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Unrevised Transcript of Evidence Taken Before the Committee on Olympic and Paralympic Legacy OLYMPIC and PARALYMPIC LEGACY WEDNE Unrevised transcript of evidence taken before The Committee on Olympic and Paralympic Legacy Inquiry on OLYMPIC AND PARALYMPIC LEGACY Evidence Session No.5 Heard in Public Questions 75 - 92 WEDNESDAY 26 JUNE 2013 10.30 am Witnesses: Robert Sullivan, James Munro, David Meli and Richard Caborn USE OF THE TRANSCRIPT 1. This is an uncorrected transcript of evidence taken in public and webcast on www.parliamentlive.tv. 2. Any public use of, or reference to, the contents should make clear that neither Members nor witnesses have had the opportunity to correct the record. If in doubt as to the propriety of using the transcript, please contact the Clerk of the Committee. 3. Members and witnesses are asked to send corrections to the Clerk of the Committee within 7 days of receipt. 1 Members present: Lord Harris of Haringey (Chairman) Lord Addington Earl of Arran Lord Bates Lord Best Baroness Billingham Lord Faulkner of Worcester Baroness King of Bow Lord Moynihan Lord Stoneham of Droxford Lord Wigley ________________ Witnesses Robert Sullivan, Head of Corporate Affairs, Football Association, James Munro, Communications Director, Lawn Tennis Association, David Meli, Chief Executive, England Handball Association, and Richard Caborn, Chairman, Amateur Boxing Association of England Q75 The Chairman: I think Mr Meli’s train was late, but he is negotiating security as we speak, so he should be with us shortly. I think none the less we should begin. Can I welcome the other three witnesses? This is a public session and is being webcast. You will be sent copies of the uncorrected transcript so you can correct any things that are not down correctly, or suggest corrections. In the meantime the uncorrected transcript will appear on the website, so that is an incentive to respond quickly with requests for corrections. We will make a start while Mr Meli joins us, and I wanted to ask each of you in turn: how did the four weeks of Olympic and Paralympic Games last year affect your sport and did the Games alter public perceptions or affect levels of public interest in your sport? Who is going first? 2 James Munro: Chairman, thank you for the opportunity to come and talk to the Committee. 2012 was, for British tennis, the greatest year for our sport, certainly in my lifetime. I think the Olympic and Paralympic Games played an enormous part in that success. We saw Olympic and Paralympic medals from the likes of Andy Murray—a gold medal. There was a silver medal for Andy Murray when he was playing in the mixed doubles with Laura Robson, and it is great to see both of them doing so well at the Championships at Wimbledon this week. We also had success at the Paralympic Games as well, with Andy Lapthorne and Peter Norfolk winning a silver medal, and Lucy Shuker and Jordanne Whiley winning a bronze medal in the wheelchair tennis. So there was great success on court, but I think the greatest opportunity for us was the platform it gave us to promote and reach out to new audiences. During those events we had something like 35,000 people come to either the events or some of the activities we were hosting in places like Victoria Park near the Olympic site, Eton Manor on the Olympic site, Hyde Park and a range of other live sites, all coming to try tennis. It was a great opportunity to showcase the sport, and to celebrate some of the success of that sport, but also to reach out to new audiences. The Chairman: Has that continued? James Munro: Yes, the output of that has been that we have seen more children playing tennis, and recent participation figures from the DCMS have, I think, backed that up. We also have a very successful schools programme, which was part of our plans to develop more opportunities for children to play. We now have a schools programme in more than 16,000 schools in this country, and it is providing teacher training, free resources and equipment for those children. There are some real opportunities that have seen more children playing, and some great opportunities that have seen more people with a disability and more adults playing tennis as well. Q76 The Chairman: Shall we move on and ask Mr Sullivan to comment? 3 Robert Sullivan: Thank you, Chairman. Thank you to the Committee as well for inviting us here to give evidence today. English football has a unique relationship with the Olympics, as I am sure many of you will be aware. Lord Moynihan and I shared several meetings about trying to facilitate the participation of a British football team in the Olympics. We at the English FA were pleased to be able to achieve that. We had both men’s and women’s teams that we administrated, alongside the BOA, to compete. For a four-week period I think it was constructive for football that they were not, shall we say, the biggest show in town in a major sporting context in this country. There was a great deal that we gained and valued from that, the main focus of which was undoubtedly on both the performance and profile of women’s football in this country. The Team GB women’s team did exceptionally well; they got to the quarter-finals. The seminal moment was a victory against Brazil at Wembley, which 70,000 people came to and enjoyed—a very different type of crowd for a match at Wembley. It was a really special Wembley occasion, as it happens. We had about 80,000 there for the final of the women’s game. It was a real step-change in the exposure for women’s football in this country, and that was probably for us the greatest immediate value that came out of the Olympic Games. That has really kicked on, and specifically it has kicked on with support from broadcasters, especially the BBC and BT Sport, for women’s football, which has really gone up a gear. We hope now, through this season, through the BBC’s extended coverage of the European Championship this year, that the women’s game will continue to grow and flourish, and we can build around that high-profile success that the Games provided for the women’s game. Baroness King of Bow: Just briefly on that point, you mentioned how it was a step-change for women’s football—the incredible crowds. I was one of those mesmerised by the performance. The British women did do better than the men, thank the Lord. I just 4 wonder, in the light of that, can you confirm that a British women’s team will be going to Rio? Robert Sullivan: I cannot confirm that, because they have to qualify, so technically one of the home nations would have to qualify for a place in the tournament. If that were to happen, the FA has committed to look at the matter specifically around the women’s team, separate from the men’s team. So I cannot confirm it today, but what I can say is that subject to qualification we are prepared to look at the possibility, because we do recognise very much the value in a women’s GB football team. Lord Faulkner of Worcester: I was going to ask you this later, but I will ask you now. What about the men’s team? What commitment are you making about a GB Olympic team? Robert Sullivan: There is currently no commitment on it. We made it clear at the time, and again Lord Moynihan will remember the very difficult conversations, that this was a specific, unique one-off occasion, with the Games being in London and within Britain. That was something that was understood very clearly by us, FIFA, the IOC and the home associations. Lord Wigley: Could I take it that, if there was any indication whatsoever from FIFA that the home nations would lose their status in the international football world by having a GB team in Brazil, there would not be a GB team in Brazil for football? Robert Sullivan: To be very clear, FIFA have never made any of those types of insinuations. They were very clear for 2012 that they supported the unique status of a Team GB for that Olympic Games, and on that basis we believe it would be wrong to pursue it further for 2016. Lord Wigley: Can I just say, Chair, that I think everybody, certainly in Wales, is perfectly happy with their players playing in a GB team, provided that it does not undermine us having 5 our own team for the other competitions, and I am sure if that is the case in Wales, it is even more so for Scotland. Q77 The Chairman: Back on track: Richard Caborn? Richard Caborn: Boxing did incredibly well, I think, for a couple of reasons. One was that it was the first time that women had been in the Olympics boxing, and you could not have scripted it better, because Nicola Adams, who as we all know is an incredible personality in her own right and a great athlete as well, won the very first gold medal. I think a number of people were concerned about how having women boxers would be welcomed or perceived. I think it was welcomed, it got fantastic coverage and the results since then have been remarkable in terms of the number of young women and girls now into boxing in all its stages. The other thing that happened as well, alongside that, was that boxing was also flourishing as an exercise, and that is still growing, and growing at a tremendous rate.
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