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Plato As "Architectof Science"
Plato as "Architectof Science" LEONID ZHMUD ABSTRACT The figureof the cordialhost of the Academy,who invitedthe mostgifted math- ematiciansand cultivatedpure research, whose keen intellectwas able if not to solve the particularproblem then at least to show the methodfor its solution: this figureis quite familiarto studentsof Greekscience. But was the Academy as such a centerof scientificresearch, and did Plato really set for mathemati- cians and astronomersthe problemsthey shouldstudy and methodsthey should use? Oursources tell aboutPlato's friendship or at leastacquaintance with many brilliantmathematicians of his day (Theodorus,Archytas, Theaetetus), but they were neverhis pupils,rather vice versa- he learnedmuch from them and actively used this knowledgein developinghis philosophy.There is no reliableevidence that Eudoxus,Menaechmus, Dinostratus, Theudius, and others, whom many scholarsunite into the groupof so-called"Academic mathematicians," ever were his pupilsor close associates.Our analysis of therelevant passages (Eratosthenes' Platonicus, Sosigenes ap. Simplicius, Proclus' Catalogue of geometers, and Philodemus'History of the Academy,etc.) shows thatthe very tendencyof por- trayingPlato as the architectof sciencegoes back to the earlyAcademy and is bornout of interpretationsof his dialogues. I Plato's relationship to the exact sciences used to be one of the traditional problems in the history of ancient Greek science and philosophy.' From the nineteenth century on it was examined in various aspects, the most significant of which were the historical, philosophical and methodological. In the last century and at the beginning of this century attention was paid peredominantly, although not exclusively, to the first of these aspects, especially to the questions how great Plato's contribution to specific math- ematical research really was, and how reliable our sources are in ascrib- ing to him particular scientific discoveries. -
Mathematical Discourse in Philosophical Authors: Examples from Theon of Smyrna and Cleomedes on Mathematical Astronomy
Mathematical discourse in philosophical authors: Examples from Theon of Smyrna and Cleomedes on mathematical astronomy Nathan Sidoli Introduction Ancient philosophers and other intellectuals often mention the work of mathematicians, al- though the latter rarely return the favor.1 The most obvious reason for this stems from the im- personal nature of mathematical discourse, which tends to eschew any discussion of personal, or lived, experience. There seems to be more at stake than this, however, because when math- ematicians do mention names they almost always belong to the small group of people who are known to us as mathematicians, or who are known to us through their mathematical works.2 In order to be accepted as a member of the group of mathematicians, one must not only have mastered various technical concepts and methods, but must also have learned how to express oneself in a stylized form of Greek prose that has often struck the uninitiated as peculiar.3 Be- cause of the specialized nature of this type of intellectual activity, in order to gain real mastery it was probably necessary to have studied it from youth, or to have had the time to apply oneself uninterruptedly.4 Hence, the private nature of ancient education meant that there were many educated individuals who had not mastered, or perhaps even been much exposed to, aspects of ancient mathematical thought and practice that we would regard as rather elementary (Cribiore 2001; Sidoli 2015). Starting from at least the late Hellenistic period, and especially during the Imperial and Late- Ancient periods, some authors sought to address this situation in a variety of different ways— such as discussing technical topics in more elementary modes, rewriting mathematical argu- ments so as to be intelligible to a broader audience, or incorporating mathematical material di- rectly into philosophical curricula. -
UNDERSTANDING MATHEMATICS to UNDERSTAND PLATO -THEAETEUS (147D-148B Salomon Ofman
UNDERSTANDING MATHEMATICS TO UNDERSTAND PLATO -THEAETEUS (147d-148b Salomon Ofman To cite this version: Salomon Ofman. UNDERSTANDING MATHEMATICS TO UNDERSTAND PLATO -THEAETEUS (147d-148b. Lato Sensu, revue de la Société de philosophie des sciences, Société de philosophie des sciences, 2014, 1 (1). hal-01305361 HAL Id: hal-01305361 https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-01305361 Submitted on 20 Apr 2016 HAL is a multi-disciplinary open access L’archive ouverte pluridisciplinaire HAL, est archive for the deposit and dissemination of sci- destinée au dépôt et à la diffusion de documents entific research documents, whether they are pub- scientifiques de niveau recherche, publiés ou non, lished or not. The documents may come from émanant des établissements d’enseignement et de teaching and research institutions in France or recherche français ou étrangers, des laboratoires abroad, or from public or private research centers. publics ou privés. UNDERSTANDING MATHEMATICS TO UNDERSTAND PLATO - THEAETEUS (147d-148b) COMPRENDRE LES MATHÉMATIQUES POUR COMPRENDRE PLATON - THÉÉTÈTE (147d-148b) Salomon OFMAN Institut mathématique de Jussieu-PRG Histoire des Sciences mathématiques 4 Place Jussieu 75005 Paris [email protected] Abstract. This paper is an updated translation of an article published in French in the Journal Lato Sensu (I, 2014, p. 70-80). We study here the so- called ‘Mathematical part’ of Plato’s Theaetetus. Its subject concerns the incommensurability of certain magnitudes, in modern terms the question of the rationality or irrationality of the square roots of integers. As the most ancient text on the subject, and on Greek mathematics and mathematicians as well, its historical importance is enormous. -
Theory of Forms 1 Theory of Forms
Theory of Forms 1 Theory of Forms Plato's theory of Forms or theory of Ideas[1] [2] [3] asserts that non-material abstract (but substantial) forms (or ideas), and not the material world of change known to us through sensation, possess the highest and most fundamental kind of reality.[4] When used in this sense, the word form is often capitalized.[5] Plato speaks of these entities only through the characters (primarily Socrates) of his dialogues who sometimes suggest that these Forms are the only true objects of study that can provide us with genuine knowledge; thus even apart from the very controversial status of the theory, Plato's own views are much in doubt.[6] Plato spoke of Forms in formulating a possible solution to the problem of universals. Forms Terminology: the Forms and the forms The English word "form" may be used to translate two distinct concepts that concerned Plato—the outward "form" or appearance of something, and "Form" in a new, technical nature, that never ...assumes a form like that of any of the things which enter into her; ... But the forms which enter into and go out of her are the likenesses of real existences modelled after their patterns in a wonderful and inexplicable manner.... The objects that are seen, according to Plato, are not real, but literally mimic the real Forms. In the allegory of the cave expressed in Republic, the things that are ordinarily perceived in the world are characterized as shadows of the real things, which are not perceived directly. That which the observer understands when he views the world mimics the archetypes of the many types and properties (that is, of universals) of things observed. -
On the Arrangement of the Platonic Dialogues
Ryan C. Fowler 25th Hour On the Arrangement of the Platonic Dialogues I. Thrasyllus a. Diogenes Laertius (D.L.), Lives and Opinions of Eminent Philosophers 3.56: “But, just as long ago in tragedy the chorus was the only actor, and afterwards, in order to give the chorus breathing space, Thespis devised a single actor, Aeschylus a second, Sophocles a third, and thus tragedy was completed, so too with philosophy: in early times it discoursed on one subject only, namely physics, then Socrates added the second subject, ethics, and Plato the third, dialectics, and so brought philosophy to perfection. Thrasyllus says that he [Plato] published his dialogues in tetralogies, like those of the tragic poets. Thus they contended with four plays at the Dionysia, the Lenaea, the Panathenaea and the festival of Chytri. Of the four plays the last was a satiric drama; and the four together were called a tetralogy.” b. Characters or types of dialogues (D.L. 3.49): 1. instructive (ὑφηγητικός) A. theoretical (θεωρηµατικόν) a. physical (φυσικόν) b. logical (λογικόν) B. practical (πρακτικόν) a. ethical (ἠθικόν) b. political (πολιτικόν) 2. investigative (ζητητικός) A. training the mind (γυµναστικός) a. obstetrical (µαιευτικός) b. tentative (πειραστικός) B. victory in controversy (ἀγωνιστικός) a. critical (ἐνδεικτικός) b. subversive (ἀνατρεπτικός) c. Thrasyllan categories of the dialogues (D.L. 3.50-1): Physics: Timaeus Logic: Statesman, Cratylus, Parmenides, and Sophist Ethics: Apology, Crito, Phaedo, Phaedrus, Symposium, Menexenus, Clitophon, the Letters, Philebus, Hipparchus, Rivals Politics: Republic, the Laws, Minos, Epinomis, Atlantis Obstetrics: Alcibiades 1 and 2, Theages, Lysis, Laches Tentative: Euthyphro, Meno, Io, Charmides and Theaetetus Critical: Protagoras Subversive: Euthydemus, Gorgias, and Hippias 1 and 2 :1 d. -
Ancient Rhetoric and Greek Mathematics: a Response to a Modern Historiographical Dilemma
Science in Context 16(3), 391–412 (2003). Copyright © Cambridge University Press DOI: 10.1017/S0269889703000863 Printed in the United Kingdom Ancient Rhetoric and Greek Mathematics: A Response to a Modern Historiographical Dilemma Alain Bernard Dibner Institute, Boston To the memory of three days in the Negev Argument In this article, I compare Sabetai Unguru’s and Wilbur Knorr’s views on the historiography of ancient Greek mathematics. Although they share the same concern for avoiding anach- ronisms, they take very different stands on the role mathematical readings should have in the interpretation of ancient mathematics. While Unguru refuses any intrusion of mathematical practice into history, Knorr believes this practice to be a key tool for understanding the ancient tradition of geometry. Thus modern historians have to find their way between these opposing views while avoiding an unsatisfactory compromise. One approach to this, I propose, is to take ancient rhetoric into account. I illustrate this proposal by showing how rhetorical categories can help us to analyze mathematical texts. I finally show that such an approach accommodates Knorr’s concern about ancient mathematical practice as well as the standards for modern historical research set by Unguru 25 years ago. Introduction The title of the present paper indicates that this work concerns the relationship between ancient rhetoric and ancient Greek mathematics. Such a title obviously raises a simple question: Is there such a relationship? The usual appreciation of ancient science and philosophy is at odds with such an idea. This appreciation is rooted in the pregnant categorization that ranks rhetoric and science at very different levels. -
The Function of Diorism in Ancient Greek Analysis
View metadata, citation and similar papers at core.ac.uk brought to you by CORE provided by Elsevier - Publisher Connector Available online at www.sciencedirect.com Historia Mathematica 37 (2010) 579–614 www.elsevier.com/locate/yhmat The function of diorism in ancient Greek analysis Ken Saito a, Nathan Sidoli b, a Department of Human Sciences, Osaka Prefecture University, Japan b School of International Liberal Studies, Waseda University, Japan Available online 26 May 2010 Abstract This paper is a contribution to our knowledge of Greek geometric analysis. In particular, we investi- gate the aspect of analysis know as diorism, which treats the conditions, arrangement, and totality of solutions to a given geometric problem, and we claim that diorism must be understood in a broader sense than historians of mathematics have generally admitted. In particular, we show that diorism was a type of mathematical investigation, not only of the limitation of a geometric solution, but also of the total number of solutions and of their arrangement. Because of the logical assumptions made in the analysis, the diorism was necessarily a separate investigation which could only be carried out after the analysis was complete. Ó 2009 Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved. Re´sume´ Cet article vise a` contribuer a` notre compre´hension de l’analyse geometrique grecque. En particulier, nous examinons un aspect de l’analyse de´signe´ par le terme diorisme, qui traite des conditions, de l’arrangement et de la totalite´ des solutions d’un proble`me ge´ome´trique donne´, et nous affirmons que le diorisme doit eˆtre saisi dans un sens plus large que celui pre´ce´demment admis par les historiens des mathe´matiques. -
A Mathematician Reads Plutarch: Plato's Criticism of Geometers of His Time
View metadata, citation and similar papers at core.ac.uk brought to you by CORE provided by Scholarship@Claremont Journal of Humanistic Mathematics Volume 7 | Issue 2 July 2017 A Mathematician Reads Plutarch: Plato's Criticism of Geometers of His Time John B. Little College of the Holy Cross Follow this and additional works at: https://scholarship.claremont.edu/jhm Part of the Ancient History, Greek and Roman through Late Antiquity Commons, and the Mathematics Commons Recommended Citation Little, J. B. "A Mathematician Reads Plutarch: Plato's Criticism of Geometers of His Time," Journal of Humanistic Mathematics, Volume 7 Issue 2 (July 2017), pages 269-293. DOI: 10.5642/ jhummath.201702.13 . Available at: https://scholarship.claremont.edu/jhm/vol7/iss2/13 ©2017 by the authors. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons License. JHM is an open access bi-annual journal sponsored by the Claremont Center for the Mathematical Sciences and published by the Claremont Colleges Library | ISSN 2159-8118 | http://scholarship.claremont.edu/jhm/ The editorial staff of JHM works hard to make sure the scholarship disseminated in JHM is accurate and upholds professional ethical guidelines. However the views and opinions expressed in each published manuscript belong exclusively to the individual contributor(s). The publisher and the editors do not endorse or accept responsibility for them. See https://scholarship.claremont.edu/jhm/policies.html for more information. A Mathematician Reads Plutarch: Plato's Criticism of Geometers of His Time Cover Page Footnote This essay originated as an assignment for Professor Thomas Martin's Plutarch seminar at Holy Cross in Fall 2016. -
INFINITE PROCESSES in GREEK MATHEMATICS by George
INFINITE PROCESSES IN GREEK MATHEMATICS by George Clarence Vedova Thesis submitted to the Faculty of the Graduate School of the University of Maryland in partial fulfillment of the requirements for the degree of Doctor of Philosophy 1943 UMI Number: DP70209 All rights reserved INFORMATION TO ALL USERS The quality of this reproduction is dependent upon the quality of the copy submitted. In the unlikely event that the author did not send a complete manuscript and there are missing pages, these will be noted. Also, if material had to be removed, a note will indicate the deletion. Dissertation Publishing UMI DP70209 Published by ProQuest LLC (2015). Copyright in the Dissertation held by the Author. Microform Edition © ProQuest LLC. All rights reserved. This work is protected against unauthorized copying under Title 17, United States Code ProQuest ProQuest LLC. 789 East Eisenhower Parkway P.O. Box 1346 Ann Arbor, Ml 48106 - 1346 PREFACE The thesis is a historico-philosophic survey of infinite processes in Greek mathematics* Beginning with the first emergence, in Ionian speculative cosmogony, of the tinder lying concepts of infinity, continuity, infinitesimal and limit, the survey follows the development of infinite processes through the ages as these concepts gain in clarity, -it notes the positive contributions of various schools of thought, the negative and corrective influences of others and, in a broad way, establishes the causal chain that finally led to the more abstract processes of the mathematical schools of Cnidus (Eudoxus) and Syracuse -
Plato's Epistemology
Plato’s Epistemology: a Coherent Account in Meno , Phaedo and Theaetetus Chuanjie Sheng Submitted in accordance with the requirements for the degree of Doctor of Philosophy The University of Leeds Department of Classics August 2015 II The candidate confirms that the work submitted is his own and that appropriate credit has been given where reference has been made to the work of others. This copy has been supplied on the understanding that it is copyright material and that no quotation from the thesis may be published without proper acknowledgement. © 2015 The University of Leeds and Chuanjie Sheng The right of Chuanjie Sheng to be identified as Author of this work has been asserted by him in accordance with the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988. III Acknowledgements I appreciate all the persons that helped me to complete this thesis. I would like to express my greatest gratitude to my supervisors, Dr. Elizabeth E. Pender and Professor Malcolm F. Heath. As an enlightened teacher, Dr. Pender has offered me valuable comments and suggestions for my dissertation. Working with her is a stimulating intellectual experience. She patiently suggested on the structure of my thesis and corrected all the chapters line by line. As a wonderful friend, she brings happiness, pleasure and fruitful experience into my life in Leeds. Professor Heath has read all the chapters of my thesis and has given me feedbacks on each of the chapters. During the supervisions, he has given me valuable academic advice and comments, which has saved me from a large number of mistakes and errors in this dissertation. -
Plato's Theaetetus: Formation Over Forms?
Deron Boyles 229 Plato’s Theaetetus: Formation Over Forms? Deron Boyles Georgia State University INTRODUCTION Plato’s Theaetetus offers the opportunity to consider epistemology in ways that importantly explore the meaning of “student” and “teacher.” Specifically, this article argues that the dialogue’s characters—Theodorus, Theaetetus, Protagoras, and Socrates—perform functions that not only reveal competing philosophies of education but templates of and for student engagement as formation. As a text, Theaetetus provides a noteworthy means through which students not only read and think about elenchus (refutation) and aporia (perplexity) but experience it as participants in interlocution. Additionally, the dialogue itself represents formation insofar as it is an instance of Plato’s move away from the Theory of Forms and his further development of midwifery. Proceeding in three parts, this paper 1) provides a brief overview of the dialogue; 2) underscores the representational nature of the characters in the dialogue—and the part they play in student formation; and 3) explores the Socrates-as-midwife motif and the overall marginalization of Forms in the dialogue. In short, this paper argues for understanding the Theaetetus as an aporetic dialogue about formation over Forms.1 BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE DIALOGUE Theaetetus begins with a prologue that takes place just before Socrates’ death, in 399 BCE, and begins with Socrates asking Theodorus if he knows of any young men he thinks have potential. Theodorus recommends Theaetetus and the dialogue proceeds with Socrates asking Theaetetus “What do you think knowledge is?” (146c).2 Initially, Theaetetus only offers examples of knowledge (ousia) rather than providing a definition of knowledge itself eidos( ). -
The Ascent from Nominalism Philosophical Studies Series
THE ASCENT FROM NOMINALISM PHILOSOPHICAL STUDIES SERIES Editors: WILFRID SELLARS, University of Pittsburgh KEITH LEHRER, University of Arizona Board of Consulting Editors: J ON A THAN BENNETT, Syracuse University ALLAN GIBBARD, University of Michigan ROBERT STALNAKER, Cornell University ROBERT G. TURNBULL, Ohio State University VOLUME 37 TERR Y PENNER Department of Philosophy, The University of Wisconsin at Madison, U.S.A. THE ASCENT FROM NOMINALISM Some Existence Arguments in Plato's Middle Dialogues D. REIDEL PUBLISHING COMPANY ~~ A MEMBER OF THE KLUWER . ACADEMIC PUBLISHERS GROUP DORDRECHTj BOSTONj LANCASTERjTOKYO Library of Congress Cataloging in Publication Data Penner, Terry, 1936- The ascent from nominalism. (Philosophical studies series; v. 37) Bibliography: p. Includes indexes. 1. Plato. 2. Aristotle. 3. Metaphysics-History. 4. Nominalism-History. I. Title. II. Series. B395.P347 1987 111'.2'0924 86·31641 ISBN-13: 978-94-010-8186-3 e-ISBN-13: 978-94-009-3791-8 DOl: 10.1007/978-94-009-3791-8 Published by D. Reidel Publishing Company, P.O. Box 17, 3300 AA Dordrecht, Holland. Sold and distributed in the U.S.A. and Canada by Kluwer Academic Publishers, 101 Philip Drive, Assinippi Park, Norwell, MA 02061, U.S.A. In all other countries, sold and distributed by Kluwer Academic Publishers Group, P.O. Box 322, 3300 AH Dordrecht, Holland. All Rights Reserved © 1987 by D. Reidel Publishing Company, Dordrecht, Holland Softcover reprint of the hardcover I 5t edition 1987 No part of the material protected by this copyright notice may be reproduced or utilized in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical induding photocopying, recording or by any information storage and retrieval system, without written permission from the copyright owner ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS Much of this work was conceived and executed between 1971 and 1975, though some of it was done much earlier, and a few bits are quite recent.