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Also, the petition of 9 citizens of Jefferson County, , of similar Mr. EDMUNDS. L et the House bill be laid aside until wo get import, to the same committee. through with the morning business. lly lr. SCUDDER, of New York: The petition of engineers in the Mr. RAl\iSEY. Very well. United States revenue service, that a sistant ngineers be duly com­ PETITIOXS AND l\1EMORIALS. missioned as such, to the Committee on Commerce. By 1\fr. SMART: The petition of J. M. Warren, Thomas Coleman, Mr. LOGAN' presented the petition of William n. Brown, of Mefu:op­ and others, of Troy, New York, against further inflat ion of the cur­ olis, 1fas ac County, Illinois . praying the payment of Tennessee, and appropriated for public u e; By Mr. ---: Resolutions of the Legislature of New York, in re­ which wa refened to the Committee on Claims. lation to inflation of the currency through the further i sue of circu­ Mr. SCHURZ presented additional p apers pertaining to the appli­ cation of Sarah E . Ballantine, of Boonville, Mi souri, praying com­ lating note~ by the Government or bY. national banks, and. transmit­ ting a copy of the message of the governor of the State of New York pensation for property de troyed by order of General Lyon; which to both houses of the Lebrislature ou the subject, to the Committee were refened to tho Committee on Claims. on Banking and Currency. Mr. CONKLING presented a memorial of the Buffalo Board of 'l'rade, in favor of the removal of the obstructions in the Saginaw River, at Carrolton bar; which was referred to the Committee on Commerce. He also presented the petition of Mary Jane Loonic, widow of James A. Loonie, late of the Eighty-eighth New York Volunteers, IN SENATE. praying a modification of the pension laws so a~ to allow h er to on­ tract and pay such fees as she thinks proper; which was referred to WEDNESDAY, April 15, 1874. the Committee on Pensions. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES. Prayer by the Chaplain, Rev. BYRO~ su~DERLAND, D. D . The Journal of yesterday's proceeiings wa read and approved. Mr. PRATI. The Committee ou Claim, to whom was referred the memorial of J esse Warren and Joseph A. Moore, a king compensa­ ffiSSAGE FROl\1 THE HOUSE. t ion for a building t.a:ken for the use of the Army, near Nashville, A messaO'e from the Hou e of Representatives, by Mr. fcPIIERSON, Tenne ee, have instructed me to r port a bill for their relief. We its Clerk, ~nnounced that the Hou.,e ha!:l pas eel a bill (H. R. No.1572) adopt in this ca e a report made at a previous se sion, which ba.s to amend the several a~ts providing a national Cfu"Tency, and. toes­ been printed.. · I do not t he1·efore ask for the printing of the rep9rt. t.ablish free banking, and for other puxposes; in which the concur­ The bill (S. No. 701) for the relief of Warren & Moore, Nashville, rence of the Senate wa xequested. Tenne see, was read and pa eel to the second reading. Tbe me age also announced that i.he House had concurred in the l\fr. SCOTT. The Committee on Claims instructed me to report amendments of the Senate to the followinO' bills : back the petition of G. A. H enderson, praying payment of his salru:y A bill (H. R. No. 1003) to authorize and fuoct the Secretaryof War as a clerk in the Treasury Department while suspended by order of to change the name of John Rziha, captain of the Fourth Regiment the Secretary from January 2o, 1864, to fay 18,1865, -n"'ith the recom­ of Infantry of the Army of the United States, in the register, rolls, mendation that it ought not to be allowed. I move the adoption of and records of the Army, to John Laube de Laubenfels; the report, and that it be printed. A bill (H. R. No. 1930) to secure to the Episcopal Board of Missions The motion wa~ agreed to. the land of the White Earth Imlian reservation in linne.sota; Mr. SCOTT, from the Committee on Claims, to whom was referred .A. bill (H. R. o. 1942) authorizing the President of the United States the memorial of Frederic A. Holden, praying for remuneration for to appoint Albert Ro s to the active li t of the Navy; and property destroyed in Ceredo, Wayne County, We t Virginia, by A bill (H. R. No. 2186) granting an A.J.nerican registry to the Amer­ United States soldiers during the late rebellion, submitted an aclver e ican-built Peruvian steamship Rayo, now rebuilt in the United States report thereon; which was ordered to be printed: and the committee and converted into a sailing-ve sel. was clischarged from the further consideration of the memorial. The mes a.ge further announced that the Hou e hn.d passed the bill Mr. ~lliRRIMON, from the Committee on Claims, to-whom was re­ (S. No. 617) to fix the amount of nited States notes and the circula­ ferred the memorial of Ellen Call Long, praying for payment of the tion of national banks, aml for other purposes. claim of the heirs of Richard. K. Call in accordance with a jutigment E:~"'ROLLED BILL SIGNED. of the United States court of Florida, submitted an adver e report Themes age also annotmced that the Speaker of the House had thereon; which was ordered to be printed, and the committee was signed the following emolled. bills; and they were thereupon signed ilischargecl from t-he further consideration of the memorial. by the President IJ'I'O tempm·e : · l\fr. GOLDTHWAITE, from the Committee on Claims, to whom was A bill (S. No. 5 0) to authorize the employment of certain aliens as referred the bill (S. No. 113) for relief of the trustees of Wildey engineers and pilots; · ~ Lodge, Independent Order of Odd-Fellows, reported adversely thereon; A bill (S. No. 191) to amend the act entitled "An act relating to the and the lJill was postponed indefinitely. enrollment and license of certain vessels ;" and BILLS L~TRODUCED • .A. bill (S. No. 192) for the relief of Siloma Deck. 1\fr. WEST asked, and by unanimous con ent obtained, leave to HOUSE BILLS REFERRED. introduce a bill (S. No. 702) for the relief of Marie P. Evans, execu­ The following bills from the House of Representatives were sever­ trix and legatee of S. Duncan Lint-on, decea ed, and to refer her ally read twice by their titles, an d referred as indicated below: claim to the Court of Chtims; which was read t\vice by its title, and The bill (H. R. No. 1215) to revi&e and consolidate the statutes of referred to the Committee on Claims. - · the Uirited States in force ori the 1st day of: December, A. D. 1873- to Mr. GOLDTHW.AITE' asked, and by unanimous consent obtainecl, the Committee on the Revision of the Laws of the United Stn.tes. leave to introduce a bill (S. No. 703) authorizing the proper account­ The bill (H. R. No. 2425) to provide for the free exchange of news­ ing officers of the Treasury to revise and adjn t the accounts of James papers between publishers, and for the free transmi ion of news­ C. Pickett as charge d'affaires to Peru; which was read twice by its papers by mail within the county where published- to the Committee tit.le, and referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations. on Post-Offices and Po t-Roacls. Mr. KELLY asked, and by unanimou consent obtained, leave to The bill (H. R. No. 2899) revising and embodying all the laws au­ introduce a bill (S. No. 704) for the relief of the officers and men of thorizing post-roads in force on the 1st day of December, 1 73- to the United States Army who were sufferers by the wreck of the bark the Committee on the Revision of the Laws of the United States. Forrest; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Com­ Tho bill (H. R. No. 2979) abolishing the office of appraiser of im­ mittee on Military Affairs. ported merchandise, appointed under the act of July H, 1 70, and 1\Ir. FENTON (by request) asked, and by unanimous consent ob­ acts amendatory thereof, at certain places- to the Committee on tained, leave to introduce a bill (S. No. 705) to extend letters-patent Finance. . to Henry G. BuUcl.ey; which was read twice by it title, and referred. The bill (H. R. No. 994) to e talllish the Bismarck land district in the to the Committee on Patents. Territory of Dakota was read twice by its title. l\fr. CRAGIN a kefl, and. by unanimous consent obtained, leave to The PRESIDENT pro tempore. This bill will be referred to the introduce a bill (S. No. 706) to amend an act approved July 17, 186i, Committee on Public Lands. entitled ''An act for the better government of the Navy of the United 1\Ir. RAMSEY. The Committee ou Public L ands have reported a States;" which was rea

1874. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. 3081 w introduce a bill (S. No. 707) to reimburse the State of West Vir­ Thereupon the SeJlator from Mis ouri made a certain statement ar; to ginia for mol?-eys expen~led for ~he Unit~d ~tates iu.eurolliug, sub­ the nature of the bill and the Senator from Vermont askeu a certain sisting, clothmg, snpplymg, armmg, eqmpptng, pa,nng, and t.rans­ question. The pending question now is, Will the Senate proceed to porting militia forces to aitl in suppressing t he reuellinn ; which w:v the consideration of this bill¥ which is subject to debate, limitet'l. by 1·ead twice by its title, referred to the Co.aunittee on .Military .Affairs, the rule that the merits shall not be discussed. and ordered to be printed. .l\lr. BOGY. I will relieve the Senator from Indiana. of anytronble on t.hat subject. The Senator from Vermont desi.res to examine the PRIVATE L.A:tD CLATI\18 I:Y 1\fiSSOURI. bill, and I have no objection to giving him bime to U.o so. I sb:ill call Mr. BOGY. I move that Senate bill No. 32 be taken up. It is a up the bill to-monow morning. I withdraw .the motion now. vory important bill, I will state to the Senate. 1\fr. PRATT. I object. I am very desirous of having the Calendar DISTRICT PUBLIC-SCHOOL TEACHERS. called. . Th~ morning hour was taken up yesterd::ty in the considera­ l\Ir. SPENCER. I move that the Senate proceetl to the considera­ tion Qf a speci:ll bill. tion of the bill (H. R. No. 2550) making appropriation for tbe pay­ The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Senator from makes ment of teachers in the public schools in t.he District of Columbia, his motion i and the bill will be read for information, after which the and providing for the levy of a tax to reimburse the same. question will be snbmHted to the Senate. The bill was read. The Chief Clerk read the amendment proposed by the Commit tee The PRESIDENT Jn·o tempore. I s ther e objection to the present on Private Land Claims as a substitute for the bill (S. No. JJ) obvi­ consideration of the bill¥ ating the necessity of issuing pa.tents for certain private lanu claim::; Mr. PRATT. I object. in the State of Missouri, a.nd for other pnq)o cs. The PH.E IDENT pro tempm·e. Then the question i on the motion Mr. EDMUNDS. What committee reported that of 1he Senator from . to proceed to the consiueration of the The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Committee on Private Land bill. ClaiiM. Mr. BORE~fAN . The Senator from South Carolina [Mr. RonEnT­ 1\fr. EDMUNDS. When¥ SON] has gone home for a few days, and before going he wisheu me The PRESIDENT pro tempore. On the 3d of March. to say that he desired to speak to this bill an1l would be glau that Mr. BOGY. I will state for the information of the Senate that it should be laid over nntil his retmn. He will be back in three or t.hls bill was reported by the Committee on Private Lanu Claims four u,tys, I presume. I make this statement at his request. unanimously, and has also receiveu the approbation of the Com­ Mr. SPENCER. I de in'l to st.ate that there is a pressing nece sity missioner of the General Land Office ; and it involves no appropria­ for the passage of this bill. There is great de titution among the tion or donation of land. The only object is to do away with the teachers. The taxes which were intended for their payment have nece ity of issuing patents ; and the necessity for it grows out of a been appropriated for other purpo es, and many of them are in a decision of the Supreme Court, made recently, to the effect that our starving condition. The Senator from South Carolina objected to the s~'l.tute of limitations does not begin to run until the patent is ue . bill in committee, but I do not think he would press his objection on That decision i not in accordance with the legal opinion of the bar of more full consideration. my State for the last forty years; and patents in very few cases have Mr. MORRILL, of Vermont. I really think something ought to be been issued, we deeming that the confirmation was sufficient and had done with this bill. It oufTht not to be delayed. I do not kuow that passed the entire title of the United St~tes . Under the decision of it is in precisely the shape in which it ought to pass ; but at all events the .Supreme Court, as long as the nominal legal title remains in the it seems to me that we ought not to shirk the consiueration of the Governme11t, the limitation provided by the ln.w of the State does question. I trust we will take it up and consider it this morning. not be-gin to run. The consequence is that a very wide field of liti­ l\lr. BOREMA.N. I do not wish to be understood as objecting to the ~ation is thereby opened. The object of this bill is to close that bill myself. I am yielding to the request of my frienu who ha gone field of litigation.. I t involves no appropriation, or donation, or grant home. I have discharged that duty. of land. Mr. CONK.LIXG. How long will he be gone. Mr. EDMUNDS. I wish the Senator from Missouri would let this Mr. BOREi\fAN . .A short time. bill go over until to-morrow. I think it ought to lie over. I think 1\Ir. CONKLING. Two or three weeks¥ Senators ought to investigate it. I am bound to say for one, if it·is Mr. BORE~I.AN . I think not. I think he will be back in a few of any advantage to the Supreme Comt that I should say so, thn,t I days. think they decided the question to which the Senator refers cor­ Mr. COXKLING. I heiiJ a Senator on my left say that the absent rectly, because it is a well-understood principle of jmispruuence that Senator is likely to be gone two or three weeks. If that be so, or the statute of limitations doe not run against the Government, and anything like it, I think the Senator from West Virginia cannot base until the patent issues thE} title is in the Government, and therefore his interposition upon the ground of courtesy. The Senator from no adverse occupation could oust that title. Vermont has said what I should have said if he ha,d not spoken. It But now this bill seems to provide-of course we cannot at present seems to me, without speaking of the particular form or effect of the discuss its merits, and it may be that I misunderstand its provisions, present bill, as to which I am not advised, that it is manifestly our having just heard them read for the first time- that any occupant duty to dispose of this question in some way or other and nottoallow adver e to the United States shall have the benefit of the efl:ect of the it to stand for two or t.hree weeks unless for some very special reason statute of limitations as between private persons, and we release to such as I think has not been assigned. There is a grea,t injustice, a him any equity that would have been his had our title been a private great hardship, and a great dereliction of duty somewhere inYolved one in every case in which any officer of the Government under a stat­ in the existing state of facts as they are given to me. If this bill is ute, whether in conformity with it or not, has taken a step which not the proper mea ure, let us dispose of it and vote it down and have seemed to indicate that the man hn.d or was about to have a title. some measure that is, and if it shall turn out that there is no action It may be that I misunderstand its provisions. It needs ca,reful incumbent upon us when we consider it, we shall stand a-cquitted of examination. I hardly suppo e that the honorable Senator desires our duty; but I submit that we ought, and ought, now as the motion to go that far, because if he does it would in effect be declaring that is made, to take up this subject and consider it and dispose of it one every adverse occupant who claimed againstthe nited States under way or the orher. a color of title, however defective a,nd unfounded it might be in point 'l'he PRESIDENT pro tempore. The question is on the motion of of law or in point of merit, should ha,ve the statute of limitations the Senator from .Alabama to proceed to the consideration of the bill. operate in his favor against the United States, to the great injury of The motion was agreed to; and the Senate, as in Committee of the the public revenues it may be. But it may be that it does not bear Whole, proceeded to consider the bill (H. R. No. 2550) making appro­ that construction. Of course I cannot discuss it on this motion. I priation for the payment of tea-chers in the public schools in the Dis­ want to say to the honorable Senator that I wish it might go over trict of Columbia, and providing for the levy of a tax to reimbm e until to-morrow that I may have an opportunity to look at it. the same. Mr.. BOGY . The Senator from Vermont misunderstands the pur­ The bill appropriates 97,740.50, out of any moneys in the Treasury port of the bill. not otherwise appropriated, for the payment of teachers in the public Mr. PRATT. I rise to a question of order. schools in the District of Columbia from the. 1st day of September, The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Senator from Indiana will state 1873, to the 1st day of March, 1874; and authorizes a,nd directs tho his voint of order. government of the District of Columbia to levy and collect a tax to Mr. PRATT. The point of order is that when the Senator from an amount equal to the amount appropriated in the act, upon pl~ r­ Mis ouri asked that the bill might be taken up in the morninO' hour sonal property, inclu

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imbursed by a tax on the·personal property within the District. My besides that which has been raised, a~ to whether we should tax: per­ own judgment is that when this matter shall come to be properly sona,! property or not. If yon have taxed an owner of real propert y investigated, it will be no more than just that the General Govern­ for thi purpose and that tax has not been collected, then to a k the ment, which has never contributed anything in lands or money for Government of the United tates to advance this moucy and in t he purpose of common-school education in the Di t rict, should bear same bill order that the tax be levied on personal property, when the some portion of t he burdens of those schools. This bill, howeve1·, other tax has not been collected which was to cover this sum, may be does not provide for the Government of the United States bearing a very bungling way of doing it. I do not know whether the t>tate­ any such portion of the burden, but simply to ad vance a certain ment I have made is correct, but I am told it is; anc.l I submit thn.t amount of money to be reimbmsed to the United States to relieve the while I am in favor of this bill so far as the appropriation by Con­ present necessity. It is a very weak mea~ure indeed; I would go gress is concerned, and while I may be in favor of the sucrgCBtion for a st.ronger measme. . made by the Senator from Ohio that Congress it ·elf should do some­ Mr. SHERMAN. Strike out that portion of the bill which provides thing toward the schools in this District, yet at the amo ·time it for levyin bill does not levy a tax. Mr. CONKLING. I wish to decline the honor which the Senator Mr. STOCKTON. It directs it to be levied. from Vermont is disposed to confer on New York. The gentlem

If that be the whole purpose of the words, it seems to me they are T o exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever over such dis!".rict (not unfortunately strong. I can hardly see how a more specific direction exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular States, and the accept· could be laid upon the government of the District than i fonud in anoo of Congress, become the seat of Government of the United States. the words declaring " that the government of the District of Colum­ The poworof Congress is "t(\ exercise exclushe legislat ion." That bia is hereby authorized. and directed." is a strung as language could ma,ke it. If it was only tha,t, there 1\fr. SHERl\IAN. I will ask my honorable friend has Congress the might, perhaps, be au argnmeut; but it seems to me that tlle last clanse power to direct a legislative body what law to pass? We have ahs?­ of that section of the Constitution interprets the first so that its mcau­ lute jurisdiction over the District. We can pa~s a law to levy thtS ing ca,nnot be misunderstood. The last clause of this section is: tax · but we cannot pass a law to direct the Legislatme to do it. Aml to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the They must be governed by their own iliscretion as to what is .i ust. It Legislature of the State in which the same shaJI be, for the erection of forts, maga­ seems to me that while we, having power on the subject, may pass _a zines, arsenals, dockyards, a-nd other needful buildings. law that will accomplish the intent declared by the House in tblS Now, would it be competent for Concrress in a fort to org:mize a bill, yet we cannot tell the District Legis~atur~ that they s~all levy Legislative Assembly to govern the fort f If it would, then it would a pm'ticular form of ta.x or pass a certam krnd of tax b1ll. Tho be competent for it to organize a Legislative Assembly-to crovern the members of the Legislature may say "we will vote as we feel on that District of Columbia, fori t is "like authority." Exclusive iegislative bill," ancl they might refuse to pass the very bill that you require authority was conferred npon Congress over this District, the power them to pass. Then Congress, as a matter of course, would ill:Lve power l>eing "to exercise exclusive legislative authority." Some question to step in and pass such a law itself. has been raised when legislative authority existed l>y the con titutions :Mr. CONKLING. The Senator from Ohio may be speaking now of several States in the Legislature whether it could be rlelcgateJ. with particnlar r eference to the provisions in the organic act setting to councils, &c.; but I ap11rehend that where tho exclusive power of up tho District government, and that a-ct may ue such in its nature legislation is granted to Congress, Congress itself must exercise that as to warrant all he says; and if it be so I yield to his suggestion. power and cannot delegate it at all. Coucrress ha power to make all needful rules and regulations for tho 1-Ir. MORTON. Your argument then is, that the whole District gov­ Tenitories. In practice, a territorial government is created; tho ernment is unconstitutional? Le~rislature, which is a part of that government, :Q,as tho power to Mr. STEWART . So far as it delegates the power of legislation, I pa~ statutes, subject to the approval or disapproval of Congress have come to that conclusion. I have been investigating that sub­ reserved in the organic act. In such a case as that, it seems to mo, ject and have come to that conclusion; and ucfore that question is the Senator from Ohio would be warranted in the suggestion he examined, I would not call on this Legislature to do any other act; makes. If it be true that the organic act here commits in toto to the certainly I would not call on. the Legislature to devise a system of District Legislature all legislative power, reserving nothing except taxation upon the personal property of the · District for the purpo e the ricrht of Congress to disapprove what that Legislature may do, of raising $100,000 and set all that machinery at work, expensive as it then f think the Senator is right in saying that there would be grave must be. It is perfectly competent for Congress, having appropriated doubt at lea{'!t whether a provision like this would so modify or this 100,000, to provide that it shall be reimbursed by taxation of change the la.w as it stands as to operate itself imperatively and the District. \Ve have the power to do it and can provide the means; necessarily in e:fi'ecting the ·levying and collecting of a tax. I still but in advance of any machinery, to put a law on the statnte-book think, however, that in the presence of this statute, unless yon requiring the District government to inangurate this system, which assume that the District government :first have the right, and second . must be wasteful, cumbersome, and further involve the District in that they woul(l be contumacious in exercising the right to refuse to uncertainty, I think would be most unwise. . do what good faith require c~ they should do-l think these wo~ds 1\Ir. STEVENSON. May I ask the Senator a question . imp01't very much of that which the Senator from New Jersey attnl>­ l'tfr. STEWART . Certainly. utes to them. Mr. STEVENSON. I am informed there are $275,000 nlready as­ Now, Mr. President, I leave this subject with one remark, which I sessed upon real estate of the Dist1ict for this purpose: Why cannot beO' to make esnecially to my friend from Ohio. This is an advance this bo paid out of that fund 'I m~e l>y Cong{ess to the District government. It savors, therefore, 1\Ir. STEW.ART. It will be perfectly competent if this amend­ of a contract in its nature; the District allowing Congress to ad­ ment prevails for Congress to reimburse itself uy its exclusive power vance the money a-ccepts it, or the debtors of the District with tho of legislation, h~ving entire control of the matter hereafter. Whether privity of the District government accept it; and the act which they will ever do it or not is another matter; bnt it is better never to makes the advance contemplates, presupposes, and as far as we have clo it thn.u to make the a-1lpropriation in this way and inaugurate the power requires, that they shall lay this tax. Could anybody say a system that is going to cost three or fom tiDies the appropriation that the District government coultl with good faith hereafter fall to get it into effect. upon th..'l.t independence which the Senator from Ohio speaks of as The PRESIDENT p1·o tempm·e. The question is on the amendment possessed uy a Legislature and say, each man for himself," I vote of the Senator from . on my own conscienoe and my own oath; I refuse to vote any tax Mr. SPENCER. I ask the Senator from Nevada to withdraw his here, I do not care what Congress says about iU" ·would not the amendment to let the Senator from New Jersey offer one. Districtgovernmentthusputitselfverymuch in the attitude of a man 1\Ir. STEWART. Let me hear it. . who accepted from another money, and money in trust and upon au 1\f.r. STOCKTON. I rose a moment ago for the purpose of inter­ agreement, and having received the money should turn around and rupting the Senator from Nevada to make this suggestion : if we go say," Friend, you are trresome; I do not regard this agreement; I have on discussing the relations between the District of Columbia and taken your money, but I decline to do anything which is incumbent Congress we shall keep this bill from passing, which I prestune we all upon me to secure its return¥" · want to see passed in a proper shape. I have an amendment which 1\lr. STEWART. I Inight let this provision pass unchallenged; I several gentlemen around me approve of. I simply want it read; aml do not like to obstruct any benevolent effort that m:1y he made to if any gentleman has a better one I shall feel perfectly willing to go pay these teachers; but this requirement that" the government of the for it. · District of Columbia is hereby authorized and directed to levy and The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The amendment suggested by the collect a ta.x to an amount equal to the amount appropriated in this Senator from New Jersey will be reported. act, upon personal property, including banks and other corporations The CHmF CLERK. It is proposed to strike out in line 11 the words in the said District, and pay the same into the Treasury of the United "levy and" and the words "a tax to," and to strike out in lines 12 and States," would, if carried out, cost more than $100,000, or 200,000 prob­ 13 the words" upon personal property, including banks and other cor­ ably. To provide a system for levying and collecting this tax on porations, in the said District," and insert : personal property in tl).is District would cost a great deal more than Out of the tax now assessed for school purp!)ses on the real estate in said District, the amount appropriated in the bill. It would involve a large sum and which remains as yet uncollected. · to officers, and further comp1icate the affairs of the District of Uolnm­ So as to read : bia. It is certainly very vicious legislation. If personal prope1'ty is .And that the government ef the District of Columbia is hereby authorized and to be assessed and taxes collectetl on it , we must have a system under directed to collect an amount equal to the ammmt appropriated in this a.ct out of which it can be done. Somebody must provide a system, either Con- the tax now Msessetl for school purposes on the real est~~te in said District, and gress or the District government. · which remains M yet uncollected, and pay the same into the Treasury of the United Now, I hope that that clause will be stricken out from the bill. In States. reply to the point of tho Senator from Ohio, that the Legislature of l'tfr. STEWART. I would prefer a suggestion of the Senator from tllis District Inight or might not obey it, I will say that I think , [l'tlr. MORRILL,] who has an amendment. Let him send his the suggestion is not well founded.. I move to strike out tho pro­ amendment to the Chair, and I will modify mine to that extent. vision requiring the District government to levy a tax. l'tfr. MORRILL, of bine. I propose to strike out the clause indi­ The PRESIDENT pTo ternpore. The Senator from Nevada moves cated and insert : to amend the bill by striking out all after "1874" in line nine. And this sum shall be phargedagainstthe District, to be deducted from any sum. l\Ir. STEWART. I doubt whether the Legislature of the District hereafter appropriated to its account. of Columbia has independent jmislliction, as has been suggested. In Mr. STEW.ART. I accept that in lieu of my motion to strike ont. fact I doubt whether it has any jurisdiction at all, or whether Con- . l\Ir. MORRILL, of Maine. There is a large claim here agaiust the oTess has the power to grant it auy jurisdiction, or whether there is IGovernment which undoubtedly we s_hall con~ider, and if we find ~uy such thing as a Legislature in t,he District o£ Columbia with any anything clne we can make this deductwn from It. v itality under the Constitution of the United States. Congress is 1r. THURJ\.I.A..l'i. I am n,pprehensive that the amendmen~ of my clotihed by the Constitution with power- friend from New J or::;e;r willuot meet the case. I am uot q1ut.o snro, 3084 - CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. APRIL 15,

although I could tell by sending for certain books, that there are from the law as I understood the Senator from Indiana to lay it down. unpaid school taxes sufficient to meet this sum. If he were ritiht, Indiana, New York, New Jersey, any other State, Mr. JOfu\TSTON. There are unpaid school taxes to the amount of would haye no power by an act of its Legislature to comp I a board $200,000. of supel'Vlsors to levy a tax. A board of supervisors is the locallerris­ Mr. THURMAl\T. If that is the case, that objection

l\fr. HAMLIN. I should prefer to have this bill amended as my col­ any analogy to this case f Certainly not. I hope the bill will pass league has suggested if there were no surrounding circumstances as it is. which I thought controlled me. This is a measme of relief, and as Mr. STEWART. My point is that beyond tho mere ministerial such I believe it is wise to pass the bill precisely as it came from the duties, so to speak, that are conferred. on boards of supervisors to carry Honse. It is not in the nature of a contract; it incur~ no obligation; out _the laws of Stat-es, or on any board. hero to carry out the laws of it provides for no rights that Congress may not at a subsequent clay C.ongress, any legislative authority conferred upon any legislative change as it shall see fit. To amend the bill·and send. it back to the body in th!s District is a nullity. But the levying of a tax under a House and let it ~o upon the Speaker's table and be reached when no law passed by Congress would be in pursuance of the power of Con­ man can tell, is virtually to deny the great obligations _we are under, gress to cause that tax to be levied . . That is direct and clear. We or the great reasons which induce u~ to vote for the bill. Hence, might direct that the Legislature should do it. We might direct that while I am in favor of my colleague's amendment and would prefer A B do it. It is in pmsuance of the exclusive legislative authority to see the bill in that shape, I shall vote againstthatamendmentand of Con~e s. But in the organic act the legislative powers conferred on vote for the bill as it is for the reasons that I have stated. We can this DIStrict government, which are quite extensive, I think are a correct it hereafter. nullity; and beyond the unties that are ordinarily conferred upon Mr. CARPENTER. Without taking any time upon this bill, I desire boards of supervisors in counties, I think the power!! conferred on this to say that I shall vote for it as it is, precisely upon the ground the L0gislature are all void and their acts outsi

law of this District in reference to snch matters; at least I so under­ A bill (H. ll. No. 2186) granting a-n American regi trytothe Ameri­ stood; and .therefore the amendment seemed to me to apply simply can-built Peruvian steam hip Ra. o, now rebuilt in the United State& to relieve the government from a want of this money temporarily and converted into a sailing-ve el; and until the tax is collected, and the tax will be collected regularly under A bi.ll (H. R. No. 1600) directinrr the Secretary of the Treasury to the law, uppo ing that the government of the District does its duty. issue an American register to the English-built brig Hattie Eaton. The Senator from Ohio does not correct my statement. I thought I HOUSE BILLS REFERRED. wa not mistaken in what the Senator said. ' The bill (H. R. No. 1572) to amend the ~everal ac"':s providing a :Mr. SPENCER. I desire to state for the information of the Senate national cwTency, and to establish free 'banking; and for other pur­ that this bill pas eel in the House after quite a protract-eel and heateu poses, was read twice by its title, and referred to the Committee on debate. The adoption here of the amenn, and Stockton- 20. By the report of the Committee on Elections and Privileges of last N.A.Y>::t-Mes rs. A.lli ·on, Boreman, Buckingham, Carpenter, Conover, Cragin, Dorsey, Ferry of Michigan, Freling_h_uysen, Hamilton of 'l'exas,Hamlin, Hitchcock, session we are confined to the consideration of a mass of testimony Howe, Ingalls, Johnston, Logan, .lllorrill of Vermont. Morton, Patterson, Pease, taken, I submit;· not to establish who was elected governor of Louisi­ Pratt, Ramsey, Scott, Sherman, Spencer, Tipton, and Wesfr-27. ana, but both produced and taken altogether to establish the right .A.BSENT-Messl's. .Alcorn, Anthony, Bouj;well, Brownlow, Cameron, Chandler, • Clayton, Coopel', Eilinumls, FeiTY of Connecticut, Gilbert, (}()rdon, Hager, Jones, of one or the otber of two contestants for a seat in this body. · The Lewis, Jllitcholl, MoiTillofM:ti.ne, R.oberUion, Sargent, Sprague, Stewart, Thurman, instructions of the Senate to that committee were : Wadleigh, Windom, and Wright-25. That the Committ.ee on Privileges and Elections be instructed to inquire andre­ So the amendment was rejected. port to the Senate whether there is any existing State government in Louisiana, &c. The bill was reported to the Senate without amendment, ordered To that same committee were also referred the credentials of John to a third reading, read the third time, and passed. Ray and ·william L. McMillen, each claiming to be elected to the seat made vacant by the re ignation of William Pitt Kellogg as Senator MESSAGE FROM THE HOUSE. from the State of Louisiana. Now, in order to view the estimation in A message from the House of Representatives, by Mr. 1\fcPnERso~, which that very committee considered t-he points submitted to them, its Clerk, announced that the House had passed a bill (H. R. No. 1243) look at the typographical execution of the report. They empha ize to abolish the system of mileage, in which it requested the concur­ one question aud almost totally ignore the other. .A.fter saying that rence of the Senate. they hJ.d devoted weeks to the investiga-tion of the subject referred ENROLLED BILLS SIGNED. to them, they say : The message also announced that the Speaker of the House bad The Senate must, therefore. £letermine whether either McMillen or Ua.y, and if · signed the following enrolled bills ; and they were thereupon signed either, which, is entitled to said seat. by the President pro tempo·re: No one can doubtinreadingthetestimonytbattheobjectcontcnded A bill (H. R. No. 12-20) for the relief of William Rood, late private for by Ray and Mcl\lille~ respectively was a sea.t in this body, aud of the Thirty-sixth Regiment of Wisconsin Volunteers; hepce each one of them songbt only to est.ablish the 1egality of the A bill (S. No. 617) to fix the amount of United States notes and the organization of the Legislature wllence be derived his credentials. circulation of national banks, and for other purposes; Could either of them have established that their credentials were in A bill (H. R. No. 1003) to authorize and direct the Secretary of le~al form, they would have been admitted into -this body upon a War to change the name of John Rziha, captain in the Fourth Regi­ p1·wLa facie case; and tllerefore the whole gravamen of their labors ment of Infantry of the Army of the United States, on the register, was directeu to establi~hing that fact. The term was about to expire; roTh , and records of the Army, to John Laube de Laubenfels; there were but a few short weeks of it. still enduring; and if either A bill (H. R. No. 1930) to secure to the Domestic and Foreign ~fis ­ one of them could llave made ont a pri;na facie case, he would have sionary Society of the Protestant Episcopal Church in the United been admitted to the Senate, and the Senate never would have gone States the land in the White Earth Indian reservation ; into the merits of tJ1e ca e at all. A bill (H. R. No. 1942) authorizing the Secretary of the Navy to In examining into this contest the committe,e compamt-ively lost employ a retirecl officer at sea, and, if physically and professionally sight of the other and more import,an t branch of tho subject, or at qualified to perform his duties, the P1·esident is au~borized to restore least entered into it in a mauner- o imperfect as in no degree to wa-r­ him to the active list; . rant Congress in assuming to exerci~;e, for t;he 1lrst time since -~ he 1874. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. 3087 reconstruction of the South, the power to order an election for State believe Mr. McEnery was elected. :Now, we know perfectly well officers under FederaJ legislation and control. that there were two men voted for on that day. The Senator from McMillen on one side and Ray on the other each conducted llis Wisconsin says : ca -c, not the ca e of Loui iana. Louisiana's case has never been I do not think that Mr. McEnery was in fact elected. heard here, and until it ts heard I shall rest with perfect confidence upon the good sen e of this body, knowing that it will not overturn Now, can there be an election without a resultf If he does not a government until it knows that it was e tablished in defiance of think that in fact 1\lr. McEnery was elected on that day, he must the wish and the intention of the people of the State. think in fact the other man was. That is the question for Congress The Senator from Wisconsin, [1\lr. CARPENTER,] in his last appeal to determine, it seems to me, before it is called upon to determine to the Senate on the Louisiana question, has asserted that both sides whether it has the right constitutionally to interfere. agree upon sundry propositions connected therewith. In furtherance In a case somewhat analogous, the New Jersey case of 1840, known of this assertion, however, he assnmesone position as mutually agreed most generally as the Broau Seal case, and to which I shall have oc­ upon that is by no means a cnted to by myself, and I do not believe casion to refer as I proceed, Congress took a direct and thorough that he will find another believer of his assertion in this body. method of ascertaining the facts connected therewith, as my friend He says in his speechdeliveredon t4e 4th of 1\farchlast, anu printed from California [1\fr .. liAGER] very well knows, for he was counsel in in the RECORD of March 10: the case. It may with some truth be contended that neither the acts I ask the attention of the Senate to the fact that at this election electors of Pres­ of a returning board nor the order of a Federal judge can impose a iuen t and Vice-President ought to have been elected, because I claim that the decis­ government upon the people of a State, and that a government estab­ ion of both Hou.c;es of Congrass r~jecting the vote of the eledors of that State, lished by either of such means is no more republican in form than and denying Louisiana any voice whatever in the election of President and Vice­ President, is an adjudication by Congress that no r~sult was a~comt.>lished by the were it established by force of arms, however it might subsequently pretended election of November 4, 1872- If anything was accomplished at that rigiUly comply with the written form of a republican constitution. election, then presidential electors, ag_overnor, and other State officers, and a L e~ is­ It is the voice of the people aJone that constitutes a government la.tnre wero elected_ But if no presiaential electors were elected, then no election of governor and other State officers and members of the Legislature wa.s effectecl. under our institutions. That "governments derive their just powers Congress luvi!!g rlecided that the election was void as to presidential electors, it from the consent of the governed" is an axiom too familiar to be for­ follows that the election of State officers and members of the Legislature held at gotten, and I contend that Congress has not in its posses ion any tho same time, and subject to the same objections, mJ18t be void also. evidence worthy of regard that 1\lr. Kellogg is governor in viola­ The Senator broadly and unwarrantably assumes a fact that the tion of the consent of the governed; and until it is so informed, it record totally contrn.dicts him in. I cannot recall at the present mo­ can do no greater wrong, CUJl in no manner more widely depart from ment, but I think it was on the 12th of February, 1873, that the two its obligation as one of the co-ordinate branches of the Government Houses met to act upon the votes cast by the different States. On the of the United States to guara~ttee to Louisiana a republican form of lOth of February the Committee on Privileges and Elections of this government, than unjustifiably to set aside the present government body,. who had been directed to inquire aJld report as to the presiden­ in that State and impose upon her people the nece sity of making tial election in Louisiana, A.l·, and other States, reporteu in another choice through the bill of the Senator from Wisconsin. regard to Louisiana as follows : William P. Kellogg is to-day governor of the State of Louisiana. We find that the official returns of the election of electors from the various He is recognized as such by your Chief Executive, by yom co-ordinate parishes of Louisiana have never been counted by anybody having authority to branch of Congress who have admitted to eats upon their floor mem­ count them. bers properly certified by him to have been elected. He is recognized They never said that that election was void; nor did Congress as such also by the supreme comt of that State, and Congress ought come to any snch conclusion, because although Congress determined to be satisfied, before it undertakes to overthro.w him as the governor that question, respectively each Horu;e for itself, the record shows of one of the sovereign States of the Union, that he holds the office con­ what was the conclusion iu each Honse as to the result of that elec­ trary to the desires, contrary to the expres ed wish and intention of tion. The Senate resolved as follows : the people governed. They should know that, and they should know what the people of Louisiana willed in 1872 and what their wish is That all the objections having been considered, no electoral vot~ purporting to be that of the St.·tte of Louisiana. be counted. . to-day before they undertake to interfere with him. There is not a particle of evidence of that kind here. If he holds the office by the And the House resolved: wish and according to the intention of the people governed, then his That in the judgment of the Honse, none of the retnrns reported by the tellers government is republican in form nuder the constitution of that as electoral votes of the State of Louisiana should be counted: State, and as all the eviuence goes to show that he does so hold it, The only conclusion that ConO'ress has come to in regard to the vote those who would oust him from his position are compelled to show of Louisiana is the conclusion that I want to hold you to to-day, that proof to the contrary. you do not know how the election has gone in .Louisiana, and until Now let me call the attention of the Senatre for a few moments to yon do know you have no right to interfere with it. the political antecedents of that State. Then al o let me ask your We are told that the Kellogg government is a gross usurpation, and attention to the conclusion that the Senator from Wiscon in himself that dire consequences are to result to the dominant party in Congre s admits, that the State on Lhe day of that election was largely repub­ and in the country, and that we as Senators will be grossly derelict lican· and cast a majority of republican votes. In April, 186~, the of our duty unless -we apply a remedy which it is alleged exists under republican vote of the State of Louisia,na was 64,901, and the demo­ the instruction of the Constitution that the United States shall guar­ cratic vote was 3 ,000, giving a republican majority of twenty-six antee to every Stat.e in this Union a republican form of government. thousand and some hundreds. Under the necessity, as it seems, of the This proposition has so far mainly been urged upon us by the Senator democratic party in the year 18G8 to carry that State at all hazards, from Wi cousin. In the bill which he has introduced to rest.ore the they instigatecl such scenes of violence throughout the State that on rights of the State of Louisiana he has assumed an existing state of the day.of the election for GJ'ant and Seymour in 1868 the colored facts in regard to aft'::!irs there from which I totally dissent, and people refrained from going to the polls. In the parish of Orleans ''' hich assumption I contend and shall endeavor to show to the Senate alone, which only five months before polled 14,000 republican votes, is not at aJl warranted by the information in its possession. we had to content ourselves with 240-two hundred and forty white In the first place, let me ask what is our right of interference 7 men who had courage enough to go up and cast their vote . And so That right must be based upon two general grounds; first, whether throughout the State; parishes that had cast from 500 to 1,000 votes it is conferred upon us by the Constitution upon any given state of for the republican candidate only a few short months before were facts; anu second, whether that state of facts exists. found without a vote, and in some instances casting one, or two, or I shall leave the argument on t.he firRt of t.hese propositions to the three votes. Is it any wonder under such circumstances that a dem­ more experienced members of this .body, whose views will interest, ocratic majority of forty-odd thousand should be rolled up and that instruct, and enlighten the Senate to a degree that I should be entirely the republican vote had faJlen off some 50 per cent. 'f The democratic without expectation of equaling, and I shall confine myself altogether vote had increased 100 per cent. and the republican vote had fallen to the proposition that the Senate has not been informed, nor attempted off 50 per cent., so that that election was a farce. to inform itself, as to whether a state of facts exists growing out of Then when we come to the election of 1870, when peace and tran­ the election of 1872 in Louisiana that either requires or even justifies quillity prevailed once more in the State and there was not that in­ Comrress in interfering. I assert antl maintain that the Senate does tense political excitement, we find that the republican State candi­ not ~ow that William P. Kellogg was not elected governor at that date received 65,500 votes and the democratic vote relapsed to its time; that the information laid before the Committee oh Privileges former number of 41,000, giving a republican majority on that occa­ and Elections of the Forty-second Congress related entirely to what sion of 24,000 again. Now, I as ert, and I can prove both by the was done by certain returning boards, to what occurred through an testimony taken before the committee and by the conclusion ad­ order issued by a judge of a Federal court, and that the examination mitted by the Senator from Wisconsin himself, t.hat the colored. held by that committee scarcely touched upon what, if we are to people of Louisiana who were largely in the majority voted almost exercise our right of interference, is the true subject of inquiry: How en 1nasse in 1872 for the republican candidate. I do not think any clid tl!e people of Louisiana 1:ote on the 4th of November, 1872; for which Senator here will refute my as ertion that as a class the colored men per on of the two then seeking their suffrao-es for the office of gov­ of the South are a unit a republicans. In some comments of Senator ernor on that day did they actually vote T With the exception of Trumbull, formerly a Senator from Illinois, on the report of the ma­ .myself, and I do not know that I ought even to except myself, nobody jority, he commented upon the division of t.he races in Louisiana and ha given greater attention to this matter than the Senator from quoted the census to show that there were a hundred and ouu more Wisconsin. He, after spending .these weeks elaboratin~ his report white males in Louisiana than there were bla

ber. The relative division is eigbty- even thou and n.nd odd whites, This is the report : anu BG,!H3 black , males twenty-one yea.rs old and upwn.rd; but the Roferrin.~ to the statement that we could not succeed without tho co-opemHon of Senator did not quote far enough. He should have examined the "some power v.-ithout regard to tho character of tllatpower," tbe ~:-~vcaker poke in column of citizenship, a.nd he would have discovered that the black dep:·'ca.Ung terms of tho proposition. Ho thou~ht that a good tick t of hon ·st men woulll succeed. The reform movement had utterly confused tbl3 politics of tho citizens were 15,000 majority over the whites. State aml pr·ovcntecl tho coalition with :t certain indhidual. You might call it ickly lllr. CARPENTER. Will you give me the page sentimentality, l:lo said, but he utterly r ejected the proposition of a coalition with fr. WEST. Page 619. We have an aggregate of 173,979 males, Warmoth. fApplauso.J It is not sickly sentimentality to uphold one's principles. bla.ck and white, but wo only have an aggre:;;ato of 15;),0::n citizens, Houonty is tho best policy. * * * * * * * It was true, he addetl, that those who would form this coalition thou,!!ht that suc- black and white, andl ask you where are yon to lookforyourunnatmal­ cess could only be obtained by a. fraudulent registration. * * " izcd people T Not among the blacks; we all know how they bectLme llo again warned tho people from coalescing with Warmoth, who was a paralytic naturalized. Now turn to page 6'29 of the first part of the con us and anti a beggar before the people. ~ · on will find the same result tlerived there in a classification particu­ And yet in two months thereafter this gentleman spoke at the same larly of the State, and yon will find also that in one ingle parisll, tho stand with Governor Warmoth in support of the fnsion ticket, ancl parish of Ol'leans, there are 9,000 nnnatnralizec.l foreigners. clasped bantls across the infamous, not the bloody, cham. What Now, I will a

It is very plain what the fusion candidate for governor thought 1\lr. MORTON. I have Kellogg's dispatch the morning of the last were to be the benefits to his prospects by the compact that he ad­ clay of the Legishture announcing the pa-ssage of the other act. mitted bound him and ~s followers. ·what the party of the second Mr. WEST. Mr. President, I ask the Senate's pardon for my appa­ part to this compact, Governor Warmoth, thought of it, is shown by rent tediousness; bnt I am telling the true story of Louisiana; I am his ~peech on the same occasion. He says : telling the story that we can take before our constituencies in the A great deal has been said of me because of my course in relation to certain legis­ coming fall campaign and lay the true facts be~ore them and let them lation in this State. It is known to all of you th21t I recommenued in no uncertain judge between right and wrong in my State. Here is the confidential language to the Legislature the repeal of a certain law. The Legislature did after circular of the State registrar of voters under date of October 24, a fashion modify these laws. Those bills have passed the Legislature, and are 18i2, to the supervisors of registration, appointed not by the governor before me for signature. Now I propose to tell th~ people of this city, and through the press represented here the people of the State, the simple, plain rea-son that I of the State, but throughout the State by the democratic State cen­ do not sign these laws. In the first place they make no material modification of the tral committee with the proxies of the governor in blank in their old election and registration laws. In the second place, it was intended, when the hands; not a single republican was allowed to witness that election repeal of these laws was forced through the Legislature, that inst6ad of them Gen­ held that day in Louisiana behind the ballot-box;· and what were the eral Grant should use his election law upon the people of this State; and then, be­ sides that, the great mass of the peo~le who have so long demanded l:ihe modification instructions to these convenient tools'/ or repeal of these laws have changed their minds. STATE OF LOUISIANA, OFFICE OF STATR REGISTER Oi' VOTERS, The great ma.ss of the people who ha{]. denounced these laws as out­ New Orleans, October 24, 1872 Srn: In addition to the instructions contained in Circular No.8, from this offi~e rageous changed their minds and were willing to take all the false you are instructed- ' advantages under which they could be used for their benefit. First. In counting th.e ballots after election, connt first the votes cast for presiden­ Now let me digress here a moment with reference to our election tial electors and members of Congress, keeping separate tally-lists on the Form law. The Senator from Wisconsin the other day charged that Gover­ No.1, provided for that purpose, a.nd maki11.g up and completing the statement of votes for each poll, upon Form No.1. Then close the box, reseal it, and pro~ed in nor \Varmoth had as a matter of decency repealed that election law. a similar manner, nntil all the national votes have been counted. He did it under a necessity to perfect his own schemes. The Legis­ lature elected at the same time with Governor Kellogg re-enacted one The republican party in the counting of the national votes was provision of it and only for a particular purpose. There were anum­ allowed to be represented under the law of Congress by the super­ ber of vacancies in the Legislature, and the new election law which visors. appointed by_the district or circuit judge, but as soon as the was approved by Governor Warmoth November 20, 1872, provided cotmtmg of the national votes was done with they excluded those that those members should be returned to the· Legislature through men and practiced their frauds in secret : the instrumentality of police juries; and inasmuch as no police juries Then proceed with the counting of, the State and parish votes, bearing in mind the fact that the United States supervisors of election and deputy marshals have had been elected or were recognized in the various parishes through­ no right whatever to scrutinize, inspect, or be present at the counting of the State out the State, the Legislature re-enacted that clause and enabled the and parish votes. governo~ for that particular time and occasion to appoint those police Then on November 2, 1872, the same State regis~ar of voters, in juries so that the machinery of election might be perfected to return reply to the request of the chairman of the republican central com­ members of the Legislature. He re-enacted so much of that iniquity mittee that republican judges or commissioners should be allowed at as answered the purpose for the moment of returning a few men for the polls in the State of Louisiana, flatly denied the republican party the Legislature when we had already a majority there, and as soon a single representative. as we got a full Legislature we repealed the law, and all the iniquity STATE OF LOUISIANA, under which the people of Louisiana have complained that they have OFFICE OF STATE REGISTRA'riON OF VOTERS, labored for years is now obsolete, and the next election in that State New Orleans, N01Jember 2, 1872. can with proper protection be held in peace and give a fair result. Srn: In reply to your communication of date, I mnst respectfully decline com­ Hr. HAMILTON, of Maryland. I wish to ask the Senator a ques­ pliance with your retsiest to appoiJ;J.t ono commissioner of election at each polling tion, if he will allow me to do so. Has not that Legislature passed a f~~· from the repub ·can party, at the general election to be held November 4, law repealing the one alluded to, and is it not now in possession of the In regard to your second request, I have the honor to inform you that the list of governor or to be held by him until after this Congress shall have polling places in this parish will be published in the officialjournal and other papers to-morrow, 3d instant. adjourned f Very respectfully, Mr. WEST. The Legislature has passed a law repealing that act B. P. BLANCHARD, and the govetnor has signed it. . State Register of Voters ana Supervisor of Registration, Parish of Orleans. 1\fr. HAMILTON, of Maryland. Have they not passed another re­ Ron. S. B. PACKARD, pealing that act and reviving and confirming the first act t President State Republican Committee. Mr. WEST. No, sir; not that I know of. At all events we know Now, sir, will any Senator on this floor rise in his place and say nothing about the laws of Louisiana until they are promulgated. that he countenances such proceedings as that f Will he rise in his After having urged in two successive annual messages to the Legi8- place here and say that he believes a fair election could be held lature the repeal of these very election laws, after succeedin~ in under such circumstances, or that the returns show anything like the getting such repeal effected by the Legislature up to the point ot his choice of the people when that choice had to be submitted to such approval of the law, that act was put ·in his pocket and Warmoth an ordeal as that¥ Where is the Senator who will say that he con­ audaciously avowed that the old law was good enough for his pur­ siders that justice wa,s done then to the people of Louisiana f pose just then. Is it not plain enough tllat it was his intention to Sir, it was with such preliminaries for a fair election a-s I have defraud the voter8 of the State in the manner referred to in the tes- stated here, that severe exclusion which the fusion party desired to timony which the Clerk ha,s read f ~ have of republican witnesses at the polls, that the sun of Auster­ Follow up the proceedings in furtherance of this design, follow litz, as my friend from [Mr. McCREERY] said, illumined them step by ste~ as illustrated in the testimony and by the docu­ the glorious field on that morning the fusion party rallied around ments transmitted to us by the President in his message of January the banner of equal rights-equal rights, when a white man had a 13, 1873. Among other eviuence we find the confidential circular of chance to vote and a black man could not! To follow out my friend's the State registrar of voters. illustration the chief was surrounded by his marshals. He only had Mr. CARPENTER. Will my friend allow me to say a word on the to give them the instructions to carry out his ideas, and the repub­ question of the repeal o£ that election law f I understand that the lican party was routed as the Austrians were on that memorable day. law which was passed by Kellogg's legislature about a year ago, and True, he had no Murat; there was no Lannes, or Bertrand, or Berna­ which has been published, was repealed ·three or four days ago or dotte ; but there were convenient tools at hand who stood ready to within a very few days, about the time this bill was introduced here, carry out his instructions. ''Go to those parishes and cheat the ne­ and repealed because the friends of Kellogg's government thought it groes, or let me never see your face again." That was his order; that would be a bad· point to show in Congress. I am informed and have was the glorious sun of Austerlitz that illumined the field-a field seen a telegram from New Orleans saying that although Kellogg did which I as a Louisianian blush to say was illumined in that way. have that law repealed so as to have it have its effect herein the Senate, The curious in the valorous exploits of those creatures in the political on the last day of the session they passed another law in substance combat can gratify their desire for information by referring to their reinstating it, which Kellogg is keeping in his pocket until after the deeds recorded in this testimony. The achievements of one of them adjournment of Congress, antl then is to approve and take the power were so unparalleled and ext1·aorclinary that I can scarcely avoid back. If the Senator has any knowledge on that subject, I should giving him the notoriety of personal mention. Mr. Cahoon, who went like to know whether that is so or not. to Madison PariBh as supervisor of registration and election, signalllled Mr. WEST. I am not so familiat: with the laws that governors of his devotion to his mission by reporting a registration of 1,718 white Louisiana carry in their pockets, it seems, as t.he Senator from 'Vis­ voters in that parish, whereas the census of 1870 gives only 936 total cousin. He gave us the evidence of that a year or two ago as to how white population. But his courage seems to have failed him, and atlroitly these things could be manipulated. I do not know the fact. after taking flirrht to New Orleans, where he secured all the facilities :Mr. CONKLING. Did you ever hear of it f for making up hls returns to order, he only returned 838 democratic Mr. ·wEST. No, I never heard of it. We know nothing about the voters-something less than 50 _per cent. of his registration, but liberal l:.tws of Louisiana until they are promulgated; and I uo not think enough, however, in comparison with the census and the democratic the Senator need be apprehensive-- vote of 1870, which latter only reached 37. .A.s a sample of how the~e .Mr. MORTON. I never heard of that before. returns were made up by that individual the Senator from New Jen~ey Mr. CARPENTER. I saw a dispatch yesterday to that effect, and yesteday had quotations made from the testimony going to ~how tb,at from the sonrcc it came I believe it to be trnc, though I have no per­ a justice .of t~e peace went. to the roo~ where this m~n "\Y~S. ~~Jq.qg 11 n sonal1.."nowledge. these returns and swore htm to them lll blank~ · · 194 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. APRIL 15,

Now let us have a little more summing up of the legerdemain­ Some of the adventmes of these retmns were ludicrous enongh. for there IS no other name for it-that was practiced there upon ballot­ It having become nece ary to remove them from the governor's office boxes. In t~ election of 1 70 the democrats carried sixteen pn.rishe in to prevent them from falling int.o the hands of the officers of the law. the State of Loui ian a by an aggregate majority of seventy-three hun­ trusty henchmen were called into service, and during three nights tlred and odd. These same sixteen parishes were reported by the fn ion and days the authentic ( n returns of the famous election in Loui i­ board asgivinganaggregatedemocraticmajorityof only7,101 in 1A72. ana were transferred by them to a place of hiding. In their pockets, Upon their own showing the democratic loss on their own grounu was in their pantaloons le~s, in their boots, their hats, the reliable evi­ 2{i;l votes. In the parishes exclusively democratic on this occasion dences of the expres ell will of the people WE'Ire sac1·edly transported. the uemocratic vote fell back 232 votes in a majority of 7,000. In the As one of the party tells me, "We went into the governor's office thin remaining thirty-six parishes of the State, which were all carried by and came out fat!'' They went iu skeletons and came out Falstafls. the republicans in 1870 by a majority of 32,616, the fusion boaru in Their clothes wer.e wadded with these authentic returns of the elec­ 1872 returned an aggregate democratic majority of 1,556. tion in Louisiana. And then what did they do with them f They At an election which showed large republican gains in every other took them for safe-keeping to the quarters or the residence of a prom­ State of thr. "Union, an astonishing gaiu of 34,171 in the opposite direc­ inent candi

maintain itseU until you could know what wa.s the wish of the people of the relations of labor and capital also for a time has been preju­ of Louisiana; and I ask you to do the same for us. dicial, and will continue to work injury until better regulated. _ :Mr. President, the conclusions to which my mind· is drawn by a But in looking at the immediate condition of the finances of Louisi­ consideration of the fa.cts before the Senate are as follows : ana, in considering t he extent of the debt of the State, it is well to The bill of the Senator from Wisconsin is predicated upon the inquir~ whether it is due to the republican party, and whether jts assumption that there is no valid executive in Louisiana, and her laws exclusiOn from power would bring about a change for the better. do not permit one to be chosen unti11876; that there is no valid There has been a good deal of confusion as to the debt of the State Lerrislature, but an invalid one 1ww enactin~ laws. of Louisiana. I present here tho net debt of tho State, without any But the Legislature is no longer enactmg laws, and the laws of reference to contingencies, many of them having become obsolete by Louisiana will compel the election of a new one quite as soon as we the lapse of the legislation t.hat ma~e them, and I shall call the at­ could provide one. tention of the Senate and of the country to the fa-ct that when the We have no shadow of excm;e, therefore, for interfering with mm·e, State of Louisiana was relieved from military control and remitted thttJn the executive. to the control of the Legislature called into being under the policy We have no shadow of excuse for ordering a new election for the of Andrew Johnson, the debt of that State was 5,018,635.14. executive, merely because the wrong man is holding. Under Mr. Johnson's policy we had a democratic Legislature. It If we have power to dispossess the wrong man, we have power to commenced its existence on the 1st of J.anuary, 1866, and it held ono possess the right one. . session in that year, arid held another in 1867, so that the total exist­ Before we can order a new election, we must find, not merely that ence of the Andrew Johnson policy in the government of Louisiana Kellorrg was twt elected, but that no one was elected in 1872. was of eighteen months' duration, for it was suspended by the act of We0 know that an election was held on the day appointed by la.w. reconstruction of July 19, 1867. In eighteen months the democratic We know that but two candidates were voted for. Weare morally party of Louisiana, it being exclusively democratic, added $9,000,000 certain that one or the other had the greatest number of votes. in round numbers to our debt, or, to give the exact figures, $8,997,300. If it be conceded that the State has no Legislature, we must pre­ .A. republican administration extending from April, 1868, to the present sume they will have one in November next. time has increased the debt of Louisiana $10,077,471.86. The "Andrew And we morally know that Kellogg or McEnery tvas elected, and if Johnson policy'' Legislature increased our debt, $8,997,300, as I said. we have any duty in the premises, it is the duty of finding which was The first republican Legislature appropriated 8,911,488, but did not elected. increase the debt that much. The second republican Legislature ap­ That question has not been tried as yet. The Committee on Privi­ propriated $9,607,282, and the la.st republican Legislature during its leges and Electioll.S tried the question whether McMillen or Ray was existence, this Legislature that you are told is squandering the sub­ Senator. Another question was referred to the committee, but it" was stance of the people of Louisiana, got along with one-half of the not investi~ated. Such testimony was taken as McMillen offered amount required by either of its predecessors, namely, $4,875,269, dur­ upon one siae, and Ray upon the other. ing the two years of its existence; Senators must bear in mind that The bill now sought to be referred to the committee is neither war­ the expenditures of the State of Louisiana are something enormous, ranted by the facts, nor applicable to the political condition of affairs attributable to the topographical formation of the State, and tho in Louisiana. uecessity of protection against overflows that are now, as I speak, The opponents of the present administration in Louisiana, led here inflicted on those people, rendering necessary an expenditure for by the Senator from Wisconsin, are not insisting upon what they levees alone annually almost of as much money as would run an should claim as their rights, if they ha,ve any rights at all. Balked ordinary Commonwealth in this vicinity. in the fraudulent scheme whereby they sought to capture the con­ The administration there has been criticised for what is called a trol of a State, they implore Congress now to afford them another repudiation of the debt. With a debt of $24,000,000 in that State, opportunity. quite half of which is due to the democratic party, a great portion Sir, if they believe that they are in the majority in Louisiana they of it due also to the unfortunately dilapidated condition in which kno-;v- they will have an opportunity ere long to prove it. If they our levees were left at the conclusion of hostilities in that direction, believ~ that McEnery was elected i.hey should demand, and be satis­ and t-o the necessity that devolved on us to repair them-with such fied with nothing less th..'ID that he should be possessed of the execu­ a debt oppressing us what was to be done' We had the alternative tive chair. to pay, to repudiate, or to compromise. The property-holders of that I am convinced that Mr. Kellogg was elected, and my efforts shall State, who are in the main the democratic party, took counsel to­ be continued to maintain him where he is. Did I think otherwise I gether. Some of them recommended repudiation; some of them would not hesitate a moment to bring forward measures looking to recommended the scaling of the debt; and they finally, through the t.he installation of the rightful governor; but a new election ordered instigation and by the suggestion of the chamber of commerce, sub­ by Congress is no remedy for the evils which are complained of by mitted a bill to be acted upon by the Legislature scaling the debt those who favor it. down to sixty cents, so that, although this somewhat questionable Now, Mr. President, I will pass from the politics of Louisiana and expedient has been entered into and adopted by a republican Legis­ refer somewhat to her material and social interests. It has been the lature, it was done at the request of and in the interest of the demo­ common charge rung throu(J'hout this country that the republicans crats, and they must not take exception to it. of the South were r esponsible for the decay and the detriment and Mr. CONKLING. How is it with people out of the State, credit­ the disaster that prevail through many of those States. True, we are ors; are they to take exception. to it' to a certain extent Pesponsible. Let us understand what that extent Mr. WEST. No; they had better take "sixty cents, because if the is, and let us be judged by the facts that each Senator representing a democrats get into power they will not get a cent. [Laughter.] State can present for consideration here. How that action was viewed by the chamber of commerce, a demo­ The oppressed condition of the industrial and agricultural interests cratic institution, I will show. of Louisiana and the prostration of the commercial business of New Mr. Sandidge offered a resolution of thanks to the Legislature; commending them Orleans are referred to

Louisville, Memphis, and Cincinnati, and whole steamboat-loads Mr. 'VEST. The law passed at the last session, and which has been woulcl come down with produce that is now transmitted by railroad, promul~ated within a few days. l)y the trn.nscontinental lines of communication; so that in the mere Mr. STEVENSON. Do I understand Governor Kellogg to deny as matter of forwarding in New Orleans the great supplies to the West a matter of fact that such a repealing act has been passed T I have and the great products of the 'Vest sent back to us we had a large received from a very respectable gentleman in Louisiana a dispatch and industrious community engaged. telling me that Governor Kellogg holds in his pocket a bill repe:ilincr Furthermore, we had a market there for western merchants. They the election la.w referred to by the Senator from Louisiana. Now, l used to resort there. We had our palatial dry-croods stores, our ex­ desire to ask the Sembtor from Loui iana whether the Legislature of tensive hardware stores, our extensive boot and shoe trad~, now gone Loui iana did not repeal the bill to which be referred f to a great extent. Bnt why gone? From political causes Y Not alto­ .Mr. WEST. I reply to the Senator from Kentucky-- gether. .At the outbreak of the war, or shortly before it, the railroacl Mr. STEYENSQN. I am not asking about Kellogg; I want to lines were just about perfecting a communication across the continent,· know the bet whether the Le$islature have not passed an act re­ and that means of communication, the direct resort of merchan-,:s to pealing tbat act to which the t;enator from Louisiana refened. New York :1nd the large cities of the East, competed materially .Mr. WEST. .And I reply to the Senator that if such is the ca-se it ilrst with onr lines of transportation, and next with our resources is -a matter of which I have no knowledge whatever, and I have the of supply. New Orleans was alreatly beginning to feel that the ;Mis­ governor's telegram here, which I will put in my speech, saying that sissippi had more mouths than one, and that she did not sit the queen it is not so.- · of empire at the month of the great river. So it was. The war came Mr. HAMILTON, of Maryland. Please read the telegram again. on, closino· up the mouth of the , closing up the dry­ Mr. WEST. I will send it to the ·desk to be read. goods trade, the grocery trade, the boot and shoe trade, and the hard­ The Chief Clerk read as follows: ware trade, paralyzing the South and electrifying the North; and I am informed thllt some of the "last-dit.chers" have telegraphed Senator CAR­ when business was re umed there, at the close of the war, we found PENTER and ot.hers that I have a bill before me, intending to si!m and promul"ate that our customers had all gone North. Our lines of communication hereafter, which repeals the new election law. This is false. We can have a '"fair election under the present law. This is all republicans ask, and it is what the ds­ were broken up. .And we did more than that, :Mr. President; we dis­ mocracy hate. couraged northern capital from coming among us by refusing to con­ . W. P. KELLOGG. sort socially with any man who differed politically with the majority Mx. HAMILTON, of Maryland. If I understand that telegraphic of the white people there. These are some of the causes to which the dispatch, he says he has no such bill before him. But has such a bill decay of business in New Orleans is attributable. I feel them and I been passed f He may not have it before him; and yet it may have know them. been passed. · I saw that city years ago when it was a mart busy with all the ener­ Mr. MORTON. I think that is a pretty square denial. The state­ gies of commerce, now to a degree paralyzed and its-property lying ment was made here to-day that on the last day of the f\ession of . vacant and seekin~. for tenants through the bigotry, in a great meas­ the Legislature a bill had been passed which he had put into his m e, and the prejuaices of her people. pocket and had not signed, intending to hold it until after the con­ Again, the debt of the city we are taxed with as a great abuse; troversy was over. I never hea.rd f that until to-day, and I should that is radical or republican dereliction again. Sir, we never had a be greatly a-stonished if it waa true, and should regret it. I think republica.u a.dministration in that city that did not diminish the debt, that telegram is intended to meet that statement. He says that he and when we have had democratic adminjstrations there the people holds no such bill. have almost besought the republicans to take the government out of Mr: HAMILTON, of :Maryland. The statement may have been their hanir; the people there all that Governor K ellogg bas to do is to take the last act fro.m his pocket at any time before Nevember 5, 1874, anu sigu it, anu all the power will be again where It are your wards. You have made them so by your enactments; and it was under tho obnoxious act which was repealed. is due to them that you shoulcl protect them. But if the men who oppose the government of Mr. Kellogg will meet us on the result of a This letter is from F. C. Zacharie, who signs his name to it and fair election, we will meet them on tllat issue, but some of us-and pledges himself to the truth of the statement. I know nothing more they know it-are debarred fTOm taking arms in our hands. about it. Now, Mr. President, does the bill of the Senator from W!sconsin Mr. WEST. The only authority that we have that such is· the case· meet this ca e at all Is there any ground for it' Can Congress comes fTOm the other side of the Chamber. Our side do not agree interfere ? .And would not overy man who should give his dispassion­ with it. But suppose it is so ; I say that that side is eatoppecl from ate judgment and reflection to this case be satisfied, as I am, that Mr. complaining against the-election laws of Louisiana because they have Kellogg is the le.~itimate choic<> of the people, and should be l~f-t used them to their advantage. there to exercise tne powers confened by the people T Mr. HAMILTON, of Maryland. That is coming to the point-­ I am obliged to the Senate for their attention. Mr. 'VEST. I know nothing about the fact, but the complaint The bill was reported to the Senate without amendment. against it does not come with very good grace from the partieB th~•t Mr. HAMILTON, of 1\Iaryland. 1\lr. President-- adopted the law. Mr. WEST. Will the Senator allow me to read a telegram on a Mr. HAMILTON, of Maryland. That is another matter. I have matter tha.t was controverted here in the course of the remarks whioh nothing to do with Mr. Warmoth. He is not my man, I want the I made f It is from ~vernor Kellogg, governor of Louisiana : honorable Senator to understand. The relations of Governor War­ moth a few years ago were probablyentirelydifferentfrom what they I am informed that some parties have tele~phed Senator CARPENTER li.Ild others that I have a bill before me, inteniling to sign and promulgate the same hereafter, are now. However, I have nothing to do with that, and I do not whlch repeals the new election law. ThiB is false. W e can have a fair election want anything to do with it. Kellogg says simply, as I understand under the present law. This is all republica.t;~s ask, and it is what the democracy his dispatch, tbere is no 8nch act before him. hate. Mr. BAYARD. It is a clear evasion. Mr. HAMILTON, of Maryland. Under what present law, I wonld 1111·. STEVENSON. Does the Senator from Louisiana say that they ask the Senator from V:mi. iana-the one passed when t have passed uo such law 7 1874. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. 3093

Mr. BAYARD. If we can gather any meaning from the remarks of priation; which was referred to the Committee on Appropriations, the Senator from Louisiana, it is an admission that those two acts and ordered to be printed. have been passed, one act professing to repeal the old election law ESTATE OF MAJOR WILLIAM B. SCOTT. and one repealing the repealing act; so that they can be prod~ced The SPEAKER also, by unanimous consent, laid before the House from the pocket ~f this so-.called governor ~n the eye of the electwn, and all this m::whinery which makes fraud m electwns not only pos­ a communication from the Secretary of War, in relation to an appro­ sible, but highly probable, will then be re-enactedshouhl Mr. Kellogg priation to pay the claim of the estate of Major William B. Scott ; be permitted to occupy the place he now does. which was referred to the Committee on Military Affairs, and ordered Mr. WEST. The Senator from Louisiana does not admit anything to be printed. of thekind. . BLACK BOB SHA. WNEE ThTDIAN LANDS. Mr. BAYARD. No, sir, he does not admit it; he has not the candor The SPEAKER also, by unanimous consent, laid before the House to state the fact. He merely says that he does not know as to the a letter from the Acting Secretary of the Inte1·ior, in relation to the facts. He professing to speak with special knowledge of the truth bill (H. R. No. 1725) providing for the sale of lands of the Black Bob of facts u;_ Louisiana, says here to-day in the presence of the Senate Shawnee Indians of Kansas; which was referred to the Committee on that in regard to this most important fact he has no knowledge what- Indian Affairs. ever. . MISSION INDIANS, CALIFORNIA. Mr. WEST. And he says the truth; he has no knowledg~ of It. The SPEAKER also, by unanimous consent, laid before the House . He does not qualify it in any way. He never heard of it. It IS new a letter from the Acting Secretary of the Interior, in relation to an to him. That is what the Senator from Louisiana means without appropriation for the relief of ~he Mission. Indian~ in California ; equivocation or reservation in an;v way. . . which was referred to the Committee on Indian Affarrs. Mr. BAYARD. It is a confesswn, then, of Ignorance m regard to 1\IE~IPIDS AND VICKSBURGH ~ROAD COMPANY. important facts which he certainly should have knowledge of before he undertakes to speak in regard to them. The SPEAKER also, by unanimous consent, laid before the House Mr. HAMILTON, of Maryland, addressed the Senate. Having a letter from the Secretary of War, in relation to the bill (H. R. No. spoken for an hour, 103) granting to the Me~ phis and Vicksburg~ Railroad Compan:y the Mr. SPRAGUE. If the Senator from Maryland will give way, I right of way along the nver bank at the.national ~~etery at. VIcks­ desire to move for an executive session. burgh; which was referred to the Committee on Military Affairs. Mr. HAMILTON, of Maryland. I yield for that purpose. PA. YMENT OF TROOPS BY CHECKS. The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Senator from Rhode Island The SPEAKER also, by unanimous consent, laid before the House moves that the Senate proceed to the consideration of executive busi­ a letter from the Secretary of War inclosing a letter from the Pay­ ness. master-General, sta-ting in full the obje.ctions to .the scheme.of making The motion was agreed to. · payments to troops by checks as. prov1ded !?r ill Ho~se bill No. 546; [The speech of Mr. HAMILTON, of Maryland, in full, will be found which were referred to the Committee on Military Affairs, and ordered in the Appendix.] to be printed. PRINTING OF A. REPORT. SURVEY OF THE MOUTH OF THE COQUILLE RIVER. On motion of Mr. ANTHONY, it was The SPEAKER also, by unanimous consent, laid bef?re the ~ouse Ordered That one hundred copies of the report of the Committee on Printing on the memorla.l of the employing printers of W a.shington City be printed for the use a letter from the chief clerk of the War Department, ill relation to of that committee. the survey of the mouth of the Coquille River, Oreaon; which was EXECUTIVE SESSION. referred to the Committee on Commerce, and ordered to be printed. The Senate proceeded to the consideration of executive business. PERSONAL EXPLANATION. After six minutes spent in ex~cutive session the doors were reopened, Mr. BERRY. I rise to a question of privilege. Having been unavoid­ and (at four o'clock and twenty-six minutes p. m.) the Senate ad­ ably absent :.vesterday, I wish to state that if I had ·been present I · journed. would have voted "no" on the passage of both the currency bills. MORNING HOUR. Mr. GARFIELD. I demand the regular order. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. The SPEAKER, The regular order of business is the call of com­ mittees and the morning hour begins at fifteen minutes pat~t twelve. WEDNESD.A.Y, April15, 1874. Reporo; are first in order from the Committee on Mileage. The House met at twelve o'clockm. Prayer by the Chaplain, Rev. ABOLITION OF MILEAGE SYSTEM. · J. G. BUTLER, D. D. Mr. BUNDY, from the Committee on Mileage, reported back a bill The Journal of yesterday was read and approved. (H. R. No. 1243) to abolish the system of mileage, with the recom­ mendation that it do pass. E~"UOLLED BILLS SIGNED. The bill was read. The first section provides that after the passage Mr. HARRIS, of Georgia, from the Committee on Enrolled Bills, of the act all allowance for mileage to Senators, Representatives, and ?O~ttee ~ound reported that the had examined and truly enrolled Dele~ates shall be thereby abolished. The second section provides bills of the followrng titles; when the Speaker s1gned the same: that m lieu thereof each Senator, Representative, and Delegate shall An act (H. R. No. 1003) to authorize and direct the Secretary of be entitled to receive his actual traveling expenses to and from Wash­ War to chanae the name of John Rziha, captain in the Fourth Regi­ in,gton once each way for each session of Congress. ment of Infa~try of the Army of the United States, on the register, Mr. BUNDY. I demand the previous question on the engrossment rolls, and records of the Army; to John Laube de Laubenfels; and third reading of the bill. And act (H. R. No. 12"20) for the relief of William Rood, late private Mr. HALE, of Mairre. Is not the bill subject to a point of order f of the Thirty-sixth Regiment of Wisconsin Volunteers ; The SPEAKER. What point of order does the gentleman make Y An act (H. R. No. 1600) directing the Secretary of the Treasury to Mr. HOLMAN. It keeps money in the Treasury. . issue an American register to the English-built brig Hattie Eaton; Mr. CLEMENTS. The point is that it does not make an a,ppropn- An act (H. R. No. 1930) to secme to the Domestic and Foreign Mis­ ation, if there be any point against it at all. sionary Society of the Protestant Episcopal Church in the United Mr. HALE, of Maine. My point is that it takes money from the States the land in the White Earth Indian reservation, in Minnesota, Treasury. Gentlemen say it does not.. Of co~e~t may or may not, on which is situated their church and other buildings; but it is not for us to settle that question at this time. An act (H. R. No. 194.2) authorizing the ~cretary of the ~avy to Mr. HOLMAN. This bill does not increase the pay, but on the con­ employ a retired officer at sea, and, if physically and professiOnally trary reduces it. It has been suggested.by ~he gentleman from ~i~e qualified to perform his duties, the President is authorized to restore that the Chair cannot state whether this bill makes an appropnation him to the active list; and or not or whether it increa es the expenses of the Government or not. An act (H. R. No. 2186)grantingan.A.mericanregistertotheAmeri­ Now I submit there are some things the Chair will take notj,ce of j~t can-built Peruvian steamship Rayo, now rebuilt in the United States as a ~ourt must take notice judicially of certain things, and t~e Chair and converted into a sailing-vessel. knows that instead of this taking money from the 'I'l:easury 1t on the CLERICAL FORCE OF WAR DEPARTMENT. contrary retains money in the Treasury. The SPEAKER, by unanimous consent, laid before the House a Mr. HALE, of Maine. That may be or may not be. communication from the chief clerk of the War Department, in rela­ Mr. CLYMER. But it does. tion to the reduction of the clerical force in that Department; which Mr. HOLMAN. It does retain money in the Treasury, as the Chair was referred to the Committee on Reform in the Civil Service, and knows. ordered to be printed. The SPEAKER. The Chair t.hinks the bill may be considered now in the House. DEPUTY SURVEYORS OF PUBLIC LAJ..~S. Mr. BUNDY. I demand the previous question on the engrossment The SPEAKER also, by unanimous consen , laid before the House and third reading of the bill. a communication from the Secretary of the Interior, transmitting a The SPEAKER. The ayes have it by the sound. · petition of deputy surveyors of 1)nblic lands asking for an appro- 1t!J:. COBB, of Kansas. I ask for a further count. 3094 . CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. APRIL 15,

The SPEAKER appointed Mr. BUNDY, and Mr. HALE of Main£~, should not preYaH, would that leave the bill open to be amended, if telle- rs. any gentleman desired to amend it 'f The House again divided; and the tellers reported-ayes 67, noes The SPEAKER. But the gentleman from Tennessee will observe 81. that it is impossible to take the vote on the motion to recommit, wit.h­ So the House refused to second the demand for the previous ques­ out the previous question, except by unanimous consent. For, unless tion. the previous question is operating, the motion to recommit is a de­ Mr. MAYNARD. I move to recommit the bill. batable motion; and if the previous question were not seconded, tha .Mr. RANDALL. I move to lay the bill upon the table, as a test Chair would have to assign the floor so long as any gentleman vote. claimed it. Mr. HOLMAN. I tJ:ust the gentleman from Pennsylvania will not Mr. MAYNARD. I do not understand that anybody wants to de­ make t hat motion, because the motion to recommit will serve as a test bate the bill. just as well as the motion to lay upon the table; and on that motion The SPEAKER. Of course gentlemen would be entitled to debate I demand the yeas and na.ys. the bill if the House should not second the demand for the previous Mr. RANDALL. I withdraw the motion to lay upon the table; but question. I wish to call the attention of the House to the fa.ct that the opposi­ Mr. PAGE. I desire to make a motion to strike out the second sec- tion to this bill comes from a most remarkable quarter, the gentleman tion of the bill. from Maine, [Mr. HALE,] who has been instrumental in reducing our The SPEAKER. That cannot be done now. sa] aries. Mr. HOLMAN. Was not the call for tellers too latef The SPEAKER. The opposition comes from the gentleman from The SPEAKER. No quorum voted. The Chair appoints as tellers Tennes ee on a motion to recommit. The gentleman from Indiana Mr. BUNDY and l\Ir. MAYNARD. demands the yeas and nays on that motion. The House divided; and the tellers reported-ayes 92, noes 61. Mr. HOLMAN. As a test vote. So the previous question was seconded. The yeaa and nays were ordered. The SPEAKER. The Chair will direct the reading of the rule in Mr. YOUNG, of Georgia. I move to lay the bill on the table. re~ard to the previous question. Mr. GUNCKEL. I ask for the yeas and nays on that motion. The Clerk read as follows : The yeas and nays were ordered. The previous question shall be in this form: "Shall the main question be now The question was taken on laying the bill on the table; and there put ~" It shall only be admitted when demanded by a majority of the members were-yeas 63, nays 170, not voting 57; as follows: present; and its effect shall be to P,Ut an end to all debate, (except that the member reporting the measure under consideration may close the debate, and the every-dav YEAS-Messrs. Averill, Barber, Bell, Bradley, Buckner Burchard, John B. practice since.) and to bring the House to a c:lirect vote upon a motion to conuirlt, ff Clark, jr., Stephen A. Cobb, Corwin, Crounse, Crutchfield, DarraU, Donns.n, El· such motion shall have been made. dredge, Farwell, Garfield, Giddings, Hagans, Eugene Hale, Robert S. Hale, Han­ cock, Jolm B. Hawley, Hays, Gerry W. Hazelton, Herndon, E. Rockwood Hoar, The SPEAKER. That is the case now. The effect is to bring the Geor~e F. Hoar, Hodges, Hon~hton, Hubbell, Hunter, Hurlbut, Kendall, KJlapp, House to a direct vote on the motion to commit, which is now pend­ Lamar, Lynch, Marsliall, Martin, Alexander S. McDill, McKee, Morey, Nesmith, ing. The Clerk will continue the reading. Ortb, Packard, Parsons, Pelham, Purman, Rainey, Rusk, Sawyer, Isaac W. Scud­ der, Shanks, Sheat.s, Sheldon, Sloss, George L. Smith, Strait, Sypher, Walls, John The Clerk read as follows : M. S. William , William Williams, Willie, and Pierce M. B. Young-63. And if t.his motion does not prevaiL then upon amendments reported by a. commit;. NAYS-Messrs. Adams, Albert, Albright, Archer, Arthur Atkins, Banning, tee, if any; then upon pending amendments, and then npon the main question But Barnum, Barrera, Bass, Beck, Begole, Berry, Biery, Bland, Bloun~ Bowen, Bromberg, its only effect, if a motion to postpone is pending, shall be to bring the House to a Brown, Buffinton, Bundy, Burleigh, Burrows, RoderickR. Butler, Caldwell, Cannon, vote upon such motion. Cason, Cessna, Clayton, Clements, Cl~er, Clinton L. Cobb, Coburn, Comin~o, Conger, Cook, Cotton, Cox, Crittenden Crooke, Crossland, Curtis, Danford, DaVIs, • Mr. HALE, of Maine. I rise to make a parliamentary inquiry. If Dawes, De Witt, Duell, Dunnell, Durnam,1 Eames, Eden, Fort, Foster, Freeman, the yeas and nays should be called on the motion to recommit, and Frye, Gunckel Hamilton, Benjamin W. Harris, Henry R. Harris, John T. Harris, that motion should be carried and the morning hour expire ·during Harrison, Hatcher, Joseph R. Hawley, John W. Hazelton, Hereford, Holman, Hooper, the call, will anythin(T be gained as to timeT Will not the committee Hoskins, Howe, Hunton, Hyde, Jewett, Kasson, Kelley, Kellog;, Lamison, Lam­ be able to report the again to-morrow morning so that the ques­ port, Lansin$~ Lawson, Lofland, Lowe, Luttrell, Magee, Maynara, McCrary, James bill W. McDill, .M.a.cDouaall, McJunkin. McNnlta, Mellish, Merriam, Milliken, Mills, tion will come up again on the bill T Mitchell, Monroe, MJrers, Neal, Niblack, Nunn, O'Neill, Orr, Packer, Page, Ho ea. The SPEAKER. Of course. W. Parker, Isaac C. Parker, Pendleton,_ Perry, Phelps, Pierce, Pike, James H. Mr. HALE, of Maine. I only asked the question because, if that Platt, jr., Thomas C. Platt, Poland, Randall, Rapier, Ray, Read, Rice, Richmond, Robbins, Ellis H. R.oberts, William R. Roberts, James W. Robinson, Ross, Henry is so, we may as well settle the matter here. B. Sa.vler, Milton Sayler, John G. Schumaker, Scofield, Henrv J. Scudder, Saner, Mr. RANDALL. It has to be settled. Sessions, Sherwood, Lazarus D. Shoemaker, Smart, A. Herr Smith, H. Boardman :Mr. HALE, of Maine. I am opposed to the bill because the House Smith, John Q. Smith, Southard, Speer, Sprague, Stanard, Starkweather, St. John, have already settled all this matter of salary and mileage once, and Stone, Storm, Charles R. Thomas, Townsend, 1'remain, Tyner, Vance, Waddell, Waldron, Wallace, Jasper D. Ward, Marcus L. Ward, Wells, Wheeler, White­ I doubt whether it is desirable to reopen the question. head, Whitehouse, Whiteley, Whitthorne, Wilber, Charles W. Willard, Geor~e Wil­ Mr. PARKER, of New Hampshire. I object to debate. lard, Charles G. Willi!lms, James Wilson, Wood, Woodford, Woodworth, anuJohn The main question was ordered, being upon recommitting the bill. D. Young-170. NOT VOTING-Messrs. Ashe, Barry, Bright, Benjamin F. Butler, Cain, Amos :Mr. HOL:MAN. I desire towithdrawthe callfortheyeasandnays. Clark, jr., Freeman Clarke, Creamer, Crocker, Dobbins, Elliott, Field, Glover, The SPEAKER. The yeas and nays have been ordered; but if Gooch, Harmer, Hathorn, Havens, Hendee, Hersey, Hynes, Killinger, Lawrence, there be no objection the call will be withdrawn. Leach, Lewis Longhridue, Lowndes, McLean, Moore, Morrison, Neuley, Niles, No objection was made. O'Brien, Phillips,1 Potter, ha.tt, Ransier, James C. Robinson, Sloan, Smaif, J. Ambler Smith, William A. Smith, Snyder, Standiford, Stephens, Stowell, ·Strawbridge, The question was taken on the motion to recommit the bill; and it Swann, Taylor, Christopher Y. Thomas, Thornburgh, Todd, White, William B. was not agreed to. Williams, Wilshire, Ephraim K. Wilson, Jeremiah M. Wilson, and Wolfe-57. The bill wa-s t.hen ordered to be engrossed and read a third time; So the House refused to lay the bill on the table. and being engrossed, it wa-s accordingly read the third time. Mr. HAZELTON, of Wisconsin. Would it be in order now to move The question recurred upon the passage of the bill. an amendment f · lli. HOLMAN, and MJ;. BUTLER of Tenn~ssee, called for the yea.s and nays. The SPEAKER. It would not. The ~entleman from Ohio [Mr. BUNDY] has the floor to demand the preVIous question. The yeas and nays were ordered. Mr. BUNDY. I demand the previous question on the motion to The question was taken; and there were-yeas 187, nays 49, not recommit. voting 54 ; as follows : YEAS-Messrs. Adam!!, Albert, Albright, Archer, Arthur, Atkins, Banning, Bar. Mr. :MAYNARD. Irisetomake aparliamentaryinquiry. Thepre­ ber, Barnum, Barrere, Bass, Beck, Begole, Bell, Berry, Biery, Bland, Blount, Bowen, vious question is called, as I understand, on the motion of recommit­ Bright, Brown Buffinton, Bundy, Burleigh, Burrows, Roderick R. Butler, Cald­ tal only. well, Cannon, CasonbCessna, Amos Clark, jr., John B. Clark, jr., Clements, Clymer, The SPEAKER. That cannot be done. If the previous question Clinton L. Cobb, Co urn, Comingo, Conger, Cook. Cotton, Cox, Crittenden, Crooke, Crossland, Crounse, Crutchfield, Curtis, Danford, Davis, DeWitt, Dobbins, Duell, shall be seconded the first vote will be on the motion to recommit; Dunnell, Durham, Eames, Eden, Farwell, Field, Fort, Foster, Freeman, Frye, Gar­ and if the House should negative that motion the previous question field, Gunckell, Hagans, Hamilton, Harmer, Henry R. Harris, John T. Harris, Har­ goes on operating until the engrossment and third reading of the bill. rison, Hatcher, Havens, Joseph R. Hawley, John W. H..-vzeltonhHereford, Hodges, Mr. MAYNARD. So that it will be imp_ossible to submit any amend­ Holman, Hoskins, Hunter, Hnnton, Hyde, Jewett, Kasson, Ke ey, Kello~rg, Lami­ son, Lamport, Lansing, Lawson, Lofland, Lowe, Luttrell, Magee, Martin, McCrary, ments, or have any discussion of the bill 'f James W. McDill, MacDougall, McJunkin, MeNnita, Mellisn, Merriam, Milliken, 'l'he SPEAKER. If the House shall second the demand for the pre- Mills, Mitchell, Monroe, :M'yers, Neal, Niblaok, Nunn, O'Neill Orr, Orth, Packer, vious question, it will. P~e, Ho~ea. W. Parker, Isaac q. Parker, Par;sons, Pelham, PendletonJ>erry, Phelns, :Mr. RANDALL. Why, it has been discussed for fifty years. P1erce, Pike, James H . Platt, .Jr., Thomas C. Platt, Poland, Potter, .l:'ratt, Rand:ill, Rapier, Ray, Rice, Richmond, Robbins, Ellis H . Roberts, William R.Roberts, James A MEMBER. And has been defeated for fifty years. W. Robinson, R.oss, Henry B. Sayler, Milton Sayler, John G. Schumaker, Scofield, The question being taken on seconding the demand for the previous Henry J. Scudder, Sener, Sessions, Sherwood, Lazarus D. Shoemaker, Smart, A. question, there were-ayes 86, noes 56; no quorum voting. Herr Smith, H. Boardman Smith, John Q. Smith, Southard, Speer, Sprague, Stanard, Mr. MAYNARD. I call for tellers, and, pending that, I desire to Standiford, Starkweather, St. John, Stone, Storm, Swann, CharleaR. Tllomas, Chris­ topher Y. Thomas, Townsend, Tremain, Tyner, Vance, Waddell, Waldron, Wa.J.. make a parliamentary inquh·y of the Chair. Suppose the previous lace, Jasper D. Ward, Marcus L. Ward, Wells, Wheeler, Whit.ehead, Whitehouse, question should not be seconded, what would be the first vote 'f Whiteley, Whitthorne, Wilber, Chades W. Willard, George Willard, Charles G. The RPEAKER. Thefirstvotemnst, inanyevent, beon the motion Williams, James Wilson, Jeremiah M. Wilson, Wood, Woodford, Woodworth, .rohn to recommit. D. Young, ancl Pierce M. B. Young-189. NAYS-Messrs. Averill, Barry, :Bradley, Bromberg, Burchard, Clayton, Stephl'>n Mr. MAYNARD. Very well; suppose we take that vote without A . Cobb, Corwin, Darrall, Donnan, Eldredge, Giddings, Gooch, E~i'me Hale, Rob· having the previous question oruered and the motion to recommit ert S. Hale, Hancock, Benjamin W. Han:is, John B. Hawley, .ttays, Gerry W 1874. C'ONGRESSION.AL RECORD. 3095

Hazelton, Herndon, E. Rockwood Hoar, George F. Hoar, Hooper, Houghton, Howe, Mr. GARFIELD. Let that preamble and resolution be referred to Hubbell, Hurlbut, Kendall, Knapp, Lynch, Marshall, Alexander S. McDill, McKee, some committee. Morey, Nesmith, Packard, Purmau, Read, Rusk, Sawyer, Shanks, Sloss, Strait, Walls, John M.S. Williams, William Williams, and W.illie-48. Mr. COX. All I ask is that it be referred to the Committee on Pub­ NOT VOTING-Messrs . .A.she, Buckner, Benjamin F. Butler, Cain, Freeman lic Buildings and Grounds. Clarke, Creamer, Crooker, Dawes, Elliott, Glover, Hathorn, Hendee, H ersey, Hynes, Mr. PLATT, of Virginia. While I have no objection to the reference Killinger, Lamar, Lawrence, Leach Lewis, Lou..,hridge, Lowndes, :Ma.ynard, McLean, Moore, Morrison, Negley, Nlles, O'Brien, Pfilllip , Rainey, Ransier, James or to the final pa age of this resolution, I wish to say that the state­ C. Robinson, Isaac W. Scudder, Sheats ~heldon, Sloan, Small, George L. Smith, J. ments in the preamble cannot have been made by competent judges; ,Ambler Smith, William A. Smith, Snyder, Stephens, Stowell, Strawbridge, S:ypher, on the contrary, they must have been made by perfectly imbecile 'l.'avlor, Thornburgh, Todd, White, William B. Williams, Wilshire, Ephraim K. fools, who do not know what they talk about. Wilson, and Wolf&-53. • Mr. COX. I do not know what an imbecile fool is. So the bill was passed. :Mr. PLATT, of Virginia. I suppose the gentleman from New York Mr. BUNDY moved to reconsider the vote by which the bill was [Mr. Cox] offers the resolution as it was handed to him. passed; and also moved that the motion to reconsider be laid on the Mr. COX. The gentleman can make his report upon the subject table. when he is prepared to do so. The latter motion was agreed to. No objection was made, and the preamble and resolution were accordingly referred. ORDER OF BUSINESS. JAMES ATKINS. Mr. GARFIELD. I rise for the purpose of moving to go into Com­ Mr. DAWES, by unanimous consent, reported back from the Com­ mittee of the Whole on the state of the Union on the appropriation mittee on Ways and Means a bill (H. R. No. 2814) for the relief of. bill; but before doing so I will yield to several gentlemen who have James Atkins, late collector of internal revenue for the fourth dis­ matters to present which will not give rise to debate. trict of Georgia; and moved that the committee be discharged from THE CURRENCY. the further consideration of the same, and that it be referred to the Committee on Claims. Mr. MELLISH, by unanimous consent, presented resolutions of the The motion was agreed to. Union League Club of the City of New York, in reference to the cur­ rency; which were referred to the Committee on Banking and Cur­ JOHN FRITZ. rency, and ordered to be printed in the RECORD. Mr. BIERY, by unanimous consent, introduced a bill (H. R. No. The resolutions are as follows : 2985) authorizing the Commissioner of Pat-ents to consider the appli­ .Resolved, That the Union Lea~e Club of the City of New York disapproves of cation of John Fritz for extension of patent for rolling iron; which any action of Congre s which will tend to inflate the currency of the United States, was read a first and second time, ordered to be printed, and, with as unjustifiable by exigencies of commerc~ as a violation of all the rules of finance the accompanying papers, referred to the Committee on Patents. an(l as contrary to the express pledges to une1 people of this nation. Rr.solved, That we cordially approve the action of the governor of this State in INTRODUCTION OF BILLS. promptl:v and clearly presenting to the Legislature and to the people the great perils mvolved in the proposed inflation of the currency, and we cordially indorse and The SPEA.KER. The Chair does n~t make a personal application sustain the sentiments expressed in his messaa-e. to any gentleman, but he desires to say that the morning hour of Resolved, That copies of these resolutions be forwarded without delay to the Monday is provided by the rules for the introduction and reference members of both Houses of Congress. of bills. That morning hour ought to be abolished and thrown into GEOGRAPIDCAL AND GEOLOGICAL SURVEYS. the ordinary morning hour, for if gentlemen insist upon introducing Mr. SHOEMAKER, of Pennsylvani;:l., by unanimous consent, sub­ bills for reference every day and thus obstructing business, it is no mitted the following resolution; which was read, considered, and saving to the business of the House at all to have a morning hour on agreed to: Monday for the reference of bills. The regular business of the House o~~ht not to be interfered with by the introduction and reference of Be it resolved, That the President of the United St..'ltes be requested to inform the House what geoi:E'aphical and geological surveys under different Departments bills except during the morning hour of Monday, when the largest and branches of the u-overnment are operating in the same and conti!!Uous areas of possible latitude is given for that purpose, unless some particUlar territory west of the Mississippi River, ~d whether it be not practicable to con· reason or equity can be shown why the ordinary business of the House solidate them under one Department or to define the geographical limits to be em· shall be interrupted for that purpose. The Chair has endeavored to braced by each. enforce the rule confining the introduction of bills to the Monday TIDE-FLATS L~ D'WAMISH BAY. morning hour, but when a gentleman rises and ask unanimous con­ Mr. ORR, by unapimous consent, from the Committee on the Pub­ sent for that purpose the Chair cannot very well object. But the lic Lands, reported a bill (H. R. No. 2984) to relinquish the tide-flats Chair would take there ponsibility of saying that one sturdy objector in D'Wamish Bay to the city of Seattle, in the Territory of Washing­ in this House would be of very great advantage to the business of the ton; which was read a first and second time, referred to the Com­ House. mittee of the Whole on the state of the Union, and, with the accom­ Mr. BIERY. I desire to say that the bill I have just introduced was panying report, ordered to be printed. not in my possession on Monday last; that is the reason I introduce LOCATION OF THE CAPITAL. it now. Mr. BLAND. I ask unanimous consent to offer for consideration ENROLLED BILLS SIGNED. at this time the following concurrent resolution: Mr. PENDLETON, from the Committee on Enrolled Bills, reported Resolved by the House of Representatives, (the Senate concurring,) That the system that they had examined and found truly enrolled a bill of the follow­ of mileage for Senators and Representatives in Con~ess be abolished, and that the ing title; when the Speaker signed the same : · capital be moved to a place most central for all parr,s of the Union, to be hereafter An act (S. No. 617) to fix the amount of United States notes and the selected and agreed upon. circulation of national banks, and for other purposes. M:r. POTTER. Could not that be put upon its passage now t The SPEAKER. It can be by general consent. ORDER OF BUSrnESS. Mr. IUCE. I ask that Chicago be inserted as the place where the Mr. GARFIELD. I now call for the regular order. capital shall be located. Mr. COBURN. I desire to say that some time since the 7th of 1\Ir. CROOKE. I would name Cheyenne City a.s the most central April was fixed for the consideration of the bill for the reduction of point. the Army. That time has passed, the business of the Committee on Mr. BLAND. If mileage is to be abolished, we want the capital at Banking and Currency having occupied the attention of the House the most central point. until now. I will not now insist that the House shall proceed to Mr. COX. I object. consider the special order, but I desil:e to give notice that immedi­ Mr. :ALAND. I give notice that I will introduce this resolution on ately upon the disposition of the legislative appropriation bill I will Mondu.y next, if I can get the opportunity. ask the House to proceed to the consideration of the bill for the reduc­ tion of the Army. NEW STATE DEPARTMENT Bun.DING. Mr. DAWES. What is the order to which the Chair refers f

MI COX. I ask unanimous consent to submit the followin(J'0 pream- The SPEAKER. The bill for the reduction of the Army was on ble and resolution: · the 11th of March made a special order for April 7, at half-past one Whereas $3,400,000 have already been appropriated by Congress for the new State o'clock, to the exclusion of all other orders. Department now in course of construction in this city under the direction of the Mr. DAWES. And from day to day until disposed ofT Snpervisin~ Architect of the Treasury; and whereas the said Supervisino- Archi­ tect no~ asks Congress to al?pr_opriate 1,500,000 more, though the south wil'fg walls, The SPEAKER. From day to day until disposed of, to the exclu­ or one-sixth of the whole building, are not yet completed; and whereas it is evident sion of all other orders, except appropriation bills. that a very large amount of money is being spent·in frivolous or questionable orna­ Mr. DAWES. Was it made a special order in the House or in the mentation; and whereas it is the opinion of competent judaes that, estimating on Committee of the Whole T · the manner in which the work has been carried o~l at least t-;elve years' time ancl ~.ooo,ooo will be required to finish the whole building; and whereas it is also the The SPEAKER. In the House. opinion of competent.judges that t.he plan adopted by the Supervising Architect has LEGISLATIVE, ETC., APPROPRIATION BILL. very serious defects m it, and that the building if completed on that plan will not only be a. failure but a reproach to our architects: Therefore, The question bein~ taken on the motion of Mr. GARFIELD, that the' Resolve41 That the Secretary of State be, and is hereby, authorized to appoint a House resolve itself rnto the Committee of the Whole on the legisla­ boa:rd of unree ~ell-kn~wn and competent architects, not. in Government employ, tive, executive, andj udicial appropriation bill,the motion was agreed to. residents o~ Philadelphia, N ew York, and Boston, respectively, whose duty it shall be to examme and report what 'means are necessary to insure a more economical The House accordingly resol\ed itself into the Committee of the method of doing the work, anu also a plan for improving the external appearance of Whole, (Mr. WOODFORD in the chair,) and resumed the consideration as well as the internal arrangement of the building. of the bill (H. R. No. 2064) making appropriations for the legislative, 3096 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. APRIL 15,

executive, and judicial expenses of the Governmentfor the year end­ of March 3, 1873, named the Chief Clerk and the Journal clerk, and ing June :30, 1875, and for other purposes. gave them an increase of $600 so long a-s the present incumbents 'rhe CHAIRMAN. 'Vhen this bill was last under consideration in should hold the positions. The question was raised whether that the Committee of the Whole the paragraph beginning on paO'O 5, increase was not a pec1tliwn t o those officers, not an increase of salary making a.ppropriations for compensation of officers and employfs of belonging to thQ position, and whether the repealing act of J anuary the Honse of Representatives, had been read so far as the wonl " dol­ 20 swept away a peculiar grant like t.his to those peculiar officials. lars," on line 111. The Clerk will resume the reading of t he bill at Wewere inclined to think it had swept t hem away, and we left out that point. the increase from the text of the bill. The proposition of the gen­ The Clerk read as follows: tleman from Pennsylvania is to restore them. The committee were divided a-s to whatl.he effect was, and without recommendation have Officer charged with disbursing of contingentfund, $556; Chief Clerk and Journal clerk, 3,000 each. submitted the question to the House. The committee divided; and there were-ayes 47, noes 39; no Mr. KELLOGG. I move to amend by inserting after the words quorum voting. "Chief ClerkandJournalclerk" the words" and tworeadin~clerks;" Mr. .ALBRIGHT demanded tellers. so as to make the salaries of these officers $3,000 each. If this amend­ Tellers were ordered; and Mr. ALBRIGHT and ?tfr. GARFIELD were ment be agreed to I shall, when we reach line 116, move to strike out appointed. "ten" before the words " assistant clerks," and insert "eight," as that ?tfr. KELLOGG. If I understand the amendment, it does not affect is the clause in which these two reading clerks are now included. the amendment we have already adopted. · • My reason for moving to make the salaries of these officers $3,000 Mr. GARFIELD. · It does not. is that I think their labors in this House entitle them to have pre­ The CH.AffiMAN. The amendment as offered does not affect the cisely the same pay that we a.greed in the Jast Congress they should amendment already offered to the bill by the committee. have. In connection with the reduction of our own salaries we have Mr. .ALBRIGHT. What I propose is to do what we have already cut down these officers; but I think the very hard kind of work that done regarding the Chief Clerk of the Senate. We do not propose they have to perform entitles them to the pay wBich in the last Con­ to do any more for these clerks than has been done for the Senate gress we agreed to give them. I hope there will be no objection on clerks. the part of the Committee on .Appropriations or any other members The CHAIRMAN. It is to put them back to the place they occu- - of the House to this amendment. pied before the repeal of the salary bill. .Mr. RANDALL. I think the amendment is eminently proper and The committee again divided; and the tellers reported-ayes 65, just. There are no more faithful officers here, none performing more noes 25. constant duty, than these reading clerks. I hope the amendment will So the amendment was agreed to. prevail. Mr. W .AD DELL. I move to amend the same paragraph, after the Mr. GARFIELD. ?tfr. Chairman, no man in this House can have a amendment just adopted, byinserting after" rea-ding clerks" the fol­ higher appreciation of the merits of our reading clerks than I have, lowing: "assistant Journal clerk and tally clerk." and I should be exceedingly glad if it had been possible to let them ?tfr. HOLMAN. I wish to ascertain what will be the effect of that pass by in the work of reducmg salaries. The Committee on .Appro­ amendment: priations, however, feel it their duty to remind the House that we Mr. WADDELL. It is to give these clerks the same compensation have now reached in this bill the point where the increa-se of salaries as is given to the other clerks in the same paragraph. They are faith­ began last year. It was with the officers in charge of our affairs in ful and competent officers. this House that the little beginning of the whole salru;y increase Mr. HOLMAN. That is increasing their salaries to $3,600 a yeU!l'. arose last year. Mr. RANDALL. No; it only raises them to 3,000 each. Now there is, as to the clause now under consideration, a real Mr. HOLMAN. The question is whether, after repealing these sal­ question in the mind of the Committee on .Appropriations which we aries at the demand of public sentiment, we shall go back and in the desire to raise, and which would have been raised on the moment. very same session of Congress restore them again. But in regard to the two officers embraced in the amenslment, Con­ Mr. RANDALL. That meant our salaries. gress plainly and unequivocally repealed the increa-se of salary as to lli. HOLMAN. If it were rigJit to repeal the salary bill of the them as well as to ourselves. The question is now merely whether la-st session, a year ago, then it is not right we should restore all we shall begin to reincrease salaries which, by the act of January 20 these increased salaries at this session. last, the House cut down. I hope we shall not have a long debat.e, Mr. WADDELL. Thegreatd:ifficulty about the increase of salaries but I desire the House to understand that this is the beginning of the was about its application to ourselves and not to the employes of the work of reincreMing salaries. House. I hope the House will adopt the amendment I have offered. Mr. KELLOGG. Notwithstanding our own salaries are cut down, Mr. GARFIELD. Mr. Chairman, I desire to say to the House, once I am perfectly willing to pay men according to their work; and I hold for all, what I hoped! would not be compelled to say. There are no that these reading clerks are entitled to receive $3,000, instead of the officers in the House who do not know that I am friendly to their salary to which we have reduced them. getting whate~r it is right they should have; but they are better The question being taken on the amendment of Mr. KELLOGG, it paid than the majority of the clerks in this city who are employed was agreed to ; there being ayes 104, noes not counted. all the time. Take the men in the Treasury Department, and in the Mr. .ALBRIGHT. I move to amend by inserting after the words various other Departments, men at the head of divisions, men who "Chief Clerk and Journal clerk" the words "while such positions are have done long years of patient service, who serve the year through, held by the present incumbents, and no longer, $3,600." and who get only twelve hundred, fourteen hundred, sixteen hundred, Mr. HOLMAN. I mise the question of order whether this para­ or eighteen hundred dollars a year. There is not a man of them who graph is open to amendment before it has been read through. would not be delighted to get the dutythese clerks here have with a. The CHAIRMAN. The point stated by the gentleman from Indiana long vacation and the pay of most of the clerks in the employ of this [Mr. HoLMAN] seems to be correct. The Clerk will read the para­ House and the Senate. But because they are our friends, because we graph through, and then the gentleman from Pennsylvania [?tfr. see them every day and stand before them when we vote, it is an un­ .ALBRIGHTl will be recognized. gra{}ious thing for gentlemen to oppose them. If, however, we are Mr. G~FIELD. For convenience in considering the paragraph, now to begin one by one and restore all the salaries which have been I ask that we may treat each clause as a separate paragraph. I think reduced, we merely make a mock of onrselves in the face of the nation. this course will facilitate business; and it can be done if there be no .All together have suffered a heavy reduction in salaries, because we objection. believed justice and public sentiment required it at our hands, and Mr. HOLMAN. I shall not object as to this particular paragraph. now it is proposed to begin the business of restoring them one by one Mr. GARFIELD. I apply the request to this paragraph only. from the top to the bottom of the list. There is no logic in it unless The CHAIRMAN. The Chair hears no objection, and the various we go throu.~h the whole of them and repeal the act of January 20, clauses of the pending paragraph will be read and considered sepa­ 1874. I sha.u demand a quorum of the committee on every vote, and rately. shall carry them through to the yea-s and nays of the House if Mr. .ALBRIGHT. My rea-son for offering this amendment is that necessary. the compensation of the Chief Clerk of the Senate is in this bill re­ MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE. ta.ined as it was last year, this clause being added: "while the pres­ The Committee informally rose, and a message was received from the ent incumbent shall hold the office, and no longer." .Another rea-son Senate, by 1tfr. SYMPSON, one of its clerks, notifying the House that for the amendment is that the salary which it names is that which that body had passed, without amendment, a bill (H. R. No. 2550) was fixed last year by this House for these officers, and surely their making appropriations for the payment of the teachers in the public labors are no less now than they were formerly. The compensation schools in the District of Columbia, and providing for the levy of a they are now receiving is in fact less in some respects than it was tax to reimburse the same. before the action of the .House last year. !presume this is well un­ derstood by members of the House, and that no further debate is LEGISLATIVE, ETC., APPROPRIATION BILL. necessary. The Committee resumed its session. Mr. GARFIELD. The subject referred to in the amendment of the Mr. RANDALL. I have alwaya here in this House been in favor .gentleman from PeDRSylvania [Mr. ALBRIGHT] was before the Com­ of paying adequate salaries. · I think it is an entire mistake not to mittee on .Appropriations1 and I am directed to say that the commit­ pay a sufficient sum so as to allow an officer to live here with his tee was divided in opinwn as to the effect of the r epealing law. I family; Now, theseveryclerksof whom we are speaking are required will sta,te the question, and ask the House to determine it. The law to be as intelligent, and, if it may not be considered a reflection, I might ·~ .... -·

1874. . CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. 3097 say more intelligent than a member of Congress. Whenever you wa.nt ous members of the House than of one who does not occupy that to know anythin~ in regard to pa~t legislation, or in connection with position. These gentle.rnen are associated with us every day. We the business of tne House, where do we :first go f To the clerks. If see them daily, know t.hem, are personally acquainted wit h them. they were not men of character and integrity antl intelligence we \Ve admire them for their goocl qualities. But, Mr. Chairman, that should not go to them, and they would not be equal to thf'ir places. does not furnish a reason why we should raise their salaries to the In t his instance I consider they are equal to their situatioJJS, aml I exclusion of all others. consider the cliscrepanoy between a member's salary of 5,000 and a I am surprised that the chairman of the Committee on Reform in clerk's of ..: 3,000, as proposed in this amendment, js not too great. It the Civil Service should be the man to champion this movement. I is too great, perhaps, p.ow, and I think the margin ought to be nar­ have sat in my seat here, except wJ;ien the vote has been taken, while rowed. I hope, therefore, the amendment will be adoptecl. the salaries have been raised of three or four different classes of clerks. The chairman of the Committee on Approprjations proposes to ave I have voted against the increase, and it is the gentleman from Con­ at the spigot. I will join with him when ;we shall reach those large necticut, [Mr. KELLOGG,] the chairman of t he Committee on Civil items, those hunclrecls of thousands of dollars of contingent expenses, Service Reform, who p1·oposes to raise the pay of these officers. $ ~:!0,000 here and 50,000 there. I shall join with him in cutting down Now, sir, I was here last year when this whole question was voted this overgrowth of contingent appropriations. But let us not be on, and I voted against the raising of all these salaries. I believed afraid of doing justice to our clerks whe are entitled to this compen­ then, and experience ba-s proved the wisdom of my action and of sation. If you expect them to be men of integrity you must pay that of those who acted with me, that the people would not sanction them sufficiently, and, for one, I wish to give them ncb. alaries thv.t the raising of these salaries; and if ever the people have pronounced they will not attempt to go into the lobby or be interestecl in the on ai:J.y question in a manner which Congress could hear and ought legislation of this House in any particular. to heed, it has been upon t.his question. Mr. SPEER. My theory of reform is, that you must save, not at Now, sir, what has Congress done this session¥ It has repealed all the bung only, but at the spigot also. But while I would do that and the laws whlch have been passed raising the salaries of the different pay a strict ::-egard to little things in this House, it seems to me there officers of the Government. It began at the top and has repealed is reason in this motion of the gentleman from North Carolina [.Mr. them all. And now, as soon as we reach these officers again in this vV AD DELL] for an increase to these two officers. These ausistant clerks bill, it is proposed at the very first of them to raise the salaries to have increased duties in this Congress which they never bad before. what they were before, because, it is said, these men discharge their The number of members in this House is forty or fifty greater than duties. Sjr, I believe that the officers of the Government everywhere it ever was before. And with that increa eel number of members discharge their duties. I believe there are very few exceptions to comes increased business; and I venture to say that when the Journal that rule, and I see no reason why the salaries of these officers of the of this first session of the Forty-third Congress shall have been pub­ Government shoulcl be raised any more than the salaries of others. lished it will be found that it is one-third larger than the Journal of The gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. PACKER] who offers this any session of equal length in the history of the Congress of this amendment, does it upon the ground that we have just raised the nation. salaries of the reailing clerks and others, and tha-t therefore we should Therefore, while I stand by the principle that we should guarcl raise the salaries of those to whom this amendment refers. Sir, when strictly ancl carefully every appropriation, whether it be a uollar or we reach another class of clerks there will be a proposition to raise whether it be a hundred thousand dollars, the question still lies back their salaries, too, and the argument will Le that you must r aise the of that, is the compensation enough,. or is the proposed increase in salarieli of that class of clerks because you have raised the salaries of itself righU Now, there are many officers of this House who have these, and the argument will become stronger, if there is any force no additional labors with the increase of the number of members. in it at all, every time you raise the salary of an officer, because it The reason that applies here would not apply in their case. I pro­ may be said that the discrimination is still more unjust if, after rais­ po e, therefore, to treat every one of these officers simply upon his ing so many, we should omit to raise the salary of a few. own individual merits, and if there is rea on for any proposed increase, Now, I hope this thing will stop right here. I hope we shall not a-s I believe there is in this case, I shall not oppose it. go on repealing what was done earlier in the session, but shall stand The question being taken on Mr. \VADDELL'S amendment, there by our action then. were-ayos 77, noes 59; no quorum voting. Mr. KELLOGG. I move to strike out the last word in order that Mr. HOLMAN. I insist that there shall be a quorum on this vote. I may say a word or two in reply to the gentleman from Illinois. I The CHAIRMAN. No quorum having voted, the Chair will order simply wish to say that I agree with the gentleman from Illinois in tellers; and appoints the gentleman from North Carolina, Mr. WAD­ regard to this amendment, and when he says that I stand here to DELL, a.nd the chairman of the Committee on ~ppropriations, Mr. champion the raising of all these sala.ries he speaks what he does not GARFIELD. know. If he had watched my votes he would have seen that I have The committee again divided; and the tellers reported-ayes 101, voted for only a single increase. noes 46. Mr. HAWLEY, of Illinois. I did not say that the gentleman So the amendment wa-s agreed to. championed all these propositions to raise salaries. I said that he The Clerk reacl the following paragraph : was the first to propose an increase. Six assistant clerks, (including assistant .Journal clerk,) at $2,592 each. Mr. KELLOGG. And ) am willing that gentlemen of the House shall hold me responsible for the motion to increa-se the salaries of Mr. KELLOGG. In consequence of the amendment jnst adopted, these reading clerks to what it was agreed they should have during I move to amend the paragraph by striking out the words "includ­ the last Congress. I say, Mr. Chairman, t.hey earn their money, and in[ assistant J ournq.l clerk." when men earn their money as these reading clerks have to do I am The amenclment was agreed to. not to be frightened from increasing their pay, whether I am ehairman Mr. GARFIELD. The word "six" will have to be changed to of the Civil Service Reform Committee or any other. I will vote to "four." I move that that amendment be made. increase the pay of every officer either here or in any of the Depart­ The amendment was agreed to. ments whero I am satisfied that their work and ability and the The Clerk read the following paragraph: interests of the service demand it. But I do not consider it a reason Ten assistant clerk!!, including librarian and assistant librarian, at 2,160 ca~h. because I vote for the increa-se of salary to one clerk that I must vote Mr. KELLOGG. The word "ten" should be changed to "eight," for the increase of the salaries of others. I am with the gentleman in consequence of the amendment adopted in regard to the reading from Illinois against increa-sing the salaries of these other clerks, and clerks. I move that the para~aph be so amended. · that is all I have to say. I withdrnw the amendment to the amend­ The amendment was agreea to. ment. The Clerk read the following paragraph: Tho question was taken on Mr. PACKER's amendment, and it was Four assistant clerks, at 1,800 ea<:h. not agreed to. The Clerk read a-s follows : Mr. PACKER. I move to amend the paragraph by striking out "$1,1300" and inserting in lieu thereof "$2,000." As the other clerks One engineer, 1,800. have been restored to their original pay, I think it right that these Mr. BROMBERG. I move to strike out "$1,800" and to insert assistant clerks shall also be restored to theirs. " 2,160." :Mr. GARFIELD. I hopetheamendmentwillnot be adopted. The Mr. Chairman, I do not think the House intends to do injustice, but same class of duties is done-- the Honse has already voted for the salary of the engineer of the The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Illinois [Mr. HAWLEY] has Senate 2,160. Now the engineer of the House has, if anything, more been recognized by the Chair. · duties to perform than the en~ineer of the Senate. He not only has Mr. HAWLEY, of Illinois. I have looked on with a great deal of more boilers to attend to, bnt ne also has the superintendence of the surprise while the Committee has been increasing the salaries of these entire lighting apparatus of the dome and also of the heating appa­ officers. It has been stated by different gentlemen that these clerks ratus away down to the Senate wing. He has a great deal more re­ are all good men, and that they fait~y discharge their duties. No sponsibility, and he certainly ought to have the same salary as the . one questions that. But, as has been stated by the gentleman from engineer of the Senate has. Ohio, [1\ir. GARFIELD,] we began last year just at this point. And Mr. GARFIELD. We already pay this engineer more than the why¥ Because it was supposed it would be less diffinult to raiso the engineer of the whole Treasury building gets, and if the engineer of salaries of tlwse who were officers of the House, personally known to the Senate gets too much that is no rea~on why we should raise the tho members of the House. And experience shows t.hat it id much salary of our own engineer. easier to raise the salary of an officer who is well known to the vari- Mr. BROMBERG. But, l'rir. Chairman-- 3098 CONGRESSIONAL ·RECORD. APRIL 15,

Mr. GARFIELD. Debate is exhausted on the amendment. mittee on War Claims a greater compensation than they pay to the lilT. BROMBERG. I move to strike out the last word. clerk of the Committee on Claims. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair is compelled to rule that debate is lilT. KELLOGG. I rise to oppo e the amendment to the amend­ exhausted on the amendment. ment. The gentleman from New York, [Mr. HALE,] in alluding to Mr. CONGER. I move to strike out the last word. the "Senator from Connecticut," of course could not mean me. When Mr. BROMBERG. I have already made that motion. the gentleman says there was anything designed to be delusive about Mr. KELLOGG. The gentleman from Alabama [M.l·. BROMBERG] the re olution which I offereil last January, or that there was a.ny can oppose the motion of the gentleman from Michigan. · trick in it., I tell him he is entirely mistaken. I was simply a repre­ M.r. BROMBERG. I made the motion first. sentative of the Committee on War Claims on this floor. I was in­ The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recognize-d the gentleman from Mich­ structed. to report that resolution, and I reported it in that form, and igan, [1\11·. CONGER.] The Chair may make mistakes, but he intends it was adopted by the House. The amendment which I have now to be impartial. sent up to the Clerk's desk merely cru:ries out that resolution, a.s the Mr. CONGER. I have moved to strike out the last word, and I law stood at that time. yield my time to the gentleman from Alabama, [Mr. BHO~:IBERG.] I wish to say but one word more, for I shall submit to what.ever may M.l·. BROMBERG. The gentleman from Ohio [1\Ir.GARFIELD]says be the action of the House in this matter. I think the duties of the that if this House has put the salary of the engineer of the Senate clerk of the Committee on War Clains are equal to those of the too high, that is no rea on why we should put the snJary of the engi­ clerk of the Committee on Appropriations or of any other commit­ neer of the House at the same figure. I take it for granted that this tee of this House. The chairman of that committee [Mr. LAWRENCE] House considered carefully what it was doing when it fixed the salary is not now in his seat. But I will say this: from the hour that com­ of the Senate engineer at 2,160 ; and I do not think this House stands mittee was organized during t.his session there has not been a day or ready to-day to vote that it pa-ssed upon that salary carelessly or heed­ night but what, upon the requisition of the chairman or some mem­ les.<~ly. I know that I for one did not, and I do not believe any other ber of the committee, the clerk whom we have employed has been member of this House will admit that he did. I think it is but sim­ called upon to perform work for the committee. Though the com­ ple justice that we should fix the saln.ry of our engineer, he having mittee may have accomplished very little at this session thus far, much more onerous duties to perform and greater responsibility, at at there has been a report drawn that kept the clerk constantly at work, least the same amount which we have agreed to give the engineer of day and night, in the early part of the session. I regret that the the Senate. • report has not been formally presented, but it has been printed and Mr. CONGER. I withdraw the amendment to t.he amendment. members know what it is. I say that the immense mass of claims The question was taken upon the amendment moved by Mr. BROM­ before the committee, the peculiar character of those cla.ims, and the BERG; and it was not agreed to upon a division, ayes 25, noes not work required of this clerk, entit.le him to as high compensation as counted. that received by either the clerk of the Committee on Appropriations The Clerk resumed the reading of the bill, and read as follows : or the clerk of t-he Committee on Ways and Means. I think the Clerk to Committee on Appropriations, $2,592; messenger to Committeo on Ap­ amendment I have sent to the desk proposes no higher compensa­ propriations, $1,314. tion than t his clerk is entitled to. I shall of com"Se submit to what­ evet· action the House may take. Mr. KELLOGG. I have an amendment to offer which would have The amendment to the amendment was agreed to ; and the amend- been offered by the gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. HAZELTON] had ment. as amended was adopted. he been here. It is to insert after tho portion of the bill just read the The Clerk read as follows: following: Sergeant-at-Arms, $4,320. Clerk to Committee on War Claims, $2,484. That is in a-ccordance with a resolution which was passed by this bth. PIKE. I move to amend the clause just read by striking out House last January,and until that resolution is rescinded or repealed $4,320 and inserting $5,000. I understand that hereoofore the salary the action of the House in this bill should correspond to it. The of the Sergeant-at-Arms has been $5,000, and possibly more. The Committee on Appropriations seems to have left out the clerk of the reduction has been made I believe in consequence of the understand­ Committes on War Claims entirely. ing that this officer had the use of a horse ; but it has been decided Mr. GARFIELD. There is no objection to that amendment on the that he should not have one. Therefore I think the pay ought to part of the Committee on Appropriations, and it ought to be made. stand as it was before. But I ask the gentleman to insert it after the provision relating to The amendment was not agreed to. the Committee on Claims, as the Committee on Claims is the older The Clerk read as follows: committee. Door-keeper, 2,592. Mr. KELLOGG. I have no objection to that, Mr. HOSKINS. I move to amend the clause just read by making blr. HALE, of New York. In what form hasthisHousedetermined the salary $3,000. Every gentleman on this floor is entirely convers­ the salary of the clerk of the Committee on War Claims t The gen­ ant with the duties of the Door-keeper of thi~:; Hou e. His attendance tleman from CoilJWcticut [Mr. KELLOGG] says that he proposes this is required here constantly, not only during the sessions of the amendment in pursuance of a resolution of the House fixing the com­ House, but before and after the sessions. I am authorized to sa.y pensation of this clerk. What was that resolution f that during the last year the Door-keeper has been absent from his Mr. KELLOGG. It wa-s passed in January last, and this is the post of duty but seven days in the whole year, except by order of the amount then fixed, as the law stood at t.hat time. House. For a gentleman who is competent to perform the duty Mr. HALE, of New York. I think the gentleman is in error. That required of the Door-keeper, and whose attendance is required here· is why I ask him to refer to the resolution. constantly, who is obliged to reside here the year round with his Mr.' KELLOGG. I have the resolution here. It is as follows: family I submit that. 3,000 is a small salary. Re.wlved, That the compensation of the clerk of tbe Committee on War Claims Beside~;, Mr. Chairman, this amendment will simply give this officer shall hereafter be the same as now paid to the clerk of the Committee on Claims. precisely the same salary he has been receiving under the action of Mr. HALE, of New York. The sala1·y proposed by the gentieman the last Congress. I do not propose to raise his salary one dollar, but from Connecticut does not correspond with the salary of the clerk of simply to cont.inne the compensation be is uow receiving. In my the Committee on Cbims, which ma.y be found in the very next clause judgment $3,000 is a very small compensation in view of the duties of this bill. imposed upon this officer and the competent manner in which he dis­ Mr. KELLOGG. At the time this resolution was passed the salary charges them. If any member of Congress during the vacation re­ of tile clerk of the Committee on Claims was precisely what I have quires information in relation to books or documents he writes to the named in this amendment. The action of Congress since that time Door-keeper, who is obliged to go around and search up tho::r~e docu­ has changed the compensation of the clerk of the Committee on Claims ments and papers. I hope that the amendment will be adopted unan­ and of some of the other committee clerks; but it has not changed in imously. any manner whatever the compensation of the clerk of the Committee Mr. GARFIELD. I rise to oppose t he amendment, and ask for a on War Claims vote. llil'. HALE, of New York. I move to amend the amendment so :18 The amendment was not agreed to; there being ayes 32, noes not to make the sum 2,160, the compensation provided by this bill for counted. the cleTk of the Committee on Claims. The Clerk read as follows : bfr. GARFIELD. That is right. First assistant postmaster, $2,088 ; fourteen messengers, seven at $1,728 each; and 1\h. HALE, of New York. I wish to take this occasion simply to seven at 1,080 each. repeat a protest that I have before made upon the floor of this House Mr. GARFIELD. I am instructed by the Committee on Appropri­ against precisely the kind of legislation which was initiated by the ations to offer a series of amendments which I will submit tagether. resolution introduced by the Senator from Connecticut. I think more I move to insert as the salary of the first assistant postma ·ter 1, 00 mischief in this matter of salaries grows out of precisely that kind instead of 2,088; to insert 1,500 instead of 1,728 a the compensa­ of delusive resolutjon1 fixin~ somebody's salary at the same which tion of each of the fourteen messen~ers ; and 1,200 inst-ead of 1,080 somebody else gets, lUBteaa of naming the precise amount--more as the compensation of the seven other messengers. mischief grows out of thatthan out of anything else connected with Mr. STORM. Is not that an increase 'f the forms of legislation. And for one I give notice that in all cases Mr. GARFIELD. It increases the pay of the lowest class, and de­ hereafter whenever such a proposition comes to my ears I shall ob­ crea-ses the pay of the other two classes. ject to and oppose any resolution in that form. I do not believe this Mr. STORM. What is the effect on the average f House has proposed, or now proposes, to pay the clerk of the Com- 1\Ir. GARFIELD. The average is a decrease of several hundred

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dollars on the whole. The committee thought as to tho pay of these vestigations and special committees ordered by the Honse ~mtside of officers that the upper grades should be reduced, while some increase the regular business of the House f - should be made in the lower grades. The effect of the amendment Mr. GARFIELD. Theoretically that time may come, but practi­ is to make a considerable total reduction. cally we have not seen it during the past two years. There are now Mr. SPEER. I oft'er an amendment to the amendment. I move an more investigations going on than tho stenographers can overtake. amendment to the amendment, in line 153, by striking out '' seven,H The ameudment was agreecl to. where it occurs twice in that line, and inserting "four" after the The Clerk read. as follows : la t "seven," at the end of the line. Superintendent of the folding-room, 2,160; superintendent and assistant super­ The CHAIRMAN. The first relat.es to the nnmber of messengers. intendent of the document-room, at 2,160 e:wh; document file clerk, $1,800; five Mr. SPEER. 'Yes; I wish to strike that out. I move in line 154 messengers, at $1,800, and six, at $1,440 each. · · to strike out "twenty-eight" and insert "four," so it will read "four­ Mr.l\IcKEE. I move to amend by striking out the words "and six teen messengers at $1,404 each." at $1,440 each." . I do this for this reason. I have been informed these fourteen mes­ I endeavored to get through a resolution to a~certain the number sengers perform precisely the same work, precisely the same service of these employes, and the chairman of the committee told me I could from day to day, and Conq.ress has been paying seven of them $1,700 find out easily enough how it was ; but I believe as matters now stand that it is impossible to find ont anything about it. The record, how­ each1 and the other seven qp700 less. Now I propose simply to equal­ ize the pay of the fourteen messengers. It does not increase and does ever, I understand shows that there are now more employes in the not diminish the compensation. folding-room than we had before we did away with the franking If my information is correct in reference to the messengers about privilege. A great deal of the work has been laid aside. There re­ the post-office I can see no sense and no justice in making a distinc­ mains very little to do, and yet in place of retrenchment we find more tlOn of $700 in theu compensation. The amendment submitted by the messengers put on than t.here were before. As it now stands there chairman of the Committee on Appropriations is in the direction of are for this service five mes en~ers at $1,800 each, and five at 1,440 my amendment, but does not go far enough, still recognizing a dis­ each. The committee propo es that the number shall be five at $1,800 tinction of 300. and six at $1,440. I see no use for this. Mr. GARFIELD. If the gentleman will allow me in his time, I will The fact is that the Door-keeper's department has grown and grown say that the Committee on Appropriations found from the last year until now I believe he has one hundred and. twenty-nine or one hun­ the name of these two classes of officers was the same, but hitherto dred and thirty employes about the Capitol under his controL I think seven were known as mail-boys and the others as mail-messen­ that is altogether too much, and I tru.'3t the House will think so too. gers. The distinction was this : one class of them ha.ve charge of I therefore move to strike out the words I haYe mentioned. the handling and the distribution of the mails in the office, and have Mr. DANFORD. I move to amend the amendment by striking out to come at an early hour in the morning to sort and distribute the in line 162" 1,800" and insertina " $1,400." mails; the others are the mail-carriers, . who take the packages The CHAiRMAN. The amenilinent is not germane. It has refer­ already done up in bundles and drive around in the mail-wagon to ence to another clause. The gentleman from Ohio can offer his amend­ deliver them at the houses of members. For years past there have ment after this has been disposed of. been two classes of duties, one requiring as we thought a higher class l\Ir. GARFIELD. I desire to say a word. The Committee on Ap­ of experience and intelligence than the other. It is tnm now and propriations called the Door-keeper Lefore them, and also bad the then a mail-boy does the work of the other, but their duties are dis­ advantage of the assistance of the chairman of the Committee on tinct. We thought ou the whole it would be better to bring the Accounts in regard to various classes of employes about the Honse. upper class down a little and the lower up a little, and the adjust­ The chairmap. of the Committee on Accounts informed us, as did also ment will reduce the total expense considerably. the Door-keeper, that the entire number of the force had been reduced Mr. SPEER. Let me say a word. If the information upon which to the amount, I think, of 25 per cent. since the beginning of the I have made my amendment is incorrect, I will, of course, withdraw present session, and that unless the franking privilege should be re­ the amendment. If, as the gentleman from Ohio suggests, there is a stored possibly a further reduction could be made; but if the frank­ difference in the labor performed, then, of course, my amendment ing privilege wa..s restored a large increase would be required, espe­ should not be adopted; but I am credibly informed there is not any cially in the folding department. The committee have reported such such difference in the duties-that the duties are interchangeable. an amount of force 3.'3 it seemed to them onder the circumstances, Mr. RICE. When I first departed from the recommendation of the after hearing both from the Door-keeper and from the chairman of the chairman of the committee in increasing the salaries of the Chief Committee on Accounts, was just and reasonable. Clerk and Journal clerk, I did it on the ground that it required an Mr. McKEE. How many has the Door-keeper in his department aptitude and a peculiar facility in doing that work, and that the ex­ nowf perience of these gentlemen had entitled them to a larger sum. And Mr. GARFIELD. I do not know exactly how many. when I voted to increase the salary of the assistant Journal clerk, I Mr. McKEE. The chairman of the Committee on Appropriations did it for the same reason, although I was loth to depart from the informs me that he does not know how many employes there are in recommendation of the chairman of the committee. Now, I hold the the Door-keeper's department. It appears to me that he ought to know amount of labor is not so much the question before the House as the that fact. amount of ability to perform a certain amount of labor. We all con­ Mr. GARFIELD. I do not know the numerical strength of the cede that superior abilities should receive higher pay. In this case, whole force. I did not know that it was of special importance that a the gentleman from Pennsylvania has just remarked, if the dis­ the committee should take a census of the entire force. tinction exists which bas been stated, then he is wrong in moving his Mr. M:.cKEE. Is it necessary that the Door-keeper should have one amendment. If of these men engaged in the post-office of the House hundred and thirty employes under his direction Y some are required to do more labor than others, and to sort and pre­ 1\:lr. GARFIELD. In reply to the gentleman I will state in the pare the mails for delivery, I think then those who do prepare the first place, in general terms, what employes the Door-keeper has in his mails for delivery are entitled to higher pay. department. He has first a cla.ss of messengers or door-keepers who Mr. SPEER's amendment to the amendment was rejected. attend ·the doors, although they are called messengers. There is no 1\Ir. GARFIELD'S amendment was agreed to. one door leadincr into this Hall, or into the galleries in the Hall, Mr. GARFIELD. I move in line 156 after the word "stenogra­ where it is not thought important to have at least one messenger; at phers" to insert the words "for committees;" so that it will read, "to the main doors there arc two, for it is necessary there to have more steno!Faphers for committees, $4,380 each." These are reporters for than one on account of the number of messages constantly sent in to commtttees of the Hou e, and it is necessary to distinguish them from members of the House and as a protection of the lobbies of the Honse the Official Reporters of the debates. from inva-sion from without. In the next place, the Door-keeper has The amendment was agreed to. under his charge the document-room. It ought not to be; it ought · Mr. HOLMAN. Is this sum, 4,380, the same compensationnowfixed to be a separate thing ; but he has that under his charge, and he fur­ for the Official Reporters of the debates' nishes a considerable number of employes in the document-room, :Mr. GARFIELD. It is the same fixed for these reporters of com­ who are on his roll and paid by him, and who have charge of our mitt ees. We have not felt authorized to change that sum. If any vast body of documents. gentleman of the House thinks it ought to be changed by making it In the next place, all the pages that we have here, and their num­ any other sum, we have no objection to offer. ber is considerable, are under the control of the Door-keeper and in Mr. HOLl\IAN. I think the salaries of these stenographers for com­ his employment. In the next place, all persons employed in the fold­ mittees certainly should not be higher than we give to the reporters ing of documents and speeches and everything that is print-ed by the of debates. authority of Congress, except documents that the Clerk sends out an­ Mr. RANDALL. I think the five Official Reporters of debates should nua1ly, are tmder the control of the Door-keeper; and finally, the have their salaries increased. . Door-keeper has charge of the laborers employed in the care of this l\Ir. HOLl\IAN. What is the salary fixed for the. regular reporters1 building throughout the entire wing of the Capitol which the House l\Ir. GARFIELD. Forty-two hundred dollars a year each. occupies. · :Mr. HOLMAN. I move that amendment; to strike out $4,300 and Mr. McKEE. Has he more in his employment now than he had insert $4,200. before Y Mr. SPEER. These stenographers for committees are paid by the Mr. GARFIELD. There has been a reduction of twenty-four since year, and I wish to ask the chairman of the committee whether there the session began. are not some sessions of Congress when there is but little work for The question being taken on Mr. McKEE's amendment, it was dis­ these stenographers to do; whether it does not depend on special in- agreed to. 3100 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD.· .APRIL 15,

1\h. DANFORD. I move to amend the paragraph, as follows: Mr. GARFIELD. It was ao-reed for convenience that each of these clauses should be considered as a separate paragraph. That was In line 162 strike out "$1,800 "and insert "$1,•100," so that it will read "five mes­ sengers at 1,400;" and in line 163 strike out " $1,440 " and insert "$1,240;" so agreed to by unanimous consent, and that agreement controls us. that it will read " six at 1, 240 each." l\lr. STORM. I understood the Chair to state that each clause re­ lating to an officer would be considered as a para.graph. I am aware that it is rather an ungracious thing to stand here and l\lr. GARFIELD. It was so n,greed, and that arrangement only prevent tho increase of salaries of the employes of this House who relates to the paragraph now under consideration down to the appro­ serve us so attentively, so faithfully, and so efficiently. But, :Hr. priations for the public printing. Chairman, we should not p:.ty these employes more th~ their services I made the proposition distinctly, that for the sake of convenience are reasonably worth; and I submit to any gentleman upon this floor and dispatch of busine s each one of these separate clauses should whether such a service as that required of this class of employes can­ be considered as a paragraph. . not be obtained in any district in this country for little more than one­ The CHAIRMAN. The Chair trusts that, as there seems to be a half the amount in the committee's bill; and whether we are justified, difference of opinion, the point of order will be withdrawn. If the Mr. Chairman, in paying for this class of service more than we can point of order be insisted upon, the Chair will be compelled to rule reasonably provide it for. While we have a Treasury with millions that, having submitted to the Committee of the Whole the proposi­ and hundreds of millions of dollars in it, I think we should take into tion that each clause be treated as a paragraph, and no objection account the fact that those who labor in this country, who produce its being made, the proposed amendment is not in order. wealth either in the field or in the workshop, are not receiving for .Mr. GARFIELD. At the request of the Chair I withdraw my point their work,.for t.hat kin(l of work that produces the wealth of this of order; but I give notice that I will insist upon it if another amend- country, anything like $1,400 or $1,800 per annum. The average ment of the kind is offered. ~ American laborer, the average clerk in this com1try, receives no such l\lr. FORT. I renew the point of order. compensation as we give to the employes of this Honse, and we shmuel The CHAIRMAN. The point of order being insisted upon, ·the take into account, sir, those who stand behind this Treasury, the farm­ Chair niles that the amendment is out of order. ers, the workmen, and the clerks who contribute their dollars and Mr. McKEE. I move to amend, by inserting after the clause just _their dimes to the payment of the employes of this House. I take it read the-following: that we can safely cut down the employesof this House one-half, and All employes of the Door-keeper's department shall be employed and discharged that we cal!l have just as good and as efficient service as we have now. by the Committee on Accounts. Gent.lemen say that we should pay the employes of the Honse here a. sufficient amount of money to enable them to bring their families l\lr. GARFIELD. I make the point of order that this is new legis­ here and reside at the capital. I take it that we should do no such lation, and therefore not in order. thing. There are many members of Congress upon this floor who lrfr. McKEE. This is just the place to put it in, by the rule. can afford to do no such thing; and I think that our true rule should l\1r. GARFIELD. It changes existing laws and empowers a com­ be to pay for this service what it is reasonably worth; and I take it mittee to re~ate the employment of persons, that committee being that what it is reasonably worth is that which it can be obtained for now authonzed only to settle the accounts. This amendment pro­ in the country. poses to make the committee the appointing power, taking that power The question was taken on Mr. DAli.TFORD'S amendment; and on a from the Door-keeper, where it is now lodged. · division there were--ayes 37, noes 38 ; no quorum voting. The CHAIRi\lli~. Is it lodged with the Door-keeper by virtue of Tellers were ordered; and Mr. HOLli1A1.~ and l\lr. GARFIELD were any clause of an appropriation bill or any other legislation t appointed. l\lr. GARFIELD. I do not know how that is. But this amendment The committee divided; and there were-ayes 47, noes 100. proposes to change the law as it now stands. So the amendment was not agreed to. ?tlr. McKEE. Where is that law f The Clerk read as follows : 1\lr. GARFIELD. It is incumbent upon the gentleman to show that Twelve messengers during; the session, (es~te cl a.t five months,) at the rate of he does not propose to change the law. It is well known by every­ $1,440 each per annum, $7,260. body here that the Door-keeper now appoints the force under him. 1\lr. FORT. By what law 'f Mr. WILLARD, of Vermont. I move to amend that clause by strik­ 1\fr. GARFIELD. Even if only by consent it is now the lawof cus­ ing out ''twelve" and inserting "eleven," for the purpose of asking tom. It is proposed to make a law which does not now exist, and to the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations a question. I de­ clothe a committee .of this Honse with appointing power. Nobody sire to inquire how much the force in tlie Door-keeper's department claims that that has ever been done, or that the;re is now any authority has been reduced by this bill f-rom what it was in January last'i of law for doing it. We are now a-sked to confer upon a committee Mr. GARFIELD. The committee understood from the chairman of of this Honse an authority which it is not pretended they have, and the Committee on Accounts that the entire ;force had been reduced certainly that is new legislation. 20 per cent., the reduction being twenty-two or twenty-three persons 'Mr. McKEE. It is a thing eminently proper to do,· and it should in all. That is what was represented to the committee, and I have have been done long ago. here the notes which I took at the time. Mr. GARFIELD. That is a qrie..~tion of the merits of the amend­ 1\fr. WILLARD, of Vermont. Does that decrease appear in the ment. I am making a point of order, not discussing the merits of the number of officers named in the bill, or was it ill the foldin~-room 'I amendment. 1\fr. GARFIELD. A portion of the appropriation for this branch l\lr. McKEE. I cannot find any law authorizing the Door-keeper to of the service is in a lump for the folding-room, an<,l the reduction is make these appointments. there. We have not cut out any of the officers who are specially ap­ The CHAIRMAN. Tho Chair rules that the point of order is well propriated for. The reduction is in the folding-room and the amount taken. appropriated for that purpose is rednced to the extent I have inti­ Mr. McKEE. Because it changes existing law, when there is no mated. law to be changed. f Mr. WILLARD, of Ve1w.ont. I desire to ask the gentleman a fur­ The CHAIRMAN. The Chair has ruled upon the point. The gen­ ther question. 1 understand that the force in the folding-room was tleman from .Mississippi [Mr. McKEE] suggests reasons for the ruling reuuced in January last and that a certain number of persons were of the Chair; they are the reasons of the gentleman from Mississippi. either discharged or suspended; but I understand also that instead of The Clerk resu:ned the reading of the bill, and read the following: stopping the pay of the persons suspended those actually retained had to divide their pay with them, so that the pay of those retained was For clerks of committees, et5,000. reunced by the amount paid to persons nominally discharged. Has 1\lr. BROMBERG. I move to amend the clause just read by strik­ the chairman any knowledge on that point 'I ing out $15,000 and inserting $25,000. I find by reference to a letter Mr. GARFIELD. No, I have not; but I suppose the chairman of of the Secretary of the Senate, Miscellaneous Document No.5, that the Committee on Accounts could inform the gentleman. the clerks of tlle committees of the Senate, except those to whom reg­ · Mr. WILLARD, of Vermont. I withdraw my amendment. ular salaries are given, receive $7.20 per day each, while the clerks of Mr. HOSKINS. I desire to renew my amendment in line 148, and the House receive only $4.80. Certainly the amount of work which a I propose now to make the salary of the Door-keeper $2,l::S92, instead clerk of a House committee is called upon to perform is at least equal of $3,000 as I proposed-before. to that performed by the clerk of a Senate committee. I always try Mr. GARFIELD. I make the point of order that the amendment to act reasonably and justly. I should like to know some reason why proposes to go back, and is not in order. the clerk of a House committee should not be paid the same salary a.g l\11·. HOSKINS. The amendment I now offer proposes to increase the clerk of a Senate committee, as he does at least the same amount the salary of tile Door-keeper $ZOO only, so as to make it $2,892 a year. of work. Mr. GARFIELD. I insist on the point of order that we cannot go Mr. PLATT, of Virginia. I rise to support the amendment. back. The ()HAIRl\fAN. The gentleman is not in order, one speech upon 1\fr. RANDALL. This is not going back; the amendment relates that· side having been made. to a part of the pharagraph which is under coUBideration. Mr. MYERS. I desire, Mr. Chairman-- .., Mr. GARFIELD. It was agreed that each of these clauses re­ Mr. BROMBERG. I have not occupied all of my five minutes, and lating to an officer or cla-ss of officers should be considered as a para­ I yield the remainder of my time to the gentleman from. Virginia. graph. 1\lr. PLATT, of Virginia. I will decline to avail myself of the Mr. HOSKINS. The whole paragraph relates to t):te salaries of dif­ kindness of the gentleman from Alabama, [1\lr. BROMBERG,] but will ferent officers of the Honse, and I submit that amendments to it are take the floor in my own right after a speech in opposition to this in order as long as that subject is before the committee. amendment has been made. 1874. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. 3101

Mr. MYERS. I move to amend the amendment so as to make it part of the bilJ, so that this appropriation of $50,000 as here proposed, $20,000 instead of $25,000. As the gentleman from Alabama [Mr. or $30,000 as I move to make it, covers only the labor and material. BROMBERG] has already said, I find that the amount allowed to clerks Formerly it was the practice, I believe, that personi designated in of Senate committees is $25,000, and the amount proposed here to the this bill as messengers, who are really assistant doO'a.'-keepers, were clerks of committees of the House is $15,000. I should like to know at work in the folding-room durinl? the recess of Congress or some from the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations [MT. GAR-: portion of it; but latterly that practice ha-s been abandoneu, i' am told, FIELD) why there should be this discrepancy. There are almost as and these messengers, or assistant door-keepers, ar13 no·wnot kept here many clerks of committees in the House as in the Senate. during the summer months. Some are paid only elUTing the session, Severalli-IE~fBERS. There are more of them. and some are paid by the year; but whether paid by the session or Mr. MYERS. No; there are not more, but there are nearly as many. by t.he year they go away during the recess, and the work done in the Some clerks of the House are paid by fixed salaries. I should like to folding-room is done by laborers employed for that purpose. have some explanation by the chairman of the committee why $10,000 No special political campaign will be pending the coming fall, no more should be appropriated fo1· the Senate clerks than for the House presidential campaign; and so there is no necessity for a large force clerks. in the folding-room to fold documents for distribution for political My friend from Massachusetts, [Mr. DAWES,] the chairman of the purposes. Besides, the franking privilege has been abolished ; and Committee on Ways and Means, sug~ests that it takes more to pay the House, after deliberate consideration, has decided that it shall not them. I believe we have only a few less clerks here than in the Sen­ be revived except so far as the country newspapers are concerned, ate; and I offeT the amendment because I want to allow more to the and those are not folded here. No documents have yet l>een ordered clerks of the House. There is no reason whatever for the discrepancy. to be printed by both Houses of Congress at this session. Eal'ly in OUT clerksdoas much laborasthosein the Senate; theydoasfaithful the session the House a.O.opted a resolution for printing the Agricul­ service, working frequently when the Senate adjourns over. I desire tural Report for two years; but the Senate (if I may be allowed to some explanation which may guide my vote. refer to that august body without violating parliamentary rule) has Mr. GARFIELD. A few words in answer to the gentleman from not yet agreed to that propoEition; and I trust it will not do so. In Pennsylvania, [~ir. MYERS.] It has been the custom for many years to this view of the case it seems to me that $30,000 is an abundantly allow questions as to committee clerks and other matters relating to large appropriation for this purpose, and that the Committee on Ac· the special service of each branch to be detem'lined by the branch counts, or what-ever committee may have t his matter in charge, should itself. This year, however, as on one or two previous occasions, the have some direction from the House as to the force that shall be kept Committee on Appropriations objected to the inequality of the sala­ here during the rece8s to work in the folding-room. I'ies paid in the two Houses; and in this matt~r of committee clerks Mr. SOUTHARD. Since the abolition of the franking privilege, I have been instructed by the Committee on Appropriations, when­ and the failure to authorize the publication of these public docu­ ever the Committee of the Whole will permit ine to go back, to offer ments hitherto distributed, what necessity is there for even the appro· an amendment to the clause relating to committee clerks of the Sen­ priation of these $30,000 f. ate, so a.s to provide that no higher amount shall be paid to the clerks 1\h'. WILLARD, of VeTmont. I must confess, Mr. Chairman, I am provided for in the contingent fund than the rate allowed in the quite ignorant on this point. I do not know t.here is any necessity House. This will settle the whole que tion. We have cp. t down very for that appropriation, but I understand it takes about $15,000 for the la~·gely the amount asked for in the appropriation for Senate clerks. purpose of attending to and folding the documents printed as a mat. The Senate askecl for contingent expenses1 including clerks of com­ ter of course. We order printed every document that comeli to Con­ mittees, $65,000. We cut down the appropriation to $31,000; and we gress, and when we· order them printed, some sixteen hundred copies of have reduced the amount for the House from over $20,000 to 15,000. each are printed as a matter of course. Therefore a certain number of If the committee will now allow the amendment which I have been these docum~nts, one for each member, is folded under the direction of instructed to offer, to be inserted in connection with the appropriation the Clerk of t.he House, and the expense of that is included in this ap­ for clerks of Senate committees, I will present it. propriation. I understand it has been customary to appropriate for !lir. MYERS. I object. the House about $15,000 for that purpose. 'I'hen there will be about Mr. GARFIELD. If the gentleman who is so anxious to have the $15,()()0 left for the other pUTpose. I confess, as I have alteady said, pay of committee clerks in the two branches equalized objects, then I did not understand ~hywe should mak~ an appropriatio~ o~ $15,0~~~ I cannot present the amendment. but perhaps the chauman of the Comnuttee on Appropnat10ns Will Mr. MYERS. I am anxious to increase the pay of our own clerks. be able to tell us. ltir. PLATT, of Virginia. I hope the amendment offered by the gen­ Mr. SOUTHARD. I understand this is intended to cover certain doc­ tleman from Pennsylvania [M:r. MYERS] will prevail rather than uments printed as a matter of course. The appropriation wa-s $100,000 that of the gentleman from Alabama, [Mr. BROMBERG,] because I last year. Is it understood, then, as a matter of fact, one-third has been desire merely that enough money shall be appropriated to equalize done this year of the work wh1ch was done la-st year, when an enor­ the pay of the clerks of the House and those of the Senate. As to mous number of speeches and documents was circulated through the the amendment which the chairman of the Committee on Appropria­ mails under the franking privilege f tions [1h. GARFIELD] informs us he will offer, I wish to su.y that such Mr. RANDALL. I move an amendment to the amendment of the an amenclmentwas offered when the paragraph wa-s under considera­ gentleman from Vermont so as to make it $25,000. I have examined tion by the Committee of the "\Vhole; that an amendment cutting this subject carefully, and I am convinced that is enough. down the amount appropriated as compensation for clerks of the Sen­ As a member of the Post-Office Committee I think I can say th ·e ate committees was rejected. is no probability whatever, even ii this House should reinangurate Mr. GARFIELD. The gentleman is mistaken. the franking privilege, that it can by no possibility pass the Senate Mr. PLATT, of Virginia. Now, sir, there are thirty-one of these during this session of Congress. That then brings us down to the clerks in the Senate and twenty-seven in the House. Although we expenditu.re of this money during a period of tluee months next year, have many more committees than the Senate, yet we have u. smaller that is to say from the first Monday in December, when the second number of clerks. I assert without fear of contmcliction that the session of this Congress assembles, to the 4th of March following. It committee clerks of the Honse do as much and more work tha.n seems to me, therefore, $2-'l,OOO is entirely sufficient. the committee clerks of the Senate, with very few exceptions. I see It has been the habit heretofore of employing boy~ to fold speeches no reason for this discrimination against the committee clerks of this and documents. I am now informed (and if I am iucorrect in my House; for I desire to call attention to the fact that in this entire statement I am open to correction) t.ha.t the uuty which bas been appropriation bill this is, I believe, the only ca.se of equality in the pay heretofore performed by these boys is now being done by those who of employes of t.he two Houses. ·. are upon the roll of the Door-keeper, and who really have no other The que8tion being taken on Mr. MYERs's amendment to the amend­ duty to perform. Not having any other duty to perform, they have ment of Mr. BROMBERG, it was not agreed to; there being-ayes 17, been assigned, some of them, to this duty. We have provided for noes not counted. the payment of these persons, therefore, who have taken the plac,.• The question recnTring on the amendment of Mr. BROMBERG, it was heretofore held by the boys of the folding-room. There is really np not agreed to. occasion therefore, in my judgment, to make this appropriation larger The Clerk rea.d as follows : than $25,000. For foluing documents, including pt~y of folders in the folding-rooms and mate­ 1\Ir. GARFIELD. Mr. Chairman, I should say it would be a wise rials, $50.000. thing to .have only one folding-room for the House. I believe the 1tir. WILLARD, of Vermont. I move to amend the c1ause just read gentleman from Maine [Mr. HALE] bas thawn an amendment which by striking out "50" and inserting" 30," so as to make the am01mt of when in ordeT I hope may be offered, as it proposes to consolidate the appropriation $30,000. I am not sufficiently advisecl to know these folding-rooms into one. whetherthelattersummay not be too large. I understand, however, M.r. RANDALL. I agree to withdraw my amendment for the pres­ that we hav~ substantiu.lly two folding-rooms. In one of these, under ent in order that the gentleman may have an opportunity to offer that the charge of the Clerk of the House, the documents that are bound for amemlment. the use of members are folded and taken care of, to be delivered to Mr. GARFIELD. I wish to say a word in rega:rcl to the amount of the members. Then there is the folding-room below stairs where the these a.ppropriations. Out of the sum here appropriated is paid the documents that haYe hitherto been folded for distribution are taken sala.ry of those persons who are in the foldiug-room of the Clerk as in charge. The appropriation last year for the folding-room was well as in the folding-room of t.he Door-keeper. They hu.ve had hitherto, $100,000, which included, I suppose, the appropriation for material and and for u. series of years, $100,000, which sometimes even has been for labor. The superintendent, the assistant superintendent, and some found insufficient. The committee after careful consideration thougl1 t other officefl! and employes of this room are provided for in another they could reduce it, in view of the abolition of the franking privl- 3102 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. .APRIL 15,

lege, to $50,000. I doubt whether a lower reduction would be safe in 1\fr. McKEE. What has become of the point of orderf view of the fact that the Clerk of the House is required by law to send The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Maine has offered an amend- off the complete sets of statutes and documents which make really ment which the Chair has ruled to be in order. (1uite a larue libracy every year. He is required not only to send them Mr. HALE. I desire to speak five minutes to the amendment. to every m~mber of Congress, sending to each member's home a-ddress, Mr. BURCHARD rose. but to the governors of States and to the governors of Territories. In The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Illinois [Mr. BURcHARD ) all they make a large bulk of documents. He attends to folding, send­ has rai ed a point of order, and the Chair will yield the :floor to th(l ina off, and purchasing the material for folding, and must keep uv a gentleman if he desires further to discuss his point or to appeal from ro~m for that purpose. If we consolidate the two in accordance With the decision of the Chair. the amendment of my colleague on the Committee on Appropriations, l\1r. BURCHARD. I have not yet presented my point of order. I it will probably be as wise a thing as we can do. wish to know if I am in time to make the point of order. Mr. WILLARD, of Vermont. I hold in n;tyhan~ :;tn appropt:iation Mr. W .ARD, of Illinois. I submit that a point of order cannot be bill for 1866; and that waa when the ~a~kifi:g pnvilege was m ex­ debated until it is presented. istence, when documents were folded mdiscrumnatelyJ_as they were Mr. BURCHARD. The point of order I make is not in regard to recently; and the appropriation for that year was $30,uu0. the substitution of one amendment for the other. My point of order The CHAIRMAN. Debate is exhausted on this amendment. is on the amendment itself, that it proposes new legislation and Mr. RANDALL. I wish to say to the gentleman from Vermont changes existing law. that during the existence of the franking privilege I ~ave sent off The CHAIRMAN. The Chair has ruled that the amendment is fifteen thousand speeches and documents a year, but sn;tce the abo­ properly before the committee and the gentleman from Maine is lition of the franking privilege I have not been able to send off more entitled to the floor. • than a tithe of that number. It is not reasonable, therefore, the ap­ 1\Ir. McKEE. Does the Chair overrule the point of orderf propriation should be kept up at the former figures. I now wi tbdraw The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Maine is entitled to the my amendment, so as to en.tble the gentleman from Maine to offer :floor. his amendment. Mr. McKEE. Mr. Chairman, I have a right to ask if the Chair has Mr. HALE, of Maine. I offer the amendment which I send to the overruled the point of order. desk. The CHAIRMAN. l!'or the fourth time the Chair will endeavor to The Clerk read as follows : state that he has overruled the point of order. In line 177, after the word "dollars," add the following: 1\Ir. McKEE. But I understood the Chair to refuse to hear it, be­ Provided That after the 30th of June, 1874, all the folding of the House shall be cause it was not made in time. done through the Clerk of the House, and the two folding-rooms now existing shall The CHAIRMAN. The Chair re~ets the misunderstanding. be united under that officer. Mr. GARFIELD. I raise the pomt of order that it is not in order Mr. HALE, of Maine. That is not strictly an amendment to the to discuss what has been decided by the Chair. amendment of the gentleman from Vermont, [Mr. WILLARD,] .and I The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Maine is entitled to the ask him to withdraw his amendment for the time being and allow a floor, unless the gentleman from Mississippi appeals from the decision vote t.o be taken on this, after which he can renew his amendment. of the Chair. [After a pause.] The gentleman from Mississippi Mr. WILLARD, of Vermont. I have no objection to that. does not appeal, and the gentleman from Maine will proceed. The CHAIRMAN. If there be no objection the gentleman from Mr. HALE, of Maine. I do not knowwhythere should be so much Vermont [Mr. WILLARD] will be permitted to withdraw his. amend­ antagonism to this proposition. It is offered in good faith,. and if ment for the present in order that the gentleman from Mame [Mr. adopted I am satisfied that the business of the House in regard to HALE] may offer the amendment which haa been read. the folding of documents will be more satisfactorily performed than There was no objection. . now. There is nothing gained in having two folding-rooms. And so The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Maine [Mr. HALE] is enti­ far from this being any change in legislation, let me state to gentle­ tled to the floor. men that there is no law so far as I unuerstand it for the present Mr. DUNNELL. I wish to aak the gentleman from Maino a ques­ division of this labor. It has grown up and become sanctioned to tion. some extent by usage, but there is certainly no good reason why there Mr. BURCHARD. I have risen to make a point of order on the should be two foldin0'-rooms . amendment. . The Clerk of the Honse seems to me, without casting any reflec­ Mr. McKEE. I rose also for the same purpose. I make the point tion on any officer, to be the proper officer to have charge of this duty. of order that this amendment is new le~islation. · And by this amendment he will have the entire charge of the foldinfiu Mr. HALE, of Maine. If I am perm1tted I will make a statement of the documents which the House orders to be printed. This wi in regard to what the law now is, which I think will dispose of the be concentrated under one officer. point of order. · If there be any question of patronage that troubles gentlemen, any The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Mis.'3issippi [Mr. McKEE] question of getting men into these pla-ces, according as one officer or raises the poiut of order that this is new legislation. The Chair will another shall have the control, that is not a question that troubles stat.e that the gentleman from l\faine [Mr. HALE J asked the gentleman me. I have not anybody in the folding-room, I do not expect to have from Vermont [Mr. WILLARD] to withdraw his amendment so that anybody, and I do not want to have anybody there. But let it be he, the gentlemu,n from Maine, might offer :1n amendment. That under the control of one man. If the question of patronage is to amendment had been read and was known to the committee. The come in, and if employ~s are to be taken from the various sections of Chair asked the committee if consent was given. The committee the country in such a way that all shall be fairly represented, one gave consent. .At that moment and before such consent the point man will do it better than two. But primarily the work will be should have been raised. The amendment of the gentleman from better done under the charge of one man than it is done now. Maine is, in the judgment of the Chair, properly before tht) committee. Now as to the amount. The committee looked into it carefully, and Mr. BURCHARD. The proposition of the gentleman from Maine made a large reduction from last year. I am, for one, by no means was to present his amendment as a substitute for the amendment of certain but that $25,000 or even 20,000 might suffice ; but there is the gentleman from Vermont then before the committee. · It was only nothing gained by putting in an appropriation so small that next when that waa done and the amendment of the. gentleman from year a deficiency will have to be provided for. Gentlemen have made Maine came before the committee that the point of order would ap­ that point; the gentleman from Kentucky, [Mr. BECK,] now in my ply, if at all. It would have been premature to have submitted the eye, has repeatedly made it upon this bill and other bills. Where point of order before the Chair stated that the substitution had been there is danger of its resulting in that way that is a geod point. I made; and it was at that time that the gentleman from Mississippi believe $30,000 at any rate to be ample ; and if the work be placed as well as myself rose tO make the point of order. under the control of one man, that sum will go further than what we The CHAIRMAN. The Chair regrets that neither of the gentlemen have before appropriated for the larger work. succeeded in getting the point of order ma-de at the time they de­ Mr. DUNNELL. I rise to oppose the amendment. I cannot my­ sired. self see how it will cost any more to fold these documents as they are 1\fr. McKEE. I submit that the amendment has not been debated. now folded than it will if we have it done under the direction of The gentleman from Maine who ofters it is the only one who could one man. The same rooms will have to be occupied, the same num­ have discussed it. That gentleman has not said a. word about the ber of men employed, the same amount of material purchased. I amendment. I submit that we could not ·have mad~ the point of fail to see where the saving can come in. The folding that is done order more quickly than it bas been made. under the supervision of the Clerk is of a different cla-ss altogether from l\1r. BURCHARD. I desire to state that when the Chair stated that the folding that is done under the direction of the Door-keeper, and the amendment of the gentleman from Vermont was withdrawn, and under the supervision of the Clerk the same rooms will be occupied, that the amendment of the gentleman from Maine was before the the same amount of force reqUired, and the same amount o£ materials committee, I at once 1·ose. The gentleman from Minnesota [Mr. DuN­ used. The gentleman from Maille has failed to satisfy rue that there NELL] rose at the same time to auuress a question to the gentleman will be a single dollar saved. If the argument of the gentleman is from Maine. I interrupted the gentleman from Minnesota, and he good that one man should have this matter wholly in charge then, I yielded the floor to me to make the point of order, and the gentleman think, wesbouldstrikeouttheword "Clerk," andinsert"Door-keepcr." from Mississippi also rose for the same purpose. Hence I think the I think it is entirely out of place to take this work away from the point of order was made in time. Door-keeper and give it to the Clerk. There are members upon this The CHAIRMAN. The Chair bas a-dmitted the amendment. The floor, members of the Committee on Appropriations, who know th:tt gentleman from Maine is entitled to the floor. this change ought not to take place. I am unwilling to augment the 1874. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. 3103 power of the Clerk of this House. This power is better lodged where must be aware that the Forty-second Congress closed its session on It is, and I hope the amendment of the gentleman from Maine will the 4th of March of last year. From the 4th day of March, 1873, to not prevail. I am sure nothing will be saved by it, and I move to the day of the meeting of the Forty-third Congress there was no one amend his amendment by striking out the word "Clerk" and inserting who had any control of the employes in the folding-room but the "Door-keeper." Door-keeper of the House of Representatives. There was no Com­ Mr. McKEE. I rise to support the amendment of the gentleman mittee on Accounts, no committee of any kind; for the House was not from Maine, although I do not believe it is at all in order, and I will organized. briefly state the reasons why I support it. The ~entleman from Min­ The CHAIRMAN. Debate upon the pending amendme:Q.t is ex­ nesota says that this power of patronage is nghtly lodged in the hausted. The first question is upon the amendment of the gentleman Door-keeper. That, sh, I do not believe. I have sought here time from Minnesota, [Mr. D tTh'NELL,] to substitute "Door-keeper" for and again to get information as to the Door-keeper's patronage here, "Clerk" in the amendment of the gentleman from Maine, [1\Ir. and it has always been refused. I believe there are one hundred and HALE.] thirty men employed in the Door-keeper's department, and there is a Mr. DUNNELL. I will withdraw my amendment to the amend­ kind of ring here by which that patronage is dispensed at the com­ ment if the gentleman from lllinois, [Mr. BURCHARD,] who desires mencement of each Congress. I am satisfied that we have more folders to speak, will renew it. than we need. I believe we do not need half of them. There are The CHAIRMAN. That requires unanin10us consent. surplus places there where they put men in for certain purposes. I No objection was made, and the amendment to the amendment was am not particnJarly interested in this matter. ·we of the South have withdrawn. no patronage here; it is all given to New York and Pennsylvania Mr. BURCHARD. I renew the amendment to the amendment. If We get no share of the patronage, and so are disinterested parties. this proposition is presented by the Committee on Appropriations in I believe in dividing up the patronage. I believe t.ha.t a committee the interest of economy, I do not wish to antagonize it so far as the of this Honse should appoint these men; but the Chair has ruled that reduction of the amount is concerned. But the argnment that has an amendment of that nature would not be in order, because it would been made in favor uf it does not appeal to me as a sufficient reason be new legislation, although he holds that it is not new legislation for supporting' it. to provide that the Clerk shall have the control of this matter. In this very appropriation bill there is a recommendation that we Now, sh, I wish to see these matters thoroughly investigated. If appropriate $240,000 for the Department of Agriculture ; I believe there is to be any such thing as fail' dealing all around the House all that is the amount. We propose, therefore, to keep up that Depart­ its departments should be investigated, and the patronage ought to ment. As has been stated, by the order of the House the usual num­ be cut down. It has grown to its present dimensions simply for the ber, or sixteen hundred copies of the Agricultural Report, will be purpose of making places for men, and not because of any public printed for the use of members and of a few other privileged persons. necessity for it. The patronage of the Door-keepe1Js department has I for one believe that instead of printing that number of copies of grown until it includes one hundred and thirty employes. I do not that document at an expense of $100 each, if we are to keep up the know how many the Clerk of the Hou e has ; but I will warrant you Agricultural Department we should print a proper number; and if there are two or three tinles too many for the work required to be we cannot send them free through he mails, if the Government is done. I hope the amendment of the gentleman from Maine will pre­ not willing that they should be so sent, then there should be some vail; first, because it looks to economy; and, in the second place, provision of law or appropriation made by which they can be sent to because it looks to a division of the spoils. ihe people. Hence I believe it is necessary that that document Mr. BECK. I rise only to say a word. I am in the same happy should be printed, and that there should be a proper and necessary condition, and so are all gentlemen on this side of the House, as the appropriation for the folding of that and other docnm.unts. gentleman from Mississippi, [Mr. McKEE.] We have no interest in Now, if the Committee on Appropriations will say that they think t.his patronage. that work can be done for less than $50,000, I am willing to vote for Mr. BUTLER, of-Tennessee. You have not had a man turned out. a less sum. But I will not vote for 30,000, or for even $15,000, merely Mr. BECK. Not a man. I J.o not believe that Kentucky has a to enable the Clerk to take charge of these documents, and fold them man employed around this Capitol, or in any of the Departments in for the benefit of members and a few other privileged persons. As to W asbington ; if she has I do not know it. the question of who should have charge of this work, it having been Mr. McKEE. We will divide what we have 'vith you, and give from time immemorial in the charge of the Door-keeper of the House, you half. he having charge of the folding-room and documents, I see no reason Mr. BECK. I rose to ask a question of the gentleman from Maine. for changing it, and therefore I shall vote against that proposition. Last year we appropriated '100,000 for the folding-room. The frank­ Mr. RAINEY. I desire to make a correction for the information of ing privilege expired on the 1st of July, and therefore we have the the gentleman from Kentucky, [.Mr. BECK.] He says that there is no full benefit this year of whatever saving we may obtain in the public one employed in or around this Capitol from the State of Kentucky. printing. We have this session ordered no Agricultural Reports to be I desire to assure him that there is a man from the State of Kentucky printed, ani!. they caused th great bulk of the expense of printing. in the employment of the Government here as a policeman. I give Certainly fewer speeches have been circulated than usual since we him that piece of information so that he may know that Kentucky is have had to pay postage on them ourselves. I desire to know if the represented among the employes about this Capitol. Committee on Appropriations are able to pre ent to the House an One other word. I am opposed to the amendment of the gentleman account of the expend.ttures of t·he folding-room for the current fiscal from Maine, [.Mr. HALE,] and do not think it ought to be adopted. year, and tell us whether the 100,000 has all been used, and, if so, how We elected and re-elected t.he present Door-keeper of the House be­ it has been used f cause we had confidence in him and believed he would discharge the The CHAIRMAN. The Chair thinks debate is exhausted on the duties pertaining to his office faithfully and satisfactorily. I do not pending amendment. think we would now, in any factious spirit of opposition to him, by Mr. BECK. The question I have asked might be answered; I have adopting any amendment, "take out of his hands t,be duties we have only spoken two minutes, and I was entitled to five. I yield to the hitherto confided to him and give them to a.ny other officer of the gentleman from Maine [.Mr. HALE] t.o answer my question. Honse. I believe in dealing fairly with every officer of t.his House. Mr. HALE, of :Majne. If the Chah will allow me, I will say, in I have no special favor to ask of the Door-keeper ; and I do not know reply to the gentleman from Kentucky, [Mr. BECK,] that the Com­ that he has ever conferred any special favor on me as a Representa­ mittee on Appropriations wafl exercised on this vel'Y question. Be­ tive; but I think it is due to him that he should be recognized in the lieving that there ought to be a surplus, we bad an examination made; capacity in which we have elected bim,andshonld be allowed to con­ and I will say here, what I did not say before, not being impelled by tinue the control of the officers now under his charge; that the con­ a direct question, that I for one believe, in view of the fact that the trol of these should not be transferred to the Cle1·k of the House. I franking privilege has been abolished, that during the last months of object, therefore, to the amendment of the gentleman from Maine. I the last vacation and during the months of December and January, simply wa.nted to give this little piece of information to the gentle­ many more men were kept in the folding-room than were needed. man from Kentucky. But we found it almost impossible t.o get these men discharged; and Mr. BURCHARD. I withdraw the amendment to the amendment. that is one reason why I believe in changing the conduct of the mat­ Mr. MYERS. I renew it. I "believe it is generally known that the ter here. I cannot tell the exact figures, for I do not have them here; Clerk of the House hails from the State of Pennsylvania. I do not but my recollection is that the showing is that the funil was ab­ think he asks this additional bmden, and no Pennsyh·anian, so far ns sorbed, though I do not make that as an accurate statement. But we I know, asks it on his behalf. I wish to say further that although I do believe t.hat there were too many men kept in the folding-room. have been here a good many years, there is no one at present in, the Mr. BECK. What was the difficulty in discharging them f employ of the Door-keeper upon my recommendation, though at one Mr. HALE, of 1\faine. I cannot tell. time I had one lad in his employ. Therefore, in advocating that this Mr. BUTLER, o:f Tennessee. I will tell the gentleman from Ken­ service may still be rendered under the direction of the Door-keeper tucky [1\fr. BECK] that they were kept there because of representa­ of the House, I can have no object in the shape of patronage. ·. tions made by members to the Door-keeper that they should be re­ Now we should legisla,te here with some object in view. " That is tained. And the State of Maine hafl as many men there as any other the object of this amendment¥ It. is certainly not in the interest of State has. economy, because the cost is the same one way or the other. But the Mr. BECK. Does the gentleman from Maine [Mr. HALE] think amendment is to be followed up, (aud that is the only reason I now that $::l0,000 will be enough for next year t address the committee,) it is to l>e iollowed up, as intimated by the Mr. HALE, of Maine. . I do. . gentleman from Maine [Mr. HALE] a~ul the gentleman from Ver­ Mr. BUF.FINTON. The gentleman from Kentucky [Mr. BECK] mont., [Mr. WILLARD,] Ly an amendment reducing this appropria- 3104 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. APRIL 15, tion from $50,000 to $30,000. Now, whll.~ - ltave the Committee on not know that will make much difference, because I was not long in A:npropriations been doing all these mon~hs f _Th~y have heard evi­ discovering while we make most tremendous professions here in the dence on the various matters connected With th1s bill, and they come way of economy we do not perform worth a cent. here expecting us to follow them. In the interest of economy, be­ The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman's time has expired. cause we are not printin~ so many books as formerly and do not need Several MEMBERS. Go on. so large a force in the tolding-room, the Committee on Appropria­ Mr. WARD, of Illinois. This morning I insisted on a division, and i ions has reduced this appropriation from $100,000 to "'501000. Do I pressed it even at the risk of being consid~red a little foolish, per­ they mean that cr do they notf The gentleman from :Maine, [..Mr. haps; but I did desire to see whether the men who are employed in HALE,] a member of the committee, wh<;> com~s in h~re 'Yith a diff~rent service here would be declared to be worth infinitely more than men view from that expressed by the coiDDllttee rn therr bill, and famtly anywhere else in the country. I can go into my city and find just advocated by the chairman, [:Mr. GARFIELD,] is willing to reduce the as good men as are employed in clerkships here-just as good a-s are appropriation to $30,000. Now, the committee mllSt have reported employed in any place about this HollSe of Representatives, and get thi.s provision for $50,000 either upon some state of facts or upon them for 50 per cent. less than you pay them here. But yon cannot none. I take it the committee has sufficiently reduced the amount; go to my city and ~et a man to take a similar position there at the that if gentlemen wish to vote in the interest of economy, they go salary I am now comrng here for. We have to work for no honor and far enough in that direction by voting for this reduction of 50,000. get no pay. And let me say that thou~h we appropriate $50,000, it is_not neces­ Mr. LA!\.fPORT. Let me ask the gentleman from Illinois whether sary that that amount shall be expended. If we shall order books the men in his city to whom he refers are the men who cried out for printeu, as I know we shall, aa we are contemplating in this very bill, we " bread or bloodY" shall need these folders ; and we want men to be paid for what they Mr. WARD, of Illinois. I do not see the point of the gentleman's do. If we do not order books printed, there may be no neces ity for question. My constipuents are willing to work, the people where I expending this whole appropriation of $50,000. I say, therefore, that live are willing to work, for less pay than these men who are employed if the Committee on Appropri~tions have examined this subject and about this Capitol. I protest, I protest in the name of the very men come to the conclusion expre eu in the bill, they should stand by he speaks of here as crying for "bread or blood" in my city. But of their bill if they expect members of the House to stand by it. course there was no 2uch cry; that is all in my eye. Mr. RANDALL. I rise to oppose the amendment pro form,a,. So far Mr. LAMPORT. It was so reported in the papers. as I can understand, this amendment comes in here with the approval of Mr. WARD, of Illinois. I say I protest in their name against this the Committee on Appropriations, and without any protest whatever, discrimination here. There is no discrimination in our favor. The so far as I have been able to learn, from the Committee on Accounts. members on this floor do not get any pay above the average of men His in the direction of economy. The gentleman from Maine tells u.s employed in the cities and towns from which they come. I protest that if his amendment be adopted we can then well afford to reduce against the discrimination in favor of the employes of this House the appropriation from 50,000 to 30,000. I hope, therefore, the and against those employed in important services elsewhere. I pro­ House will sustain the Committee on Appropriations in the direction test against being asked to vote for a bill making appropliatiou.s in of economy. reference to which charges have been made by mypolitical opponents 1\fr. WARD, of Illinoi's. I aak the gentleman from Pennsylvania that there are em braced m them t.hings which are all wrong; and until rMr. MYERS] to withdraw his amendment, that l may renew it. the chairman and the members of the Committee on Appropriations Mr. 11-fYERS. I withdraw the amendment. agree among themselves to point out the existing necessity for these Mr. WARD, of Illinois. I renew it. I desire to say a word or two appropriations, and as to the number of these employes and the in reference to this whole legislation. To my mind it is the most un­ amount to be paid, I shall vote against them. · satisfactory legislation in which I ever had any. part. The confusion Mr. GARFIELD. I sympathize deeply with my friends in the grows" worse confounded" every moment. The astonishing statement West, but I do not know there is balm in any Gilead for them. The was made a moment ago by a member of the Committee on Appropria­ Committee on Appropriations have had no divisions on this point, nor tions that a large percent.age of employes about this Capitol were kept have I seen any sign of any division on the general question. That here unemployed during the la~t recess. We are now asked by the committee brought in the bill, and as far as we have gone have reduced committee to make an appropriation of ·50,000, upon which the com­ appropriations. The appropriation for the employes of our own mittee itself does not seem to be united. Statements have been made House has been cut down. We have taken from our own salaries repeatedly by men who ought to know that the appropriation is $750,000. That has been already passed. To-day by an overwhelm­ much greater than it ought to be. Under such circumstances, :Mr. ing vow we have cut off, if the bill should become a law, 130,000 in Chairman, how can innocent gentlemen like myself, who are trying the way of mileage. In addition we have just now on the whole sub­ to do right, decide how to vote¥ ject of the employes of this House, other than the members, made a ChaTges are made (and I begin 'to think there is some basis for reduction of $t47,170 less than the sa,me officers received last year, them) that there has been improper management in reference to the and less by $183,193 than the estimate for this year. Still the gen­ employes about this House. I look into this bill and I find that the tleman is not happy ; still the gentleman thinks there is trouble in salaries paid to employes about t.his Capitol are higher than the com­ the camp and difficulty in the Committee on Appropriations. pensation for like services anywhere else on this broad continent; On the very subject now before the committee on which the Hou.se and there seem to be more of these employes than there can be any and the Senate ha.ve appropriated $100,000 a year for the la-st three ne.ces ity for. Questions and appeals are addressed to the committee years the Committee on Appropriations have gone over it carefully that reported the bill, and they are divided. In such a division, and cut it down to$50,000 instead of $100,000 andhaverecommended where, 0 where shall those go who desire to do exactlY. right on no other sum, except one member of the committee who thought it this question t Whom shall they follow f If that were a" parliament­ possible we might not need all that. We thought it was wiser to ary inquiry" I would put it to you, :Mr. Chairman, and I know you appropliate enough against uncertain contingencies and as to what would help me. I cannot understand the reasoning adopted upon amount of printing would be ordered, rather than be compelled to these matters here. To the minu of an ordinary man it is incompre­ bring in a deficiency bill hereafter. · hensible how even $10,000 can be necessary for folding the few docu­ T.I.Lat is all there is about the merits of the vote. The question of ments that we expect to send off during the next year. Gentlemen consolidating the two organizations of folding-rooms into one is a very tell ns that for the llSe of the Hou.se sixteen hundred of all our docu­ plain business proposition. The committee, as a committee, did not ments are printed; but there are not fifty documents like the Agri­ make it, for the simple reason that it would have been ruled out of or­ cultural Report; and bow much apiece would it cost to fold them der if the point of order was made on it. But we saw that the spirit if we make the appropriat.ion here proposed~ of the Committee of the Whole was in favor of something like that, Now, this Committee on Appropriations, bofore it geta the vote of and my colleague on the committee, the gentleman from Maine, very a single man upon this floor for any of these approp1·iations-and it properly offered a proposition to consolidate. We do not care whether will cerlainly not get mine until I have ample information, and I am the consolidation is under r.he Door-keeper or under the Clerk. But making these observations now for the purpose of eliciting that in­ to have it under one head instead of two is wise and economical. I formation-! say that this committee ou•rht not to get a single vote hope we shall have a vote in favor of the consolillation. for any one of these propositions, and will not get mine, until they Mr. ·wARD, of Illinois. In saying "we have reduced our own S[Ll­ show the existinO" necessity for each one of them, and that they have aries and cut off the mileage," does the gentleman mean to say "we,u reduced the num~er of employes and the amount of appropriation to the Committee on Appropriations, in this bill t the lowest point and reduced the salaries to the lowest figure. I voted Mr. GARFIELD. I was speaking of a wider "we; " I mean we, like a man to take 00 off my salary in votin" for the bill abolishing this Congress. the mileage system which was passed by the HollSe this morning, and The CHAIRMAN. Debate is exhausted on the pending amend· I am patriotic enough to apply the same kind of treatment to those menta. The Clerk will again report the amendment offered by the who do not happen to be, as I am, a member on this floor. I am will­ gentleman from Maine, [Mr. HALE.] ing to say, in reference to every employe about the House connected The Clerk read as follows : with legislation, that I will deal fairly by all; but gentlm;nen who In line 177, after the word "dollars" add the followina: are the leaders of this House, skilled in the history of parliamentary Pr011ided, That after the 30th of Jtme, 1874, all tho fofding of the House sha.ll be matters, and who have gone through in detail with all the a1·gumeuts done through the Clerk of the House, and the two folding-rooms now existing shall of this bill, should be able to tell me plainly and distinctly, "We need be united under that officer. so many men in that office; we need so many men in that room; and The CHAIRMAN. Thegentlemanfromlllinois [Mr. WARD]renews we ought to pay them so much." Until they do give UR t.hat informa­ the amendment of-the gentleman from Minnesota, [Mr. DUNNELL,] tion thoy will not get my vote, as I have already stateu, although I do to amend the amentlment of the gentleman from l\laine by stliking 1874. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. 3105 out the word " Clerk" anO. inserting in lieu thereof the. word " Door­ Mr. GARFIELD.- -0, no; let us go on a little longer, and then I will k eeper." · The question will be :first on the amendment of the gentle- niove that the commit tee rise. · · man from illinois. · Mr. WAD DELL. I withdraw my motion. Mr. COBB, of Kansas. I desire to ask a question. Would the Mr. McKEE. I move to insert after the paragraph ending on line amendment to the amendment make the law exactly as it now is by 177, providing for the folding of documents, including pay of folders, placing these services under the charge of the Door-keeper Y &c., the following proviso: Mr. GARFIELD. No; itconsolidatesunderone officer services which Provided, That no part of this appropriation shall be used in paying over twenty are now under the control of two officers. • . folders. . - · Mr. MYERS. As I understand it, these rooms are now under the 1\lr. HOSKINS. "I rise to a point of order; I submit that that charge of the Door-keeper and one under the charge of the Clerk. amendment is liable to the objection that it changes existing laws. The proposition of tb,e gentleman from Illinois would put both under The CHAmMAN. The amendment, as offered by the gentleman the Door-keeper, while that of the gentleman from Maine would put from Mississippi, is in the nature of a limitation upon the appropria­ both under the Clerk. tion. The Chair thinks that it is in order, and overrules the point of The CHAffiMAN. The gentleman from Pennsylvania has stated order raised by the gentleman fi·om New York, [Mr. Hos~s.] correctly the effect of the amendments. . Mr. McKEE. I desire to state in a few words the reason -why I The question being taken on the amendment to the amendment, offer this amendment. We cannot be economical, neither can the there were-ayes 70, noes 51; no quorum voting. . Door-keeper be economical, so long as everybody wants to put John Mr. COBB, of Kansas, called for tellers. · Jones, or '£om Smith, or Dick Somebody, into the foldin.g-room. T.he 'l'he Chair ordered tellers; and appointed Mr. W A.RD of Illinois and trouble with the folding-room is that it has been ma-de a refuge for Mr. HALE of Maine. . men who want places and have not been able to get them elsewhere. The committee again divided; and the tellers reported-ayes 75, When a member cannot get a man a consulship he sends him into noes 73. the folding-room; when he cannot get a man appointed minister to So the amendment to the amendment was agreed to. Mexico, he sets him to work folding documents here. . The CHAmMAN. The question recurs on the amendment of the Now, sir, I am opposed to this thing of providing places her~ for gentleman ·from Maine [Mr. HALE] as amended by the amendment men who are desirous of se~g Uncle Sam, and I think we had bet- · of the gentleman from Illinois, [Mr. WARD.] ter restrict the number of folders to twenty. The question being taken, there were-ayes 32, noes 83; no quorum Mr. WARD, of Illinois. Does the gentleman know how many are · voting. · · now employed f The Chair ordered tellers; and appointed Mr. HoLMAN and Mr. HALE Mr. McKEE. 'There are now-employed nnder the name of folders­ of Maine. ! do not know how many are employed under other names-fifty-six Mr. HAZELTON, of Wisconsin. I desire to make a parliamentary p rsons. Now that is about one folder to every three or four Con­ inquiry. If this amendment is lost does it leave the law precisely gressmen. We must keep them -very busy. I do not know what they as it is at pre ent f are doing down there; but I tell you that it is not necessary that we The CHAmMAN. It does. . should have so many. Gentlemen near me say that if I will sit down 1\lr. HALE, of Maine. I do not myself call for a further count. they will carry my amendment, so I will say no more. Mr. HOLMAN. I insist on a further count. And I ask that the . The question •was taken on Mr. McKEE's amendment; and on a amendment as.amended be again read. -division there were ayes 82, noes not counted. The amendment as amended wa-s again read. So the amendment was agreed to. Mr. PQTTER. I desire to call the attention of the Chair to the 1\lr. BUTLER, of Tennessee. I move to amend ~y adding to the fact that since the amendment of. the gentleman from Maine [Mr. amendment just a-dopted the following : 1 HALE] has been amended, the gentleman· from Main6 has become Thfl,t the twenty folders shall be from Maine and :Mississippi. opposed to his own amendment, or else the tellers are both on the same side. · Mr. SPEER. I make the point of order that that changes existing The committee again dividE}d; and the tellers reported-ayes 51, law. noes 75. Mr. McKEE. I move to amend the amendment by striking out Mr. HOLMAN. I do not insist on a further count. "Maine." . So the amendment as amended wa-s not agreed to. 1\lr. PARKER, of Missouri. What existing law does the amend­ Mr. WILLARD, of Vermont. I now renew my amendment to strike . ment of the gentleman from Tennessee change f out" 50,000" and insert "$30,000;" so it will read, "for folding docu­ Mr. SPEER. There is no existing law requiring them to be ap:­ ments, including pay of folders in the folding-rooms and materials, pointed from those two States, although the fact may be that they $30,000." . . are. • . · lli. RAJ\TDALL. I move to amend t-h>S amendment of the gentle­ The CHAIRMAN. The point of order raised by the gentleman man from Vermont by making the amount $25,000. from Pennsylvania is not well taken. Mr. WILLARD, of Vermont. I desire just to say in one word that 1\lr. HOSKINS. I move as an amendment to the amendment to the appropriation for this service in 1 60 was 30,000, and that in 1866 strike out " Maine and Mississippi," and insert in lieu thereof " the it was 30,000. I have selected these two years, one being before and district represented by the gentleman from Mississippi, [Mr. McKEE."] the other after the war. Mr. SENER. There is already an amendment to the amendment Mr. RANDALL. The gentleman should remember that that was pending. · · _under the franking privilege, and now we have none. Mr. McKEE. I will accept the amendment of the gentleman from 1\lr. SOUTHARD. I move to amend by _making the amount New .Yor~. · $15,000. 1\fr. STARKWEATHER. I hope these frivolons proceedings will The CHAmMAN. Only one amendment to the amendment can be go no further. Let us get on with the bill. . received. The CHAmMAN. Does the gentleman from New York [Mr. Hos- . Mr. RANDALL. I a-ccept the ~mendment of the gentleman from KINS] insist on his amendment to the amendment Y Ohio, [Mr. SOUTHARD.] . Mr. HOSKINS. No, sir. The question being taken on Mr. RANDALL's amendment as modified, Mr. BUTLER, of Tennessee. I withdraw my amendment. . making the amount $15,000, -it was not agreed to. . The Clerk proceeded.with the reading.. of the bill, and read a-s fol­ 1\lr. RANDALL. I now renew.my amendment to the amendment lows: to make the amo'unt $25,000. For packing-boxes, $3,020. The question being taken on 1\lr. RANDALL's amendment to the Mr. COBB,·of Kansas. I move tostrike out that clause. We have amendment, there were-ayes 59, noes 61; no quorum voting. started this morningforpurposes of economy. Wehave repealed the The Chair ordered tellers; and appointed 1\lr. MYERS and Mr. law providing for mileage for members. Now, I am told-as a new RANDALL. member I know nothing at all about it-that wheu the session closes Mr. COBB, of Kansas. I make the ppint of order, that the Chair we all have little boxes made down-stairs here, and this appropriation has announced the number of members who have voted on either side, of $3,020 is to pay for them. · . . · and that one-fifth of a quorum of this House has not asked for tellers. A MEMBER. Each member has three boxes. Mr. RANDALL. No quorum has voted. · l\lr. COBB, of Kansas. So far as I am concerned, I did not come The CHAIRMAN. Does the gentleman from Kansas desire further here for the purpose of being p:ut in a box ; I do not -desire to go home reply thanha been given by the gentleman from Pennsylvaniaf in a box; in fact, if possible, I want to go home about the same way The committee again divided; and the tellers reported-ayes 69, I came, and I should like very well to draw mileage if it were possi­ noes 47. · ble. But, inasmuch as we are economical, and have to-day beep. vot­ Mr. MYERS. I do not insist on a further count. ing for the purpose of cutting down thepayof the one-armedsoldiers So l\fr. RANDALL's amendment was agreed to. around this Capitol, and have for the most part in fact cut down the The CHAIRMAN. The question recurs on the amendment of the pay of the employes of this House, let us now go right to the root of gentleman from Vermont as amended, the amount of 25,000 having the matter and cut down our own compensation where we have an been inserted. • opportunity to do it. · The question being taken; there were-ayes 81, noes 45. So far as I am concerned, as a member of this Honse I want the So the amendment, as amended, was adopted. peopletoknowdistinctlyeverydollarof.moneythat I draw a amem­ Mr. WADDELL. I move that the committee do now rise. ber; and _I do not propose to have boxes char&ed a&ainst me _by the 195 31.06 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. APRIL 15,

people of .my district as a part of the perquisites I have received as The CHAIRMAN. The Chair will refer to the record and ascertain a member of Congress. I hope the House will strike out this appro­ whether a quorum voted or not. The fact is that so much noise was priation, for the same reason that we have voted to cut off mileage made at the timo that it was impossible for the Chair to tell whether this morning and that we voted to reduce our salaries, for the reason a quorum voted or not. The Clerk will refer to the record and in­ that every Congressman is receiving a great deal more money than form the Chair whether there was or not a quorum voting. he ought to have. Mr. GARFIELD. The question turns upon whether a further count Mr. CRITTENDEN. I would a-sk the gentleman if he has yet got is a-sked ; not upon whether a quorum voted or not. · his boxes¥ The CHAIRMAN. The clerk who has the record of the vote 'ha-s Mr. COBB, of Kansas. No; and I do not want any boxes. left the Hall. The Chair, however, is willing to accept the statement The question was taken on the amendment offered by Mr. CqBB, of of gentlemen that a quorum did not vote, and will take the sense of Kansas; and there were-ayes 47, noes 73; no quorum voting:. of the committee upon ordering tellers. Tho CHAIRMAN put the question on ordering tellers; ana. only 8 Mr. HALE, of New York. I raise the point 6f order that it is not members voted therefor. competent for the Chair to take the sense of the committee upon The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Kansas raised the point of ordering tellers, but it is the duty of the Chair under the rule to order order that tellers could not be ordered unless one-fifth of a quorum tellers. voted therefor. Tellers, therefore, are not ordered; and the amend­ Mr. KELLOGG. I rise to a question of order. ment is disagreed to. Mr. HALE, of New York. Can a second question of order be enter­ Mr. COBB, of Kansas. I rise to a question of order. tained until the one I have raised has been dispo ed oft The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will continue the reading of the bill. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair does not know whether a quorum Mr. COBB, of Kansas. I rise to a question of order. voted or not. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman will please state his point of Mr. HALE, of New York. I understood the Chair to state that he order. • would accept the statement of any gentleman to that effect. I make Mr. COBB of Kansa-s. It is that a quorum did not vote. the statement that a quorum did not vote. The ciiAiRMAN. The point of order, if made in time, would have The CHAIRMAN. The Chair a~cepts the statement of the gentle­ been well taken. The Clerk will continue the reading. ' man, and will order tellers. The gentleman from Kansas, Mr. CoBB, Mr. COBB, of Kansas, (standing in the middle aisle in front of the and the gentleman from New York, Mr. HALE, will act as tellers. . Clerk's desk.) I raise the point of order-- [After a pause.) The record has been brought tothe attention of the Mr. PLATT, of Virginia. I make the point of order that the gen­ Chair, showing that a quorum did not vote on the amendment of the tleman from Kansaa [Mr. COBB) must address the Chair from his own gentleman from Kansas. It is therefore the duty of the Chair to or­ seat. . der tellers, which he has done, and they will take their pla~es. The CHAIRMAN. The point of order of the gentleman from Vir­ The committee proceeded to vote ; and the tellers reported that there ginia·[Mr. PLA.Tr) is well taken. The gentleman from Kansaa [Mr. were-ayes 62, noes 71; no quorum votin!Y'. COBB] will please resume his seat. Mr. COBB, of Kansas, (one of the tellers.) I do not ask for a Mr. COBB, of Kansas. I raise the point of order--. further count. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman will pleaBe resume his place. The CHAIRMAN. The committee has seemed to be desirous of Mr. COBB, of Kansas, returned to hiS seat. taking tho vote by tellers, and the Chair will insist upon the vote Mr. RICE. I move that the committee rise. being so taken. If no quorum shall vote tho Chair will flirect the Mr. HALE, of New York. I make the point of order that the gen­ roll to be called, and report the absentees to the House. tleman from KansM [Mr. CoBB) haa a. right to speak in front of the The count was completed; and the tellers reported that there were- Clerk's desk. ayes 71, noes 81. • The CHAIRMAN. That point of order is well taken; but the gen­ So the amendment was not adopted. tleman from Kansa-s was in the middle aisle, some :fifteen feet from ltfT. GARFIELD. I move that the committee now rise. the Clerk's desk. The motion was agreed to. Mr. WARD, of illinois. I desire to say with reference to the gen- The committee accordingly rose; and 'the Speaker having resumed tleman from Kansas-- · · · the cliair~ Mr. WooDFORD reported that, pursuant to the order of the Mr. COBB, of Kansas, (from. his seat.) I ask consent of the com­ House, the Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union had had mittee-- under consideration the state of the Union generally, and particularly Mr. MYERS. I think the gentleman from Kansas should be allowed the bill (H. R. No. 2064) making ·appropriations for .the legislative, an opportunity to be heard. executive, and judicial expenses of the Government for the year end­ Mr. ·wARD, of Illinois. And he will get it. . ing June 30, 1875, and for other purposes, and had come to no resolu­ The CHAIRMAN. The gentlbman from Kansas asks consent to be tion thereon. heard. · DWIGHT J. M1CANN. Mr. COBB, of Kansaa. It is a question of but little importance to l\Ir. BUTLER, of Tennessee, from the Committee on Indian Affairs, me a-s an individual; but it is of some importance to this House. I by unanimous consent, reported back the bill·(H. R. No. 2039) for the desired to raise the point of order that a quorum did not vote upon relief of Dwight J. McCann; which was referred to the Committee my amendment, and that the Chair, by his hasty way of refusing tell­ of the Whole on the Private Calendar, and thereport accompanying ers; gave me no opportunity to call for them. I now desire to call for the same ordered to be printed. tellers upon my amendment, for the purpose of vindicating my right Mr. GARF~LD. I move that the House now a-djourn. and that of every other member of this committee to be heard, and to The motion was agreed to; and accordingly (at five o'clock p.m.) have any amendment he may submit fairly tested. . the House adjourneo.. The CHAIRMAN. The committee will bear witness that the Chair has taken exceeding pains to be not only courteous but impartial· toward every member of this committee. Before the point of order was raised the count had been announced by the Chair, the Clerk PETITI0NS, ETC. had been directed to proceerl with ·the reading, a gentleman had risen The following memorials, petitions, and other papers were pre­ to move an amendment to the succeeding paragraph, and had been sented at the Clerk's desk, under the rule, and refened as stated : recognized by the Chair. With entire courtesy toward the gentle­ By Mr. AR;CHER: The memorial of the Year~y Meeting of the man from Kansas [Mr. COBB] and toward all the committee the Chair Somety of Friends, held at Lombard street, Baltimore, a-skin(Y' that :Pas simply desired to expedite the business of this committee, as the death penalty for crime may be changed to impri onment at labor seemed to be the wish of members. · The .Clerk will continue the for a terrri. of years, or for life, to the Committee on the Judiciary. reading. A~o, the. peti?on. of ~he Forest Farmers'. Club of Maryland, in Mr. GARFIELD. I move that the committee now rise. relation to mtoncating hquo.rs, to the CollliDlttee on the Judiciary. :Mr. HALE, of New York. I rise to a question of order. My ques­ By Mr. CHAFFEE: The petition of Chambers C. Davis and 44 tion of order is that at the moment the Chair announced the-result of others, of Denver, Colorado, for the repeal of the second section of the vote the gentleman from Kansas was on his feet, manifestly seek- the act of June 6, 1872, which reduced certain duties 10 peT cent., to ing to call for tellers. · - the Committee on ·ways and Means. 1\!r. McNULTA. That is clearly so. . . By Mr. CROOKE: The petition of J. D. Hanning and 409 others, Mr. HOL~ . I~ seems to me that the gentleman from Kansas for the passage of the bill (H. R. No. 1179) granting •increased pen­ should certainly have the benefit of the ordinary rules of tho House sions to disabled soldiers, to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. in testing the sense of the committee upon his amendment. By :Mr. DUELL: The petition of T. J. Chaffee and 77 others, of The CHAIRMAN. The Chair had not, and could not have, the similar import, to the same committee. slightest inclination to prevent any count that might be desired. If By Mr. FIELD : The petition of Alfred Chesebrough and Rufus W. the members of the committee desire to have a count by tellers-­ Gillett of Detroit, Michigan, that the name of the schooner China Mr. GARFIELD. I ask that the count be taken by tellers, and may be changed to Canton, to the Committee on Commerce. then I will move that the committee rise. By Mr. HYDE: A paper for a post-ronte from Trenton to Winters­ 1\Ir. HALE, of New Yor:k. I rise to !)>nother question of order. It vill6, Missouri, to the Committee on the Post-Office and Post-Roads. is that, according to the vote as announced by the Chair, there was no By Mr. KASSON: The memorial of Charles Francis Adams, James quorum voting. It was, therefore, the duty of the Chair, under the T. Fields, and other citizens of Massachusetts, relative to reform in rule and without any requirement on the part of the committee, to the. syRtem of weights and meaBmes, to the Committee on Coinage, appoint tellers and order the vote to be taken by them. Weights, and Measm·es. 1874. - CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. 3107

Also, the memorial of President Barnard and other scientific citi- Also, the petition of 14 citiz·ens of Shelby County, Ohio, of similar zens, of similar import, to the same committee. · import, to the same committee. Also, the memorial of Robert C. Winthrop and others, of similar Also, the petition of 20 citizens of Frederick County, Virginia, of import, to the same committee. -similar import, to the same committee. . Also, the memorial of Professor Eggleston and other scientists, of Also, the petition of 13 citizens of Cocke County, Tennessee,·of siru.~ New YorkJ of similar import, to the same committee. ilar import, to t-he same committee. Also, the memorial of President Jackson, of Trinity College, Con­ Also, the petition of 16 citizens of Orleans County, New York, of necticut, and others, of similar iinport, to the same committee. similar import, to the S3JD.e committee. Also, the memorial of professors of Trinity College, of similar im- Also, the petition of 25 citizens of Pike County, Mississippi, of sim­ port, to the same committee. _ . ilar import, to the same committee. By Mr. KELLEY: The petition of the Zoological Society of Phila­ Also, the petition of 7 citizens of Randolph County, North Carolin~ delphia, that collections of animals, &c., for said society may be im­ of similar import, to the same committee. . ported free of duty, to the Committee on Ways and Means. Also, the petition of 42 citizens of Grant County, Kentucky, of sim~ By Mr. McCRARY:. The petition of Daniel Carter, for a pension, to ilar import, 'to the same committee. . the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, the petition of 23 citizens of Saint Joseph County, Iowa, of By Mr. SAYLER, of Indiana: The petition o~ 68 citizens of Frank­ similar import, to the same committee. . - lin County, Missouri, for the passage of a law authorizing the manu­ · Also, the petition of 28 citizens of Pickens County, Alabama, of facture of patent-right articles by others than the owners of patent­ similar import, to the same committee. riCThts upon the payment of a reasonable royalty thereon, to the Com- . ~o, _the petition of 17 citize~s of Huntington County, Iowa, of ·mittee on Patents. · similar rmport, to the same committee. · • · _Also, the petition of 29 citizens of Vigo County, Indiana, of simi­ Also, the petition of 23 citizens of Saint Joseph County, Michigan; lar import, to the same committee. of similar import, to the same committee. _ . ~ Also, the petition of 26 citizens of Howard County, Indiana, of Also, the petition of 24 citizens of Mercer County, Kentucky, of similar import, to the same committee. similar import, to the same committee. · . Also, the petition of 29 citizens of Vermilion County, Illinois, of sim- Also, the petition of 25 citizens of Darke County, Ohio, of simi13.rii:n. ilar import, to the same committee. · port, to the same committee. · . Also, the petition of 14 citizens of Lancaster County, , of Also, the petition of 24 citizens of Lee County, Mississippi, of sim.· similar import, to the same committee. ilar import, to the same committee. · Also, the petition of 15 citizens of Montgomery County, Maryland, Also, the petition of 19 citizens of Buchanan County, Iowa, of sim­ of similar import, ·to the same committee. ilar import, to the same committee. Also, the petition of 10 citizens of Monroe County, Pennsylvania, Also, the petition of 14 citizens of Randolph County, Indiana, of of similar import, to the same committee. similar import, to the arne committee. - Also, the petition of 30 citizens of Woodford County, Kentucky, of Also, the petition of 16 citizens of Cass County, Indiana, of similar similar import, to the same committee. import, to the same committee. · Also, the petition of 18 citizens of Mercer County, New Jersey, of Also, the petition of 27 citizens of Hillsdale County, Michigan, of similar import, to the same committee. similar import, to the same committee. Also, the petition of 22 citizens of Racine County, Wisconsin, ot Also, the petition of 14 citizens-of Logan County, Ohio, of similar similar import, to the same committee. impo:tt, to the same committee. Also,· the petition of 22 citizens of Marshall County, Dlinois, of Also, the petition of 28 citizens of Lawrence County, Indiana, of . similar import, to the same committee. · similar import, to the same committee. · Also, the petition of 27 citizens of Gage County, Nebraska, of sim­ Also, the petition of 22 citizens of Woodson County, KansaB, of ilar import, to the same committee. similar import, to the same committee. Also, the petition of 18 citizens of Medina County, Ohio, of similar Also, the. petition of 19 citizens of ElDorado County, California, of import, to the same committee. · similar import, :to the same committee. Also, the petition of 19 citizens of Benton County, Iowa, of similar Also, the petition of 23 citizens of Shelby County, Kentucky, of simi­ import, to the same committee. · lar import, to the same committee. Also, the petition of 20 citizens of Granville County, North Carolina, Also, the petition of 20 citizens of Bourbon County, Kentucky, of of similar import, to the same committee. . similar import, to. the same committee. Also, the petition of 18 citizens of Saline County, Kansas, of sim-:­ Also, the petition of 19 citizens of Reno County, Kansas, of similar ilar import, to the same committee. import, to the same committee. Also, the petition of 15 citizens of Atchison County, Kansas, of sim­ Also, the petition of 23 citizens of Branch County, Michigan, of ilar import, to the same committee. similar import, to the same committee. · Also, the petition of 2'2 citizens of :Mitchell County, Kansas, of sim­ Also, the petition of 18 citizens of Franklin County, Iowa, of similar ilar import, to the same committee. import, to the same committee. . Also, the petition of 11 citizens of Coffey County, Kansas, of sim­ Also, the petition of 17 citizens of Piatt Coun.ty, Illinois, of similar ilar import, to the same committee. import, to the same committee: Also, the petition of 9 citizens of Cass County, Illinois, of similar Also, the petition of 25 citizens of Prince George's County, Maryland, import, to the same committee. of similar import, to the same committee. Also, the petition of 23 citizens of Spencer County, Dlinois, of sim­ By Mr. STRAIT: The petition of citizens of Minnesota, f01· a post­ ilar import, to the same committee. route from Marshall, Minnesota, to Lake Kampeska, Dakota, to the' Also, the petition of 16 citizens of Hancock County,_lndiana, of sim­ Committee on the Post-Office and Post-Roads. ilar import, to the same committee. By Mr. WALLACE: The memorial of Robert K. Scott, of South Also, the petition of 31 citizens of Wayne County, New York, of Carolina, in relation to charges made against him, to the Committee similar import, to the same committee. on the Judiciary. . Also, the petition of 9 citizens of Hillsborough County, New Hamp­ By Mr. --: The petition of citizens of Alta City and Salt Lake shire, of similar import, to the same committee. County, , for grant of right of way for a toll-road in Little Cot­ Also, the petition of 13 citizens of Warrick County, Indiana, of sim­ tonwood County,·Utah, to the Cemmittee on the Public Lands. ilar import, to the same committee. Also, the petition of 23 citizens of Warren County, Ohio, of similar import, to the same committee. Also, the petit.ion of 18 citizens of Bourbon County, Kansas, of sim- ilar import, to the same committee. · IN SENATE. Also, the petition of 130 citizens of Boone County, Missouri, of sim- ilar import, to the same committee. . THURSDAY, April 16, 1874. Also, the petition of 43 citizens of Will County, Illinois, of similar import, to the same committee. Prayer by the Rev. THOMAS GALLAUDET, D. D., of New York. Also, the petition of Z7 citizens of Clayton County, Georgia, of sim­ The Journal of yesterday's proceedings was read and approved. ilar import, to _the same committee. Also, the petition of 22 citizens of Howard County, Maryland, of PETITIONS AND. MEMORIALS. similar import, to the same committee. The PRESIDENT p1·o ternpm·e. The Chair presents resolutions from Also, the petition of 20 citizens of Hickman County, Kentucky, of the industrial congress of the United States, in the form of a memo­ similar import, to the same committee. rial, signed by its president and secret.ary. As the paper is short, the Also, the petition of 22 citizens of J:efferson County, Tennessee, of Chair will read it: similar import, to the same committee. · Thefollowingresolutions were unanimously passed by the industrial congress of Als,o, .the petition of 14 citizens of McDougal County, illinois, of the United States: . similar import, to the same committee. Resolved. That the industrial congress of the United States. representing the Also, the petition of 67 citizens of Knox County, Illinois, of similar interests of the producing classes, hereby enters itsprotest a-gainst the extension of import, to the same committee. - the currency issued by or through the influence o the national banking system,' believing it to be the robber of labor and the sum of all villainies. · Also, the petition of 26 citizens of Jefferson County, Kansas, of sim­ Resolved, That we demand the -issue of a circulating medium issued direct-ly by ilar import, to the same committee. the Government to the people, the same to be a legal tender for debts public anii