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Episode 031 the Courage to Dive in to Your First Conservation Photography Project: an Interview with Carla Rhodes Podcast Transcript Episode 031 The Courage to Dive In To Your First Conservation Photography Project: An Interview with Carla Rhodes SEE THE SHOW NOTES AT JaymiH.com/31 ​ Jaymi Heimbuch: I genuinely do not remember how I met Carla, but I do know when I ​ really became aware of her as just this creative force of nature, and it was when she joined my free Facebook group Conservation Photographers, and then subsequently she became a member of Wild Idea Lab. Naturally, I started to pay a lot more attention to her and her work, but I also started to really follow what it was that she was doing as a conservation photographer. And one of the things that just blew me away was she launched into her very first conservation photography project in a way that I think just not many people do. She decided what it was that she was going to work on, and then she packed her bags and headed to another country for five weeks and just buried herself into the work. And she did this in a way that I think really stands out, because it would be terrifying for a lot of new conservation photographers to dive into their first project in such a big way. And she is definitely just getting going inside of this field. Impact: The Conservation Photography Podcast JaymiHeimbuch.com/Podcast I think that what she did would amaze a lot of people and scare a lot of mothers, but why I love talking with Carla about her project is that she has a perspective that I think is incredibly important and valuable for everybody working in this field to really consider, and that is that your passion for what it is that you really want to accomplish through your work overrides your fear of doing that work. It overrides your fear of doing something new that you've never done before. It overrides your fear of judgment. It overrides your fear of unpredictability or uncertainty. In other words, Carla cares so much about the species that she wants to document within her first conservation photography project that she pushed aside any of her fears and just embraced courage. And one of the things that came out of my conversation with her is that she's out in the field doing this and she is thinking, "Hey, what if the worst thing that happens is I learn something? Is that so bad?" Now, in watching Carla head out into the field in this first major endeavor, and just completely embrace the experience, and then come back with some truly incredible imagery, I knew that I wanted to talk with her more about the way that she approaches her work and the thought process behind it. And what's important to know is that Carla is a very unique person, but she's not that unique in that she has some sort of superpower for being courageous. She really purposefully thinks about what it is that she wants to accomplish, and she uses that to go for it. And so I knew that I wanted to bring her on to the podcast and talk about that mindset, because that mindset can be so inspiring and empowering for someone who is witnessing it to take that on for themselves. So, we are diving into how her very first conservation photography project took shape, the types of things that she was thinking as she planned it and headed out into the field, and some of the big lessons that she learned as well. And I think that what's inside of this interview is going to be inspiring, not only for those of you who are starting your first project and are really trying to build up the courage to fully launch and do it and put yourself out there, but also for those of you who are established conservation photographers because it will remind you of what you can accomplish, and probably what you have accomplished, when you just throw yourself into the work because you care so deeply. And when you put fear aside, and you can act from a place of courage and compassion, the things that you can create and the movements that you can inspire are truly extraordinary. So, let's get into this interview with Carla Rhodes. [music] Welcome to Impact: The Conservation Photography Podcast. I'm your host, Jaymi Heimbuch. And if you are a visual storyteller with a love for all things wild, then you're in Impact: The Conservation Photography Podcast JaymiHeimbuch.com/Podcast the right place. From conservation to creativity, from business to marketing, and everything in between, this podcast is for you, the conservation visual storyteller who is ready to make an impact. Let's dive in. JH: Welcome, Carla, to Impact: The Conservation Photography Podcast, and I am so ​ excited that you are coming aboard for an interview because we have had a blast talking in our Facebook group and in Wild Idea Lab about the adventure that you've had and everything that you've learned. And you've been a huge inspiration to me from those conversations, so I'm really excited that you're here and that you're willing to talk about it because I know that you're gonna be an inspiration for everyone who's listening. Carla Rhodes: Well, hi, and it's an absolute honor to be on your podcast. ​ JH: Well, let's go ahead and get started with the context about your project. You are a ​ relatively new conservation photographer in that you haven't had a whole lot of experience under your belt, and so you dove into a project full force and basically have come away looking very much like a pro, way experienced conservation photographer. And so I wanna start with the context of how you found that project and how you decided to go so full force into something for the very first time. CR: That's a great question, and I dove into this project just because I believe in it so ​ much, in every little piece of it. I just found the story fascinating. And so the project is basically on the rarest stork in the world, Greater Adjutant stork. There's estimated to be less than 1200 of these birds left in the world. And the women who are saving them... And I found this project because I was asked to go to India in 2018, to travel in a motorized rickshaw through the Himalayas in India. And I actually said "yes," 'cause I had always wanted to go, and I survived that journey through some of the highest motorable passes in the world. And I really wanted to go photograph wildlife after that part of my trip. And during this time, it was in September, so most of the national parks in India were closed. And one of the only ones that was open was in Assam, Manas Park, and so I went. And on the way, traveling back from Manas to Guwahati, which is the gateway to the Northeast India, they call it. I saw a Greater Adjutant stork standing by the side of the road. At the time, I had never seen one of these birds. I didn't even know the name of it, I just knew this bird looked so cool. They're 5 feet tall. They look so rock and roll, they're unbelievable looking. And I asked the person who was driving, "What is that bird?" And he said, "It's a Greater Adjutant stork." And I asked, "Where can I see more?" Impact: The Conservation Photography Podcast JaymiHeimbuch.com/Podcast The next day, he took me to see more. And I thought he was gonna take me to a wetland or a forest, and he took me to the Baragaon landfill, which is a sprawling landfill. We're around a big colony of Greater Adjutants, scavengers, and at that moment, my entire life completely did a 360. And it was one of these moments in my life that I look back on, and will my whole life and be like, "My life changed." Because we pull into this landfill and I see this endangered bird scavenging. Alongside of the bird, there's people scavenging. There's cows, there's wild dogs, and there's trash taller than buildings. And not only that, this landfill is eating a Ramsar-protected wetland. So, at that moment, I just said to myself, this whole time I've been pursuing wildlife photography, I'm like, "My work has to make a difference. I wanna be a wildlife conservation photographer." I went home with that knowledge and just became obsessed with the story. So, that's the very long answer to that question. JH: That's an amazing story. That's such a great origin story for this entire project. But ​ for you as well, it's like that big defining moment where you know that what you thought might have been a hobby or something that you do for fun with wildlife photography, you now have this mission for it. You now know that you're gonna do something bigger. CR: Yeah. I gotta say it completely... I'm getting chills thinking about it, because it's one ​ of the few moments in my life where my whole life changed. And I just became so obsessed with the story in that moment, it moved me to tears. That actually changed my whole view on life, I'm not exaggerating, because there were also..
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