Communities, Equality and Local Government Committee

Meeting Venue: Committee Room 2 - Senedd

Meeting date: Thursday, 22 January 2015

Meeting time: 09.00 - 13.45

This meeting can be viewed on Senedd TV at: http://www.senedd.tv/Meeting/Index/7f775116-b5da-4499-9b19- 78a2a213b1b8

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Assembly Members: Christine Chapman AM (Chair) Peter Black AM Alun Davies AM Jocelyn Davies AM Janet Finch-Saunders AM Mike Hedges AM Mark Isherwood AM Gwyn R Price AM Rhodri Glyn Thomas AM

Witnesses: Leighton Andrews AM, The Minister for Public Services Sarah Rhodes, Welsh Government Rhys Davies, Welsh Government

Committee Staff: Sarah Beasley (Clerk) Elizabeth Wilkinson (Second Clerk) Chloe Davies (Deputy Clerk) Matthew Richards (Legal Adviser)

TRANSCRIPT View the meeting transcript. 1 Consideration of scope and approach to Stage 1 scrutiny of the Local Government (Wales) Bill 1.1 The Committee considered the scope and approach to Stage 1 scrutiny of the Local Government (Wales) Bill.

2 Introductions, apologies and substitutions 2.1 The Chair welcomed Members and members of the public to the meeting.

2.2 Apologies for absence were received from Gwenda Thomas. Sandy Mewies substituted for her in accordance with Standing Order 17.48.

3 Gender-based Violence, Domestic Abuse and Sexual Violence (Wales) Bill - Stage 2 - consideration of amendments 3.1 In accordance with Standing Order 26.21, the Committee disposed of the following amendments to the Bill:

Amendment 1 (Leighton Andrews) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 106 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Janet Finch-Saunders Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Mark Isherwood Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price 3 5 2 Amendment 106 was not agreed

Amendment 114 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Janet Finch-Saunders Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Mark Isherwood Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price 3 5 2 Amendment 114 was not agreed

As amendment 114 was not agreed, amendment 121 (Peter Black) fell.

Amendment 124 (Mark Isherwood) In favour Against Abstain Janet Finch-Saunders Christine Chapman Peter Black Mark Isherwood Alun Davies Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price 2 5 3 Amendment 124 was not agreed

Amendment 83 (Peter Black) was withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 26.66(i).

Amendment 125 (Mark Isherwood) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Janet Finch-Saunders Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mark Isherwood Mike Hedges Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price 3 5 2 Amendment 125 was not agreed

As amendment 125 was not agreed, amendment 126 (Mark Isherwood) fell.

Amendment 10 (Jocelyn Davies) was not moved.

Amendment 2 (Leighton Andrews) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 84 (Peter Black) was not moved.

Amendment 85 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Janet Finch-Saunders Alun Davies Mark Isherwood Mike Hedges Jocelyn Davies Sandy Mewies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 85 was not agreed.

As amendment 85 was not agreed, amendment 86 (Peter Black) fell.

Amendment 127 (Mark Isherwood) In favour Against Abstain Janet Finch-Saunders Christine Chapman Peter Black Mark Isherwood Alun Davies Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price 2 5 3 Amendment 127 was not agreed

Amendment 115 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch-Saunders Sandy Mewies Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 115 was not agreed.

Amendment 3 (Leighton Andrews) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 116 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch-Saunders Sandy Mewies Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 116 was not agreed.

Amendment 117 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch-Saunders Sandy Mewies Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 117 was not agreed.

As amendments 115, 116 and 117 were not agreed, amendments 118 and 122 (Peter Black) fell.

Amendment 87 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch-Saunders Sandy Mewies Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 87 was not agreed.

Amendment 81 (Leighton Andrews) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 88 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch-Saunders Sandy Mewies Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 88 was not agreed.

As amendment 88 was not agreed, amendment 90 (Peter Black) fell.

Amendment 89 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 89 was not agreed.

Amendment 91 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Jocelyn Davies Christine Chapman Rhodri Glyn Thomas Alun Davies Peter Black Mike Hedges Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 7 0 Amendment 91 was not agreed

Amendment 123 (Janet Finch-Saunders) In favour Against Abstain Jocelyn Davies Christine Chapman Rhodri Glyn Thomas Peter Black Alun Davies Janet Finch-Saunders Mike Hedges Mark Isherwood Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price 4 5 1 Amendment 123 was not agreed

Amendment 4 (Leighton Andrews) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 11 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 11 was not agreed.

Amendment 119 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 119 was not agreed.

Amendment 5 (Leighton Andrews) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 6 (Leighton Andrews) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 7 (Leighton Andrews) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 12 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 12 was not agreed.

Amendment 92 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 92 was not agreed.

Amendment 120 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 120 was not agreed.

Amendment 13 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 13 was not agreed.

Amendment 14 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 14 was not agreed.

Amendment 101 (Peter Black) was withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 26.66(i).

Amendment 102 (Peter Black) was not moved.

Amendment 15 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 15 was not agreed.

As amendment 15 was not agreed, amendments 16, 17, 19-24 and 26-45 (Jocelyn Davies) fell.

Amendment 8 (Leighton Andrews) In favour Against Abstain Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Peter Black Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch- Saunders Mark Isherwood 7 3 0 Amendment 8 was agreed

As amendment 8 was agreed, amendment 16 (Jocelyn Davies) fell.

Amendment 18 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 18 was not agreed.

Amendment 93 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Janet Finch-Saunders Christine Chapman Mark Isherwood Alun Davies Peter Black Mike Hedges Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Jocelyn Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas 3 7 0 Amendment 93 was not agreed

Amendment 103 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 103 was not agreed.

Amendment 25 (Jocelyn Davies) was not moved.

Amendment 94 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 94 was not agreed.

Amendment 46 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Christine Chapman Alun Davies Peter Black Mike Hedges Jocelyn Davies Sandy Mewies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 4 6 0 Amendment 46 was not agreed

Amendment 47 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Christine Chapman Alun Davies Peter Black Mike Hedges Jocelyn Davies Sandy Mewies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 4 6 0 Amendment 47 was not agreed

Amendment 48 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Christine Chapman Alun Davies Peter Black Mike Hedges Jocelyn Davies Sandy Mewies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 4 6 0 Amendment 48 was not agreed

Amendment 49 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Christine Chapman Alun Davies Peter Black Mike Hedges Jocelyn Davies Sandy Mewies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 4 6 0 Amendment 49 was not agreed

Amendment 50 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Christine Chapman Alun Davies Peter Black Mike Hedges Jocelyn Davies Sandy Mewies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 4 6 0 Amendment 50 was not agreed

As amendments 47, 48, 49 and 50 (Jocelyn Davies) were not agreed, amendment 72 (Jocelyn Davies) fell.

Amendment 51 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 51 was not agreed

Amendment 52 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 52 was not agreed

Amendment 53 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 53 was not agreed

Amendment 54 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 54 was not agreed

Amendment 55 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 55 was not agreed

Amendment 56 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 56 was not agreed

Amendment 57 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 57 was not agreed

Amendment 58 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 58 was not agreed

Amendment 59 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 59 was not agreed

Amendment 60 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 60 was not agreed

Amendment 61 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 61 was not agreed

Amendment 62 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 62 was not agreed

Amendment 63 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 63 was not agreed

Amendment 64 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 64 was not agreed

Amendment 65 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 65 was not agreed

Amendment 66 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 66 was not agreed

Amendment 67 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 67 was not agreed

Amendment 74 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 74 was not agreed

Amendment 75 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 75 was not agreed

Amendment 76 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 76 was not agreed

Amendment 77 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 77 was not agreed

Amendment 78 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 78 was not agreed

Amendment 79 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 79 was not agreed

Amendment 80 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Alun Davies Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 6 1 Amendment 80 was not agreed

Amendment 95 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 95 was not agreed.

Amendment 96 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 96 was not agreed.

Amendment 97A (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 97A was not agreed.

Amendment 97B (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 97B was not agreed.

Amendment 97C (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 97C was not agreed.

Amendment 97D (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 97D was not agreed.

Amendment 97E (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 97E was not agreed.

Amendment 97F (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 97F was not agreed.

Amendment 97 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 97 was not agreed.

As amendment 97 was not agreed, amendment 99 (Peter Black) fell.

Amendment 98 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 98 was not agreed.

Amendment 107 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Janet Finch-Saunders Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Mark Isherwood Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price 3 5 2 Amendment 107 was not agreed

As amendment 107 was not agreed, amendment 111 (Jocelyn Davies) fell.

Amendment 108 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Janet Finch-Saunders Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Mark Isherwood Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price 3 5 2 Amendment 108 was not agreed

Amendment 109 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Janet Finch-Saunders Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Mark Isherwood Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price 3 5 2 Amendment 109 was not agreed

Amendment 110 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 7 0 Amendment 110 was not agreed

Amendment 112 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Janet Finch-Saunders Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Mark Isherwood Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price 3 5 2 Amendment 112 was not agreed

Amendment 104 (Peter Black) was not moved.

Amendment 105 (Peter Black) was not moved.

Amendment 69 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Janet Finch-Saunders Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Mark Isherwood Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price 3 5 2 Amendment 69 was not agreed

Amendment 70 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Janet Finch-Saunders Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Mark Isherwood Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price 3 5 2 Amendment 70 was not agreed

Amendment 113 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Janet Finch-Saunders Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Mark Isherwood Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price 3 5 2 Amendment 113 was not agreed

Amendment 71 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Janet Finch-Saunders Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Mark Isherwood Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price 3 5 2 Amendment 71 was not agreed

Amendment 82A (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch-Saunders Sandy Mewies Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 82A was not agreed.

Amendment 82 (Leighton Andrews) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

As amendment 82 was agreed, amendment 100 (Peter Black) fell.

Amendment 9 (Jocelyn Davies) was withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 26.66(i).

3.2 The Chair announced that Stage 2 had been completed with all sections and schedules of the Bill being deemed agreed.

3.3 The Committee noted that a revised Explanatory Memorandum will be prepared in accordance with Standing Order 26.27.