Volume IV Friday No. 3 16th June, 1967

PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES

DEWAN RA'AYAT (HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES)

OFFICIAL REPORT

FOURTH SESSION OF THE SECOND PARLIAMENT OF

CONTENTS

ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS [Col. 617] PERSIDANGAN (USUL) [Col. 647] MOTION: The Yang di-Pertuan Agong's Speech-Address of Thanks [Col. 647]

Ol-CHETAK DI-JABATAN CHETAK KERAJAAN OLEH THOR DENG CHONG, A.M.N., PENCHETAK KERAJAAN 1968

MALAYSIA

DEWAN RA'AYAT (HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES) Official Report

Fourth Session of the Second Dewan Ra'ayat

Friday, lfJth June, 1967 The House met at half-past nine o'clock a.m.

PRESENT: The Honourable Mr Speaker, DATO' CHIK MOHAMED YusuF BIN SHEIKH ABDUL RAHMAN, s.P.M.P., J.P., DATO' Bendahara, Perak. the Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs, Y.T.M. PuTRA AL-HAJ, K.O.M. (Kuala ). the Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Defence, Minister of National and Rural Development and Acting Minister of Home Affairs, TUN HAJI ABDUL RAZAK BIN DATO' HUSSAIN, S.M.N. (Pekan). the Minister of Finance, TUN , S.S.M., J.P. (Melaka Tengah). the Minister of Works, Posts and Telecommunications, TUN v. T. SAMBANTHAN, S.S.M., P.M.N. (Sungai Siput). the Minister of Transport, TAN SRI HAJI SARDON BIN HAJI JUBIR, P.M.N. (Pontian Utara). the Minister of Education, TUAN MOHAMED KHIR JoHARI (Kedah Tengah). the Minister of Health, TUAN BAHAMAN BIN SAMSUDIN (Kuala Pilah). the Minister of Commerce and Industry, DR LIM SWEE AUN, J.P. (Larut Selatan). the Minister for Welfare Services, TUAN HAJI ABDUL HAMID KHAN BIN HAJI SAKHAWAT ALI KHAN, J.M.N., J.P. (Batang Padang). the Minister for Sarawak Affairs, TAN SRI TEMENGGONG JUGAH ANAK BARIENG, P.M.N., P.D.K. (Sarawak). the Minister of Labour, Tuan V. MANICKAVASAGAM, J.M.N., P.J.K. (). the Minister of Information and Broadcasting and Minister of Culture, Youth and Sports, TUAN SENU BIN ABDUL RAHMAN (Kubang Pasu Barat). the Minister of Agriculture and Co-operatives, TUAN HAJI MOHD. GHAZALI BIN HAJI JAWI (Ulu Perak). the Minister of Lands and Mines and Minister of Justice, TUAN HAJJ ABDUL-RAHMAN BIN Y A'KUB (Sarawak). 611 16 JUNE 1967 612

The Honourable the Assistant Minister of Culture, Youth and Sports, ENGKU MUHSEIN BIN ABDUL KADIR. J.M.N., S.M.T., P.J.K. (Trengganu Tengah). the Assistant Mirtister of Education. TUAN LEE SIOK YEW, A.M,N., P.J.K. (Sepang). the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Health, TuAN IBRAHIM BIN ABDUL RAHMAN, J.M.N. (Seberang Tengah). the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance, TUAN ALI BIN HAJI AHMAD (Pontian Selatan). the Parliamentary Secretary to the Deputy Prime Minister, TUAN CHEN WING SUM (Damansara). TUAN ABDUL GHANI BIN ISHAK, A.M.N. (Melaka Utara). TuAN ABDUL KARIM BIN ABU, A.M.N. (Melaka Selatan). TUAN HAJI ABDUL RASHID BIN HAJI JAIS (Sabah). TUAN ABDUL RAZAK BIN HAJI HussIN (Lipis). TUAN ABDUL SAMAD BIN GUL AHMAD MIANJI (Pasir Mas Hulu). DATO' ABDULLAH BIN ABDULRAHMAN, S.M.T., Dato' Bijaya di-Raja (Kuala Trengganu Selatan). Y.A.M. TUNKU ABDULLAH IBNI AL-MARHUM TUANKU ABDUL RAHMAN, P.P.T. (Rawang). TuAN HAJJ ABDULLAH BIN HAJI MOHD. SALLEH, A.M;N., S.M.J .• P.I.s. (Segamat Utara). TuAN HAJI ABU BAKAR. BIN HAMZAH, J.P. (Bachok). .. TUAN HAJJ AHMAD BIN ABDULLAH, S.M.K. (Kelantan Hilir)• TUAN AHMAD BIN ARSHAD, A.M.N. (Muar Utara). TUAN HAJJ AHMAD BIN SA'AID, J.P. (Seberang Utara). O.K.K. DATU ALIUDDIN BIN DATU HARUN, P.D.K. (Sabah). DR AWANG BIN HASSAN, S.M.J. (Muar Selatan). TuAN Aziz BIN ISHAK (Muar Dalam). TUAN JONATHAN BANGAU ANAK RENANG, A.B.S. (Sarawak). PENGARAH BANYANG ANAK ]ANTING, P.B.S. (Sarawak). TUAN CHAN CHONG WEN. A.M.N. (Kluang Selatan). TUAN CHAN SIANG SUN, A.M.N., P.J.K. (Bentong). TUAN CHEW BIOW C'HuoN, J.P. (Broas). TuAN CHIA CHIN SHIN, A.B.S. (Sarawak). TuAN FRANCIS CHIA NYUK TONG (Sabah). TUAN CHIN FOON (Ulu Kinta). TUAN D. A. DAGO ANAK RANDAN alias DAGOK ANAK RANDEN (Sarawak). TuAN c. v. DEVAN NAIR (Bungsar). TuAN EDWIN ANAK TANGKUN (Sarawak). ,TUAN SYED EsA BIN ALWEE, J.M.N .• S.M.J., P.I.S. (Batu Pahat Dalam). DATIN HAJJAH FATIMAH BINTI HAJI ABDUL MAJID (Johor Bahru Timor). ., TAN SRI FATIMAH BINTI HAJI HASHIM, P.M.N . (Jitra-Padang Terap). 613 16 JUNE 1967 614 The Honourable TUAN s. FAZUL RAHMAN, A.D.K. (Sabah). DATU GANIE GILONG, P.D.K., J.P. (Sabah). TuAN GANINO BIN JANGKAT (Sabah). TUAN GEH CHONG KEAT, K.M.N. ( Utara). TUAN HAn HAMZAH BIN ALANG, A.M.N., P.J.K. (Kapar). TUAN HANAFI BIN MOHD. YUNUS, A.M.N., J.P. (Kulim Utara). TuAN HANAFIAH BIN HUSSAIN, A.M.N. (Jerai). TUAN HARUN BIN ABDULLAH, A.M.N., J.P. (Baling). " WAN HASSAN BIN WAN DAUD (Tumpat). TUAN STANLEY Ho NGUN KHIU, A.D.K. (Sabah). TUAN HUSSEIN BIN To' MUDA HASSAN, A.M.N. (Raub). DATO' HAJI HUSSEIN BIN MOHD. NOORDIN, D.P.M.P., A.M.N., P.J.K. (Parit). TUAN HUSSEIN BIN SULAIMAN (Ulu Kelantan). TUAN HAJI HUSSAIN RAHIMI BIN HAJI SAMAN, J.P. (Kota Bharu Hulu). TUAN IKHwAN ZAINI, K.M.N. (Sarawak). TUAN ISMAIL BIN IDRIS (Penang Selatan). PENGHULU JINGGUT ANAK ATTAN, IC.M.N., Q.M.C., A.B.S. (Sarawak). TUAN KADAM ANAK KIAi (Sarawak). TUAN KAM WOON WAH, J.P. (Sitiawan). TUAN THOMAS KANA, K.M.N. (Sarawak). " TuAN KHOO PENG LOONG (Sarawak). TUAN EDMUND LANGGU ANAK SAGA (Sarawak). TUAN LEE SECK FUN, K.M.N. (Tanjong Malim). TuAN AMADEUS MATHEW LEONG, A.D.K., J.P. (Sabah). DATO' LING BENG Srnw, P.N.B.s. (Sarawak). DR MAHATHIR BIN MOHAMED (Kota Star Selatan). TUAN T. MAHIMA SINGH, J.M.N., J.P. (Port Dickson). TUAN c. JOHN ONDU MAJAKIL (Sabah). DATO' DR HAJI MEGAT KHAS, D.P.M.P., J.P., P.J.K. (Kuala Kangsar). TUAN MOHD. ARIF SALLEH, A.D.K. (Sabah). DATO' HAJI MOHAMED ASRI BIN HAJI MUDA, S.P.M.K. (Pasir Puteh). ORANG TUA MOHAMMAD DARA BIN LANGPAD (Sabah). TUAN MOHD. DAUD BIN ABDUL SAMAD (Besut). TUAN MOHAMED IDRIS BIN MATSIL, J.M.N., P.J.K., J.P. (Jelebu-Jempol). TUAN MoHD. TAHIR BIN ABDUL MAJID, s.M.s., P.J.K. (Kuala Langat). TUAN HAJI MOHAMED YUSOF BIN MAHMUD, A.M.N. (Temerloh). TuAN MOHD. ZAHIR BIN HAJI ISMAIL, J.M.N. (Sungei Patani). 615 16 JUNE 1967 616

The Honourable WAN MoKHTAR BIN AHMAD (Kemaman). TUAN HAJI MOKHTAR BIN HAJI ISMAIL (Perlis Selatan). TUAN MUHAMMAD FAKHRUDDIN BIN HAJI ABDULLAH " (Pasir Mas Hilir). TUAN HAJI MUHAMMAD Su'AUT BIN HAJI MuHD. TAHIR, ·A.B.s. (Sarawak). DATO' HAJI MusTAPHA BIN HAJ1 ABDUL JABAR, D.P.M.s., A.M.N., J.P. (Sabak Bemam). TUAN MUSTAPHA BIN AHMAD (Tanah Merah). TAN SRI NIK AHMAD KAMIL, D.K., S.P.M.K., S.J.M.K., P.M.N., P.Y.G.P., Dato' Sri Setia Raja (Kota Bharu Hilir). TUAN NG FAH YAM (Batu Gajah). TUAN (Sarawak). TUAN HAJI OTHMAN BIN ABDULLAH (Hilir Perak). TUAN OTHMAN BIN ABDULLAH, A.M.N. (Perlis Utara). TUAN QUEK KAI DONG, J.P. (Seremban Timor). TUAN HAJI RAHMAT BIN HAJI DAUD, A.M.N. " (Johor Bahru Barat). TUAN RAMU BIN OMAR (Krian Darat). TuAN HAJI REDZA BIN HAJI MOHD. SAID, P.J.K., J.P. (Rembau-Tampin). RAJA ROME BIN RAJA MA'AMOR, P.J.K., J.P. (Kuala ). TUAN SANDOM ANAK NYUAK (Sarawak). TUAN SEAH TENG NGIAB, P.I.S. (Muar Pantai). TUAN D. R. SEENIVASAGAM (Ipoh). DATO' s. P. SEENIVASAGAM, D.P.M.P., P.M.P., J.P. (Menglembu). TUAN SIM BOON LIANG, A.B.S. (Sarawak). TUAN Smw LooNG HIN, P.J.K. (Seremban Barat). TUAN SNAWI BIN ISMAIL, P.J.K. (Seberang Selatan). TUAN SNG CHIN Joo (Sarawak). TUAN SbH AH TECK (Batu Pahat). TUAN SULEIMAN BIN ALI (Dungun). TUAN SULEIMAN BIN HAJI TAIB (Krian Laut). PENGIRAN TAHIR PETRA (Sabah). TUAN TAJUDDIN BIN ALI, P.J.K. (Larut Utara). TUAN TAI KUAN YANG, A.M.N. (Kulim-Bandar Bharu). TUAN TAMA WENG TINGGANG w AN (Sarawak). DR TAN CHEE KHOON (Batu). TUAN TAN CHENG BEE, A.M.N., J.P. (Bagan). TUAN TAN TOH HONG (Bukit Bintang). " TUAN TAN TSAK Yu (Sarawak). TUAN TIAH ENG BEE (Kluang Utara). TUAN TOH THEAM HOCK (Kampar). .TUAN YEH PAO TzE (Sabah). TUAN STEPHEN YONG KUET TZE (Sarawak). " TuAN HAJI ZAKARIA BIN HAJI MOHD. TAIB, P.J.K. (Langat). 617 16 JUNE 1967 618

ABSENT: The Honourable the Minister for Local Government and Housing, TUAN KHAW KAI-BOH, P.J.K. (Ulu Selangor). the Assistant Minister without Portfolio, TUAN HAn KHALID BIN AwANG OSMAN (Kota Star Utara). the Assistant Minister of National and Rural Development, TUAN SULAIMAN BIN BULON, P.J.K. (Bagan Datoh). the Assistant Minister of Finance, DR NG KAM PoH, J.P. (Telok Anson). the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Labour, TUAN , K.M.N. (Segamat Selatan). WAN ABDUL KADIR BIN ISMAIL, P.P.T. (Kuala Trengganu Utara). TUAN ABDUL RAHMAN BIN HAJI TALIB, P.J.K. (Kuantan). WAN ABDUL RAHMAN BIN DATU , A.B.S. (Sarawak). PUAN AJIBAH BINTI ABOL (Sarawak). TUAN CHAN SEONG YOON (Setapak). TuN DR ISMAIL BIN DATO' HAJJ ABDUL RAHMAN, S.S.M., P.M.N. (Johor Tirnor). TAN SRI SYED JA'AFAR BIN HASAN ALBAR, P.M.N. (Johor Tenggara). DR LIM CHONG Eu (Tanjong). TUAN LIM KEAN SIEW (Dato Kramat). TUAN LIM PEE HUNG, P.J.K. (Alor Star). TUAN PETER Lo Su YIN (Sabah). TUAN JOSEPH DAVID MANJAJI (Sabah). TuN DATU MUSTAPHA BIN DATU HARUN, S.M.N., P.D.K. (Sabah). TUAN TAN KEE GAK (Bandar Melaka).

PRAYERS janjian itu saperti mana yang di-sebut oleh Perdana Menteri dalam satu (Mr Speaker in the Chair) kenyataan, ada-kah Kerajaan akan mengambil tindakan terhadap Kera­ PERTANYAAN2 BAGI jaan Singapura. JAWAB MULUT Perdana Menteri: Tuan Yang di­ ORAL ANSWERS TO Pertua, berkenaan dengan soal ini ada di-dalam pindaan Perlemba­ QUESTIONS gaan dahulu daripada percheraian PEMECHATAN 427 ORANG POLIS Singapura daripada Malaysia ia-itu OLEH KERAJAAN SINGAPURA berkenaan dengan sekshen 19 (B) yang berkata barang siapa, pada hari 1. Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdullah percheraian itu, yang bekerja di­ (Kelantan Hilir) bertanya kapada Per­ dalam Kerajaan kita dalam pejabat2 dana Menteri (a) ada-kah benar Singapura dengan kerana percheraian bahawa pemechatan 427 orang polis itu, tidak di-sifatkan orang itu pega­ oleh Kerajaan Singapura baharu2 ini wai Kerajaan Singapura. Bagitu juga melanggar sharat2 perjanjian per­ dalam sekshen 10 (2) yang mengata­ pisahan di-antara Singapura dengan kan orang2 Malaysia yang bekerja di­ Malaysia; (b) oleh kerana perbuatan Singapura dalam masa sa-belum itu bertentangan dengan sharat2 per- percheraian itu di-sifatkan sa-bagai 619 16 JUNE 1967 620 pegawai2 Kerajaan Singapura semen­ Singapura memechat orang ini dengan tara. Di-dalam itu Singapura ada tidak lebeh dahulu J>enneshuarat keluarkan satu pula pindaan kapada dengan Kerajaan Malaysia, ini ada­ Perlembagaan Singapura yang ber­ lah sa-bagai satu perbuatan yang bunyi "orang ini di-sifatkan sa-bagai unilateral yang mereka ini chuba orang yang memegang jawatan dengan sendiri-nya menjalankan sementara di-bawah Kerajaan Singa­ dengan tidak mengambil berat di­ pura dan apabila President Singapura atas kedudokan Kerajaan Malaysia. berasa hendak tamatkan pekerjaan mereka, maka Kerajaan Singapura Perdana Menteri: Sa-benar-nya kita berkuasa menamatkan jawatan2 itu." tidak berkuasa mengganggu kuasa Maka dengan kerana itu-lah President Kerajaan Singapura dengan kerana itu Singapura menjalankan kuasa-nya kita menjalankan satu masaalah yang dalam pindaan ini yang di-beri ber­ baik dan memberikan jawatan2 ka­ henti kapada pegawai Polis di­ pada orang2 itu. Singapura itu. Jadi ini Kerajaan Singapura telah pun merdeka, jadi Tuan Mohd. Daud bin Abdul Samad kita tidak berhak hendak membuat (Besot): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, soalan apa2 di-atas orang2 yang kena buang tambahan. Dapat-kah Yang Teramat itu. Kita telah memberikan jawatan di­ Mulia menerangkan dalam 427 orang sini dan kebanyakan-nya mereka itu itu berapa orang-kah orang2 Melayu telah menerima jawatan itu, hanya sa­ dan orang2 yang bukan Melayu. bilangan yang kechil yang tidak menerima dan menchari kerja yang Perdana Menteri: Sa ya tidak dapat. lain. hendak memberi jawapan yang tepat, tetapi yang saya tahu kebanyakan-lah Tuan Baji Ahmad bin Abdullah: orang Melayu, ada juga bangsa lain, Soalan tambahan, Tuan Yang di-' Pertua. Mengikut keterangan Yang orang keturunan lain, ia-itu orang China Teramat Mulia bahasa mengikut dan India. sharat bagi perpisahan di-antara Singapura dengan Kerajaan Malaysia ORGANISATION OF REGIONAL ini bahawa mengikut undang2 yang CO-OPERATION IN soum apa kata-nya nombor-bilangan 19 (B) ASIA dan juga sekshen 10 bahagian yang kedua bahawa orang2 itu di­ 2. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair asks the dalam perkhidmatan Kerajaan Singa­ Minister of Foreign Affairs to make pura sa-lepas daripada perpisahan a statement on the views of the Singapura dengan Malaysia, di­ Malaysian Government with regard anggapkan sa-bagai kakitangan Kera­ to (i) principles of regional co­ jaan Singapura, sementara. Patut-nya operation in South Asia, (ii) the apabila . orang2 ini akan di-singkir, possible replacement of ASA by a new mahu-lah lebeh dahulu Kerajaan organisation and the aims of any such Singapura bermeshuarat dengan Kera­ new organisation, and (iii) what jaan Malaysia. Dan itu-lah juga countries in South Asia, Malaysia kelmarin, sa-malam ini, di-dalam would expect to become members of jawapan bagi soalan 14, Yang any new regional organisations. Teramat Mulia Timbalan Perdana Menteri juga menjawab bahawasa The Prime Minister: Malaysia has mengatakan bahawasa Kerajaan Singa­ always indicated our firm belief in pura tidak sadikit pun bermeshuarat regional co-operation and for that dengan Kerajaan Malaysia di-dalam purpose Malaysia was one of the soal ini. sponsors of this ASA Organisation, which we hope will work for the Sunggoh pun, sa-bagaimana yang common good of the member coun­ di-terangkan oleh Yang Teramat tries-to name them : Thailand, Mulia, bahawasa satu pindaan telah Philippines and Malaysia. We believe di-adakan dalam Perlembagaan Singa­ that through regional co-operation so pura yang membolehkan Kerajaan many things can be done and large 621 16 JUNE 1967 622 measures of goodwill and friendship The Prime Minister: That is my could be achieved as a result of it. hope. I have the same feeling as the Now, the Honourable Member has Honourable Member, because Mal­ asked whether the ASA should be philindo had failed and any organisa­ replaced or whether there is intention tion based on religious or racial to replace ASA by a new organisation. grounds would fail too. There has been talk of this new organisation and I believe the objec­ Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr Speaker, tive of this new organisation is the Sir, is the Honourable Prime Minister same as ASA itself. I will welcome aware that when the Minister of any fresh suggestion or any new Defence of India came here, Mr C. M. organisation working for the common Chagla, he profounded the idea of a good of the member countries. Some Council of Asia based on much the countries feel that they want to join same concept of ASA but cutting ASA, but as it has been started some across political and ideological lines. time back by the three countries, they Will the Honourable Prime Minister want another regional organisation. tell us whether this country supports Well, if its aim is the same and it is the idea of a Council of Asia and intended to work for the common will work actively for it? good of the countries in this region I The Pr.ime Minister: As the question see no objection to it. But, of course, I on that particular subject will follow feel strongly that this region of Asia soon, if the Honourable Member will cannot support two organisations with be patient I will satisfy him with my the same aim and the same objective. answers. However, as I have indicated earlier on, I would not want to say the worse Tuan Mustapha bin Ahmad (Tanah might happen with regard to it. We Merah): Soalan tambahan, Tuan Yang will join in the hope that the organisa­ di-Pertua. Dari jawapan Yang Ter­ tion will achieve the aim which the amat Mulia Perdana Menteri maka sa­ sponsors had in mind, and for that olah2 pehak kita tidak keberatan sa­ reason this new organisation has been kira-nya satu bentok pertubohan baru worked out and when we have had yang lebeh besar daripada ASA dapat time to study it, we will certainly con­ di-bentok dengan tujuan yang saperti sider the matter again. ASA juga. Tetapi, siapa-kah yang membawa fikiran ASA besar ini men­ With regard to the third part of the jadi perbinchangan hangat di-negara question, that is, what countries in kita sa-belah sini? South Asia would expect to become Mr Speaker: Itu soal lain. members of any new regional organisation, to that I cannot give my FREE LEGAL AID BUREAU answer now, because some countries might object and none of them has J. Toan C. V. Devan Nair asks the given a definite indication that they are Minister of Justice whether the going to join. However, I think there Cabinet has taken a decision as to will be a few countries, two or three whether to establish a free legal aid bureau to assist the poor and needy in countries-perhaps two-will be legal proceedings and representations, willing to come into this new and if so, to state the decision; if not, organisation. to explain the reason for the inordinate delay in coming to a decision. Dr Tan Chee Kboon (Batu): Mr Speaker, Sir, will the Honourable The Minister of Justice (Tuan Haji Prime Minister assure this House that Abdul-Rahman bin Ya'kub): Mr Spea­ this enlarged ASA will not be based ker, Sir, early this year the Committee, on religious and racial grounds, and appointed to inquire into the need and that there will not be a revival of the possibility for the establishment of a old now defunct concept of Mal­ Legal Aid Service, submitted its report philindo. to the Government. The report is now 623 16 JUNE 1967 624 being studied by the Treasury on the Dr Tan Chee Khoon: I hope the question of the financial aspect of this Minister of Justice will go back and scheme, look up the records of this House since Tuan C. v. Devan Nair: Mr Spea­ 1964. Then, he will find the true state ker, Sir, may we ask whether the study of affairs. by the Treasury of this document will Toan Haji Abdul-Rahmag bin take a long time or short time? Ya'kub: That is only part of the story, Tuan Haji Abdul-Rahman bin Mr Speaker, Sir. I have got the full Ya'kub: As the Honourable Member record of the Committee Meetings here knows, the Treasury is fully occupied which shows that the whole question as always, under-staffed as it is, I hope went back right up to 1960. he will sympathise with the Minister of Mr Speaker: But he did say 1946. Finance, who has been spending many (Laughter). sleepless nights, since he became Finance Minister, in order to ensure SUSPENSION OF GENERAL the financial stability of this country. PURPOSES COMMITTEE I have been assured by the Minister of Finance that the decision would be 4. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Prime taken very soon by his Ministry. Minister, is he aware that the Establish­ ment Office, Malaysia, sent a note to Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr Speaker, the Staff Side of the Whitley Council Sir, the solicitude on the part of the saying "that all General Purposes Com­ Minister for Justice for his colleague, mittee will be suspended until further the Minister of Finance, is very touch­ notice", that this note has spread con­ ing to us on this side of the House. Mr sternation in the ranks of CUEPACS, Speaker, Sir, is the Honourable Minis­ and that the 72 affiliates of CUEPACS, ter of Justice aware that as nearly as have already distributed strike ballots 11- years ago I made an adjournment to their 80,000 members, and if so, to speech in this House for free Legal Aid state the action he proposes to take in Service to aid the poor people in this this connection. country, who cannot afford to pay for the services of lawyers? That would The Prime Minister: Does the seem that this is not a new matter. This Honourable Member, Mr Speaker, Sir, matter has been brought to the atten­ wish to pursue with this question, tion of the Government in this House­ because he obviously has read what l think it would be almost two years appeared in the press this morning­ since it was first broached. If so, will "lndustrial action planned by civil ser­ he try to expedite the matter with his vants off"? If he wants an answer, I colleague in the Cabinet sitting in front will certainly give him the answer. of him. There has been quite a lot of mis­ Tun Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker, Sir, understanding over this particular since the name of my office is being matter. In actual fact I was made to bandied about, I think it might be understand that notice was given to appropriate for me to intervene. I can CUEPACS to suspend all these claims assure the last Honourable Member and so on, because the Salaries Com­ who spoke that my colleague, the mission was completing its report, and Minister of Justice, is as anxious as he it is obvious to all if fresh claims keep is to get this matter settled. I can also on corning in, it would have the effect assure him that we will try our best to of delaying the report of the Salaries Commission. Therefore they wrote to expedite a resolution of this issue. CUEPACS to suggest that they should Tuan Haji Abdul-Rahman bin not send in any claim. I think they put Ya'kub: Sir, the Member for Batu it right some time back by publishing appears to create an impression that this matter in the paper which reads: this question was first mooted by the "The Establishment Office, Malaysia, Honourable Member himself. That is would like to clarify certain points in not so. a press statement which appeared in a 625 16 JUNE 1967 626 local newspaper on the 23rd of this assurance you want me to offer? I for­ month on the subject which we got now (Laughter). freezed." Obviously. there has been r.ome misunderstanding on the whole Dr Tan Chee Khoon: The F.E.O. issue. It is true that the Establishment who is really a very responsible officer, Office had issued a note to the Staff should be a little more careful in writ­ Side of the Whitley Council that all the ing such letters of importance to General Purposes Committee meetings CUEPACS, otherwise all these per­ will be suspended until further notice. gadohan, kesusahan, will arise again. What the Establishment Office meant The Prime Minister: I give that to convey by this note was that the assurance. General Purposes Committee will not deal with claims, which will involve EFFORTS BY THE PRIME MINIS­ revision of pay and conditions of ser­ TER OF CEYLON. TO BRING vice, as the Government had decided PARTIES IN THE VIETNAM WAR that these claims should be held in TO CONFERENCE TABLE abeyance until the Salaries Commission s. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the completes its work. The General Pur­ Minister of Foreign Affairs to give poses Committee will, however, meet details of the efforts by the Ceylon. to consider matters which do not Prime Minister to bring all parties in involve the revision of pay and terms the Vietnam War to the conference and conditions of service. In fact, the table and the reason he had for next meeting of the General Purposes describing these efforts as most praise­ Committee has been fixed on the 15th worthy. June, 1967. As I have said just now, the whole thing has been settled, and The Prime Minister: There was no these people have called off the strike, direct contact between the Prime and I can assure the Honourable Minister of Ceylon and the parties in Member that members of CUEPACS Vietnam. He only expressed a desire are not now unduly worried. that the parties should come to terms by having a meeting among themselves. Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr Speaker, The way this was reported, I agree, it Sir, is the Honourable Prime Minister sounded as if he had sent in a request aware that from his reply he would to the parties fighting in Vietnam to seem to imply that the misunderstand­ come to a round table. He was pre­ ing lies with CUEPACS, whereas in pared to offer Ceylon as the venue for effect from the letter that he has read such discussion if it takes place, but out, the fault really lies with the F.E.O. when I went to Ceylon-I discussed in not putting matters very clearly to this matter with him-it turned out CUEPACS. Will the Honourable the that he had not written to any of them Prime Minister assure this House that yet. It was purely a proposal on his the Principal Establishment Officer will part without really communicating with be a little more careful in handling the parties concerned and he thought such matters of importance with that Ceylon being neutral and is taking CUEPACS, otherwise he will have a non-partisan stand, might perhaps be CUEPACS up in arms again. able to offer their services, in order to bring peace in this area. They are will­ The Prime Minister: It seems to be ing to do that, but up to now I do not his favourite phrase "up in arms". I know whether they have done anything. don't know what he intends to convey whether the Prime Minister has done by that. Sir, when I read the letter, it anything, because I am sure if he had is obvious that I did not give at all, or done it, he would have given me some even attempt to give, the impression sort of indication through his High that the mistake is on the CUEPACS Commissioner. That has not been done. side. In fact, by reading the letter I admitted that the mistake is on the Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Is the Government side and I can give him Honourable Prime Minister aware the assurance. But, what was the that in Tokyo he is quoted to have 627 16 JUNE 1967 628 stated that the main cause of the The Prime Minister: Naturally, that conflict in Vietnam, or the war in is in the mind of everybody. Therefore, Vietnam, has been the Communist I do not have to say what he said, countries, in particular, the Chinese, because it won't be right for me to go and that if the Chinese withdrew their and tell this House something said by support and that if the Vietcong with­ the Prime Minister of a foreign country. drew north of the 17th Parallel, the war in Vietnam would possibly end PAKATAN KERJASAMA DI- tomorrow. Following on the same line, ANTARA NEGARA2 ASIA is the Honourable Prime Minister not 6. Tuan Haji Abu Dakar bin Bamzah aware that if the Americans were to bertanya kapada Menteri Luar Negeri stop unilaterally bombing North Viet­ sa-jauh mana kemajuan yang telah nam, the war in Vietnam could also be Kerajaan jalankan di-dalam rancha­ de-escalated and the chances of its ngan-nya untok menubohkan satu being brought to the conference table pakatan kerjasama di-antara negara2 from the battle-field will be greater? Asia sa-bagaimana yang telah di­ The Prime Minister: It is a matter anjorkan oleh Tuan Chagla dari India of opinion, but his question has nothing yang telah melawat Malaysia baharu2 to do with what I did or what I said. ini; dan nyatakan apa-kah dasar2 He asked me about what the Prime pakatan ini. Minister of Ceylon intended to do. The Prime Minister: lni·lah soal Now he is trying to put me under berkenaan dengan chadangan Tuan cross-examination, charge me with Chagla Menteri Luar India. Dengan having started this war in Vietnam. chadangan ini yang sa-benar-nya dia Well, I am not guilty (Laughter). tidak mengeluarkan apa2 bukti yang Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr Speaker, tepat yang boleh di-terima oleh pehak Sir, if I may word it a little differently. Malaysia. Jadi chuma-nya chadangan Will the Honourable the Prime Minis­ bagaimana kita kata, itu chadangan ter tell us whether in his discussion atas angin. with the Honourable the Prime Minis­ Jadi dengan kerana itu saya tidak ter of Ceylon he has stated to his menurunkan tandatangan atau menulis opposite member in Ceylon the steps dalam apa2 paper, chuma mendengar that this country has taken to de­ chadangan-nya sahaja. Kerana dia escalate the war in Vietnam? sendiri kata, apabila dia telah dapat chadangan-nya itu di-tetapkan, dia The Prime Minister: One thing that akan beri tahu kelak. Maka itu sahaja I admit, Mr Speaker, Sir-that is, I dapat saya jawab dalam hal ini. have always taken the stand that we are not neutral in this war. Therefore, Tuan Baji Abu Dakar bin Bamzah: it is not fair for me to put forward any Tuan Yang di-Pertua, soalan tambahan. suggestion, when the person is honestly Apa-kah tindakan atau pun sa­ and sincerely desirous of bringing an suatu langkah yang di-buat oleh pehak end to this war. So, I just did not say Kerajaan kita sa-bagai menyambut anything except to listen to what he atau pun mengulas kenyataan itu, oleh had to say. Whatever little I could kerana, bagaimana yang di-terangkan offer, it was just made with my heart oleh Yang Teramat Mulia sa-kejap ini, and my intention to help him bring dia buat satu chadangan di-atas angin about this meeting between the parties di-dalam negara kita sendiri. J adi concerned. That is about all I contri­ kalau satu chadangan yang tidak buted to this discussion on Vietnam. bertanggong-jawab di-buat di-dalam Dr Tan Chee Khoon: In this dis­ sa-buah negara yang lain, ini-lah cussion with the Prime Minister of menimbulkan satu sangkaan tidak baik Ceylon, did he at any time bring up terhadap negara kita, ia-itu menjadi the question of the bombing of North tempat perbinchangan kosong. Oleh Vietnam by the U.S.A. and that if the itu apa-kah tindakan, yang di~buat U.S.A. did stop the bombing, the pros· oleh Kerajaan kita untok menentukan pects of peace will be greater. yang ~a-benar-nya chadangan itu? 629 16 JUNE 1967 630 Yang kedua, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, tentn-lah mereka tidak terima. Mereka mengikut sa-tengah2 akhbar yang saya negeri yang besar, kita ini yang kechil. bacha, ada-kah benar bahawa Persa­ Jadi mereka tidak pernah minta kita tuan yang di-chadangkan oleh Tuan champor tangan, kita pun tidak Chagla ini merupakan asas pasaran champor tangan langsong hat ini. bersama sa-bagaimana yang di-buat oleh negara2 enam buah di-Eropah­ Toan Haji Abo Bakar bin Hamzah: ia-itu European Common Market. Oleh Soalan tambahan. Saya sedar bahawa kerana, apa yang di-chadangkan oleh negeri kita ini negeri yang kechil, tetapi Tuan Chagla itu mempunyai sifat2 dan dapat-kah Perdana Menteri kita atau dasar2 yang sama. Boleh-kah Perdana Menteri Luar Negeri kita memberi satu Menteri kita atau pun Menteri Luar ketegasan bahawa ada-kah kerana nega­ Negeri kita menerangkan bahawa ra kita ini kechil, sa-mata2 kechil dari konsep itu boleh di-katakan sama segi sukatan geography-nya, maka kita dengan European Common Market? tidak sanggup membuat satu kebaikan sa-bagaimana Perdana Menteri kita The Prime Minister: Saya tidak dapat sendiri tahu apa yang di-usahakan oleh hendak menjawab hal itu, kerana dia Ceylon untok menyelesaikan perang sendiri berkata ini chuma-nya chada­ Vietnam itu yang terlibat kuasa2 besar. ngan dia, satu chadangan hendak Jadi dapat-kah Perdana Menteri kita berpakat; chadangan dia hendak ber­ atas nama Menteri Luar Negeri, mem­ dagang sama (trade) dan chadangan beri jaminan kapada Dewan ini, itu, semua-nya hendak bekerjasama­ bahawa oleh sebab negara kita ini lah sa-kira-nya boleh. Tetapi ini 2 kechil geography-nya, maka kita tidak banyak-lah chadangan hendak beker­ dapat membuat kerja2 yang berfaedah jasama semua, kita bagi pehak kita saperti itu. di-sini terima sahaja, tetapi biar-lah chadangan itu tepat, baharu dapat kita The Prime Minister: Saya langsong jawab satu2 perkara dengan tepat. Ini tidak berani, Tuan Speaker. Kita buat saya hendak jawab apa di-sini. Chuma­ satu chadangan, orang ini terima, nya dia kata chadangan itu bagini. orang itu marah. Jadi macham mana Bagus-lah saya kata. Sa-takat itu saya hendak buat chadangan. Jadi dalam boleh kata. meshuarat Commonwealth pun di­ sebut dengan terus terang oleh kedua2 USAHA2 MALAYSIA MENCHARI buah negara, tidak bagi siapa pun Ahli PERDAMAIAN ANTARA INDIA Commonwealth champor tangan di­ DENGAN PAKISTAN atas hat mereka kedua buah negeri itu. 7. Toan Haji Abo Bakar bin Hamzah bertanya kapada Menteri Luar Negeri HUBONGAN DIPLOMATIK sa-jauh mana-kah usaha2 yang telah ANTARA MALAYSIA di-jalankan oleh Malaysia untok men­ DENGAN INDONESIA jadi pelopor perdamaian di-antara India dengan Pakistan; dan jika belum 8. Toan Haji Abo Bakar bin Hamzah di-lakukan lagi, ada-kah Malaysia bertanya kapada Menteri Luar Negeri sedang berusaha melakukan-nya. apa-kah perkara2 baharu yang telah timbul di-dalam masaalah menyambong The Prime Minister: Ini satu per­ sa-mula hubongan diplomatik di­ kara yang besar-soal ini. Bagaimana, antara Malaysia dengan Indonesia yang sa-jauh mana-kah usaha2 yang telah telah menyebabkan pehak Indonesia di-jalankan oleh Malaysia untok men­ menyuarakan pendapat-nya bahawa jadi pelopor perdamaian di-antara hubongan itu belum dapat di-pulehkan India dan Pakistan-ini tidak dapat­ melainkan sa-telah di-adakan pilehan lah saya hendak menjawab. Chuma raya bebas di-negeri Sarawak; dan jika kita ini yang dudok di-dalam negeri pilehan raya Sarawak itu menjadi satu Asia, bukan Malaysia sahaja mana2 masaalah dalam hubongan tersebut, negeri pun, suka-lah soal dua buah nyatakan sama ada Kerajaan akan negeri yang besar ini dapat berdamai. memperchepatkan kerja pilehan raya Tetapi apa buah fikiran kita keluar itu supaya perhubongan diplomatik 631 16 JUNE 1967 632 kita dengan Indonesia akan di-sambong forces in the Far East is still under sa-mula dengan sa-chepat mungkin. discussion and has not been finalised. It is, therefore, not known how many The Prime Minister: Tuan Speaker. civilian employees will be affected. soal perhubongan diplomatik di­ antara Malaysia dengan Indonesia The Government, Sir, would not be ada-lah terpulang kapada kedua2 buah in a position to give them alternative negeri untok bersetuju bersama2• Jadi employment in the Ministry of Defence bagi pehak Malaysia kita tidak ada or units of the Armed Forces for the apa2 masaalah, terpulang-lah semua­ obvious reasons that we will not have nya kapada Indonesia. Apabila Indo­ the available vacant appointments. nesia setuju hendak adakan diplomatik They are, however, free to submit relation bagi pehak Malaysia, kita applications when there are suitable dengan suka hati-nya menerimakan vacancies. However. the Government sahaja dan mengadakan diplomatik will do everything possible to assist relation. in obtaining alternative employment 2 should they be retrenched by the Masa ini tidak ada apa langkah British Government. yang di-ambil oleh Kerajaan Indonesia, jadi dengan kerana itu kita tidak buat Dr Tan Chee Khoon: In the Govern­ apa2 juga. ment's assurance to give these about­ Toan Haji Abu Bakar bin Hamzab: to-be retrenched civilian employees, Soalan tambahan. Saya menguchapkan will the Honourable Minister give an terima kaseh ka-atas usaha2 itu, tetapi assurance to this House that this will yang menjadi tujuan pertanyaan di­ include finding a place in many of the sini ia-lah nampak-nya di-dalam F.L.D.A. schemes that are being akhbar2, Indonesia menekankan supaya opened up, because not all the civilian masaalah pilehan raya di-Sarawak itu officers are white-collared workers­ menjadi satu faktor di-dalam perlaksa­ many of them are workers who use naan perhubongan ini. Jadi ini-lah their hands and, therefore, will be yang saya hendak tanya. Sa-jauh mana eminently qualified for a place in the perkara itu terlibat dalam masaalah various F.L.D.A. schemes. perhubongan ini? Ada pun masaalah Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Sir, I say rasa baik sangka itu saya perchaya-lah that we will assist them to find suitable sudah sampai masa-nya. Masaalah employment and this will include pilehan raya di-Sarawak itu, ada-kah employment in all fields of Government menjadi satu sebab masaalah (problem). activities, including F.L.D.A. and other Tuan Speaker: Saya rasa soalan ini schemes. sudah di-jawab dengan chukup. Tidak­ lah panjang lagi di-belakang lagi, di­ 10. Mr Speaker: Question No. 10, I chelah2 semua sa-kali saya ingat itu believe, has been answered. sudah lebeh daripada soalan ini. PEMBENAAN BALAI2 POLIS DI­ SABAK BERNAM DAN SUNGAI RETRENCHMENT OF CIVIL BES AR EMPLOYEES ON WITHDRAWAL OF BRITISH ARMED FORCES 11. Dato' Haji Mustapha bin Haji Abdul Jabar bertanya kapada Menteri 9. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair (Bungsar) Hal Ehwal Dalam Negeri apa-kah asks the Minister of Defence how many kedudokan yang sa-benar-nya berhu­ civilian employees will be affected by bong dengan ranchangan Kerajaan the British defence withdrawal, and hendak membena bangunan2 baharu whether the Government has any plans untok menggantikan bangunan2 Balai to provide alternative employment to Polis yang sudah burok dan uzor the retrenched civilian employees. di-Sabak Bernam dan Sungai Besar, The Deputy Prime Minister (Tun oleh kerana sa-takat ini tiada suatu Haji Abdul Razak): Sir, the British apa langkah pun yang telah di-jalankan Plan for the running down of their bagi mendirikan bangunan2 tersebut. 633 16 JUNE 1967 634 Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Tuan Yang LOANS BY FOREIGN COUNTRIES di-Pertua, ranchangan hendak membena TO MALAYSIA FOR DEVELOP- bangunan2 Polis di-bawah Ranchangan MENT-1967 Malaysia Yang Pertama ini termasok­ lah: 13. Dato' Haji Mustapha bin Haji Abdul Jabar asks the Minister of Finance to (a) Balai Polis Berchorak Bandar state the countries that have extended dan Quarters 1 kelas "F" dan 6 loans to Malaysia in 1967. to imple­ kelas "G" di-1Sungai Besar; dan ment her Development programme (b) sa-buah Balai Polis Kechil di­ and the amount given by each. Sabak Bernam. Tun Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker. Sir. Bangunan2 ini belum-lah dapat di­ I would like to explain that. generally. dirikan kerana usaha2 pembelian tanah the process of obtaining loans and di-kedua2 tempat ini belum lagi selesai. credits from foreign countries involves Perkara ini di-jangka akan di-selesai­ three stages. Firstly. offers of loans kan sa-belum awal tahun hadapan dan on general lines of credit are made saya harap sa-lepas daripada itu dapat­ by the foreign countries concerned, lah di-ikhtiarkan peruntokan wang stating only the maximum amounts that bagi memulakan pembenaan bangunan2 they are prepared to extend to Malaysia. itu. In this respect. the offers of approxi­ mately $550 million in 1966 to cover MOGOK DUDOK SA-MASA the five-year requirements of the First PILEHAN RAYA DI-SABAD Malaysia Plan by members of the Con­ sultative Group for Malaysia still stand. 12. Tuan Ramli bin Omar bertanya The countries involved are as follows : kapada Menteri Hal Ehwal Dalam Belgium, $18 million, Canada, $20 Negeri sama ada beliau sedar bahawa million, France, $60 million, Japan sa-masa pilehan raya Sabah baharu2 $150 million, Netherlands, $4 million, ini, satu kejadian mogok dudok telah and United States $300 million. Some berlaku di-sa-buah kedai makan oleh countries such as the United Kingdom kerana tuan kedai itu ia-lah sa-orang offer lines of credit without fixing the penyokong salah satu daripada parti maximum amounts that they are pre­ politik di-sana; jika sedar, nyatakan pared to lend to Malaysia. The actual ada-kah sa-siapa di-antara orang2 yang amounts that will be utilized will mogok dudok itu terdiri daripada depend on the purchases actually made ra'ayat warganegara Malaysia dan apa­ from these countries. kah tindakan yang akan di-ambil Secondly, some countries require that terhadap mereka. the offers of loans and lines of credit should be put on a formal basis, that Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Tuan Yang is, by means of general agreements di-Pertua, saya ada-lah mendengar between Malaysia and these countries, tentang mogok dudok bersama2 atau wherein the general terms and condi­ sit-in-strike itu. Nampak-nya kejadian tions of the offers, especially in relation itu di-sebabkan oleh perchakapan yang to interest rates, insurance premia, di-buat oleh orang empunya restoran repayment periods, etc., are laid down. itu terhadap sa-orang chalun pilehan Thirdly, the actual utilization of the raya di-Sabah. Dari apa yang di­ lqans and general lines of credit, is the ketahw semua mereka yang mengambil last stage in the process of obtaining bahagian dalam mogok itu ia-lah foreign financing. The actual utilization warganegara Malaysia. Orang2 yang depends on the number of projects or mogok itu tidak membuat apa2 hanya­ purchases that have been awarded to lah minum kopi dan bacha surat­ the various countries in accordance khabar dan tidak ada membuat apa2 with the Government's policy of inter­ kesalahan dengan sebab itu-lah tinda­ national tendering. I must point out at kan daripada Polis tidak di-fikirkan this juncture that Malaysia receives niustahak. loans and credits not only from foreign 635 16 JUNE 1967 636 countries on a government to govern­ mentation" which is merely a device ment basis but also from private employed by businessmen with sub· sources. stantial financial resources, and which From my foregoing explanation, it goes into the legal motions of dividing can be seen that by and large offers of rubber estates into smallholdings solely loans and lines of credits are not made for the purpose of attracting the annually. However, for the purpose of additional grants available for small­ illustration, in the first half of 1967, holder replanting. This, I agree, is a Malaysia signed three loan agreements, different matter, but I believe that this two with the United States Government loophole has already been plugged by and one with a Swedish bank. The two measures taken by the Ministry of loan agreements concluded with the Commerce and Industry. United States Government provide Malaysia with a maximum amount of MEMBAIKI JALAN DARI KUALA $57 million f9r the purpose of deve­ BARAM KA-LUTONG (SARAWAK) lopment. The loan agreement signed 15. Tuan Tama Weng Tinggang Wan with the Swedish bank, amounting to a bertanya kapada Menteri Kerja Raya, maximum of $30 million, provides Pos dan Talikom sama ada beliau sedar credit for the purchase of telecom­ jalan dari Kuala Baram ka-Lutong, munications equipment for the deve­ yang sa-jauh 17 batu itu, burok kea­ lopment of the Malaysian telecommu­ daan-nya; jika sedar, bila-kah tindakan nications system. These loan agree­ untok membaiki-nya akan di-jalankan. ments represent the third stage of the process to which I referred earlier. The Minister of Works, Posts and Telecommunications (Tun V. T. Sam­ ESTABLISHMENT OF CORPORA- bantban): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, di­ TION TO PURCHASE ESTATES bawah Ranchangan Pembangunan Negeri Sarawak, peruntokan sa-banyak 14. Tunku Abdullah asks the Minister $1,515.000 ada di-chadangkan untok of Finance whether he would consider memperbaiki jalan Kuala Baram ka­ setting up a Corporation, financed by Lutong. Pekerjaan ini di-jangka akan Government in the first instance, to dapat di-mulakan dalam tahun 1968. purchase large estates which are intended to be sold, and eventually to Tuan Tama Weng Tinggang Wan: issue shares to the public, so that these Terima kaseh (Tepok). estates may not be fragmented and may be owned by our own Malaysians. TRAFFIC ALONG JAMBATAN TUNKU ABDUL RAHMAN Tun Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker, Sir, PUTRA,BUTTERWORTH I do not quite understand the objective which the Honourable Member has in 16. Tuan Tan Cheng Bee asks the mind. If his objective is that these Minister of Works, Posts and Telecom­ rubber estates should be owned by munications whether he is aware that Malaysians, and the wording of this the traffic along Jambatan Tunku Abdul question in fact indicates that this is Rahman Putra at Butterworth appears his objective, then fragmentation is one even now to be congested, and does it way of achieving this objective without not appear to him that as and when the any cost to the Government. It is, Deep Sea Wharves comes into full therefore, not clear why he should urge operation in the not too distant future, the Government to set up a corporation the expected flow of traffic along the to do the very thing which Malaysians bridge may become so congested as to are doing for themselves without create a serious traffic problem, and if so, whether he would take necessary Government assistance. I, of course, steps now to meet such eventuality. appreciate that a difference must be made between fragmentation which Tun V. T. Sambanthan: Mr Spea­ results in genuine smallholders becom­ ker, Sir, I am not aware that the traffic ing owners of rubber smallholdings, along Jambatan Tunku Abdul Rahman and what one might call "bogus frag- appears to be congested, or that it might 637 16 JUNE 1967 638 be congested when the Deep Sea motorkar2 dan daripada $3.50 kapada Wharves come into full operation. $1.50 bagi bas. From a recent traffic count, it was found that an average of 5,370 vehicles use Ton V. T. Sambanthan: Tuan Yang this road. The capacity along the bridge di-Pertua, perkara ini sedang di­ is 11,000 vehicles per day. With the timbangkan. completion of the wharves, the maxi­ MEMAJUKAN BAHASA MELAYU mum tonnage expected per year is in the MENJADI BAHASA ANTARA- region of 1 million tons of which 40 per BANGSA cent is expected to move by rail, and the balance by road. This will mean that 19. Dato' Haji Mustapha bin Haji there will be additional vehicles to Abdul Jabar bertanya kapada Menteri convey 600,000 tons per annum along Pelajaran (a) benar-kah atau tidak the bridge. With the gross weight of bahawa ada sa-tengah2 Universiti di­ vehicles permissible on this road being seberang laut yang memberikan kursus 18 tons, and assuming that the tare load pelajaran bahasa Melayu dengan giat­ will be 12 tons, there would, therefore, nya dan jika benar apa-kah Universiti2 be an additional 50,000 vehicles per itu; (b) apa-kah galakan2, jika ada, annum, or an average of 137 vehicles yang telah di-berikan oleh Kerajaan per day using the bridge. Even allowing kita terhadap yayasan2 pengajian ter­ for peak periods of ten times the average sebut, bagi memajukan bahasa Melayu per year, the number of additional hingga menjadi suatu bahasa antara­ vehicles will not be more than 1.370 per bangsa. day. Added to the number of vehicles using the bridge at present, there would Toan Mohamed Khir Johari: Tuan then be about 6,740 vehicles per day. Yang di-Pertua, (a) Ada beberapa buah Since the capacity of the bridge is universiti asing di-United Kingdom dan Australia yang mempunyai jabatan2 11.000 vehicles per day, there should 2 not, therefore, be any congestion along bahasa asing dan di-antara bahasa the bridge. asing itu termasok-lah bahasa Melayu; (b) Kerajaan sedia menimbangkan PERTUKARAN NAMA SHARIKAT untok memberi apa sahaja bantuan PENERBANG MALAYSIA/ yang boleh jika bantuan itu di-minta. SINGAPURA Untok ma'aluman Ahli Yang Ber­ hormat itu, Kementerian saya telah 17. Toan Randi bin Omar bertanya menghantar sa-orang daripada Pegawai2 kapada Menteri Pengangkutan, meman­ Pelajaran ka-Universiti Hankuk, Korea, dang kapada berita2 akhbar yang untok menolong mengelolakan Jabatan menyatakan bahawa Brunei telah mem­ Pengajian Melayu di-sana. Kita juga beli saham2 dalam Sharikat Pener­ telah menerima permohonan daripada bangan Malaysia-Singapura nyatakan sa-buah Universiti di-India Selatan dan sama ada beliau berchadang hendak perkara ini sekarang sedang di-uruskan menukarkan nama Sharikat Pener­ melalui surat menyurat. Sa-lain dari­ bangan Malaysia-Singapura itu. pada itu Kerajaan kita juga telah meng­ hantar beberapa buah buku2 dalam Menteri Pelajaran (Tuan Mohamed bahasa kebangsaan kapada beberapa Khir Johari): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, buah universiti asing di-luar negeri. tidak ada chadangan bagi menukar nama M.S.A. yang ada sekarang ini. NATIONAL TYPE SECONDARY SCHOOL FOR NORTHERN BAYARAN LALULINTAS DI- DIS1RICT OF PROVINCE JAMBATAN, MUAR WELLESLEY 18. Tuan Abdul Karim bin Abu ber­ 20. Tuan Tan Cheng Bee (Bagan) asks tanya kapada Menteri Kerja Raya, Pos the Minister of Education, as there are dan Talikom sama ada Kerajaan ber­ National Type Secondary Schools chadang mengurangkan kadar bayaran (Chinese) in Central and Southern lalulintas sekarang di-Jambatan Muar, District of Province Wellesley, whether daripada $1.50 kapada 50 sen bagi the Government will consider also 639 16 JUNE 1967 640 building a National Type Secondary lkang ada-lah di-tadbirkan oleh Majlis School for Northern District of Province Daerah Baram. Kakitangan sekolah Wellesley at Butterworth similar, if not ini ada-lah di-uruskan oleh Majlis larger, than the one in Bukit Mertajam tersebut dengan persetujuan Jabatan to take in boys from all Chinese Pelajaran, Sarawak. Tidak-lah di­ Primary Schools in Province Wellesley fahami mengapa kenyataan itu menya­ North to save the large number of boys takan bahawa guru2 tidak di-beri from travelling to Penang from Bukit pertukaran saperti rakan2 mereka di­ Mertajam for their secondary educa­ sekol~h2 lain. Satu pertukaran telah tion. pun di-buat dalam bulan Januari 1966. Jika guru2 sendiri hendak bertukar Tuan Mohamed Khir Johari: Mr mereka mesti-lah menchari kekosongan Speaker, Sir, a new secondary school terlebeh dahulu dalam kawasan yang has been approved for construction at mereka hendak mengajar dan sa-lepas Butterworth to meet the needs of the itu memohon kapada Majlis Daerah children in the area. untok bertukar. PROVISION OF MORE SCHOOLS Waiau bagaimana pun, Jabatan Pe­ IN BUTTERWORTH AREA lajaran akan menyiasat mengenai keadaan2 yang menyebabkan guru2 21. Tuan Tan Cheng Bee asks the memohon pertukaran itu. Minister of Education, in view of the vast developments of Mak Mandin Industrial area and the growing impor­ MENGGANTI MEJA DAN tance of Butterworth as a result of BANGKU SEKOLAH which a good number of Housing 23. Tuan Hussein bin Sulaiman ber­ Schemes are coming up along Jalan tanya kapada Menteri Pelajaran ada­ Raja Uda, Butterworth, whether the kah Kementerian-nya sedar akan perlu­ Government is making plans to build nya di-gantikan meja dan bangku more schools in the immediate future sekolah yang rosak dengan yang baharu to provide schooling facilities for the tiap2 tahun di-tiap2 sekolah oleh kerana large number of children who will be di-dapati bahawa hanya sekolah2 moving in to Butterworth with their baharu sahaja di-sediakan dengan parents. perabot2 itu manakala sekolah2 lama Tuan Mohamed Khir Johari: Mr di-biarkan. Speaker, Sir, the Ministry is aware of Tuan Mohamed Khir Johari: Tuan the need to provide more schools to Yang di-Pertua, Kementerian ada-lah the growing school-going population in sedar tentang perlu-nya menggantikan the industrial area of Butterworth, and perkakas2 sekolah yang pechah atau we are now looking for suitable sites pun perkakas2 yang rendah mutu-nya. in the area. Sekolah2 ada-lah di-beri peruntokan 2 2 tiap tahun untok memperbaiki per­ PERTUKARAN GURU DI· kakas2 sekolah dan satu ranchangan SEKOLAH LONG IKANG yang bertingkat2 untok memperbaiki 22. Tuan Tama Weng Tinggang Wan perkakas2 sekolah yang kurang baik bertanya kapada Menteri Pelajaran mutu-nya sedang di-jalankan. Tetapi ada-kah dia sedar akan perlu-nya di­ oleh kerana kekurangan wang, maka adakan perubahan2 tertentu dalam kerja2 yang di-chadangkan itu tentu­ susunan guru2 sa-buah sekolah tem­ lah akan memakan rnasa yang lama. patan di-Long Ikang ia-itu guru2 di-situ tidak pernah bertukar saperti guru2 di­ MEMBAIKI BANGUNAN2 sekolah2 tempatan lain, dan jika sedar, SEKOLAH LAMA apa-kah tindakan Kerajaan berchadang hendak ambil untok membaiki sekolah 24. Tuan Hussein bin Sulaiman ber­ itu. tanya kapada Menteri Pelajaran, oleh kerana bangunan2 sekolah lama perlu Tuan Mohamed Khir Johari: Tuan di-pereksa keadaan-nya berapa tahun Yang di-Pertua. Sekolah Rendah Long sa-kali dan di-baiki dengan sa-berapa 641 16 JUNE 1967 642 chepat, sudah-kah Kementerian ini Division), Kuching Town and Sibu membuat peruntokan wang bagi ran- Town. changan2 pembaikan. Tuan Sim Boon Liang (Sarawak): Mr Tuan Mohamed Khir Johari: Tuan Speaker, Sir, is the Honourable Minis­ Yang di-Pertua, bangunan2 sekolah ter of Education aware that Dalat has ada-lah di-jagai: oleh Jabatan Kerja a population of 18,000 people and has Raya dengan wang yang di-peruntok­ 20 primary schools and that each year kan oleh Kementerian ini. Jika sa­ the number of students in Primary VI sabuah sekolah itu di-fikirkan tidak who leave school is over 200 students. patut di-perbelakan lagi atau di­ Will the Honourable Minister consider perbaiki, maka baharu-lah sekolah itu building a Government secondary di-masokkan dalam Ranchangan Pem­ school for the students in that area this bangunan untok di-gantikan. year? MEMBENA BANGUNAN2 Toan Mohamed Khir Johari: I shall SEKOLAH SEMENTARA certainly do so. Toan Edmond Langgo anak Saga: 25. Tuan Hussein bin Sulaiman ber­ Mr Speaker, Sir, is the Honourable tanya kapada Menteri Pelajaran, me­ Minister concerned aware that the mandang kapada kerap-nya berlaku 2 secondary school at Kalaka (Rohan) bangunan sekolah burok runtoh me­ is not being completed this year? nyebabkan murid2 terpaksa belajar di­ bawah pokok2 kayu, terutama-nya di­ Toan Mohamed Khir Johari: Sir, Kelantan, ada-kah Kementerian ini as I replied just now, it is being . akan menimbang mengadakan satu completed, and we hope, if nothing peruntokan khas untok membena happens in the meantime, that this bangunan2 sekolah sementara yang school should be completed at the end boleh di-diri atau di-pechahkan dengan of this year. 2 mudah bagi menempatkan murid ter­ Toan Edmond Langgo anak Saga: sebut. It is not being completed, Mr Speaker, Toan Mohamed Khir Johari: Tuan Sir! (Laughter). Yang di-Pertua, Kementerian tidak me­ Mr Speaker: I think what is meant mikirkan perlu di-adakan suatu perun­ is that no start has been made, but tokan khas. Wang sa-jumlah $151,000 assurance has been given that it will telah di-peruntokkan dalam tahun ini 2 be completed at the end of this year untok menggantikan sekolah di­ (Laughter). Kelantan yang telah burok ia-itu Sekolah Kebangsaan Pulau Beluru, UNIVERSITI MALAYA- Banggul Saman, Alor Pasir dan Gual PERTUKARAN NAMA Periok. 27. Toan Ramli bin Omar bertanya BUILDING OF SECONDARY kapada Menteri Pelajaran ada-kah SCHOOLS IN SARAWAK Kerajaan berchadang hendak menukar­ kan nama Universiti Malaya menjadi 26. Toan Edmond Langgo anak Saga Universiti Malaysia. (Sarawak) asks the Minister of Educa­ tion to state how many secondary Toan Mohamed Khir Johari: Tuan schools have been planned, and where Yang di-Pertua, saya telah di-nasihat­ they will be built in Sarawak this year. kan bahawa pehak berkuasa Universiti tidak berchadang hendak menukarkan Tuan Mohamed Khir Johari: Mr nama Universiti sekarang ini. Speaker, Sir, six Government secondary schools are being completed this year BAY ARAN GAD BAGI BIDAN2 in Bau, Kalaka (Rohan), Saribas in DI-LONG JEH DAN RUMAH2 Debak, Kapit, Long Lama and Subis. PANJANG LAIN Planning for new secondary schools is being carried on in respect of Across 28. Tuan Tama Weng Tinggang Wan River, Kuching, Lubok Antu (Second bertanya kapada Menteri Kesihatan 643 16 JUNE 1967 644 sama ada beliau sedar bahawa bidan2 said, that is, in fact, a full-time job in di-Long Jeh dan di-lain2 rumah panjang the long house and they are not paid? di-Batang Baram tidak di-bayar gaji kerana khidmat2 mereka; jika sedar, Toan Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman: terangkan apa2 sebab-nya maka bidan2 Tuan Yang di-Pertua. Majlis Tempatan tersebut tidak di-beri layanan sama ada-lah di-bawah kuasa Negeri; jadi saperti yang di-beri kapada pegawai2 itu terpulang-lah kapada Kerajaan lain yang berkhidmat dalam Jabatan Negeri mengambil aleh atau pun berun· Kesihatan. ding dengan Kerajaan Pusat supaya . dapat kita menetapkan bidan2 daripada The Parliamentary Secretary to the Kerajaan Pusat di-kelinik2 atau di­ Minister of Health (Tuan Ibrahim bin Pusat2 Kesihatan yang lain. Abdul Rahman): Tuan Yang di­ Pertua, bidan2 di-Long Jeh dan rumah2 Tuan Ong Kee Hui: Would the panjang yang lain juga di-Batang Honourable Parliamentary Secretary, Baram ada-lah bidan2 yang telah men­ who has replied on behalf of the Minis­ dapat latehan daripada Majlis Tempa­ ter, look into this whole question and tan untok bertugas di-kawasan2-nya. give that advice as may be necessary Mereka itu tidak bekerja tetap sa-bagai to the local authorities concerned, bidan2 yang bekerja di-Kelinik2 Kesi­ because the system at present does not work? Would the Minister look into hatan Kanak2• Yang demikian mereka itu di-bayar hanya wang tempatan this matter? (Pause). sahaja untok mereka menjalankan per­ Mr Speaker: Is the assurance given? khidmatan perbidanan di-kampong2 (Laughter). atau di-rumah2 panjang di-situ. Tuan Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman: Toan Tama Weng Tinggang Wan: Yes. Tuan Yang di-Pertua. soalan tambahan. Siapa yang tahu dia tidak kerja tetap. ESTABLISHMENT OF TOURIST Ini tidor pun tidak senang sebab rumah PROMOTION CORPORATION FOR panjang dia tidak ada yang lain, dia PROMOTION OF TOURISM satu sahaja. ltu yang kami tahu; nanti wanita2 tidak-lah dia suka bekerja 29. Tonku Abdullah (Rawang) asks bidan kerana tidak ada faedah kapada the Minister of Commerce and Indus­ dia sendiri. ltu-lah sebab di-rumah try whether he is aware that there is a panjang nanti anak atau adek orang big potential for the tourist industry jangan-lah kerja itu lagi sebab buang in Malaysia, and whether he is aware masa sahaja, bagitu-lah fikiran orang that in West Indies this big industry yang akan datang. ltu-lah yang saya · was originally spearheaded by active suka memberitahu. Government participation and, if so, whether he would consider setting up Tuan Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman: a Tourist Promotion Corporation, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Ahli Yang Ber­ financed in the first instance by Govern­ hormat itu dekat dengan bidan2 ini, ment to take the lead in the promotion tentu-lah Yang Berhormat itu tahu. of the tourist industry. Tetapi apa yang saya katakan tadi, The Minister of Commerce and bidan2 ini ada-lah di-ambil oleh Industry (Dr Lim Swee Aon): Mr Majlis2 Tempatan yang berkenaan dan Speaker, Sir, the Government has gaji mereka juga di-bayar oleh Majlis2 actually participated in the promotion Tempatan. of tourism and has established the Tourist Promotion Section in the Minis­ Toan Ong Kee Hui (Sarawak): Mr try of Commerce and Industry in 1959. Speaker, Sir, I myself was at Long Jeh, Since, 1965, it has been turned .into a and the question is, would the Minis­ full Division of the Ministry, and as ter not consider going into the whole I have told the Members of this question of these ulu midwives because, House on previous occasions. a Work­ as the Honourable Member has just ing Party on Tourism has been set up 645 16 JUNE 1967 646 to make a comprehensive study on BANTUAN WANG KAPADA how best tourism should be further PENANAM LADA, developed in this country. This SARAWAK. Working Party has now completed its report and its recommendations are 31. Tuan Edmund Langgu anak Sap being submitted to Government for bertanya kapada Menteri Pertanian consideration. dan Sharikat Kerjasama ada-kah Kera­ jaan Pusat akan atau tidak akan Tunku Abdullah: Mr Speaker, Sir, menggalakkan Kerajaan Negeri Sara­ in the findings of the Committee, is wak memberi bantuan kapada pena­ there included, for instance, the estab­ nam2 lada di-Negeri itu. lishment of a Corporation by Govern­ ment with a view to spearhead the Menteri Pertanian clan Sharikat tourist industry generally? Kerjasama (Tuan Haji Mohd. Ghazali bin Haji Jawi): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Dr Lim Swee Aun: Mr Speaker, Sir, satu kajian yang di-buat oleh Lembaga the recommendations of this Working Pemasaran Pertanian Persekutuan atau Committee are still confidential, but FAMA telah menunjokkan bahawa apa there is a recommendation that the yang sangat2 di-kehendaki ia-lah suatu Government itself should take active sistem grading yang wajib dan pema­ participation in the promotion of saran yang di-kawal. Dengan chara tourism. ini-lah di-fikirkan lada hitam dari Sarawak dapat mengambil bahagian DISTRIBUTION OF PRODUCTS OF yang lebeh besar di-dalam pasaran PIONEER STATUS MANUFAC­ dunia. Tidak-lah perlu pada perengkat TURERS ini bagi Kerajaan Pusat menggalakkan Kerajaan · Negeri Sarawak memberi 30. Tunku Abdullah asks the Minister bantuan wang kapada penanam2 lada of Commerce and Industry whether he di-negeri itu sa-hingga perkara ini would insist, as a condition in issue dapat di-jalankan. of the certificates of pioneer status to manufacturers, what distribution of the RANCHANGAN MENANAM PADI products of such manufacturers be DUA KALI SA-TAHUN handled entirely by companies owned · DI-SARAWAK by Malaysians and that at least 40% of such distribution be handled by 32. Tuan Edmund Langgu anak Saga companies with the bumiputera as the bertanya kapada Menteri Pertanian majority shareholders. dan Sharikat Kerjasama bila ranchang­ an padi dua kali sa-tahun di-jalankan Dr Lim Swee Aun: Mr Speaker, Sir, di-Sarawak. efficient distribution is essential for the success of any industrial enterprise. It Tuan Haji Mohd. Ghazali bin Haji is, therefore, in the interest of all .Jawi: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sunggoh manufacturers to select the channel of pun ada chita2 hendak mengadakan distribution which they desire. In such penanaman padi dua kali sa-tahun selection and establishment of distribu­ di-Sarawak, malang-nya kawasan2 yang tion channels for manufactured pro­ sesuai untok perojek ini ada-Iah sadi­ ducts, there should be a minimum of kit. Sunggoh pun hujan untok musim interference from Government. pertama ada-lah menchukupi tetapi untok penanaman yang kedua tidak Bumiputera companies, who have sa-bagitu menchukupi. Kawasan2 yang facilities for effective distribution of mempunyai taliayer dan kawasan2 di­ manufactured products, can contact mana taliayer dapat di-adakan ada-lah local manufacturers for agencies for sangat terhad, dealing in their products. Such manu­ facturers are fully aware of Govern­ Waiau bagaimana pun suatu perojek ment's policy to encourage to the fullest perchubaan parit dan taliayer untok extent possible Malay participation in penanaman padi di-kawasan Sibuti commerce and industry. telah di-ranchangkan dan ini mungkin 647 16 JUNE 1967 648 membolehkan penanaman dua kali sa­ Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dengan reng­ tahun di-Sibuti. kas-nya saya Inenyentoh sadikit ber­ kenaan dengan Jabatan Perdana Mr Speaker: Meshuarat ini di­ Menteri. Saya rasa tidak-lah bagitu tanggohkan sa-lama 10 minit. besar sangat gµna-nya Inengulang2kan Sitting suspended at 10.35 a.m. masaalah bahasa kebangsaan ini kerana dia sudah menjadi satu perkara yang Sitting resumed at 11 a.m. sudah di-fahain oleh semua pehak. (Mr Speaker in the Chai,r) Tetapi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya suka-lah Inendapat perhatian daripada PERSIDANGAN (USUL) Tuan Yang di-Pertua dan Dewan ini Menteri Pelajaran (Enche' Mohd. Khir ia-itu ada-lah menjadi puncha kesu­ Johari): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya litan dan kesukaran bagi negara kita pohon Inenchadangkan- dalain Inasa yang akan datang-tidak Bahawa sunggoh pun ada sharat2 Per­ jauh tetapi hainpir-ia-itu dengan ada­ atoran Meshuarat 12, Majlis ini akan ber­ nya Act atau pun Undang2 Bahasa sidang pada hari Sabtu 17hb Jun, 1967, tahun 1967 yang tidak dapat Inemberi daripada pukul 10 pagi hingga pukul 1 satu ketegasan yang benar2 atas peng­ tengah hari. gunaan bahasa Melayu sa-bagai bahasa Tuan Haji Abdul Hamid Khan: kebangsaan. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya menyokong. Ada dua sahaja perkara yang saya Question put and agreed to. hendak sebut sa-bagai kenang2an, Tuan Resolved, Yang di-Pertua. Bahawa sunggoh pun ada sharat2 Per­ Yang pertama, bagi saya ada-lah atoran Meshuarat 12, Majlis ini akan ber­ tidak tepat tujuan kita dengan meng­ sidang pada hari Sabtu 17hb Jun, 1967, daripada pukul 10 pagi hingga pukul 1 gunakan bahasa Melayu itu bahasa tengah hari. kebangsaan, oleh kerana bahasa ke­ bangsaan bukan bahasa rasini ia-itu MOTION national language dengan official THE YANG Dl·PERTUAN language ada berlainan dari segi un­ AGONG'S SPEECH dang2, dari segi legal-nya. Chontoh-nya ia-itu di-Singapura. Singapura, bahasa Address of Thanks kebangsaan-nya ia-lah Melayu-na­ Order read for resuinption of debate tional language, tetapi official language on Question: dia empat; ia-itu bahasa orang puteh, Bahawa suatu uchapan yang tidak saperti­ bahasa Melayu, bahasa China dan nya di-persembahkan kapada Kebawah Duli bahasa Tamil. Jadi kita tidak mahu­ Yang Maha Mulia Seri Paduka Baginda Yang di-Pertuan Agong demikian bunyi-nya: lah negara kita di-tipu oleh Dewan ini dengan menggunakan perkataan "~pun Tuanku, national language itu dengan maksud Patek, Speaker dan Ahli2 Dewan Ra'ayat Malaysia di-dalam Persidangan Parlimen, perkataan itu Inengandongi erti bahasa memohon ampun mempersembahkan suatu rasmi. uchapan yang zalil daripada Majlis Dewan Ra'ayat menguchapkan berbanyak-banyak Yang kedua, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, shukor dan terima kaseh kapada Kebawah apa-lah erti-nya kita akan Inenjalankan Duli kerana Titah Uchapan Kebawah Duli bahasa kebangsaan pada lhb Septein­ pada masa membuka Penggal Yang Ke­ empat Parlimen Yang Kedua." ber ini dengan kuat kuasa Act atau pun Undang2 ini, yang menyebut (15·hb Jun, 1967). bahawa keseinua Rang Undang2 yang Tuan Haji Abu Bakar bin Hamzah: di-keinukakan di-dalain sa-barang Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dengan izin Majlis Undangan saina ada Parlimen, tuan, saya hendak menyainbong ucha­ Dewan Ra'ayat, Dewan Negara atau pan saya sa-Inalain yang telah saya pun Dewan Negeri, ia-itu yang berkuat Inulakan dengan pangkal-nya dan pada kuasakan-nya ia-lah yang di-tulis di­ hari mi saya hendak masok ka-tengah dalam bahasa kebangsaan. Tetapi di­ sampai kapada hujong-nya ia-itu hu­ dalam kenyataan ini juga menyatakan­ jong yang ada di-hadapan saya. "melainkan Seri Paduka Baginda Yang 649 16 JUNE 1967 650 di-Pertuan Agong mengishtiharkan sa­ di-Pertua. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, boleh balek-nya". Jadi erti-nya di-samping menjadi saksi bahawa bilangan benda bahasa rasmi yang kita katakan bahasa ini akan menjadi burok, going worse kebangsaan itu bahasa rasmi, boleh-lah to worse. dia adakan satu usaha hendak ishtihar Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dalam kema­ atau pun hendak prescribe yang lain juan pentadbiran, kita berterima kaseh daripada yang rasmi. Tetapi nampak­ kapada Kerajaan dan terima kaseh nya di-sini boleh saya rasa dua perkara kapada Dewan ini dan kapada Tuan ini patut-lah menjadi perhatian pehak sendiri yang menjadi Pengerusi sa­ Kerajaan. hingga Dewan kita ini dapat melahirkan Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ada sadikit ber­ fikiran2 yang baik. Tetapi ada satu kenaan dengan Masjid Negara. Tidak agak-nya barangkali tersilap terjemah ada siapa yang tiada memuji Masjid atau pun saya tidak faham, Tuan Yang Negara, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, terutama di-Pertua, boleh-lah Tuan Yang di­ kalau kita dudok di-Kuala Lumpur Pertua tolong betulkan. Ia-itu ada-lah ini. Tetapi menchatitkan di-dalam satu kekeliruan yang amat besar dalam uchapan titah di-Raja bahawa Masjid Butir 13-Kemajuan Pentadbiran, Negara ini di-lawati oleh bermacham2 dalam bahasa lnggeris-nya Development pelawat. Maka ini bukan-lah satu Administration. Dalam bahasa Melayu­ perkara yang layak kita masokkan nya di-sebut, "semenjak di-tubohkan dalam uchapan yang sa-macham ini. pada pertengahan tahun 1966, Bahagian Orang melawat-bukan muzeum. Mas­ Kemajuan Pentadbiran telah menjalan­ jid Negara ini untok tujuan yang lain. kan dua penyiasatan yang besar." Erti­ Kalau-lah sa-kira-nya kita hendak nya benda ini sudah heres, sudah berbangga dengan Masjid Negara itu selesai, tetapi tengok dalam bahasa bagi banyak orang melawat, suka saya Inggeris kata-nya Development Admi­ menchadangkan kapada Kerajaan Per­ nistration Unit in the middle of 1966, ikatan supaya di-adakan di-tepi-nya two major services are being conducted. satu berhala Negara, lagi ramai Muslim Jadi arti-nya sedang di-buat, yang ini dan non Muslim akan datang melawat, tidak selesai lagi. Yang di-terjemahkan kalau itu-lah tujuan kita. State Temple ka-dalam bahasa Melayu itu jadi selesai. kita charikan lagi satu di-situ. lni kalau saya tidak silap faham, Tuan Berkenaan dengan perhubongan de­ Yang di-Pertua, ini satu penipuan dan ngan Malaysia Timor, Tuan Yang di­ kekeliruan yang di-buat oleh Kerajaan Pertua, sa-malam kita telah pun men­ yang di-masokkan di-dalam Titah di­ dengar satu uchapan yang agak sedeh Raja tidak patut membuat kekeliruan. sadikit walau pun tidak bagitu tajam, Jadi arti-nya Kerajaan kita ini meng­ ia-itu sa-orang Ahli daripada Sabah gunakan Titah di-Raja ini untok melin­ dongi kerja2 yang mereka itu, saya rasa minta di-adakan rundingan meja bulat, patut-lah Kerajaan ...... supaya kita merundingkan butir2 yang tertulis di-dalam perjanjian antara Mr Speaker: Sa-belum tipu itu Malaysia dengan Sabah yang 20 per­ barangkali silap dahulu-tidak bagitu. kara itu hendak di-kaji sa-mula. Ini, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, menunjokkan Tuan Haji Abu Bakar bin Hamzah: ada retak2 yang tidak sedap kapada Tersilap, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, bila keutohan negara kita dan saya bimbang kesilapan itu membawa kapada arti pula chadangan yang sa-macham ini penipuan yang kita takut-nya. Silap itu akan di-terbitkan oleh pehak Sarawak banyak sangat sudah tersilap-nya. pula. Jadi kalau Sarawak pun hendak Tuan Yang di-Pertua, berkenaan merundingkan di-atas butir2 perjanjian, dengan tata tertib .dalam Butir 15, Sabah pun hendak merundingkan, Perkara 3. Ini, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Singapura sudah keluar, saya fikir lagi satu silap kalau tidak tipu pun lagi perkara ini akan membawa kapada satu silap, ia-itu pemindahan kuasa2 benda yang tidak baik bagi keadaan menaikkan pangkat dan tata tertib dari­ pembangunan negeri kita dan keutohan. pada Surohanjaya Perkhidmatan 'Awam Dan saya rasa perkara ini tidak sa­ kapada Kementerian2 dan Jabatan2. takat hendak berunding, Tuan Yang Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Public Service 651 16 JUNE 1967 652 Commission atau pun badan yang sia Timor yang di-katakan bahawa menjaga perkhidmatan 'awam ini ada­ pegawai2 tempatan maseh ada layak. lah satu badan yang kita harap badan Jadi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ini menim­ berkechuali dan kuasa2 yang di-beri bulkan satu perasaan colonialistic dari­ kapada-nya atau pun yang di-salorkan pada Malaysia Barat kapada Malaysia melalui Jabatan2 Kerajaan boleh kita Timor. Sa-lagi perasaan ini ada, Tuan terima sa-bagai satu kuasa yang besar. Yang di-Pertua, dan sa-lagi satu sistem Tetapi mengambil kuasa Surohanjaya tidak dapat di-buat bagi mengatasi ini memberikan kapada Kementerian perasaan itu saya rasa chara pentadbiran ini sudah politik. Boleh jadi pada masa negeri kita tidak akan dapat berjalan ini Kerajaan kita rasa senang dengan dengan baik. chara bagitu, tetapi Kerajaan kita sen­ diri walau pun Kerajaan ini tidak ber­ Tuan Yang di-Pertua, berkenaan ubah akan menemui kesulitan pula dengan ekonomi dalam tahun 1966 dalam perkara2 ini. Dan saya rasa tidak sa-bagaimana tersebut dalam Butiran ada orang pernah buat bahawa Perkhid­ 40 yang menjadi masaalah ia-lah kita matan 'Awam ini di-serah kapada mengharapkan bahawa kedudokan Kementerian, tidak pernah ada dalam taraf hidup per capita bagi sa-orang perkara itu. Ini satu kesilapan yang ra'ayat negeri kita ini dapat di-pertahan­ besar, Tuan Yang di-Pertua. kan, tetapi mempertahankan taraf hidup per capita bagi sa-orang ra'ayat tergan­ Ada pun berkenaan dengan Pengajian tong kapada eksepot2 yang besar. Tuan Pembangunan yang di-bawah Jabatan Yang di-Pertua, ini-lah berulang2 kali Perdana Menteri juga saya berterima pernah di-sebutkan oleh pehak di-sini kaseh-lah dan berasa gembira kapada ia-itu kema'amoran atau kesenangan Kerajaan yang dapat mengadakan ber­ ra'ayat jelata tidak-lah bergantong ka­ bagai seminar berkenaan dengan Pusat pada per capita, utama yang di-dasar­ Pengajian Pembangunan Malaysia (The kan di-atas eksepot2 yang besar. Ra'ayat Malaysian Centre for Development tidak ada kena-mengena dengan bijeh Studies), tetapi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dan timah, tidak berapa ramai orang patut-lah penyata2 daripada meshuarat yang bekerja dalam lotnbong bijeh dan itu di-beri kapada Ahli2 Parlimen ini timah. Kalau kita hendak dasarkan supaya Ahli2 Parlimen ini juga dapat stable-nya dudok per capita income membacha dan kalau tidak dapat mem­ bagi sa-orang itu kapada major eksepot beri fikiran yang baik pun dapat meng­ sahaja, saya rasa tidak ada-lah peruba­ ambil fikiran yang baik di-situ. Tetapi han bagi nasib ra'ayat jelata kita. ini tidak ada di-keluarkan, boleh jadi tidak sampai kapada saya, tetapi saya Ada pun berkenaan dengan Bantuan rasa tidak ada kapada Ahli2 yang lain. Pembangunan atau pun Development Kalau bagitu, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Aid dalam bahasa Inggeris-nya, kita bagimana-lah kemajuan negara kita ini telah mendapat tawaran sa-banyak ranchangan2-nya di-kemukakan dalam M$10 juta daripada Kerajaan Australia Dewan, tetapi peluang Ahli2 Dewan ini untok membuat sa-batang jalan di­ untok hendak mengerti perjalanan itu Sabah yang menghubongkan Jesselton tidak di-beri dan akhir-nya Kerajaan dengan Sandakan. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, chuba hendak membuat majallah2 di-samping kita menguchapkan terima dengan menulis article supaya orang kaseh kapada Kerajaan yang menawar­ lain boleh membacha. Jadi majallah dan kan bantuan ini saya suka-lah memberi article itu perkara lain, penyata ada-lah pendapat ia-itu jalan yang kita hendak perkara yang lain, Tuan Yang di-Pertua. buat tidak-lah mesti daripada Jesselton ka-Sandakan-jikalau pun kita hendak Lagi juga, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, satu buat daripada Sabah dengan Sanda­ kerumitan lagi ia-itu dalam Butiran kan-saya telah lihat dua buah bandar 35-Pinjaman Pegawai2 Malaysia Barat itu-maka kepentingan-nya tidak bagitu ka-Malaysia Timor. Sa-malam saya banyak, ia-itu yang saya sebut kepen­ telah dengar uchapan daripada satu tingan daripada jalan ini ada-lah yang pehak dari negeri Sabah ia-itu ada pertama dari segi ekonomi, yang kedua pegawai2 Malaysia yang mengambil patut kita timbangkan juga dari segi tempat di-jabatan2 tempatan di-Malay- military ia-itu ada-kah jalan itu boleh 653 16 JUNE 1967 654 jadi guna kapada gerakan military ia-itu lima buah negeri telah di-dudoki kita. Sa-bagai sa-buah negara yang oleh orang2 yang bukan Melayu. Tuan kechil bukan sahaja kita memandang Yang di-Pertua, bukan saya hendak nilai dari segi ekonomi tetapi serentak mengatakan di-sini China atau pun juga mesti-lah kita pandang nilai-nya India, yang saya sebut ia-lah orang2 dari segi pergerakan military. Jika yang bukan Melayu. Kalau China atau tidak apabila jadi satu2 perkara, ter­ pun India mudah kita buat kira2 sebab paksa pula kita membena jalan yang mereka itu menjadi warganegara kita lain yang akan memakan belanja yang di-sini dan akan dapat taraf warga­ banyak yang hanya di-gunakan buat negara, tetapi bila kita sebut bukan sementara waktu. Kalau jalan yang Melayu saya takut pula ada China2 hendak di-buat di-Sabah clan di­ yang tidak mempunyai hak atau pun Sarawak ini mempunyai nilai military orang2 lain. Mithal-nya, Tuan Yang dan ekonomi maka itu-lah yang kita di-Pertua, saya bachakan lima buah harap2kan. negeri sahaja yang menjadi chontoh ia-itu di-negeri Perak: orang2 Melayu Ada pun berkenaan dengan ke­ 2 bolehan technical know-how atau pun ada 589,000 orang China ada 644,000 bantuan2 teknik daripada luar negeri tetapi jumlah yang bukan Melayu ada saya menyeru Kerajaan kalau sudah 880,000. Jadi perbezaan China, Melayu kita hendak mengadakan perhubongan di-champor dengan Indian sadikit sa­ diplomatic dengan Russia (Moscow) banyak boleh menimbulkan orang yang sa-bagaimana yang saya bacha dalam bukan Melayu sampai 880,000. Saya surat-khabar pagi ini, kalau ini ber­ rasa ini menjadi satu masaalah kapada laku kita bawa-lah juru2 teknik dari­ kita dalam menentukan sijil2 warga­ pada Russia supaya dapat melateh kita negara. Bagitu juga Pulau Pinang, dalam lapangan membuat ranchangan2 Tuan Yang di-Pertua, orang Melayu yang besar. Malah saya mengshorkan ada 216-ma'af-orang Melayu ada kapada Kerajaan supaya membeli 197, bangsa lain ada 483. Di-negeri roket2 yang besar dan di-roketkan Johor 561, orang lain ada 877. Jadi segala bukit2-bukan yang ada dalam ini, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, kesemua­ Malaya ini . supaya tanah itu menjadi nya ia-lah orang yang bukan Melayu flat (rata). Ini, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, yang kita tidak tahu ada-kah China barang2 perang dahulu banyak surplus a.tau pun India atau pun orang yang Russians tidak menggunakan roket-nya babaru masok. Ini-lah satu perhatian di-negeri-nya di-panahkan bukit-bukau khas yang saya beri kapada Kemen­ itu di-pechahkan. Kita di-sini Gunong terian ini. Tahan itu boleh kita panah dan apabila menjadi flat, banyak-lah ra'ayat Ada pun berkenaan dengan Kemen­ boleh hidup di-atas tanah datar dari­ terian Hal Ehwal Sabah dan pada mereka itu hidup di-atas bukit. Pertahanan 'Awam, saya suka memo­ Ini pemah di-buat oleh negara2 lain, tong, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Kemen­ Tuan Yang di-Pertua. terian Hal Ehwal Sabah ini, biar kita tinggalkan Kementerian Pertahanan Berkenaan dengan Kementerian Hal 'Awam, kerana kalau kita adakan satu Ehwal Dalam Negeri, ada sadikit Kementerian Hal Ehwal Sabah patut sahaja, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ia-itu juga kita adakan Kementerian Hal pendaftaran warganegara kita nampak­ Ehwal Sarawak, sebab Sarawak itu nya pada tahun ini banyak-lah sijil2 satu unit juga dengan kita. Dan lagi kera'ayatan yang telah kita beri. Yang pula kita nampak bahawa jawatan kita bimbang ia-lah daripada ra'ayat Kementerian atau pun wujud-nya kita ini telah memberi kenyataan yang Kementerian Hal Ehwal Sabah ini falsu dan mereka itu telah mendapat 2 bukan-lah betul2 sa-bagai satu pentad­ sijil dan kemudian-riya di-tarek balek. biran yang sa-mata2 sa-bagai sagu hati Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mem­ politik di-masa Sabah masok dalam punyai satu report di~hadapan saya Perikatan pada hari itu dan pada hari ia-itu timbul satu shak di-atas pen­ ini nampak-nya hal ehwal itu tidak dudok2 di-Malaysia Barat kita ini bagitu berguna. 655 16 JUNE 1967 656 Menteri kita yang dahulu pun tidak menerima kaseh kapada Peguam membuat banyak kerja berkenaan Negara kita itu dengan agak-nya badan­ dengan Pertahanan •Awam, dia tidak nya tidak bagitu kuat pun menjalankan pernah lawat negeri2 dalam Malaysia, kerja bila di-suroh. Jadi ini menjadi bagitu juga Menteri yang ada sekarang satu perkara yang tidak baik-chontoh ini tidak pernah melawat-mengikut yang tidak baik kapada pegawai2 tinggi pepatah Arab, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, kita. . dia kata (Shabudin .... Arab) Sha­ Satu perubahan baharu, Tuan Yang budin pun tidak kurang kuat dia punya di-Pertua, yang ada berlaku dalam belahak-nya daripada saudara dia yang Malaysia kita ini ia-itu perkhidmatan telah lalu. Jadi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dalam negara kita sudah di-bagi dua ini ada-lah satu pentadbiran yang ia-itu Perkhidmatan Dalam Negeri dan merugikan kita sendiri. Perkhidmatan Luar Negeri supaya Saya menguchapkan tahniah kapada dapat mengubah (transfer) atau pun Kementerian Tanah dan Galian walau menukar pegawai2 itu dengan tidak pun saya maseh tidak puas hati tentang payah di-pinjam lagi. Saya tidak faham, kerja2 yang di-lakukan oleh Lembaga Tuan Yang di-Pertua, apa-kah erti-nya Pemulehan dan Penyatuan Tanah meminjam pegawai Kerajaan daripada Negara. Amat-lab lama kita mendengar taraf MCS kapada Pegawai2 Luar Lembaga ini tetapi sa-hingga hari ini Negeri. Waiau pun jawatan-nya ber­ pun tidak mempunyai petua2 atau lainan tetapi meminjam orang itu. formula-nya yang dapat di-ikuti oleh Yang sa-benar-nya tidak ada erti ra•ayat apa-tah lagi kerja yang concrete. meminjam ia-itu lebeh baik kita recruit Jadi sa-lama hari ini nyata-lah kapada orang itu sendiri hantar pergi membuat kita bahawa pehak lembaga ini tidak kerja itu. Dan kalau kita hendak mempunyai satu faedah atau pun land katakan meminjam oleh kerana ber­ reform yang dapat di-jadikan asas sangkut paut dengan gaji, saya rasa untok melaksanakan kerja2-nya. tidak-lah mustahak di-sebutkan pinjam tetapi boleh di-ubahkan kerja2-nya Berkenaan dengan Menteri Kea'dilan, 2 dukachita oleh kerana Menteri tidak kapada kerja yang lain. Apabila kita ada di-sini, saya naik satu perasaan menyatakan kapada pegawai2 tinggi, tuan2 akan pergi bekerja di-luar negeri yang luar biasa apabila saya dapati 2 pegawai tertinggi kita ia-itu Peguam atas nama pegawai yang di-pinjamkan Negara kita di-perentah suroh keluar sudah tentu dia tidak dapat menjalan­ ka-negeri2 memberi tahu berkenaan kan kerja dengan adil, dengan baik dan 2 dengan penoh hati kerana dia tahu dengan Undang Bahasa Kebangsaan. 2 Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya perchaya yang dia ini di-pinjamkan. Maka orang pegawai kita ini satu orang yang baik, yang di-pinjamkan ini, Tuan Yang di­ yang ta•at, yang ikut perentah dan apa­ Pertua, walau bagaimana baik sa-kali bila di-suroh dia pergi, apabila dia di­ pun, tidak kekal lama untok di­ panggil dia datang. Yang saya ingat pergunakan. saya ada-lah sa-orang Ahli yang muda Tuan Yang di-Pertua, berkenaan dalam Dewan ini, muda khidmat-nya, dengan Kementerian Buroh, saya dapati saya tidak biasa dengar Rang Undang2 banyak-lah kerja2 yang baik di-kemuka­ apabila di-luluskan menjadi Undang2 kan pada tahun ini, dan saya rasa ini maka Peguam Negara kita di-kirim ada-lah satu kejayaan ia-itu sa-bagai­ pergi merata tempat menerangkan. mana yang kita adakan perhubongan Kalau terpaksa kita hendak menyuroh perusahaan, Undang2 Buroh, terutama Peguam Negara kita itu memberatkan­ berkenaan dengan Undang2 Insurance nya, apa-kah guna Wakil2 Ra•ayat Kebajikan Pekerja. Saya, Tuan Yang yang dudok ada ini, sa-patut-nya di-Pertua, maseh ingat lagi mula2 saya WakiJ2 Ra•ayat ini-lah yang memberi masok di-dalam Dewan ini yang per­ penerangan di-atas maksud2 Rang tama saya menjerit dan meneriakkan Undang2 itu-yang sudah menjadi ia-lah mengadakan satu jaminan social Undang2, mengapa kita suroh pegawai kapada pekerja2 kita, oleh kerana Kerajaan pergi, dahulu tidak pernah tenaga ini ia-lah sa-bahagian daripada berbuat bagitu, dan kita patut-lah tenaga pengeluaran bagi negara kita. 657 16 JUNE 1967 658 Jadi dengan ada-nya bagini, Tuan Yang menulis surat kapada saya mengatakan di-Pertua, kita menguchapkan ribuan kumpulan kami ini di-namakan kum­ terima kaseh kapada Kementerian ini pulan untrin. Jadi saya buka dictionary, yang telah berusaha dengan susah Tuan Yang di-Pertua. tidak ada per­ payah, jikalau tidak, Tuan Yang di­ kataan untrin-rupa-nya guru2 un­ Pertua, banyak-lah orang akan menangis trained. J adi menunjokkan Kementerian dengan chara yang di-lakukan oleh Pelajaran kita ini sampai bagitu tidak Kementerian Buroh ini malah boleh memberi kursus, lapan tahun bekerja jadi ada orang yang bunoh diri kerana dia rasa perkataan untrained pun tidak Kementerian Buroh ini membuat kerja, dapat faham. Ini tidak salah guru2, Tuan Yang di-Pertua. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, salah Kemen­ terian kita juga. Berkenaan dengan Pelajaran, Tuan Yang kedua, saya menyokong Menteri Yang di-Pertua, yang akhir sa-kali ia­ kita dalam memberi satu kenaikan atau itu saya perchaya Menteri kita Yang pun kedudokan khas kapada guru2 Berhormat sendiri pun berasa sedeh 2 sekolah kebangsaan ia-itu barang siapa di-atas kejadian yang terakhir ini di­ guru lulus FMC maka dia dapat tangga sekolah2 ia-itu ada berlaku mogok, gaji $310 walau pun dia tidak tahu ada berlaku-nya work to rule-kerja bahasa lnggeris. mengikut peratoran dan berbagai2 lagi. Saya juga menyertai Kementerian Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sijil FMC dalam rumit-nya perkara ini dan dalam bahasa Melayu ini pada satu perkara ini maseh di-dalam penyiasatan segi saya akui baik tetapi pada hakikat­ lagi. Tetapi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, apa nya ini ada-lah satu sijil yang-Tuan yang mendukachitakan kita apabila izinkan saya hendak mengatakan-ia­ guru2 itu mogok atau pun sa-kurang2- itu satu sijil yang menipu, boleh jadi nya menjalankan kerja mengikut per­ saya silap saya mengatakan itu tetapi atoran, yang terkorban-nya ia-lah saya meminta izin hendak menyebutkan budak2 yang tidak berdosa yang ber­ juga, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, supaya puloh2 ribu. lni saya tidak mengatakan puas hati saya (ketawa) ia-itu sijil yang guru yang silap dan saya tidak me­ penipu sa-kali. Sebab oleh kerana kita ngatakan Kementerian yang silap. hendak dapat sijil FMC ini tidak mesti Apa yang saya mengatakan ia-lah tahu itu, tidak mesti tahu ini, yang tidak chekap-nya Kerajaan kita men­ mesti tahu satu group mata pelajaran jalankan kerja sa-hingga kejadian itu yang menyampaikan kita dapat sijil berlaku dan banyak budak2 terkorban. FMC. Bahasa Arab termasok-lah, Yang pelek-nya, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, nothing to do with education, tidak ada apa-lah Menteri kita ini dudok diam kena-mengena dengan kerja guru, tahu sahaja pada hal saya tahu Yang Ber­ bahasa Arab, lepas itu pelajaran ugama hormat Menteri kita ini pun dahulu sa­ (Islamic Study) dia guru sekolah orang guru patut-lah dia menimbang kebangsaan yang hendak mengajarkan rasa dalam perkara ini dan dia tidak­ ugama sudah ada guru lain. Lepas itu lah patut mengingatkan kapada jawatan­ bahasa Melayu, bahasa kebangsaan nya yang lama, sa-hingga saya dapat pula, jadi empat. Lulus empat ini dapat tahu di-kalangan guru2 itu ada pegawai2 sijil bahasa Melayu. Jadi buat waktu Kerajaan, ada yang bukan pegawai ini elok-lah dia itu mendapat ke­ Kerajaan-unified scheme-dan ada dudokan tetapi real value yang sa­ yang bukan apa2 pun ada, jadi dia benar-nya apa yang hendak di-buatkan pegawai Kerajaan pun bukan, unify dengan sijil itu. Mari dalam Dewan ini scheme pun bukan, bila kita tanya, dia belajar Arab dalam tiga tahun boleh kata jawatan ini dari segi legal-nya sa-patah dua dia dapat sijil naik $310 makan gaji, makan gaji sa-chara mana? dia hendak membacha barisan pun Makan gaji sa-chara chukup bulan tidak betul dan Menteri kita pun tidak terima gaji sahaja. Jadi erti-nya hendak berapa tahu baris itu betul tidak betul. ada satu kemudahan-satu timbangan, Jadi sijil yang sa-macham ini, Tuan tidak, sebab dia bukan unify scheme Yang di-Pertua, amat-lah merugikan, dan bukan pegawai Kerajaan dan guru2 dalam pada itu pun, Tuan Yang di­ ini tidak di-beri latehan langsong. Dia Pertua, dapat $310. Saya bershukor-lah 659 16 JUNE 1967 660 oleh kerana guru2 Melayu ini tidak ada tempat dudok dalam itu, ini Tuan pemah merasa gaji tinggi. Tetapi. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, menjadi satu masa­ Yang di-Pertua, boleh sama2 fikir. Sa­ alah yang rumit bagi negara kita. orang yang lulus sekolah Melayu kemudian berusaha mengambil sijil Yang ketiga, di-antara 1,500 univer­ FMC dalam bahasa Melayu dengan siti luar negeri terutama Amerika, subject2 yang saya sebutkan tadi men­ Australia dan New Zealand telah kita dapat $310 dengan satu murid yang akui ijazah2 mereka itu. Tetapi di­ lulus FMC dalam bahasa Inggeris negara2 Timor Tengah-U.A.R. atau kemudian masok ka-dalam Training pun Arab atau pun India, maseh lagi College untok mengajar dua tahun belum dapat keputusan. Yang pelek­ nya, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, menjadi maka dia dapat $310, lulus FMC dalam 2 bahasa Inggeris sudah ada bahasa amalan Kerajaan kita ia-itu murid Melayu di-situ, sudah ada satu taraf yang lulus mendapat diploma educa­ yang tinggi kemudian training pula tion di-Muslim College, Klang, yang (berlateh) sa-bagai sa-orang guru sa­ di-anjorkan oleh Kerajaan sendiri, lama dua tahun, jumlah gaji yang dapat bukan oleh College itu, dapat diploma $310, dan orang yang dudok di-rumah dapat tangga gaji $310 tetapi tidak mendapat sijil itu perchuma mendapat naik sudah, dia naik2 tinggi terus ke­ $310. Ini, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, mudian tidak naik sudah macham itu. menimbulkan salah faham di-antara Yang pelek-nya budak2 ini sudah gulongan guru2 itu. Jadi meletakkan dapat diploma pergi mengambil High.er gaji ini, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, menjadi Study di-Egypt dan mendapat M.A. satu masaalah yang rumit sekarang. balek di-sini pun $310 juga dan yang llendak tarek balek gaji itu tidak patut, saya susah hati ia-itu Kementerian kita hendak teruskan tidak lojik dan di-sini­ berjanji, kamu mendapat M.A. bila lah dudok-nya cherdek atau tidak marl bekerja dengan Kementerian kami cherdek-nya Kerajaan Perikatan. dapat beri gaji yang padan dengan kamu punya M.A. Rupa-nya gaji yang Tuan Yang di-Pertua, akhir-nya sa­ padan yang tidak boleh naik ia-itu kali, saya meminta-lah Menteri kita ini $310. lni tidak menghormati kebolehan tolong memberi pengertian berkenaan academic, Tuan Yang di-Pertua. Saya dengan masok-nya College Islam sa­ tidak membela orang2 yang balek dari bagai Authority Institute atau pun sekolah Arab dari Egypt tetapi apabila Body ia-itu satu Perbadanan yang di­ sa-orang warga negara kita mempunyai: akui di-dalam Universiti Malaya. ijazah M.A., sama ada tidak iktiraf Tuan Yang di-Pertua, di-dalam sijil itu atau pun tidak, apabila sampai meshuarat di-Universiti Malaya baharu2 kita hendak menggunakan dia dalam ini saya menghadiri dan Vice Chan­ Jabatan Kerajaan kita mesti-lah mem­ cellor ada mengishtiharkan bahawa beri kedudokan yang munasabah, kita hubongan College Islam dengan Univer­ tidak peduli dia lulus Arab, lulus India siti Malaya itu di-rapatkan dan akan atau pun lulus apa, asalkan dia dapat di-kaji supaya jadi dengan rasmi-nya. M.A. tidak patut-lah kita memberi tangga gaji dengan $310. Degree M.A. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ini berulang2 di-dalam sa-buah universiti walau pun kali terutama orang2 Islam kita malah kita tidak akui sudah tentu tinggi mutu­ orang yang bukan Islam pun tersilap nya daripada sijil normal class yang faham berkenaan dengan College Islam. pernah Menteri Pelajaran kita masoki Kerajaan memandang College Islam dahulu, lebeh tinggi lagi sijil M.A. itu. itu sa-bagai sekolah menengah . tetapi Jadi patut-Iah kita memberi nilaian kita di-sini sudah memandang dia taraf supaya orang2 ini dapat kedudokan universiti yang hendak di-masokkan yang lebeh elok lagi. di-dalam Islamic Study di-Universiti Malaya itu. Islamic Study sudah ada Saya hendak menyentoh sadikit ber­ dalam Faculty of Arts. Jadi College kenaan dengan Timor Tengah, Tuan Study bukan tempat dia, hendak di­ Yang di-Pertua, izinkan sadikit sahaja. letakkan di-luar bukan tempat dia. Jadi Kita pun naik juga hairan, Tuan Yang di-masokkan College Islam tetapi tidak di-Pertua, Arab ini boleh kalah dengan 661 16 JUNE 1967 662 Israel, satu masaalah juga (Ketawa). Amerika dan Britain itu menolong Hendak katakan keberanian, sama2 Israel atau pun mana2 negeri dalam keturunan Ahli kitab kedua2 ini. Muka Timor Tengah oleh kerana hendak pun tidak berlainan, rupa pun tidak menjaga kepentingan mereka itu­ berlainan. Israel dengan Arab ini­ kepentingan dalam ekonomi, mengapa­ kalau yang ini bukan Israel ini bukan kah negara2 ini tidak boleh menolong Arab, sudah tentu sama, Tuan Yang Malaysia membuat demikian, oleh di-Pertua, sebab saya melihat sendiri kerana kepentingan mereka itu maseh orang ini. Tetapi oleh kerana yang ini banyak dalam negara2 kita dan di­ Arab yang ini Israel, itu sahaja. Maka negeri2 yang berjiran. Mengapa pula dia menjadi Arab, yang ini menjadi mereka itu memberi pinjam dengan Israel-rupa-nya sama, Tuan Yang faedah2 yang tinggi? Ini, Tuan Yang di-Pertua. di-Pertua, ada-lah satu masaalah yang Jadi yang menjadi masaalah-nya ia­ hudoh sa-kali. lah negara kita, satu segi saya ber­ Yang akhir-nya sa-kali, Tuan Yang setuju ia-itu kita tidak ada kena­ di-Pertua, saya hairan bagaimana mengena dengan orang berperang. Majlis Keselamatan Bangsa2 Bersatu Siapa hendak berperang dia lantak-lah tidak dapat membedzakan bahawa ke­ (Ketawa), siapa suka berperang dia pentingan Timor Tengah ini sudah boleh berperang, kita hillcan war­ menjadi perang yang memakan kawa­ monger di-dalam dunia ini. san, dan negeri yang menyerang itu Tetapi satu pendirian pun kita tidak tidak di-suroh balek kapada tempat­ sebut dengan rasmi sama ada kita nya. Dia perentah suroh berhenti tem­ menyuarakan, menyokong-kah atau pun bak menembak. sa-olah2 negeri yang tidak-kah atau pun memberi satu pen­ di-tawan oleh Israel itu sudah ke­ dapat tengah2-kah, apa pun kita tidak punyaan Israel. Jadi arti-nya, Majlis kata. Yang ada kita kata, Perdana Keselamatan ini mengakui perang itu Menteri kita kata, kita tidak suka dan dengan perang itu boleh meluas­ perang, kita tidak suka bergadoh dan kan kawasan negeri kita. Saya bim­ berperang, itu tidak menjadi satu jalan bang, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, apabila yang damai. Ini bukan satu pendirian, Russia pula menolong negeri Arab Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ini satu per­ dan akhir-nya Israel terpaksa kena kataan theory yang negative, yang tidak balek kapada garisan tahun 1956 aktib, kita hendak satu suara. Indo­ dengan tahun 1949. Kalau orang2 Arab nesia, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dia tidak ini pula sampai kapada Tel Aviv, ada­ masok champor juga, tetapi Speaker kah Bangsa2 Bersatu akan mengatakan Dewan Ra'ayat atau pun Parlimen di­ dudok-lah di-situ, kamu sudah sampai sana mengatakan, sa-patut-nya Israel di-Tel Aviv sa-bagaimana kamu kata­ atau pun negeri yang melanggar itu, kan kapada Israel dudok-lah di­ walau Arab sa-kali pun, kembali balek Jerusalem. ltu ada-lah satu lojik yang kapada garisan. Negara-nya tidak sebut tidak baik. juga, Speaker Parlimen sebut satu Ada pun, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, tegas. Dan saya harap kalau Kerajaan yang kita mengatakan satu peperangan Malaysia kita tidak sebut, apa salah­ sengit di-Jerusalem saya perchaya ahli2 nya Speaker Dewan kita ini menyebut di-sini pun banyak yang pergi, tuan satu perkataan yang sa-macham itu tentu tahu. Bahawa orang2 kita, Tuan (Ketawa). Yang di-Pertua, terutama orang2 yang Yang kedua, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, marah sangat kapada pehak Barat, ter­ saya dapat tahu dalam surat2 khabar masok kita sendiri yang hendak per­ bahawa ada negara2 luar yang meno­ tahankan-nya ia-lah kubor Nabi Ibra­ long pehak Israel kerana kepentingan him di-Jerusalem itu. Dia hendak di-Terusan Suez. Saya dapat tahu, di­ bermati2 kerana itu, kepentingan eko­ katakan negeri yang terlibat itu ia-lah nomi, kepentingan negara dia tidak Britain dan Amerika-saya tidak tahu peduli. Sebab itu Israel dia chari apa yang sa-benar-nya. Tetapi yang tempat orang yang khayal2 menjaga saya hendak sebut ini kalau-lah benar kubor dia tawan dahulu. Maka orang 663 16 JUNE 1967 664 kita dia rasa leteh, barangkali Tuan and it is significant. Every year we come Yang di-Pertua sendiri pun rasa lesu into this House and we have the same mendengar orang Arab kalah. Kalah, stereotype Address from the Throne. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, kalah kubor, The responsibility for that is not His tidak menjadi satu kerugian kapada Majesty's. It is the responsibility of the kita, tetapi orang kita merasa rugi, dan Cabinet, and where a Cabinet has saya tidak tahu berapa banyak-kah chosen to advice His Majesty to side­ pemuda2 kita di-sini yang sudah men­ track and, in fact, omit to mention the daftar diri di-dalam Kementerian Per­ issues, which are causing dissension, tahanan untok mengirim sukarelawan2 which are causing strife, which are pergi ka-sana. causing unrest in the country, where an Tuan Yang di-Pertua, di-samping Address makes no mention of those saya suka kita menunjokkan semangat facts, then that Address becomes, with bagitu, saya minta Kerajaan kita ber­ all respect, valueless to the people of hati2, kalau hendak mengirim, kirim­ the country. lah bekas pasokan keselamatan kerana Mr Speaker, Sir, in the past year mereka itu tahu memegang senjata, since the last Address, there are a tahu mengangkat senjata. Jangan kirim number of issues, which are of public orang2 yang hanya tunjok semangat concern and which have been raised sahaja. Rifle dia tidak tahu pegang, from time to time, which have caused trigger dia tidak tahu, magazine dia riots, which have caused disturbances tidak tahu, kemudian pergi perang pula in the country. In the course of my di-tanah pasir yang lapang langit-nya. address, I will be touching on questions Ayam berjalan pun nampak, yang such as loyalty shown by respect for the orang kita tidak pernah tengok padang National Anthem, corruption, co-opera­ pasir dia hendak tembak-kah, dia tive housing, hospitals, the rights of the hendak rasa pasir itu gula-kah tidak. people to demonstrate, foreign policy Jadi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya minta and Vietnam in particular. supaya negara2 kita ini mengici!ll. Mr 'Speaker, Sir, I start with the orang2 yang benar, yang tahu dalam question of co-operative housing or 'ilmu peperangan. Saya rasa itu-lah low-cost housing. As I always under­ sahaja yang saya dapat katakan dan stood it, "co-operatives" means doing saya sudah sampai ka-hujong-nya saya away with profits of middlemen to en­ pun berhenti, Tuan Yang di-Pertua. able members of the co-operatives to get things, to put it simply, at cheaper Toan D. R. Seenivasagam (Ipoh): prices. Mr Speaker, Sir, is the Govern­ Mr Speaker, Sir, the Address from his ment following that policy in co­ Majesty speaks of progress. We are operatives? Facts are facts. They can­ progressing very fast and this morning's not be distorted because they are prov­ Straits Times, I think, indicate in which ed by photostat copies and, I think, it direction we are progressing. A Riot is advisable to give this House and the Squad van crossing a Customs barrier Honourable the Minister of Co­ point was caught hiding dutiable goods. operatives the facts, so that the Hon­ If the Police, particularly the Riot ourable Minister will know that at Squad, can try to smuggle goods, least one huge so-called co-operative obviously from Penang into the main­ housing society is only on paper, land, then, I ask where are we going to and that some other persons are and how far have we progressed? Are making money out of this co-operative we progressing on the right lines, or are housing. Mr Speaker, Sir, I refer to the we progressing on the wrong lines, Government where even our Police Force starts Officers' Co-operative Housing Society. smuggling goods from the Island of Now, all people in this country would Penang to the mainland proper? have thought it peculiar that from time Mr Speaker, Sir. the Address of His to time, I think the majority of Minis­ Majesty is unique and significant not ters have visited this co-operative for what it contains but for what it housing society's schemes in Kuala omits to state-in that sense it is unique Lumpur near Sungei Way. They have 665 16 JUNE 1967 666 come out on television. They have sum of money, and I say that the cir­ spoken big things about the society cumstances show that it was deliberately and the Government has committed purchased with the deliberate intention public funds and that is why I raise it of selling it to the co-operative housing in this House-committed public funds society at three or four times the value in the figure of millions of dollars to which in fact it was so sold. What is this housing society. the net result? The net result is that when it is sold for three or four times Mr Speaker, Sir, what are the facts? the value, immediately this investments This housing society is nothing but a company gets 10% and in all they have fraud on the members of that housing collected $6 million like that-imme­ society. Mr Speaker, Sir, what are the diately they get 10%. So you have facts? The inaugural meeting of this already 10% in your hands,-purchased housing society was held on the 1 lth by the partner or the brother of the of July, 1963. The Society was registered partner of the investments company. In on the 23rd of July. Honourable Mem­ addition to that, the brother or the bers will note the short period between partner if whoever it is; in various cases meeting to registration. Three days it is various persons if and they get after that-only three days after it was what profit? A clear three or four times registered-this housing society entered from the housing society. Mr Speaker, into an agreement known as an Agency Sir, is that co-operative housing? Is Agreement with a company known as that the way co-operatives deal? Is that United Asia Investments Ltd a com­ why this Government has committed pany incorporated in the Federation of itself to millions of dollars to the Malaya having its office now at Cho schemes put up by the so-called co­ Teck Building, I think, in Kuala operative housing society when in fact Lumpur, and the reason why this it does nothing, and it has stated on society says it entered into this Agency paper, in a legal document, that it has Agreement, as set out in the Agree­ no resources-within three days of for­ ment itself was, "we have no money mation, they discovered it and within and no resources to undertake any three days they sold all the rights of work". the co-operative housing, or the duties Mr Speaker, Sir, a co-operative rather, to a commercial enterprise out movement, three days after its registra­ to make money? Mr Speaker, Sir, I say tion says, "We have no money, we have that this Government, particularly in no resources, we have nothing at all to view of the fact that the Ministers, carry out this plan to build low-cost including I think the Honourable the houses for Government servants". Three Deputy Prime Minister, had appeared days later they discovered it-this in television visiting the site and assur­ Asia Investments was formed, all ing the people that everything is well ready, stand by-three days later this and good, must take immediate steps Agency Agreement was entered into. to cause a complete investigation. Call Mr Speaker, Sir, I may not know much forward the people who are prepared to about contracts, but I do know that this testify in this matter so that those who agency contract is so one-sided that are wrong, if they are criminally wrong, it is a crying shame on the housing can be brought to book; if it is morally society. Ten per cent of all capital wrong, things can be put right. But an investments are paid outright to this investigation is imminent and necessary Asia Investments Limited. When pro­ in this case. perties are purchased for this housing society I take it that the Honourable Mr Speaker, Sir, it is surprising: on the Minister concerned must be aware the 9th April, 1966, a member of the of these facts. There are in my posses­ housing society-and here I have inter­ sion extracts of Mukim registers from viewed him and I will say to this the Land Office where they clearly show House that he has a grudge, his motive that properties were purchased by a in bringing this matter up may not be partner or a brother of the partner of all good, but what he brings up is the Asia Investments Ltd for a certain true, solid facts on paper-wrote to 667 16 JUNE 1967 668 the Honourable the Prime Minister Mr Speaker, Sir, I think it is not alleging very serious things, almost necessary for me to mention names corruption, alleging wrong payments, because it will be improper. This is misuse of funds by the co-operative not an enquiry, but I say-that it will society. That was on 9th of April; 1966. be shocking if the names of persons Today, I think, is 16th June, 1967. connected with Asia Investments vis­ He has not got a reply to this letter. a-vis the housing society, are known He volunteered, he said, "Give me an to the people of Malaysia-the posts appointment, I will put all the docu­ that they hold in Government, the ments before you, Sir".-No reply. influence that they wield or allege that they wield with Ministers of this realm. Another gentleman wrote on the 24th I say it to be shocking. The public is of November, 1966, to the Commis­ beginning to think, "Is that why sioner of Co-operative Development, Ministers are visiting this housing Malaysia. He wrote a long letter, society every time, there is some alleging so many things, alleging the grumbling of trouble coming? Is that schemes by which Asia Investments why they are trying to reaffirm the Ltd makes money at the expense of genuineness of this scheme?" the so-called poor Government servants waiting for their houses. Now, I wonder Mr Speaker, Sir, there has not been whether any investigations were ever one iota of suggestion that the Ministers carried out by the Commissioner of are deliberately aware of what is Co-operative Development, Malaysia. happening. But the suggestion is that If he did carry out investigations, did the Ministers, by virtue of the fact that he call the people concerned before high officials. in Ministries are con­ Him? Did he call for the documents, cerned in this housing society, have not kept so secretly, between the co­ taken the care which should be taken operative and the Asia Investments but to investigate complaints when they which of course must come out when are made. things go too far? Mr Speaker, Sir, I would like an assurance at a later stage that an Mr Speaker, Sir, persons who contri­ immediate investigation will be held, buted to the co-operative housing, that immediate freezing of any monies many of them have not got their which the Government should pay to houses. That is why they are kicking the housing society will be held back up a row. They have not got their until the matter is clarified. houses, Mr Speaker, Sir, because money has been misused or wrongly turned Mr Speaker, Sir, now we come to into channels which it should not be the question of loyalty as exemplified turned. People are given contracts to by respect ..... build roads, same person to put up Mr Speaker: Persidangan ini di- water, same person to put up another tempohkan hingga pukul empat petang. thing. One man cannot do all things. Roads are not built. There is no Sitting suspended at 1.00 p.m. explanation . for it. There was an Sitting resumed at 4.05 p.m. attempt to explain it by saying that, "Well, the Government did not approve (Mr Deputy Speaker in the Chair) our road ways". What about the house roads, what about the house drains? mE YANG DI-PERTUAN For so many years co-operative AGONG'S SPEECH members have been asking for action. Address of Thanks They have been writing saying, "we Debate resumed. will give you the proof, give us the opportunity to come and speak to Tuan D.R. Seenivasagam: Mr Spea­ you". But you, private enterprise must ker, Sir, when the sitting was suspended profit at the expenses of so-called poor I was passing away from the subject people from co-operative societies. of low-cost housing and, in particular 669 16 JUNE 1967 670 the society I referred to. Mr Speaker, not respect it, it is because of people Sir, I think I should mention, at this like the Member who was, in under­ stage, that in so far as the structural tone, trying to say something. works and the buildings are concerned Mr Speaker, Sir, take Singapore for there has been no complaint, which example. You go to a cinema in means, therefore, that architects and Singapore and if the national anthem other professional men employed on is played, you will find that almost these schemes have carried out their to the last man there is a simultaneous duties properly and, in fact, I under­ standing-up at attention to the national stand, they have been charging the anthem. There has been no necessity minimum fees in this case. Therefore, in Singapore for a campaign to respect it is all the more a pity that this the national anthem. There should be housing society has thought it proper no necessity in this country for any to divert itself of its power and duties campaign to respect the national to a profit-making, commercial concern anthem, because every person, whether in this town. Purchasers of houses were he is pro-Government or anti-Govern­ asked, astonishingly, to sign contracts ment, must and will respect the national drawn up by lawyers without dates, flag, the national anthem and all the without specifying dates of completion, institutions that they represent and or date of progress of buildings, with stand for. the ultimate result that after a number of years several of these persons are Mr Speaker, Sir, as His Majesty has still unable to get their houses and the said, early this year a campaign was answer whenever they go to inquire is, conducted, that is the Solidarity Week, "Well, no date was specified". Mr or whatever it is, with the theme being Speaker, Sir, that is the way in which "Respect the National Anthem". The this housing society has conducted its Honourable Minister of Information business in the past and those are the and Broadcasting, as soon as the reasons for which I say the Govern­ campaign was ever, which involved ment must certainly think again before the spending of hundred upon hundreds parting with any public funds to this or thousands of dollars, announced to society. the people of Malaysia that it was a roaring success, that the campaign had Mr Speaker, Sir, my next subject brought results, had instilled a sense was the subject which I regret to have of loyalty in the people-he said the to refer to and which, I say, Malaysians people are now standing up when the generally will regret that it appears in national anthem was played. People the Speech from the Throne, and that were given to understand that the is this paragraph which says : money spent was well spent. But "Early this year My Government has within a very short time we are now initiated a campaign to instil in the hearts of the people of Malaysia a sense of given to understand that the situation patriotism and love for Malaysia and is even worse than before, to such an respect for the national anthem and the flag. extent that legislation is contemplated I hope that all my people, young and old, to make respect for the National will always respect the national anthem and the nation's flag which are the symbols of Anthem compulsory. our nation." Mr Speaker, Sir, where then can we Mr Speaker, Sir, it is regrettable that find a more glaring example of time and again Ministers and leaders contradiction in terms. If it was such of the Alliance political party refer to a success and the money was well this question of the national anthem, spent, then wpere is the necessity for and whether the people are showing legislation to respect the National respect or not showing respect. It is, Anthem? We are also told through the I think, a crying shame that our Press-and it has not been denied­ leaders have to tell the world that the that people are looking up similar citizens of this country are not legislation in America and other respecting the national anthem or the countries. I can tell you that there is flag of this country. Well if they do no legislation in America where you 671 16 JUNE 1967 672 are forced to respect the national from all, not from any one particular anthem, or the national flag. There is section. Therefore, I do hope that this legislation which imposes fines for talk on legislating for loyalty will cease destroying, or desecrating, or damaging because it won't get you loyalty; it the flag of America, but there is no will get you more and more resentment. legislation to force people to respect Mr Speaker, Sir, similarly on the it. Mr Speaker, Sir, it is a simple question of corruption, new legislation matter. Loyalty by legislation is some­ is coming out to fight corruption at all thing not desirable, and something levels. We don't oppose legislation. which you cannot attain; loyalty is not But again we must ask ourselves, why legislated for; you don't legislate to is it necessary after independence, after get loyalty. Then you must ask your­ 10 years-and there is no denying the selves, "Is there any disloyalty?" The fact that corruption in this country is answer is simple, there is none. The steadily rising-it is not being con­ question then is : Why don't people trolled, and it is getting out of control. stand when you play the national Corruption from the lower levels of anthem? Because you play it in such service to the highest levels of service a funny way. I have never seen a is an indication that all is not well, that country where before you play a people are dissatisfied, that the progress national anthem you get three pips is towards corruption and not control­ (pip-pip-pip) then an announcement, ling of corruption. Mr Speaker, Sir, "Please stand for the National whatever legislation you may pass will Anthem'', then all the lights are not stop corruption. All that the coun­ switched on, and then you play the try can do is to control it, and keep it National Anthem, and you expect under control. What are the basic everybody to stand up. causes of corruption, you must ask Mr Speaker, Sir, there are persons yourself. Of course, there is a man who in this country who, under no circum­ will be corrupted because he is greedy stances don't stand; because you are for money. But there are the larger challenging them; You say, "We will percentages of persons who will be force you to stand"; you hold a corrupted because of poor pay, because solidarity week; you say we will now of bad schemes of service, because of switch on the lights; we will now put inability to meet the rising cost of up a poster and put out a bouncing living in this country. Those are the ball setting out the words of Negara basic causes for the ordinary day-to­ Ku, and you can follow those words day corruption of, if I may say so, and sing. Is that the solemnity with Government servants. And the sooner which the National Anthem should be steps are taken to remedy that state of played? Why don't you try for a affairs, the sooner will un-controlled moment, like all civilised nations : corruption be brought under control in you want to play the National Anthem, this country. you just play it. People will stand. Mr Speaker, Sir, if we are going to But if you try to force them, if you try have a new agency to control corrup­ to dictate to them, there is a natural tion, or to investigate into corruption, resentment. You do not need legislation then I agree with the Honourable but commonsense; and if you use Member who seconded this Motion commensense in playing the National that it should be under the control and Anthem, you will find that what you direction of the Attorney-General, for are complaining of will cease to exist a very good reason-that if the Police in a very short time. Mr Speaker, Sir, are going to have anything to say with I condemn those who do not stand, it, the situation will be the same, and but let us not say they are disloyal. we will have no improvement, what­ Let us consider the reasons why this ever agency you may set up. The resentment is shown by certain sections ultimate and proper director of that of the people who go to the cinema, agency should be the Attorney-General, and they are not confined to bumi­ or some other similar person devoid of puteras or non-bumiputeras; they are all Police connections. 673 16 JUNE 1967 674 Mr Speaker, Sir, Vietnam has been What is Malaya's foreign policy? the subject of considerable discussion. Do they mean one and the same thing, I had occasion several weeks ago to or do they mean two different things'! issue a statement asking the- Gov"1-n­ His Majesty has said that Malaya's ment to confirm or deny that Police foreign policy is independent. I would officers, and I emphasize, Police officers, like to think that it was also neutral. in the Royal Malaysian Police Force But the recent development in the have been sent to Vietnam to assist in Middle East has shown a glaring con­ the war that is going on there. Up to flict as to foreign policy within, pt!r­ this minute there has been no confirma­ haps, the Cabinet itself. We have the tion, there has been no denial. I say Honourable Prime Minister saying from the floor of this House that Police "peace negotiations" which perhaps is officers in the service of the Police the proper attitude. But we had Force have gone to Vietnam, have before the Honourable Prime Minister come back from Vietnam, and when I returned, a statement from the Honour­ made that statement, at least one more able Deputy Prime Minister saying Police officer was on the verge of going "Malaysia supports the Arab nations". to Vietnam but it was cancelled. Mr The Honourable Deputy Prime Minis­ Speaker, Sir, this is information which ter went so far as to say that those who is true and real and which cannot be volunteered on the side of the Arab denied. We would like a statement as world will be given every facility to to why Police officers were sent to proceed in the defence of the Gulf of Vietnam. If you sent Police officers Aqaba. But I say this, that as events there, whether it is for the purpose of have sho,wn, even if all the Albars advising on resettlement or for the have gone, the Gulf of Aqaba will purpose of teaching guerilla warfare, remain open as it is open today. Mr then it is interference in the war in Speaker, Sir, therefore, are we neutral Vietnam, and we are involved in such in this matter, or are we on the side a war. I again say, that people of of a religious and holy war as declared Malaysia would want to know. Is the by the Arab nations? I say Malaysia statement correct? If it is correct, wlJ.y should not get involved in any holy does Government send uniforn:~d war or religious war. We may get policemen from this country to inter­ involved in a war, but let it be a war fere in the Vietnam war? Let us not on principles and matters other than have it two ways; there is a straight religious grounds. We should not and simple answer to it-"Yes or no". support any holy war or religious war, If the answer is "No", we will prove either in the Middle East or in any our facts of what we say from this side. part of the world. Therefore, we hope If it is "Yes", let us all know that it that when statements on foreign policy is so. are made, they will be considered state­ ments and not contradictory of each Mr Speaker, Sir, the Honourable other, particularly of two great per­ Member who seconded the Motion of sonalities, the Prime Minister and the Thanks referred to demonstrators-he Deputy Prime Minister-they confuse call them rioters and hooligans. Mr us, not only Malaysians but foreigners Speaker, Sir, the right to demonstrate­ as well. and the fact is that there are demon­ Mr Speaker, Sir, hospitals in this strations-is something which demo­ country have been under constant cratic institutions have tolerated from criticism. I do not intend to criticise time immemorial. Therefore, it is the services of the hospitals, because wrong and, I say, any person who calls we all know their state, we all know a demonstrator a hooligan must be why certain defects still exist-because condemned for so saying. Mr Speaker, of lack of money, lack of staff, lack of Sir, I will come back to the subject in so many things which from time to a minute in more detail, but before I time are being put right, perhaps, not do so I would like to refer to the at a rate as fast as people would expect, question of foreign policy. but something is being done. However, 675 16 JUNE 1967 676 there is one important factor. I had £erred in due time, where some remain occasion recently to have an insight of for years upon years-and, of course, the Malacca General Hospital. The when you are in a place for a very long order of the day there seems to be that tinte, there is a tendency to think that attendants will kick the nurse, the you are number one although there doctors will kick the nurse, and all may be others who are number one in sorts of things are happening there. the same office. Mr Speaker, Sir, I do Why is it happening there? They are hope that the Minister of Health will dragged into court; they are fined. Why take immediate steps to clean up the is it happening in Malacca Hospital. Malacca Hospital of this clique of The answer is very simple, and I think persons who are causing untold troubles the Ministry of Health knows it. I to the staff of the Malacca General think there is a standing order or a Hospital and if that is done, Malacca directive that, so far as the Chief General Hospital will soon become a Medical and Health Officer, or chief better place for the citizens of Malacca person in a hospital is concerned, he to go to. should not be there for more than Mr Speaker, Sir, I said that His three years as a matter of policy. In Majesty's Speech has omitted to men­ the Malacca Hospital, you have the tion a number of things which are the chief man there who has managed to questions of the day. First of all, the remain there for well over five years; language issue. Mr Speaker, Sir, one every time he is transfered, I under­ Honourable Member who spoke just stand, he sends in a sick certificate, before me, sort of condemned the recovers in a few weeks, everything is Honourable Attorney-General for going forgotten, then he goes on. It has been round the country to explain the Lang­ going on now for over five years. Then uage Bill and its implications. It is you have other doctors there, who are true that this is the first time, perhaps, set up almost permanently in Malacca. that the Attorney-General has gone And, I think I should mention this : round the country explaining a law. It unfortunately, the Malacca Hospital cannot be denied that, perhaps, this is set-up is a gang of Ceylonese control­ the most vital law as far as a citizen in ling the Malacca Hospital for years. his relationship with the Government Why should it be so? If the transfers is concerned, and from that angle I are to be carried out they should be think it was proper for the Attorney­ transferred. You should not allow General to personally interpret the them to clique up, be they Ceylonese implications of the Language Act. But or others, with the ultimate result that what has happened by such interpreta­ these people, who are there, form small tion? The Attorney-General, being a gangs among themselves and think that legal man, gave it a proper legal inter­ they are the lords and masters of the pretation. In lpoh and in other places, Medical Department not only in the Attorney-General said, "Malay will Malacca but even outside Malacca. be the National Language, but the They think that they can do anything intention of the Bill is not to cause they like and get away with it. There­ trouble or chaos. There will be fore, I hope the Honourable Minister occasion when English will be used of Health will, in particular, investigate and will be accepted by the Govern­ the question of the Malacca Hospital, ment". Now, the State Governments because you will see that the staff of are acting and re-acting differently. the Malacca Hospital are almost un­ Under the Language Act, the State animously of the opinion that certain Governments are given exclusive transfers must be done and done powers to use or not. to use English quickly, if there is to be peace, if there after the 1st of September. As far as is to be good service and administra­ the State of Perak is concerned, all tion at Malacca Hospital. That is only forms are to be printed only in the one example. There are other hospitals Malay Language except the income tax in our country where similar circum­ forms-they will be printed in two stances exist, where some are trans- languages. Now, Mr Speaker, Sir, let us 677 16 JUNE 1967 678 say that we are not too worried if they the air like that, they are the breeding print the forms in Malay. But the last grounds for explosions when the time statement of the Attorney-General indi­ comes. Things must be clarified. cating that letters in English will not receive replies and will not be con­ Mr Speaker, Sir it has been said that sidered-letters either from commercial the Language Act has been received bo::lies or otherwise-by the Govern­ well by the people generally. Sir, it has ment Departments after the 31st of not been received well by the people August, is an alarming statement. At generally. The people are anxious, the every explanatory session, people are people are on tension, the people want given to understand that English would to know exactly what is the Language also be accepted in correspondence as Act on the 1st of September, 1967. They otherwise hardships may be caused. want to know whether their system of But you have a statement given to the life will be so radically changed that n::wspapers saying, "English will not old employees will have to be dismissed b.'! accepted", unqualified statement and new employees, who know the that English will not be accepted after Malay Language, will have to be 31st August. Mr Speaker, Sir, there­ employed-because, Mr Speaker, Sir, fore, I think it was right and proper, if a commercial firm is not allowed to or should have been right and proper, correspond in English, at least teinpo­ for the Cabinet to advise His Majesty rarily, with Government Departments, to give a clarifying statement in His then necessarily the majority of them Majesty's Speech as to what is going to will either have to dismiss their present be the position on the 1st of September clerks because the majority cannot cor­ this year. respond in the Malay Language, or they will have to pay them and keep Could a citizen of this country write them there and employ additional staff a letter to the Land Office, or to the to deal with correspondence and let State Government, or even to the Prime these people sleep at their tables. I do Minister himself in the English Langu­ not think any employer is going to do age? Would that letter be considered, that; he will possibly dismiss the old would it receive a reply like a letter employees and employ new ones who written in the National Language? can speak the Malay language. What Obviously the answer to that is "No", is the position going to be? You are if the last statement by the Honourable going to cause more ill-feeling, more Attorney-General is considered the trouble, more discontent and, perhaps, authoritative statement. But if we con­ then you will say, "Oh! They are not sider the explanations given by the loyal, because they do not stand up at Attorney-General at the various public the cinema when the National Anthem s:::s~ions, then the answer will be "Yes". is played". Mr Speaker, Sir, you win Now, which is it? This matter was loyalty by giving a fair chance to the rais:!d, I think, in the press, in edito­ citizens of this country. You do not win rials, in correspondence particularly loyalty by legislating for it. I do hope by the Straits Echo; the Editor, Mr that in the implementation of the Sarvanamuthu, brought out a two­ language Act, which we do not accept, column editorial saying, "Where are we and which we have declared we do not going to if from the 1st of September accept, but if it is a law, of course we letters in English are not being con­ will have to follow it until we can sidered and will not be replied?" I change it and until we get the power think it is vital that a statement in this to change it, I do hope that with Clause House be made clarifying the position (3) inserted there and other Clauses, whether a citizen can write a letter the escape Clause, which the Govern­ to a Government Department in Eng­ ment sought and widely sought, per­ lis:1-leave alone the other languages­ haps. I hope the implementation will after the 1st of September and whether be such that the necessity of people to that letter will be considered and be dismissed on their posts will not whether he will receive a reply. Mr arise. I hope it will be so enforced that Speaker, Sir, where things are left in Government servants, who cannot write 679 16 JUNE 1967 680 in Malay-and there are a large number them as hooligans? Mr Speaker, Sir, of them who cannot write and who the demonstrators concerned in demon­ cannot translate a letter in Malay­ strations against the conditions of de­ those clerks will not be superfluous tention at the Detention Camp at Batu receiving public monies as salaries Gajah, again, are the citizens of this doing nothing in return not because of country, who have a right to demon­ their own fault but because somebody strate peacefully. wants to implement something in a manner which is not suitable at this Now, what happened after Bukit stage of the country's progress. I do Asahan demonstrations? Karam Singh hope that a categorial statement will be was arrested; Mr Karam Singh, a given assuring the country that "Corres­ former Member of this House, who pondence in English will be accepted", just returned from India, was arrested. even though your forms may be in What are the grounds the Government Malay, the answers in those forms even gives for his detention? Outstanding if they are in English are acceptable grounds are he condemned the Internal and correspondence will be acceptable Security laws and asked for their for a long time more to come. Other­ repeal; he asked for the release of one wise, there is going to be an upheaval of those who was detained; he made not only in the Government Service but a speech at such and such a place in every public and private sector in advocating the withdrawal of foreign this country. troops from Malaysian soil: He connived with the attempt to set up a Mr Speaker, Sir, in Malaysia, in the rebel Government of Malaysia. Mr past year, there have been strikes, there Speaker, Sir, reading those grounds, have been demonstrations, there have one will wonder. Since when has it been, regrettably, killing of demonstra­ become an offence, or an act of trai­ tors and injuries on both sides-Police torism, or an act prejudicial to the and demonstrators. Mr. Speaker, Sir, safety of this country to say "I do not arising out of these demonstrations, like the Internal Security laws, I am Mr Karam Singh was arrested. We will going to campaign for their revoca­ deal with that in a moment. Now, the tion"? When has it become an act of right to demonstrate cannot be denied traitorism to say, "I do not like the to a citizen. Any democracy which white man's army in this country, get denies the right to demonstrate ceases it out of this country"? When has that to be a democracy. In this country, the become subversive? When has it right to demonstrate is controlled by become an offence to say, "Release requirements of licences for various that man who is detained because I purposes to bring a demonstration with­ think he is innocent, or bring him to in the four corners of the law. But, Mr trial"? Where is the act of traitorism Speaker, Sir, the freedom of man, the in those things? will to be free, can never be sup­ On the question of Indonesia, Enche' pressed. I myself feel that the demon­ Boestamam is released. So many others strations, as they are carried out now are released, who are more implicated by certain sections, are futile demon­ on the Indonesian issue, if Govern­ strations. They benefit nobody, they ment's statements are correct, than cause trouble to the demonstrators and Karam Singh himself. Peace has come they give a chance to the Government between Indonesia and Malaysia. to say, "Well, you see, these are the Unless the badminton incident sets up things happening. That is why we need another confrontation, there is peace. all these strict, severe security laws". If these gentlemen could be released, But to call these demonstrators what is the justification for arresting "hooligans", I say is the height of Karam Singh at this stage on the impertinence. Are the Bukit Asahan ground that he was one of those who workers who demonstrated by walking actively assisted in this talk about a hooligans? They are workers, and rebel Government for Malaysia? Mr 90% of the population of this country Speaker, Sir, beyond that, there is are workers, and who dares to brand nothing which the Government can put 681 16 JUNE 1967 682 up against Karam Singh. We may agree Court at Kuala Lumpur where hundreds with his policies; we may not agree of rioters were charged, where they with his policies; his policies may be made a noise, where they behaved in some good, some bad. But what we a riotous manner. When the Magistrate are interested is this: why arrest a man had dealt with the case they were to go and lock him up without trial when home. What did the Riot Squad do? you have no grounds to do so? I say They lined up the whole place with no the people of Malaysia view with the exit for these hundreds of people, who gravest suspicion the arrest of Mr were in a nasty temper then, and it was Karam Singh. And I have asked this imminent that there was going to be a Government, and I ask again, "Pro­ clash between Police and those who duce a White Paper on Enche' Karam came to the Court to be charged. But, Singh, so that we can be satisfied that fortunately, there was one man who his detention is on just and valid used his brain-the President of the grounds, or bring him to Court, if you Sessions Court. He told the Riot have the evidence and charge him there, Squad : "You stand aside, these people so that he can defend himself''. You will go home." The Riot Squad stood must do one or the other, because the aside and these people went home grounds as published by you are so without any incident having taken place flimsy and so frivolous that we will at Court Hill. You block the whole soon be the laughing stock of the area, you do not give them an exit and world on the question of the freedom then you say, "You go home". If they of the individuals in this country. walk that side, there are rows of Riot Mr Speaker, Sir, the seconder of the Squad men. They walk this way, there Motion tried to tell this House and the is another row of Riot Squad men. people of Malaysia that the rioters­ They walk that way, there is another as he puts it "the hooligans"-were the Riot Squad. How do you expect them ones who upset the hawkers' tables and to go home? chairs, I suppose, and destroyed the Mr Speaker, Sir, on the sit-down business of the people and they were strike at the Batu Gajah Detention the trouble-makers. Mr Speaker, Sir, Camp, perhaps, I know a little more where you are interfering with the about it than some Members of this democratic right to walk along the House. It all started when the detainees streets of this country, then you are were allowed out of their cells for asking for chaos to be created on the exercise and the normal recreation. streets. How did the Riot Unit behave When they were asked to go back by on these occasions? Did they behave the warders, they refused to go back, with restraint? Did they behave with alleging a number of points on which commonsense? There was the glaring they were dissatisfied and they sought example of the shooting of that boy remedies. The warders tried to put when President Johnson visited this them back and there ensued a scuffle. country. By the subsequent actions of The warders were unable to put them the Police, in more serious riots they back into the cells. That part is true. did not fire a single shot. Why then on Immediately, the Riot Squad or the that occasion they fired that shot and Reserve Unit was called in to Batu killed that innocent boy at the Lincoln Gajah from Ipoh. The Riot Squad went Memorial Centre? Why have they not into the Batu Gajah Prison and used shot now? Because they have realised force. There was a battle, or there was that shooting is wrong, that tear gas an assault rather, between the detainees can disperse crowds as effectively as and the Reserve Unit. Several detainees shooting. were injured and I have no doubt Mr Speaker, Sir, but that is not the perhaps some of the Reserve Unit were only example, if I may say, of the also injured. But what is amazing is stupidity of the Riot Squad in dis­ this. Why did the Government try to persing rioting crowds. What more suppress all this? Did the Reserve Unit example do you want than the one use more force than was necessary? which happened in the Magistrate's Did they unnecessarily break heads? 683 16 JUNE 1967 684

Why did they try to suppress something or for worse, will continue to demon­ which was perhaps nothing? By doing strate. It is obvious that there are ~o. the Government draws suspicion to sections of this community, and I do the relatives of those detained to such not support them by saying that they an extent th~t they felt their relations are doing right, but there are large were manhandled, severely beaten up sections which think that the democratic in the Detention Camp at Batu Gajah. process of the battle of words, of reason Why is it that this Government was so and commonsense is gone. They think slow in allowing their relatives to go that the time has come when the only and see them? They have the whole way this Government will listen is by Reserve Unit there. What can these few outward show of resentment and when relations do? What trouble can they that time comes of course the men of create if you let them get in to see that violence, the subversives that you speak their relations have not been injured? of, the communists that you speak of, What was the necessity to create that they will take advantage of it, and the atmosphere of apprehension and men of violence will come out and danger? Why was it necessary for organise violence using these people, doctors to go into the Batu Gajah who honestly believe that they are only Detention Camp almost in secrecy to showing an outward expression of treat perhaps minor injuries on persons resentment. The situation should not who were injured. What was the need be allowed to deteriorate. The Govern­ to do all this in secret? Did something ment must take the position in hand, happen which we do not know, some­ reconsider what it has been doing in the thing more sinister than what we know past, reconsider all the injustice that ourselves? Those were the causes which has been created, reconsider the led up to the demonstrations in this question of how to deal with citizens country on the question of the Batu of this country, bumiputras and non­ Gajah Detention Camp. bumiputras, see that all are given an Mr Speaker, Sir, I do hope that the equal and decent chance in the society Police will realise that the freedom to before it is too late. demonstrate is already restricted to Mr Speaker, Sir, it is ten years, and such an extent, and that in their we are soon coming to another election enforcement of Police regulations it is to this House, but one wonders what is necessary to use a degree of common­ happening, what has happened to sense, as was used by the President of elections generally. What has happened that Court although it was not his duty. to Local Council elections? The Com­ He saw the situation and he realised mission has not produced its report yet. that it was a stupid situation created by Mr Speaker, Sir, it is I think, a the Riot Squad on that occasion. I do matter of regret that the Honourable not say he said that, but those are my the Prime Minister, when he moved for comments. He obviously must have the suspension of local elections, realised that if you want these people announced at that same sitting that to go home peacefully, you give them they will be restored immediately on an exit to go home first. Otherwise they the ending of confrontation. Mr Speaker, cannot go home. Sir, on that assurance being given, I Mr Speaker, Sir, if the Police will think, the Opposition cut short the use a degree of commonsense then debate and, in fact, did not violently these demonstrations, whether legal or attack the suspension of local elections, illegal, can be dispersed without undue because it was on the ground that it excitement and without undue harm to was dangerous to hold elections at a various persons in this country. Mr time when confrontation would cause Speaker Sir I do ask that the Minister chaos at public rallies and meetings. concern~d ~ill review the question with Mr Speaker, Sir, that assurance ~as not regard to dispersal of demonstrations, been fulfilled. It cannot be sa1d that because as time goes on, from what we because the Commission of Inquiry has can see. there is no doubt that elements been appointed, then the assurance in this country, good or bad, for better given to this House has been by virtue 685 16 JUNE 1967 686 of the fact negatived. I say it must be that was the question of education. restored, local elections must be held Primary education is free. Primary forthwith in this country because education today costs the father much though we sit in local councils now, we more than it costs him when it was not are there only as statutory bodies. I am free. That is the situation in this sure it is not the intention of Govern­ country. Today, he has to pay for so ment or any reasonable society to have many things in the school, not volun­ such statutory bodies for longer than is tarily but compulsorily : he pays much necessary. Mr Speaker, Sir, I hope more for the education of his primary before 1969, the decision will be made school child than when he had to pay that local elections will be restored at school fees. I think that situation is all levels in this country. intolerable. It has got to be stopped. Mr Speaker, Sir, the Honourable He has to pay $3 for a tie; he has to Member who seconded the Motion pay so many dollars for this society, spoke on leases for lands in new so many dollars for that society, so villages. Mr Speaker, Sir, this matter much for another society, and ulti­ has been spoken of by Members of the mately he finds today, that he pays M.C.A. very often but only when an almost double of what he paid before. election is around the corner. Everytime Mr Speaker, Sir, it is not only that, and an election comes. the M.C.A. says, this practice must be stopped. If a "Now, we want leases for our new child is unable to take the money to villages". Then they carry on the cam­ school on the appointed day-there is paign. When the election is over, no­ at least one school doing it and I body speaks about the leases. The won't mention it now-the child is Honourable Member for Kampar, the made to stand in the sun for a few Seconder of the Motion, has now hours, because he cannot take the started talking about leases. For his money to school on that day because information. several leases have already the father just has not got the money to been given out in the Ipoh/Menglembu give so many children on the same day. area-Gunong Rapat, Kampong Simi, Such a report was made to the Ministry. Guntong and various areas where the But the latest information I got is that Opposition not only makes it a political that practice has not ceased. I am not issue of unfortunate new village, but blaming the Ministry here. I am only goes to the root of the matter and bringing it to its attention and I think campaigns for the issue of leases a circular should be sent out that if throughout the period when they are children cannot pay the money on the capable of having it. I suggest that if day appointed, there should be no Members of this House want leases to punishment of that type. They should be issued to new villages, they should communicate with the parents, see that take it up with the State Governments. something is done, and time is given to Go and see them, get them to do it. pay. Fifty cents, $1, $3, may not be big You are in a much easier position than to some, but it is a big sum of money we are but if we can do it, I suggest, to an ordinary working man with, you can do it just as well and not use perhaps, six or seven children to this as a political propaganda weapon support in school. I ask that immediate on the unfortunate Chinese dweller in a action be taken to stop that practice in new village because he is certainly not this country. going to be fooled by you saying, Mr C. V. Devan Nair (B~): "M.C.A. wants leases for you, but sorry Mr Speaker, Sir, the trouble with the we can't get it." You can get it, if you Royal Address to Parliament this year want to get it-but I suggest the M.C.A. is not that it should have attempted to wants to use it only as a political paper over the cracks, as it were. All weapon just when an election is around governments do that, and our Govern­ the corner. Otherwise there is no ment is no exception to the general explanation why you cannot get it. rule. Mr Speaker, Sir, there was other What troubles me is that so many matter which I wish to bring up and wide and gaping cracks should have 687 16 JUNE 1967 688 been completely ignored, their very How Indonesia will go is anybody's existence practically denied. The truth, guess, but the fact remains that if that as it appears to many intelligent nation fails to pull itself up by its Malaysian eyes is that the national bootstraps, her neighbours, sooner or wall is made up of an extremely intri­ later, must once again get into a cate pattern of cracks, small and big, panicky state. Small but relatively all slowly widening. Indeed, it would affluent Malaysia cannot long co-exist appear that before long, bits of wall in comfort and security when she is plaster must come tumbling down, to surrounded by the hungry multitudes of be followed later by larger and larger Indonesia or of the rest of South East chunks of wall. Asia. Only Malaysians, Sir, with the death­ The bloody conflict in Vietnam con­ wish upon them can gloat over all this. tinues to escalcate and once the point But for those of us who think that this of no return is reached, it must mean country has more than a fighting World War Three. chance to survive unscathed, with our political values intact, and with our In a matter of only four days, economic and social standards also recently, the balance of power in the intact, and improving, in what is poten­ Middle East was altered beyond tially the most turbulent region of a recognition, and the hate-ridden atmos­ troubled and very swiftly-changing phere of that region contains within world; to those of us who think that itself the seeds of a worldwide there is a fighting. chance for national cataclysm. survival, the widening cracks in the The developed nations of Western national wall give no cause for satis­ Europe, on the other hand, find them­ faction. selves released by the Sino-Soviet rift I said that we have more than a from the military and economic threat fighting chance to survive but the dis­ posed by a united and monolithic tressing thought is that with every world communist movement-that passing year, with every internal or danger is no longer there-therefore international setback, and with every they retreat more and more into new example of political or economic themselves in selfish isolation. One blundering on the part of the nation's current mood in Western Europe, leaders, our chances diminish. which I visited recently, appears to be, A look at the world around us, Sir, "We are quite all right. Let Africa go gives no cause for comfort and security. hang, let South-East Asia go hang. In the past one year alone, portentous Come to think of it, we can even do changes have taken place all round us. without the Americans. Let us live in China is convulsed by a frightening our common market and let the rest of forment of nearly lunatic proportions, the world take care of itself". and the pressures generated in that vast Great Britain has realised that it is country could portend ill for the peace no longer great, and appears to have of the rest of the world. irrevocably embarked on a two-fold India shows more and more signs of policy of gradually shedding her political, social and eonomic anemia, defence load in South-East Asia and and the great Indian experiment in turning her face determinedly to the political democracy which began so European Economic Community. hopefully, under the most auspicious Dreading the threatened removal of signs twenty years ago, today totters the British defence forces and the weakly on spindly legs, with incalcul­ British defence umbrella over South­ able consequences for the future of East Asia, the Australians and New democratic values in Asia. Zealanders chew their finger nails in The Hukbalahak revival in the trepidation and hope desperately that Philippines does not speak well for the Americans might agree to fill the economic or political progress in that vacuum in the 1970s. But the Ameri­ region. cans, who are already suffering in 689 16 JUNE 1967 690 Vietnam an average daily casualty rate like Malaysia must face in an increas­ of more than 2,000 G.Is, know that ingly difficult and very rapidly chang­ they will be embarrassed, both at home ing world. One wonders whether they and abroad, if they took on new com­ have worked out in their own minds a mitments. They, therefore, prefer at the system and order of priorities in both moment to try to pressurise the national and international affairs. British, if possible, into remaining. Much, Sir, can and will be forgiven the Now, Sir, right or wrong, and for leaders of this nation, if they did good or for ill, such would appear to possess such essential wisdom. But be the broad picture of surrounding nothing can or will be forgiven them, international circumstances for Malay­ if it eventually turns out that they never sia. The first fact to drive home to our did possess anything of the kind. people, people of all communities, and Relations with Singapore is a case to members of all political parties, is in point. Here are two small nation, this: We can no longer live sheltered with so much in common, facing much lives, enjoying our relative prosperity the same uncertainties, and likely to indefinitely, under a protective defence become the common victims of the umbrella. same set of international forces and The world is in transition, and most circumstances, but behaving like frogs important for us, Asia as a whole, and in a well. Being frogs in a well is bad South-East Asia in particular, is in enough, but being quarrelling frogs in transition. It would be a comfort, of the same well is absolutely incredible! course, to know precisely where we are The sixty-year-old common currency all transiting to. We do not. And has been broken up. Passports, it neither: does anybody else. We might seems, for travel between the two be transiting to a new international territories will soon be introduced. And balance and accommodation, in which economically, both countries show a case we, as a nation, must find our­ readiness to cut off their noses in order selves a worthy and an honourable to spite their faces. We can ask, in all place in that new balance and accom­ sincerity, whether such behaviour can modation, whatever it might be; or we be deemed to constitute wisdom by any might be transiting into a generally standards whatsoever. One would have dark age for Asia; but even then, the thought that co-operation between the people of this country must realise that two territories would have been a sturdy, united and self-reliant nation dictated by sheer self-interest alone, if can somehow manage to survive. by nothing else. Finally, we might be in transition towards World War Three, in which Sir. history has repeatedly shown that case we can do nothing but pray. only those nations and peoples survive There are so many imponderables in and prosper which show a capacity for the situation facing this country that no cohesion, self-respect and sturdy self­ prophet, neither the Alliance, nor the reliance. A small nation like Malaysia D.A.P. nor Labour, nor the P.P.P. can surrounded by hostile or unfavourable honestly attempt to predict the future. international circumstances, must deli­ But the most fearsome imponderable of berately and systematically cultivate all is whether the political leadership precisely these virtues if it is to survive of our multi-racial nation will possess as a viable economic and political the wisdom, capacity and sagacity to entity. keep this nation alive and to steer it If we are to achieve national cohe­ safely through the troubled waters of sion and solidarity in our multi-racial the future. The conduct of the Alliance nation, then it is basic and funda­ leadership thus far gives room for mental that, first of all, we get our serious doubt on this score. principles of nation-building correct. One wonders whether the rulers of And these principles of nation-building this nation are even dimly aware of the in a multi-racial society must in appli­ difficulties of survival a small nation cation and effect lead to an increasing 691 16 JUNE 1967 692 sense of a common national identity ment has at last become aware of the and consciousness among our multi­ vital importance of financial discipline racial people. after years of financial dissipation; that Now, Sir, can we look into our hearts that Government has at last become and souls and honestly say that this aware of the need for financial disci­ has been done, that we have achieved pline, is most encouraging, because it? I submit that we cannot. Can I without financial discipline, as His plead that it is not to late, even now, Majesty's Address pointed out, a satis­ to try and do these things? Can we factory rate of economic growth cannot plead that it is really vital, for the be achieved. Last year's Budget was Government to find out why this has in deficit even on current account. We not been achieved, this national cohe­ . might safely assume that the deficit in sion and sense of solidarity, and what the 1967 Estimates will greatly exceed defects and shortcomings in our edu­ $29 million, which was the figure esti­ cational, cultural, social and political mated in January. Even our redoubtable policies might be rectified or removed, Finance Minister, Sir, has confessed in order to achieve this cardinal aim of that he will not find it possible to attaining a cohesive society, self­ raise taxation in 1968 by as much as reliant, independent. That is the only he did in 1967. Whether it will at all way in which we can survive in a be possible in the foreseeable future world which it not going to get easier to get back to surplus budgets is a and easier, but a world in which things highly dubious matter. But the Govern­ are going to get tremendously difficult ment's determination to practise rigo­ all round. If it is agreed that the rous financial discipline is still praise­ achievement of national solidarity and worthy, if only because it is vital not cohesion is a basic and fundamental to have too alarming a deficit. It is to be hoped that the Finance Minister's goal of national policy, then members insistence on financial discipline will in of the Alliance Government must firmly fact, and there is some doubt on this and categorically refuse to respond in score, be shared by all his other future to any temptation to play to the Government colleagues. racialist gallery, or to succumb to communal lobbies. While succumbing If national co-operation is sought to to such temptation might bring the implement the rigorous measures of temporary euphoria of a very transient financial discipline which the Govern­ political success, it would in the long ment seems to have in mind, then it is run mean providing hostages to for­ important to show that this discipline, tune, where the task of nation-building Sir, is exercised from the top down­ is concerned. wards. The man in the street cannot feel obliged to tighten his belt, if he It cannot be too strongly emphasised finds that there is no similar tightening that our strongest line of defence of belts in the top echelons of society against communism, or against any and if he finds that on the contrary, form of subversion, must be and can there is a loosening of belts in the top only be the creation of national echelons of society. cohesion and solidarity. If we failed, I said just now that we would be pro­ It is difficult to avoid the impression viding hostages to fortune, but to put that the success of the National Deve­ it more bluntly, Sir, and more brutally, lopment Plan is somewhat exaggerated. The fall in commodity prices, the we would be providing hostages to the diminished outlay on the Malaysian communists who are waiting in the Development Plan to the tune of about wings, watching for our failures. Ano­ $163 million below the estimated ther equally vital and important line of five-year average for 1966, the dis­ defence against internal dangers must appointment with regard to the volume be progress and stability on the of technical assistance from overseas, economic front. and the still relatively modest contri­ Sir, it is gratifying to note from His bution of domestic manufacturers to Majesty's Address that the Govern- the national economy, must all have 693 16 JUNE 1967 694 variously and adversely affected the serious and that there must be drastic national development programme. curbs on recurrent expenditure, and I It must also be admitted, Sir, that quote : "a real increase in productivity the diversification of the economy has and efficiency in all fields of human not proceeded as fast as it should. The endervour". But as to how all these price of rubber is already low, but if challenges are to be met, all these it should go even below 50 cents, then challenges to the nation's survival are the economy of the country will really to be met, there does not appear to be begin to go haywire, unless we have much of a clue in His Majesty's managed in the meanwhile to shift the Address, or in the Appendix to his basis of our economy to a much more Address. significant extent than we have There is some fulmination against managed to achieve so far. labour but not much indication as to In the absence, Sir, of any statistical how the co-operation of labour is to be information, it is impossible to gauge won. It is needless to say, Sir, that the extent of unemployment and under­ such co-operation has to be won, and employment in West Malaysia. And, just cannot be enforced, in the same in the absence of such information it way, Sir, that the Honourable Member must be difficult for our economic for Ipoh just now insisted that you planners and policy makers to deter­ must win loyalty and that loyalty and mine priorities in economic planning. patriotism cannot be legislated into In view of the fact that pioneer indus­ being. try, Sir, including the factories still to go into production, are providing only His Majesty's Address, Sir, deals 20,000 jobs, and also considering the with the continued communist threat dislocation arising from the fragmenta­ to the nation. There is little doubt that this threat is real and is growing. There tion of estates, it can very safely be is, however, a great deal of doubt as assumed that there is, in fact, that there must have been a most alarming to whether the communist threat is increase in the extent of unemploy­ being countered effectively at the poli­ ment. tical level. It is sometimes possible, Sir, to meet the communist threat in a No statistical information is avail­ manner which is counter productive able, either, to determine changes in of good results. It seems to me that the per capita income of the Malay the Government's insistence on suitabi­ peasantry. It must be agreed that it is lity certificates, for instance, for admis­ only on the basis of such information sion to higher seats of learning, serves that it would be possible to decide as a good example of a counter pro­ whether, in fact, the Government has ductive measure. made any headway in dealing with the problem of Malay poverty. Let me state, Sir, that I am not concerned about what a neighbouring With regard to the advancement of State like Singapore does or does not do the Malays, which is vital to the eradi­ in this respect, but it does seem to me cation of economic imbalance in the that the insistence on suitability certi­ country, His Majesty's Address, unfor­ ficates is humiliating and unnecessary, tunately, does not contain any indica­ in view of the fact that the infiltration tion as to what the Government of subversive elements into our higher proposes to do in order to encourage centres of learning can easily be elimi­ and secure the direction of Malay stu­ nated under the existing laws of the dents to modem subjects like science, land. It is really necessary to regularly technology and medicine. and yearly humiliate numerous respect­ All in all, there is a lack of balance able families by obliging them to apply and of ballast in the Royal Address for certificates of suitability for their this year. The Address, Sir, is remark­ sons and daughters, so that they may able only for the welcome awareness enter our higher centres of learning? on the part of Government that This measure has been proved by financial stringency is getting more experience to be clearly and positively 695 16 JUNE 1967 696 counter productive, and the Govern­ enhance Malaysia's security in the ment, Sir, would be well advised to do South East Asian context. away with it and to seek more rational I hate to use, Sir, a well-worn cliche, ways of keeping the University campus but Malaysia does stand at the cross­ free from subversive threats. roads of history. The old certainties and Mr (Deputy) Speaker: How long are securities are gone. To guide us safely you going to take to end your speech? forward we must seek, and seek with a sense of the utmost urgency, for the Tuan C. V. Devan Nair: I am most effective ways and means to coming towards the end. establish and consolidate national cohesion and solidarity in a multi­ Mr (Deputy) Speaker: How many racial society and to ensure our minutes more? economic viability and progress. Whether we will succeed in this effort Tuan C. V. Devan Nair: Another or not will depend on the maturity, three or four minutes. wisdom, intelligence and resolution Mr (Deputy) Speaker: Yes, continue. which the leaders of our nation can muster. Let us all hope, Sir, even if Tuan C. V. Devan Nair: Another hope sometimes seems altogether encouraging factor in the Royal Address unjustified, that they will show them­ is the apparent deterniination of the selves capable of rising to the occasion. Government to come to more serious For if they don't, we are all sunk, Sir, grips with corruption. Venality in public in any case. life and corruption in public admini­ stration have proved to be the begin­ Mr (Deputy) Speaker: Persidangan ini ning of most inglorious ends for many di-tanggohkan sa-lama 10 minit. developing countries. It is to be Sitting suspended at 5.20 p.m. sincerely hoped that the Government's new-found determination to stamp out Sitting resumed at 5.40 p.m. corruption will be translated into effective practice. It is also to be hoped (Mr (Deputy) Speaker in the Chair) that no one who is guilty will be spared-not even those who today Debates resumed. might move in the highest ranks of the Government. One way, Sir, of really Tuan Baron bin Abdullah (Baling): ensuring that the Government's new Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya juga ber­ determination is translated into effective sama2 dengan Ahli2 Yang Berhormat practice would be to demand that Heads yang lain menguchapkan terima kaseh of Departments and senior officials in di-atas uchapan Titah Duli Yang Maha charge of sensitive departments, like Mulia Seri Paduka Baginda Yang di­ Customs, Supplies and so forth, should Pertuan Agong pada hari Rabu kel­ be asked to declare their assets and marin. Uchapan titah Baginda itu telah from then on a tab should be kept on pun menyentoh beberapa segi hal2 di­ them. It would, of course, be very much dalam negeri dan di-luar negeri. Saya better indeed and be the cause of chuba mengambil bahagian perba­ hathan dalam uchapan Titah ini ia-lah increasing confidence all round, if the 2 members of the Cabinet themselves mengena1 sa-mata hal di-dalam negeri. decided to declare their assets. Pertama sa-kali yang berhubong It is to be regretted, Sir, that His dengan iktisad negara kita yang mana Majesty's Address did not give much telah pun banyak di-perkatakan di­ infonnation about the Government's dalam uchapan Titah itu. Kemajuan intentions with regard to the creation iktisad dalam negara kita ini walau of a new and enlarged regional align­ pun telah di-akui dalam uchapan ment for economic co-operation in Titah itu mengatakan yang basil pen­ South East Asia. A stable and enduring dapatan negara kita bertambah dan grouping for regional economic co­ hasil tiap2 diri sa-orang itu telah pun operation would certainly serve to bertambah. Hari ini ternyata kita 697 16 JUNE 1967 698 dapati dalam perubahan yang telah parah lagi kehidupan mereka itu. Jadi di-buat oleh Kerajaan Perikatan dalam saya harap-lah perkara ini akan men­ masa 10 tahun yang lalu khas-nya di­ dapat perhatian daripada pehak Kera­ dalam lapangan kemajuan luar bandar jaan walau apa jalan sa-kali pun. yang telah pun di-jalankan oleh Kera­ Berkenaan dengan pemechahan jaan dengan pesat-nya. Dalam pada itu 2 ladang getah, pagi tadi telah ada soalan pun ada terdapat sa-bahagian perkara daripada sa-orang Ahli Yang Berhor­ yang terpaksa yang patut di-perbaiki mat daripada pehak Kerajaan telah lagi. berchakap. Akibat daripada penjualan Kedudokan ra'ayat kita pada hari ladang getah yang besar ini buroh2 ini walau pun sa-bahagian besar telah yang bekerja dalam ladang itu tidak pun bemasib baik, tetapi ada lagi sa­ mendapat pembelaan nasib mereka. bahagian kechil yang kurang bemasib Segala pentadbiran ladang itu akan baik, biar-lah saya kemukakan dalam berubah chorak dan sa-bahagian dari­ Dewan ini mudahan2 akan mendapat pada pekerja-nya di-rentikan dengan perhatian Kerajaan. Yang pertama sa­ bagitu sahaja. Jadi hal ini sangat-lah kali saya bawa ka-pengetahuan Dewan menyusahkan kapada pekerja2 ladang ini berkenaan dengan nasib penoreh2 itu. 2 getah yang bekerja dengan pekebun Saya suka mengshorkan kapada kechil dan juga nasib penoreh2 getah, 2 Kerajaan, jika boleh, jangan di-biarkan ladang2 mereka yang telah di-pechah - tuan punya ladang itu menjual, walau kan akibat daripada penjualan tanah pun hak kebebasan-nya ada kapada ladang chara besar-besaran yang pada mereka itu, ya'ani memberi kebebasan dahulu-nya di-mileki oleh modal2 luar 2 menjual dan membeli, demi menjaga terutama sa-kali daripada ladang kepentingan buroh dan ekonomi negara. Eropah. Sa-patut-nya pada masa mereka hendak Dengan kejatohan harga getah hari menarek balek modal daripada harga ini yang menunjokkan pendapatan ladang itu keluar negeri ini atau pun penoreh2 getah di-kampong2, yang ha­ menggunakan modal itu dalam pernia­ nya mendapat perolehan-nya $3, $2, gaan2 yang lain patut-lah Kerajaan sahaja sa-hari dan kadang2 kurang mengadakan satu undang2 yang boleh daripada itu. Saya sendiri tidak dapat menjamin kebaikan buroh dan eko­ hendak memberi jalan bagaimana nomi negara kita. hendak memperbaiki nasib mereka itu. Sa-kira-nya Kerajaan sendiri pada hari Hal ini patut-lah akan dapat perhatian ini boleh membuka Ranchangan2 Kema­ Kerajaan. Penoreh2 getah, pekebun2 ke­ juan Tanah Persekutuan (F.L.D.A.), chil ini, mereka itu bukan-lah men­ saya ingat tidak-lah menjadi satu dapat gaji tetap, mereka hanya men­ kepayahan atau pun satu halangan sa­ dapat upahan sechara pawah bagi dua kira-nya ladang2 yang hendak di-jual daripada tuan punya kebun itu. Me­ itu di-beli oleh Kerajaan dengan chara reka ini merasa pedeh sekali peng­ Undang2, tetapi bukan-lah terpaksa hidupan mereka sa-kira-nya pada ke­ kita mengikut harga yang di-tetapkan tika itu musim hujan. Mereka juga oleh penjual itu. Harga2 ladang yang mempunyai tanggongan yang banyak, 2 akan di-beli tadi hendak-lah di-tetap­ anak pinak mereka itu kadang me­ kan oleh Kerajaan dengan 'adil dengan reka itu tidak dapat makan sa­ 2 2 kerana tuan punya ladang itu mereka bagaimana orang yang lain . telah pun membuat beberapa banyak J adi walau pun telah ada dalam keuntongan semenjak berpuloh2 tahun uchapan Titah Duli Yang Maha Mulia yang lalu. Jadi pada masa ini, saya itu berhubong dengan pekerja2 Kera­ ra.sa sampai-lah ketika-nya Kerajaan jaan yang memberi jaminan insuran mengkaji sa-mula berkenaan dengan dan sa-bagai-nya tetapi sebalek-nya jualan kebun2 getah yang besar2 itu. nasib penoreh2 getah itu tidak-lah Dengan ini dapat-lah terjamin-sa­ siapa2 yang akan dapat menjamin. Jadi kira-nya Kerajaan mengambil aleh atau dengan kejatohan harga getah yang pun membeli ladang2 itu-dapat-lah sekarang ini menjadi2 sangat makin terjamin pekerja2 ladang itu daripada 699 16 JUNE 1967 700 menderita kehidupan mereka. Dan lain, sa-umpama bertukang, berniaga chara2 hendak mengator sa-mula dan sa-bagai-nya, maka telah tiba-lah ladang itu kapada pekerja2, boleh-lah masa-nya Kerajaan mengkaji dengan kita lakukan sa-bagaimana yang kita tetiti-nya hal ini. Sa-kira-nya kita tidak lakukan di-dalam ranchangan tanah kaji atas dasar itu, neschaya satu masa F.L.D.A. juga. Tetapi perkara ini saya ka-satu masa, pemuda2 Melayu akan rasa hendak-lah Kerajaan kita dengan tidak dapat kita mengawal semangat berani dan tegas menjalankan dasar. mereka itu. Boleh jadi pemuda2 ini Sa-kira-nya kita tidak berani menjalan­ akan beraleh haluan mereka itu kapada kan dasar2 kita yang tegas dalam masa­ fe'el yang kita sendiri tidak ingini. alah ini tentu-lah kehidupan buroh2 2 2 Dalam negeri K,edah, saya dapati getah dalam estate atau ladang itu 2 tidak akan terjamin. banyak lagi hutan simpanan yang ber­ hampiran dengan kampong2-mungkin Perkara ini telah pun bertalu2 kita Menteri yang berkenaan dalam Dewan dengar, sama ada melalui surat2 kha­ ini akan menjawab perkara ini kuasa­ bar, sama ada melalui rombongan2 nya di-dalam Kerajaan Negeri-saya 2 berjumpa dengan Menteri kita atau sendiri sedar perkara itu. Sa~tengah 2 pun dengan orang yang bertanggong­ hutan simpan bertumpu pada kampong jawab dalam perkara ini, tetapi penye­ mereka itu sendiri yang sangat sesuai lesaian-nya sa-hingga hari ini kita untok tanaman2. Tetapi dengan sebab belum dapat terima atau pun dapat ra'ayat ta'at kapada undang2, mereka kita lihat dengan puas hati. itu tidak akan pechah peratoran itu. Sa-lain daripada itu, saya suka-lah Tetapi kebanyakan daripada ra'ayat2 juga berchakap bersangkut dengan hari ini terutama sa-kali yang ber­ seruan2 daripada Kerajaan, ia-itu hampiran dengan hutan2 simpan itu, hendak membanyakkan tanaman2 ter­ mereka telah merayu kapada Kerajaan utama sa-kali tanaman kelapa sawit, sama ada bersurat, sama ada melalui tetapi sa-bahagian2 negeri sahaja yang Wakil2 Ra'ayat, telah memohonkan ada lagi mempunyai tanah yang boleh supaya di-keluarkan sa-bahagian2 kechil di-sediakan untok tanaman itu. Barang­ daripada hutan simpan ini. kali dalam negeri Pahang yang tanah­ Di-dalam negeri Kedah kemajuan nya luas dan sadikit di-negeri Perak. 2 menanam kelapa sawit yang di­ Tetapi negeri lain, sa-umpama negeri anjorkan oleh Kerajaan boleh di­ Kedah, Perlis dan juga Pulau Pinang, 2 katakan tiada langsong, walau pun Sa-berang Perai, tanah2 di-negeri ini terdapat dalam negeri Johor, Treng­ telah lama kehabisan-yang ada sadikit ganu, Selangor dan Perak. Ini satu pun hanya-lah tanah hutan simpanan 2 perkara yang saya rasa tidak berapa sa-mata . Boleh-kah dengan banyak adil, patut-lah pehak Kerajaan, ter­ penganggor2 kita dan pun orang2 yang 2 utama sa-kali Yang Amat Berhormat berkehendakkan tanah dengan sa-mata Menteri Pembangunan Negara dan berharap kapada tanah negeri Pahang Luar Bandar menimbangkan supaya sahaja? Jadi saya suka-lah menyeru satu dua tempat dalam negeri Kedah kapada Menteri Tanah dan Galian, ini di-adakan ranchangan menanam dapat menasehatkan Kerajaan negeri 2 2 kelapa sawit dengan chara besar an. supaya hutan simpanan yang telah kita Waiau pun kita telah berseru kapada tentukan semenjak lima enam-puloh ra'ayat bagi hendak memajukan lebeh tahun yang lalu itu di-kaji sa-mula, banyak lagi perolehan2 di-dalam ne­ dengan di-tarek keluar sa-bahagian gara kita ini dengan menanam kelapa daripada-nya untok ra'ayat menanam sawit, tetapi kelapa sawit itu sa­ kelapa sawit, getah atau pun sa-bagai­ bagaimana sama2 kita ma'alum, satu nya. tanaman yang bukan boleh di-buat Dengan pendudok yang bertambah dengan 10 relong atau pun 10 ekar banyak pada hari ini terutama sa­ bagitu sahaja. Perkara ini mustahak di­ kali-pemuda2 Melayu yang sa-mata2 buat dengan chara besar2an, yang kena kebolehan mereka itu hidup di-atas di-mulakan oleh Kerajaan sendiri, yang tanah tidak mempunyai kebolehan yang kemudian-nya ra'ayat sendiri dengan 701 16 JUNE 1967 702 chara kechil2an, dapat-lah mereka itu akan bertambah banyak, boleh ra'ayat menanam dan menjual hasil2 kelapa menanam padi. Dan sa-bahagian sawit itu kapada pusat, yang Kerajaan tanah itu boleh menyalorkan ayer sendiri menentukan. Jadi dalam negeri dengan sempurna. Kedah, bila sebut hal kelapa sawit, ra'ayat di-sana kebingongan-ra'ayat Dalam kawasan saya sahaja, saya boleh bagi mithalan, ada tiga buah di-sana macham mimpi. Boleh mereka ladang Eropah yang ada tanah yang tudoh yang Kerajaan hari ini bermain sa-umpama itu yang terbiar, yang theory sahaja, tidak ada satu chontoh tidak boleh di-tanam apa2 pun, yang yang boleh di-tunjokkan di-Kedah. Kerajaan sendiri tidak mengambil Pada hal tanah di-sana juga sama apa2 langkahan dan ra'ayat sendiri, saperti negeri2 lain-subor, yang boleh terutama sa-kali orang2 Melayu yang hidup dengan tanaman kelapa sawit. ingin menanam padi, tak dapat Jadi ini lagi sa-kali saya harap-lah menanam walau pun mereka dudok Kerajaan menimbangkan kemajuan ke­ dekat dengan tanah itu. lapa sawit ini dalam negeri Kedah. Saya berani berkata, hendak chari Untok membanyakkan lagi tanaman tanah Kerajaan yang luar daripada padi dalam Negara kita ini saya tanah hutan simpan, tidak ada. Musta­ setuju dengan sa-orang Ahli Yang hak sa-kali di-buka hutan simpanan sa­ Berhormat tadi yang berchakap lebeh bagaimana yang saya katakan tadi. dahulu daripada saya, ia-itu meng­ adakan padi huma. Sa-bagaimana yang kita sama2 tahu, padi hari ini Kementerian Perdagangan Kita pada hari ini dalam ran­ changan FLDA, sistem kita menanam telah pun memerentahkan supaya 2 jualan beras itu di-letakkan harga2, getah kita ikut chara baharu yang di­ tetapi saya berasa ragu2 lagi, ada-kah buat oleh orang2 Eropah, ia-itu dengan meletakkan harga2 itu, dengan dengan menanam kachang penutup sendiri-nya harga itu boleh turun. humi. Jadi itu pun satu daripada ikhtiar kita yang elok untok hendak me­ Dalam hal ini kita telah mengalami nahan supaya tumbohan2 lain, yang dalam masa tahun2 1946, 1947, 1948 tidak berguna jangan mengganggu dan 1949, berkenaan dengan kekurangan pokok2 getah kita. Perkara ini saya beras. Kalau tidak silap kita men­ shorkan supaya Kerajaan dapat me­ jalankan ikhtiar2 kita, bukan-nya harga mesongkan sadikit chara2 ikhtiar kita itu akan turun tetapi akan bertambah untok membanyakkan padi dalam naik. Puncha2 yang boleh naik harga negeri kita ini, biar-lah di-dalam ran­ changan kita FLDA itu di-masokkan ini, saya tidak-lah hendak membabit­ 2 kan dengan peperangan atau sebab2 peserta -nya, lebeh awal dengan me­ apa. Biar-lah kita ambil satu sahaja ia­ nanam padi bersama2 getah atau Kelapa itu dengan sebab kekurangan tanah Sawit dalam masa dua atau tiga tahun, tanaman padi di-dalam negara kita. lepas itu di-rentikan tanaman padi Saya mengshorkan untok hendak me­ dan di-biarkan tanaman getah atau nambahkan sadikit sa-banyak pe­ Kelapa Sawit sahaja, yang bererti kita ngeluaran padi dalam negara kita ini, telah beruntong mendapat hasil padi pertama2 sa-kali Kerajaan hendak-lah selama dua atau tiga tahun. 2 menyemak sa-mula tanah yang di­ Jika sa-kira-nya kita dapat beramal, mileki oleh ra'ayat hari ini terutama saperti mana yang saya katakan tadi, sa-kali tanah2 yang di-dalam ladang2 tentu-lah sa-bahagian daripada ke­ kepunyaan Eropah yang boleh di­ kurangan beras tadi akan dapat kita buat bendang, di-tarek keluar dari­ penohi. pada ladang mereka itu di-jadikan bendang. Berhubong dengan kejatohan harga getah ada pada hari ini yang Kera­ Tanah yang saya sebutkan tadi, jaan sendiri berasa bimbang dengan walau pun tidak-lah bagitu banyak sebab perolehan2 basil daripada pen­ dalam sa-sabuah ladang getah kita jualan getah ini telah merusut lebeh2 dapat, tetapi jika di-himpun sa-kali lagi pekebun2 kechil. Harl ini walau 703 16 JUNE 1967 704 pun sama2 kita dengar yang Kerajaan banyak. Telah beberapa kali pehak sendiri telah berhempas pulas men­ saya telah berhubong dengan pegawai2 jalankan beberapa ikhtiar menghantar­ yang berkenaan di-Kedah dengan kan pegawai2 kita ka-luar negeri mem­ jawapan mereka itu tidak dapat di­ buat perhubongan2 dengan negeri luar layan dan tidak dapat menghantar supaya harga getah ini akan menjadi ubat di-kampong dengan sebab kereta bertambah tinggi, tetapi sa-makin kita ubat tidak menchukupi. berikhtiar tidak juga berhasil. Hal ini 2 Yang ketiga-nya, saya suka sebut­ saya sunggoh berasa bimbang atas kan ia-itu di-dalam Titah Uchapan penghidupan orang2 di-kampong, ter­ 2 Duli Yang Maha Mulia ini, sama ada utama sa-kali kapada pekebun kechil. dengan chara tidak sedar atau pun Apa akan jadi sa-kira-nya getah ini sengaja tidak di-masokkan, perkara meleset ka-bawah lagi daripada benchana alam pada masa yang lalu $30.00 atau pun $40.00 kerana ke­ yang Kerajaan Perikatan sendiri dapat banyakan daripada pekebun kechil mengatasi-nya, dapat melayankan, dan bergantong penghidupan mereka itu 2 2 menolong orang yang telah terkena di-atas getah sa-mata • J adi saya benchana alam bah itu, baik di­ harap segala ikhtiar Kerajaan yang Kelantan, di-Kedah dan di-Perak. Jadi telah lalu itu jangan-lah jemu dan 2 saya rasa walau pun tidak di-sebutkan jangan putus asa dan bersunggoh lagi di-sini biar-lah saya ungkitkan kem­ supaya getah ini akan mendapat bali, ini satu jasa yang Kerajaan kita jaminan harga-nya walau pun terpaksa dapat mengatasi bala benchana itu kita membuat perhubongan pula dengan sempurna dan orang yang dengan negara2 mana pun dalam dunia telah mendapat bala itu telah pun ini. berterima kaseh kapada Kerajaan. Sa-Iain daripada itu, saya suka-lah Dan kita tahu Yang Berhormat Men­ pula membawa dalam Titah Uchapan teri Kebajikan 'Am telah pun meng­ ambil bahagian yang penting bagi Duli Yang Maha Mulia itu berhubong 2 dengan perkara kesihatan ia-itu dalam !11~njalankan usaha dalam perkara Titah Uchapan Baginda itu perkhid­ lfil. matan kesihatan di-kampong2 kita Dan lagi satu berkenaan dengan akan di-teruskan dari satu masa ka­ kemajuan2 luar bandar bersangkut satu masa. Dalam hal ini saya hendak dengan membuat jalan. Dalam Titah sentoh sadikit sahaja mengenai rumah Uchapan itu ada di-sebutkan hendak sakit di-kawasan saya sendiri di­ membuat jalan baharu daripada timor Baling. Dalam beberapa bulan yang ka-barat-di-Sabah menghubongkan lalu wang peruntokan bagi menanam jalan Jesselton dan Sandakan. Ini kita mayat orang yang mati di-rumah uchapan banyak shukor dan terima sakit itu telah kehabisan. Saya sendiri kaseh. Tetapi apa yang saya hendak terpaksa berikhtiar dengan orang sebutkan di-sini ia-itu satu perkara yang ramai untok mendapatkan derma bagi telah lama di-ura2kan oleh Kerajaan menanamkan mayat itu. Jadi perkara hendak menghubongkan jalan di-antara ini saya sendiri tidak tahu-lah sebab2- timor dan barat Malaysia ini-Perseku­ nya sampai bagitu sa-kali kehabisan tuan Tanah Melayu-sampai hari ini wang di-situ. Saya harap perkara itu ranchangan ini dalam tandatanya ada­ akan mendapat perhatian daripada kah ranchangan ini akan di-teruskan pehak Kementerian Kesihatan supaya atau pun di-rentikan buat sementara perkara itu dapat di-atasi dan tidak waktu tidak-lah dapat keterangan apa2• memalukan ra'ayat pada masa akan Walau bagaimana pun saya harap-lah datang. jalan yang sangat penting ini akan dapat di-laksanakan oleh Kerajaan kita dalam Berkenaan dengan kereta2 ubat juga tidak berapa lama masa-nya lagi. walau pun di-sana telah ada satu dua buah tetapi perkhidmatan kereta ubat Dan satu lagi yang saya suka bangkit­ di-sana tidak-lah memuaskan dengan kan berhubong dengan tanah yang telah kerana kampong di-dalam kawasan di-ambil--oleh Kerajaan dalam kawa­ saya itu luas dan jalan yang baharu san saya sendiri ia-itu jalan dari Kuala di-buka memerlukan kereta ubat yang Ketil ka-Teloi Kanan dan dari Kuala 705 16 JUNE 1967 706 Kupang ka-Tiak dan ka-lboi. Ra'ayat semangat kapada ra'ayat terutama sa­ di-sana telah merayu beberapa kali kali kapada ahli2 sharikat kerjasama kapada saya ia-itu di-atas bayaran mengumpulkan wang dan, jika boleh. emboh harga tanah yang di-ambil per­ daripada sekarang meminta kapada buat jalan itu sampai hari ini belum di­ MARA memberi peluang bekerja buat bayaran lagi walau pun beberapa dengan bas2 MARA itu, manakala kali saya telah menulis kapada pehak chukup modal dan kebolehan-nya yang berkenaan tetapi tidak berhasil; boleh-lah sharikat kerjasama atau pun tentang mana kesilapan, ini saya sendiri badan2 yang di-bentok pada masa yang tidak-lah ketahui. Saya harap dengan akan datang itu membuat permohonan keterangan yang saya beri dalam Dewan kapada MARA dan mengambil aleh. ini Menteri yang berkenaan akan meng­ Jadi dengan usaha2 yang bagitu baharu­ ambil perhatian yang berat supaya ganti lah dasar Kerajaan kita, akan dapat di­ rugi rumah dan sa-bagai-nya yang ter­ laksanakan dengan sempuma-nya. kena di-atas jalan yang di-buat oleh Akhir sa-kali, Tuan Yang di-Pertua. Jabatan Kerja Raya itu akan dapat di­ saya suka berchakap berkenaan dengan buat bayaran dengan sa-berapa segera apa yang banyak sa-kali di-sebutkan di­ yang boleh. Tidak-lah adil sa-kira-nya dalam Titah Uchapan ini berhubong telah tujoh tahun perkara itu tidak 2 dengan kekurangan wang Kerajaan atau mendapat apa bayaran dan tidak pun di-minta supaya semua jabatan2 mendapat apa2 pertimbangan daripada atau pun pegawai2 Kerajaan berbelanja pehak Kerajaan. dengan sa-habis2 chermat. Perkara jimat Satu perkara lagi berhubong dengan chermat ini senang pada kata2-nya bas2 MARA yang berjalan di-jalan2 tetapi amat-lah susah hendak melak­ baharu hari ini. Dasar MARA walau sanakan kalau sa-kira-nya tiap2 pun pada permulaan-nya tanggong­ pegawai itu tidak berani dengan tegas jawab-nya mengadakan modal2 membeli mengambil satu kesimpulan untok bas dan sa-bagai-nya, menyelenggara­ menjimatkan perbelanjaan ini. kan kenderaan itu tetapi pada akhir­ Dalam satu dua hari ini sama ada nya pemiagaan ini akan di-beri kapada benar atau tidak ia-itu Yang Amat ra'ayat di-dalam kawasan itu atau di­ Berhormat Perdana Menteri, telah daerah itu tetapi sampai hari ini sema­ bersetuju Pas2 Keretapi yang di-beri ngat ra'ayat hendak menerima dan me­ kapada Wakil Ra'ayat itu akan di­ nyambut basil yang di-jalankan oleh tarek, ini sa-bahagian langkah awal MARA itu tidak kedengaran. Perkara hendak menjimatkan perbelanjaan ini saya rasa wajib Kementerian Per­ negara-saya menyokong ini. Kalau tanian dan Sharikat Kerjasama mem­ tidak berani berkorban sa-bahagian beri galakan, terutama sa-kali kapada daripada kemudahan2 kita tentu-lah sharikat2 yang ada di-merata2 kampong sa-kali apa yang di-kehendaki dalam itu yang mana sharikat itu sendiri hari Titah Uchapan ini tidak akan ber­ ini telah pun meminda tambahan per­ hasil. Tahun yang lalu Wakil dari­ atoran-nya yang di-katakan sharikat pada Kota Star Selatan dia kondem serba-guna jadi patut-lah daripada berkenaan dengan bilek2 hawa dingin, sekarang kempen supaya modal2 itu tidak payah hawa dingin, pakai kipas bertambah banyak dan mengambil aleh chukup, ini belanja besar, leterik-lam­ perkhidmatan bas MARA di-Kampong pu2 jangan pakai banyak, pakai sadikit, itu kapada sharikat kerjasama di-situ. talipon2 jangan pakai sampai banyak2, Jika daripada sekarang ini semangat pakai sadikit2 sa-berapa yang chermat. ra'ayat hanya memada dengan apa yang Jadi ini semua satu chontoh, berani­ di-buat oleh MARA itu neschaya kah kalau pegawai2 dalam tiap2 jabatan usaha2 MARA itu tertinggal bagitu hendak mengorban kemudahan2 yang sahaja tidak memberi apa2 satu faedah di-berikan ini. 2 kapada ekonomi ra'ayat di-luar bandar. Saya tidak-lah hendak sebut atas Di-harap Kementerian Pertanian dan satu2 perkara. Kalau sa-kira-nya kita Sharikat Kerjasama melalui pegawai2 bersedia, dan berazam dengan chita2 yang tertentu hendak-lah daripada kaseh sayang kapada bangsa dan sekarang ini bersedia kempen memberi negara kita hendak-lah pada hari ini 707 16 JUNE 1967 708 kita berani mengorbankan segala ke­ lari daripada kenyataan ini dan senangan2 kita buat sementara waktu, walau pun bagitu sa-bahagian2 ikhtiar sama ada daripada peringkat Wakil kita itu telah pun berjaya dan ra'ayat Ra'ayat, Menteri2, Pegawai2 Tinggi sendiri telah pun mendapat nikmat. Kerajaan juga bersama2 bersatu dalam Saperti mana yang telah di-uchapkan satu jiwa untok menjaga kewangan oleh Yang Amat Berhormat Timbalan negara kita. Dengan memelihara ke­ Perdana Menteri mengatakan dengan kuatan kewangan negara kita ini, maka usaha Kerajaan, hendak memberi itu-lah nadi kekuatan negara kita-sa­ tiap2 orang ra'ayat mendapat keper­ kira-nya di-dalam hal ini kita tidak olehan $300 sa-bulan, jadi sa-tengah2 jaga nasib negara kita masa yang akan orang ketawa dalam hal ini. Ada-kah datang tidak akan terjamin. Yang benar chakap2 itu, sa-benar-nya itu kita Berhormat Menteri Kewangan selalu telah dapat menjawab yang mana beruchap tentang kejatohan harga bijeh Kerajaan telah lakukan terutama sa­ timah dan getah. Dua puncha ini sahaja kali dalam tanah2 FLDA yang mereka kita bergantong daripada semenjak sa­ itu telah dapat menoreh getah meng­ belum kita merdeka sa-hingga sampai ambil hasil mereka itu nyata mereka ka-hari ini. Tidak-lah kita dapat satu2 telah mendapat $300 sa-bulan dan puncha lain yang boleh menambah lebeh daripada itu. Jadi kita berharap hasil kita. Walau pun telah 10 tahun usaha2 Kerajaan itu bukan dalam segi kita merdeka tetapi ikhtiar kita belum FLDA menanam getah sahaja bahkan terchapai lagi. Kita harap Kerajaan kapada segi2 lain yang matalamat kita dengan sa-berapa lekas-nya boleh kita hendak meninggikan taraf hidup walau menchari banyak lagi puncha2 yang dengan apa jua chara sa-kali pun. Jadi boleh menambahkan hasil negara kita sekian-lah sahaja, Tuan Yang di­ ini. Pertua, dan saya menuntut ma'af, terima kaseh. Jadi walau pun sa-panjang uchapan saya itu sa-bahagian-nya boleh di-kata­ Mr (Deputy) Speaker: Meshuarat di­ kan menegor Kerajaan tetapi itu ada­ tanggohkan sa-hingga pukul 10.00 pagi lah berupa kenyataan yang berlaku di­ esok. daJam negara kita. Jadi saya tidak akan Adjoc1rned at 6.30 p.m.