Appendix F: List of Commission Meetings and Programs

I. Formal Meetings and Programs of the Commission

January 10, 1995 First Meeting of the Commission, U.S. Capitol, Room S-116 Election of Chairman and Vice Chairman and Commissioner introductions

March 30, 1995 Second Meeting of the Commission, U.S. Capitol, Room S-116 Commissioners are sworn in by Mr. Calvin R. Snowden, U.S. General Services Administration; Speakers: Mr. Steven Garfinkel, Director, Information Security Oversight Office; and Mr. Jeffrey H. Smith, Partner, Arnold and Porter, and Chairman of the Joint Security Commission

May 17, 1995 Third Meeting of the Commission, U.S. Capitol, Room S-116 Speakers: Ms. Regina Genton, Director of Intelligence Programs, National Security Council; Mr. Steven Garfinkel, Director, Information Security Oversight Office; Dr. John Earl Haynes, ; and Dr. Harvey Klehr, Emory University

June 20, 1995 Fourth Meeting of the Commission, U.S. Capitol, Room S-116 Speakers: The Honorable John W. Carlin, Archivist of the United States, National Archives and Records Administration, accompanied by other senior Archives officials; and Dr. Harold C. Relyea, Specialist, American National Government, Congressional Research Service, Library of Congress

July 27, 1995 Fifth Meeting of the Commission, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Room SD-215 Speakers: Mr. Edward J. Appel, National Security Council; Mr. Gerald A. Schroeder, Department of Justice; Mr. Eric Biel, Commission Staff Director; and Mr. Jacques Rondeau, Commission Deputy Staff Director

October 19, 1995 Sixth Meeting of the Commission, U.S. Capitol, Room HC-4 Presentation by Commission Staff

December 6, 1995 Seventh Meeting of the Commission, U.S. Capitol, Room S-116 Speaker: Mr. Peter D. Saderholm, Staff Director, U.S. Security Policy Board

March 15, 1996 Industry Roundtable at E-Systems, Inc., Garland, TX Chairman Moynihan and Commissioners Faga, Podesta, and Sonnenberg in attendance Discussion Facilitators: Mr. John Hancock, Commission Senior Professional Staff Member; Mr. James Van Houten, Vice President for Security, Rockwell International Corporation; Mr. Kerry Redlin, Information Systems Security Specialist, Lockheed Martin Tactical

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Aircraft Systems; and Mr. David Kendrick, Manager of Defense Industrial Security Programs, E-Systems, Inc.

April 18, 1996 Industry Roundtable at Loral Federal Systems, Gaithersburg, MD Commissioners Podesta and Sonnenberg in attendance Discussion Facilitators: Ms. Shirley J. Krieger, Director of Support Services, Honeywell Space Systems Group; Mr. Daniel J. Ryan, Vice President, Science Applications International Corporation; and Mr. Marshall C. Sanders, Security Manager, TASC Systems Division

May 16, 1996 Public Access Roundtable, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, DC Chairman Moynihan and Commissioners Deutch, Faga, Fortier, Fox, Hamilton, Hume, Huntington, Podesta, and Sonnenberg in attendance Panelists: Mr. Terry Anderson, journalist and former hostage in Lebanon; Dr. Alexander DiVolpi, Argonne National Laboratory; Mr. David G. Major, Aegis Research Corporation; Mr. Paul McMasters, The Freedom Forum; Mr. Morton Halperin, Council on Foreign Relations; Dr. Anna Kasten Nelson, Assassination Records Review Board; Mr. Tom Blanton, The National Security Archive; and Mr. David Bearman, Archives and Museum Informatics

July 12, 1996 Eighth Meeting of the Commission, Library of Congress, Members Room Discussion of draft staff findings and recommendations

November 19, 1996 Ninth Meeting of the Commission, U.S. Capitol, Room S-116 Discussion of Draft Report

December 12, 1996 Tenth Meeting of the Commission, U.S. Capitol, Room S-116 Discussion of Revised Draft Report

II. Commissioner Activities and Presentations

July 11, 1995 Chairman Moynihan delivers remarks at ceremony commemorating “VENONA: Soviet Espionage Against the U.S. Atomic Energy Program,” Central Intelligence Agency

August 9, 1995 Commissioner Podesta and Commission staff visit the

August 29, 1995 Commissioner Sonnenberg and Commission staff visit the Federal Bureau of Investigation

October 12, 1995 Commissioners Hume and Fortier and Commission staff visit the U.S. Atlantic Command, Norfolk, VA

October 13, 1995 Commissioner Fortier and Commission staff visit the Department of Defense Security Institute, Richmond, VA

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November 7, 1995 Vice Chairman Combest addresses the Open Source Solutions Conference, Washington, DC

November 28, 1995 Commissioner Faga addresses the National Security Industrial Association, Crystal City, VA

November 29, 1995 Commissioner Fortier and Commission staff meet with representatives of six major industrial associations: National Security Industrial Association, American Society for Industrial Security, National Classification Management Society, Aerospace Industries Association, Contractor SAP/SAR Working Group, and Industrial Security Working Group, Rockwell, Arlington, VA

December 13-14, 1995 Commissioner Hume and Commission staff visit the Lewisburg Federal Penitentiary, Lewisburg, PA, for interview with convicted spy Ronald Pelton, and the Allenwood Federal Correctional Facility, Allenwood, PA, for interview with convicted spy Michael Walker

January 26, 1996 Commissioner Hamilton interviewed by Lesley Stahl, 60 Minutes, concerning secrecy issues

February 15, 1996 Commissioner Faga addresses the American Bar Association Standing Committee on Law and National Security breakfast, Washington, DC

February 15, 1996 Chairman Moynihan and Commissioners Faga, Hume, and Sonnenberg meet with Central Intelligence Agency officials and National Reconnais- sance Office officials at the Department of State

March 4, 1996 Chairman Moynihan addresses the Department of State’s Open Forum on “Protecting and Reducing Government Secrecy in the Information Age”

March 14, 1996 Chairman Moynihan, Commissioners Faga and Sonnenberg, and Commission staff visit Texas Instruments, Dallas, TX

March 15, 1996 Commissioners Faga and Podesta and Commission staff visit EDS (Electronic Data Systems), Plano, TX

April 10, 1996 Commissioners Hume and Sonnenberg and Commission staff visit the National Security Agency and meet with Director Lt. Gen. (USAF) and Deputy Director William Crowell

April 12, 1996 Chairman Moynihan and Commission staff visit the National Security Agency, meet with Director Lt. Gen. Minihan (USAF) and Deputy Director Crowell, and tour the National Cryptologic Museum

April 18, 1996 Vice Chairman Combest addresses the Seventh Annual National Operations Security Conference, McLean, VA

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May 28, 1996 Commissioners Fortier, Hume, and Podesta and Commission staff visit the National Security Agency and meet with Deputy Director William Crowell

July 9, 1996 Commissioner Podesta addresses the National Classification Manage- ment Society Annual Training Seminar, Baltimore, MD

August 19, 1996 Commissioner Fortier and Commission staff meet with Ambassador James Collins, Department of State

September 9, 1996 Commissioner Faga addresses the American Society of Industrial Security (ASIS) Annual Seminar, Atlanta, GA

September 10, 1996 Commissioner Fortier addresses the Seventh Annual Department of Defense Security Conference, Rockville, MD

September 13, 1996 Commissioner Podesta addresses the Center for the Study of Intelligence Conference, “The State of the Intelligence Community’s Historical Declassification Program,” National War College, Ft. McNair, Washington, DC

September 13, 1996 Chairman Moynihan addresses the American Society of Newspaper Editors luncheon, Arlington, VA

October 3-4, 1996 Chairman Moynihan delivers opening and closing remarks at the VENONA Conference, National War College, Ft. McNair, Washington, DC

November 20, 1996 Commissioner Fortier addresses the Contractor SAP/SAR Working Group at Lockheed Martin, Sunnyvale, CA

December 12, 1996 Commissioner Podesta addresses the American Society of Access Professionals’ Conference on the 30th Anniversary of the Freedom of Information Act, Rockville, MD

III. Commission Staff Activities/Presentations

September 12, 1995 U.S. Central Command, Tampa, FL

September 13, 1995 U.S. Special Operations Command, Tampa, FL

September 14, 1995 American Society of Access Professionals Freedom of Information Act Symposium, Rockville, MD

October 25, 1995 National Policy Forum, “American Competitiveness in the Information Age,” Washington, DC

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October 31- Presentation by John Hancock to the Contractor SAP/SAR and Industrial November 2, 1995 Security Working Group Conference, Sunnyvale, CA

November 6, 1995 National Military Intelligence Association Seminar, Washington, DC

November 7-9, 1995 Open Source Solutions Conference, Washington, DC

November 8, 1995 Presentation to the Information Warfare course at the National Defense University, Ft. McNair, Washington, DC

December 14, 1995 “Implications of Information Technology for U.S. National Security and Foreign Economic Policy,” Conference at Ft. McNair, Washington, DC

December 15, 1995 John F. Kennedy Presidential Library, Boston, MA

January 4, 1996 Carter Presidential Library, Atlanta, GA

January 5, 1996 American Historical Association Conference, Atlanta, GA

January 17, 1996 National Archives and Records Administration and the Department of Energy meeting with historians and public interest representatives on declassification of DoE records, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, DC

February 5-6, 1996 Personnel Security Research and Education Center (PERSEREC), Monterey, CA

February 23, 1996 Department of Defense Historical Records Declassification Advisory Panel Meeting, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, DC

March 7, 1996 Presentation by Sheryl Walter to the American Society of Access Professionals Regional FOIA Symposium, Denver, CO

March 13, 1996 Presentation by Eric Biel and John Hancock to the Industrial Security Working Group conference, Fairfax, VA

March 19, 1996 Presentation by Eric Biel to the Library of Congress/Congressional Research Service conference, Washington, DC

April 1, 1996 Presentation by Eric Biel to the National Security Institute Conference, Reston, VA

April 18, 1996 Seventh Annual Operations Security Conference, McLean, VA

May 10, 1996 Department of Defense Historical Records Declassification Advisory Panel Meeting, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, DC

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May 21-23, 1996 Second Annual Intelligence Community Information and Classification Management Conference, McLean, VA

May 22, 1996 Presentation by Sheryl Walter to the Second Annual Intelligence Community Information and Classification Management Conference, McLean, VA

May 23, 1996 Presentation by Michael Smith to the Second Annual Intelligence Community Information and Classification Management Conference, McLean, VA

May 23, 1996 Presentation by Eric Biel and John Hancock to the Non-NFIB Security Officers Conference, Tysons Corner, VA

June 6, 1996 Presentation by Eric Biel and Sheryl Walter to the Department of State’s Advisory Committee on Historical Diplomatic Documentation

June 25, 1996 Presentation by Eric Biel to Personnel Security Research and Education Center (PERSEREC) conference, “Vision 2021,” McLean, VA

June 25-26, 1996 Personnel Security Research and Education Center (PERSEREC) conference, “Vision 2021,” McLean, VA

July 2, 1996 U.S. Army Center for Lessons Learned, Fort Leavenworth, KS

July 17, 1996 Presentation by Jacques Rondeau to the Computer Security Program Managers’ Forum, National Institute of Standards and Technology, Potomac, MD

July 23-25, 1996 Controlled Access Program Oversight Committee (CAPOC) conference on the Future of SCI Control Systems, Williamsburg, VA

July 24, 1996 Department of Energy’s Openness Advisory Panel, Washington, DC

August 9, 1996 Department of Defense Historical Records Declassification Advisory Panel Meeting, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, DC

August 31, 1996 Paper by Sheryl Walter presented to the American Society of American Archivists Annual Meeting, San Diego, CA

September 13, 1996 Center for the Study of Intelligence Conference, “The State of the Intelligence Community’s Historical Declassification Program,” Ft. McNair, Washington, DC

September 16-18, 1996 Open Source Solutions Conference, Reston, VA

September 18, 1996 Presentation by Eric Biel to the Open Source Solutions conference, Reston, VA

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October 9, 1996 Presentation by Eric Biel and Sheryl Walter to the Center for International Policy Seminar on Intelligence Reform, Washington, DC

October 14-16, 1996 “An Overview of Critical Counterintelligence Issues for CIA Managers,” training conference sponsored by the Counterintelligence Center

October 22-25, 1996 Information Security Conference, Baltimore, MD

November 13, 1996 Presentation by Eric Biel to the American Society of Industrial Security DC Chapter Security Seminar, Ft. McNair, Washington, DC

November 15, 1996 Department of Defense Historical Review Declassification Advisory Panel Meeting, Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, Washington, DC

November 20, 1996 Presentation by Eric Biel to the Foreign Service Institute Political Training Seminar, Arlington, VA

December 3, 1996 Department of Energy’s Openness Advisory Panel Meeting, Washington, DC

December 5, 1996 Presentation by Sheryl Walter to the United States Information Agency Declassification Conference, Washington, DC

December 13, 1996 American Society of Access Professionals Conference on the 30th Anniversary of the Freedom of Information Act, Rockville, MD

January 3, 1997 Presentation by Sheryl Walter to the American Historical Association Annual Meeting (joint panel with the Society of Historians of American Foreign Relations), New York, NY

IV. Commission Staff Meetings

Listed below are the individuals with whom the Commission staff met during the course of its investigation (beginning in June 1995). Where the staff met with several officials from an agency or other organization (in some cases, on more than one occasion), only that agency/organization name is provided; the individuals who participated in the meeting are not listed separately. In some cases, components of a particular department or agency are listed separately (for ex- ample, the National Photographic Interpretation Center is listed separately from the Central Intelligence Agency). Finally, several individuals with whom the staff met requested that their names not be listed here. The Commission appreciates their assistance and honors their requests to remain anonymous for purposes of this report.

Agencies/Organizations Aegis Corporation Aerospace Industries Association Air National Guard American Historical Association

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Assassination Records Review Board BDM International British Security Service BTG, Inc. Carter Center, Library Center for Cryptologic History Center for Democracy and Technology Center for International Policy Center for National Security Studies Central Imagery Office Central Intelligence Agency Coca-Cola Company Community Management Staff Computer Sciences Corporation Congressional Research Service Customs Service Declassification Productivity Research Center Defense Information Systems Agency Defense Intelligence Agency Defense Investigative Service Department of Defense Department of Defense Gulf War Declassification Project Department of Defense Historical Records Declassification Advisory Panel Department of Defense Joint Staff Department of Defense Personnel Security Research Center Department of Defense POW/MIA Office Department of Defense Security Institute Department of Energy Department of Justice Department of State Department of State Historical Advisory Committee Department of the Air Force Department of the Army Department of the Navy Department of the Treasury Drug Enforcement Administration E-Systems, Inc. Embassy of Australia Embassy of Canada Embassy of the United Kingdom Federal Aviation Administration Federal Bureau of Investigation Federal Communications Commission Federation of American Scientists Foreign Broadcast Information Service Freedom Forum General Research Corporation House Government Reform and Oversight Committee Staff House National Security, International Affairs, and Criminal Justice Subcommittee Staff

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House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Staff Information Minister of Canada Information Security Oversight Office Internal Revenue Service Jaycor John F. Kennedy Presidential Library Kroll Associates Lockheed Martin Corporation Loral Federal Systems MITRE Corporation National Archives and Records Administration National Computer Security Center National Coordinating Committee for the Promotion of History National Counterintelligence Center National Cryptologic Museum National Defense University National Institute of Standards and Technology National Intelligence Council National Photographic Interpretation Center National Reconnaissance Office National Security Agency National Security Archive National Security Council Staff National Treasury Employees’ Union Natural Resources Defense Council Office of Management and Budget Office of National Drug Control Policy Planning Research Corporation PRB Associates President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board Staff Rockwell International Science Applications International Corporation Security Division, U.K. Cabinet Office Senate Committee on the Judiciary Staff Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Staff Society of American Archivists The Analytic Sciences Corporation (TASC) Treasury Board Secretariat, Government of Canada U.S. Army Center for Lessons Learned U.S. Bureau of Prisons U.S. Security Policy Board Staff Washington National Records Center Wang Corporation

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Individuals Davidson, William Aftergood, Steven Davis, Fletcher Alger, John Davis-Harding, Rene Anderson, Maynard Deer, Tim Anderson, Terry DeGraffenreid, Kenneth Andrew, Christopher Deitering, Randy Ansley, Norm Dempsey, James Appel, Edward Dempsey, Joan Armstrong, Scott Denk, Roger Bagley, James Dietrich, Lt. Col. Steve Baker, James Disher, Susan Banks, Brenda DiVolpi, Alexander Barnes, Judith Donahue, Arnold Barron, James Donlan, Matt Battaglia, Charles Dougherty, Martin Bearman, David Doyle, Kate Becker, Irv Dreyfuss, Robert Beers, Randy Eberstadt, Nicholas Bellinger, Jon Eldridge, Joseph Berman, Jerry Elliff, John Blanton, Tom Engel, Lee Bok, Sissela Epstein, Richard Bolt, Alison Ermarth, Fritz Bond, James Falcon, Lee Boorstin, Robert Fawcett, Stephanie Boswell, Eric Ferroggiarro, Will Broad, Earnest Ferrone, John Brown, Eileen Fogarty, Thomas Bruce, Jim Forbes, Marjorie Capps, Michael Forbes, Suzanne Caputo, Andrew Fradel, Jim Castillo, Joseph Freeman, Bennett Cavanaugh, James Frields, John Chambers, Marian Fuqua, Don Chance, Velecia Gaddis, John Lewis Choate, Sandra Garfinkel, Steven Christy, James Gasiewicz, Philip Cohen, Edmund Geiger, William Cohen, Sheldon Gelbar, Daniel Collins, Claudia Gelbard, Amb. Robert Collins, Amb. James Genton, Regina Cook, Blanche Wiesen Glyn-Jones, Christopher Cooney, Manus Goldberg, Don Crawford, Kent Goldberg, Stanley Crowell, William Goldman, Janlori Dalinsky, Barry Goodman, Mel Daman, Stephanie Grafeld, Peggy Davenport, Dewayne Green, Harold David, James Gries, David

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Gualtieri, Roberto Kotapish, William Guttman, Daniel Krofteck, Joseph Haag, David Kurtz, Michael Hadley, Steven Kvetkas, Jr., William Hallman, Robert Lafferty, John Halperin, Morton Lamoureux, Bernard Hammit, Harry Langbart, David Hanlon, Kathy Lapham, Anthony Harris, Gary Lattanza, Richard Harris, Jeffrey Leadbeater, J. Alan Hastings, James Lee, William Haugh, LeRoy Leonard, Michael Haynes, John Earl Levin, Michael Hayward, Robert Levine, Ed Hershberg, James Light, Paul Heusser, Roger Lilly, Jacqui Hibler, Neil Lipscomb, Thomas Hickman, Stan Locher, Jim Hickock, Gene Machak, Frank Hill, Jimmie Major, David Hitz, Frederick Mark, Edward Honts, Charles Marshall, Mary Howe, Larry Martin, Kate Howell, Beryl Matano, Albert Huff, Dick May, Ernest Huffstetler, Robert Mazer, Roslyn Huffman, Linda McDonald, Kenneth Irving, Peggy McFadden, Maj. Gen. George (USA, ret.) Jacobson, Dan McMasters, Paul Jelen, George McMenamin, Robert Johnson, Deborah McMillan, Priscilla Kaiser, Frederick McNulty, F. Lynn Kanin, David Mead, Walter Russell Kastenmeier, Robert Mellon, Christopher Katz, Steven Metcalfe, Dan Katzke, Stuart Michaelson, Avra Katzmann, Robert Miller, Page Putnam Keene, David Moore, Brig. Gen. William (USAF) Kimball, Warren Moore, John Norton Kimberly, Laura Moose, Richard King, Bob Morrell, Jim Kingsley, Don Mountcastle, Brig. Gen. John (USA) Kloss, Cynthia Mulvey, Mark Knauf, Daniel Munson, Margaret Knecht, Ronald Murray, Pat Koh, Harold Myer, Daniel Kohn, Richard Narath, Al Kornbluh, Peter Nelson, Anna Kasten Kostelnik, Maj. Gen. Michael (USAF) Nelson, Peter

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Neu, Richard Sessoms, Gayla Newberger, Stuart Sheehy, Michael Nisbet, Miriam Siebert, Bryan Norris, Genie Simonton, Andrea Nye, Joseph Skaggs, Congressman David Odom, Lt. Gen. William (USA, ret.) Slany, William Oettinger, Anthony Smith, Jeffrey Oleson, Peter Smith, Col. Linda (USAF) Oliver, James Snider, Britt Otey, Glen Spaulding, Mark Page, Cary Spaulding, Suzanne Parra, Joseph Springer, Edward Passarelli, James Steele, Robert Pastor, Robert Steinauer, Dennis Pendlebury, David Stern, Gary Pescatore, John Stern, Todd Pitcher, Sadie Stewart, Nina Pitts, William Stovel, Ferris Plesser, Ronald Straub, Christopher Porteg, Steve Studeman, Adm. William (USN, ret.) Quist, Arvin Swietlik, Craig Rademaker, Stephen Thomas, Maj. Gen. Jack (USAF, ret.) Rank, Jeffrey Timm, Howard Ray, Gerda Tippit, John Rees, Richard Tompkins, Frederick Reicher, Dan Torous, Becky Relyea, Harold Treverton, Gregory Rhenish, Barbara Truchon, Pamela Riccardi, Col. Frederick (USAF) Trulock, Notra Richelson, Jeffrey Turley, Jonathan Rigamer, Elmore Turner, Robert Rogalski, Robert Ulsch, N. McDonnell Ronan, Mary Uncapher, Mark Rosen, Col. Rick (USAF) Van Camp, Anne Rosenau, Bill Varey, James Rossman, Kenneth Waguespack, Michael Rowen, Henry Walker, Frederick Ryan, Daniel Walsh, John Saderholm, Peter Wampler, Robert Sanford, Bruce Warshaw, Richard Scalingi, Paula Watson, Peter Schauble, Jeanne Webster, Mark Schecter, Jerry Weinberg, Gerhard Schecter, Leona Weiner, Tim Schewe, Donald Wells, Linton Schmidt, Raymond Wendt, James Schroeder, Gerald White, Amb. Robert Schwartau, Winn Whitman, David Scott, R. Adm. Hugh (USN, ret.) Williams, Richard

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Wilson, Charles Winer, Jonathan Winkler, Ira Winston, Joan Wood, Lt. Gen. C. Norman (USAF, ret.) Woolsey, R. James Zubok, Vladislav Zuckerman, Michael

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