Volume 4: No 3 November, 2001

TALKABOUT FUTURE DIRECTIONS.

Contributions received for 2001 to date have amounted to $3,970 from a total of 239 contributors, an average contribution of $16.60 per person. This far exceeds the suggested sum, which was $5 per person.

THE GENEROSITY OF THESE SUBSCRIBERS IS MAGNIFICENT!

The darker side of this is that we print and post 2,300 copies per issue and so approximately 10% are paying for the remaining 90%.

This figure is a harsh statistic as, no doubt, many have contributed much more than was requested and feel that they are covered for some years. Do you know we have been going for four years? Time goes so quickly it is hard to believe that our next publication will mark the beginning of our fifth year of publication. We have been gratified by the number of contributions received and have increased the size of Talkabout from eight pages to twelve pages. We would like to see it remain at this size if possible but printing costs will consequently increase. At this stage we have to see where we are going.

The cost of printing ($900) and postage ($1035) means that it is costing approximately $2,000 per issue. We are most fortunate that at this stage Charles Sturt University pays our postage cost. If this boon disappears we will be in dire straits.

It was suggested at the last committee meeting that an annual subscription of $10 be payable in February of each year, to commence in 2002. However, the W.W.T.C. Scholarship Appeal and Talkabout contribution form will continue to be included with each issue for those who forget to subscribe at the beginning of the year.

Scholarship donations keep coming in. From the Editors’ Desks ALEXANDER von used the idea, but offered a typically SCHWARTZ REVISITED Haganesque ending in which von Schwartz, while attempting to climb On the evening prior to a the Montessori Steps to reach Peter’s Mathematics examination, the House, fell and broke his neck! denizens of Dorm 9 met in the I spent my first two years teaching Common Room to discuss common at Wagga High as PE teacher. Wes concerns, viz: had returned from secondment to his original school, and we became quite • as a result of lecturing efforts of good friends. When I broached the one Wes Robinson, they had subject of the Alexander von Schwartz • no real knowledge of the theory conspiracy, his reply was, “You didn’t of teaching Maths. At our last Alumni Committee think I was that stupid did you?” Meeting, Vice-President Roy Parker • they had little collective The fact that we all passed in suggested that all ex-students, rather information that might enable them to Mathematics suggests that Wes did than those from specific years be • at least gain a Provisional Pass, have a sense of humour after all. invited to general reunions. This and Kev Tye (1949-50) suggestion bears thought. The term • they were in for a very “Pioneer” was loosely applied to our uncomfortable time in the exam room. APOLOGY early reunions and was to include ex- TEACHING MEMORIES students from 1947 to 1951. In truth One of the group, however, the true “Pioneers” were those seemed to remember that Wes had Most alumni who ordered a copy students who began College in 1947. suggested that one part of the paper of College and Teaching Memories While members of individual sessions might be an open-ended question should by now have received it. may still wish to have their own concerning a topic of one’s own In reading the Acknowledge- reunions it is becoming increasingly reading on the subject. Thus, the story ments they will notice that no relevant to have general WWTC of Alexander von Schwartz was reference has been made to the reunions. created. person responsible for designing the After all, all sessions have a common In short, von Schwartz was a outstanding cover of the book – heritage – we are all ex-students of European academic who founded and DAVID LYONS (1952-1953). Wagga Wagga Teachers’ College and fostered the Social Utilitarian Theory I just cannot comprehend how I we are bound together with our of Mathematics, a definition and came to overlook acknowledging Scholarship Fund. explanation of which was left to each David’s contribution, which has been We would be interested to hear our individual student’s capacity for of inestimable value in adding to the readers’ views on this. embellishment. By common appeal of the book. By the time I For example, the inaugural Regional agreement, however, von Schwartz received my copy yesterday and Luncheon that is to be held on and his theory was ridiculed by realized the omission all copies had Saturday 10th November (see last academics throughout Europe and the been posted by the Alumni Office, Talkabout or phone Roy Parker on 02 Americas, and he died a broken, and it was too late even to include an 4228 4843) is open to all alumni. disillusioned man. insert. It is interesting to note that the E- I extend to David my sincere group continues to grow and includes We proceeded to the place of apologies for this inadvertent members from many sessions. This examination and duly offered up our omission, and hope he will forgive group would find it difficult to attend papers. Consternation reigned later, me. a general reunion as many live though, when Jim Hagan, an interloper JOHN RILEY overseas. This does not however, from Dorm 8, claimed that he had prevent them from communicating with one another, recounting college CONTACTS memories, teaching experiences, President: Bob Collard: 2 Louise Close, Ourimbah 2258 Phone 43622764. childhood memories and entertaining Secretary: Ann Smith: 24 Whitworth St, Westmead 2145 Phone 96350449 tales. E-mail: [email protected]. The E-group demonstrates a blending Treasurer: Lindsay Budd: 4 Flemington Close, Casula 2170 Phone 96013003, of ex-students from all sessions E-mail: [email protected]. because of the common thread of Editors: Lew Crabtree: 54 Kiparra St, West Pymble 2073 Phone 94985457 College years. Lew Morrell: 25 Grandview Drive, Newport 2106 Phone 99971506, If you are on the internet why not join E-mail: [email protected]. in? Teaching Memories: John Riley: 2 Woorak Cres, Miranda 2228 Phone Go to the site: 95255304 groups.yahoo.com/group/waggatc- E-mail: [email protected] alumni, Alumni Office: Michelle Fawkes: The Alumni Office, Charles Sturt University, and register as a user. Bathurst, 2795. Phone 63384629. E-mail: [email protected].

Page 2 Dunphy. Brian Pettit wants to know the From the whereabouts of Ross Worrall and Janice 1962-63: Molan. We found Jim Hale in Picton. Elaine Secretary's Desk. Mark McCulla (1960-61) has had a Saunders told us how to find Jenny successful Education Career in British Coggan (Lambert), Margot Gorman The main event since the July Talkabout Columbia, rising to district office in (Doyle)Leigh Griggs (Moore), Kaye was the reunion for the first five sessions. Vernon, but has been retired for a few Schirmer (Bland) Dinah Walker It was held at Sancta Sophia College at years now. (Sutton). Russ Tangye was mystified how Sydney University. Joan Johnson wrote Warren Cupitt(1960-61) tells his children his address was found in South Grafton. that she enjoyed the reunion very much. It that the two years at WWTC were the best was great to have all the evening events two years of his life. He would like to 1964 onwards: and the accommodation in the one venue. track down some of his colleagues. Henry Lohse (66) lives in Queanbeyan. Faye Blackhurst (Cambridge) 1950-51 Dave Martin (1960-61) has been in Elaine Petrovic (66) would like her wishes she lived closer so she could attend Dubbo for quite some time. Some cricket Talkabout sent to Putney. functions and reunions. Faye lives in nets are named after him. He was in charge Anne Blencowe(67) married Dennis Burnie, Tasmania. of the sporting grounds for the council. Burton(67). Dennis is Principal of Edward Most of my other letters concerned finding Murray Luke (1960-61) is the owner of Public School and Anne works as addresses of those whose Talkabout was Rafters restaurant in Batemans Bay. He Teacher/Librarian at Deniliquin High returned to Charles Sturt University, or recognised Ray Osmotherly when he School. trying to find an address for those people called for a meal. Ray was the college Beverley Hopper (Armstrong)(68) had 5 who have moved or those who have never photographer in 1959-60. Ralph Sadler children. Two are married. She teaches in been on the Database. Special thanks to 1960-61 is Co-Director of the Primary Maitland. those who sent me addresses which might Bachelor of Education at Sydney Patricia Netherey (69) sees Heather be current. University. He has been very helpful in McCall and Alison Mooney. Marcia Commins (Bradley) sent the remembering names missing from the following names: Diane O'Sullivan original lists. Where are David Burns, Charlie O'Meley's mum saved his letters (Venables) 1960-61, Alan Hartley,(1958- Ray Cassidy and Bill Connell? home from college (52-53). He would like 59), Julie Hartley(Fisher)1959-60, Don Hammond is still teaching, John to establish "An Old Bush School" on land Norma Bradley(Ferguson), Annette Tierney is a psychologist and Jim he has at Manilla so as to ensure that Hassett(McCausland)1959-60. Most of Shearing is teaching at the Murray posterity is not robbed of such heritage. them live around the Tumut area and could International School at Port Moresby. have a mini reunion. Tricia Kavanagh (1960-61 is an Ray Signor (1971-72) has joined as an Dawn Stewart (Andrews) (1950-51) Honorary Justice with the Industrial Affiliate Member. He graduated under the thought she was the only Alumni in Relations Commission of NSW. She is Riverina College of Advanced Education Alstonville but found that Gordon King friends with Kay Killick (Harris) and Di and applied for affiliation so that he can (1953-54), Robert Anderson (1957-58), Shore (Charlier). hear news through Talkabout of Wagga Malcolm Lobb (1959-60), Warren When we caught up with Harvey College mates from the 1970's lists, Cupitt (1980-61), Ann Johnson Ord(1960-61) he told us that he really Exstudents can do this by applying to me, (Shillabeer) (1963-64), Lawrence Howe enjoyed the Talkabout I sent him. then returning the Information Sheet, (1967-68) and Lionel Gailer, lecturer, all I believe that he and Jim Walsh used to which I will send to them. live there too. get into pranks at college. I have had news of Kathleen Riley nee Here are some of the ones who have John Thebridge (1961-62) is in Qld. He Lowther, Pat Byrne, Annette Johnston moved. was friends with Tony Skene, Ray Petts, and Ralph Zapart. Ray would like to hear Ken Hoare, Barbara Maitland's brother Ross Eggleton. They want to know where of some more from either college. has moved to Dundowran Beach in Qld. Beverley Willson is. Peter Pritchard 1956-57 and Ruth Lucas REST IN PEACE (1953-54) both moved. Neil McPherson Now for 1961-62: (1956-57) is now a permanent resident in Liz Meertens (Tuttlebee) remembers Harry Lee Robertson: Frankfurt, Germany. He retired in 1998, to Adrian Young had quite a talent in Art 4th January 2001 Pioneer. live in France. In September 1999 in Paris Thanks to Peggie Macbeth for sending Kenneth James Heath: he fell in love with a German woman far some addresses. 2001 1950-51 session. too young for him. He married her in April We discovered that Garry Towle had a Jack Robert Haines: 2000 at Bungendore (second marriage) and sister Annette now Anson who came later 2nd July 2001 1948-50 Session. now writes and teaches in Frankfurt. (1965-66). David Rummery: Malcolm Clune (1958-59) also retired and Leonard Turley taught for some years. 4th September 2001 Pioneer. moved to Bemboka. He joined the navy (eleven years), was a Di Shore nee Charlier(1960-61) met up pastor of an Assembly of God for 18 Thank you to those who sent information. with lecturer Gwenda Brook nee months and is now teaching Indonesian at Now can we concentrate on the following Conibear. Gwenda lectured at WWTC in a school in Riverstone. He has moved 28 years which have many blanks:-1960-- the 60's. In the 1959-60 session we found times. 1961--1962 1967--1968 onwards to 1974. Janice Bell(Wolfe)in Bowral, Ann In April Bernie Body (Skinner) had a We need to make Talkabout interesting for Sheerin in Bardwell Park, Lea Owen in small reunion with Elizabeth the later sessions. Thank you to those who Kent, Laurel Pearson in NT, Judy Price Meertens(Tuttlebee),& Maureen enclosed money. I passed it on to the in USA Wendy Loutitt in Bathurst, Linda Hughes(Foley). treasurer Lindsay Budd Gaudon in Warrimoo, Barbara Hobbs in Elizabeth now lives in Holland, Maureen Harden, and Robyn Rath possibly in in Melbourne and Bernie in Holbrook. Ann Smith. They had a nostalgic tour of Wagga and Coffs Harbour. Patricia Todd nee Tunnicliff (1959-69) visited old haunts. emailed that she had lost touch with Marie

Page 3 PIONEER SESSIONS REUNION JULY 2001 The reunion of the Pioneer sessions out and some of our group had very Ruby Riach (former lecturer in was held on the weekend 6-8 July. little. Needlework, and now a Patron of the VENUE: The venue was Sancta DINNER: The Reunion dinner was Alumni Association) was then invited Sophia College at Sydney University. held on Saturday night. to speak on behalf of our Patrons. Charles Sturt Alumni Office, through After dinner each session lined up for Michelle expressed thanks to her Michelle Fawkes, had sought a photographs. It was now very assistant Lisa, who had contributed suitable venue and came up with this noticeable how few people were significantly to organization of the one. It was convenient, being within present. reunion. easy access of public transport for Following the photographs, brief The rest of the evening was those living in Sydney or travelling words were said by a number of devoted to getting together in the from the country by train or even people. President Bob Collard read out Octagon Room. plane. Parking was made available on apologies from the following: Michelle and Lisa had on display the outskirts of the oval, right at the Norma Cook, Eric Hawcroft, Alan some WWTC memorabilia, as well as main entrance to the buildings. Buckingham, Billie Andrews, Lew copies of the long awaited College ACCOMMODATION: After Crabtree, Kevin and Winifred Wilcox, and Teaching Memories for registering at Reception guests were Geoff Spiller, Dorothy Judd, Audrey distribution. taken to their rooms which were Schaecken, Bruce Robinson and Bob SUNDAY: The Alumni Committee, student rooms and hence fairly Henderson. with the assistance of Michelle, had Spartan, with the bathrooms down the Bob outlined the reasons for our prepared an ecumenical church service hall. Because Sancta Sophia is a choice of the current venue, before to be held in the College Chapel on women’s college the bathrooms had making a plea for new people to Sunday morning. This moving signs indicating Male and Female. become involved in the work of the ceremony, conducted by members of THE OCTAGON ROOM. Most Alumni Committee. He indicated that the Committee, had as its underlying socializing took place in this our Scholarship Fund is nearing its theme remembrance of former interesting room – a kind of common initial goal, and urged alumni to colleagues who are no longer with us. room. Facilities there included tea and continue support of this important part All then adjourned to the quadrangle coffee making, cooling fans (!!), of our objectives. for a welcome morning tea and final comfortable seating, a piano, a small The chairman went on to thank exchange of memories. billiard table, a drink-dispensing members of the Alumni Committee machine, plus two televisions. Some for the special tasks they have Our thanks must be put on record alumni were not in residence, so the undertaken in the course of their to the CSU Alumni Office, in the room proved to be ideal to portfolios. persons of Michelle and Lisa, for their accommodate the number present at Raffles of works of art that had part in making possible this enjoyable any one time where old times could be been prepared by two alumni – Terry reunion, involving as it did such talked about. Higgins and Joan Gerard (Templeton) massive organization. SATURDAY ACTIVITIES: – were then drawn. By sheer John Riley (1948-50) Foxtel Studios. coincidence, one of the lucky winners Those who attended this activity was Olga Collard (Taylor). reported that it went well, with alumni having to choose between being survivors or victims of the Titanic disaster. One was reminded of the earthquake experience at 20th Century Fox studios in Los Angeles some years ago. The Harbour Cruise. Ours was not the only group on board Aussie One of Matilda Cruises, one group at the instigation of their coach captain jumping the queue in front of us to board; but our tables were reserved, so why worry. The commentary on Sydney Harbour could well have been interesting, but the deafening level of conversation, contributed to in no small degree by WWTC alumni, made it completely inaudible. But the commentary was 1947-49 PIONEERS not the point of the exercise, was it? Ian Thomas, Clare Hopkins (McGee), Graeme Wilson, Ed Raskell, Joe Lonsdale, Warwick Hunt. Lunch was a buffet but because of the Betty Thomas, Shirley Barry (Yonge), Joan Johnson (Armstrong), Vera Anderburg (Adcock), Gwen large number of people, the food ran Ferguson (Roberts), Noreen Hunt (Perry).

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1948-50 Bill Grant, Bob Collard, Olga Collard (Taylor), Blake Lewin, Chris Wangman (Cox), Bruce Phillips, Margot Phillips (Wilson), Ruby Riach, Joan Hudson, Barbara Maynard (Hoare), Col Crittenden, John Riley. Ann Smith (Broadhead), Dorothy Tanner (Williams), Eileen Garv (Pickering), Shirley Bonham (Rolfe), Judy Hiatt (Hanns), June Hadley (Robson), Margaret Bailey (Christie). Ruby Riach, (former lecturer in Needlework and now a Patron of the Alumni Association) spoke on behalf of the Patrons and talked of the many happy memories she had from her years at WWTC, and how she enjoys being able to keep in touch with ex students through the medium of Talkabout.

1949-50 Lew Morrell, Shirley Salter (Morcom), Lesley Rossetto (Tucker), Jeanette Perry (Porter), Sylvia Andrews (Fogarty), Athol Verdon. Shirley James (Cook), Margaret Watts (Broadribb), Bernice Munro (Press) Which Graeme Wilson do you know?

Graeme Wilson(1947-49) writes: “During my stays in School Residences at Boggabilla, Temora and Lithgow, I had a number of visits from teachers, passing through on their way home, at the beginning of vacations, seeking to re-acquaint with their college friend, one Graeme Wilson. Their disappointment was obvious when they realised that this was not the Graeme Wilson of their college days. Though I had known of the existence of my namesake for many years, it was not until this year’s reunion in Sydney that I had the pleasure of meeting him.”

1950-51 The photo above, with Graeme Wilson Phil Bastick, Rob Foulcher, Marshall Johnson, Merv Armstrong, Keith Cheney, Mal Hanratty, Bob (1947-49) on the left and Graeme Wilson Brownlie, Noel Bible, Lindsay Budd, Col O’Grady, Mick Rowlands, Geoff Gorman. (1949-50) on the right clearly shows the Gladys Meaney-Budd (Chapman), Robyn Ryan (Grant), Margaret Smith (Priest), Shirley Grant reason for their surprise. (Richards).

Page 5 TEACHING MEMORIES HARDY’S MILL PART 2 the school toilets were emptied and I there were a number of former was on the roster with the fathers of Yugoslav people living and working (Continuing the account of Ian the students to take my turn. I wonder in the mill, so I obtained materials to Thomas’ first appointment after what the reaction would be with many run English classes for them, This was leaving College -- Hardy's Mill via of our modern teachers if they had to yet another learning experience for Tumbarumba.) face up to this type of activity. me. Each year we usually had two or We left there as I said at the end of After about twelve months, the three heavy falls of snow there and it 1951, transferred to Meadow Flat need for our own transport became would make life difficult for the where at one time I had 42 pupils evident as we depended on neighbours smaller children to get through the squashed into the room and out on the for lifts into Tumbarumba. Purchasing snow. We had a routine for such days. very small verandah. that first car was a problem of its own. First we would light the Broadway What excitement this year when I We did not have enough money for stove so the school would get warm. learned that for the first time, one of such a purpose. Our next door Then I would take on all the children the younger sisters of children I had neighbour, who was a local girl, took in a snow fight in and around the trees. taught, was arranging a Hardy's Mill us to meet her father who owned a This was O.K. while the numbers reunion. Back we went after having property out of Tumbarumba. He were not too high but as we climbed left there almost 50 years ago and apparently approved of us and after up into the middle twenties, I found it having only seen two of the children enjoying afternoon tea with him, he mighty tough to avoid a walloping. since that time. The “children” I offered to guarantee our bank loan to After we'd all had enough we then taught are now in their late 50's or purchase the car. It was a wonderful went into school to get on with the early 60's and there were about ten of gesture and we have never forgotten day's work. Each afternoon I would them at this reunion. It was a very his generosity. read a story in serial form to the whole happy gathering and we received such The arrangement was that we had school, which was enjoyed by all. a warm welcome from everyone. As to collect the car in Sydney. It was to There was one occasion when we had you can imagine there was a great deal be ready on the Friday before the a fairly heavy fall of snow and only of talking at the dinner on the Queen's Birthday holiday. As all of two of the older children made it Saturday night and a lot of fun trying the families lived within half a mile of through the snow. Their reason for to identify people. The function was the school, it was easy to secure coming they said was so they could held in Tumbarumba and one permission from the parents to switch hear the next part of the particular courageous lady invited us all to the holiday from the Monday to the story I was reading at the time! breakfast at her home on the Sunday Friday, so off we went to Sydney. In extra-curricular activities Betty morning. Fortunately for her the There was no likelihood of the and I began a small union Sunday whole 100 + people present on Inspector coming to the school. We School following requests from Saturday night did not front up on always had a message from the parents. I encouraged residents to Sunday morning. Principal of Tumbarumba Central build a table tennis table and we Later in the morning we made a School letting us know well ahead of formed a club that met on Friday nostalgic trip to the mill site. The time, because he had to make a nights. That was great fun and we had school and mill closed down 30 years booking at the hotel, whenever the many a happy time. Betty established ago and there is nothing left of either Inspector made a visit to the district. a branch of the C.W.A. and that the mill or the houses and school. I did The road to the Mill was not an provided something different for the photograph some stumps of the easy one in wet weather so we ladies of the Mill with exchange visits wooden piers, which held up the purchased chains with the car as we to and from the Tumbarumba branch. school, and the remains of the sawdust frequently had to put them on to get She also had great enjoyment in patch are still visible but that was up the hills to the Mill. One of the running a physical culture class about all there was. Forestry workers other hazards on the road were the involving exercises and some simple have done some replanting and there wombats who quite often would dance routines. I became a foundation has been quite colossal regeneration choose to lumber across the road just member of a Toc H branch formed in including a wonderful lot of as a car came along. We would just Tumbarumba by the then Presbyterian blackberries. I found it very difficult wait patiently until they decided which Minister, Re. Colin Dane and we to picture exactly where all the houses way they wanted to go. became involved in various service were in our time. The bush generally Another interesting situation at the jobs in the general community. We has become very thick and it is hard to Mill were the toilets. With no sanitary formed a Progress Association of see very far. service and no pit toilets which we had Hardy's Mill residents. One of this The feeling was that we should in many country places, I, with the group's major achievements was to have another reunion in 3 to 5 years other men of each household, would, have a Post Office opened in the time so that will be something to look when the need arose, set off into the settlement after the writing of many, forward to in the future. scrub with a shovel in one hand and many letters. This brought a telephone filled bucket in the other, to attend the to the mill, which was a very Ian C. J. Thomas (1947- 49) necessary interment. In the same way, progressive move and proved very valuable for everyone. At that time

Page 6 TEACHING MEMORIES (Lindsay Budd has submitted another story At last I went to the door and called him Stephen folded his arms and defiantly from his experiences at his big city High in. replied, “I’m not gunna get the cane!” School. The names have been changed to “Hello, Stephen,” I began, “You have got It was obvious that I wasn’t getting protect the innocent - and not so innocent.) yourself in a bit of bother this time, anywhere, so I said, “I think you had better haven’t you?” take him home, Mrs Baker, and bring him THE BAKER INCIDENT He hung his head and answered sulkily, back when he is prepared to take his “Yes, Sir.” punishment.” I was sitting in my office systematically “You know that our discipline policy Mrs Baker walked out of my office in a attending to the mail that was piling up in prescribes specific punishments for huff followed by Stephen. I looked my in-tray. I was endeavouring to reach various offences. Mr Jones has told me through my window and watched them the bottom of the pile before Anne, my about your insolence to Mr Palmer. The walk towards the front gate. Mrs Baker senior assistant, could replenish it. She prescribed punishment is 4 cuts of the was yelling at Stephen and he was yelling seemed to take a perverse pleasure in cane. Don’t you agree that you deserve to back. ensuring that there was always something be punished?” By this time there were several staff in the in-tray. Whenever I neared the “I’m not going to get the cane!” members lined up waiting to see me. I had bottom of the pile she would mysteriously “I’m sorry, Stephen, but I’m afraid you just finished dealing with the third and was appear with another bundle of mail. are. You will not be allowed back in class writing myself a reminder note when Mrs There was a knock at the door and my until you have taken your punishment.. Baker appeared. She strode in and stood in Deputy, Stan Jones, sauntered in. He said, Now come on, let’s get it over with.” front of my desk with Stephen behind her. “We have had trouble with that Stephen I reached in behind my filing cabinet and “He’s going to take his punishment now,” Baker again. This time it’s a bit more brought out the cane, which I kept there. I she said. serious. He told his teacher to ‘Get walked around the desk and said, “OK, “Is that right, Stephen?” stuffed!’ in front of the other kids.” stand over there and hold out your hand. “Looks like it, eh?” Stephen muttered I asked: “Who was the teacher?” Two cuts on each. Which one first?” sullenly. “Geoff Palmer. He has been doing He folded his arms across his chest and I went over to the door, closed it, and then wonders with that class and the kids have hung his head. fetched the cane from behind the filing been responding very positively. This “Come on, Stephen,” I cajoled, “Hold your cabinet. spoilt brat, Stephen, however, flares up hand out and don’t be such a sook.” “OK, Stephen stand over here and hold out every now and again and can be very “No! I’m not gunna!” he declared. your hand.” I intended to give him a difficult. After this incident Geoff sent him “I’m sorry, Stephen, but if you won’t couple of light strokes to get it over with. to me to be caned and does not want him cooperate I am going to have to talk to “No. I’m not gunna!” back in class until he has taken his your mother.” By now I was becoming quite exasperated. punishment.” Stephen’s father had not been around for Mrs Baker was looking daggers at Stephen “That is fair enough,” I agreed. “Our seven years and his mother was trying, not so on an impulse I handed her the cane and discipline policy states that verbal abuse is very successfully, to control Stephen and said, “Here, Mrs Baker, I am only allowed a caning offence. Cane him and send him his young brother. I sat at my desk and to hit him on the palm of his hand but you back to class.” wrote a note to Mrs Baker briefly can hit him anywhere you like.” “I tried,” said Stan “but he wouldn’t hold explaining the circumstances and asking She appeared a bit startled by my his hand out.” her to come to school to discuss the matter suggestion but by now she had become “Ah, yes,” I remembered. “That happened with me. rather irate. She took the cane and gave the last time he was to be caned and Dick “Here, Stephen, it is almost time for the Stephen a sharp swipe across the back of let him off when he promised to be a good bell. I am letting you go home now his legs. boy. I guess he is trying the same trick because I want you to take this note to Stephen was more shocked than hurt and again.” your Mum. You tell Mum what it is all he yelled, “Shit, Mum, that hurt!” “What do you think I should do?” Stan about and I will expect to see you both in “Yes,” she said, “and this is going to hurt asked. the morning.” more!” She proceeded to give him several “Try again, Stan, and if he still won’t The next morning half an hour after school more whacks as he hopped and howled, cooperate, send him to me. He is not going started Mrs Baker arrived with Stephen. “Hey, stop it, Mum!” to get away with it again.” She was obviously annoyed at being Eventually I retrieved the cane and said, “OK,” said Stan. “I’ll see what I can do.” summoned to school and opened with “Thank you, Mrs Baker. Stephen has About half an hour later I heard Stan’s “Why can’t Stephen go back into class?” received his punishment and can now be voice coming from the foyer saying I conducted them both into my office and allowed back into class. I hope I don’t loudly, “Stand over there and don’t move said, “Sit down Mrs Baker and thank you have to ask for your assistance again.” until I tell you to!” for coming. You know that we don’t Mrs Baker shook her finger at Stephen Stan strode into my office and it was tolerate pupils swearing at the teachers. who was rubbing his legs and snivelling. obvious that he was very annoyed. Stephen knows what the punishment is but “You’d better behave yourself, you hear “It didn’t work.” He said. “He still is not being very cooperative.” me?” wouldn’t hold his hand out. Like most Mrs Baker turned to Stephen and asked: I opened the door and ushered her out. I bullies the little bugger is basically a “Did you swear at the teacher?” then turned to Stephen and said, “You go coward.” Stephen reluctantly replied, “I suppose and tell Mr Jones that you have taken your “Oh, well,” I said, “We’ll leave him out so…..”. punishment. Then after you apologize to there for a while to calm down. Then I’ll “Well you heard Mr Budd. You know you Mr Palmer you can return to class.” have a talk to him and spell out what he have to get the cane. Now hurry up about As he turned to go I called to him, “And has to do to get back into class.” it. I have things to do.” Stephen, stay out of trouble or I will send “Righto,” Stan said, “Best of luck!” I reached for the cane and said, “Come on, for your mother!” I continued filing the pile of documents I Stephen, over here and hold out.” had gone through while I thought about Lindsay Budd (1950-51) how I would deal with young Stephen.

Page 7 TEACHING MEMORIES After graduating from Wagga move into secondary education. I EXCUSE NOTES Wagga Teachers’ College at the end opted for the latter and was lucky of 1952 I had an unusual start to what enough to secure an appointment to These are actual excuse notes from later became a varied and interesting Tamworth High School. This was parents (including original spelling) career. Three days after leaving quite a cultural change – not only was collected by teachers over the years. College I suffered a badly broken leg I moving from primary to secondary which would require some months in teaching but also moving from a Megan could not come to school plaster. Expecting that I would be school with myself and 11 pupils to today because she has been appointed to some remote small the second largest school in the state bothered by very close veins. school, I contacted the Department with 1650 pupils and 75 teachers. and requested an appointment where After being there for a fortnight I was Please excuse Tommy for being medical facilities were available and inspected for List 1. The Inspector absent yesterday. He had diarrhea was appointed to a large Class 1 made the comment that I appeared to and his boots leak. school at Brighton-le-Sands. At the be “still settling down”. Please excuse Pamela, she has start of Term I arrived at Brighton-le- The eight years at Tamworth were been sick and under the doctor. Sands on crutches, with my leg in happy and prosperous – we built our plaster to the hip and was allocated a first home; had two children; I was Please excuse Gloria from Jim class of 53 boys in one room. The O.C. of Tamworth High Cadet Unit; today. She is administrating. crutches proved to be handy teaching advisor and tutor for U.N.E. External Please excuse Jennifer for missing aids. Students; taught at the Evening school yesterday. We forgot to get After 6 months the Dept found College three nights a week; obtained the Sunday paper off the porch, they needed that position for someone List 2 Secondary. Altogether a very and when we found it Monday, we more senior, so I suddenly found busy time as my wife Shirley worked thought it was Sunday. myself transferred to Federal, a two as Supervisor of a Pre School teacher school near Lismore where I Kindergarten. I kept Billie home because she had taught the Lower Division for two and At the start of 1971 I was to go Christmas shopping because a half years. This was an enjoyable appointed as Commerce Master at I don't know what size she wear. period of service as this was a close Tweed River High School (later Please excuse Mary for being knit, rural community and I was able known as Social Sciences Master) and absent yesterday. She was in bed to play cricket and tennis with local this was to become 15 years in that with gramps. teams, participate in many local position during which I gained List 3 functions and form a relationship with Secondary. I became very involved in Please excuse Pedro from being a local girl who later became my wife. the Lions Club and quite a number of absent yesterday. He had (diahre) At the start of 1956 I was other community organisations. In (dyrea) (direathe) the shits. [words appointed to a very isolated one 1981 my wife opened a fabrics and were crossed out in the ( )'s] teacher school at Farnham in the haberdashery shop in Tweed Heads Please excuse Roland from P.E. central west. This was situated on a and this is still operating 21 years for a few days. Yesterday he fell large gold mining reserve known later. I have been involved in the out of a tree and misplaced his hip. locally as “the Common”. Any person business during that time. who took out a miner’s right for a In 1986 I was appointed Deputy Chris will not be in school cus he small fee could build a house on the Principal at Mullumbimby High has an acre in his side. Common and there was no building School and spent 6 very satisfying regulations or restrictions. years in that position finally retiring in Please excuse Lisa for being Consequently some of the pupils came 1992. I now spend my time helping in absent. She was sick and I had her from houses built out of any material the business; wood turning,; restoring shot. which could be begged, borrowed or and making furniture and looking after Dear School: Please ekscuse John otherwise acquired – hessian, wattle our house and flats. being absent on Jan. 28, 29, 30, and daub, kerosene tins etc. These Ian Manwaring 1951-52 31, 32, and also 33. contrasted with the three or four pupils from surrounding graziers’ families. Maryann was absent December POSSIBLE REUNION 11-16, because she had a fever, Despite the isolation I was again OF PIONEER SESSION able to join in many community and sore throat, headache and upset At the recent reunion in July, the few sporting activities at Farnham and stomach. Her sister was also sick, 1947-49 members present, talked nearby Stuart Town. After two years I fever and sore throat, her brother about the idea of a reunion of this married in Lismore and returned to had a low grade fever and ached session only. If any members of this live at Farnham for another five years. all over. I wasn't the best either, pioneer group are interested in such a I enrolled in the University of New sore throat and fever. There must gathering, please contact Ian Thomas England External Studies Scheme in be something going around, her at PO Box 163 Thirlmere 2572 NSW 1957 and graduated Bachelor of Arts father even got hot last night. (Ph 02 46831477) in 1962. Then came decision time – whether to stay in primary teaching or

Page 8 LETTERS PAGE 39 Chellowdene Ave, Like me, not all of the 61-62 group an adjustment for a country girl but Stanwell Park 2508 finished as teachers. Some had I’m still here forty odd years later! I Dear Lindsay, retrained as chiropractors, artists, and was lucky to have a Mr John I was delighted to receive a second academics and had other interesting Anderson as my first headmaster – he copy of Talkabout after the first occupations. Nevertheless teaching was quite happy to sit and chat in our unexpected copy. In fact, I still have a still remained my first love at least. lunch hour about poetry, literature, couple of relics from those 1961-62 Thank you all for having the energy music, antiques, etc and contributed WWTC days hidden with assorted and enthusiasm to resurrect Talkabout. greatly to the continuing education of scraps and mementos from school, I look forward to the next issue. one of his three newly appointed college and university days (UNE) in Yours sincerely, teachers that year. a dark cupboard. Pat Simpson (Leahy) 1961-62 Between 1972 and 1981 I did varying Our 61-62 years have had a couple of amounts of casual teaching but found reunions so far so I presume it is not 75 Hunter Ave it rather frustrating, so left to change beyond the realms of possibility that St Ives 2075 direction. However, I found I really this may happen again. I even attended Dear Sir, loved the atmosphere of schools so a 50 year reunion of my kindergarten Please find enclosed a small donation ended up spending many years as a class 2 years ago. Port Kembla Public towards the printing of Talkabout. clerical assistant in secondary schools. School was about to be moved to new When the publication first began The pay was tragic but every day was premises and we were the chosen arriving in the mail, I was surprised interesting and different. class. Just as Wagga graduates felt a but mildly interested to receive it but Looking forward to the next issue of certain kinship in identifying as time has gone on and I have Talkabout. themselves, so too did we, the raggle recognised names known and/or Shirley Luttrell (Johnston) 1957-58 taggle collection of kids from 1948-49 remembered I have begun to look Kindergarten. forward to its arrival; so thought it was Lew Morrell received a most As with Wagga, there was a tightly about time to make a contribution to interesting audio tape from Ruth knit group of people who remembered its printing – especially after the July Hutson an ex-student of the 1949/50 names and early histories from early issue which caused quite a few session. Ruth has retired at Kiama childhood. This is not always an chuckles. Downs. advantage. Wagga was really like a I was sorry to read of the death of On the tape she speaks of her villa, her public boarding school with some of Neville Latham. Before becoming a pets, the beauty of the area, its us as young s 16 in our first year. student, I had worked for nearly two amenities and her upcoming 70th When I think of today’s young student years as an assistant in the college birthday. teachers they are certainly older in library mostly with librarian, Robert She is located at 4/25 Tarrant Avenue, years and perhaps in experience, but Langker. Having already completed a Kiama Downs. 2533. Her phone not necessarily better trained in the secretarial course, I was asked to assist number is 42376662 and she extends actual practice of teaching. Mr Latham by typing of reports, etc. I an invitation to any ex-students I had a varied school career teaching remember him as ever a thoughtful, passing her way to visit her. Just as a primary school teacher at considerate gentleman – and gentle phone her and you will be made very Shellharbour, Birrong, Tumut, Broken man – who set a wonderful example of welcome to spend some time Hill, Mt Warrigal, Helensburgh, East getting on with life despite the reminiscing over coffee or tea and Corrimal, Towradgi then back to setbacks that life can dish out. some goodies. Helensburgh as a Teacher Librarian. As I was older and already happily On the way I gained a partner (fellow established in a Wagga residence with SOUTHERN HIGHLANDS teacher and teacher union official and a great landlady, I elected to stay there GARDEN FESTIVAL BOS member Charles Simpson), two and not board in college. Perhaps for children, a house, a BA, M Litt (UNE) that reason I did not form such close The Spring Calendar for the and a Grad Dip School Librarianship attachments to college life as some Southern Highlands featuring major (CSU). fellow student s did, and in fact some horticultural events will include Not satisfied with the above I then of the restrictions/rules I thought "Rose Days" at Kennerton Green stood for election as Research Officer rather childish and unnecessarily Garden, Mittagong, 10th - 11th in the NSW Teachers Federation. Two restrictive. However I thoroughly November. years ago I retired as Assistant enjoyed most lectures, especially those A selection of Botanic Paintings General Secretary Research and of Mr Grant and Dr Eric Pearson, who by Jennifer Small, WWTC. 1957/58 Industrial after 12 years in the inspired me to look beyond the will be on view in the Gallery. Federation. My last position was a obvious cause of a child’s problem. Jennifer will be present on both large responsibility as I coordinated In due course I was appointed to a days so please make yourself known the work of the Research and Sydney school, Mortlake Primary, if you call in. Industrial Officers in advocacy work where I passed five happy years Garden Festival Hotline is 1300 for teachers including pay claims from before leaving to start my family. 722 822 1992 onwards. Living in a big city was somewhat of

Page 9 COLLEGE MEMORIES shift desk against an uninspiring blank aggravated by onset of flu, and A BRUSH WITH THE LAW. wall, complaining over an assignment, bursting into the room, I asked Arthur with both hands nursing a troubled Bailey if he would lend his bike to go (in memory of Arthur Bailey 1957-58) head: “I’ll never get through this!” for a can of petrol. It was already Obviously he did, and in due course getting dark, but Arthur obliged, and It was 1957, we’d been rehearsing much more besides. We counted as snatching up his bike out back near a hard under the patient guidance of many as 14 or more tenants in 4 or 5 rickety weatherboard shed, I jumped Laurie Orchard and Jess Ferguson for rooms of that house, at about four on with my can and turned into the HMS Pinafore. Lectures during the pounds per week, “She must be filthy road. Careering and lurching along day, and rehearsals at night had its toll rich”, we figured. with a can in one hand and bent over on assignment progress. That’s when We were always in some sort of trying to switch on the generator, it some of us discovered that trouble with our accommodating was just beginning to register that the assignments handed in late could be landlady, who took exception to any generator wasn’t working when a penalised and pleas for some latitude initiative we thought would improve brilliant light appeared ahead of me: fell on “deaf ears”. our boarding existence, and especially “Pull over, rider!” Still smarting from such a rebuff, anything threatening the profits gained Ulp! Motor cycle cop! we went along the wooden slatted by rent. John Harris has reminded me “Explain why you are riding in the verandas to the next lecture. We sat that she used to leave prominent price dark without a light, please?” around the edges of the lecture room labels on bottles and jars to reveal the (Useful teaching strategy that: looking at each other like dance-hall great expenses endured for our commanding but with the attached wallflowers, making wisecracks and benefit. courtesy at the end). general chatter while waiting for Eric While we were at lectures, she After some pathetic excuse, and a Pearson to bring a Clinical Education would investigate our rooms and tirade from the officer, I was so lecture. promptly remove anything that was absorbed in what I was trying to do in The congenial atmosphere was not “approved”. If anything went the next 30 minutes, that unwittingly I soon shaken by the appearance of a missing, there were no prizes for just jumped straight back on the bike police constable at the door, and some figuring out who had it. “You can and peddled off to the garage, leaving of us began wisecracking about police have it back at the end of term to take the officer probably fuming. and who was wanted by the long arm home”, she’d say. The offending generator was fixed of the law. To the astonishment of all, She never discovered that Ken and with the benefit of lights at the garage, the constable announced my name, Des used to remove the mattresses but of course by this time, the ire of and issued a notice to appear in court from the beds to use as jumping mats authority had already commenced its for a traffic offence. for some serious athletic exploits, course. Back at the boarding house, a Bewildered, I read the notice, during which they instructed me in the hurried meal was swallowed, and trying to make sense of the details: “ fine arts of performing back flips and rehearsals reached just in time. did ride a bicycle in a westerly mid-air somersaults. Nor did she The judge made a few remarks, direction without a light after dark in discover that after locking us out of and asked if the defendant had Gurwood St on ……etc.” the kitchen fridge with an enormous anything to say. “Er, ah, Yes, um Sir, What? When did I do that? This is lock and chain, we devised a siphon er your majes … er, yoronnor. I did a frame-up, …and similar thoughts. tube inserted through a gap in the door have a light, but (short of a sensible Then slowly, the blood drained from to extract milk from its large boiler excuse).. er.. it wasn’t working.” an already stunned brain as the truth pot. Without hesitation, the judge began to dawn. Oh! Er! Yes! Well, after lectures one day, an declared: “It’s your business to make At Ma Saxon’s boarding house in assignment was due by 5 pm and I still sure that lights on vehicles work when Gurwood St, rooms were shared had to deliver it. This was achieved they are required. Fined two pounds!” between Arthur Bailey, Alan Petersen, with barely minutes to spare, but a That fine made a heavy dent in the (John Harris before my arrival), Ken TCCF meeting followed immediately, monthly allowance, but from then on, Bond and Des Crawley, and maybe a which didn’t finish until 6 pm. We I was at least definitely more careful few others at different times. I still were required at the auditorium for to keep a full can of fuel in the boot. clearly remember Des singing La Mer rehearsals by 7 pm, and there was still which played regularly on radio at the the evening meal to be had at the Bob Drummond (1957-58) time: “First the tide comes rolling in boarding house. …”, but he would then proceed with The (sometimes) trusty old ’47 “and then goes rolling out, and then Standard sedan ran out of petrol comes rolling in, and then … etc” over (thanks to Murphy) near the Bayliss St and over until the novelty wore off or cinema where the Bolshoi Ballet was somebody threw something at him. I showing Swan Lake. So it meant can see Des slumped at a flimsy make- shank’s pony on the double to Gurwood St. Gasping for breath

Page 10 CONTRIBUTIONS TO TALKABOUT WHERE ARE THEY NOW

The Committee wishes to acknowledge with thanks, those alumni who have contributed at least $10 since the publication of the last Talkabout.

Billie Andrew Lew Morrell Sylvia Andrews Judy Morrison Ellenor Armstrong Elizabeth Morrow Shirley Barry Dawn Neill Beverley Baulch Richard O’Connor Jan Bell Harvey Ord Beverly Bennett Ken Paine Lex Bittar Roy and Joan Parker Faye Blackhurst Helen Patton Julie and Allan Blyth Ralph Perrott Helen Borcher Allan and Welwyn Petersen Ron Brenchley Guy Pickering Elaine Bridges Peter Pritchard Margaret Brown Ed Raskell Barry Brown Andy and Jacqui Raine Gordon Bruton Ruby Riach Marshall Johnson and Malcolm Robert Cady Fred Rice Hanratty graduated in 1951 and were Malcolm Clune Norma Robertson both appointed to Forbes Public Beverley Collett Harry and Lesley Rossetto Priscilla Collins Kenneth Ryan School. Marcia Commins Ralph Sadler They kept in touch through the years Barry Conway Jan Saunders and met up again at the recent reunion. Enid Coughlan Anthony Sherlock Don and Thel Davis Les Shore Margaret Day Diane Shore John and Helen Diemar Lorraine and Tom Shuker Kevin Farrell Patricia Smith Gwen Ferguson Trevor and Beverley Somerville Edward Fowler Joan Stanford Henry and Margaret Gardiner Norman Stanton Frances Gavel Roy Strange Jessie Glover Dorothy Sturmer Inta Gollasch Jennifer Svenson Ann Gray John Thebridge Beverley Hamilton Janette Thomas Alison Harrison Margaret Tosello John Hough John and Pam Trewin Yvonne Hough Susan Truin Noreen Hunt Kevin Tye Ian Huxley Hugh Varnes Beverley Inall Moira Walker Beverley Irving Nita Walshe Marshall Johnson Alan Weldrick Mary Kanaley Peter and Denise Whelan Tricia Kavanagh/Brereton Graeme Wilson Malcolm now runs the Poplars Motel Kay Killick Helen Wood near Mittagong and Marshall has Arthur and Margaret King Helen Woods retired to St Ives. Henry Lohse James Writer Barbara Luelf Murray Luke ALUMNI ASSOCIATION Shirley Luttrell MEETINGS Mona Lynam Peggy MacBeth Please note that the next Alumni Ian Manwaring Association Meeting has been William Maskey changed to Tuesday, 13th November. Ross McDonald Dr Peter Hodgson from CSU will Neil McKilligan attend to discuss Scholarship criteria. John and Carmel McNeill Shirley Meredith The Annual General Meeting will be Nancy Milgate held at 11 am on Tuesday 5th Bruce Molloy February, 2002. Enid Monaghan

Page 11 VALE KEN HEATH (1927 – 2001) LETTERS

The following letter was received from Dr Colin Yarham (1948-50). Colin is the Director of the organisation Health Education & Promotion International Inc that is dedicated to the development of the health and well-being of all children wherever they may be. Information about HEPI can be found on the website: www.hepi.net.

Geoff Gorman, Pam Holman (Clayton), Joyce Todd, Ken Heath at a College Ball in 1951.

Ken Heath was the popular President Ken started teaching at Carlingford of the Students Representative Primary and married his school Council in 1951. sweetheart Margaret. After being After leaving school he completed a transferred to Spicer’s Creek he Diploma in Aeronautical Engineering decided to leave teaching and try his and commenced working with the luck at Turkey farming, so he bought CSIRO. into “Sunny Ridge”. He then started at Wagga Teachers College in June 1950. He eventually sold the Turkey farm to Tegals and purchased the Ford Dear Lindsay, He conceived the idea of presenting Agency in Quirindi and then an Good to have the chance to have a the College with a park. The area Engineering company. yarn to you today and particularly to between the Gym and the lecture He was chairman of a company thank you for all your efforts on behalf block was chosen and the park was Habitat and Castle Mountain Pty Ltd, of the alumni Association. called Warradgery Park. Athol which he formed to handle Zeolite Have particularly enjoyed reading the Berglund made a scale model and exploration. various editions of ‘Talkabout’, Alan Roberts did a watercolour of his He held office in Rotary, National sharing in some or the reminiscences conception of the completed park. Party, Anglican Parish Council, and keeping up with news of friends. All students of the session assisted Retirement Homes Ass., and in 2000 Of course was upset at hearing of the with the work and financed the was presented with the Council award passing of Ev McCloughan whom I scheme. for Community Services. had maintained contact with over the years. I had a great interest in learning some news of Arthur Ashworth, as not only did he lecture me in College, but taught me at Uranquinty School when I was about 9 years old. I subsequently was happily able to make contact with him and found him in very good spirits and able to talk for a short time, despite his 96 years of age. Herewith a copy of the HEPI pamphlet which tells a little of the work my group does ‘for the love and care of children’ in various countries around the world. When one is on the ground and sees the very real need of so many little ones, there is no doubt in my mind where I should be. Again with appreciation, Working in the Park. Colin. Do you recognise the workers?

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