Eighth Scries, Vol. HI, No. 17 Tuesday, April, 2,1985 Chaitra 12, 1907 (Saka)
LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)
Second Session (Eighth Lok Sabha)
(Vol. I l l contains Nos. 11 to 20)
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No. 17 : Tuesday, April 2, 1985/Chaitra 12, 1907 (Saka)
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Welcome to the Venezuelan Parliamentary Delegation 1
Oral Answers to Questions : 2—25
* Starred Questions Nos. 284, 287, 289 to 291, 293 and 295
Written Answers to Questions: 26— 227
Starred Questions Nos. 283, 285, 286, 288, 292, 294 and 296 to 302 26—36
Unstarred Questions Nos. 1707 to 1846 36 227
Papers Laid on the Table 227 234
Calling Attention to Matter of Urgent Public Importance 235— 264
Reported famine and drought conditions prevailing in various parts of the country due to failure of rains
Shri V.S. Krishna Iyer 235
Shri Buta Singh ' 241
Shri K. Ramachandra Reddy 245
Dr. V. Venkatesh 253
Shri Dharam Pal Singh Malik 258
Joint Committee on Offices of Profit
Recommendation to Rajya Sabha to appoint Members 264— 267
Business Advisory Committe
Fourth Report 267
Matters under rule 377 267— 275
(i) Need to take effective steps to overcome acute power shortage in U.P.
Shri Zainul Basher 267
*The sign + marked above the name of a Member indicated that the question was actually asked on the floor or the House by that Member. . • . • (ii)
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(ii) Need to give compensation to the farmers for damage to crops due to non-availability of water for irrigation purposes and demand for the release of more water into Canals in Rajasthan ?
Sbri Birbal 268
(iii) Need to provide financial assistance for the completion of Sagar Mai Gopa Link Project of Rajasthan Canal
Shri Virdhi Chander Jain 269
(iv) Need to set up Integral Rail Coach Factory at Kazipet
Shri C. Janga Reddy 270
(v) Failure of the Indian Missions to provide help to the stranded Indians in various cities of Iran and Iraq
Shri Abdul Rashid Kabuli 270
(vi) Need for construction of roads from Alwar to Bhiwandi and Alwar to Delhi and giving financial assistance from National Capital Region Plan Funds
Shri Ram Singh Yadav 271
(vii) Demand for sanction of special grant to Orissa to relieve acute water shortage in drought-affected areas in the State.
Shri Somnath Rath 272
(viii) Demand for setting up a Television Centre in Phulbani district of Orissa
Shri Radhakanta Digal 273
(ix) Need to modernise the fertiliser plant of the Food Corporation of India at Gorakhpur Shri Madan Pandey 273
(X) Need to take steps to check the increasing incidents of air crashes from bird-hits.
Shri Chintamani Panigrahi 274
(xi) Demand for conveying the feelings of the Indian people to Pakistan Government for saving life of Ayaz Samoo sentenced to death by Pak. Government.
Shri Saifuddin Chowdhury (iii)
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Demands for Grants (General), 1985-86 2*75— 384-
Ministry of Home Affairs 275
Shri K. Pradhani 275
Shri Sode Ramaiah 279
Shri Chingwang Konyak 1
Shri Mool Chand Daga ' .286
Shri N. Tombi Singh 290
Shri S. Jaipal Reddy 294
Shri Ram Ratan Ram 301
Shri Brajamohan Mohanty 307
Shri V. Kishore Chandra S. Deo 310
Shri L. Balaraman 314
Shri Frank Anthony "3
Shri D.L. Baitha 322
Shri E. Ayyappu Reddy >226
Shri Ram Prakash 330
Shri Naresh Chandra Chaturvedi 333
Shri Motilal Hansda ’336
Shrimati Sundarwati Nawal Prabfeakar 340
"Shri Ramashray Prasad Sing*! 343
Shri G.L. Dogra '345
Shri C. Janga Reddy 348
Shri Bharat Singh 353
-Shri Balkavi Bairagi '355 Columns Shri Ram Bhagat Pasxtan 357 Dr. Gotam Yazdani 360 Shri Dilip Singh Bhuria 362 Shri S.B. Chavan 364 LOK SABHA DEBATES i 2 LOK SABHA ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS [English] Tuesday April 2S 1985, Chaitra 12, Contract of Maruti Udycg with Suzuki 19G7 (SAKA) *284. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH : SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY AND The Lok Sabha met at Eleven o f the Clock COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair} (a) whether it is a fact that had the con tract with Suzuki and Maruti Udyog been WELCOME TO THE VENEZUELAN based on Japanese Yen, the price of Maruti PARLIAMENTARY DELEGATION car would have been slashed by at least Rs. 5,000 by now ; - [English] (b) if so, the reasons for signing the MR. SPEAKER : Hon’ble Members at contract on the basis of dollar ; the outset, I have to make an announcement. (c) whether any international tenders On my own behalf and on behalf of the were invited in this case ; Hon’ble Members of the House, I have great (d) if so, when ; and pleasure in welcoming His Excellency Dr. Leonardo Ferrer, President of the Chamber (e) if not, the reasons therefor ? of Deputies of Venezuela and Hon’ble Mr. Carlos Canache Mata, M.P. and Madame THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Mata who are on a visit to India as our MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM honoured guests. PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM They arrived fiere yesterday evening. MAD KHAN) : (a) : No, Sir. They are now seated in the Special Box. We wish them a happy and fruitful stay in (b) Does not arise. our country. Through them we convey our (c) No, Sir, Selection of Suzuki as a greetings and best wishes to the Parliament, collaborator was made on the basis of evalua Government and the friendly people of tion of proposals received against enquiries Venezuela, sent to a number of international reputed car manufacturers. This included determin ing suitability of proposed car models for PROF. MADHU DANDA'vATE : Sir, the Indian Market, comparative analysis of orie Indian M.P. is sitting in the box. Has collaboration terms including willingness for he gone abroad ? Has he gone out ? equity participation, export rights and esti mated final price of the car taking into MR. SPEAKER : Is he still there ? account cost of imported components. (Interruptions) I (d) Does not arise. MR. SPEAKER : You have got a very (e) Such foreign collaboration agree sharp eye. Professor ? ments arc normally finalised through negotia tions rather than tenders. 3 Oral Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Oral Answers 4 SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH : Sir, the of exchange prevalent at the end of February, cost part of the reply is totally evasive spe 1985 would have meant a price of Rs. 28,920. cially in the context of the recent price hike On the other hand, the dollar equivalent of the Maruti cars and vans two days before. US $ 2120 at the prevailing rate at the end We want a correct reply, not such an evasive of February, 1985 amounted to Rs. 27,722. reply. From this it would be seen that the amount in rupees for a CKD pack is lower by about While announcing the price rise the Rs. 1,200 because of the contract having Chairman of the Company, Mr. Krishna- been expressed in dollars. That is why, the murthy, told that the escalation of the Dollar company has been able to save nearly Rs. has boosted up the input costs. It means 1,200 per CKD pack. the future is very grim for the buyers be SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH : Sir. as I cause the Dollar will continue to rise against have mentioned earlier, dollar will continue the Yen in the foreseeable future and the to rise and it would in turn increase the Company will pass on the losses to the buyer. price of car. In that context, what about our So, in this context I want to know—rather 1 indigenisation ? How far are we successful in insist on the reply to my question—whether producing indigenised components so that the Government could sign the Yen contract, we will be able to avoid import and give whether there is any procedure followed for much relief to the buyers in our country ? the Yen contract with Japan when you im port other articles from Japan. If you follow SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : So far the Yen contract system with Japan in the as indigenisation programme is concerned, case of other imports, why did not you in that was also finalised at the time of finalising sist on this system in this case ? Who advis the project report. In 1984-85, as against ed us to sign a Dollar contract which is the revised target of 23% for indigenisation, very costly for our buyers ? the company has been able to achieve 21%, For 1985*86, the revised target is 35% and If it is wrong, would the Government the company hopes to achieve this target. accept it and is there any possibility of re The company is in contact with the compo negotiating with the party so that we can nent manufacturers and it hopes that in reach an agreement on Yen-contract basis ? course of time, the component manufacturers would be in a position to produce and supply whatever the components required by THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS AND the company. FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI VEEREN- SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : Sir, the DRA PATIL) : Sir it is true that dollar has Government has recently increased the price appreciated. But if you compare the appre of steel by 15% and also the price of petro ciation of dollar with yen, I must say that leum and petroleum products. Will this the appreciation of Yen is more than the price-rise not add to the cost of production appreciation of dollar. I can give the figures. and ultimately the pricc of Maruti cars ? Or, will the new price of car which was announ When the contract was entered in Sep ced day before yesterday remain unchanged tember, 1982 (Interruptions.) one rupee was despite the price-rise in steel etc. ? equivalent to 27.86 Yen and the US $100 was equivalent to R.s. 969.50. Now, at the Regarding indigenisation of Maruti com end of February, 1985, one rupee is equiva ponents at the end of first year, it was 24%. lent to 19.80 yen which was 27.86 when the During 1985-86. it is to be raised, as stated contract was entered into. Now, the US by the Hon. Minister, to 45 per cent and, by $100 is Rs. 1,307.62. That is why, I have 1988-89, to 95 per cent. But a doubt has been said that yen has appreciated more. At the expressed by no less a person than Mr. time of entering into a contract, the company Shinohara, a Director of the Maruti Udyog considered and took a considered view on Ltd. that infra-structure for ancillary pro the question whether the contract should be duction in India is extremely weak and the finalised in dollar or in yen and because the ancillary vendors have also expressed their contract is in dollar, the company has been inability to supply components of good able to save a lot in this. 1 can say that the quality. In view of that, how can the pro contract price of yen 5.726 lakhs at the rate gramme of indigenisation be achieved ? 5 Oral Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Oral Answers 6 SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : The Hon. (a) the number of public and private Member wanted to know the factors that sector units which are producing fertilizers were responsible for increasing the prices of in the country ; and cars and vans. Mainly two factors are res (b) the total quantity of fertilizers pro ponsible. One is an increase in the price of duced in these units during the year 1984 ? steel and another is an appreciation of the dollar. The Hon. Member also wanted to THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS krrow how long the price which has been AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY iincreased recently is going to be valid. I AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI VEE have consulted the officers in-charge of the RENDRA PATIL) : (a) and (b). A Statement company. They hope that the prices that is laid on the Table of the House. have been increased recently may be valid Statement For a period of one year. But if there is again an appreciation of the dollar and if (a) There are at present 38 major ferti there is an increase in the prices of inpule lizer units producing Nitrogenous and Phos- and all that, then the company may have to phatic fertilizers of different grades. Of these, think of further increase. They hope that 24 units are in the public sector, 11 in the this price will be valid for one year. private sector and 3 in the cooperative sector. Besides, there are over 40 smaller units pro About the components, the Company is ducing Single Super Phosphate. very anxious to see that whatever indigeni- (b) During the financial year 1984-85 sation programme is there, it is adhered to. (April, 1984 March, 1985), the final estimate They are in constant dialogue with the com of total production of fertilizers, based on ponent manufacturers. They have . had actual production for 11 months and esti already one meeting and they are going to mated production for one month, is 39.32 have another meeting tomorrow at Madras. lakh tonnes of Nitrogen (Approx.) and 12.62 They are trying their best by giving technical lakh tonnes of P20 5, (Approx.). The sector- assistance and all other assistance possible to wise production would be as follows :— see that whatever components are required, they are manufactured and the indgenisation (Production in lakh tonnes) programme is adhered to. Nitrogen Public Sector 18.52 3.47 Private Sector 15.58 5.65 [Translation] Cooperative Sector 5.22 3.50 SHRI JAGDISH AWASTHI : Is the Hon. Minister aware that the premium on Total 39.32 12.62 Maruti car is more than its price ? If so. what steps are being taken to check that ? [Translation] SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : It is very SHRI AMAR SINGH RATHAWA : In view of the fact that the quantity of fertilisers difficult to say that Maruti Car is being sold being manufactured in the country is insuffi in black because there is no distribution cient to meet the demaad in the country, control and price control. Finance Ministry does the Hon. Minister propose to open is trying to find out how Maruti Car is being new fertiliser factories and have the Gujarat sold or purchased with black money. I under Government sent any application for that stand, and have information also that the Finance Ministry is taking some action in purpose ? this regard. SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : Our de mand for fertiliser is more than the quantity produced. I have certain figures with me—the [English] consumption for 1984-85 has been estimated to Production of Fertilizers be 56.60 lakh tonnes against a production of 39.32 lakh tonnes. Thus, there is shortfall of *287. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA : 17.28 lakh tonnes. The short-fall is being Wilt the Minister of CHEMICALS AND met through import of fertilizer which are FERTILIZERS be pleased to state : distributed amongst the farmers. 7 Oral Answ ers APRIL 2, 1985 Oral Answers 8 SHRJ AMAR SINGH RATHAWA : In SHRI BALK AVI BAIRAGI : Mr. our country, there arc many backward and Speaker, Sir, the Hon. Minister has stated Adivasi areas. There aiso, people have that shortfall in the production of fertilizer started using fertilizers but these are not is met by imports. Will the Hon. Minister available there. Has the Hon. Minister be pleased to state the name of the countries received any application for the setting up from whom the fertilisers are imported and of a new fertiliser factory in a backward the terms of agreement with those countries ? Adivasi area to meet their demands ? SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : I do not SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : Action is have these details with me because our being taken under the programme for the Ministry is concerned with production where setting up of new plants included in the as import and its distribution is the responsi Sixth Five Year Plan. 4 plants are going to bility of another Ministry. If the Hon. start production in the near future—two are Member so wishes I will collect the informa in Thai and t*vo in Hazira, and these are tion from the other Ministry and send it to gas-based units. Work will be started on 6 him. more gas-based fertiliser plants and neces sary action is being taken in that regard. [English] But it is not possible to concede the Hon. Member’s demand that the plant should be SHRI AJOY BISWAS : The Hon. set up where there is demand because we Minister has already said something about have to instal the plant where the gas pipe fertilisers. I would like to know from the line is available. Even if it is Naptha or Hon Minister how many fertiliser factories fuel based plant, unless infrastructure and will be opened during the Seventh Five Year other facilities are available, the plant cannot Plan. In Tripura, we have enough gas. 1 be set up because a huge investment is would like to know whether a fertiliser required for these plants. The new plants factory will be opened in Tripura during the which are coming up will need a capital in Seventh Five Year Plan. vestment of Rs. 600 to Rs. 650 crores. There fore, it is not possible to fulfil the demand SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : The that a plant should be opened wherever there Seventh Five Year Plan is yet to be finalised. is demand. I can only give this information after the Seventh Five Year Plan is finalised. SHR1MATI KRISHNA SAHI : The Hon. Minister will be aware that there are MR. SPEAKER : It is a Seventh Plan fertiliser plants in Begusarai and Barauni but question. their production capacity is going down every year. I would like to know from the [Translation] Hon. Minister what steps are being taken by the Government to check this fall every year SHRI G1RDHARI LAL VYAS : One in production of fertilizers in Begusarai and gas based fertilizer plant in Sawai Madhopur Barauni plants ? The Hon. Minister has in Rajasthan has been entrusted to Shri stated that setting up of new plants requires Birla but so far not much work has been huge investment. But what is being done done on that project. As the Hon. Minister to increase the production capacity of the has stated he wants to ensure early pro old plants which have been running for duction of fertiliser, I would like to know years and whose production capacity is what steps are being taken in regard to gas going down ? based fertiliser plants entrusted to private sector so that production starts early and SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : The old fertiliser is made available ? plants were started with old technology. Unless we modernise them, there can neither SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : All the be surplus nor profit. Therefore, we propose parties which have been allotted gas based to modernise those old plants which have a fertiliser plants have been clearly told of scope of modernisation. But if the Hon. the zero date. They have been apprised of Member puts a separate question about the whole programme. If any party does Barauni, i shall be able to give a detailed not adhere to that schedule and does not reply to that. start work, we will give notice to it and the 9 Oral Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Oral Answers 10 plant will be allotted to some other party. SHRI SHIVENDRA BAHADUR There are parties who want to set up gas SINGH : It seems that, for the last couple based fertiliser plants on behalf of their of years, the ONGC has been going in for a companies. There is no dearth of such people. lot a global tenders for the purchase of rigs, If the party to whom the plant has been sophisticated anchor-cum-supply vessels, etc., allotted does not take action, then we will etc., and it seems that all the orders are think whether the allotment should remain going to this one particular country. May 1 with that party or it should be awarded to know from the Hon. Minister whether he some other party. has the details of other global tenders, whe ther global tenders were floated at all and if MR. SPEAKER : Have you any inten so, which are the other parties which had tion of converting that party to zero or not ? given their tenders for these anchor-cum- supply vessels ? PROF. MADAU DANDAVATE : Do not allot it to the Congress Party. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA : It is a fact that the ONGC float global SH RIM ATI VIDYAVATI CHATUR- tenders for its requirement wherever it is VEDl : The Hon. Minister has said that necessary. So far as these vessels are concer installation of the plant is possible at a place ned, the ONGC floated a global tender, and where the pipeline passes. The pipeline going 44 parties, in response to the global tender, from Guna passes via Tikamgarh. Tikamgarh offered tenders. Out of these, 37 parties were district is industrially a very backward short-listed, and out of these 37 parties, district and keeping in view the shortage of only 24 parties, submitted revised bids fertilisers, will the Hon. Minister set up a in response to ONGC’s request by the fertiliser plant there so that the people there closing date, i.e., 23-5-1983. Out of these 24 get jobs and the fertilizer requirement of parties, later on, twelve parties were found the country could also be met. eligible' So far as the names are concerned, I would give the names of the parties. The MR. SPEAKER : Only because the names of these twelve parties are : Promet, pipeline passes through that place. Singapore; Samsung; Korea; Modec, Japan; Daewoo, Korea; Gul Engineering, Singapore; SMT. VIDYAVATI CHATURVEDI : Asia Pacific, Singapore... He has said that the plant can be set up at a place where the pipeline passes. MR. SPEAKER : You may lay it on the Table. [English] SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA : Purchase of anchor-cum-supply Vessels He wanted the names, Sir. That is why, I am by O.N.G.C. reading. *289. SHRI SHIVENDRA BAHADUR SHRI SHIVENDRA BAHADUR SINGH : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM SINGH : This information may be laid on be pleased to state : the Table of the House. My second supple mentary is this. There are many other com (a) whether Oil and Natural Gas Com panies which have been doing this in other mission propose to purchase eight sophisti countries. How is it that, for the ONGC, cated anchor-cum-supply vessels from a South only the Koreans come out as the best, Korean concern; and technical-wise and financial-ability-wise ? If you go into the details , 1 am sure you will (b) if bo, t|-ie number and cost thereof? find that there are also other companies doing a better job. May I know from the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Hon Minister whether he is going to consider MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SUR1 on merits other global tenders also and will NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a) & (b). he go into the details and look into it or he Yes, Sir, ONGC has placed an order on M/s. wiLl leave it to the'O NG C only 7 Samsung Korea for the fabrication of 8 offshore supply vessels each costing US SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA : $ 4.979 million. When global tenders are floated, then every U Oral Answers APRIL 2.1985 Oral Answers 12 company has a right to submit their tenders. ted with fibre optics for transmission or any The reason for selection of this Korean party other purpose; was that their tender was the lowest and as it was the lowest, we had no option but to (b) if so, the results thereof; and select them. (c) whether Government have adopted PROF MADHU DANDAVATE: Lowest any time-frame within which fibre optics will in quality ? be introduced for commercial use ? SHRI SH1VENDRA BAHADUR THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE SINGH : What about technically—Quality- MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS wise ? (SHRI RAM N1WAS MIRDHA) : (a) Yes, Sir. Some trials have been carried out for SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA : telecommunications transmission. It is acceptable from the point of view of quality and also the lowest from the point of (b) The results have shown that this view of price. Whenever a tender is floated, technology has applications in the tele-com then the technical aspects of it are gone into munication net-work in India for digital and when it is approved that it is technically transmission. all right, then only you go for such and such party. (c) The 7th Five Year Plan proposals provide for introduction of fibre optic cables SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS MUNSI : in some of the routes in the telecommunica Will the Hon. Minister tell us whether it is a tion network for commercial use. fact that ONGC every year requires apart from this a lot of other equipment like SHRI G. G. SWELL : I am afraid the pumps, drilling machines, etc. for their Minister is, I would say, trying to slur over operations and whether it is also a fact that the question and has not made clear where the ONGC in 1982 made an appeal to the these trials have been made—he could have Indian industry to make these equipments mentioned that— and with what results, whe indigenously so that we can reduce our im ther these fibre optics are being produced to ports and become self-reliant ? If so, if such day within the country or whether you are equipments are available in the country, will importing some of them. I am saying this the Hon. Minister assure the House that because fibre optics are one of a new order instead of importing them, they will go in of the 21st century and the Prime Minister for the indigenous Indian equipments for has said that we should prepare ourselves for ONGC operations ? the 21st century from to-day. I am sure the Minister knows what are the capacities of a SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA : fibre optic. They are hair-thin glass fibres We are interested in indigenisation and our which can be taken around comers. They are attempt is towards that direction. We are so powerful that they can transmit laser trying to get as much of equipment as is beams through fibre optics. In comparison required and which is available in the to the copper wires which carry only 24 mes country. Therefore, there is no question of sages, the hair-thin fibre optics can carry assurance, rather it is the policy of ONGC. 1000 messages, together with a picture of the If my friend has any question about it or any people who are using the te!e*communication doubt about anything, he can certainly write from one side to the other. This is the kind to me. of thing. I would like to know where these trials have been made, whether we have ta Introduction of Fibre Optics for ken steps to manufacture the fibre optics Commercial use within the country and what preparations you are making. *290. SHRI G. G. SWELL ; Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be plea SRI RAM N1WAS MIRDHA : I agree sed to state : with the Hon. Member that fibre optics is a very modern method of transmission of (a) whether Government have experimen messages. 13 Oral Answer! CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Oral Answers U It has tremendous advantages for use in depends on the resources which are made telecommunications. Opital fibre cable is a available to us in the Seventh Plan. The modren technology for transmission of a Hon. Member wanted to know the money large volume of telecommunication signals in we are incurring. Just to give an example the digital format making use of a hair thin for this 120 km. proposed trial from Ahem glass like transmission media in contrast to dabad to Baroda we have made a provision metallic conductors normally in use. It has of Rs, 2 crores to start with. lot of other advantages. For example, it is difficult to steal it. In so many places we Rise in prices of Automobile Tyres find the brass wire is stolen. Water cannot 4* affect it. It has lot of other uses also. We *291. SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN are conducting experiments in Poona from SINHA : 1979 on a certain stretch as to how it can be SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: used and what are the difficulties in a parti Will the Minister of INDUSTRY AND cular situation. Our Telecommunication COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : Research Centre is conducting these trials and we are awaiting the results. In addition (a) whether tyre manufacturers have to this there are various other places also raised the prices of automobile tyres from where we want to have trials of this nature 5.5 to 9.6 per cent recently as reported in so that we can assess how we can use it in ‘Financial Express’ of the 7th March, 1985 ; our set-up. This is for short distances. As regards long distances from Ahemdabad to (b) whether there is any price control on Baroda we are planning to lay 120 k.m. fibre tyres; opital cable to see how it can work for both long distances and short distances. We are (c) whether Government consider this also contemplating its manufacture in the price increase as justified ; and country. It has been decided that Hindustan Cables Ltd. should be allowed to proceed (d) if not, the remedial steps proposed with formulating a scheme for manufacturing to be taken by Government ? it indigenously and we hope it will come into production very soon We hope in the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Seventh Plan the manufacturing facilities will MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM be set-up in the country for the latest tech PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM nology. In that way we are not only consci MAD KHAN) (a) to (d). A Statement is ous of the tremendous potential of the sys laid on the Table of the House. tem but also we have taken steps to experi ment with it in various circumstances and Statement situations as well as manufacture it indi genously. (a) Prices of tyres vary from unit to unit depending on the quality and market SHRI G. G. SWELL : I am happy with reputation of tyres manufactured by each the answer of the Hon. Minister that they unit. While the prices of tyres have been are taking steps to manufacture these things increased by the industry during February within the country and that they are thinking and March 1985, it is not possible to indi of making the provision in the Seventh Plan. cate the percentage by which the industry, I would like to know whether he has a figure comprising 14 units, each manufacturing a for allocation for this research and develop wide variety of tyres, has increased the ment of this new technology and whether he prices. However, according to Automotive envisages a time-frame when the present out Tyre Manufacturers Association (ATMA), moded copper wires which are causing such overall price increase resorted to by the tyre a lot of problems in the country could be industry in February/March 1985 did not replaced by the fibre optic cable ? exceed 4%. SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA : In the (b) to (d). There is no statutory control Seventh Plan we have projected a time on the prices of tyres at present. In the frame. In the long distance network it is absence of control on the prices of raw proposed to cover 11,000 k.m. but it all materials and conversion costs and in the 15 Oral Answers APRTL2, 1985 Oral Answers 16 prevailing competitive market condition, fair facturers. It is a highly competitive market. prices are better determined by market forces There is no point in having price control and of demand and supply rather than by ad distribution control. This sort of control will ministrative intervention. However, the again help the manufacturers. If price is Bureau of Industrial Costs and Prices (BICP) reduced then they will create artificial have already been asked to review the cost shortage and they will try to sell it in black structure of tyres and their findings would market and make money. If price is more as provide a basis for assessment of the price fixed on advice of BICP they will make lot revisions resorted to by the manufacturers of money. On BlCP’s advice we thought on the ground of escalation of input costs. that we should leave it to the market forces. At the same time, Government constantly If demand is more and manufacturers make reviews measures required to stabilize the undue profits we will take necessary action. prices of raw materials and other Inputs as Wc will find out what is to be done after well as the incidcnce of indirect taxes so as BICP study is over. In order to meet the to enable the tyre industry to maintain the situation Government will be prepared to prices of tyres. import tyres for supply to actual users. I personally feel that by importing tyres we SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN can save the situation not by price control SINHA : Sir, in reply to part fa) of the or distribution control which will help the question it is said that it is not possible for manufacturers both directly and indirectly. the Government to indicate the percentage by which the industry, comprising 14 units, each manufacturing a wide variety of tyres, SHRF SATYENDRA NARAYAN has increased the prices. They are dependant SINHA : BICP gives the price structure of on the information given by the Automative tyres. They have been asked to review the Tyre Manufacturers Association. Sir, we price structure. The question is whether the have put a definite question that the prices price increase resorted to by the manufactu of autamobile tyres have been raised from rers is justified or not, on the ground of es 5.5 to 9.6 percent. That was reported to calation of prices of inputs. I want to know the Press by the Tyres Association. I am as to when you asked BTCP to go into this really surprised with the way this question question. When do you expect them to sub has been answered by the Government. mit their report ? Secondly, he said that no price control is imposed. The tyre users are just at the SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : In the mercy of market forces of demand and past also the question about the price fixed supply. His answer is rather disheartening. by the manufacturers was referred to BICP With regard to questions (c) and (d) it has and they made a report and recently in 1984 been stated that they have asked the BICP this question was again referred to BICP. to review cost structure of tyres and their But I feel that they have not made any findings would provide the basis for the report and we are asking BTCP to make a assessment of prices. May I know when were cost study only to find out whether the they asked to go into the price structure of manufacturers are making undue profit or the tyres and when their findings are expec not, what is the margin of profit and so on. ted ? Tf they are making profit, as I said just now, we will see that they do not make undue THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS profit. If necessary, we will import the tyres AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY and make them available to the actual users. AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI So far as the BICP's study is concerned, my VEERENDRA PATIL) : So far as tyre pro information is that they have not so far duction is concerned, sufficient capacity has made a report to the Government. been created. Sufficient tyres are being manu factured. The Hon. Member is aware of the SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN fact that there is no price and distribution SINHA : In reply to my question, the Hon. control over tyres because production is Minister has said that the Government is increasing every year. In 1981 it was 83.21 thinking of taking some measures in this lakhs ; in 1984 it is 106.5 lakhs. We have respcct. I would like to know from the been told by BICP that tyres market is a Minister what those measures are which he buyers’ market. There are several tyre manu is having in mind and what measures have 17 Oral Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Oral Answers 18 been taken by him to control and stabilise just now, recently the Senior Officer of our the prices. Ministry had invited all of them and he had a detailed discussion with them. He wanted SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : That is to know why it was increased and what was what 1 have said that after the recent increase the reason for the increase. They had given in the prices, our officers called the manu the details how the prices of inputs had facturers and they had a detailed discussion gone up, to what extent they had gone up, with them to find out whether they are justi that is, carbon, nylon, rubber, etc. Now, if fied in increasing the price. They had their all of them join together and if they conspire own version as to how they had to increase and increase the price, what steps should we the prices, how the prices of the raw take ? That is why I said whenever they materials had gone up, to what extent they increase the price, we ask the BICP to find had gone up, etc. Then we had asked the out whether the increase is justified and if BICP to make a study. When we get a report they say, that the increase is not justified, from the BICP we will be in a position to then in order to meet that situation, we take know whether the rise in price is justified steps to import the item and supply it to the and if it is not justified, we will meet the users. demand by importing tyre, if necessary. SHRI LALITESHWAR SHAHI : I would [Translation] like to know from the Hon. Minister what the installed capacity of tyre manufacturing SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH : units is and to what extent it is being utilised Mr. Speaker, Sir, it has just been stated by in production. No doubt the increase is from the Hon. Minister that sufficient number of 83 lakhs to 106 lakhs, as has been stated by tyres are being manufactured. When a com the Minister. But what is the relationship modity is produced in sufficient quantity, its between these figures and the installed capa price should not increase. I want to know city ? I want to know whether it is being whether Government would take steps to utilised because sometimes it happens that the check the rise in price of this commodity.’ manufacturers combine together to produce it upto a particular limit and create an artifi SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : I have cial scarcity. By the time the BICP analyses just now stated that we are against controls. the situation, six months might have passed. In case we put some curbs, only the manu- But the users are put to difficulties. So, there sacturers would be benefited. The users will would be time-lag between the BICP getting not be benefited. In the present situation if into the enquiry and submitted its report. they try to earn high profit, we shall take the Apart from this, 1 would like to know the steps enumerated by me earlier in the House. installed capacity of the units and to what extent the installed capacity is being utilised [English] for the production of tyres. SHRI H.M. PATEL : The Hon, Minister SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : I am says that when the supply exceeds demand sorry I do not have the figures for the ins there is no need for price control. The talled capacity. But 1 have the figures for price would rise only if there is a combina the production and how it is increasing. I tion among the manufacturers to raise the want to make it clear that so far as tyre price. If that is so and that is the only cir industry is concerned, there is sufficient scope cumstance in which an intervention would and we are here to encourage sf more com be necessary, is there any evidence to that panies are prepared to come forward and effect ? enter this field. We have already received some applications. We try to encouragc and SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : If they we want to see that more and more units come together and if they have an under come up in this field and more and more standing with regard to the prices and they tyres are produced. Today, not oniy the increase the price, what we do is that we ask manufacturers are meeting the demand of them to come and exp'ain as to why they the country, but they are in a position to have increased and whether there is any export also and they are earning foreign justification for the increase. As I have said exchange. 19 Oral Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Oral Answers 20 Just now I have got the information SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : If we want about the installed capacity. It is 15.2 million BICP to examine before they increase the tyres and the actual production is 10.5 price, that means, they have to approach million tyres. The capacity utilization is the Government to obtain approval of the eighty per cent. Government before they effect the increase m the price. That can be possible only if there is control over the price and distribution. If SHRI INll)RAJIT GUPTA : These there is no control over price and distribu figures do not mean very much; they have tion how can we ask them ? to be analysed, whether they are the ordinary automobile tyres, truck tyres or cycle tyres Let me also add that if these manufac etc. There must be some break-up. turers indulge in unfair practices, under the MRTP Act, we can take action against these These tyre manufacturers have got an manufacturers. That is why in order to find association, the tyre manufacturers* associa out whether they are indulging in unfair tion; it is not that all the tyre manufacturers practices, we are asking BICP to make a are separate entities and cutting each other's study and report to us. throat; they are not that nice people. From what the Minister has explained at great length, it eppears that they are at liberty to (Translation) raise their prices whenever they like. Sub Complaints received by Election sequently, the B1CP examines their calcula Commission on recent elections tions and figures. Already, the price has gone up. *293. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY : + MR. SPEAKER : Is it not before that ? DR. A. K. PATEL : Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : If the B1CP be pleased to state : finds that their escalation of price is not (a) The nature of the complaints received justified, then subsequently the Government by the Election Commission from various has to jrsort to extreme methods like impor States and Union Territories regarding elec ting ty«*froni abroad. Was it not the prac tions to Lak Sabha and State Legislative tice that the BICP had to give approval Assemblies; beforehand ? The manufacturers had to come to the BICP and say “ that for the following (b) The action taken or proposed to be reasons, this is the price increase, which we taken on the said complaints; and consider is necessary” And BICP had to approve it, and without that approval they (cj Whether violation of code of con could not unilaterally increase that price. duct is proposed to be made punishable What is the position ? under the law ? SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : The pro (Eglish) cedure that the Hon. Member is suggesting THE MINISTER OF LAW AND can be followed only if there is a control JUSTICE (SHRI A. K. SEN .): (a) and (b). over the price and distribution. I made it The responsibility for the conduct of all elec clear that so far as tyres are concerned, there tions to Parliament and to State Legislatures is no price control, there is no distribution vests in the Election Commission. Complaints control. We are referring this matter to received during the course of any election BICP only to find out whether they are have also to be dealt with by the Commis making any undue profit. sion in terms of the relevant provisions of election law and procedure. The Commission MR. SPEAKER : I think, this is a has informed that information regarding the logical conclusion that when we can ask complaints and action taken thereon is being them afterwards, why can’t we ask them be compiled. On receipt of the information from fore ? That is something logical and I think, the Commission, the same will be laid on the you can take care on it. Table of the House. 21 Oral Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Oral Answers 22 (c) The Election Commission had earlier as a matter of courtesy. Now Sir, let me recommended that violation of the Code reply to Question (c). The Election Commis should be made as electoral offences. This sion had earlier recommended that violation recommendation of the Commission has been of the Code should be made as electoral under consideration of the Government. offences. This recommendation of the Com Meanwhile, the Commission has recently mission has been under consideration of the informed that it is taking stock of the expe Government. Meanwhile, the Commission has rience gained by it during the recent General recntly informed that it is taking stock of the Election to the Lok Sabha and elections to experience gained by it during the recent State Assemblies with a view to determining General Election to the Lok Sabha and whether any of the earlier package of propo elections to State Assemblies with a view to sals for electoral reforms requires revision of determining whether any of the earlier pac alteration and that it will forward its views kage of proposals for electoral reforms to the Government shortly. The question of requires revision of alteration and that it making any statutory provision for the pur will foward its views to the Government pose of complying with the Model Code of shortly. The question of making any statu Conduct can be considered only after the tory provision for the purpose of complying views of the Commission have been received, with the Model Code of Conduct can be examined and final decision taken on this considered only after the views of the Com proposal after consultation with all conc mission have been received, examined and erned. final decision taken on this proposal after consultation with all concerned. DR. A. K. PATEL : Mr Speaker, Sir, the Hon. Minister has replied to questions May I now answer the supplementary ? fa) and (b). I give the example of my State, About a particular place, where the Hon. Gujarat, especially Mehsana District, where member said that some disturbance or some my candidates could not enter the villages interference took place, as soon as the for propaganda and they could not place Commission forwards the information and any agents in some polling stations. Some its recommendations to us, we shall certainly candidates have given applications in antici place them before the House. We cannot pation to give protection at some places. But give any information now because no info nothing was done. Here is a copy of one rmation has reached us yet. application which I am submitting. That is why, 1 wont to know why no actions were DR. A. K. PATEL : In my constituency, taken by the Election Commmission Office of one application was received on 25th the State in this election. February and it was submitted personally by the candidate to the Election Officer. But SHRI A. K. SEN : I was just going to no action was taken at the time of elections, answer Question (c), but before that the Hon. during the counting, bundles of ballot were member got up. The Hon. member stood up, counterfoils were detected from the ballot so I sat down. I believe that both the boxes. This has happened in Mehsana Dis members should not stand up, and so I sat trict in Vijaypur Constituency. 1 want to down. Now, may I complete my answer and know why no action was taken ? then reply the supplementary also ? SHRI A. K. SEN : If the Hon. member lyiR. SPEAKER : Now Sir, you do not puts a specific question about a particular sit down before you complete. place, I shall certainly answer it. But as I already said, if there has been any lapse on SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : There the part of any officer in chargc of the should be a rule about it, as to whether he conduct of the elections and if % complaint can sit down before he finishes replying. has been made to the Election Commission, then I think that the query should be made SHRI A. K. SEN : There should be a first with the Election Commission before it rule whether some one can stand up before is addressed to us. the Minister completes giving his reply. I believe in sitting down if some-one else PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : I stands up. I sometimes yield my place also would like to know from the Hon. Minister 23 Oral Answers APRIL 2,1985 Oral Answers 24 whether with his wide knowledge of law, he PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : I has come across a single illustration in any have got another experience. When a voter part of the world where in a single consti was asked to put the stamp on the ‘Hand’, tuency the Returning Officer has actually that lady voter in my constituency went in, issued certificates to two members that they put a blank paper into the ballot box, came are already declared elected. Is he aware of out and told the Congress agent. I have put the fact that such an extraordinary situation the stamp on my hand. So, I have voted for has arisen under their regime in Bihar in the Congress. That also happens. Islampur Constituency*? There, one member was given a certificate by the Returning SHRI A. K. SEN : I have already yiel Officer that he was already declared elected. ded to the experience of Prof. Dandavate. That man disappeared from the scene of course only from that scene. Afterwards AN. HON. MEMBER : There is a another is called (Obviously he is a Congress separate chapter in the Indian Penal Code candidate) and given another certificate that relating to election offences. But. unfortuna he was declared elected. Now Sir, I would tely, under the Criminal Procedure Code, like to know from the point of view of law the sanction of the State Government is what would be the position of the two mem necessary to file any complaint or charge- bers elected from that Constituency. Will sheet, relating to the electoral offences. there be coexistence of two Assembly mem Will the Minister consider amending the Criminal Procedure Code, so that an ordinary bers in the Assembly of Bihar whether they are going to resolve it ? I would like to know person is able to file straightway complaints relating to election offences against the legal opinion. offenders ? SHRI A. K. SEN : I think that in the SHRI A. K. SEN : In the Criminal course of some other question, this Procedure Code, thare are certain offences question was put to me earlier, and I had mentioned, but the electoral law has created requested the Hon. Member who had asked certain electoral offences. If there is any me that question, to put a specific question infraction of those offences, then it is open on that particular point, because it is a to the Hon. Member or anybody else to take matter which certainly appears to be sui it to the court of law. ( Interruption) May 1 generis this particular incident. request you to sit down because I have got up ? Your colleague said that I should not sit down. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Mine is specific. There are certain electoral offences creat i ed by the Election law. If there is any SHRI A. K. SEN : That is what 1 say. infraction of those offences, then they not When that question is put, I shall gather the only expose the offender to the rigours of information. It seems rather strange if simul the law but they also may expose him to taneously two candidates are declared elect disqualification. But if there are more offen ed. 1 would like notice on that. ces to be created, that will depend upon the recommendations of the Election Commis PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Mr. sion, and then our consensus, because these Sen, very strange things are happening in matters are always decided by all the parties your regime. Please take note of them. together. That has been our position. MR. SPEAKER : Now Mr. Das Munsi. SHRI A. K. SEN : There are more He is not present. Now Mr. Vijayaraghavan, things in heaven or earth than are thought Question 295. of by us. financing of Elections MR. SPEAKER : For your knowledge, + I can say that there was a voter, who tore *295. SHRI V.S, VIJAYARAGHAVAN: her ballot paper into five pieces, and put PROF. P. J. KURIEN : one piece in each box. She did not want io Will the Minister of LAW AND displease any of the candidates. JUSTICE be pieased to state : 25 Oral Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 26 (a) whether the Election Commission WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS has submitted any proposal with regard to financing of elections to Parliament and State [English] Assemblies by the State; Opening of new Post Offices during Sixth (b) if so, the details thereof; Five Year Plan *283. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA- (c) whether Government have given any SHAR : Will the Minister of COMMUNI thought to this proposition independent of CATIONS be pleased to state : the Commission's proposal; (a) whether the Post and Telegraph Bo (d) if so, the decision taken by Govern ard had fixed any targets for opening new ment thereon; and post offices in the country during the sixth Five Year Plan, year-wise; (e) the details thereof ? (b) whether any shortfall has been re gistered in achieving the targets; if so, the THE MINISTER OF LAW AND reasons therefor; JUSTICE (SHRI A. K. SEN) : (a) and (b). No, Sir. The Election Commission has not (c) whether there are still any cases of made a proposal of this nature. Even earlier, opening such Branch Offices pending for the Commission had only recommended opening before the expiry of the Plan; and some proposals for subsidy to candidates and subvention to political parties from (d) the likely date by which these would public exchequer. be opened ? (c) to (e). Yes, Sir. Apart from other THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE implications, it would be difficult for Govern MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS ment to bear such expenditure on the total (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) financing of elections to Parliament and Yes, Sir. State Assemblies. (b/ Shortfall in the achievements is only during the years 1983-84 and 1984-85 and it SHRI V. S. VIJAYARAGHAVAN : The is on account of economy OFders in force Minister has said that the Election Commi banning creation of new posts. ssion had made a suggestion about the sub sidy. I want to know what is the decision of (c) & (d). Sixth Plan will be over on the Government in this matter. 31-3-1985 and the economy orders are also valid upto 31-3-1985; as such the question SHRI A. K. SEN : The decision is as of opening of pending post offices before given in the answer to question (c), (d) and the expiry of the Plan does not arise. (e). It is not possible. Deterioration in Telephone Services in MR. SPEAKER : Any supplementary, North Bengal Districts Mr. Vijayaraghavan ? One more you can, ask, if you want. *285. SHRI ANANDA PATHAK : Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: SHRI V. S. VIJAYARAGHAVAN : No. (a) whether Government are aware that MR. SPEAKER : Then the question telephone services in all the North Bengal Hour is over. districts are deteriorating day by day; MR. SPEAKER : Now papers Laid. (b) if so, the details thereof; and Shri P, V, Narasimha Rao. (c) the steps so far taken or proposed to be taken to improve the telephone services in the said region ? 27 Written Answers APRIL [, 1985 Written Answers 28 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE . Review of Licensing Policy for MINISTERY OF COMMUNICATIONS hazardous Chemical Industries ( SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA ) : (a) No, Sir; the services are generally satisfac *286. SHRI B. V. DESA1 : Will the tory. Minister of CHEMICAL AND FERTI LfZERS be pleased to state ; (b) & (c). Sometimes the services are (a) whether Government are considering affected due to theft or fault oo overhead major changes in the licensing policy regar wires, theft or damage to underground cables ding hazardous chemical industries; and prolonged electric power supply failures. (b) whether the expert committee com The steps taken to improve the teleph prising of top scientists has suggested that one services further in the North Bengal area the basic question of importing these chemi are listed in the attached statement. cals rather than manufacturing them, should be studied; Statement (c) if so, whether the expert committee Steps taken to improve the telephone has already submitted its report to Govern services in the North Bengal Area ment; and The following steps ar? taken to improve (d) if so, the main suggestions made by the telephone service further in the North the committee and changes likely to be made Bengal Area : in this regard ? (i) Cooperation of the local rpolice au THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS thorities is taken to minimise thefts AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY of wires and cables. AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL) : (a) Government (ii) Regular contacts with local electri have already identified 20 industries causing city authorities are maintained to high pollution and have, in respect of avoid frequent and prolonged load these industries, prescribed special condi shedding prevalent in that area. tions for approval of the site from the environmental angle by the competent au (iii) Engine Alternators and higher capa thorities and the installation of appropriate city batteries are being provided equipments for the prevention and control wherever feasible. of pollution. Government are also seized of (iv) Installation work of 100 lines expan the necessity to review various aspects rela sion from 600 lines to 700 lines ting to hazardous chemicals and have capacity) of Coochbehar telephone already initiated action in this regard. exchange is in progress and expected to be completed shortly. (b) No such Expert Committee has been constituted in this regard. (v) Installation work of 1000 lines ex pansion from 4000 lines to 5000 (c) & (d). Do not arise. lines capacity) of Siliguri telephone exchange is in progress and expected Working of Public Sector Drug to be completed shortly. Manufacturing Units (vi) Microwave system linking Cooch- *288, SHRI Y. S. MAHAJAN : Will the behar-Alipurduar is under installa Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILI tion. ZERS be pleased to state : In addition to these measures, the func (a) whether Government are aware of tioning of telephone exchanges in North the precise reasons why the public sector Bengal area is constantly monitored by the drug manufacturing units have been incu - Regional Director Telecommunications pos rring heavy losses year after year and the ted at Siliguri. losses are due to low capacity utilisation, 29 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 30 lack of formulation facilities, inadequate the operation of these companies. A Stan marketing efforts and non-recovery of dues ding Committee of the public sector drug from various governmental and autonomous enterprises, set up in July, 1984, is attemp bodies; ting to coordinate the marketing strategies of these companies. There is also frequent (b) the special efforts Government are interaction among these enterprises in the making to bring these drug manufacturing matter of R&D. units to the break-even point; a;id (c) whether Government propose to Light Commercial Vehicle Project in revive the idea to have a holding company Madhya Pradesh of all the public sector drug units to stream line their working and make united efforts *292. KUMARI PUSH PA DEVI : Will in R and D and marketing ? the Minister of INDUSTRY AND COM PANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS (a) whether there is a proposal to com AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY mission light commercial vehicle project in AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI Madhya Pradesh; VEERENDRA PATIL) : (a) to (c). While public sector drug companies do have (b) whether the above project is going to some common problems, such as heavy be set up by public sector or private sector; reliance on institutional sales and high outs tandings, the structural problems of Bengal (c) the site selected for the location of Chemicals and PharmaccuticaJs Limited such project; and (BCPL), Smith Satnistreet Pharmaceuticals Limited (SSPL) and Bengal Immunity Limi (d) the steps taken to clear project? ted (BIL) are of a genre different from those of Indian Drugs and Pharmaceuticals Limi THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS AND ted (IDPL) and Hindustan Antibiotics Limi FERT1LZERS AND INDUSTRY AND ted (HAL). COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL) : (a) to (d). M/s. Eicher Motors IDPL - and HAL were set up for the Ltd. and Bajaj Tempo Ltd, have been issued production of essential and life saving bulk industrial licences for setting up of new units drugs at a stage when technologies were not in District Dhar, M,P. for the manufacture readily available and private entrepreneurs of 12,000 and 10,000 Nos. of light com were not readily forthcoming to set up pro mercial vehicles respectively. The units are duction facilities for these drugs. Their main expected to go into production during 1986. problems now are a product-mix predomi- nently comprising Category 1 and Category II drugs and formulations with lower mark Compulsory Recruitment Quota into Army From Trained and Certificate up, teconology lag and higher costs of pro Holder N.C-C Cadets duction from the basic stage. Attempts are being made to upgrade the technologies and *294 SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS to rationalise the production facilities. MUNSI : Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state : BCPL, SSPL and BIL were sick com panies in the private sector, which were va) whether his Ministry propose to fix nationalised essentially on social grounds. compulsory recruitment quota into Army SSPL is expected to break-even in 1984-85. from senior division trained and certificate BCPL and BIL have to be nurtured and holder N.C.C. cadets; and rejuvenated over long periods. (b) if not, the reasons therefor ? As the public sector drug companies are not homogeneous, setting up a holding com THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI pany is not considered to be a solution to P.V. NARASIMHA RAO): (a) and (b). The their problems. However, efforts are being Indian Army being a voluntary force where made to secure integrated coordination in recruitment is based solely on merit and 31 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1685 Written Answers 32 willingness, no compulsory quota has been (b) The Offiioe of the Development fixed in recruitment for any category of Commissioner, Small Scale Industries is class of people. headed by a very senior officer of the rank of Additional Secretary* The Small Scale 2. 32 seats per course (out of total seats Sector is a part of the industrial sector, and of 150) in the Indian Military Acadcmy have as such, there is no need for creation of a been earmarked for the National Cadet separate department of small scale industries Corps ‘C’ Certificate holders. However, under a separate Secretary. these candidates are first required to go through and qualify in the Combined Defe Multi-nationals’ entry b 1to consumer nce Services Examination conducted by the fields Union Public Service Commission and inter views conducted by the Services Selection *297. SHRI A JOY BISWAS : Will the Boards, like other candidates. From the Minister of INDUSTRY AND COMPANY combined merit list prepared by the Union AFFAIRS be pleased to state : Public Service Commission based on the per formance in the UPSC written examination (a) whether Government are allowing the and Services Selection Boards, 118 candi multinationals’ entry into consumer fields dates, figuring at the top of the merit list like toothpaste, cigarettes, razor blades, soaps arc picked up. From the remaining, 32 etc.; candidates with NCC 'C’ Certificates are (b) the number and names of foreign picked up according to their inter-se merit. companies allowed collaborations in this In case adequte number of NCC ‘C’ Certi field; ficate holders are not available, such number of seats as are left over after absorbing the (c) whether Government are aware that eligible NCC *C‘ Certificate holders, are such collaborations are against the interest taken from the main list. of the country; and 3. In view of the policy of the Govern (b) if so, the reasons for allowing the ment to keep recruitment to the officer cadre same ? of the Army open only to volunteers, on the basis of merit, Government do not propose THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS to fix any compulsory recruitment quota into AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY Army from senior division trained and Certi AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ficate holder NCC cadets. VEERENDRA PATIL) : (a) to (d). Govern ment’s policy in regard to foreign collabora tion is selective and need based. Foreign Creation of a Secretary's post to look collaboration is allowed in sophisticated and after growth of Small Scale Industry high priority areas, in export oriented or im port substitution manufacturing or for enabl *296. SHRI R. ANNANAMBI : Will ing indigenous industry to update existing the Minister of INDUSTRY AND COM technology in India to meet effectively PANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : changing consumer preference and/or to be come competitive in the export market. (a' whether the Parliamentary Committee Details showing the name of the Indian on Public Undertakings has re-emphasised party, foreign collaborator, item of manufac the urgency for creating a post of a Secretary ture etc. are given in the quarterly publica to look after exclusively to the growth of tion of Indian Investment Centre as a supple the Small Scale Industry sector; and ment to its Monthly Newsletter. Copies of this publication are sent to the Parliament (b) if so, the decision taken by Govern Library. ment in the matter 7 Drilling of Oil Wells in Gandhar THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS Area, Gujarat AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI *298. SHRI R.P. GAEKWAD : Will the VEERENDRA PATIL) ; (a) Yes, Sir, Minister of PETROLEUM be pleased to 33 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Writtm Amwers 34 refer to the reply given to Unstarred Ques (i) Indian Telephone Industries Limited tion No. 414 on 24th July, 1984 regarding (ITI). light oil of high quality tapped in Gandhar area, Gujarat and state : (ii) Gujarat Communication* and Electro*' nics Limited. (a) whether oil was struck in a well The location of the industries and their drilled at Gandhar in Waghra taluka of licensed capacity are indicated below ;— Broach district in Gujarat; Name of Location Licensed (b) whether drilling of another well has the unit capacity commenced in Gandhar area; par annum l.T.I. (i) Bangalore, 5.0 lakh Nos. (c) if so, whether the quantity of light Karnataka oil of high quality produced or likely to be tapped from this structure, has been estima (ii) Naini, Uttar 5.5 lakh Nos. ted; and Pradesh (d) if so, the details thereof ? (iii) Srinagar, J&K 1.0 lakh Nos. GCEL Baroda, Gujarat 5.0 lakh No*. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI (b) To meet the increasing demand of NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a) and telephones, the government have further (b). Yes, Sir. The second well has since licensed 8 companies in the State sector with been drilled to the target depth of 3300 a licensed capacity of 32 lakh nos. per metres and is currently under production annum. In addition, certain companies in testing. the Private Sector are also issued/being issued letters of intent for manufacture of (c) and (d). The quantity of oil that telephones. could be produced from the structure will depend upon the results of further explora (c) & (d). Yes Sir. Orissa State Elec tion. tronics Development Corporation (OSEDC) has proposed to establish a telephone indus try at Bhubaneswar. A letter of intent has Establishment or New Telephone Industries already been granted to OSEDC for capacity *299. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA : of 2 lakh nos. of push button telephone ins Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS truments per annum. be pleased to state : BHEL/Siemens collaboration with KWU (a) the number of telephone industries of West Germany working in the country, their location and production capacity ; *300. SHRI AMAL DATTA : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY AND COMPANY (b) the names of places where Govern AFFAIRS be pleased to statr : ment have decided to establish new telephone industries during the year 1985-86 to meet (a) whether BHEL/Siemens have been the increasing demand of telephones ; permitted to have collaboration with KWU of West Germany knowing well that the (c) whether there is any proposal to latter use two different types of Di Isocya establish a telephone industry in Orissa ; nates in their system as curing agent ; and (b) whether KWU also uses dangerous (d) if so, the site selected ? chemicals like Imidazone for their produc tion : THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (c) if so, would it be a health hazard MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS for the peopie of this country ; and (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) The following companies are manufacturing tele (d) whether BHEL’s own R&D is being phones in the country :— stopped in the name of Bhopal tragedy ? 35 Written Answers APRIL 2, , 1985 Written Answers 36 THB MINISTER OF CHEMICALS (b) whether there was a proposal to bring, AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY Pithoragarh town under this scheme by 1983 AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI VEE 84 ; and RENDRA PATIL) : (a) and (b). BHEL was permitted to enter into collaboration with (c) if so, the reasons for delay and the M/s. Kraft Werk Union (KWU) of West details of the remedial steps already taken or Germany in 1976 for manufacture of turbo proposed to be taken ? generators and in 1981 for manufacture of Steam Surface Condensers. Government axe THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE not aware whether KWU use dangerous MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS chemicals in their manufacturing programmes. (SHRI RAM N1WAS MIRDHA) : (a) By The technologies for manufacture of turbo the end of 7th Plan. generators and steam surface condensers for which BHEL has entered into collaboration (b) Yes, Sir. with KWU, however, do not involve the use of Di Isocynate or Imidazone. (c) For technical reasons, the site at Pithoragarh had to be changed twice. A (c) Does not arise in view of reply to suitable new site at this place has now been (a) and (b). finalized. Land acquisition case is in progress and is being persued vigorously with the (d) No, Sir. A development project in State Government. volving Isocynates is however, under exami nation by BHEL’s Safety Committee. [English] Sale of smuggled Life-Sating Drugs Foreign Collaboration Agreements *301 SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN : 1707. SHRI VIJAY KUMAR YADAV : Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND Will the Minister of INDUSTRY AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state : COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : (a) whether smuggled life-saving drugs (a) whether a number of Indian manu are being sold in the country ; and facturers of cars, tempos, motor-cycles, scooters and mopeds have entered into tech (b) if so, the details in this regard ? nical collaboration agreements with foreign companies since the year 1983-84 ; THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY (b) if so, the details of such agreements AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI VEE with names of the Indian and foreign com RENDRA PATIL) : (a) My Ministry is not panies in each case, nature of agreements aware of any smuggled life-saving drugs and yearly production target; and being sold in the country. (c) the reasons for allowing such a spurt (b) Does not arise. in foreign collaboration agreements recently ? [Translation] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM U.H.F. System in Headquarters of PANY AFFAIRS {SHRI ARIF MOHAM Border Districts of U.P. MAD KHAN) : (a) Yes, Sir. *302. SHRI HARISH RAW AT : Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be (b) A statement is annexed. pleased to state : (c) The import of technology has been (a) the time by which headquarters of permitted with a view to manufacturing border districts of Uttar Pradesh will be modem and fuel efficient vehicles in the covered under Ultra High Frequency system; country. Statement SI. N o. Name of Manufacturer Capacity Natne o f Foreign Collaborator Nature of collaboration rte Annmn Written Passenger Cars 1. Premier Automobiles Ltd. 28600 NiSan Motor Co. Japart, Technical. 2. Hindustan Motors Ltd., 50000 Tsuzu Motor Co. Japan. Technical* 3. Standard Motor Products of India Limited- 2640 Austin Rover Group, UK TeohnicaL HIR 1, 97 (SAKA) 1907 12, CHAITRA Commercial Vehicles 1. Hindustan Motors Ltd., 30000 Isuzu Motor Co. Japan Technical. 2. Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd. 13000 Automobiles. Peugeot, France, Technical. 3. Bajaj Tempo Limited. 30000 Diamler Benz, West Germany. Technical, 4. DCM Toyota Limited. 15000 Toyota Motor Co. Japan. Tech. & Financial 5. Eicher Motor Ltd. 12000 Mitsubishi Motor Co. Japan. : Tech. & Financial 6. Swaraj Mazda Ltd. 10000 Mazda Motor Co. Japan. Tech. & Financial Two Wheelers rte Answers Written 1. Balraj Aggarwaf 100000 Transport Maschinen Import & Export, Technical. GDR. 2. Escorts Limited. 230000 Yamaha Motor Co. Japan. Technical. 3. Ideal Jawa (II) Ltd. 92000 Praha Czechoslovakia. Technical. 4. Kinetic Honda Motors Ltd, 150000 Honda Motor Co. Japan. Technical. 5. Hero Honda Motors Ltd. 200000 Honda Motor Co. Japan. Technical. 6. Shree Chamundi Mopeds. 100000 Cycles Peugeot, France. Technical. 7. Bajaj Auto Limited. 460000 u> Kawasaki Heavy Industries, Japan. Technical. 00 39 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 40 Address by Minister of State for law Production of Alcohol at All India Law Officers Association 1709. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE 1708. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH :PATIL : Will the Minister of CHEMICALS Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state : be pleased to state : (a) the State-wise production of alcohol (a) whether the Union Minister of State during 1983-84 and 1984-85, State-wise ; for Law and Justice addressing All India Law Officers Association on 23rd February, 1985 (b) the quantity produced in sugar fac stressed the need to strengthen the law depart tories, State-wise; ments in the public sector undertakings by according appropriate status to law officers (c) the targets for production for 1985 to curb avoidable litigation; 86 ; and (b) if so, what specific improvements (d) the consumption of alcohol during were suggested by the Association to streng the last three years, year-wise and State-wise then the law departments in public sector details thereof ? units ; and THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS AND (c) the steps taken or proposed to be FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY AND taken by Government in that direction ? COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI VEEREN DRA PATIL) : (a) The State-wise produc THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tion of alcohol during alcohol year 1983-84 MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE. (December, 1983-November, 1984) and esti (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ) : (a) No, Sir. mated production for the alcohol year 1984 85 (December 1984-November, 1985) is What was said was that the Legal De given in Statement-1 attached. partments of Public Sector Undertakings (b) Separate figures of production of were not under the Ministry of Law and alcohol in the distilleries, attached with sugar Justice and the question of establishing a factories are not available. Bureau of Legal Service for such underta kings, which could function under the (c) No such targets have so far been Ministry of Law and Justice, could be fixed. examined in consultation with the other Ministries concerned. (d) the details of total consumption of alcohol during last three alcohol years are (b) and (c). Do not arise. given in statement II attached. Statemeat-I Production o f Alcohol During Alcohol year 1983-84 {December, 1983-Nov. 1984) and Estimated Production o f Alcohol during Alcohol Year 1984-85 {December 1984 November 1985). {Quantity in lakh litres) S. No. Name of the State Actual production Estimated production 1983-84 1984-85 1. Andhra Pradesh 521.22 305.50 2. Assam 8.56 9.00 3. Gujarat 209.46 240.00 4. Himachal Pradesh 2.87 3.00 5. Haryana 111.96 186.75 6. Karnataka 368.36 561.00 7. Kerala 58.64 11.57 8. Madhya Pradesh 131.72 150.00 41 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 42 9. Maharashtra 1465.22 1540.00 10. Nagaland 5.69 9.00 11. Orissa 27.76 21.73 12. Punjab 139.92 181.50 13. Rajasthan 71.85 97.40 14. Tamil Nadu 571.62 520.00 15. Uttar Pradesh 1795.92 1761.00 16. West Bengal 28.00 70.00 17. Pondicherry 19.34 20.00 18. Bihar 220.98 220.00 Total 5759.09 5907.45 Statement II Statement showing Consumption o f Alcohol in the country during the Alcohol Year (Dec-Nov.) 1981-82, 1982-83, 1983-84. Consumption Consumption Consumption Name of the 1981-82 1982-83 1983-84 S. No. State (Dec. 1981-Nov. 82) (Dec. 82-Nov. 83) (Dec. 83-Nov. 1. Uttar Pradesh 1020.00 1165.90 1235.59 2. Bihar 156.74 137.71 160.45 3. Haryana 82.15 85.50 96.21 4. Punjab 159.83 170.50 137.88 5. Assam 18.24 20.00 18.87 6. Orissa 20.45 21.57 24.27 7. Meghalaya 1.50 0.24 0.48 8. West Bengal 529.82 385,66 446.37 9. Madhya Pradesh 97.49 129.02 137.61 10. Rajasthan 94.02 102.46 123.13 11. Maharashtra 1129.85 1224.44 1363.82 12. Gujarat 222.33 190.70 271.06 13. Andhra Pradesh 573.20 577.78 550.04 14. Tamil Nadu 421.82 577.78 646.98 15. Karnataka 376.73 375.49 386.33 16. Kerala 80.71 116.37 122.99 17. Himachai Pradesh 21.23 15.30 15.53 18. Jammu & Kashmir 13.82 14.18 12.99 19. Nagaland 1.23 3.45 2.51 20. Manipur 1.50 0.43 0.72 21. Tripura 1.34 1.26 0.94 22. Sikkim 27.20 18.00 12.73 23. Delhi 36.22 47,96 50.29 24. Pondicherry 18.18 22.28 19.64 25. Goa, Daman & Diu 13.00 30.00 13.74 26. Chandigarh 5.00 5.00 5.00 27. P adra and Nagar Haveli 2.50 5.00 1.86 Total 5125.90 5443.96 5858.03 43 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 44 Malfunctioning of Postal Services in (b) Cost of some of the inputs have gone West Bengal up over the years. 1710. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Will (c) Industrial licences and Letters of the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be Intent issued for the manufacture of drugs pleased to state : and pharmaceuticals are being regularly monitored by the Ministry. Enterpreneurs fa) whether there are increasing public can avail the various incentives offered by complaints about the malfunctioning of postal the Central and State Governments for services in West Bengal; setting up industries. (b) whether any inquiry has been made into allegations of delayed postal deliveries, Import Prices of Drugs missing articles, late opening of post offices, etc; and 1712. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK : Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND (c) if so, the remedial steps taken ? FERTILIZERS be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) whether a number of serious anoma MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS lies concerning import prices of drugs came (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) No, to the notice of Government during the last Sir. three years and particularly after the receipt of the report of the committee set up to (b) & (c). Whenever such complaints are investigate into allegation of large profits by received, prompt enquiries are made and foreign companies; remedial action taken. Confidential and special watch is kept over the working of the (b) the names of the drugs, the prices delivery staff and the receipt/disposal/delivery paid by foreign companies and the details of of mails keeping particular track over the such prices indicating the names of compa disposal of costly magazines. Surprise checks nies; and • are made to ensure timely opening/closing of the Post Offices. The erring officials are (c) the time by which these details would suitably punished. be published by Government in respect of all the Companies ? Manufacture of Life-Saving Drugs THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY 1711. SHRI C. D. GAMIT : Will the AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILI VEERENDRA PATIL) : (a) The import ZERS be pleased to state : prices of drugs very from time to time depen (a) whether there is shortfall in produc ding upon quantity imported, exchange rate, tion as well as in fresh investment in the source of imports etc. The prices of imports life-saving drug industry in the country; made by actual users are as such not fixed by the Government. No serious anomalies in (b) whether the cost of the inputs of the import prices have come to the notice of these drugs has steadily gone up over the the Government. years; and (b) and (c). Do not arise. (c) the steps Government have taken to ensure that the licences issued for the manu Modernisation of Telecommunication System facture of life-saving drugs to the industri alists are speedily utilised ? 1713. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL : Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS & be pleased to state : FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI (a) whether there is any proposal under VEERENDRA PATIL) : (a) Production of Government’s consideration to take up the bulk drugs and formulations has been eonti- programme for modernisation of telecom nuosly increasing in the past few years. munication system; 45 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 46 (b) if so, the details thereof; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (c) the time by which it is likely to be (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) No started; and postal divisions were created in the country during the last two years. (d) the amount earmarked for implemen ting the above programme ? (b) Does not arise. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (c) New postal divisions are created by MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS bifurcation of existing divisions on fulfilment {SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) Yes of certain prescribed departmental norms. Sir. (d) & (e). Does not arise. (b) Amongst the various proposals to introduce modem technology in the Telecom [Translation] munication system in the county are the induction of digital S.P.C. Electronic swit Setting up of Electronic Telephone ching equipment for local and TAX working Exchange in Ghazipur (U.P.) as well as SPC Telex Exchanges. The other proposals include the use of Multi-acess 1715. SHRI ZAINUL BASHER : Will rural radio systems, satellite communication the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be on a more extensive scale in backward, hilly pleased to state : and remote areas as well as between large (a) the time by which the work to set cities, modernisation of telegraphs services up an Electronic Telephone Exchange at and tne induction of a new packet switched Ghazipur (U.P.) will be started; data network. (b) whether machines etc. have been (c) The programme for modernisation of arranged for this work; and Telecommunications systems is proposed to be started with the commencement of 7 th (c) the time by which this work is likely Five Year Plan. to be completed ? (d) This is still under discussion with the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Planning Commission. MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) The Creation of New Postal Divisions in Orissa work to set up Electronic Exchange at Ghazi pur is expected to be taken up after the 1714. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD receipt of equipment in early 1986. SETHI : Will the Minister of COMMUNI CATIONS be pleased to state : (b) The equipment is being finalised. (a) the details regarding the number of (c) The work is likely to be completed postal divisions created in the country during in 1986-87. last two years; (b) the number of postal division created [English] in Orissa; To be answered on the 2nd Aprils 1985. (c) whether Government propose to West Bengal proposal for setting up increase the number of postal divisions in Tractor factory at Durgapur some States; 1716. SHRI PI YUS TIRAKY : Will the (d) if so. whether the proposal to Minister of INDUSTRY AND COMPANY increase the postal divisions in Orissa is AFFAIRS be pleased to state : expected to be given priority; and (a) whether Government of West Bengal (e) if so, the progress made so far m this has sent a proposal for setting up tractor regard ? factory at Durgapur; and 47 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 43 lb) if so, Government thinking on this have been extended S.T.D. facility including proposal of the Government of West Bengal? Sholapur which is having only Incoming S.T.D. facility. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM (b) The remaining district Headquarters PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM are proposed to be provided with S.T.D, MAD KHAN) : (a) No such proposal has facilities during 7th plan period subject to been received in this Ministry from the the availability of switching and transmission Government of West Bengal. equipment. (b; Docs not arise. Details of incidents of booth-capturing violence etc. in elections S.T.D. Facilities in District Headquarters 1718. SHRI J1TENDRA PRASAD A : of Maharashtra SHRIMATI R. R. MAVAN1 : 1717. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI : Will Will the Minister of LAW AND JUS the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be TICE be pleased to state the number of cases pleased to state ; of booth-capturing incidents of violence, killings, separately during the recent Lok (a) the number of district headquarters Sabha and Yidhan Sabha elections, State- in Maharashtra where S.T.D, facilities have wise ? been extended so far; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) the time by which all the district MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE headquarters will be covered by S.T D. (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ) : A Statement scrvice? as furnished by the Election Commission and containing the information in regard to cases THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE of booth-capturing, violence and killings MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS which resulted in taking of fresh poll or (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) Sixteen adjournment of poll is laid on the Table of District Headquarters in Maharashtra State the House. Statement Statement showing the incidents of Booth-capturing , violence and killing during General Elections to Lok Sabha and Legislative Assemblies Lok Sabha Legislative Assemblies Booth-capturing and Adjournment of poll Killings | Fresh poll cases Adjournment of Killings AnswersWritten S. No. Name of the State/ fresh poll cases due to violence | due to booth- poll cases due Remarks Union Territory 1 capturing to violence 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1. Andhra Pradesh 29 1 65 . 13 1* *Candidate repor ted to have been (SAKA) 1907 12, CHAITRA killed. 2. Bihar 159 294** 3 3 + **Included 122 cases of 90% vo ting and so appre hended booth . , 1 capturing. 1 + Candidates repor ted to have been killed. 3. Gujarat — — 2 — — — 4. Haryana 3 — — — — — 5. Jammu & Kashmir 30 1 — — — — 6. Maharashtra — — 2 — — 2 2 3 5 — 7. Manipur 37 — Answers Written 8. Rajasthan I t £Candidate repor ted to have been killed in police encounter. 9. Uttar Pradesh 37 2 — 46 1 — 10. West Bengal 2 — — — — — 11. Arunachal Pradesh — 1 — — — — Total 262 8 9 442 17 7 NB : One case of fresh poll in Orissa due to accidental loss of ballot bux and one case of fresh poll dus to case of impersonation not inclu ded in this Statement. 51 Written Answers. APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 52 Old and natural gas at Kovillcalappal However, it may be mentioned that in Cauvery basin section 20 of the Companies Act, 1956 pro vides that a company shall not be registered 1719. SHRIMATI MADHURI SINGH by: a name, which, 'in the opinion of the Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be Central Government, is undesirable. A name pleased to state : is considered undesirable and a company is not allowed to be registered with such a (a) whether Oil and Natural Gas have name, if, inter-alia> it is intended or likely to been struck at Kovillcalappal in the Cauvery produce a misleading impression regarding Basin; the scope of its activities, which would be beyond the resources at its disposal. The (b) if so, the quality of oil found there; words like ‘Bharat’ and ‘India* may be and allowed when the scope and scale of business (c) other possibilities for the exploration, of the proposed company with reference to its authorised capital (and not the paid up details thereof ? capital) and its area of operation, justify the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE use of such words. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI NAWAL K1 SHORE SHARMA) : (a) Yes, As regards the case referred to in the Sir. news item, it has been reported by the Regis trar of Companies Maharashtra, to whom (b) High quality, light oil. the powers under the aforementioned section stand delegated by the Government, that the (c) Further exploratory drilling to said news item is factually incorrect and that assess the size of the pool and its commer while granting approval to the name of the cial viability is being taken up. Based on the company in question, no restriction as to the geological and geophysical surveys conducted paid up and/or authorised capital was so far, 12 prospects in the on-land part of the imposed. Cauvery Basin have been identified for further drilling. (b) & (c). Does not arise in view of answer to (a) above. Restrictions on using “Bharat” or “India in corporate names of companies 1720. SHRI K. PRADHANI : Will the Opening of New Post Offices in Rajasthan Minister of INDUSTRY AND COMPANY 1721. SHRT BANWARI LAL BAIRWA: AFFAIRS be pleased to slate : Will the Minister of COMMUNICATION (a) whether Government have imposed be pleased to state : any restrictions on companies using “Bharat” (a) the number of Post Offices working or “India” in their corporate names if their at present in Rajasthan; paid up capital is less than one crore, as stated in the news item appearing in the (b) whether Government propose to ‘Business Standard5, Calcutta dated the 5th open new Post Offices in the State during the March, 1985; financial Year 1985-86; (b) if so, the details thereof; and (c) if so, the names of the places where (c) the circumstanccs in which Govern these are likely to be opened; and ment took such a decision ? (d) the revised norms for opening of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE new Post Offices in rural, hill and tribal MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM areas? PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM MAD KHAN) : (a) No, Sir. The Govern THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ment have not imposed any restrictions on MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS companies using “Bharat” or “ India” in (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) 9620 their corporate names if their paid up capi Post Offices are at present working in Rajas tal is less than Rs. one crore. than, 53 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 54 (b) & (c). The annual targets for open (a) There is no other Post Office ing of Post Offices is yet to be finalised. within the radius of 3 Kms. from the proposed Post Office; (d) The norms in existancc for opening and of Post Offices in rural, backward and tribal areas are enclosed as statement. (b) The proposed Post Office is expected to yield income to the Statement extent of atleast 10 per cent of its estimated cost. New norms for opening of Post Offices (ii) Post Offices in non gram-panchayat in rural area village may be opened subject to the Post Offices to be opened, in rural areas following conditions : have now been classified into two main (a) The village or (an integrated categories : — cluster of villages within a radius of 1,5 Kms.) should have a 1. Post Office in normal rural areas; population of 1,000 or more; and 2. Post Offices in tribal or backward (b) There should not be another areas. Post Office within the radius of 3 Kms. from the proposed (1) Post Offices in normal rural areas : Post Office; and (i) Post Offices in gram-panchayat (c) The proposed Post Office is ex villages may be opened subject to pected to yield income to the the following conditions : extent of atleast 10% of its esti mated cost. (a) There is no other Post Office within the radius of 3 Kms. (3) Not withstanding the above, the from the proposed post office; Postmasters General are hereby empowered and to relax (in consultation with the Internal Financial Adviser) any of the above cited (b) The proposed Post Office is norms in 10 per cent of the cases in opening expected to yield income to the of Post Offices every year. extent of atlcast 25 percent of its estimated cost. Allotment of cooking gas agencies to Scheduled Castes/Scheduled tribes (ii) Post Offices in non gram-panchayat in Maharashtra villages may be opened subject to the following conditions : 1722. SHRI R.M. BHOYE : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be pleased to (a) The population of the village state : should be 2,000 or more; (a) the number of cooking gas agencies (b) There is no other Post Office (Bharat and HPC) in the country at present, within the radius of 3 Kms. State-wise; from the proposed office; and (b) whether 25 percent of the gas agen (c) The Post office is expected to cies are reserved for Scheduled Castes and yield income to the extent of Scheduled Tribes ; atleast 25% of its estimated cost. (c) whether this percentage of gas agen cies have been allotted to Scheduled Castes (2) Post Offices in tribal and backward and Scheduled Tribes in Maharashtra; and areas (i) Post offices in gram-panchayat (d) if not, the reasons therefor and the villages may be opened subject to steps Government propose to take in this the following conditions : regard ? 55 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 56 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Petroleum Corporation Ltd. and Hindustan MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI Petroleum Corporation Ltd. in the country NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (al The State-wise as on 1.3.85 is as below :— number of Cooking Gas Agencies of Bharat Bharat Petroleum Hindustan Petroleum State Corporation Ltd. Corporation Ltd- Andhra Pradesh 27 136 Bihar — 7 Haryana 8 10 Himachal Pradesh — 1 Gujarat 36 64 Jammu & Kashmir — 21 Karnataka 29 61 Kerala 15 8 Madhya Pradesh 17 53 Maharashtra 150 215 Orissa — 26 Punjab . 16 11 Rajasthan 11 23 Uttar Pradesh ’ 26 14 West Bengal — 45 Tamil Nadu 34 19 Union Territories Delhi 21 21 Chandigarh 1 4 Goa, Daman and Diu 5 13 Dadra and Nagar Havel i — 1 Pondicherty 1 — Total 397 753 (b) Yes, Sir. (c) Yes, Sir. (d) Does not arise. 57 Written Answers CHA1TRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 58 [Translations] (ii) Post Offices in non gram-Panchayat villages may be opened subject to the follow Opening of Post Offices in villages ing conditions ;— of Faizabad District (U.P.) (a) The population of the village should 1723 SHRI NIRMAL KHATRI : Will be 2,000 or more; the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : (b) There is no other Post Office within the radius of 3 Kms. from the pro (a) the number of villages in Faizabad posed office; and district (UP) which had no Post Offices at (c) The Post Office is expected to yield the end of 19?4; income to the extent of atleast 25% of its estimated cost. (b) whether Government propose to open Post Offices in these villages; find (2) Post Offices in tribal and backward areas : (c) the priorities and criteria laid down in this regard ? (I) Post Offices in giam-Panchayat villages may be opened subject to the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE following conditions: MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) 2091 (a) There is no other Post Office within the radius of 3 Kms. from the pro (b) and (c). It is proposed to open Post posed Post Office; and Offices in such villages which fulfil the norms laid down by the Department in a phased (b) The proposed Post Office is expected manner every year subject to the availability to yield income to the extent of atleast of funds etc. 10 per cent of its estimeted cost. (ii) Post Offices in non gram-Panchayat A copy of the existing norms is enclosed villages may be opened subject to the as statement. following conditions Statement (a) The village or (an integrated cluster of villages within a radius of 1.5Kms.) New norms for opening o f Post Officcs in should have a population of 1,000 rural areas: , or more; Post Offices to be opened in rural areas (b) There should not be another Post have now been classified into two main Office within the radius of 3 Kms. categories : — from the proposed Post Office; and (c) The proposed Post Office is expected 1. Post Offices in normal rural areas; to yield income to the extent of and atleast 10% of its estimated cost. 2. Post Offices in tribal or backward (3) Notwithstanding the above, the Post areas. masters General are hereby empowered to (1) Post Offices in normal rural areas : relax (in consultation with the Internal Finan cial Adviser) any of the above cited norms (i) Post Offices in gram-panchayat villa in 10 per cent of the case in opening of Post ges may be opened subjcct to the following Offices every year. conditions : Opening of Outlets for Diesel and (a) There is no other Post Office withi n Kerosene In Madhy Pradesh the radius of 3 Kms. from the pro posed Post Office; and [English] (b) The proposed Post Office is expected 1724. SHRI PRATAP BHANU to yield income to the extent of atleast SHARMA : Wili the Minister of PETRO 25 per cent of its estimated cost. LEUM be pleased to state : 59 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers . 60 (a) the number of new outlets for diesel Pending Applications for New Telephone and kerosene proposed and opened in Vidisha Connections in Delhi and Raisen districts of Madhya Pradesh dur ing the last three years by different petro 1725. SHRI HAFIZ MOHAMMAD leum companies, details thereof; and SIDDIQ : SHRI YOGESHWAR PRASAD : (b) the number of the outlets not started Will the Minister of COMMUNICA so far and the reasons therefbr ? TIONS be pleased to lay on the Table a statement showing : THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI (a) Exchange-wise and Category-wise NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA^ : (a) The waiting list of applications pending for tele number of diesel/Petrol retail outlets and phone connections in the various Telephone SKO-LDO agencies proposed and opened in Exchanges in the capital; Vidisha and Raisen districts of Madhya Pradesh during the last three years ending (b) the last date upto which covered; and 1984*85 by the oil companies is given btlow; (c) the anticipated period by which the Proposed presant waiting lists will be cleared ? Vidisha Raisen RO SKO-LDO RO SKO-LDO THE MINISTER OF STATE FOR COM 2 2 3 1 MUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS Commissioned/ Opened MTRDHA) : (a) & (b). The waiting list and the last date of release of, new telephone con Vidisha Raisen nections exchange-wise and category-wise in RO SKO-LDO RO SKO-LDO Delhi is given in the statement attached. — 2 1 1 (c) The present waiting list is likely to be (b) Selection of dealers for 2 retail cleared progressively during 7th Five Year outlets, 2 SKO dealerships in Vidisha district Plan pariod, subject to availablity of mate and 3 retail outlets and 1 SKO dealership in rials and resources. Raisen district is under way through the concerned Oil Selection Board. Statement Number o f Persons on waiting list & clearance as on 1.3.1985 in Delhi Total ** Conn. Re No. of Conn. Re No. of Conn. Re No. of Conn. Re- No. of Conn. Re No. of No. of Name of leased upto persons leased upto persons leased upto persons [leased upto persons leased upto persons persons AnswersWritten Exchange Level OYT-Genl. on W/L OYT-Spl. on W/L Genl. o.i W/L Spl. on W/L SS on W/L Waiting Central Area Janpath 31,32, 34, 35 10.6.81 294 24.4.82 28 8 16.9.80 1 451 29.2.84 40 29.2.84 8 2,081 Sectt. 37 20.2.81 102 24.10.80 307 12.7.79 237 29.2.84 3 29.2.84 16 665 (SAKA) 1907 12, CHAITRA Rajpath, 38 14.7.78 234 16.5.80 688 14.10.77 927 19.11.79 78 31.12.80 50 1,971 Con. Place 4, 8.10.82 93 14.10.82 88 21.10.82 327 31.7.84 3 31.7.84 • • • 511 Jorfciagh 61, 62, 69 29.3.84 180 3.4.84 142 24.7.80 4,773 29.2.84 163 6.6.84 81 5,339 North Area Tis Hazari 23, 25, 291 28.2.85 • • • 28.2.85 • . . 22.1! .83 3,808 28.2.85 • ■ - 28.2 85 • • • 3,808 Shakti Ngr. 71, 74 31.1.84 326 31.1.84 94 12.3.80 17,379 31.1.84 410 31.1.64 49 18,258 Badli 746 19.2.82 26 31.8.84 V 2 6.79 436 7.5.80 80 31.8.84 • • • 543 Alipur 745 30.6.84 30.6.*4 4.5.84 29 30.6.84 • • • 30.6.84 • • • 29 Narela 747 29.5.84 4 29.5.84 6 5.6.81 226 1.5.84 5 1.5.84 241 Shahdara East-1 20 1.5.79 162 31.5.80 133 26.10.76 4,685 12.5.77 496 31.5.80 57 5,533 East Area Shahdara and Answers Written Laxmi Nagar 21, 24 14.7.78 443 29.2.80 229 19.1.65 8,579 8.7.70 959 31.5.80 122 10,332 Shahdara East-II 86 30.11.83 96 30.11.83 6 18.4.80 339 30.6.83 29 30.11.83 2 472 Delhi Gate 26, 27 21.2.81 439 25.6.81 360 28.12.79 7,032 13.7 82 192 31.10.83 12 8,035 Idgah 51, 52, 77 23.2,85 16 23.10.85 ... 26.7.82 5,777 23.2.85 11 23.2.85 ... 5,KM Soutfa Area OkMa 63 6.8.80 693 23.4.82 200 30.4.79 5,073 20.a.SL 500 30.9.82 83 6,549 HauzkhM 65, 66 13.5.82 714 13.10.82 452 7.5.79 8,170 5.4.83 359 31.1.84 MS 9,868 Chaokyapuri 60, 67 22.2.85 2 26.2.85 3 23.5.83 2,595 10.4.84 117 31.145 16 2,733 Nehru Mace 64, 0ft 25.9.80 1,277 24.7.82 456 15.1.80 5,203 30.9.82 235 30.9.82 152 7.323 West Area Karol Bagh 56, 57, 58 1.3.85 1.3.85 26.11.82 7,503 14.2.85 10 14.2.85 7,513 Rajouri Garden 50, 58, 59 30.3.81 1,255 23.11.81 416 19.8.75 19,529 29.8.81 1,202 30 9.82 155 22,557 Cantt. 39 31.1.84 5 31.1.84 61 21.9.83 278 31.1.84 19 31.1.84 12 377 Janakpuri 55 5.11.80 148 5.1.81 118 6.4.78 3,173 5.1.81 186 31.12.82 33 3,658 AnswersWritten Najafgarh 806 27.2.82 5 23.10.81 2 8.9.78 221 27.11.78 20 31.1.84 ... 248 Nangloi 87 25.7.83 16 8.7.83 11 12.1.79 580 16.10.80 83 30.11.83 4 694 ...... __— Note :—The dates of clearance mentioned above indicates the dates of registration upto which conns, have been released. There might be a time gap bet ween release of conns, and their installation. PI, , 1985 2, APRIL, Waiting List o f Telex Exchanges as on 1.3.85. Genl. Category No. of persons Priority category No. of persons Exc:h. Processed upto on W'L processed upto on W/L Total New Delhi 15.12.84 108 15.12.84 10 H8 GBD 30.4.84 3 31.7.85 1 4 FBD 31.1.85 I 31.1.85 * » . 1 Total 112 11 123 rte Answers Written Waiting List of PBXsjPABXs Size of PBXs with No. of Extns. Size of PABXs with No. of Extns. 1 + 3 2+6 3+9 5+20 10 + 50 20+100 1+1+5 3+3+9 4+4+25 8+8+50 50‘L’ E* 10+10+100 25 26 65 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 66 Commercial L.P.G. Connections in Delhi (c) the action taken on the reports of the two Committees by the 1983 Chief Jus 1726. SHRI ZA1NAL ABEDJN : Will tices Conference dealing with the problem of the Minister of PETROLEUM be pleased to arrears and service conditions in the judiciary state : including the subordinate judiciary ? fa) whether the Indian Oil Corporation Limited Surya Kiran Building, New Delhi is THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE not issuing any commercial LPG connections MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE in the Union Territory of Delhi; (SHRI II. R BHARDWAJ) : (a) The ques tion of evolving a code of ethics and conduct (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and was considered by the Government in consu (c) the number of applicants registered ltation with the Chief Justice of India and it with the various dealers of commercial LPG was decided that laying down hard and fast connections in Delhi during the last three rules of conduct would be detrimental to the years and the number of commercial LPG high position and status enjoyed by the connections given during the same period ? Judges.' THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) The proceedings of the Chief Justices MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI Conference, 1985, have not been received, so NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a) Com far, by the Government. mercial LPG connections are presently not being released in the Union Territory of (c) An Informal Committee of Chief Delhi except to Government Schools. These Justices has been constituted to examine the releases are being resumed in April, 1985. problem of arrears in High Courts and re commend remedial measures. The Govern (b) Release of new commercial connec ment have examined various resolutions of tions was temporarily kept in abeyance on the Chief Justices Conference, in regard to in account of ooerational constraints. crease in sumptuary allowance, retirement age of High Court Judges and provision of (c) Applications for commercial LPG free water and electricity to the Judges of connections are not registered by the distri High Courts and not accepted these recom butors of the Oil Companies. The number of mendations. The resolution relating to commercial connections released in Delhi advance arrangements for accommoda between March 15, 1982 and March 15, 1985 tion of transferred Judges has been is 395. transmitted to the State Governments and concerned Union Territories for their action. Action taken on recommendations of Coni- The Government have examined the resolu mitee of Judges of judicial administration tion regarding conveyance allowance payable to the Judges and have agreed to increase it 1727. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY : Will to Rs 500/- P.M. A Bill to amend the the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be Supreme Court Judges (Conditions of Service) pleased to state : Act, 1958 and the High Court Judges (Con (a) the action taken on the note of the ditions of Service) Act, 1954 will be intro Committee of Judges of the Supreme Court duced in Parliament very shortly. prepared in 1977 and circulated among High Courts, laying emphasis on the proposed code As regards the other resolutions on im of ethics for the judges lo check deterioration proving the service conditions of Judges and of standards and fall in values; subordinary judiciary these are at various stages of examination. (b) the principal recommendations made at the Conference of Chief Justice of the High Courts held in Delhi from the 19th to [Trans fat ion] 21st February. 1985 under the Chairmanship Factories Run by Foreign Companies of the Chief Justice of India, which reviewed the working of the judicial administration in 1728. SHRI D1LTP SINGH BHURIA : the country so as to evaluate ways for im Will the Minister of INDUSTRY AND proving its functioning; and COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : 67 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 68 (a) the details of factories in the country PANY. AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM being run by foreign companies and the MAD KHAN) : (a) to (c). Three companies amount invested therein; incorporated in the United Kingdom and re gistered under Section 592 of the Companies (b) the names of the countries to which Act, 1956, and having place of business in these foreign companies belong; India have factories in India. Required in (c) whether all these companies are wor formation in regard to these three companies king as per terms and conditions of the as per the latest balance sheets and profits licence; and loss accounts filed by them with the Registrar of Companies, Delhi, as shown in (d) whether these companies send most the attached Statement. of their profit to the foreign countries through unfair means; (d) The remittances by the companies in India have to be through banking channels (e) whether Government audit the and with requisite exchange control permis accounts of these companies regularly; and sion. Any violations of these requirements are actionable under the Foreign Exchange (f) whether irregularities have been found Regulation Act, 1973. in such audit of any company, if so, action taken against each of them with the details (e) No, Sir. There are no provisions in thereof ? the Companies Act for Government to aduit accounts of these companies. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM (f) Does not arise. Statement 1. Name of the Titaghur Jute Factory The Samnuggur Jute The Victoria Jute Company PLC Factory Company Company Limited Ltd. 2 . Country to United Kingdom United Kingdom United Kingdom which the foreign com panies belong 3. Year for which Year ending Year ending Year ending audited 30-6-1982 30.6 1982 30.6.1982 accounts have been filed 4. Investments by the foreign companies in the Indian branches (a) Share Capital Rs. 312.30 lacs Rs. 123.75 lacs Rs. 90.75 lacs (b) Reserves and Rs. 96.61 lacs Rs. 71.47 lacs Rs. 70.92 lacs Surpluses (c) Profit and ( —)Rs. 15.28 lacs (— )Rs. 115.08 lacs ( -)R s. 246.23 lacs Loss Account Debit balance 5, Item (s) of Jute Goods Jute Goods Jute Goods and •. m a nu fact ure Castings 6. Licenced Covered by sec lion Covered by section Covered by Section capacity 10 or the I.D.R.Act. 10 of the I.D.R. 10 of the I.D.R. L’cence docs not in Act. Licence does Act. Licence does dicate any capacity. not indicate any not indicate any capacity. capacity, 69 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 70 7. Installed 28,700 tons 29,800 tons 29,650 tons of Jute capacity* goods and 1,140 tons of Castings 8. Production 21,835 tons 28,275 tons 22,430 tons of Jute goods and 410 tons of Castings *As certified by the companies’ technical experts. Note : Items 4,5,6,7 and 8 are as on 30.6.1982 or for the year ending 30.6.1982 as the case may be and are based on the last available audited balance sheets and Profit and Loss Accounts of the companies. [English] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM Liberalisation in Import of Medicines to PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM Fight Glucoma MAD KHAN) : (a) Yes Sir. 1729. SHRI ANIL BASU : Will the (b) At present there is no separate Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILI scheme for assisting women entrepreneurs. ZERS be pleased to state : (a) whether Government have any plan to liberalise the import of Medicines like Expansion of Telecommunication facilities Pilocarpine and Timolol used to fight glu in Orissa during 1985-86 coma in the near future; 1731. SHRIMAT1JAYANTI PATNA1K: (b) if so, the details thereof; Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : (c) if not, the reasons therefor ? (a) whether Government have a propo THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS sal to expand the telecommunications facili AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI VEERENDRA ties in Orissa during 1985-86 financial year: PATIL) : (a) to (c). Import of Pilocarpine bulk drug is already permitted under Open (b) if so, the number of new Telegraph General Licence. Timolol is yet to be cleared Engineering Divisions proposed to be opened for marketing in the country. However, any in 1985-86; and individual or doctor can import Timolol for personal use by getting a personal licence (c) the number of new telephone exchan from the Drug Controller (India). ges, major and medium automatic exchanges and telex exchanges proposed lu be opend at Assistance to Women Entrepreneurs different places in Orissa under the teie-com- munication expansion programme in the 1730. SHRI NARSINGRAO SURYA- above financial year ? WANSHI : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE state : MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (a) whether his attention has been drawn (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : ^a) Yes, to the news item appeared in the Deccan Sir. Herald of 15th February, 1985 with the cap tion “Bright start for Women entrepreneurs’ (b) Nil. Meet” ; and (c) Major and medium automatic ex (b) how far the Union Government is changes will be opened at Sambalpur, Bala- involved or likely to be involved in assisting soec, Jaypore in 1985-86, New Talex ex Women Entrepreneurs in carrying on their changes of 20-lines capacity will be opened assignments and also in formulation of their at Barbil, Barham pur and Sambalpur during plan of action ? 1985-86. ?1 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 72 Refills for L.P.G. Consumers outside Delhi (b) to (d . A contract was signed with M/s. Compagnie Generale De Geophysique 1732. SHRIMATI KISHORI SIN HA : (CGG) of France for carrying out 7,200 Line Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be pleas Kms of seismic survey and processing of ed to state : data. The work commenccd in January, 85. (a) whether LPG consumers outside 836 Line kms of scismic surveys and 187 line Delhi are forced to wait for several days to kms of processing of data has already been get refills for their gas cylinders; and done. Infrastructural facilities have been esta blished at Jodhpur and other field areas. A (b) if so, the steps proposed to be taken computer has been imported for data proces to end this wait ? sing and has been commissioned. Exploratory drilling will commence in 1985-86. Action THE MINISTER OF STATE IN has been initiated for procurement of an THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM imported drilling rig. (SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA} : (a) LPG consumers in towns other lhan Delhi [English] also have sometimes to wait for some days for their refills. Repayment ot Raw Material Advances by Wymon Gordon Forge and Allied Industries (b) Efforts are made by the oil industry Limited, Kudal, Maharashtra on a continuous basis to take care of tempo rary shortages anywhere in supply, besides 1734. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : the action being taken to augment availability Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased of LPG and the bottilng capacity in the to state : country. (a) whether Wymon Gordon Forge and [Translation] Allied Industries Limited at Kudal in the backward Konkan region of Maharashtra, Oil Drilling work in Rajasthan by Oil India has sent a proposal to the Defence Depart 1733. SHRI VIRDH1 CHANDER JAIN: ment on the 11th February, 1985 in regard to Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be pleas the repayment of raw material advances given ed to state : to the company; (a) the number of areas in Rajasthan ib) if so, the salient feetures of this pro district-wise selected by Oil India for locating posal; oil and gas there; (c) wheiher Government propose to im (b) the details of the progirss made so plement the proposal both in the interest of far in regard to survey work there; workers employed in the industry and also (c) whether modern machines are being of the defence needs; and imported from foreign coumries for drilling (d) the time by which the proposal will oil and if so, the details in this regard; and be implemented ? (d) the time by which oil drilling work is likely to be started ? THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI P. V. NARASIMHA RAO) : (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) The proposal in short, is as under : MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a, Oil has been licensed to explore for hydrocarbons The firm has proposed that out of the in the following districts of Rajasthan : total advance given to it by Defence Ministry the liabilities of the firm should be adjusted (i) Jaisalmer by deducting only part of the bill of Rs. 8.99 lakhs of the firm dated 30.12.84 and the re (ii) Bikaner maining amount of advance may be deduct (iiii Ganganagar ed on prorata basis at 38% against each sub sequent biii submitted in future by the com (iv) Jodhpur pany while completing the remaining orders. 73 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 74 Here it may be mentioned that the’ firm mini Cement plants during the period 1980 was given a total advance of Rs. 46 lakhs of to 1984; which about Rs, 35 lakhs is still outstanding. These advances are not covcred by Bank (b) what is their State-wise break-up Guarantees. and product ion capacities allocated; and (c1) and (d).The proposal of the Company is under examination and a decision will be (c) how many of them have commenced production and how many are likely to com taken early. mence production by 1986 ? Licences issued for mini Cement Plants THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM 1735. SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL : Will thePANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM Minister of INDUSTRY AND COMPANY MAD KHAN) : (a) to (c). A statement AFFAIRS be pleased to state : showing the required details is annexed. (a) the number of licences issued for Statement No. of Industrial Licensed No. of units No. of Units that are likely to Licenses issued Capacity which have ______commence production* State for mini cement (in lakh commenced In the remaining In 1986 . plants during tonnes) production part of 1985 the period 1980 to 1984 Andhra 10 6.60 Pradesh Gujarat 4.62 Himachal 0.66 Pradesh Karnataka 3.96 Maharashtra 0.66 Madhya 1.32 Pradesh Rajasthan 1.98 Uttar 0.60 Pradesh Total 31 20.40 11 10 *Based on the periodical progress reports received from the Licence holders. 75 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 76 Linking of Baramulla Town in Jammu and West Bengal Government under the provi Kashmir with Delhi by S.T.D. sions of Industries (Development and Regu 1736. PROF. SAIFUDD1N SOZ : Will lation) Act. the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : (b) to (d) . The information is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the (a) whether Government envisage to put House. all the major citics/iowns on direct tele-com munication link with Delhi; and Suggestions Made by NDPDC (b) if so, the time by which Baramulla Town in Jammu and Kashmir will be connec 1738. SHRI S.M. GURADDI ted with Delhi by S.T.D. ? SHRI R. P. DAS : Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE FERTILIZERS be pleased to state : MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) Yes, (a) whether the steering group set up by Sir. the National Drugs and Pharmaceuticals Development Council has submitted its (b) Baramulla is proposed to be con suggestions ; nected with Delhi by S.T.D. during the 7th Plan period. (b) if so, the details of their suggestions with regard to new drug policy ; Sick Industries taken over by Union Government in West Bengal (c) whether these suggestions have been accepted by Government; and 1737. SHRI BHOLA NATH SEN : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY AND COM (d) if so, the time by which Government PANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : is likely to announce their new drug policy ? (a) The number of industrial units in West Bengal, the management of which has THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS been taken over by the Union Government AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY under the industries (Development and Regu AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI VEE lation) Act, 1951 and for which the Govern RENDRA PATIL. : (a) The Steering Com ment of West Bengal has been appointed as mittee set up by the National Drugs and the Authorised Controller ; Pharmaceutical Development Council sub mitted its suggestions and recommendations (b) the variation in the operational and to the National Drugs and Pharmaceuticals financial performance of these units during Development Council on 18th August, 1984. the period between 1978-79 to 1983-84; (b) The essential features of the sugges (c) the steps taken by Authorised Con tions of the Steering Committee of the troller to make these Units economically National Drugs and Pharmaceutical Develop viable during the above period; and ment Council are as follows : (d) whether there is a reduction in the (H Special attention need be paid by total number of persons now employed in the Government to the priority these units as compared to the total number drugs— drugs which are widely used of persons employed in such units before the in the medical practice and are management was taken over by Government? required for National Programmes for eradication of major diseases THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE like TB, Leprosy, Malaria etc. MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM (ii) That policy should be reoriented to MAD KHAN) : (a) Presently 11 industrial ensure that drugs are available in undertakings are being managed by the abundant quantity at fair priccs and Authorised Controllers appointed by the with good quality also ; and Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 78 (iii) The price control should have a (e) The present production of scooters, lesser span than now and that only motorcycles and 3-wheelers is as follows drugs in priority list will be under (Fig. in ‘000) price control and that rest of the drugs should be free from price Name of the product Years control. 1982 1983 1984 (c) and (d). The suggestions of the Steer ing Committee were considered by the 1. Scootcrs 140 169 187 National Drugs and Pharmaceutical Develop ment Council. Government has not taken 2. Mini Motorcycles 9 25 27 any decision on the recommendations of the National Drugs and Pharmaceutical Develop 3. Three-wheelers 23 27 30 ment Council so far. (f) & (g) . The company is implement ing its expansion project at Aurangabad for Agreement between Bajaj Auto and a licensed capacity of 3,00,000 two-wheelers Kawasdki of Japan and hopes to commence production by mid 1739. SHR1MATI PATEL RAMABEN 1985. RAMJIBHAI MAVAN1 : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS Price cut in Petroleum crude supplied be pleased to state : by OPEC Countries (a) whether any agreement has been sig 1740. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO : ned very recently between Bajaj Auto Limi SHRI MOHAN BHAI PATEL : ted and Kawasaki Heavy Industry of Japan SHRI DINESH SINGH : for the establishment of a plant for the Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be manufacture of 100 c.c. motor cycle in their pleased to state : technical collaboration; (a) whether Organisation of Petroleum (b) if so, the details thereof; Exporting Countries announced a price cut (c) when the said motor cycle industry in petroleum crude supplied by OPEC coun will start functioning; tries ; (d) the number of motor cycles likely to (b) if so the foreign exchange expected be produced yearly; to be saved by that cut; and (e) the present yearly production of scoo (c) whether the benefit of the above price ters and three wheelers of Bajaj Auto; cut will be passed on to the consumers of (f) whether Bajaj Auto propose to esta Petroleum Products in India ? blish a factory at Aurangabad so as to increase its production; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI (g) if so, the details thereof ? NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a) Yes, Sir, only in respect of sonic crude oils. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM (b) Savings in foreign exchange will be PANY AFEAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM difficult to estimate as it depends upon the MAD KHAN) : (a) and (b) . Bajaj Auto fluctuating do'lar-rupee conversion rate. Ltd. has entered in a foreign collaboration agreement with Kawasaki Heavy Industries (c) There is no such proposal as prices for transfer of technology for manufacture of of Petroleum products in India are not solely 100 cc and 80 cc motorcycles. based on crude oil or product prices in the International Market but are determined (c) and (d) . The firm expects to go into taking into consideration the need to subsi production of motorcycles of Kawasaki design dise some products like Kerosene, demand in early 1986 and plans to produce 40,000 management and generation of resources for motor-cycles in the first year. oil development- 79 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 80 Companies munufacturing Three Wheeler i,b) the names of the companies manu Auto-rickshaws and lhcir production, facturing two-whee!er mopeds and motor cyclcs in the country and their production, 1741. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHER-separately, by each of these companies year- JEE: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY AND wise since 1982 till the end of 1984 and the COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : target for the year 1985 ? (a) the names of the companies manu THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE facturing three wheeler auto-rickshaws and MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM two-wheeler scooters in the country and their PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM production separately, by each of these com MAD KHAN) (a) and (b) . The requisite panies year-wise since 1982 till the end of information is given in the attached 1984 and the target for the year 1985; and statement. Statement (in respect of major manufacturers) (Fig. in *000) Production Target for 51. No. Name of the Company 1982 1983 1984 1985 1 2 3 4 5 6 Three Wheeler Scooters : 1. Bajaj Auto Ltd. 23 27 30 35 2. Automobile Products of India 6 9 10 12 Two Wheeler Scooters : 1. Automobile Products of India 24 15 9 10 2. Bajaj Auto Ltd. 140 169 187 210 3. Scooters India Ltd. 37 26 24 25 4. Maharashtra Scooters Ltd. 32 53 56 65 5. Andhra Pradesh Scooters Ltd. 10 5 10 25 6. Lohia Machines 0.2 11 35 Mopeds : 1. Kinetic Engg. Ltd. 57 132 157 190 2. Majestic Auto 77 n o 95 110 3. Sundram Clayton 53 70 100 104 Motorcycles : , 1. Enfield India Ltd. 29 28 42 50 2. Ideal Jawa 29 33 27 33 3. Bajaj Auto Ltd. (M-50) 9 25 27 30 4. Ind-Suzuki Motorcycles Ltd...... 10 30 5. Escorts Ltd. 58 67 82 95 81 Written Answers CHA1TRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 82 Relief Measures for Persons affected by measures. These include cash ex-gratia Leakage of Gas From Union Carbide payment to the kin of dead anid those injured and provision of foodgrains, edible oils and 1742. SHRI CHITTA MAHATA : milk to the affected. SHRI AJIT KUMAR SAHA : Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state : Delivery/Transmission of Telegrams (a) whether Government have made'a 1743. SHRI MOLL CHAND DAG A : study to know the category of persons who Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS were mostly affetted by the leakage of gas be pleased to state : from the Union Carbide Factory in Bhopal (a) the number of telegrams sent by hand in December last; and by Post separate in the Central Tele (b) if so, the details in this regard; graph Offices in the metropolitan cities during the last three years giving C.T.O. wise/year - (c) if not, the reasons therefor; wise break-up; (d) whether adequate relief measures have (b) the reasons why the telegrams are not been provided to the affected persons; being sent by Post instead of sending them (c) if so, the reasons therefor; and on the telegraph circuits; (f) if not, the details of relief measures (c) whether number of telegrams sent by provided to the affected persons ? post is increasing; and THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS (d) if so, the reasons therefor ? AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE VEERENDRA PATIL) : (a) to (c). The MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS State Government have reported that with a (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) The view to take action for long term rehabilita desired information is enclosed in the atta tion of the affected persons keeping in view ched statement; their present health and employment position, (bl Telegrams are sent by post when a comprehensive survey of the families very heavy delay is anticipated in their trans living in the affected areas has been underta mission on the telegraph circuits due to : ken. The complete findings and the analysis of the data collected during the survey has (i) Power failure, not been received from the State Government so far. (ii) interruption of telegraph channels; (d) to (f). All possible relief measures, (iii) abnormal absenteeism of the opera including medical assistance, have been tive staff. provided to the affccted persons. State Gove (c) No, Sir. rnment have so for incurred an expenditure of over Rs. 8 crores in providing relief (d) Does not arise. Statement Statement showing year-wise, CTO-wise break up of the number of telegrams sent by Post and by hand to local offices and their respective percentages to the number sent on the telegraph circuits in them etropolitan cities Number of telegrams sent by post in Name of 1082 1983 1984 the CTO No. %age No. %age No. %age Bombay 488041 3.52 185049 i 37 14224 0.11 Calcutta 346239 3.20 574563 2.47 493406 2.07 Madras 93801 0.95 233055 2.30 8920 0.09 New Delhi 351804 1.94 470464 2.50 191902 1.08 83 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 84 Name of Number o f telegrams sent by hand to local offices** in the CTO 1982 1983 1984 No. %age No. %age No. %age Bombay 2599872 24.95 2800843 26.30 2756122 26.48 Calcutta 1020945 9.40 1047856 6.34 920700 7.60 Madras 651388 6.63 629880 6.21 862860 8.94 New Delhi 520125 2.08 784111 4.1 244700 1.30 *'* Bulk transfer of telegrams by hand to local delivery offices is done mostly • between 2200 and 0600 hours when delivery of telegrams is not under taken as a rule; whareas transmission of the same on telegraph circuits during this non-delivery period does not confer any advantage. Increase in the Telephone Capacity of Vacancies of Judges and pending eases in Sonepat and Gohana Telephone Allahabad High Court Exchanges in Haryana 1745. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI : Will 1744. SHRI DHARAMPAL SINGHthe Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be MALIK : Will the Minister of COMMUNI pleased to state : CATIONS be pleased to state : (a) whether Government propose to *,a) whether a large number of cases are increase the telephone capacity of Sonepat and pending in Allahabad High Court for the Gohana Telephone Exchanges in Haryana last several years as there are many posts of during the next three years; Judges lying vacant; (b) if so, the details thereof; lb) if so, the number of cases pending (c) the time by which these exchnges since 15 years, 10 years and 5 years; and will be expanded; . (c) the action Government propose to (d) the number of additional lines to be take to clear the cases and filling up the given; and vacant posts of Judges ? (e) the funds allocated for the purpose, if any ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (SHRI H. R. BHARDWAJ) : (a) to (c). MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS As per information furnished by the Registry (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) to of the Allahabad High Court, 2,12,453 (d). Sonepat Exchange is recently expanded cases were pending as on 30.6.84. Out of by 200 lines. At Gohana spare capacity is these, 45,845 cases are more than 5 years old available at present for providing connections. and 5019 cases are more than 10 years old. Further expansion of these exchanges would The pendcncy of cases in the Allahabad High be considered depending un the building up Court and in other High Courts is due to of further demand and availability of equip several complex factors and is not attributable ment. to the existence of vacancies alone. However, the filling up of the vacancies is engaging the (e) Funds for the above expansion will attention of Government- Steps taken to be met from the lump sum grant allocated to reduce pendcncy in High Courts in general the circle. are given in the attached statement. 85 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 86 Statement quick and economical disposal of cases without affecting the Steps Taken to Reduce Pendency cardinal principle that deci in Hiqh Courts sions should be just and fair; The following steps have been taken to (ii) simplification of procedure to reduce pendency in High Courts : reduce and eliminate technica (1) The Code of Civil Procedure was lities and devices for delay so amended in 1976 tc abolish Letters Patent that it operates not as an end Appeals from Judgment of Single Judge of in itself but as a means of the High Court in second appeal (vide achieving justice; and Section 100A). (iii) improvement of standards of all concerned with the admi (2) The Code of Criminal Procedure nistration of justice. based on the recommendations of the Law Commission was enacted in 1973 and amen (b) To revise the Central Acts of gene ded in 1978 and 1980. ral importance so as to simplify (3) The sanctioned strength of the High them and to remove anomalies, Court Judges has been increased from time ambiguities and inequities. to time. (c) To recommend to the Government measures for bringing the statute (4) Apart from the above certain High book up-to-date by repealing obso Courts are taking the following steps for lete laws and enactments or parts ensuring better disposal of cases : thereof which have outlived their (a) Cases involving common questions utility. are being grouped by several High Courts. (7) The recommendations contained in the 79th report of the Law Commission have (b) Matters fixed for hearing by giving been examined. As action on Majority of short returnable date. the recommendations is to be taken by the State Government and High Courts, these (c) Dispensipg with printing of records. have been sent to them alongwith the views (d) Expediting and giving priority to of the Union Government and they have matters under certain Act. been requested to take necessary action. (5) The Government have also addressed (8) The Government have constituted an the Chief Ministers of States and Chief informal Committee of 3 Chief Justices to Justices of High Courts in which there is examine the problem of arrears in High a heavy pendency of civil cases over 5 year’s Courts and suggest remedial measures. old to consider appointment of retired judges under Article 224A of the Constitution. Quota/price fixed for paper supplied (6) The Government have also appointed to various States for printing text Law Commission (10th Law Commission) to books and exercise books keep under review the system of judicial 1746. SHRI SURESH KURUP: Will administration in the country. Among the the Minister of INDUSTRY & COMPANY terms of reference of the Law Commission AFFAIRS be pleased to state; a re : (a) Whether paper mills are expected (a) To keep under review the system of to supply paper to States for printing of judicial administration to ensure text books and exercise books; that it is responsive to the reaso nable demands of the times and in (b) if so, the quota and the rate fixed particular to secure : by Government; (i) elimination of delays, speedy (c) the requirement of each State and clearance of arrears and redu the supply made against the requirement, ction in costs so as to secure State-wise ; and 87 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 88 (d) whether Government have received lopment in Rajasthan has picked up as any complaint from any of the Slate would be evident from the following number Governments that the mills are refusing the of Industrial Licences (ILs) and DGTD supply of paper ? Registrations issued during the last 3 years to the State of Rajasthan :— THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND YEAR Industrial DGTD COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF Licences Regitrations MOHAMMAD KHAN; : (a) to (d). Sub 1982 14 61 ject to the provisions of Paper (Regulation of Production) Order, 1978 and Paper 1983 25 93 (Control) Order, 1979, paper manufactures whose installed capacity for manafacture of 1984 25 78 paper and paper board is above 24,000 tonnes p.a. are required to supply white A total number of 127 Letters of Intent have printing paper to the extent of 20% or 25% also been issued during the last 3 years. of their production of paper and paper board, depending on their capacity for Details of Industrial Licences/Letters of manufacture of writing and printing paper, Intent/DGTD Registrations are published at the ex-factory price of Rs. 6400 per by the India Investment Centre in their metric tonne. monthly “News letter” , copies of which are available in Parliament Library. The Ministry of Education is concerned with the purpose-wise allocation of, white printing paper for educational purposes. The (b) & (c). Setting up Industries in a paper is allotted to the different States/ Slate is primarily the responsibility of that Union Territory Administrations every Siate Government although the Central quarter on the basis of their student popu Government supplements their efforts through lation and the availability of white printing provision of various incentives/concessions paper. As and when complaints of non to industries in backward areas, details of supply are received from allottees, the matter which are contained in the booklet “Incen is taken up with the concerned paper mills tives for Industries in Backward Areas” for stepping up supplies of white printing copies of which are available in the Parlia paper. ment Library. Translation Daily Wage Employees in Postal Department Industrial Development of Rajasthan 1748. SHRI VILAS MUTTEMWAR; 1747. PROF. NIRMALA KUMARlWill the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS SHAKTAWAT: Will the M1MISTER OF be pleased to state : INDUSTRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : (a) whether attention of Government (a) whether the industrial progress in has been drawn to the news item captioned Rajasthan is very slow and the nat ial ‘Delhi ke Dakiya Sangh Mein Asantosh’ (Dis resources in that area have not been fully contentment among postmen in Delhi) utilized; appeared in the ‘Nav Bharat Times’ of 1st December, 1984; (b) whether Union Government propose to pay special attention 10 a ds the develop (b) if so, the details thereof; ment of industries in Raji than; and (c) the reaction of Government there (c) if so, the details thereof ? to; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) the number of daily wage employees MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM in the Postal Department in the country at PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHD. present who are not getting regular wages KHAN): (a) The pace of industrial Deve- and the reasons therefor ? 89 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 90 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) and PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM (b). Yes, Sir. In the news item captioned MAD KHAN) : (a) to (c). As a Govern ‘Delhi Ke Dakiya Sangh Mein Asantosh’ ment policy,foreign brand names are not ordi which appeared in the Navbharat Times of narily allowed for use on the products for 1.12.1984, it was stated that 45 officials of internal sales, although there is no objection South-East Division, Delhi Postal Circle to their use on products to be exported. A have been transferred, 25 Delhi Wages condition to this efTcct is being incorporated employees are not being paid their salary in all approvals for foreign collaborations. for the past five months, beats of Postmen are being transferred resulting in inconveni ence to public members and mail is not Setting up of L.P.G. Bottling Plants delivered in time. Packers in Post Offices By Indian Oil Corporation are utilised as Chowkidars but are not being 1750. PROF. RAM KRISHNA MORE: compensated. The office-bearers of Post Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be man Union of South-East Division have pleased to slate : , started a Dharna with effect from Tuesday, the 27.1 1.1984. (a) whether the Indian Oil Corporation is setting up new L.P.G. botling plants ; and (c) 45 Postal Asstts. working in South East Division of Delhi Postal Circle who tb) if so, their locations and capacity ? had completed the prescribed tenure have been transferred. There has been no THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE adverse impact on the mail and delivery MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI arrangements. The Daily Wage employees NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a) Yes are being paid regularly. Whenever it Sir. becomes necessary to post a test-category Group ‘D’ official on Chawkidar’s duty, he (b) The Indian Oil Corporation proposes is being compensated. to set up twelve new bottling plants as follows: A dharna was started by ihe office be arers of the Union but this was lifted after Location Capacity discussions were held on 7.12.1984. in metric ______tonness p.a. (d) The information is being collected Rajkot 12500 and will be laid on the floor of the House. Hazira 25000 [English] Sawai Madhopur 25000 Use of Foreign Trade Marks Jamshedpur 25000 1749. SHRI D. P. JADEJA : Will the Bhopal 25000 Minister of INDUSTRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : Durgapur 25000 (a) whether in granting foreign collabo Tikrikalan 50000 rations, Government used to stipulate that Balasore no foreign trade marks would be permitted ; 25000 Madanpur 25000 (b'' the reasons for putting such a clause ; and Karnal 25000 (cj the effect of such a clause on the Varanasi 25000 operation of the companies and the economy of the country ? Calcutta 25000 91 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 92 Executives of Cement Corporation of Translation of Central Acts into India Regional Languages 1752. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAH1: 1751. SHRI MOHAMMAD MAHFOOZ Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE ALI KHAN: Will th? Minister of INDUS TRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be be pleased to state: pleased to state: (a) the number of Central Acts so far translated and published in regional language (a) whether experienced executives left and the expenditure incurred thereon; the State owned Cement Corporation of India (CCI) during the last few years; (b) whether the progress made in this regard is considered satisfactory; and (b) if so, how many experienced execu tives left CCI during the last ihree years 'xc) if not, the reasons thereof and the (year-wise) and the reasons therefor : measures being taken to improve the work ing of the schems ? (c) to what extent the functioning of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE CCI has suffered as a result therefor; and MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE {SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJJ: (a) A state (d) the remedial steps taken by Govern ment setting out the number of Central ment ? Acts so far translated and published in regional languages is attached. The expendi THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ture incurred on translation of the Central MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM Acts into regional languages during the PANY AFFAIRS vSHRI ARIF MOHAM priod 1974-75 to 1984-85 is of the order of MAD KHAN): (a) to (d). During the Rs. 9,92,624.00. years 1982, 1983 and 1984, 147 executives had resigned from Cement Corporation of (b) No, Sir, India Ltd, and 408 new executives have joined as per year-wise details given i.e.i Translation of Central Acts into below :— regional languages is done by the State agencies. The progress, therefore, depends Year Left Joined upon the interest which the State Govern ments evince in the matter. The State 1982 48 85 Governments are being constantly exhorted to expedite the translation of various Central 1983 41 236 Acts into regional languages. At the Law 1984 50 87 Ministers Conference in 1982, the subject was included as one of the items for dis Functioning of the Corporation has how cussion, and the then Law Minister request ever, not suffered on this account. The ed the State Law Ministers to take steps reasons for leaving the Corporation have towards making progress in regard to the been stated to be mainly ‘personal’. With translation and printing of various Central substantial capacity coming up in Cement Acts in the regional languages by taking Industry, both in private and Public Sectors, advantage of the financial assistance extend such turn-over of executives is unavoidable. ed by the Centre. Statement S. No. Language. No. of Central No. of Central Acts Translated. Acts Printed 1. Assames 34 2. Bengali 66 14 3. Guirati 513 99 93 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 94 4. Kannada 104 54 5. Malayalam 185 141 6. Marathi 207 89 7. Oriya 193 11 8. Punjabi 175 32 9. Tamil 92 20 10. Telugu 63 4 11. Urdu 181 __ [Traslation] (c) the action being taken by Govern ment in the matter to avoid the complaints Opening of Foreign Post Office at of corrupt practices in army recruitment ? Surat City, Gujarat 1753. SHRI NARSINH MAKWANA: THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS P.V. NARASIMHA RAO) : (a) Yest Sir. be pleased to state: (b) Danapur police have arrested two (a) the criteria laid down for opening a persons in connection with this case. foreign post office; (c) Of th*3 two person arrested, one is a (b) whether Surat city fulfils this criteria; and Government servant. He has been placed under suspension and disciplinary action has tc) the new staff strength required for also been initiated against him. The other this foreign post office and the exependiture person is a civilian. The Danapur police is involved thereon ? investigating the case. To avoid corruption in Army Recruiting Offices, the following THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE action is being taken MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATlONS(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) Concurrence (i) Staff posted in recruiting offices are of Ministry of Finance is necessary for open rotated after every 2 years to ensure ing a Foreign Post Office and the criteria for that no vested interest is created. opening a Foreign Post Office is the volume of traffic justifying the opening of a Collector’s (ii) It is also insured that the same offi Office. The average collection of customs cer is not posted again in the re duty as a whole per year per Collector should cruiting office. be more than Rs. 250/ crores. (iii) Selection of candidates is done by a (b) No, Sir. selection board strictly in the order of merit. (c) Does not arise in view of the above. (iv) Instructions have been issued stream Corrupt Practices in Army Recruitment lining the recruitment procedure, at Danapur, Patna scrutiny of certificates and medical examinations. 1754. SHRI ABDUL HANNAN ANSARI : Will the Mintster of DEFENCE (v) Complaints received are promptly be pleased to state : investigated and exemplary punish ment is awarded to those who are (a) whether his Ministry has received found guilty. complaints about the demand of bribe in recruitment of Jawans at Danapur during 1st January, 1983 to 13th March, 1985; Production and Demand of Crude Oil (b) whether the Danapur police arrested 1755. SHRI KR1SHAN PRATAP SINGH: some persons in February, 1985 on the charge Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be plea of taking bribe; and sed to state : 95 Writtert Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 96 (a) The quantum of crude oil produced The MINISTER OF STATE OF THE during the past three years, year-wise ; MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI (b) the demand of oil during these NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a) and years ; and * (b). Kerosene oil allocations made to the States are meant essentially for domestic light (c) the time by which self-sufficiency in ing and domestic fuel. In pursuance of Kerala oil is likely to be achieved ? Government’s request an ad-hoc allocation of 1,920 tonnes has been made for the State, THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE in addition to the normal allocation of MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI 13,080 tonnes. All the States have been NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a) The advised to permit non-domestic use of kero production of crude oil during the last three sene only in cases where no other fuel can be years has been as follows :- used on technological grounds. The out board engines for fishing crafts in Kerala are (Million Tonnes) reportedly designed to run on petrol and use Year Crude Production of kerosene is likely to damage the engines in 1981-82 16.19 the long run. It is not considered desirable to use kerosene which has to be imported 1982-83 21.06 when petrol, which is indigenously available, can be used for these engines. 1983-84 26.02 (by The requirement of crude oil during Setting up of A Basic Drugs Unit in last three years has been as follows : - Orissa (Million Tonnes) 1757. SHRI RADHAKANTA DIGAJ : Year Requirement of Crude Oil Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND 1981-82 35.84 FERTILIZERS be pleased to state : 1982-83 37.89 fa) whether Government have a proposal 1983-84 39.55 to set up a basic drugs unit in Orissa; (c) Self-sufficiency in crude oil has (b) if so, the time by which that pro been achieved to the extent of 69% at pre posal is going to be implemented; and sent. Exploration for oil being probabilistic in nature, it would not be possible to indi (c) the steps taken in this regard ? cate with any certitude, the time by which self-sufficiency in oil will be achieved. THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY AND [English] COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL) : (a) to (c). Government have, at Kerosene Quota For Kerala present, no proposal to set up a basic drugs 1756. DR. K.G. ADIYODI : Will the unit in Orissa. However, Indian Drugs and Minister of PETROLEUM be pleased to Pharmaceuticals Limited have already set up state : a formulation unit in Orissa in collaboration with the State Industrial Development Cor (a) whether Government are aware that poration at a cost of Rs. 136.52 lakhs. the quota of kerosene for Kerala is for light and cooking and kerosene is not avail able in the open market; and Production of Fertilizers by Hindustan Fertilizer Corporation (b) if so, the reasons why Government are not allotting additional quota of Kero 1758. SHRI SOMNATH RATH : Will sene requested for by the Government of the Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTI Kerala for the use of fishermen who are LIZERS be pleased to state : using Emaha Engine fitted country boats, driven by kerosene, for fishing supplied under (a) the number of fertilizer plants set up the 20 point programme ? by the Hindustan Fertilizer Corporation; 97 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 98 (b) the total quantity of fertilizers pro (c) if not, the reasons therefor ? duced by the fertilizer plants managed by the HFC in 1984-85; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (c) whether the target set by HFC to (SHRI RAM N1WAS MIRDHA) : (a) Yes, produce fertilizers has been achieved in that Sir. year; and (b) It is planned to provide STD faci lity to Palanpur by linking it with Ahmeda (d) if not, the reasons therefor ? bad Trunk Automatic Exchange during 7th Plan. THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS & FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY AND (c) Does not arise. COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHR1 VEFRENRA PATIL; : (a) Hindustan Fertilizer Corpora [Translation] tion Ltd. is having four operating units viz. Namrup I & II (Assam), Barauni (Bihar), Modernisation of HMT Factory at Ajmer Durgapur(West Bengal) and two projects 1760. SHRI VISHNU MODI : Will the under implementation viz. Haldia (West Minister of INDUSTRY AND COMPANY Bengal) and Namrup Hi (Assam). AFFAIRS be pleased to state : (b) Targets and production of fertilizers fa) whether any proposal for moderni from the operating units of HFCL during sation of H.M.T. Factory at Ajmer is under 1984-85 were as under :- consideration of Government; Name of Unit Production of Nitrogenous (b) if so, the outlines thereof; fertilizers during J984-85 (figures in *000 MT) (c) when do Government propose to start this work; and Target Actual Production1 Namrup 1 31 21.3 (d) if not, the reasons therefor ? Namrup 11 92 66.7 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Durgapur 90 58.5 MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY & COMPANY Barauni 80 36.1 AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN) : (a) to ivd). The replacement and Total 293 183.0 modernisation programme of the Ajmer unit of HMT is already under implementation. * Actual production has been taken upto 23.3.85 and estimated production from [English] 23.3.85 to 31.3.85. Allotment of Agencies of Petrol Pump, LPG (c) and (d). Conseqent upon the equip and Kerosene in Bihar ment problems and power problems including 1761. SHRI YOGESHWAR PRASAD : power failures/voltage dips/power restrictions, Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be the targets fixed for the Units of HFC for pleased to state : 1984-85 could not be achieved. (a) the detailed procedure for allotment Linking of Balanpur to Gandhi Nagar, of agcncics of Petrol Pump, LPG and Kero Ahmedabad and Delhi by S.T.D. sene to the people belonging to Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes; 1759. SHRT B.K. GADHAVl : Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased (b) the details of people belonging to to state : (a) whether there is any proposal Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes who in link Pal an pur with Gandhi Nagar, have been allotcd such dealership in Bihar; Ahmedabad and Delhi by STD; and (b) if so, time by which this will be (c) the details of such agencies to be done; and allotted to people belonging to Scheduled 99 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 100 Castes and Scheduled Tribes during the next the appropriate Oil Selection Board. The five years in Bihar ? oil company concerned then issues a letter THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE of Intent in accordance with the panel MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI recommended by the Oil Selection Board. NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a) Twenty five per cent dealerships for diesel/ (b) The requisite information is given in petrol retail outlets, LPG and SKO/LDO in Statement I, attached each years marketing plan of the oil industry are reserved for members of the Scheduled (c) The marketing plans of the oil in Castes and Scheduled Tribes. Advertise dustry are prepared on a year-to-year basis. ments in newspapers are issued by the oil The details of dealerships reserved for mem-' company concerned inviting applications from bers of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled persons in respect of locations reserved for Tribes under rhe marketing plans upto 1984 the above category of persons. Selection 85 are given in Statement II, attached. The from amongst eligible candidates is done by marketing plan for 1985-86 is being finalised. Statement-I S.No. Location Name o f the Person Category Retail Outlet 1. Rasulpur Shri Budhu Munda ST 2. Manjhi Shri Indrajeet Ram SC 3. Itkimore Shri Diwakar Minz ST 4. Torpa Shri Gladwin Kachhap ST 5. Lakho Shri Arun Kumar Paswai SC 6. Kudra Shri Ganga Bishnu Ram SC 7. Bihar Shariff Shri Premchand Kumar SC 8. Garkha Shri Ramji Chowdhry SC 9. Kudru/Ashoknagar Shri Vijay Kumar Khaka ST 10. Bhagwanpur Shri Ashok Kumar Bhagat SC 11. Gatua Chowk Shri Krishna Murari SC 12. Nagri Shri Bernat Minz ST 13. Namkum Shri Hemant Kachhap ST 14. Mahendia Shri Balkishun Ram SC 15. Khinzar Shri Ram Baliram SC 16. Ander (Siwan) Shri Shyamlal Ram SC 17. Barbigha Shri Jagdish Ram ST 18. Musabanj Shri Sunil Kumar Murmu ST 19. Jinkpari Shri Devendra Nath Champia ST SKO/LDO 1, Laharia Sarai Shri Manik Chandlal SC 2. Chaibasa Shri Chandra Bhusan Tamsoy ST 5. Dalsingh Sarai Shri Ram Sawanth Pas wan SC 4. Nawadah Shri Ram Naresh Kumar SC 5, Garkha Shri Uneshwar Chowdhary SC 6. Korha Shri Satya Narain Mahto SC 101 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 102 LPG 1. Dumka Shri Rajendra Kumar Bhagat ST 2. Patna Shri Sohrai Ram SC 3. Ranchi Shri I. Kachap ST 4. Gaya Shri Shaligram Ram SC 5. Bokaro Shri V, Kishore SC 6. Dhanbad Shri Vijoy Kumar Chowdhry SC 7. Chas Shri Laxmi Das sc 8. Nawada Shri Sukhdev Mahtha sc 9. Jamshedpur Shri Surendra Deogam ST Stfttement-11 LPG 1. Saraikella S.No. Location Category ST 2. Jamshedpur SC Retail Outlet 3. Baghha SC 1. Govindpur SC 4. Madhupur ST 2. Sarai SC 5. Ghatsila ST 3. Simaria SC 6. Mokameh SC 4. Khatopur ST 5. Dhaniawan SC Employment Potential For Bombay High 6. Fatwah SC 1762. SHRI D.B. PA T iL : Will the 7. Majorganj SC Minister of PETROLEUM be pleased to 8. Madhupur ST state : 9. Dhuraiya SC (a) the emloyment potential created 10. Musrigharari Chowk SC because of oil being struck in Bombay High; 11. Rajaun SC (b) whether the employment potential 12. Singhai SC created is not being made available in a satis 13. Sirdala SC factory manner to Maharashtrians in general and local people in particular; and 14. Ziradi ST (c) if so, the reasons therefor ? 15. Hunterganj SC 16. Dakha SC THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 17. Chandan Kyari SC MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRE NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a) to (c). 18. Rajganj ST As on 1st March, 1985 the total number of 19. Wajirganj SC employees in the Bombay Offshore Project of 20. Paribarwa SC Oil & Natural Gas Commission was 5406 21. Jagapatti SC including 2370 belonging to class-111 and class-IV. 22. Pun Pun SC SKO/LDO Direct recruitment of persons to class-III and IV is made from the persons sponsored 1. Torpa SC by the local employment exchanges. 2. Sahar SC 3. Chandankyari SC Leakage of Amonia Gas in the atmosphere 4. Simaria SC in Bombay 5. Bero ST 1763. SHRI DATTA SAM ANT : Will 6. Fipra ST the Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTI 7. Mukdumpur ST LIZERS be pleased to state : 103 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 104 (a) whether it is a fact that there was concentration is high. Round the clock sur leakage of ammonia gas in the atmosphere veillance by pollution control engineers has continuously from 4ih March, 1985 in the been organised. Action has been initialed to city of Bombay from the Rashtriya Chemi set up “environmental circles” in all the cals and Fertilizers Limited at Chembur; plants to create awareness and consci ousness amont, workers and officers for (b) if so, the percentage of ammonia in more effective control of ammonia in effluents the atmosphere during the period; and emissions. On the advice of MPCB, RCF has taken additional measures which include (c) whether the Fertilizer Corporation of monitoring of ambient air quality at 4 loca India Plant at Chembur was shut down for tions outside the plant, keeping record of the sometime to avoid leakage; and neutralisations of effluents, etc. On the advice (d) the cause of ammonia leakage and of the Control Board for the Prevention and the measures Government have taken to pre Control of Water Pollution, RCF has also vent the same? agreed to establish three static ambient moni toring stations near the RCF boundaries with automatic alarm system. THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS iSHRI Cases pending for Sanctioning of Telephone VEERENDRA PATILj : (a) Complains of Exchanges by P.T.C.C. in Himachal Pradesh ammonia smell were made by citizens in various parts of Bombay city on March 3, 5, 1764. PROF. NARAIN CHAND 10, 12 and were highlighted by the press. The PARASHAR : Will the Minister of COMMU officials of Bombay Municipal Corporation NICATIONS be pleased to stale ; (BEC) and Maharashtra Pollution Control Board (MPCB) tried to locate the source of (a) whether any cases for clearance by the ammonia smell in the atmosphere on the Pow’er and Telecommunication Co-ordination various days. However, it was found difficult Committee in respect of sanction of Tele to pin-point the exact source. The ammonia phone Exchanges are pending and have not smell on 12th March, 1985 near Rashtriya been cleared so far during 1984-85; Chemicals and Fertilizers (RCF) in Chembur has been atrributed to emissions from RCF. (b) if so, the details of all such cases, This was due to inadequate neutralisation of circle-wise and the date w.e.f. which each the effluents of the new urea plant for a short period. one of them is pending with the committee; (c) the steps taken by the committee for (b) In the air sample collected by BMC early clearance of such cases; and at 11 pm on 12 3.85, the Chembur air was found to have 20 micrograms ammonia per cubic metre i. e. 0.026 PPM-which is quite (d) the data by which all such cases low. including the one for SAX at Namhol in Bilaspur District of Himachal Pradesh would (c) The Maharashtra Pollution Control be cleared and the reasons for delay? Board felt that some holes in the vent sta:k of the old urea plant could be a source of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ammonia emission and, therefore, advised MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS RCF on 14th March, 1985 to shut down its (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) No, old urea plant and repair the vent stack. As Sir, advised, RCF shut down this plant on ih< 14th March, repaired thj vent stack and (b) Question does not arise. restarted the plant on 16th March with the permission of MPCB. (c) Question docs not arise. (d) RCF has stepped up arrangement for (d) On date there is no case pending ^nhoring ammonia concentration in the clcarancc including the one for an SAX at efflucn*s *vom various plants, and to Namhol in Bilaspur District of Himachal neutraliss them at source (plant; itself if the Pradesh. Written Answers CHAJTRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 10# Upgradation of B.P.Os./E.D.S,Os. to the and whether they have since been upgraded; status of departmental sub-offices in and Himachal Pradesh (d,i if not, the likely date for their 1765. PROF. NARAIN CHAND upgradation and the reasons for delay? PARASHAR : Will the Minister of COMMU NICATIONS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE. (a) whether Government of Himachal MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Pradesh have offered to pay the non-refunda (SHRI RAM N1WAS MIRDHA) : (a) Yes, Sir. ble contribution in respect of certain Branch Post Offices/Extra Departmental Sub-offices upon their upgradation to the status of (b) Details of the cases district-wise Departmental Sub-offices during the year showing amount of NRC is furnished in Statement attached. 1984-85. (b) if so, the details of the cases, District (c) and id). All the cases as shown in wise, alongwith the amount in cach cases; Statement attached stand approved for up gradation but not actually upgraded due to (c) the action taken by the Post and economy orders in force and will be taken Telegraph authorities to upgrade these offices up for upgradation after the ban is lifted. Statement District-wise details of the offices in which Government o f Himachal Pradesh offered to pay NRC during 1984-85 with amount o f NRC Name of Extra departmental Name of the Amount of NRC in branch office 'sub-office. District rupees 1. Behai . Bilaspur 16,743.60 2. Kandraur Bilaspur 2,855.72 3. Puhowal Una 7,232.00 4, Parol Hamirpur 17,592.72 5. Majherna Kangra 9,676.80 6. Rey Kangra 10,876.32 7. Paraur Kangra 1,706.64 8. Pangana Mandi 13,009.32 9. Janjheli Mandi 18,723.60 10. Baghi Shimla 14,975.96 11. Jangla Shimla 16,960.66 12. Arsu . Knllu 16,497.64 Rent and Guarantee terms for upgradation wise during 1983-84, and 1984-85, alongwith of EDBOs/EDSOs the amount in each case; 1766. PROF. NARAIN CHAND (b) the names of such offices for which PARASHAR : Will the Minister of COMMU the State Government accepted the Rent and NICATIONS be pleased to state : Guarantee terms and communicated the (a1) the details of Extra Departmental acceptance to Director, Postal Services; Branch Office/Extra Departmental Sub (c) whether the cases for the remaining offices in rcspect of the upgradation of EDBOs/EDSOs have been followed up with which the Director of Postal Services, Himachal Pradesh Government since than; Himachal Pradesh, requested the Government and of Himachal Pradesh to pay the rent and guarantee aspcr loss on upgradation,Dis trict- (d) if so, the rctulus thereof ? 107 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 108 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE and where acceptance communication showing MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS'SHRI amount of NRC is furnished in the attached RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) and (b).Dist Statement. rict-wise names of Extra Departmental Branch Post Offices/Sub-Offices for which DPS (c) and (d). Yes, Sir. State Government Himachal Pradesh referred cases to State has refused to pay NRC in respect of 56 Government Himachal Pradesh to pay NRC offices. for upgradation during 1983-84, and 1984-85 Statement Name of the Name of the Amount of Whether State Govt, Dist. EDBO/EDSO NRC agreed to Pay NRC Champa 1. Bhallai 11,058.24 State Govt, agreed Hamirpur 1. Kashmir 20,159.40 to Pay NRC 2. Awahdevi 15,380.04 3. Harsaur 30,312.72 4. Sahori 11,835.72 5. Chahutra 13,386.00 6. Didwin 12,934.80 7. Bamblow 18,539.16 8. Parol 17,592.72 -do- 9. Patta 7,878.24 10. Basaral 13,216.48 11. Tal 15,001.56 12. Bheri 13,522.32 13. Sadhial 6,560.52 14. Harita 15,006.72 15. Dhaned 18,773.48 Una 1. Dhundla 13,993.08 2. Kungret 15.716.80 3. Mandli 8,892.32 4. Samauli 15,029.28 5. Bhadsali 5,967.80 6. Palkwah 11,233.44 7. Sunkali 13,834.92 8. Marwari 11,785.92 9. Puhowal 7,232 00 — do— Bilaspur 1. Bahai 16,743.60 2. Sunharnira 17,105.68 3. Amarpur 18,324.36 — d o — 4. Nalti 18,799.44 5. Raghunathpur 7,184.40 6. Jejwin 12,452.40 7, Bcri-Rai Zadan 8,854.56 109 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 8. Taliana 14,623.44 State Govt, agreed 9. Kandraur 2,855.72 to pay NRC. 10. Chharol 12,699.60 11. Bassi Kahloor 17,321.52 Shimla 1. Baghi 14,975.96 — d o — 2. Jangla 16,960.66 — do— 3. Mandholi 19,347.76 —do— 4. Ghanahatt 15,226.72 5. Cheog 21,757.72 6. Marog 20,746.48 7. Sandhoo 10,414.24 8. Shillaroo 17,717.68 9. Deorikhaneti 23,623.12 10. Peha Balsan 23,216.80 11. Chharla 15,632.68 12. Rohni 18,048.24 13. Kafri 22,750.12 14. Munda 21,434.36 15. Bharari 17,662,00 16. Gumma 18,720.40 17. Jubbar Hatti 23,373.65 18. Babli 18,463.24 19. Jaura 19,163.32 20. Sharamhal Camp 16,161 04 21. Kowar 2,824.16 22. Mandol 19,929.28 23. Balog 30,089.68 24. Abarhal 2,956.96 25. Dharampur Medhar 1,959.52 26. Sarog 21,307.72 27 Summerkot 21,220.12 28. Jarol 18,300.04 29. Deloth 21,473.80 30. Dclothi 19,110.04 31. Taklech 22,940.72 32. Sarain 28,019.41 33. Siharoih 22,957.43 34. Charoli 26,159.08 Kangra 1. Rey 10,876.32 State Govt, agreed to 2. Balakruppy 6,108.60 pay NRC 3. Dramna 20,965.20 4. Katlu 17,052.12 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 WrittenW Answers 112 5. Upper Lamba Gram 7,501.68 State Govt, agreed to 6. Kosri 16,194.36 pay NRC. 7. Sagoor 15,383.40 8. Dagoli 14,114.88 9. Majherna 9,476.80 10. Paraur 1.706,64 — do— 11. Rakkar 11,272.80 12. Bari 14,625.00 13. Ghatti Btfwan 15,372,96 14. Upperli Kothi 14,547.24 15. Sunhara 13,378.00 16. Niar BS 13,343.28 17. Bagli 12,809.28 18. Kiloha 12,161.16 19. Bharoli Kunthiara 14,610.48 20. Nandpur Bhatoli 17,350.92 21. Kathog 13,098.24 22. Guler 8,679.00 23. Kherian 15,390.12 24. Munar 6,273.48 25. Kangra Town 14,490.96 26. Majhin 13,834.20 27. Naleti 15,185.28 Mandi 1. Pandol 21,659.04 2. Bali Cbowki 12,746.16 — do— 3. Pagana 13,009.32 — do — 4. Mahadev 15,942.60 5. Gopalpur 13,337.68 6. Darang 14,068.40 7. Gaggal 12,837.48 8. Makrori 11,217.09 9. Jangheli 18,723.60 — do— 10. Ootpur 10,995.24 11. Thona 17,008.80 12. Bhararoo 12,236.32 Kul lu 1. Jaree 15,262.92 2. Bhang 12,021.84 3. Gara Goshain 15,169.20 4. Jagat Sukh 12,545.25 5. Goshani 17.850.00 6. Arsu 16,497.64 Sirmaur 1. Haripur 19,297.48 2. Charana 13,070.80 113 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 114 Licensed and Installed capacity of THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS Distilleries AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI 1767. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE VEERENDRA PATIL) : According to the PATIL : Will the Minister of CHEMICALS information received from the Stale Govern- AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state the ments and Union Territory Administrations licensed and installed capacity of distilleries the positions in this regard is indicated in during 1983-84 and 1984-85 (distillery-wise)? the attached statement. Statement Position o f distillation capacity as on January, 1984 and January, 1985 1. Andhra Pradesh (in lakh litres) Distillation Capacity January, 1984 January,1985 1. Govt. Power Alcohol Factory, Bodhan 117.50 137.700 2. Govt. Distillery, Chagalla 58.75 64,260 3. Govt. Distillery, Kamareddy 28.20 28.775 4. Anakapalli Coop. Sugar, Thummpala 7.75 8.415 5. K.C.P. Limited, Vuyyury 77.55 84.15 6. Deccan Sugars & Abkari Co. Ltd., Samalkot 25.25 26.775 7. Sri Sarnaraya Sugar Ltd. Chellury 42.30 44.37 8. Andhra Sugar Ltd., Tanaku 42.30 44.37 9. Kirlampudi Sugar Ltd.. Tanaku 28,20 29.035 10. Sreenivasa Distilleries (P) Ltd. Chittor 42.30 44.37 11. Liquors India (P) Ltd., Hyderabad 40.89 50.40 12. Hindustan Polymers, Vizag 103.40 107.10 13. Indira Distillery, Tanaku 42.30 44.37 14. Hafrumanthkalivaraprasod Babu Chemicals (P) 42.30 44.37 . Ltd., Krishna 15. O. S. Distilleries, Renigunta, Chittor 24.67 34.425 TOTAL 724.26 791.685 2, Assam 16. Assam Cooperative Sugar Mills Ltd. 16.00 16.00 TOTAL 16.00 16.00 3. Bihar 17. Lauriya Distillery 90.00 90.00 18. Mirganj Distillery 75.00 75.00 19. Marhowrah Distillery 27.00 27.00 20. Macdowell Distillery 48.00 48.00 21. Ranchi Distillery 20.00 20.00 22. Nankatiganj Distillery 8.10 68.10 23. Sultanganj Distillery 24.00 24.00 24. Manpur Distillery 10.00 10>QG 25. Paohrukhi Distillery 40 00 40-00 TOTAL 402.10 402.10 115 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 116 . Gujarat 26. Yeast Alcohol Enzymes Ltd., Palitana 150.00 — 27. Gujchem Distillery, Valsad 190.00 190.00 28. Bileswar Khand Udyog Khedat Sahakari 54.00 54.09 Mandi Ltd., Kodiner * 29. Alembic Chemical Works, Baroda 33.00 33.00 30. Amit alcohol & Carbon Dioxide, Valsad 60.00 60.00 31. Cellulose Products of India, Ankleshwar 100.00 100,00 32. Chalthan Vibhag Khand Udyog Sahakari Mandi, 81 00 81.00 Chalthan TOTAL 668.00 518.00 5. Goa, Daman & Diu 33. Jupitor Distillery 9.90 9.90 34. Royal Distillery, Daman 9.90 9.90 35. Daman Distillery, Daman 0.66 0.66 36. Govt. Distillery, Daman 0.66 0.66 37. Kalpana Distillery, Diu 2.20 2.20 38. Govt. Distillery, Diu 0.33 0.33 39. McDowell & Co. Ltd., Goa 4.40 4.40 40. Bharath (Goa) Fruit Dist., Goa 0.22 0.22 TOTAL 20.27 28.27 6. Haryana 41. Haryana Distillery, Yamuna Nagar 67.50 67.50 42. Panipat Co-op. Distillery, Panipat 45.00 45.00 43. Associated Distillery, Hissar — 75.00 TOTAL 112.50 187.50 7. Himachal Pradesh 44. Ranger Breweries, UNA, Mehatpur 11.00 11.00 TOTAL 11.00 11*00 8. Kerala 45. Cooperarive Sugar Ltd., Paighat 27.00 27.00 46. Travancore Sugars & Chemicals, Thiruvalla 13.20 *3-20 47. McDowell & Co. Ltd., Sherlhalai 21,90 21.90 48. Poleone Distillery, Chalakudy 16.42 16.42 TOTAL 78.52 78.52 117 Written Answers CHAURA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 118 >. Karnataka 49. Mysore Sugar Co. Ltd., Mandya 131,40 131.40 50. Parapassar Distillery, Bellary 109.50 109.50 51. Ugar Sugar Works Ltd., Belgaura 132.24 132.24 52. H.S S.K.N. Sankeshwar, Belgaura 197.10 197.10 53. Indian Brewery & Distillery Ltd. Bidar 65.70 65.70 54. Ravindra & Co. (P) Ltd., Bihar 16.42 16.42 55. Gauri Industries, Kolar 32.05 32.05 56. W'anivilas Coop. Sugar Fectory, Chitradurga 66.43 66.43 57. Khoday Distilleries Ltd., Bangalore 73.00 73.00 58. Gemini Distilleries, Bangalore 47.45 47.45 59. Kap Chem Ltd., Mysore 100.00 100.00 60. Pandavapura SSK Ltd., Mandya 109.50 109.50 61. Malaprabha Coop. Sugar Factory, Belgaum 98.55 98.55 62. Distilleries Co. P. Ltd., Shimoga 135.00 135.00 63. Somlya Organic Chemical Ltd., Bijapur 81.00 81.00 TOTAL 1396.14 1396.14 10. Punjab 64. Jagatjit Industries, Hamira 103.00 103.00 65. Khasa Distillery Co. Khasa 100.00 100.00 66. Patiala Distillers & Manufacturers Main (Patiala) 40.00 40.00 67 Punjab Khand Udyog, Gurdaspur 60.00 60.00 TOTAL 303.00 303.00 11. Nagaland 68. Nagaland Distillery, Dimapur 13.50 13.50 TOTAL 13.50 13.50 12. Orissa 69. Jeypore Sugar Co. (Rayagoda Distillery) 7.20 7.20 70. Aska Distillery 30.00 30.00 71. Suidihi Distillery 16.00 19.50 72. Bishandayal Distiller, Jharsuguda 5.00 5.00 TOTAL 60.20 119 Written Answers APUlL 2, 1985 Written Answers 120 13. Maharashtra 73. Welchandnagar Industries, Pune 66,00 60.00 74. Kolhapur Sugar Mills, Kohlapur 135.00 75.00 75. Brihan Maharashtra Sugar Syndicate 68.20 54,55 76. Tilaknagar distillery 60.00 48.60 77. Shetkari S.S.K. Ltd. 135.00 135.00 78. Somaiya Organo Ltd. 120.00 100.00 79. Polycheme Ltd. 90,90 90,90 80. Pravari S.S.K. Ltd. 180.00 90.01 81. Rahuri S.S.K. Ltd. 90.00 90.00 82. United Coop. Dist. 45.00 45.00 83. Krishna S.S.K. Ltd. 120.00 128.00 84. Chitali Distillery 150.00 150.00 85. Panchganga S.S.K. 90.00 135.00 86. Maharashtra Dist. 27.00 27.00 87. Satpuda Tari Pasisar 45.00 135.00 88. Walwa S.S.K. Ltd. * 225.00 135,00 89. Niphad S.S.K. 135.00 135.00 90. Kosang Coop. Distillery 72.00 68.00 91. Nira Valley 75.00 75.00 92. Terna S.S.K. Ltd. 81.00 81.00 93. Datta S.S.K. Ltd. 90.00 90.00 94. Dahisar Distillery 18.00 17.60 95, Vasant S.S.K. Ltd, 90.00 90.00 96. Girna S.S.K. Ltd. 45.00 45.00 97, Siddeshwar S.S.K. Ltd. 90.00 90.00 98. Sangamner Bhog ■— 90.00 99. Yeshwant S.S.K. — 90.00 100. Sanjivani S.S.K. — 120.00 101. Jamner Sugarcane — 7.90 TOTAL 2343.10 2498.55 14. Pondicherry 102. Pondicherry Distillers Ltd. 18.00 20.00 TOTAL 18.00 20.00 121 Written Answers CHA1TRA 12, 1907 ^SAKA) Written Answers 122 15. Madhya Pradesh 103. Ratlam Alcohol Plant 45.00 45.00 104. Chattisgarh Distillery 43 00 43.00 105. Seoni 36.00 36.50 106. Barwaha „ 23.00 23.72 107. Dhar „ 36.00 33.00 108. Gwalior Dist. 20.00 20.00 109. Uijain „ 11.00 11.50 110. Bhopal „ 20.00 20.00 111. Nowgong „ 7.50 7.50 TOTAL 241.50 240.22 16* Rajasthan 112. Mewar Distilleries & Chem. Work Bhupalsagar 30.00 30.00 113. Distillery Ganganagar 44.00 44.00 114. Distillery Atry 11.00 11.00 115. Udaipur Distillery, Udaipur 18.00 18.00 TOTAL 103,00 103.00 17. Tamil Nadu 116. Trichy Distilleries & Chemical 136.00 . 136.00 117. Arvind Distillery 132.00 132.00 118. Cimbatore Alcohol & Chemical 163.30 163.30 119. Southern Agri Furane Industries 13.50 13.50 120. E.T.D. Parry 76.00 76.00 121. Varion Chemical & Distilleries 25.50 106.50 122. Sakthi Sugars Ltd. 180.00 180.00 123. Chemplast 110-00 148,50 TOTAL 836.30 955.80 IS. West Bengal * 124. Carew & Co, 30.00 30.00 125. Shaw Wallace & Co. 24.00 24.00 126. Eastern Distilleries 19.50 19.50 127. Prakash Distil. 19.50 19,50 128. Serampore Distl. 18.00 18.00 TOTAL 111.00 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 124 19. Uttar Pradesh Ajudhia Distillery 180.00 180.00 0. Daurala 255.00 450.00 . Hargaon 115.30 115.30 Rampur „ 260.00 260.00 Shamli » 54.60 54.60 Captainganj „ 300.00 300.00 Bahari >, 270.00 270.00 Barari ■> 102.28 102.28 M M B Lucknow 38.97 38.97 Cooperative Distl. 18.81 18.81 39. Central Distl. 109.00 109.00 Gola Distl. 255.00 250.00 Pilkhani Distl. 109.20 109.20 2. Seohara Distl. 120.12 120.12 3. Simbhouli Dist. 136.36 136.36 . Narang »» 73.71 73.71 5. Mansoorpur „ 81.90 81.90 >. Modi )i 45.50 45.50 . Unnao « 47.75 47.75 Mohannagar „ 42.20 42.80 Rosa >» 25.46 45.46 Doon Valley „ 20.46 20.46 . Bazpur Distl. 150.00 150.00 P.V.K. Distl. 110,00 110.00 Vam Organics * 159.00 159.00 Majhola Organics 90.00 90.00 TOTAL 3190.42 3380.42 Losses in Public Sector Industries THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE under the Ministry MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM 1768. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA :MAD KHAN) : (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY AND Some of the Public Sector Undertakings COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : under the administrative control of the Ministry of Industry and Company Affairs (a) whether Public Sector Undertakings have been incurring losses. A statement under his Ministry are incurring losses; showing losses incurred by these undertakings (b) if so, the names of such units and during the years 1982-83; 1983-84 and 1984-85 the losses incurred by each unit during the (provisional upto December, 1984), is years 1982-83, 1983-84 and 1984-85; attached. (c) whether Government have set up (c) The Planning Commission set up a any expert committee to know the causes of Committee to go into the working of some these losses; if so, their findings; and of the public sector undertakings under the Department of Heavy Industry. The Commit- (d) the steps being taken to minimise tiee’s findings broadly covered suggestions the losses and make these units profitable ? for grant of financial relief to public sector 125 Written Answers CHAITRA (2, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 126 undertakings, re-structuring of some of the (c) Low/uneven order book position. units and measures for strengthening the internal working of the units. (d) Paucity of working capital. (e) Low capacity utilisation due to old/ So far as the undertakings under the obsolete plant and machinery, Department of Industrial Development are concerned, the Government had set up an (f) Continuing old liabilities of taken Expert Committee in 1983 to study the ways over sick units. and means of making Tannery and Footwear Various steps taken to minimise these losses Corporation of India Ltd. (TAFCO) econo and to improve the performance of these mically viable and the Expert Committee had undertakings include modernisation and suggested diversification of the product mix replacement of old plant and machinery and also suggested that TAFCO should set gradually on a regular and planned basis, up a modern chrome leather plant with a installation of DG sets to overcome power minimum capacity of 10 TPD. shortage and urging State Electricity Boards to give more power, diversification into newer (d) The performance of all the under areas of manufacture, provision of funds by takings is continuosly reviewed. Following Government to meet working capital require are some of the factors which have affected ment to the extent possible and providing the financial performance of the undertakings assistance in meeting their raw material to a varying degree : inputs, technology upgradation and revam (a) Shortage of power. ping the product-mix and closer monitoring of production for enabling timely remedial (b) Shortage of raw materials and coal. measures etc. Statement Department o f Industrial Development (Rs. Lakhs) Losses incurred during (------1 S. No. Undertaking 1982-83 ,1983-84 1984-85 (provisional upto Dec., *84) 1. Bharat Leather corpn. Ltd. 42.17 37.15 — 2. Bharat Opthalmic Glass Ltd. 245.07 260.73 235.62 3. Cement Corpn. of India Ltd. — — 50.900 4. Cycle Corpn. of India Ltd. 352.00 458.00 207.00 5. Hindustan Paper Corpn. Ltd. 1690.00 3077.00 2095.00 6.77 6. (a) Hindustan Salts Ltd. 16.19 33.04 (b) Sambhar Salts Ltd. 47.87 8.66 4.15 7. National Instruments Ltd, 148.49 172.39 170.80 8. National Bicycle Corpn. of India Ltd. 272.61 243.00 156.00 9. National Industrial Development Corpn. Ltd, 10.24 10. Tannery and Footwear Corpn. of India Ltd. 506.68 679.34 572.63 — 520.87 11. Tyre Corpn. of India Ltd. — *Tyre Corpn. of India Ltd. was incorporated on 24.2.1984. 127 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1685 Written Answers 128 Department o f Heavy Industry (Rs. in lakhs) Losses Incurred during r~ ~ S. No. Undertaking 1982-83 1983-81 1984-85 (Provisional upto Dec. 1984.) 1. Braithwaite & Co. Ltd. 505 70 343 2. Bharat Brakes & Valves Ltd. 112 135 135 3. Bharat Wagon & Engg. Co. Ltd. 70 — 75 4. Bharat Process & Mechanical Engg. Ltd. 178 239 130 5. Heavy Engineering Corpn. Ltd. 4,796 5,190 4,477 6. Jessop & Co. Ltd. 447 393 393 7. Mining & Allied Machinery Corpn. Ltd. 1,007 792 785 8. Richardson & Cruddas Ltd. 362 477 385 9. Scooters India Ltd. 711 1,223 1,140 10. Treveni Structural Ltd. 483 311 148 11. Tungabhadra Steel Products Ltd. 116 30 82 12. Engineering Projects U) Ltd. 1,883 3,142 1,620 13. *HooghIy Dock & Port Engineers Ltd. __ 50 (anticipated loss for 1984-85) *Became PSU in July, 1984. Hydro-crakini; Technology for Karnal hydro-cracker unit for producing maximum Refinery middle distillates is included in the proces sing scheme of Karnal project, which has 1769. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL been: approved by the Government in Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be September, 1984 pleased to state : (a) Whether a multi-million dollar order (b) Hydrocrcking technology has been for a hydro-cracker unit is expected to be opted in preference to catalytic cracking for placed shortly for the Karnal refinery; the following reasons : (b) if so, the reason why Government i) Hydrocacking technology yields have opted for the hydrocracking technology maximum middle distillates which in preference to catcracking; are in short supply in the country and minimum naphtha, which is (c) whether hydro-cracking technology * in surplus. would be preferred for other refineries also in the country; and ii) Products from hydrocracker are superior in quality and thus can be (d) if so, the details thereof ? used to upgrade other products available in the refinery. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI iii) Hydrocraking technology provides NAWAL KISHQRE SHARMA) : (a) A wide flexibility in product mix. 129 m itten Answers CHATTRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 130 (c and d).. Yes Sir, wherever expansions THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of the refineries are considered. MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM [Translation] MAD KHAN) : (a) and (b) . Data on sick industrial units assisted by banks are being Fall in production in Gorakhpur collected by the Reserve Bank of India as per Fertilizer Factory the definition of sickness adopted by it. Latest available statewise data on large sick units 1770. SHRI ZAINUL BASHER : Willas furnished by the Reserve Bank of Iqdia the Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTI are shown in the enclosed statement. In LIZERS be pleased to state : accordance with the practices and usages customary among bankers as also in confor (a) whether the production has been mity with the provisions of the statutes falling day by day in Gorakhpur Fertilizer governing nationalised banks, it will not be factory ; possible to divulge the names of individual (b) if so, the extent to which production constituents of the banks. Data on workers fell short of the installed capacity during affected in sick units is not collected by the last three years, year-wise ; Reserve Bank of India. (c) the reason for fall in production ; (c) A number of causes, both internal and and external, often operating in combination, have been responsible for closure of industrial (d) the measures being taken to improve units in the country. Some of the principal the position ? causes are faulty planning, management deficiencies, inefficient financial control, THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS diversion of resources, indadequate attention AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY to R & D, obsolescence of technology and AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI machinery, poor industrial relations, inade VEERENDRA PATIL) : (a) No, Sir. quacy of demand shortage of raw materials (b) The capacity utilisation of the and other inputs and infrastructural con Gorakhpur Fertilizer Unit was 56.61% straints. during 1982-83, 62.13% during 1983-84 and is 62.89% during 1984-85. (d) Revival of sick industrial units is considered by administrative Ministries, State fc) Does not arise. Governments and banks and financial institu tions in the light of the policy guidelines (d) A phased replacement programme issued by the Government in October, 1981. for unserviceable equipment and machinery The salient features of these guidelines have has been initiated. already been furnished in reply to Lok Sabha Unstarred Question No. 204 on 23.1. 1985. [English] Statement Big Industrial Units lying sick 1771. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA : Large Sick Units as at Will the Minister of INDUSTRY AND the end o f December , 1983 COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : State and Union No. o f Units Territories (a) the names of the big industrial units in different States which have fallen sick West Bengal 112 and have been closed down ; Maharashtra 100 (b) the uumber of workers rendered Uttar Pradesh 54 jobless as a result thereof ; Gujarat 45 (c) since when they have been closed Tamil Nadu 44 down and the reasons for their closure ; and Karnataka 29 Andhra Pradesh 19 (d) the steps Government have taken for the revival of those sick units ? Madhya Pradesh 20 131 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 132 Kerala 16 (c) The reduction in Import Duty on Bihar 13 components and parts of mechanical and Quartz Watches was announced only on 28th Haryana 12 February, 1985. It is too early to have an Rajasthan 7 assessmem of its effect on the price of Goa 5 watches. Orissa 4 (d) There is no statutory control on the Punjab 5 prices of watches. However, it is expected that there will be a voluntary reduction in Assam 2 the prices of watches as a result of the duty Delhi 1 concessions which will in turn reduce the Pondichery 3 extent of smuggling. Himachal Pradesh Jammu and Kashmir Statemcnt-I Chandigarh ' List o f Watch Manufacturers in Organised Meghalaya Sector Nagaland Tripura 1. M/s. HMT Ltd., 36. Cunnigham Road. Bangalore. Dadar, Nagar Haveli Andaman and Nikobar 2. Hyderabad Allwyn Ltd., P.B. No. Mizoram 1927,Sanathnagar, Hyderabad-500 018. Total : 491 3. M/s. Indo-French Time Industries Ltd., 12, Udyognagar, Goregaon (West), P.B. No. 7526, Bombay. Reduction in Import Duty on components 4. M/s. Hedge and Golay Ltd., of mechanical and Quartz watches 17/11 Palace Road, Bangalore. 1772. SHRI CHTNTAMANI JENA: Will 5. M/s. Sondhi Tressa Time Industries the Minister of INDUSTRY AND COM Pvt Ltd.,13/14, Jilmil Industrial Estate, PANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : Shahdara, Delhi-110 032. (a) whether Government have decided to reduce the import duty on components 6. M/s. Sandoz (India) Watch Industries, of mechanical and quartz analog wrist N-87, Panchila Park, New Delhi. watches required for the manufacture or assembly of such wrist watches ; 7. M/s. Indo-Swiss Time Ltd., New Shopping Complex, Defence (b) the number and name of the compa Colony, Opp. Moolchand Hospital, nies which are engaged in the manufacture New Delhi. of watches in the country ; 8. M/s. Jayna Time Industries, (c) how far it will affect the price of 7/25, Dariyaganj, New Delhi the watches; and 9. M/s. Camy India, (d) whether Government will consider to 7g/78-A, Abdul Rehman Street, reduce the prices of wrist watches to avoid smuggling of watches in the country ? Post Box No. 3332; Bombay. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 10- M/s. Purewal and Associates Ltd., MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND Jubber- 173 202, Dt. Solan. COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN) : (a) Yes, Sir. 11. M /.s Atr.ar Watches Pvt. Ltd., 629-A, J,S.S. Road, 'bi Two statements I and II are Dhobitalao, attached. Bombay. 133 Written Answers CHAJTRA 12, 1907 (SAK.A) Written Answers 134 Statement-ll 15. M/s. Crown Watches, D-13, Bholav Indl. Estate, List o f small scale sector watch manufac Bholav, District, turing units Reporting Production Barauch-Gujarat. 1. M/s. Ashoka Watch Co., 16. M/s. Cikesha Corpn., E-l, Unit, Govt. Indl. Estate, P.O. 16-18, Abdul Rehman St., Garangopur, Nizamabad (A.P.). Bombay. 2. M/s. Accu Times, 17. M/s. Climax Time lnds., V. Chak Gujran, 701, Sector 14, P.O. Planwala, Gurgaon, Haryana Distt, Hoshiarpur. 18. M/s. Cherupushpa Time Industries, 3. M/s. Aggarwal Engg. lnds., Dalai Kerala. D-118, Dr. Kitchloo Ngr„ 19. M/s. Diamond Time lnds., Ludhiana, ■ 131, Navin Market, Kanpur, U.P. 4. M/s. Anant Rai B. Mehta, Shed No. C-IB/73, 20. M/s. Diamond Watch lnds., G.I.D.C. Estate, 27, Ravibeth, Sholapur, VAPI, Gujarat Maharashtra 5. M/s. Alka Watches Pvt. Ltd., 21. M/s. Deccan Watch lnds., Begum Bridge . 39, Railway Link, Meerut, U.P- Sholapur, Maharashtra. 6. M/s. Astra Watches, 22. M/s. Dewan Chand & Co. 978, Sector 14, Sadar Ambala Cantt. Mehrauli Road, 23. M/s. Expo Time lnds., Gurgaon, Haryana. 38, Navin Market, 7. M/s. Asran; Time lnds., Manpur, U.P. Station Road, Katni M.P. 24. M/s. Firayalal Time lnds., 266/15, Main Road, 8- M/s. Aishwarya Enterprises, Ranchi, Bihar. Hemavathi Watch Complex, Hassan, Karnataka. 25. M/s. Goel India, 78-A, Abdul Rehman S t, 9. M/s. Aristo Time, Bombay. Abbasbhai Mulla Bldg., 190, Main Road, Opp. Market, 26. M/s. Garg Traders, Vapi, Gujarat. Bhatinda, Punjab-8. 10. M/s. Bihar Time Ind., Qazi Tola, Arrah, Bihar. 27. M/s. Global Enterprises, K-59, Sarala Nagar, 11. M/s. Bharat Time lnds., Ludhiana, Punjab. Chambaghat, Solan, H.P. 28. M/s. Globus Time lnds., 12. M/s. Bharat Mechanical Watches, A/7-C, Commercial Estate, • Sethi Niwas, Deoghat, Civil Township, PO, Saproon, Solah, H.P. Rourkela. Orissa. 13. M/s. Bhupindra Time lnds., 29. M/s. Gem watch Mfg. lnds., Old Bus Stand, Shed No.296-D, P.O. Bhawodi, Dhaulpur, Rajasthan. Distt. Alwar, Rajasthan. 14 M/s. Balbananoo, 30. M/s. Hindustan Time lnds,, B/36, I.E. Mapuca SCO No. 31, Sector 17-E* Goa. Chandigarh. 135 Written Answers APRIL 1, 1985 Written Answers 31. M/S. Himachal Time Inds., 46. M/s. M.M. Singh & Sons, 4(Ground Floor), Imphal, Manipur. * Electronics Complex, Chambaghat, Solan, H.P. 47. M/s. Mysore Time Inds., 10-First Main Road, 32. M/s. Him New Time Inds., Gandhinagar, Bangalore. Chambaghat, Solan, H.P. 48. M/s. Modem Electronics, 33. M/s. Hema Watch Industries, G.T. Road, Sonepat, 1673, Northern Extn., Kundli, Haryana. Hassan, Karnataka. 49. M /s. M.R. Verma & Bros., 34. M/s. H.J. Parikh, Bazar Mai Sevan, Rabindra Nath Tagore Rd., Amritsar. Jantar Compound, Surendra Nagar, Gujarat. 50. M/s. Radhav Time Inds., Station Road, 35. M/s. Hitkari Jain Inds., Katni, M.P. 21, Friends Colony, Gali No.3, G.T. Road, Delhi. 51. M/s. Master Watch Inds., 36. M/s. Hindustan Watch Factory, Unit No, 1, 6, Subhan Nagar, Kashipur, U. P. Rakab Ganj, Lucknow. 52. M/s. Master Time Inds,, 37. M/s. Indo-Swiss Time Inds., Unit No.2, Variety Square, Rampur, U.P. Nagpur, Maharashtra. 53. M/s. Nivino Time Inds., 38. M/s. Kashind Horological Station Road, Industries (P) Ltd., Katni, M.P. Natipara, Srinagar. 54. M/s. Narayan Time Inds., 39. M/s. Kens Time Inds., Station Road, T.B. Road, Katni, M.P. Kottayam, Kerale 55. M/s. Narayan Watch Co., 40. M/s. Kala Trading Agencies, 4, Guru Teg Bahadur Mkt., C-28, Tndl. Estate, Clock Tower, Ludhiana. Thattachavadi, Pondicherry. 56. M/s. New Time, 41. M/s. Kaveri Engineers, Bansal Lodge, 6/9, Kirtinagar Jndl. Area, Chambaghat, Solan. New Delhi. 57. M/s. Nivea Time, 42. M 's. Kamal Time Inds., Unit No. 5, Roshan Manjil, Station Road, Main Road, Damman. Katni (M.P.) 58. M/s. Olympic Time (India) 43. M/s. Kotak Watch Inds., (Pvt.) Ltd., Rajwara, Khariar Road, 184, Abu Lane, Dist. Kalahandi, Orissa. Meerur, U.P. 44. M /s. Laxmi Watch Inds., 59. M/s. Premier Watch Inds., Hemvati Watch Complex, 3037, Gandhi Road, Hassan, Karnataka. Nagin Pole, Ahmedabad-1. 45. M/s. Leoleena (India), 60= M/s. Pearl Time Industry, 6/9, Kirti Nagar Indl. Area, 7, Indl Estate, New Delhi. Dbarampur. 137 Written Answers CHA1TRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 138 61. M/s. Packard time (P) Ltd., 76. M/s. Subhas Watch Indy., 7th Mile Stone, Janata Shopping Centre, 146, G.T. Road, Sahibabad (U.P.;. 85, Navjpeth, Solapur, Maharashtra. 62. M/s. Prakash Time Inds., Outside Suraj Pole, 77. M/s. Towa Clock & Tools (P) Ltd,, Udaipur, Rajasthan. Towa Mension, City Station Road, Raipur. 63. M/s. Rajasthan Watch Mfrs , 78. M/s. Technica Watches, D-468B Road 9A, Vishwakarma Indl. Estate, Chambaghat, Solan, H.P- Jaipur. 79. M/s. Taito Watch Mfg. Indy., Tripolia Bazar, 64. M/s. Regal Time Inds., Jaipur. 136-14/72, lndl. Estate, Chondighrh. 80. M/s. Tawi Watch Industry, 168, Panjithirthi, 65. M/s. Rodenia (India), Jammu. 6/9, Kirti Ngr. lndl. Area, New Delhi. 81. M/s. Uttam Industry (P) Ltd., 23/1, Crescent Road, 66- M/s. Ruby, Bangalore, 6/9, Kirti Ngr. lndl. Area, Karnataka. New Delhi. 82. M/s. Vikas Watch Mfg. Indy., 67. M/s. Raghbir Watch Co., Police Chowk, Vir Marg, Jammu. Chandika Tassal, Jaipur. . 68. M/s. Raghav Electronics 83. M/s. Vijay Watch lnds., Industries (P) Lrd., Diwan Mohalla Road, A — 1/117, Safdarjang Enclave, Sirghat, Patna City, New Delhi. , Patna, Bihar. 69. M/s. Standard Watch Co., 84. M/s. Verma Enterprises, Indl. Estate, The Mall, Sopore, 3 & K. Solan, H.P. 70. M/s. Saraswati Time lnds., 85. M/s. Watchland Corpn., 4, Evening Bazar Road, . Janata Shopping Centre, Madras. 85, Navi Peth, Solapur, Maharashtra. 71. M/s* Shah Commercial, 4th Floor, 104, Dhanji St., Patent Protection Bombay. 1773. PROF. P.J. KURIEN : Will the 72. M/s. South India Watch lnds. Minister of INDUSTRY AND COMPANY (P) Ltd., AFFAIRS pleased to state : Elect. & Electronics lndl. Estate, Hosuf-Tamil Nadu. (a) whether the National Alliance of Young Entrepreneurs (NAYE) has urged 73. M/s. Super Times (India), Government for greater patent protection;and Ganeshpura, Jabbar Singh Rd., Morena, M.P. (b) if so, the details thereof ? 74. M/«. Sarwa Time inds., THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE G.T. Road, Ballabgarh, MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM Haryana. PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM 75. M/s. Satish C. Shah, MAD KHAN) : (a) and (b). The National 125, indl. Estate, Alliance of Young Entrepreneurs (NAYE) Silvassa, Dadra & Nagar Haveli. has submitted a memorandum to the Mini 139 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 140 ster of State for Science and Technology and the details of such cases, with names in urging the Govt, to initiate and support 1983-84 and 1984-85? measures aimed at providing small enterprises with the advantages of a greater range of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE legal protection for their inventions than has MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS been the case in the past. (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : Required information is being collected and will be In the said memorandum basically two placed on the Table of the House shortly. main points have been raised namely : (i) easy access to information on techni IBM and Coca Cola cal development by establishing decentralised patent data bank linked 1775. SHRI B.V. DESAI : Will the to a central bank through compu Minister of INDUSTRY AND COMPANY terised system; and AFFAIRS be pleased to state : (ii) expansion of legal protection for (a) whether two multi-national US invention above and beyond existing giants— the International Business Machines procedures and strengthening of and Coca Cola—outside from India in 1977- legal safeguards for other industrial are looking for returning to this country; achievements. (b) if so, whether his Ministry has not As regards the first point, there are accepted their plea and has decided against patent Inspection Centres in various parts of them; the country at different places and these centres provide free of charge access to the (c) if so, the main reasons therefor; and Patent Literature made available by the Patent Office to these Centres. In addition, (d) whether the matter is still under con the Centralised Patent Information System sideration or final decision has been conveyed (PIS) has recently been established at Nagpur to them ? to meet specific requirements regarding patent information. This centre is in the process of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE being fully developed and as such the ques MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM tion of decentralised patent data bank linked PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM-1 to a central data bank through computerised MAD KHAN) : (a) No such proposal has system does not arise at present. When the been received in the Ministry of Industry and PIS is fully developed, this facility will be Company Affairs. available. (b) to (d). Do not arise. Regarding the second point, the Patents Act, 1970, which repealed the Patents and Losses Suffered by Fertilizer Designs Act, 1911, came into force on the Corporation of India • 20th April, 1972. This Act does not discri minate between small scale industries, medium 1776. SHRI B.V. DESAI : Will the scale industries and large enterprises. All Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTI applicants for patents are treated alike and LIZERS be pleased to state : the rights, which accrue after the grant of patent, are also the same. (a) whether the Fertilizer Corporation of India’s turn-over has improved considerably at major plants; Post Offices opened during Sixth Five Year Plan (b) if so, whether the losses which the Corporation had faced during the last year 1774. PROF. NARAIN CHANDhave been considerably reduced; PARASHAR : Will the Minister of COM MUNICATIONS be pleased to state the (c) if so, whether during the first ten number of Post Office opened Circle-wise months of the current financial year, the (State-wise in case of multi-State Circles) Corporation has reduced losses by nearly 28 during each year of the Sixth Five Year Plan per cent as compared to 1983-84; 141 Written Answers CHA1TRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 142 (d) the stem measures being considered (b) if so, the outcome of the high-level to reduce the losses and also to get profit meeting and the steps being taken to reduce from these Units; and the nitric acid shortage ? (e) the extent to which the measures THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS tiken have borne fruits ? AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY VEERENDRA PATIL) : (a) and (b). The AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI shortage of Nitric Acid is due to the partial VEERENDRA PATIL) : (a) There has been disruption of production in one of the three steady improvement in the turnover of the Nitric Acid manufacturing units of Rashtriya operating units of the Corporation. Chemicals & Fertlizers (RCF), Bombay. (b) Yes, Sir. RCF have been advised to ensure that suffi (c) During the first ten months of the cient Nitric Acid is made available to meet current financial year (April 1984 to January the essential requirements of the priority 1985), the Corporation’s losses are less by Nitric Acid user industries by revising the 25,27% ^provisional figures), as compared to production plan. They are making suitable the corresponding period of the last year. arrangements accordingly to relieve the shor (d) The following steps are being taken tage. The position in this regard is being to improve the performance of the Corpora reviewed from time to time. tion : 1. Sindri Modernisation : The equip Search for Oil Reserves in ment problems in Syii. Gas Compressor, North-Eastern Region Co-conversion Section and Revex Boxes in 1778. SHRI B. V. DESAI : Will the Air separation Unit are proposed to be at Minister of PETROLEUM be pleased to tended to during the annual turn-around in slate: May-June, 1985. (a) whether exploratory drilling will be 2. Gorakhpur: A phased programme undertaken in 0.57 lakh meters through for replacement of unserviceable equipment 165 wells by the Oil and - Natural Gas and machinery has been initiated. • Commission under a massive search for more 3. Ramagundam aud Talcliar : (i) BHEL oil reserves in the North-Eastern region Specialists are being engaged for overcoming during the Seventh Five Year plan; the problems of vibration in air-compressors (b) if so, whether this includes Com and turbines, leakages in regenerators in mission’s ambitious exploratory work form air separation plant and frequent failure of ing parts of its 20 year long term conceptual boilers due to leakages on economiser, super Plan; healer and wall tubes; and (ii) Long-term (c) if so, the main target of main explo measures required to remove the constraints ratory drilling; in production have been identified based on (d) whether the identified field surveys the recommendations of a High Level Tech and exploratory drilling planned for the next nical Committee. The Company has also five years are cxpectcd to generate enough submitted a proposal for an end-to-end prospects and add to already existing belts survey of the plants. known to be bearing oil and gas structure; (e) Remedial measures already taken and have led to increase' in production and the (e) if so, the plans that will be under company has reduced losses by about Rs. 19 taken for massive research for oil reserves crores during the period April 1984 to Janu during 1985 ? ary 1985 as compared to the corresponding THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE period of the last year. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI Shortage of Nitric Acid NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a) to (d<. 1777. SHRI B. V. DL3AI : Will theThe details of the exploratory programme to be undertaken by ONGC in the North Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTI Eastern region during the Seventh Five Year LIZERS be pleased to state : Plan will be available only after the finalisa- (a) whether Government have convened a high-level meeting to consider the difficul tion of the Seventh Plan. ties being faced by chemical and drug unils (e) During the year 1985-86, the follow due to shortage of nitric acid: and ing programmes of exploration are envisaged 143 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 144 by the ONGC in Upper Assam, Nagaland and (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and Cachar : (c) whether mobile poling booths in (a) Geological Surveys (Party Years) 4 Bihar were an experiment and more such (b) Gravity Magnetic Surveys polling booths are proposed to be arranged (Party Years) 1 in future ? (c) Seismic Surveys (Party Years) 12 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) Exploratory drilling MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (i) Metreage 64610 (SHRI H. R. BHARDWAJ) : (a) to (c). (ii) No. of wells 22 The Election Commisions which has been Construction of new Post and Telegraph consulted in the matter has informed that Offices in Rajnandgaon (M.P.) the required information is being collccted 1779. SHRI SHIVENDRA BAHADUR form the State and that the exercise will take SINGH : Will the Minister of COMMUNI some more time. The information which the CATIONS be pleased to state : Election Commission will make available (a) whether there is any proposal for after completing such exercise will be laid constructing new Post Offices and Telegraph on the Table of the House immediately after Offices in the district headquarters of Raj receipt of the same. nandgaon; and Import of Paper and Newsprint (b) if so, the details thereof and 1781. SHRI AJOY BISWAS : Will the the time by which the construction of Post Minister of INDUSTRY AND COMPANY Offices is likely to start ? AFFAIRS be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE fa) the total demand of paper and news MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS print in the country at present; and (SHRI RAM N1WAS MIRDHA) : (a) No, (b) the total quanitity of paper and news Sir. print imported during 1982, 1983 and 1984 (b) Not applicable. and the value thereof ? Use of mobile polling booths in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Elections MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM 1780. SHRI G. G. SWELL : Will the PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased MAD KHAN) : (a) Demand for paper and to state : paper board by end of 1984-85 is estimated (a) whether during the February (1985) at 15.40 lakh tonnes and that of newsprint Assembly elections, mobile polling booths during 1984-85 at 3.85 lakh tonnes. had to be arranged for the voters in the (b) The total quantity of paper and eastern embankment of the Kosi river in newsprint imported and the value thereof is Bihar; as follows : White Printing Paper jNewsprint Year Qty (MT) Value Qty (MT) Value (Rs. crores) (Rs. crores) 1981-82 43,080 28.01 300,526 154.66 1982-83 5,766 3.74 200.012 108.94 1983-84 3,903 2.17 193,707 99.98 1984-85 Nil Nil 193,325 111.61 (April (Prov) Dec.) Apart from the above, import of small quantity of newsprint and printing under REP and special varieties of paper takes place. Drilling in Cachar District of Assam (a) the number of rigs1 operating in Cachar district of Assam; 1782. SHRI AJOY BISWAS : Will the (b) the target of drilling fixed by Oil and Minister of PETROLEUM be pleased to Natural Gas Commission in Cachar district state: during 1982, 1983 and 1984; 145 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 146 (c) the achievements during the period; Telegraph Offices in the country during the year 1985; and (d) the reasons for not achieving the target; and (d) if so, the details thereof ? (e) the steps Government have taken to THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE remove the bottlenecks ? MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) ; (a) Criteia for THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE opening of post offices is at Statement-1 and MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI for telegraph offices (combined offices) is at NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a) Two. Statement-II and Statment-lII attached. (b) and (c). The targets are fixd financial year-wise. The target of drilling during the (b) New post offices opened during : last three financial years and the correspon (i) 1984 January to December, 1984 ding achievements are as follows : are as under ;- Metreage drilled Country urban area 79, Targets Actuals Rural area 361 1982-83 2908 642 Orissa urban area 18, 1983-84 2200 1196 Rural area 21 1984-85 3789 2407 (ii) Telegraph offices (combined offices) (upto opened during 1984 from 1.4.84 to 22-3-85) 15.1.85 are as under : (d) The main reasons are : Country 136 (i) down-hole complications caused Orissa as on 15.2.85 26 by difficult subsurface conditions. (c) and (d). Not yet finalised. (ii) difficult logistics. (iii) difficult location of structures like Statement-I hilly terrain or low marshy areas, etc. Norms for Opening o f Post Offices (e) The steps inter-alia include moder (A) Criteria for opening of post offices nization of equipment, training of personnel in rural areas and efforts with concerned organisations to strengthen bridges to facilitate movement of Post offices to be opened in rural areas rigs and heavy equipment. have been classified into two categories :— (1) Post offices in normal areas; Opening New Post Officcs and Telegraph Offices and 1783. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA : (2) Post offices in tribal or backward Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS areas. be pleased to state : (1) Opening of Post Offices in normal (a) the criteria adopted for opening of a rural areas ; new post office or telegraph office in the country; (i) Post Offices in ‘gram-panchayat* villages may be opened subject to (b) the number of new Post Offices and the following conditions. Telegraph Offices opened in the country during 1984 particularly in Orissa; (a) There is no other post office within the radius of 3 Kms. (c) whether any survey has been condu from the proposed Post Office; cted for opening the new Post Offices and and Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 148 (b) The proposed Post Office is Note : The Rural Post Offices fall into the expected to yield income to category of : the extent of atleast 25% of its estimated cost. (i) Normal rural areas; and (ii) Backward and tribal. The Tribal (ii) Post Offices in ‘Non-gram pancha- areas have been defined by the yat’ villages may be opened subject Ministry of Home Affairs. Back to the following conditions. ward areas from the postal develop ment point of view, are defined, va) The population of the village considering the state of develop should be 2,000 or more; ment of a particular area is 100% behind the all-India averages of (b) There is no other Post Office population/area served per Post within the radius of 3 Kms. Office or not. from the pro rosed office; and (u) Secondly, when a particular area (c) The Post Office is expected to is worse off than the all-India yield income to the extent of average and also the Circle average atleast 25% of its estimated on counts of population/area served, cost. besides comparing unfavourably with the Circle as a whole in respect (2) Opening of Post Offices in tribal and of percentage of villages provided backward areas : with Post offices, the area is given the status of ‘backward” (i) Post Offices in ‘gram-panchayat’ (iii) The all-India average per Post villages may be opened subject to Office is 23.10 sq. Kms and popu the following conditions : lation 4,805. The backward areas and the tribal areas are subsidized (a) There is no other Post Office more in order to bring them up at within the radius of 3 Kms a faster pace. from the proposed Post Office; and (iv) The concept of “Hilly Areas” has been dispensed with as hilly (b) The proposed Post Office is areas which are also tribal areas, expected to yield income to are automatically covered in the the extent of alleast 10% of category of ‘Tribal Areas’. its estimated cost. (B) Criteria for opening PostOffices in (ii) Post Offices in ‘Non-gram pancha- L?rban Areas yat’ villages may be opened subject to the following conditions : Post Offices are opened in urban areas fa) The village (or an integrated subject to the following cemditions : cluster of villages within a radius of 1.5 Kms.) should (i) The Post Office should be financially have a population of 1,000 or self-supporting, and more. (ii) The minimum distance between two (b) There should not be another Post Offices should be 1 Km. in Post Office within the radius cities with a population of 20 lakhs of 3 Kms. from the proposed and above. In other urban areas, Post Office; and the minimum distanee between two Post Offices should be 1.5 Kms. (c) The proposed Post Officc is expected to yield income to Heads of Circles are competent to relax the extent of atleast 10% of the distance condition in 10% of the cases its estimated cost. every year. 149 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 150 Statement-11 (iii) Non-Departmenta! LDPT agents may be employed wherever neces MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS sary, either due to non-availability P & T BOARD of Post Offices or where the wor king hours of the Post Offices is Revised Policy for Opening of Long inadequate. The selection of Non- Distance Public Telephones LDPTS/ Deparlmental LDPT agents will be Combined Offices (COS) in Rural decided by the G. M. T. of the Areas Territorial Circle. The present policy of the Department for (iv) The remuneration for the Non- opening of Long Distance Public Telephones/ Departmental LDPT agent'may be Combined Offices on loss basis during the 4J(forty) paise per call subject to a 6th Plan period (Annexure-1), has been under maximum of Rs. 250/- (Two Hund consideration of the P&T Board for some red and Fifty) per month and the time. The studies undertaken in this regard working hours of the LDPT may be reveal that the policy of opening long dista atleast 8 hours. The remuneration nce public telephones without stipulating so received shall not constitute the minimum-revenue on the basis of population main source of income to the LDPT will result in disparity in the extension of agent except in the case of handi this facility in the rural areas, particularly in capped persons. hilly and sparsely populated regions of the country. After a careful review of the present policy and with a view to ensuring a more The P&T Board have also directed that uniform penetration of telecom, facilities in the entire country may be divided into the rural areas of all States with greater clusters of villages forming hexagonal areas emphasis on reliability of service, the P&T (with a symmetrical hexagon of 5 Km. Board has decided as follows : side), leaving out, of course, areas which are uninhabited, like mountainous regions, rivers, (i) While the present policy, as detailed lakes, deserts etc. and that the village to in Annex-1 will continue the esta serve as the focal point in each cluster, blishment of LDPTs accessible where the LDPT can be located may be within 5 Kms. of most habitations identified. The task of identifying village in the country may be adopted as a clusters for the establishment of TDPTs to policy objective to be achieved pro achieve the 5Km. accessibility objective has gressively by 1990 beginning from been entrusted to the National Council of the current year. Stipulation of Applied Economic Research (NCAER); minimum revenue as a pre-condition whose report with detailed maps, would be for providing an LDPTs may be made available to the Circles for planning removed for LDPTs required for purposes. meeting this objective of spatial distribution. On receipt of the detailed maps with the requisite data for location of LDPTs for the (ii) Multi-Access Radio Telephone Sys village clusters as per study by NCAER, tem may be adopted as the techno Heads of Circles will arrange to draw up a logy to establish LDPTs to improve detailed annual programme for opening of reliability and availability in hilly, future LDPTs both on open wire system and coastal, forest and desert areas as Multi-Access Radio System with a view to well as tribal and scheduled areas implement the above decisions of the P&T and other regions where power Board. induction makes the openwire line unsuitable ^nd in plains where the place is connected by road beyond The Project Estimates for the opening of a distance (route length) .of 20 Kms. LDPTs under the Multi-Acccss Radio System and in all cases, where the Multi should, however, continue to be referred to Access Rural Radio System tends the Directorate for the purpose of allotment to be cost-effective also. of equipment etc. 151 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 152 Statement-111 Policy for Provision o f PCOs on Loss Categories of stations 1. District Headquarters. 2. Sub-Divisional Headquarters. 3. Tehsil Headquarters. 4. Sub Tehsil Headquarters. 5. Block Headquarters. 6. Places with a population of 5000 or more in ordinary areas and 2500 or more in backward or hilly areas, Condition for Provision of Public Condition for Provision of Combined Call Officcs Offices Will be provided progressively irrespective of W'ill be provided progressively irrespective of loss and without any condition of minimum loss and without any condition of minimum revenue. revenue. 7. Places with Police Stations under the charge of an ofiiccr of the rank of a Sub Inspector of Police or above. Condition for Provision of Public Call Officcs Condition for Provision of Combined Offices The anticipated revenue should be at least The anticipated revenue should be at least 25% of the ARE (Annual recurring expendi 25% for the ARE in ordinary areas, and 15% ture) in ordinary areas, and 15% of ARE in of ARE in backward areas and 10% of ARE backward areas, and 10% of ARE in hilly in hilly areas. areas. . 8. Out of the way places. (a) Should be beyond 40 Kms. (radial dista (a) Should be beyond 20 Kms. (radial dista nce) from an existing exchange. nce) from an existing Telegraph Office. (b) The anticipated revenue should be atleast (b) the anticipated revenue should be at least 25% of ARE in ordinary areas. 15% of ARE 25% of ARE in ordinary areas, 15% of ARE in backward areas & 10% ARE in hilly areas. in backward areas and 10% of the ARE in hilly areas, (c) The anticipated loss should not exceed Rs. 2000/- p.a. in ordinary areas and Rs. 5000/- p. a. in backward/hilly areas. 9. Tourist/pilgrimage centres/agricultural/irrigation/power project sites/townships. Condition for provision of Public Call Offices Condition for Provision of Combined Offices (a) The anticipated revenue should be at (aj The anticipated revenue should be at least least 25% of ARE in ordinary areas, 15% 25% of ARE in ordinary areas, 15% of ARE of ARE in backward areas and 10% of ARE in backward areas, and 10% of ARE in hilly in hilly areas. areas. (b) The anticipated loss should not exceed Rs. 2000/- p. a. in ordinary areas and Rs. 5000/- p. a. in backward/hiliy areas. 153 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 154 10. All other stations. Condition for Provision of Public Call Offices Condition for Provision of Combined Offices On the basis of Financial viability or in the On the basis of financial viability or in the case of loss on rent and guarantee basis. case of loss on rent and guarantee basis. Note : (1) (a) For considering the population figures, the population of the town or village alone should be taken into account and not that of a group of towns or villa ges except in the case of tribal areas where a group of villages within a radius of 10 Kms. from a central village, can be considered. No two Public Tele phones can be opened under this relaxed condition within a distance of 10 Kms. from each other. (b) When identifying important central villages for provision of Public Telephones, preference will be given in the following order : (i; Tribal Development Block Headquarters. (ii) Places where LAMPS {Large Sized Multipurpose Cooperative Societies) are established; and (iii) Centres identified by the local Tribal Development Departments for deve- lpmcnt of rural industries and/or irrigation projects for intensive agricul- atural development. (2) No Telegraph Office should be opened on loss if another telegraph Office is already working within 8 Kms of the proposed office. Party-wise position of votes polled in Lok- (c; which of these regulators has been Sabba State Assemblies Elections found to be more useful and safe ? 1784. SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN : THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI be pleased to state : NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a) There are two types of pressure regulators currently (a) the polling percentage in the recent used in domestic cooking gas connections in Lok Sabha and the State Assemblies in the the country— ‘ country; and (i) Regulators having screwed connectors (b) the number of votes polled by each on the inlet. political party in these elections, State-wise ? (ii) Regulators having click-on connec THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tors on the inlet. MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ) : (a) and (b) . (b) The names of the manufacturers of The required information is not readily avai these regulators are as follows : lable with the Election Commission. It will be laid on the Table of the House soon after (i) M/s. Vanaz Engineers Private it is made available by the Commission. Limited, Pune. (ii) M/s. Kosan Metal Products Private Regulators used in Cooking Gas Cylinders Limited, Surat/Bombay. 1785. SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN : (iii) M/s. L.P. Gas Equipment Com Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be plea pany, Bharuch- sed to state : (iv) M/s. Kabsons Gas Equipment Pri (a) the types of regulators used in the vate Limited, Hyderabad. cooking gas cylinders in the country ; (b) the names of the manufacturers of (v) M/s. Indo-Burma Petroleum Com these regulators; and pany Limited, Bombay. 155 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 156 (c) Both are equally useful and safe in Completion of Aim ora-ghat motor road, serving the purpose of pressure reduction and Uttar Pradesh maintaining the reduced pressure within the limits specified by the relevant standards. 1787. SHRI HARISH RAW AT : Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state : [Translation! (a) whether Director General, Border Loan and subs My available in States Roads has completed the work of reconstruc for Self-Employment Scheme tion, widening and metalling the Almora- Ghat motor road in Uttar Pradesh within the 1786. SHRI D1LEEP SINGH BHURIA:stipulated time; and Will the Minister of INDUSTRY AND (b) if not, the time by which this work COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : is likely to be completed ? (a) the amount of loan and subsidy THE MfNISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI made available in different States and Union P.V. NARASIMHA RAO) : (a) and (b). Re Territories under self-employment scheme construction and widening works on the road announced by the late Prime Minister Indira and 95% of the metalling works have been Gandhi; completed. Remaining works are expected to be completed during the current year, 1985. (b) the number of persons belonging to Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes Setting up of mini cement plants in U.P. among the beneficiaries of the said scheme; 1788. SHRI HARISH RAWAT : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY AND COM (c) whether it is a fact that a large num PANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : ber of persons belonging to Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes have not derived bene (a) whether letters of intent were issued fits of this scheme; and to any Public Sector Undertaking of Uttar Pradesh for setting up mini cement plants in (d) if so, the steps being taken by Almora and Pithoragarh districts; Government in this regard ? (b) if so, when these letters of intent were issued and whether these letters of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE intent were converted into industrial licence MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM and this undertaking has since started the PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM construction work of all these cement plants; MAD KHAN) : (t) Under the Scheme and Government of India pays a subsidy of 25% (c) if not, the steps proposed to be taken of the total. loan amount which is limited to by his Ministry to obviate the delay ? Rs. 25,000.00. The amount of loan varies from venture to venture. No monetary tar THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE gets have been fixed by the Government of MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM India for States/UTs bat targets of the num PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM ber of beneficiaries for each State have been MAD KHAN) : (a) to (c). Since 1980, four fixed and whatever loan amounts are sanctio Letters of Intent have been issued to M/s. ned in a State 25% of the same is committed Kumaon Mandal Vikas Nigam Limited, a to be paid by the Government of India as U.F. State Government Undertaking, for the subsidy. setting up of mini cement plants in Almora and Pithoragarh districts. Details of these (b) to (d) . Category-wise information Letters of Intent together with status of of beneficiaries is not collected by the Cen implementation are given in the statement tral Government. annexed. Statement ::;; _,. Sl. Name of the State Date of issue of Annual Capacity Location States of implementation No. Undertaking Letter of Intent (in Iakh tonnes) ~ 1. M/s. Kumaon Mandai 24.3.1982 0.66 Uttarakhand The Nigam has been addressed to report the progress ~- Vikas Nigam Ltd. Region U.P . made in the implementation of the Project so as to consi- ~ der the question of revalidation of the Letter of Intent. ~ <;; ~ 2. -do- 13.~.1982 0.66 Teh .Ranikhet The Letter of Intent was cancelled on 7.1.1985 as there ~ Dt. Almora was no satisfactory progress in the implementation of the (U.P.) project. () ::c 3. -do- 19.8.1982 0.66 Vil. Gangoli- The Letter of Intent was cancelled on 4.1.1985 as there >- hat I, Teh. was no satisfactory progress in the implementation of the =1 ::0 and Distt. project. >- Pithoragarh ,!'--> (U.P.) ...... ~_, 4. -do- 31.12.1982 0.66 Vil. Gangoli- State Govt. have reported that the land for factory site hat-II, Teh. has been selected at the Loha Ghat and that civil cons- til >- and Distt. truction works have also been commenced. The site has ~ Pithoragarh been approved by U.P . Water Pollution Control Board ~ (U.P.) from environmental angle. The Nigam has been advised to ensure that all the conditions mentioned in the Letter ~ of Intent are fulfilled so that the conversion of Letter of ~- Intent into Industrial Licence can be considered. ~ ~ ::: 3"' v...... 00 159 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1685 Written Anxwrrs 160 Opening of Public Call olflccs in Almora [English] Cbamoli, Uttarkashi, Paurl, Tihri and Pithoragarh Districts of Uttar STD Facilities in Orissa during 1985-86 Pradesh 1790. SHRIMATI JAY ANTI PATNA1K: 1789. SHRI HARISH RAWAT : Will Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be be pleased to state : pleased to state : (a) whether Government have a proposal (a) the total number of Public Call to provide STD facilities between the metro Offices opened in Almora* Chamoli, Uttar politan cities and the important cities of kashi, Pauri, Tehri and Pithoragarh districts different States; of Uttar Pradesh, separately during the years 1982-83, 1983-84 and 1984-85; year-wise; (b) if so, the names of the important cities in Orissa proposed to be provided with (b) whether very few Public Call Offices S.T.D. facilities with the metropolitan cities were opened in these districts during 1983-84; in 1985-86; and (c) if so, the reasons therefor; and (c) the details thereof ? (d) the steps being taken for opening THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Public Call Offices in these areas in sufficient MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS number so as to meet their present require (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) Yes ment ? Sir. THE MTNISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) and (c). During 1985-86, no new MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS city in Orissa is proposed to be provided (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) The with S.T.D. facilities with the metropolitan number of Public Call Offices opened in cities. these districts are given below : [Translation] Distt. 82-83 83-84 84-85 Setting up of the Office of the Superinten Almora 14 6 — dent of Post Offices at Jaisalmer, Rajasthan Chamoli 2 — —- 1791. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN; Uttarkashi 1 2 — Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : Pauri — — 2 (a) whether the border district Jaisalmer Tehri 1 — — has no office of the Superintendent of Post Pithoragarh 5 4 3 Offices despite being the largest district of Rajasthan and having Rajasthan (Indira) Canal and tourist places; and (b) 12 Public call offices were opened in these districts during 1983-84, as against a (b) if so, the time by which the said total of 293 in Uttar Pradesh Circle. Office will be set up at the Jailsalmer district headquarters in order to fulfil the just (c) The progress is slow due to hilly demand of the local people ? area. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (d) Public Call Offices on Multi Access MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Rural Radio schemes have been proposed (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) There for the districts of Almora, Chamoli, Uttar is no Office of Superintendent of Post Offices kashi, Pauri, Tehri and Pithoragarh. in Jaisalmer District. 16] Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 162 (b) New Postal Divisions are carved out Poor Telephone service in Bombay by bifurcating the jurisdiction of existing 1793. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE; Postal Divisions as per certain norms laid Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS down by the Department. At present Jaisal- be pleased to state : mer district forms a part of Jodhpur Postal Division. Creation of Jaisalmer Postal Divi fa) whether the telephone system in the sion by bifurcation of Jodhpur Postal Divi city of Bombay has come to a stand still due sion is not justified as the departmental to frequent interruptions and failure of . norms in this regard are not satisfied. getting correct numbers; (b) if so, the number of complaints [English] received during 1984, month-wise details Development of highly Sophisticated navi thereof; gational system for Armoured vehicles (c) the steps taken to provide better and by defence research and development uninterrupted service to telephone subscri wing bers; 1792. PROF MADHU DANDAVATE: (d) whether theTe is any proposal to SHRI S.M. GURADD1 : give compensationto subscribers whose SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI telephones remain dead for long periods; KHAN : and Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state; (e) if so, the details thereof? (a) whether the Defence Research and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Development Wing with collaboration has MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS developed a highly sophisticated navigational (SHRI RAM N1WAS MIRDHA) : (a) No, system for the armoured vehicles; Sir. Interruptions on some telephones do occur but these are attended to within the (b) if so, whether the system has been shortest possible time. implemented by Government; and (b) The number of telephone complaints (c) if not, the reasons therefor ? from January, 1984 to December, 1984 arc THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI given in the attached Statement-I. P.V. NARASIMHA RAO) : (a) Yes, Sir. (c) The measures taken to minimise the This was done by the Instrument Research complaints arc given in the attached State- & Development Establishment, Dehradun. ment-II. (b) The Defence Ministry has placed (d) Yes, Sir. Some proposals have been production order for this system. received and are under consideration. (c) Does not arise. («) No decision has been taken. Statement-1 Number o f Telephone complaints from January, 1984 to December, 1984 w Bombay Month No. of complaints Remarks January, 1984 186656 February, 1984 193914 March, 1984 215834 April, 1984 192284 May, 1984 195714 June, 1984 266015 _ July, 1984 307454 ‘ August, 1984 243700 Monsoon months. September, 1984 229920 i October, 1984 185607 November, 1984 183848 December, 1985 164517 163 Written 4nwers APRIL 2r 1985 Written Answers 164 Statement II iod 1980 to 1984 and the places where oil and natural gas have been found, details Long-term and short-term measures being taken thereof ; to minimise the number o f complaints (b) the details of the amount spent and in Bombay Telephone District the quality of oil and natural gas found at 1. Laying of cables inducts to protect these places; and them from external damages. (c) the time by which commercial pro 2. Pressurisation of cables to prevent in duction is likely to start at these places ? gress of moisture and minimise faults. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 3. Use of jelly filled cables in the distri MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI bution network to prevent ingress of NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a) to (c). moisture. The required information is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the Sabha. 4. Patrolling of main cable routes to detect damages caused to telephone cables by various utility services and [English] take prompt precautionary measures. Collaboration agreements for technical 5. Ensuring proper implementation of know-how, drawings aud designs inter-utility code of conduct among 1795. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY : Will the various public utility services. the Minister of INDUSTRY AND COM 6. Replacement of heavy over-head lines PANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : by underground cables in the Eastern (a) the country-wise breakup of 464 and Western suburbs collaboration agreements for technical know 7. Block wiring of subscribers premises how entered inio last year, along with the to keep the subscriber’s telephones and type of know-how sought to be obtained wiring in good condition. through them; and 8. Locking and sealing of Cabinets, (b) the country-wise break-up of 128 pillars and D.P. Boxes. collaboration agreements for drawings and designs entered into last year alongwith the 9. Tightening of inspections of internal nature of drawings and designs being sought? and external network. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 10. Improving the maintenance of exchange MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM equipment. PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM 11. Monitoring the performance of inter MAD KHAN) : (a) and ^b) . Government nal and external plants and initiating have approved 752 proposals for foreign measures to overcome the short collaborations in 1984. The particulars of comings. foreign collaboration proposals approved, viz. 12. Introduction of sophisticated electro name of the Indian Company, foreign colla nic telephone exchanges. borator, item of manufacture, nature of colla boration arc published on a quarterly basis 13. Scrapping of life expired equipments. by the Indian Investment Centre as supple 14. Use of improved telephone instru ment to its Monthly News Letter. Also, the ments. summary of the Foreign Collaboration Agree ments is being published alongwith the [Translation] quarterly list. Copies of the publication are sent regularly to the Parliament Library. Exploration of Oi! and Natural Gas Out of 752 proposals for foieign collabora tion approved by government, the details in 1794. SHRI C.D. GAM1T : Will the respect of 740 proposals have already been Minister of PETROLEUM be pleased to published by Indian Investment Centre. The stale : particulars of remaining 12 proposals for (a) the names of places in Gujarat and foreign collaboration are yet to be published. and other States where oil and natural gas A statement showing the details alongwith explorations were conducted during the per country-wise break-up is enclosed. Statement Supplementary list o f Foreign Technical!Financial Collabotation Cases Approved During , 1984 SI. No. Name of the Indian Co. Name of the Foreign Co. Item of manufacture/Activity Nature of collaboration rte Ans»m Written 1. M/s. Neptune Equipment Private Limi M/s. Alfred Karchar GmbH High pressure cleaning Equipment Technical ted., 128 New Cloth Market, Outside & Co., West Germany HIR 1, 1907 (SAKA) 12, CHAITRA Raipur Gate, Ahmedabad-380001 2. M/s. Universal Engg. Corpn. E-2/77, M/s. Kabag Karlsruher Concrete Mixing and batching Technical Jhandewalan, New I>elhi. Baumaschinen GmbH, plants West Germany 3. M/s. NCEF Limited Post Bag 3876 M/s. AEC-Telefunken West Engaging the Services of foreign Technical Bangalore-560038 Germany technicians 4. Dr. Nagappa Chandrashekhara, Saket M/s. Datalgic SPA Optic Electronic Switch Financial 8/10, Bull Temple Rd. Basavangudi, Italy Bangalore 560004 5. M,/s, Sunil Steel Industries Private Limited, M/s. Aliabdullatif Hussan Steel Cast Rolls and General Steel Financial 22, Baroda Street, Bombay-400009 Alsarraf, Kuwait Castings rte Answers Written 6. M/s. Ravalgaon Sugar Farm Limited, M/s. Auto Wrapper (Nor Biscuit Wrapping M/C-*WL’ Type- Technical Construction House, Walchand Hirachand wich) U.K. Speed 32 packs per minutes of Marg, Bombay-400036 about 13 rectangular Biscuit in double wrapped wax paper 7. M/s. Deccan Enterprises Private Limited, M/s. Harefield Rubber Co. Rubber flooring tiles Technical 5-2-175/1, Rashtrapathi Road, Limited, U.K. Secunderabad-500003. 8. M/s. International Conveyor Limited, M/s. B.B.A. Group Limited, PVC Mining Conveyor Beltings Technical 10, Middleton Row, Calcutta-700071 England. 9. M/ s. Remi Process Plam and Machinery M/s. farl'is Burg, lnc., Chemical Handling equipment for Technical ~ Limited, 53, Mittal Court-A, U.S.A oil exploration --.1 Bombay-400021. 10. M/s. Bihar Hotels Limhed, South Gandhi M/s. Sheraton International, Technical Services and sales/ Technical Maidan, Post Box. 157, Patna·800001 , loc. U.S.A. arrangements ~ 11. M/s. Rathi Industrial Equipment Co. M/s . USF Environment<\] Filter Media .6ags Technical :::"' Pvt. Ltd., 27, Shank~;rshetRoad , Syst~;msCorpn ., U .S.A, Pune-411037. ~ ""' ;::"' 12. M/s. Mepco Metal Powder Private M/s. Worl-Tech , Metals and High Speed Steel Alloy Metal Financial Lim ted, 311/312, Jogani Industrial Estate, Composite Corpn, U.S.A. Powder etc. Tulsi Pipe Roild, Dadar, Bombay-400028 :s> '""0 c: r ~ ._. ~ CQ v. ~ ~ ::... ::: "' "' "'~ 00"' 169 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 170 Summary o f Foreign Collaboration Agreement Approvals (Supplementary) During 1984 S. No. Name of the Country Tech. Drawing and Design Financial Total 1. F.R.G. 3 ■ i . « • • 3 2. Italy ... • • • 1 1 3. Kuwait ...... 1 1 4. U.K. 3 • • » • • • 3 5. U.S.A. 3 ««• 1 4 Total 9 • « • 3 12 Panel to revamp KhadI and Village Statement Industries Commission List o f Village Industries Falling under 1796. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY : Will the Purview o f Khadi and Village the Minister of INDUSTRY AND COM Industries Commission PANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : 1. Beekeeping fa) the composition and terms of refe 2. Cottage Match Industry, Manufac rence of the panel that has been set up to ture of Fireworks and Agarbatties. revamp Khadi and Village Industries Commi- ision in order to ensure that Khadi really 3. Cottage Pottery Industry. becomes the livery of freedom as had been enunciated by the Father of the Nation; and 4. Cottage Soap Industry. (b) the number and nature of village 5. Flaying, curing and tanning of hides Industries that have been successfully develo and skins and ancillary industries ped so far by K.V1C ? connected with same and cottage leather industry. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 6. Ghani oil Industry. MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHA 7. Handmade Paper. MMAD KHAN : (a) The Government have 8. Manufacture of Cane-gur and Kha constituted a Committee to review the role and ndsari. performance of Khadi and Village Industries Commission and make suggestions to im 9. Palm-gur making and other palm- prove its functionning. A copy of the terms products Industry. of reference of the Committee is laid on the table of the House. (Placed in library. See 10. “Processing, Packaging and marke L.T. NO 779/85) ting of Cereals, pulses, Spices, Con diments, Masalas etc.” (b) Under the KVIC Act, 1956, 26 in 11. Manufacture and use of manure and dustries have been included in the Schedule methane gas from cowdung and of Industries. other waste products (such as flesh A list of such Industries is enclosed in the of dead animals, night soil, etc.). form of a Statement. However in terms of 12. Lime Stone, Line Shell and other production and employment the industries Lime products Industry. like Ghani oil, Village Leather, Gur and Khandsari, Carpentry and Blacksmithy, Pro 13. Manufacture of Shellac. cessing of Cereals and Pulses, Village Pottery, Bee-keeping and Fibre (other than 14. Collection of forest plants and fruits coir) can be said to be very successful. for medicinal purposes. 171 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 172 15. Fruit and Vegetable Processing, (c) the reasons for shortfall, if any, in Preservation and canning including achieving the target in West Bengal during pickles. the period mentioned above ; and 16. Bamboo and cane work, (d) the amount sanctioned as assistance 17. Blacksmithy. by the Centre for such programmes and the amount of assistance actually utilised by the 18. Carpentry. State Government during the period ? 19. Fibre other than coir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 20. Manufacture of household utensils in MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM aluminium. PANY AFFAIRS iSHRI ARIF MOHAM MAD KHAN) : (a) No, Sir. 21. Manufacture of Katha. 22. Manufacture of Gum resins. (b) to (d) Do not arise. 23. Manufacture of Lok-Vastra cloth. Maintenance of Normal Production in 24. “Poly Vastra” which means any Defence Production units cloth woven on handloom in India from yarn handspun in India from 1798. SHRI S. M. GURADDI : Will a mixture of man-made fibre with the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to either cotton, silk or wool or with state : any two or all of them or from a mixture of man-made fibre yard fa) whether a number of defence pro hand-spun in India with either Co duction units in the country have been very tton, Silk or Woollen Yarn hands slow in production and are on the verge of pun in India or with any two or all closure; of such Yam. (b) if so, the details thereof ; 25. Processing of maize and ragi. (c) the units which have failed to com 26. Manufacure of Rubber Goods plete their target during the year 1984 ; and (Dipeed Latex Products). (d) the steps taken to maintain the nor mal production ? Generation of additional employment in West Bengal under District Industries THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE Centre Programmes (SHRI P. V. NARASIMHA RAO : (a) No, Sir. 1797. SHRI BHOLA NATH SEN : Will the Minister of INDUSTRIES AND COM (b) Question does not arise. PANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : (c) and (d).36 Ordnance Factories (inclu (a) whether Government of India had ding 2 at project stage) and 9 Defence public fixed any target under the District Industries sector undertakings constitute the family of Centre Programmes for generation of addi Defence Production units. The performance tional employment by extending necessary of these units is closely monitored by the facilities and providing various kinds of production authorities as well as by the financial and technical assistance for setting Government at the Ministry level through up new units by the private entrepreneurs in periodical production review meetings in West Bengal ; which representatives of the users, production and other concerned agencies participate. In (b) if so, the actual achievement in these meetings, problems and constraints in West Bengal as compared to the target fixed production are analysed and appropriate re by the Centre for the period between 1979 medial action initiated, in order to help 80 to 1983-84 ; achieve maximum production. 173 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 174 The value of production for all the number of trucks and bus chassis, separately, Defence Production Units increased from Rs. produced during the years 1982, 1983 and 2013.13 crores in 1982-83 to Rs. 2431.85 1984 and the target for the year 1985 by crores in 1983-84 and the value in the finan each of these companies ; and cial year 1984-85 is likely to be around Rs. 2899 crores. (b) the names of the companies manu facturing cars in the country and their pro Companies manufacturing trucks and bus duction during the year 1982, 1983 and 1984 chassis and Production thereof and the target for the year 1985 by each of these companies ? 1799. SHRTMATI GEETA MUKHER- JEE : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY t h e Min is t e r o f s t a t e in t h e AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM state : PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM MAD KHAN) : (a) and (b). Information in (a) the names of the companies manu respect of major manufacturers is given in facturing trucks and bus chassis and the total the attached statement. Statement SI. 1982 1983 1984 1985 (Target) No. Name of manufacturers Bus Truck Bus Truck Bus Truck Bus Truck 1. T.E.L.C.O. Ltd. 9 34 11 34 14 32 14 42 2. Ashok Leyland Limited 7 9 6 6 7 7 15 (for both) Passenger Cars. 1 982 1983 1984 1985 1. Premier Automobiles. 20 21 26 36 2. Maruti Udyog Limited. — Negl igiblc 13 42 3. Hindustan MotQrs Lid. 21 23 24 30 Transfer of Judges The Government have accepted the recom mendation of the Law Commission that there 1800. SHRI CH1TTA MAHATA : should be a convention whereby one-third of SHRI VILAS MUTTEMWAR : Judges in each High C ourt' should be from Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE outside the state. This decision can be im be pleased to state : plemented by making initial appointments from outside as well as by effecting transfers. (a) whether judges of various High A beginning has been made by implementing Courts are being transferred from one High a policy of having Chief Justices of High Court to another ; Courts from outside in accordance with cer (b) if so, the details thereof and how tain guidelines drawn up after consultation many judges have been transferred in various with the Chief Justice of India which was High Courts* High Court-wise figures ; announced through a Press Note dated 28.1.1983. Statement laid on the Table of (c) whether there was any protest against the House (placed in Library See L.T No. this system ; and 780/85). So far, appointment/transfer of 12 Chief Justices from outside High Courts (d) if so, the details thereof and decision have been made (Statement attached). taken thereon ? Few initial appointments of puisne Judges THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE have also been made from outside. Transfers MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE of puisne Judges, as such, have not been (SHRI H. R. BHARDWAJ) : (a) and (b). made. 175 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 176 (c) and (d). A view has been expressed cases where the interest of the parent High that the policy of having Chief Justice from Court requires it. outside has failed and has done more harm to the High Courts than good, and that There is no revision as yet in the policy transfers should be resorted to in exceptional announced in the Press Note dated 28.1.1983, Statement Statement showing the names o f Chief Justices who have been appointedj transferred from outside High Courts pursuant to the policy o f the government announced on 28-1-1983 SI. No. High Court Chief Justice Appointed/transferred Date of appointment from which High Court 1. 2. 3. 4. S/Shri Justice 1. Orissa Dambrudhar Pathak (12.8.1983) Gauhati 2. Gauhati T.S. Misra (12,8.1983) Allahabad 3. Jammu & Kashmir V. Khalid (24.8.1983) Kerala 4. Gujarat P.S. Poti (28.9.1983) Kerala 5. Rajasthan P.K. Banerjee (29.10.1983) Calcutta 6. Calcutta Satish Chandra (29.11.1983) Allahabad 7. Patna S.S. Sandhanwalia (29.11.1983) Punjab and Haryana 8. Himachal Pradesh P.D. Desai (23.12.1983) Gujarat 9. Sikkim M.L. Shrimal (17.12.1983) Rajasthan 10. Madras M.N. Chandurkar (2.4.1984) Bombay Andhra Pradesh 11- Bombay K. Madhava Reddy (8.4.1984) 12. Gujarat P.R. Gokulakrishnan (21.3.1985) Madras [Translation] THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY Setting up of fertilizer factories in U.P. AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) The location of 1801. SHRI ZAINUL BASHER : W ill' the four gas-based plants proposedto be the Minister of CHEMICALS AND FER set up in Uttar Pradesh in the joint, Co TILIZERS be pleased to state : operative and Private Sectors is given (a) the names of the fertilizer factories below:— to be set up in Public Sector, Joint Sector and Private Sector, separetaly, out of the SI. No. Location Sector four fertilizer factories proposed to be set 1. Jagdishpur JOINT up in Uttar Pradesh; 2. Aonla COOPERATIVE (b) whether arrangements have been 3. Babrala PRIVATE made to lay pipe line to carry gas upto 4. Shahjahanpur The party which these factories in Uttar Pradesh; and would implement the project is (c) the time by which work will be still to be iden started in these factories ? tified. Written Anrwers CHAITRA 12. 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 178 (b) Arrangements for laying the pipeline Recruitment of Women in I.O.C. to carry gas upto these factories are under fitialisation. 1803. SHRI DHARAMPAL SINGH MALIK: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM (c) The implementation of Jagdishpur be pleased to state: and Aonla fertilizer projects has already commenced. The scheduled ‘zero date’ for (a) the total number of employees as on the remaining two fertilizer projects in U.P. 1st January, 1985 in the Indian Oil Corpo re given below: — ration all over the country; St. No, Location Zero date (b) the number of men and women in cach category; 1. Babrala 1-10-85 (c) whether women employees are. in a 2, Shahjahanpur 1-4-86 much less number as compared to men; (d) if so, the reasons therefor; [English] (e) whether Government propose to Linking of some cities of Haryana take steps to recruit more women employees with capital by S.T.D. system to till the gap between men and women employees; and 1802. SHRI DHARAMPAL SINGH MALIK : Will the Minister of COMMUNI (f) if not, the reasone therefore ? CATIONS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) whether there is any proposal under MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM ^SHRI consideration to connect by S.T.D. system NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a) 30,794. some more cities of Haryana with the capital during 1985-86 and 1986-87; (b) Men Women Total 6467 (b) if so, the details thereof; Officers category 6358 109 Workmen category 22912 1415 24327 (c) whether the nearest cities i.e. Gohana, Jind, Safidon, Ganaur, Samalkha 29270 1524 30794 will be linked by S.T.D. system with the capital; and (c) Yes, Sir. (d) if not, the reasons thereof ? (d) Recruitment for jobs in the Corpo THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ration is made on the basis of names spon MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS sored by Employment Exchanges and those (SHRI RAM NIWAS M1RDHA) : (a) Yes, received in response to advertisements. Sir. While there is no bar to women candidates being considered for any category of posts, (b) During 1985-86: Bhiwani, Sonepat it appears that in view of the nature of Rewari are likely to be connected to capital duties of the bulk of jobs in the oil industry Chandigarh for S.T.D. subject to availability and for sociological reasons, women have of long distance circuits. not been coming forward in adequate mea sure for the jobs. During 1986-87: Hissar is likely to be connectcd to capital Chandigarh for (e) & (f). There being no reservation or S.T.D. facility si bject to availability of long stipulation about preference for women in distance circuits. employment, no steps are considered feasi ble. (c) & (d), Jind, Gohana and Samalkha are proposed to be linked with State capital Recruitment of Women Employees In by S.T.D. There is no proposal at present Bharat Petroleum for linking Safidon and Ganaur with the capital for S.T.D. facility due to limited 1804. SHRI DHARAMPAL SINGH availability of switching and transmission MALIK : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM equipment. be pleased to state: 179 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 180 fa) the total number of employees as on (a) whether M/s. Union Carbide of the 1st January, 1985 in the Bharat Petro Bhopal was given a licence by the State leum, an undertaking of Government; Government to manufacture phosgene and methyl isocyanate gases; \b) the number of men and women in each category; (b) if so, whether the Union Govern ment’s prior approval was sought and (c) whether it is a fact that women obtained; and employees are in a much less number as compared to men; (c) if not, whether the licence was given (d) if so, the reasons therefor; by a central authority, taking all hazards into consideration ? (e) whether Government propose to take steps to recruit more women employees THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS and fill the gap between men and women AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY employees; and AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): fa) to (c). Indus (f) if not, the reasons therefor ? trial licences under the Industries (Develop ment & Regulation) Act, 1951 are issued by THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE the Central Government. M/s. Union MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI Carbide India Limited was issued an indus NAWAL K1SHORE SHARMA): (a) & (b). trial licence for the manufacture of MIC The total number of employees in the based pesticides. The industrial licence Bharat Petroleum Corporation Limited as stipulated, interalia, that the company on 1.1.85 is given below: . should take adequate steps to the satisfaction of the Government for the control of water, Category Total Men Women air and soil pollution. employees ------Management 1638 1554 84 Telephone Connections to Wait-Listed Clerical 1966 1610 356 Applicants in some Cities in Orissa Labour 4225 4219 6 1806. SHR1MATI JAYANTI PAT- NA1K : Will the Minister of COMMUNI Total 7829 7383 446 CATIONS be pleased to state : (c) Yes, Sir (a) the number of applicants for tele phone connections in Cuttack, Bhubanewar, (d) Recruitment for jobs in the Corpo Berhampur, Sambalpur and Rourkela in ration is made on the basis of names Orissa placed on the waiting list as on 31st sponsored by Employment Exchanges and December, 1984; and those received in response to advertisements. While there is no bar to women candidates (b) the steps taken to provide telephone being considered for any category of posts, connections to those applicants ? it appears that in view of the nature of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE duties of the bulk of jobs in the oil industry MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS and for sociological reasons, women have (SHRI RAM N1WAS MIRDHA) : (a) The not been coming forward in adequate number of applications pending for pro measure for these jobs. vision of telephone connections on 31st Dec., (e) & (0. There being no reservation or 1984 is given below :- stipulation about preference for women in City Waiting List employment, no steps are considered feasi 1. Cuttack 1155 ble. 2. Bhubanewar 948 Licence to M/s. Union Carbide 3. Berhampur 332 4. Sambalpur 51 1805. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND FER 5. Rourkela Plant. 151? TILIZERS be pleased to slate: Rourkela Township 48 181 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 182 (b) There are proposals to expand exis (c)l. Choudwar*Berhampur STD has been ting telephone exchanges to provide telephone provided on point to point basis. connection to the waiting applicants* subjet to availability of resources. 2. Paradeep--Bhubaneswar STD has been provided on point to point basis. S. T. D. Facilities In the District Head Quarters and Important Towns in Orissa Opening of new Branch Post Office in Police Stations in Midnapur District of 1807. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT- West Bengal NAIK : Will the Minister of COMMUNI CATIONS be pleased to state : 1808. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHER- JEE : Will the Minister of COMMUNICA (a) whether Government has taken steps TIONS be pleased to state : for providing STD facilities in the district headquarters and other important towns in (b) the number of applications for estab lishing new branch post offices in police Orissa during the Sixth* Five Year Plan; stations Panskura, Daspur, Debra, Pingla, Sabang and Keshpur of District Midnapur (b) if so, the names of the towns in that in West Bengal laying pending decisions as State which have been provided with STD on the 31st March, 1985; facilities in the above plan period; and (b) the number of new branch post (c) the details thereof ? offices opened in the above police stations during the last five years; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (c) the number of the outstanding appli (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) Yes, cations being considered favourably ? Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) Choudwar and Paradeep have been MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS provided with STD facilities during the Sixth (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) to (c). Five Year Plan, Information is given in the statement below:- No. of applications No. of BPOs opened No. of outstanding lying pending during last five years applications being considered favourably Panskura 18 3 6 Daspur 2 2 1 Debra 3 3 2 Pingla 4 — 2 Sabong 4 I 1 Keshpur 3 1 1 Manufacture of motor cycles with (b) if so, the name of the places in the Japanese Collaboration country where such motor cycle manufac turing units are proposed to be located; 1809. KUMARI PUSHPA DEVI : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY AND COM PANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (c) whether the above manufacturing units will be directed to set up their factory (a) whether some Automobile Industries in backward States like Madhya Pradesh; like Baj^j Auto etc.t are going to manufac and ture motor-cycles in the country with Japan’s collaboration; (d) the guidelines proposed to be sent to 18J Written Angers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 184 those manufacturing units Tor selectding the MMAD KHAN) : (a) and (b). Four major location of the units ? 2-wheeler manufacturers have been granted THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE approvals for manufacture of motor cycles in collaboration with various Japanese com MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHA panies as detailed below. Mame of the Name of the Location Indian company. Japanese collaborator Bajaj Auto Ltd. Kawasaki Heavy Akurdi and Industries Ltd. Aurangabad. (Maharashtra) Escorts Ltd. Yamaha Motor Co. Ltd Surajpur Indl. Area Dadri Distt. Gaziabad. (U. P.) Hero Honda Honda Motor Co. Ltd. Dharuhera Distt. Motors Ltd. Mohindergarh (Haryana) Ind-Suzuki Suzuki Motor Co. Teh. Hosur Distt. Motor cvcles Ltd. Dharampuri (T.Nadu) (c) No, Sir. (c) Government of India have been in favour of the Indian Ocean being maintained (d) It is for the manufacturers to decide as a zone of peace and have taken several on location of their factories in accordance diplomatic ipitiatives to this end. ' with the declared locational policy of the Government. Proposal to Equip every branch Post Office in United States Naval Base in Diego Garcia rural areas with Public Call Office facilities 1810. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAT : Will 1811. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI : Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be state : pleased to state : (a) the measure so far taken by Govern (a) whether there is any proposal to equip ment for safeguarding the Western Coast; each branch-post office in rural areas with Public Call Office facilities; (b) whealher in Indian Ocean, Diego Garcia has been made a naval base by the (b) if so, the details thereof; and United Stales of America; and (c) the steps taken by Government to (c) if not, the reasons therefor ? curb the activities of United States of America in the Indian Ocean ? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI (SHRI RAM N1WAS MIRDHA): (a) to Statement (iii) Non-Departmental LDPT agents may be employed wherever necessary, MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS either due to non-availability of P & T BOARD Post Offices or where the working hours of the Post Offices is inade Revised Policy for Opening o f Long Distance quate. The selection of Non-Depart- Public Telephones (LDPTs/Combined Offices mental LDPT agents will be decided (COS) in Rural Areas by the G. M. T. of the Territorial Circle. The present policy of the Department for opening of Long Distance Public Telephones/ (iv) The remuneration for the Non-De- Combined Offices on loss basis during the 6th partmental LDPT agent may be 40 Plan period (Annexure-p, has been under (forty) paise per call subject to a consideration of the P & T Board for some maximum of Rs. 250/- (Two time. The studies undertaken in this regard Hundred and Fifty) per month and reveal that the policy of opening long dis the working hours of the LDPT tance public telephones without stipulating may be atleast 8 hours. The remu minimum revenue on the basis of population neration so received shall not cons will result in disparity in the extension of this titute the main source of income to facility in the rural areas, particularly in hilly the LDPT agent except in the case and sparsely populated regions of the country. of handicapped persons. After a careful review of the present policy and with a view to ensuring a more uniform The P & T Board have also directed that penetration to telecom, facilities in the rural the entire country may be diveded into clus areas of all States with greater emphasis on ters of villages forming hexagonal areas (with reliability of servicc, the P & T Board has a symmetrical hexagon of 5 Kms. side), decided as follows : leaving out, of course, areas which are unin habited, like mountainous regions, rivers, (i) While the present policy, as detail lakes, deserts etc. and that the village to ed in Annex.-1 will continue, the serve as the focal point in each cluster, where establishment of LDPTs accessible the LDPT can be located may be indentified. within 5 kms. of most habitations The task of identifying village clusters for in the country may be adopted as a the establishment of LDPTs to achieve the policy objective to be achieved pro 5 Kms, accessibility objective has been ent gressively by 1990 beginning from rusted to the National Council of Applied the current year. Stipulation of Economic Research (NCAER), whose report minimum revenue as a pre-condition with detailed maps, would be made available for providing an LDPT may be re to the Circles for planning purposes. moved for LDPTs required for meeting this objective of spatial dis On receipt of the detailed maps with the tribution. requisite data for location of LDPTs for the village clusters as per study by NCAER, (ii) Multi-Access Radio Telephone Sys Heads of circles will arrange to draw up a tem may be adopted as the techno detailed annual programme for opening of logy to establish LDPTs to improve future LDPTs both on open wire system and reliability and availability in hilly, Multi-Access Radio System with a view to coastal, forest and desert areas as implement the above decisions of the P & T well as tribal and scheduled areas Board. and other regions where power in duction makes the open-wire line The Project Estimates for the opening unsuitable and in plains where the of LDPTs under the Multi-Access Radio place is connected by road beyond System should, however, continue to be re a distance (route length) of 20 kms. ferred to the Directorate for the purpose of and in all cases, where the Multi allotment of equipment etc. Access Rural Radio System tends to be cost-effective also. 187 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1685 Written Answers 188 • Annexnrc-1 Policy for Provision o f PCOs on Loss Categories o f stations 1. District Headquarters. 2. Sub-Divisional Headquarters. 3. Tehsil Headquarters. 4. Sub-Tehsil Headquarters. 5. Block Headquarters. 6. Places with a population of 5000 or more in ordinary areas and 2500 or more back- wrd or hilly areas. Condition for Provision of Public Call Offices Condition for Provision of Combined Offices Will be provided progressively irrespective of Will be provided progressively irrespective of loss and without any condition of minimum loss and without any condition of minimum revenue. revenue. 7. Places with Police Stations under the charge of an officer of the rank of a Sub-Ins pector of Police or above. Condition for Provision of Public CaU Offices Condition for Provision of Combined Offices The anticipated revenue should be at least The anticipated revenue should be atleast 25% of the ARE (Annual recurring expendi- 25% of the ARE in ordinary areas, and 15% ture) in ordinary areas, and 15% of ARE in of ARE in backward areas and 10% of ARE backward areas, and 10% of ARE in hilly in hilly areas, areas. 8. Out of the way places. (a) Should be beyond 40 Kms. (radial dis (a) Should be beyond 20 Kms. (radial dis tance) from an existing exchange. tance) from an existing Telegraph Office. (b) The anticipated revenue should be atleast (b) The anticipated revenue should be atleast 25% of ARE in ordinary areas, 15% of ARE 25% of ARE in ordinary areas, 15% of ARE in backward areas and 10% of ARE in hilly in backward areas and 10% of the ARE in areas. hilly areas. (c) The anticipated loss should not exceed Rs. 2000/- p.a. in ordinary areal and Rs. 5000/- p.a. in backward/hilly areas. 9. Tourist/pilgrimage centres/agricultural/irrigation/power project sites/townships. Condition for Provision of Public Call Offices Condition for Provision of Combined Offices (a) The anticipated revenue should be atleast (a) The anticipated revenue should be atleast 25% of ARE in ordinary areas, 15% of ARE 25% of ARE in ordinary areas, 15% of ARE in backward areas and 10% of ARE in hilly in backward areas, and 10% of ARE in hilly areas, areas, (b) The anticipated loss should not exceed Rs. 2000/- p.a. in ordinary areas and R». 5000/- p.a. in backward/hilly areas. 189 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 190 10. All other stations. Condition for Provision of Public Call Offices Condition for Provision of Combined Offices On the basis of financial viability or in the On the basis of financial viability or in the case of loss on rent and guarantee basis. case of loss on rent and guarantee basis. Note : 1. (a) For considering the population figures, the population of the town or village alone should be taken into account and not that of a group of towns or villages except in the case of tribal areas where a group of villages within a radius of 10 Kms. from a central village, can be considered. No two Public Telephones can be opened under this relaxed condition within a distance of 10 Kms. from each other. (b) When indentifying important central villages for provision of Public Tele phones, preference will be given in the following order : (i) Tribal Development Block Headquarters. (ii) Places where LAMPS (Large Sized Multipurpose Co-operative Societies) are established; and (iii) Centres identified by the local Tribal Development Departments for development of rural industries and/or irrigation projects for intensive agricultural development. 2. No Telegraph Office should be opened on loss if another Telegraph Office is already working within 8 Kms. of the proposed office. Petro-Chemical Plants One HDPE plant—in Maharashtra; Two synthetic rubber plants—one 1812. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI : Will each in Gujarat and Uttar Pradesh; the Minister of PETROLEUM be pleased to One acrylonitrile plants —in Gujarat, state : One LAB plant— in Gujarat; (a) the number of Petro-chemical plants Fourteen nylon plants—two in Guja working in India at present ; rat, six in Maharashtra, one in (b) the State-wise break-up of these Madhya Pradesh, one in Punjab, plants; two in Rajasthan, one in Tamil Nadu and one in Uttar Pradesh: (c) tne details of new petro-chemical Fifteen polyester plants—three in plants under survey at present; and Gujarat, one in Madhya Pradesh, (d) the likely date by which naw plants six in Maharashtra, two in Raja are to be commissioned ? sthan, one in Tamil Nadu and two in Uttar Pradesh; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI Two acrylic fibre plants—one each NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a) and in Gujarat and Rajasthan. (b). Amongst the major Petro chemicals plants in the country at present are : (c) New Petrochemicals plants are in different stages : Three naphtha crackers—one in Gujarat and two in Maharashtra; These include a nephta cracker in Three DMT plants —one each in West Bengal, an aromatics project in Assam, Gujarat and Maharashtra; Uttar Pradesh, cne PTA plant, two One caprolactam plant—in Gujarat; caprolactam plants, two synthetic Six PVC plants—one in Gujarat, rubber plants, two LAB plants, six two in Maharashtra, one in Raja polyester plants and thirteen nylon sthan and two in Tamil Nadu; plants. Three LDPE plants—one each in Gujaratt Maharashtra and West Od) The likely dates of completion of Bengal; these plants cannot be indicated at this stage. 191 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answrs 192 ONGC’s Expertise Sought by Developing and regulations under the Factories Act and Countries its implementation, particularly with reference to industries using hazardous operations and 1813. PROF. RAMKRISHNA MORE : processes including highly toxic substances. Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be ple They have also been requested to set up ased to state : Task Forces/Study Teams to review the existing safety measures in factories connected (a) whether several developing countries with chemicals and hazardous substances. have sought ONGC’s expertise in their gas Government have also identified 20 indus and oil exploration ventures; and tries causing high pollution and have in (b) if so, the detalis thereof ? respect of these industries prescribed special conditions for site clearance from the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE environmental angle and installation of MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI appropriate equipments for the prevention NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a) and and control of pollution. (b). The following countries have sought ONGC’s expertise in their activities for ex [Translation] ploration and exploitation of hydrocarbons : Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Trible Iraq : Reservoir studies of Ainzalah Oil Employees in Baroda Petro-Chemicals field; Abu Dhabi : Study of Juraissic sequence and 1815. SHRI C.D. GAMIT : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be pleased to Triassic sequence; state : Sri Lanka : Basin evaluation of Gulf of Mannar and Palk Bay Strait; (a) the number of Class I, II, III and IV employees recruited in the Boroda Petro Seychelles : Marine Seismic Survey in Sey Chemicals during the period from 1982 to chelles waters; and 1984 and the details thereof; Malagasy : Training of its nationals in vari (b) the number of persons belonging to ous fields of hydrocorbons. Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes among them; Steps to check recnrrencc of tragedies (c) the quota reserved for these castes like Bhopal gas leakage and the number of posts filled in each cate gory so far under the quota ; 1814. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI : SHRI AJIT KUMAR SAHA : (d) the reasons for not completing the Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND quota resercved for the Scheduled Castes FERTILIZERS be pleased to state : and Scheduled Tribes; (a) the effect of Bhopal tragedy on (e) the time by which the remaining chemical industrial belts; quota would be completed; (b) whether Union Government have (f) whether any special steps ire being taken any safety measures in such sensitive taken in this regard; and areas to prevent repetition of suchtragedies; and (g) if so, the details thereof. (c) the steps taken so far to check recur THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE rence of such tragedies in future ? MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA)»(a) and (b). THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS For the purpose of implementing reservation AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY orders, the posts have been classified in AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI VEE- Groups A,B,C, and D. The information RENDRA PATIL) : (a) to (c). All the State regarding total number of employees recrui Governments have been advised to under ted by the Indian Petrochemicals Corpora take a thorough review of the existing rules tion Baroda and SC/ST amongst them 193 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 194 during the period from 1982 to 1984 furni- Presidential directives for increasing the *hed in the statement I attached. number of SC/ST employees. (c) The prescribed percentage of reser Some of the steps that have been takea vation for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled by the company to increase the representa Tribes and their existing percentage to total tion of SC/ST in the services are as follows : employees is furnished in the statement U. 1. A training scheme was approved for attached. SC/ST candidates in the Year 1977 for a period of four Years (1978-1981). Under this (d) The Corporation has already achiev- scheme, 85 persons belonging to SC/ST were ved nearly twice the prescribed percentage in trained and absorbed in regular employment respect of SC candidates in Group ‘C’ and of the Corporation. *D’ posts. The main reasons for the short fall in respect of Scheduled Caste (in group 2. SC/ST candidates are offered relaxa tion in age, and minimum prescribed standard A and B posts) and Scheduled Tribe candi dates are as under: while recruiting trainees under Apprentice Act and under various other training schemes The technology used in all the plants of of the company. As on 31.12.1984 73 SC the Corporation is sophisticated which re and 24 ST candidates were undergoing train quires specialised skill and experience. ing After the successful completion of their Candidates with such skills are not available training the trainees will be absorbed in the even after relaxing the prescribed standards. company. (e), (f) and (g). Efforts are being made 3. The Company has introduced a to locate more and more SC/ST candidates scheme for the award of scholarships for as and when vacancies are filled by direct SC/ST students undergoing graduate/diploma recruitment. Several steps have been taken courses in chemical/mechanical/electrical/ in accordance with the provisions of the instrumentation engineering. Statement-I Statement Referred to in reply to part (a) and (b) o f the Lok Sabha uustarred question no . 1815 showing the total number o f employees recruitcd during the year 1982 to 1984 and number o f Scheduled Casies and Scheduled Tribes amongst them 1982 1983 1984 -A , r"~ —fc i— " -A, . -i GROUP Total SC ST Total SC ST Total SC ST 1 2 3 ' 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 A 66 11 ... 47 9 2 75 7 5 B 3 1 ■...... • . . C 171 9 2 263 30 9 353 36 14 (Excluding sweepers selection grade) C • • • • ■ • (Sweepers selection grade) D 62 4 3 485 74 2 (Excluding sweepers and sweeper-lower grade) D ... • •• 19 19 1 I (Sweepers and Sweepers- lower grade) Note : Group A : Posts carrying the scales of pay of Rs. 1050-2260 to Rs. 3500-4000. Group B : Posts carrying the scales of pay of Rs. 860-1840. Group C : Posts carrying the scales of pay of Rs. 410-775 to Rs. 730-1480. Group D : Posts carrying the scales of pay of Rs. 290-445 and Rs. 360-615. (excluding sweepers and sweepers-L.G.) Group D : Posts carrying the scales of pay of Rs. 360-615 and Rs. 290-445. (sweepers and sweepers-L.G.) 195 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 196 Statement-II Statement referred to in reply to part {c) o f the Lok Sabha unstarred question no. 1815 showing the prescribed percentage o f reservations for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes and their existing percentage to total employees as on 1-1-J9S5 Prescribed percentage of reservation for SCs/STs in Existing percentage of SCs respect of and STs to total employees i f " 1 A • GROUP SC ST SC ST 1 2 3 4 5 A 16 2/3% 7 1/2% 8.13% 1.94% B 16 2/3% 7 1/2% 8.31% 0.83% C 7% 14% 13.87% 4.24% (excluding Sweepers-selection grade) C 7% 14% 100.00% ... (Sweepers selection grade) D 7% 14% 14.46% 7.79% (excluding sweepers and sweepers-lower grade) D 7% 14% 100.00% ... sweepers and sweepers-lower grade) [English] security of the country and take appropriate steps to ensure full defence preparedness at Supply of ALM-9L Air to Air Missiles all times. It will not be in public interest to to Pakistan by U.S.A. disclose details. 1816. SHRI K. PRADHANI : SHRI LAKSHMAN MALL1CK: [Translation] SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: Production of Polypropylene Filament Yarn Will the Minister of DEFENCE be plea 1817. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH : Will sed to state : the Minister of PETROLUM be pleased to state : (a) whether the United States of America is supplying ALM-9L air-to-air missiles to (a) the State-wise licence capacity and Pakistan to be fitted on the F-16 combat air production of the poly-propylene filament craft already delivered to that country; yarn and the details thereof; (b) if so, whether it poses a serious threat (b) the State-wise demand of this yarn to the country's security; and in the country; and (c) the steps being taken in this regard? (c) the production and demand of this yam in the country and if the demand is THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI more than the production, the steps being P. V. NARAS1MHA RAO): (a) Government taken by Government to increase its have seen press reports to this effect. production ? (b) and (c). Government carefully moni THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE tor all developments having a bearing on the MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI 197 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 198 NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a) The (c) if so, the details thereof ? State-wise capacity for production of poly propylene, for which letters of intent/indus THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE trial licences/DGTD registration have been MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM. (SHRI issued is as follows : NAWAL KISHORE SHARM A); (a) tc (c). The target of crude production and details of Alame o f the State Capacity (tonnes/ the exploration programme during the annum) Seventh Five Year Plan would be available only after the finaJisation of the Seventh Gujarat 7000 Plan. Haryana 4000 Rajasthan 4000 Implementation of Resolutions passed by Uttar Pradesh 4000 Hindi Advisory Committee of Ministry Maharashtra 3000 o f Defence Punjab 1000 1819. SHRI KRISHAN PRATAP Commercial production has not yet started. SINGH : Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state: (b) Estimate of State-wise demand is not available. (a) the number of meetings ■ of Hindi Advisory Committee of his Ministry held (c) Adequate capacity has already been during the year 1984; approved to meet the estimated demand of 15,000 tonnes/annum by 1989-90. (b) the resolutions passed in these meet ings; and Target for Production of Oil in Seventh Plaa (c) the details in regard to implementa 1818. SHRI KRISHAN PRATAPtion of these resolutions ? SINGH : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI (a) the target fixed in regard to produc P.V. NARS1MHA RAO) : (a) to kc). During tion of oil during the Seventh Five Year the year 1984, the Hindi Salahakar Samiti of Plan; the Ministry of Defence met once, i. e. on 1st May, 1984. A statement indicating deci (b) whether Government have formula sions/recommendations made by the Com ted any scheme for intensive exploration of mittee and action taken for their implementa oil; and tion is enclosed. Statement Statement referred to the answer to the Lok Sahha Unstarred Question No. 1819 to be answered on the 2nd April , 1985, regarding implementation o f recommeudation passed by Hindi Advisory Committee of the Ministry Action taken on various decisions/recommendations of the Hindi Salahakar Samiii in its meeting held on 1st May, 1984 is indicated against each of them > SI. No„ Recommendations Action taken 1 2 3 1. The provisions of the Official Langu- The observations of the Samiti were coin ages Act and the rules made there- municated for compliance to all concerned, under should be complied with. The improvement in the progressive intro- duction of Hindi in official use, is being closely monitored and watched. 199 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 200 1 2 3 2. Notifying offices under Rules 10 of As on 1st May, 1984* i.e. the date on which Official Language Rules, 1976. the meeting was held, 523 offices out of 1193 offices (excluding units and formations of three Services) were notified. The number of such offices notified has now increased to 810. 3. A post of Director (OL) in the Minis There is complete ban on creation of new try of Dcfence and a post of Principal posts. As soon as the ban is lifted, a pro Hindi Officer in the Naval HQrs may posal will be initiated. be created. 4. Question papers for entrance exami The matter is under consideration of the nations of NDA/IMA should be Deptt. of Official Languages and the Deptt. bilingual. of Personnel and Administrative reforms. 5. Hindi knowing staff be asked to fill This was reviewed in consultation with the diglot forms in Hindi. Service HQrs and all concerned have been directed to encourage officers and staff to fill diglot forms in Hindi. 6. Hindi typing/Hindi Short-hand/Hindi It has been decided that these competitions noting/drafting/Hindi Essay competi be held by all concerned in their respective tions may be organised. organisation while celebrating Hindi week or Hindi Day in a year. This is being complied with by all concerned. 7. At least 2-3 Sections in the Ministry Besides Hindi Sections of the Ministry, four as well as Service HQrs etc should more Sections have been selected for doing be selected for doing most of the most of their work in Hindi. Similar action work in Hindi only. has been taken by Service HQrs also. 8. Pin-Point typwrilers in Devanagari This has been communicated to all concer script be purchased. ned for compliance. 9. The Scientific Adviser to the Raksha A brief note as approved by Scientific Mantri should be requested to pre Adviser to Raksha Mantri has been sent to pare a brief note on the feasibility of the Department of Official Languages. It the use of Devanagari computers for indicates the efforts beings made for deve the guidance of the Ministry and the lopment of multilingual Computer System Deptt. of Official Languages. by various Government and private agen cies. There are already non research projects sponsored by Department of Science and Technology, Department of Electronics and University Grants Commission in various institutions or development of methodo logies for translation from one language to another. (English) 1982-83, 1983-84 and 1984-85 respectively; and Companies Violating provisions of M.R.T.P. ACT. (b) the action taken against those 1820. SHRI PRiYA RAN JAN DAS companies ? MUNSI : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE state : MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF (a) the details of Companies which MOHAMMAD KHAN) : (a) and (b). The violated the provisions of MRTP Act during particulars regarding the parties to whom 201 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 202 show-cause/prosecution notices had been (c) the details thereof ? issued since 1-4-1982 for violation of the provisions of the M. R. T. P. Act, 1969, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE together with the action taken in such cases, MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM are given in the Statement laid on the PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM Table of the House. (Placed in Library. MAD KHAN ) : (a) Yes, Sir. A few appli See No. LT 78/85) cations for grant of Industrial Licences/ Registrations with Directorate General of Setting up of Cement Plant in Orissa Technical Development for setting up cement plants were received from the State Govern 1821. SHRI RADHAKANTA DIGAL ment: agencies of Orissa, Will the Minister of Industry and Company Affairs be pleased to state : (b) and (c). The details of the sites indicated and the capacity in respect of In (a) whether Government of Orissa had dustrial Licences/Letters of Intent/Registra sent a proposal for setting up of some cement tion with Directorate General of Technical industry in that State; Development granted in favour of such (b) if so, the sites selected in that State agencies are given below : to set up Cement Plant; and S. No. Name of the State Govt. Location Capacity (LTPA) Agencies 1. Industrial Promotion and Sundergarh Dist. 0.66 Investment Corpn. of Orissa Ltd. 2. —do— Koraput Dist. 0.66 3. Industrial Development Sambhalpur Dist. 1.65 Corpn. of Orissa Ltd. (Substantial Expansion) 4. — do— — do— 4.35 5. Orissa Mining Corpn. Ltd. Korapur Dist. 0.35 {Translation] (c) whether Government propose to open the said office in Faizabad ? Opening of Office of Divisional Engineer (Telephones) in Faizabad Distt. of U. P. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 1822. SHRI N1RMAL KHATRI : Will(SHRI RAM N1WAS MIRDHA) : (a) Yes, the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be Sir, in Faizabad there is no Office of Divisio pleased to state : nal Engineer (Phones) but only a Sub-Divi sional Officer (Telegraphs). - (a) whether Government are aware that in Faizabad district of U. P., which is also (b) The criteria for Opening Divisional the Divisional Headquarter, there is no Office Engineer’s Office is given in the Statement of Divisional Engineer (Telephones) while attached. other Divisional Headquarters in the State are having such offices; (c) No, Sir, present workload of Faizabad does not justify. (b) the criteria foropening Divisional Engineer’s office; and 203 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 204 Statement Standards for Divisional Engineer Phones 1. Normal Areas A. Exchanges having Equipped Capacity of Divisional Engineers in units (i) 99 lines and less 15 per exchange (ii) tOO—499 lines 35 per exchange (iii^ 400—999 lines 100 per exchange (iv) 1000— 1999 lines 360 per exchange (v) 2000—2999 lines (vi) 3000— 4999 lines 640 per exchange (vii) 5000—lines and above 1175 per exchange B. Direct Exchange Lines 0.25 per working connection C. Special Service Positions including Auto-Manual Positions (i) Related to (i) to *iv) above, 2 per position (ii) Related to (v) to (vii) above. 4 per position D. STD/SLOD/MLOD Circuits both 1 per Circuits incoming and outgoing E. Telex exchange 5 per line equipped eapacity. F. Telex subscriber, rented and Departmental T. P. Circuits G. PBX/PABX with equipped capacity of 99 2 per exchange extns. or less (ii) 100 extensions and above 6 per exchange H. Extensions of all types 0.1 per extension J. N.E. Lines/Private Wires/L.D.P.C.Os, 1 per line K. Tranks/Telegraph alignments (i) C-8,NCJ 0.5 per K.M. (ii) Other alignment 0.4 per K..M. L. Telegraph Offices : (i) C. T. Os. 25 per office (ii) D. T. Os. 12 per office (iii) Combined offices 0.3 per office M. Carrier/Repeater/VFT Systems 15 per system. N. Trunk Exchanges with: (i; 9 traffic handling positions or less 15 per position 205 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 206 (ii) Record/Enquiry position in 2 per position the above exchanges. (iii) 10 to 15 traffic handling positions. 25 per position. (iv) 16 traffic handling positions and 35 per position above. (v) Record/Enquiry positions in 4 per position. (iii) and (iv) above O. Subordinate charges 170 per Gr. *B’ Engineering charge i. e. SDOT, SDOP, AE. (Indoor) A.E. (Trunks) P. Sanctioned staff (including E.Ss) 2.5 per post. Q. Constant worklaod 1350 per Division Assessment of Divisional Engineers will OYT, Special, Commercial, Public Call Office, have to be made only on the variable wor Departmental Call Office and Government kload i. e. the total workload on ‘A’ to ‘Q’ cases with charges for each; of the standards should be divided by 6250. (b) the detailed procedure for transfer of A Telegraph Engineering Division is telephones under each category as in (a) bifurcated when the total workload on DE’s above; scale exceeds 11250 units net of constant such that neither of the two resultant divi (c) whether the functioning timing for sions will have workload less than 4065 units P.COs and D.P.C.Os are at the whims of net of constant on D. Es’ scale. persons in whose premises it has been in stalled; and II. Weightage for Difficult Terrain For difficult terrain 25% on units at (d) if so, the criteria for functioning tim i. e. terrain accepted (a) and (b^ above, ings of these connections and whether connec as difficult by the tions under these categories can be converted Government of into an individuals name after installation ? India. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE This is added to the units calculated as MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS per ‘A’ to ‘Q’ above. (SHRI RAM N1WAS MIRDHA) : (a) Re quired information is given in statement atta III. Backward Areas : ched. An allowance of 4 units per new L = DPCO connection opened during previous (b) For transfer of telephones sanctioned year is provided for Divisions in the under OYT, Non-OYT-Genera! and Non- backward area (i. e.) Divisions which do OYT-special categories, an application is to not have an exchange above 500 lines be made with the concerned telephone autho equipped capacity. rities along with the required documents. However, Private and Departmental public telephones can not be transferted. [English] Procedure for Release of Telephone (c) & (d). No, Sir. The timings for Connections which private public telephones and Depart 1823. SHRI YOGESHWAR PRASAD :mental public telephones remain open for Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS public use are prescribed by the sanctioning be pleased to state : authority depending upon the place and loca tion of installation. These telephones are not ta) the detailed procedure for release of converted into an individual’s name after telephone connections under General, Non- installation. 207 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 208 Statement Statement showing procedure for release o f telephone connections under various categories Demands for Government telephone connections are registered generally in OYT-Special category. Telephone for commercial purposes can be registered either in OYT category or ‘in Non-OYT’ category, depending upon eligibility. At the time of bulk release in an exchange, telephone connections are released in the following ratio OYT-General and OYT-Special 40% Non-OYT-General 40% Non-OYT-Special 20% 2. The following deposite is to be made for registration under various categories : (a) Own Your Telephone 10,000 lines and above Capacity 1000 lines and above but Below 1000 lines of Telephone System below 10,000 lines capacity capacity Rs. 8,000 Rs. 6,000 Rs. 5,000 (b) General and Special category Metered Exchanges Flat Rate Exchanges 10,000 lines Below 10000 100 lines 100 lines Manual over 20 Manual of 20lines and above lines and and lines providing or less providing above below restricted hours restricted hours of service of service Rs. Rs. Rs. Rs. Rs Rs. 1,000 800 1,000 100 100 100 3. Departmental Public telephones are opened at the initiative of the Department of Telecommunications, depending upon the exchange capacity and the need for public tele phones at places where these will be secure and easily accesible to general public. Local or trunk call charges are to be paid by the user. Private Public telephones at non-residential private premises can be opened subject to feasibility and suitability. A security deposit of Rs. 500 is to be deposited by the hirer. A minimum monthly revenue of Rs. 100 Coin Box type and Rs. 200 for an attended type Public telephone is to be guaranteed by the hirer. 209 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answer s 210 Legal aid provided to people fa Bihar 5. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) District Legal Aid Committee, 1824. SHRI YOGESHWAR PRASAD : Aurangabad. Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased to state : 6. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) District Legal Aid Committee, Dultan ganj (Palamu). (a) whether Government have set up free legal aid centres in each state; 7. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) District Legal Aid Committee, (b) if so, the number of such centres set Hazaribagh. up in the Bihar, with details of location, dis trict-wise; 8. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) District Legal Aid Committee, (c) whether the free legal aid provided Bhagalpur. by these centres is available to people of all 9. Chairman (Judicial Commissioner) communities, irrespective of castes, creed and District Legal Aid Committee, Ranchi. colour; and 10. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) (d) if so, the number of people in Bihar District Legal Aid Committee, Dhanbad State and in Chatra sub-division who have been provided such assistance and also Sche 11. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) duled Castes and Tribal people, separately ? District Legal Aid Committee, Dumka. 12. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE District Legal Aid Committee, Munger. MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ) : (a) Free Legal 13. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) Aid Centres have been set up in most of the District Legal Aid Committee, Katihar. States by the State Governments concerned. 14. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) District Legal Aid Committee, Purnea. (b) A Statement based on the informa tion received from the State Government is 15. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) attached. District Legal Aid Committee, Saharsa. 16. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) (c) Yes, Sir. District Legal Aid Committee,Begusarai. (d) 669 persons including 26 in Chatra 17. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) sub-division have been provided such assis District Legal Aid Committee, tance. The caste-wise break-up is not avai Samastipur. lable at present with the State Government. 18. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) District Legal Aid Committee, Statement Darbhanga. List o f District and High Court Legal Aid 19. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) Committees in Bihar District Legal Aid Committee, Madhubani 1. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) 20 Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) District Legal Aid Committee, Patna. District Legal Aid Committee, 2. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) District Legal Aid Committee, Gaya, Muzaffarpur. 3. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) 21. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge; District Legal Aid Committee, Sasaram District Legal Aid Committee, (Rohtas) Sitamadhi. 4. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) 22. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) District Legal Aid Committee, Bhojpur District Legal Aid Committee, Besali (Ara), (Hazipur), 211 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 212 23. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) Participation of private Indian capital District Legal Aid Committee, Motihari. in on shore drilling for oil 24. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) 1826. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Will District Legal Aid Committee, Betia. the Minister of PETROLEUM be pleased to state : 25. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) District Legal Aid Committee, Saran (Chappra). (a) whether Government have finally decided to permit private Indian capital to 26. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) enter the field of on-shore drilling for oil; District Legal Aid Committee, Sivan. (b) whether a collaboration agreement 27. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) has already been concluded for this purpose District Legal Aid Committee, Giridih. between the Modis and a foreign multinatio nal company; and 28. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) District Legal Aid Committee, Singbhum (c) if so, particulars of the same? (Chaibasa). 29. Chairman (District and Sessions Judge) THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE District Legal Aid Committee, Nalanda MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI (Bihar Sariff). NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a) Yes, 30. Chairman, Patna High Court Legal Aid Sir. Committee, High Court, Patna. (b) and (c). M /s Modi Industries Ltd. 31. Chairman, Ranchi High Court Legal have proposed a collaboration with M/s Santa Aid Committee, Ranchi High Court Fe International Corporation for rendering Bench, Ranchi. drilling services. This collaboration agree ment has not yet been taken on record by Appointment of Three Officers simultaneously the Government. as Vice-Chief of Army Staff 1825. SHRI 1NDRAJIT GUPTA : Will Oil Production During Seventh Five Year the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to Plan state : (a) whether three officers have been 1827. SHR1MATI MADHURI SINGH : simultaneously appointed as Vice-Chief of Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be plea Army StafT; sed to state : (b) if so, how their duties and responsi (a) whether the Oil and Natural Gas bilities and their ranking inter se, have been Commission propose to double its oil pro defined; duction during the Seventh Five Year Plan; (c) whether this is the first instance of (b) if so, the details of the steps proposed there being more than . one Vice-Chief of to be taken by the Oil and Natural Gas Army StafT; and Commission to double its production; and (a) if so, the grounds for its jurisdiction? (c) other details in this regard? THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO) : (a) to (d). There THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE is only one appointment of Vice Chief of the MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI Army Staff in the Army Headquarters. Two NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a) to (c). other officers have bf*en given recently the The details of exploration programme as well status and emoluments of the Vice Chief of as targets uf crude oil production during the the Army Staff in their respective present Seventh Five Year Plan by ONGC will be appointments without any chan8c *n their available only after the fmalisation of the duties. Seventh Plan. 213 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 214 Improvement in Telecommunication Services in availability of funds* in Tribal and backward Tribal Areas of Orissa areas of Orissa are proposed to ensure quic ker delivery of mails. 1828. SHRI K. PRADHANI : Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : Manufactured production and assembly of MIG Aircraft at H.A.L., Orissa (a) the steps proposed to be taken during 1829. SHRI K. PRADHANI : Will the 1985-86 to improve communications in the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state : tribal and backward areas of Orissa; (a) whether the licensed production of (b) the particulars of Telephone Ex the latest Soviet fighter aricraft MlCi-29 in changes proposed to be automatised, the cities phases is to be undertaken at the Nasik - to be linked on STD with Bhubaneswar and bascd factory of the Hindustan Aeronautics other places inside and outside Orissa; Limited, (c) the new Telephone Exchanges/Tele lb) with India having already acquired graph Offices and Post Offices to be set up; MIG-27, the time by which the full-fledged and production of this aircraft is likely to be (d) the effective steps to be taken to taken up; and ensure quick delivery of mail in the tribal areas of the State? (c) what part of the manufacture, production and assembly of these two types THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE of MIG will be assigned to the Orissa Unit MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS of the HAL, whose capacity is not at present (SHRI RAM N1WAS MIRDHA) : (a) being fully utilised ? Steps are being taken to open more and more telephone exchanges/L.D. Public telephones/ THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI Telegraph offices (Combined Offices) during P.V. NARASIMHA RAO: (a) to (c).Produc 1985-86 to improve communication services tion of MIG-27 aircraft at HAL Nasik in the tribal and backward areas of Orissa Division is under way and the programme adopting hexagonal and other liberalised poli is proceeding according to schedule. Capacity cies applicable to such areas. of Koraput Division of HAL is being fully utilised. (b) Three Telephone Exchanges namely (1) Balasore in backward area (2) Jeypore No decision has so far been taken to an tribal area and (3) Sambalpur in ordinary manufacture any other aircraft at Nasik area proposed for automatisation in 1985-86. Division. It will not be in the public interest The cities namely Balasore and Bhadrak are to disclose further details. proposed to be linked on point to point STD with Bhubaneswar and Cuttack. Point to Supply of Petrol and Diesel Oil for Agri pomt STD link is also proposed from cultural purposes at Subsidised Rates Paradeep to Cuttack. 1830. SHRI AN ANT PRASAD SETHI : At present there is no STD proposal for Will the Minister of PETROLIEUM be places outside Orissa. pleased to state: (/c) 30 Telephone Exchanges and 150 (a) whether Government have made any Long Distance Public Telephones/Telegraph assessment regarding the annual requirement Offices in Orissa (out of which 10 Telephone of petrol and petroleum products for agricul Exchanges and 60 Long Distance Publie Tele tural purposes; phones/ Combined Offices are in tribal and backward areas) are proposed for opening (b) whether there is any proposal under during 1985-86. 45 Post Offices are also pro Governments consideration to supply petrol posed to be opened. and diesel oil at subsidised rales for agricul tural purposes; and (d) Appointment of 23 Departmental Delivery Agents during 1985-86, subjcct to (c) if so, the details in this regard? 215 Written Anwers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 216 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) the number of persons in the waiting MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI list for new telephone connections in Faiza- NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA): (a) Mainly bad town, (Uttar Pradesh'; High Speed Dissel Oil (HSD) and, to a (b) whether Government are taking any lesser extent, Light Diesl Oil (LDO) are measures to solve the problem of these used in the Agricultural Sector, basically people; for operating tractors, harvesters, power (c) whether there is a proposal to set up tillers and pump-sets. While information is a new electronic telephone exchange in not maintained by the dealer network ofr the oil companies about the sectoral break-up Faizabad; and of sales from the retail outlets, an opinion (d) if so, the progress thereof ? survey to ascertain the sectoral break-up of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE sales of HSD through retail outlets was made MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATION (SHRI in 1984 by the oil industry. On that basis RAM NIWAS M IRDHA): (a) The waiting and the data about total sale of HSD in list for new telephone connections in Faiza 1983-84, the consumption in the agricultural bad (U.P.) is 140. sector can be roughly placed at two million (b) Yes, Sir. There is a proposal of tonnes. increasing the capacity of the exchange by 100 (b) No, Sir. lines by the end of March, 1985. Another expansion of 100 lines is planned during (c) Does’not arise. 1985-86. (c) No, Sir. Cottage industries run by Scheduled (d) Question does not arise in view of Castes/Schedulcd Tribes in Dadra (c) above. and Nager Haveli Help by Centre for setting up industries 1831. SHRI SITARAM J. GAVALI : and provisions in Seventh Plan Will the Minister of INDUSTRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : [English ] (a) whether there are any cottage indus 1833. SHRI AMAR ROY PRADHAN: tries run by Scheduled Castes/Scheduled Will the Minister of INDUSTRY AND Tribes in Dadra and Nagar Haveli; and COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : (b) if not, the steps taken by Govern (a) the extent of Centre’s help for settng ment to set up such industries ? up of industries in a State; (b) the provisions made in the Seventh THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM Five Year Plan for selling up industries for PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM the development of the States; and MAD KHAN) : (a) As per the available (c) if not, the reasons therefor ? information, a total number of 11 artisan type units and 20 small scale units were set THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE up in Dadra and Nagar Haveli in the year MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM- 1983-84. All the 11 artisan type units were PNY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM set up by the Scheduled Castes Scheduled MAD KHAN): (a) to (c). Extent of Centre’s Tribes. help for setting up of industries has not been decided so far as the Seventh Five (b) Does not arise. Year Plan is yet to be finalised. {Translation} Steps to raise productionof Maruti Cars Waiting list for new Telephone Connec tions in Fai2flbad District, U.P. 1834. PROF. P. J. KURIEN : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY AND COMPANY 1832. SHRI N1RMAL KHATR1 : Will AFFAIRS be pleased to state, the steps the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be being taken to raise the production of Maruti pleased to state : car ? 217 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 218 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) if so, the consideration which weighed MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM with Government in clearing this projcct; PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM- MAPKHAN): Maruti Udyog Ltd. has pro (d^ whether the new tyre unit is to be duced over 20,000 cars and 2000 vans during set as a division of Kesoram Industries and 1984-85 against the total target of 20,000 losses made in it can be set off against the vehicles. Company is making endeavours to profits of the rest of the divisions of Keso manufacture 36000 cars and 12000 vans ram, giving tax benefits; and during the year 1985-86. The production will be further stepped up in the subsequent (e) whether this aspect was taken into years with a view to meeting the demand. consideration while issuing the letter of in tent to Kesoram industries ? Policy towards developing Indian Brand THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE names MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM 1835. SHRI D.P. JADEJA : Will the MAD KHAN): (a) M/s. Kesoram Industries Minister of INDUSTRY AND COMPANY and Cotton Mills Ltd. belonging to Birla AFFAIRS be pleased to state : Group has been issued with a letter of intent (a) the policy of Government towards for the manufacture of tyres/tubes at Bala- developing Indian Brand names with the sore (a backward district categorised ‘A’) in emphasis on new technology and upgrading the State of Orissa. of Industry so that one day we can compete with International Brands; and (b) and (c). The application of M/s. Kesoram Industries and Cotton Mills Ltd. (b) Government’s plan to see that Indian was duly examined from all angles including Brands develop with or without foreign capacity build-up required to meet projected technology ? demand at the end of Seventh Five Year Plan and the provisions of the MRTP Act THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE before grant of letter of intent. MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM (d) and (e) : The Application was sub PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM mitted in the name of M/s. Kesoram Indus MAD KHAN) : (a) and (b). For developing tries and Cotton Mills Ltd and the letter of Indian Brand names, use of foreign brand intent was issued accordingly. names is discouraged. As a general policy, foreign brand names are not ordinarily allowed for use on products for internal [Translation] sales, although there is no objection to their use on products to be exported. A condition Encroachment on land in Danapur to this effect is being incorporated in all Cantonment Area approvals for foreign collaborations. 1837. SHRI ABDUL HANNAN AN- SAR1 : Will the Minister of DEFENCE be Setting up of a tyre factory by Birlas in pleased to state : Orissa 1836. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MAN- fa) whether in Danapur cantonment DAL: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY areas the local people have encroached upon AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to large tracts of land between sector 4 and state : sector 7 ; (a) whether Government have allowed (b) whether the cantonment employees Birlas to enter into the field of Tyre Indus have encroached upon the land between the try by pumping Rs. 90 crores in a factory bus stand and Marshal Bazar ; and to be set up in Orissa; (c) whether Government propose to take (b) whether this Industry is already over action to remove the encroachment and to saturated with excess capacity; punish the guilty ? v 219 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 220 THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI Manuals was not provided. Since under the P.V. NARAS1MHA RAO) : (a) Yes, Sir. Official Language Act, these are required to be punished both in Hindi and English, the (b) No, Sir. Department tried to utilise the services of Hindi Translators In the Hindi Section of (c) Yes, Sir. the Directorate as w ell'as in Hindi Section of some of the field units located, nearby. It [English] was in this context that the services of the Hindi Section of Advance Level Telecom. Hindi Officers and Hindi Translators in Training Centre, Ghaziabad have been uti Posts and Telegraph Department lised. 1838. SHRI BANWARI LAL BAIRWA: (c) and (e). The staff brought from Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS ALTTC continue to be borne on the strength be pleased to state: of ALTTC Ghaziabad from where they draw their pay and allowances under usual Head. (a) whether he is aware that Post9 and Telegraphs Department has borrowed some (d) No Sir. There is no proposal to Hindi Officers and Senior Hindi Translators absorb them in P&T Directorate. Their from Advance Level Telecom. Training Headquarters will t>e shifted again to ALTTC, Centre, Ghaziabad ; Ghaziabad after the completion of this work. (b) if so, the reasons for borrowing them from Circle Office while a separate Hindi Preconditions for sale of Arms and Military Unit is already working in the Directarate ; Equipment to India by USA 1839. SHRI BHOLA NATH SEN : Will (c) the terms and conditions of borrow the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to ing these officials from Advance Level Tele state: com. Training Centre; (a) whether the United States of America 'd) whether it is proposed to absorb has attached some preconditions for sale of them in the Posts and Telegraphs Directorate ; arms and military equipment to India ; and (b) if so, what are these preconditions; (e) from where these officials are drawing and pay and allowances, the head thereof ? (c) whether these preconditions are also THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE attached by the United States in cases of MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS sale of arms to other countries particularly (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) and Pakistan ? (b). Yes, Sir. One Hindi Officer and three Senior Hindi Translators have been brought THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI from Advance Level Telecom. Training P.V. NARASIMHA RAO) : (a) No, Sir. Centre, Ghaziabad to P&T Directorate. (b) & (c) Do not arise. P&T is required to bring out about 60 Code Books and Manuals at suitable inter Losses suffered by IDPL vals. In course of time these Codes and Manuals required a large-scale revision and 1840. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAG A : additions. In view of this, a Codes and Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND Manuals Revision Cell consisting of 30 FERTILIZERS be pleased to state : officers/officials was set up vide orders dated 1.9.1982. This cell stands sanctioned for a (a) whether it is a fact that as on 31st period of 3 years. March, 1984 the cumulative loss of the Indian Drugs and Pharmaceuticals Limited At the time of the constitution of this was Rs. 11,716.29 lakhs representing 125.42 Cell an independent complement of staff for per cent of the paid-upcapital of the Com Hindi translation of the revised Codes and pany of Rs.9341.33 lakhs; 221 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 222 (b^ if so, the reasons therefor; AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL) : (a) Yes, Sir. (c) the number of plants being run by Indian Drugs and Pharmaceuticals Limited (b) The losses are due to various factors and the location thereof ; such as under utilisation of the installed (d) the particulars of the best run plant capacity resulting from demand constraints and the worst run plant and the reasons and power/water shortage, technological pro therefor; blems, higher cost of production from basis stage and a product-mix predominently com (e) whether any efforts have been made prising Category I and II bulk drugs and to streamline the working of the units so as formulations with lower mark-up. to make these units earn profits; and (f) if so, the results thereof ? (c) and (d). Indian Drugs and Pharmaceu ticals Limited are at present running five units THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS and the financial performance of each of AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY these units is as below : {In Rs.jLakhs) (-f) Profit/(—) Loss 1981-82 1982-83 1983-84 Rishikesh (—) 1519.34 (—) 869.83 (—) 75.684 Hyderabad (—) 716.41 (—) 759.84 (—) 426.15 Madras (—) 69.85 ( - ) 212.97 (—) 167.73 Gurgaon (—) 6.12 (+ ) 10.80 ( - ) 41.57 Muzaffarpur (—) 239.61 (—) 286.08 ( _ ) 370.11 (e) and (f). Remedial steps being taken (d) if so, the reasons why it could not include plugging of loop-holes in Import be materialised ? Policy which inhibit production and capacity utilisation, ensuring adequate availability of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE working capital and critical raw materials MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI and intermediates and attempts to up-grade NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a) and technology. (b). The process for selecting a dealer for the Indian Oil Corporation’s proposed petrol/diesel retail outlet on the outskirts of Opening of cutlets for petrol and Vidisha town is under way. Sanchi has not Diesel at Vidisha and Sanchl in been identified by the oil industry for open Madhya Pradesh ing any new petrol/diesel pump. 1841. SHRI PRATAP BHANU (c) Yes, Sir. SHARMA : Will the minister of PETRO (d) The proccss for selecting dealer is LEUM be pleased to state : under way. (a) whether Government had proposed to open new outlets for petrol and diesel at Liquidation of M/s. Globe Financiars (P) Vidisha and Sanchi in Madhya Pradesh; Limited (b) if so, the reasons why there has been 1842. SHRI RAM POOJAN PATEL : a delay in opening these outlets; Will the Minister of INDUSTRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : (c) whether Bharat Petroleu/n Corpora tion had advertised for a new diesel outlet (a) whether the Official Liquidator has for Mandideep in Raisen District in Decem been dealing with the liquidation cases of ber, 1S83; and companies only; 223 Written Answers APRIL 2, 1985 Written Answers 224 (b) whether the cases are pending for (a) whether the State Government have finalisation with Official Liquidator for the failed to implement the House-hold Electro twenty years; nic Appliances (Quality Control) Order passed by the Centre in 1984 under the {c) if so, the position of settlement of Essential Commodities Act. claims of creditors numbering about 83 involved in the liquidation of M/s. Globe (b) whether the markets flooded with Financiars (P) Ltd. uptil now; and sub-standard and spurious electrical applian ces are posing serious threat to the safety of (d) whether Government propose to take the users; and any action for early finalisation of claims of the creditors numbering 83 of M/s. Globe (c) if so, the steps contemplated by the Financiars (P) Limited ? Government in this regard ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF . STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COMP MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM ANY AFFAIRS SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM KHAN) : (a) The Official Liquidator, Delhi MAD KHAN) : (a) No, Sir. has been dealing with the liquidation cases of companies registered under the Companies (b) Government has no such informa Act, 1956 in the Union Territory of Delhi tion. only. (e) Does not arise. (b) There is no case which is pending finalisation with the Official Liquidator for Import of News Prints the last twenty years. 1844. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH : (c) Out of 83 claims stated to be pend Will the Minister of INDUSTRY AND ing settlement with the Officials Liquidator, COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : 63 claims have since been settled and only 20 claims are pending finalisation. Out of (a) whether over 50 per cent of the the 20 pending claims, 16 are pending finali country’s newsprint requirement has to be sation for want of sufficient proof from the imported; claimants and 2 are pending for want of condonation of delay by the Court which (b) if so, whether any comprehensive has to be obtained by the claimants concer programme has been chalked out to make ned; as for the balance 2, necessary docume the country self-sufficient; if so, the details nts have been received from the claimants thereof; and recently in February/March, 1985 and are (c) the schemes and measures contemp under examination by the Official Liqui lated under the Seventh Plan in that direc dator. tion. (d) In the cate of winding up of a com THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE pany by the Court, as in the instant case, MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COMP the Official Liquidator functions under the ANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHA directions, control and superintendence of MMAD KHAN) : (a) The estimated the concerned High Court. demand of 3.85 lakh tonnes of newsprint The Official Liquidator has reported during 1984-85 is to be met to the extent of that energetic steps are being taken to 2 lakh tonnes by way of domestic produc finalise the remaining 20 claims mentioned tion and the remaining by imports. in (c) above. (b) and (c). In order to increase pro Failure to Implement House-hold Electrical duction of newsprint in the country, conti nuous efforts arc being made to improve the Appliances (Quality Control) Order capacity utilisation of the existing mills. The 1843. SHRI MOHAMMAD MAHFOOZfollowing additional capacity has also been ALI KHAN : Will the Minister of INDUS approved by way of Industrial Licences/ TRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased Letters of Intent which are under various to state : stages of implementation : 223 Written Answers CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 226 S.No. Name of the Party Location Annual Capacity (M.T.) Industrial Licences 1. Tamil Nadu Newsprint and Papers Tamil Nadu 50,000 2. Century Pulp and Paper Nainital (UP) 20,000 3. Nepa Mills Nepanagar (MP) 9,000 (Substantionai expansion) Letters of Intent 4. Tirupati Newsprint Bilnspur (MP) 79,000 5. Karnataka Newsprint Karnataka 30,000 Manufacturing Company Ltd. 6. Shri M. P. Jatia Goa S5,000 7. State Industrial and Investment Maharashtra 50,000 Corporation 8. Solar Paper Mills Tamil Nadu 30,000 9. Dr. D. K. Misra Orissa 50,000 10. Shri B. Hanumanta Rao Andhra Pradesh 40,000 11. M/s. Baroda Rayon Maharashtra . 50,000 Corporation Ltd. 12. Acme Paper Ltd. Madhya Pradesh 60,000 13. M/s. Cleetus Vincent Andhra Pradesh 30,000 Supply of Kerosene to Traditional board engines for fishing crafts are repor Fishermen for their Motorised tedly designed to run on petrol and the use Country-Crafts of kerosene is likely to damage the engines in the long run. It is not considered desirable 1845. SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR :to use kerosene which has to be imported Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be when petrol, which is indigenously available, pleased to state : can be used for these engines. (a) the policy of Govenment for the (b) Does not arise, in view of the reply supply of kerosene to the traditional fisher given to (a) above. men who have motorised their country crafts with out-board engines; and Request to remove levy on newsprint (b) whether Government will ensure 1846. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA: supply of kerosene to them on priority SHRIMATI MADHURI SINGH: basis ? SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Will the Minister of INDUSTRY AND MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : (a) Kero (a) whether the Editors Guild of India sene oil allocations to States are meant urged Government to remove the levies on essentially for domestic lighting and newsprint ctn d to make cheaper and more cooking purposes. All the State have abundant newsprint supplies available to been advised that the use of kerosene all sections of the Press; for non-domestic purposes can be allowed only if use of no other substitute fuel is (b) if so, the present rate of levy possible on technological grounds. The out charged on newsprint; and 227 Papers Laid APRIL, 2, 1985 Papers Laid 228 (c) the reaction of Government to (1) The National Cadet Corps (Second remove or reduce the levies on the newsprint Amendment) Rules, 1985, publi to save the newspapers industry ? shed in Notification No. SRO 49 in Gazette of India dated the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 23rd February, 1985. MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM (ii) The National Cadet Corps (Third MAD KHAN): (a). No representation has Amendment) Rules, 1985, publi been received from the Editors Guild of shed in Notification No. SRO 52 India in this regard by the Ministry erf in Gazette of India dated the 9th Industry and Company Affairs, March, 1985. (b) and (c). Central Excise duty is fully (iii) The National Cadet Corps (Girls exempted in the case of all papers contain Division) Second Amendment ing mechanical wood pulp amounting to not Rules, 1985 published in Notifi less than 50% of the fibre content intended cation No. SRO 56 in Gazette for use in the printing of newspapers, text of India dated the 16th March, books or other books of general interest. 1985. Odd size newsprint and reject newsprint attract Central Excise duty of 5% ad valorem. [Placed in library. See No. LT-631 /85] The effective rate of Customs duty on im ported newsprint used in printing of news (2) A copy of the Naval Ceremonial papers, books and periodicals is Rs. 550/ Conditions of Service and Miscella per tonne plus an Auxiliary duty of Rs. 275/ neous (Amendment) Regulations, per tonne. However, in terms of the 1984 (Hindi and English versions) judgment of the Supreme Court dated 6th published, in Notification No. SRO December, 1984, in the case of certain writ 130 in Gazette of India dated the petitions filed against the levy of import 16th June, 1984 under section 185 duty on newsprint, Government is required of the Navy Act, 1957. to reconsider within six months from the date of the judgement the entire question of (3j \ statement (Hindi ' and English levy of import duty or auxiliary duty pay versions) showing reasons for delay able on newsprint used for printing news in laying the papers mentioned at papers, periodicals, etc. with effect from (2) above. 1st March, 1981. In the meanwhile, the [Placed in library. See No. LT 632/85] field formations have been instructed by the Ministry of Finance to collect duty at the rate of Rs. 550/- per metric tonne on Detailed Demands for Grants of the imported newsprint. Ministry Oi Education for 1985-86 THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION (SHRI K.C.PANT): I beg to lay on the Table 12.00 hrs a copy of the Detailed Demands for Grants [English'] (Hindi and English versions) of the Minis try of Education for 1985-86. PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE [Placed is library. See No. LT-633/85] Notifications under National Corps Act and the Navy Act Review on and Annual Report of THE MINISTER OF LAW AND Hindustan Insecticides Limited, New JUSTICE (SHRI A.K. SEN) : ON BEHALF Delhi for 1983-84 and Hindustan OF SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO I beg Organic Chemicals Ltd, for 1983-84 to lay on the Table THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS (1) A copy each of the following Notifi AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY cations (Hindi and English versions AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI under sub-section*-(3) of section 13 VEERENDRA PAT1L): I beg to lay on of the National Corps Act, 1948:— the Table : 229 Tapers Laid CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Papers Laid 230 (1) A copy a c \ of the following papers (2) The Furnace Oil (Fixation of Ceiling (Hindi and English versions) under Prices and Distribution) (Amendment; sub-section (1) of section 619A of the Order, 1985 published in Notification Companies Act, 1956:— No. G.S.R. 152 (El in Gazette of India dated the 17th March, 1985 (a) (i) Review by the Government together with a Corrigendum thereto on the working of the published in Notification No. G.S,R, Hindustan Insecticides Limi 288 (E) deted the 21 st March, 1985, ted, New Dei hi, for the year 1983-84. (3) The Kerosene (Fixation of Ceiling (ii) Annual Report of the Hindu Prices) (Amendment) Order, 1985 stan Insecticides Limited, published in Notification No. G.S.R. New Delhi, for the year 153 (E) in Gazette of India dated 1983-84 along with Audited the 17th Merch, 1985. Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and (4) The Paraffin Wax (Supply Distribu Auditor General thereon. tion, and Price Fixation) (Amend [Placed in library. See No. LT 634/85] ment) Order, 1985 published in Noti fication No. G.S.R. 154 (E) in Gazette (b) (i) Review by the Government of India dated the 17th March, 1985. on the working of the Hindustan Organic Chemi (5) The Kerosene (Fixation of Ceiling cals Limited, for the year Prices) (Second Amendment) Order, 1893-84. 1985 published in Notification No. G.S.R. 306 (E) in Gazette of India (ii) Annual Report of the dated the 26th March, 1985. Hindustan Organic Chemi cals Limited, for the year [Placed in library. See No. LT-636/85] 1983-84 along with Audited Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon. SHRI AMAL DATTA (Diamond Har bour) : I have given a Calling Attention on (2) Two statements (Hindi and English a very important subject. versions) showing reasons for delay in laying the papers mentioned at (a) and (b) of item(i) above. MR. SPEAKER : Mr. Amal Datta, Calling Attention notices are discussed by [Placed in library. See No. LT-635/85] me in my office, not here. (Interruptions) When you have given it to me, I will sort it out. You can rest assured, Notifications under Essential Commodities Act SHRI SURESH KURUP: (Koltayam) Reports have appeared about leakage of gas THE MINITER OF STATE OF THE MI again, from the Union Carbide ...... NISTRY OF PEROLEUM (SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA): I beg to Jay on the Tabic a copy each of the following Notifi MR. SPEAKER : This is just a report. cations (Hindi and English versions) under 1 have got no information. I have to get the sub-section (6) of section 3 of the Essential facts. I cannot go on these reports alone. I Commodities Act, 1955 :— have to get some facts. Please sit down. This has got to be factually verified. Why (1) The Light Diesel Oil (Fixation of do you unnecessarily raise it ? There is Ceiling Prices) (Amendment) Order, nothing in it. Unless there is some substance 1985 published in Notification No. how can I allow it ? Please sit down. G.S.R. 151 (E) in Gazette of India dated the 17 th March, 1985. (Interruptions) 231 Papers Laid APRIL, 2, 1985 Papers Laid 232 SHRI SURESH KURUP rose MR. SPEAKER : No, no, not allowed. MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Suresh, there is (Interruptions )* * nothing tangible. I will find out if there are facts. Then I will see. MR. SPEAKER : Mr. Krishna Iyer. (.Interruptions) (Interrup tions)** SHRI SURESH KURUP: You will have [Translation] to find out the facts. MR. SPEAKER : It does not carry any meaning. You talk irrelevant things. MR. SPEAKER: That is what I have done. How can I get information without [English] asking the Minister ? This is a logical thing. How can 1 get facts without asking I have not allowed you. Nothing can go forthem ? Please sit down. on record without my permission. I have not allowed. (Interruptions) [Translation] SHRI SURESH KURUP: I am raising Whether it is fifty thousand or one lakh it so that you should ask for facts. it can be allowed only according to the rules. MR. SPEAKER : If there are facts it [English] will be answered. If there is nothing* then how can they answer it ? It will be according to the rules. SHRI SAIFUDD1N CHOWDHURY [Translation] (Katwa): We do not know whaf is happening there. SHRI PRATAP BHANU SHARMA (Vidisha) : I have given notice of a calling MR. SPEAKER : That is why I am attention. ... (Interruptions J... saying I am getting the facts. Mr. Chow- dhury. If there are facts, then they will [English] come : Otherwise, not. So simple it is. MR. SPEAKER : It is with me. You PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE (Raja- can talk to me in my Chamber. Notices pur) : That depends upon the efficiency of regarding calling attention are not discussed the Minister. here on the Floor of the House. (Interruptions) {Interruptions) [Translation] MR. SPEAKER : Not allowed. SHRI RAMSWAROOP RAM (Gaya) : (Translation| Mr. Speaker Sir, I have given notice of a calling attention,*...... SHRI PRATAP BHANU SHARMA: Our request may also be considered. MR. SPEAKER: Calling attention is not discussed here. MR. SPEAKER : I have no time. We had discussed in the Business Advisory Com (Interruptions) mittee . (Interruptions )... [English'] [English] MR. SPEAKER : Now can I get the facts MR. SPEAKER: You can discuss it without asking for them ? with me in my Chamber, not here. I have {Interruptions) **Not recorded. Papers Laid CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Papers Laid told you, requested you and implored you PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE—contd. that you can come to my Chamber and we Radio, Television and Video Cassette recorder shall see, not here. Sets (Exemption from Licencing Requirements) Rules, 1985 ITranslation\ THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE SHRI PRATAP BHANU SHARMA : MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Discussion under rule 193 may be allowed. (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : I beg to lay on the Table a copy of the Radio, Television and Video Cassette [English] Recorder Sets (Exemption from Licensing Requirements) Rules, 1985 (Hindi and MR. SPEAKER: We have to find a way out. I go with the consent of the House. English versions) published in Notification No. G.S.R. 150(E) in Gazette of India There is no problem with me. I am ready to dated the 17th March, 1985 under sub sit even for four hours. Whatever can be section (4) of section 10 of the Indian Wire discussed on the Floor of the House, I am less Telegraphy Act, 1933. always open to it. [Placed in library. See No LT637/85] (Interruptions) Statement regarding Review on Lagan Jute Machinery Company Limited Calcutta, for MR. SPEAKER: No. If the whole House 1983-84 and Half Yearly Report of the Coir decides to do anything, I have got no grudge Board, Emakulam and I will not debar it. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (Interruptions) MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF MOHAM SHRI PRATAP BHANU SHARMA : MAD KHAN) : I beg to lay on the Table— Everybody wants to participate in the discus (1) A copy each of the following papers sion on this issue. If possible, it can be (Hindi and English versions) under sub discussed under 193. section (1) of section 619A of the Compa nies Act, 1956 :- ( Interruptions) (i) A statement regarding Review by the Government on the working of SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER (Banglore): the Lagan Jute Machinery Com I call the attention of the Minister ...... pany Limited, Calcutta, for the year 1983-84. (Interruptions) (ii) Annual Report of the Lagan Jute Machinery Company Limited, Cal MR. SPEAKER : Not allowed. No luck. cutta, for the year 1983-84 along The House does not agree with you. with Audited Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and (Interruptions)** Auditor General thereon. (2) A statement (Hindi and English ver MR. SPEAKER : Yes, Mr. Iyer. sions) showing reasons for delay in laying the papers mentioned at (1) above. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER : I call the [Placed in Library See No. LT-638/85] attention of the Minister... (3) A copy of the Half Yearly Report (Inten up lions) * * (Hindi and English versions) of the Coir Board, Emakulam, for the period from 1st April to 30th September, 1984, under section MR. SPEAKER : Whatever I could do, 19 of the Coir Industry Act, 1953. I have already done. [Placed in Library. See No. LT 639/85] ** Not recorded. 235 Famine and dronght APRIL 2, 1985 Famine and drought 236 conditions conditions 12.04 hrs ught conditions and submitted memoranda seeking Central assistance for drought relief. CALLING ATTENTION TO MATTER A total crop area of 320.84 lakh hectares, OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE a population of 991.28 lakh and 308.15 lakh cattle have been reported to be affected by [ Engl ish ] the drought. Reported famine and drought conditions On receipt of the memoranda of the State prevailing in various parts of the Government, the Central Teams were deputed country due to failure of rains to the above States for visiting the drought affected areas, detailed discussions with the SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER (Bangalore State Government officials and examinations South) : I call the attention of the Minister of the memoranda. On the basis of the of Agriculture and Rural Development to the reports of the Teams and the recommenda following matter of urgent public importance tions of the High Level Committee on Relief, and request that he may make a statement the total ceiling of Central assistance to the thereon : tune of Rs. 200.66 crores was sanctioned. “Reported : famine and drought condi However, during second fortnight of Mrach tions prevailing in various parts of the 1985, Governments of Maharashtra and country due to failure of rains caus Karnataka submitted supplementray memo ing damage to crops, acute shortage randa for Central assistance, during 1985-86 of fodder and drinking water and the to combat the continuing drought in these action taken by the Government in States. These memoranda are under the matter,” examination. The major components of the Central THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE assistance for drought relief are supply of AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI drinking water, nutrition programme as well BU'TA SINGH) : In 25 out of 35 meter- as provision for fodder for cattle, employ eological sub-divisions in the country, the ment generation, gratuitous relief, input rainfall was excess or normal during South assistance to small and marginal farmers, etc. West monsoon (June-September) 1984. The About Rs. 54.00 crores for has been sanctio deficiency in the remaining 10 sub-divisions ned for drinking water and Rs. 7.42 crores varied from 20% to 40%. The deficient sub for fodder as parts of Central assistance to divisions are Andaman & Nicobar Islands, drought relief during 1984-85. The Govern Hills of West Uttar Pradesh, Himachal ment of India also assist the States under Pradesh, West Rajasthan, Marathwada, the Accelerated Rural Water Supply and Vidarbha, Coastal Andhra Pradesh, Tclangana, Incentive Schemes. During 1984-85, the Rayalseema and South Interior Karnataka. Government of India gave assistance of about 36% of the total number of districts in the Rs. 154 crores to these 8 States under these country had deficient or scanty rains. During schemes. These States have also their own the North East monsoon (October-December Minimum Needs Programme for ensuring 1984, which is important for South peninsula, supply of drinking water in rural areas. the five sub-divisions i. e. Coastal Andhra Pradesh, Rayalseema, Tamil Nadu and Pondi The effect of drought on the crop cherry, South Interior Karnataka and Kerala production is also minimised by adopting were deficient. The winter rainfall in Northern, contingent cropping. For example, due to drou Western and Central India was highly defi ght in few States like, Rajasthan, etc., consi cient or scanty during January-February, derable part of wheat area has been diverted 1985. The rainfall during March, 1985 was to Rape and Mustard, which require less also scanty or highly deficient in the above water compared to wheat, The alternate strate parts of India. gies for crop planning in case of drought have been worked out by Indian Council of Due to scanty and erratic behaviour of Agricultural Research and circulated amongst monsoon during 1984, the States of Andhra the States, Pradesh, Himachal Pradesh, Karnataka, Madhya Pradesh, Maharashtra, Orissa, Long-term steps for tackling the drought Rajasthan and Uttar Pradesh reported dro have also been taken by the Government by 237 Famine and drought CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Famine and drought 238 conditions conditions formulating a number of schemes, like, and the number of agricultural labourers is Drought Prone Area Programme, Desert 19.28 lakhs. Development Programme, National Rural Employment Programme, Rural Landless The State Government launched a massive Employment Gurantee programmme, Scheme relief programme by extending all possible on Dryland Farming, etc. The DPAP covers help to the people in the affected areas. The 511 blocks in the country and during the thrust in these relief works has been to ensure Sixth Plan, Rs. 166.17 crores had been spent the following : on this Programme. Under the Centrally Sponsored Schemes of DPAP and DDP, Employment for all. minor irrigation, afforestation and develop Drinking water supply. ment of Pastures and soil and water Supply of fodder for cattle; and conservation are the major components. Even under NREP and RLEGP, development of Supply of adequate foodgrains. minor irrigation, soil and water conservations The State Government has taken all etc. are important elements. necessary steps. It has done its best. It has The Meteorological Department also have not allowed a single cattle to die because of set up nine Agro-metrological Centres in lack of fodder. Though the drought was differents States. They work in close colla severe, no human being suffered on account boration with the State Governments and of it because of the steps taken by the State indicate their forecast etc. They also indicate Government. But I am sorry to say that the forecast about monsoon in April. For winter assistance provided by the Central Govern ment has been very scanty. The drought rains also, they do forecast in January every year. The State Governments take appro condition has not been there for the first time. In the previous years also it had been priate action on the basis of these forecasts. there. In 1984 the South-west monsoons and SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER : 1 have even the North-east monsoons have failed. heard the Hon-Minister with rapt attention. The State Government has requested the I cannot say about the severity of drought Central Government for massive assistance. conditions in other States. 1 can talk about Out of its meagre resources the State Govern the severe conditions of drought in ment cannot tackle this problem successfully. So, the Centre must come to its rescue. Just Karnataka. as a mother comes to the rescue of an ailing MR. SPEAKER : Plead their cases also. child, it is the duty of the Central Govern ment to come to the rescue of those States SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER : Of which are in difficulties. course, I have equal sympathy with other States. Here I would like to give some of the figures about the assistance asked by the SHRI SOMNATH RATH (ASKA) : He State Government and the assistance given by has not been breifed about other States. the Central Government. The State Govern ment has sent four memoranda so far and it SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER : I have has asked for an assistance of nearly heard the Minister just now about other Rs. 209.50 crores. And they have got about States. Rs. 32.73 crores. Even that amount has not been fully paid. They have actually got Rs,25 So far as Karnataka is concerned, the crores only. drought has been extremely severe for the past two years. Particularly in 1984 the Slate Now, 1 would like to mention a few faced one of the worst drought situations major items. For employment generation the with as many as 15333 villages, spread over State Government has asked for an assistance 133 Taluks in 16 districts, reeling under its of Rs. .43 crores in the first memorandum spell. The total human population in the and Rs 40 crores in the first supplementary affected rural areas is 142.63 lakhs and the memorandum. So, in the first two memoranda affected cattle population is estimated at they have asked for an assistance of Rs.83 82.90 lakhs. The number of families of small crores. Out of this, the ceiling of expenditure and marginal farmers affected is 13.42 lakhs approved by the Central Government is Rs. 239 Famine and drought APRIL 2, 1985 Famine and drought 240 conditions conditions 18.75 crores, In the latest supplementary assistance given by the Central Government memorandum the State Government has asked is only in respect of transport, they have not for an assistance of Rs. 27 crores under the given permission for purchase of fodder. So, same heading. The major relief work that it is necessary that the State Government the State Government has undertaken in should be given permission for purchase of giving employment to all persons, because the fodder. The Centra! Government have given crops have completely failed and there is no only Rs. 25 crores to the State Government alternative. That is why guarantee of employ so far but the State Government has spent ment is given to all the able bodied persons. nearly Rs. 105 crores to tackle the situation. Even today four lakh persons are provided The State Government has been taking jobs and they are paid Rs. 6.50 per day, both important steps in this regard. They have men and women. The state is faced with the banned the export of fodder outside the State task of continuing the relief operations upto and have further authorised the Deputy the end of June, 1985 till the onset of next Commissioners to purchase fodder to make monsoons. That is why, the Slate Govern it available to be supplied free of cost to the ment has asked for an assistance of Rs. 27 small and marginal farmers. crores, Another important step which the State Government has taken is that they have supp Because of the successive failure of mon lied agricultural inputs to small and marginal soons the drinking water scarcity has become farmers under the mini-kit programme very very severe. The State Government because first of all the State Government has sanctioned digging of 15000 borewells. thought that though the Khar if crop had Even that work is going on a war footing. failed, rnbi crop might be good. But since the State got less rains during September-October, The State Government has asked for mini-Kits were giventothe agriculturists. Itvvas funds for bore-wells in the rural areas. In the thought that these may be useful for them to first memorandum they have asked for Rs.38 re-sow the rabi crop but unfortunately since crores, in the second one they have asked there have been no rains, they could not grow for Rs. 6 crores and in the latest one they any crop at all. Therefore, the Government have asked for Rs.23 crores for the digging have given remission of land revenue in the up of bore-wells. This also is a very impor villages affected by drought. tant programme. So, the State Gorvenment has taken all Another point is that out of the total the necessary steps to tackle the drought demand of nearly Rs. 255 crores raised by situation in the State. Now, the most impor the State Government, the Central Govern tant thing that the Central Government ment has been able to give only Rs. 32.73 should do is that they should come to the crores so far. Here, Sir, I would like to draw rescue of the State Government. Not only the attention of the Hon. Minister to the in rural areas, even in urban areas there is severity of drought in Karnataka. I will tell the problem of drinking water. Out of 200 you bow the crops have completely failed in towns, nearly 130 towns are suffering for the State. Out of 48% of the sown area in wantofdrinking water. The State Government, the State which has been affected by drought, in their memoranda, have asked for assistance rabi crop was affected to the extent of 65 per for digging bore-wells in urban areas also. cent. As you know, rabi is a staple food in So, 1 would urge upon the Government to most parts of Karnataka and 65 per cent of realise that the drought situation in Karna this crop has been spoiled because of the taka is really very very serious. Of course, failure of both the South-West and the we have got a very efficient admini North-East monsoons. Similarly, jowar crop stration now and they have been tackling has been affected to the extent of 43 per cent the situation very successfully but unless the and groundnut crop to the extent of 60 per Central Government comes to the rescue of cent on account of widespread scarcity con the State Government, it wouid be impossible ditions. Even in the case of fodder, which is for them to proceed further because we have a very important commodity, and which has to give employment opportunities up to June been affected badly, the State Government end, to ail those who are sufferers. Only in has taken all necessary steps like banning the June we can expect South-West monsoon export outside the State. For fodder, the again. 241 Famine and drought CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Famine atid drought 242 conditions conditions For tackling the situation* the State Govern We always take the people’s problems first ment have spent more than their resources. irrespective of the fact whether they belong So, what has ultimately happened is they to a a State ruled by one party or the other. have been forccd to take overdraft. When overdrafts are taken, the Central Government SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER: That takes the State Government to task, but they is what we want. do not have any other alternative. They cannot allow people to die. 1 would like to SHRI BUTA SINGH : That is very know from the Government, on what true. When 1 reveal the picture you will basis this assistance has been fixed. Of course, realise. the Central Covernment has sent a study team to the drought-affected areas and they have The main problem is the overall cons recommended the quantum of assistance. But traint of the lesources. As you have explain the fact is that you have given only Rs.25 crores to the State Government whereas the ed the difficulties of the State Governments, there are certain norms fixed by the Govern State Government has already spent about ment of India, under which the whole system Rs. 150 crores. This amount should be made of assistance for drought or floods or famine up, otherwise the State Government will or for any natural calamity conditions is suffer badly. implemented. I am very happy that the Hon. Minister has mentioned about the long-term pro It is a fact that the State Government gramme for the drought-prone areas. This has been putting up their case to the Central is a very welcome step. As you are aware, Government and the Central Government, Sir, the Karnataka Government has already as per the norms laid down by the Seventh taken up the dry land farming scheme. Finance Commission, have been sending their It has taken that up on a massive scalc. team. The team made on-the-spot study, Even then sufficient aid from the Government met the people affected, met the State of India is necessary. Therefore, I strongly Government officials and also the voluntary appeal to the Central Government to give organisations working in the field. Then all necessary financial assistance not only to they examined the actual position in the the State of Karnataka but to all the States areas and arrived at a particular figure for which are having famine conditions. providing assistance. [Translation] This is not the only measure through which the Government of India is trying to MR. SPEAKER : There is drought in tackle the problem. There are many other my constituency also. programmes through which direct assistance is provided to many States. For example, [English] if we take Karnataka, from the year 1980 to 1985 large sums were spent there on drin SHRI BUTA SINGH : Sir, we will send king water through various other schemes a Central team. like minimum needs programme, ARWEP Mr. Speaker, Sir, as expccted, the Hon, etc. In 1980-84, Rs. 19 crores under one Member has very successfully depicted the scheme, Rs. 31.64 crores under another and picture of severe droughts in certain parts of Rs. 3.27 crores under yet another scheme Karnataka. We have been tackling these known as incentive bonus scheme were problems in cooperation with the State- provided and these scheme cover in the Government. Genera! impression is sought affected areas. to be given as if the Central Government is withdrawing its foot and the State Govern Like that there are many schemes. Similarly, ments are championing the casue of the there are schemes from the Rural Develop people affected by the drought. But that is ment Ministry’s side like the Integrated Rural not the case. There is an equal sense of Development scheme, NREP. Then there is responsibility and the Central Govern landless employment guarantee scheme. All ment never attached any importance to a these schemes go directly to help the people particular government in a given State; affected by various calamities like drought* 243 Famine and drought APRIL 2, 1985 Famim and dronght 244 condirions conditions The hon. Member wanted to know the tackled successfully both from short term yearwise break-up of the Government of and long term points, it is unfortunate that India’s assistance given to the State of when the honourable Chief Minister was Karnataka. In 1984-85, the total amount here we discussed these things, but now the released ro the Government of Karnataka tone of the Hon. Member is a little different. was Rs. 32.73 crores and not Rs.25 crores, During the discussion, the Chief Minister as the hon. Member has mentioned. conveyd that the Stale Government was quite cooperative, now the Hon. Member is The assistance released every year the trying to allege as if the Central Government drought is like this : In 1980-81 it was is doing nothing and only the State Govern Rs. 6.65 crorcs; in 1981-82, it was Rs.13.81 ment is doing everything. crores; in 1983-83 it was Rs. 8.81 crores and in 1983-84 it was Rs. 14 crores. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER : 1 did not say that. Also, as I mentioned in the main reply to the hon. Member's notice, Memoranda SHRI BUTA SINGH : It has to be done are being examined by the Government of with the full cooperation of the State India and a team is likely to visit Karnataka Government, it has to be fought as a natio based on the information provided by the nal problem. ( Interruptions ). I am not mis State Government. After the team has visi leading the House. I am just trying to say as ted, we will examine the whole case based to how the Hon.Member is trying to twist the on the norms and guidelines laid down by whole thing as if we are the ones who do the Finance Commission and under those not care for the drouhgt, for the people, and given criteria the high-level committee will only the State Goverment cares for them. make its recommendation. Then we will I have already said that appreciation must be is&ue further sanction on the basis of given to those who have helped the drought recommendation of the high level committee. affected people, but at the same time the Central Government is doing its level best. Sir, I agree with the hon. Member, it has to be an all-out effort both of the State 12.27 hrs Government and the Central Government to come to the rescue of the people who are [MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER in the Chair ] suffering under these conditions. Even we are going to revise the norms Sir, the Department cf Agriculture and after Financc Ministry issues sanctions on the Cooperation in consultation with ICAR has Eighih Financc Commission’s Report. Even already brought a regular manual for figh the guideline for the Central assistance is ting the drought conditions in the country. going to be revised in the mailer taking into In that, there arc long-term and short-term account the difficult conditions under which measures given out for the benefit of the the people in the rural areas are living, States and the officials who are engaged in specially where there are hardly any means relieving the people of these difficult condi of communication. Their miseries and their tions. In this, equal attention is paid both to difficulties are to be lessened. To that extent the human beings and the cattle requirements the Government of India will take every step for their fodder, for drinking water both under the rules. for the human beings and the cattle; for raising certain crops the seeds are given by SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER: I am the ICAR which are resistant to the climatic very sorry the Hon. Minister is mistaken conditions prevailing under drought condi because I only said the State Government tions. So. a lot of work is being done to has sought an assistance of Rs. 201 crores— see that even during the drought days the for the rest of Rs. 54 crores he said there is farmers, the peasants, the landless labourers, another scheme, I am very happy. The only are given sufficient jobs to sustain themselves thing is, it has already spent Rs. 105 crores, under the conditions in the drought areas. whereas the Central assistance is only to the So, various efforts are being made and I am extent of Rs, 32.73 crores. For the balance sure with the cooperation of the State amount the resources of the State Govern Government the drought conditions are being ment are very much limited. So, what ii to 245 Fortune and drought CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Famine and drought 246 conditions conditions be done ? I cannot blame him because he to the inadequate rainfall, famine has been has to look to the whole India whereas ravaging some part or other of Andhra 1 have to look to the needs of my State. Pradesh. The rainfall is very scanty, deficient, 1 know that* But it is a natural calamity. uneven and undependable. Becmse of all Natural calamity is the responsibility of these things, all the diy crops have comple everybody, it is not the responsibility of tely withered away. Out of 8.5 lakhs of wells only the State Government. 1 am sorry in the State, most of the wells have gone dry. he has misunderstood me. I did not mean In very few wells, there is some water. But any insinuation. 1 know it, the Chief Minis the water is highly insi flicient and the yield ter told me everything. But my request in those wells is very very meagre and is not is this. You have got certain norms, but the up to the mark and lar below standard. Due question is how to do it. A sum of Rs. 105 to this uneven rainfall, people are experien crores is already spent, but we are given cing undue distress Crores of agriculrural only about Rs. 34 crores. This has been labourers, amounting to 3 crores, were affec going on for the past two or three years. ted by this drought. They are without any The drought conditions are successive for the work. They do not get anythirg. They past two or three years. That is why I am cannot rr.eet both ends. They do not get even urging him to see that maximum assistance one square meal a day. Some ciores of is given. That is all that 1 have said. I have agricultural labourers are without work and never said that the Government of India has their miseries are beyond endurance. Unem- not done anything. We are grateful to the loyment problem has assumed a gigantic Government of India for whatever is done, proportion. The purchasing power of agricul but we want them to do more. That is all. tural labourer has icgisteicd a steep decline. Conventional sources of drinking water like SHRI BUTA SINGH : It is a sugges open-well, water ponds and nallas have tion, but we cannot straightway take the completely gone dry. People have to go a figures given by the State Government few miles even to get a few pots of water. because as a matter of fact, there is a ten In all these areas, the chronic deficiency of dency on the part of States, at the lime of rainfall is persisting year after year. these difficulties they want to include certain schemes which are not directly connected The story of Rayalaseema is the story of with the hard conditions of drought. They famine which is ravaging that part of the want to tell, ‘In that area we would like you State every year. Since 1902, famine has to build all this infrastructure which will go ravaged this area, and has caused untold a long way’. And then within the given misery to the people of this area. It has resources whatever is thought reasonable affccted 45 times since 1902. Since 1967 to the after the on-the-spot study made by the present day, famine has affccted it 15 times at ccntral team and recommendation by the least. Anantapur is the most backward high level committee, that is being given and district in the Rayalaseema area. Its rainfall the Hon. Member must know that in Karna is 544 m.m. only. There is no permanent taka, in addition to what I have said, the source of irrigation and this district has ways and means advance of Rs. 20 crores experienced a lot of famine. As the word was also given to meet the situation, pending Anantapur goes — Ananta means endless and the sanction of the Central assistance. There pur means poverty—the district itself is a is also margin money with every Slate and district with endless poverty. The district in Karnataka, the margin money is Rs. 2 has got the second lowest rainfall in the crores. whole of the country. This is highly insuffi cient for dry crops. Since 1902, this district SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY has been ravaged by famine for 50 years due (Hindupur't Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir Andhra to successive famine and it is engulfing it Pradesh consists of 23 districts. Out of 23 this year also. districts, 19 districts have been facing very severe drought poblem during the last year. The underground water table has register In 1982 also, 20 districts suffered. In 1983 ed a steep decline and this creates an acute also, some parts of Andhra suffered for shortage of water for human beings as well want of adequate rainfall. So, in 1982, 1983 as cattle. All the irrigation sources have and 1984, for three consecutivc years, due dried up' There are about 800 tanks in the 247 Famine and drought APRIL 2, 1985 Famine and drought 248 conditions conditions district which had not received supply of the Central Team visited the State and when water for the past four years and have dried the report was given. What is the amount up. Crops could not be raised. There are the recommended and what is the amount 60,000 wells in the district and most of them the Central Government has actually sanc have gone dry. The water yield in the tioned ? remaining wells is insufficient and the situa tion is so pitiable that some trees to a height The State Government wanted Rs. 5,4 of 3 feet to 4 feel are grown in the wells. crores for the supply of fodder: Rs. 4.5 In most of the wells, grass has grown. crores for minor irrigation; Rs. 54 crores Fodd ;r is very very scarce and cattle arc for road works because that will generate a being taken to slaughter-house and sold at a lot of labour; Rs. 31 crores for rural works, throw-away price. That is the plight and like check dams, percolation tanks, drinking misery of the people in Andhra Pradesh. water ponds, etc.; Rs. 15 crores for lift irrigation; Rs 2 lakhs for afforestation, etc. The purchasing power of agricultural I would like to know what amount the Cen labourer has reached the lowest ebb and has tral Government has sanctioned for such like almost reached the zero level. They do not things. have any work to do. Many of them are living on leaves and wild roots. This is the fate of those people for years and I would also like to request the Hon. years together. Most of them are migrating Minister to allot sufficient funds for impro to towns and far-off places in search of work. ving the underground water table. Due to The agriculturists are casting an anxious look the failure of rains in successive years, the towards the sky in anticipation of rain. underground water table is declining and Seeing their crops wither away, they are receding. So, most of the wells have gone lamenting over their fate. There are no tears dry. There are about 800 tanks and these 800 in their eyes to shed at their hapless position tanks have got to be desilted and deepened which nature has jettisoned them into. In at least to a depth of 3 ft. below the sluice the circumstances; I would request the Hon. level so that the dead storage of water will Minister to allot sufficient funds to save help percolation. There are a number of these poor people from their distress and tanks constructed during Vijayanagar Kings from the cruci jaws of acute famine. which have been breached. Those tanks have to be repaired on a war footing and conver ted into percolation tanks. Every 3 or 4 The State Government has prepared a years, whenever famine invades those parts detailed memorandum and requested the Government spends some amount in those Central Government for a grant of Rs. 369 areas and forgets about it. Some percolation crores so that they can feed these 3 crores of tanks and check dams have to be constructed people and save them from their plight and to see that water does not go away from misery. As against this amount, the Central those areas and the water percolates so that Government has given a very meagre amount. the water can be replenished in order to The Central Team went there and visited all improve the underground water table. the places. They say the plight of the people there and their crops withering away. They I would request the Central Government made some recommendations. But the amount which the Central Government has sanctio to allot sufficient funds for drinking water ned to the State Government is very meagre. also. The people are experiencing a great It does not even touch a fringe of the prob difficulty. Their distress and misery is beyond lem. It is not sufficient even to maintain the human endurance. 1 would request that from people for a few weeks. The people are the Tungabhadra water may be diverted to this area for drinking purposes. May be, left to their fate. some lift also would be necessary. At least 1 would like to know from the Hon. drinking water should be provided for the Minister whether it is correct to say that hapless people in the area who arc thirsting the Stale Government had demanded as early for even water, as in July or August last year Rs 369 crores in order to save the people from the ravage PROF. N.G. RANG A (Guntur) : From of this acute famine. 1 want to know when the Telugu Ganga it could be lifted up. 249 Famine and drought CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Famine and drought 250 conditions conditions SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY : districts like Srikakulam, Vizianagaram and As Prof. Ranga says, it could be lifted up Visakhapatnam. All these reports and memo from the Telugu Ganga. So, something has randa of the State Government are exami tD be done about providing drinking water ned. There is no perennial source of water. In the circumstances, I would like to know from the As I mentioned in reply to the question Hon. Minister the amount they have allotted of the Hon. Member from Karnataka, it is for the purpose of providing drinking water. very difficult to keep pace with the claims of the State Governments. If you kindly just I would like to know from the Hon. have a look, in Andhra Pradesh the amount Minister what is the amount allotted and sought by the Government was Rs, 369.28 now to be allotted, in order to save the crores. As I was attempting to inform the hapless people from misery, hunger and Hon. House it is not only this package which thirst. the Central team or the High level Commit 1 request the Hon. Minister to take a tee recommended for sanction after making an compassionate view, to understand this human on-the-spot visit of the drought-affected areas problem, the gigantic problem of labour and in a given State. There are already schemes come forward with sufficient funds. from the 20-point programme launched by the Government of India which directly are helping the drought-affected areas such as Not only this. There are rains in Andhra the employment-oriented schemes of NREP, Pradesh in July. By the end of July, sowing RLEGP, and rural drinking water schemes operation commences. Until then, labour will of ARWSP, MNEP and IBS. not have any work. Labour has to be main tained and they should be provided with Under these schemes, in 1984-85 in some, employment till the end of July. For Andhra Pradesh alone, the amount has that purpose also, funds are needed. I request been : the Hon. Minister to take a compassionate view, understand this problem and allot Rs. (Crores) sufficient money to save these people from NREP 22 70 hunger and starvation deaths. RLEGP 49.50 SHRI BUTA SINGH : Most of the ARWSP 7.43 points raised by the Hon. Member are sug MNEP 25.00 gestions to be considered for providing relief IBS 3.00 to the drought-affected areas in the State of Andhra Pradesh. No doubt, Andhra Pradesh witnessed prolonged drought. The State wit If you sum up all this, it comes to rou nessed a prolonged dry spell from 3rd August ghly Rs. 108 crores. In addition to that, for 40 days in most parts of the State. The Rs. 54.42 crores were released to the State dry spell, occurred at a time when the already on the recommendation of the High Level sown crops over large areas were still tender. Committee. If you add up all this, it is a The State Government has reported that sizable assistance from the Central Govern while the very early sown crops could survive ment to the State Government. though subject to the moisture, the crops sown later were particularly affected. 19 out Some long-term measures are being of 23 districts have been affected by drought attempted in some States as suggested by on account of late onset of monsoon and Hon. Members to raise the water level and prolonged dry spell during the rainy season. to introduce certain drought resistant seeds The most acutely affected region of the State in these districts which have become chroni was Rayalaseema as mentioned by the Hon. cally drought-prone and where the farmers Member. This area has teen unfortunately a could grow certain crops even during difficult chronic drought-affected area, in the past conditions. three or four years. We have realised it. About Andhra Pradesh, I must say that The State Government has submitted the State Government must make full use of a supplementary memorandum also about the facilities available through the Indian the drought-conditions in the other three Council of Agricultural Research. There is 251 Famine and dronght APRIL 2, 1985 Famine and drought 252 conditions condition* already an Institute in Hyderabad. ICRISAT activities. I was not saying that these were is also primarily meant for arid zone/speci specially for the drought-affected areas. But ally to areas which are prone to drought. how can you do without these ? If you look ICRISAT can give a lot of help. There is a at the activities which are attempted through Central Institute in Hyderabad itself which these schemes, you will find that they are helps the farmers in developing crops which directly connected with drought-affected areas can stand the vagaries of nature, specially such as, agriculture, soil and water conserva under drought conditions—the Dry Land Farm tion, etc. 1 am sure that these will go a long Institute at Hyderabad. The State Govern way in helping the farmers affected by dro- ment must make the best use of the research ught-irrigation, forestry, pasture, animal hus being made and they must also utilise the bandry, sericulture, fisheries, horticulture, services of the scientists and the extension cooperation, rural electrification. Then emp services which are available to the State. loyment is provided to those landless labou rers who are also affected along with the I will definitely go into the various points farmers in the drought-prone areas. We pro raised by the hon. Member for meeting the vide them, through RLEGP, sufficient situation in those districts which he has men employment to enable them to sustain their tioned. families during the difficult conditions. These are supplementary projects under the 20 SHRI K. RAMCHANDRA REDDY : point Programme. As I mentioned, the State The hon. Minister is trying to club the Government must make the best use of the Rs-100 crores given in the usual course with facilities available with them. Unfortunately, the Rs.50 crores that are allotted in times of here, in this case I should not have said, but distress. That amount of Rs.100 crores I must say-the State Government has not should not be clubbed with this; that is a availed of the opportunities provided by the normal grant, and those Rs.100 crores which ICAR and the other Central Government are spent on NREP, RLEGP and other pro agencies, extension services, ctc. There is grammes do not reduce the intensity of the already a big Institute in Hyderabad to help drought. And in times of drought, talking the people in the devising ways and means, of amounts spent in the past is of in finding diversification in the mode of Jiving no use to the people who are suffering on agriculture, to enable them to fight out from hunger and are thirsting for water. The conditions^ under drought. Therefore, the amount of Rs.50 crores does not touch even State Government should make the best use the fringe of the problem; this is highly of the services available. No doubt, the hon. insufficient. At least take those worst-hit Member has made very valuable suggestions, districts and come forward to save those and w.e will go into them. As I mentioned, people who have been ravaged by successive the Government is already contemplating to famines. No Government has taken a com review the guidelines under the Eighth Fina passionate view or taken pity on them. Why nce Commission’s Report and definitely we not come forward with sufficient funds for will take into account all that the hon. permanent famine eradicatio.i ? Take those Member has suggested. districts which are the worst-hit, allot suffi cient funds, and save those people. Spend ing a few crores of rupees at the time of SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY : famine and then forgetting those districts for It is no use saying ‘Central Government’ or ever will not be of any use. Please take up ‘State Government’. People are suffering for a comprehensive programme, allot sufficient want of water and food. Some Government, funds by stages and see that those districts either State or Centre, must take up their which are famine-stricken, which have been cause and help them. I am giving a couplet invaded by famine every year are helped. here in Telugu : Something should be done to those people. You cannot expect them to suffer for decades Endina Yullagodu Irigimpadavadu together. You must understand their plight, Pandina Yullavaku Frabhulante you must take a compassionate view; have pity on them and do something. It means the Ministry is telling that we have got so much of paddy, so much of SHRI BUTA SINGH : I was only trying foodgrains and talks of places where people to highlight that these are the supplementary are rich and affluent, but they forget about 253 Famine and drought CHA1TRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Famine and drought 254 conditions conditions places where people are dying for want of After analysing the rainfall data for water and food. This is not going to satisfy 100 years preceding 1974, it was found anybody. A friend of mine has written : that while the normal rainfall during the monsoon months in North-East India is Ankalandunde Abhtvridhi Sungapaduku about 129 cms with 13% co-efficient varia bility, the same for North-West India is 54 The developmental activities are only cms and 22% respectively. Thus in North just in figures. They are of the length of the East India the yearly fluctuation in rainfall arm-pit from the tip of the hand to the arm ■ may not affect much the agriculture and pit. It has not touched the fringe of the pro hydroelectric power generation, the same will blem. Let a Commission be appointed to see affect North-West India adversely. The posi whether there is any improvement in their tion will be aggravated in abnormal years of living conditions, how they are feeling, how lesser rainfall. they are eking out their livelihood, how they are starving and how semi-starved and half- Again by analysing the rainfall departure naked they arc in those places. The Central from the normal during the monsoon months Government should come forward and help over the North-West and peninsular India these half-clothed and half-starved people. during the last 100 years preceding 1974... It is no use blaming the Central government or the State Government. Even if the State MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please be Government does not help us, is the Central brief. Don’t go into the whole thing. Please Government willing to come forward and take up the recent situation. help these people form the recurrence of famine conditions ? DR. V. VENKATESH : ... It has been found that there were 30 occasions (years) in SHRI BUTA SINGH : I am not blaming North-West India and 20 occasions (Years) I am only appealing to the State Government in peninsular India when rainfall was below to please make the best use of the facilities normal by more than 10%. This would mean available with the Central Government. that on the average near drought condition may occur in North-West India every 3 DR. V. VENKATESH (Kolar) : Now years and in the peninsular India every. this drought condition is a continuing pheno 5 years. The contemporary figure for rainfall menon in this country. 20% of the area in of below normal by more than 20% which is India is periodically subjected to the ons a condition of a servere droughl, is found to laught of droughts leading to huge losses of occur every 6 years over North-West India agricultural production and livestock wealth and every 10 years in peninsular India. in addition to creating scarcity of drinking water and power generation. The total effect Past records also show that during 1965 is untold misery to the people inhabiting 66, 1972, 1975, 1979 and 1982 the country these areas. Huge amounts have been spent experienced severe drought. It is against this by the Government to provide relief after background that a need was felt and the the occurrence of droughts. But apart from prought Prone Area Programme was formu providing the much needed relief at the lated. The development of these areas is a appropriate time, such expenditure has not most urgent and challenging task. helped in solving the basic problem of increas ing the productivity of these areas reducing Although this programme has been in thereby the impact of scarcity of droughts on operation since the Fourth Plan period, it human and cattle population. Ecological har taken shape as an Integrated Area Deve deterioration because of deforestation and lopment Programme only during the fifth and excessive grazing has led to serious soil ero sixth five year plan. sion and decrease in productivity of the land. Because of increasing population, both human The DPAP Which covers 557 blocks and cattle, even the marginal lands unsuitable spread over 74 districts in the country is for cultivation have been brought under the now the Integrated Area Development Pro plough. The fate of the farmers living in gramme in the agricultural sector and aims these areas has been most uncertain and very at optimum utilisation of land, water and few of them have been able to live above the livestock resources, reducing the severity of subsistence level. the impact of drought, restoration of the eco 255 Famirte and drought APRIL 2, 1985 Famine and drought 256 conditions conditions logical balance and stabilising the income of pandingirrigation potencial—particularly minor the people particularly the weaker sections of irrigation—and extensive use of ground water, the society. mass bunding, etc, should also include short duration crops, contingent crops, production The basic object of the programme has plans, and massive infra-structure develop been restoration of economical balance thro ment in the traditionally drought hit areas. ugh scientific development of land, water There should be creation of fodder bank for cattle and other resources. The arid zone of cattle and foodgrains buffcrslock in rural Rajasthan, the dry lands of Andhra Pradesh areas. and some parts of Maharastra,Haryana,Bihar, Orrissa and Tamil Nadu are usually most Apart from all these measures, the deve affected by the cyclical phenomenon of lopment of dry agricultural technology, post drought. This year Andhra Pradesh and Kar harvest technology and dairying is also neces nataka have had distinctive problems. sary. It is required that traditionally drought prone States should adopt both short-term In the case of Karnataka, there are dro and long-term drought-fighting programmes ught conditions for the third successive year such as connecting South Indian rivers and with 8,500 villages in 100 taluks of 16 dis North Indian rivers. Thereby we solve both tricts out of 19 reeling under the intensity of our national food and employment problem. the dry spell. In Andhra Pradesh 19 out of Therefore, I once again strees upon connec 23 districts have been hit by drought. ting the South Indian rivers and North Indian rivers, namely, Ganga-Cauvery project, It is a quirk of nature that Karnataka which has 5 out of 14 very heavy rainfall SHRI BUTA SINGH : The Hon. Mem areas in the country is forced to seek drought ber has given a very good lecture on the long relief from the centre in some years. Though term and short-term measures to be taken by the Stats has some regions of heavy rainfall the Government to meet the situation especi 80 per cent of the taluks of the State fall under ally in the drought areas. the category of semi-arid regions. This year drought in Karantaka is most upsetting in 13.00 hrs the sense that there was enough rainfall thro For the information of the Hon. Mem ugh July. The consumption of fertilisers rose ber let me read out the Special Services made by 23 per cent over last years figures and available to Agricultural Interests. These are sowing of high-yielding varieties of seeds the following : increased by 14 per cent but dry weather prevailed for 40 days after sowing. It left 1. Long-range forecast the fields perched and agricultural officials (a) Onset of monsoon issued by first bewildered since the drought was more serious week of April for Kerala coast. than the one that occurred in 1974-75. Ac cording to the reports the wayward monsoon (b) Total quantum of rainfall for Mon has badly affected nearly 60 per cent of the soon (June-September) issued sown areas of the State. The causes leading around first week of June for North to periodic drought conditions are many. For West India and Peninsula. instance only 25 per cent of the cultivable area in the State is being provided with as (c1 This forecast is reviewed by 10th of sured irrigation. Most of the other dry land August each year. depends on monsoons; for agriculture opera (d) Winter total precipitation forecast tion. for North-West India during Janu The drought-fighting programme should ary for the months of January to naturally include short-term and long-term March. approaches. Since all the States where there (e) Monthly rainfall forecast for Mete is recurrence of dry spells have been able to orological sub-discussion* every chalk out short-term schemes, there is need month. for greater emphasis on long-term pro grammes to give substance to short-term 2. Mediuin-range forecast schemes. The long-term remedial steps should naturally include central programme for ex- Weekly forecasts are issued every Thurs- 257 Famim and drought CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Famine and drought 258 conditions conditions day to all forecasting centres as guidance MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : If there is to their working and for planning pur any new proposal from the Member, he will poses to Government agencies. take it up. He is asking him to submit a pro posal. He is ready to take it up. He wants to 3. Short-mnge forecasts consider it. (a) Farmers Weather Bulletins at pre SHRI S, JAIPAL REDDY : We are en sent issued by 17 forecasting centres couraged by such optimism. of IMD at all the State capitals. , This forecast is area specific and MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Now, Shri districtwise. Dharam Pal Singh Malik. This forecast is for 36 hours with outlook for next 2 days. These [Translation] are broadcast regularly by AIR Sta SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK tions of the region in their farmers’ (Sonepat) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, our programme. country is facing a big challenge in the (b) General forecasts and warnings for form of famine and drought today. A large 24 hours and 48 hours are issued part of the country is drought-affected and by all the 17 Meteorological Centres scarcity of water in the fields is badly telling and broadcast by all concerned AIR upon the economic condition of the country. stations. The Hon. Minister has said that there has b een drought in the country for the last three (c) Agromet Advisory Service : Agro or four years, but the situation in the country met Advisory Centres have been this year is still worse. There has been a established. shortage of power as well. I would say that in some states even fodder and drinking water These advisory services contain weather is not available. I agree that our Govern forecast and advice to farmers’ agricultural ment have made efTorts to solve this problem, utility for 2 to 4 days. These are prepared but the people have to face the fury of by meteorologists in consultation with the floods and drought every year due to non State agricultural experts once or twice a completion of some of the on-going week. These are broadcast by the AIR sta projects on time. The Government should tions of the region. take some effective steps to solve this pro blem and endeavour to complete the schemes The I.M.D. has established 9 stations at which are lying incomplete as soon as possi New Delhi, Pune, Madras, Bhopal, Calcutta, ble. Patna, Bhubaneswar, Chandigarh and Sri nagar. Another 8 are being established in the You know that Madhya Pradesh, Rajas current year (1985-86) at Trivandrum, Bang than and some other states have been severely alore, Hyderabad, Ahmedabad, Jaipur, Luck hit by drought. Haryana too is entirely in now, Gangtok and Gauhati. the grip of drought. The level of water in the wells in Haryana has gone down consi These arc the various steps which Govern derably All the village ponds have gone dry. ment are taking so that the whole country is The people are facing a great difficulty of covered by meteorological information on drinking water. They are not getting drinking long-term, medium and short-term basis. water in cities like Sonepat and Gohana due So far as the linkage of rivers is concern to shortage of electricity. I took a round of ed, I take the proposition from the Hon. my constituency after the elections. The Member. I am sure the Hon. Member will people of that area have been making a very be able to submit his proposal. We will have strong demand that arrangements for water it examined. If there is already something, we and electricity should be made urgently. will pick it wp and proceed further. It is a These being examination days, the students good idea. . are not able to study due to shortage of electricity. Sonepat, Rohtak, Bhiwani, Jind SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (Mahbub- and Hissar in Haryana have been severely nagar) : It is only for examination ! They affected by drought. The labourers are not have been examining it for three decades 1 getting work as these are no crops* All the 259 Famine and drought APRIL 2, 1985 Famine and drought 260 conditions conditions labourers arc leaving their villages in search years back, but the digging work in the of work elsewhere. But, I am sorry to point Punjab area has not been taken up as yet, out that the Hon. Minister has made no although a sum of Rs. 41 crores was deposi mention of Haryana in his statement. 30 to ted by the Haryana Government for this 50 per cent of the gram and wheat crops purpose and, instead, the money spent by have been damaged. Whatever be the report the Government of Haryana on digging work of the Slate Government, if you go there in ils own area is proving useless. Therefore, personally, you can see the condition of the the S. Y. L. Canal should be completed as farmers there. 1 would go to the extent of early as possible. saying that there is no water in the fields of the farmers, but their eyes are full of water. At the same time, I would also like to say that sea water is very precious. I would I would also like to say that the famine request the Hon. Minister to pay some Code on the basis of which the Government attention to it. A variety of minerals can be sends the report to the effect ihat such and extracted from it after it is purified. Japan such areas are drought affected, has become has extracted even uranium from sea water. obsolete now. It was prepared during the Sea water is purified through the desalina British time and 1 want that changes should tion process or through the reverse osmosis be made in it in consonance with present day method. The system functions in the same conditions. way as the kidney functions inside the body. By this process all types of undesirable ele The question of drought is linked with ments can be seperated from sea water and floods. The drains should be deepened and the pure water thus obtained can be used for widened in time. But, the funds for this irrigation in the fields. Government should work are sanctioned by the Government make efforts to purify this water. Apart from only when the floods have actually occurred this, research can also be carried out for and at that time, those funds are misused. having artificial rain. I can say about my state that no arrange ments of any kind have been made there to check the floods. Neither the drains are I would like to say one thing about cleaned nor they are widened or deepened, electricity. Government are taking enough interest in the use of solar energy. I want but in May-June when floods are about to occur, the funds are sanctioned and the funds that still greater interest should be taken in this field, because we are not able to so sanctioned are misused because the area gets flooded and no one knows whether the generate sufficient electriciiy due to shortage drains have been dug and cleaned or not. of water. There is only one solution to it and that is that we should generate electri 60 per cent of rain waters flows into the city through solar energy system, so that the Bay of Bengal, but they are not utilised, shortage of electricity could be removed. although they can be utilised by constructing reservoirs alongside the rivalets at a distance All our schemes and projects of electri of every 4 to 6 or 10 miles and thus crops city should be completed on time. The delay can be protected from drought and floods. in their completion involves — That in other respects, the Rules of with the result that work in the big and Procedure of this House relating to small indusries has nearly come to a stand Parliamentary Committees will apply still and they are suffering heavy losses. with such variations and modifications Power is in short supply even for agricultural as the Speaker may make; and purposes. There has been no power at all in a large number of villages for weeks —That this House recommends to the together. Means of irrigation have also come Rajya Sabha that the Rajya Sabha to a stop. The shortage of power in the do join in the said Joint Committee urban and rural areas has adversely affected and to communicate to this House the drinking water schemes and the people the names of members to be appoint are not getting drinking water. Due to load ed by the Rajya Sabha to the Joint shedding in the evening, life in small towns Committee.” has been disrupted. Due to non-supply of electricity to coldstorages as per their requi The motion was adopted. rements, the potato stored therein is likely to be damaged. There has been a steep decline in thermal BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE and hydel power generation in U.P. There have been many incidents of fire in Obra \English\ Thermal Power House which is the main Fourth Report source for power generation. The Electricity Board has failed to check such incidents. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Now Shri Frequent strikes by the engineers and the H.K.L. Bhagat. employees had impeded the generation and distribution of Power. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): The present power crisis is the worst of 1 beg to move : all the past crises. I would request the Cen tral Government to take effective steps to “That this House do agree with the Fourth Report of the Business solve the power crisis in U. P. Also, the Central Government should extend full co- Advisory Committee presented to the House on the 1st April, 1985.” operaticn for increasing the generation of power. It has become absolutely necessary MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The question that in addi ion to N. T. P. C., power should is : be obtained from other States for U. P. “ That this House do agree with the (ii) Need to give compensation to the Fourth Report of the Business farmers for damage to crops due to Advisory Committee presented to the non-availability of water for irri House on the 1st April, 1985.” gation purposes and demand for the release of more water into the canals The motion was adopted. in Rajasthao SHRI BIRBAL (Ganganagar) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to raise a matter MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 of urgent public importance in the House under Rule 377. The Rabi crop of the culti [Translation] vators in the Command Area of the Indira Canal has suffered great damage for want of (i) Need to take effective steps to over water for irrigation purposes and in the come acute power shortage in U.P. absence of electricity for tube-wells. Besi des, adequate watar is not being released in SHRI ZAINUL BASHER (Ghazipur): the canals, with the result that irrigation has Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, 1 want to raise a become almost impossible and there is great matter in the House under Rule 377. U.P. is resentment among the farmers on this account. facing acute power crisis at present. The State Government have resorted to power- I would, therefore, request the Government shedding on a large scale in the entire State, to direct the State Government to provide 269 Matters under rule 377 CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Matters under rule 377 270 compensation to the farmers whose crops [English] have been damaged and also to release more water in the canals. It would be in the inte (iv) Need to set op Integral Rail Coach rest of the farmers if arrangements are made Factory at Kaizpet for providing subsidy to the farmers for pur chasing generators for their tube-wells. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY (Hanam- konda) : Warangal is a backward district in Andhra Pradesh. There is no industry till (iii) Need to provide financial assistance today. After so many years of struggle the for the completion of Sagarmal Gopa Central Government was pleased to order a link project of Rajasthan Canal servey for setting up a Rail Coach Factory at Kazipet. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN (Banner) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the The Railway Board sent a Rail India construction work of the Rajasthan Canal Technical and Economic Services (RITES) has been going on at a fast pace and this Committee for survey and finding location. Canal has reached upto the Mohangarh town The above committee inspected Kazipet and of District Jaiselmer. It would provide water recommended to Central Government for for irrigation purposes in an area of 50,000 that Rail-Coach Factory at Kazipet. acres, with the result that desert areas would be metamorphosed. The State of Andhra Pradesh came for ward to extend full cooperation and offered The recent decision of the State Govern free land, water, power and other require ment to extend the Lilva Branch of the ments. Rajasthan Canal, which is now known as Sagarmal Gopa, upto Gadra Road of Barmer On January 21, 1985, 24 Members of district has been welcomed by the people of Parliament submitted memorandum to Hon. the State. Prime Minister. The initial survey of the Canal for Warangal District is a very backward linking Sagarmal Gopa Branch with Gadra area in Telengana and the Central Govern Road has been started. It would involve ment should take interest in establishing additional digging of 185 km. stretch of the industries there. said Branch so that the water may reach Gadra Road. Thereby permanent arrange-. While matter stood so, the Prime Minister ments could be made for the irrigation of declared that a Rail Coach Factory will be 2.5 lakh hectares of land. set up in Punjab. - This Branch would be constructed right I would request the Central Government on the Indo-Pak border. It would have strat to set up a Rail Coach Factory at Kazipet egic importance and would prove to be a and solve the unemployment problem because boon for the people of the border areas. of which the extremist activities are increasing daily. An expenditure of Rs. 50 crores is likely to be incurred on the construction of the (v) Failure of the Indian Missions to said Branch. The financial condition of the provide help to the stranded Indians State Government is not sound enough to in various cities of Iran and Iraq bear this expenditure. I therefore, earnestly request the Central Government to provide SHRI ABDUL RASHID KABULI financial assistance of Rs. 50 crores for the (Srinagar) : As a result of the recent flare up completion of the Sagarmal Gopa Project in the war between Iran and Iraq the conflag at the earliest with a view to make water ration has resulted in open attacks on civi available in the Banner and Jaiselmer lian population of the two countries devastat districts, the border area and the backward ing residential areas and killing innocent Thar desert area of Rajasthan, so that the people. This development has created fear project could be completed in three years and psychosis among Indians living in Baghdad the desert could bloom. and Tehran and other important cities, where 271 Matters under rule 377 APRIL 2, 1985 Matters under rule 377 272 they work for the respective governments and Alwar town is a district headquarter with private agencies Li hospitals, engineering com a population of 1.5 lakhs. It is an indust plexes and business enterprieses. Most of these rial town and its industrial growth is remar people are waiting for evacuation. One kable, It needs to be linked with Delhi city hundred such doctors hailing from Jammu directly by a road. Urban Improvement and Kashmir State are working in Iran who Trust, Alwar and National Capital Region are finding Tehran and other cities unsafe Plan Implementation Authority Alwar (Rajas due to air raids and bombings, are anxious than) had already formulated and forwarded to return to India. But for the lack of to the Ministry of Works and Housing, pro response from Foreign Affairs Ministry and posals for construction of two important diplomatic mission at Tehran they are stran roads from Alwar town to Delhi city. First ded. Their relations in J & K State are proposal is that a road from Alwar to Bhi- extremely worried and anxiously waiting for wandi via Kishangarh-Bas and from Bhiwandi their safe arrival in India. to Delhi via Bilaspur should be taken up for construction from N.C.R. funds. The second Indian citizens in Baghdad and other proposal is that a road from Alwar to Delhi important towns of Iraq are also facing the xia Kot-Kasim and Budhi Bawal should be same ordeal. Diplomatic mission there also taken up for construction so that a direct has been found wanting in foresight and road from Alwar town to Delhi city via duties towards its countrymen. Khairthal, Kot-Kasim, Budhi Bawal, Nan- orampur-Bas and Dharuheda may come in Unfort jnately Indian missions abroad existence. have not been able to provide succour and I, therefore, urge upon the Minister of necessary help to the Indian nationals in hour Works and Housing, Govt, of India to of peril and have exposed, themselves to approve the above two roads and accord bitter criticism at home. The time has come financial sanction from the National Capital that we should rejuvenate these missions and Region Plan Funds so that construction work weil equip them to the challenge of the times. at the site may be taken in hand immediately. The Government of India should in these (vil) Demand for sanction of special grant abnormal and ever deteriorating conditions to Orissa to relieve acute water short in war torn Iran and Iraq take necessary age in drought-affected areas in the steps to evacuate the Indians working there State on war footing and in this regard place Air [Translation] India and other facilities readily available to the affected people, •SHRI SOMNATH RATH (Aska) : The State of Orissa has suffered a series of natu (vl) Need for construction of reads from ral calamities like cyclone, floods and drought Alwar to Bhiwandl and Alwar to Delhi in the past. But the present drought pre and giving financial assistance from vailing in many parts of Orisse is one of the National Capital Region Plan Funds worst the State has ever witnessed. The rain fall is conspicuously absent in Ganjam dis SHRI RAM SINGH YADAV (Alwar) : trict since last six months. Abserce of rain The main objective of the National Capital fall has led to the acute scarcity of drinking Region Plan is to achieve integrated develop water in almost all villages in that district. ment of satellite towns located within a peri The people are passing their days in grtat phery of one hundred miles from the Natio difficulty. , nal Capital, that is Delhi, Alwar town and areas of Tahsils of Behrore, Bansur, A small number of tubewells have been Tijere, Mandawar, Kishangarh-Bas and Ram- installed in some identified villages. But there garh of District Alwar, Rajasthan fall in the are many unidentified villages in Ganjam National Capital Region. and other districts in Orissa which are also facing drinking water problems. K is regret The Central theme of the Plan is to link table that no steps have been taken to provide towns of this region directly to Delhi by road and to provide infrastructural facilities for *The speech was originally delivered in planned development of that area. Oriya. 273 Matters under rule 377 CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Matters under rule 377 274 drinking water in those village. The Govern expansion of the plant have become impera ment of Orissa is financially not sound to tive. According to my information, the bear the cost of launching immediate drink experts have also given suggestions to this ing water supply programme in all the identi- effcct. In this connection, estimates have tied and unidentified villages. The people of been prepared by the FCI management, but that area may have to face untimely death due to certain reasons, the scheme is not if steps are not taken to supply potable- being implemented, with the result that the drinking water. workers of the plant and the people of Gorakhpur are feeling concerned over it. As such, I demand that a special grant of Rs.10 crores be sanctioned to accelerate potable drinking water supply programme in I, therefore, draw the attention of the Ganjam and other drought affected villages Government and the FCI management to of the State of Orissa in on a war footing. wards this and urge upon them that the bottle necks in the immediate implementation of the aforesaid scheme may be removed and the (viii) Demand for setting up Television plant may be expanded. centre in Phulbani district of Orissa *SHRI RADHAKANTA DIGAL (Phul (x) Need to take steps to check in increa bani) : Phulbani is predominantly a tribal sing incidents of air crashes from and Harijan populated district in Orissa. The bird-hits district has remained backward for many reasons. In the absence of TV facilities many [English] people in this district are not aware of the SHRI CHINTAMANT PAN1GRAHI welfare schemes under implementation in that (Bhubaneswar) : The birds flying over air district. Phulbani district is situated at a port premises pose a grave threat to air height of 3000 ft. above the sea level. If a traffic. If we go into the incidents of plane TV centre is installed in that district, the crashes which took place in the past, we will people of neighbouring Ganjam, Koraput, find that birds hitting the plane have led to Bolangir districts can also witness the TV accidents in many cases. programmes. What attracts the birds is the food litte In addition to this the new TV centre red all over the airport premises. Villagers can promote the folk songs and dances of staying near the airport slaughter animals. those areas. As such, I request the Minister Residential areas which fall under air traffic of Information and Broadcasting to take immediate steps to set up a TV Centre at lanes also cause problems. The refuse dum ped by slaughter houses and meat shops in Phulbani during the current financial year. the open attract birds. This is a more serious problem as aeroplanes fly at a low height (ix) Need to modernise the fertilizer plant over these areas. of the Food Corporation of India at Gorakhpur In order to escape from the chances of SHRI MADAN PANDEY (Gorakhpur): collision the following steps should be taken Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, with the establis- forthwith : ment of the fertilizer plant in Gorakhpur, the people of the area have been benefited. There should be no slaughter house Thousands of people have got employment and residential areas within a radium and the valuable fertilizer has also boosted of 8 kms of airport. the agricultural economy of the area by way of increased production. But since the esta- The airport authorities should be blisment of this plant, there has been consi directed to consult MCD, NDMC and derable progress in the field of technology the various airlines to get rid of the and technique. Therefore, the renewal of its bird menace. machines as per the new techniques and the Special arrangements should be made to *The speech was originally delivered in keep the airport premises and aerodrome Oriya. grounds neat and clean. 275 Demands for Grants APRIL 2,1985 Demands for Grants 276 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 (xl) Demand for conveying the feelings have recommended Rs. 30 crores for compen of tt»e Indian people to Pakistan satory allowance, Rs. 37.83 crores for staff Government for saving life of quarters, and Rs. 47.05 crores for building Ayaz Santoo sentenced to up infrastructure. In this context, I would death by Pak Government like to point out that 1 come from a tribal district where about 50 per cent of the posts SHRI SAIFUDD1N CHOWDHURY of Medical Officers are lying vacant mainly (Katwa) : It i9 with grave concern that we for want of residential accommodation. 1 heard the news that Ayaz Samoo, a labour think, if this amount of Rs. 37.83 crores, leader and fighter for democracy in Pakistan, which has been recommended by the Finance has been sentenced to death by a military Commission, is spent properly in tribal areas, court on 1 March, 1985 on a charge of this problem may not occur in future. There murder. He is in the prime of his youth fore, I would request the Hon. Minister to being aged 22 years, and his precious life was see that this money L not diverted for any been sought to be cut short in a most unde other purpose except tor the construction of mocratic manner. Ayaz Samoo is counting staff quarters. his last days in the jail. Democratic people having knowledge of this case in the interna tional year of the youth cannot remain silent. Next I come to the question of develop I would like the feelings of the people of ment of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled India to be conveyed to Pakistan Government Tribes in tribal areas. As regards the econo so that the life of this young man is saved. mic development of SCs and STs, it is quite encouraging and a large number of families have been covered during the Sixth plan. But I would like to point out that the condition 13.40 hrs. of these tribal s in the matter of educationg is miserable and rather pathetic. I would like DEMANDS FOR GRANTS (GENERAL), to mention that 95 per cent of the drop-outs 1985-86 there are at the primary level. The State Ministry of Home Affairs— contd. , Government is trying to build hostels and provide food and longing to minimise ihe [English] number of drop-outs. It is mainly due to extreme poverty that the tribals could not MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Now we give education to their children and they are going to take up the discussion on Grants continue to do so. I would, therefore, request for the Ministery of Home Affairs. Already the Hon. Home Minister to come to the we hav? exhausted 3 hours and 50 minutes, rescue of the State Government and give that is, almost four hours. Only four hours them more money for building hostels and are left ftow. Therefore, I would request the for providing food and lodging to the child hon. Members to be precise in their speeches ren so that this miserable condition of the and not take long lime. Shri K. Pradhani tribals could be reduced to a considerable was on his legs yesterday. He may continue extent. now. Only three minutes more are left for him. I now come to the Dandakamya Project. SHRI K. PRADHANI (Nowrangpur) : There are two zonal units of this Project in Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I was talking of my constituency, one is Umerkot and the other is Malkangiri. The Project authorities the recommendations of the National Police Commission yesterday. I would request the say that they have completed the rehabilita Hon. Minister to place their recommenda tion work in Umerkot Zone. I have visited tions before the Chief Ministers’ Conference a large number of displaced settlers’ villages and have found that there is scarcity of and accept as many as possible to improve the performance of police in this country. quarters. A large number of tubewells, cons tructed about 20 to 25 years back, are not Next I come to thequestion of upgradation functioning properly. The open wells have of administration in tribal areas. The Eighth dried up. The roads are without repair and Finance Commission has recommended Rs. the main road connecting Papadahandi with 114.88 crores for the upgradation of admini Umerkot, is in a very bad condition; the stration in tribal areas. Out of this, they buses cannot ply properly on that road. I 277 Demands for Grants CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 278 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 approached the Dandakarnya Project autho ing freedom struggle are starving and that rities and requested them for the lepair of they are deprived of any assistance. 1 hope these wells and roads but most probably the Hon. Minister will take note of it and they are avoiding it because they are win examine their cases and pass them as early ding up the Project this year. The State as possible. Government also says that they have not received charge of those roads and villages. SHRI S. JA1PAL REDDY (Mahbub- In this way, this has become no man's zone. nagar) : I want to raise a point of order. In Neither the Government of India nor the the House now we do not have even a single State Government is taking up the develop Cabinet Minister. There must at least be one ment works in that area properly. Now, I Cabinet Minister representing the Govern would like to speak about Malkangiri zone. ment. The rehabilitation work is in progress there. 1 visited a large number of villages in this SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA (Pali) : area. In this area there is an irrigation dam Every Minister is a Cabinet Minister. called Satiguda dam. It irrigates many vil lages, but t+ie problem is that at some places SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : It is a defi its canal is so low that the people there can nite point of order. Is this the way the not utilise its water. Though the settler far Government would like to deal with the mers are very hard-worRing and they do question of demands ? I am not asking for very good agricultural work, they cannot the presence of all the Cabinet Minister, but utilise water of this dam bccause of the low what I am pointing out is that we do not level of the canal. There is a Balimela hydro have even a single Cabinet Minister in the electric project there, very close to it there is House. a power house also. Even then some of these villages do not have electricity. Nor MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Actually it can the people there have water for irrigation. is lunch time. Discussion during this hour is I have requested the Dandakarniya authori extended for our convenience. In that situa ties either to give the people of this area tion at least some Ministers are there and electricity to have lift irrigation or to examine they will look after it. Moreover the con a proposal to provide a fresh canal from cerned Minister is present here. another point so that suitable irrigation in this area is made feasible. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRl- MATI RAM DULARI S1NHA) : I have Lastly I would refer to only one point. taken note of it. J come from an area where large number of people sacrificed their life during the freedom SHRI ZAINUL BASHER (Ghazipur) ; struggle and a large number of people were At least Minister of state or a Cabinet put in jail. About two to three hundred Minister must be present in the House. people of this area are getting freedom figh ters’ pension. I have farwarded some cases MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : It is because to the Ministry. Those cases are still pending. of the lunch time and we are discussing it I had a talk with the concerned Joint Secre foregoing the lunch break. tary, but even then these cases have not yet been finalised due to one reason or the other. SHRIMATI RAM DULARI S1NHA : I would request the Ministry to expedite The Home Minister is busy with the Prime these cases in consultation with the State Minister discussing some important facts. Government. It seems in inany cases some or other documents are missing. In some MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : He is not cases certain tribe certificates are missing insisiiing like that. He is insisting that some while in others Scheduled Castes certificate Cabinet Minister must be there. is missing or some other thing is missing. I am very definite that these documents were SHRI ZAINUL BASHER : The Home submitted to the Ministry with proper care. Minister should be here. The convention de I personally did it, but now I find that some mands that the Home Minister should be or the otter documents are missing. The here. I have all respect for her, but the result is that these people who suffered dur* Home Minister should be here, 279 Demands for Grants APRIL 2, 1985 Demands for Grants 280 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : I would 25 years the anti-nationals are carrying on like to clarify Mr. Basher. He wants one their espionage activities without any fear. It Cabinet Minister should be here. 1 will con is shocking. All these activities have taken vey this to the Parliamentary Affairs Minis place before the very eyes of the people who ter to ensure this. pledged to the nation “the Government that works.” It is none other than the Govern SHRI ZAINUL BASHER : When impor ment and its intelligence agencics which are tant demands are being discussed, the Home responsible for all these unfortunate and Minister should be here. dangerous incidents. It is really a shame that we could not protect our Prime Minister and MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : I have al the sacret documents involving the security ready conveyed these things. of the nation. Not only that. The diplomats from our friendly countries were murdered in SHRIMATI RAM DULARI S1NHA : I have broad day light. The Government could not already stated that he is busy with the Prime get even a clue, leave alone apprehending the Minister. murderers. Four persons belonging to the diplomatic crops were murdered in the last SHRI ZA1NUL BASHER : She is three years In no case the Government wax very efficient Minister, there is no doubt, but successful in apprehending the culprits. I fail as per convention the Home Minister should to understand what the Government, our in be here. If he is busy for some time he may telligence and our police are doing ? be out, but he is mostly out. SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA : Sir, throughout the country and especial He was here all the time yesterday. Only ly in the capital city, the crime rate is go for a few minutes he is not here, but again ing up rapidly. Hardly we come across a day he is coming. when some back robbery, some loot or theft at some place or house has not taken place. Women are being burnt alive for not bringing [Translation] sufficient dowry with them. Harijans are being *SHRI SODE RAMA1AH (Bhadracha- butchered by rich landlords and other upper lam) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I take this castes just for the sin of raising their voice opportunity to invite the attention of the against the atrocities perpetrated on them. Government towards deteriorating law and Will there be any end to all these atrocities ? order situation, the falling standards of ad Like all other promises, the promise of the ministration, the atrocities on harijans, Government to put an end to these atrocities tribals, backward classes and women the in only remains a hollow promise. The figures efficiency of police and the unabated ospion- revealed in the parliament recently show an age activities— that are being undertaken in increase in the number of women burnt in the country today. I am speaking about these 1984 as compared to 1983. These figures per issues not only as a representative of the tain to the reported cases. There are many people but as one who understands their more which have gone unreported. There is problems. As a man who shared their grief, also an increase in the number of incidents i am highlighting these problems once again of rape and molestation of women. In 1982, and bringing them to the notice of the there were 5026 reported cases and in 1983 Government. there were 5298 reported cases of rape. Sir, I hold our intelligence set up respon Sir, the atrocities perpetrated on harijans, sible for all the dangerous activities which scheduled tribes and other weaker sections are going on in the country. First there was are endless. Just for the sin of demanding Larkins' case, then the murder of late Prime justice due to them, these unfortunate people Minister Smt. Indira Gandhi and now these are being killed in hundreds brutally. espionage activities. All these incidents prove beyond any doubt that our intelligence set The Government claims that they have up Is inadequate and inefficient. For the past done very much for the weaker sections. It is far from true. Had they put in action even a *The Speech was originally delivered in fraction of what they had said, I think, the Telugu. conditions of the weaker sections would have 281 Demands for Grants CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 282 (General) J985-86 (General) 1985-86 been far better. The amounts allocated for have medical facilities. If they wants to go their upliftment do not really reach these to any Government hospital, they must people. This amount is being swallowed by travel at least 25 miles. Even if they trek corrupt politicians and officials. the long roads and reach hospital, neither the doctors nor the medicines would be availa The allocations made for many of the ble. social welfare schemes are being diverted to enable the rich to line their pocket. Perhaps Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I will give just this is what the Congress mean by socialism. two instances to show how the Government neglects the minimum facilities. How they 13.53 hrs. neglect the hopes and aspirations of these Girijans. In 1962, the foundation stone was [SHRI SOMNATH RATH in the Chair ] laid for the Kovvada Reservoir by the then Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh, Shri Sir, I want to say a few things about Damodaram Sanjivayya. Now it is more the condition of the people in my consti than 23 years since the foundation stone was tuency. I hope, you know that repeesent a laid and not even a single brick was added reserved constituency. I come from a schedu to it till this day. Same is the fate of led tribe family. So 1 know what a miserable Polavaram Project. The former Chief Minis life they are leading. What I say about my ter Shri T. Anjiah laid the foundation stone people is equally applicable to all the tribals long back. But the construction work is yet living in various parts of the country. Sir, all to being. These two foundation stone will of you are civilised. You have TVs and air- remains as the tombstones of the aspirations conditioned houses and are leading a very of miserable adivasi people. comfartable life. All the pleasures are yours. But, Sir, do you know that lakhs of our tribal men know not what a TV is. Leave The Government promised ten years ago alone colour TV. They don’t know what an to establish an Aluminium factory at K.D. electric bulb is. They do not get a square Pet. So far that promise had not materialised. meal a day. Many of them eat leaves and On the other hand we hear the news that tumors to keep the boby and soul together. this proposed factory is being shifted to some Some of these leaves and tumors are poi other places. I do not know why the Go sonous. You will be surprised to know that vernment is treating the Girijans so lightly. these tribals have not seen a railway train. Are we not the citizens of this country ? These people go to bed at 6 o’clock in the Dan’t we have any rights ? How long are evening. Do you know why ? They cannot we supposed to live like this. ? afford to have kerosene lamp leave alone an electric lamp. If the above two projects are taken up, there will be a tremendous transformation in What is the reason for their backward the lives of Girijans in these areas. The water ness, ? The Government have done nothing and unemployment problems can be solved so far for their upiiftment. Every now and then the Government announces certain pro for ever. grammes for their development. But the fruits of development do not reach them. The My entire constituency has only one railway role of middle men is too well known. Sel station namely Chagallu. I am not asking for fish men exploit these innocent people in the any new railway station now. My only request name of their traditions and blind beliefs. is that all trains should stop at Chagallu. This Selfish can exploit them only when the has been the long standing demand of my people remain ignorant in the name of their people. Please concede at least this demand. traditions. These innocent people are more afraid of Government officials than God. Forest officials, contractors, traders are ex Sir, before concluding my speech, I once ploiting these Girijans and sucking their again request the Government to sanction and blood by terrorising them. allocate funds for Polavaram, Kovvada pro jects and Aluminium factory. Also, I request Sir, my people are becoming victims in for more industries in tribal areas for the the hands of village doctors since they do notdevelopment of the tribal people. 283 Demands for Grants APRIL 2, 1985 Demands for Grants 284 ( The importance of the Ministry of Home SHRTMATI RAM DU LARI SINHA : Affairs has increased day by day because of The Home Minister will accept your plea. the increasing spurt of chauvinistic and He will speak in Hindi. secessionist activities all over the country. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : I thank The document circulated in this connec you. But you will say that it is a State sub tion with the budget demands highlights a ject. They control the law and order number of objectives of this Ministry. These situation. objectives would have been complete if one item had been incorporated there, namely, Either, article 343 should be deleted coordination between States for harmonious or we should speak in our mother tonuge. relations. But, here it is felt that it is not possible to I would like to invite the specific atten express ourselves in any language other than tion of the Home Minister to the situation English. The speeches made here by you in the North Eastern areas. My friend from arc prepared by your Secretary. You repeat Nagaland Mr Konyak has made rcferencc the same sentences ag;iin and again. In to a number of problems and I would not Hindi it will take just, four minutes to say like to repeat all those things. ihe same thing. But you want to speak in English only. It is not correct that a com In 1972 the Government of India under mittee has been set up and now noth ng is the leadership of Shrimati Indira Gandhi done in Hindi. Sir, you please see the Minis gave birth to a number of States and Union ter’s file. You may not find a single note territories in that region in re-organising the in Hindi in it. Not a single note is prepared North Eastern areas. Along with that the in Hindi. All the notes will be in English. North Eastern Council was also constituted You can verify it from the documents avail to coordinate the various activities including able with him. the developmental activities in that area. SMT. RAM DULARI SINHA : My Now, in spite of 13 years of its existence mother tongue is Hindi and Urdu. the North Eastern Council has not been able to play an effective role. The first SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : Hindi question is whether there has been equitable is definitely the mother tongue, but all the distribution of the benefits of this Council. work is done in English. You say that My friend from Nagaland Mr. Konyak has progressive use of Hindi will be ensured in referred to the composition of the central offices, but it will not be ihrust upon staff in the H.Q. of the North Eastern anyone. A country, which has no language Council, Only one or two States get full of its own, is a dumb country. representation thereby monopolising all the 291 Dematrds for Grants APRIL 2, 1985 Demands for Grants 292 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 employment and other benefits of the H.Q. of to the Manipuri community and the Naturally the other constituent units and Manipuri language. The Manipur Govern the other communities are running a handi ment had taken up the matter with the capped race. There is not much need for Govenment of Assam. They had also taken any further explanation »on this point. I up the matter with the late Prime Minister, request the Hon. Home Minister to look Shrimati Indira Gandhi and she very righly into it. intervened and said that it was very unfor tunate and the Government of Assam should The Home Minister has been good have referred it to the Manipur Government enough to visit the North-Eastern areas only to ascertain the fact of the matter. Now, recently; he saw certain problems faced by we have come to know that the Tripura them first hand and he tried to solve them Government has also fallen in line with also. Assam. How could it happen ? The word ‘Manipuri’ is not a term so cheap to be used Now, I do not know why some States or prefixed or suffixed to the name of other communities. consider themselves very much isolated from their neighbours. They think that they are worlds apart from their neighbours. It is Now, another report has said that some quite in the fitness of things that the Home recommendation came from the Commis Minister had told the Chief Minister of sioner of Linguistic minorities. I want to Nagaland that it was very wrong on the know who this Commissioner is and what part of the Government of Nagaland to have his credentials are. What does he know arrested a number of officers from Manipur about the Manipuri language and what does passing through Nagaland on duty and he know about the Bishnupriya language ? treating them as criminals. It was a very The Bishnupriyas is a small community, unfortunate incident. Such things should hardly numbering about two lakhs If he not happen. Why should these Stales con wants to serve the cause of this community sider themselves as foreign to their neigh or its dialect, it should not be done in this bours ? The Hon. Home Minister should way. Manipuri is a great language, belong consider the question of coordination among ing to a great community whose mainland these States so that they could live harmo is manipur. There has been a conspiracy niously without working against one another against this great community and it has been and without casting vulturous eyes on each going on for the last several decades. In other’s territories. I have another serious this connection, 1 would like to recall point to make. There is one conspiracy in that during the lifetime of Shri Lai Bahadur Assam and Tripura to dismember Manipuri Shashtri as Prime Minister, in one of the language and the Manipuri Commmunity, AICC meetings held in Bangalore, this Manipuri is spoken in Manipur; it is the question came up for discussion in the official language of the State and recog lobbies. Some delegates from Bihar who nised by Sahitya Academy as one of the wanted to mislead the national leaders were modern Indian languages. It is awaiting told then that “Manipuri cannot be created insertion in the Eighth Schedule. The in Assam, Manipuri can not be created in Government of Assam and Tripura have Tripura and it could be decided only by the made new communities with Manipur as Manipuri poeple in the mainland of Mani suffix to confuse matters and to lower the pur” . Now, after the passage of some years dignity of Manipuri language and thereby — two decade— the agencies supporting this that of the Manipuri community. There is conspiracy have come to the surface. Theres a community known as Bishnupraya in fore, I would like to appea! to the Hon- Assam and Tripura and their population is Home Minister to take up this matter, something like one lakh or two lakhs in the seriously and do justice to the people of two States taken together. 1 do not know Manipur and their language Manipuri, by how and why they have asked the two calling a halt to the mischeif mongers. I Governments to recognise them as Manipuri would also request him to issue necessary Bishnupriyas. No relegion or reason supports warning to the Commissioner of Linguistic their demand. The use of the word ‘Mani Minorities and also take action against him puri’ as a prefix or suffix to any language so that the wrong done to the great people or community is an insult and unthinkable of Manipur might be set right without delay. 293 Demands for Grams CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 294 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 1 would also plead with him that this matter lity, can they demand a portion of the land should be taken up with the Governments belonging to Manipur or other neighbouring of Assam and Tripura. Let me ask once Stales like Assam etc.? This is going to again under what law, moral or constitu create a hell of problems in the neighbouring tional, they have done this damage to Mani- States, Therefore, once for all, these tall puri in order to recognise some other group talkers, those who are indulging in making which practically has nothing to do with unreasonable demands on political and other Manipur or Manipuri language. It is a well- grounds should be given a deaf ear. Only known fact that the Manipuris belong to then, I think, there will be harmonious inter Sino-Tibeten group or Mangolian people, state relations among the units of the north and not to Aryan stock. These Bishnupriyas eastern Council. however belong to a different ethnic groups they are more akin to Bengalis and Assamese. Lastly, our people particularly the people If they want to identify themselves with the of Manipur, have no railways and no big land of their domicile, they should be called industries, and their employment prospects cither Assamese Bishnupriyas or Tripura are very poor. W'e have been suggesting in Bishnupriyas, as the case may be. But they different foiums that there should be enough have not done that. There must be some recruitment rallies at the headquarter at deep-rooted conspiracy in this regard. It is Imphal for recruitment to Assam Rifles and most unfortunate that some other people other para-military forces under the Home who do not belong to Manipur have made Ministry like CRP, BSF, etc. to attract some a decision on this subject sitting a judgement youngsters of the area. So far, some efforts upon a false claim by the Bishnupriya who have undoubtedly been made but these reportedly wanted to shine in borrowed light. are not adequate. Assam is a brother in the North-Eastern area and Tripura whose people have all the I would request that in future, recruit information and understanding about the ment may be made by organising rallies at culture and language of Manipur should not the headquarters at Imphal, so that the peo have committed such a grievous mistake. ple of Manipur and adjoining areas would have better representation in the para Therefore, I emphatically demand the military forces and better employment intervention of the Union Home Minister facilities, in this matter so that the distress caused to the people of Manipur is removed. The SHRI S. JA1PAL REDDY (Mahbub- injustice done to Manipuri is agitating the naear) : Mr Chairman, Sir, I have the innocent Manipuri people living in Assam highest regard for our Home Minister, Shri and Tripura, also. Chavan, who is not only a senior politician, but also an experienced administrator. But 1 Geogrphically also, there is another must hasten to add, however, that I can conspiracy to dismember Manipur. Rani neither give credit nor blame him for the Gaidilu, for whom I have got great honour events for which the year under review has and respect, while talking to some newsmen come to be known for. The year under in Bombay is reported to have said that review will go down in the history of India they wanted a linguistic State. There are for its record-breaking events. other persons and groups like her. The mean ing is that they would like carve out another Firstly, it is an year of three Home Nagaland on top of the present Nagaland. Ministers, Shri P. C. Sethi, Shri P.V. Narasi- mha Rao and Shri S.B. Chavan. Secondly, We are already having too many States it will be known as the year of the greatest and Union Territories in this small area and national trauma and shame in the history of how could one go on increasing the number India. Thirdly, it will also come to be mark of States? Now, during the negotiations ed for a series of massive intelligence concerning the future of Mizoram, a demand failures. Fourthly, it will be known for the has also been made on a portion of Manipur frontal assauit that the Congress (I) Govern land. 1 do not mean that the Government of ment at the Centre has launched on the India will concede this demand, but my federal polity of this country through a series question is under what authority and niora- of dangerous destabilisation games resorted 295 Demands for Grants APRIL 2, 1985 Demands for Grants 296 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 to in Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka, Jammu you may kindly consider as to whether this and Kashmir and Sikkim. Sir, it will also be eould have happened at all without adequate noted for the unpatriotic attacks that the preparation. Did the Government of Jndia Hon. Prime Minister of India has embarked have no idea about what was to fellow? Can on the Opposition Parties in the country. there be a greater example of the failure of Congress (I) has given a solemn promise 10 Intelligence ? people for providing political stability to the country. But a key, sensitive portfolio like Apart from these sensational case of Home has been allowed to be handled by Intelligence failure, we cannot but remember three persons, 1 am not finding fault either the care of espionage ring that was operating with their competence or with their calibre. in the country for so many years in such It is a classic illustration of the manner in sensitive and key establishments with absolute which the Congress (I) fulfils its election impunity. But what in more shocking, the promises to the people of India. sanctum sanctorum of our Government, the office of the Prime Minister was the bee-hive Congress (1) has evolved an excellent of the espionage activity, escapist system in the country in which poli tical responsibility cannot be pinned down on anybody, whether it be the Ministers or the I reliably understand that the first tip Prime Minister. Ministers are shunted from was secured by our Government about this one portfolio to another so frequently that espionage, when there was an indiscreet nobody can be really found fault with. In the mention by a White House spokesman about case of Prime Minister, well of course, the the manner in which our late Prime Minister office of the Prime Minister in this country made and enquiry about the nuclear installa has been elevated to the pedestal of kingship tions of Pakistan. The late Prime Minister's and the theory that ‘a king can do no wrong’ discreet enquiry in her own oflke with only is observed scrupulously. one officer, cannot be preserved as a treasu red national secret. I need not refer to the traumas and I may also say that the operation of the tragedies that have been gone through. Nor espionage ring were known to the Govern do have I to refer to the political setting ment of India well before the Lok Sabha against which these tragic events took place. poll. It was kept a national secret, because There was not only a colossal failure of the Congress (I) was afraid that the disclo statesmanship behind these frightening inci sure of it would adversely affect its poll dents (we have referred to those things in chances. Now, the Prime Minister and the the past), but to me equally shocking is the Home Minister both conveniently try to massive failure of intelligence. Take for conceal all information in regard to the example the statements made by the Army espionage activity or in regard to the manner Generals who led the Army’s entry into the in which it was busted, on the ground Golden Temple as a pari of ihe Blue Star that national interests would be affected. Operation. They said that they had no inkling 1 do not know why the issues which have whatsoever of the magnitude of military already come to be known to all inte build-up in the Golden Temple. Could there rested countries should be withheld from the be a more classic illustration of the failure people of India. They are withheld, in my of intelligence machinery? Everybody knew view, only to save their own skin, only to that there was a serious threat to the life of conceal the monumetal inefficiency from late Prime Minister. And she came to fall which this Government is suffering. to the bullets of her own security guards in her own premises. Could there be a more tragic proof of the failure of Intelligence, I would like to refer to the pernicious Sir ? manner in which all the powers of the Government have come to be centralized, Then again, I do not have to refer to and concentrated in the office of the Prime the holocaust or the massacre or the arson Minister, literally and metaphorically over that followed the tragic assasinalion of Mrs. the last 15 years. When all the powers are Gandhi. But, if you take the scale of carnage centralized in one office, when all the secrets and destruction and vandalism that was of our country are treasured in one office, that indulged in after the killing of Mrs. Gandhi, office cannot remain impregnable and imper 297 Demands for Grants CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Demcnd : for Gn nts 298 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1V85-86 vious. That was the reason why the spies had will not be an exaggeration for me to say reached the Prime Minister’s office. that no movement in the history of free India was more protracted, more sustained, J would like to know from the Home more intense than the Assam movement had Minister as to what is the intelligence machi been. But our Home Minister in his Report nery they have been able to evolve, as to cooly says that Saikia’s Government has what is the manner in which the information been succcssful in consolidating normalcy in provided to them is assessed and analyzed Assam. If there was normalcy in Assam, from the viewpoint of political strategy, both then why did you not hold Lok Sabha long term and short term. poll. 1 think this way of giving credit to Saikia’s Government is adding insult to the In this connection, though it did not injury of Assam. Can there be a more utterly take place during the year under review, 1 unrepresented government than that of Sai cannot but refer to the failure of intelligence kia.? I do not have to go into the tragic and when the carnage in Assam took place. the farcical fashion in which the elections were Nobody to this day knows as to who has held in Assam. Even according to the been responsible for the lapse. One reason Elections Commission’s figures, the polling why the intelligence machinery has come to which was held in Assam was, in fact, be very ineffective and inefficient is that it has very low. In at least dozen constituen been used blatantly for partisan purposes. 1 cies the polling was less than five per cent; can say this for certain that the intelligence in at least six constituencies the polling was machinery has been used for assessing the less than 10 per cent. There was a Congress mood of the people, from the viewpoint of (1) candidate who got only 440 votes out of the prospccts of the ruling party before 64,000 votes; and he is now an Hon. Minis every election ; for election of Chief Minis ter in the State of Assam. When the Home ters of their parlies, and for choosing the Minister would like to give credit to such candidates of the ruling party. When the government, I do not know how serious he limited energies of the intelligence machinery in is solving the problem of Assam. are diverted and misused, how can this machinery be useful for our country? I there He referred to the judgment of the fore would like to appeal to the Home Supreme Court which upheld the validity of Minister that he should start with the clean elections in Assam. The Judgment was sing of Augern Stables of the intelligence merely based upon technical merits of the branch, itself. But then one may ask ease. The electoral rolls of Assam were whether Mr. Chavan is really a modern prepared in 1979 and the Government of version of Hercules. If he really flexes his India itself offered to observe the cut off year herculean mussles, I do not know how long of 1971. This only shows that the offer of his job will be safe. 1 wish of course, greater the Government of India in regard to the longivity to him as Home Minister than problem of Assam is not in fact very what his predecessors had really been blessed genuine. I therefore think that the first thing with. The political firmament of our country that this government should do is to dissolve has been completely so darkened by the the Assam Assembly immediately and to tragedy of Punjab that Assam has been dismiss the Saikia’s Government; it does not nearly forgotten in our country. We do not deserve to stay for a minute more. 14.51 hr s. You referred to the illegal Immigration Act of 1983. Under this Act, all the forei (MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair) gners who came before 1971 were made really solve problems. The only way we seek citizens. All the clauses under this Act arc to solve problems is to create a bigger pro such as to defeat the very purpose of the blem so that the earlier problem is eclipsed. Act. The clauses of the Act arc such as to 1 am happy to say that our Home Minister make any possible complaint ineligible. did remember Assam. He was in fact good The clauses have been loaded with ineligibi enough to visit Gauhati during these holi lity. days. But in his Annual Report he tried to make light of the magnitude of the move Now, the Home Minister was speaking ment and the magnitude of this issue. It of barbed wire fencing. I would like to bring 299 Demands for Grants APRIL 2, 1985 Demands for Grants 300 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 to his notice that this barbed wire fencing untenable attacks on the Opposition at every had never really begun. The report does not stage. refer to the blatant manner in which the Government of Jammu and Kashmir was SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA (Roberts- dismissed. I do not understand why there is ganj) : 1 am on a point of order. Our Prime- no reference at all. Docs it want us lo forget Minister has never attacked the Opposition. the whole thing? It certainly refers to what He has, from the very beginning onwards, happened in Sikkim but does not refer to the asked for the support from the Opposition atrocious manner in which the spirit of the on national issues. So, he is misleading the Constitution was violated in Sikkim, when House. You should ask him not to speak the Government of Sikkim was dismissed like this. and when the Assembly of Sikkim was dissolved. . SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : I would be happy if that Member advises his Prime Minister to behave better with the Opposi I would like to ask another question as tion Parties. I think that perhaps is the to what was the reason for not holding the idea behind his statement. The Prime Minis polls of Sikkim Assembly along with those ter made one shocking statement at Ahmeda- of Lok Sabha. If the Assembly polls and bad. Lok Sobha polls in Tamil Nadu could be held simultaneously, why were they not held MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Please wind simultaneously in Sikkim? I do not want to up now. You have taken ten minutes more. refer to the drama that was enacted by them in Andhra Pradesh. Well, now we are grate SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : He made ful to them because it was there for every a statement that the Opposition parlies were one to see. not only waging a war against the Centre, but . . . ( Interruptions ) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Please wind up now. I am criticising the policies of the Prime Minister. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Now I refer (Interruptions) to Pondicherry. The Assembly in Pondicherry was dissolved in June. 1983. I do not want MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Please con to refer to the manner in which the Assembly clude now. was dissolved. Why were the elections in Pondicherry not held for 19 long months? SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : He made a Why were the Assembly elections in Pondi statement that the Opposition Parties were cherry not held along with the Lok Sabha not only waging a war against the Centre polls? Is it completely a matter of convenie but ...(Interruptions) Any criticism of the nce of the ruling party? I want the Home federal polity is being misconstrued as an Minister to throw light on this question. anti-national approach. 1 do not understand whether the Prime Minister is being guided In the recent Assembly elections our properly by the experienced Home Minister Hon. Prime Minister has propounded a or not. I think he will be able to do belter dangerous doctrine, the doctrine that the in future, and he has been blowing hot and same party should rule both in the States cold in regard to the cooperation that he and in the Centre. It is a happy augury that seeks from the Opposition Parties. this doctrine has been rejected by the people in some parts o f the country. 15.00 hrs. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Please wind MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please con up. clude now. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : In SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : I do not my view the Prime Minister is waging understand why the Prime Minister even a war against multi-party democracy in the after the elections were over— even after the country. This Budget has proved that he is Lok Sabha and Assembly elections were against the multi-party democracy in the over—should continue to launch totally country but he is all for multi-nationals. 301 Demands for Grants CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 302 {General) 1985-86 0General) 1985-86 MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Please wind high that our country is marching ahead on up. ( Interruptions ) its way to progress. There is no doubt that our country made much progress during the SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Our Prime Congress rule. It can be claimed on the Minister has been making a promise in basis of the changes brought about in the regard to clean politics. I am of the view country after independence that there has that if he is earnest about clean politics, he been upliftment of the Harijans, the Adivasis must come forward with the Bill on Lokpal and the backward classes, for which credit and the office of the Prime Minister must be goes to the Congress Government. brought within the purview of the Lokpal. In the Constitution we have declared the In regard to company donations being nation as a welfare State. In order to imple allowed, I would like to know how the Con ment the Constitutional provisions, the reser gress (I) could finance such a costly and vation system for the weaker sections was expensive campaign without donations from introduced during the Congress rule. After companies. Now, of course, they have allo that, the 20-Point Programme was formulated wed it. We raised questions as to how the and implemented. Rural Development Pro Congress (I) could spend Rs. 12 crores only gramme was formulated and implemented. on advertisements in newspapers, not to speak Land was allotted to the poor Harijans and of scores of crores that were spent on the election machinery. Therefore, if the Prime the landless persons ander this Programme. Residential accommodation was provided to Minister wants to close this dirty chapter, I the homeless. Home Tenancy Act was enac welcome it. But if he is to open a new chap ter of his clean politics, he must come for ted for them and land was allotted to them. ward with the Bill on Lokpal. Besides, drinking water was provided in the villages where there was shortage of it. Credit for all these measures goes to the Congress [Translation] Government. The Minimum Wages Act was SHRI RAM RAT AN RAM (Hajipur, : enacted for the landless labourers and simi Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I whole heartedly lar other steps were taken. Steps were also support the Demands for Grants in respcct taken to free the people from the clutches of of the Ministry of Home Affairs for the year the capitalists and landlords. With the enact 1985 86. 1 would like to thank you for allo ment of the Minimum Wages Act, it can wing me to speak. I would ,also like to say definitely be said that the condition of the that the Lok Sabha and the Constitution are agricultural labourers has improved. So far a sacred heritage. We have to take the nation as the industrial sector and the workers there ahead keeping in view the dignity of the Lok are concerned, our Government have taken Sabha and the Constitution. Some people steps to ensure minimum wage to the poor, have failed to understand the dignity of the the Harijans and the backward classes people Lok Sabha and the Constitution. Till the working in various mines. Minimum Wage has Harijans, the Adivasis and the backward been fixed for them. Reservation system has classes are uplifted economically, politically been introduced for the people of the back and educationally, we can never claim that ward classes working in factories, mines, etc. our nation will march forward. Great leaders All these steps have been taken in the coun of the country like Rashtrapita and Dr. try during the Congress rule. Ambedkar worked and made sacrifices for the upliftment and advancement of these poor I would like to draw the attention of the people. The work done by them for the Hon. Home Minister to the fact that on the upliftment of these poor people will always one hand there is still a lot to be done but be remembered in the history of India. We on ihe other hand there are certain anti-social got freedom as a result of the indefatigable elements among us who are creating hurdles efforts of these leaders. After that our Cons in our way. Our Congress Government wants titution came into existence. The Constitution to take measures for the uplift of the poor, is the greatest heritage of our country. Our the Harijans and the backward classes. It leaders made provisions in it to the effect wants to raise their standard of living. A that till the poor Harijans, the Adivasis and persual of the figures pertaining to the reser the backward classes are uplifted, we cannot vation in services would reveal that very few proclaim to the world with our heads held people have been covered under the reserva- 303 Demands for Giants APRIL 2, 1985 Demands for Grants 304 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 tion system. Government’s policy of 10 per list. There are certain castes which are not cent reservation in services is not being follo considered Scheduled Castes in all the States. wed. Even then there is a feeling that the In many Slates Machuarus (fishermen) are Government have done a lot for these classes not considered as a Scheduled Caste. Simi and there is no need to take any further larly, in many States Dhobis (washermen) steps in this direction as suffic.ent work has are not included in the Scheduled Caste list, alieady been done. You go to the villages though in most of the Slates they are consi and see the plight of the poor Harijans and dered as a Scheduled Caste. the workers there. Only a little work has been done so far. Those elements, who do not Similarly, Pasis and Dushads have been want the country to progress and who do included in the Scheduled Caste list in many not take an active part in removing poverty, States but in some of the States they have do not want them to prosper. In this con not been included in the list. The Home nection. 1 would like to quote Swami Viveka- Ministry should analyse these lists. The State nandji here: * Governments and the Government of India deserve thanks for implementing their poli [English] cies despite agitations. So far as minium wages arc concerned, “So long as millions live in hunger in Bihar there are still landlords who do not and ignorance, 1 hold every man a want the enforcement of the Minium Wages traitor, who, having been educated at Act. They forget that if the poor who work their cost, pays not the least heed to in fieds do not survive, the foodgrains can them.” not be grown. If the poor do not exist, then how will these people live in palatial houses? [Translation] It is the poor who construct palatial houses We want to ask these people what has but they themsclve live in huts. These are been done for those workers who have con the people who work in big factories but tributed to the progress of our country by they arc a forgotten lot. The Country is pro their hard labour ? The people working in gressing because of them. Government factories, the agricultural labourers and the should deal with the people who are agita people working in the cities have helped in ting against the welfare measures of the building and developing the nation. If our Government for the poor. Government undertake progressive welfare measures for these people and introduce a [English] reservation policy for them then, as per MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Please con Swami Vivekanandji, the anti-social elements clude. Everybody is taking only five minutes who oppose these measures and create hurd and you have already taken eight minutes. les in the development and progress of the country should be treated as traitors. SHRI RAM RATAN RAM : Well, so many hon. Members have taken fifteen to Here I want to say that there is need to twenty minutes, give them more than what has so »far been given under the provisions of the Constitu MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : I am very tion. strict in that because I have to give chance to a lot of hon. Members. Lot of hon. I think that the people who are agitating Members are interested to speak on the against the policy of reservation in Gujarat, subject. Maharashtra, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, etc., are agitating not so much against the SHRI RAM RATAN RAM : All right, Harijans and the Adivasis, they want that please give me two more minutes. the policy of the reservation for the backward MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Yes, you classes should be changed. I want to draw can take two more minutes. the attention of the Home Minister towards the fact that several castes which were consi \Translaiiori\ dered untouchables since the vedic period have not been included in the list of Sche I would like to say that the demand for duled Castes. There is need to improve the minimum wages should be met. 305 Demands for Grants CHA1TRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 306 {General) 1985-86 {General) 1985-86 ‘Land Army’ has been raised in many these words, I wholeheartedly support the parts of Bihar. The landlords say that they demands presented by the hon. Minister. would not pay that much amount. If the labourers are not interested in doing work, [English] they are forced to do the work. They are not given full wages. So, I would like to draw MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Only seven, the attention of the hon. Home Minister minutes are allotted to each Member. After towards such people who agitate for their the fifth minute I will ring the bell and two rights and 1 would urge the Government to minutes after that 1 will ring the final bell. take strict action against those who do not Afterwards if you go on speaking, nothing adhere to the policy of the Government. will go on record. Sir, I would like to draw your attention {interruptions) towards the 20 Point Programme under which there has been development of the rural areas. The money allocated by the Centre to MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : I am very the States for welfare measures under the sorry you have exhausted all the time. Each Special Component Plan and as Central assis Member will get only seven minutes now. tance is not used properly for the Poor. The hon. Home Minister should pay attention SHRI V. KiSHORE CHANDRA S.DEO towards it and instruct the States to use that (Parvathipuram) : The House can extend money properly. the time of the debate if so many Members are to speak. The Five Year Plans have resulted in the development of the country. The hon. Minis MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Two persons ter must give special attention to the welfare from that side will speak in that order. Only measures in the Seventh Five Year Plan. seven minutes will be given to each Member. Just now Members from the other side SHRI BRAJA MOHAN MOHANTY : were saying so many things about the elec Only seven minutes ? I can draw more time tions in West Bengal and Assam. from the time given to my Party. {[Interruptions]* MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : I won’t give that. I won’t allow more than seven minutes. {English} (interruptions) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : It wiil not go on record. SHRI FRANK ANTHONY (Nominated (interruptions) * * Anglo-Indian) : What time are you going to give us this side ? MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER ' Shri Braj MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : All are Mohan Mohantv. 1 request the hon. Mem going to be given seven minutes each. bers to at least restrict the time themselves. If they don’t, how can 1 give chance to other SHRI FRANK ANTHONY : I have Members ? Otherwise I am going to ask the already been informed that ten minutes will hon. Minister to reply and all other Members be given to me. will not get a chance. Eight hours are allot ted for this by the Business Advisory Com MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : When your mittee. You have got only one hour left now. time comes and when I call you, you ask me You have to cooperate. That is all I request at that time. Please sit down, the hon. Members, \lnterruptions) {Translation] MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : When your SHRI RAM RATTAN RAM : With time comes, you can ask at that time. Now, I have already called Mr. Braja Moban **Not recorded. Mohantyto speak. 307 Demands for Granti APRIL 2, 1985 Demands for Grants 308 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 SHRI BRAJA MOHAN MOHANTY must take this into consideration. He should (Puri) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, 1 support implement the recommendations of the the Demands for Grants under the control National Police Commission. of the Ministry of Home Affairs. But the report of the Home Ministry that has been Another aspect which I would like to circulated is distressing. I think, perhaps the submit is, how to handle the secessionist advisers of the Home Ministry are, as if, not activities in this country. Firstly, I come to acquainted with the new developments and Kashmir. There are a number of with the new situation that has developed anti-national elements, which are very since one or two years. How the nation is active. Pro-Pakistani elements are active. confronted with the complicated situation- Every body knows that. Every day we nothing of that sort is reflected in this report. see in the newspaper that a number of people are migrating from Punjab to Paki Initially, I will submit the background. stan, they are being trained and send back Very recently, we had one of the saddest ex for subversive activities. I am quoting periences of history that our former Prime Hindustan Times report dated 20th July. Minister was assassinated. We have found There was one incident when the Chief that we have a spy-ring around. That was Minister Farooq Abdullah was removed and all discovered. But that was not all. Every how things had developed there. I am quot day we have the information that the anti ing only one paragraph of it : national elements and secessionist elements are active. But in spite of that, if you go “Surprisingly, however, when Dr. Ab through the report of the Home Ministry, dullah was addressing the crowd pro- nothing of that sort is reflected. I do not Pakistan slogans were heard. The know who has drafted this poor report for Police also arrested five persons who the Home Ministry. were driving in a taxi and were raising pro-Pakistan slogans.” One by one I would place before you. Now, New Delhi is going to be converted This report appeared on the 20th July. I into the centre of international terrorism. You put a Question to the Home Minister in the saw very recently that one Soviet diplomat month of March, 1984 and he said that the was murdered. Another one either had es Government was very alert. I am also quot caped, missing or had taken asylum some ing. This is Unstarred Question No. 1711, where. This is not the stray case. Since 1982 dated 7-3-1984. till 1985, a number of such cases concerning “The activities in question comprise the diplomats— one who was going to Bombay secessionist activities, anti-India de was murdered and one who was coming out monstrations, practice of violence, etc. was murdered—had happened. So, the pro The Government of India are continu blem is that Delhi itself is going to be con ally in correspondence with the State verted into a centre of international terrorism Government in such m atters...” and conflict. My submission would be that this report is not laudable. What is the “The State Government have recently policy and strategy of the Home Ministry to started taking action against some of confront the situation ? the members/activists of anti-national organisations and other subversive The National Police Commission has elements in this regard, Government of made a number of recommendations to India are, closely, watching the situa counter-act this menace but nothing of that tion.” sort has been done. Even in foreign countries like Japan and United States of America, They wer* watching the situation in the fingerprints of suspected criminals have been month of March and on 28th July, there was taken and they build up the case before any a demonstration. Not only that. What is the thing happens, i.e. infrastructural develop role of some oppposition leaders 7 Some ment relating to the investigation is built up. opposition leaders have an unholy alliance Naturally, whenever an offence or crime is not with individuals but with disruption and committed, one is detected immediately. But disorder. 1 am quoting as to what was the we have not developed such a system yet. My role of Mr. George Fernandes. He is not a submission would be that the Home Minister member of this House. . . 309 Demands for Grants CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 310 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE (Raja- clear mandate that the people of India are pur) : We have no objection. You quote it. one in maintaining unity and integrity of the country. They have expressed their opinion SHRI BRAJA MOHAN MOHANTY : As and full confidence in Mr. R^jiv Gandhi to a matter of fact, this matter is very much re handle the situation. You know, within how levant to the demand under discussion. I many days, a Bill was passed banning defec quote : tions from one party to another. So, having “According to Janta Party sources, a code of conduct fcr political parties could Mr. Fernandes was to go back from be seriously considered. Jammu yesterday but due to differen ces in the Srinagar unit of Janta Party SHRI V.K1SHORE CHANDRA S. DEO. on the dismissal of Dr. Farooq Ab (Parvathipuram) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, 1 dullah, he has to return to Srinagar to I rise to speak on the Demands of a Ministry hold talks with the local Janta Parly whose credibility is at its lowest ebb today. leaders.” The very fact that the para-military PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : So forces and the army were called in a number what ? of times to control civil disturbanes the last one year in Punjab and other States gone to SHRI BRAJA MOHAN MOHANTY : show how shoddily and shabbily this Ministry Dismissal was supported by Kashmir Janata has functioned. Party unit. He went there to violate Section The situation in Punjab was allowed to 144. But, unfortunately, when he reached drift just for deriving political gains by party, there, the things normalisad. That is the role which is in this Government. Ample proof which is being played by same of the Oppo of this was evident during the Lok Sabha sition leaders. This is how some of the elections. opposition leaders are behaving all these years. This is the situation in Jammu and Kashmir. The Prime Minister himself, for the first time in the political history of our country, So far as article 370 is concerned, has it carried on a campaign alleging that Opposi been examined whether it promotes integrity tion parties have supported the Anandpur of Jammu and Kashmir with India or it Saheb resolution which we have not done works other way ? Has that aspect been exa either inside or outside the House. The Prime mined ? I would not advjSe the Government Minister has now gone back on his words of India to scarp article 370. But my sub and has said that there is nothing wrong in mission would be that let the patriotic forces the Anandpur Saheb resolution except for in Jammu and Kashmir combine together, one or two clauses or aspects. examine it and create an upsurge to remove This Government has been responsible article 370. That is the need of the hour. This for creating the situation that we are faced is my personal view, not the view of my with today in Punjab and various other parts party. So long as article 370 continues, the of our country, which threatens the very in process of integration will be difficult and tegrity and security of our country. more difficult. After what happened in Punjab, the Lastly, about the code of conduct for Operation Blue Star, the sordid events that political parties, the Report is silent. Once took place in the capital after the assassina upon a time, I put a question to the Home tion of Mrs. Gandhi have left bitter memories Minister and he replied that at the third especially in the minds of the young Sikh. I sitting of the National Integration Council would like to know whether the Government certain consensus was arrived and the matter is seriously thinking in terms of solving the was referred to the members of the National problem in Puryab. Integration Council and that the opinions were being awaited. One thing that must be The Government should deal with the remembered is the massive mandate that was problem in Punjab in a two-fold manner. I in favour of Congress Party. What is the would like to make a differentiation between meaning of this massive mandate ? It is a the Sikh youth below 30 years of age and 311 Demands for Grants APRIL 2, !9»5 Demands fo r Grants 312 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 sikhs abroad on the one hand and the other exists, I do not think the problem in Assam Sikhs belonging to other Sikh community can be solved. I would appeal to the Home who are either traders or peasants or those Minister to take immediate and necessary staying out side the Punjab. The Sikh Youth measures and steps to see that free and fair below 30 years of age who now want to elections are held in Assam and that the wreak vengeance for all that was done to present Government there is removed as their community in recent times fall in a early as possible. different category. The Sikhs abroad are raking a hard line on this issue. The Govern It is unfortunate that, in recent times, ment should at least try and negotiate to the Prime Minister has been alleging all bring about some amicable solution with the national Opposition Parties and opposition section of Sikhs who still would like to be a leaders as anti-national. We do not need part of the national mainstream. a certificate from the Prime Minister or anybody else to prove our patriotism. I am In this connection, I would like to men sure that every Member of this House is tion that during the Punjab crisis, a large patriotic, and it is a fact which cannot be number of Sikhs had also left the Army. disputed by anybody. I would only point There are some people who belong to the out that this sort of attitude will not help. hard-core. But there are Sikhs who out of You cannot call the Opposition as anti-natoi- emotion, have stealthily joined some of their nal or that anything that the Opposition men who deserted the army. As far as these does is against the integrity and security of Sikhs are concerncd, there are summary trials the country. On the other hand, we see that being taken by the Army againist them. this kind of situation which was brought There are 10,000 of them and I personally about by this Government when it was in feel that at least those who in an emotional power, and this very situation is today threa- outburst had joined them, should not be trea tenning the integrity and security of the ted in similar manner as those who are country. It is a major problem which we arc responsible for instigating these people who facing, and if it is not handled properly, we have taken that attitude. The Sikhs have may havo to face the forces of secession been valiant as far as the political history of probably in a stronger manner than we have our country is concerned. They have fought done earlier. Before that situation arises, we during the national movement. The Sikhs should take immediate and necessary meas are not alien to India. They have been a ures to see that the situation is controlled. part of national mainstream. During the last one year, we saw the I sincerely hope that this Government Government at the centre trying to com will make serious efTorts to come to an pletely erode the principles of federal polity understanding with those Sikhs who are still in our country. Defections were engineered in a mood to be a part of this national in Jammu & Kashmir. Now the Anti-Defec mainstream and to help the developmental tion Bill has been passed. If at all the Anti activities of the country. Defection Bill is to have any sanctity as far as this Government is concerned, the Govern The Situation which has emerged in ment in Jammu & Kashmir should have Assam since 1979 still continues. It has been been dismissed, the Assembly there dissolved five or six years now since the trouble in and elections held. Assam started. But the situation has not chan ged at all till now. The elections were held at It is needless for me to repeat the sordid gun point. With a few paltry votes, members drama that went on in Andhra Pradesh, the were elected to the Legislative Assembly way in which the legally constituted Govern and Lok Sabha. Now at least, the situation is ment of Mr. Rama Rao was sought to be ripe and a solution can be brought about in toppled. Then the event thflt went on in time. But, you must first dissolve the Assembly Karnataka is known to this House and it to do that and remove this Government was discussed in the last Lok Sabha 1 mean which was so undemocratically and unconsti the Moiley tape episode, etc. Still worse was tutionally and illegally constituted. This the situation in Sikkim where a legally consti Government does not represent the people of tuted government which represented the Assam and as long as this Government Congress*! was eventually toppled because 313 Demands for Grants CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 314 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 they would not fall in line with the tunes of or finding a scape-goat in either a politician the Central Government. These are the or a bureaucrat. This approach will not do. various facets that we have seen; the You cannot always make use of this kind Government has been taking up various posi of a situation to ease out people you do not tions according to convenience and expedi want. This is precisely what the Government ency. 1 would like to warn this Government is doing. 1 honestly and sincerely hope that that, if it contiunes to do so, they will Mr Chavan who has taken over the Home themselves have to face the lines table tune, Ministry now will realise the magnitude of may be not after a very long time, but very the problems that are facing us in the coun soon. try and give us a proper direction and depart from the line which was adopted in the last The failure of this Government, as far as few years. its intelligence service are concerned, was evident from the way the late Prime Minitser was assassinated in her own residence. The [Translation] fact that espionage activity was going on in SHRI L. BALARAMAN (Vandavasi^ : the nerve-ccntre of the highest office in the Mr. Deputy speaker, Sir, 1 am grateful to Centre is ample proof to show how secure you for giving me this opportunity to parti the country was at the hands of this Govern cipate in the debate on the Demands for ment or the previous Government, whatever Grants of the Ministry of Home Affairs. I the case may be. shall be brief in my speech by referring to a few important aspects of the working of this Another fact which has been disturbing important Ministry. the Members from other parts of the coun try is the way elections have been held in The nation is confronted by numerous certain States like Bihar and U.P. According problems like Assam imbroglio, the extremist to the official report, 200 to 300 deaihs had activities in North-eastern parts of the country, occurred during the elections in Bihar, if pouring refugees due to racial riots in Sri this was the official report, one can well Lanka, communal classes, student unrest etc. imagine how many deaths would actually Our Hon. Minister of Home Affairs is charged have taken place in Bihar during the elections. with the responsibility of taclking such prob This is a process which is spreading, rather lems undermining national integrity. It is than being curbed or controlled. I do not fortunate that we have in our Home Minister think that democracy will have any meaning inherent qualities of leadership. It is a matter or sense if we let this drift or continue and of gratification that his approach to these if elections are to be fought by the number problems has been hailed by the national of ballot boxes or polling booths one can Press. I can say with all the force at my com capture. Then we shall have no right to talk mand that he will rid the nation of all these about democratic polity. It is high time that political and social ills. some electoral reforms were brought about. While talking of electoral reforms, I know Our former Prime Minister, Shrimati it is the responsibility of every political Indira Gandhi sacrified her life at the altar party to sec that they cooperate and become of national integrity. We have to ensure that a party to the holding of smooth elections. the unfulfilled tasks left by this distinguished But, I think, in this direction, the ruling statesman are accomplished. During her rule, Party should take the lead. the Opposition Parties had the one-point political plank of INDIRA HATAO. By In all parts of the country, slowly and quirk of fate she has been removed from the steadily, an atmosphere of restlessness and national scene. I would appeal to our leaders violence has been creeping around. Starting of Opposition Parties that they should leave from Assam and then to Punjab we have had such a narrow political outlook. The country’s disturbances all over. And there is very future should be their prime concern. Political little that the Home Ministry has done to partisanship cannot solve national issues to control the situation apart from calling the which I have referred at the outset. I request services of either the Border Security Force or the Central Reserve Police Force or the **The sp^ch was originally delivered in Army or at best changing the Chief Minister Tamil. 315 Demands for Grants APRIL 2, 1985 Demands for Grants 316 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 the Opposition Parties to be responsible and As I stated earlier, Tamil Nadu is burst reasonable in their approach to notional ing in seams with the refugel problem. We issues, without which the nation cannot be have to take into account the numerous repa strengthened. triates who have not registered themselves in the Camps and have gone to their kith and During his short tenure of office, our kin in Tamil Nadu. Therefore it is essential young Prime Minister Shri Rajiv Gandhi has that more number of repatriates should be shown unprecedented dynamism and pragma rehabilitated in Andaman and Nicobar tism in tackling the issues confronting the Islands. This is very necessary if we want to nation. His concern for the common weal prevent these repatriates from turning into has endeared him to the entire nation. All beggars some time after their entry into India. of us should strengthen his hands in the inte rest of the nation. India has given to the Sir, another problem is the high-handed world the unparallelled concept of unity in ness of Customs officials in Rameswaram, diversity in a cultural mileu. This is the time who think that all these refugees are smug that this concept of unity in diversity should glers. They subject them to rigorous checking become the political heritage also. Our and harass them unnecessarily. 1 want the Opposition Parties should exemplify this in Home Minister to ensure that the Customs their efforts to arrive at national consensus officials treat them with some dignity and on the problems. respect. These hapless people should be shown some leniency also. . Presently Tamil Nadu is facing the pro blem of refugees from Sri Lanka on account I would also suggest that the Central of continuing racial violence. This has added Schools in Tamil Nadu should reserve some further dimension to the issue of the reha seats exclusively for the wards of Sri Lankan bilitation of repatriates from Sri Lanka. repatriates. Similarly, 1 suggest the constitu When these repatriates land in Rameswaram, tion of a separate Employment Exchange for they are in a new environment. They have to the educated unemployed among the repatri start their life afresh here. The employment ates. opportunities in Tea Estates and Coffee Estates in Tamil Nadu are minimal for them. I am sure that the Hon. Home Minister We canont create new tea estates in jiffy. It will agree with me when I say that equity is takes time, but the repatriates cannot brook the cardinal principle of democracy. Unfortu any delay for earning their livelihood. nately, though democratically elected Govern Unfortunately, the fiscal resources of Tamil ments have been established in all the Union Nadu are also limited. The Government of Territories yet the populary elected M.L. As Tamil Nadu cannot invest huge sums in the do not have the voting right to participate in rehabilitation of these repatriates. As on the Presidential election. I want that this 30.11.1984,94,116 repatriates families have inequity should be removed by suitably been rehabilitated. So far 80,551 families amending the Constitution of India. I want of repatriates have been rehabilitated in Tamil that the Home Minister should look into this Nadu and the remaining 4565 families have personalfy and do the needful to strengthen been rehabilitated in Karnataka, Kerala, the democratic fabric in the country. The Andhra Pradesh, Gujarat, Pondicherry and nation's independence and sovereignty is ensu Andaman and Nicobar Islands. Barring red by the Armed Forces, Indian Air Force Tamil Nadu, Pondicherry and Andaman and and Indian Navy. Similarly, the nation’s Nicobar Islands, these rehabilitation projects integrity within the country is fostered by the in other States have not become a success. Police Force. Regrettably the Police Force in The repatriates arc finding themselves cut off the country docs not get similar amenities from conducive social environment and of salary, allowances etc., as those being climate. Sir, only 64 families have been settl enjoyed by the military personnel. The Police ed in Andaman and Nicobar Islands. Anda Force must be converted into a self-contented man and Nicobar Islands are eminently Force by giving them all basic amenities. suitable for rehabilitating these repatriates. Unless Law and Order are established, main The Home Minister should ensure that more tained and sustained by the Police Force number of repatriates are rehabilitated in within the country, the nation's unity is end Andaman and Nicobar Islands. angered. I suggest that the Hon. Home 317 Demands for Grants CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 318 (iGeneral) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 Minister must ensure that the Police Force is one condition. They wanted me to oppose properly looked after. reservations altogether. I said, no; I will not oppose reservations for the scheduled castes 1 understand that 1,11,00 applications have and scheduled tribes. As a Member in the reached the Ministry from the freedom fighters Constituent Assembly 1 was party to that and only 36,000 applications have so far decision. And I told them, whatever you may been disposed of. 1 demand that expeditious say, you may not be scheduled castes or action must be taken to sanction pension for scheduled tribes, 1 believe,— and I said this all the freedom fighters. without offence—that these people have for centuries been oppressed by Hindus and let Sir, the Official Languages Act was enac Hindudom make some expatiation of its sins ted in 1963; it was amended in 1967. In 1976 of so many centuries. But what I will oppose a Parliamentary Committee for official langu is that reservations should be projected into ages was constituted. This Committee is to the promotion cadres. And what happened submit its report to the Government. If has was, we asked for a Bench of five judges. not been done as yet. I want that this work Tragically, this crucial subject has always must be expedited. Meanwhile, I would like seen division among the judges. There has to apprise this House that money order forms never been a single unanimous decision from and such other forms in common use bear the Supreme Court. That is the tragedy. I inscriptions only in Hindi and in English. had asked, the lawyers and other people The people living in non-Hindi speaking areas asked, let the matter go to five judges. We are finding it difficult. Hence the P & T knew the predelictions of the Presiding Judge. Department should print the languages of the 1 am sorry to say, he declined. And then, States in such commonly-used forms. there were two judges who affirmed promo tion. One judge accepted my arguments and I support the Demands for Grants of the said ‘Promotions would be an erosion of the Ministry of Home Affairs and I conclude my obligation of Article 335’ and that is ‘reser speech. vations must not be allowed to erode efficiency in the services.’ In handing down [English] this judgement the Presiding Judge relied on Rangachari’s case, 1962 SC. But in that case, SHRI FRANK ANTHONY (Nominated out of five judges, two of them handed down Anglo-Indian) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the most lucid dissenting judgment. Let me my Cut Motion No. 39 reads. quote two passage from Mr. Justice Wanchoo one of the ablest judges that have ever sat in ‘The need to re-examine the reserva the Supreme Court. This is what he said: tion policies on an All-India basis.’ "Reservations are not to be illegitima We are seeing today very unfortunately tely used to disturb ^legitimate interests. a resurgence of inter-caste civil war. And the And more importantly, reservations basic reason if I may say so with great res in the Promotion Cadres are bound to pect is that this crucial issue has been una result in deteriorating efficiency.” shamedly politicised. There has been compe tition in vote-catching between every group The Presiding Judge forgot his own judg and every party. And there has been politi ment in Balasubramanian’s case. I commend cal inflation of reservation, especially for the it to this House,— 1980 SC 482. Let me backward classes. read what he said : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I had the “Once several people or persons be opportunity of studying this subject not only come members of one service they in my professional capacity, but in my poli stand as equals. They cannot be treat tical capacity as the recognised leader of my ed, once they enter a service, as un community. I appeared in the Supreme Court equals.” . not long ago for the Akil Bharatiya Soshit Karamchari Sangh. 1 was the leading counsel; And, this is the crucial part of his ratio : there were other counsels. It was a powerful “To treat equals unequally once he union of railwaymen. The decision is record enters a service is the worst form ed in 1981 SC 274. 1 accepted the brief on of apartheidisation.” 319 Demands for Grants APRIL 2, 1985 Demands for Grants 320 (iGeneral) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 That is what is happening today—the worst nothing happened. It went through. But form of apartheid i sat ion, because of these today we see what is happening. Everybody promotion cadres. As 1 said, one judge is taking up the cause. Everybody is jum accepted my arguments and he said, no, not ping on the backward class, backward class in the promotion cadres. But worst of all band wagon. They seem to think as if it is a was the fact, 1 was probably the only person matter of pride to be branded as a backward who was aware of it, I was a Member of the class. About Scheduled Castes and Schedu Constituent Assembly. I got special quotas led Tribes, this is an old figure 1 have got. rather differently from the scheduled castes That number doubled to 130 between 1930 but it was there for the Anglo-Indians and and 1950. The Mandal Commission projected no less a person than Sardar Patel handed an umbrella, which covered a lumpen, which down the only proper, the correct interpreta covered 3743 so called beckward castes, they tion of the Constitution and this is what said that this lumpen constituded apart from Sardar Patel said in that Resolution of the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes, 13-9-1950—Government of India Resolution 52% of the nation. They would like to have signed by Sardar Patel. ‘The Orders regarding had quotas of reservation of above 75%* reservations of vacancis in favour of various What do you do to the rest of the nation 7 communities (that is, Anglo-Indians and You make them a new type of untouchables. Scheduled Castes) will not apply to the rec This is what has happened today. Some ruitment in promotion which would continue States have run amuck because it is an abso to be made as the here in before irrespective lute tragedy, because they are ruled by so of communal considerations and on the called backward classes, they are among the basis of seniority and/or merit as the case most poweiful, financially and politically, in may be.” The judgement did not even refer Tamil Nadu that went up to 68%. But the to this Resolution, which was the first and Supreme Court said this. Let me quote what proper resolution. Since then, that has been happened with regard to my community. I diluted by the people who had a particular do claim this as a kind of credit for myself political axes to grind. I said to the judges 1 oppose this some people were affected by and I am reading it out here “give the Sche ‘parangis’ of Kerala. They are a backward duled Castes and Scheduled Tribes the reser class of Christians. They wanted to have the vations—I think it is about 15% for the cake and eat it too. They wanted to usurp Scheduled Castes and 7-1/2% for the Sche the Anglo-Indian seats in the Legislature, but duled Tribes. Give them free education up they said they were backward classes. 1 led to the Degree stage but in the promotion a delegation to Shrimati Indira Gandhi and cadre, for God’s sake, unless you want to said “Madam, you will not insult us, you destroy every semblance of secularism in this will not brand my whole community that we country, don’t project caste as the only are a backward class. Every community has touch-stone for, promotion.” I game case its weak, but you will not brand us as brand after case and I give you one outstanding a whole community with a proud history as example of a Scheduled Caste person and a backward class”. And this is what Shrimati non-Scheduled Caste person. I know some Indira Gandhi said addressing at the Cente thing about this. My community has had lot nary Annual General Meeting of Association to do with the Railways. It took on an to which ! happened to be the elected leader. average between 20 and 25 years, after star This is what she said in October, 1976 “It is ting, as a fireman, to reach Grade A, Mail commendable and statesmanly to the Anglo- Driver. But here was a Scheduled Caste Indian community not to demand any such person starting as a fireman and in five years label as backward, Backward is the word he became a Special ‘A’ grade Mail Driver which I would like to remove from our voca and what did I say to the Court ? If you bulary in connection with social conditions” . affirm this, would you not be affirming dis That is what I also strongeiy feel. It is long crimination ? Would you not be affirming overdue. inefficiency ? You would be affirming rank criminality, How can a person in five years 16 hrs. become a Special A-Grade Mail Driver ? You are entrusting to him not only hundreds Article 46 provides specifically for India’s but thousands of lives, a person who is weaker section. If you have any regard for utterly junior, utterly without experience, but secularism and democracy, let the expression 321 Demands for Grants CHA1TRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Demands far Grants 322 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 be weaker section. Everybody has their 16.00 hrs. • weaker section, whether they arc Brahmins or ITranslation] Anglo-Indians. What are you doing ? By keeping them out from this, you are driving SHRI D.L. BAITHA (Araria) : Mr. the weaker section of Communities who are Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise to support the not among these so-called backward classes Demands for Grants of the Ministry of who arc loo proud to be degraded, into fur Home Affairs. In this connection, I would ther economic and financial backwardness. like to say that the range of activities of And what is worse ? Let me underline this the Ministry of Home Affairs is so wide that too, because 1 am dealing with these cases perhaps there is no department which is not constantly. covered by them. If it is a question of maintaining peace or law and order, one T give thousands of rupees as Frank has to look to the Ministry of Home Affairs Anthony Scholarship and I have built up a because no progress or development can take very big educational trust?:, and because of place unless there is low and order. that a very large number of Anglo-Indians are going in for higher education. Yet even if they secure 80 or 85 per cent marks, they Sir, you will see from the Report of the cannot get into any professional or enginer- Ministry of Home Affairs that in addition ing college, they have to walk into the streets to the law and order subject, the develop and they see people with 30 per cent 33 per ment of the Union Territories, the develop cent marks getting into these colleges. What ment of North-Eastern States through the do you think they feel ? The parents who can North-East Council, the development work afford 'are sending them abroad : the rest relating to the Scheduled Castes and Sche have to walk in the streets bccause they are duled Tribes, the maintenance of the Centre- not in the reservation trajectory. Those who State relations, the work relating to the are going abroad are in the front rank of freedom fighters, etc come under the pur the most advanced countries. view of the Home Ministry. Keeping these things in view, 1 would say that this Minis Let me say what is happening today. try will have to work very efficiently because Today, you are backwardising the nation, you the entire work of the development of the are back warding the services. Wh.it is hap country depends on the working of this pening ? What is the common denominator Ministry. for standard in the icrvices today ? The common denominator of the sinking ineffi First of all, let us take the law and ciency is the 35 per cent walla, and because order situation. The Report does not reveal he is the 35 per ccnt walla, because he has the strength of the police per hundred of" the fortuitous label of backward—I say it a population. There are various Police label—of degradation, he is being projected Forces but it has not been revealed as to into all the positions at the top. what the proportion of the police personnel per hundred of population is. As per our All 1 want to say is, let l i s adopt what experience, the deployment of the police for Indira Gandhi said : “Outlaw the word the maintenance of law and order in our backward, remove apartheidisation against country is far less than that in other coun half the nation.” Half the nation today is tries, although ours is a developing country. not wilhin escalating reservation for the back In any developing country, problems do ward classes. You are destroying these wea arise and will continue to arise. The develop ker section, throwing them into a morass. mental activities do create law and order The finest elements in these communities are problems. For example, we take up the work being thrown into the gutter. Keep reserva of the allotment of land to the landless and tion for the scheduled castes and scheduled to that end we pass a land ceiling law. tribes, but do not have it at the promotion Under that law, we shall have to take laid cadre, because as I say, you are destroying from the landlords and distribute it to the efficiency and institutionalising apartheidisa landless. It would create resentment among tion. As least, adopt what Indira Gandhi the landlords as they feel that their land said : “Get rid of the word backward". has been snatched away by Government for For the weaker section of the communities, dsitribution among the poor. It gives rise to let there be only an economic yardstick. class struggle and that is where the role of 323 Demands for Grartfs APRIL 2f 1985 Demands for Grtmts 324 [General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 the Home Ministry starts. Take labour mission is that we should view Hhe situation problems, students’ unrest, extremist acti in its entirety. Only then can the needful be vities, elections, and even electrification of done. You cannot, escape your responsibi the villages— because h involves pilferage of lity by saying that it is a State subject. The electric wires and cables, theft of energy- subject of law and order should be taken everywhere the Home Ministry is involved. over by the Centre. In case it is not pos 1 want to know from the Home Minister sible to bring it in the Union List then it what arrangements have been made to tackle should be brought under the Concurrent the criminals who indulge in special type of List. crimes and whether the Ministry has any Tbe Hon. Member who spoke before equipment or machinery which can be used me complained that an agitation was going to tackle such problems ? Have you thought on against the system of reservation. But do of any such arrangements ? All the respon the people who are agitating know the sibility is thrown on ihe police, whether it background of the reservation policy ? Do is a case of theft in a village or it is the they know its history ? Do they know how theft of wires or energy or it is communal the Poona Pact came into existence, anti disturbance or students’ unrest. Have you how the reservation system started ? There given any training to the police personnel to is no arrangement to explain all these things tackle different types of crimes and have you to the people. Our people themselves arc got experts to deal with such situations ? protesting against it to day. One Hon. The crimes committed in the urban areas Member said that there should not be any are of a different nature as compared to the reservation in promotions. 1 oppose it. ones committed in the rural areas. What There should be reservation in promotions, arrangements have you made to deal with because the people who are responsible for both types of crimes ? promoting the employees are prejudiced. Therefore, in the first instance, the Mentally, they have not adjusted themselves. Police Force should be equipped with the 1 can give you numbers of examples where latest equipment and should also be impar in spite of being fully eligible, those people ted the necessary training. We know that did not get promotions, because the people you have deployed G.R.P. for the Railways. who were to give promotions were prejudiced. If an incident takes place in one compart It is, therefore, the duty of the Government ment and the G.R.P. personnel are posted ii to provide for their promotions also, In the some other compartment, how can they con ancient society of India, there were different trol the situation ? We always criticise the types of reservations. There were reserva Police Department but we overlook their tions for every caste. The work assigned to difficulties. This will not do. We shall have a ‘Kshatriya’ was not allowed to be done by to augment the police strength suitably and a ‘Vaish’ and the work assigned to a to equip them properly, if wc want them to ‘Vaish’ could not be done by a ‘Brahmin’. work in an effective manner. Atrocities are In this way, reservation has been in existence committed on Harijans. We expect the since time immemorial. Now the circum police to protect them. The villages of Hari- stances have changed. The confusion in the jans and Adivasis are situated at the peri minds of the people should be cleared. phery of the forests. There are neither any Government have made efforts in this direc means of communication nor roads there. tion and Harijans have also made a lot of We have started the process of development progress but we are not satisfied with it. 1 and we want to uplift the adivasis. But there would like to express my thanks to the Hon. are people who do not want that they Minister of State for Home Affairs who should progress and who commit atrocities has taken keen interest in this matter. He on them. If the poor ask for fair wages, has often convened meetings of the even that is resisted. What action have you Members of Parliament belonging to the taken to stop these things ? You have not Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes and developed the means of transport and com sought their opinion as to how development munications for them; there are no work for them should be undertaken. Spe approach roads to their villages. In spite of cial Component Plans were formulated and this, it is expected that the police personnel provision has been made to provide special should be present there and should protect assistance. I would request the Hon. Minis them. How can that be possible ? My sub ter that if the reservation system is to be 323 Demards for Grants CHAITfcA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants Slh (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 abolished, then he should sec that caste who have been apprehended. These persons system is abolised, for which however no should be given the severest punishment and efforts have been made. Even to day, riots no support should be extended to them. are taking place on the basis of caste. A The Prime Minister wants that our politi demand was made to encouragc inter-caste cal life should be clean. I welcome the marriages, but no scheme has been formula measures which he has taken in this ted for this purpose. The consideration of direction. this problem only on economic basis would not serve any purpose. With these words, I suport the Demands of the Home Ministry and conclude my I would also like to add that the speech. Government have sanctioned “Samman Pension” to the Freedom Fighters, but to [English] day the factual position is that the Freedom Fighters have to run from pillar to post for SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY (Kurnool) : getting their pension. It is not proper that Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I venture to suggest the persons who staked their lives for the the reorganisation of the Ministry of Home liberation of the country from he foreign Affairs. The Ministry of Home Affairs now yoke, should run from pillar to post in is an amalgamation of heterogeneous subjects. this way. Government should make proper The picture that emerges is that of Vishwa- arrangements for this. You pay them Rs. roopa; and this Vishwaroopa is very baffling 300/- only. This amount needs to be in also. 1 suggest reorganisation so that the creased. I would like you to pay heed to Ministry of Home Affairs may have an un this matter. divided attention to the task of law and order and to the task of preserving the integrity and unity of Indian and internal security and to [English] the task of dealing with high class crimes MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : I have which are resulting in huge losses of the received lots of petitions from my constitu finances of the States and the finance of pub ency. They are facing lots of problems. lic undertakings and of public financial insti tutions. [Translation\ The subject relating to the implementation SHRI D.L. BAITHA : Mr. Deputy of official language and the Census may be Speaker, Sir, I would like to say one thing. taken over by the Ministry of Education. The 20-Point Programme is being imple Similarly, the administration of the Union mented. For all other developmental works Territories perhaps with the exception of which you are undertaking, the unit is the Delhi may be taken over by a separate Minis Panchayat. Panchayat elections were held try. Rehabilitation of refugees and victims long back. Assembly elections were held of natural calamities and man-made calamities immediately after the Lok Sabha elections. along with providing employment to the thou 1 would request that, similarly, Panchayat sands and thousands of unemployed youths elections should also be held. After Pancha may be taken over by a different Ministry. yat elections, District Councils would be Then the subject of implementing the schemes formed. You should pay special attention relating to SC & ST and minorities may use towards this. fully be taken over by a separate Ministry. In - the end, 1 would like to say one 1 submit humbly that the task of law and thing more. The Members of the opposi maintaining of law and order has undergone tion parties have said that the incidents of a huge change, a phenomenal change during espionage have taken placc because all the the last decade. The complexity and density powers are concentrated in the hands of the of the problem relating to crime of very high Prime Minister. 1 would like to say that order, which is going undetected also requires power is concentrated at a place where it a separate dealing by the Home Ministry. should have been concentrated. But it is a Only yesterday we were dealing with one national issue and the opposition parties Sethia. There are many Sethias who are un should not have sympathy for the persobs discovered or undetected. In fact, if only 327 Demands for Grant* APRIL 2, 1953 Demands for Grants 3ZS (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 we go through the audit reports pre It is a pity that the Home Ministry is not sented by the Home Ministry and the able to face facts and it has no courage different departments, we will know the to face the facts. In any other country enormous losses, we will be aware of the at least the moral responsibility would have misappropriation and misuiilisation, the mis been owned by the top persons, but it is feasance with regard to crores of rupees that amazing that none of the persons owned the is going undetected. Therefore, 1 submit, moral responsibility for this colossal lapse on that it is high time that the Home Ministry is the part of the Security. Not a single person split up into different Ministries and subjects resigned ! Not a single person owned it. It connected with law and order and crime and is not that I want anybody to be made a criminal jurisprudence are taken over by the scapegoat, but the fact that nobody is pre Home Ministry. pared to give an answer for this proved mishap is really startling. If this is the With regard to the law and order I may standard of rectitude on the part of the top say that it is a colossal failure and the very people of the Home Ministry, then it really fact that in the capital, Shrimati Indira means that we have come to a stage when we Gandhi was assassinated due to laches on the have to worry about the rectitude, the integ part of the security or rather due to the dis rity and honesty of those persons who are loyally of the security speakes volumes for running the Ministry and the Police forces. them. What followed subsequently, the law lessness that prevailed in the capital, resulting There is a mention that there were in senseless killing of innocent persons again communal disturbances in several States. The speaks volumes for it. Unfortunately, there terrorist activities in Punjab are also men has been no mention about this at all in the tioned. Only last year this House has passed report presented to the House. 1 do not a special Act called the Terrorist Areas Spe- know why the reasons for this at least were cialE nactrnent which came into force in 1984. not stated, and it is very significant that not Unfortunately it has not been mentioned as a single person owns responsibility for this to how many persons were prosecuted under apparent and collossal mishap that had this Act and with what result. I suggest that happened due to the proved innefficiency of the Act must be enforced in those areas where the policing system of the Home Ministry. there are chronic communal disturbances. But what is more tragic is the way in which the facts are sought to be glossed over With regard to Assam and Punjab, the in this report and are sought to be distorted Seventh Lok Sabha spent most its time dis is quite amazing. cussing these issues. Now, the same problems, are being discussed here. I hope that these I will only read this so that the way in two States will not become incurable and which the things are sought to be misrepre chronic ailments of the Home Ministry. 1 sented will be known to the House. This is hope, the problems of Assam and Punjab will what is stated. This is all that has been be solved and the Prime Minister’s move to stated : solve these problems will bear fruit. We pray all success for his effort. We hope that “In the wake of disturbances following we will not have an occasion to discuss the assassination of the former Prime Punjab and Assam at least by the next Budget Minister and due to wild rumours, a session. number of Sikh families migrated from various places to Punjab. In order to Coming to crime relating to mis-utilisation discourage such migration the con cerned State Governments were advised and misappropriation of funds of the State and public institutions, along with prosperity to take steps for the security of the and affluence there is an explosion of crime Sikhs." also. It has to be dealt with in a very seri This would read as though there were ous manner. The CHI is the only instrument merely wild rumours that made the Sikhs flee which deals with this type of crimes. This away from the capital and other places. It is ctlme has now become an international affair really astonishing that the fact that they were and foreigners are also participating in it. subjected to senseless attacks and assassiationi Trafficking in drugs* smuggling and all these >s not even mentioned. things have now come up to a higher level and 329 Demands for Grants CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 330 (General) 1985-86 (iGeneral) 1985-86 it is the very polished and white collared peo different. It was entirely an agricultural State. ple who are involved in these crimes. There There was no industry at all. There was no fore, it requires a new type of approach to commerce at that time. But now during these tackle this problem. The CBI is unfortunately three decade, lot of changes have taken place not having the equipment and the expertise and the values attached to items mentioned in to tackle this problem. I am sorry to say Lists 1 and II have also changed so thoroughly that there are no feathers in the cap of CBl, that all the States invariably feel that they If there are any feathers in the cap of CBI. are feeble and are not able to carry out the 1 would expect the Home Minister to exhibit duties asigned to them under Chapter IV of them. I am saying this not as an ordinary the Constitution, namely, the Directive Prin citizen but as a lawyer who has been practis ciples. They are not in a position to imple ing on the criminal side for the last 35 years. ment anyone of the Directive Principles. In 1 myself have appeared in several cases char this connection, I have to make only one ged by the CBI. Most of the cases ended as submission. The appointment of Governors flops in the courts. As a matter of fact, most has been attracting a lot of criticism. There of them ended in aquitlal only. If they give fore, I submit that deposed Chief Ministers a list of cases of important persons which and defeated M.Ps. must not be appointed as ended in punishment I will be too happy. On Governors. People with reputation, men of this aspect I would only like to quote a para letters and even great artists can be appointed graph from an article written by Shri N.S. as Governors so that the people in the Stale Saksena in the Times of India of today : feel that a very deserving and noble person is acting as Ihe Constitutional Head of the “The outside world thinks of the CBI State and they may draw inspiration from as a prestigious agency, which police him. I may respectfully submit that in this men all over India must be rushing to connection we may follow the example of join. The fact is that for severel years America. Even stalwarts and respected lea the CBI cannot get officers, who are ders of the Opposition may be appointed as willing to joint it, and several of the Governors provided they accept these posts. posts are lying unfilled for years. In This will go to strengthen the federal unity this atmosphere the CBI has often to of India. With these words, I conclude. get second-rate officers on deputation and in this dilution of quality the CBI MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : There are and State CIDs have even accepted fifteen Hon. Members more who are going to officers lacking in integrity. All this speak. The Minister wants to reply at needs urgent attention. These jobs 6 0 ‘Clock. Therefore, I request those Mem should be made worthwhile for honest bers to stick to the time schedule, that is, five investigating officers so that CBl chiefs to six minutes each, and not more than that. and State CID chiefs can cast their netwide.” [Translation] I fully agree with the observations of this author and I submit that along with the CBI, SHRI RAM PRAKASH (Ambala) : Mr. let there be a Directorate of Prosecutions at Deputy Speaker, Sir, I support the Demands the Home Ministry level, headed by top jurists of the Home Ministry presented in the House. who are experts on the criminal side, because I feel that there have been several changes in that will give confidence that the CBI is not these demands, 1 congratulate you for this. going to be made use of as a political instru The Hon. Members have discussed at length ment of oppression to wreck vengeance against the Punjab problem. I would also like to ex- political opponents. pressmy views in that ragard. My constituency, Ambala, is adjacent to Punjab. I am fully Next I come to one simple point with aware of the problem of Punjab and of the regard to Centre-State relationship. I have happenings there and I also know what its to submit that though the Sarkaria Commis solution is. Many Hon.Members have appealed sion is there, this matter calls for urgent to the Akali leaders to come to terms and solution. When the Constitution came into improve the conditions in Punjab. But 1 existence in 1950 and when Lists 1 and II would like to inform you that the question came into force, the position of India was of the settlement of the problem has never 331 Demands for Grants APRIL 2, 1985 Demands for Grants 332 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 been in the minds of the Akalis. * * ...... supported his announcement and gave him due A few days back, Government released all respcct. the terrorist leaders who were in jails, in order to further improve the conditions in But 1 would like to mention here that the Punjab. But what happened? “Mar? badhta hi Congress rule has not started today, the gaya jyon jyon Dava Ki*’ As soon as the Congress has been in power for many years. Akalis came out of jails, they started talking During the Congress rule, plans and schemes in the same tone as before. were formulated for the uplift of the poor the Harijans and the Tribals and for raising So, the question is how they should be their standard of living and they were imple dealt with when they do not listen to anybody mented also. We have also seen that our and do not heed any appeal. Whenever any Government are determined, to see that these appeal is made to them by our Government people are helped and uplifted. Many schemes or by our Members or by any leader of are formulated by our Planning Minister, but India, or they are invited for talks, incidents at the implementation stage, there is slac of killings, murders and shoot outs take kness and our officers do not allow them to place. be implemented. The Secretaries and other bureaucrats in the Ministries do not have Incidentally, our Prime Minister is any sympathy for the poor. This is the reason present here. I would request him not-to why despite formulation of so many plans, show any leniency to them and not to make and despite incurring heavy expenditure, any appeal to them. Instead, you should these people have not got as much benefit as take action according to the decisions our Government intend to provide them. No taken by you and elections should be held plan is implemented properly. The biggest in Punjab. I think it fortunate for the country reason for this is that our bureaucracy is not that we have got a strong and young Prime functioning properly. Even to day, (he poor, Minister of whom we have hign expectations. the harijans and the Tribals are facing diffi We have a firm belief that our country would culties and are leading a miserable life. march towards progress, the standard of living of the people would improve and So far as provision of facilities to the incidents of thefts, dishonesty and corruption Harijans and backward classes is concerned, would all be banisned from India. I know many of our colleagi es have said that there what the condition of the country was when should be no reservation for them. 1 want to our young Prime Minister took the reins of ask them what the condition of the Harijans office in his hand. What had happened in in this counlry was 70 or 80 years ago. They the country when some cruel people had were treated like animals. People used to love murdered our leader, Smt. Indira Gandhi? their dogs, but they hated the Shudras and the There was an atmosphere of violence and Harijans. For centuries they have been lawlessness and disorder in the entire country subjected to so much cruelty that it cannot be at that time. On the one hand, the dead body described in words. Now they have been of the mother of our Prime Minister was given certain facilities in free India and the lying in his house and on the other hand, facility of reservation is very insignificant. entire Delhi was aflame. The imagination You can yourself see how many Harijans and sagaciousness with which he controlled have joined the services or have become the situation at that time has become an officers and how many persons have got any example for the entire world. At that time, other benefit. It is very insignificant. Even the new Prime Minister was faced with the to day, you would find a backlog in every law and order problem of such a large country cadre in the matter of reservation in services. and the manner in which he brought the I want to know how many Hariians are situation under control within two days has I. A. S. or 1. P. S. officers. In my view their no parallel in the world. Thereafter, he number would hardly be two to three per announced that poverty, corruption, thefts, cent. Their number cannot be more than dishonesty, dacoities, black-marketing and that. 1 whould therefore, request the Hon. atrocities would be banished from the country Prime Minister that a system should for all times to come. The enitre country be devised to ensure reservation for the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes in **Expunged as order by the Chair. the services so that nobody could violate 333 Demands for Grants CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 334 {General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 those rules and you could identify the officer, of Agriculture, Sardar Buta Singh, who had departmentwise, who did not fill the reserved refused to bow before the Akali Communal- quota of Harijans or denied them promotions. ism and instead preferred nationalism. He You should punish such officers. Unless you did not agree to go when summoned by the punish the corrupt and the dishonest in the High Priests. This shows his spirit of administration, your plans cannot be imple nationalism in a way. This is expected of mented completely and you cannot achieve great men and also the political workers of the objective for which they have been for the country. If Jhe had not done so, then mulated. When I was the Home Minister in Akali would have continued to summon any Haryana, I found that corruption was incre Sikh to a Gurudwara, Brahmins would have asing, incidents of thefts, dacoities and continued to summon anybbdy to a temple, dishonesty are increasing. I suspended four Muslims to a mosque and Anglo-Indians to or five D. S. Ps. and 10 to 15 S. H. Os. You a Church, which would have tantamounted should also take some harsh measures. So to disregard of nationalism. None can be long as you do not take such steps, you will given such a right. We want that the steps not be able to achieve your objective. taken under the great leadership of Shri Rajiv Gandhi should be continued. Our I want to say a few words about the nationalism should blossom day by day and poor tenants. The tenants who have been such type of communalism should cease to cultivating the land for fifty years, are being be there. uprooted. Besides big people, officers are also involved in it. The officers of that My friends have covered all other points, area evict these poor people, who earn by but I want to submit that the question of the sweat of their brow after taking bribe. language is also related to the Ministry of They are evicted from their lands in no Home Affairs. The Ministry of Home Affairs time and are ruined. They run from pillar is charged with the onerous task of maintain to post with their woes but nobody is these ing the integrity security and unity of the to listen to them. country ; the question of language pis also linked with the national unity. It is well At the same time, I also want to say known that without language neither litera that whosover speaks against them in Punjab ture is possible nor education nor culture. is put on the ‘hit-list’. Our Chief Minister Without all these things, no country can of Haryana and myself are on their hit list. claim to be developed. 1 want to submit that you should look into it and take same steps in this regard. When the constitution of our country camej into effect in 1950, Hindi was declared With these words, 1 conclude. the national language and the official langu age of the country. The work in Hindi SHRI NARESH CHANDRA CHATUR- should have progressively increased. For VEDI (Kanpur) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, this purpose, many provisions were made, I am grateful to you that you have given me but only one commission was set up for that an opportunity to speak. I heartily support and none thereafter. With various amend the Annual Report and the demands for ments made in the Act, the work was, in Grants of the Ministry of Home Affairs, fact, put in the reverse gear. The time of 15 presented by the Hon. Home Minister. I years was provided in the constitution so also thank the Hon. Home Minister for the that the people who had been doing work commendable steps taken by him for main in English for year and who were not fluent taining law and order in the larger part of in Hindi might not feel any difficulty. From the country. 1950 we reached 1954, from 1954 use came to 1980 and from 1980 it is now 1985. During these 35 years, the He has solved the problems relating to question of national language, the question Punjab, Assam and the North Eastern region of all Indian languages, has been put in a with great restraint. For that also, 1 thank reverse process. It gives me great pain to him, say that the use of Hindi should have increased during all these years and all 1 also want to thank the Union Minister Indian languages should have developed and 335 Demands for Giants APRIL 2, 1985 Demands for Grants 3 36 {General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 become the media for expressing our to find out how Hindi was progressing there. thoughts in our own languages, but this has Nobody knows what their report is and what not happened so fay. Hindi continues to be their suggestions are nobody knows what the principal language in the Constitution Government’s reaction was to their report even today. English is the secondary langu and suggestions. Jt should be made public. age, but, in practice, it is the other way What is the present s>iate of affairs with round. English continues to be the principal regard to the use of Hindi in our embassies language even today. Hindi does not seem abroad ? I would say that we should stop to be occupying even the place of a subsidi worrying about foreign countries. First of ary language. After all, when wiii this pro all, we should worry about our own country, cess be reversed ? This reverse process should because, it would be better if the Indian be set right. languages are developed. If our regional langu ages at the State level and our official langu 1 would submit to the Hon. Home age at the Central level are not used, the Minister that the suggestions given by your entire effort becomes meaningless. 1 shall go Ministry are not implemented and the still further to reveal how the process is in suggestions contained in the reports regard the reverse gear in the matter of language. ing progressive use of Hindi are also not Our University Grants Commission have implemented. given a new decision that the people aspiring There is no implementation of the sug to pursue research work must have know gestions contained in the report submitted ledge of English language. Englisn is com by the Central Hindi Committee, of which pulsory for them. I want to know whether our Prime Minister is the Chairman. The when Hindi and the regional languages have publications in the Ministry of Law are been accepted as the medium of instruction printed in Hindi after 3 to 5 years when in 80 to 90 Universities of the country, it is they are translated into Hindi. The fact not a step in the reverse direction to make remains that as long as yoa continue to the knowledge of English compulsory for maintain Hindi as a language of translation, those who have done M.A. in Hindi and Hindi and other Indian languages cannot want to pursue Ph. D. and D. Litt. courses ? progress. The moment a language becomes a What is the meaning of this retrograde Step? language of translation, it bccomes mechani If in this matter an adverse role is played cal and its natural flow disappears. by the University Grants Commission, the computers, our bureaucracy and by those Today, we are in the computer age. who are not interested in working in the Computer has no language of its own. We country, how can the atmosphere throughout want to carry the country forward towards the country be changed and how can we modernisation. But, there are people who succeed in this endeavour ? I would request put hindrances in the use of a language on the Hon. Home Minister to be cautious in the pretext of shortage of typewriters and the matter of language. It must be kept in stenographers. Therefore, it you do not mind that Gandhiji had said that a country develop the use of Hindi, the work would whose language was not developed was continue to be done in English. We are dumb. introducing computer in every field and due There is another point which fyas been to this, perhaps, the use of Hindi will lag stressed by the people the world over behind and there will be still greater use of that if we do not develop aur language, if English. Therefore, the language of the there is no consensus about our language, it computer should be changed or rather the is impossible to preserve the unity of the computer should be modernised. Moder country. Therefore, do not let this become nisation demands that it should be developed an impossible task : make it possible by in the context of the progressive use of encouraging Indian languages and by making Hindi and all the Indian languages. Hindi the language of the Union in the real The Work of our Committee of Parlia sense. ment on official language and ?of the Parlia *SHRI MOTILAL HANSDA (Jhar- mentary Team, who superwise the work gram) : Sir, the demands of the Ministry of relating to the progressive use of Hindi, has been relegated to the background. A dele *The speech was originally delivered gation from here went to foreign countries in Bengali. 337 Demands for Grants CHAITRA 12, 4907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 338 (General) 1985-85 {General) 1985-86 Home Affairs are under discussion here, have been taken to ensure that they are not Whiie participating in this discussion, I will dispossessed of that land by fraudulent confine myself only to the problems of the means by anybody. Not only they have been Adivasis and tribals and the schemes taken given land, but they have also been provided up by the Central G;>vern.nent for their with other facilities so that they can culti welfare and upliftment. vate their land properly. In other States wherever the Adivasis tried to recover pos Sir, 1 am sorry to say that after 37 years session of the land which was illegally of independence, even today the Adivasis taken away from, them or they tried to take remain neglected and very backward in every possession of the ‘khas land, terrible atroci respect; social, economic and political. ties were let loose on them. Their hearth Although the Central Government has under and home are being burnt down even today. taken various schemes and developmental Such incidents have taken place in Bihar, in plans for the amelioration of their condition, Madhya Pradesh and in some other States yet a large section of the Adivasis remain also. I will urge upon the Government to illiterate and in darkness, far from the light see that such incidents do not recur. of civilization even in this twentieth century. Even today all exploitation and atrocities Sir, you know that the Adivasis depend on them, far from being stopped, are actually on the various forest products for earning on the increase. Adivasi women are being their livelihood. As most of the forests arc brutally raped in many States of our country. getting denuded today, the Adivasis are facing great hardship and proolems. For this destruc Sir, most the tribals and Adivasis do tion, of forests, the Adivasis are being blamed. not own any land. They work on other This may be partially true but this is not people’s land or in some private factories ' the only cause. There are many other causes etc. owned bylothers. to earn their livelihood, as well. Had the Government provided them Hard physical labour is their only source of with alternative sources of earing their livel- income and livelihood. Taking advantage hood, then the Adivasis would not have of their weak position the owners deprive them solely depended on the forests. of just and legitimate wages. Many adverse comments have been made here by some Sir, the Government has introduced the ‘lamp’ project, but funds are not timely Congress Members about the law and order situaiion in West Bengal. In this context 1 provided to this Project. This project was would like to mention that in Tripura and set up for the purpose of purchasing the West Bengal the left front Government there produce of the Adivasis at a fair price. But since the ‘lamp* is not provided with timely has taken certain steps to ensure that the funds for making these purchases, the Adivasis in those States get their iust wages. No atrocities are being committed on them Adivasis are compelled to fall in the clutches and people of all communities are living in of the moneylenders and traders and to sell peace and harmony there. But in other their products to them at a very cheap States of our country these poor people far price. They are cheated in this process. from getting just wages do not even get Further, Sir, the Government has taken the minimum living wages for survival. These up the I.T.D.P. scheme for the development poor illiterate people have been dispossessed of the Adivasis. All the Adivasis do not of whatever little land they possessed ear fall withing the ambit of this scheme, and lier, by the moneylenders illegally and through consequently do not get the benefits of this various fradulent methods. They continue scheme. Gnly the people of those areas get to be cheated by the moneylenders. This way the benefit of this scheme who have been the Adivasis are turning into a landless class demarcated for that. Adivasis of other day by day. No arrangement has been to areas are deprived of the benefit. As a give land to these Adivasis. The schemes of result of this, discontent is brewing among the Government regarding distribution of them. I will requist the Government to see surplus ‘khas land’ above the ceilings, to that all the Adivasis all over the country get the Adivasis have proved deficient and have adequate opportunities for development. not been effectively implemented. But in West Bengal and in other places where the left Now about their education, I will sub front Government ii in power, land has been mit that today the Adivasis form about distributed among the Adivasis and step* 7-5% of our popylatioin. 1 will ask the 339 Demands for Grants CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 340 {General) 1985-86 {General) J985-86 Hon. Minister what is the number of envisaged or incorporated, nor any addi educated persons among this vast section tional allocations made for this purpose of our population ? This is very insigni over and above what was done in the pre ficant. You have been in power for a such vious years. After this budget is passed, I a long time, but you have failed to do not believe that there will be any signi provide them with adequate educational ficant improvement in the conditions of the facilities. The main reason why the adivasis adivasis. Therefore, I cannot join my voice are unable to come up in the field of with the Congress members in support of education, is their language problem. In this Budget. 1 oppose these demands of the West Bengal the left front Government has Ministry of Home Affairs. given recognition to the language of the adi- vasis. Sir, our problem, the problem of the SHR1MATI SUNDERWATI NAWAL adivasis, is that we can not study in our own PRABHAKAR (Karol Bagh; : Mr. Chair language. The adivasi children speak in their man, Sir, 1 represent an area of Delhi where mother tongue in childhoold. When he goes poor people live. That is why 1 was anxious school he has to study in a totally unfamiliar to express my views about Delhi on the language. That discourages him and he is floor of the House. Delhi is the capital of tempted to run away from school. That is why our country, but still many atrocities are we are backward in education. I will urge the being committed here to which 1 want to Central Government that if they have an draw the attention of the Hon. Home iota of feeling and concern for the welfare Minister. of the adivasis, then proper facilities should be provided to the Adivasis for study in Before 1977-78, a very good atmosphere their own mother tongue. 1 also demand prevailed in the capital, both with regard to that the Nepali language must be included the police and people and there was nothing in the 8th schedule of our Constitution. to be afraid of. The Janata Party Govern Sir, I will now say a few things about ment was formed in 1977 and I was elected the reservation policy of the Government. to the Metropolitan Council. At that lime, The adivasi boys do not get full opportunity the Janata Parly Government had constitu of employment in the service quota reserved ted a Police Commission. We opposed it, for them in various Government and semi but since the Janata Party was in power, that Government establishments. They are denied proposal was cleared. Since then, the employment opportunities on the plea that atmosphere has been vitiated and it has suitable and capable candidates are not deteriorated to such an extent that heinous available among them. But this is absolute crimes have started taking place to which fallacy. There are many capable and quali attention needs to be given. fied candidates available among the adivasis. Many posts reserved for the adivasis have I want to quote some instances before been dereserved in many establishments and you. 1 want to speak about the women they have been filled by general category who are burnt and even killed and those candidates. Who says adivasis are not small buds who are just crushed and thrown capable and qualified ? Among the adivasis away. Such incidents are taking place in in Class III and Class IV jobs there are the capital daily. All types of people live many qualified persons available. I will in Delhi; people having faith in different urge the Hon. Minister to see that the adi religions, and hailing from different States vasis are not deprived of their just rights in and tourists from foreign countries also this manner. No body will believe that suit come here. As such, Delhi holds a place of able candidates for the Class III and Class importance. If such incidents continue to IV posts are not available among the adivasis, take place daily, what can be said about it ? I shall put forth my views briefly. 1 16.59 hrs am a lady Member from Delhi and I hope you will be considerate to me. As soon as [SHRI SHARAD DIOHE in the Chair ] you order, 1 shall take my seat. In conclusion 1 will say that in this year’s budget i do not find anything new The law and order situation in Delhi regarding the upliftment and welfare of the was regarded most satisfactory till some adivasis. No new schemes have been years ago in comparison with that in other 341 Demands for Grant's APRIL 2, 1985 Demands for Grants 342 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 metropolitan citics but, for some years the Sir, I would like to inform the Hon, situation in Delhi has deteriorated to ‘such' Minister that these dacoits come io cars or extent that it is worse than in other cities. motor cycles, resort to indiscriminate shoot Incidents of theft, dacoity, murder, rape ing and run away with the looted property. I have become quite common. Hardly a day fail to understand how in spite of the passes when a heinous crimc or incident elaborate police and C. I. D. arrangements docs not take place. Chain snatching has in the whole of Delhi these people manage to become a thing of common occurrence. Now cross the Delhi border by road, and they are the situation is that a woman wearing jewel not apprehended. The pedestrians just look lery hesitates to go outside her house. at these robbers but nobody tells us the direction in which they have gone. They are The incidents of rape are increasing day afraid lest they should be shot dead. by day. A few days ago, a so-called priest of a temple had committed a heinous crime Regardii\g the incident that occurred with against a girl of tender age. Even today, the late Prime Minister, 1 would like to ask news item has been published in the daily whether 10 to 15 security men always ac Hindustan that a two-year old girl was companied her, it was not their duty to form raped. Earlier, a man named Narpat of a ring around her after hearing one or two Motia Khan enticed a girl of tender age shots; whereas the fact is that several shots through his wife and then committed a were fired ? It was their duty to have sur heinous crime against her. That man was rounded the Prime Minister and sacrific arrested and put on trial. The court fined ed their lives to save her when they him Rs. 1,000 and in default thereof an heard the shots being fired at her. imprisonment of 6 months was awarded to But they were scared to face the him. I would like to say to the Hon. Home bullets. I do not know what the mystery Minister that this six months imprisonment behind it is. The security men on the border or a fine of Rs. 1,000 cannot be called with guns on their shoulders are ready to save justice to that girl. That culprit will come their country by risking their lives. They out of jail. But what will happen to the want to protect the country. But the officers child against whom this heinous crime was in the country who are incharge of the in committed ? ternal security, shirk their responsibility and they do not want to face the bullets. If this The Government should take stern steps situation is going to continue then nothing regardnig such incidents which are taking would improve. Hon. Members from different place daily. I would like to say that such States have narrated. What type of type of criminals should be given deterrent Crimes are being committed in their res punishment. Death penalty is awarded in pective areas and how the Harijans are killed our country but here also a man takes 1 to 2 or other persons are waylaid. Recently, in minutes to die. I want that such criminals Punjab, passengers were dragged out of a bus should be publicly lashed or they should be and shot dead. What was their crime ? Why punished in such a manner that they suffer a do Government not take some posiLive steps living death. Such punishment will open the to curb such activities ? What I mean to say eyes of the people and they will be afraid of is that some stern measures will have to be committing such crimes. taken. The poilce complain of inadequate salary and allowances. Government should Sir, now I come so dacoities. Some days pay attention to their grievances. If the ago, a dacoity was committed a second time poilce strength is inadequate, it should be in a farm-house but there is no clue to that augmented. 1 do not say that all policemen till today. The Syndicate Bank in Karol are bad; there are some policemen who do Bagh area was robbed 4 to 5 years ago in preform their duties, but most of them shirk which 4 youths came in a jeep. Two youths their respor.sibilites. remained in the jeep and the other two entered the Bank and looted the money. So, attention should be paid towards the That case has also not been solved. On the security of the country and our mothers and 13th March, 1985 three youths robbed Rs, 4 listers should be protected and their tales of lakhs in Greater Kailash but no arrest has woe should be heard. Steps should be taken been made in this respect. to improve the law and order situation and 343 Demands for Grants APRIL 2, 1983 Demands far Grants 344 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 •trengthen the security measures. solemnly declare that 1 would resign from the Membership of the House. It has pained me SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH that the police have resorted to such methods. (Jah&nabad) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, I am You must have come to know through the thankful to you for giving me an opportunity speeches made by several Members here and to speak. Some conclusion should be drawn through the press reports that the police per from the two day debate on rhe Home sonnel are corrupt. There has been a news- Ministry’s Demands for Grants. It is item about misbehaviour by a police officer apparent that the Ministry of Home Affairs in Rajasthan with a woman. The Chief plays a pivotal role Vis-a-vis the other Minister of that State had said that the Ministries and it has failed miserably in this person concerned would be presecuted. I am role, which in turn affects all the other saying this with honesty that such an incident Ministries. It is not sufficient to point out has taken place with us, I urge the Hon. failures—I am addressing the opposition Home Minister to conduct an inquiry into it. benches -b u t we must give suggestions. There A person in your congress party who is are many reasons for this failure which should called **. He regards himself to be very be conceded by the Hon. Minister. If we close to the Prime Minister. He bullies the have a look at all the events, whether they officers in a such a way that the officers think were connected with the Golden Temple, the that he is really very near to the Prime assassination of the late Prime Minister or Minister. He was defeated in the Lok Sabha the carnage which followed it as a reaction ; elections. After eight days he was taken these are the evidences of this failure. Some into ...** This definitely shows that he is people may not agree to it, because some of really very close to him and there must be the Members have claimed that Government some understanding between them. In this have been successful. 1 do not want to way he got me arrested. A conspiracy was go into the details because several Hon. hatched to kill me. I am giving you some Members have advanced their arguments. But proof, in the report that has come it is I want to place before you the present con written : ditions, and the excesses being committed against the people. A person like me, who is a Member 'of this House, also had some [English'] sad experience. This House was informed by the officers of the Bihar Govenment that “Shri Ramashray Prasad Singh, M. P., I was arrested while engaged in booth-cap has been forwarded in custody on 2nd turing in Telhara village in Islampur Assembly March, 1985 to the Judicial Magistrate, constituency of Nalanda district of Bihar Hilsa Court, District Nalanda*'. along with many articles and that I was trying to escape in a jeep. All these things [Translation] are concocted and far from the truth. Here 1 am not clarifying the position. If the Hon. This report is totally wrong. I was for warded to the court at 3 p.m on the 3rd Members, whether from this side or that March whereas it is written in the report side, are honest then they do not deserve that I was forwarded on 2nd March. I have to be Members of this House. We may boldly say that we are honest. I am throwing with me the evidence. The officer has written that we were produced before him at 3 p.m. you a challange. You help us, If truth comes out from the inquiry then how will I want that this should be investigated by the inquiry be held ? The officer who arrested Central Bureau of Investigation. us was of the rank of Superintendent of police. {Interruptions ) 1 was sitting there. Two Securitymen of the Bihar Government were with us. All were SHRIMATI KRISHNA SAHI (Begu- arrested. They made out a case that sarai) : This is a bogus report ...... we were running away in a jeep with some articles. As per the seizure list (Interrupt ions ) submitted in the court, not a single in criminating item was recovered. I have SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH: written to the Hon. Speaker asking him to If it is a bogus report then 1 challenge you. get the inquiry conducted through the C. B. I, If the inquiry report goes against me, then I **Not recorded. 345 Demands for Grants CHAITRA 12, J 907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 346 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 that you got cent per cen votes through booth The question of according the status of capturing .. (Interruptions) I am a Member scheduled tribe are to Ladakh and Kargil and it is your duty to help me ...... in Jammu and Kashmir has been pending for long. I have learnt that the State Govern (Interruptions ) ment have submitted the matter to you along with their recommendations and the Articlc SHRI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN which is applicable in this respect. I would (Rosera) : We are discussing the Demands request you to give consent to it at the of the Home Ministry. It is not proper to earliest so that they may be given the status have personal discussion about those Mem of scheduled tribe area and the people may bers who are not present in the House. It is enjoy all the facilities which are available to our request thar it may be expunged.. the people of the adjacent areas and the (Interruptions) people of the region extending from Eastern States to the Himachal Pradesh. All these MR. CHAIRMAN : There should be no areas were declared scheduled tribe areas much personal discussion here. earlier but the people of Ladakh and Kargil have been denied of his benefit to-dale. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH: The Home Minister should tel! us while reply Secondly, I would like to submit that ing whether the matter would be investigated priority should be given to the people of or not. Jammu in the matter of recruitment to para military forces, like the B. S. F, and C. R. P., SHRIMATI KRISHNA SAHI : Mr. because there is acute unemployment in our Chairman, Sir, what ruling have you given on area. There is a drought condition pre the point of order ? The Hon. Member, about vailing in the two Assembly segments of the whom remarks have been made here ** is Jammu constituency, There, has been cent not present in the House to defend himself. per cent failure of crops in that area and the When reflection is being cast on him and we people have nothing to eat. So I urge you have raised a Point of Order then what is that our people should be recruited to these your ruling in the matter ? We would like to forces on priority basis. know about it. \ English] Thirdly, I would like to say that if you really want to eliminate untouchability from MR. CHAIRMAN : 1 shall go through the society, then its solution lies in land the debate and decide this matter. reforms only. It is our experience that where land reforms have been brought about, un [Translation] touchability has vanished from there. The grant which is being given for the develop SHRI G. L. DOGRA (Udhampur) : Mr. ment of Scheduled Castes is very little. It Chairman, Sir, I would like to bring to the should be increased. Hon. Members of the House that for some time past, not only India but the entire world has been passing through a difficult period I shall now say something about Hindi. and there has been abnormal situation, parti So far as the development and propagation of Hindi is concerned, the incentives which are cularly in Northern India which includes Rajasthan, Kashmir, Punjab, etc. In the being given for it should be increa sed so that first instance, I would like to congratulate the there is greater propagation of Hindi and Hon. Home Minister for his attempt to solve people are attracted to learning it. This will the problems which had arisen in extraord help us in strengthening national integration. inary circumstances, amicably and in a It is essential especially in the Kashmir friendly manner, which deserves to be com Valley and the Muslim areas. If more people mended. As the time at my disposal is learn Hindi, the whole country will be short, I would like to draw the attention of benefitted. the Hon. Minister to some important points without going into the details, I would like to make a submission regarding the poor sections of the society, the farmers and particularly in regard to the **Not recorded. eviction of tenants of my area. They are 3 4? Demands for Grants APRIL 2. 1985 Demands for Grants 348 0General) 1985-86 {General) 1985-86 being evicted today and it is very necessary are put an end to. to curb this practice. Although you are not directly connected with it, you can bring this Riots take place now and then but who to the notice of the Government of that State is responsible for them. Some of our friends that if they want peace, then eviction has to were telling that our Prime Minister had be stopped. The conditions there are such said something about the Opposition. The that the crops have failed and they have been Opposition always tries to defame the Con- left with nothing to eat. In such conditions ress. The riots in Delhi broke out on a there is likelihood of disorder spreading in large scale and under extraordinary circum that area. So, it is essential that to eviction stances but the way the riots were controlled of the poor tenants is stopped forthwith. has no example in history. But none from thn Opposition has praised the steps taken I would like to make a submission that in this regard. They want inquiry. It their the administration should be asked to give intentions are good then we arc not against proper representation to the people belonging tne inquiry and the guilty should be appre to the weaker sections and the backward hended. But they want to defame our party areas, in the hospitals, medical colleges and by giving false evidence before the Commis engineering colleges and to do justice unto sion. This will worsen the situation and we them. would not be able to control it. This is why I say that we should support the person who Your policy in Assam and Punjab has protects the poor and is with them. been quite successful. An Assamese friend was teiling me, and we had heard in Lok The Prime Minister went to Ahmedabad Sabha also last year how riots and broken in order to curb the riots. He visits the out there but today Assam is normal. I place where the situation goes out of control congratulate you for this, but the other trivial and tries to bring the situation under control. issues that remain should also be resolved. I appeal to the Opposition to cooperate with us, otherwise the situation in the country will further deteriorate. You want to So far as Punjab is concerned, it has been a disturbed area. I think the normalcy make allegations. Such types of thinking will not pay. which was there earlier cannot be restored. But your approach to the problem and the manner in which it has been controlled is I appeal to the Opposition to cooperate. commendable. But the tension will continue This country belongs to all of us. If you there till elections are held. If you hold regard the country as your own, then you will elections to Parliament or to the state have to cooperate with the Government and legislature, then there is chance of normalcy the Home Ministry. If you hesitate in being restored. Without it, restoration of extending cooperation, then the situation normalcy is impossible. will deteriorate and it will take time to improve it. The problem would of course be The incidence of excess on the women solved ultimately. and the weaker sections are not so significant today. The people have become enlightened With these few words, I support the in this respect. They protest over such demands for Grants and I hope the House things. Excesses used to be committed will pass them unanimously. earlier also, but the cases were not reported to the Police then. The percentage was SHRI C. JANGA REDDY (Hanam- shown less and the people were suppressed. konda) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, an Hon. lady There are some States even now where the Member was saying earlier that the law and poor are suppressed and they are beaten up order situation had detrioraled in 1977 but the situation is satisfactory in most of because the Bharatiya Janata Party was ruling the regions. It is not that such incidents or at that time. She does not know the such type of disturbances do not take place difference between the Janata Party and the now. But I do not think that excess have Bharatiya Janata Party, How many riots, increased. It is good that the weaker sections murders, dacoities took place during the and the women are becoming enlightened. Janata Party rule ? Once you sec the figures They should be helped so that such crimes you will be convined that the law and order 349 Demands for Grants CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 350 (GeneraI) 1985-86 (General) 1985-96 situation had improved considerably during able. Employment opportunities are not these two years. available. For this reason, the educated are instigating others. The extremists are inciting (Interruptions) the public. You have not tried to find out the reason behind it. All these things are You are saying this bccause you cannot happening on account of the unemployment. see the facts. We want industries, but you have not been able to set them up there even after 35 years Just now Dogra Sahib was saying that of independence. A Scientists Committee the Opposition should cooperate with the had recommended the setting up of a Railway Government. I would like to inform him Coach Factory there but nothing has been that we have always been cooperating and done to-date. demanding that the Opposition parties should be taken into confidence. The extremists in Punjab want a separate nation or an autonomous State. The actions I would like to say to the Hon. Minister of the Government are just like that of a that justice has not been meted out in the doctor who is giving medicine for the incidents of riots. The Prime Minister, Shri stomach to a patient who is dying of fever. Rajiv Gandhi is trying to add fuel to the In this way, Government have failed to curb fire rather than solve the problem. The the extremists’ activities in Punjab and problem cannot be solved by alleging that the Andhra Pradesh. At page 3 of the Report, opposition parties had a hand in the riots. it has been said : They take the credit for any good work, but in the case there is some trouble, the [English] Opposition is blamed for it. This is no good. Is this the policy of the Congress ? “Bulk of the incidents were concentrated mainly in Andhra Pradesh and Bihar. (Inter ruptions) There have also been incidents of extre mists Violence in West Bengal, Maha Our party expels the wrongdoers. It rashtra and Tamil Nadu”. does not keep them in the party. You are reaching an agreement to oppose the Telugu [Translation] Desam Party of Andhra Pradesh. In this way, the Report has revealed the Just have a look at the Kashmir problem, situation in Andhra Pradesh, We urge the You are just evading it. Similarly, the Prime Minister to adopt measures to solve Assam problem is hanging fire and you are the unemployment problem there. It is not trying to solve it. You held elections necessary to solve the unemployment problem there to instal a Congress Chief Minister. An there to put an end to the extremists* acti M.L.A, won by a margin of 16 votes. The vities. But the recruitment in the Police people boycotted the elections. In this Forces is being made. Government are situation, he took 16 people of his own spending crores of rupees in Andhra Pradesh, family to cast votes in the elections and got Orissa, Maharashtra and Delhi for making himself installed as Chief Minister, but he recruitment to the Police Forces. If this could not hold elections to the Lok Sabha. money is used for solving the problem of In the Report it has been stated that there is unemployment, this problem can be solved no trouble in Assam and the Punjab tangle to a great extent. This is my submission is nearing solution. I would like to inform in this regard. ( Interruptions ) I would request the House that the law and order situation you to give me five minutes more., in the South is not satisfactory. The Regio nal Engineering College in Warangal is lying MR. CHAIRMAN : No, no, Every closed due to the law and order problem. Member has been allotted five minutes or six Some students were killed in Binar. The minutes. You have already taken six parents are not prepared to send their child minutes. ren to North India. There is unemployment in Andhra Pradesh and Warangal. For the SHRI C. JANGA REDDY : It is your last 6 to 7 years, famine conditions are pre own Babu’s raj. In our State, the Nizam vailing t k » . Drinking water is not avail used to have 100 m\zs,.»(Interruptlons) 351 Demands for Giants APRIL 2t 19S5 Demands for Grants 352 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985*86 [English] away from it, there is a place called Yanam which is inhabited by Telugus. it is being MR. CHAIRMAN : You have already administered by Pondicherry. Pondicherry is taken six minutes. Only one more minute beyond Madras and this place is 600 Km. can be given to you now. away from Pondicherry. There is no pro hibition at all and no excise duly on liquor t Translation] there. The liquor is supplied there from Pondicherry, whereas it should be supplied SHRI C. JANGA REDDY : Sir, I have from Kakinada in Andhra Pradesh One can received this letter from your Lok Sabha bring liquor in any quantity from Andhra Secretariate. It has been written in that Pradesh, which is only 16 miles away and letter that I have been allotted 12 minutes drink it, but it is supplied to Yanam from and that I should intimate the name of the Pondicherry. I urge the Government to Department on which I wanted to speak. I merge Yanam with Andhra Pradesh. I do had intimated that I wanted to speak on not know if the centre should have any the Ministry of Home Affairs and 1 should, objection to such merger. U is being therefore, be given three more minutes. administered by Pondicherry which is 600 Km. away. Such things are aggravating the Nizam had one hundred wives and he law and order problem. Yanam is 15 miles could please none of them. Similarly, the away from Kakinada and one has to travel Ministry of Home Affairs have many 600 Kms. to reach there. Out of this 600 Branches, the Development Branch, and the Kms., one has to travel 400 Kms. within Union Territories Branch. I have gone Andhra Pradesh and 15 Kms. in sea also. It through this report and came to know would be better if it is merged with from it that the Home Ministry has many Andhra Pradesh. Similarly, Andamans Branches and subjects to deal with, such as should also be merged with some State Sub-Plan, Tribal Plan, Harijan Development and the State Government should run and Elections, etc. I had thought that the the administration there. Why should the Home Ministry must be dealing with only ccntre itself run the administration there ? the law and order problem, but when I went In my view perhaps, the bureaucracy want home and read this Report. I found that they to run the administration there. I have said have so many Branches. The number of that the Union Minister cannot see all this. subjects under the Ministry of Home Affairs Government send big officers there lo main is more than the number of wives of the tain their influence. The Lt. Governor Nizam. I would, therefore, urge as Reddy runs the administration there. ( Interruption) Saheb has also said, that this Ministry 1 would like to say that whether it is should be reorganised. Meghalaya or Andamans, ‘Baous’ or IAS Officers working in Delhi, make tour pro Delhi, is governed by the Central grammes to visit the area and go there to Government. Chandigarh is a small-city. It enjoy themselves. You have reorganised the would have been better if you could have states in a linguistic basis. Then how is given it to Punjab earlier. Now, when they Delhi under the Central Government ? Why are agitating, Government are prepared to do you not merge it with the nearby States ? hand it over to them. The mother gives What is the difficulty about it ? food to the child only when he cries. Simi (Interruptions) larly, the Central Government listens only to those who resort to agitations against the I would also like to say that the Pten3 Central Government, disrupt the railways, and Sub-Plans for the Scheduled Tribes services, or commit murders. Only then should also be formulated like those formu they try to extinguish the fire. It is not a lated for the Scheduled Castes. good thing. Action should be taken at the appropriate time. One should get whatever So far as pension to the Freedom is one’s due. Similarly, there are nine Union Fighters is concerned, it has been turned into Territories which are centrally administered. an industry in Andhra Pradeth. I would I wouid like to cite an incident about one of like to remind you that the signatures of the them. Defence Minister are being forged there. When Shri Narasitnha Rao was the Minister Near Kakinada, that is, about 15 miles for External Affairs, forged certificates in 353 Demands for Grants CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 354 {General) 1985-86 {General) 1985-86 his name were being issued. He had denied Neither telephone facilities nor any other those signatures also, but no cases have been means of communications are available there. filed in those cases till to day. Shri If ^telephone facilities are provided in Narasimha Rao had disclosed at a public villages, we shall be able to inform the meeting that the Freedom Fighters Pension police immediately in order to reduce the was being received from the Central Gov number of crimes. Besides, the police do ernment and the State Governments by forg not have adequate number of vehicles. They ing his signatures. He had added that it was should be pro/ided with Jeeps or motor wrong and he had not given any certificates cycles also. Villages should be linked with under his signatures. But even then no wireless system in order to cheek thefts there action was taken by the Central Government and to give benefit to the farmers. in that matter. Government should take action against such people and C.B.I. Mention has also been made about freedom enquiry should be ordered against those fighters in, this House. Unsavoury comments who have received freedom fighters’ pension are being made in this House against those by submitting forged certificates. Such per who went to jails, underwent many suffer sons should be prosecuted and charged ings, and left their families to free the with criminal offence. In addition, the money country from foreign yoke. I would like to received by them should also be recovered say that those who are 60 years of age, from them. As I had said earlier, the con should be sanctioned the pension within a gressmen in Andhra Pradesh have made it period of 2 months. Previously, they used an industry. The persons who have been to get a pension of Rs. 200. Now it has been defeated in the elections are issuing fake increased to Rs. 300. In my opinion it is certificates on payment of Rs. 500 I would still less. It should be further increased. We request that this should immediately be got freedom due to their sacrifices and hard- stopped. work. They had undergone many sufferings. Hence, the government should consider SHRI BHARAT SINGH (Outer Delhi) : increasing their pension. Mr. Chairman, Sir, 1 would like to draw the attention of the Home Minister towards You had earlier sanctioned Rs, 5,267 the law and order situation. Delhi is the crores for the scheduled castes which has capital of India and the law and order situa been increased to Rs. 18,382 crores in 1984 tion should be improved here. In 1977-78 85. I would like to say that this amount and 1978-79, the law and order situation in should be utilised properly so that the poor Delhi had deteriorated to such an extent are benefited. that women could not go to the market to bring vegetables and milk and children could Elections were recently held in the not go to the schools. Many cases of chain- entire country except in two or three States. snatching had taken place, but now the The police bandobust was very good at every situation in Delhi is different. There has place. Adequate arrangements were made in been a lot of improvement in the law and Delhi also. order situation in Delhi. Ever since Shri Rajiv Gandhi took the reins of the adminis I have heard that arrangements are tration in his hands, there has been con siderable improvement in the workers of the being made to allot plots measuring 25 sq. Government Offices, This improvement yards to the people living in Govindpuri and jhuggi-jhoupri areas, It is a very good step, must percolate to the low t ranks also whether they are police officers or other officers. The Police Officers and other per So far as Jammu and Kashmir is con sonnel should also behave properly with the cerned, we were not at fault there. Our people so that the general public could have Party was not at fault. It was their mutual confidence that the police is helping the conflict. He wanted to become the Chief people in distress* Only then would ! think Minister. that the law and order situation has improved. The opposition parties raise certain issues, which do create some hurdles. 1 You know that in rural areas electric would like to tell them there has been wire, starters and motors are pilfered. all round progress since Shri Rajiv Gandhi 355 Demands for Grants APRIL 2, 1955 Demands fo r Grants 356 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 became the Prime Minister, Under the 20- Therefore, the most important thing is to give point programme, assistance is being pro your language its proper place, We should vided to the poorest. Arrangements arc being start exchanging our views in Hindi, made to allot land to the landless. The Lt. Governor is distributing small plots to them. Mr. Chairman, Sir, by saying so, 1 am Improvement is being made in every field. not supporting Hindi. Hindi is not depen dent on any Government or Minister, it docs I thank you for allowing me to speak not exist on some body mercy. Hindi is the on the Demands for Grants in respect of the language of the soil of this country and the soil Ministry of Home Affairs. does not iook to any one. I would like to say that you may change or may not change your SHRI BALK AVI BAIRAGI (Mandsaur): opinion about Hindi, but you should change Mr. Chairman : Sir, I am very grateful your attittude towards Hindi. to you that you have given me an opportunity to express my views. 1 support the Demand As time is very short, I wouid like to say of the Home Ministry and, through you, I a very simple thing. I am grateful to you would try to put forth certain points for the for the service which you have rendered to consideration of the Home Minister. Hindi, but you may continue to serve English Mr. Chairman, Sir, what is the reason in the same manner as you have been doing why after Sardar Patel no Home Minister of so far. Your attitude during the last 38 years the country could got a place in the history has lowered the standard of the English of the country, which some one should have language to such an extent that children can got ? Whenever a reference is made about the neither write nor read not speak English Home Minister in some interviews, Sardar correctly. It is all due to your policy. If Patel’s name is mentioned and it appears that our children write their own name correctly history has come to standstill somewhere. 1 they write their father’s name incorrectly. The do not mean to say that after Patel, no merit- standard of English has been lowered during ovious person has occupied this office, the last 38 years. 1 am sure one day Her but why could they not find place in history ? Majesty the Oueen Elizaleth, Mrs. Margaret Perhaps they failed to come to grips with the Thatcher and Shakespeare, would bring a problem. But, in the presence of the Home deputation and request us to have mercy Minister, I would like to say one thing. So and leave their English alone. At their ins far as problems are concerned and so far as tance, perhaps we may have to leave it defi the power and the overall support of the peo nitely. ple is concerned there is no dearth of patri otic spirit among the people even today. The SHRI G1RDHARI LAL VYAS : From problems were there when there was the ques where would Shakespear come ? tion of unifying the country. But today the biggest challenge is the conspiracy to disintegr SHRI BALK A VI BAIRAGI : It is only ate the country. On such an occasion, I would some poet or saint and not a political leader not put forth army demands before the Home who will come for the release of a language. Minister. I would like to put forth just two or three points before him. The biggest issue The criminals, these days are better today is that of a gap between the people and equipped than the police. The criminals are the Government. It appears that you do adopting modern techniques, but you are communicate with the people, but you do not still traditional. How can your police deal make introspections; your language is not the with the criminals ? The police forces should one in which you can make intros be modernised, pection. At the time of convassing for votes during the elections, we speak in After the elections, you have taken a bold Gujarati, Marathi, Teluga, Assamese Bangla, step by passing the anti-defection law. Simi Konnad, Malayalam and various other langu larly, a legislation for bringing about reforms ages of the country, but immediately after the in the electoral laws should also be brought. formation of Government, English is used People will applaud you for that. everywhere. It is then that the people feel the difference between the ruler and the ruled. Mr. Jaipal has levelled a number of char There is communication, but no introspection. ges against us in the context of elections and 357 Demands for Cronfs CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 358 {General) 1965-86 {General) 1985-86 the use of black money therein. Incidentally, fui to you for giving me an opportunity to at present he is just sitting towards our side. I speak. 1 support the Demands for Grants of do not wait to level charges against any one, the Ministry of Home Affairs. but I would like to say one thing. I do not want to say what happens in Andhra Pradesh Sir, due to the successful policy of the Karnataka or Bengai. I want to say four Government of India, sufficient security is lines only. If possible, he may note them in being provided to the Harijans in the his diary:- country. During the period of 2 1/2 years of misrule of the Janata Party, atrocities “Sheeshe krt bodan It kar niklo nahin were committed on Harijans and the law and rahon mein ’ order situation had become the worst. Now Government have set the matters right and Hole he in chhipc patlhar logon ki provided security to the Harijans, for which nigahon mein Government deserve congratulations. You have been listening to me while sitting by So far as the solution of the Punjab and the side of our senior parliamentarian, Prof. Assam problem is conc?rned, the policy of Ranga So I may add Government to in this regard is praise worthy. Government want to solve these Nosib ki sajish se agah raho jauan problems on the basis of fraternity and Behtar hai si mat jao hamraz ki bahon friendship and in a non-violent manner. But ine'n.” there are certain violent elements in the country who are being supported by foreign I would like to make a submission to powers. Mr. Shankar Rao Chavan. You have done a lot for us. Please do a little more. I belong There powers want to disrupt the law lo Neemuch — Mandsaur—Javra. C.R.P has and order situation here and dismember the the largest base at Neemuch C.R.P. Day country. Such elements have created dis parade used to bs held there every year on the order and an atmosphere of fear in the 31st October. It has now become a black country at the behest of those powers. No day because Smt. Indira Gandhi was assas rapproachment should be made with sinated on that day. Now no C.R.P. Day them. The need of the hour is to crush them parade will be held there on that day because with an iron hand, as they have become of this reason. For some years, the people more daring. there had a superstition that a Minister, who went there to take the salute, would love his Mr. Chairman, Sir, the police plays a ministership. In this way, C,R.P. Day major role in providing protection to the celeberations have been discontinued. We society, but our police set-up as also our shall not be able to celeberate it. We shall Police Act are very old. The police set-up is be grateful to you if you fix 1st November the same as was there before independence. for this purpose, because 1st Novemberis Today, our society is marching ahead. In Madhya Pradesh Day. On that day, Madhya our progressive society, the police force is Pradesh was created. On that day, some proving a hindrance rather than a help in good work used to be done on account of controlling the law and order situation. C.R.P. Day. If 1st November is fixed for 18.00 fars, this purpose, good works will continue to be done at Neemuch. Generally I see that whenever there is a clash between the rich and the poor. It has In the end* 1 would like to say one thing been found that they always favour the rich. more. You are sitting under this huge done. Hence, there is need to revamp the police M ay God bless you with so much glory that machinery. people may remember you after Sardar Patel in the context of the Punjab and Assam So far as the judiciary is concerned, problems. justice is not available there also, because it is delayed inordinately and it is very SHIU RAM BHAGAT PASWAN costly. It is very difficult for the poor and (Roaert): Mr. Chairman, Sir, 1 am grate- the helpless widow who has lost her husband 359 Demands for Grants APRIL 2, 1985 Demands for Grants 360 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 to get justice (interruptions) During the them even now. I would, therefore, request Jama rule, several Harijans were roasted that you should give directions to the alive. There are widows and destitute child District Officers that the persons who have ren who want justice. A widow, whose hus got the documents of land, be given the band has been murdered is finding it very possestion of land within 10 days. difficult to get justice. Now Government have made provision for providing legal aid So far as maximum wage is concerned, and with this arrangement a lot of protection attention should be paid towards this also. has been provided to them, but it is not It was a very good step that old age pension available to the poor. We find that provi of Rs. 30 was paid to the helpless, the old sion of legal aid has been made at District people, the poor and the handicapped people level, State level and at the Central level, in Bihar, but it has been reduced to only 2 but at District level, the judges not have per cent which is causing great resentment enough time to provide legal aid. The same among the poor. 1 would request the Home is the situation in the States and at the Minister to pay old age pension also like centre. The legal aid system is, therefore not the Freedom Fighters pension. It was a satisfactory. The amount is also very meagre very commandable work which was under and that is also not available. I would there taken since independence. ( Interruptions ) fore, urge Government to provide the maxi mum amount for litigation expenses under Regarding the political pension also 1 the legal aid system for the protections of would like to say that there are certain the Harijans. It is also not clear what would freedom fighters who sacrified everything be the form of legal aid ; whether free in the struggle for freedom. Their proper services of an advocate would be provided, ties were looted, their sons were murdered or a certain amount would be paid or the and they themselves had to suffer, but they the expenses of witnessess would be paid. are not getting the pension. They should 1 do not know what the form of the Legal get the pension. ( Interruptions ) Women Aid would be. Government should come judges should be appointed to enquire into forward to check the atrocities on the the cases of dowry-atrocities and rape etc. Harijans which are being perpetrated on Reservation in appointments and promotions them these days. Government have made should not only continue but should be considerable efforts to raise their standard increased. of living. A large number of people have been lifted above the poverty line through [English] ■ the 20-point Programme, but there are certain people in the society who are not MR. CHAIRMAN : Nothing goes on happy with their progress. The . Harijans record. Please sit down. have been given the documents of the land available under the Land Ceiling Act, but (Inter r up t io ns).** they have not been given the possession of the land. Wherever they . have been given [Translation] the possession of land and they go to till the land, they are challaned with the help of the police by calling them Naxalites. You SHRI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN : With should find out especially in Bihar the basic these words, I conclude. reasons for arresting the people as Naxalites. The antecendents of the persons who are [English] taken into custody by the Police should be verified. I would like to refer to my own con DR. GOLAM YAZDANI (Raiganj) : stituency. In Baratpur, Bharatpur Madanpur Mr. Chairman. Sir, I support the Demands and Madhuban, the poor have been given the for Grants of the Ministry of Home Affairs. land documents, but possession has not been given to them. I have written to the Chief In this connection 1 would like to draw Minister and to the Home Ministry also the attention of the Hon. Home Minister to that many persons, who have been given the the very miserable condition of the people documents of the land, are challaned by who have been ignored so far. What I mean branding them as Naxalites and are sent to prison. They have got the documents with **Not recorded. 381 Demands for Grants CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 382 {General) 1985-86 • (General) 1985-86 to say is about the miserable condition of O.Cs. are there, but they are not so helpful. the people along the border of Bangladesh They cannot also come to their help. So, it is and West Bengal. The Bangladesh-West the responsibility of the Central Government Bengal border is a very very long border. to see that something is done in this regard I am going to give you my observations . because Bangladesh has been created out of concerning a very small areas. West Dinaj- India. It is not the fault of the people on the pur, I mean the West Dinajpur-Bangladesh Indian side of the border, they are not at border starting from Chopra to Hili includ fault. So, why should they suffer the evils ing Goalpukur, Karandigi, Raiganj, Ahme- of partitition ? You should help them, but dabad, Kaliaganj, Kumarganj and Tapan. you are not helping. Throughout the whole If you try to ascertain the conditions of border there is smuggling. the people along that border you will find that on the Indian side people are in great From Bindol right up to Hili border, all difficulties and nobody is there to listen to the BSF posts and Thanas are affected. their difficulties. Many times I have drawn Smuggling is going on. Dacoity is going on. your attention to this, but I have been given Cattle lifting is going on. Once an the stereotyped answer that everything is enquiry was ordered by the Central O.K.. along the border. But everything is Government and the matter went to the not O.K. because on tne Indian side, two or State Government and they instituted an three miles deep, the Bangladesh people enquiry. They sent a D.S.P. to Raiganj to come inside during the dark night, that is, investigate whether my information was when there is no moon. Almost every night correct. The D.S.P. was sent to find out they come inside the Indian border, about 50, whether there was actually smuggling or 60, 70 or 100 in number. They might have dacoity in the Bindol border. The D.S.P got some arrangement with the BSF this side visited Raiganj and he sent two inspectors and that side, they come deep into the to see whether the information was correct Indian territory and commit dacoities and or not. Those two inspectors contacted take away the cattle —50 or 100 cattle at a those people who actually conducted smug time. If you make an inquiry, you will find gling and brought those very people to the that people over there are crying, but no D.S.P. and said, everything is O.K. So, I body is listening to them. They pass sleep was given the reply, The reply was, “We less nights in terror. Here I shaii bring their have investigated the whole matter and one miserable condition to your notice because D.S.P. went there and everything is O.K.” I have toured those areas where there are So, I request the Hon. Minister to kindly BSF camps 8 to 9 miles apart and they enquire into the matter. It is not that I am cannot patrol both ways. The roads arc not telling you. You please enquire on your good. So in the dark night they cannot own not through the officers of the West patrol efficiently so that through the weak Bengal Government because we have seen points the Bangladesh people come in and how they have conducted the enquiry. You there are agents on the Indian side who should have your own set of officers to guide those people. So, the only remedy is enquire, visit the spot and find out the that there should be efficient patrolling on actual state of affairs. Then only you can the border. If you want to do efficient pat help the people. ■ rolling you must have sufficient number of personnel in the BSF and moreover, this Along the other part of the border, they time you have to establish certain CRF have different kinds of stories and miseries. camps in between BSF camps. Some time So, you have to pay some attention on the back CRP forces were posted in between the border also. That is my request to you, BSF camps and there was much improve ment in the situation. So, I request you to [Translation] kindly have an inquiry into the matter regar ding this border and try to help the people SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHURIA by establishing CRP camps in between the (Jhabua) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, I rise to BSF camps. Alternatively, I ask you to support the demands of the Ministry of please employ the military for one month Home Ministry. After making a close study and see that result of it. _ If you don’t do of the reports brought out by the Home that and if you don’t give attention to those Ministry from time to time, I found that a people, they go on suffering and suffering. considerable amount has been speitt on the 363 Demands for Grants APRIL 2, 1985 Demands for Grants 364 ( I do not think that it will be correct on Sir, 1 have a very little time at my dispo the part of any Hon. Member to say that sal. But I would like to touch upon one or because the officers happened to be from a two important issues. One is about the particular area, the schemes have been loca Centre-State relations to which some Hon. ted there, either a hydel scheme or an irri Members made a reference here. They also gation scheme. I have laid the foundation stated that a large number of Bills which, at stone for a scheme for Police in Meghalaya. the stage of introduction, have to have the These are schemes which have nothing to do approval of the Government of India or in with the officers. They give their recommen certain cases, after they have been passed by dations and ultimately the Stale Chief both the Houses of Legislature, there they are Ministers are there in N.E.C. They take sent here for the assent of the President. stock of everything, try to locate : in each There is a considerable delay for the clear region whatever institutions they can possibly ance of this Bills which are being sent here. do and 1 do not think that this kind of 3 have personally looked into that and I am charge can be made that one or two States still discussing the issues with sonic of the only have got the benefit of the constitution administrative Ministry and ultimately it of the N.E.C. I do not think that will be comes to th e , Home Ministry only for corrcct to say. I do not propose to dilate disposal. When any Bill comes io the any more on that. I can give all the details Home Ministry it is being referred to which establishes that the benefits have gone the administrative Ministry. We have to ail the States. But certainly if the scheme to get their comments and if there is any is bigger, the benefit will be bigger. But the difference of opinion between the State 375 Demands for Giants APRIL 2, 1985 Demands for Grants 376 (General) 1985-86 (General} 1985-86 Government and the administrative Ministry, opportunity of going round and discussing we have to write again to the State Govern matters with them and they propose to visit ment and see that unanimity is being arrived some more States. They got representations at. But I will look into this. My feeling is from about 242 parties; they are discussing that we have minimised this and it should the issue in great length and we hope they not take more than 3 to 4 months for the will be able to finalise the report within the clearance. For the clearance of any of the Bills shortest possible time. On matters which which are being sent either for President’s are of serious nature and where unnecessary approval at the stage of introduction or after controversies have been raised in certain the Bills have been passed. 1 must bring it to quarters, we hope that they will be able to the notice of the Houss that there have been take an objective view, and as other State State Governments who have been issuing Governments are referring matters of Centre- ordinances after ordinances. One ordinance State relations to Sarkaria Commission, is issued; without replacing the same with a similar kind of attitude will be taken by our regular Bill, they issue another ordinance; and friends from Punjab, who have heen harping then the third ordinance, which is never con on the Anandpur Sahib resolution. They verted into a regular Bill, in such cases if have been talking in context or out of con matters are being delayed, I think, you should text about the Anandpur Sahib resolution. I be able to* appreciate that this kind of flagrant had also an opportunity to see the interview constitution'll breach will n o t' be encouraged. which Sant Longowal gave to a newspaper Wc will request the State Governments con from Punjab; I have also seen his interview cerned that this kind of activity should be in two of the magazines, Sunday maga put a stop to and if they convert the ordi zine, I think, and one another magazine. It is nances into regular Bills; it should not be very unfortunate that a man of Sant difficult for the Central Government to con Longowal’s status should give this kind of sider what they have to say in the matter. interview in an atmosphere where we are trying our level best to find an amicable Secondly, we are seriously considering solution to this very complex and complicated about the utility and usefulness of the Zonal problem. At least my feeling is that we Councils, in which Chief Ministers of respect should give him some more margin. I would ive areas are being specially invited, inter not come to a conclusion that it is a lost state matters are being discussed there; case. I would like to give him some more matters of regional importance are also dis time so that he has his own personal objec cussed in the Zonal Councils. The agenda is tive assessment of the situation, try to find out being prepared in such a manner that all the how best he will be able to get out of the points which create some kind of ill feeling triangle in which he himself is. 1 do not see between different States can be discussed that he is in a very comfortable position. immediately, and given the goodwill on the part of everybody, I do not find any justi I have made the position clear. I would fication as to wiiy this kind of atmosphere like to reiterate that we will have talks with and animosity and confrontation between them, try to persuade them. But there can different States should not be avoided. We be no compromise on the question of will try to increase the frequency of meetings national integrity. In matters of national of the Zonal Councils, have the Sub Commi integrity there would be no compromise. ttees constituted if th;y are interested in going deep into the matter and thereafter we will 1 think it was Mr. Jaipal Reddy or some be able to take final decisions, and it is our other Hon. Member who said that the Prime firm hope that all the State Governments will Minister was totally opposed to Anandpur try to implement the decisions, in the spirit Sahib Resolution and now he has changed his and manner in which those decisions have stand and he is now saying that he is oppos been taken. ing only the necessionist part of it and the rest of it* if it is regarding Centre-State Th^n, the Sarkaria Com mission have been relations, can be referred to the Sarkaria appointed anJ they have circulated a very Commission. 1 do not think there is any long questionnaire of about 10? questions. thing wrong in this. And this is the con | They got the response from about half a sistent stand that we have been taking. Just dozen or 7-8 States only. They had an as other States_ are doing, if the Anandpur 377 Demands for Grants CHAITRA 12, 1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 31% (General) 1985-86 . (General) 1985-86 Sahib Resolution has matters regarding which you have referred now. I have asked Centre-State relations, they should be able for the information and as soon ai the in Demands for Grants, 1985-86 in respect of the Ministry of Home Affairs voted by the Lok Sabha. No. of Name of Amount of Demand for Grant Amount of Demand for Demand Demand on account voted by the House Grant voted by the House on 25th March, 1985 Revenue Capital Revenue Capital Rs. Rs. Rs. Rs. MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS 46. Ministry of Home 1.25.85.000 ... 6,29,28,000 ... Affairs 47. Cabinet 1.23.54.000 ... 6,17,71,000 ... 48. Police 97,45,71,000 6.40.32.000 4,87,28,60,000 32,01,63,000 49. Other Administrative 46,65,97,000 6.99.91.000 2,33,29,85,000 34,99,59,000 and General Services SO. Rehabilitation 25,30,56,000 1.29.33.000 1,26,52,84,000 6,43,66,000 51. Other Expenditure of 65,66,39,000 36.69.76.000 3,05,09,95,000 1,50,28,78,000 the Ministry of Home Affairs 52. Delhi 67.67.51.000 45.82.19.000 3,38,37,58,000 2,29,10,99,000 53. Chandigarh 11.19.44.000 6.24.58.000 55,97,24,000 17,64,59,000 54. Andaman and Nicobar 10,63,06,000 6.18.60.000 53,15,34,000 30.93,02,000 islands Demands for Gnrttfs APRIL 2, I9J5 Demands far Grants 384 (General) J985-&6 (General) 1985-86 35. Dfcdra and Nagar 1,37,62,000 98,33,000 *,83,13*000 4,91,65,000 HaVeli ' 56. Lakshadweep 3,14,81,000 35,52,000 15,74,05.00& 2,77,59,000 MR. CHAIRMAN : The H o h k now of the Clock en Monday, April 8JH5>1 adjourns to se-assemblc on Monday, the Chaitta 18,1907 (Saka) 8th April, 19&5 at 11 A.M. » .0 9 krs. ______ The Lok Sabha then a(Jju*med till Eleven