Communities, Equality and Local Government Committee Meeting Venue: Committee Room 2 - Senedd Meeting date: Thursday, 22 January 2015 Meeting time: 09.00 - 13.45 This meeting can be viewed on Senedd TV at: http://www.senedd.tv/Meeting/Index/7f775116-b5da-4499-9b19- 78a2a213b1b8 Concise Minutes: MeetingTitle Assembly Members: Christine Chapman AM (Chair) Peter Black AM Alun Davies AM Jocelyn Davies AM Janet Finch-Saunders AM Mike Hedges AM Mark Isherwood AM Gwyn R Price AM Rhodri Glyn Thomas AM Witnesses: Leighton Andrews AM, The Minister for Public Services Sarah Rhodes, Welsh Government Rhys Davies, Welsh Government Committee Staff: Sarah Beasley (Clerk) Elizabeth Wilkinson (Second Clerk) Chloe Davies (Deputy Clerk) Matthew Richards (Legal Adviser) TRANSCRIPT View the meeting transcript. 1 Consideration of scope and approach to Stage 1 scrutiny of the Local Government (Wales) Bill 1.1 The Committee considered the scope and approach to Stage 1 scrutiny of the Local Government (Wales) Bill. 2 Introductions, apologies and substitutions 2.1 The Chair welcomed Members and members of the public to the meeting. 2.2 Apologies for absence were received from Gwenda Thomas. Sandy Mewies substituted for her in accordance with Standing Order 17.48. 3 Gender-based Violence, Domestic Abuse and Sexual Violence (Wales) Bill - Stage 2 - consideration of amendments 3.1 In accordance with Standing Order 26.21, the Committee disposed of the following amendments to the Bill: Amendment 1 (Leighton Andrews) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i). Amendment 106 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Janet Finch-Saunders Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Mark Isherwood Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price 3 5 2 Amendment 106 was not agreed Amendment 114 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Janet Finch-Saunders Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Mark Isherwood Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price 3 5 2 Amendment 114 was not agreed As amendment 114 was not agreed, amendment 121 (Peter Black) fell. Amendment 124 (Mark Isherwood) In favour Against Abstain Janet Finch-Saunders Christine Chapman Peter Black Mark Isherwood Alun Davies Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price 2 5 3 Amendment 124 was not agreed Amendment 83 (Peter Black) was withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 26.66(i). Amendment 125 (Mark Isherwood) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Janet Finch-Saunders Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mark Isherwood Mike Hedges Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price 3 5 2 Amendment 125 was not agreed As amendment 125 was not agreed, amendment 126 (Mark Isherwood) fell. Amendment 10 (Jocelyn Davies) was not moved. Amendment 2 (Leighton Andrews) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i). Amendment 84 (Peter Black) was not moved. Amendment 85 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Janet Finch-Saunders Alun Davies Mark Isherwood Mike Hedges Jocelyn Davies Sandy Mewies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 85 was not agreed. As amendment 85 was not agreed, amendment 86 (Peter Black) fell. Amendment 127 (Mark Isherwood) In favour Against Abstain Janet Finch-Saunders Christine Chapman Peter Black Mark Isherwood Alun Davies Jocelyn Davies Mike Hedges Rhodri Glyn Thomas Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price 2 5 3 Amendment 127 was not agreed Amendment 115 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch-Saunders Sandy Mewies Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 115 was not agreed. Amendment 3 (Leighton Andrews) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i). Amendment 116 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch-Saunders Sandy Mewies Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 116 was not agreed. Amendment 117 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch-Saunders Sandy Mewies Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 117 was not agreed. As amendments 115, 116 and 117 were not agreed, amendments 118 and 122 (Peter Black) fell. Amendment 87 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch-Saunders Sandy Mewies Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 87 was not agreed. Amendment 81 (Leighton Andrews) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i). Amendment 88 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch-Saunders Sandy Mewies Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 88 was not agreed. As amendment 88 was not agreed, amendment 90 (Peter Black) fell. Amendment 89 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 89 was not agreed. Amendment 91 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Jocelyn Davies Christine Chapman Rhodri Glyn Thomas Alun Davies Peter Black Mike Hedges Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price Janet Finch-Saunders Mark Isherwood 3 7 0 Amendment 91 was not agreed Amendment 123 (Janet Finch-Saunders) In favour Against Abstain Jocelyn Davies Christine Chapman Rhodri Glyn Thomas Peter Black Alun Davies Janet Finch-Saunders Mike Hedges Mark Isherwood Sandy Mewies Gwyn Price 4 5 1 Amendment 123 was not agreed Amendment 4 (Leighton Andrews) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i). Amendment 11 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 11 was not agreed. Amendment 119 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 119 was not agreed. Amendment 5 (Leighton Andrews) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i). Amendment 6 (Leighton Andrews) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i). Amendment 7 (Leighton Andrews) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i). Amendment 12 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 12 was not agreed. Amendment 92 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 92 was not agreed. Amendment 120 (Peter Black) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 120 was not agreed. Amendment 13 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 13 was not agreed. Amendment 14 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 14 was not agreed. Amendment 101 (Peter Black) was withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 26.66(i). Amendment 102 (Peter Black) was not moved. Amendment 15 (Jocelyn Davies) In favour Against Abstain Peter Black Christine Chapman Jocelyn Davies Alun Davies Rhodri Glyn Thomas Mike Hedges Janet Finch- Sandy Mewies Saunders Mark Isherwood Gwyn Price 5 5 0 As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)).