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Januarie 2008 Bundels Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3037
Datum: Tue Jan 1, 2008
Daar is 11 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: VIR JAN v. Rooy: Sterfbesonderhede - Van Rooy-Poisat From: Jan van Rooy
1b. RALL - afsterwe van my swaer From: Hannelie Barkhuizen
2a. Re: Raad asseblief vir fotos na soekbare data onskakel From: Johan Vermeulen
3. DIE JAAR 2008 From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
4. GOOGLE BOOKS From: Daniel Jacobs
5a. Anna Adriana Hendrina Woest From: Japie Bosch
5b. Re: Anna Adriana Hendrina Woest (vir Japie Bosch) From: Charlie Els
6. VENTER FAMILY. From: Roy Venter
7a. Re: begraafplaas fotos From: Anne Rust
7b. Re: begraafplaas fotos From: Alta Griffiths
8. Re: : Begraafplase Marico en Zeerust fotos From: obie oberholster Boodskap 1a. Re: VIR JAN v. Rooy: Sterfbesonderhede - Van Rooy-Poisat Posted by: "Jan van Rooy" [email protected] jlvanrooy Tue Jan 1, 2008 12:50 am (PST)
Simon
Dis nou 'n lekker Nuwe Jaar present!
Baie dankie vir die inligting. Nou kort ek nog net twee sterftebesonderhede van die stamvader van die Van Rooys se kleinkinders.
Voorspoed vir jou en jou gesin/familie vir 2008!
Groete Jan van Rooy
1b. RALL - afsterwe van my swaer Posted by: "Hannelie Barkhuizen" [email protected] Sparkeyn Tue Jan 1, 2008 10:05 pm (PST)
Hi julle,
Pieter Christiaan RALL
*14/06/1965 + 27/12/2007
Gedenkdiens sal op 03/01/2008 wees.
Hannelie Barkhuizen
Boodskap 2a. Re: Raad asseblief vir fotos na soekbare data onskakel Posted by: "Johan Vermeulen" [email protected] johanvermsa Tue Jan 1, 2008 1:18 am (PST)
Beste Annelie,
Watter jare se Nonqoai bundles het jy afgeneem.
Ek was self vanaf 1957 in die SAPolisie en sal graag toegang tot die fotos, wanneer jy dit verwerk het wil, wil verkry.
Groete
Johan.
Boodskap 3. DIE JAAR 2008 Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Tue Jan 1, 2008 2:14 am (PST)
Dagsê alle lyslede
Mag 2008 vir ons almal 'n wonderlike jaar wees gevul met onse Vader se ryke seëninge soos wat Hy goeddink ons mag benodig. Ek hoop elkeen het sy hand styf in ons Hemelse Vader s'n.
Ek hoop ook ons het meer suksesse in ons soektogte.
Ek het vanoggend eers by die e-posse weer uitgekom en ek moet nog deur alles werk. Ek sien ek het 'n navraag, Arend ek sal vir jou opkyk of ek so 'n persoon in my data het. Net so bietjie geduld.
Groete vanuit 'n vreeslike warm, bedompige Nylstroom. Die Bosveld kook weer vandag.
Geniet julle dag.
Berna
Boodskap 4. GOOGLE BOOKS Posted by: "Daniel Jacobs" [email protected] Tue Jan 1, 2008 9:45 am (PST)
Beste Vriende
Ek het nog iets m.b.t. GOOGLE BOOKS agtergekom wat dalk ook vir julle van waarde kan wees. Gaan na http://books.google.com/bkshp?hl=en&tab=wp
As jy in jou soektog na inligting boeke teenkom wat oor Suid-Afrikaanse geskiedenis/kultuurgeskiedenis handel kan jy jou eie biblioteek saamstel deur gebruik te maak van die ADD TO MY LIBRARY skakel.
Die voordeel daarvan is dat jy dan 'n lys van boeke het waarheen jy kan teruggaan en jy kan verder ook soektogte doen op die boeke in jou biblioteek.
Dit is verstommend hoe baie boeke oor Sudi-Afrika reeds in Google se databasis voorkom.
Hiermee 'n paar titels:
Travels and Adventures in Southern Africa
[image: Pioneer Travellers of South Africa: A Geographical Commentary Upon Routes ...]
[image: Jacob Van Reenen and the Grosvenor Expedition of 1790-1791]
[image: Journal of Jan Van Riebeeck]
[image: Nog verder noord: die Potgieter-kommissie se besoek aan die gebied van die ...]
[image: Die trekboer in die geskiedenis van die kaapkolonie (1657-1842)]
[image: Maynier and the First Boer Republic]
[image: Die Kafferoorlog van 1793]
[image: Pioniers van die dorsland]
Groete
Daniel Jacobs
Boodskap 5a. Anna Adriana Hendrina Woest Posted by: "Japie Bosch" [email protected] boschjapie Tue Jan 1, 2008 1:00 pm (PST)
Kan iemand my altemit help met die ouers van bogenoemde Woest (1805 - 1839). Sy was getroud met George Gravett (1801 - 1837).
By voorbaat dankie.
Boodskap 5b. Re: Anna Adriana Hendrina Woest (vir Japie Bosch) Posted by: "Charlie Els" [email protected] charlieels Tue Jan 1, 2008 3:12 pm (PST)
Hallo Japie,
Al wat ek het is dat sy ook bekend is as Hannah Hendriena (of Adriana) WOEST, ~Graaff-Reinet 7/9/1806, dv Barend WOEST (+1886 in Alice), x Grahamstown 5/2/1825 George GRAVETT. Hulle het 7 kinders gehad.
As jy meer oor haar uitvind, laat weet my ook asseblief.
Groete,
CHARLIE
Boodskap 6. VENTER FAMILY. Posted by: "Roy Venter" [email protected] wepener1 Tue Jan 1, 2008 4:33 pm (PST)
Goeie dag,
Ek wonder of daar iemand is wat kan help. Ek is op soek na details van `n Venter.
2.Father of 1:Christoffel Roudolph Venter 370932518w
Born: 14/08/1911
Place: Potchefstroom
Married:
Place: Johannesburg, South Africa
Died: 13/03/1973
Place: Lenz (Johannesburg) South Africa
Volgens die "Death Notice" is bogenoemde se Vader se naam Christoffel Venter en die moeder se naam is Johanna.
Is daar dalk iemand wat sal kan help?
Groete,
Roy Venter Auckland New Zealand.
Boodskap 7a. Re: begraafplaas fotos Posted by: "Anne Rust" [email protected] anne.rust Tue Jan 1, 2008 9:27 pm (PST)
Ek wil graag weet of daar iemand is wat in die volgende areas fots van grafte neem: Malmesbury, Paarl, Groot Marico, en Zeerust?
Dankie
Anne
Boodskap 7b. Re: begraafplaas fotos Posted by: "Alta Griffiths" [email protected] griffithsalta Tue Jan 1, 2008 11:02 pm (PST)
Anne ons het van die grafte, in die 4 dorpe, op eGGSA. http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php
Groete
Alta Griffiths Posbus 1998 DURBANVILLE 7551
Tel: 021 - 975 5491 Sel: 083 948 5207
Navorsing: Volle vanne:- Rudolph, Van der Sandt, Gloy, Cothill. Asook die Oliviers en Slabberts van Heidelberg, Tvl tot by 1930
Boodskap 8. Re: : Begraafplase Marico en Zeerust fotos Posted by: "obie oberholster" [email protected] obieoberholster Tue Jan 1, 2008 11:33 pm (PST)
Hi Anne,
Doen jy navorsing op die Rust Familie ook??? My Ouma was n nooi Rust, Maria Jacoba Elizabeth.
Ek stel ook belang in die begraafplase van Groot Marico, en Zeerust, en meer spesifiek Oberholzer en Oberholster. Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3038
Datum: Wed Jan 2, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1. Hurn From: Louis Hurn
2a. Anna Adriana Hendrina Woest (vir Charlie Els) From: Japie Bosch
2b. Anna Adriana Hendrina Woest (vir Charlie Els) From: Japie Bosch
2c. Re: Anna Adriana Hendrina Woest (vir Charlie Els) From: Charlie Els
3. BRINK/PANTER EN BRINK/FABRICIUS From: Johan Brink
4. BOEK OPSOEK asseblief From: Gene Milton
5a. Re: begraafplaas fotos From: Annemie Lourens
5b. Re: begraafplaas fotos From: Anne Rust
5c. RUST Familie From: aneendewitt
5d. Re: RUST Familie From: Anne Rust
6a. Bekker From: anita slabbert
7a. Philledelphia dope From: anita slabbert
7b. Re: Philledelphia dope From: Annemie Lourens
8. Re: Fwd: Danie Theron From: Lucas Rinken
9. Welkom terug From: Louis Olivier
10. Lyswyshede 8 From: Simon du Plooy
11a. Re: Anna Adriana Hendrina Woest (vir Japie Bosch) From: Janet Melville
12. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 02 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
13. Van der Linden/Gerber From: Anne Rust
14. [Koerant] The Mercury Woensdag 2 Jan 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
15a. Re: RALL - afsterwe van my swaer From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
16. (Koerant) Beeld 05 Des. 2007 From: Fanie Blignaut
17. (Koerant) Beeld 06 Des. 2007 From: Fanie Blignaut
18. (Koerant) Beeld 07 Des. 2007 From: Fanie Blignaut
19. (Koerant) Beeld 08 Des. 2007 From: Fanie Blignaut Boodskap 1. Hurn Posted by: "Louis Hurn" [email protected] ljhurn Wed Jan 2, 2008 1:24 am (PST)
Hallo almal,
Baie dankie vir al die hulp van ieder en elkeen van julle tot dusver, ek waardeer elke bydrae. Net om almal te laat weet my webwerf is nou oop, besoek dit asseblief en kyk of julle my verder kan help om dit uit te brei.
Spesiaal vir Dennis en sy span, julle is staatmakers en julle hulp en leiding is absoluut puik! Baie dankie. http://www.onsfamilie.info/register.php?personID=I399&tree=Hurn&generations=10
Weereens baie dankie en voorspoed vir 2008 vir ieder en elkeen
Groete uit 'n snik-warm Durban Louis en Wynona Hurn
Boodskap 2a. Anna Adriana Hendrina Woest (vir Charlie Els) Posted by: "Japie Bosch" [email protected] boschjapie Wed Jan 2, 2008 1:25 am (PST)
Hallo Charlie
Dankie vir die inligting oor bogenoemde. Die inligting wat ek oor haar het, het ek gekry van www.1820settlers.com. Klik op "1820 Settler Info" en sleutel haar naam in. Haar man en hul kinders se besonderhede is redelik volledig.
2008-groete
Japie Bosch
Boodskap 2b. Anna Adriana Hendrina Woest (vir Charlie Els) Posted by: "Japie Bosch" [email protected] boschjapie Wed Jan 2, 2008 1:26 am (PST)
Hallo Charlie
Dankie vir die inligting oor bogenoemde. Die inligting wat ek oor haar het, het ek gekry van www.1820settlers.com. Klik op "1820 Settler Info" en sleutel haar naam in. Haar man en hul kinders se besonderhede is redelik volledig.
2008-groete
Japie Bosch
Boodskap 2c. Re: Anna Adriana Hendrina Woest (vir Charlie Els) Posted by: "Charlie Els" [email protected] charlieels Wed Jan 2, 2008 4:58 am (PST)
Hallo Japie,
Nee, verstommend kry die soekfasiliteit op die webblad niks oor Woest of Gravett nie. Selfs 'n soek spesifiek net in die "Gravett Family Tree" wat daarop is, gee die resultaat "No results found for Last Name contains gravett AND First Name contains george AND tree equals 29 . Please try again."
Ek weet nie wat is fout nie?
Groete, CHARLIE
Boodskap 3. BRINK/PANTER EN BRINK/FABRICIUS Posted by: "Johan Brink" [email protected] Wed Jan 2, 2008 1:41 am (PST)
Ek soek duideliker genealogiese gegewens van die ondergenoemde persone sodat ek die BRINK in die groter stamboom geplaas kan kry:
Johannes Hendrik Nicolaas (alias John Henry) BRINK, boer "Zaaihoek" Middelburg Tvl *Swellendam ca.1842 +(60jr; Burgerkamp) Middelburg 11.2.1902 x Hanover,K.P, Maria/ Marian PANTER {dalk dv stamvader John Edward en Margaretha Johanna WOLTON, vlgs Malherbe, p756 } 2s 1d [vlgs sy SK]
Kan iemand dalk help of my na die regte mense verwys?
Groete
Johan Brink
Boodskap 4. BOEK OPSOEK asseblief Posted by: "Gene Milton" [email protected] gene.milton Wed Jan 2, 2008 3:46 am (PST)
Hi al die lyslede
Kan iemand dalk help ek is opsoek na inligting in a boek MORE ANNALS OF NATAL deur Prof. A>F> Hattersley (Shuter en Shooter, Pietermaritzburg, 1936) waar die skrywer verwys na "Reminiscences" van Carl Wilhelm PISTORIUS bladsy 114.
Die ander boek is deur Ruth Gordon THE PLACE OF THE ELEPHANT:a history of Pietermaritsburg waar sy baie inligting gee oor die geboue in Pietermaritzburg wat deur PISTORIUS gebou was (Shuter en Shooter 1981)
Byvoorbaart dankie Gene Milton Randburg
Boodskap 5a. Re: begraafplaas fotos Posted by: "Annemie Lourens" [email protected] annemielourens Wed Jan 2, 2008 4:45 am (PST)
Goeiedag
Ek het feitlik die hele Malmesbury se ou begrafplaas afgeneem. Daar is meer as 5 Rust grafte. Die grafte se foto's het ek gelaai op eggsa se Biblioteek. Ek het ook foto's van Darling en die hele Hopefield Begrafplaas. Onthou die Rusts het geboer tussen Malmesbury en Moorreesburg vandaar die plek Ruststasie. Dus kan daar heelwat Rust familie ook in Moorreesburg begrafplaas wees.
Ek het verlede week baie foto's geneem van 'n begrafplaas in Elandsbaai en van die begrafplaas in Aurora as iemand belangstel.
Groete Annemie Lourens
Boodskap 5b. Re: begraafplaas fotos Posted by: "Anne Rust" [email protected] anne.rust Wed Jan 2, 2008 7:19 am (PST)
Dankie Annelie,
Weet jy dalk of daar al fotos van die begraafplase op Mooreesburg geneem is.
Anne
Boodskap 5c. RUST Familie Posted by: "aneendewitt" [email protected] aneendewitt Wed Jan 2, 2008 7:29 am (PST)
Hello Anne en Annemie
Ek las sommer 'n paar RUST goed aan. Skuus as julle dit reeds het. http://public.fotki.com/kroese/rust/ http://trees.ancestry.com/fhs/home.aspx?tid=1947163
Groete, Aneen
Boodskap 5d. Re: RUST Familie Posted by: "Anne Rust" [email protected] anne.rust Wed Jan 2, 2008 12:31 pm (PST)
Baie Dankie Aneen,
Dit help baie!
Boodskap 6a. Bekker Posted by: "anita slabbert" [email protected] Wed Jan 2, 2008 5:56 am (PST)
Dagse lyslede en mag julle 'n vreeslose 2008 beleef. Weet iemand dalk wie die ouers was van Christiaan Bekker *1935 Dordrecht.
Anita, uit 'n koel Melkbosstrand
Boodskap 7a. Philledelphia dope Posted by: "anita slabbert" [email protected] Wed Jan 2, 2008 5:59 am (PST)
Dagse medegeners
Ek wil graag weet of die dope ens van die Philledelphia (hier in die weskaap, oppad na Malmesbury) al erens op rekenaar geplaas is. Ek bly bie naby en het gedink as dit nog nie gedoen is nie kan ek dalk probeer om navraag te doen en kyk of ek dit dalk kan doen. Ek wil egter nie iets doen wat reeds gedoen is nie. Weet iemand dalk?
Groete Anita Melkbosstrand
Boodskap 7b. Re: Philledelphia dope Posted by: "Annemie Lourens" [email protected] annemielourens Wed Jan 2, 2008 7:20 am (PST)
Hello Anita
Ek het nie die doopregisters, maar as jy dit gaan doen sal ek baie graag die inligting by jou wil kry.
Van 'n baie warm Malmesbury, ek kan nie glo dit is koel by julle nie.
Groete Annemie
Boodskap 8. Re: Fwd: Danie Theron Posted by: "Lucas Rinken" [email protected] rinkenlg Wed Jan 2, 2008 7:16 am (PST)
Beste Dennis,
Baie dankie vir jou e-pos en volgehoue aanmoediging om weer meer deel te neem aan gesprekke op SAGen. Mens kan nie aanhou om vir 'n goeie en gewaardeerde vriend soos jy nee te sê nie.
Ek maak dan maar in 2008 saam met die nuwe jaar, 'n nuwe begin en vertrou dit sal beter gaan.
Ek het ook regstreeks aan Ariel geskryf en hom ook bedank dat hy my die aanmoediging gegee het om meer oor Danie in ons databasis in te voer.
Ter wille van ander lysgenote, hiermee die notas wat ons nou oor hom het: Well known Boer soldier.
Prokureur en dapper Boerekommandant en spioen.
Boer scout, born in the Cape in 1870. He settled in the Transvaal in about 1891 and practised in Krugersdorp as a law agent. Came into the news for assaulting W.F. Moneypenny, editor of the Star (q.v.) for certain allusions in his pages, allegedly insulting to womanhood. He was fined but the money was promptly collected from sympathisers. He joined the Boer forces in the South African War as a captain in the Transvaal Cyclist Corps. After the battle of Colenso he was placed in charge of a special group of scouts, among whom his feats became a legend. He was killed in action in 1900.
Danie Theron -- Hero of the Anglo-Boer War
On the 25th of April 1899 Danie Theron, a Krugersdorp attorney, was found guilty of assaulting Mr W. F. Monneypenny, the editor of The Star newspaper, and fined £20. Monneypenny, who had only been in the South Africa for two months, had written a highly derogatory editorial against the "ignorant Dutch". Theron pleaded extreme provocation and his fine was paid by his supporters in the courtroom.
So starts the story of one of the Anglo-Boer War's most illustrious heroes.
Danie Theron, who had served in the 1895 Mmalebôgô (Malaboch) War, was a true patriot - believing in the just and divine right of the Boer to stand against British interference: "Our strength lies in the justice of our cause and in our trust in help from above."1
Before the outbreak of war, Theron and a friend, J. P. "Koos" Jooste (a cycling champion), asked the Transvaal government if they could raise a cycling corps. (Bicycles had first been used by the US army in the Spanish War, 1898, when a hundred black cyclists under the command of Lt James Moss were rushed in to help with riot control in Havana, Cuba.) It was Theron's opinion that using bicycles for despatch riding and reconnaissance would save horses for use in combat. In order to gain the necessary permission Theron and Jooste had to convince the highly sceptical burghers that bicycles were as good, if not better, than horses. In the end, it took a 75 kilometre race from Pretoria to the Crocodile River Bridge2 in which Jooste, on a bicycle, beat an experienced horse rider, to convince Commandant-General Piet Joubert and President J. P. S. Kruger that the idea was sound.
Each of the 108 recruits to the "Wielrijeders Rapportgangers Corps" (Cycle Dispatch Rider Corps) was supplied with a bicycle, shorts, a revolver and, on special occasion, a light carbine. Later they received binoculars, tents, tarpaulins and wire cutters. Theron's corps distinguished themselves in Natal and on the western front, and even before the war had started had provided information about British troop movements beyond the Transvaal's western border.1
By Christmas 1899, Capt Danie Theron's dispatch rider corps were experiencing poor deliveries of supplies at their outposts on the Tugela. On the 24th December Theron complained to the Supplies Commission that they were severely neglected. He explained that his corps, who were always in the vanguard, were far from any railway line where supplies were unloaded and his wagons regularly returned with the message that there were no vegetables since everything had been carted off to the laagers surrounding Ladysmith. His complaint was that his corps did both dispatch riding and reconnaissance work, and that they were also called upon to fight the enemy. He wanted to offer them better sustenance than dried bread, meat and rice. The result of this plea earned Theron the nickname of "Kaptein Dik-eet" (Captain Gorge-yourself) because he catered so well for his corps' stomachs!1
As the Anglo-Boer War progressed, Capt Danie Theron and his scouts were moved to the western front and the disastrous confrontation between the British forces under Field Marshal Roberts and the Boer forces under General Piet Cronje. After a long and hard struggle up the Modder River by the British forces, the siege of Kimberly had finally been broken and Cronje was falling back with a vast train of wagons and many women and children - the families of the Commandos. General Cronje almost slipped through the British cordon, but eventually was forced to form a laager by the Modder near Paardeberg, where they dug in ready for a siege. Roberts, temporarily indisposed with the 'flu, passed command to Kitchener, who faced with a drawn-out siege or an all-out infantry attack, chose the latter. Kitchener also had to deal with rearguard attacks by Boer reinforcements and the approach of further Boer forces under General C. R. de Wet.
On the 25th of February, 1900, during the Battle of Paardeberg, Capt. Danie Theron bravely crossed the British lines and entered Cronje's laager in an effort to co-ordinate a breakout. Theron, initially travelling by bicycle2, had to crawl for much of the way, and is reported to have had a conversation with British guards before crossing the river. Cronje was willing to consider a breakout but felt it necessary to put the plan before a council of war. The following day, Theron sneaked back to De Wet at Poplar Grove and informed him that the council had rejected the breakout. Most of the horses and draught animals had been killed and the burgers were worried about the safety of the women and children in the laager. Additionally, officers had threatened to stay in their trenches and surrender if Cronje gave the order to breakout. On the 27th, despite a passionate plea to his officers by Cronje to wait just one more day, Cronje was forced to surrender. The humiliation of surrender was made much worse because this was Majuba Day. This was one of the main turning points of the war for the British.
On the 2nd of March a council of war at Poplar Grove gave Theron permission to form a Scout Corps, consisting of about 100 men, to be called the"Theron se Verkenningskorps" (Theron Scouting Corps) and subsequently known by the initials TVK. Curiously, Theron now advocated the use of horses rather than bicycles, and each member of his new corps was provided with two horses. Koos Jooste was given command of the Cycling Corps.
Theron achieved a certain notoriety in his remaining few months. The TVK were responsible for destroying railway bridges and captured several British officers. As a result of his endeavours a newspaper article, 7th April 1900, reported that Lord Roberts labelled him "the chief thorn in the side of the British" and had put a bounty on his head of £1 000, dead or alive. By July Theron was considered such an important target that the Theron and his scouts were attacked by General Broadwood and 4 000 troops. A running battle ensued during which the TVK lost eight scouts killed and the British lost five killed and fifteen wounded. Theron's catalogue of deeds is vast considering how little time he had left. Trains were captured, railway tracks dynamited, prisoners freed from a British jail, he had earned the respect of his men and his superiors.
On the 4th September 1900 in the Gatsrand, near Fochville, Commandant Danie Theron was planning an attack with General Liebenberg's commando on General Hart's column. Whilst out scouting to discover why Leibenberg was not at the agreed position, Theron ran into seven members of Marshall's Horse. During the resultant fire fight Theron killed three and wounded the other four. The column's escort was alerted by the firing and immediately charged up the hill, but Theron managed to avoid capture. Finally the column's artillery, six field guns and 4.7 inch navel gun, were unhitched and the hill bombarded. The legendary Republican hero was killed in an inferno of lyddite and shrapnel3. Eleven days later, the body of Commandant Danie Theron was exhumed by his men and later reburied next to his late fiancee, Hannie Neethling, at her father's farm of Eikenhof, Klip River.
Commandant Danie Theron's death earned him immortal fame in Afrikaner history. On learning of Theron's death, De Wet said: "Men as loveable or as valiant there might be, but where shall I find a man who combined so many virtues and good qualities in one person? Not only had he the heart of a lion but he also possessed consummate tact and the greatest energy... Danie Theron answered the highest demands that could be made on a warrior" South Africa remembered its hero by naming their School of Military Intelligence after him.
References:
1. Fransjohan Pretorius, Life on Commando during the Anglo-Boer war 1899 - 1902, Human and Rousseau, Cape Town, 479 pages, ISBN 0 7981 3808 4.
2. D. R. Maree, Bicycles in the Anglo Boer war of 1899-1902. Military History Journal, Vol. 4 No. 1 of the South African Military History Society.
3. Pieter G. Cloete, The Anglo-Boer War: a chronology, J.P van de Walt, Pretoria,351 pages, ISBN 0 7993 2632 1.
In Kommandant Danie Theron, J.H. Breytenbach tells how, prior to the outbreak of war, an attorney from Krugersdorp, DJ.S. (Danie) Theron went to Pretoria with his friend, J.P. (Koos) Jooste, a cycling champion, to ask the Transvaal Government to allow them to raise a cycling corps. They had to use considerable persuasion before their idea was accepted as horses had always sufficed in the past. Theron's notion was to use bicycles wherever possible in order to save horses for actual combat. During an interview with Commandant-General Piet Joubert and President J.P.S. Kruger, Jooste pointed out that a horse must sleep and eat, while a bicycle needed only oil and a pump before it was ready for action. The General jocularly added that it did not even bite or kick! Jooste also explained how the problem of punctures could be solved by the placing of a piece of untanned leather between the tube and tyre,(5) which information later gave the Boers a considerable advantage over the enemy cyclists who were frequently inconvenienced by punctures caused by thorns on the rough tracks of the South African veld. The assent to form the Wielrijders Rapportgangers Corps was given after a race from Pretoria to the Crocodile River bridge, a distance of 46 miles (75 km), between the champion cyclist, Koos Jooste, and a certain Martiens on horseback, which Jooste won.(6)
Danie Theron immediately started to advertise in newspapers on the Witwatersrand for young men to join his corps.(7) He sent out trusted associates to select reliable men, drawing his recruits from young, well- educated members of the upper classes.(8) When finally established, the Wielrijders Rapportgangers Corps consisted of one hundred and eight men and was divided into seven sections, each under a lieutenant responsible to Captain Theron. The following were sent out to different districts on the 19th September 1899: 8 men under Jan Niehaus to Waterberg, 17 men under S. de Kock to Soutpansberg, 18 men under C. Maartens to Lichtenburg, 16 men under G.F. Mynhardt to Wakkerstroom, 16 men under H.H. van Gass to Vryheid, 14 men under Klaas Jooste to Zeerust, and 18 men (leader's name omitted) to Bloemfontein.(9) Each man was supplied with a bicycle, short trousers, a revolver and, where deemed necessary, a light carbine.(10) In March 1900 a man named Frazer was sent to Pretoria to obtain desperately needed binoculars, tents. tarpaulins, and wire cutters.(11) The short trousers and carbines seem not to have been used. No photographs of Boer cyclists wearing or using them have been found. British cyclists carried rifles on their bicycles as can be seen in the photograph of the Rand Rifles.
Nogmaals dankie.
'n Baie voorspoedige 2008 viSAGen en AL sy lede toegebid.
Vriendelike groete,
Lucas
Boodskap 9. Welkom terug Posted by: "Louis Olivier" [email protected] Wed Jan 2, 2008 8:09 am (PST)
Lukas
Welkom terug. Die lys is leeg gewees sonder jou.
Linda & Louis Olivier Pretoria 0128031028 [email protected] [email protected] Olivier, Coetzee, Swart, du Plooy
Boodskap 10. Lyswyshede 8 Posted by: "Simon du Plooy" [email protected] sjdp1951 Wed Jan 2, 2008 8:19 am (PST)
25 Jan. GEDULD ek het gelukkig baie. (:-)) Mike
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24 Jan 07
Nie dat die familie so groot is nie, maar die Van Breda's skyn nie baie entoesiasties te wees om inligting te voorsien nie.
Johan.(van Breda)
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25 Jan 06
Ja sien, ek is 'n begeesterde leser - lees alles van ontbytkos tot dieHelp-instruksies en die handleiding van nuwe goeters. Ook die Options of Help wanneer ek 'n nuwe webwerf benader. Dus - 'n wandelende asblik van nuttelose inligting!
Marlene. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Toe dink ek so by myself "As daar nie foute is nie, is dit nie genealogie nie!" Dus maak foute reg en aanvaar regstellings, dit is deel van die spelplan!!! Elmien xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
20 Jan 07 Ek stem saam. Foute is deel van navorsing. Net mense wat nie werk nie, maak nie foute nie. Mari Mostert
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Boodskap 11a. Re: Anna Adriana Hendrina Woest (vir Japie Bosch) Posted by: "Janet Melville" [email protected] jmelvillexsinetcoza Wed Jan 2, 2008 9:13 am (PST)
Die egpaar is getroud in die huwelikshof en op dieselfde dag in die Kerk van St. Michael en St. George, Grahamstad. en Thomas Gravet hulle seun doop in Somerset-Oos.
Janet Melville Posbus 15215 Emerald Hill PE 6011 083 642 7744 H/Faks: 041 3792077 Researching: van der Merwe, Melville, Rudman, William Reynolds, Van Lingen and East Cape families
Boodskap 12. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 02 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Wed Jan 2, 2008 11:07 am (PST)
Sterfgevalle FERREIRA, Lucy (WOUDBERG). Gedenkdiens Maandag 07 Jan 2008 11:00 Milnertonhuis-kapel, First Avenue Funeral Home, Walmer. Suideinde-begraafplaas. (P.E.) (Die Burger Oos- Kaap 02/01/2008) First Ave Funeral Home 041 581 5028
KELSEY, Jean. *24/12/1944. Ma en Ouma +29 Des 2007. Clint, Brigitte, Carl en Danielle. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 02/01/2008)
NEL, Rehelda Wilma. +Saterdag 29 Des 2007. Man Hans, kinders Rehelda en Renier. Begrafnis Donderdag 03 Jan 2008 14:00 NG Kerk, Bothasrus, Despatch. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 02/01/2008) Esmé Groenewald AVBOB Uitenhage 041 922 8066
NORTIER, Marie Johanna (Joyce). +Saterdag 29 Des 2007. Kinders Cecilia, Gilbert, Leatitia, Jeanné-Maré, Henriette en Christo, kleinkinders. Begrafnis Woensdag 02 Jan 2008 11:00 NG Kerk Bothasrus, Despatch. Despatch-begraafplaas. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 02/01/2008) Esmé Groenewald AVBOB Uitenhage 041 922 8066
STRYDOM, (Daniel Andries) Piet Ambulans. +Saterdag 29 Des 2007. Vrou Marie, kinders, kleinkinders. Begrafnis Vrydag 04 Jan 2008 10:00 N.G. kerk, Kirkwood. Forest Hill- begraafplaas (P.E.). Esmé Groenewald AVBOB Uitenhage 041 922 8066
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 13. Van der Linden/Gerber Posted by: "Anne Rust" [email protected] anne.rust Wed Jan 2, 2008 2:49 pm (PST)
Hallo almal,
Ek is opsoek na inligting oor Albertus Jacobus van der Linden van die Groot Marico distrik. Al wat ek weet is dat hy op 'n plaas genaamd Vaalkloof geboer het.
Ek is ook opsoek na inligting oor Andries Hertzog Gerber van Humansdorp omgewing.
Baie Dankie,
Anne
Boodskap 14. [Koerant] The Mercury Woensdag 2 Jan 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Wed Jan 2, 2008 7:35 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:- "If is of interest to note that while some dolphins are reported to have learned English - up to 50 words used in correct context- no human being has been reported to have learned dolphinese. " Carl SAGAN.
GEBOORTES:- ALLEBONE Peter & Derryn 'n seun Ethan *28/12/2007 in Hastings UK .
McGLASHAN nee HOLWILL Grant & Jo 'n seun Ross Mark *28/12/2007 in Umhlanga Hospitaal. Boetie vir Greg.
WAYNE nee AUSTIN Brett & Chantelle 'n seun Austin Guy * 28/12/2007 in London.
VERLOWING:- MIRANDA Richard & Karen se jongste dogter Tracey aan Wyndham, oudste seun van Paul & Barbie TOPS.
HUWELIK:- COETZEE Jan x 29/12/2007 met Bianca BREYTENBACH by Providence Nottingham Rd.
DOOD:- BRAND Gail † 27/12/2007 (Tragies) . Gemis deur Ruth , Pinky, Brain en Martin.
BURT Stuart David x Maureen . Pa van Lynette & Julian. Memorial by Berea Congregational Church Musgrave Rd om 10 vm op 5/01/2007.
CROUCH Beryl Isabel † 30/12/2007 by Riverside Park Homes. x † Sid . Ma van Lynette & Phil, Neville & Jude, Hylton & Ruth , Darrol & Felicity. Ouma en oumagroot.
DRINN Harold Conway 22/12/1926 -----26/12/2007 . Begrafnis Diens by Stellawood Kapel Umbilo op 4/01/2008 om 2nm. Ter aarde bestelling privaat.Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH 0312059959.
GARDEN Ian Memorial op 7/01/2008 om 11vm by Wetbrook Methodiste Kerk.
GARLICK Graham 19/08/1920 -----29/12/2007 in Durban tuis op ouderdom 87. x Denoon. Verassing was privaat op versoek.
JOHANSEN Anthony Richard (Tony) † 30/12/2007 in Durban . Broer van Helen, Glenda, Neil, Viviene en Luke. Pa van Steven ,Julian en Lauren .Oupa van Zion.
JONES Vera . Sterf op ouderdom 95. Van DHS Old Boys' Bowling Club.
LINTON voorheen EDWARDS Zena Beryl 24/08/1924 ------25/12/2007 . Ma van Noelene, Barbara, Billy en Rolf. Skoonma van Neville, Dave en Sandra. Ouma en oumagroot.Begrafnis by Frere Rd Presbyterian Kerk 4/01/2008 om 10 vm. Verassing privaat..
LOUIS Beatrice Margaret x † Raymond Joseph. Ma van Lynette, Gordon , Leona, Malcolm , Neville en Ramona. Skoonma ,Ouma en tannie. Begrafnis 02/01/2008 by Christ The King Parish Wentworth om 12 middag Daarna na Dudley Str Begraafplaas.
MARRMAN Johannes Christiaan . Begrafnis 27/12/2007 bt Seventh Day Adventist Wentworth. Begrawe by Dudley Begraafplaas. TEL:- 0795262779 of 0834217678 of 031 4663414.
MCDONALD Valerie Patricia † 27/12/2007 .Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
MCLEISH Clem .Pa en oupa van Tammy, Neil en Tessa.
NUNES Terry x Anne.Pa en oupa van Bev, Mark, Chad, Rhett en Teagan, Gordon, Mel, Bryce, Trent en Kaycie, Ian ,Jo ,Jess en Tayla. Memorial 3/01/2008 om 10 vm by Manning Rd Methodiste Kerk.
MEMORIAM:- ALDRED Joan .4 jaar dood nou. Ma van Felicity Ann.
HURST Cameron † 02/01/2005. Ingesit deur MA.
LANDERS Gerald (Boyce) . 1jaar dood nou. x Elaine. Pa en oupa van Gregory, Cheryl, Shanda ,Vanessa, Jared en Jaydin; Marcia, Nicole, Rory ,Kasey, en Aaliyah.
LEAVER Nicole 24/07/1986 ----02/01/2002. Dogter en suster. Onthou deur Ouers , en susters Kaylee en Raecine.
LIVINGSTONE David † 01/01/2007 x Agnes.. Broer van Eunice x Clive. Gemis deur Craig, Karen, Mitchell en Tannah.;Ook pa en oupa van Paddy, Adele, Wayne, Lloyd en Kyle.
PARSONS Natalie. Onthou deur Ma.
DUHC CHEVRA KADISHA :- JOFFE Mary . Onthulling van steen op 6/01/2008. by Redhill Joodse Afdeling van Begraafplaas.
Gegroet uit baie warm en nou winderige aand in Durban, Rita Quebbemann.
Boodskap 15a. Re: RALL - afsterwe van my swaer Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Wed Jan 2, 2008 8:27 pm (PST)
Hannlie,
Ons simpatie met julle familie. Ons Bid vir Krag en sterkte vir julle in hierdie swaar tyd.
Groete Rita & Willi uit Durban
Boodskap 16. (Koerant) Beeld 05 Des. 2007 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Wed Jan 2, 2008 11:26 pm (PST)
COMBRINCK; Jan Frederick Johannes, in lewe van Pretoria. Verassingsdiens: NG Kerk, Wonderpark, Pretoria, 06/12/2007, 14:00. (Beeld - 05/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
DE KLERK; William (Bill), voorheen president van M I E U. Verassingsdiens: Fourways Memorial Park-Kapel, Memoriallaan, Graigavon, Johannesburg, 06/12/2007, 14:00. (Beeld - 05/12/2007) Doves Begrafnisdienste, Fourways, 011-465-2833.
DREYER; Stephanus Johannes, in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: Oostvallei-Aftreeoordsaal, Coleystraat 657, Garsfontein, Pretoria, 07/12/2007, 10:30. (Beeld - 05/12/2007) Grobbelaars & Church Street Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria, 012-348-5556.
DUVENHAGE; Marthinus Jacobus * 31/05/2001. Marthinus Jacobus DUVENHAGE * 28/02/1964 skakel Minka LANDMAN by 012-379-5860 oor aanneming van jou seun Marthinus (Beeld - 05/12/2007)
GLATTHAAR; Marthina Johanna Margaretha (76) * GREYLING, in lewe van Pretoria. Verassingsdiens: Riekie Boshoffsaal, Machfield Postmas Kompleks, Mckenziestraat 225, Brooklyn, Pretoria, 06/12/2007, 10:00. (Beeld - 05/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Oos, 012-460-3745.
JANSE VAN RENSBURG; Theodorus Cornelius (74), in lewe van Pretoria. Verassingsdiens: NG Kerk, Lynnwood, Pretoria, 06/12/2007, 10:00. (Beeld - 05/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Oos, 012-460-3745.
STRASHEIM; Albertus (90), in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: NG Kerk, Suid-Oos Pretoria, Stellstraat, 06/12/2007, 09:30 # Pretoria-Oos Begraafplaas. (Beeld - 05/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Oos, 012-460-3745.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 17. (Koerant) Beeld 06 Des. 2007 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 3, 2008 12:02 am (PST)
DREYER; Stephanus Johannes, in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: Oostvallei-Aftreeoordsaal, Coleystraat 657, Garsfontein, Pretoria, 07/12/2007, 10:30. (Beeld - 05, 06/12/2007) Grobbelaars & Church Street Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria, 012-348-5556.
DUVENHAGE; Marthinus Jacobus * 31/05/2001. Marthinus Jacobus DUVENHAGE * 28/02/1964 skakel Minka LANDMAN by 012-379-5860 oor aanneming van jou seun Marthinus (Beeld - 05, 06/12/2007)
GILLILAND; Susara Maria, in lewe van Pretoria. Roudiens: NG Kerk, Magaliesfort, 07/12/2007, 14:00. Veras. (Beeld - 06/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
GREEF; Lillian Elizabeth Behrens (Tokkie), in lewe van Coronationrylaan, Symhurst 4, Germiston, Gauteng provinsie. Verassingsdiens: NG Cachet, Thistleweg 10, Primrose, Germiston, 07/12/2007, 14:00. (Beeld - 06/12/2007) Doves Begrafnisdienste, Kinrossstraat 25, Germiston, Posbus 63, Germiston, 011-873-8336.
ODENDAAL; {Prof} Johannes (61) + 03/12/2007, voormalige aanbieder van Dieremaniere op RSG, in lewe van Eldoraigne, Centurion, Pretoria. Gedenkdiens: NG Kerk, Pretoria-Oos, 07/12/2007, 09:30. Vir Inligting - Hanna-012-654-3448. Oorleef deur sy vrou Hanna, drie kinders en drie kleinkinders en 'n suster. (Foto met berig). (Beeld - 06/12/2007) Sonja Smith Begrafnisgroep, Pretoria, 012-654-9902.
OLIVIER; Stephanie, in lewe van Pretoria. Verassingsdiens: Grobbelaars & Church Street Kapel, Annie Bothalaan 27, Riviera, Pretoria, 07/12/2007, 15:00. (Foto met berig). (Beeld - 06/12/2007) Grobbelaars & Church Street Begrafnisdienste, Riviera, Pretoria, 012-329-3682.
POTGIETER; Koos {afgetrede Kolonel in SANW}. Dankdiens: Kerksondermure, Pretoria, 07/12/2007, 11:00. Veras. Donasies: KSM - Bybelverspreiding. (Beeld - 06/12/2007) Sonja Smith Begrafnisgroep, Pretoria, 012-654-9902.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 18. (Koerant) Beeld 07 Des. 2007 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 3, 2008 12:25 am (PST)
BREEDT; Hendrik Johannes, voorheen van Lake Side, Johannesburg. Begrafnisdiens: Fourways Gedenkpark Kapel, Inchangastraat, Graigavon Fourways, Johannesburg, 08/12/2007, 12:00 # Fourways Gedenkpark. (Beeld ? 07/12/2007) Martins Begrafnisdienste, Fourways Gedenkpark Kapel, Inchangastraat, Graigavon Fourways, Johannesburg, 011-467-8916.
DUVENHAGE; Marthinus Jacobus * 31/05/2001. Marthinus Jacobus DUVENHAGE * 28/02/1964 skakel Minka LANDMAN by 012-379-5860 oor aanneming van jou seun Marthinus (Beeld ? 05, 06, 07/12/2007)
HÖLSCHER; Hobbe Dirk (Dick) * 26/02/1928 + 03/12/2007, in lewe van Pretoria. Gedenkdiens: Geref Kerk, Brooklyn, Pretoria, 11/12/2007, 14:00. Sal onthou word deur sy vrou Anna, kinders Marianne, Dorette, Marlene en Johan, skoonseuns Gerard en Mike, kleinkinders Martin, Annemie, Paul en Etienne. Teraardbestelling: Privaat. (Beeld ? 07/12/2007)
RAATH; Bou. Ons meegevoel aan Hannie, Martin, Marie, Beauford, Mercia en hulle gesinne met afsterwe van Bou, van Anna PRATT. (Beeld ? 07/12/2007)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 19. (Koerant) Beeld 08 Des. 2007 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 3, 2008 12:30 am (PST)
HOFFMAN; Jacob, in lewe van Pretoria. Roudiens: NG Kerk, Jakaranda, Pretoria, 10/12/2007, 10:00. Veras. (Beeld - 08/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
RAATH; Bou. Ons meegevoel aan Hannie, Martin, Marie, Beauford, Mercia en hulle gesinne met afsterwe van Bou, van Anna PRATT. (Beeld - 07,08/12/2007)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Datum: Thu Jan 3, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 03 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
2. (Koerant) Beeld 12 Des. 2007 From: Fanie Blignaut
3. (Koerant) Beeld 13 Des. 2007 From: Fanie Blignaut
4. (Koerant) Beeld 14 Des. 2007 From: Fanie Blignaut
5a. Re: Danie Theron From: Willeen Olivier
6a. WOEST (Vir Charlies Els en Janet Melville) From: Japie Bosch
6b. Re: WOEST (Vir Japie Bosch) From: Charlie Els
7. (Koerant) Beeld 15 Des. 2007 From: Fanie Blignaut
8. (Koerant) Beeld 17 Des. 2007 From: Fanie Blignaut
9. Begrafnisbrief - RJ LIZEMORE From: Jorge Estreux
10a. Re: KNOTTs of SOUTH AFRICA From: Sarel Burger
11. (Koerant) Beeld 19 Des. 2007 From: Fanie Blignaut
12. (Koerant) Beeld 20 Des. 2007 From: Fanie Blignaut
13a. Re: Raad asseblief vir fotos na soekbare data onskakel From: Annelie Els
14. (Koerant) Beeld 11 Des. 2007 From: Fanie Blignaut
15. (Koerant) Beeld 21 Des. 2007 From: Fanie Blignaut
16. NONGQAI brokkies From: Annelie Els
17. (Koerant) Beeld 22 Des. 2007 From: Fanie Blignaut
18. (Koerant) Beeld 24 Des. 2007 From: Fanie Blignaut
19. (Koerant) Beeld 27 Des. 2007 From: Fanie Blignaut
20. (Koerant) Beeld 28 Des. 2007 From: Fanie Blignaut
21. (Koerant) Beeld 29 Des. 2007 From: Fanie Blignaut
22. (Koerant) Beeld 03 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
23. Lyswyshede 9 From: Simon du Plooy
24. VERMEULEN EN VAN RENSBURG From: Berna Julietta van de Venter Boodskap 1. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 03 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Thu Jan 3, 2008 1:14 am (PST)
Geboortes SLABBERT. Babaseun, Jean-Daniel, aan Morné en Isobel (PRICE) op 31 Desember 2007. Eerste kleinseun vir Oupa Gert en Tannie Veronica, broerskind vir suster Adéle en swaer Fred. Dank aan dr. GREEFF. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 03/01/2008)
In Memoriam MYNHARDT, Anton. Vandag een jaar oorlede. Vrou Sussie, kinders, kleinkinders. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 03/01/2008)
Sterfgevalle EARLE, John Malcolm. Gedenkdiens Vrydag 04 Jan 2008 10:30 Milnertonhuis-kapel, Walmer. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 03/01/2008) First Ave Funeral Home 041 581 5028
ENGELBRECHT, Magdalena Petronella. +Vrydag 28 Des 2007. Vriendin Zelda en familie. Verassingsdiens Donderdag 03 Jan 2008 vanuit Ouetehuis Aandmymering. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 03/01/2008) Bossies 084 792 0442 / 041 991 1471
ERASMUS, Abel Petrus. Verassingsdiens Woensdag 02 Jan 2008 11:00 vanuit Ouetehuis Aandmymering. Dogter Anneline, kleinkinders, agterkleinkinders, Natalie. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 03/01/2008) Bossies 084 792 0442 / 041 991 1471
HUMPEL, Anna Jakoba. +Saterdag 29 Des 2007. Lewensmaat Maans, kinders Karin, Robert, Fritz, skoonkinders, kleinkinders. Roudiens Vrydag 04 Jan 2008 13:00 Volle Evangelie kerk, Algoapark. Forest Hill-begraafplaas. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 03/01/2008) Journey's End Begrafnisdienste 041 484 1464
(2 berigte) KELSEY, Jean. 24/12/1944 - 29/12/2007 Clint, Brigitte, Carl en Danielle. Begrafnisdiens Vrydag 04 Jan 2008 15:00 Ou Apostoliese Kerk, Algoapark (P.E.) (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 03/01/2008)
(2 berigte) SCHREIBER, Augusta Alberta (Gussie) (JACOBS). +Vrydag 28 Des 2007 op Joubertina. Kinders en kleinkinders Augusta, Gerhard, Albert, Grethe, Marius, Heather, Nathan, Pierre, Lizelle, Marius (Jnr), Carl, Heleen, Charl, Shantell, Lémon, Loraine, Jeanne-Marie en Stephen. Begrafnisdiens Dinsdag 08 Jan 2008 12:00 NG Kerk Joubertina. Munisipale Begraafplaas, Joubertina. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 03/01/2008) Bokkie Els AVBOB Humansdorp 042 291 1230
SENEKAL, Petronella Susanna. +Dinsdag 01 Jan 2008. Begrafnisdiens Vrydag 04 Jan 2008 11:00 Algoa Gemeenskapskerk. Forest Hill-begraafplaas. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 03/01/2008) Alfred Jones AVBOB Port Elizabeth 041 484 2731
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 2. (Koerant) Beeld 12 Des. 2007 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 3, 2008 1:22 am (PST)
GROVE; Magdalena Johanna, in lewe van Avondrus Aftreeoord, Vereeniging, Gauteng provinsie. Roudiens: AVBOB Kapel, Vereeniging, 14/12/2007, 11:00. Veras. (Beeld - 12/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Vereeniging, 016-421-4054.
UYS; Hendrik Johannes, in lewe van St Gothardlaan 22, Mayfair-Wes, Johannesburg. Begrafnisdiens: NG Kerk, Alberton-Suid, Gauteng provinsie, 13/12/2007, 10:00 # Alberton Begraafplaas. Nagelaat deur sy vrou Grieta, kinders en kleinkinders. (Beeld - 12/12/2007)
VAN NIEKERK; Jacobus Christoffel Johannes (Kosie), in lewe van Elspark, Germiston, Gauteng provinsie. Begrafnisdiens: NG Kerk, Kingfisherstraat, Elspark, 14/12/2007, 11:00 # Suidpark Begraafplaas, Germiston. (Beeld - 12/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Germiston, 011-825-3667.
VAN NIEKERK; Willem Johannes Andreas, in lewe van Pretoria. Roudiens: NG Kerk, Booysens, Pretoria, 13/12/2007, 10:00. Veras. (Beeld - 12/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
VAN TONDER; Paula, in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: NH Kerk, Hartbeeshoek, Pretoria, 13/12/2007, 09:30 # Zandfontein Begraafplaas, Pretoria. (Beeld - 12/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 3. (Koerant) Beeld 13 Des. 2007 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 3, 2008 1:43 am (PST)
FISHER; James Andrew, in lewe van Apple Orchards, Vereeniging, Gauteng provinsie. Verassingsdiens: AVBOB Kapel, Vereeniging, 14/12/2007, 13:00. (Beeld – 13/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Vereeniging, 016-421-4054.
KROUSE; Johanna Maggel Petronella, in lewe van Pretoria. Roudiens: NG Kerk, Onderstepoort, Pretoria, 14/12/2007, 13:00. Veras. (Beeld – 13/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
SÄID; Edson (Bets). Baie geluk met jou Sewe-en Twintigste verjaarsdag op 12/12/2007 van jou suster Lillian. (Beeld – 13/12/2007)
SCHOLTZ; Johanna Maria (83) * VAN ROOYEN, in lewe van Pretoria. Verassingsdiens: NG Kerk, Elarduspark, Pretoria, 14/12/2007, 14:00. (Beeld – 13/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Oos, 012-460-3745.
VAN ASWEGEN; Anna Isabella, in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: PPK Kerk, Pretoria-Wes, 13/12/2007, 13:00 # Zandfontein Begraafplaas, Pretoria. (Beeld – 13/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Moot, 012-330-0116/9.
VAN HEERDEN; Andrietta Katharina Elizabeth, in lewe van Kempton Park, Gauteng provinsie. Begrafnisdiens: Geref Kerk, Kempton Park-Noord, 14/12/2007, 13:00 # Bredell Begraafplaas, Kempton Park. (Beeld – 13/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Kempton Park, 011-975-5845.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 4. (Koerant) Beeld 14 Des. 2007 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 3, 2008 1:58 am (PST)
GELDENHUYS; Susanna Maria (Sannie of Sue), in lewe van Elsburg, Germiston, Gauteng provinsie. Verassingsdiens: NH Kerk, Delportstraat, Elsburg, 18/12/2007, 11:00. (Beeld - 14/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Germiston, 011-825-3667.
KNOETZE; Stephanie Melanie. Jaco PRETORIUS skakel vir T BASSON/Amanda by 012-664-7080 oor aanneming van Stephanie. (Beeld - 14/12/2007)
VAN STADEN; Willem Lodewickus, in lewe van Boksburg, Gauteng provinsie. Begrafnisdiens: NG Klipkerk, Voortrekkerstraat, Boksburg, 18/12/2007, 11:00 # Boksburg Substreeklike Begraafplaas. (Beeld - 14/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Boksburg, 011-917-5041.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 5a. Re: Danie Theron Posted by: "Willeen Olivier" [email protected] willempie5 Thu Jan 3, 2008 2:03 am (PST)
Beste Lukas en Ariel,
Ek kom nou so bietjie mostert na die maal, maar na die Desember huisskoonmaak moes ek eers die boek soek! Ek het die "Oorlogsavonture van Genl Wynand Malan" deur HJC Pieterse hier. Dit is in die eerste persoon geskryf, asof Malan self praat. Pieters het hom blykbaar vir lank probeer oortuig om sy wedervaringe te boekstaaf, en hy het uiteindelik so middel '30's ingestem - so wat hy vertel is op 30-40 jaar terug se herinderinge gebaseer - hy het vertel, Pieterse het geskryf. Hy het Danie voor die oorlog geken, en onthou die insident met Moneypenny so: " "Are you Mr Moneypenny?" het Danie gevra toe hy laasgenoemde se kantoor binnestap en daarop laat volg: "Hold up your hands; I am going to hit you!". Hy het die daad by die woord gevoeg."
Malan het van die begin af by die TVK aangesluit, en was by met Danie se dood. Daar blyk 'n bietjie van 'n skuldige gewete te wees, Danie het hom gevra om saam met hom te gaan die dag toe hy dood is, en hy het 'n verskoning gekry om dit nie te doen nie. Hy voel as hy saamgegaan het, sou dinge nie so gebeur het nie. Danie se neef Jan Theron het die leierskap oorgeneem na sy dood, wat 'n skeuring in die TVK veroorsaak het, die kleiner groep is daar weg, ook as die TVK, onder leiding van Genl Flip Botha. Ek kry die indruk dat die TVK tot aan die einde van die oorlog as twee onafhangklike groepe gefunksioneer het, maar hy brei ni baie uit op wat met die ander groep gebeur het nie. Malan is, na nog 'n paar leiers gesneuwel het, tot leier van die TVK (die groep wat Jan Theron gelei het) verkies, en het tot aan die einde van die oorlog daardie pos beklee. Hy is beseer net voor die vrede. Feitlik die hele boek is dus gebeure rondom die TVK. Die eerste drie hoofstukke dek Malan se wedervaringe met die inval in Natal (daar's 21 hoofstukke).
Net een ander ding strook nie hier nie. Malan vertel dat hulle Danie gaan soek het die dag na hy weg is, en net die plek waar hy getref is gekry. Hulle het toe na Wolfaardt se huis gegaan (boer in die omgewing, vermoed ek) en die het vertel dat van hulle huismense wat Danie geken het, deur die Engelse laat kom is om die lyk uit te ken. Hulle was blykbaar nie seker dat dit hy is nie, want sy sakboekie het gesê Danie Theron, maar die naam Henry Otto is op sy geweerkolf uitgekerf. 'n Dag of wat later het hulle sy graf gekry (nie elf dae later nie), hom opgegrawe, in 'n kis gesit (Malan vertel dat hy hier die blou merk op sy kaakebeen gesien wat hom maak dink het Danie was besig om weg van die plek te beweeg - daars 'n hele lang verduideliking hiervan) en op Pienaar se plaas begrawe, 'n buurman van Wolfaardt. Hy noem net eienaars se name, nie plaasname nie. Dit was September en daai wêreld kan warm word, selfs twee tot drie dae kan 'n lyk erg laat ontbind, so as die pers kol op sy wang nog sigbaar was, kon die opgrawery nie te lank na die insident gewees het nie. Ariel, jou stukkie sê ook begrawe saam met engelse soldate wat in die veldslag dood is - Malan sê niks van 'n veldslag nie - Danie was alleen op die rantjie - die boer wat saam met hom gegaan het, het met die perde agter die rantjie gebly. Hulle was op soek na 'n ander boeremag wat veronderstel was om daar stelling in te neem en toe nooit opgedaag het nie, so die beplande veldslag het nooit gebeur nie. Danie het op 'n groep Engelse verkenners afgekom, drie geskiet, en die wat weggekom het, moes die Engelse geskut gesê het waarvandaan hy geskiet het, want die het 'n ruk later op daardie plek losgebars. Die groot geheim is blykbaar wat Danie so lank daar gemaak het, en hoekom hy nie na die skermutseling padgegee het nie.
As julle wil kan ek die paar hoofstukke met Danie en die TVK scan en aanstuur - dis heeltemaal te veel om oor te tik ;-)).
Willeen Willeen Olivier Rooihuiskraal Kotzé, van Wyk, Olivier, Bosman, en al hulle voorgeslagte ...
Boodskap 6a. WOEST (Vir Charlies Els en Janet Melville) Posted by: "Japie Bosch" [email protected] boschjapie Thu Jan 3, 2008 2:04 am (PST)
Hallo Charlie en Janet
Dankie, Janet, vir die inligting. Baie vriendelik van jou.
Charlie, die oplossing is dat jy eers op www.1820settlers.com moet registreer. As jy daarna op die blad gaan, moet jy inteken. Onder andere is daar 'n "security code" wat die blad elke keer as jy inteken, toon en wat jy ook moet insleutel. Laat weet of jy reggekom het.
Groete
Boodskap 6b. Re: WOEST (Vir Japie Bosch) Posted by: "Charlie Els" [email protected] charlieels Thu Jan 3, 2008 2:43 am (PST)
Hallo Japie,
Dankie; ja, ek het so gedink! Die ongevraagde vraag wat ek in my brief aan jou wou vra was: "moet mens eers inteken?" Ai, ek is altyd bietjie haastig en lees dikwels eers die handleiding "if all ELS fails"!
Groete,
CHARLIE
Boodskap 7. (Koerant) Beeld 15 Des. 2007 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 3, 2008 2:07 am (PST)
GARBERS; Hanré Johannes + 12/12/207. Ons meegevoel aan sy vrou Annemarie, suens Anreich en Luan, van kollegas by Merrill Lynch. (Beeld – 14/12/2007)
KNOETZE; Stephanie Melanie. Jaco PRETORIUS skakel vir T BASSON/Amanda by 012-664-7080 oor aanneming van Stephanie. (Beeld – 14, 15/12/2007)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 8. (Koerant) Beeld 17 Des. 2007 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 3, 2008 2:22 am (PST)
KNOETZE; Stephanie Melanie. Jaco PRETORIUS skakel vir T BASSON/Amanda by 012-664-7080 oor aanneming van Stephanie. (Beeld - 14, 15, 17/12/2007)
KURDT; Jonathan. Bennie Jarod JACKSON, kontak Natasha FOSTER by Hutceon Prokureurs, 011-454-3221 oor aanneming van Jonathan. (Beeld - 17/12/2007)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 9. Begrafnisbrief - RJ LIZEMORE Posted by: "Jorge Estreux" [email protected] jorgeestreux Thu Jan 3, 2008 2:54 am (PST)
Begrafnisbrief: Rudolph Jacobus LIZEMORE *20 Sep 1932 +25/12/2007. Diens waargeneem deur Ds A.L. WEHNCKE, NG Kerk, Triomf 3 Jan 2008 om 11vm Draers: Rudolph Lizemore (seun), Casper VENTER (Skoonseun), Casper Venter (Jr) (Kleinseun), Hardus Venter (Kleinseun), Piet Lizemore (Broer), Hennie Nieman (Neef)
Gert
Boodskap 10a. Re: KNOTTs of SOUTH AFRICA Posted by: "Sarel Burger" [email protected] sarel.burger Thu Jan 3, 2008 3:02 am (PST)
Pat, Ek het die boek slegs te lene gehad vir 'n paar weke. Jammer. Sarel
Boodskap 11. (Koerant) Beeld 19 Des. 2007 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 3, 2008 3:25 am (PST)
BOSCH; Petronella Johanna, in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: NG Kerk, Daspoort, Pretoria, 20/12/2007, 09:30 # Zandfontein Begraafplaas, Pretoria. (Beeld - 19/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
HUMAN; Latje Catrina Margareta Cornelia (84) * JOUBERT, in lewe van Pretoria. Verassingsdiens: Safari Kwekerykapel, Pretoria, 19/12/2007, 10:00. Donasies: Hartstigting. (Beeld - 19/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Oos, 012-460-3745.
VILJOEN; Gertruida Maria (71) * LANDSBERG, in lewe van Pretoria. Verassingsdiens: NH Kerk, Montana, Pretoria, 20/12/2007, 10:00. (Beeld - 19/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Oos, 012-460-3745.
WYETH; Neville Arthur, in lewe van Pretoria. Verassingsdiens: AVBOB Kapel, Pretoria, 19/12/2007, 10:00. (Beeld - 19/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 12. (Koerant) Beeld 20 Des. 2007 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 3, 2008 3:52 am (PST)
KRUGER; Aletta Francina (81) * PIENAAR, in lewe van Welbekend, Pretoria. Verassingsdiens: Wellknown Christian Centre, Welbekend, Pretoria, 21/12/2007, 10:00. (Beeld – 20/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Oos, 012-460-3745.
MUNTINGH; Abraham van Oosterzee, in lewe van Boksburg, Gauteng provinsie. Begrafnisdiens: NG Klipkerk, Voortrekkerstraat, Boksburg, 21/12/2007, 09:00 # Suidpark Begraafplaas, Rondebultweg, Boksburg/Germiston. (Beeld – 20/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Boksburg, 011-917-5041.
PRETORIUS; Suzanné en Rize en Christoff, in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: NG Gemeente, Moreletapark, Rubensteinweg 589, Pretoria, 21/12/2007, 11:00 # Pretoria-Oos Begraafplaas. (Foto van Ma en twee kinders met berig). (Beeld – 20/12/2007) Sonja Smith Begrafnisgroep, Moreletapark, Pretoria, 012-993-2807.
SMIT; Abraham Johannes, in lewe van Kempton Park, Gauteng provinsie. Verassingsdiens: NG Kruin Gemeente, Kempton Park, 21/12/2007, 11:00. (Beeld – 20/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Kempton Park, 011-975-5845.
STEYN; Elizabeth Maria (86) * OLIVIER, in lewe van Pretoria. Verassingsdiens: Palms Renaissance Aftreeoord, Pretoria, 21/12/2007, 15:00. (Beeld – 20/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria- Oos, 012-460-3745.
VAN DER WALT; Jan Albert (52), in lewe van Pretoria. Verassingsdiens: Geref Kerk, Wapadrant, Pretoria, 21/12/2007, 10:30. (Beeld – 20/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria- Oos, 012-460-3745.
VAN ZYL; Johan Marius, in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: NG Kerk, Akasia, Pretoria, 21/12/2007, 10:00 # Heatherdale Begraafplaas, Britsweg, Pretoria-Noord. (Beeld – 20/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 13a. Re: Raad asseblief vir fotos na soekbare data onskakel Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Thu Jan 3, 2008 4:01 am (PST)
Hallo Johan,
Ons het tot dusvêr 1907-1912, 1917-1920, 1927, 1938-1940 afgeneem. Dis oor die 7,000 fotos. Dis op die oomblik die deurlees van elke foto om te sien wat daarin in :-)))) Ons be-oog om te probeer om nog te doen. My man doen navorsing oor die ou Roberts Height`s (Voortrekkerhoogte) en het onskatbare inligting en fotos alreeds daaruit gekry.
Groetnis Annelie.
Boodskap 14. (Koerant) Beeld 11 Des. 2007 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 3, 2008 4:08 am (PST)
DORMEHL; Herman. Begrafnisdiens: NG Gemeente, Waverley, Spioenkopstraat, Pretoria, 12/12/2007, 10:00. (Beeld - 11/12/2007)
KRITZINGER; Hendrik Minne + 08/12/2007, in lewe van Pretoria. Gedenkdiens: Sungardens Hospice Kapel, Twiggstraat 18, Lynnwood Glen, Pretoria, 13/12/2007, 11:00. (Beeld - 11/12/2007) Grobbelaars & Church Street Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria, 012-348-5556.
LABUSCHAGNE; Pieter Hendrik Johannes, in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: Gemeentes van Christus, Pretoria-Noord, 12/12/2007, 09:30 # Heatherdale Begraafplaas, Britsweg, Pretoria-Noord. (Beeld - 11/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
OOSTHUIZEN; Francis, in lewe van Pretoria. Roudiens: NH Kerk, Hartbeeshoek, Pretoria, 12/12/2007, 10:00. (Beeld - 11/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 15. (Koerant) Beeld 21 Des. 2007 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 3, 2008 4:23 am (PST)
ERASMUS; Johan * 01/04/1993 en Ansoné * 18/10/1995. {Mnr} Johannes Jakobus ERASMUS, kontak vir Johannelia KOTZé by CMR op 083-488-8430 oor aanneming van Johan en Ansoné (Beeld – 21/12/2007)
HAYWARD; Ivan. Morné MENTZ kontak vir {Mevr} M HATTINGH by 012-344-2492 oor aanneming van Ivan. (Beeld – 21/12/2007)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 16. NONGQAI brokkies Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Thu Jan 3, 2008 4:54 am (PST)
Hallo Mede-geners,
Klein brokkies uit die NONGQAI ( dis regtig hoe dit gespel word, dis `n Zulu woord wat "boodskapper" beteken)
Ek gaan dit in Engels aanhaal soos dit in die berig verskyn.
Uit die 1909 Maartmaand "koerantjie"
Babanango (Zululand) Trp Spalding left here in December for the Reserwe, but is now, as we hear, stationed at Ginginghlovu. (Zululand) Trps Theron and Horsley, 4214 and 4215, respectively arrived here for duty in January, so we have now got our detachment complete, we welcome them to "O" district.
Sergt. Keyserlingk has his hands full at the present, as he is still acting Clerk of Court, and the Poll and Income Tax is giving him bags full of work.
"T" District
Warder Biddulph is to be congratulated as to being appointed Goaler at Ndwedwe, and we also extend hearty wishes to Sgt Tobitt on the occasion of his marriage, which took place at Umgeni on the 27th ultimo.
UMVOTI MOUNTED RIFLES` GYMKANA
The second Gymkana meeting was held at Greytown.
Maiden Hack Race :- 1st Trp Morgan, N.P. (Natal Police) "Dick" 2nd Mr. H. Rainer`s "Prince" 3rd Tpr. Norrey, N.P. (Natal Police) "Billy"
Nou moet ek die brokkie genealogiese deurbraak met julle deel:-
Ek het tussen my skoonmoeder se ou fotos wat sy vir my gegee het net voor haar afsterwe `n mooi foto van `n perd gekry. Toe ek die naam van die persoon H. Rainer in die Nongqai sien het ek na die foto van die perd gaan kyk en sowaar die naam daarop is "Prince". H. Rainer is Paul, manlief, se ouma se broer. Hy is Henry Louis Scott Rainer en was in daardie tydperk in Greytown.
Groetnis Annelie. Pretoria.
Boodskap 17. (Koerant) Beeld 22 Des. 2007 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 3, 2008 4:57 am (PST)
ERASMUS; Johan * 01/04/1993 en Ansoné * 18/10/1995. {Mnr} Johannes Jakobus ERASMUS, kontak vir Johannelia KOTZé by CMR op 083-488-8430 oor aanneming van Johan en Ansoné (Beeld – 21, 22/12/2007)
HAYWARD; Ivan. Morné MENTZ kontak vir {Mevr} M HATTINGH by 012-344-2492 oor aanneming van Ivan. (Beeld – 21, 22/12/2007)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 18. (Koerant) Beeld 24 Des. 2007 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 3, 2008 5:13 am (PST)
BREWER; Elani * PISTORIUS. Sal onthou word deur Marieke, Fritz, Alita, Frizelna en Jordan. (Beeld – 24/12/2007)
ERASMUS; Johan * 01/04/1993 en Ansoné * 18/10/1995. {Mnr} Johannes Jakobus ERASMUS, kontak vir Johannelia KOTZé by CMR op 083-488-8430 oor aanneming van Johan en Ansoné (Beeld – 21, 22, 24/12/2007)
HAYWARD; Ivan. Morné MENTZ kontak vir {Mevr} M HATTINGH by 012-344-2492 oor aanneming van Ivan. (Beeld – 21, 22, 24/12/2007)
JANSE VAN VUUREN; P L * 31/05/2004. {Mnr} P L JANSE VAN VUUREN * 13/09/1975, kontak dringend vir Margaret by 012-331-7285 oor aanneming van jou kind P L JANSE VAN VUUREN. (Beeld – 24/12/2007)
TEESEN: Gertina * 04/03/1941 + 19/12/2007, in lewe van Grootvlei, Pretoria. Teraardbestelling: Heatherdale Begraafplaas, Britsweg, Pretoria-Noord, 27/12/2007, 10.30. Begrafnisdiens: NH Kerk, Grootvlei, 27/11/2007, 11:30. (Beeld – 24/12/2007) Martin’s Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Oos, 012-800-3689 of 082-498-1981.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 19. (Koerant) Beeld 27 Des. 2007 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 3, 2008 5:21 am (PST)
ENGELA: Thomas Willem, in lewe van Sandton, Johannesburg. Verassingsdiens: NG Kerk, Witfield, Louwtherstraat, Boksburg, Gauteng provinsie, 27/11/2007, 12:00. (Beeld - 27/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Boksburg, Gauteng provinsie, 011-917-5041.
JANSE VAN VUUREN; P L * 31/05/2004. {Mnr} P L JANSE VAN VUUREN * 13/09/1975, kontak dringend vir Margaret by 012-331-7285 oor aanneming van jou kind P L JANSE VAN VUUREN. (Beeld - 24, 27/12/2007)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 20. (Koerant) Beeld 28 Des. 2007 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 3, 2008 5:26 am (PST)
JANSE VAN VUUREN; P L * 31/05/2004. {Mnr} P L JANSE VAN VUUREN * 13/09/1975, kontak dringend vir Margaret by 012-331-7285 oor aanneming van jou kind P L JANSE VAN VUUREN. (Beeld - 24, 27, 28/12/2007)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 21. (Koerant) Beeld 29 Des. 2007 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 3, 2008 5:35 am (PST)
BENEKE; Estella Abigail, in lewe van Pretoria. Roudiens: AGS Herlewing Sentrum, Mayville, Pretoria, 31/12/207, 10:00. Veras. (Beeld - 29/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
CLOETE; Elizabeth Margaretha, in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: NG Kerk, Queenswood, Pretoria, 31/12/207, 09:30 # Zandfontein Begraafplaas, Pretoria. (Beeld - 29/12/2007) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 22. (Koerant) Beeld 03 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 3, 2008 7:15 am (PST)
KRUIS; Marthinus Johannes, in lewe van Drie Riviere, Vereeniging, Gauteng provinsie. Roudiens: Sewende Dagse Kerk, Drie Riviere, 03/01/2008, 11:00. Veras. (Beeld - 03/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Vereeniging, 016-421-4054.
LIZMORE; Rudolph Jacobus, in lewe van Triomf, Roodepoort, Gauteng provinsie. Verassingsdiens: NG Gemeente, Triomf, Edwardstraat, 03/01/2008, 11:00. (Beeld - 03/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Roodepoort, 011-760-1158.
ROOD; Rita + 29/12/2007, in lewe van San Sereno, Gauteng provinsie. Gedenkdiens: NG Kerk, Braynston, Johannesburg, h v Main- en Grosvenorstraat, 03/01/2008, 15:00. Navrae: 011-706-8304. (Beeld - 03/01/2008)
VILJOEN; Maria Gerarda (Gerda), in lewe van Centurion, Pretoria. Gedenkdiens: Protea Aftreeoord, Cliftonlaan, Centurion, 03/01/2008, 10:00. (Beeld - 03/01/2008)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 23. Lyswyshede 9 Posted by: "Simon du Plooy" [email protected] sjdp1951 Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:04 am (PST)
31 Jan 07
Omdat daar vir my niks erger is as iemand wat altyd sy eie beul blaas nie.
Janet. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
27 Jan 07
Toe kry ek 'n Dirk de Wit onder my neus...as die blondgeit my tref, tref hy met mening…….Ek haal aan, want die woordeskat het my getiekel.
Aneen xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
26 Jan 06
MENSE ek is so opgewonde dat ek amper nie kon slaap nie - sê maar die ooglede het handegeklap vir die brein die helenag.
Elmari. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
26 Jan 07
Ek steek ook deesdae my neus oral in --- hoop die base raak nie vies nie!
Marlene. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
2 Feb 07
Ek kry net nie Pa se Pa gekoppel nie. Hy is dood 1918 en kry niks van hom nie, behalwe 'n graf. Hy het uit die Hemel geval en doodgegaan. Sy vrou is ook 'n skim.
Annatjie
Boodskap 24. VERMEULEN EN VAN RENSBURG Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:04 am (PST)
Hallo Johan en ander lyslede vir wie dit van belang mag wees: -
Matthys Adriaan Vermeulen *31.03.1807 in Graaf-Reinet. X 05.08.1827 in Graaf-Reinet. Oorlede (hoe maak ek daai teken?) 24.11.1868 in Victoria-Wes. Hy is getroud met Maria Louisa Marais *17.06.1805 in Graaf-Reinet; oorlede 21.06.1846 in Colesberg. Hulle was die ouers van: (Hulle is dan die oer-grootouers? - ek is nog lekker dom met die goeters/benamings)
Maria Louisa Adriana Vermeulen *06.1827 te Meifontein in Richmond, KP. X 02.01.1846 in Graaf-Reinet; oorlede 30.03.1912 in Petrusville. Sy is getroud met Hermanus Carel du Preez *16.09.1827 in Colesberg; oorlede 09.09 1900 in Petrusville. Hulle was die ouers van: (Sy was dan my groot-groot ouma?)
Louisa Daniellina Jansen van Rensburg *12.04.1865 in Mosselbaai. X 14.05 1861 in Hanover; oorlede ??? Sy is getroud met Hermanus Carel du Preez *08.1861 in Hanover; oorlede??? Lg. is my ouma- en oupagrootjie. Hulle was die ouers van my oupa Du Preez Philippus Jacobus.
Hierdie inligting het ek bekom danksy oom Thys du Preez van Pretoria. Ons is kaiings gebraai hier in Nylstroom. Lyk soos vaak visse op droë grond!!!
Groete tot 'n volgende keer.
Berna NS. Hoop jy, Johan, het regkom op daardie magte webtuistes. Nongqai is ook op daardie PBWiki Saffer, is ek nou reg?, blad. Weet nie of dit deur Annelie en Paul se toedoen is nie? Jy weet seker dalk reeds? Ek sal jou in elk geval in gedagte hou sou ek iets opspoor van die Kommandant van Rensburg van die WWI. Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3040
Datum: Thu Jan 3, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1. ROBERTS / ZIEHL of ZEILER / KASWART From: Meerkat (Marlene Spies)
2. PRINSLOO'S From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
3a. NOG VERMEULENS From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
3b. Vir Berna- Nie VERMEULENS maar du PLOOY From: Simon du Plooy
3c. Herstel datum! Vir Berna- Nie VERMEULENS maar du PLOOY From: Simon du Plooy
4. Nieuwoudt Nasate From: dickydube
5a. Kweekskool Jamesonpark From: Alta Roux
5b. Re: Kweekskool Jamesonpark From: Alta Griffiths
5c. Re: Kweekskool Jamesonpark From: Alta Griffiths
6a. du Plooy - help! From: Alta Roux
6b. Re: du Plooy - help! From: christo.heymans
6c. Re: du Plooy - help! From: Simon du Plooy
6d. Re: du Plooy - help! From: Alta Roux
7a. Re: KNOTTs of SOUTH AFRICA From: Patricia Finlay
8a. Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, President van die Republiek van Stellala From: Lucas Rinken
8b. Re: Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, President van die Republiek van Stel From: M.C v.d Merwe
8c. Re: Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, President van die Republiek van Stel From: Dennis Pretorius
9a. Re: BOEK OPSOEK asseblief From: Helena Garner
10. Gert Petrus SLABBERT uit Uitenhage From: Mark Slabbert
11a. Re: DANNHAUSER stamregister From: brinkfamily2000
12. (no subject) From: brinkfamily2000
13. Re: Hugenotebloed in ons are. From: Anne Rust
14. Boeke gesoek From: Anne Rust
15. ALBERTS From: Johan Brink
16a. Trollip From: Jorge Estreux Boodskap 1. ROBERTS / ZIEHL of ZEILER / KASWART Posted by: "Meerkat (Marlene Spies)" [email protected] meerkat2s Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:04 am (PST)
Gegroet uit sonnige, koue Suid-Ontario, Kanada!
My soektog is na die van ZIEHL, onder andere, en ek het 'n boodskap ontvang van Pam in Australië. Die mense wat sy soek, is nie in my databasis nie. Ek het deur Rootsweb se argiewe gesoek en 'n paar inskrywings gekry vir George ROBERTS, en vir Johan Frederick ZEILER, maar dit lyk nie na dieselfde mense nie. Daar is altyd 'n ander eggenote by. Dalk soek ek nie reg nie!
Op NAAIRS was 'n paar inskrywings wat moontlik haar mense kan wees.
KASWART kon ek glad nie op NAAIRS of elders kry nie; dit is moontlik 'n tikfout.
Het enigiemand enige inligting wat ek vir Pam kan aanstuur, asseblief? Haar oorspronklike Engelse boodskap is hieronder. Ek het haar verwys na die groepe, na Ancestry24, Rootsweb se lyste, Heather se lys vir beginners, ens.
Marlene / Meerkat ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vanne: SENEKAL / SCOTT / NORTJé (of NORTIER) / VAN DER WALT / ZIEHL / KROG / STRYDOM / KRUGER ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Boodskap 2. PRINSLOO'S Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:44 am (PST)
En nog 'n keer...... Die Prinsloo's: - Arend, ek het nog nie op die Prinsloo/du Preez afgekom nie, ongelukkig nie, jammer hoor.
266. Adriaan Gerrits Prinsloo (Stamvader), son of Gerrit Hendriksz and Willemtge Jans, was born In 1646 in Tergouw, Gouda, Netherlands, was christened on 30 Dec 1646 in St Janskerk, Gouda, Netherlands, and died circa 1697 in Cape Town, Cape Province at age 51. Noted events in his life were:
• He emigrated in 1676 from Netherlands. Adriaan married Aeltje Claasen circa 1680. Children from this marriage were:
133 I. Gerritje Prinsloo Ii. Alida Prinsloo was born in 1683 and was christened on 10 Oct 1683 in Cape Town, Cape Province. Iii. Nicolaas Prinsloo was born in 1686 and was christened on 11 Aug 1686 in Cape Town, Cape Province. Iv. Joachim Prinsloo was born in 1689 and was christened on 4 Feb 1689 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
267. Aeltje Claasen was born in 1662 in Ameyde, South Holland, Netherlands and was christened circa 1682 in Ameyde, South Holland, Netherlands. Aeltje married Adriaan Gerrits Prinsloo (Stamvader) circa 1680. Aeltje next married Lourens Heyns on 14 Dec 1698. Erkenning aan Cornel Viljoeen. Kom uit haar lys van my Oberholzer voorouers
Adriaan PRINSLOO
Adriaan Gerrits PRINSLOO, die stamvader van hierdie familie was van Tergouw in Nederland, hy was die seun van Gerrit Hendriksz en Willemtje Jans. Volgens GC de Wet, p. 119, was hy 'n ongeletterde vryman Hy en sy eggenote, Alida CLAASEN, het vier kinders gehad.
B1 Gerritje gedoop Kaapstad 24 Aug 1681, X Guilliam Visagie B2 Alida gedoop Kaapstad 10 Okt 1683, skynbaar jonk oorlede is B3 Nicolaas gedoop Kaapstad 11 Aug 1686, X Kaapstad 1 Des 1709 Petronella VAN STADEN, het dus die PRINSLOO-geslag voortgeplant. Hy en Petronella was die ouers van sewe kinders: B4 Joachim gedoop 4 Feb 1689 skynbaar jonk oorlede is. KINDERS VAN NICOLAAS C1 Hendrik (1710). C2 Marthinus (1713). C3 Willem (1715), getroud 19.10.1742 met Maria Elisabeth KLOPPER; 8 kinders. C4 Joachim (1717), getroud 29.9.1748 met Johanna KEMP. C5 Aletta Catharina (1720). C6 Nicolaas (1725), burger te Stellenbosch en getroud 4.5.1777 met Hester VAN STADEN; 4 kinders. C7 Marthinus (1725).
Nadat Adriaan oorlede is het Alida weer getrou 14 Desember 1698 met Lourens Heyns Bronne: J.H Redelinghuys, Die Afrikaner Familienaamboek & Personalia, (1955) SAG, Vol 8, p. 477 - 493 GC de Wet, Die Vryliede en Vryswartes in die Kaapse Nedersetting: 1657 - 1707 Bydrae: Pieter Conradie [email protected] Navorsing: Die volgende was verskaf deur Martinus C Prinsloo. VERSLAG ONDERZOEK PRINSLOO Overeenkomst Zoeken naar een antwoord op de volgende vragen: 1. Wie was Adriaan Gerrits? 2. Wanneer en op welk schip kwam hij naar Afrika? 3. Waarnaar verwijst ‘t Loo? 4. Bestond de naam Prinsloo vroeger in Nederland? De afgesproken onderzoekstijd is 6 onderzoeksuren exclusief reiskosten. Over alle punten is eerder al afzonderlijk berichtgeving gestuurd. Hieronder volgen nog eens de grote lijnen onder vermelding van de geraadpleegde archivalia. Het gedeelte over de VOC is aangevuld met gegevens over alle archivalia, waarin gezocht is. Het overzicht wordt beëindigd met conclusies en de mogelijkheden voor verder onderzoek. 1. Arie Gerritsz Huwelijk Vertrekpunt is de vermelding in het boek van C.C. De Villiers,Geslagsregisters van die ou Kaapse Families (Kaapstad/Amsterdam 1966), p.739: Adriaan Gerrits Prinsloo, v. Tergouw (Gouda) x Alida Claassen, v. Ameyde. In Gouda blijkt van dit echtpaar een trouwakte aanwezig: Getrout den 7 meij 1679 Arie Gerritsz van der Gou j[onghe] m[an] wonende buyten poort Met Aeltie Claes van Ameyde j[onghe] d[ochter] wonende buyten poort Bron: Archief Hervormde gemeente (Nederduits gereformeerd), trouwboek St. Jan, 1673 -1682, folio 91 verso (signatuur 2.112 nummer 19a). Vindplaats: Streekarchiefdienst Hollands Midden, Groeneweg 30, 2801 ZC Gouda Nederland. Geboorte Er is niet vastgesteld wie de ouders van Arie Gerritsz zijn. Er zijn 3 mogelijke kandidaten: 13 augustus 1653 Gedoopt: Ariaentgen Gerritsz Vader: Pieter Gerritsz Moeder: Jannichien Joris Getuigen: Hubert Pieters, Neeltgen Joris 11 maart 1654 Gedoopt: Ariaentjen Gerritsz Vader: Willem Gerritsz Moeder: Jannichjen Jans Getuigen: Maria de Bont, Cornelis Jansz, Marchje Jans, Joosjen Joris 1 April 1655 Gedoopt: Arien Gerritsz Vader: Gerrit Gerritsz Moeder: Neeltjen Joris Getuigen: Huijbert Pieters, Gieltjen Joris Bron: Archief Hervormde gemeente (Nederduits gereformeerd), doopboek St. Jan 1649 - 1662, (signatuur 2.111 nummer 2). Jan van Loo. Gouda, 3 oktober 1998. Het dit van Prinsloo webwerf gekry.
En weer danksy oom Thys: Dit is stamouers van onse ou grote, oud-springbok Frik du Preez: - (vyfde geslag) Maria Elizabeth Prinsloo *1790 in Kaapstad. X 1812 met Thomas Andreas Dreyer *1784 in George. Ek het 'n 12 voet tafel nodig vir my eiesoortige familie, ek weet nie watter eeu gaan ek alles bymekaar las nie.... Dit voel naderhand of almal van almal familie is.
Berna
Boodskap 3a. NOG VERMEULENS Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:45 am (PST)
Hallo weer 'n keer
Nog Vermeulens......
30. Jan Gabriel Vermeulen, son of Cornelis Vermeulen and Adriana Du Plooy, was born in 1747, was Christened on 22 Jan 1747, and died before 1815. Jan married Johanna Intrapniet, daughter of Walter Intrapniet (Stamvader) and Catharina Jacobs, on 1 Nov 1772 in Tulbagh, Cape Province. Children from this marriage were:
I. Johanna Catharina Vermeulen was born circa 1773. Ii. Petrus Cornelis Vermeulen was born on 1 Jul 1773, was christened on 13 Feb 1774, And died on 11 Apr 1837 in farm "Elandsfontein", Winterberg, Colesberg, Cape Province at age 63. Iii. Jan Gabriel Vermeulen was born in 1776 and was christened on 12 Oct 1776. Iv. Jan Walters Vermeulen was born in 1779 and was christened on 7 Feb 1779. V. Maria Adriana Vermeulen was born in 1781 and was christened on 25 Feb 1781. Vi. Catharina Elizabeth Vermeulen was born in 1783, was christened on 9 Feb 1783, And died before 12 Mar 1815. Vii. Gabriel Jacobus Vermeulen was born in 1785 and was christened on 27 Nov 1785. Viii. Guilliam Christoffel Vermeulen was born in 1788 and was christened on 5 Nov 1788. Ix. Anna Margaretha Vermeulen was born in 1790 and was christened on 4 Nov 1790. X. Dirk Johannes Vermeulen was born in 1792 and was christened on 23 Dec 1792. XI. Carel Reynier Vermeulen was born in 1794 and was christened on 14 Dec 1794.
Jan next married Johanna Maria Van Vreeden on 19 Nov 1797 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: I. Jacoba Petronella Vermeulen was born in 1797 and was christened on 22 Nov 1797. Ii. Anna Maria Vermeulen was born in 1798 and was christened on 4 Nov 1798. Iii. Hendrina Johanna Vermeulen was born in 1799, was christened on 24 Nov 1799, And died circa 1803 at age 4. Iv. Rachel Aletta Vermeulen was born in 1801 and was christened on 11 Oct 1801. 15 v. Hendrina Johanna Vermeulen Vi. Hendrik Johannes Vermeulen was born in 1805 and was christened on 20 May 1805. Vii. Adriana Petronella Vermeulen was born in 1807 and was christened on 18 May 1807. 10 Produced by Legacy on 21 Dec 2007 60. Cornelis Vermeulen, son of Dirk Vermeulen (Stamvader) and Jannetje Hansen, was born in 1708 And was christened on 12 Aug 1708. Cornelis married Adriana Du Plooy on 24 Nov 1743 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: I. Johanna Catharina Vermeulen was born in 1744 and was christened on 6 Jun 1744. 30 ii. Jan Gabriel Vermeulen Iii. Dirk Cornelis Vermeulen was born in 1750 and was christened on 18 Jan 1750. Iv. Guilliam Vermeulen was born in 1752 and was christened on 5 Nov 1752. V. Maria Adriana Vermeulen was born in Nov 1753. Vi. Maria Elisabeth Vermeulen was born in 1758 and was christened on 2 Jul 1758. Vii. Rachel Vermeulen was born in 1763 and was christened on 6 Mar 1763. 61. Adriana Du Plooy, daughter of Simon Du Plooy (Stamvader) and Catharina Koopman, was born In Mar 1712, was christened on 5 Sep 1723, and died on 16 Dec 1809 at age 97
Adriana married Cornelis Vermeulen on 24 Nov 1743 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Erkenning Cornel Viljoen
Berna
Boodskap 3b. Vir Berna- Nie VERMEULENS maar du PLOOY Posted by: "Simon du Plooy" [email protected] sjdp1951 Thu Jan 3, 2008 1:55 pm (PST)
Berna, goeienaand uit Potch, In een van jou interresante briewe gee jy onder andere die volgende inligting: "Nog Vermeulens...... 30. Jan Gabriel Vermeulen, son of Cornelis Vermeulen and Adriana Du Plooy, was born in 1747, was 61. Adriana Du Plooy, daughter of Simon Du Plooy (Stamvader) and Catharina Koopman, was born in Mar 1712, was christened on 5 Sep 1723, and died on 16 Dec 1809 at age 97"
En dan "Erkenning Cornel Viljoen"
Wat ek in goeder trou bevraagteken is die geboortedatum van Adriana wat jou bron aangee as Maart 1712 terwyl sy eers gedoop is 5 Sept 1723. Ek is in besit van die betrokke bladsy van die Stellenbosch Doopregister waarop die doop voorkom en geen melding van 'n geboortedatum word gemaak nie. Wat wel op die doopinskrywing voorkom is eerstens die naam(van dopeling), dan 'n teken naastenby so: "&". Dan volg die woord vader (maar in die geval kan dit ook "vaar" wees)Sijmon de Plooy en "moeder"Catrina Coopman.
Die & teken en vader(vaar) kom by al die dope op die betrokke blqadsy voor en verskil net afhangend van die inskrywer se skryfstyl. Ek vermoed jou bron lees die "& vaar" as "8 jaar(oud)" maar 8 Jr. bereken vanaf doopdatum 1723 is steeds nie 1715 nie (Wel 1815) Ek stel baie belang in die oorsprong van die 1712 datum sodat ek my rekords kan aanpas MITS dit korrek is.
Vriendelike Groete,
Simon.
Boodskap 3c. Herstel datum! Vir Berna- Nie VERMEULENS maar du PLOOY Posted by: "Simon du Plooy" [email protected] sjdp1951 Thu Jan 3, 2008 2:05 pm (PST)
"maar 8 Jr. Bereken vanaf doopdatum 1723 is steeds nie 1715 nie (Wel 1815)"!!!
Sulke rekenkunde sal julle nie gou weer sien nie!! Vervang 1815 met 1715 in die derde laaste reel AUB!!
SdP
Boodskap 4. Nieuwoudt Nasate Posted by: "dickydube" [email protected] dickydube Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:53 am (PST) More Lys Lesers,
My man se oupa Christoffel Jacobus NIEUWOUDT *25/9/1902, Hanover en +7/11/1956 Boksburg het alle kontak met sy broers en susters verloor. Ek sou vreeslik graag in aanraking wou kom met die nasate van die volgende persone indien moontlik:
1. Karel Johannes Nieuwoudt *19/4/1884 - Rooikraal distrik Hanover, +18/2/1958 - George - X Daisy Alice Van der Spuy - hulle het 2 kinders gehad nl.
1. Dennis *13/7/1912 George +6/11/1919 George 2. Garth Charles *16/7/1917 George +25/8/1974 George X Agnes Bollen *2/9/1919 Port Elizabeth - hulle weer het 3 kinders gehad nl:
1. Anne *20/8/1943 George 2. Barbara *29/6/1946 George 3. Keith Charles *10/11/1948 George - later Sakeman te Uitenhage
2. Johannes Petrus NIEUWOUDT *9/4/1887 Hanover +14/6/1938 Johannesburg Algemene Hospitaal Nagwag by CED X te Heilbron met Magritha Magdalena MARAIS *4/1888 Kaap Provinsie +16/4/1948 Ferndale Johannesburg hulle het 6 kinders gahad nl.
1. Johannes Jacobus *1910?? 2. Charles Thomas *1912?? 3. Magrietha Aletta *1915?? 4. Christina Johanna *1918?? 5. Henrietha *1920?? 6. MargaretDaisy *1922??
3. Anna Francina NIEUWOUDT *28/12/1888 Hanover
4. Susanna Aletta NIEUWOUDT *17/7/1890 Hanover
5. Jacobus Roux NIEUWOUDT *20/9/1893 Hanover +22/4/1946 Witbank Hospitaal - Delwer te Graskop X Susanna Magdalena VAN WYk. Hulle het 2 kinders gehad nl.
1. Andre Catharina *25/1/1930 2. Christina Susanna *12/7/1931
6. Anna Deborah Hendrina NIEUWOUDT *15/11/1897 Hanover
7. Hendrik Roux NIEUWOUDT *19/7/1900 Hanover
Bovermelde inligting is uit die Nieuwoudt Boek bekom - en enige verdere hulp sal werklik waardeer word!!!
Vriendelike groete, Cathy Nieuwoudt Birmingham V.S.A.
5a. Kweekskool Jamesonpark Posted by: "Alta Roux" [email protected] genealogiefreak Thu Jan 3, 2008 10:26 am (PST)
Lysteraars
Watter kweekskool is/was in 1972 by Jamesonpark?
Dankie! Alta van Kinross
5b. Re: Kweekskool Jamesonpark Posted by: "Alta Griffiths" [email protected] griffithsalta Thu Jan 3, 2008 11:46 am (PST)
Alta ek onthou die afdraaibordjie ... maar dit is al!
Alta
5c. Re: Kweekskool Jamesonpark Posted by: "Alta Griffiths" [email protected] griffithsalta Thu Jan 3, 2008 12:06 pm (PST)
Volgens my oom was dit die Evangelies Gereformeerde kerk
My pa kan net onthou dat hulle muurbal gespeel het
Groete
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6a. du Plooy - help! Posted by: "Alta Roux" [email protected] genealogiefreak Thu Jan 3, 2008 10:26 am (PST)
Simon ea
Kan iemand my dalk help met ENIGE inligting rondom Petronella Elizabeth du Plooy *ca 1858 +na 1933 x 16.2.1880 Bloemfontein Methodiste Kerk met Christoffel Petrus Frederik Pieters *ca 1851 + voor 1933? Hulle het vermoedelik in die Bloemfontein omgewing gewoon. Ouers, kinders, enigiets sal welkom wees. Ek het slegs vier kinders wat moontlik hulle s'n kan wees.
BVD Alta van Kinross
6b. Re: du Plooy - help! Posted by: "christo.heymans" [email protected] christo.heymans Thu Jan 3, 2008 11:08 am (PST)
Beste Alta,
My inligting vanaf die OVS-huweliksregister is as volg: Christoffel Petrus Frederik Pieterse was 'n 28jr boer van die plaas Slangfontein, dist Bloemfontein en Petronella Elizabeth du Plooy was 'n 22jr van die plaas Grootfontein, distr Bloemfontein. Argiefverw. VS GBV 1877-81. Getroud gewees deur pastoor RF Hornabrook, getuies was VdKarst B en JJ Grant.
Grte. Christo
6c. Re: du Plooy - help! Posted by: "Simon du Plooy" [email protected] sjdp1951 Thu Jan 3, 2008 1:08 pm (PST)
Alta,
Die egpaar is een van die vele wat daar net 'n huwelik voor bestaan en geen ingting verder nie - nie 'n Naairs vewysing nie - NIKS!
Ek kan byvoeg dat ek slegs een ander "Petronella Elizabeth" het en sy was 'n nooi Le Roux = 16.11.1800 x 5.3.1820 Beaufort-Wes Pieter Simon du Plooy en van hulle 5 dogters op rekord is daar nie een Petronella Elizabeth nie. Hulle is wel goeie kandidate om oupa en ouma van die Petronella Elizabeth onder bespreking te wees maar uiteraard is dit net bespiegeling.
Ek het ook gaan kyk na die Bloemfontein plase omstreeks 1900. Die eienaar van Grootfontein 722 was Pieter Gabriel Jacobus Haasbroek en van Grootfontein 126 ene Esther Lombard. Op Slangfontein was Jozua Johannes van Tonder baas van die plaas. Lyk nie of dit hier enigsins help met die probleem nie.
As jy die kinders se name kan verskaf mag dit dalk van hulp wees.
Groetnis, Simon.
6d. Re: du Plooy - help! Posted by: "Alta Roux" [email protected] genealogiefreak Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:50 pm (PST)
Simon en Christo (Heymans)
Baie dankie vir julle hulp.
Simon, jy se: as ek die kinders se name kan verskaf, sal dit dalk van hulp wees - ek stem saam - AS ek hulle gehad het! Wat ek het, is die volgende: 1.Christoffel Petrus Frederik (geen SK) x Annie Maria Rabie *1886 +1928 - sy laat 'n SK na; twee kinders, waarvan die oudste ook Christoffel Petrus Frederik was - 'n regte raai- raai-riepa plasing, dus. 2.Bernardus Hermanus *24.12.1890 +6.8.1966 Bloemftn - geen ouers op sy SK X Sinnie Kathleen Jacquire. Hulle kinders het die interessantste name, maar nog 'n raai-raai-riepa plasing op grond van die tweede dogter se naam van Petronella Elizabeth. Dan onthou 'n dogter van bg BH Pieters ook nog 'n 3.Herman en 4.Marie!!!!!!!!!
In 1892 is die vader van Christoffel Petrus Frederik Pieters op Slangfontein oorlede - hy was 'n boer, en waarskynlik het hy net gehuur.
Ek vorder goed met die nageslag van B H Pieters, maar die voorsate is nog duister!
Dankie Alta
7a. Re: KNOTTs of SOUTH AFRICA Posted by: "Patricia Finlay" [email protected] pajfil Thu Jan 3, 2008 10:39 am (PST)
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8a. Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, President van die Republiek van Stellala Posted by: "Lucas Rinken" [email protected] rinkenlg Thu Jan 3, 2008 12:17 pm (PST)
Liewe vriende.
Dennis was beslis reg toe hy aan my geskryf het en gesê het:
"Jy ontneem jouself ook van die geleentheid om hulp te vra en te kry van die vele ander deelnemers."
In die afgelope jaar was daar dikwels geleenthede waar ek bittergraag hulp so wou vra - maar nouja, ek moes maar myself bedwing.
Hier is nou weer so 'n geval. Soos julle almal seker weet stel ek baie belang in die de WET familie.
Gertruida Jacoba Sophia de WET a1b1c1d1e8f3g1h10 * 28.1.1877 trou met Alwyn Petrus SMIT b6c7d2e1f5g1h2 * 27.8.1876 en hulle het 'n seun Alwyn Petrus SMIT * 18.10.1907 + 8.1.1965. Sy notas lees: He came from the farm Uitsig, Victoria West, and later bought the farm Seeis in the Windhoek district S.W.A. later becoming Namibia.
Hy trou 26.7.1943 met Marguerite Irene de JAGER * 6.7.1917 dv. Matthys Johan de Jager * Beaufort-Wes 23.1.1872 en Martha Maria van NIEKERK, * 9.4.1873 + 17.9.1953 en haar vader was:
Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK wie se notas (hoofsaaklik uit Eric Rosenthal se Encyclopaedia of Southern Africa) lees:
"He was President of the Stellaland Republic
Boer freebooter, born about 1840 near Fauresmith, O.F.S. He settled near the present town of Christiana in the Transvaal, on the farm Kromellenboog, now the centre of a famous irrigation scheme. During the Inter-tribal wars on the Western Transvaal frontier, between Mankoroane and Massouw, he brought a party of volunteers to support the latter. In gratitude Massouw gave him a piece of land, on which he set up the miniture republic of Stellaland (q.v.) in 1883. He later became Chief of Police in Pretoria and died in 1896."
Maar dink julle ek kon hom in SAG kry? Miskien is ek blind ook nog maar indien iemand meer van hom weet, ontvang ek so graag die besonderhede.
Te meer nog, want soos die toeval dit bewerkstellig het, gaan ek net nadat ek hierdie besonderhede ingevoer het, oor daarnatoe om nuwe registrasies op die GGSA webwerf goed te keur en wat is my verbasing groot toe ek daar 'n van Niekerk vind wat later my e- pos beantwoord en sê:
"Dankie vir die spoedige diens! Ek is oppad na die buiteland tot middel Februarie en sal eers weer terug wees om en by die 17de Februarie.
Gerrit van NIekerk was my oupa grootjie en ek het nogal heelwat info deur die jare bymekaar gemaak oor hom. Sodra ek terug is in die land sal ek kontak maak en dan info uitruil en kyk waar ek van hulp kan wees."
Nou wil ek bittergraag darem ook iets vir hom kan gee en vra graag enige hulp wat die van Niekerk kenners dalk kan bied.
Dankie byvoorbaat en vriendelike groete,
Lucas
8b. Re: Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, President van die Republiek van Stel Posted by: "M.C v.d Merwe" [email protected] Thu Jan 3, 2008 12:47 pm (PST)
Beste Lucas
Ek het toevallig die boek "gedenkboek van M J de Jager", vertaal en bygewerk deur Alwyn P Smit, seun van die A P Smith wat jy hieronder noem. Ek het die Pa geken en ook die seun en sy moeder Irene (de Jager) leef nog ( 90 jr)
Alwyn jnr woon op Kaap Agulhas en sy epos adres is :[email protected]
Groete Marie van der Merwe in Swakopmund
8c. Re: Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, President van die Republiek van Stel Posted by: "Dennis Pretorius" [email protected] dennis_pretorius Thu Jan 3, 2008 1:44 pm (PST)
Hallo Lucas
SABW sê heelwat - as jy wil sal ek dit vir jou skandeer - maar genealogies net die volgende:
Van NIEKERK, Gerrit Jacobus geb Poortje, Fauresmith dist 6 Jul 1849 en sterf Pretoria 23 Okt 1896. Seun van Antonie van Niekerk en Martha Maria van HEERDEN
Gerrit trou met Hester Cecilia ROOS en drie seuns en sewe dogters is gebore uit die huwelik.
Ek het na SAG gekyk en Antonie is waarskynlik die Johannes Antonie heel onder op bls 214 van SAG v 6
Groetnis
Dennis Pretorius Genealogical Researcher/Genealogiese Navorser Krugersdorp, S A Tel: +27-83-679-8541 Fax/Faks +27-86-609-8541 Member of GSSA NEC / Lid van GGSA NUK Owner of SAGenealogie E-mail list/Lyseienaar - SAGenealogie poslys
9a. Re: BOEK OPSOEK asseblief Posted by: "Helena Garner" [email protected] verdriet2000 Thu Jan 3, 2008 12:26 pm (PST)
Gene,
Ek het The British settlement of Natal van Hattersley. Cambridge: Univ Press, 1950. Op p. 58 word verwys na C. Pistorius: "supplying bricks and tiles from his new brickyard beyond the vlei ... " en p. 215: "Tiles of sort were made in the capital in the 'forties by Carl Pistorius."
Groete. Helena Garner.
10. Gert Petrus SLABBERT uit Uitenhage Posted by: "Mark Slabbert" [email protected] telemagus Thu Jan 3, 2008 12:59 pm (PST)
Baie lekker om Afrikaans hier te kan praat. Hello aan almal.
My soektog op hierdie stadium is inligting aangaande my oupagrootjie Gert Petrus SLABBERT van die Uitenhage of Steytlerville area naby Port Elizabeth.
Sy seun, my oupa, was ook Gert Petrus SLABBERT (g. 8 Aug 1896 tot 1969). Ek weet my oupa is in Uitenhage gebore. Volgens my oupa se oorlog papiere was sy ma se naam Maria Slabbert. Ek weet ook Maria en GP SLABBERT (my oupagrootjie) het die volgende kinders gehad:
Gert Petrus (oupa), Archie, George, Joe, Siaz, Agnes, Michael en miskien 'n Rosie SLABBERT.
Die meeste kinders is na 1900 en voor 1915 gebore en Maria SLABBERT het nog geleef in 1915.
My oupa en sy pa het op treine gewerk.
Enige informasie of raad sal waardeer word.
Mark Slabbert Brisbane Australia
11a. Re: DANNHAUSER stamregister Posted by: "brinkfamily2000" [email protected] brinkfamily2000 Thu Jan 3, 2008 3:51 pm (PST)
Hallo Annelie is dit moontlik dat jy weer na die Dannhauser stamregister kan kyk. Ek is op soek na die koppeling met die Prinsloo familie.
Groete Arend
12. (no subject) Posted by: "brinkfamily2000" [email protected] brinkfamily2000 Thu Jan 3, 2008 6:02 pm (PST)
Goeie more, ek bedel 2 opsoeke asb. As enige persoon kan help sal ek dit baie waardeer. Hulle is:
DEPOT TAB SOURCE MHG REFERENCE 3264/46 DESCRIPTION DU PREEZ, ALETTA SUSANNA. BORN PRINSLOO. REMARKS PREDECEASED SPOUSE JACOB SAMUEL DU PREEZ.
DEPOT TAB SOURCE ZTPD VOLUME_NO 8/546 REFERENCE 9601/1897 DESCRIPTION OPPOSED APPLICATION. JS DU PREEZ VERSUS EXECUTEUREN IN DEN BOEDEL VAN WYLEN AMMJ PRINSLOO.
Groete Arend
13. Re: Hugenotebloed in ons are. Posted by: "Anne Rust" [email protected] anne.rust Thu Jan 3, 2008 7:21 pm (PST)
Hi,
Ek wonder of iemand dalk hierdie boek het: Hugenotebloed in ons are. deur Le Roux, JG : 1988
Dankie
Anne
14. Boeke gesoek Posted by: "Anne Rust" [email protected] anne.rust Thu Jan 3, 2008 7:23 pm (PST)
Hi,
Ek wonder of iemand dalk hierdie boeke het: Boerekrygsgevangenes; 1899-1902. Onbekend : (date unknown)
Boere-offisiere; 1899-1902, Die Malan, J : (date unknown)
Dankie
Anne
15. ALBERTS Posted by: "Johan Brink" [email protected] Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:57 pm (PST)
Ek soek na besonderhede van Sarel Francois ALBERTS, boer "Soutpansdrif", distr Brits. Sy een seun Louis [Lewies] Jeremia Cornelius (6.5.1872-ca.24.11.1949) was getroud met Gezina Susanna née DU PLESSIS.
Groete
Johan
16a. Trollip Posted by: "Jorge Estreux" [email protected] jorgeestreux Thu Jan 3, 2008 9:32 pm (PST)
More almal,
Ek is steeds besig om te kyk of ek iemand kan help met sy voorouers. Ek soek steeds na Gladys Mary TROLLIP. Al wat ons het is dat sy in 1942 n seun gehad het. Sy was ongetroud, en op die kind se geboorte-sertifikaat staan dat Gladys toe 20 was. Die enigste moontlike Gladys op die oomblik is n egskeiding in Durban in 1959. Sou daar vir mense daardie jare n geboortedatum op n egskeiding verskyn het? Watter ander inligting kan moontlik verskyn op so n dokument?? Dit is n strooihalm, maar as mens slegs n geboortesertifikaat het van jou pa (wat as baba weggegee was en selfmoord gepleeg het toe jy 3 was) is enige bietjie inligting van waarde..
Groete Gert Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3041
Datum: Thu Jan 3, 2008
Daar is 10 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: Trollip From: Alta Griffiths
1b. Re: Trollip From: Jorge Estreux
2. STEEN(E)KAMP Jacobus Christoffel Rudolph/Rudolf x GROBLER From: Par Excellance
3a. Re: DANNHAUSER stamregister From: Annelie Els
4a. Re: Hugenotebloed in ons are. From: Sylvester Rascher
5a. TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg From: sastamouers
6. (Koerant) Beeld 04 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
7. Ziehl en Hugenote bloed in ons are From: MJS Jordaan, navorsing
8a. de Villiers hulp benodig asb From: Karin Serfontein
9a. Re: Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, President van die Republiek van Stel From: Ben Cilliers Boodskap 1a. Re: Trollip Posted by: "Alta Griffiths" [email protected] griffithsalta Thu Jan 3, 2008 9:58 pm (PST)
>> Watter ander inligting kan moontlik verskyn op so 'n dokument??
Geboorte sertifikate en huwelik sertifikate Adresse Datum van egskeiding Minderjarige kinders se name word meestal genoem, soms ook hulle geboortedatums
In sommige gevalle waar die inhoud baie sensitief is word die dokumente onder 'n hofbevel vernietig! Ek het noual 3 of 4 sulkes teegekom in my eie navorsing.
Groete
Alta Griffiths Posbus 1998 DURBANVILLE 7551
Tel: 021 - 975 5491 Sel: 083 948 5207
Navorsing: Volle vanne:- Rudolph, Van der Sandt, Gloy, Cothill. Asook die Oliviers en Slabberts van Heidelberg, Tvl tot by 1930
Boodskap 1b. Re: Trollip Posted by: "Jorge Estreux" [email protected] jorgeestreux Thu Jan 3, 2008 10:51 pm (PST)
Baie dakie Alta!
Is daar iemand wat dalk binnekort na die argiewe in Greyville Durban gaan besoek wat die dokument vir my kan opsoek??? 5A/491 I307/59 MUSGROVE Gladys Mary born TROLLIP Illiquid case 19590719 Divorce Leonard Musgrove
Groete Gert
Boodskap 2. STEEN(E)KAMP Jacobus Christoffel Rudolph/Rudolf x GROBLER Posted by: "Par Excellance" [email protected] duplessislouw Thu Jan 3, 2008 10:18 pm (PST)
Voorspoed vir die Nuwe Jaar aan al die Mede-geners
Ek sal dit waardeer indien die Steenkamp/Grobler en of Van der Walt-kenners my kan help met die volgende persoon; wie was hulle ouers?
STEEN(E)KAMP Jacobus Christoffel Rudolph/Rudolf * Onbekend x 6.6.1880 Kaoko Otavi op pad na Angola met Susanna Catharina Petronella GROBLER. * Onbekend Sy trou later 16.3.1893 met VAN DER WALT Johannes Gysbertus * 1868
U hulp sal waardeer word.
Louw du Plessis
011 888 3433 082 507 4639
Boodskap 3a. Re: DANNHAUSER stamregister Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Thu Jan 3, 2008 11:05 pm (PST)
Hallo Arend,
My Oom het Koster toe getrek. Ek weet dat hy nou baie rondreis na my tante se onlangse afsterwe. Ek sal hom vra sodra ek weet hy is terug by die huis. Jy moet asseblief net laat weet presies wat dit is wat jy soek.
Groetnis Annelie
Boodskap 4a. Re: Hugenotebloed in ons are. Posted by: "Sylvester Rascher" [email protected] sylvesterrascher Thu Jan 3, 2008 11:25 pm (PST)
Hi Anne,
Ek het die boek Hugenotebloed in ons are deur Le Roux, JG : 1988
Kan vir jou iets opkyk as jy wil
Rassie
Boodskap 5a. TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg Posted by: "sastamouers" [email protected] sastamouers Thu Jan 3, 2008 11:36 pm (PST)
Hallo Willeen,
Gepraat van die leierskap van die TVK, aan die einde van die oorlog.
Ek het hierdie bietjie inligting: Net Malan het aangehou veg in die Kaap, die TVK was onder die leierskap van Rudolph. Hulle het toe gesplit in 5 kleiner Commandos. Binne 'n maand was Rudolph sleg gewond en het Carel van Heerden die leierskap van die TVK oorgeneem. Op 18 Mei 1902 toe hulle Aberdeen aanval sneuwel Van Heerden. Die leierskap van die TVK het toe op die skouers geval van Hennie van Rensburg. Van Rensburg het toe gedien as die laaste Commandant van die TVK.
Het ek die TVK leierskap by die stert beet? of is dit nie teenstrydig feite nie?
Andre v R
Boodskap 6. (Koerant) Beeld 04 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 3, 2008 11:43 pm (PST)
DU PREEZ; Willie. Roudiens: NG Kerk, Constantia Kruin, h v Yolande- & Liebenbergstraat, Constantia Kloof, Roodepoort, Gauteng provinsie, 07/01/2008, 12:00. (Beeld - 04/01/2008) Martin's Begrafnisdienste, Jorrissenstraat 325, Krugersdorp, Gauteng provinsie, 011-660-5681.
EWING; Peter John + 22/12/2007, in lewe van Pretoria. Gedenkdiens: AVBOB Kapel, Pretoria-Wes, 08/01/2008, 14:30. Sal onthou word deur Mary, Tracey-Anne, Cuan, Patricia, Shane and Ingrid. (Beeld - 04/01/2008)
JANSE VAN RENSBURG; Danel. Begrafnisdiens: NG Gemeente Lux Mundi, Forisstraat, Garsfontein, Pretoria 08/01/2008, 10:30. (Beeld - 04/01/2008) Sonja Smith Begrafnisgroep, Centurion, Pretoria, 012-654-9902.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 7. Ziehl en Hugenote bloed in ons are Posted by: "MJS Jordaan, navorsing" [email protected] Thu Jan 3, 2008 11:56 pm (PST)
Suid Afrikaanse Genealogie - South African GenealogyBeste Marlene en Anne
Marlene hier was altyd Ziehl's in Fauresmith in die Vrystaat. Anne die boek behoort jy by enige groot biblioteek te kry.
Groete Marthinus Jordaan
Dr MJS Jordaan (PhD)
Bestel van Tourism in South Africa Order of Tourism in South Africa [email protected]
Jordaan genealogie en erfenis Jordaan geneaology and heritage [email protected]
URL: www.mjsjordaan.co.za Sel 084 577 3226 Fax: 086 622 6382
Boodskap 8a. de Villiers hulp benodig asb Posted by: "Karin Serfontein" [email protected] Fri Jan 4, 2008 12:20 am (PST)
Dagse almal,
Kan iemand my asb help met inligting rakende Jurie Johannes de Villiers. Hy is gebore 30-12-1927, oorlede 06-1993. Jurie se moeder en Ge Korsten se pa was broer en suster.
Enige hulp sal baie waardeer word.
Geniet die dag,
Karin.
Boodskap 9a. Re: Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, President van die Republiek van Stel Posted by: "Ben Cilliers" [email protected] Fri Jan 4, 2008 12:32 am (PST)
Dag Lyslede
Tydens die aaneenlopende gevegte wat uiteindelik uitgeloop het op die stigting van die die Republiek van Stellaland, en ook van die Republiek, Land van Gosen, het twee ander karakters ook 'n toonaangewende rol gespeel. Die een was 'n Gey van Pittius. Die ander persoon was een van Gey van Pittius se ondersteuners, naamlik 'n Sarel Petrus CILLIERS.
Enige inligting oor CILLIERS se afkoms, sy betrokkenheid by die gebeure in daardie geweste (dit was redelik onguur) en veral inligting oor enige VENTERs wat met hom geassosieer was sal baie waardeer word.
Gesondheid in die rondheid vir die nuwe jaar!!
Ben Cilliers Mosselbaai Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3042
Datum: Fri Jan 4, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Vir Berna- Nie VERMEULENS maar du PLOOY From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
1b. RE. Re:Vir Berna- Nie VERMEULENS maar du PLOOY From: Simon du Plooy
1c. Vir Berna- Steeds Adriana (oba Ariana) From: Simon du Plooy
1d. Re: Vir Berna- Steeds Adriana (oba Ariana) From: Cornel Viljoen
2. Re: Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, President van die Republiek van Stel From: Andrew Kok
3a. Re: du Plooy - help! From: Simon du Plooy
4a. Re: Ziehl en Hugenote bloed in ons are From: Marlene (Meerkat) Spies
5a. Nog 'n du Plooy From: Alta Roux
5b. Re: Nog 'n du Plooy From: Simon du Plooy
5c. Nog 'n du Plooy From: Hetta Scholtz
5d. Re: Nog 'n du Plooy From: Simon du Plooy
6. WALTERS From: Leoni
7a. Oud President VAN NIEKERK, VERWEY EN GREEFF. From: Francois Greeff
7b. Re: Oud President VAN NIEKERK, VERWEY EN GREEFF. From: Lucas Rinken
8a. Re: Vir Rassie - Hugenotebloed in ons are. From: Anne Rust
8b. Re: Vir Anne - Hugenotebloed in ons are. From: Sylvester Rascher
9. Esterhuyse Willem Johannes From: Louis Olivier
10. Gerritsen From: Johann vd Berg
11a. Re: TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg From: Willeen Olivier
12. Kanonne From: Hetta Scholtz
13. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 04 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
14. Greef en Lichtenburg en Twycross From: Dennis Laptop
15.1. New file uploaded to SAGenealogie From: [email protected]
16. Re: Oud President VAN NIEKERK, VERWEY EN die GREEFF eposlys. From: [email protected]
17. BMD's and Estates advertised in local newspapers. From: [email protected] Boodskap 1a. Vir Berna- Nie VERMEULENS maar du PLOOY Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Fri Jan 4, 2008 1:23 am (PST)
Goeie môre Simon, Cornel en al die ander
Nee, ek pleit bewusteloos hier Simon! Daar was waarskynlik 'n baie goeie rede hoekom die kind eers 8 of 11 jaar na haar geboorte gedoop is? Indien 8 jaar dan is dit 1715 maar as sy 1712 gebore is soos dit in Cornel se data verskyn was sy 11 jaar voor sy gedoop is. Het ek en jy nou die somme reg... .hahaha?! Toe maar ek is glad nie wiskundig nie! Regter brein kunstenaar!
Cornel ons sal nou jou hulp hier moet inroep jong...., ek kan nie met jou kalwers ploeg nie. Ek het nie die bewyse nie. Kan jy Simon van hulp wees? Ons sal jou info waardeer.
Vandag darem so lafenissie hier in die ou Bosveld, so net na 02h00 vm het ons bietjie reën gehad en die meter het vanoggend 14mm gewys.
'n Wonderlike dag vandag vir almal.
Berna
Boodskap 1b. RE. Re:Vir Berna- Nie VERMEULENS maar du PLOOY Posted by: "Simon du Plooy" [email protected] sjdp1951 Fri Jan 4, 2008 1:37 am (PST)
Dankie vir die antwoord Berna- Ek is altyd opgewonde oor "nuwe inligting" en Adriana geb. 1712 is totaal en al nuut. Ons wag op Cornel se antwoord.
Groetnis. Simon.
Boodskap 1c. Vir Berna- Steeds Adriana (oba Ariana) Posted by: "Simon du Plooy" [email protected] sjdp1951 Fri Jan 4, 2008 7:58 am (PST)
Berna(en wie ookal belang stel),
Ek het met my vangenoot Andre Du P gekontroleer en hy het die volgende verskaf:
Ariana de Plooy. Weduwee wyle Corneliz Vermeulen oud 87 Jr 9 mnd. op 10.12.1809.
Sy bron is Stellenbosch gemeente se Kerkregister(Sterftes) Argiefverwysing 2184-22.
Ek is nou oortuig dat Cornel (soos meeste van ons-soms) hier 'n bona-fide vingerfout gepleeg het en die datum 1712 geskryf i.p.v 1722 - verskoonbaar.
Groete, Simon.
Boodskap 1d. Re: Vir Berna- Steeds Adriana (oba Ariana) Posted by: "Cornel Viljoen" [email protected] cornel.viljoen Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:04 pm (PST)
Goeie dag Simon en Berna,
Ek het so bietjie deur my bronne gewerk en stem heelhaartiglik saam met Simon. Dit was n tikfout aan my kant. Die korrekte datum soos ek dit het is dat Adriana Du Plooy gebore is in Maart 1722 gedoop op 5 Sep 1723 in Stellenbosch.
Jammer vir enige ongerief met die inligting. Ek skat die pons duiwel het sy hande op my sleutelbord gehad.
Groete uit n baie warm Melbourne,
Cornel
Boodskap 2. Re: Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, President van die Republiek van Stel Posted by: "Andrew Kok" [email protected] jakok2001 Fri Jan 4, 2008 1:27 am (PST)
Lucas
Die Smitte se seun was Alwyn Petrus Smit, * 05 Jun 1948 Windhoek en gedoop in die Seeis-polisiestasie. Hy trou op 31 Jul 1971 in die Toringkerk, Paarl met Catharina Maria (Marina) Cillie, * 18 Apr 1949 groete
Andrew Kok
******************************** Dr J Andrew Kok Deputy Director: Knowledge Management Department of Social Development 7th floor, Union House, Queen Victoria St, Cape Town 021 483 6201
Boodskap 3a. Re: du Plooy - help! Posted by: "Simon du Plooy" [email protected] sjdp1951 Fri Jan 4, 2008 2:26 am (PST)
Alta- nee jammer, op die stadium is Petronella Elizabeth se mense vir my een groot geheimenis. Die beste waartoe en nou instaat is is om jou raai-raai-riepa vermoedens aan te teken en te hoop op EENDAG!.
Simon.
Boodskap 4a. Re: Ziehl en Hugenote bloed in ons are Posted by: "Marlene (Meerkat) Spies" [email protected] meerkat2s Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:23 am (PST)
Hallo, Marthinus
Die ZIEHLs in Fauresmith was my pa en sy tweede gesin ... hulle was van 1978 daar. Sy vrou (LUBBE) se familie was daar vir vyf geslagte, maar haar broer (die laaste Andries Johannes LUBBE van Spitskop) is nou in Australië.
Groete! Marlene
Boodskap 5a. Nog 'n du Plooy Posted by: "Alta Roux" [email protected] genealogiefreak Fri Jan 4, 2008 4:00 am (PST)
Simon ea
Terwyl ons van die du Plooys skinder:
Ek het 'n Johanna Maria du Plooy x Johannes Gerhardus Lourens Pieters *12.9.1843 Riversdal +8.6.1908 Potgietersstr 78 Pretoria. Kinders: 1. Martha Jacoba Petronella 2. jacobus Hendricus 3. Cornelis Simon Petrus 4. Johannes Gerhardus Lourens 5. Johanna Maria
Ek dink sy mag dalk familie wees van onse Petronella Elizabeth du Plooy *ca 1858, bloot omdat haar man en Petronella Elizabeth se man, Christoffel Petrus Frederik, se pa, Jacobus Hendricus, twee broers was.
Weet jy dalk meer van haar?
Dankie Alta van Kinross
Boodskap 5b. Re: Nog 'n du Plooy Posted by: "Simon du Plooy" [email protected] sjdp1951 Fri Jan 4, 2008 6:26 am (PST)
Alta, Van haar ewemin, Inteendeel met jou gegewe inligting het die kinders se name ook bygekom - wat ek nie voorheen gehad het nie.
Onderstaande inligting van jou af ontvang 'n jaar of drie gelede. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Johanna Maria du Plooy x Johannes en Gerhardus Lourens Pieters b1 Martha Jacoba Petronella Pieters * 22.7.1878 + 30.1.1942 X Andries Francois du Toit *11.6.1877 +27.10.1918
Bron: E-Pos ontvang van: Alta Roux- 082 844 5195 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Boodskap 5c. Nog 'n du Plooy Posted by: "Hetta Scholtz" [email protected] hester_scholtz Fri Jan 4, 2008 10:08 am (PST)
Simon
Hier is vir jou nog 'n Du Plooy. Weet nie of jy al die inligting het nie:
Johanna Christina Robbertze (geb Du Plooy) Gebore 21 Mei 1885 of 1888. Oorlede 3 Augustus 1944. Laat weet as jy 'n foto van die grafsteen soek. Die graf is langs/in die konsentrasiekampkerkhof, Nylstroom.
Groete Hetta Scholtz
Boodskap 5d. Re: Nog 'n du Plooy Posted by: "Simon du Plooy" [email protected] sjdp1951 Fri Jan 4, 2008 10:39 am (PST)
Dankie Hetta - ek het basies dieselfde inligting, maar sy en eggenoot kan ook nog nie geplaas word nie. Indien moontlik sal die foto welkom wees (Dit maak die "bewyslas" makliker!)
[Johanna Christina du Plooy * 21.5.1885 ¢÷ 3.8.1944 ¦¸ Nylstroom Begraafplaas x Pn ROBBERTZE]
Groetnis,
Simon.
Boodskap 6. WALTERS Posted by: "Leoni" [email protected] leonibarnard Fri Jan 4, 2008 4:14 am (PST)
Vanoggend (4.01.2008) oorlede in 'n motorongeluk:
Anna Hiletjie WALTERS, *15.02.1948 dv Roelof Petrus WALTERS(*16.01.1915 Moreesburg, + 9.07.1997 Pretoria) en Phoebe VIVIER (*19.04.1917 +24.11.1999) sv Roelopf Petrus WALTERS (*24.06.1880 Vredenburg + 10.3.1959 Belville) en Anna Hiletjie LOUW (*7.02.1883 Moreesburg + 6.3.1964 Kaapstad) x Wilhelm Peter Julius SCMIDT (*15.9.1946) 1. Heidi SCHMIDT (*10.11.1975 Pretoria)X Bernardt Chomse NEL 2. Liesl SCHMIDT (*7.3.1979)
Groete Leoni
Boodskap 7a. Oud President VAN NIEKERK, VERWEY EN GREEFF. Posted by: "Francois Greeff" [email protected] Fri Jan 4, 2008 6:01 am (PST)
Ha! Lucas, jy kan sommer by die Greeff Kuiernet (ons epos lys) ook aansluit. Jy is, blyk dit, ook een van ons! Sien onderstaande brief, die gevolg daarvan dat ek jou brief aan Dennis op ons kuiernet geplaas het. Hierdie goed is eSAGI se kos - die skakels tussen groot families!
Jou neef, Francois Greeff http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GREEFF/
------From: "Johan Greeff"
> Geagte Lukas, > > Ek kon amper nie glo wat ek in jou brief lees nie ! My Moeder was Minnie Greeff ('n nooi Verwey !) en haar Vader, my Oupa, was ene Daniel Verwey wat getroud was met 'n nooi Van Niekerk ---- so my Ouma aan moederskant was 'n Van Niekerk ! > > Al die Greeffs weet dat die Van Niekerks 'n sterk deel geword het van ons Lichtenburg familie deur die troue van Kowie Greeff (dogter van Gabriel Johannes Greeff, my Oupa) met Louis van Niekerk, en dat hulle vyf kinders gehad het --- Fanie, Jannie, Rene, Annette en Elouie. Jannie se seun Louie skryf dikwels baie interessante briefe in die Greeff webwerf, en help met die Genealogiese sake. > > Maar nou kom daar 'n ander baie interressante Van Niekerk storie by ! Volgens jou brief, Lukas, het jou Van Niekerk voorouer op die plaas Kromellenboog op die walle van die Vaalrivier geboer. (Die kaart van die omgewing wys dat KROMELLENBOOG 320 ongeveer 12 kilometer oos van Christiana lê. Reg langsaan hierdie plaas lê die plaas UITSPANNING 319 ongeveer 13 kilometer oos van Christiana, waarop die spoorwegstasie Kromellenboog geleê is, en reg langsaan Uitspanning lê die plaas WITGATBOOM 317 ongeveer 14 kilometer uit Christiana. Hierdie plaas is my moeder Minnie (Verwey) Greeff se geboorteplaas, waar sy grootgeword het, en soos ek verstaan, het dit ook deel uitgemaak van die skenking wat gemaak is deur dieselfde Massouw aan my Oupa Grootjie, Daniel Petrus Verwey, wat deel gevorm het van die groep "volunteers" wat, soos ek nou verstaan, saam met Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK vir Massouw gehelp het teen Mankoroane. (Was dit nie 'n Koranna Stam nie?) > > Die groot plaas Witgatboom is later opgedeel in baie kleiner dele, en my Moeder is op die deel genoem POLLIE MAREE gebore en het daar grootgeword. > > HIER VOLG DIE GENEALOGIE VAN DIE VERWEYS, wat uitkom by die Greeffs toe my Vader en Moeder getrou het ...... ** ! > > a. Gysbert Verwey + Catharina (Ganzevanger) Milligen, Nederland.arrived in SA before1668 > > with three children: b1 Beatrix (born in Woerden) who married Hendrik Olivier; b2 Alida > > (born in Woerden) who married Ockert Olivier and b3 Dirk Verwey (born in Polanen, Nederland) > > b3. Dirk Verwey + Geertjie Vissers (marr. 26.12.1694) Children: c1 Catherina; c2 Maria; c3 Gysbert > > c3. Gysbert Verwey + Maria van Eck (married 02.04.1724)...Children: d1 Elisabeth; d2 Dirk; > > d3 Cornelis; > d4 Johannes; d5 Tobias (died as a young child); > > d6 Gysbert (born 24.10.1734); d7 Gesina (died as a young child); > > d8 Gesina Maria; > d9 Tobias ; d10 Daniel. > > d6. Gysbert Verwey (b 24.10.1734) + Hermina Booysen (married 22.09.1765)...... > > Children: e1 Maria; e2 Gerhardus; e3 Johanna Elisabeth; > > e4 Gesina Christina; e5 Gysbertus; e6 Cornelis Johannes. > > e6. Cornelis Johannes (b. 08.01.1775) + Johanna Maria Olwagen (married 03.12.1795)..... > > Children: f1 Maria Magdalena ; f2 Daniel Cornelis. > > f2. Daniel Cornelis (b. 07.10.1798) + Johanna Gesina Smith (married in Tulbach 06.05.1821) .. > > Children: Daniel > Petrus . > > g1. Daniel Petrus (b. ± 1825) + Susara Susanna van Niekerk (married ± 1850 in Worcester) ... ******** > > Children: h1 Cornelis Johannes; h2 Daniel Petrus; h3 Jacob Wynand. > > h2. Jacob Wynand Verwey ( b. ± 1860) + (My grandmother, van Niekerk ? - married at Christiana ) ..******** > > (Grandfather of * - ) Children: i1 Johanna Susara ("Jo"); i2 , i3 , > > i4 Allie, i5 Dollie, i6 Wilhelmina Alexandra (Minnie); i7 Pat, i8 Jacob Wynand ("Jock"), > > i9 Susan, i9 Ben. > > i8. Jacob Wynand Verwey ( b. 1909 ?) + Chrissie (married ± ).. > > Children: j1 * Vivienne ( b. 19 ); j2 * Bobby (b. 19 ) > > ( * Vivienne is married to the world famous golfer, Gary Player .) > > i6 ** Wilhelmina Alexandra ( b. 07.09.1905) + Gabriel Jan Smuts Greeff (b. 05.02.1906) married > > in Johannesburg in February 1935. Children: j1. * Gabriel Johannes Greeff (b. 16.11.1942) > > j2. * Willex Daniel Greeff ( b. 01.06.1945.) > > j1 * - Gabriel Johannes Greeff (b.16.11.1942) + Gayle Vivien Gunn (married 30.12.1966) ...... > I > I > Dit is waar ek inpas. > > Nou wonder ek maar net of my Ouma Grootjie of my Ouma (way albei Van Niekerk's was en getroud was met my Oupa Grootjie Daniel Petrus of my Oupa Jacob Wynand Verwey, nie moontlik nasate was van hierdie Van Niekerk van Kromellenboog nie ?!!! > > INTERRESSANT NÉ ! > > Groetnis, > > Johan Greeff > ______> Johan Greeff [email protected] > National Director, ICEJ ( RSA Branch) > 3 Transvalia Avenue, Stellenbosch 7600. > Phone and Fax number : +27 021 883 3301 > NEW E-Mail FAX : +27 086 5177 516 > > G. J. Greeff (Ph.D. Geology) Pr. Sci. Nat. > DAYIMANZI CONSULTANTS (Pty) Ltd. > (Borehole site localization for groundwater). > Mobile Phone Number: + 27 082 658 2075
Boodskap 7b. Re: Oud President VAN NIEKERK, VERWEY EN GREEFF. Posted by: "Lucas Rinken" [email protected] rinkenlg Fri Jan 4, 2008 2:19 pm (PST)
Naand Francois,
Dankie vir die uitnodiging. Ek sal baie graag ook by julle e-pos lys aansluit maar as ek probeer gaan na die skakel wat jy gestuur het, kry ek "READ ERROR The requested URL could not be retrieved"
Wat doen ek verkeerd en hoe sluit ek by julle poslys aan?
Wens ek kon kontak maak met 'n van Niekerk kenner. Daar is nou so baie interesante verwikkelings. Beide Gary PLAYER se ma en sy oumagrootjie was van Niekerks! Kry wel sy oumagrootjie maar nie sy ma nie.
En die van Niekerk moeders wat met die VERWEYs getroud was kry ek ook nie!
Ja, die skakels tussen groot families is beslis waarin ons belangstel. En enige hulp daarmee word ALTYD hoog op prys gestel!
Vriendelike groete,
Lucas
Boodskap 8a. Re: Vir Rassie - Hugenotebloed in ons are. Posted by: "Anne Rust" [email protected] anne.rust Fri Jan 4, 2008 7:33 am (PST)
Baie dankie Rassie,
Ek wil graag weet of daar dalk inligting is oor die volgende vanne:
Rust Schmidt Van der Linden, en Gerber
Ek wil nie graag die boek koop as daar nie genoeg inligting is nie.
Nogmaals baie dankie,
Anne
Boodskap 8b. Re: Vir Anne - Hugenotebloed in ons are. Posted by: "Sylvester Rascher" [email protected] sylvesterrascher Fri Jan 4, 2008 1:18 pm (PST)
Hi Anne,
Ongelukkig kom nie een van die vanne wat jy noem, in die boek van le Roux voor nie.
Rassie
Boodskap 9. Esterhuyse Willem Johannes Posted by: "Louis Olivier" [email protected] Fri Jan 4, 2008 8:37 am (PST)
'n Goei naand aan almal
Ek is opsoek na meer inligting ten opsigte van Willem Johannes Esterhuyse.Die seun van Jan Stefanus Esterhuyse en Maria Isabella Esterhuyse nee Diederiks.Ek vermoed dat hy moontlik met 'n Harriet Garisch (TAB 68624) getroud was.Ek kry geen inligting van hom op enige van die argiefblaaie.Indien iemand dalk moontlik oor sy sterfdatum en plek asook sy geboortedatum beskik sal ek dit waardeer.
Louis Linda & Louis Olivier Pretoria 0128031028 [email protected] [email protected] Olivier, Coetzee, Swart, du Plooy
Boodskap 11a. Re: TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg Posted by: "Willeen Olivier" [email protected] willempie5 Fri Jan 4, 2008 10:42 am (PST)
Andre,
Ek het die boek nou al 'n rukkie terug gelees, so ek onthou nie mooi nie - dis ook meer persoonlike herinderinge as geskiedenis, wat dinge moeilik maak, maar as ek reg onthou het Malan by van Rensburg oorgeneem. Ek het net weer die laaste paar bladsye gelees, en daar sê hy dat die TVK die laaste geveg sonder hom beleef het omdat hy so swaar gewond was en in 'n Engelse hospitaal gelê het. Daar was ook ten minste twee groepe van die TVK, hy verwys so elke nou en dan na ander komandante, maar so asof almal moet weet wie en wat hulle is - en my kennis van daai deel van die oorlog is maar skraps om die minste te sê.
Ek sal weer 'n bietjie lees met geskiedenis in gedagte, en terugkom na jou toe :-)
Willeen Willeen Olivier Rooihuiskraal Kotzé, van Wyk, Olivier, Bosman, en al hulle voorgeslagte ...
Boodskap 12. Kanonne Posted by: "Hetta Scholtz" [email protected] hester_scholtz Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:49 am (PST)
Lyslede,
Fotos van geskiedkundige kanonne is op Fotki by http://public.fotki.com/SAgenealogie/kanonne/ Jammer, Grietjie is nie baie duidelik nie.
Groete Hetta Scholtz, Rooihuiskraal
Boodskap 13. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 04 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Fri Jan 4, 2008 12:33 pm (PST)
Sterfgevalle WELCOME, Dennis. +30 Desember 2007 om 12:00. Vrou, twee dogters, susters, broers, skoonma, swaer, skoonsusters.Begrafnis Saterdag 05 Jan 2008 10:00 Proreastr 16, Stasieheuwel, Port Alfred en 12:00 by die stadsaal. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 04/01/2008)
In Memoriam GOUWS, Ben & Fien. Ma op 19/12/1991 & Pa op 04/01/1992. Seun Ben, Toekie, kinders, kleinkinders. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 04/01/2008)
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 14. Greef en Lichtenburg en Twycross Posted by: "Dennis Laptop" [email protected] dennis_pretorius Fri Jan 4, 2008 12:55 pm (PST)
Hallo Francois en ander van die Lichtenburg-stam
Ek het reeds jare gelede navraag begin doen oor 'n pleknaam wat op 'n "Multi-Map" landkaart aangetoon word as Twycross - maar niemand weet daarvan nie. Die "plek" is gelee ongeveer 25 km vanaf Lichtenburg op die pad na Biesiesvlei.
Iemand van "Die Stam" het belowe om navraag te doen maar ek kry nie terugvoering van hulle nie
Ek gaan nou-nou die kaart oplaai op die leer-gedeelte van ons Yahoo-webwerf onder die naam Twycross. As enigeen van jou "kuier-gaste" op die Greef-lys kan help sal ek dit baie waardeer.
Groetnis
Dennis Pretorius, Krugersdorp, South Africa/Suid Afrika Executive Member of GSSA / Uitvoerende Lid van GGSA Genealogical Researcher/Genealogiese Navorser Owner of SAGenealogy E-mail list/Lyseienaar - SAGenealogie poslys E-Mail/E-pos: [email protected] Web address/Webadres: http://mzone.mweb.co.za/residents/k75/genealogy.html Telephone/Telefoon: +27-83-679-8541 Fax/Faks +27-86-609-8541
Boodskap 15.1. New file uploaded to SAGenealogie Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Fri Jan 4, 2008 1:02 pm (PST)
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Boodskap 16. Re: Oud President VAN NIEKERK, VERWEY EN die GREEFF eposlys. Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:25 pm (PST)
Dag Lucas,
Ek gaan aflyn as ek niks te sê het wat ander mag interresseer nie. Hierdie gesprek, en skakels, mag vir ander dalk iets werd wees, so ek bly aanlyn.
Jy soek 'n van Niekerk kenner. Die naaste wat ek daaraan het is Jan Greeff, kenner van die Lichtenburg Stam. DWS, alle afstammelinge van Hendrik Adriaan Greeff, stigter van Lichtenburg. Alle afstammelinge, in beide manlike en vroulike lyne, ongeag van wat hulle vanne is. Die vanne in die Lichtenburg Stam sluit van Niekerk in, en Jan ken hulle. Hy praat met hulle, want hy bel hulle en skryf vir hulle.
Jy en Jan Greeff is die enigtste mense wat ek van weet wat geslagsonbevooroordeelde genealogiese navorsing doen. Ek is trots om julle twee te ken! Julle is pioniers van die toekoms van genealogie.
Mooilees oor moles: Om by ons Greeff kuiernet (ons epos netwerk) aan te sluit, stuur asseblief 'n epos aan [email protected], met net die enkele woord, subscribe, as onderwerp en as inhoud. Dan sal jy 'n epos terug kry wat jou aanraai om jou epos briewe aan die lys te pos, en vir jou die epos adres van die lys sal gee. Die brief wat jy terug kry sal jou ook inlig dat jy slegs aan ons kuiernet kan skryf MITS jy afstand doen op die kopiereg op jou briewe aan ons kuiernet, sodat ander navorsers jou briewe sonder toestemming in opvolgwerk mag gebruik (maar nie sonder erkenning nie). Die subscibe adres is anders as die korrespondensie adres want die masjien verwerk subskripsies, bedankings en inkomende ledepos (en verwerp spam) sonder menslike hulp (iets waarvoor ek baie dankbaar is!). Dit is ook belangrik om te besef dat die masjien nie vir jou 'n lyslid maak nie, maar jou eposadres word 'n lyslid. Die gevolg is dat jy self NIE met 'n ander eposadres aan die lys kan skryf nie, maar ander mense (bv. jou minnaaresse wat jou password het) kan met jou eposadres aan die lys skryf.
As jy en Jan op die Greeff kuiernet met mekaar gesels, sal Johan Greeff (wat ook iets weet) ook julle briewe saam met die res van ons geniet.
Groete, Francois Greeff ______Om by ons Greeff kuiernet ('n epos netwerk) aan te sluit, stuur asseblief 'n epos aan [email protected], met net die enkele woord, subscribe, as onderwerp en as inhoud.
Greeff Familie Webblad: www.Greeff.info
36 Aston Road London SW20 8BE United Kingdom of Great Britain
0044 20 8543 6966 (Home) or 020 8543 6966 0044 79 6372 2345 (Mobile) or 079 6372 2345 Skype: Greefffrancois
Boodskap 17. BMD's and Estates advertised in local newspapers. Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Fri Jan 4, 2008 5:28 pm (PST)
Dag Fanie en almal,
Ek poog om te help om inligting vir navorsers beskikbaar te maak, maar net in 'n formaat wat sinvol is.
Dit is as gevolg van die afsonderlike lyste van "BMD's and Estates advertised in local newspapers" by www.e-family.co.za en elders dat ek aan Fanie geskryf het. Sy vier maande se werk is net vier lêers van 'n hele klomp wat ek elkeen afsonderlik moet oopmaak, en elk afsonderlik moet deur soek. Dit sal my vir ewig vat, dus doen ek dit nie, en die 'versamelde' werke is nutteloos. Die koerant gee reeds vir my al die inligting wat julle my gee, MAAR OP MEER WYD VERSPREIDE PLEKKE AS JULLE VERSAMELING VAN PLEKKE. Kom ons kyk of ons al daardie "BMD's and Estates advertised in local newspapers" in EEN ENKELE STELSEL kan kry, sodat navorsers nie een dokument na die ander, per hand, moet oop maak nie, en sodat die rekenaar (en Google) dit outomaties kan deursoek.
Onthou dat al julle "BMD's and Estates advertised in local newspapers" reeds TEN MINSTE DRIE KEER op die internet verskyn:
1. Versprei in die koerante se internet argiewe 2. Versprei op verskeie eposlyste (meervoud) se internet argiewe (op SA Genealogie se eposlys en op Rootsweb South Africa se eposlys argiewe, en ook op rootsweb Buitenposte se argiewe) 3. Versprei op www.e-family.co.za se internet argiewe. 4. Waar nog?
Ten spyte daarvan dat die inligting reeds ten minste drie keer op die internet is, is dit steeds vir genealoë amper totaal onbruikbaar.
Maak ek darem vir jou sin?
Die vereistes van 'n nuwe stelsel is dat:
1. Alles moet in een lêer wees (The Argus, Die Beeld, The Natal Mercury, The Star, The Times, Die Burger, Die Lot) 2. 'n Indeks moet beskikbaar wees 3. Copy and paste moet moontlik wees 4. Dit moet MAKLIK elektronies soekbaar wees. 5. Toevoeging tot en opdatering tot die databasis moet altyd moontlik wees. 6. Dit moet maklik en vinnig oordraagbaar wees na 'n gedcom toe (beide in grootmaat en elke inskrywing afsonderlik), want die Gedcom is die internasionale standaard vir die oordrag van genealogiese inligting. ALLE genealogiese inligting is, vir die verbruikers daarvan, uitendelik vir gedcom formaat bestem. 7. Groei moet moontlik wees (bv koerante in Lesotho, Swaziland, Namibië, VSA, Engeland, Rusland, Griekeland, Japan, Sjina, ens. Sien webblaaie vir grafte, vir 'n voorbeeld.)
LET WEL: Alles wat jy per hand van die koerant na Word oorgetik het, moet weer deur die verbruiker, per hand, oorgetik word na sy stamboom, wat in gedcom formaat is. Ek wil stuipe kry wanneer ek besef dat ELKE ENKELE MENS wat die inligting gebruik die selfde inligting weer, per hand, moet oor tik. Een mens na die ander, weer en weer en weer. Tot in ewigheid, of tot 'n sinvolle formaat in gebruik geneem word.
Die webblad by is ook vir my baie frustrerend want niemand kan vir 'n ander 'n skakel stuur van die webblad waarna ons verwys nie. Al die blaaie op die webwerf vertoon die selfde adres - die tuisblad adres.
Ek stel voor dat ons die gesprek, en die soektog na 'n sinvolle oplossing, by [email protected] voort sit sodat ader mense ook kan help.
My siening is dat almal wat "BMD's and Estates advertised in local newspapers" per hand oortik 'n bietjie moet bymekaar kom en 'n eie webblad stig (dit is maklik en goedkoop, ek sal help). Dan kan julle die voordeel van 'n onsterflike identiteit geniet, en julle werk sal na julle dood voortleef. Bydraers (met 'n r) tot so 'n blad kan kom en gaan, sonder dat bydraes (sonder r) verloor word. Die grootste voordeel sal wees dat julle dan almal saam in een rigting sal roei, in plaas van teen mekaar.
As julle wil sien wat moontik vermag kan word wanneer baie mense almal in een formaat werk, koop die eSAGI databasis by die Wes Gauteng tak van GGSA (kontak Lucas Rinken 011/760-3009. [email protected]). Julle monde sal oophang.
Groete, Francois Greeff ______Om by ons Greeff kuiernet ('n epos netwerk) aan te sluit, stuur asseblief 'n epos aan [email protected], met net die enkele woord, subscribe, as onderwerp en as inhoud.
Greeff Familie Webblad: www.Greeff.info
36 Aston Road London SW20 8BE United Kingdom of Great Britain
0044 20 8543 6966 (Home) or 020 8543 6966 0044 79 6372 2345 (Mobile) or 079 6372 2345 Skype: Greefffrancois Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3043
Datum: Fri Jan 4, 2008
Daar is 6 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: de Villiers hulp benodig asb From: Richard Y Ford
2. [Koerant] The Mercury Vrydag 4 Jan 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
3. [Koerant] The Mercury Vrydag 5 Jan. 2008 CREDITORS.... From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
4a. VAN NIEKERK From: Hetta Scholtz
5. (Koerant) Beeld 05 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
6a. Vir Berna- Steeds Adriana (oba Ariana) From: Simon du Plooy Boodskap 1a. Re: de Villiers hulp benodig asb Posted by: "Richard Y Ford" [email protected] fennsoak28 Fri Jan 4, 2008 7:43 pm (PST)
Hallo Karin...
Luidens die Geslagregister van die Familie De Villiers in Suid-Afrika van Juna Malherbe en Alet Malan soek jy inligting van Jurie Johannes Lourens DE VILLIERS. Die inskrywing in die boek gee slegs sy besonderhede as * 27.12.1929 = Pietermaritzburg 20.4.1930.
Nietemin is sy familienommer a1b3c1d6e9f3g3h1i1. Sy vader (h1) was Jan Gabriel * 10.1.1905 = Wakkerstroom 23.4.1905, tronkbewaarder, x Lichtenburg 2.4.1929 Jacoba Johanna KORSTEN * 14.12.1913 geskei 25.5.1932 xx Harrismith 17.6.1939 Maria Cornelia DE JAGER * 31.3.1906 + 1.10.1942 xxx Petronella Johanna LINDEQUE * 30.8.1905 + 9.9.1955 xxxx 4.8.1956 Hendricka Wilhelmina STRYDOM * 30.5.1899, weduwee Van Zyl voorheen weduwee Burmeister.
Groetnis...
Richard Y Ford PO Box 794 Randpark Ridge 2156 Tel 011-791-5058 Fax 086-515-8128 Cell 073-250-6208
Boodskap 2. [Koerant] The Mercury Vrydag 4 Jan 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Fri Jan 4, 2008 9:51 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:- "Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean that they are not out to get you. " ANON.
GEBOORTES:-BALMER nee CHENNELLS Duncan & Claire 'n dogter Annabelle Meg * 2/01/2008.
MCKEOWN nee LOGIN Darroll & Jacquie 'n seun Conor Robert Lee * 03/01/2008 in Kingston London. Kleinkind vir Lee, Cyndy ,Bob en Pat.
MOODIE nee ZIMMERMAN Michael & Kirsti 'n seun Matt Rohan * 26/12/2007 in Parklands.
PIETERS ~ LAUDERDALE Crryn & Brent 'n dogter Shiloh Mai * 03/01/2008 in Sunninhill Hospitaal JHB. Sussie vir Taro. Kleinkind vir Maureen & Gordon .
SCHWEGMANN nee WAYT David & Karlene gee bekend geboorte van Cameron David en Hannah Erica * 28/12/2007 in Westville Hospitaal. Boetie en sussie vir Tayla en Jenna.
VERLOWING:- BENGSCH Fredy & Christine van Sandton se jongste dogter Kirsten aan Iain Campbell , enigste seun van Andrew & Judy EWING van Hillcrest Natal.
D'ALTON ~FREEMANTLE Sean & Brenda.
PETERS-NEWMAN Tyron & MUNZ Jaquie is verloof. Ingesit deur Avril & Gary, Shane & Felicity.
TAYLOR Angela & Graham se dogter Marie-Claire aan Paul, seun van Barbara & + John EVANS.
HERDENKING:- BANKS Dennis & Lesley x 04/01/1958. Liefde van Lynette, Mark, Greig en Lauren ; Norman, Di, Ryan en Lara ; Kevin, Jane, Jarrod, Brett ; Colin, Fiona,Amy en Cameron.
DOOD:-ANDERSON Gayle x Errol. Ma van Bernard, Ivan, Tracey. Skoonma van Maureen, Riette, Jacques. Ouma van Nikita, Kelly ,Shereen ,Jessie, Angelique, Vaugh en Brandon.
CHIVERS Jack + 03/01/2008 x Barbara. Pa van Debbie, Phil, Rob en Richard. Oupa van Lauren, Michelle, Chelsea, Brooke ,Matt, Michaela, Daniel en Horley. Verassing Privaat. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
FERREIRA IG + 25/12/2007 in JHB. Dankie vir 40 vriendskap. Van Marhie, Micky en Zan.
FOXON Iain + 30/12/2007 (tragies) . Simpatie aan Ashley, Charles en Rebecca. Van Kietho, Robo, Christo en familie.
GRAY Barbara . Ouma van Erica, Frank , Suzie en Noo-Noo.
GUY Robin van Underberg , 75 jaar oud, + 2/01/2008 in Bryanston Johannesburg aan skietwond. Pa van joernalis Duncan GUY.( Voëlkenner.) Geskei van Trish BEAVER .
GRIMSTER Frederick Charles 12/09/1920 ----01/01/2008 . Pa van Cilla & Rodney MAUD. Begrafnis by Kloof Methodiste Kerk op 04/01/2008 om 2nm. Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH 0312059959.
HADDRELL HARRISON Dr. Derek + 30 /12/2007 ( 93 jaar) x Babette. Pa van Gavin, Sean, Ian en Christopher. Skoonpa van Kim, Caroline en Michelle. Oupa van Kelly, Murray, Alex, Julia en Nicholas . Memorial by DOVES Greyville Durban 4/01/2008 om 1400 uur.
HALL Susanna Catharina . Begrafnis by DOVES Greyville 5/01/2008 om 11 vm. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
HEAN Kenneth Drake + 2/01/2008 . Gemis deur Kevin HEAN. Ingesit deur SHANLEY'S 031 2057644.
MANN Harold x Thelma. Pa van Shirley en Merylene. Oupa van Nicci & Andrew en 5 agterkleinkinders. Verassing privaat.
McMASTER Maureen Grace x + Vincent . Ma van Vivienne . Ouma van Graham en Caitlin. Memorial by Pineville Junction Kapel Pinetown op 8/01/2008 om 10 vm. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
MORRISON William George (Willie) x + Mary. Pa van Maureen. Grafdiens by Ashley Begraafplaas op 7/01/2008 om 11 vm.Ingesit deur SHANLEY'S 0312057644.
MUIR Kay + 29/12/2007. Ma van Anne x Glan .Ouma van Bradley en Abbey. Ingesit deur SHANLEY'S 0312057644.
MULDER nee CULLEN Isabella (Bella) + 01/01/2008 x Jack . Ma van Clinton, Candice, Tyran en Luke . Dogter van Bea CULLEN. Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH 0312059959.
OWENS Brian + 31/12/2007 . Pa van Dan en Mike.
RADFORD Angela . Vriendin van Merilyn.
SWAN Nelson (Digger) 13/08/1940 --31/12/2007 x Colleen. Pa van Carol, Brenda, Brad en Murray. Skoonpa van John, Malcolm , Michelle en Tina. Oupa van Damian, Camilla, Paige, Skye, Luke, Kelsey, Chase en Becky.
TARIN OLLY . + 29/12/2007. Pa , skoonpa en oupa .
TREWIN Peggy + 03/01/2008 . Ouderdom 91 jaar, by Ridgewood Care Centre. Ma van Bev en Candy .Ouma van Carl, Lisa, Brandon en Alison. Oumagroot van Emma en Kayla. Verassing privaat.
WADE David George + 01/01/2008. Memorial by Living Rivers Family Church Kelso 5/01/2008 om 3nm. TEL:- 0833070028.
WALKER Kathy . Simpatie aan Garth, Joyce en familie. Van vriende by EHO KZN.
WESSELINK Iris + 02/01/2008 Ma van Athol & Michelle. Ouma van Adam, Anna en Alex.
WRIGHT nee ANDERSON Louise + 01/01/2008 van Wentworth .Lewensmaat van Ivan. Ma, skoonma en ouma van Marlone, Portia. Ouma van Chanlynn, Tailynn en Madison.Ook ma van Llewellyn. Begrafnis by Interfellowship Church Wentworth op 05/01/2008 om 11.30 vm. Daarna na Dudley Str Begraafplaas.
MEMORIAM:- BINDER Justin . Onthou deur Lauren. Oupa en ouma, Gary, Debs, Trace en Brends. Ma en pa , Kerry, en Rory.
WOLFSON Grace + 04/01/2007 .Ma en ouma van Dave, Shellee, Nicci, Murray en Luke.
Gegroet uit NAT en warm Durban . Rita quebbemann.
Boodskap 3. [Koerant] The Mercury Vrydag 5 Jan. 2008 CREDITORS.... Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Fri Jan 4, 2008 9:51 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
THE BOTTOM LINE:- " To deal with the incorrigible punster; just don't incorrige him ." - Van John PENN.
CREDITORS /DEBTORS:-
TE BRUGGE Edward John ID 2408095002088 + 24/09/2007 x Valerie Jean ID 2402270050087 van Cottage 71, 28 Afrikaner Str., Vryheid 3100. ESTATE Nr 16567/2007/PMB. STANDARD EXECUTORS & TRUSTEES Ltd P.O.BOX 13961 Cascades.
MORRISON Mary Elizabeth ID 2202070053087 + 17/06/2005 van 7 Cleevewood Park, 3 Camp Rd Gillitts. ESTATE nr 13247/2005/Pmb. BEDER - FRIEDLAND INC Oxford Chambers 95 Oxford Rd Saxonworld JHB. 2126.
STRACHAN Shirley Lynette ID 3207310041080 + 18/09/2007 van 215 A Garden Grove, 211 St Thomas Rd Durban. ESTATE Nr. 14325/2007. GARLICKE & BOUSFIELD P.O.Box 1219 Umhlanga Rocks. 4320.
FIRST / FINAL :-
HORNE Allan William ID 1710265037088 van Outspan Retirement Centre, 24 Umbilo Rd. ESTATE Nr. 11377/2006 . SMITH TABATA BUCHANAN BOYS . Ground Floor , Glenrand MIB Building ,4 Sinembe Park Sinembe Crescent La Lucia Ridge Durban.
MCCLELLAN Colin + 19/05/2007 ID 1412245055187 van 106 Summerhill Lodge, 140 Williamson Str Scottburgh. ESTATE Nr 8575/2007 .FNB TRUST Services, PO.Box 212 ,Westville.
DE WET Jan George Mauritz ID 5411115167086 + 06/06/2006 van 6 Jackson Rd Pinetown. ESTATE Nr 7396/2006 . CHAPMAN DYER INC. 10 de Vloer, 300 Smith Str Durban. 4001.
PENNINGTON Marie Yvette ID 1601230052082 + 17/01/2007 van 11 San Juan, 270 Cowey Rd Berea Durban . ESTATE nr 3576/2007/Dbn. AUDIE BOTHA & CO. 7de Vloer The Mercury House ,320 Smith Str Durban 4001.
BLACK Sandra ID 4909030161184 + ? van 90 Cresthole Drive, Crestholme Durban . ESTATE Nr 11296/2007. SANLAM TRUST P.O.Box 27428 ,Port Elizabeth.
BANNOCK Ester Margaret ID 1203150042082 van 77 Mangosuthu Rd Eshowe. ESTATE Nr 1241/2007 Dbn. HILLS HOWARD & ASSOC.(Pty) Ltd. PER MR ID WORSNIP, P.O.Box 1861 Empangeni 3880.
SMITH Thomas William ID 2308255004082 van 5 Coghill Ave , Kloof. ESTATE Nr 827/2006(PMB) . Soos Bo.
Gegroet uit nat en reenerige Durban Rita QUEBEMANN
Boodskap 4a. VAN NIEKERK Posted by: "Hetta Scholtz" [email protected] hester_scholtz Fri Jan 4, 2008 10:07 pm (PST)
Hallo Lucas
Probeer Deborah Laing ([email protected]) kontak. Sy het al die van Niekerk- inligting wat sy kon kry probeer sinvol rangskik. Ek waarsku jou net. Die van Niekerks is baie deurmekaar en hulle raak so weg. Ek is ook op soek na my oupagrootjie, was 'n neef van my oumagrootjie, maar sy ouers bly 'n raaisel.
Sterkte, en laat weet my asb as jy 'n Adam Adriaan kry wat met Catharina Elizabeth ( gebore 21 Jan 1851, oorlede 18 Julie 1938) getorud was
Groete Hetta Scholtz, Rooihuiskraal
Boodskap 5. (Koerant) Beeld 05 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Fri Jan 4, 2008 10:22 pm (PST)
KHOURIE; Stella (62) + 01/01/2008. Sal onthou word deur haar man, kinders en kleinkinders. (Beeld - 05/01/2008)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 6a. Vir Berna- Steeds Adriana (oba Ariana) Posted by: "Simon du Plooy" [email protected] sjdp1951 Fri Jan 4, 2008 10:52 pm (PST)
Cornel- Dankie vir die reaksie (nou kan Berna uit haar bewusteloosheid ontwaak!)
Weereens was die lys instrumenteel in 'n klein maar belangrike regstelling.
Groetnis.
Simon.
Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3044
Datum: Sat Jan 5, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Geboortes, huwelikke en sterftes in koerante From: Elmien Wood
1b. Re: Geboortes, huwelikke en sterftes in koerante From: Dik groenhuizen
1c. Re: Geboortes, huwelikke en sterftes in koerante From: [email protected]
1d. Re: Geboortes, huwelikke en sterftes in koerante From: [email protected]
1e. Re: Geboortes, huwelikke en sterftes in koerante From: Dik groenhuizen
2a. Re: Kwartierstaat van Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, gebore 6 Jule 1849 From: Cornel Viljoen
2b. Re: ( Reminder for Burger History going back to Brendt Burchultz 16 From: David Jamieson
3a. Re: Vir Berna- Steeds Adriana (oba Ariana) From: Johan Vermeulen
3b. Steeds Adriana (oba Ariana) From: Simon du Plooy
4a. Re: BURGER herkoms From: Paul Bosman
4b. Re: BURGER herkoms From: David Jamieson
5. Namibië - Boedels From: Paul Bosman
6a. Re: de Villiers hulp benodig asb From: Karin Serfontein
7a. Re: Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, President van die Republiek van Stel From: Janet Melville
7b. Re: Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, President van die Republiek van Stel From: Daniel Jacobs
7c. Re: Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, President van die Republiek van Stel From: Lucas Rinken
8. Re: [SA-Gen] Namibië - Boedels From: Isebelle Krauss
9a. KLEYNHANS/DE BRUIN/DELPORTSHOOP From: Daniel Jacobs
9b. Re: KLEYNHANS/DE BRUIN/DELPORTSHOOP From: Karin Serfontein
10a. Terug!!! From: Ann Tiran
11a. Re: FOTO BRIXTON BEGRAFPLAAS From: Ann Tiran
12a. Re: TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg From: Willeen Olivier
12b. Re: TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg From: sastamouers
13a. CALITZDORP LIDMAATREGISTER 1873 - 1914 From: alta le roux
13b. Re: CALITZDORP LIDMAATREGISTER 1873 - 1914 From: [email protected] Boodskap 1a. Geboortes, huwelikke en sterftes in koerante Posted by: "Elmien Wood" [email protected] Sat Jan 5, 2008 1:02 am (PST)
Francois
Volgens my is die elektroniese persoonlikke berigte nie meer beskikbaar op die verskillende koerante se webbladsye nie. Indien dit is sou ek baie graag daarvan wou weet.
Ek stem saam dat dit 'n groot verbetering sou wees indien dit moontlik is om al e-family se berigte (van byvoorbeeld sterftes gepubliseer in die Burger) op een stelsel gevind sou kon word.
Groete Elmien
Boodskap 1b. Re: Geboortes, huwelikke en sterftes in koerante Posted by: "Dik groenhuizen" [email protected] dikgroenhuizen Sat Jan 5, 2008 3:37 am (PST)
Elemien kijk eens bij: http://groups.msn.com/Exintus-Persona daar staan o.a. Burger, Die Beeld, Mercury ook bij.
Jullie mogen deze berichten zelf ook plaatsen. Als er iemand die berichten wil plaatsen uit een andere krant, doe even een berichtje naar mij dan maak ik een nieuwe pagina voor die krant.
Je moet je eerst inschrijven, net als bij SAG voordat e een bericht kunt plaatsen. groeten Dik Groenhuizen uit Beekbergen / Nederland http://groups.msn.com/Genealogen-Palace http://groups.msn.com/Oude-Kerkboeken/homepage http://groups.msn.com/Beekbergene-o--Toen-en-Nu
Boodskap 1c. Re: Geboortes, huwelikke en sterftes in koerante Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Sat Jan 5, 2008 7:57 am (PST)
Kom ons maak twee lyste, asseblief, sodat ons rigting kry en doele kan stel. Voorlopig is die doel van hierdie debat om die spelers op een veld saam te bring en om 'n webblad te stig waarop hulle almal, met een stel reels, kan saam speel. Dus:
1. Wie is die spelers in hierdie spel? Vier kolomme (voorlopig) Naam; Vermelder van naam; vakgebied; Koerant. a. Francois Greeff; self, Webmaster; Geen koerant. b. Dik Groenhuizen; Francois Greeff; Weetnie; Weetnie c. Elmien Wood; Francois Greeff; Weetnie; Weetnie
Ek vra dat elke persoon homself by hierdie lys voeg, sodat ons dan elkeen te kenne gee dat ons betrokke wil wees.
2. Wat sal die naam van die webblad wees? Die naam van 'n webblad moet vir die internasionale verbruiker vertel wat die webblad doen. a. www.NewspaperBMD.info
Die hoofgesprek in hierdie debat is op SA genealogie, met uitnodiging (van tyd tot tyd) aan mense van ander epos lyste om ook deel te neem. Francois Greeff ______Om by ons Greeff kuiernet ('n epos netwerk) aan te sluit, stuur asseblief 'n epos aan [email protected], met net die enkele woord, subscribe, as onderwerp en as inhoud.
Greeff Familie Webblad: www.Greeff.info
36 Aston Road London SW20 8BE United Kingdom of Great Britain
0044 20 8543 6966 (Home) or 020 8543 6966 0044 79 6372 2345 (Mobile) or 079 6372 2345 Skype: Greefffrancois
Boodskap 1d. Re: Geboortes, huwelikke en sterftes in koerante Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Sat Jan 5, 2008 9:03 am (PST)
Jammer Elmien,
Dit is my fout - ek dog die HELE koerant is deesdae aanlyn in hulle argiewe.
Jy Skryf:
"Ek stem saam dat dit 'n groot verbetering sou wees indien dit moontlik is om al e-family se berigte (van byvoorbeeld sterftes gepubliseer in die Burger) op een stelsel gevind sou kon word."
Ek dink baie verder as net dit. Ek verbeel my 'n webblad met, sê maar, 'n Excel spreiblad. In hierdie spreiblad is daar een kolom vir die naam van die koerant. Dan is die Beeld en die Burger en die Star en almal op een plek. Een stelsel. Een doelgerigde webblad.
My kolomme sou wees: Koerant, datum, berig, Naam van oortikker.
Francois Greeff
Boodskap 1e. Re: Geboortes, huwelikke en sterftes in koerante Posted by: "Dik groenhuizen" [email protected] dikgroenhuizen Sat Jan 5, 2008 11:18 am (PST)
Hallo Francois en Elmien
Ik heb even heel snel iets gemaakt, is deze site een internationaal idee??
Er kunnen nog veel meer kranten bij geplaatst worden.
Het is maar een idee
Groeten Dik http://groups.msn.com/Exintus-Persona
Boodskap 2a. Re: Kwartierstaat van Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, gebore 6 Jule 1849 Posted by: "Cornel Viljoen" [email protected] cornel.viljoen Sat Jan 5, 2008 1:06 am (PST)
Goeie dag Lucas en mede lyslede,
Ek doen reeds baie jare lank navorsing oor die Van Niekerk families van die Vrystaat. Ek het my databasis nagegaan en deel met graagte die kwartierstaat van oud president Gerrit Jacobus Van Niekerk, gebore 6 Julie 1849.
Geliewe my te kontak indien enige persone nog verdere Van Niekerk inligting benodig rondom die Van Niekerks van die Vrystaat.
Groete uit n baie warm Melbourne, Cornel Viljoen
------Ancestors of Gert Jacobus VAN NIEKERK ------
First Generation
1. Gert Jacobus VAN NIEKERK, son of Johannes Anthonie VAN NIEKERK and Martha Maria VAN HEERDEN, was born on 6 Jul 1849, was christened on 21 Nov 1849 in Fauresmith, Free State, and died on 23 Oct 1896 in Pretoria, Transvaal at age 47.
Gert married Hester Cecilia ROOS.
The child from this marriage was: i. Martha Maria VAN NIEKERK was born on 9 Apr 1873 and died on 17 Sep 1953 at age 80.
Second Generation (Parents)
2. Johannes Anthonie VAN NIEKERK, son of Gerrit VAN NIEKERK and Maria Adriana TAS, was born on 30 Sep 1822 and was christened on 24 Nov 1822 in Graaff- Reinet, Cape Province.
Johannes married Martha Maria VAN HEERDEN on 18 Dec 1843 in Colesberg, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Gert Jacobus VAN NIEKERK ii. Maria Adriana VAN NIEKERK was born on 8 Sep 1851 and was christened on 24 Nov 1851 in Fauresmith, Free State.
Johannes next married Maria Catharina DU PLOOY on 22 May 1865 in Hopetown, Cape Province.
3. Martha Maria VAN HEERDEN, daughter of Schalk Willem VAN HEERDEN and Rachel Johanna Catharina ERASMUS, was born on 10 Apr 1828, was christened on 7 Jul 1828 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died in 1858 at age 30.
Martha married Johannes Anthonie VAN NIEKERK on 18 Dec 1843 in Colesberg, Cape Province.
Third Generation (Grandparents)
4. Gerrit VAN NIEKERK, son of Jan Albert VAN NIEKERK and Helena Elisabeth OBERHOLZER, was born in 1766 and was christened on 24 Aug 1766 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Gerrit married Maria Adriana TAS on 23 Mar 1794.
Children from this marriage were: i. Gerrit Jacobus VAN NIEKERK was born in 1795 and was christened on 24 May 1795 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. ii. Jan Albert VAN NIEKERK was born in 1801 and was christened on 8 Mar 1801 in Cape Town, Cape Province. iii. Adam Adriaan VAN NIEKERK was born in 1802, was christened on 14 Nov 1802, and died on 27 Jun 1871 in farm "Pienaarspoort", Fauresmith at age 69. iv. Gileam Michiel VAN NIEKERK was born on 8 Jan 1804 and was christened on 21 May 1804 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. v. Pieter Johannes VAN NIEKERK was born on 24 Nov 1807 and was christened on 27 Dec 1807 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. vi. Izaak David VAN NIEKERK was born on 27 Apr 1810 and was christened on 16 Sep 1810 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. vii. Jacoba Johanna VAN NIEKERK was born on 19 Jul 1812, was christened on 20 Sep 1812 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 13 Mar 1869 in farm "Holpan", Jacobsdal, Free State at age 56. viii. Helena Elisabeth VAN NIEKERK was born on 14 Aug 1813, was christened on 19 Nov 1813 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 9 Jan 1873 in farm "Broekpoort", Bethulie at age 59. ix. Maria Adriana VAN NIEKERK was born on 18 Feb 1815 and was christened on 19 Mar 1815 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. x. Frederik Christiaan VAN NIEKERK was born on 27 Aug 1817 and was christened on 12 Oct 1817 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. xi. Johannes Anthonie VAN NIEKERK
5. Maria Adriana TAS, daughter of Adam TAS and Jacoba WAGENAAR, was born in 1779 and was christened on 21 Feb 1779.
Maria married Gerrit VAN NIEKERK on 23 Mar 1794.
Maria next married Christoffel VILJOEN, son of Johannes Hendricus VILJOEN and Anna Francina JOUBERT, on 21 Dec 1833 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province.
6. Schalk Willem VAN HEERDEN, son of Carel Jacobus VAN HEERDEN and Martha BURGER, was born on 27 Feb 1801 and was christened on 1 Nov 1801 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Schalk married Rachel Johanna Catharina ERASMUS on 3 Nov 1822 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Aletta Elsie Elisabeth VAN HEERDEN was born on 11 Nov 1823 and was christened on 26 Dec 1823 in Tulbagh, Cape Province. ii. Martha Maria VAN HEERDEN iii. Francois Alewyn VAN HEERDEN was born on 20 Dec 1829 and was christened on 29 Jan 1830 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. iv. Schalk Willem VAN HEERDEN was born in 1834. v. Elsie Wilhelmina VAN HEERDEN was born circa 1836. vi. Petrus Paulus Jacobus VAN HEERDEN was born in 1837 and died in 1904 at age 67. vii. Rachel Johanna Catharina VAN HEERDEN was born circa 1840. viii. Jacoba VAN HEERDEN was born circa 1842. ix. Carolina VAN HEERDEN was born circa 1845. x. George Sebastiaan VAN HEERDEN was born circa 1847.
7. Rachel Johanna Catharina ERASMUS, daughter of Francois Alewyn Johannes ERASMUS and Aletta Elisabeth HUGO, was born on 31 Mar 1807, was christened on 28 Aug 1807 in Tulbagh, Cape Province, and died in 1860 in Hopetown, Cape Province at age 53.
Rachel married Schalk Willem VAN HEERDEN on 3 Nov 1822 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Rachel next married Roelof Erasmus VAN HEERDEN, son of Jacobus Willem Schalk VAN HEERDEN and Anna Catharina ESTERHUIZEN.
Fourth Generation (Great-Grandparents)
8. Jan Albert VAN NIEKERK, son of Gerrit VAN NIEKERK and Anna Dorothea BRONS, was born in 1732 and was christened on 28 Sep 1732.
Jan married Helena Elisabeth OBERHOLZER on 23 Jan 1763.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Anna Dorothea VAN NIEKERK was born in 1764 and was christened on 18 Mar 1764 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Guilliam VAN NIEKERK was born in 1765 and was christened on 14 Apr 1765 in Cape Town, Cape Province. iii. Gerrit VAN NIEKERK iv. Jan Albert VAN NIEKERK was born in 1768, was christened on 2 Oct 1768 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died before 1833. v. Johanna Margaretha VAN NIEKERK was born in 1771 and was christened on 3 Mar 1771. vi. Frederik VAN NIEKERK was born in 1772 in Caledon, Cape Province, was christened on 29 Nov 1772 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died on 5 Nov 1858 in farm "Kameelfontein", Boshof, Free State at age 86. vii. Helena Elisabeth VAN NIEKERK was born in 1775 and was christened on 1 Jan 1775. viii. Jan Anthonie VAN NIEKERK was born in 1777 and was christened on 11 May 1777. ix. Cornelius Gregorius VAN NIEKERK was born on 30 Mar 1780 in Swartberg, Albert, Cape Province, was christened on 22 Apr 1781, died on 25 Oct 1852 in Modder River, Free State at age 72, and was buried in Oct 1852 in farm "Stinkfontein", Boshof, Free State. x. Maria Helena VAN NIEKERK was born in 1784 and was christened on 21 Mar 1784. xi. Michiel VAN NIEKERK was born in 1785, was christened on 30 Oct 1785 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died on 30 Dec 1839 in farm "Duvenaarsfontein", Middenveld, Cape Province at age 54. xii. Elisabeth Alida VAN NIEKERK was born in 1788 and was christened on 9 Nov 1788. xiii. Wilhelmina Petronella VAN NIEKERK was born in 1791 and was christened on 6 Mar 1791.
9. Helena Elisabeth OBERHOLZER, daughter of Guilliam OBERHOLZER and Johanna Margaretha BERGMANN, was born in 1745 and was christened on 11 Apr 1745.
Helena married Jan Albert VAN NIEKERK on 23 Jan 1763.
10. Adam TAS, son of Adam TAS and Johanna VAN BEEK, was born circa 1748 in Netherlands and died circa 1779 in Cape Colony at age 31.
Adam married Jacoba WAGENAAR on 19 Apr 1772 in Cape Colony.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Maria Adriana TAS
11. Jacoba WAGENAAR, daughter of Johannes Christoffel WAGNER (Stamvader) and Johanna Maria LUBBE, was born in 1753 and was christened on 15 May 1754.
Jacoba married Adam TAS on 19 Apr 1772 in Cape Colony.
Jacoba next married Benjamin Johannes GEEL (Stamvader) on 11 Jun 1780.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Martha Johanna GEEL was born in Sep 1783 and died on 16 Jun 1874 in Graaff- Reinet, Cape Province at age 90.
12. Carel Jacobus VAN HEERDEN, son of Carel VAN HEERDEN and Maria VAN DER MERWE, was born in 1771 in farm "Rhenosterfontein", Worcester, Cape Province, was christened on 20 Jan 1771, and died in 1838 in farm "Brakfontein", Murraysburg, Cape Province at age 67.
Carel married Cecilia Aletta VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Izaak VAN DER MERWE and Maria Magdalena BURGER, on 26 Sep 1790.
Carel next married Martha BURGER on 28 Oct 1792.
The child from this marriage was: i. Schalk Willem VAN HEERDEN
13. Martha BURGER, daughter of Barend Jacobus BURGER and Jacoba LUBBE, was born in 1778, was christened on 26 Apr 1778, and died in 1837 at age 59.
Martha married Carel Jacobus VAN HEERDEN on 28 Oct 1792.
14. Francois Alewyn Johannes ERASMUS, son of Abraham ERASMUS and Adriana SMIT, was born in 1791 and was christened on 23 Sep 1791.
Francois married Aletta Elisabeth HUGO on 23 Mar 1806 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Rachel Johanna Catharina ERASMUS
15. Aletta Elisabeth HUGO, daughter of Paulus HUGO and Rachel Johanna PRETORIUS, was born in 1788, was christened on 17 Feb 1788, and died in 1850 at age 62.
Aletta married Francois Alewyn Johannes ERASMUS on 23 Mar 1806 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Aletta next married Petrus Jacobus DU TOIT on 7 May 1825 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Fifth Generation (Great Great-Grandparents)
16. Gerrit VAN NIEKERK, son of Cornelis Gerritz VAN NIEKERK (Stamvader) and Maria VAN DER WESTHUIZEN, was born in 1695 and was christened on 18 Sep 1695 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Gerrit married Anna Dorothea BRONS on 6 Oct 1725.
Children from this marriage were: i. Cornelis VAN NIEKERK was born in 1726 and was christened on 29 Dec 1726. ii. Maria Helena VAN NIEKERK was born in 1730 and was christened on 12 Feb 1730. iii. Jan Albert VAN NIEKERK iv. Gerrit VAN NIEKERK was born in 1737 and was christened on 17 Feb 1737.
17. Anna Dorothea BRONS, daughter of Johann Albert BRONS (Stamvader) and Maria THOMASSE, was born in 1709 and was christened on 3 Nov 1709 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Anna married Gerrit VAN NIEKERK on 6 Oct 1725.
18. Guilliam OBERHOLZER, son of Johann OBERHOLSTER (Stamvader) and Helena DU TOIT, was born in 1707 and was christened on 4 Dec 1707 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Guilliam married Johanna Margaretha BERGMANN on 30 Dec 1731 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Johannes Willem OBERHOLZER was born in 1732, was christened on 25 Jan 1733, and died before 1735 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Willem OBERHOLZER was born in 1735 and was christened on 20 Nov 1735. iii. Guilliam OBERHOLZER was born in 1737 and was christened on 7 Jul 1737. iv. Cornelis OBERHOLZER was born in 1739, was christened on 3 May 1739, and died before 1742 in Cape Town, Cape Province. v. Michiel OBERHOLZER was born in 1740 and was christened on 13 Nov 1740. vi. Cornelis OBERHOLZER was born in 1742, was christened on 21 Oct 1742, and died before 1748. vii. Helena Elisabeth OBERHOLZER viii. Gerrit Cornelis OBERHOLZER was born in 1748 and was christened on 21 Jul 1748. ix. Pieter OBERHOLZER was born in 1757 and was christened on 27 Nov 1757.
19. Johanna Margaretha BERGMANN, daughter of Willem Stevensz BERGMANN (Stamvader) and Helena MULDER From the Cape, was born in 1716 and was christened on 7 Jan 1717 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Johanna married Guilliam OBERHOLZER on 30 Dec 1731 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
20. Adam TAS, son of Adam TAS (Stamvader) and Elisabeth VAN BRAKEL, was born on 25 Oct 1716 in Cape Colony.
Adam married Johanna VAN BEEK in Netherlands.
The child from this marriage was: i. Adam TAS
21. Johanna VAN BEEK was born in Netherlands and died in Cape Colony.
Johanna married Adam TAS in Netherlands.
22. Johannes Christoffel WAGNER (Stamvader) was born in Germany and died in Cape Colony.
Johannes married Johanna Maria LUBBE on 9 Sep 1753.
Children from this marriage were: i. Jacoba WAGENAAR ii. Johanna Elisabeth WAGENAAR was born in 1754 and was christened on 15 May 1754. iii. Maria WAGENAAR was born on 16 Nov 1755 and died circa 1794 at age 39.
23. Johanna Maria LUBBE, daughter of Hendrik LUBBE and Catharina VAN WYK, was born in 1733 and was christened on 5 Jul 1733 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Johanna married Johannes Christoffel WAGNER (Stamvader) on 9 Sep 1753.
24. Carel VAN HEERDEN, son of Willem VAN HEERDEN and Martha VAN DER MERWE, was born in 1742, was christened on 12 Aug 1742, and died in 1780 at age 38.
Carel married Maria VAN DER MERWE on 3 Nov 1765.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Carel Jacobus VAN HEERDEN
25. Maria VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Izaak VAN DER MERWE and Cecilia Janse VAN RENSBURG, was born in 1749, was christened on 19 Oct 1749 in Tulbagh, Cape Province, and died on 5 Dec 1808 at age 59.
Maria married Carel VAN HEERDEN on 3 Nov 1765.
Maria next married Sebastiaan WOLFAARDT, son of Sebastiaan WOLFAARDT (Stamvader) and Regina Barbara VAN BILJON, on 29 Dec 1782.
26. Barend Jacobus BURGER, son of Schalk Willem BURGER and Hester SMIT, was born in 1747 and was christened on 22 Aug 1747.
Barend married Jacoba LUBBE on 18 Feb 1770.
The child from this marriage was: i. Martha BURGER
27. Jacoba LUBBE, daughter of Barend LUBBE and Martha BURGER, was born in 1753 and was christened on 18 Mar 1753.
Jacoba married Barend Jacobus BURGER on 18 Feb 1770.
28. Abraham ERASMUS, son of Jacob Pietersz ERASMUS and Sara DE KLERK, was born in 1738 and was christened on 6 Jul 1738.
Abraham married Adriana SMIT on 27 Mar 1768.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Jacobus Johannes Petrus ERASMUS was born in 1775 and was christened on 2 Apr 1775. ii. Abraham Stephanus ERASMUS was born in 1779 and was christened on 31 Jan 1779. iii. Francois Alewyn Johannes ERASMUS
29. Adriana SMIT, daughter of Jacobus SMIT and Catharina VAN DYK, was born in 1753 and was christened on 2 Dec 1753.
Adriana married Abraham ERASMUS on 27 Mar 1768.
30. Paulus HUGO, son of Pieter HUGO and Aletta VAN DER MERWE, was born in 1764 and was christened on 30 Jun 1764.
Paulus married Rachel Johanna PRETORIUS on 1 Oct 1786.
The child from this marriage was: i. Aletta Elisabeth HUGO
Paulus next married Martha Barbara LIEBENBERG, daughter of Frederik LIEBENBERG and Unknown, on 29 Nov 1795.
31. Rachel Johanna PRETORIUS, daughter of Willem Sterrenberg PRETORIUS and Elizabeth Cornelia CRAFFORD, was born in 1759, was christened on 26 Aug 1759 in Tulbagh, Cape Province, and died in 1795 in Cape Colony at age 36.
Rachel married Paulus HUGO on 1 Oct 1786.
Rachel next married Pieter Willem VAN HEERDEN on 18 Apr 1781.
Sixth Generation (3rd Great-Grandparents)
32. Cornelis Gerritz VAN NIEKERK (Stamvader) was born in Netherlands and died in Cape Colony.
Cornelis married Maria VAN DER WESTHUIZEN on 1 Apr 1691.
Children from this marriage were: i. Aletta VAN NIEKERK was born in 1692 and was christened on 4 Jan 1693 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Gerrit VAN NIEKERK iii. Johannes VAN NIEKERK was born in 1697, was christened on 15 Sep 1697 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died before 1746. iv. Pieter VAN NIEKERK was born in 1702, was christened on 2 Apr 1702 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died circa 1771 at age 69. v. Helena VAN NIEKERK was born in 1704 and was christened on 9 Nov 1704 in Cape Town, Cape Province. vi. Bernardus VAN NIEKERK was born in 1709 and was christened on 20 Jan 1709 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
33. Maria VAN DER WESTHUIZEN, daughter of Pieter VAN DER WESTHUIZEN (Stamvader) and Maria Hendriks WINKELHAUSEN, was born in 1675 and was christened on 6 Oct 1675.
Maria married Cornelis Gerritz VAN NIEKERK (Stamvader) on 1 Apr 1691.
Maria next married Samuel WALTER (Stamvader) on 22 Mar 1711.
34. Johann Albert BRONS (Stamvader) was born in Germany and died in Cape Colony.
Johann married Anna LYSTER on 24 Apr 1693 in Cape Town, Cape Province. They had no children.
Johann next married Maria KOOPMAN on 8 Sep 1697 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was: i. Anna Maria BRONS was born circa 1699.
Johann next married Dina SOETERMEER on 21 Jan 1706 in Cape Town, Cape Province. They had no children.
Johann next married Maria THOMASSE on 31 Oct 1706 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was: i. Anna Dorothea BRONS
35. Maria THOMASSE .
Maria married Johann Albert BRONS (Stamvader) on 31 Oct 1706 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
36. Johann OBERHOLSTER (Stamvader) was born in 1674 in Zurich, Switzerland and died in 1723 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 49.
Johann had a relationship with Agnitie COLYN, daughter of Bastiaan COLYN (Stamvader) and Maria EVERTS. Marriage status: unmarried.
Their child was: i. Johannes OBERHOLSTER was born in 1702 and was christened on 24 Oct 1702 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Johann next had a relationship with Johanna Marretje FROM THE CAPE. Marriage status: unmarried.
Their child was: i. Barbara OBERHOLSTER was born in 1708 and was christened on 20 Apr 1708 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Johann married Helena DU TOIT on 5 Jul 1706 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Guilliam OBERHOLZER ii. Johannes OBERHOLZER was born in 1710 and was christened on 24 Aug 1710 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province. iii. Johanna Barbara OBERHOLZER was born in 1713, was christened on 16 Jun 1713 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died before 1776.
Johann next married Judith DU PLESSIS, daughter of Jean Prieur DU PLESSIS (Stamvader) and Marie Madeleine MENANTEAU, on 14 Jan 1714. They had no children.
37. Helena DU TOIT, daughter of Guillaume DU TOIT (Stamvader) and Sara Barendts COCHET, was born in 1690, was christened on 6 Aug 1690, and died circa 1713 in Cape Colony at age 23.
Helena married Johann OBERHOLSTER (Stamvader) on 5 Jul 1706 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
38. Willem Stevensz BERGMANN (Stamvader) was born in Netherlands and died in Cape Colony.
Willem married Helena MULDER From the Cape on 2 Oct 1718 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Wilhelmina Hendrina BERGMANN was born circa 1713. ii. Johanna Margaretha BERGMANN iii. Johannes BERGMANN was born in 1723 and was christened on 8 Aug 1723. iv. Gerrit BERGMANN was born in 1725 and was christened on 20 May 1725.
39. Helena MULDER From the Cape .
Helena married Willem Stevensz BERGMANN (Stamvader) on 2 Oct 1718 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
40. Adam TAS (Stamvader), son of Jan TAS and Margaretha Geertruyd LINDENHOVIUS, was born in 1668 in Amsterdam, Netherlands and died in Jun 1722 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 54.
Adam married Elisabeth VAN BRAKEL on 7 Jun 1703.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Jan TAS was born in 1704, was christened on 11 May 1704, and died in 1708 at age 4. ii. Sara Margaretha TAS was born in 1705 and was christened on 6 Dec 1705. iii. Adam TAS was born in 1706, was christened on 25 Oct 1706, and died in 1713 at age 7. iv. Jan TAS was born in 1710. v. Adriaan TAS was born in 1711. vi. Adam TAS
Adam next married Johanna KOEVAAL on 25 Nov 1717 in Cape Colony.
41. Elisabeth VAN BRAKEL, daughter of Adriaan VAN BRAKEL (Stamvader) and Sara VAN ROSENDAAL, was born in 1674, was christened on 13 May 1674, and died in 1717 in Cape Colony at age 43.
Elisabeth married Hans Jurgen GRIMPEN (Stamvader), son of Hans GRIMPEN and Sophia KOSTERS, on 25 Jul 1700.
Elisabeth next married Adam TAS (Stamvader) on 7 Jun 1703.
46. Hendrik LUBBE, son of Berend LÖBE (Stamvader) and Jacoba BRANDENBURG, was born in 1700 and was christened on 5 Sep 1700 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Hendrik married Catharina VAN WYK on 20 Jun 1726.
Children from this marriage were: i. Jacoba LUBBE was born in 1727 and was christened on 28 Sep 1727 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province. ii. Sara LUBBE was born in 1728 and was christened on 19 Dec 1728. iii. Aletta LUBBE was born in 1731 and was christened on 24 Jun 1731 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province. iv. Johanna Maria LUBBE v. Adriaan LUBBE was born in 1742 and was christened on 28 Jan 1742. vi. Jacoba Elisabeth LUBBE was born in 1744 in Tulbagh, Cape Province and died before 1793.
47. Catharina VAN WYK, daughter of Arie VAN WYK (Stamvader) and Cornelia HELM, was born in 1710 and was christened on 20 Jul 1710 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Catharina married Hendrik LUBBE on 20 Jun 1726.
48. Willem VAN HEERDEN, son of Pieter Willem VAN HEERDEN (Stamvader) and Magteld VAN DER MERWE, was born in 1709, was christened on 22 Oct 1709, and died in 1767 at age 58.
Willem married Martha VAN DER MERWE on 30 Apr 1730.
Children from this marriage were: i. Pieter Willem VAN HEERDEN was born in 1731 and was christened on 18 Mar 1731. ii. Schalk Willem VAN HEERDEN was born in 1732 and was christened on 20 Jul 1732. iii. Machteld VAN HEERDEN was born in 1734 and was christened on 11 Jul 1734. iv. Carel VAN HEERDEN v. Roelof VAN HEERDEN was born in 1744 and was christened on 25 Dec 1744.
49. Martha VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Schalk VAN DER MERWE and Anne PREVOST, was born in 1713 and was christened on 14 May 1713.
Martha married Willem VAN HEERDEN on 30 Apr 1730.
50. Izaak VAN DER MERWE, son of Schalk VAN DER MERWE and Anne PREVOST, was born on 14 Apr 1711, was christened on 27 Sep 1711 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died on 1 Jun 1777 in farm "Modderfontein", Ceres, Cape Province at age 66.
Izaak married Cecilia Janse VAN RENSBURG on 19 Apr 1732 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Anna Sophia VAN DER MERWE was born in 1733, was christened on 12 Apr 1733, and died in 1774 at age 41. ii. Schalk Willem VAN DER MERWE was born on 1 Jan 1735 and was christened on 9 Jan 1735 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province. iii. Cecilia VAN DER MERWE was born in 1740 and was christened on 10 Apr 1740. iv. Izaak VAN DER MERWE was born on 1 Feb 1745 in farm "Boplaas", Tulbagh, Cape Province, was christened on 7 Mar 1745 in Tulbagh, Cape Province, and died on 17 Oct 1781 in Het Land Van Waveren, Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 36. v. Maria VAN DER MERWE
51. Cecilia Janse VAN RENSBURG, daughter of Claas Jansz VAN RENSBURG (Stamvader) and Aaltje VAN DER MERWE, was born on 1 Mar 1715, was christened on 21 Apr 1715 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died on 26 Apr 1774 at age 59.
Cecilia married Izaak VAN DER MERWE on 19 Apr 1732 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
52. Schalk Willem BURGER, son of Willem BURGER and Elsie VAN DER MERWE, was born in 1720 and was christened on 20 Oct 1720.
Schalk married Hester SMIT on 16 Sep 1742.
Children from this marriage were: i. Barend Jacobus BURGER ii. Schalk Willemse BURGER was born in 1750 and was christened on 26 Apr 1750. iii. Elsie BURGER was born in 1751 and was christened on 26 Dec 1751. iv. Andries Petrus BURGER was born in 1755 and was christened on 2 Dec 1755.
53. Hester SMIT, daughter of Alewyn SMIT and Hester BEKKER, was born in 1723 and was christened on 31 Oct 1723 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
Hester married Schalk Willem BURGER on 16 Sep 1742.
54. Barend LUBBE, son of Berend LÖBE (Stamvader) and Jacoba BRANDENBURG, was born in 1713 and was christened on 5 Mar 1713 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Barend married Martha BURGER on 19 Feb 1736 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Andries LUBBE was born in 1737 and was christened on 3 Feb 1737. ii. Barend Frederik LUBBE was born in 1738 and was christened on 4 Oct 1738. iii. Willem LUBBE was born in 1741 and was christened on 2 Mar 1741. iv. Elizabeth LUBBE was born in 1745, was christened on 21 Feb 1745, and died before 1782. v. Catharina Johanna LUBBE was born in 1749 and was christened on 9 Mar 1749. vi. Johannes Hendrik LUBBE was born in 1751 and was christened on 25 Apr 1751 in Tulbagh, Cape Province. vii. Jacoba LUBBE viii. Elsje LUBBE was born on 26 May 1755, was christened on 6 Jul 1755, and died on 16 Dec 1816 at age 61.
55. Martha BURGER, daughter of Andries BURGER and Maria VAN DER MERWE, was born in 1720 and was christened on 5 Jan 1721.
Martha married Barend LUBBE on 19 Feb 1736 in Paarl, Cape Province.
56. Jacob Pietersz ERASMUS, son of Pieter ERASMUS (Stamvader) and Maria Elisabeth JOOSTE, was born in 1708 and was christened on 19 Aug 1708.
Jacob married Hester PIENAAR, daughter of Jacques PIENAAR and Louise CORDIER, on 4 Aug 1732.
The child from this marriage was: i. Jacob ERASMUS was born in 1737 and was christened on 4 Aug 1737 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Jacob next married Sara DE KLERK on 4 Aug 1737.
Children from this marriage were: i. Abraham ERASMUS ii. Engela ERASMUS was born in 1747 and was christened on 16 Jul 1747. iii. Magdalena Catharina ERASMUS was born circa 1749.
57. Sara DE KLERK, daughter of Abraham DE CLERQ (Stamvader) and Madeleine MOUTON, was born in 1710 and was christened on 3 Aug 1710 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Sara married Jacob Pietersz ERASMUS on 4 Aug 1737.
Sara next married Sybrand VAN DYK, son of Joost Pieterz VAN DYK (Stamvader) and Catharina VERBURGH, on 21 Mar 1751 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Joseph VAN DYK was born in 1752 and was christened on 9 Jul 1752 in Tulbagh, Cape Province. ii. Sara VAN DYK was born in 1755, was christened on 16 Nov 1755 in Swartland (Tulbagh), Cape Province, and died circa 1774 at age 19. iii. Anna Catharina VAN DYK was born in 1758 and was christened on 30 Apr 1758 in Swartland (Tulbagh), Cape Province.
58. Jacobus SMIT, son of Jacobus SMIT and Lijsbeth SLABBERT, was born in 1716 and was christened on 6 Sep 1716 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Jacobus married Catharina VAN DYK on 14 Aug 1746 in Swartland (Tulbagh), Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Francois Alewyn SMIT was born in 1766, was christened on 9 Mar 1766 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died before Jan 1831 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. ii. Adriana SMIT iii. Jacobus SMIT was born in 1755 and was christened on 6 Jul 1755.
59. Catharina VAN DYK, daughter of Burgert Pieter VAN DYK and Maria VISSER, was born in 1724 and was christened on 27 Aug 1724 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Catharina married Jacobus SMIT on 14 Aug 1746 in Swartland (Tulbagh), Cape Province.
60. Pieter HUGO, son of Pierre HUGO and Anne RETIEF, was born in 1759, was christened on 15 May 1759, and died in 1784 at age 25.
Pieter married Aletta VAN DER MERWE on 27 Feb 1752 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Anna Aletta HUGO was born in 1757, was christened on 7 Aug 1757 in Tulbagh, Cape Province, and died circa 1825 at age 68. ii. Paulus HUGO
Pieter next married Hester CILLIERS on 28 Feb 1768.
61. Aletta VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Pieter VAN DER MERWE and Elsje Janse VAN RENSBURG, was born in 1732, was christened on 20 Jul 1732, and died on 23 Mar 1767 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 35.
Aletta married Pieter HUGO on 27 Feb 1752 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
62. Willem Sterrenberg PRETORIUS, son of Johannes PRETORIUS and Helena VOSLOO, was born in 1725, was christened on 11 Jul 1728 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died in 1782 in Het Land Van Waveren, Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 57.
Willem married Elizabeth Cornelia CRAFFORD on 20 Jun 1756.
Children from this marriage were: i. Rachel Johanna PRETORIUS ii. Willem Sterrenberg PRETORIUS was born in 1762, was christened on 25 Apr 1762 in Tulbagh, Cape Province, and died on 16 Nov 1837 on farm "Klipfontein", Bedford, Cape Province at age 75. iii. Jan Lodewyk PRETORIUS was born in 1766 and was christened on 25 Dec 1766 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
63. Elizabeth Cornelia CRAFFORD, daughter of Dirk Willem CRAFFORD (Stamvader) and Rachel JOUBERT, was born in 1731 and was christened on 1 Mar 1731.
Elizabeth married Willem Sterrenberg PRETORIUS on 20 Jun 1756.
Seventh Generation (4th Great-Grandparents)
66. Pieter VAN DER WESTHUIZEN (Stamvader) was born in Flanders and died in Cape Colony.
Pieter married Maria Hendriks WINKELHAUSEN on 5 Nov 1673.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Maria VAN DER WESTHUIZEN ii. Jan VAN DER WESTHUIZEN was born in 1677 and was christened on 9 May 1677. iii. Nicolaas VAN DER WESTHUIZEN was born in 1679, was christened on 7 May 1679 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died on 8 Oct 1736 at age 57. iv. Barend VAN DER WESTHUIZEN was born in 1681, was christened on 16 Mar 1681, and died circa 1713 at age 32. v. Pieter VAN DER WESTHUIZEN was born in 1690, was christened on 10 Sep 1690, and died in 1739 in Cape Colony at age 49. vi. Helena VAN DER WESTHUIZEN was born in 1683 and was christened on 27 Jun 1683.
Pieter next married Eva Gerrits LIGTEHARD on 26 Sep 1706.
67. Maria Hendriks WINKELHAUSEN .
Maria married Hendrik BARENDS.
Maria next married Pieter VAN DER WESTHUIZEN (Stamvader) on 5 Nov 1673.
74. Guillaume DU TOIT (Stamvader) .
Guillaume married Sara Barendts COCHET on 16 May 1688 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was: i. Helena DU TOIT
75. Sara Barendts COCHET, daughter of Barendt Jansz COCHET and Jannetje Joosse VAN VOOREN, was born circa 1652 in Oosterhoebrug, Walcheren, Netherlands and died in Apr 1714 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 62.
Sara married Pierre DE CLERQ before 1670 in Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were: i. Abraham DE CLERQ (Stamvader) was born on 7 May 1670, was christened on 11 Oct 1671 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands, and died in 1745 in Cape Colony at age 75. ii. Joost DE CLERQ was born in 1678, was christened on 16 Oct 1678 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands, and died circa 1713 in Cape Colony at age 35. iii. Jeanne DE CLERQ was born in 1676 in Middelburg, Zeeland, Netherlands and was christened on 3 May 1676 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands. Another name for Jeanne was Johanna. iv. Barendt DE CLERQ was born in 1674 and was christened on 14 Jan 1674 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands.
Sara next married Guillaume DU TOIT (Stamvader) on 16 May 1688 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
80. Jan TAS died before 1691 in Netherlands.
Jan married Margaretha Geertruyd LINDENHOVIUS in Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Adam TAS (Stamvader) ii. Sara Wilhelmina TAS iii. Johanna Maria TAS
81. Margaretha Geertruyd LINDENHOVIUS, daughter of Adam LINDENHOVIUS and Anna KEMENERUS.
Margaretha married Jan TAS in Netherlands.
82. Adriaan VAN BRAKEL (Stamvader) .
Adriaan married Sara VAN ROSENDAAL on 28 May 1670 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Willem VAN BRAKEL was born in 1671 and was christened on 22 Apr 1671. ii. Elisabeth VAN BRAKEL was born in 1672, was christened on 12 Mar 1673, and died circa 1674 at age 2. iii. Elisabeth VAN BRAKEL iv. Jacobus VAN BRAKEL was born in 1676, was christened on 12 Apr 1676, and died circa 1679 at age 3. v. Maria VAN BRAKEL was born in 1677 and was christened on 30 May 1677. vi. Jacobus VAN BRAKEL was born in 1679, was christened on 19 May 1679, and died circa 1680 at age 1. vii. Jacobus VAN BRAKEL was born in 1680 and was christened on 8 Jan 1681. viii. Hermanus VAN BRAKEL was born in 1682, was christened on 13 Dec 1682, and died circa 1683 at age 1. ix. Hermanus VAN BRAKEL was born in 1683, was christened on 2 Jan 1684, and died circa 1686 at age 3. x. Magteld VAN BRAKEL was born in 1684, was christened on 25 Feb 1685, and died in 1689 at age 5. xi. Hermanus VAN BRAKEL was born in 1686, was christened on 30 Jun 1686, and died circa 1745 at age 59. xii. Leendert VAN BRAKEL was born in 1687 and was christened on 5 Oct 1687. xiii. Barbara VAN BRAKEL was born in 1688 and was christened on 14 Nov 1688. xiv. Magteld VAN BRAKEL was born in 1690 and was christened on 31 Dec 1690.
83. Sara VAN ROSENDAAL .
Sara married Adriaan VAN BRAKEL (Stamvader) on 28 May 1670 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
92. Berend LÖBE (Stamvader) was born in Germany and died in Cape Colony.
Berend married Jacoba BRANDENBURG circa 1696 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Hendrik LUBBE was born in 1697, was christened on 3 Nov 1697 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died circa 1699 at age 2. ii. Aletta LUBBE was born in 1699, was christened on 14 Jun 1699, and died circa 1754 at age 55. iii. Hendrik LUBBE iv. Elizabeth LUBBE was born in 1702, was christened on 6 Aug 1702, and died on 13 Mar 1770 on farm "Roodezand", Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 68. v. Jan LUBBE was born in 1703 and was christened on 23 Sep 1703. vi. Francois LUBBE was born in 1705 and was christened on 1 Jan 1705. vii. Catharina LUBBE was born in 1706 and was christened on 23 May 1706. viii. Jacobus LUBBE was born in 1707 and was christened on 31 Jul 1707. ix. Gerrit LUBBE was born in 1708 and was christened on 28 Oct 1708. x. Johanna LUBBE was born in 1709, was christened on 26 Jan 1710, and died before 1735. xi. Maria Jacoba LUBBE was born in 1711 and was christened on 20 Dec 1711. xii. Barend LUBBE
93. Jacoba BRANDENBURG was born circa 1675 in Netherlands and died in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Jacoba married Berend LÖBE (Stamvader) circa 1696 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
94. Arie VAN WYK (Stamvader), son of Roelof Adriaensz VAN WYK and Trjinje JANS, was born in 1667, was christened on 18 Jan 1668 in Nieuwe Kerk, Amsterdam, Netherlands, and died circa Jul 1713 in Cape Colony at age 46. Another name for Arie was Arie.
Arie married Marie LE LONG, daughter of Jean LE LONG (Stamvader) and Marie COCHET, circa 1689 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
Arie next married Cornelia HELM in Oct 1693.
Children from this marriage were: i. Roelof VAN WYK was born in 1694, was christened on 5 Sep 1694 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in Jul 1746 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 52. ii. Aletta VAN WYK was born in 1696 and was christened on 15 Jul 1696 in Cape Town, Cape Province. iii. Willem VAN WYK was born in 1698, was christened on 19 Jan 1698 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died circa 1771 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 73. iv. Sara VAN WYK was born in 1699 and was christened on 29 Nov 1699 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province. v. Adrianus VAN WYK was born in 1701, was christened on 25 Dec 1701 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died in 1703 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 2. vi. Maria VAN WYK was born in 1703. vii. Gerrit Arie VAN WYK was born in 1704, was christened on 14 Dec 1704, and died before 1740. viii. Adriaan VAN WYK was born circa 1705 and died before 1771. ix. Gerrit VAN WYK was born in 1707, was christened on 14 Dec 1707 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died on 12 Aug 1708 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 1. x. Catharina VAN WYK xi. Hester VAN WYK was born in 1712 and was christened on 23 Oct 1712 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
95. Cornelia HELM, daughter of Hans HELM (Stamvader) and Geertruy WILLEMSE, was born in 1673, was christened on 17 Sep 1673 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died circa 21 Jun 1720 in Cape Colony at age 47.
Cornelia married Jan VAN DEN BOSCH (Stamvader) on 28 Mar 1688 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Catharina VAN DEN BOSCH was born in 1688 and was christened on 29 Jan 1689. ii. Johanna VAN DEN BOSCH was born in 1690 and was christened on 11 Jun 1690. iii. Johannes VAN DEN BOSCH was born in 1692 and was christened on 13 Apr 1692.
Cornelia next married Arie VAN WYK (Stamvader) in Oct 1693.
Cornelia next married Jacob KUTZER (Stamvader), son of Wenzeslaus KUTZER and Unknown, on 15 Sep 1717.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Johannes Jacobus COETZER was born in 1716 and was christened on 24 May 1716. ii. Dorothea COETZER was born in 1717, was christened on 19 Sep 1717, and died before 1746.
96. Pieter Willem VAN HEERDEN (Stamvader) was born circa 1681 in Heerde, Gelderland, Netherlands and died in 1763 in Het Land Van Waveren, Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 82.
Pieter married Magteld VAN DER MERWE on 18 Sep 1708 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Willem VAN HEERDEN ii. Elsje VAN HEERDEN was born circa 1712. iii. Hendrik VAN HEERDEN was born in 1712. iv. Jacob VAN HEERDEN was born in 1715, was christened on 14 Jul 1715, and died in 1749 at age 34. v. Aletta VAN HEERDEN was born in 1718 and was christened on 8 May 1718. vi. Jacoba VAN HEERDEN was born in 1720 and was christened on 19 May 1720. vii. Helena VAN HEERDEN was born in 1722 and was christened on 27 Sep 1722. viii. Sophia VAN HEERDEN was born in 1724 and was christened on 31 Dec 1724. ix. Petrus Johannes VAN HEERDEN was born in 1727, was christened on 15 Jul 1727, and died as an infant. x. Petronella VAN HEERDEN was born in 1729 and was christened on 4 Nov 1729. xi. Maria VAN HEERDEN was born in 1733 and was christened on 22 Nov 1733.
97. Magteld VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) and Elsje CLOETE, was born circa 1691 and died on 11 Feb 1765 in farm "Weltevreden", Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 74.
Magteld married Pieter Willem VAN HEERDEN (Stamvader) on 18 Sep 1708 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
98. Schalk VAN DER MERWE, son of Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) and Elsje CLOETE, was born on 14 Jul 1673, was christened on 13 Aug 1673 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in 1740 in Cape Colony at age 67.
Schalk married Anne PREVOST in Jun 1680.
Children from this marriage were: i. Elsie VAN DER MERWE was born on 18 Aug 1697 and was christened in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province. ii. Hendrik Willem VAN DER MERWE was born in 1698, was christened on 17 Aug 1698, and died as an infant. iii. Carel VAN DER MERWE was born on 16 Nov 1698, was christened on 30 Dec 1698 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died circa 1722 at age 24. iv. Jacob VAN DER MERWE was born on 19 Jan 1699, was christened on 12 Feb 1699 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died on 31 Oct 1769 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 70. v. Willem VAN DER MERWE was born on 4 Oct 1701, was christened on 23 Oct 1701 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died on 3 Jul 1776 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 74. vi. Maria VAN DER MERWE was born on 15 Apr 1703 and was christened on 29 Apr 1703 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province. vii. Anna VAN DER MERWE was born in 1704, was christened on 21 May 1704, and died before 1739. viii. Sophia VAN DER MERWE was born on 27 Mar 1706, was christened on 18 Apr 1706 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died circa Oct 1727 at age 21. ix. David VAN DER MERWE was born on 20 Aug 1707, was christened on 2 Oct 1707 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died on 1 Apr 1784 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 76. x. Pieter VAN DER MERWE was born on 1 Jun 1709, was christened on 7 Jun 1709, and died on 2 May 1763 in Bokkeveld, Cape Province at age 53. xi. Izaak VAN DER MERWE xii. Martha VAN DER MERWE xiii. Hendrik VAN DER MERWE was born on 5 Oct 1714, was christened on 28 Oct 1714, and died on 17 Sep 1762 at age 47. xiv. Gerrit VAN DER MERWE was born on 22 Oct 1716, was christened on 22 Nov 1716 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died on 9 Feb 1770 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 53. xv. Roelof VAN DER MERWE was born on 26 Jun 1718 and was christened on 24 Jul 1718. xvi. Pieternella VAN DER MERWE was born on 21 Apr 1720 and was christened on 19 May 1720. xvii. Carel VAN DER MERWE was born in 1725 and was christened on 2 Sep 1725.
99. Anne PREVOST, daughter of Charles PREVOST (Stamvader) and Marie LE FEBRE, was born on 18 Feb 1681 in Marcq, France and died circa 1745 in Cape Colony at age 64.
Anne married Schalk VAN DER MERWE in Jun 1680.
100. Schalk VAN DER MERWE, son of Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) and Elsje CLOETE, was born on 14 Jul 1673, was christened on 13 Aug 1673 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in 1740 in Cape Colony at age 67. (Duplicate. See Person 98 on Page 1)
101. Anne PREVOST, daughter of Charles PREVOST (Stamvader) and Marie LE FEBRE, was born on 18 Feb 1681 in Marcq, France and died circa 1745 in Cape Colony at age 64. (Duplicate. See Person 99 on Page 1)
102. Claas Jansz VAN RENSBURG (Stamvader) was born circa 1661 and died circa 1728 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 67.
Claas married Aaltje VAN DER MERWE on 14 Aug 1708 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Elsje Janse VAN RENSBURG was born in 1712, was christened on 31 Jul 1712 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died on 15 Oct 1776 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 64. ii. Cecilia Janse VAN RENSBURG iii. Willem VAN RENSBURG was born in 1717, was christened on 21 Nov 1717 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died on 21 Jul 1746 in Bokkeveld, Cape Province at age 29. iv. Nicolaas VAN RENSBURG was born in 1720 and was christened on 3 Mar 1720 in Paarl, Cape Province. v. Hendrik VAN RENSBURG was born in 1723, was christened on 12 Sep 1723 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died before 1808. vi. Sophia VAN RENSBURG was born on 25 Nov 1725, was christened on 23 Dec 1725 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died on 30 Dec 1800 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 75. vii. Johannes VAN RENSBURG was born in 1709, was christened on 7 Jul 1709 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died circa 1775 in Albertinia, Cape Province at age 66.
103. Aaltje VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) and Elsje CLOETE, was born on 30 Mar 1684, was christened on 23 Apr 1684 in Cape Town, Cape Province, died on 30 Sep 1729 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 45, and was buried in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
Aaltje married Claas Jansz VAN RENSBURG (Stamvader) on 14 Aug 1708 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Aaltje next married Marthinus VAN STADEN, son of Maarten VAN STADEN (Stamvader) and Margaretha ERNST.
Children from this marriage were: i. Martha VAN STADEN was born on 27 Jun 1706. ii. Maria VAN STADEN was born in 1707 and died circa 1785 at age 78. iii. Marthinus VAN STADEN was born in 1708 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
104. Willem BURGER, son of Berndt BURCHERDT (Stamvader) and Marritje VAN DER MERWE, was born in 1696 and was christened on 28 May 1696 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Willem married Elsie VAN DER MERWE.
Children from this marriage were: i. Barend BURGER was born in 1717, was christened on 13 Dec 1717, and died before 1771. ii. Schalk Willem BURGER iii. Anna Sophia BURGER was born in 1723 and was christened on 17 Jan 1723 in Paarl, Cape Province. iv. Maria Magdalena BURGER was born in 1726 and was christened on 11 Aug 1726.
105. Elsie VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Schalk VAN DER MERWE and Anne PREVOST, was born on 18 Aug 1697 and was christened in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
Elsie married Willem BURGER.
106. Alewyn SMIT, son of Johannes SMIT (Stamvader) and Adriana TOL, was born in 1695, was christened on 28 Sep 1695 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died in 1774 in Het Land Van Waveren, Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 79.
Alewyn married Hester BEKKER on 25 Dec 1718 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Helena SMIT was born circa 1720, was christened on 26 Apr 1722, and died before 1792. ii. Hester SMIT iii. Johanna Adriana SMIT was born in 1725, was christened on 19 Aug 1725 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died before 1740. iv. Petronella SMIT was born in 1727 and was christened on 23 Nov 1727. v. Dorothea Maria SMIT was born in 1730 and was christened on 8 Apr 1730 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province. vi. Johan Pieter SMIT was born in 1733, was christened on 5 Jul 1733 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died circa 1735 at age 2. vii. Alewyn SMIT was born on 4 Feb 1736, was christened on 8 Apr 1736 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died in Oct 1790 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 54. viii. Johannes Petrus SMIT was born in 1738 and was christened on 2 Feb 1738 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ix. Jacobus SMIT was born in 1740 and was christened on 25 Nov 1740. x. Andries Adriaan SMIT was born in 1742 in Vier En Twintig Riviere, Tulbagh, was christened on 23 Dec 1742, and died on 23 Sep 1814 in Graaff-Reinet District at age 72. xi. Johanna Adriana SMIT was born in 1744 and was christened on 3 Jan 1745. xii. Stephanus Christiaan SMIT was born in 1749, was christened on 5 Oct 1749 in Tulbagh, Cape Province, and died on 21 Oct 1791 in farm "Misverstand", Berg River, Cape Province at age 42.
107. Hester BEKKER, daughter of Peter BECKER (Stamvader) and Jeanne DE CLERQ, was born in 1700, was christened on 5 Sep 1700, and died in 1778 in Cape Colony at age 78.
Hester married Alewyn SMIT on 25 Dec 1718 in Paarl, Cape Province.
108. Berend LÖBE (Stamvader) was born in Germany and died in Cape Colony. (Duplicate. See Person 92 on Page 1)
109. Jacoba BRANDENBURG was born circa 1675 in Netherlands and died in Stellenbosch, Cape Province. (Duplicate. See Person 93 on Page 1)
110. Andries BURGER, son of Berndt BURCHERDT (Stamvader) and Marritje VAN DER MERWE, was born circa 1699.
Andries married Maria VAN DER MERWE on 14 Apr 1720 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Martha BURGER ii. Willem BURGER was born in 1722 and was christened on 5 Jul 1722. iii. Anna Sophia BURGER was born in 1723 and was christened on 2 Oct 1723. iv. Barend Frederik BURGER was born in 1725 and was christened on 20 May 1725.
Andries next married Martha MOUTON, daughter of Jacques MOUTON (Stamvader) and Francina BEVERNAGIE, on 12 Jan 1727.
Children from this marriage were: i. Andries BURGER was born in 1727, was christened on 18 Apr 1728, and died circa 1730 at age 3. ii. Maria Magdalena BURGER was born circa 1729. iii. Andries BURGER was born in 1731, was christened on 25 Mar 1731, and died circa 1738 at age 7. iv. Elsie BURGER was born in 1733, was christened on 26 Dec 1733, and died circa 1736 at age 3. v. Elsie BURGER was born in 1736 and was christened on 7 Oct 1736. vi. Andries BURGER was born in 1739 and was christened on 4 Jul 1739. vii. Jacobus Abraham BURGER was born in 1740 and was christened on 30 Apr 1741. viii. Hendrik Schalk BURGER was born in 1744 and was christened on 17 Apr 1745. ix. Pieter BURGER was born in 1747 and was christened on 1 Oct 1747.
111. Maria VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Schalk VAN DER MERWE and Anne PREVOST, was born on 15 Apr 1703 and was christened on 29 Apr 1703 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
Maria married Andries BURGER on 14 Apr 1720 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
112. Pieter ERASMUS (Stamvader) was born in Netherlands and died in 1731 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
Pieter married Maria Elisabeth JOOSTE in 1697.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Rasmus ERASMUS was born in 1698 and was christened on 21 Sep 1698. ii. Lourens ERASMUS was born in 1704, was christened on 22 Jun 1704, and died before 1736. iii. Jacob Pietersz ERASMUS
113. Maria Elisabeth JOOSTE was born circa 1676 in Middelburg, Zeeland, Netherlands and died in Sep 1723 in Cape Colony at age 47.
Maria married Pieter JANSEN.
Maria next married Pieter ERASMUS (Stamvader) in 1697.
114. Abraham DE CLERQ (Stamvader), son of Pierre DE CLERQ and Sara Barendts COCHET, was born on 7 May 1670, was christened on 11 Oct 1671 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands, and died in 1745 in Cape Colony at age 75.
Abraham married Madeleine MOUTON on 12 May 1709 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Sara DE KLERK ii. Maria DE KLERK was born in 1712 and was christened on 14 Aug 1712 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province. iii. Pieter DE KLERK was born in 1714 and was christened on 11 Nov 1714. iv. Barend DE KLERK was born in 1716 and was christened on 8 Nov 1716. v. Abraham DE KLERK was born in 1721 and was christened on 26 Jul 1721. vi. Jacob DE KLERK was born in 1723 and was christened on 17 Oct 1723. vii. Joseph DE KLERK was born in 1726, was christened on 25 Aug 1726 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died in 1791 at age 65. viii. Johannes DE KLERK was born in 1728 and was christened on 5 Dec 1728. ix. Jannetje DE KLERK was born in 1714 and was christened on 30 Sep 1714 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province. Another name for Jannetje was Anna DE KLERK. x. Cornelis DE KLERK was born in 1729 and was christened on 8 Jan 1730.
115. Madeleine MOUTON, daughter of Jacques MOUTON (Stamvader) and Marie DE VILLIERS, was born circa 1689 in Middelburg, Zeeland, Netherlands.
Madeleine married Abraham DE CLERQ (Stamvader) on 12 May 1709 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
116. Jacobus SMIT, son of Johannes SMIT (Stamvader) and Adriana TOL, was born in 1689, was christened on 16 Oct 1689 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died in 1752 in farm "Uylekraal", Swartland (Tulbagh) at age 63.
Jacobus married Lijsbeth SLABBERT on 3 Mar 1709 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Floris SMIT was born in 1712 and was christened on 3 Apr 1712 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Jasper SMIT was born in 1714 and was christened on 18 Nov 1714 in Cape Town, Cape Province. iii. Jacobus SMIT iv. Adriana SMIT was born in 1724 and was christened on 2 Jul 1724. v. Maarten SMIT was born in 1731 and was christened on 7 Oct 1731. vi. Alewijn SMIT was born in 1734, was christened on 4 Jul 1734 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died on 25 Jan 1787 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 53. vii. Francois SMIT was born in 1729 and was christened on 17 Apr 1729. viii. Johanna Jacomina SMIT was born in 1760 and was christened on 18 May 1760.
117. Lijsbeth SLABBERT, daughter of Floris SLABBERT (Stamvader) and Huibrecht JASPERSE, was born in 1691, was christened on 16 Apr 1691 in Meliskerke, Walcheren, Zeeland, Netherlands, and died in Oct 1771 in Cape Colony at age 80. Another name for Lijsbeth was Elisabeth SLABBERT.
Lijsbeth married Jacobus SMIT on 3 Mar 1709 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
118. Burgert Pieter VAN DYK, son of Joost Pieterz VAN DYK (Stamvader) and Catharina VERBURGH, was born in 1697 and was christened on 18 May 1697.
Burgert married Maria VISSER on 6 Oct 1715.
Children from this marriage were: i. Hendrik VAN DYK was born in 1720 and was christened on 16 Jun 1720. ii. Catharina VAN DYK iii. Johanna VAN DYK was born in 1726 and was christened on 25 Dec 1726.
119. Maria VISSER, daughter of Johannes VISSER and Maria VAN NEGAPATNAM, was born circa 1696.
Maria married Burgert Pieter VAN DYK on 6 Oct 1715.
120. Pierre HUGO, son of Daniel HUGOT (Stamvader) and Anne ROSSOUW, was born in 1710, was christened on 15 Jun 1710, and died on 4 Mar 1752 in De Doorns, Cape Province at age 42.
Pierre married Anne RETIEF on 16 May 1728 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Anna Aletta HUGO was born in 1735, was christened on 20 Feb 1735, and died on 25 Jun 1761 in Murdered by a slave on the farm "Vredenburg", Stellenbosch at age 26. ii. Pieter HUGO
121. Anne RETIEF, daughter of Francois RETIEF (Stamvader) and Marie MOUY, was born in 1704, was christened on 30 Nov 1704, and died circa 1763 at age 59.
Anne married Pierre HUGO on 16 May 1728 in Paarl, Cape Province.
122. Pieter VAN DER MERWE, son of Schalk VAN DER MERWE and Anne PREVOST, was born on 1 Jun 1709, was christened on 7 Jun 1709, and died on 2 May 1763 in Bokkeveld, Cape Province at age 53.
Pieter married Elsje Janse VAN RENSBURG on 12 Aug 1731.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Aletta VAN DER MERWE ii. Pieter VAN DER MERWE was born in 1738 and was christened on 6 Jul 1738.
123. Elsje Janse VAN RENSBURG, daughter of Claas Jansz VAN RENSBURG (Stamvader) and Aaltje VAN DER MERWE, was born in 1712, was christened on 31 Jul 1712 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died on 15 Oct 1776 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 64.
Elsje married Pieter VAN DER MERWE on 12 Aug 1731.
124. Johannes PRETORIUS, son of Johannes PRETORIUS (Stamvader) and Johanna VICTOR, was born in 1680, was christened on 22 Sep 1680 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died circa 1732 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 52.
Johannes married Helena VOSLOO.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Johannes PRETORIUS was born in 1711, was christened on 21 Mar 1711 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died on 4 Jul 1778 in Het Land Van Waveren, Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 67. ii. Gerrit PRETORIUS was born in 1712 and was christened on 12 Nov 1712. iii. Wessel PRETORIUS was born in 1714, was christened on 30 Sep 1714, and died in 1752 at age 38. iv. Johanna PRETORIUS was born in 1716 and was christened on 8 Nov 1716. v. Anna PRETORIUS was born in 1718, was christened on 2 Oct 1718, and died circa 1754 at age 36. vi. Lodewicus PRETORIUS was born in 1721 and was christened on 31 Aug 1721. vii. Jacobus PRETORIUS was born in 1724, was christened on 27 Feb 1724 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died before Aug 1778. viii. Willem Sterrenberg PRETORIUS ix. Arnoldus Kruysman PRETORIUS was born in 1726 and was christened on 24 Feb 1726. x. Wynand PRETORIUS was born in 1730 and was christened on 8 Oct 1730.
125. Helena VOSLOO, daughter of Johannes VOSLOO (Stamvader) and Helena FROM MALABAR, was born circa 1690 and died circa 1731 at age 41.
Helena married Johannes PRETORIUS.
126. Dirk Willem CRAFFORD (Stamvader) was born in Netherlands and died in 1744 in Cape Colony.
Dirk married Rachel JOUBERT on 22 Jan 1730 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Elizabeth Cornelia CRAFFORD ii. Rachel CRAFFORD was born in 1736 and was christened on 1 Jul 1736. iii. Jan CRAFFORD was born on 26 Nov 1741 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, was christened on 26 Nov 1741, and died on 11 May 1811 at age 69.
127. Rachel JOUBERT, daughter of Pierre JOUBERT (Stamvader) and Isabeau RICHARD, was born circa 1710.
Rachel married Dirk Willem CRAFFORD (Stamvader) on 22 Jan 1730 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Rachel next married Gerrit VAN DEVENTER, son of Gerrit Jansz VAN DEVENTER (Stamvader) and Arriaentje JACOBS, on 30 Oct 1744. Rachel next married Johannes Albertus VAN EMMENES on 24 Aug 1754 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Eighth Generation (5th Great-Grandparents)
150. Barendt Jansz COCHET .
Barendt married Jannetje Joosse VAN VOOREN.
The child from this marriage was: i. Sara Barendts COCHET
151. Jannetje Joosse VAN VOOREN .
Jannetje married Barendt Jansz COCHET.
162. Adam LINDENHOVIUS .
Adam married Anna KEMENERUS.
The child from this marriage was: i. Margaretha Geertruyd LINDENHOVIUS
163. Anna KEMENERUS .
Anna married Adam LINDENHOVIUS.
188. Roelof Adriaensz VAN WYK died after 1686 in Cape Colony.
Roelof married Trjinje JANS.
The child from this marriage was: i. Arie VAN WYK (Stamvader)
189. Trjinje JANS died after 1686 in Cape Colony.
Trjinje married Roelof Adriaensz VAN WYK.
190. Hans HELM (Stamvader) was born in Netherlands and died in Cape Colony.
Hans married Geertruy WILLEMSE.
Children from this marriage were: i. Margaretha HELM was born in 1670 and was christened on 21 Jun 1671 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Dirkje HELM was born in 1671, was christened on 18 Jan 1672, and died in 1767 in Home of Claas Claasen at age 96. iii. Cornelia HELM iv. Maria HELM was born in 1675 and was christened on 24 Nov 1675. v. Geertruy HELM was born in 1678 and was christened on 29 Oct 1678.
191. Geertruy WILLEMSE .
Geertruy married Hans HELM (Stamvader).
Geertruy next married Gerrit JANZ (Stamvader) on 19 Mar 1690 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was: i. Johanna JANSEN was born in 1690 and was christened on 28 May 1690 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
194. Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader), son of Schalk Willemsz VAN DER MERWE and Unknown, was born in 1643 in Netherlands and died on 12 Jul 1716 in Cape Colony at age 73.
Willem married Elsje CLOETE on 9 Sep 1668 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Sophia VAN DER MERWE was born in 1670 and was christened on 2 Nov 1670 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Schalk VAN DER MERWE iii. Marritje VAN DER MERWE was born in 1675 and was christened on 29 Dec 1675 in Cape Town, Cape Province. Another name for Marritje was Maria. iv. Jacoba Jacomina VAN DER MERWE was born in 1678 and was christened on 22 May 1678. v. Jacob VAN DER MERWE was born in 1680 and was christened on 11 Feb 1680. vi. Petronella VAN DER MERWE was born in 1682 and was christened on 1 Mar 1682. vii. Aaltje VAN DER MERWE viii. Helena VAN DER MERWE was born in 1686 and was christened on 7 Apr 1686. Another name for Helena was Lena. ix. Pieter VAN DER MERWE was born in 1688 and was christened on 16 May 1688 in Cape Town, Cape Province. x. Magteld VAN DER MERWE xi. Ulya VAN DER MERWE was born in 1696 and was christened on 28 May 1696 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province. xii. Elsje VAN DER MERWE was born in 1697, was christened on 15 Jul 1697, and died on 18 Dec 1745 at age 48. xiii. Hendrik Willem VAN DER MERWE was born in 1698, was christened on 17 Aug 1698, and died on 23 Sep 1762 at age 64.
195. Elsje CLOETE, daughter of Jacob CLOETE (Stamvader) and Sophia RADEROOTJES, was born circa 1650 in Germany.
Elsje married Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) on 9 Sep 1668 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
196. Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader), son of Schalk Willemsz VAN DER MERWE and Unknown, was born in 1643 in Netherlands and died on 12 Jul 1716 in Cape Colony at age 73. (Duplicate. See Person 194 on Page 1)
197. Elsje CLOETE, daughter of Jacob CLOETE (Stamvader) and Sophia RADEROOTJES, was born circa 1650 in Germany. (Duplicate. See Person 195 on Page 1)
198. Charles PREVOST (Stamvader), son of Henri PREVOST and Jeanne DE FIEF, was born in 1650 in Dombray, Saint-Amand-les-Eau, France and died in Jul 1688 in Cape of Good Hope at age 38.
Charles married Marie LE FEBRE on 8 Oct 1673 in Guines, Calais, France.
Children from this marriage were: i. David PREVOST was born on 10 Mar 1675 in Marcq, France and died on 9 Feb 1685 in Marcq, France at age 9. ii. Marie PREVOST was born on 10 Feb 1678 in Marcq, France, was christened on 17 Feb 1678 in Calais, France, and died as an infant. iii. Abraham PREVOST was born on 24 May 1679 in Marcq, France. iv. Anne PREVOST v. Isabeau PREVOST was born on 31 Oct 1683 in Les Attaques, Marcq, France and died on 18 Jan 1750 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 66. vi. Jacques PREVOST was born on 29 May 1688 on the ship "De Schelde" and died circa 1690 in Cape Colony at age 2.
199. Marie LE FEBRE, daughter of David LE FEBRE (Stamvader) and Isabeau LE BLUE, was born circa 1651 in Marcq, France and died circa 1701 in Cape of Good Hope at age 50.
Marie married Charles PREVOST (Stamvader) on 8 Oct 1673 in Guines, Calais, France.
Marie next married Heinrich ECKHOFF (Stamvader) on 29 Aug 1688.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Matthys Hendrik ECKHOFF was born circa 1690 and died circa 1721 at age 31.
Marie next married Louis DE PERONNE (Stamvader) on 19 Oct 1692 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Maria Magdalena DE PERONNE was born circa 1694.
Marie next married Hercule DES PREZ, son of Hercule DES PREZ (Stamvader) and Cécile D'ATIS, in 1696.
206. Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader), son of Schalk Willemsz VAN DER MERWE and Unknown, was born in 1643 in Netherlands and died on 12 Jul 1716 in Cape Colony at age 73. (Duplicate. See Person 194 on Page 1)
207. Elsje CLOETE, daughter of Jacob CLOETE (Stamvader) and Sophia RADEROOTJES, was born circa 1650 in Germany. (Duplicate. See Person 195 on Page 1)
208. Berndt BURCHERDT (Stamvader) died in 1705.
Berndt married Marritje VAN DER MERWE.
Children from this marriage were: i. Barend BURGER was born in 1692 and was christened on 7 Sep 1692. ii. Willem BURGER iii. Andries BURGER iv. Helena BURGER was born in 1701 and was christened on 8 Jul 1701. v. Jacobus BURGER was born in 1704 and was christened on 3 Apr 1704.
209. Marritje VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) and Elsje CLOETE, was born in 1675 and was christened on 29 Dec 1675 in Cape Town, Cape Province. Another name for Marritje was Maria.
Marritje married Berndt BURCHERDT (Stamvader).
210. Schalk VAN DER MERWE, son of Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) and Elsje CLOETE, was born on 14 Jul 1673, was christened on 13 Aug 1673 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in 1740 in Cape Colony at age 67. (Duplicate. See Person 98 on Page 1)
211. Anne PREVOST, daughter of Charles PREVOST (Stamvader) and Marie LE FEBRE, was born on 18 Feb 1681 in Marcq, France and died circa 1745 in Cape Colony at age 64. (Duplicate. See Person 99 on Page 1)
212. Johannes SMIT (Stamvader) was born circa 1652 in Maastricht, Netherlands and died in Oct 1696 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 44. The cause of his death was Stab wounds. Another name for Johannes was Jan SMIT.
Johannes had a relationship with Lucretia VAN SENNEN. Marriage status: unmarried.
Their child was:
i. Christoffel SMIT was born in 1680 and was christened on 19 Nov 1680 in Delft, Netherlands.
Johannes married Adriana TOL on 4 Jan 1682 in Schipluiden, Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Joannis SMIT was born in 1683, was christened on 10 Jan 1683 in Delft, Netherlands, and died in Jul 1714 in Cape Colony at age 31. ii. Christoffel SMIT was born in 1688 and was christened on 9 May 1688 in Cape Town, Cape Province. iii. Jacobus SMIT iv. Hilletje SMIT was born in 1691, was christened on 1 Apr 1691 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in Jan 1761 in Cape Colony at age 70. v. Francois SMIT was born in 1693 in Cape Colony and died before 7 Sep 1758 in Cape Colony. vi. Alewyn SMIT vii. Johanna SMIT was born circa 1700 and was christened on 20 Jun 1700 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
213. Adriana TOL, daughter of Jacob Alewijnz TOL and Lijsbet Dircx VAN DER PIET, was born in 1656, was christened on 16 Jul 1656 in Delft, Netherlands, and died after 1722 in Cape Colony.
Adriana married Johannes SMIT (Stamvader) on 4 Jan 1682 in Schipluiden, Netherlands.
Adriana next married.
Adriana next married Andreas KUYPER on 11 Jan 1705 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
214. Peter BECKER (Stamvader) was born in 1673 in Germany and died between 1742 and 1747 in Robben Island, Cape Town. Another name for Peter was Pieter BEKKER.
Peter married Jeanne DE CLERQ.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Gideon BECKER was born in 1698 and died circa 1700 at age 2. ii. Hester BEKKER iii. Helena BEKKER was born in 1701 and was christened on 24 Dec 1701. iv. Stephanus BEKKER was born in 1705 and was christened on 16 Aug 1705 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province. v. Dorothea Maria BEKKER was born circa 1708 and died in 1770 at age 62. vi. Marthinus BEKKER was born in 1710, was christened on 14 Dec 1710 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died before 1753.
215. Jeanne DE CLERQ, daughter of Pierre DE CLERQ and Sara Barendts COCHET, was born in 1676 in Middelburg, Zeeland, Netherlands and was christened on 3 May 1676 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands. Another name for Jeanne was Johanna.
Jeanne married Peter BECKER (Stamvader).
Jeanne next married Andre GOUWS (Stamvader), son of Pierre GOUWS and Unknown, on 19 Aug 1691 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Pieter GOUWS was born circa 1693. ii. Sara GOUWS was born in 1694. iii. Jeanne GOUWS was born in 1695 and was christened on 25 Sep 1695. iv. Andries GOUWS was born in 1698.
Jeanne had a relationship with Mattheus DE MAKER. This couple did not marry.
Their child was: i. Johanna DE MAKER was born in 1714 and was christened on 30 Sep 1714 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
220. Berndt BURCHERDT (Stamvader) died in 1705. (Duplicate. See Person 208 on Page 1)
221. Marritje VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) and Elsje CLOETE, was born in 1675 and was christened on 29 Dec 1675 in Cape Town, Cape Province. Another name for Marritje was Maria. (Duplicate. See Person 209 on Page 1)
222. Schalk VAN DER MERWE, son of Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) and Elsje CLOETE, was born on 14 Jul 1673, was christened on 13 Aug 1673 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in 1740 in Cape Colony at age 67. (Duplicate. See Person 98 on Page 1)
223. Anne PREVOST, daughter of Charles PREVOST (Stamvader) and Marie LE FEBRE, was born on 18 Feb 1681 in Marcq, France and died circa 1745 in Cape Colony at age 64. (Duplicate. See Person 99 on Page 1)
228. Pierre DE CLERQ, son of Abraham DE CLERQ and Adriaenken Joos ONOFF, was born in 1643 in Netherlands, was christened on 4 Oct 1643 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands, and died between Oct 1678 and May 1686 in De Wal, Middelburg, Zeeland, Netherlands.
Pierre married Sara Barendts COCHET before 1670 in Netherlands.
229. Sara Barendts COCHET, daughter of Barendt Jansz COCHET and Jannetje Joosse VAN VOOREN, was born circa 1652 in Oosterhoebrug, Walcheren, Netherlands and died in Apr 1714 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 62. (Duplicate. See Person 75 on Page 1)
230. Jacques MOUTON (Stamvader) died in 1731.
Jacques married Catherine L'HERMITE. The marriage ended in divorce.
Jacques next married Marie DE VILLIERS in Flanders.
Children from this marriage were: i. Madeleine MOUTON ii. Marie MOUTON was born circa 1690 in Middelburg, Zeeland, Netherlands and died on 30 Aug 1714 in Executed at age 24. iii. Marguerite MOUTON was born in Apr 1699 on the ship "Donkervliet", was christened on 26 Jul 1699 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in 1732 in Cape Colony at age 33.
Jacques next married Francina BEVERNAGIE, daughter of (Unknown) BEVERNAGIE and Unknown, on 8 Oct 1700 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Abraham MOUTON was born in 1701 and was christened on 22 Jan 1702 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Jacob MOUTON was born in 1705 and was christened on 25 Apr 1706. iii. Martha MOUTON was born in 1709 and was christened on 12 May 1709. iv. Izak MOUTON was born in 1710 and was christened on 29 Mar 1711. v. Johanna MOUTON was born in 1713 and was christened on 17 Dec 1713. vi. Cornelia MOUTON vii. Susanna MOUTON was born in 1703 and was christened on 7 Oct 1703 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
231. Marie DE VILLIERS, daughter of Jean DE VILLIERS and Francoise JOING, was born on 9 Nov 1673, was christened on 12 Nov 1673 in Guines, Calais, France, and died in Apr 1699 on the ship "Donkervliet" at age 25.
Marie married Jacques MOUTON (Stamvader) in Flanders.
232. Johannes SMIT (Stamvader) was born circa 1652 in Maastricht, Netherlands and died in Oct 1696 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 44. The cause of his death was Stab wounds. Another name for Johannes was Jan SMIT. (Duplicate. See Person 212 on Page 1)
233. Adriana TOL, daughter of Jacob Alewijnz TOL and Lijsbet Dircx VAN DER PIET, was born in 1656, was christened on 16 Jul 1656 in Delft, Netherlands, and died after 1722 in Cape Colony. (Duplicate. See Person 213 on Page 1)
234. Floris SLABBERT (Stamvader), son of Maerten Adriaensen SLABBERT and Janneken LORMYE, was born in 1656, was christened on 7 Oct 1656 in Aagtekerke, Zeeland, Netherlands, and died circa 1732 in Cape Colony at age 76.
Floris married Huibrecht JASPERSE on 15 Apr 1684 in Aagtekerke, Zeeland, Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were: i. Neeltje SLABBERT was born in 1685 and was christened on 29 Apr 1685 in Meliskerke, Walcheren, Zeeland, Netherlands. ii. Jannetje SLABBERT was born circa 1687. iii. Jasper SLABBERT was born circa 1689 in Middelburg, Zeeland, Netherlands. iv. Lijsbeth SLABBERT v. Maerten SLABBERT was born in 1694, was christened on 24 Oct 1694 in Meliskerke, Walcheren, Zeeland, Netherlands, and died in 1695 in Meliskerke, Walcheren, Zeeland, Netherlands at age 1. vi. Maerten SLABBERT was born in 1696, was christened on 22 Jul 1696 in Meliskerke, Walcheren, Zeeland, Netherlands, and died in 1713 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 17. vii. Maatje SLABBERT was born in 1698, was christened on 13 Apr 1698 in Meliskerke, Walcheren, Zeeland, Netherlands, and died in 1775 in Cape Colony at age 77. viii. Pieter SLABBERT was born in 1701, was christened on 21 Aug 1701 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died after Aug 1730 in Cape Colony. ix. Gideon SLABBERT was born in 1706 and was christened on 31 Jan 1706 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
235. Huibrecht JASPERSE, daughter of Jasper JANSE and Neeltje HUYBREGTS, was born circa 1660 in Westkapelle, Netherlands and died before Nov 1730 in Cape Colony.
Huibrecht married Floris SLABBERT (Stamvader) on 15 Apr 1684 in Aagtekerke, Zeeland, Netherlands.
236. Joost Pieterz VAN DYK (Stamvader), son of (Unknown) VAN DYK and Unknown, was born in Ysenberg, Flanders and died in Cape Colony.
Joost married Catharina VERBURGH on 4 Mar 1696 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Burgert Pieter VAN DYK ii. Sybrand VAN DYK was born in 1712. iii. Andries VAN DYK was born in 1714 and was christened on 12 Aug 1714 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Joost had a relationship with Elisabeth VAN WYK, daughter of Willem VAN WYK (Stamvader) and Anna PIETERS. This couple did not marry.
Their children were: i. Willem VAN DYK was born in 1701, was christened on 24 Apr 1701 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died before 1733. ii. Johannes VAN DYK was born in 1705, was christened on 14 Jan 1705 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died circa 1706 at age 1.
237. Catharina VERBURGH .
Catharina married Joost Pieterz VAN DYK (Stamvader) on 4 Mar 1696 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
238. Johannes VISSER .
Johannes married Maria VAN NEGAPATNAM.
The child from this marriage was: i. Maria VISSER
239. Maria VAN NEGAPATNAM .
Maria married Johannes VISSER.
240. Daniel HUGOT (Stamvader), son of Jacque HUGOT and Jeanne BARBIER, was born in May 1664 in Serzey-les-Maupas, France and died in Mar 1725 in Cape Colony at age 60.
Daniel married Anne ROSSOUW in Jan 1705 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Jacques HUGO was born circa 1708 and died in 1745 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 37. Another name for Jacques was Jacob HUGO. ii. Pierre HUGO iii. Anna HUGO was born in 1714 and was christened on 14 Feb 1714. iv. Elisabeth HUGO was born in 1722, was christened on 12 Jul 1722 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died on 17 Oct 1782 at age 60. v. Daniel HUGO was born in 1724, was christened on 11 Jun 1724, and died in Nov 1754 at age 30.
241. Anne ROSSOUW, daughter of Pierre ROSSEAU (Stamvader) and Anne RETIEF, was born in 1691, was christened on 8 Jul 1691 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died on 28 Feb 1753 on farm "Bethel", Paarl at age 62.
Anne married Daniel HUGOT (Stamvader) in Jan 1705 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Anne next married Jean BLIGNAUT (Stamvader), son of Pierre BLIGNAUT and Isabeau DESORDES, on 4 Nov 1725 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Jan BLIGNAUT was born in 1728 and was christened on 20 Jun 1728. ii. Hester BLIGNAUT was born in 1729 and was christened on 7 Aug 1729. iii. Pieter BLIGNAUT was born in 1731 and was christened on 4 Feb 1731. iv. Maria Magdalena BLIGNAUT was born in 1733 and was christened on 1 Nov 1733.
242. Francois RETIEF (Stamvader) was born on 2 Feb 1663 in Mer, Blois, France and died on 13 Sep 1721 in Het Land Van Waveren, Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 58.
Francois married Marie MOUY on 2 May 1700.
Children from this marriage were: i. Marie RETIEF was born on 16 May 1702, was christened on 10 Sep 1702, and died circa 1738 at age 36. ii. Anne RETIEF iii. Francois RETIEF was born on 7 Apr 1708, was christened on 25 Jul 1708, and died circa 1789 in Wagenmakers Valley, Stellenbosch at age 81. iv. Paul RETIEF was born in 1714 and was christened on 7 Oct 1714. v. Esther RETIEF was born on 1 Feb 1719 and died on 15 Apr 1805 at age 86. vi. Magdalena RETIEF was born in 1720, was christened on 22 Dec 1720, and died on 10 Apr 1817 at age 97.
243. Marie MOUY, daughter of Pierre MOUY (Stamvader) and Unknown, was born on 15 May 1685 in France and died on 21 Sep 1758 in Het Land Van Waveren, Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 73.
Marie married Francois RETIEF (Stamvader) on 2 May 1700.
244. Schalk VAN DER MERWE, son of Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) and Elsje CLOETE, was born on 14 Jul 1673, was christened on 13 Aug 1673 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in 1740 in Cape Colony at age 67. (Duplicate. See Person 98 on Page 1)
245. Anne PREVOST, daughter of Charles PREVOST (Stamvader) and Marie LE FEBRE, was born on 18 Feb 1681 in Marcq, France and died circa 1745 in Cape Colony at age 64. (Duplicate. See Person 99 on Page 1)
246. Claas Jansz VAN RENSBURG (Stamvader) was born circa 1661 and died circa 1728 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 67. (Duplicate. See Person 102 on Page 1)
247. Aaltje VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) and Elsje CLOETE, was born on 30 Mar 1684, was christened on 23 Apr 1684 in Cape Town, Cape Province, died on 30 Sep 1729 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 45, and was buried in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province. (Duplicate. See Person 103 on Page 1)
248. Johannes PRETORIUS (Stamvader), son of Wessel Schout PRETORIUS and Josynthe Claesdochter VAN EGMOND, was born in 1642, was christened on 16 Oct 1642 in Oude Kerk, Goeree-Overflakkee, Netherlands, and died on 30 Apr 1694 in Cape Town, Cape Province at age 52.
Johannes married Geertruyda MEINTJIES on 18 Nov 1673 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Wessel PRETORIUS was born in 1674 and was christened on 3 Jun 1674 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Johannes next married Johanna VICTOR on 28 Feb 1677 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Josina PRETORIUS was born in 1678 and was christened on 27 Oct 1678 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Johannes PRETORIUS iii. Jeanetta PRETORIUS was born in 1682, was christened on 11 Oct 1682, and died before 1720. iv. Lodewyk PRETORIUS was born in 1688, was christened on 5 Sep 1688 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in Apr 1718 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 30. v. Elisabeth PRETORIUS was born in 1690 and was christened on 17 Sep 1690.
249. Johanna VICTOR, daughter of Cornelis VICTOR and Cornelia Jacoba JUNIUS, was born in 1691 and was christened on 15 Apr 1691.
Johanna married Johannes PRETORIUS (Stamvader) on 28 Feb 1677 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Johanna next married Johannes STERRENBERG on 28 Oct 1696 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
250. Johannes VOSLOO (Stamvader) was born circa 1649 in Germany and died in 1732 in Cape Town, Cape Province at age 83.
Johannes married Helena FROM MALABAR.
Children from this marriage were: i. Johannes VOSLOO was born circa 1685. ii. Martha VOSLOO was born circa 1686 and died on 3 Oct 1724 at age 38. iii. Helena VOSLOO
251. Helena FROM MALABAR .
Helena married Johannes VOSLOO (Stamvader).
254. Pierre JOUBERT (Stamvader) was born circa 1664 in La Motte d'Aigues, Provence and died on 30 Jun 1732 in Cape Colony at age 68.
Pierre married Susanne REYNE on 1 Feb 1688 in Waalse Kerk, Brielle.
Pierre next married Isabeau RICHARD in Aug 1688 on the ship "Berg China" on the way to Cape of Good Hope.
Children from this marriage were: i. Josúe JOUBERT was born circa 1689. ii. Jacques JOUBERT was born in 1691. Another name for Jacques was Jacob. iii. Isabeau JOUBERT was born in 1692. Another name for Isabeau was Elizabeth. iv. Pierre JOUBERT was born in 1694 and died before Sep 1730. v. Jean JOUBERT was born in 1695, was christened on 7 Dec 1795 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died before 16 Mar 1738. vi. Francoise JOUBERT was born in 1697 and was christened on 11 Nov 1697 in Paarl, Cape Province. Another name for Francoise was Francina. vii. Louise JOUBERT was born in 1699, was christened on 6 Dec 1699 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died circa 1764 at age 65. viii. Gideon JOUBERT was born on 14 Aug 1704 and died in 1738 at age 34. ix. Maria JOUBERT was born circa 1704 and died before 24 Apr 1746. x. Francois JOUBERT was born in 1706, was christened on 28 Nov 1706 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died in 1758 at age 52. xi. Rachel JOUBERT
255. Isabeau RICHARD was born in 1668 in France and died in 1748 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 80.
Isabeau married Pierre MALAN (Stamvader).
Isabeau next married Pierre JOUBERT (Stamvader) in Aug 1688 on the ship "Berg China" on the way to Cape of Good Hope.
Ninth Generation (6th Great-Grandparents)
388. Schalk Willemsz VAN DER MERWE, son of Willem VAN DER MERWE and Unknown, was born circa 1620 in Netherlands.
Schalk married.
His children were: i. Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) ii. Dirk Schalksz VAN DER MERWE was born in 1648 in Netherlands. iii. Joost Schalksz VAN DER MERWE
390. Jacob CLOETE (Stamvader) was born in Germany and died on 23 May 1693 in Cape Colony.
Jacob married Sophia RADEROOTJES.
Children from this marriage were: i. Elsje CLOETE ii. Gerrit CLOETE was born circa 1652 in Germany. Another name for Gerrit was Gerhard Jacobus CLOETE. iii. Catharina CLOETE was born in 1660 and was christened on 4 Apr 1660 in Cape Town, Cape Province. iv. Coenraad CLOETE was born in 1663 and was christened on 23 Apr 1663 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
391. Sophia RADEROOTJES, daughter of (Unknown) RADEROOTJES and Unknown. Another name for Sophia is Fytjie RADEROOTJES.
Sophia married Jacob CLOETE (Stamvader).
396. Henri PREVOST .
Henri married Jeanne DE FIEF.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Charles PREVOST (Stamvader) ii. Jeanne PREVOST
397. Jeanne DE FIEF .
Jeanne married Henri PREVOST.
398. David LE FEBRE (Stamvader) .
David married Isabeau LE BLUE.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Marie LE FEBRE
399. Isabeau LE BLUE died in 1678 in Linques, Ardres, France.
Isabeau married David LE FEBRE (Stamvader).
Isabeau next married Henri RIARE.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Marie RIARE
418. Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader), son of Schalk Willemsz VAN DER MERWE and Unknown, was born in 1643 in Netherlands and died on 12 Jul 1716 in Cape Colony at age 73. (Duplicate. See Person 194 on Page 1)
419. Elsje CLOETE, daughter of Jacob CLOETE (Stamvader) and Sophia RADEROOTJES, was born circa 1650 in Germany. (Duplicate. See Person 195 on Page 1)
426. Jacob Alewijnz TOL, son of Alewijn Jacobsz TOL and Maritgen JOOSTEN, was born circa 1607, died in Sep 1662 in Delft, Netherlands at age 55, and was buried on 10 Sep 1662 in Sint Joris Kapel, Oude Kerk, Delft.
Jacob married Lijsbet Dircx VAN DER PIET on 3 Mar 1647 in Delft, Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were: i. Marija TOL was born in 1647, was christened on 15 Dec 1647 in Delft, Netherlands, and died in 1669 in Delft, Netherlands at age 22. ii. Adriana TOL was born in 1649, was christened on 29 Jul 1649 in Delft, Netherlands, died in 1652 in Delft, Netherlands at age 3, and was buried on 16 Feb 1652 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. iii. Elsje TOL was born in 1651, was christened on 2 Mar 1651 in Delft, Netherlands, died in 1652 in Delft, Netherlands at age 1, and was buried on 14 Sep 1652 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. iv. Alewijn TOL was born in 1654, was christened on 8 Mar 1654 in Delft, Netherlands, died in 1674 in Delft, Netherlands at age 20, and was buried on 7 Mar 1674 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. v. Adriana TOL vi. Dirck TOL was born in 1658, was christened on 8 Dec 1658 in Delft, Netherlands, and died after 1684. vii. Willem Jacobsz TOL was born in 1660 and was christened on 9 Dec 1660 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
427. Lijsbet Dircx VAN DER PIET, daughter of Dirck Tonisz VAN DER PIET and Ariaentgen PLEUNIS, was born in 1626 in Delft, Netherlands, was christened on 22 Nov 1626 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands, died in Mar 1692 in Delft, Netherlands at age 66, and was buried on 18 Mar 1692 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
Lijsbet married Jacob Alewijnz TOL on 3 Mar 1647 in Delft, Netherlands.
430. Pierre DE CLERQ, son of Abraham DE CLERQ and Adriaenken Joos ONOFF, was born in 1643 in Netherlands, was christened on 4 Oct 1643 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands, and died between Oct 1678 and May 1686 in De Wal, Middelburg, Zeeland, Netherlands. (Duplicate. See Person 228 on Page 1)
431. Sara Barendts COCHET, daughter of Barendt Jansz COCHET and Jannetje Joosse VAN VOOREN, was born circa 1652 in Oosterhoebrug, Walcheren, Netherlands and died in Apr 1714 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 62. (Duplicate. See Person 75 on Page 1)
456. Abraham DE CLERQ was born in Westzouburg, Netherlands and died in Netherlands.
Abraham married Adriaenken Joos ONOFF.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Susanna DE CLERQ was born in 1631 and was christened on 5 Oct 1631 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands. ii. Aernout DE CLERQ was born on 8 Oct 1635 and was christened on 9 Oct 1635 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands. iii. Stoffelinjtje DE CLERQ was born on 3 Jan 1638 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands. iv. Susanneken DE CLERQ was born on 12 May 1641 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands. v. Pierre DE CLERQ vi. Adriaenken DE CLERQ was born on 2 Apr 1646 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands.
457. Adriaenken Joos ONOFF .
Adriaenken married Abraham DE CLERQ.
462. Jean DE VILLIERS .
Jean married Francoise JOING.
The child from this marriage was: i. Marie DE VILLIERS
463. Francoise JOING .
Francoise married Jean DE VILLIERS.
468. Maerten Adriaensen SLABBERT .
Maerten married Janneken LORMYE.
Children from this marriage were: i. Pieter SLABBERT ii. Gideon SLABBERT was born in 1659 and was christened on 15 Jun 1659 in Aagtekerke, Zeeland, Netherlands. iii. Floris SLABBERT (Stamvader) iv. Jeremias SLABBERT was born in 1654, was christened on 27 Sep 1654 in Aagtekerke, Zeeland, Netherlands, and died before Sep 1733 in Netherlands.
469. Janneken LORMYE .
Janneken married Maerten Adriaensen SLABBERT.
470. Jasper JANSE died in 1718 in Netherlands.
Jasper married Neeltje HUYBREGTS.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Huibrecht JASPERSE ii. Matje JASPERSE was born circa 1663.
471. Neeltje HUYBREGTS .
Neeltje married Jasper JANSE.
472. (Unknown) VAN DYK .
(Unknown) married.
His children were:
i. Burgert Pieters VAN DYK (Stamvader) was born in Ysenberg, Flanders and died in 1723 in farm "Leeuwenhoek", Drakenstein, Cape Province. ii. Joost Pieterz VAN DYK (Stamvader)
480. Jacque HUGOT .
Jacque married Jeanne BARBIER.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Daniel HUGOT (Stamvader)
481. Jeanne BARBIER .
Jeanne married Jacque HUGOT.
482. Pierre ROSSEAU (Stamvader) was born circa 1666 in Mer, Loire, France and died circa 1719 in Het Land Van Waveren, Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 53.
Pierre married Anne RETIEF circa 1689.
Children from this marriage were: i. Anne ROSSOUW ii. Marie ROSSOUW was born in 1693 in Paarl, Cape Province. iii. Magdalene ROSSOUW was born in 1695, was christened on 26 Feb 1695 in Paarl, Cape Province, died on 2 Oct 1780 in Het Land Van Waveren, Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 85, and was buried in Tulbagh, Cape Province. iv. Elisabeth ROSSOUW was born in 1696, was christened on 14 Oct 1696, and died on 15 Feb 1785 at age 89. v. Martha ROSSOUW was born in 1698, was christened on 28 Jul 1698 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died on 28 Oct 1760 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 62. vi. Pierre ROSSOUW was born in 1700, was christened on 3 May 1700, and died before 1703. vii. Gabriel ROSSOUW was born in 1701, was christened on 14 Aug 1701 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died on 2 Jan 1727 at age 26. viii. Aletta ROSSOUW was born in 1702. ix. Pierre ROSSOUW was born in 1703 and was christened on 2 Sep 1703. Another name for Pierre was Pieter ROSSOUW. x. Daniel ROSSOUW was born in 1707 and was christened on 9 Oct 1707.
Pierre next married Geertruy DU TOIT, daughter of Francois DU TOIT (Stamvader) and Susanne SEUGNET, on 7 Dec 1710 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
483. Anne RETIEF was born circa 1667 in Mer In Orleans, France and died circa 1710 in Cape Colony at age 43.
Anne married Pierre ROSSEAU (Stamvader) circa 1689.
486. Pierre MOUY (Stamvader) died in 1735 in Cape Colony.
Pierre married.
His children were: i. Jeanne MOUY was born circa 1683 in France. ii. Marie MOUY
496. Wessel Schout PRETORIUS, son of Barend Wesselzoon SCHULTE and Aaltje JANSDOCHTER, was born in Oct 1614 in Leiden, Netherlands and died in 1664 in Emmerik, Netherlands at age 50.
Wessel married Josynthe Claesdochter VAN EGMOND on 16 Jun 1641 in Haarlem, Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were: i. Johannes PRETORIUS (Stamvader) ii. Catharina PRETORIUS was born in 1644 in Netherlands. iii. Maria PRETORIUS was born in 1645 in Netherlands. iv. Barnardus PRETORIUS was born in 1649 in Netherlands. v. Alida PRETORIUS was born in 1650 in Netherlands. vi. Anna Margaretha PRETORIUS was born in 1652 in Netherlands. vii. Hester PRETORIUS was born in 1653 in Netherlands.
497. Josynthe Claesdochter VAN EGMOND .
Josynthe married Wessel Schout PRETORIUS on 16 Jun 1641 in Haarlem, Netherlands.
498. Cornelis VICTOR, son of Gerrit VICTOR (Stamvader) and Christina VAN DEN BERG, was born in 1667 and was christened on 26 Oct 1667.
Cornelis married Cornelia Jacoba JUNIUS on 8 Aug 1688.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Johanna VICTOR was born in 1689, was christened on 26 Jun 1689, and died circa 1691 at age 2. ii. Agatha VICTOR was born in 1693 and was christened on 25 Dec 1693. iii. Gerrit VICTOR was born circa 1695. iv. Christiaan VICTOR was born circa 1697. v. Wynand VICTOR was born circa 1699 in Cape Colony. vi. Johanna VICTOR
499. Cornelia Jacoba JUNIUS .
Cornelia married Cornelis VICTOR on 8 Aug 1688.
Tenth Generation (7th Great-Grandparents)
776. Willem VAN DER MERWE .
Willem married.
His children were:
i. Schalk Willemsz VAN DER MERWE ii. Pieter Willemsz VAN DER MERWE was born circa 1622. iii. Dirck Willemsz VAN DER MERWE
782. (Unknown) RADEROOTJES .
(Unknown) married.
His children were:
i. Sophia RADEROOTJES ii. Peter RADEROOTJES
852. Alewijn Jacobsz TOL, son of Jacob ALEWIJNSZ and Unknown, died in 1621 and was buried on 5 Jul 1621 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
Alewijn married Maritgen JOOSTEN on 20 Aug 1606 in Delft, Netherlands.
The child from this marriage was: i. Jacob Alewijnz TOL
853. Maritgen JOOSTEN died in 1644 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 25 Aug 1644 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
Maritgen married Alewijn Jacobsz TOL on 20 Aug 1606 in Delft, Netherlands.
Maritgen next married Jacob Gillisz VAN HASSEL on 2 Jan 1622 in Delft, Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were: i. Alewijn VAN HASSEL was born in 1622 in Delft, Netherlands, was christened on 27 Oct 1622 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands, died in Nov 1622 in Delft, Netherlands, and was buried on 10 Nov 1622 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. ii. Aernout Jacobsz VAN HASSEL was born in 1622, was christened on 27 Oct 1622 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands, died in Feb 1650 in Delft, Netherlands at age 28, and was buried on 21 Feb 1650 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. iii. Alewijn VAN HASSEL was born in 1626, was christened on 7 Jan 1626 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands, died in 1626 in Delft, Netherlands, and was buried on 7 Apr 1626 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
Maritgen next married Dirck Cornelisz BUIJCK on 27 Mar 1639 in Delft, Netherlands.
854. Dirck Tonisz VAN DER PIET, son of Tonis Symonsz VAN DER PIET and Lysbetge DIRCX, died in Dec 1660 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 1 Jan 1661 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
Dirck married Ariaentgen PLEUNIS on 22 Dec 1619 in Delft, Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were: i. Engeltje VAN DER PIET was born in 1620, was christened on 6 Dec 1620 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands, died in Apr 1699 in Delft, Netherlands at age 79, and was buried on 29 Apr 1699 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. ii. Pleunis VAN DER PIET was born in 1623, was christened on 19 Feb 1623 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands, died in Aug 1669 in Delft, Netherlands at age 46, and was buried on 21 Aug 1669 in Sint Joris Kapel, Oude Kerk, Delft. iii. Applonia VAN DER PIET was born in 1624 and was christened on 26 Jul 1624 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. iv. Lijsbet Dircx VAN DER PIET v. Gerrit VAN DER PIET was born in 1632, was christened on 12 Apr 1632 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands, died in Sep 1701 in Delft, Netherlands at age 69, and was buried on 27 Sep 1701 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. vi. Grietge VAN DER PIET was born in 1634, was christened on 29 Oct 1634 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands, and died before 1658 in Delft, Netherlands. vii. Anthonij VAN DER PIET was born in 1636 and was christened on 13 Jan 1636 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. viii. Arrijantgen VAN DER PIET was born circa 1640.
Dirck next married Ariaentgen TIJSSEN on 31 May 1656 in Delft, Netherlands.
855. Ariaentgen PLEUNIS, daughter of Pleunis JOOSTEN and Engeltgen ARIENTS, died in Nov 1655 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 26 Nov 1655 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
Ariaentgen married Dirck Tonisz VAN DER PIET on 22 Dec 1619 in Delft, Netherlands.
992. Barend Wesselzoon SCHULTE was born in 1596 in Schuttorf, Hannover, Germany and died on 23 Oct 1669 in Leiden, Netherlands at age 73.
Barend married Aaltje JANSDOCHTER on 6 May 1612 in Leiden, Netherlands.
The child from this marriage was: i. Wessel Schout PRETORIUS
Barend next married Annetgen Jacobsdochter VAN EGMOND on 19 Apr 1643 in Leiden, Netherlands.
993. Aaltje JANSDOCHTER was born circa 1596 and died circa 1642 in Leiden, Netherlands at age 46.
Aaltje married Barend Wesselzoon SCHULTE on 6 May 1612 in Leiden, Netherlands.
996. Gerrit VICTOR (Stamvader) .
Gerrit married Christina VAN DEN BERG on 16 Jan 1667.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Cornelis VICTOR ii. Jacobus VICTOR was born circa 1669 in Negombo, Ceylon.
997. Christina VAN DEN BERG . Another name for Christina is Styntje VAN DEN BERG.
Christina married Gerrit VICTOR (Stamvader) on 16 Jan 1667.
11th Generation (8th Great-Grandparents)
1704. Jacob ALEWIJNSZ died in 1608 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 10 Jan 1608 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
Jacob married.
His children were: i. Alewijn Jacobsz TOL ii. Maritgen Jacobsdochter TOL died in 1633 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 22 Dec 1633 in North Transept, in the Choir, Nieuwe Kerk, Delft. iii. Sara Jacobsdochter TOL died on 9 Sep 1642 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 12 Sep 1642 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. iv. Jannetgen Jacobsdochter TOL died in May 1636 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 28 May 1636 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. v. Willem Jacobsz TOL died in Mar 1622 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 7 Mar 1622 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
1708. Tonis Symonsz VAN DER PIET died in Aug 1636 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 6 Aug 1636 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
Tonis married Lysbetge DIRCX on 5 Jul 1586 in Delft, Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were: i. Simon Tonisz VAN DER PIET ii. Dirck Tonisz VAN DER PIET iii. Davit Tonisz VAN DER PIET died in 1667 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 12 Jan 1667 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. iv. Bastiaen Antonisz VAN DER PIET v. Willempge Teunis VAN DER PIET vi. Maertge Thonisdochter VAN DER PIET
Tonis next married Duijfgen CRIJNEN on 20 Mar 1622 in Delft, Netherlands.
1709. Lysbetge DIRCX .
Lysbetge married Tonis Symonsz VAN DER PIET on 5 Jul 1586 in Delft, Netherlands.
1710. Pleunis JOOSTEN was born in 1567 in Rotterdam, Netherlands, died in Jun 1618 in Delft, Netherlands at age 51, and was buried on 26 Jun 1618 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
Pleunis married Engeltgen ARIENTS on 4 Apr 1587 in Delft, Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Gerrit Pleunisz FIJCK died in May 1628 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 5 May 1628 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. ii. Ariaentgen PLEUNIS
Pleunis next married Trijntgen WIJBRANTS on 20 Jan 1602 in Delft, Netherlands.
1711. Engeltgen ARIENTS died in Oct 1601 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 10 Oct 1601 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
Engeltgen married Pleunis JOOSTEN on 4 Apr 1587 in Delft, Netherlands.
Boodskap 2b. Re: ( Reminder for Burger History going back to Brendt Burchultz 16 Posted by: "David Jamieson" [email protected] davidkjamieson Sat Jan 5, 2008 7:46 am (PST)
Cornel Viljoen
Ek doen reeds baie jare lank navorsing oor die Van Niekerk families van die Vrystaat. Ek het my databasis nagegaan en deel met graagte die kwartierstaat van oud president Gerrit Jacobus Van Niekerk, gebore 6 Julie 1849.
Geliewe my te kontak indien enige persone nog verdere Van Niekerk inligting benodig rondom die Van Niekerks van die Vrystaat.
Groete uit n baie warm Melbourne, Cornel Viljoen
------Ancestors of Gert Jacobus VAN NIEKERK ------
First Generation
1. Gert Jacobus VAN NIEKERK, son of Johannes Anthonie VAN NIEKERK and Martha Maria VAN HEERDEN, was born on 6 Jul 1849, was christened on 21 Nov 1849 in Fauresmith, Free State, and died on 23 Oct 1896 in Pretoria, Transvaal at age 47.
Gert married Hester Cecilia ROOS.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Martha Maria VAN NIEKERK was born on 9 Apr 1873 and died on 17 Sep 1953 at age 80.
Second Generation (Parents)
2. Johannes Anthonie VAN NIEKERK, son of Gerrit VAN NIEKERK and Maria Adriana TAS, was born on 30 Sep 1822 and was christened on 24 Nov 1822 in Graaff- Reinet, Cape Province.
Johannes married Martha Maria VAN HEERDEN on 18 Dec 1843 in Colesberg, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Gert Jacobus VAN NIEKERK ii. Maria Adriana VAN NIEKERK was born on 8 Sep 1851 and was christened on 24 Nov 1851 in Fauresmith, Free State.
Johannes next married Maria Catharina DU PLOOY on 22 May 1865 in Hopetown, Cape Province.
3. Martha Maria VAN HEERDEN, daughter of Schalk Willem VAN HEERDEN and Rachel Johanna Catharina ERASMUS, was born on 10 Apr 1828, was christened on 7 Jul 1828 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died in 1858 at age 30.
Martha married Johannes Anthonie VAN NIEKERK on 18 Dec 1843 in Colesberg, Cape Province.
Third Generation (Grandparents)
4. Gerrit VAN NIEKERK, son of Jan Albert VAN NIEKERK and Helena Elisabeth OBERHOLZER, was born in 1766 and was christened on 24 Aug 1766 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Gerrit married Maria Adriana TAS on 23 Mar 1794.
Children from this marriage were: i. Gerrit Jacobus VAN NIEKERK was born in 1795 and was christened on 24 May 1795 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. ii. Jan Albert VAN NIEKERK was born in 1801 and was christened on 8 Mar 1801 in Cape Town, Cape Province. iii. Adam Adriaan VAN NIEKERK was born in 1802, was christened on 14 Nov 1802, and died on 27 Jun 1871 in farm "Pienaarspoort", Fauresmith at age 69. iv. Gileam Michiel VAN NIEKERK was born on 8 Jan 1804 and was christened on 21 May 1804 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. v. Pieter Johannes VAN NIEKERK was born on 24 Nov 1807 and was christened on 27 Dec 1807 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. vi. Izaak David VAN NIEKERK was born on 27 Apr 1810 and was christened on 16 Sep 1810 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. vii. Jacoba Johanna VAN NIEKERK was born on 19 Jul 1812, was christened on 20 Sep 1812 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 13 Mar 1869 in farm "Holpan", Jacobsdal, Free State at age 56. viii. Helena Elisabeth VAN NIEKERK was born on 14 Aug 1813, was christened on 19 Nov 1813 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 9 Jan 1873 in farm "Broekpoort", Bethulie at age 59. ix. Maria Adriana VAN NIEKERK was born on 18 Feb 1815 and was christened on 19 Mar 1815 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. x. Frederik Christiaan VAN NIEKERK was born on 27 Aug 1817 and was christened on 12 Oct 1817 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. xi. Johannes Anthonie VAN NIEKERK
5. Maria Adriana TAS, daughter of Adam TAS and Jacoba WAGENAAR, was born in 1779 and was christened on 21 Feb 1779.
Maria married Gerrit VAN NIEKERK on 23 Mar 1794.
Maria next married Christoffel VILJOEN, son of Johannes Hendricus VILJOEN and Anna Francina JOUBERT, on 21 Dec 1833 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province.
6. Schalk Willem VAN HEERDEN, son of Carel Jacobus VAN HEERDEN and Martha BURGER, was born on 27 Feb 1801 and was christened on 1 Nov 1801 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Schalk married Rachel Johanna Catharina ERASMUS on 3 Nov 1822 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Aletta Elsie Elisabeth VAN HEERDEN was born on 11 Nov 1823 and was christened on 26 Dec 1823 in Tulbagh, Cape Province. ii. Martha Maria VAN HEERDEN iii. Francois Alewyn VAN HEERDEN was born on 20 Dec 1829 and was christened on 29 Jan 1830 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. iv. Schalk Willem VAN HEERDEN was born in 1834. v. Elsie Wilhelmina VAN HEERDEN was born circa 1836. vi. Petrus Paulus Jacobus VAN HEERDEN was born in 1837 and died in 1904 at age 67. vii. Rachel Johanna Catharina VAN HEERDEN was born circa 1840. viii. Jacoba VAN HEERDEN was born circa 1842. ix. Carolina VAN HEERDEN was born circa 1845. x. George Sebastiaan VAN HEERDEN was born circa 1847.
7. Rachel Johanna Catharina ERASMUS, daughter of Francois Alewyn Johannes ERASMUS and Aletta Elisabeth HUGO, was born on 31 Mar 1807, was christened on 28 Aug 1807 in Tulbagh, Cape Province, and died in 1860 in Hopetown, Cape Province at age 53.
Rachel married Schalk Willem VAN HEERDEN on 3 Nov 1822 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Rachel next married Roelof Erasmus VAN HEERDEN, son of Jacobus Willem Schalk VAN HEERDEN and Anna Catharina ESTERHUIZEN.
Fourth Generation (Great-Grandparents)
8. Jan Albert VAN NIEKERK, son of Gerrit VAN NIEKERK and Anna Dorothea BRONS, was born in 1732 and was christened on 28 Sep 1732.
Jan married Helena Elisabeth OBERHOLZER on 23 Jan 1763.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Anna Dorothea VAN NIEKERK was born in 1764 and was christened on 18 Mar 1764 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Guilliam VAN NIEKERK was born in 1765 and was christened on 14 Apr 1765 in Cape Town, Cape Province. iii. Gerrit VAN NIEKERK iv. Jan Albert VAN NIEKERK was born in 1768, was christened on 2 Oct 1768 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died before 1833. v. Johanna Margaretha VAN NIEKERK was born in 1771 and was christened on 3 Mar 1771. vi. Frederik VAN NIEKERK was born in 1772 in Caledon, Cape Province, was christened on 29 Nov 1772 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died on 5 Nov 1858 in farm "Kameelfontein", Boshof, Free State at age 86. vii. Helena Elisabeth VAN NIEKERK was born in 1775 and was christened on 1 Jan 1775. viii. Jan Anthonie VAN NIEKERK was born in 1777 and was christened on 11 May 1777. ix. Cornelius Gregorius VAN NIEKERK was born on 30 Mar 1780 in Swartberg, Albert, Cape Province, was christened on 22 Apr 1781, died on 25 Oct 1852 in Modder River, Free State at age 72, and was buried in Oct 1852 in farm "Stinkfontein", Boshof, Free State. x. Maria Helena VAN NIEKERK was born in 1784 and was christened on 21 Mar 1784. xi. Michiel VAN NIEKERK was born in 1785, was christened on 30 Oct 1785 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died on 30 Dec 1839 in farm "Duvenaarsfontein", Middenveld, Cape Province at age 54. xii. Elisabeth Alida VAN NIEKERK was born in 1788 and was christened on 9 Nov 1788. xiii. Wilhelmina Petronella VAN NIEKERK was born in 1791 and was christened on 6 Mar 1791.
9. Helena Elisabeth OBERHOLZER, daughter of Guilliam OBERHOLZER and Johanna Margaretha BERGMANN, was born in 1745 and was christened on 11 Apr 1745.
Helena married Jan Albert VAN NIEKERK on 23 Jan 1763.
10. Adam TAS, son of Adam TAS and Johanna VAN BEEK, was born circa 1748 in Netherlands and died circa 1779 in Cape Colony at age 31.
Adam married Jacoba WAGENAAR on 19 Apr 1772 in Cape Colony.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Maria Adriana TAS
11. Jacoba WAGENAAR, daughter of Johannes Christoffel WAGNER (Stamvader) and Johanna Maria LUBBE, was born in 1753 and was christened on 15 May 1754.
Jacoba married Adam TAS on 19 Apr 1772 in Cape Colony.
Jacoba next married Benjamin Johannes GEEL (Stamvader) on 11 Jun 1780.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Martha Johanna GEEL was born in Sep 1783 and died on 16 Jun 1874 in Graaff- Reinet, Cape Province at age 90.
12. Carel Jacobus VAN HEERDEN, son of Carel VAN HEERDEN and Maria VAN DER MERWE, was born in 1771 in farm "Rhenosterfontein", Worcester, Cape Province, was christened on 20 Jan 1771, and died in 1838 in farm "Brakfontein", Murraysburg, Cape Province at age 67.
Carel married Cecilia Aletta VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Izaak VAN DER MERWE and Maria Magdalena BURGER, on 26 Sep 1790.
Carel next married Martha BURGER on 28 Oct 1792.
The child from this marriage was: i. Schalk Willem VAN HEERDEN
13. Martha BURGER, daughter of Barend Jacobus BURGER and Jacoba LUBBE, was born in 1778, was christened on 26 Apr 1778, and died in 1837 at age 59.
Martha married Carel Jacobus VAN HEERDEN on 28 Oct 1792.
14. Francois Alewyn Johannes ERASMUS, son of Abraham ERASMUS and Adriana SMIT, was born in 1791 and was christened on 23 Sep 1791.
Francois married Aletta Elisabeth HUGO on 23 Mar 1806 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Rachel Johanna Catharina ERASMUS
15. Aletta Elisabeth HUGO, daughter of Paulus HUGO and Rachel Johanna PRETORIUS, was born in 1788, was christened on 17 Feb 1788, and died in 1850 at age 62.
Aletta married Francois Alewyn Johannes ERASMUS on 23 Mar 1806 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Aletta next married Petrus Jacobus DU TOIT on 7 May 1825 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Fifth Generation (Great Great-Grandparents)
16. Gerrit VAN NIEKERK, son of Cornelis Gerritz VAN NIEKERK (Stamvader) and Maria VAN DER WESTHUIZEN, was born in 1695 and was christened on 18 Sep 1695 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Gerrit married Anna Dorothea BRONS on 6 Oct 1725.
Children from this marriage were: i. Cornelis VAN NIEKERK was born in 1726 and was christened on 29 Dec 1726. ii. Maria Helena VAN NIEKERK was born in 1730 and was christened on 12 Feb 1730. iii. Jan Albert VAN NIEKERK iv. Gerrit VAN NIEKERK was born in 1737 and was christened on 17 Feb 1737.
17. Anna Dorothea BRONS, daughter of Johann Albert BRONS (Stamvader) and Maria THOMASSE, was born in 1709 and was christened on 3 Nov 1709 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Anna married Gerrit VAN NIEKERK on 6 Oct 1725.
18. Guilliam OBERHOLZER, son of Johann OBERHOLSTER (Stamvader) and Helena DU TOIT, was born in 1707 and was christened on 4 Dec 1707 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Guilliam married Johanna Margaretha BERGMANN on 30 Dec 1731 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Johannes Willem OBERHOLZER was born in 1732, was christened on 25 Jan 1733, and died before 1735 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Willem OBERHOLZER was born in 1735 and was christened on 20 Nov 1735. iii. Guilliam OBERHOLZER was born in 1737 and was christened on 7 Jul 1737. iv. Cornelis OBERHOLZER was born in 1739, was christened on 3 May 1739, and died before 1742 in Cape Town, Cape Province. v. Michiel OBERHOLZER was born in 1740 and was christened on 13 Nov 1740. vi. Cornelis OBERHOLZER was born in 1742, was christened on 21 Oct 1742, and died before 1748. vii. Helena Elisabeth OBERHOLZER viii. Gerrit Cornelis OBERHOLZER was born in 1748 and was christened on 21 Jul 1748. ix. Pieter OBERHOLZER was born in 1757 and was christened on 27 Nov 1757.
19. Johanna Margaretha BERGMANN, daughter of Willem Stevensz BERGMANN (Stamvader) and Helena MULDER From the Cape, was born in 1716 and was christened on 7 Jan 1717 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Johanna married Guilliam OBERHOLZER on 30 Dec 1731 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
20. Adam TAS, son of Adam TAS (Stamvader) and Elisabeth VAN BRAKEL, was born on 25 Oct 1716 in Cape Colony.
Adam married Johanna VAN BEEK in Netherlands.
The child from this marriage was: i. Adam TAS
21. Johanna VAN BEEK was born in Netherlands and died in Cape Colony.
Johanna married Adam TAS in Netherlands.
22. Johannes Christoffel WAGNER (Stamvader) was born in Germany and died in Cape Colony.
Johannes married Johanna Maria LUBBE on 9 Sep 1753.
Children from this marriage were: i. Jacoba WAGENAAR ii. Johanna Elisabeth WAGENAAR was born in 1754 and was christened on 15 May 1754. iii. Maria WAGENAAR was born on 16 Nov 1755 and died circa 1794 at age 39.
23. Johanna Maria LUBBE, daughter of Hendrik LUBBE and Catharina VAN WYK, was born in 1733 and was christened on 5 Jul 1733 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Johanna married Johannes Christoffel WAGNER (Stamvader) on 9 Sep 1753.
24. Carel VAN HEERDEN, son of Willem VAN HEERDEN and Martha VAN DER MERWE, was born in 1742, was christened on 12 Aug 1742, and died in 1780 at age 38.
Carel married Maria VAN DER MERWE on 3 Nov 1765.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Carel Jacobus VAN HEERDEN
25. Maria VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Izaak VAN DER MERWE and Cecilia Janse VAN RENSBURG, was born in 1749, was christened on 19 Oct 1749 in Tulbagh, Cape Province, and died on 5 Dec 1808 at age 59.
Maria married Carel VAN HEERDEN on 3 Nov 1765.
Maria next married Sebastiaan WOLFAARDT, son of Sebastiaan WOLFAARDT (Stamvader) and Regina Barbara VAN BILJON, on 29 Dec 1782.
26. Barend Jacobus BURGER, son of Schalk Willem BURGER and Hester SMIT, was born in 1747 and was christened on 22 Aug 1747.
Barend married Jacoba LUBBE on 18 Feb 1770.
The child from this marriage was: i. Martha BURGER
27. Jacoba LUBBE, daughter of Barend LUBBE and Martha BURGER, was born in 1753 and was christened on 18 Mar 1753.
Jacoba married Barend Jacobus BURGER on 18 Feb 1770.
28. Abraham ERASMUS, son of Jacob Pietersz ERASMUS and Sara DE KLERK, was born in 1738 and was christened on 6 Jul 1738.
Abraham married Adriana SMIT on 27 Mar 1768.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Jacobus Johannes Petrus ERASMUS was born in 1775 and was christened on 2 Apr 1775. ii. Abraham Stephanus ERASMUS was born in 1779 and was christened on 31 Jan 1779. iii. Francois Alewyn Johannes ERASMUS
29. Adriana SMIT, daughter of Jacobus SMIT and Catharina VAN DYK, was born in 1753 and was christened on 2 Dec 1753.
Adriana married Abraham ERASMUS on 27 Mar 1768.
30. Paulus HUGO, son of Pieter HUGO and Aletta VAN DER MERWE, was born in 1764 and was christened on 30 Jun 1764.
Paulus married Rachel Johanna PRETORIUS on 1 Oct 1786.
The child from this marriage was: i. Aletta Elisabeth HUGO
Paulus next married Martha Barbara LIEBENBERG, daughter of Frederik LIEBENBERG and Unknown, on 29 Nov 1795.
31. Rachel Johanna PRETORIUS, daughter of Willem Sterrenberg PRETORIUS and Elizabeth Cornelia CRAFFORD, was born in 1759, was christened on 26 Aug 1759 in Tulbagh, Cape Province, and died in 1795 in Cape Colony at age 36.
Rachel married Paulus HUGO on 1 Oct 1786.
Rachel next married Pieter Willem VAN HEERDEN on 18 Apr 1781.
Sixth Generation (3rd Great-Grandparents)
32. Cornelis Gerritz VAN NIEKERK (Stamvader) was born in Netherlands and died in Cape Colony.
Cornelis married Maria VAN DER WESTHUIZEN on 1 Apr 1691.
Children from this marriage were: i. Aletta VAN NIEKERK was born in 1692 and was christened on 4 Jan 1693 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Gerrit VAN NIEKERK iii. Johannes VAN NIEKERK was born in 1697, was christened on 15 Sep 1697 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died before 1746. iv. Pieter VAN NIEKERK was born in 1702, was christened on 2 Apr 1702 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died circa 1771 at age 69. v. Helena VAN NIEKERK was born in 1704 and was christened on 9 Nov 1704 in Cape Town, Cape Province. vi. Bernardus VAN NIEKERK was born in 1709 and was christened on 20 Jan 1709 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
33. Maria VAN DER WESTHUIZEN, daughter of Pieter VAN DER WESTHUIZEN (Stamvader) and Maria Hendriks WINKELHAUSEN, was born in 1675 and was christened on 6 Oct 1675.
Maria married Cornelis Gerritz VAN NIEKERK (Stamvader) on 1 Apr 1691.
Maria next married Samuel WALTER (Stamvader) on 22 Mar 1711.
34. Johann Albert BRONS (Stamvader) was born in Germany and died in Cape Colony.
Johann married Anna LYSTER on 24 Apr 1693 in Cape Town, Cape Province. They had no children.
Johann next married Maria KOOPMAN on 8 Sep 1697 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was: i. Anna Maria BRONS was born circa 1699.
Johann next married Dina SOETERMEER on 21 Jan 1706 in Cape Town, Cape Province. They had no children.
Johann next married Maria THOMASSE on 31 Oct 1706 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was: i. Anna Dorothea BRONS
35. Maria THOMASSE .
Maria married Johann Albert BRONS (Stamvader) on 31 Oct 1706 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
36. Johann OBERHOLSTER (Stamvader) was born in 1674 in Zurich, Switzerland and died in 1723 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 49.
Johann had a relationship with Agnitie COLYN, daughter of Bastiaan COLYN (Stamvader) and Maria EVERTS. Marriage status: unmarried.
Their child was: i. Johannes OBERHOLSTER was born in 1702 and was christened on 24 Oct 1702 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Johann next had a relationship with Johanna Marretje FROM THE CAPE. Marriage status: unmarried.
Their child was: i. Barbara OBERHOLSTER was born in 1708 and was christened on 20 Apr 1708 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Johann married Helena DU TOIT on 5 Jul 1706 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Guilliam OBERHOLZER ii. Johannes OBERHOLZER was born in 1710 and was christened on 24 Aug 1710 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province. iii. Johanna Barbara OBERHOLZER was born in 1713, was christened on 16 Jun 1713 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died before 1776.
Johann next married Judith DU PLESSIS, daughter of Jean Prieur DU PLESSIS (Stamvader) and Marie Madeleine MENANTEAU, on 14 Jan 1714. They had no children.
37. Helena DU TOIT, daughter of Guillaume DU TOIT (Stamvader) and Sara Barendts COCHET, was born in 1690, was christened on 6 Aug 1690, and died circa 1713 in Cape Colony at age 23.
Helena married Johann OBERHOLSTER (Stamvader) on 5 Jul 1706 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
38. Willem Stevensz BERGMANN (Stamvader) was born in Netherlands and died in Cape Colony.
Willem married Helena MULDER From the Cape on 2 Oct 1718 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Wilhelmina Hendrina BERGMANN was born circa 1713. ii. Johanna Margaretha BERGMANN iii. Johannes BERGMANN was born in 1723 and was christened on 8 Aug 1723. iv. Gerrit BERGMANN was born in 1725 and was christened on 20 May 1725.
39. Helena MULDER From the Cape .
Helena married Willem Stevensz BERGMANN (Stamvader) on 2 Oct 1718 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
40. Adam TAS (Stamvader), son of Jan TAS and Margaretha Geertruyd LINDENHOVIUS, was born in 1668 in Amsterdam, Netherlands and died in Jun 1722 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 54.
Adam married Elisabeth VAN BRAKEL on 7 Jun 1703.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Jan TAS was born in 1704, was christened on 11 May 1704, and died in 1708 at age 4. ii. Sara Margaretha TAS was born in 1705 and was christened on 6 Dec 1705. iii. Adam TAS was born in 1706, was christened on 25 Oct 1706, and died in 1713 at age 7. iv. Jan TAS was born in 1710. v. Adriaan TAS was born in 1711. vi. Adam TAS
Adam next married Johanna KOEVAAL on 25 Nov 1717 in Cape Colony.
41. Elisabeth VAN BRAKEL, daughter of Adriaan VAN BRAKEL (Stamvader) and Sara VAN ROSENDAAL, was born in 1674, was christened on 13 May 1674, and died in 1717 in Cape Colony at age 43.
Elisabeth married Hans Jurgen GRIMPEN (Stamvader), son of Hans GRIMPEN and Sophia KOSTERS, on 25 Jul 1700.
Elisabeth next married Adam TAS (Stamvader) on 7 Jun 1703.
46. Hendrik LUBBE, son of Berend LÖBE (Stamvader) and Jacoba BRANDENBURG, was born in 1700 and was christened on 5 Sep 1700 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Hendrik married Catharina VAN WYK on 20 Jun 1726.
Children from this marriage were: i. Jacoba LUBBE was born in 1727 and was christened on 28 Sep 1727 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province. ii. Sara LUBBE was born in 1728 and was christened on 19 Dec 1728. iii. Aletta LUBBE was born in 1731 and was christened on 24 Jun 1731 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province. iv. Johanna Maria LUBBE v. Adriaan LUBBE was born in 1742 and was christened on 28 Jan 1742. vi. Jacoba Elisabeth LUBBE was born in 1744 in Tulbagh, Cape Province and died before 1793.
47. Catharina VAN WYK, daughter of Arie VAN WYK (Stamvader) and Cornelia HELM, was born in 1710 and was christened on 20 Jul 1710 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Catharina married Hendrik LUBBE on 20 Jun 1726.
48. Willem VAN HEERDEN, son of Pieter Willem VAN HEERDEN (Stamvader) and Magteld VAN DER MERWE, was born in 1709, was christened on 22 Oct 1709, and died in 1767 at age 58.
Willem married Martha VAN DER MERWE on 30 Apr 1730.
Children from this marriage were: i. Pieter Willem VAN HEERDEN was born in 1731 and was christened on 18 Mar 1731. ii. Schalk Willem VAN HEERDEN was born in 1732 and was christened on 20 Jul 1732. iii. Machteld VAN HEERDEN was born in 1734 and was christened on 11 Jul 1734. iv. Carel VAN HEERDEN v. Roelof VAN HEERDEN was born in 1744 and was christened on 25 Dec 1744.
49. Martha VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Schalk VAN DER MERWE and Anne PREVOST, was born in 1713 and was christened on 14 May 1713.
Martha married Willem VAN HEERDEN on 30 Apr 1730.
50. Izaak VAN DER MERWE, son of Schalk VAN DER MERWE and Anne PREVOST, was born on 14 Apr 1711, was christened on 27 Sep 1711 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died on 1 Jun 1777 in farm "Modderfontein", Ceres, Cape Province at age 66.
Izaak married Cecilia Janse VAN RENSBURG on 19 Apr 1732 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Anna Sophia VAN DER MERWE was born in 1733, was christened on 12 Apr 1733, and died in 1774 at age 41. ii. Schalk Willem VAN DER MERWE was born on 1 Jan 1735 and was christened on 9 Jan 1735 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province. iii. Cecilia VAN DER MERWE was born in 1740 and was christened on 10 Apr 1740. iv. Izaak VAN DER MERWE was born on 1 Feb 1745 in farm "Boplaas", Tulbagh, Cape Province, was christened on 7 Mar 1745 in Tulbagh, Cape Province, and died on 17 Oct 1781 in Het Land Van Waveren, Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 36. v. Maria VAN DER MERWE
51. Cecilia Janse VAN RENSBURG, daughter of Claas Jansz VAN RENSBURG (Stamvader) and Aaltje VAN DER MERWE, was born on 1 Mar 1715, was christened on 21 Apr 1715 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died on 26 Apr 1774 at age 59.
Cecilia married Izaak VAN DER MERWE on 19 Apr 1732 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
52. Schalk Willem BURGER, son of Willem BURGER and Elsie VAN DER MERWE, was born in 1720 and was christened on 20 Oct 1720.
Schalk married Hester SMIT on 16 Sep 1742.
Children from this marriage were: i. Barend Jacobus BURGER ii. Schalk Willemse BURGER was born in 1750 and was christened on 26 Apr 1750. iii. Elsie BURGER was born in 1751 and was christened on 26 Dec 1751. iv. Andries Petrus BURGER was born in 1755 and was christened on 2 Dec 1755.
53. Hester SMIT, daughter of Alewyn SMIT and Hester BEKKER, was born in 1723 and was christened on 31 Oct 1723 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
Hester married Schalk Willem BURGER on 16 Sep 1742.
54. Barend LUBBE, son of Berend LÖBE (Stamvader) and Jacoba BRANDENBURG, was born in 1713 and was christened on 5 Mar 1713 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Barend married Martha BURGER on 19 Feb 1736 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Andries LUBBE was born in 1737 and was christened on 3 Feb 1737. ii. Barend Frederik LUBBE was born in 1738 and was christened on 4 Oct 1738. iii. Willem LUBBE was born in 1741 and was christened on 2 Mar 1741. iv. Elizabeth LUBBE was born in 1745, was christened on 21 Feb 1745, and died before 1782. v. Catharina Johanna LUBBE was born in 1749 and was christened on 9 Mar 1749. vi. Johannes Hendrik LUBBE was born in 1751 and was christened on 25 Apr 1751 in Tulbagh, Cape Province. vii. Jacoba LUBBE viii. Elsje LUBBE was born on 26 May 1755, was christened on 6 Jul 1755, and died on 16 Dec 1816 at age 61.
55. Martha BURGER, daughter of Andries BURGER and Maria VAN DER MERWE, was born in 1720 and was christened on 5 Jan 1721.
Martha married Barend LUBBE on 19 Feb 1736 in Paarl, Cape Province.
56. Jacob Pietersz ERASMUS, son of Pieter ERASMUS (Stamvader) and Maria Elisabeth JOOSTE, was born in 1708 and was christened on 19 Aug 1708.
Jacob married Hester PIENAAR, daughter of Jacques PIENAAR and Louise CORDIER, on 4 Aug 1732.
The child from this marriage was: i. Jacob ERASMUS was born in 1737 and was christened on 4 Aug 1737 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Jacob next married Sara DE KLERK on 4 Aug 1737.
Children from this marriage were: i. Abraham ERASMUS ii. Engela ERASMUS was born in 1747 and was christened on 16 Jul 1747. iii. Magdalena Catharina ERASMUS was born circa 1749.
57. Sara DE KLERK, daughter of Abraham DE CLERQ (Stamvader) and Madeleine MOUTON, was born in 1710 and was christened on 3 Aug 1710 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Sara married Jacob Pietersz ERASMUS on 4 Aug 1737.
Sara next married Sybrand VAN DYK, son of Joost Pieterz VAN DYK (Stamvader) and Catharina VERBURGH, on 21 Mar 1751 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Joseph VAN DYK was born in 1752 and was christened on 9 Jul 1752 in Tulbagh, Cape Province. ii. Sara VAN DYK was born in 1755, was christened on 16 Nov 1755 in Swartland (Tulbagh), Cape Province, and died circa 1774 at age 19. iii. Anna Catharina VAN DYK was born in 1758 and was christened on 30 Apr 1758 in Swartland (Tulbagh), Cape Province.
58. Jacobus SMIT, son of Jacobus SMIT and Lijsbeth SLABBERT, was born in 1716 and was christened on 6 Sep 1716 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Jacobus married Catharina VAN DYK on 14 Aug 1746 in Swartland (Tulbagh), Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Francois Alewyn SMIT was born in 1766, was christened on 9 Mar 1766 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died before Jan 1831 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. ii. Adriana SMIT iii. Jacobus SMIT was born in 1755 and was christened on 6 Jul 1755.
59. Catharina VAN DYK, daughter of Burgert Pieter VAN DYK and Maria VISSER, was born in 1724 and was christened on 27 Aug 1724 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Catharina married Jacobus SMIT on 14 Aug 1746 in Swartland (Tulbagh), Cape Province.
60. Pieter HUGO, son of Pierre HUGO and Anne RETIEF, was born in 1759, was christened on 15 May 1759, and died in 1784 at age 25.
Pieter married Aletta VAN DER MERWE on 27 Feb 1752 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Anna Aletta HUGO was born in 1757, was christened on 7 Aug 1757 in Tulbagh, Cape Province, and died circa 1825 at age 68. ii. Paulus HUGO
Pieter next married Hester CILLIERS on 28 Feb 1768.
61. Aletta VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Pieter VAN DER MERWE and Elsje Janse VAN RENSBURG, was born in 1732, was christened on 20 Jul 1732, and died on 23 Mar 1767 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 35.
Aletta married Pieter HUGO on 27 Feb 1752 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
62. Willem Sterrenberg PRETORIUS, son of Johannes PRETORIUS and Helena VOSLOO, was born in 1725, was christened on 11 Jul 1728 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died in 1782 in Het Land Van Waveren, Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 57.
Willem married Elizabeth Cornelia CRAFFORD on 20 Jun 1756.
Children from this marriage were: i. Rachel Johanna PRETORIUS ii. Willem Sterrenberg PRETORIUS was born in 1762, was christened on 25 Apr 1762 in Tulbagh, Cape Province, and died on 16 Nov 1837 on farm "Klipfontein", Bedford, Cape Province at age 75. iii. Jan Lodewyk PRETORIUS was born in 1766 and was christened on 25 Dec 1766 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
63. Elizabeth Cornelia CRAFFORD, daughter of Dirk Willem CRAFFORD (Stamvader) and Rachel JOUBERT, was born in 1731 and was christened on 1 Mar 1731.
Elizabeth married Willem Sterrenberg PRETORIUS on 20 Jun 1756.
Seventh Generation (4th Great-Grandparents)
66. Pieter VAN DER WESTHUIZEN (Stamvader) was born in Flanders and died in Cape Colony.
Pieter married Maria Hendriks WINKELHAUSEN on 5 Nov 1673.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Maria VAN DER WESTHUIZEN ii. Jan VAN DER WESTHUIZEN was born in 1677 and was christened on 9 May 1677. iii. Nicolaas VAN DER WESTHUIZEN was born in 1679, was christened on 7 May 1679 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died on 8 Oct 1736 at age 57. iv. Barend VAN DER WESTHUIZEN was born in 1681, was christened on 16 Mar 1681, and died circa 1713 at age 32. v. Pieter VAN DER WESTHUIZEN was born in 1690, was christened on 10 Sep 1690, and died in 1739 in Cape Colony at age 49. vi. Helena VAN DER WESTHUIZEN was born in 1683 and was christened on 27 Jun 1683.
Pieter next married Eva Gerrits LIGTEHARD on 26 Sep 1706.
67. Maria Hendriks WINKELHAUSEN .
Maria married Hendrik BARENDS.
Maria next married Pieter VAN DER WESTHUIZEN (Stamvader) on 5 Nov 1673.
74. Guillaume DU TOIT (Stamvader) .
Guillaume married Sara Barendts COCHET on 16 May 1688 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Helena DU TOIT
75. Sara Barendts COCHET, daughter of Barendt Jansz COCHET and Jannetje Joosse VAN VOOREN, was born circa 1652 in Oosterhoebrug, Walcheren, Netherlands and died in Apr 1714 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 62.
Sara married Pierre DE CLERQ before 1670 in Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were: i. Abraham DE CLERQ (Stamvader) was born on 7 May 1670, was christened on 11 Oct 1671 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands, and died in 1745 in Cape Colony at age 75. ii. Joost DE CLERQ was born in 1678, was christened on 16 Oct 1678 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands, and died circa 1713 in Cape Colony at age 35. iii. Jeanne DE CLERQ was born in 1676 in Middelburg, Zeeland, Netherlands and was christened on 3 May 1676 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands. Another name for Jeanne was Johanna. iv. Barendt DE CLERQ was born in 1674 and was christened on 14 Jan 1674 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands.
Sara next married Guillaume DU TOIT (Stamvader) on 16 May 1688 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
80. Jan TAS died before 1691 in Netherlands.
Jan married Margaretha Geertruyd LINDENHOVIUS in Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Adam TAS (Stamvader) ii. Sara Wilhelmina TAS iii. Johanna Maria TAS
81. Margaretha Geertruyd LINDENHOVIUS, daughter of Adam LINDENHOVIUS and Anna KEMENERUS.
Margaretha married Jan TAS in Netherlands.
82. Adriaan VAN BRAKEL (Stamvader) .
Adriaan married Sara VAN ROSENDAAL on 28 May 1670 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Willem VAN BRAKEL was born in 1671 and was christened on 22 Apr 1671. ii. Elisabeth VAN BRAKEL was born in 1672, was christened on 12 Mar 1673, and died circa 1674 at age 2. iii. Elisabeth VAN BRAKEL iv. Jacobus VAN BRAKEL was born in 1676, was christened on 12 Apr 1676, and died circa 1679 at age 3. v. Maria VAN BRAKEL was born in 1677 and was christened on 30 May 1677. vi. Jacobus VAN BRAKEL was born in 1679, was christened on 19 May 1679, and died circa 1680 at age 1. vii. Jacobus VAN BRAKEL was born in 1680 and was christened on 8 Jan 1681. viii. Hermanus VAN BRAKEL was born in 1682, was christened on 13 Dec 1682, and died circa 1683 at age 1. ix. Hermanus VAN BRAKEL was born in 1683, was christened on 2 Jan 1684, and died circa 1686 at age 3. x. Magteld VAN BRAKEL was born in 1684, was christened on 25 Feb 1685, and died in 1689 at age 5. xi. Hermanus VAN BRAKEL was born in 1686, was christened on 30 Jun 1686, and died circa 1745 at age 59. xii. Leendert VAN BRAKEL was born in 1687 and was christened on 5 Oct 1687. xiii. Barbara VAN BRAKEL was born in 1688 and was christened on 14 Nov 1688. xiv. Magteld VAN BRAKEL was born in 1690 and was christened on 31 Dec 1690.
83. Sara VAN ROSENDAAL .
Sara married Adriaan VAN BRAKEL (Stamvader) on 28 May 1670 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
92. Berend LÖBE (Stamvader) was born in Germany and died in Cape Colony.
Berend married Jacoba BRANDENBURG circa 1696 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Hendrik LUBBE was born in 1697, was christened on 3 Nov 1697 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died circa 1699 at age 2. ii. Aletta LUBBE was born in 1699, was christened on 14 Jun 1699, and died circa 1754 at age 55. iii. Hendrik LUBBE iv. Elizabeth LUBBE was born in 1702, was christened on 6 Aug 1702, and died on 13 Mar 1770 on farm "Roodezand", Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 68. v. Jan LUBBE was born in 1703 and was christened on 23 Sep 1703. vi. Francois LUBBE was born in 1705 and was christened on 1 Jan 1705. vii. Catharina LUBBE was born in 1706 and was christened on 23 May 1706. viii. Jacobus LUBBE was born in 1707 and was christened on 31 Jul 1707. ix. Gerrit LUBBE was born in 1708 and was christened on 28 Oct 1708. x. Johanna LUBBE was born in 1709, was christened on 26 Jan 1710, and died before 1735. xi. Maria Jacoba LUBBE was born in 1711 and was christened on 20 Dec 1711. xii. Barend LUBBE
93. Jacoba BRANDENBURG was born circa 1675 in Netherlands and died in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Jacoba married Berend LÖBE (Stamvader) circa 1696 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
94. Arie VAN WYK (Stamvader), son of Roelof Adriaensz VAN WYK and Trjinje JANS, was born in 1667, was christened on 18 Jan 1668 in Nieuwe Kerk, Amsterdam, Netherlands, and died circa Jul 1713 in Cape Colony at age 46. Another name for Arie was Arie.
Arie married Marie LE LONG, daughter of Jean LE LONG (Stamvader) and Marie COCHET, circa 1689 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
Arie next married Cornelia HELM in Oct 1693.
Children from this marriage were: i. Roelof VAN WYK was born in 1694, was christened on 5 Sep 1694 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in Jul 1746 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 52. ii. Aletta VAN WYK was born in 1696 and was christened on 15 Jul 1696 in Cape Town, Cape Province. iii. Willem VAN WYK was born in 1698, was christened on 19 Jan 1698 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died circa 1771 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 73. iv. Sara VAN WYK was born in 1699 and was christened on 29 Nov 1699 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province. v. Adrianus VAN WYK was born in 1701, was christened on 25 Dec 1701 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died in 1703 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 2. vi. Maria VAN WYK was born in 1703. vii. Gerrit Arie VAN WYK was born in 1704, was christened on 14 Dec 1704, and died before 1740. viii. Adriaan VAN WYK was born circa 1705 and died before 1771. ix. Gerrit VAN WYK was born in 1707, was christened on 14 Dec 1707 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died on 12 Aug 1708 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 1. x. Catharina VAN WYK xi. Hester VAN WYK was born in 1712 and was christened on 23 Oct 1712 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
95. Cornelia HELM, daughter of Hans HELM (Stamvader) and Geertruy WILLEMSE, was born in 1673, was christened on 17 Sep 1673 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died circa 21 Jun 1720 in Cape Colony at age 47.
Cornelia married Jan VAN DEN BOSCH (Stamvader) on 28 Mar 1688 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Catharina VAN DEN BOSCH was born in 1688 and was christened on 29 Jan 1689. ii. Johanna VAN DEN BOSCH was born in 1690 and was christened on 11 Jun 1690. iii. Johannes VAN DEN BOSCH was born in 1692 and was christened on 13 Apr 1692.
Cornelia next married Arie VAN WYK (Stamvader) in Oct 1693.
Cornelia next married Jacob KUTZER (Stamvader), son of Wenzeslaus KUTZER and Unknown, on 15 Sep 1717.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Johannes Jacobus COETZER was born in 1716 and was christened on 24 May 1716. ii. Dorothea COETZER was born in 1717, was christened on 19 Sep 1717, and died before 1746.
96. Pieter Willem VAN HEERDEN (Stamvader) was born circa 1681 in Heerde, Gelderland, Netherlands and died in 1763 in Het Land Van Waveren, Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 82.
Pieter married Magteld VAN DER MERWE on 18 Sep 1708 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Willem VAN HEERDEN ii. Elsje VAN HEERDEN was born circa 1712. iii. Hendrik VAN HEERDEN was born in 1712. iv. Jacob VAN HEERDEN was born in 1715, was christened on 14 Jul 1715, and died in 1749 at age 34. v. Aletta VAN HEERDEN was born in 1718 and was christened on 8 May 1718. vi. Jacoba VAN HEERDEN was born in 1720 and was christened on 19 May 1720. vii. Helena VAN HEERDEN was born in 1722 and was christened on 27 Sep 1722. viii. Sophia VAN HEERDEN was born in 1724 and was christened on 31 Dec 1724. ix. Petrus Johannes VAN HEERDEN was born in 1727, was christened on 15 Jul 1727, and died as an infant. x. Petronella VAN HEERDEN was born in 1729 and was christened on 4 Nov 1729. xi. Maria VAN HEERDEN was born in 1733 and was christened on 22 Nov 1733.
97. Magteld VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) and Elsje CLOETE, was born circa 1691 and died on 11 Feb 1765 in farm "Weltevreden", Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 74.
Magteld married Pieter Willem VAN HEERDEN (Stamvader) on 18 Sep 1708 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
98. Schalk VAN DER MERWE, son of Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) and Elsje CLOETE, was born on 14 Jul 1673, was christened on 13 Aug 1673 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in 1740 in Cape Colony at age 67.
Schalk married Anne PREVOST in Jun 1680.
Children from this marriage were: i. Elsie VAN DER MERWE was born on 18 Aug 1697 and was christened in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province. ii. Hendrik Willem VAN DER MERWE was born in 1698, was christened on 17 Aug 1698, and died as an infant. iii. Carel VAN DER MERWE was born on 16 Nov 1698, was christened on 30 Dec 1698 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died circa 1722 at age 24. iv. Jacob VAN DER MERWE was born on 19 Jan 1699, was christened on 12 Feb 1699 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died on 31 Oct 1769 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 70. v. Willem VAN DER MERWE was born on 4 Oct 1701, was christened on 23 Oct 1701 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died on 3 Jul 1776 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 74. vi. Maria VAN DER MERWE was born on 15 Apr 1703 and was christened on 29 Apr 1703 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province. vii. Anna VAN DER MERWE was born in 1704, was christened on 21 May 1704, and died before 1739. viii. Sophia VAN DER MERWE was born on 27 Mar 1706, was christened on 18 Apr 1706 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died circa Oct 1727 at age 21. ix. David VAN DER MERWE was born on 20 Aug 1707, was christened on 2 Oct 1707 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died on 1 Apr 1784 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 76. x. Pieter VAN DER MERWE was born on 1 Jun 1709, was christened on 7 Jun 1709, and died on 2 May 1763 in Bokkeveld, Cape Province at age 53. xi. Izaak VAN DER MERWE xii. Martha VAN DER MERWE xiii. Hendrik VAN DER MERWE was born on 5 Oct 1714, was christened on 28 Oct 1714, and died on 17 Sep 1762 at age 47. xiv. Gerrit VAN DER MERWE was born on 22 Oct 1716, was christened on 22 Nov 1716 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died on 9 Feb 1770 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 53. xv. Roelof VAN DER MERWE was born on 26 Jun 1718 and was christened on 24 Jul 1718. xvi. Pieternella VAN DER MERWE was born on 21 Apr 1720 and was christened on 19 May 1720. xvii. Carel VAN DER MERWE was born in 1725 and was christened on 2 Sep 1725.
99. Anne PREVOST, daughter of Charles PREVOST (Stamvader) and Marie LE FEBRE, was born on 18 Feb 1681 in Marcq, France and died circa 1745 in Cape Colony at age 64.
Anne married Schalk VAN DER MERWE in Jun 1680.
100. Schalk VAN DER MERWE, son of Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) and Elsje CLOETE, was born on 14 Jul 1673, was christened on 13 Aug 1673 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in 1740 in Cape Colony at age 67. (Duplicate. See Person 98 on Page 1)
101. Anne PREVOST, daughter of Charles PREVOST (Stamvader) and Marie LE FEBRE, was born on 18 Feb 1681 in Marcq, France and died circa 1745 in Cape Colony at age 64. (Duplicate. See Person 99 on Page 1)
102. Claas Jansz VAN RENSBURG (Stamvader) was born circa 1661 and died circa 1728 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 67.
Claas married Aaltje VAN DER MERWE on 14 Aug 1708 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Elsje Janse VAN RENSBURG was born in 1712, was christened on 31 Jul 1712 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died on 15 Oct 1776 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 64. ii. Cecilia Janse VAN RENSBURG iii. Willem VAN RENSBURG was born in 1717, was christened on 21 Nov 1717 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died on 21 Jul 1746 in Bokkeveld, Cape Province at age 29. iv. Nicolaas VAN RENSBURG was born in 1720 and was christened on 3 Mar 1720 in Paarl, Cape Province. v. Hendrik VAN RENSBURG was born in 1723, was christened on 12 Sep 1723 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died before 1808. vi. Sophia VAN RENSBURG was born on 25 Nov 1725, was christened on 23 Dec 1725 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died on 30 Dec 1800 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 75. vii. Johannes VAN RENSBURG was born in 1709, was christened on 7 Jul 1709 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died circa 1775 in Albertinia, Cape Province at age 66.
103. Aaltje VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) and Elsje CLOETE, was born on 30 Mar 1684, was christened on 23 Apr 1684 in Cape Town, Cape Province, died on 30 Sep 1729 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 45, and was buried in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
Aaltje married Claas Jansz VAN RENSBURG (Stamvader) on 14 Aug 1708 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Aaltje next married Marthinus VAN STADEN, son of Maarten VAN STADEN (Stamvader) and Margaretha ERNST.
Children from this marriage were: i. Martha VAN STADEN was born on 27 Jun 1706. ii. Maria VAN STADEN was born in 1707 and died circa 1785 at age 78. iii. Marthinus VAN STADEN was born in 1708 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
104. Willem BURGER, son of Berndt BURCHERDT (Stamvader) and Marritje VAN DER MERWE, was born in 1696 and was christened on 28 May 1696 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Willem married Elsie VAN DER MERWE.
Children from this marriage were: i. Barend BURGER was born in 1717, was christened on 13 Dec 1717, and died before 1771. ii. Schalk Willem BURGER iii. Anna Sophia BURGER was born in 1723 and was christened on 17 Jan 1723 in Paarl, Cape Province. iv. Maria Magdalena BURGER was born in 1726 and was christened on 11 Aug 1726.
105. Elsie VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Schalk VAN DER MERWE and Anne PREVOST, was born on 18 Aug 1697 and was christened in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
Elsie married Willem BURGER.
106. Alewyn SMIT, son of Johannes SMIT (Stamvader) and Adriana TOL, was born in 1695, was christened on 28 Sep 1695 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died in 1774 in Het Land Van Waveren, Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 79.
Alewyn married Hester BEKKER on 25 Dec 1718 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Helena SMIT was born circa 1720, was christened on 26 Apr 1722, and died before 1792. ii. Hester SMIT iii. Johanna Adriana SMIT was born in 1725, was christened on 19 Aug 1725 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died before 1740. iv. Petronella SMIT was born in 1727 and was christened on 23 Nov 1727. v. Dorothea Maria SMIT was born in 1730 and was christened on 8 Apr 1730 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province. vi. Johan Pieter SMIT was born in 1733, was christened on 5 Jul 1733 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died circa 1735 at age 2. vii. Alewyn SMIT was born on 4 Feb 1736, was christened on 8 Apr 1736 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died in Oct 1790 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 54. viii. Johannes Petrus SMIT was born in 1738 and was christened on 2 Feb 1738 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ix. Jacobus SMIT was born in 1740 and was christened on 25 Nov 1740. x. Andries Adriaan SMIT was born in 1742 in Vier En Twintig Riviere, Tulbagh, was christened on 23 Dec 1742, and died on 23 Sep 1814 in Graaff-Reinet District at age 72. xi. Johanna Adriana SMIT was born in 1744 and was christened on 3 Jan 1745. xii. Stephanus Christiaan SMIT was born in 1749, was christened on 5 Oct 1749 in Tulbagh, Cape Province, and died on 21 Oct 1791 in farm "Misverstand", Berg River, Cape Province at age 42.
107. Hester BEKKER, daughter of Peter BECKER (Stamvader) and Jeanne DE CLERQ, was born in 1700, was christened on 5 Sep 1700, and died in 1778 in Cape Colony at age 78.
Hester married Alewyn SMIT on 25 Dec 1718 in Paarl, Cape Province.
108. Berend LÖBE (Stamvader) was born in Germany and died in Cape Colony. (Duplicate. See Person 92 on Page 1)
109. Jacoba BRANDENBURG was born circa 1675 in Netherlands and died in Stellenbosch, Cape Province. (Duplicate. See Person 93 on Page 1)
110. Andries BURGER, son of Berndt BURCHERDT (Stamvader) and Marritje VAN DER MERWE, was born circa 1699.
Andries married Maria VAN DER MERWE on 14 Apr 1720 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Martha BURGER ii. Willem BURGER was born in 1722 and was christened on 5 Jul 1722. iii. Anna Sophia BURGER was born in 1723 and was christened on 2 Oct 1723. iv. Barend Frederik BURGER was born in 1725 and was christened on 20 May 1725.
Andries next married Martha MOUTON, daughter of Jacques MOUTON (Stamvader) and Francina BEVERNAGIE, on 12 Jan 1727.
Children from this marriage were: i. Andries BURGER was born in 1727, was christened on 18 Apr 1728, and died circa 1730 at age 3. ii. Maria Magdalena BURGER was born circa 1729. iii. Andries BURGER was born in 1731, was christened on 25 Mar 1731, and died circa 1738 at age 7. iv. Elsie BURGER was born in 1733, was christened on 26 Dec 1733, and died circa 1736 at age 3. v. Elsie BURGER was born in 1736 and was christened on 7 Oct 1736. vi. Andries BURGER was born in 1739 and was christened on 4 Jul 1739. vii. Jacobus Abraham BURGER was born in 1740 and was christened on 30 Apr 1741. viii. Hendrik Schalk BURGER was born in 1744 and was christened on 17 Apr 1745. ix. Pieter BURGER was born in 1747 and was christened on 1 Oct 1747.
111. Maria VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Schalk VAN DER MERWE and Anne PREVOST, was born on 15 Apr 1703 and was christened on 29 Apr 1703 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
Maria married Andries BURGER on 14 Apr 1720 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
112. Pieter ERASMUS (Stamvader) was born in Netherlands and died in 1731 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
Pieter married Maria Elisabeth JOOSTE in 1697.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Rasmus ERASMUS was born in 1698 and was christened on 21 Sep 1698. ii. Lourens ERASMUS was born in 1704, was christened on 22 Jun 1704, and died before 1736. iii. Jacob Pietersz ERASMUS
113. Maria Elisabeth JOOSTE was born circa 1676 in Middelburg, Zeeland, Netherlands and died in Sep 1723 in Cape Colony at age 47.
Maria married Pieter JANSEN.
Maria next married Pieter ERASMUS (Stamvader) in 1697.
114. Abraham DE CLERQ (Stamvader), son of Pierre DE CLERQ and Sara Barendts COCHET, was born on 7 May 1670, was christened on 11 Oct 1671 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands, and died in 1745 in Cape Colony at age 75.
Abraham married Madeleine MOUTON on 12 May 1709 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Sara DE KLERK ii. Maria DE KLERK was born in 1712 and was christened on 14 Aug 1712 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province. iii. Pieter DE KLERK was born in 1714 and was christened on 11 Nov 1714. iv. Barend DE KLERK was born in 1716 and was christened on 8 Nov 1716. v. Abraham DE KLERK was born in 1721 and was christened on 26 Jul 1721. vi. Jacob DE KLERK was born in 1723 and was christened on 17 Oct 1723. vii. Joseph DE KLERK was born in 1726, was christened on 25 Aug 1726 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died in 1791 at age 65. viii. Johannes DE KLERK was born in 1728 and was christened on 5 Dec 1728. ix. Jannetje DE KLERK was born in 1714 and was christened on 30 Sep 1714 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province. Another name for Jannetje was Anna DE KLERK. x. Cornelis DE KLERK was born in 1729 and was christened on 8 Jan 1730.
115. Madeleine MOUTON, daughter of Jacques MOUTON (Stamvader) and Marie DE VILLIERS, was born circa 1689 in Middelburg, Zeeland, Netherlands.
Madeleine married Abraham DE CLERQ (Stamvader) on 12 May 1709 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
116. Jacobus SMIT, son of Johannes SMIT (Stamvader) and Adriana TOL, was born in 1689, was christened on 16 Oct 1689 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died in 1752 in farm "Uylekraal", Swartland (Tulbagh) at age 63.
Jacobus married Lijsbeth SLABBERT on 3 Mar 1709 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Floris SMIT was born in 1712 and was christened on 3 Apr 1712 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Jasper SMIT was born in 1714 and was christened on 18 Nov 1714 in Cape Town, Cape Province. iii. Jacobus SMIT iv. Adriana SMIT was born in 1724 and was christened on 2 Jul 1724. v. Maarten SMIT was born in 1731 and was christened on 7 Oct 1731. vi. Alewijn SMIT was born in 1734, was christened on 4 Jul 1734 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died on 25 Jan 1787 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 53. vii. Francois SMIT was born in 1729 and was christened on 17 Apr 1729. viii. Johanna Jacomina SMIT was born in 1760 and was christened on 18 May 1760.
117. Lijsbeth SLABBERT, daughter of Floris SLABBERT (Stamvader) and Huibrecht JASPERSE, was born in 1691, was christened on 16 Apr 1691 in Meliskerke, Walcheren, Zeeland, Netherlands, and died in Oct 1771 in Cape Colony at age 80. Another name for Lijsbeth was Elisabeth SLABBERT.
Lijsbeth married Jacobus SMIT on 3 Mar 1709 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
118. Burgert Pieter VAN DYK, son of Joost Pieterz VAN DYK (Stamvader) and Catharina VERBURGH, was born in 1697 and was christened on 18 May 1697.
Burgert married Maria VISSER on 6 Oct 1715.
Children from this marriage were: i. Hendrik VAN DYK was born in 1720 and was christened on 16 Jun 1720. ii. Catharina VAN DYK iii. Johanna VAN DYK was born in 1726 and was christened on 25 Dec 1726.
119. Maria VISSER, daughter of Johannes VISSER and Maria VAN NEGAPATNAM, was born circa 1696.
Maria married Burgert Pieter VAN DYK on 6 Oct 1715.
120. Pierre HUGO, son of Daniel HUGOT (Stamvader) and Anne ROSSOUW, was born in 1710, was christened on 15 Jun 1710, and died on 4 Mar 1752 in De Doorns, Cape Province at age 42.
Pierre married Anne RETIEF on 16 May 1728 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Anna Aletta HUGO was born in 1735, was christened on 20 Feb 1735, and died on 25 Jun 1761 in Murdered by a slave on the farm "Vredenburg", Stellenbosch at age 26. ii. Pieter HUGO
121. Anne RETIEF, daughter of Francois RETIEF (Stamvader) and Marie MOUY, was born in 1704, was christened on 30 Nov 1704, and died circa 1763 at age 59.
Anne married Pierre HUGO on 16 May 1728 in Paarl, Cape Province.
122. Pieter VAN DER MERWE, son of Schalk VAN DER MERWE and Anne PREVOST, was born on 1 Jun 1709, was christened on 7 Jun 1709, and died on 2 May 1763 in Bokkeveld, Cape Province at age 53.
Pieter married Elsje Janse VAN RENSBURG on 12 Aug 1731.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Aletta VAN DER MERWE ii. Pieter VAN DER MERWE was born in 1738 and was christened on 6 Jul 1738.
123. Elsje Janse VAN RENSBURG, daughter of Claas Jansz VAN RENSBURG (Stamvader) and Aaltje VAN DER MERWE, was born in 1712, was christened on 31 Jul 1712 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died on 15 Oct 1776 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 64.
Elsje married Pieter VAN DER MERWE on 12 Aug 1731.
124. Johannes PRETORIUS, son of Johannes PRETORIUS (Stamvader) and Johanna VICTOR, was born in 1680, was christened on 22 Sep 1680 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died circa 1732 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 52.
Johannes married Helena VOSLOO.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Johannes PRETORIUS was born in 1711, was christened on 21 Mar 1711 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died on 4 Jul 1778 in Het Land Van Waveren, Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 67. ii. Gerrit PRETORIUS was born in 1712 and was christened on 12 Nov 1712. iii. Wessel PRETORIUS was born in 1714, was christened on 30 Sep 1714, and died in 1752 at age 38. iv. Johanna PRETORIUS was born in 1716 and was christened on 8 Nov 1716. v. Anna PRETORIUS was born in 1718, was christened on 2 Oct 1718, and died circa 1754 at age 36. vi. Lodewicus PRETORIUS was born in 1721 and was christened on 31 Aug 1721. vii. Jacobus PRETORIUS was born in 1724, was christened on 27 Feb 1724 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died before Aug 1778. viii. Willem Sterrenberg PRETORIUS ix. Arnoldus Kruysman PRETORIUS was born in 1726 and was christened on 24 Feb 1726. x. Wynand PRETORIUS was born in 1730 and was christened on 8 Oct 1730.
125. Helena VOSLOO, daughter of Johannes VOSLOO (Stamvader) and Helena FROM MALABAR, was born circa 1690 and died circa 1731 at age 41.
Helena married Johannes PRETORIUS.
126. Dirk Willem CRAFFORD (Stamvader) was born in Netherlands and died in 1744 in Cape Colony.
Dirk married Rachel JOUBERT on 22 Jan 1730 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Elizabeth Cornelia CRAFFORD ii. Rachel CRAFFORD was born in 1736 and was christened on 1 Jul 1736. iii. Jan CRAFFORD was born on 26 Nov 1741 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, was christened on 26 Nov 1741, and died on 11 May 1811 at age 69.
127. Rachel JOUBERT, daughter of Pierre JOUBERT (Stamvader) and Isabeau RICHARD, was born circa 1710.
Rachel married Dirk Willem CRAFFORD (Stamvader) on 22 Jan 1730 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Rachel next married Gerrit VAN DEVENTER, son of Gerrit Jansz VAN DEVENTER (Stamvader) and Arriaentje JACOBS, on 30 Oct 1744.
Rachel next married Johannes Albertus VAN EMMENES on 24 Aug 1754 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Eighth Generation (5th Great-Grandparents)
150. Barendt Jansz COCHET .
Barendt married Jannetje Joosse VAN VOOREN.
The child from this marriage was: i. Sara Barendts COCHET
151. Jannetje Joosse VAN VOOREN .
Jannetje married Barendt Jansz COCHET.
162. Adam LINDENHOVIUS .
Adam married Anna KEMENERUS.
The child from this marriage was: i. Margaretha Geertruyd LINDENHOVIUS
163. Anna KEMENERUS .
Anna married Adam LINDENHOVIUS.
188. Roelof Adriaensz VAN WYK died after 1686 in Cape Colony.
Roelof married Trjinje JANS.
The child from this marriage was: i. Arie VAN WYK (Stamvader)
189. Trjinje JANS died after 1686 in Cape Colony.
Trjinje married Roelof Adriaensz VAN WYK.
190. Hans HELM (Stamvader) was born in Netherlands and died in Cape Colony.
Hans married Geertruy WILLEMSE.
Children from this marriage were: i. Margaretha HELM was born in 1670 and was christened on 21 Jun 1671 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Dirkje HELM was born in 1671, was christened on 18 Jan 1672, and died in 1767 in Home of Claas Claasen at age 96. iii. Cornelia HELM iv. Maria HELM was born in 1675 and was christened on 24 Nov 1675. v. Geertruy HELM was born in 1678 and was christened on 29 Oct 1678.
191. Geertruy WILLEMSE .
Geertruy married Hans HELM (Stamvader).
Geertruy next married Gerrit JANZ (Stamvader) on 19 Mar 1690 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was: i. Johanna JANSEN was born in 1690 and was christened on 28 May 1690 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
194. Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader), son of Schalk Willemsz VAN DER MERWE and Unknown, was born in 1643 in Netherlands and died on 12 Jul 1716 in Cape Colony at age 73.
Willem married Elsje CLOETE on 9 Sep 1668 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Sophia VAN DER MERWE was born in 1670 and was christened on 2 Nov 1670 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Schalk VAN DER MERWE iii. Marritje VAN DER MERWE was born in 1675 and was christened on 29 Dec 1675 in Cape Town, Cape Province. Another name for Marritje was Maria. iv. Jacoba Jacomina VAN DER MERWE was born in 1678 and was christened on 22 May 1678. v. Jacob VAN DER MERWE was born in 1680 and was christened on 11 Feb 1680. vi. Petronella VAN DER MERWE was born in 1682 and was christened on 1 Mar 1682. vii. Aaltje VAN DER MERWE viii. Helena VAN DER MERWE was born in 1686 and was christened on 7 Apr 1686. Another name for Helena was Lena. ix. Pieter VAN DER MERWE was born in 1688 and was christened on 16 May 1688 in Cape Town, Cape Province. x. Magteld VAN DER MERWE xi. Ulya VAN DER MERWE was born in 1696 and was christened on 28 May 1696 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province. xii. Elsje VAN DER MERWE was born in 1697, was christened on 15 Jul 1697, and died on 18 Dec 1745 at age 48. xiii. Hendrik Willem VAN DER MERWE was born in 1698, was christened on 17 Aug 1698, and died on 23 Sep 1762 at age 64.
195. Elsje CLOETE, daughter of Jacob CLOETE (Stamvader) and Sophia RADEROOTJES, was born circa 1650 in Germany.
Elsje married Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) on 9 Sep 1668 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
196. Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader), son of Schalk Willemsz VAN DER MERWE and Unknown, was born in 1643 in Netherlands and died on 12 Jul 1716 in Cape Colony at age 73. (Duplicate. See Person 194 on Page 1)
197. Elsje CLOETE, daughter of Jacob CLOETE (Stamvader) and Sophia RADEROOTJES, was born circa 1650 in Germany. (Duplicate. See Person 195 on Page 1)
198. Charles PREVOST (Stamvader), son of Henri PREVOST and Jeanne DE FIEF, was born in 1650 in Dombray, Saint-Amand-les-Eau, France and died in Jul 1688 in Cape of Good Hope at age 38.
Charles married Marie LE FEBRE on 8 Oct 1673 in Guines, Calais, France.
Children from this marriage were: i. David PREVOST was born on 10 Mar 1675 in Marcq, France and died on 9 Feb 1685 in Marcq, France at age 9. ii. Marie PREVOST was born on 10 Feb 1678 in Marcq, France, was christened on 17 Feb 1678 in Calais, France, and died as an infant. iii. Abraham PREVOST was born on 24 May 1679 in Marcq, France. iv. Anne PREVOST v. Isabeau PREVOST was born on 31 Oct 1683 in Les Attaques, Marcq, France and died on 18 Jan 1750 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 66. vi. Jacques PREVOST was born on 29 May 1688 on the ship "De Schelde" and died circa 1690 in Cape Colony at age 2.
199. Marie LE FEBRE, daughter of David LE FEBRE (Stamvader) and Isabeau LE BLUE, was born circa 1651 in Marcq, France and died circa 1701 in Cape of Good Hope at age 50.
Marie married Charles PREVOST (Stamvader) on 8 Oct 1673 in Guines, Calais, France.
Marie next married Heinrich ECKHOFF (Stamvader) on 29 Aug 1688.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Matthys Hendrik ECKHOFF was born circa 1690 and died circa 1721 at age 31.
Marie next married Louis DE PERONNE (Stamvader) on 19 Oct 1692 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Maria Magdalena DE PERONNE was born circa 1694.
Marie next married Hercule DES PREZ, son of Hercule DES PREZ (Stamvader) and Cécile D'ATIS, in 1696.
206. Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader), son of Schalk Willemsz VAN DER MERWE and Unknown, was born in 1643 in Netherlands and died on 12 Jul 1716 in Cape Colony at age 73. (Duplicate. See Person 194 on Page 1)
207. Elsje CLOETE, daughter of Jacob CLOETE (Stamvader) and Sophia RADEROOTJES, was born circa 1650 in Germany. (Duplicate. See Person 195 on Page 1)
208. Berndt BURCHERDT (Stamvader) died in 1705.
Berndt married Marritje VAN DER MERWE.
Children from this marriage were: i. Barend BURGER was born in 1692 and was christened on 7 Sep 1692. ii. Willem BURGER iii. Andries BURGER iv. Helena BURGER was born in 1701 and was christened on 8 Jul 1701. v. Jacobus BURGER was born in 1704 and was christened on 3 Apr 1704.
209. Marritje VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) and Elsje CLOETE, was born in 1675 and was christened on 29 Dec 1675 in Cape Town, Cape Province. Another name for Marritje was Maria.
Marritje married Berndt BURCHERDT (Stamvader).
210. Schalk VAN DER MERWE, son of Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) and Elsje CLOETE, was born on 14 Jul 1673, was christened on 13 Aug 1673 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in 1740 in Cape Colony at age 67. (Duplicate. See Person 98 on Page 1)
211. Anne PREVOST, daughter of Charles PREVOST (Stamvader) and Marie LE FEBRE, was born on 18 Feb 1681 in Marcq, France and died circa 1745 in Cape Colony at age 64. (Duplicate. See Person 99 on Page 1)
212. Johannes SMIT (Stamvader) was born circa 1652 in Maastricht, Netherlands and died in Oct 1696 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 44. The cause of his death was Stab wounds. Another name for Johannes was Jan SMIT.
Johannes had a relationship with Lucretia VAN SENNEN. Marriage status: unmarried.
Their child was:
i. Christoffel SMIT was born in 1680 and was christened on 19 Nov 1680 in Delft, Netherlands.
Johannes married Adriana TOL on 4 Jan 1682 in Schipluiden, Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Joannis SMIT was born in 1683, was christened on 10 Jan 1683 in Delft, Netherlands, and died in Jul 1714 in Cape Colony at age 31. ii. Christoffel SMIT was born in 1688 and was christened on 9 May 1688 in Cape Town, Cape Province. iii. Jacobus SMIT iv. Hilletje SMIT was born in 1691, was christened on 1 Apr 1691 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in Jan 1761 in Cape Colony at age 70. v. Francois SMIT was born in 1693 in Cape Colony and died before 7 Sep 1758 in Cape Colony. vi. Alewyn SMIT vii. Johanna SMIT was born circa 1700 and was christened on 20 Jun 1700 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
213. Adriana TOL, daughter of Jacob Alewijnz TOL and Lijsbet Dircx VAN DER PIET, was born in 1656, was christened on 16 Jul 1656 in Delft, Netherlands, and died after 1722 in Cape Colony.
Adriana married Johannes SMIT (Stamvader) on 4 Jan 1682 in Schipluiden, Netherlands.
Adriana next married.
Adriana next married Andreas KUYPER on 11 Jan 1705 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
214. Peter BECKER (Stamvader) was born in 1673 in Germany and died between 1742 and 1747 in Robben Island, Cape Town. Another name for Peter was Pieter BEKKER.
Peter married Jeanne DE CLERQ.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Gideon BECKER was born in 1698 and died circa 1700 at age 2. ii. Hester BEKKER iii. Helena BEKKER was born in 1701 and was christened on 24 Dec 1701. iv. Stephanus BEKKER was born in 1705 and was christened on 16 Aug 1705 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province. v. Dorothea Maria BEKKER was born circa 1708 and died in 1770 at age 62. vi. Marthinus BEKKER was born in 1710, was christened on 14 Dec 1710 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died before 1753.
215. Jeanne DE CLERQ, daughter of Pierre DE CLERQ and Sara Barendts COCHET, was born in 1676 in Middelburg, Zeeland, Netherlands and was christened on 3 May 1676 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands. Another name for Jeanne was Johanna.
Jeanne married Peter BECKER (Stamvader).
Jeanne next married Andre GOUWS (Stamvader), son of Pierre GOUWS and Unknown, on 19 Aug 1691 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Pieter GOUWS was born circa 1693. ii. Sara GOUWS was born in 1694. iii. Jeanne GOUWS was born in 1695 and was christened on 25 Sep 1695. iv. Andries GOUWS was born in 1698.
Jeanne had a relationship with Mattheus DE MAKER. This couple did not marry.
Their child was: i. Johanna DE MAKER was born in 1714 and was christened on 30 Sep 1714 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
220. Berndt BURCHERDT (Stamvader) died in 1705. (Duplicate. See Person 208 on Page 1)
221. Marritje VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) and Elsje CLOETE, was born in 1675 and was christened on 29 Dec 1675 in Cape Town, Cape Province. Another name for Marritje was Maria. (Duplicate. See Person 209 on Page 1)
222. Schalk VAN DER MERWE, son of Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) and Elsje CLOETE, was born on 14 Jul 1673, was christened on 13 Aug 1673 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in 1740 in Cape Colony at age 67. (Duplicate. See Person 98 on Page 1)
223. Anne PREVOST, daughter of Charles PREVOST (Stamvader) and Marie LE FEBRE, was born on 18 Feb 1681 in Marcq, France and died circa 1745 in Cape Colony at age 64. (Duplicate. See Person 99 on Page 1)
228. Pierre DE CLERQ, son of Abraham DE CLERQ and Adriaenken Joos ONOFF, was born in 1643 in Netherlands, was christened on 4 Oct 1643 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands, and died between Oct 1678 and May 1686 in De Wal, Middelburg, Zeeland, Netherlands.
Pierre married Sara Barendts COCHET before 1670 in Netherlands.
229. Sara Barendts COCHET, daughter of Barendt Jansz COCHET and Jannetje Joosse VAN VOOREN, was born circa 1652 in Oosterhoebrug, Walcheren, Netherlands and died in Apr 1714 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 62. (Duplicate. See Person 75 on Page 1)
230. Jacques MOUTON (Stamvader) died in 1731.
Jacques married Catherine L'HERMITE. The marriage ended in divorce.
Jacques next married Marie DE VILLIERS in Flanders.
Children from this marriage were: i. Madeleine MOUTON ii. Marie MOUTON was born circa 1690 in Middelburg, Zeeland, Netherlands and died on 30 Aug 1714 in Executed at age 24. iii. Marguerite MOUTON was born in Apr 1699 on the ship "Donkervliet", was christened on 26 Jul 1699 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in 1732 in Cape Colony at age 33.
Jacques next married Francina BEVERNAGIE, daughter of (Unknown) BEVERNAGIE and Unknown, on 8 Oct 1700 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Abraham MOUTON was born in 1701 and was christened on 22 Jan 1702 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Jacob MOUTON was born in 1705 and was christened on 25 Apr 1706. iii. Martha MOUTON was born in 1709 and was christened on 12 May 1709. iv. Izak MOUTON was born in 1710 and was christened on 29 Mar 1711. v. Johanna MOUTON was born in 1713 and was christened on 17 Dec 1713. vi. Cornelia MOUTON vii. Susanna MOUTON was born in 1703 and was christened on 7 Oct 1703 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
231. Marie DE VILLIERS, daughter of Jean DE VILLIERS and Francoise JOING, was born on 9 Nov 1673, was christened on 12 Nov 1673 in Guines, Calais, France, and died in Apr 1699 on the ship "Donkervliet" at age 25.
Marie married Jacques MOUTON (Stamvader) in Flanders.
232. Johannes SMIT (Stamvader) was born circa 1652 in Maastricht, Netherlands and died in Oct 1696 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 44. The cause of his death was Stab wounds. Another name for Johannes was Jan SMIT. (Duplicate. See Person 212 on Page 1)
233. Adriana TOL, daughter of Jacob Alewijnz TOL and Lijsbet Dircx VAN DER PIET, was born in 1656, was christened on 16 Jul 1656 in Delft, Netherlands, and died after 1722 in Cape Colony. (Duplicate. See Person 213 on Page 1)
234. Floris SLABBERT (Stamvader), son of Maerten Adriaensen SLABBERT and Janneken LORMYE, was born in 1656, was christened on 7 Oct 1656 in Aagtekerke, Zeeland, Netherlands, and died circa 1732 in Cape Colony at age 76.
Floris married Huibrecht JASPERSE on 15 Apr 1684 in Aagtekerke, Zeeland, Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were: i. Neeltje SLABBERT was born in 1685 and was christened on 29 Apr 1685 in Meliskerke, Walcheren, Zeeland, Netherlands. ii. Jannetje SLABBERT was born circa 1687. iii. Jasper SLABBERT was born circa 1689 in Middelburg, Zeeland, Netherlands. iv. Lijsbeth SLABBERT v. Maerten SLABBERT was born in 1694, was christened on 24 Oct 1694 in Meliskerke, Walcheren, Zeeland, Netherlands, and died in 1695 in Meliskerke, Walcheren, Zeeland, Netherlands at age 1. vi. Maerten SLABBERT was born in 1696, was christened on 22 Jul 1696 in Meliskerke, Walcheren, Zeeland, Netherlands, and died in 1713 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 17. vii. Maatje SLABBERT was born in 1698, was christened on 13 Apr 1698 in Meliskerke, Walcheren, Zeeland, Netherlands, and died in 1775 in Cape Colony at age 77. viii. Pieter SLABBERT was born in 1701, was christened on 21 Aug 1701 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died after Aug 1730 in Cape Colony. ix. Gideon SLABBERT was born in 1706 and was christened on 31 Jan 1706 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
235. Huibrecht JASPERSE, daughter of Jasper JANSE and Neeltje HUYBREGTS, was born circa 1660 in Westkapelle, Netherlands and died before Nov 1730 in Cape Colony.
Huibrecht married Floris SLABBERT (Stamvader) on 15 Apr 1684 in Aagtekerke, Zeeland, Netherlands.
236. Joost Pieterz VAN DYK (Stamvader), son of (Unknown) VAN DYK and Unknown, was born in Ysenberg, Flanders and died in Cape Colony.
Joost married Catharina VERBURGH on 4 Mar 1696 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Burgert Pieter VAN DYK ii. Sybrand VAN DYK was born in 1712. iii. Andries VAN DYK was born in 1714 and was christened on 12 Aug 1714 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Joost had a relationship with Elisabeth VAN WYK, daughter of Willem VAN WYK (Stamvader) and Anna PIETERS. This couple did not marry.
Their children were: i. Willem VAN DYK was born in 1701, was christened on 24 Apr 1701 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died before 1733. ii. Johannes VAN DYK was born in 1705, was christened on 14 Jan 1705 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died circa 1706 at age 1.
237. Catharina VERBURGH .
Catharina married Joost Pieterz VAN DYK (Stamvader) on 4 Mar 1696 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
238. Johannes VISSER .
Johannes married Maria VAN NEGAPATNAM.
The child from this marriage was: i. Maria VISSER
239. Maria VAN NEGAPATNAM .
Maria married Johannes VISSER.
240. Daniel HUGOT (Stamvader), son of Jacque HUGOT and Jeanne BARBIER, was born in May 1664 in Serzey-les-Maupas, France and died in Mar 1725 in Cape Colony at age 60.
Daniel married Anne ROSSOUW in Jan 1705 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Jacques HUGO was born circa 1708 and died in 1745 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 37. Another name for Jacques was Jacob HUGO. ii. Pierre HUGO iii. Anna HUGO was born in 1714 and was christened on 14 Feb 1714. iv. Elisabeth HUGO was born in 1722, was christened on 12 Jul 1722 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died on 17 Oct 1782 at age 60. v. Daniel HUGO was born in 1724, was christened on 11 Jun 1724, and died in Nov 1754 at age 30.
241. Anne ROSSOUW, daughter of Pierre ROSSEAU (Stamvader) and Anne RETIEF, was born in 1691, was christened on 8 Jul 1691 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died on 28 Feb 1753 on farm "Bethel", Paarl at age 62.
Anne married Daniel HUGOT (Stamvader) in Jan 1705 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Anne next married Jean BLIGNAUT (Stamvader), son of Pierre BLIGNAUT and Isabeau DESORDES, on 4 Nov 1725 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Jan BLIGNAUT was born in 1728 and was christened on 20 Jun 1728. ii. Hester BLIGNAUT was born in 1729 and was christened on 7 Aug 1729. iii. Pieter BLIGNAUT was born in 1731 and was christened on 4 Feb 1731. iv. Maria Magdalena BLIGNAUT was born in 1733 and was christened on 1 Nov 1733.
242. Francois RETIEF (Stamvader) was born on 2 Feb 1663 in Mer, Blois, France and died on 13 Sep 1721 in Het Land Van Waveren, Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 58.
Francois married Marie MOUY on 2 May 1700.
Children from this marriage were: i. Marie RETIEF was born on 16 May 1702, was christened on 10 Sep 1702, and died circa 1738 at age 36. ii. Anne RETIEF iii. Francois RETIEF was born on 7 Apr 1708, was christened on 25 Jul 1708, and died circa 1789 in Wagenmakers Valley, Stellenbosch at age 81. iv. Paul RETIEF was born in 1714 and was christened on 7 Oct 1714. v. Esther RETIEF was born on 1 Feb 1719 and died on 15 Apr 1805 at age 86. vi. Magdalena RETIEF was born in 1720, was christened on 22 Dec 1720, and died on 10 Apr 1817 at age 97.
243. Marie MOUY, daughter of Pierre MOUY (Stamvader) and Unknown, was born on 15 May 1685 in France and died on 21 Sep 1758 in Het Land Van Waveren, Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 73.
Marie married Francois RETIEF (Stamvader) on 2 May 1700.
244. Schalk VAN DER MERWE, son of Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) and Elsje CLOETE, was born on 14 Jul 1673, was christened on 13 Aug 1673 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in 1740 in Cape Colony at age 67. (Duplicate. See Person 98 on Page 1)
245. Anne PREVOST, daughter of Charles PREVOST (Stamvader) and Marie LE FEBRE, was born on 18 Feb 1681 in Marcq, France and died circa 1745 in Cape Colony at age 64. (Duplicate. See Person 99 on Page 1)
246. Claas Jansz VAN RENSBURG (Stamvader) was born circa 1661 and died circa 1728 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 67. (Duplicate. See Person 102 on Page 1)
247. Aaltje VAN DER MERWE, daughter of Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) and Elsje CLOETE, was born on 30 Mar 1684, was christened on 23 Apr 1684 in Cape Town, Cape Province, died on 30 Sep 1729 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 45, and was buried in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province. (Duplicate. See Person 103 on Page 1)
248. Johannes PRETORIUS (Stamvader), son of Wessel Schout PRETORIUS and Josynthe Claesdochter VAN EGMOND, was born in 1642, was christened on 16 Oct 1642 in Oude Kerk, Goeree-Overflakkee, Netherlands, and died on 30 Apr 1694 in Cape Town, Cape Province at age 52.
Johannes married Geertruyda MEINTJIES on 18 Nov 1673 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Wessel PRETORIUS was born in 1674 and was christened on 3 Jun 1674 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Johannes next married Johanna VICTOR on 28 Feb 1677 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Josina PRETORIUS was born in 1678 and was christened on 27 Oct 1678 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Johannes PRETORIUS iii. Jeanetta PRETORIUS was born in 1682, was christened on 11 Oct 1682, and died before 1720. iv. Lodewyk PRETORIUS was born in 1688, was christened on 5 Sep 1688 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in Apr 1718 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 30. v. Elisabeth PRETORIUS was born in 1690 and was christened on 17 Sep 1690.
249. Johanna VICTOR, daughter of Cornelis VICTOR and Cornelia Jacoba JUNIUS, was born in 1691 and was christened on 15 Apr 1691.
Johanna married Johannes PRETORIUS (Stamvader) on 28 Feb 1677 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Johanna next married Johannes STERRENBERG on 28 Oct 1696 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
250. Johannes VOSLOO (Stamvader) was born circa 1649 in Germany and died in 1732 in Cape Town, Cape Province at age 83.
Johannes married Helena FROM MALABAR.
Children from this marriage were: i. Johannes VOSLOO was born circa 1685. ii. Martha VOSLOO was born circa 1686 and died on 3 Oct 1724 at age 38. iii. Helena VOSLOO
251. Helena FROM MALABAR .
Helena married Johannes VOSLOO (Stamvader).
254. Pierre JOUBERT (Stamvader) was born circa 1664 in La Motte d'Aigues, Provence and died on 30 Jun 1732 in Cape Colony at age 68.
Pierre married Susanne REYNE on 1 Feb 1688 in Waalse Kerk, Brielle.
Pierre next married Isabeau RICHARD in Aug 1688 on the ship "Berg China" on the way to Cape of Good Hope.
Children from this marriage were: i. Josúe JOUBERT was born circa 1689. ii. Jacques JOUBERT was born in 1691. Another name for Jacques was Jacob. iii. Isabeau JOUBERT was born in 1692. Another name for Isabeau was Elizabeth. iv. Pierre JOUBERT was born in 1694 and died before Sep 1730. v. Jean JOUBERT was born in 1695, was christened on 7 Dec 1795 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died before 16 Mar 1738. vi. Francoise JOUBERT was born in 1697 and was christened on 11 Nov 1697 in Paarl, Cape Province. Another name for Francoise was Francina. vii. Louise JOUBERT was born in 1699, was christened on 6 Dec 1699 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died circa 1764 at age 65. viii. Gideon JOUBERT was born on 14 Aug 1704 and died in 1738 at age 34. ix. Maria JOUBERT was born circa 1704 and died before 24 Apr 1746. x. Francois JOUBERT was born in 1706, was christened on 28 Nov 1706 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died in 1758 at age 52. xi. Rachel JOUBERT
255. Isabeau RICHARD was born in 1668 in France and died in 1748 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 80.
Isabeau married Pierre MALAN (Stamvader).
Isabeau next married Pierre JOUBERT (Stamvader) in Aug 1688 on the ship "Berg China" on the way to Cape of Good Hope.
Ninth Generation (6th Great-Grandparents)
388. Schalk Willemsz VAN DER MERWE, son of Willem VAN DER MERWE and Unknown, was born circa 1620 in Netherlands.
Schalk married.
His children were: i. Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader) ii. Dirk Schalksz VAN DER MERWE was born in 1648 in Netherlands. iii. Joost Schalksz VAN DER MERWE
390. Jacob CLOETE (Stamvader) was born in Germany and died on 23 May 1693 in Cape Colony.
Jacob married Sophia RADEROOTJES.
Children from this marriage were: i. Elsje CLOETE ii. Gerrit CLOETE was born circa 1652 in Germany. Another name for Gerrit was Gerhard Jacobus CLOETE. iii. Catharina CLOETE was born in 1660 and was christened on 4 Apr 1660 in Cape Town, Cape Province. iv. Coenraad CLOETE was born in 1663 and was christened on 23 Apr 1663 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
391. Sophia RADEROOTJES, daughter of (Unknown) RADEROOTJES and Unknown. Another name for Sophia is Fytjie RADEROOTJES.
Sophia married Jacob CLOETE (Stamvader).
396. Henri PREVOST .
Henri married Jeanne DE FIEF.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Charles PREVOST (Stamvader) ii. Jeanne PREVOST
397. Jeanne DE FIEF .
Jeanne married Henri PREVOST.
398. David LE FEBRE (Stamvader) .
David married Isabeau LE BLUE.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Marie LE FEBRE
399. Isabeau LE BLUE died in 1678 in Linques, Ardres, France.
Isabeau married David LE FEBRE (Stamvader).
Isabeau next married Henri RIARE.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Marie RIARE
418. Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE (Stamvader), son of Schalk Willemsz VAN DER MERWE and Unknown, was born in 1643 in Netherlands and died on 12 Jul 1716 in Cape Colony at age 73. (Duplicate. See Person 194 on Page 1)
419. Elsje CLOETE, daughter of Jacob CLOETE (Stamvader) and Sophia RADEROOTJES, was born circa 1650 in Germany. (Duplicate. See Person 195 on Page 1)
426. Jacob Alewijnz TOL, son of Alewijn Jacobsz TOL and Maritgen JOOSTEN, was born circa 1607, died in Sep 1662 in Delft, Netherlands at age 55, and was buried on 10 Sep 1662 in Sint Joris Kapel, Oude Kerk, Delft.
Jacob married Lijsbet Dircx VAN DER PIET on 3 Mar 1647 in Delft, Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were: i. Marija TOL was born in 1647, was christened on 15 Dec 1647 in Delft, Netherlands, and died in 1669 in Delft, Netherlands at age 22. ii. Adriana TOL was born in 1649, was christened on 29 Jul 1649 in Delft, Netherlands, died in 1652 in Delft, Netherlands at age 3, and was buried on 16 Feb 1652 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. iii. Elsje TOL was born in 1651, was christened on 2 Mar 1651 in Delft, Netherlands, died in 1652 in Delft, Netherlands at age 1, and was buried on 14 Sep 1652 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. iv. Alewijn TOL was born in 1654, was christened on 8 Mar 1654 in Delft, Netherlands, died in 1674 in Delft, Netherlands at age 20, and was buried on 7 Mar 1674 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. v. Adriana TOL vi. Dirck TOL was born in 1658, was christened on 8 Dec 1658 in Delft, Netherlands, and died after 1684. vii. Willem Jacobsz TOL was born in 1660 and was christened on 9 Dec 1660 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
427. Lijsbet Dircx VAN DER PIET, daughter of Dirck Tonisz VAN DER PIET and Ariaentgen PLEUNIS, was born in 1626 in Delft, Netherlands, was christened on 22 Nov 1626 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands, died in Mar 1692 in Delft, Netherlands at age 66, and was buried on 18 Mar 1692 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
Lijsbet married Jacob Alewijnz TOL on 3 Mar 1647 in Delft, Netherlands.
430. Pierre DE CLERQ, son of Abraham DE CLERQ and Adriaenken Joos ONOFF, was born in 1643 in Netherlands, was christened on 4 Oct 1643 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands, and died between Oct 1678 and May 1686 in De Wal, Middelburg, Zeeland, Netherlands. (Duplicate. See Person 228 on Page 1)
431. Sara Barendts COCHET, daughter of Barendt Jansz COCHET and Jannetje Joosse VAN VOOREN, was born circa 1652 in Oosterhoebrug, Walcheren, Netherlands and died in Apr 1714 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 62. (Duplicate. See Person 75 on Page 1)
456. Abraham DE CLERQ was born in Westzouburg, Netherlands and died in Netherlands.
Abraham married Adriaenken Joos ONOFF.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Susanna DE CLERQ was born in 1631 and was christened on 5 Oct 1631 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands. ii. Aernout DE CLERQ was born on 8 Oct 1635 and was christened on 9 Oct 1635 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands. iii. Stoffelinjtje DE CLERQ was born on 3 Jan 1638 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands. iv. Susanneken DE CLERQ was born on 12 May 1641 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands. v. Pierre DE CLERQ vi. Adriaenken DE CLERQ was born on 2 Apr 1646 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands.
457. Adriaenken Joos ONOFF .
Adriaenken married Abraham DE CLERQ.
462. Jean DE VILLIERS .
Jean married Francoise JOING.
The child from this marriage was: i. Marie DE VILLIERS
463. Francoise JOING .
Francoise married Jean DE VILLIERS.
468. Maerten Adriaensen SLABBERT .
Maerten married Janneken LORMYE.
Children from this marriage were: i. Pieter SLABBERT ii. Gideon SLABBERT was born in 1659 and was christened on 15 Jun 1659 in Aagtekerke, Zeeland, Netherlands. iii. Floris SLABBERT (Stamvader) iv. Jeremias SLABBERT was born in 1654, was christened on 27 Sep 1654 in Aagtekerke, Zeeland, Netherlands, and died before Sep 1733 in Netherlands.
469. Janneken LORMYE .
Janneken married Maerten Adriaensen SLABBERT.
470. Jasper JANSE died in 1718 in Netherlands.
Jasper married Neeltje HUYBREGTS.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Huibrecht JASPERSE ii. Matje JASPERSE was born circa 1663.
471. Neeltje HUYBREGTS .
Neeltje married Jasper JANSE.
472. (Unknown) VAN DYK .
(Unknown) married.
His children were:
i. Burgert Pieters VAN DYK (Stamvader) was born in Ysenberg, Flanders and died in 1723 in farm "Leeuwenhoek", Drakenstein, Cape Province. ii. Joost Pieterz VAN DYK (Stamvader)
480. Jacque HUGOT .
Jacque married Jeanne BARBIER.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Daniel HUGOT (Stamvader)
481. Jeanne BARBIER .
Jeanne married Jacque HUGOT.
482. Pierre ROSSEAU (Stamvader) was born circa 1666 in Mer, Loire, France and died circa 1719 in Het Land Van Waveren, Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 53.
Pierre married Anne RETIEF circa 1689.
Children from this marriage were: i. Anne ROSSOUW ii. Marie ROSSOUW was born in 1693 in Paarl, Cape Province. iii. Magdalene ROSSOUW was born in 1695, was christened on 26 Feb 1695 in Paarl, Cape Province, died on 2 Oct 1780 in Het Land Van Waveren, Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 85, and was buried in Tulbagh, Cape Province. iv. Elisabeth ROSSOUW was born in 1696, was christened on 14 Oct 1696, and died on 15 Feb 1785 at age 89. v. Martha ROSSOUW was born in 1698, was christened on 28 Jul 1698 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died on 28 Oct 1760 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 62. vi. Pierre ROSSOUW was born in 1700, was christened on 3 May 1700, and died before 1703. vii. Gabriel ROSSOUW was born in 1701, was christened on 14 Aug 1701 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died on 2 Jan 1727 at age 26. viii. Aletta ROSSOUW was born in 1702. ix. Pierre ROSSOUW was born in 1703 and was christened on 2 Sep 1703. Another name for Pierre was Pieter ROSSOUW. x. Daniel ROSSOUW was born in 1707 and was christened on 9 Oct 1707.
Pierre next married Geertruy DU TOIT, daughter of Francois DU TOIT (Stamvader) and Susanne SEUGNET, on 7 Dec 1710 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
483. Anne RETIEF was born circa 1667 in Mer In Orleans, France and died circa 1710 in Cape Colony at age 43.
Anne married Pierre ROSSEAU (Stamvader) circa 1689.
486. Pierre MOUY (Stamvader) died in 1735 in Cape Colony.
Pierre married.
His children were: i. Jeanne MOUY was born circa 1683 in France. ii. Marie MOUY
496. Wessel Schout PRETORIUS, son of Barend Wesselzoon SCHULTE and Aaltje JANSDOCHTER, was born in Oct 1614 in Leiden, Netherlands and died in 1664 in Emmerik, Netherlands at age 50.
Wessel married Josynthe Claesdochter VAN EGMOND on 16 Jun 1641 in Haarlem, Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were: i. Johannes PRETORIUS (Stamvader) ii. Catharina PRETORIUS was born in 1644 in Netherlands. iii. Maria PRETORIUS was born in 1645 in Netherlands. iv. Barnardus PRETORIUS was born in 1649 in Netherlands. v. Alida PRETORIUS was born in 1650 in Netherlands. vi. Anna Margaretha PRETORIUS was born in 1652 in Netherlands. vii. Hester PRETORIUS was born in 1653 in Netherlands.
497. Josynthe Claesdochter VAN EGMOND .
Josynthe married Wessel Schout PRETORIUS on 16 Jun 1641 in Haarlem, Netherlands.
498. Cornelis VICTOR, son of Gerrit VICTOR (Stamvader) and Christina VAN DEN BERG, was born in 1667 and was christened on 26 Oct 1667.
Cornelis married Cornelia Jacoba JUNIUS on 8 Aug 1688.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Johanna VICTOR was born in 1689, was christened on 26 Jun 1689, and died circa 1691 at age 2. ii. Agatha VICTOR was born in 1693 and was christened on 25 Dec 1693. iii. Gerrit VICTOR was born circa 1695. iv. Christiaan VICTOR was born circa 1697. v. Wynand VICTOR was born circa 1699 in Cape Colony. vi. Johanna VICTOR
499. Cornelia Jacoba JUNIUS .
Cornelia married Cornelis VICTOR on 8 Aug 1688.
Tenth Generation (7th Great-Grandparents)
776. Willem VAN DER MERWE .
Willem married.
His children were:
i. Schalk Willemsz VAN DER MERWE ii. Pieter Willemsz VAN DER MERWE was born circa 1622. iii. Dirck Willemsz VAN DER MERWE
782. (Unknown) RADEROOTJES .
(Unknown) married.
His children were:
i. Sophia RADEROOTJES ii. Peter RADEROOTJES
852. Alewijn Jacobsz TOL, son of Jacob ALEWIJNSZ and Unknown, died in 1621 and was buried on 5 Jul 1621 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
Alewijn married Maritgen JOOSTEN on 20 Aug 1606 in Delft, Netherlands.
The child from this marriage was: i. Jacob Alewijnz TOL
853. Maritgen JOOSTEN died in 1644 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 25 Aug 1644 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
Maritgen married Alewijn Jacobsz TOL on 20 Aug 1606 in Delft, Netherlands.
Maritgen next married Jacob Gillisz VAN HASSEL on 2 Jan 1622 in Delft, Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were: i. Alewijn VAN HASSEL was born in 1622 in Delft, Netherlands, was christened on 27 Oct 1622 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands, died in Nov 1622 in Delft, Netherlands, and was buried on 10 Nov 1622 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. ii. Aernout Jacobsz VAN HASSEL was born in 1622, was christened on 27 Oct 1622 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands, died in Feb 1650 in Delft, Netherlands at age 28, and was buried on 21 Feb 1650 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. iii. Alewijn VAN HASSEL was born in 1626, was christened on 7 Jan 1626 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands, died in 1626 in Delft, Netherlands, and was buried on 7 Apr 1626 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
Maritgen next married Dirck Cornelisz BUIJCK on 27 Mar 1639 in Delft, Netherlands.
854. Dirck Tonisz VAN DER PIET, son of Tonis Symonsz VAN DER PIET and Lysbetge DIRCX, died in Dec 1660 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 1 Jan 1661 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
Dirck married Ariaentgen PLEUNIS on 22 Dec 1619 in Delft, Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were: i. Engeltje VAN DER PIET was born in 1620, was christened on 6 Dec 1620 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands, died in Apr 1699 in Delft, Netherlands at age 79, and was buried on 29 Apr 1699 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. ii. Pleunis VAN DER PIET was born in 1623, was christened on 19 Feb 1623 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands, died in Aug 1669 in Delft, Netherlands at age 46, and was buried on 21 Aug 1669 in Sint Joris Kapel, Oude Kerk, Delft. iii. Applonia VAN DER PIET was born in 1624 and was christened on 26 Jul 1624 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. iv. Lijsbet Dircx VAN DER PIET v. Gerrit VAN DER PIET was born in 1632, was christened on 12 Apr 1632 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands, died in Sep 1701 in Delft, Netherlands at age 69, and was buried on 27 Sep 1701 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. vi. Grietge VAN DER PIET was born in 1634, was christened on 29 Oct 1634 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands, and died before 1658 in Delft, Netherlands. vii. Anthonij VAN DER PIET was born in 1636 and was christened on 13 Jan 1636 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. viii. Arrijantgen VAN DER PIET was born circa 1640.
Dirck next married Ariaentgen TIJSSEN on 31 May 1656 in Delft, Netherlands.
855. Ariaentgen PLEUNIS, daughter of Pleunis JOOSTEN and Engeltgen ARIENTS, died in Nov 1655 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 26 Nov 1655 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
Ariaentgen married Dirck Tonisz VAN DER PIET on 22 Dec 1619 in Delft, Netherlands.
992. Barend Wesselzoon SCHULTE was born in 1596 in Schuttorf, Hannover, Germany and died on 23 Oct 1669 in Leiden, Netherlands at age 73.
Barend married Aaltje JANSDOCHTER on 6 May 1612 in Leiden, Netherlands.
The child from this marriage was: i. Wessel Schout PRETORIUS
Barend next married Annetgen Jacobsdochter VAN EGMOND on 19 Apr 1643 in Leiden, Netherlands.
993. Aaltje JANSDOCHTER was born circa 1596 and died circa 1642 in Leiden, Netherlands at age 46.
Aaltje married Barend Wesselzoon SCHULTE on 6 May 1612 in Leiden, Netherlands.
996. Gerrit VICTOR (Stamvader) .
Gerrit married Christina VAN DEN BERG on 16 Jan 1667.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Cornelis VICTOR ii. Jacobus VICTOR was born circa 1669 in Negombo, Ceylon.
997. Christina VAN DEN BERG . Another name for Christina is Styntje VAN DEN BERG.
Christina married Gerrit VICTOR (Stamvader) on 16 Jan 1667.
11th Generation (8th Great-Grandparents)
1704. Jacob ALEWIJNSZ died in 1608 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 10 Jan 1608 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
Jacob married.
His children were: i. Alewijn Jacobsz TOL ii. Maritgen Jacobsdochter TOL died in 1633 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 22 Dec 1633 in North Transept, in the Choir, Nieuwe Kerk, Delft. iii. Sara Jacobsdochter TOL died on 9 Sep 1642 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 12 Sep 1642 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. iv. Jannetgen Jacobsdochter TOL died in May 1636 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 28 May 1636 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. v. Willem Jacobsz TOL died in Mar 1622 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 7 Mar 1622 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
1708. Tonis Symonsz VAN DER PIET died in Aug 1636 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 6 Aug 1636 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
Tonis married Lysbetge DIRCX on 5 Jul 1586 in Delft, Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were: i. Simon Tonisz VAN DER PIET ii. Dirck Tonisz VAN DER PIET iii. Davit Tonisz VAN DER PIET died in 1667 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 12 Jan 1667 in Nieuwe Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. iv. Bastiaen Antonisz VAN DER PIET v. Willempge Teunis VAN DER PIET vi. Maertge Thonisdochter VAN DER PIET
Tonis next married Duijfgen CRIJNEN on 20 Mar 1622 in Delft, Netherlands.
1709. Lysbetge DIRCX .
Lysbetge married Tonis Symonsz VAN DER PIET on 5 Jul 1586 in Delft, Netherlands.
1710. Pleunis JOOSTEN was born in 1567 in Rotterdam, Netherlands, died in Jun 1618 in Delft, Netherlands at age 51, and was buried on 26 Jun 1618 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
Pleunis married Engeltgen ARIENTS on 4 Apr 1587 in Delft, Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Gerrit Pleunisz FIJCK died in May 1628 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 5 May 1628 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands. ii. Ariaentgen PLEUNIS
Pleunis next married Trijntgen WIJBRANTS on 20 Jan 1602 in Delft, Netherlands.
1711. Engeltgen ARIENTS died in Oct 1601 in Delft, Netherlands and was buried on 10 Oct 1601 in Oude Kerk, Delft, Netherlands.
Engeltgen married Pleunis JOOSTEN on 4 Apr 1587 in Delft, Netherlands.
Boodskap 3a. Re: Vir Berna- Steeds Adriana (oba Ariana) Posted by: "Johan Vermeulen" [email protected] johanvermsa Sat Jan 5, 2008 2:20 am (PST)
Goeie dag Simon,
Is die sterftedatum 10 of 16 Desember 1809.?
Ek het dit as 16 Desember.
Groete
Johan.
Boodskap 3b. Steeds Adriana (oba Ariana) Posted by: "Simon du Plooy" [email protected] sjdp1951 Sat Jan 5, 2008 12:40 pm (PST)
Johan -Ek stem saam met 16 Desember 1809-weer 'n "vingerfout" van my kant af. - Aaklig en nie verskoonbaar nie!
Simon (Ariaantjie hou ons behoorlik besig!)
Simon.
Boodskap 4a. Re: BURGER herkoms Posted by: "Paul Bosman" [email protected] paul5016 Sat Jan 5, 2008 2:50 am (PST)
Dagsê Sarel, Johan ea vriende
Het julle al vasgestel waar die Burger-stamvader vandaan kom, asook die besonderhede van sy sesde kind?
Ons het in 2004 ‘n dr Nicolaas Albertus (Nick) BURGER in van Rhynsdorp besoek. Hy is ‘n afgetrede historikus van Potch Univ, het verskeie boeke geskryf en heelwat navorsing oor die herkoms van die Burgers gedoen. Hy beweer oa dat die Burgers afstammelinge van die Leviete is en later via Duitsland van Frankryk na Suid-Afrika gekom het. (Vgl “Rigters onder die Suiderkruis” en “Trekkersweë”, beide geskryf deur dr NA Burger en is ook by hom beskikbaar). As my berekenings reg is, is sy stamkode: b3c2d7e5f1g5h3i2j2.
Hoop julle vind baat hierby.
Groetnis Paul D Bosman ------my grootjies: BOSMAN X DE VILLIERS / VERSTER X DE KLERK / FROST X VON BENECKE / SYMINGTON X PIENAAR Ria s'n: BURGER X MOSTERT / MOSTERT X BRAND / KRUGER X VORSTER / KUHN X BREDENHAHN Posbus 1787 Rayton 1001 Tel: 012 802 1009, sel: 082 851 4039, Faks: 0866 581829 of 012 802 1009
Boodskap 4b. Re: BURGER herkoms Posted by: "David Jamieson" [email protected] davidkjamieson Sat Jan 5, 2008 7:13 am (PST)
Goeie Middag Sarel,
Baie interesante inligting oor die Burger familie.
Ek het een keer gelees dat die S. Afrikaanse Burger's vanaf Joodse afkom's was en vanaf Silesia ( tussen Duitsland en Poland ) oorspronklik gekom het. Miskien was daar wel 'n konneksie met die Leviete maar meeste van die ou rekord's is seker deur die Romeine in 70 Na Kristus, verniettig toe hulle Jerusalem aangeval en verwoes het.
Ons hoop om meer oor hierdie stamlyn te leer in die toekom's.
Groete uit 'n koel Skotland.
David Montrose Angus
My Grootjies : Steyn/Bresler x Bresler/Burger x Horne/ Jamieson
Boodskap 5. Namibië - Boedels Posted by: "Paul Bosman" [email protected] paul5016 Sat Jan 5, 2008 2:58 am (PST)
Dagsê Vriende
Het enige een raad oor hoe om boedel inligting uit Namibië te bekom?
Groetnis Paul D Bosman ------my grootjies: BOSMAN X DE VILLIERS / VERSTER X DE KLERK / FROST X VON BENECKE / SYMINGTON X PIENAAR Ria s'n: BURGER X MOSTERT / MOSTERT X BRAND / KRUGER X VORSTER / KUHN X BREDENHAHN Posbus 1787 Rayton 1001 Tel: 012 802 1009, sel: 082 851 4039, Faks: 0866 581829 of 012 802 1009
Boodskap 6a. Re: de Villiers hulp benodig asb Posted by: "Karin Serfontein" [email protected] Sat Jan 5, 2008 5:16 am (PST)
Hallo Richard,
Baie dankie vir die inligting van Jurie Johannes De Villiers, ek waardeer jou hulp oneindig baie. Is daar dalk enige fotos in die boek van Jurie of sy familie?
Weereens dankie,
Geniet die dag,
Karin.
Boodskap 7a. Re: Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, President van die Republiek van Stel Posted by: "Janet Melville" [email protected] jmelvillexsinetcoza Sat Jan 5, 2008 5:21 am (PST)
Een van die van Niekerks is met n van der Merwe getroud en ek het die sterfkennis vir die pa en Gerrit gekry
Hiermee wat ek het e11 Johannes Antonie *30.09.1822 =Graaff-Reinet 17. 11.1822 +Niekerksrust, dist Bloemhof; 66jr 8mde 19dae 19.06.1889 : geen beroep en geen testament; geteken te Hartsrivier dist Bloemhof deur L.E. Willeman × ?? met Van Heerden,Martha Maria *10.04.1828 =Graaff-Reinet 07.07.1828 +Kerkstraat 23, Hopetown; 31jr 3mde 27dae 07.07.1858 {d.v. Van Heerden,Schalk Willem *1801 & Erasmus,Rachel Catharina Johanna *31.03.1807} f1 Johanna Catharina *?? 1847 f2 Gerrit Jacobus *Poortjie, Fauresmith 06.07.1849 =Sendelingsfontein (Fauresmith) 21.11.1849 +Pretoria 23.10.1896 : President van die Republiek Stellaland wat op 23 Maart 1885 onder Britse beheer geplaas is. Die gebied noord van die Moloporivier is tot Britse protektoraat verklaar, terwyl die gebied ten suide daarvan waarin Selland geleë is, tot 'n Britse Kroonkolonie gepraklameer is; hy is Commisaris van Polisie met sy afsterwe; blykbaar 'n welgestelde man hy besit die plase Bellevue, Kromellenbogen 108, distrik Bloemhof, Granspan dist Lichtenburg en Niekerksrus × 1867 ?? met Roos,Hester Cecilia *19.12.1853 =Richmond 11.02.1854 : sy onderteken 'n ooreenkoms om die 2/3 van die plaas Kromellenboogh No 108 Onder Vaalrivier, dist Bloemhof, groot 3308 morg 422 roode te verkoop aan Adam Jameson as Kommisaris van van Lande vir die government vir diamanet delivery {d.v. Roos,Johannes Stephanus *05.08.1820 & Du Plooy,Maria Catharina *29.10.1826} g1 Johannes Antonie *Niekerksrus ?? 1868 + Paardeberg; 30jr 20.02.1900 : S/K geteken deur Rooikruis; hy is bekend as Johannes van Niekerk (begenaamd Oubaas) van Niekerksrust, Postkantoor Schweizer Reinecke, wyk Hartsrivier dist Bloemhof; hy is Commandant Transvaal Polisie en `border commisioner'; sy boedel is bankrot; op sy S/K hy is Johannes Anthony × Rautenbach,Margaretha Isabella *13.10.1876 =Bethlehem 18.12.1876 h1 Jan Jacobus *06.09.1895 h2 Magdalena Alberta *17.12.1896 h3 Hester Susanna *28.08.1898 h4 Johannes Anthony *28.07.1900 g2 Maria Catharina *?? 1870 × Oelofse,Nicolaas Petrus *?? 1870 : hy skryf op 15 Mei 1901, vanaf Bulawayo waar hy 'n `refugee' is, 'n brief aan die meester van die Hooggeregshof, Pretoria om geld te vra vir die onderhoud van drie minderjarige kinders van Gerrit Jacobus van Niekerk, nl, Hester Cecilia, Maria Adriana en Paul. Hy het by De Villiers en De Kock van Pretoria aansoek gedoen. Hy ontvang 235 pond vir die tydperk 1 April 1900 tot Julie 1901 teen 5 pond per maand, asook vervoer per spoor van Warmbad naar Pietersburg en hotel koste te Pietersburg vir Hester en Maria; op 23 September is hy in Pretoria waar hy weer aansoek doen vir onderhoud vir dieselfde kinders g3 Martha Maria *07.04.1873 +Windhoek 17.09. 1953 × 29.09.1897 Niekerksrust met De Jager ,Matthys Johan *Beaufort-Wes 23.01.1872 +09.10.1939 g4 Gerrit Jacobus *?? 1876 g5 Hester Cecilia *14.09.1880 : x A.C. van Ravenswaaij g6 Paulus Johannes Stephanus *14.11.1882 +11. 02.1929 ΩPotchefstroom × Du Plessis,Margaretha Jacoba *17. 10.1898 h1 Norman Francis *Potchefstroom 12.04.1929 + Jeffreysbaai 25.04.2000 × Van der Merwe,Alida Maria *Keimoes 06.10.1930 : woon Jeffriesbaai 2007 {d.v. Van der Merwe,Louis Roelof *04.04.1900 & Grobler,Alida Maria *1904} g7 Anna Margaretha Sophia *01.03.1885 g8 Maria Adriana *02.03.1887 : x Thomas Slabbert g9 Johanna Catharina Henrietta *Bloemhof 22.04.1891 +Hospitaal, Bloemhof; 67jr 7mde 02.10.1958 × 18.01.1907 Schweizer Reneke met Slabbert,David Hercules *Steytlerville 1882 +Klerksdorp; 74jr 23. 11.1956 : ook Hercules David; pensionaris g10 Jacoba Aletta *ook 1892 06.09.1893 : x Frank Minnaar f3 Maria Adriana *?? 1851 f4 Johannes Antonie *?? 1860
Janet Melville Posbus 15215 Emerald Hill PE 6011 083 642 7744 H/Faks: 041 3792077 Researching: van der Merwe, Melville, Rudman, William Reynolds, Van Lingen and East Cape families
Boodskap 7b. Re: Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, President van die Republiek van Stel Posted by: "Daniel Jacobs" [email protected] Sat Jan 5, 2008 5:53 am (PST)
Beste Lucas
Hierna aangeheg vorige e-posse aan SAGenealogie en Buiteposten wat betrekking het op Stellaland/Van NIekerk ens.
Groete
Daniel Jacobs www.gendata.co.za
----- Original Message ----- *From:* Daniel M. Jacobs
Beste Ben
In Dr. W.J. Leyds se 2 volumes *Het Insluiten van de Boeren-Republieken* is heelwat inligting oor Stellaland en Goosen.
Groete
Daniel Jacobs Webtuiste: safamily.zonke.co.za
Vir Die Boekwinkel gaan na SAgenealogie se databasisse by http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SAGenealogie/
----- Original Message ----- *From:* Ben Cilliers
Aan al die lyslede,
In 'n vertaalde publikasie van Roger Webster, Om Die Kampvuur, lees ek van Sarel Petrus Cilliers en Nicolaas Gey von Pittius, wat deur die skrywer as Vrybuiters beskrywe word. Volgens die publikasie was hulle in die Noord-Weste bedrywig gedurende die jare voordat die Republieke van Stellaland en Gosen tot stand gekom het. Hulle, met hulle ondersteuners, het blykbaar aan die kan van sommige inboorling opperhoofde, teen vergoeding, teen ander inboorlinghoofge in stamgevegte deelgeneem. Roof, buit en by geleentheid selfs moord, was blykbaar deel van hierdie'vrybuiters' se aktiwiteite. Hulle opperhoofde was die TransvaalseBoereregering goedgesind, terwyl hulle opperhoofteenstanders die imperialistiese Britse gesag goedgesind was.
Watter publikasie(s) is beskikbaar wat vir my meer inligting oor die saak kan gee?
Is daar 'n MA of PhD proefskrif aan een van ons universiteite oor die saak beskikbaar? Dalk aan die Univ. van Pretoria.
Wie is 'n hedendaagse kenner oor daardie deel van die geskiedenis?
Is daar iemand wat dalk lus is om vir my in die argiewe oor die saak te gaan rondkrap? Ek is 'n bietjie ver van die Transvaal se argief af (Mosselbaai).
My belanstelling begin eintlik by my pogings om Sarel Petrus Cilliers se tweede vrou, Anna Susanna Venter, te identifiseer. Dit is amper onmoontlik om aan haar Venter- familie vatplek te kry. Interessant genoeg het die genoemde Nicolaas Gey von Pittius by twee geleenthede as doopgetuie opgetree toe Sarel en Anna Susanna kinders laat doop het. Verder kom daar Gey von Pittius name onder hulle nageslag voor maar geen Venter- name nie.
Help-help!
Ben Cilliers Mosselbaai.
----- Original Message ----- *From:* David vd Merwe
Lysvriende
Hier is 'n uittreksel vanaf 'n webtuiste genaamd http://www.worldstatesmen.org/South_Africa.html#Goshen
Goshen
5 Mar 1883 - 23 Mar 1885 Capital: RooigrondPopulation: N/A
24 Oct 1882 Het Land Goosen independent. 7 Aug 1883 Merges with Stellaland to from United States of Stellaland. 23 Mar 1885 Incorporated into Cape Colony (Bechuanaland). Chairman of the Council of Government 24 Oct 1882 - 7 Aug 1883 Nicolaas Claudius Gey van Pittius (b. 1837 - d.1893) Administrator 7 Aug 1883 - 23 Mar 1885 Nicolaas Claudius Gey van Pittius (s.a.)
Stellaland
1882 - 1883 1883 1883 - 1885 Capital: VrijburgPopulation: N/A
26 Jul 1882 Republic of Stellaland independent. 7 Aug 1883 Merges with Goshen forming the United States of Stellaland. 30 Sep 1885 Incorporated into Cape Colony (Bechuanaland). Administrator 26 Jul 1882 - 30 Sep 1885 Gerrit Jacobus van Niekerk (b. 1849 - d. 1896) Groete
David vd Merwe Posbus 249 Montagu Tel/Faks: (023) 614-2761 Sel: 082-844-5053 E.pos: [email protected]
------Original Message------
From: [email protected] Date: 04 Julie 2004 07:07:33 To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Republieke van Stellaland en Goosen
Hi Dennis, Ben en ander
Ek kom onlangs weer af op 'n afdruk wat ek gemaak het in my soeke na my Oupa Grootjie. Dit het my skoon ontgaan dat ek die afdruk gemaak het, vandaar dat ek nie gereageer het nie want ek kon niks konkreets sê nie. Ongelukkig het ek nie 'n behoorlike verwysing aangeteken nie en nou weet ek ook nie meer by wie ek die boek gekry het nie. Groot askies, maar hier is wat ek het:
Dit lyk my Gerrit Jacobus Van Niekerk was die President van die Republiek van Stellaland. Die verhaal gaan baie dieselfde as die van Goosen (waaroor ek niks het nie). In die afdruk wat ek het, word beweer dat David Massouw, die Korana-Kaptein in daardie geweste (Die Vryburg omgewing) het reeds 'n geruime tyd lank in oorlog met sy buurman, Mankurwane die Tlhapin-kaptein, gewees het. David het toe blykbaar 'n klomp blankes onder leiding van Van Niekerk gekry om Mankurwane op te dons, dan sou David hulle met grond beloon Onder leiding van Van Niekerk is dit toe gedoen en die grond ter sprake het toe die Republiek van Stellaland geword. Van Niekerk wou dit nie so hê nie, hy wou dit eerder by die ZAR inlyf maar weens die onderhandelinge met Engeland oor die ZAR se wesgrens is dit nie gedoen nie. Cecil Rhodes het ook 'n hand in die saak gehad om dit nie te laat inlyf nie. Dit is blykbaar eers in 1885 as deel van die Britse gebied geproklameer -- die einde van Die Republiek van Stellaland.
Van Niekerk was blykbaar 'n baie bekwame administrateur en is in 1895 as Kommissaris van Polisie in Pretoria aangestel maar hy is kort daarna oorlede
Die gedeelte waaroor ek berig kom uit "SA Biografiese Woordeboek Deel IV p 742/3. Verder word die volgende verwysings met betrekking tot die stuk aangehaal: Transvaalse Argief: PTA: Boedel no 11918: Arg. van die Republiek Stellaland: -- Imperiale Blouboeke: C 4194: DW Kruger. 'Die Republiek van Stellaland'. Ongepub. M.A. Verh.. P.U.K.. 1932
J Bouwer 'Elke boer is met 'n groot plaas vergoed' Die volksblad. 9.5.1966
My betrokkenheid hierby gaan oor my Oupa Gideon (Gideon Johannes Jacobus van Niekerk 22.08.1876 tot 02.09.1939) se vader van wie ek nie eers sy naam het nie. Al wat ek het is 'n "STORIE" dat Oupa Gideon by die einste David 'n wa en span osse sou geruil het vir 'n bottel brandewyn en 'n bietjie buskruit. Met die wa het Oupa toe op die plaas Makaauwskop aangekom waar hy met een van die Nieuwoudt dogters getroud is en toe ook sommer een sede deel van die plaas bygekry het, -- lekker slim ou voorvader, ek bedoel nou met die trouery :-).
Groetnis ======Whitey van Niekerk, Vereeniging (016) 429-2046 Sel 082 939-8816 [email protected]
----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Jacobs"
> Beste Scott > > Net ingeval jy dit nie reeds weet nie - 'n boek met heelwat inligting oor > o.a. Stellaland is WJ Leyds se Het Insluiten van de Boeren-Republieken, Deel > 1, HAUM, 1914. Daar is o.a. hoofstukke soos De Stichting van Stellaland, > Bower in Stellaland, Mackenzie in Stelland, Rhodes in Stellaland, De > Stellaland-overeenkomst van 8 September 1884 ens. Daar is ook inligting oor > Land Goosen, en die Nieuwe Republiek in die boek. Dit wil voorkom of die > boek van 386 bladsye oor die drie Republike handel. > > Ek het ook eendag in die South African Illustrated News 'n skets teengekom
> van die hofsaak wat op 'n stadium in Stellaland gehou is - na 'n moord of > ander soortgelyke ongeregtigheid? Die bekende Gey van Pitius asook 'n Van > Niekerk kom saam met van die ander hoofkarakters in die hofsaak op die skets > voor. > > Groete > > Daniel Jacobs > Webtuiste: www.gendata.co.za > E-pos: [email protected] > Tel: 0842499579 > Woonplek: Bellville, Wes-Kaap > > Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) > Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) > Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) > Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) > De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) > Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) > Ungerer (Swellendam) > Smith (Wellington) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Kotze"
----- Original Message ----- *From:* Gey van Pittius NC
Beste Andre !
Wat `n wonderlike fonds ! Ek was nie bewus van die webwerf met die waardevolle fotos en tekeninge nie ! Baie dankie ! Alhoewel ek al drie verskillende fotos van NC Gey van Pittius het, is hierdie skets/waterverf tekening van hom `n splinternuwe een wat ek nie gehad het nie, en die ander fotos en tekeninge op die webwerf is net so waardevol om die tydperk te illustreer. Baie baie dankie !
Groete Nico
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr NC Gey van Pittius (PhD) US/MRC Centre for Molecular and Cellular Biology Faculty of Health Sciences - Stellenbosch University P.O.Box 19063 TYGERBERG 7505, South Africa ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Message: 15 Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 19:09:11 -0000 From: "sastamouers"
Terwyl julle so praat oor Stellaland en Goosen en die Van Niekerks. Weet julle dalk wie die Kaptein van Niekerk was wat deel uitgemaak het van die Afrikander Korps wat in Rhodesia geveg het in 1895 teen die Matabele Opstand? Ek wonder of hy familie was van die van Niekerks van Stellaland? My belang is omdat Willem Hermanus van Rensburg die kommandant was van die Afrikander Korps.
Vir julle wat belangstel is daar toegang tot baie waardevolle fotos en tekeninge by http://khozi2.nu.ac.za/digilib/d15/d15.xml
Let op veral vir die wat belangstel in die dorslandtrekkers, die handelaars in Bechuanaland. Stellaland, Goosen. Daar is selfs tekeninge van mense soos van Niekerk, Gey von Pittius, Schoeman, Cilliers. Fotos van Swart stam leiers ens
Ek hoop 'n paar van julle gaan 'n bietjie opgewonde raak en dat dit julle sal help om julle genealogie lekker te kan illustreer
Andre v R
----- Original Message ----- *From:* Daniel M. Jacobs
Beste Nico
Ek sal nog die presiese verwysing vir jou stuur. Die volgende is 'n uittreksel uit my kursusnotas:
"M.J. Evans: *Index to Pictures of South African interest in the Graphic 1875-1895*, Johannesburg, 1966. Die *Graphic* is 'n koerant wat weekliks in London, Engeland verskyn het. Die beeldmateriaal het betrekking op Suid-Afrika, Namibië, Zimbabwe, Mosambiek, Madagaskar, Mauritius, St. Helena en Tristan da Cunha. Om vir u 'n aanduiding te gee watter tipe beeldmateriaal wat op Suid-Afrika betrekking het in die koerant verskyn het, haal ek 'n aantal van die inskrywings hier aan saam met die jaartal waarin die item in die koerant verskyn het: G Ferreira - portrait - 1890; Store in Lydenburg - 1876; Village of Lydenburg - 1876; Fripp, C.E.: O' Neill's farm during the meeting of Gen. Sir Evelyn Wood and the Boer Leaders, March 21: Dirk Uys, Gen. Joubert, Christian Joubert, Pretorius - 1881; Fripp, C.E. - Sketches from South Africa - Transvaal Boers at family worship - 1880; Burgersdorp - Don, C.D.: Language demonstration at Burgersdorp, Cape Colony. Mr. Hofmeyer addressing the meeting in the market place - 1893; Stephanus Jacobus du Toit b. 1847 - portrait - 1883; Graaff-Reinet - Gathering oranges at Welwood in the district of Graaff-Reinet, Cape Colony, 1892; *Van Niekerk, Gerrit Jacobus - Bethell, Alfred with Sir Charles Warren at Vryburg - the trial of … Van Niekerk, ex-administrator of Stellaland, for the murder of … James Honey, February, 1882 - 1883*."
Die laaste verwysing het betrekking op dieselfde sketse wat naas in die *Graphic ook in die South Afrcan Illustrated News verskyn het. Jou voorouer se skets was in laasgenoemde publikasie op dieselfde bladsy as die foto wat op Van Niekerk se hofsaak betrekking gehad het. **Ek sal nog vir jou die datum van die uitgawe laat kry - kan nie nou my hande daarop lê nie. Dit was in die Nasionale Biblioteek, Kaapstad. Daar is ander fassinerenede foto's ook in ... * ** ** Groete
Daniel Jacobs Webtuiste: http://safamily.zonke.co.za
On Jan 3, 2008 10:17 PM, Lucas Rinken
> Liewe vriende. > Dennis was beslis reg toe hy aan my geskryf het en gesê het: > > "Jy ontneem jouself ook van die geleentheid om hulp te vra en > te kry van die vele ander deelnemers." > > In die afgelope jaar was daar dikwels geleenthede waar ek > bittergraag hulp so wou vra - maar nouja, ek moes maar myself > bedwing. > > Hier is nou weer so 'n geval. Soos julle almal seker weet stel ek > baie belang in die de WET familie. > > Gertruida Jacoba Sophia de WET a1b1c1d1e8f3g1h10 * 28.1.1877 trou met > Alwyn Petrus SMIT b6c7d2e1f5g1h2 * 27.8.1876 en hulle het 'n seun > Alwyn Petrus SMIT * 18.10.1907 + 8.1.1965. Sy notas lees: He came from > the farm Uitsig, Victoria West, and later bought the farm Seeis in the > Windhoek district S.W.A. later becoming Namibia. > > Hy trou 26.7.1943 met Marguerite Irene de JAGER * 6.7.1917 dv. Matthys > Johan de Jager * Beaufort-Wes 23.1.1872 en Martha Maria van NIEKERK, > * 9.4.1873 + 17.9.1953 en haar vader was: > > Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK wie se notas (hoofsaaklik uit Eric > Rosenthal se Encyclopaedia of Southern Africa) lees: > > "He was President of the Stellaland Republic > > Boer freebooter, born about 1840 near Fauresmith, O.F.S. He settled > near the present town of Christiana in the Transvaal, on the farm > Kromellenboog, now the centre of a famous irrigation scheme. During > the Inter-tribal wars on the Western Transvaal frontier, between > Mankoroane and Massouw, he brought a party of volunteers to support > the latter. In gratitude Massouw gave him a piece of land, on which > he set up the miniture republic of Stellaland (q.v.) in 1883. He later > became Chief of Police in Pretoria and died in 1896." > > Maar dink julle ek kon hom in SAG kry? Miskien is ek blind ook nog > maar indien iemand meer van hom weet, ontvang ek so graag die > besonderhede. > > Te meer nog, want soos die toeval dit bewerkstellig het, gaan ek net > nadat ek hierdie besonderhede ingevoer het, oor daarnatoe om nuwe > registrasies op die GGSA webwerf goed te keur en wat is my verbasing groot > toe ek daar 'n van Niekerk vind wat later my e-pos beantwoord en sê: > > "Dankie vir die spoedige diens! > Ek is oppad na die buiteland tot middel Februarie en sal eers weer terug > wees om en by die 17de Februarie. > > Gerrit van NIekerk was my oupa grootjie en ek het nogal heelwat info deur > die jare bymekaar gemaak oor hom. Sodra ek terug is in die land sal ek > kontak maak en dan info uitruil en kyk waar ek van hulp kan wees." > > Nou wil ek bittergraag darem ook iets vir hom kan gee en vra graag > enige hulp wat die van Niekerk kenners dalk kan bied. > > Dankie byvoorbaat en vriendelike groete, > > Lucas
Boodskap 7c. Re: Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, President van die Republiek van Stel Posted by: "Lucas Rinken" [email protected] rinkenlg Sat Jan 5, 2008 8:56 am (PST)
Dag vriende,
Sjoe! Die lede van hierdie poslys is besonders!
Kyk net hoeveel antwoorde het ons ontvang op my skrywe! En wat 'n magdom van inligting wat verwerk moet word! Ek gaan LANK besig gehou word. Maar hopelik sal dit alles, binnekort, op eSAGI beskikbaar wees.
My hartelike dank aan (in volgorde van die jongste bydrae eerste nie soseer in belangrikheid daarvan nie):
Francois Greeff Daniel Jacobs Janet Melville Johan Greeff Cornel Viljoen Hetta Scholtz Andrew Kok Ben Cilliers Dennis Pretorius Marie van der Merwe
Hoop nie ek het iemand uitgelaat nie - indien wel, verskoon asseblief 'n vergeetagtige ou man!
Dis werklik 'n voorreg om weer saam met julle te kan werk. Dankie weereens Dennis!
Dankie ook aan almal wat my terug op die lys verwelkom het en aan wie ek reeds, van lys af, geskryf het.
En ek is lank nog nie klaar uitgevra nie. Meer versoeke volg.
Vriendelike groete,
Lucas
Boodskap 8. Re: [SA-Gen] Namibië - Boedels Posted by: "Isebelle Krauss" [email protected] iekrauss Sat Jan 5, 2008 5:26 am (PST)
Al die boedels is tot en met 1972 verfilm en is by die LDS fasilitieite beskikbaar
Isebelle E Krauss *Lloyd.
Boodskap 9a. KLEYNHANS/DE BRUIN/DELPORTSHOOP Posted by: "Daniel Jacobs" [email protected] Sat Jan 5, 2008 5:39 am (PST)
Beste Vriende
As iemand dalk kan help - ek soek na inligting oor Karel Rudolf KLEYNHANS gebore 19.10.1837, Swellendam "Kaapsch Kolonie" X Hester Margaretha Jacoba DE BRUIN. Ek sien die eerste Carel Rudolph in SAG is b10c2 (gebore 1811) en dat die name Hester Margaretha Jacoba onder die de Bruins voorkom (DU BRUYN-register o.a. bl. 187 - dames gebore in 1889 en 1847 onderskeidelik), maar ek kan egter nie enige koppelings gemaak kry nie.
Die volgende NAAIRS-verwysing (wat ek self sal opvolg) het waarskynlik betrekking:
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*DEPOT* KAB *SOURCE* MOK *TYPE* LEER *VOLUME_NO* 1/2/576 *SYSTEM* 04 *REFERENCE* 1991 *PART* 1 *DESCRIPTION* *KLEINHANS, CAREL* RUDOLF. DECEASED ESTATE PAPERS. *STARTING* 18840000 *ENDING* 18840000
Daar is nl. 'n brief, gedateer 26.10.8? te Delportshoop, gerig aan H Kleinhantz, 'n broer van Carel, wat verwys na Carel, sy eggenote en jongste kind se afsterwe. Ek weet dat die jongste kind in 1881 gebore is. Die brief is geskryf deur die Veldkornet van "Ward No. 1 Barkly West"
Die oudste van die 9 kinders is gebore in 1867 en in die brief staan "Familie kant een plaan maak om die kinders te komen haalen".
Groete
Daniel Jacobs www.gendata.co.za
Boodskap 9b. Re: KLEYNHANS/DE BRUIN/DELPORTSHOOP Posted by: "Karin Serfontein" [email protected] Sat Jan 5, 2008 11:12 am (PST)
Hello Daniel,
Ek het gedink om die volgende vir jou te stuur, ek sal graag ook meer wil weet oor die KLEYNHANS familie.
Jacobus Hendrick SERFONTEIN (C3) * 21 Junie 1815 X met Aletta Johanna KLEYNHANS in Swellendam. Jacobus sterf op die 28ste Junie 1901. Aletta KLEYNHANS * 4 Augustus 1818 + op die 16de Julie 1902.
Hulle seun CAREL RUDOLF SERFONTEIN (d5) * 14 Desember 1845 X op Edenville met Elizabeth Johanna Christina PRINSOO. Carel + op die 8ste Junie 1918. Elizabeth + die 7de Junie 1917.
Hulle seun - my skoonpa - CAREL RUDOLF SERFONTEIN (f5) * 8 Julie 1912 + op die 25ste Oktober 1995.
Miskien maak iets iewers sin, ek hoor graag van jou.
Geniet 'n lekker aand/dag,
Groete,
Karin.
Boodskap 10a. Terug!!! Posted by: "Ann Tiran" [email protected] anntiran Sat Jan 5, 2008 8:13 am (PST)
Goeienaand almal
Net om te sê ek is terug op die lys na 3 weke vakansie in Herold’s’ Baai [waar dit heelwat van die tyd gereën het, maar ek nietemin my tyd saam met my familie geniet het] Gewoonlik teken ek uit maar het hierdie keer besluit om dit nie te doen nie, en nou sit ek heerlik vandag oor die 600 eposse deurlees…..SAGen was baie beslis baie aktief in Desember en ek het dit so geniet om in te haal.
Aan Dennis en die bestuurspan: Baie geluk met die 4bestaansjare waarin SAGen net gegroei het. Mag 2008 net vir almal ‘n baie mooi en voorspoedige jaar wees.
Groete
Annatjie
Boodskap 11a. Re: FOTO BRIXTON BEGRAFPLAAS Posted by: "Ann Tiran" [email protected] anntiran Sat Jan 5, 2008 8:13 am (PST)
Oh Janet
You made my day with this remark!
Bless you
Boodskap 12a. Re: TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg Posted by: "Willeen Olivier" [email protected] willempie5 Sat Jan 5, 2008 9:28 am (PST)
Andre,
Die volgende aanhalings op p 307-310, waar hy van Rudolph se verwonding praat, sal dalk lig op die saak werp:
"Met uitsondering van myself het die komandante van die TVK dit baie ongelukkig getref. Tydens my afwesingheid na die Vrystaat het die dapper waarnemende komandant Piet vd Merwe gesneuwel. My opvolger, regter Hugo, is ernstig gewond en later oorlede. En binne veertien dae nadat hy Hugo opgevolg het, is komandant Rudolph swaar gewond en moes hy hom aan die vyand oorgee. Sy opvolger, Komdt. Carel van Heerden, 'n dapper krygsman, het in Aberdeen gesneuwel."
"Daarom laat ek die leiding aan komdt. Rudolph oor en swenk eenkant-toe om al die los burgers wat met die laer uitgetrek het bymekaar te maak..." "Die verwonding van Rudolph het my persoonlik baie ter harte gegaan, daar ek hom as mens en ook as krygsman baie hoog geskat het. Na die geveg het ek veldk. Carel van Heerden in sy plek tot komandant bevorder."
Hy praat ook van 'n hele klomp ander komandante, maar as leiers van ander komando's - hy praat op een plek van die komdt van die TVK en die komandante van die ander komando's. Ek het nog nie afgekom op iets waar hy die opbreek van die TVK in vyf komando's beskryf nie, maar onthou vaagweg so iets, so dis seker daar iewers. Sal die boek seker weer van voor af moet deurlees ;-)).
In die inleiding sê die skrywer die volgende: "Hy [Malan] is agtereenvolgens benoem tot luitenant in die beroemde korps van Danie Theron, later algemeen bekend as die TVK's later tot komandant, daarna tot generaal en uiteindelik tot Assistent-Komandant- Generaal. Voordat hierdie laaste benoeming egter bekragtig kon word, is die stryd beëindig."
Ek vermoed die bevordering tot generaal het met sy Vrystaat-besoek gebeur, want op 'n kol met die terugreis (p271-272) praat hy van sy 'plaasvervanger' [as komdt.?], veldk. Piet vd Merwe.
Op 27 Mei, na die aanval op Aberdeen, wat hy [Malan] ook beskryf, is hy ernstig gewond in 'n aanval op die Engelse. 'n paar dae later volg Komdt Fouché hom op as waarnemende generaal, 'n paar dae later bevorder hy veldk. van Rensburg tot komdt van die TVK. Aangesien die vrede op 31 Mei gesluit is, kon hy nie vir lank gedien het nie. Ek wonder tewens of hy nog voor die 31ste aangestel is - want die TVK se laaste geveg was blykbaar na die vredesluiting, maar voor hulle daarvan te hore gekom het.
Hoop dit help.
WIlleen Willeen Olivier Rooihuiskraal Kotzé, van Wyk, Olivier, Bosman, en al hulle voorgeslagte ...
Boodskap 12b. Re: TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg Posted by: "sastamouers" [email protected] sastamouers Sat Jan 5, 2008 1:16 pm (PST)
Baie dankie Willeen,
Dit klink asof Malan op daardie stadium aangestel was as Generaal, met ander woorde hy was verantwoordelik vir meer as net die TVK.
Wat was die prosedure met die bevordering / aanstelling tot Commandant?
Jy maak melding van die datum 27 Mei, ek is nie seker wat to gebeur het nie?
Weet ons wanneer en waar die laaste geveg / gevegte van die TVK was - na die sluiting van vrede?
In my notas het ek die volgende: "At the end of the war, Van Rensburg was locked up in prison at Cradock and faced the charges of nine cases of murder. Van Rensburg appealed to Smuts as advocate to assist him in his legal case, Smuts replied, I am sorry peace has been signed and all the Rebel- commandants can be prosecuted. Van Rensburg then approached General Hertzog, who immediately took up his case and on paying 4,000 pounds bond he was released from prison. It was not long before the Cape government granted pardon to all the rebels. Hertzog refused to accept any fees from Van Rensburg and responded, "Wat die man vir ons volk gedaan het, kan ons nooit terugbetaal nie."
Die houding van Smuts teenoor Van Rensburg, kan dalk gedeeltelik toegeskryf word tot wat jy van melding maak - dat die TVK vir 'n ruk na die vredesluiting nog aangehou veg het. Let ook op dat Smuts praat van "Rebel-Commandants" ivm met Van Rensburg.
Ek het ook voorheen korrespondensie gehad met David en Taffy Shearing hulle het vir my die volgende inligting gegee: Hendrik Johannes Janse VAN RENSBURG from Langhoek (Kleinfontein), Cradock. Veld Cornet and later Commandant. Malan's and Fouche's commandos. Commandant in 1902. Boer Army List states: `Now in command of Malan's commando, estimated 52 strong. 20-22 years old. 5ft 10ins; round shouldered; thick set; brown hair and eyes; no beard; very small moustache. Was appointed Veld Cornet in place of Du Plessis. Gave orders to shoot unarmed native at Kliprug, Calvinia on 5-10-1901. Bullet scar on side of nose and out near ear (Richmond, 25-6-1901).' Escaped from Driefontein, Laingsburg on 10-9-1901, and led the remnant of the commando to the north-west Cape. Laid down arms and sentenced under Proclamation 100/1902 at Cradock on 13-6-1902.
Van Rensburg was dus aan beheer van "Malan se Commando", die feite vir my wil aandui dat hy die laaste TVK leier was.
Andre v R Boodskap 13a. CALITZDORP LIDMAATREGISTER 1873 - 1914 Posted by: "alta le roux" [email protected] Sat Jan 5, 2008 11:14 am (PST)
Vriende
Aangesien die Excel-formaat waarin ek die inskrywings uit bogenoemde register tik, nie goed vertoon op SAGen nie, het Hendrik Louw aangebied om dit te omskep in 'n gedcom wat op die SAGen-webwerf beskikbaar sal wees. Dit is ook in Excel-formaat op Francois Greeff se webwerf beskikbaar.
Aan almal wat belanggestel het om die inligting te ontvang, hieronder volg 'n lys van die vanne wat voorkom in die eerste deel van die register. Ek kan die Excel-lêer direk aanstuur as daar iemand is wat in een van die vanne belangstel. Die aantal inskrywings per van verskyn in hakies na die van.
Groete Alta le Roux [email protected] Posbus 1138, OUDTSHOORN, 6620 Tel. 083 996 0676 / 044 272 2271 (h) / 044 272 3676 (w)
Ackert (1) Alberts (46) Antwerpen, van (27) Appel (2) Bank, van der (4) Barker (1) Barnard (12) Barry (10) Bartman (1) Bastiaanse (1) Beer, de (1) Bekker (47) Benn (1) Bennett (3) Berg, v. d. (33 beide van der en van den Berg. Dit lyk of daar nie sekerheid was oor die skryfwyse nie) Bester (3) Blanché, ter (20) Blignault (28) Bonthuysen (1) Bosch (1) Boshof(f) (27) Botes (3) Botha (46) Braaf (1) Bredell (1) Breitenbach/ Breytenbach (13) Brewis (14) Brink (10) Britz (15) Bronn (1) Bruwer (1) Butler (1) Cahill (5) Calitz (123) Chapman (1) Choeby (Goby) (1) Claasen / Claassen (121) Cloete (50) Coetzee (5) Coleman (1) Conradie (8) Cordier (5) Cornelissen (1) Crafford (3) Cronjé (6)
Boodskap 13b. Re: CALITZDORP LIDMAATREGISTER 1873 - 1914 Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Sat Jan 5, 2008 11:51 am (PST)
Die inligting kan gratis hier afgelaai word: http://www.onsfamilie.info/calitzdorpngklede.php
Ek wag in spanning om deel twee te ontvang. Francois Greeff Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3045
Datum: Sat Jan 5, 2008
Daar is 8 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Kemp x Heymans From: christo.heymans
2a. Botha ??? From: christo.heymans
2b. Re: Botha ??? From: MeerkatB
3. Van Der Merwe ?? From: christo.heymans
4. Janse van Rensburg ?? From: christo.heymans
5a. Re: Geboortes, huwelikke en sterftes in koerante From: Dik Groenhuizen
6. SWELLENDAMDOPE From: Annelie Els
7a. GOOSEN From: Faan Naude, Rietfontein, PRETORIA Boodskap 1a. Kemp x Heymans Posted by: "christo.heymans" [email protected] christo.heymans Sat Jan 5, 2008 1:21 pm (PST)
Beste Lyslede,
Ek vra weer asb. vir enige persoon wat my kan help met: Elsje Petronella Kemp, nee Heymans *19/08/1920 +27/07/1956. Sy is langs die volgende grafte begrawe: Jacobus Johannes Kemp *29/04/1891 +24/11/1969 en Christina Maria Kemp nee Schutte *18/02/1892 +02/07/1956, almal begrawe te Tweelingbegraafplaas, Vrystaat.
Sal enige inligting waardeer. Baie dankie. Christo 0824691557
Boodskap 2a. Botha ??? Posted by: "christo.heymans" [email protected] christo.heymans Sat Jan 5, 2008 1:27 pm (PST)
Beste Lyslede,
Kan iemand my asb. help met Phillip Rudolph Botha *25/09/1820 +04/09/1913 begrawe op die plaas Driekuil, distr Ladybrand, OVS.
Baie dankie. Christo 0824691557
Boodskap 2b. Re: Botha ??? Posted by: "MeerkatB" [email protected] meerkat2s Sat Jan 5, 2008 3:18 pm (PST)
Hallo uit Ontario, Kanada, Christo
Joe Botha se webwerf is wonderlik vir BOTHA inligting (my skoonma is 'n BOTHA). Sien hier, onder 1815, en dan verder van daar af: http://home.mweb.co.za/el/elijo/eng/history.html
http://home.mweb.co.za/el/elijo/bothhtml/idxb.html
'n Vinnige Google vir die name gee onder meer die volgende webwerwe waar die naam voorkom:
http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide-2570704-durban_tours-i
http://myweb.absa.co.za/adam.boshoff/187.htm
Vir Philip met een L en dieselfde name, kry ek: http://www.greyling.za.org/phpgedview/individual.php?pid=I63&ged=jan_greyling_200 7_03_03.ged
en
http://www.fjb.co.za/stambome/NEIL%20SLATER/default.htm?page=Botha- PhilipRudolph-I440.htm
Groete, Marlene
Boodskap 3. Van Der Merwe ?? Posted by: "christo.heymans" [email protected] christo.heymans Sat Jan 5, 2008 1:31 pm (PST)
Beste Lyslede,
Is daar iemand wat kan help met Jacoba Magrietha Britz nee van der Merwe *15/12/1855 +11/09/1917, begrawe op die plaas Driekuil, distr Ladybrand.
Baie dankie. Christo 0824691557
Boodskap 4. Janse van Rensburg ?? Posted by: "christo.heymans" [email protected] christo.heymans Sat Jan 5, 2008 1:35 pm (PST)
Beste Lyslede,
Is daar iemand wat kan help met Anna Fredrieca Janse van Rensburg *16/08/1909 +14/08/1910, begrawe op die plaas Driekuil, distr Ladybrand, OVS.
BVD Christo 0824691557
Boodskap 5a. Re: Geboortes, huwelikke en sterftes in koerante Posted by: "Dik Groenhuizen" [email protected] dikgroenhuizen Sat Jan 5, 2008 4:13 pm (PST)
Sorry,ik bedoelde deze site: http://groups.msn.com/Newspaper-Family-Reports-- Info/homepage.msnw
Groeten Dik / Nederland
Boodskap 6. SWELLENDAM DOPE Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Sat Jan 5, 2008 7:05 pm (PST) Subject: SWELLENDAM DOPE
Hallo Mede-geners,
Die volgende klomp name wat in die bladsye SWELLENDAM doopboek voorkom wat ons afgeneem het.
Groetnis Annelie
VOLSCHENK Magdalena Maria Petronella 23 ? Nov 1829 5 Dec 1830
FATHER :- Carel Gabriel Volschenk MOTHER :- Johanna Dorothea GROBLER Witness Johannes GROBLER & Magdalena Martha HARTOG Nicolaas JANSE VAN RENSBURG Susanna Dirkie GROBLER Magdalena Petronella GROBLER Jacoba SWART VOLSCHENK Jan Ernst 21 Nov 1830 5 Dec 1830 FATHER :- Cornelis Gabriel Volschenk MOTHER :- Margaretha Maria KLEYNS Witness Louis Willem BOSHOFF & Margaretha Maria NORTJE Jan Ernst VOLSCHENK & Susanna Catharina SIEGLER (SIEGLAAR) Gideon Ferdinand VOLSCHENK Martha Magdalena KLEYNS VOLSCHENK Carolina Jacoba Alida 15 Nov 1829 4 Nov 1830 FATHER :- Christoffel Hendrik Volschenk MOTHER :- Helena Barendina JANEKE Witness Jacob Johannes STAGMAN Carolina Wilhelmina SANDT Carolina Alida VOS Rosina Johanna Christina Elisabeth FABRITIUS VOLSCHENK Johannes Isaak 6 Jul 1830 30 Nov 1830 FATHER :- Jan Ernst Volschenk MOTHER :- Hermina CRONJE Witness Johannes Isaak CRONJE Susanna Jacoba VAN WYK Isaak Johannes VAN DER VYVER Maria Johanna VOLSCHENK Carel Pieter DE JAGER Susanna Elisabeth VAN DER VYVER VILJOEN Willem Schalk 9 Aug 1830 26 Dec 1830 FATHER :- Hendrik Christoffel Viljoen MOTHER :- Elisabeth Johanna DU TOIT Witness Willem Johannes DU TOIT Hermina VILJOEN Schalk Willem DU TOIT Maria Elisabeth DU TOIT Willem Schalk VILJOEN VYVER Petrus Gerhardus, van den 19 Oct 1830 26 Dec 1830 FATHER :- Isaak van den Vyver MOTHER :- Johanna Geertruida SAAIMAN Witness Bernardus Lambertus VAN DEN VYVER Catharina DE JAGER George Fredrik NEFDT Anna Margaretha VAN DEN VYVER Lodewikus Theodorus DE JAGER Johanna Geertruida VAN DEN VYVER Piet NEL - Joh Zoon & Carolina LA GRANGE VYVER Cornelis Petrus, van den 20 Jan 1830 23 Jan 1831 FATHER :- Jan Abraham VAN DEN VYVER MOTHER :- Johanna Louisa CRONJE Witness Cornelis CRONJE & Susanna Elisabeth STEYL Andries Petrus VAN WYK & Maria Magdalena DE JAGER VRY (VREY) Gerrit Petrus Adriaan 26 Nov 1830 29 Jul 1831 (Cornelis) FATHER :- Coenraad ?? Vry (VREY) MOTHER :- Dina Carolina Jacoba Catharina OLIVIER
Witness Barend Jacobus VREY Maria Magdalena BREITENBACH ? Jacobus DU PREEZ Maggel Susanna Petronella OLIVIER VILLIERS Jacobus Johannes, de 15 Dec 1831 4 Mar 1832 FATHER :- David Jacobus de Villiers MOTHER :- Johanna Jacoba UYS Witness Francois Jacobus DE VILLIERS Alida Jacoba ODENDAAL Willem Adriaan ODENDAAL Alida Maria DE VILLIERS Jacobus Nicolaas LOTS Magdalena Cornelia DE VILLIERS VOSLOO Martha Magdalena 31 Jan 1833 15 Apr 1832 FATHER :- Johannes Nicolaas Vosloo MOTHER :- Martha Magdalena Margaretha DU PLOOY Witness Martha VOSLOO - wed Piet DU PLOOY Catharina VAN DEN BANK - wed Johannes VOSLOO Arnoldus VOSLOO - Johannes zoon Anna Catharina DU PLOOY VOLSCHENK Theunis Johannis 26 Nov 1831 23 Apr 1832 FATHER :- Cornelis Gabriel Volschenk MOTHER :- Margaretha Maria KLEYNS Witness Willem Hendrik KLEYNS Anna Catharina Hester VERWEY Hendrik Willem HURTER Maria Elisabeth KLEYNS VELDSMAN Matthys Johannes Christoffel 18 Nov 1831 29 Apr 1832
FATHER :- Matthys Christoffel Veldsman MOTHER :- Christina Johanna JORDAAN Witness Johannes Godlieb VELDSMAN & Susanna Catharina JORDAAN Matthys Christoffel DE KOKER & Elsie Sophia JORDAAN Johannes Christiaan ELS & Hester Anna VELDSMAN VELDSMAN Elsie Sophia 2 Jan 1832 29 Apr 1832 FATHER :- Johannes Godlieb Veldsman MOTHER :- Susanna Catharina JORDAAN Witness Matthys Christoffel DE KOKER & Elsie Sophia JORDAAN Johannes Christiaan ELS & Hester Anna VELDSMAN VYVER Carolina Christina, van der 20 Feb 1832 1 Jul 1832 FATHER :- Isaak van den Vyver MOTHER :- Geertruida Johanna SAAYMAN Witness Lodewikus Theodorus DE JAGER Geertruida Johanna VAN DER VYVER Christiaan Jacobus SCHALKWYK Barendina Wilhelmina SCALKWYK Carel Pieter CRONJE Carolina Maria LE GRANGE Bernardus Christaan ZAAYMAN Helena Catharina SCHALKWYK VRY (VREY) Willem Johannes Petrus 13 Mar 1831 29 Jul 1832 FATHER :- Hendrik VRY (VREY) MOTHER :- Maria Catharina NEL Witness Adam Johannes VRY (VREY) Elsje Johanna FOURIE Pieter Willem NEL Anna Magdalena NEL VOLSCHENK Susanna Catharina 15 Nov 1831 9 Aug 1832 FATHER:- Carel Gabriel Volschenk MOTHER:- Dorothea Johanna GROBLER Witness Hendrik Louis VOLSCHENK Abigail Susanna DU PLESSIS Evert Philippus VOLSCHENK Susanna Catharina JANEKE VIVIERS Hester Catharina 3 Jul 1832 23 Aug 1832 FATHER :- Hendrik Viviers MOTHER :- Hester Catharina BOTHA Witness Jacob Johannes ?? Anna JANSE VAN RENSBURG Nicolaas JANSE VAN RENSBURG Maria Magdalena MULLER VOSLOO Arnoldus Francois 30 May 1832 26 Aug 1832 FATHER :- Johannes Nicolaas Gerhardus Andreas Vosloo
MOTHER :- Martha Magdalena HORN Witness Anna Maria SPIES - wed van Arnoldus VOSLOO Arnoldus Francois VOSLOO Maria Petronella JONKER Anna Elizabeth Johanna HORN Jan Christiaan HORN VOSLOO Maria Petronella Magdalena Wilhelmina 28 Jun 1832 26 Aug 1832
FATHER:- Arnoldus Francois MOTHER :- Maria Petronella JONKER Witness Arnoldus Francois VOSLOO - Arn Zoon Johannes Willem HORN Martha Magdalena Wilhelmina VOSLOO VRY (VREY) Sophia Catharina 20 Jun 1832 29 Aug 1832 FATHER :- Cornelis VRY (VREY) MOTHER :-Dina Carolina Jacoba Catharina OLIVIER
Witness Jan Tielman OLIVIER Maria Magdalena VAN DER MERWE Hendrik VRY (VREY) & Maria Catharina NEL VILJOEN Jacobus Johannes 20 Apr 1832 9 Sep 1832 FATHER:- Hendrik Christoffel Viljoen MOTHER:- Elisabeth Jacoba DU TOIT Witness Jacobus DU TOIT Adriaan MEYBURG Jacobus DE WIT Martha THERON VYVER Maria Elisabet, VAN DER 14 Jun 1832 21 Oct 1832 FATHER:- Willem Jacobus van der Vyver MOTHER:- Johanna Susanna BRUWER Witness Fredrik Johannes VAN DER VYVER Maria Sibella VAN DER MERWE Jacobus Stephanus BRUWER Snr Sara Susanna JOUBERT Hester Christina BRUWER VOLSCHENK Andries Pieter 29 Jul 1832 19 Nov 1832 FATHER:- Jan Ernst Volschenk MOTHER:- Hendrina Abigail CRONJE Witness Andries CRONJE & Anna Elisabeth VAN COLLER Anna Carolina VOLSCHENK Dina Petronella BRITS VICTOR Susanna Magdalena 7 Oct 1832 30 Dec 1832 FATHER:- Theunis Gertse Victor MOTHER:- Maria Johanna Victor Witness Gert Diederik CONRADIE Magdalena Johanna LE ROE (ROUX) David Johannes VICTOR Susanna Magdalena VICTOR Hermanus Benjamin LE ROE (ROUX) Anna Maria CONRADIE VOLSCHENK Cornelis Gabriel 15 Nov 1832 27 Jan 1833 FATHER:- Christoffel Hendrik Volschenk MOTHER:- Helena Barendina JANEKE Witness Cornelis Gabriel VOLSCHENK Margaretha Catharina KLEYN Cornelis Johannes VOLSCHENK Johanna Maria Sophia VOLSCHENK VYVER Martha Gesina, VAN DER 12 Dec 1832 27 Jan 1833 FATHER:- Jan Abraham van der Vyver MOTHER:- Johanna Louisa CRONJE Witness Willem Abraham JANSE VAN RENSBURG Susanna Elisabeth MULLER Isaak Johannes VAN DER VYVER Gesie Aletta VAN DER VYVER VILLIERS David Jacobus Johannes, DE 13 Apr 1833 1 Sep 1833
FATHER:- Francois Jacobus de Villiers MOTHER:- Alida Maria ODENDAL (ODENDAAL) Witness David Jacobus DE VILLIER Snr. Johanna Jacoba UYS David Jacobus DE VILLIER Jnr. Isabella Hermina DE JAGER Adriaan Isaac ODENDAL (ODENDAAL) Johanna Wilhelmina BADENHORST Jacobus Johannes ODENDAL (ODENDAAL) Cornelia Margaritha GILDENHUYS WYK Sara Johanna, VAN 1 Dec 1825 23 Apr 1826 FATHER:- Roelof Daniel van Wyk MOTHER:- Johanna Catharina DE JAGER Witness Lodewyk Petrus SPIES Sara Johanna CRONJE Elizabeth Catharina VAN WYK WIT Christoffel Fredrick, DE 13 Jun 1825 7 may 1826 FATHER:-Johan Antoiny de Wit MOTHER:- Martha Maria Jacoba CONRADIE Witness Christoffel Fredrick DE WIT Johannes Stephanus CONRADIE WILLEMSE Hendrik Jacobus Johannes 23 Oct 1824 14 May 1826
FATHER:- Michiel Christoffel Willemse MOTHER:- Maria Francina Elisabeth TESSENAAR Witness Hermanus Edward SCHOLTZ Geertruida Abigail TESSENAAR Johannes Gideon TESSENAAR Isabella MEYER WEILBACH Danie Johanna 13 Mar 1826 15 May 1826 FATHER:- Johan Daniel Weilbach MOTHER:- Petronella JANSE VAN RENSBURG Witness Gerhardus Jacobus JANSE VAN RENSBURG Hester Frederica TERBLANS Marthinus Esaias JANSE VAN RENSBURG Petronella WEILBACH
Boodskap 7a. GOOSEN Posted by: "Faan Naude, Rietfontein, PRETORIA" [email protected] Sat Jan 5, 2008 9:08 pm (PST)
Vriende
Is daar iemand onder ons wat die familie GOOSEN navors?
Ek het gister besoek gehad van mnr. Giep (Gideon David) GOOSEN, 'n kleinseun van Jurgens Johannes GOOSEN en Anna Magrietha NEL. Indien moontlik, wil sy dogter die lyn verder terug tot by die gepubliseerde inligting bekom asseblief.
Help tog asseblief.
Baie dankie by voorbaat namens hulle.
Groete
Faan Naudé NAUDÉ-navorser Rietfontein, PRETORIA Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3046
Datum: Sun Jan 6, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: Daniel Abraham CELLIERS x Jacoba Johanna PRETORIUS From: Mariana Olivier
2. FW: [SA-Gen] Steeds Bennie Liebenberg. From: Mariana Olivier
3a. Gary Player se ma - van NIEKERK From: Lucas Rinken
3b. Re: Gary Player se ma - van NIEKERK From: Isebelle Krauss
3c. Re: Gary Player se ma - van NIEKERK From: Lucas Rinken
3d. Re: Gary Player se ma - van NIEKERK From: Isebelle Krauss
3e. Re: Gary Player se ma - van NIEKERK From: Ronel Olivier
3f. Re: Gary Player se ma - van NIEKERK From: Janet Melville
4a. Re: Botha ??? From: [email protected]
5. Greeff en Lichtenburg en Twycross From: [email protected]
6a. Geboortes, huwelikke en sterftes in koerante From: Elmien Wood
7. Magritha Magdalena MARAIS From: dickydube
8. Susanna Magdalena VAN WYK From: dickydube
9. Lotter, van den Berg From: Pieter du Venage
10. Fw: Nic van Helsdingen From: Dennis Laptop
11a. Vir Berna- Steeds Adriana (oba Ariana) From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
12a. Re: BOEK OPSOEK asseblief From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
13a. Privaat Lucas Rinken From: Ronel Olivier
13b. Re: Privaat Lucas Rinken From: [email protected]
14a. KAB Opsoek From: brinkfamily2000
15a. SWELLENDAMDOPE From: Annelie Els
15b. SWELLENDAMDOPE From: Annelie Els
16. [Koerant]Sunday Tribune 06 Januarie 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
17a. Re: Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, President van die Republiek van Stel From: Daniel Jacobs
18. Magda van Tonder se man oorlede From: Johan Pottas Boodskap 1a. Re: Daniel Abraham CELLIERS x Jacoba Johanna PRETORIUS Posted by: "Mariana Olivier" [email protected] cilliersolivier Sun Jan 6, 2008 1:25 am (PST)
Hallo Verna
Johan Ahlers het reeds geantwoord - ek het aanvullende data.
Indien jy belangstel, is jy welkom om my te kontak by [email protected]
Groete Mariana Olivier Kaapstad (Cellier/Celliers/Cillié/Cilliers-navorser)
Boodskap 2. FW: [SA-Gen] Steeds Bennie Liebenberg. Posted by: "Mariana Olivier" [email protected] cilliersolivier Sun Jan 6, 2008 1:25 am (PST)
Annelie, ek het nie hierdie een van SAGen terug ontvang nie - stuur dit dus weer.
Boodskap 3a. Gary Player se ma - van NIEKERK Posted by: "Lucas Rinken" [email protected] rinkenlg Sun Jan 6, 2008 1:40 am (PST)
Môre vriende,
In my soeke na Pres. van NIEKERK van Stellaland, het ek deur Johan GREEFF se VERWEY familie by Gary PLAYER uitgekom. Hy is getroud met Vivienne VERWEY, suster van die ook bekende golfspeler Bobby VERWEY.
Wat was my verbasing groot om te vind dat Gary se moeder ook volgens SAG 'n van NIEKERK was. Al verdere inligting wat gegee word is dat sy in 1943 oorlede is. Weet iemand dalk wie sy was? Ek kry niks op NAAIRS nie.
Gary se pa, Harry, wat as a2 aangegee word was die kleinseun van James PLAYER a1 maar dit sê nie welke van James se seuns Harry se vader was nie. Weet iemand dalk?
En verder interesant is dat James, Gary se oupagrootjie, getroud was met nog 'n van NIEKERK maar ons weet darem wie sy was:
Sarah Elisabeth van NIEKERK b4c1d7E6F1 (Genealogieë van die Afrikaner Families in Natal) * 13.11.1839 ~ Pietermaritzburg 2.4.1840 dv. Isaak Abraham van NIEKERK en Angenitha Maria OLIVIER, a2b7c6d4e1.
Verdere hulp sal waardeer word.
Dankie byvoorbaat en vriendelike groete,
Lucas
Boodskap 3b. Re: Gary Player se ma - van NIEKERK Posted by: "Isebelle Krauss" [email protected] iekrauss Sun Jan 6, 2008 2:08 am (PST)
Lucas, aangesien Gary se familie LDS is, sal jy die inligting op Familysearch.org kry....sekerlik net die direkte lyn...... maar ek weet hulle het in Sandton gereeld navorsing gedoen..
Isebelle
Isebelle E Krauss *Lloyd.
Boodskap 3c. Re: Gary Player se ma - van NIEKERK Posted by: "Lucas Rinken" [email protected] rinkenlg Sun Jan 6, 2008 3:16 am (PST)
Dankie Iaebelle,
Ongelukig kry ek niks daar nie.
Groetnis,
Lucas
Boodskap 3d. Re: Gary Player se ma - van NIEKERK Posted by: "Isebelle Krauss" [email protected] iekrauss Sun Jan 6, 2008 8:51 am (PST)
Ek sal vra.
Sou graag vir jou hul tel, nr. gegee het of dan haar sel, maar kan dit nie sonder hul toestemming doen nie... praat weer
Isebelle E Krauss *Lloyd.
Boodskap 3e. Re: Gary Player se ma - van NIEKERK Posted by: "Ronel Olivier" [email protected] olivierronel Sun Jan 6, 2008 9:23 am (PST)
Lucas ea.
Angenieta Maria (Mina) OLIVIER was a2b2c2d6e4f1 Ek noem dit net indien iemand in haar ook belangstel As daar enigsins iets is waarmee ek kan help aan die O kant vra gerus
Sarah Elisabeth van NIEKERK was dus die halfsuster van Gerhardus Marthinus MARITZ (Voortrekker Leier) se kinders Daar was ook 'n derde huwelik 11.05.1847 tussen Angenieta Maria OLIVIER en Schalk Willem VAN DER MERWE
Groete Ronel
Boodskap 3f. Re: Gary Player se ma - van NIEKERK Posted by: "Janet Melville" [email protected] jmelvillexsinetcoza Sun Jan 6, 2008 10:40 am (PST)
Angenita Maria Olivier - Familia 30p8 het ook oor hulle inligting. Sy het nie kinders by van der Merwe gehad nie.
Janet Melville Posbus 15215 Emerald Hill PE 6011 083 642 7744 H/Faks: 041 3792077 Researching: van der Merwe, Melville, Rudman, William Reynolds, Van Lingen and East Cape families
Boodskap 4a. Re: Botha ??? Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Sun Jan 6, 2008 2:10 am (PST)
Christo,
Ek het 'n lang lys van omtrent een honderd SA Familie Webblaaie. Klik op die skakel: http://www.greeff.info/tng01/familywebsites.php#South%20African%20Family%20Web sites en dan op die skakel na die Botha Familie Webblad. Dit is 'n uitstekende webblad, en ek glo sterk dat jy daar sal regkom.
Familie webblaaie is 'n uitstekende navorsingsbron. Francois Greeff ______Om by ons Greeff kuiernet ('n epos netwerk) aan te sluit, stuur asseblief 'n epos aan [email protected], met net die enkele woord, subscribe, as onderwerp en as inhoud.
Greeff Familie Webblad: www.Greeff.info
36 Aston Road London SW20 8BE United Kingdom of Great Britain
0044 20 8543 6966 (Home) or 020 8543 6966 0044 79 6372 2345 (Mobile) or 079 6372 2345 Skype: Greefffrancois
Boodskap 5. Greeff en Lichtenburg en Twycross Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Sun Jan 6, 2008 2:14 am (PST) ------From: "Johan Greeff"
> Dear Dennis, > > In ± 1980, Rev. Peter Twycross came from Pietermaritzburg to Stellenbosch, to take up duties as student chaplain at the St Mary's Anglican Church in Stellenbosch. My wife Gayle and I met Peter and his young wife Judy soon after they arrived, and we became involved with the congregation and became firm and close friends. Together with a farmer friend, Logie Buchanan, and a good number of others, we formed the Stellenbosch Christian Fellowship. > > Later Pete and Judy went to minister in Nairobi, Kenya. > > Peter's father was a stockbroker on the Johannesburg Stock Exchange, and Pete even did some holiday work with his dad as an assitant on the trading floor ! > > I am going to write to Pete and ask him if any of his forebears ever dwelt in the Lichtenburg - Biesiesfontein area, or had some business dealings there. > > (By the way, I lectured in Geology at Stellenbosch University for 35 > years, > (many of these under the leadership of the brilliant Prof Sieg Maske -- before he left us for Wits University), and had the priveledge of listening to you speak at a number of GSSA conferences!) > > Great to hear of your keen interest and knowledge of Genealogy. > > Best wishes, > > Johan Greeff > > ______> Johan Greeff [email protected] > National Director, ICEJ ( RSA Branch) > 3 Transvalia Avenue, Stellenbosch 7600. > Phone and Fax number : +27 021 883 3301 > NEW E-Mail FAX : +27 086 5177 516 > > G. J. Greeff (Ph.D. Geology) Pr. Sci. Nat. > DAYIMANZI CONSULTANTS (Pty) Ltd. > (Borehole site localization for groundwater). > Mobile Phone Number: + 27 082 658 2075
Boodskap 6a. Geboortes, huwelikke en sterftes in koerante Posted by: "Elmien Wood" [email protected] Sun Jan 6, 2008 7:59 am (PST)
Francois
Ek het gaan kyk wat daar by Netads24.com http://netads.24.com/Browse.aspx?catid=2 is.
Onder "Announcements" is daar Bithday wishes, Births, Divorce, Legal notices, Obituaries en Weddings. Maar ek kry nie berigte as ek dit oopmaak nie. Daar is byvoorbeeld by Obituaries 'n dertig tussen hakies (30), maar in die kategorie is daar niks nie.
Ek weet nog nie of dit ooreenstem met wat in die koerante geadverteer word nie. Ek het onder "Rotweiler" gesoek, maar die advertensie wat in Die Burger van 29 Desember was, was nie op die webblad nie, wel een van 1 Desember.
Gedurende die volgende paar dae gaan ek weer kyk wat ek kan kry. Groete Elmien
Boodskap 7. Magritha Magdalena MARAIS Posted by: "dickydube" [email protected] dickydube Sun Jan 6, 2008 9:58 am (PST)
More aan al die Marais Navorsers en ander
Is daar moontlik iemand wie my kan help met die voor en nasate van Magritha Magdalena MARAIS, gebore April 1888 "Kaap Provinsie" en oorlede 16/4/1948(9) te York Laan, Ferndale Johannesburg?? X met Johannes Petrus NIEUWOUDT.
Vriendelike groete, Cathy Nieuwoudt Birmingham V.S.A.
Boodskap 8. Susanna Magdalena VAN WYK Posted by: "dickydube" [email protected] dickydube Sun Jan 6, 2008 10:03 am (PST)
More aan die Van Wyk kenners en ander
Is daar moontlik iemand wie my kan help met die voor en nasate van Susanna Magdalena VAN WYK wie getroud was met Jacobus Roux NIEUWOUDT *20/9/1893 Hanover +22/4/1946 Witbank Hospitaal??
Ek waardeer enige hulp!!
Groete, Cathy Nieuwoudt Birmingham V.S.A.
Boodskap 9. Lotter, van den Berg Posted by: "Pieter du Venage" [email protected] pieterprofile Sun Jan 6, 2008 10:59 am (PST)
Beste lyslede
In die GenForum dae het ek en Rina Kroes agtergekom dat my verwysing na Matthias Lotter in my du Vinage boek dalk nie reg is nie. Die gegewens in my boek stem egter ooreen met die Lotter geslagsregister: http://www.lotter.co.za/
In die du Vinage boek :- Abraham Duvinage trou op 09-12-1770 te Kaapstad met Elsabe Magdalena Hasse, gebore op 27-06-1753 in Kaapstad. Sy is op 01-07-1753 in Kaapstad gedoop.
Sy sterf op 27-05-1782 te Graaff-Reinet, net 29 jaar oud.
Sy was die dogter van Johann Hasse van Braunschweig, bekende silwersmid aan die Kaap, en Anna Dorothea Meintjies van den Berg ~ 05-07-1711, weduwee van Matthias Lotter.
In die Lotter geslagsregister :- Matthäus(Matthias) Y Augbsurg c.1703 x Eur Susanna Roge, by wie hy 3 kinders gehad het, Anna Sabina, George Andreas, en Susanna, a.1733, vryburger 4–10-1735, xx Drakenstein 16-11-1736 Anna Dorothea MEIJNTJES van den Berg ≈ 5-7-1711 Matthias is op 25 Desember 1751 oorlede. Anna trou op 26 November 1752 met Johann Hasse. Johann was ‘n silwersmid vanaf Braunchweig, Duitsland.
Indien iemand met bg. gegwens verskil, laat weet my asb.
Beste Groete, Pieter du Venage Bronkhorstspruit (Geb. Philippolis) Stel belang in Duvenage, Pienaar, Theron, de Beer, Labuschagne, Kruger e-pos [email protected]
Boodskap 10. Fw: Nic van Helsdingen Posted by: "Dennis Laptop" [email protected] dennis_pretorius Sun Jan 6, 2008 11:15 am (PST) From: Dennis Laptop To: SA-Gen Bestuur Cc: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:59 PM Subject: Nic van Helsdingen
Hallo Almal
Alhoewel ons poslys bedoel is vir die deel van genealogiese inligting - het ons oor die afgelope vier jaar ook die kultuur ontwikkel om mekaar se lief en leed te deel - en dit is reg so.
Ek het nuus van Jean van Heldingen ontvang dat Nic baie ernstig siek is en tans in die hospitaal is vir behandeling vir kolonkanker.
Ek sluit Jean se e-pos hierby in en versoek almal wat vir Nic en Jean ken om vir hulle met ons gebede te ondersteun. Julle is ook welkom om direk aan Nic en Jean te skryf by [email protected]
Sodra ek meer nuus het sal ek dit aan julle oordra - of as julle nuus kry, laat weet my gerus dan plaas ek dit op die lys.
Groetnis
Dennis Pretorius, Krugersdorp, South Africa/Suid Afrika Executive Member of GSSA / Uitvoerende Lid van GGSA Genealogical Researcher/Genealogiese Navorser Owner of SAGenealogy E-mail list/Lyseienaar - SAGenealogie poslys E-Mail/E-pos: [email protected] Web address/Webadres: http://mzone.mweb.co.za/residents/k75/genealogy.html Telephone/Telefoon: +27-83-679-8541 Fax/Faks +27-86-609-8541 ----- Original Message ----- From: Nic van Helsdingen To: undisclosed-recipients: Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 2:12 PM Subject: Nic - Update 1
Dear Family and Friends,
Thank you to all those who phoned, emailed or sms'd. You have no idea how much it is appreciated and it is wonderful to know that there are those out there who care and who join us in our prayer circle. Thank you.
I am afraid I dont have good news. It was a bigger op than ever anticipated. Dr told Nic he removed 5ft of his colon (large intestine) so only has 12 inches of colon left, and yes it was definitely cancer. Unfortunately it had already spread to the small intestine, and so they had to remove a portion of that too. This seems to be a cause for concern according to the one Dr I spoke to last night. They apparently also removed the lymph glands which have been sent for testing, and this is where we all hold our breath and pray very hard. If those glands are "clean" then Nic will have a good chance of recovery provided it does not flair up somewhere else. However if they are infected then he is in for a very rough ride and the prognosis is not so good. Either way he will in all probablity go for chemo, but the level of aggressive treatment will be determined by the results of the tests, which we are expecting to receive sometime this week. So I am afraid our "big Bear" is a very sick man.
There is one ray of sunshine and that is that he does not need a bag, he was spared that one, a Huge Blessing. There is always something to be thankful for. While he is receiving pain medication via IV he says he is ok (so obviously they are using some powerful drugs) which is also a blessing, and still on oxygen - in fact he looks like Nicky's computer with all the wires and tubes. A space man. Last night he was a lot more aware of what was going on and spoke a bit more, not so tired and sleepy. He is also very positive about the outcome, which is also good - positive attitude is half the battle won.
He is still in ICU, and will be moved to another ward either tomorrow or the next day, where he will remain for another 14 days. We have also been told that the children must go for tests on a regular basis as this type of cancer is hereditary, especially as both biological grand parents had cancer and now their father.
I will continue to keep eveyone informed as we receive information and things progress. Please continue to pray for him.
Thank you for your support Love Jean.
Boodskap 11a. Vir Berna- Steeds Adriana (oba Ariana) Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Sun Jan 6, 2008 1:35 pm (PST)
Hallo julle twee, Simon en Cornel.
Sit nou in sus se huis om honde, visse en voëls op te pas saam met die huis; hulle by die see vir die week. Gesukkel om die internet weer hier op te stel. Klein jakkalsies wat tog so kan pla.
Nee wat ek is baie bly die probleem is uitgesorteer. Dat die vinger nou so op die verkeerde knop moes land! Toemaar Simon ek is heeltemal by nou, net lekker vaak, 23h35.
Ek sal dan my data ook korrigeer.
...... Julle is seker lankal in droomland.
Groete tot 'n volgende keer.
Berna
Boodskap 12a. Re: BOEK OPSOEK asseblief Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Sun Jan 6, 2008 3:29 pm (PST)
Hallo Gene ,
Die Argief het die ANNALS Of NATAL deur Prof Hattersley nie. Wel 2 ander en hule stop by 1880 se kant as ek reg onthou . Wat ek wel gekry het was THE PLACE OF THE ELEPHANT en ek het die bladsye afgeneem oor die geboue in PMB. Die hele hoofstuk. Ongelukkig was die kamera op kleingestel en ek het dit eers later opgemerk en toe wou hy nie reg stel nie. Ek stuur die bladsye aan
Maandag aand OK.
Rita uit Durban.
Boodskap 13a. Privaat Lucas Rinken Posted by: "Ronel Olivier" [email protected] olivierronel Sun Jan 6, 2008 4:49 pm (PST) e-pos na jou bons terug met boodskap
Is daar 'n ander adres? groete Ronel
Boodskap 13b. Re: Privaat Lucas Rinken Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Sun Jan 6, 2008 5:30 pm (PST)
Lucas se epos adres gee tans probleme. Hy kan epos vir almal stuur, maar sommige mense se epos aan hom kom nie by hom uit nie. Probeer weer. Sy epos adres is [email protected]
Hy ontvang my persoonlike epos, maar nie die Greeff eposlys se epos nie. As jy wil, Ronel, stuur jou brief vir my ([email protected]), dan stuur ek dit vir Lucas.
Groete, Francois Greeff
Boodskap 14a. KAB Opsoek Posted by: "brinkfamily2000" [email protected] brinkfamily2000 Sun Jan 6, 2008 7:16 pm (PST)
Goeie more almal, ek bedel die volgende opsoek asb. Ek wil baie graag sy ouers se inligting bekom:
DEPOT KAB SOURCE MOOC VOLUME_NO 6/9/675 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 2727 PART 1 DESCRIPTION GROENEWALD, JACOB LAMBERT BERNARDUS. DEATH NOTICE.
Groete Arend
Boodskap 15a. SWELLENDAMDOPE Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Sun Jan 6, 2008 8:17 pm (PST)
BRUWER
Johanna Hendrika 27 Dec 1829 11 Apr 1830 FATHER:- Johannes Hendrik BRUWER MOTHER:- Martha Maria MOLLER Witness Pieter Diederik Emilius STREICHER Johanna Catharina BLOM Hendrik Jacobus BRUWER Helena Catharina BRUWER
BADENHORST
Cornelia Margaretha 28 Feb 1830 12 Apr 1830 FATHER:- Wessel Johannes Badenhorst MOTHER:- Anna Margaretha GILDENHUYS (GILDENHUIS)
Witness Petrus Johannes BADENHORST Martha Cornelia DU TOIT Casper Hendrik BADENHORST Martha Maria WESSELS Susanna Maria Cornelia BADENHORST
BOTHA
Jacobus Lodivicus 28 Nov 1829 18 Apr 1830 FATHER:- Louis Isaias Botha MOTHER:- Elsje Susanna MULLER Witness Pieter Engelbertus DU PREEZ Maria Francina MULLER Pieter Gysbert STEYN Maria Francina MULLER (??herhaling van bo)
BOTTMAN
William Thomas Richard 18 Dec 1829 19 Dec 1830 onecht lieden FATHER:- Jacob Bottman MOTHER:- Wilhwlmina KOSTER Witness John SAUNDERS Elizabeth Mary WILLS John Richard STEAR BRUWER Fredrick Johannes 26 Aug 1829 4 Oct 1829 FATHER:- Jacobus Stephanus Bruwer MOTHER:- Susanna Helena VAN DEN VYVER Witness Jacobus Albertus VAN ZYL Frederica Johanna VAN DEN VYVER
BERG
Maria Margaretha, VAN DEN 11 May 1829 18 Oct 1829 FATHER:- Andries Cornelis Lodewyk van den Berg MOTHER:- Judith Jacoba VAN TONDER Witness Matthys VAN TONDER & Maria Margaretha DE JAGER Jacobus Petrus JONKER & Maria Margaretha VAN TONDER
BADENHORST
Johanna Maria Catharina 30 Sep 1829 29 Nov 1829 FATHER:- Lourens Badenhorst Jnr MOTHER:- Maria Catharina KLYNSMITH (KLEYNSMITH)
Witness Adriaan KLYNSMITH (KLEYNSMITH) & Maria Catharina VAN NIEKERK Jan NIEMAND ?? & Maria Catharina ODENDAL (ODENDAAL) Hans Jurie MOOLMAN & Johanna Dorothea HUMAN Johan Hendrik George BERGMANS Engela Sophia EKSTEEN
BUSSON
Philippus Lodewicus Jacobus, DU 19 Jul 1829 20 Dec 1829 FATHER:- David Ryk Hendrik du Busson MOTHER:- Johanna Louisa DE BRUYN Witness Philippus Lodewicus DU BRUYN Snr & Aletta Johanna MARAIS Philippus Lodewicus DU BRUYN Jnr & Susara MARAIS Theunis Bernardus DE BRUYN & Dina ODENDAL (ODENDAAL) Theunis Jacobus BOTHA & Catharina Johanna ODENDAL (ODENDAAL)
BADENHORST
Susanna Geertruida Maria 7 Sep 1824 17 Apr 1825 FATHER:- Casper Hendrik Badenhorst (Barend Zoon)
MOTHER:- Catharina Helena VAN PAPENDORP Witness Mattheus VAN PAPENDORP & Susanna Geertruida UYS Barend BADENHORST & Susanna WESSELS Ernst Hendrik KLEYNSMIT & Susanna Hermina LOURENS Petrus Johannes UYS (Piet Zoon) & Susanna Hermina UYS
BEUKES
Daniel Hermanus 21 Jan 1825 8 May 1825 FATHER:- David Nicolaas Beukes MOTHER:- Maria Elisabeth STEYN Witness David Nicolaas BEUKES Jnr Maria Elisabeth BEUKES Mattheus Gerhardus BEUKES Jnr Susanna Hermina LINDE
BOTHA
Louis Johannes 30 Oct 1824 22 May 1825 FATHER:- Marthinus Johannes BOTHA MOTHER:- Emerentia Adriana FOURIE Witness Louis Johannes FOURIE Eva Catharina SNYMAN Christoffel Gerhardus FOURIE Anna Louisa FOURIE
BADENHORST
Petrus Johannes 28 Mar 1825 29 May 1825 FATHER:- Frans Hendrik Badenhorst MOTHER:- Catharina Johanna Susanna JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Witness Petrus Johannes BADENHORST Snr Susanna Margaretha GILDENHUIS (GILDENHUYS) Hendrik Cornelis Wilhelmus ?? Anna Margaretha BADENHORST
BEUKES
Roelof Jacobus Francois 11 Feb 1826 4 Jul 1826 FATHER:- Roelof Johannes Beukes MOTHER:- Sara Johanna Susanna VAN WYK Witness Francois JOUBERT Helena Elisabeth VAN WYK Francois Elisa VAN WYK Maria Magdalena JOUBERT
BAM
Christina Frederica 30 Jun 1826 17 Sep 1826 FATHER:- Jan Ferdinand Bam MOTHER:- Wilhelmina Magdalena VLOTMAN Witness Fredrik LINGENFELDER Christina LOCHNER
BRUWER
Maria Sibella 14 Aug 1826 1 Oct 1826 FATHER:- Jacobus Stephanus Bruwer MOTHER:- Susanna Helena VAN DEN VYVER Witness Fredrik Johannes VAN DEN VYVER Maria Sibella VAN DER MERWE Daniel Jacobus BRUWER Geertruida Jacoba SMITH Gabriel Jacobus LE ROE ( LE ROUX) Josina Elisabeth BRUWER Schalk Willem BRUWER Maria Elisabeth VAN DEN VYVER
BADENHORST
Wilhelmina Geertrui 14 Aug 1826 1 Oct 1826 FATHER:- Lourens Badenhorst MOTHER:- Catharina Elisabeth MOOLMAN Witness Marthinus JANSE VAN RENSBURG Wilhelmina Geertui MOOLMAN Petrus Lafras UYS Johanna Wilhelmina BADENHORST
BEUKES
Gerhardus Johannes 28 Oct 1826 26 dec 1826 FATHER:- Gerhardus Johannes Beukes MOTHER:- Jacoba Elisabeth ODENDAL (ODENDAAL) Witness Sameul ODENDAL (ODENDAAL) & Jacoba Elisabeth DE JAGER Gerhardus Johannes BEUKES Jnr & Elisabeth VAN WYK Christina Isabella ODENDAL (ODENDAAL) Elisabeth BEUKES
BADENHORST
Susanna Maria Magdalena 12 Sep 1826 26 Dec 1826 FATHER:- Wessel Johannes Badenhorst MOTHER:- Anna Maria GILDENHUYS (GILDENHUIS) Witness Johannes Cornelis SWART Susanna Dorothea GILDENHUIS (GILDENHUYS) Frans Hendrik BADENHORST Catharina Johanna Susanna JANSE VAN RENSBURG Floris Adriaan LUCK & Maria Elisabeth BESTERD (BESTER)
BRUGMAN
Elsje Magdalena 18 Apr 1826 2 Jan 1827 FATHER:- Carel Willem Brugman MOTHER:- Maria Aletta VAN ZYL Witness Adolph Johannes VAN COLLER Maria Solomie SLABBERT Fredrik Jacobus VAN ZYL (Gert Zoon) Johanna Margaretha VAN COLLER Ockert Stephanus KRIGER & Elsje ? Johanna VAN WYK
BLIGNAULT
Margaretha Susanna Petronella 27 Oct 1826 25 Feb 1827 FATHER:- Andries Petrus Blignault MOTHER:- Margaretha Susanna Petronella VAN WYK Witness Daniel VAN WYK & Margaretha Susanna VAN DE BERG Daniel Jacobus VAN DE BERG Isabella Jacomina Elisabeth Maria VAN TONDER ? Rachel Margaretha Petronella KLEYNHANS
BAUER
Petronella Cornelia 14 Oct 1826 11 Feb 1827 FATHER:- Cornelis Tobias Bauer MOTHER:- Johanna Stoffelina LANDMAN Witness Nicolaas JANSE VAN RENSBURG & Petronella Cornelia SCHEEPERS Fredrik JANSE VAN RENSBURG & Jacomina Elisabeth OOSTHUYSEN Jeremias Esaias BAUER & Elisabeth JANSE VAN RENSBURG Reynier JANSE VAN RENSBURG & Klassina Petronella JANSE VAN RENSBURG Johan Jacob PIENAAR & Sara Jacoba PIENAAR
BEKKER
Andries Johannes 16 May 1826 25 Feb 1827 FATHER:- Andries Johannes Bekker MOTHER:- Maria Cornelia JOUBERT Witness David Johannes JOUBERT Margaretha Elisabeth JOUBERT Maria Christina MULDER (wed Andries BEKKER) Maria Elisabeth VAN TONDER (wed Josua JOUBERT)
BADENHORST
Willem Abraham 6 Nov 1826 25 Feb 1827 FATHER:- Frans Hendrik Badenhorst MOTHER:- Catharina Johanna Susanna JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Witness Adriaan Lodevicus VAN WYK Catharina Johanna VERMAAK Willem Abraham JANSE VAN RENSBURG Susanna Elisabeth MULLER
BESTER
Michiel Johan 30 Jan 1827 18 Mar 1827 FATHER:- Michiel Johan Bester MOTHER:- Gerbricht Elisabeth VOSLOO Witness Adolph Johannes JONKER Anna Johanna Maria VOSLOO
BRUWER
Martha Maria 31 Dec 1827 6 Apr 1828 FATHER:- Johannes Hendrik BRUWER MOTHER:- Martha Maria MOLLER Witness David Jacobus LE ROE ( LE ROUX ) & Martha Maria HOUISMAN ?? Gideon David JOUBERT & Maria Elisabeth BRUWER Gabriel Jacobus LE ROE ( LE ROUX ) Josina Elisabeth BRUWER
BOTHA
Susanna Marthina 17 Dec 1827 7 Apr 1828 FATHER:- Louis Isaias Botha MOTHER:- Elsje Susanna MULLER Witness Marthinus STEYN (Marth zoon) Susanna Salomina STEYN Jacobus Albertus VAN ZYL Johanna Susanna HUMAN Hans Jurgens CROUS Susanna Elisabeth DU PLESSIS
BADENHORST
Dirk Cornelis Petrus 13 Dec 1827 7 Apr 1828 FATHER:- Lourens Badenhorst (L zoon) MOTHER:- Maria Catharina KLEYNSMIT Witness Dirk Cornelis KLEYNSMIT Susanna Johanna SWART Dirk Cornelis LOURENS Cornelia Susanna GILDENHUYS (GILDENHUIS) Cornelis Petrus LOURENS Johanna Dorothea GILDENHUYS (GILDENHUIS) Sebastiaan Jacobus CROUS Johanna Wilhelmina BADENHORST
BRUWER
Gideon Jacobus 26 Mar 1828 7 Sep 1828 FATHER:- Jacobus Stephanus Bruwer Snr MOTHER:- Sara Susanna JOUBERT Witness Gideon Jacobus JOUBERT Aletta Catharina DROTSKE Jacobus Stephanus BRUWER Aletta Francina BRUWER Susanna Magdalena BRUWER
BADENHORST
Petrus Johannes 16 Mar 1828 7 Sep 1828 FATHER:- Casper Hendrik Badenhorst MOTHER:- Geertruida Johanna LOURENS Witness Petrus Johannes BADENHORST Snr Susanna Margaretha GILDENHUYS (GILDENHUIS) Petrus Johannes BADENHORST Jnr Martha Magdalena DU TOIT Petrus Cornelis LOURENS Dina Maria SWART Wessel Johannes BADENHORST (Piet zoon) Anna Maria GILDENHUIS (GILDENHUYS)
BOTHA
Johannes Hermanus 15 Aug 1828 5 Oct 1828 FATHER:- Marthinus Johannes BOTHA MOTHER:- Amerentia Adriana FOURIE Witness Johannes Christoffel BOTHA & Elsje KRIEGER (KRUGER) Johannes Hermanus FOURIE Sophia Johanna LOMBARD
Boodskap 15b. SWELLENDAMDOPE Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Sun Jan 6, 2008 8:23 pm (PST)
BEUKMAN
Gideon 21 Mar 1828 5 Oct 1828 FATHER:- Christoffel Beukman MOTHER:- Magdalena Margaretha VAN ZYL Witness Lourens Matthys LE ROE (LE ROUX) Cornelia Magdalena BEUKMAN Gideon VAN ZYL Elsje Sophia VAN ZYL
BURGERS
Johannes Hendrik 15 Jun 1828 5 Oct 1828 FATHER:- Barend Bartholmeus Burgers MOTHER:- Jacomina Elisabeth JORDAAN Witness Johannes Hendrik JORDAAN Geertruida Petronella BADENHORST Jacomina Elisabeth BURGERS David Jacob BURGERS
BADENHORST
Anna Maria 18 Jun 1828 5 Oct 1828 FATHER:- Wessel Johannes Badenhorst MOTHER:- Anna Maria GILDENHUYS (GILDENHUIS) Witness Pieter Arnoldus GILDENHUYS Catharina Magdalena KEMP Hendrik Cornelis Wilhelmus VERMAAS Anna Magdalena BADENHORST
BADENHORST
Frans Hendrik 12 Jul 1828 5 Oct 1828 FATHER:- Barend Badenhorst (P.zoon) MOTHER:- Elisabeth Maria BRITS Witness Casper Hendrik BADENHORST (P. zoon) Geetruida Johanna LOURENS Willem WESSELS Geertuida GILDENHUYS (GILDENHUIS)
BANK
Jacob Johannes, VAN DER 4 Feb 1828 15 Oct 1828 FATHER:- Arnoldus van der Bank MOTHER:- Aletta Johanna Maria DU PLOOY Witness Dirk VAN DER BANK & Catharina VAN WYK Jacob VAN DER BANK & Petronella Willemina DU PLOOY Jan LE GRANGE & Martha VOSLOO
BADENHORST
Johanna Catharina Wilhelmina 11 Oct 1828 26 Dec 1828 FATHER:- Jan Hendrik Badenhorst MOTHER:- Magdalena Geertruida KRIEL Witness Lourens BADENHORST Snr Catharina Elisabeth MOOLMAN Johannes VAN COLLER Johanna Willemina BADENHORST Hendrik Johannes KRIEL Johanna Sophia JANSE VAN RENSBURG Johannes Frederik JANSE VAN RENSBURG Anna Susanna JANSE VAN RENSBURG
BRUWER
Susanna Helena 22 Oct 1828 26 Dec 1828 FATHER:- Schalk Willem Bruwer MOTHER:- Anna Magdalena DU TOIT Witness Fredrik Jacobus RABE Susanna Helena BRUWER Fredrik Hendrik CONRADIE Anna Pieternella DU TOIT Lourens Frans DE WET Helena Catharina BRUWER
BRUWER
Johannes Petrus 28 Jul 1828 28 Dec 1828 FATHER:- Johannes Petrus Bruwer MOTHER:- Maria Margaretha LE ROE (LE ROUX) Witness Daniel Jacobus BRUWER & Geertuida SMIT Gert BRUWER & Geertruida Johanna VAN DER VYVER
BREITENBACH
Maria Margaretha 8 May 1829 31-Jul-29 FATHER:- Nicolaas Lourens Breitenbach MOTHER:- Cornelia Christina VAN TONDER Witness Matthys VAN TONDER & Maria Margaretha DE JAGER Jacobus JONKER & Maria Margaretha VAN TONDER Barend Johannes VREY & Maria BREITENBACH
BADENHORST
Catharina Johanna 17 Dec 1828 29 Mar 1829 FATHER:- Frans Hendrik BADENHORST MOTHER:- Catharina Johanna Susanna JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Witness Jacobus Fredrik VAN WYK Martha Adriana VAN WYK Johannes Jacobus VAN WYK Elisabeth Maria VAN WYK
BRITS
Judith Margaretha Johanna 14 Nov 1828 12 Apr 1829 FATHER:- Hans Jacob Brits (Corn zoon) MOTHER:- Anna Cornelia STRYDOM Witness Gerhardus Josua VAN NIEKERK Margaretha Johanna STRYDOM Susanna Jacoba CRONJE Diana Judith Geertruida Wouterina RAAL
BURGERS
Maria Johanna 9 Dec 1828 20 Apr 1829 FATHER:- Alewyn Petrus Burgers MOTHER:-Maria Johanna ROUX Witness Alewyn Petrus BURGERS (Alewyn zoon) Sara Susanna JORDAAN Johannes Hendrik CONRADIE Martha Johanna BURGERS
BARRY
Elizabeth Mary-Ann 30 Mar 1829 20 Apr 1829 FATHER:- Joseph Barry MOTHER:- Johanna Martina VAN REENEN Witness Johan Wilhelm SMALBERGER Johanna Wilhelmina DU PLESSIS Johanna Jacoba GROENEWALD Johanna Maria Dirkina DENEYS
JAGER
Jacoba Elisabeth, DE 20 Apr 1828 28 Sep 1828 FATHER:- Lourens de Jager (Lourens zoon) MOTHER:- Christina Isabella ODENDAL (ODENDAAL) Witness Samuel ODENDAL (ODENDAAL) & Jacoba Elisabeth DE JAGER Gerhardus Johannes BEUKES & Jacoba Elisabeth ODENDAL (ODENDAAL) Samuel Wilhelm ODENDAL (ODENDAAL) Barbara Magdalena DE JAGER
JANEKE
Helena Petronella 28 Jul 1828 1 Oct 1828 FATHER:- Johan Joachum Janeke MOTHER:- Susanna Catharina VOLSCHENK Witness Paulus GROBLER Helena Petronella GROBLER Cornelis Johannes VOLSCHENK Maria Catharina VOLSCHENK
JOUBERT
Jacomina Pieternella Elisabeth 3 Mar 1828 5 Oct 1828 FATHER:- Josua Petrus JOUBERT MOTHER:- Susanna Catharina Maria BURGERS Witness Barend Bartholomeus BURGERS Jacomina Elisabeth JORDAAN Sara Susanna JOUBERT (wed WFJ VAN ZYL) Jacomina Elisabeth BURGERS Abraham Petrus LE ROE (LE ROUX) Elisabeth CONRADIE
JOUBERT
Carel Cornelis 15 Aug 1827 2 Nov 1828 FATHER:- Pieter JOUBERT MOTHER:- Martha Margaretha HAASBROEK Witness Carel Francois HAASBROEK & Cornelia VAN TONDER Carel Francois MARAIS & Maria Cornelia JOUBERT
Boodskap 16. [Koerant]Sunday Tribune 06 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Sun Jan 6, 2008 9:55 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
GEBOORTES:- BAME Christopher & Donna 'n dogter * 03/01/2008 .1ste Kleinkind vir Mike & Sally.
MacKAY Doug & Jules 'n dogter Georgia Ann * 02/01/2008.
MOODIE nee ZIMMERMAN Michael & Kirsti 'n seun Matt Rohan * 26/12/2007 in Parklands. Kleinkind ,"nephew" en neef vir Rohan, Dolores, Sharon, Gary en Anne en Kayla.
VERLOWINGS:- BRYON STAINBANK Brenda & Chris en Elaine & Lionel se kinders Andrea en Keith is verloof.
GLAZER~ CAMPBELL . Greg se oudste seun Gareth aan Kerrin .Ook ingest deur Susan, Suellen en Bubsy.
LOTTERING Charmaine se seun Mario aan Cindy , dogter van Brenda & Andre STRYDOM.
RALFE Robin & Liz se dogter Joanne aan Renee VANDENBERG. Almal vanaf Durban.
SIMPSON Chris & Nanette se dogter Tarryn aan Nicholas, oudste seun van Johan & Karilyn NORTJE.
TWEEDIE Rodney & Micheline se dogter Louise aan Michael , seun van Damien & Celine McIIROY.
DOOD:- BACK Stuart Graham 08/05/1947-----01/01/2008.Memorial 7/01/2008 by Pinetown Baptiste Kerk om 3 nm.Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH 0312059959.
BELMAN Myra †2/01/2008 x Edgar. Ma en skoonma van Alan & Ingrid, Eric & Cheryl, Garry & Bernice, Ouma van Tyron & Faye, Jason & Cherry, Roger & Moira, Martin & Kerry, Jared & Candice, Marc & Kelly, Halinka & Nic & Centaine. Oumagroot van McKayla, Bradley, Tyler, Courtney & Mitchell. Memorial by The Universal Mind Willowvale Rd Glenwood 8/01/2008 om 11.30 vm. Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH 031 2059959.
Alma ROSSOUW ( BLAINE) †15/12/2007 x Dr Matthew G BLAINE .Ma van Gillon , Shawn, Henry en Hester.Ouma van Brendan, Melissa, Megan, Joanna, Jonathan , William en Robert. Diens was klein op haar versoek. Briewe en boodskappe na P.O.Box 21215 Bluff 4036. Memorial later.
BOOTE Noel Nelson 28/12/1917 -----02/01/2008 in Umhlanga Hospitaal x June .Pa en oupa.
COTTON Joyce Elizabeth ( Mona) van Wentworth. x Albert. Ma ,skoonma, ouma ,oumagroot en suster. Begrafnis by Christ The King Parish Wentworth op 7/01/2008 om 12 middag. Verassing privaat.
DOYLE Arthur †3/01/2008 . Pa ,skoonpa en oupa van Kevin, Sharon, Trent en Ryan.
FORBES John Alexander Richard. Simpatie aan familie van Mount Edgecombe Country Club.
JOHANSEN Anthony Richard (Tony) 23/07/1958 ------30/12/2007. Memorial by Old Ford Rd Chapel Durban op 07/01/2008 om 11.15 vm.
JOHNSON Carmen Claudia . Vrou en ma . Ingesit deur Cordi en Roan.
McDONALD nee JEROME Valerie . Vriendin van Johan, Lorraine en DE GOEDE familie.
MERCER nee WHITE Peggy †30/12/2007 by Natal Settlers. Ma , skoonma en ouma van Colin, Barbara, David en Claire.
MURRAY Patrick Ritson †03/01/2008.
NOURSE Pam x †Sas. Ma van Ann (CHEDLOCK) . Ouma van Lea HUGHES. Memorial by St Thomas Church Musgrave op 08/01/2008 om 10vm.
PARKER Mildred Tess . Ma van Errol, Beverley en Cheryl. Skoonma van Andrew ,Thye en Doris. Ouma van Matthew, Michael, Charles, Craig, Timothy, Mildri, Liette, Chris, Clay, Josh(Teddy), Melanie en Wayne. Memorial op 08/01/2008 by Sweetwaters Full Gospel Church Winkelspruit om 10 vm. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500
RANDERIA Dolly †4/01/2008. Begrafnis was 5/01/2008.
RADFORD Angela Pamela . Lewensmaat van David GOULD Ma van Lloyd GOULD . Dogter van Margarite. Begrafnis by DOVES Greyville 8/01/2008 om 11vm. Ingesit deur DOVES.0860025500. TREWIN Peggy †3/01/2008 op ouderdom 91by Ridgewood Care Centre. Ma van Bev en Candy. Ouma van Carl, Lisa, Brendon en Alison. Oumagroot van Emma en Kayla .Verassing Privaat.
VAN DER MOLEN Elizabeth M (Betty) 14/04/1920 -----02/01/2008. Ma van Kenneth, Valerie, Michael (Mike) en Shez. Skoonma van Sherill .Ouma en oumagroot en suster. Memorial by Seventh Day Adventist Church Umbilo , op 8/01/2008 om 10 vm .
MEMORIAM :-ASHWORTH Matthew. Onthou deur Model Meats .
BROWNE Harry .Onthou deur BB.
CAMPBELL Colleen (Nannie) 5 jaar dood nou .Onthou deur familie . Blondie & familie.
CLARKE Hilda North. Ma van Tony & Alice.
FLOWER Peter †06/01/2003 x Jen.
GORDON NELL †5/01/2007 .Ma van Linda ,Louis, Darryl, Lian en Marc.
HAYHOW nee STAINTON Maureen Lilian 28/12/1932 ----05/01/2004. x Dennis, ma ,ouma en oumagroot.
JONES George. 1 jaar dood nou . x Geen naam. Pa van Anthony, Laurine, Mario & Tarilyn.
MANNING Maureen †05/01/2007 .Ma en ouma van Dolores, Warren, Karl, & Mellisa ; Ettie, Brenda en seuns ; Terry, Curly en familie, ;Alban, Pam en familie.; Mark, Jenny en familie.; Marian, Kurt en Jason; Colleen.
NEERMUL Bee .17 jaar dood nou. Vrou ,ma skoonma en ouma.
ROYSTON Desmond †07/01/2006 . Onthou deur Elise, Richard, Shane ,klein Kyra, Jennifer en Damon.
SERJEANT Rene. Ma en ouma van Ron, Bonnie, Sara en Joshua.
Gegroet uit Warm Durban alreeds. Rita Quebbemann
Boodskap 17a. Re: Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, President van die Republiek van Stel Posted by: "Daniel Jacobs" [email protected] Sun Jan 6, 2008 11:39 pm (PST)
Beste Vriende
I aansluiting by my vorige boodskappe oor GOOGLE BOOKS hiermee die eerste 10 van 186 verwysings op die soekwoorde "Stellaland van Niekerk" Austral Africa; Losing it Or Ruling it: Being Incidents and Experiences in ... - Page 116
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Groete
Daniel Jacobs www.gendata.co.za
Boodskap 18. Magda van Tonder se man oorlede Posted by: "Johan Pottas" [email protected] pottasjj Mon Jan 7, 2008 12:32 am (PST)
Dag almal
Ek skryf namens Magda die kort briefie, ek het vanoggend met haar gepraat en haar man Kobus is geister oorlede. Hy is na 'n siekbed van oor die 3 jaar oorlede.
Die roudiens word gehou op Vrydag 11 Januarie om 11:00 in die skoolsaal van die CVO Dankbaar skool, net buite Bloemfontein.
Kobus se volle besonderhede is: Jacobus Machiel van Tonder * 08/07/1957 + 06/01/2008
Groete
Johan J Pottas Rekensentrum UV Tel: +27-51-401-2767 werk Tel: +27-51-522-7329 huis Tel: +27-82-569-3727 sel Faks: +27-51-401-2765 werk Posbus 34559, Faunasig, 9325 Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3047
Datum: Mon Jan 7, 2008
Daar is 1 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1. LUSCOMBE From: barkerma barker Boodskap 1. LUSCOMBE Posted by: "barkerma barker" [email protected] Mon Jan 7, 2008 12:36 am (PST)
Is daar dalk iemand wat aan bogenoemde van werk? vriendelike groete
Mark Barker Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3048
Datum: Mon Jan 7, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1. KROESE - Piketberg, Koringberg, Moorreesburg From: aneendewitt
2a. VAN NIEKERK From: June van Niekerk
3a. Re: Magda van Tonder se man oorlede From: Fanie Blignaut
4a. Korsten hulp benodig asb. From: Karin Serfontein
5a. Re: Van Der Merwe ?? From: M.C v.d Merwe
6a. Gesegdes of "one liner quotes" From: Karin Serfontein
7. Martin Familie From: Charlie Els
8a. PRINSLOO From: Ben Cilliers
8b. Re: PRINSLOO From: Karin Serfontein
9a. Deurbraak meedeel From: dickydube
9b. Re: Deurbraak meedeel From: Annelie Els
9c. Re: Deurbraak meedeel From: Karin Serfontein
9d. Re: Deurbraak meedeel From: Cathy
10. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 05 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
11. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 07 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
12. Pienaar en Pieters From: Alta Roux
13a. BRIEL - ERASMUS en DNA analises From: Ina Penberthy
13b. Re: BRIEL - ERASMUS en DNA analises From: Annelie Els
14. Lyswyshede 10 -Laaste From: Simon du Plooy
15. (no subject) From: [email protected]
16. (Koerant) Beeld 07 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
17. HULP MET BADENHORST ASB From: Verna Fourie
18. van Rensburg /Bouwer From: BD Leach
19. David DU PLOOY, *12 Febr 1877, Potchefstroom. From: [email protected]
20a. Re: TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg From: Willeen Olivier Boodskap 1. KROESE - Piketberg, Koringberg, Moorreesburg Posted by: "aneendewitt" [email protected] aneendewitt Mon Jan 7, 2008 1:26 am (PST)
Môre allie mense ;o)
Ek het groot asseblief hulp nodig met die Kroeses.
Ek het op die SA Witbladsye gesnuffel en 25 geregistreerde Kroeses in SA gekry. Volgens skoonma is almal van die dieselfde klompie Kroeses "vertak". Ek het darem ook al 'n bietjie ander inligting gekry, maar dit smaak my dié spul se boeke is so toe soos 'n klei-os se jis.
Volgens "oorlewering" het die Jan Gottfried / Godfried Kroeses in die Moorreesburg-area op Klein Swartfontein gewoon. Jan was getroud met Catherina Hendrina CARSTENS + 9 Junie 1924. Hulle kinders is / was Jan Godfried, Matthys Lowies Johannes en Elsje (getroud met 'n Carstens). Die oorspronklikes het op Somersverdriet, Koringberg, gewoon en dan was daar ook enkeles in die omgewing van die Misverstanddam, Piketberg. Jan se pa was 'n Christiaan Hendrik Nicholaas Kroese van Somersverdriet en was met 'n MARIA MAGDALENA de JONGH getroud.
Is daar dalk DE JONGH- of CASTENS-navorsers wat 'n skakel het? Of selfs 'n SMITH? (Huwelik 3/25/1850 SMITH, Cecilia Maria and KROESE, C. H. N. Piketberg)
Enige en alle hulp sal vreeslik gaaf wees.
;o) Aneen Kroese
Boodskap 2a. VAN NIEKERK Posted by: "June van Niekerk" [email protected] junehamiltonza Mon Jan 7, 2008 1:51 am (PST)
Hi Francois, Lucas en ander kenners!
Ek soek nog steeds na die voorvaders van die volgende, miskien kan een van julle help?
Frederik Willem van Niekerk x Johanna Elizabeth Meyer (dv Essias Engelbertus Meyer x Christina Louisa Margaretha Lewis (of Louis soos op NAAIRS aangegee). Drie kinders uit hierdie huwelik: Paul x Aletta ?, Christina x ? Cockeran, Frederick William * 8 Sep 1929 + 5 Mei 2000 x Francina Wilhelmina Spies * 22 Sep 1929 (hierdie paartjie is my man se ouers)
June van Niekerk Brackenfell Kaap
(Van Niekerk, Hamilton, Spies, Lubbe, Lindeque, Viljoen)
Boodskap 3a. Re: Magda van Tonder se man oorlede Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Mon Jan 7, 2008 2:33 am (PST)
Dag Johan,
Dra ons meegevoel oor aan Magda en die familie met hulle verlies.
Fanie en Hikkie Blignaut, Vanderbijlpark.
Boodskap 4a. Korsten hulp benodig asb. Posted by: "Karin Serfontein" [email protected] Mon Jan 7, 2008 5:00 am (PST)
Hallo almal,
Kan iemand my asb help met Jacoba Johanna KORSTEN * 14.12.1913 se inligting rakende haar voorgeslagte. Jacoba was die suster van Ge KORSTEN se pa.
Baie dankie byvoorbaat vir enige hulp,
Groete,
Karin.
Boodskap 5a. Re: Van Der Merwe ?? Posted by: "M.C v.d Merwe" [email protected] Mon Jan 7, 2008 6:13 am (PST)
Beste Christo
Ek het vir jou gaan opkyk in die van der Merwe boek van Janet Melville en die enigste een wat pas volgens die datum is :
Bls 800 haar afstamming is : b3 Schalk c13 Gerrit d5 Schalk Willem e2 Gerrit Schalk
F3 Gert van der Merwe – Veldkornetskap C van der Nest - * 1826.07.15 = Cradock 1826.08.05 + plaas Brandewyn, Rouxville 1915.01.11
Hy laat 8 sakke koring, 9 skape en weinige artikels huisraad , alles ter waarde van dertienpond na en eise teen die boedel is 14 pond.
Toe hy sy seun Pieter Willem laat doop in Smithfield is sy naam Gert Hendrik in die doopregister.
X 1846.06.10 Cradock Johanna Jacoba de Bruin * Cradock 1827.10.27 = 1829.04.06 + Chilteroe, Rouxville, in woonhuis van J B Greyling 1890.08.26.
Toe sy haar kinders laat doop is haar name deurgaans as Johanna Margaretha in die Smithfield doopregister en na haar word ook verwys as geen lidmaat. d.v. De Bruin, Hendrik Johannes * 1795.01.13 & Coetzer, Johanna Jacoba * 1794.07.13 g5 Van der Merwe, Jacoba Margaretha * 1855.12.13 = Smithfield 1856.04.13: BY HAAR DOOP IS HAAR MOEDER AS Jacoba Margaretha aangegee;
By haar huwelik word sy 34jarige vrou van Wepener genoem
X1890.02.24 Wepener ; Greyling, Lucas Cornelius * 1836 – 54 jarige wewenaar en boer van Ladybrand met huwelik
Al wat ek van bg inligting kan aflei dat sy na Greyling se dood met ‘n Brits getroud is. Het sy kinders gehad ?
Boodskap 6a. Gesegdes of "one liner quotes" Posted by: "Karin Serfontein" [email protected] Mon Jan 7, 2008 6:16 am (PST)
Dagsê almal,
Ek is opsoek na kort gesegdes - "one liner quotes" wat ek kan gebruik as "fillers". Enige iets oor genealogie, 'n oupa of familie sal welkom wees. Ek wil graag die inligting wat ek het rakende my oupa Frederick Ernest Smith bymekaar sit vir my familie.
Indien iemand kan help sal ek dit baie waardeer, Rita jy het seker baie??
Hoop julle dag is mooi,
Groete,
Karin.
Boodskap 7. Martin Familie Posted by: "Charlie Els" [email protected] charlieels Mon Jan 7, 2008 6:43 am (PST)
Hallo Lysvriende,
Ek dink daar was so 'n tyd gelede navrae of bespreking op die lys oor die van MARTIN. Ek het by 'n Martin-vriend van my twee registers uit twee ou familiebybels afgeneem asook 'n foto en ander inligting oor die Martin-Trekleier na die destydse Gazaland (Rhodesië/Mozambiek). Wie stel belang in die Martin-inligting of hoe kry ek dit geplaas op e-GGSA se familiebybel-blad? (Op Fotki sien ek nie 'n lêer vir familieregisters nie; is ek verkeerd?)
Groete,
CHARLIE
Boodskap 8a. PRINSLOO Posted by: "Ben Cilliers" [email protected] Mon Jan 7, 2008 7:11 am (PST)
Enige Lyslid wat kan help:
Christoffel Petrus Jochemus PRINSLOO (sv Anthonie Christoffel PRINSLOO en Maria Catharina SNYMAN) is waarskynlik gedurende 1840 in die Vrystaat gebore. Sy ouer broers en susters is in Somerset-Oos en in Geln Lynden, Oos Kaap, gedoop. Broers en susters, min of meer van sy eie ouderdom, is op Sandrivier en Valsrivier, OVS, gedoop. Die laaste twee kinders is op Cradock gedoop.
My vrae: Met wie was Christoffel Petrus Jochemus PRINSLOO getroud gewees, en wat was die name van sy kinders en kleinkinders gewees?
Van sy nasate het vermoedelik uiteindelik in die Vredefort omgewing tereg gekom.
Help Asseblief.
Ben Cilliers Mosselbaai
Boodskap 8b. Re: PRINSLOO Posted by: "Karin Serfontein" [email protected] Mon Jan 7, 2008 7:56 am (PST)
Hello Ben,
Ek weet nie of die van waarde kan wees nie?
My man Christoffel Petrus Jochemus is na sy oupa Prinsloo vernoem.
Elizabeth Johanna Christina Prinsloo * 22 November 1850 X met Carel Rudolph (d5) te Edenville. Elizabeth + op 7 Junie 1917. Carel is * op 14 Desember 1845 en + die 8ste Junie 1918.
Hulle seun (e7) Christoffel Petrus Jochemus Serfontein * 18 Augustus 1880 x die 5de Februarie 1905 met Johanna Magdalena Cilliers en hy + 29 November 1959. Johanna * 20 Maart 1886 + die 17de Junie 1959.
Ek sou graag meer wou weet van Elizabeth Johanna Christina Prinsloo se voorsate asook die van Johanna Magdalena Cilliers. Ek het nie veel meer as wat ek genoem het oor hulle nie.
Indien jy belangstel in enige van die bogenoemde, ek het 'n paar fotos wat ek vir jou kan stuur asook van Elizabeth en Carel se grafte.
Geniet 'n baie lekker aand,
Groete,
Karin.
Boodskap 9a. Deurbraak meedeel Posted by: "dickydube" [email protected] dickydube Mon Jan 7, 2008 7:37 am (PST)
Beste Lys Lesers,
Vanoggend het ek vroeg 'n deurbraak met my man se Nieuwoudt voor/nasate gehad. Keith Nieuwoudt uit Uitenhage wie 'n kleinseun van Karel Johannes Nieuwoudt, seun van Johannes Jacobus Nieuwoudt plaas Stofkraal, Hanover en onbekende neef van my man het my vanoggend hier in Birmingham gebel!!!!!!
Soos ek vroeer vir David gese het - dis seker die grootste Kersfees en Nuwe Jaars geskenk wat ek in 'n langtyd sommer so op eendag gekry het.
Vriendelike groete, Cathy Nieuwoudt Birmingham V.S.A.
Boodskap 9b. Re: Deurbraak meedeel Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Mon Jan 7, 2008 8:49 am (PST)
Hallo Cathy,
Ken daardie gevoel. Het dit beleef toe ek my Oupagroot se naam in die brief by die TAB gelees het nadat ek jare na hom gesoek het. Moes myself dwing om nie in daardie leeskamer op en af te spring en kliphard te skree 'YES-YES ek het hom'.
Groetnis Annelie.
Boodskap 9c. Re: Deurbraak meedeel Posted by: "Karin Serfontein" [email protected] Mon Jan 7, 2008 8:56 am (PST)
Hi Annelie en Cathy,
Ek is so bly vir julle, ek hoop en bid nog vir my groot deurbraak.
Groetnis,
Karin.
9d. Re: Deurbraak meedeel Posted by: "Cathy" [email protected] dickydube Mon Jan 7, 2008 10:08 am (PST)
Hi Annelie en Karen,
Baie dankie dat julle sommer so saam met my kon jubbel - ek was hier in my kombuis besig toe die foon gelui het - en daarna het ek seker so 'n zulu tipe dans uitgevoer - selfs my hond het sy kop opgetel en na my gekyk
Groete, Cathy
Boodskap 10. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 05 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Mon Jan 7, 2008 8:30 am (PST)
Sterfgevalle COETZEE, Mattheus Dirk. Tragies +Woensdag 02 Jan 2008. Eggenote, seuntjie, ouers en suster. Begrafnisdiens Maandag 07 Jan 2008 14:30 NG Kerk Retiefgemeente, Despatch. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 05/01/2008) Bossies: 084 792 0442 / 041 991 1471
DILLON, Doris. +Saterdag 29 Des 2007. Kinders, kleinkinders, agterkleinkinders, suster. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 05/01/2008)
In Memoriam MULLER, Michael Martin. +06/01/2003. Vrou, kinders, kleinkinders, skoondogters, skoonseuns. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 05/01/2008)
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 11. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 07 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Mon Jan 7, 2008 8:30 am (PST)
In Memoriam VAN RENSBURG, Adrian. Oorlede 07 Januarie 1997. Eggenote Henna. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 07/01/2008)
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 12. Pienaar en Pieters Posted by: "Alta Roux" [email protected] genealogiefreak Mon Jan 7, 2008 9:14 am (PST)
Lysteraars
Sal iemand met 'n Pienaar-boek asseblief iets vir my naslaan? Ek het 'n Johanna Catharina Pieters *9.12.1882 x 5.6.1906 Lindley Matthys Petrus Pienaar *ca 1880. Drie kinders wat ek kon opspoor: Margaretha Maria, Salomo Hendrik en Jacomina Cornelia Hendrina. (In Lindley en Paul Roux gedoop.) Enige verdere inligting sal welkom wees: sy ouers, datums, verdere kinders.
BVD Alta van Kinross
Boodskap 13a. BRIEL - ERASMUS en DNA analises Posted by: "Ina Penberthy" [email protected] inapenberthy Mon Jan 7, 2008 9:41 am (PST)
Beste SAGenealogie vriende,
Ek het 'n hele ruk gelede my mitochondriese DNA laat analiseer, en onlangs toe uiteindelik kontak gemaak met iemand anders wie se mtDNA merkers ooreenstem met myne - dis nou te sê iemand wat nie my Ma, suster of niggie is nie. Iewers in die verre verlede moes ons dus 'n moederlike voorouer gedeel het.
My eie voormoeder was, sover ek kon vasstel, vanaf Indië afkomstig. Nou probeer ons die moederlyn van hierdie genetiese pasmaat van my uitwerk om te sien of ons iewers in die laaste 400 jaar 'n gemeenskaplike voormoeder deel, en indien nie, of haar voormoeder dan ook vanaf Indië afkomstig is.
Dis nou waar ek hulp nodig het asseblief. Haar ouma was Johanna Adriana Catharina ERASMUS, gebore 1914, x van Aswegen, haar oumagrootjie Elizabeth/Elizabetha BRIEL, gebore 1887, x ERASMUS.
En net daar by die BRIEL oumagrootjie hak dinge vas; kan enigiemand dalk help met die oumagrootjie se ouers?
Groete uit 'n nat Seattle, Ina Penberthy
Boodskap 13b. Re: BRIEL - ERASMUS en DNA analises Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Mon Jan 7, 2008 10:24 am (PST) Hallo Ina,
Het julle al die SK onder oë gehad ???
TAB MHG 56764 ERASMUS, THEUNIS 1923 s/s ELIZABETHA ERASMUS (BORN BRIEL).
Dalk gee die kinders se name, as daar is, `n leidraad.
Groetnis Annelie.
Boodskap 14. Lyswyshede 10 -Laaste Posted by: "Simon du Plooy" [email protected] sjdp1951 Mon Jan 7, 2008 9:54 am (PST)
20 Feb 07 Hy spog daarmee dat hy sy familie kan terugneem tot die bybel lyk my tot Eva se ribbetjie Janet xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
21 Feb 07
Jy kon die raaisel oor die Bloedrivier bietjie ophelder maar ek wonder nog oor Eva se ribbetjie. :-)))) Annelie xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
19 Feb 07
Ai Dennis - jy is die ligpuntjie in my papnat dag!!! Bitter baie dankie!
Aneen. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
14 Feb 07
Ja, hulle sê mos as jy nie van verrassings hou nie moet jy nie met genealogie deurmekaar raak nie. Paul xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
9 Feb 07
Hou aan met die harde werk . Eendag gaan iemand baie dankbaar wees vir dit wat jy gedoen het….. xxxxxxxx
En ja, as mens lank genoeg aanhou ontdek mens familie opdie lys, het 'n kleinniggie so ontdek, (Hallo Mariana ;-) ) ons oumas was sussies, …… xxxxxxxx
Gelukkig is die meeste van die genealoë vriendelike en hulpvaardige mense en help graag. (Soms is daar uitsonderings.)…. xxxxxxxx
Teen die tyd dat die meeste mense wil navorsing oor hulle families doen is diegene met al die kennis en stories al oorlede……
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Mens moet nie dink jy en jou storie is onbelangrik nie. Skryf dit neer! (oeps, amper klaar gewees, belowe nou is ek klaar)
Hetta. xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Boodskap 15. (no subject) Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] jan_cilliers Mon Jan 7, 2008 11:20 am (PST)
Naandsê, Lyslede,
So van deurbrake gepraat, ek het verlede week hier in die Kaapse Argief na vier jaar se gesoek my oumagrootjie Heyns opgespoor en ook waar sy begrawe lê op 'n plaas by Koegas naby Marydale, wat aan haar seun Nicolaas Albertus Heyns, behoort het.
Hy het in 'n stadium glo nie minder nie as 13 plase besit. Gaan volgende week terug Bronkhorstspruit toe en gaan by die plaas, Witberg, langes vir foto's. Wil gaan kyk of Oupagrootjie Christiaan Johannes Cilliers nie ook dalk daar begrawe lê nie.
Ek het sedert Oktober verskeie kere die argief en ook Gisa gefynkam en groot vordering gemaak.
Maar ai, wat ek die afgelope jaar uitgevind het, is dat dit baie makliker is om familie- inligting by die dooies as by die lewendigs te kry!
Groetnis en Seën!
Jan Cilliers Bronkhorstspruit 013 932 3020 083046304051 Navorsing: Cilliers, Mulder, Van der Westhuizen, Heyns
Boodskap 16. (Koerant) Beeld 07 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Mon Jan 7, 2008 11:42 am (PST)
DELPORT; Lourens Petrus, in lewe van Pretoria. Roudiens: NG Kerk, Magalieskruin, 08/01/2008, 14:00. Verassing. (Beeld - 07/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
EWING; Peter John + 22/12/2007, in lewe van Pretoria. Gedenkdiens: AVBOB Kapel, Pretoria-Wes, 08/01/2008, 14:30. Sal onthou word deur Mary, Tracey-Anne, Cuan, Patri-cia, Shane and Ingrid. (Beeld - 04, 07/01/2008)
NELL; Jan Jonathan (Jannie), in lewe van Boksburg, Gauteng provinsie. Begrafnisdiens: PPK Kerk, Boksburg-Noord, h v Trichardtweg en Krynauwstraat, 08/01/2008, 11:010 # Boksburg Sub Streeklike Begraafplaas. (Beeld - 07/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Boksburg, 011-917-5041.
VERMAAK; Xania. Pieter CLOETE kontak asb vir Marian by 084-538-8464 oor aanneming van jou dogter Xanie. (Beeld - 07/01/2008)
WATSON; Brain Charles, in lewe van Pretoria. Roudiens: NG Kerk, Tygerpoort, Henrylaan 51, Shere, Pretoria, 09/01/2008, 12:00. Teraardbestelling Privaat. (Beeld - 07/01/2008) Grobbelaars & Church Street Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria, 012-348-5556.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 17. HULP MET BADENHORST ASB Posted by: "Verna Fourie" [email protected] verna.fourie Mon Jan 7, 2008 11:43 am (PST)
Naand vriende,
Is daar dalk iemand wat my kan help met 'n BADENHORST gesin asb. Wat ek het is die volgende:
Dirk Petrus Stephanus x Louise Catherine ???
Hul kinders : Herman Johannes * Pretoria 16.10.1913 + Sasolburg 22.09.1980 Joan * 1919 + 29.06.1942 Hendrik Johannes Waldeck ????? Dirk Petrus Stephanus ????? Dina Maria Susanna ?????
Enige hulp sal waardeer word. Baie dankie.
Groete Verna Fourie Montana Park Pretoria [email protected] 082 462 1411
Boodskap 18. van Rensburg /Bouwer Posted by: "BD Leach" [email protected] bdleach19490515 Mon Jan 7, 2008 1:55 pm (PST)
Beste lede - veral van Rensburg kenners,
Ek soek hulp met die volgende probleem. Op bl. 328 van SAG 9 (onder die van Rensburgs) kry ek die volgende:-
b1c5d7e2f6 - Wynand Wilhelmus JANSE VAN RENSBURG *24-3-1833 trou op 18-12- 1858 met Susara Elisabeth BOUWER* 30-3-1811 (sy is d.v Barend Daniel BOUWER en Maria Catharina POTGIETER).
Ek het egter volgens my rekords 'n Susanna Elisabeth BOUWER* 30-3-1811 (d.v. Barend Daniel BOUWER en Maria Catharina POTGIETER) - maar sy is getroud met ene Jacobus Albertus Lourens BIERMAN *c.1810 (geen sterfdatum en kinders bekend).
Na 'n bietjie kopkrap besluit ek toe dat haar huwelik met BIERMAN seker haar eerste was en die met JANSE VAN RENSBURG haar tweede - MAAR ! - die feit dat sy 22jr ouer as VAN RENSBURG was is seker nie die ergste nie, maar SAG dui aan dat hulle 5 kinders gehad het vanaf 1859 tot 1878 ( vanaf haar 48ste tot 67 ste jaar). Dis bietjie dik vir 'n daalder.Die benoeming van die kinders was streng volgens tradisie:- 1ste seun Daniel Theodorus*1859 vernoem na Wynand Wilhelmus se pa ; 2de seun Barend Daniel*1861 venoem na die ander oupa. Dis vir my duidelik dat hier 'n ander Barend Daniel Bouwer ter sprake moet wees - wat ek nie kan opspoor nie.
Kan iemand dalk lig hierop werp.
groete, barend leach
Boodskap 19. David DU PLOOY, *12 Febr 1877, Potchefstroom. Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Mon Jan 7, 2008 2:34 pm (PST)
Ek en Jan Greeff is op die spoor van David du Plooy.
Ek probeer om net vier geslagte van sy kwartierstaat te voltooi. Dit is dus 15 mense. (Die volgende geslag sal 'n bonus wees.) Kyk asb vir my in jou rekords vir:
David DU PLOOY, *12 Febr 1877, Potchefstroom, Transvaal, South Africa. Hy trou met Maggie SCHOEMAN, *1891, + 1919, dv Abel Albertus SCHOEMAN *17 Apr 1852 +10 Jan 1930 en Magdalena Maria Margaretha (Lenie) GREEFF, *4 Jan 1859, +1928.
David se ouers was: Albertus Stephanus DU PLOOY, *1833, +1891 en Petronella Jacoba Willimiena MOCKE *1845, + 1904. Ek is op soek na hulle twee se ouers en grootouers asseblief.
Ek is ook op soek na sy broerskinders, om by hulle 'n foto van hom te kry.
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Boodskap 20a. Re: TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg Posted by: "Willeen Olivier" [email protected] willempie5 Mon Jan 7, 2008 3:06 pm (PST)
Andre,
Malan was verantwoordelik vir 'n hele paar komando's. Wat ek nie kan uitmaak nie, is of almal so stuk-stuk afgesplit het van die oorspronklike TVK, en of hulle nie TVK genoem is nie. Net na die dood van Theron sê hy dat Theron se neef die verhouding tussen die twee groepe op 'n goeie voet geplaas het, en dat al twee bekend gestaan het as die TVK - wat uiteindleik van hierdie tweede groep geword het, weet ek nie - hulle moes ook nog iewers in die Noord-Kaap aanhou veg het? Ek kry die gevoel, alhoewel dit nie genoem word nie, dat dit dalk Manie Maritz se komando kon wees.
Na Malan as generaal aangestel is, het hy komandante aangewys, maar met Danie Theron se dood is die komandant deur die burgers verkies - die dat daar 'n skeuring was. Lyk my dit het maar gebeur soos wat dit die omstandighede gepas het. Fouché het ook volgens Malan se boek vir van Rensburg aangestel. Fouché was al lankal komandant - in Februarie 1901 het hy, Malan (wat toe nog komandant was) en Scheepers in dieselfde omgewing om Aberdeen rondgetrek.
OP 27 Mei het die TVK 'n groot groep Engelse in 'n hinderlaag gelei, maar net met die begin van die aanval, daag 'n nog groter groep Engelse op en keer die Boere as't ware tussen twee vure vas. Malan is baie ernstig gewond, soveel so dat die TVK nie gedink het hy sou oorleef nie, en hom agtergelaat het op die naaste plaas. 'n Koeël is skrams by sy hart verby, en moes blykbaar volgens die dokter sy hart getref het. Dis toe dat Fouché aangestel is as waarnemende generaal - deur wie weet ek nie, Smuts was in die omgewing vroeër in daardie jaar, en het 'n paar keer met Malan vergader (as jy dit so kan noem :-)), maar op daardie stadium het hy al reeds 'n brief via die Engelse gestuur om Malan te vra om onder 'n wit vlag na die vredesonderhandelinge te kom. Daar was bietjie van 'n ongelikkigheid hieroor, want Smuts het vroeër belowe dat hy sy eie mense met boodskappe sou stuur, omdat twee boereleiers al met so slap riem van die Engelse gevang is.
Iewers in die boek is daar net so skramse verwysing daarna dat dioe TVK se laaste geveg na vredesluiting was, met die byvoeging dat hulle nog nie van die vredesluiting gehoor het nie. As Smuts net deur die Engelse kom kommunikeer, is dit ook nie snaaks nie, want die TVK het juis nie regtig met die Engelse gepraat tot hulle hulle gevange geneem het nie! Ek dink nie dis die rede vir Smuts se houding nie. Hy en van Rensburg moes mekaar ook ten minste ontmoet het toe Smuts in die omgewing was, so dis vir my ook bietjie vreemd. Jy moet ook onthou dat behalwe vir die oorspronklike 25 wat oor die Oranjerivier Noord-Kaap binnegeval het, was die hele TVK, en baie groot gedeeltes van die ander komando's, almal Kapenaars. Malan self is op of naby Stellenboschvlei gebore, wat klink of dit naby Aberdeen kan wees. van Heerden, wat gedruk het om die aanval op Aberdeen te doen, en toe daar gesneuwel het, kom van Aberdeen af. As van Rensburg van Cradock af kom, was hy 'n rebel, tensy hy soos Malan voor die tyd ZAR of Vrystaat burgerskap gekry het. Daarvoor het die Engelse meer as een Afrikaner geskiet na die oorlog, nie regtig 'n verskoning nodig gehad nie.
Ek onthou die geval van die kleurling, maar kry dit nie nou so vinnig nie. Die komandos was maar 'n bietjie hatig op die kleurlinge, want hulle het by uitstek baie van die nuus oor die komandos aan die Engelse oorgedra. Wat 'n mens natuurlik kan verstaan. Die spesifieke kleurling is gevang na hy iets gedoen het wat die komando gedink het die doodstraf regverdig. Ek kan nie dink aan watter ander gevalle van Rensburg vir moord aangekla kon word nie.
In Julie 1901, net voor Malan, 6 krygers van die TVK en 5 van SchScheepers se komando Vrystaat toe vertrek, noem hy 3 komandante - hy van die TVK, Scheepers, en Manie Maritz (op die vooraand van hierdie stuur Malan veldk Johannes Rudolph na Manie Maritz se komando toe). Daar moes ten minste nog een komando gewees het, waarskynlik meer. Dit klink ook of Smuts op daardie stadium, of kort daarna, met 'n komando in die Noord-Kaap aangekom het. So ruk later praat hy ook van komdt Kritzinger, wat deur die Vrystaatse regering tot assistent-hoofkomandant vir Kaapland benoem is. Klink vir my na 'n babelse verwarring ;-) - met die TVK wat deur die ZAR op die been gebring is, die Vrystaters en Smuts wat gesamentlik deur albei regerings afgevaardig is om Noord-Kaap binne te val. En almal opereer so op eie houdtjie. Met die terugkoms uit die Vrystaat praat hy van komdt Lategan, asook komdt Pypers, wat oorgeneem het toe Scheepers ter dood veroordeel is.
Veldk vd Merwe het in Malan se plek waargeneem terwyl hy weg is, maar die is ook intussen dood, en veldk Hennie van Rensburg het nou tydelik bevel oorgeneem oor die TVK. Net voor Malan weer sy komando raakloop, praat hy van 'n ontmoeting met komdte Maritz en Jaap van Deventer. Hulle beplan 'n aanval op Tontelboskolk, en hier sê Malan "Die bevel is aan my opgedra, terwyl komdt van Deventer in uit 'n westelike rigting en komdt Lategan uit 'n oostelike rigtign sou aanval." Hy sê nie deur wie die bevel aan hom opgedra is nie. Hy het egter baie kort tevore vir genl Jan Smuts net deuskant Calvinia raakgeloop. Net na die aanval op Tontelboskolk loop hy weer sy komando raak - dis moes of oor Kersfees, of baie naby daaraan wees. Hy vertel ook van 'n aanval net voor Kersfees waarby die komandos van komdte Theron, Pypers, Mritz, Lategan en van Deventer betrokke was. Nou moet jy asseblief nie vra of die dieselfde Theron was as wat na Danie se dood die TVK oorgeneem het, en as dit so is, hoe Malan aan die stuur van sake gekom het nie. My wilde raaiskoot is dat dit 'n derde Theron is - dalk kan die Theron kenners ons hier help? Smuts (en sy komado?) was nie naby genoeg om deel te neem nie, maar wel om die opdrag uit te stuur dat Malan bevel van die ander komandos moet oorneem.
Ek is nou net deur die hele tog na die Vrystaat en terug, en ek kry nerens 'n verwysing van Malan se aanstelling as generaal nie. Hy was egter by 'n gesamentlike vergadering van die twee regerings, met net die soort nuus wat hulle wou hoor, nl dat daar baie hulpbronne en ondersteuning in die Kaap is, die Boere moet net in groot getalle oortrek en die gebied beset, om sodoende lojale Kapenaars te ondersteun. Dalk nie presies so gesê nie - Malan het so netjies twee punte in goeie taal neergestip.
Na die einde van die Kersfees-aanval, begin Malan praat van sy komando's (mv) en dat regter Hugo komdt van die TVK is. Smuts lyk my wil hier die generaals ontplooi in verskillende gebiede - Malan noem die Noordweste, Suidelike distrikte, Middellande en Boland. So Malan was defnitief nie die enigste generaal daar nie, en op een of ander manier was dit duidelik dat Smuts die ander generaals aanvoer. Malan noem die komando's onder sy bevel as die TVK, met Hugo as komandant, en dan nog die van komdte Schalk, Pypers, Botha, Smith en van Reenen. Iewers na Februarie 1902 is Hugo dood. Na Hugo se dood beplan Malan 'n groot offensief in die Middellande - sy komando's is 900 sterk, waarvan 800 rebelle is. Hulle moet oor die spoor, met sy blokhuise om in die Middellande uit te kom, en Malan, met die TVK (150 man sterk), gaan oor, maar die ander verloor moed en trek in 'n heeltemaal teenoorgestelde rigting weg. Malan kry 'n lyfwag bymekaar om hulle te loop haal, en stel hier vir Rudolph aan as komandant in Hugo se plek. Hy kan egter nie, want die Engelse omsingel hulle, en hulle trek die middellande in, waar hulle komdt Fouché raakloop, met ongeveer 100 man. In een van die gevegte wat hierop volg, word hulle deur die Engelse omsingel en teen die spoorlyn by de Aar vasgedruk. Malan deel sy mense in klein groepies op en laat elkeen op 'n ander plek deur die Engelse kordon trek. van Rensburg kry bevel oor een van hierdie groepe. Hulle is almal veilig deur, sonder dat die Engelse iets agtergekom het. Op 'n ander geleentheid het Malan en van Rensburg alleen in 'n kloof beland, en met donker het hulle verdwaal. Die Engelse het daar opgedaag met wat hy noem 'n kollonne van 'n duisend Engelse, maar die het Malan op 'n ander plek verwag as waar hy was. Met die donker, die verassing en die Engelse se paniek, het hy 11 skote afgeskiet, wat die Engelse op loop laat sit het.
En bg is net voor Malan se laaste geveg - so ek het die storie van Van Rensburg en die kleurling gemis - dit was terwyl Malan in die Vrystaat was, so dis seker half buite verband op 'n ander genoem. Was moontlik toe hy waargeneem het as komdt in vd Merwe se plek. Na Malan se laaste geveg het Fouché Malan opgevolg, en die boek meld dat hulle 'enige dae' later al weer met die vyand slaags geraak het, en dat veldk H. van Rensburg tegelyk tot komandant van die TVK bevorder is. Die manier wat dit geskryf is, kan ek nie regtig agterkom of dit tegelyk met Fouché se aanstelling, of die vyand se aanval gebeur het nie. Sal maar moet onthou as ek die boek weer deurlees om die verwysings na van Rensburg vir jou te merk en aan te stuur :-).
Groete, Willeen En sterkte - want jy moet nou al hierdie lang relase van my bymekaarmaak en orden om sin te maak ;-).
Ek sit nou hier so by myself en dink - en dit kan die moeg wees wat praat, my brein maak toe na tien - daar was 'n paar keer onvergenoegdheid van Smuts se kant af teenoor Malan, lg noem dat hy dit een keer baie duidelik skriftelik gestel het dat hy nie beïndruk is nie, en Smuts is een van die enigste, indien nie die enigste generaal waarmee Malan te doen kry, waaroor hy nie 'n lang eulogie skryf nie. Niks negatief word eers geïnsinueer nie, maar daar word ook pertinent niks goed gesê nie - tensy ek dit ook gemis het. Dit kan dalk Smuts se houding teenoor van Rensburg verklaar, maar dis maar blote spekulasie.
Ek sien ek het ook nie die driefontein episode vir jou gekry nie :-( - kan nie eers onthou of dit daar is nie, dis ook terwyl Malan in die Vrystaat was. Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3049
Datum: Mon Jan 7, 2008
Daar is 8 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: BRIEL - ERASMUS en DNA analises From: Ina Penberthy
2. (no subject) From: [email protected]
3a. Re: HULP MET BADENHORST ASB From: Annelie Els
4a. Deurbraak deel. From: Annelie Els
5. KAB OPSOEK HULP ASB From: Ben du Plessis
6a. Blyvooruitsicht, Transvaal From: Johan Pottas
6b. Re: Blyvooruitsicht, Transvaal From: Drikus Theron
7. (Koerant) Beeld 08 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut Boodskap 1a. Re: BRIEL - ERASMUS en DNA analises Posted by: "Ina Penberthy" [email protected] inapenberthy Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:04 pm (PST)
Hallo Annelie,
Dankie, ek het die verwysing op NAAIRS gesien maar nog nie die sterfkennis self kon beskou nie. Ek het so heimlik gehoop dat een van die SAGenealoë alreeds die mense op hulle databasis het en kan help met die inligting. As dit nie so uitwerk nie sal ek een of ander tyd die sterfkennis in die hande moet kry.
Vriendelike groete, Ina
Boodskap 2. (no subject) Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:42 pm (PST)
Hallo Almal,
Du du Venage stamboom is vandag deur Pieter du Venage op die internet geplaas. Dit is 'n uitstekende, gedetaileerde stuk werk met interressante brondokumente. Dit is goed die moeite werd om te besigtig. Om te kyk, klik op die skakel: http://www.onsfamilie.info/duvenage.php
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Boodskap 3a. Re: HULP MET BADENHORST ASB Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Mon Jan 7, 2008 8:10 pm (PST)
Hi Verna,
Hierdie familie is in die BADENHORSTboek as een van daardie los-staande klomp wat nêrens inpas nie.
En dis al wat daar is !!
Dirk Petrus Stephanus x Louise Catherine NN b1 Herman Johannes * Pretoria 16.10.1913 † Sasolburg 22.9. 1980 x Johannesburg 30.3.1939 Pamela Edna BURTON * 11.11.1917 c1 Patrick Burton
Groetnis Annelie.
Boodskap 4a. Deurbraak deel. Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Mon Jan 7, 2008 8:43 pm (PST)
Hallo Jan,
Dankie dat jy jou deurbraak met ons gedeel het.
Dis vir my lekker om ook te lees as daar iemand is wat daardie - zulu-dans, met `n paar Afrikaners is plesierig se Volksspele passies, by - oomblik beleef !!
Jy slaan ook die spyker in die doodskis, so op sy kop.
Ek het ook self so met my gegrawe tussen my voorouers se geraamtes kon uitpluis hoekom daar drie variasies van die 'HEEVER-van' in drie van my voorgeslagte voorkom, VAN DEN, VAN DE, VAN DER,.
Lekker delf verder.
Groetnis Annelie.
Boodskap 5. KAB OPSOEK HULP ASB Posted by: "Ben du Plessis" [email protected] bjadup Mon Jan 7, 2008 10:03 pm (PST)
Beste lede
Kan enigiemand my asb. dalk help met KAB opsoeke van:
1. MOOC 6/9/4304,38464 GOUWS, JURIE HENDRIK ALBERTUS 2. MOOC 6/9/4433,41574 GOUWS, JURIE HENDRIK ALBERTUS CORNELIUS 3. MOOC 6/9/377,1804 GOUWS, MARTHINUS CORNELIUS
Ek benodig slegs sterfkennis inhoud, of gegewens oor kinders en ouers indien dokumente nie SK's bevat nie.
Byvoorbaat dank Ben du Plessis 0825751601
Boodskap 6a. Blyvooruitsicht, Transvaal Posted by: "Johan Pottas" [email protected] pottasjj Mon Jan 7, 2008 10:04 pm (PST)
Dag almal
Kan iemand my asseblief help met waar is Blyvooruitsicht, Transvaal. Dit lyk vir my uit die inligting wat ek ontvang het asof dit 'n kleinerige plekkie of andersins 'n gemeente kan wees.
Ek kon dit nie in my twee almanakke opspoor nie.
Groete
Johan J Pottas Rekensentrum UV Tel: +27-51-401-2767 werk Tel: +27-51-522-7329 huis Tel: +27-82-569-3727 sel Faks: +27-51-401-2765 werk Posbus 34559, Faunasig, 9325
Boodskap 6b. Re: Blyvooruitsicht, Transvaal Posted by: "Drikus Theron" [email protected] drikus.theron Mon Jan 7, 2008 10:15 pm (PST)
More Almal,
Dit is 'n klein dorpie wat tussen Carltonville en Potch le. Dit val onder Carltonville en bestaan meesstal uit spoorweghuise. Daar is basies 'n slaghuis, biblioteek, kaffee en 'n polisiestasie. Die ouens hier by my werk se die dorp is so klein jy kan nie eers deur dit ry nie en Blyvooruitsicht is eintlik 'n myn.
Groetnis, Drikus Theron
Boodskap 7. (Koerant) Beeld 08 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Mon Jan 7, 2008 11:24 pm (PST)
GEBHARD; Paula + 03/01/2008. Sal onthou word deur eggenoot van Ditch, moeder van Liezl, Inger en wyle Paulie. (Beeld - 08/01/2008) Collige & Co Begrafnisdienste, Johannesburg, 011-782-9240.
KOTZE; Danie, in lewe van Klopperpark, Germiston, Gauteng provinsie. Verassingsdiens: NG Kerk, Morewag, Patricklaan, Homestead, Germiston, 09/01/2008, 11:00. (Beeld - 08/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Germiston, 011-825-3667.
VERMAAK; Xania. Pieter CLOETE kontak asb vir Marian by 084-538-8464 oor aanneming van jou dogter Xanie. (Beeld - 07, 08/01/2008)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Datum: Tue Jan 8, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg From: sastamouers
1b. Re: TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg From: Ariel Rudolph
1c. Re: TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg From: Alta Griffiths
1d. Re: TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg From: Ariel Rudolph
1e. Re: TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg From: Alta Griffiths
2a. Re: Blyvooruitsicht, Transvaal From: Dirk Bloem
3a. Re: PRINSLOO From: paul.prinsloo
3b. Re: PRINSLOO From: paul.prinsloo
3c. Re: PRINSLOO From: paul.prinsloo
3d. Re: PRINSLOO From: Karin Serfontein
4a. Re: CALITZDORP LIDMAATREGISTER 1873 - 1914: Deel 1 From: pauldupl
5a. Re: Martin Familie From: paul.prinsloo
6. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 08 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
7a. Prinsloo From: Peet & Mari Mostert
8a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
8b. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
9a. Re: van Rensburg /Bouwer From: Janet Melville
10a. Re: Boeke gesoek From: Herman Labushagne
11a. Re: GOUWS From: Ben du Plessis
12a. Re: David DU PLOOY, *12 Febr 1877, Potchefstroom. From: Simon du Plooy
13. (Koerant) Beeld 09 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
14. [Koerant] The Mercury Maandag 7 Januarie 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
15. [Koerant] The Mercury Dinsdag 8 Januarie 2008. From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
16. [ Koerant] The Mercury Donderdag 3 Januarie 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
17a. Terug From: kerrieborrie Boodskap 1a. Re: TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg Posted by: "sastamouers" [email protected] sastamouers Tue Jan 8, 2008 2:17 am (PST)
Hallo Willeen,
Baie dankie dit jy soveel moeite gedoen het, om orals in die boek te kyk vir inligting wat sin vir ons kan maak. Dit is geen klein daad nie, ek was al op tyd deur mense uitgevra en dan moet ek so deur al die inligting swoeg en kan 'n ou nie altyd sin uit maak nie. Daar is meer feite wat help om alles uit te pluis.
Nogmaals baie dankie
Andre
Boodskap 1b. Re: TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg Posted by: "Ariel Rudolph" [email protected] arielrudolph Tue Jan 8, 2008 5:48 am (PST)
Jammer mense dat ek nou so laat hierdie vraag stel, maar....
Weet julle watter RUDOLPH hierdie was wat leierskap van die TVK oorgeneem het ?
Groete Ariel
Boodskap 1c. Re: TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg Posted by: "Alta Griffiths" [email protected] griffithsalta Tue Jan 8, 2008 6:28 am (PST)
Johannes Steyn RUDOLPH
Boodskap 1d. Re: TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg Posted by: "Ariel Rudolph" [email protected] arielrudolph Tue Jan 8, 2008 7:58 am (PST)
Alta,
Is dit die selfde JS RUDOLPH X Elsie Elizabeth Carolina Petronella NN ? Ek het hom nog nie gekoppel gekry of sy vrou se nooiensvan nie.
Groete -- Ariel Israel (Tans in die VSA alweer) Navorsing: Die hele RUDOLPH van http://rudolph-gen.com
Boodskap 1e. Re: TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg Posted by: "Alta Griffiths" [email protected] griffithsalta Tue Jan 8, 2008 9:37 pm (PST)
>>Is dit die selfde JS RUDOLPH X Elsie Elizabeth Carolina Petronella NN ? >>Ek het hom nog nie gekoppel gekry of sy vrou se nooiensvan nie.
Ja, dieselfde
Johannes Steyn RUDOLPH x Elsie Elizabeth Carolina Petronella KROG
Hy was vroeg wees. Groot gemaak deur 'n STEYN familie. Geen verdere inligting omtrent hulle.
Gedoop as volwassene in 1895.
Sy biologiese ouers Herman RUDOLPH x Marie HELBERT
Was slegs vir 'n maand of twee kommandant - toe gewond en agter gelaat. In sy latere lewe was hy 'n myner. Sterf eers in 1957.
Alta Griffiths Posbus 1998 DURBANVILLE 7551
Tel: 021 - 975 5491 Sel: 083 948 5207
Navorsing: Volle vanne:- Rudolph, Van der Sandt, Gloy, Cothill. Asook die Oliviers en Slabberts van Heidelberg, Tvl tot by 1930
Boodskap 2a. Re: Blyvooruitsicht, Transvaal Posted by: "Dirk Bloem" [email protected] dirkbloem Tue Jan 8, 2008 3:55 am (PST)
Johan
Dit is 'n kleinerige myndorp hier tussen Potchefstroom en Carltonville, so 40+ Km op die Carltonville pad uit. Jy moet mooi kyk of jy mis hom. Daar is egter gereeld spoedlokvalle. Die ouer deel is aan die linkerkant van die pad soos jy na Carltonville ry oor die spoor.
Groete
Dirk Bloem 083 644 6180
Boodskap 3a. Re: PRINSLOO Posted by: "paul.prinsloo" [email protected] paul.prinsloo Tue Jan 8, 2008 4:44 am (PST)
HI Karin.. ek dink ons praat van dieselfde persoon hier:
Christoffel Petrus Jochemus, of ook Christoffel Petrus Johannes, gelys in SAG vol 8, ref no b3c3d4e2f6, geb. 7 July 1815 Somerset East.
Hy is 3 keer getroud, nl met Elisabeth Johanna Christina Botha, Catharina Helena Oosthuizen, en met Anna Van der Merwe.
Kind g9 met sy eerste vrou was Elizabeth Johanna Christina, en die 1850 tydperk lyk reg, alhoewel dit nie in SAG vol 8 verskyn nie. Ek sal bly wees as ek jou inligting oor haar kan opneem in my data??
As jy verder terug wil he, se maar net. lekker bly Paul
Boodskap 3b. Re: PRINSLOO Posted by: "paul.prinsloo" [email protected] paul.prinsloo Tue Jan 8, 2008 4:55 am (PST)
PS skuus Ben.. bietjie slaperig hier in die namiddag..
Hierdie CPJ soos ek hieronder genoem het is wel die kind van Willem Jacobus en AM Snyman. Hy het 12 kinders gehad wat ek van weet(10 met eerste vrou). Ek kan almal vir jou stuur as jy wil, of link gee waar hulle gelys is. voorspoed
Boodskap 3c. Re: PRINSLOO Posted by: "paul.prinsloo" [email protected] paul.prinsloo Tue Jan 8, 2008 5:06 am (PST)
HI Ben
so vir interessantheid, ek dink AC se vrou was Maria Catharina Prinsloo, nie Snyman nie... sal vanaand in die boek gaan kyk hoekom ek daarby uitgekom het. Ek het ook geen inligting vir die CPJ wat jy noem nie, so as iemand kan help sal ek dit ook waardeer.
Paul
Boodskap 3d. Re: PRINSLOO Posted by: "Karin Serfontein" [email protected] Tue Jan 8, 2008 6:06 am (PST)
Hi Paul,
Dankie vir die inligting, ek het niks oor die Elizabeth wat met CR Serfontein getroud is se familie nie. Ek sal enige verdere inligting waardeer, duisend x dankies.
Jy kan met die grootste vrymoedigheid die inligting gebruik.
Sien uit om weer van jou te hoor,
Geniet 'n wonderlike dag,
Karin.
Boodskap 4a. Re: CALITZDORP LIDMAATREGISTER 1873 - 1914: Deel 1 Posted by: "pauldupl" [email protected] pauldupl Tue Jan 8, 2008 4:53 am (PST)
Ek stel ook belang asseblief.
Vriendelike groete
Paul du Plessis
Boodskap 5a. Re: Martin Familie Posted by: "paul.prinsloo" [email protected] paul.prinsloo Tue Jan 8, 2008 6:10 am (PST)
HI Charlie.. ek sal dalk bietjie meer wil weet. ek het 'n oom gehad, Luther Whitlock Martin, getroud met Gissie Christina Regina Boshoff. Ek sal graag wil weet of jy iets oor hom het. dankie Paul
Boodskap 6. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 08 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Tue Jan 8, 2008 6:24 am (PST)
Sterfgevalle GROENEWALD, Chris. +Vrydag 04 Jan 2008. Piet, kinders, kleinkinders. Roudiens Woensdag 09 Jan 2008 11:00 Avbob-kapel. Verassing privaat. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 08/01/2008) Alfred Jones AVBOB Port Elizabeth 041 484 2731
LOMBARD, Anthonie Christoffel (Chris) +Saterdag 05 Jan 2008 60 jaar. Kinders Theuns, Pieter, Natalie en Maryna, kleinseun Anton. Diens Woensdag 09 Jan 2008 11:00 NG Kerk Noord, Despatch. Despatch-begraafplaas. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 08/01/2008) Esmé Groenewald AVBOB Uitenhage 041 922 8066
SIEBERT, Petronella Katrina. +Saterdag 05 Jan 2008. Kinders, kleinkinders, agterkleinkinders. Verassingsdiens Donderdag 10 Jan 2008 10:30 Ou Apostoliese Kerk, Newtonpark-gemeente. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 08/01/2008) Jan Ackerman Algoa Begrafnisdienste 041 484 5748
WINKWORTH, Neville. +Vrydag 04 Jan 2008. Barbie, kinders. Roudiens Dinsdag 08 Jan 2008 1:00 PE-Noord NG Kerk. Verassing privaat. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 08/01/2008) Alfred Jones AVBOB Port Elizabeth 041 484 2731
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 7a. Prinsloo Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Tue Jan 8, 2008 8:25 am (PST)
Ben en Karin,
Volgens die SERFONTEINS SAGeslagregister vol 11 – p 251 is daar twee Elisabeth J.C. PRINSLOO’s wat met SERFONTEINS getroud is.
Christoffel Petrus Jochemus se dogter (g9) en sy kleindogter (h1)
Op NAAIRS is daar ‘n boedel vir ‘n Christoffel Petrus Jochemus x Susara Susanna VAN DER MERWE en
Christoffel Petrus x Wilhelmina Adriana VILJOEN d4 Willem (Groot Willem) ~ Tulbagh 25.12.1749 burger van Swellendam - betrokke by die Slagtersnek rebellie x Tulbagh 13.4.1776 Martha Louisa ERASMUS ~ 1.5.1757(d.v. Pieter Erasmus en Johanna Elizabeth Bockelenberg) (Grootouers van Georg Diederik Petrus Prinsloo, President van Upingtonia tydens die Dorslandtrek) ook skoonouers van “Hendrik Kasteel” tereggestelde rebel e2 Willem Jacobus (Klein Willem) Slagtersnek Rebel ~ Tulbagh, 14.11.1777 burger v Graaff-Reinet x Kaapstad 15.3.1801 Anna Margaretha SNYMAN d.v. Christoffel Snyman en Aletta Magdalena van Rensburg f6 Christoffel Petrus Jochemus * Somerset-Oos 7.7.1815 ~ George 5.11.1815 Bo- Boesmansrivier, Somerset; neem deel aan Groot Trek, + 31.7.1903 x Somerset-Oos 4.8.1833 Elisabeth Johanna Christina BOTHA * Bruintjeshoogte, Somerset-Oos c 1817 + wyk Valsrivier, Kroonstad 30.1.1860 (43) d.v. Theunis Louis Botha en Elisabeth Johanna Erasmus xx Anna Catharina Dorothea VAN DER MERWE * 5.9.1823 + Renosterrivier, Kroonstad 22.5.1868 (43) wew van Frederick Wessel Sevenster; d.v. Willem Hendrik vd Merwe en Catharina Maria Pietersen xxx Catharina Helena OOSTHUIZEN g1 Willem Jacobus *7.7.1834 ~ Glen Lynden 7.8.1834 + DIST Kroonstad 11.9.1912 x Sophia Johanna Gertruida BOTHA * Somerset-Oos c 1841 + dist Kroonstad 12.6.1911 d.v. Theunis Louis Botha en Sophia Jacoba Geertruida Prinsloo h1 Elizabeth Johanna Christina * 14.12.1860 + 5.9.1952 x Bethlehem, Theodorus Ernst SERFONTEIN * 18.9.1851 ~ Bloemfontein 7.8.1853 boer Snymanshoek dist Bethlehem + 19.12.1937 g5 Christoffel Petrus Jochemus *12.10.1841 ~ Voort 31.3.1842 x Anna Elisabeth SEVENSTER g9 Elizabeth Johanna Christina * 22.11.1850 + 7.6.1917 x Edenvale, Carel Rudolph SERFONTEIN *14.12.1845 + c 1917
DEPOT TAB SOURCE MHG TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 0 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 51819 PART 1 DESCRIPTION PRINSLOO, SUSARA SUSANNA. (BORN VAN DER MERWE). STARTING 19230000 ENDING 19230000 REMARKS SURVIVING SPOUSE CHRISTOFFEL PETRUS JOCHEMUS PRINSLOO.
DEPOT TAB SOURCE MHG TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 0 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 60460 PART 1 DESCRIPTION PRINSLOO, WILHELMINA ADRIANA. (BORN VILJOEN). STARTING 19260000 ENDING 19260000 REMARKS PREDECEASED SPOUSE CHRISTOFFEL PETRUS PRINSLOO.
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 8a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Tue Jan 8, 2008 8:32 am (PST)
Met dank aan
Die Argief van die Ned Hervormde Kerk. (Nandor Sarkady)
Rosa Swanepoel vir die neem van die digitale foto’s
Willemine J van Dreven-Lieuwes met transkripsie hulp
DOOPBOEK VAN DE HERVORMDE GEMEENTE
VAN ZOUTPANSBERG
VAN 1850 TOT ....
315 Maria Sofya Elisabet 7 Julÿ 1860
Oud: Willem Jac Hendrik POTGIETER
Johanna Willemina LAGRANGE
Get: Johannes Zacharias GROBBLER
Maria Sofya Elisabet LAGRANGE
Johannes Petrus LAGRANGE
Catarina Elisabetta JACOBS
316 Catarina Maria Francina Cecilia geb 21 Junÿ 1860
Oud: Jac./Jan Albert JACOBS
Susanna Margarita HERBST
Get: Filippus Stefanus JACOBS
Johanna Aletta JACOBS g. COETZER
P 50 1861
317 Jan Hendrik geb 12 Junÿ 1860
Oud: Jan Hendrik JACOBS
Cornelia Johanna Susanna ERASMUS
Get: Lourens Martinus BRONKHORST
Anna Susanna GROBBLER
Miechiel Koenraad ERASMUS
Pieternella Dorothea DORFELING
318 Anna Geertruida geb 19 Aug 1860
Oud: Paul Jacobus Frederik ROOS
Maria Elisabet JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Get: Hendrik Christoffel JANSE V RENSBURG
Maria Dorothea Emmerencie KOTSEE
Hendr. Christoffel JANSE V RENSBURG
319 Douwe Gerbrand geb 30 December 1860
Oud: Johannes Zacharias GROBBLER
Maria Sofya Elisabet LEGRANGE
Get: Johannes Petrus LEGRANGE
Catarina Elisab. JACOBS
Douwe Gerbrand GROBBLER
Neeltje Christina GROBBLER g. ELOF
320 Petrus Johannes geb 25 Oct 1860
Oud: Jan Willem JACOBS
Elisabetta Susanna JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Get: Paul Jacobus Frederik ROOS
Maria Elisab. ROOS geb J VAN RENSBURG
321 Martha L...... sta Catarina Carolina geb 7 Julÿ 1860
Oud: Gerardus Jacobus ROETS – Jan Adr. BOTHA
Marta Catarina DE WIT
Get: Hendr. Gerardus Karel DE WIT
Margarita STEÿN
Jan Adriaan BOTHA
Carolina Maria BOTHA geb MARNIETS ?
Jacobus Albertus Christoffel DE WIT
Marta Catarina ROETS
322 Johannes Hermanus gen 31 Oct 1860
Oud: Peter GROBBLER
Petr. Johanna BOTHA
Get: Niklaas Johannes GROBBLER
Willemina Pieternella DU PREEZ
Johannes Frederik BOTHA
Maria Aletta HATTING
323 Maria Magdalena geb 14 Maart 1861
Oud: Gerrit Petrus VAN WÿK
Anna Maria Adriana BREED
Get: Willem Martinus BREED
Maria Magdalena VISAGE
Johannes Arnoldus BREED
Hendrina Cecilia VENTER
324 Marta Aletta Magdalena geb 20 January 1861
Oud: Jacobus Johannes POTGIETER
Marta Aletta Magdalena SNÿMAN
Get: Cornelia SNÿMAN geb EMMENIS
Jan Johannes POTGIETER
Elisabet Cornelia POTGIETER geb VAN DER MERWE
P 51 1861
325 Susara Frederika geb 2 Feb 1861
Oud: Johan Jacobus Andries VERCEUIL
Helena Catharina BOTHA
Get: Paul Stefanus BOTHA
Johanna Cornelia VERCEUIL
Jacobus Johannes POTGIETER
Martha Aletta Magdal. POTGIETER geb SNÿMAN
326 Catarina Magdalena Johanna geb 5 Nov 1860
Oud: Jan Georg DUVENAGE
Anna Jacomina BOTHA
Get: Michiel Frederik DUVINAGE
Jan Adriaan BOTHA
Susanna Carolina Maria MARNITZ
Teunis Clasjie DUVINAGE
Johanna Willemina Margarita SMIT
Barend Christoffel DUVENAGE
Elsje Magdalena DUVINAGE
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 8b. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Tue Jan 8, 2008 9:36 am (PST)
327 Heila Magdalena geb 4 Mei 1860
Oud: Hendrik Frederik GROBBLER – Getuigen : Pieter GROBBLER
Elisabetta Susanna VORSTER
Get: Jan Christoffel RAATHS
Elsje GROBBLER
Stefanus Erasmus VORSTER
328 Georg Christoffel geb 28 Nov 1859
Oud: Jan Dirk GROBBLER – Getuigen : Pieter GROBBLER
Elisabetta Maria WOLHUTER
Get: Georg Christoffel WOLHUTER
Johanna Catarina VAN STADEN
Jan Christoffel ROETS
Elsje GROBBLER
329 Francois Johannes geb 13 Januarÿ 1856
Oud: Jacobus Arnoldus Francois LOTTERING
De moeder is overleden
Anna Catarina Elisabetta Susanna SWANEPOEL
Get: Gertina Petronella ALBACINI. geb JANSE VAN RENSBURG (doopmoeder)
Hendrik Christoffel JANSE VAN RENSBURG (doopvader)
330 Martha Magdalena geb 9 Julÿ 1959
Oud: Juan ALBACINI (Roomsch)
Gertina Petronella JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Get: Paul Jacobus Frederik ROOS (doopvader)
Maria Elisabet ROOS geb RENSBURG
331 Stefanus geb 17 Dec 1857
Oud: Jacobus Arnoldus Francois LOTTERING
Moeder overleden
Anna Catarina Elisabetta SWANEPOEL
Get: Cornelis Abraham Willem VAN WÿK (doopvader)
Susanna Margarita NORTMAN
332 Aletta Antoinetta geb 27 January 1861
Oud: Stefanus Johannes JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Elisabetta Helena BOTHA
Get: Jacob DE KLERK
Marta Sofya JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Niklaas Martinus JANSE VAN RENSBURG
P 52 1861
333 Paul Stefanus geb 22 Dec 1860
Oud: Petrus Cornelis Jacobus WEEBER
Susanna Frederika BOTHA
Get: Christoffel Lodewikus BOTHA
Anna Jacomina BOTHA
Samuel Hendrik VERCEUIL
William KINNEAR – snr
GEDOOPT TEN HUISE VAN ANDRIES DUVINAGE OP DE PLAATS GENAAMD ROODE WALLEN DEN 22 MEI 1861
334 Filippus Rudolf geb 3 Sept 1860
Oud: Filippus Rudolf PRINSLOO - niet betaald
Johanna Margaretha DE BEER
Get: Andries Wilhelmus Arnoldus DUVINAGE
Anna Dorothea SMIT
Hendrik Jacobus VENTER
Louisa ..... FOURIE
335 Gerrit Johannes geb 7 Mei 1861
Oud: Hendrik Johannes DUVINAGE (afwesig) - niet betaald
Isabella Johanna DUVINAGE
Get: Gerrit Johannes DUVINAGE
Susanna Zacharya VAN WÿK
Berend Christoffel DUVINAGE
Elsje Magdalena DUVINAGE
336 Francois Alewÿn geb 18 Mei 1861
Oud: David Johannes KRIEGER
Petronella Christina BOTHA
Get: Gerrit Johannes STRÿDOM
Anna Margaretha Catarina WILLEMSE
Hercules Philippus Rudolf BOTHA
Susanna Catarina SMIT
P 53
GEDOOPT OP DEN PLAATS RHENOSTERPOORT TEN HUISE VAN DEN BROEDER OUDERLING P VENTER OP DEN 27 APRIL 1862 DOOR DEN LERAAR G.I.V SMITS VAN RUSTENBURG
337 Antonÿ Cotono geb 29 Nov 1859
Ouders: Laurens Mariaun NENÿS (NUNES)
Jacoba Magdalena MARNITZ
Getuig; Frederik Hendrik GEÿSER (doopvader)
Sara Johanna Susanna BRONKHORST
Gerrit Johannes DUVENAGE
Susanna Zacharya VAN WÿK
Jan Adriaan BOTHA
Susanna Maria Carolina MARNITZ
338 Johanna Christina geb 8 Julÿ 1861
Ouders: Jacob VAN DER WESTHUISEN
Hester Magdalena DE BEER
Getuig : Dina Gertruida VORIE ? (Doopmoeder)
Johannes Alewyn VAN DER LINDE
Maria Magdalena ESTERHUYSE
339 Johannes Jacobus geb 14 Nov 1861
Ouders: Johannes Jacobus MEINHART
Alida Aletta Martha Susanna DUPLOOÿ
Getuig; Philip Karel SMIT
Carolina Wilhelmina MINNAAR
Theodorus Hermanus Gerardus VORIE
Johanna Magdalena RAATS/ROETS
340 Petrus Wilhelmus geb 19 Januarÿ 1861
Ouders: Gerardus Martinus OOSTHUIZEN
Christina Martina VAN STADEN
Getuig: Petrus Wilhelmus GEÿSER
Aletta Sophia VENTER
Alweyn Petrus BOTHA
Emmerencia Adriana GEÿSER
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 9a. Re: van Rensburg /Bouwer Posted by: "Janet Melville" [email protected] jmelvillexsinetcoza Tue Jan 8, 2008 9:23 am (PST)
Barend
Hoekom het jy my nie gevra nie, ek kan jou help maar sal van die lys af laat weet. Jy weet moes ek help met die Bouwers ens.
En as jy SAG kwoteer kry ek n pyn waar ek nie n pyn wil he nie, die persoon wat die inligting intik is myns insiens net 'n data capturer/ tikster wat soos 'n masjien werk en data invoer sonder die vaagste benul van wat sy of hy doen wat die oog sien tik die vingers. Waar kan 'n antie van 67 kinders he. 'n miracle! as dit 'n oompie was dan moontlik of dit was die buurman!
Vir Susanna Elizabeth Bouwer en Bierman het ek 'n kind geb en gedoop 1838 in Glen Lynden
Die persoon wat SAG nagaan lyk my soek net tikfoute ek het vir 'n drukker ge moonlight vir n paar jaar (toe ek en my man in 'n vreslike finansiele krisis was) en dit staan nie in enige een se spoor om editing te doen nie.
Janet Posbus 15215 Emerald Hill PE 6011 083 642 7744 H/Faks: 041 3792077 Researching: van der Merwe, Melville, Rudman, William Reynolds, Van Lingen and East Cape families
Boodskap 10a. Re: Boeke gesoek Posted by: "Herman Labushagne" [email protected] hlabuschagne Tue Jan 8, 2008 9:30 am (PST)
Hallo Anne,
Ek ken nie boek no. 1 nie. Malan se boek het ek wel, maar ek het onlangs verhuis en ek het duisende boeke in bokse wat ek seker eers oor 'n paar maande sal uitpak. As niemand anders jou egter kan help nie, laat weet my dat ek kyk wat ek kan doen as ek vir jou iets moet probeer opsoek.
Groete,
Herman Labuschagne
Boodskap 11a. Re: GOUWS Posted by: "Ben du Plessis" [email protected] bjadup Tue Jan 8, 2008 11:22 am (PST)
Erik
Dalk mostert na die maal, volgens my inligting is Cornelia Hendrina Gouws, vrou van CNJ Gouws, b3c4d5e4f5, dogter van Marthinus Gouws ~1794 en Cornelia Hendrina van Eeden,b4c7d5e5, beide waarvan die voorouers in SAG 4 is, wat ek het as jy belangstel.
Ek stoei ook met hierdie gesin op soek na my grootouma Cornelia Petronella Gouws *1868-12-26 se herkoms. Het jy dalk inligting oor wie die kinders van CNJ *1822 se oudste broer Marthinus Cornelis *1817-06-19 en jonger broer Jurie Hendrik Albertus *c1832 was? Ek vermoed my grootouma pas dalk daar is, want sy het haar 2de seun Jurie Hendrik en haar 4de seun CNJ genoem, maar haar pa was nie CNJ *1822 of Jurie Hendrik *1849 (jou b3) nie - lg. was kinderloos volgens sy SK, so ook sy jonger broer Pieter Jacobus Johannes *1864.
Groete Ben du Plessis Nelspruit 0825751601 [email protected]
Boodskap 12a. Re: David DU PLOOY, *12 Febr 1877, Potchefstroom. Posted by: "Simon du Plooy" [email protected] sjdp1951 Tue Jan 8, 2008 11:51 am (PST)
Francois - Hier is wat ek het:
Albertus Stephanus DU PLOOY, *19.1.1833,=Cradock 9.4.1833,+ Paardekraal 16.1.1891 x 20.8.1861 Bloemfontein Petronella Jacoba Willimiena MOCKE *1845, +18.8.1904.D/v Frederick Simon Mocke x Petronella Jacoba Jacomina NN (My vermoede is haar ouers is b5,c3 (SAG 5 (Bl 639) bloot gebaseer op tydvak en naamgewing)
Albertus Stephanus se Ouers: Roelof Arnoldus du Plooy * 18.3.1806 = 5.10.1806, + >1860-1865< Potchefstroom x Cradock 2.5.1830 Maria Johanna Van Jaarsveld *Ca 1816 = Graaf-Reinet 7.10.1816 Roelof Arnoldus se Ouers; Cornelis du Plooy x Anna Sophia Campher -Stamvader A2(Sien SAG 8 Bl 189)
Jou ander versoek "name van sy broerskinders" is vir my onuitvoerbaar - ken hulle nie, ek het slegs kontak met sy ouer broer Frederik Simon se kleinkinders woonagtig hier in Potch maar lyk my ek weet meer van hul oupa as hulself. In PE is een van die ander kleindogters - sy mag moontlik iets weet. Sal probeer uitvind.
Nou die onvermydelike vraag:
David Stephanus Du PLOOY x Maggie Schoeman - Kan julle help met die egpaar se nageslag.
Hopelik vind julle waarde hierin.
Groete,
Simon.
Boodskap 13. (Koerant) Beeld 09 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Tue Jan 8, 2008 9:45 pm (PST)
GINSBERG; Phillip, in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: NG Kerk, Florandia, Pretoria, 10/01/2008, 09:30. (Beeld - 09/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
IZATT; Michele + 09/01/1991. Word nog onthou deur jou man James, kinders en kleinkinders Wayne, Tracy, Wendy, Ruby en Jonah. (Beeld - 09/01/2007)
JOHNSTON; Alexander, in lewe van Sonlandpark, Vereeniging, Gauteng provinsie. Roudiens: St Lukes Presbyterian Church, Vereeniging, 10/01/2008, 15:00. Verassing. (Beeld - 09/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Vereeniging, 016-421-4054.
VAN RHEEDE VAN OUDTSHOORN; Elizabeth Johanna Susanna Petronella (74) * LOTZ, in lewe van Pretoria. Verassingsdiens: Masonic Haven Kapel, Die Wilgers, Pretoria, 09/01/2008, 10:00. Verassing. [ Die van is reg so] (Beeld - 09/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Oos, 012-460-3745.
VERMAAK; Xania. Pieter CLOETE kontak asb vir Marian by 084-538-8464 oor aanneming van jou dogter Xanie. (Beeld - 07, 08, 09/01/2008)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 14. [Koerant] The Mercury Maandag 7 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Tue Jan 8, 2008 9:59 pm (PST)
Dag vriende ,
QUICKQUIP:- " Don't worry about people stealing an idea. If it is original , you will have to ram it down their throats." Howard AIKEN.
GEBOORTES:-ROSS Simon & Marlise 'n dogter Mia Veronica. Suster vir Adrian
SCHWEGMANN nee WAYT David & Karlene 'n seun Cameron David en dogter Hannah Erica * 28/12/2007 in Westville Hospitaal.. Boetie en sussie vir Tayla en Jenna.
VERLOWING:- HOLTSHAUSEN ~DEWHURST Ronnie & Elma se seun Ronald aan Theresa, dogter van Tony & Cindy.
TAYLOR Angela & Graham se dogter Marie-Claire aan Paul , seun van Barbara & + John EVANS.
DOOD:- BOOYSEN Dirk . Liggaam gevind ,Saterdag ,11 dae na vliegramp in Baviaanskloof (Oos Kaap) op plaas Matjiesfontein
LANDERS June Eva + 3/01/2008 in Vryheid x Errol, Ma van Carol, Joan en Sue. Ouma van Charné , Cara-Lee en Mitchell.
MULDER nee CULLEN Bella 05/11/1955 ------01/01/2008 x Jack. Dogter van Bea x + James CULLEN, skoondogter van Ma Wietsz. Ma van Clinton, Candice, Tyran en Luke;Ouma van Maxine & Brittany. ; Suster van James , skoonsuster van Maureen , tannie van Brett, Tracey, Ryan, Dean en Sally-Anne; Ook van familie- Arnold, Karen, Warren, Nicki, Lisa, Brian, Devon, Jordyne en Ross.; Di, Kelly en Matthew.; Steven, Jolene en Kelley en Matthew. Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH 03159959.
WAYBURNE Millie + 03/01/2008. Vriendin van Yvonne, René, Elaine.
MEMORIAM:- ALBERT BLOM 25/08/1933------07/01/2006 x Pamela. Pa van Peter , Mary, Patricia en Derrick. Skoonpa van Tian en Jackie ,8 kleinkinders en agterkleinseun.
LINGARD Lawrence Andrew. 1 jaar dood nou. Broer van Carol, Sandra en Arthur.
NORMAN Joan . 4 jaar dood nou. Ma van Caren, Charles, Charlene, Christopher, Clayton en Hamish.
VAN WYK Jeremy Andrew. Onthou op verjaarsdag deur Ma en Nici.
WOLFSON Issie . 5 jaar dood nou. Pa en oupa van Dave, Shellee, Nicci, Murray en Luke.
Gegroet uit Nat en koeler Durban Aletta Magrieta QUEBBEMANN ( Rita) 15 Mt Royal , Dunkirk Place Umbilo Durban. Suid Afrika Ouers:- STEENKAMP /LOURENS GROOTOUERS :-STEENKAMP/ SCHEEPERS LOURENS /SWANEPOEL / VELDMAN SKOONDOGTER: BOTHA /SWANEPOEL/ SMITH
Boodskap 15. [Koerant] The Mercury Dinsdag 8 Januarie 2008. Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Tue Jan 8, 2008 9:59 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
THE BOTTOM LINE:- "Why are people who ride motorcycles called bikers and people who ride bikes calles cyclists ?" Richard LEDERER.
QUICKQUIP:- " Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." Albert EINSTEIN.
GEBOORTES:- BAKER Donna & Christopher 'n dogter Kiara - Jade * 03/01/2008 in Medi-Clinic PMB.
BLEVINS nee CAIRNDUFF Simon & Vanessa 'n dogter Lucy Kathleen in St Augustines. Suster vir Emma.
LUCIEN - KEMP Bradley & Bianca 'n dogter * 6/01/2008 . Van Oupa & Ouma , David en Tamryn
THOMAS Andrew & Jo 'n seun James Daniel , in St Augustines Hospitaal. Broer vir Matt en Ryan.
VERLOWING:- CLARK Allan & Angela se seun Shane aan Monika , enigste dogter van Fred & Diane ZURCHER.
CRAWLEY Brian & Oneglia se dogter Joanne aan Martin, seun van Brian & Janet TAYLOR.
LEWIS ~ McDONALD Barry & Jacci en Jon & Flo se kinders Angie en Rob is verloof.
MATHER Janine & Philip se dogter Natalie aan Clinton , seun van Dawn & + Brian BARRAS .
SADLER Tom & Carol se enigste dogter Debra aan Greg ,seun van Jeff & Glenda NICHOLSON.
SHAMA /BLACK David & Marie se dogter Madeleine aan Angus ,seun van Eddie & Barbs.
WARTSKI VAN GOEVERDEN Jane & Philip se dogter Andrea aan Nic , seun van Liz en Peter.
DOOD:-ALLAN John Wilson (Jock ) +03/01/2008 x Veldy (Mercia) . Sal gemis word deur vrou en familie- Rory, Susan, Claudia, Pieter en kleinkinders Keagan en Tyron. Begrafnis uit DOVES Greyville op 10/01/2008 om 2 nm. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
BATTISON James Oglivie + 6/01/2008 x Wendy. Pa van Belinda.
BRAND Gail + 27/12/2007.Memorial by The Durban Central United Church op 9/01/2008 om 10 vm. Ingesit deur SHANLEY'S. 0312057644.
DE VILLIERS June .+ 4/01/2008 in Highway Hospice . Memorial by The Holy Trinity Anglikaanse Kerk Hillcrest om 2 nm op 16/01/2008
DUNSTANN -SMITH Basil Edward + 05/01/2008 x Doreen . Pa van Rod en Bev, Tim en Fiona, Betty en Mark. Oupa van Cameron, Brendan, Taryn en Kerry en oupagroot van Shannon. Memorial by St Joseph's Seminary Cedara op 09/01/2008 om 11vm.
GOODALL David + 07/01/2008 . Pa van Allan, Linda, Cheryl en oupa. Ingesit deur SHANLEY'S 031 2057644.
HALLIDAY Ian . Gemis deur Linda.
HOLMES nee HIRON * JAMIESON Denise Cordelia 15/05/1928 ------05/01/2008 .Ma van Jenny en Simon, Mike & Kim. Ouma van Sean, Claire, Lance, Stacey en Scott. Oumagroot van Devan, Keagan, Keanu en Jamie. Gemis deur Ruth ,Keith en Reg familie en vriende. Begrafnis by St James Anglikaanse Kerk Morningside 9/01/2008 om 11 vm. Ingesit deur DOVES 086025500.
LE LONG George + 05/01/2008 x Shirley.van die Bluff. Pa van Yvonne x Chris en oupa van Debbie, Quinten, Liam, Kevin en Kirsty. ; Pa van Lyn x Mike;Oom van Harry, Charmaine, Candice en Harold. Begrafnis by DOVES Greyville op 10/01/2008 om 2nm. Ingesit deur DOVES.0860025500.
LIDDIARD Vida x Theo . Begrafnis by DOVES Greyville op 9/01/2008 om 2nm. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
LLEWELLYN WYNDHAM REES + 4/01/2008. Simpatie aan Dawn en familie. van Ginger en Penny.
MAHOMED Yunus. Voorsitter ,kollega en vriend van Ensign Shipping.
MIENIE nee WILSON / BESTER Gwen + 5/01/2008 in Durban. Suster van Mavis, Freddie, Jimmie, Billie en Agnes. Ma van Margaret, Judy, Joy en Merle Ouma en oumagroot. Ingesit deur SHANLEY'S 0312057644.
PATTISON nee STEELE Morna Ann + 07/01/2008 x Ricky Ma van Raymond . Dogter van Olga. Memorial by St Francis Xavier Katolieke Kerk Bluff op 11/01/2008 om 12 middag.
REILLY Sean Anthony. Pa van Vaughan , Craig en Kim. Memorial Diens by The Durban Country Club 13 /01/2008 om 3 nm. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
SCHLEBUSCH Alwyn + 7/01/2008 op ouderdom 90 in Pretoria Hospitaal. x + (1996) Isabel. Pa van Sarel , Isabel SCHOLTEMEIJER en Betsie PRETORIUS. Sal seker Semi- staat begrfnis wees op Kroonstad. Alwyn kom van Oranja Vrystaat en was " Mayor" op Hennemann in 1940. Daarna Hoof van die kabinet to PW BOTHA an bewind gekom het in 1978. Visie Staatpresident op Jan1981 --Sept 1984. Sal langs sy vrou begrawe word by Kroonstad Noord NG Kerk.
TILL Doris Pearl 04/05/1922------05/01/2008 .Ma van Tommy en Lorna ,Fred en + Faith. Ouma van Gregory en Pauline ,Monique en Wayne en oumagroot van Daine en Alexandra.
WARREN Judy + 5/01/2008. Tannie van Judith en Gary, Lorraine en George , Carline.
WOOD Eleanor . Ma van Lorraine en Fred, Hillary & David, Merrilyn & Erik Ouma van 8 en oumagroot van 4. Memorial in Durban Noord Baptiste Kerk op 11/01/2008 om 3nm.
MEMORIAM:- JOHNSON Glen Anstey . Seun van Rose . Onthou deur Irad, Linda en familie.
KIEDO Donald .10 jaar dood nou. Van familie.
PECKER Raymond. 1 jaar dood nou. Broer en swaer van Barry en Lorraine.
WALKER Flo. Ma en ouma van Raymond, Cheryl, Caryn, Anthony ,Peter, Anne en Natalie.
Gegroet uit Durban, Rita Q.
Boodskap 16. [ Koerant] The Mercury Donderdag 3 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Tue Jan 8, 2008 9:59 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:-" The meek shall inherit the Earth after we're done with it." ANON.
BERIG in koerant bladsy 2:- Op 1 Jan 2008 in vliegramp in Swartberg Berge tussen Oudshoorn en Prince Albert Sterftes :- BEZUIDENHOUT Aletta (40) haar dogters Jacqueline (19) en dogter Elizabeth (13) en 'n vriend Phillip GINSBURG (50) .
GEBOORTES:- WAYNE nee AUSTIN Brett & Chantelle 'n seun Austin Guy * 28/12/2007 in London.
VERLOWINGS:- ARNTZ - DODD. Albert & Helen se dogter Tanja aan James Charles.
BARTON HOUGH Rob & Veronica se dogter Angela aan Rory.
BRIGGS Gail & Russell se enigste dogter Sarah aan David , seun van Merle en Hency BASSON van Uvongo.
PULLER - HEYNS Wendy & Garth.
RITSON KURTINA Andre & Marion se 3de seun Greig aan Liga.
ROBINSON Berkeley & Diana se enigste dogter Fran aan Richard , seun van Alison en Graham SEEGERS.
DOOD:- CROUCH Beryl Isabel + 30/12/2007 x + Sid ,by Riverside Park Homes..Ma van Lynette en Phil, Neville & Jude, Hylton & Ruth , Darrol & Felicity. Ouma en oumagroot.
FANN Frances Ann (Francky ) x John . Ma van Lillian, Marlene, Stephen ,Paul en + David en Gillian. Ouma en oumagroot. Begrafnis by DOVES Greyville 03/01/2008 om 12 middag. Verassing privaat. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
FORBES John Alexander Richard .Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH 031 2059959 .
FOXON Iain Mark + 30/12/2007 (tragies). x Ashley .Pa van Charles en Rebecca. Seun en broer en oom van Gerald & Judith, Chengie en familie. Swaer van Margaret, Liane en familie en Bobby. Begrafnis by Trinity Methodiste Kerk La Lucia 4/01/2008 om 10 vm. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
GARLICK Graham 19/08/1920 -----29/12/2007 in Durban .
GERBER nee RYLEY Lynette Ann + 29/12/2007 .Vrou,ma en ouma , dogter en suster. Johnny, Phyllis, Davin, Elza en familie. Memorial om 11vm op 4 Jan 2008 by Full Gospel Church Shelley Beach..
GRAY Barbara Joan 30/10/1932 ------+ 31/12/2007. x + Buster. Ma van Robin x Mary ,ouma van Andrew en Duncan en kleindogter "in -law" Sue.; Ma van Gill & Mike ouma van Lyndal en Diana, ; Ma van Sally, Frank, Suzie en Noo-Noo. Begrafnis Privaat.
GUY Frederick Charles 12/09/1920 -----01/01/2008.
HALL Susanna Catharina . Begrafnis by DOVES Greyville op 5/01/2008 om 11vm. DOVES 0860025500.
JOHN Shirley Veronica + 30/12/2007 . Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
KITCHIN Trevor Peter + 31/12/2007 Broer van Kevin en Rodney.Memorial by OAKLEIGH Kapel PMB 4/01/2008 om 14.30 nm. Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH 0333426116.
LINTON voorheen EDWARDS Zena Beryl 24/08/1924 ------25/12/2007. Ma van Noelene, Barbara, Billy, en Rolf, skoonma van Neville, Dave en Sandra. Ouma en oumagroot. Begrafnis by Frere Rd Presbyterian Kerk op 4/01/2008 om 10 vm. Verassing privaat.
LORD Wilfred . Simpatie vir Morag, Jill en familie. Van Helen en Grenville; Murray en Michelle, Carey en Dunstan, Jenny en Bruce en familie.
LOTT Denise Romayne. Begrafnis by The Parish of Our Lady of Mercy Kloof op 4/01/2008 om 09.30 vm. Ingesit deur MARTINS Pinetown 0317092142.
MATTHEWMAN Greta x Thomas Eric . Verlies vir FINDLATER Familie.Begrafnis by DOVES Greyville 3/01/2008 om 3nm. Verassing privaat. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
Mc ALISTER George Kenneth + 31/12/2007 Ingesit deur DOVES. 0860025500.
MCLEISH Clem .Pa en oupa van Tammy, Neil en Tessa.
SUTTON Daryl Roy . Broer ,oom en groot oom van Reg, Lindy, Stanley. Memorial 03/01/2008 om 14.30 by Manning Rd Methodiste Kerk.
SWAN Nelson (Digger ) 13/08/1940 ---31/12/2007 x Colleen, van Ntumeni ,Eshowe. Pa van Carol, Brenda, Brad, en Murray, skoonpa van John, Michelle, Malcolm en Tina. Oupa van Damian, Camilla, Paige, Skye, Luke, Chase en Becky.Memorial by Assemblies of God Church Eshowe op 4/01/2008 om 11vm. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
WADE David George + 01/01/2008. Man, pa oupa en Pastoor. Begrafnis uit Living Rivers Family Church Kelso op 5/01/2008 om 3 nm TEL:- 0833070028.
WRIGHT (ANDERSON) Louise .Lewensmaat van Ivan van Austerville Wentworth.. Ma van Marlone en Llewellyn. Skoonma en ouma. Begrafnis by Interfellowship Church Wentworth op 5/01/2008 om 11.30 vm. Daarna na Dudley St Beggraafplaas.
MEMORIAM:- FOADEN Frank . Man, pa en oupa . Ingesit deur Shirley en familie.
LUNN John Douglas .Pa van Tony en Sandy; Sean ,Julie, Ryan, Lori-Beth en Lisa.
PHILLIPS Kenneth . 16 jaar dood nou. Broer van Lorraine.
THOMSON Edith Mary. Ma van Pat x Morris.
VAN REENEN (PARSONS) Jen .5 jaar dood nou. Ma van Tyrel, Jarred ,Kyle, Mum, Sharon en Bevan.
Groete uit Durban Rita Q
Boodskap 17a. Terug Posted by: "kerrieborrie" [email protected] kerrieborrie Tue Jan 8, 2008 10:52 pm (PST)
Goeiemôre Almal,
Was heerlik om in RSA vir 2 weke te kuier moeg na ´n 24 uur se vlieg! My blikbrein is nog by die pc-doktor (17.12.2007 tot ??) sal dit seker vandag of later in die week kan gaan haal... Het die geluk gehad aan my kan kon die argief besoek... Die truffels sal gestuur word met die loop van tyd.
Tot later Elizabeth Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3051
Datum: Tue Jan 8, 2008
Daar is 4 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: Blyvooruitsicht, Transvaal From: Willeen Olivier
2a. Re: GOUWS From: [email protected]
3a. Joubert From: J van der Grijp
4a. Re: Prinsloo From: Karin Serfontein Boodskap 1a. Re: Blyvooruitsicht, Transvaal Posted by: "Willeen Olivier" [email protected] willempie5 Tue Jan 8, 2008 11:14 pm (PST)
Blyvooruitsig is nou een van Alta se dorpies waar die perd reeds dood is! Ek het eendag daar in snikhete gestop vir 'n koeldrank, en die vrou vra my ewe vriendelik waar ek werk. Ek antwoord: "Departement van Omgewingsake" waarop sy nuuskierig vra: "Is dit 'n plek wat karre verhuur?"
En ek kan getuig van die spoedlokvalle. Ons is net voor Kersfees van Pretoria na die Vaalrivier anderkant Potch, en die enigste spoedlokval op die hele pad was daar!
Willeen
Willeen Olivier Rooihuiskraal Kotzé, van Wyk, Olivier, Bosman, en al hulle voorgeslagte ...
Boodskap 2a. Re: GOUWS Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] boerseun_1838 Tue Jan 8, 2008 11:41 pm (PST)
Goeiedag.
Ek het die volgende uit die boedel MHG 13373 by TAB.
Boedelnommer 13373 Voorname Jurie Hendrik Albertus Van GOUWS GeboortePlek Uitenhage Sterfdatum 28 Januarie 1909 Plek Doornhoek, Marico Volle name van Eggenote Martha Christina SLABBERT - oorlede 11/5/1883, xx Cornelia Jacoba BOOYSEN Volle name van Vader Jurie Hendrik GOUWS Volle name van Moeder Magdalena Johanna GROBLER Kinders Jurie Hendrik Christina Johanna, X BEUKES Magdalena Johanna, X GROBLER Martha Christina Lodewika, X DE BEER Martha Johanna Hendrika, X SCOTT Alberta Louisa Elizabeth, X ENGELBRECHT Hubrecht Elizabeth, X GROBLER Dina Johanna, * 7/5/1892
Opmerking Laaste 2 kinders was uit 2de huwelik. Oud 77 en 8 maande.
Die Alberta Louisa Elizabeth x ENGELBRECHT is my eie oumagrootjie.
Sover ek weet, was Magdalena Johanna GROBLER x GOUWS se ouers Coert GROBLER en Dina Johanna GOUWS .
Groete.
Louis Engelbrecht
Boodskap 3a. Joubert Posted by: "J van der Grijp" [email protected] jacquesvdg Tue Jan 8, 2008 11:54 pm (PST)
Dag Almal.
Ek was laas week Soekmekaar (Morebeng is die nuwe naam) toe, om die plaas te soek waar my pa se as uitgestrooi was 14 jaar terug.
Op die selfde plaas het ek afgekom op 'n Joubert graf, wat so weggesteek was, dat ek volgende keer weer gaan sukkel om dit te kry. Die Joubert was glo direkte familie van my kant, volgens my oorlede pa se ma, want hul het daar gebly 50 jaar terug. (My groot ouma was 'n nooi Joubert, maar ek kan nerens by Joubert mense iets verder kry nie.)
Die graf se besonderhede is as volg: Ter nagedagtenis aan Pieter Bloemerus Joubert 7-1-1893 - 3 Dec 1944 Rus in vrede
Het enige Joubert kenners, enige inligting oor Soekmekaar se Joubert's? Ek sal die foto aanstuur as iemand dit wil he
Vriendelike Groete Jacques van der Grijp
Boodskap 4a. Re: Prinsloo Posted by: "Karin Serfontein" [email protected] Wed Jan 9, 2008 12:05 am (PST)
Hello Marì,
Baie, baie dankie vir die inligting wat ek van jou ontvang het, ek waardeer dit opreg.
Elizabeth Johanna Christina Prinsloo g9 x met Carel Rudolph Serfontein van Edenville was my man se oupa en ouma.
Dit is so fantasties om hulp van oral oor te kry en dat 'n mens die genealogiese-gaatjies kan vul wat leeg is.
Hoop jou dag is mooi,
Weereens duisend dankies,
Groetnis,
Karin. Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3052
Datum: Wed Jan 9, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1. FORD/EAGAR From: Johan Brink
2. Springbok begraafplaas groot hulp asb!! From: Johan Pottas
3. Hartigan`s Horse in NONGQAI From: Annelie Els
4a. Re: TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg From: Ariel Rudolph
5a. HELP TOG VIR OU BERNA ASB From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
5b. Re: HELP TOG VIR OU BERNA ASB From: paul.prinsloo
5c. Re: HELP TOG VIR OU BERNA ASB From: Alta Griffiths
5d. Re: HELP TOG VIR OU BERNA ASB From: Lucas Rinken
5e. Re: HELP TOG VIR OU BERNA ASB From: Annelie Els
6. LERM x YOUNG From: Hendrik Louw AbsaMail
7a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
8a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
9. Begrafnisbrief_ Daniel CRONJE From: Jorge Estreux
10a. Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie From: bosschris100
10b. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie From: Annelie Els
10c. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie From: bosschris100
10d. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie From: bosschris100
10e. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie From: Louis Hurn
10f. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie From: Annelie Els
10g. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie From: Louis Hurn
10h. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie From: bosschris100
11. DE Kroon Huwelik From: anita slabbert
12. Nic van Helsdingen From: Dennis Laptop
13. HP Capshare hand Skandeerder From: Dennis Laptop
14a. Re: PRINSLOO From: paul.prinsloo Boodskap 1. FORD/EAGAR Posted by: "Johan Brink" [email protected] Wed Jan 9, 2008 12:53 am (PST)
Kan iemand dalk help met dié FORD-verbintenisse?
Ek soek duidelikheid oor die aantroue met die EAGAR's, asook meer gegewens oor die betrokke EAGAR's wat hieronder genoem word.
1. Francois Jan EAGAR [altn Francis John, vlgs sy SK OVS/MHG 18466], boer "Bachuana", distr Thaba Nchu en later van Clocolan, distr Ladybrand *Grahamstad ca.1849 +(77jr 8mnde, op dorp) Clocolan 12.2.1926, sv Charles Ross EAGAR (*ca 1820) en Elizabeth Magdalena FORD [vlgs F.J. se SK] x Wepener ca 1872 Susara Jacoba Sophia BRIEL *KP ca.1857 +(wed 80jr 3mnde, op dorp) Clocolan 9.6.1937, dv Johannes en Dina Margrietha née FORD, 3s 3d [vlgs sy SK en haar SK OVS/MHG 28782]
2. Charles Ross EAGAR *ca. 1822 x Elizabeth Hester Stretch FORD.
Groete
Johan Brink
Vermont, Hermanus
[BRINK, EAGAR/EAGER, (VON) DURING-navorser]
Boodskap 2. Springbok begraafplaas groot hulp asb!! Posted by: "Johan Pottas" [email protected] pottasjj Wed Jan 9, 2008 1:05 am (PST)
Dag almal
Ek is dringend opsoek na iemand wat iemand ken in Springbok, Noord-Kaap wat my kan help met inligting van twee grafstene in die begraafplaas.
Ek is opsoek na die datums en name soos dit op die stene verskyn van die volgende man en vrou:
Gerrit Johannes van Wyk, oorlede c 1955 en Pieter? Maria? bekend eerder as Martha Kotze oorlede c 1962.
Baie dankie vir julle samewerking
Groete
Johan J Pottas Rekensentrum UV Tel: +27-51-401-2767 werk Tel: +27-51-522-7329 huis Tel: +27-82-569-3727 sel Faks: +27-51-401-2765 werk Posbus 34559, Faunasig, 9325
Boodskap 3. Hartigan`s Horse in NONGQAI Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Wed Jan 9, 2008 1:20 am (PST)
Hello Medegeners,
Ek verbeel my dat iemand iets genoem het oor Hartigan`s Horse wat in die NONGQAI voorkom.
Het op `n foto van Offisiers afgekom wat in 1915 afgeneem is.
Indien die persoon belang stel laat weet net.
Groetnis Annelie.
Boodskap 4a. Re: TVK - Malan, Rudolph, Van Rensburg Posted by: "Ariel Rudolph" [email protected] arielrudolph Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:04 am (PST)
Alta, Dankie vir daai bevestiging,
Ek het hom in my databasis maar het hom nog nie gekoppel nie.
Groete Ariel
Boodskap 5a. HELP TOG VIR OU BERNA ASB Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Wed Jan 9, 2008 5:33 am (PST)
Hallo alle lyslede:
Cornel, Louw (is jy ook by die groepe?) en Johan Vermeulen. Ek het ongelukkige nie Johan van Deventer en Wickus van de Venter se adresse by my nie, nie tuis nie, nog nie.
Op 'n Griesel web-blad ontdek ek die volgende: (Die webtuiste adres is op Google. Ek weet nie wie die blad in stand hou nie? Ek het "VAN DEVENTER" ingetik toe, soos my aangeraai is, maar teen 23h15 wou my oë toeval want daar is oor die 2 miljoen van enige kleur, van oor die wêreld en van enige beroep denkbaar! Dis ongelooflik! Slegs SA s'n is ook iets soos 37 400.) Ek het soos 'n verkleurmannetjie op a smartie boxie gevoel naderhand; voel dit steeds met al die missing pieces in the puzzle!
C3 Stephanus Gerhardus Griesel -* 7.9.1794 + Fauresmith 10.7.1862 (15.4.64) X Graaff- Reinet8.3.1818 Hendrina Johanna Vermeulen - Hier is nou weer 'n Vermeulen. D4 Hendrik Jacobus * 8.11.1833 _ Worcester 29.12.1833 X Hendrietha van Deventer (van De Venter) + 23.4.1857(23) d.v. Gert van de Venter en Bertha du Toit
Wie is die van Deventer's of van de Venter's?
Die NG Gemeente Petrusburg se Jubileum was 1892 tot 1942 (My pa het die kerkblad in sy besit, van sy moeder ontvang.)
Daar word melding gemaak van 'n oom Frikkie van Niekerk, waarskynlik my grootouma Anna se vader. Ouma Anna is met my grootoupa Bernardus Johannes Stefanus van Deventer getroud. Daar is net 'n Klein ID tipe foto'tjie van haar in die blad.
Die eerste paar wat getroud is was deur 'n Ds A Murray op die 15de Augustus 1892: Dit was Michiel Jakobus Brand van Deventer en Johanna Jacoba du Toit. Slaat my dood met 'n pap snoek maar ek weet nie wie hulle is nie? Ek veronderstel hulle moet familie wees? My oupa Jan is in Petrusburg gebore. Julle moet nou maar vir my lag maar ek is dom met hierdie NAAIRS, dit maak my skoon verboggereerd! Ek weet nie wat hulle wil hê moet ek in watter reëltjie intik nie? Niks wat ek doen werk nie; ek kry geen resultate nie. Ek kry myself nie eers op die databasis nie; persona nongrata! Tik ek die dorp se naam in kry ek duisende dokumente maar hoe kry ek dit onder oë? Help asseblief, hoe doen ek dit? Teken tog vir my 'n prentjie! DANKIE!
Vriendelik groete Berna
Boodskap 5b. Re: HELP TOG VIR OU BERNA ASB Posted by: "paul.prinsloo" [email protected] paul.prinsloo Wed Jan 9, 2008 6:15 am (PST)
Wees maar bly jy kry jouself nie op NAAIRs nie.. lol
Boodskap 5c. Re: HELP TOG VIR OU BERNA ASB Posted by: "Alta Griffiths" [email protected] griffithsalta Wed Jan 9, 2008 7:15 am (PST)
Berna
NAAIRS is 'n databasis met al die verwysingnommers. Jy kan nie 'n leer opmaak om te sien wat binne in aangaan nie!
Die KAB, NAB, TAB, VAB wat jy op die dokument sien - dui aan in watter argief die dokumente gevind kan word
Dan moet jy iemand kry by die betrokke argief om dit vir jou na te gaan of af te neem. Vra vir Annelie Els - sy het kontakte by almal - net die KAB is 'n saak vir die judge! [email protected]
Groete
Alta Griffiths Posbus 1998 DURBANVILLE 7551
Tel: 021 - 975 5491 Sel: 083 948 5207
Navorsing: Volle vanne:- Rudolph, Van der Sandt, Gloy, Cothill. Asook die Oliviers en Slabberts van Heidelberg, Tvl tot by 1930
Boodskap 5d. Re: HELP TOG VIR OU BERNA ASB Posted by: "Lucas Rinken" [email protected] rinkenlg Wed Jan 9, 2008 8:01 am (PST)
Dag Berna,
Gerrit Albertus van DEVENTER (Ook bekend as VAN DE VENTER.) * 8.10.1813 ~ Tulbagh 21.11.1813 x Swellendam 2.12.1832 Bertha Margaretha du TOIT * Hoekplaats, Robertson 1815 + Addersfontein, Swellendam 18.10.1879 KAB-MOOC-6/9/171-7452- 1879.
Ek het nie haar ouers nie maar hy was die seun van Willem Adriaan van DEVENTER * Middeelvoetpad, Robertson 9.5.1782 ~ 5.10.1782 + Zandfontein, Robertson 27.8.1861 x Swellendam 8.1807 Petronella Magdalena van ZIJL ~ 16.9.1791 + omtrent 1857.
Laat weet as ek verder kan help.
Groetnis,
Lucas
Boodskap 5e. Re: HELP TOG VIR OU BERNA ASB Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Wed Jan 9, 2008 8:02 am (PST)
Hallo Berna en Alta,
Ek antwoord haar van lys af.
Groetnis Annelie.
Boodskap 6. LERM x YOUNG Posted by: "Hendrik Louw AbsaMail" [email protected] loogkolk Wed Jan 9, 2008 6:07 am (PST)
Enige barmartige samaritaan wat bereid is om my behulpsaam te wees om onderstaande SK te Pretoria om te soek, GROOT ASB. of miskien iemand wat beskik oor die inligting. Opsoek na die voorouers van beide.
TAB MHG 2743/72 LERM, STEPHANUS JESAJA (1972) REMARKS S/SPOUSE MAGDALENA SUSANNA CATHARINA YOUNG
Baie dankie
Hendrik LOUW 082 722 6500
Boodskap 7a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Wed Jan 9, 2008 6:37 am (PST)
P 54
341 Hendrik Josephus geb 12 Julÿ 1861
Ouders: Johannes Michiel VENTER
Martina Adriana GEÿSER
Getuig: Johannes Jacobus GEÿSER
Margaretha Magdalena BOTHA
Gerardus Lourens VAN EMMENIS
Anna Jacoba GEÿSER
342 Maria Elisabet geb 13 April 1862
Ouders: Pieter Johannes Lodewyk VENTER
Maria Magdalena Isabella DORFLENG ?
Getuig: Pieter Johannes Lodewyk VENTER
Maria Aletta DE BEER
Johannes Michiel VENTER
Martina Adriana GEÿSER
343 Margaretha Sophya Johanna geb 20 Sept 1861
Ouders: Willem PRETORIUS
Anna Adriana DUPLOOÿ
Getuig: Petrus Paulus HUGO
Magdalena Wilhelmina Gertruida RAATS
David Johannes VEREYER
Wilhelmina Petronella BOTHA
344 Hendrik Jacobus geb 1 April 1862
Ouders: Hendrik Jacobus VENTER
Louisa Zusanna VORIE
Getuig: Theodorus Hermanus Garardus VORIE
Johanna Magdalena RAATS
345 Jan Louis geb 18 Maart 1862
Ouders: Roelof Cornelis Jacobus BEZUIDENHOUT
Johanna Jacomina Susanna VENTER
Getuig: Jan Louis VENTER
Susanna Catharina Petronella VENTER
Alewÿn Petrus BOTHA
Emmerencie Adrian GEÿSER
P 55
346 Hester Helena Louisa geb 20 Maart 1862
Ouders: Barend Jacobus FORSTER
Maria Susanna Margaretha BOTHA
Getuig: Christiaan Maurits VAN NIEKERK
Emmerencie Frederika FORSTER
Wilhelmus GROBLER
Wilhelmina BOTHA
347 Jacob Bernard Geb 12 Sept 1861
Ouders: Jacobus Daniel VENTER
Catharina Maria DORFLEIN
Getuig: Jan Louis VENTER
Jacoba Aletta Frederika VENTER
Petrus Jacobus Johannes Stefanus Lodewyk VENTER
Anna Susanna VAN DÿK
348 Elsje Catharina geb 21 Oct 1861
Ouders: Hendrik Lambert Johannes BRONKHORST
Cornelia Johanna Geertruida Jacoba GROBLER
Getuig: Nicolaas Johannes GROBLER
Elisabetta PRETORIUS
Pieter Johannes GROBLER
Pieter Johanna BOTHA
349 Hester Helena geb 3 Aug 1861
Ouders: Hendrik Lambert BOTHA
Anna Jacoba VAN EEDEN
Getuig: Teunis Johannes BOTHA
Adriana Jacoba Maria DUPLESSIS
George Frederik SMIT
Magdalena Wilhelmina Catharina BOTHA
350 Hendrina Berendina Petronella geb 4 Feb 1862
Ouders: Teunis Johannes BOTHA
Maria Susanna HAVENGAA
Getuig: Petrus Johannes SNÿMAN
Petronella Margaretha ROBBERTSE
Andries Stephanus CRONJE
Hendrina Berendina Petronella HAVINGAA
P 56
351 Andries Wilhelmus Arnoldus geb 22 October 1861
Ouders: Andries Wilhelmus Arnoldus DUVENAGE
Anna Dorothea SMIT
Getuig: Barend Christoffel DUVENAGE
Elsje Magdalena DUVENAGE
Frederik Hendrik GEÿSER
Susara Johanna Susanna BRONKHORST
352 Susanna Maria Elisabet geb 4 October 1861
Ouders: Gert Lourens VAN EMMENIS
Anna Jacoba GEÿSER
Getuig: Johannes Jacobus GEÿSER
Margaretha Magdalena BOTHA
Stephanus Andries VAN EMMENIS
Anna Francina BRITZ
353 Jannetta Johanna geb 22 Sept 1861
Ouders: Barend Christoffel DUVENAGE
Elsje Magdalena DUVENAGE
Getuig: Teunis Johannes DUVENAGE
Jannetta VICTOR
Andries Wilhelmus Arnoldus DUVENAGE
Anna Dorothea SMIT
Gideon Jacobus SNÿMAN
Hendrina Cornelia DUVENAGE
354 Abraham Cornelis Diederik geb 23 Julÿ 1861
Ouders: Gert Johannes DUVENAGE
Susanna Zacharya Magdalena VAN WÿK
Getuig: Abraham Petrus DUVENAGE
Johanna Elisabetta PELTZER
Berend Christoffel DUVENAGE
Elsje Magdalena DUVENAGE
Abraham Barend DUVENAGE
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 8a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Wed Jan 9, 2008 6:39 am (PST)
P 57
355 Petrus Jacobus geb 4 April 1862
Ouders: Philip Karel SMIT
Carolina Wilhelmina MINNAAR
Getuig: Petrus Jacobus MINNAAR
Johanna Jacoba MINNAAR
Philip Karel MINNAAR
Maria Jacoba BRONKHORST
356 Georg Frederik .... geb 30 October 1861
Ouders: Pieter Daniel Andries Salomo DUPREZ
Gertruida Aletta BOTHA
Getuig: Georg Frederik SNYMAN
Magdalena Wilhelmina Catharina BOTHA
Teunis Johannes BOTHA
Adriana Jacoba Maria DUPLESSIS
Teunis Johannes Jacobus DUPREZ
GEDOOPT OP DEN PLAATS VAN BRD DIAKEN A.P. BOTHA OP DEN 28STE APRIL 1862 IN TEGENWOORDIGHEID VAN BROEDER OUDERLING I.? P VENTER
357 Gertruida Aletta geb 26 April 1862
Ouders: Petrus Casparus SNÿDERS
Jacoba Johanna Petronella Maria JONKER
Getuig: Johannes Jacobus MEINHARD (doopvader)
Alida Aletta Martha Susanna DUPLOOÿ
358 Aletta Johanna geb 22 Mei 1861 ged 4 Mei 1862
Ouders: Charles Elof GROBLER
Elsje Maria KOETZER
Get: Philip Stephanus JACOBS
Aletta Johanna KOETZER
Hermanus Johannes KOETZER
359 Johanna Sophia Clovina ? geb 1 Junÿ 1861 ged 4 Mei 1862
Ouders: Tobias Georg LAGRANGE
Johanna Sophia GROBLER
Willem Jan Hendrik POTGIETER
Johanna Wilhelmina LAGRANGE
Sara Louisa LAGRANGE
P 58
360 David Stephanus geb 3 Januarÿ 1862 ged 4 Mei 1862
Ouders: Philip Stephanus JACOBS
Aletta Johanna KOERTZE
Get: David Stephanus JACOBS
Willem Andries COMBRINK
Maria Johanna COMBRINK geb DUPLOOÿ
361 Martha Johanna Catharina Petronella geb 19 Nov 1861 ged 4 Mei 1862
Ouders: Andries Hendrik BOTHA
Martha Johanna Catharina Petronellla VAN EEDEN
Get: Nicolaas Johannes VAN EEDEN
Dorothea POTGIETER
Nicolaas Johannes GROBLER
Wilhelmina DUPREEZ
362 Pieter Johannes geb 7 Aug 1861 ged 4 Mei 1862
Ouders: Johannes Frederik BOTHA
Maria Aletta HATTING
Get: Petrus GROBLER
Pieter Johanna BOTHA
Andries Hendrik BOTHA
Martha Johanna Catharina Petronella VAN EEDEN
363 Elsje Elisabetta Sophia geb 7 Oct 1861 ged 4 Mei 1862
Ouders: Johannes Arnoldus BREET
Gerardus Helena VAN WÿK
Get: Cornelis Johannes Abram VAN WÿK
Christina Jacoba HATTING
Gert Petrus VAN WÿK
Anna Salomina BREET
364 Johanna Adriana Maria geb 24 Nov 1861 ged 4 Mei 1862
Ouders: Cornelis Abram Willem VAN WÿK
Susanna Margaretha VORTMAN
Get: Antonetta Dorothea FORTMAN
Johannes Petrus KLOPPERS
Maria Jacoba MINNAAR
Gerrit Johannes DUVENAGE
Susanna Zacharya VAN WÿK
P 59
365 Dorothea Margaritha Geb 5 April 1862 ged 4 Mei 1862
Ouders: Gerrit Petrus Daniel Jacobus NEL
Susanna Wilhelmina Carolina COMBRINK
Get: Maria Johanna NEL
366 Jacobus Johannes geb 6 Julÿ 1861 ged 4 Mei 1862
Ouders: Jan Johannes POTGIETER
Elisabetta Cornelia VAN DER MERWE
Get: Jacobus Johannes POTGIETER
Martha Aletta SNÿMAN
David Schalk VAN DER MERWE
Neeltje VAN DER MERWE
Jacobus Johannes VAN DER MERWE J.Z.
367 Jacobus Hendrik geb 18 Oct 1861 ged 4 Mei 1862
Ouders: Jacobus Hendrik DUVENAGE
Helena Gertruida JACOBS
Get: Jan Georg DUVENAGE
Willem Jacobus PELSTER
Margaritha Alida JACOBS
Teunis Tjaard DUVENAGE
Johanna Wilhelmina Margaretha SMIT
368 Hendrik Christoffel geb 11 Sept 1861 ged 4 Mei 1862
Ouders: Frederik Jacobus BOTHA
Sophia Magdalena STRÿDOM
Get: IJH VERCEUIL
HT BOTHA
369 Barbara Jacomina geb 8 Feb 1862 ged 4 Mei 1862
Ouders: Jan Dirkse? GROBLER
Elisabetta Maria WOlLHUTER
Get: Pieter GROBLER (doopvader)
Barbara Jacomina GALLSTER?
Pieter GROBLER
Johanna Maria ? JACOBS
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 9. Begrafnisbrief_ Daniel CRONJE Posted by: "Jorge Estreux" [email protected] jorgeestreux Wed Jan 9, 2008 6:54 am (PST)
Hallo almal,
Begrafnis: Daniel Frederick CRONJE *26 Maart 1937 + 6 Januarie 2008 begr. 9 Jan 2008 Zuurfontuin, Kempton Park. X Yvonne NN. Kinders: Johan, Riaan (tweeling), Marietjie X Deon VAN TONDER, Neelsie, Veronica.
Gert
Boodskap 10a. Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie Posted by: "bosschris100" [email protected] bosschris100 Wed Jan 9, 2008 8:37 am (PST)
Ek dink hierdie is regtig 'n fantastiese webplek, van wat ek sover gelees het.
Baie dankie vir die toelating, ek hoop dat ek alles volgens julle etiek doen
Ek wil graag die Bossert familie in SA navolg, met fotos en geskiedenis van die Bosserts.
My oupa Frederik Christiaan Bossert - verjaardag 12 Oktober, Hy was 'n Grofsmid/Blacksmith by Murray & Roberts en blykbaar het hy werk gaan doen Sir Seretse Khama, waar die hele familie gaan kuier het. Hulle het grootgeword op Rooigrond naby Mafeking 1930. En daarna by Zeerus.
My Pa was Christoffel Jan Bossert, gebore 18/05/1940
Enige hulp en advies sal waardeer word
Boodskap 10b. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Wed Jan 9, 2008 8:47 am (PST)
Hallo Chris,
Dan is die verwysing na `n boedellêer by die Argief in Pretoria dalk familie. Die persoon het in 1899 gesterf.
TAB MHG O/16566 BOSSERT, FREDERIK CHRISTIAAN.1899 NAGELATE EGGENOOT MARTHA WILHELMINA (PRETORIUS).
Groetnis Annelie
Boodskap 10c. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie Posted by: "bosschris100" [email protected] bosschris100 Wed Jan 9, 2008 9:07 am (PST)
Baie dankie sover
Ek het nou net uitgevind sy pa was Jan Christoffel Bossert getroud met Hester ???
Dankie vir jou informasie Annelie ek is seker dit gaan iewers inval Vhris
Boodskap 10d. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie Posted by: "bosschris100" [email protected] bosschris100 Wed Jan 9, 2008 9:17 am (PST)
Jammer dit klink dalk onduidelik. My Oupa se pa was Jan Christoffel
Jan Bosser Dankie Chris
Boodskap 10e. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie Posted by: "Louis Hurn" [email protected] ljhurn Wed Jan 9, 2008 9:51 am (PST)
Hallo Chris,
Kyk gerus na my website : Link na die website
http://www.onsfamilie.info/register.php?personID=I399&tree=Hurn&generations=10
Lys van vanne in site http://www.onsfamilie.info/surnames100.php?topnum=100&tree=Hurn
My Ouma was Anna Catharina Bossert, getroud met Henry Robert Hurn, sy pa was ook met 'n Bossert getroud.
Ek sal graag meer kontak wil maak.
Groete Louis Hurn uit 'n lekker koel Durban.
Boodskap 10f. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Wed Jan 9, 2008 10:23 am (PST)
Hallo Louis en Chris.
Ek het na jou stamboom gaan kyk en gesien dat John Bernard Robertson HURN se vrou Martha het `n broer met die naam Jan Christoffel.
Dalk is dit dieselfde een wat Chris soek.
Dink net `n nuwe familielid :-)))
Hou ons op hoogte van hierdie verwikkeling asseblief.
Groetnis Annelie.
Boodskap 10g. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie Posted by: "Louis Hurn" [email protected] ljhurn Wed Jan 9, 2008 10:29 am (PST)
Hi Annelie,
Ek sal my kop op 'n blok sit dat hy my neef is! My pa het baie gepraat van sy neef op Rooigrond en die Grofsmit konneksie is ook genoem. Ek sal by hom hoor of hy dalk iets kan onthou oor die familieplaas Kapsteel in Lichtenburg.
Groete Louis (Baie exited) vanuit 'n lekker koel Durban
Boodskap 10h. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie Posted by: "bosschris100" [email protected] bosschris100 Wed Jan 9, 2008 10:36 am (PST)
Haai Annelie & Louis
Ek Het na Louis Se lyn gekyk Intussen het ek meer informasie gekry my oupa-grootjie was Jan Christoffel Bossert - gebore onbekend Hy was getroud met Hester Cornelia Swanepoel, haar niggie was getroud met 'n Martin "khaki / engelsman" ook van Rooigrond Hy het twee broers gehad ?, Frik ?, Oom Bill ?/ Benjamin ? - als onseker My Oupa was Frederik Christiaan Bossert gebore 12/10/1896 Hy was getroud (1) Pretronella Duvenage (2) "kotie"
Hoop die datums kan help
Is daar niemand hier wat op ancestors.com geregistreer is nie ?
By voorbaat dankie Chris
Boodskap 11. DE Kroon Huwelik Posted by: "anita slabbert" [email protected] Wed Jan 9, 2008 9:20 am (PST)
Dagsê mense
Hoop julle kry sommer almal waarna julle soek die jaar. Waar sal mens 'n aantekening of rekord kry van 'n huwelik wat plaasgevind het op De Kroon (Rustenburg/Brits omgewing) so om en by 1910? In die SK staan duidelik ' getroud op De Kroon'. Is daar doop rekords beskikbaar erens van De Kroon van enige van die kinders wat so om en by daai tyd gebore is?
Anita
Boodskap 12. Nic van Helsdingen Posted by: "Dennis Laptop" [email protected] dennis_pretorius Wed Jan 9, 2008 9:51 am (PST)
hallo almal
Ek het belowe op julle in te lig sodra ek iets hoor ivm Nick - ek van Jean gehoor en sluit haar boodskap hierby in.
Ons is almal saam met Nic en sy familie bly !!
Groetnis
Dennis Pretorius, Krugersdorp, South Africa/Suid Afrika Executive Member of GSSA / Uitvoerende Lid van GGSA Genealogical Researcher/Genealogiese Navorser Owner of SAGenealogy E-mail list/Lyseienaar - SAGenealogie poslys E-Mail/E-pos: [email protected] Web address/Webadres: http://mzone.mweb.co.za/residents/k75/genealogy.html Telephone/Telefoon: +27-83-679-8541 Fax/Faks +27-86-609-8541
----- Original Message ------Original Message ----- From: Nic van Helsdingen To: undisclosed-recipients: Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:46 AM Subject: [?? Probable Spam] Test results
Dear Family and Friends,
Just received Nic's test results: There were 4 cancerous growths removed entirely. The lymphs nodes are clean. Praise the Lord!!
Scrapings were taken and tested of the other markings on the remaining part of the bowel, and these too have come back clear.
Apparently due to the fact that the cancer had already spread to the small intestine, (although it was removed), Nic will still go for a few chemo sessions to make double sure that all is ok. We cannot thank our Lord enough for this blessing, and to Him the Great Healer all honor and praise. All we ask for now is that Nic will recover fully and return home soon.
Thank you all once again for all the wonderful support and prayers that helped carry Nic and our family through these past days, all the phone calls, emails, sms's and hugs. What an enormous prayer circle we had! God Bless you all. sincere appreciation van Helsdingen Family
Boodskap 13. HP Capshare hand Skandeerder Posted by: "Dennis Laptop" [email protected] dennis_pretorius Wed Jan 9, 2008 9:52 am (PST)
Hallo Almal
Ons is besig om die Braamfontein Begraafplaas se registeropsomming te "scan" en doen dit met 'n HP Capshare Digitale handskandeerder - maar het nog een nodig om die projek vinnig af te handel.
Ons wil graag een leen by iemand vir een naweek maar weet dat dit 'n skaars item is
Is daar dalk een van ons lede wat kan help - dit sal baie waardeer word groetnis
Dennis Pretorius, Krugersdorp, South Africa/Suid Afrika Executive Member of GSSA / Uitvoerende Lid van GGSA Genealogical Researcher/Genealogiese Navorser Owner of SAGenealogy E-mail list/Lyseienaar - SAGenealogie poslys E-Mail/E-pos: [email protected] Web address/Webadres: http://mzone.mweb.co.za/residents/k75/genealogy.html Telephone/Telefoon: +27-83-679-8541 Fax/Faks +27-86-609-8541
Boodskap 14a. Re: PRINSLOO Posted by: "paul.prinsloo" [email protected] paul.prinsloo Wed Jan 9, 2008 10:30 am (PST) hi Ben.. ja SAG 8 bladsy 478 lys Anthonie Christoffel b3c3d1e1f5 se vrou as Maria Catharina Snyman, met troudatum 7/1/1827, haar sterfdatum as 12/3/1901 op ouderdom 90.9
Paar bladsye verder bladsy 481 is Maria Catharina Prinsloo, b3c3d4e2f4, getroud met AC, selfde troudatum, selfde sterfdatum, selfde ouderdom. So ek dink dis redelik veilig om te aanvaar sy was 'n Prinsloo, nie Snyman nie.
Of weet iemand anders iets wat ek heeltemal miskyk dalk?? bye Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3053
Datum: Wed Jan 9, 2008
Daar is 24 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie From: bosschris100
2a. CALITZDORP Lidmaatregister 1873 - 1914 From: alta le roux
2b. Re: CALITZDORP Lidmaatregister 1873 - 1914 From: Mariana Olivier
2c. Re: CALITZDORP Lidmaatregister 1873 - 1914 From: Dik groenhuizen
2d. Re: CALITZDORP Lidmaatregister 1873 - 1914 From: Johan Brink
3. HULP VERLEEN MET NAAIRS From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
4a. Re: DE Kroon Huwelik From: christo.heymans
4b. DE Kroon Huwelik From: Erik Kriel
5a. Re: Kwartierstaat van Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, gebore 6 Jule 1849 From: mathildacdv
6. de Kroon Brits From: Louis Olivier
7. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 09 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
8a. Re: FOTO BRIXTON BEGRAFPLAAS From: mathildacdv
8b. Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand From: [email protected]
9. CALITZDORP Lidmaatregister 1873 - 1914 (D - K) From: Francois Greeff
10. BOSSERT/EAGAR From: Johan Brink
11. Eeuw van Onrecht / Jan smuts From: BD Leach
12a. re Voorouers From: Petrus Schoeman
12b. MAARTENS - vir Petrus Schoeman From: Annelie Els
13. HAJENIUS From: Marlene S
14. [Koerant] The Mercury Woensdag 9 Januarie 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
15a. Finale rusplek van Theron Stamvader in Suid-Afrika From: Drikus Theron
15b. Re: Finale rusplek van Theron Stamvader in Suid-Afrika From: Dawie Theron
16. (Koerant) Beeld 10 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
17. SS Zuiderkruis 28 July 1958 Kaapstad/ Cape Town From: Gerda gmail Boodskap 1a. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie Posted by: "bosschris100" [email protected] bosschris100 Wed Jan 9, 2008 10:44 am (PST)
Hi louis
Ek het hierdie een net gemis voor ek geantwoord het
Ek weet nie of hulle op 'n plaas of plot gebly het nie, maar net dat dit op rooigrond was, kyk ook asb na my vorige antwoord dankie Chris
Boodskap 2a. CALITZDORP Lidmaatregister 1873 - 1914 Posted by: "alta le roux" [email protected] Wed Jan 9, 2008 11:01 am (PST)
Vriende
Weet iemand dalk waar die gemeente "Van der Merwe" is of was? Ek het nou 'n hele paar inskrywings gekry in bogenoemde register waar die lidmaatsertifikaat gestuur is na Van der Merwe - ek neem aan dit was 'n gemeente. Lyk my heelwat Calitzdorpers het soontoe verhuis!
Alta le Roux [email protected] Posbus 1138, OUDTSHOORN, 6620 Tel. 083 996 0676 / 044 272 2271 (h) / 044 272 3676 (w)
Boodskap 2b. Re: CALITZDORP Lidmaatregister 1873 - 1914 Posted by: "Mariana Olivier" [email protected] cilliersolivier Wed Jan 9, 2008 11:33 am (PST)
Hallo Alta
Bonnievale - weet dit het in die vroeë 1900's nog bestaan - weet nie of dit nog bestaan nie.
Groete Mariana Olivier Kaapstad
Boodskap 2c. Re: CALITZDORP Lidmaatregister 1873 - 1914 Posted by: "Dik groenhuizen" [email protected] dikgroenhuizen Wed Jan 9, 2008 12:11 pm (PST)
Dag Alta
Zo de geschiedenis te lezen is het volgens mij van een verre Nederlandse adelijke familie voorouders van Kasteel te Merwe en de familie van der Merwe http://www.geocities.com/sa_stamouers/vandermerwe.htm http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasteel_Te_Merwe aan de Merwede (rivier in N.L.) http://www.rotarytermerwe.nl/geschiedenis.htm http://www.wandelaar.nl/gw1dordt-gouda1.html http://www.verhalenvandordrecht.nl/verhaal.php?nummer=496
Groeten Dik Groenhuizen - Beekbergen / Nederland
Boodskap 2d. Re: CALITZDORP Lidmaatregister 1873 - 1914 Posted by: "Johan Brink" [email protected] Wed Jan 9, 2008 12:57 pm (PST)
Hallo Alta
Ja, dis die naam van die NG gemeente van Bonnievale in die Wes-Kaap; dit is vandag nog die naam. (Raadpleeg die NGK Jaarboek vir meer info oor die kontakbesonderhede van die gemeente, indien nodig.]
Johan
Boodskap 3. HULP VERLEEN MET NAAIRS Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Wed Jan 9, 2008 11:01 am (PST)
Naandsê
Dankie vir al die terugvoer, Annelie, Alta, Paul, Willeen, en Lucas, ek verstaan nou die hele NAAIRS storie baie beter. Lucas, vir jou vir die een Van Deventer, Gerrit en kie. se uitleg.
Ek voel darem nie meer heeltemal so hulpeloos en dom nie.
Paul is ek nie veronderstel om my naam op die geboorteregister op NAAIRS te kan opspoor nie of is ek nou eers onnosel? Daar op my tuisdorp hou hulle op by 1972 maar ek is in 1961 gebore. My ou naampie behoort darem seker daar te staan....? Hopelik nie my sterftesertifikaat nie want dit kan lol soos jy tereg sê!
Met tyd sal ek seker ook so slim en geoefen wees soos julle ou hande.
Dankie vir die ondersteuning.
Rustige nag vir almal.
Berna
Boodskap 4a. Re: DE Kroon Huwelik Posted by: "christo.heymans" [email protected] christo.heymans Wed Jan 9, 2008 11:22 am (PST)
Net buite Rustenburg op die N4 na Brits/Hartebeestpoortdam is die Duitste dorpie wat bekend staan as Kroondal. Daar is 'n NG Kerk in die dorpie.
Grte. Christo
Boodskap 4b. DE Kroon Huwelik Posted by: "Erik Kriel" [email protected] fh_kriel Wed Jan 9, 2008 9:58 pm (PST)
Hi Anita
As jy uitvind, laat my ook weet ek soek ook 'n de Kroon huwelik
Petrus Johannes KRUGER *6 Nov 1888 +15 May 1970 x cir 1924 de Kroon, Brits Anna Johanna Hendrina Josina SCHOEMAN *22 Jul 1891 = 4 Oct 1891 Pretoria +20 May 1956 Pretoria
Ek het al probeer kyk deur die LDS se huwelike vir Pretoria en Brits, maar dit ontwyk my nog. TVL het die NG, NHK en Gereformeerde kerke gehad en dit raak so 'n nagmerrie om iemand op te spoor - simpel Transvalers wat elkeen hulle eie kerk loop stig het (wat het hulle gedink?).
Groete
Erik Kriel
Van 'n nat en renerige Johannesburg (hoe moet ek nou my wasgoed droog kry?)
Boodskap 5a. Re: Kwartierstaat van Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, gebore 6 Jule 1849 Posted by: "mathildacdv" [email protected] mathildacdv Wed Jan 9, 2008 11:30 am (PST)
Goeie dag Cornel,
Ek is op soek na Catharina Elizabetha van Niekerk geb. 26 Mar 1875, Somerset-Wes, oorl. 24 Jun 1960, Middelburg, Tvl, se ouers. Of haar SAG is daar slegs genoem dat albei reeds oorlede is. Sy was getroud met David Jacobus Abraham De Villiers op 28 Feb 1893 in Middelburg, Mpumalanga (ou Transvaal).
Groetnis uit 'n nat Pietersburg. Mathilda de Villiers
Boodskap 6. de Kroon Brits Posted by: "Louis Olivier" [email protected] Wed Jan 9, 2008 11:48 am (PST)
Anita De Kroon is net buite Brits as ek reg onthou is daar 'n laerskool met die naam van De Kroon. Ek vermoed dat dit onder Brits Munisipaliteit val. Moontlik sal die rekords op Brits by die kerk gehou word ek glo nie daar is meer 'n gemeente nie.
Louis Linda & Louis Olivier Pretoria 0128031028 [email protected] [email protected] Olivier, Coetzee, Swart, du Plooy
Boodskap 7. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 09 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Wed Jan 9, 2008 12:01 pm (PST)
Sterfgevalle KEMP, Anton Pieter. 15/09/1962 - 15/12/2007. Gedenkdiens Vrydag 11 Jan 2008 12:00 St. Cuthberts Anglican Church, Westbourneweg (P.E.) (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 09/01/2008)
VERMAAK, Solly. +Saterdag 05 Jan 2008. Kinders, kleinkinders, agterkleinkinders. Begrafnisdiens Donderdag 10 Jan 2008 12:00 NG Kerk Heideveld-gemeente (P.E.) Forest Hill-begraafplaas. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 09/01/2008) Jan Ackerman Algoa Begrafnisdienste 041 484 5748
In Memoriam KETTLEDAS, née TITUS, Brunice. Een jaar oorlede. KETTLEDAS- en TITUS-familie. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 09/01/2008)
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 8a. Re: FOTO BRIXTON BEGRAFPLAAS Posted by: "mathildacdv" [email protected] mathildacdv Wed Jan 9, 2008 12:08 pm (PST)
Wynand, kan jy vir my kyk vir Van Zyl, Murphy en Van der Merwe? Ek haak vas met my pa se stamboom!
Sy pas is iewers in Brixton of Braamfontein begrawe.
Groetnis Mathilda
Boodskap 8b. Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] boerseun_1838 Wed Jan 9, 2008 11:33 pm (PST)
Hi Wynand.
Groot asseblief. As jy weer eendag in die Wespark begrafplaas kom, wil jy nie asseblief kyk vir die volgende 2 grafte nie? Die Van Til vrou was my oupa se suster.
Surname Name Cemetery Grave Number Date of Burial Date Deceased Engelbrecht Hendrina Margaretha West Park 15418 23 June 1982 16 June 1982 Van Til Hendrina Margaretha West Park 8449 26 June 1996 23 June 1996
Ek weet dis eintlik 'n groot guns. Ek was so 2 jaar gelede in die Wespark begrafplaas (my oupa is daar begrawe), en het gesien hoe moeilik dit is om 'n graf op te spoor - selfs al het jy die grafnommer.
Groete.
Louis Engelbrecht
Boodskap 9. CALITZDORP Lidmaatregister 1873 - 1914 (D - K) Posted by: "Francois Greeff" [email protected] Wed Jan 9, 2008 12:31 pm (PST)
Die tweede deel van die Calitzdorp Lidmaatregister, 1873 - 1914, (D - K), is nou beskikbaar om in Excel formaat afgelaai te word. Om dit te doen, klik net op die skakel: http://www.onsfamilie.info/calitzdorpngklede.php
Met groot dank aan Alta le Roux vir al die tyd, moeite en werk wat sy belê het om hierdie inligting so vrygewiglik vir almal beskikbaar te maak. Groete, Francois Greeff ______Om by ons Greeff kuiernet ('n epos netwerk) aan te sluit, stuur asseblief 'n epos aan [email protected], met net die enkele woord, subscribe, as onderwerp en as inhoud.
Greeff Familie Webblad: www.Greeff.info
36 Aston Road London SW20 8BE United Kingdom of Great Britain
0044 20 8543 6966 (Home) or 020 8543 6966 0044 79 6372 2345 (Mobile) or 079 6372 2345 Skype: Greefffrancois
Boodskap 10. BOSSERT/EAGAR Posted by: "Johan Brink" [email protected] Wed Jan 9, 2008 12:37 pm (PST)
Hi Chris,
Hiermee twee kort stukkies vir jou BOSSERT-navorsing. Bevestig asb of die info korrek is en of jy meer info oor die betrokke EAGAR's het.
1. Edward Blennerhasset EAGAR *Ierland/Engeland (?) ca.1800 +(74jr) Kaapstad - .10.1874 [Cape Argus dd 22.10.1874] x spes lis Anglk K Kaapstad 4.3.1822 Johanna Catharina BOSSERT [CO 4572, p8] (ex BOSCHER/ BOSCHERT) *(?) +Kaapstad 6.7.1878 [Eagar Boek, p112; and Internet Roots Web.com] , 6s 3d
{Volgens Malherbe, p104 was sy dalk die dv Christiaan en (ii) Johanna Catharina née BRITS}
2. Robert [Charles ?] EAGAR *ca 1804 x spes lis 24.6.1826 Hendrina Christina FOCK =Luth K 9.6.1811, dv stamvader Daniel Andreas en Johanna Catharina née BOSSERT née BRITS, wed v Christiaan BOSSERT [Deel 2, D-G, p321 en vlgs Malherbe, p313; CO 4572, p18; Eagar Boek, p113] , 3s 2d
Groete
Johan Brink Vermont, Hermanus [BRINK, EAGAR/EAGER, (VON) DURING]
Boodskap 11. Eeuw van Onrecht / Jan smuts Posted by: "BD Leach" [email protected] bdleach19490515 Wed Jan 9, 2008 2:07 pm (PST)
Beste lede,
Onlangs was daar op die lys bespiegelinge oor die outeurskap van die publikasie " Eeuw van Onrecht" wat onder Staatsekretaris F.W. Reitz se naam uitgegee is maar wyd aan Jan Smuts toegedig is.
In sy boek - Wie is die Skuldiges - Afrikaanse Pers 1956, gee Harm Oost 'n uittreksel van 'n brief wat Jan Smuts op 16 Des. 1901 aan Pres. F.W. Reitz geskryf het
"...... Ik zal breedvoerige rapporten naar Europa zenden over den geheelen loop en tegenwoordigen toestand onzer zaak welke de deputatie aan den president (Kruger) kan mededeelen. Ook heb ik een pamflet geschreven hetwelk min of meer een opvolg is op de " Eeuw van Onrecht" en bedoeld is de wereld op hoogte te brengen van de krijgspolitiek van Engeland in Zuid Afrika, en de gevolge daarvan...... "
Oost skryf dat dit sover bekend die enigste keer is wat Smuts, hoewel indirek, vaderskap van Eeuw van Onrecht erken het. Later jare het hy altyd baie onwykend geantwoord as hy daarom uitgevra is. Hy (Oost) sê ook dat dit nie bekend is wat van die genoemde opvolg skrywe van Eeuw van Onrecht geword het nie. groete, barend leach
Boodskap 12a. re Voorouers Posted by: "Petrus Schoeman" [email protected] petrusschoeman Wed Jan 9, 2008 8:10 pm (PST)
Hallo liewe genote,
Welkom terug van u uitputtende vakansie.
Ek vermoed dat u nou voor u rekenaars gaan ontspan, geniet dit.
Ek vermoed ook dat meeste van u nooit daarby gekom het om my kersgeskenk aan te stuur nie, want ek het niks ontvang nie (:<((.
Toemaar ek is nie te erg ontstel daaroor nie, maar data aangaande die Maartens familie uit u databasisse sal met groot dank, in ruil aanvaar word (;<)).
Ek moet nou aanvaar dat dit nie 'n prominente familie was nie, slegs hier en daar 'n veldkornet en dalkies een kommandant en uiteindelik 'n landdros wat hulle tussen hulle tydgenote onderskei het.
Groete Petrus van Majuba
Boodskap 12b. MAARTENS - vir Petrus Schoeman Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Wed Jan 9, 2008 8:17 pm (PST)
Hallo Petrus,
EK moet hol, maar moet noem dat ek heelwat MAARTENS in die NONGQAI teegekom het. Kon net die klokkie laat lui oor wie dit gesoek het nie. Met die verandering in die 'subject' lyn gaan ek jou nou maklik opspoor.
Dalkies moet die ander lyslede die ingedagte hou.
Veral waar die navrae ook `n van is. Sit die VAN eerste in hoofletters. Wanneer mens dan die INBOX in 'subject' sorteer kry jy dadelik dit wat jy soek. Geniet die dag almal.
Groetnis uit `n heerlike 'kieza' reëntjie Pretoria. Annelie
Boodskap 13. HAJENIUS Posted by: "Marlene S" [email protected] marlsas111 Wed Jan 9, 2008 9:18 pm (PST)
HAJENIUS - Afstammelinge van die tabak en sigaar winkel eienaar PGC Hajenius ('Het Huis Hajenius' in Rokin straat, Amsterdam)
HAJENIUS 'e is skaars in Suid Afrika en ek is op soek na enige iemand met wie ek kan informasie uitruil oor Jan Willem Hajenius (1836 - 1869) en sy mense.
Hy was die seun van PGC Hajenius en het met die Prins Hendrik der Nederlanden skip in 1856 na Suid Afrika gekom. Hy is vermoedelik die pa van Margaretha Magdalena Maria Roux, gebore Hajenius (1861 - 1941)
Enige HAJENIUS informasie? Laat my asseblief weet.
Thanks,
Marlene, Wellington New Zealand http://marlsa.tribalpages.com GEERE, GEERTSEMA, SIMPSON and ROUX
Boodskap 14. [Koerant] The Mercury Woensdag 9 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Wed Jan 9, 2008 9:54 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:- " I would rather regret the things I have done than regret the things I have not done. " Lucille BALL.
GEBOORTES:- geen
VERJAARSDAG:- HOLLINGS 9/01/08 60 jaar oud Pa. Van Wade, Cary , Bryce,Joshua, Cassidy en Matthew.
VERLOWING:- BEHM - STANDER Eddie & Merle se seun Shaun aan Michelle.
CARR Bruce & Vicki se jongste dogter Samantha aan Calvin, oudste seun van Donald & Sarett THOMPSON.
PRINGLE - BOSHOFF Mitch & Trevor. Geluk van Tony & Lindi.
DOOD:- BEGGS Louisa Alice †7/01/2008 . Nou saam met man en kinders. Suster van Moira, Nancy en Anne. Memorial by Christ Church Pinetown om 2.30nm op 11/01/2008 Verassing privaat.
BLISS Harold .†07/01/2008 x Anne. " A special person who contributed so much to Kinesiology." Simpatie aan Anne en familie. Van ASKSA -KZN.
COUSSON Yvonne (69). "French Chef & restauranteur " by Ramsgate is vemoor. Eienares van La Petite Normandie. Vermoede dit was Sondagaand.
COCKROFT Darryl Vaughan 24/09/1961 ------07/01/2008 . Seun van Barbara en Aubrey, Donovan, Clive & Penny, en Eric & Charlene. Lewensmaat van Donovan PILLAY Memorial by Umbilo Park Umbilo op 11.01/2008 om 11vm.
DAVID Logan †07/01/2008 . Begrafnis 9/01/2008 om 9.30 vm by 36 Bottlebrush Crescent, Lotus Park . Daarna na Lotus Park Gemeenskaps Saal vanaf 11vm --1330 nm. Daarna na Mobeni Heights Krematorium vir verassing seremonie om 2.30.nm TEL:- 031 9025554.
ELLIS BROWN Joyce †5/01/2008. Skoonsuster en tannie van Norma, Mark, Sean, Claire, Tessa, en ELLIS BROWN familie; Shirley, Peter, Jane, Timothy en Jemima; Oscar, Claire, Luke en Hannah.; Brian , David, en Molly, John en Piet, Robin en Val, Kenneth en Ester, Wendy, Peter en Joan.
GOLDSWAIN Henry Stanley †5/01/2008 x June .Pa van Lynette en Peter, Jennifer en Bugs,. Oupa en oupagroot . Memorial by Upper Umgeni Presbyterian Church Howick 11/01/2008 om 14.30 nm . Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH PMB. 0333426116.
HOUSTON Cecil †8/01/2008 . Man ,pa, oupa en oupagroot.
LYN ENGELA (voorheen MULLER nee REID) . Ma van Paula, David en Caroline, Skoonma van Ginny. Ouma van Candice, Branden en Sean. Verassing privaat
MCDONALD Valerie †27/12/2007 .Memorial by Glenridge Church NMR Ave op 14/01/2008 om 14.30 nm. Daarna na die McDONALDS se plek in La Lucia.
McKEON Bruce Fraser 24/09/1943--08/01/2008 . Pa, oupa, broer en oom. Begrafnis by DOVES Greyville op 11/01/2008 om 3 nm. Verassing privaat. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
MUIR Kim . Memorial by Baptiste Kerk Margate op 12/01/2008 om 11 vm.
NIGHTINGALE nee WALTERS Shirley x †Allan . Ma van Janet, Margaret, Andrew, Charles, David en †John . Skoonma van Paul, Janet, Linda en Kim. Ouma van Bradley, Justin, Samantha, Amy, Emily, Travis en Granny's Secret.
SIMPSON Yvonne †26/12/2007 (voorheen van Greytown, Scottburgh en KZN. ) in JHB. Gemis deur John, Nevys en meisies , Risé, Val en Alex.
TILL Doris Pearl 04/05/1922 ------05/01/2008 .Ma van Tommy en Lorna, Fred en †Faith. Ouma van Gregory en Pauline, Monique en Wayne. Oumagroot van Daine en Alexandra. Memorial by The Altersheim Port Natal Retirement Home New Germany. op 10/01/2008 om 2nm.
MEMORIAM:- EHLERS Lawrence x Kath ,pa van Jade. 1 jaar dood nou.
EVA Kenneth Lionel †09/01/2007 -grusaam vermoor-. van Wil, Daph, Wynston en Jean.
JOHNSON Debbie †9/01/1977. Dogter en suster . Onthou deur ouers, Mark, Clinton en families.
LEE Marlene . 10 jaar dood nou. Geliefde vrou en ma . Van Clive, Neville, Anita en families.
OLIVIER Dawn Gloria 03/10/1952 ------09/01/1998 x Mike.
Gegroet uit Durban waar dit heerlik koel is vannaand. Rita Q.
Boodskap 15a. Finale rusplek van Theron Stamvader in Suid-Afrika Posted by: "Drikus Theron" [email protected] drikus.theron Wed Jan 9, 2008 9:57 pm (PST)
More almal,
Dit is 'n vragie wat ek al 'n hele tyd oor wonder. Waar is die graf en finale rusplek van Jacques Therond?
Sal dit op sy eerste plaas wees? Ek het so paar maande terug raak gelees dat sy eerste plaas Le Rhone was. Ek het egter daarna geen inligting van die plaas opgespoor nie. Ek het per toeval op die plaas afgekom middel laas jaar. Ek het vir my werkgewer 'n aflewering gaan maak by Boschendal landgoed naby Stellenbosch en daar het ek die naam Le Rhone op die bordjie van die Plaashuis gesien wat aan die regterkant van die Boschendal ingang sit. Jy ry eers verby 'n wingerd aan jou regterkent en dan maak die pad 'n draai na lings waarna die plaashuis voor jou is.
Is dit dieselfde plaas waarvan ek gelees het en is dit die plaas waarop ons Theron stamvader ter ruste gele was of was hy in 'n dorpsbegrafplaas begrawe?
Enige hulp sal waardeer word.
Met dank en in afwagting,
Drikus Theron
Boodskap 15b. Re: Finale rusplek van Theron Stamvader in Suid-Afrika Posted by: "Dawie Theron" [email protected] Wed Jan 9, 2008 10:33 pm (PST)
Drikus
Die plaas Le Rhone waarna verwys word is in Tulbagh. Soos jy ry met die Hermon pad na Tulbagh toe en jy draai links af na Tulbagh sal jy die plaas kry op linkerkant. Die Therons (Stamvader en seuns Pierre en Jaques) is begrawe in Tulbagh sover ek weet. Ek het die grafte gesien van Jaques en Pierre (dit is in die ou begraafplaas van die skeurkerk net buite Tulbagh.) Ek het nie baie gesoek nie maar ek vermoed die stamvader is ook daar of dalk by die ou kerkbegraafplaas in Tulbagh se Kerkstraat.
Dawie Theron [email protected] P.O. Box 899 Wellington 7654 RSA Tel: +27 21 873 2645 Fax: +27 21 873 5370 Mobile: +27 82 893 2270
Boodskap 16. (Koerant) Beeld 10 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Wed Jan 9, 2008 10:26 pm (PST)
BLIGNAUT; Jakob Petrus (76), in lewe van Rayton, Pretoria. Verassingsdiens: AVBOB Kapel, 11/01/2008, 10:00. (Beeld - 10/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Oos, 012-460-3745.
CLAASEN; Silenta + 05/01/2008. Verassingsdiens: 14/01/2008, 10:00. Sal onthou word deur haar eggenoot Tommie, moeder van Stefan en Neil. Kontak: Stefan by 082-453-1746. (Beeld - 10/01/2008)
SCHLEBUSCH; {sy Edele} Alwyn Louis (90) + Netcare Pretoria-Oos hospitaal, 07/01/2008, Oud- Vise-Staatspresident. Begrafnisdiens: NG Kerk, Kroonstad-Noord, Vrystaat provinsie, 11/01/2008, 11:00. Kontak: {Mnr} Ken TERRY van die presidensie by 082-579-3763. Sal onthou word deur sy kinders en gades, veertien kleinkinders en vyf agterkleinkinders. (Foto met berig). (Beeld - 09/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Oos, 012-460-3745.
VAN GRAAN; Johannes Gerhardus, in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: NG Kerk, Onderstepoort, Pretoria, 11/01/2008, 09:30 # Heatherdale Begraafplaas, Britsweg, Pretoria-Noord. (Beeld - 10/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 17. SS Zuiderkruis 28 July 1958 Kaapstad/ Cape Town Posted by: "Gerda gmail" [email protected] g_pieterse Wed Jan 9, 2008 10:33 pm (PST)
Beste lyslede,
Ons is op soek na alle mense wat op 28 Julie 1958 van die SS 'Zuiderkruis' (Holland- Afrika Lijn) in Kaapstad aan wal gestap het, met die oog op 'n 'halfeeu' viering.
As julle eks-Nederlanders ken, vra hulle asb wanneer hulle gearriveer het. Die meeste sal graag daaroor uitwei..
'n Vriendin en ek was onderskeidelik drie en sewe jaar oud toe ons hier aangkom het. Ons het vyf jaar gelede toevallig ontmoet en sedertdien die herdenking van die okkasie gevier.
Dankie!
Gerda Pieterse-Waanders [email protected] ------Dear List members
We are looking for people who disembarked from the SS Zuiderkruis (Holland-Afrika Lijn) in Cape Town on 28 July 1958, with the idea of having a small celebration of our Half Century mark.
If you know any expat Dutch folks please ask them when they arrived in the country. Most are happy to discuss!
We, a friend and myself, were three and seven years old respectively, when we arrived. We met again five years ago and have taken the time to celebrate the anniversary of the event ever since.
Thanks!
Gerda Pieterse-Waanders [email protected] Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3054
Datum: Thu Jan 10, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: CALITZDORP Lidmaatregister 1873 - 1914 From: Kobus Spamer
1b. CALITZDORP Lidmaatregister 1873 - 1914 From: alta le roux
2. BRITS x JANSE VAN RENSBURG + ESTERHUIZEN voorouers asb. From: [email protected]
3a. Re: HAJENIUS From: David Jamieson
4a. Re: Kwartierstaat van Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, gebore 6 Jule 1849 From: Peet Victor
5a. MAARTENS From: Johan Brink
6a. Re: MAARTENS - vir Petrus Schoeman From: [email protected]
6b. MAARTENS - vir Richard van Zijl From: Annelie Els
7a. Eeuw van Onrecht / Jan smuts From: Stephan Botha
8. Alwyn Schlebusch From: Dennis Laptop
9. Re: Griesel webblad From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
10. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 10 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
11. Re: Eeuw van Onrecht / Jan Smuts From: Johann Ahlers
12a. Re: Pienaar en Pieters From: Ben Cilliers
13a. Re: Doopinskrywings Hervormde kerk Zoutpansberg From: Hendrik van Putten
14a. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie From: Hendrik van Putten
15a. Re: HULP MET BADENHORST ASB From: Verna Fourie
16. Botha-Bezuidenhout From: mathildacdv
17. Van RENSBURG x H.H. Du PLOOY (106Jr) From: Simon du Plooy
18a. Re: Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand From: Wynand Bezuidenhout
18b. WYNAND - Ogies grafte From: Annelie Els
19. Van RENSBURG x H.H. Du PLOOY (106Jr)- HERSTEL bron! From: Simon du Plooy
20. [Koerant] The Mercury Donderdag 10 Januarie 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
21a. Begrafnisbriewe From: Fanie Blignaut
22. (no subject) From: (no author) Boodskap 1a. Re: CALITZDORP Lidmaatregister 1873 - 1914 Posted by: "Kobus Spamer" [email protected] Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:33 am (PST)
Dik
Baie dankie vir die interresante inligting ivm die Van der Merwe's
Boodskap 1b. CALITZDORP Lidmaatregister 1873 - 1914 Posted by: "alta le roux" [email protected] Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:08 am (PST)
Indien daar iemand is wat die register aangevra het en dit nog nie ontvang het nie - ek het die afgelope paar dae 'n probleem met my internet gehad. Ek het dit reeds gestuur aan almal wat dit versoek het, maar dis moontlik dat ek nie al die boodskappe ontvang het nie.
Vra dit asseblief weer aan as u nog niks van my gehoor het nie.
Alta le Roux [email protected] Posbus 1138, OUDTSHOORN, 6620 Tel. 083 996 0676 / 044 272 2271 (h) / 044 272 3676 (w)
Boodskap 2. BRITS x JANSE VAN RENSBURG + ESTERHUIZEN voorouers asb. Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] loogkolk Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:38 am (PST)
Enige lid wat kan help met die BRITS voorsate, sowel as Andries Johannes Hendrik ESTERHUIZEN s’n asb.
Groete
Hendrik LOUW
082 722 6500
Rudolph Marthinus BRITS ca? __.__.1837 x Bloemfontein 28.06.1858 Hendrina Maria JANSE VAN RENSBURG (d.v. Johannes Lodewyk JANSE VAN RENSBURG & ?Johanna Susanna Sophia JACOBS) * ca __.__.1842 b1 Dina Carolina BRITS * ca Bloemfontein __.10.1868 † Syferfontein, distr. Klerksdorp 18.11.1937 x Hoopstad Andries Johannes Hendrik ESTERHUIZEN ?ca __.03.1867 † Syferfontein, distr. Klerksdorp 1?y'~'^??{^?~zv+v?+r!ka{&y]kbZgN %j)+Z {^- zf)z-r?]h
Boodskap 3a. Re: HAJENIUS Posted by: "David Jamieson" [email protected] davidkjamieson Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:39 am (PST)
Goeiemore Marlene,
Volgens die inligting op my groot ouma en oupa se trou dokumente in 1863 was daar twee getuies : J.W.Hajenius en C.H.Niehaus.
Die inligting wat ek het is soos volg :
Michiel Christiaan Horn en Louisa Jacoba ( gebore van Rensburg ) getroud op Bloemfontein op 1 Junie 1863. Hulle was albei 20 jaar oud.
Volgens jou inligting mag dit een en dieselfde persoon wees wat homself op Bloemfontein op die ouderdom van 27 jaar ( in 1863 ) homself daar bevestig het en hy mag 'n vriend van die familie gewees het.
Maar min informasie maar ek hoop dit sal van hulp wees.
Groete uit 'n koelerige Skotland.
David Jamieson Montrose Angus
Boodskap 4a. Re: Kwartierstaat van Gerrit Jacobus van NIEKERK, gebore 6 Jule 1849 Posted by: "Peet Victor" [email protected] Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:51 am (PST)
Dag Cornel en lyslede,
Ek is op soek na die voorsate van Johanna Christina Van Wyk,geb. 14/5/1881 gtroud met Theodorus Ernst van Niekerk geb. 4/8/58, d11/12/1899, Magersfontein asook die voorsate van Margaretha Maria Spies, tr. 6/10/1805 met Johannes Wilhelmus van niekerk geb26/5/1780.
Kan iemand help?
Boodskap 5a. MAARTENS Posted by: "Johan Brink" [email protected] Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:51 am (PST)
Petrus,
Kan jy help? Ek sal graag besonderhede oor die MAARTENS hieronder, wil hê!
Amora BRINK*Jagersfontein 7.1.1950, jongste dv David Stephanus, prospktrdr/mynwkr en boer "De Put", Edenburg en Hester Josina née VAN DER WALT [vlgs V/d Walt- boek, p359] x PN MAARTENS [vlgs D.S. se SK]
Groete,
Johan Brink Vermont, Hermanus [BRINK, EAGAR/EAGER, (VON) DURING]
Boodskap 6a. Re: MAARTENS - vir Petrus Schoeman Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] rvanzijl Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:53 am (PST)
Hallo Annelie
Ek is op soek na Martha Johanna Maartens (my groot ouma Grootjie) - sy het met Frederik Adriaan Albertus van Jaarsveld getrou en het in die Maclear/Rhodes/Barkly Oos/Embokotwa omgewing gewoon.
Enige Maartens informasie wwarmee jy kan help sal baie gewaardeer word
Groete
Richard van Zijl
Boodskap 6b. MAARTENS - vir Richard van Zijl Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:42 am (PST)
Hallo Richard,
Idien oupa Frederik `n polisieman was en dit was na 1907 sou hulle dalk in die NONGQAI voorkom.
Ek doen nie navorsing oor die MAARTENS nie. Dit was maar a.g.v. `n versoek epos wat ek op die uitkyk daarvoor was.
Jammer. Groetnis Annelie.
Boodskap 7a. Eeuw van Onrecht / Jan smuts Posted by: "Stephan Botha" [email protected] gsbotha Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:55 am (PST)
In die boek JAN CHRISTIAN SMUTS BY HIS SON J.C. SMUTS (1952) stel sy seun dit as 'n feit dat sy pa wel die stuk geskryf het. Die volgende staan op p.47:
"There now appeared a Boer manifesto entitled Century of Wrong. It was an exhortation to the people on the eve of battle, listing the wrongs perpetrated by the British in South Africa during the past hundred years. It was written by my father in High Dutch, from facts he and Jimmie Roos had collected. The language was said by experts to be superb Netherlands and it abounded in classical idiom. My mother translated it into English. As the manifesto appeared over no name and as it was published by State Secretary Reitz, he was at first thought to be the author.
It is said that in after years my father was ashamed of this hot-headed little manifesto. That is not so, for how can exception be taken to it if the purpose of this document is taken into account. True, he never spoke about it, but that was because he was sick of the political use that was made of it, and of having its anti-English quotations cast at him. It was simply a shrill, clear bugle-call to the nation, and it is unfair to quote it out of its context or historic setting."
Baie groete Stephan Botha Klerksdorp
Boodskap 8. Alwyn Schlebusch Posted by: "Dennis Laptop" [email protected] dennis_pretorius Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:30 am (PST)
Hallo Fanie dankie vir hierdie kennisgewing - veral die deel van Alwyn Schlebusch
Ek het gou gekyk in die e-SAGI databasis van Wes Gauteng GGSA en sien Lucas het hom reeds in die databasis maar daar word geen kinders vermeld nie.
Weet iemand dalk meer van sy kinders >
Groetnis Dennis Pretorius, Krugersdorp, South Africa/Suid Afrika Executive Member of GSSA / Uitvoerende Lid van GGSA Genealogical Researcher/Genealogiese Navorser Owner of SAGenealogy E-mail list/Lyseienaar - SAGenealogie poslys E-Mail/E-pos: [email protected] Web address/Webadres: http://mzone.mweb.co.za/residents/k75/genealogy.html Telephone/Telefoon: +27-83-679-8541 Fax/Faks +27-86-609-8541
----- Original Message ----- From: Fanie Blignaut To: !!SA-Gen ; !!Buitenposten Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:25 AM Subject: [SA-Gen] (Koerant) Beeld 10 Jan. 2008
SCHLEBUSCH; {sy Edele} Alwyn Louis (90) + Netcare Pretoria-Oos hospitaal, 07/01/2008, Oud- Vise-Staatspresident. Begrafnisdiens: NG Kerk, Kroonstad-Noord, Vrystaat provinsie, 11/01/2008, 11:00. Kontak: {Mnr} Ken TERRY van die presidensie by 082-579-3763. Sal onthou word deur sy kinders en gades, veertien kleinkinders en vyf agterkleinkinders. (Foto met berig). (Beeld - 09/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Oos, 012-460-3745.
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 9. Re: Griesel webblad Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:51 am (PST)
Hallo Elmien
Jammer ek antwoord nou eers; ons had beurtkrag vanoggend Moes eers 'n klomp ander take verrig en het inderhaas pannekoek gebak vir my huismense want dit reën een strook deur en is sommer koud.
Johannes David Grootschel van Kopenhage www.grootschel.co.za/grootschel.htm - 36k - en ook http://www.dieknoop.co.za onder die subhoof "Families" is daar ook "Griesel" (onder die hoof Genealogie & Familiebladsye) http://www.griesel.co.za/ Die ene het die wapen by. Die familieregister blyk dieselfde te wees as bogenoemde so op die oog af.
Boodskap 10. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 10 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:12 am (PST)
Sterfgevalle MOSTERT, Petrus Johan (Piet). *08/08/1953. +Sondag 06 Jan 2008. Vrou Cillie, kinders Charmaine, Osborne, skoonseun Andries. Diens Vrydag 11 Jan 2008 11:00 NG Kerk De Duin- gemeente, Forest Hill. Verassing privaat. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 10/01/2008) Journey's End Begrafnisdienste 041 484 1464
OLKERS, Gertruida Elizabeth. +Dinsdag 08 Jan 2008. Kinders, kleinkinders, agterkleinkind. Begrafnisdiens Vrydag 11 Jan 2008 10:00 NG Kerk Hoogland-gemeente. Forest Hill- gemeente. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 10/01/2008) Jan Ackerman, Algoa Begrafnisdienste 041 484 5748
(2 berigte) SIEBERT, Nellie. Oorlede. Kinders en kleinkind Neels, Hettie en Anton SIEBERT. Kleinkinders en agterkleinkinders David, Cornelia, John David en Caitlyn Sianna BIGGE. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 10/01/2008)
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 11. Re: Eeuw van Onrecht / Jan Smuts Posted by: "Johann Ahlers" [email protected] jahlers1 Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:56 am (PST)
Beste Lyslede,
Na aanleiding van die gesprek oor die moontlike skrywer van hierdie dokument, het ek by Colin Pretorius daaroor navraag gedoen (hy versprei tans die Engelse e-weergawe van hierdie dokument). Sy antwoord hierby ingesluit.
Vriendelike groete, Johann Ahlers Pretoria
------Forwarded message ------From: Colin Pretorius
Een Eeuw van Onrecht uitgevaardigd door
F.W. Reitz
Die bewoording is belangrik, want in die inleiding (deur Dr HJ Kiewiet de Jonge) word die volgende gesê:
"In ons land is de eerste oplaag in zeer korten tijd uitverkocht. De tweede geeft miy gelegenheid mij juister uit te drukken omtrent den oorsprong. Ten onrechte heb ik den Staatssecretaris Reitz als den schrywer aangewezen, met erkenning evenwel dat uiterlijke en innerlijke bewijzen pleitten voor den Staatsprocureur Smuts. Thans mag ik niet verder gaan dan de mededeeling dat het stuk is *uitgevaardigd* door den Heer Reitz"
Jy's welkom om bostaande aan Barend of die lys te pos, as jy dink dit kan bydra tot die gesprek
groete
colin
Boodskap 12a. Re: Pienaar en Pieters Posted by: "Ben Cilliers" [email protected] Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:43 am (PST)
Hello Alta
Ek sien nie dat iemand al op jou vraag geantwoord het nie.
Geen Matthys Petrus PIENAAR verskayn in die PIENAAR-boek nie.
Ben C
Boodskap 13a. Re: Doopinskrywings Hervormde kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Hendrik van Putten" [email protected] hendrikvanputten Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:23 am (PST)
Peet en Mari Mostert
Kan julle my vertel hoe ek by die Hervormde kerk argief kan uitkom. Ek is op soek na enige info ivm my vader en moeder wat beide hervormers was. Baie dankie.
Hendrik van Putten
Boodskap 14a. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie Posted by: "Hendrik van Putten" [email protected] hendrikvanputten Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:23 am (PST)
Ek ken ?n Margaret Bossert wat getroud was met ?n Bossert wat onderwyser was te Bekker Hoëeskool Magaliesburg. As jy wil hê dat ek haar kontak besonderhede moet kry laat weet my net.
Groete,
Hendrik van Putten
Boodskap 15a. Re: HULP MET BADENHORST ASB Posted by: "Verna Fourie" [email protected] verna.fourie Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:24 am (PST)
Hi Annelie,
Baie dankie hiervoor. Ek probeer bietjie 'n paar van die lost stukkies vasmaak, en hierdie is een van hulle. Pamela Edna, was my pa se suster. Ek sal moet hoor of haar seun dalk kan help.
Groete, Verna
Boodskap 16. Botha-Bezuidenhout Posted by: "mathildacdv" [email protected] mathildacdv Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:56 am (PST)
Naand Lyslede,
Ek kort nog net een leidraad om (hopelik) my Botha navorsing (skoonma se moeder se voorouers) aan die Botha lyn te kan heg.
My inligting is as volg:
Christoffel Jacobus Bezuidenhout is getroud met Anna Catharina Maria Botha (skoonma is na haar vernoem). Geen datums nie. Dit is direkte inligting uit die monde van skoonma en die familie.
As oupa - Petrus Christiaan Bezuidenhou - na sy oupa aan moederskant vernoem is, dan soek ek vir Petrus Christiaan Botha - SK TAB2923. Sy ouers is dan Philip Rudolph Botha en Anna Catharina Maria Coetzee. Hulle het 'n dogter Anna Catharina Maria Botha en sy is ongeveer 1876 gebore (Botha Webblad)
En dis nou net hier waar ek met my navorsing vashaak.
Enige verdere navraag by NAAIRS is op hierdie stadium vrugteloos. Kan die ander Botha navorsers dalk help?
Groetnis Mathilda de Villiers
Boodskap 17. Van RENSBURG x H.H. Du PLOOY (106Jr) Posted by: "Simon du Plooy" [email protected] sjdp1951 Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:51 pm (PST)
Goeienaand uit Potch spesiaal aan die VAN RENSBURG navorsers: ook Els, Lowies, Fourie, Pretorius
SAG Bl 184 -Die volgende inskrywing: b3c5d2e2f4 Helena Hendriena [Du Plooy] + Vryburg (106Jr x Van RENSBURG.
Na Heelwat gesoek na meer inligting oor bogemelde egpaar kon ek vandag die gesin voltooi
Helena Hendriena * 30.9.1854 + 24.4.1961 (106Jr) Stella distr Vryburg x Rouxville (NG- Kerk) 24.10.1870 Daniel Theodorus Janse Van RENSBURG Boer Corneliswil Vryburg * ca 1849 K.P. + Corneliswil - Wyk 4- Distr Vryburg Vrydag 9.9.1921 (72 j 1m) "Stockfarmer"
(Dankie aan Johan Pottas wie die huwelik in Rouxville se H-Register opgespoor het wat tot die gesin se "ontknoping" gelei het]
Hulle kinders was: b1 Marthinus Philipus * 11.7.1871 = 15.10.1871 Rouxville NG b2 Gertruida Magdalena * 15.1.1873 = 20.7.1873 Rouxville NG x S.P. Els b3 Agatha Catharina x S.Z. Lowies b4 Petrus Johannes b5 Daniel Theodorus b6 Helena Hendriena Zusanna x Willem Fourie b7 Johanna Elizabeth x M.J. Pretorius b8 Maria Magdalena x Joh. C Pretorius b9 Johannes Theodorus b10 Jacobus Johannes
Ek sal die kinders se ontbrekende inligting (datums en huwelike) graag wil bekom asook haar egg Daniel se ouers.
In SAG 9 Bl 329 (b1c5d7e5 f10) is Daniel Theodorus Jacobus * 14.7.1848 = Cradock 25.12.1848 wat geoordeel aan sy ouers Marthinus Philippus x Agatha Catharina POTGIETER sowel as sy broers en susters se name 'n sterk kandidaat as Helena Hendriena se eggenoot kan wees
Enige brokkie inligting om die familie volledig te kry sal met dankbaarheid ontvang word.
(Van Rensburg inligting in KAB MOOC 1/1/365 - R8/826 maar vir Helena Hendrina geen boedeldokumente -inligting uit Vryburg sterfregisters in die KAB)
Groete,
Simon.
Boodskap 18a. Re: Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand Posted by: "Wynand Bezuidenhout" [email protected] wynbez Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:48 pm (PST)
Hello Louis en medelede,
Dis doodreg so. Ek sal bietjie uitkyk as ek weer daar uitkom. Ek is huidiglik die laaste paar naweke egter bietjie vas met werk en ander dinge, maar sodra dit weer rustiger gaan, dan maak ek vir jou plan. Ek stem saam dit is moelik om grafte op te spoor daar, maar nie so moeilik soos Braamfontein nie. En sommer so aan alle ander lede. As enige iemand miskien fotos geneem of gaan neem by die Balmoral begrafplaas(hy het 'n ander naam ek kan net nie nou onthou nie) en Witbank, sal julle ook kyk of julle Bezuidenhout grafte kan afneem, groot assamblief? Enige Bezuidenhout graf. Maar dan ook nader aan die hart is ene Matthys Marthinus Bez *Winburg, Vrystaat c.6.12.1849 +op Zuikerboschkop, Bulpan, tussen Witbank en Verena oppad Groblersdal toe. Ek verneem daar was 'n klein begrafplaas by Bulpan en dis waar hy en sy vrou Hester Jacoba Engelbrecht glo begrawe is. Sy is *leeufontein, Verena c.1850 +Zuikerboschkop(plaas reg langs Bulpan, naby die pad 17.4.1917 en hy 6.11.1924. Ek soek daardie grafte al vir baie lank. Ek het selfs al daar rondgery en probeer soek om dit te kry, maar niks gesien nie. Daar is mos baie oopgroef steenkoolmyne, en ek weet nie hoe lank die grafte nog daar sal wees voordat die gronde ook opgedolwe word nie. Ek weet van ander familie aan my ma se kant se plaasgrafte wat in Broodsnyersplaas en omgewing eenvoudig opgedolwe was en die grafte vernietig is. Indien enige iemand miskien op die grafte afgekom het of beter dit reeds afgeneem het, kan julle my asseblief laat weet.
Die ander grafte is Pieter Engenaas Lourens(sy geboortesertifikaat se Petrus Engenatius Laurentius) *Zuikerboschkop 39 21(geregistreer 31).3.1914 +Witbank 11.2.1992 en begrawe nuwe Witbank begrafplaas langs N4 X Catharina Elizabeth DE KLERK *Daspoort, Pretoria 19.11.1919 +Witbank 23.9.1997 ook daar begrawe langs N4. Indien enige iemand daar miskien gaan fotos neem kan julle die spesifiek afneem, maar enige Bezuidenhout graf is welkom by my aangesien ek huidiglik die groter Bezuidenhout geslagsregister probeer bymekaarbring so op datum as wat ek kan. Soos Alta Roux nou- die-dag vir my meedeel, die Bezuidenhouts het omtrent vervuil en om hulle bymekaar te bring in een stamboom is een baie interessante taak. Maar sover het ek nog die stamina daarvoor. O, ja, indien enige iemand die Ogies begrafplaas gaan besoek, as julle ook daar Bezzies kan afneem, ek weet van 'n Wynand Frederik daar en 'n paar ander, maar kom nooit daar uit om self te gaan loer nie. Enige plaasgrafte van Bezuidenhouts is altyd welkom by my, aangesien ek juis weet hoe mens soms soek vir van jou familie wat op plase begrawe is en mens nie weet waar nie.
En sommer nou aan Alta, terwyl ek nou so aan jou dink en van jou praat. Ek is nou-die- dag daar verby jou geweste in Kinross ne, oppad Piet-Retief toe en toe sien ek die begrafplaas is sommer langs die pad. Ek was natuurlik laat vir 'n troue, so ek kon nie stop om te gaan loer nie en selfde met Ermelo se ou Begrafplaas. Hy is ook langs die pad. Indien enige iemand daar so gaaf sal wees om fotos te neem van die Bezuidenhouts daar. Soos ek se enige bezuidenhout op die stadium is vir my belangrik, aangesien so baie van hulle ongeplaas is en die grafstene help om die legkaart verder in te vul en ook om te wys waar die persone tot ruste gele is.
Ja, jammer hoor, as ek julle verveel met my stokpertjie deesdae, maar ek glo meeste van julle simpatiseer met my in die opsig. Terloops ek het fotos van al die Bezuidenhouts in Piet Retief, Middelburg, Braamfontein, Alberton-Noord en Kromvlei, naby Brackendowns, Alberton se begrafplase indien iemand belang sou stel en ek sal dit met graagte laai of laat laai op Eggsa se aflaai begrafplaasfotoswebtuiste of Fotki, as ek net weet hoe of indien ek dit nie self kan doen nie, die persoon wat dit doen of weet hoe.
Groete Wynand Bezuidenhout
Boodskap 18b. WYNAND - Ogies grafte Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:41 pm (PST)
Hallo Wynand,
Ek en Paul kon nog nie die 'regte' begraafplaas in Ogies opspoor nie. Daar is een reg langs die pad wanneer mens uit Ogies in Bethal se rigting ry maar dit bevat net nieblank grafte.
Wanneer mens op daardie pad ry vra jy mooi vir AL Liewe Jesus se Beskerm Engele om die kar te 'dra'. Jou kar gaan beslis in een van die slaggate van die aardbol af 'verdwyn'.
Die pad is vanaf Bethal tot by Kriel in `n rybare toestand maar van Kriel, oor Ogies na die N4 snelweg is dit net slaggat op slaggat. Jy moet letterlik op die grond langs die 'teerpad' ry.
Indien iemand dalk `n ideë het of daar `n ander begrafplaas in Ogies is en waar hy is dan sal dit help. Mens wil regtig nie daardie pad ry net om te gaan soek nie. Net een keer reguit na die begrafplaas en dan Bethal toe. Wat die fotos van die ander begrafplase betref. eGGSA se persoon om die kontak is Alta Griffiths. Sy ontvang die CD/DVD`s en laai dit op die webwerf.
Daar is `n ooreenkoms tussen eGGSA en FOTKI wat die graffotos betref.
Groetnis Annelie Pretoria.
Boodskap 19. Van RENSBURG x H.H. Du PLOOY (106Jr)- HERSTEL bron! Posted by: "Simon du Plooy" [email protected] sjdp1951 Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:08 pm (PST)
In gisteraand se brief oor die egpaar "b3c5d2e2f4 Helena Hendriena [Du Plooy] + Vryburg (106Jr x Van RENSBURG."
Het ek die bron aangegee as: (Van Rensburg inligting in KAB MOOC 1/1/365 - R8/826) MAAR MOOC is foutief! - Die bron is KAB:MOK 1/1/365 - R8/826
Jammer hieroor Groete,
Simon.
Boodskap 20. [Koerant] The Mercury Donderdag 10 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:54 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:- " I laugh. I live, I hope, I try,I hurt, I need ,I fear, I cry. And I know you do the same things too so we're really not that different, me and you. " Colin RAYE.
THE BOTTOM LINE:- "Patience is the ability to idle your motor when you feel like stripping your gears. " Barbara JOHNSON.
GEBOORTES:- GROBBELAAR Tammy & Brian 'n seun Joshua Trent * 7/01/2008 in Parklands Hospitaal. Boetie vir Emma Rose.
MILNE nee CHICK Daryl & Susan 'n dogter Hannah Jacqueline * 27/12/2007 in Westville Hospitaal. Suster vir Caitlyn. Kleinkind vir Laurie & Jacquie MILNE en Keith & Heather CHICK.
WILLETT David & Christel 'n seun James David * 8/01/2008 in Parklands.
VERLOWINGS:- CLARK Alan & Angela se seun Shane aan Monika ,enigste dogter van Fred & Diane ZURCHER.
COOK Pete & Angela se dogter Amy aan Stephen, seun van Andy & Megan GRANT van Mposa.
COOMBES -THERON Mally & Bev se jongste dogter Sheri aan Corne, seun van Mimi & Stan.
OTTO / TERBLANCE John & Yvonne se seun Christopher aan Jo-Anne, dogter van John & Quanita RILEY.
SCHIJF- LOGIE Cassandra & Kendal maak verlowing bekend van Shauna (Porky), dogter van † Mandy & Adrian SCHIJF aan Travis (Golden Ball) , seun van Jacqui en Lal JAYAMAHA en Pete LOGIE.
HUWELIK:- PERRY Shel & Charmaine se seun Brandon x 5/01/2008 Kirstie, dogter van Nikki & Shannon PARENT .
DOOD:- FOSTER Desmond † 6/01/2008 Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
DE VILLIERS June . † 4/01/2008 by Highway Hospice. Ma ,ouma en suster. Memorial by The Holy Trinity Anglikaanse Kerk Hillcrest 16/01/2008 om 2nm. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
GABRIEL Theresa Anne van Austerville. Ma van Charmaine, Valerie en Revella. Ouma van Janelle, Shenaaz, Soraya, Lucelle, Antonio, Bianca, Ricardo, Carmen, Danielle, Gillian, Ryan, Ramon. Ook oupagroot. Begrafnis 11/01/2008 om12 middag by Christ The King Parish.. Daarna na Stellawood Begraafplaas. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
HOUSTON Cecil Adrian † 8/01/2008 x Joan .Pa van Pauline, Darryl, Eric, Arthur, Winni ,Ray, Crispin, Natalie,oupa en oupagroot. Begrafnis by St Michaels Church Redhill op 12/01/2008 om 10 vm Daarna na Redhill Begraafplaas. Ingesit deur DOVES.0860025500.
MONTAGUE Anthony Sylvester (Tony) van Overport x Elaine. Pa van Stephen, Karl, Avril en Heidi. Skoonpa van Katherine, Gillian en Neil. Oupa van Jaime, Jonathan, Jesse, Darius, Aaron en Joshua. Begrafnis 12/01/2008 om 10.30 vm. by Conquering Through Prayer Ministries Sparks Rd. Daarna na Stellawood Begraafplaas. Ingesit deur CENTRAL Funerals.
NIGHTINGALE nee WALTERS Shirley † 7/01/2008. x † Alan. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
OLIVER Lionel William 31/12/1929 ---† 09/01/2008 x Pat. Pa van Kevin en Ian. Skoonpa van Maryanne en oupa van Shannon en Caitlyn. Memorial 11/01/2008 by Manning Rd Methodiste Kerk om 2nm.
STOLLS ( Nooi) Rosie Francina van Sydenham x † Henry Peter . Ma van Elaine, Wendy , Brian, Vannessa, Vernon, Jamaine en † Marlene en Angela. Skoonma, skoonsuster, ouma en oumagroot. Begrafnis uit Nuwe Apostoliese Kerk Sydenham op 12/01/2008 om 10 vm. Verassing privaat.
TATHAM LORRAINE Anne Shepstone † 9/01/2008 by die huis x Errol . Ma van Bridget, Nigel , Clare en Douglas. Skoonma van Rob ,Sue , Andrew en Allison en ouma. .
TILLIM Anthony Frank † 08/01/2008. x Clarita, Pa van Guy en Bugs, Oupa van Hannah, Nicholas en Luke . Broer van Lynn x Alastair ,oom van Adrian en Lisa . Begrafnis op 11/01/2008 by St Georges Church ,Eton Rd, Parktown om 2.30nm.
WATSON Craig Wallace 07/01/1967 ------08/01/2008 (koerant sê 2007) x Evelyn-Mae . Seun van Nora en Norman , broer van Bradley x Heidi oom van Shanna..Ook sal gemis word deur skoonfamilie BROWN. Richard en fam.; Melanie en fam.; Mary-Anne en fam.; Virginia en fam. Ook Derek en Veronica. Begrafnis by St James Anglikaanse Kerk Morningside op 11/01/2008 om 11 vm Daarna na Stellawood Begraafplaas. Ingesit deur SHANLEY'S 031 2057644.
MEMORIAM:- BINGHAM Val x Colin. Ma van Kevin en Wayne Skoonma en ouma. 1 jaar dood nou.
WAGNER Andrew James 01/10/1971 ----10/01/2007 x Lisa Pa van Laiken en Alyssa WAGNER. Broer en oom van Belinda, Marlon, Tiann en Christopher.
Gegroet uit Durban. Oop lug baie sterretjies en warm. Rita Q.
Boodskap 21a. Begrafnisbriewe Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:00 pm (PST)
Môre Vriende,
Ek het gister ongeveer 40 begrafnisbriewe opgelaai by Fotki. Vanne nie in alfabetiese orde is:
Bouwer; Blomerus; Britz; Breytenbach; Coetzee; Nienaber; Janse van Rensburg; Oosthuizen; van Biljon; Prinsloo; van Jaarsveldt; Scheepers; Steinman; Spamers; le Roux; Crous; van der Merwe; Sevenster; Visser; Liebenberg; Jansen van Vuuren.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut
Boodskap 22. (no subject) Posted by: "(no author)" (no email address) Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:12 pm (PST)
More Fanie
Is daar dalk 'n moontlikheid dat jy vir my die Spamers se begrafnisbriewe kan deurstuur of hoe kan ek dit onder oë kry? Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3055
Datum: Thu Jan 10, 2008
Daar is 6 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: Alwyn Schlebusch From: J van der Grijp
2a. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie From: bosschris100
3a. Re: Martin Familie (vir Paul Prinsloo) From: Charlie Els
3b. Re: Martin Familie (vir Paul Prinsloo) From: paul.prinsloo
4a. Re: Blyvooruitsicht, Transvaal From: Nardus Vodacom
4b. Re: Blyvooruitsicht, Transvaal From: Nardus Vodacom Boodskap 1a. Re: Alwyn Schlebusch Posted by: "J van der Grijp" [email protected] jacquesvdg Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:20 pm (PST)
Dag Dennis en ander lyslede.
Alwyn Louis SCHLEBUSCH, was gebore 16 Sep 1917 te Lady Grey. Hy was getroud met Isabella Elizabeth KRAUSE (* 3 Mei 1919, + 1996 in Kroonstad. Cause of death Cancer.), d.v. Karel Frederik Christoffel KRAUSE en Isabella Elizabeth Kriel. Hul het getrou 15 Dec 1942.
Hul het vier kinders gehad: Isabella Elizabeth Schlebusch, * 25 Sep 1943. Charel Johannes Schlebusch, * 11 Sep 1946 in Kroonstad. Karel Krause Schlebusch, * 23 Jun 1950, + 1992 in Oranje Hospital Elizabeth Cornelia (Betsie) Schlebusch, * 27 Nov 1952
Alwyn en my oupa Schlebusch is 2nd counsin once removed.
Vriendelike Groete Jacques van der Grijp Vanne wat ek navors: Van der Grijp, Schlebusch, De Beer, Oberholzer en aanverwant.
Boodskap 2a. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie Posted by: "bosschris100" [email protected] bosschris100 Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:56 pm (PST)
Baie Dankie vir almal se insette. waardeer dit baie
Hendrik, ek sal dit baie waardeer. My pa het altyd gedreig om my Bekker kosskool toe te stuur. Sy oom was blykbaar die Hoof toe dankie Chris
Boodskap 3a. Re: Martin Familie (vir Paul Prinsloo) Posted by: "Charlie Els" [email protected] charlieels Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:57 pm (PST)
Hallo Paul,
Die register is die van MARTHINUS JACOBUS MARTIN, *16 Oct 1851 (Volksraadslid van die voormalige Vrystaatse Republiek onder President F W Reitz) wat die leier was van die Martin-trek in 1894 na Rhodesië en die stamvader is van die MARTINS daar. Hy word ook bespreek in "Die Pionierstrekke na Gazaland" en ander boeke deur S P Olivier.
Ek het ongelukkig geen inligting oor die name wat jy soek nie.
Groete,
CHARLIE
Boodskap 3b. Re: Martin Familie (vir Paul Prinsloo) Posted by: "paul.prinsloo" [email protected] paul.prinsloo Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:02 pm (PST)
Hi Charlie.. dankie vir die moeite. Hierdie oom was beslis 'n Engelsman..ek het 'n foto van hom en nog 'n paar Engelse soldate gedurende die ABO waar hulle rondom 'n kanon staan en poseer.
Dankie elk geval.
Paul
Boodskap 4a. Re: Blyvooruitsicht, Transvaal Posted by: "Nardus Vodacom" [email protected] Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:47 pm (PST)
Drikus,
Die huise is eintlik mynhuise en nie spoorweghuise. Blyvoor is `n baie ou myn wat dateer uit die veertiger – jare. Daar bestaan nog stalle vir die muile ondergrond wat destyds gebruik is om ondergronds die panne op spore te trek.
Groete
Nardus
Boodskap 4b. Re: Blyvooruitsicht, Transvaal Posted by: "Nardus Vodacom" [email protected] Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:47 pm (PST)
Johan,
Blyvoor is `n myn ongeveer 10 km vanaf Carltonville. Die myn is begin tydens die veertiger - jare en werk nog steeds vandag, bedryf deur DRD. Die "Village" dra dieselfde naam, nl. Blyvooruitzicht. Dit is ook hier waar die Oosthuizen - gesin in 1963 onder die aarde verdwyn toe `n reuse sinkgat in die dorp ontstaan het, met vier huise wat daarin verdwyn het.
Groete
Nardus Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3056
Datum: Fri Jan 11, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: HAJENIUS From: Marlene S
1b. Re: HAJENIUS From: David Jamieson
2a. Re: Blyvooruitsicht, Transvaal From: Elisheva Quick
3a. Alwyn Schlebusch From: Andrew Kok
4. (Koerant) Beeld 11 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
5. WEBTUISTES SE SKAKELS From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
6a. GOU(W)S REGISTER From: Wanda Botes
6b. Re: GOU(W)S REGISTER From: Ben du Plessis
6c. Re: GOU(W)S REGISTER From: [email protected]
7. Doopinskrywwings Hervormde kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
8a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
9a. Re: Doopinskrywings Hervormde kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
10a. Re: Martin Familie (vir Paul Prinsloo) From: Willeen Olivier
11a. Re: Joubert From: Willeen Olivier
12. Samewerking vs Isolasie. From: [email protected]
13a. - Ogies grafte From: Alta Roux
13b. Re: - Ogies grafte From: Annelie Els
13c. Re: - Ogies grafte From: Wynand Bezuidenhout
14a. Re: Springbok begraafplaas groot hulp asb!! From: Be our Guest
15a. Re: Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand From: Janet Melville
15b. Re: Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand From: Louis Hurn
15c. Re: Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand From: Jan Cilliers
15d. Re: Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand From: Wynand Bezuidenhout
16. Komm Hendrik Greeff From: Alta Griffiths
17a. Re: WYNAND - Ogies grafte From: Wynand Bezuidenhout Boodskap 1a. Re: HAJENIUS Posted by: "Marlene S" [email protected] marlsas111 Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:51 am (PST)
Hi David,
Dankie vir die inligting. Ek reken elke bietjie help. Ek is amper seker dis dieselfde JW Hajenius!
Groete, Marlene Simpson Wellington, New Zealand
Boodskap 1b. Re: HAJENIUS Posted by: "David Jamieson" [email protected] davidkjamieson Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:53 am (PST)
Goeiemore Marlene,
Indien jy meer inligting oor J.W.Hajenius opspoor sal ek dit baie waardeur as jy dit vir my sal kan aanstuur want ek vir graag weet oor die verbintenis tussen die twee families. Die is maar jammer dat hy so vroeg op 33 jaar oorlede is.
Groete uit 'n koellerige Skotland.
David
Boodskap 2a. Re: Blyvooruitsicht, Transvaal Posted by: "Elisheva Quick" [email protected] eli_ian_tan Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:57 am (PST)
Original Message-----From:] On Behalf Of Nardus Vodacom Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] Blyvooruitsicht, Transvaal -Die "Village" dra dieselfde naam, nl. Blyvooruitzicht.
Nardus, dankie vir die herinnering en inligting van hierdie 1963 tragedie en die Oosthuizen gesin. Mens vergeet so maklik soos die tyd aanstap.
Groete
Elisheva Quick
Boodskap 3a. Alwyn Schlebusch Posted by: "Andrew Kok" [email protected] jakok2001 Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:14 am (PST)
Dennis
Alwyn Louis Schlebusch * 16 Sep 1917 Lady Grey. X 15 Dec 1942 Bloemfontein-Wes Isabella Elizabeth Krause * 3 May 1919, + 1996 in Kroonstad, # Kroonstad (dv Karel Frederik Christoffel Krause en Isabella Elizabeth Kriel)
Isabella Elizabeth Schlebusch, * 25 Sep 1943. Charel Johannes Schlebusch, * 11 Sep 1946 Kroonstad. Karel Krause Schlebusch, * 23 Jun 1950, + 1992 in Oranje Hospitaal, # Hennenman. Elizabeth Cornelia (Betsie) Schlebusch, * 27 Nov 1952.
Groete
Andrew
******************************** Dr J Andrew Kok Deputy Director: Knowledge Management Department of Social Development 7th floor, Union House, Queen Victoria St, Cape Town 021 483 6201
Boodskap 4. (Koerant) Beeld 11 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:37 am (PST)
CLAASEN; Magdalena Johanna Silenta (66) * SMITH, in lewe van Pretoria. Verassingsdiens: Safarie Kwekery Kapel, Pretoria, 14/01/2008, 10:00. (Beeld - 11/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Oos, 012-460-3745.
HANEKOM; Mary Jean Gordon, in lewe van Boksburg, Gauteng provinsie. Verassingsdiens: AGS Woord en Lewe, h v Trichardt- en King Fisherweg, Sunward Park, Boksburg, 14/01/2008, 14:00. (Beeld - 11/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Oos, 012-460-3745.
LOUW; {Prof} W J (72), emeritus Professor in elektroniese ingenieurswese, universiteit van Pretoria 1979-1992 + Kaapstad, 02/01/2008. Gedenkdiens: NG Gemeente, Fearie Glen, Glenwoodweg, 14/01/2008, 14:30. Word oorleef deur sy vrou Chris, drie kinders en vyf kleinkinders. (Foto met berig). (Beeld - 11/01/2008)
SCHLEBUSCH; {sy Edele} Alwyn Louis (90) + Netcare Pretoria-Oos hospitaal, 07/01/2008, Oud- Vise-Staatspresident. Begrafnisdiens: NG Kerk, Kroonstad-Noord, Vrystaat provinsie, 11/01/2008, 11:00. Kontak: {Mnr} Ken TERRY van die presidensie by 082-579-3763. Sal onthou word deur sy kinders en gades, veertien kleinkinders en vyf agterkleinkinders. (Foto met berig). (Beeld - 10, 11/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Oos, 012-460-3745.
SCHOEMAN; Dirk, in lewe van Germiston, Gauteng provinsie. Begrafnisdiens: Dewlishlaan 27, Albermarle, Germiston, 11/01/2008, 13:00 # Ou Boksburg Begraafplaas, Gauteng provinsie. (Beeld - 11/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Germiston, 011-825-3667.
VAN DER WALT; Sophie Maria, in lewe van Germiston, Gauteng provinsie. Verassingsdiens: GBA Kapel, Joubertstraat, Germiston, 15/01/2008, 11:00. (Beeld - 11/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Germiston, 011-825-3667.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 5. WEBTUISTES SE SKAKELS Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:00 am (PST)
Hallo alle lyslede
Julle mag dalk alreeds die onderstaande webtuistes ken of nie; dit is vir die wat nog nie die tuistes ontdek het nie. Hier is alfabetiese lyste by die Grobler en Shutte families. Dit sluit al hul aangetroude families in. Daar is 'n wye verskeidenheid van vanne net om van te droom. O.a. van die vanne wat die afgelope tyd bespreek is onder die groepe. Jy mag dalk net 'n verlore skakel daar vind.
Engelbrecht familie register http://www.voorstoep.co.za/stamboom.HTML
Descendants of Johann Grobler http://myweb.absamail.co.za/johann.grobler/index
Naamgesorteerde indekslys van die nageslag van S.A. Stamvader Christiaan Ernst Schutte http://www.schutte.kaleido.co.za/indeksv.html
Probeer gerus. Groete uit 'n steeds nat en koue Bosveld.
Berna
Boodskap 6a. GOU(W)S REGISTER Posted by: "Wanda Botes" [email protected] wandabotes Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:21 am (PST)
Hello, almal
Ek soek hulp!!
Weet iemand of daar dalk ‘n Gou(w)s register is?
Ek is opsoen na die ouers van Maria Johanna GOUS * Jul 1810 Prins Albert † 30 Dec 1896. Haar doods kennisgewing se dat haar ouers Petrus Cornelius Johannes Gous abt *1787 x Geertruyda Maria Johanna Harmesa – maar ek kry geen inligting oor die familie nie.
Is daar iemand wat meer inligting oor die familie het??
REGARDS / GROETE
Wanda Botes
Tel (021) 402-2239 Fax 086 505 3515
Boodskap 6b. Re: GOU(W)S REGISTER Posted by: "Ben du Plessis" [email protected] bjadup Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:04 am (PST)
Wanda
SAG2 noem 'n Petrus Johannes Gouws b3c9d5 ~1787-01-28. Harmesa kon dalk bedoel: Harmse, maar daar's nie so 'n Harmse in SAG3 nie.
Ben
Boodskap 6c. Re: GOU(W)S REGISTER Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:22 am (PST)
Kyk na: http://www.greeff.info/tng01/familywebsites.php#South%20African%20Family%20Web sites
Francois Greeff ______Om by ons Greeff kuiernet ('n epos netwerk) aan te sluit, stuur asseblief 'n epos aan [email protected], met net die enkele woord, subscribe, as onderwerp en as inhoud.
Greeff Familie Webblad: www.Greeff.info
36 Aston Road London SW20 8BE United Kingdom of Great Britain
0044 20 8543 6966 (Home) or 020 8543 6966 0044 79 6372 2345 (Mobile) or 079 6372 2345 Skype: Greefffrancois
Boodskap 7. Doopinskrywwings Hervormde kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:13 am (PST)
P 60
370 Gertruida Johanna geb 29 Mei 1861 ged 4 Mei 1862
Ouders: Roelof Johannes STRÿDOM
Christina Elizabetta NAGEL
Get: T.H. GEÿSER
Sara Johanna Susanna BRONKHORST
J.J.A? VERCEUIL
H.F. BOTHA
371 Georg Hendrik Bartholomeus geb 5 Mei 1861 geb 4 Mei 1862
Ouders: Dirk BROEKENHOVEN
Wilhelmina Jacoba MARNITZ
Get: J.A. BOTHA
S.G.M. MARNITZ
J.H. NUNES geb MARNITZ
B. FORTMAN
S.Z. ZETSMAN
372 Abraham Johannes geb 27 Sept 1861 geb 11 Mei 1862
Ouders: Willem Jacobus PELSTER
Margaritha Alida JACOBS
Get: Abraham Petrus DUVENAGE
Anna Elisabeth PELSTER
Jacobus Hendrik DUVENAGE
Helena Gertruida JACOBS
373 David Stephanus geb 9 Julÿ 1861 ged 11 Mei 1862
Ouders: Pieter GROBLER
Johanna Adriana JACOBS
Get: David Stephanus JACOBS
Johannes Christoffel ROETS
Elsje GROBLER
Jan Christoffel SMIT
Martha Johanna HAMMAN
P 61
374 Maria Catharina Wilhelmina geb 26 Nov 1861 ged 11 Mei 1862
Ouders: Nicolaas Johannes GROBLER
Maria Magdalena Wilhelmina Gertruida Josephina FOURIE
Get: Jan Christoffel ROETS (doopvader)
Susanna Catharina KLOPPERS
Willem Andries COMBRINK
Maria Johanna DUPLOOÿ
(Truytje Susanna FOURIE )
(Johannes Hermanus GROBLER)Echtelingers ?
375 Johannes Hendrik Willem geb 24 Januarÿ 1861 ged 11 Mei 1862
Ouders: Johannes Hendrik DUPLOOÿ
Helena Elisabeth VAN DER BERG
Get: Jacobus Petrus VAN DER BERG
Anna Maria ENGELBRECHT
Willem Andries COMBRINK
Maria Johanna DUPLOOÿ
376 Gesina Catharina Dorothea geb 5 December 1861 ged 18 Mei 1862
Ouders: Willem Andries Petrus PRETORIUS
Helena Berendina Norbetta BESTER
Get: SamuelJacobus PRETORIUS
Gesina Catharina PRETORIUS
Petrus Daniel DELPORT
Elisabetta Johanna Petronella PRETORIUS
P 62
GEDOOPT TE RHINOSTERPOORTTEN HUÿSE VAN BRD OUDERL P VENTER OP DE 25 MEI 1862 DOOR G.W. SMITS PREDIKANT TE RUSTENBURG
377 Christoffel Johannes geb 6 Mei 1862
Ouders: Christoffel Johannes VAN VUUREN (overleden)
Gertruida Wilhelmina Magdalena JONKER
Get: Diederik Jacobus HATTING
Aletta Sophia VAN VUUREN
Martha Susanna Petronella DUPLOOÿ
Petrus Casparus SNÿDERS ( Niet betaald )
378 William Adolf geb 13 April 1862
Ouders: James Edward MOLDER
Jacoba Johanna Wilhelmina MARAIS
Get: Adriaan Jacobus MARAIS
Sophia Johanna Jacoba BRONKHORST
Jan WATT ?
Susara Elisabeth MARAIS
379 Sophia Carolina Johanna geb 13 Junÿ 1861
Ouders: Adriaan Jacobus MARAIS
Sophia Johanna Jacoba BRONKHORST
Get: James Edward MOLDER
Jacoba Johanna Wilhelmina MARAIS
380 Jan Solomon geb 5 Mei 1861
Ouders: Jan WATT
Susara Elisabeth MARAIS
Get: Christina Johanna MARAIS
Salomon Johannes MARAIS
James Edward MOLDER (doopvader)
Jacoba Johanna Wilhelmina MARAIS
P 63
381 Charles Gerardus 12 April 1862
Ouders: Karel Adriaan SMIT
Elisabeth Wilhelmina DE BEER
Get: Abraham Christiaan DUVENAGE (doopvader)
Susanna Margarietha LAGRANGE
Johannes Adam DE BEER
Hesther Margaritha SMIT
Gideon Jacobus SNÿMAN
Hendrina Carolina DUVENAGE
GEDOOPT OP DE PLAATS KAREEBOSCH BY DEB HEER PETRUS V.D.M. OP DEN 31 MEI 1863 DOOR A.J. BEGEMAN
382 Sara Johanna Susanna geb 31 Oct 1862
Ouders: Frederik Hendrik GEÿSER
Sara Johanna Susanna BRONKHORST
Get: Gerardus Louwrens VAN EMMENIS
Anna Jacoba GEÿSER
Petrus VAN DER MERWE
Hester Gertruida Alida BRONKHORST
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 8a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:14 am (PST)
383 Emmerencie Adriana geb 13 Julÿ 1862
Ouders: Alewyn Petrus BOTHA
Emmerencie Adriana GEÿSER
Get: Johannes Jacobus GEÿSER
Margarita Magdalena BOTHA
Hercules Philippus Rudolf BOTHA
Judit Johanna Susanna SMIT
384 Johannes Jacobus geb 16 April 1863
Ouders: Johannes Jacobus GEÿSER
Margarita Magdalena BOTHA
Get: Alewyn Petrus BOTHA
Emmerencie Adriana GEÿSER
Willem Niklaas GROBLER
Wilhelmina Gertruida Aletta BOTHA
385 Philippus Arnoldus geb 5 Nov 1862
Ouders: Philippus Arnoldus VENTER
Anna Susanna Cecilia ELOF
Get: .....enbs ? Petrus VENTER
Cornelia Elisabeth Gesina POTGIETER
Christoffel Gerardus SNÿMAN
Catharina Fredrika Sofya ELOF
Georg Frederik SNÿMAN
Magdalena Catharina BOTHA
386 Marta Catarina geb 24 Julÿ 1862
Ouders: Philippus Johannes GEÿSER
Cecilia Johanna ELOF (geen lidmaat)
Get: Christoffel Gerardus SNÿMAN
Catharina Fredrika Sofya ELOF (doopmoeder)
P 64
387 Charles Gerardus geb 20 April 1863
Ouders: Johannes Jurgen DE BEER – Niet lidmaten
Elisabeth Willemina SMIT – Niet lidmaten
Get: Frederik Hendrik GEÿSER (doopvader)
Sara Johanna Susanna BRONKHORST (doopmoeder)
Alewÿn Petrus BOTHA
Emmerencie Adriana GEÿSER
388 Rudolf Johannes geb 20 April 1862
Ouders: Rudolf Johannes BRONKHORST – geen lidmaat
Martal Hendrina VAN HEERDEN
Get: Hendrik Lambert BOTHA (doopvader)
Louisa Jacoba VAN HEERDEN
Pieter JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Anna Margaritha BRONKHORST
389 Petrus Jacobus geb 1 October 1862
Ouders: Petrus Jacobus VAN DER WESTHUISEN (geen lidmaat)
Johanna Cornelia BOTHA
Get: Petrus Casparus SNÿDERS (doopvader)
Petrus Jacobus VAN DER WESTHUISEN
Johanna Maria SCHOEMAN
Frederik Jacobus BOTHA
Aletta Catarina DE LANGE
Mattheus Johannes VAN DER WESTHUISEN
Johanna Maria DE LANGE
390 Susanna Maria geb 8 November 1862
Ouders: Gerrit KOESTER
Elsje Maria Magdalena VAN EMMENIS
Get: Gideon Johannes SNÿMAN
Hendrina Cecilia DUVENAGE
Jacob Abraham Adriaan BOTES
Susanna Maria Elisabetta EMMENIS
391 Hester Maria geb 15 Januarÿ 1863
Ouders: David Schalk VAN DÿK
Pieternella Johanna VENTER
Get: Stefanus Martinus VENTER
Hester Maria ROBBERTSE
Frans Johannes Elof VAN DÿK
Heiletje Maria Margarita KRUGER
Jacobus Daniel VENTER
Cornelia Sofya VAN DÿK
392 Anna Maria Jacomina geb 27 September 1862
Ouders: Philippus Rudolf PRINSLOO
Johanna Margareta DE BEER
Get: Hendrik Koenraad FOURIE
Anna Catarina HELBERG
Frans Johannes Elof VAN DÿK
Heiletje Maria Margarita KRUGER
393 Willemina Dolfina Hendrika geb 19 Augustus 1862
Ouders: Adriaan Jacobus MARAIS
Sofya Johanna Jacoba BRONKHORST (overleden)
Get: James Edward MOULDER
Jacoba Willemina Johanna MARAIS (doopmoeder)
Salomo Johannes MARAIS
Christina Johanna MARAIS wew FORRESTER
P 65
394 Gerrit Lourens geb 17 October 1862
Ouders: Stefanus Andries VAN EMMENIS
Johanna Francina ROETS
Get: Gerrit Lourens VAN EMMENIS
Johanna Jacoba GEÿSER
Jacob Abraham Adriaan BOTES
Susanna Maria Elisabeth EMMENIS
395 Cornelia Sofya geb 17 November 1862
Ouders: Jacobus Daniel VENTER
Cornelia Sofya VAN DÿK
Get: Jacobus Daniel VENTER
Mieta Maria Magdalena ROBBERTSE
Petrus Jacobus Stefanus Johannes Lodewyk VENTER
Susara Susanna Catarina VAN DÿK
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 9a. Re: Doopinskrywings Hervormde kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:28 am (PST)
Hendrik,
Die Hervormde Kerk se Argief is geleë in Jacob Maréstraat.
Jy kan vir Nandor Sarkady kontak : [email protected]
Tel: 012 322 8885
Groetnis,
Mari
Vriendelike Groetnis, Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 10a. Re: Martin Familie (vir Paul Prinsloo) Posted by: "Willeen Olivier" [email protected] willempie5 Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:06 am (PST)
Hallo Paul,
Net omdat hy in 'n Engelse uniform saam met Engelse soldate om 'n kanon staan, meen nie hy's Engels nie :-). Genl Malan vertel van 'n geveg waar die "Engelse" kanonier besonder akuraat was - hulle vind toe later uit dat die 'n boer was wat aan die begin van die oorlog in die Vrystaatse weermag kanonier was. Die ABO het maar baie sulke snaaksighede opgelewer.
Willeen Willeen Olivier Rooihuiskraal Kotzé, van Wyk, Olivier, Bosman, en al hulle voorgeslagte ...
Boodskap 11a. Re: Joubert Posted by: "Willeen Olivier" [email protected] willempie5 Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:28 am (PST)
Jaques,
Ek het Soekmekaar se begrafplaas afgeneem, en op Fotki gesit. Dit moet nou by die goed wees wat Alta geskuif het. Hoekom kyk jy nie of daar Jouberts is nie - dalk gee dit jou 'n leidraad
Willeen Willeen Olivier Rooihuiskraal Kotzé, van Wyk, Olivier, Bosman, en al hulle voorgeslagte ...
Boodskap 12. Samewerking vs Isolasie. Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:35 am (PST)
Hallo Pat,
Een van die grootste probleme wat genealogiese navorsers teen werk is die feit dat hulle in totale isolasie werk. Elkeen van hulle sukkel met die selfe groot struikelblokke as talle ander mense, en elkeen van hulle moet self die selfde probleem oplos. Sodra mense hulle navorsing openbaar maak begin ander mense na vore kom met oplossings vir gemeenskaplike probleme, en met inligting wat by hulle stamboom inskakel. Ek verstaan dit nie dat mense die selfde navorsing wat ander reeds gedoen het, weer oor moet doen nie!
As jy, byvoorbeeld, na die Greeff stamboom kyk sal jy sien dat ons verskillende stambome het. Hulle komplimenteer mekaar, want die rekenaar soek hulle almal saam deur, asof hulle een is. Die stambome se name is: 1. Andre Servaas Greeff, Hy het 17 jaar lank in isolasie nagevors voordat hy by ons aangesluit het, en sy stamboom behels sy tak van die Greeff familie en sy neefs en niggies en hulle families. In sy vrou se familie trou iemand met 'n Greeff wat van Friedrich Greeff afstam. 2. Greeff in Germany, Hierdie stamboom is in 1941, gedurende die oorlog, in 'n boek in Duitsland gepubliseer. Die stamboom is van Greeff in Duitsland en meld emigrante ta Amerika en Kanada aan. Uiters interessant. 3. Greeff Main Tree, My navorsing, oor alle Greeff in die wereld. Ek voer Greeff vanuit die ander stambome na hierdie stamboom in. 4. Lichtenburgstam, ALLE afstammelinge van Hendrik Adriaan Greeff. Afstammelinge in beide manlike en vroulike lyne, ongeag van huidige vanne. Dit is die ongelooflik waardevolle werk van Jan Greeff. 5. Louis Echbert Greeff, Die Greeff tak en familie van Louis Echbert Greeff. 6. Pedigree FA Greeff, My Kwartierstaat. 7. Pedigree JM Greeff. Die kwartierstaat van Prof Jaco Greeff.
Een van die grootste bydraers tot ons stamboom is Lucas Rinken. Hy werk aan die e- SAGI databasis, waarin hy al die groot stambome van Suid Afrika in een groot stamboom koppel. Die groot voordeel van sy werk is dat hy al die Greeff huwelike in honderde verskillende stambome op een slag kan uithaal. Dit was 'n verstommende en groot bydrae tot ons stamboom. Koop vandag vir jou die e-SAGI CD by die Wes Gauteng tak van GGSA, want dit sal jou stamboom 'n groot stoot vorentoe gee. (Google "e-SAGI", met koppelteken.)
Nog 'n gevolg van die Greeff webblad is dat Lee Greeff in Pretoria tans ure, dae en weke in die Pretoria argiewe om werk om ALLE Greeff boedels op rekord te kry. Alles in haar eie tyd en op haar eie koste. Dit is 'n ongelooflik groot taak wat duisende fotos behels, en wat vir baie nageslagte Greeff die bakermat van hulle navorsing en kennis van die familie en stamboom sal wees.
Louis van Niekerk in Natal het vir ons 50 Greeff mense se Sterf Kennisse vanuit die Kaap se argief gestuur, en Prof Caspar Greeff ook. Johan Greeff, Jan Greeff, Andre Greeff, Karin Prinsloo, Louis Echbert Greeff, Chantal le Guilleau, en Peet Greeff werk ook aan hierdie projek.
Alta le Roux in Oudtshoorn het vir ons 'n magdom van Greeff dope gestuur, en werk tans daaraan om Greeff koerant artikels, fotos en stambome in die Oudtshoorn distrik in te samel. Louis Greeff het al die dope wat sy gestuur het in ons stamboom ingevoer.
Ek is hard op soek na nog mense wat tuis aan Greeff stambome werk. As jy van so iemand weet, laat weet my asseblief by [email protected]
Pat, stuur asseblief vir my 'n gedcom van jou navorsing (attachment, na [email protected]), dan kyk ons of ons vir jou verdere hulp han kry deur jou werk op 'n webblad aan ander bekend te maak, sodat ander kan sien wat jy doen. Dan kan hulle jou help.
Groete, Francois Greeff
Boodskap 13a. - Ogies grafte Posted by: "Alta Roux" [email protected] genealogiefreak Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:41 am (PST)
Annelie en Wynand
Ogies het geen 'dorps'begraafplaas nie.
Ogies is nooit as dorp geproklameer nie, dit was dus nooit 'n amptelike dorp nie. Die begraafplase rondom Ogies is almal 'plaas' begraafplase. Op die plaas van Jan Stoltz is twee dorpskinders begrawe wat in die 60tiger jare deur 'n vragmotor doodgery is, maar dit is al. Die Ogies inwoners word op Witbank begrawe.
Groete Alta van Kinross
Boodskap 13b. Re: - Ogies grafte Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:28 am (PST)
Thanks Alta, nou hoef ons nie daardie doodspad the ry nie.
Groetnis Annelie.
Boodskap 13c. Re: - Ogies grafte Posted by: "Wynand Bezuidenhout" [email protected] wynbez Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:02 pm (PST)
Alta,
Jy ken die omgewing natuurlik soos die palm van jou hand, so ek glo wat jy se. Ek was net as kind tot 12 jaar woonagtig in die Witbank-omgewing en daarna het ek Natal baie beter leer ken. Ek sien op een van die NAAIRS genealogiese grafsteeninskrywings is daar melding gemaak van ene Wynand Frederik wat op Ogies begraafplaas begrawe is. So ek het maar aangeneem daar is 'n dorp en begrafplaas, maar ek weet die ou gehuggie is so klein. Dis mos maar meer die Ogies myngemeenskap gewees wat daar gewoon het em plaaboer rondom.
Groete Wynand
Boodskap 14a. Re: Springbok begraafplaas groot hulp asb!! Posted by: "Be our Guest" [email protected] hendrikvanputten Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:50 am (PST)
Johan,
Gee my net so ‘n bietjie tyd. My vrou kom vanaf Springbok en ons is tans net besig om bietjie na te dink wie ons kan nader om jou te help. Ek sou met graagte my Skoonma wou vra maar sy is al 86 jaar oud en woon daar in die ouetehuis. Sys al dit moeilik vind om by die begrasafplaas uit te kom.
Groete.
Hendrik van Putten
Boodskap 15a. Re: Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand Posted by: "Janet Melville" [email protected] jmelvillexsinetcoza Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:57 am (PST)
Ek is op soek na Sakkie van der Merwe wat destyds die weervoorspelling vir ons op TV gelees het en sy voorouers - is met n Bezuidenhout getroud, toe het ek besluit ek sal probeer om deur die Bezuidenhout sy van die familie kyk of ek die inligting kan kry want deur die van der Merwes op die oomlik is ek in n doodloop straat, die mense het hulle name na willekeur omgeruil van Hendrik Johannes na Johannes Hendrik. Met die wat ek in die Kaap begin het met die Bezuidenhouts het ek afgekom op die vreslike foute met die gepubliseerde navorsing oor die Bezuidenhouts, dit het daartoe gelei dat ek nou al die MOOC sterfkennis wat ek in die hande kan kry moet kry, ongelukkig kan ons nou nie in dieKaapse argief afneem nie so die MOOC 17/1 is vir my op die oomblik n probleem, ek is nou in die process om te kyk of ek al die S/k van die Bezuidenhouts in die OVS kan kry, want ek wou oorspronklik net die Bezuidenhouts bevat in n Bezuidenhout ekskrusie, maar dit gaan nie gebeur nie, ek voel verplig om die foute reg te maak, is nou besig om na doopregisters te kyk en ek het nog nie eers na die begraafplaas CD gekyk nie.
So ja wat sal ek se, hierdie gaan n groter taak wees as wat ek gedink het, miskien moet ons wat nou in die Bezuidenhouts belangstel, saamspan en die wa deur die drif trek - sodat ons nie weer n Bezuidenhout register het wat met aannames en geraai te doen het nie.
Groete Janet Melville
Posbus 15215 Emerald Hill PE 6011 083 642 7744 H/Faks: 041 3792077 Researching: van der Merwe, Melville, Rudman, William Reynolds, Van Lingen and East Cape families
Boodskap 15b. Re: Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand Posted by: "Louis Hurn" [email protected] ljhurn Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:42 am (PST)
Hi Janet,
Weet nie of ek nou die kat aan die stert besig het nie, maar ek verbeel my dat my dogter, toe sy nog 'n lugwaardin was eens aan my genoem het dat Sakkie van dar Merwe ook 'n loods by SAL was. Miskien kan jy daarlangs iets uitvind.
Groete uit 'n lekker warm bedompige Durban.
Louis Hurn
Boodskap 15c. Re: Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand Posted by: "Jan Cilliers" [email protected] jan_cilliers Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:01 pm (PST)
Janet,
Sakkie werk tans vir Radio Pretoria in Pretoria. Jy kan hom kontak deur die radiostasie by www.radiopretoria.co.za
Groetnis
Jan Cilliers
Bronkhorstspruit
Boodskap 15d. Re: Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand Posted by: "Wynand Bezuidenhout" [email protected] wynbez Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:57 pm (PST)
Hello Janet,
Ek het nie geweet Sakkie se voorouers was Bezuidenhouts nie, maar ek neem aan dat omtrent elke Afrikaner of boer, hoe jy jouself ookal sien, het erens 'n Bezuidenhout in hulle lyn. Die Bezuidenhouts was omtrent van die begindae van die Hollandse verversingstasie aan die Kaap reeds hier. so dis te verstane dat dit die geval sal wees. Janet, jy slaan die spyker oppie kop. Dis presies wat ek gevind het met die Bezuidenhouts en is self reeds lank besig om die volle Bezuidenhoutlyn na te gaan en die foute reg te stel. Ek sien ook dat Ogies nie 'n dorp was nie. Nuus vir my. Ek het in witbank- omgewing grootgeword en het familie op Ogies gehad. maar die plekkie is so klien as jy met 'n lang bus daar stop en jy klim af aan die voorkant, moet jy terug hike dorp toe om by die agterend van die bus uit te kom.
Ek het nou so rukkie terug 'n koerantsartikel van Sakkie en oudvlieniers/loodse gesien in die Beeld? van hulle wat loodse was en een of ander funksie bygewoon het.
GROETE
Wynand Bezuidenhout
Boodskap 16. Komm Hendrik Greeff Posted by: "Alta Griffiths" [email protected] griffithsalta Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:02 pm (PST)
Francois
Ek het hier 'n boekie Aangrypende verhale van gister deur Japie Coetzee - daarin praat hy van Komm Greeff:
* groot wildjagter van olifante, seekoeie, leeus:( * soektogte na water * vernoeming van die dorp Lichtenburg * plus 'n fototjie van die kommandant se familie
+/- 5 bladsy - sal vir jou stuur as jy belangstel
Alta Griffiths Posbus 1998 DURBANVILLE 7551
Tel: 021 - 975 5491 Sel: 083 948 5207
Navorsing: Volle vanne:- Rudolph, Van der Sandt, Gloy, Cothill. Asook die Oliviers en Slabberts van Heidelberg, Tvl tot by 1930
Boodskap 17a. Re: WYNAND - Ogies grafte Posted by: "Wynand Bezuidenhout" [email protected] wynbez Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:18 pm (PST)
Annelie en Paul,
Dankie, nou is ek met julle. Die pad is so erg dat 'n bobbejaan nie met 'n kierie daar kan loop nie. Ja sommige van ons paaie is in gehawende toestand. Ag as julle wel dan terloops van die grafte opspoor laat my maar weet. Dankie vir jul moeite en gaan maar stadig oor die klippe of in die geval die slaggate(wat die hele pad insluk). Ek het jarelaas daardie omgewing se paaie gery.
Groete Wynand Bezuidenhout Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3057
Datum: Fri Jan 11, 2008
Daar is 12 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie From: Be our Guest
2a. Re: Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand From: Jorge Estreux
2b. Re: Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand From: Janet Melville
2c. Re: Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand From: Janet Melville
3. [Koerant] The Mercury Vrydag 11 Januarie 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
4. [Koerant] The Mercury Vrydag 11 Jan.2008 CREDITORS ...... From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
5a. Re: - Ogies grafte From: Alta Roux
5b. Re: - Ogies grafte From: Janet Melville
6a. Re: Eeuw van Onrecht / Jan smuts From: Nardus Vodacom
7. Blyvooruitzicht From: Nardus Vodacom
8. (Koerant) Beeld 12 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
9a. Re: GOU(W)S REGISTER From: [email protected] Boodskap 1a. Re: Bekendstelling Chris Bossert - Bossert Familie Posted by: "Be our Guest" [email protected] hendrikvanputten Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:52 pm (PST)
Chris,
Jy kan Margaret Bossert kontak by Posbus 346, Magaliesburg, 1791 of by telefoon (014) 577-1544. Ja haar man was op ‘n stadium die hoof van Bekker Landbou Hoërskool. Hy is natuurlik al ‘n paar jaar gelede oorlede. Ek ken twee van haar kindres naamlik Sussie en Boeter redelik goed. Sussie sppel Sondae orrel in die Hervormde kerk Magaliesburg en Boeter is ook ‘n onderwyser hier. O ja Margaret verjaar 31Desember.
Groete,
Hendrik van Putten
Boodskap 2a. Re: Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand Posted by: "Jorge Estreux" [email protected] jorgeestreux Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:41 pm (PST)
Janet,
Jy kan natuurlik vir Sakkie self kontak.
Gert
Boodskap 2b. Re: Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand Posted by: "Janet Melville" [email protected] jmelvillexsinetcoza Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:30 pm (PST)
Jys reg hy was en het emigreeer na Australie en het n olyfplaas daar begin, ek het kontak met hom dit is sy oupa grootjie se konneksie wat ek soek hy was met die Bezuidenhout getroud.
Janet Posbus 15215 Emerald Hill PE 6011 083 642 7744 H/Faks: 041 3792077 Researching: van der Merwe, Melville, Rudman, William Reynolds, Van Lingen and East Cape families
Boodskap 2c. Re: Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand Posted by: "Janet Melville" [email protected] jmelvillexsinetcoza Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:37 pm (PST)
Dankie
Ek het kontak met hom
Janet Posbus 15215 Emerald Hill PE 6011 083 642 7744 H/Faks: 041 3792077 Researching: van der Merwe, Melville, Rudman, William Reynolds, Van Lingen and East Cape families
Boodskap 3. [Koerant] The Mercury Vrydag 11 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:20 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:- "Procrastination is the art of keeping up with yesterday." Don MARQUIS.
GEBOORTES:-McCARTHY nee SMITH Sonja & Ryan 'n dogter Grace Elise * 9/01/2008 in Sydney Australia. 1st kleinkind vir Tom & Esme SMITH.
VERLOWING:- CARR Bruce & Vicki se jongste dogter Samantha aan Calvin ,oudste seun van Donald & Sarett THOMPSON .
DOOD:- BEVISS-CHALLINOR Zoe + 9/01/2008 in Durban. Tannie van Pamela, Raymond, Sean, Paula, Jordan, en Natasha, Carol en Dave, Matthew, Luke en Ciaran SEYMOUR, Shelley, Justin, Rhoda en Catherine GRACE. Ook tannie van MILNER- SMYTH familie:- Michael, Penny en Mandy, James, Brian en Alexander. Begrafnis by The St Thomas Anglikaanse Church Musgrave Rd. 14/01/2008 om 2nm. Ingesit deur DOVES.0860025500.
CAMPBELL Colin + 1/01/2008 in Australia.Pa van Michael en Judy, Broer van + Tony.Onthou deur Brenda en Lisa.
KLEIN Jennifer Erna (Jenny) + 10/01/2008 .Ma van Jamie, Lana en Adam KLEIN.
MILNE Jacqueline Ursula + 09/01/2008. x Laurie, Ma van Daryl x Sue en ouma van Cait en Hannah.;Ma van Lauren en ouma van Meg en Dan. Simpatie aan Laurie, Daryl, Lauren en familie van die Regent Harries Running group. Memorial by Durban Noord Methodiste Kerk Durban Noord 12/01/2008 om 10 vm. Verassing privaat.
MOORE Yvonne 13/01/1941 -----+ 09/01/2008 x Peter. Ma van Michelle, Angela, Leanne en Andrew. Ouma van Callan, Tanner, Tatum en Gabriel.Suster van Joy ,skoonsuster van + David. Tannie van Bonny en Philippa en Sally-Ann. Simpatie aan Peter en familie.
PATTERSON Morna .Vriendin van Rod, Linda, William en WILCOCK familie.
SMITH Sthoreen (Sookie) 09/02/1921 -----09/01/2008 x Frank vir 64 jaar.Ma en ouma van Moi, Karl, Carrie, Jess, Nats en Bindy.
TATHAM Lorraine Anne Shepstone + 9/01/2008 x Errol. Ma van Bridget, Nigel, Clare en Douglas. Skoonma van Rob, Sue, Andrew, en Allison. Begrafnis by The Cathedral of the Holy Nativity op 14/01/2008 om 2.30 nm.
TERBLANCE J J P bekend as Shawn x Reneé. Pa van Billy,en Peter. Seun van JJP (Bill). Vriend van baie Rugby spelers in Natal. Verassingsdiens 12/01/2008 by DOVES Greyville om 10 vm.
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WATSON Craig Wallace 07/01/1967 ------08/01/2008 . Ingesit deur jou tannie Shirley ,Joyce en familie.
MEMORIAM:- BRANSBY Thelma + 11/01/2006. Ma van Denise, Danny en familie, Stanley en Wesley.
COLENDO Priscilla (Minnie) 2 jaar dood nou. Ma van Llewellyn en fam.
FERNANDES Aron 19/07/1979 -----11/01/1994. Onthou deur Ma en Lee.
GRAY Buster. 1 jaar dood nou.Pa en oupa van Robin, Mary , Andrew, Sue en Duncan.
SURGENOR Robert Kenneth 1940--2007 x Veronica Pa van Tammy. Broer van Hillary x David . Stiepa en oupa van Jason , Derek, Marinka en Jadon.
WEIR Bobby. 5 jaar dood nou..Onthou deur Betty, Christine, Shaun, Sally-Anne en Wendy.
WHITEHEAD Gran. + 11/01/2001. Ouma van Lisa.
Gegroet uit Warm Durban Rita Quebbemann
Boodskap 4. [Koerant] The Mercury Vrydag 11 Jan.2008 CREDITORS ...... Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:20 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:-" To achieve great things, two things are needed; a plan and not quite enough time. " Leonard BERNSTEIN. American composer and conductor.
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WATKINS Richard Melville + 22/08/2006 ID 4110015070082 van 92 Parkgate, 102 St Andrews Str. Durban ESTATE Nr 12825/2006. FNB Soos bo.
RUBY PEARL LLOYD LLOYD ID 1409220036083 + 12/12/2006 van Fairydene Frail Care Centre Pinetown. ESTATE Nr.17049/2006/Pmb. LESTER HALL, SWAN & FLETCHER INCORP. Privaatsak X 7016 Hillcrest.3650.
SMITH Thomas William ID 2308255004082 van 5 Coghill Ave,Kloof ESTATE nr 827/2006/PMB. HILLS HOWARD & ASSOC. Ltd. PER Mr ID WORSNIP P.O.Box 1861 Empangeni 3880.
MORRIS Stuart Robertson + 14/04/2007 ID 5410215184181 van 180 Kingsley Rd Brighton Beach Durban . ESTATE Nr.8571/2007. FNB TRUST SERVICES P.O.Box 212 Westville 3630.
WEBB Doris Gertrude ID 1607120056081 + 10/09/2007 van Woonstel 22 Ocean View 345 Musgrave Rd Durban ESTATE Nr. 12791/2007 .CHAPMAN DYER INC 10 de Vloer , 300 Smith Str Durban 4001.
In die Boedel van wyle WILHELMINA HUBERTHA GREAVES 'N MEERDERJARIGE VROU Woonagtig te Amanzimtoti ID 2102170028080. Boedelnommer 503/2007/PMB. HJ LANGEVELDT LANGEVELDT & NEL PROKUREURS ING. Samuel Siegel Andries Pretoriusstraat 16, Posbus 73, Standerton 2430.
Gegroet uit Durban waar dit middenag is die lug oop is en dit warm is, Rita Q
Boodskap 5a. Re: - Ogies grafte Posted by: "Alta Roux" [email protected] genealogiefreak Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:49 pm (PST)
Wynand
Ek het gou gaan kyk - die verwysing se KLIPFONTEIN Ogies. Weet nie waar dit is nie, my man raai na Kendal se kant toe. Sal bietjie later op 'n kaart gaan kyk. Daar was natuurlik neste vol Bezuidenhouts in die Ogies/Kendal omgewing.
Groete Alta
Boodskap 5b. Re: - Ogies grafte Posted by: "Janet Melville" [email protected] jmelvillexsinetcoza Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:36 pm (PST)
Die Ogies, sal op n kaart moet gaan kyk presies waar dit is, sou daar n doopregister vir hom wees en indien wel onder wat sou dit val, dan kan ek die doopregister probeer raadpleeg
Janet
Posbus 15215 Emerald Hill PE 6011 083 642 7744 H/Faks: 041 3792077 Researching: van der Merwe, Melville, Rudman, William Reynolds, Van Lingen and East Cape families
Boodskap 6a. Re: Eeuw van Onrecht / Jan smuts Posted by: "Nardus Vodacom" [email protected] Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:04 am (PST)
Stephan,
Ek is seker dat Jan Smuts wel die` stuk geskryf het. Waarom anders sou hy dan die uitgawes van die rakke laat afhaal het toe hy in die Engelse se goeie boeke wou kom?
Groete
Nardus
Boodskap 7. Blyvooruitzicht Posted by: "Nardus Vodacom" [email protected] Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:04 am (PST)
Aan alle belangstelendes,
Blyvoor is darem nie heeltemal so` `n "one horse town" soos die indruk hier geskep word nie. Ek weet van uitbreidings Southdene, Westdene, Eastdene en Northdene. Die huise is wel almal baie oud. Die slaghuis waarna verwys is (Oom Salie se slaghuis) het verander in `n Spar, Midas, Karwas, Drankwinkel en groot Garage. Daar is verder `n kafee en haarsalon en `n hele aantal kerke. Carletonville is in elk geval net `n katspoegie van Blyvoor af en daar is `n baie groot besigheidssentrum. Blyvoor het twee groot laerskole.
Om weer terug te keer na die sinkgat ramp van 1963, dit is byna grillerig om vandag nog, `n halfeeu later, die tuinstruike te sien van die huise wat destyds afgbegreek is. Die fondasies en die paaie is ook nog sigbaar - alles `n stille getuienis van die tragedie wat afgespeel het. Die massiewe sinkgat waaroor die draadheining nog gehang het pas na die voorval is destyds opgevul. Vandag het die opgevulde grond weer heelwat ingesak en kort daar alweer `n hele paar ton grond om die terrein weer gelyk te kry.
Groete
Nardus
Boodskap 8. (Koerant) Beeld 12 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:19 am (PST)
COETZER; Cathrina Elizabeth, in lewe van Pretoria. Grafdiens: Heatherdale Begraafplaas, Britsweg, Pretoria-Noord, 14/01/2008, 13:00. Roudiens: NH Kerk, Wonderboom, Pretoria, 14/01/2008, 14:00. (Beeld - 12/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
OOSTHUIZEN; Elizabeth Johanna Aletta, in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: VEK Kerk, Sinoville, Pretoria, 14/01/2008, 13:00 # Zandfontein Begraafplaas, Pretoria. (Beeld - 12/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies),
Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 9a. Re: GOU(W)S REGISTER Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] helgard_holtzhausen Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:40 am (PST)
Goeie dag almal
Behalwe die bronne wat reeds genoem is, is daar ook nog die volgende publikasies waarvan ek bewus is: (de Villiers nommers volgens SAG 4)
'Die Dubbele Gouwse' deur Danie MG Gouws wat op die b3c4d1 en die b3c10d1 lyne fokus. 'Elf geslagte van die gesin Gouws in Afrika' deur Wynand P. Swanepoel wat op die b3c4d8 lyn fokus.
Piet GOUWS het voorheen 'n webwerf gehad waarop die navorsing bevat is wat sy oupa oor die GOUWSE gedoen het. Piet is tans besig om die inligting by te werk en die webwerf is tydelik van die lug. Ek sal laat weet as dit weer oop is.
Aan almal wat in die GOUWSE belangstel, wil ek net weereens wys op die fout in SAG wat Johan Pottas uitgewys het. Sover ek weet is hierdie probleem nog nie opgelos nie.
Arina Short het voorheen navorsing oor haar lyn van die GOUWSe gedoen, maar ek het met haar kontak verloor. Weet iemand miskien waar sy haar bevind?
Groete
Helgard Holtzhausen Pretoria
Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3058
Datum: Sat Jan 12, 2008
Daar is 16 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: Martin Familie (vir Paul Prinsloo) From: Patricia Finlay
1b. Verhouding met die Engelse From: sastamouers
2a. Re: - Ogies grafte From: Alta Roux
2b. Re: - Ogies grafte From: Wynand Bezuidenhout
3. Van Eck x Strydom From: bonnie sydow
4. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 12 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
5. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 11 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
6. Jammer hiervoor maar vir die persone wat ek Naairs doc skuld From: kerrieborrie
7. Re: Springbok begraafplaas groot hulp asb!! -Johan From: DIRK SCHELLINGERHOUT
8a. Re: Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand From: Wynand Bezuidenhout
9a. Re: Blyvooruitzicht From: Wynand Bezuidenhout
10a. Re: WYNAND - Ogies grafte From: Wynand Bezuidenhout
11. Stemmet navorsing From: Dirk Bloem
12. [Koerant] KWANA In The City 11 Januarie 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
13a. Re: Boeke gesoek From: Nardus Vodacom Boodskap 1a. Re: Martin Familie (vir Paul Prinsloo) Posted by: "Patricia Finlay" [email protected] pajfil Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:27 am (PST)
Ons het ook 'n famikie-storie waar een broer vir die boere geveg het terwyl die ander 'n magistraat op Ladysmith was toe die dorp omring is. Die broer op die Engelse kant (nie noodwendig sy eie keuse nie) het toe gefluit soos 'n voel. Toe die ander broer dit dehoor het het dir herken van die tyd toe hulle as kinders in die bos gespeel en gejag het. Hy't toe seker gemaak dat die kanonne te hoog of wyd gemik word. Op kersdag het albei kante toe die wit valg opgestyg net vir een dag. Die boere het nog net een skoot na Ladysmith geskiet. Hierdie keer was die kanon bal met 'n sakkie lekkers vervang!
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Boodskap 1b. Verhouding met die Engelse Posted by: "sastamouers" [email protected] sastamouers Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:50 pm (PST)
Omdat iemand langs 'n Engelse kannon staan of self aan die Engelse kant geveg het gedurende die ABO, kan 'n mens nie dan se dat die persoon 'n Engelsman was nie.
Ek doen navorsing oor 'n Van Rensburg van Heidelberg wat die president was van die Burgher Vrede kommitee (Hy het die amp gekry aan die einde van Des 1901). Weet iemand waar ek kan uitvind wanneer hy opgehou veg het en oorgegee het.
Mooi storie Pat.
Andre v R
Boodskap 2a. Re: - Ogies grafte Posted by: "Alta Roux" [email protected] genealogiefreak Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:52 am (PST)
Op die pad tussen Delmas en Witbank. Die N G kerk het in 1953 van oa Eendracht afgestig.
Groete Alta van Kinross (wat op Ogies grootgeword en skoolgegaan het)
Boodskap 2b. Re: - Ogies grafte Posted by: "Wynand Bezuidenhout" [email protected] wynbez Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:13 pm (PST)
Dankie Alta,
Jy is mos 'n ou doring!Jy.
Groete Wynand
Boodskap 3. Van Eck x Strydom Posted by: "bonnie sydow" [email protected] Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:40 am (PST) Hallo Janet & van Eck kenners
Destyds in 1999/2000 het Janet vir my alle verwysings na STRYDOM in die UPE databasis gestuur waarvoor ek haar uiters dankbaar is.
Een van die families was die volgende:
“f3 Strydom,Cornelia Susara *22.07.1823 †Buffelsvlei, Ventersdorp 25.07.1886 [306134]{39146}
×Van Eck,Daniel Rudolf *21.01.1820 †Buffelsvlei, Ventersdorp 1872 [306133]”
Ek het verlede jaar trouregisters van Potchefstroom Hervormde Kerk geraadpleeg & die volgende gekry.
1.7.1846 - nr 49 – Daniel Roelof van NECK (20) x Cornelia Susara STRYDOM (22).
SAG.6 verwys my onder van NECK na van ECK dus soek ek toe in SAG.2 en kry op bls. 160 vir c9 Daniel Rudolph van ECK * 21.3.1826 ~ 27.8.1826 met geen verdere inligting nie, s.v. Gieon Jacobus van ECK & Aletta Elizabeth COERTZE. Sy ouderdom pas perfek met die 20jr opgeteken by die huwelik.
Ek soek bevestiging dat dit inderdaad DR * 21.3.1826 is wat met Cornelia Susara STRYDOM getrou het asook bevestiging van die inligting ivm. hul afsterwe. Inligting oor enige kinders sal n groot bonus wees!
Groete vanaf Bellville
Andrew (Bonnie) Sydow
Boodskap 4. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 12 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:25 am (PST)
In Memoriam VAN ZYL, Pieter Emilius. Dink vandag, 12 Januarie, aan ons seun en broer wat sy 36ste verjaarsdag in die vreugde van sy Hemelse Tuiste vier. Ouers Emile en Elza, broers en susters. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 12/01/2008)
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 5. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 11 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:53 am (PST)
Verlowings Estée BREEDT en Juan VISSER verloof op 31 Desember 2007. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 11/01/2008)
Risca FERREIRA en Dewald BOTHA. Geluk met verlowing. Pa, Ma en familie. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 11/01/2008)
In Memoriam DANIELL, Jacques-Loval. 11/01/1994 - 17/12/2003. Jy sou vandag 14 jaar oud gewees het. Pappa, Mamma en Alana-Lee. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 11/01/2008)
Sterfgevalle DEYSEL, Sophie Lettie 71 jaar. Begrafnisdiens Saterdag 12 Jan 2008 10:00 Dalestraat Kong. Kerk. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 11/01/2008) Van Willing Begrafnisdienste 041 988 1919
ELIE, Everton Vivian 44 jaar. Begrafnisdiens Saterdag 12 Jan 2008 12:00 St. Anthony's Katolieke Kerk. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 11/01/2008) Van Willing Begrafnisdienste 041 988 1919
JANSEN, Christina (Skat) 55 jaar. Begrafnisdiens Saterdag 12 Jan 2008 13:00 Dalestr. Kong. Kerk. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 11/01/2008) Van Willing Begrafnisdienste 041 988 1919
JAPHTHA, Catherine Elizabeth (Aunty Cathy). +Monday 7 January 2008 96 years. Funeral service Sunday 13 Jan 2008 10:00 Seventh Day Adventist Church, Rosedale, Uitenhage. Jubilee Park Cemetery. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 11/01/2008) Esmé Groenewald AVBOB Uitenhage 041 922 8066
NELSON, Hendrick Peter 80 jaar. Begrafnisdiens Saterdag 12 Jan 2008 12:00 Dalestr. Kong. Kerk. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 11/01/2008) Van Willing Begrafnisdienste 041 988 1919
RETOLLA, Peter Dicky 67 jaar. Begrafnisdiens Saterdag 12 Jan 2008 12:00 VGK, Palmrylaan. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 11/01/2008) Van Willing Begrafnisdienste 041 988 1919
SEBIA, Hannah (Henna). +03/01/2008. Seuns Johannes, Gershan en Michael, moeder en broer. Diens Saterdag 12 Jan 2008 12:00 Gelvandale Comm. Centre. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 11/01/2008)
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 6. Jammer hiervoor maar vir die persone wat ek Naairs doc skuld Posted by: "kerrieborrie" [email protected] kerrieborrie Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:57 am (PST)
Goeienaand Almal
Vandag is die 5de dag wat ons vir ons tasse wag... Op die sisteem staan dat dit gestuur is na die eerste stop, maar kry die tasse nie om aan te stuur. Hhmm. Daarin is my mob en kamera se laaidrade ens. Horries! So tålamod-geduld asb.
Groete Elizabeth
Boodskap 7. Re: Springbok begraafplaas groot hulp asb!! -Johan Posted by: "DIRK SCHELLINGERHOUT" [email protected] dirkjschell Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:48 am (PST)
Johan
Ek't klaar jou e-pos na my suster in Springbok aangestuur en sy sal [ek't haar so gevra] aan jou die info persoonlik e-pos. Hoop sy sal jou gou laat weet.
Groete
J Dirk Schellingerhout Uitenhage - Oos Kaap SA Tel.: 041 9662662 / 082 412 3529
Boodskap 8a. Re: Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand Posted by: "Wynand Bezuidenhout" [email protected] wynbez Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:51 pm (PST)
Hello Janet en medegeners,
Sjoe dis interressant. Mag ek vra wanneer het die Sakkie Van der Merwe soontoe getrek. Olywe, dis heel vreemd vir ons boere, maar ek neem aan, boer maak 'n plan ne en waar 'n wil is is 'n weg. Miskien het ek ook die kat aan die stert gehad toe ek gese het Sakkie en ander oudvlieeniers was by 'n funksie onlangs hier. Miskien is dit 'n ander Sakkie wat julle van praat. Hy het soms weer gelees op SAUK nuus in die tagtiger en begin negentigerjare, die Sakkie waarvan ek praat.
Nou verder, kan jy my se met watter Bezuidenhout Sakkie se oupa grooetjie getroud was en wie was sy oupa grootjie? Jammer om sommer hier stompies op te tel, maar ek het beide Van der Merwe en natuurlik Bezuidenhout in my lyn en soos ek gister gese het, enige Bezuidenhout of sodanige verwantskap is vir my belangrik.
Groete Wynand Bezuidenhout
Boodskap 9a. Re: Blyvooruitzicht Posted by: "Wynand Bezuidenhout" [email protected] wynbez Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:11 pm (PST)
Van een belangstellende aan ander,
Dis vreeslik. Shame het enige van die mense darem oorleef? Hoe diep was die sinkgat gewees. Ek het die al gesien in boeke maar nooit self met my eie oe gesien nie. My een kollega se my dat hulle vir jare op Welkom gewoon het. Daar was in 1972? 'n aardskudding deur die stad/dorp en hy was in die hospitaal op daardie oomblik vir 'n blindederm operasie. Hy se se die skudding was so groot dat die mure begin kraak het op die tweede verdieping. Hy kon met die toe deur deur die muur kyk in die gang af. Hulle moes die hospitaal ontruim a.g.v. die skade en risiko van verdere gevaar van ineenstorting. Maar ek weet nie wat verder gebeur het nie. My lunchtyd was op en daar was meer belangrike take wat gewag het. Hy het ook gese daar was ook 'n helse tornado in 1990 deur die plek. Ek onthou dit goed. Ek was op skool in Ferrum, Newcastle en daar het ook daardie jaar 'n klein tornado deurgejaag. Ons het egter die skade en wind gemis, omdat ons 10 kilo's buite die dorp op Ngagane gebly het, by die kragstasie. Die volgende dag oppad skooltoe met die bus, het die dorp soos 'n negosiewinkel gelyk. Die skool se sinkdakke was gevou om die huise langs die skool se skoorstene. Ons klaskamer se dak was af en die wind het ingewaai. Dit was nogal interressant.
Ja maar terug by Welkom. Hy se die tornado se omtrek was so groot, dit het twee blokke bestaan, Nou glo my dis groot. Hy het gekyk hoe die tornado deur Welkom kom en na die ander dorpe daar naby beweeg. Hy het gesien hoe die wind se krag 'n groot boom deurhardloop en morsaf breek en ontwortel.
Verder se hy die dorp het ook sneeu gehad in 1996 en 1981. Dit onthou ek ook as jong seun op skool in Kragbron Laerskool, Witbank. Dit was my eerste kennismaking met sneeu of kapok of whatever julle dit nou eintlik wil noem.
Terloops, my pa het so 4 jaar in Umtata gewoon en diens gedoen as stadsingeneur tussen 1998 en 2001. In die tyd het daar ook 'n tornado deurgejaag(blykbaar gereelde ding in die Transkei). Hy het net agter die golfbaan gebly. Ek onthou ek het net voor dit 'n golfspel saam met hom gehad daar op dieselfde baan. Toe was dit netjies en boomryk. Na die tornado het die golfklub ontaard in 'n Lynx tipe baan! Die tornado het deur die dorp en oor die golfbaan gejaag en net so 4 huise van my pa s'n af, gedraai en sy huis gemis. Maar al die netjiese dennehoutbome is almal ontwortel. Ja die natuur vra nie toestemming nie. Dis die Here se handewerk en hy wys mens wat is die krag van die natuur ne.
Ek onthou nou in Junie laasjaar(2007) net nadat my seun gebore is, het dit so bietjie gesneeu in Johannesburg, maar veral baie gesien terwyl ek en my vrou 2 uur in die oggend teruggery het van die hospitaal in Vanderbijlpark na Johannesburg. Dis so lekker om die ou flokkies te sien val. Dit was nou wel min, maar genoeg om wit te maak en dis lekker om in dit te ry. Ek babbel alweer.
Groete Wynand Bezuidenhout Johannesburg
Boodskap 10a. Re: WYNAND - Ogies grafte Posted by: "Wynand Bezuidenhout" [email protected] wynbez Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:18 pm (PST)
Hello Annelie,
Ja, ek glo Alta sal jou vinnig op die regte spoor sit, maar ek glo julle het reeds haar e-mail gesien. Klipfontein begrafplaas.
Sterkte en veral met die "netjiese" pad wat ek hoor julle so geniet.
Groete Wynand
Boodskap 11. Stemmet navorsing Posted by: "Dirk Bloem" [email protected] dirkbloem Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:43 pm (PST)
Goeie Mora aan alle geners.
Ek is op soek na Carrol Stemmet of iemand wat met haar kontak het. Kan daar gehelp word asb.
Die rede is die van Stemmet.
Weet iemand of die publikasie van die navorsing wat sy gedoen het bestaan al dan nie of waar ek haar navoring kan besigtig. Andersyds 'n ander boek oor die Stemmet's. Ek het 'n vriend in Montagu belowe ek sal die Stemmet boek vir hom opspoor en wil graag die belofte gestand doen. So terloops daar is baie Stemmet's in Montagu en omgewing vir die wat belangstel.
Groetnis en baie dankie vir die hulp.
Dirk Bloem 083 644 6180 [email protected]
Boodskap 12. [Koerant] KWANA In The City 11 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:47 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
THE BOTTOM LINE:- " The purpose of life is to fight maturity." Dick WERTHIMER.
" If a dog jumps on your lap, it is because he is fond of you; but if a cat does the same thing , it is because your lap is warmer." Alfred North WHITEHEAD.
INSOLVENTE BOEDELS:-
RODGERS Kevin Thomas VERWYSINGS Nr D 33/07. Kurator:-N MOODLEY Posbus 1050 , Durban 4000. TEL:- 0313016301 Verw. GJS/JAJ 56714(3)
HILT C J W . VERWYSINGS Nr D 39/06 . Kurator:- A PILLAY ,Posbus 1050, Durban Res soos bo Verw:- GJS/JAJ 56719(3).
ESTATES:-
HATTINGH Joy Inez Grace ID 2311290009082 van Pietermaritzburg †20/11/2007. ESTATE Nr 16262/2007/PMB. For claims . RANDLES INCORP P.O.Box 456 PMB 3200 REF:- J Mayne/RB/30H229001 56723(3).
CREDITORS :- AUFRICHTIG Isaac Hirsz ID 3210125032088 †02/10/2007 van 10 Linholme , Glenwood Durban. ESTATE Nr 16030/2007/DBN. Claims at JH NICOLSON STILLER & GESHEN P.O.Box 51241 Musgrave 4062. TEL:- 0312029751 . REF:- GC Weston/NB 56727(3)J.
KERR Estelle Helene ID 4006140065080 †16/09/2006 ESTATE Nr 14268/2006/PMB. MOONEY FORD ATTORNEYS 7de Vloer Perm Building 343 Smith Str Durban. REF:- Mrs Tennent/14/w/K1878 5673(3).
LIQUIDATION DISTRIBUTION:-
MASTERS Ronald John ID 5711035046082 van 3 Polkinghome Rd Bluff, Durban.x Lindy Leigh MASTERS ID 6304050049089 ESTATE Nr 15665/2007/PMB. MICHAEL WILDNER P.O.Box 21830 Mayors Walk 3208 TEL:- 0333445463 56732(3)J.
HESLOP Vera May ID 1805010004084 van Alexander Homes for the Aged, Roger Place, Scottburgh KZN. ESTATE Nr 11465/2006/DBN. MICHAEL WILDNER soos bo.REF:-56733(3) J.
BOTHA Barend Johannes Vorster ID 3103265001080 van 55a North Beach Rd. Westbrook Beach Tongaat. ESTATE Nr. 11464/2006/DBN. MICHAEL WILDNER soos bo REF:- 56734(3)J.
FIRST /FINAL:-
RITSON Doreen Evelyn ID 2712280072081 †05/05/2007 ESTATE Nr 7154/2007/Durban. KING ESSACK & ASSOC .64 Kings Rd Pinetown 3610, TEL:- 0317011561 REF:- J NAISH /06/R008/001 56791(3).
CREDITORS / DEBTORS
GOWLDING Beryl ID 2803050031181 †13/11/2006 . ESTATE Nr. 7837/2007/ Durban. KING ESSACK soos bo. REF:- J NAISH /06/G026/001 56792(3).
Gegroet ui Durban. Temp 10 uur vanaand nogsteeds 27 grade. Rita
Boodskap 13a. Re: Boeke gesoek Posted by: "Nardus Vodacom" [email protected] Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:36 am (PST)
Anne,
Oom Piet Maritz by Protea Boekwinkel in Potch. Help baie gou met die` klas problem. Het ongelukkig nie nou sy nommer by my nie, maar dit is al `n aantal kere hier op die lys gegee.
Groete
Nardus Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3059
Datum: Sun Jan 13, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: Blyvooruitzicht From: Nardus Vodacom
2a. Verhouding met die Engelse From: Patricia Finlay
3a. Bossert - Naairs From: bosschris100
3b. Re: Bossert - Naairs From: Louis Hurn
3c. Re: Bossert - Naairs From: bosschris100
3d. Re: Bossert - Naairs From: Annelie Els
4a. Re: Kommandant Danie Theron From: Nardus Vodacom
4b. Re: Kommandant Danie Theron From: R J van den Heever
5a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
6a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
7a. JOUBERT x HEUNIS From: Ben Cilliers
7b. Re: JOUBERT x HEUNIS From: Simon du Plooy
8. Bossert SAG1 From: bosschris100
9. VOLGENDE MAANDVERGADERING: WES-GAUTENGTAK, GGSA From: Japie Bosch
10a. Re: Alwyn Schlebusch From: Helena Garner
10b. KAB & NGK From: Johan
10c. Re: Alwyn Schlebusch From: Fanie Blignaut
11a. Re: WYNAND - Ogies grafte From: Alta Roux
11b. Re: WYNAND - Ogies grafte From: Annelie Els
11c. Re: WYNAND - Ogies grafte From: Alta Roux
12a. Re: STRYDOM x VENTER From: bonnie sydow
13a. BRITS x STRYDOM, sy xx OPPERMAN From: bonnie sydow
14a. Johanna Catharina CONRADIE From: dickydube
14b. Re: Johanna Catharina CONRADIE From: Daniel Jacobs
15. Johanna Elizabeth OBERHOLZER From: dickydube Boodskap 1a. Re: Blyvooruitzicht Posted by: "Nardus Vodacom" [email protected] Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:19 am (PST)
Wynand,
Ek het al vergeet van die ander rampe op Welkom, dankie vir die herinnering. Indien ek reg onthou het Welkom ook in 1976 `n hewige aardbewing gehad, ek het self `n woonstelgebou gesien wat ingetuimel het – daar was slegs `n hoop rommel oor!
Wat blyvoor en ook Carletonville betref, daar was sedert die sestiger – jare `n hele aantal ernstige voorkomste van sinkgate in die omgewing, meeste te wyte aan die dolimietiese aard van die ondergrond. Op Blyvoor spesifiek was die sinkgat die gevolg van ondergrondse water wat uitgepomp is wat veroorsaak het dat die spelonke gevorm deur dolimietiese verwering, leeg was en plek gemaak het vir die bgrond om in te vloei. Die ingenieur destyds op die myn was vooraf gereeld gewaarsku om die waterpompery te staak, maar hy het daarmee aangehou. Die mense het gedreig om hom na die voorval in die gat af te gooi. Die gat was enorm groot (Daar was `n foto van bo geneem in ons Aardrykskunde handboek), dit het van bo af na `n muurleeu se gat gelyk, perfek rond met `n “Cone” – vorm na onder. Hulle het reddingswerkers met `n helikopter na onder laat sak, maar al wat te sien was, was die gronder wat na onder tregter.
Die Oosthuizens was `n pragtige gesin met `n seun en dogter. Hulle het die aand van vakansie gekom en sou slegs een aand oorslaap voordat hulle verder sou vertrek op die tweede skof van hulle vakansie. Ongeveer een – uur die oggend, het die buurvrou `n gerammel gehoor, sy het by die venster uitgekyk en gesien hoe Mev. Oosthuizen haar kamerlig aanskakel. Die volgende oomblik het sy gegil en slegs vonke was in die donker nag sigbaar. Die buurvrou se huis het op die rand van die gat bly staan met sekere vertrekke, die motorhuis en bediende kamer weg in die gat. Die dak was perfek langs die naat afgesny. `n Dame het my so` ongeveer twee jaar gelede vertel dat sy gereeld by die buurvrou gekuier het voor die voorval en dat haar hakskoen se dun hakkie baie keer in `n bars in die vloer vasgehaak het. – dit was langs die` bars presies waar die huis toe in twee gedeel is.
Anderkant Carletonville by Bank was daar ook besonders baie sinkgate – eenkeer het `n tennisbaan geheel en al verdwyn, saam met `n speler wat gesit en rus het op sy bankie. Daar is heelwat mense dood tydens die` tydperk en tot onlangs toe, het baie gate weer in Carletonville en BLyvoor – omgewing voorgekom – sonder lewensverlies gelukkig.
Groete
Nardus
Boodskap 2a. Verhouding met die Engelse Posted by: "Patricia Finlay" [email protected] pajfil Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:19 am (PST)
Dankie Andre!
In die ABO het mense nie altyd vrywillige keuse gehad om aan een of ander kant te veg nie. Dis maar hoe die lewe is!
Jammer van die tik voute; ek sien hulle nou eers. Ek het gevoel dat die storie so toepaslik is dat ek sommer gou-gou getik het so tussen dringende gebeurtenisse.
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Boodskap 3a. Bossert - Naairs Posted by: "bosschris100" [email protected] bosschris100 Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:59 am (PST)
Ek hoop iemand kan help, wat is die prosedures & kostes om die volgende te kan kry asook van die ander databasisse KAb, ens
Dankie by voorbaat Chris NASA - NAREM, NAREF DEPOT TAB TYPE Aanwins REFERENCE A2061 DESCRIPTION Genealogie STARTING 1920 ENDING 1995 REMARKS Skenker: mev. AM Bossert, 1995; 3f. SUMMARY + Bossert-familie.
Boodskap 3b. Re: Bossert - Naairs Posted by: "Louis Hurn" [email protected] ljhurn Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:27 am (PST)
Hi Chris,
Ek het al voorheen ook hierdie aangevra, indien jy dit kry gee my ook 'n kopie. Indien ek dit kry sal ek ook vir jou gee.
Groete Louis Hurn
Boodskap 3c. Re: Bossert - Naairs Posted by: "bosschris100" [email protected] bosschris100 Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:36 am (PST)
Ek sal so maak, het jy enig ander dokumente of inligting, behalwe die drie fotos
Dankie Chris
Boodskap 3d. Re: Bossert - Naairs Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:12 am (PST)
Hallo Louis en Chris,
Hierdie is AANWINSTE - dis `n skenking van een of ander data, boeke, ens gemaak deur AM Bossert aan die Argief. Dis is by die TAB in Pretoria. Die aanwinste is nie altyd die maklikste goed om in die hande te kry nie.
Groetnis Annelie Pretoria.
Boodskap 4a. Re: Kommandant Danie Theron Posted by: "Nardus Vodacom" [email protected] Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:28 am (PST)
Ariel,
Daar is `n boekie beskikbaar in die Biblioteek op Fochville (Titel ongelukkig vergeet) oor Kom. Theron. Hy was nie minder nie as drie keer begrawe.
Die eerste keer was saam met die drie Engelse wie onder sy hand gesneuwel het. Dit was iewerste tussen Elandsfontein en Buffelsdoorn, `n aantal KM vanwaar hy gesneuwel het naby die monument.Die Engelse het sy lyk van die Gatsrand gedra na `n nabygeleë huisie waar twee vrouens sy lyk geëien het. (Die huisie word vandag bewoon deur Daniël, `n swart natuurbewaarder van Anglogold)Daarna het hulle opweg na Potchefstroom later die dag tydens uitspan, die vier lyke begrawe.
Die Boere het in hulle soeke na hom, eers die Engelse se lyke opgegrawe en daarna op sy lyk afgekom.Hulle het hom toe op Elandsfontein gaan begrawe naby die watermeule waar hulle altyd mielies gemaal het (Vandag is daar `n Kampterrein van die NG - Kerk) Die plaas waar hy begrawe was , behoort vandag aan Willie Van Rensburg.
In 1903 is genoeg geld ingesamel en is hy te Eikenhof begrawe, soos ons weet, langs sy verloofde.
In die boekie is daar `n foto geneem tydens die opgrawing in 1903, twee koppies in die agtergrond, toon duidelik die posisie langs `n ou klipkraal.
Hoop dit is van enige hulp
Groete
Nardus
Boodskap 4b. Re: Kommandant Danie Theron Posted by: "R J van den Heever" [email protected] Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:21 am (PST)
Naand almal.
Ek het 'n boekie Komdt. Danie Theron deur J H Breytenbach. Dit lyk nie of dit die boek is waarvan Nardus praat nie, want daar is geen prente in nie.
Die eerste paragraaf van die boek lui:
"Sy volle naam was Daniel Johannes Stephanus Theron, en hy is op 9 Mei 1872 gebore in Kerkstraat, Tulbagh uit die egverbintenis van 'n wewenaar, Willem Wouter Theron, met 'n weduwee, Anna Helena Margaretha Pretorius, gebore Krige. Uit hierdie huwelik, waarvan hy die tweede kind was, het sewe broers en susters hom toegeval, naamlik Willie (die oudste), Magdalena, Mathilda, Annie, Charlie, Johanna en Marais - laasgenoemde twee van wie oorlede is terwyl hulle nog babatjies was. Hierby het hy egter uit die eerste huwelik van sy vader twee halfbroers - Pieter en Francois - en twee halfsusters - Anna en Sannie - geërf, en uit die vroeëre huwelik van sy moeder met Pretorius een halfbroer - Johannes Lodewicus - en twee halfsusters - Lucia en Maria. (Die bronne vir die inligting word ook verstrek.)
Die inligting oor die drie begrafnisse word ondersteun.Daar is nog meer besonderhede oor die gebeurtenisse.
Groete,
Ria van den Heever
Boodskap 5a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:29 am (PST)
396 Anna Margarita Catarina geb 3 Februarÿ 1863
Ouders: Daniel Johannes KRIEGER
Petronella BOTHA
Get: Alewyn Petrus BOTHA
Anna Margarita Catarina BOTHA
Frans Gabriel VAN DEN BERG
Maria Catarina BOTHA
GEDOOPT OP MAKAPANS POORT TEN HUIZE VAN DEN HEER WILLEM VAN HEERDEN OP DEN 27 MEI 1863 DOOR DE PREDEKANT A.J. BEGEMANN
397 Magdalena Catarina Jacoba geb 25 Augustus 1862
Ouders: Willem Schalk Jacobus VAN HEERDEN
Hester Geertruida BOTHA
Get: Magdalena Catarina BOTHA
Jacobus Cornelis BEUKES
Johannes Lodewikus VAN HEERDEN
Johanna Hendrina DUPREZ
Niklaas Hendrik Johannes Frederik VAN HEERDEN
Dorothea POTGIETER
398 Maria Catarina Carolina Magdalena geb 22 Augustus 1862
Ouders: Frederik Jacobus BOTHA
Aletta Catarina DE LANGE
Get: Hendrik Johannes VAN ASWEGEN
Elisabet Magdalena DE LANGE
Maria Catarina Carolina Magdalena NEL
Johannes Christoffel BOTHA
399 Pieter Christiaan geb 23 December 1862
Ouders: Johannes Cornelis BEZUIDENHOUT
Elisabetta Magdalena VENTER (geen lidmaat)
Get: Johanna Cecilia BEZUIDENHOUT (doopmoeder)
Pieter Christiaan BEZUIDENHOUT
Martha Johanna Wilhelmina JANSEN
GEDOOPT OP ZOUTPANSBERG DEN 7 DE JUNÿ 1863 DOOR DE PREDIKANT A.J. BEGEMANN VAN PRETORIA ? VAN 400 TOT EN MET 431
P 66
400 Paul Jacobus Frederik geb 14 Januarÿ 1863
Oud: Paul Jacobus Frederik ROOS
Maria Elisabet JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Get: Hendrik Christoffel JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Cornelia VISTER
Michiel Petrus JANSE VAN RENSBURG
401 Isabella Zacharya Johanna geb 13 November 1862
Ouders: Hendrik Johannes DUVINAGE
Isabella Johanna DUVINAGE
Get: Gerrit Johannes DUVINAGE
Susanna Zacharya VAN DÿK
Johannes Georg DUVINAGE
Jacoba Pieternella Francina DUVINAGE
402 Paulus Georg geb 4 Junÿ 1862
Ouders: Johan Petrus LAGRANGE
Catarina Elisabet JACOBS
Get: Jan Hendrik JACOBS
Cornelia Johanna Susanna ERASMUS
Lourens Martinus BRONKHORST
Anna Susanna GROBLER
403 Pieter Johannes geb 20 October 1862
Ouders: Jan Hendrik JACOBS
Cornelia Johanna Susanna ERASMUS
Get: Pieter GROBLER
Pieta Johanna BOTHA
Niklaas Johannes GROBLER
Pieternella Willemina DUPREZ
404 Pieternella Francina geb 3 Junÿ 1863
Ouders: Tobias Georg LAGRANGE
Johanna Sofya GROBLER
Get: Johannes Zacharias GROBLER
Maria Sofya Elisabet LAGRANGE
Sara Louias LAGRANGE
405 Hermanus Jacobus geb 15 November 1862
Ouders: Hermanus Jacobus POTGIETER
Johanna Magdalena Elisabet ROOS
Get: Johannes Jacobus ROOS
Anna Sofya BEETGES
Andries Hendrik POTGIETER
Neeltje Elisabet Philippina BOTHA
406 Jan Alberts geb 17 Mei 1863
Ouders: Philippus Paulus Jacobus JACOBS
Hester Maria Pieternella SMIT
Get: Jan Alberts JACOBS
Susanna Margaretha HERBST
P 67
407 Helena Catarina geb 18 Apr 1863
Ouders: Jacobus Johannes POTGIETER
Marta Maria Aletta SNÿMAN
Get: Johannes Jacobs ROETS
Sara Frederika POTGIETER
Paul Stefanus POTGIETER
408 Willem geb 27 Mei 1863
Ouders: Cornelis Johannes Andries LOTTERING
Marta Susanna PRETORIUS
Get: Petrus Christiaan PRETORIUS
Margarita Alida Sofya JACOBS
409 Stefanus Johannes geb 8? Feb 1863
Ouders: Stefanus Johannes JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Elisabetta Helena BOTHA
Get: David Johannes Stefanus HERBST
Hester Marta JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Johan Christiaan HERBST
...... Johanna Cornelia BOTHA
Joachim Petrus JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Vriendelike Groetnis,
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Boodskap 6a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:30 am (PST)
410 Susanna Margarita 23 Junÿ 1862
Ouders: Jan Alberts JACOBSE
Susanna Margarita HERBST
Get: David Johannes Stefanus HERBST
Hester marta JANSE VAN RENSBURG
411 Andries Hendrik geb 14 December 1862
Ouders: Willem Jan Hendrik POTGIETER
Johanna Wilhelmina LAGRANGE
Get: Andries Hendrik POTGIETER
Neeltje Elisabetta Philippina BOTHA
412 Maria Sofya Elisabet geb 9 December 1862
Ouders: Johannes Zacharias GROBLER
Maria Sofya Elisabet LAGRANGE
Get: Hermanus Jacobus GROBLER
Hester Sofya JACOBS
Willem Jan Hendrik POTGIETER
Johanna Willemina LAGRANGE
413 Neeltje Christina geb 5 Feb 1863
Ouders: Saul Elof GROBLER
Elsje maria KOETZER
Get: Dauw Gerbrand GROBLER
Neeltje Christina ELOF
Hermanus Jacobus GROBLER
Marrta Sofya JACOBS
P 68
414 Petrus Johannes geb 7 Januarÿ 1863
Ouders: Dauw Gerbrand GROBLER
Jacoba Hendrina ELOF
Get: Jacobus Niklaas ELOF (deurgeskrap)
Saul Johannes ELOF (deurgeskrap)
Anna Jacomina BOTHA (deurgeskrap)
Gescrap op versoek der ouders en twee andere in der plaats gevoegd door my : handtekening: Predikant S.E GROBLER
P. Chris. GROBLER GEB V. D. BERG
415 Martha Magritha Susanna geb 25 Maart? 1862
Ouders: Jan Willem JACOBS
Elisabet Susanna JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Get: Johannes Martinus BREET
Dorothea Carolina COMBRINK
Johannes Christiaan PRETORIUS
Margarita Alida Sofya JACOBS
416 Aletta Magdalena geb 2 Augustus 1862
Ouders: Niklaas SNÿMAN
Cornelia Geertruida EMMENIS
Get: Maria Johanna NEL
Stefanus Andries EMMENIS
Anna Fancina? ROETS ?
417 Antoinetta Dorothea geb 20 Decemb. 1862
Ouders: Georg Hendrik MARNITZ
Maria Magdalena FORTMAN
Get: Cornelis Abram Willem VAN WÿK
Susanna Margarita FORTMAN (doopmoeder)
418 Maria Elisabet geb 18 Julÿ1862
Ouders: Petrus Christoffel VERCEUIL
Maria Elisabet OLIVIER
Get: Johan Jacobus Andries VERCEUIL
Helena Catarina BOTHA
Samuel Hendrik VERCEUIL
Aletta Petronella GROBLER
419 Cornelis Johannes ABRAHAM geb 13 Januarÿ 1863
Ouders: Gerrit Petrus VAN WÿK
Anna Maria Adriana BREED
Get: Cornelis Johannes Abraham VAN WÿK
Christina Jacoba ROETS
Johannes Arnoldus BREED
...... ? ...... ? VAN WÿK
420 Lourens Mariÿn Andries geb 7 Februarÿ 1863
Ouders: Lourens Mariÿn NINÿS (NUNES)
Jacoba Magdalena MARNITZ
Get: Georg Andreas RAATH
Georg Frederik SNÿMAN
Helena BOTHA
P 69
421 Elisabet Neeltje geb 9 Augustus 1862
Ouders: Petrus Johannes VISTER (geen lidmaat)
Johanna Christina Carolina VAN DER MERWE
Get: Hendrik Christoffel JANSE VAN RENSBURG (doopvader)
Cornelia VISTER
Jan Johannes POTGIETER
Elisabet Cornelia VAN DER MERWE
422 Pieter geb 13 October 1862
Ouders: Pieter GROBLER
Johanna Adriana JACOBSE
Get: Jan Petrus JACOBSE
Hendrik Frederik GROBLER
Elisabet Johanna VORSTER
423 Christina Jacoba geb 21 Augustus 1862
Ouders: Gerardus Jacobus ROETS (geen lidmaat)
Marta Catarina DE WIT
Get: Gerrit Petrus VAN WÿK (doopvader)
Cornelis Johannes Abraham VAN WÿK
Christina Jacoba ROETS
424 Anna Maria Johanna geb 30 Maart 1862
Ouders: Dirk BROEKHOVEN
Wilhelmina Jacoba MARNITZ
Get: Jan VERCEUIL
Helena Catarina BOTHA
Christiaan Johannes RABE
Maria Johanna COMBRINK
425 Gesina Catarina geb 19 October 1862
Ouders: Frans Johannes Jacobus DUPREZ
Adriana Hendrina Aletta PRETORIUS
Get: Samuel Jacobus PRETORIUS
Gesina Catarina PRETORIUS
Schalk Willem VAN WÿK
Catarina Jacoba DE MEÿER
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert
Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 7a. JOUBERT x HEUNIS Posted by: "Ben Cilliers" [email protected] Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:39 am (PST)
Help asseblief!!
Het iemand dalk vir my inligting oor die ouers van,
Josua JOUBERT en sy vrou, Elizabeth Margaretha HEUNIS??
(Ook hulle kinders)
Hulle is in die omgewing van 1860 gebore.
Ben Cilliers Mosselbaai
Boodskap 7b. Re: JOUBERT x HEUNIS Posted by: "Simon du Plooy" [email protected] sjdp1951 Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:03 am (PST)
Goeiemiddag Ben,
Die twee is my grootjies van Ma-kant, ek stuur vir jou gesinsblad as aanhangsel direk.
Simon
Boodskap 8. Bossert SAG1 Posted by: "bosschris100" [email protected] bosschris100 Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:14 am (PST)
Is daar enigiemand wat my kan help met wat in die SAG1 oor die van Bossert bestaan
Dankie Chris
Boodskap 9. VOLGENDE MAANDVERGADERING: WES-GAUTENGTAK, GGSA Posted by: "Japie Bosch" [email protected] boschjapie Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:18 am (PST)
Neem asseblief kennis van die volgende vergadering van die Wes-Gauteng-tak van die GGSA.
DATUM: Saterdag, 19 Januarie 2008.
PLEK: NG Kerk,Philips Avenue, Ontdekkers, Roodepoort (kaart op www.westggsa.blogspot.com). TYD: 14:00;
SPREKERS: Bob Saunders, Argitektoniese Tegnikus en komitee-lid van die Wes- Gauteng-tak, ondersteun deur Alan Buff van die Johannesburgse Parke-afdeling.
ONDERWERP: Begraafplase in Suid-Afrika: Die Geskiedenis, die Huidige Stand en die Nasionale Beleid.
TOEGANG: R5,00 vir verversings.
ALMAL WELKOM.
Interessantheidshalwe kan genoem word dat dit in die argitekteberoep as 'n besondere voorreg bestempel word om 'n begraafplaas te ontwerp. Bob Saunders het reeds twee ontwerp.
Boodskap 10a. Re: Alwyn Schlebusch Posted by: "Helena Garner" [email protected] verdriet2000 Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:36 am (PST)
Aanvullende inligting: Isabella Elizabeth Krause + 12 -10-1996. A.L. Schlebusch xx 4-4- 1999, Jeanette Rouen (* Nel). Sy is 2 jaar gelede oorlede.
Daar is 'n stukkie oor sy loopbaan in die begrafnisbrief. Stel julle daarin belang?
Groete. Helena Garner.
Boodskap 10b. KAB & NGK Posted by: "Johan" [email protected] oobee25 Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:16 am (PST)
Hello almal
Ek is nuut tot die groep so verskoon as my vraag reeds vantevore gevra en ge-antwoord is.
Ek is besig met navorsing in my Oberholzer en verwante voorsate en wil graag weet of daar persone is wat ter vergoeding naslaanwerk en verkryging van afskrifte van dokumentasie by die Kaapse argiewe en die NGK argiewe in die kaap doen.
Ek het epos na van die persone op die NAAIRS webwerf gestuur maar geen antwoord.
Verneem ook of daar iemand is met foto's of info van van der Merwe en Oberholzer grafstene in Phillipolis - Vrystaat
Groete
Johan Oberholzer
Boodskap 10c. Re: Alwyn Schlebusch Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:59 am (PST)
Hallo Helena,
Plaas die Begrafnisbrief in geheel of Fotki ASB. As jy nie regkom nie, Skadeer dit en stuur vir my dan plaas ek dit. Groete,
Fanie Blignaut [email protected]
Boodskap 11a. Re: WYNAND - Ogies grafte Posted by: "Alta Roux" [email protected] genealogiefreak Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:43 am (PST)
>> Klipfontein begrafplaas.
Wynand, jong
Klipfontein le reg langs Ogies - en as ek reg kyk, is daardie hele wereld nou een groot oopmyn. Die grafte is dan seker verskuif na Witbank.
Groete Alta van Kinross
Boodskap 11b. Re: WYNAND - Ogies grafte Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:37 am (PST)
Hallo Alta en Wynand,
Alta is korrek. Daar is `n oopgroef steenkool myn wat strek vanaf die N4 snelweg tot by Ogies. As Klipfontein in daardie gebied was is hy nie meer nie.
Groetnis Annelie. Pretoria.
Boodskap 11c. Re: WYNAND - Ogies grafte Posted by: "Alta Roux" [email protected] genealogiefreak Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:14 am (PST)
Dit hang natuurlik af op watter gedeelte van Klipfontein die BP was. Die 'kolletjie' op die kaart is egter in die middel waar die groot werkerasie aan die gang is.
Alta
Boodskap 12a. Re: STRYDOM x VENTER Posted by: "bonnie sydow" [email protected] Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:53 am (PST)
Hallo Richard & ander vriende
My brief van 15.12.2007 waarin ek die identiteit van die 2de Johannes Jacobus STRYDOM vermoedelik s.v dieselfde gesin wou identifiseer het ek kontak gemaak met n seun van die STRYDOM & LUCKHOFF gesin wie bevestig het dat sy vader n jonger broer Johannes Jacobus (Japie) gehad het.
Baie, baie dankie Richard Y FORD vir die belangrike deurbraak.
Sterkte met al jul navorsing en mag jul almal deurbrake soos hierdie kry.
Groete vanaf Bellville
Bonnie
Boodskap 13a. BRITS x STRYDOM, sy xx OPPERMAN Posted by: "bonnie sydow" [email protected] Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:54 am (PST)
Dagsê Vriende
Op 8.12.2007 het ek aan julle geskryf ivm die volgende en inligting gevra oor die 2 egas van ACM STRYDOM
?SK TAB.32693 van Aletta Catharina Martha STRYDOM * 16.12.1854 + Doornpan, Wolmaransstad 7.7.1917, d.v. Solomon Ignatius STRYDOM & Elizabeth Jacoba DELPORT, x Potchefstroom19.4.1871 Ockert Cornelis BRITS xx Ockert Cornelis OPPERMAN. Haar SK gee die name van 4 BRITS & 5 OPPERMAN kinders?
Danksy Elizabeth Teir kon ek kontak maak met mev. Dora OPPERMAN en sy het Ockert Cornelis OPPERMAN geidentifiseer as
s.v. Philippus Albertus OPPERMAN & Sophia Dorothea Gezina BRITS.
Baie, baie dankie Elizabeth & Dora.
Dit het my laat dink dat Tobi Swart heelwaarsynlik reg was, toe hy saam met die aanstuur van die SK, gedink het dat Ockert Cornelis BRITS & Ockert Cornelis OPPERMAN moontlik neefs was.
Sal die BRITS kenners asseblief laat weet of hulle Ockert Cornelis BRITS kan identifiseer & of Tobi se raaiskoot inderdaad in die kol was.
Met vriendelike groete vanaf Bellville
Andrew (Bonnie) SYDOW
NS. Ek is steeds bereid om die skandering van die SK te deel met enigeen wat dit van die lys af versoek.
Boodskap 14a. Johanna Catharina CONRADIE Posted by: "dickydube" [email protected] dickydube Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:54 am (PST)
Goeie Middag Lys Lesers,
Is daar iemand wie my moontlik kan help met die voor en nasate van
Johanna Catharina CONRADIE *16/10/1841 +8/12/1934 Britstown
X 11/2/1861
Hermias Jacobus NIEUWOUDT *3/1/1839 +28/11/1921, Britstown
Ek waardeer enige hulp!!
Vriendelike groete, Cathy Nieuwoudt Birmingham V.S.A.
Boodskap 14b. Re: Johanna Catharina CONRADIE Posted by: "Daniel Jacobs" [email protected] Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:00 pm (PST)
Beste Cathy
Miskien lê jou antwoord by die Conradie-register wat op die internet beskikbaar is. Sien *[PDF]* die *CONRADIE* FAMILIE van Suid- Afrika
Groete
Daniel Jacobs www.gendata.co.za
Boodskap 15. Johanna Elizabeth OBERHOLZER Posted by: "dickydube" [email protected] dickydube Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:59 am (PST)
Middag Lys Lesers
Is daar moontlik iemand wie my kan help met die voor en nasate van
Johanna Elizabeth OBERHOLZER *1857 +oorlede voor 1902
X 4/2/1874
Hermanus Petrus NIEUWOUDT *28/7/1843 Richmond +Diyatalawa Hospitaal, Colombo,Ceylon
Enige hulp sal werklik waardeer word,
Vriendelike groete, Cathy Nieuwoudt Birmingham V.S.A. Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3060
Datum: Monday, January 14, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1. Binnelandse Sake en oorledenes From: aneendewitt
2. Henry F Novella From: Annemie Lourens
3. Ontmoet Abraham Brink From: Annemie Lourens
4. Re: Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand/ Sakkie v/d Merwe From: BD Leach
5. 'n Bietjie geskiedenis From: Louis Olivier
6a. Re: Ogies grafte / Langseekoeigat From: Alta Griffiths
6b. Re: Ogies grafte / Langseekoeigat From: Johan
6c. Re: Ogies grafte / Langseekoeigat From: Jorge Estreux
6d. Re: Ogies grafte / Langseekoeigat From: Alta Griffiths
7. Vir Bonnie Sydow: Strydom/Lückhoff From: Johan Wiesner
8. Nicolaas Kruger From: BD Leach
9a. Re: KAB & NGK From: Cornel Viljoen
9b. Re: KAB & NGK From: Johan
10a. Enige lid in Brisbane, Australië? From: Faan Naude, Rietfontein, PRETORIA
10b. Australiese telefoongids From: sastamouers
11. JOUBERT-familie From: Johan Brink
12a. Re: WYNAND - Ogies grafte From: Johan
13. [Koerant] Sunday Tribune 13 Januarie 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
14. Half-genealogiese navraag - Powerpoint From: Alta Roux
15a. [Koerant] The Mercury Maandag 14 Januarie 2008. From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
15b. [Koerant] The Mercury Maandag 14 Januarie 2008. From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
16. Fw: [SA-Gen] KAB & NGK From: Johan
17a. Re: Kommandant Danie Theron From: Nardus Vodacom
18. SWAZILAND ARGIEFFOTOS From: Viljoen, HC
19. Herman Labuschagne From: Johan Pottas Boodskap 1. Binnelandse Sake en oorledenes Posted by: "aneendewitt" [email protected] aneendewitt Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:05 pm (PST)
Hello Almal...
Ek het nou my goeters reg geskuif en daar dop Oupa se "werkloosheidsverserkingskaart" uit - met sy ID nommer. Dit gee my toe 'n gedagte en ek loop tik die nommer in op die Binnelandse Sake se "kom ons kyk of die man getroud is" spasie. Daar staan toe netjies MARRIED en die dag en datum. Moet daar nie staan "deceased" of iets nie? OUpa is al in 1995 oorlede! Of is ek nou toe?
Miskien moet ek maar gaan slaap...eish
Groete, Aneen
Boodskap 2. Henry F Novella Posted by: "Annemie Lourens" [email protected] annemielourens Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:49 pm (PST)
Henry F Novella
Oom Henry, soos ek hom maar leer ken het, is gebore op 17/8/1930 in die "Longhouse" of gemeenskapshuis op Slippersbaai. Sy oupa was Dominique Novella, 'n Franse seeman wat saam met ene Gustav de Boa van hulle skip gedros en hulle hier aan die Weskus kom vestig het. Dominique was oorspronklik van Bordeaux. Hier aan die Weskus is oom Henry streng grootgemaak met 'n gelyke dosis Godsdiens, liefde en dissipline. Skool en Sondagskool is bygewoon by die skooltjie op Uitvlug. In 1945 gaan hy na Esperanza Koshuis om sy Hoërskool opleiding by Vredenburg Hoërskool te begin. In Standerd 6 skryf hy "sommer met 'n potlood" 'n kinderverhaal wat kort daarna in Die Kleinspan verskyn het.
Van sy vakke in matriek sluit in See-Ekologie, Landbou en Biologie, wat hom dan ook in 1952 sy eerste werk by die Departement van Landbou besorg. As deel van die statistiek afdeling, mos hy die vroeë-oggendmark bywoon en die gemiddelde hoogste en laagste pryse uitwerk vir markberigte van SAUK Radio uitsendings.
Gedurende sy tyd by Dept. Landbou het hy nog steeds kinderverhale vir die Jeug- Burger geskryf. Max du Plessis van die SAUK het sy skryfwerk vir beide die kleinburger en die markberigte raakgesien en hom 'n pos as Byklanke Aanbiedings Operateur aangebied. Die volgende twee jaar was vir hom die hoogtepunte en mees interessante van sy loopbaan.
Mnr Schoonwinkel ('n kollega) en Henry Novella in 1951 in Sir Lowry-weg, Distrik Ses op pad na die Vroeë Oggendmark. Hoogtepunte van sy SAUK Tydperk sluit in: Maak van Koffiehuis programme met Pieter de Waal Ontmoeting met oorsese pianiste Rowitz en Landauer
Opneem van gedramatiseerde hoorspele o.a. "Giant", "Miranda" en "Watch the Wall, My Darling"
Opnames van Historiese Programme deur W A De Klerk, waar W A de Klerk ook sy eie regie waargeneem het.
Opnames van programme geskryf deur Morkel van Tonder, Dolf van Niekerk en Basie Hanekom.
Die maak van die program "Snoek Town Calling". 'n Program oor 'n familie Venter wat vis en kreef in Kaapstad se strate verkoop het.
"n Program gedoen oor die Kaapse Klopse vir 'n Duitser tydens die Riebeeck fees in 1952. Dit was die eerste keer dat daar in Kaapstad kennis gemaak is met die "Grundich" opname masjien. Oom Henry moes die aanbieding vir die program doen omdat hy die enigste aanbieder daar was wat Duits magtig was.
Opnames van kinderstories wat hyself geskryf het onder die regie van Yvonne de Villiers. Destyds moes hy ook self byklanke en agtergrondmusiek vir sy stories doen.
Al hierdie programme was Uniaal gedoen (in al vier Provinsies) en meeste was direkte uitsendings.
In 1954 keer hy terug Weskus toe as een van die eerste inspekteurs van voedsel vir die SABS. Met die uitsondering van twee jaar,vanaf 1957, in Walvisbaai, woon en werk hy aan die Weskus as senior vis-inspekteur van ingemaakte vis vir die area Saldanabaai tot Port Nolloth.
Oom Henry is op 11/12/1954 getroud met Dalene. 'n Nooi wat hy in 'n visfabriek in Gansbaai ontmoet het. Gevra wat hom na haar aangetrek het, is hy gou om te antwoord: "Aanpasbaarheid en soortgelyke agtergrond as hyself, en ja, sy was 'n beauty!".
Drie seuns is uit die huwelik gebore: Hentie op 26/11/1955 is in die kommando gebou (destyds die hospitaal) op Vredenburg gebore. Micky is gebore op 20/8/1957 in Walvisbaai. Hy was 'n pragtige, talentvolle en musikale jong man, wat tragies verongeluk het op 24/10/1975. Eknath (afgelei van die naam "Nathan" wat "given" beteken) is gebore op 27/9/1976. Tannie Dalene is aan baie Weskussers bekend vir haar Toneelwerk en haar jarelange betrokkenheid by Zan Zyl Brs. op Vredenburg.
Oom Henry Novella is vir my persoonlik 'n inspirasie. 'n Man wat nie net glo in 'n kern van eensgesindheid en eerlikheid nie, maar 'n man wat sy talente ten volle benut. 'n Man wat nie huiwer om te doen nie. 'n Man wat ek trots is om "Oom" te noem. Baie dankie Oom Henry
Boodskap 3. Ontmoet Abraham Brink Posted by: "Annemie Lourens" [email protected] annemielourens Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:50 pm (PST)
Ontmoet Abraham Brink
Saam met 'n Seerower op die kaai in St Thomas op die Vergin Eilande, tydens 'n onlangse seereis in die Karibiese Eilande. Abraham Brink is in die dertigjare op die familieplaas Drommelvlei naby Aurora in die Sandveld gebore. Hy het in die Sandveld en die Swartland skoolgegaan. Nadat hy in die vroëe sestigjare oorsee gewerk het, o.a. in die Amsterdamse Bank in Den Haag en op 'n plaas in Brittanje, het hy teruggekeer na Suid-Afrika en by die SA Vloot aangesluit. Hy het begin deur op 'n skip as skrywer (klerk) te dien. Na 'n draai in die privaatsektor het hy na die vloot teruggekeer en het jare later as skakelbeampte met die rang van kommandeur (S A Vloot) uitgetree het. Hier het hy selfdissipline geleer, vandag is dit 'n hoeksteen van sy lewensfilosofie.
Liewe leser, ag uself erg gelukkig dat ek dit reggekry het om bogenoemde inligting met jou te deel, want ten spyte van Abraham se gesonde selfbeeld, het die man 'n gawe om enige vraag oor homself te antwoord met staaltjies oor ten minste 7 ander interessante karakters wat hy ontmoet het. Hier is nou 'n storieverteller in die tradisionele sin, 'n ewige reisiger tussen mense, plekke en idees. In sy eie woorde: "There is no education like travelling."
Abraham beskou homself as 'n mense-mens, lief vir mense, lief vir reis en lief vir die natuur. Sy groot passie is om ander gelukkig te maak. Hy beskryf homself as ongelooflik nuuskierig en weetgierig. Sy bydrae tot die behoud van ons kultuur-historiese erfenis is enorm. Hy is lid van die nuutgestigde Weskus tak van die Botaniese vereniging van SA, lid van die ondersteuningsgroep van die Fossielpark, Vryskut joernalis wat al wyd gepubliseerd is en natuurlik skrywer en gereelde spreker op radio. Abraham se eerste boek, Rondom Soverby,is die verhaal van die vissersgemeenskap van Dwarskersbos en omgewing. Die boek is ook in Desember 1999 op Radio Namakwaland uitgesaai. Tans is hy besig met sy tweede boek, Sandveld Stories en 'n reeks artikels oor die Kings Guards.
Wat my die meeste opval van Abraham Brink is sy ongelooflike energie, passie en sin vir pret. Op 'n ouderdom wat meeste mense al terugsit en toeskouers word, jaag Abraham nog onverpoost om sy afsprake afgehandel te kry voor sy volgende golf-afspraak (met 'n spesiale poskaart vir die manne in 'n koevert in die briewetas).
Abraham op sy huurfiets op Malmesbury in die veertigerjare op pad om nog 'n avontuur te belewe. Hy glo dat 'n mens die argitek is van jou eie lewe en hy is duidelik nog nie klaar met die optrek van die planne nie. Doen so voort Abraham en baie dankie vir al jou kennis wat jy so ruim met ons deel
Boodskap 4. Re: Wespark begrafplaas vir Wynand/ Sakkie v/d Merwe Posted by: "BD Leach" [email protected] bdleach19490515 Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:59 pm (PST)
Beste Lede,
Ek het onlangs op pad na 'n onderhoud met Sakkie van der Merwe geluister op Radio Pretoria.
Hy het 'n olyfplaas (plaas klink baie indrukwekkend- dis maar so ongeveer 5 ha as ek reg onthou.) As ek verder reg onthou is hy met 'n Engelse vrou getroud. Sy bly voltyds op die plaas en het vir hom gesê hy moet die "vliegkoors" eers uit sy sisteem kry - derhalwe vlieg hy (deeltyds of op kontrak basis) vir een van die Arabiese rederye en besoek SA gereeld. Hy doen ook deeltydse werk vir Radio Pretoria.
Sy plasie is so 20 minute noord oos van Perth, Wes Australië in die sg. Swan Valley wat bekend is vir wyn produksie. Sakkie sê dat wynproduksie glad nie so gesog en betalend soos in SA is nie agv die geweldige hoë koste van arbeid. Olywe is baie minder arbeidsintensief. Hy sê dat hulle dit so reël dat al die familie en vriende wat vir hulle wil kom kuier, dit in die oestyd doen - dan help hulle oes in ruil vir verblyf daar anderkant. groete, barend leach
Wynand het gesê:-
Hello Janet en medegeners,
Sjoe dis interressant. Mag ek vra wanneer het die Sakkie Van der Merwe soontoe getrek. Olywe, dis heel vreemd vir ons boere, maar ek neem aan, boer maak 'n plan ne en waar 'n wil is is 'n weg. Miskien het ek ook die kat aan die stert gehad toe ek gese het Sakkie en ander oudvlieeniers was by 'n funksie onlangs hier. Miskien is dit 'n ander Sakkie wat julle van praat. Hy het soms weer gelees op SAUK nuus in die tagtiger en begin negentigerjare, die Sakkie waarvan ek praat......
Boodskap 5. 'n Bietjie geskiedenis Posted by: "Louis Olivier" [email protected] Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:15 pm (PST)
* 'n Bietjie Oli4 en 'n brug geskiedenis
http://www.ovk.co.za/Data/July_06_Web_649.pdf ALIWAL-NOORD SE PRAGTIGE
BRÛE, DIE HERTZOG BRUG EN SY
VOORGANGER, DIE FRERE BRUG
Ons huldig hier 'n verlore, halfvergete brug van groot aansien, die Frere brug, en sy waardige, pragtige opvolger, die Hertzog brug - **Berig: MC Fourie *
Die Frere brug van Aliwal-Noord is in 1881 voltooi en was baie geliefd, gesog en uiters noodsaaklik, maar jare later, toe hy versorging vereis het, wou niemand verantwoordelikheid vir hom aanvaar nie. Sy verhaal van verwering en verwerping verteenwoordig 'n stuk tragedie in ons geskiedenis. Maar kom ons begin by die begin.
In 1874 is wetgewing in die Kaap uitgevaardig, die 'Orange River Bridges Act, 1874', waarvolgens brûe oor die Oranjerivier gebou moes word, 'n uitvloeisel van inisiatiewe vir wetgewing wat al in 1872 aan die gang gesit is. Samewerkingsooreenkomste tussen die regerings van die Kaapkolonie en die Vrystaat was die logiese uitvloeisel daarvan. Die vier aangeduide plekke daarvoor was Aliwal-Noord, Bethulie, Colesberg en Hopetown.
Dit is ook gestipuleer dat die regering 'n bedrag geld daarvoor sal invorder wat nie 300000 pond sterling sal oorskry nie. Ooreenkomste sou met die regerings van Griekwaland-Wes, * met verwysing na die ou wa-brug te Hopetown waaroor ons al rapporteer het*, en die Oranje Vrystaat, *vir die ander brûe*, aangegaan word. Die Frere brug by Aliwal-Noord is in 1881 voltooi (gebou 1880 tot 1881) en was die eerste oor die Oranje wat geopen is. Tolgeld is gevra tot in 1912.
Die Frere brug was pragtig, soos uit die foto's gesien kan word.
Maar ongelukkig, toe noodsaaklike instandhoudingswerk jare later nodig geword het, het sowel die Kaapkolonie en die Vrystaat se regerings hulle aanspreeklikheid daartoe ontken en het die brug geleidelik bly agteruitgaan. Die gevolg was dat die brug uiteindelik gevaarlik geraak en toe in 1937 deur die Hertzog brug vervang is. (*Die ou wa-brug by Hopetown is op pad na dieselfde lot as dringende aandag nie spoedig aan hom gegee word nie, en hy is veral kwesbaar omdat hy nie meer 'n sleutelrol daar vervul nie!*)
Hier is 'n interessante brokkie vanuit die AngloBoere-oorlog rakende die Frere brug en die inval van Aliwal-Noord deur die Rouxville kommando van 450 man onder bevel van kommandant Jan Hendrik Olivier (*van Olifantsbeen, Zastron*). Hulle het Aliwal-Noord geannekseer vir die Oranje Vrystaat! Ons haal 'n handgeskrewe nota aan (sic) wat saam met 'n foto was (wat verlore gegaan het) met opskrif *Die intog oor die brug*: "Ons staan hier op die pilaar van die Ou Wa-brug oor die Oranje Rivier wat is 1882 gebou is. Met die uitbreek van die Anglo-Boere Oorlog was kommandant Olivier met die Rouxville kommando die eerste om die Kaapkolonie in te val.
Met sy aankoms by die Oranje Rivierbrug op 13 November 1899 is die Magistraat van Aliwal-Noord, mnr. Hugo, gelas om die voorwaardes van Oorgawe aan die Vrystaatkant te onderteken. Aangesien 'n gerug die rondte gedoen het dat die brug opgeblaas sou word, is die Magistraat, mnr. Hugo, en sy gevolg, gelas om in die middel van die brug te staan terwyl die kommando oortrek. Hiervandaan het die boeremag na die Markplein beweeg, waar die amptelike oorname van die staatskantore geneem is." (Die logiese argumentering was natuurlik dat die brug nie deur die kolonianers opgeblaas sou * word as hulle belangrike man, die magistraat, en 'n paar ander ewe belangrikes met hom, op die brug staan nie!)
Voor die treinbrug oor die Oranje by Aliwal voltooi is, is 'n spoorlyn ook oor die Frere brug gelê en het dit vir 'n kort tyd diens as pad- sowel as treinbrug gelewer. Na die nuwe Hertzog brug in 1937 voltooi is, is die Frere brug afgebreek. Die brughoof van die ou brug is egter behou en die massiewe klipboë van gedresseerde klip (sien die ou foto's), eie aan die brûe van daardie tyd, is steeds daar.
Bronne en verwysings:
• Dokumentasie oor wetgewing oor brûe vanuit Aliwal-Noord Museum
• Dennis Coetzee, Aliwal-Noord Museum en Kerkplein Museum
• Oosthuizen, A V: "Rebelle van die Stormberge", 1994. (J P van der Walt en Seun (Edms) Bpk
Iets interessant oor Generaal Olivier:
Generaal J H Olivier, wat Aliwal-Noord vir die Vrystaatse Republiek geannekseer het en dit weer na vier maande moes prysgee, was een van die boerekrygsgevangenes op Ceylon. Heelwat boere het aansoek gedoen om daar werk te doen. Olivier is deur die goewerneur van die kolonie, Sir West Ridgeway, versoek om die regering raad te gee by 'n perdetelery op Delft, 'n eilandjie aan die noordkus van Ceylon, wat hy dan ook gedoen het. Op sy advies is die telery stelselmatig georganiseer en verbeter. * -- Linda & Louis Olivier Pretoria 0128031028 [email protected] [email protected] Olivier, Coetzee, Swart, du Plooy Boodskap 6a. Re: Ogies grafte / Langseekoeigat Posted by: "Alta Griffiths" [email protected] griffithsalta Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:41 pm (PST)
Waar is Langseekoeigat??? Ek dink van my grootjies is daar begrawe! My ouma was op die plek gebore. Enige idee?
Alta Griffiths Posbus 1998 DURBANVILLE 7551
Tel: 021 - 975 5491 Sel: 083 948 5207
Navorsing: Volle vanne:- Rudolph, Van der Sandt, Gloy, Cothill. Asook die Oliviers en Slabberts van Heidelberg, Tvl tot by 1930
Boodskap 6b. Re: Ogies grafte / Langseekoeigat Posted by: "Johan" [email protected] oobee25 Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:25 pm (PST)
Alta
Daar is een in die Vrystaat (S29 58 36.1 E25 43 00.1) en een in Gauteng (S26 25 35.1 E28 39 29.8)
Die een in die Vrystaat is langs die R704 tussen Trompsburg en Jagerfontein. die een in Gauteng is tussen Devon en Mackenzieville, draai van die R550 af.
Groete
Johan
Boodskap 6c. Re: Ogies grafte / Langseekoeigat Posted by: "Jorge Estreux" [email protected] jorgeestreux Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:49 pm (PST)
Ata,
Daar is n Langzeekoegat tussen Springs en Devon. My ouers het daar op n plaas gebly.
Gert
Boodskap 6d. Re: Ogies grafte / Langseekoeigat Posted by: "Alta Griffiths" [email protected] griffithsalta Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:15 pm (PST)
Dankie Johan en Gert
>> Daar is n Langzeekoegat tussen Springs en Devon. My ouers het daar op n >> plaas gebly.
Is dit net plase? Oumagrootjie is dood in 1916. Sou daar een BP gewees het - of sal mens die regte plaas moet probeer vind? Dit sal 'n groot soektog afgee - hulle was bywoners!
Alta Griffiths Posbus 1998 DURBANVILLE 7551
Tel: 021 - 975 5491 Sel: 083 948 5207
Navorsing: Volle vanne:- Rudolph, Van der Sandt, Gloy, Cothill. Asook die Oliviers en Slabberts van Heidelberg, Tvl tot by 1930
Boodskap 7. Vir Bonnie Sydow: Strydom/Lückhoff Posted by: "Johan Wiesner" [email protected] Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:42 pm (PST)
Beste Bonnie,
Ek was vir so 'n maand weg met liev, en het maar eers 'n paar dae gelede weer teruggekom om in die blare ou roetine in te val!! Vakansie al klaar vergete!
Toe ek vandag eers kans kry om deur my opgehoopte iemyle werk, kom ek af op jou 2 oor die Strydom/Lückhoff-verbintenis.
Omdat die Lückhoffs baie nou inskakel by die Albertyns, is hulle (die Lückhoffs) taamlik omvattend in my Albertyn-stamboom opgeneem. Dus ook die Strydom/Lückhoff- kombinasie deur die Lückhoff-lyn. Ek het dié Lückhoffs goed geken --- nie net vanweë ons familieverbintenis nie, maar ook omdat hulle jare lank in die strandhuis net langs ons s'n by die Palmietrivier, net buite Kleinmond, vakansie gehou het. Sy (Tannie Elsa) is akteur Paul Lückhoff se tante; Paul se pa, Oom Paul, was Elise se jonger broer.
As jy belangstel, kan ek vir jou die Lückhoff-inligting verskaf --- al Tannie Elsa se voor- en nasate. My inligting oor die Strydoms is egter weer so te sê nul. Kan jy dan dalk op jou beurt hulle inligting vir my laat kry asseblief?
Baie dankie byvoorbaat daarvoor.
Groete,
Johan Wiesner.
Boodskap 8. Nicolaas Kruger Posted by: "BD Leach" [email protected] bdleach19490515 Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:51 pm (PST)
Beste Lede,
Tussen my boeke wat ek probeer orden (is daar iemand wie se boeke nie reggepak moet word nie?), kry ek 'n piepklein boekie (14 bladsye)- BEKERINGSWEG van NICOLAAS KRUGER. Dit is basies 'n soort geloofsbeleidenis van Kruger wat in 1892 na sy dood (in 1889) deur sy seun uitgegee is.
Voorin is 'n lewens skets van hom. Ek weet nie of dit dalk 'n bekende persoon was en ou nuus is nie, maar gee nietemin sy gegewens vir wat dit werd is.
Nicolaas KRUGER * 16 Desember 1803 + 16 Desember 1889 (op sy 86e verjaardag). Hy was 50 jaar getroud met Maria Elizabeth KRUGER (weet nie of dit haar nooiensvan was nie).
Hy het na sy vrou se dood by sy een seun Petrus Cornelis gewoon. Die laaste drie maande van sy lewe het hy by 'n ander seun Jacob deurgebring. Sy ander seun was F.J.M.KRUGER - hy het die boekie uitgegee. Die seuns se geboortedatums word ongelukkig nie gegee nie. Hy het gewoon op die plaas Doordrift, distrik Venterstad. groete, barend leach
Boodskap 9a. Re: KAB & NGK Posted by: "Cornel Viljoen" [email protected] cornel.viljoen Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:55 pm (PST)
Goeie dag Johan,
Ek het reeds baie navorsing oor die Oberholzer familie in die Vrystaat gedoen.
Ek het graag uit waar ek kan. Indien jy die inligting waaroor jy tans beskik aan my kan stuur, sal ek kyk wat ek op rekord het.
Groete, Cornel Viljoen Melbourne, Australie
Boodskap 9b. Re: KAB & NGK Posted by: "Johan" [email protected] oobee25 Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:16 pm (PST)
Dag se Cornel
Dankie vir die vriendelike aanbod
My Oupgrootjie was 'n Jan Valentine Oberholzer geb. 20 Jun 1878 in Phillipolis, oorl. 14 April 1978 in JanKempdorp, hy was getroud met Dorethea Catharina v Rensburg geb. 6 Jan 1885, oorl. 4 Jan 1962 en ek dink ook in Jan Kempdorp daar is so 'n graf met die datums, Sy ma Anna Margaretha (vander Merwe) saam met sy tweelingbroer is met die geboorte oorlede, so ek vermoed hulle is in Phillipolis begrawe.
Sy pa was 'n Guilliam of Guillaume Johannes en kan Oberholster of zer wees. My Oupa was 'n Guillaume so dit is waarskynlik dat hy Guillaume was
My oupe se broers was
Giel Albertus (daar mag nog wees)
en suster Martha wat met 'n Swiegers getrou het.
Ek probeer informasie inwin oor DC v Rensburg se vader Nicolaas Johannes (Jansen) v Rensburg asook AM vd Merwe.
Boodskap 10a. Enige lid in Brisbane, Australië? Posted by: "Faan Naude, Rietfontein, PRETORIA" [email protected] Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:42 pm (PST)
Vriende
Ek wil graag kontak maak met 'n lid van die lys wat in Brisbane, Australië woon. Die versoek het wel 'n genealogiese agtergrond. Ek wil graag hê dat die persoon vir my 'n telefoonnommer in hul plaaslike telefoongids opkyk asseblief.
Is Brisbane se telefoongids is nie dalk op die Internet nie?
Baie dankie by voorbaat.
Groete
Faan Naudé NAUDÉ-navorser Rietfontein, PRETORIA
Boodskap 10b. Australiese telefoongids Posted by: "sastamouers" [email protected] sastamouers Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:34 pm (PST)
Hallo Faan,
Ek woon in Brisbane
Maar dit is maklik, jy kan self die telefoongids opkyk vir Australie. As jy iemand in Brisbane soek, dan val dit onder die staat van Queensland http://www.whitepages.com.au/wp/initResSearch.do
Groete Andre v R
11. JOUBERT-familie Posted by: "Johan Brink" [email protected] Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:15 pm (PST)
Kan iemand dalk help?
(1) Ek soek informasie oor die ouers van Catharina Maria JOUBERT *Kaapstad ca 7.12.1789 +(60jr) Kaapstad 23.11.1851 x Kstd 4.7.1808 Andries BRINK, sakeman, = Kstd 16.11.1788 +(58jr) Kstd 7.8.1846 [vlgs beide van hulle se SK's
(2) Ek wil graag die volgende opgeklaar kry!!
Maria Magdalena BRINK *Wagenmakersvallei 13.3.1798 =Paarl 18.3.1798 +ca.1850 x Paarl 7.5.1814 Stephanus Andries JOUBERT [vlgs die huweliksregister] =28.8.1785 [SAGR Deel 4, p180] , 1s 2d xx (as weduwee van S.A. JOUBERT (op 33jr) Paarl 13.5.1832 Andries Petrus ZEEMAN, wewenaar van 46jr van Groenberg [vlgs die huweliksregister]
{In die Malan-boek, p90 word Stephanus Andries (verkeerd?) aangegee as MALAN terwyl doopregister, huweliksregister, GGSA se CD Stamboom, p376, asook SAGR Deel 4 dit aangee JOUBERT}
Was dit ook dieselfde Maria Magdalena ZEEMAN née JOUBERT née BRINK wat later xxx Johann Andreas Christoph DIRKER, die stamvader wat in 1820 arr vanuit Wesfale D. en ook xxxx te George 31.3./1.4.1827 Henry SHARE *Yorkshire 1786 +1850 ??
Groete
Johan Brink Vermont, Hermanus [BRINK, EAGAR/EAGER, (VON) DURING]
Boodskap 12a. Re: WYNAND - Ogies grafte Posted by: "Johan" [email protected] oobee25 Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:47 pm (PST)
Wynand
Voordat die myn kan begin moet hulle 'n OIS (omgewings inpak(?) studie - engels EIA) doen, dit sal al die grafte se inligting moet lys. Nader die myn self dit is BHP Billiton en dieHoofbestuurder is mnr Richard Kenny om die inligting te bekom.
Groete
Johan
Boodskap 13. [Koerant] Sunday Tribune 13 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:31 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:- " Positive attitudes....come in unlimited quantities. Everybody can have one free! " Harvey MACKAY.
GEBOORTES:- REES Dave & Jennie 'n seun Kyan *25 Des 2007 in Vancouver. Kleinkind vir Penny & Alan en agterkleinkind vir Beryl ROSENTHAL. > [email protected] < .
ROBINSON nee PERLING Gary & Melisa 'n dogter Jade Rachel .Kleinkind vir Mike & Iona .
ROBSON /HAUPTFLEICH Stuart & Sherene 'n dogter Ella * 7/12/2007 in Westville Hospitaal.
ROSS Simon & Marlise 'n dogter Mia Veronica. Suster vir Adrian.
VIDAL- ROBINSON Mark & Maria 'n 2de seun Tiago Daniel * 27/12/2007 . Boetie vir Luca Alexandre.
WHITFIELD Grieg & Micki 'n seun Steven * 31/12/2007 . Kleinkind vir Denzil en Lydia.
VERJAARSDAG :- CAWOOD-WILSON Kerri-Leigh 18 jaar. Van ouers , Sandra & Ernest, Wendy & Marius, Clive Jnr, Trevor & Kate en hulle kinders.
VERLOWINGS:- ARCHER - ROETS Gary & Eillene se dogter Gaylene aan Brad, enigste seun van Lynn.
CLACK /MAUJEAN Ken & Wendy se dogter Lorryn aan Gilbert, jongste seun van Cyril & Gill.
CLARK Allan & Angela se oudste seun Shane aan Monika ,enigste dogter van Fred & Diane ZURCHER.
GREENBAUM Hilton & Lesley se ouer dogter Sara aan Julian, seun van Paula & Raylene RAYNOLDS. TEL:-Sara 0823732218.
GROBLER Pam & Ray se seun Wayne aan Cloe , dogter van Robert & Bridget BRAITHWAITE van UK.
KJELLINGEinar Wilhelm en Maren Isabella KARLSEN van Noorwee se seun Mats aan Natasha Ruth ,dogter van Wendy & + Isaac -MAHARAJ .
MAIDSTONE - WILLIAMS Sean aan Chantal. Liefde van MAIDSTONE ,HOWSE, WILLIAMS & LEIBRANDT Families.
SUTHERLAND Andrew & Diane se oudste dogter Katherine aan Robert Bruce ,seun van Hilda & + Dr Roy McINTOSH.
VERBAAN - VAN LOGGERENBERG Frank & Erica en Hans & Elize se kinders Claire en Werner is verloof.
DOOD:- BETHELDO Diane .Sal jou glimlag mis soggens voor jy werk toe gaan en as jy terugkom . Van jou man Albert. Ma van Brett en Lindsay en ouma. Vriende by die werk TYSON Ptn. Begrafnis by The Pinetown Methodiste Kerk op 16/01/2008 om 10 vm. Verassing privaat. Ingesit deur SHANLEY'S. 0312057644.
BLAINE Alma 13/02/1927 ----15/12/2007 x + Dr Matthew G. BLAINE. Memorial 26/01/2008 om 11 vm by Methodiste Kerk Bluff.
BLISS Harold. x Anne. Simpatie van Ian, Desiree ,Tammy en Shandre PLATYES. " Tribute" op 20/01/2008 om 11 vm by Durban Botanic Gardens ,besoekers sentrum.
DANIELS Roy x Rose.Pa van Robyn, Rochelle en Roxanne. Begrafnis 15/01/2008 by The Ebeneezer Worship Centre Bluff. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
FELGATE Walter + in Johannesburg . Vriend van Roger en Charlie.
HONIBALL William Gert + 09/01/2008 . Broer van Yvonne en Dalene Ingesit deur SHANLEY'S. 0312057644.
HUGHES Ian + 08/01/2008 x Christine. Pa van Joanna, Cathy en David. Skoonpa van Dave en Clifton. Oupa van Carys, Morgan, Emma en Nicholas. Seun van Evelyn. Memorial by Flame Lily Malvern 14/01/2008 om 0930vm. Ingesit deur BELL Funerals.
ISSACS Grant x Miriam . Pa van Ethan, en Joshua . Seun van die ISSACS en PARUK families. Requiem Mass by St Anthony's Katolieke Kerk Greyville 14/01/2008 om 1030 vm. Daarna na Mariannhill Begraafplaas. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
LYN ENGELA (voorheen MULLER nee REID ) Ma en ouma van Paula, David en Caroline, skoonma van Ginny. Ouma van Candice, Branden en Sean. Verassing privaat.
MANN Ronnie 23/05/1946 ---11/01/2008 x Sandra vir 44 jaar.Pa van Tracey x Wayne;Clarissa x Hilton , en oupa van Tyla en Jake. Tweeling van Errol. Broer en Swaer van Marilyn, Wayne, Monique, Oliver, Norman en Daphne. Memorial by Grace family Church , Umhlanga Rocks op 16/01/2008 om 11vm.
McDONALD Valerie Patricia . Suster van Carol ,Alexandra, Licia ,Karl en Gavin.Ook van suster Pam WILLMOTT en kinders Victoria, Julia en André , Max en Gabriella. Simpatie aan Bruce & Lauren, Mandy en Mark, Ethan en Ella Rose. Memorial by Glenridge Church op 14/01/2008 om 1430 nm. Daarna samekoms by McDONALD Huis La Lucia.
MOLLER Johnny . Begrafnis 15/01/2008 by Stellawood Kapel Stellawood begraafplaas. om 10 vm. Ingesit deur AVBOB 031 2061831.
MORRIS Daphne + 09/01/2008.Ma van Russell en Maureen. Ouma van Misha en Liam. Verassing privaat. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
OLIVER Lionel William 31/12/1929 ----09/01/2008 x Pat .Pa van Kevin en Ian. Skoonpa van Maryanne .Oupa van Shannon en Caitlyn.
SMITH nee WOOD Sthoreen Pamela 09/02/1921 ------09/01/2008.
STEPHAN -SMITH Guy + 09/01/2008 in London. Broer van Lynnette se tel. nr. 0312011836.
TILLIM Tony x Clarita . Simpatie ook van Personeel by Silk by Design.
WADE Esther May 26/05/1908 ------09/01/2008 Tannie en groot tante van Michael, Roddy, Bruce, Hulett en families. Suster van Bernard, Herbert, Billy WADE en Betty HULETT. Memorial by DOVES Greyville 16/01/2008 om 10 vm. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
MEMORIAM:-BAXTER Richard Peter + 13/01/2006 x Jennie en hondjie Flossie.
CLARIVETTE Peter 15/04/1925----11/01/2007 Van Terry (HTH)
ELGAR Ken .Liefde van Danette. Broer van Barbara, Garth en familie.
EYSELE Karl. 9 jaar dood nou. Liefde van Mandy, Kyle en Marius.
GROOM Matthew 04/01/2006-----12/01/2006 Onthou deur Ouers ,Dean en DJ.
HAMPSON Ruby .Ma van Sue, Ron, Eloise, Judy en Roger.
LA MARQUE Mervyn Anthony . 19 jaar dood nou. Seun van Leslie en Eilieen.
MONTZOURIS Maria + 13/01/1998. Ma, ouma en oumagroot. Van Manuel , Doddy en Maria, Poppy en Stan, Sheila, Manoli, Nick, Peter, Catherine en Manolaki, Thel, Mike, Maria, Nick, Andrea en Evangelia.
PETERSEN Freda Margaret + 13/01/2000 .Onthou deur Andre, Jacky en Jacinta.
STEWART Shirley . 6 jaar dood nou. Onthou deur Ma en Peter. Suster van Colin.
STRIKE Reg . Man ,Pa en oupa.Onthou deur Dot, Glen, Arlene, Phil, Debs en kleinkinders.
TOERIEN Lindsay . 10 jaar dood nou. Dogter en suster .
WINKWORTH Brian Terrence + 12/01/1998 . Man, pa en oupa .Gemis deur Coral , Trevor, Leigh, Fatty en families.
YUNNIE Dorothy . 4 jaar dood nou. Onthou deur Michael, Colleen en Debbie.
DANKIE:- FORD Alet. Colin en familie bedank doktors DYER & WISE en personeel by Entabeni Hospitaal vir liefdevolle sorg van Alet met haar afsterwe.
Gegroet uit baie bedompige Durban waar die weer nie kan besluit of hy wil reen of nie . Dit het skielik honde en katte begin reen hier omtrent na 5 vm.
Rita Quebbemann..
Boodskap 14. Half-genealogiese navraag - Powerpoint Posted by: "Alta Roux" [email protected] genealogiefreak Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:35 pm (PST)
Lysteraars
Hierdie navraag het betrekking op 'n projekkie wat ek wil aanpak, maar aangesien ek totaal B.C. is, het ek hulp nodig, en verkieslik stap-vir-stap hulp:
Ek wil 'n klompie ou foto's in 'n Powerpoint Presentation omskep. Ek het 'n ou bandopname waar iemand vertel hoe hy in die ABO gewond is. My seun sal dit op 'n CD kan skryf, maar dit is my probleem - ek kan die Powerpoint doen, maar hoe koppel ek die vertelling/musiek aan die foto's?
Help asseblief - van die lys af, anders kry ek groot moeilikheid. My adres is [email protected]
Dankie! Alta van Kinross
Boodskap 15a. [Koerant] The Mercury Maandag 14 Januarie 2008. Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:16 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:- " Continual cheerfulness is a sign of wisdom." Irish Saying.
GEBOORTES:- LUYT /VAN BLERK Ryan & Julia 'n seun Matthew * 11/01/2008 in Parklands.
DOOD :- ALDERTON Peter 04/05/1940 -----10/01/2008. Metgesel van Lesley. Pa Liz, Rob en Ange., Berig ingesit deur Les, Rob, Ange, Graham ,Liz, Roger, Thomas en Alex. Broer van Bobby, Gill, Kim, Guy, Mark en familie.
DICKERSON nee BLACKBURN Phyllis + 11/01/2008 x Frank. Ma van Glen, Bradley en familie. Diens by Church of the Nazarene Morningside 3nm. op 17/01/2008.
STEVENS . Aan Phillip ,Cindy, Michael, Sarah, Ryan, Lisa, Jared en Keira Simpatie van die Penzance Skool Personeel en familie en ook die Body Corporate.
TATHAM Lorraine Anne Shepstone + 09/01/2008 x Errol. Ma van Bridget, Nigel ,Claire en Douglas.Skoonma van Rob,Sue, Andrew en Allison en ouma. Begrafnis by Cathedral Of The Holy Nativity op 14/01/2008 om 2.30nm.
VISSER Signy Lynn. Ma van Shaun en Bjorn Dogter van Dede & Enid COOKE.
MEMORIAM:- LEITE Rosa Da Siva 1955----2004. Ma van Joselle en Marco.
McINTOSH Monique + 14/01/2006. Dogter en suster. Ingesit deur ma, Jackie ,Louis en familie.
MULLANE Michael Patrick + 14/01/2007 . Ingesit deur Anne Marie.
MUSCUTT Paul. Seun en broer. Onthou deur Ouers ,Melinda ,Peter ,Lauren, Bradley ,Daniel en Emma.
POWYS Samuel Julius Alexander + 14/02/1970 " Samuel Gerald Lancelot + 01/02/1970 " Samuel Clement Valentine + 25/03/1991 " Samuel Arthur Cornelius + 23/06/1965. Broers en ooms van Amy, Esme en Trevor POWYS.
Gegroet uit Durban. Rita Quebbemann
Boodskap 15b. [Koerant] The Mercury Maandag 14 Januarie 2008. Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:17 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:- " Continual cheerfulness is a sign of wisdom." Irish Saying.
GEBOORTES:- LUYT /VAN BLERK Ryan & Julia 'n seun Matthew * 11/01/2008 in Parklands.
DOOD :- ALDERTON Peter 04/05/1940 -----10/01/2008. Metgesel van Lesley. Pa Liz, Rob en Ange., Berig ingesit deur Les, Rob, Ange, Graham ,Liz, Roger, Thomas en Alex. Broer van Bobby, Gill, Kim, Guy, Mark en familie.
DICKERSON nee BLACKBURN Phyllis + 11/01/2008 x Frank. Ma van Glen, Bradley en familie. Diens by Church of the Nazarene Morningside 3nm. op 17/01/2008.
STEVENS . Aan Phillip ,Cindy, Michael, Sarah, Ryan, Lisa, Jared en Keira Simpatie van die Penzance Skool Personeel en familie en ook die Body Corporate.
TATHAM Lorraine Anne Shepstone + 09/01/2008 x Errol. Ma van Bridget, Nigel ,Claire en Douglas.Skoonma van Rob,Sue, Andrew en Allison en ouma. Begrafnis by Cathedral Of The Holy Nativity op 14/01/2008 om 2.30nm.
VISSER Signy Lynn. Ma van Shaun en Bjorn Dogter van Dede & Enid COOKE.
MEMORIAM:- LEITE Rosa Da Siva 1955----2004. Ma van Joselle en Marco.
McINTOSH Monique + 14/01/2006. Dogter en suster. Ingesit deur ma, Jackie ,Louis en familie.
MULLANE Michael Patrick + 14/01/2007 . Ingesit deur Anne Marie.
MUSCUTT Paul. Seun en broer. Onthou deur Ouers ,Melinda ,Peter ,Lauren, Bradley ,Daniel en Emma.
POWYS Samuel Julius Alexander + 14/02/1970 " Samuel Gerald Lancelot + 01/02/1970 " Samuel Clement Valentine + 25/03/1991 " Samuel Arthur Cornelius + 23/06/1965. Broers en ooms van Amy, Esme en Trevor POWYS.
Gegroet uit Durban. Rita Quebbemann
Boodskap 16. Fw: [SA-Gen] KAB & NGK Posted by: "Johan" [email protected] oobee25 Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:27 pm (PST)
Cornel
Hou net so bietjie vas met die een, ek gaan seker maak oor daai Anna Margaretha, ek het dit per telfoon van my oupe se laaste oorlewende suster gekry, maar sy mag haar misgis oor die voorname, die vd Merwe is korrek. Ek sal ook seker maak oor my grootoupa Jan se tweelingbroer of hy wel met geboorte oorlede is, en of hy kort daarna oorlede is, ek weet hy is vroeg in sy lewe oorlede, mag miskien nie by geboorte wees nie.
Groete
Johan
Boodskap 17a. Re: Kommandant Danie Theron Posted by: "Nardus Vodacom" [email protected] Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:43 pm (PST)
Ria,
Ek sal bly wees om van die verdere inligting wat interessant mag wees, te wete te kom. Ek bly in die omgewing en het die meeste plekke self gesien. Daar was `n burger Nel (Hoop ek onthou die naam reg)saam met hom op die betrokke dag van die skermutseling en hulle het saam koffie gedrink by `n boer die oggend.Uit oorlewering uit die omgewing was Danie Theron deur van sy makkers as somstyds te voortvarend beskou.`n Kleinkind van `n jong penkop wat altyd sy perd vasgehou het, Majoor Harris van Potchefstroom, beweer dat dit op die` speslfieke dag dieselfde was en dat Danie vir Burger Nel alleen gelaat het en die Engelse alleen gaan voorlê het nadat die Generaal wie van Deelkraal se kant moes kom, nie opgedaag het nie.(Ek bly op Deelkraal) Die Dawitz - mense wie vermeld word as wie `n vlag gemaak het om in sy kis te plaas, se afstammelinge bly ook nog digby die area. Ek is nie baie seker presies hoe die Dawitz gespel word nie,maar dit is anders as die gewone Dawits of Dawids met `n “Z” iewerste in.
Die oordrewe voortvarendheid kan miskien gestaaf word met voorvalle soos die Moneypenny - aanranding en die voorval iewers in Oos – Transvaal (Lydenburg of Machadodorp, nie seker meer) waartydens hy ook die predikant na `n preek wou regsien na aanleiding van `n preek wat teen die Afrikaner gemik was.
Dit was vir my interessant om ook vir die eerste keer kritiek teenoor Theron te beleef aangesien hy van kindsbeen af altyd as baie groot held beskou was. (Natuurlik nog steeds, nieteenstaande die kritiek)
Groete
Nardus
Boodskap 18. SWAZILAND ARGIEFFOTOS Posted by: "Viljoen, HC " [email protected] hc_viljoen Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:59 pm (PST)
Beste SAGenealoë
'n Interessante reeks argieffotos vanaf die 1880's tot die 1990's verskyn op die webwerf van die Swaziland argief by http://www.sntc.org.sz/sdphotos/index.asp Die fotos is geneem deur Joseph Rausher (tandarts en fotograaf) en illustreer die lewe 'n eeu gelede, veral in Bremersdorp. So bv is daar 'n foto van genl Ben Viljoen en die Krugersdorp Vrijwillige Cavallerie Corps by http://www.sntc.org.sz/sdphotos/photo.asp?pid=75
'n Ander interessante foto is van Abraham Karel en Louise Bothma en hul gesin, by http://www.sntc.org.sz/sdphotos/photos/sdawinlaws.jpg Hy is 'n nasaat van die Slagtersnek Botha met dieselfde naam. Ander name wat voorkom in die aanvanklike fotos is Jan Holtzhsausen, Krogh, Holtman, ens. (Latere fotos lê veral klem op die Britse koloniale owerhede, inboorlinge, en koningshuis van Swaziland).
Die maklikste is om te begin by http://www.sntc.org.sz/sdphotos/pre1880.html en onderaan elke bladsy telkens te klik op "next 10 photos" vir elke daaropvolgende dekade.
Groete Christo
Boodskap 19. Herman Labuschagne Posted by: "Johan Pottas" [email protected] pottasjj Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:30 pm (PST)
Herman
Kan jy my asb dringend kontak, ek moet inligting aan jou deurgee en iewers het ek jou e- pos adres verkeerd en al my pos kom terug as onbekend.
Groete
Johan J Pottas Rekensentrum UV Tel: +27-51-401-2767 werk Tel: +27-51-522-7329 huis Tel: +27-82-569-3727 sel Faks: +27-51-401-2765 werk Posbus 34559, Faunasig, 9325
Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3061
Datum: Monday, January 14, 2008
Daar is 3 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1. Fw: [SA-Gen] Finale rusplek van Theron Stamvader in Suid-Afrika From: Jean le Roux
2a. Re: Ogies grafte / Langseekoeigat From: Jorge Estreux
2b. Re: Ogies grafte / Langseekoeigat From: Johan Pottas Boodskap 1. Fw: [SA-Gen] Finale rusplek van Theron Stamvader in Suid-Afrika Posted by: "Jean le Roux" [email protected] Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:04 am (PST)
----- Original Message ----- From: Jean lr Roux To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] Finale rusplek van Theron Stamvader in Suid-Afrika
Drikus,
Die Stamvader Jacques Therond se eerste plase was Lanquedoc en Minie in Klein Drakenstein wat hy albei tot sy dood besit het. Hy het la Rhone in die Drakensteinse wyk Land van Waveren eers in 1714 verkry en sy 2 oudste seuns het vir hom daar geboer. Die gemeente Roodesand (naam in 1804 verander na Tulbagh) is eers in 1743 van Drakenstein afgestig, dws na sy dood. Ek glo dus die stamvader is op sy woonplaas Minie oorlede en by die Strooidakkerk, Paarl begrawe. Vir besonderhede van sy plase in Klein Drakenstein sien die boekie Klein Drakenstein, Deel 9 in die reeks "Ons Drakensteinse Erfgrond" uitgegee deur Drakenstein Heemkring en beskikbaar By GISA.
Jean le Roux Paarl ----- Original Message ----- From: Drikus Theron To: SAG_Groep ; rootsweb Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:56 AM Subject: [SA-Gen] Finale rusplek van Theron Stamvader in Suid-Afrika
More almal,
Dit is 'n vragie wat ek al 'n hele tyd oor wonder. Waar is die graf en finale rusplek van Jacques Therond?
Sal dit op sy eerste plaas wees? Ek het so paar maande terug raak gelees dat sy eerste plaas Le Rhone was. Ek het egter daarna geen inligting van die plaas opgespoor nie. Ek het per toeval op die plaas afgekom middel laas jaar. Ek het vir my werkgewer 'n aflewering gaan maak by Boschendal landgoed naby Stellenbosch en daar het ek die naam Le Rhone op die bordjie van die Plaashuis gesien wat aan die regterkant van die Boschendal ingang sit. Jy ry eers verby 'n wingerd aan jou regterkent en dan maak die pad 'n draai na lings waarna die plaashuis voor jou is.
Is dit dieselfde plaas waarvan ek gelees het en is dit die plaas waarop ons Theron stamvader ter ruste gele was of was hy in 'n dorpsbegrafplaas begrawe?
Enige hulp sal waardeer word.
Met dank en in afwagting,
Drikus Theron
Boodskap 2a. Re: Ogies grafte / Langseekoeigat Posted by: "Jorge Estreux" [email protected] jorgeestreux Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:12 am (PST)
Alta,
Na my wete is dit net plase. Ek het geen winkels gesien nie. Ons het Devon toe gery vir koerante ens. Ek kry ook geen ander Langseekoigat in Kennis nie.
Gert
Boodskap 2b. Re: Ogies grafte / Langseekoeigat Posted by: "Johan Pottas" [email protected] pottasjj Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:16 am (PST)
Alta, Johan, Gert en ander belangstellendes
Die plaas Langzeekoegat, naby Trompsburg het die grootste gronddam in privaatbesit in Suid-Afrika. Dit behoort al vir 'n geslag of drie vaan die Van Schalkwyk familie. Tans woon Boetie van Schalkwyk op die plaas, ek kan nie nou onthou of daar 'n begraafplaas op die plaas is nie.
Dit is aan die Westekant van die N1 geleë en die dam is as jy weet waar om te kyk heel sigbaar vanaf die N1.
Die dam is gebou in die Kromellenbogenrivier as reg onthou.
Groete
Johan J Pottas Rekensentrum UV Tel: +27-51-401-2767 werk Tel: +27-51-522-7329 huis Tel: +27-82-569-3727 sel Faks: +27-51-401-2765 werk Posbus 34559, Faunasig, 9325 Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3062
Datum: Tuesday, January 15, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1.1. Re: Ogies grafte, Klipfontein From: Carel Johann de Bruin
2a. Re: Half-genealogiese navraag - Powerpoint From: Eben Vorster
3a. Sydneyonvaal From: Wanda Botes
3b. Re: Sydneyonvaal From: Jorge Estreux
4a. Erasmus/Opperman From: Alta Roux
4b. Re: Erasmus/Opperman From: Ben du Plessis
5. Sidney on vaal From: Louis Olivier
6a. Re: Bossert SAG1 From: [email protected]
7. MY OUPA JAN SE EEN VERMISTE SUSTER OPGESPOOR From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
8a. Re: KAB & NGK OBERHOLSTER/ZER From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
8b. Re: KAB & NGK OBERHOLSTER/ZER From: Johan
9a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
10a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
11. Jeugdig zoenen of niet in Z.A.?? From: Dik Groenhuizen
12. van Wyk inligting From: Alta Roux
13a. Re: "Verlore familielid" - HET HAAR!!! From: aneendewitt
13b. Re: "Verlore familielid" - HET HAAR!!! From: Cathy
14. Re: BRINK-GESLAGSREGISTER From: Johan Brink
15a. Re: Binnelandse Sake en oorledenes From: aneendewitt
16. Januarie Nuusblad nou uit. From: [email protected]
17. Our January newsletter is out now. From: [email protected]
18a. Re: Australiese telefoongids From: Faan Naude, Rietfontein, PRETORIA
19. Re: Sydney-on-Vaal From: Johan Brink
20. SKETSE/FOTO'S ENS. VAN SUID-AFRIKA From: Daniel Jacobs
21. Koelkamer From: obie oberholster Boodskap 1.1. Re: Ogies grafte, Klipfontein Posted by: "Carel Johann de Bruin" [email protected] cjohanndebruin Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:17 am (PST)
Hi Julle
Na wie se graf(te) is julle op soek? Ek het in September 2001 (dit was toe die miljoene bye ons so toegetakel het - uit Tant Bettie se graf!!)'n paar plaasbegraafplase in Klipfontein se omgewing "afgeskryf" op soek na Van der Merwe-grafte (ek onthou een begraafplaas was vol Prinsloo's). My oupa MJ Booyse is in 1916 daar op Klipfontein gebore. Ek moet net my papiere / aantekeninge uitdelf en dalk kan ek dan help.
Laat weet maar. Groete. Johann de Bruin van Heilbron
Boodskap 2a. Re: Half-genealogiese navraag - Powerpoint Posted by: "Eben Vorster" [email protected] ebenlouisvorster Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:49 am (PST)
Hi Alta
Jy moet n spesiale program vir hierdie doeleindes gebruik. Die beste is PINNACLE, maar MicroSoft se PHOTO STORY FOR WINDOWS is soveel makliker.
Laat weet Eben
Eben Louis Vorster
Cell: +27 82 313 3902
Address: 91 Dublinstreet Kenmare ext 4 Krugersdorp 1739 eMail: [email protected]
Boodskap 3a. Sydneyonvaal Posted by: "Wanda Botes" [email protected] wandabotes Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:06 am (PST)
Hello, almal
Weet iemand dalk waar Sydneyonvaal is?
Moet erns in die Barkley wes omgewing wees? My man se groot oupa Antonie Abraham Adrian Botes is daar begrawe.
REGARDS / GROETE
Wanda Botes
Tel (021) 402-2239 Fax 086 505 3515
Boodskap 3b. Re: Sydneyonvaal Posted by: "Jorge Estreux" [email protected] jorgeestreux Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:37 am (PST)
Wanda,
Sydney-on-vaal is n aanleg aan die Vaalrivier noordwes van Barkley-Wes.
Gert
Boodskap 4a. Erasmus/Opperman Posted by: "Alta Roux" [email protected] genealogiefreak Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:02 am (PST)
Lysteraars
Kan iemand my dalk help? Ek probeer iemand help om 'n rowwe stamboom saam te stel, maar is nou lekker deurmekaar.
Ek het 'n Susara Maria Opperman *29.1.1883 +4.9.1966 Evander x Pieter Johannes Lodewicus Nel *25.5.1876 +29.7.1956 Vaalbank Kinross.
Volgens haar jongste dogter, Johanna Susanna 'Nonnie' Holtzhausen *30.10.1920 was Susara Maria se ouers Daniel Jacobus Elardus Opperman en Johanna Susanna Erasmus (datums onbekend, maar Johanna Susanna is jonk oorlede en D J E Opperman is weer getroud, en wel met 'n Opperman)
Nou kry ek op NAAIRS glad nie 'n boedel vir sulke mense nie, maar wel vir Johanna Susanna Opperman *Hamman +1894, en 'n Daniel Jacobus Elardus Opperman +1941, x J S Hamman xx Johanna G C Opperman. Ek het nog nie hierdie boedels nagegaan nie, maar miskien kan iemand my help voor ek weer argief toe gaan.
Daar is ook 'n mooi foto van 'n 'S P Erasmus', wat volgens tant Nonnie haar ouma se broer was, maar sonder meer inligitng kan ek nie gaan soek nie!
Die feit dat haar oupa Daniel Jacobus Elardus Opperman was, dui ook vir my op 'n Opperman/Erasmus herkoms - daarom is ek heel deurmekaar.
Help asseblief! Alta van Kinross
Boodskap 4b. Re: Erasmus/Opperman Posted by: "Ben du Plessis" [email protected] bjadup Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:06 pm (PST)
Alta,
Ek het Susanna Maria Opperman X Piet Nel, dogter van Daniel Jacobus Elardus Opperman *1856-11-10 +1941-06-04 X Johanna Susanna Hamman *c1865-01-05 +1894-07-25 TAB O/9479. 'n Ander dogter Albertina Magdalena was my vrou se grootouma. Ek soek al lank na ouers van Johanna Susanna Hamman, maar haar SK gee geen ouers nie en sy is op 29 oorlede. Die Voortrekker Jacobus Johannes Hamman b5c1 was egter met Albertina Magdalena Smith getroud en ek reken daar moet iewers 'n verbintenis wees, wat ek nog nie kon opspoor nie. Laat weet my asb as jy verder vorder.
Groete Ben du Plessis Nelspruit 082 575 1601
Boodskap 5. Sidney on vaal Posted by: "Louis Olivier" [email protected] Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:16 am (PST)
Al plek wat ek kry is die volgende Sidney-On-Vaal is langs Vaalbos National Park
Linda & Louis Olivier Pretoria 0128031028 [email protected] [email protected] Olivier, Coetzee, Swart, du Plooy
Boodskap 6a. Re: Bossert SAG1 Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] rvanzijl Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:27 am (PST)
Hallo Chris
Christiaan Bossert * 1763 a. as matroos van Brandis in Sakse, later padbouer in diens van Burgerraad + 11.12.1806 x Catharina Magdalena v.d.K xx Kaapstad 7.3.1802 Johanna Catharina Brits b1 Clara Magdalena x Pieter Pietersen van Swede b2 Christina Wilhelmina x Carel Frederik Hoffman b3 Maria Elizabeth gedoop Kaapstad 27.5.1792 x Lutherse Kerk 18.10.1810 Georg C. Hoffman xx Kaapstad 6.1.1839 Andries Wanning uit Nederland b4 Christiaan x Lutherse Kerk 2.9.1810 Sara Rebecca de Jager v.d.K. c1 Christiaan Pieter gedoop Lutherse Kerk 31.3.1811 c2 Johanna Frederika * 10.6.1812 gedoop Lutherse Kerk 27.7.1812 c3 Frederik Christiaan * 6.8.1814 gedoop Lutherse Kerk 21.8.1814 x Bloemfontein 8.1.1849 Martha Wilhelmina Pretorius d1 Christiaan Frederik * 21.11.1852 gedoop Rustenburg 28.4.1851 d2 Jan Christoffel * 21.11.1852 gedoop Potchefstroom 19.6.1953 d3 Johanna Aletta * 13.101854 gedoop Potchefstroom 18.2.1855 d4 Sara Catharina * 16.9.1856 gedooop Fauresmith 5.6.1857 d5 Frederik Christiaan * 5.10.1860 + Zeerust 27.2.1945 xx M. M. Erasmus * 1.10.1866 + Zeerust 12.11.1944 c4 Johan Christiaan gedoop Lutherse Kerk 1.10.1815 c5 Catharina Johanna Magdalena gedoop Lutherse Kerk 7.4.1816 c6 Jacoba Wilhelmina gedoop Lutherse Kerk 12.11.1817 Tweede Huwelik b5 Johanna Hendrina gedoop Kaapstad 12.2.1804 x Kaapstad 29.4.1832 Jacobus Johannes Louw
Groete
Richard van Zijl
Boodskap 7. MY OUPA JAN SE EEN VERMISTE SUSTER OPGESPOOR Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:45 am (PST)
Goeie dag vriende/inne
Nee kyk, gister het ek weer geweet ek is in die somer gebore in 1961. Weer lekker Bosveldhitte. Dit broei egter, wolke in die lug.
Hier is 'n bietjie vars nuus uit die oond vir ons: Hendrina Cecilia van Deventer circa 1894 x David Schalk Vorster *02.02.1892 gedoop 16.03.1892 in Fauresmith. Hulle is getroud: 20.04.1914 Kinders: Pieter Daniël Vorster *29.01.1916 David Schalk *11.09.1926 gedoop 31.10.1926 in Petrusburg Bernardus Johannes Stephanus *03.02.1929 oorlede 02.03.1980 Anna Catharina *28.06.1931 gedoop 04.10.1931 in Petrusburg Dorothea Anna Wilhelmina *13.01.1937 gedoop 14.03.1937 in Petrusburg. As sy nog lewe het sy gister saam met my verjaar en was sy dus 71 jaar oud. Mooi bly tot 'n volgende keer
Berna
Boodskap 8a. Re: KAB & NGK OBERHOLSTER/ZER Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:02 am (PST)
Hi Obie, Liz en Cornel veral
Die volgende kan julle dalk op 'n spoor plaas, hoop nie dis op 'n sy-spoor nie en heeltemal van die wa af nie!
OBERHOLZER, Jan Valentine *23.06.1943 wat voorkom in die Schutte's se nageslag. Link: http://www.schutte.kaleido.co.za/indeks.HTML Skakel Dr Tian Schutte by 0137411240/7598042 E-pos: [email protected]
Hy is so bietjie so 'n nuwer model as die oupa maar dis dieselfde name. Ek weet nie of die Schutte van hulp sal wees nie? Cornel is net die regte ene Obie, sy het lyk my 'n hele argief by haar. Sy is oulik en help graag. Cornel miskien bring bg. jou op die oupa se paadjie langs.
Obie jy verkluim seker nou? Terloops ek is Francois se skoonsuster, hy is amper weer oppad.
Groetnis Berna
Boodskap 8b. Re: KAB & NGK OBERHOLSTER/ZER Posted by: "Johan" [email protected] oobee25 Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:21 am (PST)
Hi Almal
Dankie vir die brokkie, maar die oorspronklike Jan Valentine (1878 - 1978) was my oupagrootjie, en een van sy seuns (my oupa se broer) was ook ' n Jan Valentine rondom 1905 gebore. Hy het buite Kimberley geboer, en het ook weer 'n Jan Valentine seun, dit mag die persoon wees. Ek het nou kontak met oupagrootjie se enigste oorlewende kleinkind. Ek sal ook hierdie daar kers opsteek. My oupagrootjie se ma was 'v/d Merwe en ek dink dis waar die Valentine (Valentyn) vandaan kom, maar ek dink my Tannie het die voornaam verkeerd, sal dit opvolg.
Groete
Johan Oberholzer
Boodskap 9a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:21 am (PST)
426 Barbara Jacomina geb 8 Junÿ 1862
Ouders: Hendrik Frederik GROBLER
Elisabet Susanna VORSTER
Get: Pieter GROBLER
Barbara Jacomina PELTZER
Pieter GROBLER
Johanna Adriana JACOBS
427 Petrus Johannes geb 5 Febr 1863
Ouders: Sarel Johannes ELOF
Anna Jacomina BOTHA
Get: Dauw Gerbrand GROBLER
Jacoba Adriana ELOF
Jacobus Niclaas ELOF
P 70
428 Cecilia Maria geb 21 Oct 1862
Ouders: Paul Stefanus BOTHA
Johanna Maria Jacoba VAN DÿK
Get: Petrus Christoffel VERCEUIL
Maria Elisabet OLIVIER
429 Paulus Stefanus geb 22 Junÿ 1862
Ouders: Paulus Stefanus BOTHA
Johanna Catarina VERCEUIL
Get: Jacobus Stefanus BOTHA
Johanna Maria Jacoba VAN DÿK
Jan Jacobus VERCEUIL
Helena Catarina BOTHA
430 Jan Adriaan geb 6 Augustus 1862
Ouders: Johan Georg DUVENAGE
Anna Jacomina BOTHA
Get: Jan Adriaan BOTHA
Susanna Ragelina Maria BOTHA
Paul Stefanus BOTHA
431 Cornelis Michael Wilhelmus geb 11 Maart 1863
Ouders: Hendrik Rutge SCHNELL
Antoinetta Dorothea VOORTMAN
Get: Johannes Hendrik Jacobus VOORTMAN
Johanna Adriana NIEMAND
Pieter GROBLER jr
Johanna Adriana JACOBS
Cornelis Abraham Willem VAN DÿK
Susanna Margareta VOORTMAN
GEDOOPT OP DEN PLAATS GOEDEWENSCH TEN HUIZE VAN DEN WELEW HEER J ALBASINI 11 JUNÿ 1863 DS A.J. BEGEMANN 432 EN 433
432 Lukas Willem geb 19 Mei 1862
Ouders: Joas ALBISINI (RC)
Gertina Petronella Maria JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Get: Douw Gerbrand GROBLER
Neeltje Christina ELOF
Abraham Petrus DUVINAGE
Anna Elisabet PELTZER
433 Johannes Gerardus geb 19 April 1862
Ouders: Hendricus VAN BOESCHOTEN
Antje DE WEERD
Get: Paulus DE WEERD
Frans Adolf BONTE
P 71
No 434 TOT EN MET 438 GEDOOPT OP DEN PLAATS WATERVAL VAN DEN HEER LOUW JACOBS DOOR DEN PREDIKANT A.J. BEGEMANN OP DEN 21 JUNÿ 1863
434 Susanna Catarina Petronella geb 11 Junÿ 1863
Ouders: Petrus Jacobus Stefanus Johannes Lodewyk VENTER
Anna Susanna Catarina VAN DÿK
Get: Jan Louis VENTER
Susanna Catarina Petronella VENTER
Jacobus Daniel VENTER
Cornelia Sofya VAN DÿK
Stefanus Martinus VENTER
435 Ferdinandus Wilhelmus geb 20 November 1862
Ouders: Stefanus Martinus VENTER
Hester Maria ROBBERTSE
Get: David Schalk VAN DÿK
Pieternella Johanna VENTER
Gerrit Johannes DUVINAGE
Susanna Zacharya VAN WÿK
436 Magdalena Wilhelmina Catarina geb 30 Mei 1863
Ouders: Georg Frederik SNÿMAN
Magdalena Wilhelmina Catarina BOTHA
Get: Petrus Johannes SNÿMAN
Pieternella Margarita ROBBERTSE
Barend Jacobus FORSTER
Alida Margarita BOTHA
437 Jan Hendrik geb 4 Junÿ 1863
Ouders: Petrus Johannes SNÿMAN
Pieternella Margarita ROBBERTSE
Get: Jan Hendrik ROBBERTSE
Susara Jacoba MARX
Pieter Johannes ROBBERTSE
Sara Sofya KRUGER
438 Barbara Jacomina geb 4 Junÿ 1863
Ouders: Johannes Christoffel ROETS
Elsje GROBLER
Get: Piet GROBLER
Barbara Jacomina PELTZER
Martinus Johannes Christoffel ROETS
Susanna Catarina KLOPPER
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 10a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:22 am (PST)
P 72
GEDOOPT DOOR DE PREDIKANT N.J. VAN WARMELO TEN HUIZE VAN DEN OUDERLING VAN DER WESTHUIZEN VAN MACAPAANSPOORT OP 27 JUNÿ 1864
439 Johanna Petronella Hendrika geb 19 Julÿ 1863
Ouders: Lourens Christiaan DE KLERK
Jacomina Dorothea SNÿMAN
Get: Jan Lodevicus VAN EERDE ? en
Johanna Hendrika DU PREEZ
Teunis Christiaan DE KLERK en
Maria Magdalena SMIT
DOOR DENSELFDEN PREDIKANT GEDOOPT OP DEN PLAATS DUVENAARSKRAAL TOEBEHORENDE AAN DEN DIAKEN P.A. VENTER OP 3 JULÿ1864
440 Maria Magdalena Elizabetha geb 11 Aug 1863
Ouders: Rulph ? Cornelis Jacobus BEZUIDENHOUT
Johanna Jacomina Susanna VENTER
Get: Francois Johannes VENTER
Anna Catarina VENTER
Gerhardus VENTER
441 Jacoba Aletta Johanna geb 15 Aug 1863
Ouders: Christoffel Cornelis DU PLOOI (later verander na PLOOY)
Sophia Elizabetha Frederika DE BEER
Get: Petrus GASPARUS SNYDERS
Jacoba Adriana DE BEER
442 Philippus Jacobus geb 7 Jan 1864
Ouders: Petrus Gasparus SNYDERT
Jacoba Johanna Petronella Maria JONKER
De moeder geen lidmaat zynde, word met kind ten doopt gehouden door Johanna Cornelia VAN DER WESTHUIZEN geb BOTHA
Get: Roelof Jacobus VAN EMMENIS
Geertruida Willemina Magdalena JONKER
Christiaan JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Aletta Elizabetha BRONKHORST
P 73
443 Isabella Maria Elizabetha Louisa geb 22 Sept 1863
Ouders: Teunis Johannis BOTHA
Adriana Jacoba Maria DUPLESSIS
Get: Hendrik Jacobus SMIT
Elsje Catharina Johanna BOTHA
444 Johannes Adam geb 20 Augustus 1863
Ouders: Karel Andries SMIT
Elisabetha Johanna Willemina DE BEER
Get: Johannes Adam DE BEER
Esther Margaretha DE BEER
Diaken Philippus VENTER en echtgenoten
445 Gerrit Louwrens geb 16 Sept 1863
Ouders: Gerrit Louwrens VAN EMMENIS
Anna Jacoba GEYSER
Get: Alewyn Petrus BOTHA
Emmerencie Adriana GEYSER
Frederik Hendrik GEYSER
Sara Johanna BRONKHORST
IN HET HUIS VAN DEN HEER HUMAN TEN ZOUTPANSBERG DE 10 DE JULY 1864
446 Martha Aletta Maria geen datum
Ouders: Hans Jurie HUMAN
Wilhelmina Johanna MARE
Get: Petrus Gerhardus MARE en echtgenoten
IN DE KERK VAN ZOUTPANSBERG 17 JULY 1864
447 Hendrika Martina Olivia geb 1 July 1863
Ouders: Nicolaas Martinus JANSE VAN RENSBURG getrouwd met
Maria Magdalena ERTSON wed van EBERHARDT
Get: Robbert LYS en
Olivia LYS
P 74 1864
448 Aletta Elizabetha geb 20 Juny 1863
Ouders: David Johannes Stephanus HERBST
Esther Martha JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Get: Johan Christiaan Jacobus HERBST weduwenaar
Nicolaas Martinus JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Maria Magdalena ERSTSON
449 Zacharias Arnoldus Stephanus geb 7 Maart 1864
Ouders: Frederik Christoffel DE WIT
Catharina Margaretha PRETORIUS
Get: Zacharias Arnoldus Stephanus PRETORIUS
Johanna Elisabetha PRETORIUS
Adriaan Stephanus ENGELBRECHT
Maria Magdalena ENGELBRECHT
450 David Schalk geb 4 Maart 1864
Ouders: Jan Johannes POTGIETER
Elizabetha Cornelia VAN DER MERWE
Get: David Schalk VAN DER MERWE
Neeltje VAN DER MERWE
Jacobus Johannes POTGIETER weduwenaar
Jan Jacobus VAN DER MERWE – jonkman
451 Esther Catharina geb 7 Des 1863
Ouders: Johannes Jacobus ROETS
Sara Frederika POTGIETER
Get: Jacobus Johannes POTGIETER – jonkman
Jan Christoffel ROETS – wedewenaar
P 75 1864
452 Helena Catharina geb 10 Aug 1864
Ouders: Johan Jacobus Andries VERCEUIL
Helena Catharina BOTHA
Get: Samuel Hendrik VERCEUIL en
Aletta Johanna GROBLER
Paulus Stephanus BOTHA en
Johanna Cornelia VERCEUIL
453 Johanna Christina Carolina geb 18 July 1863
Ouders: Hendrik Christoffel JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Cornelia VISSER
Get: Petrus Johannes VISSER – geen lidmaat
Johanna Christina Carolina VISSER
Paul Jacobus Frederik ROOS en
Maria Elizabetha ROOS
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 11. Jeugdig zoenen of niet in Z.A.?? Posted by: "Dik Groenhuizen" [email protected] dikgroenhuizen Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:46 am (PST)
Hallo geneacollega`s
Op het voorblad van het Nederlandse dagblad DePers van maandag 14 januari staat vanuit Pretoria een artikel in over niet zoenen in Z.A. voor 16 jaar. http://depers.republisher.modernmedia.nl/
Groeten Dik
Boodskap 12. van Wyk inligting Posted by: "Alta Roux" [email protected] genealogiefreak Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:03 am (PST)
Lysteraars en spesifiek Isabel Groesbeek en die mense van die van Wyk CD:
Albert Wynand Wincke van Wyk 11.12.1926 +29.10.1997 Vanderbijlpark X 6.3.1949 Alberton Aletta Helena Pieters 5.6.1926 1. Christina 9.10.1950 2. Susanna Hendrina 19.12.1951 3. Albert Wynand Wincke 21.5.1953 4.Laetitia 4.7.1960 5. Ronel 17.4.1962 (Ek kan nie hierdie datums waarborg nie - die dame se self sy kan haar kinders se datums nie goed onthou nie!)
Hy word op die van Wyk CD aangegee as ongekoppel. Hy was die seun van Adriaan en Susanna Hendrina Hoffman - hierdie egpaar is op die CD.
Groete Alta van Kinross
Boodskap 13a. Re: "Verlore familielid" - HET HAAR!!! Posted by: "aneendewitt" [email protected] aneendewitt Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:29 am (PST)
Naand almal!
Ek moet net gou hierdie stukkie deel...
Ek het die afgelope week sommer weer gewonder oor die verlore niggie. Het toe weer haar tannie (Beyersbergen) ge"google" en 'n foto op die internet gekry. 'n Rukkie later het ek op FACEBOOK gesnuffel en Beyersbergen ingetik. Daar verskyn toe 'n jong vrou se gesig en dit sê dat haar Beyersbergen haar nooiensvan was. Na 'n kort boodskappie kry ek vandag toe 'n antwoord wat sê dat die persone wat ek soek, haar ouers en haar niggie is. Haar niggie is my verlore niggie! Die wonder van Facebook...
;o) Aneen
Boodskap 13b. Re: "Verlore familielid" - HET HAAR!!! Posted by: "Cathy" [email protected] dickydube Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:04 am (PST)
Oh!!!!!!!! Geluk!!!!!!!!
Wat 'n heerlike gevoel!!!!!
Groete, Cathy Nieuwoudt Birmingham V.S.A.
Boodskap 14. Re: BRINK-GESLAGSREGISTER Posted by: "Johan Brink" [email protected] Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:08 am (PST)
Johan,
Dis reg. Die geslagsregister oor die BRINK-familie van SA sedert 1737 is so 'n drie jaar gelede (onder ISBN 0-7972-1021-0) deur my die lig laat sien. Die register het nie foto's en verhale/stories nie, is in A-5 grootte gedruk deur die US drukkery, word op die konvensionele genealogiese wyse in sagteband aangebied en beslaan 328 bladsye met volledige indeks, bibliografie asook lyste van aangetroudes en plase per afsonderlike hoofstukke. Die hoofstukke dek individueel die verskillende afstammings vanaf die BRINK-stamvader(s). Die boek is nog beskikbaar by my en verkoop tans @ R190.00 plus R20.00 vir die geregistreerde posversending. [Resensies en bekendstellings het reeds in verskeie media verskyn asook op van die verwante webwerwe.]
Voornemende kopers kan laat weet indien hulle belangstel.
Groete
Johan Brink Vermont, Hermanus 028-316-3237 082-328-9453
Boodskap 15a. Re: Binnelandse Sake en oorledenes Posted by: "aneendewitt" [email protected] aneendewitt Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:58 am (PST)
Hello http://www.home-affairs.gov.za/index.asp en om te kyk of iemand getroud is: http://www.home-affairs.gov.za/status/marital_status.asp
Groete, Aneen
Boodskap 16. Januarie Nuusblad nou uit. Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:53 pm (PST)
Die Januarie uitgawe van "Die Lichtenburgstam", die nuusblad van die Greeff en verwante families, is nou beskikbaar. Klik op die skakel: http://www.greeff.info/tng01/Nuusblad5-Jan2008.php
In hierdie uitgawe is daar 'n breedvoerige artikel oor David du Plooy, wat blykbaar die enigtse boer was wat ooit suksesvol van die ABO eilandkampe ontsnap het. Daar is ook melding van J. L. de Villiers, wat van een van die vastelandskampe in Indië ontsnap het.
Groete, Francois Greeff ______Om by ons Greeff kuiernet ('n epos netwerk) aan te sluit, stuur asseblief 'n epos aan [email protected], met net die enkele woord, subscribe, as onderwerp en as inhoud.
Greeff Familie Webblad: www.Greeff.info
36 Aston Road London SW20 8BE United Kingdom of Great Britain
0044 20 8543 6966 (Home) or 020 8543 6966 0044 79 6372 2345 (Mobile) or 079 6372 2345 Skype: Greefffrancois
Boodskap 17. Our January newsletter is out now. Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:04 pm (PST)
Die Januarie uitgawe van "Die Lichtenburgstam", die nuusblad van die Greeff en verwante families, is nou beskikbaar. Klik op die skakel: http://www.greeff.info/tng01/Nuusblad5-Jan2008.php
In hierdie uitgawe is daar 'n breedvoerige artikel oor David du Plooy, wat blykbaar die enigtse boer was wat ooit suksesvol van die ABO eilandkampe ontsnap het. David is deel van ons familie en was met 'n Schoeman meisie getroud. Daar is ook melding van J. L. de Villiers, wat van een van die vastelandskampe in Indië ontsnap het.
In die nuusblad is 'n lekker "Wie is ek" artikel oor Lucia Wels, met baie fotos. Daar is 'n resensie oor een van haar boeke, 'n digbundel met die titel "Nasomervlug". Daar is verskeie vakante poste aangebied, en nuus oor ons jongste navorsing. Die nuusblad sluit af met 'n tweede "Wie is ek" artikel, die tragiese verhaal van Edith Greeff, gebore Newton.
Ek moedig elkeen van julle aan om asseblief 'n "Wie is ek" storie in te stuur asseblief. Jy hoef nie oor jouself te skryf nie, maar jy mag! Die punt van hierdie reeks is om die nageslag insig te gee in die lewens van mense wat ons oor kan gesels.
Lekkerlees, Francois Greeff ______Om by ons Greeff kuiernet ('n epos netwerk) aan te sluit, stuur asseblief 'n epos aan [email protected], met net die enkele woord, subscribe, as onderwerp en as inhoud.
Greeff Familie Webblad: www.Greeff.info
36 Aston Road London SW20 8BE United Kingdom of Great Britain
0044 20 8543 6966 (Home) or 020 8543 6966 0044 79 6372 2345 (Mobile) or 079 6372 2345 Skype: Greefffrancois
Boodskap 18a. Re: Australiese telefoongids Posted by: "Faan Naude, Rietfontein, PRETORIA" [email protected] Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:56 pm (PST)
Baie dankie Andre. Ek het daar gekyk, maar nie reggekom nie. Ek sal 'n ander benadering moet volg. Ek sal jou laat weet of ek regkom. Groete. Faan.
Boodskap 19. Re: Sydney-on-Vaal Posted by: "Johan Brink" [email protected] Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:57 pm (PST)
Wanda,
Ja, jy's op die regte spoor. Op die gewone padkaart word Sydney-on-Vaal baie duidelik aangedui. Beweeg al langs die suidelike oewer van die Vaalrivier vanaf Barkly-wes in Noord-westelike rigting verby Waldeck's Plant en Longlands en bereik Sydney-on-Vaal voordat jy by Delportshoop kom!!
Sterkte
Johan
Boodskap 20. SKETSE/FOTO'S ENS. VAN SUID-AFRIKA Posted by: "Daniel Jacobs" [email protected] Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:40 pm (PST)
Beste Vriende
Aangehegte boodskap van Becky Horne se Oos-Kaap lys bevat interessante inligting. Ek het die woord Transvaal ingetik en o.a. mooi sketse van die Groot Trek gesien. Gebruik die "Thumbnail"-opsie - dan kan mens 'n hele aantal sketse/foto's op een slag sien.
Groete
Daniel Jacobs www.gendata.co.za
------Forwarded message ------From: Jeremy Gallop
Hi All,
I read today about the London Illustrated News archives being acquired by the Mary Evans Picture Library so went browsing and found some interesting pictures of Transvaal etc.
Also they have two images of Mrs Paul Kruger. Now I recall seeing some time ago a request somewhere asking of pictures of her. But I cant seem to find it anywhere on any South African List.
In any case if you go to http://www.maryevans.com and do a Quick Search on the entire collection for "Mrs Paul Kruger" or "transvaal" etc you get some really interesting pictures.
Hope someone finds this useful.
Regards Jeremy
Boodskap 21. Koelkamer Posted by: "obie oberholster" [email protected] obieoberholster Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:03 pm (PST)
More daar,
Ek het mooi fotos so n van n koelkamer geneem, van steen gebou, het die een raak geloop agter die Korana berge.
Laat weet maar.
Groetnis
Obie Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3063
Datum: Tuesday, January 15, 2008
Daar is 5 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1. (Koerant) Beeld 15 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
2a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
2b. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
3. ds Andrew Murray From: Paul Bosman
4. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 15 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx Boodskap 1. (Koerant) Beeld 15 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:10 pm (PST)
BENADÉ; Marie * 01/05/1953 + 05/01/2008, in lewe van Pretoria. Roudiens: NG Valleisig, Tipperarystraat, Pretoria-Oos, 16/01/2008. Sy laat na Susters, broer, kinders en kleinkind. Indien u die diens wil bywoon, kontak: Skoonseun Marius VAN DER MERWE by 083-288-0031. (Beeld – 15/01/2008)
DU PREEZ; Johannes Jacobus, in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: Novus Vita Kerk, Tiptolstraat, Silverton, Pretoria, 16/01/2008, 13:00 # Zandfontein Begraafplaas, Pretoria. (Beeld – 15/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Moot, 012-330-0116/9.
LYONS; Marie * 18/06/1934 + 05/01/2008, in lewe van Pretoria. Roudiens: NG Valleisig, Tipperarystraat, Pretoria-Oos, 16/01/2008. Sy laat na Susters, kinders, kleinkinders en agterkleinkinders. Indien u die diens wil bywoon, kontak: Dogter Mary STOFBERG by 012-991-3650. (Beeld – 15/01/2008)
ROUX; Jan Gideon, in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: NG Kerk, Alberton-Oos, Gauteng provinsie, 16/01/2008, 13:00 # Alberton Begraafplaas. (Beeld – 15/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria, 012-327-3788.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 2a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:06 pm (PST)
454 gedoopt 24 July
Jacobus Frederik geb 5 July 1864
Ouders: Stephanus Johannes JANSE VAN RENSBURG *
Elizabetha Helena BOTHA
Get: Marthinus WOLHUTER en
Esther Johanna Cornelia POTGIETER
Jacobus Frederik BOTHA en
Maria Aletta GROBLER
Joachim Petrus JANSE VAN RENSBURG en
Sara LAGRANGE
P 76 1864
GEDOOPT DOOR DEN PREDIKANT F.W. SMITS TE MAGAPAANSPOORT 20 JULY 1864
455 Willem Schalk Jacobus geb 11 July 1864
Ouders: Friedrich Ferdinand Gottlieb JOCKS
Maria Frederika Carolina GUTJAHR
Get: Willem Schalk Jacobus VAN HEERDEN
Hesther Gertruida BOTHA
DOOR DEN PREDIKANT VAN WARMELO OP ZOUTPANSBERG 31 JULY 1864
456 Lourens Abrham Jacobsz geb 13 Sept 1863
Ouders: Jacobus Hendrik DUVENAGE
Helena Geertruida JACOBSZ
Get: Schalk Willem VAN WYK en
Catharina Jacoba MEYER
Barend Christoffel DUVENAGE en
Elsje Magdalena DUVENAGE
457 Abraham Petrus Perken ? geb 3 Oct 1863
Ouders: Abrham Petrus DUVENAGE
Johanna Catharina Elizabeth JACOBS
Get: Abraham Christiaan Johannes DUVENAGE en
Louisa Jacoba VAN HEERDEN
Stephanus Martinus VENTER en
Hendrika Jacoba Maria DUVENAGE
458 Anna Maria Francina geb 16 Sept 1863
Ouders: Roelof Johannes STRYDOM
Christina Elizabeth NAGEL
Get: Stephanus Andries VAN EMMENIS en
Anna Francina ROETS
Johannes Arnoldus BREET en
Gerarda Helena VAN WYK
P 77 1864
459 Schalk Willem geb 18 July 1863
Ouders: Schalk Willem VAN WYK
Catharina Jacoba DEMEYER
Get: Jacobus Hendrik DUVENAGE en
Helena Geertruida JACOBS
Johannes Augustus BREED
Dorothea Margaretha Carolina COMBRINK
460 Christoffel Carolus geb 10 Oct 1863
Ouders: Willem Andries Petrus PRETORIUS
Helena Barendina Norbetta BESTER – overleden
Get: Maria Johanna COMBRINK – doopmoeder
Christoffel Carolus BESTER en
Dawlina VAN AARDT
461 Maria Aletta geb 3 Feb 1863
Ouders: Johannes Frederik BOTHA
Maria Aletta HATTINK
Get: Pieter Johannes Lodewyk VENTER en
Maria Aletta DE BEER
Andries Hendrik POTGIETER en
Aletta Sophia VENTER
462 Petronella Margaretha geb 6 Feb 1864
Ouders: Pieter GROBLER
Pieter Johanna BOTHA
Get: Johannes Frederik BOTHA en
Maria Aletta HATTINK
Lourens Martinus BRONKHORST en
Anna Suzanna GROBLER
463 Nicolaas Johannes geb 23 Feb 1864
Ouders: Hendrik Lammert Johannes BRONKHORST
Cornelia Johanna Geertruida Jacoba GROBLER
Get: Nicolaas Johannes GROBLER en
Engela Elizabetha PRETORIUS
Nicolaas Johannes GROBLER en
Wilhelmina Petronella DU PREZ
P 78 1864
464 Alewyn Petrus geb 8 April 1864
Ouders: Alewyn Petrus BOTHA
Emmerencie Adriana GEYSER
Get: Petrus Wilhelmus GEYSER en
Aletta Sofya VENTER
Jacoba Cornelia GEYSER
465 Johannes Jacobus GEB 13 Nov 1863
Ouders: Johannes Jacobus STRYDOM
Anna Johanna Catharina VAN EMMENIS
Get: Gert Lourens VAN EMMENIS en
Anna Jacoba GEYSER
Roelof Jacobus VAN EMMENIS en
Geertruida Wilhelmina Magdalena JONKER
466 Helena Elizabetha geb 15 Juny 1863
Ouders: Andries Hendrik POTGIETER
Neeltje Philippina Elizabetha BOTHA
Get: Lourens Marthinus BRONKHORST
Anna Suzanna GROBLER
467 Suzanna Zacharya geb 8 July 1863
Ouders: David Benjamin SNYMAN
Aletta Elizabetha DUVENAGE
Get: Gerrit Johannes DUVENAGE en
Suzanna Zacharya VAN WYK
Cecilia Hendrina Margaretha DUVENAGE
Andries Hendrik BOTHA
Martha Johanna Catharina Petronella VAN HEERDEN
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 2b. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:07 pm (PST)
P 79 1864
468 Esther Magdalena Hendrina geb 23 Mei 1864
Ouders: Johannes Petrus LAGRANGE
Catharina Elizabetha JAKOBS
Get: Lourens Abrham JAKOBS
Josina maria Magdalena ROOS
Joachem Petrus JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Sara Louisa LAGRANGE
469 Johannes Hermanus geb 23 July 1863
Ouders: Nicolaas Johannes GROBLER
Wilhelmina Petronella DU PREZ
Get: Pieter Daniel Andries Salomon DU PREZ
Geertruida Aletta BOTHA
Pieter GROBLER
Pieter Johanna BOTHA
Johannes Lodvicus Hermanus DU PREZ
470 Pieter Johannes geb 9 Sept 1863
Ouders: Andries Hendrik BOTHA
Martha Johanna Catharina Petronella VAN HEERDEN
Get: Gerrit Johannes DUVENAGE
Suzanna Zacharia VAN WYK
Karel Sebastiaan GROBLER
Pieter Johannes VAN HEERDEN
Jacomina Dorothea SWANEPOEL
471 Hermanus Barend Jacobus Josephus geb 23 Jan 1864
Ouders: Pieter Daniel Andries Salomon DU PREZ
Geertruida Aletta BOTHA
Get: Johannes Lodevicus Hermanus DU PREZ
Nicolaas Johannes GROBLER
Wilhelmina Petronella DU PREZ
Barend Jacobus VORSTER
Alida Susanna Margaretha BOTHA
P 80 1864
472 Johanna Catharina geb 9 July 1863
Ouders: Johannes Lodevicus Petrus BOTHA
Petronella Christina VAN DER BERG
Get: Alewyn Petrus BOTHA
Emmerencie Adriana GEYSER
Jacoba Cornelia GEYSER
473 Jan Jacobus Georg geb 7 Dec 1863
Ouders: Gerrit Johannes DUVENAGE
Suzanna Zacharia VAN WYK
Get: David Benjamin SNYMAN en
Aletta Elizabetha DUVENAGE
Andries Hendrik BOTHA en
Martha Johanna Catharina Petronella VAN HEERDEN
Jan Jacobus DUVENAGE en
Hendrika Petronella Elizabetha BRITZ
474 Gertruida Willemina Magdalena geb 16 Mei 1864
Ouders: Roelof Jacobus VAN EMMENIS
Gertruida Willemina Magdalena JONKER
Get: Petrus Gasparus SNYDER en
Jacoba Johanna Petronella Maria JONKER
Jacobus Cornelis OOSTHUIZEN en
Dorothea Hermina HARTZENBERG
J.F.ROOS en
Maria ROOS – V RENSBURG
475 Maria Catharina geb 27 Dec 1863
Ouders: Johannes Hermanus GROBLER
Geertruida Suzanna FOURIE
Get: Pieter GROBLER en
Barbara Jacomina PELTZER
Hendrik Frederik GROBLER en
Elizabetha VORSTER
Johannes Petrus KLOPPERS en
Maria Jacoba MINNAAR
P 81 1864
476 Helena Geertruida geb 8 July 1864
Ouders: Lourens Abraham JAKOBS
Josina Maria Magdalena ROOS
Get: Johannes Petrus LAGRANGE en
Catharina Elizabetha JAKOBS
Johannes Jacobus ROOS en
Anna BEEDJES
477 Jacobus Stephanus geb 15 July 1863
Ouders: Frederik Jacobus BOTHA
Sofeia Magdalena STRYDOM
Get: Andries Hendrik POTGIETER
Cornelia Elizabetha Willemina BOTHA
478 Johanna Geertruida geb 8 Feb 1864
Ouders: Willem Andries NEL
Anna Sofeia ROBERTS
Get: Jacobus Daniel VENTER en
Maria Martha Magdalena ROBBERTS
479 Roelof Adolph geb 18 Nov 1863
Ouders: Marthinus Johannes Christoffel ROETZ
Suzanna Catharina KLOPPER – overleden
Get: Johannes Christoffel ROETS
Elsje GROBBELAAR - doopmoeder
Andries Wilhelmus DUVENAGE
Suzanna Catharina ROETS
480 Willem Sterrenberg geb 13 July 1864
Ouders: Gerrit Petrus VAN WYK
Anna Maria Adriana BREET
Get: Willem Sterrenberg BREET en
Maria Magdalena VISAGE
Jacobus Theodorus BREET en
Johanna Margaretha Jacoba VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 3. ds Andrew Murray Posted by: "Paul Bosman" [email protected] paul5016 Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:18 pm (PST)
Dagsê Vriende
Is daar enige iemand wat sy nasate navors? Ek het 'n tante wat 'n agterkleindogter van hom is en ek sou baie graag die verbintenis wou uit pluis.
Groetnis Paul D Bosman ------my grootjies: BOSMAN X DE VILLIERS / VERSTER X DE KLERK / FROST X VON BENECKE / SYMINGTON X PIENAAR Ria s'n: BURGER X MOSTERT / MOSTERT X BRAND / KRUGER X VORSTER / KUHN X BREDENHAHN Posbus 1787 Rayton 1001 Tel: 012 802 1009, sel: 082 851 4039, Faks: 0866 581829 of 012 802 1009
Boodskap 4. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 15 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:59 pm (PST)
Die Burger van Maandag 14de het die pad byster geraak en nie Loerie gehaal nie. Swaer Egmont in P.E. is opgekommandeer om berigte, indien enige, aan te stuur.
Gelukwensings OCHSE, Etheridge. 70 jaar. OCHSE- en BOOTH-gesin. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 15/01/2008)
Sterfgevalle BARNARD, Koos. Bekende bouer van Uitenhage. +10 Januarie 2008 by Viljoenstr 7, Uitenhage. Begrafnisdiens Woensdag 16 Jan 2008 11:00 Metodiste kerk, Uitenhage. Forest Hill- begraafplaas, P.E. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 15/0/2008) Navrae: Bossies 084 792 0442 / 041 991 1471
BARNARDO, Frederick Johannes. +Saterdag 12 Januarie 2008. Eggenote, kinders, kleinkinders. Verassingsdiens Dinsdag 15 Jan 2008 10:00 NG Kerk Heideveld, Rowallanpark. (P.E.) (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 15/01/2008) Cindy Strydom DOVES Port Elizabeth 041 365 5399
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3064
Datum: Wednesday, January 16, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Jacobs From: Louis Hurn
1b. Re: Jacobs From: J van der Grijp
1c. Re: Jacobs From: Louis Hurn
2a. Re: ds Andrew Murray From: Daniel Jacobs
2b. Re: ds Andrew Murray From: Johann Ahlers
3a. Re: Nasate van Johanna Elizabeth OBERHOLZER en Hermanus Petrus NIEUW From: Cornel Viljoen
3b. Re: Nasate van Johanna Elizabeth OBERHOLZER en Hermanus Petrus NIEUW From: Cathy
4a. Voorsate van Johanna Elizabeth OBERHOLZER, gebore 20 Feb 1857 From: Cornel Viljoen
4b. Re: Voorsate van Johanna Elizabeth OBERHOLZER, gebore 20 Feb 1857 From: Cathy
4c. Re: Voorsate van Johanna Elizabeth OBERHOLZER, gebore 20 Feb 1857 From: obie oberholster
5a. Verhouding met die Engelse From: paul.prinsloo
6a. Basson/Blanckenberg From: anita slabbert
6b. Re: Basson/Blanckenberg From: Annemie Lourens
7a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
7b. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
8a. Weereens Pienaar x Pieters - meer info From: Alta Roux
8b. Re: Weereens Pienaar x Pieters - meer info From: Alta Griffiths
9a. Re: Ogies grafte / Langseekoeigat From: BD Leach
10a. Re: JOUBERT-familie From: Janet Melville
11a. PAF Soekfunksie From: BD Leach
11b. Re: PAF Soekfunksie From: Alta Griffiths
12. Re: Ogies grafte / Langseekoeigat vir BAREND From: Alta Griffiths
13a. Kaapse Argief From: Ferdie
13b. Re: Kaapse Argief From: Dennis Laptop
14. Van Rooys op Gerrie Pretorius se musiek DVD From: Jan van Rooy Boodskap 1a. Jacobs Posted by: "Louis Hurn" [email protected] ljhurn Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:40 am (PST)
Hallo almal,
Kan iemand dalk help, my inligting is hier baie skraps, maar ek hoop maar. Ek is opsoek na enige inligting aangaande my Oupa Grootjie se tweede vrou. Hy was Louis Jacobus Kotze 2 3 1865 tot 23 11 1919. My ouma was Anna Maria Coetzee 1875 cira ek vermoed sy het in 'n konsentrasiekamp by Mafeking gesterf.
Al wat ek het van die tweede vrou is : Martha Gertruida Jacobs 21 Jan ? (vermoedelik ongeveer 1874) hulle troudatum was 6 6 1905 vermoedelik in Mafeking of Wolmaranstad.
Dankie en groete uit 'n WARM Durban.
Louis Hurn
Boodskap 1b. Re: Jacobs Posted by: "J van der Grijp" [email protected] jacquesvdg Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:19 am (PST)
Dag Louis.
Ongelukkig net slegte nuus:
1. Die Jacobs wat jy soek is in dieselfde gebied as my Jacobs ouma en dieselfde tyd (Boshof ca 1870's), maar volgens my info was my ouma die enigste kind, so ongelukkig kan ek nie met Jacobs help nie. 2. Net die volgende Maria Coetzee is op die Mafikeng ererol lyste: (Tensy sy baie vroeg in oorlog oorlede is)
Familienaam Voorname Geslag Ouderdom Datum Vanaf
Coetzee Maria S. v 2 11.11.01 Marico
Ek kry wel die volgende tussen my inligting: (NB: Ek het name van so 20 kampe alleenlik, nie almal)
Coetzee, Miss M A Coetzee Miss 26 Oct 1901 Bethulie RC
Coetzee, Ms Anna Maria Elizabeth Coetzee Ms Balmoral RC
Vriendelike Groete
Jacques van der Grijp
1c. Re: Jacobs Posted by: "Louis Hurn" [email protected] ljhurn Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:45 am (PST)
Hi Jacques,
Dankie, ek sal weer begin soek. Hierdie gedeelte is baie donker. Daar moes iets snaaks hier in die geskiedenis wees, want niemand in die familie weet van enigiets nie. Dankie vir die moeite, ek sal weer kontak.
Groete uit 'n warm Durban
Louis Hurn
Boodskap 2a. Re: ds Andrew Murray Posted by: "Daniel Jacobs" [email protected] Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:24 am (PST)
Beste Paul
Daar is 'n Murray-familiebond. Kontak vir Jan Blignaut by [email protected] Hy is 'n nasaat van Andrew Murray senior (die pa van die bekende Dr. Andrew Murray, bekende skrywer ens.) en behoort jou waarskynlik op die spoor van die Familiebond te kan sit. Daar is ook al 'n register van A Murray sr se nasate gepubliseer. Dit was 'n hele paar jaar gelede en as ek reg onthou was daar die name van 600+ nasate van hom in die register. Ek het 'n CD met foto's van 'n klomp oorspronklike preke, notas ens. van Dr. Andrew Murray wat ek teen die koste van die CD, posgeld en verpakking aan belangstellendes sal stuur. Dit beloop ongeveer R12. Ek het dit 'n paar jaar gelede in die NGK Argief afgeneem vir Leen van Valen. 'n Nederlander, wie se nuwe biografie oor Dr. A Murray later vanjaar gaan verskyn. Op 21.12.2007 het Leen gesê: "Het boek over Murray zal volgend jaar najaar verschijnen bij 'De Banier' in Utrecht." Hy het vir my toestemming gegee om die foto's aan belangstellendes te versprei.
Groete
Daniel Jacobs www.gendata.co.za
Boodskap 2b. Re: ds Andrew Murray Posted by: "Johann Ahlers" [email protected] jahlers1 Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:40 am (PST)
Beste Paul,
Ek het 'n groot belangstelling in een spesifieke been afstammelinge van hom (maar ek vors nie sy nasate in die algemeen na nie).
Die inligting waaroor ek wel beskik: 1. Die sg "Murray stamregister" in Jan 1956 deur Emma Horn gepubliseer. 2. Die spesifieke tak waaroor ek BAIE inligting het gaan deur stamvader Andrew Murray en sy dogter Isabella wat met Jan Hendrik HOFMEYR getroud was en lank predikantspaar op Somerset-Oos was.
As jy meer inligting gee kan ek dalk help.
Vriendelike groete, Johann Ahlers Pretoria
Boodskap 3a. Re: Nasate van Johanna Elizabeth OBERHOLZER en Hermanus Petrus NIEUW Posted by: "Cornel Viljoen" [email protected] cornel.viljoen Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:12 am (PST)
Goeie dag Cathy,
Hier is die nasate van Johanna Elisabeth OBERHOLZER en Hermanus Petrus Nieuwoudt wat ek op leer het. Hoop jy kan baat vind daarby.
Groete,
Cornel Viljoen
Melbourne, Australie
Descendants of Johanna Elisabeth OBERHOLZER
First Generation
1. Johanna Elisabeth OBERHOLZER, daughter of Michiel Adriaan OBERHOLZER and
Anna Maria ERASMUS, was born on 20 Feb 1857, was christened on 5 Apr 1857 in Fauresmith, Free State, and died before Mar 1902.
Johanna married Hermanus Petrus NIEUWOUDT, son of Tielman Carel NIEUWOUDT and Martha Susanna VAN DER WESTHUIZEN, on 4 Feb 1874 in Fauresmith, Free State. Hermanus was born on 28 Jul 1843, was christened on 13 Aug 1843 in Graaff- Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 1 Mar 1902 in Diyatalawa Hospital, Ceylon at age 58. The cause of his death was Pyaemia.
Children from this marriage were:
2 M i. Tielman Carel NIEUWOUDT was born on 9 Dec 1874, was christened on
7 Feb 1875 in Fauresmith, Free State, and died on 28 Jul 1913 in Kroonstad, Free State at age 38. Another name for Tielman was Charles NIEUWOUDT.
Noted events in his life were:
* He resided at Murray Street in Kroonstad, Free State.
Tielman married Elizabeth Louisa SNYMAN in Fauresmith, Free State.
3 M ii. Michiel Adriaan NIEUWOUDT was born on 17 Jun 1877, was christened on 5 Aug 1877 in Fauresmith, Free State, and died on 1 Oct 1950 in Bloemfontein, Free State at age 73.
Michiel married Anna Petronella BURGER circa 1898 in Nyassaland, Rhodesia. Anna was born on 29 Apr 1875 in Montagu, Cape Province and died on 25 Sep 1938 in Bloemfontein, Free State at age 63.
Michiel next married Sophia Barendina BURGER circa 1940 in Koppies, Free State.
4 F iii. Anna Maria NIEUWOUDT was born on 6 Jul 1879, was christened on 7 Sep 1879 in Fauresmith, Free State, and died circa 1895 in Fauresmith, Free State at age 16.
She never married and had no children
5 F iv. Martha Susanna NIEUWOUDT was born on 23 Mar 1882 and was christened on 7 May 1882 in Fauresmith, Free State.
6 F v. Johanna Elisabeth Jacoba NIEUWOUDT was born on 18 Jan 1884 and was christened on 6 Apr 1884 in Fauresmith, Free State.
7 M vi. Hermanus Petrus NIEUWOUDT was born on 15 Jul 1886, was christened on 5 Sep 1886 in Jacobsdal, Free State, and died on 25 Dec 1964 in Stilbaai, Cape Province at age 78.
Hermanus married Magdalena Albertina GERMISHUYSEN in Wolmaransstad, Transvaal. Magdalena was born circa 1888.
8 F vii. Helena Dorothea NIEUWOUDT was born on 6 Aug 1889, was christened on 1 Sep 1889 in Fauresmith, Free State, and died before Mar 1902 in Free State.
She never married and had no children
9 F viii. Maria Magdalena NIEUWOUDT was born on 5 Jun 1892, was christened on 4 Sep 1892 in Fauresmith, Free State, and died before Mar 1902 in Free State.
She never married and had no children
10 F ix. Anna Maria NIEUWOUDT was born on 8 Jul 1895, was christened on 28 Aug 1895 in Fauresmith, Free State, and died before Mar 1903 in Free State.
She never married and had no children
Boodskap 3b. Re: Nasate van Johanna Elizabeth OBERHOLZER en Hermanus Petrus NIEUW Posted by: "Cathy" [email protected] dickydube Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:34 am (PST)
More Corel, en baie dankie vir jou hulp hiermee - ek waardeer dit,
Baie groete, Cathy Nieuwoudt Birimngham V.S.A.
Boodskap 4a. Voorsate van Johanna Elizabeth OBERHOLZER, gebore 20 Feb 1857 Posted by: "Cornel Viljoen" [email protected] cornel.viljoen Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:15 am (PST)
Goeie dag Cathy,
Hier is die voorsate van Johanna Elizabeth OBERHOLZER soos ek dit in my databasis tans het. Hoop jy kan baat vind daarby.
Groete,
Cornel Viljoen
Melbourne, Australie
Ancestors of Johanna Elisabeth OBERHOLZER
First Generation
1. Johanna Elisabeth OBERHOLZER, daughter of Michiel Adriaan OBERHOLZER and Anna Maria ERASMUS, was born on 20 Feb 1857, was christened on 5 Apr 1857 in Fauresmith, Free State, and died before Mar 1902.
Johanna married Hermanus Petrus NIEUWOUDT, son of Tielman Carel NIEUWOUDT and Martha Susanna VAN DER WESTHUIZEN, on 4 Feb 1874 in Fauresmith, Free State.
Children from this marriage were: i. Tielman Carel NIEUWOUDT was born on 9 Dec 1874, was christened on 7 Feb 1875 in Fauresmith, Free State, and died on 28 Jul 1913 in Kroonstad, Free State at age 38. Another name for Tielman was Charles NIEUWOUDT. ii. Michiel Adriaan NIEUWOUDT was born on 17 Jun 1877, was christened on 5 Aug 1877 in Fauresmith, Free State, and died on 1 Oct 1950 in Bloemfontein, Free State at age 73. iii. Anna Maria NIEUWOUDT was born on 6 Jul 1879, was christened on 7 Sep 1879 in Fauresmith, Free State, and died circa 1895 in Fauresmith, Free State at age 16. iv. Martha Susanna NIEUWOUDT was born on 23 Mar 1882 and was christened on 7 May 1882 in Fauresmith, Free State. v. Johanna Elisabeth Jacoba NIEUWOUDT was born on 18 Jan 1884 and was christened on 6 Apr 1884 in Fauresmith, Free State.
vi. Hermanus Petrus NIEUWOUDT was born on 15 Jul 1886, was christened on 5 Sep 1886 in Jacobsdal, Free State, and died on 25 Dec 1964 in Stilbaai, Cape Province at age 78. vii. Helena Dorothea NIEUWOUDT was born on 6 Aug 1889, was christened on 1 Sep 1889 in Fauresmith, Free State, and died before Mar 1902 in Free State. viii. Maria Magdalena NIEUWOUDT was born on 5 Jun 1892, was christened on 4 Sep 1892 in Fauresmith, Free State, and died before Mar 1902 in Free State. ix. Anna Maria NIEUWOUDT was born on 8 Jul 1895, was christened on 28 Aug 1895 in Fauresmith, Free State, and died before Mar 1903 in Free State.
Second Generation (Parents)
2. Michiel Adriaan OBERHOLZER, son of Michiel Adriaan OBERHOLZER and Maria Magdalena SMIT, was born on 6 Sep 1819, was christened on 12 Mar 1820 in Beaufort West, Cape Province, and died on 19 Feb 1890 in farm "Schietmekaar", Fauresmith at age 70.
Michiel married Anna Maria ERASMUS on 29 Jun 1840 in Colesberg, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Michiel Adriaan OBERHOLZER was born on 18 Jul 1841, was christened on 4 Oct 1841 in Colesberg, Cape Province, and died on 23 Jun 1933 in farm "Schietmekaar", Fauresmith at age 91. ii. Lourens Marthinus OBERHOLZER was born on 18 Apr 1843 and was christened on 3 Jul 1843 in Colesberg, Cape Province. iii. Christoffel Johannes OBERHOLZER was born on 4 Apr 1846, was christened on 17 May 1846 in Colesberg, Cape Province, and died on 3 Oct 1917 on farm "Helpmekaar", Fauresmith at age 71. iv. Helena Dorothea OBERHOLZER was born on 30 Jan 1849 and was christened on 29 Apr 1849 in Fauresmith, Free State. v. Maria Magdalena OBERHOLZER was born on 10 Feb 1851 and was christened on 31 Mar 1851 in Fauresmith, Free State. vi. Petrus Zacharias OBERHOLZER was born on 14 Apr 1853, was christened on 29 May 1853 in Fauresmith, Free State, and died on 22 Jun 1941 in Fauresmith, Free State at age 88.
vii. Anna Maria OBERHOLZER was born on 30 Jun 1855, was christened on 12 Aug 1855 in Fauresmith, Free State, and died as an infant.
viii. Johanna Elisabeth OBERHOLZER
ix. Anna Maria OBERHOLZER was born on 4 Apr 1859 and was christened on 26 Jun 1859 in Fauresmith, Free State.
3. Anna Maria ERASMUS, daughter of Lourens Marthinus ERASMUS and Helena Dorothea BEKKER, was born on 13 Apr 1822, was christened on 20 Apr 1823 in Graaff- Reinet, Cape Province, died on 21 Feb 1899 in farm "Lemoenkloof", Fauresmith at age 76, and was buried in farm "Schietmekaar", Fauresmith.
Anna married Michiel Adriaan OBERHOLZER on 29 Jun 1840 in Colesberg, Cape Province.
Third Generation (Grandparents)
4. Michiel Adriaan OBERHOLZER, son of Michiel OBERHOLZER and Gerharda VISAGIE, was born in 1782, was christened on 14 Apr 1782 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died on 15 Jun 1845 in Fauresmith, Free State at age 63.
Michiel married Maria Magdalena SMIT on 16 Aug 1807 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Johanna Elisabeth Margaretha OBERHOLZER was born on 12 Jan 1809 and was christened on 16 Apr 1809 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. ii. Gerharda Magdalena Elisabeth OBERHOLZER was born on 5 Dec 1810, was christened on 11 Feb 1811 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 9 Aug 1867 in farm "Weltevreden", Fauresmith at age 56. iii. Maria Magdalena OBERHOLZER was born on 7 Dec 1812, was christened on 4 Oct 1813 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 22 Dec 1873 on farm "Kareepoort", Fauresmith at age 61. iv. Catharina Elisabeth OBERHOLZER was born on 24 Jun 1817, was christened on 6 Oct 1817 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 19 Apr 1858 on farm "Dassiepoort", Fauresmith at age 40. v. Michiel Adriaan OBERHOLZER
vi. Christoffel Johannes OBERHOLZER was born on 17 Nov 1821, was christened on 8 Sep 1822 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 3 Jun 1870 in farm "Paardekopsdam", Fauresmith at age 48. vii. Petrus Zacharias OBERHOLZER was born on 19 Sep 1825, was christened on 26 Dec 1825 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 3 Dec 1895 in Barkley West, Cape Province at age 70. viii. Anna Jacoba OBERHOLZER was born on 5 Mar 1829, was christened on 6 Jul 1829 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died as an infant. ix. Jacoba Wilhelmina OBERHOLZER was born on 3 Apr 1833 and was christened on 3 Nov 1833 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province.
x. Wilhelmina Adriana OBERHOLZER was born on 3 Apr 1836, was christened on 3 Oct 1836 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 15 Mar 1878 on farm "Brakfontein", Fauresmith at age 41.
Michiel next married Martha Elisabeth CLOETE on 12 Feb 1844 in Colesberg, Cape Province. They had no children.
5. Maria Magdalena SMIT, daughter of Christoffel SMIT and Johanna Elisabeth VAN WYK, was born in 1792, was christened on 19 Feb 1792, and died on 19 Jun 1842 in farm "Schietmekaar", Fauresmith at age 50.
Maria married Michiel Adriaan OBERHOLZER on 16 Aug 1807 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province.
6. Lourens Marthinus ERASMUS, son of Petrus Rasmus ERASMUS and Anna Maria KLOPPER, was born in 1797, was christened on 13 Apr 1797, and died on 14 Jul 1859 in farm "Skilpadkuil", Bloemfontein, Free State at age 62.
Lourens married Cornelia Dorothea LABUSCHAGNE, daughter of Jan LABUSCHAGNE and Dorothea VAN DEVENTER, in May 1816 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Lourens next married Helena Dorothea BEKKER on 5 Jul 1818 in Uitenhage, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Anna Maria ERASMUS
ii. Helena Dorothea ERASMUS was born on 14 Nov 1823 in farm "Lemoenkloof", Winterveld, Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, was christened on 20 Mar 1824 in Graaff- Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 2 Nov 1881 in farm "Blaauwboschnek", Boshof, Free State at age 57. iii. Geertuida Petronella ERASMUS was born on 12 Aug 1825 and was christened on 16 Mar 1826 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. iv. Lourens Marthinus ERASMUS was born on 30 Jun 1832 and was christened on 20 Jan 1833 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. v. Stephina Anna Catharina ERASMUS was born on 16 Mar 1839 in Kaffer River, Free State and died on 14 May 1867 in farm "Schilpadkuil", Boshof, Free State at age 28.
7. Helena Dorothea BEKKER .
Helena married Lourens Marthinus ERASMUS on 5 Jul 1818 in Uitenhage, Cape Province.
Fourth Generation (Great-Grandparents)
8. Michiel OBERHOLZER, son of Guilliam OBERHOLZER and Johanna Margaretha BERGMANN, was born in 1740 and was christened on 13 Nov 1740.
Michiel married Gerharda VISAGIE on 9 Dec 1770 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Guillaume Johannes OBERHOLZER was born in Mar 1775, was christened on 3 Mar 1776 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died on 31 May 1840 in Riet River, Free State at age 65. ii. Maria Magdalena OBERHOLZER was born in 1778 and was christened on 15 Mar 1778. iii. Michiel Adriaan OBERHOLZER iv. Petrus Zacharias OBERHOLZER was born in 1784 and was christened on 10 Apr 1784 in Paarl, Cape Province. v. Magdalena Elisabeth OBERHOLZER was born in 1787 and was christened on 5 Oct 1787. vi. Johanna Margaretha OBERHOLZER was born in 1788.
9. Gerharda VISAGIE, daughter of Arie VISAGIE and Maria DE NYS, was born in 1746 and was christened on 2 Oct 1746.
Gerharda married Michiel OBERHOLZER on 9 Dec 1770 in Paarl, Cape Province.
10. Christoffel SMIT.
Christoffel married Johanna Elisabeth VAN WYK.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Maria Magdalena SMIT
11. Johanna Elisabeth VAN WYK .
Johanna married Christoffel SMIT.
12. Petrus Rasmus ERASMUS, son of Pieter ERASMUS and Johanna Elisabeth BOCKELENBERG, was born in 1762 and was christened on 28 Feb 1762.
Petrus married Anna Maria KLOPPER on 9 Nov 1785 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Lourens Marthinus ERASMUS
ii. Barend Frederik ERASMUS was born in 1798 and was christened on 16 Sep 1798.
13. Anna Maria KLOPPER .
Anna married Petrus Rasmus ERASMUS on 9 Nov 1785 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Fifth Generation (Great Great-Grandparents)
16. Guilliam OBERHOLZER, son of Johann OBERHOLSTER (Stamvader) and Helena DU TOIT, was born in 1707 and was christened on 4 Dec 1707 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Guilliam married Johanna Margaretha BERGMANN on 30 Dec 1731 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Johannes Willem OBERHOLZER was born in 1732, was christened on 25 Jan 1733, and died before 1735 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Willem OBERHOLZER was born in 1735 and was christened on 20 Nov 1735. iii. Guilliam OBERHOLZER was born in 1737 and was christened on 7 Jul 1737. iv. Cornelis OBERHOLZER was born in 1739, was christened on 3 May 1739, and died before 1742 in Cape Town, Cape Province. v. Michiel OBERHOLZER vi. Cornelis OBERHOLZER was born in 1742, was christened on 21 Oct 1742, and died before 1748. vii. Helena Elisabeth OBERHOLZER was born in 1745 and was christened on 11 Apr 1745. viii. Gerrit Cornelis OBERHOLZER was born in 1748 and was christened on 21 Jul 1748. ix. Pieter OBERHOLZER was born in 1757 and was christened on 27 Nov 1757.
17. Johanna Margaretha BERGMANN, daughter of Willem Stevensz BERGMANN (Stamvader) and Helena MULDER From the Cape, was born in 1716 and was christened on 7 Jan 1717 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Johanna married Guilliam OBERHOLZER on 30 Dec 1731 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
18. Arie VISAGIE, son of Guilliam VISAGIE and Gerritje PRINSLOO, was born circa 1706.
Arie married Maria DE NYS on 2 Oct 1745.
Children from this marriage were: i. Gerharda VISAGIE ii. Johanna VISAGIE was born in 1750 and was christened on 19 Apr 1750. iii. Maria VISAGIE was born on 2 Feb 1757 and died on 16 Jul 1838 in farm "Sefanjespoort", Colesberg, Cape Province at age 81. iv. Alida VISAGIE was born in 1763 in Clanwilliam, Cape Province, was christened on 2 Oct 1763, and died on 13 Sep 1843 in Sneeuberg, Graaff-Reinet at age 80.
19. Maria DE NYS, daughter of Jan DE NYS and Johanna PIETERSE, was born in 1726, was christened on 17 Nov 1726, and died in Sep 1770 at age 44.
Maria married Arie VISAGIE on 2 Oct 1745.
24. Pieter ERASMUS, son of Lourens ERASMUS and Martha PIENAAR, was born in 1732 and was christened on 14 Apr 1732.
Pieter married Johanna Elisabeth BOCKELENBERG.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Daniel Jacob ERASMUS was born in 1758 and was christened on 5 Nov 1758.
ii. Petrus Rasmus ERASMUS
25. Johanna Elisabeth BOCKELENBERG, daughter of Daniel BOCKELENBERG and Elisabeth LORET, was born in 1735 and was christened on 24 Apr 1735.
Johanna married Pieter ERASMUS.
Sixth Generation (3rd Great-Grandparents)
32. Johann OBERHOLSTER (Stamvader) was born in 1674 in Zurich, Switzerland and died in 1723 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 49.
Johann had a relationship with Agnitie COLYN, daughter of Bastiaan COLYN
(Stamvader) and Maria EVERTS. Marriage status: unmarried.
Their child was: i. Johannes OBERHOLSTER was born in 1702 and was christened on 24 Oct 1702 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Johann next had a relationship with Johanna Marretje FROM THE CAPE. Marriage status: unmarried.
Their child was: i. Barbara OBERHOLSTER was born in 1708 and was christened on 20 Apr 1708 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Johann married Helena DU TOIT on 5 Jul 1706 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Guilliam OBERHOLZER
ii. Johannes OBERHOLZER was born in 1710 and was christened on 24 Aug 1710 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province. iii. Johanna Barbara OBERHOLZER was born in 1713, was christened on 16 Jun 1713 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died before 1776.
Johann next married Judith DU PLESSIS, daughter of Jean Prieur DU PLESSIS (Stamvader) and Marie Madeleine MENANTEAU, on 14 Jan 1714. They had no children.
33. Helena DU TOIT, daughter of Guillaume DU TOIT (Stamvader) and Sara Barendts COCHET, was born in 1690, was christened on 6 Aug 1690, and died circa 1713 in Cape Colony at age 23.
Helena married Johann OBERHOLSTER (Stamvader) on 5 Jul 1706 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
34. Willem Stevensz BERGMANN (Stamvader) was born in Netherlands and died in Cape Colony.
Willem married Helena MULDER From the Cape on 2 Oct 1718 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Wilhelmina Hendrina BERGMANN was born circa 1713. ii. Johanna Margaretha BERGMANN iii. Johannes BERGMANN was born in 1723 and was christened on 8 Aug 1723. iv. Gerrit BERGMANN was born in 1725 and was christened on 20 May 1725.
35. Helena MULDER From the Cape .
Helena married Willem Stevensz BERGMANN (Stamvader) on 2 Oct 1718 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
36. Guilliam VISAGIE, son of Pieter VISAGIE (Stamvader) and Catharina KIENS, was born in 1674 and was christened on 25 Nov 1674.
Guilliam married Gerritje PRINSLOO.
Children from this marriage were: i. Pieter VISAGIE was born circa 1701. ii. Arie VISAGIE iii. Izak VISAGIE was born circa 1708. iv. Lucas VISAGIE was born circa 1710. v. Nicolaas VISAGIE was born circa 1712. vi. Guilliam VISAGIE was born in 1714 and was christened on 7 Oct 1714. vii. Catharina VISAGIE was born in 1716 and was christened on 8 Nov 1716. viii. Alida VISAGIE was born in 1718 and was christened on 11 Dec 1718. Another name for Alida was Aaltje VISAGIE. ix. Gerrit VISAGIE was born in 1721 and was christened on 2 Feb 1721.
37. Gerritje PRINSLOO, daughter of Adriaan Gerrits PRINSLOO (Stamvader) and Aeltje CLAASEN, was born in 1681 and was christened on 24 Aug 1681 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Gerritje married Guilliam VISAGIE.
38. Jan DE NYS, son of Jan DE NYS (Stamvader) and Lysbet Fockese RODA, was born in 1701, was christened on 3 Apr 1701, and died circa 1732 in Cape Colony at age 31.
Jan married Johanna PIETERSE on 29 Jul 1725.
Children from this marriage were: i. Maria DE NYS ii. Elisabeth DE NYS was born in 1730, was christened on 10 Sep 1730, and died circa 1763 at age 33.
39. Johanna PIETERSE.
Johanna married Jan DE NYS on 29 Jul 1725.
Johanna next married Christian PETZOLD (Stamvader) on 3 Oct 1734.
The child from this marriage was: i. Anna Catharina PETZOLD was born circa 1736.
48. Lourens ERASMUS, son of Pieter ERASMUS (Stamvader) and Maria Elisabeth JOOSTE, was born in 1704, was christened on 22 Jun 1704, and died before 1736.
Lourens had a relationship with Catharina HOFFMAN, daughter of Johannes HOFFMAN (Stamvader) and Maria Louisa FROM THE CAPE. Marriage status: unmarried.
Their child was:
i. Lourens ERASMUS was born in 1729 and was christened on 21 Aug 1729 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Lourens married Martha PIENAAR on 9 Dec 1731.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Pieter ERASMUS
ii. Lourens ERASMUS was born in 1737, was christened on 6 Oct 1737 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died on 12 Dec 1794 in Het Land Van Waveren, Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 57. iii. Maria Elisabeth ERASMUS was born in 1740, was christened on 2 Jul 1740, and died before 1784. iv. Johannes ERASMUS was born in 1742 and was christened on 25 Mar 1742. v. Louisa ERASMUS was born in 1743, was christened on 19 Jan 1744, and died before Jan 1818. vi. Jacob ERASMUS was born in 1745 and was christened on 7 Nov 1745. vii. Carel ERASMUS was born in 1748 and was christened on 24 Mar 1748. viii. Philip ERASMUS was born in 1750 and was christened on 12 Apr 1750. ix. Martha Francina ERASMUS was born in 1757 and was christened on 20 Nov 1757.
49. Martha PIENAAR, daughter of Jacques PIENAAR and Louise CORDIER, was born circa 1716.
Martha married Lourens ERASMUS on 9 Dec 1731.
50. Daniel BOCKELENBERG, son of Johannes BOCKELENBERG (Stamvader) and Johanna VAN DEN BOSCH, was born in 1707 and was christened on 17 Jul 1707.
Daniel married Elisabeth LORET on 25 May 1732.
Children from this marriage were: i. Johannes BOCKELENBERG was born in 1733 and was christened on 12 Jul 1733. ii. Johanna Elisabeth BOCKELENBERG iii. Maria Petronella BOCKELENBERG was born in 1737 and was christened on 2 Jun 1737. iv. Daniel BOCKELENBERG was born in 1739 and was christened on 28 Jun 1739. v. Elizabeth BOCKELENBERG was born in 1741 and was christened on 21 May 1741. vi. Sara BOCKELENBERG was born in 1745 and was christened on 19 Dec 1745 in Paarl, Cape Province. vii. Anna BOCKELENBERG was born in 1743, was christened on 19 May 1743, and died before 1773. viii. Esther BOCKELENBERG was born in 1747 and was christened on 17 Sep 1747. ix. Geertruy BOCKELENBERG was born in 1749, was christened on 4 Jan 1750, and died before 1790.
51. Elisabeth LORET, daughter of Guillaume LORET (Stamvader) and Isabeau JOUBERT, was born in 1713 and was christened on 30 Sep 1713.
Elisabeth married Daniel BOCKELENBERG on 25 May 1732.
Seventh Generation (4th Great-Grandparents)
66. Guillaume DU TOIT (Stamvader) .
Guillaume married Sara Barendts COCHET on 16 May 1688 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was: i. Helena DU TOIT
67. Sara Barendts COCHET, daughter of Barendt Jansz COCHET and Jannetje Joosse VAN VOOREN, was born circa 1652 in Oosterhoebrug, Walcheren, Netherlands and died in Apr 1714 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 62.
Sara married Pierre DE CLERQ, son of Abraham DE CLERQ and Adriaenken Joos ONOFF, before 1670 in Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Abraham DE CLERQ (Stamvader) was born on 7 May 1670, was christened on 11 Oct 1671 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands, and died in 1745 in Cape Colony at age 75.
ii. Joost DE CLERQ was born in 1678, was christened on 16 Oct 1678 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands, and died circa 1713 in Cape Colony at age 35.
iii. Jeanne DE CLERQ was born in 1676 in Middelburg, Zeeland, Netherlands and was christened on 3 May 1676 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands. Another name for Jeanne was Johanna.
iv. Barendt DE CLERQ was born in 1674 and was christened on 14 Jan 1674 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands.
Sara next married Guillaume DU TOIT (Stamvader) on 16 May 1688 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
72. Pieter VISAGIE (Stamvader) was born in Belgium and died before 1682 in Cape Colony.
Pieter married Catharina KIENS on 21 Jun 1671 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Guilliam VISAGIE
ii. Izak VISAGIE was born in 1679, was christened on 10 Dec 1679, and died circa 1680 at age 1.
73. Catharina KIENS was born in Netherlands and died in Cape Colony.
Catharina married Pieter VISAGIE (Stamvader) on 21 Jun 1671 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Catharina next married Wilhelm MEYER (Stamvader) on 10 Apr 1682 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was: i. Lucas MEYER was born in 1684 and was christened on 14 May 1684 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Catharina next married Martin PAULSEN on 6 Aug 1690 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
74. Adriaan Gerrits PRINSLOO (Stamvader), son of Gerrit HENDRIKSZ and Willemtge JANS, was born in 1646 in Tergouw, Gouda, Netherlands, was christened on 30 Dec 1646 in St Janskerk, Gouda, Netherlands, and died circa 1697 in Cape Town, Cape Province at age 51.
Adriaan married Aeltje CLAASEN circa 1680.
Children from this marriage were: i. Gerritje PRINSLOO ii. Alida PRINSLOO was born in 1683 and was christened on 10 Oct 1683 in Cape Town, Cape Province. iii. Nicolaas PRINSLOO was born in 1686 and was christened on 11 Aug 1686 in Cape Town, Cape Province. iv. Joachim PRINSLOO was born in 1689 and was christened on 4 Feb 1689 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
75. Aeltje CLAASEN was born in 1662 in Ameyde, South Holland, Netherlands and was christened circa 1682 in Ameyde, South Holland, Netherlands.
Aeltje married Adriaan Gerrits PRINSLOO (Stamvader) circa 1680.
Aeltje next married Lourens HEYNS on 14 Dec 1698.
76. Jan DE NYS (Stamvader) died in 1713 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Jan married Lysbet Fockese RODA on 8 Aug 1694 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Antje DE NYS was born circa 1697 in Mauritius. ii. Aeltje DE NYS was born in 1699 and was christened on 31 May 1699. Another name for Aeltje was Aletta DE NYS. iii. Jan DE NYS iv. Jacobus DE NYS was born in 1702 and was christened on 18 Mar 1702.
77. Lysbet Fockese RODA .
Lysbet married Jan DE NYS (Stamvader) on 8 Aug 1694 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
96. Pieter ERASMUS (Stamvader) was born in Netherlands and died in 1731 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
Pieter married Maria Elisabeth JOOSTE in 1697.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Rasmus ERASMUS was born in 1698 and was christened on 21 Sep 1698.
ii. Lourens ERASMUS
iii. Jacob Pietersz ERASMUS was born in 1708 and was christened on 19 Aug 1708.
97. Maria Elisabeth JOOSTE was born circa 1676 in Middelburg, Zeeland, Netherlands and died in Sep 1723 in Cape Colony at age 47.
Maria married Pieter JANSEN.
Maria next married Pieter ERASMUS (Stamvader) in 1697.
98. Jacques PIENAAR, son of Jacques PINARD (Stamvader) and Esther FOUCHE, was born in 1692 in Cape Colony and died circa 1750 in Cape Colony at age 58.
Jacques married Louise CORDIER on 21 Jan 1714 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Hester PIENAAR was born in 1714, was christened on 23 Oct 1714, and died in Aug 1737 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 23. ii. Martha PIENAAR iii. Jacob PIENAAR was born in 1718, was christened on 4 Dec 1718 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died on 3 Jul 1787 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 69. iv. Johannes PIENAAR was born in 1722 and was christened on 18 Oct 1722 in Paarl, Cape Province.
99. Louise CORDIER, daughter of Louis CORDIER (Stamvader) and Francoise MARTINET, was born circa 1685 in Champagne, France and died on 22 Nov 1774 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 89.
Louise married Daniel JACOB, son of Pierre JACOB (Stamvader) and Suzanne DE VOS, circa 1702.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Pieter JACOB was born in 1703 and was christened on 14 Oct 1703.
ii. Maria JACOB was born in 1705 and was christened on 5 Feb 1705.
iii. Daniel JACOB was born in 1706 and was christened on 16 Oct 1706.
iv. Susanna JACOB was born in 1709 and was christened on 29 Sep 1709. v. Catharina JACOB was born in 1712, was christened on 13 Mar 1712, and died before 1752.
Louise next married Jacques PIENAAR on 21 Jan 1714 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
100. Johannes BOCKELENBERG (Stamvader) was born in 1668 in Netherlands and died in 1709 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 41.
Johannes married Magdalena ZAAIMAN, daughter of Daniel ZAAIMAN (Stamvader) and Pieternella VAN MEERHOFF, in 1697 in Mauritius.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Petronella BOCKELENBERG was born in 1698 in Mauritius.
ii. Johannes BOCKELENBERG was born in 1700 in Mauritius.
iii. Anna Elizabeth BOCKELENBERG was born circa 1702 in Mauritius.
iv. Susanna BOCKELENBERG was born in 1703 in Mauritius.
Johannes next married Johanna VAN DEN BOSCH on 12 Oct 1705 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Daniel BOCKELENBERG
ii. Johanna BOCKELENBERG was born in 1709 and was christened on 13 Oct 1709.
101. Johanna VAN DEN BOSCH, daughter of Jan VAN DEN BOSCH (Stamvader) and Cornelia HELM, was born in 1690 and was christened on 11 Jun 1690.
Johanna married Johannes BOCKELENBERG (Stamvader) on 12 Oct 1705 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Johanna next married Maurits VAN STADEN, son of Maarten VAN STADEN
(Stamvader) and Margaretha ERNST, on 13 Apr 1710.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Catharina VAN STADEN was born in 1711 and was christened on 26 Jul 1711 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
ii. Maurits VAN STADEN was born in 1713 and was christened on 10 Jun 1713 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Johanna next married Jurgen HANEKOM (Stamvader) circa 1713.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Sara HANEKOM was born in 1714, was christened on 2 Dec 1714, and died before 1743.
ii. Albert HANEKOM was born in 1723 and was christened on 17 Jan 1723.
iii. Gesina HANEKOM was born in 1729 and was christened on 1 Jan 1730 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
102. Guillaume LORET (Stamvader) was born in 1671 and died on 5 Jan 1718 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 47.
Guillaume married Isabeau JOUBERT on 23 Jan 1717.
Children from this marriage were: i. Pierre LORET was born in 1710, was christened on 27 Oct 1710, and died circa 1715 at age 5.
ii. Elisabeth LORET
iii. Pieter LORET was born in 1717 and was christened on 4 Apr 1717.
103. Isabeau JOUBERT, daughter of Pierre JOUBERT (Stamvader) and Isabeau RICHARD, was born in 1692. Another name for Isabeau was Elizabeth.
Isabeau married Guillaume LORET (Stamvader) on 23 Jan 1717.
Isabeau next married Paul ROUX, son of Paul ROUX (Stamvader) and Claudine SEUGNET, on 21 May 1719 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Paul ROUX was born in 1722 and was christened on 20 Dec 1722.
ii. Anna Claudina ROUX was born in 1725 and was christened on 22 Apr 1725. iii. Johannes Petrus ROUX was born in 1727 and was christened on 2 Nov 1727.
Eighth Generation (5th Great-Grandparents)
134. Barendt Jansz COCHET .
Barendt married Jannetje Joosse VAN VOOREN.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Sara Barendts COCHET
135. Jannetje Joosse VAN VOOREN .
Jannetje married Barendt Jansz COCHET.
148. Gerrit HENDRIKSZ .
Gerrit married Willemtge JANS.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Adriaan Gerrits PRINSLOO (Stamvader)
149. Willemtge JANS .
Willemtge married Gerrit HENDRIKSZ.
196. Jacques PINARD (Stamvader), son of Jacques PINEAU and Martha JOLAN, was born circa 1664, was christened on 29 Jun 1666 in Nantes, France, and died circa 1712 in Cape Colony at age 48.
Jacques married Esther FOUCHE on 10 Dec 1687 in French church, Delft,
Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Pierre PIENAAR was born in 1690, was christened on 14 May 1690 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died in 1771 in Vet River, Swellendam at age 81. Another name for Pierre was Pieter PIENAAR.
ii. Jacques PIENAAR
Jacques next married Marthe LE FEBRE, daughter of Pierre LE FEBRE (Stamvader) and Marie GUIGNART.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Martha PIENAAR was born in 1699, was christened on 23 Aug 1699 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died circa 1713 at age 14.
ii. Marie Madeleine PIENAAR was born in 1701.
iii. Abel PIENAAR was born circa 1703 and died circa 1735 at age 32.
iv. Esther PIENAAR was born in 1706, was christened on 30 Oct 1706 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died on 7 Dec 1725 at age 19.
v. Jean PIENAAR was born circa 1708 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province and died in Dec 1763 in Swellendam, Cape Province at age 55.
vi. Salomon Johannes PIENAAR was born circa 1710 and died circa 1786 at age 76.
197. Esther FOUCHE was born in 1667 in France and died in 1698 in Franschhoek, Cape Province at age 31.
Esther married Jacques PINARD (Stamvader) on 10 Dec 1687 in French church, Delft, Netherlands.
198. Louis CORDIER (Stamvader) died in 1702.
Louis married Francoise MARTINET.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Susanne CORDIER was born circa 1678 in Champagne, France and died circa 1715 in Cape Colony at age 37.
ii. Jeanette CORDIER was born circa 1684 in Champagne, France and died in Netherlands.
iii. Louise CORDIER
iv. Jean CORDIER was born circa 1687 in Champagne, France.
v. Marie CORDIER was born circa 1688 in Cape Colony.
vi. Jacques CORDIER was born in 1689 and was christened on 23 Oct 1689 in Cape Town, Cape Province. Another name for Jacques was Jacobus.
vii. Maarten CORDIER was born circa 1693 in Cape Colony.
viii. Philip CORDIER was born in 1698 and was christened on 26 Oct 1698 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
199. Francoise MARTINET died in 1702 in Cape Colony.
Francoise married Louis CORDIER (Stamvader).
202. Jan VAN DEN BOSCH (Stamvader) was born in Netherlands and died in Cape Colony.
Jan married Cornelia HELM on 28 Mar 1688 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Catharina VAN DEN BOSCH was born in 1688 and was christened on 29 Jan 1689.
ii. Johanna VAN DEN BOSCH
iii. Johannes VAN DEN BOSCH was born in 1692 and was christened on 13 Apr 1692.
203. Cornelia HELM, daughter of Hans HELM (Stamvader) and Geertruy WILLEMSE, was born in 1673, was christened on 17 Sep 1673 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died circa 21 Jun 1720 in Cape Colony at age 47.
Cornelia married Jan VAN DEN BOSCH (Stamvader) on 28 Mar 1688 in Cape Town,
Cape Province.
Cornelia next married Arie VAN WYK (Stamvader) in Oct 1693.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Roelof VAN WYK was born in 1694, was christened on 5 Sep 1694 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in Jul 1746 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 52. ii. Aletta VAN WYK was born in 1696 and was christened on 15 Jul 1696 in Cape Town, Cape Province. iii. Willem VAN WYK was born in 1698, was christened on 19 Jan 1698 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died circa 1771 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 73. iv. Sara VAN WYK was born in 1699 and was christened on 29 Nov 1699 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province. v. Adrianus VAN WYK was born in 1701, was christened on 25 Dec 1701 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died in 1703 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 2. vi. Maria VAN WYK was born in 1703. vii. Gerrit Arie VAN WYK was born in 1704, was christened on 14 Dec 1704, and died before 1740. viii. Adriaan VAN WYK was born circa 1705 and died before 1771. ix. Gerrit VAN WYK was born in 1707, was christened on 14 Dec 1707 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died on 12 Aug 1708 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 1. x. Catharina VAN WYK was born in 1710 and was christened on 20 Jul 1710 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province. xi. Hester VAN WYK was born in 1712 and was christened on 23 Oct 1712 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Cornelia next married Jacob KUTZER (Stamvader), son of Wenzeslaus KUTZER and
Unknown, on 15 Sep 1717.
Children from this marriage were: i. Johannes Jacobus COETZER was born in 1716 and was christened on 24 May 1716. ii. Dorothea COETZER was born in 1717, was christened on 19 Sep 1717, and died before 1746.
206. Pierre JOUBERT (Stamvader) was born circa 1664 in La Motte d'Aigues, Provence and died on 30 Jun 1732 in Cape Colony at age 68.
Pierre married Susanne REYNE on 1 Feb 1688 in Waalse Kerk, Brielle.
Pierre next married Isabeau RICHARD in Aug 1688 on the ship "Berg China" on the way to Cape of Good Hope.
Children from this marriage were: i. Josúe JOUBERT was born circa 1689. ii. Jacques JOUBERT was born in 1691. Another name for Jacques was Jacob. iii. Isabeau JOUBERT iv. Pierre JOUBERT was born in 1694 and died before Sep 1730. v. Jean JOUBERT was born in 1695, was christened on 7 Dec 1795 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died before 16 Mar 1738. vi. Francoise JOUBERT was born in 1697 and was christened on 11 Nov 1697 in Paarl, Cape Province. Another name for Francoise was Francina. vii. Louise JOUBERT was born in 1699, was christened on 6 Dec 1699 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died circa 1764 at age 65. viii. Gideon JOUBERT was born on 14 Aug 1704 and died in 1738 at age 34. ix. Maria JOUBERT was born circa 1704 and died before 24 Apr 1746. x. Francois JOUBERT was born in 1706, was christened on 28 Nov 1706 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died in 1758 at age 52. xi. Rachel JOUBERT was born circa 1710.
207. Isabeau RICHARD was born in 1668 in France and died in 1748 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 80.
Isabeau married Pierre MALAN (Stamvader).
Isabeau next married Pierre JOUBERT (Stamvader) in Aug 1688 on the ship "Berg China" on the way to Cape of Good Hope.
Ninth Generation (6th Great-Grandparents)
392. Jacques PINEAU .
Jacques married Martha JOLAN.
The child from this marriage was: i. Jacques PINARD (Stamvader)
393. Martha JOLAN .
Martha married Jacques PINEAU.
406. Hans HELM (Stamvader) was born in Netherlands and died in Cape Colony.
Hans married Geertruy WILLEMSE.
Children from this marriage were: i. Margaretha HELM was born in 1670 and was christened on 21 Jun 1671 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Dirkje HELM was born in 1671, was christened on 18 Jan 1672, and died in 1767 in Home of Claas Claasen at age 96. iii. Cornelia HELM iv. Maria HELM was born in 1675 and was christened on 24 Nov 1675. v. Geertruy HELM was born in 1678 and was christened on 29 Oct 1678.
407. Geertruy WILLEMSE .
Geertruy married Hans HELM (Stamvader).
Geertruy next married Gerrit JANZ (Stamvader) on 19 Mar 1690 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was: i. Johanna JANSEN was born in 1690 and was christened on 28 May 1690 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Boodskap 4b. Re: Voorsate van Johanna Elizabeth OBERHOLZER, gebore 20 Feb 1857 Posted by: "Cathy" [email protected] dickydube Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:34 am (PST)
Dankie Cornel,
Jy's 'n ******Super Ster****** Ek waardeer jou hulp hoor!!!
Groete, Cathy Nieuwoudt Birmingham V.S.A.
Boodskap 4c. Re: Voorsate van Johanna Elizabeth OBERHOLZER, gebore 20 Feb 1857 Posted by: "obie oberholster" [email protected] obieoberholster Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:12 am (PST)
Wow Cornel,
Waar krap jy alles uit????
Het jy iets oor die kinders van Guilliam Johannes Oberholster geb 8 September 1845. Sy sterf datum en vrou se besonderhede is ook nog op die stadiun onbekend.
Terloops ek het sy Familie Bybel (State Bybel), wat ook aan sy pa (Guilliam Johannes, geb 7 Sept 1816 en oorlede op 5 Aug 1887) behoort het, af gekom!!! Ongelukkig is daar niks voor in geskryf nie, maar n paar waardevolle dokumente gekry!!! hehe ... Soos in Goud!!!
Verder het ek ook die Familie bybel van Johannes Francois Petrus Oberholster, geb 13 Jun 1865 en oorlede 27 Nov 1950 gevind.
Afrika groete
Obie
Boodskap 5a. Verhouding met die Engelse Posted by: "paul.prinsloo" [email protected] paul.prinsloo Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:01 am (PST) sjoe dankie almal... ek sal maar my oom Luther moet gaan vra of hy Engels was of nie.. enige iemand wat 'n goeie medium ken?? lol
Paul
Boodskap 6a. Basson/Blanckenberg Posted by: "anita slabbert" [email protected] Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:02 am (PST)
Dagsê lede
Ek soek nou mos al geruime tyd na my my oupagrootjie se ouers. My Ma kuier tans by my en ek gesels net heeldag familiesake....so sy beginne dinge onthou. So ek gee nou wat ek het en dan wat sy onthou. Hoop julle kan so paar konneksies maak.
*Willem Johannes Frederik Basson*
*Malmesbury 26.11.1870 † Pretoria ?+- 1946
X Riebeeck Kasteel met Johanna Sophia Christina de Villiers *22.1.1867†18.9.1935 (d/v Stephanus Isaac de Villiers (* 27.10.1822 † Paarl 18.3.1869) en Charlotta Johanna Esterhuysen (1837 – 1898)
Hulle het 3 seuns gehad, almal gebore in Pretoria
Renier Johannes Georg Basson (my oupa)
Stephanus Isaac Basson
Willem Frederik Basson
My Ma onthou dat die oupa Willem Johannes Frederik Basson 'n suster gehad het. Sy was Cornelia Basson en sy is toe getroud met Sassie Blanckenberg hier in Bellville. Hy het die Blanckenbergs Garage gahad in Main rd, Bellville. Hulle kinders was Reinie, Basie, Jan, Babba (manlik), en Polla (die enigste dogter).
Die oudste seun, Reinie het getrou met Constance Townsend. (ek het haar as kind geken en ons het baie by hulle aan huis gekom, sy was die orreliste by die kerk) Hy het die Blanckenbergs Bodyworks gehad.
Kan iemand dalk nou help met die ouers van Willem Johannes Frederik Basson?
Sal vreeslik bly wees dankie.
Grote
Anita
Boodskap 6b. Re: Basson/Blanckenberg Posted by: "Annemie Lourens" [email protected] annemielourens Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:43 am (PST)
Ek hoop dit kan help.
BASSON, Renier Johannes George Died: 6 Jun 1940 Buried: Main Cemetery, Riebeek-Kasteel, District Malmesbury,Western Cape, RSA Note: Renier Johannes George Basson Getroud met Magdalena Catharina Walters. Bron: Grafsteen, Register, Blok B2: Ry 5: Nr.6
Groete Annemie Lourens
Boodskap 7a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:14 am (PST)
P 82 1864
481 Teunis Johannes geb 18 Sept 1863
Ouders: Barend Jacobus VORSTER
Alida Suzanna Margaretha BOTHA
Get: Georg Frederik SNYMAN en
Magdalena Catharina BOTHA
Abraham Christiaan Johannes DUVENAGE en
Lourita ? Jacoba VAN HEERDEN
482 Elsje Mararetha Catharina geb 25 Nov 1863
Ouders: Johan Herman Bodes ELIAS ?
Johanna Margaretha OELOFSE – geen lidmaat
Get: Martinus Nicolaas OELOFSE en
Elsje Magdalena Catharina RAATZ /ROETZ – doopmoeder
Nicolaas Theodorus OELOFSE
Adriana Johanna Janetta Willemina PELTZER
483 Barbara Jacomina geb 24 Mei 1864
Ouders: Samuel Hendrik VERCEUIL
Aletta Petronella GROBLER
Get: Pieter GROBLER en
Barbara Jacomina PELTZER
Johan Frederik VERCEUIL en
Susara Frederika GREEFF
Petrus Christoffel VERCEUIL en
Maria OLIVIER
484 Anna Maria Elizabetha geb 21 April 1864
Ouders: Gerhardus Jacobus ROETS - geen lidmaat
Martha Catharina DE WET
Get: Stephanus Andries VAN EMMENIS – doopvader
Francina ROETS
485 Pieter geb 20 July 1863
Ouders: Pieter GROBLER
Maria Magdalena Willemina FOURIE
Get: Pieter GROBLER en
Barbara Jacomina PELTZER
Johannes Petrus KLOPPER en
Maria Jacoba MINNAAR
Dina Geertruida CHAMBERS geb FOURIE
P 83 1864
486 Cornelis Abraham Diderik Johannes geb 4 Aug 1863
Ouders: Cornelis Abraham Willem VAN WYK
Suzanna Margaretha FORTMAN
Get: Johannes Jacobus Hendrik FORTMAN en
Johanna Adriana NIEMAND
Catharina ? Johanna COMBRINK
487 Petrus Johannes geb 20 Dec 1863
Ouders: Philippus Stephanus JAKOBS
Johanna Aletta KOETZER
Get: Sara Elof GROBLER
Elsje Maria COETZER
Daniel Stephanus JAKOBS
488 Gertina Petronella Dorelina Jacoba geb 21 Mei 1864
Ouders: Stoffel Johannes SNYMAN – geen lidmaat
Maria Johanna NEL
Get: Johannes Augustinus BREET – doopvader
Dorothea Magdalena Carolina COMBRINK
Suzanna Catharina Willemina COMBRINK
489 Cornelia Maria Catharina geb 2 Juny 1864
Ouders: Okkert Roedolph BRITZ
Suzanna Elizabetha DE WIT
Get: Johannes Lodewyk PRETORIUS en
Elsje Jacoba Maria Willemina BRITZ
Frederik Christoffel DE WIT en
Catharina Margaretha PRETORIUS
GEDOOPT DEN 8 AUGUSTUS
490 Martha Maria Magdalena geb 7 Oct 1863
Ouders: Jacobus Daniel VENTER
Anna Sophia Catharina VENTER
Get: Jacobus Daniel VENTER
Martha Maria Magdalena ROBERTSE
Andries Hendrik POTGIETER
Aletta Sophia VENTER
P 84 1864
OP VOORSTEL VAN DEN KERKRAAD WORD HET KIND VAN J DE BEER EN ONSE SEGEL DUS OVERGESCREVEN
491 Pieter Hendrik - geb 17 July 1862 - gedoopt door den Weleerw heer Haikid den 20 July 1863
Ouders: Jakob Matteus Christiaan DE BEER
Helena Elizabetha HERBST
Get: Nicolaas Sara Suzanna DE BEER geb PRINSLOO
Anna Willemina DE BEER
Jan Johannes NORTJEE
Frans LOTTERING
Helena LOTTERING
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG DEN 14 AUGUSTUS
492 Maria Magdalena Gertruida geb 30 Maart 1864
Ouders: Theodorus Hermanus Gerhardus FOURIE
Johanna Magdalena ROETS
Get: Johannes Jacobus ROETS
Susara Margaretha POTGIETER
Petrus Johannes SNYMAN
Petronella Margaretha ROBBERTSE
GEDOOPT DEN 20 AUGUSTUS
493 Philippus Petrus geb 28 JUly 1864
Ouders: Piter GROBLER
Johanna Adriana JAKOBS
Get: David Hermanus Stephanus JAKOBS – jonkman
Philippus Stephanus JAKOBS
Aletta Johanna VERSTER
Johannes Petrus BENIEKE
Philippina Willemina SMIT
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 7b. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:15 am (PST)
P 85 1864
GEDOOPT 28 AUGUSTUS
494 Frederik Christoffel geb 4 Januarie 1864
Ouders: Christoffel Gerardus SNYMAN
Catharina Frederika Sofeia ELOF
Get: Gerardus Jakobus SNYMAN
Hendrika KRUGER
Georg Frederik SNYMAN
Magdalena Willemina BOTHA
GEDOOPT 28 AUGUSTUS
495 Aletta Sophia geb 27 Dec 1863
Ouders: Pieter Johannes Lodewyk VENTER
Maria Sabella Magdalena KLERK
Get: Petrus Wilhelmus GEYSER en
Aletta Sofeia VENTER
Frans Johannes VAN DYK en
Meintja Margaretha KRUGER
GEDOOPT 28 AUGUSTUS
496 Klaas Jacobus geb 15 Feb 1864
Ouders: Philippus Rudolf PRINSLOO
Johanna Margaretha DE BEER
Get: Christoffel Johannes DE PLOOI en
Sofeia Elizabetha Frederika DE BEER
Jacobus Daniel VENTER en
Catharina Maria DORFLING
P 86 1864
GEDOOPT RHENOSTERPOORT 7 AUG 1864
497 Anna Elizabetha geb 15 July 1864
Ouders: Stephanus Martinus VENTER
Hendrika Jacoba Maria DUVENAGE
Get: Abraham Petrus DUVENAGE en
Johanna Catharina Elizabetha JAKOBS
Petrus Wilhelmus GEYSER en
Aletta Sofeia VENTER
GEDOOPT ZOUTPANSBERG 11 SEPT 1864
498 Maria Sofeia Elizabetha geb 24 Aug 1864
Ouders: Joachim Petrus JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Susanna Louisa LA GRANGE
Get: Johannes Zacharias GROBLER en
Maria Sofeia Elizabetha LA GRANGE
Stephanus Johannes JANSE VAN RENSBURG en
Elizabetha Helena BOTHA
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG 18 SEPT 1864
499 Johannes Hendrik Jacobus geb 23 July 1864
Ouders: Hendrik Rutgen SCHNELL
Antoinetta Dorothea VOORTMAN
Get: Johannes Augustinus BUIRT ? en
Dorothea Magdalena Carolina COMBRINK
P 87 1864
500 Hendrina Gertruida geb 1 Oct 1863 ?
Ouders: Johannes Daniel Jacobus VAN NIEKERK
Margaretha Catharina Geertruida ALINGA
Get: Jacobus VAN NIEKERK en
Antje VAN NIEKERK
Wynand ROELOFSEN en
Philippina Willemina JAKOBSE
Jacobus DUVENAGE en
Echtgenote
501 Hendrik Lammer geb 24 Oct 1863
Ouders: Abrhaman Christiaan Johannes DUVENAAR
Louisa Jacoba VAN EEDE weduwee BOTHA
Get: Berend Jacobus VORSTER en
Aaltje BOTHA
Teunis Johannis BOTHA en
Maria Suzanna BOTHA
9 OCTOBER GEDOOPT
502 Hesther Margrietha geb 15 Oct 1863
Ouders: Jacobus HAAGEN
Hesther Margrietha FOURIE getrouwd met HAAGEN
Get: Marthinus Wessel PRETORIUS en Echtgenote
GFEDOOPT 16 OCTOBER
503 George Andries geb 2 April 1864
Ouders: George Andries ROTH
Johanna Christina Elizabetha ROTH /JANTZEN
Get: George Andries ROTH – weduwenaar
Suzanna Georgelina Maria BOTHA / MARNITZ
Jonkheer Regenald Alphonsus VAN NIKERK
Jacoba Magdalena NUNUS / MARNITZ
P 88 1864
504 Jan George geb 14 Sept 1864
Ouders: Michiel Frederick DUVENAGE
Jacoba Johanna Catharina DUVENAGE / DUVENAGE
Get: Jan George DUVENAGE en
Anna Carolina DUVENAGE / BOTHA
Johanna Jacoba Catharina DUVENAGE – weduwee
505 Hendrik Jacobus geb 10 July 1864
Ouders: David Johannis KRUGER
Petronella POTGIETER
Get: Pieter Ernest KRUGER en
Willemina Christina STEIN
Johannes Lodewicus BOTHA en
Petronella VAN DER BERG
506 Cornelis Johannis Frederik geb 14 Dec 1864
Ouders: Johannes Hendrik DU PLOY
Helena Elisabet VAN DER BERG
Get: Jakob DE ZOUZA (Portugees) en
Cornelia Johanna DU PLOY
Cornelis Johannes Frederik DU PLOY en
Elisabetha Magdalena UYS
P 89 1864
GEDOOPT DEN 23 OCTOBER
507 Jan Hendrik Louis geb 13 Aug 1864
Ouders: Jan Louis VENTER
Jacoba Aletta Frederika DORFLING
Get: Jan Louis VENTER en
Suzanna Catharina Petronella VENTER
Nicolaas Jacobus JANSE VAN RENSBURG en
Aletta Maria DORFLING
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 8a. Weereens Pienaar x Pieters - meer info Posted by: "Alta Roux" [email protected] genealogiefreak Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:48 am (PST)
Lysteraars
Weereens 'n beroep op iemand met 'n Pienaar boek:
Matthys Petrus van Huyssteen Pienaar *ca 1880 +ca 1971 Bethlehem X 5.6.1906 met Johanna Catharina Pieters *9.12.1882 +ca 1951 Bethlehem.
Hulle het inderdaad net drie kinders gehad.
Ek soek steeds na sy *datum. Sy ma was 'n van Huyssteen en op een of ander manier familie van Dr Beyers Naude.
Miskien help dit? GRoete Alta van Kinross
Boodskap 8b. Re: Weereens Pienaar x Pieters - meer info Posted by: "Alta Griffiths" [email protected] griffithsalta Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:13 am (PST)
Alta
SAG 8 (p 80) b8c8d5e6f10
Matthys Petrus van Huyssteen PIENAAR * 10 Jun 1880 = Knysna 17 Jul 1880 sv Salomon Hendrik Josephus * Riversdal 26 Jul 1833 = Swellendam 20 Apr 1834 + Hangklip, Knysna 15 Jan 1887 x Knysna 4 Jul 1859 Jacomina Cornelia Hendirna VAN HUYSTEEN * 11 Jul 1840 + Hangklip, Knysna 2 Aug 1883
Volgens die boek is die man Matthys Petrus van Huyssteen PIENAAR * 10 Jun 1880 nog ongetroud!
Alta Griffiths Posbus 1998 DURBANVILLE 7551
Tel: 021 - 975 5491 Sel: 083 948 5207
Navorsing: Volle vanne:- Rudolph, Van der Sandt, Gloy, Cothill. Asook die Oliviers en Slabberts van Heidelberg, Tvl tot by 1930
Boodskap 9a. Re: Ogies grafte / Langseekoeigat Posted by: "BD Leach" [email protected] bdleach19490515 Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:50 am (PST)
Alta,
Ek het die gesprek oor die plaas Langzeekoegat het effens gemis - maar daar het nietemin iewers 'n klokkie by my gelui. Na 'n gesoek onthou ek toe dat dit Corrie Bouwer se familie plaas was.
Soos iemand anders al gesê het , die plaas Langzeekoegat lê so ongeveer 10-12 km buite Nigel op die pad na Devon (noordoos van Nigel). Ek sien daar is inderdaad 2 plase met dieselfde naam nl. Langzeekoegat 323 IR en Langzeekoegat 325 IR. Hulle lê langs mekaar - moontlik was dit oorspronklik een plaas.
Corrie Bouwer van Wonderboom, Pretoria se oupa het 'n gedeelte van die plaas besit en is in 1961 daar op die plaas oorlede. Sy pa, Petrus Frederik*1903 en twee van sy ooms, Jan Gabriel*1912 en Barend Daniel*1916 was nog op die plaas toe hul pa oorlede is.
Hy sê dat van die name van ander mense op aangrensende plase (ook gedeeltes vanh Langzeekoegat) wat hy nog kan onthou is Basson, Alberts, oom Manie Ackerman, Pienaar en Groesbeek. Jy kan hom skakel by 012 567 2394.
groete, barend leach
Boodskap 10a. Re: JOUBERT-familie Posted by: "Janet Melville" [email protected] jmelvillexsinetcoza Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:04 am (PST)
Ek sal ook graag wil weet indien wel is haar ma n van der Merwe en haar dogter trou met n van der Merwe;. Ek het die storie alreeds bekyk maar kan nie nou onthou tot watter gevolgtrekking ek gekom het nie.
Janet Melville Posbus 15215 Emerald Hill PE 6011 083 642 7744 H/Faks: 041 3792077 Researching: van der Merwe, Melville, Rudman, William Reynolds, Van Lingen and East Cape families
Boodskap 11a. PAF Soekfunksie Posted by: "BD Leach" [email protected] bdleach19490515 Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:06 am (PST)
Beste kenners (want daar is baie),
Weet iemand of dit moontlik is om met die PAF program te soek na enide naam of plek wat in die notas gedeelte van die data voorkom ?
Ek kry net 'n soek funksie vir individuele name of RIN/MRIN nommers.
Alta se versoek oor die plaas Langzeekoegat het by my " 'n klokkie laat lui" . Ek het geweet dat ek al die naam gesien het maar kon nie onthou waar nie. Die naam het voorgekom in die plek - DEATH , PLACE van die indivudu se rekords , sowel as in die notas by van die persone. Hoe soek mens daarvoor?
groete, barend leach
Boodskap 11b. Re: PAF Soekfunksie Posted by: "Alta Griffiths" [email protected] griffithsalta Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:56 am (PST)
Barend
>Weet iemand of dit moontlik is om met die PAF program te soek na enide >naam of plek wat in die notas gedeelte van die data voorkom ?
Verskoon die taal - maar ek weet nie hoe anders om te verduidelik sonder om myself hier in 'n knoop te kry nie!
Go SEARCH - heel bo aan PAF dan ADVANCED FOCUS / FILTER by RELATIONSHIP FILTER - kies target group by FIELD FILTER - kies DEFINE 'n nuwe blad maak oop - kies ANY PLACE (of NOTES) van die lys kliek op [>] Hou keuse op FULL PLACE Tik in dorp / plek naam in die TEXT box gaan OK weer OK op die FILTERED LIST kies [<< Prev] en dan langs dit NEXT as jy die volgende persoon wil sien wat op die betrokke plek gebore is
Lekker aand
Alta
Boodskap 12. Re: Ogies grafte / Langseekoeigat vir BAREND Posted by: "Alta Griffiths" [email protected] griffithsalta Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:22 am (PST)
> Soos iemand anders al gesê het , die plaas Langzeekoegat lê so ongeveer > 10-12 km buite Nigel op die pad na Devon (noordoos van Nigel). Ek sien > daar is inderdaad 2 plase met dieselfde naam nl. Langzeekoegat 323 IR en > Langzeekoegat 325 IR. Hulle lê langs mekaar - moontlik was dit > oorspronklik een plaas.
Dankie baie, Barend - ek gaan vir Corrie skakel. Dit is definitief die regte area! Oupagrootjie SLABBERT is op Nigel oorlede!
Lekker aand
Alta Griffiths Posbus 1998 DURBANVILLE 7551
Tel: 021 - 975 5491 Sel: 083 948 5207
Navorsing: Volle vanne:- Rudolph, Van der Sandt, Gloy, Cothill. Asook die Oliviers en Slabberts van Heidelberg, Tvl tot by 1930
Boodskap 13a. Kaapse Argief Posted by: "Ferdie" [email protected] ferdie_van_wyk Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:24 am (PST)
Goeienaand Medegeners,
Ek het nou net mooi drie keer ‘n versoek aan die KAB gerig en wel na die adres hienaas. '[email protected]' Ek het dit spesifiek vir aandag vir ‘n mev Le Roux gemaak. Die eerste keer in November, daarna laat in Desember en nou weer die afgelope Sondagaand. Die versoek was vir afskrifte van bepaalde dokumente.
Nodeloos om te sê ek het tot dusver geen reaksie gehad nie, nie eers erkenning van ontvangs nie.
Het enigiemand dalk raad oor hoe ek die saak verder kan hanteer?
Groete
Ferdie van Wyk
Die van Wyks van Tarka en die Van der Walts van Colesberg. Doringkloof, Centurion. 082-556-8031
Boodskap 13b. Re: Kaapse Argief Posted by: "Dennis Laptop" [email protected] dennis_pretorius Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:55 am (PST)
Hallo Ferdie
Ek het in September - en elke maand daarna - die maksimum aantal sterftekennisse bestel ( 50 ) en het 18 Desember die eerste 50 ontvang.
Daar is nou reeds 200 Scott-boedels se sterftekennisse wat uitstaande is !!
Erika le Roux is die dame in beheer van die aangeleentheid - skakel haar gerus en vra. Ek skakel elke paar weke - of dit help weet ek nog nie.
Aan die positiewe kant - die een bestelling wat reed gestuur is, was volledig uitgevoer en die gehalte van die afdrukke is baie goed ! en vir R 40 vir 50 afskrifte is gladnie sleg nie.
groetnis
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Boodskap 14. Van Rooys op Gerrie Pretorius se musiek DVD Posted by: "Jan van Rooy" [email protected] jlvanrooy Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:50 pm (PST)
Ek en my wederhelf sit Saterdagaand en kyk na "Ek sing vir jou Bles" deur Gerrie Pretorius op kykNET. Die voorlaaste lied, "deur die jare heen" het ons heeltemal verbaas gehad want op die groot skerm agter die sanger wys hulle 'n video van die Van Rooy- familie!
My oom Dirk van Rooy het die familie 50 jaar gelede met sy 8mm rolprentkamera afgeneem. Sy seun Marius het dit meer as 10 jaar gelede op videoband laat sit. Ek het 'n jaar en 'n half gelede die video geredigeer om dit meer kykbaar te maak en dit op DVD gesit. Die DVD is vir die familie uitgedeel en nou kan ons hierdie stukkie kosbare geskiedenis weer almal geniet.
Nou wonder ons almal waar hulle die DVD in die hande gekry het.
Groete Jan van Rooy Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3065
Datum: Wednesday, January 16, 2008
Daar is 2 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1.1. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
1.2. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert Boodskap 1.1. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:16 am (PST)
GEDOOPT OP DEN HUIZE STERKLOOP PLAATS VAN DEN OUDERLING PIET VENTER RENOSTERPOORT OP DEN 13DEN NOVEMBER 1864
508 Elisabet geb 20 Mei 1864
Ouders: James Edward MOULDER
Jacoba Johanna Willemina MARAIS
Get: Christina Johanna WALLENDEN /MARAIS
Salomon Johannes MARAIS
Adriaan Johannes MARAIS
Judith Dederik Suzanna MARAIS / SWART
509 Christina Jacoba geb 22 Sept 1864
Ouders: Stephanus Andries VAN EMMENIS
Anna Francina ROETS
Get: Jan Johannes STRYDOM en
Anna Johanna Catharina VAN EMMENIS
Johannes Arnoldus BREEDT en
Gerharda Helena VAN WYK
510 Johanna Elizabetha geb 23 Juny 1864
Ouders: Petrus Jacobus VAN STADEN
Maria Johanna VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
Get: Petrus Jacobus VAN DER WESTHUIZEN en
Johanna Elizabetha SCHOEMAN
Martinus Petrus VAN STADEN en
Martha Maria BOSHOF
P 90 1964
511 Adriaan Jacobus Hermanus geb 1 Nov 1864
Ouders: Teunis Johannis BOTHA
Adriana Maria Jacoba DU PLESSIS
Get: Johannes Jacobus GEYSER en
Margrieta Magdalena BOTHA
Petrus Gasparus SNYDERS en
Jacoba Johanna Pieternella Maria JONKER
512 Margrieta Sophia Johanna geb 5 Aug 1863
Ouders: Jan Hendrik VENTER
Maartina Suzanna Petronella DU PLOY
Get: Stoffel Cornelis DU PLOY en
Sofia Elisabetha Frederika DE BEER
Piet Petrus Gasparus SNYDERS en
Jacoba Johanna Pieternella Maria JONKER
513 Aletta Sofeia geb 2 Sept 1864
Ouders: Hendrik Jacobus VENTER
Eliza. Suzanna FOURIE
Get: Pieter Wilhelmus GEYSER en
Aletta Sofeia VENTER
Philippus Rudolf PRINSLOO en
Johanna Margaretha DE BEER
514 Suzanna Hendrina geb 10 Juny 1864
Ouders: Jan Louis VENTER
Aletta Sofeia VENTER
Get: Jacobus Daniel VENTER en
Anna Sofeia Catharina VENTER
Stephanus Marthinus VENTER en
Anna Catharina VENTER
P 91 1864
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG 20 NOV
515 Douw Gerbrand geb 19 Oct 1864
Ouders: Charles Elof GROBLER
Elsje Maria KOETZER
Get: Neeltje Christina GROBLER / ELOF
Douw Gerbrand GROBLER en
Jacoba Hendrina ELOF
GEDOOPT 4 DEC
516 Anna Catharina Maria geb 4 Aug 1864
Ouders: Hendrik Koenraad FOURIE
Anna Catharina Maria HELBERG
Get: Johannes Zacharias GROBLER en
Gertruida Suzanna FOURIE
Maria Magdalena Willemina Gertruida Josepha FOURIE en
Nicolaas Johannes GROBLER
Pieter Daniel DU PREZ en
Engela Gertruida PRETORIUS
GEDOOPT DEN 25 DEC
517 Michiel Christiaan geb 13 Oct 1863
Ouders: Johannes Willem HORN
Esther Petronella HORN / BOTHA
Get: Jacobus Marthinus BOTHA en
Aletta Johanna BOTHA / FORSTER
Hendrik Kemper WILLEMS en
Cecilia Petronell WILLEMS / HORN
P 92 1864
518 Petrus Jacobus Johannes geb 13 Nov 1864
Ouders: Stephanus Marthinus VENTER
Esther maria VENTER / ROBERTSE
Get: Petrus Wilhelmus GEYSER en
Aletta Sofeia GEYSER / VENTER
Stephanus Marthinus VENTER en
Hendrina Jacoba Maria DUVENAGE
519 Petroenlla Margaretha geb 6/8 Dec 1864
Ouders: Petrus Johannes SNYMAN
Petronella Margaretha SNYMAN / ROBERTSE
Get: Petrus Paulus HUGO en
Magdalena Willemina Gertruida ROETS
Abraham Christiaan Johannes DUVENAGE en
Louisa Jacoba VAN EEDEN
520 Tobias Georg geb 11 Nov 1864
Ouders: Willem Jan Hendrik POTGIETER
Johanna Wilhelmina POTGIETER / LA GRANGE
Get: Johannes Petrus LA GRANGE en
Catharina Elizabetha JAKOBS
Johannes Zacharias GROBLER en
Maria Sofeia Elizabetha LA GRANGE
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 1.2. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:18 am (PST)
P 93 1864
521 Suzanna Magdalena geb 16 Oct 1864
Ouders: Jan Georg DUVENAGE
Anna Jacomina DUVENAGE / BOTHA
Get: Abraham Petrus DUVENAGE en
Johanna Catharina Elizabeth JAKOBS
Jan VAN ROOYEN en
Sannie BOTHA
522 Martha Maria Magdalena geb 23 Aug 1864
Ouders: Jacobus Daniel VENTER
Cornelia Sofeia VENTER / VAN DYK
Get: Gerhardus VENTER
Jan Louis VENTER en
Aletta Sofeia VENTER
523 David Stephanus geb 13 Sept 1864
Ouders: Jan Petrus JAKOBS
Johanna Maria Jacoba JAKOBS / ELOF
Get: Filippus Jacobus JACOBS en
Aletta Johanna Jacoba VENTER
Paulus Stephanus BOTHA en
Johanna Maria Jacoba BOTHA / VAN DYK
P 94 1864
524 Hendrik Johannes geb 28 Aug 1864
Ouders: Hendrik Johannes DUVENAGE
Sibella Johanna DUVENAGE
Get: Johannes Georg DUVENAGE en
Maria Magdalena STEIN
525 Paul Stefanus geb 21 Nov 1864
Ouders: Charles Johannes ELOF
Andrea Jacomina BOTHA
Get: Paul Stefanus BOTHA en
Johanna Maria Jacoba VAN DYK
Stoffel Lodevicus BOTHA
526 Elizabetha Maria geb 13 April 1864
Ouders: Jan Dirk GROBLER
Elisabetha Maria WOLHUTER
Get: Johannes Hermanus GROBLER en
...
GEDOOPT OP 1 JAN 1865
P 95
527 Johanna Suzanna geb 2 Dec 1864
Ouders: Hans Jurie HUMAN
Wilhelmina Johanna HUMAN / MARé
Get: Johanna Suzanna HUMAN en
Petrus Gerhardus MARé
528 Christoffel geb 9 Nov 1864
Ouders: Philip Karel SMIT
Carolina Willemina SMIT / MINNAAR
Get: Casper BADENHORST en
Catharina Willemina MINNAAR
Michiel Frederik DUVENAGE en
Jacoba Johanna DUVENAGE / DUVENAGE
GEDOOPT TEN HUIZE VAN DEN HEER HAAGEN WEGENS GEVAARLYKE ZIEKTE OP DEN 11 JAN 1865
529 Maria geb November 1864
Ouders: Jacobus HAAGEN en
Hester Margaritha HAAGEN / FOURIE
Get: D.L. MARé
Jacob MIDDEL
GEDOOPT DEN 15 JAN 1865
P 96
530 Amarencie Margaretha geb 25 Dec 1864
Ouders: Jan Hendrik JAKOBS
Cornelia Johanna Suzanna JAKOBS / ERASMUS
Get: Theodorus ERASMUS en
Annamarie Margaretha ERASMUS / JACOBS
Hendrik Gerhardus JAKOBS en
......
Indien de tweede getuige troudt, wordt hy de eerste getuige
GEDOOPT DE 15 JAN 1865
531 Casimiro Peidada geb 30.10.1864
Ouders: Lourens Marian NUNES (Roomsch Catoliek)
Jacoba Magdalena NUNES / MARNITS
Get: Jan Adriaan BOTHA en
Suzanna Orgelina Maria BOTHA / MARNITZ
Jasper EITJESON / AITCHESON
Suzanna Sophia MINNAAR
GEDOOPT 19 ? JAN 1865
532 Helena Catharina geb 26 Nov 1864
Ouders: Paul Stefanus BOTHA
Johanna Catharina BOTHA / VERCEUIL
Get: Johan Frederik Andreas VERCEUIL en
Helena Catharina VERCEUIL / BOTHA
Petrus Christoffel VERCEUIL en
Maria Elizabetha VERCEUIL / OLIVIER
P 97 1865
GEDOOPT DEN 12 DE FEBRUARY
533 Johannis Michiel geb 9 December 1864
Ouders: Johannis Michiel VENTER
Mareina Adriana GEYSER
Get: Jacoba Cornelia GEYSER
Hendrik Jacobus VENTER
Stephanus Martinus VENTER en
Ester Maria VENTER / ROBERTSE
534 Gertruida Cornelia geb 16 Jan 1865
Ouders: Paul Jacobus Frederik ROOS
Maria Elizabetha ROOS / VAN RENSBURG
Get: Johannes Augustinus BREEDT en
Dorothea Magdalena Cornelia BREEDT / COMBRINK
Johannes Lodevicus J VAN RENSBURG en
Cornelia Gertruida V RENSBURG / V EMMENIS
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER / Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3066
Datum: Thursday, January 17, 2008
Daar is 21 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. ds Andrew Murray vir Johann Ahlers From: Paul Bosman
2a. Re: Ogies grafte / Langseekoeigat vir BAREND From: Annemarie van den Doel
3. Bezuidenhout Klipfontein From: Alta Roux
4. [Die Burger Oos-Kaap 16 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
5. [Koerant] Bylae Die Burger O-K 16 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
6. (Koerant) Beeld 16 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
7. Reyneke x Strydom From: bonnie sydow
8. New file uploaded to SAGenealogie From: Hendrik Louw Gmail
9a. Re: Steyn/Bresler - De Jager/ Warnich Familie vanaf 1732 tot v From: David Jamieson
9b. Re: Steyn/Bresler - De Jager/ Warnich Familie vanaf 1732 tot v From: Avida Bresler
10. re MAARTENS vir Johan Brink From: Petrus Schoeman
11a. Re: "Safe" From: Nardus Vodacom
12a. Re: Weereens Pienaar x Pieters - meer info From: Faan Naude, Rietfontein, PRETORIA
13. [SOUTH COAST SUN]14 DEC 2008 From: kerrieborrie
14. [KOERANT]MECURY 2008 28/12 : BOEDELS From: kerrieborrie
15a. 150 Jaar From: Hennie Blomerus
15b. 150 Jaar From: Hennie Blomerus
16. Re: Kay MURRAY x Jimmy VERSTER (vir Paul Bosman) From: Johann Ahlers
17. [Koerant] The Mercury Woensdag 16 Januarie 2008 From: am.quebbemann
18. Thorssell From: Paul du Plessis
19. Zoutpansberg Hervormde dope From: cgviljoen Boodskap 1a. ds Andrew Murray vir Johann Ahlers Posted by: "Paul Bosman" [email protected] paul5016 Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:25 am (PST)
Dagsê Johann
Dankie vir die e-pos.
Die Murray wie se voorsate ek soek is: Kathleen Amalia (Kay) *13 Feb 1921 of 13 Nov 1920 †Jul 2007 x Jacobus Pieter (Jimmy) VERSTER *1 Nov 1910 †1 Sep 1987 Hy was skoolhoof van Rodeon Hoërskool Swartruggens van 1962 tot 1974.
Hoop jy kry haar voorsate opgespoor.
Groetnis Paul D Bosman ------my grootjies: BOSMAN X DE VILLIERS / VERSTER X DE KLERK / FROST X VON BENECKE / SYMINGTON X PIENAAR Ria s'n: BURGER X MOSTERT / MOSTERT X BRAND / KRUGER X VORSTER / KUHN X BREDENHAHN Posbus 1787 Rayton 1001 Tel: 012 802 1009, sel: 082 851 4039, Faks: 0866 581829 of 012 802 1009
Boodskap 2a. Re: Ogies grafte / Langseekoeigat vir BAREND Posted by: "Annemarie van den Doel" [email protected] avddoel2 Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:11 am (PST)
Alta,
Ek het op universiteit met 'n Alberts outjie uitgegaan wat op 'n plaas met die naam Langzeekoegat naby Nigel gebly het. Van sy ooms het ook op plase in die omgewing gewoon met die naam Langzeekoegat.
Ek sien daar is nog 'n JP Alberts wat op Langzeekoegat bly. Dalk kan jy hom skakel by (011)8144034 en hoor of daar 'n begrafplaas daar rond is.
Groete Annemarie van den Doel
Boodskap 3. Bezuidenhout Klipfontein Posted by: "Alta Roux" [email protected] genealogiefreak Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:32 am (PST)
Wynand
Ek het vandag met 'n dame gesels (oor 'n heel ander saak) - haar ma Martha Magdalena Bezuidenhout X Gert Dawid Roux is op die plaas Klipfontein naby ARBOR ('n stasie tussen Kendal en Delmas) gebore - dis nie die Klipfontein naby Ogies nie. Dis Johann de Bruin se Klipfontein. 'Jou' W F Bezuidenhout se grafte bestaan waarskynlik nog op die einste plaas.
Sommer vir die interessantheid - sy is Bessie Stoltz en sy en haar man Jan woon op die plaas Ogiesfontein, vanwaar Ogies sy naam ontleen.
Groete Alta van Kinross
Boodskap 4. [Die Burger Oos-Kaap 16 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:33 am (PST)
Geen berigte in Die Burger O-K Maandag 14 Januarie.
Dankbetuigings ERASMUS-egpaar bedank almal vir bystand tydens afsterwe van hul dogter Rizaan (22 maande). (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 16/01/2008)
Verlowings SCHEEPERS / MAYES, Stephen (Skippie) en Julie. Verlowing 07 Desember 2007. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 16/01/2008)
Sterfgevalle BOTHA, Brendon. Tragies +Maandag 14 Jan 2008. Ouers, broer, suster. Diens Vrydag 18 Jan 2008 11:00 Shalom-Raeha PPK Kerk, Despatch. Verassing privaat. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 16/01/2008) Esmé Groenewald AVBOB Uitenhage 041 922 8066
DU PREEZ, Venita. *18/07/1964. +Woensdag 09 Jan 2008. Kinders, vader, susters, broers. Begrafnisdiens Saterdag 19 Jan 2008 11:00 Vine Ministery, Telkom-gebou, Arcadia. Navrae: 079 525 9904. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 16/01/2008)
FOUCHÉ, Daphné. +Maandag 14 Jan 2008. Roudiens Woensdag 16 Jan 2008 14:00 NG Kerk, Moedergemeente, Noordeinde. Verasing privaat. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 16/01/2008) Alfred Jones AVBOB Port Elizabeth 041 484 2731
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 5. [Koerant] Bylae Die Burger O-K 16 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:51 am (PST)
Berigte by troufotos in Bylae tot Die Burger Maandag 16 Januarie 2008
Simone VAN VUUREN en Duane JORDAAN getroud 30 November in die Baai. Hulle woon nou in Pretoria. Foto: Ingrid MARAIS.
Martyn en Erné LE ROUX getroud 22 September op Modimolle (Nylstroom). Martyn oudste s.v. Jacques en Alet LE ROUX van Somerset-oos en Erné oudste d.v. Jan en Elmarie POTGIETER van Modimolle. Die jong paar woon in George.
Lucille DU PIESANIE en C.P. GERBER is op 1 Desember by The Plantation getroud. Foto: Ian ZAAIMAN.
Tanya STRYDOM d.v. Thesha VAN DER VYVER en Billy STRYDOM, en Johan STEYNBERG s.v. Johan en wyle Carol STEYNBERG getroud op 6 Oktober in Eendrag-gemeente, Despatch. Hulle woon in Oos-Londen.
Iwan GERBER en Anodi SWANEPOEL getroud 28 April NG Moedergemeente, Noordeinde, P.E. Foto: Willem DE LANGE.
Vinette en Anton FOUCHÉ getroud op 19 Mei in die Evangeliese Sentrum, Cotswold. Hulle woon in die Baai.
Geraldine STEYNBERG en Laurie CHAMBERS getroud op 19 Mei. Hulle woon op Wildernis.
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 6. (Koerant) Beeld 16 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:55 am (PST)
HENN; Chris * 18/04/1942 + 16/01/2007. Word nog onthou deur jou verlangende Elize. (Beeld - 16/01/2008)
ROUX; Walter Bethridge * 14/07/1926 + 12/01/2008 om 02:45, Serenitas, Strand, Wes-Kaapprovinsie. Dankdiens: NG Kerk, Wittedrif, Pletterbergbaai, Wes-Kaapprovinsie, 18/01/2008, 15:00. Oorleef deur seuns Stephan, Charles, Walter en Gerhard, twaalf kleinkinders en twee agterkleinkinders. (Beeld - 16/01/2008)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 7. Reyneke x Strydom Posted by: "bonnie sydow" [email protected] Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:13 am (PST)
Hallo Viende
Joseas Johannes REYNEKE x Potchefstroom Hervormde Kerk (nr 163) 15.3.1856 (21 & 30jr) Maria Catharina STRYDOM.
SAG. 9 bls 390 gee e2 Josias Johannes REYNEKE * 25.4.1834 ~ Oos Rietrivier, Somerset Oos 12.4.1835, s.v. Adam Johannes REYNEKE & Hendrina Maria Magdalena vd MERWE. Geen verdere besonderhede verskyn oor hom nie maar sy * gee hom die regte ouderdom.
Vir Maria Catharina STRYDOM * 1826 kan ek glad nie vind nie en sal lede se hulp hier waardeer om te vas te stel
1. Was sy dalk n wed. Strydom? Indien nie, is haar ouers bekend & wat was haar geboortedatum. 2. Besonderhede van kinders gebore uit die huwelik. 3. Bevestiging dat JJ REYNEKE * 25.4.1834 wel die bruidegom was.
Vriendelike groete vanaf Bellville
Andrew (Bonnie) Sydow
Boodskap 8. New file uploaded to SAGenealogie Posted by: "Hendrik Louw Gmail" [email protected] hendrik_louw Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:43 am (PST)
Met dank vanaf Sarel BURGER
Sarel, baie dankie namens die lys ......
Uploaded by : hendrik_louw
You can access the file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SAGenealogie/files/Kerkregisters/Doopregisters/Citrusdal %20%28Sarel%20Burger%29/Doopregister%20NG%20Kerk%20Citrusdal%201916%20 -%201956.xls
Boodskap 9a. Re: Steyn/Bresler - De Jager/ Warnich Familie vanaf 1732 tot v Posted by: "David Jamieson" [email protected] davidkjamieson Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:31 am (PST)
Goeiemiddag Avida,
Ek sluit hiermee meer inligting oor die bo-genoemde familie wat ek vandag vanaf Lynn Couperthwaite vanaf Australia ontvang het en hoop dat dit van verder belang vir jou mag wees.
Baie van my familie is daar ingesluit en sy moet baie tyd en werk daar aangedoen het.
Groete uit 'n koelle Skotland.
David Montrose Angus
Couperthwaite
I have sent copies of all the Death Notices to eGGSA - address: http://www.eGGSA.org/ Go to 'Contents' Download library - then type Bresler into the Search Gallery box Should come up with heaps of info there...... also gravestones.
This will be a lot easier than me sending you all the death notices.
If this helps here are my findings:
BRESLER / STEYN
c3: Johannes Augustus BRESLER born 18 Sep 1816 Spiegelrivier, Riversdale, Cape, christened in Swellendam 17 Nov 1816 and married 15 Feb 1841 Riversdale to Wilhelmina Susanna Jacoba STEYN christened 21 July 1822 daughter of Pieter Gerbrand STEYN and Anna Maria Johanna ACKERMAN. Wilhelmina is a niece of the Hermanus Egbertus STEYN who was the original owner of the farm from which the family sold a portion to start the town Riversdale. Johannes and Wilhelmina had issue: d1: Johannes Augustus BRESLER born 25 Feb 1849 christened 21 Oct 1849 Riversdale, Cape. Wilhelmina Susanna Jacoba is his twin. Married Elsje Sofia Johanna de JAGER . Johannes and Elsje had issue: e1: Johannes Augustus BRESLER born 4 Feb 1882 christened 5 Mar 1882 Riversdale, Cape. d2: Wilhelmina Susanna Jacoba BRESLER born 25 Feb 1849 christened 21 Oct 1849 Riversdale, Cape. Johannes Augustus is her twin. d3: Maria Helena Philippina BRESLER born 20 Jan 1851 christened 5 Aug 1851 Riversdale, Cape – probably died before Mar 1860. d4: Jacoba Elizabeth BRESLER born 11 July 1852 christened 3 Oct 1852 Riversdale, Cape. d5: Christiaan Jacobus BRESLER born 29 Aug 1854 christened 19 Nov 1854 Riversdale, Cape. Married 29 July 1879 in Riversdale, Cape to Stentia Sophia WARNICH born 1 Nov 1858 Heidelberg, Cape. Stentia daughter of Johannes Christiaan WARNICH and Elizabeth Jacoba Francina van WYK Christiaan and Stentia had issue: e1: Hans Jurgen BRESLER born abt 1877 died Boer War 1900 was in Windburg Commando e2: Christiaan BRESLER (Krisjan) married Florence NN Christiaan and Flornce had issue: f1: George BRESLER f2: Gavin BRESLER f3: NN BRESLER (son) e3: Elizabeth Jacoba Francina BRESLER born 12 Aug 1880 christened 26 Dec 1880 Riversdale, Cape. Witnesses to the christening were her maternal grandparents Johannes Christiaan Warnick and Elizabeth Jacoba van Wyk e4: Johannes Augustus BRESLER (Jannie) born 25 Apr 1882 Riversdale, Cape Farmed on the farm Tiervlei in the Riversdale district. e5: Wilhelmina Susanna Jacoba BRESLER born 17 Sept 1884 Riversdale, Cape. Married Nn VALENTINE Had twin daughters f1: Madeline VALENTINE f2: NN VALENTINE e6: Anna Maria Johanna BRESLER born 18 Feb 1889 Riversdale, Cape. Married NN de JAGER. Had only one child: f1: Harriet de JAGER e7: Isabella BRESLER cared for Jacobus after their mother died. Married three times the last one NN WOLHUTER e8: Jacobus Martinus BRESLER born 28 Apr 1903 Riversdale - died Glencoe. Married 1928 in the Groote Kerk in Cape Town to Elizabeth Johanna van WYK born 11 Oct 1908 Sutherland, Cape – died 22 Feb 1971 Ladysmith, Natal Jacobus and Elizabeth had issue: f1: Christiaan BRESLER married Martie NN – divorced. Martie remarried and had the childrens names changed by deed poll to her new husbands name. Christiaan and Martie had issue: g1: Jacobus Martinus BRESLER g2: Christiaan BRESLER f2: Jacobus Martinus BRESLER born Apr 1925. Married Babs NN. Divorced g1: Suretha BRESLER married but husband died in a car accident. She remarried and has 2 children – no names g2: Lorinda BRESLER married NN McGREGOR – 2 children f3: Stephanus Petrus BRESLER born Aug 1926 – died 3 July 1994. Married 7 Nov 1970 to Elsa du TOIT born ? Adopted a son: g1: Martin BRESLER f4: Johanna Christina BRESLER born 13 Jan 1930 - died July 2005. Married Berrie de LANGE born 29 Apr 1922 – died 23 May 1985. Johanna and Berrie had issue: g1: Elizabeth Catharina de LANGE born 3 Jan 1957 m Jacobus Albertus de WET – Divorced. h1: Pieter de WET g2: Judith de LANGE born 22 Apr 1959 married Joshua v DYK h1: Johanna Christina van DYK h2: Josh van DYK g3: Christina de LANGE born 23 May 1963 g4: Berrie de LANGE born 25 Apr 1967 married Magda NN h1: Berrie van DYK f5: Johannes BRESLER born 28 Nov 1941 – died Nov 2004. Never married. f6: Stencia BRESLER born 23 Oct 1943 Married 3 Oct to Johannes ESTERHUIZEN. Stencia and Johannes had issue: g1: Janine ESTERHUIZEN born 10 Dec 1977 m Deon NN - Divorced. Janine and Deon had issue: h1: Hein NN h2: Jané NN Janine remarried Peet JOUBERT Janine and Peet had issue: h3: Zander JOUBERT g2: Johannes ESTERHUIZEN b1 Dec 1972 g3: Stencia ESTERHUIZEN f7: Cornelius BRESLER (Corrie) born 24 Apr 1947 Ladysmith, Natal. Married 5 Sept 1969 to Magdalena Elizabeth DANNHAUSER born 6 June 1949 – died 1 Aug 2003 Corrie and Magdalena had issue: g1: Riaan BRESLER born 3 Oct 1973 Florida, Transvaal. Married 27 Mar 1997 to Sheryl Wendy PROMNITZ born 11 July Riaan and Sheryl have issue: h1: Jeunesse Clair BRESLER born 21 Aug 1997 f8: Wilhelm Paulus BRESLER born 20 Dec 1948. Involved with a girl from Israel. Left RSA in 1976 – no contact since. d6: Hermanus Jacobus Egtbertus BRESLER born 7 Mar 1858 christened 27 June 1858 Riversdale, Cape. d7: Maria Helena Philippina BRESLER born 2 Mar 1860 christened 6 May 1860 Riversdale, Cape. d8: Christina Magdalena BRESLER born 6 Nov 1863 christened 25 Dec 1863 Riversdale, Cape.
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c5: Frans Rynhard BRESLER born 17 Nov 1820 christened in Swellendam 20 Dec1820 – died abt 1896. Married 28 Aug 1847 to Maria Helena Phillipina STEYN born 13 May 1829 fifth child of Pieter Gerbrand STEYN and Anna Maria Johanna ACKERMAN. Frans and Maria had issue: d1: Anna Maria Helena BRESLER born 29 June 1848 christened 6 Aug 1848 Riversdale, Cape d2: Isabella Hermina BRESLER born 11 May 1850 christened 7 July 1850 Riverdsale, Cape Married abt 1870 in Riversdale to Mattheus Ferdinand KLEYNHANS (IGI) d3: Casparus BRESLER born 5 Mar 1852 christened 25 Apr 1852 Riversdale, Cape – died 3 March 1930 at home Nortinview farm, Pretoria district, Tvl. First married to Anna Elizabeth Maria van WYK – died 26 June 1918 in Tvl. Casparus second marriage at the Nederduitse Kerk, Elofsdal was to Geziena de BEER widow of Nicolaas JB de BEER. Casparus was a labourer on the farm Noutinview in the Pretoria district Casparus and Anna had issue: e1: Wilhelmina Susanna Jacoba BRESLER born 4 Sept 1874 – died 1947 OFS (IGI info) married Andries Stephanus Du PLESSIS died 1935 e2: Barend Gerhardus BRESLER e3: Casparus Johannes Rynhardt BRESLER born 1879 Riversdale, Cape – died 10 Sept 1951 of a coronary thrombosis with chronic bronchitis, at home 555 Jacob St, Gezina, Pretoria and is buried in the new cemetery in Pretoria. Casparus occupation at the time of his death is shown as ‘ploegbaas’ working for the Stadsraad van Pretoria. He had been pensioned by the mines on a phthysis pension (tering). Married in Pretoria to Johanna Elizabeth Prinsloo. Casparus and Johanna had issue: f1: Hester Sophia Elizabeth BRESLER f2: Anna Elizabeth Maria BRESLER f3: Johanna Elizabeth BRESLER f4: Johannes Augustus BRESLER f5: Elizabeth Johanna BRESLER f6: Barend Gerhardus BRESLER e4: Maria Helena Philippina BRESLER born 3 July 1881 christened 16 Nov 1881 Riversdale, Cape. Not mentioned on her father’s death notice e5: Dina Elizabeth M BRESLER e6: Pieter Benjamin BRESLER born 1 Dec 1886 in Riversdale, Cape – died 25 Jan 1969 Pretoria, Tvl. Married in Hopetown, Cape to Johanna Christina Nn. Pieter was a SAR pensioner at the time of his death and his address is shown as Broederstroom, in the Pretoria District, Tvl Pieter and Johanna had issue: f1: Casparus Johannes Reinhardt BRESLER f2: Charles Henry John BRESLER f3: Maria Magdalena BRESLER married Nn LOOTS e7: Stoffelina Catharina Elizabeth BRESLER born abt 1868 Cape – died 8 June 1896 at home on farm in Winburg, Free State. Stoffelina married Andries Johannes Stephanus van Wyk and they farmed on Rietfontein in the Winburg District. Stoffelina and Johannes had issue: f1: Anna Maria Elizabeth van WYK d4: Maria Helena Philippina BRESLER born 19 Mar 1854 christened 18 Jun 1854 Riversdale, Cape. d5: Pieter Gerbrand BRESLER born 19 Sept 1856 christened 28 Dec 1856 Riversdale, Cape. Married Cornelia Magdalena van ZYL Pieter and Cornelia had issue: e1: Frans Rynhard BRESLER born 30 July 1878 christened 17 Nov 1878 Riversdale, Cape. His Grandparents Frans Rynhard Bresler and Maria Helena Philippina Steyn were witnesses at his baptism. In 1918 Frans was living in Parow. e2: Maria BRESLER married Nn van NIEKERK in 1918 they were living in Parow. e3: Johanna BRESLER married Nn PIENAAR in 1918 they were living in Parow. e4: Cornelia Magdalena BRESLER (Maria) born abt 1885 married abt 1903 Arend Frederik Petrus CARSTENS born 12 July 1884 Swartland, Cape, South Africa. In 1918 they were living in Parow. Cornelia and AFP had issue: f1: Pieter Gerbrand Bresler CARSTENS f2: Dinah E F CARSTENS born 11 Nov 1919 in Parow,CP,S Africa. She married in Observatory, Cape Town to Ronald Truter ASPELING born on 5 Nov 1915 in Beaufort West - died on 31 Aug 1975 in Milnerton, Cape Town. Ronal was the son of John Gustaaf ASPELING "Johnnie" born 28 Feb 1879 - died abt 1946 and Mildred Henrietta GILLMAN born 20 Aug 1869 in Springbok - died 20 Apr 1928,Beaufort W Dinah and Ronald had issue: g1: Lynette Mildred ASPELING was born on 6 Apr 1944 g2: Barbara Maria ASPELING was born on 18 Mar 1953. e5: Jacobus Bresler in 1918 they were living in Woodstock. e6: Isabella BRESLER married NN Slabber in 1918 they were living in Worcester. e7: Jacoba BRESLER married NN Slabber in 1918 they were living in Parow. e8: Annie BRESLER in 1918 they were living in Worcester. e9: Pieter Gerbrand BRESLER born abt 1897 – died 12 Oct 1918 at his parent’s home at 43 Burns Rd, Salt River. Pieter occupation is shown as a Lite Checker(?) He never married. d6: Wilhelmina Susanna Jacoba BRESLER born 21 Dec 1858 christened 27 Feb 1859 Riversdale, Cape d7: Jacoba Elizabeth BRESLER born 4 Dec 1860 christened 27 Jan 1861 Riversdale,Cape – probably died before Apr 1862 d8: Jacoba Elizabeth BRESLER born 4 Apr 1862 christened 4 May 1862 Riversdale, Cape d8.5: Anna Maria Helena BRESLER born 4 Dec 1863 – died 1 Apr 1939. Married three times. Last married Nn BYRNE (Chris du TOIT grandparents – Chris only has this info on hearsay…might not be correct) d9: Anna Johanna BRESLER born 4 Nov 1864 christened 7 May 1865 Riversdale, Cape d10: Christina Magdalena BRESLER born 19 May 1868 christened 19 July 1868 Riversdale, Cape d11: Elizabeth Johanna BRESLER born 4 May 1871 christened 10 Sept 1871 Riversdale, Cape c3 and c5 were sons of :
b3: Casparus BRESLER (a1, b3) christened 26 Dec 1764, citizen (burgher) of Cape Town - Second married in NGK, Caledon on 2 Jan 1814 (another source has 9 Jan 1810) to Isabella Hermina de JAGER christened 12 April 1789 – died 1853. Isabella was the seventh child and daughter of Christiaan de JAGER and Jacoba Elizabeth du Preez from Stellenbosch.
Casparus was the son of the founding father: a1: Johannes BRESLER born abt 1732 from Kassel-Hesse, Germany (Prussia) arrived in the Cape 1752 and was in the service of Dutch East Indian Company as a carpenter. He started work on the new organ of the “Groote Kerk”, Cape Town. Then became a constable from 1758 to 1761, and later was in the service of the fire brigade. In 1761 he was registered as an explosive expert. Quote Dictionary of Familiers volumes 1-5: “Johannes was a German organ-maker from Hessen-Kassel who arrived in Cape Town in 1752 and, consecutively, was soldier, carpenter, constable and 'pyrotechnist extraordinary” He died 13 Oct 1773 in Cape Town. In letters found in the archives Johannes is refered to as “Extraordinary Lieutenant of Artillery” In 1768 the slave Catrijn Sangolanhij has an expiration of apprenticeship – Johannes was her registered master. Johannes applied to free one of the Company’s slaves, a little boy named Abel, the son of Catrijn Sangolanij of the Cape, about 6 years old. He wished to take the boy unto himself, and when baptized, give it an honest and Christian education. Offered f100, Indian valuation, for the child. Johannes married 13 Sept 1761 in Cape Town to Sara Dreyer christened 22 Aug 1723 in Cape Town. Sara was the daughter of Johannes Augustus Dreyer (also known as Isaac Daique) born 1668 Grube in Holstein, Germany and Sara van wyk (see notes at end). Sara turned to her youngest son Frans to assist her with financial matters after the death of Johannes. Sara gave Frans special power of attorney to act on her behalf. He assisted with the sale of her home in Boom Street, Cape Town in 1800. Johannes and Sara had issue: b1: Johannes Augustus BRESLER christened 8 Aug 1762 in Cape Town b2: Sara Christina BRESLER christened 27 Nov 1763 b3: Casparus BRESLER christened 26 Dec 1764, citizen (burgher) of Cape Town b4: Frans Reynhard BRESLER born 21 June 1766 in Cape Town
I don't have anything on a BRESLER/BURGER connection.....love to know more.
I'm very interested an anything you can add to what I have.
Thanks a million for contacting me...... are you related to the BRESLERs...... can you tell me more.
Oh! Green print.....unconfirmed info.....gut feel had me put there.
Regards Lynn Boodskap 9b. Re: Steyn/Bresler - De Jager/ Warnich Familie vanaf 1732 tot v Posted by: "Avida Bresler" [email protected] avidabresler Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:16 am (PST)
Sjoe David
Baie dankie!
Daar het verseker baie werk ingegaan. Ek sal ook kyk na die grafstene en SK's waarvan sy praat.
Groete Avida
Boodskap 10. re MAARTENS vir Johan Brink Posted by: "Petrus Schoeman" [email protected] petrusschoeman Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:42 am (PST)
Hallo Johan,
My MAARTENS databasis is nog maar yl. Ek het ons manlike lyn terug tot by die stamvader nagevors, soek nog 'n bevestiging hier en daar.
My data oor die meer noordelike gesinne is nog effe dun, jammer ek kan jou nog nie met jou navraag help nie.
Erik Kriel is besig om my 'n kieserslys te voer en ek is nog hard besig om die lys te verwerk en kiesers wat by dieselfde adres woon te identifiseer.
'n Kieserslys gee mens minstens die korrekte name en geboorte datums en die uitdaging is om koppelinge te vind.
Ek het intussen ook kennis gemaak met 'n navorser in Natal en die toekoms sal bepaal van hoeveel hulp ons vir mekaar kan wees.
Groete Petrus van Majuba
Boodskap 11a. Re: "Safe" Posted by: "Nardus Vodacom" [email protected] Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:02 am (PST)
Aan almal wie deelneem aan “koelkas” gesprek,
My ouma het in die koue Belfast gebly en `n plek waarvoor ons baie respek gehad was ouma se koelkas, let wel, vir ons wie van `n groot dorp af gekom het (Klerksdorp), was hierdie koelkas iets uit `n ander wêreld. Die kas het tussen twee dennebome gestaan wat baie na aan mekaar op haar sypaadjie gestaan by haar tuinhekkie, baie naby aan die pad. Die kas het bestaan uit `n houtraam met ogiesdraad en fyn gaas met antresiet tussen in.Die hout was groen geverf. Water is van bo af daaroor laat loop en dit het gewerk soos `n “Radiator”. Die feit dat dit tussen die groot dennebome gestaan het, het natuurlik bygedra dat dit baie goed gefunksioneer het.
Die wonder van die hele kas was dat ek nooit gehoor het dat ouma kla dat iemand ooit iets uit haar koelkas gesteel het nie. Sy het wel die kas met `n baie klein slotjie toegesluit. Die slotjie was egter so` klein dat jy dit omtrent met die hand kon breek. Met elke etenstyd het ouma uitgestap na die koelkas op die sypaadjie om die lekker kos te gaan uithaal wat ons dan weldra sou eet.
Ek het baie hartseer gevoel toe ek eendag weer by ouma kom en sien dat die kas se deur oopstaan en dat dit leeg was. Ouma het ook “with - it” geraak en `n “General Electric” yskas gekry met die groot bak onder wat kon oopswaai. – en daarna was ouma se huis nooit weer dieselfde nie.
Groete
Nardus
Boodskap 12a. Re: Weereens Pienaar x Pieters - meer info Posted by: "Faan Naude, Rietfontein, PRETORIA" [email protected] Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:30 am (PST)
Hallo Alta
Ongelukkig kom hy nie in die tweede uitgawe van die Pienaar-boek voor nie. Ek het ook vir Emmerentia van Rensburg gevra om in die Indeks van Dope in NG-Gemeentes in die Kaapkolonie tussen 1858 en 1898 te kyk, en hy is ook nie daarin nie. Hy is dus heel waarskynlik nie in die Kaapkolonie gebore nie.
Beyers NAUDÉ se ma was Adriana Johanna Zondach VAN HUYSSTEEN. Haar pa was Matthys Petrus VAN HUYSSTEEN en dit kon gewees het dat Pienaar en sy neef en niggie was. Ek het ongelukkig te min inligting daaroor.
Jammer
Faan
Boodskap 13. [SOUTH COAST SUN]14 DEC 2008 Posted by: "kerrieborrie" [email protected] kerrieborrie Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:33 am (PST)
Michael and Natassia English het getrou op Winkelspruit Strand. Herron Samantha x McPhall Craig in Drakensberg Lyall Megan x Clinton Johnathan in Illovo Africa Lodge
VERLOOF HEATH Melissa met Zeller Shaun
Daar was ook ´n artikel oor Auther Reece. groete Elizabeth
Boodskap 14. [KOERANT]MECURY 2008 28/12 : BOEDELS Posted by: "kerrieborrie" [email protected] kerrieborrie Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:33 am (PST)
BRUWER Hilary *1919 20/02 +2006 02/03 4122 East 6th Street, Tuscon, Arizona, USA 85711-1918
ASHLINGTON Peter Dudley *1945 18/9 +2007 2/11 66 Esselmont Avenue Berea
FENNER Dennis Gordon *1930 09/03 +2007 5/11 7 Allenby Gardens, Umbilo, Durban 4001
King Norah Janet *1919 18/11 +2007 14/07 Ridgewood Frail Care Centre, Mt Edgecombe, Umhlanga
Groete Elizabeth
Boodskap 15a. 150 Jaar Posted by: "Hennie Blomerus" [email protected] hwblomerus Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:08 pm (PST)
Hallo Almal,
Die NG Kerk Kroonstad (Moedergemeente) vier gedurende die naweek van 12 Oktober 2008 die 150 jarige bestaan van die kerk. Persone met verbintenisse en belangstellendes is baie welkom. Indien u oor enige inligting,fotos,ens. beskik hoor ons graag daarvan aangesien ons n feesbrosjure saamstel.Kontak besonderhede:
Hennie Blomerus Posbus 7069 Kroonstad 9502. Tel/faks 056-2127067 sel- 082-5764594 e-pos [email protected].
Groete. Hennie Blomerus
Boodskap 15b. 150 Jaar Posted by: "Hennie Blomerus" [email protected] hwblomerus Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:08 pm (PST)
Hallo Almal,
Die NG Kerk Kroonstad (Moedergemeente) vier gedurende die naweek van 12 Oktober 2008 die 150 jarige bestaan van die kerk.Persone met verbintenisse en belangstellendes is baie welkom. Indien u oor enige inligting,fotos,ens. beskik hoor ons graag daarvan aangesien ons n feesbrosjure saamstel.Kontak besonderhede:
Hennie Blomerus Posbus 7069 Kroonstad 9502. Tel/faks 056-2127067 sel- 082-5764594 e-pos [email protected]. Groete. Hennie Blomerus
Boodskap 16. Re: Kay MURRAY x Jimmy VERSTER (vir Paul Bosman) Posted by: "Johann Ahlers" [email protected] jahlers1 Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:04 pm (PST)
Goeienaand Paul,
Het haar opgespoor! Hierdie kom uit die boekie "Murray Stamregister 1794-1954" van Emma Horn wat in Jan 1956 gepubliseer is. a MURRAY Andrew *26.05.1794 +24.06.1866, predikant te Graaff-Reinet (1822-1864) x Kaapstad 1825 STEGMANN Maria Susanna *5.03.1809 +08.1889 b5 MURRAY Charles *26.02.1833 +23.09.1904, predikant te Clanwilliam (1858-1864), inspekteur van NG sendingstasies (1864-1866), predikant te Graaff-Reinet (1866-1904) x 1861 BAILIE Amelia Jane *31.05.1844 +14.04.1914 c14 MURRAY Ion Bailie *30.09.1889 +20.03.1942, inspekteur van skole x 21.12.1915 GELDENHUYS Regina Catrina Justina *29.11.1893 d1 MURRAY Kathleen Amelia *13.11.1920 x 30.09.1944 VERSTER Jacobus Pieter *1.11.1910, skoolhoof Wakkerstroom, Tvl e1 VERSTER Murray Gordon *15.06.1946 e2 VERSTER Jacques Pieter * 20.04.1949 e3 VERSTER Kathleen Justine *23.01.1953
Vriendelike groete, Johann Ahlers Pretoria
Boodskap 17. [Koerant] The Mercury Woensdag 16 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "am.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:44 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:- " It is better to light a candle than curse the darkness." - Chinese Proverb.
GEBOORTES:- CROPPER Andrea 'n dogter Coco Jane. Sussie vir Julia.
EAST Gavin & Jayshree 'n seun Daniel William * 9/01/2008 in Umhlanga Hospitaal . Boetie vir Michael en Joshua. Kleinkind vir Eileen EAST.
FERRARI Alessandro & Maria Laura 'n seun Ramo Enrico * 14/01/2008 in Johannesburg . Kleinkind vir Enrico.
VERLOWING:- CAMERON Don & Lynne se dogter Shauna aan Greg, seun van Kathy & Noel SIMPSON.
ZINGOL ~ LOBEL Vivienne & Alex se jonger dogter Lee aan Barry, jonger seun van Raphael & Jenny in London.
DOOD:- ALBERS Elizabeth(Betty) Julia + 11/01/2008 . Ma van Glenn, Geraldine, Duncan en Karl. en ouma.; Ma van Allan, Louise en Robin.
ALDERTON Peter . Memorial by Umhlali Methodiste Kerk op 18/01/2008 om 2nm.
BARRY Peggy + 15/01/2008 x + Peter. Ma van Sandy, Mark, Ann, Mel, Ed,Isora en Jenny. Ouma van Justin, Andrew, Byron , Jono, Guy, Megan ,Matthew ,Katie en Richard. Begrafnis by St John's Lutheran Lilienthal, Fawnleas op 18/01/2008 om 11vm. Ingesitrt deur OAKLEIGH PMB. 0333426116.
BOURNES-HARPER Eileen Hazel .Memorial by St Mary's Anglikaanse Kerk PMB 17/01/2008 om 10.30 vm.
DE VILLIERS Roy Derek. Pa van Leon, Nova x Andrew Snr. Oupa van Andrew Jnr, Gareth, Clyde, Tarryn en Candice. Begrafnis by DOVES Greyville 17/01/2008 om 12 nm. Daarna na Stellawood Begraafplaas. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
DRYSDALE Maureen. + 10/01/2008. Sal gemis Harry en familie.. Begrafnis op 18/01/2008 by Stellawood Kapel om 12 middag.
DURWARD nee MUNRO Michelle Hazel + 14/01/2008 . Aan Chris en Kayla simpatie van Clive, Terry, Hayden en Caitlyn. Ook van Ma ,Ervin en Marion. Begrafnis by DOVES Greyville op 18/01/2008 om 15h00 nm.Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
FINNEGAN Tom van Benoni. Requiem Mass by St Patrick's Katolieke Kerk Benoni op 18/01/2008 om 11 vm. Verassing privaat. THOM KNIGHT & CO 0118375531.
HORNER Derek . Pa van Dezi, Ashleigh. Oupa van Kieren, Jody, Liam-James; Michaell-Yolanda. Oupa van Robert .;Trevor -Tracy en oupa van Anthony, Ainsly en Tammy. Memorial by Christ Church Pinetown op 18/01/2008 om 3nm.
KNOX Arthur Derek + 12/01/2008. Begrafnis by Pineville Junction Pinetown op 18/01/2008 om 11vm. Verassing privaat. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
LOGAN Patrick Basil x Rosemary. Pa van Nolan en Merise. Skoonpa van Amanda en Morne. Oupa van Cuan. Broer en swaer. Begrafnis by Souls Outreach Sydenham op 17/01/2008 om 12.30 nm. Daarna na Stellawood Begraafplaas.
ARNOLD STEWART MAVUMA van 86 Glenmore + 2/01/2008 Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
McALISTER Sheila Martha + 10/01/2008 Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
MEADE Eileen May 18/04/1914 ------11/01/2008 (93) x +Jimmy. Ma van Pauline en Laurence, Barbara en Colin .Ouma en oumagroot. Requiem Mass by The Holy Trinity Catholic Church op 17/01/2008 om 11vm. Ingesit deur Doves.0860025500.
MONTOCCHIO Raymond (Monty) 20/06/1937-----1301/2008. Man ,pa en oupa. Van Dorothy, Marc, Bridgette, Bryce, Dominic, Desmond, Jenny ,Sheldon en Emma.
RAW nee HERISSON Marie Terese Flora. Ma van Katherine en Susan. Skoonma van Philip en ouma van Michael, Gareth, Simone, Claire en Grace. Begrafnis by St Josephs Catholic Church op 16/01/2008 om 3nm. Word by Westville Begraafplaas begrawe.
RILEY Daryl.. Pa van Jarrid, Darren en Sarah. Simpatie ook aan Jarrid, Darren, Sarah,Paul en RILEY familie van die ROY familie.
ROERING Tom x Dorothy. Pa van Wade, Leigh, Mark , Glen, Dorette en Suzette .Ook oupa. Begrafnis by St Winifreds Methodiste Kerk Warner Beach op 18/01/2008 om 11vm. Ingesit deur SHANLEY'S 0312057644.
ROYEPPEN Ivan Joseph 23/04/1939 ---15/01/ 2008 . Seun van + Joseph & Natalie ROYEPPEN. Broer van Lynette SEETHAL en + Eric ROYEPPEN. Pa van Beverley en oupa van Alisha, Noland en Nicola. Begrafnis by Methodiste Kerk Lorne Str 17/01/2008 om 2nm. Daarna na Stellawood begraafplaas.
SHAW Poppie + Kaapstad. Simpatie aan Don, Melissa en Rita.Liefde van Ivan, Heather, Colin, Clair, Eric, Jessica, Seth en Riley.
TILLIM Anthony Frank + 8/01/2008 in Johannesburg. Viering van sy lewe by Berea Rovers Cricket CDlub ,73 Jackson Drive ,Morningside om 6nm. op die 19/01/2008.
MEMORIAM:-EDWARD Joseph . Onthou deur Mary & Joseph.
FOURIE Jad 06/12/1968 ---15/01/1994.Onthou deur ouers en broer.
HAWLEY John 15/10/1929------16/01/2005. x Sheila .
METH -DEVOS Raymond Pa en Oupa. 8 jaar dood nou.Van METH en LEVERTON familie.
METH-DEVOS Yvonne Tannie en Ma .4 maande dood nou. Van die METH en LEVERTON families.
RAYNER Dorothy .5 jaar dood nou. Onthou deur Barbara en Shirley
TURNER Elaine . 2 jaar dood nou. Ma van Des en Graham.
VERNON RIPPON . Memorial Bench word toegewei in Durban Botaniese Tuine by die Bromeliad Garden in herinnering van Vernon op 18/01/2008 om 15h00 Vir meer inligting kontak Sheila by 031-7021950.
Gegroet uit Durban waar dit vroeer gereen het en nou net nat is. Rita Quebbemann
Boodskap 18. Thorssell Posted by: "Paul du Plessis" [email protected] pauldupl Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:20 pm (PST)
Ek het die Begrafnisbrief van Roselt Bernhardotte Thorssell 16/04/1929-11/01/2008. Indien iemand belang stel sal ek 'n afskrif vir u privaat aanstuur.
Vriendelike groete
Paul du Plessis Dr. PJSG du Plessis BIRCHLEIGH Tel: 011 391-7293 Faks: 088 011 391-7293
Boodskap 19. Zoutpansberg Hervormde dope Posted by: "cgviljoen" [email protected] frost_clan Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:57 pm (PST)
Beste Marí
Baie dankie vir jou moeite. Ek het by gister se lot ‘n Maré gekry wat ek nog nie kan plaas nie, maar hy’s daar! Dankie.
Groete Susan
Susan Viljoen Alberton, South Africa/Suid-Afrika Licensed Scrap-ther-a-P™ Memory Healing Practitioner Licence no 11/010/16
Datum: Friday, January 18, 2008
Daar is 19 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Ploegbaas SAS&H From: Johan Pottas
1b. Re: Ploegbaas SAS&H From: Louis Hurn
1c. PLOEGBAAS SAS&H From: Richard Y Ford
2.1. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
2.2. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
3. WEET NIE OF EK NAALD IN HOOIMIED SOEK NIE From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
4. Kroonstad 150 From: MJS Jordaan, navorsing
5. BESTBIERS From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
6. Fw: New file uploaded to SAGenealogie From: Hendrik Louw Gmail
7.1. New file uploaded to SAGenealogie From: [email protected]
8. BESTBIER FAMILIE From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
9. RSC Dokumente. From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
10a. Begrafnisbriewe From: Fanie Blignaut
11. (Koerant) Beeld 17 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
12. Re: Ploegbaas SAS&H & MOTOR MAN From: barkerma barker
13. Re: [BP] Ploegbaas SAS&H From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
14. Lysreels/lysetiket From: Andrew Kok
15. S A S & H TERMINOLOGIE From: Johan van Breda
16. Withfield From: martie2801 Boodskap 1a. Ploegbaas SAS&H Posted by: "Johan Pottas" [email protected] pottasjj Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:56 am (PST)
Dag Almal
Ek wil graag by ons ouer lyslede hoor presies wat die werk van 'n ploegbaas in die SA&H van vroeer behels het. Ek weet dat hy 'n tipe voorman was wat meeste van die tyd gestasioneer was by van die kleiner treinhaltes en seker ook in die groter sentra.
Maar wat presies was sy span se werk?
Groete
Johan J Pottas Rekensentrum UV Tel: +27-51-401-2767 werk Tel: +27-51-522-7329 huis Tel: +27-82-569-3727 sel Faks: +27-51-401-2765 werk Posbus 34559, Faunasig, 9325
Boodskap 1b. Re: Ploegbaas SAS&H Posted by: "Louis Hurn" [email protected] ljhurn Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:10 am (PST)
Hi Johan,
'n Ploegbaas was soos 'n voorman oor 'n groep arbeiders, spesifiek die wat aan die spoorlyn werk gedoen het. Sy pligte was onder andere om toe te sien dat die spoorlyn veilig was nadat enige werk daaraan gedoen was soos 'n stuk inlas, 'n gebreekte kroon uitsny en weer inlas, gebreekte dwarsleers vervang ens.
Groete uit 'n oortrokke Durban.
Louis Hurn
Boodskap 1c. PLOEGBAAS SAS&H Posted by: "Richard Y Ford" [email protected] fennsoak28 Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:53 pm (PST)
Hallo Johan.
Ek kwalifiseer sekerlik as "een van ons ouer lede".
Luidens die Woordeboek van die Afrikaanse Taal, Deel XII, is 'n ploegbaas 'n "voorman wat toesig hou oor 'n werkspan, veral 'n span wat spoorlyne in stand hou".
Groetnis...
Richard Y Ford
PO Box 794 Randpark Ridge 2156
Tel 011-791-5058
Fax 086-515-8128
Cell 073-250-6208
Boodskap 2.1. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:41 am (PST)
535 Douw Gerbrand geb 27 Dec 1864
Ouders: Hermanus Jacobus GROBLER
Martha Sofeia GROBLER / JAKOBS
Get: Neeltje Christina GROBLER
Douw Gerrit GROBLER en
Jacoba Hendrina ELOF
P 98 1865
536 Susanna Catharina geb 1 Feb 1865
Ouders: Andries Wilhelmus Arnoldus DUVENAGE
Susanna Catharina DUVENAGE / ROETS
Get: Martinus Johannes Christoffel ROETS
Johannes Christoffel ROETS en
Elsje ROETS / GROBLER
537 Henry geb 31 Dec 1864
Oud: Jasper AITCHISON
Susanna Sofia AITCHISON / MINNAAR
Get: Diedlof MARé en
Johanna Elizabetha MARé / KRUGER
Nicolaas JANSE VAN RENSBURG en
Maria Magdalena J V RENSBURG / AITCHISON
Aletta Hans MEYER / MARé
GEDOOPT 26 FEBRUARY 1865
538 Frans Johannis geb 25 Jan 1865
Oud: David Schalk VAN WYK (later ingevoeg VAN DYK )
Petronella Johanna VENTER
Get: Frans Johannis Elof VAN DYK en
Neeltje Maria Margaretha KRUGER
Jacobus Daniel VENTER en
Anna Sofya KOTZE ?
P 99 1865
539 Judith Johanna Suzanna geb 21 Dec 1864
Oud: Adriaan Jacobus MARAIS
Judith Johanna Suzanna MARAIS / SMIT
Get: James Edward MOULDER en
Jacoba Johanna Willemina MOULDER / MARAIS
Salomon Johannes MARAIS en
Christina MARAIS
GEDOOPT OP DEN 19 MAART 1865
540 Maria Johanna geb 3 Jan 1865
Oud: Johannes Arnoldus BREEDT
Gerharda Helena BREEDT / VAN WYK
Get: Jacobus Hendrik DUVENAGE en
Helena Gertruida DEVENAGE / JAKOBS
Johannes Hendrik VAN WYK en
Margaretha Hendrina Cecilia VAN WYK / DUVENAGE
541 Nicolaas Jacobus Johannes geb 19 Feb 1865
Oud: Douw Gerbrand GROBLER
Jacoba Hendrina GROBLER / ELOF
Get: Jan Augustinus BREEDT en
Dorothea Magdalena Cornelia BREEDT / COMBRINK
Petrus Johannis ELOF
Hermanus Jacobus GROBLER
Sofya GROBLER / JAKOBS
542 Michiel Christiaan geb 7 Jan 1865
Oud: Willem Jacobus PELTZER
Margaritha Alida ? PELTZER / JAKOBS
Get: Jacobus Hendrik DUVENAGE en
Helena Gertruida DUVENAGE / JVR ?
Willem ...... ? STEIN
Martha maria .... PELTZER
P 100 1865
543 Christoffel Cornelis geb 29 Juny 1863
Ouders: Johannes Jacobus MEINHART
Alida Aletta MEINHART / DU PLOY
Get: Gerardus François MEINHART en
Margrieta MEINHART / DE BEER
Alewyn Petrus BOTHA en
Emmerencie Adriana BOTHA / GEYSER
544 Anna Catharina geb 15 January 1864 (wonder of dit nie 1865 moet wees nie ?? )
Ouders: Johannes Jacobus MEINHART
Alida Aletta MEINHART / DU PLOY
Get: Petrus Casparus SNYDERS en
Jacoba Maria Petronella SNYDERS / JONKER
Hendrik Leendert Lombard DU PLOY en
Maria DU PLOY / BOTHA
545 Adriana Sofeia geb 9 January 1865
Ouders: Jakob VAN DER WESTHUYSEN
Helena Magdalena VANDER WESTHUYSEN / DE BEER
Get: Petrus Casparus SNYDERS en
Jacoba Maria Petronella SNYDERS / JONKER
Petrus Jacobus VAN DER WESHUYSEN en
Johanna Cornelia VAN DER WESHUYSEN / BOTHA
P 101 1865
GEDOOPT OP DEN 2 APRIL 1865
546 Petrus Cornelis Jacobus geb 23 Mei 1863
Ouders: Petrus Cornelis Jacobus WEEBER
Susara Frederika WEEBER / BOTHA
Get: Jan BOTHA – Paul zoon
William Ather KINNEAR en
Anna KINNEAR / GOUS
Jan WEEBER
547 Berendina Fredrika Jacoba geb 13 July 1864
Ouders: Frederik Jacobus BOTHA
Aletta Catharina BOTHA / LE GRANGE
Get: Johannes Petrus ROETS en
Martha Aletta Jacoba ROETS / DIPPENAAR
Johannes Cornelis BEZUIDENHOUT en
Elisabetha Magdalena BEZUIDENHOUT / VENTER
548 Adriaan Johannes geb 26 November 1863
Ouders: Mattheus Jacobus VAN DER WESTHUYZEN
Johanna Maria VAN DER WESTHUYZEN / DE LANGE
Get: Johannes Christoffel BOTHA en
Maria Catharina Cornelia Magdalena BOTHA / NEL
Frederik Jacobus BOTHA en
Aletta Catharina BOTHA / DE LANGE
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 2.2. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:43 am (PST)
P 102 1865
549 Catharina Susanna geb 29 Jan 1865
Ouders: Barend Jacobus VORSTER
Alida Suzanna Margaretha VORSTER / BOTHA
Get: Pieter Daniel DU PREZ en
Gertruida Aletta Maria DE PREZ / BOTHA
Georg Frederik SNYMAN en
Magdalena Willemina Catharina SNYMAN / BOTHA
550 Catharina Pieternella geb 3 Feb 1865
Ouders: Roelof Cornelis Jacobus BEZUIDENHOUT
Johanna Jacomina Suzanna BEZUIDENHOUT / VENTER
Get: Jan Louis VENTER en
Aletta Sofya VENTER / VENTER
Frans Johannes VAN DYK
Heila Maria VAN DYK / KRUGER ?
551 Susara Cecilia geb 1 Maart 1865
Ouders: Frans Johannis Jacobus DU PREZ
Adriana Hermina Aletta DU PREZ / PRETORIUS
Get: Petrus Gasparus SNYDERS en
Jacoba Johanna Petronella Maria SNYDERS / JONKER
Adriaan Jacobus VENTER (niet lidmaat )
Susara Cecilia VENTER / DU PREZ
P 103 1865
552 Frederik Johannis geb 6 Sept 1864
Ouders: Hendrik Leendert Lambert DU PLOY
Maria Dorothea Elizabetha DU PLOY / BOTHA
Get: Petrus Gasparus SNYDERS en
Jacoba Johanna Petronella Maria SNYDERS / JONKER
Willem PRETORIUS
Anna Adrian DU PLOY
553 Maria Catharina Carolina Magdalena geb 12 Okt 1864
Ouders: Petrus Johannes VAN DER WESTHUYZEN
Johanna Cornelia VAN DER WESTHUYZEN / BOTHA
Get: Johannes Christoffel BOTHA en
Maria Catharina Carolina Magdalena BOTHA / NEL
Jacobus VAN DER WESTHUYZEN en
Helena Magdalena DE BEER
554 Andries Johannes geb 20 February 1865
Ouders: Paul Stephanus BOTHA
Johanna Maria BOTHA / VAN DYK
Get: Jan Adriaan BOTHA en
Susanna Georgilina Maria BOTHA / MARNITZ
P 104 1865
GEDOOPT OP DEN 7 DEN MEI
555 Aletta Elisabetha geb 9 Maart 1865
Ouders: Nicolaas Martinus JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Maria Magdalena J VAN RENSBURG / AITCHISON
Get: Jasper AITCHISON en
Susanna Sophia AITCHISON / MINNAAR
Joachim Petrus JANSE VAN RENSBURG en
Susara Louisa JANSE VAN RENSBURG / LA GRANGE
GEDOOPT DEN 13 MEI 1865 OP DE PLAATS PALMIETFONTEIN VAN DEN HEER J DU PLESSIS
556 Elizabetha Suzanna geb 22 April 1865
Ouders: Hendrik Frederik GROBLER
Elisabetha Suzanna GROBLER / VORSTER
Get: Johannes Petrus DE KLOPPER en
Maria Jacoba DE KLOPPER / MINNAAR
Nicolaas Johannes GROBLER en
Maria Magdalena GROBLER / FOURIE
557 Annie Geertruida Susfielja geb 9 Maart 1865
Ouders: Hendrik Christoffel JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Cornelia JANSE VAN RENSBURG / VISSER
Get: Johannes Lodewyk J VAN RENSBURG en
Suzanna Elisabetha J VAN RENSBURG / WESSEL
Schalk Willem VAN WYK en
Catharina Jacoba VAN WYK / MEYER
P 105 1865
558 Bart Jacobus geb 26 Maart 1865
Ouders: Nicolaas Johannes GROBLER
Maria Magdalena GROBLER / FOURIE
Get: Theodorus Hermanus FOURIE en
Hanna Helena FOURIE / ROETS
Hendrik Frederik GROBLER (deurgeskrap)
Elisabetha Suzanna GROBLER / VORSTER (deurgeskrap)
Geschrapt op versoekt van den ouders deur my – teken L.G.F.Biccard
Johannes Hermanus GROBLER en
Frederika Cornelia GROBLER
559 Johan Herman geb 23 April 1865
Ouders: Johan Herman Bodes ELERS
Johanna Margaretha ELERS / OELOFSE ( geen lidmaat)
Get: Marthinus Nicolaas OELOFSE en
Elsje Catharina Magdalena OELOFSE / ROETS (doopmoeder)
Jacobus Martiens BOTHA en
Aletta Johanna BOTHA / VAASSEN ?
Stephanus Johannes MARITZ en
Johanna Magdalena MARITZ / SCHOEMAN
GEDOOPT TE MACHAPAANSPOORT DEN 28 DEN MEI 1865 TEN HUISE VAN DEN HEER FREDERIK BOTHA
560 Johanna Maria geb 30 Oct 1864
Ouders: Johannis Cornelis BEZUIDENHOUT
Elisabet Magdalena BEZUIDENHOUT / VENTER
Get: Matteus Jacobus VAN DER WESTHUYZEN en
Johanna Maria DE LANGE
Christoffel Jacobus BEZUIDENHOUT en
Johanna Adriana BEZUIDENHOUT / VENTER
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 3. WEET NIE OF EK NAALD IN HOOIMIED SOEK NIE Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:07 am (PST)
Môre navorsers
Johan Pottas by die UOVS het jy enige iets met die Pienaar geslagte te make? Skuus, ek val sommer nou met die deur in die huis. Ek het iewers op die Rootsweb tuiste korrespondensie gesien waar ek jou naam ook bemerk het. Daar was briewe gedateer 1999. Ieder geval:
Ek het 'n navraag: Ek soek meer inligting rondom Gysie Pienaar asseblief. Sy oorlede moeder was 'n nooi Van Deventer en was my oupa Jan se niggie. Ek soek hierdie verlore Van Deventer skakel. Sy en haar oorlede pa.
Sy volle name: Zacharias Mattheus Johannes Pienaar *21.12.1954 te Bloemfontein. Hy het in Dokkies skool gegaan. (Dr. Viljoen) Hy is getroud met Rida du Plessis, datum onbekend. Behalwe vir Ruan het hulle 'n dogter René, sy is die oudste. Hy het ook die Gysie Pienaar Motors daar naby Mimosa Mall as my geheue my nie in die steek laat nie. Jy weet dit seker in elk geval. My swaer se pa was Gysie se afrigter, rugby, in die Weermag. Gysie het op sy beurt my swaer geleer om reg aan te lê pale toe as so onder 13 kannetjie op Grey Kollege. Swaer het ook Gysie se beroemde no. 15 trui waarin hy 'n drie gedruk het en toe sy hande triomfantelik in die lug gegooi het. Ekself het René verpleeg as eerste jaartjie na 'n operasie aan haar voetjies. O sherbet dis seker nou meer inligting as wat toelaatbaar is op die webwerf. Sorry!
So terloops iemand het daar na Dr Freda Pienaar gesoek. Sy is 'n alombekende Internis en absoluut briljant. Sy is by Bloemfontein Medi Clinic. Sy is getroud met die ewe alombekende en briljante patoloog Dr Leon Wagner en hulle het 2 dogters waarvan ek weet. Hulle bly iewers op die Kimberley pad as ek dit nie mis het nie, swaer-hulle het al daar by hulle gekuier. Ek het Dr Leon se e-posadres as jy dit soek. Miskien is die vraag alreeds lankal beantwoord.
Groetnis
Berna van de Venter
Boodskap 4. Kroonstad 150 Posted by: "MJS Jordaan, navorsing" [email protected] Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:54 am (PST)
Suid Afrikaanse Genealogie - South African GenealogyBeste Hennie
Voorpsoed met julle reelings vir jul fees vieringe.
Ek aanvaar dat jy bewus is dat Kroonstad op 'n Jordaan plaas gevestig is met al die ander Jordaan geskiedenis/betrokkenheid in die Kroonstad gemeenskap.
Groete Marthinus Jordaan
Dr MJS Jordaan (PhD)
Bestel van Tourism in South Africa Order of Tourism in South Africa [email protected]
Jordaan genealogie en erfenis Jordaan geneaology and heritage [email protected]
URL: www.mjsjordaan.co.za Sel 084 577 3226 Fax: 0866 226 382
Boodskap 5. BESTBIERS Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:29 am (PST)
Hallo Annemie Lou(w)rens
Jong as ek so na jou webtuiste kyk dan wil dit my mos voorkom asof my suster nog nie jou navraag beantwoord het oor haar skoonfamilie nie! Sussie het teveel hooi op haar vurk. Laat weet my of sy het of nie, asseblief. Jy het in elk geval haar e-posadres. Dis Marelizé Bestbier. Sy het nou in die Kaap 'n baie mooi foto van ouma Theresa en oupa "Paddy" se restaurant/drive inn"/"take-aways"/wegneemete plek afgeneem te Oudtshoorn. Vra haar bietjie daarna. As ek nou uit my beurt gaan dan is ek in die "dog box"! So onthou jy het niks by my gekry nie...... !
G5 Frans Bestbier 5 * 9/10/1888 + 11/8/1968 ´ Hannah VAN RHYN *9/10/1897 +11/8/1976 H1 Francois Johannes (Pierce) (*11.02.1917 - oorlede 28.05.1987) gewese lid van SAW + ´ Theresa Maria LARAFFA woon ( Laruffa", sy is 'n baie petite kort Italianertjie - pragtige mens en verlede jaar al 87 jaar oud) *22.08.1920 In Pretoria (Nie meer nie, bly op die plaas Jubel, Stilfontein by tannie Wendy) I1 Francois Johannes "Frank" * 5/12/1943?/1942 , afgetrede brigadier-generaal in SAW. Hy is in Standerton gebore. Boer nou by Alma47 Hy getroud 24.04.1965 in Pretoria met Eileen Bezuidenhout *23 02.1943 Hulle het 2 kinders: Francois Jaques Bestbier *25.02.1967 getroud 27.02.1993 met Marelizé Johanna néé van de Venter *14.05.1966 Hulle het 2 seuns: Tiaan Francois Bestbier *03.08.1995 Jacques Stefan Bestbier *01.01.2002 Alriech Bestbier *08.04.1969 getroud _.10._ met Mariaan Faurie *05.02.197_ Hulle het 2 kinders: Minette Bestbier *25.02.2002 Heinrich *23.02.2004 I2 Andre * 31/3/1946 afgetrede generaal in SANW , woon Pretoria47 Ek weet net sy vrou se naam is Jeanette J1 seun47 - Sy naam is ook André J2 dogter47 - Ek dink sy is die oudste en ook Jeanette I3 Wendy Sy is getroud met James Hills, afgetrede SANW en hulle woon op Jubel soos alreeds vermeld. Hulle Boer nou. Hulle had 3 kinders, die een seun is oorlede. Daar is James en die oorledene ook André en 'n dogter Theresa. Hulle 2 is getroud en het ook kinders. Hulle woon almal nou in Nieu-Zeeland.
Groetnis
Berna van de Venter Boodskap 6. Fw: New file uploaded to SAGenealogie Posted by: "Hendrik Louw Gmail" [email protected] hendrik_louw Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:10 am (PST)
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Boodskap 7.1. New file uploaded to SAGenealogie Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:51 am (PST)
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Boodskap 8. BESTBIER FAMILIE Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:38 am (PST)
Hi Annemie
Dis nou beurtkrag se skuld dat my vorige e-pos nie heeltemal volledig uitgestuur is nie. Ek het agtergekom dat ek nie alles ingetik het wat ek moes nie maar dis helaas toe te laat. Dit was letterlik blou Donderdag met allerlei krisisse. Het die moeder van alle hoofpyne.
My swaer Francois is in Bloemfontein gebore. My sus is soos ek in Brandfort gebore. Hulle is in Bloemfontein getroud. Tiaan is in Bloemfontein gebore maar Jacques is in Warmbad, nou Bela-Bela gebore. Hulle bly soos ons in Nylstroom, nou Modimolle.
Alriech-hulle bly in Boksburg. Ek weet nie waar hy gebore is nie? Hulle is daar getroud en die kinders is daar gebore.
Groetnis Berna
Boodskap 9. RSC Dokumente. Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:51 am (PST) Dag vriende,
Ek was gou in Durban argief en het die volgende dokumente afgeneem. Skeisake in 1959.
LABUSCHAGNE Wilhelmina Dorothea * van Niekerk skei Frederik Johannes.[16 bladsye ]
MUSGROVE Gladys Mary * TROLLIP skei Leonard [23bl]
VENTER Stephanus Nicolaas skei Anna * VENTER [11bl] en
KEMP Petrus Gerhardus Rudolf skei Ellie Aletta voorheen AUCKAMP gebore SWANEPOEL. [15]
As iemand belangstel laat weet my asseblief en dan kan ek dit aanstuur.
Rita by > [email protected] <
Boodskap 10a. Begrafnisbriewe Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:14 am (PST)
1) - GEY VAN PITTIUS; Gys (Gysie) * 05/07/1947 + 10/01/2008, in lewe van Sasolburg, Vrystaat provinsie. Verassingsdiens: NH Kerk, Vanderbijlpark-Suid, Gauteng provinsie, 16/01/2008, 11:00, deur {Ds} Vikus VAN DER MERWE. Hy laat na sy seuns Bert en Christo en broer Hendrik.
Draers by Kerk: Bert Gey van Pittius - Seun; Christo Gey van Pittius - Seun; Hendrik Gey van Pittius - Broer; Louise Haywood - Skoonsuster; Anneline Grey - Vriendin; Marijke Kirstein - Vriendin. (Begrafnisbrief)
2) - SCHEPERS; Theresia Heinrietta (Trish) * 25/04/1949 + 04/12/2007. Diens: NH Kerk, Sonlandpark, Vereeniging, Gauteng provinsie, 10/12/2007, 11:00, deur {Ds} P VAN WYK.
Draers: Pieter Schepers - Seun; Marius Schepers - Seun; Jan Loggenberg - Broer; Gert Rossouw - Broer; Chris Pienaar - Swaer; Piet Swanepoel - Swaer.
Bedankings en Huldeblyk: Charlotte Pienaar. (Begrafnisbrief)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut, Vanderbijlpark.
Boodskap 11. (Koerant) Beeld 17 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:53 am (PST)
DU PLOOY; {Mnr} L, voorheen van Welkom, Vrystaat provinsie gedurende 1994 – 1995, kontak Charmain BLOEM by 071-245-3393 oor jou dogter. (Beeld – 17/01/2008)
MARÉ; Marné * 29/03/2001 en Marco * 13/09/2002. Jacobus MARÉ * 23/09/1979 kontak dringend vir Margaretha STEYN by 082-573-7529 oor aanneming en van verandering van kinders. (Beeld – 17/01/2008)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 12. Re: Ploegbaas SAS&H & MOTOR MAN Posted by: "barkerma barker" [email protected] Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:12 pm (PST)
En om hierby aan te sluit - wat sou 'n "motor man" in 1918 by die SAS&H gedoen het? vriendlike groete
Mark Barker MARK A BARKER P R E T O R I A
Boodskap 13. Re: [BP] Ploegbaas SAS&H Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:45 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
Ek het 'n foto iewers van daardie trollies of karretjie wat op die spoor aangedryf was vir inspeksie. Dit was nog 'n baie ou foto so distansie was nou nie te naby nie.Toe ek kind was het hy 'n soort van stang gehad of hefboom en ons het dit baie gesien as ons langs die spoorlyn gery het. Ek sal deur my fotos gaan en as iemand hom wil hê aanstuur.
Rita Q
----- Original Message ----- From: "Johann H Claassen"
Johan & Mark,
'n Motorman (Engels) was/is die persoon wat daardie elektriese/batteryaangedrewe karretjie op die spoorlyn "bestuur" (het). Hy het onder andere inspeksie werk op die lyne gedoen. Soms word hy vergesel van 'n span kundiges. Voor die elektriese/battery-karretjie se koms, het hulle 'n tipe platform op wiele gehad. Dit was mens aangedrewe. 'n Hefboom wat op-en-af deur 'n persoon beweeg is, het die karretjie vorentoe laat beweeg. Ek dra nie kennis van die meganiese detail nie, maar het dit gesien toe ek 'n kind was.
Ek hoop nie die amptenaar het ná sy aftrede die spoor(lyn) byster geraak nie! Ek gee dit maar deur soos dit aan my oorgedra is.
Groete Johann
Boodskap 14. Lysreels/lysetiket Posted by: "Andrew Kok" [email protected] jakok2001 Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:31 pm (PST)
Goeie more mede lyslede
Aan die begin van die jaar is dit dalk net weer nodig om almal te herinner aan ons lysreels en die gepaardgaande etiket. Lede kan hulle self graag weer daarvan gewis.
Oor die afgelope week het ons wonderlike reaksies van responente op navrae gekry met lang volledige lyste van inligting. Ongelukkig vergeet ons soms dat wanneer ons die "reply" knoppie druk dat die e-pos waarop ons reageer aangeheg word. Daardie lang e- posse word dus weer-en-weer gestuur. Wanneer ons reply is dit dus net goeie maniere om die ou e-pos uit te vee of dalk net die een sin of twee wat nodig is om die konteks behoue te laat bly daar te los.
Te veel te lang e-posse maak dat mense wat gekortwiek word deur min bandwydte baie lank sukkel om hierdie e-posse af te laai.
Lekker dag vir almal. groete
Andrew Kok
******************************** Dr J Andrew Kok Deputy Director: Knowledge Management Department of Social Development 7th floor, Union House, Queen Victoria St, Cape Town 021 483 6201
Boodskap 15. S A S & H TERMINOLOGIE Posted by: "Johan van Breda" [email protected] cjvanbreda Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:52 pm (PST)
'n Ploegbaas of spanbaas (Engels = ganger) is verantwoordelik vir die herstel en instandhouding van die spoorbaantrajek wat onder sy beheer is. Sy beheervoerende amptenaar was die spoorbaaninspekteur (Permanent Way Inspector).
Die spoorbaaninspekteur en meganiese ingenieur het gereeld met 'n spoormotortrollie die spoorbaantrajek ge-inspekteer. Die spoormotortrolliedrywer neem ek aan is vroeër 'n motorman genoem toe hulle nog met pomptrollies gery het.
Die woord ploeg in hierdie verband beteken span.
Groete,
Johan van Breda
Boodskap 16. Withfield Posted by: "martie2801" [email protected] martie2801 Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:26 am (PST)
Het enigeiemand DALK al die van Withfield raakgeloop af nagespoor Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3068
Datum: Fri Jan 18, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: S A S & H TERMINOLOGIE From: Chris - PSM & Associates
1b. Re: S A S & H TERMINOLOGIE From: Johan Brink
2a. Withfield From: Elisheva Quick
2b. Re: Withfield From: Willeen Olivier
2c. Re: Withfield From: Martie
3.1. New file uploaded to SAGenealogie From: [email protected]
4. LAASTE OOR BESTBIERS From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
5. Re: Ploegbaas From: Johan Pottas
6a. Ploegbaas SAS&H From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
7. [koerant]Die Republikein 18.01.2008 From: Louis Olivier
8a. VAN RENSBURG From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
8b. Re: VAN RENSBURG From: sastamouers
9a. VAN RENSBURG EN GARIEPDAM From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
9b. Re: VAN RENSBURG EN GARIEPDAM en Arundel From: Simon du Plooy
10. (Koerant) Beeld 18 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
11. [KOERANT]PAARL POST-2008 From: Elizabeth Teir
12. Viljoen x STRYDOM, sy xx vd WESTHUIZEN From: bonnie sydow
13a. Fw: Searching for E.W. Rossouw From: Isebelle Krauss
13b. Re: Fw: Searching for E.W. Rossouw From: obie oberholster
14a. ALBERTS From: Johan Brink
15a. Re: [BP] Ploegbaas SAS&H From: barkerma barker
16a. PMB Argief. From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
16b. PMB Argief. From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
17a. Re: Bezuidenhout Klipfontein From: Wynand Bezuidenhout
17b. Re: Bezuidenhout Klipfontein From: Wynand Bezuidenhout Boodskap 1a. Re: S A S & H TERMINOLOGIE Posted by: "Chris - PSM & Associates" [email protected] Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:53 am (PST)
Johan jy is heeltmal korrek Die term Ploegbaas was ook in gebruik by munisipaliteite as ,n VOORMAN en is so genoter op die betalingstate van ongeveer 1920
Groete
Chris Pitzer
Boodskap 1b. Re: S A S & H TERMINOLOGIE Posted by: "Johan Brink" [email protected] Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:20 am (PST)
Miskien moet ons ook by die taalkundiges gaan kers opsteek oor die wyer omskrywing van die woord 'ploeg'. Dit sal dalk die omvang van so 'n 'ploeg' (span werkers) en hul 'baas' se werksaamhede in die algemene begrip mooi verduidelik. Sover ek dit het, is 'ploeg' afgelei van die Ndl >plig >pleeg; dws om 'n werk te doen/om 'n taak te verrig/ om jou besig te hou met. Vergelyk ook "om egbreuk te pleeg" is om jou besig te hou met egbreuk! Seker ook in die geval van moord. Overgezet: 'n 'ploeg' is, soos reeds deur ander lysters genoem, en afgesien van die plaasimplement (!), 'n werkspan.
Groete tot die volgende interessantheid!!
Johan Hermanus
Boodskap 2a. Withfield Posted by: "Elisheva Quick" [email protected] eli_ian_tan Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:53 am (PST)
Hallo Martie
Kan jy my asb. Van die lys af kontak?
Groete
Elisheva
Elisheva QUICK [email protected]
Boodskap 2b. Re: Withfield Posted by: "Willeen Olivier" [email protected] willempie5 Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:56 am (PST)
Martie,
Ek het in Whitfield, Boksburg grootgeword, en ek weet ons het so st 2/3 rond geleer an wie dit vernoem is, maar ek kan nou om die dood nie onthou wie nie.
Ons het ook vir Ted Whitfield, die Kruger Wildtuin veldwagter wat messe gemaak het, geken. Hy het 'n seun en dogter, en ek dink altwee bly nog in die Wildtuin.
Willeen -- Willeen Olivier Rooihuiskraal Kotzé, van Wyk, Olivier, Bosman, en al hulle voorgeslagte ...
Boodskap 2c. Re: Withfield Posted by: "Martie" [email protected] martie2801 Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:13 am (PST)
Willeen
Baie dankie dit help al 'n bietjie
Martie
Boodskap 3.1. New file uploaded to SAGenealogie Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:22 am (PST)
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the SAGenealogie group.
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Regards, hendrik_louw
Boodskap 4. LAASTE OOR BESTBIERS Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:33 am (PST)
Hi Annemie
Die afgetrede Generaal André Bestbier van Pretoria en die Springbok rugbyspeler is een en dieselfde mens. Hy was 'n haker. Hy het in 1974 teen Frankryk in 2 toetse gespeel.
Sy broer Frank is 'n Junior Springbok skut, Bisley's. Hy was ook 'n voormalige Noord- Transvaal afrigter, rugby. Die sport gene loop dik deur die are. Hulle het almal baie goed in sport gevaar op meer as een vlak. Rugby en krieket. Hulle is baie goeie skuts. Dis nou die laaste wat ek oor hulle vir jou kan vertel.
Groetnis Berna
Boodskap 5. Re: Ploegbaas Posted by: "Johan Pottas" [email protected] pottasjj Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:51 am (PST)
Dag almal
Baie dankie, vir almal se antwoorde, nou kan ek tenminste vir so 'n 15 van den(r) Berg(h) werkers, 'n effense beter omskrywing gee as net dat hulle ploegbase was, die geslagte na ons sal nie weet wat 'n ploegbaas was nie.
Groete
Johan J Pottas Rekensentrum UV Tel: +27-51-401-2767 werk Tel: +27-51-522-7329 huis Tel: +27-82-569-3727 sel Faks: +27-51-401-2765 werk Posbus 34559, Faunasig, 9325
Boodskap 6a. Ploegbaas SAS&H Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:19 am (PST)
Hi Johan en ander
My oorlede oupa Jan van de Venter was 'n ploegbaas en die ouer garde het heeltemal tereg vir jou geantwoord. Oupa is later tot baanmeester bevorder. Hy het ook nuwe spore gelê in 1953 te Usakos in die ou Suidwes-Afrika. Hy het sy opleiding te Esselenpark ondergaan in Johannesburg. Hy is in die ouderdom van 50 jaar oorlede, 1966 toe hy gehurkend by 'n spoor gesit het om toesien dat alles reggedoen is toe die fluitjie geblaas word om te waarsku teen aankomende "verkeer". Hy was 'n volslae perfeksionis, baie veiligheidsbewus asook terdeë bewus van die groot verantwoordelikheid. Daar was teveel geraas van masjinerie, so groot geel gedrog "Metu/isa?" (weerskante goed so "hamers" om die "ballas" klippe onder die dwarslëers in werk om die spore te lig) (die masjien was in die plek van die hande arbeiders/bieters ingestel) waarmee hulle gewerk het en hy het nie die fluitjie gehoor nie. Dit was tussen Virginia en Hennenman. Die Oranjé Snel was in aantog. Te laat het oupa die fluitjie gehoor; hy is die geskep en die lug ingeslinger. Nodeloos om te sê dit was tragies en hy is opslag gedood met veelvuldige beserings ens. My Vader moes hom gaan uitken en ja dis 'n gesig wat hy nog nooit vergeet het nie, al het hy nie als gesien en eers daarna verneem wat alles gebeur het! My pa word 70 in April. Die trane loop altyd met oupa se verjaarsdag...... ! Van die kleinkinders het net ek hom geken en ek was maar 5 jaar toe hy oorlede is. Sommer so stukkie SAS&H geskiedenis.
Kyk in die woordeboek daardie klippe word so genoem, harde growwe materiaal Ek praat nie lelik nie...... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nie seker van die geel masjien-naam se spelling.
Groete Berna
Boodskap 7. [koerant]Die Republikein 18.01.2008 Posted by: "Louis Olivier" [email protected] Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:04 am (PST)
Jammer oor die hele berig Prof Nico RoosNamibië verloor sy kunsmeester [image: (c) Estelle de Bruyn]
Hy het ook pas 'n uiters geslaagde kunsuitstalling in die Woermann Huis op Swakopmund gehad waaroor Republikein Maandag berig het. "Elke berg wat ek skilder is my berg; elke woestyn, my woestyn. Dis my innerlike belewenis wat ek weergee. Ek skilder 'mindscapes' eerder as 'landscapes'," het prof. Roos onder meer in die onderhoud oor sy werk gesê. Nicholaas Oswald Roos is in 1940 in die distrik Herbert naby Kimberley gebore.
In 1950, toe die jong Nico tien jaar oud was, het sy ouers na Namibië getrek. Prof. Roos het die Namibiese landskap sy eie gemaak en ook die land. Hy het sy skoolopleiding aan Emma Hoogenhout Laerskool en Windhoek Hoërskool voltooi waarna hy in die beeldende kuns in Pretoria studeer het.
Hierna het hy in Windhoek by Jan Möhr, Centaurus en Windhoek Höerskool skoolgehou voor die akademie hom weer geroep het, en hy sy studies voortgesit het. Tydens sy roemryke akademiese loopbaan in die kunste, was hy onder meer verantwoordelik vir die vestiging van 'n voltydse beeldekunsdepartement aan die Universiteit van Pretoria.
Hy het na 30 jaar aan die Universiteit van Pretoria aan die einde van 1999 die tuig neergelê en teruggekom na Namibië, waar hy tot sy dood in die Khomas Hochland geboer het. Prof. Roos laat sy vrou, Tokkie, drie dogters en drie kleinkinders agter. 'n Roudiens sal volgende week by die Nuwe Kapel in Windhoek gehou word en nadere besonderhede oor die begrafnisreëlings sal later bekendgemaak word.
Sy werk het internasionale erkenning geniet en is onder meer in die versamelings van die Namibiese Kunsvereniging in Windhoek, die Regering van Namibië, die Namibiese Uitsaaikorporasie, die Suid-Afrikaanse Uitsaaikorporasie, die WNNR in Pretoria, Volkskas Bank, Pretoria, Sasol in Johannesburg, die Universiteit van Pretoria, die Universiteit van die Vrystaat in Bloemfontein, Unisa in Pretoria, die Pretoria Kunsmuseum, die staatsversameling van Suid-Afrikaanse kuns in Bonn, Duitsland, Anglo American in Johannesburg, Price Forbes Groep in Londen, Phillip Sameuls Fine Art, St. Louis, Missourri, Amerika en Global Art, Genevé, Switserland opgeneem.
-- Linda & Louis Olivier Pretoria 0128031028 [email protected] [email protected] Olivier, Coetzee, Swart, du Plooy
Boodskap 8a. VAN RENSBURG Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:19 am (PST)
André van Rensburg
Ek benodig hulp/inligting oor die onderstaande mense:
To start we need to go back a generation. Nicolaas Albertus Jansen van Rensburg was married in Mosselbaai in 1850 to Margaretha Isabella Rautenbach (daughter of Georg Frederik Rautenbach and Elsje Catharina Roelofse). He was from the farm Rietfontein in the Colesberg district and she was from the farm Brakfontein, near Mosselbaai. Nicloaas and Margaretha's membership of the Dutch Reformed Church were transferred to Colesberg from Mosselbaai on 10 August 1878, most likely to join some of the children who moved there earlier.
They had the following children:
G1 Nicolaas Albertus baptised on 21 December 1851 at Mosselbaai, married Margaretha Adriana van Schalkwyk
G 10 Cornelis Johannes (John) born 31 May 1870, baptised Colesberg 18 Sept 1870, married Hester Cornelia de Plessis (witnesses at his baptism included:
Petrus Venter, Eljse Catharina Janse van Rensburg, Cornelis Johannes Janse van Rensburg, Louisa Janse van Rensburg) (Watter Louisa is sy nou? Dalk my ouma-grootjie.
Three of these sons and their farms featured in the Anglo-Boer War. Amazingly two of the farms were the headquarters for the English and Boer forces, and one of these farms were the headquarters for both sides at different times.
The eldest son was born on 5 August 1851 and they also named him Nicolaas Albertus Jansen van Rensburg (b1 c1 d6 e1 f2 g1). This child was baptised on 21 December 1851 at Mosselbaai. The family trekked some time after 1855 and settled at the farm Taaiboslaagte, Colesberg. This is also further confirmed in personal correspondence with Jean G Le Roux, who states that no Van Rensburgs owned any farms in the Colesberg area before 1855. The father passed away 24 July 1897 and the mother died 15 August 1915. The son Nicolaas Albertus Jansen van Rensburg (b1 c1 d6 e1 f2 g1). He was accepted into Dutch Reformed church at Colesberg when he was 17 years on 8 February 1869. His sister Elsje Catharina also became a member on the same day. He got married at Philippolis on 7 April 1875 to Anna Margaretha Adriana van Schalkwyk. This couple lived on the farm Rietfontein, Arundel, a few kilometers south of Colesberg.
H6 Maria Monica born 20 Apr 1892, baptised Colesberg 5 Jun 1892 (Parents from Rietfontein) witnesses included: George Fredrik Janse van Rensburg, Emarensia Janse van Rensburg, Johan Janse van Rensburg, Gertruida Maria de Villiers. Hierdie Monica en nog ene by name van Jacqueline was glo beeldskoon.....!!!
. One of these members were Nicolaas Albertus Janse van Rensburg, who lived at Rietfontein, Arundel. He was a very well known and very influential burgher in the area.
Hierdie bogenoemde geskiedenis is my oorvertel deur die ouergarde van my familie. Dit is ook gesê dat die Gariep-dam se waters nou oor daardie plase vloei - ek praat volgens hoorsê nou, dit moet ek beklemtoon. My ouma-grootjie: Louisa Daniellina Jansen van Rensburg *12.04.1865 in Mosselbaai x Hermanus Carel du Preez *_.08.1861 in Hanover getroud 14.05 1883
Ek het iewers laat een aand gelees van "De Dam te Arundle/Arundel" maar dit was laat en ek het dit nie geboekmerk nie. Nou kry ek dit nie weer nie.
Vriendelike groete Berna
Boodskap 8b. Re: VAN RENSBURG Posted by: "sastamouers" [email protected] sastamouers Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:38 pm (PST)
Hallo Berna
Jy vra vae vrae, en ek kan jou nie juis help nie. Ek antwoord jou ondertoe, > André van Rensburg
Nicolaas Albertus Jansen van Rensburg was married in Mosselbaai in 1850 to Margaretha Isabella Rautenbach > (daughter of Georg Frederik Rautenbach and Elsje Catharina Roelofse). .... > They had the following children: > G1 Nicolaas Albertus baptised on 21 December 1851 at Mosselbaai, > married Margaretha Adriana van Schalkwyk > G 10 Cornelis Johannes (John) born 31 May 1870, baptised Colesberg 18 Sept > 1870, married Hester Cornelia de Plessis (witnesses at his baptism included: > Petrus Venter, Eljse Catharina Janse van Rensburg, Cornelis Johannes Janse > van Rensburg, Louisa Janse van Rensburg) (Watter Louisa is sy nou? Dalk my > ouma-grootjie.
Ek weet nie watter Louisa sy is nie, en of sy van jou familie is nie.
...... > H6 Maria Monica born 20 Apr 1892, baptised Colesberg 5 Jun 1892 (Parents > from Rietfontein) witnesses included: George Fredrik Janse van Rensburg, > Emarensia Janse van Rensburg, Johan Janse van Rensburg, Gertruida Maria de > Villiers. Hierdie Monica en nog ene by name van Jacqueline was glo > beeldskoon.....!!!
Jy sal moet meer inligting inwin, om nuttig te wees...... > Hierdie bogenoemde geskiedenis is my oorvertel deur die ouergarde van my > familie. Dit is ook gesê dat die Gariep-dam se waters nou oor daardie plase > vloei - ek praat volgens hoorsê nou, dit moet ek beklemtoon. > My ouma-grootjie: Louisa Daniellina Jansen van Rensburg *12.04.1865 in > Mosselbaai x Hermanus Carel du Preez *_.08.1861 in Hanover getroud 14.05 > 1883 > Ek het iewers laat een aand gelees van "De Dam te Arundle/Arundel" maar dit > was laat en ek het dit nie geboekmerk nie.
Ek weet nie of daar 'n Gariepdam op een van die plase is nie. Maar die plase bestaan nog. As jy meer inligting kry laat my weet. Ek het al baie hierdie familie gesoebat om 'n foto te kry van die oubase van die plaas, want dit is belangrik vir die geskiedenis. Ek wag nog steeds.
Andre v R
Boodskap 9a. VAN RENSBURG EN GARIEPDAM Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:24 am (PST)
Hi daar
Hoe ver is Bethulie en Colesberg van mekaar? Gariepdam is naby Bethulie..., so ek weet nie van watter plase daar gepraat word nie....? Weet nie hoeveel daar was nie?
Berna
Boodskap 9b. Re: VAN RENSBURG EN GARIEPDAM en Arundel Posted by: "Simon du Plooy" [email protected] sjdp1951 Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:49 am (PST)
Berna,
Bethulie - Gariepdam omtrent 50 Km Colesberg - Gariepdam omtrent 40 Km ARUNDEL is 'n stasie(gewees)- 1/2pad tussen Colesberg en Noupoort.
Simon.
Boodskap 10. (Koerant) Beeld 18 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:28 am (PST)
BEYTELL; Chireez. {Mnr} VAN HEERDEN kontak S PRETORIUS by 012-344-4432 oor aanneming van Chireez. (Beeld – 18/01/2008)
DE NECKER; {Dr} Jan Adriaan Jacobus, in lewe van Woodhill, Pretoria. Gedenkdiens: NG Kerk, Moreletapark, Rubensteinweg 589, (Ou Kerk), Pretoria, 21/01/2008, 11:00. Verassing. (Beeld – 18/01/2008) Grobbelaars & Church Street Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria, 012-348-5556.
DU PLOOY; {Mnr} L, voorheen van Welkom, Vrystaat provinsie gedurende 1994 – 1995, kontak Charmain BLOEM by 071-245-3393 oor jou dogter. (Beeld – 17, 18/01/2008)
HIEMSTRA; Menno + 12/01/2008. Dankdiens: NG Kerk, Arcadia, Pretoria, h v Kerk- en Wesselstraat, Pretoria, 16/01/2008, 11:00. Verassing. (Beeld – 18/01/2008) Grobbelaars & Church Street Begrafnisdienste, Riviera, Pretoria, 012-329-3682.
MARÉ; Marné * 29/03/2001 en Marco * 13/09/2002. Jacobus MARÉ * 23/09/1979 kontak dringend vir Margaretha STEYN by 082-573-7529 oor aanneming en van verandering van kinders. (Beeld – 17, 18/01/2008)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 11. [KOERANT]PAARL POST-2008 Posted by: "Elizabeth Teir" [email protected] kerrieborrie Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:48 am (PST)
Deaths
------AARON: ANDRIES SNR. Sag heengegaan op 14/12/2007. Begrafnis: Saterdag 22/12/2007. Diens by huis: 08:30 & Kerk 09:00. Vir verdere navrae, skakel 021-862-3966. ------CLOETE: GAYNOR. Met hartseer maar wonderlike herinneringe neem ons afskeid van 'n goeie vriendin. Van Davids-gesin (Desmond). ------CUPIDO: WHILVIN. 13/12/1997 - 18/12/2007. Met dankbaarheid en waardering sê ek: Dankie Here dat U my gehelp het om te verstaan en te aanvaar. Van Deborah. ------DIRKS: ADAM. Sag heengegaan op 12/12/2007. Begrafnis 9:00 Elkana (Simon-dium) 23/12/2007. Word diep betreur deur egge-note, kinders, broers en susters. ------MOERAT: MAURENA. 16/12/2007. Skielik van ons weggeneem. Sal jou baie mis. Soms met 'n glimlag, soms met 'n traan, maar mooi herinneringe sal ons altyd bybly. Rus in vrede. Van kinders en familie. Begrafnis by huis te Bellview no. 20, 12:30 & 13:00 by Hillcrest kerk. ------MOUNTFORD: GLENNYS. Our beloved wife and mother, passed away peacefully on 16/12/2007. She will be deaply missed and always loved. Raymond, Simon and Lynita. Memorial Service at Holy Trinity Church, Main Street, Paarl at 10:30 on Friday 21/12/2007. ------MOUNTFORD: GLENNYS. Our dear friend passed away 16 December 2007. No last goodbye, but the memory of you will never die. Sadly mourned by André and Mary. ------VAN DER WEST-HUIZEN: JACOBS RICHARD (JNR). Gebore 28/04/1981. Tragies heengegaan op 14 Desember 2007. Word diep betreur deur familie en vriende. Begrafnis: Saterdag 22 Desember 2007, 10:00 by Nuwe Apostoliese Kerk in New Orleans (Chicago). Navrae 078-387-6100. ------In memoriam
------ABRAHAMS: WILLIE (BOY) 30/12/1931 - 02/01/2006. Dé se 2de verjaarsdag weg van ons. Die herinneringe raak sterker, die vermisting en hartseer groter. Ons berus in God se wil. Liefde: Jou vrou, kinders & kleinkin-ders.
------BARENDS: BYRON. Byron, jy het so uitgesien na jou 18de verjaarsdag, dan sou jy 'n groot man wees.... Ons mis jou. Baie liefde Auntie & Zea.
------BENJAMIN: JOHN JAMES. 25/12/2007. Your first birthday to be celebrated in heaven. You left us with many precious memories. You will live on in our hearts. Clarence, Sharoll, Sharry & Cleeve. ------BENJAMIN: JOHNY. Daddy on Christmas day it will be your first birthday away from us. Not a single day has passed without thinking about you. Miss you lots. Love: Amoy, Dudley & children. ------CAROLISSEN: CHRISTINA. Passed away 26/12/2003. Nana my dearest friend, you will remain in my heart and in my thoughts till we meet again. Rest in peace. Lovingly remem-bered by Delene and family. ------CROTZ: SOPHIA. 29 Desember 2006 - 29 Desember 2007. Reeds een jaar van ons geskei. Mooi herinneringe sal ons altyd bybly. Sal met liefde onthou word deur kinders, kleinkinders en agterkleinkinders. ------CYSTER: FREDE-RICK (99/12/29) & KATHLEEN (04/12/18). If roses grow in heaven, Lord please pick a bunch for us, place them in their arms and tell them they're from us. Lovingly remembered by Alistair, Wilma, Eleanor, Cynthia, Fredericka & families. ------DAVIDS: ADAM ETIENNE. Your first year without Heavenly Father (23/12/07). In our hearts a memory is kept of a husband and father we love and will never forget. We treasure your good memories and will always remember you for the kind and generous person you were. Always be loved and missed by Carol & children - Jethro, Keisha, Caryn. ------DE KOKER: MARIO DEAN. 13 Desember 2007 was jou 10de jaar weg van ons gewees. Mis jou baie. Van jou bedroefde moeder, broer, suster en familie. ------JOHANNES: ARTHUR HERMANUS. 19/12/1937 - 03/07/2007. Dit sou Boeta se 70ste verjaarsdag gewees het, maar God het anders beskik. Van Mary, Abe, Nina, Sureta, Win & kinders. ------LOVEMBER: DAVID. 20/12/2002 - 20/12/2007. 5 Years gone, but your sweet memories keep us strong. With love from: Wife, children, grand- children and great- grandchildren. ------ROMAN: HEINE. Your 9th Christmas away from us and yet it still feels like yesterday. Till we meet again. From family. ------RUTHFORD: ENID (née November). 1975/12/29 - 2003/03/01. Jy was altyd so vrolik en het voluit gelewe. Ek mis jou nog steeds, maar weet dat jy gelukkig is by ons Hemelse Vader. Petula. ------SAMPSON: PIERRE. Op 28/12/2007 vyf jaar van ons weggeneem. Die verlange en vermisting is groot, maar liefdevolle en mooi herinneringe sal altyd in ons harte voortleef. Van eggenote en kinders. ------SEPTEMBER HENDRY (WHITE). 14/03/1946 - 24/06/2007. Jou eerste Kersfees weg van ons. Die verlange is groot, maar liefdevolle herinneringe leef voort. Met baie liefde van eggenote, Leonora, kinders, kleinkinders en familie ------WHITTEN: MATHYS. This is your 3rd birthday away from us. If roses grow in heaven Lord, please pick a bunch for us, place them in Dad's arms and tell him they're from us. We miss you Dad. From Mary Carl Zwaan & children. ------WITBOOI: AUDREY. Op 18 Desember is dit reeds 6 jaar gelede. Dit voel soos gister. Ons mis mamma, leef steeds in ons harte. Van Lambert, kinders, kleinkinders, skoonseuns, skoondog-ters en agterkleinkinders. ------
Boodskap 12. Viljoen x STRYDOM, sy xx vd WESTHUIZEN Posted by: "bonnie sydow" [email protected] Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:08 am (PST)
Hallo medegeners
Hulp word benodig by die identifisering van die volgende families.
1. Johannes Hendrik VILJOEN + < Junie 1869 x Hervormde Kerk Potchefstroom nr. 1047, op 24.7.1866 Suzanna Geertruida STRYDOM.
N soektog in SAG.14 lewer heelwat VILJOENS met die name Johannes Hendik of Jan Hendrik maar waar datums voorkom is hulle te jonk of sterf hulle na 1869.
2. Jacob Albert Nicolaas van der WESTHUIZEN x Hervormde Kerk Potchefstroom nr. 1346, op 24.7.1866 Susanna Geertruida STRYDOM, wed.Jan VILJOEN
Vir hulle het ek ook geen ander datums nie.
Ek is seker dat sy wel dieselfde persoon is maar het nie vir haar in my STRYDOM databasis nie.
Groete vanaf Bellville
Andrew (Bonnie) Sydow
Boodskap 13a. Fw: Searching for E.W. Rossouw Posted by: "Isebelle Krauss" [email protected] iekrauss Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:42 am (PST)
Jammer maar kan iemand help.
..ek vermoed Evart is nog in die land van die lewendes...
Isebelle E Krauss *Lloyd.
----- Forwarded Message ---- From: "[email protected]"
My name is Martin Heinzel and I´m working as an editor for a TV production (called "All you need is love") in Germany produced by Endemol Germany. "All you need is love" is a show that is on air Sunday, 7:00 pm on the mayor TV station SAT 1 and it is a successful entertainment show dealing with the subject of love. The well known host (in Germany) is Mr. Kai Pflaume. For 60 minutes we are dealing with emotions that can be romantic, sad or painful but it can also be energizing and funny, inspiring and fascinating. In our show we also try to find people worldwide if they have lost each other over the years or if children have never seen their biological parents.
In this case woman named Sylvia Helga (46 years old) is looking for her biological father whom she never saw in her live. The only thing which is really missing in her live are her roots to her father. She wants to know if she looks like her dad and if there are other affinities. Sylvia´s wish to find her father is getting stronger and stronger every day.
Sylvia´s story: Sylvia was born 2nd november 1961. At that time her father Ewart William Rossouw (born 25th march 1934 in Blomfontain, South Africa) was working as a musician at the Symphonic Orchestra Leeuwarden, Netherlands. Before Sylvia was born, her father had asked her German mother (living in Berlin) twice to marry her. Sylvia´s mother wanted to marry Ewart but she couldn´t resist the pressure of her own mother who was strictly against the love attachment with Ewart. Thus Eward never had a chance to see his daughter and finally went back to South Africa. His last known address in 1969 was: 383 Main Street, Paarl, Cape Province, South Africa.
In 1976 Sylvia´s mother died in a car accident and Sylvia didn´t have any other relatives. In the 1980ies Sylvia tried hard to find her father but she couldn´t find him. Since then Sylvia´s wish to find her father is getting stronger and stronger every day.
Perhaps you are able to give me a hint, where I can find Ewart William Rossouw. I hope that you or people around you might be able to support me somehow in my research. In case you have any kind of information for me I would be very grateful if you would contact me. It would be great if I was able to get in contact with Mr. Rossouw and ask him if he wants to meet his daughter for the first time in their lives.
I would like to thank you very much in advance for your help!
If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. You can always reach me by phone:
0049-221-250 61013 (office number)
0049-176-150 300 995 (cell phone) or by Email: [email protected] or by mail: Endemol Deutschland GmbH Martin Heinzel Redaktion "Nur die Liebe zählt" Am Coloneum 3-7 50829 Köln Germany
Kind regards from Germany Martin Heinzel
______Martin Heinzel Redaktion "Nur die Liebe zählt" Endemol Deutschland GmbH Am Coloneum 3 - 7 D - 50829 Köln
Telefon +49 (0)221 250 6113 Telefax +49 (0)221 250 6129 E-Mail: [email protected] ______Endemol Deutschland GmbH, Geschäftsführer: Borris Brandt, Sitz der Gesellschaft: Köln, Handelsregister: HRB 52848, Amtsgericht Köln
Boodskap 13b. Re: Fw: Searching for E.W. Rossouw Posted by: "obie oberholster" [email protected] obieoberholster Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:05 am (PST)
Hier kom n interesante een!!!!
Boodskap 14a. ALBERTS Posted by: "Johan Brink" [email protected] Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:49 am (PST)
Is daar dalk iemand wat op die ALBERTS'e werk?
Ek soek nog steeds na besonderhede van Sarel Francois ALBERTS, boer "Soupansdrif", distr Brits. Sy een seun, Louis Jeremia Cornelius (6.5.1872 -ca 24.11.1949) was getroud mat Gezina Susanna née DU PLESSIS.
Groete
Johan Brink
Boodskap 15a. Re: [BP] Ploegbaas SAS&H Posted by: "barkerma barker" [email protected] Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:32 pm (PST)
Hi Rita - ek sal vreeslik graag so 'n foto wil he - groot asb!!!!! vriendelike groete
Mark Barker -- MARK A BARKER P R E T O R I A
Boodskap 16a. PMB Argief. Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:32 pm (PST)
Naand vriende ,
Ek het foto's van die volgende Lêers wat in lêer was vir bestellings wat ons tussendeur afgeneem het.
MSCE 2758-66 STRYDOM G F ; " 2752-66 SMITH J E " 2756-66 JOUBERT E S M " 2321-61 MacDonald J C " 2328-61 Coetzee G J M " 1655-59 SCHULDT T " 1658-59 Janse Van Rensburg A C S M " 654-59 Mc Rae F H " 3255-66 BLOM J P V " 5983-21 Labuschagne L J
NATAL ALMANAC 1905 Branding Registration ( Diere se brandmerke vir verskillende area's in Natal )
Groete Rita uit Warm Durban
Boodskap 16b. PMB Argief. Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:40 pm (PST)
Naand vriende ,
Ek het foto's van die volgende Lêers wat in lêer was vir bestellings wat ons tussendeur afgeneem het.
MSCE 2758-66 STRYDOM G F ; " 2752-66 SMITH J E " 2756-66 JOUBERT E S M " 2321-61 MacDonald J C " 2328-61 Coetzee G J M " 1655-59 SCHULDT T " 1658-59 Janse Van Rensburg A C S M " 654-59 Mc Rae F H " 3255-66 BLOM J P V " 5983-21 Labuschagne L J
NATAL ALMANAC 1905 Branding Registration ( Diere se brandmerke vir verskillende area's in Natal )
Groete Rita uit Warm Durban
Boodskap 17a. Re: Bezuidenhout Klipfontein Posted by: "Wynand Bezuidenhout" [email protected] wynbez Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:39 pm (PST)
Hello Alta,
Ag, dankie ou Alta. Interressant. Kan jy miskien vir my meer details kry omtrent jou vriendin en haar familie, of beter, kan jy my skakel met haar deur haar of my e-mail te gee of hare vir my. Ek sal graag meer wil uitvind omtrent die Bezuidenhouts. Hulle moet dan sekerlik familie wees van die Wynand Frederik ne? Waar presies is die grafte? Ek sal graag daar 'n draai wil gaan maak en miskien sommer die grafte afneem eendag as ek weer na my ouma en tannie in Middelburg ry. Ek sal graag ook meer details omtrent die deel van die Bezuidenhouts wil kry. Ken jy hulle goed?
Ja, die Klipfontein darem. Dit lyk my, die mense in die omgewing het vasgehaak by Klipfontein en Hartbeesfontein, want in Witbank, Middelburg, Kendal, Springs tot sover as Groblersdal is elke tweede plaas omtrent Hartbeesfontein of Klipfontein genoem.
Groete Wynand Bezuidenhout Johannesburg
Boodskap 17b. Re: Bezuidenhout Klipfontein Posted by: "Wynand Bezuidenhout" [email protected] wynbez Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:40 pm (PST)
Skuus Alta,
Is die Roux familie van jou?
Groete Wynand Johannesburg
Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3069
Datum: Saturday, January 19, 2008
Daar is 11 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: S A S & H TERMINOLOGIE From: barkerma barker
2. (Koerant) Beeld 19 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
3a. Spoortrollie From: andrespinnekop
3b. Spoortrollie - Video-clip From: Annelie Els
3c. Re: Spoortrollie - Video-clip From: Fanie Blignaut
4.1. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
4.2. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
5. [Koerant] The Mercury Vrydag 18 Jan. 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
6a. Re: VAN RENSBURG EN GARIEPDAM en Arundel From: Johan Vermeulen
7. Re : [SA-Gen] VAN RENSBURG From: MontXsuZ-point-ca
8. VAN RENSBURG & BREYTENBACH, Anna Johanna (*1771 +1808?) From: MontXsuZ-point-ca Boodskap 1a. Re: S A S & H TERMINOLOGIE Posted by: "barkerma barker" [email protected] Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:31 pm (PST)
More Johan - baie dankie vir die inligting oor die 'motorman' - het al baie gewonder en baie gevra en nooit 'n abtwoord gekry nie! Ek waardeer die inligting! vriendelike groete
Mark Barker -- MARK A BARKER P R E T O R I A
Boodskap 2. (Koerant) Beeld 19 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:56 pm (PST)
BOTHA; Theunis Louis, in lewe van Sinoville, Pretoria. Gedenkdiens: NH Kerk, Montana, Jan Bandjiesstraat, Montana, Pretoria, 19/01/2008, 10:00. Verassing. (Beeld - 19/01/2008) Grobbelaars & Church Street Begrafnisdienste, Riviera, Pretoria, 012-329-3682.
KUNZMANN; Max Frederick, in lewe van Pretoria. Verassingsdiens: AGS Kerk Lofdal Gemeente, h v Ben Swartstraat en Veertiendelaan, Gezina, Pretoria, 21/01/2008, 10:00. (Beeld - 19/01/2008) Grobbelaars & Church Street Begrafnisdienste, Riviera, Pretoria, 012-329-3682.
VAN WYK; Jacob Pieter, in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: NG Kerk, Akasia, Pretoria, 21/01/2008, 13:00 # Heatherdale Begraafplaas, Britsweg, Pretoria-Noord. (Beeld - 19/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 3a. Spoortrollie Posted by: "andrespinnekop" [email protected] andrespinnekop Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:10 pm (PST)
More al die Geners ..
Die spoortrollie waarna daar verwys word is in die 80 's gebruik in Volkswagen se advertensie vir die VW syncro kombi. Die 'boewe' het op die spoortrollie gery wat met 'n pompaksie beweeg was.
Indien julle dit wil aflaai kan julle na www.syncrohospital.co.za gaan en in die video seksie dit gaan aflaai.
David Kramer is ook te sien in die advertensie.
Boodskap 3b. Spoortrollie - Video-clip Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:21 pm (PST)
Hallo Medergeners,
Moet net byvoeg. Daardie 'video-clip' is 8.5MB groot.
Groetnis Annelie Pretoria.
Boodskap 3c. Re: Spoortrollie - Video-clip Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:10 pm (PST)
Môre Annelie,
Dit is mos ook 'n Ougoed, kan dit nie ook op Fotki geplaas word nie??
Groete, Fanie Blignaut
Boodskap 4.1. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:46 pm (PST)
P 106 1865
561 Jacobus Adriaan geb 12 Aoril 1865
Ouders: Johan Hendrik SNYDER
Johanna Catharina SNYDER / SNYDER
Get: Jacobus Adriaan SNYDER en
Catharina Elizabet SNYDER / MARIAS
Johannes BEZUIDENHOUT en
Catharina Elisabet BEZUIDENHOUT / BEZUIDENHOUT
562 Johannes Jury François geb 27 Dec 1864
Ouders: Johannes Jacobus SMIT
Johanna Maria SMIT / BEZUIDENHOUT
Get: Johannes Jury François BEZUIDENHOUT en
Maria Suzanna VAN VOREN
Johannes Petrus BEZUIDENHOUT en
Anna Catharina BEZUIDENHOUT / OOSTHUYZEN
563 Maria Johanna geb 4 Jan 1865
Ouders: Willem PETERSON
Maria Johanna PETERSON / VISSER
Get: Johan Hendrik SNYDER
Johanna Catharina SNYDER / SNYDER
Frederik Jacobus BOTHA en
Aletta Catharina BOTHA / DE LANGE
P 107 1865
564 Hester Gertruida geb 20 Mei 1865
Ouders: Jacobus Cornelis BEUKES
Helena Catharina BEUKES / BOTHA
Get: Willem Schalk Jakobus VAN HEERDEN en
Hester Geertruida BOTHA
Jacobus Johannes BOTHA en
Geertruida Elisa BOTHA / NEL
OP MACHAPAANSPOORT GEDOOPT DEN 27 AUG 1865
565 Frederik Antonie geb 10 Mei 1865
Ouders: Frederik Antonie NIEWENHUISEN )
Hester Adrian NIEWENHUISEN / DU PREEZ ) geen lidmaten
Frans Johannis Jacobus DU PREEZ en - doopvader
Susara Cecilia VENTER / DU PREEZ – doopmaoeder
Get: Adriana Hendrina Aletta DU PREEZ
Roelf Johannes NIEWENHUISEN en
Jacoba Catharina Elisabetha Geertruida NIEWENHUIZEN / HENDRIKSEN
GEDOOPT IN HAAKDOORNBULTLAGER DEN 3 SEPT 1865
566 Jan Georg geb 4 Aug 1865
Ouders: Jacobus Hendrik DUVENAGE
Helena Gertruida DUVENAGE / JAKOBS
Get: Jan Georg DUVENAGE en
Anna Jacomina DUVENAGE / BOTHA
Johannis ERASMUS en
Aletta Johanna ERASMUS / JAKOBS
P 108 1865
567 Cornelis Willem geb 2 Mei 1865
Ouders: Philippus Roedolf PRINSLOO
Johanna Margarietha PRINSLOO / DE BEER
Get: Jacoba Adriana Magdalena Frederika BRONKHORST / DE BEER
Jan Hendrik VENTER
Martha Suzanna Pieternella VENTER / DU PREEZ
Maria Pieternella Margarietha OELOFSE / PELTZER
568 Barend Christoffel geb 23 April 1865
Ouders: Barend Christoffel DUVENAGE
Elsje Magdalena DUVENAGE / DUVENAGE
Get: Jacobus Hendrik DUVENAGE
Helena Gertruida DUVENAGE / JAKOBS
Jan Jacobus DUVENAGE
Frederika Pieternella Elizabetha DUVENAGE / BRITZ
569 Willen Hendrik geb 11 Mei 1865
Ouders: Gerardus Martinus OOSTHUIZEN
Christina Catharina Martina OOSTHUIZEN / VAN STADEN
Get: Willem Hendrik VAN STADEN en
Dina Magdalena VAN STADEN / BROODRIJK
Jan Louis VENTER
Jacoba Aletta Frederika VENTER / DORFLING
P 109 1865
570 Gert Lourens Johannis geb 10 Aug 1865
Ouders: Johannis Jacobus STRYDOM
Hanna Johanna Catharina STRYDOM / VAN EMMENIS
Get: Gert Lourens VAN EMMENIS
Anna Jacoba VAN EMMENIS / GEYSER
Gert Roelof Johannis STRYDOM
Anna Jacoba Catharina STRYDOM / WILLEMSE
Maria Magdalena Johanna VAN EMMENIS
571 Susara Bernardina Salmina geb 6 Aug 1865
Ouders: Roelof Abraham Jacobus DE MEYER
Aletta Cecilia Maria DE MEYER / SMIT
Get: Johannes Petrus SMIT
Susara Bernardina Salmina SMIT / POTGIETER
Floris Petrus Jacobus DE MEYER
Johanna Suzanna Maria DE MEYER / GILDENHUIS
572 Petrus Arnoldus Carolus geb 22 Aug 1865
Ouders: Teunis Hassie DUVENAGE
Johanna Willemina Margarietha DUVENAHGE / SMIT
Get: Petrus VILJOEN
Christina Willemina VILJOEN / SMIT
Gert Petrus SMIT
Hanna Anna Catharina SMIT / SMIT
P 110 1865
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 4.2. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:48 pm (PST)
GEDOOPT DEN 10 DEN SEPTEMBER 1865
573 Johan Christiaan Jacobus geb 7 April 1865
Ouders: Jakob DE BEER
Helena Elisabetha DE BEER / HERBST
Get: Jan Johan NORJEE
Anna Willemina NORJEE / DE BEER
Jan Johan PIETERSE
Sina Susara PIETERSE / PRINSLOO
GEDOOPT DEN 17 DEN SEPTEMBER
574 Hester Geertruida Alida geb 5 Mei 1865
Ouders: Frederik Hendrik GEYSER
Sara Johanna Susanna GEYSER / BRONKHORST
Get: Petrus VAN DER MERWE
Hester Gertruida Alida VAN DER MERWE / BRONKHORST
Jacoba Cornelia GEYSER
GEDOOPT DEN 20 SEPT DOORNHOEKSLAGER
575 Tobias Georg geb 7 Sept 1865
Ouders: Johannis Zacahrias GROBLER
Maria Sofia Elisabetha GROBLER / LA GRANGE
Get: Lourens Martinus BRONKHORST
Anna Susanna BRONKHORST / GROBLER
Johannis Petrus LA GRANGE
Catharina Elisabetha LA GRANGE / JAKOBS
P 111 1865
576 Martha Johanna Catharina Pieternella geb 27 Juny 1865
Ouders: Andries Hendrik BOTHA
Martha Johanna Catharina Pieternella BOTHA / VAN HEERDEN
Get: Hermanus Jacobus POTGIETER
Johanna Magdalena POTGIETER / ROOS
Willem Petrus MARé
Susanna Maria MARé / VAN HEERDEN
577 Piet geb 13 Aug 1865
Ouders: Johannis Christoffel ROETS
Elsje ROETS / GROBLER
Get: Hendrik Frederik GROBLER
Elisabet Susanna GROBLER / VORSTER
Gert Theodorus Hermanus FOURIE
Johanna Magdalena FOURIE / ROETS
578 Christiaan Stefanus geb 3 July 1865
Ouders: Frederik Jacobus BOTHA
Sofeia Magdalena BOTHA / STRYDOM
Get: 2de Get: Johannes Petrus LA GRANGE
Catharina Elisabetha LA GRANGE / JAKOBS
Johan Hendrik JAKOBS
Cornelia Johanna Suzanna JAKOBS/ ERASMUS
P 112 1865
GEDOOPT DEN 24 DEN SEPTEMBER TE ZOUTPANSBERG
579 Johan Christiaan Jacobus geb 29 Mar 1865
Ouders: David Johannis Stefanus HERBST
Hester Martha HERBST / JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Get: Jakob DE CLERCQ
Martha Sofeia DE CLERCQ / JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Jan Lucas JANSE VAN RENSBURG
GEDOOPT DEN27 SEPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG
580 Alettha Susanna geb 13 Nov 1864
Ouders: James CRANEY - Schotshe Kerk
Aletta Susanna CRANEY / NIEWENHUIZEN – geen lidmaat
Get: Johan CHEIMBERS (CHAMBERS)
Dina Geertruida CHEIMBERS / FOURIE – doopmoeder
GEDOOPT DEN 26 NOV TE ZOUTPANSBERG
581 Hendrik Gerhardus geb 28 Oct 1865
Ouders: Johannes Petrus LA GRANGE
Catharina Elisabetha LAGRANGE / JAKOBS
Get: Jan Hendrik JAKOBS
Cornelia Johanna Suzanna JAKOBS / ERASMUS
Theodorus Johannes ERASMUS
Emmerencie Margrieta ERASMUS / JAKOBS
P 113 1865
GEDOOPT OP DEN 3 DEN DECEMBER TE ZOUTPANSBERG DOOR DEN PREDIKANT N.J. VAN WARMELO
582 Hendrik Josephus geb 12 Sep 1865
Ouders: Gert Lourens VAN EMMENIS
Anna Jacoba VAN EMMENIS / GEYSER
Get: Petrus Wilhelmus GEYSER
Aletta Sofeia GEYSER / VENTER
Johannes Michiel VENTER
Mareina Adriana VENTER / GEYSER
583 Frederik Hendrik geb 3 Maart 1865
Ouders: Johannes Jacobus GEYSER
Margrieta Magdalen GEYSER / BOTHA
Get: Frederik Hendrik GEYSER
Susara Johanna Susanna GEYSER / BRONKHORST
584 Stephanus Johannes geb 17 Oct 1865
Ouders: Stephanus Johannes JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Elisabetha Helena J VAN RENSBURG / BOTHA
Get: Johannes Augustinus BREEDT
Dorothea Magdalena Carolina BREEDT / COMBRINK
Nicolaas Martinus J VAN RENSBURG
Maria Magdalena J VAN RENSBURG / AITCHISON
585 Karel Karolus Lourens Rasmus Erasmus geb 15 Nov 1865
Ouders: Karel Karolus Lourens Rasmus Erasmus DE BEER
Anna Willemina DE BEER / SMIT
Get: Johan Hendrik DE BEER
Maria DE BEER / BOTHA
Christiaan Martinus Arnoldus DE BEER
Martha DE BEER / ENGGELBERG
P 114 1865
586 Johanna Adriana geb 10 Nov 1865
Ouders: Filip Stefanus JAKOBS
Aletta Johanna JAKOBS/ VORSTER
Get: Piet GROBLER
Johanna Adriana GROBLER / JAKOBS
Willem Abraham GROBLER
Hesje Catharina GROBLER / POTGIETER
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 5. [Koerant] The Mercury Vrydag 18 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:51 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:- " I'm not cynical. Just experienced." - ANON.
GEBOORTES:- HAYES Brandon & Leigh 'n seun Connor Christian * 11/01/2008 in Westville Hospitaal.
VAN BALLEGOOYEN Mike & Debbie 'n seun Cameron Craig Burt *17/01/2008 in Westville Hospitaal.
CARMODY Doug ,Kerry, Ola en Tom verwelkom geboorte van Jack David *15/01/2008 in Parklands.
HUDSON Tim & Cindy 'n dogter Emma Elizabeth * ? in Parklands . Sussie vir Rachel.
NEWELL Leigh & Warren 'n dogter Camryn Leigh * 15/01/2008 . Sussie vir Tyron . Kleinkind vir Jeff en Mal, Alan & Les.
VAN DER MERWE nee FRANCIS Renier & Jenny 'n seun Mark Patrick * 11/01/2008 in Parklands. Boetie vir Rachel & Ben.
VERLOWINGS:- BERRY Rob & Jeanette se seun Clint aan Anebell , dogter van Hein & Anneli HATTINGH.
BROOKS Willie & Nola se dogter Noelene aan Shaun, seun van Peter & Sheila JACKSON.
KJELLING Wilhelm & Maren Isabella Karlsen van Noorwee,se seun Einar aan Natasha Ruth ,dogter van +Isaac & Wendy MAHARAJ.
DOOD:-ALBERS nee CATHY Elizabeth (Bettie) Julia + 11/01/2008 .Ma van Amanda x Larry en ouma van Zara-Leah.; Ma van Benjamin; Ma van Alistair x Martha en kinders; Ma van Carin x Christopher, ouma van Donovan, Wayne, Cherylee en oumagroot van Cypress-Leah en Tyde.;Ma van Glenn x Geraldene ,Duncan en Karl. TEL:- 0832645812. Memorial by Frere Rd Presbyterian Kerk Glenwood op 21/01/2008 om 10 vm.
ARMSTRONG nee FLOWEDAY Frances ,voorheen van Erin, Ontario Canada . Memorial by St John's United Church Benmore om 11vm. Verassing Privatt. Ingesit deur DOVES Randburg .011-7921304.
COURLEY Ian. Aan Rosanne, Sue ,John en George ons simpatie van Dave, Simone, Jessica en Luke COLES.
DUNCAN Errol Andrew van Hilton + 15/01/2008 .Metgesel van Annie Francis. Pa van Andrew en Claire, broer van Diana en Angus. Begrafnis by The Church of The Ascention Hilton op 23/01/2008 om 2.30 nm. Ingesit deur OAKLEIG 031 2059959.
DUNN Stella May .Ma van Brian, Lolly, Bruce en Neil; Ma en ouma van Graham, Anthoula, Kerynne, Megan en Seth. Memorial by Berea Congregational Manning Rd op 22/01/2008 om 11vm.
ECOB Jack 09/06/1923 ------16/01/2008 x + Irene. Pa van Uwe & Joan, Jerry & Barbie en oupa van Paul en Karen, Mark ,Craig en Mel, Barry en Martine.
EDWARDS Elizabeth Anne (Betty ). Ma van Rosemary, David, Philip en Charles, skoonma en ouma. Begrafnis by Assemblies Of God Church Newlands East 19/01/2008 om 10.30vm. Daarna na Stellawood Begraafplaas.
HALLIDAY Ian Gordon 17/04/1914 ---7/01/2008 .Pa van Kevin en Jennifer, skoonpa van Maureen. Oupa van Ian en Anthony . Oupagroot vir Michael, Robyn en Nicole. Memorial 25/01/2008 by St James Church Durban om 3nm.
KING Madeleine Christine (Lulu) van Newlands East x Jefferey. Ma van Laura, Belinda , Megan , Rowan en Rhowanda ,suster ,tannie en ouma. Begrafnis by The Holy Family Parish Catholic Church Newlands East op 19/01/2008 om 0930vm. Daarna na Newlands East Begraafplaas.
LALA Niren (CHARLIE) van Johannesburg voorheen van Overport. x Usha Chirkoot . Pa van Anjum ,seun van + BD en Polly LALLA , Broer van Rajen en + Soosheel LALLA. Begrafnis by Kensington Sêkondere Skool Saal op 20/01/2008 om 11-1400uur waar die liggaam ook " In State " sal lê . Daarna na Brixton Krematorium vir verassing om 1500uur.
LOTTERING William Johannes x + Francina. Pa van Denise en Melanie Broer, oom en oupa. Begrafnis 19/01/2008 by Christ The King Parish Wentworth om 10 vm Verassing privaat. Ingesit deur ISIPINGO Inc.PAM'S
LOUW Anna Magdelena (Maggie) 20/08/1924-----16/01/2008. Ma van Dawie & Mary- Lou, Jo en Sos, Andre en Anita, Amanda en Roland ,Heila en Arnold. 15 kleinkinders en 12 agterkleinkinders.Memorial by North Baptist Church PMB 19/01/2008 0m 14.30 nm ingesit deur OAKLEIGH PMB 0333426116.
MEIKLEREID Gerald Wyndham + 15/01/2008. tuis x Pricilla Pa en oupa van Jennifer, Michael, Alison, Deborah en Catherine, Dean-Charles, Rita, Hugh en Sarah MEIKLREID in Ierland en broer van Daphne, Jearery .
SIMPSON George Stanley + 16/08/2008.
TIFFLIN Henry William Benjamin van Newlands East . Broer van Anne en swaer van Harry, oom en neef. Begrafnis by Open Door Assemblies Newlands East op 19/01/2008 om 10.30 vm .Daarna na Stellawood Begraafplaas.
MEMORIAM:- BARKLEY Ruth Catherine x Arthur . 2jaar dood nou. Onthou deur Allan, Doreen, Bianca, Brett en Megan; Bebe;
CULLIS Colin + 18/01/2007. x Pam.Pa van Joy x Steve, Sue en Jordan,
JOSEPH Joyce (JJ) 2jaar dood nou. Jy sou nou 74 gewees het Ma en familie van JOSEPH'S, RICHARDSON'S ,PETERSEN'S ,ANDRESON'S & MOOLAN'S .
MERKEL Fred 17/01/1936--18/01/2001.Onthou met liefde van Maureen, Heidi, Guy, Eran, Jacky, Freebies en Michael.
MOLLISON Bruce 4 jaar dood nou. Ons seun . Van Millie, Peter en seuns.
NORRIS Violet 21 jaar dood nou. Ma van Hansen, Doreen ,Sheila ,Eric ,Arthur en Allan.
SCHNITTKER David 15/10/1983 ----18/01/2003 .Onthou deur Ouers en familie.
SING nee ROOKS Lillian Helen + 18/01/2001. Ma van Gail, Boy, kinders en kleinkinders.: Ma enn ouma Gavin, Shorty, Gareth , Marlon, Lisa ,Michel en Bryse.
DANKIES:- GAILLARD . Frank, Kim ,Jodi-Leigh en Reese bedank almal vir ondersteuning met verlies van seun en broer ook kleinkind, Darren.
SWAN Nelson (Digger) . Coleen en familie bedank almal vir ondersteuning en simpatie tydens ons tyd van rou.
Gegroet uit sonskyn Durban Rita Quebbemann
Boodskap 6a. Re: VAN RENSBURG EN GARIEPDAM en Arundel Posted by: "Johan Vermeulen" [email protected] johanvermsa Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:47 pm (PST)
Berna,
Indien jy dalk inligting oor die plaas wil bekom kontakdie eienaar :
Cornelia of Manie WIUM, telefoon 051 753 1448 of o83 6847 690.
In die ABO was daar 'n Engelse kamp op Arundel gewees.
In die omgewing van Arundel is ook Jasfontein, Bosberg en Ventersfontein.
Groete
Johan.
Boodskap 7. Re : [SA-Gen] VAN RENSBURG Posted by: "MontXsuZ-point-ca" [email protected] montxsuz Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:43 pm (PST)
Berna
Ek is nie seker watse inligtin jy soek nie, want dit lyk my jy het reeds heelwat hieronder. Ek het wel die egpaar in my databasis.
Nicolaas Albertus JvR is a1-b1-c1-d6-e1-f2 Hy was *19/8/1925 Beaufort-Wes en + 24/07/1897 Sy was Margaretha Isabella RAUTENBACH * 30.7.1832 = George 27.1.1833 + 15.8.1915 x Mosselbaai 13.5.1850
Selfs sy vader is in Bloemfontein oorlede (+1863), so basies het etlike genrasies van die tak (insluitende neefs, niggies, ooms, tannies) saam noorde toe getrek, tussen 1855 en 1860. Hierdie egpaar is definitief na 1857 eers weg uit Mosselbaai uit.
Vir bgnde egpaar het ek slegs 2 van hul kinders verder nagevors - g3 George Frederik *1855 =Mosselbaai , en - g4 Hester Catharina Susanna *1857 = George
Eg se dogter (x Venter) is in Philippolis begrawe (ek het 'n foto van haar graf) Lg (x Botha) is self in Luckhoff begrawe (ditto).
Jou ouma-grootjie: Louisa Daniellina is wel in die SAG as g5.
Ek het hulle probeer opkyk onder Du Preez, maar daar is soveel Hermanus (C)Karels, eggenote nie aangedui nie. Miskien b6c4d2e5f1g5h8 of b6c4d2e5f4g5h2 of b6c4d2e5f6g3h8 of b6c4d2e6f1g2h1
Jy mag dalk kaarte van die plase by die Chief Surveyor Genral vind, laat weet of jy dit kry. http://csg.dla.gov.za/ Die Gariepdam bedek wel nou groot dele van die area. Voorheen bekend as die Hendrik Verwoerd Dam, die grootste dam in Suid-Afrika sover ek weet.
My oupa en pa het aan die ander kant van die rivier grootgewrd (Bethulie distrik). Ek weet vir 'n feit dat my pa se laerskool nou onder water is, ek het fotos van die skool voor die dam klaar was (1971).Ons is dus verlangse familie :-), my familie is a1-b1-c1-d6-e3- f4 ens. My boek oor die tak van die familie is byna voltooi, en ek het al "ons" plase nagevors..My skatting is 1860 vir my familie se trek vanaf Mosselbaai Vrystaat toe.
Groete
Christo van Rensburg Vancouver, Kanada Boodskap 8. VAN RENSBURG & BREYTENBACH, Anna Johanna (*1771 +1808?) Posted by: "MontXsuZ-point-ca" [email protected] montxsuz Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:57 pm (PST)
Het een van die lyslede asb dalk 'n FOTO van a1-b13 Anna Johanna Breytenbach se Inventaris? aka Bredenbach, Breedenberg
Ek het 'n transkripsie van die dokumente: (MOOC 8/57.31a, MOOC 8/57.31b, MOOC 8/57.31c)
Maar ek wil baie vreeslik graag 'n FOTO hê, want ek soek 'n foto van die handtekening van haar man Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg a1-b1-c1-d6
Weet iemand dalk haar datum van dood? Die inventaris was 1/8/1808, maar ek vermoed sy was toe lankal oorlede - haar man het reeds teen daardie tyd 'n seun by sy tweede vrou gehad.
Naskrif vir Berna. Ek het wel a1-b1-c1-d6-e1 (Nicolaas) se S/K - jou Nicolaas Albertus se vader Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3070
Datum: Sunday, January 20, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: Ploegbaas SAS&H From: Louis Hurn
2. Lief en leed From: Dennis Laptop
3. Lief en Leed: - Nic van Helsdingen From: Dennis Laptop
4a. REAKSIE OP DIE VAN RENSBURGS VAN ARUNDEL From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
4b. Re: REAKSIE OP DIE VAN RENSBURGS VAN ARUNDEL From: sastamouers
5. [Koerant] The Mercury Vrydag 18 Januarie 2008 CREDITORS... From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
6a. Guilliam Johannes Oberholster Geb 1816 From: Elizabeth Oberholster
6b. Re: Guilliam Johannes Oberholster Geb 1816 From: [email protected]
6c. Re: Guilliam Johannes Oberholster Geb 1816 From: Elizabeth Oberholster
6d. Re: Guilliam Johannes Oberholster Geb 1816 From: [email protected]
6e. Re: Guilliam Johannes Oberholster Geb 1816 From: Elizabeth Oberholster
6f. Re: Guilliam Johannes Oberholster Geb 1816 From: [email protected]
7a. Re: PMB Argief. From: Charlie Els
8a. Viljoen x STRYDOM, sy xx vd WESTHUIZEN From: Viljoen, HC
9a. Re: Bossert SAG1 (vir Chris Bossert) From: Charlie Els
10.1. New file uploaded to SAGenealogie From: [email protected]
11. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 17 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
12. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 18 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
13. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 19 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
14a. Begrafnisbriewe From: Fanie Blignaut
15a. DU TOIT From: Marlene S
16a. Branding Registration/Diere se brandmerke From: Elmien Wood
16b. Re: Branding Registration/Diere se brandmerke (vir Elmien Wood) From: Charlie Els
17a. Re: BRINK-GESLAGSREGISTER From: Elmien Wood
18. Dood van pa From: Annaretha Smitsdorff Boodskap 1a. Re: Ploegbaas SAS&H Posted by: "Louis Hurn" [email protected] ljhurn Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:21 am (PST)
Hi Berna,
Daardie masjien is 'n " Swaarballasonderstopmasjien" en word vervaardig en bedryf deur 'n maatskappy Plasserrail vir Spoornet.
Groete Louis
Boodskap 2. Lief en leed Posted by: "Dennis Laptop" [email protected] dennis_pretorius Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:30 am (PST)
Hallo Almal
Ek het die volgende berig van Louis ontvang en deel dit graag met julle - met ons simpatie aan Magda:
Hi Dennis
Ek het gister hierdie hartseer berig van Magda van Tonder ontvang
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dagsê Louis,
Ja heerlik saam gewerk aan die Van Tonders - my man Jacobus Machiel * 8-07-1955 is oorlede 6-01-2008. Begrawe 11-01-2008 in die Bainsvlei begraafplaas in Bloemfontein. Maar dit was maar ook 'n verlossing vir hom. Bykans 17 jaar MS gehad. Laaste 10 jaar in rolstoel. Gelukkig weet ons waar hy is en daar kan hy nie net loop nie maar sekerlik huppel!!
Groetnis en mooi jaar vir jou en jou vrou.
Magda van Tonder Bloemfontein.
Kortliks oor Magda
Magda is 'n mede samesteller van die Van Tonder stam register. Sy het ook 'n groot bydrae tot die Venter register gemaak
Die volgende is 'n uittreksel uit die Van Tonder register j2 Jacobus Machiel Van Tonder, V.D.M. (emeritus) * Pretoria 8.7.1955 ? Gereformeerde Kerk, Pretoria 22.8.1955 + Bloemfontein 6.1.2008 x Gereformeerde Kerk Schweizer- Reneke 6.4.1984 Magda VENTER * Krugersdorp 16.7.1962 (mede samesteller) ? Gereformeerde Kerk Noordrand. Huwelik voltrek deur haar vader Ds Jacobus Johannes Venter.
Dennis Pretorius, Krugersdorp, South Africa/Suid Afrika Executive Member of GSSA / Uitvoerende Lid van GGSA Genealogical Researcher/Genealogiese Navorser Owner of SAGenealogy E-mail list/Lyseienaar - SAGenealogie poslys E-Mail/E-pos: [email protected] Web address/Webadres: http://mzone.mweb.co.za/residents/k75/genealogy.html Telephone/Telefoon: +27-83-679-8541 Fax/Faks +27-86-609-8541
Boodskap 3. Lief en Leed: - Nic van Helsdingen Posted by: "Dennis Laptop" [email protected] dennis_pretorius Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:30 am (PST)
Hallo Almal
Ek het nuus ontvang dat Nic tuis is en is seker dat hy graag van julle sal wil hoor en lees !!
Skryf gerus of skakel hom om hom te ondersteun en op te beur !!
Groetnis
Dennis Pretorius, Krugersdorp, South Africa/Suid Afrika Executive Member of GSSA / Uitvoerende Lid van GGSA Genealogical Researcher/Genealogiese Navorser Owner of SAGenealogy E-mail list/Lyseienaar - SAGenealogie poslys E-Mail/E-pos: [email protected] Web address/Webadres: http://mzone.mweb.co.za/residents/k75/genealogy.html Telephone/Telefoon: +27-83-679-8541 Fax/Faks +27-86-609-8541
Boodskap 4a. REAKSIE OP DIE VAN RENSBURGS VAN ARUNDEL Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:27 am (PST)
Goeie middag alger
Jittejie, ek het nie die reaksie verwag nie, dis oorweldigend en ek is so opgewonde soos 'n Klein dogtertjie wat haar eerste teddiebeer gekry het onder die kersboom. Jammer vir die vaagheid Andre, ek probeer kophou soos n dronk weeluis tussen my familie en hul dinge. Ouma Louisa is gebore Mosselbaai. Ek het gegoogle met Paardeberg op soek na die Van Deventers toe ek op die stukkie ABO geskiedenis van Colesberg afgekom het. Daar is 'n foto van die ou opstal wat deur die Engelse beset is en die geskiedenis rondom die Van Rensburgs wat gevange geneem is. Die Du Preez'tjies is uitgesorteer dankie.
Johan ek sal nog met tyd met die Wium-egpaar in verbinding tree. Christo sowaar daar uit Kanada, kan jy glo! Baie dankie vir al die inligting. Ek het naderhand gedog die storie met die dam en sy waters is vergesog. Nou bevestig jy dit vir my. Darem nie leuenaars in my familie nie! Ja, die Gariep is die grootste dam in Suid-Afrika en was voorheen die Verwoerddam genoem. (Skuus! My verstand en vingers wil nou nie behoorlik saampraat nie, het 'n lekker boere broodjie gebak, nou uit die oond gehaal moes gister vetkoek bak oor die simpel krag-stories. Hul politiekery het my PC FRED nou al net so vol politiek!!!) Goed waar was ek nou....? O ja vir André en Christo sal ek van lys af 'n foto stuur van ouma-grootjie Louisa, het ongelukkig nie van die manne nie. Christo die foto/s oor die plaas sal gaaf wees, ek sal dit waardeer. My perfeksionistiese streep, deeglikheid, ongeduld en nuuskierigheid dryf almal om my teen die mure uit. Ek wil 'n deeglike stamboom saamstel, nie 'n afgewaterde storie nie. http://www.myfamily.com/home.aspx?mfsid=1056624 "BERNIE'S FAMILY HISTORY IN CREATION" Dit is my webtuiste in wording. Besoek gerus asseblief.
Die SAS&H en van Rensburg-stories is voorwaar baie interessant, ek geniet dit en is bly as ek kan meedoen.
Groete Berna
Boodskap 4b. Re: REAKSIE OP DIE VAN RENSBURGS VAN ARUNDEL Posted by: "sastamouers" [email protected] sastamouers Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:56 pm (PST)
Goeie More Berna,
Ek het gegoogle met Paardeberg op soek na die Van Deventers toe ek op die stukkie ABO geskiedenis van Colesberg afgekom het. Daar is 'n foto van die ou opstal wat deur die Engelse beset is en die geskiedenis rondom die Van Rensburgs wat gevange geneem is.
Het jy dalk die skakel na bogenoemde? nie! Ja, die Gariep is die grootste dam in Suid-Afrika en was voorheen die Verwoerddam genoem.
Die plaas Arundel is definitief nie waar die Gariepdam/ Verwoerddam is nie. Arundel is suid van Colesberg.
Dankie ook vir die mooi familie foto.
Groete Andre v R
Boodskap 5. [Koerant] The Mercury Vrydag 18 Januarie 2008 CREDITORS... Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:53 am (PST)
Dag vriende,
THE BOTTOM LINE:- " When all resources, food ,wildlife, trees,fuel, are destroyed, man will not be able to eat money."- Native American proverb.
CREDITORS / DEBTORS :-
SPRADBURY Edgar Leyland ID 3301275059086 + 28/10/2007 van 11 Brazillia Place Glenmore x Pavathy ID 5612240919081 ESTATE Nr. 15999/2007/Dbn. CT WENSLEY P.O.Box 51014, Musgrave Rd.4062.
BROCKSCHMIDT Ilke Karin Magdalena ID 4309140065187 + 18/07/2007 x Ulrich Stephen ID 3908055072186 in gemeenskap van goedere woonagtig 36 Monaco Le Domaine , 100 Acutts Drive Hillcrest. ESTATE Nr 14260/2007. FNB TRUST Services P.O.Box 12619 Brandhof 9324.
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OLIVIER Johannes Lodiwikus ID 2804105048089 + 01/09/2007 van 25 Gus Brown Rd Warner Beach . ESTATE Nr. 14461/2007 Dbn. POTGIETER DUVENHAGE EN GENOTEBK 8 Somerset Str 562 Swellendam 6740 TEL: 028 5141128
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Uit Warm Durban gegroet Rita Quebbemann
Boodskap 6a. Guilliam Johannes Oberholster Geb 1816 Posted by: "Elizabeth Oberholster" [email protected] lizoberholster Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:58 am (PST)
Liewe Lysteraars
Hierdie Guilliam Johannes is in 1816 te Graaff Reinet gedoop en is op 5 Aug 1887 oorlede. Sy naam en geboortedatum is op ‘n papiertjie gegriffel wat in die familie behoue gebly het as dat hy ‘n voorvader is, gevolg deur sy seun Guilliam Johannes gebore 1845.
Tydens Des / Jan het ek en gesin baie begraafplase besoek op soek na familie agtergrond. Onder andere het ons alle Oberholster grafte te Hopetown afgeneem – maar hierdie Guilliam Johannes was nie daar te vinde nie.
Kan iemand dalk help met waar hy begrawe is? En met wie hy getroud is? En wie sy kinders was?! Ons weet net van Guilliam Johannes wat op 8 Sept 1845 te Hopetown gebore is. Geen kennis van ander kinders of sy vrou nie…
Vir interessantheid – ons het ook hierdie man se State Bybel onder oë gehad en het fotos daarvan geneem, asook van die paar los papiere (al erg verweer!) wat in die Bybel gevind is. Dit was nogal vir ons as gesin ‘n grootse ervaring!
Enige hulp met hierdie man sal hoog op prys gestel word!
Beste groete en dankie byvoorbaat
Liz Oberholster
Boodskap 6b. Re: Guilliam Johannes Oberholster Geb 1816 Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] newabbott Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:30 am (PST)
Hallo Elizabeth,
Het julle ook die "Pioniersbegrafplaas" besoek? Dis heeltemal weggesteek agter 'n skuur op die grondpad na Brakfontein.
Groete, Henry
Boodskap 6c. Re: Guilliam Johannes Oberholster Geb 1816 Posted by: "Elizabeth Oberholster" [email protected] lizoberholster Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:35 am (PST)
Henry - nee! Het duidelik nie van daai een geweet nie!
Wonder of iemand dalk daar kan help???
Dankie vir die moontlike leidraad!
Groete, Liz
Boodskap 6d. Re: Guilliam Johannes Oberholster Geb 1816 Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] newabbott Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:41 am (PST)
Ek het deatyds inligting gekry oor sy dogter Helena Elizabeth OBERHOLSTER * 1912 Graaf-Reinett, + 1902 Zeerust, by Errol Norden. Miskien kan hy verder help.
Groete, Henry
Boodskap 6e. Re: Guilliam Johannes Oberholster Geb 1816 Posted by: "Elizabeth Oberholster" [email protected] lizoberholster Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:50 am (PST)
Dankie Henry - maar nee. Nou klop die datums nie meer nie! Ek soek na 'n 1816 ou, en 'n dogter in 1912 gaan nie werk nie!
Liz
Boodskap 6f. Re: Guilliam Johannes Oberholster Geb 1816 Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] newabbott Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:54 am (PST)
Tikfout! Moet 1812 wees. Miskien sy suster, Sy is met 'n Jacobs getroud, een kind het die Oberholster name soos deur jou gegee. Probeer kontak Errol Norden. Ek wil nie met sy data smous nie.
Henry
Boodskap 7a. Re: PMB Argief. Posted by: "Charlie Els" [email protected] charlieels Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:25 am (PST)
Hallo Rita,
Ek sou graag die J C McDonald-een wou hê. Sal jy vir my stuur asb?
Dankie en groete, CHARLIE
Boodskap 8a. Viljoen x STRYDOM, sy xx vd WESTHUIZEN Posted by: "Viljoen, HC " [email protected] hc_viljoen Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:17 am (PST)
Beste Bonnie
Kan jy asb net weer die huweliksdatums van die betrokke Suzanna Geertruida Strydom kontroleer? Of is dit so dat iemand met dieselfde name op dieselfde dag 24.7.1866 in dieselfde Hervormde Kerk in Potchefstroom getroud is? Dit kan nie dieselfde persoon wees nie, want die een bruidegom (Johannes Hendrik Viljoen) is eers in 1869 oorlede.
Ek het 'n Johannes Hendrik Viljoen x Susanna Gertruida Strijdom wat op 15 Sep 1867 'n seun Johannes Hendrik Viljoen gehad het; hy is op 6 Oct 1912 te Potchefstroom oorlede.
Groete
Christo Viljoen
Boodskap 9a. Re: Bossert SAG1 (vir Chris Bossert) Posted by: "Charlie Els" [email protected] charlieels Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:29 am (PST)
Chris,
Lyk my niemand het jou nog geantwoord nie? Ek stuur vir jou iets direk.
Groete, CHARLIE
Boodskap 10.1. New file uploaded to SAGenealogie Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:48 am (PST)
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Boodskap 11. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 17 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:09 am (PST)
Gelukwensings BARNARD, Martha. Geluk met 90ste verjaarsdag. Annie, kinders, kleinkinders. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 17/01/2008)
Sterfgevalle COETZEE, Lettie. +Sondag 13 Jan 2008. Kinders, kleinkinders. Roudiens Saterdag 19 Jan 2008 11:00 Avbob-kapel, h.v. Harrower- & Hancockweg, Port Elizabeth. Verassing privaat. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 17/01/2008) Alfred Jones AVBOB Port Elizabeth 041 484 2731
In Memoriam HORNE, Sannie Maria (Bokkie). Twee jaar oorlede. Kinders, kleinkinders. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 17/01/2008)
WHITEBOOI, Anthony (Tottie). Vandag vyfde verjaarsdag in die Hemel. Broer Tommy, Zelda, Curstey, Tammy. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 17/01/2008)
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 12. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 18 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:36 am (PST)
In Memoriam MÜLLER, Dwyan Gordon. 20/10/1979 - 19/01/2005. Pa Gordon, Ma Elaine, broers Juan, Shaun, Raun. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 18/01/2008)
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 13. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 19 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:42 am (PST)
Sterfgevalle MÜLLER, Sophia (Baby) née HALGREEN. +Donderdag 17 Jan 2008 by Huis Genot oueteuis. Begrafnisdiens Dinsdag 22 Januarie 2008 14:00 NG Kerk, St Leonardsweg. Noordeinde- begraafplaas. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 19/01/2008) Cindy Strydom DOVES Port Elizabeth 041 365 5399
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 14a. Begrafnisbriewe Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:45 am (PST)
Naand Vriende,
Ek het nou net 8 bladsye van Alwyn Louis Schlebusch se Begrafnisbrief, vanaf Helena Garner, op Fotki geplaas.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut.
Boodskap 15a. DU TOIT Posted by: "Marlene S" [email protected] marlsas111 Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:19 pm (PST)
Ek is op soek na meer informasie oor die volgende:
Cornelius Adolf DU TOIT (circa 1875 - circa 1932) was getroud met Martha Sophia ?
Hulle dogter was:
Helena Dorothea DU TOIT (circa 1895 - circa 1991) en sy was getroud met Johanne Petrus ROUX (Aug 1893 - 4 Sep 1955)
Het enige iemand meer info oor hierdie DU TOIT's?
Many thanks
Marlene Stewart, Wellington New Zealand http://marlsa.tribalpages.com GEERE, GEERTSEMA, SIMPSON and ROUX
Boodskap 16a. Branding Registration/Diere se brandmerke Posted by: "Elmien Wood" [email protected] Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:46 pm (PST)
Rita doen dit weer!
Dit is nou baie interessant! Ek het juis gister vir iemand gesê dat ek so jammer is ek het nie die stories wat my pa vertel het op band opgeneem nie.
Een van die goed is juis die brandmerke van vee. Ek het seker tussen my notas so 'n stukkie papier waarop die brandmerke aangedui is, maar dit sal wonderlik wees as ek so 'n registrasie in die hande kon kry.
Nou het Rita so iets uitgegrawe vir Natal. Rita, word illustrasies van die merke ingesluit?
Volgens wat ek kan onthou het my pa gesê dat benewens die brandmerk het my oupa se vee ook 'n kepie uit die oor gehad.
Sou so 'n merk aan 'n persoon toegeken word, of moes 'n mens opnuut registreer as jy van woonplek verander?
My oupa het as jong man in Noord-Natal gebly, maar dit was polities toe deel van die ZAR. Daarna het hy plase in die Vrystaat gehad. Weet iemand van 'n register van brandmerke in die Vrystaat?
Groete Elmien
NATAL ALMANAC 1905 Branding Registration ( Diere se brandmerke vir verskillende area's in Natal )
Boodskap 16b. Re: Branding Registration/Diere se brandmerke (vir Elmien Wood) Posted by: "Charlie Els" [email protected] charlieels Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:19 pm (PST)
Elmien,
Dit was algemene gebruik waar ek grootgeword het dat die boere hulle beeste brand; my pa het 'n brandyster gehad met 'n "E" op, wat dan op die bees se linkerboud gebrand was. Die skaaplammetjies is gemerk met 'n sny of snye in die oortjies; my pa se merk was 'n "swaelstert" in die linkeroor ('n "V" uit die punt van die oor) en 'n "winkelhaak" in die regteroor ('n reghoek-sny uit die agterkant van die oor). Die bure het elk hulle eie brand- en oormerke gehad en almal het dit geken. As daar 'n verdwaalde skaap by ons aankom is hy uitgeken as Oom Piet Swart sin of Stoffel Lombard sin aan sy merk. Die merke is na my beste wete nêrens geregistreer nie; dit was maar 'n stilswyende ooreenkoms tussen bure. Die merke is streng ge-eer; niemand sou durf jou merk gebruik en vir hom toe-eien nie.
Groete, CHARLIE
Boodskap 17a. Re: BRINK-GESLAGSREGISTER Posted by: "Elmien Wood" [email protected] Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:46 pm (PST)
Johan
Kan jy vir my jou bankbesonderhede stuur sodat ek die geld kan inbetaal vir die Brinkboek? Die totaal is dan R210?
Groete Elmien
Boodskap 18. Dood van pa Posted by: "Annaretha Smitsdorff" [email protected] asmitsdorff Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:16 pm (PST)
My pa, Johann Christiaan Janse van Vuuren gebore 28 Mei 1924, is Donderdag 17 Januarie 2008 oorlede. Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3071
Datum: Sunday, January 20, 2008
Daar is 10 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: Branding Registration/Diere se brandmerke (vir Elmien Wood) From: Dirk Bloem
1b. Re: Branding Registration/Diere se brandmerke (vir Elmien Wood) From: Hetta Scholtz
2. Re : [SA-Gen] REAKSIE OP DIE VAN RENSBURGS VAN ARUNDEL From: MontXsuZ-point-ca
3a. VAN RENSBURG From: Annelie Els
4. Re : [SA-Gen] 150 Jaar From: MontXsuZ-point-ca
5a. ADJUDANT SUPERNUMERAIR BY DE BURGERCAVALLERIE From: Johan van Breda
5b. Re: ADJUDANT SUPERNUMERAIR BY DE BURGERCAVALLERIE From: [email protected]
6. Jammer!!!!!!!! From: Elmien Wood
7. LINK VIR COLESBERG EN RENSBURG SIDING From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
8. Colesberg en van Rensburg From: Louis Olivier Boodskap 1a. Re: Branding Registration/Diere se brandmerke (vir Elmien Wood) Posted by: "Dirk Bloem" [email protected] dirkbloem Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:28 pm (PST)
Dagse almal wat oor diermerke praat.
Sover dit my kennis strek is daar wel so 'n register. My skoonvader het ook sy eie merk. Deesdae vervang hulle dit met tatoeering in die lip of oor. Hierdie merke is ook geregistreer by die telers vereniging. Ek sal die registrasie besonderhede by hom kry en dan op die lys plaas.
Groete uit 'n nat en drukkende Potchefstroom
Dirk Bloem 0836446180
Boodskap 1b. Re: Branding Registration/Diere se brandmerke (vir Elmien Wood) Posted by: "Hetta Scholtz" [email protected] hester_scholtz Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:23 pm (PST)
Lyslede
Huidiglik is daar 'n wet, die Wet op Diere-identifikasie, wat brandmerke ens verpligtend maak. Meer inligting is by die volgende webwerwe te vind. http://www.info.gov.za/gazette/acts/2002/a6-02.pdf http://www.nda.agric.za/docs/AAPS/Legislation/Animal%20ID%20Act/Animal%20ID% 20REgulations%20July%202003.pdf http://www.nda.agric.za/Vetweb/Animal%20Disease/AD_Strock_Id/AI_Information.pdf
Die laaste inligtingstuk bevat ook prentjies en diagramme van hoe die diere gemerk moet word.
Voorheen was daar 'n veediefstalwet (1959?, 1962) wat brandmerke hanteer het, maar die brandmerk was nie verpligtend soos nou nie. Die register word deur die Registrateur van Veebrandmerke gehou.
Groete Hetta Scholtz, Rooihuiskraal
Boodskap 2. Re : [SA-Gen] REAKSIE OP DIE VAN RENSBURGS VAN ARUNDEL Posted by: "MontXsuZ-point-ca" [email protected] montxsuz Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:54 pm (PST)
Hallo Berna
Dankie vir die fotos. Ek sal dit by my versameling plaas.
Jammer vir enige misverstand, maar behalwe vir die Riversdale/Mosselbaai area dra ek ongelukkig egter nie kennis van die Janse van Rensburg plase aan die Kaapse kant van die Oranje Rivier nie. Ek het slegs my onmiddelike familie se plase nagevors, die lê tussen Bethulie en Boshof aan die Vrystaat kant - en dit was vir my moeilik genoeg.
Daarom dat ek jou die skakel gegee het na die Chief Surveyor General se webwerf toe, miskien help dit. Oor die algemeen is daar meer inligting beskikbaar oor Kaapse plase in elk geval, maar ongelukkig verskyn die plaas wat jy soek nie in Jean le Roux se "Bewaarders van Ons Erfenis" publikasies nie - seker te laat - het vinnig vir jou opgekyk in Deel 17, Colesberg.
Indien jy belangstel stuur ek graag vir jou die fotos van die paar grafte van jou "Nicolaas Albertus" se nasate wat ek het, die is in elk geval by eggsa.org ook opgelaai. Laat weet maar na my private posadres toe.
Tussen hakies, ek het lanklaas daardie woord "algar" gehoor. My pa se familie het dit ook gebruik. Dit laat my nogal terugdink. Hulle het ook van die Kolonie en die Grootrivier gepraat. En daar was 'n hele klomp ander woorde ...
Groete Christo in Vancouver
Ns. Nog 'n bron wat ek geraadpleeg het is die Vrystaatse Konsentrasiekamp rekords. My familie van daardie geslagte is almal deur die kampe. So ook seker "Nicolaas Albertus" se nasate wie in die Vrystaat was. Plaasname staan daarin opgeteken.
Boodskap 3a. VAN RENSBURG Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:26 pm (PST)
Hallo Mede-geners,
Ek vra GROOT asseblief hulp by die van Rensburg navorsers.
Sy is my " 3rd great grandmother "
Ek is op soek na die dame se ouers.
Elizabeth (Elsje) Sophia VAN RENSBURG * (c. 1830`s) sterf 1921 (foto van haar in die Badenhorstboek) x Adriaan Lodewikus BADENHORST (L.W. ek het al sy info uit die Badenhorstboek gekry. )
SAG VOL 9 pg 352 e3 Elsje Sophia * 30.8.1830 = Graaff-Reinet 21.11.1830 e6 Elsje Sophia * 30.8.1834 = Graaff-Reinet 21.11 1834
Hier is `n fout met die twee inskrywings TENSY daar twee dogters is wat dieselfde naam gedra het en op dieselfde dag gedoop is maar drie jaar uitmekaar.
BVD. Groetnis Annelie Pretoria
Boodskap 4. Re : [SA-Gen] 150 Jaar Posted by: "MontXsuZ-point-ca" [email protected] montxsuz Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:36 pm (PST)
Hallo Hennie
Ek het nie juis iets om by te dra nie, behalwe ou fotos van die kerk, tot 50+ jaar oud. Daarvan het julle seker genoeg.
Maar laat weet as julle 'n gedenk-webwerf opstel of iets. As oud-Kroonstader in die verte, sal ek belangstel.
Ek lees juis op die oomblik die outobiografie van 'n bekende oud-Kroonstadse skryfster (Antjie Krog), en kom dalk nog voor Oktober op die dorp aan.
Groete Christo
------Christo van Rensburg Vancouver, BC, Canada En belle Colombie Britannique ------
Boodskap 5a. ADJUDANT SUPERNUMERAIR BY DE BURGERCAVALLERIE Posted by: "Johan van Breda" [email protected] cjvanbreda Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:02 am (PST)
ADJUDANT SUPERNUMERAIR BY DE BURGERCAVALLERIE
Op 20 7 1795 word Arend Josias van Breda aangestel tot bogenoemde rang.
Wat was dit?
Hoop iemand kan my help.
By voorbaat dank.
Groete,
Johan van Breda Kaapstad.
Boodskap 5b. Re: ADJUDANT SUPERNUMERAIR BY DE BURGERCAVALLERIE Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] newabbott Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:16 am (PST)
Hallo johan,
Normaalweg sou ek dit interpreteer dat hy "oortollig" verklaaris, nl. "supernumerary" op sijn Engels. As jy uit ander bronne seker is dat hy wel aangestel is, kan dit wees dat hy aangestel vir 'n spesiale geleentheid, waar meer mense as warvoor gewoonlik voorsiening gemaak is aangestel word. Byvoorbeeld: Daar is gewoonlik 500 Offisiere en manskappe in die mag. Nou is dit oorlog en nog 3000 word aangestel.
Ek sou in elkgeval stem vir die eerste betekenis.
Groete, Henry
Boodskap 6. Jammer!!!!!!!! Posted by: "Elmien Wood" [email protected] Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:16 am (PST)
Ons het nounet gehoor ons moenie net die "reply"-knoppie druk nie en daar doen ek dit sowaar!!!!
JAMMER. Groete Elmien
Boodskap 7. LINK VIR COLESBERG EN RENSBURG SIDING Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:20 am (PST)
Hallo André
Daardie link is as volg:
http://www.colesberginfo.co.za/history.html Dit is soortgelyk aan die ene van die Aussies wat jy self opgestel het, nie die kerkraad foto van 1966 by nie. Hierdie gaan oor die Engelse en die Generaal French.
Dis 'n plesier, die fotos. Ek hoor wat jy sê omtrent die dam en plaas.
Wonder of daar net een Arundel was, maar julle sal seker beter weet as ek.
Rustige Sondag
Vriendelike groete
En aan Louis Hurn
Dankie vir daardie ou masjien se naam, so genoteer en gaat dit nie vergeet nie.
Mooi dag vir almal
Berna
Boodskap 8. Colesberg en van Rensburg Posted by: "Louis Olivier" [email protected] Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:39 am (PST)
Berna sover ek kan vasstel is daar drie plekke met die naam Arundel in die Kaapprovinsie een in Natal en drie in die Transvaal. Die in die KP is een naby Bisho die ander naby Fort Beaufort die derde is 'n spoorweghalte. as ek na die kordinate kyk moet die moontlik in die omgewing van die Gariepdam wees ( *Coordinates & Location type:
*Area Type: Spot feature Location Type: Railroad Station
Latitude: -30.93333 Longitude: 25.01667 (Decimal degrees)
Latitude (DMS): 30° 55' 60 S Longitude (DMS): 25° 1' 0 E ) Hoop dit help.Daar i nog een Arundel in Natal en drie in die Transvaal.
Louis Linda & Louis Olivier Pretoria 0128031028 [email protected] [email protected] Olivier, Coetzee, Swart, du Plooy Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3072
Datum: Sunday, January 20, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1. Tr. : Re : [SA-Gen] REAKSIE OP DIE VAN RENSBURGS VAN ARUNDEL From: MontXsuZ-point-ca
2a. Re: BESTBIERS From: Annemie Lourens
3a. Re: Dood van pa From: Louis Hurn
4. Re : [SA-Gen] Colesberg en van Rensburg From: MontXsuZ-point-ca
5a. Re: LINK VIR COLESBERG EN RENSBURG SIDING From: sastamouers
5b. Re: LINK VIR COLESBERG EN RENSBURG SIDING From: Janet Melville
6a. Re: REAKSIE OP DIE VAN RENSBURGS VAN ARUNDEL From: Johan Vermeulen
7a. HULP MET NEDERLANDS From: Johan van Breda
7b. Re: HULP MET NEDERLANDS From: Isebelle Krauss
8a. New file uploaded to SAGenealogie From: cgviljoen
9. GESPREKVOERINGE From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
10a. Re: ADJUDANT SUPERNUMERAIR BY DE BURGERCAVALLERIE From: Isebelle Krauss
11a. Re: Bossert SAG1 (vir Chris Bossert) From: [email protected]
11b. Re: Bossert SAG1 (vir Chris Bossert) From: Louis Hurn
12a. Rooigrond Noordwes From: bosschris100
12b. Re: Rooigrond Noordwes From: Jorge Estreux
12c. Re: Rooigrond Noordwes From: [email protected]
12d. Re: Rooigrond Noordwes From: Annelie Els
13. [Koerant] Sunday Tribune 20 Jan 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
14. NEDERLANDS From: Johan van Breda
15. Schellink From: Janet Melville
16a. Re: Guilliam Johannes Oberholster Geb 1816 From: Janet Melville
16b. Re: Guilliam Johannes Oberholster Geb 1816 From: Johan
17. Johannes Francois Petrus Oberholster From: Elizabeth Oberholster
18. Doopregisters van kerke From: Hendrik Louw AbsaMail Boodskap 1. Tr. : Re : [SA-Gen] REAKSIE OP DIE VAN RENSBURGS VAN ARUNDEL Posted by: "MontXsuZ-point-ca" [email protected] montxsuz Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:49 am (PST)
Berna
Korreksie, ek het voorheen dalk vir die verkeerde plaas in "Bewaarders" gesoek. Dis laat in die nag. Daar is nie 'n verwyssing na "Arundel" nie, maar heelwat Rietfonteine in Distrik Colesberg. Een is suid van Colesberg, soos per jou oorpronklike email, naamlik
Distrik Colesberg : Wyk Onder-Seekoeirivier (net suid van Colesberg) Rietfontein (2) Botha, Philippus Johannes ( 1795 - ) (Eienaar ten tye van Bewaarders se snapshot (1850?). Hou in gedagte dat plaasname baie verander met tyd.).
Suid van Colesberg is definitief ver van die dam af. :-) Taaiboslaagte sien ek nie, wel 'n Taaibosfontein, naby bgnd Rietfontein.
Rietfontein
Kruger, Jacobus Hendrik
(-) Rietfontein Kruger, Jacobus Hendrik (-)
Hoop dit help
------Christo van Rensburg Vancouver, BC, Canada En belle Colombie Britannique ------Janse van Rensburg X Cronje; Barnard X Schoeman Herselman X Kriel; Wright X Breytenbach (1876 Bethulie; 1883 Philippolis; 1879 Kareedouw?; 1889 Wepener) http://www.montxsuz.ca/familie/ ------
Boodskap 2a. Re: BESTBIERS Posted by: "Annemie Lourens" [email protected] annemielourens Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:05 am (PST)
Goeiedag Berna
Verskriklik baie dankie vir jou belangstelling. Ongelukkig is die inligting op die webwerf , "nie my webtuiste nie". Ek het al herhaaldelik versoek dat dit verwyder moet word, die inlgitng daarop is baie verouderd en totaal en al foutief. Ek het aan die begin van my navorsing die inlgting gedeel en dit is op 'n webwerf geplaas.
Ek deel graag my register, maar verstaanbaar selektief. Ek het oor al die families wat jy vir my inligting gestuur baie volledige inligting ek sal dit van die lys af vir jou stuur. Jammer dat dit so lank geneem het om te antwoord. Malmesbury is verlam deur kragonderbreukings.
Groete Annemie Lourens
Boodskap 3a. Re: Dood van pa Posted by: "Louis Hurn" [email protected] ljhurn Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:09 am (PST)
Hallo Annaretha,
Innige simpatie van my en my familie en sterkte met julle verlies.
Groete uit 'n baie warm Durban.
Louis Hurn
Boodskap 4. Re : [SA-Gen] Colesberg en van Rensburg Posted by: "MontXsuZ-point-ca" [email protected] montxsuz Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:24 am (PST)
Hallo Louis
Mooi skoot. Ek het die koordinate in Googlemaps en Google Earth ingegooi uit nuuskiergheid, en dit lyk vir my omtrent net mooi waar Bewaarders se Rietfontein, suid van Colesberg is (sien my vorige email). Google Maps wys selfs Arundel op die kaart. Dis op die oog af so 60km van die dam af,
Groete Christo
------Christo van Rensburg Vancouver, BC, Canada En belle Colombie Britannique ------Janse van Rensburg X Cronje; Barnard X Schoeman Herselman X Kriel; Wright X Breytenbach (1876 Bethulie; 1883 Philippolis; 1879 Kareedouw?; 1889 Wepener) http://www.montxsuz.ca/familie/ ------
Boodskap 5a. Re: LINK VIR COLESBERG EN RENSBURG SIDING Posted by: "sastamouers" [email protected] sastamouers Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:10 am (PST)
Hallo Berna
Ja, daardie is van my navorsing wat hulle gebruik, maar hulle gee geen erkenning nie. Dit is ook 'n foto wat hulle van my webwerf gesny en geplak het.
Groete Andre v R
Boodskap 5b. Re: LINK VIR COLESBERG EN RENSBURG SIDING Posted by: "Janet Melville" [email protected] jmelvillexsinetcoza Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:51 am (PST)
Sover ek weet is daar net een Arundel, dit is n "siding" net voor Colesberg op pad van Middelburg, Kaap na Colesberg
Janet Melville
Posbus 15215 Emerald Hill PE 6011 083 642 7744 H/Faks: 041 3792077 Researching: van der Merwe, Melville, Rudman, William Reynolds, Van Lingen and East Cape families
Boodskap 6a. Re: REAKSIE OP DIE VAN RENSBURGS VAN ARUNDEL Posted by: "Johan Vermeulen" [email protected] johanvermsa Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:17 am (PST)
Berna,
Andre is reg.
Arundel is gelee tussen Colesberg en Noupoort, ongeveer 25 km. vanaf Colesburg aan die regterkant van die N9.
Groete
Johan.
Boodskap 7a. HULP MET NEDERLANDS Posted by: "Johan van Breda" [email protected] cjvanbreda Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:22 am (PST)
Wat beteken die volgende Nederlands in ou agtiende eeuse dokumente?
"In kennisse van mij."
"scholarchen" ook gespel "scholargen"
Hoop iemand kan my help.
By voorbaat dank.
Groete,
Johan van Breda Kaapstad
Boodskap 7b. Re: HULP MET NEDERLANDS Posted by: "Isebelle Krauss" [email protected] iekrauss Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:26 am (PST)
Suur asseblief die volledige sin sodat ons kan sin maak out die sin....lgemene vertaling van I kennisse mij : volgens my kennis: of kennisname scholarchen het 2 betekenisse: scholarch is n skolier, dus moet dit verband hou met leerlinge of skolastiese .....??
Ek moet die sinsverband sien on korrek te kan vertaal....as dit ou SA inskrywings is is dit soms in heel verkeerde verband gebruik agv. van die Duits/Nederlands/Vlaamse invloed aan die Kaap....en moet n sg. woord in baie gevalle gesoek word vir korrekte sinvole vertaling.
Isebelle E Krauss *Lloyd.
Boodskap 8a. New file uploaded to SAGenealogie Posted by: "cgviljoen" [email protected] frost_clan Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:59 am (PST)
Beste Hendrik
Dis nou 'n goeie stukkie werk.
Groete Susan
Susan Viljoen Alberton, South Africa/Suid-Afrika Licensed Scrap-ther-a-PT Memory Healing Practitioner Licence no 11/010/16
Boodskap 9. GESPREKVOERINGE Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:00 am (PST)
Hi daar Christo, Louis Olivier
Ja ou Christo ek is lady chatterbox. Ek het maar platteland groot geword jong. Ek het geboer tussen die oumense, nou nog. Ek hou van tale. Ek hou van skryf. Dis maar enkele van my vele passies. Dit is lekker as die groepe so saam kan gesels en inligting uitruil, dis waarvoor dit bedoel is, dan nie....!
Ek het nouself op daardie link gaan kyk Christo en Louis; ja daar is heelwat "Arundel's" en ek sal eers 100% moet seker maak presies hoe, waar, wat en wanneer ens. Die webwerf wil nie vir my die foto's van die area/plase wys op die oomblik nie, sal later weer probeer. Ek gaan nie my naam met 'n plank slaan en oningelig stry dalk voor ek nie al die detail deeglik nagevors het nie.
Ek sal baie beïndruk en bly wees met daardie foto's, groot asseblief Christo. Ek sal dit waardeer. Ek sal nou maar eers by die 80 jarige oom moet probeer vasstel in watter rigting was dié Arundel wat ek soek. Hy het by die mense gekuier as jong man. Met sy geheue en verstand skort daar niks tot op hede. Ons stap maar vereers af van die punt totdat ek meer lig op die saak kan werp. Noupoort wil 'n klokkie by my lui.
Tot 'n volgende keer.
Berna
Boodskap 10a. Re: ADJUDANT SUPERNUMERAIR BY DE BURGERCAVALLERIE Posted by: "Isebelle Krauss" [email protected] iekrauss Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:40 am (PST)
Die terme se oorsprong is gedurende die Romeinse tyd: en word dus in verskeie Europiese tale oder meer Duits gebruik...maar die Nederlandse woord Het beslis met die soldaterange te doen, maar weereens moet ek weet wat die sin is.... n Supernumerair was of n soldaat wat die plek ingeneem het van n gewonde of gestorwe soldaat,of n soldaat om die soldate syfers in n groep vol te maak...dus n soldaat sonder rang of kommisie. maar het ook n ander betekenis: n Openbare (Public Officer) wat verskeie magistrate bygestaan het..... dus sou ek sonder om die dokument te sien dit vertaal as n soldaat wat instaan, by die Burgerkavalrie.... Dit is heel makliker om met vertaalwerk te help as ek die dokument of gehele sin kan lees.... Ek bied belsis nie aan om massas vertaling toe doen nie maar sal help wanneer ek die tyd het....
Isebelle E Krauss *Lloyd.
Boodskap 11a. Re: Bossert SAG1 (vir Chris Bossert) Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] bosschris100 Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:56 am (PST)
Baie Dankie
Almal het direk gestuur, ek moes seker dit aangeteken het
Ek waardeer
Jou hulp
Chris
Boodskap 11b. Re: Bossert SAG1 (vir Chris Bossert) Posted by: "Louis Hurn" [email protected] ljhurn Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:32 am (PST)
Hallo almal,
Wil nou nie snaaks klink nie, maar ek is ook afstammeling van Bossert en sal ook die inligting wat aan Chris gestuur word waardeer. Is daar moontlikheid om op die lys te antwoord, of is dit dalk 'n groot klomp data wat dit moeilik maak?
Dankie en groete Louis Hurn
Boodskap 12a. Rooigrond Noordwes Posted by: "bosschris100" [email protected] bosschris100 Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:17 am (PST)
Baie Dankie vir almal se hulp met die Bossert Stamboom Sover weet ek dat die 1e Bossert in SA was Christian bossert Matroos in 1785 matroos van Sakse(area) Brandis (Dorp) in Duitsland naby Leipzig Nogal nuuskierig om die skip se naam te weet en die familie verbintenis in sakse Ons weet ook dat daar in 1920 'n Hendrik Bossert uit Nederland hier aangekom het die gebruik van familiename Christoffel Jan, Jan Christoffel, Christiaan Frederick en Frederick Christiaan maak dit op die oomblik moeilik om alles 100% by mekaar te sit, maar ek is seker dit sal binnekort kan gebeur Om terug te kom na Rooigrond ek sal dit waardeer as enigeiemand wat informasie, fotos, uitleg het, dit met my kan deel aangesien 'n redelike gedeelte van my oorlede vader daar plaas gevind het. nogmaals baie dankie vir almal se hulp sover
Chris (christo) Bossert
Boodskap 12b. Re: Rooigrond Noordwes Posted by: "Jorge Estreux" [email protected] jorgeestreux Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:47 am (PST)
Hallo Chris,
Die enigste wat ek kry is Rooigrond, aanleg met Poskantoor, oos van Mafeking, vroeer Vrywillegersrust en Heliopolis en regeringsetel van die Republiek Gosen. Ek verbee3l my egter dat my oom baie jare terug op Rooigrond geboer het. Hierdie Rooigrond was in die Thabazimbi area (ek was nog baie jonk!)
Gert
Boodskap 12c. Re: Rooigrond Noordwes Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] bosschris100 Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:13 am (PST)
Hallo Gert
Rooigrond is naby Mafeking, Daaw was blykbaar ‘n Bossert wat die verkeershoof op Mafeking was.
Ek het gister op bogenoemde webtuiste ingegaan ‘’ http://sagns.dac.gov.za’’ maar kon op die bladsy ‘’ inzoom’’ nie
Dankie
Chris
Boodskap 12d. Re: Rooigrond Noordwes Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:14 am (PST)
Hallo Mense,
Rooigrond is `n KLEIN !!! plekkie op die pad tussen Mafeking en Lichtenburg op die Route 503. Ek en Manlief het jaar voor laas daar verby gegaan nadat ek my oupa se graf in Mafeking gaan soek en afgeneem het. In die familiebybel staan dat hy op Roddegrond gebore is. Sy doop inskrywing is in die Lichtenburgse Hervormdekerkboek. Ek verbeel my daar was nie eens `n kerk nie anders sou ons dit afgeneem het vir FOTKI.
Groetnis Annelie Pretoria.
Boodskap 13. [Koerant] Sunday Tribune 20 Jan 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:41 am (PST)
Dag vriende,
GEBOORTES:-HENRY Sean & Jane 'n seun Jordan Sean * 15/01/2008 .Boetie vir Shannon.
MAIER WHITFIELD Taryn & Gregor 'n seun Jamie *13/01/2008. Maatjie vir Dylan . Kleinkind vir Denzil & Lydia.
MCMASTER nee STONE Russell & Tamara 'n seun David Hamilton * ? in Parklands.
VERJAARSDAG :- TOZER David 50 jaar. Van ouer.
VERLOWING:- ALLSOPP Valerie & Robert se dogter Clare aan Ben, seun van Chris HILL & Maureen SANDERS.
HARTLEY - SCWERDTFEGER John & Barbara se Kathryn (Chooks) aan Tom van Kaapstad.
HOLMES Seanton & Flick se ouer dogter Jo-Anne aan Gibberthon, seun van Whu"rner & Sandra WYNNE.
MARTIN David & Marion se dogter Melissa aan Marcel, seun van Mike & Maureen ROUX.
McLAVERTY ~ SMITH Patrick, Dee en Richie gee bekend die verlowing van Lauren aan Cullen, seun van Wayne & Roxanne.
NAUDE ~ JOST Patrick aan Jackie.
REES - Sandi & Jim WELLS se oudste dogter Gaynor REES aan Hansie , seun van Hans & Jane SWANEPOEL.
SLAVIN ~ SUNJKA John & Lyn se enigste dogter Shelley aan Dom, jongste seun van Ivan en Pat.
SMIT John & Jean se jonger seun Paul aan Jessamy, jonger dogter van Brendon aan Judy HAWLEY.
TROUE:-HEAN ~ WILLIAMS Brad x 19/01/2008 Olivia . Geluk van Ma, Ron, Michelle, Juan,Josh en Liam.
DOOD:- BAILEY May .Ma ,skoonma en ouma. Memorial by Kingdom Hall of Jehovah Wittnesses New Germany 26/01/2008 om 11 vm. Ingesit deur SHANLEY'S 0312057644.
BALLINGTON Lorraine Madge † 17/01/2008. x † Hardy .Ma van Rosemarie en Walter SMITH en † Ross. Begrafnis op 22/01/2008 om 11vm by Berea Presbyterian Durban.
BOWLEY-MANNING nee FOURIE Cecelia x Des.Ma ,skoonma en ouma van Tracy ,Michael & Rebecca. Memorial 22/01/2008 om 3nm by Malvern Congregational Church.Malvern. Ingesit deur SHANLEY'S 031 2057644.
GOURLEY Ian Stuart x Rosanne . Pa, skoonpa en oupa van Garnet, Sue, Rachel, Simon en Naomi, John, Nadine en Matthew; George, Liane, Amberley en Luke.Memorial by Grace Family Church in Umhlanga Rocks om 2.30 nm op 25/01/ 2008 Skakkel Kerk by 0315620338 of > [email protected] <.
LITTLE Elma C † 14/01/2008 Sielsgenoot van Adoro. Simpatie aan Avril en Familie.
LIVERSAGE nee BLACK Marioth Deborah "Massey" † 18/01/2008 x Raymond. Ma van Kerry, Bobby-Lyn, Nicole en Jerome. Stiefma van Trevor en Allen. Ouma van 4 .
MOODY Darryl † 16/01/2008 x Mandy. Pa van Leighton en Lana.
MONTOCCIO Jacques Antoine (Monty) x Dorothy. Pa van Bridgitte en Desmond, skoonpa van Marc en Jenny. Oupa van Dominic, Bryce, Sheldon en Emma. Requiem Mass by The Sacred Heart Katolieke Kerk ,Montclair. Ingesit deur BELL Funerals.
NARRAWAY Barbara † 17/01/2008 Ma van Russell, Lydia en Moraig, skoonma van Mark , Angelo, Sandy en ouma van Shanél, Biascia, Brigitte en Tamika . Diens by Kingdom Hall of Johavahs Witnesses New Germany 27/01/2008 om 3nm. Privaat Memorial tee.
SANDERS Edith Florence † 18/01/2008. Liefde van Carol, Kevin, Sandy, Candice ,Mark en Jacquie.
TATHEN Mark David 27/01/1974 ------13/01/2008 (33 ) .Van Ma, Cindy en Seth.; Pa , Faith en die seuns.
WALMSLEY Kevin James .Pa van Chanel en Dodie . Diens by DOVES Greyville 22/01/2008 om 2 nm.
WILLIAMS Daphne Hazel .Begrafnis by Life Church Amanzimtoti 21/01/2008 om 11 vm. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
MEMORIAM:- BLACK John x Shirley. Pa van Gary, en Justine skoonpa van Val.
DAVID Daryl Kevin . Van Ouers ,Ian, Nesa, Caleb en Jayden.
DUDLEY Peter † 21/01/2007. Pa van Dawn x Peter. Oupa van Jenna.
HISCOCK Shaun Kevin . 20 jaar dood nou.
HUTT Shaun 1971----2004. Altyd in my hart van Julz. en McNAMARA familie.
KRIEL Koos † 19/01/1992. Pa van Koos, Thora en Maryna en familie.
LACON-ALLIN Cheryl Ann 11/03/1969------20/01/2003 .Dogter van Jacuri & Neville BAKER. Ook van Brett, Tristan en familie.
NAGLE John Bede voorheen van Sydney Austria † 17/01/2006 .Metgesel van Joan.
Boodskap 14. NEDERLANDS Posted by: "Johan van Breda" [email protected] cjvanbreda Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:02 am (PST)
Dankie Henry en Isebelle vir die hulp met die Nederlandse vertalings.
Isebelle die volledige sinne waaruit die woorde kom is :-
In kennisse van mij is onderaan verskillende soorte dokumente gebruik en dan onderteken, byvoorbeeld.
In kennisse van mij.
[Geteken] Jan Mahieu
Secrets.
Op welkers inhouden gelet zijnde, is goedgevonden dat hetselve sal worden gesteld in handen der Heeren scholarchen deeser plaatse, om sig op leer en leeven van den supplt. in deesen te informeeren, mitsgrs. of denselven de vereijschte bequaamheeden tot het schoolhouden besit, ten eijnde deese Regeering daarop te kunnen dienen van haar berigt en consideratien.
Aldus Geresolveert en G'arresteerd in de Vergaderinge van scholarchen aan Cabo de goede Hoop, den 27 Maart 1782.
Wordende dienvolgens de gezegde Wachtmeester Arend Josias van Breda, aangesteld tot adjudant supernumerair by de Burgercavallerie waarvan aan den Burgerkrijgsraad kennisse zal worden gegeeven.
Henry, ja die aanstelling is gemaak toe die Kaap "reggemaak" het vir die Eerste Britse Besetting in 1795 ! In die lig hiervan maak jou verklaring dan sin.
Groete,
Johan van Breda
Boodskap 15. Schellink Posted by: "Janet Melville" [email protected] jmelvillexsinetcoza Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:47 am (PST)
Kan iemand help met Johannes Joseph Schellink geb 1828 oorlede 9.3.1878 arriver 1850 van Holland. Oorlede te Darling. Hy trou Therese Louisa Blomeken geb Porterborne, Duitsland. Haar S/K gee haar ouers, syne gee nie sy ouers nie, alhoewel hy van Holland kom is daar n moontlikheid dat hy voorheen van 'n ander land gekom het.
Dankie Janet Melville.
Posbus 15215 Emerald Hill PE 6011 083 642 7744 H/Faks: 041 3792077 Researching: van der Merwe, Melville, Rudman, William Reynolds, Van Lingen and East Cape families
Boodskap 16a. Re: Guilliam Johannes Oberholster Geb 1816 Posted by: "Janet Melville" [email protected] jmelvillexsinetcoza Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:47 am (PST)
Hier is wat ek het oor Guilliam Johannes
Ek ruil graag inligting met jou Hy is waarskynlik op die plaas begrawe
e6 Giliam Johannes *07.09.1816 =Graaff-Reinet 07.10. 1816 ?Smithfield, dist Herbert 08.05.1887 × Liebenberg,Jacomina Elizabeth Johanna *01.02.1828 =Graaff-Reinet 03.03.1828 ?dist Hopetown; 37jr 13. 06.1865 {d.v. Liebenberg,Albertus Johannes *06.10.1793 & Viljoen,Jacomina Elizabeth Adriana *19.08.1798} ×2 1870 ?? met Willers,Anna Catharina *1832 ?plaas te Doornfontein, Barkly-Wes; 69j6m 06.12.1901 {d.v. Wilders,Salomon Petrus *1803 & Fourie,Anna Catharina *26.12.1808} f1 Guillame Johannes *Kaap Kolonie 1846 ? Mierkraal dist Herbert; 53jr 10mde 21.07.1899 : arbeider - hy was tweedens getroud met E.M. Gouws weduwee Rodons?? - geen kinders van die 2de huwelik × Van der Merwe,Martha Catharina *Hopetown 09.07.1849 =Richmond 23.12.1849 ?haar eie huis; 29j 11.04. 1879 {d.v. Van der Merwe,Godlieb Johannes *26.11.1823 & Swiegers,Martha Catharina *1824} ×2 1880 ?? met Snyders,Johanna Sophia Magdalena *?? 1850 g1 Giliam Johannes *03.02.1868 =Hopetown 05.04.1868 g2 Godlieb Johannes *20.06.1870 =Hopetown 17.07.1870 × Harmse,Hester Engela *?? 1870 g3 Albertus Johannes *23.05.1872 =Hopetown ? 19.08.1955 × Swiegers,Alida Johanna *ook 1875 04.04.1874 ?11.05.1936 {d.v. Swiegers,Willem Petrus *22.02.1846 & Van Wyk,Catharina Maria Wilhelmina *00.08.1850} g4 Pieter Coenraad Frederik *1874 : nie op sy pa se S/K g5 Jan Valetyn *1876 g6 Martha Catharina *1878 g7 Magdalena Margaretha Catharina *?? 1880 g8 Lourens Johannes *?? 1882 g9 Barend Godlieb Johannes *?? 1884 g10 Jacomina Elizabeth *?? 1886 a1b4c9d1e6f1g11 g11 Johannes Stephanus Daniel *?? 1890 g12 Hendrik Stefanus *?? 1892 g13 Petrus Hendrik Lourens *?? 1894 f2 Elizabeth Alida *?? 1848 f3 Hester Cornelia *?? 1850 f4 Albertin Johannes *?? 1852 f5 Barend Godlieb Gerhardus *?? 1854 f6 Johannes Francis Petrus *?? 1858 f7 Petrus Salomon *?? 1872 : woon te Blaauwboschdrift, Douglas f8 Willem Petrus *?? 1874 : gevangene te Tokai 1902
Janet Melville Posbus 15215 Emerald Hill PE 6011 083 642 7744 H/Faks: 041 3792077 Researching: van der Merwe, Melville, Rudman, William Reynolds, Van Lingen and East Cape families
16b. Re: Guilliam Johannes Oberholster Geb 1816 Posted by: "Johan" [email protected] oobee25 Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:11 am (PST)
Janet
Die Jan Valentyn (later as Valentine bekend)(g5) was my oupa grootjie en is in 1878 gebore, Pieter Coenraad Frederik(g6) was sy tweeling broer en is in 1879 in 'n ongeluk dood ongv 1 jaar oud , Martha Catharina (g7) is in 1874 gebore. Na die tweeling broer se dood is hy in Hopetown as 'n weeskind (my oupagrootjie JV het geglo sy pa is oorlede voor sy geboorte maar die ouman het hulle verlaat met sy 2e troue) deur 'n familie Bloem grootgemaak.
Hierdie info is ook so verkeerd in die Van Der Merwe boek.
Groete
Johan
Boodskap 17. Johannes Francois Petrus Oberholster Posted by: "Elizabeth Oberholster" [email protected] lizoberholster Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:16 am (PST)
Liewe Lysteraars
Baie dankie aan almal wat reeds op my vorige navraag rondom Guilliam Johannes Petrus Oberholster geb 1816 geantwoord het. Dit het egter net gedien om my verder deurmekaar te maak! Dit los my sonder 'n Voorvader!!!
Die laaste persoon wat ek ongetwyfeld kan koppel is Johannes Francois Petrus Oberholster, gebore 13 Junie 1865 te Distrik Albany, gesterf 27 November 1950, en begrawe te Bucklands (Dist Douglas). Hy is getroud met Catharina Petronella Cristina Victor, gebore 5 Januarie 1880 te Distrik Albany, oorlede 17 Januarie 1955 en begrawe te Bucklands.
Volgens familie rekords (en dit blyk nou verkeerd te wees!) was sy pa Guilliam Johannes Oberholster, gebore 1845.
Hierdie informasie kan moontlik steeds gedeeltelik korrek wees, indien iemand weet van 'n Guilliam Johannes PETRUS Oberholster wat ook in 1845 gebore is??? Of dit nou so is, en of dit heel 'n ander persoon is - ek soek tans 'n voorvader!
Baie dankie aan almal byvoorbaat!
Liz
Boodskap 18. Doopregisters van kerke Posted by: "Hendrik Louw AbsaMail" [email protected] loogkolk Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:50 am (PST)
Ek en van die ander navorsers het verskeie kerke se doopregisters afgeneem, sommige volledig. Ons is besig met nog gemeentes, maar wil graag probeer om 'n excel spreivel met al die inligting daarop terug te gee saam met die foto's wat geneem is, aan die gemeente
Dit gee ons dat die reg om die inligting te transkribeer (dit doen ons oorspronklik in excel) en daarna verwerk ek dit programmaties na gedcom en probeer ook om die families bymekaar te koppel Ek self is al baie ver met NG Kerk Kenhardt 1989-2007 s'n terwyl NG Kerk Citrusdal 1916-1956 s'n so pas klaar gedoen is deur Sarel BURGER (Baie dankie aan Sarel vir die groot werk)
Die eerste gedeelte van Kenhardt en dan Citrsudal se verwerkings is opgelaai op Yahoo. Mede navorsers wat nie toegang het nie, kan enige persoon vra om te help of kontak my en ek stuur met graagte aan. (Die doen is eintlik dat u self die leer moet gaan aflaai, maar as dit vir u onmoontlik is maak ons nog planne, miskien kan ek vir F Greeff vra of hy ook die leers kan dra vir maklike aflaai)
In elk geval, die eintlike versoek is dus, ek soek medewerkers wat bereid is om te help om die foto's te transkribeer tot in die excel spreivel
Enige persoon wat bereid is om te help kan my asb direk kontak by
Nogmaals baie dankie
Hendrik LOUW Kempton Park 082 722 6500
Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3073
Datum: Monday, January 21, 2008
Daar is 17 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Rut Gert de Vries From: Dawie Theron
1b. Re: Rut Gert de Vries From: Dawie Theron
2. Pansegrouw x Du Plooy From: Simon du Plooy
3. Kan nie opgelaaide lêers oop kry nie From: Paul Bosman
4a. Re: LINK VIR COLESBERG EN RENSBURG SIDING From: Anne
5a. Re: Doopregisters van kerke From: Paul Bosman
6a. Rooigrond naby Mafikeng From: Louis Olivier
6b. Re: Rooigrond naby Mafikeng From: Willeen Olivier
7a. RENSBURG SIDING From: sastamouers
7b. Re: RENSBURG SIDING From: sastamouers
8. Re: GOUS/GOUWS/ COERTSEN From: Gert Coertzen
9. Gieljam Johannes Oberholster From: Elizabeth Oberholster
10. Rooigrond ens. From: d.debeer
11. (Koerant) Beeld 21 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
12. Groet From: cgviljoen
13. 'n VRAAG OM TE VRA From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
14a. Momberg From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann Boodskap 1a. Rut Gert de Vries Posted by: "Dawie Theron" [email protected] Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:30 am (PST)
Dalk kan iemand my help. Hierdie voorsaat van my was blykbaar sekretaris van die Vrystaatse Republiek met die uitbreek van die AB, Weet iemand dalk iets van hom af?
Dawie Theron [email protected] P.O. Box 899 Wellington 7654 RSA Tel: +27 21 873 2645 Fax: +27 21 873 5370 Mobile: +27 82 893 2270
Boodskap 1b. Re: Rut Gert de Vries Posted by: "Dawie Theron" [email protected] Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:51 am (PST)
Jammer hier is meer inligting:
Ruth Gerrit de Vries gebore 19/10/1838 te Zaansdijk, Nederland en oorlede in 1909
Getroud met Anna Catherina Klopper (23/9/1851 te Smithfield) oorlede 20 Junie 1886 te Winburg, Schoolplaats.
Ek stel veral belang oor sy rol in die Vrystaatse Republiek.
Dawie Theron [email protected] P.O. Box 899 Wellington 7654 RSA Tel: +27 21 873 2645 Fax: +27 21 873 5370 Mobile: +27 82 893 2270
Boodskap 2. Pansegrouw x Du Plooy Posted by: "Simon du Plooy" [email protected] sjdp1951 Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:46 am (PST)
Goeienaand vir Pansegrouw belangstellendes.
Rondom 1904/5 tree Alida Barendina Hendrina du PLOOY en Jacobus Gustavus PANSEGROUW in die huwelik. Rondom die egpaar enkele vrae in die hoop iemand kan behulpsaam wees.
1 Ek het dat Jacobus Pansegrouw se ouers is Johan Jacob Pansegrouw x Getruida Catharina BOTHA - is haar van korrek?
2. Ek dan ook is hulle kinders se geboortes en huwelike nog kort
Wat ek het is:
2.1 Gertruida Catharina BOTMA x Jozef Johannes de BEER
2.2 Alida Bernardina Hendrina
2.3 Johan Jacob
2.4 Jacobus Stephanus
2.5 Jacobus Gustavus
Kan iemand help om aan te vul.
Simon.
Boodskap 3. Kan nie opgelaaide lêers oop kry nie Posted by: "Paul Bosman" [email protected] paul5016 Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:05 pm (PST)
Naand vriende, Veral Dennis en Paul M
Dis nou al etlike maande wat ek nie lêers wat na SAGen se webwerf opgelaai is kan oop maak nie. Nie deur op die URL te klik nie en selfs al gaan ek na die webwerf en probeer lêers daarvan oopmaak werk dit nie, ek fry die volgende boodskap:
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Boodskap 4a. Re: LINK VIR COLESBERG EN RENSBURG SIDING Posted by: "Anne" [email protected] zafamilyhistory Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:16 pm (PST)
> Posted by: "Janet Melville" [email protected] jmelvillexsinetcoza > Date: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:51 am ((PST)) >Sover ek weet is daar net een Arundel, dit is n "siding" net voor >Colesberg op pad van Middelburg, Kaap na Colesberg
Ja Janet, dis reg. Gedurende die ABO het die Engelse Arundel naby Colesberg gebruik. Die spoorlyn het van Colesberg deur Rensburg na Arundel geloop. Genl. French het in een van sy verslae geskryf dat hy besit van Arundel geneem het en sy hoofkwartier daar gevestig het op 16 Des 1899.
______/\/***\/\______Anne Lehmkuhl Professional researcher specialising in South African historical & genealogical research. Publisher of Bygones & Byways magazine - South African genealogy, history & travel http://www.rupert.net/~lkool/
Boodskap 5a. Re: Doopregisters van kerke Posted by: "Paul Bosman" [email protected] paul5016 Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:17 pm (PST)
Dagsê Hendrik en Sarel
Dankie vir die reuse werk wat julle verrig met die transkribering van die doopregisters. Ek kan glad nie die lêers oop maak nie, nie met ‘n URL of vanaf die webwerf nie. Sal baie graag die inligting wil besigtig.
Ek is tans oa besig met die transkribering van die skeepsjoernaal van die Verster- stamvader. Ek vind dit ongelooflik moeilik, die joernaal is meer as 250 jaar oud, plek- plek baie dof, woorde word ingedruk aan die einde van die reëls en heeltemal afgesny deur die fotograaf hoe verder mens met die boek vorder, So ek sal julle nie nou kan help nie.
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Boodskap 6a. Rooigrond naby Mafikeng Posted by: "Louis Olivier" [email protected] Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:35 pm (PST)
Naand almal
Daar is 'n hele paar plek met die naam van Rooigrond.Dit wil vir my voorkom of die een ter sprake die een op die Lichtenburg Mafikeng pad is. Daar is 'n laerskool gewees (weet nie of dit nog bestaan nie) en ook die Rooigrond gevangenis waar ET aangehou was.Daar is sover my kennis strek geen kerk gewees nie en het die mense van kerke op Mafikeng en Slurry gebruik gemaak.Rooigrond is by die voormalige Bophuthatswana in gelyf gewees by die se onafhanklikheid.As ek reg kan onthou is daar 'n begraafplaas op die Rooigrond Itsosengpad was maar is nie heelte maal seker nie.
Louis
-- Linda & Louis Olivier Pretoria 0128031028 [email protected] [email protected] Olivier, Coetzee, Swart, du Plooy
Boodskap 6b. Re: Rooigrond naby Mafikeng Posted by: "Willeen Olivier" [email protected] willempie5 Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:54 pm (PST)
More almal,
Daar was in Junie/Julie laas jaar 'n koerantartikel op die gesprekslys van Herman Redelinghuys -ek dink dit was 'n Beeld artikel wat Elizabeth opgesit het. Oom Herman was vir 'n paar jaar, insluitende die vroeë '30s 'n onderwyser (of die enigste onderwyser?) op Rooigornd. Ek het hom gebel om te hoor of hy enigiets spesifiek oor my de Jagers onthou, maar behalwe dat hy onthou hulle was daar, en dat daar 'n hele klomp de Jagertjies deur die skool is, kon hy niks verder onthou nie. Hy was al oud, maar sy verstand was nog helder. As julle dink dit gaan help, en spesifieke vrae het, kan julle hom weer in die hande probeer kry, ek het nie baie gesukkel nie. Die artikel moet nog op SAGen se argiewe wees :-).
Willeen Willeen Olivier Rooihuiskraal Kotzé, van Wyk, Olivier, Bosman, en al hulle voorgeslagte ...
Boodskap 7a. RENSBURG SIDING Posted by: "sastamouers" [email protected] sastamouers Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:20 pm (PST)
Hierdie hele gepratery oor Arundel het begin met 'n verwysing na inligting oor Van Rensburg van my webwerf wat gewoon het by Arundel. Die konteks was ook dat die plase 'n groot rol gespeel het in die ABO.
Janet is heeltemal reg, dit is waar Rensburg Siding is. In die geskiedenis van die ABO is daar baie verwysings na Rensburg Siding. Maar daar was niks oor die Van Rensburgs wat daar gewoon het nie. Dit is hoe my gesoekery en navorsing begin het.
Ek verstaan nie al die gesoekery na ander plase, en dat die plase van hierdie Van Rensburgs dalk onder die ou Verwoerddam le nie.
Ek het dan soveel inligting oor die bydrae van hierdie Van Rensburgs en die gebeure gedurende die ABO op my webwerf: dit sluit in wat die plaas name was en waar die plase was en wie die Van Rensburg was wat die plase besit het en baie inligting ivm met die ABO in die kontrei. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4364/
Dit behoort duidelik te wees vir alger, dit is daar in die Ka-lonie
Andre v R
Boodskap 7b. Re: RENSBURG SIDING Posted by: "sastamouers" [email protected] sastamouers Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:04 pm (PST)
Die direkte skakel wat ek moes gegee het is:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Rhodes/1266/historical-Boerwaratrensburg1b.htm
Andre v R
Boodskap 8. Re: GOUS/GOUWS/ COERTSEN Posted by: "Gert Coertzen" [email protected] coertzen Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:41 pm (PST)
Naand almal,
EK SOEK HULP.
Ek het die boedel van WILLEM COERTSEN en SARA GAUSCH. Verder het ek niks. Geen datums nie. Ek sal hulle graag by die COERTZEN/COERTSEN's wil verbind maar sukkel nou al baie lank om enige iets erens te kry. Ek sal bly wees as die GOUWS navorsers dalk enige info van SARA kan raakloop. Enige datum sal dalk n leidraad verder aan kan aanhelp
GROETNIS
GERT COERTZEN
Boodskap 9. Gieljam Johannes Oberholster Posted by: "Elizabeth Oberholster" [email protected] lizoberholster Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:11 pm (PST)
Vriende, nog 'n vragie asseblief. Kan iemand help met die familie van Gieljam Johannes Oberholster, gebore 14 Nov 1876 en gesterf 27 Apr 1945. Begrawe te Grikwastad. Hy was getroud met Johanna Maria Scholtz, gebore 11 Nov 1884 en gesterf 3 Maart 1946. Ook te Grikwastad begrawe.
Baie dankie weereens vir al die hulp!
Liz
Boodskap 10. Rooigrond ens. Posted by: "d.debeer" [email protected] dwmdwm2002 Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:25 pm (PST)
Volgens die grense voor 1994 - Rooigrond is presies op die grens tussen Transvaal en Kaapprovinsie, op die pad tussen Lichtenburg en Mafeking (Mafikeng). Die grensdraad het deur Rooigrond geloop.
Wat Rooigrond betref - die laerskool Rooigrond was direk langs die grensdraad aan die Transvaalkant. Langs die skool, aan die anderkant van die draad was 'n winkel aan die Kaapse kant. Oorkant die winkel was 'n klein hotel, ook in die Kaapprovinsie. Ek het daar geslaap - eintlik teen die regulasies. Jy mag nie buite die provinsie beweeg het nie. Nou is dit alles deel van Noordwes.
In Jan Kempdorp was 'n soortgelyke situasie. Deel van die dorp was in Transvaal en die ander deel in die Kaap.
Diwwie.
Boodskap 11. (Koerant) Beeld 21 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:54 pm (PST)
BEYTELL; Chireez. {Mnr} VAN HEERDEN kontak S PRETORIUS by 012-344-4432 oor aanneming van Chireez. (Beeld – 18, 21/01/2008)
KLOPPERS; Betsie, in lewe van Pretoria. Dankdiens: NG Gemeente, Riviera, Pretoria, 19/01/2008, 15:00. Verassing. (Beeld – 21/01/2008) Sonja Smith Begrafnisgroep, Centurion, Pretoria, 012-654-9902.
MARÉ; Marné * 29/03/2001 en Marco * 13/09/2002. Jacobus MARÉ * 23/09/1979 kontak dringend vir Johanna Margaretha STEYN by 082-573-7529 oor aanneming en van verandering van kinders. (Beeld – 17, 18, 21/01/2008)
NORTJE; Hertha, voorheen LE ROUX * 23/02/1929 + 15/01/2008. Diens: NG Gemeente, Tuinrand, Pretoria, 22/01/2008, 11:00 # Zandfontein Begraafplaas, Pretoria. Oorleef deur haar kinders Hennie, Christina en Julius, kleinkinders Gerda, Fanie, Jan, Henk en twee susters Dorchen en Tries. (Foto met berig). (Beeld – 21/01/2008) Brandfort Begrafnisdienste, Vrystaat provinsie, 051-821-1223 of 082-456-3102.
VAN DER MERWE; Hetta, in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: Geref Kerk, Rietvallei, h v Hans Strijdom en Boeing, Pretoria, 22/01/2008, 11:00 # 10:00, Pretoria-Oos Begraafplaas. (Beeld – 21/01/2008) Sonja Smith Begrafnisgroep, Centurion, Pretoria, 012-654-9902
VAN WYK; Jacobus Gerrit du Toit, in lewe van Cullinan, Pretoria. Verassingsdiens: Kerk te Zebra Country Lodge, 17/01/2008, 13:00. Verassing. (Beeld – 21/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord (Moot), 012-330-0116/9.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 12. Groet Posted by: "cgviljoen" [email protected] frost_clan Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:49 pm (PST)
Verna WESSELS xx GREYVENSTEIN, née SPILLER: gebore 13 Des 1928 Zwartruggens dogter van Vernon Maximillian SPILLER en Theunisina Christina BOSMAN – oorlede 21 Jan 2008 Krugersdorp. Sy was geliefd.
Susan Viljoen Alberton, South Africa/Suid-Afrika Licensed Scrap-ther-a-P™ Memory Healing Practitioner Licence no 11/010/16
Boodskap 13. 'n VRAAG OM TE VRA Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:51 pm (PST)
Goeie môre alle navorsers en die "groot kokkedore"
Vergun my asseblief die volgende vraag as betreklik nuwe lid:
Ons weet nou dat dit wel gebeur soos met André en soos met Annemie dat hul navorsing en harde werk gebruik word; selfs opgeëis word as daardie persoon/e se eie sonder die nodige erkenning aan die persoon/e wie al die tyd en ure daarin gesit het. My vraag is hoe stop 'n mens die onding? Ek wil defnitief nie in dieselfde slagyster trap nie! 'n Mens gee tog erkenning waar dit toekom. Hoe kan die persoon enigsins navrae rondom data sinvol en korrek beantwoord as hy/sy geen agtergrond inligting het om sy/haar bewyse te staaf nie? Eskuus as ek op onbewustelik op enige persoon se tone trap maar ek plaas nog altyd 'n baie hoë premie op eerlikheid en integriteit! As 'n nuutjie soos ek dan vir Simon kan sê: "nee ek het nie die bewyse nie", dis Cornel se harde werk dan verwag ek andere moet dit ook met my werk kan doen. Kennis is mag en ek deel verskriklik graag my beperkte kennis met andere. As enige iemand nou op oneerbare wyse te werk gaan hoe gaan al hierdie navorsing enigsins van waarde wees vir enige nageslag wat daarin belang sou stel? Erger nog....dan is ons mos nou besig om ons tyd te mors hier, dan nie?!
Geniet die week wat op ons wag en ek hoop al die kragonderbrekings en vreemde weer patrone is nie te ontwrigtend vir ons almal nie.
Dankie Annemie dit wil meer na die mense lyk wie ek ken, het al jou e-pos en korrekte inligting ontvang en ek stel dit hoog op prys. Ek kon regtig nie die kloutjie by die oor bring nie.....
Baie dankie vir almal se wonderlike samewerking en hulp wat ek tot dusver al ontvang het.
Berna
Boodskap 14a. Momberg Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:15 am (PST)
Dag vriende,
Vriendin van my se X-man is oorlede:-
MOMBERG Richard ? + 27 Des.2008 op ouderdom 61 jaar. hy het nog 'n naam maar ek het vergeet wat dit was . x en geskei Veronica. 1 Kind Louise. Geen begrafnis was net verras.
Groete uit Durban. Rita (Aletta Magrieta) QUEBBEMANN 15 Mt Royal , Dunkirk Place Umbilo Durban. Suid Afrika Ouers:- STEENKAMP /LOURENS GROOTOUERS :-STEENKAMP/ SCHEEPERS LOURENS /SWANEPOEL / VELDMAN SKOONDOGTER: BOTHA /SWANEPOEL/ SMITH Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3074
Datum: Monday, January 21, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: Kwartierstaat van Guillaume Johannes Oberholster (zer) gebore 14 From: Cornel Viljoen
1b. Re: Kwartierstaat van Guillaume Johannes Oberholster (zer) gebore 14 From: Elizabeth Oberholster
2a. Re: VAN RENSBURG From: Willeen Olivier
2b. Re: VAN RENSBURG From: jacokuhn
2c. Re: VAN RENSBURG From: Willeen Olivier
3. Die huis op Rooigrond naby Mafikeng From: [email protected]
4a. Re: Gedenkboek van die ossewaens op die pad van Suid-Afrika:Eeufees, From: Hennie
4b. Re: Gedenkboek van die ossewaens op die pad van Suid-Afrika:Eeufees, From: Ariel Rudolph
4c. Re: Gedenkboek van die ossewaens op die pad van Suid-Afrika:Eeufees, From: Louis Hurn
5. Gedenkboek van die ossewaens op die pad van Suid-Afrika:Eeufees, 183 From: Hetta Scholtz
6. Keet navraag From: Andrew Kok
7.1. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
7.2. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
8. Re: Bresler/van Wyk Bresler / Burger Bresler/ Warnich B From: David Jamieson
9a. LAASTE VAN MY KANT AF OOR RENSBURG SIDING From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
9b. Seeff van Rensburg From: sastamouers
10a. Spoortrollies From: Nardus Vodacom
10b. Re: Spoortrollies From: barkerma barker
11a. Re: Rooigrond ens. From: Nardus Vodacom
12. Soeke na 'n Janse van Rensburg From: Dirk Bloem
13a. Re: Pansegrouw x Du Plooy From: Jaleen de Beer
13b. Re: Pansegrouw x Du Plooy From: Gustav & René Pansegrouw
14a. Re: Bossert SAG1 (vir Chris Bossert) From: [email protected]
14b. Re: Bossert SAG1 (vir Chris Bossert) From: Louis Hurn
15a. DEETLEFS From: Ockert Fourie Boodskap 1a. Re: Kwartierstaat van Guillaume Johannes Oberholster (zer) gebore 14 Posted by: "Cornel Viljoen" [email protected] cornel.viljoen Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:47 am (PST)
Goeie dag Liz,
Vind asseblief hieronder die voorgeslag van Guillaume Johannes Oberholzer, gebore 14 Nov 1876.
Groete,
Cornel Viljoen
Melbourne, Australie
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Ancestors of Guillaume Johannes OBERHOLZER
First Generation
1. Guillaume Johannes OBERHOLZER, son of Albertus Johannes OBERHOLZER and
Magdalena Susanna JACOBS, was born on 14 Nov 1876, was christened on 20 Jan 1877 in Hopetown, Cape Province, and died on 27 Apr 1945 in Griekwastad, Cape Province at age 68.
Guillaume married Johanna Maria SCHOLTZ.
Second Generation (Parents)
2. Albertus Johannes OBERHOLZER, son of Guillaume Johannes OBERHOLZER and Jacomina Elisabeth Johanna LIEBENBERG, was born on 21 Jun 1855 and was christened on 2 Oct 1855 in Hopetown, Cape Province.
Albertus married Magdalena Susanna JACOBS on 16 Nov 1875 in Jacobsdal, Free State.
The child from this marriage was: i. Guillaume Johannes OBERHOLZER
3. Magdalena Susanna JACOBS .
Magdalena married Albertus Johannes OBERHOLZER on 16 Nov 1875 in Jacobsdal, Free State.
Third Generation (Grandparents)
4. Guillaume Johannes OBERHOLZER, son of Guillaume Johannes OBERHOLZER and Elisabeth Alida VAN NIEKERK, was born on 7 Sep 1816, was christened on 7 Oct 1816 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 5 Aug 1887 in Hopetown, Cape Province at age 70.
Guillaume married Jacomina Elisabeth Johanna LIEBENBERG on 23 Dec 1844 in Colesberg, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Guillaume Johannes OBERHOLZER was born on 8 Sep 1845, was christened on 17 May 1846 in Colesberg, Cape Province, and died on 21 Jul 1899 in farm "Mierkraal", Herbert, Cape Province at age 53. ii. Jacomina Elisabeth Adriana OBERHOLZER was born on 9 Aug 1848 and was christened on 9 Nov 1848 in Fauresmith, Free State. iii. Elisabeth Alida OBERHOLZER was born on 16 Nov 1849 and was christened on 4 Mar 1850 in Fauresmith, Free State. iv. Hester Cornelia OBERHOLZER was born on 19 Feb 1852 and was christened on 18 Apr 1852 in Fauresmith, Free State. v. Alida Johanna Margaretha Susanna OBERHOLZER was born on 1 Dec 1852 and was christened on 19 Feb 1854 in Hopetown, Cape Province. vi. Albertus Johannes OBERHOLZER vii. Pieter Coenraad Frederik OBERHOLZER was born on 18 Jul 1857 and was christened on 6 Oct 1857 in Hopetown, Cape Province. viii. Barend Godlieb Gerhardus OBERHOLZER was born on 15 Mar 1861 and was christened on 6 Jun 1861 in Hopetown, Cape Province. ix. Maria Petronella Adriana OBERHOLZER was born on 28 Jan 1863 and was christened on 4 Mar 1863 in Hopetown, Cape Province. x. Johannes Francois Petrus OBERHOLZER was born on 13 Jun 1865 in Albanie, Cape Province, was christened on 6 Jul 1865 in Hopetown, Cape Province, and died on 27 Nov 1950 in farm "Bucklands", Douglas, Cape Province at age 85.
Guillaume next married Anna Catharina WILLERS on 2 Sep 1867 in Hopetown, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Petrus Solomon OBERHOLZER was born on 4 Jun 1868 and was christened on 10 Jul 1868 in Hopetown, Cape Province.
ii. Cornelia Adriana OBERHOLZER was born on 23 Sep 1870 and was christened on 30 Oct 1870 in Hopetown, Cape Province.
iii. Jan Albert OBERHOLZER was born on 23 Feb 1875 and was christened on 11 Jul 1875 in Hopetown, Cape Province.
iv. Willem Petrus OBERHOLZER was born on 12 Nov 1876 and was christened on 15 Feb 1877 in Hopetown, Cape Province.
5. Jacomina Elisabeth Johanna LIEBENBERG, daughter of Albertus Johannes
LIEBENBERG and Jacomina Elisabeth Adriana VILJOEN, was born on 1 Feb 1828, was christened on 3 Mar 1828 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 13 Jun 1865 in Hopetown, Cape Province at age 37.
Jacomina married Guillaume Johannes OBERHOLZER on 23 Dec 1844 in Colesberg, Cape Province.
Fourth Generation (Great-Grandparents)
8. Guillaume Johannes OBERHOLZER, son of Pieter OBERHOLZER and Alida VISAGIE, was born in 1786, was christened on 19 Jun 1786 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died on 14 May 1861 on farm "Gelukspoort", Hopetown, Cape Province at age 75.
Guillaume married Elisabeth Alida VAN NIEKERK on 5 Oct 1805 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Pieter Coenraad Frederik OBERHOLZER was born on 30 Jun 1807, was christened on 26 Jul 1807 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died after 1873. ii. Jan Albert OBERHOLZER was born on 9 Jun 1809, was christened on 3 Jul 1809 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 5 Oct 1882 on farm "Sterkfontein", Boshof, Free State at age 73. iii. Alida Johanna OBERHOLZER was born on 21 Feb 1811, was christened on 24 Mar 1811 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 9 Jun 1884 in farm "Gouspan", Hopetown, Cape Province at age 73.
iv. Helena Elisabeth OBERHOLZER was born on 10 Feb 1813, was christened on 8 Aug 1813 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died in 1902 in farm "Klaarstroom", Zeerust, Great Marico at age 89.
v. Willem Petrus OBERHOLZER was born on 27 Oct 1814 and was christened on 26 Dec 1814 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province.
vi. Guillaume Johannes OBERHOLZER
vii. Michiel Adriaan OBERHOLZER was born on 11 Sep 1818 and was christened on 8 Nov 1818 in Cradock, Cape Province.
viii. Elisabeth Alida Helena OBERHOLZER was born on 6 Oct 1820 and was christened on 12 Nov 1820 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province.
ix. Sarel Gerhardus OBERHOLZER was born on 1 Dec 1822 and was christened on 21 Jan 1823 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province.
x. Arie Gerhardus OBERHOLZER was born on 11 Jul 1824, was christened on 12 Sep 1824 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 6 Jun 1894 at age 69.
xi. Jan Anthonie OBERHOLZER was born on 4 Jun 1826, was christened on 2 Oct 1826 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 20 Sep 1863 in farm "Schietmekaar", Fauresmith at age 37.
xii. Johanna Margaretha OBERHOLZER was born on 11 Sep 1829, was christened on 22 Jan 1830 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died in Dec 1848 in Fauresmith, Free State at age 19. Another name for Johanna was Hannie OBERHOLZER.
9. Elisabeth Alida VAN NIEKERK, daughter of Jan Albert VAN NIEKERK and Helena Elisabeth OBERHOLZER, was born in 1788 and was christened on 9 Nov 1788.
Elisabeth married Guillaume Johannes OBERHOLZER on 5 Oct 1805 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province.
10. Albertus Johannes LIEBENBERG, son of Barend Godlieb LIEBENBERG and Maria Petronella VAN JAARSVELD, was born in 1793 and was christened on 6 Oct 1793.
Albertus married Jacomina Elisabeth Adriana VILJOEN.
The child from this marriage was: i. Jacomina Elisabeth Johanna LIEBENBERG
11. Jacomina Elisabeth Adriana VILJOEN, daughter of Francois Petrus VILJOEN and Maria Petronella OPPERMAN, was born in 1798 and was christened on 19 Aug 1798 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province.
Jacomina married Albertus Johannes LIEBENBERG.
Fifth Generation (Great Great-Grandparents)
16. Pieter OBERHOLZER, son of Guilliam OBERHOLZER and Johanna Margaretha BERGMANN, was born in 1757 and was christened on 27 Nov 1757.
Pieter married Alida VISAGIE on 31 Oct 1784.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Guillaume Johannes OBERHOLZER
ii. Pieter Michiel OBERHOLZER was born on 27 Jun 1801 and was christened on 1 Nov 1801 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province.
iii. Maria Adriana OBERHOLZER was born on 11 Sep 1802 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, was christened on 19 Mar 1803 in Tulbagh, Cape Province, and died on 29 Sep 1875 in farm "Krugersbaken", Great Marico at age 73.
iv. Arie Gerhardus OBERHOLZER was born in 1804, was christened on 21 May 1804 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 30 Sep 1866 in farm "Vlakfontein", Victoria- West at age 62.
v. Jan Albert OBERHOLZER was born on 9 Oct 1805, was christened on 10 Nov 1805 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died before 1838.
17. Alida VISAGIE, daughter of Arie VISAGIE and Maria DE NYS, was born in 1763 in Clanwilliam, Cape Province, was christened on 2 Oct 1763, and died on 13 Sep 1843 in Sneeuberg, Graaff-Reinet at age 80.
Alida married Pieter OBERHOLZER on 31 Oct 1784.
18. Jan Albert VAN NIEKERK, son of Gerrit VAN NIEKERK and Anna Dorothea BRONS, was born in 1732 and was christened on 28 Sep 1732.
Jan married Helena Elisabeth OBERHOLZER on 23 Jan 1763.
Children from this marriage were: i. Anna Dorothea VAN NIEKERK was born in 1764 and was christened on 18 Mar 1764 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Guilliam VAN NIEKERK was born in 1765 and was christened on 14 Apr 1765 in Cape Town, Cape Province. iii. Gerrit VAN NIEKERK was born in 1766 and was christened on 24 Aug 1766 in Cape Town, Cape Province. iv. Jan Albert VAN NIEKERK was born in 1768, was christened on 2 Oct 1768 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died before 1833. v. Johanna Margaretha VAN NIEKERK was born in 1771 and was christened on 3 Mar 1771. vi. Frederik VAN NIEKERK was born in 1772 in Caledon, Cape Province, was christened on 29 Nov 1772 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died on 5 Nov 1858 in farm "Kameelfontein", Boshof, Free State at age 86. vii. Helena Elisabeth VAN NIEKERK was born in 1775 and was christened on 1 Jan 1775. viii. Jan Anthonie VAN NIEKERK was born in 1777 and was christened on 11 May 1777. ix. Cornelius Gregorius VAN NIEKERK was born on 30 Mar 1780 in Swartberg, Albert, Cape Province, was christened on 22 Apr 1781, died on 25 Oct 1852 in Modder River, Free State at age 72, and was buried in Oct 1852 in farm "Stinkfontein", Boshof, Free State. x. Maria Helena VAN NIEKERK was born in 1784 and was christened on 21 Mar 1784. xi. Michiel VAN NIEKERK was born in 1785, was christened on 30 Oct 1785 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died on 30 Dec 1839 in farm "Duvenaarsfontein", Middenveld, Cape Province at age 54. xii. Elisabeth Alida VAN NIEKERK xiii. Wilhelmina Petronella VAN NIEKERK was born in 1791 and was christened on 6 Mar 1791.
19. Helena Elisabeth OBERHOLZER, daughter of Guilliam OBERHOLZER and Johanna Margaretha BERGMANN, was born in 1745 and was christened on 11 Apr 1745.
Helena married Jan Albert VAN NIEKERK on 23 Jan 1763.
20. Barend Godlieb LIEBENBERG, son of Bernardus LIEBENBERG and Elizabeth BOCKELENBERG, was born in 1766, was christened on 7 Dec 1766, and died on 23 Aug 1836 in Murdered at Liebenbergskoppie, Natal at age 70.
Barend married Maria Petronella VAN JAARSVELD on 28 Oct 1787.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Albertus Johannes LIEBENBERG
21. Maria Petronella VAN JAARSVELD, daughter of Albertus VAN JAARSVELD and Elizabeth Johanna OPPERMAN, was born in 1771 and was christened on 30 Mar 1771.
Maria married Barend Godlieb LIEBENBERG on 28 Oct 1787.
22. Francois Petrus VILJOEN, son of Johannes Hendricus VILJOEN and Anna Francina JOUBERT, was born in 1773, was christened on 26 Sep 1773 in Middenveld, Colesberg, Cape Province, and died on 18 Jul 1843 in Graaff-Reinet District at age 70.
Francois married Maria Petronella OPPERMAN on 2 Feb 1794.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Maria Christina Geertruy VILJOEN was born on 18 Mar 1795, was christened on 31 May 1795 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 30 Apr 1863 at age 68.
ii. Anna Francina VILJOEN was born in 1797 and was christened on 22 Oct 1797. iii. Jacomina Elisabeth Adriana VILJOEN iv. Aletta Elisabeth VILJOEN was born in 1799 and was christened on 29 Sep 1799 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. v. Christiaan Rudolph VILJOEN was born on 23 Feb 1801 and was christened on 10 Nov 1801 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. vi. Susara Margaretha VILJOEN was born in 1803, was christened on 16 Oct 1803 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 15 Jan 1855 on farm "Deelfontein", Richmond, Cape Province at age 52.
vii. Johannes Hendricus VILJOEN was born in Jan 1805, was christened on 12 May 1805, and died on 9 Dec 1880 in Richmond, Cape Province at age 75.
viii. Francois Petrus VILJOEN was born circa 1807 in Cape Colony and died on 2 Mar 1882 in Pretoria, Transvaal at age 75. ix. Catharina Johanna VILJOEN was born on 30 Dec 1808, was christened on 16 Apr 1809 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died circa 1885 at age 77. x. Christoffel Philippus VILJOEN was born on 30 Jun 1811, was christened on 1 Sep 1811 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died circa 1813 at age 2. xi. Maria Petronella VILJOEN was born on 24 Aug 1814, was christened on 26 Dec 1814 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died circa 1839 in Cape Colony at age 25. xii. Christoffel Philippus VILJOEN was born on 30 Jun 1815, was christened on 1 Sep 1815 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 20 Jun 1855 in Richmond, Cape Province at age 39. xiii. Gerta Jacoba VILJOEN was born on 12 Jul 1816 and was christened on 29 Sep 1816 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province. xiv. Susanna VILJOEN was born on 20 Jul 1818, was christened on 6 Dec 1818 in Graaff-Reinet, Cape Province, and died on 2 Nov 1894 in Colesberg, Cape Province at age 76.
23. Maria Petronella OPPERMAN, daughter of Christiaan Rudolph OPPERMAN and Maria Christina KOEKEMOER, was born in 1778 and was christened on 21 Feb 1779.
Maria married Francois Petrus VILJOEN on 2 Feb 1794.
Sixth Generation (3rd Great-Grandparents)
32. Guilliam OBERHOLZER, son of Johann OBERHOLSTER (Stamvader) and Helena DU TOIT, was born in 1707 and was christened on 4 Dec 1707 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Guilliam married Johanna Margaretha BERGMANN on 30 Dec 1731 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Johannes Willem OBERHOLZER was born in 1732, was christened on 25 Jan 1733, and died before 1735 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Willem OBERHOLZER was born in 1735 and was christened on 20 Nov 1735. iii. Guilliam OBERHOLZER was born in 1737 and was christened on 7 Jul 1737. iv. Cornelis OBERHOLZER was born in 1739, was christened on 3 May 1739, and died before 1742 in Cape Town, Cape Province. v. Michiel OBERHOLZER was born in 1740 and was christened on 13 Nov 1740. vi. Cornelis OBERHOLZER was born in 1742, was christened on 21 Oct 1742, and died before 1748. vii. Helena Elisabeth OBERHOLZER viii. Gerrit Cornelis OBERHOLZER was born in 1748 and was christened on 21 Jul 1748. ix. Pieter OBERHOLZER
33. Johanna Margaretha BERGMANN, daughter of Willem Stevensz BERGMANN (Stamvader) and Helena MULDER From the Cape, was born in 1716 and was christened on 7 Jan 1717 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Johanna married Guilliam OBERHOLZER on 30 Dec 1731 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
34. Arie VISAGIE, son of Guilliam VISAGIE and Gerritje PRINSLOO, was born circa 1706.
Arie married Maria DE NYS on 2 Oct 1745.
Children from this marriage were: i. Gerharda VISAGIE was born in 1746 and was christened on 2 Oct 1746. ii. Johanna VISAGIE was born in 1750 and was christened on 19 Apr 1750. iii. Maria VISAGIE was born on 2 Feb 1757 and died on 16 Jul 1838 in farm "Sefanjespoort", Colesberg, Cape Province at age 81. iv. Alida VISAGIE
35. Maria DE NYS, daughter of Jan DE NYS and Johanna PIETERSE, was born in 1726, was christened on 17 Nov 1726, and died in Sep 1770 at age 44.
Maria married Arie VISAGIE on 2 Oct 1745.
36. Gerrit VAN NIEKERK, son of Cornelis Gerritz VAN NIEKERK (Stamvader) and Maria VAN DER WESTHUIZEN, was born in 1695 and was christened on 18 Sep 1695 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Gerrit married Anna Dorothea BRONS on 6 Oct 1725.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Cornelis VAN NIEKERK was born in 1726 and was christened on 29 Dec 1726.
ii. Maria Helena VAN NIEKERK was born in 1730 and was christened on 12 Feb 1730.
iii. Jan Albert VAN NIEKERK
iv. Gerrit VAN NIEKERK was born in 1737 and was christened on 17 Feb 1737.
37. Anna Dorothea BRONS, daughter of Johann Albert BRONS (Stamvader) and Maria THOMASSE, was born in 1709 and was christened on 3 Nov 1709 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Anna married Gerrit VAN NIEKERK on 6 Oct 1725.
38. Guilliam OBERHOLZER, son of Johann OBERHOLSTER (Stamvader) and Helena DU TOIT, was born in 1707 and was christened on 4 Dec 1707 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
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39. Johanna Margaretha BERGMANN, daughter of Willem Stevensz BERGMANN (Stamvader) and Helena MULDER From the Cape, was born in 1716 and was christened on 7 Jan 1717 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
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40. Bernardus LIEBENBERG, son of Christiaan LIEBENBERG (Stamvader) and Catharina LUBBE, was born in 1731 and was christened on 1 Apr 1731.
Bernardus married Elizabeth BOCKELENBERG on 25 Nov 1759.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Elisabeth Johanna LIEBENBERG was born in 1760 and was christened on 12 Dec 1760.
ii. Christiaan Jacobus LIEBENBERG was born in 1762, was christened on 10 Apr 1762, and died before 1808.
iii. Daniel Pieter LIEBENBERG was born circa 1764.
iv. Barend Godlieb LIEBENBERG
41. Elizabeth BOCKELENBERG, daughter of Daniel BOCKELENBERG and Elisabeth LORET, was born in 1741 and was christened on 21 May 1741.
Elizabeth married Bernardus LIEBENBERG on 25 Nov 1759.
42. Albertus VAN JAARSVELD, son of Albertus VAN JAARSVELD and Maria JORDAAN, was born in 1749 and was christened on 27 Jul 1749.
Albertus married Elizabeth Johanna OPPERMAN on 29 Apr 1770.
Children from this marriage were: i. Maria Petronella VAN JAARSVELD ii. Anna Catharina VAN JAARSVELD was born in Jun 1776, was christened on 25 Dec 1776, and died on 15 Sep 1847 in farm "Middelwater", Cradock, Cape Province at age 71. iii. Alberta Johanna VAN JAARSVELD was born on 13 Oct 1780 in Graaff-Reinet District, was christened on 15 Oct 1780, and died on 31 Dec 1851 in farm "Grootvlei", Cradock, Cape Province at age 71.
Albertus next married Elsje Susanna KLOPPER, daughter of Hendrik KLOPPER and Unknown, on 12 Apr 1793.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Paul Willem Jacobus VAN JAARSVELD was born on 22 Jun 1800.
43. Elizabeth Johanna OPPERMAN, daughter of Godlieb Rodulphus OPPERMAN and Maria Petronella BOCKELENBERG, was born circa 1764 and died before 1793.
Elizabeth married Albertus VAN JAARSVELD on 29 Apr 1770.
44. Johannes Hendricus VILJOEN, son of Johannes VILJOEN and Aletta OLIVIER, was born in 1745 and was christened on 21 Feb 1745.
Johannes married Anna Francina JOUBERT on 28 Feb 1768 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Johannes Hendricus VILJOEN was born in 1770 and was christened on 11 Mar 1770 in Tulbagh, Cape Province. ii. Aletta Elisabeth VILJOEN was born in 1771 and was christened on 27 Oct 1771.
iii. Francois Petrus VILJOEN
iv. Christoffel VILJOEN was born on 9 Aug 1775, was christened on 10 Mar 1776 in Tulbagh, Cape Province, and died on 18 Aug 1845 in Colesberg, Cape Province at age 70.
v. Gerhardus VILJOEN was born in 1779, was christened on 17 Apr 1779, and died on 15 May 1840 in farm "Patrysfontein", Graaff-Reinet at age 61. Another name for Gerhardus was Gert VILJOEN.
vi. Anna Francina VILJOEN was born in 1780 and was christened on 24 Nov 1780 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
vii. Ignatius Michiel VILJOEN was born on 1 Mar 1782 in farm "Koopfontein", Richmond, Cape Province, was christened on 8 Oct 1782 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died on 29 Jul 1849 in Richmond, Cape Province at age 67.
viii. Willem VILJOEN was born in 1785 and was christened on 8 Nov 1785.
ix. Philippus Jacobus VILJOEN was born circa 1786.
x. Josua Philippus VILJOEN was born in 1788 and was christened on 11 Jan 1789.
xi. Elisabeth Catharina VILJOEN was born in 1791 and was christened on 26 Feb 1792.
xii. Petrus Cornelis VILJOEN was born in 1801 and was christened on 10 Nov 1801.
45. Anna Francina JOUBERT, daughter of Francois JOUBERT and Elisabeth CRONJE, was born in 1748 and was christened on 13 Jul 1749.
Anna married Johannes Hendricus VILJOEN on 28 Feb 1768 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
46. Christiaan Rudolph OPPERMAN, son of Godlieb Rodulphus OPPERMAN and Maria Petronella BOCKELENBERG, was born in 1755 and was christened on 16 Nov 1755 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Christiaan married Maria Christina KOEKEMOER on 2 Feb 1775 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Maria Petronella OPPERMAN ii. Anna Catharina OPPERMAN was born in 1780 and was christened on 9 Apr 1780. iii. Sara Margaretha OPPERMAN was born in 1784 and was christened on 7 Mar 1784.
iv. Elisabeth Johanna OPPERMAN was born in 1788 and was christened on 17 Feb 1788.
Christiaan next married Elizabeth DU TOIT, daughter of Francois DU TOIT and Anna JORDAAN, on 23 Oct 1803.
47. Maria Christina KOEKEMOER, daughter of Diederik KOEKEMOER and Jacomina VAN WYK, was born on 18 Sep 1758 and was christened on 11 Mar 1759 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Maria married Christiaan Rudolph OPPERMAN on 2 Feb 1775 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
Seventh Generation (4th Great-Grandparents)
64. Johann OBERHOLSTER (Stamvader) was born in 1674 in Zurich, Switzerland and died in 1723 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 49.
Johann had a relationship with Agnitie COLYN, daughter of Bastiaan COLYN (Stamvader) and Maria EVERTS. Marriage status: unmarried.
Their child was: i. Johannes OBERHOLSTER was born in 1702 and was christened on 24 Oct 1702 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Johann next had a relationship with Johanna Marretje FROM THE CAPE. Marriage status: unmarried.
Their child was: i. Barbara OBERHOLSTER was born in 1708 and was christened on 20 Apr 1708 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Johann married Helena DU TOIT on 5 Jul 1706 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Guilliam OBERHOLZER
ii. Johannes OBERHOLZER was born in 1710 and was christened on 24 Aug 1710 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
iii. Johanna Barbara OBERHOLZER was born in 1713, was christened on 16 Jun 1713 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died before 1776.
Johann next married Judith DU PLESSIS, daughter of Jean Prieur DU PLESSIS (Stamvader) and Marie Madeleine MENANTEAU, on 14 Jan 1714. They had no children.
65. Helena DU TOIT, daughter of Guillaume DU TOIT (Stamvader) and Sara Barendts COCHET, was born in 1690, was christened on 6 Aug 1690, and died circa 1713 in Cape Colony at age 23.
Helena married Johann OBERHOLSTER (Stamvader) on 5 Jul 1706 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
66. Willem Stevensz BERGMANN (Stamvader) was born in Netherlands and died in Cape Colony.
Willem married Helena MULDER From the Cape on 2 Oct 1718 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Wilhelmina Hendrina BERGMANN was born circa 1713. ii. Johanna Margaretha BERGMANN iii. Johannes BERGMANN was born in 1723 and was christened on 8 Aug 1723. iv. Gerrit BERGMANN was born in 1725 and was christened on 20 May 1725.
67. Helena MULDER From the Cape .
Helena married Willem Stevensz BERGMANN (Stamvader) on 2 Oct 1718 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
68. Guilliam VISAGIE, son of Pieter VISAGIE (Stamvader) and Catharina KIENS, was born in 1674 and was christened on 25 Nov 1674.
Guilliam married Gerritje PRINSLOO.
Children from this marriage were: i. Pieter VISAGIE was born circa 1701. ii. Arie VISAGIE iii. Izak VISAGIE was born circa 1708. iv. Lucas VISAGIE was born circa 1710. v. Nicolaas VISAGIE was born circa 1712. vi. Guilliam VISAGIE was born in 1714 and was christened on 7 Oct 1714. vii. Catharina VISAGIE was born in 1716 and was christened on 8 Nov 1716. viii. Alida VISAGIE was born in 1718 and was christened on 11 Dec 1718. Another name for Alida was Aaltje VISAGIE. ix. Gerrit VISAGIE was born in 1721 and was christened on 2 Feb 1721.
69. Gerritje PRINSLOO, daughter of Adriaan Gerrits PRINSLOO (Stamvader) and Aeltje CLAASEN, was born in 1681 and was christened on 24 Aug 1681 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Gerritje married Guilliam VISAGIE.
70. Jan DE NYS, son of Jan DE NYS (Stamvader) and Lysbet Fockese RODA, was born in 1701, was christened on 3 Apr 1701, and died circa 1732 in Cape Colony at age 31.
Jan married Johanna PIETERSE on 29 Jul 1725.
Children from this marriage were: i. Maria DE NYS ii. Elisabeth DE NYS was born in 1730, was christened on 10 Sep 1730, and died circa 1763 at age 33.
71. Johanna PIETERSE .
Johanna married Jan DE NYS on 29 Jul 1725.
Johanna next married Christian PETZOLD (Stamvader) on 3 Oct 1734.
The child from this marriage was: i. Anna Catharina PETZOLD was born circa 1736.
72. Cornelis Gerritz VAN NIEKERK (Stamvader) was born in Netherlands and died in Cape Colony.
Cornelis married Maria VAN DER WESTHUIZEN on 1 Apr 1691.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Aletta VAN NIEKERK was born in 1692 and was christened on 4 Jan 1693 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
ii. Gerrit VAN NIEKERK
iii. Johannes VAN NIEKERK was born in 1697, was christened on 15 Sep 1697 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died before 1746.
iv. Pieter VAN NIEKERK was born in 1702, was christened on 2 Apr 1702 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died circa 1771 at age 69.
v. Helena VAN NIEKERK was born in 1704 and was christened on 9 Nov 1704 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
vi. Bernardus VAN NIEKERK was born in 1709 and was christened on 20 Jan 1709 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
73. Maria VAN DER WESTHUIZEN, daughter of Pieter VAN DER WESTHUIZEN (Stamvader) and Maria Hendriks WINKELHAUSEN, was born in 1675 and was christened on 6 Oct 1675.
Maria married Cornelis Gerritz VAN NIEKERK (Stamvader) on 1 Apr 1691.
Maria next married Samuel WALTER (Stamvader) on 22 Mar 1711.
74. Johann Albert BRONS (Stamvader) was born in Germany and died in Cape Colony.
Johann married Anna LYSTER on 24 Apr 1693 in Cape Town, Cape Province. They had no children.
Johann next married Maria KOOPMAN on 8 Sep 1697 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was: i. Anna Maria BRONS was born circa 1699.
Johann next married Dina SOETERMEER on 21 Jan 1706 in Cape Town, Cape Province. They had no children.
Johann next married Maria THOMASSE on 31 Oct 1706 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was: i. Anna Dorothea BRONS
75. Maria THOMASSE .
Maria married Johann Albert BRONS (Stamvader) on 31 Oct 1706 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
80. Christiaan LIEBENBERG (Stamvader) was born in Germany and died in 1763 in Cape Colony.
Christiaan married Catharina LUBBE on 11 May 1727 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Christiaan LIEBENBERG was born in 1728 and was christened on 26 Sep 1728. ii. Bernardus LIEBENBERG iii. Jacobus LIEBENBERG was born in 1733 and was christened on 28 Jun 1733.
81. Catharina LUBBE, daughter of Berend LÖBE (Stamvader) and Jacoba BRANDENBURG, was born in 1706 and was christened on 23 May 1706.
Catharina married Christiaan LIEBENBERG (Stamvader) on 11 May 1727 in Paarl, Cape Province.
82. Daniel BOCKELENBERG, son of Johannes BOCKELENBERG (Stamvader) and Johanna VAN DEN BOSCH, was born in 1707 and was christened on 17 Jul 1707.
Daniel married Elisabeth LORET on 25 May 1732.
Children from this marriage were: i. Johannes BOCKELENBERG was born in 1733 and was christened on 12 Jul 1733. ii. Johanna Elisabeth BOCKELENBERG was born in 1735 and was christened on 24 Apr 1735. iii. Maria Petronella BOCKELENBERG was born in 1737 and was christened on 2 Jun 1737. iv. Daniel BOCKELENBERG was born in 1739 and was christened on 28 Jun 1739. v. Elizabeth BOCKELENBERG vi. Sara BOCKELENBERG was born in 1745 and was christened on 19 Dec 1745 in Paarl, Cape Province.
vii. Anna BOCKELENBERG was born in 1743, was christened on 19 May 1743, and died before 1773.
viii. Esther BOCKELENBERG was born in 1747 and was christened on 17 Sep 1747.
ix. Geertruy BOCKELENBERG was born in 1749, was christened on 4 Jan 1750, and died before 1790.
83. Elisabeth LORET, daughter of Guillaume LORET (Stamvader) and Isabeau JOUBERT, was born in 1713 and was christened on 30 Sep 1713.
Elisabeth married Daniel BOCKELENBERG on 25 May 1732.
84. Albertus VAN JAARSVELD, son of Adriaan VAN JAARSVELD (Stamvader) and Cornelia NEL, was born in 1714, was christened on 30 Sep 1714 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died before 1752.
Albertus married Maria JORDAAN on 19 May 1743.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Adriaan VAN JAARSVELD was born on 16 May 1745 in farm "De Kromme Rivier", Piketberg, Cape Province, was christened on 20 Jun 1745 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died on 29 Jun 1801 in Cape Town, Cape Province at age 56. ii. Albertus VAN JAARSVELD
85. Maria JORDAAN, daughter of Paul JORDAAN and Rachel NEL, was born in 1727, was christened on 9 Feb 1727 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province, and died circa 1761 at age 34.
Maria married Albertus VAN JAARSVELD on 19 May 1743.
Maria next married Jan Adriaan VENTER, son of Pieter VENTER and Hester NEL, circa 1752.
Children from this marriage were: i. Pieter VENTER was born in 1753 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, was christened on 25 Mar 1753 in Swartland (Tulbagh), Cape Province, and died on 1 Aug 1835 in farm "Rietfontein", Colesberg, Cape Province at age 82. ii. Paul Stephanus VENTER was born in 1754 and was christened on 28 Jul 1754. iii. Hester VENTER was born in 1756 and died in 1838 at age 82.
iv. Maria Elizabeth VENTER was born in 1758 and was christened on 22 Oct 1758. v. Willem VENTER was born on 16 Apr 1761 and was christened on 23 Aug 1761 in Swartland (Tulbagh), Cape Province. vi. Paul VENTER was born in 1754 and was christened on 28 Jul 1754.
86. Godlieb Rodulphus OPPERMAN, son of Gottlieb Christian OPPERMAN (Stamvader) and Maria KOSTER, was born in 1729, was christened on 19 Jun 1729, and died circa 1781 at age 52.
Godlieb married Maria Petronella BOCKELENBERG on 15 Oct 1752.
Children from this marriage were: i. Christiaan Rudolph OPPERMAN ii. Anna Barbara OPPERMAN was born in 1758 and was christened on 24 Dec 1758. iii. Catharina Helena OPPERMAN was born on 9 Nov 1760, was christened on 22 Feb 1761, and died on 27 Mar 1807 at age 46. iv. Elizabeth Johanna OPPERMAN
Godlieb next married Johanna MINNAAR, daughter of Philippe MINNAAR and Susanna ROUX, on 19 Jan 1775.
87. Maria Petronella BOCKELENBERG, daughter of Daniel BOCKELENBERG and Elisabeth LORET, was born in 1737 and was christened on 2 Jun 1737.
Maria married Godlieb Rodulphus OPPERMAN on 15 Oct 1752.
88. Johannes VILJOEN, son of Johannes VILLION and Catharina SNYMAN, was born in 1711 and was christened on 19 Sep 1711 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Johannes married Aletta OLIVIER on 8 Mar 1744 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Johannes Hendricus VILJOEN ii. Christoffel VILJOEN was born in 1747 and was christened on 29 Jan 1747. iii. Willem VILJOEN was born in 1748 and was christened on 8 Oct 1748 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
iv. Catharina Maria VILJOEN was born in 1751 and was christened on 25 Apr 1751.
v. Jacobus Petrus VILJOEN was born in 1753 and was christened on 22 Apr 1753.
vi. Hercules VILJOEN was born in 1755, was christened on 5 Oct 1755, and died circa 1788 at age 33.
vii. Geertruy Jacomina VILJOEN was born in 1757 and died in 1787 at age 30.
viii. Aletta Cornelia VILJOEN was born in 1760 and was christened on 17 Aug 1760.
89. Aletta OLIVIER, daughter of Hendrik OLIVIER and Maria VIVIER, was born in 1725 and was christened on 15 Jul 1725.
Aletta married Johannes VILJOEN on 8 Mar 1744 in Paarl, Cape Province.
90. Francois JOUBERT, son of Pierre JOUBERT (Stamvader) and Isabeau RICHARD, was born in 1706, was christened on 28 Nov 1706 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died in 1758 at age 52.
Francois married Gesina VAN DEVENTER on 6 Nov 1729 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Francois next married Elisabeth CRONJE on 18 Feb 1731.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Pieter JOUBERT was born in 1731 and was christened on 2 Mar 1732.
ii. Elizabeth JOUBERT was born in 1733 and was christened on 24 Apr 1734.
iii. Francois JOUBERT was born in 1735, was christened on 1 Jul 1736, and died circa 1737 at age 2.
iv. Francois JOUBERT was born in 1738 and was christened on 21 Dec 1738.
v. Susanna JOUBERT was born in 1740 and was christened on 28 May 1741.
vi. Josua JOUBERT was born in 1743 and was christened on 7 Jun 1744.
vii. Maria Magdalena JOUBERT was born in 1746 and was christened on 30 Oct 1746.
viii. Anna Francina JOUBERT
ix. Izak Jacob JOUBERT was born in 1750 and was christened on 9 May 1751.
91. Elisabeth CRONJE, daughter of Pierre CRONJE (Stamvader) and Susanne TAILLEFERT, was born in 1711, was christened on 8 Nov 1711, and died in 1786 at age 75. Another name for Elisabeth was Isabeau.
Elisabeth married Francois JOUBERT on 18 Feb 1731.
92. Godlieb Rodulphus OPPERMAN, son of Gottlieb Christian OPPERMAN (Stamvader) and Maria KOSTER, was born in 1729, was christened on 19 Jun 1729, and died circa 1781 at age 52.
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93. Maria Petronella BOCKELENBERG, daughter of Daniel BOCKELENBERG and Elisabeth LORET, was born in 1737 and was christened on 2 Jun 1737.
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94. Diederik KOEKEMOER, son of Joachim KOEKEMOER (Stamvader) and Maria PUTTER, was born in 1716 and was christened on 19 Jul 1716 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Diederik married Catharina VAN WYK, daughter of Willem VAN WYK and Johanna Catharina CAMPHER.
The child from this marriage was: i. Joachim KOEKEMOER was born in 1744 and was christened on 22 Nov 1744.
Diederik next married Jacomina VAN WYK on 22 Apr 1748.
Children from this marriage were: i. Gerrit Jacobus KOEKEMOER was born in 1749 and was christened on 27 Apr 1749. ii. Maria Christina KOEKEMOER
Diederik next married Johanna Elisabeth WAGENAAR, daughter of Johannes Christoffel WAGNER (Stamvader) and Johanna Maria LUBBE, on 10 Apr 1774.
Children from this marriage were: i. Joachim Zacharias KOEKEMOER was born in 1775 and was christened on 27 Sep 1775. ii. Johannes Christoffel KOEKEMOER was born in 1777 and was christened on 27 Apr 1777.
95. Jacomina VAN WYK, daughter of Gerrit Arie VAN WYK and Elisabeth VIVIER, was born in 1727 and was christened on 24 Aug 1727.
Jacomina married Diederik KOEKEMOER on 22 Apr 1748.
Eighth Generation (5th Great-Grandparents)
130. Guillaume DU TOIT (Stamvader) .
Guillaume married Sara Barendts COCHET on 16 May 1688 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was:
i. Helena DU TOIT
131. Sara Barendts COCHET, daughter of Barendt Jansz COCHET and Jannetje Joosse VAN VOOREN, was born circa 1652 in Oosterhoebrug, Walcheren, Netherlands and died in Apr 1714 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 62.
Sara married Pierre DE CLERQ, son of Abraham DE CLERQ and Adriaenken Joos ONOFF, before 1670 in Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were: i. Abraham DE CLERQ (Stamvader) was born on 7 May 1670, was christened on 11 Oct 1671 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands, and died in 1745 in Cape Colony at age 75. ii. Joost DE CLERQ was born in 1678, was christened on 16 Oct 1678 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands, and died circa 1713 in Cape Colony at age 35. iii. Jeanne DE CLERQ was born in 1676 in Middelburg, Zeeland, Netherlands and was christened on 3 May 1676 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands. Another name for Jeanne was Johanna. iv. Barendt DE CLERQ was born in 1674 and was christened on 14 Jan 1674 in Serooskerke, Walcheren, Netherlands.
Sara next married Guillaume DU TOIT (Stamvader) on 16 May 1688 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
136. Pieter VISAGIE (Stamvader) was born in Belgium and died before 1682 in Cape Colony.
Pieter married Catharina KIENS on 21 Jun 1671 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Guilliam VISAGIE ii. Izak VISAGIE was born in 1679, was christened on 10 Dec 1679, and died circa 1680 at age 1.
137. Catharina KIENS was born in Netherlands and died in Cape Colony.
Catharina married Pieter VISAGIE (Stamvader) on 21 Jun 1671 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Catharina next married Wilhelm MEYER (Stamvader) on 10 Apr 1682 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was: i. Lucas MEYER was born in 1684 and was christened on 14 May 1684 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Catharina next married Martin PAULSEN on 6 Aug 1690 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
138. Adriaan Gerrits PRINSLOO (Stamvader), son of Gerrit HENDRIKSZ and Willemtge JANS, was born in 1646 in Tergouw, Gouda, Netherlands, was christened on 30 Dec 1646 in St Janskerk, Gouda, Netherlands, and died circa 1697 in Cape Town, Cape Province at age 51.
Adriaan married Aeltje CLAASEN circa 1680.
Children from this marriage were: i. Gerritje PRINSLOO ii. Alida PRINSLOO was born in 1683 and was christened on 10 Oct 1683 in Cape Town, Cape Province. iii. Nicolaas PRINSLOO was born in 1686 and was christened on 11 Aug 1686 in Cape Town, Cape Province. iv. Joachim PRINSLOO was born in 1689 and was christened on 4 Feb 1689 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
139. Aeltje CLAASEN was born in 1662 in Ameyde, South Holland, Netherlands and was christened circa 1682 in Ameyde, South Holland, Netherlands.
Aeltje married Adriaan Gerrits PRINSLOO (Stamvader) circa 1680.
Aeltje next married Lourens HEYNS on 14 Dec 1698.
140. Jan DE NYS (Stamvader) died in 1713 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Jan married Lysbet Fockese RODA on 8 Aug 1694 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Antje DE NYS was born circa 1697 in Mauritius. ii. Aeltje DE NYS was born in 1699 and was christened on 31 May 1699. Another name for Aeltje was Aletta DE NYS. iii. Jan DE NYS iv. Jacobus DE NYS was born in 1702 and was christened on 18 Mar 1702.
141. Lysbet Fockese RODA .
Lysbet married Jan DE NYS (Stamvader) on 8 Aug 1694 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
146. Pieter VAN DER WESTHUIZEN (Stamvader) was born in Flanders and died in Cape Colony.
Pieter married Maria Hendriks WINKELHAUSEN on 5 Nov 1673.
Children from this marriage were: i. Maria VAN DER WESTHUIZEN ii. Jan VAN DER WESTHUIZEN was born in 1677 and was christened on 9 May 1677. iii. Nicolaas VAN DER WESTHUIZEN was born in 1679, was christened on 7 May 1679 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died on 8 Oct 1736 at age 57. iv. Barend VAN DER WESTHUIZEN was born in 1681, was christened on 16 Mar 1681, and died circa 1713 at age 32. v. Pieter VAN DER WESTHUIZEN was born in 1690, was christened on 10 Sep 1690, and died in 1739 in Cape Colony at age 49. vi. Helena VAN DER WESTHUIZEN was born in 1683 and was christened on 27 Jun 1683.
Pieter next married Eva Gerrits LIGTEHARD on 26 Sep 1706.
147. Maria Hendriks WINKELHAUSEN .
Maria married Hendrik BARENDS.
Maria next married Pieter VAN DER WESTHUIZEN (Stamvader) on 5 Nov 1673.
162. Berend LÖBE (Stamvader) was born in Germany and died in Cape Colony.
Berend married Jacoba BRANDENBURG circa 1696 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Hendrik LUBBE was born in 1697, was christened on 3 Nov 1697 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died circa 1699 at age 2.
ii. Aletta LUBBE was born in 1699, was christened on 14 Jun 1699, and died circa 1754 at age 55.
iii. Hendrik LUBBE was born in 1700 and was christened on 5 Sep 1700 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
iv. Elizabeth LUBBE was born in 1702, was christened on 6 Aug 1702, and died on 13 Mar 1770 on farm "Roodezand", Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 68.
v. Jan LUBBE was born in 1703 and was christened on 23 Sep 1703.
vi. Francois LUBBE was born in 1705 and was christened on 1 Jan 1705.
vii. Catharina LUBBE
viii. Jacobus LUBBE was born in 1707 and was christened on 31 Jul 1707.
ix. Gerrit LUBBE was born in 1708 and was christened on 28 Oct 1708.
x. Johanna LUBBE was born in 1709, was christened on 26 Jan 1710, and died before 1735.
xi. Maria Jacoba LUBBE was born in 1711 and was christened on 20 Dec 1711.
xii. Barend LUBBE was born in 1713 and was christened on 5 Mar 1713 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
163. Jacoba BRANDENBURG was born circa 1675 in Netherlands and died in
Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Jacoba married Berend LÖBE (Stamvader) circa 1696 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
164. Johannes BOCKELENBERG (Stamvader) was born in 1668 in Netherlands and died in 1709 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 41.
Johannes married Magdalena ZAAIMAN, daughter of Daniel ZAAIMAN (Stamvader) and Pieternella VAN MEERHOFF, in 1697 in Mauritius.
Children from this marriage were: i. Petronella BOCKELENBERG was born in 1698 in Mauritius. ii. Johannes BOCKELENBERG was born in 1700 in Mauritius. iii. Anna Elizabeth BOCKELENBERG was born circa 1702 in Mauritius. iv. Susanna BOCKELENBERG was born in 1703 in Mauritius.
Johannes next married Johanna VAN DEN BOSCH on 12 Oct 1705 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Daniel BOCKELENBERG ii. Johanna BOCKELENBERG was born in 1709 and was christened on 13 Oct 1709.
165. Johanna VAN DEN BOSCH, daughter of Jan VAN DEN BOSCH (Stamvader) and Cornelia HELM, was born in 1690 and was christened on 11 Jun 1690.
Johanna married Johannes BOCKELENBERG (Stamvader) on 12 Oct 1705 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Johanna next married Maurits VAN STADEN, son of Maarten VAN STADEN (Stamvader) and Margaretha ERNST, on 13 Apr 1710.
Children from this marriage were: i. Catharina VAN STADEN was born in 1711 and was christened on 26 Jul 1711 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Maurits VAN STADEN was born in 1713 and was christened on 10 Jun 1713 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Johanna next married Jurgen HANEKOM (Stamvader) circa 1713.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Sara HANEKOM was born in 1714, was christened on 2 Dec 1714, and died before 1743.
ii. Albert HANEKOM was born in 1723 and was christened on 17 Jan 1723.
iii. Gesina HANEKOM was born in 1729 and was christened on 1 Jan 1730 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
166. Guillaume LORET (Stamvader) was born in 1671 and died on 5 Jan 1718 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 47.
Guillaume married Isabeau JOUBERT on 23 Jan 1717.
Children from this marriage were: i. Pierre LORET was born in 1710, was christened on 27 Oct 1710, and died circa 1715 at age 5.
ii. Elisabeth LORET
iii. Pieter LORET was born in 1717 and was christened on 4 Apr 1717.
167. Isabeau JOUBERT, daughter of Pierre JOUBERT (Stamvader) and Isabeau RICHARD, was born in 1692. Another name for Isabeau was Elizabeth.
Isabeau married Guillaume LORET (Stamvader) on 23 Jan 1717.
Isabeau next married Paul ROUX, son of Paul ROUX (Stamvader) and Claudine SEUGNET, on 21 May 1719 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Paul ROUX was born in 1722 and was christened on 20 Dec 1722. ii. Anna Claudina ROUX was born in 1725 and was christened on 22 Apr 1725. iii. Johannes Petrus ROUX was born in 1727 and was christened on 2 Nov 1727.
168. Adriaan VAN JAARSVELD (Stamvader) was born in Netherlands and died in 1750 in Cape Colony.
Adriaan married Cornelia NEL on 22 Nov 1711 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Adriaan VAN JAARSVELD was born in 1712 and was christened on 2 Oct 1712 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province. ii. Albertus VAN JAARSVELD iii. Johanna Catharina VAN JAARSVELD was born in 1716 and was christened on 12 Jul 1716. iv. Hester VAN JAARSVELD was born in 1721 and was christened on 24 Aug 1721. v. Willem Adriaan VAN JAARSVELD was born in 1726, was christened on 15 Sep 1726, and died in 1806 at age 80. vi. Rynier VAN JAARSVELD was born in 1730 and was christened on 8 Oct 1730.
169. Cornelia NEL, daughter of Guillaume NEL (Stamvader) and Jeanne DE LA BATTE, was born circa 1694.
Cornelia married Adriaan VAN JAARSVELD (Stamvader) on 22 Nov 1711 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
170. Paul JORDAAN, son of Jean JOURDAN (Stamvader) and Isabeau LE LONG, was born in 1695 and was christened on 25 Sep 1695.
Paul married Rachel NEL.
Children from this marriage were: i. Maria JORDAAN ii. Elisabeth JORDAAN was born circa 1742 and died in 1806 at age 64.
171. Rachel NEL, daughter of Estienne NEL (Stamvader) and Marie Madeleine MARAIS, was born in 1707 and was christened on 10 Jul 1707.
Rachel married Paul JORDAAN.
172. Gottlieb Christian OPPERMAN (Stamvader) was born circa 1696 in Poland and died circa 1737 in Cape Colony at age 41.
Gottlieb married Maria KOSTER on 6 Feb 1729 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Godlieb Rodulphus OPPERMAN ii. Anna Maria OPPERMAN was born in 1734 and was christened on 7 Mar 1734.
173. Maria KOSTER, daughter of Heinrich KOSTER (Stamvader) and Dirkje EVERTS, was born in 1703 and was christened on 18 Mar 1703.
Maria married Conrad FEYT (Stamvader) on 21 Dec 1721.
The child from this marriage was: i. Coenraad Hendrik FEYT was born in 1727, was christened on 14 Dec 1727, and died on 22 Aug 1789 at age 62.
Maria next married Gottlieb Christian OPPERMAN (Stamvader) on 6 Feb 1729 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Maria next married Daniel DE VRIES, son of Hendrik Abraham DE VRIES (Stamvader) and Maria ZAAIMAN, on 25 Jan 1738.
174. Daniel BOCKELENBERG, son of Johannes BOCKELENBERG (Stamvader) and Johanna VAN DEN BOSCH, was born in 1707 and was christened on 17 Jul 1707.
(Duplicate. See Person 82 on Page 1)
175. Elisabeth LORET, daughter of Guillaume LORET (Stamvader) and Isabeau JOUBERT, was born in 1713 and was christened on 30 Sep 1713.
(Duplicate. See Person 83 on Page 1)
176. Johannes VILLION, son of Francois VILLION (Stamvader) and Cornelia CAMPENAAR, was born in 1684, was christened on 24 Sep 1684 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in Jun 1713 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 29.
Johannes married Catharina SNYMAN on 14 Aug 1708.
Children from this marriage were: i. Margaretha VILJOEN was born in 1709 and was christened on 1 Dec 1709 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province. ii. Johannes VILJOEN
177. Catharina SNYMAN, daughter of Christoffel SNYMAN and Marguerite Therese DE SAVOYE, was born in 1691 and was christened on 27 Jan 1692 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province.
Catharina married Johannes VILLION on 14 Aug 1708.
178. Hendrik OLIVIER, son of Ockert Corneliszoon OLIVIER (Stamvader) and Aletta VERWEY, was born in 1700, was christened on 21 Nov 1700 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in 1725 in Het Land Van Waveren, Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 25.
Hendrik married Maria VIVIER on 21 May 1724.
The child from this marriage was: i. Aletta OLIVIER
179. Maria VIVIER, daughter of Abraham VIVIER (Stamvader) and Jacquemine DES PREZ, was born in 1700, was christened on 22 Aug 1700, and died on 8 May 1771 at age 71.
Maria married Hendrik OLIVIER on 21 May 1724.
Maria next married Willem VAN DER VYVER (Stamvader) on 8 Sep 1726.
Children from this marriage were: i. Willem VAN DER VYVER was born in 1727 and was christened on 4 Oct 1727. ii. Bartholomeus VAN DER VYVER was born in 1732 and was christened on 5 Oct 1732.
180. Pierre JOUBERT (Stamvader) was born circa 1664 in La Motte d'Aigues, Provence and died on 30 Jun 1732 in Cape Colony at age 68.
Pierre married Susanne REYNE on 1 Feb 1688 in Waalse Kerk, Brielle.
Pierre next married Isabeau RICHARD in Aug 1688 on the ship "Berg China" on the way to Cape of Good Hope.
Children from this marriage were: i. Josúe JOUBERT was born circa 1689. ii. Jacques JOUBERT was born in 1691. Another name for Jacques was Jacob. iii. Isabeau JOUBERT iv. Pierre JOUBERT was born in 1694 and died before Sep 1730. v. Jean JOUBERT was born in 1695, was christened on 7 Dec 1795 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died before 16 Mar 1738. vi. Francoise JOUBERT was born in 1697 and was christened on 11 Nov 1697 in Paarl, Cape Province. Another name for Francoise was Francina. vii. Louise JOUBERT was born in 1699, was christened on 6 Dec 1699 in Paarl, Cape Province, and died circa 1764 at age 65. viii. Gideon JOUBERT was born on 14 Aug 1704 and died in 1738 at age 34. ix. Maria JOUBERT was born circa 1704 and died before 24 Apr 1746. x. Francois JOUBERT xi. Rachel JOUBERT was born circa 1710.
181. Isabeau RICHARD was born in 1668 in France and died in 1748 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 80.
Isabeau married Pierre MALAN (Stamvader).
Isabeau next married Pierre JOUBERT (Stamvader) in Aug 1688 on the ship "Berg China" on the way to Cape of Good Hope.
182. Pierre CRONJE (Stamvader) was born in 1696 and died on 2 Sep 1718 in Cape Colony at age 22.
Pierre married Susanne TAILLEFERT circa 1709.
Children from this marriage were: i. Maria CRONJE was born in 1710 and was christened on 1 Jun 1710. ii. Elisabeth CRONJE iii. Pierre CRONJE was born in 1713 and was christened on 24 Sep 1713. iv. Anna CRONJE was born in 1715 and was christened on 27 Jan 1715. v. Izak CRONJE was born in 1715 and was christened on 31 May 1716. vi. Magdalena CRONJE was born in 1717 and was christened on 28 Feb 1718.
183. Susanne TAILLEFERT, daughter of Isaac TAILLEFERT (Stamvader) and Susanne BRIET, was born in 1686 and died on 13 Feb 1724 in Cape Colony at age 38.
Susanne married Jean GARDE circa 1700.
Susanne next married Pierre CRONJE (Stamvader) circa 1709.
Susanne next married Jacob NAUDE (Stamvader), son of Philippe NAUDE and Anna ISNARD, circa 1722.
The child from this marriage was: i. Jacob NAUDE was born in 1723, was christened on 1 Aug 1723, and died on 17 Dec 1774 at age 51.
188. Joachim KOEKEMOER (Stamvader) was born in Netherlands and died in Cape Colony.
Joachim married Maria PUTTER.
Children from this marriage were: i. Diederik KOEKEMOER ii. Anna Catharina KOEKEMOER was born in 1720 and was christened on 30 Jun 1720. iii. Cornelia KOEKEMOER was born on 16 Sep 1725 and was christened on 25 Sep 1725 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province. iv. Sara KOEKEMOER was born in 1731 and was christened on 11 Feb 1731 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
189. Maria PUTTER, daughter of Dietrich PUTTER (Stamvader) and Zacharia VISSER, was born circa 1695.
Maria married Joachim KOEKEMOER (Stamvader).
190. Gerrit Arie VAN WYK, son of Arie VAN WYK (Stamvader) and Cornelia HELM, was born in 1704, was christened on 14 Dec 1704, and died before 1740.
Gerrit married Elisabeth VIVIER on 26 Apr 1722 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Gerrit VAN WYK was born in 1723 and was christened on 5 Dec 1723 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Abraham VAN WYK was born in 1725, was christened on 19 Aug 1725, and died on 20 Nov 1793 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 68. iii. Jacomina VAN WYK iv. Catharina Elisabeth VAN WYK was born in 1730 in Cape Town, Cape Province, was christened on 15 Oct 1730, and died on 18 Jul 1777 on farm "De Rogge Cloof", Sutherland at age 47.
Gerrit next married Marie PREVOST, daughter of Abraham PREVOST and Anna VAN MARSEVEEN, on 25 Mar 1731 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Maria Elisabeth VAN WYK was born in 1733 and was christened on 26 Jul 1733 in Cape Town, Cape Province. ii. Anna VAN WYK was born in 1734 and was christened on 21 Nov 1734 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province. iii. Elsje VAN WYK was born in 1736 and was christened on 21 Oct 1736.
Gerrit next married Maria Magdalena ECKHOFF, daughter of Matthys Hendrik ECKHOFF and Elisabeth VIVIER, on 2 Nov 1738 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Arie Willem VAN WYK was born in 1738 and was christened on 2 Nov 1738 in Paarl, Cape Province. ii. Catharina Elisabeth VAN WYK was born in 1741 and was christened on 22 Jan 1741. iii. Sophia VAN WYK was born in 1743 and was christened on 3 Mar 1743 in Cape Town, Cape Province. iv. Jacoba VAN WYK was born in 1745, was christened on 8 Aug 1745, and died in 1798 at age 53. v. Maria Margaretha VAN WYK was born in 1748 and was christened on 18 Feb 1748. vi. Agnita Elisabeth VAN WYK was born in 1751, was christened on 21 Nov 1751, and died on 7 Mar 1801 at age 50. vii. Gerrit Matthys VAN WYK was born in 1754 and was christened on 15 Sep 1754. viii. Jacomina VAN WYK was born in 1756, was christened on 14 Mar 1756 in Swartland (Tulbagh), Cape Province, and died before 1779. ix. Anna Cecilia VAN WYK was born in 1758 and was christened on 5 Mar 1758. x. Christina Magdalena VAN WYK was born in 1760 and was christened on 4 Jul 1760 in Tulbagh, Cape Province. xi. Martha Elisabeth VAN WYK was born on 24 Mar 1762 in Roggeveld (Clanwilliam), Cape Colony, was christened on 2 Oct 1762 in Tulbagh, Cape Province, and died on 24 Aug 1838 in farm "Klipfontein", Agter Hantam, Cape Province at age 76. xii. Christoffel Hendrik VAN WYK was born in 1764 and was christened on 6 Oct 1764 in Tulbagh, Cape Province.
191. Elisabeth VIVIER, daughter of Abraham VIVIER (Stamvader) and Jacquemine DES PREZ, was born in 1698 and was christened on 12 Feb 1698.
Elisabeth had a relationship with Charl Prieur DU PLESSIS, son of Jean Prieur DU PLESSIS (Stamvader) and Marie Madeleine MENANTEAU. This couple did not marry.
Their child was: i. Elizabeth DU PLESSIS was born in 1717 and was christened on 31 Jan 1717 in Paarl, Cape Province.
Elisabeth married Nicolas LABAT on 3 Jun 1717.
Elisabeth next married Matthys Hendrik ECKHOFF, son of Heinrich ECKHOFF (Stamvader) and Marie LE FEBRE, on 22 Oct 1719 in Paarl, Cape Province.
The child from this marriage was: i. Maria Magdalena ECKHOFF was born in 1721, was christened on 15 Jun 1721, and died on 6 Aug 1776 in Tulbagh, Cape Province at age 55.
Elisabeth next married Gerrit Arie VAN WYK on 26 Apr 1722 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Ninth Generation (6th Great-Grandparents)
262. Barendt Jansz COCHET .
Barendt married Jannetje Joosse VAN VOOREN.
The child from this marriage was: i. Sara Barendts COCHET
263. Jannetje Joosse VAN VOOREN .
Jannetje married Barendt Jansz COCHET.
276. Gerrit HENDRIKSZ .
Gerrit married Willemtge JANS.
The child from this marriage was: i. Adriaan Gerrits PRINSLOO (Stamvader)
277. Willemtge JANS .
Willemtge married Gerrit HENDRIKSZ.
330. Jan VAN DEN BOSCH (Stamvader) was born in Netherlands and died in Cape Colony.
Jan married Cornelia HELM on 28 Mar 1688 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Children from this marriage were: i. Catharina VAN DEN BOSCH was born in 1688 and was christened on 29 Jan 1689. ii. Johanna VAN DEN BOSCH iii. Johannes VAN DEN BOSCH was born in 1692 and was christened on 13 Apr 1692.
331. Cornelia HELM, daughter of Hans HELM (Stamvader) and Geertruy WILLEMSE, was born in 1673, was christened on 17 Sep 1673 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died circa 21 Jun 1720 in Cape Colony at age 47.
Cornelia married Jan VAN DEN BOSCH (Stamvader) on 28 Mar 1688 in Cape Town, Cape Province.
Cornelia next married Arie VAN WYK (Stamvader) in Oct 1693.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Roelof VAN WYK was born in 1694, was christened on 5 Sep 1694 in Cape Town, Cape Province, and died in Jul 1746 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 52. ii. Aletta VAN WYK was born in 1696 and was christened on 15 Jul 1696 in Cape Town, Cape Province. iii. Willem VAN WYK was born in 1698, was christened on 19 Jan 1698 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died circa 1771 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 73. iv. Sara VAN WYK was born in 1699 and was christened on 29 Nov 1699 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province. v. Adrianus VAN WYK was born in 1701, was christened on 25 Dec 1701 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died in 1703 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 2.
vi. Maria VAN WYK was born in 1703.
vii. Gerrit Arie VAN WYK
viii. Adriaan VAN WYK was born circa 1705 and died before 1771. ix. Gerrit VAN WYK was born in 1707, was christened on 14 Dec 1707 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died on 12 Aug 1708 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 1. x. Catharina VAN WYK was born in 1710 and was christened on 20 Jul 1710 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
xi. Hester VAN WYK was born in 1712 and was christened on 23 Oct 1712 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province.
Cornelia next married Jacob KUTZER (Stamvader), son of Wenzeslaus KUTZER and Unknown, on 15 Sep 1717.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Johannes Jacobus COETZER was born in 1716 and was christened on 24 May 1716.
ii. Dorothea COETZER was born in 1717, was christened on 19 Sep 1717, and died before 1746.
334. Pierre JOUBERT (Stamvader) was born circa 1664 in La Motte d'Aigues, Provence and died on 30 Jun 1732 in Cape Colony at age 68.
(Duplicate. See Person 180 on Page 1)
335. Isabeau RICHARD was born in 1668 in France and died in 1748 in Drakenstein (Paarl), Cape Province at age 80.
(Duplicate. See Person 181 on Page 1)
338. Guillaume NEL (Stamvader) was born in 1663 and died circa 1734 in Cape Colony at age 71.
Guillaume married Jeanne DE LA BATTE on 3 May 1685 in Amsterdam, Netherlands.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Jean NEL was born circa 1687 in Amsterdam, Netherlands and died in 1740 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 53. ii. Jeanne NEL was born in 1688 in Rouen, Normandy, France, was christened in 1700 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province, and died in Cape Colony. Another name for Jeanne was Johanna NEL. iii. Esaias NEL was born in 1691, was christened on 27 May 1691, and died in 1745 in Cape Colony at age 54. iv. Cornelia NEL v. Elias NEL was born in 1701 and was christened on 28 Jul 1701. vi. Adriaan NEL was born in 1703, was christened on 23 Dec 1703, and died in Feb 1769 in Stellenbosch, Cape Province at age 66. vii. Pieter Willem NEL was born circa 1704. viii. Hester NEL was born in 1706, was christened on 1 Aug 1706, and died circa 1785 at age 79.
339. Jeanne DE LA BATTE was born circa 1663 in Samour, Loire River, France and died in Cape Colony.
Jeanne married Guillaume NEL (Stamvader) on 3 May 1685 in Amsterdam, Netherlands.
340. Jean JOURDAN (Stamvader), son of (Unknown) JOURDAN and Jeanne MARTHE, was born in 1660 in Cabriere, France and died before Jan 1699 in Cape Colony.
Jean married Isabeau LE LONG in 1690.
Children from this marriage were: i. Paul JORDAAN ii. Louis JOURDAN was born in 1697 and was christened on 15 Jul 1697. iii. Jan JORDAAN was born circa 1700.
341. Isabeau LE LONG, daughter of (Unknown) LE LONG
Boodskap 1b. Re: Kwartierstaat van Guillaume Johannes Oberholster (zer) gebore 14 Posted by: "Elizabeth Oberholster" [email protected] lizoberholster Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:04 am (PST)
Cornel,
Jy bly ‘n superster!
Stel jy enigsins belang in fotos van hierdie mense, hul grafte en dokumente? Ek het nogal heelwat wat ons in Des / Jan geneem het.
Beste groete
Liz
Boodskap 2a. Re: VAN RENSBURG Posted by: "Willeen Olivier" [email protected] willempie5 Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:49 am (PST)
Berna,
As jy gou in Google Earth ingaan, sal jy sien dat as Arundel 'n paar kilometer suid van Colesberg is, dit nie eers naby die Gariep Dam is nie. Daar is 'n baie kleiner dam amper reg suid van Colesberg, wat duidelik sigbaar is, maar hy is nie benoem op Google nie.
Willeen Willeen Olivier Rooihuiskraal Kotzé, van Wyk, Olivier, Bosman, en al hulle voorgeslagte ...
Boodskap 2b. Re: VAN RENSBURG Posted by: "jacokuhn" [email protected] jacokuhn Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:41 am (PST)
...word versoek om met my in verbinding te tree. Ds Gert van Rensburg gert@... "
Liewe vriende
Ek soek al meer as 'n jaar na my oumagrootjie VAN RENSBRUG. Kan iemand asb help - ek kan nie die e-pos adres van Ds Van Rensburg uitmaak nie?
Besonderhede waaroor ek wel beskik:
Cecilia Danielina Maria van Rensburg *c1885 x 9 Oct 1904 Nicolaas Jacobus Els. Daar loop stories in die familie dat sy as klein dogtertjie op Paul Kruger se skoot sou gesit het omdat haar ouers met die president bevriend was. Blykbaar was haar Pa 'n landdros of magistraat iewers in die Tvl. Sy sou later na die Oo-Kaap trek waar sy met Els getroud is.
Dankie
Jaco
Boodskap 2c. Re: VAN RENSBURG Posted by: "Willeen Olivier" [email protected] willempie5 Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:49 am (PST) [email protected]
Willeen Willeen Olivier Rooihuiskraal Kotzé, van Wyk, Olivier, Bosman, en al hulle voorgeslagte ...
Boodskap 3. Die huis op Rooigrond naby Mafikeng Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:46 am (PST)
Casparus Johannes Greeff (*1876) en sy vrou, Maria Susanna Magdalena Nell (*1880) het veertien kinders gehad. Hulle was diamant delwers by Lichtenburg gewees. Later het hulle in hierdie huis op Rooigrond gewoon: http://www.greeff.info/tng01/showmedia.php?mediaID=537&medialinkID=789
Die motor in die foto het behoort aan hulle seun Casparus Johannes Greeff, van wie ek weet dat:
"Caspar Greeff was Secretary for Justice and Head of the Diamond Commission and after that Head of the Housing Commission in the government of BJ Vorster."
Staan die huis in die foto nog? Herken iemand dit? Francois Greeff ______Om by ons Greeff kuiernet ('n epos netwerk) aan te sluit, stuur asseblief 'n epos aan [email protected], met net die enkele woord, subscribe, as onderwerp en as inhoud.
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Boodskap 4a. Re: Gedenkboek van die ossewaens op die pad van Suid-Afrika:Eeufees, Posted by: "Hennie" [email protected] saledore Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:52 am (PST)
Beste lyslede,
Uit die "Bloedrivierse Eeufees Gedenkboek" van 1938 van A G Du Toit & dr Louis Steenkamp is daar 'n goudmyntjie van inligting oor persone wat in die slag geveg het, met kort biografise inligting oor verskeies. O.a. oor Zacharias de Beer wat getroud was met weduwee van Theunis de Klerk, wie te Slagtersnek omgekom het.
Voorts is daar ook foto van "Ou Grietjie" wat toendertyd glo in die Tvl. Museum was. Is hy nog daar wonder mens?
Bg. boek bevat 'n uitgebreide lys van name van deelnemers aan die slag. Ook word gemeld dat Alex. Biggar (Kolonel of Majoor) vir Dick King gestuur het om die Voortrekkers by Bloukrans te gaan waarsku, maar sy perd kon nie deur die vol riviere kom om betyds te wees nie Een van Biggar se twee seuns is vermoor te Blauwkrans.
Boodskap 4b. Re: Gedenkboek van die ossewaens op die pad van Suid-Afrika:Eeufees, Posted by: "Ariel Rudolph" [email protected] arielrudolph Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:16 am (PST)
Almal,
Die Voortrekker Museum het ook 'n boek uitgereik genoemd "Hulle was daar..." met die storie en lys name van almal wat in die veg delgeneem het. Asook almal wie deelgeneem het in die veilings van die buit van die Zoeleos.
Groete -- Ariel Israel (Tans in die VSA alweer) Navorsing: Die hele RUDOLPH van http://rudolph-gen.com
Boodskap 4c. Re: Gedenkboek van die ossewaens op die pad van Suid-Afrika:Eeufees, Posted by: "Louis Hurn" [email protected] ljhurn Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:31 am (PST)
Hallo almal.
Terwyl hierdie op die tafel is wil ek graag weet of daar enige data bestaan aangaande die name van die vroue en kinders wat by die Slag van Bloedrivier was? Daar was heelwat van my voorsade nl Oosthuizen, Bester, Bantjes en Botha betrokke.
Groete Louis
Boodskap 5. Gedenkboek van die ossewaens op die pad van Suid-Afrika:Eeufees, 183 Posted by: "Hetta Scholtz" [email protected] hester_scholtz Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:29 am (PST)
Hallo Hennie
Grietjie is op die oomblik by die Voortekkermonument. Daar is 'n foto van haar by http://public.fotki.com/SAgenealogie/kanonne/
Groete Hetta Scholtz
Boodskap 6. Keet navraag Posted by: "Andrew Kok" [email protected] jakok2001 Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:35 am (PST)
Goeie middag
Is daar dalk enigiemand wat navorsing doen oor die Keet familie? Ek is op soek na die volgende asb.:
Hein Keet (die seun van Gysbert Keet en Aletta Susanna Jordaan) * ca 1870-1880, + na 1931 X Dorothea Terblanche
Enige hulp sal waardeer word.
Dankie
Andrew
******************************** Dr J Andrew Kok Deputy Director: Knowledge Management Department of Social Development 7th floor, Union House, Queen Victoria St, Cape Town 021 483 6201
Boodskap 7.1. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:58 am (PST)
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG DEN 24 DEN DECEMBER 1865
587 Jacobus Daniel geb 4 December 1865
Ouders: Gerhardus VENTER
Anna Catharina VENTER / VENTER
Get: Jacobus Daniel VENTER en
Martha Maria Magdalena VENTER / ROBBERTSE
Jan Louis VENTER en
Suzanna Catharina Petronella VENTER / VENTER
Petrus Jacobus Stefanus Johannes Lourens VENTER en
Anna Suzanna Catharina VENTER / VAN DYK
588 Anna Elisabet geb 18 July 1865
Ouders: Abraham Christiaan Johannes DUVENAGE
Louisa Jacoba DUVENAGE / VAN HEERDEN
Get: Abraham Petrus DUVENAGE en
Johanna Catharina Elisabetha DUVENAGE / JAKOBS
Stephanus Martinus VENTER en
Hendrina Jacoba VENTER / DUVENAGE
P 115 1865
589 Martha Maria Magdalena geb 10 December 1865
Ouders: Andries Hendrik POTGIETER
Aletta Sofeia POTGIETER / VENTER
Get: Jacobus Daniel VENTER en
Martha Maria Magdalena VENTER / ROBBERTSE
Jacobus Daniel VENTER en
Cornelia Sofeia VENTER / VAN DYK
590 Elisabetha Johanna Willemina geb 18 Nov 1865
Ouders: Karel Andreas SMIT
Elisabetha Johanna Willemina SMIT / DE BEER
Get: Alewyn Petrus BOTHA en
Emmerencie Adriana BOTHA / GEYSER
Johannes Joachim DE BEER en
Elisabetha Willemina DE BEER / SMIT
591 Christiaan Martinus geb 18 Juny 1865
Ouders: Johannes Joachim DE BEER
Elisabetha Willemina DE BEER / SMIT
Get: Alewyn Petrus BOTHA en
Emmerencie Adriana BOTHA / GEYSER
Karel Andreas SMIT en
Elisabetha Johanna Willemina SMIT / DE BEER
P 116 1865
592 Frederik Jacobus geb 15 Oct 1865
Ouders: David Benjamin SNYMAN
Martha Cornelia Maria Catharina SNYMAN / DE BEER
Get: Frederik Jacobus SNYMAN en
Judith Magdalena SNYMAN / BADENERS
Gideon Johannis SNYMAN en
Cornelia Hendrina SNYMAN / DUVENAGE
593 Jacobus Daniel geb 22 Nov 1865
Ouders: Jacobus Daniel VENTER
Catharina Maria VENTER / DORFLING
Get: Stefanus Martinus VENTER
Schalk Willem VAN WYK en
Catharina jacoba VAN WYK / MEYER
594 Anna Suzanna Catharina geb 21 Aug 1865
Ouders: Petrus Jacobus Stefanus Johannes VENTER
Anna Suzanna Catharina VENTER / VAN DYK
Get: Daniel Jacobus VENTER en
Johanna Christina VENTER / VAN DYK
Jacobus Daniel VENTER en
Catharina Maria VENTER / DORFLING
595 Martha Catharina geb 30 April 1865
Ouders: Philippus Arnoldus VENTER
Anna Suzanna Cecilia VENTER / ELOF
Get: Johannes Hendrik HATTINK en
Martha Catharina HATTINK / SNYMAN
Willem Christiaan VENTER en
Elisabetha Louisa VENTER / POTGIETER
P 117 1865
596 Gert Petrus geb 17 Oct 1865
Ouders: Gert Petrus VAN WYK
Anna Maria Adriana VAN WYK / BREEDT
Get: Pieter Johannis Leendert ROETS en
Anna Francina ROETS / ERASMUS
Lourens Lucas Petrus BREEDT en
Catharina Aletta BRREDT / VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
597 Roelof Johannis geb 13 Sept 1865
Ouders: Roelof Johannis STRYDOM
Christina Elisabetha STRYDOM / NAGEL
Get: Stephanus Andries VAN EMMENIS en
Anna Francina VAN EMMENIS / ROETS
Jacob Abraham BOTIS en
Suzanna Aletta BOTIS / VAN EMMENIS
598 Frederik Johannis geb 24 Nov 1865
Ouders: Piet GROBLER
Pieter Johanna GROBLER / BOTHA
Get: Hermanus Jacobus POTGIETER en
Johanna Magdalena Elisabetha POTGIETER / ROOS
Johannis Frederik BOTHA en
Maria Aletta BOTHA / HATTINK
Lourens Abraham JAKOBS en
Josina Maria Magdalena JAKOBS / ROOS
599 Cecilia Johanna Catharina Elisabetha geb 8 Oct 1865
Ouders: Nicolaas Johannis GROBLER
Willemina Pieternella GROBLER / DU PREZ
Get: Pieter Daniel Andries Charles DU PREZ en
Gertruida Aletta BOTHA
Pieter GROBLER
Johanna GROBLER / BOTHA
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 7.2. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:00 am (PST)
P 118 1865
600 Johannis Hendrik Jacobus geb 15 Maart 1865
Ouders: Cornelis Abraham Willem VAN WYK
Susanna Margarietha VAN WYK / FORTMAN
Get: Gert Petrus VAN WYK en
Anna maria Adriana VAN WYK / BREEDT
Frans Petrus Willem VAN WYK en
Maria Pieternella VAN WYK / DE BEER
601 Maria Helena Abigail geb 18 Sept 1865
Ouders: Hendrik Mattheus Philippus SANDERS (geen lidmaat)
Cornelia Johanna SANDERS / BODES
Get: Hendrik Rutgen SCHNELL – doopvader
Antoinetta Dorothea SCHNELL / FORTMAN
Cornelia Johanna DE ZOUSA/ DU PLOOY
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG DEN 31STEN DECEMBER 1865
602 Hester Maria geb 3 October 1865
Ouders: Jacobus Daniel VENTER
Anna Sofeia Catharina VENTER / VENTER
Get: Stefanus Martinus VENTER en
Hester maria VENTER / ROBBERTSE
David Schalk VAN DYK en
Pieternella Johanna VAN DYK / VENTER
Jacobus Daniel VENTER en
Cornelia Sofeia VENTER / VAN DYK
P 119 1866
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG DEN 7 DEN JANUARY 1866
603 Suzanna Carolina Willemina Dorothea geb 20 Dec 1865
Ouders: Willem Andries NEL
Anna Sofeia NEL / ROBBERTSE
Get: Susanna Carolina Willemina NEL / COMBRINK
Johannes Augustinus BREEDT en
Dorothea Magdalena Carolina BREEDT / COMBRINK
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG DEN 21 DEN JANUARY 1866
604 Maria Magdalena geb 4 January 1866
Ouders: Johann HEINLEIN
Justina Geertruida HEINLEIN / FOURIE wed KRAMERS ?
Get: Johannes Jacobus KLOPPER en
Maria Jacoba KLOPPER / MINNAAR
Gert FOURIE en
Johanna FOURIE / RAATS
605 Petrus Christoffel geb 7 Juny 1866 (moet seker 1865 wees ? )
Ouders: Petrus Christoffel VERCEUIL
Maria Elisabetha VERCEUIL / OLIVIER
Get: Frederik Johannes VERCEUIL en
Wendelina Catharina VERCEUIL / KOETZER
Louw Erasmus SMIT en
Cornelia Odelia SMIT / OLVIER
P 120 1866
GEDOOPT OP DE PLAATS STERKLOOP VAN DEN OUDERLING P.J.L. VENTER DE VOLGENDE KINDEREN OP 28 JANUARY 1866
606 Françina Magdalena geb 23 Mei 1865
Ouders: François Nicolaas VAN DEN BERG
Maria Catharina VAN D EN BERG / BOTHA
Get: Alewyn Petrus BOTHA en
Emmerencie Adriana BOTHA / GEYSER
Teunis DU PREEZ
Gabriel Nicolaas VAN DEN BERG en
Maria Catharina VAN DEN BERG / DU PLESSIS
607 Johanna Pieternella geb 5 Sept 1865
Ouders: Pieter Johannes Lodewyk VENTER
Maria Isabella VENTER / VAN NIEKERK
Get: Pieter Johannes Lodewyk VENTER en
Maria Aletta VENTER / DE BEER
Johannes Hermanus VENTER en
Elsje Catharina VENTER / VENTER
608 Aletha Sofeia geb 1 Dec 1865
Ouders: Jan Louis VENTER
Aletha Sofeia VENTER / VENTER
Get: David Jacobus KRÜGER en
Pieternella Christina KRÜGER / VENTER
Jan Louis VENTER en
Jacoba Aletha Frederika VENTER / DORFELING
P 121 1866
609 Willem Frans geb 6 Mei 1864
Ouders: Adolf BRONKHORST – geen lidmaat
Martha Hendrina VAN HEERDEN
Get: Jan Louis VENTER – doopvader
Aletha Sofeia VENTER / VENTER
Willem Andreas NEL en
Hester Elisabet NEL / BRONKHORST
TE MACHAPAANSPOORT GEDOOPT TEN HUISE VAN DEN OUDERLING P.J. V.D. WESTHUISEN DEN 30 STE JANUARY 1866
610 Maria Magdalena Isabella geb 11 December 1865
Ouders: Lourens Christiaan DE CLERQ
Jacomina Dorothea DE CLERQ / SNYMAN
Get: Petrus Johannis Lourens VENTER en
Maria Magdalena Isabella VENTER / DE CLERQ
Matthys Martinus DU PLESSIS en
Jacoba Francina DU PLESSIS
TE MACHAPAANSPOORT GEDOOPT OP DEN 25 DEN MAART 1866
611 Helena Petronella Maria geb 4 Dec 1865
Ouders: Matthys Martinus BEZUIDENHOUT
Johanna Susara BEZUIDENHOUT / GILDENHUIS
Get: Jacobus Nicolaas GILDENHUIS en
Helena Petronella Maria GILDENHUIS / JONKER
Wynand Karel BEZUIDENHOUT en
Anna Catharina Susara BOOYENS
612 Jeanetta maria geb 1 Augustus 1864
Ouders: Martinus Johannis VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
Jeanetta Maria VAN DER WESTHUIZEN / ROBINSON – niet lidmaten
Get: Matteus Jacobus VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
Johanna Maria VAN DER WESTHUIZEN / DE LANGE – doopouders
Petrus Jacobus VAN DER WESTHUIZEN en
Johanna Adriana VENTER
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 8. Re: Bresler/van Wyk Bresler / Burger Bresler/ Warnich B Posted by: "David Jamieson" [email protected] davidkjamieson Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:11 am (PST)
Goeiemiddag Ferdie,
Ek sluit hierin inligting wat ek vanaf Lynn Couperthwaite in Australia ontvang het wat van belang mag wees. Ja, die Steyn, Bresler, Burger, de Jager, van Wyk en Warnich families vanaf die Riversdal area het baie met mekaar getrou gedurende die 1800's.
Groete uit Montrose.
David
Couperthwaite
I have sent copies of all the Death Notices to eGGSA - address: http://www.eGGSA.org/ Go to 'Contents' Download library - then type Bresler into the Search Gallery box Should come up with heaps of info there...... also gravestones.
This will be a lot easier than me sending you all the death notices.
If this helps here are my findings:
BRESLER / STEYN
c3: Johannes Augustus BRESLER born 18 Sep 1816 Spiegelrivier, Riversdale, Cape, christened in Swellendam 17 Nov 1816 and married 15 Feb 1841 Riversdale to Wilhelmina Susanna Jacoba STEYN christened 21 July 1822 daughter of Pieter Gerbrand STEYN and Anna Maria Johanna ACKERMAN. Wilhelmina is a niece of the Hermanus Egbertus STEYN who was the original owner of the farm from which the family sold a portion to start the town Riversdale. Johannes and Wilhelmina had issue: d1: Johannes Augustus BRESLER born 25 Feb 1849 christened 21 Oct 1849 Riversdale, Cape. Wilhelmina Susanna Jacoba is his twin. Married Elsje Sofia Johanna de JAGER . Johannes and Elsje had issue: e1: Johannes Augustus BRESLER born 4 Feb 1882 christened 5 Mar 1882 Riversdale, Cape. d2: Wilhelmina Susanna Jacoba BRESLER born 25 Feb 1849 christened 21 Oct 1849 Riversdale, Cape. Johannes Augustus is her twin. d3: Maria Helena Philippina BRESLER born 20 Jan 1851 christened 5 Aug 1851 Riversdale, Cape – probably died before Mar 1860. d4: Jacoba Elizabeth BRESLER born 11 July 1852 christened 3 Oct 1852 Riversdale, Cape. d5: Christiaan Jacobus BRESLER born 29 Aug 1854 christened 19 Nov 1854 Riversdale, Cape. Married 29 July 1879 in Riversdale, Cape to Stentia Sophia WARNICH born 1 Nov 1858 Heidelberg, Cape. Stentia daughter of Johannes Christiaan WARNICH and Elizabeth Jacoba Francina van WYK Christiaan and Stentia had issue: e1: Hans Jurgen BRESLER born abt 1877 died Boer War 1900 was in Windburg Commando e2: Christiaan BRESLER (Krisjan) married Florence NN Christiaan and Flornce had issue: f1: George BRESLER f2: Gavin BRESLER f3: NN BRESLER (son) e3: Elizabeth Jacoba Francina BRESLER born 12 Aug 1880 christened 26 Dec 1880 Riversdale, Cape. Witnesses to the christening were her maternal grandparents Johannes Christiaan Warnick and Elizabeth Jacoba van Wyk e4: Johannes Augustus BRESLER (Jannie) born 25 Apr 1882 Riversdale, Cape Farmed on the farm Tiervlei in the Riversdale district. e5: Wilhelmina Susanna Jacoba BRESLER born 17 Sept 1884 Riversdale, Cape. Married Nn VALENTINE Had twin daughters f1: Madeline VALENTINE f2: NN VALENTINE e6: Anna Maria Johanna BRESLER born 18 Feb 1889 Riversdale, Cape. Married NN de JAGER. Had only one child: f1: Harriet de JAGER e7: Isabella BRESLER cared for Jacobus after their mother died. Married three times the last one NN WOLHUTER e8: Jacobus Martinus BRESLER born 28 Apr 1903 Riversdale - died Glencoe. Married 1928 in the Groote Kerk in Cape Town to Elizabeth Johanna van WYK born 11 Oct 1908 Sutherland, Cape – died 22 Feb 1971 Ladysmith, Natal Jacobus and Elizabeth had issue: f1: Christiaan BRESLER married Martie NN – divorced. Martie remarried and had the childrens names changed by deed poll to her new husbands name. Christiaan and Martie had issue: g1: Jacobus Martinus BRESLER g2: Christiaan BRESLER f2: Jacobus Martinus BRESLER born Apr 1925. Married Babs NN. Divorced g1: Suretha BRESLER married but husband died in a car accident. She remarried and has 2 children – no names g2: Lorinda BRESLER married NN McGREGOR – 2 children f3: Stephanus Petrus BRESLER born Aug 1926 – died 3 July 1994. Married 7 Nov 1970 to Elsa du TOIT born ? Adopted a son: g1: Martin BRESLER f4: Johanna Christina BRESLER born 13 Jan 1930 - died July 2005. Married Berrie de LANGE born 29 Apr 1922 – died 23 May 1985. Johanna and Berrie had issue: g1: Elizabeth Catharina de LANGE born 3 Jan 1957 m Jacobus Albertus de WET – Divorced. h1: Pieter de WET g2: Judith de LANGE born 22 Apr 1959 married Joshua v DYK h1: Johanna Christina van DYK h2: Josh van DYK g3: Christina de LANGE born 23 May 1963 g4: Berrie de LANGE born 25 Apr 1967 married Magda NN h1: Berrie van DYK f5: Johannes BRESLER born 28 Nov 1941 – died Nov 2004. Never married. f6: Stencia BRESLER born 23 Oct 1943 Married 3 Oct to Johannes ESTERHUIZEN. Stencia and Johannes had issue: g1: Janine ESTERHUIZEN born 10 Dec 1977 m Deon NN - Divorced. Janine and Deon had issue: h1: Hein NN h2: Jané NN Janine remarried Peet JOUBERT Janine and Peet had issue: h3: Zander JOUBERT g2: Johannes ESTERHUIZEN b1 Dec 1972 g3: Stencia ESTERHUIZEN f7: Cornelius BRESLER (Corrie) born 24 Apr 1947 Ladysmith, Natal. Married 5 Sept 1969 to Magdalena Elizabeth DANNHAUSER born 6 June 1949 – died 1 Aug 2003 Corrie and Magdalena had issue: g1: Riaan BRESLER born 3 Oct 1973 Florida, Transvaal. Married 27 Mar 1997 to Sheryl Wendy PROMNITZ born 11 July Riaan and Sheryl have issue: h1: Jeunesse Clair BRESLER born 21 Aug 1997 f8: Wilhelm Paulus BRESLER born 20 Dec 1948. Involved with a girl from Israel. Left RSA in 1976 – no contact since. d6: Hermanus Jacobus Egtbertus BRESLER born 7 Mar 1858 christened 27 June 1858 Riversdale, Cape. d7: Maria Helena Philippina BRESLER born 2 Mar 1860 christened 6 May 1860 Riversdale, Cape. d8: Christina Magdalena BRESLER born 6 Nov 1863 christened 25 Dec 1863 Riversdale, Cape.
and
c5: Frans Rynhard BRESLER born 17 Nov 1820 christened in Swellendam 20 Dec1820 – died abt 1896. Married 28 Aug 1847 to Maria Helena Phillipina STEYN born 13 May 1829 fifth child of Pieter Gerbrand STEYN and Anna Maria Johanna ACKERMAN. Frans and Maria had issue: d1: Anna Maria Helena BRESLER born 29 June 1848 christened 6 Aug 1848 Riversdale, Cape d2: Isabella Hermina BRESLER born 11 May 1850 christened 7 July 1850 Riverdsale, Cape Married abt 1870 in Riversdale to Mattheus Ferdinand KLEYNHANS (IGI) d3: Casparus BRESLER born 5 Mar 1852 christened 25 Apr 1852 Riversdale, Cape – died 3 March 1930 at home Nortinview farm, Pretoria district, Tvl. First married to Anna Elizabeth Maria van WYK – died 26 June 1918 in Tvl. Casparus second marriage at the Nederduitse Kerk, Elofsdal was to Geziena de BEER widow of Nicolaas JB de BEER. Casparus was a labourer on the farm Noutinview in the Pretoria district Casparus and Anna had issue: e1: Wilhelmina Susanna Jacoba BRESLER born 4 Sept 1874 – died 1947 OFS (IGI info) married Andries Stephanus Du PLESSIS died 1935 e2: Barend Gerhardus BRESLER e3: Casparus Johannes Rynhardt BRESLER born 1879 Riversdale, Cape – died 10 Sept 1951 of a coronary thrombosis with chronic bronchitis, at home 555 Jacob St, Gezina, Pretoria and is buried in the new cemetery in Pretoria. Casparus occupation at the time of his death is shown as ‘ploegbaas’ working for the Stadsraad van Pretoria. He had been pensioned by the mines on a phthysis pension (tering). Married in Pretoria to Johanna Elizabeth Prinsloo. Casparus and Johanna had issue: f1: Hester Sophia Elizabeth BRESLER f2: Anna Elizabeth Maria BRESLER f3: Johanna Elizabeth BRESLER f4: Johannes Augustus BRESLER f5: Elizabeth Johanna BRESLER f6: Barend Gerhardus BRESLER e4: Maria Helena Philippina BRESLER born 3 July 1881 christened 16 Nov 1881 Riversdale, Cape. Not mentioned on her father’s death notice e5: Dina Elizabeth M BRESLER e6: Pieter Benjamin BRESLER born 1 Dec 1886 in Riversdale, Cape – died 25 Jan 1969 Pretoria, Tvl. Married in Hopetown, Cape to Johanna Christina Nn. Pieter was a SAR pensioner at the time of his death and his address is shown as Broederstroom, in the Pretoria District, Tvl Pieter and Johanna had issue: f1: Casparus Johannes Reinhardt BRESLER f2: Charles Henry John BRESLER f3: Maria Magdalena BRESLER married Nn LOOTS e7: Stoffelina Catharina Elizabeth BRESLER born abt 1868 Cape – died 8 June 1896 at home on farm in Winburg, Free State. Stoffelina married Andries Johannes Stephanus van Wyk and they farmed on Rietfontein in the Winburg District. Stoffelina and Johannes had issue: f1: Anna Maria Elizabeth van WYK d4: Maria Helena Philippina BRESLER born 19 Mar 1854 christened 18 Jun 1854 Riversdale, Cape. d5: Pieter Gerbrand BRESLER born 19 Sept 1856 christened 28 Dec 1856 Riversdale, Cape. Married Cornelia Magdalena van ZYL Pieter and Cornelia had issue: e1: Frans Rynhard BRESLER born 30 July 1878 christened 17 Nov 1878 Riversdale, Cape. His Grandparents Frans Rynhard Bresler and Maria Helena Philippina Steyn were witnesses at his baptism. In 1918 Frans was living in Parow. e2: Maria BRESLER married Nn van NIEKERK in 1918 they were living in Parow. e3: Johanna BRESLER married Nn PIENAAR in 1918 they were living in Parow. e4: Cornelia Magdalena BRESLER (Maria) born abt 1885 married abt 1903 Arend Frederik Petrus CARSTENS born 12 July 1884 Swartland, Cape, South Africa. In 1918 they were living in Parow. Cornelia and AFP had issue: f1: Pieter Gerbrand Bresler CARSTENS f2: Dinah E F CARSTENS born 11 Nov 1919 in Parow,CP,S Africa. She married in Observatory, Cape Town to Ronald Truter ASPELING born on 5 Nov 1915 in Beaufort West - died on 31 Aug 1975 in Milnerton, Cape Town. Ronal was the son of John Gustaaf ASPELING "Johnnie" born 28 Feb 1879 - died abt 1946 and Mildred Henrietta GILLMAN born 20 Aug 1869 in Springbok - died 20 Apr 1928,Beaufort W Dinah and Ronald had issue: g1: Lynette Mildred ASPELING was born on 6 Apr 1944 g2: Barbara Maria ASPELING was born on 18 Mar 1953. e5: Jacobus Bresler in 1918 they were living in Woodstock. e6: Isabella BRESLER married NN Slabber in 1918 they were living in Worcester. e7: Jacoba BRESLER married NN Slabber in 1918 they were living in Parow. e8: Annie BRESLER in 1918 they were living in Worcester. e9: Pieter Gerbrand BRESLER born abt 1897 – died 12 Oct 1918 at his parent’s home at 43 Burns Rd, Salt River. Pieter occupation is shown as a Lite Checker(?) He never married. d6: Wilhelmina Susanna Jacoba BRESLER born 21 Dec 1858 christened 27 Feb 1859 Riversdale, Cape d7: Jacoba Elizabeth BRESLER born 4 Dec 1860 christened 27 Jan 1861 Riversdale,Cape – probably died before Apr 1862 d8: Jacoba Elizabeth BRESLER born 4 Apr 1862 christened 4 May 1862 Riversdale, Cape d8.5: Anna Maria Helena BRESLER born 4 Dec 1863 – died 1 Apr 1939. Married three times. Last married Nn BYRNE (Chris du TOIT grandparents – Chris only has this info on hearsay…might not be correct) d9: Anna Johanna BRESLER born 4 Nov 1864 christened 7 May 1865 Riversdale, Cape d10: Christina Magdalena BRESLER born 19 May 1868 christened 19 July 1868 Riversdale, Cape d11: Elizabeth Johanna BRESLER born 4 May 1871 christened 10 Sept 1871 Riversdale, Cape c3 and c5 were sons of :
b3: Casparus BRESLER (a1, b3) christened 26 Dec 1764, citizen (burgher) of Cape Town - Second married in NGK, Caledon on 2 Jan 1814 (another source has 9 Jan 1810) to Isabella Hermina de JAGER christened 12 April 1789 – died 1853. Isabella was the seventh child and daughter of Christiaan de JAGER and Jacoba Elizabeth du Preez from Stellenbosch.
Casparus was the son of the founding father: a1: Johannes BRESLER born abt 1732 from Kassel-Hesse, Germany (Prussia) arrived in the Cape 1752 and was in the service of Dutch East Indian Company as a carpenter. He started work on the new organ of the “Groote Kerk”, Cape Town. Then became a constable from 1758 to 1761, and later was in the service of the fire brigade. In 1761 he was registered as an explosive expert. Quote Dictionary of Familiers volumes 1-5: “Johannes was a German organ-maker from Hessen-Kassel who arrived in Cape Town in 1752 and, consecutively, was soldier, carpenter, constable and 'pyrotechnist extraordinary” He died 13 Oct 1773 in Cape Town. In letters found in the archives Johannes is refered to as “Extraordinary Lieutenant of Artillery” In 1768 the slave Catrijn Sangolanhij has an expiration of apprenticeship – Johannes was her registered master. Johannes applied to free one of the Company’s slaves, a little boy named Abel, the son of Catrijn Sangolanij of the Cape, about 6 years old. He wished to take the boy unto himself, and when baptized, give it an honest and Christian education. Offered f100, Indian valuation, for the child. Johannes married 13 Sept 1761 in Cape Town to Sara Dreyer christened 22 Aug 1723 in Cape Town. Sara was the daughter of Johannes Augustus Dreyer (also known as Isaac Daique) born 1668 Grube in Holstein, Germany and Sara van wyk (see notes at end). Sara turned to her youngest son Frans to assist her with financial matters after the death of Johannes. Sara gave Frans special power of attorney to act on her behalf. He assisted with the sale of her home in Boom Street, Cape Town in 1800. Johannes and Sara had issue: b1: Johannes Augustus BRESLER christened 8 Aug 1762 in Cape Town b2: Sara Christina BRESLER christened 27 Nov 1763 b3: Casparus BRESLER christened 26 Dec 1764, citizen (burgher) of Cape Town b4: Frans Reynhard BRESLER born 21 June 1766 in Cape Town
I don't have anything on a BRESLER/BURGER connection.....love to know more.
I'm very interested an anything you can add to what I have.
Thanks a million for contacting me...... are you related to the BRESLERs...... can you tell me more.
Oh! Green print.....unconfirmed info.....gut feel had me put there.
Regards Lynn
Boodskap 9a. LAASTE VAN MY KANT AF OOR RENSBURG SIDING Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:34 am (PST)
Sjoe, middag mense na kragonderbreking en 'n heerlike bui reën.
Dankie vir hierdie link André. Ek waardeer enige hulp wat ek moontlik kan kry. Ek het duidelikheid wat Rensburg Siding/Arundel was. Ek verstaan dit was 'n stasie. Die plase was daar in die omgewing. Ekself was nog noooit daar nie. Jare terug deur Colesberg gery oppad Humansdorp toe. Dis notas wat ek gemaak het tydens vertelling rondom die familie en waar hulle gebly het; ek het aanvaar dit was 'n plaas; m.a.w dit was 'n skoot in die donkerte. Ek weet nie wat die konnektasie met die dam is nie, as dit 'n belaglike storie is aanvaar ek dit! Ek het al die plase se name gesien op die webtuiste. Daarom het ek die vrae gevra van waar en hoe ver ens. Ek het ook gesê ek staak eers my navraag oor dit alles totdat ek meer deeglike inligting kan bekom. Dit is baie interessante geskiedenis. Dit is hier waar ek opgetel het sekeres is op Mosselbaai gebore en ek het familiename herken. Ouma Louisa is in Mosselbaai gebore.
So terloops indien jy/julle belangstel. In die eeufees Kerkboek van Brandfort, 1975, sien ek dat Senator Seeff van Rensburg op die kerkraad gedien het. Dis die ou moedergemeente waar ek gedoop is.
Dankie vir almal wat kommentaar gelewer het en die hele prentjie duidelik geskilder het.
Berna
Boodskap 9b. Seeff van Rensburg Posted by: "sastamouers" [email protected] sastamouers Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:15 am (PST)
Hallo Berna
As jy 'n scanner het, kan jy asseblief vir die foto aanstuur van Senator Seeff
Baie dankie Andre v R
Boodskap 10a. Spoortrollies Posted by: "Nardus Vodacom" [email protected] Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:01 am (PST)
Tydens die Anglo - Boere oorlog het Piet Potlood, `n dronkmanskind wie op Potchefstroom gebly het en `n baie groot spioenasierol gespeel het in die dorp, gehelp met die ontsnapping van `n aantal Boere - gevangenis uit die tronk. Piet het die hoek van die tronk met springstof opgeblaas en toe op `n gesteelde perd in die rigting van die Mooirivier gejaag om die Engelse se aandag af te lei, terwyl die ontsnapte gevangenis op so` `n trollie soos onder bespreking, op die spoorlyn langs beweeg tot waar hulle op veilige afstand van die Engelse was.
Piet was ook gemoeid met die plan om treine te ontspoor deur van afgesaagde Martini Henry gewere gebruik te maak.
Groete
Nardus
Boodskap 10b. Re: Spoortrollies Posted by: "barkerma barker" [email protected] Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:20 am (PST)
Nardus - dankie vir daardie interesante storie!!! vriendelike groete
Mark Barker MARK A BARKER P R E T O R I A
Boodskap 11a. Re: Rooigrond ens. Posted by: "Nardus Vodacom" [email protected] Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:01 am (PST)
Rooigrond is ook die plek waar Eugene Tereblanche aangehou was na sy inhegtenisname.
Nardus
Boodskap 12. Soeke na 'n Janse van Rensburg Posted by: "Dirk Bloem" [email protected] dirkbloem Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:47 am (PST)
Dagse almal
Help asb. Ek is opsoek na inligting oor die volgende persoon:
Jacobus Frederik Jansen van Rensburg gebore op 06/12/1936. Soverre my kennis strek is hy ongetroud gewees.
Dit is ongelukkig al wat ek oor hom het.
Enige inligting sal welkom wees. Kontak my asb aflyn by onderstande adres as u dit so sou verkies.
Baie Dankie
Dirk Bloem 083 644 6180 [email protected]
Boodskap 13a. Re: Pansegrouw x Du Plooy Posted by: "Jaleen de Beer" [email protected] jaleen46 Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:57 am (PST)
Simon,
Wat 2.1 betref
Gertruida Catharina Bothma PANSEGROUW * 7 Jan 1906 (Ma se van dan BOTHMA ?) x 19 Mar 1923 Burgersdorp NG Kerk met
Joseph Johannes DE BEER * 22 Mar 1895 Somerset Oos Bouwersfontein + 8 Jun 1954 Port Elizabeth Kirkwoodstr 21 MOOC 3476/54
Vriendelike groete,
Jaleen de Beer
Boodskap 13b. Re: Pansegrouw x Du Plooy Posted by: "Gustav & René Pansegrouw" [email protected] gustavre2003 Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:59 am (PST)
Beste Simon
Johan Jacob se vrou se van was BOTHMA.
d1 Johan Jacob * Dist. Cradock 8.8.1856 » Brakrivier, Cradock 2.11.1856, boer † “Caledonsfontein”, dist. Cradock 24.1.1886 (MOOC 6/9/229 308) x Burgersdorp 11.6.1879 Geertruyda Catharina BOTHMA * 7.11.1857 » Burgersdorp 20.12.1857 † Bethulie 14.10.1938 d.v. Daniël Johannes Erasmus Bothma en Francina Sophia Magdalena Fourie (sy xx Burgersdorp c. 1892 Bernardus Rudolf van der Walt * 7.4.1868 » Burgersdorp 17.5.1968, boer † na 1938) (VAB MHG 30355)
Sy kinders: e2 Jacobus Gustavus * 27.2.1885 » Burgersdorp 26.4.1885, boer v. Burgersdorp en eienaar van bakkery, later blokman v. Bethulie † 1952 x Rouxville 22.11.1904 Alida Barendina Hendrina DU PLOOY * Rouxville 19.10.1880 † Burgersdorp 21.5.1944 d.v. Jacobus Stephanus du Plooy en Alida Barendina Aletta van Heerden (MOOC 6/9/11004 92896) xx Landdroskantoor Bethulie 13.4.1946 Elizabeth Johanna Maria Grobbelaar * Fauresmith c. Jul. 1880 (81.2.-) (wed. v. Christiaan Lourens Klopper † 1949) † Florida 3.9.1961 d.v. Petrus Grobbelaar en Anna de Villiers (TAB MHG 7874/61) f1 Gertruida Catharina Bothma * 7.1.1906 » Rouxville 7.3.1906 † na 1954 x Burgersdorp 19.3.1923 Jozef Johannes DE BEER * 22.3.1895 » Bouwersfontein, Somerset-Oos 21.4.1895, by huwelik spoorwegamptenaar (kondukteur) v. Somerset-Oos † Port Elizabeth 8.6.1954 s.v. Jacobus Petrus de Beer en Catharina Maria Goosen (MOOC 6/9/22712 3476/54), 3 kinders f2 Johan Jacob (Tikmasjien) * 10.8.1907 » Rouxville 20.10.1907, stasiemeester, later boer † Phalaborwa 18.5.1987 # Phalaborwa (MHG S/K 6596/87) x Burgersdorp 6.7.1931 Levina Catharina SCHOEMAN * 14.01.1906 » Burgersdorp 25.03.1906 † voor 1987 d.v. Stefanus Johanus Schoeman en Elsje Charlotta Gertruida Myburgh f3 Alida Bernardina (of Barendina) Hendrina * 20.2.1911 » Burgersdorp 23.4.1911 † Nasionale Hospitaal Bloemfontein 2.10.1966 (MOG S/K 3030/66) x Johannesburg, Wilhelmus Hendrikus van zyl * Steynsburg 29.1.1905, boer van “Lienierie”, dist. Steynsburg (hy x Humansdorp, Magdalena Human Muller * Humansdorp Mrt. 1911 † Steynsburg 24.8.1954 (43.5.-) (MOG S/K 5556/54)) † Steynsburg 20.12.1963 (selfmoord), geen kinders (MOG S/K 73/64) f4 Johanna Maria * “Providence”, Bethulie 17.11.1912 † “Providence”, Bethulie 2.12.1912 (VAB sbs 4/1/3/1) f5 Jacobus Stephanus (Pik/Jack) * 7.3.1918 » Burgersdorp 5.5.1918, beroepsrugbyspeler, later verkoopsman † Durban 6.6.1990 (Msce S/K 4346/90) x Engeland 17.6.1950 Joan NN * Engeland 4.11.1915 † Engeland voor 1984, geen kinders f6 Jacobus Gustavus (Gustav) * 25.2.1929 » Burgersdorp 7.4.1929, stoorman, inspekteur † Despatch 25.2.2000 x GK Jeppe, Johannesburg 29.11.1952 Hester VENTER * Johannesburg 25.12.1930 of 1 † Benoni 17.9.2004 ¸ Johannesburg 11.1.1967 (sy xx Engelbrecht) xx Roodepoort 6.10.1967 Francina (Fransie) VAN DER WESTHUIZEN * Koffiefontein 27.7.1926, klerk by Eskom (sy x en ¸ Andries Petrus Nieuwoudt)
Hoop dit help.
Groete
René
Boodskap 14a. Re: Bossert SAG1 (vir Chris Bossert) Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] bosschris100 Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:41 am (PST)
Haai Louis, ek sal aanstuur sodra ek iets onvang
Chris
Boodskap 14b. Re: Bossert SAG1 (vir Chris Bossert) Posted by: "Louis Hurn" [email protected] ljhurn Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:26 am (PST)
Hallo Chris,
Baie dankie ek waardeer dit.
Groete Louis
Boodskap 15a. DEETLEFS Posted by: "Ockert Fourie" [email protected] oj.fourie Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:48 am (PST)
Is daar dalk iemand in die groep wat die DEETLEFS-familie navors? Ek is tans besig om te kyk of ek meer inligting oor my Ouma Hester Angenessa (Agnessa?) Gertruida FOURIE (DEETLEFS) geb. 23/02/1885 oorlede Kimberley 10/06/1961 na te spoor. Ek was onsuksesvol in my pogings om 'n SK vir haar te kry.
Ek is besig om te kyk na 'n moontlike verbintenis met b1c4d9 Cornelis *2.7.1849 x Alexandria 17.12.1877 Hester Agnessa Geertruyda DU PREEZ.
Ek het ook twee KAB opsoeke wat ek graag onder oe sou wou kry maar nie moontlik vir my hier in Kanada nie. Daar is nie dalk iemand wat so gaaf sal wees om tydens 'n besoek aan die Kaapse argiewe vir my hierdie bronne te trek nie? Ek gee die verwysings met die hoop dat daar dalk iemand is wat kan help:
MOK Volume 1/1/210 System 01 Reference 85 Deetlefs, Hester Agness Gertruida Deceased Estate Papers 1909
MOOC Volume 6/9/620 System 01 Reference 2218 Deetlefs, Hester Agness Gertruida Death Notice 1909
Groetnis uit 'n bitter koue minus 22 grade Toronto.
Ockert Fourie
FOURIE, MARAIS, DEETLEFS Navorsing Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3075
Datum: Tuesday, January 22, 2008
Daar is 17 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1. Re: Rut Gert de Vries vir Dawie Theron From: Abie du Plessis
2.1. Re: Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Pieter du Venage
3. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 21 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
4a. Re: VAN RENSBURG From: Faan Naude, Rietfontein, PRETORIA
4b. Re: VAN RENSBURG From: Annelie Els
4c. Re: VAN RENSBURG From: jacokuhn
5a. Re: Branding Registration/Diere se brandmerke (vir Elmien Wood) From: Janet Melville
5b. Re: Branding Registration/Diere se brandmerke (vir Elmien Wood) From: bonnie sydow
6a. Re: Viljoen x STRYDOM, sy xx vd WESTHUIZEN From: bonnie sydow
7. Re MOMBERG. From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
8. [Koerant] The Mercury Donderdag 17 Januarie 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
9. [Koerant] The Mercury Dinsdag 15 January 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
10. [Koerant] The Mercury Maandag 21 Janurie 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
11. (Koerant) Beeld 22 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
12a. 1936 Bybel JFR VAN ROOYEN From: Johann De Bruin
12b. Re: 1936 Bybel JFR VAN ROOYEN From: Karin Serfontein
13. Brooks familie op Memel From: kameeldrift Boodskap 1. Re: Rut Gert de Vries vir Dawie Theron Posted by: "Abie du Plessis" [email protected] abie_duplessis Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:54 am (PST)
DF du T Malherbe [3de uitgebreide uitgawe, 1966] p 234 gee die volgende aangaande Ruth Gerrit de Vries:
" skoolhoof, wetsagent, ar 1860, tr 10/1/1887 Frances Magrith WELDECK: 13 k. Hy dui as bron Who's Who 1908 aan.
Groete
Abie du Plessis Genealogiese en Sosiale Geskiedenisnavorser Durbanville-Heuwels Kaapstad Selfoon: 082-465-6170
Boodskap 2.1. Re: Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Pieter du Venage" [email protected] pieterprofile Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:55 am (PST)
Hallo Mari
Baie dankie weereens vir al jou moeite met die doopregisters. Ek versamel dit nou nog, maar sal een van die dae daardeur begin werk.
Beste Groete, Pieter du Venage Stel belang in Duvenage, Pienaar, Theron, de Beer, Labuschagne, Kruger e-pos [email protected]
Boodskap 3. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 21 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:06 pm (PST)
In Memoriam (2 berigte) MATTHEWS, Amanda née ZEELIE. Een jaar oorlede 21ste Januarie 2008. Man en kinders Andrew, Juan, Cindy, Chantal en Marius; suster Emmie asook Andrew, Craig en Dean. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 21/01/2008)
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 4a. Re: VAN RENSBURG Posted by: "Faan Naude, Rietfontein, PRETORIA" [email protected] Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:45 pm (PST)
Jaco
Kontak vir Emmerentia van Rensburg by [email protected]. Sy sal jou heel waarskynlik kan help. Sy is 'n professionele genealoog wat saam met Levi van Rensburg reusewerk aan die Van Rensburg-familie gedoen het. Nogtans is sy baie vrygewig met haar inligting. Sy sal jou net geld vra indien jy haar 'n navorsingsopdrag gee.
Beste wense.
Faan Naudé NAUDÉ-navorser Rietfontein, PRETORIA
4b. Re: VAN RENSBURG Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:09 pm (PST)
Hallo Rensburg-mense,
Ek het gister met Emmerentia by die Argief gepraat oor my eie RENSBURG-dame wat ek soek. Sy vra net so veel moontlik inligting. Haar databasis met RENSBURG is oor die 95 duisend. Daar is glo baie variasies van name.
Groetnis Annelie Pretoria.
Boodskap 4c. Re: VAN RENSBURG Posted by: "jacokuhn" [email protected] jacokuhn Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:38 pm (PST)
Dankie Faan, ek maak dadelik so.
Jaco
Boodskap 5a. Re: Branding Registration/Diere se brandmerke (vir Elmien Wood) Posted by: "Janet Melville" [email protected] jmelvillexsinetcoza Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:45 pm (PST)
Hulle steel die skape en sny eenvoudig die oor af om die tatoeering en halfmaan weg te steek. Daar is op die oomnblik n hofsaak aan in Edenburg waar n boer van sy skape erken het op die meent (300 van hulle) omdat hy op n sekere manier die sterte sny en toe hy hulle gaan vang kry hy n twee tand ooi met sy totoe merk op, die "eienaar" het toe erken hy het dit onwettig bekom. Hulle steel die skape gedurende lamb tyd wanner die boere die ooie wat lam skuif van die kamp waarin hulle is na 'n ander kamp en dinge bietjie deurmekaar is en hulle nie eintlik rekord kan hou van wie waar en wat is nie, dit doen hulle omdat die jakkalse die lammers vang. Die huidige eienaar het gese hy het hulle gekoop by n boer, maar die het gese hy het net ou ooie verkoop en nie enige tweetand ooie nie.
Desdae kan jy ook n mikro chip in jou waardevolle diere laat inplant
Janet Melville
Posbus 15215 Emerald Hill PE 6011 083 642 7744 H/Faks: 041 3792077 Researching: van der Merwe, Melville, Rudman, William Reynolds, Van Lingen and East Cape families
Boodskap 5b. Re: Branding Registration/Diere se brandmerke (vir Elmien Wood) Posted by: "bonnie sydow" [email protected] Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:59 pm (PST)
Hallo Vriende
Na aanleiding van Charlie se "Die merke is streng ge-eer; niemand sou durf jou merk gebruik en vir hom toe-eien nie"
My skoonpa Jan Plaat COETZEE het op Bovenplaat, Velddrif met onder andere n trop skape geboer.
Hy het gereeld gehoor dat van sy bure skape sonder ore geslag het!
Met vriendelike Groete
Bonnie
Boodskap 6a. Re: Viljoen x STRYDOM, sy xx vd WESTHUIZEN Posted by: "bonnie sydow" [email protected] Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:59 pm (PST)
Hallo Vriende
Beide Christo Viljoen & Dan Strydom het opgemerk dat ek die verkeerde troudatum gehad het vir die troue van Jacob Albert Nicolaas van der WESTHUIZEN x Hervormde Kerk Potchefstroom nr. 1346 met Susanna Geertruida STRYDOM, wed.Jan VILJOEN.
Dit moes 7.6.1869 gewees het - die ouderdom begin nou baie pla!
Christo het vir my die name van Johannes Hendrik VILJOEN * Potchefstroom 15.7.1867 van die 1ste huwelik gegee, terwyl Dan vir Susanna Gertruida STRYDOM * 7.10.1845 x Jacob Albert Nicolaas van der WESTHUIZEN, geidentifiseer het.
Nou moet ek net bevestiging kry dat sy wel met albei getrou het & ook wie was Jacob Albert Nicolaas van der WESTHUIZEN, sy ouers & kinders.
Groete
Bonnie
Boodskap 7. Re MOMBERG. Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:55 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
Momberg Richard Henry * 30/06/1946 ---27/12/2007 x met Susanna Johanna voorheen MARAIS ,voorheen SCHUTTE Gebore Steenkamp op 04/08/1925 . Uit die huwelik is gebore 2 kinders . dogtertjie sterf vroeg en seun sover kennis strek leef nog Jan Hendrik *27 Maart 1968 .
Richard xx Veronica *BOGNER uit huwelik is gebore Louise.
Seun is onbewus van vader se afsterwe omdat die familie geen adres vir hom het nie.
As iemand dus persoon ken ,kan hulle my kontak asseblief en ek kan aan familie aanstuur.
Rita Quebbemann
Boodskap 8. [Koerant] The Mercury Donderdag 17 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:55 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:- " The way I see it, if you want the rainbow you gotta put up with the rain." - Dolly PARTON.
GEBOORTES:- ELLIOTT Matthew & Carryn 'n dogter Erin Madison *? Suster vir Rachel.
TAYLOR Carmen & Graeme 'n dogter Hannah Emily * 13/01/2008 in Kaapstad.
WELSH Robert & Heidi 'n dogter Jessica *? in Parklands. Suster vir Dylan. Kleinkind vir Ivan, Denise en "Niece " vir Tarrin. Kleinkind vir Robert & Heidi.
VERLOWING:- Brendon & Judy HAWLEY se jonger dogter Jessamy aan Paul ,jonger seun van John & Jean SMIT.
DOOD:- BOLTON Malcolm 16/04/1936---- + 14/01/2008 x Eleanor. Pa van Gareth en Arohn Simpatie van Tammy. Memorial by St Michaels Anglikaanse Kerk Umhlanga op 18/01/2008 om 2.30nm. Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH 0312059959.
BOWLEY -MANNING Cecile 12/01/1938 -----12/01/2008 Ma van Debbie, Jarod en Kylan.
LAWRENCE Theresé Marion Elizabeth + 01/01/2008. Jongste dogter van + Vincent en Josephine LAWRENCE . Ma van Heather en suster van Fr. Claude, George, May, Christine, Sylvia, Rosalind, Francesca en Ralph.Begrafnis in London 18/01/2008 om 12 middag.
LEARY Diana Wingfield O'Kelly + 14/01/2008 x Victor. Ma van Gillian, Tessa en Patrick. Ouma van Louise, James, Zoë, Georgina, Alassandra, Thomas en Virginia. Oumagroot van Emma. Memorial by St Thomas Church Musgrave Rd op 26/01/2008 om 10 vm.
RYNNERS Ronnel x Keith. Begrafnis by DOVES Greyville 18/01/2008 om 1.30nm. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
MEMORIAM:- GINSBERG Leslie 22/09/1929 -----17/01/2007. Onthou deur vrou en kinders.
KESWELL Violet 23 jaar dood nou. Ma van Trevor,Teresa en familie.
MACLOU Florence .4 jaar dood nou. Ma van Pauline en Carlo. Liefde van Pitty, Wentzel ,Mary-Ann en familie.
NAGLE John Bede + 17/01/2006 Voorheen van Sydney Australia. Metgesel van Joan.
PHILLISKIRK Jeanne Francoise nee RYKSEN 18/06/1936 ------17/01/2004 x Don. Suster en tannie.
Gegroet uit Durban Rita Q.
Boodskap 9. [Koerant] The Mercury Dinsdag 15 January 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:55 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:- " In the 1960s, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people tak Prozac to make it normal ." ANON.
VERLOWING:- NEL Cobus & Colleen se dogter Kirsty-Ann aan Jean Guy MILNE ,seun van Terry & Antoinette NEL.
SUTHERLAND Andrew & Diane se oudste dogter Katharine aan Robert Bruce , seun van Hilda & + Dr Roy McINTOSCH.
DOOD:-BATTISON . Wendy en Belinda bedank vir gebede en ondersteuning.
BETHELDO Diane + 10/01/2008. Ma en ouma van Brett, Tam, Andy, Bonny en Glen; Ma van Lindsay en kinders.Ook van Elna en Shaun.
DE LANGE Allister 2 maande vandag 15/01/2008 ( sinneloos weg geneem) x Joan.Pa van Bronwyn, Jodi, Lynsey.
DE VILLIERS Roy Derek .Pa van Leon, Nova ,skoonseun Andrew Snr en oupa van Andrew Jnr, Gareth, Clyde, Tarryn en Candice. Begrafnis by DOVES Greyvile16/01/2008 om 12 middag . Daarna na Stellawood Begraafplaas. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
DICKERSON nee BLACKBURN Phyllis + 11/01/2008 x Frank . Ma van Glen, Bradley en families. Diens 17/01/2008 om 3nm. by Church of the Nazarene Morningside.
DRYSDALE Maureen . Begrafnis 18/01/2008 by Stellawood Kapel op 18/01/2008 om 12 middag. Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH 031 2059959.
EDWARDS Joseph Anthony + 10/01/2008. van Vrou en kinders David & Sally, Evelyn & Mark, Joanne & John en kleinkinders. Grafdiens by Stellawood Begraafplaas om 2nm Daarna Diens by The Methodiste Kerk Northdene om 3nm op 16/01/2008 .
GRAVE Douglas Frederick Hadley + 13/01/2008 . Van Chris, Cynthia, Tony, Susan, Mark, Carol, Mary, Brian , Hugh kleinkinders en agterkleinkinders.
HORNER Derek * 02/03/1937 -----12/01/2008 x Margaret vir 50 jaar.
KNOX Arthur Derek + 12/01/2008 . Begrafnis by Pineville Junction Pinetown 18/01/2008 om 11vm. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
MAYTHAN nee MARITZ Rose . Ma van Wendy, Pat, Sharon skoonma en ouma van Anthony en Terry. Suster van Jannie x Yvonne . Memorial op 16/01/2008 om 3nm by Montclair Methodiste Kerk.
MISSIO Paulo 12/06/1951 ---14/01/2008 x Mogie .Pa van Diego en Tashi. Begrafnis by Clare Estate Krematorium om 11-1300 uur.op 15/01/2008
MORNER Derek . Pa van Dezi, Ashleigh. Oupa van Kieren, Jody, Liam-James, Michael- Yolanda. Oupa van Robert; Trevor -Tracy en oupa van Anthony, Ainsly en Tammy. Memorial by Christ Church Pinetown om 3nm op 18/01/2008.
RAW nee HERISSON Flora + 12/01/2008 Gemis deur Mona en Irene en familie.
TOD A.D.B van Underberg Umfolozi Flats, en New Zealand vir 43 jaar + 12/01/2008 in Pokororo Suid Ierland. Simpatie aan Judy en kinders Alec, Majorie en Lynn en families. Van Derrick en Jenny HAMLYN en families.
VAN NIEKERK Johan Christiaan 29/08/1916 ----13/01/2008 . Pa van Martha & + Irvine KITCHING en Oupa van Garth en Debbie,Nicholas en Wendy KITCHING .Ouagroot van Lisa, Sarah en Nathalie KITCHING . Dankie Daddy liefde aan Mammie, van Tersia en Irvine.Ook Pa van Juliet en familie. Van kleindogter Leigh en familie. Diens by Tuinsig Kapel Durban op 16/01/2008 om 10 vm. Tee na diens.
WADE Ester May 26/05/1908 ----09/01/2008 Tannie, groot en agtergroot tante . van Michael, Roddy ,Bruce HULETT en families. Suster van Bernard, Herbert, Billy, Wade en Betty HULETT. Memorial by DOVES Greyville op 16/01/2008 om 10 vm. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
MEMORIAM.:- FENNEL David 17/01/938 - 14/01/2006 .Man ,Pa en oupa van Val, Gareth, Jenifer en Taitum.
FOURIE Jared 06/12/1968 ----15/01/1994 Van ouers en broer.
Gegroet uit Durban Rita Q.
Boodskap 10. [Koerant] The Mercury Maandag 21 Janurie 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:55 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:- " And God said 'Let there be light', but the electricity board said it would have to wait until Thursday to be connected. " Spike MILLIGAN.
GEBOORTES :- ALISON - STEWART Craig & Vicky 'n seun Angus Kenneth * 17/01/2008 .Kleinkind vir Tony & Carol en Ian en Barbara.
VENTER - MAHER Wendy & Pierre 'n dogter Edyn Ann * 16/01/2008 in Westville Hospitaal.
DOOD :- BLUME Dieter + 18/01/2008 x Kit .Pa van Jessica en Timothy . Ingesit deur SHANLEY'S.
BOOYSE Nic. Diens by Frere Rd Presbyterian Kerk 24/01/2008 om 2.30 nm.
COUNIHAN Pearl Harriet + 16/01/2008. Sal gemis word deur Judy, Anthony, Joan en familie. Memorial by DOVES Greyville 22 /01/2008 om 11.30vm.Ingesit deur DOVES 086002550.
DALY Michael John Chatterton + 17/01/2008 x Marlene .Pa van Alexandra ,Denis , Brendan en Victoria en oupa. Begrafnis by St Georges Garrison Church op 24/01/2008 om 10vm Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH PMB .0333426116.
DUNCAN Errol Andrew + 15/01/2008 van Hilton .Metgesel van Annie Francis . Pa van Andrew & Claire ,broer van Diana en Angus. Begrafnis by The Church of The Ascention Hilton op 23/01/2008 om 2.30nm. Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH 0312059959.
HIBBERT Gordon * 1946 in PMB ----+ 18/01/2008 .Sterf aan kanker.x Janette. Pa van seun en dogter.
JEFFERY RAY (Apteker) + 25/11/2007. Broer van Henry & Sheila. Memorial by Ethelbert Village Community Hall Malvern 22/01/2008 om 3nm. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
MEMORIAM:- CLAYTON Michael Ivan + 21/01/2002 x Rose.
LACON-ALLIN Cheryl 11/03/1969 ----20/01/2003. Dogter van Jacuqi & Neville BARKER .
NICOSIA Alessandro 05/06/1923 -----21/01/2007 x Lally vir 60 jaar.
PEDLAR Maria + 21/01/2007 .x Kenneth. Ma van Maria en ma van Quentin .Ook ma van Chris en Peter. Ouma van Shaun, Darryn, Jason, Storm en Liam.
REID Rozanne + 21/01/2007 .Ma van Sharon.
VAN NIEKERK Tamlyn 1970---1989. Onthou deur Ma en Joedi.
DANKIE:- GRIMSTER Frederick Charles 12/09/1920 ----01/01/2008 .Pa van Jenny ROGERS, Cilla MAUD, Lindy BOSHOFF & Susan LOWE .bedank almal vir ondersteuning met afsterwe van hul vader.
Gegroet uit Durban Rita.Q
Boodskap 11. (Koerant) Beeld 22 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:01 pm (PST)
AUSTIN; Henry. Christoffel AUSTIN kontak dringend Springs Kinderhof by 011-811-2180 oor aanneming van Henry. (Beeld - 22/01/2008)
BEYTELL; Chireez. {Mnr} VAN HEERDEN kontak S PRETORIUS by 012-344-4432 oor aanneming van Chireez. (Beeld - 18, 21, 22/01/2008)
JORDAAN; Elizabeth Maria Susanna (Bettie), in lewe van Moreletapark, Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: NG Kerk, Rubensteinweg 589, Pretoria, 25/01/2008, 11:00 # Pretoria-Oos Begraafplaas. (Beeld - 22/01/2008) Grobbelaars & Church Street Begrafnisdienste, Riviera, Pretoria, 012-329-3682.
VAN WYK; Magdalena Chatharina, in lewe van die Plaas Vliegenkraal, Schweizer Reneke distrik, Noordwes provinsie. Begrafnisdiens: AP Kerk, Schweizer Reneke, 23/01/2008, 11:00 # Schweizer Reneke Begraafplaas, Pretoria. (Beeld - 22/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Schweizer Reneke, 053-963-1052.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 12a. 1936 Bybel JFR VAN ROOYEN Posted by: "Johann De Bruin" [email protected] cjohanndebruin Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:43 pm (PST)
Hallo Vriende
Ek het 'n Bybel gekry by 'n man wat 'n boks "goeters" 'n paar jaar terug op Tweeling (Vrystaat) op 'n veiling gekoop het. Dis 'n 1936 Afrikaanse Bybel met 'n leeroortreksel en voorin staan Jan Frederik Rijkers VAN ROOYEN gebore 13 Augustus 1928. Weet iemand dalk iets van hierdie JFR VAN ROOYEN?
Groete Johann de Bruin Heilbron
Boodskap 12b. Re: 1936 Bybel JFR VAN ROOYEN Posted by: "Karin Serfontein" [email protected] Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:13 pm (PST)
Hallo Johann,
Indien jy enige boks "goeters" raakloop daar in Heilbron wat aan Swart en/of Smith behoort laat weet my asb. Ek vermoed dat daar tog so 'n moontlikheid bestaan. My ouma en haar familie was in die konsentrasiekamp op Heilbron. Sjoe, dit sal wonderlik wees! Ek hoop steeds om inligting of enige iets wat aan my oupa behoort het te vind.
Hy was Frederick Ernest Smith x met Margrietha, Maria, Magdalena Swart.
Dankie vir jou hulp in die verlede.
Hoop jou dag is mooi,
Groete,
Karin.
Boodskap 13. Brooks familie op Memel Posted by: "kameeldrift" [email protected] kameeldrift Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:42 pm (PST)
Goeie môre almal
Verlede Donderdag op Radio Pretoria het `n Gert Marais van Memel gesê dat hulle verlede jaar `n Brooks familie saamtrek gehad. 034 318 5559
Groete Jannie Gous Pretoria 083 679 2939 Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3076
Datum: Wednesday, January 23, 2008
Daar is 22 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Gereformeerde Kerk Argief From: Dirk Bloem
2a. Seeff van Rensburg From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
3a. Re: VAN RENSBURG From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
3b. Re: VAN RENSBURG From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
4a. Re: Branding Registration/Diere se brandmerke (virDirk / Elmien ens) From: ElanaK
5. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 22 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
6a. Re: Re MOMBERG. From: Annes Momberg
7. SWANEPOEL x JANSE VAN RENSBURG Graf From: Jaleen de Beer
8. Johanna Martina Otto From: Japie Bosch
9a. naairs From: paul.prinsloo
9b. Re: naairs From: Daniel Jacobs
9c. Re: naairs From: paul.prinsloo
9d. NAAIRS - MHG soek From: Annelie Els
9e. Re: NAAIRS - MHG soek From: paul.prinsloo
10. Ou Grietjie From: [email protected]
11. Genealogie- & Erfenisfees 10 Mei 2008 te Voortrekkermonument, Pretor From: Isabel Groesbeek
12. [Koerant] The Mercury Dinsdag 22 Januarie 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
13a. Janka Reinette STRAUSS From: Jaco Strauss (strauss.za.com)
13b. Re: Janka Reinette STRAUSS From: Fanie Blignaut
13c. Re: Janka Reinette STRAUSS From: Annelie Els
14. (Koerant) Beeld 23 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
15. * Janka Reinette STRAUSS From: [email protected] Boodskap 1a. Gereformeerde Kerk Argief Posted by: "Dirk Bloem" [email protected] dirkbloem Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:29 am (PST)
Dagse aan almal
Hieronder die reellings ten opsigte van sie SAGK se argiewe.
Groetnis
Dirk Bloem 083 644 6180 Potchefstroom
Reëling ten opsigte van die argief.
Met die aftrede van mev Joke Botha het die situasie ontstaan dat die argief sekere tye onbeman is. Die amptelike plaasvervanger van die argivaris is mev Carmie Huisman totdat daar 'n voltydse persoon aangestel is om die taak van die argivaris oor te neem. Neem a.s.b kennis van die volgende:
* Die argief sal slegs per afspraak oop wees vir navorsing.
* Alle navrae kan gerig word aan Carmie Huisman. Telefoonnr. by die Administratiewe Buro is 018 297 3986 en selnommer is 082 335 5397. Die e-pos by die Administratiewe Buro is [email protected].
Hoop die nuwe reëling sal in orde wees.
Vriendelike groete Carmie Huisman
Boodskap 2a. Seeff van Rensburg Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:06 am (PST)
Hi André
Het die 2 bladsye rondom bogenoemde gescan en van lys af vir jou gestuur. Ongelukkig geen foto daarby van die senator nie.
Groete Berna
Boodskap 3a. Re: VAN RENSBURG Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:09 am (PST)
Hi Willeen
Ek sal so bietjie my oog daar gaan gooi op Google Earth, dit klink interessant.
Dankie.
Berna
Boodskap 3b. Re: VAN RENSBURG Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:11 am (PST)
Hallo Faan en Annelie
Ek gaan beslis ook hier 'n bietjie kers opsteek oor my ouma-grootjie. Dalk kom ek by een van die twee geholpe. Dankie vir hierdie kontakte.
Groetnis Berna
Boodskap 4a. Re: Branding Registration/Diere se brandmerke (virDirk / Elmien ens) Posted by: "ElanaK" [email protected] elanakitching Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:41 am (PST)
Hallo mense,
Wat presies wil julle weet. Ek werk daagliks met die brand en tattoeering van vee by Dept Landbou. Is ook met 'n veediefstal forensiese beampte getroud. As ek kan help waarna julle soek - laat weet.
Groete
Elana
Boodskap 5. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 22 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:12 am (PST)
In Memoriam DERBYSHIRE, Larené. Ons kleindogter vandag 21 jaar oud; +17 Junie 1990. Renier en Drieka STRYDOM en gesin. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 22/01/2008)
Sterfgevalle BÜHLMANN, Dina Maria Cornelia, née BESTER. +Saterdag 19 Jan 2008. Eggenoot, kinders, kleinkinders. Verassingsdiens Dinsdag 22 Jan 2008 15:00 Victoriapark- krematoriumkapel. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 22/01/2008) Jan Ackerman Algoa Begrafnisdienste 041 484 5748
KNOETZE, Koos. *24/01/1932. +19 Januarie 2008. Vrou, kinders, kleinkinders. Diens Dinsdag 22 Jan 2008 14:00 NG Kerk Oos, Uitenhage. Jubilee-begraafplaas. (Die Burger Oos- Kaap 22/01/2008) Esmé Groenewald AVBOB Uitenhage 041 922 8066
OELOFSE, Elizabeth Gray (Betty). +Vrydag 18 Jan 2008. Kinders, kleinkinders, agterkleinkinders. Roudiens Woensdag 23 Jan 2008 14:00 NG Kerk Algoapark. Verassing privaat. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 22/01/2008) Alfred Jones AVBOB Port Elizabeth 041 484 2731
OLIVIER, Maria Adriana Petronella (Maureen). +Saterdag 19 Jan 2008 op Uitenhage. Roudiens Woensdag 23 Jan 2008 15:00 NG Kerk, Retief Gemeente, Despatch. Van: Albertyn (Seun). (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 22/01/2008) Esmé Groenewald AVBOB Uitenhage 041 922 8066
ROBINSON, Rosie. +Vrydag 18 Jan 2008. Man James, kinders, kleinkinders. Diens Woensdag 23 Jan 2008 15:00 Avbob-kapel, Noordeinde. Verassing privaat. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 22/01/2008) Alfred Jones AVBOB Port Elizabeth 041 484 2731
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 6a. Re: Re MOMBERG. Posted by: "Annes Momberg" [email protected] annes.momberg Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:33 am (PST)
Fantasties!
Rita ek is so bly jy het dieselfde inligting as ek. Ek het net Susanna Johanna se Sterfte Kennis gehad en was nie 100% seker oor haar geboortedatum nie. Ek was bietjie onseker, veral omdat sy (volgens haar SK) 21 jaar ouer as Richard was. Dankie nou is ek rustig.
Nee, ek het nie kontak met die seun nie, jammer. Wanneer is Veronica gebore, en waar?
Groete
Jacob Johannes (Annes) MOMBERG Posbus 1189 Thabazimbi 0380
Tel 014-772 2349 sel 082-464 4330 Faks: 086-510 8195/8
Annes MOMBERG/van VUUREN PUTTER/ van EEDEN Lize van der VYVER/BRUWER RICHTER/NN
Boodskap 7. SWANEPOEL x JANSE VAN RENSBURG Graf Posted by: "Jaleen de Beer" [email protected] jaleen46 Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:40 am (PST)
Wie ook al mag belangstel ek het 'n foto van 'n SWANEPOEL graf in Somerset Oos geneem en vir Alet Swanepoel aangestuur. Sy het laat weet dat die dame gebore is as JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Ek sal die foto aanstuur aan belangstellendes.
Inligting op grafsteen:
Aletta Johanna Susanna SWANEPOEL
* 23 April 1933 + 26 Apr 1985
Vriendelike groete,
Jaleen de Beer
Boodskap 8. Johanna Martina Otto Posted by: "Japie Bosch" [email protected] boschjapie Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:18 am (PST)
Goeie Naand lyslede
Kan iemand my dalk help met die ouers van Johanna Martina Otto (*3/2/1918, De Rust + 12/9/1999, Humansdorp.
Sy was getroud met Thomas Richard Ferreira (*21/12/1912, Mosselbaai + 23/12/19880, Herbertsdale). Asseblief.
Boodskap 9a. naairs Posted by: "paul.prinsloo" [email protected] paul.prinsloo Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:49 am (PST) hi almal is ek nou net dom of kan ek ewe skielik nie MHG rekords op naairs sien nie?? paul
Boodskap 9b. Re: naairs Posted by: "Daniel Jacobs" [email protected] Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:28 am (PST)
Beste Paul
Hier is my soektog op die soekwoord MHG op die TAB -databasis (jammer die MHG wou nie "cu and paste" - tioe het ek dit ingetik) en die resultaat volg daarna. Daarna volg een van die verwysings.
National Archives of South Africa (NASA) * * *Database:* * National Archives Repository (Public Records of former Transvaal Province and its predecessors as well as of magistrates and local authorities) * *Query Input * * *
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And Or Not Adjacent Near And Or Not Adjacent And Or Not Adjacent And Or Not Adjacent ------*Chronological Selection* (Optional) *CCYY* *Comparand* *Chronological Sequence* (Optional) *Beginning Date* >= =< =Not = > < AscendingDescending*Ending Date* =< >= =Not = > < * * Help
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*RESULTAAT*
*NAAIRS - Query Result* *Result Summary
Your query, *(MHG)* was located in * 464306 * documents and has been saved as query number * 2 *. Please select an action from those available above.
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*Document 890 of 464306*
*DEPOT* TAB *SOURCE* *MHG* *TYPE* LEER *VOLUME_NO* 0 *SYSTEM* 01 *REFERENCE* 3042/40 *PART* 1 *DESCRIPTION* VOLSCHENK, WESSEL JACOBUS. *STARTING* 19400000 *ENDING* 19400000
As jy verdere hulp benodig laat weet gerus. Ondervind jy net met MHG-verwysings 'n probleem?
Groete
Daniel Jacobs www.gendata.co.za
Boodskap 9c. Re: naairs Posted by: "paul.prinsloo" [email protected] paul.prinsloo Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:39 pm (PST) jammer.. ja ek was dom...ek was 100% seker daarvan dat ek iemand se MHG rekord voorheen gekry het, en laasnag toe ek daarna soek.. nutting!! ignoreer asb my blonde oomblik. dankie elk geval
Paul
Boodskap 9d. NAAIRS - MHG soek Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:14 pm (PST)
Hallo Paul,
Tik die 'van of naam-name' in die eerste - SEARCH WORD lyntjie. En dan 'MHG' in die twee lyntjie en jy sal net die SK`s kry, nie al die ander goeters nie.
Onthou net dat beide die TAB en VAB van die afkorting MHG gebruik maak.
Sterk Groetnis Annelie.
Boodskap 9e. Re: NAAIRS - MHG soek Posted by: "paul.prinsloo" [email protected] paul.prinsloo Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:04 am (PST) thanks.. gewoonlik kry ek maar wat ek soek een of ander tyd.. ek dnk net my geheue speel met my. lekker dag
Boodskap 10. Ou Grietjie Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] barbprior Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:03 am (PST)
Volgens die kurator by Smithfield Museum staan Ou Grietjie nou in daardie museum.
Boodskap 11. Genealogie- & Erfenisfees 10 Mei 2008 te Voortrekkermonument, Pretor Posted by: "Isabel Groesbeek" [email protected] Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:52 pm (PST)
Beste webmeester
Isabel (ek) is in Mei 2008 vir 20 jaar betrokke by genealogie in professionele hoedanigheid (eers as hoof by RGN Genealogie-Inligting en sedert 1998 met eie praktyk) en beplan/organiseer 'n Genealogie- & Erfenisfees op Sa 10 Mei 2008 van 9h00 - 13h00 te Voortrekkermonument.
Die doelstellings met die fees is: 1) Bekendstelling van genealogie en kultuurgoedere aan die wyer publiek met behulp van uitstallings deur genealogiese - & kultuurverenigings, privaat navorsers, museums, argiewe, 2) Geleentheid vir netwerk van belanghebbers, 3) Geleentheid vir bemarking vir uitstallers se spesifieke dienste en produkte.
Die dag sluit af met die samekoms by die GGSA: Noord-Transvaaltak se maandbyeenkoms om 13h30 - 16h00 aldaar met Lappe Laubscher as gasspreker.
Ek nooi alle belangstellendes hartlik uit om te kom feesvier saam met ons en te kom kuier rondom familiestambome en erfenis.
Meer inligting re geleentheid vir uitstallings en/of bywoning kan op aanvraag voorsien word.
Met dank en vriendelike groete ======Isabel Groesbeek (nee Bekker) Isabel Groesbeek Genealogiese Dienste/Genealogical Services Genealogiese navorser & - inligtingskonsultant sedert 1988 Aanbieder: Genealogie werkswinkels 'Van waar Gehasi' in Pretoria Vlg kursusdatums: 23 Feb & 24 Mei te RIF Ouditorium, Lynnwoodrif Organiseerder: Genealogie- & Erfenisfees, Voortrekkermonument Sa 10 Mei 2008
Posbus/P.O. Box 72667 LYNNWOODRIF/LYNNWOOD RIDGE Pretoria 0040 Tel : (012) 365 2057 Sel/Cell : 082 441 2325 e-posadres : [email protected]
Boodskap 12. [Koerant] The Mercury Dinsdag 22 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:27 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:-" They can because they think they can. " Virginia WOOLF.
GEBOORTES:- DOIG Jason & Priscilla 'n seun Connor * 14/01/2008 in Westville Hospitaal.
VERLOWING:- CARROL ~ HEAN Andrew aan Bronwyn Van Ma, Gangie, Nana, Lauren en Tracey.
DOOD:- BRICKNELL Martha Bertha. x William. Begrafnis Hillcrest Baptiste Kerk op 24/01/2008 om 3nm. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
COCHRANE Gilbert Ian Gillies 29/04/1929 ------19/01/2008. x Libby. Pa van Mandy(dec), en Simon. Oupa van Kate. Memorial by Margate Methodiste Kerk op 25/01/2008 om 11 vm.
DOUST Jennifer. Memorial by Grace Community Centre Newcastle Memel Rd op 23/01/2008 om 11 vm.
FLANAGAN Susanna Yvonne † 19/01/2008 x Arthur. Ma van Billy, Ronnie en Dennis . Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH 031 2059959.
FREGONA Denise Joan. 04/12/1943 ------21/01/2008. x Derek . Ma van Kerryn en Marc. Suster van Jeanette, Val, Barbara en families. Begrafnis by DOVES Greyville 24/01/2008 om 11vm. Ingesit deur DOVES. [skoondogter van Margaret FREGONA en skoonsus van Jenny ] {privaat inligting.}.
GIBBS Helen Mary † 19/01/2008. Ma,skoonma en ouma van Donovan, Kevin, Graeme en Joey, Austen en Jenny, Michelle en Wim, Ashely, Stacey, Darryl, Evan, Bligh, Matt en Diane en Antoinette. Memorial by St Margarets Church Bluff op 24/01/2008 om 2nm.
HUGHES Arthur Edwin † 19/01/2008. Gemis deur HUGHES, MASTERTON & CHAPMAN families.
JOHN Gregg † 20/01/2008. Nou saam met Roy.Ingesit deur Skoonma. Ook Bren, Debbie, Lindy, Gary, Al en kinders. Vriend van Rich. Gedagtes by Averil, Michelle, Lauren en Russell en families. Van Richard , Ronel, Tracy, Deidre, Ryan en familie.
KRUGER Christa . Simpatie aan Christa, Brenda, Anton ,klein en agterkleinkinders. Ingesit deur Rene en Selwyn.
MARTIN Jean Marie Andre (John). 21/07/1931 -----18/01/2008.Ex Merchant Navy, Durban Fire Dept., Parks en Gardens, Durban Corporation, Mauritius en Waterfall. Ingesit deur Rob, Michelle, Xavier en Nikita.
PICTON Fredrick Alice (Rika) 06/01/1922 ------19/01/2008 . Suster van Anthea ,Mitchell en Dorothy, Lynn RETHMAN en † Fred MAUD ,. Tannie van Sally, Diane, Geoffrey en Christopher. Geen begrafnis op versoek. Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH 031- 2059959.
SALMON Patrick Seun van Geoff & † Norma. Broer van John & Lesley. Lewensmaat van Jacqui. Pa van Ashleigh, Sarah en Emma. Ingesit deur Pa en Angela.
SANDERS Edith Florence † 18/01/2008 Liefde van Carol, Kevin, Sandy, Candice, Mark en Jacqui. Begrafnis by DOVES Greyville op 22/01/2008 om 10 vm. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
SMITH nee HAUPT Edna May.30/07/1910 -----19/01/2008.(98) x † Jonah. Ma van † Pamela, Mervyn en Dawn, Michael en Brenda, Ann en † Terry. Ouma, oumagroot en oorooumagroot . Begrafnis by St Agnes Anglikaanse Kerk Kloof. 23/01/2008 om 12 middag. Verassing privaat.
STEFFENS Ursula Vanessa † 19/01/2008 ." Life partner," van Jan BEKKER. Ma van Karen, Charlotte en Tracey. Ouma van Angelica, Daniella en Amy. Begrafnis by St Winifred's Methodiste Kerk Warner Beach op 24/01/2008 om 10 vm. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
MEMORIAM:- BONHOMME Damien . 1 jaar dood nou.Jy was 11jaar met ons. Seun van Lionel & Lynn. Boetie van Candice, en Keshia, Kaleb en Keenan asook kleinkind van Sydey en Sonia.
COUCHMAN Ada Ma van Beverley en Nicholas.
DIX~ Danny. Ingesit deur sy lewensmaat -geen naam. Vaarwel by Quiet Room by Highway Hospice op 24/01/2008 om 2.30 nm.
EDWARDS David .Onthou deur familie en kinders.
LAWTON Mike † 22/01/1996. Van Di en Brett.
MANNING Odette .Onthou deur Philip, Ma van Dee en Derrick; Wendy, Dane en Kerry,; Ouma en oumagroot van Cindy, Keith, Cassidy en Chloe.
MARNITZ Yolanda . Ma van Zhané , Tylia en Taharra. Ook van ouers, Clark, Rosslynn, Mark, Zally, Kirwin, Carmen en kinders.
Gegroet uit weereens warm en bedompige Durban .nogsteeds 26 grade is en dit is half elf in die aand. Rita Quebbemann
Boodskap 13a. Janka Reinette STRAUSS Posted by: "Jaco Strauss (strauss.za.com)" [email protected] jacostrauss Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:26 pm (PST)
Janka Reinette STRAUSS het die wêreld betree om 12:03 (SA Tyd) op Maandag 21 Januarie 2008. Moeder en dogter is beide wel en sterk goed aan. Sy het 3.2kg by geboorte geweeg en was 46cm lank. En o ja, sy lyk blybaar nes haar pa, so hierdie een is dus my "Kortpadgesiggie".
Jaco Strauss Somerset-Wes
Boodskap 13b. Re: Janka Reinette STRAUSS Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:36 pm (PST)
Beste Jaco,
Baie geluk en mag sy julle groot vreugde gee.
Groete, Fanie & Hikkie Blignaut, Vanderbijlpark
Boodskap 13c. Re: Janka Reinette STRAUSS Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:43 pm (PST)
Hallo Stauss gesin,
Baie geluk met die kleinding. Mag hierdie klein bondeltjie vir jul baie vreudge besorg.
Groetnis Annelie. Pretoria.
Boodskap 14. (Koerant) Beeld 23 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:32 pm (PST)
BOTHA; J A van Zyl (Kobus) oud-ouditeur van Yskor, voorheen van Lyttelton, Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: NG Kerk, Fauresmith, Vrystaat provinsie, 25/01/2008, 11:00 # Fauresmith Begraafplaas. Navrae: Fauresmith Kerkkantoor, 051-723-0111. (Foto met berig). (Beeld - 23/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Bloemfontein, Vrystaat provinsie, 051-447-1011.
COETZEE; Susanna Magrietha, in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: Geref Kerk, Annlin, Pretoria, 24/01/2008, 09:30 # Heatherdale Begraafplaas, Britsweg, Pretoria-Noord. (Beeld - 23/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
JORDAAN; Elizabeth Maria Susanna (Bettie), in lewe van Moreletapark, Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: NG Kerk, Rubensteinweg 589, Pretoria, 25/01/2008, 11:00 # Pretoria-Oos Begraafplaas. Navrae: Dalene GILL, 011-442-1821. (Beeld - 22, 23/01/2008) Grobbelaars & Church Street Begrafnisdienste, Riviera, Pretoria, 012-329-3682.
KRUGER; Francina Johanna, in lewe van die Tedderfield, Johannesburg. Begrafnisdiens: AVBOB Kapel, Milpark, h v Owl- en Froststraat, Milpark, Johannesburg, 25/01/2008, 15:00 # 14:00, Wespark Begraafplaas, Johannesburg. (Beeld - 23/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Milpark, 011-482-1027.
NIEUWOUDT; {Prof} Charles Francis (82), in lewe van Pretoria. Verassingsdiens: Willow Village Saal, 25/01/2008, 10:00. (Beeld - 23/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Oos, 012-460-3745.
PRINSLOO; Johanna, in lewe van Pretoria. Verassingsdiens: Palm Renaissance Aftree-Oord, Pretoria, 24/01/2008, 14:30. (Beeld - 23/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria, 012-327-3788.
SCHEEPERS; Jacobus Andries, in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: NH Kerk, Derdepoort, Pretoria, 23/01/2008, 13:00 # Heatherdale Begraafplaas, Britsweg, Pretoria-Noord. (Beeld - 23/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
SCHOEMAN; Heinrich Nicolaus (79) + 16/01/2008. Roudiens: NG Gemeente, Lynnwoodrif, Pretoria, 23/01/2008, 13:00. Hy laat na sy eggenote Heleen, seun, dogter en vyf kleinkinders. (Beeld - 23/01/2008)
VAN AARDT; {Dr} Braam (60) + 17/01/2008, in lewe van Pretoria. Herdenkingsdiens: NG Gemeente, Wonderpark, Akasie, Pretoria, 25/01/2008, 10:00. Sal onthou word deur sy eggenote Corrie, kinders en kleinkinders. (Beeld - 23/01/2008)
VAN DER MERWE; Frederik Christoffel, in lewe van Pretoria. Roudiens: NG Kerk, Flaurana, Pretoria, 22/01/2008, 14:00. Verassing. (Beeld - 23/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 15. * Janka Reinette STRAUSS Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] loogkolk Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:21 am (PST)
Onderstaande e-pos ontvang vanaf Jaco Strauss.
Jaco, saam met SAGenealogie baie, baie geluk aan jou en Leoni met die nuwe kleinding in jul lewens
Groete
Neef Hendrik LOUW
Janka Reinette STRAUSS het die wêreld betree om 12:03 (SA Tyd) op Maandag 21 Januarie 2008. Moeder en dogter is beide wel en sterk goed aan. Sy het 3.2kg by geboorte geweeg en was 46cm lank. En o ja, sy lyk blybaar nes haar pa, so hierdie een is dus my "Kortpadgesiggie".
Jaco Strauss Somerset-Wes Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3077
Datum: Thursday, January 24, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: NAAIRS - MHG soek From: [email protected]
1b. Re: NAAIRS - MHG soek From: paul.prinsloo
1c. Re: NAAIRS - MHG soek PAUL From: kerrieborrie
1d. Re: NAAIRS - MHG soek PAUL From: paul.prinsloo
2. Maartens getroud met Nieuwoudt From: Johan Pottas
3. Stroebel moordaanklag 1852 From: Johan Pottas
4. Pretoria rekord opsoek asb From: paul.prinsloo
5. Potch Begraafplaas Opsoeke Terugvoer:Petrus Fourie/Jan van Rooy/Wand From: Adélle Jerling
6a. Seef van Rensburg From: sastamouers
6b. Re: Seef van Rensburg From: Jorge Estreux
7. Le ROUX kenners asb... From: [email protected]
8a. Skeepslys of rede vir vertrek na Malacca? Hulp benodig From: aneendewitt
8b. Re: Skeepslys of rede vir vertrek na Malacca? Hulp benodig From: Jorge Estreux
8c. Re: Skeepslys of rede vir vertrek na Malacca? Hulp benodig From: aneendewitt
8d. Re: Skeepslys of rede vir vertrek na Malacca? Hulp benodig From: Jorge Estreux
9. DEETLEFS - Dankie Moira From: Ockert Fourie
10. Buck From: Louis Hurn
11a. Die ou SWA Polisie, en fotos daarvan asseblief From: [email protected]
11b. Re: Die ou SWA Polisie, en fotos daarvan asseblief From: Daniel Jacobs
12. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 23 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
13. [Koerant] Bylae Die Burger Oos-Kaap 23 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
14a. Re: 'n VRAAG OM TE VRA From: Dennis Laptop
14b. 'n VRAAG OM TE VRA en die agrief From: Annelie Els
15a. Re: SAG errata From: Wynand Bezuidenhout
16. Re: Eloff, nasate van Paul Kruger From: [email protected] Boodskap 1a. Re: NAAIRS - MHG soek Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] newabbott Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:35 am (PST)
Hallo Paul,
My raaiskoot sou wees dat jy per ongeluk die verkeerde databasis gekies het RSA wys alles, maar as jy bv fotos kies, dan gaan jy net fotos sien (Dit het 'n ander naam op NAIIRS!)
Groete, Henry
Boodskap 1b. Re: NAAIRS - MHG soek Posted by: "paul.prinsloo" [email protected] paul.prinsloo Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:36 am (PST)
hallo
is dit moontlik dat iemand wat al 15-20 jaar gelede oorlede is, nie 'n mhg rekord kan he nie? hoe op datum is die rekords op naairs? verstaan ek nie mhg rekords reg nie? help asb paul
Boodskap 1c. Re: NAAIRS - MHG soek PAUL Posted by: "kerrieborrie" [email protected] kerrieborrie Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:00 am (PST)
hallo GOEIEMIDDAG PAUL
> is dit moontlik dat iemand wat al 15-20 jaar gelede oorlede is, nie 'n mhg rekord kan he nie? Ja tot en met 1980 is van die dokumente in die sisteem maar as die persoon nie veel nagelaat het dan is daar geen dokumente vir hom/haar nie.
> hoe op datum is die rekords op naairs? WEET NIE SEKER DAAGLIKS. > verstaan ek nie mhg rekords reg nie? WAT BEDOEL JY DAARMEE? DIS ´N DOKUMENT WAT ´N FAMILIELID VOLLEDIG OF ONVOLLEDIG VOLTOOI WORD.( > > help asb > > paul
Boodskap 1d. Re: NAAIRS - MHG soek PAUL Posted by: "paul.prinsloo" [email protected] paul.prinsloo Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:53 am (PST) dankie.. eintlik verduidelik die eerste antwoord sommer alles. Wat ek bedoel het met my laaste vraag is ek was onder die verkeerde indruk dat alle stergevalle hier opgesoek kan word. Noe weet ek beter. dankie weereens Paul
Boodskap 2. Maartens getroud met Nieuwoudt Posted by: "Johan Pottas" [email protected] pottasjj Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:02 am (PST)
Dag almal
Kan iemand my help met die onderstaande gesin? Ek sal graag meer wil weet van die betrokke gesin, blykbaar is drie van die seuns/kleinseuns predikante en het 'n dogter blykbaar getrou in die bekende Murray familie.
Ek wil ook graag weet wie is Jacobus Maartens se ouers.
Groete
Family Group Record ======Husband: Jacobus MAARTENS ------Birth: abt 1818 Death: Burial: Marriage: ======Wife: Maria Margaretha NIEUWOUDT ------Birth: 12 Sep 1821 Graaff-Reinet, Oos-Kaap Chr: 4 Nov 1821 Graaff-Reinet, Oos-Kaap Death: Burial: Father: Johannes NIEUWOUDT (b 17 Apr 1764) Mother: Elsje Johanna JOUBERT (b 5 Dec 1797) ======Children ======1 F Elsje Johanna MAARTENS Birth: 18 Mar 1843 Death: 5 Apr 1909 Graaff-Reinet, Oos-Kaap Burial: Spouse: Abraham Francois VAN DEN BERG ======Prepared 23 Jan 2008 by: Johan Jacob Pottas Posbus 34559 Faunasig Bloemfontein 9325 051-5227329 / 0825693727 ======FAMILY NOTES Marriage(1):
HUSBAND NOTES: Jacobus MAARTENS Birth(2):
WIFE NOTES: Maria Margaretha NIEUWOUDT Birth(3): (KAB VC677) NGK, ten tye van haar geboorte is haar ouers woonagtig in die veldkornetskap, van veldkornet Adolf van Kalder?. Chr(4): (KAB VC677) NGK, as getuies teken Johannes Petrus Joubert, Maria Magdalena van den Berg, Hendrik Johannes Lubbe en Margritha Joubert.
CHILD NOTES: Elsje Johanna MAARTENS Birth: (KAB MOOC 6/9/617.931) Sy is in Graaff-Reinet gebore volgens haar sterfkennis. Death: (KAB MOOC 6/9/617.931) Sy sterf in die plaasopstal te Allendale. (KAB MOOC 13/1/1701.150) Haar likwidasie en distribusierekening word afgehandel op 7 Junie 1909 en die boedel se waarde beloop £3124. General: (KAB MOOC 6/9/617.931) Sy is die dogter van Jacobus Maartens en Maria Nieuwoudt.
SOURCES 1. South African Genealogies Vol 06: N. p357 a. 2. Ibid. p357 a. 3. Ibid. p357 a. 4. Ibid. p357 a.
Johan J Pottas Rekensentrum UV Tel: +27-51-401-2767 werk Tel: +27-51-522-7329 huis Tel: +27-82-569-3727 sel Faks: +27-51-401-2765 werk Posbus 34559, Faunasig, 9325
Boodskap 3. Stroebel moordaanklag 1852 Posted by: "Johan Pottas" [email protected] pottasjj Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:10 am (PST)
Dag almal
Kan iemand my dalk help om die dame te ID? Sy is aangekla van moord op haar kind in 1852, ek kon haar nog nie plaas en kon ook nog nie vasstel wat die hof se finale beslissing was nie.
Groete
CO 4064.88 Circuit Court for the District of George - February 1852 To His Excellency Sir Henry George Wakelyn Smith Governor and Commander in Chief of the Settlement of the Cape of Good Hope in South Africa
The Humble Memorial of the Undersigned respectfully Sheweth That Your Memorialists were present at the trial of Johanna Stroebel for the murder of her child That Your Memorialists, having heard the evidence, consider that the verdict of the Jury should have been Not Guilty.
That after the sentence of death was passed on her by the judge he observed that during the trial he had stated to the Clerk of the Peace that he was of the opinion that the Charge of the Capital Crime might be withdrawn against the Prisoner and be prosecuted for the crime of concealment of the birth of her Child.
Your Memorialists therefore pray that Your Excellency may be pleased to pardon the said Johanna Catharina Stroebel.
And Your Memorialists as in duty bound will ever pray
(132 signatures were attached to the petititon) CO 4066.90 To John Montague Cape Town My dear Sir I beg leave to enclose for the consideration of His Excellency the Governor a Memorial signed by 132 persons who attended the trial of the unfortunate prisoner Johasnna Stroebel, convicted of the crime of murder and sentenced to death, and as the 210 of 1127 29/09/2007 circumstances connected with her unfortunate case deserve the Sympathy of everyone, I am sure that you will use your influence with His Excellency.
Believe me, My Dear Sir, With the greatest respect, Your very sincere G.W. Rattray George Town, 13th February 1852
Johan J Pottas Rekensentrum UV Tel: +27-51-401-2767 werk Tel: +27-51-522-7329 huis Tel: +27-82-569-3727 sel Faks: +27-51-401-2765 werk Posbus 34559, Faunasig, 9325
Boodskap 4. Pretoria rekord opsoek asb Posted by: "paul.prinsloo" [email protected] paul.prinsloo Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:27 am (PST) hi almal is daar enige iemand wat so vreeslik gaaf kan wees om vir my die onderstaande inligting te kry een of ander tyd, groot asb.
DEPOT TAB SOURCE MHG TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 0 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 7291 PART 1 DESCRIPTION HOPE, ROBERT WINTER. STARTING 19040000 ENDING 19040000 REMARKS SURVIVING SPOUSE JESSE ANN HOPE.
DEPOT KAB SOURCE MOOC TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 6/9/16567 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 5647/49 PART 1 DESCRIPTION FROST, JESSE. ESTATE PAPERS. STARTING 19490000 ENDING 19490000 baie dankie Paul
Boodskap 5. Potch Begraafplaas Opsoeke Terugvoer:Petrus Fourie/Jan van Rooy/Wand Posted by: "Adélle Jerling" [email protected] senekalgen Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:13 am (PST)
Hallo aan almal, hoop julle het 'n wonderlike suksesvolle en vrugtevolle 2008 met baie nuwe ontdekkings in jul registers!
Net die volgende; Ek was siek vir 'n rukkie en het 'n operasie gehad, kon dus nie almal se opsoeke gaan doen nie. Maar ek het solank vir Jacques van der Grijp, Wanda Botes en Elmarie Weyers 'n paar antwoorde.
Jacques: Die registers van die begraafplaas begin eers in 1903. Ek sal verder moet gaan krap vir daardie Delport van jou. Is sy dalk nie op die plaas in 'n kerkhof begrawe nie?
Wanda: Ek heg vir jou 'n Excel-leêr met al die Jansen van Vuurens aan waarop ek my hande kon lê. Ek dink daar is nog 4 wat ek moet gaan neerskryf. Hierdie is al die opgawes in al die registers beskikbaar.
Elmarie: Ek sal sommer vir jou 'n paar Slabberts stuur later na jou epos toe.
Petrus Fourie van Postmasburg - het jy 'n spesifieke navraag?
Jan van Rooy: ek sal vir jou die sterfdatum gaan opsoek.
Fanie Buys: Soek jy al die Buys-grafte?
Erik Kriel: Ek sal moet verder krap, ek dink daardie Roselt datum is bietjie vroeg.
Louis Hurn: Ek sal ook joune aanspreek.
Seën vir almal! ADéLLE JERLING Sel: 072 920 0788
Familienavorsing in SENEKAL, JERLING, GREYLING, ELOFF, KLEINHANS, CRUYWAGEN, VAN DER LINDE
Boodskap 6a. Seef van Rensburg Posted by: "sastamouers" [email protected] sastamouers Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:14 am (PST) baie dankie Berna
In die boek word daar genoem dat Senator Seef van Rensburg 'n lid was van die Verenigde Party, ander bronne wat ek meld dat hy 'n lid was van die Nasionale Party was.
Het iemand dalk duidelikheid hieroor. Of het hy van die een perd afgespring en toe die ander perd gery? Dalk was dit dat die Nasionale Party eers later gestig was.
Andre v R
Boodskap 6b. Re: Seef van Rensburg Posted by: "Jorge Estreux" [email protected] jorgeestreux Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:36 am (PST)
Hallo Andre,
Ek het n Sen B.J. Van Rensburg wat in 1952 bedank het as Natalse Senator (NP) weens gesondheidsredes. In sy plek was toe Senator Johannes Jeremias BOSHOFF benoem.
Gert
Boodskap 7. Le ROUX kenners asb... Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] loogkolk Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:49 am (PST)
Ek is op soek na Alida Elizabeth LE ROUX * 26.10.1933 x Ockert Jacobus STRYDOM se LE ROUX lyn asb. Haar vader is beslis Petrus Arnoldus Bernardus LE ROUX, so die enigste inligting daaroor kry ek soos volg in die LE ROUX boek. Ek het dus geen bewyse dat sy eintlik d6e8f3g4h5 behoort te wees nie
Groete en byvoorbaat dankie
Hendrik LOUW 082 722 6500 Bron: LE ROUX boek
d6 Jan Hendrik LE ROUX * 12.09.1790 x Cradock 13.09.1818 Maria Christina Gertruida VILJOEN
e1 Jan Hendrik LE ROUX * 21.07.1819
e2 Christiaan Rudolph LE ROUX * 04.07.1821
e3 Judith Johanna LE ROUX * 12.06.1823
e4 Christoffel Philippus Petrus LE ROUX * 13.04.1825
e5 Maria Christina Gcrtruida LE ROUX * 13.04.1825
e6 Casparus Hendrik LE ROUX * 04.05.1830
e7 Aletta Elizabeth Jacoba LE ROUX * 02.01.1833
e8 Pieter Johannes Stephanus LE ROUX * 10.10.1834 = Colesberg 09.12.1834 {Cornelis Visser toe Veldkornet. Aangeneem Colesberg 1855. Ouers woon Bo-Zeekoeirivier} x Colesberg 05.03.1855 Maria Petronella Susanna PRETORIUS. By troue was beide minderjarig fl Jan Hendrik Johannes Jacobus LE ROUX * 1857 f2 Gerrit Jacobus LE ROUX * 29.09.1859 f3 Pieter Johannes Andries Stephanus LE ROUX * 1862 x Maria Margaretha DU TOIT xx Elsje Sophia VAN ZYL g1 Maria Petronella Susanna LE ROUX * 26.08.1890 = Vryheid 11.01.1891 g2 Pieter Johannes Andries Stephanus LE ROUX * 02.11.1896 = Klerksdorp 26.04.1896 f3 xx g3 Jacoba Gertruida LE ROUX * 26.02.1899 = Utrecht 02.04.1899 g4 Petrus Arnoldus Bernardus LE ROUX * 09.08.1903 = Krugersdorp 12.10.1903 x Jacoba Johanna Maria ROSSOUW xx AE DU TOIT {moontlik Alida Elizabeth} h1 Lena Levina LE ROUX * 14.09.1923 = Uitenhage 22.11.1923 h2 Jacoba Gertruida LE ROUX * 10.10.1924 = Krokodilrivier (T) 31.01.1925 h3 Christiaan Comelis LE ROUX * 01.06.1927 = Rustenburg 16.02.1930 g4 xx h4 Petrus Johannes Andries Stephanus LE ROUX * 07.10.1930 = Krugersdorp 25.01.1931 h? Alida Elizabeth LE ROUX * 26.10.1933 x Ockert Jacobus STRYDOM h5 Petrus Steyn LE ROUX * 27.07.1935 = Pretoria-Noord 10.11.1935 h6 Sarel Francois Moller LE ROUX * 03.02.1936 = Krugersdorp 02.08.1936 x Maria Cornelia DU TOIT i1 Cornelia Gertruida LE ROUX * 04.02.1969 = Rensburg 05.10.1969 i2 Alida LE ROUX * 16.05.1970 = Rensburg 08.11.1970 g5 Henning Johannes LE ROUX * 20.07.1908 = Krugersdorp 01.11.1908 g6 Gideon LE ROUX * 01.02.1910 = Krugersdorp 12.06.1910 g7 Jan Hendrik Johannes Jacobus LE ROUX * 26.05.1911 x Anna Maria Magdalena NAGEL h1 Pieter Johannes Andries Stephanus LE ROUX * 14.02.1936 = Krugersdorp 03.05.1936 f4 Jan Walter LE ROUX * 1865 f5 Francois Petrus Rudolph LE ROUX * 1870 f6 Christiaan Cornelis LE ROUX * 29.10.1874 f7 Maria Petronella Susanna LE ROUX * 31.10.1877 f8 Philippus Jacobus LE ROUX e9 Susanna Catharina Johanna LE ROUX * 04.04.1835
Boodskap 8a. Skeepslys of rede vir vertrek na Malacca? Hulp benodig Posted by: "aneendewitt" [email protected] aneendewitt Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:25 am (PST)
Hello almal!
Ek kry gister 'n e-pos van Dennis de Witt uit Maleisië. Hy wou by my weet hoekom iemand Suid-Afrika sou verlaat het om in Malakka/ Melaka, Maleisië, te gaan woon. Petrus Johannes de WITT het op die ouderdom van 20 in Maleisië aangekom - op 16 Mei 1816. Hy het met Goewerneur KOEK se dogter daar getrou.
Al inligting wat ek kan opspoor is dat Napoleon se oorwinnings in die vroeë 1800's 'n invloed gehad het en dat die Nederlanders weer beheer gekry het van Malakka teen 1814 of 1824. Kon dit dalk wees dat die man agter die "nuwe Nederlandse beskawing" aangetrek het? Weet iemand dalk 'n bietjie meer van hierdie tydperk aan die Kaap?
Groete, Aneen Kroese [de Witt, de Villiers, Le Roux, Uys, Lambrechts, Rust, Kroese...]
Boodskap 8b. Re: Skeepslys of rede vir vertrek na Malacca? Hulp benodig Posted by: "Jorge Estreux" [email protected] jorgeestreux Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:01 am (PST)
Hallo Aneen,
Toevallig? In die Precis of the Archives of the Cape Of Good Hope vind ek die volgende:
1729 - 1732 De Wit (Jan). Burgher Councillor. Asks for passage for his son Petrus Johannes (No. 39)
Gert
Boodskap 8c. Re: Skeepslys of rede vir vertrek na Malacca? Hulp benodig Posted by: "aneendewitt" [email protected] aneendewitt Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:58 am (PST)
Hello Gert
Baie dankie...Ek vermoed jy het hier vir my 'n skakel na Dennis de Witt se Suid- Afrikaanse stamvader gegee! Hy behoort die inligting te kan gebruik.
Ek vermoed die klokkies lui 'n "tune"...sal net gou kyk of ek die bladmusiek kan lees ;o)
Groetnis, Aneen
Boodskap 8d. Re: Skeepslys of rede vir vertrek na Malacca? Hulp benodig Posted by: "Jorge Estreux" [email protected] jorgeestreux Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:17 am (PST)
Aneen
O ja, Petrus Johannes DE WIT arriveer (weer?) in 1736 as soldaat op die "Noordwaddinxveen"en vra vir Burgher papers in 1741 (No. 50)
Gert
Boodskap 9. DEETLEFS - Dankie Moira Posted by: "Ockert Fourie" [email protected] oj.fourie Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:33 am (PST)
Ek wil net herkenning gee aan Moira, wat sonder huiwering op my versoek om hulp vir my die SK by die Kaapse argief nageslaan het. Baie dankie vir die waardevolle inligting wat 'n 4 jaar se soeke na inligting oor my Ouma beeindig het. Dit was met groot opwinding dat ek uiteindelik die koppeling kon maak aan die Deetlefs stamvader.
Weereens baie dankie Moira, en sterkte met jou eie navorsing.
Groetnis.
Ockert
Boodskap 10. Buck Posted by: "Louis Hurn" [email protected] ljhurn Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:11 am (PST)
Hallo almal,
Ek sit hier met 'n ene Cyril Charles Louis Buck * 1880 cira Sterf 26 11 1953. Al wat ek weet is dat hy getroud was met Mona Rosetta Simpson in Harrismith OVS, hy was die kurator van die Harrismith museum en vermoedelik ook op 'n tyd eienaar van die Grand National Hotel. Ek weet oos dat hy aan die Vry Messelaars behoort het.
Enige inligting oor sy ouers, sy vrou of haar familie sal waardeer word.
Groete,
Louis Hurn.
Boodskap 11a. Die ou SWA Polisie, en fotos daarvan asseblief Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:59 am (PST)
Ek vra, met groot asseblief, dat almal wat kan my hier sal help. Ek sit met 'n pragtige storie van 'n Greeff polisieman in die ou SWA polisie, en ek het geen fotos by die storie nie. Nou soek ek fotos, asseblief. Ek sal veral bly wees as iemand my kan help om iets op fotki of sulke plekke te kry. Heel eerstens soek ek fotos van Sersant Cornelius Johannes Greeff (Cor of Corrie) wat op 31 Januarie 1889 gebore is.
Nadat die Duitsers in SWA verslaan is, was die nuwe polisiemag eers bekend as die "Miltary Constabulary" en daarna as die Suidwes-Afrikaanse Polise (S.W.A.P.). In daardie jare (van 1916 af vorentoe) het daardie polisiemag dikwels met perde, kamele en tente hulle werk gedoen en patrollie gery.
Ek is baie hard op soek na fotos van: 1. Polisie amptenare van daardie tyd. 2. Kameelpatrollies 3. Polisie tent kampe 4. SWA Polisiestasies, tronke, vervoer, ens. 5. SWA uniforms (veral Sersant)
Ek soek ook ou fotos (circa 1900 - 1950) van: 1. Zendlingsdrift, Outjo, Kranzberg naby Usakos, Kamanjab, ongeveer 170 km verder. Ook Swartbooisdrif aan die Kunenerivier. 2. "Eloff, 'n nakomeling van President Kruger". Jammer, dit is al wat ek weet! 3. Vliegtuie (onder leiding van Sir Pierre van Ryneveld) wat in die 1922 Bondelswarts opstand gebruik is (by Warmbad) 4. Sir Pierre van Ryneveld 5. Aletta Johanna FOURIE, gebore 1897-05-20 (x Cornelius Johannes Greeff (Cor of Corrie) ) 6. Korthoring-bulle en Afrikanerbulle 7. Otto Brase, 'n inwoner van SWA 8. Die kerkhof op Okahandja 9. Grafstene in die kerkhof op Okahandja
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Boodskap 11b. Re: Die ou SWA Polisie, en fotos daarvan asseblief Posted by: "Daniel Jacobs" [email protected] Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:47 am (PST)
Beste Francois
Ek dink dit was Henri Schoeman - samesteller van die Schoeman Geslagsregister - wat 'n stuk werk oor die nasate van paul Kruger gedoen het. Henri is 'n paar jaar gelede oorlede. Daar is by die 1800 nasate in die publikasie. Ek het dit eendag by die navorsingsentrum by die Voortrekkermonument onder oë gehad. Een van die meer interessante nasate wat ek daar raakgelees het is 'n seuntjie wie se pa van Portugese afkoms is. Ek dink meer as een van Paul Kruger se dogters was met 'n Eloff getroud. As ek reg onthou het een van hulle hom aan die einde van die ABO na Nederland vergesel. Daar is natuurlik ook 'n Eloff-register gepubliseer. Daar is o.a. ook 'n bekende Eloff-beeldhouer wat 'n nasaat van Paul Kruger was.
Groete
Daniel www.gendata.co.za
Boodskap 12. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 23 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:32 am (PST)
Dankbetuigings OLIVIER, Patsy. Dankie vir simpatie en bystand. Eben Eduardt, Eugene, Therésa, Johannes, Nico en Eben. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 23/01/2008)
Sterfgevalle POTGIETER, Marie. +Maandag 21 Jan 2008. Eggenoot, kinders, kleinkinders, agterkleinkinders. Verassingsdiens Vrydag 25 Jan 2008 10:00 NG Kerk, Algoapark-gemeente (P.E.) (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 23/01/2008) Jan Ackerman Algoa Begrafnisdienste 041 484 5748
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 13. [Koerant] Bylae Die Burger Oos-Kaap 23 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:47 am (PST)
Berigte by troufotos in Bylae tot Die Burger Oos-Kaap 23 Januarie 2008
Morné en Theresa LANDMAN is op 30 Junie op Calitzdorp getroud. Hulle woon nou op Calitzdorp.
Wayne HAGGARD, oudste s.v. Zack en Felicity HAGGARD is op 15 Desember getroud met Tania SCHOLTZ jongste d.v. Miekie en Linda SCHOLTZ. Die egpaar woon in Port Elizabeth.
Monya STEENBERG en Michael DRECKMANN is op 17 November getroud. Die egpaar gaan hulle in Kanada vestig.
Riaan en Danishke PUTTER is op 8 Desember in die Kongregrasionalistiese Kerk in die Baai getroud. Die egpaar vestig hulle op Mosselbaai.
Andrew en Natasha SINCLAIR is op 20 Oktober by die Barkleystraat-teater op Uitenhage getroud. Hulle woon ook op Uitenhage.
Hannes en Swanél ROUX is op 8 Desember deur Swanél se pa in die huwelik bevestig.
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 14a. Re: 'n VRAAG OM TE VRA Posted by: "Dennis Laptop" [email protected] dennis_pretorius Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:54 am (PST)
Hallo Berna
Ek let op dat jy nie eintlik antwoorde gekry het op jou vraag en kommentaar nie - en die rede is eenvoudig ! As jy na die argiewe kyk sal jy sien dat hierdie saak reeds baie aandag gekry het.
Ek dink as jy eers na die argiewe gaan kyk sal jy baie meer ingelig wees oor die komplekse aard van die saak.
Kyk gerus na die argiewe dan hoor ek graag weer van jou
Groetnis
Dennis Pretorius, Krugersdorp, South Africa/Suid Afrika Executive Member of GSSA / Uitvoerende Lid van GGSA Genealogical Researcher/Genealogiese Navorser Owner of SAGenealogy E-mail list/Lyseienaar - SAGenealogie poslys E-Mail/E-pos: [email protected] Web address/Webadres: http://mzone.mweb.co.za/residents/k75/genealogy.html Telephone/Telefoon: +27-83-679-8541 Fax/Faks +27-86-609-8541
Boodskap 14b. 'n VRAAG OM TE VRA en die agrief Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:41 pm (PST)
Hallo Dennis en Berna,
Mag ek maar hier 'intjip' en net byvoeg dat Dennis van die SAGenlys se argiewe van al die epos-boodskappe praat. Vir die nuwe mense wat dalk nie weet nie. Daar is aan die begin van die boodskappe wat op die tuisblad wys `n 'SEARCH' blokkie.
Daar is niks minder as 278 kere wat die woord 'KOPIEREG' gebruik is. Met die word 'ERKENNING' het ek 416 gekry. So kans mens enige woord, naam, of van soek.
Groetnis Annelie. Pretoria.
Boodskap 15a. Re: SAG errata Posted by: "Wynand Bezuidenhout" [email protected] wynbez Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:18 pm (PST)
Hello Medegeners,
Is daar al begin werk aan die hersiening van die ou SAG volumes of is julle steeds besig met die vanne V tot Z? Ek sal graag gekontak wil word wanneer die Bezuidenhouts nagegaan word by GISA. Daar is baie foute in die oorspronklike volume 1 oor Bezuidenhouts wat ek sover moontlik probeer regstel. Wonder maar net.
Groete Wynand Bezuidenhout Johannesburg
Boodskap 16. Re: Eloff, nasate van Paul Kruger Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:25 pm (PST)
Ek is op soek na 'n foto van 'n spesifieke Eloff. Hy was 'n afstammeling van Paul Kruger, EN hy het tussen 1916 en 1950 erens in die woestyn in SWA verdwaal en amper van dors omgekom. Gelukkig vir hom het een van die Greeff familie sy bas gered.
Kan die Eloff kenners dalk help om hom te identifiseer? Francois Greeff Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3078
Datum: Thursday, January 24, 2008
Daar is 3 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1. (Koerant) Beeld 24 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
2. [Koerant] The Mercury 23 Januarie 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
3. MY VRAAG IS BEANTWOORD From: Berna Julietta van de Venter Boodskap 1. (Koerant) Beeld 24 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:40 pm (PST)
DU TOIT; Jan Gabriel du Plessis, in lewe van Pretoria. Verassingsdiens: EG Kerk, Pretoria-Tuine, 25/01/2008, 10:00. (Beeld - 24/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
DU TOIT; Niela * 06/01/1925 + 22/01/2008. Sal onthou word deur haar kinders Linda, David, Steve, Niel en Julien. Kontaknommer: 083-250-9827. (Beeld - 24/01/2008)
JORDAAN; Elizabeth Maria Susanna (Bettie), in lewe van Moreletapark, Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: NG Kerk, Rubensteinweg 589, Pretoria, 25/01/2008, 11:00 # Pretoria-Oos Begraafplaas. Navrae: Dalene GILL, 011-442-1821. (Beeld - 22, 23, 24/01/2008) Grobbelaars & Church Street Begrafnisdienste, Riviera, Pretoria, 012-329-3682.
KITLEY; Madeleine * BRAUN 30/08/1974 + 18/01/2008. Sal onthou word deur haar man Ian en die BRAUN gesin van Bruce en Caroline. (Beeld - 24/01/2008)
O'CONNELL; Catharina Magdalena Potgieter, in lewe van Boksburg, Gauteng provinsie. Begrafnisdiens: NG Moedergemeente, Lydenburg, Kantoorstraat, Mpumalanga provinsie, 26/01/2008, 11:00 # Lydenburg Begraafplaas. (Beeld - 24/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Boksburg, 011-917-5041.
SCRIBANTE; Albertus van Wyk (75), in lewe van die Theunissen, Vrystaat provinsie. Verassingsdiens: Sungardens Hospice Kapel, Pretoria, 25/01/2008, 14:00. (Beeld - 24/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Oos, 012-460-3745.
WOODLAND; Zane. Kontak Loftie by 011-763-1129 oor aanneming. (Beeld - 24/01/2008)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 2. [Koerant] The Mercury 23 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:44 pm (PST)
Naand vriende,
QUICKQUIP:- " Act quickly, think slowly. "- Germaine GREER.
THE BOTTOM LINE:- " Sow a thought, reap an action; sow an action, reap a habit; sow a habit, reap a character; sow a character ,reap a destiny. - " Chinese Proverb.
GEBOORTES:- WILLIAMS -ASHMAN David & Natalie 'n dogter Erin Ann * 22/01/2008 in Kaapstad.
VERJAARSDAG :- HALL nee KITCHENER Winnie 90 jaar. Ma , ouma en oumagroot.
VERLOWING:- CONNELL - VAN BALLEGOOYEN Kim & Damon.
POTGIETER Richard & Marie-Therese se oudste dogter Tracy-Anne aan Ian, jonger seun van Lorraine & † Doug CASTLEMAN.
SCOWBY ~ PAYN Graham & Yvonne se dogter Penny-Ray aan Steven, seun van John & Anne.
DOOD:- ARNOTT nee RICHMOND 20/05/1925 -----17/01/2008. Ma van Carol, Mary en Dawn, skoonma van Glynn, Neil en Eugene. Ouma en oumagroot. Verassing privaat. TEL:- 0315639059/ 0832938936.
BOOYSE Nicholaas Johannes 11/02/1925 -----14/01/2008. x Jean. Nic was in Pretoria begrawe. Was sy wens.
CARDINAL Cyril. Pa van Gail en Clive , skoonpa van Manie. Broer van Elaine. Oom van John, Daryl en Eddie. Vriend van L. JONES.
FRANKLIN Margaret . Ma, skoonma en ouma. Memorial by St Martins In The Veld Anglican Church Rosebank 26/01/2008 om 10vm.
GOEDEGEBUURE Cornelis Dinginus (Cas) † 21/01/2008. x † Joyce . Pa van Vanessa, Sharon en Yvonne, skoonpa van Kit en Manna en oupa . Begrafnis by St Cyprians Anglikaanse Kerk Umbilo op 24/01/2008 om 10.30 vm.Ingesit deur SHANLEY'S 0312057644.
HIBBERT Gordon Robert. x Janetta.Pa van Stuart en Michelle. Broer ,swaer en oom van Denise, Ken, Scott, Clyde en Ross.Begrafnis by Frere Rd Presbyterian Kerk Glenwood 26/01/2008 om 10 vm. Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH 0312059959.
HOUGHTON Roy † 21/01/2008 . Man,pa en oupa. Begrafnis by St Barnabas Church op 25/01/2008 om 1nm.
JOHNS Gregor Irving † 20/01/2008 x Averil vir 37 jaar. Pa en oupa van Michelle, Grant, Gayla en Guy; Lauren ,Mark, Nathan en Baby X.; Russ en Kirsten. Broer van Peter x Sandra en familie. Broer ook van Bren, Debbie, Lindy, Gary ,Al en kinders. Memorial 27/01/2008 OM 2.30 NM by St Augustines Church Escombe .
JOHNSON Ralph 22/05/1923 -----22/01/2008 x † Margaret van Athlone Park.. Pa, oupa en oupagroot van Audine, Michael, Mathew, Rudolph en Marieta. Memorial by The Athlone Park Methodiste Kerk op 25/01/2008 om 12 middag.
LIVERSAGE Marioth Deborah (Massey Jack) . Begrafnis by Wit Rivier Methodiste Kerk op 26/01/2008 om 12 middag.
MONTIERE nee EVERTON Joyce Sarah van Sydenham . Ma van Bronwynn en Russel ,ouma van Dane ,Daindre, Austin, Danielle en Chadleigh. Suster van Florence en Marlene. Begrafnis 25//01/2008 by St Annes Katolieke Kerk Sydenham 25/01/2008 om 2.30 nm. Verassing privaat. Ingesit deur ISIPINGO Inc PAM'S.
ODENDAL Avi . Verlies vir Visual Merchandising.
PETERSEN Dorothy van Sydenham x Pierre .Ma van Ciola, Carl, Tracey, en Troy. Ouma en oumagroot. Begrafnis 26/01/2008 by Open Door Assemblies Newlands East. om 10.30vm Daarna na Stellawood Begraafplaas. Ingesit deur ISIPINGO Inc PAM'S.
ROBERTS Mandy † 21/01/2008. Ma van Kimberley en Calem. Dogter van Peter & † Patricia .Suster van Carrie en Sarah. Memorial Diens by Durban Noord Methodiste Kerk 25/01/2008 0m 11vm. Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH PMB 0333426116.
SCHROENN Gaye † 21/01/2008 . Dogter van Rae & Bob SCHROENN . Suster van Robin en Lesley, Tannie van Justin, Matthew, Gareth, Nicole en Jacqueline. Begrafnis by DOVES Greyville 25/01/2008 om 2nm. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500 .
STEYN Dalene Sandra van Finch Haven Austerville. Begrafnis 23/01/2008 by Christ The King Parish Wentworth om 12 middag. Daarna na Dudley Rd Begraafplaas.
SYDNEY Pamela Erica † 19/01/2008 .Ma van Tinks, Dennis, Dean, Kylie en Kyran. Meemorial by Our Lady Star of The Sea Katolieke Kerk Amanzimtoti 24/01/2008 om 11vm.
MEMORIAM:- KING Eric Basil 1 jaar dood nou x Jeanie .Pa van Jessica.
MAWSON Penny Vriendin van Peter, Shaaron n Tasha PULLEN.
MENDES R Alfredo .x Laura .Pa en oupa.
SAMUEL James † 23/01/1974 . Pa van Amy en oupa van Esme en Trevor POWYS.
STEEL Charles William (Charlie) † 23/01/1992 . Pa van Lynn, Grace, Jess, Leslie en Charles ,skoonpa en oupa.
WILSON Warren 2 jaar dood nou. Kleinkind van Sheila en " nephew " van Donald.; Ook onthou deur ouers ,Lee, Lachelle, Jason, Jennifer en Cassie.
CONCECRATION:- Onthulling van Steen van PERLING Stephen by Redhill Begraafplaas Joodse Afdeling. op 27/01/2008 om 11.30 vm.
OP SOEK NA :- POTGIETER Coenrad Frederick * +/- 1935 bekend as George . Gesoek deur Vivienne . SMS of bel by 0824439631.
Gegroet uit Warm Durban Rita Qubbemann.
Boodskap 3. MY VRAAG IS BEANTWOORD Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:35 pm (PST)
Goeie môre gesiglose vriende en vriendinne
Baie dankie vir die terugvoer. Nee wat, ek het net doodgewoon nie nou die tyd om daar te gaan loer nie en beurtkrag laat dit laat dit ook nie toe nie Dit lyk al asof ek aan vertraagde reaksies ly! Mens kan net niks behoorlik beplan en tot uitvoer bring nie; 'n groot bron van frustrasie vir my geordene streep wat ek weg het. Ek is net aanlyn as bevoorreg is om krag te hê; ek kan nie opwekkers bekostig nie. Ek is van lyn af ook geantwoord en is daarop attent gemaak dat dit al 'n veelbesproke besprekingspunt was ook in die verlede. Ek het tot dusver nog nie probleme opgetel nie en ek hoop dit kan so bly. Ek kan die onderskeid tref van reg en verkeerd en van my kant af sal ek my bes probeer om nie enige geskrewe of ongeskrewe reël te oortree nie. Ek het in elk geval 'n broertjie dood aan oneerlikheid. Dit reflekteer/"back fire" maar net op jouself. Ek wil nie stotter en stamer oor antwoorde nie. Ek wil ook nie met 'n gewetenswroeging sit nie dankie! Ek wil beslis ook nie 'n gek van myself maak nie. Ek is ernstig met my navorsing en speel nie speletjies nie. Skuus as ek nou te "kras" klink maar dis my "taamlik ernstige" geaardheid as "Steenbok" en hoe ek opgevoed is. Let wel ek praat van myself! Ek weet nie wie die mense is wat hul aan enige wanpraktyke al skuldig gemaak het nie en ek wil ook nie weet nie. Solank my pad nie met so 'n persoon s'n kruis nie sal ek baie verlig wees; nie lus vir drama nie. Vergun my ook net die geleentheid dat ek beslis 'n fout sal regstel hopelik met die nodige bewysstuk/ke!
Sterkte met almal se navorsing. Groete tot 'n volgende keer. Berna Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3079
Datum: Friday, January 25, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: Skeepslys of rede vir vertrek na Malacca? Hulp benodig From: Willeen Olivier
1b. Re: Skeepslys of rede vir vertrek na Malacca? Hulp benodig From: aneendewitt
2. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 24 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
3. Mans-Freilinck voorsate From: Martie du Toit
4. le ROUX - swart op wit From: bonnie sydow
5a. Voortrekkergrafte moet plek maak vir nuwe wisselaar!! From: Elizabeth Teir
5b. Re: Voortrekkergrafte moet plek maak vir nuwe wisselaar!! From: Dennis Laptop
6. Doopregister Zoutpansberg Hervormde Kerk From: Peet & Mari Mostert
7. Doopregister Hervormde kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
8a. MARAIS LANDMAN konneksie From: Karel Marais
8b. Re: MARAIS LANDMAN konneksie From: Ariel Rudolph
9a. Moolenbeek familie From: Rob Moolenbeek
9b. Re: Moolenbeek familie From: Louis Hurn
9c. Re: Moolenbeek familie From: Alta Roux
10. Johannes Petrus NIEUWOUDT From: dickydube
11. Re: Johannes Petrus NIEUWOUDT / HANOVER From: Alta Griffiths
12a. Re: Eloff, nasate van Paul Kruger From: Penny
13a. Re: Hulp benodig met sterfbesonderhede From: Jan van Rooy
14. Navraag ivm Slag van Waterloo. From: Marie Bossert
15a. Fauresmith From: Marie Bossert
15b. Re: Fauresmith From: Johan Brink
16a. Re: Philledelphia dope From: Annemie Lourens
17. [Koerant] The Mercury 24 Januarie 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
18. [Koerant] Berea Mail. 25 Jan 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
19. Roomys tydskrif From: Louis Olivier Boodskap 1a. Re: Skeepslys of rede vir vertrek na Malacca? Hulp benodig Posted by: "Willeen Olivier" [email protected] willempie5 Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:13 am (PST)
Liewe Lysteraars,
My kommentaar gaan nou niks bydra tot die onderwerp nie, maar Aneen se vraag hoekom iemand die Kaap sou verlaat om Malakka toe te gaan het my ver teruggevat! Ek het in die Nederlandse begrafplaas in Malakka gestaan, en gedink hoe enigiemand enige ander plek vrywillig kon verlaat en soontoe gaan. As ek reg onthou - dis voor ek genealogie begin beoefen het, so daar is nie fotos van die grafte nie :-( - was daar net een ou begrawe wat ouer as 40 was. Die meerderheid grafte was van mense wat tussen 16 - 25 dood is - en meer jong mans se grafte as wat ons hier sou verwag. Die jaar wat ek daar was was daar 'n Dengue-koors uitbraak, so ek was ook deeglik bewus van die verskriklike goggas wat daar rondhang. Petrus Johannes is besonder gelukkig dat hy teruggekom het!
Verstommend hoe kennis 'n mens se houding teenoor iets verander. Vir die vroeë Europeers was daardie 'n ekonomiese pot goud, en ons wonder of die kool die sous werd was ;-).
Willeen
PS As ek aan Malakka dink, dink ek aan die koraalbome wat op die teëldakke ontkiem en groei. Het darem foto's daarvan geneem!
Willeen Olivier Rooihuiskraal Kotzé, van Wyk, Olivier, Bosman, en al hulle voorgeslagte ...
Boodskap 1b. Re: Skeepslys of rede vir vertrek na Malacca? Hulp benodig Posted by: "aneendewitt" [email protected] aneendewitt Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:06 am (PST)
Dankie Gert en Willeen...
Ek het juis gisteraand vir Gert laat weet dat Petrus Johannes moontlik 'n vorm van diensplig probeer het. Ek wonder eintlik net daaroor. Die Dennis de Witt is 'n nasaat van Petrus Johannes se mense en hulle "tak" woon in Melaka, Maleisië. As ander mense dalk ook 'n bietjie lig kan werp sal dit baie gaaf wees. ;o)
Groete, Aneen
Boodskap 2. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 24 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:34 am (PST)
Dankbetuigings BOTHA, Brendon. +14 Jan 2008. Dankie vir ondersteuning. Phillip, Rita en Nico BOTHA. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 24/01/2008)
In Memoriam BOTHA, Brendon. Geluk met 24ste verjaarsdag. Pa, Ma en broer Nico. (Die Burger Oos- Kaap 24/01/2008)
Sterfgevalle AINSLIE, Izak Christiaan. +22 Jan 2008 in Port Elizabeth. Ons vader, broer en oupa. Roudiens Vrydag 25 Jan 2008 11:00 NG Kerk, Bothasrus Gemeente, Despatch. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 24/01/2008) Esmé Groenewald AVBOB Uitenhage 041 922 8066
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 3. Mans-Freilinck voorsate Posted by: "Martie du Toit" [email protected] martie_dutoit Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:48 am (PST)
Ek soek namens 'n Van Rooyennasaat inligting rakende die ouers en verdere voorsate van Johan Wilhelm MANS. Ek het sy ouers as Marthinus Gerhardus MANS en Johanna Wilhelmina FREILINCK
Hieronder volg die gesin van Johan Wilhelm
Johan Wilhelm MANS * 9.3.1892 + 13.8.1971 x Hester Johanna Sophia VAN ROOYEN * 26.12.1896 = 14.2.1897 Getuies Jacobus Johannes Louw Burger, Anna Magdalena Burger + Upington 17.4.1982 x 1919
1 Hester Johanna Sophia MANS onderwyseres * 8.6.1919 + 14.3.2007 x Gerrit Jacobus MANS (neef) handelaar Sesbrugge * 12.3.1918 + 30.8.1996
2 Johanna Wilhelmina MANS * 14.9.1920 = Kenhardt 14.11.1920 Getuies Johanna Wilhelmina Mans, Marthinus Gerhardus Mans + 1.7.2007 x Hendrik Gideon LUBBE * 24.6.1914 + 11.3.2003 {s.v. Willem Lubbe en Bettie NN vanaf Vosburg}
3 Louisa Jacoba (Wiesie) MANS * 18.10.22 = Kenhardt 26.11.1922 Getuies Anna Magdalena Jacoba van Rooyen, Alwyn Jacobus van Rooyen, Hes Maria Heymans + 18.4.1933
4 Marthinus Gerhardus MANS besproeiingsboer Kakamas * 27.5.1924 = Kenhardt 31.8.1934 Getuies Marthinus Gerhardus Mans, Maria Zandberg, Regina Maria van Rooyen, Izak Stefanus Louw + 3.1.1999 x Hendrina Johanna Maria KARSTEN * 23.3.1924 {d.v. Piet KARSTEN en Annie THOMSON}
5 Regina Maria MANS * 15.8.1926 = Kenhardt 29.8.1926 Getuies Izak Stefanus Louw en Regina Maria Louw + 00.6.1989 x Lodewyk Christoffel DU PLESSIS {s.v. Hendrik DU PLESSIS en Gerrie GRESSE}
6 Anna Maria MANS * 25.2.1930 x Kakamas 31.12.1947 Alexander Frank William VAN ZYL * Warmbad, SWA 22.5.1923 + 11.2.1999 {s.v. Koot van Zyl en Elizabeth (Bettie) Thomson (suster van Annie by e4)} Die huweliksregister op troudatum gee Alexander Frank Henry William Cruickshank van Zyl en die bruidegom teken as AFHWC van Zyl. Op 2.5.1965 word sy name in die huweliksregister aangepas tot slegs eersgenoemde drie bo om ooreen te stem met sy geboortesertifikaat (Cruickshank/Crushank? is die Skotse familienaam aan moederskant)
7 Elias Albertus MANS * 10.7.1932. Op 12.1.1941 deur 'n perd geskop + 25.4.1941 na kop-operasies en afwisselend hospitaal- en tuisverblyf
8 Maria Anna MANS * Neus, Kakamas 4.3.1937 x Kakamas 23.6.1956 Willem Hermanus VAN ZYL (broer van Alexander, kyk e6) * Aroab SWA 4.11.1931
Baie dankie Martie
Martie du Toit Bellville 021 945 3356 / 083 597 0165 Du Toit b5c1d1e8f6g3h5i1j1 - Naudé a2b1c4d1e5f2g1[h1] Navorser Van Rooyen-familie, nageslag van Anthonius van Rooyen (Noordkaap)
Boodskap 4. le ROUX - swart op wit Posted by: "bonnie sydow" [email protected] Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:50 am (PST)
Hallo vriende
Daar word altyd gesê “jy kan dit glo as dit swart op wit is” maar hieraan twyfel ek sterk omrede die volgende 3 berigte in Die Burger van 24.1.2008!
1. Le ROUX Jopie, 26.8.1913 – 21.1.2008. Ons sal haar met liefde & respek onthou… Carina, Corrie, Jannie, Amerie & hul gades, kinders & kleinkinders. Dankdiens by NG Kerk Agter Paarl 26.1.2008.
2. Le ROUX Jopie, 26.8.1914 – 21.1.2008 – Ons troos ons dat sy nou rustig by Hom, oupa Joel, en haar geliefde Francois is-
Dankie aan Amarie & kinders vir jul onbaatsugtige versorging van ouma toe sy nog in die Paarl was. Carina & Ferdie julle het ouma se laaste jare n fees gemaak. – Jan, Nerina, Niel, Andrea, Jarene, Heinie & klein Carla
3. Le ROUX ouma Yopie - Kleindogter Jeanne & agterkleindogter Natalie & David.
Ek wou eers net die gedeeltes waar die verskille gesien is tik, maar het toe die boodskappe & name bygevoeg omdat iemand dit dalk kan gebruik.
Is dit so dat die Wes Kaap n baie ongesonde plek is? Ek vra omdat die Beeld (Pretoria), Die Burger (Oos Kaap), & ander koerante van elders so min sterfberigte bevat. Vandag se Die Burger bevat 44 berigte en dit is geen uitsondering nie!
Groete vanaf Bellville
Bonnie
NS. As julle besef dat hierdie briefie vir my 20 minute geneem het om te tik, sal julle besef waarom ek nie aanbied om Die Burger se berigte daagliks vir julle te stuur nie!!!!!!
Boodskap 5a. Voortrekkergrafte moet plek maak vir nuwe wisselaar!! Posted by: "Elizabeth Teir" [email protected] kerrieborrie Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:22 am (PST)
Voortrekkergrafte moet plek maak vir nuwe wisselaar Jan 23 2008 11:16:47:963PM - (SA)
Amanda Roestoff
Muldersdrift. – Negentien grafstene en ’n 1938-gedenksteen ter viering van die Groot Trek is gister hier verwyder om plek te maak vir ’n nuwe wisselaar by die Pinehaven-kruising (R28/N14) wat voor die Wêreldbeker-sokkertoernooi in 2010 aan die Wes-Rand voltooi moet word.
Van dié “eerste skoolhoof in die gebied” tot “die eerste Voortrekkers wat in Transvaal aangekom het”, se oorskot sal volgende week uit die eeu oue grafte opgegrawe word en dieselfde dag in die Sterkfontein-begraafplaas in Krugersdorp herbegrawe word.
Mev. Hazel du Plessis (72) van Discovery, Roodepoort, vertel mnr. Johannes Francois du Toit was die eerste skoolhoof in dié gebied.
Hy is op die 3 April 1935 op die ouderdom van 68 jaar oorlede.
Haar oupa, mnr. Johannes Christoffel Snyman, ’n grootwildjagter en “eerste Voortrekker” het ’n bekende boer in die gemeenskap geword.
“Die werkers het van hom gehou. Hy was soms Ou Buffel genoem omdat hy nie baie vriendelik was nie,” sê sy.
Die oorspronklike plaashuis van die Snymans vorm vandag deel van Bergvallei, ’n konferensiefasiliteit waar troues ook gereeld gehou word. Een van haar ouma se susters het met ’n Mulder getrou en hulle het naby die Krokodilrivier (“The drift”) gaan bly. Vandaar die gebied se naam – Muldersdrift.
Mnr. Anton Fourie, ’n argeoloog van Professional Grave Solutions (PGS) in Pretoria, sê die grafte van die “oorspronklike Voortrekkers” sal Maandag per hand opgegrawe word.
Elke graf se oorskot word in die teenwoordigheid van familie (indien hulle wil toekyk), in kiste geplaas en na nuwe grafte by Sterkfontein-begraafplaas geneem.
Daar is in Mei met ’n openbare deelnameproses begin en advertensies is in plaaslike koerante geplaas om familielede van die afgestorwenes op te spoor. Verskeie permitte moes bekom word om die oorskotte op te grawe en te herbegrawe.
Die oudste graf is 110 jaar oud en is dié van Checilah Johanna J. Snijman, wat op 19 Desember 1897 in die ouderdom van 31 jaar dood is.
Martins Funerals in Randburg sal vandag die grafstene verwyder. Die grafstene word dan vir ’n maand by Galaxy Memorials in Tarlton gestoor, omdat grafstene nie dadelik op nuwe grafte gesit kan word nie. Al die koste word deur private ontwikkelaars gedra.
’n Winkelsentrum van sowat 25 000m2 gaan ook naby die nuwe wisselaar gebou word.
Dié ontwikkelings vorm onder andere deel van die oorhoofse ontwikkelingsplan van die Johannesburgse Padagentskap (JRA) om die Pinehaven-kruising veiliger te maak vir motoriste en die vloei van verkeer na die Wieg van die Mensdom meer toeganklik te maak
Boodskap 5b. Re: Voortrekkergrafte moet plek maak vir nuwe wisselaar!! Posted by: "Dennis Laptop" [email protected] dennis_pretorius Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:17 am (PST)
Hallo Elizabeth
Ons hier in Krugersdorp het lank en hard gestry dat daar werk gemaak moet word van hierdie padveranderings - die kruising het groot lewensverlies veroorsaak en dit het dringend noodsaaklik geword.
Die gemeenskap het selfs 'n beswaaroptog gehad oor hierdie kruising - en die deelnemers was hoofsaaklik blanke inwoners amper 'n Boere-Toi-Toi ;-))
Ongelukkig gaan hierdie klein begraafplaas in die proses verskuif moet word maar dit het gepaard gegaan met baie konsultasie en het voldoen aan die wetlikke voorskrifte.
Die oorskot sal herbegrawe word in die Sterkfontein begraafplaas waar dit die nodige erkenning sal kry
Ek dink dat dit 'n wen-wen situation was
Groetnis
Dennis Pretorius, Krugersdorp, South Africa/Suid Afrika Executive Member of GSSA / Uitvoerende Lid van GGSA Genealogical Researcher/Genealogiese Navorser Owner of SAGenealogy E-mail list/Lyseienaar - SAGenealogie poslys E-Mail/E-pos: [email protected] Web address/Webadres: http://mzone.mweb.co.za/residents/k75/genealogy.html Telephone/Telefoon: +27-83-679-8541 Fax/Faks +27-86-609-8541
Boodskap 6. Doopregister Zoutpansberg Hervormde Kerk Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:56 am (PST)
P 122 1866
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG DEN 15 DEN APRIL 1866
613 Johanna Maria geb 17 Maart 1866
Ouders: Johannis Jacobus POTGIETER
Susanna Magrietha HERBST ...... ? weduwee JAKOBS
Get: Johan Jacobus Andreas VERCEUIL en
Helena Catharina VERCEUIL / BOTHA
Paul Stephanus BOTHA en
Johanna Cornelia BOTHA / VERCEUIL
614 Neeltje Cornelia geb 14 January 1866
Ouders: Jan Johannis POTGIETER
Elisabetha POTGIETER / VAN DER MERWE
Get: David Schalk VAN DER MERWE en
Neeltje VAN DER MERWE
Susara Frederika ROETS / POTGIETER
Johannis ROETS
Jan Jacobus VAN DER MERWE
615 Pieter Daniel Andries Salomon geb 7 Feb 1866
Ouders: Pieter Daniel Andreas Salomon DU PREEZ
Geertruida Aletha DU PREEZ / BOTHA
Get: Teunis Johannis Jakobus DU PREZ
Johannis Lodewicus Hermanus DU PREZ en
Zacharya Catharina DU PREZ / VAN DYK
P 123 1866
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG 15 APRIL
616 Pieter Ernest geb 19 January 1866
Ouders: Dietlof Sigfried MARé
Johanna Elisabet MARé / KRUGER
Get: Philippus Rudolph BOTHA en
Elisabet Petronella BOTHA / MARé
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG 29 APRIL 1866 DOOR DEN PREDIKANT N.J. VAN WARMELO
617 Jacoba Johanna Catharina geb 13 Maart 1866
Ouders: Paul Stefanus POTGIETER
Suzanna Magdalena POTGIETER / DUVENAGE
Get: Johannes Petrus KLOPPERS en
Maria Jacoba KLOPPERS / MINNAAR
Willem Johannes GROBLER en
Hester Catharina GROBLER / POTGIETER
GEDOOPT DEN 6 DEN MEI 1866 TE ZOUTPANSBERG DOOR DEN PREDIKANT N.J. VAN WARMELO
618 Aletta Elisabetha geb 8 Maart 1866
Ouders: Joachim Petrus JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Susara JANSE VAN RENSBURG / LA GRANGE
Get: David Johannis Stefanus HERBST en
Hester Martha HERBST / JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Jakob DE KLERK en
Martha Sofeia DE KLERK / J.VAN RENSBURG
619 Elsje Catharina Maria Johanna geb 2 April 1866
Ouders: Teunis Johannis BOTHA
Maria Susanna BOTHA / ALDIGER
Get: Elisabetha Margrietha BOTHA
Jacobus Hendrik DUVENAGE en
Helena Gertruida DUVENAGE / JAKOBS
P 124 1866
620 Anna Christina geb 10 Feb 1866
Ouders: Jasper AITCHISON
Susanna Sofeia AITCHISON / MINNAAR
Get: Jan STRYDOM
Johanna Magdalena STRYDOM / MARé
R.A.
R.A. VAN NISPEN
Jacoba Magdalena Lourens NUNES / MARNITZ
GEDOOPT TE ZOUYPANSBERG DEN 27 MEI 1866
621 Anna maria Dorothea geb 1 Maart 1866
Ouders: Stoffel Johannis SNYMAN
Maria Johanna SNYMAN / NEL
Get: Johannis Augustinus BREEDT en
Dorothea Magdalena Carolina BREEDT / COMBRINK
Cornelia Gertruida SNYMAN / VAN EMMENIS
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG DEN 8 JUNY 1866 DOOR DEN PREDIKANT N.J. VAN WARMELO
622 Cornelia Sofeia geb 9 Mei 1866
Ouders: Daniel Jacobus VENTER
Johanna Christina VENTER / VAN DYK
Get: Stefanus Martinus VENTER en
Helena Maria Magdalena VENTER / ROBBERTSE
Jacobus Daniel VENTER en
Anna Sofeia VENTER / VENTER
623 Neeltje Elisabetha Philippina geb 4 Maart 1866
Ouders: Andries Hendrik POTGIETER
Neeltje Elisabetha Philippina POTGIETER / BOTHA
Get: Nicolaas Johannis VAN HEERDEN en
Dorothea VAN HEERDEN / POTGIETER
Jacobus Johannis Andreas VERCEUIL en
Magdalena Carolina VERCEUIL / BOTHA
P 125 1866
624 Jacobus Johannes Petrus Paulus geb 24 April 1866
Ouders: Petrus Paulus HUGO
Magdalena Willemina Geertruida HUGO / ROETS
Get: Christoffel Gerhardus SNYMAN en
Catharina Frederika SNYMAN / ELOF
Gerhardus Theodorus FOURIE en
Johanna Magdalena FOURIE
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert
Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 7. Doopregister Hervormde kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:57 am (PST)
625 Hendrik Josefus geb 18 Maart 1866
Ouders: Petrus Alewyn BOTHA
Emmerencie Adriana BOTHA / GEYSER
Get: Frederik ESTERHUISEN en
Johanna Christina ESTERHUIZEN / BOTHA
Martinus Frederik GEYSER
626 Hendrik Adriaan geb 26 April 1866
Ouders: Stefnaus Andries VAN EMMENIS
Anna Francina VAN EMMENIS / ROETS
Get: Pieter Johannis Leenderts ROETS en
Anna Francina ROETS / ERASMUS
Roelof Johannis STRYDOM en
Christina Elizabeth STRYDOM / NAGEL
627 Gerrit Lourens Johannis geb 20 Feb 1866
Ouders: Roelof Jacobus VAN EMMENIS
Geertruida Willimina Magdalena VAN EMMENIS / JONKER
Get: Gerrit Lourens VAN EMMENIS en
Anna Jacoba VAN EMMENIS / GEYSER
Johannis Jacobus STRYDOM en
Anna Johanna Catharina STRYDOM / VAN EMMENIS
P 126 1866
628 Johannis Roedolf geb 11 Juny 1865
Ouders: Nicolaas Christoffel NAGEL (Niet lidmaat)
Willemina Suzanna NAGEL / RASLOUW
Get: I.F. RASLOUW en
Elisabetha RASLOUW / HIGG ?
R.J. STRYDOM - doopvader
C. Elisabeth NAGEL
629 Maria Dorothea Elisabetha geb 12 April 1866
Ouders: Martinus Christoffel VORSTER
Maria Dorothea VORSTER / HOLLIDAAI
Get: Barend Jacobus VORSTER en
Alida Suzanna Grietha VORSTER / BOTHA
Teunis Johannis BOTHA en
Suzara Maria Johanna BOTHA / DUVENAGE
630 Hendrina Cecilia Maria geb 24 Febr 1866
Ouders: Gideon Johannis SNYMAN
Hendrina Cecilia Johanna SNYMAN / DUVENAGE
Get: Barend Christoffel DUVENAGE en
Elsje Magdalena DUVENGE
Teunis Hassie DUVENAGE en
Johanna Willemina DUVENAGE / SMIT
David Benjamin SNYMAN
631 Pieter geb 2 Mei 1866
Ouders: Johannis Hermanus GROBLER
Gerharda Suzanna GROBLER / FOURIE
Get: Nicolaas Johannis GROBLER en
Maria Magdalena GROBLER / FOURIE
Willem Abraham GROBLER en
Hester Catharina GROBLER / POTGIETER
P 127 1866
632 Deurgeskrap:
Jan Christoffel geb 14 Mei 1865
Ouders: Juan ALBISINI – RC
Gertina Petronella Maria J VAN RENSBURG
632 Maria Elisabet geb 30 April 1866
Ouders: Hendrik Rutgen SCHNELL
Antoinetta Dorothea FORTMAN
Get: Gertina Petronella Maria ALBASINI / J V RENSBURG
Jan Augustinus BREEDT
Dorothea Magdalena BREEDT / COMBRINK
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG DEN 24 DEN JUNY 1866 DOOR DEN PREDIKANT N.J.V.W.
633 Françina Magdalena Sofeia
Johannis jacobus Adriaan VERCEUIL en
Helena Catharina VERCEUIL / BOTHA
Jacoba Magdalena Lourens NUNES / MARNITS
Jasper AITCHISON en
Suzanna Sofeia AITCHISON / MINNAAR
GEDOOPT DEN 15 JULY 1866 TE ZOUTPANSBERG
634 Christoffel Gerhardus geb 15 April 1866
Ouders: Christoffel Gerhardus SNYMAN
Catharina Frederika Sofeia SNYMAN / ELOF
Get: Petrus Johannes SNYMAN en
Petronella SNYMAN / ROBBERTSE
Hendrik Johannis HATTINK en
Martha Catharina HATTINK / SNYMAN
635 Adolf Jakobus geb 17 April 1866
Ouders: Petrus Gasparus SNYDERS
Jacoba Johanna Pieternella Maria SNYDERS / JONKER
Get: Elsje Maria Magdalena VAN EMMENIS / wed KOESTER
Maria Magdlane Johanna VAN EMMENIS
Philip VENTER – diaken en
Anna Suzanna Cecilia VENTER / ELOF
P 128 1866
636 Christina Johanna Elisabet geb 9 Juny 1866
Ouders: Ali Jacobus MARAIS
Judith Johanna Suzanna MARIAS / SMIT
Get: Salmon Johannis MARAIS
Cornelia Sofeia Elisabetha Johanna VERSTER
637 Harklaas Philippus Roedolf 1 Juny 1866
Ouders: (David) Adriaan Johannes KRIEGER (invoegsel : M.J.C.R.D.A. – scriba)
Pietronella Christina KRIEGER / BOTHA
Get: Adriaan (deurgeskrap) Ali Jacobus MARAIS en
Judith Johanna Suzanna MARIAS / SMIT
Pieter Ernest KRIEGER en
Willemina Katharina KRIEGER / JAKOBSE
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 8a. MARAIS LANDMAN konneksie Posted by: "Karel Marais" [email protected] turando101 Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:36 am (PST)
Dagse,
In my Marais familie is die "LANDMAN" as deel van die naam "Johan Abraham Landman Marais" aan al die oudste seuns gegee (ek is die uitsondering).
Weet iemand dalk waar die LANDMAN vandaan kom...ek het geen LANDMAN konneksie in my databasis nie. groete, Karel Marais
Marais x Thurnau Lloyd x ? Bennett x Cloete Webber x Maskrey Zurnamer
Boodskap 8b. Re: MARAIS LANDMAN konneksie Posted by: "Ariel Rudolph" [email protected] arielrudolph Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:27 pm (PST)
Karel,
Is jou herkoms van die Natal Marais's af?
Die De Jager's, Meyer's, Landman's, Marais's was almal deurmekaar getroud as gevold van die families wat saam getrek het en in Natal huule self gevestig het.
Dit is die moeite werd om die konneksie te bestudeer.
Groete -- Ariel Israel (Tans in die VSA alweer) Navorsing: Die hele RUDOLPH van http://rudolph-gen.com
Boodskap 9a. Moolenbeek familie Posted by: "Rob Moolenbeek" [email protected] rmoolenbeek Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:58 am (PST)
Ik ben op zoek naar familie Moolenbeek die naar Zuid Aftika geemigreerd is (~1900). De familie die geemigreerd was was een slager Cornelis Moolenbeek die in Bethal ZA heeft gewoont.
I zou all gegevens, of advies om iets meer te vinden graag waarderen.
Rob Moolenbeek
Boodskap 9b. Re: Moolenbeek familie Posted by: "Louis Hurn" [email protected] ljhurn Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:21 am (PST)
Hallo Rob,
Ek het Die kleinseun van Cornelis Moolenbeek opgespoor in Pretoria sy naam is Gerrie Molenbeek. Ek het jou epos vir hom aangestuur en hy het belowe om jou te kontak. Indien hy jou nie kontak binne 'n week of so nie, laat weet my en ek sal sy detail kry en vir jou aanstuur.
Groete vanuit 'n warm Durban.
Louis Hurn.
Boodskap 9c. Re: Moolenbeek familie Posted by: "Alta Roux" [email protected] genealogiefreak Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:34 am (PST)
Rob
In Bethal se ou begraafplaas is daar slegs twee molenbeeks begrawe: Cornelis Molenbeek 9.11.1885 - 19.1.1948 sterf aan kroniese myokarditis en Bertie Molenbeek 7.6.1906 - 16.3.1977 (eengraf) Op Cornelis se graf staan 'eggenoot en vader.'
Groete Alta van Kinross
Boodskap 10. Johannes Petrus NIEUWOUDT Posted by: "dickydube" [email protected] dickydube Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:29 am (PST)
Middag Lyslesers,
Is daar moontlik iemand wie my kan help met die nageslagte van
Johannes Petrus NIEUWOUDT, *9 Apr 1887 te Rooikraal, dist Hanover +14 Jun 1938 Algemene Hospitaal, Johannesburg
X te Heilbron OVS met
Magritha Magdalena MARAIS *1888 ??? +16 Apr 1948 York Laan, Ferndale, Johannesburg
Dit wil voorkom of daar 5/6 kinders uit die huwelik gebore vanwie die twee oudstes seuns was nl:
1. Johannes Jacobus * +/- 1910 2. Charles Thomas * +/- 1912
Ek waardeer werklik enige hulp
Vriendelike groete, Cathy Nieuwoudt Birmingham V.S.A.
Boodskap 11. Re: Johannes Petrus NIEUWOUDT / HANOVER Posted by: "Alta Griffiths" [email protected] griffithsalta Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:01 pm (PST)
Cathy
Jou e-pos vroeer vandag na my toe verwys. Ek het probeer om jou direk te antwoord - maar die boodskap bly terugkom 'undelivered'
Ek het nie die hele HANOVER BP afgeneem nie. Die BP word vandag nog gebruik. Daar was egter heelwat stene wat se inskrywings heeltamel onleesbaar was en baie onopgemaakte grafte.
Ek is egter bevrees baie van die mense is op die plase begrawe - en het sommer inskrywings op 'n stuk steen uitgegraveer. Jy sal oor die goed val in die veld en nie weet dit is 'n graf nie!
Jammer ek kan nie van meer hulp wees nie.
Groete
Alta
Boodskap 12a. Re: Eloff, nasate van Paul Kruger Posted by: "Penny" [email protected] Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:18 pm (PST)
Dear Francois,
I have information about Stefanus Johannes Paul Eloff, born 7 Oct 1885 in France. His mother was Elsje Kruger born 19 March 1853 and her father was Stephanus Johannes Paulus Kruger born on 10 October 1825. The Eloff you mention was lost in a desert, but the Eloff that I have info about was a sculptor and I have many of his personal papers and also photos of many of his sculptures. Related to SJP Eloff was PGW Grobler, one time MP for the Transvaal and I have his documents and family photos too.
Best regards,
Penny
Boodskap 13a. Re: Hulp benodig met sterfbesonderhede Posted by: "Jan van Rooy" [email protected] jlvanrooy Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:44 pm (PST)
Die stamvader van die Van Rooy-familie het 10 kinders en 88 kleinkinders gehad! Ek kort nou nog net 1 van die 88 kleinkinders se sterfbesonderhede (plek en datum).
Haar besonderhede is: b6c3 Johanna Maria (Tuttie) van Rooy * Steynsburg 9.11.1899 x Steynsburg 2.7.1919 Douw Gerbrand STEYN * 27.8.1897 † Pretoria 6.4.1961, boer, dist. Venterstad dv. Willem Izak van Rooy en Johanna Maria Lion Cachet
Sy is glo in Pretoria oorlede en begrawe.
U hulp sal baie waardeer word om hierdie laaste legkaartstukkie op sy plek te plaas.
Groete Jan van Rooy www.vanrooy.org.za
Boodskap 14. Navraag ivm Slag van Waterloo. Posted by: "Marie Bossert" [email protected] am2bert Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:15 pm (PST)
Middag almal,
Ek sal dit waardeer as iemand met hierdie vraag kan help. Ek het 'n artikel oor Adriaan Hendricus Stander (my oor-oupagrootjie) gelees waarin genoem word dat sy gade naamlik Elizabeth Catherine Wilmans/Welmans se oupa omgekom het in die slag van Waterloo. Die artikel noem ook dat sy vader, 'n skeepskaptein was en van Frankryk afkomstig was.
Hierdie artikel was 'n verklaring van P.J. Botha van Bandolierskop, Soutpansberg, en hy was 'n kleinseun van Adriaan Henricus Stander. Die artikel was in 1912 uitgereik. Ek haal 'n sin aan uit die artikel wat as volg lui: "Haar grootvader, mijn overgrootvader dus, was het énige kind, en hij heeft mij nog enige lesgegeven, aan huis mijner ouders".
Enige inligting hoe gering ookal sal baie waardeer word.
Met vriendelike groetnis uit New Zealand, Marie Bossert.
Boodskap 15a. Fauresmith Posted by: "Marie Bossert" [email protected] am2bert Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:19 pm (PST)
Middag almal,
Ek wil graag navraag doen oor wanneer die Nederduitse Gereformeerde Kerk gestig was vir Fauresmith. Ek sou ook graag wou weet waar kinders gedoop was voor die kerk aldaar gestig was.
Ek sal dit waardeer om enige inligting in hierdie verband te ontvang.
Met vriendelike groetnis uit New Zealand, Marie Bossert.
Boodskap 15b. Re: Fauresmith Posted by: "Johan Brink" [email protected] Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:45 pm (PST)
Marie,
Die NGK in Fauresmith, gestig op 11 Maart 1848 as die naas oudste gemeente in die Vrystaat [NGK Winburg is gestig 31 Maart 1842]. Gedagtig daaraan dat dit gevolg het na die trek-beweging vanaf die Kaap na die binneland, is dit moontlik dat die 'trekkerkinders' voorheen deur besoekende predikante (soos oa. ds Daniel Lindley) sover as vanaf Graaff-Reinet (1792), Colesberg (1826) en Richmond (1843)gedoop kon wees.
Groete.
Johan Vermont, Hermanus
Boodskap 16a. Re: Philledelphia dope Posted by: "Annemie Lourens" [email protected] annemielourens Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:24 pm (PST)
Hello Anita
Ek weet nie van iemand wat Philladelphia se doopregisters het nie, as jy dit kry sal jy my laat weet asb.
Groete Annemie
Boodskap 17. [Koerant] The Mercury 24 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:30 pm (PST)
Dag vriende ,
QUICKQUIP:- " The grass may look greener on the otherside, but it's just as hard to cut. " Little Richard.
GEBOORTES:- BUCKI Nathan & Candice 'n seun Jason Rocco * 22/01/2008 in Westville.
VERLOWING:- JONES Garreth & Rae se seun Richard aan Kim dogter van Richard & Trisha ENGLAND. Trisha se kontak nr 0824623007.
DOOD:- ANDRE Jean Marie + 18/01/2008 . Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
BENSON Evelyn Loretha (Evie) + 19/01/2008 . Ma van Edwina en Ronnie, Pauline & Anton, en Paul. Ouma van Candice, Wesley en Andre. Oumagroot van Amber.
BROOKS Kenneth . Pa van Craig en Mandy. Broer van Eric. Begrafnis by Redhill Begraafplaas Joodse Afdeling op 24/01/2008 om 12 middag.
BUTLER Eric Thomas + 19/01/2008 . Verassing privaat. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
CARDINAL Cyril Bernard John x Pauline. Pa van Steven, Patricia, Shae, en Chanan CLARK; Ook van Bryan, Felicity , Guy en Brett AIREY; Cheryl en Rob.: Pa van Gai en Clive , stiefpa van Cheryl, Patricia en Felicity. Requiem Mass by St Joseph's Katolieke Kerk Morningside Durban op 25/01/2008 om 2nm. "Wake" by Berea Bowling Club net daarna . Ingesit deur BELL Funeral.
COLEMAN Gloria Lilian van Wentworth . Ma van Bella, Norma, Lorraine, Harry, Gregory , Phillip, Glen, Tony, Mimmie en + Geoffrey en Allan.Skoonma ,ouma en oumagroot. Begrafnis uit Christ The King Church Wentworth op 25/01/2008 om 11vm. Verassing privaat. Ingesit deur ISIPINGO Inc PAM'S.
DAVIS Beulah + 21/01/2008. " Former Director & Founder of Natal Sharks Board " Ma van Gaye (Richard, Jack en India Jane CALLAND Rose en Thabo, Joshua en Zoe NEL) en Rose. Suster van Uriel metgesel van Yvonne. Ouma van Jack, India, Jane, Joshua en Zoe. Begrafnis op 25/01/2008 by St James Church Morningside om 11.30 vm Verassing privaat.
DEEDO (KELL) Lillian x Britt. Ma, ouma en oumagroot van Tim, Trish, Jess, Col en Gabi, Cas en Joel.
DEGEE Anthony Francis 13/07/1947 ------23/01/2008. Seun van Rubina & + Reginald.
FYVIE Dr Hugh + 21/01/2008 x Margie. Pa en oupa van Harry, Margerite ,Melinda, Jonathan en Justin HOWLETT . Begrafnis by St Agnes Church op 25/01/2008 om 3 nm. Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH 031 2059959.
GERRARD Trevor . Simpatie aan Ann en familie van " The JACKSONS "- Anita, Gary, Sandy, Sharon, Lise en families. ; Simpatie aan Ann, Nikki, Brent en Darren . Neef van Lise en Brad.
GLOVER Marilyn Ann 16/11/1967 ---- + 17/01/2007.Sterf tragies.Dogter van Willie & Edith. Suster van Priscilla en Rhett JOHNSON ,Wayne , Eugene en Nadine en Neil GLOVER. Tannie van Téquan ,Kaliem, Kyle , Jason, Aurien en Samuelle . Begrafnis by DOVES Greyville 26/01/2008 om 9vm. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
GOURLAY Ian Stuart . Aan Rosie en familie simpatie van Johnno, Debs, Stev, Andrew en Megs. Memorial by Grace Family Church Umhlanga Rocks 25/01/2008 om 2.30 nm. Ingesit deur BELL Funerals.
HAINES Dennis William x Ruelle .Pa van Richard, Nicholas, Christopher, Anthony, Jennifer en familie.Memorial by Pioneer House Chapel Oaklands JHB op 26/01/2008 om 10 vm. TEL:- Ruelle 0798720625.
KYNASTON Annie + 22/01/2008. by Essenwood Residence. Ma van Esmond, Herbie en Leonard .Memorial by St Cyprian's Anglikaanse Kerk Umbilo 25/01/2008 om 12 middag.
MARAIS Daniel Johannes (Danie) + 22/01/2008 .Nou saam met ma en ouma. Pa en oupa van Juan,( Roger, Andre, Eugene, Etienne, Carla en Samantha) ; Pa van Ingrid, Uraine, Don en Jacques.
MORRIS Michael Robert + 22/01/2008 x Wendy .Pa van Theresa en Cheryl. Memorial op 25/01/2008 om 10vm by Highland Hills United Church Pinetown .
SANDERS Florence Edith + 18/01/2008 . Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
SCHROENN Stephany Gaye + 22/01/2008 . Dogter van Rae & Bob SCHROENN. Suster van Robin en Lesley, tannie van Justin , Matthew, Gareth, Nicole en Jacqueline. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
SMITH Derrick Lawson ( Ricky) + 21/01/2008.Metgesel van Karen. Pa van Cheri en Courtney. Seun van Derek & Elaine. Broer van Larry, Mark en Andy. Geen begrafnis. Verassing privaat.
SWART Lenny . Metgesel van Bernadette . Broer van Sylvia. Pa van Justin, Lee, Megan en Kyle. Begrafnis by Nederduitse Gereformeerde Kerk Amanzimtoti 26/01/2008 om 10 vm. Motorfietsryers ontmoet by CIT Shop om 8vm. Ingesit deur BELL Funerals.
WATERS Jack 10/04/1930 -----22/01/2008 x Connie. Pa van Roseanne en Roderick. Stiefpa van Greg en Leanne, skoonpa en oupa.
MEMORIAM:- STEWART Jane 8jaar dood nou. Onthou deur ouers en familie.
WHITEHAD Sarie. Ma en ouma.
Gegroet uit Durban waar dit al 'n paar druppels gereen het. Rita.
Boodskap 18. [Koerant] Berea Mail. 25 Jan 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:30 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:- " I don't believe in guilt, I believe in living on impulse as long as you never intentionally hurt another person, and don't judge people in yor life. I think you should live completely free. " - Angelina JOLIE American Actress.
DOOD:- BIER Violet * Oktober 1903 ----Jan 2008 . Ma van Brenda MOREIRA .
FIRST/ FINAL:- KRAUSS Gerald Lewis van Flat G 6, Garden Grove , 211 St Thomas Rd Berea. Durban. ID 1905305032087 + 30/05/2006 . ESTATE Nr. 7838/2006/PMB. MORRIS BROTHERS 31 Lonsdale Drive Durban Noord 4016. MX058756.
Nou reen dit ernstig in Durban Umbilo omgewing. Aletta Magrieta QUEBBEMANN ( Rita) 15 Mt Royal , Dunkirk Place Umbilo Durban. Suid Afrika Ouers:- STEENKAMP /LOURENS GROOTOUERS :-STEENKAMP/ SCHEEPERS LOURENS /SWANEPOEL / VELDMAN SKOONDOGTER: BOTHA /SWANEPOEL/ SMITH
Boodskap 19. Roomys tydskrif Posted by: "Louis Olivier" [email protected] Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:37 pm (PST)
'n Goeie vandag aan almal
Nadat (P)eskom en die Stadsraad ons vir 72 ure in die duister gehad het is daar darem weer vandag krag in die deel van Silverton.In die nuuste roomys tydskrif (MAGNUM) is 'n paar foto's van 'n Labuschagne se jagtogte in die 1920 by 'n stuk wat deur Carl Labuschagne geskryf is onder die hoof "A MAUSER RIFLE IN AFRICA". In dieselfde tydskrif is daar ook 'n stuk en foto's oor 'n 8 duim mortier (met die naam van SEEPPOT) wat deur die Boeremagte gebruik is tydens die beleg van Ladysmith.
Louis
Linda & Louis Olivier Pretoria 0128031028 [email protected] [email protected] Olivier, Coetzee, Swart, du Plooy Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3080
Datum: Friday, January 25, 2008
Daar is 6 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
2.1. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
3a. Re: Fauresmith From: Daniel Jacobs
4a. Re: Voortrekkergrafte moet plek maak vir nuwe wisselaar!! From: cgviljoen
5a. Re: NAAIRS - MHG soek From: Willeen Olivier
6. (Koerant) Beeld 25 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut Boodskap 1a. Doopinskrywings Hervormde kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:58 pm (PST)
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG DEN 12 DEN AUGUSTUS 1866 DOOR DEN PREDIKANT N.J. VAN WARMELO
638 Anna Suzanna Sofeia Catharina geb 7 Juny 1866
Ouders: Jacobus Daniel VENTER
Cornelia Sodeia VENTER / VAN DYK
Get: Petrus Johannes Jacobus Stefanus Lodewyk VENTER en
Anna Suzanna Catharina VENTER / VAN DYK
Jacobus Daniel VENTER en
Anna Sofeia Catharina VENTER / VENTER
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG DEN 19 DEN AUGUSTUS
639 Suzanna Catharina Pieternella geb 30 Juny 1866
Ouders: Jan Louis VENTER
Jacoba Aletta Frederika VENTER / DORFELING
Get: Petrus Jacobus Stefanus Johannes Lodewyk VENTER en
Anna Suzanna Catharina VENTER / VAN DYK
Anna Maria Elizabeth DORFELING
P 129 1866
640 Anna Sofeia geb 14 Juny 1866
Ouders: Johannis Hermanus KOESTER
Elsje Catharina KOESTER / VENTER
Get: Pieter Willem GEYSER en
Aletta Sofeia GEYSER / VENTER
Pieter Johannes Lodewyk VENTER en
Maria Aletta VENTER / DE BEER
Johannis Michiel VENTER en
Mareina Adriana VENTER / GEYSER
641 Dewald Lambertus geb 28 Juny 1866
Ouders: Johannis Hendrik HATTINK
Martha Catharina HATTINK / SNYMAN
Get: Pieter Johannis Lodewyk VENTER en
Maria Aletta VENTER / DE BEER
Johannis Frederik BOTHA en
Maria Aletta BOTHA / HATTINK
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG DEN 2 SEPT 1866 DOOR DE PREDIKANT N.J. VAN WARMELO
642 Cornelis Johannis Abraham geb 9 Maart 1866
Ouders: Johannis Arnoldus BREEDT
Gerharda Helena BREEDT / VAN WYK
Get: Schalk Willem VAN WYK en
Catharina Jacoba VAN WYK / MEYER
Pieter Johannis Leendert ROETS en
Anna Francina ROETS / ERASMUS
GEDOOPT DEN 9 DEN SEPTEMBER 1866
643 Anna Gertina Jacoba Aletta geb 16 July 1866
Ouders: Gert Johannis DUVENAGE
Suzanna Zacharya DUVENAGE / VAN WYK
Get: Teuns Johannis DUVENAGE
Barend Christoffel STEENKAMP en
Anna Maria STEENKAMP / VILJOEN
GEDOOPT DEN 30 SEPTEMBER 1866 TE ZOUTPANSBERG DOOR DEN PREDIKANT N.J. VAN WARMELO
P 130 1866
644 Johanna Magdalena geb 24 Mei 1866
Ouders: Theodorus Hermanus Gerhardus FOURIE
Johanna Magdalena FOURIE / ROETS
Get: Jan Christoffel ROETS en
Elsje ROETS / GROBLER
Maria Pieternella Margrieta OELOFSE / PELTZER weduwee
645 Cornelis Johannes Abraham geb 9 Augustus 1866
Ouders: Johannes Hendrik VAN WYK
Hendrina Cecilia Margarietha VAN WYK / DUVENAGE
Get: Andries Wilhelmus Arnoldus DUVENAGE en
Suzanna Catharina DUVENAGE / ROETS
Barend Christoffel DUVENAGE en
Elsje Magdalena DUVENAGE / DUVENAGE
GEDOOPT DEN 7 OCT 1866 TE ZOUTPANSBERG DOOR DEN PREDIKANT N.J. VAN WARMELO
646 Anna Johanna Wilhelmina
Ouders: Petrus Cornelis Jacobus WEEBINS ? (WEEBER)
Suzara Frederika WEEBINS / BOTHA
Get: John ....edi BAIRD en
Sofia Christina Catharina BAIRD / WEEBENS
John Henry DAILE en
Cornelia Elizabetha DAILE / V.D. WALT
647 Abraham Johannes geb 1 Aug 1866
Ouders: Abraham Johannis BOTHA
Margrieta Magdalena Elisabetha BOTHA / BOTMA
Get: Alewyn Petrus BOTHA en
Emmerencie Adriana BOTHA / GEYSER
Francois Nicolaas VAN DER BERG en
Maria Catharina Dorothea VAN DER BERG / BOTHA
P 131 1866
648 Cecilia Jacomina geb 5 Sept 1866
Ouders: Lourens Abrham JAKOBS
Josina Maria Magdalena JAKOBS / OELOFSE
Get: Johannes Augustinus BREEDT en
Dorothea Magdalena Carolina BREEDT / COMBRINK
Theodorus ERASMUS en
Emmerencie Margaretha ERASMUS / JAKOBS
649 Willem Christoffel geb 5 Sept 1866
Ouders: Schalk Willem VAN WYK
Catharina Jacoba VAN WYK / DE MEYER
Get: Alewyn Petrus BOTHA en
Emmerencie Adriana BOTHA / GEYSER
Jacobus Daniel VENTER en
Catharina Maria VENTER / DORFELING
650 Gert Diderik Johannes geb 10 July 1866
Ouders: Michiel Frederik DUVENAGE
Jacoba Johanna Catharina DUVENAGE / DUVENAGE
Get: Jacoba Johanna Catharina DUVENAGE / MINNAAR
Paul Stefanus POTGIETER en
Suzanna Magdalena POTGIETER / DUVENAGE
Teunis Hassie DUVENAGE en
Johanna Willemina DUVENAGE / SMIT
651 Johannes Lodewicus Petrus geb 1 July 1866
Moeder: Petronella Christina BOTHA – weduwee
Get: Francois Alewyn VAN DER BERG en
Catharina Aletta VAN DER BERG / BRONKHORST
Francois Nicolaas VAN DER BERG en
Martha Maria VAN DER BERG / BOTHA
David Johannes KRIEGER en
Petronella Christina KRIEGER/ BOTHA
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER / Boodskap 2.1. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:59 pm (PST)
P 132 1866
652 Maria Catharina geb 7 Aug 1866
Ouders: Hendrik Koenrad FOURIE
Anna Catharina Maria FOURIE / HELBERG
Get: Hans Johannes Zacharias HELBERG
Charles Elof GROBLER en
Elsje Catharina GROBLER / VENTER ?
653 Petrus Johannes geb 20 Sept 1866
Ouders: David Benjamin ERASMUS
Catharina Suzanna ERASMUS / ROETS
Get: Geertruida Aletta ERASMUS / SNYMAN
Christina Jacoba VAN WYK / HATTINK
Pieter Johannes Leendert ROETS en
Anna Clasina ROETS / ERASMUS
654 Hendrik Adriaan geb 25 April 1866
Ouders: Gerhardus Jacobus ROETS
Martha Catharina ROETS / DE WET
Get: Pieter Johannes Leendert ROETS en
Anna Francina ROETS / ERASMUS
Christiaan Arnoldus Carolus ROETS en
Anne Elizabetha ROETS / POTGIETER
655 Johannes Jacobus Hendrik geb 7 Sept 1863
Ouders: Georg Hendrik MARNITZ (Luthersche)
Maria Magdalena MARNITZ / FORTMAN
Get: Barend Jacobus VORSTER – doopvader
Alida Suzanna Margarietha VORSTER / BOTHA
P 133 1866
656 Maria Magdalena geb 5 Sept 1866
Ouders: Thomas FITZGERALD (Roomsch Cath)
Anna Cornelia FITZGERALD / FOURIE
Get: Petrus Paulus HUGO – doopvader
Magdalena Geertruida HUGO / RAATS of ROETS
Johan Martinus BOTHA en
Aletta Johanna BOTHA / FAASSEN
Petrus Cornelis Jacobus WEEBERS en
Suzara Frederika WEEBERS / BOTHA
657 Koenraad Fredericus geb 1850 15 Nov
Moeder: Aletta Elisabetha FICK / JAKOBS
658 Jan Jakob geb 19 Mei 1865
Ouders: Jan ALBASSINI (R.C.)
Gertina Maria ALBASSINE / J VAN RENSBURG
Get: Jan Jakob DE COSTA en
Cornelia Johanna DE COSTA / DU PLOOY
Lourens Martinus BRONKHORST en
Anna Suzanna BRONKHORST / GROBLER
GEDOOPT OP DEN PLAATS KALKFONTEIN VAN DEN HEER J.H. DUVENAGE DEN 28 Oct 1866
659 Gertruida Maria geb 1 Oct 1866
Ouders: Georg Frederik SNYMAN
Magdalena Willemina Catharina SNYMAN / BOTHA
Get: Hendrik SMIT en
Elsje Catharina SMIT / BOTHA
Tinus Johannes Jacobus DU PREEZ
P 134 1866
660 Michiel Christiaan geb 27 Sept 1866
Ouders: Abraham Petrus DUVENAGE
Johanna Catharina Elisabeth DUVENAGE / JAKOBS
Get: Willem Jacobus PELTZER en
Margrietha Alida PELTZER / JAKOBS
Teuns Hassie DUVENAGE en
Johanna Jacoba DUVENAGE
Raynold Alfonso VAN NISPEN en
Maria Margreitha VAN NISPEN / VAN EMMENIS
GEDOOPT TE MACHAPAANSPOORT DEN 4 NOV 1866
661 Jacobus Daniel geb 8 Sept 1866
Ouders: Roelof Cornelis Jacobus BEZUIDENHOUT
Johanna Jacomina Syzanna BEZUIDENHOUT / VENTER
Get: Pieter Johannis Lodewyk VENTER en
Maria Isabella VENTER / DE KLERK
Jacobus Daniel VENTER en
Catharina VENTER / DORFELING
Cornelis Petronella BEZUIDENHOUT
662 Johanna Petronella Elisabetha geb 12 Oct 1866
Ouders: Petrus Jacobus VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
Johanna Cornelia VAN DER WESTHUIZEN / BOTHA
Get: Andries Gerhardus BREEDT en
Catharina Aletta BREEDT / VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
Antje Helena Martha BOTHA
P 135 1866
663 Martha Maria geb 6 Oct 1865
Ouders: Petrus Jacobus VAN STADEN
Maria Johanna VAN STADEN / VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
Get: Petrus Jacobus VAN DER WESTHUISEN en
Johanna Cornelia VAN DER WESTHUIZEN / BOTHA
Martinus Petrus VAN STADEN en
Maria Jacomina Willemina VAN STADEN / VAN STADEN
GEDOOPT OP DEN PLAATS ZANDRIVIER VAN DEN HEER Abr. DUVENAGE SNR. 11 NOV 1866
664 Pieter Johannis Lodewyk geb 13 Sept 1866
Ouders: Stefanus Martinus VENTER
Hendrina Jacoba Maria VENTER / DUVENAGE
Get: Pieter Johannis Lodewyk VENTER en
Maria Aletta VENTER / DE BEER
Gideon Johannis SNYMAN en
Hendrina Cecilia Johanna SNYMAN / DUVENAGE
Suzanna Magdalena DUVENAGE
665 Frans Jakob Louis geb 2 Sept 1966
Ouders: Teunis Johannis BOTHA
Adriana Maria Jacoba BOTHA / DU PLESSIS
Get: Georg Frederik SNYMAN en
Magdalena Willemina Catharina SNYMAN / BOTHA
Berend Jacobus VORSTER en
Alida Margarietha Suzanna VORSTER / BOTHA
666 Adriana Maria Jacoba geb 24 July 1866
Ouders: Lourens Andries Stefanus DU PLESSIS
Pieternella Margarietha DU PLESSIS / BOTHA
Get: Teunis Johannis BOTHA
Adriana Maria Jacoba BOTHA / DU PLESSIS
Johannis Jacobus GEYSER en
Margarietha Magdalena GEYSER / BOTHA
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 3a. Re: Fauresmith Posted by: "Daniel Jacobs" [email protected] Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:05 pm (PST)
Beste Marie
Die oudste Kaapse NGK rekords (dope, huwelike en lidmaat-inskrywings) is gefotostateer tot ca 1840. Stelle van die fotostate is in die KAB (onder Verbatim Copy- reeks) en daar is ook 'n stel in die TAB. Daar mag ook een by GISA wees. Daar is twee bande (as ek reg onthou) met beskrywing Voortrekkerregisters wat van daardie dope ens. bevat. O.a. inligting oor bv. kinders wat ca 1848 deur Ds. WA Krige daar gedoop is. Van my Jacobse se dope kom in daardie registers voor. Fauresmith is aangelê op die plaas van een van my voorouers - Willem Daniel Jacobs (gebore ca 1804).
Groete
Daniel Jacobs www.gendata.co.za
Boodskap 4a. Re: Voortrekkergrafte moet plek maak vir nuwe wisselaar!! Posted by: "cgviljoen" [email protected] frost_clan Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:16 pm (PST)
Beste Elizabeth & Dennis
Baie interessant. Lyk asof alles baie mooi en ordentlik gedoen is. Ons het my tannie gister (24e) in die Sterkfonteinbegraafplaas begrawe, dus ‘n dag nadat hierdie herbegrafnisse plaasgevind het. Ek was onbewus van nog ou grafte in die KD omgewing, Dennis – ek sou baie graag wou weet presies waar hulle geleë was. Ek is nog op soek na 2 FROST grafte daar in KD– hulle is nie in die ou Burgershoop BP begrawe nie. Weet jy dalk waar in die Sterkfontein BP die herbegrafnisse plaasgevind het? Maw, is daar ‘n spesiale plek eenkant gesit daarvoor wat sal aandui waar die grafte vandaan gekom het, of is hulle maar in die volgorde begrawe, maw omtrent langs my tannie? Sal graag wil weet waar om later die grafstene te gaan soek om seker te maak daar is nie van my mense nie.
Groete Susan
Susan Viljoen Alberton, South Africa/Suid-Afrika Licensed Scrap-ther-a-P™ Memory Healing Practitioner Licence no 11/010/16
Boodskap 5a. Re: NAAIRS - MHG soek Posted by: "Willeen Olivier" [email protected] willempie5 Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:26 pm (PST)
Hallo medegeners,
Wil net my stuiwer hier in die armbeurs gooi ook. Ek het hierdie vakansie uitgevind dat NAAIRS nie altyd al die dokumente kry nie. Ek het die SK van oumagrootjie se tweede man gesoek, en omtrent 6 verskillende soektogte gedoen, o.a op haar name. Met lg het ek 'n string verwysings gekry, maar nie die een wat ek soek nie. Uiteindelik, na omtrent die derde spelvariasie van sy van, daarby uitgekom, en wil jy weet, daar staan haar naam, lewensgroot en reg gespel, op die verwysing. Seker gemaak my 'input' vir die soektog is reg, en dit was presies dieselfde. Weer gaan soek op daardie name, en weereens daardie spesifieke verwysing nie gekry nie. So NAAIRS sien om een of ander rede nie al die dokumente wat aan die soekverwysings voldoen nie.
Al wat ek nog nie getoets het nie, is of dit op 'n ander dag wel daardie dokument sal optel.
Willeen
Willeen Olivier Rooihuiskraal Kotzé, van Wyk, Olivier, Bosman, en al hulle voorgeslagte ...
Boodskap 6. (Koerant) Beeld 25 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:46 pm (PST)
BEZUIDENHOUT; Pieter Willem * 19/08/1950 + 18/01/2008, in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: NH Kerk, Ben Viljoenstraat, Pretoria-Noord, 28/01/2008, 10:00 # 11:00, Heatherdale Begraafplaas, Britsweg, Pretoria-Noord. (Foto met berig). (Beeld - 25/01/2008) Martin's Begrafnisdienste, Centurion, Pretoria, 012-660-2028.
DE GRAAF; Gerritjie * 10/03/2007. Begrafnis: NH Kerk, Meyerspark, 16/03/2007. Verassing. (Beeld - 25/01/2008)
DU TOIT; Niela * 06/01/1925 + 22/01/2008. Sal onthou word deur haar kinders Linda, David, Steve, Niel en Julien. Kontaknommer: 083-250-9827. (Beeld - 24, 25/01/2008)
GORLEI; Erindano Vincenzo * 1940 + 2008. Verassingsdiens: AVBOB Kapel, h v D F Malan- en Kerkstraat, Pretoria, 26/01/2008, 10:00. Hy sal onthou word deur Romano, Nicola, Remo en Rozanne. (Beeld - 25/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria, 012-327-3788.
MOSTERT; Theudorus Hendrik, in lewe van Drie Riviere, Vereeniging, Gauteng provinsie. Roudiens: AGS Kerk, Drie Riviere, 25/01/2008, 11:00. Verassing. (Beeld - 25/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Vereeniging, 016-421-4054.
OOSTHUIZEN; M J S (Mari) * 22/04/1916 + 23/01/2008. Sy sal onthou word deur haar kinders, kleinkinders en agterkleinkinders. (Beeld - 25/01/2008)
WOODLAND; Zane. Kontak Loftie by 011-763-1129 oor aanneming. (Beeld - 24, 25/01/2008)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Datum: Saturday, January 26, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1. Doopregister : Graaff-Reinet From: obie oberholster
2. b1c1 Nicolaas VAN RENSBURG (*1731) & b6 Albertha VAN ROOIJEN (*1728) From: MontXsuZ-point-ca
3a. a1-b1-c1-d6-e3-f4 Johan Jacob Jansen Van Rensbürg x Maria Magdale From: MontXsuZ-point-ca
3b. Re: [SA-Gen] a1-b1-c1-d6-e3-f4 Johan Jacob Jansen Van Rensbürg x From: David Jamieson
3c. Re: [SA-Gen] a1-b1-c1-d6-e3-f4 Johan Jacob Jansen Van Rensbürg x From: David Jamieson
4. Re: Standerton Konsentrasiekamp Sterfgevalle - Die Drie ' Burger ' S From: David Jamieson
5. Re : Louisa Jakoba J. van Rensburg - Geb : 1843 Nokkersdam?, Bloemfo From: David Jamieson
6a. ANGLO-BOEREOORLOG CD From: Sylvester Rascher
6b. Re: ANGLO-BOEREOORLOG CD From: Hetta Scholtz
7.1. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
7.2. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
8. URBANUS / URBASCH From: Pat
9a. Re: Voortrekkergrafte moet plek maak vir nuwe wisselaar!! From: Hendrik Louw AbsaMail
9b. Voortrekkergrafte moet plek maak vir nuwe wisselaar!! From: Hendrik Louw AbsaMail
10a. Re: Fauresmith From: Marlene (Meerkat) Spies
11a. Re: Moolenbeek familie From: Rob Moolenbeek
12. Brisbane telefoonnavraag: gelukkige verloop From: Faan Naude, Rietfontein, PRETORIA
13. 150 jaar in Suid-Afrika From: Jan van Rooy
14. [Koerant] The Mercury Vrydag 25 Januarie 2008. From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
15. [Koerant] The Mercury 25 Jan.2008 CREDITORS..... From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
16. [Koerant] KWANA in the City 25 Januarie 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
17. Re : [SA-Gen] 150 jaar in Suid-Afrika - 300 jaar in Suid-Afrika From: MontXsuZ- point-ca
18. (Koerant) Beeld 26 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
19. Re : [SA-Gen] Re : Louisa Jakoba J. van Rensburg - Geb : 1843 Nokker From: MontXsuZ-point-ca
20. Re : [SA-Gen] ANGLO-BOEREOORLOG CD From: MontXsuZ-point-ca Boodskap 1. Doopregister : Graaff-Reinet Posted by: "obie oberholster" [email protected] obieoberholster Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:28 am (PST)
Middag almal,
Het iemand dalk die volledige doop register van NGK Graaff-Reinet???
Ek sal dit hoog op prys stel.
Groetnis
Obie
Boodskap 2. b1c1 Nicolaas VAN RENSBURG (*1731) & b6 Albertha VAN ROOIJEN (*1728) Posted by: "MontXsuZ-point-ca" [email protected] montxsuz Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:48 am (PST)
Naand almal, veral VAN RENSBURG & VAN ROOIJEN navorsers
Ek het nou die handtekeninge van al my Janse van Rensburg voorsate tot by Claas Jansz - behalwe vir die derde geslag: a1-b1-c1 Nicolaas JANSE VAN RENSBURG (*1731) x 1753 b6 Albertha VAN ROOIJEN. Ek kry baie graag sy handtekening in die hande, indien dit wel bestaan. Hierdie Nicolaas is ook een van twee wie se sterfjaar ek nie ken nie. Ek wonder of iemand dalk daarmee kan help. Sy vrou s'n is ook onbekend.
Ek het wel die egpaar se testament: MOOC 7-1-26 ref 41 van 4 Sep 1772, en die huur- kontrak CJ 2902 ref 79 (1768-1776). Nie een is onderteken deur Nicolaas of Alberta nie nie. Geen inventarisse bestaan wat ek kon vind nie.
Maggies, hy moes iets erens geteken het! Sy vader Johannes kon sy naam teken, en ten minste 2 van sy seuns was geletterd. Was Nicolaas die enigste geslag wie ongeletterd was?
Die testament was "filed" op 25 Aug 1779, so een van die egpaar was waarskynlik onlangs oorlede.
Groete
------Christo van Rensburg Vancouver, BC, Canada En belle Colombie Britannique ------Janse van Rensburg X Cronje; Barnard X Schoeman Herselman X Kriel; Wright X Breytenbach (1876 Bethulie; 1883 Philippolis; 1879 Kareedouw?; 1889 Wepener) http://www.montxsuz.ca/familie/ ------
Boodskap 3a. a1-b1-c1-d6-e3-f4 Johan Jacob Jansen Van Rensbürg x Maria Magdale Posted by: "MontXsuZ-point-ca" [email protected] montxsuz Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:01 am (PST)
Goeie more Van Rensburg (en dalk Zaayman) navorsers
Hier is nog een wie my 'n kopseer gee.
a1-b1-c1-d6-e3-f4 Johan Jacob Jansen Van Rensbürg (soos hy sy naam geteken het) *1824 Swellendam distrik en gedoop in Swellendam.
(Het iemand dalk toegang tot die doopsregister? Ek vind graag uit watter plaas (indien enige) aangegee word by die doop? Heel waarskynlik Riversdale area.)
Sy vrou was Maria Magdalena Zaaiman (*1823/25 + Boshof, Vrystaat 9 Aug 1898).
Die egpaar het op die plaas Rietpan, Boshof, gewoon sedert ten minste 1892, tot ten minste ten tye van die vrou se dood. Johan Jacob was nog lewendig op 24 April 1899, toe hy sy vrou se distribusie rekening onderteken het. Dit was die laaste rekord wat ek kon vind. Die ABO het 6 maande later uitgebreek. Hy was toe omtrent 75.
Wat het van Johan Jacob geword? Wanneer? Ek het die Konsentrasiekamp rekords deurgewerk (behalwe vir Kroonstad, wat "missing" is), en ek kon hom nie vind nie. Ek het wel van sy kinders in die rekords gevind (Kimberley & Oranje Rivier). Geen s/k in die OVS argief nie.
Het iemand dalk 'n idee?
Dankie en groete Christo
------Christo van Rensburg Vancouver, BC, Canada En belle Colombie Britannique ------Janse van Rensburg X Cronje; Barnard X Schoeman Herselman X Kriel; Wright X Breytenbach (1876 Bethulie; 1883 Philippolis; 1879 Kareedouw?; 1889 Wepener) http://www.montxsuz.ca/familie/ ------
Boodskap 3b. Re: [SA-Gen] a1-b1-c1-d6-e3-f4 Johan Jacob Jansen Van Rensbürg x Posted by: "David Jamieson" [email protected] davidkjamieson Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:42 am (PST)
Hello Christo,
Weet jy miskien waar ek die rekords vir die Standerton Konsentrasiekamp inwoners mag vind. Drie van my Burger familie lede is daar oorlede.
Baie dankie vir enige hulp hiermee.
Groete vanuit 'n koue Skotland.
David Jamieson Montrose
Boodskap 3c. Re: [SA-Gen] a1-b1-c1-d6-e3-f4 Johan Jacob Jansen Van Rensbürg x Posted by: "David Jamieson" [email protected] davidkjamieson Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:07 am (PST)
Goeiemiddag Barend,
Baie dankie vir die inligting wat jy aan my gestuur het.
Volgen's my rekord's en die inligting wat my oorlede ouma vir my vertel het, het die familie drie seun's op die ouderdom van 7, 14 en 21 jaar weens die maesels epidemie by die Standerton Konsentrasiekamp verloor.
Ons het uitgevind dat die oudste seun se naam was :
Schalk Willem Benjamin Burger
en die ander twee is seker onder die name wat jy gegee het.
Miskien kan Sarel Burger my verder help met hulle voorname.
Nogmal's baie dankie vir hierdie inligting - ek het al baie lank daarvoor gesoek en ek en ander is bevooreg om so baie lede op ons lys te he wie altyd so behulpsaam is om ons nuwelinge te help.
Groete uit 'n koue Skotland.
David Jamieson Montrose
Boodskap 4. Re: Standerton Konsentrasiekamp Sterfgevalle - Die Drie ' Burger ' S Posted by: "David Jamieson" [email protected] davidkjamieson Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:18 am (PST)
Goeiemiddag Sarel,
Barend het onlangs inligting gestuur oor vier Burger familie sterfgevalle in die bo- genoemde kamp sekerlik gedurend 1901. Ons het al reeds die oudste seun se naam bevestig en kan jy miskien 'n lydraad gee oor die ander seun's se name - dws :
F.R, H.H en J.H.
Ek wil nie raai nie maar mag hulle miskien - Frans Rynhard or Johannes Herzog wees ?
Enige verdere kommentaar sal waardeur word.
Groete uit 'n koue Montrose en hoop julle kry nie te warm in pragtige Stellenbosch nie.
David
Boodskap 5. Re : Louisa Jakoba J. van Rensburg - Geb : 1843 Nokkersdam?, Bloemfo Posted by: "David Jamieson" [email protected] davidkjamieson Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:43 am (PST)
Hello Christo en ander Janse van Rensburg kenners,
Het jy miskien enige verdere inligting oor my bo-genoemde groot ouma en waar sy miskien inpas. Hy pa of broer mag : Louis Jacobus Janse van Rensburg / of van Rensburg gewees het.
Baie dankie vir enige verdere advies hieroor.
Groete uit 'n koue Skotland.
David van Montrose
______
Michiel Christiaan Horn Born : 1843 Married : Louisa-Jacoba Janse van Rensburg on 01-06-1863 in Bloemfontein, OFS Died : 17-08-1870 on the Farm ' Poortjie ' Harrismith District, Orange Free State
Parents : Michiel Christiaan Horn / Martha Magdalena ( nee Spies ) 4-05-1834 at Swellendam
Children :
Anna Sophia Born : 1864 Martha Magdalena : 1866 Michiel Christiaan Horn : 1869 -06-13 Spitskop, Bloemfontein, OFS ( This is my Grandfather )
Parents : Michiel Christiaan Horn - Born : 9-08-1812 Christened : 29-10-1812 Died : 15-04-1863 on the farm ' Weerskraak ' Colesburg District, CP
Married : Martha Magdalena ( nee Spies ) Christened : 4-11-1810 Swellendam
Married : 4-05-1834 at Swellendam, CP
Children :
Maria Elizabeth Christina - Born : 17-02-1835 Chr. 22-03-1835 at Swellendam Johannes Willem : 24-05-1836 Chr. 02-01-1837 " Barend Christophel : 27-09-1837 . 04-02-1838 " ______
Ref : ( VAB MHG Leer 01 H94 1870 )
Michiel Christiaan Horn ( Michael Christian Horne )
Birth : 13 - 06 - 1869 ' Spitskop ', Bethlehem Christened : 17 - 07 - 1869 Bethlehem
Parents : Michiel Christiaan Horn - Born : 1843 from Mocklesdam ?, Bloemfontein Loiusa Jacoba ( nee Janse van Rensburg Born : 1843 Nokkersdam ? , Bloemfontein " Married : 1 June 1863 at Bloemfontein ( Both 20 years old )
Witnesses : Louis Jacobus Rensburg / Anna Sophia Fourie J.W.Hajenius ? / C.H.Niehaus
Died : At sea off Durban on 27-12-1916 after catching Yellow Water fever while on service in German East Africa ( Tanganyika ) He was buried at sea from HM Hospital Ship ' Glascon '
Married : Wilhelmina Susanna Jacoba ( nee Burger - Born 24 May 1884 on the Farm ' Blombosfontein ' Riversdale District, CP Died : Cape Town 5 June 1984 )
They married at Standerton on 30 Sept. 1902
Children : Maria Magdalena Louisa Jacoba Wilhelmina Susanna Anna Sophia Jacoba Elizabeth Christina Magdalena Florendina Johanna
Boodskap 6a. ANGLO-BOEREOORLOG CD Posted by: "Sylvester Rascher" [email protected] sylvesterrascher Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:02 am (PST)
Beste lysvriende
Ek het erens gelees dat daar CD's met die opnamebesonderhede van vrouens in die ABO Konsentrasiekampe te koop is. Kan iemand my dalk se waar ek dit kan aanskaf.
Rassie
Boodskap 6b. Re: ANGLO-BOEREOORLOG CD Posted by: "Hetta Scholtz" [email protected] hester_scholtz Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:37 pm (PST)
Rassie
Ek antwoord jou van die lys af met die hele storie.
Dis blykbaar oppad. Ek haal aan: "Ek het pas met Celeste Reynolds, wat die projek met ondersteuning van die FAK onderneem het, gepraat. Die navorsing is o.a. onderneem as deel van die herdenking van die ABO en het hoofsaaklik gegaan oor die konsentrasiekamp-sterftes. Dit is voltooi en die verhandeling vir haar Meestersgraad is ingedien vir eksaminering. Dit behoort teen middel November afgehandel te wees Die gedagte was dat die inligting beskikbaar moet wees vir die publiek en na afhandeling sal 'n besluit geneem word oor die wyse waarop dit gedoen sal word."
en: "Dankie vir die e-pos. Ons is in die proses en ek neem aan dit sal iewers volgende jaar (2008) beskikbaar wees.
Ek sal laat weet sodra die finale produk beskikbaar is. Groete
Celeste Reynolds Argivaris: Insitusionele Argief en Museum Archivist: Institutional Archives and Museum Interne Bussie 188/ Internal Box 188 Privaatsak/Private Bag X6001 Noordwes-Universiteit/North-West University Potchefstroom, South Africa 2520 Tel: +27 18 299-1250 Faks/ Fax : +27 18 299-4948 E-pos/ E-mail : [email protected] Internet: http://www.nwu.ac.za/hsc/ArchMuseum/index_a.html "
Groete Hetta Scholtz
Boodskap 7.1. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:09 am (PST)
P 136 1866
GEDOOPT OP DEN PLAATS WELTEVREDEN VAN DEN HEER P DU PREEZ 18 NOV 1866
667 Dewald Lambertus geb 18 Oct 1866
Ouders: Johannis Frederik BOTHA
Maria Aletta BOTHA / HATTINK
Get: Johannis Hendrik HATTINK en
Martha Catharina HATTINK / SNYMAN
Hermanus Johannes Wilhelmus GROBLER en
Willemina Gertruida Elisabeth GROBLER / HATTINK
668 Martinus Andries Wilhelmus geb 5 Oct 1866
Ouders: Philippus Roedolf PRINSO
Johanna Margarietha PRINSLO / DE BEER
Get: Mieta Maria VAN BOS
Willem Eli VAN NIEKERK en
Pieternella Aletta VAN NIEKERK / PRINSLO
669 Bertha Salome geb 27 April 1864
Ouders: Martinus EYSSELL
Charlotta Augusta EYSSELL / RUSSELL
Get: Salomon Johannis MARAIS en
Antoinette Martina Willemina Gysbertha EYSSELL
Barend Jan EYSSELL
670 Christina Charlotta Augusta geb 28 April 1866
Ouders: Martinus EYSSELL
Charlotta Augusta EYSSELL / RUSSELL
Get: Christiaan Barend JANSON
Johanna Willemina VAN BOESCHOTEN
Marius Martinus EYSSELL
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG DEN 2 DEC 1866 DOOR DEN PREDIKANT N.J. VAN WARMELO
P 137 1866
671 Petrus Cornelis geb 24 Sept 1866
Ouders: Pieter GROBLER
Johanna Adriana GROBLER / JAKOBS
Get: David Johannis Stefanus HERBST en
Hester Martha HERBST / JANSE VAN RENSBURG
672 Christoffel Johannis Jakobus geb 22 Juny 1866
Ouders: David Benjamin SNYMAN
Aletta Elisabetha SNYMAN / DUVENAGE
Get: Berend Christoffel STEENKAMP en
Anna Willemina STEENKAMP / VILJOEN
Anna Maria Jacomina SNYMAN / DU PLESSIS
Charles Johannis SMIT
Anna Maria SMIT / MARAIS
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG DEN 25 DEN DECEMBER TE ZOUTPANSBERG
673 Adriaan Charles geb 7 Nov 1866
Ouders: Jakob VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
Heila Magdalena VD WESTHUIZEN / DE BEER
Get: Hendrik Leendeert Lambert DU PLOOY en
Maria Dorothea Elisabetha DU PLOOY / BOTHA
Frederik Johannis BOTHA en
Aletta Catharina BOTHA / DE LANGE
674 Gert Johannis geb 3 Nov 1866
Ouders: Charles Elof GROBLER
Elsje Maria GROBLER / KOETSER
Get: Johannis Augustinus BREEDT en
Dorothea Magdalena Carolina BREEDT / COMBRINK
Pieter Willem KOETSER
P 138 1866
675 Jacoba Pieternella geb 13 December 1865
Ouders: Johannis Hendrik DU PLOOY
Helena Elisabet DU PLOOY / VAN DER BERG
Get: Jacobus Petrus VAN DER BERG en
Anna Maria VAN DER BERG
Michiel Johannis HATTINK en
Helena Sofeia VAN DER BERG
676 Martha Magdalena geb 15 Mei 1866
Ouders: Johannes Willem HORN
Hester Petronella HORN / BOTHA
Get: Johannes Petrus DE KLOPPER en
Maria Jacoba DE KLOPPER / MINNAAR
Johan Koenraad MARNEWICK en
Johanna Christina MARNEWICK / MARNITZ ?
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG DEN 6 DEN JAN 1867 DOOR DEN PREDEKANT N.J. VAN WARMELO
P 139 1867
677 Cornelia Sofeia geb 14 Dec 1866
Ouders: David Schalk VAN DYK
Pieternella Johanna VAN DYK / VENTER
Get: Jacobus Daniel VENTER en
Cornelia Sofeia VENTER / VAN DYK
Petrus Jacobus Stefanus Johannes Lodewyk VENTER en
Anna Suzanna Catharina VENTER / VAN DYK
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 7.2. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:12 am (PST)
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG DEN 27 JANUARY 1867
678 Hendrik Christoffel geb 13 January 1867
Ouders: Hendrik Christoffel VAN RENSEBURG
Cornelia VAN RENSEBURG / VISSER
Get: Johannes Lodewyk VAN RENSEBURG
Jan Johannis VAN DER MERWE
Johannes Petrus DE KLOPPER en
Maria Jacoba DE KLOPPER / MINNAAR
679 Paul Stefanus geb 30 December 1866
Ouders: Jan Johannis BOTHA
Gertruida Maria Margarietha BOTHA / BRONKHORST
Get: Paul Stefanus BOTHA en
Johanna Maria Jacoba BOTHA / VAN DYK
Martinus Johannis WOLHUTER en
Hester Johanna Cornelia WOLHUTER / POTGIETER
680 Martinus Nicolaas geb 7 January 1867
Ouders: Nicolaas Teodorus ? OELOFSE
Abrama Johanna Jeanetta Willemina OELOFSE / PELTZER
Get: Martinus Nicolaas Theodorus OELOFSE en
Elsje Magdalena Catharina OELOFSE / ROETS
Willem Jacobus PELTZER en
Margaretha Alida PELTZER / JAKOBS
GEDOOPT TE MACHAPAANSPOORT DEN 3 DEN FEBRUARY 1867
P 140 1867
681 Martha Johanna Willemina Adriana geb 9 Dec 1866
Ouders: Johannis Cornelis BEZUIDENHOUT
Elisabetha Magdalena BEZUIDENHOUT / VENTER
Get: Christoffel Jacobus BEZUIDENHOUT en
Johanna Adriana BEZUIDENHOUT / VENTER
Pieter Christiaan BEZUIDENHOUT en
Martha Maria Willemina Adriana BEZUIDENHOUT / JANSEN
682 Johanna Maria geb 20 Nov 1866
Ouders: Johannis Jacobus SMIT
Johanna Maria SMIT / BEZUIDENHOUT
Get: Johannis Jurie Francois BEZUIDENHOUT en
Maria Suzanna BEZUIDENHOUT / VAN VOREN
Rudolf Johannes OLTZHUIZEN en
Gertruida Elisebeth OLTZHUIZEN / BEZUIDENHOUT
(Invoegsel:) Joh. Jac. Petr. BEZUIDENHOUT en
...... Suzanna OOSTHUIZEN
Martha Chris. OOSTHUIZEN
Mart. Abr...... SMIT ?
683 Petrus Casparus Stefanus geb 4 Dec 1866
Ouders: Johannis Jacobus SNYDER
Magdalena Geertruida SNYDER / BEZUIDENHOUT
Get: Petrus Casparus Stefanus SNYDER en
Jacoba Magdalena SNYDER / KORTZE
Wynand Karel BEZUIDENHOUT en
Anna Catharina Susara BEZUIDENHOUT / BOOYSEN
684 Martinus Alexander geb 20 Oct 1866
Ouders: Martinus Johannis VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
Jeanetta maria VAN DER WESTHUIZEN / ROBINSON (N.L.)
Get: Frederik Jacobus BOTHA en
Aletta Catharina BOTHA / DE LANGE – doopmoeder
Petrus Jacobus VAN STADEN en
Maria Johanna VAN STADEN / VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
P 141 1867
GEDOOPT DEN 2 DEN APRIL 1867
685 Johannis Christoffel geb 26 Febr 1867
Ouders: Frederik Jacobus BOTHA
Aletta Catharina BOTHA / DE LANGE
Get: Johannis Christoffel BOTHA en
Maria Catharina Carolina Magdalena BOTHA / NEL
Jan Daniel BOTHA en
Hendrina BOTHA / GROBLER
686 Maria Johanna geb 13 Febr 1867
Ouders: Mattheus Jakobus VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
Johanna Maria VAN DER WESTHUIZEN / DE LANGE
Get: Petrus Jacobus VAN STADEN en
Maria Johanna VAN STADEN / VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
Johannis Cornelis BEZUIDENHOUT en
Elisabetha Magdalena BEZUIDENHOUT / VENTER ?
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG 28 APRIL 1867
689 Wilhelmina Johanna geb 1 April 1867
Ouders: Hans Jurie HUMAN
Wilhelmina Johanna HUMAN / MARé
Get: Jacobus HUMAN
Catharina HUMAN / SCHEEPERS
688 Petrus Johannis geb 26 Dec 1866
Ouders: Jan Petrus JAKOBS
Johanna Maria Jacoba JAKOBS / ELOF
Get: Petrus Johannis ELOF
David Hermanus Stefanus JAKOBS
P 142 1867
689 Nicolaas Johannis geb 20 Feb 1867
Ouders: Nicolaas Johannis GROBLER
Martha Magdalena Cornelia GROBLER / FOURIE
Get: Johannis Arnoldus GROBLER en
Gertruida Suzanna GROBLER / FOURIE
Jan Christoffel ROETS
Elsje ROETS / GROBLER
Hendrik Jacobus VENTER en
Louisa Suzanna VENTER / FOURIE
690 Louisa Suzanna geb 17 Dec 1866
Ouders: Hendrik Jacobus VENTER en
Louisa Suzanna VENTER / FOURIE
Get: Louis Johannis LA GRANGE en
Maria Christina LA GRANGE / FOURIE
Nicolaas Johannis GROBLER
Martha Magdalena Cornelia GROBLER / FOURIE
691 Jacoba Johanna geb 1 Dec 1866
Ouders: James Edward MOULDER
Jacoba Johanna Willemina MOULDER / MAREé
Get: Carolina Sofeia Elisabeth Johanna FORESTER
Christina Johanna FORESTER
Salomon Johannis MARAIS
A.M.W.G. MARAIS / EYSSELL
692 Teunis Hassie geb 1 Jan 1867
Ouders: Jan Georg DUVENAGE
Anna Jacomina DUVENAGE / BOTHA
Get: Teunis Hassie DUVENAGE
Barend Christoffel DUVENAGE
Elsje Magdalena DUVENAGE / DUVENAGE
Hermanus Johannes Petrus BOTHA
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 8. URBANUS / URBASCH Posted by: "Pat" [email protected] pajfil Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:04 am (PST)
Meer as 'n jaar terug het Peet en Mari hulp aan my geleen met hierdie familielede. Intussen tyd het ek die familie bybel gekry waarin baie van die inligting verskyn het. Dit lyk my een van die datums moet reggestel word: Carl Rudolf URBANUS het op 11 June 1887 getrou (Familie Bybel)en nie Januarie nie (Suid-Afrikaanse Geslagregister volume 13 bladsy 482). Carl was 'n kaptein in die Britse leer toe die Boere Kimberley omring het. Verder, sy naam was eintlik URBASCH of soms URBACH geskryf, maar toe die Britse verdag dat hy miskien 'n spioen is(om rede die Duitse naam) het hy sy naam verander. Hy was eintlik van Wallis af alhoewel sy pa in Duitsland gebore is. Dus, is Kathleen, sy dogter, as URBANUS geregistreer maar haar naam verskyn as URBASCH in die familie bybel.
As enigeen meer inligting oor haar famile benodig, sal ek dit terwillig beskikbaar maak.
Met dankbaarheid vir al die hulpsaamheid van 'n wonderlike SAG familie!
Pat Finlay
URBASCK FOURIE SAUNDERS OLIVIER de JONGH van ARKEL
Boodskap 9a. Re: Voortrekkergrafte moet plek maak vir nuwe wisselaar!! Posted by: "Hendrik Louw AbsaMail" [email protected] loogkolk Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:35 am (PST)
Dennis en ander belangstellendes
Kobus Snyman het die besonderhede van al die grafte vir ons gekry, ek sal dit oor die naweek in tik sodat almal die gegewens op die grafstene ook kan kry
Groete
Hendrik LOUW
Boodskap 9b. Voortrekkergrafte moet plek maak vir nuwe wisselaar!! Posted by: "Hendrik Louw AbsaMail" [email protected] loogkolk Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:02 am (PST)
Hier is die grafsteen besonderhede
No Naam Van Eggenoot (te) Geb. Sterf Ouderdom Ouderdom v graf 1. Checilah Johanna J SNIJMAN geen 21.03.1866 19.12.1897 31 110 2. Susara Jacoba VAN STADEN geb HATTING geen 29.09.1836 26.08.1917 81 90 3. Frederik Christoffel SNYMAN geen 04.01.1864 11.04.1918 54 89 4. Hermanus Johannes SNYMAN geen 04.05.1904 24.05.1919 15 88 5. Daniel C.S. DU TOIT geen 22.06.1843 04.11.1921 78 86 6. Christoffel G. SNYMAN geen 07.07.1830 07.02.1925 95 82 7. Jacobus Herculus NEL geen 23.10.1850 02.02.1927 77 80 8. Catharina F.S. SNYMAN geb ELOFF geen 10.08.1832 06.08.1929 97 78 9. Martha Catharina HATTING geb SNYMAN J.H.HATTING 12.06.1849 06.09.1934 85 73 10. Johannes Francois DU TOIT geen 09.12.1867 03.04.1935 68 72 11. Johannes Hendrik HATTING geen 21.06.1846 06.12.1936 90 71 12. Susara Carolina SNYMAN geen 17.06.1874 18.08.1951 77 56 13. Johanna M.C. VAN STADEN ged. MULDER geen 19.01.1890 16.06.1953 63 54 14. Jacoba W KOK geen 18.02.1871 11.07.1955 84 52 15.Christoffel G SNYMAN geen 15.04.1874 23.04.1959 85 48 16. Cornelia M.M.F. DU TOIT geb SNYMAN geen 18.09.1877 12.07.1959 82 48 17. Johannes Jurgens VAN STADEN geen 10.10.1880 29.07.1967 87 40 18. Anna Catharina SPEEDY geb DU TOIT geen 30.09.1897 23.02.1987 90 20 10. Jack FALCONER geen 1919 1988 69 19 soos gedokumenteer deur MARTIN'S, Randburg
Hendrik LOUW 082 722 6500
Boodskap 10a. Re: Fauresmith Posted by: "Marlene (Meerkat) Spies" [email protected] meerkat2s Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:02 am (PST)
Hallo uit Ontario, Kanada, Marie
Ek het kontak met ds. Du Toit Smuts, wat jare lank die predikant op Fauresmith was. (Hy en sy vrou, Ilse, is my "pasella ouers" en ek is baie lief vir hulle.) Ek sal hulle probeer kontak en vra; goeie kans dat hy sekere van die geskiedenis sal hê!
Sover my kennis strek, was kerkdienste gehou onder 'n reuse ou peperboom, bekend as die Kerkboom, voordat die gebou ingewy is (of enige soort gebou).Toe ek en my man later 'n kafee daar gehad het, was die peperboom net buite die gebou.
Intussen het ek gaan Google en op Wikipedia die volgende lys gekry oor die eerste 100 gemeentes in Suid-Afrika: http://af.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lys_van_eerste_100_NG_gemeentes_in_Suid-Afrika
Groete! Marlene / Meerkat ~~~~ Genealogie: ZIEHL {b6c1d2} x NORTJE OF NORTIER {b3c5d6e6f1g2h9}, VAN DER WALT {b4c1d3e4f?g?h1i2}; KRUGER {b7c4d6e9}; SCOTT {b3c7}; SENEKAL {b1c1d2e2f3g5h2}; STRYDOM {b4c3d2e5f4g1h10}, KROG {b8c1d2}
Boodskap 11a. Re: Moolenbeek familie Posted by: "Rob Moolenbeek" [email protected] rmoolenbeek Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:04 pm (PST)
If you have his E-mail address than I can send him a copy of the latest Moolenbeek Stamboom
Thanks
Rob
Boodskap 12. Brisbane telefoonnavraag: gelukkige verloop Posted by: "Faan Naude, Rietfontein, PRETORIA" [email protected] Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:51 pm (PST)
Vriende
Op 14 Januarie het ek gevra of daar een van die lyslede was wat vir my 'n telefoonnommer in die telefoongids in Brisbane kon opkyk. Wel, onder andere het Mark Slabbert, een van ons lede wat in Brisbane woon, aangebied om te help en 'n reeks boodskappe tussen my en hom het gevolg. Oor 'n tydperk van omtrent 'n week het ons die stukke van die legkaart aanmekaar gesit en het Mark Slabbert my een neef, wat al sedert ongeveer 1967 in Brisbane woon, opgespoor.
Vanoggend het ek die eerste maal telefonies met my neef, sy vrou en Mark gepraat. Mark en sy vrou was by my neef-hulle aan huis waar Mark hulle gehelp het om hul Internetkoppeling en e-posverbindinge op te stel.
Vir my is dit 'n wonderlike deurbraak aangesien ek al omtrent vier jaar gelede die eerste maal probeer het om met die neef kontak te maak. Baie dankie weer eens Mark, en baie dankie aan SA Genealogie-lys. Niemand sal weet wat dit vir my werd is nie. Ek is baie, baie dankbaar.
Beste wense aan almal.
Groete
Faan Naudé NAUDÉ-navorser Rietfontein, PRETORIA
Boodskap 13. 150 jaar in Suid-Afrika Posted by: "Jan van Rooy" [email protected] jlvanrooy Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:51 pm (PST)
Geagte Lyslede
Die stamouers van die Van Rooys en hulle twee jongste kinders het vandag 150 jaar gelede voet aan wal gesit in Port Elizabeth.
Verdere besonderhede is op www.vanrooy.org.za
Groete Jan van Rooy
Boodskap 14. [Koerant] The Mercury Vrydag 25 Januarie 2008. Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:38 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice HALL.
GEBOORTES:- MOWAT nee LYALL Mark & Catherine 'n seun Oliver David *23/01/2008 in Westville Hospitaal.
VERLOWING:- BOUWER ~ CORTNEY Rod & Bev se dogter Candice aan Bryan ,seun van Reg & Cynthia.
PILLEY Errol & Lesley se ouer dogter Cindy aan Clinton, seun van Derick & Letitia WITTSTOCK.
Andy KUNZ en Holly-Louise SMIT is verloof.
HERDENKING:- DE KONING Peter & Poppie (Joey) 25 Jan . 50 jaar gelede. Ouers van Natalie, Maurice, Gary , Terry, Sonia en Jean.
DOOD:- BENSON Evelyn Loretha (Evie) +19/01/2008 .Ma van Edwina en Ronnie, Pauline & Anton, en Paul. Ouma van Candice, Wesley en Andre .Oumagroot van Amber.
BRENT Pat + 21/01/2008 in Gauteng.(Pat's Record Bar -West Walk 1967 --- 1970.)Vriendin van John KONTTENBELT (Dr John).
CARDINAL Cyril Bernard . Nou saam met sy tweeling broer Tim . Ingesit deur Fay, Brian, Cindy en Pam en families.
FYVIE Dr Hugh + 21/01/2008 x Margie. Pa van Barbara en Edward.
GERRALD Trevor .Simpatie aan Ann en Familie.
GROEP Mary Harriett van Wentworth. Begrafnis 26/01/2008 by Grace Tabernackle Wentworth om 10.30vm. Verassing privaat. Ingesit deur ISIPINGO Inc PAM'S.
KAISER Elfriede. Ma van Verita en Martin , Horst en Ronelle, Lynell en Hugo. Ouma en oumagroot. Begrafnis by Harburg Lutherse Kerk 27/01/2008 om 11.30. Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH PMB 0333426116.
LABUSCHAGNE Serdinandus (Lappies) 1916 ----2008 Pa ,oupa en oupagroot van die JEHRING Familie.
LABUSCHAGNE Ferdinandus (Lappies) x Dorothia. Pa van + Ferrie, Charlotte, Maria en Willem, skoonpa van Yvonne, Neville, Doug en Judy .Oupa en oupagroot. Begrafnis by NG Kerk Montclair 28/01/2008 om 10 vm. Ingesit deur AVBOB. 031 2061861.
MALAN Peter . Gebede met Gail en familie van Peter & Gaynor.
MARAIS Juliet Marion + 23/01/2008. Ma ,ouma en oumagroot. Ingesit deur SHANLEY'S 0312057644.
NEL Denver 19/08/1957 ----23/01/2008 . Simpatie aan vrou, kinders en sy Ma. van DORMAC . Begrafnis by Interfellowship Church Wentworth 26/01/2008. om 1300nm. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
PATTERSON Peggie Muriel + 24/01/2008. Vriendin van Ray en Shirley.
PIEK Jack 09/01/1930 -----23/01/2008 x Shirley. Pa van Sandra en Diane. Stiefpa van Tess en John. Oupa van Sarah-Jane, Mark, Christopher, Jessica, Lucy , Emma en Nicolas. Memorial by Manning Rd Methodiste Kerk op 28/01/2008 om 2.30nm. Verassing privaat. Ingesit deur SHANLEY'S 0312057644.
STAINBANK Michael John (Mickey) x Naomi. Pa van Mario, Michelle, Micha en Mitzy, Samantha. Seun van + Martha Mathews en Maurice BROOKS. Broer en oom. Begrafnis 26/01/2008 by Blessed Liberate Newlands West om 10 vm. Daarna na Dudley Begraafplaas. Ingesit deur ISIPINGO Inc PAM'S.
STACEY Isabella (Voorheen WOOLDRIDGE ) 01/09/1929------24/01/2008 Vrou ,ma,ouma en oumagroot.
MEMORIAM:- CHAPLIN Peter Barrie .1 jaar dood nou . Liefde van Karin.
ERASMUS Dolorus Josephine .3 jaar dood nou. x Nick. Ma en ouma.
KELL Lillian. Tannie van Peter, Liz en David.
PIERI Siria .20 jaar dood nou. Ma,skoonma en ouma van Silvana, Bruno, Giuseppe, Giuliana, Stefano en Ricardo.
SINK Harold 24/06/1911 ------26/01/2005. Man ,pa en oiupa. Ingesit deur Bea en familie.
Gegroet uit Durban (Warm soos gewoonlik) Rita
Boodskap 15. [Koerant] The Mercury 25 Jan.2008 CREDITORS..... Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:38 pm (PST)
Vriende ,
QUICKQUIP:- "There is nobody so irritating as somebody with less intelligence and more sense than we have. " Don HEROLD.
CREDITORS /DEBTORS:-
McLEISH Clement Lindsay ID 3304165032080 + 15/12/2007 van 7 Jesmond Court ,69 Berea Park Rd. ESTATE Nr. 0235/2008 DBN. D R KNEEBONE P.O.Box 1267, Kloof. 3640.
ANDERSON Charmaine Yvonne ID 2905150072088 + 06/10/2007 van 29 Amberglen Howick . ESTATE Nr 14460/2007. FNB TRUST SERVICES P.O.Box 13527 Cascades.
CARSTENS Christoffel Gideon ID 3709285045087 + 27/10/2007 x Yvonne ID 3910120115081 van 1 Wedgewood ,22 Jenkins Str Malvern. ESTATE Nr 16955/2007 /PMB. STANDARD Executors and Trustees Ltd, P.O.Box 13961 Cascades.
SWANLUND Oscar Rudolph Albert ID 1711265069089 + 27/09/2007 x Eileen Anne ID 3312290035084 van 347 Corner 15de Str en Taunton Rd Port Edward 4295. ESTATE Nr 16967/2007 (Pmb.) STANDARD Soos bo.
TROTH Patricia Doris + 13/11/2007 ID 2404190071185 van 204 Costa Do Sol, 25 Park Drive Umhlanga Durban. ESTATE Nr 16973/2007 .FNB TRUST Services P.O.Box 212 Westville. 3630.
CAMPBELL Iris Lillian ID 1703090035088 + 20/12/2007 van 22 Kirsten Grove ,Playfair Rd ,Durban ESTATE Nr 0236/2008/ Dbn. D R KNEEBONE P.O.Box 1267 , Kloof 3640.
WISE kelvin Walter ID 3903295060083 + 22/08/2007 van 9 Harrowgate Hanbury Crescent Umhlanga Rocks. ESTATE Nr 13211/2007. McKENZIE DIXON Attorneys 14 Acacia Ave Westville 3630 REF:- W067-0001.
MOOROMAAN Mary-Ann ID 3809190255084 + 25/07/2005 van 13 Moray Place Newlands East. ESTATE nr 16025/2005/PMB. DLAMINI VAN ONSELEN O'CONNELL INC 405 Salmon Grove Chambers 407 Smith Str Durban.
CROFT May Elizabeth ID 1702240022087 + 05/02/2007 van 176 Conyngham Ave Park Hill Durban Noord ESTATE Nr 12552/2007 DBN. JB BEZUIDENHOUT P.O.Box 231 Durban 4000.
COBB Milton Claud ID 2709205048089 + 25/08/2007 van 56 Blackburn Rd Redhill Durban Noord. ESTATE NR. 16828/2007/Pmb. LIVINGSTON LEANDY INC P.O.Box 4107 The Square 4021.
THOMAS Samuel ID 3407295057081 + 13/10/2006 van Lot 25 Hibuscus Drive, Ext 11 Marburg Port Shepstone. ESTATE Nr 11047/2007/Dbn. COX YEATS P.O.Box 3032 Durban 4000.
FIRST /FINAL :-
CAMPBELL Clara Nezar ID 3304030024080 + 5/03/2007 van Empangeni . ESTATE Nr. 5028/2007/DBN. CHAPMAN DYER Inc 10 de Vloer ,300 Smith Str Durban 4001.
COOK Joyce Muriel + 24/07/2007 ID 2501310002089 van 69 Tafta Rd ,P.O.Box 1419, Rossburgh. ESTATE Nr 12329/2007. FNB TRUST SERVICES P.O.Box 13527 Cascades.
GELDENHUYS Jessie Marguerite Alice + 19/10/2007 ID 2110120025080 van 111 Uitlander Str Vryheid ESTATE Nr. 15200/2007. FNB TRUST Soos bo.
SLOGROVE Sybille + 28/09/2007 ID 5404060043188 van 15 Buckhurst Rd Sea View, Durban x Malcolm James ID 4709245125002. ESTATE Nr 15019/2007. FNB TRUST soos bo.
VAN DER MERWE Christiaan Johannes + 28/09/2007 ID 4712035007083 van 43 Wattlegoud, Aboretum Richardsbaai x Yvonne ID 4909250012083 . ESTATE Nr 14889/2007. FNB Soos bo.
Gegroet uit nou en dan 'n bui reen Durban. Rita
Boodskap 16. [Koerant] KWANA in the City 25 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:38 pm (PST)
Vriende,
WORDS OF WISDOM:- " Dying is a very dull, dreary affair. And my advice to you is to have nothing whatever to do with it. " - W. Somerset MAUGHAM.
CREDITORS /DEBTORS: -
EDGE June ID 3903010036186 + 21/10/2007 x David ID 3608155141184 van Summersands Mall, Marine Terrace Scottburgh. ESTATE nr 16060/2007/PMB. SINGH AND GHARBAHARAN P.O.Box 293 Umzinto. TEL:- 0399742525/ 9741488 REF:- Mr Gharbaharan/RB 56920(3).
MONTAGUE Anthony Sylvester ID 3707275050083 van 69 Ranald Rd off Kenilworth Rd Overport. + 03/01/2008 x Dulcie Elaine ID 4203180027084in gemeenskap van goedere. ESTATE Nr 454/2008/DBN . NIRASHA GARIB & ASSOC. P.O.Box 401183. Redhill 4071 Durban.TEL:- 031 5646322 REF:- Ms Garib/M83 56931(3)J.
HARRIS John William van 62A Minerva Rd Noord Ballito KZN. ID 5509165197083 + 25/08/2006 x Ingrid ID 5810100146080 ESTATE Nr 12921/2006 /DBN. JOHNSTON & PARTNERS 25 Claribel Rd. Morningside 4001. TEL:- 0313036011. Ref:- Sarah 12921/2006 56985(3).
LIQUIDATION AND DISTRIBUTION:-
FRANKLAND Rodney Guy ID 4201135010080 + ? van 42 Uplands Rd PMB. ESTATE Nr.935/2005. PETER O'HALLORAN P.O.Box 21830 Mayors Walk 3208. TEL:- 033 3443463 56984(3)J.
APPOINTMENT OF TRUSTEES:- Insolvente Boedel van BRUWER Johannes Willem Masters Ref:- N13/07 . PIERRE BERRANGé ,BERRANGé INC .P.O.Box 2838 PMB REF:- TN 56922(3)J.
Gegroet uit Durban waar dit nou reen (middernag) Aletta Magrieta QUEBBEMANN ( Rita) 15 Mt Royal , Dunkirk Place Umbilo Durban. Suid Afrika Ouers:- STEENKAMP /LOURENS GROOTOUERS :-STEENKAMP/ SCHEEPERS LOURENS /SWANEPOEL / VELDMAN SKOONDOGTER: BOTHA /SWANEPOEL/ SMITH Boodskap 17. Re : [SA-Gen] 150 jaar in Suid-Afrika - 300 jaar in Suid-Afrika Posted by: "MontXsuZ-point-ca" [email protected] montxsuz Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:33 pm (PST)
Beste Jan
Netjiese webwerf, dankie. Hopelik inspireer dit ons Van Rensburgs - hierdie jaar is dit 300 jaar vir ons, (howel ons nie die presises datum ken nie).
Veels geluk met die "verjaardag".
Groete Christo
------Christo van Rensburg Vancouver, BC, Canada En belle Colombie Britannique ------Janse van Rensburg X Cronje; Barnard X Schoeman Herselman X Kriel; Wright X Breytenbach (1876 Bethulie; 1883 Philippolis; 1879 Kareedouw?; 1889 Wepener) http://www.montxsuz.ca/familie/ ------
Boodskap 18. (Koerant) Beeld 26 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:04 pm (PST)
DE GRAAF; Gerritjie * 10/03/2007. Begrafnis: NH Kerk, Meyerspark, 16/03/2007. Verassing. (Beeld - 25, 26/01/2008)
WOODLAND; Zane. Kontak Loftie by 011-763-1129 oor aanneming. (Beeld - 24, 25, 26/01/2008)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 19. Re : [SA-Gen] Re : Louisa Jakoba J. van Rensburg - Geb : 1843 Nokker Posted by: "MontXsuZ-point-ca" [email protected] montxsuz Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:45 pm (PST)
Hallo David
Louis Jacobus is 'n gewilde naam onder die van Rensburgs. Ek het 5 in my databasis - maar daar is meer in die SAG..
Ek neem aan jy het NIE die SAG geraadpleeg nie. Ek sien jou Louisa Jacoba in Vol.9, p.291 as b1-c2-d14-e7-f5. Louisa Jacoba * c. 1843 x Bloemfontein 1.6.1863 Michael Christiaan HORN Ouers: e7 Louis Jacobus * 23.2.1810 = Swellendam 15.1.1811 x Swellendam 6.7.1834 Anna Sophia FOURIE (Toevallig een van my 5).
Daarna d14: David Benjamin = Stellenbosch 10.9.1780, burger Swellendam + "De Draai", dist. Riversdal 12.6.1845 x Kaapstad 22.2.1801 Susanna Johanna FOURIE = 28.7.1782 d.v. Joseph Fourie en Anna Margaretha van Rensburg, ens ...
Maar snaaks genoeg het ek die ondergenoemde "parents" Michiel Christiaan Horn / Martha Magdalena ( nee Spies) ook in my databasis. Ek wou sê daardie name lui 'n klokkie. (Ek het sy plek van dood as "Weeskraal". Sy haar dood as voor 1849)
Martha Magdalena Spies was kind #11 van haar ouers. #12 Wilhelmina Margaretha was een van myne - aan my ma se kant - en ek het BAIE gesukkel om haar te koppel. Ek leer graag meer oor daardie Spies familie. #12 se man, Adolf Johannes JONKER is ook bv 'n misterie.
Groete Christo.
------Christo van Rensburg Vancouver, BC, Canada En belle Colombie Britannique ------Janse van Rensburg X Cronje; Barnard X Schoeman Herselman X Kriel; Wright X Breytenbach (1876 Bethulie; 1883 Philippolis; 1879 Kareedouw?; 1889 Wepener) http://www.montxsuz.ca/familie/ ------
Boodskap 20. Re : [SA-Gen] ANGLO-BOEREOORLOG CD Posted by: "MontXsuZ-point-ca" [email protected] montxsuz Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:49 pm (PST)
Hallo Hetta
Dit klink na 'n ander een as wat ek het (dek meestal OVS). Laat my asb ook weet, ek stel ook belang.
Dankie Christo
------Christo van Rensburg Vancouver, BC, Canada En belle Colombie Britannique ------Janse van Rensburg X Cronje; Barnard X Schoeman Herselman X Kriel; Wright X Breytenbach (1876 Bethulie; 1883 Philippolis; 1879 Kareedouw?; 1889 Wepener) http://www.montxsuz.ca/familie/ ------Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3082
Datum: Saturday, January 26, 2008
Daar is 1 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1. [KOERANT]PAARL POST - TANIA EN ELIAS PRETORIUS From: Elizabeth Teir Boodskap 1. [KOERANT]PAARL POST - TANIA EN ELIAS PRETORIUS Posted by: "Elizabeth Teir" [email protected] kerrieborrie Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:07 am (PST)
Egpaar presteer 2008-01-24
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PAARLIET, Tania Pretorius, en haar man Elias, het vanjaar die twee toptoekennings van die Fakulteit Gesondheidswetenskappe van die Universiteit van Stellenbosch se Geneeskunde Groep ontvang.
Dr Tania Pretorius (née Krügel), is ’n oud-leerling van die Laerskool Drakenstein en Hoër Mei-sieskool La Rochelle in die Paarl.
Sy het die graad M.B.Ch.B. (mediese dokter) aan die Universiteit van Stellenbosch so pas Cum Laude verwerf.
By die jaarlikse eed-afleggingseremonie van die Fakulteit, het sy ook die Beste Presteerder Medalje van die Fakulteit Gesondheidswetenskappe ontvang.
Dié medalje word toegeken aan die student wat die beste akademiese prestasie behaal het gedurende die ses-jaar mediese kursus.
Sy slaag haar kursus ’n ge-mid-delde van 82,5% en in haar finale jaar het sy vyf onderskeidings be-haal.
Asof dit nie genoeg was nie, het sy by hierdie geleentheid ook die prys ontvang vir die beste student in Verloskunde en Ginekologie.
Sy het ook gedurende 2007 die volle Erekleure van die Tygerberg Studente Unie ontvang vir Aka-demie asook Ere---kleure van die Uni-versiteit van Stellenbosch vir Aka-de-mie.
Dr Elias Pretorius, haar man, het by dieselfde geleentheid die Francie van Zijl-medal-je vir die student wat die beste prestasie gelewer het in nie-akademiese bedrywighede ont-vang. Hy was onder meer voorsitter v Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3083
Datum: Sunday, January 27, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: ANGLO-BOEREOORLOG CD From: Sylvester Rascher
2. EK HET OOK 'n LOUIS VAN RENSBURG GEVIND From: Berna Julietta van de Venter
3a. Digitalisering van NG Kerkregisters & outeursregte From: Viljoen, HC
3b. Digitalisering van NG Kerkregisters & outeursregte From: Hendrik Louw Gmail
4a. Re: Voortrekkergrafte moet plek maak vir nuwe wisselaar!! From: Dennis Laptop
5a. Re: NAAIRS - MHG soek From: Dennis Laptop
6a. Re : [SA-Gen] EK HET OOK 'n LOUIS VAN RENSBURG GEVIND From: MontXsuZ-point-ca
6b. Re : [SA-Gen] EK HET OOK 'n LOUIS VAN RENSBURG GEVIND From: MontXsuZ-point-ca
6c. Re: EK HET OOK 'n LOUIS VAN RENSBURG GEVIND From: Ann Tiran
6d. Re: EK HET OOK 'n LOUIS VAN RENSBURG GEVIND From: Ann Tiran
7. Dr Dan Sleigh From: Ferdie
8a. Re: Re : [SA-Gen] Re : Louisa Jakoba J. van Rensburg - Geb : 1843 No From: David Jamieson
9a. Re: Le ROUX kenners asb... From: bonnie sydow
9b. Le ROUX kenners asb... From: Hendrik Louw Gmail
10a. Re: Doopregister : Graaff-Reinet From: Dirk Bloem
10b. Re: Doopregister : Graaff-Reinet From: Isebelle Krauss
11a. VILJOEN inligting From: Helgard Holtzhausen
11b. Re: VILJOEN inligting From: Verna Fourie
12.1. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
12.2. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
13a. VILJOEN Inligting From: Helgard Holtzhausen
13b. Re: VILJOEN Inligting From: Christo Viljoen
14a. Begrafnisbrief From: Fanie Blignaut
15. De Jager From: Ferdie
16. Muller familie From: Annemie Lourens Boodskap 1a. Re: ANGLO-BOEREOORLOG CD Posted by: "Sylvester Rascher" [email protected] sylvesterrascher Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:57 am (PST)
Dankie Hetta.
Groete Rassie
Boodskap 2. EK HET OOK 'n LOUIS VAN RENSBURG GEVIND Posted by: "Berna Julietta van de Venter" [email protected] capricornjump Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:20 am (PST)
Môre alle dese en genersoekers
Ek het ook 'n Louis Jacobus gevind danksy Emmerentia (Faan se aanbeveling) My oumagrootjie Louisa se vader was: Louis Jacobus *31.12.1826 x Susara Susanna Lamberta Saaiman Christo daar van Kanada is die oompie Louis dalk een van jou 5 Louis'e?
Kyk wat kry ek nog: (Ek "spoeg en plak" dit hieronder) LIST OF AFRICAN DAMS Lêerformaat: Microsoft Excel 587, 2, 3, 582, 21, Balfour, ZAF, 227, South Africa, Mpumalanga, Volksrust, Van Rensburg, Indian Ocean Coast, Tugela, 1941, -999, 363, 0.0, -999 ... www.fao.org/nr/water/aquastat/damsafrica/african_dams.xls - Soortgelyke bladsye Meer soekresultate uit www.fao.org »
3 35665AlartsfonteinZAF227South Africa
Northern CapeArundelOorlogspoortOrange BasinOrange1955 -999 5460.0-999 S312 E2527 -31.033325.4500a1
Okay, soos met alles in die land het Alartsfontein van 1955 seker nou 'n hele nuwe spiksplinter naam! Waar hierdie dam is; ek weet nie? Dit was net 'n baie interessante bron wat ek op afgekom het en Graag met almal deel. Weet enige van die ouergarde op die lys dalk?
Google search het ek op 'n Saaiman stamboom afgekom. Daar was heelwat Riversdal van Rensburgs. Ek het nie bogenoemde Louis en Susara gevind tensy ek teen my oogvelle vasgekyk het. Tik net Saaiman Stamboom in vir diegene wat belangstel.
Hoop om van julle te verneem. Vriendelike "Bernie" groete Berna
Boodskap 3a. Digitalisering van NG Kerkregisters & outeursregte Posted by: "Viljoen, HC " [email protected] hc_viljoen Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:39 am (PST)
Beste Hendrik
Ek verwys na jou e-pos hieronder, en reageer met die beste bedoelings.
In 1999 het die NG Kerk van Transvaal en NG Kerk in Suid-Afrika nl. besluit om GISA toe te laat om die kerklike registers in die Argief te laat mikro-verfilm deur die GSU sodat die films o.a. by GISA (asook die GSU se wêreldwye netwerk van familiegeskiedenis-sentra) geraadpleeg kan word met die oog op familienavorsing.
Die ooreenkoms is ook deur die Algemene Sinode goedgekeur namens alle streeksinodes.
Die 1999 ooreenkomste is onder leiding van die NGK se Argief & Bestuursinlitingsdienste (ABID) hersien en in Desember 2006 het ABID 'n eksklusiewe ooreenkoms met GISA en die GSU gesluit vir die digitale verfilming van alle kerklike registers onder beheer van die NG Kerk (wat nog nie verfilm is nie). Dit beskerm die Intellektuele Eiendomsreg van die NG Kerk (by wie die outeursregte steeds setel) tov alle kerklike registers.
Die digitalisering het 'n jaar gelede by ABID op Stellenbosch begin en word voltyds gedoen, en is reeds ver gevorder. Die verwagting is dat al hierdie data in die afsienbare toekoms ook via die internet toeganklik sal wees.
Ek wil aan die hand doen dat jy veiligheidshalwe sekerheid by ABID kry oor die vraag of jou projek onbedoeld nie strydig is met die bogenoemde ooreenkomste nie. Outeursregte bly maar 'n sensitiewe saak......
Vriendelike groete Christo
Boodskap 3b. Digitalisering van NG Kerkregisters & outeursregte Posted by: "Hendrik Louw Gmail" [email protected] hendrik_louw Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:28 am (PST)
Beste Christo,
Ek gaan sommer net gou 'n paar gedagtes hier deurgee, nie so seer in mooi uiteengesitte volgorde of so nie, miskien is daar ook taal foute, maar jy sal die strekking van al my gesprekvoerings ens wel kan volg.
Dankie vir jou skrywe en ja .. ek aanvaar dit in goeie gees, so asb. aanvaar ook my skrywe so.
Groete
Hendrik LOUW 082 722 6500
1. Ek het met Dr Johan Froneman en Isabel Krauss self geskakel en alles uitgevind oor die saak. So staan ek ook self binne 'n Gemeente, Ring en Sinode
2. Elke Gemeente behou kopiereg en is in eie selfstandig en kan besluite neem, in so 'n mate dat baie gemeentes, veral die in die VRYSTAAT weier om hul registers af te stuur, omrede Johan Froneman nie die registers wil terug stuur na verfilming nie. Ek het toestamming by elke gemeente gekry, dus volgens my en die regs hulp ingewin, kan die sinodes nie kopiereg eis wat nie aan hulle behoort nie. Nie Johan of Isabel het beswaar gemaak nie, maar ingewillig om my te help met die verfilming as ek die gemeente se toestemming kry.
3. Die gedeeltes wat reeds op GSU mikrofilms is, word dus dadelik oor geplaas op jpg formaat soos wat die GSU tans met alle ander Sk's en ander dokumente doen
4. Die vraag is wanneer gaan die dokumente vir die gewone navorser toeganklik wees? en indien by GISA, dit is 1400 km van my af. Die toeganklikheid daarvan is nogsteeds 'n YSLIKE probleem. Neem nou bv. die gemeentes wat reeds hul registers ingestuur het, dit is vir my verlore. Ek kan niks kry nie, die gemeente se, vra die argiewe in Stellenbosch en die weet ek is ontoeganklik.
5. Uit bostaande is dit vir my duidelik dat ek op niemand se tone trap nie en dat ek beslis GEEN kopiereg oortree nie. As ek dus iets mis, help asb. maar dan verstaan ek die hele gemeente saak verkeerd
'n Laaste saak, die sinode kan kontrakte teken tot dat hulle blou is in die gesig, maar elke GEMEENTE moet in eie reg instem daartoe. Die kontrakte kan GEEN NG gemeente dwing nie, maar is in effek 'n versoek om saam te werk sodat die groter NG Kerk familie in geheel bevoordeel kan word. Boodskap 4a. Re: Voortrekkergrafte moet plek maak vir nuwe wisselaar!! Posted by: "Dennis Laptop" [email protected] dennis_pretorius Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:01 am (PST)
Hallo Susan
Ek was nog nie weer daar nie maar sal vir jou uitvind by 'n volgende geleentheid.
Die name van die mense wat herbegrawe is het met Hendrik Louw se komplimente op die lys verskyn
Daar is heelwat plaasbegraafplase in die muldersdrift omgewing wat nog nie ogeteken is nie.
Groetnis
Dennis Pretorius, Krugersdorp, South Africa/Suid Afrika Executive Member of GSSA / Uitvoerende Lid van GGSA Genealogical Researcher/Genealogiese Navorser Owner of SAGenealogy E-mail list/Lyseienaar - SAGenealogie poslys E-Mail/E-pos: [email protected] Web address/Webadres: http://mzone.mweb.co.za/residents/k75/genealogy.html Telephone/Telefoon: +27-83-679-8541 Fax/Faks +27-86-609-8541
Boodskap 5a. Re: NAAIRS - MHG soek Posted by: "Dennis Laptop" [email protected] dennis_pretorius Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:04 am (PST)
Hallo Willeen
Stuur asb vir my die name en besonderhede - ek wil graag daarna kyk - vir iets soortgelyk wat ek ondervind het
Groetnis
Dennis Pretorius, Krugersdorp, South Africa/Suid Afrika Executive Member of GSSA / Uitvoerende Lid van GGSA Genealogical Researcher/Genealogiese Navorser Owner of SAGenealogy E-mail list/Lyseienaar - SAGenealogie poslys E-Mail/E-pos: [email protected] Web address/Webadres: http://mzone.mweb.co.za/residents/k75/genealogy.html Telephone/Telefoon: +27-83-679-8541 Fax/Faks +27-86-609-8541
Boodskap 6a. Re : [SA-Gen] EK HET OOK 'n LOUIS VAN RENSBURG GEVIND Posted by: "MontXsuZ-point-ca" [email protected] montxsuz Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:15 am (PST)
Boodskap 6b. Re : [SA-Gen] EK HET OOK 'n LOUIS VAN RENSBURG GEVIND Posted by: "MontXsuZ-point-ca" [email protected] montxsuz Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:30 am (PST)
Hallo Berna
My laaste email is deur Yahoo opgeëet.
Dankie vir die Saaiman wenk. Dit help totdat SAG met "Z" uitkom vir ons met Eva se bloed - en ek het heelwat. (Tussen hakies http://www.zaaiman.nl/zaaiman.html - is dit waarvan jy praat?)
Dog koppel dit nie Daniel Zaaiman aan Nederlandse ouers nie, en gee ook nie bronne aan nie. Die vroeë geslagte help nogal, maar die latere geslagte het heelwat "missing", bv die Zaaiman oor wie ek gister op die lys geskryf het, maw Maria Magdalena Zaaiman (*1823/25 + Boshof, Vrystaat 9 Aug 1898) Maar nou weet ek ten minste sy was a1-b5-c3-d5-e11-f2?
Ja ek het jou Louis Jacobus ook. Hy is op dieslfde s/k van sy vader wat ek voorheen genoem het.
Ek stuur jou graf-fotos.
Groete Christo
Tussen hakies. Daar bestaan ten minste 3 dik novelles oor Eva en Pieternella. Ek het aldrie deurgelees. Bgnd stamboom het die b-geslag-kinders in 'n effe ander volgorde, maar ten minste met datums - ongelukkig weet ek nie watter weergawe korrek is nie.
------Christo van Rensburg Vancouver, BC, Canada En belle Colombie Britannique ------Janse van Rensburg X Cronje; Barnard X Schoeman Herselman X Kriel; Wright X Breytenbach (1876 Bethulie; 1883 Philippolis; 1879 Kareedouw?; 1889 Wepener) http://www.montxsuz.ca/familie/ ------
Boodskap 6c. Re: EK HET OOK 'n LOUIS VAN RENSBURG GEVIND Posted by: "Ann Tiran" [email protected] anntiran Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:39 am (PST)
Maureen Brady het heelwat werk oor die Zaaiman/Zaayman gedoen. Ek het ongelukkig nie meer haar eposadres nie.
In die PELSER boek deur Prof Pienaar, sê hy op bl. 7 die volgende oor DANIEL ZAAIMAN: “ VOC se patatplanter afkomstig uit Vlissingen, woonagtig op Mauritius. Sy bronne is so lywig en nie genommer soos ek myne het nie dus is dit moeilik om agter te kom waaruit hy sy inligting vir Daniel neem.
Groete
Annatjie
Boodskap 6d. Re: EK HET OOK 'n LOUIS VAN RENSBURG GEVIND Posted by: "Ann Tiran" [email protected] anntiran Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:40 am (PST)
Voor ek weer raas kry…JAMMER ek het vergeet om al die oortollige informasie uit te haal voordat ek SEND gedruk het.
Annatjie
Boodskap 7. Dr Dan Sleigh Posted by: "Ferdie" [email protected] ferdie_van_wyk Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:39 am (PST)
Goeiemiddag medegeners,
Sal Helena Liebenberg my asb van die lys af kontak. Ons by N-Tvl Tak van GGSA probeer om kontak te maak met Dr Sleigh maar is nog nie suksesvol gewees nie
Groete
Ferdie van Wyk
Die van Wyks van Tarka en die Van der Walts van Colesberg. Doringkloof, Centurion. 082-556-8031
Boodskap 8a. Re: Re : [SA-Gen] Re : Louisa Jakoba J. van Rensburg - Geb : 1843 No Posted by: "David Jamieson" [email protected] davidkjamieson Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:21 am (PST)
Hallo Christo,
Baie dankie vir die inligting oor die bo-genoemde en ek sal in die toekoms by die SAG gaan soek, soos jy aanbeveel het.
Dit is van belang dat so baie van ons familie in die Riversdal area gewoon het en toe later na die Vrystaat toe getrek het.
Nogmal's baie dankie vir jou hulp en advies.
Groete vanaf Skotland.
David
Boodskap 9a. Re: Le ROUX kenners asb... Posted by: "bonnie sydow" [email protected] Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:35 am (PST)
Hallo Hendrik
Ek kan nie help aan die le ROUX kant nie maar wel die ouers van Ockert Jacobus STRYDOM & sy kinders.
1. Ockert Jacobus STRYDOM * 19.7.1928, s.v. Ockert Jacobus STRYDOM en Catharina Maria BOTHA, x Alida Elizabeth Le ROUX * 26.10.1933. Hul woon Brandvlei 78, Dist.Randfontein in 1972 (1972 Kieserslys)
1.1. Ockert Jacobus * 26.7.1958 + 12.4.1982
1.2. Petrus Arnoldus Bernadus * 10.4.1961 x Annemien Burger STEENKAMP * 11.3.1964
1.2.1. Anri * 12.7.1985
1.2.2 Irna * 19.7.1989
1.3. Alida Elizabeth * 13.8.1962
Die inligting is meesal verkry van Dan Strydom, met sommige byvoegings deur myself.
Groete
Bonnie
Boodskap 9b. Le ROUX kenners asb... Posted by: "Hendrik Louw Gmail" [email protected] hendrik_louw Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:05 am (PST)
Bonnie, Dan
Baie dankie vir die inligting
Arrie Strydom (Petrus Arnoldus Bernardus STRYDOM) en Annemien Steenkamp is my broer se huisvriende. Ek het hulle Desember ontmoet en korrespondeer nou met hulle. Dankie vir die inligting.
O,ja ... hulle het 3 kinders, sal vir jou die opgedateerde inligting stuur
Groete
Hendrik LOUW 082 722 6500
Boodskap 10a. Re: Doopregister : Graaff-Reinet Posted by: "Dirk Bloem" [email protected] dirkbloem Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:02 am (PST)
Hallo Obie en ander
Ja ek sal ook graag wil weet of dit al bestaan op die rekenaar /internet, ek twyfel egter daaroor. Ek weet egter daar is filmrolle by GISA, Stellenbosch, beskikbaar. Ek weet nie van die LDS in JHB nie, moontlik ook daar.
As iemand weet of dit elektronies beskikbaar is stel ek ook belang daarin en versoek ek dus dat ek daarvan bewus gemaak word.
Groetnis en dankie
Dirk Bloem Potchefstroom 0836446180
Boodskap 10b. Re: Doopregister : Graaff-Reinet Posted by: "Isebelle Krauss" [email protected] iekrauss Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:40 am (PST)
Nie elektronies beskikbaar nie, die films in in JHB beskikbaar, maar jy kan n navraag rig aan Johannesburg OF Gisa vir navorsing.....Gisa beskik dan ook oor die DVDs, maar dit is nog nie soekbaar nie, moet nog van n Indeks voorsien word.
Hulle is egter uiters bekwaam en behulpsaam met navorsing.
Die elektroniese databasis word binnekort op die Familysearch web ge indekseer en sal dan vanaf die webwerwe van Gisa en Familysearch en die NG Kerk beskikbaar wees.
Daar is kopiereg op die films en kan dus nie na wil en wetens getranskribeer word vir ander as bg webwerwe of the NG Kerk se webwerf nie....of dan net vir persoonlike navorsing nie......
Isebelle E Krauss *Lloyd.
Boodskap 11a. VILJOEN inligting Posted by: "Helgard Holtzhausen" [email protected] helgard_holtzhausen Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:07 am (PST)
Goeiedag almal
Kan iemand asseblief my Oupa- en Oumagrootjie se inligting wat ek kort in SAG opsoek of as dit nie daarin opgeneem is nie, kan een van die VILJOEN of MALAN kenners my dalk help?
Volgens my inligting is hy b4c2d2e13f2g2.
Cornelis Hendrik VILJOEN *26 Nov 1845 waar? x datum? waar? sterfdatum? waar?
Johanna Maria MALAN *28 Okt 1849 waar? sterfdatum? waar?
Baie dankie by voorbaat
Helgard HOLTZHAUSEN
Boodskap 11b. Re: VILJOEN inligting Posted by: "Verna Fourie" [email protected] verna.fourie Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:25 pm (PST)
Hi Helgard,
SAG 14, bl 343 gee Cornelis Hendrik * 26.11.1845 ~ Potchefstroom, 19.04.1848, boer "Zwagershoek" dist. Lydenburg, x Johanna Maria MALAN * 28.10.1839
Ongelukkig is dit alin SAG.
Groete, Verna
Boodskap 12.1. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:34 am (PST)
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG 28 APRIL 1867
P 143 1867
693 Jan Jacobus Georg geb 6 Maart 1867
Ouders: Barend Christoffel DUVENAGE
Elsje Magdalena DUVENAGE / DUVENAGE
Get: Jan Georg DUVENAGE
Anna Jacomina DUVENAGE / BOTHA
Abraham Johannis Christiaan Petrus DUVENAGE
Louisa Johanna DUVENAGE / VAN HEERDEN
694 Neeltje Elisabetha Gertina geb 11 Maart 1867
Ouders: Martinus Johannis Christoffel ROETS
Maria Petronella Margretha ROETS / POTGIETER
Get: Frederik Christoffel GROBLER en
Maria Petronella Margaretha GROBLER / PELTZER
Harklaas Petrus VENTER en
Neeltje Elisabetha Gertina VENTER / POTGIETER
Willem Jacobus PELTZER en
Margaretha Alida PELTZER / JAKOBS
695 Aletta Johanna geb 9 Febr 1867
Ouders: Willem Jacobus PELTZER en
Margaretha Alida PELTZER / JAKOBS
Get: Jakobus Frederik DUVENAGE en
Helena Geertruida DUVENAGE / JAKOBS
Johannis Elardus ERASMUS en
Aletha ERASMUS / JAKOBS
696 Willem Jakobus geb 9 Febr 1867
Ouders: Deselfde Ouders
Get: Willem Frederik STEIN en
Martha Maria STEIN / POTGIETER
Abraham Petrus DUVENAGE
Johanna Catharina Elisabet DUVENAGE / JAKOBS
P 144 1867
697 Susara Maria geb 4 Febr 1867
Ouders: Theunis Johannis BOTHA
Susara Maria Hendrika BOTHA / DUVENAGE
Get: Jan Georg DUVENAGE en
Anna Jacomina DUVENAGE / BOTHA
Teunis Johannis BOTHA en
Maria Suzanna BOTHA / HAVINGA
698 Hendrik Christoffel geb 19 Febr 1867
Ouders: Jacobus Frederik ROOS
Maria Elizabetha ROOS / RENSEBURG
Get: Johannis jacobus SCHOEMAN en
Anna Jacoba SCHOEMAN / RENSEBURG
Gert Lourens VAN EMMENIS en
Anna jacoba VAN EMMENIS / GEYSER
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG 27 MEI 1867
699 Anna Sofeia geb 26 Febr 1867
Ouders: Tobias LA GRANGE
Anna Sofeia LA GRANGE / GROBLER
Get: Willem Jan Hendrik POTGIETER en
Johanna Willemina POTGIETER / LA GRANGE
Stefanus Johannis VAN RENSBURG en
Elisabetha VAN RENSBURG / BOTHA
P 145 1867
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG 2 JUNY 1867
700 Hester Catharina geb 25 Febr 1867
Ouders: Willem Abraham GROBLER
Hester Catharina GROBLER / POGIETER
Get: Johannis Jacobus ROETS en
Susara Frederika ROETS / POGIETER
Paul Stefanus POTGIETER en
Suzanna Margrietha POTGIETER / DUVENAGE
701 Johanna (deurgeskrap) Engelan Jacomina geb 17 Mei 1867
Ouders: Jan Herman EBERS
Johanna Margaretha EBERS / OELOFSE
Get: Nicolaas Theodorus OELOFSE en
Abrama Johanna Willemina Antoinetta OELOFSE / PELTZER
702 Alewyn Petrus geb 27 Nov 1867 (moet seker 1866 wees)
Ouders: Francois Nicolaas VAN DEN BERG
Maria Catharina VAN DEN BERG / BOTHA
Get: Gottlieb Adolf OPPERMAN en
Anna Margrietha Catharina OPPERMAN / BOTHA
Roelof Jacobus VAN EMMENIS en
Gertruida Willemina Magdalena VAN EMMENIS / JONKER
703 Maria Dorothea Elisabetha geb 5 April 1867
Ouders: Hendrik Leendert Lammert DU PLOOY
Maria Dorothea Elisabetha DU PLOOY / BOTHA
Get: Frederik Johannis BOTHA en
Elisabetha Petronella Johanna BOTHA / BEUKES
Gideon VAN ECK
Christiaan Jacobus BOTHA
GEDOOPT DEN 9 JUNY 1867 TE ZOUTPANSBERG DOOR DEN PREDIKANT N.J. VAN WARMELO
704 Willem Jan Hendrik geb 20 Mei 1867
Ouders: Willem Jan Hendrik POTGIETER
Johanna Willemina POTGIETER / GROBLER
Get: Lourens Martinus BRONKHORST en
Anna Suzanna BRONKHORST / GROBLER
Hermanus Jacobus POTGIETER en
Johanna Carolina POTGIETER / ROOS
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 12.2. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:37 am (PST)
GEDOOPT DEN 9 JUNY 1867 TE ZOUTPANSBERG DOOR DEN PREDIKANT N.J. VAN WARMELO
P 146 1867
705 Hendrik Adriaan geb 6 Maart 1867
Ouders: Pieter Johannis Leendert ROETS
Anna Francina ROETS / ERASMUS
Get: Gert Adriaan Jacobus ROETS en
Martha Catharina ROETS / DE WET
David Benjamin ERASMUS en
Katharina Suzanna ERASMUS / ROETS
GEDOOPT DEN 16 JUNY 1867 ZOUTPANSBERG
706 Stefanus Johannis geb 29 Maart 1867
Ouders: Nicolaas Martinus JANSE VAN RENSEBURG
Maria Magdalena J VAN RENSEBURG / MEYER
Get: Jasper AITCHISON en
Suzanna Sofeia AITCHISON / MINNAAR
Jakob DE KLERQ en
Martha Sofeia DE KLERK / JANSE VAN RENSEBURG
707 Pieter Johannis geb 21 April 1867
Ouders: Stefanus Johannis JANSE VAN RENSBURG
Elisabetha Helena J VAN RENSBURG / BOTHA
Get: Nicolaas Martinus J VAN RENSBURG en
Maria Magdalena J VAN RENSBURG / MEYER
Koenraad Frederik FICK
Jacobus Frederik BOTHA en
Maria BOTHA / GROBLER
708 Mareina Adriana geb 6 Febr 1867
Ouders: Johannis Michiel VENTER
Mareina Adriana VENTER / GEYSER
Get: Martinus Frederik GEYSER en
Suzanna Cecilia GEYSER / VAN STADEN
Frederik Hendrik GEYSER en
Sara Johanna Suzanna GEYSER / BRONKHORST
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG 30 JUNY 1867 DOOR DEN PREDIKANT N.J. VAN WARMELO
P 147 1867
709 Alida Catharina geb 7 January 1867
Ouders: Georg Hendrik MARNITZ (Lutersch kerk )
Maria Magdalena MARNITZ / FORTMAN
Get: Hendrik SCHNELL – Doopvader
Antoinetta Sofeia SCHNELL / FORTMAN
Philip Stefanus JAKOBS en
Johanna Gertruida JAKOBS / KOERTSE
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG DEN 7 DEN JULY 1867 DOOR DEN PREDIKANT N.J. VAN WARMELO
710 Hendrik Josefus geb 30 Mei 1867
Ouders: Jacobus Martinus OOSTHUIZEN
Christina Catharina Martina OOSTHUIZEN / VAN STADEN
Get: Martinus Frederik GEYSER en
Suzanna Cecilia GEYSER / VAN STADEN
Christiaan Hendrik VAN STADEN en (deurgeskrap)
Sofeia VAN STADEN / PRETORIUS (deurgeskrap)
Hendrik VENTER en
Jacoba GEYSER
711 Helena Elisabetha geb 24 April 1865
Ouders: Andries Johannis DU PLESSIS
Esther Magdalena DU PLESSIS / VENTER
Get: Alewyn Petrus BOTHA en
Emmerencie Magdalena BOTHA / GEYSER
712 Jan Harm geb 24 Maart 1867
Ouders: Deselfde
Get: Hendrik Francois VENTER en
Jacoba Cornelia VENTER / GEYSER
Lourens Stefanus DU PLESSIS en
Petronella DU PLESSSIS / BOTHA
P 148 1867
713 Neeltje Christina geb 4 Juny 1867
Ouders: Jaobus Nicolaas ELOF
Neeltje Christina ELOF / GROBLER
Get: Douw Stefanus GROBLER en
Jacoba Hendrika GROBLER / ELOF
Jacoba Helena NUNES / MARNITZ
714 Martha Helena geb 12 Mei 1867
Ouders: Hendrik Mattheus Filippus SANDERS (Non L)
Cornelia Johanna SANDERS / BODES
Get: Carel Johannes MINI – doopvader
Jacoba Cornelia MINI
J.H. DU PLOOY en
H.E. DU PLOOY / VAN DER BERG
GEDOOPT TE ZOUTPANSBERG 14 KULY 1867
715 Susara Frederika geb 19 Febr 1867
Ouders: Samuel Hendrik VERCEUIL
Aletta Pieternella VERCEUIL / GROBLER
Get: Johannis Jacobus Andreas VERCEUIL en
Heila Catharina VERCEUIL / BOTHA
Jan Christoffel ROETS en
Elsje ROETS / GROBLER
GEDOOPT TE LAGERPLAATS WATERVAL 20 JULY 1867
716 Cecilia Jacoba geb 28 April 1867
Ouders: Johannes Jacobus MEINHARDT
Alida Aletta MEINHARDT / DU PLOOY
Get: Dietlof Siegfried MARé en
Johanna Magdalena MARé / KRUGER
Philippus Arnoldus VENTER en
Anna Cecilia Suzanna VENTER / ELOF
P 149 1867
OP DEN 28 JULY 1867 GEDOOPT OP DEN PLAATS WELTEVREDEN, RENOSTERPOORT DOOR DEN PREDIKANT N.J. VAN WARMELO
717 Suzanna Catharina geb 19 Mei 1867
Ouders: Johannis Christoffel ROETS
Elsje ROETS / GROBLER
Get: Willem Abraham GROBLER en
Hetser Catharina GROBLER / POTGIETER
Petrus Paulus HUGO en
Magdalena Willemina Gertruida HUGO / ROETS
718 Pieter Daniel Andries Salomon geb 3 July 1867
OUders: Johannis Lodevicus Hermanus DU PREEZ
Zacharya Catharina DU PREEZ / VAN DYK
Get: Pieter Daniel Andries Salomon DU PREEZ en
Gertruida Aletta DU PREEZ / BOTHA
Petrus Jacobus Stefanus Johannes Lodewyk VENTER
Anna Suzanna Catharina VENTER / VAN DYK
719 Martha Hendrina geb 22 April 1867
Vader: Rudolf Teunis Johannes BRONKHORST weduwenaar
Get: Pieter Daniel DU PREEZ en
Engela Gertruida DU PREEZ / PRETORIUS – doopmoeder
GEDOOPT TE WELTEVREDEN 18 AUG 1867
720 Hendrik Lodewyk geb 1867 23 Mei
Ouders: Frederik Antonie NIEWENHUYSEN
Hester Johanna NIEWENHUYSEN / DU PREEZ
Get: Johannes Lourens DU PREEZ en
Catharina Hendrina Francina DU PREEZ /NIEWENHUYSEN
Filippus Jacobus DU PREEZ en
Anna Sofeia DU PREEZ / SMIT
Pieter UYS ? en
Jeanetta Willemina Elisabetha UYS / DU PREEZ
721 Dorothea Willemina geb 3 Nov 1866
Ouders: Pieter Jacobus DU PREEZ
Margaretha Johanna DU PREEZ / NIEWENHUYSEN
Get: Mattheus Jacobus VAN DER WESTHUYSEN en
Johanna Maria VAN DER WESHUYSEN / DE LANGE
Hendrik NIEWENHUYSEN en
Pieternella NIEWENHUYSEN / MEYER
P 150 1867
722 Hendrik Martinus geb 1867 22 April
Vader: Rudolf Johannes Teunis BRONKHORST – weduwenaar
Get: Pieter Daniel DU PREEZ en
Engela Gertruida DU PREEZ / PRETORIUS
Adriaan Jacobus MARAIS en
Judith Johanna Suzanna MARAIS / SMIT
723 Zacahrias Arnoldus Stefanus geb 20? Nov 1865
Ouders: Christiaan Hendrik VAN STADEN
Elsje Sofeia Dorothea VAN STADEN / PRETORIUS
Get: Hermanus Johannis VAN STADEN en
Christina Catharina VAN STADEN / BOSHOF
Johannes Frederik PRETORIUS en
Anna Elisabetha PRETORIUS / STEENKAMP
Hermanus Johannis VAN STADEN en
Alida Maria VAN STADEN / BOSHOF
724 Jan Jacobus Andreas geb 18 July 1867
Ouders: Paul Stefanus BOTHA
Johanna Magdalena BOTHA / VERCEUIL
Get: Jan jacobus Abdreas VERCEUIL en
Helena Catharina VERCEUIL / BOTHA
Sameul Hendrik VERCEUIL en
Aletta Pieternella VERCEUIL / GROBLER
GEDOOPT TE LAGERPLAATS PALMIETFONTEIN DEN 23 DEN AUGUSTUS 1867
725 Magdalena Willemina Catharina Geertruida geb 14 Dec 1866
Ouders: Barend Jacobus VORSTER
Alida Suzanna Margrietha VORSTER / BOTHA
Get: Georg Frederik SNYMAN en
Magdalena Willemina Catharina SNYMAN / BOTHA
Willem GROBLER en
Willemina Geertruida GROBLER / BOTHA
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER /
Boodskap 13a. VILJOEN Inligting Posted by: "Helgard Holtzhausen" [email protected] helgard_holtzhausen Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:50 am (PST)
Goeiedag almal
Kan iemand asseblief my Oupa- en Oumagrootjie se inligting wat ek kort in SAG opsoek of as dit nie daarin opgeneem is nie, kan een van die VILJOEN of MALAN kenners my dalk help?
Volgens my inligting is hy b4c2d2e13f2g2.
Cornelis Hendrik VILJOEN *26 Nov 1845 waar? x datum? waar? sterfdatum? waar? Johanna Maria MALAN *28 Okt 1849 waar? sterfdatum? waar?
Baie dankie by voorbaat
Helgard HOLTZHAUSEN
Boodskap 13b. Re: VILJOEN Inligting Posted by: "Christo Viljoen" [email protected] hc_viljoen Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:32 am (PST)
Beste Helgard
Ek weet nie waar Cornelis Hendrik Viljoen * 26 Nov 1845 gebore is nie, maar hy is op 19 Apr 1848 in Potchefstroom deur ds Lindley tydens 'n Voortrekkerdoopgeleentheid gedoop. Hy was 'n boer van Swaershoek, dist Lydenburg. Sy sterfdatum is onbekend aan my. Van Johanna Maria Malan * 28 Okt 1845 het ek geen verdere besonderhede nie.
Groete Christo
Boodskap 14a. Begrafnisbrief Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:09 am (PST)
Naand Vriende,
Ek het nou die volgende Begrafnisbrief op Fotki geplaas.
Van der Merwe, Christina Gezina (Stien) nee Blignaut 19221210 + 20060611.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut
Boodskap 15. De Jager Posted by: "Ferdie" [email protected] ferdie_van_wyk Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:21 am (PST)
Goeienaand Medegeners,
Hierdie keer is ek op soek na Doreen Mabel de Jager *3 Sep 1895, † 20 Okt 1970.
Sy kom moontlik van Beaufort Wes af en is met Arthur Rowan Cashel * 13 Sep 1894 en † circa 1947, getroud. Hul het na die destydse Rhodesië verhuis. Indien enigiemand met iets oor enige een van die twee kan help sal ek dit baie waardeer.
Groete
Ferdie van Wyk Die van Wyks van Tarka en die Van der Walts van Colesberg. Doringkloof, Centurion. 082-556-8031
Boodskap 16. Muller familie Posted by: "Annemie Lourens" [email protected] annemielourens Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:29 am (PST)
Goeiedag Lede
Kan enige van die Muller navorsers my dalk help met meer inligting oor die egpaar.
Pieter Cornelis Muller getroud met Johanna Catharina Lambrechts Louw sy is gebore 19 Mar 1870 en gedoop op 17 Apr 1870 in die Swartland. Dogter van Johannes Louw en Carolina Jacomina Adriana Heydenrych.
Groete Annemie Lourens Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3084
Datum: Monday, January 28, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1. Lombaard en Basson From: Annemie Lourens
2. Basson en Louw From: Annemie Lourens
3. Basson en Smuts From: Annemie Lourens
4. Bresler en Basson From: Annemie Lourens
5a. Begrafnisbrief From: Fanie Blignaut
6a. re Flatbed scanner From: Petrus Schoeman
6b. Re: re Flatbed scanner From: MeerkatB
7. Re Flatbed scanner From: Eben Vorster
8a. Re: Guilliam Johannes Oberholster Geb 1816 From: Janet Melville
8b. Re: Guilliam Johannes Oberholster Geb 1816 From: Johan
9a. Re: VILJOEN Inligting From: Janet Melville
10a. Gesoek: BASSON, CP x STEYN, MJ (*1848) From: Johann Ahlers
10b. Re: Gesoek: BASSON, CP x STEYN, MJ (*1848) From: Gert Schepers
10c. Re: Gesoek: BASSON, CP x STEYN, MJ (*1848) From: Johann Ahlers
10d. Re: Gesoek: BASSON, CP x STEYN, MJ (*1848) From: Annemie Lourens
10e. Re: Gesoek: BASSON, CP x STEYN, MJ (*1848) From: Johann Ahlers
10f. Re: Gesoek: BASSON, CP x STEYN, MJ (*1848) From: Annemie Lourens
11a. (no subject) From: Dik Groenhuizen
11b. Re: (unknown) From: Daniel Jacobs
11c. Re: (unknown) From: Dik groenhuizen
12. [Koerant] Sunday Tribune 27 Januarie 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
13a. [Koerant] The Mercury Maandag 28Jan. 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
13b. [Koerant] The Mercury Maandag 28Jan. 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
14a. Smit getroud met Maartens en van der Merwe From: Johan Pottas
14b. Re: Smit getroud met Maartens en van der Merwe From: Elizabeth Oberholster Boodskap 1. Lombaard en Basson Posted by: "Annemie Lourens" [email protected] annemielourens Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:10 am (PST)
Goeiedag Lede
Ek soek inligting oor die volgende egpaar, Stephanus Francois Basson gebore 18.4.1847 oorlede op 7.9.1934 hy was voorheen van Leliefontein. Hy trou met Martha Catharina Lombaard sy is gebore 30 Jul 1854 op Riebeeck Kasteel en gedoop in die Swartland gemeente op 24 Sep 1854.Sy is oorlede op 30 Nov 1903 en begrawe in Malmesbury se ou begrafplaas.
Haar sterfberig soos volg.
Overleden op den 30sten Oct, mijn teedergeliefde Echtgenoote Martha Catharina Basson, geb. Lombard, in den ouderdom van 49 jaren en drie maanden. Tevens wensch ik hiermede de Doctoren Roux en Malan, al die overige famlie betrekengin, vrienden en vriendinnen hartelijk te bedanken, die mij met raad en daad geholpen hebben gedurende haar ziekbed.
Die steeds bedroefde Echtgenoot. Steph. F. Basson Leliefontein, distrik Malmesbury 10 November 1903
Groete Annemie Lourens
Boodskap 2. Basson en Louw Posted by: "Annemie Lourens" [email protected] annemielourens Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:21 am (PST)
Goeiedag Lede
Ek is op soek na inligting van die volgende egpaar. Pieter Abraham Basson gebore 6 Aug 1822 gedoop in Swartland gemeente op 8 Sep 1822. Hy trou met Maria Hendrika Louw op 25 Apr 1842. Maria Hendrika Louw is gebore op 6 Aug 1822 en gedoop in Swartland gemeente op 4 Dec 1825. Pieter Abraham Basson se ouers is Matthys Michielse Basson en Elsie van der Westhuizen.
Groete Annemie Lourens
Boodskap 3. Basson en Smuts Posted by: "Annemie Lourens" [email protected] annemielourens Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:30 am (PST)
Goeiedag Lede
Ek is ook op soek na inligting van die volgende egpaar. Johannes Mathys Michiel Basson trou 12 Mar 1849 met Hester Anna Smuts gebore 16 Nov 1828. Sy is die dogter van Michiel Nicolaas Smuts en Maria Magdalena van der Byl.
Groete Annemie Lourens
Boodskap 4. Bresler en Basson Posted by: "Annemie Lourens" [email protected] annemielourens Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:38 am (PST)
Goeiedag lede.
Ek soek ook inligting van die volgende egpaar. Michiel Nicolaas Smuts Basson hy was getroud met Hester Maria Bresler, sy is die dogter van Casparus Bresler gebore op 24 Jan 1819 en Hilletjie Anna Geertruida du Toit gebore op 13 Oct 1827.
Groete Annemie Lourens
Boodskap 5a. Begrafnisbrief Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:44 am (PST)
Middag Vriende,
Ek het 'n BB van die volgende Baba op Fotki geplaas.
Botha, Henru * 18/01/2008 + 24/01/2008. Diens uit die NG Kerk, Driehoek, Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Diens gelei deur {Ds} Johnny Young van die NH Gemeente Vanderbijlpark-Suid, 26/01/2008.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut, Vanderbijlpark.
Boodskap 6a. re Flatbed scanner Posted by: "Petrus Schoeman" [email protected] petrusschoeman Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:53 am (PST)
Hallo vriende,
Dalk kan iemand help ek benodig "die twee drywer Cd's vir 'n Vuego - Brisa 640U scanner" ek het myne op 'n manier verloor.
Kan iemand help met kopiëe of met die adres van 'n plaaslike verskaffer?
Baie dankie Groete Petrus van Majuba.
Boodskap 6b. Re: re Flatbed scanner Posted by: "MeerkatB" [email protected] meerkat2s Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:57 am (PST)
Hallo, Petrus
Jy kan gewoonlik Google en die drywers weer opspoor om af te laai. 'n Vinnige Google het my hierdie webwerf gegee: http://www.driverfiles.net/Scanners/Vuego/vuego-scan-brisa- 640/download/page,sh,11561,596,11,.html
Groete uit Suid-Ontario, Kanada! Marlene / Meerkat
Boodskap 7. Re Flatbed scanner Posted by: "Eben Vorster" [email protected] ebenlouisvorster Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:01 am (PST)
Hi Petrus en andere
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Boodskap 8a. Re: Guilliam Johannes Oberholster Geb 1816 Posted by: "Janet Melville" [email protected] jmelvillexsinetcoza Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:37 am (PST)
Bedoel jy die inligting is verkeerd of die datums is verkeerd, indien die datums sal jy sien dit is *?? wat beteken die datums is geraai todat die doop opgespoor kan word. Met wie het jou oupa Grootjie Jan Valetyn getroud?
Dankie Janet
Posbus 15215 Emerald Hill PE 6011 083 642 7744 H/Faks: 041 3792077 Researching: van der Merwe, Melville, Rudman, William Reynolds, Van Lingen and East Cape families
Boodskap 8b. Re: Guilliam Johannes Oberholster Geb 1816 Posted by: "Johan" [email protected] oobee25 Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:16 am (PST)
Hi Janet
Net die datums is verkeerd vir die laaste 3 kinders, Martha in 1874 and Jan Valentyn en Pieter Coenraad (tweeling) op 22/6/1878, Hy is op 14/4/1978 op Jan Kempdorp oorlede.
Hy was met Dorothea Catharina Jansen van Rensburg getroud, ek het reeds meeste van haar familie.
Leer maar nog die kodes, het nie geweet van die "*" nie.
Groete
Johan
Boodskap 9a. Re: VILJOEN Inligting Posted by: "Janet Melville" [email protected] jmelvillexsinetcoza Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:37 am (PST)
Johanna Malan is sy nie dalk die een in die Malan boek p 924 gebore 18.11.1845 gebore Winburg.
Janet Melville Posbus 15215 Emerald Hill PE 6011 083 642 7744 H/Faks: 041 3792077 Researching: van der Merwe, Melville, Rudman, William Reynolds, Van Lingen and East Cape families
Boodskap 10a. Gesoek: BASSON, CP x STEYN, MJ (*1848) Posted by: "Johann Ahlers" [email protected] jahlers1 Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:31 am (PST)
Beste Lyslede,
Kan iemand dalk help om iets by hierdie legkaart te voeg?
Ek het die ouers van BASSON, Barbara Magdalena (1870-1947) heel vermoedelik as:
BASSON, Christiaan Petrus x STEYN, Maria Johanna (1848-onbekend). Sy was skynbaar b2c6d1e4 in die STEYN- familie. Haar ouers was Gabriel Hendrik Pieter STEYN (1823-1852) en Barbara Magdalena LOMBARD (1829 - voor 1886). Laasgenoemde lyk na b3c6d7e5f1 in die LOMBARD-familie.
Kan iemand dalk help om CP BASSON in die BASSON-familie van die Swartland te plaas? Dit wil my lyk dat hy waarskynlik in die 1840's gebore is.
Baie dankie by voorbaat! Johann Ahlers Pretoria
Boodskap 10b. Re: Gesoek: BASSON, CP x STEYN, MJ (*1848) Posted by: "Gert Schepers" [email protected] gertschepers Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:16 pm (PST)
Hallo Johan al wat ek het oor Swartland
Alexander van Breda * 01 01 1850 = Swartland 31 03 1850 H Mooimaak, Malmesbury 07 10 1930, boer, Mooimaak x Swartland 16 04 1883 Hilletje Johanna BASSON * *Rustfontein, distrik Malmesbury* c 1852 H Seeberg, Langebaan 31 01 1940 d v Matthys Basson en Anna Christina NN
Maar Annemie Lourens, Johan van Breda en Dawid le Roux en ook Adelberg het die meeste inligting oor Bassons
Groete
G E R T S C H E P E R S VANDERBIJLPARK [email protected]
Boodskap 10c. Re: Gesoek: BASSON, CP x STEYN, MJ (*1848) Posted by: "Johann Ahlers" [email protected] jahlers1 Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:20 pm (PST)
Dankie aan Ann en Gert! Sal maar bly voortsoek. Adelbert en Annemie het my beide reeds voorheen al baie gehelp.
Groete, Johann
Boodskap 10d. Re: Gesoek: BASSON, CP x STEYN, MJ (*1848) Posted by: "Annemie Lourens" [email protected] annemielourens Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:21 pm (PST)
Hello Johan
Ek het net so min inligting oor die CP Basson as jy iets kry laat my asb weet. Ek het glad nie sy ouers se name nie. Al wat ek het is dat hulle getroud is op 11 Feb 1870. MJ Steyn is gebore op 18 Jul 1848 alhoewel haar graf haar geboorte jaar gee as 1847. Sy is oorlede op 15 May 1892 en begrawe in Malmesbury se begrafplaas, jy sal die foto van die graf kry in eGGSA se bib op die net. Ek het ook haar ouers soos jy dit het. Haar ma is van die Leliefontein se Lombards.
Groete Annemie Lourens
Boodskap 10e. Re: Gesoek: BASSON, CP x STEYN, MJ (*1848) Posted by: "Johann Ahlers" [email protected] jahlers1 Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:23 pm (PST)
Dankie, Annemie - altyd wonderlik om sulke bevestiging te kry - al beteken dit ook net dat ons nou saam verder bly soek!
Vriendelike groete, Johann
Boodskap 10f. Re: Gesoek: BASSON, CP x STEYN, MJ (*1848) Posted by: "Annemie Lourens" [email protected] annemielourens Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:31 pm (PST)
Hello Gert
Ek het presies dieselfde inligting as wat jy het van Alexander van Breda en Hilletje Johanna BASSON, maar ek het nie hul kinders se name nie. Jy het nie dalk die kinders se name nie. Miskien kan ek uit die kinders se name leidrade kry.
Groete Annemie Lourens
Boodskap 11a. (no subject) Posted by: "Dik Groenhuizen" [email protected] dikgroenhuizen Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:13 pm (PST)
Beste genealogiecollega`s deze vraag werd mij toegestuurd:
Heeft iemand informatie over een Cornelis Moolenbeek (B: 1885) die naar Zuid Afrika (Bethal) geemigreerd is?
Rob Moolenbeek bij voorbaat hartelijk dank, Baie dankie vr. groeten Dik
Boodskap 11b. Re: (unknown) Posted by: "Daniel Jacobs" [email protected] Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:37 pm (PST)
Beste Dik
Jammer, maar daar is geen inligting oor hom in Jan Ploeger se *Nederlandse Emigrasie na Suid-Afrika 1800-1900*, Port Elizabeth, 1989 nie.
Groete
Daniel Jacobs www.gendata.co.za
Boodskap 11c. Re: (unknown) Posted by: "Dik groenhuizen" [email protected] dikgroenhuizen Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:36 pm (PST)
Daniel baie dankie voor het antwoord, ik heb het al doorgestuurd naar Rob Molenbeek
Groetnis Dik http://groups.msn.com/Genealogen-Palace/homepage http://groups.msn.com/Oude-Kerkboeken/homepage doop-huwelijk-lidmaten enz. o.a. Zoutpansberg, Oudshoorn, Pretoria http://groups.msn.com/Exintus-Persona familieberichten o.a. die Beeld, Die Burger, Mercury
Boodskap 12. [Koerant] Sunday Tribune 27 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:33 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:- " Assert your right to make a few mistakes. If people can't accept your imperfections, that's their fault." Dr David M. BURNS. & "Be joyful. Because it is humanly possible." - Wendell BERRY .
GEBOORTES:- ANDREW~ BURMEISTER Peter & Tiffany 'n seun Noah-Connor * ? in Parklands Hospitaal. Kleinkind vir Judy, Mick, Pam en Barry.
OWENS nee LOWEN Michael & Cara 'n seun Keane *15/01/2008 in Parklands. Boetie vir Keira.
TUCKER - GILL Bronwyn & Matthew 'n seun Keegan *25/01/2008 .in Parklands. Kleinkind vir Aprille & Lindsay.
VERLOWINGS:- BOUWER -COURTNEY Rod & Bev se dogter Candice aan Bryan, seun van Reg & Cynthia.
CONNELL - VAN BALLEGOOYEN Kim & Damon.
SCOWBY-PAYN Graham & Yvonne se dogter Penny-Ray aan Steven, seun van John & Anne.
HUWELIK:- MEYER Bernice & + Claude se seun Justin x 18 Jan. 2008 met Bronwyn, dogter van Eugene & Rita SMITH tuis in WATERFALL.
DOOD:- ANDERSON nee MITCHLEY Joan + 12/01/2008 in Oudthoorn x Brian vir 37 jaar. TEL: Brian 0761054688.
BOSSE Bob + 24/01/2008 . Simpatie aan familie. Vriend van John en Phyllis.
BUTLER Eric Thomas + 19/01/2008 . Ingesit deur Marge & Denise.
CARDINAL Cyril. Simpatie aan Pauline en familie van Berea Bowling Club.
GRIEVESON Gerald Joseph + 22/01/2008 (tragies) in JHB. Broer van Jack en Colleen. Oom van Sandy, Grant, Lee en Shane en hulle kleintjies.Broer en oom . Simpatie aan Robin en familie van Rob, & Moy, Andrew, Cherry en Garry.
JACOB Bama van Asherville. Begrafnis op 27/01/2008 by Christ Kingdom Ministries Brickfield Rd om 1.30 nm -2.30nm . Daarna na Kenilworth Begraafplaas vir diens daar om 3nm.
JOHN Greg + 20/01/2008 . Broer van Peter, Sandra en familie.
LESTER Gwendoline . Vrou ,Ma en ouma. Begrafnis diens by Queensburgh Congregational Church Malvern op 28/01/2008 om 3.30 nm Verassing privaat. Ingesit deur SHANLEY'S. 031 2057644.
MALAN Peter Richard 1934 -----2008. Man, Pa en oupa van Gail, Lara, Tanya, Anton en families. Memorial by Berea Rovers Club ,langs Kings Park Durban 29/01/2008 om 2nm.
MILAN Pete . Will miss my SA Bru- a great mate. Condolences to Gail, Lara, Tanya en Anton -Loges.
MARRIOTT Julie 23/02/1921 -----21/01/2008 x + Jack . Ma, skoonma en ouma van Lorraine, Andy, Basil, Ian en al die familie. Begrafnis 30/01/2008 om 3nm by Umhlanga Baptiste Kerk. Verassing privaat later. Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH Durban 031-2059959.
MCGLONE Dorothy Eileen (Tam) + 22/01/2008 x + Eric. Ma van Sheldon en Pam, Ouma van Michael en Andrew.; Ma en ouma van Peter& Debbie, Ouma van Christopher , Kim, Tracy, Warren en Marc en Oumagroot van Samantha en Keegan. Requiem Mass by Immaculate Conception Katolieke Kerk Pinetown op 29/01/2008 om 11 vm. Ingesit deur BELL Funerals.
MORRIS Michael Robin. + 22/01/2008. Sal gemis word deur Rob, Roger, Trafford en vriende by Cold Tea Cantina. Siimpatie aan Wendy en familie.
NEL Sandra 1953 ----24/01/2008 in Bulawayo. Suster van Kathy en Christine ,skoonsus van Toby en Ma van Carl.
RICHARDS nee HAUPT Theresa + 17/01/2008 in Noord Carolina USA x George (Pinney) .Ma van Melanie BOWEN, Brett (Rene) en Lisa CHEAIB (Ali). Ouma van Jade, Zachary, Chezlin, Kaylin en Jenna. Suster van + Aubrey (Chiffy) , + Desmond, (Louise) , Basil (Joan), Marina CROWIE (Desmond) , Danny (Sharon), Cyril (Jeanette), + Ivan (Helen) , Melvyn , Leon, + Ashley , Clive (Cheryl) en + Ursula . Sy het van Addington Hospitaal afgetree na 33 jaar. 14 jaar gelede na USA gegaan .
WATERS Jack + 22/01/2008. Pa van Rosann. Oupa van Gregory, Nicolyn, Kevin, Matthew, Tamrin. Oumagroot van Kirsten Rose. Geen diens op versoek.
MEMORIAM:- BUSS Bryan . 3jaar dood nou . Was 61 jaar oud. Onthou deur Joyce en familie.
DE JAGER Jake Tredoux .Onthou deur Ma.
DELPAUL Robert x Bernie.
GALLAGHER Lindy-Lou 13 jaar dood nou van familie.
KING Keegan (Brad ). 1 jaar dood nou. Saam met sy ma en broer. Onthou deur Candice en Pa van Noah.Ook onthou deur BOTHA familie, Man ,pa en vriend van Cheyenne en Shelley ,Ook van Ma en Cheyenne .
MAIN-BAILLIE nee MURRAY Lynette + 26/01/2008. Onthou deur Pa en Diana, Ook van sielsgenoot Rob en Ma.
MANION SHAUN COLENSO. 27/12/1977 -----27/01/2000. Onthou deur Ma en Carla.
NASSIEP Frances (Fawzia) + 27/01/2004 .Ma van Shahida , Jimmy en familie.
REITZ Japie 04/02/1941 ----27/01/2007 Onhou deur Rita.
SINK Harold 24/06/1911---26/01/2005. Man,pa en oupa van Bea en familie.
DANKIE:- BLISS Harold + 7/01/2008 . Dankie aan Personeel by SPAR Westville vir hulp aan my man. en bedagsaamheid teen oor my in die moeilike tyd.Ook aan Michelle vir ondersteuning en NETCARE se "Paramedicks" Van Ann BLISS.
Gegroet uit Warm Durban. Rita Quebbemann.
Boodskap 13a. [Koerant] The Mercury Maandag 28Jan. 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:08 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:- " All of us could take a lesson from the weather. It pays no attention to criticism." ANON.
Hierdie vir ons in SA belangrik:- BOTTOM LINE:-" I shall make electricity so cheap that only the rich can afford to burn candles." Thomas Alva EDISON.
VERJAARSDAG :- ROBERTS Lee . 21 jaar oud van Marcele, Susan ,Meleece en Carryn.
DOOD:-HEAVEN Stan + 21/01/2008 x Shirley. Pa van Graeme, Judy (Alistair) , Tony ( Karin), Lou (Eric) en oupa van 12.
HEISS Roland 6/10/1946 ----25/01/2008 x Deidre. Pa van Martin , Gabi en Richard. Swaer van Bill en Val. Oom van Drew en Sarah, Angela ,Andrew en Vicki.
LOWES Janine Lee 27/08/1965 ---25/01/2008 . Dogter van Des & Denise SUTHERLAND.Ma van Jared. Suster van Shaun en Lynette en fam. Memorial by Christ Church Pinetown op 30 /01/2008. Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH 031 205995.
PASQUALLIE Don + 27/01/2008 in Motor ongeluk naby Bredasdorp om 0600 vm. General Deputy Secretary of SA Democratic Teachers Union.(SADTU).
SMITH Ricky . Simpatie aan Karen. Van Stan & Nola.
VAN DER WALT Joan Irene + 25/01/2008 . Suster, skoonsus en tannie van Keith, Pat, Gary, Kerry , Carla, Sam en die BECKS, SEPPING En STANTON Families.
MEMORIAM:- BECKX Eugene .8 jaar dood nou x Edith . Pa en oupa.
MCNELLAN Connie Gilbert . 23 jaar dood nou. Pa, skoonpa van Neels en Margaret.
POOKE Dulcie + 28/01/1987 Ingesit deur man (sonder naam)
SAMUEL Hamit ( Harry) .10 jaar dood nou. Pa van Simone.
STANBURY Peter Charles 04/07/1941---28/01/2006 van Janice , Railton ,Anita en familie.
TOMLINSON Doreen .5 jaar dood nou. Ma, ouma en oumagroot van Gerry, Yves, Regan en familie.
WILKINSON Mary. Van Michael.
Gegroet uit alreeds WARM en Bedompige Durban , Rita Q.
Boodskap 13b. [Koerant] The Mercury Maandag 28Jan. 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:08 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:- " All of us could take a lesson from the weather. It pays no attention to criticism." ANON.
Hierdie vir ons in SA belangrik:- BOTTOM LINE:-" I shall make electricity so cheap that only the rich can afford to burn candles." Thomas Alva EDISON.
VERJAARSDAG :- ROBERTS Lee . 21 jaar oud van Marcele, Susan ,Meleece en Carryn.
DOOD:-HEAVEN Stan + 21/01/2008 x Shirley. Pa van Graeme, Judy (Alistair) , Tony ( Karin), Lou (Eric) en oupa van 12.
HEISS Roland 6/10/1946 ----25/01/2008 x Deidre. Pa van Martin , Gabi en Richard. Swaer van Bill en Val. Oom van Drew en Sarah, Angela ,Andrew en Vicki.
LOWES Janine Lee 27/08/1965 ---25/01/2008 . Dogter van Des & Denise SUTHERLAND.Ma van Jared. Suster van Shaun en Lynette en fam. Memorial by Christ Church Pinetown op 30 /01/2008. Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH 031 205995.
PASQUALLIE Don + 27/01/2008 in Motor ongeluk naby Bredasdorp om 0600 vm. General Deputy Secretary of SA Democratic Teachers Union.(SADTU).
SMITH Ricky . Simpatie aan Karen. Van Stan & Nola.
VAN DER WALT Joan Irene + 25/01/2008 . Suster, skoonsus en tannie van Keith, Pat, Gary, Kerry , Carla, Sam en die BECKS, SEPPING En STANTON Families.
MEMORIAM:- BECKX Eugene .8 jaar dood nou x Edith . Pa en oupa.
MCNELLAN Connie Gilbert . 23 jaar dood nou. Pa, skoonpa van Neels en Margaret.
POOKE Dulcie + 28/01/1987 Ingesit deur man (sonder naam)
SAMUEL Hamit ( Harry) .10 jaar dood nou. Pa van Simone.
STANBURY Peter Charles 04/07/1941---28/01/2006 van Janice , Railton ,Anita en familie.
TOMLINSON Doreen .5 jaar dood nou. Ma, ouma en oumagroot van Gerry, Yves, Regan en familie.
WILKINSON Mary. Van Michael.
Gegroet uit alreeds WARM en Bedompige Durban , Rita Q.
Boodskap 14a. Smit getroud met Maartens en van der Merwe Posted by: "Johan Pottas" [email protected] pottasjj Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:38 pm (PST)
Dag almal
Kan iemand my dalk help met die ouers van Hendrina Magdalena Maartens en ook dalk met meer korrekte datums as my geskatte datums?
Groete
Family Group Record ======Husband: Francois Alewyn SMIT ------Birth: 1787 Chr: 21 Oct 1787 Swartland, Wes-Kaap Death: Burial: Marriage: 20 Sep 1812 Graaff-Reinet, Oos-Kaap Father: Francois Alewyn SMIT (b 1766) Mother: Cecilia Jacomina OBERHOLSTER (b 1766) Other spouse: Aletta Sophia VAN DER MERWE (m 22 Nov 1807) ======Wife: Hendrina Magdalena MAARTENS ------Birth: abt 1794 Death: 6 Jan 1852 Burial: ======Children ======1 M Abraham Johannes SMIT Birth: 18 May 1822 Graaff-Reinet, Oos-Kaap Chr: 10 Nov 1822 Graaff-Reinet, Oos-Kaap Death: Burial: Marriage: ======Prepared 28 Jan 2008 by: Johan Jacob Pottas Posbus 34559 Faunasig Bloemfontein 9325 051-5227329 / 0825693727 ======FAMILY NOTES Marriage(1):
HUSBAND NOTES: Francois Alewyn SMIT Chr(2,1): General: Hy is getroud met Aletta Sophia van der Merwe, = 11/04/1788. Sy is die dogter van Roelof van der Merwe en Maria Magdalena van der Berg.
WIFE NOTES: Hendrina Magdalena MAARTENS Birth(1): Death(1):
CHILD NOTES: Abraham Johannes SMIT Birth: (KAB VC677) NGK, ten tye van sy geboorte is sy ouers woonagtig in die veldkornetskap van veldkornet JC Pretorius. Chr: (KAB VC677) NGK, as getuies teken Hendrik van den Berg, Maria Magdalena Gouws en Johannes Lodewikus Maarten.
SOURCES 1. Smit Ron. 2. C.C. de Villiers Reworked and rewritten by C. Pama. Genealogies of Old S.A. Families: Vol II N-Z. A A Balkema, Cape Town, Amsterdam, 1966. p889.
Johan J Pottas Rekensentrum UV Tel: +27-51-401-2767 werk Tel: +27-51-522-7329 huis Tel: +27-82-569-3727 sel Faks: +27-51-401-2765 werk Posbus 34559, Faunasig, 9325
Boodskap 14b. Re: Smit getroud met Maartens en van der Merwe Posted by: "Elizabeth Oberholster" [email protected] lizoberholster Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:59 pm (PST)
Hallo Johan.
Jong, volgens my was Cecilia Jacomina 'n Pretorius. Sy is gebore 1766, en gedoop 14 Sep 1766. Haar ma was Johanna Sophia Oberholster, geb 1759, en gedoop 25 Feb 1759. Sy is getroud met Johannes Lodewicus Pretorius, geb 1749, gedoop 21 Sep 1749, en getroud 12 Feb 1775.
Dit antwoord nie jou direkte vraag nie, maar stel 'n ander rekord dalk reg!
Beste
Liz Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3085
Datum: Monday, January 28, 2008
Daar is 1 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1. Verlore Genealogie Notas.. From: Viljoen, HC Boodskap 1. Verlore Genealogie Notas.. Posted by: "Viljoen, HC " [email protected] hc_viljoen Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:38 am (PST)
Beste SAGenealoë
Etienne Botha van Adelaide, Australië het die onderstaande e-pos aan GISA se Hoofnavorser, Leon Endemann, geskryf. Laasgenoemde het op sy beurt vir my gevra om dit op SAGenealogie te plaas in die verwagting dat die wettige eienaars opgespoor kan word.
Vriendelike groete Christo Viljoen
> Beste Leon, > > Ons het in laat 2000 van Stellenbosch na Australië verhuis. Ons het `n maatskappy met die naam > '> Demspster Removals> '> gebruik wat iewers in die Bellville gebied gevestig was. Hulle het intussen bankrot geraak, en ons het van ons besittings in die proses verloor, asook baie geld want ons moes vooruit betaal vir die trek. > > Ons het tussen ons besissitings twee CNA notaboeke gekry met die stamboom inligting van James Kilgour Ainslie BOTHA. Die stamboom lyk na die Bothas van die Bron in die Boland, asook die van George. Daar is `n paar familie fotos en en baie notas in die boeke, en ek heg `n afskrif aan van bladsy 1 aan om identifikasie te vergemaklik. > > Ons het van Dempster in hul laaste dae van besigheid verneem dat die boeke moontlik aan Bothas wat na New Zealand verhuis het behoort, en dat ons trekgoed deurmekaar geraak het. Ek doen self genealogie navorsing, en ek weet hoe kosbaar die inligting is, en ek sal graag die boeke aan hulle wil terug besorg. Kan julle dalk so gaaf wees en `n beriggie daaroor plaas, en uitvind of iemand hulle ken, en die adres kan aanstuur? > > As julle kan help om die notaboeke aan hulle terug te besorg sal die fantasties wees. > > Beste groete> > <
Datum: Tuesday, January 29, 2008
Daar is 26 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. subscribe From: Maryke
2a. Greyling Familie in SA From: Adélle Jerling
2b. Re: Greyling Familie in SA From: Marlene (Meerkat) Spies
3a. Verlore Genealogie Notas.. From: cgviljoen
3b. Re: Verlore Genealogie Notas.. From: Dennis Laptop
3c. Re: Verlore Genealogie Notas.. From: Dennis Laptop
3d. Re: Verlore Genealogie Notas.. From: Ferdie
3e. Re: Verlore Genealogie Notas.. From: Arend Brink
3f. Re: Verlore Genealogie Notas.. From: Maryke
3g. Re: Verlore Genealogie Notas.. From: Dennis Laptop
4a. Potch Plaas - Blesbokfontein From: J van der Grijp
4b. Re: Potch Plaas - Blesbokfontein From: Jorge Estreux
4c. Re: Potch Plaas - Blesbokfontein From: SANTA ELS
4d. Re: Potch Plaas - Blesbokfontein From: Jorge Estreux
5.1. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
6. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg From: Peet & Mari Mostert
7. [koerant]Die Republikein 2008.01.28 From: Louis Olivier
8. BURGER/STOOP STANDERTON KONSENTRASIE KAMP From: Gene Milton
9. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 25 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
10. EIKENHOF BEGRAFPLAAS From: Gene Milton
11. NG gemeentes in Kaapstad From: cgviljoen
12. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 26 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
13. (Koerant) Beeld 28 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
14a. Re: Gesoek: BASSON, CP x STEYN, MJ (*1848) From: Johan van Breda
15. Afsterwe Skoonmoeder: Helena (Gebore) DIEDERIKS From: Par Excellance
16. Verlore notas en familiebybels From: Dennis Laptop Boodskap 1a. subscribe Posted by: "Maryke" [email protected] mdeflam Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:52 am (PST)
Boodskap 2a. Greyling Familie in SA Posted by: "Adélle Jerling" [email protected] senekalgen Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:10 am (PST)
Weet iemand hoe ek met H de W Louw kan kontak aangaande die Greyling register? Ek wil baie graag 'n bydrae maak vir die uitbreiding van nog 'n lyn.
ADéLLE JERLING Sel: 072 920 0788
Familienavorsing in SENEKAL, JERLING, GREYLING, ELOFF, KLEINHANS, CRUYWAGEN, VAN DER LINDE
Boodskap 2b. Re: Greyling Familie in SA Posted by: "Marlene (Meerkat) Spies" [email protected] meerkat2s Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:10 am (PST)
Hallo, Adelle,
EK antwoord jou direk (van lys af).
Groetnis uit Kanada! Marlene
~~~~ My Genealogie en Navorsing: ZIEHL {b6c1d2} x NORTJE OF NORTIER {b3c5d6e6f1g2h9}, VAN DER WALT {b4c1d3e4f?g?h1i2}; KRUGER {b7c4d6e9}; SCOTT {b3c7}; SENEKAL {b1c1d2e2f3g5h2}; STRYDOM {b4c3d2e5f4g1h10}, KROG {b8c1d2}
Boodskap 3a. Verlore Genealogie Notas.. Posted by: "cgviljoen" [email protected] frost_clan Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:25 am (PST)
Wel, mens kan net so ‘n ou bewonder, dat hy met al die drama wat hy deurgegaan het nog tyd maak om die eienaar op te spoor van dié genealogiese notas.. Kille gedagte vir wanneer mens self trek, natuurlik. Ek het elke slag self al my fotos, genealogiese inligting en rekenaar vervoer, maar as mens emigreer, raak dit natuurlik onmoontlik..
Dan moet dit ook nog ‘n Botha wees. Maar natuurlik sal daar minder van hulle in NZ en Austr wees as hier. Hoop julle vind hom, Christo!
Groete Susan
Susan Viljoen Alberton, South Africa/Suid-Afrika Licensed Scrap-ther-a-P™ Memory Healing Practitioner Licence no 11/010/16
Boodskap 3b. Re: Verlore Genealogie Notas.. Posted by: "Dennis Laptop" [email protected] dennis_pretorius Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:47 am (PST)
Hallo Christo
Kilgour is nie 'n baie bekende naam nie maar kom wel enkele kere in die SCOTT van in Suid Afrika voor - maar nie in kombinasie met james nie en ook nie met 'n BOTHA gekoppel nie.
Die enigste James Kilgour wat ek in my databasis het is ene james Kilgour TRAIN s/v Thomas Blyth TRAIN en Helen Elizabeth SCOTT. Ek weet nie iets meer van Helen Elizabeth SCOTT se voorsate nie , maar daar is seker 'n skakel iewers met Lawrence Kilgour SCOTT
Nie van baie hulp nie maar miskien erken iemand tog iets wat kan help
Groetnis
Dennis Pretorius, Krugersdorp, South Africa/Suid Afrika Executive Member of GSSA / Uitvoerende Lid van GGSA Genealogical Researcher/Genealogiese Navorser Owner of SAGenealogy E-mail list/Lyseienaar - SAGenealogie poslys E-Mail/E-pos: [email protected] Web address/Webadres: http://mzone.mweb.co.za/residents/k75/genealogy.html Telephone/Telefoon: +27-83-679-8541 Fax/Faks +27-86-609-8541
Boodskap 3c. Re: Verlore Genealogie Notas.. Posted by: "Dennis Laptop" [email protected] dennis_pretorius Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:16 pm (PST)
Hallo Christo
James Kilgour Ainslie Botha woon waarskynlik in Knysna - hy was 'n kandidaat in die Plaaslike Verkiesing in Knysna in 2006. Ek sien ook op die www e-posse ivm genealogie wat no James verwys as "the family genealogist" - dit moet jou man wees !!
Ek stuur vir jou meer besonderhede van hom na jou eie e-pos adres
Groetnis
Dennis Pretorius, Krugersdorp, South Africa/Suid Afrika Executive Member of GSSA / Uitvoerende Lid van GGSA Genealogical Researcher/Genealogiese Navorser Owner of SAGenealogy E-mail list/Lyseienaar - SAGenealogie poslys E-Mail/E-pos: [email protected] Web address/Webadres: http://mzone.mweb.co.za/residents/k75/genealogy.html Telephone/Telefoon: +27-83-679-8541 Fax/Faks +27-86-609-8541
Boodskap 3d. Re: Verlore Genealogie Notas.. Posted by: "Ferdie" [email protected] ferdie_van_wyk Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:41 pm (PST)
Goeienaand Dennis,
Nee man, julle kan nie nou die saak van die lys af neem nie!!! Ons wag in spanning om te verneem wat verder gebeur. Gaan die dokumente by die regte eienaar uitkom? groete
Ferdie van Wyk Die van Wyks van Tarka en die Van der Walts van Colesberg. Doringkloof, Centurion. 082-556-8031
Boodskap 3e. Re: Verlore Genealogie Notas.. Posted by: "Arend Brink" [email protected] brinkfamily2000 Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:36 pm (PST)
More julle, hier in NZ verskyn daar 'n weeklikse elektroniese nuusbrief. Ek stel voor rig 'n epos aan hulle dat daar na die Botha's gesoek word. Indien die familie wel in NZ is sal die mense dit sien of vriende sal hulle laat weet.
Die email adres waarna dit gestuur kan word is: [email protected] groete Arend Auckland
Boodskap 3f. Re: Verlore Genealogie Notas.. Posted by: "Maryke" [email protected] mdeflam Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:40 pm (PST)
Goeiemore,
Ek stem saam met Ferdi - wil graag sien hoe hierdie saak vorder. Ek het selfs die inligting deurgestuur Perth toe na my Botha familie daar om te verneem of hulle nie dalk lig kan werp op die saak nie. Hulle het min of meer dieselfde tyd vanaf Stellenbosch na Aus geimmigreer, alhoewel die voorname Marthinus Christoffel is.
Groete, Maryke de Flamingh
Boodskap 3g. Re: Verlore Genealogie Notas.. Posted by: "Dennis Laptop" [email protected] dennis_pretorius Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:00 pm (PST)
Hallo Maryke en Ferdie
Ek het die BOTHA-man se waarskynlike adres en kontakbesonderhede na Christo en Leon deurgestuur.
Kom ons vra hulle om ons te laat weet of dit die regte man is - hulle kan ons op die poslys laat weet hoe die saak vorder !
Groetnis
Dennis Pretorius, Krugersdorp, South Africa/Suid Afrika Executive Member of GSSA / Uitvoerende Lid van GGSA Genealogical Researcher/Genealogiese Navorser Owner of SAGenealogy E-mail list/Lyseienaar - SAGenealogie poslys E-Mail/E-pos: [email protected] Web address/Webadres: http://mzone.mweb.co.za/residents/k75/genealogy.html Telephone/Telefoon: +27-83-679-8541 Fax/Faks +27-86-609-8541
Boodskap 4a. Potch Plaas - Blesbokfontein Posted by: "J van der Grijp" [email protected] jacquesvdg Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:23 am (PST)
Goeiedag almal.
Ek is opsoek na die plaas Blesbokfontein naby Potch. Kan iemand my dalk inlig oor waar die plaas is?
Vriendelike Groete Jacques van der Grijp 079 878 5625
Boodskap 4b. Re: Potch Plaas - Blesbokfontein Posted by: "Jorge Estreux" [email protected] jorgeestreux Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:58 am (PST)
Jacques,
Ek was so baie jare laas daar. Op die pad tussen Potch en Ventersdorp draai mens links na Blesbokfontein. Daar is so n gemeenskapsaal op linkerhand. n Bree grondpad toe ek laas daar was.. daar was ook n Goewermentskool Blesbokfontein 15 waar my pa skoolgegaan het tot standerd 6 (1934). Ek het nog sy sertifikaat.
Gert
Boodskap 4c. Re: Potch Plaas - Blesbokfontein Posted by: "SANTA ELS" [email protected] santa_els Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:13 am (PST)
Hallo Jacques
Blesbokfontein is tussen Ventersdorp en Potchefstroom. Draai regs by Dovesdale en dan links so ongeveer 3 Km verder. Die skool is op linkerkant, met 'n blou dak. Die van den Berg begraafplaas waar my pa groot geword het is by die volgende koordinate: 26,959025 E of 26'57'30,7E en 26,4061855S of 26'24'15,6 S
Ek en Simon du Plooy het so 3 weke gelede die begraafplaas gaan afneem asook die Pretorius grafte. Soek jy iemand spesifiek?
Groete
Santa Els Potchefstroom (018)2973344 0836555837 [email protected]
Barend Petrus van den Berg_1824 / Roets Els / Bezuidenhout / Steyn / Coertze
Boodskap 4d. Re: Potch Plaas - Blesbokfontein Posted by: "Jorge Estreux" [email protected] jorgeestreux Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:47 am (PST)
Santa en Jacques,
In die omgewing is daar n begraafplaas aan die pad (op n plaas).. My oom Hendrik Johannes Esterhuizen is daar in Mei 1975 begrawe. Indien jy dalk op sy graf afkom. Ek weet nie wie se plaas dit is nie, maar weet dis aan die groot grondpad. Blesbokfontein 15 was n Laerskool (wat destyds tot Gr8 gegaan het, daarna moes hulle Ventersdorp Hoerskool toe). My oupa se plaas was Modderfontein (dist. Ventersdorp) en Blesbokfontein moes dus binne bereikbare afstand gewees het.
Gert
Boodskap 5.1. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:38 am (PST)
p151 1867
Gedoopt 23 Aug 1867 op de plaats Enkelbosch Malietsieland
726 Jeremias Jesajas 24 Sep 1865
Moeder: Magrietha Jacoba BEZUIDENHOUT – NEL (weduwe)
Getuigen: Johannis Jacobus STRIJDOM (doopvader) en
Anna Johanna Catharina STRIJDOM – VAN EMMENES
Roelof Johannis STRIJDOM en
Christina Elizabetha STRIJDOM – NAGEL
Gedoopt op de plaats Sterkloop den 29 sten Aug 1867 districkt Zoutpansberg
727 Petrus Wilhelmus Stefanus 23 Aug 1867
Ouders: Gert Louwrens VAN EMMENES
Anna Jacoba VAN EMMENES – GEIJSER
Getuigen: Petrus Wilhemus GEIJSER en
Aletta Sofeia GEIJSER - .....TER
Philip SMIT en
Cornelia Geertruida SMIT- VAN EMMENES
Gedoopt Maraba’stad 1 Sept 1867
728 Adriaan Hendrik 13 Aug 1867
Ouders: Frans Johannis Jacobus DUPREE
Adriana Hendrina Aletta DUPREE – PRETORIUS
Getuigen: Philip Carel SMIT en
Catharina Geertruida SMIT – VAN EMMENES
Elsje Maria Magdalena COETZER – VAN EMMENES
Hendrik Adriaan HUTTINK
P 152
Gedoopt te Weltevrede Renosterpoort 5 Jan 1868
729 Dorothea Willemina 21 Sept 1867
Ouders: Adriaan Jacobus MARAIS en
Janetta Johanna Suzanna MARAIS – SMIT
Getuigen: Christiaan Hendrik Stefanus SMIT en
Dorothea Willemina SMIT – KLAASEN
Meinardt Adriaan Willem SMIT en
Margrieta Geertruida SMIT – PUTTER
730 Martinus Johannis Christoffel 13 Aug 1867
Ouders: Johannis Jacobus ROETS en
Suzara Frederika ROETS – POTGIETER
Getuigen: Willem Abraham GROBLER en
Esther Catharina GROBLER – POTGIETER
Pieter Paulus HUGO en
Magdalena Geertruida Willemina HUGO – ROETS
731 Johan Christiaan Jacobus 16 Dec 1867
Ouders: Jacobus Johannis POTGIETER en
Suzanna Margaretha ? POTGIETER - Joubert ?
Getuigen: Petrus Christoffel VERCUIEL en
Anna Elizabetha VERCUIEL – OLIVIER
Willem Abraham GROBLER en
Hester Catharina GROBLER – POTGIETER
732 Anna Jacoba 26 Sept 1867
Ouders: Hendrik François VENTER en
Jacoba Cornelia VENTER – GEIJSER
Getuigen: Philippus Johannis GEIJSER en
Cecilia Johanna GEIJSER – ELOF
Stefanus Martinus VENTER en
Hendrina Jacoba VENTER – DUVENAGE
P 153 1868
733 Aletta Maria 24 Dec 1867
Ouders: Jacobus Daniel VENTER en
Catharina Maria VENTER – DORFELING
Getuigen: Stefanus Johannes SCHOEMAN en
Suzanna Sofeia SCHOEMAN – DORFELING
David Schalk VAN DIJK en
Pieternella Johanna VAN DIJK – VENTER
734 Anna Sofeia Catharina 27 Sep 1867
Ouders: Jacobus Daniel VENTER en
Anna Sofeia Catharina VENTER – VENTER
Getuigen: Frans Johannis ELOF VAN DIJK en
Cornelia Pieternella VAN DIJK – BEZUIDENHOUT
Jacobus Daniel VENTER en
Catharina Maria VENTER – DORFELING
Gedoopt op de plaats Kalkbank Malietsieland den 12 Jan 1868
735 Johannes Arnoldus 30 Oct 1867
Ouders: Gerrit Petrus VAN WIJK en
Anna Maria Ariana VAN WIJK – BREEDT
Getuigen: Johannis Hendrik VAN WIJK en
Hendrina Cecilia Margrietha VAN WIJK – DUVENAGE
Lukas Augustinus BREEDT en
Martha Susara BREEDT – PRINSLO
736 Theunis Johannis 18 Dec 1867
Ouders: Johannis Hendrik VAN WIJK en
Hendrina Cecilia Margrieta VAN WIJK – DUVENAGE
Getuigen: Gerrit Petrus VAN WIJK en
Anna Maria Adriana VAN WIJK – BREEDT
Johannis Arnoldus BREEDT en
Gerharda Helena BREEDT – VAN WIJK
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER
Boodskap 6. Doopinskrywings Hervormde Kerk Zoutpansberg Posted by: "Peet & Mari Mostert" [email protected] amjmos Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:39 am (PST)
P 154
737 Christina Jacoba 13 Nov 1867
Ouders: Christiaan Arnoldus Carolus ROETS en
Anna Elizabetta ROETS – POTGIETER
Getuigen: Gert Willem SMIT en
Maria Margrieta SMIT – POTGIETER
Gerhardus Jacobus ROETS en
Martha Catharina ROETS – DE WET
738 Johanna Willemina Margrietha 29 Aug 1867
Ouders: Theunis Hassie DUVENAGE en
Johanna Willemina Margrietha DUVENAGE – SMIT
Getuigen: Georg Frederik SNIJMAN en
Magdalena Willemiena Margaretha SNIJMAN – BOTHA
Barend Christoffel DUVENAGE en
Elsje Magdalena DUVENAGE – DUVENAGE
Willem Jacobus PELTZER en
Margrieta PELTZER – JAKOBS
739 Abraham Petrus 10 Sept 1867
Ouders: Abraham Christiaan Johannes DUVENAGE en
Louisa Jacoba DUVENAGE – VAN HEERDEN
Getuigen: Abraham Petrus DUVENAGE en
Johanna Catharina DUVENAGE – JAKOBSE
Johannes Christoffel François DUVENAGE en
Suzanna Magdalena DUVENAGE
Gedoopt te Rotterdam 19 de Januarij 1868
740 Aletta Johanna Jacoba 10 Nov 1867
Ouders: Flip Stefanus JAKOBS en
Aletta Johanna Jacoba JAKOBS – KOETSER
Getuigen: Johannes Hermanus KOERTSER en
Elsje Catharina KOESTER – VENTER
Pieter Willem KOESTER p155
741 Edwin Ernst Anton 4 Oct 1867
Ouders: Jonkheer Reginald Alfonse VAN NISPEN en
Maria Magdalena Johanna VAN NISPEN – VAN EMMENES
Getuigen: Jonkheer Edwin Karel Lodewijk VAN NISPEN en
Wi. B. C. E. PROES
Anton Frederik SCHUBART
742 Jacoba Johanna Catharina 30 Dec 1867
Ouders: Michael Frederik DUVENAGE en
Jacoba Johanna Catharina DUVENAGE – DUVENAGE
Getuigen: Jacoba Johanna Catharina DUVENAGE – MINNAAR
Piet Francois ERASMUS en
Martha Magdalena Johanna ERASMUS – DUVENAGE
Flip Karel MINNAAR en
Maria Jacoba MINNAAR
743 Pieter Johannes Lodewijk 10 Sept 1867
Ouders: Pieter Johannes Lodewijk Jr VENTER en
Maria Isabella VENTER - DE KLERCK
Getuigen: Petrus Wilhelmus GEIJSER en
Aletta Sofeia GEIJSER – VENTER
Louwrens Christiaan DE KLERCK en
Jacomina DE KLERCK – SNIJMAN
744 Aletta Catharina Willemina 14 Nov 1867
Ouders: David Benjamin SNIJMAN en
Martha Cornelia Catharina Christina SNIJMAN – DE BEER
Getuigen: David Benjamin SNIJMAN en
Johanna Elisabetha SNIJMAN – SMIT
Petrus Wilhelmus GEIJSER en
Aletta Sofeia GEIJSER – VENTER p156
745 Petrus Johannes 4 Sept 1867
Ouders: Christoffel Diederik Johannes ERASMUS en
Suzanna Magdalena ERASMUS – SNIJMAN
Getuigen: Petrus Francois ERASMUS en
Martha Magdalena Johanna ERASMUS – DUVENAGE
David Benjamin SNIJMAN en
Johanna Elisabetha SNIJMAN – SMIT
Gedoopt op de 26 sten Januarij 1868
746 Maria Elisabeth 15 Oct 1867
Ouders: Martinus Frederik GEIJSER en
Suzanna Cecilia GEIJSER – VAN STADEN
Getuigen: Petrus Johannes VAN STADEN en
Maria Elisabeth VAN STADEN – VAN STADEN
Aletta Sofeia GEIJSER – VENTER
Margrietha Elisabeth VAN STADEN
Gedoopt te Rotterdam 16e Februarij 1868
747 Gert Petrus Daniel Jacobus 18 Aug 1868 ? moet seker 1867 wees!
Ouders: Willem Andries NEL en
Anna Sofeia NEL – ROBBERTSE
Getuigen: Christoffel Johannes SNIJMAN en
Mieta Maria SNIJMAN – NEL
Jan Andries RABé
Vriendelike Groetnis,
Marì Mostert Montanapark, Pretoria. MINNAAR / MOSTERT / PRINSLOO / DORFLING / VAN STADEN / FARMER
Boodskap 7. [koerant]Die Republikein 2008.01.28 Posted by: "Louis Olivier" [email protected] Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:24 am (PST)
DIE graad 12-seun van die Hoër Tegniese Skool (HTS) Windhoek wat verlede Maandag in 'n tragiese fratsongeluk met sy motorfiets teen 'n trein vasgery het, het Vrydag kort voor die middaguur ná 'n dapper stryd van vier dae aan sy breinbeserings beswyk. "Hy het in Oktober 18 geword, en was maar net vier dae in matriek…" het sy steeds diep hartseer pa, mnr. Chris Rodgers, gister gesê. Kevin word oorleef deur sy pa Chris, ma Sylvia, "bonus-pa" Piere Venter en suster Shani (11).
-- Linda & Louis Olivier Pretoria 0128031028 [email protected] [email protected] Olivier, Coetzee, Swart, du Plooy
Boodskap 8. BURGER/STOOP STANDERTON KONSENTRASIE KAMP Posted by: "Gene Milton" [email protected] gene.milton Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:33 am (PST)
Dagse Lyslede
Ek sal dit wardeer as iemand kan help my oupa en ouma het ontmoet in Staderton Konsentrasie kamp Schalk Willem BURGER * 1898 Calvinia, en Cornelia Maria STOOP *1901Amesfoort Hulle is in Ermelo getroud en het geboer naby dir Douglas Dam buite Ermelo - my Moeder en haar broers het van daar per donkie kar skool to gery. Ouma is in 1963 oorlede in Ermelo en oupa trou to met sy skoon-sussie (haar naam en die van oupa se broer is onbekend) oupa is in 1973 oorlede en sy SK is nerens te vinde op NAAIRS nie (tensy ek dof is).
Is daar a ander manier hoe ek kan uitvind wie sy ouers was? Of ten minste van sy ander familie lede?
Hulp sal wardeer word
Dankie Gene Milton Randburg
Boodskap 9. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 25 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:38 am (PST)
Gelukwensings RUDMAN, Ossie. Geluk met 80ste verjaarsdag. Seun Ossie, Hendrien en kinders. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 25/01/2008)
Sterfgevalle GEORGE, Virginia Enid 63 jaar. Begrafnisdiens Sondag 27 Jan 2008 10:00 Sewendedag Adventistekerk. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 25/01/2008) Van Willing Begrafnisdienste 041 988 1919
MAFIET, Margaret Magdalena 59 jaar. Begrafnisdiens Saterdag 26 Jan 2008 13:00 Rosedale Kong. Kerk. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 25/01/2008) Van Willing Begrafnisdienste 041 988 1919
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 10. EIKENHOF BEGRAFPLAAS Posted by: "Gene Milton" [email protected] gene.milton Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:39 am (PST)
Dagse lyslede
Ek will komende Saterday Eikenhof begrafplaas toe aangesiek meeste van my SCHONKEN en PISTORIUS family daar en in Heidelberg befrawe was.
Is dit veilig? Het iemand dalk reeds daar fotos geneem? En laastens waar is die begrafplase gelee en is daar meer as een in Eikenhof?
Baie dankie
Gene Milton Randburg
Boodskap 11. NG gemeentes in Kaapstad Posted by: "cgviljoen" [email protected] frost_clan Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:42 am (PST)
Beste Almal
Moontlik nie heeltemaal 'n genealogiese vraag nie, antwoord dus maar na my persoonlike adres, asb: is daar enige werklik aktiewe NG gemeentes oor in Kaapstad?
Groete Susan
Susan Viljoen Alberton, South Africa/Suid-Afrika Licensed Scrap-ther-a-PT Memory Healing Practitioner Licence no 11/010/16
Boodskap 12. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 26 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:48 am (PST)
Gelukwensings BOOYSE, Charlotte. Geluk met 21ste verjaarsdag. Ouers, broers, susters, kleinkinders. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 26/01/2008)
Dankbetuigings SKINNER, Luke. Dankie vir simpatie en ondersteuning. Pik, Sue, Lucy en Esteé (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 26/01/2008)
Sterfgevalle ERASMUS, Ouboet. Begrafnisdiens Maandag 28 Jan 2008 15:00 Volle Evangelie Kerk, Noordeinde. Forest Hill-begraafplaas. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 26/01/2008) First Ave Funeral Home 041 581 5028
In Memoriam JORDAAN, Peet. Sou 63 jaar gewees het Sondag 27 Jan 2008. Patsy, Karl, Carismé, Elana, Matt. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 26/01/2008)
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 13. (Koerant) Beeld 28 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:11 am (PST)
DE FREITAS; Chaundre Robin. Kan Robin Francis DE FREITAS, voorheen Kempton Park, Gauteng provinsie die CMR Pretoria-Noord skakel by 012-546-0650 oor aanneming van Chaundre Robin. (Beeld - 28/01/2008)
FOURIE; Margaret Denise, in lewe van Pretoria. Roudiens: NG Kerk, Montana, Pretoria, 29/01/2008, 10:00. Verassing. (Beeld - 28/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
GULDENFENNIG; Retha, in lewe van Palms Renaissance Aftreeoord, Silverton, Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: NG Kerk, Meyerspark, Erasmusstraat 221, Pretoria, 29/01/2008, 11:00. (Beeld - 28/01/2008) Grobbelaars & Church Street Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria, 012-348-5556.
OOSTHUIZEN; M J S (Mari) * 22/04/1916 + 23/01/2008. Sy sal onthou word deur haar kinders, kleinkinders en agterkleinkinders. (Beeld - 25, 28/01/2008)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 14a. Re: Gesoek: BASSON, CP x STEYN, MJ (*1848) Posted by: "Johan van Breda" [email protected] cjvanbreda Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:44 am (PST)
Vir die BASSON navorsers,
Alexander van Breda en Hilletje Johanna BASSON se kinders was :- g1 Anna Christina Johanna * 10 02 1884 = Swartland 06 04 1884 x Darling 15 05 1906 Henry George DUCKITT * c 1877, boer van Schuldpadfontein. g2 Alexander * 11 10 1887 = Swartland 08 03 1888 g3 Hester Johanna Maria * 06 07 1889 = Hopefield 20 10 1889 g4 Hilletje Johanna * 04 01 1891 = Hopefield 29 03 1891. Ongetroud.
Groete,
Johan van Breda
Boodskap 15. Afsterwe Skoonmoeder: Helena (Gebore) DIEDERIKS Posted by: "Par Excellance" [email protected] duplessislouw Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:44 pm (PST)
Dit is met leedwese om die afsterwe vanoggend vroeg weens 'n beroerte aanval verlede week Dinsdag, van my skoonmoeder aan julle deur te gee.
Helena Elizabeth Jacoba DIEDERIKS *19.4.1921 Heilbron Oorl 29.1.2008 Durban x Johannes (Hannes) Matthÿs BADENHORST *17.11.1923 Strydenburg Oorl 17.1.1976 Durban Noord xx Bernardus Johan VAN DER WALT *3.10.1911 Oorl. 11.8.2003
Met dank vir julle gebede
Louw en Mariana du Plessis 011 888 3433 082 565 2767 Mariana
Boodskap 16. Verlore notas en familiebybels Posted by: "Dennis Laptop" [email protected] dennis_pretorius Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:00 pm (PST)
Hallo Almal
Ons het nou weer op die poslys gesien hoe graag ons lede help om mense op te spoor en graag wil weet of die mense en hulle notas bymekaar uitkom !!!
enkele maande gelede het ons gehoor van twee familiebybels wat in pandjieswinkels en ander plekke opgespoor was en toe na hulle regmatige eienaars gesoek was. Wie weet hoe hierdie twee sake verloop het - is die regte mense in besit van die bybels ?
Wie kan vir ons verder daarvan vertel ? groetnis
Dennis Pretorius, Krugersdorp, South Africa/Suid Afrika Executive Member of GSSA / Uitvoerende Lid van GGSA Genealogical Researcher/Genealogiese Navorser Owner of SAGenealogy E-mail list/Lyseienaar - SAGenealogie poslys E-Mail/E-pos: [email protected] Web address/Webadres: http://mzone.mweb.co.za/residents/k75/genealogy.html Telephone/Telefoon: +27-83-679-8541 Fax/Faks +27-86-609-8541 Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3087
Datum: Tuesday, January 29, 2008
Daar is 3 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: Potch Plaas - Blesbokfontein From: J van der Grijp
2a. Afsterwe Skoonmoeder: Helena (Gebore) DIEDERIKS From: Annelie Els
3. GEYER en BISSCHOFF From: Marlene S Boodskap 1a. Re: Potch Plaas - Blesbokfontein Posted by: "J van der Grijp" [email protected] jacquesvdg Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:07 pm (PST)
Goeiedag Santa
Ek is opsoek na die graf van my ouma se ouma. (My pa se ma se ma se ma)
Elizabeth Magdalena Maria JACOBS , + 23 Oct 1899 op ouderdom 31 j 1 m
x Jacobus Petrus Delport + 31 Mei 1954
Haar sterftekennis teken haar doodsplek aan as plaas Blesbokfontein, distrik Potchefstroom.
Volgens Adelle Jerling, begin die ou begraafplaas se registers eers by 1903. Daaroor wonder ons of sy nie dalk op die plaas begrawe is nie.
Dit sal lekker wees om vir my ouma te kan vertel waar haar ouma begrawe is voor die tyd haar vang.
Vriendelike Groete uit Roodepoort Jacques van der Grijp
Boodskap 2a. Afsterwe Skoonmoeder: Helena (Gebore) DIEDERIKS Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:57 pm (PST)
Hallo Louw en Mariana,
Opregte simpatie met die afsterwe van `n dierbare. My Onse Hemelse Vader julle hartseer ligter maak en die trane minder.
My Ouma-groot is `n BADENHORST van Strydenburg omgewing. Ek het in die boek gaan loer en gewonder, is Mariana die h2 wat daarin voorkom?
Groetnis Annelie. Valhalla.
Boodskap 3. GEYER en BISSCHOFF Posted by: "Marlene S" [email protected] marlsas111 Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:14 am (PST)
Hi almal,
Ek is opsoek na meer informasie oor:
Hendrik Frederik Christiaan GEYER wat getroud was met Hester Christina BISSCHOFF (dogter van Johan Heinrich BISSCHOFF en Hester Christina SMIT)
Hulle kinders was: 1) Elizabeth Anna GEYER(1876-1952) 2) Hendrik Frederik Christiaan GEYER 3) Johan Hendrik GEYER 4) Johan Wilhelm Christiaan GEYER 5) Andries Adriaan GEYER
Enige info oor hierdie GEYER's en BISSHOFF's sal help.
Marlene Stewart, Wellington New Zealand http://marlsa.tribalpages.com GEERE, GEERTSEMA, SIMPSON and ROUX Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3088
Datum: Tuesday, January 29, 2008
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: GEYER en BISSCHOFF (vir Marlene Steward) From: Charlie Els
1b. Re: GEYER en BISSCHOFF (vir Marlene Steward) From: Marlene S
1c. Re: GEYER en BISSCHOFF (vir Marlene Steward) From: Charlie Els
1d. BISSCHOFF 4- Marlene From: kerrieborrie
2a. Afsterwe Skoonmoeder: Helena (Gebore) DIEDERIKS From: Par Excellance
2b. Re: Afsterwe Skoonmoeder: Helena (Gebore) DIEDERIKS From: Fanie Blignaut
3a. BEGRAFNISBRIEWE From: ElanaK
4a. BISSCHOFF3 From: kerrieborrie
5a. NEL van Calitzdorp c 1874 From: Johann Ahlers
5b. NEL van Calitzdorp c 1874 From: alta le roux
5c. Re: NEL van Calitzdorp c 1874 From: Johann Ahlers
6a. Re: NAAIRS - MHG soek From: Willeen Olivier
7a. Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe? From: Adélle Jerling
7b. Re: Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe? From: Magda
7c. Re: Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe? From: David Le Roux
7d. Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe opskryf. From: Annelie Els
7e. Re: Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe? From: Ann Tiran
7f. Re: Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe? From: Jorge Estreux
7g. Re: Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe? From: David Le Roux
8.1. New file uploaded to SAGenealogie From: [email protected]
9. Re :ADELLE- Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe! From: Gert Coertzen
10. (Koerant) Beeld 29 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
11a. JANSE VAN RENSBURG Elisabeth (Elsje) Sophia - waar is sy dalk gedoop From: Annelie Els
11b. Re: JANSE VAN RENSBURG Elisabeth (Elsje) Sophia - waar is sy dalk ge From: Alta Griffiths
11c. Re: JANSE VAN RENSBURG Elisabeth (Elsje) Sophia - waar is sy dalk ge From: Annelie Els Boodskap 1a. Re: GEYER en BISSCHOFF (vir Marlene Steward) Posted by: "Charlie Els" [email protected] charlieels Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:28 am (PST)
Hallo Marlene,
Lyk my daar's iets verkeerd met jou inligting: Johan Heinrich BISSCHOFF het geleef 1762 - 1823. As Hester Christina kinders gehad het van 1876 af, is sy waarskynlik gebore in ± die 1850's - 1860's en kan sy nie sy kind wees nie, selfs nie sy kleinkind nie, eerder sy agter-kleinkind. Ek sien in SAG Vol 1 bl. 288 is daar 'n agterkleinkind van hom: b4c1d8 Hester (x Geyer). Dis seker sy. Het jy 'n geboortedatum vir Hester Christina ?
Groete,
CHARLIE
Boodskap 1b. Re: GEYER en BISSCHOFF (vir Marlene Steward) Posted by: "Marlene S" [email protected] marlsas111 Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:45 am (PST)
Hallo Charlie,
Dit kan maklik wees dat my inligting verkeerd is. Ek het nie 'n geboortedatum vir Hester Christina nie, slegs vir haar dogter het ek korrekte datums:
Elizabeth Anna Geyer (geb. 19 April 1876 oorl 29 April 1952, x Jan Cornelius Geertsema).
Die inligting wat ek het van Johan Heinrich verder het is dat hy van Burgeln(?) Hesse in Duitsland is. So ek dink jy is reg in dat sy agterkleinkind die Bisshoff is wat met Geyer getroud is.
Ek het nie die SAG Volumes nie, is dit moontlik om hierdie Bisshoff informasie ierwers online te kry, of kan jy dit moontlik vir my stuur?
Dankie vir die help!
Marlene
Boodskap 1c. Re: GEYER en BISSCHOFF (vir Marlene Steward) Posted by: "Charlie Els" [email protected] charlieels Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:28 am (PST)
Hallo Marlene,
Ek stuur vir jou iets direk.
Groete weer,
CHARLIE
Boodskap 1d. BISSCHOFF 4- Marlene Posted by: "kerrieborrie" [email protected] kerrieborrie Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:14 am (PST)
Marlene,
Gaan gaan www.stamouers.com van Andre van Rensburg. Onder stamouers klik B en dan BISSCHOFF/BISCHOFF. Daar is informasie oor die Johann Heinrich BISSCHOFF. Die ingligting is nie daar nie maar die begin van die BISSCHOFF IN RSA. groete Elizabeth
Boodskap 2a. Afsterwe Skoonmoeder: Helena (Gebore) DIEDERIKS Posted by: "Par Excellance" [email protected] duplessislouw Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:52 am (PST)
Dagsê Annelie
Jy is heeltemal korrek my vrou is Mariana gebore Badenhorst b5c7d1e3f10g1h2 Mariana Badenhorst *10.4.1950 x S Wait xx Lourens Marthinus DU PLESSIS *22.11.1945
Ons woon in Linden Johannesburg
Groetnis
Louw 011 888 3433
Boodskap 2b. Re: Afsterwe Skoonmoeder: Helena (Gebore) DIEDERIKS Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:00 am (PST)
Beste Louw en Mariana,
Ons innige meegevoel met die afsterwe van jul geliefde. Mag ons Hemelse Vader julle die nodige vertroosting gee. Ons is Sep 2007 deur dieselfde trauma.
Seën Groete, Fanie en Hikkie Blignaut, Vanderbijlpark.
Boodskap 3a. BEGRAFNISBRIEWE Posted by: "ElanaK" [email protected] elanakitching Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:54 am (PST)
HENDRIEKA MARGARETHA VISAGIE
GEBORE 21 AUGUSTUS 1920 OORLEDE 25 NOVEMBER 2007
DRAERS :
KOSIE VISAGIE (SEUN) STOFFEL VISAGIE (SEUN) - SKOONDOGTER RONEL VISAGIE (NEE KITCHING) MARTIN OOSTHUIZEN (SKOONSEUN) JAKOB STEENEKAMP (SKOONSEUN) SCHRISTOF VISAGIE (KLEINSEUN) JOHAN VISAGIE (KLEINSEUN)
DIE TANNIE IS GEBORE EN OORLEDE TE STRYDENBURG.
JOHANNES FOURIE
GEBORE 22 DESEMBER 1939 OORLEDE 24 JANUARIE 2008
GEBORE TE SOMERSET-OOS OORLEDE TE MIDDELBURG OK
BROERS : THEUNS FOURIE SUSTERS : SIENIE FOURIE (RADEMEYER) GRIET FOURIE (CONRADIE) PETRO FOURIE (STANDER)
GROETE
ELANA KITCHING
Boodskap 4a. BISSCHOFF3 Posted by: "kerrieborrie" [email protected] kerrieborrie Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:05 am (PST)
Goeiemôre Marlene,
Antwoord jou in Afrikaans want dis ´n taal duisend. Jong iewers sit jy die pot mis want Johann Bisschoff het 8 kinders gehad waarvan Andries die nageslagte gelaat het. Andries het 17 kinders gehad (3 huwelike). Uit sy eerste huwelik het sy seun Johan Hendrik 10 kinders gehad. Dus Hester is die 9de kind van Johan en sy is oorlede in 1936. Sy was getroud met Hendrik Fredik Christiaan??? Geyer. TAB/MHG/92093. HET al heelwat korrigeer wat krom was. Verder informasie sal ek deur gee na jou epos stuur. Charlie kan ook hier help. Nie met Geyers maar wel Bisschoffs.
Geyer inligting sal waardeer word.
Groete Elizabeth
Boodskap 5a. NEL van Calitzdorp c 1874 Posted by: "Johann Ahlers" [email protected] jahlers1 Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:23 am (PST)
Beste Lyslede,
In my soektog om die voorsatestaat van my skoonsuster te kan voltooi, kort ek inligting oor die ouers van:
*NEL, Johanna Catharina Susanna, ~24 Des 1874 Calitzdorp*
Ek het haar pa as Piet NEL, maar aangesien nie een van 'Piet' of 'NEL' skaars is nie, help dit nie juis veel nie... Hierdie NEL dame is op 22 Nov 1897 in Calitzdorp getroud met Gideon J JOUBERT gebore in Graaff-Reinet-distrik.
Enige inligting of leidrade sal baie welkom wees.
Vriendelike groete, Johann Ahlers Pretoria
Boodskap 5b. NEL van Calitzdorp c 1874 Posted by: "alta le roux" [email protected] Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:28 am (PST)
Johann
Volgens Calitzdorp se lidmaatregister was Johanna Catharina Susanna Nel se vader ene Johannes Petrus Nel. Ek weet nie of dit jou sal help om hom op te spoor nie!
Alta le Roux [email protected] Posbus 1138, OUDTSHOORN, 6620 Tel. 083 996 0676 / 044 272 2271 (h) / 044 272 3676 (w)
Boodskap 5c. Re: NEL van Calitzdorp c 1874 Posted by: "Johann Ahlers" [email protected] jahlers1 Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:33 am (PST)
Dankie, Alta - dis verseker al weer een tree vorentoe!!
Groete, Johann
Boodskap 6a. Re: NAAIRS - MHG soek Posted by: "Willeen Olivier" [email protected] willempie5 Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:48 am (PST)
Dennis,
Die dokument wat ek in Desember saamgestel het, is by die huis, maar ek het toe sommer nou gou getoets of mens elke keer daardie dokument nie gaan kry nie, en toe weer op oumagrootjie se name gesoek, en wil jy meer, toe gee NAAIRS dit vir my :
*DEPOT* TAB *SOURCE* MHG *TYPE* LEER *VOLUME_NO* 0 *SYSTEM* 01 *REFERENCE* 1326/56 *PART* 1 *DESCRIPTION* LABUSCHAGNE, JAN HARM. *STARTING* 19560000 *ENDING* 19560000 *REMARKS* SURVIVING SPOUSE *CORNELIA ELIZABETH PETRONELLA* LABUSCHAGNE PREDECEASED SPOUSE MARIA ALETTA SUSANNA LABUSCHAGNE.
Het dit laas keer net met die Jan Harm Labuschagne soekwoorde gekry.
Ek het al tevore die gevoel gekry dat as jy 'n paar dae uitmekaar soek die resultate anders is, dis die eerste keer dat ek dit pertinent op swart en wit het - ek het die spelling in Desember mooi nagegaan om seker te maak :-).
Willeen Willeen Olivier Rooihuiskraal Kotzé, van Wyk, Olivier, Bosman, en al hulle voorgeslagte ...
Boodskap 7a. Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe? Posted by: "Adélle Jerling" [email protected] senekalgen Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:36 am (PST)
Kan iemand wat slimmer is dalk vir my sê of daar 'n register by een of ander Staatsdept is waarin plaaskerkhowe moes registreer? Ek ken die Potch-registers van die kerkhof nou al redelik goed, en kry die plaas-begraafdes nêrens. So waar is daardie mense se name opgeskryf?
Is my afleiding reg as ek sê dat sodra die grafsteen verweer is, die persoon wat begrawe is, nie meer vir die geskiedenis bestaan indien hy/sy sonder sterfkennis begrawe is nie?
Ek het gister na 'n soektog van 2 jaar op my oupagrootjie Greyling afgekom in 'n plaaskerkhof op Cannon, Stutterheim. (Moet nou nie soos my man sê "O, en hoe gaan dit met hom?" nie!). Daar is etlike grafte wat sonder inskrywings lê en die kerkhoffie is vreeslik verwaarloos. Nou wil dit vir my lyk asof onsself besig is om saam met Vader Tyd ons voorgeslagte te verloor?
Sê tog asb vir my daar is iewers registers êrens?! Anders is dot ons patriotiese plig om te begin kerkhowe opskryf!
ADéLLE JERLING Sel: 072 920 0788
Familienavorsing in SENEKAL, JERLING, GREYLING, ELOFF, KLEINHANS, CRUYWAGEN, VAN DER LINDE
Boodskap 7b. Re: Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe? Posted by: "Magda" [email protected] bosschris100 Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:31 am (PST)
Adèlle
Volgens my beskeie mening is die enigste registers by die begraafplaas se kantore gehou en kan jy alleenlik daar die grafnommer en detail opspoor.
‘n Baie lang proses. Miskien het somige Munisipaliteite dit opgeteken.
Magda Bossert
Boodskap 7c. Re: Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe? Posted by: "David Le Roux" [email protected] dawie_lr Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:39 am (PST)
My buurman het op sy plaas ongeveer 40 ou ongemerkte grafte. Ons probeer al jare lank om agter te kom wie s'n dit is, het selfs al by die museum gaan navraag doen, sonder sukses. My gevolgtrekking is dat sulke grafte nie opgeteken is nie.
David
Boodskap 7d. Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe opskryf. Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:06 am (PST)
Hallo Adélle,
Dis hoekom daar `n begraafplaasprojek op die eGGSA webwerf is. Daar is alreeds meer as 50,500 fotos van grafte wat afgeneem is. Juis om al die plaasgrafte op te teken omdat hulle vir die voorgeslagte verlore gaan.
Indien daar van die mense is wat fotos daarvoor wil skenk, kontak my groot asseblief persoonlik vir die epos adres van die persoon wat verantwoordelik is vir die hantering en oplaai daarvan.
Selfs selfoon fotos word gebruik.
Groetnis Annelie. Pretoria.
Boodskap 7e. Re: Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe? Posted by: "Ann Tiran" [email protected] anntiran Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:26 am (PST)
David
Is dit nie dalk volk wat op die plaas gewerk het, se grafte nie. Op my swaer se plaas is daar ook ongemerkte grafte wat skoonpa gesê het dié van volk was wat op die plaas gewoon het voor hy die plaas in 1946 gekoop het. Sommiges is ingeval.
Annatjie
Boodskap 7f. Re: Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe? Posted by: "Jorge Estreux" [email protected] jorgeestreux Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:11 pm (PST)
Ek sou dink dat in die meeste van die gevalle is plaasgrafte nerens geboekstaaf nie. Daar kan dalk rekords in sekere kerkboeke wees. In 1719 het die Drakenstein Kerkeraad bv. bepaal dat almal wat binne Drakenstein val binne of buite die kerk (kerkhof) begrawe moet word. Waar dit onmoontlik was moes die familie nogsteeds die gewone koste vir die kerk en koster betaal. Dus rekords moes gehou geword het van almal.
Gert
Boodskap 7g. Re: Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe? Posted by: "David Le Roux" [email protected] dawie_lr Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:23 pm (PST)
Annatjie,
Twee van die grafte het name op die stene, en ons weet dat dit die eerste eienaar en een van sy seuns was. (Vroeg 1920's). Dit is waarskynlik dat van die ander volk was, maar dit was maar 'n kleinerige Karoo skaapplaas en sou nie soveel werkers benodig het nie. Dit is op 'n trekpad na die noorde en ons gevoel is dat dit dalk slagoffers van die Groot Griep is wat op pad siek geword het. Sowat 20 km daarvandaan is daar 3 grafte van jongmans naby die pad, wat volgens die datums op die grafstene wel in die Groot Griep dood is. Ek wil hulle nou gaan afneem.
Groete David
Boodskap 8.1. New file uploaded to SAGenealogie Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:42 am (PST)
Hello,
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Boodskap 9. Re :ADELLE- Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe! Posted by: "Gert Coertzen" [email protected] coertzen Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:56 am (PST)
Adelle,
n Klompie jare gelede het ek gou Graaff-Reinette toe (van Gauteng) gery om net al my familie in die plaaslike kerkhowe op te skryf. Dit behoort mos nie moeilik te wees nie. Daar was nie een nie!!!!
Eers daar het ek besef dat almal destyds op plase begrawe was. Plaas name was by die huis op die PC en dit het ek ook nie juis afgeskryf nie. So leer n persoon met die tyd saam.
Ek het by n paar dorpe gou n draai gery op pad af en daar n hele paar "familie" opgespoor.
My ouma se graf het ek toe so raakgeloop en eers terug by die huis dit agtergekom.
Groetnis
GERT COERTZEN
Boodskap 10. (Koerant) Beeld 29 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:00 am (PST)
DE FREITAS; Chaundre Robin. Kan Robin Francis DE FREITAS, voorheen Kempton Park, Gauteng provinsie die CMR Pretoria-Noord skakel by 012-546-0650 oor aanneming van Chaundre Robin. (Beeld - 28, 29/01/2008)
PRESTON; Brandon. Gerald PRESTON kontak dringend vir Jan HARMSE by 083-423-2009, oor aanneming van Brandon. (Beeld - 29/01/2008)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 11a. JANSE VAN RENSBURG Elisabeth (Elsje) Sophia - waar is sy dalk gedoop Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:04 am (PST)
Hallo Medegeners,
Ek is terug met my JANSE VAN RENSBURG Elisabeth (Elsje) Sophia voorouer.
Wat ek het:- sy is c. 1834 gebore en 1852 op Riversdal getroud.
Waar kon sy moontlik gedoop gewees het, ek soek haar ouers.
Emmerentia kon nie help nie, sy het haar nie in haar databasis nie. SAG het nie genoeg inligting dat ek haar kan eien nie.
BVD. Groetnis Annelie Pretoria.
Boodskap 11b. Re: JANSE VAN RENSBURG Elisabeth (Elsje) Sophia - waar is sy dalk ge Posted by: "Alta Griffiths" [email protected] griffithsalta Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:13 am (PST)
Annelie
Swellendam en dan miskien Tulbagh - daardie gemeente het wye grense gehad!
Alta
Boodskap 11c. Re: JANSE VAN RENSBURG Elisabeth (Elsje) Sophia - waar is sy dalk ge Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:21 am (PST)
BAIE DANKIE Alta, nou gaan ek behoorlik begin soek na haar.
Lekker aand verder. Ek gaan inkruip. Groetnis Annelie. Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3089
Datum: Wednesday, January 30, 2008
Daar is 10 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1. Du Toit en Slabbert van distr. Nieu-Bethesda, oorl. circa 1918 From: nasr_alta_ir
2a. Re: Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe? From: Janet Melville
2b. Re: Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe? From: Jorge Estreux
2c. Re: Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe? From: Dr C.J. Swanevelder
3a. Re: Smit getroud met Maartens en van der Merwe From: Willeen Olivier
3b. Re: Smit getroud met Maartens en van der Merwe From: Elizabeth Oberholster
4. Re: Van Rensburg afkoms - DNA resultate bevestig From: MontXsuZ-point-ca
5a. BRINK/PANTER EN BRINK/FABRICIUS From: Johan Brink
6. (Koerant) Beeld 30 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
7. Plaas en Dorps Begraafplase From: Fanie Blignaut Boodskap 1. Du Toit en Slabbert van distr. Nieu-Bethesda, oorl. circa 1918 Posted by: "nasr_alta_ir" [email protected] nasr_alta_ir Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:42 pm (PST)
Hallo
Ek het so pas by die besprekingsgroep aangesluit.
Ek is tans besig om my man se "Du Toit" stamregister op datum te bring. Ek soek veral besonderhede oor die ouers van my skoonma, Maria Magdalena Dippenaar ('Lenie') DU TOIT. Haar ouers is albei tydens die 1918-Griep dood. Hulle is moontlik albei te Nieu- Bethesda begrawe. Die ma se nooiensvan was SLABBERT, haar doopname vermoedelik Fanny E. Sy was by afsterwe ongeveer 36 jr. oud.
Sy was getroud met (naam onbekend) DU TOIT, broer van Schalk Willem DU TOIT. Enige inligting wat lyk asof dit hierby sou kon inpas is welkom. Of, dalk is daar fotos van hul grafte in Martie du Toit se Graffotos Databasis onder DU TOIT en SLABBERT? Indien wel, laat my tog asseblief weet?
Groete, en by voorbaat dank Charlette du Toit Port Elizabeth
Boodskap 2a. Re: Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe? Posted by: "Janet Melville" [email protected] jmelvillexsinetcoza Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:14 pm (PST)
In my agterkop se dit vir my dat jy nie sommer iemand op die plaas kon begrawe nie, jy moes by die afdelingsraad toestemming kry om dit te doen. Die Vrystaat is vol begraafplase op plase wat desdae verlate staan. Nou die rekords sal seer sekerlik nie meer bestaan nie as hulle dit ooit gehad het. Van Tarkastad gepraat, toe ek laas daar was het hulle al die fotos van die vorige belangrike mense die burgermeester ens af gehaal van die muur en dit was onder die verhoog in n hoop gegooi. Daar was net een dame wat nog kon help met die begraafplas plan, en dit het sy gered omdat dit ook na die ashoop op pad was. Terloops ek het die hele Tarkastad opgeskryf en deurgestuur vir die begraafplaas projek. Nog nooit so baie perdebuie in my lewe gesien nie, ek en Emmarentia Ferreira het goed deurgeloop onder die goed.
Groete Janet Posbus 15215 Emerald Hill PE 6011 083 642 7744 H/Faks: 041 3792077 Researching: van der Merwe, Melville, Rudman, William Reynolds, Van Lingen and East Cape families
Boodskap 2b. Re: Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe? Posted by: "Jorge Estreux" [email protected] jorgeestreux Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:05 pm (PST)
Janet,
Voorheen was dit nie nodig om enige toestemming te kry om iemand op jou plaas te begrawe nie. Daar mag voorskrifte gewees het i.v.m. die diepte van n graf ens.. Verskeie van my familie is in familie-kerkhowe begrawe op ander mense se plase. In heelwat gevalle is daar ook geen kerkdiens nie (so geen kerkrekords nie). Die mense kom slegs bymekaar by die graf, n familie-lid of vriend lei die verrigtinge en einde van storie. Jare terug op klein dorpies (soos Vaalwater) weet ek dat mense dele van die kerkhof toegekamp het vir hulle familie. Jy moes self die graf grawe ens.. of daar daardie tyd rekords gehou was weet ek nie. Dit moes moeilik gewees het. Dit blyk dat daar eers so 10 jaar terug wette rakende werkers en hulle familie se regte ens. gepubliseer is kyk na; http://www.naudes.co.za/Main/Data/Begrafnisse_op_Plase_1341.asp
Gert
Boodskap 2c. Re: Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe? Posted by: "Dr C.J. Swanevelder" [email protected] Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:42 pm (PST)
Adélle,
Die ou grafstene verweer oor tyd en raak onleesbaar. Ons kan aanvaar dat daar daagliks inligting verlore gaan en daarom is dit so dringend noodsaaklik dat ons die begraafplase wat nog nie opgeskryf is nie, so gou as moontlik volledig doen. Die baie ou grafstene is van sagte materiaal, gewoonlik leiklip, gemaak en dit skilver af met tyd. Ons moet aanvaar dat meeste begraafplase op plase geen ander rekords het as net die inskripsies op die grafstene. Voorspoed aan almal met die hernude pogings om alle kerhowe se inligting ingesamel te kry.
Boodskap 3a. Re: Smit getroud met Maartens en van der Merwe Posted by: "Willeen Olivier" [email protected] willempie5 Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:28 pm (PST)
Liz,
As Johanna Sophia Oberholster * 1759, kan sy onmoontlik nie die ma wees van Cecilia Jacomina * 1766 nie.
Willeen Willeen Olivier Rooihuiskraal Kotzé, van Wyk, Olivier, Bosman, en al hulle voorgeslagte ...
Boodskap 3b. Re: Smit getroud met Maartens en van der Merwe Posted by: "Elizabeth Oberholster" [email protected] lizoberholster Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:01 pm (PST)
Hi Willeen!
Ja, Johan het my reeds daarop attent gemaak. So duidelik soek ek ook nou korrekte antwoorde! Tensy haar geboortedatum verkeerd is, dat sy dalkies 1749 gebore is. Maar dis bespiegeling! Ek wag dus ook om te hoor wat die slimmer mense sê!
Liz
Boodskap 4. Re: Van Rensburg afkoms - DNA resultate bevestig Posted by: "MontXsuZ-point-ca" [email protected] montxsuz Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:42 pm (PST)
Goeie naand Janse van Rensburg navorsers
Ten einde laaste het ek etlike maande gelede nog 'n Van Rensburg oorreed om 'n DNA toets te laat doen. Na 'n paar probleme (2 van sy monsters het in die pos weggeraak voor 1 uiteindelik die laboratorium in die VSA bereik het), het ons uiteindelik vandag die eerste resultate ontvang. Die resultate (yDNA) is baie soortgelyk, maw daar was blykbaar nie 'n melkman onder ons onlangse voorouers nie.
Dit is nogal betekenisvol wanneer mens in ag neem dat ons takke ten minste 8 geslagte of byna 300 jaar gelede uitmekaar is. Maw, ons is op papier albei afstammelinge van a1-b1 Johannes (*1709) - en dié was ons laaste gemeenskaplike voorouer. Ons vroulike voorouers (maw mtDNA resultate) is heeltemaal verskillend.
Ons wag nog op meer gedetaileerde resultate. Intussen hoop ek daar is nog 'n paar Van Rensburg manne (jammer dames :-)) wie belangstel in die lyn van navorsing. Indien wel, kontak my asseblief van die lys af en vra hoe om deel te neem. (Daar was nogal 'n bietjie Van Rensburg aktiwiteit op die lys in die laaste paar maande). Dis hierdie jaar 300 jaar sedert Claas Jansz se aankoms in die Kaap. Hopelik kan ons mettertyd meer leer oor sy afkoms.
Groete Christo van Rensburg ------Christo van Rensburg Vancouver, BC, Canada En belle Colombie Britannique ------Janse van Rensburg X Cronje; Barnard X Schoeman Herselman X Kriel; Wright X Breytenbach (1876 Bethulie; 1883 Philippolis; 1879 Kareedouw?; 1889 Wepener) http://www.montxsuz.ca/familie/ ------
Boodskap 5a. BRINK/PANTER EN BRINK/FABRICIUS Posted by: "Johan Brink" [email protected] Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:09 am (PST)
Ek soek duideliker genealogiese gegewens van die ondergenoemde persone sodat ek die BRINK in die groter stamboom geplaas kan kry:
Johannes Hendrik Nicolaas (alias John Henry) BRINK, boer "Zaaihoek" Middelburg Tvl *Swellendam ca.1842 +(60jr; Burgerkamp) Middelburg 11.2.1902 x Hanover, K.P, Maria/ Marian PANTER {dalk dv stamvader John Edward en Margaretha Johanna WOLTON, vlgs Malherbe, p756 } 2s 1d [vlgs sy SK]
Kan iemand dalk help of my na die regte mense verwys?
Groete
Johan Brink
Boodskap 6. (Koerant) Beeld 30 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:20 am (PST)
BEKKER; Dorothy, in lewe van Benoni, Gauteng provinsie. Begrafnisdiens: AGS Kerk, Benoni, 31/01/2008, 12:00 # Crystal Park Begraafplaas, Benoni. (Beeld - 30/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Benoni, 011-421-5842.
DE FREITAS; Chaundre Robin. Kan Robin Francis DE FREITAS, voorheen Kempton Park, Gauteng provinsie die CMR Pretoria-Noord skakel by 012-546-0650 oor aanneming van Chaundre Robin. (Beeld - 28, 29, 30/01/2008)
KELLEN(H)ER; Mikyla * 11/06/2004. Caroline Kirstin KELLEHER * 15/05/1980 kontak Minka LANDMAN by 012-379-5860 oor aanneming van Mikyla. (Beeld - 30/01/2008)
LIEBENBERG; Jacobus Coenraad (Koos) (Oud Kolonel), in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: Gemeenskapskerk, Pierre van Ryneveld, Centurion, Pretoria, 31/01/2008, 13:00 # Monavoni Begraafplaas, Centurion. (Beeld - 30/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Oos, 012-460-3745.
LOOTS; Marie * 29/05/1946 + 24/01/2008. Sy word oorleef deur haar Eggenoot, kinders, familie en vriende. (Beeld - 30/01/2008) Doves Begrafnisdienste, Cranbourne Laan 46, Benoni, 011-421-0926.
MATTHEWS; Catharina Jacoba, in lewe van Boksburg, Gauteng provinsie. Verassingsdiens: NG Klipkerk, Voortrekkerstraat, Boksburg, 01/02/2008, 14:00. (Beeld - 30/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Boksburg, 011-917-5041.
ROOS; Jan, in lewe van Nigel, Gauteng provinsie. Begrafnisdiens: Grace Gemeente Nigel, 31/01/2008, 11:00 # Nigel Begraafplaas. (Beeld - 30/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Nigel, 011-814-4853.
SEMMELINK; Cornelia Margaretha (Neels) * BASSON + 27/01/2008. Teraardbestelling: Porterville Begraafplaas, Wes-Kaapprovinsie, 04/02/2008. (Beeld - 30/01/2008) Doves Begrafnisdienste, Paarl, Wes-Kaapprovinsie, 021-872-6491.
STEFFENS; Jacobus, in lewe van Benoni, Gauteng provinsie. Begrafnisdiens: NH Kerk, Witfield, Boksburg, Gauteng provinsie, 01/02/2008, 11:00 # Nuwe Boksburg Begraafplaas. (Beeld - 30/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Benoni, 011-421-5842.
VAN AS; Matthys Johannes, in lewe van Germiston, Gauteng provinsie. Verassingsdiens: VEK Kerk, Freeway Park, Boksburg, Gauteng provinsie, 31/01/2008, 15:00. (Beeld - 30/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Germiston, 011-825-3667.
VAN DEN BERG; Zakhira. Rache VAN DEN BERG en Nadeem HARMID kontak Alicia MENIERS by 011-365-9060 oor aanneming van Zakhira. (Beeld - 30/01/2008)
VAN DER NEST; Aletta Johanna Jacoba Maria, in lewe van Thabazimbi, Limpopo provinsie. Begrafnisdiens: AGS Kerk, Van Dyk Park, Mimosastraat, Boksburg, Gauteng provinsie, 31/01/2008, 11:00 # Boksburg Begraafplaas. (Beeld - 30/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Boksburg, 011-917-5041.
VAN RENSBURG; Meiring en Joan. Baie geluk met jul Sestigste Huweliksherdenking van Gerrit, Lize en kinders, Marna, Jim, kinders en kleinkinders. Kontak: 072-903-2710. [Foto met berig]. (Beeld - 30/01/2008)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 7. Plaas en Dorps Begraafplase Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:32 am (PST)
Dagsê Vriende,
As daar van u is wat nie seker is van die prosedure om ‘n BP te dokumenteer nie, ek het riglyne en dokumente wat deur die GGSA gebruik word vir hierdie doel.
Voel vry om my te kontak en ek sal die inligting vir u met e-pos stuur.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, [email protected] Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3090
Datum: Thursday, January 31, 2008
Daar is 18 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1. Oosthuizen, de Beer, Olivier, van den Berg From: Johan Pottas
2a. NEL van Calitzdorp c 1874 From: Hugenote Museum
2b. Re: NEL van Calitzdorp c 1874 From: Johann Ahlers
3a. Re: Du Toit en Slabbert van distr. Nieu-Bethesda, oorl. circa 1918 From: Martie du Toit
4a. BISSCHOP/BISSCHOFF From: Ann Tiran
4b. Re: BISSCHOP/BISSCHOFF (vir Ann Tiran) From: Charlie Els
5. [Koerant ] The Mercury Woensdag 30 Januarie 2008 From: aletta magrieta.quebbemann
6a. Begraafplase From: Marie Bossert
6b. Re: Begraafplase From: Paul Bosman
7. Swellendam doopregisterfotos - finaal From: Annelie Els
8. (Koerant) Beeld 31 Jan. 2008 From: Fanie Blignaut
9a. TAB ondervinding aangebied From: cgviljoen
9b. Re: TAB ondervinding aangebied From: Sarel Burger
9c. Re: TAB ondervinding aangebied From: [email protected]
10. Re : [BP] DNA toetse From: MontXsuZ-point-ca
11. Nederlands (Johan van Breda) From: Elmien Wood
12. Coertzen (Gert Coertzen) From: Elmien Wood
13. Basson, Grobbelaar en De Villiers From: Annemie Lourens Boodskap 1. Oosthuizen, de Beer, Olivier, van den Berg Posted by: "Johan Pottas" [email protected] pottasjj Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:36 am (PST)
Dag almal
Ek het 'n probleem met die volgende huwelikke. Ek weet nie presies waar die fout is nie, maar vermoed dat ek dalk van Oosthuizens een gemaak het. Andersins is daar nog 'n van den Berg dame wat ek geen kennis van dra nie.
Al wat ek met sekerheid kan vermeld is dat die volgende soos in my data vervat 'n algehele onmoontlikheid is. Dalk is daar iemand wat my kan help om die saak uit te sorteer.
Ek kan net meld dat dat Matthys Johannes Martinus de Beer en Magdalena Christina van den Berg 5 kinders het tussen 1831 en 1837, nie in die gesinsblaaie vervat nie.
Groete
Family Group Record 1ste gesinsblad van 3 ======Husband: Jacobus OOSTHUIZEN ------Birth: 1798 Chr: 1 Jul 1798 Swellendam, Wes-Kaap Will: 11 Jul 1821 Beaufort distrik, Oos-Kaap Death: Burial: Marriage: 27 Jul 1817 Swellendam, Wes-Kaap Father: Adriaan OOSTHUIZEN (b 1773) Mother: Catharina Petronella HORN (b 1776) Other spouse: Susanna Maria Elizabeth OLIVIER (m 13 Mar 1828) ======Wife: Magdalena Christina VAN DEN BERG ------Birth: 1798 Chr: 6 Nov 1798 Swellendam, Wes-Kaap Will: 11 Jul 1821 Beaufort distrik, Oos-Kaap AKA: Magdalena Christina van den Bergh Death: Burial: Father: Coenraad VAN DEN BERG (b 1775) Mother: Maria NORTJE (b 1779) Other spouse: Matthys Johannes Marthinus DE BEER (m 25 Oct 1829) ======Children ======1 F Maria Magdalena OOSTHUIZEN Birth: 3 May 1818 Swellendam, Wes-Kaap Chr: 4 Apr 1819 Swellendam, Wes-Kaap Death: Burial: Marriage: ------2 F Catharina Petronella OOSTHUIZEN Birth: 20 Dec 1821 Swellendam, Wes-Kaap Chr: 26 Dec 1822 Swellendam, Wes-Kaap Death: bef Aug 1825 Burial: Marriage: ------3 F Catharina Petronella OOSTHUIZEN Birth: 31 Aug 1825 Ladismith, Wes-Kaap Chr: 14 May 1826 Swellendam, Wes-Kaap Death: 14 Feb 1869 Albert, Oos-Kaap AKA: Catharina Petronella Oosthuis Burial: Spouse: Charl Francois HAASBROEK (m 26 Jun 1865) ======FAMILY NOTES Marriage(1):
HUSBAND NOTES: Jacobus OOSTHUIZEN Chr(2): Will: (KAB MOOC 7/1/102.104) Hulle gemeenskaplike testament word opgestel terwyl hulle woon op die plaas Dolf's Kraal in die Coup, Beaufort distrik. General: Hy is die seun van Adriaan Oosthuizen en Catharina Petronella Horn. Hy is 'n tweede keer getroud in Swellendam op 13 Maart 1828 met Susanna Maria Elisabeth Olivier.
WIFE NOTES: Magdalena Christina VAN DEN BERG Birth: (KAB MOOC 7/1/102.104) Chr(3): (KAB VC 686) NGK, as getuies teken Roelof van Tonderen en Maria Magdalena van den Bergh. Will: (KAB MOOC 7/1/102.104) Hulle gemeenskaplike testament word opgestel terwyl hulle woon op die plaas Dolf's Kraal in die Coup, Beaufort distrik. AKA: (KAB VC 686) NGK, Swellendam.
CHILD NOTES: Maria Magdalena OOSTHUIZEN Birth: (KAB VC688) NGK, sy is gebore aan de Roode Berg. Chr: (KAB VC689) NGK, as getuies teken Sarel du Plessis, Maria Nortje, Johannes Petus Louis van den Berg, Catharina Petronella Hermina Oosthuizen en Magdalena Christina van Tonder.
CHILD NOTES: Catharina Petronella OOSTHUIZEN Birth: (KAB VC689) NGK, sy is gebore aan die Lange Berg. Chr: (KAB VC691) NGK, as getuies teken Cornelis Jacobus van Tonder en Martha Johanna Jonker.
CHILD NOTES: Catharina Petronella OOSTHUIZEN Birth: (KAB MOOC 6/9/126.5060) Sy is gebore op 'n plaas in die distrik. Die distrik het vroeër geval onder Riversdal. (KAB VC691) NGK. Chr: (KAB VC691) NGK, as getuies teken Andries van Tonder, Catharina Petronella Horn, Johannes Matthys Pretorius, Maria Magdalena van den Berg, Adriaan Oosthuizen, Magdalena Christina van Tonder, Daniel Coenraad van den Berg en Anna Olivier. Death: (KAB MOOC 6/9/126.5060) Sy sterf in die plaasopstal te Pronk's Kraal. AKA: (KAB MOOC 7/1/301.136) General: (KAB MOOC 6/9/126.5060) Sy is getroud met Willem Hermanus Basson, + Ladismith 1860. Hulle boer op Bovenland, Tulbagh of Worcester distrik.
SOURCES 1. South African Genealogies Vol 07: O-Ph. p179 d. 2. Ibid. p179 d. 3. J.A. Heese and R.T.J. Lombard. South African Genealogies Vol 01: A-C. Pretoria, Human Sciences Research Council. 1986. p228 b.
======Family Group Record 2de van 3 ======Husband: Jacobus OOSTHUIZEN ------Birth: 1798 Chr: 1 Jul 1798 Swellendam, Wes-Kaap Will: 11 Jul 1821 Beaufort distrik, Oos-Kaap Death: Burial: Marriage: 13 Mar 1828 Swellendam, Wes-Kaap Father: Adriaan OOSTHUIZEN (b 1773) Mother: Catharina Petronella HORN (b 1776) Other spouse: Magdalena Christina VAN DEN BERG (m 27 Jul 1817) ======Wife: Susanna Maria Elizabeth OLIVIER ------Birth: 1811 Ladismith, Wes-Kaap Chr: 26 Dec 1811 Swellendam, Wes-Kaap Death: 4 Jul 1852 Ladismith, Wes-Kaap Burial: Father: Jeremias Cornelis OLIVIER (b 1782) Mother: Sara LA GRANGE (b 1786) ======Children ======1 F Cornelia Johanna Dorothea OOSTHUIZEN Birth: 1836 Ladismith, Wes-Kaap Death: 10 Sep 1877 Ladismith, Wes-Kaap Burial: Spouse: Johannes Matthys PRETORIUS (m 9 Dec 1855) ======FAMILY NOTES Marriage(1,2):
HUSBAND NOTES: Jacobus OOSTHUIZEN Chr(3):
WIFE NOTES: Susanna Maria Elizabeth OLIVIER Birth(4): Sy is gebore op die plaas Hoekoe. Chr(5): Death(4): Sy sterf op die plaas Hoekoe.
CHILD NOTES: Cornelia Johanna Dorothea OOSTHUIZEN Birth(6): Sy is gebore op die plaas Opzoek. Death(7): Sy sterf in die plaas opstal te Opzoek. General: Sy is die dogter van Jacobus Oosthuizen en Susara Maria Elizabeth Olivier.
SOURCES 1. South African Genealogies Vol 07: O-Ph. p179 d. 2. Ibid. p105 d. 3. Ibid. p179 d. 4. Ronel Olivier, [email protected], tel 021-8733797, sel 0832850226. 5. South African Genealogies Vol 07: O-Ph. p105 d. 6. M.E. Pretorius assisted by André Pretorius. Pretorius through three centuries 1600- 1900. p473. 7. Ibid. p473.
===== Family Group Record 3 van 3 ======Husband: Matthys Johannes Marthinus DE BEER ------Birth: abt 1795 Chr: 23 Oct 1808 Death: Burial: Marriage: 25 Oct 1829 Swellendam, Wes-Kaap ======Wife: Magdalena Christina VAN DEN BERG ------Birth: 1798 Chr: 6 Nov 1798 Swellendam, Wes-Kaap Will: 11 Jul 1821 Beaufort distrik, Oos-Kaap AKA: Magdalena Christina van den Bergh Death: Burial: Father: Coenraad VAN DEN BERG (b 1775) Mother: Maria NORTJE (b 1779) Other spouse: Jacobus OOSTHUIZEN (m 27 Jul 1817) ======Children ======Prepared 28 Jan 2008 by: Johan Jacob Pottas Posbus 34559 Faunasig Bloemfontein 9325 051-5227329 / 0825693727 ======FAMILY NOTES Marriage(1):
HUSBAND NOTES: Matthys Johannes Marthinus DE BEER Chr(2): Hy is slegs Matthys Johannes de Beer gedoop. General: Hy is die seun van Samuel Jacobus de Beer en Elizabeth Magdalena van Staden.
WIFE NOTES: Magdalena Christina VAN DEN BERG Birth: (KAB MOOC 7/1/102.104) Chr(3): (KAB VC 686) NGK, as getuies teken Roelof van Tonderen en Maria Magdalena van den Bergh. Will: (KAB MOOC 7/1/102.104) Hulle gemeenskaplike testament word opgestel terwyl hulle woon op die plaas Dolf's Kraal in die Coup, Beaufort distrik. AKA: (KAB VC 686) NGK, Swellendam.
SOURCES 1. J.A. Heese and R.T.J. Lombard. South African Genealogies Vol 01: A-C. Pretoria, Human Sciences Research Council. 1986. p228 b. 2. DW de Beer en J de Beer. Die de Beer-Familie Drie eeue in Suid-Afrika. Maart 2005. 3. J.A. Heese and R.T.J. Lombard. South African Genealogies Vol 01: A-C. Pretoria, Human Sciences Research Council. 1986. p228 b.
Johan J Pottas Rekensentrum UV Tel: +27-51-401-2767 werk Tel: +27-51-522-7329 huis Tel: +27-82-569-3727 sel Faks: +27-51-401-2765 werk Posbus 34559, Faunasig, 9325
Boodskap 2a. NEL van Calitzdorp c 1874 Posted by: "Hugenote Museum" [email protected] Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:27 am (PST)
Hallo Johann,
Johanna Catharina Susanna NEL, gedoop Calitzdorp 24.12.1874 was die vierde oudste kind van Johannes Petrus NEL, gebore Groenfontein, Calitzdorp 28.8.1848, oorlede 1917 en Alberta Magdalena Johanna Catharina POTGIETER (x Oudtshoorn 5.7.1868), gebore ca 1848, d.v. Ernst Potgieter en Susanna Jacoba Frederika Gressel.
Alta le Roux van Oudtshoorn het my ongelooflik baie gehelp met Nel-inligting uit Calitzdorp se registers
Johannes Petrus NEL was 'n seun van Philip Rudolph NEL, gebore Oudtshoorn 20.4.1816; trou Swellendam 7.5.1837 Anna Lasya JOUBERT, gebore 7.12.1820, gedoop Paarl 10.9.1821, d.v. Gideon Daniel Joubert en Alida Elizabeth Johanna Rasp
Philip Rudolph Petrus NEL "kom voor" in SAG Deel 6 bl.98 as a b2 c3 d1 e2 f5 onbekend
Gideon JOUBERT is gebore 8.8.1873, gedoop Graaff-Reinet 21.12.1873, oorlede Senekal 16.11.1932. Boer Cyferfontein, Senekal, seun van Daniel Francois Joubert en Alida Elizabeth Johanna Joubert. Het jy sy "pedigree" ? Laat weet my as jy daarin belangstel
Vriendelike groete
Juna Malherbe FRANSCHHOEK
Boodskap 2b. Re: NEL van Calitzdorp c 1874 Posted by: "Johann Ahlers" [email protected] jahlers1 Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:25 am (PST)
Baie dankie, Juna - sal bestudeer en laat weet as ek kan aanvul of nog ander inligting benodig.
Vriendelike groete, Johann
Boodskap 3a. Re: Du Toit en Slabbert van distr. Nieu-Bethesda, oorl. circa 1918 Posted by: "Martie du Toit" [email protected] martie_dutoit Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:38 am (PST)
Charlette
Ek stuur vir jou aflyn meer inligting asook 'n foto van h1 se oupa en sy gesin - die foto hang in Reinethuis op Graaff-Reinet. Jou man se pa (h1) en my oupa was neefs en dit is dus hul gemeenskaplike oupa en ouma wat daar in die museum pryk.
Du Toit b5d1e8f6g7 (SAG 14 p 245) h1 Petrus Stephanus * 23.2.1883, ~ 6.5.1883 Graaff-Reinet geboer + 25.10.1918 aan huis te Schanskraal Murraysburg x Nieuw-Bethesda 29.11.1905 Francina Elizabeth SLABBERT * c.1882 + 21.10.1919 aan huis van mnr G. Pienaar te Nieu Bethesda d.v. Louis Abraham Francois Slabbert en Maria Magdalena NN van Bothashoek Graaff-Reinet i1 Maria Magdalena Dippenaar * 30.4.1910, ~ 9.10.1910 Nieuw-Bethesda x Daniel le Roux DU TOIT * 20.6.1909 van Worcester s.v. Matthys Michielse du Toit (Ds) en Anna Johanna le Roux van Barrydale
Daar is dalk nou medegeners wat jou kan help met die SLABBERTlyn asook dié van Ds MATTHYS MACHIELSE DU TOIT - lg het dalk 'n Basson konneksie iewers op die voorlyn aangesien ek daardie name baie spesifiek in die Bassonlyn raakgeloop het.
Groetnis MArtie
Martie du Toit Bellville 021 945 3356 / 083 597 0165 Du Toit b5c1d1e8f6g3h5i1j1 - Naudé a2b1c4d1e5f2g1[h1] Navorser Van Rooyen-familie, nageslag van Anthonius van Rooyen (Noordkaap)
Boodskap 4a. BISSCHOP/BISSCHOFF Posted by: "Ann Tiran" [email protected] anntiran Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:20 am (PST)
Hallo Charlie en ander
Ek sien julle skryf oor die BISSCHOFF stamboom.
My vriendin Bettie het hulle stamboom [boompie] vir my gegee maar haar ma was ‘n nooi BISSCHOP.
Sy vertel dat ALEXANDER BARTIEN BISSCHOP gebore 7.8.1866 oorlede 23.10.1901 die enigste familie in SA was met die van. Hy is getroud te Rustenburg 25.8.1890 met ELIZABETH MARIA LEWIS gebore 21.7.1871
Verder terug het sy geen inligting van hulle nie. Sy weet nie wanneer hy in SA aangekom het nie.
Alex en Elizabeth het 4 kinders gehad waarvan die tweede, ‘n seun HERMANUS [HARRY] gebore 12.5.1893 †19.8.1955 die stam aangedra het. Hy trou op 28.9.1920 met SUSANNA MAGDALENA PRINSLOO gebore 23.3.1897 oorlede 4.1.1981.
Hermanus en Susanna het 5 kinders…4 dogters en een seun. Die tweede dogter ELIZABETH MARIA gebore 23.9.1922 †oorlede 1.12.1995 trou op 12.6.1944 met DIRK JACOBUS VAN ZYL [voorheen geskryf VAN ZIJL] Dit is haar ouers. Bettie [my vriendin] het net een broer wat op sy beurt net ‘n dogter het….so hier loop hulle VAN ZYL stamboom dood. Sy is met ‘n Portugees getroud PATRICIO en hulle het twee seuns en twee dogters.
Het julle enigiets oor die familie? Ek het nog nie in SAG gekyk nie want Parow bib is so vertraag…hulle boeke hou op by die P’s en daar was bladsye wat los gekom het so dis van die rak afgehaal. Nou kom ek maar min daar.
Ek kan haar VAN ZYL stamboom ook aanstuur na die mense wat VAN ZYL navors.
Groete
Annatjie
Boodskap 4b. Re: BISSCHOP/BISSCHOFF (vir Ann Tiran) Posted by: "Charlie Els" [email protected] charlieels Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:51 pm (PST)
Hallo Annatjie,
Nee, ek het niks oor dié familie nie. In SAG Vol 1 bl.287 is wel bietjie inligting oor die Britse setlaar William Kant BISHOP, *1800 en sy kinders.
Groete,
CHARLIE
Boodskap 5. [Koerant ] The Mercury Woensdag 30 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "aletta magrieta.quebbemann" [email protected] alettaqea9fac Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:03 am (PST)
Vriende,
QUICKQUIP:- " I've often wanted to drown my troubles, but I can't get my wife to go swimming." Jimmy CARTER
GEBOORTES:- BOSHOFF Taryn & Mark 'n dogter Jorja Tia * 25/01/2008. Kleinkind en susters kind vir Peter & Denise en Jared FERGUSON.
JACKSON nee HIRSCH Den & Luci 'n seun Declan Joel * ??. Kleinkind vir Charles & Pam.
SNYMAN nee GAGE Morné & Justine 'n dogter Gabriella * 28/01/2008 in Parklands. Suster vir Joshua. 2de kleinkind vir Peter & Suzette.
VERJAARSDAG:- COWAN b WHITEHORN Melissa 13 jaar oud . Van grootouers Nan & Pops.
TODD Eric John 40 jaar vandag. Van Diana.
THERON Jolette 21 jaar oud . Van Ouers en Laetitia.
VERLOWINGS:- CRUICKSHANK Bruce & Michelle se dogter Lyndi aan Nick ,seun van Phil & Gail ROBERTS.
HOWARTH ~ RYAN Nick & Carol se dogter Debbie aan Angus, seun van Tom & + Wendy.
DOOD:- ALLAN IAN KELLAR 29/06/1917 ----25/01/2008 in Kaapstad. x Pam en + Yvonne. Pa van Carol, Dave, Mike en Sylvia.
BOSSE Bob (W01) . Man , pa en oupa. Van Val, Michelle, Jennifer, Clifford, Quinton, Mavis ,ouma en oumagroot.
DAVIS Beulah . Simpatie aan Yvonne , Gaye, Rose en families. Van lede en personeel by die Mount Edgecombe Country Club.
EWINS Vilma Laureen + 25/01/2008 . Geen byeenkoms op versoek.
HARMSWORTH Dawn Anne + 28/01/2008 x Ivan. Ma van Kerran, Todd en Ryan. Skoonma van Jenni en Kerri en ouma. Memorial by Athlone Park Methodiste Kerk op 31 Jan 2008 om 2nm.
HEATH Bronwyn 09/01/1986 ---25/01/2008. Al die pyn is nou weg van ouers ,Byron en jou baba Tegan. Memorial by Montclair Methodiste Kerk op 2/02/2008 om 10 vm.
HEISS Roland Gebhard 06/10/1946 ----25/01/2008 x Deirdre. Pa van Martin,Gabi en Rickard. Requiem Mass by The Star of the Sea Katolieke Kerk Umhlanga 01/02/2008 om 12 middag. Verassing privaat. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
KAST Tony .Simpatie aan Brenda en familie. Neef van Andrë, Anita en familie.
MACKIE Elizabeth + 28/01/2008 . Ma van Robin , Jean en Elspeth en al die kleinkinders. Begrafnis op 01/02/2008 om 11vm by St Agnes Church Kloof.
McMULLEN Thomas + 25/01/2008. Ware Skotsman. Vriend van Vivienne & Donald McKAY en hul dogters Susanne & Marc WRIGHT en kinders Jemma en Keagan; ook Lynne & Paul CRABTREE en hul kinders my-Sue en Luke. Ook van Paul Lynne Aimz Lukie CRABTREE.(2 berigte)
NIXON Robert Bell (Bob) Spesiela "Boet" vir Pat en "swaar" vir Mac. Sterf tragies 25/01/2008 Broer en oom vir Tracy, Penny, Mark en Sam. Man van Muriel. Pa van Grant, Lance, Shelley, en Frank. Oupa van Michelle, Megan , Hayley , Angela , Nikita en Danielle. Oupagroot van Emma .(4 berigte). Memorial by Port Edward Baptiste Kerk op 30/01/2008 om 2.30 nm.
PIETERSE (Pepe) Petrus Jacobus 24/01/1960 ----28/01/2008 . Gemis deur vrou en kinders , PIETERSE, & LUPKE families en vriende. Ingesit deur OAKLEIGH 031 2059959.
RIDGEWAY Tim Timothy James Anthony 13/06/1960 ---28/01/2008 . Van Ma.; Pa van Trav en Kyle.; Van jou blom Ren. ; Dankie dat jy so omgegee het vir Cal en Chlo Po. Van Laura, Eic en Taylor.;Broer en oom van Marc, Julie, Ray, Jaryd en Chelsea. Begrafnis by Christ Church Umhlanga 1/02/2008 om 3nm. (6 berigte )
RIDSDALE nee WANLESS Betty. Suster van Willi WANLESS en familie Gary, Roy, Jenny en Angie.; Ma ,ouma en oumagroot van Keith, Carol, Chantal, Steven en Daina. Nou dans sy met Tom. (2 berigte).
THOMPSON Kathleen Gwyneth (Kay) + 24/01/2008 (Haar 93 ste verjaarsdag x + Gerald (Tommy) . Dankie Tryphina vir versorging van ouma. Van Gail & Peter, Graham & Lynette, Robin & Caroline, Warwick, Monique en Cuan. Memorial by Durban Noord Methodiste Kerk 29/02/2008 om 5.30nm.
MEMORIAM:- HORN Carol .5 jaar dood nou. Suster van Elaine en familie.
JED ALAN MOL 22/10/1973 ------30/01/2007 Gemis deur Christie. Seun van Joop & Wendy. Broer van Wayne en Christie.
DANKIE:- GRONDEIN Dawn . Dankie aan ons ma vir versorging van Pa, Joseph. Van Brian , Susan en John.
CONSECRATION :- NELL GORDON .Onthulling van Steen 3/02/2008 by Redhill begraafplaas Joodse afdeling om 09.30 vm.
Groete uit WARM en Bedompige Durban. Rita Quebbemann
Boodskap 6a. Begraafplase Posted by: "Marie Bossert" [email protected] am2bert Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:01 pm (PST)
Môre almal,
Ek sien dat daar nou 'n bespreking is op die lys oor die saak van die opskrywing van die begraafplase. Ek weet gelukkig dat my Oupa en Ouma Nel op hulle plaas, Rietfontein 153, dist. Bronkhorstspruit begrawe was - Oupa in 1935 en Ouma in 1937. Ek vind dit ook nog steeds moeilik om vas te stel waar en wanneer my Oupa Botha aan vaderskant oorlede is, aangesien daar geen sterfkennis was vir hom nie en daar is ook nie 'n naam in enige van die begraafplaas inligting wat moontlik na hom kan verwys nie. Die enigste inligting wat ek van sy sterfdatum het is dat hy in ongeveer 1908 oorlede is, so daardie inligting sal seker nooit in my familieregister ingevoer kan word nie.
Ek voel net dat die opskryf van begraafplase eintlik onvolledig is aangesien die grafte wat nie kopstukke met name op het nie, se inligting is dan verlore. Ek dink dat 'n ander oplossing vir hierdie verlies sal moontlik wees om liewer die register van die begraafplase te skandeer en/of op te skryf dan gee dit mens 'n breër databasis. Daar was vele families wat deur moeilike tye gelewe het en net nie kon bekostig om kopstukke te laat oprig nie want daar was net eenvoudig nie fondse daarvoor nie. My eie broertjie wat in 1933 oorlede is se kopstuk was eers opgerig toe my vader in 1949 oorlede is.
Ek sou graag wil weet of daar miskien vooruitsigte bestaan waar die registers op een of ander wyse opgeskryf kan word of is so 'n taak nie bereikbaar nie?
Met vriendelike groetnis uit New Zealand, Marie Bossert.
Boodskap 6b. Re: Begraafplase Posted by: "Paul Bosman" [email protected] paul5016 Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:41 pm (PST)
Dagsê Marie
Wat was jou oupa Botha se name? Waar het hy gebly? Ek het gister verneem van ‘n Botha-begraafplaas (klein) op die plaas Tandem, langs Kleinfontein, distrik Rayton en beplan om dit binnekort te gaan afneem.
Groetnis Paul D Bosman ------my grootjies: BOSMAN X DE VILLIERS / VERSTER X DE KLERK / FROST X VON BENECKE / SYMINGTON X PIENAAR Ria s'n: BURGER X MOSTERT / MOSTERT X BRAND / KRUGER X VORSTER / KUHN X BREDENHAHN Posbus 1787 Rayton 1001 Tel: 012 802 1009, sel: 082 851 4039, Faks: 0866 581829 of 012 802 1009
Boodskap 7. Swellendam doopregisterfotos - finaal Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:25 pm (PST)
Hallo Medegeners,
Hierdie is die laaste van die fotos wat ek van die Swellendam-doopregister afgeneem het.
Ek sal nou die volledige spreiblad op FOTKI laat plaas.
Groetnis Annelie Pretoria.
KLEYNHANS
Susanna Maria 18 Nov 1826 4 Feb 1827 FATHER:- Evert Philippus Kleynhans MOTHER:- Elisabeth Hermina SPIES Witness Jan Daniel VAN COLLER Susanna Maria SPIES Johannes Jacobus SPIES Snr Anna Johanna Frederica SPIES
KLEYNSMIT
Dirk Cornelis 17 Oct 1826 25 Feb 1827 FATHER:- Ernst Hendrik Kleynsmit MOTHER:- Susanna Hermina LOURENS Witness Dirk Cornelis LOURENS & Cornelia Susanna GILDENHUIS Dirk Cornelis KLEYNSMIT & Sara Johanna SWART Dirk Cornelis UYS & Elisabeth Dirkina Cloete BLOMERUS
KATTWASSCHER
Martha Elisabetha Pieternella 3 Oct 1826 16 Apr 1827 FATHER:- Johan Nicolaas Kattwascher MOTHER:- Susanna Elisabeth Sophia VAN LOGGERENBERG
Witness Abraham Petrus LE ROE (LE ROUX) Elisabeth Magdalena CONRADIE Jacobus Daniel CONRADIE Sara Susanna Petronella KRIEL
KLEYNHANS
Stephanus Andries 7 Oct 1826 29 Apr 1827 FATHER:- Johannes Adolph Kleynhans MOTHER:- Magdalena Maria STEENBERG Witness Matthys Johannes UYS Judith Magdalena MOOLMAN
KOK
Johan Andries, DE 10 Nov 1828 26 Dec 1828 FATHER:-Michiel Josoas de Kok MOTHER:- Maria Barbara ?? Witness Johannes David KRIEL Rachel Jacoba DE KOK Johannes Lodewicus JORDAAN Margaretha Johanna Sophia DE KOK
KLEYNSMIT
Cornelia Johanna Margaretha 21 Sep 1828 28 Dec 1828 FATHER:- Ernst Hendrik Kleynsmit MOTHER:- Susanna Hermina LOURENS Witness Albertus Bernardus VAN NIEKERK Cornelia Johanna KLEYNSMIT Dirk Cornelis LOURENS Cornelia Susanna GILDENHUIS Johanna Cornelia Dorothea PAPENDORP
KLYNHANS
Jan Hendrik 21 Oct 1828 26 Dec 1828 FATHER:- Theodorus Ernest MOTHER:- Dorothea Regina VAN EEDEN Witness Evert Phillip KLYNHANS & Elizabeth Hermina SPIES Rachel Petronella KLYNHANS F.? Jacobus VAN EEDEN & Elsje Sophia CONRADIE
KLEYNHANS
Aletta Johanna 17 Oct 1828 26 Dec 1828 FATHER:- Evert Philippus Kleynhans MOTHER:- Elisabeth Hermina SPIES Witness Jan Hendrik KLYNHANS & Aletta Johanna BLIGNAULT Theodorus Ernest KLYNHANS & Dorothea Regina VAN EEDEN Gert VAN EEDEN & Aletta Johanna KLYNHANS
NIEUWENHUYS
Hendrik Johannes 12 Sep 1828 28 Dec 1828 FATHER:- Jan Alewyn Nieuwenhuys MOTHER:- Martha Susanna STEYN Witness Hendrik Johannes NIEUWENHUYS (this whole entry Susanna Hendrina PAULZEN was crossed out) Jacob Johannes DIEDERIKS Alida Christina DIEDERIKS
KOEN
Maria Elisabeth Frederika 28 Aug 1828 4 Jan 1829 FATHER:- Louis Jonas Koen MOTHER:- Hendrina Hermina VAN EEDEN Witness Frederik Jacobus VAN EEDEN Elsje Sophia CONRADIE Hans Jurie LINDE Susanna Jacoba LODEWYKS
KNOETZE
Anna Margaretha 10 Jun 1827 5 Jan 1829 FATHER:- Thomas Johannes Knoetze MOTHER:- Maria Johanna LANDMAN Witness Hendrik LANDMAN Anna DU BUYS Willem Adriaan LANDMAN Jaatje KLYNHANS
KLYNSMIT
Johannes Joachemus 29 Jan 1829 5 Apr 1829 FATHER:- Dirk Cornelis Klynsmit MOTHER:- Sara Johanna SWART Witness Johannes Joachemus SWART Maria Magdalena SWART Johannes Joachemus GELDENHUYS Sara Johanna KLYNSMIT Maria Magdalena KLYNSMIT
LEMMER
Sara Elisabeth ? Jul 1829 4 Oct 1829 FATHER:- Cornelis Janse Lemmer MOTHER:- Maria Susanna CROUS Witness Petrus Arnoldus CROUS & Sara Elisabeth DELPORT Elisabeth Helena UYS wed Chris. Frans GUNTER Christiaan Frans GUNTER Adriaan Isaak ODENDAAL & Johanna Jacoba UYS Matthys Johannes UYS & Dina Maria LOURENS
LOURENS
Martha Helena 9 Sep 1829 26 Dec 1829 FATHER:- Cornelis Janse LOURENS MOTHER:- Susanna Maria DE JAGER Witness Johannes Petrus DE JAGER Martha Helena CRONJE Fredrik Johannes Stephanus DE JAGER Alida Catharina UYS Dina Maria LOURENS Dirk Cornelis UYS Johanna Magdalena LOURENS
LEMMER
Lourens Badenhorst 1 Oct 1829 3 Jan 1830 FATHER:- Johannes Hermanus Richard Lemmer MOTHER:- Catharina Elisabeth BADENHORST Witness Lourens BADENHORST Snr Catharina Elisabeth MOOLMAN Lourens BADENHORST Jnr Maria Magdalena KLEYNSMITH (KLYNSMITH) Adriaan Isaac ODENDAL ( ODENDAAL) Elisabeth Lourensia BADENHORST Matthys Johannes UYS Alida Maria ODENDAL (ODENDAAL)
Boodskap 8. (Koerant) Beeld 31 Jan. 2008 Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:09 pm (PST)
HOFFMAN; Francina Johanna, in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: NH Kerk, Wonderboompoort, Pretoria, 01/02/2008, 13:00 # Zandfontein Begraafplaas, Pretoria. (Beeld - 31/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
KELLEN(H)ER; Mikyla * 11/06/2004. Caroline Kirstin KELLEHER * 15/05/1980 kontak Minka LANDMAN by 012-379-5860 oor aanneming van Mikyla. [Let wel, kind se van moet wees KELLEHER]. (Beeld - 30, 31/01/2008)
MATTHEWS; Catharina Jacoba, in lewe van Boksburg, Gauteng provinsie. Verassingsdiens: NG Klipkerk, Voortrekkerstraat, Boksburg, 01/02/2008, 14:00. (Beeld - 30, 31/01/2008) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Boksburg, 011-917-5041.
NN [ROELOFSE]; Ouma Susie. Begrafnisdiens: AGS Kerk van SA, Krugersdorp-Sentraal, h v Ockerse- en Jeppestraat, Krugersdorp, Gauteng provinsie, 02/02/2008, 10:00 # Sterkfontein Begraafplaas, Krugersdorp. (Beeld - 31/01/2008) Grobbelaars & Church Street Begrafnisdienste, Riviera, Pretoria, 012-329-3682.
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.
Boodskap 9a. TAB ondervinding aangebied Posted by: "cgviljoen" [email protected] frost_clan Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:42 pm (PST)
Beste Almal
Daar word dikwels op die lys raad gevra oor besoeke aan argiewe en ook oor fotos neem van dokumente. Hier is ‘n geleentheid om te leer!
Graag vra ek of daar iemand is wat begerig is om TAB ondervinding op te doen onder die leiding van iemand wat al heelwat werk daar en in ander argiewe gedoen het, naamlik Paul Bosman. Ons gaan môre (Vrydag) daar werk om vir Isak Bosman, wat op die punt staan om die geweldig bygewerkte Bosman register en familieboek te laat herdruk later vanjaar, die laaste Bosman SK’s in die TAB af te neem. Daar is nog bykans 300 sulke SK’s oor en Isak is gretig om die taak afgehandel te kry voor die verbod op kameras by die TAB ook in werking tree.
Aangesien ons net 3 mense is op die oomblik, en dus net 150 môre sal kan bestel, sal dit gaaf wees as enige iemand môre oggend daar ‘n draai kan maak en nog 50 vir ons bestel en daarna verdwyn sodat ons daaraan kan werk, maar dit is werklik ook ‘n geleentheid vir enige iemand wat nou al lankal wonder hoe mens by die TAB te werk gaan, en graag wil uitvind wat die vinnigste manier is om SK’s af te neem om bietjie te kom handjie bysit om die SK’s in die leêrs op te soek en oop te hou vir foto’s afneem en sodoende te leer.
As daar iemand is wat hierdie geleentheid wil gebruik, of kan help om te kom SK’s aanvra, laat weet ons asb daarvan sodat ons kan reël hoe laat ons jul waar kan ontmoet.
Groete Susan
Paul Bosman Tel: 012 802 1009, sel: 082 851 4039,
Susan Viljoen Alberton, South Africa/Suid-Afrika Licensed Scrap-ther-a-P™ Memory Healing Practitioner Licence no 11/010/16
Boodskap 9b. Re: TAB ondervinding aangebied Posted by: "Sarel Burger" [email protected] sarel.burger Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:17 pm (PST)
Dit laat my dink aan die storie van Liewe Heksie wat haar vriende uitgenooi het vir 'n swembadpartyjie. Hulle moes net grawe en kruiwaens saambring!
Sarel
Boodskap 9c. Re: TAB ondervinding aangebied Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] boerseun_1838 Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:35 pm (PST)
Goeiedag almal.
Sommer 'n gedagte. 150 SK's behoort die ouens by die argief nogal besig te hou.
Miskien is dit nie 'n slegte idee dat lede van die poslys in die toekoms ook so 'n kennisgewing op die lys plaas wanneer hulle van plan is om so 'n reuse taak aan te pak nie.
Dan weet ander ouens wat vinnig wil ingaan om 1 SK aan te vra, om eerder op 'n ander dag te gaan.
Sterkte aan julle more. Ek is egter nie so seker of hulle 150 SK in een dag sal kan lewer. Ek het in die verlede al baie lank gewag vir slegs 'n paar en dan ook nog op 'n "stil" dag.
Groete.
Louis Engelbrecht
Boodskap 10. Re : [BP] DNA toetse Posted by: "MontXsuZ-point-ca" [email protected] montxsuz Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:54 pm (PST)
Vir Scott, Yvonne, Karen, Frans en andere:
Vir my toetse het ek het Family Tree DNA (VSA) gebruik by http://www.familytreedna.com/
Een van die redes waarom ek hulle gekies het is omdat hulle al die toetse vir National Geographic se Genographic projek doen: https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/
FTDNA het sover baie goeie diens gelewer - customer satisfaction. Jy kan ook direk by National Geographic se projek aansluit. Dalk spaar jy 'n paar dollar. Dit monsters gaan steeds na FTDNA se laboratorium toe.
Ek oorweeg dit om ook 'n toets by SMGF te laat doen. Maar vir Van Rensburgs het ek 'n spesiale afslag gereel by Family Tree DNA (FTDNA).
Groete Christo
------Christo van Rensburg Vancouver, BC, Canada En belle Colombie Britannique ------Janse van Rensburg X Cronje; Barnard X Schoeman Herselman X Kriel; Wright X Breytenbach (1876 Bethulie; 1883 Philippolis; 1879 Kareedouw?; 1889 Wepener) http://www.montxsuz.ca/familie/ ------
Boodskap 11. Nederlands (Johan van Breda) Posted by: "Elmien Wood" [email protected] Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:09 pm (PST)
As ek so iets soos "Jan Mahieu" "Secrets." gesien het, het ek gewoonlik in gepubliseerde bronne gekyk of daar op daardie tyd so iemand soos Jan Mahieu was wat sekretaris van die Kompanjie was.
Op die oomblik is ek besig met die mense wat tans nog leef en "wegkruip", dus is ek nie meer so op hoogte van die Kompanjiestyd nie.
Daar behoort iemand te wees wat kan help. Wat ek wou sê is dat die skrif en die spelling so varieer, dat 'n mens gewoonlik van ander middelle gebruik moet maak om jou antwoord te kry.
Groete Elmien
Boodskap 12. Coertzen (Gert Coertzen) Posted by: "Elmien Wood" [email protected] Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:09 pm (PST)
Gert
Stuur vir my asseblief meer besonderhede. Die stammoeder van die Spiese was aanvanklik met 'n Koertz getroud. Hulle nageslagte het mettertyd "Coertzens" of "Coertze" geword.
As jy vir my plekke en datums kan stuur, sal ek kyk of ek hulle aan die mense kan hak was ek het.
Groete Elmien
Boodskap 13. Basson, Grobbelaar en De Villiers Posted by: "Annemie Lourens" [email protected] annemielourens Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:47 pm (PST)
Goeiedag al weer ek en die Bassons.
Enige De Villiers en Grobbelaar navorsers kan my dalk hier help? Coenraad Hendrik Basson gedoop 9 Aug 1798 Drakenstein, trou met Isabella Maria de Villiers 6 May 1820 Paarl trou tweede keer met Alida Alida Johanna GROBBELAAR op 1 Mar 1823, Paarl. Alida Johanna GROBBELAAR se ouers is Johannes Grobbelaar en Anna Magdalena Du Toit. Enige inligting oor die familie sal waardeer word, ek het maar bitter min.
Groete Annemie Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 3091
Datum: Thu Jan 31, 2008
Daar is 18 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: TAB ondervinding aangebied From: Patricia Finlay
1b. Re: TAB ondervinding aangebied From: cgviljoen
1c. Re: TAB ondervinding aangebied From: Ariel Rudolph
2a. Re: BISSCHOP/BISSCHOFF Ann2 From: kerrieborrie
2b. Re: BISSCHOP/BISSCHOFF Ann2 From: Ann Tiran
3a. Re: Re : [BP] DNA toetse From: Karin Serfontein
4a. Re: Swellendam doopregisterfotos - finaal From: [email protected]
5. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 28 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
6. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 29 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
7. Louisa Jakoba J. van Rensburg - Geb : 1843 Nokkersdam?, Bloemfontein From: Elmien Wood
8a. TAB - besoek From: Annelie Els
9. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 30 Januarie 2008 From: P Marx
10a. Re: Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe opskryf. From: Wim van Zyl
11a. De Beer, Van Bosch, Zandberg From: Annemie Lourens
11b. Re: De Beer, Van Bosch, Zandberg From: J van der Grijp
11c. Re: De Beer, Van Bosch, Zandberg From: J van der Grijp
11d. Re: De Beer, Van Bosch, Zandberg From: J van der Grijp
12. BOSMAN Hendrina Maria From: [email protected] Boodskap 1a. Re: TAB ondervinding aangebied Posted by: "Patricia Finlay" [email protected] pajfil Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:17 am (PST)
'n Wonderlike geleentheid! Eerstens, waar is die TAB? m.a.w. die adres? Ek stel regtig belang. Kan u miskien meer besonderhede aandui, soos hoe laat ons daar moet wees, enigiets wat ons moet saambring.. Ek was nog nooit by die argiewe nie maar is van plan om volgende maand die NAAIRS to besoek. Die is sommer naby my. (EK het onlangs na Pretoria verhuis).
Dankie
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Boodskap 1b. Re: TAB ondervinding aangebied Posted by: "cgviljoen" [email protected] frost_clan Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:39 am (PST)
Beste Almal
Jip, Sarel, jy’s reg! Wens daar was by die TAB ‘n plekkie om vir almal rooi koeldrank ook te koop! Mens probeer maar! :-)
Louis, ek dink nie jy behoort afgeskrik te wees as jy dalk môre wou gegaan het nie. 150 SK’s beteken net 3 mense se kwota. Daar is op enige gegewe tyd gewoonlik meer as 3 mense in ‘n argief. Toe ek verlede jaar by die KAB was en slegs my paar dae gehad het om honderde en honderde rekords (nie net SK’s wat relatief vinnig is om na te gaan nie), het ek op my eie op sekere dae by ‘n 100 rekords geraadpleeg en daar was elke dag tussen 5 en 8 mense op ‘n slag daar aan die werk wat almal aan die gang gehou is deur die personeel.
Ek dink egter dit is ‘n goeie voorstel dat mense wat nou nog baie rekords het om op te soek by die TAB wat nog kameras toelaat, dit op die lys sit sodat iemand wat dalk in elk geval maklik daar kan verbygaan, hul kan help rekords aanvra as jy weet jy sal meer as 50 op ‘n dag kan verwerk. Ek dink dit sou ‘n onbaatsugtige daad wees om vir iemand te doen, veral as so iemand van ver reis om rekords te kry, soos wat ek Kaapstad toe gereis het. Dit sou nooit die moeite werd vir my gewees het om daardie afstand af te lê as ek net 50 rekords op ‘n dag kon kry nie – verblyf sou te veel gekos het.
As daar enige iemand op die lys is wat ‘n soortgelyke reis wil aanpak uit die Kaap en ‘n dag of twee drie moet oorbly, sal ek graag persoonlik so iemand wil help om verblyf te kry teen ‘n redelike prys en as dit ‘n saak met meriete is, sal ek selfs van Alberton af ry om so iemand te help om genoeg rekords aan te vra. Ons werk immers teen tyd hier!
Groete Susan Susan Viljoen Alberton, South Africa/Suid-Afrika Licensed Scrap-ther-a-P™ Memory Healing Practitioner Licence no 11/010/16
Boodskap 1c. Re: TAB ondervinding aangebied Posted by: "Ariel Rudolph" [email protected] arielrudolph Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:03 am (PST)
Pat,
Dit gaan bietjie moeilik wees om NAAIRS fisies te gaan besoek. Dit is die elektroniese National Automated Archival Information Retrieval System. :) Gewoonlik besoek mense NAAIRS aanlyn. As jy die TAB wil gaan besoek dan is dit te vinde by 24 Hamilton Straat.
Groete -- Ariel Israel (Tans in die VSA alweer) Navorsing: Die hele RUDOLPH van http://rudolph-gen.com
Boodskap 2a. Re: BISSCHOP/BISSCHOFF Ann2 Posted by: "kerrieborrie" [email protected] kerrieborrie Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:53 am (PST)
Variasies is: Bischof, Bischoff,Bisschof,Bisschoff ge-anliseerd as Bishop. Iets is verander in Bisschop...
Boodskap 2b. Re: BISSCHOP/BISSCHOFF Ann2 Posted by: "Ann Tiran" [email protected] anntiran Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:25 am (PST)
Betty se vader het die eerste BISSCHOP [nie soos jy sè hieronder nie dat iets verander is aan die spelling!!! ] se geboorte sertifikaat gehad waarvandaan hy die inligting geneem het..hulle blyk DIE ENIGSTE familie met daardie spelling in SA te wees.
Boodskap 3a. Re: Re : [BP] DNA toetse Posted by: "Karin Serfontein" [email protected] Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:32 am (PST)
Hi Christo,
Baie dankie, ek het ook reeds toetse by FTDNA laat doen. Ek stem saam hulle is baie effektief - ek het ook by SMGF laat toets.
Geniet 'n baie lekker dag,
Karin.
Boodskap 4a. Re: Swellendam doopregisterfotos - finaal Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] rvanzijl Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:41 am (PST)
Hallo Annelie
Baie dankie vir die werk wat jy gedoen het.
Baie mense sal dit nuttig gebruik ek is seker.
Groete
Richard van Zijl
Boodskap 5. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 28 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:04 am (PST)
Geboortes OBERHOLZER, Dewald en Kerry. Seun, Damien Jared, *Donderdag 24 Januarie 2008. Ma, Oumie, Schalk en Daynah. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 28/01/2008)
In Memoriam MINNAAR, Jan Josua. +28 Januarie 2007. Johan, Klasie, Marius, Eugene, Karina en gesinne. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 28/01/2008)
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 6. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 29 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:04 am (PST)
Sterfgevalle SMUTS, Letitia Jemima. +Saterdag 26 Januarie 2008. Kinders, kleinkind. Roudiens Woensdag 30 Jan 2008 11:00 NG Kerk Moedergemeente. Verassing privaat. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 29/01/2008) Alfred Jones AVBOB Port Elizabeth 041 484 2731
In Memoriam CAROLUS, George. +29 January 2007. Wife Ivy and Daphne. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 29/01/2008)
LANDSBERG, Thora. 23 jaar is vandag verby. Seun Willem. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 29/01/2008)
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 7. Louisa Jakoba J. van Rensburg - Geb : 1843 Nokkersdam?, Bloemfontein Posted by: "Elmien Wood" [email protected] Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:43 am (PST)
Christo
Een van my Spiese, Andreas Theodorus, is met Maria Magdalena Fourie getroud. Ek weet die Spiese en Fouries het op twee buurplase in die distrik van Swellendam geboer. Het jy vir my Maria Magdalena se ouers? (Ek dink haar pa was Louis Fourie 'n veldkornet, maar ek is nie seker nie.)
Ek stem nie saam met die ouers van Michiel Christiaan Horn nie. Volgens die dooppatroon van hulle kinders is sy ouers Johannes Willem Horn & Petronella Cecilia le Roux. Ek kan natuurlik verkeerd wees, maak net seker van waar jy jou inligting vandaan gekry het.
Ek het Martha Magdalena se sterfbesonderhede as Oudebosch, Vetterivier op 15.6.1844 (33j 9m 20d). Ek het hom ook as oorlede op Weeskraal in die distrik van Colesberg.
Nommer 12, Mientjie, is 'n ander saak. Ek het die hele saga uitgerafel en dit gepubliseer in Capensis. Die eerste artikel is in die Desember uitgawe van 2006 en die tweede artikel in Maart van 2007. Ek sou regtig voorstel dat jy die kopië by Sasa Malan bestel. Ek is nie seker van die prys nie, ek dink dit is so R15 per eksemplaar. Haar e-posadres is [email protected]
Daardie Adolph Jonker het kinders by twee Spiessusters gehad en ook by twee Vosloosusters. Die Spiese en die Vosloo's was niggies.
Groete Elmien
Boodskap 8a. TAB - besoek Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000 Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:41 am (PST)
Hallo Almal, veral die wat belangstel in die TAB,
Ek is betrokke by die afneem van fotos vir die eGGSA-groep. Het met Gerhard Duminy gepraat oor die kamera-verbod by die TAB. Hy het my verseker dat solank as wat die mense hulle - soos hy dit gestel het -'gedra' sal hy nie `n verbod instel nie. (hierie is vir die mense wat nog nie by die TAB Argief besoek afgelê het nie.) Daar is reëls wat gehandhaaf moet word. Geen kameraflits of enige ekstra beligting word toegelaat nie. Ek gebruik `n driepoot en hulle het glad nie daarmee `n probleem nie. Solank jy nie meer as een dokumente-boks op `n slag op die tafel het nie is dit in die hak. Die boeke wat behoorlik gebind is neem ek twee-twee tafel toe. Hulle laat dit toe. Ek gebruik 'clips' om die bladsye mee vas te hou. Nie die 'bulldog' soort nie, hulle skeur die bladsy. Ek het van die wat `n plaatjie is wat in `n 'U' gebuig is met twee handvatseltjies wat mens druk om hulle oop te kry. Die punt van daardie 'clips' is rond.
Gelukkig het hulle opwekkers so die kragbeurt raak nie die Argief nie.
Voorspoed met die taak van more.
Pat Finlay:- indien jy belangstel sal ek vir jou `n kaart van die paaie na die Argief stuur.
Groetnis Annelie Pretoria
Boodskap 9. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 30 Januarie 2008 Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected] Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:10 am (PST)
Sterfgevalle BASSON, Chanique. Begrafnisdiens Donderdag 31 Jan 2008 11:00 Gemeentes van Christus, Kabega. Forest Hill-begraafplaas. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 30/01/2008) First Ave Funeral Home 041 581 5028
BEZUIDENHOUT, Bee (née BUCHNER.) +Woensdag 23 Jan 2008. Suster, kinders, kleinkinders. Begrafnisdiens Donderdag 31 Jan 2008 09:00 CP Bradfield Metodiste- aftreeoord, Sunridgepark van waar stoet vertrek na Steytlerville. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 30/01/2008) Alfred Jones AVBOB Port Elizabeth 041 484 2731
HEYMAN, Alta. +26/01/2008. Danie, Ria, Ewerard, Leoné en familie. Gedenkdiens Donderdag 31 Jan 2008 11:00 Bothasrus NG Kerk. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 30/01/2008)
KOCH, Maria Magdalena (Ria) *26/10/1924. +Maandag 28 Jan 2008 op Humansdorp. Eggenoot, kinders, kleinkinders. Begrafnisdiens Donderdag 31 Jan 2008 15:00 NG Kerk Kompleks, Jeffreysbaai. Munisipale-begraafplaas, Jeffreysbaai. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap30/01/2008) Bokkie Els AVBOB Humansdorp 042 291 1230
LEMLEY, Paul. +Saterdag 26 Jan 2009. Roudiens Donderdag 31 Jan 2008 10:30 Algoa- kapel. Verassing privaat. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 30/01/2008) Miemie Grobler Algoa Begrafnisdienste 041 363 4874
SIMON, Les. The E P Rugby Union bemourns the death of Les Simon, ex EP and Transvaal player, referee and administrator. Sincere condolences to Sally and the children. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 30/01/2008)
SMUTS, Letitia. +26 Jan 2008. Hermann, Tania en Neil. Roudiens Woensdag 30 Jan 2008 11:00 NG Kerk Moedergemeente, Noordeinde. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 30/01/2008)
VOS, Marthinus Johannes. (vroeër van N'Donga, Lady Frere). *29/03/1923 +26/01/2008 Begrafnisdiens Donderdag 31 Jan 2008 10:00 vanuit Huis Formosa, Joubertina. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 30/01/2008). Diederik Vos DOVES Oudtshoorn 044 279 1600
In Memoriam VAN LOGGENBERG, Christopher. 30/01/2002 - 30/01/2008. Ma en pa. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 30/01/2008)
Hester Marx Loerie Oos-Kaap
Boodskap 10a. Re: Verlorenes in Plaaskerkhowe opskryf. Posted by: "Wim van Zyl" [email protected] williecor Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:56 am (PST)
Dagsê Annelie
As daar iemand in Aliwal Noord kom, ek weet van grafte wat waar Robertse/Robertsen begrawe is. So 8 jaar terug was die grafte al moeilik leesbaar. Die datums was vroeg 1800.
Groete Wim
Boodskap 11a. De Beer, Van Bosch, Zandberg Posted by: "Annemie Lourens" [email protected] annemielourens Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:32 pm (PST)
Goeiedag Lede
Ek is op soek na inligting van my De Beer ouma se familie Daniel Johannes de Beer gebore 16 Jun 1890, Graaff Reinet. Sterf 20 Sep 1957. Hy trou met Maria Elizabeth van Bosch sy is gebore op 28 Aug 1896 in die Transvaal sy sterf 19 Nov 1939 in Garies. Haar ouers is Jan Antonie van Bosch en Maria Elizabeth Jeanetta Zandberg.
Ek soek meer inligting van die Maria Elizabeth van Bosch, my ma het haar name en ons het min inligting van haar. Ek soek veral inligting oor haar ouers want ek het op die stadium net hul name.
Dalk is daar persone wat gewerk het aan die Van Bosch en Zandberg families. Is daar dalk iemand wat inligting het van Garies se begrafplaas?
Groete Annemie Lourens
Boodskap 11b. Re: De Beer, Van Bosch, Zandberg Posted by: "J van der Grijp" [email protected] jacquesvdg Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:46 pm (PST)
Dag Annemie.
Hul al twee is in die DE BEER lyste. Wat wil jy weet?
Vriendelike Groete Jacques van der Grijp
Boodskap 11c. Re: De Beer, Van Bosch, Zandberg Posted by: "J van der Grijp" [email protected] jacquesvdg Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:46 pm (PST)
Dag Annemie.
Hul al twee is in die DE BEER lyste. Wat wil jy weet?
Vriendelike Groete Jacques van der Grijp
Boodskap 11d. Re: De Beer, Van Bosch, Zandberg Posted by: "J van der Grijp" [email protected] jacquesvdg Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:46 pm (PST)
Dag Annemie.
Hul al twee is in die DE BEER lyste. Wat wil jy weet?
Vriendelike Groete Jacques van der Grijp
Boodskap 12. BOSMAN Hendrina Maria Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] helgard_holtzhausen Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:27 pm (PST)
Dagsê Almal
Ek is opsoek na inligting oor Hendrina Maria BOSMAN *ca 1910 x (ca 1929) Jan Johannes Andries HOLTZHAUSEN hulle kinders was Jurgens Johannes (3 Feb 1930- 29 Sep 1981) van sy SK 13262/81 Sarel Jacobus Petrus (15 Jun 1937- ) Jan Johannes (12 Aug 1940- ) Hendrina se tweede huwelik xx (ca 1950) NN BOTHA Hendrina se pa was ook Sarel. Die 2e seun is waarskynlik na hom vernoem. Haar moeder het later met Sarel se broer, J P BOSMAN getrou. Hendrina was een van 11 kinders, o.a. Manus, Sarel, Jacoba, Anna, Poppy
Help asseblief Groete Helgard Holtzhausen