMNATH CHATERJEE: At number question of the down trodden of the entire of officers have been shabbily treated, like country. this. (Interruptions)·· MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr Ch,1tterJee, [fnglish) please Sit down.

MR.,DEPUlY SPEAKER: No, no. That is all. You can raise it there. It is a State sub- (In terruptlOns ). • •• Not recorded. 317 ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) 318

[Translation) M·R. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Firstly, I will ~HRI RAJ KUMAR KAI (Ghosi): Shri find out the facts and then see. Dharmpal Singh Rawat is the most honest (interruptions) I.A.S. Officer of Uttar Pradesh and he is on MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: First I will find hunger strike.... (InterruptIon,,) out the facts and then decide whether the caU;:"g attention can be admitt~d or not. [English] Before that how can I say? MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Nothing will go (Interruptions) on record. (Interruptions)·· SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY (Krishnagin): The State Bank of India is not allowing IN- KUMARI MM1ATA BANERJEE: Our TUC Unions to open their account. Is this., Prime Minister and the Banking Minister democratIC way of functlonlO~? are very sympathetic towards MPs and the} listen to our problems. But the manage· (Interruptions) ment of the banks do not bother to listen MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: Are you raising to MPs. They have the audacity to misbe~ the same matter as Madam Mamata have with us. Today, INTUC Unions are al- Banerjee? ready staging a dharna in front of Jeevan (InterruptIons) ~rakash Building in Delhi and SO MPs are attending it against the management's ac- '. MR,DEPUlY SPEAKER: I nat is all. tivities because they are victimising and will find out the facts from the Minister and then see. humiliating our officers and employees in (Intprruptions) different regions. We want a full discussion in this House and government should take SHRI ASUTOSH lAW. (Dum Dum):Ence- action against the conupt management. phalitis is a serious health hazard around (Interruptions) Calcutta particularly in the Salt Lake area and eastern part of Calcutta. There are MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: I have re- about a lakh of pigs going around this area. ceived their representation. I will pass it on They are creatins a health hazard problem to the Minister concerned. After finding out for the local people. Who will take action? full facts, I will inform you. ~he State Cov~mment is 110t taking ac- KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE: We want tion .... (InterruptIons) a discussion. Mr. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No, I cannot MR DEPUlY SPEAKER: I will fand out the allow. facts first. SHRI SOMNATH RATH (Aska): Please (Interruptions) allow a discussion on the issue regarding MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: first I will find banks. (Interruptions) out the facts ... MR. DtPUTY SPEAKER: After finding (Interruptions J out the tacts I will allow, not now. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I will try to (lnterrIlO( ,on") find out the facts from the Minister and SH RI SHANTARAM NAI K (Panaji) Are then let you know. you assuring us a discussion on the bank ... (Interruptions) 109 matter? (Interruptions) SHRI BRAjAMOHAN MOHAN rY (Pun): Around 1000 bank employees affiliated to MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: After finding out INTUC have been victimised In the last one year; their trade union rights are being de- the facts I will consider it. nied. A notice of calling attention has been SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (Bankura): My given. Kindly anow it. calling attention is pendins with you for the . la5t two weeks. This is a.very serious mat ... (Interruptions) ter. The ~ernent of Orissa Cement • •• Not recorded. 319 NOVEMBER 24, 1987 32f

Ltc. haci declared an illegal lockout of their SHRI SHANTARAM NArK: About the Refractory Unit at Rajgangpur. bank matter, you are not telling us whether (Interruptions) a discussion will be aHowed or not. MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: You give in MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: What motion writing. have you given? Have you given an ad- joumment motion? SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: I have gIVen a notice of calling attention. Five thousands SH RI SHANTARAM NAI K: f will give a workers are now out of job. motion if you are assuring us. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I cannot. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I will find it out. (Interruptions) SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS (Mavelikara): SHRI HANNAN MOUAH (Uluberia): I have given earlier an adjournment motion The Industrial Development Bank of India on the expenditu-:e of Rs. 15 crores by Air assigned a job to the UtkaI University and India for taking the Prime Minister for its Economics Department Head, Shri Pat- CHOGM. Subsequent to that I have given naik submitted a report about Orissa's In- a calling attention. dustrial Development. Now the lOBI MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: Earlier this, I Chainnan is fon:ing him to change the re.- cannot take up. Now I cannot allow. port, and asking him to delete some por_ tion. He is being threatened on telephone. SHRI THAMPAN THO~: It IS a very His wife has been threatened on te1e- serious matter. When the country is in phone. dfOll8htt Rs. 15 crores have been spent by the Prime Minister. This has been pub- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER. I will pass it on lished in the India Today. If it is true, ... to the Minister and find out.

(Interruptions) SHRI HANNAN MOllAH: This is a serious situation. Indian Express has pUblished this. We want a dSa..sion. (Interruptions) MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: Now I cannot [Translation J allow. (Interruptions) SHRI C. JANCA REDDY (Hanamkoncia): SHRI P. KOLANDAIVElU (Gobichetti- There is no buyer for the paddy that bas paIayam): With regard to Sri lanka I read in been damaged. Nobody is prepared to buy the papers that the IPKF has started it at the support price fixed by the Food operations. What happened to the COFp.DlCltion. The fanner is suffering ... cease-fire? I want to know whether the [English) term has been extended or not and whether the Government is coming for- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You give in ward will a statement or not. Yesterday I writing. pressed the matter. (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUlY -SPEAKER: The Minister is not here. I will pass on your message to SHR1 SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY the Minister and try to find out. (Katwa): We have not heard anything as to what they were asking. SHRI P. KOLANDAIVElU: You can ask the Minister to make a statement here with MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER: That is good. Do reprd to the position now. not worry.

(Interruptions) (Interruptions) 321 Papers Laid AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAKA) Papers Laid 322

SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: If you have CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K.L BHACAT): I made some sympathetic observations we beg to lay on the table a copy of the Food would have been satisfied. Corporation of India (Staff) (Ninety Eighth (Interruptions) Amendment) Regulations. 1987 (Hindi and English versions) published in Notification DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Nothing will MR. No. 44/FNo. EP 8-1/84 in Gazette of India go on record dated the 16th October, 1987 under

l sub-section (5) of section 45 of the Food .. (Interruptions)·· Corporations Act, 1964. 12.18 hrs. [Placed in I ibrary. See No. IT-5080/87]

PAPERS lAID ON THE TABLE Review on the working of and Annual fllS/ishJ Reports of Bongaigaon RefinerJ and Petrochemicals Ltd. for 1986-87 and Lu· Review on the working of and Annual brizallndia Ltd. Bombay for 1986-87 etc Report of Maruti Udyog Ltd., Ne\f Delhi for 1986-87 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. ISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS VENGAL RAO): I beg to lay on the table a (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): I beg to lay on the copy each of following papers (Hindi and table-- English versions) under sub-section (1) of (1) A copy each of the following paper section 619A of the Companies Act, 1956:-- (Hindi and English versions) under (1) A statement regarding Review by the sub..section (1 ) of section 619A of the Government on the working of the MaNti Companies Act, 1956:-- Udyog Umited, New Delhi, for the year (a) (i) Review by the Government on the 1986-87; VJorking of the Bongaigaon Refinery and (2) Annual Report of the Manati Udyog Petrochemicals Limited, for the year 1986- Umited, New Delhi, for the year 1986-87 87. along with Audited Accounts and the com- (ii) Annual Report of Bongaigaon Refin- ments of the Comptroller and Auditor Gen- ery and Petrochemicals Umited, for the eral thereon. year 1986-87 along with Audited Accounts [Placed in Ubrary. See No. LT-S078/87.1 and the comments of the Comptroller and Statement correcting Answer to USQ No. Auditor General thereon. 1341 dt. 4.8.1987 re: Additional revenue [Placed in library. See No. LT-5081/87.] on account of revision of coal p:ices and (b) (i) Review by the Government on the statement for delal correcting the in working of the Lubrizol I ndia Limited, repty. Bom~y, for the year 1986-87. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VAS- (ii) Annual Report of the lubrizol Indi, ANT SATHE): I beg to lay on the table a Limited, Bombay, for the year 1986-87 Statement (Hindi and English versions) (I) along with Audited Accounts and the com- correcting the reply given on the 4th Au- ments of the Comptroller and Auditor Gen- gust, 1987 to Unstarred Question No. 1341 by Shri E. Ayyapu Reddy regardi~g. addi- eral thereon. tional revenue on account of reVISion of [Placed in Ubrary. See No. LT-5082/87) coal prices by coal India LImited ~nd (ii) (2) A Statement (Hindi and English ver- giving reasons for delay in correctmg the sions) (i) correcting the reply given on the reply. 18th August, 1987 to Unstarred Question [Placed in Library. See No. LT-S079/87.J No. 3479 by Shri Virdhi Chander Jain re- Notification under Food Corporation Act, garding Petrol Pumps in Rajasthan and (ii) 1964 giving reasons for delay in correcting the THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY reply. AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF fOOD AND [Placed in Library. See No. IT-S083/87.) ------.------•• Not recorded 323 Papers Laid NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Papers Laid 324

Notifications under Central Excises and Notification No. C.S.R.850(E) in Gazette of Salt Act, 1944 and Customs Act, 1962 I ndia dated the 12th October, 1987 under THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN- su~ection (3) of section 642 of the ISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA Companies Act, 1956. POOJARY): I beg to lay on the table-- [Placed in library. See No. IT-S087/87] (1) A copy of the Central Excise (Sixth (3) A copy of Notification No. S.O. Amendment) Rules, 1987 (Hindi and En- 960(E) (Hindi and English versions) pub- glish versions) published in Notification lished in Gazette of India dated the 28th No. G.S.R., 782 (E) in Cazettee of India October, 1987 directing that the provisions dated the 15th September, 1987 under of section 21 and 22 of the Monopolies sub-section (2) of section 38 of the Central and Restrictive Trade Practices Act, 1969 Excise and Salt Act, 1944. shall not apply to any proposal for the in- [Placed in library. See No: IT-5084/871. crease in the production of any goods or the provision of any services which are (2) A copy each of the following NotIfi- meant exclusively for export outside India cations (Hindi and English versions) under and or which relates to an undertaking es- section 159 of the Customs Act, 1962:-- tablished or proposed to be established in (i) S.O. 986 (E) published in Gazette of a free trade zone, under sub-section (3) of India dated the 13th November, 1987 to- section 22A of the Monopolies and Restric- gether with an explanatory memorandum tive Trade Practices Act 1969. regarding revised rates· of exchange for [Placed in library. See No. IT-5088/87] conversion of Austrian Schillings, Dutch (4) (i) A copy of the Annual Repon Guilders, Pound Sterling and Swiss Francs (Hindi and English versions) of the Na- Into I ndlan currency or vice-versa. tional Institute of Small Industl)' Extension (ii) S.O. 9a7(E) published in Gazette of Training, Hyderabad, for the year 1986-87 India dated the 16th November, 1987 to- along with Audited Accounts. gether with an explanatory memorandum regarding revised rate of exchange for con- (ii) A Statement (Hindi and Enghsh ver- version of Danish Kroner into Indian cur- sions), regarding ReView by the Govern- rency or vice-versa. ment on the working of the National Insti- (Placed in library. See No. IT-5085/87.] tute of Small Industry Extension Traming, Hyderabad, for the year 1986-87. Notifications under Petroleum Act, 1934 [Placed in library. See No. IT-S089/87] Companies Act, 1956 and Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Practices Act, 1969 Review of the working of and Annual and Annual Report and Review on the Report of Hindustan Antibiotics ltd. working of National Institute of Small Pimpri, Pune for 1986-87. Industry Extension Training, Hyderabad THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TH£ DE- for 1986-87 PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM): On behalf of PARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP: Shri R.K Jaichandra Singh, I beg to lay on MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY the table a copy each of the follOWing pa· (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): I beg to lay on pers (Hindi and ERglish versions) under the table-- sub-section (1) of section 619A of the (1) A copy of the Petroleum (Amend- Companies Act, 1956:-- ment) Rules, 1987 (Hindi and English (1) Review by the Government on the versions) published in Notification No. C.S. working of the Hindustan AntibiotiCS lim- R. 581 (E) in Cazette of India dated the Ited, Pimpri, Pune, for the year 1986-87. 22nd June, 1987 under sub-section (4) of (2) Annual Report of the Hindustan An- section 29 of the Petroleum Act, 1934. tibiotics limited, Pimpn, Pune, for the year [Placed in Ubrary. See No. IT.5086/87] 1986-87 along with Audited Accounts and (2) A copy of the Companies (Accep· the comments of the Comptroller and Au- tance of Deposits) Amendment Rules, 1987 ditor General thereon. (Hindi and English versions) published In [Placed in library. See No. LT-S090/87] 325 Matters Under Rule 377 GRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAKA) Matters Under Rule 377 326

12.20 hrs. em-most part ot the country To obviate the prevallmg acute unemployment and' BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE economic detenorabon of the region, it is (fng/tsh] lust and proper to set up rubber based in- forth.fourth report dustnes or tyre factory In Kanyakumari dis- THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY tnct I request the Government to take ear- AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND liest steps In thiS regard. CIVil SUPPLIES (SHRI H.t'I l BHAGAT) I (ii) Need to reduce the air fare by beg to move: Air India in Gulf Sector "That this House do agree with the Forty-fourth Report of the Business ~HRI V.S VIjAYARAGHAVAN (Palghat)*: AdvIsory Committee presented to There are complaints that Air India IS the House on the 23rd November, charging a higher fare from the Gulf 1987 " passengers It IS said that thiS fare IS much higher than that IS bemg charged by other MR DEPUlY-SPEAKER The question airlines In thiS sector For Instance, Air India IS -- IS chargll1g 980 nyals from Bombay to "That this House do agree with the Doha, whereas from Doha to Bombay the Forty-fourth Report of the Busaness fare IS 1588 nyal That means a difference AdvIsory Committee presented to the of 608 nya' for the same distance It may be House on the 23rd November, 1987 " noted In thiS connection that a Gulf based The motion was adopted airline charges only 973 Qatar Riyal from Doha to Bombay It IS also said that Air In- 12.21 hrs. dia Increases as well as reduces fare MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 according to seasons (i) Need to set up rubber based indus. The Gulf passengers have SIrong tries in Kanyakumari. teellngs against the high fare bemg cahrged SHRI N DENNIS (Nagercoll) Kanya- by Air I ndla Most of these passengers are kuman District IS a very SUitable and 10\\ paid wor"-ers appropnate place In the country for establishment of rubber based mdustnes or rub- Pakistan Airlines has reduced the fare ber factory Per Unit production of rubber on Pak Gult sector many times 111 respose to the representations trom Pakistani here IS the highest In our country and quah- tatlvely also It occupies the highest place It passengers But Air Indla has not so far taken a fa\ourable stand on thiS Issue occupies the second place In terms of the total quantity of production of rubber--next I theretore, request the Government to only to Kerala Kanyakuman IS classltled as take Immediate steps to reduce the tare In an mdustnally backward dlstnct and high the Gulf sector ' hopes are aroused among the people by (iii) Demand for providing assistance thiS classification But now they are disap- for desi'ting Chilka lake of pOinted when they experience tor long that Orissa and developing it as a thiS acknowledgf'ment of backwardness IS tourist centre. on paper only and IS not translated Into action by establishment ot mdustnes It IS re- SHRI BRAjAMOHAN MOHANTY (Puri): grettable that not even a single mdustry ei- Chllka lake In Onssa had outlets IOta Bay ther 1'1 the public sector or In the pnvate of Bengal But these outlets have been Sector has been established there The pel- Silted up As a result fishing potenttahty of Chll~ centage of literacy here IS high The 111- Lake has been affected and flood creasmg high number of educated and un- water IS not discharged Into sea qUICkly educated unemployed both men and ThiS has caused flood havoc In that area. women have reached a pomt ot grave con- The place around Chll~ Lake has been en- cern The encouragement and patronage croached and process at encroachment IS extended to some other backward areas IS Increasmg ThiS has affected natural beauty not being extended to thiS distant south- of Chllka lake

• The speech was Originally dehvered In f am" 327 Matters Under Rule 377 I'.'OVEMBER 24, 1987 Matters under Rule 377 328

[Shri 8rajamohan Mohanty] and Central assistance should be reviewed. The State of Orissa will need more funds to Financial assistance may, therefore, be meet the situation. provided to desilt and develop this area as a tourist centre. (vi) Need to sanction special ad hoc grants for the development of (iv) Need to fill up all the vacancit$ Konkan region of Maharashtra reserved for. Ex-servicemen particularly in B.S.F. by amending rules suitably SHRI HUSSAIN DA lWA I (Ratnagiri): Sir, Konkan is a neglected backward coastal SHRI AJAY MUSHRAN (Jabalpur): The region right from the days of what was Central and State Government have known as the Bombay Presidency. When reserved vacancies for the resettlement of the new linguistic State of Maharashtra was ex-servicemen in various sectors. However, formed in 1960, part of Madhya Pradesh Government departments are not known as Vidarbha region and part of implementing Government instructions in fomler Hyderabad State known as Marath- regard to utilisation of these reserved wada region were added to Maharashtra. vacancies and a large number of the At the time of reorganisation of the State of vacancies are permitted to lapse. As a Maharashtra, Nagpur pact was Signed, III result a large nt..lmber out of the 60,000 de- which an undertakltlg was given by the fence personnel retiring every year are Government to the people of those h\'o unable to find alternative employment. newly added regions to the effect that they would be given economIC backlog for their For example, over 1500 vacancies in the development so as to bnng their Border Security Force lapsed last year development on par With the rest of the because of a rule which requires an ex- State. serviceman to be inducted into the Border Security Force before two years of his Though Konkan was more backward retirement. The selection procedures of and economically neglected region of the Border Security force are long and often original Bombay Province, no reference take over a year, thus making it impossible was made about It in the Nagpur Pact. for retiring personnel to join the Border When the Konkan Vikas panshad held Its SeCUrity Force within two years of first conference in Bombay to agitate the retirement. gross neglect of Konkan region, the then Chief Mimster gave an ad hoc grant at Rs. It is of urgent public importance that one crore for the development ot the vacancies reserved for ex-servicemen are region. This token grant was too properly utilised and the rules regarding re- inadequate to meet the huge requirement employment in the Border Security Force in of the backward region. particular are suitably amended to so that vacancies reserved for ex-servicemen are 1 ~'day, looking to huge backlog of utilised in time by them disparity in development of thi5> backward (v) Demand for more Central region and the other advanced areas, a assistance to Orissa in view of minimum ad hoc grant of Rs. 1,500 crores recent damage by cyclone and is required for the development of this rains region in order to bring the development of SHRI JAGANNATH 'PA1TN~lK Konkan region on par With the rest of (-'alahandi): Sir while the State of Orissa., Maharashtra. unlike many' gther ~arts of the country, is under the trip of severe drought, th~ As our Prime Minister has been recent untimely rain and cyclone has .pel"!.onally taking keen Interest In removal caused severe damage to the Rabi crops. of economic disparities of various States and regions, the people of Konkan region Taking the latest situation in view, the have, in their development conference, entire planning for 'anti-drought' measures unanimously demanded an ad hoc grant of 329 Matter Under Rule 377 ACRAHAYANA 3,1909 (SAKA) Constitution 330 (56th Arndt.) BiI! Rs. 1,500 crores for removal of their The most practical work that can be done developmental disparities. The by the Central government is to dig the Covernroent of India should sanction such river bed of Brahmputra which will no special ad hoc grants for development of doubt involve great expenditure so that the very neglected backward region of Konkan water of the tributaries can be absorbed by in its next financial budget. the river itself. (vii) Need to convert the existing unmanned railway crossing gate If the Gerukamukh Project is completed at Jatlakanupur village in soon, than the flood will be controlled to Nellore district of Andhra some extent and it will also contribute to Pradesh into a manned level sufficient power supply to the people of crossing Assam. SHRI P. PENCHALUAH (Nellore): Mr. So, I earnestly request the Central Deputy Speaker, Sir, the village Government to allot a huge amount of Jatlakanupur in Manubale Mandalam, Nel- finance and provide expert manpower to lore District, Andhra Pradesh is situated on relieve the people of Assam from regular western side of the railway track and the flood havoc year after year. C.N.T. Road. There are several villages with several institutions located on western side 12.30 hrs. of the railway track and the C.N.T. Road. CONSTITUTION(R FlY -.SIXTH The people who are coming from the AMEN DMENT) Bill above-said village, have to cross the unmanned level crossing for everything, [English] like getting essential commodities, chemicals, fertilizers and other daily necessities of life. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: We will now take up the next item, that js, Item No. 11, At present, there is no safety to the regan:ling the Bill further to amend ~he people at the time of crossing the gate and Constitution of India. The time allotted for also several aCCidents have taken place at this item by the Business Advisory Com- the existing gate. mittee is two hours. The discussion will close at 3.30 P.M. and the Minister will Hence, I request the hon. Railway reply after that. I would therefore request Minister to convert the existing gate into a the hon. Members to be brief in their manned level crossing gate, so as to submissions. Now, Mr. Chintamani provide safety to hfe and transportation. Panigrahi to more the Bill. (viii) Need to complete the Gerukamukh Project to control THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE floods and supply power to MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI Assam CHINTAMANI PANICRAHI): I beg to move: SH RI GO KU l SAl KIA (lakhimpur): Sir, the unprecedented flood in Assam has "That the Bill further to amend the greatly affected human life, cattle and Constitution of India, be taken into

crops. No doubt, Central Government has consideration. It released funds to some extent for relief, and the State government machineries Sir, the Constitution is the fundamental have also been engaged in flood relief source of the polity of any country and programmes, but the relief has been provides basic features of its administration inadequate. in accordance with the hopes and aspirations of the people. We have In my opinion, the river bed level of adopted our Constitution with the lofty Brahmaputra is becoming high gradually. objectives of strengthening the unity and 331 ConstItiltion NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution 332 (56th AIndtJ Bill (56th Arndt.) Bill [Shri Chintamani Panigrahi] same will be deemed to be the authoritative text of the Constitution of integrity of the country and promoting Hin~. The authoritative text of subsequent equality and fraternity among its people. amendments in the Constitution will also be published in Hindi in the same manner. Due to historical compulsions our This will encourage use of Hindi in the Constitution was adopted in English. Our Courts where it has been permitted. It will Constitution has declared Hindi as the not affect the interest of the non·Hindi Official Language of the Union. At present, speaking people as the authorised text of there is no provision in the ~

The High Courts situated in four States, MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Motion moved. namely, Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Bihar and Rajasthan have been pennitted "That the Bill further to amend the to use Hindi in addition to English in their Constitution of India be taken into proceedings and judgements, orders, consideration. " decrees etc. Hindi is normally used in the subordinate Courts in Hindi speaking States. Many Universities in Hindi speaking SHRI K. RM-\ACHANDRA REDDY areas are imparting legal education through (Hindupur): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, Hindi medium. Difficulties are being faced through this Continuation (Amendment) in these spheres due to non-availability of Bill which is brought forward before the an authoritative text of the Constitution in House, some facilities are sought to be Hindi. There has, therefore, been demand created for those people in areas where fot quite some time that authoritative text Hindi is the language of the masses. Even of the constitution in Hindi should be though the text has been prepared as long made available. The present amendment back as in 1950, no effort has been made will help to satisfy this demand. to convert it into an authoritative translation, to give it a legal sanction. In Hindi After the Bill is passed the translation in speaking states, unauthorised Hindi Hindi of the Constitution alongwith its up .. translation has been relied upon on which to-date amendments will be got published the courts have been made to refer to the in the Official Gazette under the authority Constitution. Even though the text has of the President as early as possible. The been approved in 1950 by the 333 Constitution ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAIV\) Constitution 33 (56th Arndt.) Bill (56th Arndt.) 8,/1

Constituency Assembly, In the past 37 faced by the Hindi speakmg people'1 ThiS years, thiS IS for the first time, an effort has shows that the Government IS trying to been made by thiS government to provide treat people of the Handl speaking States at an authontatlve translation of the a different par and conSider the other Constitution In Hindi It IS better late than national languages which are In no way never At least, they have now comp mfenorf::1 can even say, they are supenor forward with thiS translation and I to Hindi In so many respects~to be appreciate the government move, even neglected Why do you think that these though, It .s late languages have to be neglected? I would have been very happy If the Government, But, here at the same time, I would hke while commg forward with thiS Bill, have to warn the government that such Included not only H mdl but also all those piecemeal legislation caters only to 14 or 15 languages 10 the VIII Schedule piecemeal sections of people hVlng In the What prevents the government 10 dOing Hindi speaking States and It does not take so'1 Why are you treatlOg regional care of the other languages of the country languages with such a b,as'1 By dOing thiS, ThiS IS a country where many languages are do you think that you are helping the cause there In the VIII Schedule of thel of Hmdl? I would lake to warn thiS constitution, 14 languages have been I Government that by showang par.ochlal Included. They are the languages which Interest to Indaa and shOWing step- are In no way anfenor to H Ind. They are motherly attitude towards reglonal lan- languages which have got nch hentage, guages, you are not espousing the cause of very good literary content and very sweet Hindi at all You are, In fact, rumlng the languages When such languages are there, cause of H mdl In the mmds of the what IS the fun of Introducmg a Bill which non-Hind, speaking people. An ImpressIOn seeks to give authonsed translation only In IS bemg created that you are trymg to Hindi? Why are you neglecting other thrust Hindi on them by force languages? The MInister says, Hind. speaking States are facmg difficulties as far You are glvmg room for thas kmd of fear as reference made to the Constitution IS among non-Hindi speakmg people It IS for concerned It IS well and good and , do the H mdi-speaking people to come appreciate the difficulty But why do you torward and see that such fears are think that the other regional languages--m removed You are not attemptmg to the south, Telugu, Tanul, Malayalam and remove such fears That IS why It IS not Kannada are spoken, In the West, Marathl good for thiS country Even though the and GUJarathl are spoken and an the East, languages are different, the hentage of the Onya and Bengali are spoken --should be whole country IS one and same We are .all neglected? These languages are an no way Indians We speak different languages But Infenor to Hindi In every aspect of the you can see that the people who speak language They are very old Janguages other languages also feel that the) have They have got nch hterary contents also beel. neglected They teel that they have When such IS the case, why are you not been treated on par With those neglecting It? When people m those areas speal...mg H mdl Unless you create that and the courts there want to refer to the kand ot atmosphere where the fears of all offiCial text of the Constitution, you say, people are removed, I do not thing you Will there would not be any difficulty for them be able to safeguard the Integnty of thiS because English version of the Constitution country well By not rem')vmg the fears and IS there and therefore, they can refer to by follOWing such a method, you Will do Englash copy ThiS IS a very pecuhar harm even to the Integnty of the country argument which , am not able to understand and also Its logiC If It IS so, In I would request the hon Mlmster to the non-Hindi speaking States also, those come forward With amendment not only people need not face any difficulty an With authontatlve text m Hindi but also refemng to the Englash version of the authOritative texts III all regional languages Constitution What IS the difficulty bemg as mentIoned In Eighth Schedule ot t~ 335 Constitution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constltution . 336 (56th Arndt.) Bill (S6th Arndt.) Bill [Shri K. Ramachandra Reddy] were 282--four more than the signatories to English text. In spite of this, even aft~r constitution and to remove the tears that 40 years of Independence, we find that are lurking in the minds of the people of only English text of the Constitution is different regions. accepted as authoritative in the courts. Hindi text is not accepted authoritative on I would request the hon. Minister to the plea that amendments made in the come forward with this amendment to constitution by the Lok Sabha ever since it satisfy all the people who reside in India was passed by the Constituent Assembly, and who speak different languages. are· not valid until the Lok Sabha putS its stamp on th~m and accepts them? part of With these words I support this Bill. the constitution. I thi"k, today, the Government of India is going to remove (Translation] that lacuna which it should have done 37 to 38 years ago. SHRI NARESH CHANDRA CHATURVEDI (Kanpur): Mr. Deputy (hapter 17 of the constitution clearly Speaker, Sir, by bringing forward this 56th states that H i.,di in Devanagari script, shall constitution (Amendment) Bill in the be the official language of India. In spite of House, the Govemment has fulfilled that this, if there is no authoritative text of the need of the nation which should have been constitution of India in the official fulfilled 38 years ago. Just now, when the language, there cannot be a bigger hon. Member Shri Reddy raised some mockery than thiS. I think, It will not be points dunng tille course of hiS speech, I proper if Instead of paying attention to it, felt that we have no differences in an Issue is raised that authoritative text principle, but what is needed here is should be made available in all the Indian somethang else. Therefore, it was not languages. There cannot be any objection appropriate to raise the question of the to making the authontatlve text of the Indian languases mentioned in the Eighth constitution In all the I ndlan languages Schedule when the question of the because all languages spoken 10 India are authoritative text of the constitution in the our own languages. All these languages are official language was presented. We should either our mother tongues or are national know that when authoritative text of· the languages and will always continu~ to Constitution in English was prepared occupy the same position. Being a humble amidst 299 Members of the Constituent servant of Hindi and being a writer, I will Assembly, it was signed by 278 Members of reiterate that all Indian languages are rich the Constituent Assembly and when its and Hindi writers and readers learn a lot Hind. text was prepared. 282 Membe~ of from these languages and Hindi also the Constituent Assembly signed it. Thus contributes in its own way towards other the number of signatories to the Hind. text languages. Nowhere there is a question of was four more than for the English text and clash. Therefore, there seems to be no they included leaders, learned pers~ns reason to repeatedly raise the question of from all over the country and the Members Eighth Schedule of the Constitution, when of the Constituent Assembly. Today, even' the matter regarding authoritative text of after SS Constitutional amendments, the Constitution, in official language Hindi is Hindi text, which should have come into being discussed and to say that effect from 26th January, 1950, is not authoritative-text in other languages should accepted as authoritative on some also be presented simultaneously. I think, technical grounds although the constituent we must chinge this mentality. The major Assembly had, in a way, passed it. Tbe change which we should seek at this stage Hindi-text was passed in the same way the should be to remove English completely English text was passed. Both the versions from the country and to restore. the Indian were authOritatively passed and Signed by langu~es. Hindi, Bangia; Gujarati, Tamil, the Constituent Assembly Simultaneously. TelugU-a11 these languages should be given Not only this, the signatories to Hindi text their due place. But this is possible only 337 Constitution AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (.WV\) Constitution 338 (56th Arndt.) Bill (56th Arndt) Bill when we use these lansuages wittr a [Tl'lns/adon) feeling of affection and goodwill and thereby mcrease their capacity. Therefore, ShRi JAGAN NATH kAtiSHAl; Agree my only request IS that there IS no need to ing to the request of my friend, I would raise any such Issue at this pOint of time now speak in Hindi. and we must stop uSing the terms 'Imposing' or 'thrusting' In the course of [English] our speeches. I would like to make an humble submiSSion that those who speak SHRI SOMNATH CHAlTERJEE: It is very Hindi or whose mother tongue In Hindi Important. I will refer to it. have a heart too and It beats It IS not that only non-Hindi speaking people's heart [Translation] beats. Before we use such words, we must realise that Hindi IS our own language and SHRI JAGAN NATH KAUSHAl: The when we make any such diSCrimination credit for this Bill goes to Government of With It, we cause harm to the national Unity India of which I would also like to share a and integrity and also to national goodwill. little bit. I would like to remind the House Therefore, whatever language we speak, that I had the good fortune to be the Law we must stop using the words 'Imposing' Minister of the country and at that time this of 'thrusting' against any language. Only matter was raISed vociferously. At that them the Unity of this country can be time, the hon. Members and espeCially the malntamed Otherwise, It would not help If Hon. Speaker had ...... one nses against the other and that other nses against another The saYing-better late [English] than neverflts well here The government of Ind.a IS gOIOg to do It after 38 years For SHRI P KOLANDAIVELU: He has thiS I congratulate them studied law only In English, not In Hindi.

I would hke to congratualate all my [TranslatIon 1 fnends, Members and all persons speaklllg various languages that It IS a matter of great SHRI JAGAN NATH KAUSHAL: Despite happiness for our country when 56th that I can speak Hindi and wnte 10 Hindi amendment IS being made of the Indian and I would like to tell you that in BA I constitution. The Government of India has had studied Sansknt as a compulsory prOVided a good opportUnity when all subject and I had passE'rt it. persons speaking different Indian languages, the founding fathers of Indian [EngiJsh] constitution, people lovmg Indian constitution and every Citizen of Indla can SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: You feel proud of the very good step that t~e have forgotten everything now! central government has taken and I would like to express my thanks to the [TranslatIon] Government for this. SHRI JAGAN NATH KAUSHAl: I have forgotten It now, because in my company [English] of fnends every one speaks English. So far as Hindi IS concerned, I would like to tell SHRI JAGAN NATH KAUSHAl you one more thing. When I was (Chandigarh): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I apPOInted the Governor of Bihar, during rise to (.ongrat\.alate the government for my entIre tenure there I spoke only in branglng thIS Amendment Bill before thiS Hindi there. On many occasions when House. there was any function in High Court or at any other place, people used to bring SHRI SOMNATH CHAITERjEE (Bolpur): speeches written In English, but I always Sir, he is speaking an English. used t~ speak in Hindi. So far as Hindi is 339 Constitution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution 340 (56th NndtJ "' (56th Arndt.) Bill {Shri Jagan Nath Kaushan constitution was being adopted in English. It is absolutely correct that the Constituent concemed, I can say It with 5Urity, that our Assembly had passed a Resolution at that friends are not against Hindi. I want to time that the President should take repeat it again and again that in addition to necessary steps so that Hindi version may Hindi there should be development cf also be recognised as authoritative text. Its other languages also. We also do not have translation was adopted by the Members of any objection to it. As I had said, , would the Constituent Assembly, but the courts like to remind you: ••• ruled that It IS not authontative t~xt. With a view to remove that lacuna, now SHRI EBRAHIM SUlAlMAN SAlT authoritative text has been prepared. I (Manjeri): Your speech contains less Hindi would like to bnng the wording of the and more of Urdu. amendment to your notice, which IS as follows: SHRI JAGAN NATH KAUSHAl: My speech is in Hindustani in the real sense. It [English] contains Hindi as well as Urdu. "The translation of this constitution and SHRI EBRAHIM SUlAlMAN SAlT: This is of every amendment thereof published what Gandhi~ also wanted. under thiS Article shall be deemed to be, for all purposes, the authoritative text SHRI JAGAN NATH KAUSHAl: What I thereof to the Hindi language." speak is really Hindustani. You may call it Hindi or Urdu, but it IS a mixture of both. [Translation] (English] Now thas has become the authontatlYe SHRI SOMNATH CHATIERJEE: The text. Minister cannot speak in Hendi. So far as the question raised by some (Translation) colleagues is concerned that It should be· translated in all lhe remaining languag~ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE also, I would like to tell you, perhaps my MINISTRY OF HOMf AFFAIRS (SHRI friends and Shri Chatterjee might be aware CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI): I have spoken that the constitution is being translated in in Hindi •....•• (lnterruptions) all the languages and if I correctly recollect, it has already been translated in 9 or 10 SHRI JAGAN NATH KAUSHAl: I would languages. like to remind you once again that the hone Speaker had specially said that it is the duty [English] of the law Minister to make efforts to remove those lacunae which had rematned SHR,. P KOlANDAIVElU: But not there due to the Intention of the authotitative Constituent Assembly having been not fulfilled. I had assured at that time that If SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS (Mavelikiara): there was any legal obstacle, efforts would It has to be given the official seal. be made to do away with it. We went through it and after that, the matter was referred to the Attorney General of India. (Trans/ation] The Attomey general of India opined that there was no objection in amending the SHRI JAGAN NATH KAUSHAl: That IS Constitution. This Bill has been drafted why I want to say that you have forgotten according to hIS advice. I think that Shri the background. Background IS that the Chaturvedi has correctly sa.d that this thing Constituent Auembly had passed thiS should have been done when the Resolution that-· 341 Constitution ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Constitution 342 (56th Arndt.) Bill (56th Arndt.) Bill [English] [Translation]

The translation was prepared in SH RI JAGAN NATH KAUSHAl: I would pursuance of the Resolution adopted by like to read to you the note to which my the Constituent Assembly authorising the learned friend has objected. President to take necessary steps to hdve a translation of the Constitution prepared in [English) Hindi. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: That is [Translation] why, if it is a whip, have you sent a whip?

I had started my speech from this point. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE I n pursuance of the Resolution passed by MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AfFAIRS the Constituent Assembly the Constitution (SHRIMATI SHEIlA DIKSHIT): I have not was translated at that time. But now to say sent a whip. I have not sent a note to him. that the translation of the Constitution in Even if I have sent, why do you have that all the remaining languages may be bent of mind? recognised as authoritative is a totally different thing. It has nothing to do with [Translation 1 this Bill. I want to emphasise one thing again and again that the Resolution of the SH RI JAGAN NATH KAUSHAL: I do not Constituent Assembly is being translated want to enter into any Controversy but it is into action and we have introduced it as an written in this note that the Constitution authoritative text in Parliament and has been translated in 12 languages. I amended the Constitution. would like to teU Mr. Chatterjee that I had the impression that it has been translated I would like to submit that the in 9 or 10 languages. (Interruptions) It has assurance which I had given as LAw been translated in Bengali. (Interruptions) It Minister is being fulfilled by Shri Panigrahi has been translated in Urdu. It has also now. I would like to congratulate him. As a been translated in Tamil. matter of fact, he has removed this deficiency which should have been removed long back. The question of other , . languages is a separate issue and it can be So far as the question of whip is con- considered separately. But. .... cemed, , do not want· to enter into this controversy, because I am already a disci: [English] plined soldier of Congress.

SHRI SOMNATH CHAlTERJEE: Which SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (Bankura): Congress? Why separate whe.n all are recognised languages. 5H RI JAGAN NATH KAUSHAl: There is only one Congress and there is no other SHRI SOMNATH CHATIERJEE: I have a Congress. point of order. Did Hon. Member receive a whip? 50 far as this Bill is concerned, I think that the question of any controversy in this SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: Then it will Bill does not arise at all. All of us should amount to privilege. express our thanks to the Government of India for this Bill. The absence of SHRI SOMNATH CHATIERjEE: A note authoritative text in Hindi was a great was given to him. Is it a whip? And when defiCiency which has now been removed. the matter is pending consideration of the (English) Hon. Speaker, how can another whip be SHRI SOMNATH CHAITERJEE: Sir, it is ' sent? It is most objectionable. going to be 1 O'clock; 343 Constitution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution ' 344 (56th Arndt) Bill (56th Ivndt.) Bill MR DE PUlY-SPEAKER: You express CONSTITUTION (FIFlY-s.lnH some views for two minutes. AMENDMENn Bill --Contd.

. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Mr. [English] Deputy-Speaker, Sir, Mr. Jagannath Kaushal for whom I have high regard, he has lost MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Shri Somnath his ministership because of his ability. Sir, I Chatterjee may continue with his speech. make it categorically clear that I have nothing against Hindi. This beautiful SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE language is brought into controversy by (Bolpur): Mr. Ueputy Speaker, Sir, under Hindi chauvinists like some of our Hon. Article 343 of the Constitution the official friends here. But, Sir, I was very interested language of the Union shall be Hindi in to hear the Hon, Minister in his prefatory Devanagari script. remarks saying, "this is a gift to the people of this country in the 40th year of Then sub-Article (2) says: independence. " "Notwithstanding anything in clause (1), 13.00 hrs. for a period of fifteen ye¥§ from the commencement of this Constitution, the .. A gift of a Hindi translation to be made English language shall continue to be used by persons unknown, in a manner yet to be for all the official purposes of the Union for decided; Who are these people? The which it was being used immediately wonderful perfonnance of this Government before such commencement." for forty years is that although the Congress with prefixes and suffixes seems When did these fifteen years expire? to be the same according 'to Mr. What steps have been taken for the KaushaI--S4% of the people are still purpose of implementing Article 3",3 of the illiterates. Wherther you make it in Hindi or Constitution and sub-Article (2). Urdu or Arabic or Parsi or Oriya, these people will not know what the The Government of I ndia has agreed to Constitution of the country means to them, black out Hindi news item from the Madras what are its provisions--whether there is lV. Why? Because you want to placate your any thing called fundamental rights-they allies. Is this in keeping with the provisions do not know. They are the victims of the of the Constitution and keeping with the mismanagement that is committed in the Spirit of the Constitution? name of applying the Constitutional provisions of this countly. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI: It will hit us both ways. Therefore, all these tall talks make no relevance so far as we are concerned. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: No, I want to show that this Government even MR DEPUlY SPEAKER: The Hon. cannot do correct things at a proper time Member will continue after lunch. We shall with a proper attitude and spirit. Only very now adjourn for lunch to meet at 2 p. m. base political considerations outweigh everything. Now they will compromise in Tamil Nadu so far as Hindi is concerned. 13.01 In. The Minister here today is talking of a The Lok Sabha adjourned for Lunch till gift to the people of this country and I have Fourteen of the dock. reminded the Hon'ble House of the extent of illiteracy. Article 343 is not even properly The !ok Sabha reassembled after Lunch implemented. Now gift to whom? Gift to at three minutes past fourteen of the Oock Nagaland? Is it gift to the people of Tamil Nadu? Is it a gift to the people of Orissa (MR. DEPUlY SPfAKfR in the Chair.] even? Gift to which people 1 345 Constitution AGRAHAYANA3, 1909 (SAJG.\) Constitution 346 (56th Arndt) Bill (56th Arndt.) Bill AN HON. MEMBER: To West Bengal. That's why in your ~tate,Slr you are fighting SHRI BIPIN PAL DAS (Tezpur): Hindi against the imposition of Hindi. Why? people are one. Because it will interfere with the SHRI SOMNATH CHAITERJEE: At least, development of your own language. first of all, make people literate. This is a tragedy of this country. We talk of our What is the attitude of this Government Constitution. The "-'tinister reminded us: towards development of language? Nepali This is the organic law of the q)untry. But language, we have been demanding in this millions of people of this country do not House from 1970's. At least I know from know what is ~onta;ned in the constitution the 5th lok Sabha. We have been of India. They don't know of their demanding amendment to the fundamental rights. They don't know of the Constitution. Bills have been brought in obligations of the Covemment towards the here and resolutely rejected by this people of this country. That's why a spirit Government on the ground that of oneness is not only not developing, development of language will give rise to divisive tendencies. there are greater and greater divisions and disparities amongst the people. Now, what is this Government doing? I Now what is the attitude of this don't know how far our very good friend, Government towards different languages? Mr. Chintamani Panigrahi, in the Home Everybody will speak of: well, all the Ministry being allowed to operate. languages are entitled to similar treatment. Minister will also say that in his reply. I What is the situation today? Today the believe he has already his written reply Central Government is also agreeing to ready. It must have been prepared already. include Nepalese in the Eighth Schedule of the Constitition of India. from the vel)' MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: He anticipates beginning, let there be no what you are going to present. misunderstanding, I am not against this Bill. I support this Bill. let there be a SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: No,no, proper authenticated translation of the like Shri Vengal Rao yesterday whatever we Constitution of India but should there not said, he gave a prepared reply. be similar treatment, similar attitude towards other languages also? In how MR. DEPUl)' SPEAKER: They know what many High Courts can this translation be you are going to ask. Therefore, they produced? Except in North India, only in prepare it. Both sides are like that. four High Courts as the Minister has mentioned. I want to know whether in SHRI SOMNATH CHATIERJEE: Very these four High Courts, the judgements are good; if that is the credit you want to give delivered in Hindi. As far as I know, one or to us, very well. two Judges have done so. If the Minister has got better knowledge, I will stand SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI: We corrected. What will happen to the people understand Somnath Babu ... of other states? Should not the Bengali, the SHRI SOMNATH CHATIERJEE: What is Tamilian, the Andhra read and team the the importance of a language in people's Constitution in his own mother tongue? 'tfe? This ls the method of expression of Not a word has been said about it. We talk one's feelings, urges and aspirations. Its of unity 10 diversity. We talk of IndiaA culture is represented by the languages. culture, syntheSIS ot different cultures and That's why our constitution has consciously ethos. I do not know why this Bill has been incorporated a Schedule, called the Eighth brought suddenly. What is the sense of Schedule, where certain languages have priority so far as the Government is been incorporated so that they may be concerned? I want to know from the developed. You cannot do away with the Minister the budget for the translation of aspiations of the people. You cannot the Constitution. How much will it cost throttle them by throttling their language. and how long wiD it take? What is th 347 Constitution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution 348 (56th Arndt.) 8i/1 (56th Arndt.) 8i/1 (Shri Somnath Chatterjee] with language and do not play with the Constitution. You have played fifty six procedure to be adopted? The power is times. Only some of them are good given to the Government. In the name of amendments which we have all supported, the President, the Government will have like the abolition of privy purses, abolition that power. will the cost involved be of zamindari, first amendment, second disclosed? Who will be your translators? amendment etc. Those were during the What are the gUidelines laid down in the Nehru dar, whose ideas and whose Constitution for selection of translators? outlook was total anathema. Our president, for whom we have the highest respect, makes valiant attempt in AN HON. MEMBER: What about Bank public functions which we all admire. nationalization 1

Therefore, if Shri Chintamani Panigrahi SHRI SOMNATH CHAITERJEE: That has got the freedom of action will select was in the early days when there was them or somebody else will select. There is hangover of the Nehru days. no procedure laid down for selection and no examination. Somebody will say that As I was submitting you should not play this is the translation like how the ga'l'e of with the language and with the tennis was translated as ghas pur gend Constitution of this country. Do not utilize pata pat. I do not know what sort of thiS Constitution and the amending translation will come out of thiS. Even the procedure for the purpose of supporting great learned person Shri Jaganath Kaushal, your hopeless cause in the next elections. inspite of very serious efforts, could not help usang Urdu, English and other If you are so much concerned that the languages while speaking. The litterateur, people of this country should know what Shri Chaturvedi also uses English in his the Constitution contains, not a surrender Hindi speech. These are matters which are to Hindi chauvinism, you want to not even thought of. So far as the priority is propagate the constitutional provisions concerned and the way the Government is among the people of this country, you functioning they will go no with the must know that majority of the people here translation until the election in North India do not speak Hindi and, therefore, you comes. This is only my assumption. Then must make a commitment that you would they will say, "See how this Government is make authorised, translations available in considerate about hindi-speaking people, all the languages. You owe an obligation to hindi heart land has produced the largest the people of the country as a whole The number of MPs. Therefore, here is my very fact that even after forty years of concern for your language and here is the independence, Hind. has not become the translation. "Shri Kolandaivelu, although, sole official language of this country shows will oppose this but ultimately he will that this Government is not sincere except capitulate--I hope he will not. They have for the purpose of consumption by a given up hopes of the South, of the East particular section of the pE'ople at a and the North-East and their only hope is particular point of time. Hindi heartland--that only remains. When I interrupted my very esteemed friend, Shri Jagannath Kau~hal, it was to show the hollowness, utter unreality of the AN HON. MEMBER: What about Naga- situation that he had to stand up and speak land? in English on a Bill for Hindi translation. It was not flippancy, I wanted to show the SHkl SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: unreality of the situation. He then switched Nagaland is an exception because of the over to mixed Hindustani, not· Hindi. ACP blockade, otherwise you would not Therefore, this commitment should be have sot that. I do not wish to take more made. The Govemm"ent should feel time cI the House. I only say-do not play ashamed they do not feel ashamed, they 349 Constitution ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAJG.t\) Constitation 350 (56th Arndt.) Bill (56th Arndt.) Bill should feel concerned--that after forty six present Bill. After so many years of years, 64 per cent of our people are independence and adopting of our illiterate and 7-6 per cent of the women are Constitution an amendment is being ma~ still illiterate. Shiela Dikshit Ji, you are one not to bring out an authoritative traoslation of fhe few fortunates. I do not envy you; I of the Constitution, when a Hindi version want that everybody should be like you of the Constitution had been accepted by except politically. the Constituent A,"semb~y itself and on which all the hon. Members of the Therefore, these distortions in our Constituent Assembly had signed but that politics should be removed. You have kept has not been considered to be the people in utter darkness. You are authoriytive so far and only the English experimenting with, the Navodya Vidyalyas . version has been accepted as the authorita- as a result of which lesser and lesser tive version. number of students will have the opportunity to get good education in this country. There is no proper spread of education and literacy. There is no policy of Not to talk of other things, I agree with providing employment to large number of hon. Shri Chatterjee that Article 343 of the people which according to me should have Constitution is not enforceable on the Con- been the first priority. I would like to ask stitution itself. According to that Article, the the Minister as to how much money you official language shall be Hindi and for a are going to spend on this? The factories period of 15 years and the Enghsh language are closing down for want of money. shall continue to be used for all the offidal Yesterday, one Hon. Member, the former purposes. 15 years have passed to:,,;; ~g0 Industry Minister was shouting In agony for .and many changes have taken place sm..:e Rs. 13 crores. A big unit manufacturing then. Our Constitution framers hat: boilers cannot run as Rs 13 crores are not declared Hindi as the official language in available with the Central Government. one voice and at that time there was not Factory after factory is closing down. any debate on that issue neither in Tamil Unemployment is increasing. Illiteracy is Nadu nor in any other Part of the country. increasing. Here you come solemnly and Had Hindi been granted the status which it say that you will give a gift, a charity to the deserved at that time, and had the, people of this country. After 40 years you importance of English been reduced and are giving them a Hindi translation which greater emphasis placed on Hindi, I think either nobody wiJJ read or wiJJ not the ~tate of 3ffairs would have been much Jnderstand. But you want to satisfy yourself better. The problem arose because in spite and give a pat on the back. This double, of the provision in the Constitution, Hindi tripple standards will not do. If you are has not been given the status of National serious about the development of language language. We continued to consider than the people of this country should be English as the National language and used made literate and all languages should be it for all purposes. I am ashamed to say allowed to flourish. The development that even after so many years of indepen- should be of all the languages. That dence, the importance of English has not commitment should be there. Otherwise I declined, rather it has enhanced. Who have do not know when they have selected been suffering the losses? The common Article 394 (a). It will just mean the another people of this country have been the print of the Book, 'Constitution'. new sufferers. Today the numbers of English volume will have to be brought out but medium schools are increasing at a rapid people will not be benefited by it pace. Th~ strongest supporters of English are sending their children to English [Translation 1 medium schools. Why are they doing so? 90 percent people of this country are far SHRI ZAINUl BASHER (Ghazipur): Mr away from this labyrinthine affair. Today, Deputy Speaker, Sir, the saying' it is better English language is the sign of prosperity. It to be late than never' applies to the symbolises knowledge, intelligence and 351 Constitution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution 352 (56th Nndt.) Bill (56th Arndt.) Bill (Shri laird Basher] [English)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: That is deverness ....(lnterruptions) ... It is true~ that for Hindi cinema. English language is the symbol of bondage. [Trandation]

Again, how do we use the English SHRI ZAINUl BASHER: Hindi cinema language? We Indians are making mockery too has not played a lesser role. You might of even the I:nglish language. I want to say also be going to see Hindi films and that if some Englishman was to hear the people, of course, go to seen them. proceedings in the House he would be aghast to hear the way English is spoken~ Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, Shri here. Anyon~ with a sound knowledge of KolandJvelu will say that Hindi is a English would know as to how thiS grammariess language. That is what makes language is spoken in the House. I don't it a special language. I feel very happy want to name any person as I am myself when hon. Members form Gujarat, not an authority on English but ~ can Maharashtra, Orissa, Andhra Pradesh and certainty understand as to how far English other states make speeches in Hindi. The is correctly spoken in the House. Today, in fact that Hindi lacks grammar has become offices, the officers speak English. The a blessing irr disguise because it can serve language used by every business organi- as a good link language as a result thereof. sation is also English. At the airports of the The language used in literature can n~er country, English is used. In the first class serve the purpose of becoming a link and Airconditioned coaches of our trains, language, it is the spoken language that people communicate in English. In the becomes a link language. literary language remaining areas Englash language is not can never serve the purpose of becoming a used anywhere. You mayor may not agree link language.... (Interruptions).... This but the reality is that Hindi has become the language will gradually absorb words from link language without the support of the all other languages like English, Bengali, Government. So fdr as the common people Telugu and Tamil, and only then will it be- are concerned, Hindi has become the link come a link language of this country. When language regardless of whether words from all languages get absorbed into Government gives it recognition or not. Hindi then it will serve as a vast link lan- You may go to Bangalore, Trival1drum, guage. But Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. the Cochin, Hyderabad, Calcutta or most important thing is that. ... Bhuvaneshwar, the language used for (Interruptions) .... communication among the common people and the illiterate masses in Hindi. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY be Everywhere you will find that collies, ~i (Nalgonda): Hindi has to taught to drivers, shop keepers, salesmen etc. are the hon. Deputy Speaker.... able to do their work tn Hindi and not in (Interruptions) .... English.... (Interruptions)... In Madras also the situation is the same. there also Hindi [English] is spoken widely. You will be surprised to know that the number of Hindi knowing SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: He has people is constantly increasing in Tamil already started attending Hindi classes. Nadu. Hindi has become the victim of politics in Tamil Nadu. The people knowing Hindi do not know English at all [Translation] in that State. 90 percent people of this country are familiar with Hindi. When SHRI ZAINUl BASHER: He knows Hindi has become a link language in Hindi and you too know. actuality then why cannot it become the link language of the country offiCially? (Interruptions) 353 Constitution AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAKA) Constitution 354 (56th Amdt.) Bill (56th Arndt.) Bill [English) Oriya. All languages are good and rich in themselves. All languages have Originated MR. DfPUlY SPEAKER: You speak in this country. We respect all languages. broken English, then I will Criticise. Hindi was made a link language because it (Interruptions) was spoken and understood by a very large [Trans/atio"] number of people in this country. Just because of this reason Hindi has been able SHRI ZAINUl BASHER: Mr. Deputy to receive the status of a link language. It is Speaker, Sir, the most important point is not that its literature is very vast or rich. I that we have a very low opinion of the know that Bengali language is very rich, Hindi language. This has to be removed. vast and flourishing but the number of people understanding and speaking SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Speak Bengali is very less while the number of for other languages also. people knowing Hindi is very large. I Another intention behind making Hindi a SHRI ZAINUl BASHER: Our feeling of link language was also that other languages inferiority for Hindi language should should flourish in their own regions. be removed. Constitution has granted every language the right to prosper and flourish. I want The hon. Members hailing from the that Constitution should be translated into Hindi speaking States of Uttar Pradesh, every language and should be legally Madhya Pradesh and Bihar can speak very recognised. These translations should be good Hindi but they do not use Hindi awarded due recognition by the High because they think that they will be Courts of the concerned states. Translation considered less competent if they do so. in all the languages should be made legally They do not use it because they think it will authoritative. It depends on the Judges of put a question mark o~ their ability. That is. the Hight Courts of the concemed States why today we have developed a complex as to how they give their judgements what that Hindi is an inferior language. We, the meaning they give to different words and Hindi speaking people, ourselves discrim- how they present a issue. inate against Hindi and think that b> speaking, writing or dojng our work in Hindi we will create a low opinion for Mr Deputy Speaker, Sir, this is not ourselves. I would say that we the Hindi enough. A very proper question has been speaking people should take the initiative asked as to when will this translation be in this direction. If the Hindi speaking completed? I want to know how much people do all their work in Hindi then more time will you take? Our Constituent other will also follow . Today, our Assembly had decided to remove English colleagues from Cujarat and Bengal speak and understand Hindi so well. Hence, and bring Hindi into use in every ~ within 1S years of commencement of Hindi has become a link language in reality. the Regardless of the fact that Shri the Constitution. I hope you will not take Kolandaivelu refuses to accept it and another '5 years for this work also. As a howsoever may give it a political colouring, matter of fact it has no concem with the there cannot be two opinions that Hindi elections. The Hindi speald.. people are has become a link language of our country not likely to be carried away by any senti- ments. It has nothing to do with votes. Still today. For tbe ordinary people Hindi is a I would like to know as to how link language. quiddy you wiU-work to expand the use of Hindi? Similarly, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, there are many other languages also in our country. Hindi has been made a link As a matter of fact the Government has ~e for the sake of convenience. We taken a number of steps to increase the use have never claimed that Hindi is a better of Hindi. Hindi classes are bein& held but ...... than 8enpIi, T"" tamiI or the use of Hindi is not incrusinB in 355 Constitution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 ~ .Constitution 356 (56th Arndt) Bill (56th Arndt) Bill IShri Zainul Basher] all the regional languages which are being recognised under the Constitution. What Government offices. It is as good as nil. wi" be the repercussion of this amendment Reports of various Ministries and de- on the mind of the non-Hindi speaking partments come before us during the people? That is important. Nobody objects, Budget discussion which tell us as to what particularly the State like Kamataka; we are type of Hindi is being used. We go through not against Hindi because we want Hindi the routine reports but they yield no to be the link language; we have accepted results. It is only when the use of Hindi is it; we have accepted the three language increased in Government offices in the ad- fonnula. 6ut, at the same time, we want ministration of the country, Its laws can our language--every linguistic State wants a reach the common man. Without this language of the State to be developed-to nothing can be done. develop. It has been recognised in The Constitution. The Government of India With these words I support the should have taken this step to see that the Constitution Amendment Bill. I hope that authenticated copies In all the languages all the people in the country will gradually are made available. recognise Hindi as a link language. I particularly appeal to the people of Tamil You are aware that In the State the nadu that they should not create any language of the legislature and the hurdles in the way of Hindi. There will be administrative language of the State is their no hann to them from Hindi. Rather they regional language of the State. For exam- will be benefited by it. there has been the ple, in Tamil nadu, it is Tamil; in Karnataka old tradition of Sanskrit in Tamil Nadu. it is in Kannada; in Andhra Pradesh it is There should be no difficulty for them to Telugu; in Kerala, it is Malayalam; in West learn Hindi. More and more people from Bengal, it is Bengali. So most of the Tamil nadu are learning Hindi. Hence our members, legislators, an the absence of any hon. colleague Shr; Kolandarvelu should authenticated version of the Constitution In not drag Hindi into politics. We have never their regional languages are forced to refer made Hindi a means of politics and also only to the English version. Now, when have never talked of thrusting Hindi on you have the authenticated copy of the Tamil nadu or any other State. There is no constitution in Hindi language, don't you question of this type of thought coming think that you will be discriminating against into the minds of Hindi-speaking people. the non-Hind. speaJong States? Will not Therefore, I feel that Hindi will be able to that impression come to non-H indi find its appropriate place in this country in speaking States? So, I would like to stress future. on the Government of India that you (English1 should not do it in the interest of the integrity of the nation, unity and in!~ty of SHRI V.s. KRISHNA IYER (Bangalore the nation; I appeal to the hon. MinISter to South): I support this Bill, but not see that the copies of the Constitution, au- unconditionally. Before I leave this House, thenticated copies of the Constitution, are I want to make a speech in Hindi. But I made available in all the regional languages hope there will not be a snap-poll. tl hope I that are being recognised under the Consti- will have two years. let me see. tution. It is not such a costly affair. What bann is there to bring such an amendment? At the same tim~, I .feel sorry that while Will it not behove our country? We have so piloting the Bill, the hon. Minister Mr Pani- many languages. Will it not strengthen the grahi said that in non-Hindi States, we could refer to the English copy of the unity of the country? If there is any reason, Constitution, because we could not why don't you bring it to the notice of the understand Hindi. House? Let the Minister come out with the reason. At the outset, I say that we are not I really dislike that statement. He shOUld against Hindi, particularly our State is not have said that the Government of India will against Hindi; we recognise it; we want make available the authenticated copies in that Hindi should be developed as a link 357 Constitution ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) CotJItItution 358 (56th Amdt.) 8i// (56th Arndt) Bill tansuage. But, at the same time, I would ment to teach a third language, or «!'Vet. ,.., hke to bring it to the notice of the hone B. C of MaJayalam or Kannadal Minister that the Government of India has (Interruptions) No, that has not been ~. not taken any step to develop Hindi in the How do you expect national ifttegration non;Hindi speaking States &:cept giving then? some doles here and there to some vol· untary organisations. What is that you have It is the accepted policy. The three lan- done for t~ development of Hindi in the guage policy has been accepted as a State non·Hindi speaking States? How do you policy. But at the same time, no attempt want people of those States. to leam Hindi? has been made in the Northern States to I am here for the past three years; and with learn a third lan~e (Interruptions) great difficulty, I have been able to just fonow what the members speak in Hindi. I would like to earnestly appeal that if Particularly, there are some Hindi speeches you are interested in the unity and integrity in literary language of Hindi that I cannot of the country, I appeal to all our Hindi understand at all; many ot us cannot un- speaking friends to learn one of the South derstand it. Of coUrse, some people are Indian lan~es, anyone of the non-Hindi there. What Mr. Chaturvedi said I was able languages. You should learn (Interruptions) to understand it fully. So, this language (Interruptions) should be a simple one, particularly while you develop Hindi, you please see that a That is why an impression has gone simple Hindi which coold be understood down that you are imposing Hindi. by all, should be developed. An hon. Member. Why not Bengali or I will give you an instance. I do not any other language? know about Tamil nadu. If you go to any place in Kamataka you will find that any SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYfR: Any language person who is having -TV, will not fail to in addition to Hindi, I say, not necessarily a switch on his TV set at 9.30 AN. on every South Indian language. Sunday morning to see Ramayana Serial, because it is not only interesting but the In most of the States the legislations are Hindi spoken there, in that Serial is 50 5im· made in the regional languages of the pie that even those who are ignorant about State. For example in ~Tamil Nadu it is in Hindi, who do not know a, b, c of Hindi, Tamil, in Kamataka in Kannada and so on. can also fonow it. So, such a language they Many of the Acts come to the President for- should be developed, You leave the literary assent. 00 you not give assent? You give language for the literary figures. You should assent to them. It is very necessary that evolve such a simple Hindi lan~e which you bring the amendment to the couJd be understood by aU. Constitution so that we could have au- Now, coming to the national thenticated versions of the constitution in integration, .you know Panditji evolved a all the recognised languages. I hope the three language fonnula; and it has been hone Minister Mr. Panigrahi, while replying accepted by almost all the States except to the debate, will certainly give a positive probably one or two States. In this reply and he will see that another connection, what steps has the amendment is brought forward to ensure Covernment of f ndia taken to implement this. Mr. Kaushal has said that the Con. this three language ~onnula? In our States, stitution has already been translated into all in the Southem States, many of us we are the Ianguages .... (Inlel'l'llptionsJ .... implementing it. With the little or meagre resources at our disposal we are In this case the Minister could have implementing the three language fonnula. brought bward simultaneously the But may I ask in the Hindi speaking States amendments. With this observation, I hope how many of them can speak in anyone of that the han. Minister will give a cate- the South Indian languages? Has any gorical assurance that the Constitution wiI attempt been made by the Central Govern- be authenticated in the regional ~ 359 CcnsIfCInion . NOVEMBER 24, 1987 CottstitutIon 360 (56fh AmdrJ BIll (56th Arndt) Bill IShri v. S. Krishna lyer] Throush you, Sir, I would like to request aIio and with that condition., 1 support this Shri Somnath who said that as Hindi amendment Bill. translation will be presented in 4 High Courts only, why so much labour should be MR. DEPUlY·SPEAKER: Shri Balkavi made? What can I say to him. He is my 8airagi. elder brother, like my father. (Interruptions)

(Translation) I have no hesitation in calling him like my father. I would like to ask him why he SHRI ~VI BAlRAGI (Mandsaur): Mr. wants to have the Constitution translated Deputy Speaker. Sir, I support this into Bengali. It will be useful only in one ConstItution ts6th Amendment) Bill. It also High Court i.e. in Calcutta. Similarly, Tamil awes me pleasure that none of the hon. translation will be utilised only in Madras. Members, irrespective of their party affilia- tions, who have spoken on this Bill, have [Eng/ish} opposed it. They have also given their sug- sestion in this regard. It appears that SHRI SOMNATH CHAITERJEE: This is everybody wishes this Bill to be adopted. not for court, for the people to know what is the Constitution. also conaratulate Shri Somnath profusely who did not oppose this Bill. I [Translation] had expected that he will say something in Benpli in his speech but he did not say SHRI BALKAVI BAIRAGI: Please addr~ anything in Bensa1i in his long speech. the Chair, not to me. Mr. Deputy Speaker, (Interruptions) Sir, I will take very little time. Shri Somnath is a great Consti~ional expert, an AN HON. MEMBER: Attachment to- advocate, Making fun of Hindi, he gave the wards Enslish should be shunned. translation of Tennis something like "Patapat gaind" etc. (Interruptions) SHRI BALKAVI BAIRAGI: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would like to say on behalf [Eng/ish] of my entire area that none of us ever said that no other language of the country SHRt SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Sir, should progress. We want that must make it clear, I said the tran5lation authoritative wanslation of the Constitution should be a proper translation not like as in all the languages of the country should Tennis has been translated. be rnad8- available. But as has been said by Shri KatJShal,./' would like to request Shri "Ghas ke upar gained Patapat" Panisrahi that the Resolution which has been brought forward by him had been Translation of the Constitution should not ~ ridiculed earlier. I would like to say that he be like that. It should be a proper can see that even in bringing lh'1S Bill for translation. I therefore did not ridicule disaassion a delay of 10 months has taken Hindi. Mymend is wrong. place. It had beet1 presented on 27 february, 1987 but full one year has since [Translation ] elapsed. It is the height of Hindi's restraint and strensth. Regardi"8 the question of SHRI HAl KAVI BAlRAGI: I want to translation in other languages, we could submit, and I had submitted eartier also to have given a childish reply that other lan- which Shri Mirdha had replied that there is paps also should wait for 38 long years a conspiracy going on against·Hindi in this as has been done in the case of tfindi. But country that it should be made as difficult we would not like to give a reply like this. as possible so that the non-Hindi speaking We wish that translation of every language areas may reject it on the excuse of it being should be made available. They should a very difficult language. The reply from the Icuish and develop. Government was that there is no stICh con- Constitution AG&4.HAYANA 3, 1909 (SAKA) Constitution 362 (56th Arndt) Bill (56th Arndt) Bill SPiraCY and Hindi will be made simple. I 'gram rnarless , language', then I say that am hundred percent one with Shri Iyer that upto 11 December he can name any Hindi should be simple and should be language (\f India, I will produce gram mer comprehensible to all. If today words from of that language at his door step. I may tell oCher ~es are ~ing. ~ncluded. in that Hindi is not a grammerless language. Hindi, the hon. Members should not feel it You may enhance your knowledge. Hindi bad. I consider it a lift which you are giving has a grammer. It is a separate thing that after 38/40 years. Our founding fathers. we mayor may not use it. I congratulate sigMd Hindi as well as English versions of· Shri Kaushal that he reminded us of the old the Constitution.' At least shey were wiser moments. We cdnsider them as a gift. and had a foresight. You honoured one English has been like a curse to this aspect and not the other but even today country. That has now come to an end and we accept this as a gift. gift is from our mother and we accept it in . whatever shape it is and we feel grateful for The reason behind using words of other that. One of my scholarly friend has said languages in Hindi is that the digestion that ours is a country of illiterates. If it is so power of Hindi is quite good. When Hindi then why English is being encouraged? let has already digested those words, how can Hindi function. What type of these illiterate it throw them out. We salute them for one persons are who understand English but do thing. When English language had gripped not understand Hindi. What type of the entire country, you accepted the argument is this? You mean to say that 70 challenge and brought the country out of it percent women understand English and do clutches. If Hindi has accepted few words not understand Hindi? No one is going from other languages then you should not swallow this plea. It is very easy to oppose make a fun of It. Hindi is our language and the common man. Will opposition to Hindi has a good digestion. My mother says help in fonning the Governments? We will "train late hai"., It is not Hindi but my not object to their forming of Governments mother, father, son and every ope else whether they oppose Hindi or support it. lJnderstands it. If we have to make fun of But one thing should be kept in mind. We English, then I would like to give example have waited for 38 years and have tried to of that illiterate villager who sends his see during these years as to which lan- daughter'S wedding card in English with guage can emerge as the link language in pride: this country. No language other than Hindi has emerged as link language. It pains us [English] when Hindi is opposed. We have been told that it will help us in the elections. We will Kindly come and attend my daughter'S not use this language in elections. The wedding ceremony. Is it proper? language used during the election is different. It is the language of politics. Even [Translation] without this language the Congress has formed Governments in seven States of the If one wants to make fun of, it can be country and in future also the Government made of any language. You can ecpunge will be formed. You will pardon me but the from the proceedings, if you want to. Shri Governments you have formed have been Kolandaivelu has said that no one speaks formed on the basis of the different Hindi in Madras. I would like to tell him languages. For getting votes in Bengal you that I am a small poet of Hindi. My name is speak Bengali, in Tamil Nadu you speak Balkavi Bairagi and I reside in Madhya Tamil, in Kerala you speak Ma laya lam, in Pradesh which is just near Tamil Nadu. In Karnataka you speak t

(Trans/ptiop] Which is be~ns us~d. for translation- of the Constitution? let the Minister tell this. SH RI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD {Bhaplpur): There are so man1 sub-divisions in Hindi, 365 Constitution AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAAA) Constitution 366 (56th Arndt.) Bi/I (56th Arndt.) Bill more than three bundred KhaTi Boli and so . p,rocedure C~ because there are so many many others. ·rven the uttar PraOesh Hindi la\ys ~ whidr are ther:e in English in the may not be known to those who are living cOOQtry. It will lead to chaos and confusion

in Madhya Pradesh. Bihar and Orissa Hindi if translation! is done of these laws. I want is compietely different. ... (Interruptions). I to remind the House about one historical have all along been keeping patience, Sir. fact. Sir, in 1965, in Tamil Nadu, there was My friends have been saying so many anti-Hindi agitation. In 1965 in the very things. Even my hands are being same House here, they proposed an official strangthened now because of the speeches language Bill. But such Bill had virtually made by the hon. Member Shri Zainul landed in agitation in Tamil Nadu due to Bashar and my dear poet, Mr. Balkavi which two Central Ministers Mr. Bairagi. It is an accepted fact that Hindi is a C.Subramaniam and Shri. o.V. Alagensan broken language. It has got no grammer. had resigned from the Central Ministries. After knOWing the apprehension and after [Translation] knowing the agitatiQn in Tar.nil Nadu, they had resigned from the Central Ministries. SHRI NARESH CHANDRA CHATUR- Now, what the then hon. Prime Minister, \I EDI (Kanpur): Who says that Hindi is a Shri LAI Bahadur Shastri said to them was grammerl~s langua~e? You are wrong: f "you please withdraw the resignation, I am giving promise to the non-Hindi speaking [Enghsh) people because their language will also be incorporated and the assurance given by SHRI P. KOtANDAIVElU: That is what the then Prime Minister Pandit Jawaharlal be has $tated; I am not stating this. It is an Nehru will be incorporated in the accepted fact that Shri Zainul Basher has constitution". That was the promise made stated that it is a grammerless language .... by Shri Lal Bahadur Shastri. I want to know (Interruptions). whether that pr.omise has been carried out by the present Ministry or the previous MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please order. Ministry. Why did they not do it? The hon. Prime Minister is sitting in the seat where SHRI ZAtNUl BASHER: I have not said the previous hon. Prime Mimster, Shri LAI that. I have said that. ... (Interruptions). Bahadur Shastri sat where the han. Prime Minister, Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru sat. In DR. S. JAGATH RAKSHAKAN: Only you the very same seat, you are now sitting but have accepted this .... (Interruptions). You the assurances given by them have not have said that Hindi is a grammerless been incorporated in the Constitution so language .... (lnterruptlOns). Yoo only said far. You please answer to this point. that Hindi IS a brokel.llanguage. Sir, many stalwarts like Shri Jagannath MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Even if he has Kaushal, the former law Minister, Shri said like that, he never meant that. Even if Somnath Chatterjee, Bar-at-Law and so you presume like. that, that is not what he many stalwarts studied law and they had meant. their education in English medium, not in Hindi medium. let m~ tell you a fact here SHRI P. KOLANDAIVElU: Sir, actually that our hon. Prime Minister got his this Bill is against the accepted language education in the Dun School where the tJOlicy of the Central Government and the medium of instruction is English, not Hindi. assurances given by Pandit Jawaharlal What do you say for this? If such is the Nehru to the non-Hindi speaking people. case, why do you bring Hindi here? What is Actually they want to play upon the the urgency for it now? When so many destinies of the younger generation. Today programmes are not being implemented you are bringing translation for the property, what is the necessity of bringing Constitution, tomorrow you may bring forward" this Amendment? Actually, we translation for the Indian Penal Code, Civil have to discuss here with regard to the Procedure Code and the Indian Criminal natural calamities that the country has 361 Constitution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution 368 (56th Amdt) Bill (56th Arndt.) Bill [Shri P. KoIandaivelu) They are haVing 3 languages as o1JIr..'ia1 ianguages. In Malaysia, three languages are faced in the recent past. But here the official languages. Why clo we not do such preference and priority are given only for a thing here? Why don't you accept this in Hindi. Why do you give preference to this prindple for I ndia which is a vast country lMft1 Instead ot discUSsing the natural both multi-lingual and multi-racial. Your aalamities iJl the country under Rule 193, food and my food differ much. You may-not· )QI have given preference to this add much spices but we may add spiCC$. Amendment 8nl. Why is !.lIch a hasty When such is the case In I ndia, why do Y9U actiont What is the ~ency to pass this not accept lamO or Matayalaftl or Telugu or Bill nowl If this Bill is passed, do you mean Kannada or Bengali as official languages? to say that everyone in the country will get All these languages are rich enough to have his food? Do you mean to say that every the official status. These languaps must be person in tbe coootry will have house? accepted. More than 60% of the people in the Now what about the spending for one country are below the poverty line. Why do language. You are spending crores and you want to bring this legislation at this crores of rupees for Hindi alone. How do moment? Actually, it is being opposed by you get the money. We are paying taxes. Tamil Nadu and non-Hindi speaking States. Even the people in the non-Hindi speaking Can )tOll answer this point? If a language areas are paying taxes and the very same becomes an official language, if a language tax money is being spent only for one is recognised as official language, then it language, i.e. Hindi. How can you do it? should be rich enough and it should be a That is why,' I say, when you are bringing renowned language. legislation like this, when you are bringing Bil1s like this, instead of unity, there will be It must be a historically accepted disunity, instead of integration, there will language. Has Hindi got all the qualities, 1 be disintegration. That is why, I insist upon want to know. You know fully well that this. I oppose the Bill because you are oot even in Ramayana, a Hindi Serial which we at all giving preference and predominance are seeing every week, you ~ight have for Tamil and other languages. Actuany, the seen the Tamil letters. Those letters are fundamental rights are denied to us. We there. Even vishnu was taught only in Tam it have got every right to make a plea before first. Tamil is a historical language more the Central Government. We haYe got than 2,000 years old. every right to press upon the Central Covernment for equal status for our When such is the case, why are you not languages. When such is the case, why are accepting Tamil as official language? But you not givitag that preference? you want to accept only Hindi as the As tar as this issue is concerned, this is a official language. When 15 languages have very sensitive and delicate issue. Don't been recognised in the Constitution why forget the fact that not only in Tamil Nadu do you not accept aU the languages as the but in the Southern parts, not only in official languages and translate the Southern parts but even in Bengal and in Constitution into all the 15 languages? other States, it is a sensitive and delicate issue. tn order to satisfy the Hindi fanatics, Take for example, a small country like you have brought this Bill. I strongly Sri lanka. In Sri Lanka, three languages condemn this Government because you are official languages, i.e. NO.1, Sinhala, have brought forward this Bill only to No.2, Tamil and No.3, English. They accept satisfy these Hindi fanatics. Why have you the three languages. In our country, we are brought thIS Bill in the odd hours? What is having 700 million people but they are the necessity? Even we are unable to solve having 16 million people. They accept 3 the problems which are existing in Sri languages as official languages. But, here, Lanka. What happened to the ceasefire? 100 miUion people are in India. Why do we Yesterday, up to 7 O'clock, there was not accept all the 15 languages as official ceasefire. Afterwards, whether the ceasefire languages? Take, for example, Singapore. continues or not, we do not know. we are 369 Constitution ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Constitution 370 (56th Arndt.) Bill (56th Amdt:) BiD not told. No Minister is here to make a [Translation] statement whether the operations are continuing or the ceasefire is continuing. SHRI YOGESHWAR PRASAD When such is the case, why do you bring YOGESH (Chatra): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, such a Bill ? Let me tell you one fact. Mr. the Bill which has been brought forward by Chaturvedi, my hon. friend was' telling that Shri Pan igrah i is very helpful for national English should go ,away from the country. unity. When shri Panigrahi made his speech in Hindi in Rajya Sabha, the people When English goes away from the of the entire country welcomed it and the country, many stalwarts have to go away Press also praised it. Many friends have from this country. Are you accepting it? I spoken in favour of and showered praises know the inner mind of Shri Chaturvedi on English. I would like to remind them because our hon. Prime Minister had his that when they go abroad and speak in education in English. That is why, he insists English in place of their own language'. they upon English to go away from this country. are 4een . with contemptuous eyes there Is it not so? and they do not get respect.

I Let me tell you one fact. The first AU the top leaders of USSR, who visit President of tndia Dr. Rajendra Prasad s'iad: foreign countries, speak in their own language. The political leaders of other countries also speak in their own language "English language has brought us nearer in our country. Here I would like to tell Shri and nearer." What do you say about this? Somnath Chatterjee that when a comrade English language helped us in the freedom from his state went to USSR, he started struggle. Do you disagree? You are dressing speaking these in English, a person from in English way. You are talking English. But, the audience rose and said, at the same time, our Shri Chaturvedi says that English should go away from this "Arai Moshay, Apni Bangia Bhasha Mein country. How could it be? (Interruptions). Bolona Keno?" Why he was not speaking in Bengali? The persons speaking in English really think that English a language which can over-awe I simply request this Gov~mment that others and by speaking in English, ~"ese the aspirations of the Tamil people in the persons want to create an inferiOrity south have to be fulfilled. complex among the persons who can express their views in their mother tongue. Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru and Shrimati Indira Gandhi made many assurances in In this connection I want to quote a the very same House that as long as .non- couplet of poet Bihari. Bihari wrote: HlIldi people wal)t it. English will contll1~e. That is what Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru said. "Arai Meri Bir Jaisa Taise in Ankhin te That assurance has been incorporated in Kadh Gayo, our Con5titution. Furthermore, even in the House, during the' Question Hour, we are Abir Pe Ahir To Kadhyo Nahin" not aUowed to ask questions in ollr regional Iclnguages, in oar mother tongue. This means that a pinch of colour Abir Why should there be such a step-~otherly fell ;n the eye of one Gopi and other Gopi attitude? In this House, only English and after remomg the Abir t.Dm the eye of that Hindi simultaneous translations are coming Gopi asked as to how was she feeling. She forth but not in regional languages. One replied that the colour has been removed must be able to ask main questions and but the son of the Abir (Krishna) has not supplementary questions in regional gone from his heart. languages atso and the House must help all the Members to speak in their own SiMilarly, though Britishers have left the languages. Thank you. country, craze for English is still there in 371 Constitution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution 372 (56th Arndt) Bill (56th Arndt.) 8ill [Shri Yogeshwar Prasad YogeshJ Mukherjee. Madam, please be brief. our country in some people here. I would because the Minister wants to reply. like to submit that if you contiune to promote this craze for English in the minds SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE of .t~ peo~le, ~ feeling of integrity a~d (Panskura): Sir, in that case, you should unity an India will never be inculcated.The have controlled others. (Interruptions) way you want to bring about unity in the country by opposing Hindi, that would lead Sir, the Indian Constitution did provide to disintegration. It is a matter of great for the use of both English and Hindi shame for all of us that English, a foreign languages and we vizualised that in future language is binding us together. Nothing we would be able to replace the foreign could be more unfortunate than this. language by a national language. !/nterruptions) People asked you to speak Unfortunately we have not been able to do In Tamil, but you could not speak in Tamil. so .... Only Hindi has been made the offiCial You did not show resp~ct to your mother language. (Interruptions) That is the realistic tongue. (Interruptions) I know that it is said state that we are in. It is a very senSitive that .even ~~ds remain anxious to speak in question. Therefore, let us not be Tam.1 but It IS a matter of great regret that flippant. .. (lnterruptions} I wish that all you do not. ~e ~aith even in your Members of Parliament should have taken language Tamil. You dJd not take even this a vow that they will not send their children much ootheration. Mr. Deputy Speaker to study in any English Medium Schools. Sir, Tamil is a fine language, but th~ ~ng~a~e which can hnk the entire country (Interruptions) IS Hindi only. All the Hindi speaking people have great regard for this language nd it MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: Don't make has very rich literature. But y(hE'never there challenges here, is a talk of unity vis-a-vis Hindi, there are certain people who scare us of Hindi being SHRIMATI GEfTA MUKHER}EE: Sir, I do impediment in the way of our unity. I support the Bill. We have no quarrel with would like to tell you about the feelings you as far as this issue is concerned. But, among the people of Tamil Nadu. When Sir, I also support the other contentions we talk to the common man there, they say which are very justified that authoritative that they are not opposed to Hindi. There translations should be made available ift all are only few English speaking people who other Indian languages. It has already been in collusion with the rich and the capitalists done to some extent. There should be a try to incite anti Hindi feelings among the provision to make those authoritative people. Otherwise there is no anti .. Hindi translations with proper corrections etc. feeling in the general public in Tamil Nadu That provision should have been there. or for that matter, in whole of South India. I would, therefore, like to submit that Considering the volatile situation that views of a few helpful of persons should we are in, I do support the Bill. Please not be taken into consideration. Such peo- excuse me, if I go to another dimension. ple do not care for the feelings of the peo- This is a Constitution Amendment on ple of their own State. They are not fulfiH- ~nslation. I think translation is very ing the aspirations of the people here also. Important. Without taking much time of the House, I ~ would like to say that I welcome and sup- On this occasion when we are port the Constitution (Amendment) BUI discussing a Constitution Amendment Bill which has been brought forward by Shri should we not recall the Constitution itse~ Panigrahi in the interest of the country and and its various provisions and see how far for naaintai~ing the integrity of the country. they are beiag/pbserved-;-not onlY in (orm but in the soul of it? You feel' ashamed (English] when you find that, as far as the Directive - Prindples are '~oncemed, uptilt now all of MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Shrimati Ceeta them are observed more by violation than 373 Constitution ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (.wv\) Constitution . 374 (S6th Arndt.) Bill (56th Arndt) Bill by compliince. Let us see the right to an country. It was adopted on the 26th day at adequate means of livelihood. Is the State November, 1949. If that is so, if that is the being directed that way? Has that been Bible of the people of our country, how guaranteed? No. many people of our country know this Then, the ownership and control of the Bible? Is it not the commitment of the matreriaJ resources of the community Government to teach the people of this sh®ld be so. distributed as best to country this particular Bible? Mr. Somnath subserve the common good. is it being Chatterjee has said that 76 per cent of the done~'No; uptUi now there have 'been no women who are our mothers and ~isters land reforms then, the operation of the are illiterate. Now, you bringing this Bill. economic system s~ould be done in a way Who will be benefited by it? Who will read that concentration of wealth does not take it. I do not have any objection to your place. But the State is being run in such a- bringing this SiH. But who will read it? Is it way that more concentration of wealth is not a gurantee given under the taking place. Then, equal pay for. equal Constitution that the people of this country work for both men and women--it is still far will be given education? Our women from a reality. Then, the health and workers, the beedi workers, the people strength of workers, 'men and women, and. who are rotting in the streets, are all the tender age of children are not to be illiterate today; they do not know anything abused. But what is happening? They are about the present law. The industrial being abused every day, every minute. workers do not kOll anything about the Therefore, I would like to draw attention to labour laws and other laws adopted for the fact that on this occasion the them. Constitution has to be remembered. MR. DEPUlY·SPEAKER: Please try to Adequate means of livelihood means the conclude. right to work .... Sf-tRI BHADRESWAR TANTI: Please give MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: Please try to me two minutes, Sir. "conclude. . SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: Sir, you Sir, you have seen the law whicll 1)ave' are not giving me time, So, I am nQt gO.ing been enacted by the government for the ar~ into details, I thought that, on this last 40 years nothing but the scraf of paper for the majority of the people of our occasion, every speaker would at least refer to the Constitution and vow for really country.lt is a useless law because people I creating such a State which would really are not literate. There is a bundle of laws observe these Directive Principles4_ The for the illiterate people of our country. You present ruling Party has totally failed on are master in creating laws but you are also the master in not implementing the laws. this. (Interruptions) You commit a crime and go to court and Therefore, I would say this. Let this say,"1 do not know anything about the law. authoritative translation tn Hindi take That is why I have committed this crime." place, but at the same time provide for the But there is a dictum that 'ignorance of law authoritative translation of the Constitution is . no ~xcuse.' Unless the people are in all other recognised. regioo~~ languages educated, these laws for the people are also. (Interruptions) Llst but not least, I aseless. I request the Government whea wOuld take this opportunity to remind that you are bringing laws but make it a point to some languases like the Nepali, the Ma- educate the people in the country. nipuri and the Konkani must be given im- Otherwise these laws will remain as scrap mediate recognition. (InterruptionsJ of paper and nothing else. SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI (Kaliabor): [Trans/atio,. ) Sir, I would lik,. to thank the hone Minister for bringing foiward· this Constitution SHRI C. JANCA REDDY (Hanamkonda): Amendment Bill and I support it: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise to support Sir, it is said that the Constitution of this Bill and it is a matter of great India is the Bible of the people of our great I satisfaction that this ,II has been brought 375 Constitution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution 376 (56th Ivndt!) Bill (56th A1rtdt.) Bill [Shri C. Janga Reddy] SHRI P. KOlANDAIVElU: How do you know that 90')(, know Hintli? forward. Only an Indian language can be (Interruptions) the official language. English can never be our official language or link language. We [Translation 1 are committing a mistake by continuing SHRI C. JANCA REDDY: I never speak with English. When we speak in unparliamentary laf\tgJage. Parliament, we say Sri Lankan Tamils, but we do not have courage to ~II them Sri If you ask for a betel in Hindi, he will Lankan Indians. We are forgetting that they give you betel for five paise. Similarly if one are not Sri Lankan Tamils they are Sri asks a shopkeeper for rice or bread, he will Lankan Indians. When Shri Gorbachev immediately give you those things. comes to our Central Hall in Parliament, he Everybody knows Hindi. Rickshaw pullers delivers his speech in Russian though he know Hindi. All the workers in hotels know can speak in English, but it is a matter of Hindi. But these people force them to shame that our Prime Minister speaks in launch agitation. They should do all their English. We should speak in Hindi. In UNO work in regionallanguage.(lnterruptions) also we should speak in Indian languages, I would like to submit that there are but we do not speak in Hindi in foreign four States in South India Kerala, countries. Hindi speaking Members deliver Kamataka, Andhra Pradesh and Tamil their speeches in English in Parliament. Nadu, but on the border of Chittoor, the Prof. Tewary speaks in English. It is a people of Tamil Nadu started agitating matter of shame. We should try to speak in against Hindi. In Andhra Pradesh, anti· Hindi. Hindi is our national language but Hindi agitations have never be~n launched. agitation was launched in the name of . It is a matter of regret that..tt»ese people are language though Gandhiji brought misleading the people to launch agitation iDdependence for the country with .the help just for the sake of votes. (Interruptions) of Hindustan in Andhra Pradesh. Andhra Anti-Hindi feelings should not be created Bhasha Udyaman was launched against by misleading people. (Interruptions) Urdu and Nizam and Nizam Government MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: Mr. 1anga was removed from office. Similarly, we Reddy, please. condude. (Interruptions). were able to bring about unity among the That is why I am not allowing you. When I people in the name ot language and were say that you have to be brief, you should be able to achieve independence for the brief. (Interruptions) I am not allowing him country. Our friends sitting to my left are to go on record. (Interruptions) Nothing spearheading an agitation against Hindi more will go on record. (Interruptions)-- only for the sake of votes, though nin~ty per cent of people in Tamil Nadu know PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Baramulla): Sir, Hindi (Interruptions) let me speak for three minutes. You may visit small shops or big shops, MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: Every Member is would fmd everybody speaking in you like that; I cannot allow. Hindi. The common man also understands Hirldi, but these people ha¥e launched an agitation against Hindi just to catch votes. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: This is unrea- sonable, Mr. Deputy Speaker. (Interruptions) (EngflSh) MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: You are unrea- sonable always. When I called you to DR. S. JAGATHRAKSHAKAN: We won't speak, you did not speak. allow. This is wrong. (Interruptions) [Translation) MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: If it is unparliamentary, we will see to it. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: Mr. Deputy ··Notrecorded. 377 Constitution ACRAHAYANA!, 1909 (SAM) Constitution 378 (56th Arndt) Bill (56th Mult.) Bill Speaker, Sir, I rise to support this Bill. (English] There is no dispute over it. Hindi is our national language and our Constitutiort MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: That is all. There must be translated in our national language is no time. (Inte"UptioRS) I cannot call all and ft should be Signed by our hon. the Members. The Minister also has to President. There is nothing in it which reply. might be opposed. The people who (Interruptions) oppose this Bill are as a matter of fact opposing the unity of our country. [Trans/ation) SHRI G.M. BANAlWAlLA (Ponnani): On this occasion, I would like to submit Mr. DeputyuSpeaker, Sir, I rise t~ support in this House that we &hould make efforts the Constitution (Amendment) Bill. Thank in this country to join the hearts and when God, the lacuna which was left earlier, has hearts are to be brought together, on the after all been removed. It was legitimate question of language we should adopt a right of Hindi which is now being given to liberal attitude. When you talk of Hindi, I it and we have no objection to it. Certainly, would like to submit that Hindi and Urdu the Hindi translation of the Constitution are both one and the same languages. In should be treated as authoritative and that the history of the countsy's independence, js what is being done. As the time at my Urdu songs, poems, and gazals, ~I'ld Urdu disposal is very limited. I would like to writin& right from H~rat Mohani to Pt. submit that beside Hindi, other languages Jawahar Lal Nehru had played c1 wonderful which ha\le been included in the Eighth role in the freedom struggle. Due to Schedule of the Constitution should also be attraction of Urdu Poetry, Mahatma Gandhi given their due place. The Government learnt Urdu. I am not pleading the case of should accept it and should ensure that Urdu to you, but simply making a these languages are not deprived of their submission to you. due rights. It should be made legally compulsory to translate the Constitution in Many people have spoken here and all the languages that are mentioned in the Shrimati Cita Mukherjee, Shri Somndth Eighth Schedule, including Urdu and the Chatterjee and others have also supported translation thereof should be legally this Bill. I also think it to be very essential. accepted as authoriative. Today, you can They have said that this Bill should have say that translation in 12 of the 15 been brought much earlier. 1 also support languages has been done, but to say this this view that this Bill should have been much is not enough. They should be given brought much earlier. But on this occasion, the same constitutional status that is being I would like to submit to you that our b ,ven to the Hindi Translation through this Constitution must be translated in all the Amending Bill. languages listed in the Eighth Schedule of our Constitution. Urdu occupies a special position. leave aside Kashmir which has given a special I want to cite an example before you. status in the Constitution, Urdu is an The Hon. Prime Minister is present in the official language in some other States and House at the moment. You might have as such special attention should be paid to heard the name of Kazakistan in Russia. I Urdu. Iqbal has said have never been to Kazakistan. About 10 lakh people live there and they have te.n "Gaisu-e-Urdu minnat pajeer shana hai, languages. The U .S.S. R. made efforts to hai, promote all these ten languages. Books are available in all these ten languages. Now sharna-yeh-saudai dil soji--parwana hai." when our country is fighting against ha·I. " poverty and marching towards prosperity, I would submit that merely translating the Urdu song "Saare jahan se achcha Constitution in all languages is not enough Hindostan hamara" is the most famous of (Interruptions) all songs and is a national song. 379 Constitution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution 38C. (56th Arndt.) Bill (56th Arndt.) Bill (Shri C.M. Bantwalla) SHRI P. KOlANDAIVElU: Are you afraid of the Hindi .Fanatics? You began your I would like to reiterate that beside speech in English. You have to continue in Hindi, Urdu translation should also be English. given constitutional and legal status. At the same time, other languages too should get MR. DE PUTY SPEAKE R: Please take your their due right. seat. {English] SHRIBHACWAT JHAAlAD (Bhagalpur): Speak in both the languages. THE MINISTER Of STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI Dr. S. JAGATHRAKSHAKAN: We won't CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI); Mr. De~ut): allow. Speaker, Sir, I am extremelY grateful to all the hon. members . (Interruptions ) I (Interruptions) [Translation] SHRI P. KOLANDAIVElU: Why are you afraid of Hindi fanatics? You began your MANY HON. MEMBERS: Speak in speech in English. What is this? Hindi. (Interruptions)

IEnglish] MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: Please listen to the Minister. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order. Order. [Translation ] SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI: ... . who have participated in this debate but it SH RI C. JANCA REDDY: Neither in has only a limited objective as has been Hindi nor in English, speak in your Oriya pointed out by Shri Jagan Nath Kaushal. language. Speak in yOlK mother tongue.

(Interruptions) (Interruptions)

[Translation) [English] SHR\ RAM NAC'NA M'SHRA: Speak in MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order.. Order. .Hindi. SHRI CHINTMtANI PANIGRAHI: Sir, I SHRI CHINT.MI\J\NI PANICRAHI: Hon am extremely grateful to the Hon'ble Speaker, Sir, I grateful to Deputy am all. Members who have participated in this (Interruptions) debate. But I must tell you that this debate has a very limited objective as our Hon'ble First I will speak in H incti for two friend, Mr. Jagan Nath Kaushal, has minutes and thereafter I will speak in pointed out. It is only to authenticate the English. Hindi text of the Constitution of India. (Interruptions) It has already been agreed to by the Constituent Assembly. We are only [English) implementing the resoJution of the Constituent Assembly. Therefore, I say at SHRI P. KOLANDAIVElU: We ",ant in least after a long time we are implementing English. Why are you afraid of the Hindi the resolution of the constituent Assembly. fanatics? . We are gl3teful to the Parliament. This is a historic occasion when our Government (Interruptions ) and Parliament are giving a gift to the 381 Constitution AGRAHAYANA3, 1909 (SAJV\) Constitution 382 (56th Amdt.) Bill (56th Arndt.) 8il/ people ot this country by fulfilling a long SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI: You cherished as proper if our people. are good at heart. I always find you good. Perhaps Sri Lanka was in your mtnd Therefore, you brought in tkat controversy (Interruptions)

SHRI P. KOLANDA'VElU: No, Sir. MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: Order, order. DR. S. JAGATHRAKSHAKAN: This is our blood.

SHRI CHINTM1ANI PANICRAHI: Once (Interruptions) again, I must try to mention that it has nothing to do with any step-motherly SHRI CH INTAIv\AN I PANICRAHI: attitude towards any regional language. We During their speeches, many Hon'ble are respecting all the regional languages. I Members have given support to this Bill. I can read out also that section 53 of the welcome their support. Official language Act, 1963, substituted by Act 1 of 1 %8 with effect from 26.1.1965 ~ am reminded of a story about an old has permitted the use of English language woman who knew one medicine for all the for official purposes of the Union. diseases. She used to give less amount of Therefore, we are carrying on the opium for headache and a little more for assurances given by Prime Minister Nehru, typhoid. Similarly some friends brought in Prime Minister· Indira~ and Rajivji, some subject like industry, education (Interruptions)... We had given that unemployment, illiteracy and Sri Lanka etc. assurance in the Official language Act. So which have nothing to do with this Bill. It far as the translations into the other has also got nothing to do with elections. I regional Janguage are co,)cerned, it is do not know why election phobia has there. Under Section 7 of the official come into the minds of some of the hon. lar1gUage Act the Governor has to Members. This is a great historic occaSion. authentical the use of a language other We shan implement the resolution of the than English in the High Court. Only four Constituent Assembly. and we shan adopt.it High Courts/State Governments they have unanimously. I shall be grateful if it is been permitted k) use Hindi wrote to us adopted unanimously. Therefore, in their respective High Court. Unfortunately no other State Government MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: Before put has come forward to do so. Similar the motion for consideration of the BiU to legislation for other languages may also be YOte, I would like to say that this being a considered at appropriate time. There is no Constitution (Amendment) Bill, voting has steps motherly attitude to any other to be by division. regional language. We want to promote all the Indian regional languages. If may let the lobbies be cleared. language is not included in the Eighth Schedule, it does not mean that we are not Now the lobbies have been cleared. trying to help to develop that language. In the Seventh Plan, we have already allocated Rs. 11.6 crores for the The question is: development of all the modern Indian languages. Therefore, there is not any step- motherly attitude. Perhaps you brought in "That the Bill further to amend the some heat and controversy... Constitution of India be taken into consideration."

SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU: No, no. The Lok Sabha divided. 383 Constitution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution. 384 (56th Amdt.) BiU (56th Arndt) 8iJJ Division No.3] [15.57 hI'S. AYES

Abbasi, Shri. K. J. Basavarajeswari, Shrimati

Abdul Ghafoor, Shri Bhagat, Shri H. K. L

Acharia, Shri Basudeb Bhakta, Shri Manorajan

Adaikalaraj, Shri L Sharat Singh, Shri

Agarwal, Shri Jai Prakash Bhoi, Dr. Krupasindhu

Ahmad, Shri Sarfaraz Bboopathy, Shri G.

Ahmed, Shrimati Abida Bhosale, Shri Prataprao B.

Akhtar Hasan, Shri Bhumij, Shri Haren

Alkha Ram, Shri Bhuria, Shri Dileep Singh

Anand Singh, Shri Birbal, Shri

Anjiah, Shrimati Manemma Birendra Singh, Rao

Ansari, Shri Abdul Hannan Birinder Singh, Shri

Ansari, Shri Z. R. Budania, Shri Narendra , Arjun Singh, Shri Bundela, Shri Sujan Singh

Arunachalam, Shri M. Chandrakar, Shri Chandulal

Athithan, Shri R. Dhanuskodi Chandrasekhar, Shrimati M.

. 'Awasthi, Shri Jagdish Chandrashekharappa, Shri T. V.

Azad, Shri Bhagwat Jha Chandresh Kumari, Shrimati

Azad, Shri Chulam Nabi Ctiifferjee, -5hri 5c?l1\I'}ath

Baghel, Shri Pratapsinh Chaturvedi, Shri Naresh Ch~ndra

Baitha, Shri D. L "Chaturvedi, Shrimati Vidyavat~

Bala Goud, Shri T. Chaudhary, Shri Manphool Singh

Balaraman, Shri L Chavan, Shri Ashok Shankarrao

Bali, Shrimati Vyjayanthimala Chavan, ShriA1ati Premalabai

Banatwalla, Shri G. M. Chidambaram, Shri P.

Banerjee, Kumari Mamata Choudhari, Shrimati Usha 385 ConstJtution ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Constitution 386 f56th Mtdt.) Bill (56th Amdt.) Bill Choudhary, Shri Jagannath Gadhvi, Shri B. K

Chowdhary, Shri Saifuddin Gaekwad, Shri Ranjit Singh

Dabhi, Shri Ajitsinh Camit, Shri C. D.

Dalbir Singh, Shri Candhi, Shri Rajiv

Dalwai, Shri Hussain Ganga Ram, Shri

Damor, Shri Somjibhai Gehlot, Shri Ashok

Das, Shri Anadi Charan Gholap, Shri S. C.

Das, Shri Sipin Pal Ghorpade, Shri M. Y.

Das, Shri Sudarsan Ghosal, Shri Debi

Das Munsi, Shri Priya Ranjan Ghosh, Shri Bimal Kanti

DeMis, Shri N. Ghosh, Shri TaNn Kanti

Deo, Shri V. Kishore Chandra S. Gohil, Shri G. B.

Deora, Shri Murti Comango, Shri Giridhar

Dev, Shri SOl}tosh Mohan Coswami, Shri Dinesh

DeYi, Prof. Chandra Bhanu Gounder, Shir A. S.

Dhillon, Dr. G. S. Gowda, Shri H. N. Nanje

Digal, Shri Radhakanta Guha, Dr. Phulrenu

Dighe, Shri Sharad Gupta, Shrimati Prabhawati

Digvijay Sinh, Shri Halder, Prof. M. ~

Digvijaya Singh, Shri Harpal Singh, Shri

Dikshit, Shrimati Sheila jadeja, Shri D. P.

Dinesh Singh, Shri Jagannath Prasad, Shri

Dogra, Shn C. l. jain, Shri Dal Chander

Oongaonkar, Shri Sahebrao Patil Jain, Shri Nihal Singh

Dube, Shri Bhishma Deo Jain, Shri Virdhi Chander

Engti, Shri Biren Singh Jatav, Shri Kammodilal

Fale.ro, Shri Eduardo jayamohan, Shri A.

Fernandes, Shri Oscar Jhansi Lakshmi, Shrimati N. P. 387 Constitution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution 388 (56th Amdt.) Bill (56th Amdt.) Bill Jhikram, Shri M. L Kuppuswamy, Shri <;. k.

Jitendra Prasada, Shri Kurien, Prof. P. J.

)itendra Singh, Shri Kurup, Shri Suresh

Jujhar Singh, Shri Law, Shri ~utosh

Kamal Nath, Shri Lowang, Shri Wangpha

Kamat, Shri Curudas Madhuree Singh, Shrimati

Kamble, Soo Arvind Tulshiram Mahabir Prasad, Shri

Kamla Kumari, Kumari Mahajan, Shri Y. S.

Kamson, Prof. Meijinlung Malik, Shri Dharampal Singh

Kaut;_ Shrimati Sheila Malik, Shri Purna Chandra Kaushal, Shri Jagan Nath Malviya, Shri Sapulal

Ken, Shri Lala Ram Mane, Shri Murlidhar

KeyurBhushan,Shri Manorama Singh, Shrimati

Khan, Shri Aslam Sher Manvendra Singh, Shri

Khan, Shri Mohd. Ayub Mavani, Shrimati Patel Ramaben Ramjibhai

Khan, Shri Rahim Mehta, Shri Haroobhai

Khattri, Shri Ninnal Meira Kumar, Shrimati

Khirhar, Shri R. S. Mirdha, Shri Ram Newas

Kidwai, Shrimati Mohsina Mishra, Shri C. S.

Kinder Lal, Shri Mishra, Dr. Prabhat Kumar

Kisku, Shri Prithvi Chand Mishra, Shri Ram Nagina

Krishna Kumar, Shri S. Mishra, Shri Shripati

Krishna Singh, Shri Mishra, Shri Umakant

Kshirsagar, Shrimati Kesharbai Misra, Shri Nityananda

Kuchan, Shri Cangadhar S. Modi, Shri Vishnu

IWjur, Shri Maurice Mohanty, Shri Brajamohan

Kumaramangalam, Shri P. R. More, Prof. Ramkrishna

Kunwar Ram, Shri Motilal Singh, Shri 389 Constitution AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SM}\) Constitution 390 (56th Arndt.) Bill (56th Arndt) Bill Mukherjee, Shrimati Geeta Patel, Shri U. H.

Mundackal, Shri George Joseph Pathak, Shri Chandra Kishore

Murthy, Shri M. V. Chandrashekara Patil, Shri Balasaheb Vikhe

Murty, Shri Bhatta~ Srirama Patil, Shri H. B.

Mushran, Shri Ajay Patil, Shri Prakash V.

Naik, Shri Shantaram Patil, Shri Shivraj V.

Naikar, Shri D. K. Patil, Shri Veerendra

Nam~al, Shri P. Patil, Shri Vijay N.

Narayanan, Shri K. R. Patil, Shri Yashwantrao Gadakh

Natwar Singh, Shri K. Pattnaik, Shri Jagannath

Nawal Prabhakar, Shrimati Sunderwati Penchalliah, Shri P

Neekhra, Shri Rameshwar Peruman, Dr. P. Vallal

Odeyar, Shri Channaiah Poojary, Shri Janardhana

Oraon, Shrimati Sumati Potdukhe, Shri Shantaram

Pakeer Mohamed, Shri E. S. M. Prabhu, Sbri R.

Pandey, Shri Damodar Pradhan, Shri K.

Pandey, Shri Madan Pradhani, Shri K

Pandey, Shri Manoj Prakash Chandra, Shri

Pamgrahi, Shri Chintamani Puran Chandra, Shri

Panigrahi, Shri Sriballav Purohit, Shri Banwari lal

Panika, Shri Ram Pyare Pushpa Devi, Kumari

Panja, Shn A. K Qureshi, Shri Aziz

Pant, Shri K C. Raghuraj Singh, Chaudhary

Panwar, Shri Satyanarayan Rai, Shri Raj Kumar

Parashar, Prof.· Narain Chand Raj Karan Singh, Shri

Pardhi, Shri Keshaorao Rajeshwaran, Dr. V.

Patel, Shri Ahmed M. Rajhans, Dr. G. S.

Patel, Shri Ram Pujan Raju, Shri Ananda Gajapathi 391 Constitution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 ConStlrution 392 (56th Arndt) Bill (56th Nndt) ~ill Raju, Shri Vijaya Ku .... Saha, Shri Cadadhar

Ram, Shri Ramswaroop Sahi, Shrimati Krishna

Ram Awadh Prasad, Shri Sahu, Shri Shiv Prasad

Ram Bahadur Singh, Shri Sait, Shri Azeez

Ram Chan, Shri Sait, Shri Ebrahim Suiaiman

Ram Pf'akash, Ch. Sakargaym, Shri Kalicharan

Ram Samujhawan, Shri Salahuddin, Shri

Ram Singh, Shri Sankhawar, Shri Ashkaran

Ramachandran, Shri Mullappally Sankata Prasad, Dr.

Ramamurthy, Shri K. Satyendra Chandra, Shri

Ramashray Prasad Singh, Shri Sathe, Shri Vasant

Ramulu, Shri H. G. Sayeed, Shri P. M.

Ranganath , Shri K. H. Scindia, Shri Madhavrao

Rao, Shri J. Chokka Sen, Shri Bholanath

Rao, Shri Vengala Sethi, Shri Ananta Prasad

Rao, Shri K. S. Sethi, Shri P. C.

Rao, Shri P. V. Narasimha Shah, Shn Anoopchand

Rao, Shri V. Krishna Shahi, Shri Laliteswar

Rao, Shri V. Sobhanadreeswara Shailesh, Dr. B. l

Rath, Shri Somnath Shaktawat, Prof. Ninnala Kumari

Rathawa, Shri Amarsinh Shankaranand, Shri B.

Rathod, Shri Uuam Shanmugam, Shri P.

Raut, Shri Bhola Sharma, Shri Pratap Bhanu

Ravani, Shri Navin Shastri, Shri Hari Krishna

Rawat, Shri Prabhu lal Shingda, Shri O.B.

Reddi, Shri C. Madhav Shivendra Bahadur Singh, Shri

Reddy, Shri M. Raghuma Siddiq, Shri Hafiz Mohd

Saha, Shri Ajit Kumar Sidnal, Shri S. B. 393 Constitution ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAICA) Constitution· 394 (56th Amdt) SUI (56th Arndt) Bill Singh, Shri Bhanu Pratap Tewary, Prof. It K.

Singh, Shri D.C. Thakkar, Shrimati Usha

Singb, Shri K. N. Thara Devi,· Kumari 0.1<'

Singh, Shri Kamla Prasad Thomas, Porf. K. V.

Singh, Shri Krishna Pratap Thomas, Shri Thampan

Singh, Shri Lal Vijay Pratap Thorat, Shri Bhausaheb

Singh, Shri S.D. Thungon, Shri P. K.

Singh, Shri Santosh Kumar Tigga, Shri Simon

Singh Deo, Shri K. P. Tilakdhari Singh, Shri

Sinha, Shrimati Ram Dulari Tomar, Shrimati Usha Rani

Sodi, Shri Mankuram Tripathi, Dr. Chandra Shekhar

SoIanki, Shri Kalyan Singh Tyagi, Shri Dharamvir Singh

Sore", Shri Harihar Vairale, Shri Madhusudan

Sparrow, Shri R. S. Van, Shri Deep Narain

Sreen;vasa Prasad, Shri V. Vanakar, Shri Punam Chand Mithabhai

Subburaman, Shri A.C. Venicatesan, Shri P. R. S.

Sukh Ram, Shri Verma, Dr. C. S.

Sukhbuns Kaur, Shrimati Venna, Shrimati Usha

Sultanpuri, Shri K. D. Vijayaraghavan, Shri V.S

Suman, Shri R. P. Vir Sen, Shri

Sundararaj, Shri N. Vyas, Shri Girdhar1 LaI

Sunder Singh, Ch. Wasnik, Shri Mukul

Surendra Pal Singh, Shri Yadav, Shri Kailash

Suryawanshi, Shri NarDs Yadav, Shri Mahabir Prasad

Swami Prasad Singh, Shri Yadav, Shri R. N.

Swell, Shri G. G. Yadav, Shri Ram Singh

Tapeshwar Singh, Shri Yadav, Shri Shyam 1.aI

Tariq Anwar, Shri Yadav, Shri Vijoy Kumar 395 Constitution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution 396 (56th Arndt.) Bill (56th Arndt) Bill Yadava, Shri Bal Ram Singh Yopsh, Shri YoaeshWar Prasad

Yadava, Shri D. P. Zainal Abedin, Shri

Yashpal Singh, Shri Zainul Basller, Shri

Yazdani, Dr. Golam

NOES

jena, Shri Chintamani. Sharma, Shri Nand Kishore

(English] Clause 2 (Amendment of the heading of Part-XXII) MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: •• Subject to Correction, the result of the division is: MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Before 1 put Ayes: 339 clause 2 to the vote of the House, I would like to say that this being Constitution Noes: 2 (Amendment) Bill, voting has to be done by division .. The motion is carried by a majority of the total membership of the House and by The lobbies have already been cleared. a majority of not less than two-thirds of the Members present and voting. The question is:

The Motion was MODted. ''That clause 2 stand part of the Bill".

MR. DEPUlY-SPEAKER: We will now take up clause by clause consideration of the Bill. The Lok Sabha divided.

Division No.4] (16.00 hrs AYES Abbasi, Shri K. J Adaikalaraj, Shri L

Abdul Ghafoor, Shri AgalWal, Shri Jai Prakash

Abdul Hamiti, Shri Ahmad, Shri Sarfaraz

Acharia, Shri Basudeb Ahmad, Shrimati Abida • Wrongly voted for NOES •• The following Members also recorded their votes for AYES: S. Buta Singh., Sa..vashree iakshman Mallick, Chintamani Jena, Shrimati Jayanti Patnaik, Sarvashree Nand Kishore Shanna, Manikrao Hodlya Cavit, Ram Kumar Meena, Chiranjilal Shanna, Kamla Prasad Rawat, Col. Patel, C. S. Basavaraju, Dr. Datta Samant, Sarvashree K. Ramachandra Reddy, V. S. Krishna Iyer, Abdul Rashid Kabuli, Prof. Saifuddin Sot, Bhadreswar Tanti, Ataur • Rahman, MatiIaI Hansda, Raj MangaI Pandey and C. Janga Reddy. 397 Constitution -ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SNG4) Constitution 398 (56th Arndt) Bill (56th Arndt) Bill ~ Akhtar Hassan, Shri Bhuiia, Shri aileep Singh

Alkha Ram, Shri Sirbal, Shri

Anand Singh, Shri Birendra Singh, Rao

Anjiah, Shrimati Manemma Birinder Singh, Shri

Ansari, Shri Abdul Hannan Brahma Dutt, Shri

Ansari, Shri Z. R. Budania, Shri Narendra

Arjun Singh, Shri Bundela, Shri Sujan Singh

Arunachalam, Shri M. Buta Singh, S.

Athithan, Shri R. Dhanuskodi Chandrakar, Shri Chandulal

Awasthi, Shri Jagdish Chandrasekhar, Shrimati M.

Azad, Shri Bhagwat Jha Chandrashekharappa, Shri T.V.

Azad, Shri Ghulam Nabi Chandresh Kumari, Shrimati

Baghel, Shri Pratapsinh Chatterjee. Shri Somnath

**Bairagi, Shri Balkavi Chaturvedi, Shri Naresh Chandra

Baitha, Shri D.l. Chaturvedi, Shrimati Vidyavati

Balaraman, Shri l. Chaudhary, Shri Manphool Singh

Bali, Shrimati Vyjayanthimala Chavan, Shri Ashok Shankarrao

BanatwaJIa, Shri G. M. Chavan, Shrimati Premalabai

Banerjee, Kumari Mamata Chidambaram, Shri P.

Basavarajeswari, Shrimati Choudhari, Shrimati Usha

Bhagat, Shri H. K. L Choudhary, Shri Jagannath

Bhakta, Shri Manoranian Chowdhary, Shri Saifuddin

Bharat Singh, Shri Dabhi, Shri Ajitsinh

Bhoi, Dr. Krupasindhu Dalbir Singh, Shri

Bhoopathy, Shri C. Dalwai, Shri Hussain

Bhosale, Shri Prataprao B. Damor, Shri Somjibhai

Bhumij, Shri Haren Das, Shri Mad; Charan ··Voted from a wrong seal. 399 ConstICIItion NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution 400 (56th Arndt.) BiB (56th Amdt.) Bill 0., Shri Bipin Pal Chosal, Shri Debi

0., Sbri Sudarsan Chosh, Shri Simal Kanti

Das Munsi, Shri Priya Ranjan Ghosh, Shri TaNn Kanti

Dennis, Shri N. Cohil, Shri C.B.

Dea, Shri V. Kishore Chandra S. Comango, Shri Ciridhar

Deora, Shri Murli Coswami, Shri Dinesh

Dev, Shri Sontosh Mohan Gounder, Shri A.S.

Devi, Prof. Chandra Bhanu Gowda, Shri H.N. Nanje

Dhillon, Dr. C. S. Guha, Dr. Phulrenu

Digal, Shri Radhakanta Gupta, Shrimati Prabhawati

Dighe, Shri S~rad Halder, Prof. M.R.

Oigvijaya Singh, Shri Hansda, Shri Matital

Oikshit, Shrimati Sheila Harpal Smgh, Shn

Dinesh Singh, Shri Jadeja, Shri D. P.

Dogra, Shri C.L jagannath Prasad, Shri

Dongaonkar, Shri Sahebrao Patil jain, Shri Nihal Singh

Cube, Shn Bhisnma Deo Jainl Shri Virdhi Chander

Engti, Shri Biren Singh Jatav, Shri Kammodilal faleiro, Shri Eduardo Jayamohan, Shri A. fernandes,• Shri Oscar Jena., Shri Chintamani Gadhvi, Shri B. K. Jhansi lakshrrn, Shrimati N.P.

Gaekwad, Shri Ranjit Singh jhikram, Shri M. l.

Gamit, Shri C.D. Jitendra Prasada, Shn

Gandhi, Shri Rajiv Jiter¥ira Singh, Shri

Ganga Rfn' Shri Jujhar Singh, Shri Cehlot, Shri Ashok Kabuli, Shri Abdul Rashid

Cholap, Shri S.C. Kamal Nath, Shn

Chorpade, Shri M. Y. Kamal, Shri Curudas 401 ConstItution ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAICA) O:wtitution 402 (56th Amdt) 8111 (56th Arndt.) BiD Karnable, Shri Arvind Tulshiram Mahabir Prasad, Shri

Kamla Kuma';, Kumari Mahajan, Shri Y. S.

Kamson, Prof. MeijinNng Malik, Shri Oharampal Singh

Kaul, Shrimati Sheila Malik, Shri Puma Chandra

Kaushal, Shri Jagan Nath Mallick, Shri Lakshman

Ken, Shri Lala Ram Malviya, Shri Sapulal

KeyurBhushan,Shri Manorarna Singh, Shrimati

Khan, Shri Aslam Sher Manvendra Singh ShQ

Khan, Shri Mohd. Ayub Mavani, Shrimati Patel Ramaben Ramjibhai

Khan, Shri Rahim Mehta, Shri Haroobhai

Khattri, Shri Nirmal Meira Kumar, Shrimati

Khirhar, Shn R. S. '\\irdha, Shri Ram Niwas

Kidwai, Shrimati Mohsina Mishra, Shn C.S.

Kinder Lal, Shn Mishra, Dr. Prabhat Kumar

Kisku, Shn Prithvi Chand Mishra, Shn Ram Nagina

Knshna Kumar, Shn S. Mishra, Shri Shnpati

Krishna Smgh, Shn Mishra, Shrj Umakant

Kshn-sagar, Shrimatl Kesharbai Misra, Shri Nityananda

Kuctwl, Shri Gangadhar S. Modi, Shri Vishnu

Kujur, Shri Maurice Mohanty, Shri Bra,amohan

Kumaramangalam, Shri P. R. More, Prof. Ramknshna

Kunwar Ram, Shri Motilaf Singh, Shri

Kuppuswamy, Shn C. K. Mukherjee, Shrimati Ceeta

Kurien, Prof. P. J. Mundackal, Shri George Joseph

Kurup, Shn Suresh Murthy, Shri M. V. Chandrashekara

Law, Shri Asutosh Murty, Shri Bhattam Srirama lowang, Shri Wangpha Mushran, Shri Ajay

Madhuree Singh, Shrimati Naik, Shri Shantaram 403 ConstIIution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution 404 (56th AmdtJ BiB (56th Arndt.) Bill · NaiIcar, Shri 0.1(, Patil, Shri Veerendra

NamaYi'I, Shri P. Patil, Shri Vijay N.

Narayanan, Shri K R. Patil, Shri Vashwantrao Gadakh

Natwar Singh, Shri K. Patnaik, Shrimati Jayanti

Nawal Prabhakar, Shrimati Sunderwati Patnaik, Shri Jagannath

Neekhra, Shri Rameshwar Penchalliah, Shri P.

Odeyar, Shri Channaiah PeNman, Dr. P. Vallal

Oraon, Shrimati Sumati Poojary, Shri Janardhana

Pakeer Mohammed, Shri E. ,S. M Potdukhe, Shri Shantaram

Pandey, Shri Datnodar Prabhu, Shri R.

Pandey, Shri Madan Pradhan, Shri K. N.

Pandey, Shri Manoj Pradhani, Shri K.

Panigrahi, Shri Chintamani Prakash Chandra, Shri

Panpi, Shri Sriballav Puran Chandra, Shri

Panja, Shri A K. Purohit, Shri Banwari Lal

Pant, Shri K. C. Pushpa Devi, Kumari

Panwar, Shri Satyanarayan Qureshi, Shri Aliz

Parashar, Prof Narain Chand Raghuraj Singh, Chaudhary

Pardhi, Shri Keshaorao Rai, Shri Raj Kumar

Patel, Shri Ahmed M. Raj Karan Singh, Shri

Patel, Shri C. I. Rajeshwaran, Dr. V.

Patel, Shri Ram Pujan Rajhans, Dr. G. S.

Patel, Shri U. H. Raju, Shri Ananda Gajapathi

Pathak, Shri Chandra Kishore Raju, Shri Vijaya Kumar

Ram, Shri Ramswaroop

PatiI, Shri H .B. Ram Awadh Prasad, Shri

Pad, SIvi Prakash V. Ram Bahadur Singh, Shri

PadI, Shri Shivraj V. Ram Dhan, Shri 405 Constitution ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 ~) Constitution 406 (56th Amdt.) Bill (56th Arndt.) Bill Ram Prakash, Ch. Salt, Shri Azeez

Ram Samujhawan, Shri Sait, Shri Ebrahim Sulaiman

Ram Singh, Shri Sakargaym, Shri Kalicharan

Ramachandran, Shri Mullappally Salahuddin, Shri

Ramamurthy, Sllri K Sankhawar, Shri ~hkaran

Ramulu, Shri H. C. Sankata Prasad, Dr.

Ranganath, Shri K. H. Satyendra Chandra, Shri

Rao, Shri J. Chokka Sathe, Shri Vasant

Rao, Shri J.Vengala Sayeed, Shri P.M.

Rao, Shri K. S. Scindia, Shri Madhavrao

Rao, Shri P. V. Narasimha Sen, Shri Bholanath

Rao, Shri V. Krishna Sethi, Shri Ananta Prasad

Rao, Shri V. Sobhanadreeswara Sethi, Shri P.C.

Rath, Shri Somnath Shah, Shri Anoopchand

Rathawa, Shn Amarsinh Shahi, Shri laliteshwar

Rathod, Shri Uttam Shailesh, Dr. B. L

Raut, Shri Bhola Shaktawat, Prof. Ninnala Kumari

Ravani, Shri Navin Shankaranand, Shri B.

Rawat, Shri Kamla Prasad Shanmugam, Shri P.

Rawat, Shri Prabhu lal Shanna, Shri Chiranji Lal

Reddi, Shn C. Madhav Sharma, Shri Nand Kishore

Reddy, Shrt 'C. Janga Sharma, Shri Pratap Bhanu

Reddy, Shn K. Ramachandra Shastri, Shri Hari Krishna

Reddy, Shri M. Raghuma Shingda, Shri O. B.

Saha, Shri Ajit Kumar Shivendra Bahadur Singh, Shri

Saha, Shri Cadadhar Siddiq, Shri Hafiz Mohd.

Sahi, Shrimati Krishna Sidnal, Shri S. B.

Sahu, Shri Shiv Prasad Singh, Shri Bhanu Pratap 407 €Dnstitution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution 408 (S6th Amdt.) BiU (56th AmdtJ Bill SiAp, sr.ri O. G. Tewary, Prof. K. K.

Sing" Shri K. N. Thakkar, Shrimati Usha

Singh, Shri Kamla Prasad Thara Devi, Kumari D. K.

Singh, Silri Krishna Pratap Thomas, Prof. K. V.

Singh, Shri tal Vijay Pratap Thomas, Shri Thampan

Singh, Shri S. D. Thorat, Shri Bhausaheb

Singh, Shri Santosh Kumar Thungon, Shri P. K.

Singh Dea, Shri K. P. Tigga, Shri Simon

Sinha, Shrimati Ram Dulari Tilakdhari Singh, Shri

Sodi, Shri Mankuram Tomar, Shrimati Usha Rani

Solanki, Shri Kalyan Singh Tripathi, Dr. Chandra Shekha_

Soren, Shri Harihar Tyagi Shri Dharamvir Singh

Soz, Prof. Saifuddin Vairale, Shri Madhusudan

Sparrow, Shri R. S. Van, Shri Deep Narain

Sr~nivasa Prasad, Shri V. Vanakar, Shri Punam Chand Mithabhai

Subburaman, Shri A C. Venkate5iHl, Shri P. R. S.

Sukh Ram, Shri Verma, Dr. C.S.

Sukhbuns Kaur, Shrimati Verma, Shrimati Usha

Sultanpuri, Shri K. D. Vijayaraghavan, Shri V. S.

Suman, Shri R. P. Vir Sen, Shri

Sundararaj, Shri N. Vyas, Shri Girdhari Lal

Sunder Singh, Ch. Wasnik, Shri Mukul

Surendra Pal Singh, Shri Yadav, Shri Kailash

Suryawanshi, Shri Narsing Yadav, Shri Mahabir Prasad

Swami Pr.ISad Singh, Shri Yadav, Shri R. N.

Swell, Shri C. C. Yadav, Shri Ram Singh

Tapeshwar Singh, Shri Yadav, Shri Shyam Lal

Tariq Anwar, Sflri Yadav, Shri Vijoy Kumar Constitution AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAM) Constitution 410 (56th AnKit.) Bill (56th Amdt) Bill Vadava, Shri Bal Ram Singh YOSesh, Shri Yogeshwar Prasad

Yadava, Stui D.P. Zainal Abedin, Shri

Yashpal Singh, Shri Zainul Basher, Shri

Yazdani, Dr. Golam

NOES--Nil

MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: ** Subject to Page 2, line 3,- correction, the result of the division is: for "Hindi language" substitute-- Ayes: 349 languages specified in thE' Eighth NOes: Nil Schedule to the ConstibJtion" (5)

The motion is carried by a MajOrity of Page 2, line 12,- the total membership of the House and by a majority of not less than two-thirds of the for "Hindi language" substitute-- members Present and voting. "languages specified in the Eighth The motion was adopted Gause 2 was Schedule to the Constitution" (6) Added to the Bill. SHRI THAMPAN TI-tOM;45: I beg to move: Clause-l (Insertion of New Article 394A) Page 1, line 16,- SHRI P. KOLANDAIVElU: I beg to move; for '(Hindi language" Substitute--

1, 13,- Page line II regional languages" (4)

after IIAssembly" 16.00 Ius.

insert II and in the languages specified in the Eighth Schedule to SHRI P. KOLANDAIVElU: With re- the Con$litution," (2) gard to my amendments, I would like to say that fifteen of the Ind;an languages have already been recognized in the Eighth Page 1, line 16,- Schedule of the Constitution. So, they must be given equal importance and ~I status for "Hindi language" along with Hindi. When the translation is coming forth for the Constitution in Hindi, Substitute IIlanguages specified in other languages should also get the same the Eighth, Schedule to the treatment and the Constitution should also Constitution" (3)

•• The following members also recorded their votes for AYES:

Sarvashree Manikrao Hodlya Cavit, T. Sala Good, C. S. Basavaraju, Oal Chander Jain, Dr. Oatta Samant, Sarvashree lal Duhoma, Murtidhar Mane, V. S. Krishna Iyer, Bhadreswar Tanti, Ataur Rahman, Ramashray Prasad Singh and Raj Mangal Pandey. 411 C'«Istitution NOVEMBER 24, 1981 Constitution 412 . (56th Arndt.) Bill (56th Amdt.) Bill iShri P. KoIandaWIu) StiRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (Bankura): be translated in other languages. That is my When you are bringing a legislation for the point. Hindi language, why can't you bring a legislation for other regional languages SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: Sir, when also? we have any discussion in any forum, one must have a proper authority. Therefore, an (Interruptions) authoritative description of the I Constitution Should be available in the SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI: You language which is spoken in the area for must write to the Centre for this. the purpose of proper explanation. Though I can very well speak in my own language, (Interruptions) you will not be able to understand. SHRI P. KOlANDAIVElU: You give an •• I can Speak well in chaste assurance for other languages also. MaIayaIam. (Interruptions) t;onsldering • the Ulnerent situations p~ailins in the country, we must I1avJ SHRI CH INTAMAN I PANIGRAHI: Four anangement to speak in all the languages. State Governments of Hindi-speaking areas h;lve written to the Central Govemment However important a point may be, but already for use of Hindi in their High unWss you understand it, it is of no use. courts. Half a dozen of people alone will understand it. So. in the same manner. very (Interruptions) many people like me are there in our country. They should also know as to what MR. DEPUlY-SPEAKER: No interruptions the Constitution is. That is why I press my please. Shall I put the amendments moved amendment and say that the constitution by Shri Kolandaivelu to the vote of the should also be translated into the regional House? languages. I' am expressing that in good faith. The question is ....

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINI- SOME HON. MEMBERS: We want STRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI CH INT A- division on the amendments. MANI PANIGRAHI): Sir, there is no bar in that; we have already translated the Consti- (Interruptions) tution into 12 regional languages. If any State Government wants that..the constitu- SHRJ B: SHANKARANAND (Chikkodi): tion should be translated in their regional There yn be division only on one language, they should write to the specified amendment. You cannot have division on authority and on the authority of the Presi- all the amendments. dent it can be translated into the regional language. (Interruptions)

(Interruptions) SHRI P. KOlANDAIVElU: I am not pressing for a division; I am pressing only SHRI DINESH COSWAMI (Cuwahati): for the voice vote. ~ translation will be there, but the legal 'iaAdity ~ authentication will nQt be (Interruptions) tIiere. So, why don't you bring a law for the purpose? MR DEPUlY-SPEAKER: On which (InterrtJptioni) amendment do you want a division.

•• Spoke in Malayalam. 413 Constitution ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) . Constitution 414 (56th Arndt) Bill (56th Amdt) Bill SHRI G. M. BANATWAlLA (Ponnani~ I MR. DEPUTY SPEAKl:K: tor tne resultS insist that it should be by division. I have a only they are objecting, that is all. right to ask because it ;s the property of the House. The question is:

(Interruptions) "P~ge 1, line 13,- after IiAssembly" ) MR... DEPUlY SPEAKER: Please take your seat, Mr. Banatwalla.. I wanted to know Insert and in the languages specified in from Mr. Kolandaivelu. There are four the Eighth Schedule to the constitution," amendments given by him. I said that I (2) . would first put them to the voice vote and if the mover wants, then only I will put "page 1, line 16,- them for division. At that time nobody for "Hindi language" objected. Now regarding results, you are objecting. Therefore, I want to k.now Substitute languages specified in the whether he wants me to put each Eighth schedule to the Constitution amendment separately for division or all (3) the four amendments together. "pate 2, line 3,- for IHindi language' substitute..

SOME HON. MEMBERS: All the four lan_guages specified in the Eighth together Sir. Sched"'le to the Constitution,'" (5)

SH RI B. SHAN KARANAN D: Mr. Deputy "Page 2, line 12, Speaker, Sir, the mover of the amendment for 'Hindi IaQguage' sUbstitute-- has to say that he wants division on a particular motion or amendment. Mr. 'languages specified in the Eighth Kolandaivelu is not pressing for any Schedule to the Constitution," (6) division, then I don't now what is the problem. The Lok Sabha Divided:

Division No.5] [16.09 hrs.

AYES

Abdul Hamid, Shri Hansda, Shri Matilal

ACharia, ShriBasudeb Janarthanan, Shn Kadambur

Annanambi, Shri R. Jhansl lakshmi, Shrimati N.P.

Banatwalla, Shri G. M. Kurup, Shri Suresh

Chatterjee, Shri Somnath Malik, Shri Purna Chandra

Chowdhary, Shri Saifuddln Mukherjee, Shrimati Geeta

Deo, Shri V. Kishore Chandra S. Murty, Shri Bhattam Srirama

Goswami, Shri Dinesh • Natwar Singh, Shri K. Wrongly voted for AYES. 415 a..stilution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution 416 f56th Arndt) Bill (56th "Arndt.) Bill • ,ateI, Shri C.I. Reddy, Shri M. Raghuma

• Patnaik, Shrirnati 1ayanti Saha, Shri Ajit Kumar

Penchalliah, Shri P. Saha, Shri Cadadhar

Raju, Shri Ananda Cajapathi Sait, Shri Ebrahim Sulaiman

Raju, Shri Vijaya Kumar Sankhawar, Shri Ashkaran

Ram, Bahadur Singh, Shri Selvendran, Shri P. bo, Shri V. Sobhanadreeswara Shanmugam, Shri AC.

Reddi, Shri C. Madhav Zainal Abedin, Shri

Reddy, Shri K~machandra

NOES Abbasi, Shri K.J. Baghel, Shri Pratapsinh

Abdul Chafoor, Shri Bairagi, Shri Balkavi

Adaikalaraj, Shri L Baitha, Shri D.L.

Agarwal, Shri Jai Prakash Bala Good, Shri T.

Ahmad, Shri Sarfaraz Balaraman, Shri L.

Ahmed, Shrimati Abida Bali, Shrimati Vyjayanthimala

Akhtar Hasan, Shri Basavarajeswari, Shrimati

Alkha Ram, Shri Bhagat, Shri H. K.l.

Anand Singh, Shri Sharat Singh, Shri

Ansari, Shri Abdul Hannan Shoi, Dr. Krupasindhu

Ansari, Shri Z. R. Shosale, Shri Prataprao B.

Arjun Singh, Shri Bhumij, Shri Haren

"Arunachalam, Shri M. Bhuria, Shri Dileep Singh

Athithan, Shri R. Dhanuskodi Sirbal, Shri

Awasthi, Shri Jagdish Birendra Singh, Rao

Azad, Shri Bhagwat Jha Birinder Singh, Shri

Azad, Shri Chulam Nabi Brahma Dutt, Shri .

• Wrongly voted for AYES. " 417 ConstItutIon ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (.sAM) unotuDon 418 (56th Arndt) Bill . flV;th ¥) Bill Budania, Shri Narendnf Digvijaya Singh, Shri

Bundela, Shri Sujan Singh Dikshit, Shrirnati Sheila

Btlta Singh, S. Dinesh Singh, Shri

Chandrakar, Shri t,Chandulal Dogra, Shri G.L

Chandrasekhar, Shrimati M. Dongaonkar, Shri Sahebrao Patil

Chandrashekharappa, Shri T.V. Dube, Shri Bhishma [)et)

Chandresh Kumari, Shrimati Engti, Shri Biren Singh

Chaturvedi, Shrimati Vidyavati Faleiro, Shri Eduardo

Chauan, Shri Ashok Shan~rrao Fernandes, Shri Oscar

Chavan, Shrimati Premalabai Gadhvi, Shri B. K:

Chidambaram, Shri P. Gaekwad, Shri Ranjit Singh

Choudhari, Shrimati Usha Gamit, Shri C.D.

Choudhary, Shri Jagannath Gandhi, Shri Rajiv

Dabhi, Shri Ajitsinl) Canga Ram, Shri

Dalbir Singh, Shri Cavit, Shri Manikrao Hodlya

Dalwai, Shri Hussain Gehlot, Shri Ashok

Damor, Shri Somjibhai Gholap, Shri S.C.

Das, Shri Anadi Charan Ghosal, Shri Debi

Das, Shri Bipin Pal Ghosh, Shri Bimal Kanti

Das, Shri Sudarsan Chosh, Shri Tarun Kanti

Das Munsi, Shri Priya Ranjan Cohil, Shri C. B.

Dennis, Shri N. Gomango, Shri Ciridhar

Deora, Shri Murli Counder, Shri A.S.

Dev, Shri Sontosh Mohan Guha, Dr. Phulrenu

Dhillon, Dr. C.S. Cupta, Shrimati Pra~wati

Digal, Shri Radhakanta Halder, Prof. M.R.

Dighe, Shri Sharad Harpal Singh, Shri

Disvijay Sinh, Shri Jadeja, Shri D. P. 419 Constitution NOVEMB!R 24, 1987 Constitution 420 (56th Amdt.) Bill (56th Amdt.) Bill Japnnath Prasad, Shri Krishna Singh, Shri

Jain, Shri Nihal Singh Kshirsagar, Shrimati Kesharbai

Jain, Shri Virdhi Chander Kuchan, Shri Gangadhar S.

Jayamohan, Shri A. Kujur, Shri Maurice

Jena, Shri Chintamani Kumaramangalam, Shri P.R.

Jhikram, Shri M.L Kunwar Ram, Shri

Jitendra Prasada, Shri Kuppuswamy, Shn C.K.

Jitendra Singh, Shri Kurien, Prof. P.J.

Jujhar Singh, Shri law, Shri Asutosh

Kabuli, Shri Abdul Rashid lowang, Shri Wangpha

Kamal Nath, Shri Madhuree Singh, Shrimati

Kamat, Shri Gurudas Mahabir Prasad, Shri

Kamble, Shri Arvind Tulshiram Mahajan, Shri Y.S.

Kamla Kumari, Kumari Malik, Shri Dharampal Singh

Kamson, Prof. Meijinlung Mallick, Shri lakshman

Kaul, Shrimati Sheila Malviya, Shri Bapulal

Kaushal, Shri Jagan Nath Mane, Shri Murlidhar

Ken, Shri Lala Ram Manorama Singh, Shrimati

Keyur Shushan, Shri Manvendra Smgh, Shn

Khan, Shri Aslam Sher Mavani, Shnmati Patel Ramaben Ramjibhai

Khan, Shri Mohd. Ayub Meena, Shrj Ram Kumar

Khan, Shri Rahim Mehta, Shri Haroobhal

Khattri, Shri Nirmal Meira Kumar, Shrimati

Khirhar, Shri R.S. Mirdha, Shri Ram Niwas

Kidwai, Shrimati Mohsina Mishra, Shri C.S.

Kinder Lal, Shri Mishra, Dr. Prabhat Kumar

Kisku, Shri Prithvi Chand Mishra, Shri Ram Nagina

Krishna Kumar, Shri S. Mishra, Shri Shripati 421 Constitution AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAIV\) Constitution 422 (56th Arndt) Bill (56th Amdt.) Bill Mishra, Shri Umakant Patel, Shri U.H.

Modi, Shri Vishnu Pathak, Shri Chandra Kishore

Mohanty, Shri 8rajamohan Patil, Shri Balasaheb Vikhe

More, Prof. Ramkrisbna Patil, Shri H.B.

Motilal Singh, Shri Patil, Shri Prakash V.

Mundackal, Shri George Joseph Patil, Shri Shivraj V.

Murthy, Shri M.V. Chandrashekara Patil, Shri Veerendra

Mushran, Shri Ajay Patil, Shri Vijay N.

Naik, Shri Shantaram Patil, Shri Yashwantrao Gadakh

Naikar, Shrj O.K. Pattnaik, Shri Jagannath

Namgyal, Shri P. Peru man, Dr. P. Vallal

Narayanan, Shri K. R. Poojary, Shri Janardhana

Nawal Prabhakar, Shrimati Sunderwati Potdukhe, Shri Shantaram

Neekhra, Shri Rameshwar Prabhu, Shri R.

Odeyar, Shn Channalah Pradhan, Shri K N.

Oraon, Shrimati Sumati Pradhana, S~ K

Pande, Shn Raj Mangal Prakash Chandra, Shrj

Pandey, Shri Damodar Puran Chandra, Shri

Pandey, Shri ManoJ Purohit, Shrj Banwari lal

Pamgrahi, Shrj Chintamana Pushpa Devi, Kumari

Panigrahl, Shrj Sriballav Qureshi, Shri Aziz

Panika, Shri Ram Pyare Raghuraj Singh, Chaudhary

Panja, Shri A.K. Ral, Shn Raj Kumar

Pant, Shrj K.C. Raj Karan Singh, Shri

Panwar, Shri Satyanarayan Rajeshwaran, Dr. V.

Parashar, Prof. Narain Chand Rajhans, Dr. C.S.

Pardhi, Shri Keshaorao Ram, Shri Ramswaroop

Patel, Shrj Ahmed M. Ram Awadh Prasad, Shri 423 Constitution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution 424 (56th Arndt.) Bill (56th Arndt) Bill Ram Dhan, Shri Scindia, Shri Madhavrao

Ram Prakash, Ch. Sen, Shri Bholanath

Ram Samujhawan, Shri Sethi, Shri Manta Prasad

Ramachandran, Shri Mullappally Sethi, Shri P.C.

Ramamurthy, Shri K. Shah, Shri AnoopGhand

Ramashray Prasad Singh, Shri Shah, Shri Laliteshwar

Ramulu, Shri H.C. Shaktawat, Prof. Ninnala Kumari

Ranganath, Shri K. H. Shankaranand, Shri B. kao, Shri J. Chokka Shanmugam, Shri P. haO, Shri J. Vengala Shanna, Shri Chiranji Lal bo, Shri P. V. Narasimha Shanna, Shri Nand Kishore

Rao, Shri V. Krishna Shanna, Shri Pratap Bhanu

Rath, Shri Somnath Shastri, Shri Hari Krishna

Rathawa, Shri Amar Singh Shingda, Shri O.B.

IQthod, Shri Uttam Shivendra Bahadur Singh, Shri

Raut, Shri Bhola Siddiq, Shri Hafiz Mohd.

Ravani, Shri Navin Sidnal, Shri S.B.

Rawat, Shri Kamla Prasad Singh, Shri D.C.

Rawat, Shri Prabhu Lal Singh, Shri K. N.

Reddy, Shri C. Janga Singh, Shri Kamla Prasad

I Sahi, Shrimati Krishna Singh, Shri Krishna Pratap

Sait, Shri Azeez Singh, Shri lal Vijay Pratap

Sakargaym, Shri Kalicharan Singh, Shri S. D.

Salahuddin, Shri Singh, Shri Santosh Kumar

Sankata Prasad, Dr. Singh Deo, Shri K.P.

Satyendra Chandra, Shri Sinha, Shrimati Ram OUlari .I Sathe, Shri Vasant Sodi, Shri Mankuram·

Sayeed, Shri P.M. Solanki, Shri Kalyan Singh 425 Constitution AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Constitution 426 (56th Amdt.) Bill (56th Arndt) 8i// Soren, Shri Harihar Tomar, Shrimati Usha Rani

Sparrow, Shri R.S. Tripathi, Or. Chandra Shekhar

Sreenivasa Prasad, Shri V. Tyagi, Shri Dharamvir Singh

Subburaman, Shri A.C. Vairale, Shri Madhusudan

Sukh Ram, Shri Vanakar, Shri Punam Chand Mitl.abhai

Sukhbuns Kaur, Shrimati Venkatesan, Shri P.R.S.

Sultanpuri, Shri K. D. Verma, Dr. C.S.

Suman, Shri R. P. Verma, Shrimati Usha

Sundararaj, Shri N. Vijayaraghavan, Shri V.S.

Sunder Singh, Ch. Vyas, Shri Girdhari Lal

Surendra Pal Singh, Shri Wasnik, Shri Mukul

Suryawanshi, Shri Narsing fadav, Shri Kailash

<\wami Prasad Singh, Shri

Swell, Shri C.C. Yadav, Shri Mahabir Prasad

Tapeshwar Singh, Shri Yadav, Shri R.N.

Tariq Anwar, Shri Yadav, Shri Ram Singh

Tewary, Prof. K K. Yadav, Shri Shyam Lal

Thakkar, Shrimati Usha Yadav, Shri Vijoy Kumar

Thara Devl, Kumari D. K. Yadava, Shri Bal Ram Sing

Thomas, Prof. K. V. Yadava, Shri D.P.

Thorat, Shri Bhausaheb Yashpal Singh, Shri

Thungon, Shri P. K. yazdani, Dr. Colam

Tigga, Shri Simon Yogesh, Shri Yogeshwar Prasad

Tilakdhari Singh, Shri Zainul Basher, Shri 427 COn~don NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution 428 (56th Arndt.) Bill (56th Arndt.) Bill {Eng/ish] SOME HON. MlMBERS: No.

MR. DE PUTYtSPEAKER: ** Subject to MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: I think the Noes correction, the result of the divisip.!, is: have it, the Noes have it. Ayes: 33 SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: No Sir, Ayes Noes: 305 have it. I want division. The motion was negatived. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The question MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I shall now put is: the amendment moved by Shri Thampan Thomas to the vote of the House. Those in favour may say Aye. "Page 1, line 16,-

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye for "Hindi language" substitute-- "regional language" (4) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKEk: I nose against may say No. The Lok Sahba divided:

Division No.6] [16.11 hrs. AYES

Abdul Hamid, Shri Raju, Shri Ananda Gajapathi Acharia, Shri Basudeb Raju, Shri Vijaya Kumar Ataur Rahman, Shri Ram Bahadur Singh, Shri Bhoopathy, Shri C. Rao, Shri V. Sobhanadreeswara Chatterjee, Shri Somnath Reddi, Shri C. Madhav Chowdhary, Shri Saifuddin Reddi, Shri C. Janga Deo, Shri V. Kishore Chandra S. Reddy, Shri K Ramachandra Goswami, Shri Dinesh Reddy, Shri M. Raghuma Hansda, Shri Matilal Saha, Shri Ajit Kumar Janarthanan, Shri Kadambur Saha, ShriGadadgar Jhansi Lakshmi, Shrimati N. P. Selvendran, Shri P. Kabuli, Shri Abdul Rashid -Sodi, Shri Mankuram Krup, Shri Suresh Soz, Prof. Saifuddin Malik, Shri Puma Chandra -Tanti, Shri Bhadreswar *Manvendra Singh, Shri Thomas, Shri Thampan Murty, Shri Bhattam Srirama Zainal Abedin, Shri Penchalliah, Shri P. NOES

Abbasi, Shri K.J. Agarwal, Shri Jai Prakash

Adaikalaraj, Shri L Ahmad, Shri Sarfaraz * Wrongly voted for AYES. *. 'The following Members also recorded their votes: AYES: Dr. Datta Samant, Shri C. Bhoopathyand Shri Thimpan Thomat. NOES: Shri K. Natwar Singh, Shrimati Jayanti 'Patnaik, Sarvashree Manoranjan Bhakta, E.S.M. Pakeer Mohamed, C. I. Patel, Bhanu Pratap Singh, Vir Sen, Deep Narain Van, Madan Pandey, C. S. Basavaraju, Oaf Chander Jain, M. Y. G~orpade, H. N. Nanje Gowda, lal Duhoma, Naresh Chandra Chaturvedi, Ram Pujan Patel and Bhadreswar Tanti. 429 Constitution AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAIV\) Constitution 430 (56th Arndt) Bill (56th Arndt.) Bill Ahmed, Shrimati Abida Birendra Singh, Rao

Akhtar Hasan, Shri Birinder Singh, Shri

Alkha Ram, Shri Budania, Shri Narendra

Anand Singh, Shri Bundela, Shri Sujan Singh

Anjiah, Shrimati Manemma Buta Singh, S.

Ansari, Shri Abdul Hannan Chandrasekhar, Shrimati M.

Ansari, Shri Z. R. Chandrashekharappa, Shri T.V.

Arjun Singh, Shri Chandresh Kumari, Shrimati

Arunachalam, Shri M. Chaturvedi, Shri Naresh Chandra

Athithan, Shri R. Dhanuskodi Chaturvedi, Shrimati Vidyavati

Awasthi, Shri Jagdish Chaudhary, Shri Manphool Singh

Azad, Shri Bhagwat Jha Chauan, Shri Ashok Shankarrao

Azad, Shri Ghulam Nab; Chavan, Shrimati Premalabai

Baghel, Shri Pratapsinh Chidambaram, Shri P.

Bairagi, Shri Balkavi Choudhari, Shrimati Usha

Baitha, Shri D.L. Choudhary, Shri Jagannath

Balaraman, Shri L Dabhi, Shri Ajitsinh

Bali, Shrimati Vyjayanthimala Dalbir Singh, Shri

Banerjee, Kumar; Mamata Dalwai, Shri Hussain

Basavarajeswari, Shrimati Damor, Shri Somjibhai

Bhabal, Shri H. K.l. Das, Shri Anadi Charan

Bhakta, Shri Manoranjan Das, Shri Sip;n Pal

Bharat Singh, Shri Das, Shri Sudarsan

Bhoi, Dr. Krupasindhu Das Munsi, Shri Priya .RanJan

Bhosale, Shri Prataprao B. Dennis, Shri N.

Bhumij, Shri Haren Deora, Shri Murli

Bhuria, Shri Dileep Singh Dev, Shri Sontosh Mohan

Birbal, Shri Devi, Prof. Chandra Bhanu 431 ConstitutIon NOVEMBER2~, 1987 Constitution 432 (56th Arndt) Bill (56th Amdt.) Bill DhiHon, Dr. c.s. Gowda, Shri H.N. Nanje

Digal, Shri Radhakanta Guha, Dr. Phulrenu

Dighe, Shri Sharad Gupta, Shrimati Prabhawati

Oigvijay Sinh, Shri Halder, Prof. M. R.

Digvijaya Singh, Shri Harpal Singh, Shri

Dikshit, Shrimati Sheila jadeja, Shri D.P.

Oinesh Singh, Shri jagannath Prasad, Shri

Dogra, Shri C.L jagathrakshakan, Dr. S.

Dongaonkar, Shri Sahebrao Patil jain, Shri Dal Chander

Oube, Shri Bhishma Deo jain, Shri Nihal Singh

Engti, Shri Biren Singh jain, Shri Virdhi Chander

faleiro, Shri Eduardo jatav, Shri Kammodilal

Fernandes, Shri Oscar Jayamohan, Shri A

Cadhv;, Shri B. K. Jena, Shri Chintamani

Gaekwad, Shri Ranjit Singh Jhikram, Shri M.L

Camit, Shri C.D. jitendra Prasada, Shri

Gandhi, Shri Rajiv J;tendra Singh, Shri

Ganga Ram, Shri Jujhar Singh, Shri

Gavit, Shri Manikrao Hodlya Kamal Nath, Shri

Cehlot, Shri Ashok Kamat, Shri Gurudas

ChoIap, Shri S.C. Kamble, Shri Arvind Tulshiram

Chorpade, Shri M.Y. Kamla Kumari, Kumari

Chosal, Shri Debi Kamson, Prof. Meijinlung

Ghosh, Shri Bimal Kanti Kaul, Shrimati Sheila

Chosh, Shri TaNn Kanti Kaushal, Shri Jagan Nath

Cohil, Shri C.B. Ken, Shri Lala Ram

Coman80, Shri Ciridhar KeyurBhushan,Shri

Counder, Shri AS. Khan, Shri Aslam Sher 433 Oonstitution ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAIV\) Constitution 434 {56th Arndt.) Bill (56th Arndt.) Bill Khan, Shri Mohd Avub Meena, Shri Ram Kumar

Khan, Shri Rahim Mehta, Shri Haroobhai

Khattri, Shri Ninnal Meira Kuma~, Shrimati

Khirhar, Shri R.S. Mirdha, Shri Ram Niwas

Kidwai, Shrimati Mohsina Mishra, Shri G.S.

Kinder Lal, Shri Mishra, Dr. Prabhat Kumar

Kisku, Shri Prithvi Chand Mishra, Shri Ram Nagina

Krishna Kumar, Shri S. Mishra, Shri Shripati

Krishna Singh, Shri Mishra, Shri Umakant

Kshirsagar, Shrimati Kesharbai Misra, Shri Nityananda

Kuchan,ShriGangadhar Modi, Shri Vishnu

Kujur, Shri Maurice Mohanty, Shri Brajamohan

Kumaramangalam, Shri P. R. More, Prof. Ramkrishna

Kunwar Ram, Shri Motilal Singh, Shri

IWppuswamy, Shri C. K Mundackal, Shri George Joseph

KlIrien, Prof. P.J. Murthy, Shri M.V. Chandrashekara

Lal Duhoma, Shri Mushran, Shri Ajay

Law, Shri Mutosh Naik, Shri Shantaram lowang, Shri Wangpha Namgyal, Shri P.

Madhuree Singh, Shrimati Narayanan, Shri KR.

Mahabir Prasad, Shri Natwar Singh, Shn K

Maha;an, Shri Y.S. Nawal Prabhakar, Shrimati Sunde~clti

Malik, Shri Oharampal Singh Neekhra, Shri Rameshwar

Mallick, Shri Lakshman Odeyar, Shri Channaiah

Malviya, Shri Bapulal Oraon, Shrimati Sumati

Mane, Shri Murlidhar Pakeer Mohamed Shri E.S.M.

Manorama Singh, Shrimati Pande, Shri Raj Mangal

Mavani, Shrimati Patel Ramaben Ramjibhai Pandey, Shri o.nodar 435 Constitution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution 436 (56th Amdt) Bill (56th Arndt.) Bill Pandey,Shri"'dan Pradhani, Shri K

Pandey, Shri Manoj Prakash Chandra, Shri

Panigrahi, Shri Chintamani Puran Chandra, Shri

Panigrahi, Shri Sriballav Purohit, Shri Banwari lal

Paniica, Shri Ram Pyare Pushpa Devi, Kumari

Panja, Shri A. K Qureshi, Shri Aziz

Pant, Shri KC. Raghuraj Singh, Chaudhary

Panwar, Shri Satyanarayan Rai, Shri Raj Kumar

Parashar, Prof. Narain Chand ~aj Karan Singh, Shri

Pardhi, Shri Keshaorao t1jeshwaran, Dr. V.

Patet Shri Ahmed M. Rajhans, Dr. C.S.

Patel, Shri C.I. Ram, Shn Ramswaroop

Patel, Shri Ram Pujan Ram Awadh Prasad, Shri

Patel, Shri U.H. Ram Dhan, Shri

Pathak, Shri Chandra Kishore Ram Prakash, Ch.

Patil, Shri Balasaheb Vikhe Ram Samujhawan, S"'''"I

Patil, Shri H.B Ram Singh, Shri

Patil, Shri Prakash V. Ramachandran, Shri Mullappally

Patil, Shri Shivraj V. Ramamurthy, Shn K.

""til, Shri Veerendra Ramashray Prasad Singh, Shri

Patil, Shri Vijay N. Ramulu, Shri H.C.

Patil, Shri Yashwantrao Gadakh Ranganath, Shri K. H.

Pattnaik, Shri Jagannath Rao, Shri J. Chokka

Peru man, Dr. P. Vallal Rao, Shri J. Vengala

Poojary, Shri Janardhana Rao, Shri P. V. Narasimha

Potdukhe, Shri Shantaram Rao, Shri V. Krishna

Prabhu, Shri R. Rath, Shri Somnath

Pradhan, Shri KN. Rathawa, Shri Amarsinh 437 Consi..:ution AGRAHAYANA 3; 1909 (SAIV\) Constitution 438 (56th Arndt.) Bill (56th Arndt) Bill Rathod, Shri Uttam Shastri, Shri Hari Krishna

Raut, Shri Bhola Shingda, Shri O.B.

Ravani, Shri Navin Shivendra Bahadur Singh, Shri

I, Rawat, Shri Kamla Prasad Siddiq, Shri Hafiz Mohd.

Rawat, Shri Prabhu Lal Sidnal, Shri S.B.

Sahi, Shrimati Krishna Singh, Shri D.C.

Sahu, Shri Shiv Prasad Singh, Shri K. N.

Sait, Sho Azeez Singh, Shri Kamla Prasad

Sakargaym, Shri Kalicharan Singh, Shri Krishna Pratap

Salahuddin, Shri Singh, Shri Lal Vijay Pratap

Sankhawar, Shri Ashkaran Singh, Shri S.D.

Sa;lkata Prasad. Dr. Singh, Shri Santosh Kumar

Satyendra Chandra, Shn Singh Deo, Shri K.P.

Sathe, Shri Vasant Sinha, Shrimati Ram Dulari

Sayeed, Shri P.M. Solanki, Shri Kalyan Singh

Scindia, Shri Madhavrao Soren, Shri Harihar

Sen, Shri Bholanath Sparrow, Shri R.S.

Sethi, Shri Ananta Prasad Sreenivasa Prasad, Shri V.

Sethi, Shri p.e. Subburaman, Shri A.C.

Shah, ShriAnoopchand Sukh Ram, Shri

Shahi, :;hri Laliteshwar Sukhbuns Kaur, Shrimati

Shailesh, Dr. S.l. Sultanpuri, Shr; K. D.

Shaktawat, Prof. Nirmala Kumari Suman, Shri R. P.

Shankaranand, Shri B. Sundararaj, Shri N.

Shanmugam, Shri P. Sunder Singh, Ch.

Sharma, Shri Chiranji Lal Surendra Pal Singh, Shri

Sharma, Shri Nand Kishore Suryawanshi, Shri Narsing

Sharma, Shri Pratap Bhanu Swami Prasad Singh, Shri 439 Constitution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution 440 (56th Amdt..) Bill (56th Nndt.) Bill Swell, Shri G.G. Vemla, Dr. C~S.

Tapeshwar Singh, Shri Verma, Shrimati Usha

Tariq Anwar, Shri Vijayaraghavan, Shri V.S.

Tewary, Prof. K. K. Vir Sen, Shri

Thakkar, Shrimati Usha Vyas, Shri Girdhari Lal

Thara Devi, Kumari 0.1<. Wasnik, Shri Mukul

Thomas, Prof. K. V. Yadav, Shri Kailash

Thorat, Shri Bhausaheb Yadav, Shri Mahabir Prasad

Thungon, Shri P. K. Yadav, Shri R.N.

ligga, Shri Simon Yadav, ~hri Ram Singh

Tilakdhari Singh, Shri Yadav, Shri Shyam Lal

Tomar, Shrimati Usha Rani Yadav, Shri Vijoy Kumar

Tripathi, Dr. Chandra Shekhar Yadava, Shri Bal Ram Singh

Tyagi, Shri Dharamvir Sin2h Yadava, Shri D.P.

Vairale, Shri Madhusudan Yashpal Singh, Shri

Van, Shri Deep Narain Yazdani, Dr. Colam

Vanakar, Shri Punam Chand Mithabhai Yogesh, Shri Yogeshwar Prasad

Venbtesan, Shri P.R.S. .,.ainul Basher, Shri

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: .- Subject to .l.ik~ to say that this being a' Constitution mrrection, the result of the division is: (Amendment) Bill, voting has to be by di· Aves:1l3 vision. Now, the lobbies have already been Noes:820 cleared.

The motion was negatived The question is: "That clause 3 c;tand part of the Bill." MR. Ut:PUlY SPEAKER: Before I put I"Iause 3 to the vote of the· House. I would The Lok Sabha Divided:

•• The following Members also recorded their votes:

AYES: Dr. Datta Samant and Shri V.S. Krishna Iyer

NOES: Shri Brahma Dutt, Shrimati Jayanti Patnaik, Sarvashree Abdul Ghafoor, D. K. Naikar T. &ala Coud, Mankuram Sodi, Manvendra Singh and Bhardreswar Tanti. 441 Constitution AC::MHAVANA3, 1909~) Constitution 442 (56th Arndt.) 8ill (56th Arndt) Bill Division No. 7] (16. 14 hrs.

Abbasi, Shri K.J. Balaraman, Shri L

Abdul Ghafoor, Shri Bali, Shrimati Vyjaya",himala

Achiria, Shri Basudeb Banatwalla, Shri C.M.

Adaikalaraj, Shri L. Banerjee, Kumari Mamata

Agarwal, Shri Jai Prakash Basavarajeswari, Shrimati

Ahmad, Shri Sarfaraz Bhagat, Shri H. K. L

Ah~ed, Shrimati Abida Bhakta, Shri Manoranjan

Akhtar Hassan, Shri Bharat Singh, Shri

Alkha Ram, Shri Bhoi, Dr. Krupasindhu

Anand Singh, Shri Bhoopathy, Shri G.

Anjiah, Shrimati Manemma Bhosle, Shri Prataprao B.

Ansari, Shri Abdul Hannan Bhumij, Shri Haren

Ansari, Shri Z. R. Bhuria, Shri Dileep Singh

Arjun Singh, Shri Birbal, Shri

Arunachalam, Shri M. Birendra Singh, Rao

Ataur Rahman, Shri Birinder Singh, Shri

Awasthi, Shri Jagdish Brahma Dutta, Shri

Azad, Shri Bhagwat Jha Sudania, Shri Narendra

Azad, Shri Ghulam Nabi Bundela, Shri Sujan Singh

Baghel, Shri Pratapsinh Suta Singh, S.

Bairage, Shri Balkavi Chandrakar, Shri Chandulal

Baitha, Shri D.L Chandrasekhar, Shrimati M.

Bala Goud, Shri T. Chandrashekharappa, Shri T.V. 443 CDnstnurion NOVEMBER 24, 1987 CDnstitutIon. (56th Arndt) Bill (56th Amdt.) BID Chandresh Kumari, Shrimati Dipl, Shri Radhakanta

Chatterjee, Shri Somnath Dighe, Shri Sharad

Chaturvedi, Shri Naresh Chandra Digvijay Sinh, Shri

Chaturvedi, Shrimati Vidyavati Digvijaya Singh, Shri

Chaudhary, Shri Manphool Singh Dikshit, Shrimati Sheila

Chavan, Shri Ashok Shankarrao Dinesh Singh, Shri

Chavan, Shrimati Premalabai Dongaonkar, Shri Sahebrao Patil

Chidambaram. Shri P. Dube, Shri Bhishma Deo

Choudhari,ShrimatiUsha Faleiro, Shri Eduardo

Choudhary, Shri Jagannath Fernandes, Shri Oscar

Chowdhary, Shri Saifuddin Cadhvi, Shri B. K.

Dabh., Shri Ajitsinh GaekWad, Shri Ranjit Singh

Dafbir Singh, 5hri Gamit, Shri C. D.

Dalwai, Shri Hussain Candhi. Shri Rajiv

Damor, Shri Somjibhai Ganga Ram, Shri

Das, Shri Anadi Charan Gavit, Shri Manikrao Hodlya

Das, Shri Bipin Pal Gehlot, Shri Ashok

Oas, Shri Sudarsan Gholap, Shri S.C.

Das, Munsi, Shri Priya Ranjan , Ghorpade, Shri M.V.

Dennis, Shri N. Chosal, Shri Debi

Ceo, Shri V. Kishore Chandra S. Ghosh, Shri Bimal Kanti

Oeora, Shri Murli Ghosh, Shri Tarun Kanti

Dev, Shri Sontosh Mohan Cohil, Shri C.B.

Devi, Prof. Chandra Bhanu Gomango, Shri Giridhar·

Dhillon, Dr. C.S. Coswami, Shn Dinesh 445 Constitution ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SMi\) Constitution 446 , (SQh Nndt) Bill r.t;/ith AmdtJ BiN Gounder, Shri AS. Kamson, Prof. Meijinluns

Gowda, Shri H.N. Nanje Kaul, Shrimati Sheila

Guha, Dr. Phulrenu Kaushal, Shri Jagan Nath

Gupta, Shrirnati Prabtlawati Ken, Shri Lata Ram

Halder, Prof. M. R. KeyurBhushan,Shri

Khan, Shri Aslam Sher Hansda, Shri Matilal Khan, Shri Mohd. Avub Jadeja, Shri D.P. Khan, Shri Rahim Jagannath Prasad, Shri Khattri, Shri Nirmal Jain, Shri Oat Chander Khirhar, Shri R.S. Jain, Shri Nihal Singh IQdwai, Shrimati Mohsina Jain, Shri Virdhi Chander Kinder Lal, Shri

Jatav, Shri Kammodilal Kisku, Shri Prithvi Chand

Jayamohan, Shri A. KrisJ,na Kumar, Shri S.

Jena, Shri Chintamani Krishna Singh, Shri

Jhansi Lakshmi, Shrimati. N.P. Kshirsagar, Shrimati Kesharbai

Jhikram, Shri M.L. Kuchan, Shri Gangadhar ~.

Ji«lr'erJra Prasad, Shri Kujur, Shri Maurice

jitendra Singh, Shri Kumaramangalam, Shri P. R.

Jujhar Singh, Shri Kunwar Ram, Shri

Kabuli, Shri Abdul Rashid Kuppuswamy, Shri C.K.

Kamal Nath, Shri Kurien, Prof. P.J.

Kamat, Shri Gurudas Kurup, Shri Suresh

Kamble, Shri Arvind Tulshiram Lal Duhoma, Shri

Kamla Kumari, Kumari Law, Shri Asutosh 447 CDnstIfution t«JVEMBER 24, 1981 Constirution (56th Nndt.) Bill (56th Amdt.) Bill lowan& Shri W...... Motilal Singh, Shri

Madhuree Singh, Shrimati Mukherjee, Shrimati Geeta

Mahabir Prasad, Shri Mundackal, Shri George Joseph

Mahajan, Shri Y.S. Murthy, Shri M.V. Chandrashekara

Malik, Shri Dharampal Singt. Murty, Shri Bhattam Srirama

Malik, Shri Puma Chandra Mushran, Shri Aiay

Mallick, Shri lakshman Naik, Shri Shantaram

Malviya, Shri Bapulal Naikar, Shri D.K.

Mane, Shri Murlidhar Namgyal, Shri P.

Manorama Singh, Shrimati Narayanan, Shri K.R.

Manvendra Singh, Shri Natwar Singh, Shri K.

Mavani, Shrimati Patel Ramaben ;\amjibhai Nawal Prabhakar, Shrimati Sunderwati

Meena, Shri Ram Kumar Neekhra, Shri Rameshwar

Mehta, Shri. Haroobhai Oraon, Shrimati Sumati

Meira Kumar, Shrimati Pakeer Mohamed, Shri E.S.M

Mirdha, Shri Ram Niwas Pan de, Shri Raj Mangal Mishra, Shri. G.S. Pandey, Shri Damodar Mishra, Dr. Prabhat Kumar Pandey, Shri Madan Mishra, Shri Ram Nagina Pandey, Shri Manoj Mishra, Shri Shripati Panigrahi, Shri Chintamani Panigrahi, Shri Sriballav ~ I A Mishra, Shri Umakant Panika, Shri Ram Pyare Misra, Shri Nityananda Palnja, Shri A. K.

Modi, Shfi Vishnu ~ant, Shri K.C.

Mohanty, Shri 8rajamohan Panwar, Shri Satyanarayan

More, Prof. Ramkrishna Darashar, Prof. Narain Chand Constitupon 450 449 Constitution AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAM) (56th Amclt.) Bill (56th Arndt) Bill Pardhi, Shrt ICeshaorao Pushpa Devi, Kumari Patel, Shri Ahmed M. Qureshi, Shri Azii

Patel, Shri G.I. Raghuraj Singh, Chaudhary patel, Shri Ram Pujah Rai, Shri Raj Kumar

Patel, Shri U. H. Raj Karan Singh, Shri

Pathak, Shri Chandra Kishore Rajeshwaran, Dr. V.

Patil, Shri Balasaheb Vikhe Rajhans, Dr. C.S.

Patil. Shri H.B. Raju Shri Ananda Gajapathi

Pat ii, Shri Prakash V. Raju, Shri Vijaya Kumar

Patil, Shri Shivraj V. Ram, Shri Ramswaroop

Patil, Shri Veerendra Ram Awadh Prasad, Shri

Patil, Shri Vijay N. Ram Bahadur Singh, Shri

Pat ii, Shn Yashwantrao Gadakh Ram Dhan, Shri

Patnaik, Shrimati Jayanti Ram Prakash, Ch.

Pattnaik, Shri Jagannath Ram Samujhawan, Shri

Penchalliah, Shri P. Ram Singh, Shri

Peruman, Dr. P. Vallal Ramachandran, Shri Mullappally

Poojary, Shri Janardhana Ramamurthy, Shri K.

Potdukhe, Shri Shantaram Ramashray Prasad Singh, Shri

Prabhu, Shri R. Ramulu, Shri H.C.

Pradhan, Shri K. N. Ranganath, Shri K H.

Pradhani, Shri K Rao, Shri J. Chokka

Prakash Chandra, Shri Rao, Shri K.S.

Puran Chandra, Shri Rao, Shri P.V. Narasimha

Purohit, Shri Banwari Lal Rao, Shri V. Krishna 451 Constitution NOVEMBEI24, 1987 ConItItution 452 (56th Amdt.) BiR (56th Arndt) Bill Rao, Shri V. Sobhanadreeswara Sen, Shri Bholanath

Rath, Shri Somnath Sethi, Shri Ananta Prasad

Rathawa, Shri Amarsinh Sethi, Shri P.C.

Rathod, Shri Uttam Shah, Shri Anoopchand

Raut, Shri Bhola Shahi, Shri Laliteshwar

Ravani, Shri Navin Shailesh, Dr. B.L

Rawat, Shri Kamla Prasad Shaktawat, Prof. Nirmala Kumari Reddi, Shri C. Mad~v Shankaranand, Shri B. Reddy, Shri C. Janga Shanmugam, Shri P. Reddy, Shri K. Ramachandra Sharma, Shri Chiranji lal Reddy, Shri M. Raghuma Sharma, Shri Nand Kishore Saha, Shri Ajit Kumar Sharma, Shri Pratap Bhanu Saha, Shri Gadadhar ·Shastri, Shri Hari Krishna

Sahi, Shrimati Krishna Shingda, Shri O.B.

Sahu, Shri Shiv Prasad Shivendra Bahadur Singh, Shn

Sait, Shri Azeez Siddlq, Shri Hafiz Mohd.

Sait, Shri Ebrahim Sulaiman Sidnal, Shri S.B.

Sakargaym, Shri Kalicharan Singh, Shri Bhanu Pratap

Salahuddin, Shri Singh, Shri D.C.

Sankhawar, Shri Ashkaran Singh, Shri K. N.

Sankata Prasad, Dr. Singh, Shri Kamla Prasad

Satyendra Chandra, Shri Singh, Shri Krishna Pratap

Sathe, Shri Vasant Singh, Shri Lal Vijay Pratap

Sayeed, Shri P.M. Singh, Shri S. D.

Sdndia, Shri Madhavrao Singh, Shri Santosh Kumar 453 Constitution I\GRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SA/GA\) Constitution 454 (56th Nndt.) Bill (56th Arndt.) 8ill Singh Deo, Shri K P Thara Devi, Kumari 0.1<.

Sinha, Shrimati Ram Dulari Thomas, Prof. K. V.

Sodi, Shri Mankuram Thorat, Silri Bhausaheb

Solanki, Shri Kalyan Singh Thungon, Shri P. K.

Soren, Shri Harihar Tigga, Shri Simon

SOl, Prof. Saifuddin Tilakdhari Singh, Shri

Sparrow, Shri R.S. Tomar, Shrimati Usha Rani

Sreenivasa Prasad, Shri V. Tripathi, Dr. Chandra Shekhar

Subburaman, Shri A.C. Tyagi, Shri Dharamvir Singh

Sukh Ram, Shri Vairale, Shri Madhusudan

Sukhbuns Kaur, Shrimati Van, Shri Deep Narain

iultanpuri, Shn K.D. Vanakar, Shri Punam Chand Mlthabhal

Suman, Shn R.P. Venkatesan, Shri P.R.S.

Sundararaj, Shri N. Verma, Dr. C.S.

Sunder Singh, Ch. Verma, Shrimati Usha

Surendra Pat Singh, Shri Vijayaraghavan, Shn V.S.

Suryawanshi, Shri Narsing Vir Sen, Shri

Swami Prasad Singh, Shri Vyas, Shri Cirdhari Lal

Swell, Shri C. C. Wasnik, Shri Mukul

Tanti, Shri Bhadrpswar Yadav, Shri Kailash

Tapeshwar Singh, Shri Yadav, Shri Mahabir Prasad

Tariq Anwar, Shri Yadav, Shri R.N.

Tewary, Prof. K.K Yautlv, Shri Ram Singh

Thakkar, Shrimati tJsha Yadav, Shri Shyam tal 455 Constitution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution 456 (56th Amdt.) Bill (56th Arndt.) Bill Yadav, Shri Vijoy Kumar Yazoani, Dr. Colam

Yadava, Shri Bal Ram Singh Yogesh, Shri Yogeshwar Prasad

Ya.~ava, Shri D.P. Zainal Abedin, Shri

Yashpal Singh, Shri Zainul Basher, Shri

NOES

Abdul Hamid Shri Rao, Shn J. Vengala

*Wrongly Voted fo; NOES

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Subject to ,Qause 1, as amended, was added to the correction, the result of the division IS: Bill.

Ayes: 352 The Enacting Fcinnula and the Title were added to the Bill. Noes: 2

The motion is carried by a majority of (Translation] the total membership of the House and by majority of not fess than two thirds of the SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI: Mr. Members present and voting. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move:

"That the Bill, as amended, be passed." The motion was adopted. Qause 3 was added to the BIll. [Eng/ish]

Qause 1 (Short Title) MR. DE PUTY·SPEAKER: Before I put the Amendment made motion that the Bill, as amended, be passed, to the vote of the House this being "Page 1, line 3, a Constitution (Amendment) Bill, voting for . Fifty-sixth' substitute 'Fifty-eighth' (1) has to be by division.

[Shri Chintamani Panigrahi] The lobbies have already been cleared.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKE~ The question is: The question is: "That Clause 1, as amended, stand part That the Bill, as amended, be passed". of the Bill".

The motion was adopted. The Lok Sabha Divided:

··The following Members also recorded their votes for AYES: Sarvashree J.Vengala Rao, Siren Singh Engti, C.LDogra, Harpal Singh, Channaiah Odeyar, G.S.Basavaraju, Dr. Datta Samant, Shri R.Dhanuskodi Att-ithan, Shri Prabhu Lal Rawat and Shri V.S.Krishna Iyer. 457 Gons~tution AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 ~) COn~tiOQ 458 (56th Arndt.) Bill (56th Arndt.) Bill Division No.8] 16.16 tars. AYES

Abbasi, Shri K.J 0 Baitha, Shir Dol.

Abdul Ghafoor, Shri Bala Goud, Shri T.

Abdul Hamid, Shri Balaraman, Shri L

Acharia, Shri Basudeb Bali, Shrimati Vyjayanthimald

Adaikalaraj, Shri l. Banatwalla, Shri GoM.

Agarwal, Shri Jai Prakash Banerjee, Kumari Mamata

Ahmad, Shri Sarfaraz Basavarajeswari, Shrimati

Ahmed, Shrimati Abida Bhagat, Shri H0 K.l.

Akhtar Hasan, Shri Bhakta, Shri Manoranjan

Alkha Ram, Shri Bharat Singh, Shri

Anand Singh, Shri Bhoi, Dr. Krupasindhu

Anjian, Shrimati Manemma Bhoopatny, Shri G.

Ansari, Shri Abdul Hannan Bhosale. Shri Prataprao B.

Ansari, Shri Zo R. Bhumij, Shri Haren

A~un Singh, Shri Bhuria, Shri Dileep Singh

Arunachalam, Shri M. Birba!, Shri

Ataur Rahman, Shri Birendra Singh, Rao

Athithan, Shri"R. Dhanuskodi Birinder Singh, Shri

Awasthi, Shri Jagdish Brahma Dutt, Shri

Azad, ShriBha~atJha BudaDia, Shri Narendra

Azad, Shri Ghulam Nabi Bundela, Shri Sujan Singh

Baghel, Shri Pratapsinh Buta Singh, S.

Bairagi, Shri Balkavi Chandrashekar, 'Shri Chandulal 459 ConstItution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution (56th Amdt.) BIll (56th knelt.) Bill Cha~, Sbrimati M. Dhillon, Dr. C.S.

Cbandrashekharappa, Shri T.V. Dighe, Shri Sharad

Chandresh Kumari, Shrimati Digvijay Sinh, Shri

Chaturvedi, Shri Naresh Chandra Digvijay Singh, Shri

Chaturvedi, Shrimati Viclyavat; Dikshit, Shrimati Sheila

Chaudhary, Shri Manphool Singh Dinesh Singh, Shri

Chavan, Shri Ashok Shankarrao Dogra, Shri C.l.

Chavan, Shrimati Premalabai Dongaonkar, Shri Sahebrao Patil

Chidambaram, Shri P. Dube, Shri Bhishma Deo

Choudhari, Shrimati Usha Engti, Shri Siren Singh

Choudhary, Shri Jagannath Faleiro, Shri Eduardo

Chowdhary, Shri Saifuddin Fernandes, Shri Oscar

Dabhi, Shri AJitsinh Cadhvi, Shri B.I<.

Dalbir Singh, Shri Gaekwad, Shri Ranjit Singh

Dalwai, Shri Hussain Gamit, Shri C.D.

Damor, Shri Somjibhai Gandhi, Shri Rajiv

Das, Shri Anadi Charan Ganga Ram, Shri

Das. Shri Sipin Pal Gavit, Shri Manikrao Hodlya

Das, Shri Sudarsan Gehlot, Shn Ashok

Das Munsi, Shri Priya Ranjan Gholap, Shri S.C.

Dennis, Shri N Ghosal, Shri Debi

Deo, Shri V. Kishore Chandra S. Ghosh, Shri Simal Kanti

Deora, Shri Murli Ghosh, Shri Tarun Kanti

Dev.. Shri Sontosh Mohan Cohil, Shri C.B. Devi, Prof. Chandra Bhanu Gomango, Shri Ciridhar # 461 Constitution ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909~) Constitution 462 (56th Atndt) Bill (56th Arndt.) Bill Goswami, Shri Dinesh Kaul, Shrimati Sheila

Gounder, Shri A.S. Kaushal, Shri Jagan Nath

Gowda, Shri H. N. Nanje Ken, Shri Lala Ram

Guha, Dr. Phulrenu KeyurBhushan,Shri

Gupta, Shrimati P~bhawati Khan, Shri Aslam Sher

Halder, Prof. M. R. Khan, Shri Mohd. Ayub

Hansda, Shri Matilal Khan, Shri Rahim

Harpal Singh, Shri Khattri, Shri Nirmal

Jadeja, Shri D.P. Khirhar, Shri R.S.

Jagannath Prasad, Shri Kidwai, Shrimati Mohsina

Jain, Shri N ihal Singh Kinder lal, Shri

Jain, Shri Virdhi Chander Kisku, Shri Prithvi Chand

Jatav, Shri Kammodilal Krishna Kumar, Shri S. jayamohan, Shri A. Krishna Singh, Shri jena, Shri Chintamani Kshirsagar, Shrimati Kesharbai jhansi lakshmi, Shrimatl N.P. Kuchan, Shri Cangadhar S.

Jitendra Prasada, Shn Kujur, Shri Maurice

Jitendra Singh, Shri Kumaramangalam, Shri P. R.

Jujhar Singh, Shri Kunwar Ram, Shri

Kabuli, Shri Abdul Rashid Kuppuswamy, Shri C. K.

Kamal Nath, Shri Kurien, Prof. P.J.

Kamble, Shri Arvind Tulshiram Kurup, Shri Suresh

Kamla Kumari, Kumari Lal Duhoma, Shri

Ka. Ilson, frof. Meijinlung law, Shri Asutosh ConstIt.ution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution 464 (56th Amdt.) Bill (56th Arndt.) Bill lowang, Shri Wangpha Motital Singh, Shri

Madhuree Singh, Shrimati Mukherjee, Shrimati Geeta

Mahabir Prasad, Shri Mundackal, Shri George Joseph

Mahajan, Shri Y.S. Murthy, Shri M. V. Chandrashekara

Malik, Shri Dharampal Singh Murty, Shri Bhattam Srirama

Malik, Shri Puma Chandra Mushran, Shri Ajay

Mallick, Shri lakshman Naik, Shri Shantaram

Malviya, Shri Bapulal Naikar, Shri D. K

Mane, Shri Murlidhar Namgyal, Shri P

Manorama Singh, Shrimati Narayanan, Shri KR.

Manvendra Singh, Shri Natwar Singh, Shri K

. Mavani, Shrimati Patel Ramaben Ramjibhai Nawal Prabhakar, Shrimati Sunderwati

Meena, Shri Ram Kumar Neekhra, Shri Rameshwar

Mehta, Shri Haroobhai Odeyar, Shri Channaiah

Meira Kumar, Shrimati Oraon, Shrimati Sumati

Mirdha, Shri Ram Niwas Pakeer Mohamed, Shri E.S.M.

Mishra, Shri C.S Pande, Shri Raj Mangal Mishra, Dr. Prabhat Kumar PaRdey, Shri Damodar Mishra, Shri Ram Nagina Pandey, Shri Madan Mishra, Shri Shripati Pandey, Shri Manoj Mishra, Shri Urnakant Panigrahi Shri Chintamani Misra, Shri Nityananda Panigrahi, Shri Sriballav Modi, Shri Vishnu Panika, Shri Ram Pyare

Mohanty, Shri Brajamohan Panja, Shri A. K.

More, Prof. Ramkrishna Pant, Shri K.C. 46S Constitution ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAKA) Constitution 466 (56th Arndt) Rill (56th Arndt.) Bill Panwar, Shri Satyatlarayan Pushpa Devi Kumari

Parashar, Prof. Narain Chand Qureshi, Shri Aliz

Pardhi, Shri Keshaorao Raghuraj Singh, Chaudhary

Patel, Shri Ahmed M. Rai, Shri Raj Kumar

Patel, Shri G.I. Raj Karan Singh, Shri

Pathak, Shri Chandra Kishore Rajeshwaran, Dr. V.

Patil, Shri Balasaheb Vikhe Rajhahs, Dr. C.S.

. Patil, Shri H .B. Raju, Shri Ananda Cajapathi

Patil, Shri Prakash V. Raju, Shri Vijaya Kumar

Patil, Shri Shivraj V. Ram, Shri Ramswaroop

Patif, Shri Veerendra Ram Awadh Prasad, Shri

Patil, Shri Vijay N. Ram Bahadur Singh, Shri

Patil, Shri Yashwantrao Gadakh Ram Dhan, Shri

Patnaik, Shrimati Jayanti Ram Prakash, Ch.

Pattnaik, Shri Jagannath Ram Samujhawan, Shri

Penchalliah, Shri P. Ram Singh, Shri

Peruman, Dr. P Vallal Ramachandran, Shri Mullappalfy

Poojary, ~Im Janardhana Ramamurthy, Shri K.

Potdukhe, Shri Shantaram Ramashray Prasad Singh, Shri

Prabhu, Shri R. Ramulu, Shri H.G.

Pradhan, Shri K. N. Ranganath, Shri K.H.

Pradhani, Shri K. Rao, Shri J. Chokka

Prakash Chandra, Shri Rao, Shri j. Vengala

Puran Chandra, Shri Rao, Shri K.S. Purohit, Shri Banwari lal Rao, Shri P.V. Narasimha 467 Constitution NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Constitution (56th Amdt.) Bill (56th Arndt.) Bill lao, Shri V. Krishna Sen, Shri Bhoianath

Rao, Shri V. Sobhanadreeswara Sethi, Shri Ananta Prasad

Rath, Shri Somnath Sethi, Shri P.C.

Rathawa, Shri Amarsinh Shah, Shri Anoopchand

Rathod, Shri Uttam Shahi, Shri Laliteshwar

Raut, Shri. Bhola Shailesh, Dr. B.l.

Ravani, Shri~avin Shaktawat, Prof. Nirmala Kumari Rawat, Shri Kamla Prasad Shankaranand, Shri B. Reddi, Shri C. Madhav Shanmugam, Shri P. Reddy, Shri K Ramachandra Sharma, Shri Chiranji Lal Reddy, Shri M. Raghuma Sharma, Shri Nand Kishore Saha, Shri Ajit Kumar Sharma, Shri Pratap Bhanu

Sah~Shri.Cadadhar Shastri, Shri Hari Krishna

Sahi, Shrimati Krishna Shingda, Shri D.B.

Sahu, Shri Shiv Prasad Shivendra 8ahadur Singh, Shri

Sait, Shri Azeez Siddiq, Shri Hafiz Mohd.

Sait, Shri Ebrahim Sulaiman Sidnal, Shri S.B.

Sakargaym, Shri Kalicharan Singh, Shri Bhanu Pratap

Salahuddin, Shri Singh, Shri D.C.

Sankhawar, Shri Ashkaran Singh, Shri K. N.

Sankata Prasad. Dr. Singh, Shri Kamla Prasad

Satyendra Chandra, Shri Singh, Shri I.

Sathe, Shri. Vasant Singh, Shri Lal Vijay Pratap

Sayeed, Shri. P.M. Singh, Shri S.D.

Scindia, Shri Madhavrao Singh, Shri Santosh Kumar 469 ConstItution AGRAHAYANA ~, '1909 (SAKA CDnstitution . 470 (56th Amdt.) Bill (56th Amdt.) Bill Singh Oeo, Shri K.P. Thomas, Prof. Ie. V

Sinha, Shrimati Ram Dulari Thungon, Shri P. K.

Sodi, Shri Mankuram Tigga, Shri

Solanki, Shri Kalyan Singh Tilakdhari Singh, Shri

Soren, Shri Harihar Tripathi, Dr. Chandra Shekhar

Soz, Prof. Saifuddin Tyagi, Shri Dharamvir Singh

Sparrow, Shri R.S. Vairale, Shri Madhusudan

Sreenivasa Prasad, Shri V. Van, Shri Deep Narain

Subburaman, Shri A.G. V.anakar, Shri Punam Chand Mithabhai

Sukh Ram, Shri Venkatesan, Shri P.R.S.

Sukhbuns Kaur, Shrimati Verma, Dr. C.S.

Sultanpuri, Shri K.D. Verma, Shrimati Usha

Suman, Shri R. P Vijayaraghavan, Shri V.S.

Sundararaj, Shri N. Vir Sen, Shri

Sunder Singh, Ch. Vyas, Shri Girdhari lal

Surendra Pal Singh, Shri Wasnik, Shri MukuJ

Suryawanshi, Shri Narsing Yadav, Shri Kai1ash

Swami Prasad Singh, Shri Yadav, Shri Mahahir Prasad

Tanti, Shri Bhadreswar Yadav, Shri R.N.

Tapeshwar Singh, Shri Yadav, Shri Ram Singh

Tariq Anwar, Shri Yadav, Shri Shyam Lal

Tewary, Prof. K. K. Y~dav, ~nri ViJoy Kumar

Thakkar, Shrimati Usha Yadava, Shri Bal Ram Singh

Thara Devi, Kumari D. K. Yadava, Shri O. P 471 Disc. re: Drought, NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Disc. re: Drought, 472 Roods and Cyclone Floods and Cyclone Yashpal Singh, Shri lainal Abedin, Shri

Yazdani, Dr. Colam Zainul Basher, Shri

Vogesh, Shri Yogehswar Ptasad

Noes: Nil

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: **Subject to Committee on 23rd November, 1987, the correction, the result of the division is: initiator of the discussion will be given 20 minutes and other Members 10 minutes Ayes: 347 each. The smaller groups with two members will be given the option to par- Noes: Nil ticipate in this discussion or in the discussion on rise in prices of essential The Motion was adopted. commodities which is to be held on Thursday, the 26th November, 1987. The motion is carried by a majority of the total membership of the House and by I shall impress upon the Members to a majority of not less than two-thirds of the strictly adhere to the time allowed. Any members present and voting. Member who exceeds the time will not be allowed to go on record. The Bm, as amended, is passed by the requisite majority, in accordance with the provisions of Article 368 of the SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI (Guwahati): Constitution. Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I rise to raise a discussion under Rule 193 on the situation 16.16 hrs. arising out of the natural calamities, with particular reference to drought, floods and [Eng/ish] cyclone. Though the discussion encompas~es natural calamities with DISCUSSION RE: SITUATION ARISING particular reference to drought, floods and OUT OF NATURAL CALAMITIES WITH cyclone, I will confine myself to floods PARTICUlAR REFERfNCE TO DROUGHT, alone for two reasons. FlOOD~ AND CYCLONE

[English] 16.19 hrs.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The House will [SHRI SOMNATH RATH In the Chair] now take up discussion under Rule 193 regarding situation arising out of the natu- Firstly, the time at my disposal will not ral calamities with particular reference to permit me to discuss all the natural drought, floods and cyclone for which two calamities and secondly, I feel that cyclone hours are available. and drought may be discussed by those members who have first hand information As agreed to in the Business Advisory on these natural calamities. •• The following Members also recorded ttJeir v~tes for AYES:

Salvashree Gurudas Kamat, Radhalcanta .Diaal, U.H. Patel, Prabhu lal Rawat, G.G Swell Mohan Lal Ihikram C.S. BasavaraJu Dal Chander Jain M.Y r.norpade, Dr D~tta Samant Shri Ram Pupn Patel, Shri Y.S. Krishna Iyer , Shri C. langa Reddy dnd Shr;mati Usha Rani ' Tomar. 473 Disc. re: Drought, AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909~) Disc. re: DrOlJght, 474 Roods and Cyclone Floods and Cyclone Every year, Assam is ravaged by floods country are addressed In the teminine and this time we had the unprecedented gender such as 'Ganga Ma', Brahmaputra is floods both in its dimension and in its considered to be the putra, the son of numbers. Within a short span of couple of Brahma. The Brahmaputra passes primarily months, we had five floods one after through the State of Assam unlike the another and the dimension was something Gansa's which passes through a number of which is difficult ~ describe. Even today, States, and that is the reason why the en- after the flood waters had receded more tire fury of the river has to be faced by the than two months back, there are still areas relatively under-developed State of Assam. -where people have not been able to go Every year, not only does this create back. tremendous problems, hardships and loss of lives and properties, what is more, the Mr. Chairman, "Sir, some order should incentive for the agriculturist and the be maintained in the House. fanner to go in for better farming methods is also totally lost. Though the farmers MR. CHAIRMAN: Order please! know that they can use all types of new and novel methods, they also know that SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: Even today, they are completely dependent upon after more than two months have elapsed nature because at some point of time or since the last flood, there are areas where the other, their crops are going to be people have not been able to go back to affected floods. This is the reason why in their old homes. People have not been spite of the fact that Assam has great able to shift. During the floods, there were potentiality for agricultural developmer< areas where was impossible even to drop there has virtually been no development I food as the entire area was totally the agriculture front. And we cannot real~ submerged. expect any breakthrough in the agricultural front, unless we solve this probl~ on a I will give certain figures for the benefit warfooting. of the han. Minister, who already has these figures at his disposal. But I think I must share this information with the House Government of Assam had asked for itself. I n a population of hardly two crores Rs.385.1S cror~. That was the demand for in Assam, the five floods have affected a the first three floods. I do not know population of 52.12 lakhs. That means whether the Government of Assam's more than one-fourth of the population requisition for the last two floods has was affected by the floods. An area of come. But the amount will be more. You 12,932 square miles was inundatt.:-d; can very well appreciate that the sum we 309653 houses were damaged; livestock asked for is very reasonable. For flood numbering about one lakh was lost; 7011 control measures we asked Rs.119 crores, villages were affected and you can imagine for agriculture Rs.12.12 crores, for food and the plight of our farmers when the total supplies Rs.13.03 crores and for gracious crop area damaged was to the extent of relief, Rs.19.40 crores. Sir, I do not want to 5.69 lakh hectares. 95 human lives were go into all these details. The han. Minister also lost during these floods. Till the third and this House know that Assam was cut flood, we had 87 relief camps. I could not off during these floods for a number of get hold of the figures relating to the last days. Excepting air communications, there two floods. So this figure of camps is only were no ground communica!ions either by upto the third flood. railways or even by trucks or motors, with the result that the prices of all commodities shot up. The House can very well imagine The entire burden of the Brahmaputra the plight of the people in Assam when floods has to be borne by the State of onions were sold at Rs. 40 per kilo in Assam. As you know, Brahmaputra is the Assam at a particular point of time. I think, .., mightiest of all the rivers in this country 'one of the precious commodities that some and in fact while all the other rivers in this of my friends use to take to Assam at that 475 Disc. re: Drought, NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Disc. re: Drought, 476 Floods and Cyclone Roods and Cyclone (Shri ~ CoswamIJ and I.. beJieve that Some very serious steps will have to be taken to which I will come point rI' time in their boxes was not later. vallaabIes but onions. The Government of Assam has asked for We have to face another kind of a a specific grant for total treating of problem-of course not a new Brahmaputra we have asked for raising the ~-but a problem equally big in its annual allocation for the floods controls ~ons. And that is the problem of works because Brahmaputra Board itself in erosaon. Its Master Plan have said that the amounts which are today available to the State of Assam for flood control works are not When the flood water recedes, it leaves sufficient; the flood problem cannot be the problem of erosion. We have lost one solved permanently or adequately. I don't cl the very important commercial towns in ., think that the flood problem can be erosion-Dibrugarh. Today, the entire pennanently solved; it can be minimised MajuIi, which is the biggest riverine island and it cannot be minimised unless some in the world with an area of 1,250 sq kms mukipurpose projects are taken up. I will is facing real tunnoil, because every year draw the attention of the House to multi- the area is becoming less and less because purpose projects which have been drawn cI erosion. In my own constituency, a very up by the Brahmaputra Board. We have important town may not be a very big town also asked for an amount of Rs.400 crores but a commercial centre of importance, for the next 15 years for the flood control Palasbari was completely destroyed by and lOOper cent as loan assistance erosion. People went and built their homes because the problem is that the amount and hearths in a near area, started new that you give--when it comes for the relief trading centre, but that area-recently I went that amount is deducted from our plan there-is facing another onslaught of resources with the result that development erosion. The area of Mukalmua is faCing suffers. Therefore, for short term measures, erosion; and this has caused a new though certain amount is given to the State problem in the State of Assam. The for ad hoc relief measures, that helps the Government of ~m in view of the poor men at that particular point of time, enormity of the problem, apart from the but, in the ultimate analysis, the amount that they asked for from the Cen- development of the State suffers. tral Government, has suggested certain Unfortunately, I must say that the response specific measures. According to the five- of the Central Government to our request point programme submitted to the has been very inadequate. The Central Covernment of India, it has been assistance minus the margin money that suggested to the Central Government that has been given to Assam is only Rs.S7.2S there should be a specific grant for total crores against the demand of Rs.385 treating of Brahmaputra. It should not be crores. Large parts of embankments have that every time the flood comes we come been washed away, roads have been with a begging bowl to the Central washed away. In fact, the only High Way Government. We asked for a particular which connects tile Lower Assam and the tuKIred crore or a few hundred crores of Upp.er Assam was virtually out of rupees; and out of that, a few crores are connection for a long time. For all that we Jiven to us and then we wait for the next have asked for Rs.119 crores and we have flood; in this way, the people have to live been given a pittance of Rs.27 crores for with this problem for ever. agriculture, a very limited amount of RsA crores have been given; virtually, no When we are approaching the 21st amount has been given for medical and century, when science has conquered so gratuitous relief to the flood affected many obstades to feel people that this is people. somethins with which we have to put up, I think it is a shame to our national progress; It is no use every year talkina about this 477 Disc Ie: l>touBht, ACtWtAVANA 3, 1909 ~) Disc. Ie: DrOlJ8ht, 478 Roods and Cyclone Roods and Cyclone problem. What do we c10 regarding this purpose dams and wOlb connected problem in a permanent way. We u'Bed therewith proposed in the Master upon the Central Government for a Plan as approved by the Central number of years that Brahmaputra is a river Government and maintain and which cannot be tackled by the Assam operate such dams and works." Government alone. We were happy that the Brahmaputra Board was constituted by Now, we have been told that the an act of Parliament because of the Brahmaputra Board has drawn up a Master pressure of the people of Assam. The Plan, and two very important projects have Btahmaputra Board Act of 1980 was passed been suggested, one is the Subansiri and the Brahmaputra Board come into projects and the other is the Dihang existence. The provisions of the Brahmapu- Project. A study, a few years back by tra Board Act indicate that the Brahmaputra experts led to this conclusion that out of Board is called upon to tackle this problem. the total full flow of silt that the different I will read out the provision of Section 12 rivers in this country carry, 50 per cent is of the Brahmaputra Board Act which deals carried by Brahmaputra alone; with the with the Master Plan for the control of result that the Brahmaputra contributes to floods, etc. in the Brahmaputra Valley. 50 per cent of the silt and the bed of Brahmaputra contibunes to rise every year. Section 12 says: And every year, the intensity and the level of flood have been more. "12. Master Plan for the control of floods, etc., in the Brahmaputra ~al ley--(1) Subject to the other provisions of this Act and the rules, It is in bed an irony of fate that at a time the Board shall carry out surveys and when we were suffering from deluge, from investigations in the Brahmaputra excess water, the rest of the country was Valley and prepare a Master Plan for suffering from scarcity of water that shows the control of floods and bank that there is something wrong with the erosion and improvement of water resources management of our drainage in the Brahmaputra Valley." country.

AN HON. MEMBER: Planning of the I have come to know that a Master Plan country. has now been drawn. Project reports of two multi-purpose projects are now lying SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: There is no with different Ministries of-the Government integrated water resources project or plan. of India for clearance. Now, the project report drawn up by the Brahmaputra Board shows that if the Section 13 says: Dihan~ Proiect is brought into existence, it will account for 40 per cent of the silt of "13. Other functions of the Board-(1) the river Brahmaputra, that is, 40 per cent The Board shall also- of the silt water of the Brahmaputra can be tackled, and the resultant problem of flood perhaps to a large extent also wiD be (a) prepare detailed reports and taclded. The other, Sabansiri project estimates in respect of the dams and accounts for 7 per cent of the silt and it is other projects proposed in the the view of the experts that even if Master Plan as approved by the Sabansiri project is carried throush in the Central Government. .. lower part of Assam, to a great extent, the problem of ftood wiN be tackled.

(c) construct, with the approval of Apart from it, Sabansiri and the Dihang the Central Government, multi- Projects have tremendous power potential. 419 Disc. Ie: Drought, NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Disc. re: Drousht, 480 Roods and Cyclone Roods and Cyclone (Shri Dinesh Goswami] Mlnistef, we have writen to the Agriculture Minister for early implementation of the Sabans.. ; has got 4800 MW and Dihang has project. Now there is one point that this got a power potential of 20,000 MW. And project will require the concurrence of the this power potential will benefit all the Arunachal Government. I believe that after North Eastern States. If this Sabansiri and all Arunachal is a part of this country and Oihang Projects are constructed, if these Arunachal Government is run by a party multi-projects are constructed, we will which is also running the Central have the problem of floods tackled and Government. Therefore, I would plead with those two projects will be able to give this House that though it may not be power to all the Eastern States, not if possible for the time being because of the beyond, even to Uttar Pradesh, because financial constraint to take up the Dihang our requirement of power is much less. project, the Government of India in Also, it has been found out that if we discussion with the Arunachal Govemment, take into account the various facts and should immediately go in for the Subansiri figures regarding the submerged. area Project. affected, or population affected, these two are extremely interesting and attractive So far as erosion is concerned, an projects. I will give for the benefit of this experimental scheme was taken up in one House comparative figures of the Sabansiri part of Assam to find out whether the project as d~wn up by the Brahmaputra experiment in that can be applied Board as well as the figures of some of the successfully in the other parts. Now, this multi-purpose projects, those are in experiment has again been successful in an existence now. For example, Sardar area known as Gumi. Now, our Minister for Sarobar project, the area submerged is 370 Flood Control has written to the sq. km. whereas in Sabansiri the area Government of India that in those areas submerged will be 193 sq. Ian. The where there is severe erosion, because it is population affected by Sardar Sarobar will successful, the same method shOUld be be 41,600, in Bham Nangal it is 36,000 in applied. He has received a letter from the Narmada Sagar it is 80,000, in Seas it is Deputy Chainnan of the Planning 80,000 but in Sabansiri it will be only Commission, who wrote sometime bac~ 7,500. The population affected per sq.km. that if actually the Gumi experiment merged area is for Sardar Sarobar 112, for becomes successful, then the same method Brahma it is 213, for Beas it is 307, and for will be applied in the other areas and he Sabansiri it is 38 only. particularly mentioned two areas Mukalmua and Monaholla. But The population affected per MW unfortunately, we have been that these instaUed electricity capacity is, for Sardar letters and recommendations reaUy remain Sarobar 23, for Bhakra it is 34, for Sabansiri on the archives of the Government. I have it is only 1.56. The calculation that has pleaded with this Government because I been made by the Brahmaputra Board have seen hundreds of families becoming shows that at the prices of 1984, electricity desti~te. Once they have to leave their will be avaitable at less than 21 paise per hearths and homes they lose everything unit which is the cheapest in India. they have. Hundreds of families have already lost and another thousand; will lose Therefore, if you take into account the unless you do something. I pleaded with area submerged, the population affected the Government that you take some per MW installed or tJte price of the measures. After all in Assam, we have a electricity. It is the most attractive project legitimate complaint. I do not want to Of course, Dihang is slightly an ambitious introduce politics. After all, drought is a project because it requires about Rs.8,OOO very serious problem, we do not deny it. crores, whereas the Sabansiri project But whatever may be the reason--one can requires only about Rs.3,068 crores, We complain of political motivation. In the have pleaded with the Central matter of Covernment's approach to Government, we have written to the Prime drought and floods everybody has talked 481 Disc re: Drought, AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAJV\) Disc. re: Drought, 482 Floods and Cyclone Floods and Cyclon~ about drought, but when Assam was from relief, a permanent measure should ravaged by floods after floods, nobody be taken. talked about floods. Unfortunately, let me point out here that on the important message of the Independence Day, i.e. 15th August, when Assam was suffenng One of the shortcomings of thE" from floods, not a single words regarding Brahmaputra Board has been that it ha$~ floods was mentioned in the nlessage. The drawn up two projects--S",bansiri antf people's reaction to this was, is it that we Dihang and if these projects are to be are not a part of this country? I do not taken in hand it will take 13 to 14 years for want of inject any politics, but I feel that these projects to see the full light of the this feeling which is there in the minds of day. People cannot wait for 13 to 14 years the oeooles should be communicated. If for alleniation if then miseries. But no you want integration in this country, then short-term measure has been taken by the you must give a feeling of oneness to Brahmaputra Board. I wrote to the Prime people of all parts of this country and in a Minister. He has kindly written to me bade moment of hardship, people become sen- that so far as erosion is concerned, he ha sitive to these matters. It may be written to the Brahmaputra Board to look intentional or unintentional. An unin- into it. I will urge upon the hon. Minister to tentional omission may even create ask the Brahmaputra Board to immediately conflict. draw up the projects to see that short-tenn measures are taken to alleviate the PROF. N.C. RANGA (Guntur): When the sufferings of the people. They are Central Minister made a Statement, we all suggesting from time to time about a felt unhappy about it. Why do you think number of project but nothing has Ileer that we have excluded Assam 1 done. Therefore, my concrete suggestion will be that for permanent measures, if it is SHRI DINESH COSWAMI: I do not like not possible today immediately to respond to go into the details. regarding Dihang, at least let us have Sabansiri project implemented. There Therefore, I am only conveying in a very should be immediate short-tenn measures temperate language the feeling of the taken by the-tirahmaputra Board by way of people. I have not tried to introduce embankment or otherwise to deal with the politics because let us not play politics on problem. My second suggestion will be human problems. Therefore, I would urge that specific fund for total treating of that instead of a routine reply to which we Brahmaputra should be created. My third have become accustomed year after year, suggestion is that this should be by way of you give some positive response to the 100% loan assistance because Assam proposals which I have made. cannot bear the burden. If Assam is to bear the burden as a grant, then obviously in the plan we show more money, bllt money is Brahmaputra Board for example--such pumped out of the total plan resources. For an important Board was topless for quite Heaven's sake, take immediate steps for sometime, there was no Chairman; there the safety of the people in the erosion was no Vice-Chairman. affected areas. If we take immediate steps, some of these areas we will be able to I do not want to take much of time of save. Therefore, I hope, the hon. Minister the House because a number of other will respond to the suggestions I have Members would like to speak. I only made and he will not give the reply in a submit that there should be more routine manner in this House but will reply allocation for permanent as well as short in a more positive and concrete manner. term measures because mere allocation at the time of the floods does not really help SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY (Nalgonda): the States as the amount goes out of the This is the third time this year that we are State Planning process. Therefore, apart discussing floods and drougths, I except 483 Disc. re: Drought, NOVEMBER 24, 1987 D;~c. re: Drought, 484 Roods and Cyclone Floods and Cyclone. [Shri M. Raguma Reddy] package measures or contingency plans but they cannot give a guarantee on the the same stereo-typed reply from the hon. floor of the House regarding pennanent Minister. m~asures and pennanent solutions.

This time the drought is different from Comings to the Eighth Finance them of previous years. This time 265 Commission, why don't they change the districts in 21 States have come in the grip rules? What for are these rules there? For of severe drought and 118 districts in 9 whom are those ruled there 1 When all the States have cOllle in the grip of floods. The States are suffering, when one-third of the area affected is nearly 454.20 lakh hactares population is suffering then why they are and the population affected is more than sticking to the Eighth finance Commission 1 What are they actually giving? They give 29 crores. only plan advance. five per cent of the Plan Whatever may be the case, severe advance they are giving to the States and drought and floods have become a natural that two 50 per cent fonn the State budget phenomenon. I do not know whether the and 50 per cent they are giving. That is God is cursing the nature or the nature is given only as an advance. They are giving it cursing the human beings. There should be as a loan and not as a mercy. 't is not a a pennanent solution to the problem. Every grant. They are not following the Eighth year, States are asking for some money and Finance Commission's Report. The Report that if there is drought consecutively you are giving a paltry sum. I n fact, States says have become beggars before the Govern- for 4-5 years, it should be hundred per cent grant. .. (Interruptions). ment of India. They have to beg. And you give some money. You show the ceiling and your Bible is the Eighth finance Commission. You say that the ceiling is THE MINISTER Of STATE IN THE Rs.1046 crores and you cannot go beyond DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND ~OOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY Of that. That limited amount you have to give AGRICULTURE (SHRI YOGENDRA to all the affected States. This year, States have requested for Rs.17, 800 crores and MAK'NANA): Nowhere it is written in the you have given only Rs. 820 crores. Last finance Commission's Report. Without reading the Report don't speak. If you go year also, States had asked for Rs. 4072 crores and you gave only Rs. 669 crores. through the Report, nowhere it is This is the situation. The planners should mentioned like that. think about this problem and try to find a solution. After all, this subject does not SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: If I pertain only to the Agriculture Ministry but remember correctly, it is on page 70, clause 33 it pertains to all the Departments. Of or something like that. There it is course, you may say it is the collective mentioned that if it is a permanent one, it responsibility of the Cabinet. My learned should be a lOOper cent grant. friend, who preceded me, talked about the Brahmaputra Board. The subject pertains to SHRI YOGENDRA MAKYVANA: Nowhere the water Resources Ministry. That Minister it is written. is not here. There should have been the planning Minister and the finance Minister SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: You can also present here. If they are not here, I do correct me if , am wrong. I am saying this not mind if the hon. Minister can subject to correction. There is no communicate our feelings to the Minister controversy Makwana Ji. Sir, I want the for Water Resources and to the other Minister to consider that when there is a Ministers concemed. The feeling here is continuous drought for 5-6 years, it should that whenever there is a drought, it is only be considered as a hundred per cent grant, the Agriculture Ministry which is concerned and if it is for 3-4 years, then it should be with it. Agrirulture Ministry can talk about considered as 7S per cent grant and 2S per seeds, fertilizers, pesticides or some cent loan. This should be there. 485 Disc re: Drought, ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (~) Disc. re: Drought, 486 Floods and Cyclone Roods and Cyclone There are many suggestions which I be eating this year. But what about the next have been giving since beginning. When year? Where from will they get the stocks our hon. Minister was the Speaker, when for the next year? They say that the he was in occupation of this seat, Dr. K. L production will be 150 million tonnes this Rao had proposed one scheme--Ganga- year. The han. Minister may say how much Cauvery. If that is not possible, why don't they are going to get out of this. Will it be they take up this Mahanadi-Godavari- 30 million tonnes during the Kharif season Krishna and Cauvery scheme. That is a or will it be 40 million tonnes during the peninsular one. That has not been taken up Khatif season? You may get 70 or 75 million so far. Ther~ are many pennanent projects. tonnes during the rabi season. But are you The prime input for agriculture is water. going to reach the target of 164 million Where there is no water, you cannot do tonnes fixed for the current financial year? anything. We have plenty of water. Just How are you going to reach 175 million now we are suffering from floods in Assam tonnes by the end of 19901 Where from and in other North-Eastern part of India , will you get this quantity? but in South India, people are suffering for want of water. Even in Andhra Pradesh also, I say bring to the notice of the han. Minister that seven districts have suffered THE MINISTER OF AGRICUlTt IRE (DR. due to the cyclones and floods but the G.S. DHILLON,: We will do it. other districts are suffering for want of water. This is the phenomenon. So, there should be a permanent solution. There SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: Presently, should be some concrete measures taken. how much more area are you going to After all, they have given Rs.69 crores to bring under irrigation? Is it 60 million Andhra Pradesh. They may say that it IS hectares 1 Are you planning for 65 million or over and above whatever they have given. I 70 million hectares? What are the sources? think Mr. Makwana is ready to say that the How are you going to develop them? Can State has not spent all the amount. He will you tell us whether it is going to be done say that. Many times he has repeated the with the help of ground water source, same thing. I am not going to enter into tanks irrigation or major project irrigation? any sort of controversy ... (lnterruptions). I want to know whether you have any planning in this matter. I want to know whether the Government of India are SHRI YOCENDRA MAKWANA: When I thinking for national project with the help speak, I speak with authority. I never bluff of the State Government. Due to the like you. continuous drought situation in the country, the developmental plan has been SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: I am not affected. We are giving something like SO "- bluffing you. What I am saying is that we for your budget for taking up devel- want a permanent solution to the problem opmental programmes in the country. But whether it is in Rajasthan or Gujarat or how the State Governments run? I would Haryana or Punjab. Even in Punjab and request that you should think of a Haryana, where 85 per cent of the area is permanent plan by constructing more' under irrigation, where there are many number of projects. Actually in Andhra permanent irrigation projects, drought Pradesh, in Nagarjuna Sagar the nonnal situation is there. water level use to be 905 ft. Today it is S40 ft. There is about 50 ft. less of water level. Coming to the food production, I do not They are not able to cope up with this low know how they are going to meet this level. There are neariy six Iakh hectares to crisis. This year they may not be able to feel be irrigated by Nagarjuna Sagar. Now they the crisis but next year they will see the have down only in 2 lakh hectares during result. This year they have got the buffer this kharif season. During rabi season, we stock, even the fanners in the villages have promised that we would be irrigating about some stock in their houses which they will 3 lakh hectares. 487 Disc. re: Drought, NOVEMBER 24, t987 Disc. re: Drought, 488 Floods and Cyclone Floods and Cyclone DR. C.S. DHILLON: For permanent Mr. Arunachalam. He has created nuisance measure, it is your memorandum: It is not there. He has created some political going to be permanent. problems. He has made some statements which hurt the feelings of the Andhra SHRI M. RACHUMA REDDY: Whatever Pradesh people. So, in future, I would may be my permanent memoranda, but request the hon. Minister not to send any here I am speaking on behalf of the Minister for politicalisation of the issue. It is country. Though I belong to Andhra the issue of the farmers. It is an issue of the Pradesh, I speak here on behalf of the Indian population. It is an issue of the Indian farmers. I reflect the feelings of the Indian population. It is an issue of our Indians. Do not confine me to Andhra State, Not only Andhra Pradesh or Pradesh. 1 am a Member of this House. But Kamataka, whatever may be the State, you whatever may be the case, there should ~e should trust the people who are working some permanent measures. In Andhra there, who are also elected like you and Pradesh, there are many projects which are they have forme'd their own Covernment pending. Not only in Andhra Pradesh, it is there. pending in Karnataka also and wherever water is available you should make use of SHRI YOGENDRA MAK\NANA: Are you the water. We should make permanent speaking with the permission of your Chief projects. Then only we can solve the Minister? Because your Chief Minister problem. made a statement that nobody was visiting Andhra Pradesh. That was the statement Sir, I want to refer to one important made by your Chief Minister. subject, that is, Energy. The han. Minister for Energy is not here. Sir, all the hydel SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: No. The projects have suffered in Andhra Pradesh. visit is different from that of supervising the The projects like Srikakulam, Nagarjuna operations of the State Government. We Project have suffered because of paucity of welcome the visit of hon. Minister. But we water in Krishna and Tungabadra rivers. do not want you to supervise the wor"- Even in Godavari water level has come there. There is the elected Government. down. We want many thermal projects, There are officials. There IS au-.. elected many nuciear power projects. Andhra body. They will take care of their pril>lems. Pradesh is suffering dut to shortage of power. About 30% to 40% power shortage DR. C.S. DHILLON: You welcome us to is there in Andhra Pradesh. Agriculture will your State. Your Chief Minister welcomes be affected seriousty due to power us. But he does not welcome us when we shortage. Sir, I would request through you go for monitoring. the Government, let the Government of India come forward and give power to [Translation 1 Andhra Pradesh form other neighbouring States. SHRI MAN OJ PANDEY (Bettiah): Mr. Chakman, Sir, a lot of information has already been made available to this august Sir, in rel;a, u to monitoring of the House regarding the natural calamity that scheme, I would like to bring to your kind has befallen the country this year. Through notice one thing. Sir, your team of you, Sir, I want to raise in a few words personnel came to Andhra Pradesh to some points concerning North Bihar and assess the situation. Where was the Eastern Uttar Pradesh. necessity for the Central Minister to come .&here and make some political speeches and interfere with the local administration and the state Government? When the Floods hit North Bihar every year. Shri elected representatives are there in the Raghuma Reddy has spoken about the State, when the State Government is there, drought which has hit successively for 4 t~ you sent your Minister of State for Industrv, 5 years. In the same way, North Bihar and Disc. re: Drought, 490 489 Disc re: Drought, AGRAHAYANA, 3,1909 (SAKA) e Floods and Cyclone Floods and Cyclo!1 ~ Eastern Uttar Pradesh. ~ave been hit by rupees every year and we continue to look floods successively for almost 10 years and towards the Governments of Nepal. it is we have not able to find a permanent the responsibility of the I Napalese solution to this problem. The Central Government to find a permanent solution Government does give Central assistance to the problem. Discussion has taken place to the State Governments as a short-term time and again in this august House to the measure but it does not have a long-term effect that it is upto the Napalese effect. If the money that we spend every Government to find a solution to our year on floods and drought reliefs as short- problems related to floods. The Central term measure is spent on long-term Government did take up the matter with measures, I think, we will be successful in the Government of Nepal in the past, but it finding a permanent solution of the has yielded no result. I know that no problem. immediate solution can be found in this regard between the two Governments. It About Ganga-Cauveri project, Shri requires a lot of time. But the way the Raghuma Reddy has said that the cost of floods cause sufferings every year, what the project which initially was Rs.13 reply can we give to the people? Should thousand crores has now risen to Rs.44 we say that the Government of Nepal is thousand crores. Due to non-availability of not agreeang to our proposal and, funds, we put off the entire project every therefore, we are not able to find a five years. What I mean to say is that we permanent solution to this problem? are putting off the long term measures merely due to shortage of funds but we We construct roads and culverts every contanue to spend the same amount of year under NREP and R.L.E.G.P. We funds on short-term measures. AfteraII, for conSider that our responsibility ends once how long shall we be able to satisfy the roads or culverts are constructed. We ourselves through such measures? All that I do not bother that on the one hand, we want to say is that earlier we did not have construct them and on the other, they are 13 thousand crores rupees and today we washed away by the floods. The next year, do not have 44 thousand crores rupees and the same road and the culverts are ten years hence when the project cost will constructed again. Thus, money is spent on escalate to Rs. One lakh crores, we shall not the same road and the same culvert every be having that much amount. But in this year. Every year, the Centre gives process, how many times we have spent assistance and margin money to the State Rs. 13 thousand crores in the last 40 years? Governments and every year these funds Had we paid attention to it. I think, today are spent on the same roads and culverts. we would have been in a position to We should go in for a permanent solution complete the Ganga-Cauveri project. We instead. If provision for money cannot be just put off the execution of the project by made in the Seventh Plan, the same can be saying where from so much money will done in the Eighth Plan. The Government come. But if we consider over the benefit will have to do something in this regard. that this project is going to give to a Eastern Uttar Pradesh, West Bengal and number of States we will find that with the Assam are affected by floods every year. money already spent on short term The river Brahmaputra overflows every measures during the last 40 years, we year. As all the rivers are full, they start would have been able to complete even overflowing whene\ er the water level rises bigger projects than Ganga-Cauveri. Under and the land g~5 eroded. Obviously the short-term measures, we start digging a villages and settlements will get destroyed. well after the fire breaks out, and by the Every year people from Nepal ~t washed time the well is dug, the devastation away by floods and their corpses reach our caused by fire can be easily imagined. territory. Last year at least 1500 dead Where have we reached by digging wells bodies of Nepalis came floating in the and taking out water in this manner? Our rivers in our areas. Because they were problems continue to remain as before citizens of Nepal, no records are kept in The floods cause damage worth creres of ourcounby. 491 Disc. re: Drought, NOVEMBER 24, 1987 DIsc. re: Drought, 492 I Roods and Cye/one Floods and Cyclone [Shri Manoj Pandey] The Covemrnent rJ _ has suffered considerable losses this year on account of Therefore, I want to request that first floods. Whenever floods come, Central you must pay attention in findings a assistance is granted for relief purposes. pennanent solution. If you divert the water Efforts are made to provide relief to every of river Ganga to Cauveri, during floods you victim but relief work is never done can release excess water of Ganga into the properly because of misuse of funds. The Cauveri, which at that time has very less scale of irregularities committed in this water. On the one hand, this will reduce regard is increasing every year. If Central the horror of floods in the Gangetic area Govemments extends assistance on the and on the other hand, Cauveri will get basis of margin-money for soine item in the sufficient water due to this arrangement. In flood areas then that amount should be this way you can get double benefit out of a utilised for that purpose only. single scheme. The most important point is Unfortunately, there are some states which that the rivers of North overflow every misuse these funds. Funds are diversified. year. Therefore it is essential to deliberate on this subject. I want to urge the hon. Minister through you that he should direct 17.04 hrs. the State Governments that whatever funds are prOVided for relief should be spent for that purpose only and it is very essential to [SHRIMATI BASAVARAJESWARI in the ensure that funds are not utilised for any Chair1 other purpose. Otherwise funds will continue to be misused as it is happening We should finalise our talks with the every year. The hon. Minister has referred Government of Nepal at the earliest. We to several States in this connection in the should make special efforts in this House. I would like to refer about Bihar. direction. It is possible that the Bihar suffered losses this year for which Government of Nepal may not agree. I can Central assistance of about Rs.600 crores give one political reason for it. On the basis was demanded. OUf margin money is of the information which we have received about Rs.35 crores and Rs.35 crores have from across the borders, I want to infonn already been spent. Rs.loo crores were the hon. Minister that Government of required immediately. But unfortunately, N~pal has set up several projects in we have received only Rs.62 crores so far. collaboration with Chinese Government to As per my information 26 districts of Bihar contain the overflow of water and for are affected by floods completely. The State constructing reservoirs. The flow of water Government has requested for additional is stopped until the reservoirs get filled up funds for this purpose. I want to submit and then the water is released. In this way that arrangements should be made for excess water flows into our country and granting additional sums as Central submerges the border areas. Thus, such assistance so that people can feel relieved schemes of the Government of Nepal are from the horror of floods. ruinous for us. I will give a striking example of it. The Nepal Government is fully aware of the washing away of thousands of its SHRIMATI PRABHAWATI GUPTA citizens in our country in the floods which (Motihari): Madam Chairman, hon. Shri occurred last year. Nepal never infonned Dinesh Goswami has given the opportunity us about it. This is the kind. of politics going to the House to hold a discussion on on in this region and there is need to natural calamities like floods and 'drought consider it with international angle. In this through a special mention. way, we should think of tackling the problem of floods in ...our area and if we are I want to inform you that even before being affected by floods occurring in other the present drought another areas, then it is essential to pay attention to unprecedented drought had occurred them as well. which had affected threefourth population 493 Disc Ie: Drought, AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAKf\) Disc. re: Drought, 494 Roods and Cye/one Floods and Cvdone of the country. Apart from droughts, Bengal would like to inform yOu about them by Bihar, Assam and Meghalaya have faced reciting a couplet and it is as follows: devastating floods by which our entire economic system has gone haywire. Just "Kare khanabadoshi kl khida khud now Shri Goswami submitted that khansama ne, Ki har shabpe nay manzil, devastating floods occurred in Assam but naya dana, naya pani':. no one in bothered about it and Central Government is also not concerned. He has This is the condition of these people but referred to the Brahamputra project in this the Government is not bothered. They are connection. As regards the devastating roaming about like nomads. Their houses floods which damaged the national have been destroyed and I think if we get highways and which disrupted the traffic in the statistics regarding Bihar, we will find the upper and lower regions of Assam, we that not only cattle but also several human fully sympathies with him. It is true that lives have been lost. The Gandak area in these areas are always affected by Bihar is very fertile and this has been devastating floods. Bengal was also flooded proved after testing the soil. But today the but it was Bihar which faced fury of un- situation is deplorable. Near famine precedented floods this year. I have been conditions exist in Bihar. I want to ask as to engaged in social work for the last 32-35 why such calamities occur even after forty years and I get a Jot of opportunity to tour years of independence. Apart from the villages. But the magnitude of floods' this floods and droughts which occur regularly, year and also last year was such that the cyclones also hit the region at times. A entire area was submerged and it seems devastating cyclonic storm struck our area that 3 crores people out of the total recently and its speed was greater than population of about 7 crores in these areas that of an aeroplane. Thousands of houses were affected. It led to a considerable loss were destroyed (Interruptions) ... of life and property. The Hon. Prime Minister visited those areas and we are Mr. Chairman, Sir, please give me time. happy that he took a serious view of both The situation in that area is Critical. these problems. A subcommittee of the Cabinet was set up at the Central level and I want to submit one more point. the situation was assessed every week and Dun the year 1986-87, Rs. 4762 crores all possible assistance was extended. The were required to meet the problem of Members of the Cabinet also went there. It floods and drought but the Centre has is a matter of happiness that both the sanctioned only Rs.609 for the whole Ministers of Agriculture are present here. country. Will this amount be suffiCient for But I think that along with the hone providing adequate relief to the flood and Minister of Agriculture, the hon. Minister of the drought affected areas of the entire Irrigation should also have been present. country? It will not suffice. Floods occur in Our region was also affected by drought the month of August. Government should and cyclonic st~nns to which I will refer make all arrangements for boats before the later. A large population was affected by floods come but it does not do so as a these calamities. I think the hon. Minister result of which the situation becomes of Supplies should have been present here critical. The assistance of the army is taken, as well because these natural calamities supply boats are pressed into service and have led to prices of the commodities food packets are air dropped. Why do not going sky high in the whole country. Hence you find a permanent solution to the he should also be involved with the issue. problem? You should find a solution. Everyday it is announced that prices will be brought down but I don't think that it'has The Kosi river valley project was happened so far. The people living in the fonnulated for Bihar. The kosi river is called capital, in the metropolitan cities and in the river of sorrow of Bihar. It is like a river other urban areas are able to get two in China which used to bring sorrow there. square meals a day but as regards the A dam was constructed to control floods. conditions prevailing in the villages, I But what is the situation today. I think the 495 Disc. re: Drought, NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Disc. re: Drought, \ 496 Floods and Cyclone Roods and Cyclone I [Shrimati Prabhawati Gupta) tet:ut there dnd one day enti~e land would be submerged. embankments have become quite old and no longer serve their purpose. The level Secondly, I would like to submit that the there has been reduced. No steps were scheme concerning West Kosi Canal and ever taken to repair them. This East Kosi Canal is still pending. This Government has not taken any measures in scheme should be got implemented this direction. The people of these area through Nepal Government. have been left to get drowned. What do you want to do in this respect? How will [English] you solve this problem? Considerable sums for relief purposes are granted but why MR. CHAIRMAN: Please conclude, does not the Government utilise these Madam. You have already exhausted your funds to repair the embankments? In these time. embankments gaps have been left in our area. We have been raising the issue for [Translation] the last 25 years in the Bihar Assembly and we have been doing the same here also but SHRI P.NAMGYAl (Ladakh): As a several the emabankments have not been hon. Members are yet to speak on the repaired. Why the gaps have been left in subject discussion on it should continue this way? I want to submit one more point. tomorrow also. Our Champaran area is very fertile. It is situated in the foothills of Nepal. These DR. G.S. RAJHANS (Jhanjharpur): It is areas can become the granary of the very essential. nation. But the floods which occur here these are unprecedented. When days I [English] went to may constituency, thousands of people came to visit me and said that MR. CHAIRMAN: I have been very although these areas are flood prone, the liberal. floods which have occurred this year were on a scale as Was never witnessed before. What is the reason for the occurrence of [Translation] such devastating floods today? Why does Govemment spend crores for setting up SHRIMATI PRABHAWATI GUPTA: dams and stalling the natural flow of rivers? Madam Chairman, I would like to submit to I want to submit that till the Gandak you that the people of district Pumea and project is completed, the areas of Khagria are in great difficulty. The people of Champaran, Muzaffarpur, Samastipur and Samastipur are also facing difficulty. Entire Khagaria will continue to be flooded Bihar is being submerged in water. I would resulting in devastation all over these like to submit to the House today that the areas. Central Government should take effective steps there. Measures should be taken to I would like to urge the Central save us and protect our lives. You should Govemment that it should ensure the not leave us at the mercy of the God. You completion of Gandak Drainage Scheme. should not let us tum homeless. This river The Gandak Drainage Scheme is still which originates from Nepal, inundates the pending. This scheme would require an entire area. The Central Government investment of Rs.1 50 crores. I am confident should hold talks with the Nepal that the World Bank may also sanction Government to control the water of these funds for this Scheme. If funds are not rivers and should construct the reservoirs available in lumpsum, a scheme in different in those areas. Crores of rupees are spent phases may be fonnulated and by by the Government in these areas for completing the scheme in phases, the providing relief. Can you not complete problems should be solved. If the problem these projects? These projects should be is not solvetf, the floods will continue to got completed. 497 Disc. re: Drought, AGRAHAYANA3, 1909 (SMJ\) Disc. re: Drought, 498 Floods and Cyclone Roods and Cycld'ne Now I ' would like to speak about Ing. Uke that there is a Badshah for our cyclones. On 19th of October, a very country. According to the reports dle serious cyclone hit the Champaran area. exptnditure for the purpose of going to We used to hear that cyclone hit Madras or CHOGM-when this country was in the Andhra Pradesh, regions but on 17th of this grip ot drought and everyone was crying month I visited each and every village in here just like the lady Member wtto cried my area and saw that the houses of the just earlier--our Govemment spent Rs.1S people have been destroyed and huts have crores-for attending CHOGM There were completely vanished. Two hundred people two Air India flights. One flights was have been injured and 6 or 7 people have decorated with bed room and dining room. died. You can imagine the severity of the (Interruptions) All this has come in the cyclone just by the fact that a jeep which Press. If this is what is happening .... was running un the national highway, turned topsy turvy and was thrown away SHRI RAM SINGH YADAV (Alwar): by the storm in the fields nearby. The These are unrealistic allegatiOns. There is assistance which has been provided by the no base for them. These allegation should Government is inadequate. The area which not form part of the record. has been affected by cyclone is a backward area inhabited by the poor and Harijan (Interruptions) farmers and the landless labourers. The State Government should be directed to PROF. N.G. RANGA (Guntur): In the supply free rations for at least two months same way you are saying these things in an and to write off their at least a sum of irrelevant manner. Rs.10,OOO to each family should be sanctioned to them to reconstruct their SHRI THMiPAN THOMAS: I gave it in houses and huts. A sum of hundred rupees writing to the hon. Speaker. would not be sufficient. (Interruptions) No reply is given. After seeing a news- I am stating the miserable condition item, I had given an adjournment motion which I saw there myself. I demand that on this. pennanent measures be taken there. (Interruptions) MR. CHAIRMAN: Don't made personal allegation. You continue on drought and Gandak Drainage Scheme should be floods. implemented, otherwise the economy of Bihar would crumble. Prospects of Rabi SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: I want to crop are also not good. The pOSition of know. During the drought situation in this power supply 15 far from satisfactory. Tube country, money is looted by these people. wells are out of order. Electricity should be That is what I am bringing to your notice. supplied to them so that there could be proper irrigation of the fields. Transmitters MR. CHAIRMAN: You speak on drought should be operated $0 that people could and floods. No personal allegation. yet some relief. Gandak Drainage Scheme and Kosi Canal Project should be sanctioned immediately. With these words I conclude and hope that the suggestions SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: No, I am which I have given would be considered by not speaking anything personal. I gave in the Central Government. writing. This was also raised in the Rajya Sabha. , have made a submission on the (English) basis of the report which have come in the Press. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS (Mavelikara): Madam Chainnan, once upon a time there was an Emperor called Nero. He was SHRI RA.M SINGH YADAV (Aiwar): What singing on his fiddle when Rome was bum- is the authenticity of that report? 499 Disc. re: Drought, NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Disc. re: Drought, 500 Roods and Cyclone ,Floods and Cye/one SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: It is very When we compare this with other much relevant. If you are spending money countries, What is the position of our in ttle name ofclrought, you are answerable country? What is the rate of increase in to tIIfs House. these things? In my country, the per capital income rose only by .06 per cent during MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Thomas, why the last year. What is the meaning of this? don't you speak on the subject? Where does the money gol Is India a poor country? No, it is not a poor country. It has SHRI l;HAMPAN THOMAS: Madam, I got enough resources. am speaking on the subject.

am pointing out the misuse of the I If these are property managed and used, money and politicalising the issue of the people of this country can have a drought by the persons who are in power decent living provided they have any vision in this country. and attempt to do that. Instead of tliat, what I feel is that the administrators--the (Interruptions) people in power--are misusing the power and also misusing the funds of our country. SHRI SOMNATH RATH (Aska): How is it connected?

(Interruptions) I also find that they are politicalising the issue of drought. What happened in SHRI RAM SINGH YADAV: It is an Nagaland? There was no drought in allegation. He cannot be allowed. Nagaland. The situation waS quite different there. A new-sitem has been published in SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: How can it . the Indian Express saying that on the basis be expunged? of a letter sent by the Government of India, (Interruptions) the Nagaland Government prepares a memorandum and gives it just before the MR. CHAI RMAN I will go through the election. It has been asked in the records. You continue your speech. newspaper whether it is a drought relief or a political relief. If there is no drought and SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: I have been money is channelised there just before the interrupted by my friends. election for getting the votes, it is only misuse of funds. MR. CHAIRMAN: No, no; I will see that they don't interrupt. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: Certainly you must be sorry for the results of Nagaland election. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: The point is that there is misuse of money at this SHRI RAM SINGH YADAV: We pity you. juncture by this Government for irrelevant This is only political frustration and nothing things. Always we have' a ritu~1 her~. else. People come here crying and beatang their (Interruptions) chests and asking the Central Government: Pay money, pay money and all that. What MR. CHAIRMAN: The Minister will reply is happening to the Ganga-~ery while giving his reply. Why do you project? Have you had any perspectIVe of interpret like that? that? Have you taken any steps to implement that project? What is the po- (Interruptions) sition of this country? In my State, Kerala, the per capital income is only Rs. 127. In MR. CHAIRMAN: Why do you interfere? Bihar, it is Rs. 97. What is the world average? (Interruptions) 501 Disc re: Drought, AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAIV\) Disc. re: Drought, S02 Roods and Cyclone Roods and Cyclone MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Yadav, pfease Whether they have extended any resume your seat. The Minister will reply ... assistance? How much money has been (/nte"uptions)... He wants to say taken from the World Bank and in tum something. distributed to various states. Seeing that ~ this country is in the grip of drought, can SHRI RAM SINGH YADAV: Has they promise to help us? I am afraid that if Nagaland Government got no right to such a situation continues, we may have to submit the memorandum? face the experience of Ethiopia and other (Interruptions) African countries. What happened in Orissa, Kalahandi? About 400 people died MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Thomas, please as they could not get drinking water. And proceed. what was the experience of my State?

SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA (Balasore): I SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: I want strongly object to it. How do you know it? answers from the Minister on the points which I have raised because Nagaland was (Interruptions) not having a drought. For what purpose the money was given to Nagaland? Please AN HON. MEMBER: Kalahandi is in my explain it. State. That is not correct. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) You are politicising the issue. The Minister went round the States and made MR. CHAIRMAN: Why do you interrupt statements. You have to put a brake on him1 that.

THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (DR. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: Sir, because C. S. DHillON: Madam, I will not take a of the absence of drinking water people are note of such irrelevant matters being dying. And that is witnessed by us. There is introduced in the debate. What has the no explanation for it. Nagaland elections to do with itl What has this travel business to do with Itll will not (Interruptions) reply to you unless you are relevant. MR. CHAIRMAN: Whatever you want to (Interruptions) say you can say it later on. Don't interrupt him. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: I can show you the Press Report. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: When the present State Government, the left (Interruptions) Democratic Government came to power, it spent Rs.66 crores for the purpose of SHRI RAM SINGH YADAV: Indian making water available to people. Do you Express is the" gospel for the Opposition. know how much does my State contribute to the Central exchequer by the export of MR. CHAIRMAN: let him continue, do Pepper, ginger, tea, coffee etc1 About 14 not interfere. per cent of the total revenue of foreign exchange comes from my State. But in SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: My point is return what benefit are you giving? I am that when the country is in the grip of not asking for anybody's mercy. Give us drought no earnest attempt has been made our due share. But it has not been given by by the ..Government to meet the situation the Central Government. Instead they are permanently. The Hon. Minister should spending this money for the various other bring to the notice of the House the purposes, which I have just now explained. measures taken by them in this regard. They spend money for CHOGM and for S03 Disc. re: Draught, NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Disc. re: Drought, 504 Flood and Cyclone Roods and Cyclone (Shri Thampan ThomasJ in the sense that once it is affected, It will be affected for ever. For example, take the fighting in Sri lanka. About Rs.20 crores per case of peppervines. Pepper is an item day they are spending for fighting in Sri which is exported and the nation gets a lot lanka. I strongly object to it. When the of money through pepper exports. ~e people in our own country are crying for price of pepper has gone up from Rs.12 to water you are spending Rs.20 crores per Rs. 68. But now, there is no pepper crop day in Sri Lanka. Therefore, I submit that and it will take at least another five years to this Government is not making any effort get the next crop. What about coconut? towards this end. I would like to have an Once a coconut tree is damaged, you have explanation on this. My State Government to replant the trees and only after seven has presented a memorandum. The Chief years, it yields fruit and it will take nearly Minister came here and presented the 10 to 15 years to get the benefits from this memorandum. It is with him. He can crop. I would like to know the manner in answer to it. I do not want to point out the which these losses are evaluated. How are memorandum here but I want to bring to these losses reimbursed? Are the methods the notice of the House the manner .n of evaluation reviewed? Nothing of this which they have acted. They have alienated sort is done. I submit that the studies made the non Congress states in extending the in this regard by the Government of India benefits. They have taken the share of the were not proper. They are unnecessarily people and misused the money. I would politicising all these issues rather than like to have an answer to this point. As my helping the people. We want an hon. friend said we are weaping for the explanation from the Minister. money ~nd only the lip service is done. But what they have done? How much SHRI SOMNATH RA1H , (Aska): The assistance have they given? How much country has faced the worst drought in the money have they saved by not spending living memory. It is severed in terms of its the money unnecessarily? What priority has spread and magnitude. Many States in- been given to the drought? 38 per cent of cluding Orissa and at least two Union the population is still below the poverty Territories are hit by the drought in line. different degrees. About 265 districts are affected by drought

Our Prime Minister, Shri Rajiv Gandhi The poor shepherds and other people was the first person in the country to in Rajasthan have to walk from one place express his concerned over the drought. to another and lead a nomadic life in The moment, the Centre realised the search of water. On the way, both the gravity of the drought situation, it has taken cattle and men die. That is the situation in steps to mobilise resources inside and Rajasthan. We know the situation in outside the country and before any report Kalahandi very well. There are pictures all reached from the States and before a final over which depict the situation in these assessment was made available to the drought affected areas. But we are ,!,ore Central Government, Rs.BO crores have concerned with all the other things. been given to different States on an ad hoc Therefore, what I submit is very relevant. basis. The Prime Minister has visited every What are the priorities of this Government? nook and comer of the country affected by is the manner in which the Central What drought and he discussed with the State Government is going to share the Government's minister and officials and resources with various States? also suggested the action to be taken so that the demands of the people could be I know the problems of my State. met. It is but natural that sometimes, states Earlier, my State had never faced the may inflate their demands. problem of drought. But, since the last two years, there is drought consecutively. The Madam, I want to know one point from pattern of aaltivation in my State is peculiar the hon. Minister. It is the Central 50s Disc re: Drought, ACRAHAYANA 3, 1909 (SAIG-\) Disc. re: Drought, 506 Roods and Cyclone Floods and Cyclone Govemment which gives funds to State hOW, after heavy rains and cyclone. So, the Governments. But is there an}' agency to people are suffering very much. The see whether the funds allocated by the Central Government should not give grants Central Government are utilised for the en bloc to the states. Let them give these titended purpose and it reaches the funds to such areas where the people are persons who are worst affected by the worst hit and let the magnitude or severity drought? I also suggest that some steps of the drought be taken into consideration, should be t;lken to assess the intensity of failing which, it will be misutilised or the problem in detail in each State in diverted to some other purpose, and we consultation with the State Ministers as cannot solve the problem. The worst well as officials and provide relief affected people will not get the benefit, accordingly. I also suggest that action though the intention of the Centre and the should be taken to give immediate relief to Prime Minister is that, they should get drought affected areas and to take benefit of the funds allotted. All our pro- permanent measures to devise ways to grammes fail because of defective stop misutilisation and diversion of funds, implementation and diversion of funds. States s~ould provide higher assistance to Steps should be taken to stop it. The those areas which are affected most, rather problem of drinking water should be given than to those areas which are normally high priority. The funds given by the Centre affected. Funds, subsidies, foodgrains, are not spent on time, proper infrastructure agricultural inputs, nutrients, etc. should be is not created and as such the agency supplied through the States, but it must which I have suggested should be created. reach the needy people of affected areas and it should not be misutilised. Giving I want to submit one more thing and timely succour to those who need it is an that is regarding the guidelines. The Centre important factor. For the information of the only offer guidelines to the State han. Minister, Rs. 50 crores was given by Governm~nts to work out the plans but it the Centre to the Orissa Government. is for the states to implement. Orissa is a very badly affected state due to drought. My district--Ganjam-which is an SHRI GIRDHARI tAL VYAS (Bhilwara): agriculrural district is worst affected. I am Why don't you lay the paper on the Table saying not because it is my distnct, but I of the House. am saying on the basis of the report of the Government. The hon. Prime Minister has SHRI SOMNATH RATH: The agency also visited that district. It would have been should be created to examine how best better, if he would have been taken to the these funds are utilised. other worst drought affected parts of Ganjam district. After that, followup action There should be a National Natural is not upto the mark. less than Rs. one Calamity Commission. What we require are crore has been given to that district. permanent measures to fight droughts and floods. We have got river valleys, water There were 13 districts in Orissa. basins and perennial rivers in our country. Regarding drinking water also, the money At the meeting of Water Resources, the allotted was less than what was allotted Prime Minister has said that the rivers during the normal years. The district should be connected, as also the river suffered from drought. Some rabi crop was valleys and nver basins in different States. raised with great difficulty. But later spoile This work should be given priority. The due to rain in Ganjam district if bucket of money that is given to fight drought, water is given to the cultivators, they will should not be spent for constructing give a bucket of rice or a bucket of unmetalled roads which are easy to vegetables. The people there are very construct and quick to be destroved. hardworking. The Prime Minister had also appreciated their hardwork the cultivators are not getting the seeds. The little rabi The hon. Minister should also see that crop which was raised is washed away priority is given, while fighting droughts, to 501 Disc. re: DrOught, NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Disc. re: Drought, 508 Roods and Cyclone Floods and Cyclone [Shri Somnath Rath] should be completed, and more money should be given. Steps should be taken for the most important inputs for the success the construction of the Indravati project. of agricultural operations. India is endowed Money meant for construction of with powerlul perennial rivers. There is Harbhangi project has gone up from R9r?J> also an ocean of water lying hidden crores to Rs. 43 crores. Rs.4 crores are underground in the river valleys. It is available, but this amount has not been estimated, with the present technology utilized so far. The Bhagua project is that is available, that an irrigation potential continuing for 25 year now. Only the of 130 million hectares can be developed salaries of employees, are being paid; and as follows: nothing ·has come up. The construction of the main dam has not started. Similarly 58.5 million hectares Major and Biluamara, Kupati and other projects which medium have been included in the 7th Plan, should schemes be taken up. Government of I ndia should give instructions to the State Governments Minor irriga- to implement all these minor irrigation 55.0 million hectares tion schemes projects at an early date. Total 113.5 million hectares Thank you. With the development of technology, this figure is expected to be 148.5 million SH RI MADAN PAN DEY (Gorakhpur): hectares; but upto the end of the 6th Plan, Madam, Chainnan, before I say something only 68 million hectares of irrigation I would like to congratulate the Ministry of potential could be developed. For the 7th Agriculture for three things. First, I would Plan, it is proposed to have another 13 congratulate them for presenting before us million hectares of irrigation potential. If a statement given us the details of the real we go by this speed, I think we will reach condition of drought and floods in the our target... country and on the basis of which we have been able to get an opportunity to have a SHRI YOGENDRA MAK\tVANA: Why discussion on the situation. Secondly, I don't you mention the amounts allocated would like to congratulate them that in the 1st and 2nd Plans? despite the most severe famine of the century this year, not even a single person SHRI SOMNATH RATH: I am coming to has been allowed to die of hunger. Thirdly, that. We can reach our target, as I said I would congratulate them that they appear earlier, only by 2,000 AD. Efforts must be to listen to our points very patiently and m:ade to develop the irrigation potential at appear to be in a mood to take a decision a much more rapid pace; and if necessary, on them. funds should be diverted for this purpose, and priority should be given to this. Madam, it appears to me that Shri Goswami had tried to raise the level of Tht 7th Plan suggests that only the present discussion, but some Members of ongoing major and medium irrigation the opposition are trying to lower its level. projects should go on; and to some extent, In stead of bringing in politics in this issue, minor projects can be constructed. If that is it would have been better if the Opposition so, how are we fight droughts and floods? would have given some unanimous suggestions to the Government so that this The water that flow into the ocean problem could have been solved causing havoc during floods can be utilized pennanently. for irrigation purposes; and more resources should be allocated to speed up the I would like to submit most humbly to development of the irrigation potential. In the hon. Minister and the Government that this comection, I would appeal to the hon. despite 40 years of our independence, if Minister that ongoing projects in Orissa we still depend on nature for our crops, it 509 Disc re: Drought, AGRAHAYANA 3, 1909'(SAIV\) Disc. re: Drought, 510 Floods and Cyclone Floods and Cyclone is not a matter of' pnde for us. It is a fact projects·at various places reservoirs would that we have not allowed the. people to die be constructed and the problems of of starvation, hut today half the country is drought and floods would not arise. We reeling under the flood and the other half should think in this direction. l~ the country is facing drought. These are two sides of the coin. We had started our Immediate relief you have prOVided. It is efforts 40 years batk, but despite 40 years all right. Whatever you could afford, you of our efforts we have not been able to have provided. If possible, some additional solve these problems. If we go through the help should also be provided. We have got records of rainfall and the weather for the aid from the World Bank and Japan and last 20 or 25 years, we will find that there some other sources. In this period of crisis, have been changes in it. I would like to whatever help is available to us from any give you the example of district of quarter, we should accept it and prOVide it Gorakhpur. The average rainfall in district to the affected people. But these are only Gorakhpur which used to be 60 inches has interim measures. You should pay your come down to 36 or 40 inches and that too special attention to the long term is uncertain. As I belong to Gorakhpur, I measures. It is not proper, if we start am, therefore, aware of figures of thinking only when there is flood and Gorakhpur, but if you go through the drought in the country. I would like to fugures of rainfall of the entire country, you submit most humbly that we should think would find that there has been radical at that time also when there are no floods change in the cycle of rainfall throughout and drought in the country. the country. I would also like to submit to the hon. Second point which requires Minister that many of our Members of this consideration is that except rivers of South side and the other side have made a India, all our rivers have their origin in mention of Ganga and Cauvery. I am foreign countries. As Shri Goswami was myself not an engineer, but Ganga Cauvery saying that about 3/ 4th part of river project wast formulated by an engineer Brahmaputra passes through Tibet and who has foutunately been Member of this when it comes here, it brings untold House also. He has given many miseries for the people of Assam and suggestions in this regard. I want that the Bangladesh. Ministry should extract those suggestions from the files and examine them. As we Though we can say that Ganga and have formed power grid, similarly, if we Yamuna have their origins at Gangotri and want to protect the country from the Yamunatori respectively which are in our drought and the floods, we would have to country, but Kosi and Gandak rivers have form water grid also. The Members may their origins in Nepal and these rivers give their suggestions as to what should be create havoc in the North India. We would, its structure. We should seek the opinion therefor, have to find a solution to this of the experts in the field. Even if we spend problem. I would like to request the hon. the entire outlay of one Five Year Plan on Minister to be serious about it. But if even this item of work, it would be worthwhile. after 40 years of independence, he looks If we solve the food problem and the towards nature for help, the problem problem of the people affected by the cannot be solved. We have to change this drought and the floods, we can afford to situation. Big schemes have been wait a little bit for the solution of other formulated. Near Gorakhpur, a reservoir problems. can be constructed in between the portion of land belonging to Nepal between Rapti I n the end, I would like to submit to the and Ghaghra. Talks should be held with hon. Minister that the grants which he has Nepal Government in this regard. Though given to the States, needs to be increased. talks have been held in this regard earlier The State to which I belong has 57 also, but these have not been finalised. districts. Out of them, S5 districts have With the construction of river valle), been officially declared drought affected, 511 Disc. re: Drought, NOVEMBER 24, 1987 Disc. re: Drought,' 512 Roods and Cyclone Floods and Cyclone [Shri Madan Pandey] appropriate that the Govemment should take over this responsibility and we should but remaining two districts have not been admit this fact that even after forty years of declared drought affected which includes independence, we have not been able to my district also. The districts which have check the damage being done by ~e not been declared drought affected should drought and the floods. It is failure of tt.t also be declared so, because if one place Government. The floods and the drought catches fire, adjoining cannot remain cannot be prevented but these are causing unaffected. Therefore, these districts huge losses to the country. should also be given equal amount of assistance which is being given to other drought affected districts. I hope the suggestions which I have given would be [English] considered by the hone Minister and the Govemment and this problem would be MR CHAIRMAN: You can continue solved in the next Five Year Plan. tomorrow.

With these words, I again express my thanks to you. 18.01 hrs.

SHRI VIjOY KUMAR YADAV (Nalanda): . The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Eleven Madam Chairman, the subject of today's of the Oock on Wednesday, November 25, discussion flood and drought is quite 1987/~rahayana 4, 1909 (Saka) important in so far as the development of the country and its future is concemed. It is

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