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August 15, 2013 Toosey NEW PROSPERITY GOLD COPPER MINE PROJECT FEDERAL REVIEW PANEL CANADIAN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AGENCY AGENCE CANADIENNE D'ÉVALUATION ENVIRONMENTALE HEARING HELD AT Toosey (Tl'lesqox) Indian Band Office Toosey, British Columbia Thursday, August 15, 2013 Volume 17 FEDERAL REVIEW PANEL Bill Ross Ron Smyth George Kupfer International Reporting Inc. 41-5450 Canotek Road, Ottawa, Ontario K1J 9G2 www.irri.net 1-800-899-0006 (ii) TABLE OF CONTENTS / TABLE DES MATIERES PAGE Opening remarks by Panel Chair 6 Presentation by Taseko 17 Presentation by Cheryl Williston 37 Presentation by Councillor David Stieman 55 Presentation by Georgina Johnny 61 Presentation by Peyel Laceese 63 Presentation by Douglas Johnny 69 Presentation by Violet Tipple 82 Presentation by Quinton Palmantier 85 Presentation by Luke Doxtator, David Setah and J.P. La Plante 88 Presentation by Chief Francis Laceese 154 Presentation by Michelle Tung & Gord Sterritt 155 Presentation by Nora Johnny 180 Presentation by Teresa Billy 182 Presentation by Valerie Johnny 183 Presentation By Roseanne Haller 189 Presentation by Natika Johnny 201 Presentation by Stanley Stump 202 Presentation by Stormy Narcisse 215 (iii) TABLE OF CONTENTS / TABLE DES MATIERES PAGE Presentation By Chief Francis Laceese 217 Closing Remarks by Taseko 231 4 1 Toosey, British Columbia 2 --- Upon commencing at 10:00 a.m. 3 --- Opening ceremony. 4 CHAIRPERSON ROSS: Good 5 morning, everyone. Welcome to the community 6 hearing session with the Toosey First Nations 7 regarding Taseko Mine's proposed New Prosperity 8 Gold Copper Mine. 9 First, our appreciation to the 10 Toosey within whose traditional territory we are 11 holding this hearing today, and for the warm 12 welcome and opening ceremony that you have given 13 us. 14 At this time, Chief Francis, we 15 have a small gift for yourself and band council, 16 as well as for the elders. If you could 17 distribute them on the Panel's behalf, that would 18 be very nice. 19 --- Gift presentation from the Panel. 20 CHAIRPERSON ROSS: I understand 21 Taseko has some gifts as well, Chief Francis. 22 --- Gift presentation from Taseko. 23 CHAIRPERSON ROSS: I would now 24 like to introduce the Panel. My name is Bill 25 Ross. This is George Kupfer and this is Ron 5 1 Smyth. The secretariat members are Livain 2 Michaud, Jason Patchell, Joanne Smith, Maryléne 3 Cormier, and Courtney Trevis, all over here. The 4 secretariat are identified by name tags and will 5 be able to assist you with any logistics or 6 process-related questions you might have. 7 At this time I would like to 8 ask Taseko to introduce their representatives. 9 MR. YELLAND: My name is Greg 10 Yelland. To my right is Cheryl Williston. Far 11 end of the table is Brittany Russell. Beside her 12 is Katherine Gizikoff, Scott Jones, and Christy 13 Smith. 14 CHAIRPERSON ROSS: Thank you. 15 Chief Francis, would you like to introduce any of 16 your representatives or councillors if they're 17 here? 18 CHIEF FRANCIS: My name is 19 Francis Laceese, last name, L-A-C-E-E-S-E. Once 20 again just a welcome to Tsilhqot'in territory, 21 Toosey. We call it Tl'esqox. 22 I'd like to introduce a couple 23 of my council that are here -- actually, all three 24 of them are here. This is David Stieman, Georgina 25 Johnny and Violet Tipple. That's our council here 6 1 and, once again, welcome. 2 OPENING REMARKS BY PANEL CHAIR: 3 CHAIRPERSON ROSS: Thank you, 4 Chief Francis. Before we begin I have a few 5 housekeeping items to go over. The sessions here 6 have started at 10:00 and will end approximately 7 6:00 p.m. to accommodate those who need to travel. 8 In the event of an emergency I 9 will make an announcement as appropriate. In the 10 event of fire we ask everyone to proceed calmly 11 out the nearest door - I know that one works, I'm 12 not sure about that one - and assemble away from 13 the building for safety. Every day I go through 14 this and every day I hope and so far so good, we 15 never have to use these, but I want us to be 16 prepared. 17 In the event of a medical 18 emergency, let one of the secretariat members 19 know. First aid supplies are available through 20 the community hall. 21 My remarks are lengthy, 22 however, it's important at the outset to review 23 the purpose of these hearing sessions, our mandate 24 and the process we will follow today. 25 The purpose of the community 7 1 hearing session is to provide an opportunity for 2 the Panel to receive information from the Tl'esqox 3 First Nation and other members of the community on 4 the potential environmental effects of Taseko's 5 proposal to construct an open pit gold and copper 6 mine in the vicinity of Fish Lake. 7 The hearing is also designed to 8 provide opportunities for Taseko to explain the 9 proposed project and respond to concerns and 10 questions raised by other participants. 11 Our mandate - our terms of 12 reference - we are an independent panel. We are 13 not the Federal Government. We are not the 14 Proponent. 15 We are appointed by the Federal 16 Minister of the Environment to conduct an 17 assessment of the environmental effects of the 18 proposed mine under the Canadian Environmental 19 Assessment Act 2012. 20 We have been given specific 21 terms of reference by the Minister and I'll 22 highlight some of the key features. As set out in 23 our mandate, we have reviewed the information and 24 submissions generated as part of the 2009/2010 25 environmental assessment for the proposed 8 1 Prosperity Mine, including the environmental 2 impact statement and the previous Panel's report. 3 We have read the transcripts from the previous 4 prosperity hearing, and it would be helpful for 5 the Panel to hear your views on the components of 6 the proposed New Prosperity project and your views 7 on the current proposal. 8 We are mandated to provide 9 conclusions on the significance of adverse 10 environmental affects. We are also mandated to 11 provide any recommended mitigation measures and 12 follow up programs to manage environmental effects 13 associated with the proposed project, should it 14 proceed. 15 If, taking into account, the 16 implementation of any mitigation measures, the 17 proposed project is likely to cause significant 18 adverse environmental affects, we may include in 19 our report a summary of information received that 20 would be relevant - or may be relevant - to a 21 determination by the Government of Canada with 22 respect to the justifiability of such effects. 23 With respect to First Nations, 24 the Panel shall accept and review information on 25 the nature and scope of Aboriginal rights and 9 1 title - potential or established - in the project 2 area and the potential adverse impacts and 3 potential infringement on those rights. 4 The Panel shall also review 5 information from the Prosperity Review for these 6 subjects. The Panel must summarize this 7 information in it's report. 8 The Panel may also recommend 9 mitigation measures regarding adverse 10 environmental affects of the project that could 11 adversely impact or infringe Aboriginal rights and 12 title. 13 The Panel has no mandate to 14 make any determinations with respect to the 15 validity or strength of asserted Aboriginal rights 16 or title claims, with respect to scope of Canada's 17 duty to consult and accommodate Aboriginal groups, 18 and we have no mandate to make any determinations 19 whether Canada has met it's duty to consult or 20 accommodate. 21 Following the completion of our 22 assessment we will prepare a report for the 23 Minister of the Environment. This report will be 24 submitted within 70 days of the close of this 25 public hearing and will be made available to the 10 1 public by the Minister of the Environment. 2 Your participation and 3 involvement is very important to us and we trust 4 it is also helpful to both Taseko and other 5 participants. 6 We recognize that the 7 conclusions and recommendations that we will 8 provide to the Government of Canada on this matter 9 will have an impact on the Tsilhqot'in and the 10 surrounding communities. 11 We want to assure you that we 12 take the responsibility given to us to assess the 13 potential environmental effects of this proposed 14 project very seriously. We ask everyone here to 15 do the same and that you conduct yourself in a 16 manner that is respectful of the important 17 responsibility we have been given. 18 Everyone at this hearing should 19 be courteous and respectful when asking questions 20 or making presentations. The use of demeaning 21 language is not appropriate in this type of forum. 22 Any participants who are disrespectful or rude in 23 their questioning of participants or in their 24 remarks to the Panel won't be allowed to ask 25 further questions or make further comments. 11 1 Our role as the Panel during 2 the public hearing is to remain independent and 3 neutral with respect to all participants before 4 us. We will not engage in private discussion on 5 these matters with anyone involved in these 6 proceedings outside of each other and our 7 secretariat.
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