LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)

Eighth Series, No.89 Wednesday, March 5,1986 Phalguna,14,1907 (Saka)

Fifth Session (Eighth Lok Sabha)

LOK SABHA SECRETARIAT NEW DELHI Price: Rs., 50,00 CONTENTS No.9 Wednesday, March 5, 1986{l'hal,un.14, 1901 (Saka) COLUMNS

Oral Answers. to Questions :

·Starrod Questions Nos. 144. 146 to 148 and 151 to 154 1-29

Written Answers to Questions: 4tStarred Questions Nos. 143, 145, 149, 150 29-40 and 155 to 163

Unstarred Questions Nos. 1416 to 1417, 1419 to 40.. 183 1455, 1457 to 1517 and 1519 to 1547

Papers Jaid on the Table 192·199 Committee on Private Members' Bills and Resolutions Twelfth Report 199 Committee on Welfare of Scheduled Castes and Schedu- led Tribes- Reports of Study Tours 199·200

Statement under Rule 199

Shri K.P. Singh Deo 201·205

Personal Explanations under rule 357- (i) Shri D. P. J adeja 208 (ii) Shri Arvind Netam ... 208-209 Business Advisory Committee Twentieth Report ... 2Ie Watters under rule 377

(i) Need to improve working of telecommun~tion system in Kota and Jhalawar distric(s of Rajasthan Shri Juajhar Singh 210-211

(ii) Demand for setting up a chemical-based fertiliser factory in Tikamgarh district of Madhya PradesA Shrimati Vidyavati Chaturvedi ... 211-212 ·The Sian marked above the name td' a Y..... indicatft that the question was actually asked on the floor or the House by that Member. ( ii ) colulIIWs

(iii) Demand for lifting ban on filling up existing vacancies and creation of new posts in the P &, T Department

Prof. Narain Chand Parashar 212

(iv) Demand for making registration of marriages obligatory

Shri Shanti Dhari"'al 212-213 (v) Need to provide more financial assistance to the State Government of Maharashtra for solving drinking water problem in the State

Shrimati Usha Choudhari 213-214 (vi) Demand for taking necessary measures to provide facilities to fishermen at Kasaragod Harbour in Kerala. Shri I. Rama Rai 214 (vii) Demand for intervention of Umon Government for lifting lock-out in all on-ioing projects by NBCC management.

Sbri Basudeb Acharia 214-215 (viii) Demand for achieving the objectives laid down in the Sixth Five-Year Plan for removal of poverty and un-employment in Bihar

Sbri Ramashray Prasad Singh 215·216

(ix) Demand for providing financial assistance for construction of dam across Subansiri river in Assam Shri M.R. Saikia ... 216 Railway Budget, 1986a 87-General Discussion

Shri Virdhi Chander Jain 217 ... 219 . Shri Dal Chander Jain 219... 2'21

Shrimati Jayatlti Patnaik ••• 222-224 Shri Dinesh Goswami ... 2l4-129 Shri Vakkom Purushothaman ••• 229·231 Sqri Sharad Diahe ... 231·234 Shrimati Kishori Sinha ... 234 .. 238 Dr. Phulrenu Guha 238.. 241 Shri Kamla Prasad Singh 241-24~ $hri AsJam Sher Khan ••• 245-247 ( iii ) COLUMNS

Shri Kailash Yadav 247 .. 248 S hri G. L. Dogra 24&.253 Shri' George Joseph MundackaJ 253·255 Shri Y ogeshwar Prasad Yogesh 255.268 Shri Manvendra Sinzh 258.261 Shri Balwant Singh Ramoowalia 261.264 Shri Ram Nagina Mishra 264.267 Shri Sarfaraz Ahmad 267 .. 269

Shri Bapulal Malvlya 269-270

Shri Narayan Choubey 229. 271-274

Shri M ullappally Ramachandran 275·278

Shri Janak Raj Gupta 278·280 Shri Santosh Kumar Singh 280-282 Shri R.S. Khirhar ... 282·283 Shri Mohd. Mahfooz Ali Khan ... 283-286 Shri Mahendra Singh ... 286-290 Shri G .S. Basavaraju 290-292 Shri Uttam Rathod 292·294 Bsgum Akbar Jahan Abdullah ..... 295·296 Shri R.P. Suman 296·299 Shri S.G. Gholap 299·301 Shri Mohd. Ayub Khan 301.303 Dr. A. Kalanidhi 303·307 Ch. Sunder Singh 307-308 Shri KammodilaJ Jatav 309·310 Shri 1. Rama Rai 31()'312 Dr. Datta Samant 312-315 Shri N. Dennis 315-317 Shri Ram pyare Panika 317-321 Shri Gopal Krishna Thota -... 321-323 Shri C.P. Thakur 323-32S Shri Manoj Pandey ... 325-321 Shri Kadambur Janarthanan ... 328-330 5hri Lal Vijay Pratap Singb 33()"332 LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOK SABHA Vikram Sarabhai Space Centre. However, to meet functional requirements, the process of needed organisational restructuring, establishment of appropriate project teams Wednesday, MaTch 5. 1986/ and consolidation of R&D activitie s to Phalguna 14, 1907 (SAKA) meet the programme requirements, will continue.

SHRI T. BASHEER : I am very much The Lok S abha me t lit disappointed by the answer given by the Eleven of the Clock hon. Minister that there is no proposal to develop new units under the Vikram [MR. SPEAKER in tire Chair} Sarabhai Space Centre. VSSC is a national ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS centre for research and development in launcher development and related areas of [Elfglish] space technology. It IS a well-known fact that our country is very much in an ad- MR. SPEAKER: Shri H. M. Patel. vanced stage regarding the space science and space technology. So there should be SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: That is development in the space units of our a good ques tion. country. MR. SPEAKER: I thlllk that is why To my information, ISRO Authority he is absent ! has proposed to set up some new Units in Kerala namely Geo-Stationary Launch PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: If Vehicle Station and Liquid Fuel Devlop- you can replace one Chief Minister by ment Unit at Valiyamala near Trivandrum another ChIef Mmister, can put the I where Pollar Satellite Launching Vehicle is question! now working. It is in my Constituency. It is a part of VSSC Unit. MR. SPEAKER: You dId not gh,e me that power. Now recently I carne to underst and that ISRO Authority has changed the De,elopmeot of new units uDder VSSC location of this new Unit proposed at Vahyamala to some other State in the ·144.SHRI T. BASHEER: WIll the country and it is reported in the press PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: also.

(a) whether there is any propo sal to I v.ould like to know fronl the hone develop new units under the l\1inister whether the ISR 0 Authorities Vikram Sarabhai Space Centre have taken any decision in this regard. I.· (VSSC) in Kerala; and they wanted to change the location, what is the reason therefor? (b) if so, the details thereof? SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: The THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE hon. Member need not be sorry. We are MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- strengthening t he existing units. NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- MENTS, OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT. MR. SPEAKER: He is only WOf- ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRO- ried! NICS AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) and (b) There is no pro- SHRI SHIVRAl V. PATIL: And not posal to develop new units under the establishin& Units. J MAlteR 5, 1116

S.~oDdJy, the statement made by a As far as launchina facility is CODcer- Minister on the Boor of the House is morc ned we are launchina some rockets from reliable than the statement that appears in the Trivandrum Jaunching pad also. But the newspaper. as far as other launching facilities are concerned, there are other sites also like In view of the fact that we are streng- Sri Harikota and other places and we are thening our Units, it has not been neces- launching the satellites from there. sary for us to establish new Units. Gover nment does not think that Kerala is not a suitable place for space technoloay As far as the Liquid Propellant System development. is concerned, we are trying to do it at Valiyamalai, by strengthening that Unit MR. SPEAKER; It is one of tbe and other Units also are being strongtbe- suitable places. ned for other purposes. SHRI SURESH KURUP: It is one SHRI T. BASHEER: My second 01 the most suitable places. supplementary is, to my information, the ISRO Authorities have prepared a project DR. CHINTA MOHAN: Is it a report for the development of the ISR 0 fact that the HISTRAC unit of the Spac. Units in the count ry and submitted it to Research Centre at Sriharikota of Andhra the Government. Pradesh is being shifted to Karnataka and if so, what are the reasons for that ? I would like to know from the hone Minister whether Government have appro- SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL; We are ved it and. if so. whft are the details re- not shifting. This is the problem. Res- garding that ? tructuring of the Department is treated as shifting. No facilities which are available SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: I am at Sriharikota are shifted to Bangalore or talking about the decision taken by the any other place. On the contrary we are Government. If some study is instituted strengthening the faci1ities which are alrea- and if some reports are received, that is a dy available there. We have launched different matter. But, as things stand to- the SLV from there and other vehicles also day, we have not taken any decision to are going to be launched from there. establish any new unit in Kerala nor are Diyerslon of Pands Allocated for Speclftc we shifting any unit from Kerala to any Scheme. other State. On the contrary, we are strengthening the existing units o\-er ·146. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY : there. Will the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state: SHRI SURESH KURUP: I want to know and I want to get a specific answer. (a) the names of States which haye I want to know whether the ISRO does diverted trc funds allocated for hill deve- consider Kerala as not at all a suitable lopment, agriculture and rural development place for establishing further satellite and anti-poverty programmes and jf so, for launching stations and if so, the reasons what purpose these funds are being uti- therefor. lised; and

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: It (b) the details of plans reported to is the other way. have been worked out by the Planning Commission for penaJising the Sta tes SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: The which divert central funds earmarked for entire space activity as far as the launching specific purpose in the Five Year Plan '1 is concerned and satenite making and liquid propulsion schemes are concerned, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE they are all situated in Kerala State. So MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHill A.

State.eat there have been short-falls in expenditure against the approved outlays over the Sixth Five Year Plan period under Aariculture & Allied Sorvices and Rural Development sectors in some States as follows:

(Rs. crores)

SI. Name of the Sectors in which shortfalls Approved Actual Extent of No. State have occurred Outlays Expenditure shortfall (Latest Estimates)

1 2 3 4 5 6

1. Andhra Pradesh Agriculture & Allied Services 105.58 93.29 (-) 12.29 Rural Development 227.89 205.88 (-) 22.01 2. Assam Alriculture & Allied Services 149.18 143.12 (-) 6.06 R ural Development 89.22 84.53 (-) 4.69 J. Bibar Agriculture & Allied Services 129.80 122.29 (-) 7.51 R ural Development 309.19 30l.31 (-) 6.82 ~. Gujarat Rural Development 188.54 186.07 (-) 2.47 5. Himachal Agriculture & Allied Services 101.39 98.42 (-) 2.97 Pradesh Rural Development 39.41 38.60 (-) 0.81 6. Karnataka Agriculture & Allied Services 179.07 175.87 (-) 3.20 7. Kerala -do- 150.68 149.90 (-) 0.78 8. Maharashtra -do- 336.14 323.24 (-) 12.90 9. Megha)aya -do- 33.01 32.98 (-) 0.03 Rural Development 24.48 23.59 (-) 0.89 10. Nagaland Agriculture & Allied Services 28.91 26.74 (-) 2.17 11. Orissa Rural Development 176.33 168.15 (-) 8.18 12. Punjab Agriculture & Allied Services 147.04 140.83 (-) 6.21 13. Sikkim -do- 32.16 30.25 (-) 1.91 Rural Development ·3.92 3.74 (-) 0.18 1-4. West Bengal Agriculture & AIJied Services 182.40 160.20 (-) 22.20

Note: Provisions under Rural Development include provisions for anti-poverty programmes. 2. As regards Hill Area Development Programme, there have been shortfalls in the Sixth Plan from the Hill Area Development Sub-Plan in the case of Assam and West Bengal (Darjeeling) as follows : (Rs. crores)

SI. Name of the State Total Total expenditure Shortfall No. Approved over the Plan Outlay period

1. Assam 166.54 153.22 (-) 13.32 2. West Denial (DarjeeJin,) 7'1.87 73.65 (-) 4.22 MAR.CH S, t'l6

For purposes of monitoring, shortfalls question was : which are all the States in actual expenditure against approved which have diverted the funds which are outlays are relevant. These shortfalls may earmarked for the anti-poverty and other amount to diversion. It is, however, not rural development programmes. He bas practicable to ascertain precisely where and not pin-pointed that. Contray to this, on to what extent diversIon has actually taken January 25 when he was addressing a meet- place. ing OJ the Chember of Commerce in Cal- cutta he has mentioned while having a dig Prior to 1969, Central Assistance in the on the Jeft-front Government: form of loans and grants was given for the State Plans for specific schemes/projects. "Strangely a sum of Rs. 58 Jakhs In April, 1969, a system of block loans and an of a sudden has been spent on grants was introduced under which Central zoo development instead of utilis- Assistance is given in the form of lump ing it for anti-poverty pro- H sum amount for the State Plan as a whole grammes. according to a formula approved by the National Development Council. Howe\,er, 1 want to know how he has COOle in order to ensure that the Plan eypendi- across this figure and how he is not able ture is in accordance with the Plan priori- to give the correct answer to me. Apart ties, a scheme 0,' earmarking of outlays from that I would hke to ask the Minister was introduced simultaneously with the through you whether this Rs. 58 lakhs or system of block loans and grants. Under whatever he has said in the Calcutta this scheme, funds are earmarked for Agri- Chember of Commerce meeting, has been culture & Allied Ser\'ices and Rural subsequently deducted as he was envisaging Development sectors, Minor Irrigation and that whatever funds which were not utili- Command Areas Development Program- sed, will be automatically deducted in the mes~ specified Irrigation & Power Projects coming year's funds. I would hke to know and various components of the Minimum from the Minister whether this has been Needs Programme. The States are requi- deducted or not. red to adhere to these approved out1ays, and any shortfall in expenditure entaiJs a SHRI A. K. PANJA : So, far as the proportionate cut in Central Assistance. question of utilisation of diverted funds is concerned, it is not possible to know at SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY : My qes- this stage where it has been utihsed. But tion is very clear. I asked 'the names of we can find out sectorwise how far has the States which have diverted the funds been the shortfall. If there was Rs. ] 00 allocated for hill development, agriculture crores aJIotted and if we find that Rs. 100 and rural development and anti-poverty crores total outlay has not been spent as grogrammes and if so, for what purpose actual expenditure, then we find that there the se funds are being utilised.' is a shortfall. Then it is not possible to know from where di\'ersion took place. I am sorry to mention that the Minis- But if it is Rs. 100 crores actuaJ expendi_ . ter has given a reply stating... ture met out of the total outlay, then we find out the sectoral allocation, whether MR. SPEAKER: Are you sorry for Rs. 9 crores aHotted for Education has aetting tbe reply? been spent or not and jf not, what is the shortfall, whether in Agriculture the SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY : I am amount of Rs. 10 crores a1Jotted has been sorry because it is a wrong reply. That is spent or not and if not, what is the what I meant. shortfall. According1y, those figures have been given. In Calcutta when I made the He bas mentioned the names of various statement, it was regarding the spending on States which have not uti} ised the funds. the Zoo for which nothing was allotted to That is the shortfal1s he has mentioned. the State of West Bengal in the 6th plan. Also in the end he is mentioning that these We found out from the accounts given, shortfalls may amount to diversion. My and that was why I stated so. . , j QrllJ IflllfN" PHALGUNA 14. 190.1 (SAK~) 16

SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: The matter of block loans but with a specific Minister has given the reply. I do agree directions; so far as certain sectors are that shortfaJ1 is the unutilised portion of concerned like the anti-poverty programme, the funds sanctioned to the States. Is it rura] development programme, minor irri- not possible for us to ascertain from those gation, they are a1so earmarked and so, States which have not utilised the funds there cannot be any possibiJity of diver- particularly earmarked for anti-poverty sion unless a special case is made out by programme and other rural development the States and Union Territories and sent programmes fronl which they have diverted to the Planning Commission with reasons the funds? If we are not in a position to why they want this diversion, why they find out, then to that extent we are handi- cou Id not spend; if the Planning Commi- capped. In future they will go on diverting ssion thinks that the reasons given are the funds which are earmarked for these proper, then that is aHowed, but without programmes. I want to know from the permission it cannot be done. hone Minister whether any monitoring is done in the Planning Commission to look after this diversion of funds which are SHitI P. NAMG Y AL : I would like mostly earmarked for antI-poverty and to ask a specific que'ition about di\India wil1 make the hone Prime Minister, every three up the diverted amount which has already months, quarterly, monitoring has to take been sanctioned for Ladakh district and place. On that we are exercising so that also supplement the amount diverteq from wherever it has been utilised also-the Ladakh district to Khargil sector for crea- shortfaH-we can find out. tion of some more infrastructure? I would like to have an assurance. SHRI C. MADHA V REDDI: The allocations are mostly in the nature of SHRI A.K. PANJA: The question block loans or block grants to the State of assurance from me or from the Planning Plans. What mechanizm is in existence in Commission does not arise for the reason the Planning Commission or in the Go- that if the diversion is made in the respect vernment to see that the al1ocations made of a fund earmarked for a particular pur- are actually utilised for the purpose for pose, then it is the fault of the State or the which they are made? Since the system Union Territory. We have made out a was introduced from 1969 that there should formula so that a Damoc)es' Sword bangs be block grants only to the State PIan'), over such defaulting States or the Union will the Government reconsider this and Territories. If there is such diversion in see that the earlier practice is restored? respect of the earmarked funds without prior permission of the Planning Commi- SHRI A. K. PANJA : The early pra .. ssion then, there would be proportionate ctice prior to April 1969 was that, accord- cut in so far as that year's central assist- ing to the scheme of the Plan, allocation ance is concerned. was made. But after discussion with the States, aU asreed that it should be as a if

Projects Bebl.d Selledule through Monthly Flash Reports the + Ministry of Proaramme ImplementatioR *147 SHRI SHARAD DIGHE : would help in initiating corrective actlon SHRI B.V. DESAI: by concerned authorities to minimise delays. Will the Minister of PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION be pleased to state: SHRI SHARAD DIGHE: MR.. (a> the number af major projects in Speaker Sir, in reply to questions (8) an" the power, coal, steel and fertiliser sectors (b) the Hon. Minister bas given the number which are behind schedule due to disputes of projects which arc delayed. That relating to land and environment clearance number comes to about 38. The break-up and delayed equipment ; of this is: 21 power projects, 11 coal projects, 4 steel projects and 2 fcrtiliicr (b) the investment involved in such projects. Of course according to me t'bis projects ; and is an under-statement because according 10 the Press reports nearly 84 projects costine (e) what steps Government propose to about Rs. 55,000 crores are behind the take to avoid further delay in the clearance schedule. So, I would like to know what of these projects? is the maximum delay caused in implementation of these projects and which are THE MINISTER OF PROGRAMME those projects which are under maximum IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI A.B.A. delay? GHANI KHAN CHOUDHURY) (a) and (b) 21 Central Power Projects costing MR. SPEAKER: That will be a lon& more than Rs. 100 crores each with antici- list. pated investment of Rs. 8,865 crores have been delayed due to various reasons SHRI A. B. A. GHANI KHAN such as delay in acquisition of land, supply CHOUDHUR Y : There is a long hst. or critical equipment and materials, approval procedure of foreign aid agencies, Jaw MR. SPEAKER You put it on the and order disturbances, forest clearance, Table of the House. difficult geological conditions etc. SHRI SHARAD DIGHE: At least 11 Central Coal Projects costing more you can give the number of projects whick than Rs. 100 crores each with anticipated are delayed for maximum period. investment of Rs. 3213 crores have been delayed due to various reasons such as SHRI A. B. A. GHANI KHAN delay in land acquisition, equipment CHOUDHURY: They are 21 in number supply, difficult geo-mining conditions, so far as power projects are concerned. problems of power supply etc. The maximum delay means 2, 3 and 4- years like that. There will probaly be 4 Central Steel Projects costing more some more delay so far as power projects than Rs. 100 crores each with anticipated are concerned. So far as coal is concern- investment of Rs. 11,870 crores have been ed the number is 16-11 delayed and 5 not delayed due to delay in equipment supply, completed. (InteT,uption8) As regards change in scope, slow construction and in- steel all the 4 projects are deJayed. As adequate funding. regards fertiliser 2 out of 7 projects arc delayed. 2 Central Fertiliser Projects costing more than Rs. 100 crores each with anti- DR. V. VENKATESH: Sir, he is cipated investment of Rs. 716 crores have saying wrong tbings. been delayed due to problems of equipment supply, power, slow equipment erec- MR. SPEAKER: No. No. You can- tion and breakdown during commissioning. not say like this. SHill SHARAD DIGHE : Sir, in .reply (c) By efFective ll'lonitorina of projects to the steps taken by the Govcmmettt tIM 1; PHALCiUNA 14, 1917 (SArA) hon. Minister has said effective monitoring certain delays and the matter is beiDa wak- of projects througb monthly flash reports ed into. and initiatina corrective action. These arc DR. V. VENKATESH : He bas said the two steps which the hon. Minister has about the delay of three to four years. said that the Government proposes to take. What about the projects in Karnataka. I would like to know since land acquisition He is misleadina the House. is a major problem in these delays would the Government consider amending the MR. SPEAKER: It is not a question of misleading. Time factor is crucial. Land Acquisition Act suitably so that delay can be minimised ? Similarly, there is the SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER.: Mr. problem of forest clearance aDd delivery of Speaker, Sir, equipment. Win tbe Government give (Interruptions) genera) guidelines for the problem of forest clearance and supplying the required MR. SPEAKER: I have not allowed equipment instead of taking monthly flash you. reports only ? ( Interruption.)·

MR. SPEAKER : It is a good sugges- SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Sir, I tion for consideration. want to know whether any decision has been taken in regard to Vijayanapr Steel SHRJ A. B. A. GHANI KHAN Plant. CHOUDHURY: Mr. Speaker, Sir. one (Interru/ltio"s) cause is not responsible for the delay. MR. SPEAKER : It is not a specific There are variety OJ' causes. If the hon. Member is interested to know as to what field. It varies from project to proj~. are the projects that are held up due to Sir~ ]and acquj~ition I can tell him. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYEll : we want to know a firm answer from the hon. DR. V. VENKATESH : Sir, I rise on Minister. (IlIterruptitJns) I am asking about a point of order. Karnataka. About 15 years ago, foundation stone was laid for this project. MR. SPEAKER: There is no point ( Interruptions) of order in Question Hour. There you are wrong. You are caught on the wrong Conver.i on ef Waste I.ad iato Prottable foot. Forestry

SHRI A. B. A. GHANI KHAN *148. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: CHOUDHURY : I wanted to inform the SHRI SARFARAZ AHMAD : House that there are variety of reasons. Sometimes there is equipment delay. Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleas- Sometimes there is funding problem. Now, ed to state: miscellaneous problems are there. It is not tbe land acqui~ition problem alone. (a) whether Indian Farmers' Fertiliser I do not think even a single project is there Co-operative Limited has undertaken a that you can point out for land acquisition scheme to convert wasteland in the country the project is held up except Koel Karo into profitable forestry as a pilot project; in Bihar. (b) if so, the names of States where DR. V. VENKATESH: Sir, he has such projects will be undertaken. said that there is a delay of 3 to 4 years. But particularly in Karnataka, what about (c) the estimated wasteland likely to be the Vijayanagar Steel Plant and what about utilised; and tbe ManpJore Refineries? Sir, he is misleadinl the House. (d) the funds allocated for the rI"terrupt io".) purpose? Mil. SPEAKER.: No, no. He said lot 4~' ~() pstatioll ~od tb,OK ar~ MARCH S, t986

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE have projection to involve voluntary or- MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND ganisations and this proposal of IFFCO is FORESTS (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): (a) a step towards that direction. The Indian Farmers Fertilizers Co-operative has drawn up project proposal for SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: What afforestation in 10 States. Identification is the total wasteland area available in our of States win be done after detailed techno- country as well as in Andhra Pradesh? economic feasibility studies are carried out. What are the programmes taken up in Final decision about th e details of the Andhra Pradesh with reference to the project bas not been taken. IFFCO and other voluntary organisations?

(b) States mentioned in the project SHRI Z. R. ANSARI: This is a proposal at present are: Andhra Pradesh, question pertaining to the specific proposal Bihar, Gujarat, Karnataka, Madhya which has been put forward by the IPFCO Pradesh, Maharashtra, Orissa, Rajasthan, for developing Group Cooperative Societies Uttar Pradesh and West Bengal. As for afforestation of the wasteland through mentioned in reply to part (a) of the the Group Cooperative Societies. question above, the final identification would be subject to techno-economic SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY feasibility studies. What is the extent of wasteland?

(c) The proposal aims at afforesting SHRI Z. R. ANSARI: About 50,000 50,000 hectares of wasteland in the seven hectares of wasteland have been proposed year phased programme. by the IFFCO.

(d) The requirement of funds depend MR. SPEAKER Some time back upon the technoeconomic feasibility studies all the details were gIven In a paper, how to be carried out in this beh alf, leading much wasteland was there in the whole to a DepatiJed Project Report. The country and how much was going to be allocation and sources of funds therefor reclaimed. can be considered only thereafter. Pre- sently, no funds have been allocated for the purpose. THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI RAJIY GANDHI):The hone Member has mention- SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: SIr, ed just a few minutes back, III his first afforestation is the prime need of the day. supplementary that he asked about the Day by day, forests are diminishing. The diversion or funds from forestry so that the bulk of the funds which are allotted for the forestry was not getting the requisite funds. purpose of afforestation has not been This is a very senous problem that we are utilisedJproperly-they have been diverted- having. It came up in a question a little thereby causing air-pollusion, etc. WIll whIle ago. Many projects that we start the hon. Minister kindly consider to In- from here and that we fund from here are volve some of the voluntary organisations handled by the State Governments them- both public and private sectors to take up selves, but we do not have adequate these programmes? Will the hone Minister means of monitoring whether the State also kindly consider taking up this affores- Governments are actually using that for tation programme prior to the establish- the projects and areas that the money is ment of an industry so that air-pollution designated for, and perhaps the hone is avoided and the industry can wen serve Member knows about Andhra and that is the country. I want a specific answer trom why he asked that question. the hone Minister. What are the afforesta- SHRI SARFARAZ AHMAD; When tion programmes which they are taking up was this programme drawn up by IFFCO other than the IFFCO ? and what are the tasks before the cooperatives ? SHRI Z.R. ANSARI: Sir, I am equally concerned with the deforestation in this SHRI Z. R. ANSARI: The proposal c;ounty and it is foJ," this purpose that we bas corne ffom IFFCO and ~tdin8 to 17 PHALGUNA 14, 1907 (SdKI4) 1.

the proposal they want to creat fuel wood matter with the State Governments irrespe- and timber plantation in 5000 hectares in ctive of the fact to which party the State each State in seven years in ten States Government belongs to. This is a matter and the project period is seven years. Tbe in which we are not concerned with tbe production of fuel wood and timber would party affiliations of the State Government. commence from the 8th year and fodder Where that sort of thing takes place, we will be produced from the very first year take strong action, and as I said, no less a onwards. The implementing agency for person than the Prime Mtnister has addre- this project would be IFFCO and the ssed all the Chief Ministers of the States cooperative societies will be organised and for taking care of the forests. they will take care of the afforestation in tbe local areas. This, in a nutshell, is the Installation of Super Compaters project of IFFCO for afforestation of the wasteland. *151. SHRI AKHTAR HASAN: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to SHRI PRATAP BHANU SHARMA: state: The Government is giving priority for the afforestation and recently it has consituted (a) whether the areas where super the National Wasteland Development computers are proposed to be installed Board. I would like to know from the have since been identified; hon. Minister whether the Government would consider afforestation project jointly (b) if so, the details thererore; and sponsored by the National Wasteland Deve- lopment Board and the public sector orga- (c) the particular use which these nizations, 8pecially those who are in the computers are proposed to be put to with- field of fertilizer, paper and forest based out disturbing the employment potential in industries, and who are conducting the those areas ? techno-economic feasibility studies. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SHRI Z. R. ANSARI: The techno- MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- economic feasibility will be done by the NOLOGY & IN THE DEPARTMENTS experts. As I have already told this august OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATO- MIC ENERGY, ELECTRONIC AND House, this proposal is a step forward to involve the pub1ic organizations and public SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) and (b) Yes, Sir. There are numerous undertakings as also encourage coopera- areas of Science and Technology where tive movement. This. in a nutshell, is the super computers are essential. purpose of this proposal. (c) Applications identified for super SHRI DINESH GOSW AMI: The computers can be performed only on com- Government has shown its concern for puters of this range. Such processinS of deforestation which we all welcome. But information cannot be done manually. has it come to the notice of the Govern- Therefore, the usage of these computers ment that there are many State& where will not affect the employment potential forests are being inundated resulting in in these areas. total ecological imbalance and in some of those States, the same party, which is [Trans/ation) ruling the country, is also there ? May I SHRI AKHTAR HASAN : Mr. Spea- know if the Central Government has taken ker, Sir, I want to know whether installa- up the matter with the State Governments tion of these computers wil1 not add to concerned, and what steps are being taken the Government expenditure and whether to see that such inundation of forests does t hey will render any benefit to the common not taken place '1 man by reducing hurdles in the Govern- ment work '] SHRI Z. R. ANSARI: This is worry- jq us most and no Jess a person than the SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL : The Prime Ministe( ba, hitnse)f tak~n u\, the eOn'll'utO{$ will not add to the oxpenditure; It Oral ilfnf",rs 1iJARCH ~, tH6 on the contrary the expenditure will be These computers will be used for t>eaceful reduced and the quality of work will purposes and these will also be used for impro,,"e which in turn will also benefit the purposes which will help our economy. common man. SRRI INDRAJIT GUPTA; He has The computers are used for weather not replied to my question. I asked, in that forecast and for complicated scientific case, how many such computers they have calculations. After this is done, expendi- contracted to buy ? ture will go down on the one hand and on the other hand, the quality of work will }\'IR. SPEAKER Only one. also improve. SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: What is (English) the cost, I asked. They don't tell us. Se- condly, he himself said in his reply, now SIlRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Sir, it is naturally this type of high technology reported in t he press that recently there computer, they do not want to give to the has been an agreement between our other countries. So what are those Government and the Government in the assurances on the basis of which, they United States regarding the purchase of a have at last agreed to give it to them? super computer by India. Americans have agreed to sell one super computer of some MR. SPEAKER: That is what he has particular type perhaps, to India, which saId. they were not willing to sel) previously. According to the press reports, they have now agreed on the basis of some assuran- SHRI SHIVRAJ V. 'PATIL: As far ces given to them regarding the use to as the cost is concerned, It is being nego- which this super computer will be put to tiated and until the negotiation is over, It in India and secondly the technology invo- is dIfficult for me to give the cost. lved will not be permItted to be diverted or leaked out to any other Government or to SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: What are any other power. I wouIe> like to know the assurances on the basis of which they from the Minister, because the House have now agreed to give something which should be taken into confidence, whether tbey were not willing to give earlier? these reports are substantially correct; whether one super computer which appa- SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: I have rently has never been sold to any develop- explained the points which have been put- ing country is going to be purchased by forth in such matters. But as the negotia- us; if so, the cost of the computer; the use tions are going on the final word on these to which it is going to be put to; and the points can be gIven only when the negoti- reported assurances that we have given on ations are completed. the basis oi which, the earlier reluctance and hesitancy on the American side has MP. SPEAKFR : Shri Reddy. been dispelled. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: It has SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: We are also been reported in the press that they getting one super computer and it will be have approached the Government of used for reading monsoon and weather Japan lOT the purchase of Super-Com- condi tions. NaturalJy, super computers puters. If so what is the stage of nego- involve sophisticated technologies, techno- tiations '1 The Minister just now referred logies that are ultimate in those areas. The to the negotiations. But in the earlier manufacturers of such computers and the part, he has said that the Goverrlrnent had producers of such technologies do not want agreed to purchase. So if the negotia- that they should be given to other count- tions are not complete and. . . ries. Such conditions are always there (Interrupt ion.) whenever they enter into contracts with MR. SPEAKER: The agreement is Governments for equipment and for gad- on tbe prinCiple of purchase. That is all. aets under technologies of ultimate nature. ( Inlerrupttons) 21 t-HALGUNA 14, 1907 (SAkA) Oral Answeh

SHij,I SHIVRAJ V. PATIL: Super- IMPLEMENTATION be pleased to state: Computers arc not easily available in the international markets. They are at present (a) the number and names of the States available in USA. In Japan also, they are which have fulfilled the targets fixed under developing and if they are available from various items of 20-Point Programme; Japan, we have tried to see that there is an opening for the procurement of these (b) the number and names of the Computers from Japan also. So, in the States which failed to do so and the reasons agreement which we have entered into thereof; and with some of the companies in Japan, we have said they are developed. They would (c) the first three States which have be considered. But whether we are going performed well during the period from to take it from them or some other coun- September, 1985 to January, 1986? tries, it depends on our willingness and on our readiness at that point of time. THE MINISTER OF PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI A.B.A SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL GHANI KHAN CHOUDHURY): (a) Mr. Speaker, Sir, is there any proposal and (b) While different States have fulfilled before the Government that Super-Com- targets under different items of the 20- puters can be utilised for the better water Point Programme, no State has been able management, so that we can conserve the to do so for all the items. The main water and can feed more irrigation to reasons for shortfalls appear to be inade- more areas? quate in restructuraJ facilities and administrative arrangements. States have also reoO SHRJ SHIVRAJ V. PATIL : These ported various other reasons for non- Super-Computers are meant for ver)'-very achievement of targets. These include: complicated calculations. Calculations which involve 50 digits. As far as the -Difficulties in regard to land acquisi- management of the water is concerned, tion including forest land; some simple computers can certainly be -Shortage of funds; used and if we use the simple computers for allowing water ;rom the Dam to flow -Shortage of construction material; into the main canal and from canal to the field for controlling the flow of water -Difficulties in the identification of old from the distributories into the field, the beneficiaries for second dose of water can be conserved and it can be assistance etc. etc. supplied in such a fashion that we can get better yield and we can protect the (c) The first three States at the end of soil also. September, 1985 were Himachal Pradesh, Gujarat and Punjab and at the end oi Now these are not the computers of January, 1986, they were Himachal Pradesh such a nature which can be used for Punjab and Haryana. irrigation contol purposes. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : He SHRI S.G. GHOLAP: Mr. Speaker, wants to know indirectly whether it can Sir, this Twenty Point Programme is for the be used for sugar industry. benefit of the poor and they generally relate to forest areas, for the h!lly areas SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL Some and also the backward areas. In back- micro-processors are used in some sugar ward or hilly areas, the reserve forest is industries. 900/0; and land is not made available. So, what steps will be taken by Govern- ment to give forest land for this purpose, i.e. to give it for irrigation, electricity and *152. +KUMARI MAMATA roads to the beneficiaries from Govern- BANERJEE: ment? What are the directives? A~ prt- S~~I S,.G. GHQLAP: sent, land is not made available. It takes Will the Minister of PROGRA~E at least 2 to 3 years to set the forest land. 21 MAllCfl j, 1986

So, what steps will Government take to States do not give the requisite details when make land available early ? first they send their actual applications. SHRI A. B. A. GHANI KHAN CHOUDHURY: These are executed by The other thing that we have done is the States; and whenever the State Gover- to allow States to take land, if an equi- ment seeks any assistance (Interruptions) valent area of land adjoining another forest area IS avaIlable, and they arc willing in this regard, we render it. But with to re-forest it. Then we do an exchange regard to forest land ... (InterruptiolU) on that baSIS, and try not to block any MR. SPEAKER: Why don't you proJect. listen ? Let him finish. What is thIs ? SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU: The SHRI A. B. A. GHANI KHAN 20-point programme which has been brou- CHOUDHURY: With regard to the for- ght by our mother IndIra Gandhi ••• est land, the recent order of the Pnme Minister is that unless the extent of forest THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI land is again compensated, nobody wIll be RAJIY GANDHI): Can I just correct allowed to take the forest land. These something WhICh I said? 2,100 are not the arc the present orders. cases that are pendIng, but the total number of cases that we have receIved. And out of that, only 83 are with and.59 I do not know why the hone Member us, for less than one month is saying that the 20-point programme IS only for hill areas and particular regions. The 20-point programme is for the entire SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: country. If he wants to know the fate ot From Andhra Pradesh, projects hke PoJa- the 20-point programme, i.e. what are the varam, Telugu Ganga and Ichampalh are pendIng clearance. regions which have fulfilled the condItIons }OO%, I can name them; and what are DR. V. VENKATESH : There are long the regions which have not been able to pending projects relating to Karnataka. fulfil th~ condition in respect of l00~~ What has the Pnme MInIster to say about items. them? (Intel'ruption6 ) MR. SPEAKER: Targets? MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Members, SHRI A. B. A. GHANI KHAN thIS IS not the way. Now Mr. Kolandaivelu. CHOUDHURY: I will not be able to answer the question of the gentJeman be_ SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU: The cause it does not concern any particular 20-pOint programme IS a very Important hill region, or a particular region Of a programme whIch had been brought State. If he asks me about the States I in by our mother, Indirajl, for the uplift- will satisfy him. ' ment of the poor and the down-trodden .. Here, as far as States are concerned, funds are beIng allocated every year for the THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI implementation of the 20-point programme. RAJIV GANDHI) : If I may add just a There are States which are doing more few words : It is saId that there have been than the target, that IS, If it is 100 per cent, a lot of cases he1d up for c1earance from they are domg 115 per cent. There are the Department of Environment. We have some States· which are not Implementing streamlined the procedure in the Depart- the 20-point programme at all; even IS per ment of Environment, and now there cent of the programme they are not imple- are very few cases which are pending with menting, but there are States which are the Centre. There are a total of 2100 implement 109 the 20-point programme cases pending. In the Centre, with us there more than the target fixed for them. Is are only 83 cases. And out of these 83 there any proposal to divert the funds cases, only ~9 case~ are less than one which are under-utilized by the States to month old. So, we have streamlined the the States which are doin~ more than. the procedure. The problem comes when the tariet? PHA1.0UNA 14, 1907 (SAKA)

SHR.I A.B.A. GHANI KHAN SHRI RAJIV GANDHI: We have CHOUDHURY: As you know, under the started a very extensive monit oring of the 2()..point programme, there are various 20-point programme to see how the imple- items to be implemented. There is hardly mentation is taking plac e. I think, last any State that has implemented a 11 the week, in this House, I had given some items of the 20-point programme. details of what they are doing. The question of diverting fund from one State SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU The to another has not been taken up yet with Prime Minister can very well reply it. regard to the 20·point programme, but on major projects, we are trying to see where MR. SPEAKER He has already the States are not able to use the alloca- replied. tion. We do not waste the allocation, but give it to States for projects where they SHRI A. B. A. GHANI KHAN are utilizing them better so that projects CHOUDHURY: You wil1 find that there do not get delayed. is not even a single State which has implemented 100 per cent programme under the Role of Planning Authority for Metro 2O-point programme. Authorities

SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU: 1n the *153. SHRI D.N. REDDY: Will case of bio-gas plant, Tamil Nadu have the Minister of PLANNING be pJeased to done it un~er the 20-point programme. state :

MR. SPEAKER : In certain sections, (a) whether a recent Task Force of it has been done, not the whole. the Planning Commission has recommended the role of Planning Authority for SHRI A. B. A. GHANI KHAN existing metro-a uthorities; CHOUDHURY : Due to scarcity of fund, it is not true that the 20-point programme (b) whether Government also propose is not implemented. What I am suggest- to consider substitution of metro-authori- ing is that for each item, for example, in- ties by metro-governments in order to fully tegrated rural development programme, integrate development and management national rural employment programme, tasks; and rural land-less employment guarantee programme, surplus land, different States (c) the present status of the proposal have different position. That is why it is at (a) above? very difficu1t to say about it. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Somebody THE MINISTRY OF PLANNING has to translate the reply of the Minister. (SHRI A. K. PANJA) : (a) Yes, Sir.

MR. SPEAKER: You must try to (b) There is no such proposal under adjust it. Don't read everything to others? consideration of the Government. (c) As Housing and Urban Develop- SHRI A. B. A. GHANI KHAN ment is a state subject, it is for the State CHOUDHURY: I can mention the Governments to bring about a cbanae in Dumber and name of the States whose the management of metropolitan cities. The performance is 100 per cent. I can also Task Forces reports are already available name the States whose performance is with the State Governments. below 100 per cent. Now9 the hon. member wants to know the States whose SHRI D.N. REDDY: I would like performance is excellent; that means to know why the Government had not achievement is 100 per cent. We give them agreed to the proposal of the P1annina ranking-no. 1, no. 2, no. 3. No special Commission which is in the interests of money is allotted; money is allotted as per decentralisation and eirec:tive functio!lirt& the 2O-point programme for each State. of the existing metropolitan authorities allCl the reasons therefor. Why ha\'e you not (a) whether Public Institutions and agreed with the Planning Commission? State Governments have agreed with the recommendations of the Backward Classes SHRI A.K. PANJA: So far as the Commission (MandaI Commission) floated Planning Commission's recommendations for eliciting public opinion; and are concerned, four Task Forces were formed, one for planning. one for financing (b) jf so, the details thereof? and another for management and the last for shelter for the urban poor and the sl~m THE MINISTER OF STATE OF dwehers. The reports of these task forces, THE MINISTRY OF WELFARE (DR. when received, were sent to the States RAJENDRA KUMARI BAJPAI): (a) because this is a State subject, for their and (b): The Central Government had reactions to it. Those reactions were decided to elicit public opinion on the taken into consideration in the Seventh list 01' Other Backward Classes prepared Plan Document and feasibly recommen- by the Mandal Commission. The mod- dations of these task forces were incor- alities for eliciting such opinion were under porated in the Document. considera tion.

Out of 12 metropolitan cities we find Meanwhile, in the light of the position that Calcutta and Delhi are executing obtaining in certain parts of the country as authorities and also the planning authori- a result of anti-reservation and pro-reser- ties. Madras and Bombay are vation agitations.. HOlne Minister had only the planning authorities addressed Chief Ministers in May, 1985 and not the executing authoriqes. to consider the suggestion to maintain And then it wa s commented upon by the status-quo till the emergence of national Task Forces that the authority should be consensus, on reservations for Other Back- only for Planning and execution should be ward Classes and most of the Chief Minis- left to the respective municipality concer- ters have agreed to the suggestion. Detail- ned. ed factual information on various aspects of reservations had been caned for from SHRI D.N. REDDY Sir, is it not all States and U .Ts. for use in discussions a rae t that the traffic system in Bombay on the question of national consensus and and Delhi has been funCtioning well? And information received has been compiled. if so, why should it not be extended to other departments such as Civil Supplies, [Translation] etc? It will be a great deterrent for food adultaators and the States also may be SHRI D.P. Y ADA V A Mr. Speaker, persuaded to adopt these methods by hav- Sir, I am quoting what the hon. Home ing a proper legislation, if necessary, be- Minister had said in the House on 19th cause it will be useful to the public. August, 1983 :

SHRI A. K. PANJA : This is a ques- "Besides, I have also said that we tion on Urban Development, mainly for are giving this report a sympa- municipal authorities. Regarding food thetic consideration and that we adulteration and others, there are other shall implement it. This is another laws which are being implemented. thing to what extent it will be implem~ntedH . MR. SPEAKER: Next question. This assurance was given by the Horne Reaction of State GovernmeaU to Mandai Minister in the Hquse. 5 years 2 months CommhsioD Report and 5 d~ys have passed since tl\e MandaI Co~ission Report was submitted,·f • but no ·154. +SHRI D.P. YADAVA national cons~n~U$ has so far been evol- SHRI It.S. KHIRHAR : ved. Will the hon. Minister sta.te tb~ time Will ~ M.nistcr of WELFARE be by w)ich a natioQal cO..Q$~.nsus wHl 'be pl.. ,ed to state; evolved 7 "'f't''''~' PHALOUNA f4, 1901 (SAlCA) Written Anlwn.

DR. ltAJENDR.A KUMAR BAJPAI : (a) whetber Government propose to So far as the question of evolving national make a dummy complex route in Delhi consensus is concerned, work in that direc- Cantonment area for rehearsals of Re- tion is being dbne. After the Home public Day Parade to avoid traffic disru- Minister made the statement in the House, ption and consequent hardship to school letters were again written to all the chief children, hospital patients, office goers etc; Mihisters of the States and their comments and were sought. The Hon. Prime Minister also held talks with the Opposition leaders (b) if so, the proposed route? in August. All the relevant figures have been sought from the States. They have THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE been asked to state as to how the work is DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE RE- being done in their respective States and SEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT (SHRI) what kind of policy and rules they have ARUN SINGH) (a) No, Sir. framed. The information regarding the percentage of reservation is pouring in (b) Does not arise. from the State.,. It is very difficult to say whether a decision in this regard would be [TranI/a/ion] taken within two to four months. Opening of New Branch Recruitment Offices

*149. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: WHJ WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state : [~nglish] (a) whether a deci~ion has been taken Report on CorruptioB charges against to open some new Branch Recruitment Haryana Chief Minister. Offices during 1985-86 for recruitment to the army; *143. SHRI H.M. PATEL: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pIea~ed to state: (b) If so, their proposed locations;

(a) whether the report of Justice Jas- (c) whether these Branch Recruitment want Singh enquinng into the corruption Offices have been formally opened ; and charges against Haryana Chief Minister has been processed and considered by (d) if not, the reasons for the delay? Government ; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, what follow ... up action has DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE RE- been taken/is being taken in this regard? SEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT (SHRI ARUN SINGH) (a) and (b) Yes, Sir. Government have decided to open Branch THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Recruiting Offices at Amethi and Pithora- MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC garh. GRIEV ANCES AND PENSIONS (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): (a) and (b) Shri (c) and (d) Steps are under way for Justice Jaswant Singh7 in his report sub- raising the new Branch Recruiting Offices mitted to the Government, has concluded and making them operational by 1st June, that there is no prima facia case against 1986. Shri ~hajan La} and his close relatives. The report is being processed. {EnrJish1

Route to Republic naY Parade Rebearsilis Silletm TedlaaoloU *150 SHRI AMAL DATTA: Will *145. SHRI MANIK REDDY: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to pleased to the Minister of PEFENCE be .§tate : itatc ~ )t MARCH 5, 1916 32

(a) ~hether the Prime Minister ,ave up by the Mettur Chemicals. H an assurance that indigenous technology will be given a chance for production Qf Mett ur Chemicals UsiDa indigenous te- ,Uicon ; chnology was given a Letter of Intent for production of silicon in 1979 and Indust- (b) whether it is a fact that despite rial Licence in March 1982, which was sLlch assurance money has been paid to vaild till March 1984. It was extended till Hemlock Co. of U.S.A. for acquIsI- March 1986. tion of technology and if so, how much has been paid and when ; So far, Hemlock Semiconductor Cor- poration of USA have been paid US • (c) what is the estimated total cost 670,OOO/-in March 1985 and US S of the Hemlock Collaboration Project for 1~675,OOO/-in February 1986, towards ac- the National Silicon Facility at Baroda quisition of technology. and Indian Institute of Science/Mettur Project; (c) and (f) Comparison of estimated (d) what is the estimated annual de- cost of the project and price of product mand for Silicon as of today and in ] 990 ; from plants based on imported technology and indigenous technology will be available (e) whether the plant proposed by after the evaluation of the results achieved Mettur Co. is capable of 20 M.T., if not by the production unit of Mettur Chemi- what is the estimated capacity; and cals (now Metken Silicon), who have informed on 3rd March 1986 that "Resu1ar (0 how does the national Silicon faci- power supply gi\,en on February 28 by lity (Hemlock) technology produced !)ihcon Tamil Nadu State Electricity Board. Start- price compare with Mettur/IS1 technology up works proceeding smoothly. H produced, silicon and with International silicon price ? International price of poly-silicon not only varies with quality and quantity of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the requirement but also with the nature MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- of contract i.e. spot, short-term and long NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- term. Prices last year ranged between US MENT, OF OCEAN DEPARTMENT $ 45 to US $ 68 per kg of poJysilicon. ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECT- RONICS AND SPACE. (SHRI SHIVRAJ (d) Requirement of equivalent polysili- PATIL) : (a) and (b) Government de. v. con in 1985, based on demand for import cision on silicon technology tabled in of silicon registered With the Department Parliament on March 14, 1985 is as follow· , of Electronics, was around 35 metric tonnes. Estimated annual demand in 1990 "The Government have taken the based on indications by the users, i~ decision to enter into an agree- around 200 tonnes. ment with the Hemlock Semi- conductor Corporation. USA (e) Mettur Chemicals have designed after a careful a ssessment of the their plant for an annual capacity of 22.5 present stage of the techno-economic viability and cost effectiveness metric tonnes of poJy-silicon. of the indigenously developed process. At the same time, the Go- Confiscation .r p •••ports vernment will give the fullest su- port to the efforts for the deve- *155. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS lopment of indigenous process on Win the Minister of EXTERNAL a commercial scale, and the AFFAIRS be pleased to state: investment decision in regard to the National Silicon Facility will (a) whether it is a fact that the reaio- be taken only after evaluating the nal passport offices at various centres have result a achieved by the produ- been conficastins passports of Indian ction unit of 25 TPA beina set citizens; and I Written Answers PHALGUNA 14, 1907 (SAKA.) Written Ann,er.

(b) if so, in how many cases such passports had been impounded/revoked passports were confiscated during the past under specific sub-sections of Section 10(3) six months (June-December, 1985) all over of the passports Act, 1967 which provide the country; the reasons therefor? grounds for impounding/revoking of passports. A statement containing a list of the THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL passports impounded/revoked under each AFFAIRS (SHRI B.R. BHAGAT) (Yes, sub-section indicating grounds on which Sir. these were impounded/revoked is liven below. (b) 1276 impounded/revoked. All these Statement Passport office Number of Pas.portl impouoded/re,oked durioK JUDe-December- 1985 aDder section :

10 (3) (a) 10 (3) (b) 10 (3) (c) 10 (3) (e) 19 (3) (h) (Wrongful posse- (Suppression (Prejudicial to (Criminal (Summons! s. No, ssion of pass- of material the interests of cases warrant of port) information soverignity pending arrest e. g. already integrity, & in a court pendiq) possessing a security of of law) passport) India)

1. Ahmedabad 2. Bangalorc 6 3 3. Bareilly 5 4. Bhopal 1 5. Bhubneswar 6. Bombay 1 24 1 7. Calcutta 1 2

8. Cochin 546 5 9. Chandigarh 62 15 3 10. Delhi 2 1 11. Guwahati 12. Hyderabad 12 1 1 13. Jaipur 230 14. Jalandhar 139 2 15. Kozhikoda 14 1 2 16. Lucknow 17. Madras 18. Patna 2 19. Srinagar 4 20. Tiruchirapali 182 7 1 21- Vijaywada

1 1219 27 25 3S W,itten An~wer, MARCH S, 191(; Written An,wer" 36

Procuremeut of Blankets Propolal t. Raise Age Limit for Central Governmeot Service *156. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI : Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to *158. SHRI AJOY BISWAS : Will state : the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : (a) the reasons for not introducing blankets developed by the Shoddy Industry (a) whether Government have any which have du1y been approved by the proposal to raise the age limit for entering Research and Development Wing of the service under Central Government to 35 Defence Ministry ; years; and

(b) price of 'A" Type blankets being (b) if so, what steps the Government paid to private manufacturers, British have taken in this respect? India Corporation and National Textile Corporation ; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC (c) whether blankets other than 'A' GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS (SHRI type have been acquired from BIC, NTC/ P. CHIDAMBARAM) (a) No, Sir. other Government units; and (b) Does not arise. (d) total quantum of blankets in arrears against orders placed and not yet supplied? State CouDcils for Science and Technology THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE RE- *159 SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK : SEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT (SHRI Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to ARUN SINGH) : o(a) to (d) The infor- state : mation is being col!ected and ~ 111 be placed on the Table of the House. (a) the number of States and Union T erlltones which have established State Special Flying Squads for Women Councl1 for Science and Technology; and (b) the role chalked out for these ·157. SHRI ANAND SINGH: Will CouncIls dunng the Seventh Five Year the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be plea- Plan period ? sed to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether special flying squads to MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH· speedily respond to calls by women in di s- NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- tress and by women's organisations, are MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, proposed to be set up in Delhi; and ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS r (b) if so, the detaIls of the scheme & SPAC (SHRI SHTVRAJ V PATIL) : and the steps so far taken for Implemen- (a) NIn:;'c~n States, Eight Lmon Terri- ting it ? tories and the North Eastern Region have set up State Councils for Science and THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFA- Technology. IRS (SHRI S. B. CRA VAN): (a) and (b) Recently the Department of Women's (b) The State Councils are envisaged Welfare, Ministry of Human Resources to help in :- Government of India, has recognised' four natIonal level voluntary organisations 1. Formulation, planning co-ordina- to assist wonlen in distress, under the pro- tion and promotion of S&T acti- visions of the Dowry Prohibition (Amend- vities in the States. ment) Act, 1984. Further, a Crimes 2. Preparing State S&T Plans. against Women Cell has been set up in Delhi police to deal exclusively with offien 3~ Compilation and dissemination of ~s aaainst WOmcB.. S~T \nformatioQ. PHALGUNA 14, 1907 (St4KA) 38

4. Popularisation of Science. (a) whether it is a fact that both the ElectronIcS Commission and the Planning Meetiolof National Wastelands Council Commission were keen on applying the microprocessor technology to vitaJ areas *160. SHRI DIGVIJAY SINGH: like agriculture medicine, communications, Will the PRIME MINISTER be pJeased steel and mines, tests and measuring inst- to state: ruments and industrial controls etc~

(a) whether at the meeting of the (b) if so, how much will be the National Land Use and Wasteland Deve- Indian participation in the whole pro- lopment Council held on the 6th February gramme; 1986, a discussion was held on excessive unproductive cattle being the cause of (c) whether the country has the neces- wasteland formation; sary infrastructure for this purpose; and

(b) what strategies have been (d) if not, whether efforts will be adopted by the National Board for Waste- made to develop the necessary infrastruc- land Development and Land use conser .. ture within the time schedule? vation to combat this problem; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) the inlpact thereof? MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART .. MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS RAJIV GANDHI): (a) and (b) Yes, AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. Sir. PATIL) : (a) Yes, Sir. The Department of Electronics has launched a project on (c) One of the objectives of National Microprocessor Application Engineering Land Use Policy that was discussed at Progranlme to pronlote the microprocessor the meeting of the COllncil on February 6, technology in agriculture medicine, com- 1986, was: munication, Steel and Mines, test and measuring instruments and industrial "To restructure the livestock control. For productivity improvement in production programme in such a agriculture through appropriate use of manner that the livestock popula- electronics, the Government is eXamInIng tion is gradually limited to econo- the feasibi lity of using portable micropro- mically productive stock and to cessor based kits for measuring soil chara .. prevent degradation of grassland cteristics, moisture content of seeds, etc. and by promoting in increasing The possibility of making available such measures stall feeding of live- portable equipment to the educated self- stock in rural areas." employed is being explored so that they can promote the application of this tech- The recommended strategy initiative nology through individual cont act with proposed by the National Land Use Conse- and comprehensive service to farmers. rvation Board in this behalf that was adopted was the launching of Sp~cial (b) The Department of Eletronics Fodder Development Programme in select- has projected a total outlay of Rs. 18 ed blocks, together with Livestock Deve- crores for this programme for the 7th lopment Programme which concentrates Plan. on the popularisation of stall feeding in (c) Yes, Sir. rural areas. (d) Does not arise. Micropro('essor Technology [Translation] India's Assistance to Maldi'ffs +J61. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: *162. SHRI BANWARI LAL Will the PRIME MINISTER be 'pleased BAIRW A: Will the Minister of EXTER~ t. state c : NAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state tac ~ MAtCH S, 1986 details of assurances given by the Prime ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS MiDister during his recent visit to Maldives AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. for providing assistance to that island in its PATIL) : (a) Yearwise share of consumer development activities ? electronics in the total electonics production during Sixth Five Year Plan is given THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL below: AFFAIRS (SHRI B. R. BHAGAT): During Prime Minister's recent visit to Year Maldives, it was agreed that bilateral Percentage econonic relations between the two countries will be intensified and expanded. As 1980-81 2.75 part of this cooperation, India will provide 1981-82 29.4 assistance for the setting up of a medical complex in Male which will include a 200- 1982-83 29-4 bed General Hospital, a Coronary Care Unit and a Nurses Training Centre. 1983-84 27.3 India will also set up a Hostel Training Institute and will provide assistance to 1984-85 31.9 Maldives in developing telecommunications, reception of meteorological data and rece- (b) In the electronics production tar- ption of television programmes. India will get of Rs. 31420 crores over the entire depute more doctors and teachers to the Seventh Five Year Plan period, the share Maldives and will provide educational and of Consumer electronics is placed at 20.3~~ training facilities to Maldivian students in and nOD-consumer electronics products it India. For the long-term, India will assist is 79.7~{,. in strengthening training institutes in the Cleaning of Ganga for Kumbb Mela at Maldives itself. Prime Minister also offered to gift some desalination plants newly Hardwar de~'eloped in India. On the cultural side, India bas agreed to help in the preserva- 1410 DR. B. L. SHAILESH: Will the tion and restoration of Hukuru Mosque PRIME MINISTER be pleaced to state : and other historical monuments in Mal- dives. (a) the measures taken so far to spruce up the Hardwar pilgrim centre [Bn,lish] under the Ganga Action Plan for the ensuing Kumbh mela; CORso.er Electronic Goods Output (b) the eApenditure incurred thereon -163 SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Will so far; and the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (c) the progress made in simi Jar cleaning of the Ganga at Allahabad Sangam, (a) the share of consumer electronic another pilgrim centre? goods output in total electronic goods output during Sixth Plan period year-wise; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI) : (a) (b) the shares of consumer electronic The emphasis of the schemes taken up in goods and non-consumer electronic goods the Hardwar-Rishikesh Complex is to in the targeted output of electronic prevent the flow of waste water into the products during t he Seventh Plan river. The steps taken so far are as period? foHows : THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE (i) Repair/Renovation of existing MINISTR Y OF SCIENCE AND TECH- Pumping Stations. NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, (ii) Construction of new Pumpin, PHALGUNA !4, i9O? (sAKAi

Stations near important nullahs. Military Station at Hosbiarpor Di.trict of Punjab (iii) Renovation of Sewers. 1412. PROF. NARAIN CHAND (iv) Laying of Intercepting Sewers. PARASHAR: Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state: (v) Construction of new gu lly Pits and Repair of existing gully Pits. (a) whether it is a fact that Govern- ment have decided to set up a military (b) An expenditure of about Rs. 1 station at Hoshiarpur District of Punjab; crore bas been incurred for the schemes in and the Complex, out of which an expenditure of Rs. 42.04 )akho;; is for Schemes in (b) if so, the likely date by which Hardwar town. land would be acquired for this purpose and the name of Tehsiljsub-Tehsil in which it would be acquired ? (c) At Allahabad, the bulk of the waste water from the existing sewerage system goes to Gaughat from where it is THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE pumped across the Yamuna river to the DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE RE- Naini Sewage Farm. The renovation of SEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT (SHRI Gaughat Pumping Station at an estimated ARUN SINGH :. (a) Yes, Sir. ccst of Rs. 1.6 crores has been taken up to improve the pumping facili1 y and to (b) Action is in hand to select suita- prevent over flow of waste water into the ble land for the Military Station in con- river. sultation with the State Government. It is not possihle at this stage to indicate the exact location or the likely date of acqui- L.T.C. Availed of by Government sition of land. Employees Opening of S.inik S('hools in Kerafa 1411. SHRI LAKSHl\1AN f\,1ALLICK Win the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to 1413. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- state the amount Government paid duri ng CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of the last two years towards Leave Travel DEFENCE be pleased to state: Concession to their employees "'or journey by train and bus separately? (a) whether his Ministry have any programme to make the youth more aware THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of the opportunities in the field of Defence. MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC if so, details thereof; and GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): Leave Travel (b) whether Government propose to Concession bills submitted by Government open more Sainik Schools in the most employees are passed by authorities com- literate and over-populous State of petent to pass the T .A. Bills and such Kerala? authorities are located in various offices of the Central Government throughout India. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE The expenditure incurred on Leave Travel DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE RE- Concession is not centrally monitored by SEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT (SHRI the Department of Personnel & Training. It ARUN SINGH) :(a) Yes, Sir. The youth is a Iso not possible to colJect and com pi Ie of the country are made aware of the the information relating to the amount paid opportunities in the Defence Services by Government dl1ring the last two years through effective publicity programmes, towards Leave Travel Concession for jour- exhibitions, Fauji Melas, special recruit- ney by train and bus separately as separate ment raJlies, motivational lectures in accounts are not maintained on the basis of schools and colleges, etc. mode of conveyance used by Government (b) A Sainik School is estabHshed on employees while availing of the concession. the specific request of a State Government 44

as the entire capital expenditure and a (a) the district-wise names of the major portion of the recurring expenditure places in Madhya Pradesh where National of the sehool has to be borne by the State Parks (sanctuaries) have been set up; Government. One Sainik School is already functioning in Kerala at Kazha- (b) the number and names of the kootam. No request has been received villages that fall within the area of each of from the Government 01 Kerala to open these National Parks; more Sainik Schools in the State. (c) whether any places have been Gas for Silicon Industry selected for the purpose of shifting these villages, which fall within the area of the 1414. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: national parks, to some other places and Will .. he PRIME MINISTER be pleased if so, the details of the facilities proposed to state: to be provided by Government to set up villages there; and (a) what is the requirement of gas for the silicon industry in the country; (d) the number of the villages proposed to be set up by 1986 at the places (b) whether the requirelnent of gas decided for the purpose and the names has been fully met by indigenous units; of such villages alongwlth the names of the ? (c) if not, the reasons therefor; SHes selected for thenl

(d) the quantum of gas imported for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE purpose and the amount of foreign ex- MiNISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND chanie involved yearly; and FORESTS (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI) (a) and (b) A statement is laid on (e) steps being taken to increase the the Table of the House. production of indigenous gas used in sili- [Placed in Library. See No. L.T-2167/ con industry in the country to save foreign 863] exchange?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) and (d) The area of settlement MINISTR Y OF SCIENCE AND and relocation of vil1ages is done in co- TECHNOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- operation and consultation with the Collec- MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, tors concerned. Alternatives such as land ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS and facIlities for cultivation and setting up AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. of new homes, are provided. The sites PATIL): (a) Gases required for silicon and number of villages to be set up cannot industry in the country are hydrogen, be given at present as this is dependent on argon, nitrogen and chlorine. the completion of settlement proceedings, now in progress. (b) Yes, Sir. [Engli~h] (c) Does not arise. Deer, Lions, Tigers and Elephants (d) Does not arise. in the Country

(e) Does not arise. 1416. SHRI ANANT A PRASAD SETHI: Will the PRIME MINISTER /TralUlation J be pJeased to state :

Setting up of National Parks in Madbya (a) the number or deer, lions, tigers Pradesh and elephants aJongwith those belonging to 1415. SHRI MANKDRAM SODI: white variety; Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased (b) whether the number 01 elephants to state: is decJinin, in the country; aDd 45 Written An,swera PHALfiUNA 14, 1907 (SAlU) Written Answer.

(c) if so, the steps Government have (a) whether it is a fact that TV com- taken to increase their number in the ponents are being imported by Electronics country? Trade and Technology Development Cor- poration Limited, lor use in T.V.; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND (b) whether it is also a fact that FORESTS (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI) ; Electronics Trade and Technology Deve- (a) No enumeration of deer popula- lopment Corporation Limited is facing tions has been conducted in the country problems since the television companies except in some parks and sanctuaries. The which register their demands with them population of lions found in the Gir forest do not lift the goods resulting in large of Gujarat, its only home in the wild, is inventory for the corporation; and 239 according to enumeration carried out in 1985. Lions in captivity are 107 of (c) if so, the va1:Je of the goods Indian origin -end ] 25 of mixed Indian/ accumulated and the steps Govern- African origin. The population of tigers ment propose to take in this recard ? according to enumeration done in 1984, is 4005. No white tiger are reported THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE currently in the wild. Their number in MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- different zoo'S of the country is 24. The NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- estimated number of wild elephant at pre- MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, sent is between 16,600 to 22,250, and of ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS captive ones between 19,500 and 25,375. AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ v. PATIL): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) The number of elephants is declining in some regions of the country while (b) and (c) Yes, Sir. This is true it is increasing in others. The total popu- in respect of 51 cms. Black & White picture lation is on th'! increase. tubes, whose stock is estimated presently around 1,70,000 nos. valued at Rs. 6.63 (c) Government have taken steps to crores (approximately). The stock of create national parks, sanctuaries, and Black and White TV picture tubes is being tiger reserves, and taking measures, distributed in such a manner that indigen- inter-alia, to educate and inform the peo- ous industry is also not affected and simple and to implement effectively the Wild ultaneously ET &T's stock is cleared as Life (Protection) Act, 1972 under which early as possible. the elephant is a completely protected animal. Increase in Strength of Paramilitary Promotion of Official Languages Forces

1417. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT- 1420. SYED SHAHABUDDIN : Will NAIK: Will the Minister of HOME the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be AFFAIRS be pleased to state the amount pleased to state : earmarked for the promotion of official languages during the Seventh Plan? (a) the total strength of the various paramilitary forces as on 1.1.86; and THE MINISTER OF HOME AFF- AIRS (SHRI S.B. eHA VAN) An amount of Rs. 2 crores has been earmarked for (b) the proposed increase of strength the promotion of officiaJ language during of each during 1986 ? the Seventh Plan. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Import of T. V. Components) DEPARTMENT OF INTERNAL SECU- RITY (SHRI ARUN NEHRU) : (a) The 1419. SHRI CHINTAMANI lENA: a uthorised number of operational battalions Will the PRIM;E MINISTER be pJeased a s on 1.1. 1986 is as under :- to stC'tc ; 47 Written Answer.r MARCH 5, 1986

BSF 85 Pakistani SpyR ina Busted 10 Rajastllaa Border CRPF 83 (inculding 12 under rais- 1422. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: ing) Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be Assam Rifles 25 (including 4 under pleased to state : raising) (a) whether the BSF has recently bus- ITB 10 ted Pakistani spy ring operating in the Rajasthan border areas and arrested at The CISF is structured on need based least three spies; pattern according to requirements of each undertaking and not on battalion basis and (b) if so, the details of the spy ring its strength as on 1.1.1986 is 52,579 person- and its modus operandi; and nel. (c) what steps have since been taken (b) Sanction has been issued for raising in the light of the findings and the investiga- additional battalions during 1986-87, as tion made into the matter ? detailed below :-

BSF 5 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERNAL SECU- Assam Rifles 4 RITY (SHRI ARUN NEHRU) : (a) to (c) On January 26, 1986 three Pakistani The strength of CISF is likely to be nationals were apprehended by the Border increased by about 2100 personnel during Security Force and the local police in 1986-87. District Sri Ganganagar. An Indian accomplice was also arrested. Adhwara River Project of Bihar In another case on January 31, 1986, 1421. SHRI ABDUL HANNAN two Pakistani nationaJs were apprehended ANSARI : Will the Minister of PLANN- by the Border Security Force in Ganga- ING be pleased to state: nagar District of Rajasthan. An IndIan national was arrested later in this case. (a) whether it is!J fact that Govern- nlent of Bihar has sent the proposal of Preliminary investigations indicate that Adhwara river project which flows through the Pakistani nationals had entered India the Madhubani and Darbhanga districts of for obtaining intelligence. North Bihar to the Ministry of Planning for approval; BSF patrolling has been strengthened in these and other areas. (b) if so, when approval is going to be liven; and Assent to Gujarat Private Pri•• ry Ed.ca- tional IustitutioDs Bill (c) if not, the reasons ,therefor? 1423. DR. A.K. PATEL: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SHRI HAROOBHAI MEHTA: MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI A.K. PANJA) : (a) Yes, Sir. Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (b) and (c) A view on the acceptance of the scheme by the Planning Commission (a) whether it is a fact that the Govern- will be taken after compliance of outstand- ment had received "Gujarat Private ing observations on the project Primary Educational Institutions BilP' on by the Ganp Flood Contra] Commission 6 January, 1984 but it is stiH lying under in consultation witJ.1 the State Government. consideration despite lapse of two years; 49 Written Answers PHALGUNA 14, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 30

(b) the steps, if any, required to be EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to taken by Government of Gujarat to state: expedite the approval to this BiB; and (a) whether it is a fact that one or (c) the reasons for not clearing the the Embassy personnel in Norway has Bill ? defected taking away with him a huge amount of money from the embassy fund; THE MINISTER OF HOME (b) if so, what action has been taken AFFAIRS (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): (a) by Government for its recovery; and No Bill of the nomenclature mentioned in the question was received. (c) whether Government have taken any immediate precautionary measures to prev- The Bombay Primary Education ent such occurrences in our other embassies (Gujarat Amendment) Ordinance, 1983 was in future? received on 6. 1.1984. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) and (c) The previous instructions MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS of the President for the promulgation of (SHRI K.R. NARAYANAN): (a) Shri the Ordinane have already been conveyed Harinder Singh, formerly First Secretary in to the State GovL on 25.2.86. our Mission in Oslo deserted on 19th June 1984 and took away with him some mone; Passport Office from the Embassy account. 1424. SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (b) The question of.recovery of the be pleased to state: funds embezzled was taken up with the Norweigian Foreign Office. As a result (a) how many passport offices are of discussions it was not considered advis- able to pursue this matter because it would working in the country; have involved the Mission inter aJia in long court proceedings. (b) whether there is any proposal io open new passport offices; and (c) Government have taken all possible precutionary measures to pre\'ent such (c) if so, the places where Government occurrances in our Embassje~ in the propo~e to open new passport offices? future. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS Proposal for Lompsum Payment in Lieu of (SHRI K.R. NARAYANAN) : (a) There Pension are 21 Passport Offices and 2 Liasion Offices under the control of the Ministry 1426. SHKI C. SAMBU: Will the of External Affairs, and two Passport PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: Offices manned by the Union Territory of Goa, Daman and Diu at Panaji, and (a) whether there is any proposal to Union Territory oc' Andaman, Nicobar pay 90 months basic pay in place of and Minicoy Islands at Port Blair respec- monthly pension to Central Government tively. pensioners including defence pensioners; and {b) No, Sir. (b) if so, whether the proposal bas been (C) Does not arise. referred to the Fourth Pay Commission? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DefectioD by Embassy PersoDoel in Norway MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC 1425. SHRI M.R. SAIKI A : GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM) : (a) No, Sir. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL : Will the Minister of (b) Does not arise. WI itlen A.nswers MAaCH 5, J986 Written Answ~r.s

Employment Opportunities for the Blind MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- 1427. SHRI P.R. KUMARAMAN- MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, GALAM : Will the Minister of WELFARE ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS be pleased to state : AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V· PATIL) : (a) and (b) There is no propo- (a) whether the new avenues of employ- sal to establish a Geo-Stationary Launch ment and rehabilitation opportunities have Vehicle Station at Valiamala. The liquid been opened up for the blind by National fuels required for launch vehicles are pro- Institute for the Visually Handicapped; duced by a number of industries in the country, partly based on the know-how (b) if so, details thereof; and developed by the Vikram Sarabhai Space Centre (VSSC), Trivandrum, of Indian (c) whether the scope will be extended Space Research Organisation. The main further throughout the country? activities now located in Valiamala relate to_ the Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (PSL V) Project and the Liquid Propulsion MINISTRY OF WELFARE (SHRI Systems Unit, besides a few technical divi- GIRIDHAR GOMANGO) : (a) Yes, Sir. sions and activities of VSSC. (b) The Institute has developed and Recommendations of High Level Committee introduced the fol1o\\ ing programmes on Ex-servicemen Problems (i) Stenography ior visua1ly handicapped; 1429 SHRI C. P. THAKUR: \Vill the Minister of DEFENCE be plea sed to Oi) Cutting and tailoring for visually state: handicapped women; (a) whether any representations have (iii) Placement of visually handicapped been received b)' Government from Nati· extrainess of the Institute in sub- onal Ex-servicemen Coordination Commit- ordinate posts in nationalised tee 10 regard to the certain anomahes in ban\:.s. the recommendations of the High Level Committee viz. counting of military service (c) The Institute has no plans to run for pay fixation, promotJon etc. on re- similar programmes in other parts of the employment; and country. However, if any voluntary organisation or State Government wants to adopt (b) if so, action taken by Govern- such programmes, the Ministry can assist ment in this regard? them. THE MINISTER OF STAl E IN THE Establishment of G.S.L.V. at VaJiamala, DEPAr-... '\ lENl C'F Dr: LI,ICE RE- Kerala SEARCH AND D~VELOPMENT (SHRI ARUN SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. 1428 SHRI SURESH KURUP: WiJl the PRI~v1E ~=l ~ISTER be p1eased to state : (b) The res presentations are against some of the recommendations of the (a) whether ISR 0 proposes to esta- High Level Committee on problems of Ex- blish a Geo-Stationary Launch Vehicle servicemen which have been accepted by Station (G.S.L.V) and a Liquid Fuel Deve- Government. However, the issues raised are ]opment Unit at Valiama]a, Nedumangad, being examined in consultation with the Kerala; and concerned ~1inistries to ascertain whether any change in the decisions of Govt. and (b) if so, the details thereof? consequent disregard of the recommendations of the High Level Committee would be justified, THE ~1INISTER OF STATE IN THE 504 Written Anawerl FHALGUNA 14. 1901 (SAKA) Written Answel'l 54

Purehale of woolen hlankets for ule of (a) to (c) According to the existing DefeDce Pel'soanel orders, only manuals codes, forms and statisticial pocket books are re- 1430. SHRJ KAMLA PRASAD q uired to be printed in diglot form and all SINGH: Will the Minister of DEFENCE Ministers/Departments have been advised be pleased to refer to th~ answer given to accordingly. Unstarred Question No. 530 on 20 Nove- mber, 1985 regarding purchase of woollen Violation of Forest (Conservation) Act, blankets for the u~e of defence pt:r "onnel 1980 by S:ates. and state: 1432. SHRI JAGANNATH PATT. (a) whether the purchase of ~l)ollen NAIK: Will the PRIl\1E MINISTER be blankets required by his Ministry wiJI be pleased to state : entrusted to the Central Government Employees Consumer Co-operat!ve Society (a) whether some cases have come to Ltd., New Delhi who have been charged the notice of Central Government WhCIC with the resposibility of making available the provision of th~ Forest (Conservation) all iteins of stationery and other items by Act. 1980 have been violated and forest a Government Order of 1981 to the lands have been put to some other uses Government offices; and without the prior approval of the Central Government ; (b) if not, reason::, therefor '? (b) if so, the names of such States THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE which have violated this Act dl'ring la~t DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE RE- three years ; and SEARH AND DEVELOPMENT (SHRI ARUN SINGH) : (a) No, SIr. (c) the details regarding the measures Central GOvernment propose to take in (b) Blankets for the Armed Forces this regard '? are normally procured from Ordnance Fac- tortes or through the DGS&D. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT A~D Government Publications to be in Diglot FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) form Yes, Sir.

1431. SHRI BAN\VARI LAL PURO- (b) Violations in the foHowing States HIT: Will the l\1inister of HOME' ha\'e come to the notice-Maharashtra, AFFAIRS be pleased to state : Madhya Pradesh. Uttar Pradesh, Himachal Pradesh, Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka, (a) whether it is a fact that the Tamil Nadu. Kerala, Orissa, and Gujarat. Central Government have issued orders that all Government publications lshould (c) The matter has been taken up with be brought out in diglot forn1 ; the State Governments. Monitoring of approved cases and of proposals received i~ a1so being done to check whether any (b) whether it is also a fact that in violations are taking place. spite of these orders. all Government publications are published separately in [Trans/at ion] Eng1ish and Hindi ; and Setting up of Engine Factory of Bharat (c) if so, what steps Government pro- Earth Movers in Sagar, Madbya Pradesh pose to take to implement the said orders 1433. SHRI NANDLAL CHOW- so that all Government pUblications DHAR Y : Will the Minister of DEFENCE are brought out in diglot ;orm only? be pleased to state:

THE MINISTER OF HOME (a) whet her land required fOor setting AFFAIRS (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN) : up of an engine factory of Bbarat Earth Movers Limited under the Ministry has (c) the time by which this scheme is been secured in Sagar (Madhya Pradesh) ; Hkely to be implemented? and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, the area of land so secured DEPARTMENT OF INTERNAL SECU- and the Jocation thereof? RITY (SHRI ARUN NEHRU) : (a) to (c) The Government have recently approved a THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE fi"e-year programme commencifig from DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE PRO- 1986-87 for strengthening surveillance along DUCTION AND DEFENCE SUPPLIES the Indo-Pak border. The programme in- (SHRI SUKH RAM) : (a) and (~) Appro- cludes strengthening the Border Security valor the setting up of an engme pl~nt Force, establishing additional border out- by BEML is yet to be accor~ed. In vIew posts, construction of observation post of this the question of secunng land for towers, providing increased mobility to the project does not arise. border patrols and equipping them with more sophisticated equipment. The expen- [Ellglish] diture on the programme would depend upon the budgetary allocations made during Anti-Defection Jaw for Local Bodies the respective year.

1434. PROF. MADHU DANDA- Introduction of EJectronics and Computers VATE : Will the Minister of HOME into Agricul ture Power and Railwpys AFFAIRS be pleased to state : 1436. SHRI' V. SOBHANADREES- (a) whether Union Government pro- WARA RAO: pose to advise the State Gover~ment too SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: take necessary steps for enacting antl- defection Law for the elected' members of Wil1 the PRIME MINISTER be plea- the 10cal bodies to prevent the poJitics of sed to state : piracy prevalent in these institutions ; (a) whether Government are keen to (b) if so, the details thereof; and introduce electronics and computers into agriculture, irrigation, power and railways (c) if not, the reasons therefor? to help achieve optimum production, optimum resource allocation and mobilisa- THE MINISTER OF HOME tion and improve efficiency in the system; AFFAIRS (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): (a) and to (c) No such proposal is presently under consideration of the Government. The (b) whether any specific proposals . subject matter is prinlarily the concern of have been finalised and implemented and the State Governments. if so, the results obtained?

Introduction of a New Scheme to keep a THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Watch on Indo-Pak Borders MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- 1435. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, TRIPATHI : WiJl the Minister of HOME ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS AFFAIRS be pleased to state : AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL) : (a) Government is keen to introduce Electronics and Computers in a1l (a) whether Government have decided sectors of economy including Agriculture, to introduce any new scheme to a keep Irrigation, Power and Railways as they watch over Indo-Pak border areas; help in improving the overall efficiency and .productivity. (b) if so, the outlines thereof and the total expenditure likely to be incurred (b) Detaifs of such applications are thereon ; and siven in the statement below. PHAt..GUNA 14, 1907 (SAKA)

Statement Agricultural input-output Moni- toring Systems (Project manage- Electronics in Agriculture: ment for resource mobilization) for Rajasthan Canal Project, Electronics instiuments are finding ex- (Indira Gandhi Canal Project), tensive use in agriculture for a range of Chambal Conlmand Area. applications namely soil and water management, monitoring of environmental para- Optimal irrigation planning and meters like temperature and humidity, harvesting, storage of crops, pests n1anagl.!- intergrated operation for Rajas- ment, protection of plant and animals than Canal Haryana Irrigation Department. from the diseases and increasing production of dairies, in various countries. - Integrated Rural Development The Departments of Electronics (DOE) Progromme (IRDP) for main- has been instrumenta.1 in initiating the taining the performance related Agro-Diary Project b~ing executed at to all rural development projects. Electronics Systems Punjab Limited (ESPL). Certain products like Milk Anal- - Regional flood forecasting models., yser have been developed. The DOE ha<; etc. also formed a panel for Agri-Electronic Development in the country. The panel - Data Base evolution for Central report has provided guidelines to the Ground Water Board. Indian industry to de\ elop various Agri- Electronic Systems. Under its Micropro- Proposals under implementation inc- cessor Application Engineering Programme lude Distr.ict-base Agriculture Information DOE bas established a centure at lawahar- System through NICNET and Land Re- la1 Nehru Agriculture University at Jabal- cords Information System. pur. The centre will create awareness regarding the use of microproces')or based Electronics in Powe r : system through demonstration. training, group discussion and system deyelopment. Electronics instruments and systems Certain projects on microprocessor based are being used in power sector in order to low cost Agri-Electronic System like Crop- improve control operation for optimisation moisture/maturity, disease detection etc. of various physical parameters like pre- are being initiated. ssure. temperatnre, flow. level etc. so as to improve the generation of power. Pro- Computers in Agriculture and Irrigation: grammeable Controllers and Data Acqui- sition Systems have already introduced in National Informatics Centre (NIC) power plants for providIng controls for through their NICNET computer network. critical operations and Safety Disturbance have identified agriculture and irrigation analysers are already used in the distri- sector as a most dominant application area bution and transmitting station for provid- for electrons and computer applications. ing better awareness on the power flow Various agricultural sector cataJysed and into the control grid. implemented include: Computers in Power Sector - Integrated agricu1ture information system Load despatch centres are equipped with Computers. Various State Electricity - Monitoring of Drought Prone Boards are planning for the introduction Area Programme (DPAP) of Computers to carryout operations like coal and oil stock, their daily consump- - Optimal mobilzation of Ganga tion, generation of power, plant load Basin Water Resources (GBWRO) factors, heat rates, cooling water, spares inventory, maintenance status etc. - Hydrological data for Water Management, Central Water Co- Electronics in Rail"ays : mmission Electronic equipment are findine vast Written Answers MARCH 5, 1986

applications in Railways in area liJ....e tra- (c) whether it is also a fact that there ction, signalling, communications, In- was a delay of nearly 4 years on the part motion weighing system and providing of Pakistan Government in launching pro- safety in operations. DOE through its secution proceedings against them; and Microprocessor Application Engineering Programme has undertaken the task of (d) i.~ so, the reasons therefor? generating systems engineering expertise in Indian Railway") through training and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE system engineering project development. A MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS centre bas been established at RDSO., (SHRI K. R. NARAYANAN) : Lucknow to cater to the training require- (a) Ye<;, Sir. I n addition, four of the ments to technical per'ional in the area accused in the 1984 hijacking case were of microprocessor based system develop- acquitted. The Lahore High Court has ment. A nUluber of systems have been de- admitted appea Is :filed by the convicted veloped in collaboration of RDSO, Luck- persons against their sentences as also an now and technology transferred to the appeal by the pro<;ecution against the small scale industry for manuf'acturing. acquittals. These systems include microprocessor based track regarding systems, Ride quality (b) The Government of India have monitor, Vibration-cum-Spcedometcr etc. noted with satisfaction that the hijackers Apart from this through funding from the had been tried and sentenced according to technology development programme of the provisions of Pakistani Ja.w. It is ho- DOE Automatic Train Operation system ped that the sentences will be carried out. and Train Describer System for Metro railway have been develcped. (c) & (d) Although the hijackings had occurred in September ]981 and July 1984 Computers in Ra ilways : respectively, the Pakistan Government commenced the trial in a Special Court at Computers are being used for onli ne Lahore in March 1985 and April J 9~5 application in Indian Railways. The DOE respectively. is actively invohed in passenger reservation system at New Delhi which has been [English 7 commissioned for 30 trains and work regarding including other trains has been Stress on Availability of Transport taken up. The technical offers for train describer system for Northern Railway are 1438. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will being evaluated with DOE participation. the minister of PLA NNI NG be pleased to The DOE would be involved in the accep- state : tance and installation of thIS system.

{Trans/at ion] (a) whether it js correct that much stress has been laid on maximising the Prosecution of Indian Plane Hijackers availability of transport in the country in Pakistan during the Seventh Five Year Plan;

1437. SHRI NARESH CHANDRA (b) if so, the amount sanctioned for CHATUR VEDI: WiJJ the Minister of the purpose for the State of Andhra Pra- EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be p1eased to desh which is the most backward State in state : country; and

(a) whether it is a fact that the spe- (c) the S tate-wise break up of fund cial judge of Lahore (Pakistan) has awar- allocated for the purpose during Seventh ded death sentence to three and life term Plan? to seven hijackers of the Indian Plane; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) the reaction of Government or MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI A.K. Jodi.; PANJA) (a) Yes, Sir. 61 Written Answers PHALGUNA 14, 1907 (SAKA) 62

(b) An agreed outlay o~ Rs. 270.50 2 crores has been provided in the State Plan of Andhra Pradesh lor the transport sector TamiJ Nadu in the Seventh Five Year Plan. Andhra 27700 Pradesh is not the most backward and! or Tripura 5200 backward State in the country. Uttar Pradesh 105349 (c) A statement showing the state West Bengal 21360 w:se OJtla)s for the transport sector in the Total-States Seventh Five Year Plan is given below. 560569 In addition, outlays are also pro\ided in the Central Sector for the development of (Rs. lakhs) transport infrastructure; these are however, not distributed State-wise, but are provided States Outlays (1985-90) under the Plan heads of the Ministry of Transport. Union T errirories

Statement Andaman & Nicobar Islands 17557.64 Arunachal Pradesh 12700 Statewise Outlays for Transport- Seventh PJan Chandigarh 700 (Rs. lakhs) Dadra & Nagar Haveli 840

States Outlays (1985-90) Delhi 26465 Goa, Daman & Diu "4705 1 2 Lakshadweep 665 Mizoram Andhra Pradesh 27050 5800 Pondicherr) Assam 16220 1985.69 Bihar 39610 Total (UTs.) 71468.33 Gujarat 37325 T olal (States & UTs.) 632037.19 Haryana 19032 Villages Selected for Wasteland Develop- Himachal Pradesh 16375 ment Programme Jammu & Kashmir 13020 1439. SHRI DILEEP SINGH Karnataka 24300 BHURIA : \\-ill the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : Kerala 17350 (a) whether any special scheme has Madhya Prad~""'n 34239 been formulated for villages selected under Maharashtra 77494 Wasteland Development Programme; l\1anipur 7000 (b) if not, whether Union GO\ ernment think it necessary to do so~ and Meghalaya 8000

Nagaland 9850 (c) jf so, whether any district level or block level agency wIll be set up for the Orissa 18725 purpose or this work will i'e handed over to the District development agencies? Punjab ]8220 THE MlNISTER OF STATE IN THE Rajasthan 12692 MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND 4468 FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI) = (a) & 63 Written An.) wers MARCH S, 1986 Wr;tt~n Answer, 64

(b) The State/U.T. Government have been the Non-Alignnlent movement sent a message requested to survery and identify wasteland to the Conference which was read out by suitable for afforestation on village-by .. the Indian delegation, Shri V. N. Gadgil, village basis. The Wastelands Develop- Minister of State for Information and ment Programnle is to be implemented by Broadcasting. The text of the Prime the State/UT Administration in areas so Minister's message is given below as a identified on a Year-to-Year basis, in con- statement. The message was deeply sultation with and involving village pancha- appreciated, and adopted unanimously as a yats/village communities. Recourse would document of the Conference. be had also to tree patta scheme, formation of tree growers' cooperatives and in- Statement volvement of voluntary Agencies. MESSAGE (c) At the district level, a set-up con- sisting of the Forest, Agriculture and the The overriding concerns of the Non- District Rural Deve]opment Authority Aligned Movement are to preserve interna- (DRDA) is already in existence which is tional peace, promote the freedom and responsible for implementing the was- sovereignty of nations stil1 subjected to the telands de\,elopment programme. It is denial of their rights, and secure economic not therefore, proposed to constitute a justice for all peoples. Nonaligned coun- separate District/Block level agency for tries must strengthen cooperation among this purpose. them~elves in the political, economic and cultural fields for the achievement of these Conferen('e of Informalion Ministers of the objectives. Non-Aligned Countries These tasks require greater exchange 1440. SHRI ANAND SINGH of information. The role of the Inter- SHRI UTTAM RATHOD Governmental Council of the Information Ministers of Nonaligned Countries is to Will the Mini~ler of EXTERNAL promote sllch exchange. I am glad to AFFAIRS be pleased to slate: know that the' eighth meeting of the Coun- cil is being held in Dakar. (a) whether a conference Oi the In- formation Ministers of the Non-Aligned The Non-aligned Summit in New Delhi countries was held in the capital of Sene- I isted a number of specific measures to gal in January t his year; enable Non-aligned countnes to acbie"c media cooperation and the decolonization (b) if so, ~hether the Prime Minister of information. We have called for a New as Chairman of the Non-A1igned Move- International Information and Communica- ment has sent a message for international tion Order. I am confident that the Con- cooperation amongst membes of the N AM ference in Dakar wilJ help our Movement. in the matter of collection and dissemina- My best wishes for its success. tion of information and publicity with a Wasteland Project view to promoting solidarity and amity amongst the member-countries and mainta- 1441. SHRI AKHTAR HASAN: Will ining world peace; the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to 5,tate : (c) if so, the details thereof; and (a) the outcome of the meeting of (d) what was the response of the con- Chief Ministers, recently held in Delihi ference to this message? regarding National Land Use and Waste- land Development, etc.; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (b) w~ether tackling of water logging (SHRI K,R. NARAYANAN) : (a) to (d) by latest scientific ways was also c1iscuss~d Yes, Sir. Prime Mil,lister I.lS Chaiqnan of in that meetini; and. 65 Written Answerl PHALGUNA 1~, 1997(SALA)

(c) jf so, the outcome thereof? (c) if so, the reasons for permittina import of TV kits without tele'text arrao.ge- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ment? MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI) : (a) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THi: National Land Use and Wastelands MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND Development Council in its meeting on 6th TECHNOLOGY AND IN THE DE- February, 1986 approved:- 0) National PARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOP- Land Use PoIicy Draft and (ii) Strategies, MENT! ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRO- Structures, Policies, and Action Plan for NICS AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. Wastelands Devel~pment in 1986-87. PATIL) : (a) No imports of colour TV kits were made by the Government directly and by the manufacturers with Govern.. (b) & (c) The problem of waterlogging ment approval during 1984 and 1985. was discussed. It was decided that scientific irrigation management must be enforced and the problems of water logging. salinity (b) and (c) Do not arise. and alkalinity must be brought under control by the use of appropriate techno- [Trttn,J.tion) logies and by the adoption of proper Allocath,nl under Component Plall for irrigation practices. 8Cs/STI

Import of Colour T. V. Kits 1443. SHRI K.D. SULTANPURI Will the Minister of WELFARE be pleased 1442. DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA RAO to state the state-wi~e allocations made in Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to the Seventh Five Year Plan under the state: Component Plan for Scheduled Castes and the Sub-Plan for Scheduled Tribes in the (a) whether colour TV kits were country? iInported by Government directly and by THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE the manufacturers with Government appro- MINISTRY OF WELFARE (SHRI val and if so, details of these imports GIRIDHAR GOMANGO) : A statement during 1984 and 1985; showing the State-wise allocations made in the Seventh Five Year Plan under (b) whether Government had already Special Component Plan for Scheduled decided to introduce Teletext on TV be- Castes and under Tribal Sub·Plan for iore import of such kits was made; and Scheduled Tribes is given below.

Statement

Sit.t.meat SlIo"in& the Allocations Made in the 7th Fi,. Year Plan Un4.r Speeial Component Plan &. Tribal Sub-Plan (Rs. in crores)

S. No. State/U.T. Allocations nlade in the 7th Five Year Plan

Special Component Plan Tribal Sub-Plan

2 3 4

1. Andhara Pradesh 800.41'" 216.56* 228.94- 2. Assam 66.92 1239.68 3. Bihar 330.56 4. Gujarat 178.09* 540.01 5. Haryana 179.29 " Written Answer' MAR CH S, 1986 . Wr;lt~n Answe" 61

1 2 3 4

6. Himachal Pradesh 115.50 120.39

7. Jammu & Kashmir 47.84* 8. Karnataka 452.86 78.69 9. Kerala 210.19 43.12 10. Madhya Pradesh 414.88 1298.70 11. Maharashtra 247.89 524.04* 12. Manipur 6.45 169.26 13. Orissa 201.42 1048.94 14. Punjab 181.44 15. Rajasthan 377.00 200.43 16. Sikkim 2.37 29.38 17. Tamil Nadu 686.25 50.35 18. Tripura 42.54 152.70 19. Uttar Pradesh 1075.00* 10.00

20. West Bengal 438.81 211.63

Tdtal States 6055.71 6162.82 1. Andaman & Nicobar 34.00 2. Chandigarh 8.90 3. Delhi 110.42 4. Goa, Daman & Diu 3.43 1.81 S. Pondicherry 27.21

Total UTs. 149.96 35.81

Grand Total 6205.67 6198.63

*Tentative.

{English] (b) how many passport applications bave been cleared so .far; Clearance of Passport ApplicatioJls (c) whether it is a fact that three to 1444. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: four months are taket;l to clear one pass- Will the Minister of EXTERNAL port; ~FFAIRS be pleased to state : (d) if so, the reasons for such delay in (a) the number of passport applications clearing the passport applications; ·and {eceived by the Regional Passport O(ficc ll~nplorc since September, 19S5; (c) ":\'hethet it is also a fact t •.~~ Written Answ~"s PttAtGUNA 14, 1901 rSAKA) Written A.",swerl

applications routed through trave I agents governments concerned who very often are cleared early : if so, reasons thereof? make the desired corrections. Such errors THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and distortions in reporting and publica- MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS tions cover a variety of subjects and action (SHRI K.R.NARAYANAN): (a) 45, 948 is taken by Missions abroad on a continu- (upto 21. 02. 1986). ing basis and often dUring re&u lar brietb~1 of the press by our officials. (b) 42,583 (upto 21.02.1986). Eval.atloD oflO-PoiDt Programme. (c) No, Sir. Most passports are issued ill six weeks where applications are com- 1446. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIG- plete, and clear poilce reports are received. RAHI However, a few cases are pending for want SHRI BANWARI LAL of clear police reports or incomplete applic- PUROHIT: ations. SHRI SATYENDRA (d) Reasons for delay is due to non- NARAY AN SINHA : receipt of Police Clearance reports from the authorities concerned/incomplete Dr. B.L. SHAILESH : applicati on. SHRI K. PRADHANI :

(e) No, Sir. Applications submitted Will the Minister of PROGRAMME directlly by applicants through Travel IMPLEMENTATION be pleased to state: Agents are dealt with impartially without (a) whether it is a fact that the 20- any discrimnation. Passports are isslled Point Programme is being revised to make in a time-bound limit of 5 working days it more dynamic and to make a dent on the after receipt of clear Pojice reports. scale of poverty ; Publications Brought Out Abroad Con- (b) if so, the specified points of thrust taining Distortions About India identified and the details regarding the suggestions put forward by the Committee 1445. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFF- to make 20-Point Programme a &reat success; and AIRS be pleased to State:

(a) the cases during the last there (c) whether any Committee had been years taken up by Government against the appointed by Government to examine the publications brought out abroad wherein implementation of the 20-Point programme facts about. India had been distorted un- during Sixth Five Year Plan? dermining our national prestige;

(b) since when such vigilance is being THE MINISTER OF PROGRAMME exercised; and IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI A.B.A. GHANI KHAN CHOUDHURY) (a) and (b) : Yes Sir. A re-struc- (c) what action had been taken in such turing of the Twenty Point Progamme is cases and wi th what results? under consideration for a more effective implementation of the objectives of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE programme. Details of the thrust would MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be available when the programme is finali· (SHRI K.R. NARA Y ANAN): (a) to sed. (c): The Ministry of External Affairs closely monitors newspapers, periodicals (c) Yes Sir. A Cabinet Commitee and books publjshed abroad. Errors of under the Chairmanship of the Late Prime facts or analysis in these publications are Minister, Smt. Indira Gandhi was set-up appropriately taken up by tbe Ministry and in June, 1982 to review the implementation our Mission abroad with the publishers/ of the 20-Point P rosrame. 11 . Written Answr" MARCH S, 1916 Written Answers 72 rTr.".l.til1l1] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERNAL SECUR- I.flltration iato Indi. Along lad.-Pat ITY(SHRI ARUN NEHRU).(a) ~ statem- Border ent giving the number of infiltrators apprehended by the security forces along Indo- 1447. SHRI KALI PRASAD Pak border in Punjab, Rajasthan and J&K PANDEY Will the Minister of HOME during the peflod from 1.1.1984 to 31.1. AFFAIRS be pleased to State: 1986 is given below. All these persons were handed over to local police authorites (a) the total number of persons arres- for taking necessary action under the law. ted while they were infiltrating into Indian territory along Indo-Pak border in Punjab, (b) Government have on such Rajasthan and Jammu and Kashmir information. respectively during each month in the years 1984-85 and 1985-86 and how many of them (c) The security forces on the border have been sent back, prosecuted or other are on alert. Measure'i taken for strenthen- actions taken against them together \\ ith jng surveillance along the borders include; details thereof; strengthening or' BSF, establishing additional border out-post. construction of (b) whether it is a fact that n105t of observation post towers and providine them have succeeded in crossing this border increased mohility to border patrols etc. who had earlier escaped to various countries in their effort to acquire foreign citizenship; (d) I nfi Itrators \\ ho are found without valid travel docUlnents arc pushed back; (c) whether Government have taken but if they are suspected to have commit- any action or propose to take any action ted any offence under the Arms Act, immediately to completely seal this border: Customs Act. Indian Penal Code, Opium and . Act, Dangerous Drugs Act, Foreigners Act, Passport (entry-into India) Act, etc., (d) the existing provision to punish the action is taken against them depending infiltrators ? upon the nature of the offence committed. Statement

Month & Year Punjab Rajasthan J & K

1 2 3 4

January, 1984 53 11 2 Feb., 1984 90 66 2

March, 1984 136 21 5

April, 1984 29 40 1 May, 1984 18 30 7

June, 1984 ]21 49 2

July, 1984 59 101 3

Aug., 1984 172 24 3

Sept., 1984 112 10 3

Oct., 1984 76 31 14

Nov" 1984 S4 104 11 73 .. written 41t1,,~rs PHALOimA 14, 1907 (SAr~) . Written Allswe" 74

---~------.------~--- -~------~------2 3 4

Dec., 1984 219 22 5

January, 1985 179 20 2

Feb., 1985 18 4 2

March, ]985 ]95 6 5

April, ]985 509 6 3

May, 1985 382 4 7

June, 1985 135 2 4

July, 1985 216 186 <4

Au"., 1985 296 120 1

Sept., 1985 358 142 7

Oct., 1985 596 120 3

Noy .• 1985 219 223 3

Dec., 1985. 317 244 1

January. 1986 375 57 1

Total 4934 1553 101

[Ellllish] C ••e. Recel.ed by CeDtral Go.er.- me nt from Madhya Pradeah UDder NaU •••1 Park tD W. BeDK.1 For.at (C.ueryation) Act, 1980 1448. SHRI ANANDA PATHAK: Will tbe PRIME MINISTER be pleased 1449. SHRI PRATAP BHANU to state: SHARMA: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pJeased to state : (a) whether Go vernment have received any proposal from t~e Government o. (a) how many cases of Madhya Pra .. West Bengal to declare the parts of San~ desh State have been received by Centr;al datphu and 7,000 hectares of· land surro- Government under Forest (Conservation) unding it as a National Pa rk; and Act, 1980 during the last three years; (year-wise details)! (b) if so, whether Government have taken any decision on the abo\ e pro- (b) on how many cases objections posal ? have been issued more than once;

THE.MINISTER OF STATE IN (c) how cases been re- THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT many have jected, givi':'l reasons of rejectjons; and AtlJ> FORESTS (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): (a) No, Sir. (d) how many cases are still pcndiDa (b). Question does not arise. for disposal aivina year-wise details ? 75 MARCg 5, 1986 Written AlIsw~rs 76

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN have identified the Ishaporc Rifle Factory THE MINISTRY OF ENV1RONMENT and the Alipore Mint as bei ng responsi- AND FORESTS (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): ble for large-scale pollution; (a) Forty-seven in 1983, One hundred (b) whether specific complaints re- seventy two in 1984; One hundred torty lating to discharge of effluents into the four in 1985. Ganga river and emission of thick streams of smoke against these two concerns have (b) Objections ha\'e not been issued in so far been ignored by their managements; any case. Only clarifications and additio- and nal information have been sought for (c) if so. \,.. hethcr Government pr0- from the State Government in cases where pose to take any action in the maHer? compJete data and maps have not been furnished as per prescribed procedure. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND (c) 115 cases ha\e been rejected either FORESTS (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): (a) on merits of the case, or because alter- to (c) Information is being collected and natives were available, or because pro- will be laid on the Table of the House. visions of the Act were violated. Sri Lankan Tamil Refugees (d) Only one case recei\led in 1983. three in 1984 and two in 1985 are pend- 1452. DR. G. S. RAJHANS : ing for disposal at present. PROF. K. K. TEWARY Indo-German Venture to Manufacture V.C.R. Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state : 1450. SHRI P. M. SAYEED: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to (a) the total number of refugees who refer to the reply given to Un starred arrived -in India from Sri Lanka till Question No. 2551 on 4-12-1985 regarding December, 1985; Indo-German Venture to manufacture V.C.R. and state : (b) the amount spent on them as on 31 December, 1985; (a) whether details regarding location (c) the number of refugee camps in of the manufacturing unit, production Jndia at present; capacity and capital involvement thereon have since been worked out; and (d) whether any ne~ camps have been (b) if so, the details thereof '! opened recently; (e) whether a sizable number of re- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN fugees have left Ind ia for Sri Lanka re- THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND cently; TECHNOLOGY AND IN THE DE- PARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOP- (f) if so, the details thereof; and MENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECT- RONICS AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ (g) whether Government of India have V. PATIL) : (a) No, Sir. asked the Government of Sri Lanka to share the expenses on Sri Lankan re- (b) Does not arise. fugres '? PolI.tloD b, Industries in Welt Bengal THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1451. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAI~S Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased (SHRI K.R. NARAYANAN) : (a) A total to state: of 1,24,828 refugees had arrived in India upto 31st December, 1985 since the out- (a) whether the Environment Depart.. break of ethnic violence in Sri Lanka in ment of the West Bengal Government July _ 1983. 77 Written .4nswerl PHALGUNA 14, 1907 (SAKA) 78

(b) The details of expenditure incurred (c) state-wise break-up of area of for- on relief to the refugees during 1983-84 est at present; and and 1984-85 is not available, as separate accounts were not maintained prior to (d) the steps being taken up to prevent March, 1985. However during 1983-84 deforestation in different States? and 1984-85 Rs. 68.50 lakhs and Rs. 143.18 Jakh s respectively were spent on providing THE MINISTER OF STATE IN relief to both repatriates as well as re- THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT fugees. From February 4th, 1985-86 AND FORESTS (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): when a separate account for expenditure (a) The National Forest Policy approved on relief to the refugees Vvas maintained, in 1952 lays down that India, as a whole Rs. 1.76 crores had been spent on this should aim at maintaining one-third of it~ account till September, 1985 as rep orted total land area under forests. In the by the Government of Tamil Nadu. (The Himalayas, the Deccan. a nd other moun- concerned authorities have been asked to taineous tracts liable to erosion, 60 per provide the latest information available as cent should be kept under forests. In the to the amount spent on the refugees as on plains, where the ground is fiat and ero- 31st December. 1985. ~ion is normally not a serious factor, the proportion to be attained should be placed at 20 per cent. (c) There are two camps at Manda- pam lind Ko(apattu where refugees have (b) Yes, Sir. been housed. Apart from this, the refugees are also being kept in more than (C) A statement ~howing statewise for- 100 temporary shelters in 15 other districb est area and the percentage of forest area of Tamil Nadu. (The exact number of to the geographicai area, is given below. these temporary camps IS being obtained from the Government of Tamil Nadu.) (d) The following are the major steps taken to pre\ ent disforestation :- (d) Now new permanent camps have been opened, recently. However, the (I) Reforestdtion Government of Tamil Nadu has been of degraded forests. asked to confirm thi~.

(e) As per the information available, (1I) Afforestation of waste-lands to no refugees ha\.e left India for Sri Lanka reduce biological pressure on recently. However the Government of existing forests. Tamil Nadu have been asked for full information. (iii) SoIl, water and tree conser- (0 Does not ari sc. vation in the Himalayas (Oper- ation Soil Watch). (g) No, Sir. This is under consideration of the Government of India. ti\) Development of infrastructure for the protection of forests PreYentiog Deforestation for Preserving from biotic interference. of Ecologieal Balance t \) Creation of National Park.s and 1453. SHRI V. S. VIJAY ARAGHA- \\ ildlife sancturies. VAN: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleas ed to state : (\ i) Implementation of the Forest (Conservation) Act, 1980 to (a) the minimum area of forest essen- check diversion of forest lands ti al for preserving ecological balance; for non-forest purposes.

(b) whether any State bas less-than (vii) Issue of guidelines from the Ql\lll«tqm of for~~~; Centre lor tl\e better me ..IC"l 80'

ment and protection of existing forests. (ix) Substitution of wood by alternative material in packiDI, railway sleepers and buildinl (viii) Development of alternative construction. source for domestic energy. Statement

S.N"o. State/UT Geographical Forest area ~ ~ of forest area area (shotu- (thousand ha.) to geographical and ha.) area

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1. Andhra Pradesh 27682 6377.2 23.15 2. Assam 7852 3070.8 39.11

3. Bihar 17388 2923.2 16.81

4. Gujarat 19598 1965.7 9.96

5. Haryana 4422 171.6 3.71

6. Himachal Pradesh 5567 2132.2 38.06

7. J & K 22224 2100.0 9.85

8. Karnataka 19177 3863.4 19.75

9. Kerala 3886 1122.3 28.62

10. Madhya Pradc~h 44284 15541.-4 34.75

11. Maharashtra 30776 6416.6 20.82

12. Manipur 2236 1510.0 67.75

13. Meghalaya 2249 947.7 38.02

14. Nagaland 1653 288.3 17.42

15. Orissa 15573 5996.3 43.44

16. Punjab 5036 264.2 4.83

17. Rajasthan 34222 3109.2 10.20

18. Sikkim 730 265.0 35.02

19. Tamil Nadu 13007 2179.1 16.75 20. Tripura 1048 639.6 56.58

21. Uttar Pradesh 29441 5126.7 17.46

22. west Bengal 8785 1183.0 13 .•8 Andaman 8L Nicobar Island 829 714.4 86.13 AJ1mtehai Pt.dem S3S8 5174.0 6J.67 It Written AIIIfH,. PIIALGUNA 14, 1907 (SAKA) W,itlen .4"._,.. t2

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25. Chandigarh 11 Nee. 26. Dadra & Nagar Haveli 49 20.2 40.82

27. Delhi 1.t9 Nil Neg. 28. Goa Daman &. Di u 381 99.4 27.S6 29. Mizoram 2109 713.0 33.81

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1454. SHRI H. N. NANJE GOWDA (b) No auidelines have been issued. Wi1J tbe PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (c) None so far.

(a) whehter Union Government has , Proteetion of Species aM Ee08~ste." drawn up a scheme under which voluntary agencies will be associated with redressal of public grievances requiring immediate 1455. DR. CHINTA MOHAN: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pJeased to attention, in the interest of improving the state: quality of administration;

(b) if so, what guidelines ha ... e been (a) whether as per Tiwari Committee issued to the State Governments in this Report (1980) on Environment, the country regard; and has immense variety of natural livina resources both of animal and plant oriain; (c) the names of voluntary agencies in Delhi which ha\'e come forward for the (b) If so~ how disappearinx specie-5 said task? and ecosystem are being protected; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) whether genetic resources and MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL. PUBLIC natura) ecosystem are now fully GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS (SHRI protected? P. CHIDAMBARAM): (a) A proposal to involve voluntary agencies in the redress of public grievances has been THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE mooted recognising that voluntary agencies MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND can act as protagonists of reform to guide FORESTS (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): (a) & educate the people and to advise Gove- Yes, Sir. rnment on. reforms particularly at points of citizen-administration interface. Ministeries (b) and (c) Steps have been tak.en to have been requested to indentify protect the endangered species and ecosys- voluntary agencies with whom they would tems. These include legislative measures~ like to interact so that t he Department of educational awareness programmes survey, Administrative Reforms &. Public Grie- study and research concernina endemic vUlees can provide a forum where the and threatened animals and plants, reauJa- Ministries and voluntary alencies can come tion of trade .ltd commerce in eaciaDpred to,ether and sugest measures for reforms. species of flora a1ld tatma UDder the COD. Written Mswet s MARCH 5, 1986

vention on International Trade in Endan- tion programmes have been intensified. iered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora A National Wasteland Development Board (CITES) and institutional mechanisms. has been set up.

-Under the Wild Life (Protection) Act, 1972, there are provisions for protec- -For conservation of ecologically tion of fiora and fauna of the country sensititive areas such as wetlands and which lay down strict penalties for infring- lllangroves surveys have been undertaken mente Wild Life and Forests Departments for formulation of conservation plans. of State & Union Territories are furnished with technical expertise and guidelines/ -All new development projects are guidance in the conservation and protec- subjected to environmental impact assess- tion of flora and fauna and in combating ment to minimise their effect on ecosystem. poaching. Microprocessor Controlled System for -The Forest (Conser\tation) Act, 19HO. Sugarcane, Textile and Paper lo.ultry ensures that no forest area is diverted to J457. DR. SUDHIR ROY: Will non-forest purposes without the prior the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to approval of the Govt. of India. ::,tate :

-The States/Union Territories are . (a) whether it is a fact that the advised to impose a moratorium on the sugarcane, textile and paper industries felling of trees in "sensitive areas" at have already gone for the microprocessor altitudes above 1000 metres. controlled systems to improve productivity; -53 National Parks and 247 Wildlife San- ctuarie! have been set up for protection of (b) if ~o, the improvement in produc- threatened species of plants and animals tion achieved after the introduction of the and their diverse habitats. 13 sites have system. industry-wise details; and been identified for designr.tion as "Bio- sphere ReservesH in ~hich a'wide spectrum (c) the nun1ber of workmen employed of living resources would be conserved in in these three industries before and after their na tural state. the introduction of the system industry- wise detaih ? -Botanical Survey of India and Zoo- logical Survey of India are engaged in the THE MINISTER Of STATE IN THE survey of flora and fauna and in the study MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- of endemic and threatened plants and their NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT~ conser\ ation. ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. -National Bureau of Plant Genetic PATIL, : (a) M;croproces~cr controHed Resources is paying focussed attention to systems have been introduced in very few conservation of wild relatives of important industries in these sectors. crop plants. (b) and (c) In view of (a) above, it is -An All-India Coordinated Project not feasible at this stage to assess the on conservation of plant species through impact of such systems towards improve- Seed Biology and Tissue Culture has been ment in productivity or on employment ]a unched for conservation of endangered pattern in the sugarcane, textiles or paper species. especially herbal drugs. sector industries.

-Besides protection of forests, concer- Programme for TrainiDg of I.A,S Otficer. ted measures have been adopted for plant- ing of new forests and trees. Social 1458. SHRI NARAYANCHOUBEY : Forestry, Farm Forestry, Desert Develop- Will the PRIME MINIST~R be I?Jeasec;l ...Us ~oil CoJ,1!orvation and aco-re¥e~erlil- to sta,te : PHALGtrNA 14, 1907 (SdrU) ~Written d"swt,,,, 86

(a) whether a large programme for the programmes is to provide the requi- training of all the I. A. s. officers has site knowledge, skills and attitudinal been started this year, and if so, the inputs to the participants in the three details thereof; seniority groups specified earlier. The rationale of the one week courses is to (b) the number of officers to be train- provide a kind of sabbatical to the officers ed, training institutes, training programmes concerned, to prov:de vertical communica- rationale of the programmes, major subject tion among the participants whose seniority content of training methodology and across the board would range from the evaluation of training; sub Divisional Officer to the senior most Jevels and thus ensure interaction between (c) whether there is any propo~al to those who formulate Policy and those who get this training programme in its totality implement it, and to provide for experience evaluated by a specialised agency; sharing in Poli cy PIa nning and Programme Implementation among the participants (d) the total cost of this training who are drawn from several States. proiramme during 1985-86; and The subject content of the 4 week (e) the reaction among the official" training programmes in the three seniority about the training programme? groups is given In the statement-II below. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE The subject content of the one week MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC refresher course is built round the specia- GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS (SHRI hsm concerned. The evaluation of the P. CHIDAMBARAM): (a) Yes, Sir. programmes is done through a standardised These programmes are of 2 categoric" \ iz. questionnaire evolved by this Ministry which 4 week training programmes and one week is partly structured and partly open ended refresher courses. The four week pro- where each participant furnishes his feed arammes are intended for officers in 3 back relating to the course. seniority groups viz. for officers of 8-9 years service with focus on Programme Imple- (c) There is no such proposal. mentation; for officers of 10-16 years Service with the thrust on Management (d) The approximate cost of the Concepts and Decision Making; and for training efforts during 1985-86 is Rs. 60.00 officers of J 7-20 years service in Policy lakhs as provided in the Reserved Budget Planning and Analysis. The one week Estimates. refresher courses are for all lAS officers. Each LAS officers would (e) The programmes have been gene- under go a one week refresher course rally ",ell received and the feedback is every year in one of several identi- positive. fied specialisms and all lAS officers in the three seniority groups mentioned above Statement-) are proposed to be covered by the 4 week I. List 0/ Slate Traninillg InstitutiolU : programmes within the next three years. 1. Administrative Training Institute, (b) The total number of officers to be Ranchi. trained excludjng those retiring) is appro- 2. Sardar Patel Institute of Public ximately 3930. The names of training Adnli nistration, Ahmedabad. institutions undertaking this task in 1985- 86 are given in the statement below. 3. Admmistrative Traming Institute, Mysore. The total number of training programmes to be conducted for the first cycle (October 4. Institute of Management jn Govern- 1985 to June 1986) is 141 comprising 22 ment, Trivandrum. four week programmes and 125 one week 5. Academy of Administration, Bhopal. courses. 6. Maharashtra Institute of Develop- Ttl. rationale of the 4 week trainina ment A

1. Gopa Bandhu Academy of Adminis- 27, Indian Institute of Management, tration, Bbubaneswar. Ahmedabad.

8. Punjab State Institute of Public 28. Indian Institute of Management, A({ministration, Chandigarh. Calcutta.

9. Harish Chandra Mathur Rajasthan 29. Indian Institute of Management. State Institute of PubHc Administra- Bangalore. tion, Jaipurr. 30. National Institute of Public Finance 10. AdmiDistrative Training Institute, and Policy, Delhi. Calcutta. Statemeat-Il II. List of N.tional/Central Tr.ining In8"tullon~ : t. Course Content for 4 Week Prosr•• me •• 1]. . Administrative Training Institute. Prolr•• me implement.floa Nainital. 1. Environmental analysis, Experience sbaring Interpersonnel skills, manajC- 12. Institute of Public Ent erprises, ment of innovation Hyderabad. 2. Project Management 13. All India Management Association. Delhi. 3. Financial Management

14. Management Development Institute, 4. Decision Making Techniques Gura8on. 5. Rural Development Programme

15. Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi. -Rural Employment 16. Nation~l Institute of Rural Develop- -Individual Benefcia ry Pro@ramme~ ment, Hyderabad. -Area Projects 17. Indian Institute of Public Administra- 6. Urban Management tiOD, Delhi. 7. Public Enterprises Management 1 S. National Institute of Health and 8. Social Service Management Edn. Family Welfare. Delhi. Home, Water, Hea~th. 19. Vaikunth Mehta National Institute 9. Syndicate of Cooperathe Management. Pune.

20. National Labour Institute, Delhi. II. eGtI rle ConteDt for 4 Week Pr.,ra.nDe e. ManagelDent Concept. alttl Deds". 21. Institute of A ppJied Manpo,\ er Mak1na Research, Delhi. I. Functional Skirts National Institute of Educational 22. Oran. Behaviour Planning, Delhi. Finance 23. ) nstitutc of Economic Gro" th, Marketing Delbi. Per. Mat. Materials 2... Tala Management Training Centre, Maintenance Pune. 2. Management Techniques lS. Administrative Staff College of Jndia. Hyderabad. Analytical aids in Decision MaklDi Project Manalcment 26. Lal Bahadur Shastri National Aca- MIS demy of Administration, Mussoorie. Computuisation and ..._. Game I'HALGUNA 14, 1907 (GA.LA)

Oaantitative Tec:hnique5 9. Regional and Linauistic basis of Technological Forecasting Indian Politics

3. Environment 10' Input-Output Analysis for Plannina (Both National and International) 11. Quantitative Aids to Deciston- Economics Making Socio.polit-ical Technological 12. Organized Pressure Groups Influenc- Public Policy and Process ing Industrial Policy Science and Technology Policy 13. Financial AnaJysis and Appraisa) Legal and regulatory environment 14. Social Cost Benefit Analysis Consumerism and Public intere'it litigation 15. I nformation System, Computers and Environment and Ecology Policy Making Macro Problems of Productivity 16. Corporate Information Systcm-A demonstration 4. Corp. Planning Strategic Management 17. Evaluation and Social Science MBO Research Management of Change Corporate Sec. responsibility 18. Rural Development and Policies towards Poverty Alleviation Profossi onal Ethics Panel Discussion ) 9. Public Distributfon System 5. Project Work 20, Conservation of Natural ResoUl"Ces with Special reference to Forests 6. Others Lib. work 21. Textile Policy Films outside the schedule Inaugural "Orilsa" as • Special Catelory State Evaluation Valedictory 1459. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Will Industry visits the Minister \)f PLANNING be pleased to state :

111. C ..rle Coateat for 4 Week Pro- (a) whetber the Orissa Government p-a•• e on PolIQ PI•• nlB .... A •• 'ysls has since approached the National Deve.. (A .peelmea) lopment Council with the request that since Orissa has a laraer concentration of }. Introduction to Policy Science Scheduled Tribes cban many otber States~ 2. Public Policy Making in India the State may be declared as a special catclory State and al10tted lldditional 3. Development Strategies and funds for its development and P1anning (h) if so, Go'.'emment·s reaction there.. 4. Stale and the Indian Political System to ? 5. ldeololY in Indian Politics THE MINISTER OF STA"rE IN THE MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI A. 6. Structure of Indian Economy.. Panel K. PANJA) : (a) Yes, Sir. At the meet- Discussion ina of the National Development Council held on 8tb-9th November, 1985, the 7. 'National Income Analysis Chief Minister of Orissa, did request lor 8. Caste as a ba. of Indian Polky t rcatina Orissa as a special cateaory Makina Slale. MAkeH 5. 1986

(b) The Central assistance to the Standards of Ambieat Quality for Water States for the Seventh Plan has been de- PolI.tlon termined on the basis of Modified Gadgil Formula as approved by the National 1461. SHRI D.B. PATIL: Will the Development Council. The existing formula PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : provides, inter-alia, for pre-emption of (a) the standards of ambient quality Central assistance for meeting the req uire- for water pollution in India ; ments of eight special category States, viz., Assam, Himachal Pradesh, Manipur, (b) whether the present standards of Jammu & Kashmir, Meghalaya, Nagaland, ambient quality for water pollution in Sikkim and Tripura. The National Deve- India are lower in comparison to the lopment Council has not made any change standards of ambient quality for water in the list of the special category States. pollution in U.S.S.R. and U.S.A. ; and However, Orissa receives special Central (c) if so, steps being taken by Goyern- assistance (S.C.A.) for its tribal sub-plan, nlent to improve the present standards of catering to its scheduled tribe population. ambient quality for water pollution? Table•• of Andllra Pradesb GO'ferament THE MINISTER OF STATE IN for Republic Day Parade THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT 1460. SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA- AND FORESTS (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): MURTHY: win the Minister of (a) The standards of ambient water DEFENCE be pleased to state: quality for drinkine purposes arc: (a) whether the Tableau of Andhra Parametres Limits Pradesh State Government for display PH 6.5-8.5 during 1986 Republic Day Parade was not BOD 2 mg/litre accepted by the Union Government Dissolved 2 mg/Jitre (b) if so, reasons therefor; Oxygen (c) whether the Andhra Pradesh Go- Total coliform 50 vernment offered to make necessary altera- (b) No, Sir. tions and changes as suggested by Union (c) Does not arise. Government ; and Indo-Japan ColiaboratioD ia Ele~troDi~s (d) if so, whether this was agree to ? Items THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 1462. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU: Will THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE, \he PRIME MINISTER be pleased to RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT state : (SHRI ARUN SINGH) : (a) to (d) The (a) whether India favours collabo- tabJeau proposed by the Andhra Pradesh ration with Japan in the manufacture of Government on the theme "Archaeologi- electronics items ; cal transport-Nagarjuna KondaH was one (b) if so, the names of Japanese com- of the 91 proposals received from State panies which have already finalised colla- Governments/Union Territority Administ- boration agreements with Indian firms; rations/Central Government Ministriesj and Departments and Central Public Sector (c) the details of items to be manu- Undertakings for participation in the Re- factured? public Day Parade 1986. The Experts Co- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN mmittee set-up for selection of tableaux THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND had suggested some modifications in the TECHNOLOGY AND IN THE DE- tableau which were carried out by the PARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOP- Andhra Pradesh Government. Despite the MENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECT- changes, the Expert Committee felt that RONICS AND SPACE (SHRI SHIV- the tableau could not clearly convey its RAJ V. PATIL) : (a) Indian companies basic theme to the lay viewers. The tab... have been collaborating with Japanese leau could not, thereforet be included rOJ companies. participation in the Republic Day Parade (b) and (c) Details ace given in the 1986 00 comparative merit. statement below. '3 Pft-ALGUNA 14, 1907 (SAX-A) 94

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E.,leyment of Sertice Officers in D.G.I. Deficiencies in EME 1463. SHRI AlIT KUMAR SAHA Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased 1464. PROF. RAMKRISHNA MORE: to state: Win the Minister of DEFENCE be pleac:;ed to ')tate : (a) when was the Defence Quality Assurance Service Cadre formed; (a) whether it is a fact that the army career particularly in the technical (b) the aim of forming thi') cadre; cadre has not been attracting the young men and that 20 to 25 per cent deficiencies (c) whether service officers are still exist in the Corps of Electrical and employed in the DGI organi"ation to give Mechanical Engineers (E\lfE) in the officers their user experience; and cadres;

(d) if so, reasons for employing ser- (b) if so. the reasons for the declining vice o1ficers in Administration and C, \ d interest among the young men in the army trade inspection duties? career and for the deficiencies existing in the Corps of Electrical and Mechanical THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Engineers Cadre; and DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE PRO- DUCTION AND DEFENCE SUPPLIES (c) steps contemplated by Government (SHRI SUKH RAM) : (a) and (b) Group to motivate youngmen by making the army 4A· posts of t he erstwhile Defence Science career attractive? Service cadre earmarked for the Directo- rate General of Inspection (DGJ) Yo ere THE J'v1INISTER OF STATE IN THE encadred into a separate sen Jce known a~ DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE RESEA- Defence Quality Assurance Sen ice In 1979. RCH AND DEVELOPl\IENT (SHRI The aini of this cadre is to provide the ARU;\f SINGH): (a) to (c) It is not correct civilian component of officers required for to say that army career is not attracting Quality Assurance of equipments and store~ } oung men. The courses at the National inducted into the Army and ~a\.} (except Defence Academy and the Indian Military Naval Armaments). Academy are fully subscribed. There is abo no dearth of candidates (c) Yes, Sir. A con1ponent of Service aspiring t 0 join the various technical officers in the DG I is considered essential cadres in the armed forces. However, to provide the necessary user experience in ther~ is some deficiency in the intake of addition to their technical and admjni~tra various technical cadres due to these tive experience. aspirants not coming up to the prescribed standards. The terms and conditions (d) A High Powered Committee formed of sen ice are being re"ie~ ed constanty in 1982 made recommendations, on the basis to make impro\ ements therein. Wid! of functions and job content of each poq publicity through the Press. audio-visuae in the DGI Organisation, regarding bifurca- media and intormation brochures is givenl tion of the officers posts in the DGI for projecting the true image of service in Organisation between Service and Civilian the armed forces and for attracting suitable officers. These have been accepted and eligible youths to join (he amled forces. implemented by the Government. Some In order to attract technical personnel in Service officers are alJocated for administra- the armed forces, various educational in- tion and Trade Inspection Duties, as per stitutions are being \-lsited from time to recommendations of the Committ~~. time by senior service officers. Two cadre Service officers are necessary in administra- reviews bave been carried out to improve tion to deal with staff and administra tive the promoth1nal avenues of officers includ. matters of Services Officers and staff in ing the technical cadres. The Fourth the DG! Organisation. In the 'Civil Trade Pay Commission is also considering Inspection' the user experienee of the improvement in the terms and conditions ~ervice Officers is relevant. of armed forces personnel. , - ~ 107 Writtelf Answer, MARCH 5, 1986 log

Visit of US President of the Government of Raja~than for inclusion of Aravali ranges under HADP is 1465. SHRI SATYENDRA NARA- under examination by the National Atlas YAN SINHA; Will the Minister of EX- & Thematic Mapping Organisation, Cal- TERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state : cutta in the light of the recommendations of the Working Group on Hill Areas. (a) whether the President of the Uni- tcd States will be visiting this country; In any event, out of 11 districts of (b) if so, whether the issue of contin- Aravali ranges in Rajasthan, 10 districts ued US arms aid to Pakistan will be discu- are fully or partially covered under the ssed with the US President; and special area development programmes like Tribal Development or Desert Development (c) what other issues will be con- and are receiving Special Central Assis- sidered for discussion during this visit? tance under either of the two. The drought and famine conditions can be tackled THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE through the much larger resources of the MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS State Plan which should provide thrust to (SHRI K.R. NARAYANAN): (a) The anti-drought and ecological programmes, President of United States has been invi- particularly through massive afforestation. ted to pay an official visit to India. The President has accepted the invitation, but Passport Office at Kurukshetra th e dates for the \ isit have not been finalised as yet. 1467. SHRI DHARA?t.1 PAL SINGH MALIK: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL (b) and (c) The t\\ 0 leaders would AFFAIRS be pJeased to state: discuss regional and international issue;; as well as matters of bilateral interest to (a) whether there is any proposal under either side. the consideration of Government to set up a passport oilice in Kurukshetra in Hac. Hill Areas Development Programme in yana State; and Rajastban (b) if so, the time by which it will start 1466. PROF. NIRMALA KUMARI functroning ? SHAKTAWAT: Will the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (a) whether Government intend to aive (SHRI K.R. NARAYANAN): (a) No, special assistance to Rajasthan Govern- Sir. ment under Hill Areas Development Pro- gramme in order to enrich again the Ar- (b) Does not arise. avali hilly regions afforestation for environ- nlental improvement and if not whether Freedom F~ghters Pension Cases there is any other scheme to maintain the natural balance; and 1468. SHRI D.K. NAIKAR : WjJ1 the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pJeased (b) whether there is any proposal to to state: include Hill Areas Development Pro- gramme in the plan in order to face (a) number of cases for grant of free- Rajasthan? dom fighters' pensions pending from Karnataka State from 1983 tin date; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) how many of them are pending for (SHRI A.K. MINISTRY OF PLANNING want of information from the State Gover- PANJA) : (a) and (b) The coverage of Hill nment; and Area Development Programwe (HADP) docs not at present include the Aravali hill (c) when these cases will be disposed relions Qf Rajasthan. However, the claim of? It' Written An,wers PHALGUNA 14, 1907 (SAKA) Written An,we,., 110

THE MINISTER OF HOME Rifle witb Telescopic Sight AFFAIRS (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): The information for the State is as under: 1470. SHRI TARIQ ANWAR: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be plea- (a) As on 31.12.1983 5855 sed to state : 31.12.1984 3768 (a) whether A. 2 rifle with telescopic sight was found at the Palam Airport on 31.12.1985 2640 Feb. 7, 1986; 31.1.1986 2378 (b) whether it was intended for a major crime at the airport or it was to be (b) 1837 despatched to some one;

(c) These cases will be disposed of as (c) whether there \\as ammunition i.e. soon as possible after the verification cartridge also therein; reports are recieved from the Government of Karnataka. (d) whether an enquiry was made to ascertain the fact; and Designing of Train Protection System for Victoria Underground Railway (e) if so, finding thereof?

1469. SHRI HAROOBHAI MEHTA: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to DEPARTMENT OF INTERNAL SECU- state: RITY (SHRI ARUN NEHRU): (a), (d) and (e): One ·22 bore rifle with teles- (a) the progre~~ made by the Elec- copic sight was found on Feb. 6, 1986 in tronics Corporation of India Limited, in the domestic departure hall of the Delhi the matter of design and development of Airport. Investigations ha\ e shown that cab signalli ng and Automatic Train this was left behind inadvertently by a Protection Systems ior victoria underground passenger. Railv.ay~; (b) and (c) No, Sir.

(b) whether the system has been Atomic Power Plant at Kakrapar sup plied to RailVl ays or Calcutta Matro; and 1471. SHRI RANJITSINGH GAEK- WARD: Will the PRIME f\IINISTER be (c) jf not, the reasons. for non-supp Iy pleased to state: of the system? (a) whether Atomic Po\\-er Plant is proposed to be set up at Kakrapar in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Gujarat; MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- (b) its generating capacity; MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT. ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS (c) the time by which the Atomic AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PA- Power Plant at Kakrapar likely to be TIL) : (a) Electronics Corporation of India commissioned; and Limited is not making any Cab Signalling (d) whether proper safety measures & Automatic Train Protection systems for are being taken? Victoria Underground RaiI"-ay. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- (b) An Autonlatic Train Protection NOLOGY & IN THE DEPARTMENTS System developed in close co-operation OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC with the Metro Railway, Calcutta, has ENERGY, ELECTRONICS AND SPACE bQeo supplied to the Metro Railway. (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) Yes Sir. 111 Wr1tt ell Answers MARCH S, 1986 Written An,we,.. 112

(b) The station consists of two units Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased of 235 MW each. to state:

(c) The two units are expected to be (a) whether there has been any parley commissioned during 1990-91 and 1991-92 between Pakistan and India for the Hbera.. respectively. lisation of visa rules and procedures;

(d) Yes, Sir. (b) if so, the details thereof; Restoration of suspended cases of (c) the action taken in the InaUer; Swatantrata Sainik Samman Pension of and Assam 1472. SHRI SUDARSAN DAS: (d) number of vi~as i~~ued from both WiJl the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be the sides in each month during ]985 and pleased to state: in January, J986?

(a) whether Government ha\ e re..,- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE toned Swatantrata Sainik Samman penSIon DEPARTMENT OF INTERNAL SECU- to 700 persons of Karin1ganj and Cachar RITY (SHRI ARUN NEHRU) : (a) to (c) District of Assam out of 1774 cases suspen- Yes, Sir. The n1atter is under examina- ded in 1975 and later cancelled by the tion. Ministry of Home Affairs;

(b) whether Government of A.,sam (d) A ~tatcment indicating the total number of visas issued for Pak nationals have recommended some more ca5e~ for by our Mj .... ~ions in Pa~ istan is given below. restoration; and The visas for Indians going to Pakistan is granted by the Pak Missions in India for (c) if so, the number of pen~ion ca~e!-> so far restored, number of cases pending which no information is available. consideration and the bao;;is on which the cases for restoration are being considered? Statement

THE MINISTER OF HOME AFF- AIRS (SHR I S.B. CHA VAN) : (a) The !\1onth No. of visa~ issued Government of India have restored S\va- tantrata Sainik Samman Pension in 521 January, 1985 4825 cases of 1774 cases where pension was suspended in 1975 and later cancelled. February, 1985 4946 March, 1985 10,476 (b) and (c) In addition to 521 cases where pension has been restored on the April, 1985 11 ,345 recommenda tion of the Government of Assam, the State Government had recom- May, 1985 9719 mended restoration of pension in 5 more June, 1985 8628 cases. These 5 cases are pending dech,ion "'·or ""ant of certain clarifications sought July, 1985 11 ,023 from the State Government. Restoration August, 1985 of pension is done on the ba'iis of StaLe 9856 Government's recommendation and sub- September, J985 13, J44 sequent scruitiny of the documents pro- Octoher, 1985 duced in the H0111e Mini~try. 15,386 November, 1985 Liberalisation of Visa Rules Between 13,488 India and Pakistan December, 1985 15,355 1473. SHRIMATI PATEL RAMABEN January, 1986 13,031 llAMJIBHAI MA V ANI Will the 113 PHALGUNA 14, 1907(SJ4K.4} 114

Recommendations Made at Manali also been received from the people for the Meetilll of Northern Zonai Council total acquisition of the villages and not part acquisition so as to keep their proper 1474. PROF. NARAIN CHAND rehabilitation in view; and PARASHAR : Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state : (d) if so, the decision of Govern- ment in this regard? (a) the main recommendations made THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE at the meeting of the Northern Zonal DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE, RE- Council held at ManaJi in Himacha:I Pra- SEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT (SHRI desh in October 9 1985 and the action taken ARUN SINGH) : (a) to (d) A proposal by Government of India thereon as related to acquire land in some \'illages of Dist- to the Centre; and rict Una is in a preiiminary stage. No decision in the matter has been taken by (b) the likely date by which the deci- Government. sions taken by the Council would be iln- plemented by the respective States con- Rocket Testing RaDge at Baliapal(Ori... ) cerned ? 1476. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- THE MINISTER OF HOME AFF- CHANDRAN : Will the Minister of AIRS (SHRI S. B. CHA VAN): (a): A DEFENCE be pleased to state: number of issues relating to economic and social development in the region were dis- (a) whether in spite of recommenda- cussed. These included de velopment of tions to locate the rocket testing range in power projects, allocation of power, ex- a less populous area, Government have pansion of Radio/TV network, promotion decided to locate the same at Baliapal of industries in backward areas, problem (Orissa) y,hich is said to be thickly of inter-State migrant workmen, conlrol populated; of Malaria etc. Action on the recommendations made by the Council is taken (b) if so, reasons therefor; by the concerned Central Ministries/ Planning Commission and State Govern- (c) how many families are loing to n,ents. be affected thereby; and

(b) The Council is an advisory body (d) Government plans to compensa- whose recommendations/ suggestions are te/rehabilitate them? invariably considered by the State Govern- ments for taking further action. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE RESEA- Firing Practice Range in Himachal Pradesh RCH AND DEVELOPMENT (SHRI ARUN SINGH): (a) A National Range 1475. PROF. NARAIN CHAND is proposed to be set up in coastal area PARASHAR: \'1 ill the Minister of of Balasore District in Orissa. The acqui- DEFENCE be pleased to state : sition of area for the Range will be the minimum essential to reduce the popula- (a) whether Government have decided tion likely to be displaced~ keeping in view to acquire land for building 'firing practice the technical, operational and safety range~ in Pambla and other villages in requirements. Una District of Himachal Pradesh; (b) Balasor~ coastal area i! the (b) if so, the area proposed to be only suitable site in the country for setting acquired i'or this purpose in each village up such a critically vital range facility. and the likely date by which it would be acquired; (c) The number of families likely to be affected will be known only aft. dotail-- (e) whether any represontation has cd survey. ItS Wr/~n J'4n.sw-er, MARCH 5. 191(; U6

(d) Adequate compensation will be (b) and (c) While then: ace D:O .direct paid for the land and other assets when efforts at Government level of the two acquired. Plans are now being worked countries, the trade development agencies, oui not only for rehabilitation of the dis- industry associations and individual enter- placed families but also set up a number preneurs have established good contacts of inslitutions that could transform this with their respective counterparts. A semi· region industrially. nar on "Market opportunities for Electro- nics in India~' was organised in Singapore Assessment of F)uctuations in Rainfall in October, 1985. This was followed by a visit of an Electronics delegation from 1477. Dr. B. L. SHAILESH: Will Singapore in December, 1985. the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state whether any attempt has been or is being Amount for Atomic Power Plant made to assess year-to-year fluctuations in rainfall on an all India basis and exa- 1479. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT- mine its utility? NAIK: DR. KRUPASINDHU BHO! : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- state : MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT. ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS (a) the amount earmarked towards AND SPACE, (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. the estab1ishment of the new Atomic Power PATIL) : Yes, Sir. A large number of Stations in the Seventh Plan; and studies have been conducted by the Mete- orologists to assess the year-to-year fluc- (b) the other steps taken in regard to tuations in rainfa]]. This information is the setting up of these plants? being used to understand the nature of Indian monsoon and its relationship with THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE other large scale ocean and atmospheric MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- phenomena. NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- l\1.ENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, Joint Ventures in Electronics ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. 1478. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT- PATIL): (a) Rs. 1410 crores have been NAIK: Will the PRIME MINISTER be earmarked during the Seventh Plan for pleased to state: atomic power projects. (a) whether there is good scope for (b) Action ha.s been initiated for selec- Indo-Singapore joint venture in electro- tion of additional sites for Atomic PoYter nics; Stations to be started during the Seventll Plan. (b) whether efforts ha\e been made by Government of India and the Govern- Jnbians Killed in Iran-Iraq war ment of Singapore to establish joint ven- 1480. SYED SHAHABUDDIN : WjJJ tures in electronics; and the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (c) if so, the steps taken by both the Governments in this regard ? (a) the number of Indians killed in the Iran-Iraq war. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTR Y OF SCIENCE AND TECH- (b) the number of Indians repatriated NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- to India from the war zone; and MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, (c) whether any c,?mpensation has ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS been paid by the Governments of Iran and AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. iraq for the Joss of life and property suff~"'I PATIL): (a) Yes Sir. ftd by IadiaQ,S ? 117 ~lIALr. UNA 14, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answe,s 11~

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE as only 14.19% as per analysis of satellite MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS imagery for 1980-82. (SHRI K.R. NARAyANAN): (a) Accor- ding to the late~t information a total of 22 (b) This information was provided by Indians have died so far as a result of the Nationa 1 Remote Sensing Agency, Iran .. Iraq war since its beginning. Of Hyderabad. these, 18 deaths occurred before end of 1985, while 4 Indians died in February 1986 as a result of attack on a Greek regis- (c) Government propose to make use tered ship in the Gulf. of computers for forest survey work, using remote sensing techniques.

(b) It has not become necessary to Satellite LauDching Stations at Kerala repatriate any Indian national so far during this year. 1482. SHRI SURESH KURUP : Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to (c) Iraqi Government paid compen- state: sation to 7 Indian nationals killed in Basra in September, 1980. The question of com- (a) whether ISRO has not considered pCllsation in the rest of the cases of death Kerala as a suitable place for establishing have been handled directly by the Ship- fll rther satellite launching stations; and pang Compani es concerned with the next of kin as per the employment contracts. The compensation cases of 4 persons who (b) if so, the reasons thereof? died Jast month have been taken up by our Mission with the concerned shipping THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE company. Exact details of loss of property MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH" suffered by Indian nationals. or companies NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART~ are not available. MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT ATOMIC ENERGY, ELEC: Denudation of Forest TRONICS AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ v. PATIL): (a) and (b) The selection 1481. SHRI P. R. KUMARA- of a suitable place for establishing satelJite MANGALAM: Will the PRIME launching stations is based on various con- MINISTER be pleased to state: siderations~ which include, the locations area of land whic h is free of regular po: (a) whether forest cover has dwindled pulation, and most importantly, certain to less than 10 per cent as against 25 per technical constraints such as launch saf'ety, cent laid down under Forest Policy; launch trajectory realisation and launch window constraints. There are no plans (b) whether this information has been as of now to establish a satellite launching provided now by satellite information uni t station in Kerala. The main satellite laun- at Dehradun ; and ching station of ISR 0 already exists at Sriharikota in Andhra Pradesh. (c) whether Government would book this unit up wi th computers to ensure correct and timely information and monito- Leaislatien on Manufacture, Import ring? and Disposal of Hazardous Substances

THE l\ofINISTER OF STATE IN TNE 1483. SHRI B.V. DESAI: Will the MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: FORESTS ~SH:RI Z. R. ANSARI): (a) The registered area of forests in the coun- (a) whether a comprehensive legis- try is 22.73 percent of the total 8oolraphi- lation on manufacture~ import~ use~ dis- cal area as against 33-1/3% laid down in tribution and disposal of Hazardous sub- the National Forest Policy. The actual stances is likely to be introducced in tb~ .rea witb tHe cover has been assessed Parliament; 119 MAkeu 5, 1986

(b) if so. the main objects of the (d) if not, the reasons therefor and "roposed legislation; strategy of Government for en$uring balanced economic. development of backward (c) to what extent the hazards will regions in view of the recommendations be minimized by the chemical and product of national Committee for development of uses; and Backward areas, set by Planning Commis- sion? (d) if so, to what extent the Tiwari Committee's recommendations have been THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE implemented ? MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI A. K. PANJA): (a) and (b) No, Sir. There THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE are only two national high-way on-going MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND projects costing over Rs. 10 crores, and FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) these are making progress, and are not Yes, Sir. languishing for want of funds. Regarding railways lines, there are 14 on-going pro- (b) The main obje<=tive of the legis- jects which were taken up during the Sixth lation will be to reduce risks to human Plan. In the Seventh Plan, priority has health and environment. been accorded to completion of project- oriented Jines, strategic Jines and lines in (c) The proposed legislation infer- the North Eastern Region. In bydel alia aims at undertaking long range mea- generation, there are 17 projects which sures to control ill-effects of hazardous are continuing from the previous Plan substances. Control of such hazardous periods Into the Seventh Plan. However, £ubstances from manufacture/import to pefformance of these protects shows that ultimate disposal will reduce adverse im- for ] lout of these ) 7 projects, the States pact on environment and on health of could not utilise fully the approved out- humans, animals or plants. lays for 1980-84 in respect of these projects. Hence, lack of adequate funds (d) The proposed legislation \\-ill take cannot be ascribed as the reasons for the Tiwari Committee's recommendations non-completion of these projects. on toxic chemicals control fuIJy into account. A Statement listing the above mentioned projects is given below. Projects LaDluishinl for Want of Adequate Fund AJlocation (c) The Seventh Plan gives priority 1484. PROF. NARAIN CHAND to completion of essential on-going projects PARASHAR : Will the Minister of PLAN- which add to the capacity of the system, NING be pleased to state: and provision of funds made to complete al1 such projects/schemes In the Plan (a) whether large number 0: on-going period as far as is possible. projects )ike new railway lines, national highways, hydel generation projects etc. (d) The strategy for ensuring balanced taken up in the Sixth Plan are languishing economic development is cO'ntained in the for want of adequate fund allocation; Seventh Plan document (Page 44, Vol. I) which has already been placed on the (b) if so, the names of projects, cost- Table of the House. mg over Rs. 10 crore in each of above sectors, in each State and steps taken by Statement Government to ensure speedy construction On Going projects costina over Rs. 10 of these projects; crores taken up dU{'ing the Si xth Plan

(e) if not, wbether any priority is Na tiona) HiSh".,. proposed to be given to these projects in 1. Pamban Bridge-Tamil Nadu the Seventh PJan to ensure their comple- tiOD; and 2. Krishna Bridge-Andhra Pradesh .. Wrltun An,wtri 1%i 1~1 ff'ritt'li Ans"~rl PHALGUNA 14, tOO7 (SAXA)

C~ntr.1 AssistaDce to Tripura for Welfare Ran".y Linel of Handicapped 1. Motumari-Jaggayapetta ]485. SHRI AJOY BISWAS: WiJl 2. Bhuj-Natiya the Minister of WELFARE be pleased to 3. Kota-Neemuch state the total amount of Central assistance 4. Talchar-Sambalpur provided to the State of Tripura for the welfare of physically handicapped durin& 5. Koraput-Rayagada the Sixth Five Year Plan ? 6. Karur_Dindigul-Maniyachi-Tuti- corin-Tirunelveli THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 7. Jammu-Udhampur MINISTRY OF WELFARE (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): The total 8. Nanga) Dam-Talwara &. taking amount of Rs. 2,54,081.00 was provided as over Ml;lkerian Talwara siding Central assistance to the State of Tripura 9. Construction of Rail-cum-Road for the Welfare of Physically Handicapped bridge across Brahamputra at Jogig- during the Sixth Five Year Plan under the bopa along with a BG line from following schemes : Jogighopa to Gauhati. 0) Scheme of Scholarships lor disa- 10. Chitradurg-Rayadurg bled persons Rs. 1,74,500.00 ] I. Alleppey-Kayankulam (ii) Assistance to the Organisation 12. Eklakhi-Balurahat for the Welfare of disabled per- 13. Mathura-Alwar sons. Rs. 79.581.00 14. Adilabad-Pimpalkoti Afforestation Programme Hydel Generation Projects: 1486. SHRI MANIK REDDY : Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to .1. Western Yamuna Canal, Haryana state: .2. Andbra H.E. Project, Himachal Pradesh (a) the total number of teees planted under the afforestation programme durini 3. Mahi Bajaj, (Rajasthan) __ Sixth Five Year Plan period, State-wise' .4. Kadana, (Gujarat) . ' 5. Pench, (M.p./Maharashtra) (b) the estimated percentage of survival of these plantations; .6. TiJlari, (Maharashtra) *7. Bhira Tail Race, (Maharashtra) (c) the total expenditure on staff and .8. Balimela DPH, (Andhra Pradesh) inputs separately; 9. Idmaleyar, ()(eraJa) (d) the real impact of this on affores- .10. Kakkad, (Kerala) tation; and 11. Servalar, (Tamil Nadu) (e) whether percentage of forest land .12. Kadamparai PSS, (Tamil Nadu) has increased in the country? 13. Rangali, (Orissa) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE *14. Upper Kolab, (Orissa) MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND *15. Ramman, (West Bengal) FORESTS (SHRI Z. R. ANSAlU): (a> *16. Panchet Hill, (DVC) The information is given in the Statement 17. Lower Borpani, (Assam) below.

(b) The survival percentage in tb• • Projects whose approved allocations plantations raised by tbe Statc/U.T. forest for 1980-84 could not be utilised fully Departments is estimated to be ~• • y tbe States. • ~ I W,l,ttAlI ~, MARCH~, I~

SO to ~~. It is not possIble to give sur. afforestation along roadsides, ca.nafside5 as vival percentage of trees planted by far- also the creation of village woodlots. mers and other agencies/ institutions. A warness of the deforestation damage has also increased. Employment opportuni. (c) The expenditure on this programme ties for the rural poor have increased. in the Sixth Five Year Plan is Rs. 926 crores. This break-up on staff and inputs (e) The percentage of forest land i.e. separately is not readily available. forest cover in the country has actually diminished in the past.' (d) This has stepped up farm forestry and

Statement

Statement showing Statewise number of seedlings planted

Sl. State/U .T. Seedlings planted No. (in lakh Nos.)

1 2 3

1. Andhra Pradesh 5830.61 2. Assam 1487.12 3. Bihar 4269.20 4. Gujarat 10677.10 5. Haryana 3648.08 6. Himacha1 Pradesh 2064.12 7. Jammu and Kashmir 925.66 8. Karnataka 8294.05 9. Kerala 2352.55 10. Madhya Pradesh 12720.15 11. Maharashtra 7673.79 ]2. Manipur 384.53

13. Meghalaya 314.62 14. Nagaland 467.03 15. Orisc;a 4299.89

16. Punjab 2295.46

17. Rajasthan 2300.29 18. Sikkim 288.82

19. Tamil Nadu 4958.87

20. Tripura 648.5j 21. Uttar Pradesh 11240.20 22. West Betti'll 3188.00 23. A. &. N. Islands 348.71 PHALGUNA 14, J907 (S14KA) 124

1 2 3

24. Arunachal Pradesh 511.87

25. Chandigarh 12.90

26, Dadra &. Nagar Haveli 99.98 27. Delhi J08.00

28. Goa, Daman and Diu 86.80 29. Lakshadweep 0.54 30. Mizoram J537.50

31. Pon

[ Trans/lltiolt) grant-in-aid is provided for converting dry latrines into saintary ones in selective towns Carrying Night Soil on Head on 'Whole Town Approach~ basis. 'Integrated Development of Small and 1487. SHRI D.P. YADAVA : Medium Towns' programme under the SHRI R.S. KHIRHAR : Ministry of Urban Deve]opment is also providing low-cost sanitation. This is in SHRI P.R. KUMARAMAN- addition to similar schemes taken up by GALAM: some of the State Governments in their ~tate Plans. Will the ~'hnister of WELFARE be pleased to ~tate : (d) The State Go\ernments are expec- (a) the number of CIties where the ted to provide alternatIve employment to practice of carrying mght-:,oil on the head the unemployed scavengers \\ ho are rende- is in vogue; red unemployed on account of conversion of dry latrines. Special Central Assistance (b) the lime by whlclr Government to Special Component Plans have been expect to do away Wlth this sub-human placed at the disposal of the State Govern- practice; ments for providing nece!)sary training and employment. (c) the details of the ~cheme formulated by Government in this regard; and [ English}

(d) the details of the scheme to gi\e Marine Park in Mabarasbtra alternative jobs to the persons rendered joble~s after the abolition of this vocation? 1488. PROF. MADHU DANDA- VA TE : Will the PRIME MINISTER be THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE pleased to state: MINISTRY OF WELFARE (SHRI GlRIDllAR GOMANGO) : (a) No such (a) whether it is a fact that the proposal information is available in the Ministry about the project of "Marine Park" at of Welfare. Malvan in the Shindhudurg district of the backward Konkan region of Mabarashtra (b) No time limit can be specified to do has been under examination; away with this pr act ice as it depends upon the availability of resources. (b) if so. the progress of this examination: (c) Under the Centrally Sponsored Schome of the Liberation of Scavengers (c) whether Ma Ivan is found suitable pt08ra~ of tll~ Mi\lis1lry of W~falle. for such a projcrct; 127 MARCH '. 1"6 Written .A.nswers 128

(d) the financial provision made for (b) The Council is the highest policy preliminary work of the "Marine Park"; planning and coordinating agency for all and issues concerning the health and scientific management of the country's land resourees. (c) when the work is likely to be I t will oversee the work of the National completed? Land Use and Conservation Board and the National Wastelands Development THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Board. Recommendations of these Boards, MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND which involve larger policy issues, will be FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) placed before the Council for decision. and (b) It has been intimated by the State Government of Maharashtra that they have (c) The existing land use data is approved the project for the establishment reported to be as follows: of a Marine National Park at Malvan in the Sindhudurg district. Classification Area (Million/ah.) (c) Yes, Sir. 1. Forests 67.42 (d) The State Government have in- 2. Not available for cultivation 39.73 formed that no separate financial prOVISIon has been made specificaHy for the preli- 3. Other uncultivated land ex- 32.08 minary work of the marine national park. eluding faIJow Jand. However, it has been intimated that the 4. Fallow land 23.05 State Government can meet the expenditure from available funds. 5. Net sown area 142.00

(e) The techno-economic feasibility Total reporting area for 304.28 report i~ being got prepared by the State land utilisations. Government before implementation of the project. At present, it is not possible to According to the Ministry or' Agricul- indicate a time limit for completion of the ture estimates, the extent of wastelands is work. approximately of the order of 175 m. ha. Distinction Between Solar and Non-Solar National Land Ule and Wasteland Develop- Crystals ment Council 1490. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH : 1489. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK; WiIJ the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased state : to state: (a) whether the customs authoritIes (a) whether Government have establis- have fecilities to distinguish solar and non- hed a National Land Use and Waste1and solar crystals; Development Council under the Chairman- ship of Prime Minister with Chief Ministers (b) if so, details thereof; and and Union Ministers enrolled as members; (c) whether soJar crystals are being (b) if so, the details regarding its pro- imported in the name of non-solar crystals gammes and other functions; and and thereby Government are losing 40 per cent import duty? (c) the details regarding the land in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE use at present and the total extent of MiNISTRY OF SCIENCE AND waste land in India at present? TECHNOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART.. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND ATOMIC ENER.GY, ELECTRONICS FOR.ESTS (SHRJ Z.R. ANSARI): (a) AND SPACE (SHRJ SH1VllAJ V. 'Yea, Sit. rATIL} :

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) TPIC has constituted another MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS \\forking Group on the issue of guidelines (SHRI K.R. NARAYANAN) : (a) to (c) for technology assessment. This Working Before the ceremony for the canceIHltion Group has submitted its report. The Te- of commemorative stamps Indian delegati- chnology Implementation Committee after- on noticed some discrepancy in the stamps due consideration of the report would issued by some countries, including the make recommendations for appropriate depiction in Pakistani stamp of Jammu and further action. Kashmir as a separate territory. This was immediately brought to the attention of (c) Does not arise in \iew of the Bangladesh authorities and consequently above. the ceremony was cancelled. Passport Office at Trivaodrum Identification of Technological Areas of High National Priority 1493. SHRI T. BASH EER : Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be 1492. SHRI H.M. PATEL: WIll the pleased to state: PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : (a) whether in Tri\andrum, capital of Kera1a. there:is no passport office and (a) whether the work of the inter- there is only a passport Liaison Office: departmental group established by the Technology Policy (Technology Policy (b) \\hether there is any proposal Implementation Committee) has identified under Government's consideration to specific areas of high national priorities; upgrade the present Liaison Office to a fuH-f\eged passport office to meet the (b) whether a report has heen requirement of people of South Kerala; submitted by the working group on and meaningful technology assessment, particularly imported technology and whetber (c) if so. by what time the propos~l it has been examined by Government ; aad is llke)y to ~ itnplom~nted ? 131 )viiI/en Answers MA R CH 5, J986 Writ/ell Answers 132

THE MINISTF,R OF STATE IN SHRI KAMAL NATH : MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL THE DR. CAANDRA SHEKHAR (SH,RI NARAYANAN): AFFAIRS K.R. TRIPATHI: (a) Yes, Sir. Will the Minister of HOME At-:"FAIRS (b) No, Sir. Kernla has two [:.:11- be pleased to state : fledged Passport Offices at Cochin and Kozhikode. Kcrala has, thus two (a) whether Government's attention Passport Offices and one Liaison Office has been drawn to the press report appea- which meet the essential requirements ring in the Times of India dated 14 of the people of 'he State in respect of January, J986 wherein it has been stated Passports. that an illicit arms manufacturing racket has been unearthed in the Capital; and (c) Does not arise. (b) if so, whether any arrest has been Army Recruitment Racket made and the action being taken by Government in regard thereto'? 1494. SARI T. BASHEfR : Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE state: DEPARTMENT OF INTERNAL SECU- RITY (SHR[ ARUN NEHRU): (a) (a) whether Government's Yes. attention has been drawn to the news (b) On receipt of information, Delhi item "Racket in recruitment to army Police organised a raid & apprehended two unearthed" appeariug in Times of India, persons for the sale of unauthorised ""ca- dated 7 January, 1;% ; and pons, The unauthorised arms and a.n- munition found in their possession ha ve (b) if so, Ihe steps Government have been seized. Two separate cases u/s 25/ . taken to check this racket ? 54/590i Arms Act have been registered and investigations arc on. The material THE MINISTER OF STATE IN seized has been sent 10 the Central Foren- THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE sic Science Laboratory for expert opinion. RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT (SHRI ARUN SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. Indo-Chl nu Rela rlons

(b) Effective steps have been taken J496, SHRI M. RAGIIUT\IA to check the identity of the individuals RLDDY and the documents on the arri val of recruits at the Training Centres, so that SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOW- cases of bogus recruitment are detected DHARY: immediately. The Training Centres have WiP 01.: Min!<;!t'r of r>:TLRNAL also been told to hand over such bogus AFFAJr.S be p lc.; ,:-i to sta.c : candidates 10 the Civil Police for investigation and render all possible (a) the progress made in regard 10 assistance required by the ,Ci\'jl Police normatisation of the relations between for further processing of such cases. India and China during last one year; and Illicit Arms Manufacturing ill Delhi (h) v..hcthcr any special initiative is \4<)5. SH'{l MANIK REDDY : con.ernplarcd in this regard? SHRI MAHEHDRA SINGI-I S1-1RI i'.1. RAG H U I'IIA THE MINIST£:H OF STATE IN THE RL.Dl")-/ : T\lINISTRY OF EXTERN:\L AFFA1RS (SHRI K. R. NARAY ANAN) : (a) SHRI SARFARAZ AHMAD: lff'orts to normalise and improve relations ~:U r\lS. fl b 1-; i\ ~~H YAP,'\ Y:. \\'ilh lite' I'o;'opie"; r:epllhlil.' "I' Chiof~ were iH Ft rlttcn AnsWl?rs PHAL(;l'NA l4, 1901(SAKA) Written Answers 134

continued during 1%1. During the 61h [English] Round 0;' Official Level talks held between India and China in November J985. both Implementation of 20·t>oint Programme sides commenced substant ive di-;ClISS:OIlS 14%. SHRl AKHTAR HASAN : on the boundary question. ;\ settlement of the qucnion of Indian Lrnbassy pro- SHRI MURLlDHAR MANE: perty in Bcijing was reached. Program- smu BANWAKI LAL mes of Cultural and Scientific HIl(1 Tcchno- PUROHIT : logical exchanges in various fields of SHRIGURUDASKAMAT: mutual interest were also fina lised. A Trade Protocol bclweenl ndia ami China SHRIMA TI lAY ANTI: was signed jn November 1985. PATN1\IK: SHRI S.G. GHOLAP : (b) Considerable preparatory work requires to .be done and a proper atrnos- Will the Minister of PROGRAMI\.IE phere conducive 10 a final settlement of IMPLEMENTATION be pleased to the boundary question has to be created, slate: before any special initiarivcs arc undertaken. (a) whether instructions have been given afresh by Union Government to the [Transl ation] States to implement Ihe 20-Point Program- me effectively; Constructlon of Kimtoli·Rosal RI)"~ in Pithoragarh (U.P.) (b) if so, i hc reactions or the i Statcs in the matter; and 1497. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the PRIME [vIlNISTER be pleased 10 (c) whether the position regarding state : the implementation is reviewed at intervals with the respective States: (a) whether necessary approval has been accorded for the construction of the proposed Kimroli-Rosal Road in district THE NIlNfSTEROF P£.OGRAMME Pithoragarh (U .P.) under Forest Act; IMPLEMENTATION (SHRl A.B.A. . GHANI KHAN CHOUDHURY): (a) (b) if so, when; No such instructions have been given by the Ministry of Programme Implementa- (c) whether the approval of Union tion. Government is also necessary to acquire unrncasured land for this construction (b) Does not arise. work under (he said Act; and (c) No, Sir. From lime to time Sta- (d) if not, whether this position has tes' attention is drawn to the points in since been clarified to the concerned State which performance is poor and to the need Government '? fortaking effective steps for their speedy implementation. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND Defence Production Units in Bihnr FORESTS (SHRI Z ..R. ANSART): Yes, Sir. 1499. SHRIMATl KISHORI SINHA : Will the rvIinisier of DEFENCE be plea- (b) On 23rd March, 1%5 sed to state :

(c) & (d) Under the provision'; of the (a) whether there are any defence Forest (Conservation) Act, 1980, (he prior production units located in Bihar; approval of the Central Government is required before any forest land is used for (b) if so, their location and types of any non-forest purpose. arms manuracturcd by them; Written A""wl'" MAR.cH 5, 1986 Writteu AlUw~r.

(c) whether any plans for their ex- (b) Government received information pansion diversification and/or moderni- that the Max Mueller Bhavan, Bombay sation have been included in the Seventh was proposing to hold a Seminar on Five Year Plan; and 'Nuclear Safety' from 2-4 December, 1985. The Max Mueller Bhavan is a purely cul- (d) if not, reasons therefor? tural organisation. It has some offices in India, and its specifically assigned role is THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the teaching of the German language and DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE PRO- dissemination of German culture. As the DUCTION AND DEFENCE SUPPLIES subject of the Seminar did not conform to (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) and (b) Mis this a~signed role, the Embassy of the Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers Federal Republic of Germany readily agreed Limited ~ave a Unit in Ranchi, Bihar to Government's suggestion that the Semi- which manufactures Diesel engines for nar be ca ncelled. warine application under licence. No arms are manufactured in this Unit. (c) and (d) Does not arise.

(c) The Company has recently en- Closure of Tribal National Volunteers tered into a Licence Agreement '"' ith a Training Camp West European country fort~he production, assembly and testing of more tuel efficient 1501. SHRJ AJOY BISWAS Will high speed Diesel Engines for both com- the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be ple- mercial and Naval applications. It is ased to state : envisaged that the existing facilities at Ranchi would be modernised and the tech- (a) \\ hether Govermnent have taken nologies upgraded by making marginal up with the Bangladesh Government the investments, where necessary. quest ion of closing down the Tribal Na- tional Volunteers training camps in the (d) Does not arise. Chittagong Hill Tracts and if so, the result thereof; Cancellation ot Seminar on Nuclear Safety (b) whether Government have received a set of proposal from the Tripura 1500. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: Government suggesting measures to check Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFF- Tribal National Volunteers infiltration and AIRS be pleased to state: for effectively fighting their violent activities; and (a) whether it is a fact that Go"ernment had requested the Federal Repubhc (c) if so, the details of proposals and of Germany to cancel the Seminar on the reaction of Government thereto? Nuclear Safety' scheduled to be held in Bombay in the first week of December, 1985; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF lNTERNAL SECU- (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and RITY (SHRI ARUN NEHRU): (a) The Government has taken up with the Govern- ment of Bangladesh the question of closing (c) whether Government had with- down the training camps of Tripura held permi~sion to any other foreign coun- National Volunteers in the Chittagong try also in hoJding Seminars of "iuch type Hill Tracts area of Bangladesh. Their in the past; and cooperation is expected. (d) if so, the details thereof? (b) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (c) Broadly, the (oHow;ng proposals ($HAl K.R. NARAYANAN) (a) Ye~, have been received from the Government Sir. of Tripura : 137 PI-IALGUNA 14, 1907 (SAKA)

(i) induction of additional para-mili- TRIPATHI : Win the Minister of HOME tary forces for anti-extremist ope- AFFAIRS be pleased to state: rations and law & order; (a) whether it is a fact that Govern- Oi) strengthening of border oUtpoSt5; ment propose to increase the strength of Border Security Force; (iii) early constr'uctio11 of border roads.

The para-military forces in Tripura are (b) jf so, the extent to which and the being suitably augmented. A progr3mme time by which its strength is proposed to be increased; and for strengthening the border outposts in the north-east has been approved. Construc- tion of border road5 is being taken up in (c) the additional expenditure likely stages. to be incurred by the Government as .. result of this increase? Evaluation of Experience Gained hy Scientists Sent Abroad THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1502. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK DEPARTMENT OF INTERNAL SECU- Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased RITY (SHRI ARUN NEHRU): (a) Yes, to state : Sir.

(a) the number of young scientists (b) It is proposed to increase the sent on international tra\eI by Govern- strength of the Border Security Force on ment of India during Sixth Plan period. the Indo-Pakistan and the Indo-Bangladesh under the scheme "Promotion of Scientlfc borders, substantial1y over a five-year Interest in Youth"; period starting from 1986-87. (b) whether Government have made any evaluation of their observation and (c) About Rs. 553,79 crores over the experiences; and five-year period.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Setting up of l'ational Euviroamental MINISTR Y OF SCIENCE AND TECH- Managemeat Institute NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, 1504. SHRI DIGVIJAY SINH: Will ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS the PRJ M E MINISTER be pleased to AND SPACE, (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. state : PATIL): (a) 132 (One Hundred and thirty two) : (a) whether any provision has been made in the Seventh Five Year Plan for (b) and (c) The scheme has given the setting up of a National Environmen- better opportunities to young scientists to tal Management Institute; and interact with the international scientific community, thus providing them first hand (b) if so, the financial aHocations experience of new developments in their made for this purpose so far '? fields of research. It is expected that this will enhance the scientific interest THE ~nNISTER OF STATE IN THE among the youth. The relevant infor- M1NISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND mation contained in the reports from the FORESTS (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): young scientists is disseminated amongst (he (a) Nu prOVISJon has been made in scientific community. the Seventh Five Year Plan for the setting [TrlUU lal ion) up of the National Environmental M~nage Increase in Str~Dlth of Border Security ment Institute. Force lS03. DR. CHANDR;A SHEKHAR (b) Does not arise. Written An,wer, MARCH 5, 1986

Setting up of Bio~phere Reserves l'ormation of Rehabilitation Council

1505. SHRI DIGVIJAY SINH: Will 1506. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to Will the ~1inister of \VELFARE be pJeased state : to refer to reply given to Unstarred Ques- tion No. 6872 on 16 May, 1985 resarding (a) The 13 Bivspherc Rc:-,erves pro- setting up of Rehabilitation Council and posed to be set up in the Seventh Five state : Year Plan; and (a) whether a decision has been ta- (b) the progress n1ade in this regard? ken for forming a Rehabilitation Council;

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) whether the proposal legislation MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND wiII be introdllced in the Parliament; FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) and (b) 13 potential sites have been iden- (c) whether any occupational and tified for setting up of Biosphere Reserves Physiotherapists ha\e been taken in the in India. The sites are Council~

1. NHgiri (d) if not, the rea~ons thereof; and 2. Namdapha (e) who are the other members talen 3. Nokrek (TUfa Range) in the Council? 4, Nanda Devi 5. Uttar Khand THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THe MINISTRY OF WELFARE (SHRI 6. Gulf of Mannar GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Yes, Sir. 7. Sundarbans The Council ha~ been set up through a 8. Thar Desert Resolution. 9. Mannas (b) On the basis of expedenee gained, 10. Rann of Kutch a legislation for replacing the Resolution 11. North Islands of Andamans would be considered in due course. 12. Kaziranga (c) No, Sir. 13. Kanha In the Seventh Five Year Plan period (d) These categories are not included it is proposed to set up 3 or 4 Biosphere in the Council at thi s stage. Reserves. (e) A statement regarding composi- 2. Project documents have been pre- tion of the Council is given below. pared for the following proposed Biosphere Reserves: Statement The composition of the General Body (i) N ilgir j of the Council shall be : (ii) Namdapha 1. Chairman (to be nominated by the (iii) Nanda Devi Ministry of Welfare). Nokrek CV) 2. Representatives from the Ministries of (v) Uttar Khand Welfare, Health, Labour, Finance and Department of Education. The first Biosphere Reserve is proposed 3. Director General, Indian Council ot to be Bet up in the Nilgiris, Action plans Medical Research or his nominee • are being finalised in consultation with the State Govt5. of Kerala, Tamilnadu and 4. Five representatives of State Govern.. Karnataka. ments (by rotation) .. 141 Writl~n Answer, PHALGUNA 14, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answer, 142

5- Five experts in the field representing THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE each major disability group. MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI) : (a) 6. Secretary of the Council-Member The National R.emote Sensing Agency Secretary. (NRSA) Hyderabad had carried out a comp['rison of the forest cover as it exis- The Composition of the Executive ted during 1972-75 with that obtaining Body of the Council shall be : during 1980-82, based on sateJlite imagery for the rele\-ant yea rs. This has revealed 1. Chairman to be nominated by the that the forest cover in the country has Governnlent out of the Members of the gone down as under :- General Body. Year Extent under fcrest Percent forest 2, Representative of Minhtry of Welfare. cover (in nlillion area to total hcctare~) geographical 3, Two expert~ in the field of Rehabilita- area (~~) tion.

4. Financial Ad\ iser or hi~ rcpresentati\e. 1972-75 55.52 16.89 1980-82 46.35 14.10 5, Representative of MiOl~try of Labour. ---- Estimated 9.17 2.79 6. Secretary of the Coundl reduction M ~mber Secretary.

Forest Cover in India (b) According to the sunery made by National Remote Sensing Agency, the Forest cover in I\1adhya Pradesh has gone 1507. SHRI M I\HENDRA SI~GH down by 17 percent from 10.86 million ha. SHRI BA~\:VARI LAL PURO. in 1972-75 to 9.02 million ha. in 1980-8Z. HIT The present forest area of the State "'orls out to 20.37 pereent of the total geographi- Will the PRl:vI E ~llNISTER be c ..tl area of the State. pleased to state (c) The following action is being taken (a) the percentage of the area in India by the Government to control deforesta- covered under forests as per the study tion undertaken through satellite by the Space department's 'National Remote Sensing ti) Strict enforcement of Fore!)t (Con- Agency', Hyderabad and space Application servation) Act, 1980 requiring the Centre, Ahmedabad and the area in kilo- State Governments to seek the meters denuded of forcsb during the ]a~t pilar approval of Central GO\ ern- 10 years; ment for dl\tersion of forest area co non-forest purposes. Since (b) whether It IS a facl that on the the time of the enactment, the basis of said study about 19 per cent of a \ erage rate of such diversion the forests in Madhya Pradesh have been fen to about 6500 ha. per annum cut dUTIng the last 7 years and the forest as against average 1.5 Jakh ha. per which now exist form only about 20 per annum pre\ iousi). cent oi the area in the State as against 38 per cent, as stated by the International (ii) Strict enforcement of the Indian Forests Congress in 1978; and Forest Act. 1927 and of various other enactments to prevent una u- thorised felling of trees. (c) the action being taken by Go\-ernment on the basis of said study and the (iii) Elimination of the agency of con- position of tbe f~)fc!SlS in the: C()Ulury at tractors in the working of forcst~ present and sev~n ye3rs back? in most of the States. Written An6K'erS MARCH 5, 1986 144

(iv) Setting up of National Wastelands (Translation] Development Board with the object of raising 5 million ha. Atomic Power Generation of plantation every year for fuel and fodder and enlisting people's 1509. SHRI DILEEP SINGH cooperation therefor. BHURIA: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to sta te : (v) Creation of fuelwood reserve by undertaking massive tree planta- (a) the per unit cost of generation of tions within and outside the forest atOluic power; areas. (b) the target fixed in regard to the (vi) Taking up of intensive studies of atomic power generation during the Seventh the problems of grazing, encroach- plan; and ment and shifting cultivation with a view to find long-term solutions. (c) whether new atomic power generation plants will be instaIled to achieve the target? Higb Technology and Electronics Develop- ment Bank for Electronics Industry THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND 1508. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: TECHNOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART. Will the PRIM E MINISTER be pleased to IvIENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, state : ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS AND SPACE (SHRJ SHIVRAJ V. (a) whether the President of the Indo- PA TI L) : (a) The rate ot' sale of electricity Amerken Chamber of Commerce. North for the theree Atomic Power Stations is as India Council has called for setting up of foHows : a high technology and electronics develop· ment bank to promote the growth ot in- Tarapur Atomi(.; Power 37.29 Paise/Kwh digenous electronics industry; Station

(b) if so, the broad features of the Rajasthan Atomic 35.49 Paise/Kwh proposed electronics development bank; Power Station and Madras AtoJnic Power 43.03 Paj~e/Kwh (c) the GoYernments reaction thereto? Station Unit-I

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) and (c) The installed capacity of MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND N udear Power Stations is targetted to reach TECHNOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- 1700 MWe by the end of the Seventh" Five MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT. Year Plan. To achieve this target, ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS & one unit of 235 MWe (MAPP-2) has SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL) : (a) already been comnlissioned in 1985 at Yes, Sir. Kalpakkam, Tamil Nadu and two units of 235 MW electricity each are to be com- (b) The above suggestion was given at nlissioned at Narora, Uttar Pradesh, a Seminar. Details of the features of the during the Seventh Plan period. In addi- suggested development bank are not availa- tion, as a part of 10,000 MWe nuclear ble as no written proposal has been recei- power programme, two units of 235 "MW ved by the Department of Electronics so electricity each are under construction at far. Kakrapar, G ujarat. Similarly, two units each of 235 MW electricity have been (C) Does not arise in view of (b) approved for setting up at Kaiga in Karna. .. taka and Rawatbhata in Rajasthan_ •.bov •. PHALOUNA f4. 1907 (SAKA) ~rlttenJf~

De.. ~lepme.t of Forests in Desert Area. culars of sm4lglod goods recovered: from of RaJastban them; and

1510. SHRI BANWARI LAL (c) the steps taken to chec:k ."ell a BAIRWA : Will the PRIME MINISTER large scale infiltration and smuggliDa ? be pleased to state whether it is a fact that a special programme is being prepared for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THo development of forests in the desert areas DEPARTMENT OF INTERNAL SECU- oi Rajasthan; if so, the details thereof? RITY (SHRI ARUN NEHRU) : (a) Ther. is no report that there has been ao abrupt TH'E MINISTER OF STATE IN THE rise in infiltration and smuggling. thou&h a MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND marginal increase was noted. FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): The Desert Development Programme has (b) 3,067 infiltrators were intor~ been launched in 11 desert districts of in Punjab and Rajasthan borders and 6" Rajasthan State. The following works are no in Indo-Bangladesh border during the lut carried out under this programme :- 6 months. Heroin, opium, charas, geld, weapons, garments, electronic goods, beedi, (i) Sand-dune stabilisation and pasture betal lea ves, cardamom, currency, pr~iou~ development stones etc. worth about Rs. 6.01 crores were recovered from them. (ii) Village fuelwood and fodder plantations (e) The security forccs on Indo-Pak (iii) Silvipastoral pIantation~ and Indo-Bangladesh borders are on alert. Measures taken for strengthening surveil- (iv) Mixed plantations lance along Indo-Pak and Indo-Bangladesh borders include: strengthening of BSF, (v) Shelter-belt plantations aloni: establishing addItional border outposts, roads construction of observation post tower~ and providing increased mobility to border (vi) Reforestalion of degraded fore~ts patrols etc.

(vii) Canal bank plantations Transfer of Technology for Manufacture of Telecommunication Items (viii) Farm forestry-distribution of seedling to farmers 95272 hectares 1512. KUMARI PUSHPA DEYI : Will have been planted and 2.62 the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to million seedlings have been distri- state : buted under thls progran1me. (a) \\ hether Government have identified some foreign firms for transfer of technology for manufacture of telecommunication Ri.. io Infiltration and SmuggliDIl items in the country;

1511. SHRI P.M. SAYEED : Will the (b) if so. the names of the companies MINISTER of HOME AFFAIRS be and the countries from where such transfer pleased to sta te : of technology is proposed~

(a) whether it is a fact that recently (c) whether Government propose to there has been an abrupt rise in infiltration consider entrusting the task to some more and smuggling from across the border with companies, i! their technology in the field PakisU.a in Punjab, Rajasthan and Bangla- of telecommunication products proves to desk border in the eastern sector; be more advanced; and

(b) the number of such persons inter- (d) the progress made by the Indian cepted durinS the last 6 months with ,arti- manufacturing companies in tbe production W,ltten Answers MARCH '. 1916 141

of telecommunication items during the (d) how many hours durina a year Sixth Five Year Plan period ? these computer systems have worked 5ince their installation; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND (e) what are the economic and other TECHNOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- gains which have been obtained by the use MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, of these computers? ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE PATIL) : (a) and (b) The Government f\1INISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- have selected three foreign collaborators NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- for the transfer of technology for Electro- MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, nic PA BX equipment and three other fore- ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECT- ign collaborators for Electronic push RONICS AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ button telephones, Details of the foreign V. PA TIL) : (a) to (e) Tbe information collaborators and the country from where wiIJ be collected and laid on the Table of transfer of technology proposed are as the Lok Sabha. follows: Licences to Kera)a for Electronic Items £EPABX 1514. SHRI V.S. VIJAYARAGHAVAN: (i) Jeumont Schneider, France. Win the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to to state: (ii) OKI Electric Industry Co., Japan. (iii) GTE, Belgium. (a) the nunlber of licences issued to Kerala for manufacturing different electro- Telephone Instruments nics items during 1985;

(i) Mis Siemenc;; AG, West Germany (b) various concessions available to entrepreneurs for setting up electron- (ji) M/s Ericsson Information Systems, nics manufacturing units; Sweden

(iii) Mis ITT Face, Italy. (c) whether adequate I11arketing arrangements exist at present for these products; (c) No Sir. and

(d) During the Sixth Five Year Plan (d) whether Government keep in view period, the production of telecommunica- the market potential of various pro ducl~ tion items has grown from Rs. 184 crores whi1e granting licences? to Rs. 320 crores. THE i\1INISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTF.Y OF SCIE:KCE AND c Computer System in Ministries TECHNC ~_OGY /,,,~,, J IN THL DEPART-' ]513. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Will MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, the PRIME MINISTER be' pJeased to ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS state : AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) During ]985,27 Letters of (a) what is the total number of compu- lntent/lndustrial Licences have been issued ter systems instaded in various ministries to units in Kerala for manufacture of differ- of the Central Covernment; ent Electronic items.

(b) what is the total cost of installing (b) Details of concessions available to these computer systems; entrepreneurs in electronics are gi ven ill the Statement below. (c) how many persons ha ve been employed on these computer systems, break up ministry ... wise; PHALGtJNA 14,1907 (SAKA) Written Answers ISO

(c) Yes Sir, when granting licences capital goods exceedin& Rs. 1 crore. which would call for an investment in Statf'ment Fina.ei.1 Incentives Available for Electronic Industry

(i) Geaeral Incentives

Depreciation allowance of 2'J" 0 for electronics industry·

Electronics industry included in Schedule IX of the Income Tax Act thereby enjoying certain tax benefits. Rationalized fiscal pt))icies whereby proving raw materials and manufacturing equipment at the lowest cost.

Import duty on plant and machinery for electronics indu<;try is 25~o.

(ii) Gonsumer Eleetronics Excite Duty No excise duty on BjW TV sets upto screen size 36 cms. E,.;cise duty of Rs. 300 for BjW TV sets (above 36 ems), Rs. 600 for 36 ems CTV seb and Rs. 900 for 51 ems CTV sets.

15% exci~e duty on tape recorders, two-in-one and calculators. No licence fee on TV receivers, radios, two-in-one, VCR etc. One time special excise dut) of Rs. 108 on TV receivers (includini 36 cnl BjW TV sets).

No excise duty on radio manufactured in smalI sca1e upto Rs. 165. Maximum 0 excise duty on radios is 20 0 , No import of consumer e1ectronic products is allowed except as personal baggage on which duty upto 235<}~ is levied.

(iii) Computers Excise Duty No excise duty on computers including CPU and peripherals.

Import D otf 00 Sy~tems

200~~ duty on all systems imported under OGL.

60% duty on all systems cleared by DOE (including those costing tess than Rs. 10 lakhs elF).

No import duty on certain advanced computers. Import Duty on Peripherals/Parts of Peripherals

60<}{, import duty on floppy disk drives, winchester drives, serial printers including dot matrix printers and daisy wheel printers. 25% import duty on line printers, paper tape readers. paper tape punches, card readers, magnetic drives etc.

5% import duty on parts (other than electronic componenTs) for the manu .. facturo of line printers, serial printers, terminals, magnetic drives, di_&itizCfS, etc. 151 MARCH 5, 1986

Import Duty OD Compont-nts for Computers

25~1o import duty on 4 electronic components (all types of ·US, connectors, . PCBs above 6 layers and high resolution CR TS) imported for computers and computer peripherals devices.

75~~ duty on other electronic components.

ImJOrt Duty on Software No duty on software when imported in source code as printed matter on paper.

60?~ duty on software (both as source code or object code) imported on any other media (same as that for computer systems and peripherals),

(iv) Electronic Compooennts Import Dut, on Components

75~~ import duty on most of the components.

25°/~ import duty on 4 components (LSI, connectors, PSB above 6 layers and monitor tubes) required by computer industry. -l00~ri import duty on magnefic tapes. 1m, ert Duty on Inputs for Components

All capital goods can be imported at 25°~) duty under project import.

No duty on 17 items for manufacture of 8-types of components and sub- components.

15~~ if!lport duty on 18 items for manufacture of components and sub- components.

4O~o import duty on 76 items for manufacture or variety of components. Normal import duty on other raw materials.

Steps to Reduce Noise I .. evel in Metropo- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN litan Cities THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. .l\NSARI): 1515. SHRJ H.N. NANJE GOWDA: (a) The survey conducted by the All India SHRI G.S. BASAV ARAJU : Institute 01 Medical Sciences indicates high SHRI SANAT KUMAR MAN- noise Jevels in certain busy traffic roads. DAL: However, these are not more than double the prescribed internati onal limit. Witt the PRIME MINISTER be plea- (b) Improvement in road and traffic sed to state : nlovement, restriction on use of loud horns, regulated movement of heavy vehi- (a) whether according to a survey con- cles and publicity campaign are among the ducted by the All India Ino:;titute of Medi- steps taken under the civic Jaws by the cal Sciences it has been revealed that the local authorities. noise level of the country~s metropolitan American Military aid to Pakistan cities is more than double the prescribed international limit ; and 1516. DR. B.L. SHAILESH : SHRI SANAT KUMAR MAN- DAL: (b) if so~ the steps contemplated by Govemment in this reprd to reduce the SHRIK.PRADHANI: noise level in the metropolitan cities? Will the Minister of EXTERNAL .: I 1 . ,~rillen AlLJwers .1.)4

AFFAIRS be 1'Ieased to state: MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS (a) whether long-range maritime pat- AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. (a) (c) 1'01 aircraft and mOTe Harpoon missiles PATIL) : and Unit-2 of Madras are figuring in American mi litary aid to Atomic Power Station was synchronised to the grid in September 1985 and the two Pakistan in 1987 ; units at Narora in Uttar Pradesh are ex- (b) whether following the US Adminis- pected to be commissioned during the tration9 s decision to boost aid to Pakistan Seventh Plan Period. Two units of 235 next year to a figure of 1669 million in MWe each are under construction at Kak- 1986, the stage is now set for Washington rapar in Gujarat. Sites at Kaiga in Kar- to fUl'ther clear another package of sophis- nataka and Rawatbhata in Rajasthan have ticated weaponry to that country; and been approved for setting up two units of 235 MWe each a~ each location. Additional (c) if so, the reaction of Government sites for new atomic power projects are in this matter? under consideration of the Government. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) Yes, Sir. MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI K.R. NARA Y ANAN) : (a) Exact Establishment of Integrated Managemeat details are not yet available abollt the Pool military hardware which Pakistan is to re- 1519. SHRI C.P. THAKUR: Will the ceive from USA in 1987. PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (b) and (c) Our concern~ regarding (a) from ~hen the Government is Pakistan's continued acquisition of sophis- going to introduce the change in adminis- tjcated weapons from USA. which results trative set up of lAS officers and establish in the diversion of resources from develop- the integrated management pool ment to defence, we re reiterated by the External Affairs Minister during his recent (b) whether it will apply to promotee visit to USA. Government con(inues to lAS officers and officers of the police maintain constant vigil over all develop- service; and ments having a bearing on the country's security. (c) whether Government propose to introduce specialisation for lAS cadre? Atomic Power Plant in Rajasthan

1517. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER THE MINISTER OF STAEE IN THE JAIN: Will the PRIME f\1INISTER be r-wHNISTR Y OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC pleased to state : GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM) : (a) to (c) As (a) whether any final decision has been part of the ongoing review of the taken with regard to the number of atomic administrative arrangements of the Go- power plants to be set up in the Seventh \> ernment of India, this Ministry has under- Plan, state-wise details ; taken a review of the career management aspects of officers of the Indian Admlnis.. (b) whether any expert team had visit- trative Service (lAS), particularly at the ed certain sites in Rajasthan in this con- end of 11 th and 17th year of service. nection ; and Various proposals are under consideration. Among them are the need for specialisation (c) if so, the finding of the team and and the establishment of an Integrated the final decision taken by the Union Managemen t Pool. This review will apply Government in this regard? to all lAS officers regardless of whether they are directly recruited or promoted THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE from the State CiviJ Service. No final de- MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH· cision has yet been taken. In so far as NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART· the Indian Police Service is concerned, no iss MARtH S" 1986

separate proposal is under consideration under the Hill Area Development· Pro- in tbis Ministry. gramme in operation since the beginnin& of the Fifth Five Year Plan consist of (i) Areas Included in Hill Area Deyelopment those forming part of a biuer State aDd Prol'"ammes (ii) the Western Ghats Relion. Statewise covera&e of Hill Area Development Pro- 1520. SHRI BHATTAM SltIRAMA- aramme is aiven in the Statement below. MURTV : Wi 11 the Minister of PLA NN- The areas covered under the first group ING be pleased to state: were so identified by a sub-committee of the National Development Council in its (a) the hill areas in the country iden- meeting held on 12 March, 1965 with re- tified for inclusion in the Hill Area Deve- ference to tbe considerations of altitude lopment Programme and criteria prescribed and border and stratelic location. for delienation of hill areas ; The criteria adopted for the delineation' (b) whether any areas in the Andhra of hill areas alooe the Western Coast termed Pradesh are included in the same ; as Western Ghats were elevation (i.e. 600 metres and above) and contiauity, a taluka (c) whether any of the areas in beinit the unit of demarcation. Andhra Pradesh become eligible for special assistance as per the criteria ; and (b) No, Sir.

(d)~ the action proposed to be taken in regard to such areas ? (c) and (d) No part of Andhra Pra- desh was included in either of the two THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE groups of identified areas mentioned in MINISTRY OF PLANNINF (SHRI answer to part (a) and, as such, the State A.K. PANJA): (a) The areas covered is not to receIpt of special assistance.

Statement

Coveraee of the Hill Areas Development Proaramme

State District

1 2

I. Hill Are•• Uttar Pradesh Dehradun Paud Garhwal Tehri Garhwal Chamoli Uttar Kashmir Nainital Ahnora Pithoragarh

Assam North Cachar Karbi AUllona

1'a_l Nadu NH,;ris 157 PIIALGUNA 14, 1~7 (SAKA) "'rilttn An&wl'. 151

1 2

West Benaal Sub-Divisions of Sadar, Kurseon, and Kalimpon. of Darjeeling District

II '" e.tero Gbat, Reaien

Maharashtra Dhule (2) Nasik (8) Thana (5) Raigad (7)

Ratnagiri (5) (North) Ranagiri (5) (South) KoIbapur (10) Sangli (1) Satara (8) Pune (9) Ahmednagar (2)

Karnataka Balgaum (6) Chikamaglur (4)

Ooorg (3) Dharwar (1) Rassan (4) Mysore (2) North Kanara (9) Shimoca (5) South Kanara (6)

Kcrala Cannanorc (3) Wybad (3) Kozhiko (3) (Calicut) MaJapuram (I) Palghat (3) Trichur (1) Ernakulam (3) (Cochin) MAR'CH 5" 1986 Writ,." AlmH7s 160

1 2

Idukki (4) Kottayam (2) Quilon (4) Trivandrum (2) Tamil Nacu Nilgiri (4) Coimbatore (5) Periyur (l) Madurai (6) Tirunavel1i (5) Ramanathapuram (3) Kanya Kumari (4) Goa Goa (3)

Note:- In the case of Western Ghats Region Taluka is the unit of demarcation. The figures indicated in brackets denote the number of TaJukas covered in the district nnder the programme. Suply of Antenna by ENCL to NTPC (a) whether the Electronics Corpora- tion of India Ltd. was supplying 4-Chara- 1521. SHRI HAROOBHAI MEHTA: cter Code Systems to the P&T Depart- Wi)] the PRIME MINISTER be pleased ment as per specifications drawn by that to state: Department;

(a) whether the Electronic~ Corpora- (b) whether the system is not now tion of India Limited had received an being accepted by P&T; and order for 4.7 M. Earth Station Antenna from National Thermal Power CorlJoration; (c) if so, reasons for the non-accep- aRd tance, if any, communicated to the Elec- tronics Corporation of India Limited? (b) the present status of the execution of the order ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE TECH- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE AND NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT~ AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONlCS PATIL) : (a) Yes, Sir. AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATIL): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) The Syc;tems have been accepted by Department of TelecommunicatIons (b) Antenna System along with Ieed and are in operation. and subsystems like pedestal assemblies and reflector assemblies are nearly comp- (d) Does not aric;e. lete and erection at site win commence shortly. Inclusion of Synonyms Nayak Communit1 in the List of Scheduled Tribes SupplJ of 4 Character Code System to P&T by E.C.I.L. 1523. SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER : Will the Minister of WELFARE be pleas- 1522. SHRI HAROOBHAI MEHTA: ed to state: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pJeased (a) whether GO\l'ernment Qf Karna- to state : taka have recommended to include- fout 161 Written Answer& PHALGUNA 14, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answer. 162 synonyms of Nayak Community-Nayak, uaI afforestation programme includes bam- Boda, Valmiki and Nayak Talwara Pari- boo also, which will be planted in suitable war-in the list of Scheduled Tribes; and areas.

(b) if so, action taken by Govern- (c) Many other species used in affore- ment in this regard? station programmes are potentially useful as raw material to supplement bamboo. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF WELFARE (SHRI G.IRI- [Translation] DHAR GOMANGO) : (a) The comments Improvements in Pay Scales of Police received from the Government of Karna- taka regarding inclusion of certain commu- 1525. SHRIMATI PATEL RAMA- nities in the list of Scheduled Tribes as synonyms cannot be disclosed in the BEN RAMJIBHAI MA V ANI: public interest. SHRI SOMNATH RATH:

Will the Miflister of HOME AFFAIRS (b) The abo,,'e proposal is being con- be pleased to state: sidered along with similar other proposals in the context of the proposed comprehen- (a) whether Union Government have sive revision of the lists of Scheduled given any advice to the States to bring Castes and Scheduled Tribes. Further, about change and improvement in the pay any amendment in the existing lists of scales and working of police; and Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes can be done only through an Act of Parliament in view of ArtIcles 341 (2) and (b) if so, the details thereof and reac- 342 (2) of the Constitution. tion of each State?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Requirement and Plantation of Bamboo DEPARTMENT OF INTERNAL SECU- RITY(SHRI ARUN NEHRU) : (a) and (b) 1524. SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL: Will While no advice to States has been given the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to to bring about change and improvement state .: in pay scales and working of police, the recommendations of the National Polic~ (a) whether Go\crnment have asses- CommIssion about the change and impro- sed the requirement of bamboo production vement in the pay sOales and working for the Seventh Five Year Plan; conditions of constabulary in States have been remitted to the State Government (b) if so, the requirement of bamboo for examination and necessary action. during the Seventh Five Year Plan and the new areas where bamboo would be culti- Training of Police Personnel vated; and 1526. SHRIMATI PATEL RAMA- (c) in view of the dwindling areas of BEN RAMJIBHAI MA V ANI bamboo plantation what other potential SHRI SOMNATH RATH: raw materials like eucalyptus etc. Govern- ment are exploring ? WiH the Mininster of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND (a) whether it is also a fact that in FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) view of the Prime Minister"s orders with Yes, Sir, reference to the training of police personnel of officer rank, the Ministry has prepared (b) The requirement of bamboo was a comprehensive note; assessed at about 10 minion tonnes for the Seventh Five Year Plan period. The ann- (b) if so, the details thereof; and J(;3' W,.llten Answer" MARCil 5, 1916

(c) the reaction of the States thereto Society sought by a labour cooperative and the steps taken by them in this which was formerly given the contract for regard? 16 years since 1967; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) whether Government will adhere DEPARTMENT OF INTERNAL SECU. to the norms regarding contracts to labour RITY (SHRI ARUN NEHRU): (a) Yes, co-operatives in this case? Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) Three in service training pro- DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE RE- grammes have been introduced for IPS SEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT (SHRI officers; viz. (i) Junior Management ARUN SINGH): (a) Ministry of Finance, Course for officers with 6 to 10 years' Department of Expenditure have issued seniority, (ii) Senior Management Course instructions, endorsed by the Ministry of for officers with 10 to 16 years~ seniority, Defence, wherein it has been decided that (iii) Top Management Course for officers a price preference of upto 10% may be with over 16 years' seniority. given to registered Labour Cooperatives while awarding contracts for parking lots Two administrative courses for the and porterage. police ha ve been evolved, viz. Code of Conduct for the police and Code of Beha- (b) and (c) There is no proposal to viour for police officers and these deviate from these instructions. The case have been sent to the State police autho- under reference is being processed in accor- rities for purpose of training and dissemi-. dance with the latest instructions. nation. B~sic training courses for recruit constables and Sub-Inspectors have also Setting up Spedal Courts to try Commu- been framed and circulated to the State police authorities for their consideration nal Cases and approval. 1528. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA : (c) The State Governments share the SHRI AMARSINGH RATH- concern of the Central Government re- AWA: garding the need for a change and impro- Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS ~ettlent in police attitude and performance. be pleased to state : The State Governments are examinIng ways and means of bringing about this change. (a) whether Union Government suggested to State Governments to establish [English] special courts in their respective States to try communal cases; Labour Contracts in Defence (b) jf so, the names of ,-uch States 1527. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: which h: \ e estabJi~hcd speciaJ courts and Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased the number of cases tried during the year to state : 1985; and

(a) whether his Ministry had taken (c) whether some State Governments the decision on the basis of recommendati- have rejected the suggestion; if so, the ons of the Advisory Board that in awarding names of such States and the reasons labour contrads, the labour cooperatives given by them ? should be given 10 percent weightage over the lowest tender from a private contrac- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tor; DEPARTMENT OF INTERNAL SECU- RITY (SHRI ARUN NEHRU) : (a) Yes, (b) if so, whether this decision has Sir. been violated in the case of labour cont- (b) and (c) On ihe basis of the avail- rat.:t for Murobai Kol~a Kamgar S~h\\kl\ri able illfonnatioll" tb~ Sttlt. Oovwnm.ll\! 1 , t6S PHAtOUNA 14. t907(SAKA) Written Answen J66

of Andhra Pradesh, Bihar, Gujarat, Maha- Pa~iltan Migrants in Delhi rashtra, Madhya Pradesh, Manipur, Naga- land, Rajasthan, Tamil Nadu and Uttar ]530. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAM- Pradesh have taken action in this regard. ACHANDRAN: Will the Minister of The Delhi Admn. has also earmarked one HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: court each of Additional Sessions Judge and that of a Metropolitan Magistrate for (a) the estimated number of Pakistani trial and disposal of such cases. The state migrants in New Delhi; Governments of Haryana, Jammu & Kash. mir, Karnataka, Punjab, Mizoram, Aruna- (b) how long does the Government of chal Pradesh, Goa, Daman Diu have & India intend to allow them to stay; and stated that they do not consider it necessary to set up Special Courts. However, (c) the steps taken to ensure that they the State Governments of Madhya Pradesh, return to Pakistan? Himachal Pradesh, Kerala, Sikkim and Tripura are actively considering the suggestion to set up Special Courts. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERNAL SECU- 2. As regards the question oi the RITY) : (SHRI ARUN NEHRU) : (a) to number of cases being tried in these (c) As on 31.1.86, 8403 Pak nationals were Courts in the various States, this matter staying in Delhi. The are to leave IndIa relates to day to day law and order admi- after the expiry of their visa. The Delhi nistration and falls within the puniew of Administration has powers under the the State Governments. Foreigners Act, 1946 to take Jegal action against those who do not leave the country after the expiry of their visa and also those Recruitment of More Numher of 'Yomen IPS Officers who are detected staying without valid documents. 1529. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will the Mini"ter of HOME AFFAIRS Stand of Pak Muslim League on Indo-PaK be pleased to state: 1531. SHRI BHATT AM SRIRAMA- . (a) how many women I PS Officers are MURTY: there in the country and particularly SHRI SHARAD DIGHE : in Karnataka; and SHRI ANAND SINGH: PROF. P.J. KURIEN : (b) since women constitute a major portion of our population and to protect SHRI BANWARI LAL there interests whether the Government will PUROHIT: take steps to recruit more number of women SHRI K. PRADHANI : IPS officers and post them to different States ? Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERNAL SECU- (a) w;ether the reported stand of the RITY (SHRI ARUN NEHRU) : (a) There Pakistan Muslim League that relations bet~ are 25 women IPS officers in the country ween India and Pakistan could be norn"1ali .. of whom 3 are in Karnataka. sed only after the settlement of the Kash· (b) Recruitment to IPS is done through mir issue . on the basis of the United the Civil Services Examinations conducted Nations resolutions represents the views of by the U.P S.C. and the number of women the Pakistan Government; to be recruited to IPS depends upon the number of eligible qualified women candi- (b) if not, what are t he views of the dates in the Civil Services Examinations Government of Pakistan on this issue and and the number who have opted for joining whether they have conveyed their views to IPS. the Government of India; an4 167 168

(c) whether this stand of the Pakistan News Item Captioned" Alleged Export of Muslim League would retard the process Kids al Slaves" of normalisation of Indo-Pak. relations undertaken recently ? 1533. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOW- MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS DHARY: (SHRI K R. NARAYANAN) : (a) and (b) Will the Minister of WELFARE be When India's concern at the resolution was pJeased to state : conveyed during the visit of the Foreign Secretary to Pakistan, Pakistan leaders (a) whether the attention of Govern- reiterated their adherence to the Simla ment has been drawn to the news item Agreement. However, the fact cannot be captioned 'Alleged export of kids as slaves' ignored that .the resolution was passed . by appared in the

Forest (Conservation) Act, 1980 (c) the outcome thereof; and

1532. SHRI PRATAP BHANU (d) the steps taken or being taken to SHARMA: Will the PRIME MINISTER stop this racket ? be pleased to state : THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF WELFARE (SHRI (a) whether Union Government have GIRIDHAR GOMANGO) : (a) Yes, Sir. issued any circular on 26 March, 1982 regarding Ex-post facto application of (b) to (d) According to the information forest (Conservation) Act. 1980 to received from the State Government of such development projects whJch Orissa, which had inquired into the matter, were administratively sanctioned and some children, whose mothers had died started by the State Government prior to after delivery or who were abandoned by its enforcement i.e. 25 October, 1986; their unmarried mothers at the Christian Mission Hospital at Khariar, came under (b) jf so, whether the Forest (Conserva- care of the mission Hospital. The District tion) Act empowers the Union Government Court, under the pro\isions of Guardians to issue such circular; and and Wards Act, 1890 granted necessary ciearances, and thereafter these children (c) if not, the reasons for contravening were sent to West Germany for adoption the provisions of the Act ? by issueless German families. According to the information furnished by mission hospital to the State Govt. the Indian THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE embassy is keeping in touch with the cbild- MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND ern who are reported to be happy and well FORESTS (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI) : looked after. The State Government of (a) The circular issued by Government Orissa has also again asked our embassy of I ndia on 26th March, 1982 was not in to verify the condition of the cbiJdern. regard to ex-post facto application of the Forest (Conservation) Act, 1980. Proposal to Review CantODtlletit Act. 1534. SHRI C.K. KUPPUSWAMY: Win the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased (b) and (c) Do not arise. to state; : 169 PRALGUNA 14. 1907 rSIfKA) 17(}

(a) whether Government had amended consideration of Government to keep pove- Section 21 (3) of Defence Cantonment in rty line families protected from the steep Cantonment Act 1924 regarding the term of hike of prices of essential commodities ? Vice Presidents of Cantonment; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) whether it is a fact that as per the MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI A.K. latest amendment the term of Vice-Presi- PANJA) : The Public Distribution System dent of Cantonme~t is unstable; is recognised as a permanent feature of the strategy to protect an consumers in- (c) if so, the details thereof and whe- cluding poor families from hike in prices ther Government have any proposal to of essential commodities. Apart from this, roview the act with suitable amendments the Government have proposed various since a stable Board is necessary to have a measures for the improvement of level of clean administration; and Jiving of those below the poverty line through distribution of foodgrains at con- (d) if so, the detaiJs thereof? cessional prices. These include programmes 'for distribution of foodgrains, particularly, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE rice and wheat to the people in the Integra- DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE RESEA- ted Tribal Development Projects, for young RCH AND DEVELOPMENT (SHRI children, pregnant women and nursing SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. mothers and expansion of the coverage of Rural Landless Employment Guarantee (b) No, Sir. Programme and National Rural Employ- ment Programme. (c) and (d) Do not arise. AU these. steps will keep protected the. poor families from rise in prices of essen- 'Supply of Cyber 205 Super Computers tial commodities to a considerable extent.

1535. SHRI Y ASHWANTRAO Plan for Social Insurance Scheme for Poor GADAKH PATIL: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to ]537. SHRI RAMSWAROOP RAM: state : Will the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state :

(a) whether the question of supply of (a) whetl'er Government have made Cyber 205 Super computers was discussed any plan for Social Insurance Scheme for by Government at the nleeting of the I ndo- the development of the poorest of the poor US joint Commission held recently in community in Tndia; and Washington; and (b) if so, details thereof and the am- (b) if so, the reaction of the US autho- ount allocated there ? rities thereto? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI A.K. MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS PANJA) : (a) No~ Sir, However, there (SHRI K.R. NARA Y ANAN) : (a) No. are Sir. This question was not discussed at the Indo-US Joint Commission meeting (i) Personal Accident Insurance held recently in Washington. Social Security Scheme for Poor Families, (b) Does not arise. (ii) Scheme of Comprehensive Poli~y Poverty Line in 1984 for Fire and Allied Perils, (iii) Hut Insurance Scheme, 1536. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI Will the Minister of PLANNING be plea. (iv) Composite Package Insurance sed to state what is tbe proposal under Scheme, and J12

(\') Janta Personal Accident Insurance (h) Composite Package Insurance PolicY'. All these schemes are for Scheme: the poor and/or for· catering to The scheme has been introduced to the needs of weaker sections of offer complete all round protection to the community. beneficiaries of the Integrated Rural De- velopment Programme, National Rural (b) The details of above are given Employment Programme etc. in respect of below as a Statement. the dwelJjng houses and other belongings from various hazards, including personal Statement accident to them and their families. (v' Janta Personal AccideDt Insurance (i) Personal Accident Iosursace So- cial Security Scheme for Poor Policy Families: This has been in-existence - 'for" many years providing personal accide'nt in~urance This Scheme is meant for providing reat a very low premium i.e. Rs. 12/~for lief to the extent of Rs. 3,000/-to poor sum assured of Rs. 15,000/-. This has families haying an annual income of less been recently extended to fishermen in the than Rs. 5.000/-in the event of accidental States of Kerala, Maharashtra, Andhra death or permanent total or partial disable- Pradesh etc. who have formed themselve~ ment leading to his total loss of income. into co-operati\ e societies. The Scheme is applicable to the bread earner of the family in the age group of - This is a programme in which the 18-55 years and is now operative In 100 Ministry of Agriculture is funding the pre- selected districts of the country. mium through the National Federation of Fishermen's Co-operatives. (ii) Scbeme of Comprehensive Policy for Fire and Allied Peri Is : Acquisition of Sophisticated Computers From USA: This scheme is meant for economically weaker sections. This policy cover inclu- 1538. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT- sive of the risk of fire, strike, riot. mali- NAIK: cious damage, flood, earthquake, etc. at SHRI SATYENDRA NARA- a special rate of rupee one per thousand YAN SINHA: sum assured for the benefit or economi- SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: calJy weaker sections, the artisans, village and cottage industries, including bio-gas Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleas- plants, small-scale industries and tiny sec- ed to state: tors where sum insured does not exceed Rs. 10 lacs. (a) whether Government have a proposal to acquire some sophisticated com- (iii) Hut Insurance Scheme: puters from United States;

(b) if so, the number of sophisticated A Hut Insurance Policy covering fire computers proposed to be purchased from and other additiona1 perils like riot, strike, US at what cost; and malicious damage, flood, cyclone, .rth- quake, etc. for the hut as well as its con- (c) the steps taken in this regard? tents has been devised at a concessional premium of Rs. 3j-per thousand (Rs. 5.50 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE per thou~and sum assured is the normal MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH. rate) to provide maximum protection to NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART. small and marginal farmers and other eco- MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, nomically weaker sections, and the sum ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS assured is subject to a maximum or Rs. AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. 6,000/-. PATIL) : (a) Two United States firms art 173 PHALGUNA 14, 1907 (SAKA) among the three who have submitted pro- Shortage of MaDpower posals for the sale of sophisticated computers. 1540. SHRI MANIK REDDY Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to (b) Proposals for purcha~e of two state : sophisticated computers are under technical evalution and price negotiation. Total (a) whether there has been acute estimated cost of these two computers is shortage of properly trained manpower in about Rs. 40 crores. various fields of Environmental control;

(c) Discussions are being held with the (b) if so, remedial steps taken in this firms for arriving at suitable configurations regard; and and price. (c) whether overseas training in advan- Sanskrit as the Computer Language ced countries like Sweden is part of this programme? 1539. DR. A.K. PATEL: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : THE M1NISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND (a) whether it has been found that FORESTS (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI) : (a) Sanskrit-a natural language can serve as and (b) No, Sir. Various universities/and the best computer language in the world scientific technical institutions in the country for artificial inteIJigence etc. ; offer formal courses on environment studies. This largely meets the manpower re- (b) is the Department of Ele~tronics quirements. However, training needs to be researching further on this subject, if so, imparted in specific areas requiring tech- the progress made so far and future plans nical and managerial skiHs. To this end. in this regard : the Department supports regular short- term trainIng programmes for scientists, administrators. legislators and other target (c) whether public cooperation e.g. groups. These are held in various univer- from Sanskrit scholars and Institutions sities and leading in~titutions. being sought in this regard; and

(c) The Department sponsors serving (d) jf so, how. if not, the reasons scientists for training in Environmental therefor? Sciences in other countries wherever appropriate opportunities are available. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- R.emoval of poverty NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT. 1541. SHRI B. V. DESAI Will the ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS Minister of PLANNING be pleased to AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. state : PA TIL) : (a) In-depth research studies are being conducted to study the usage of (a) whether Government are consi- natural languages like Sa nskrit for artifi- dering to draw up a time bound pro- cial intelJigence. gramme to remove poverty in the country; and (b) The research efforts in this direction are being co-ordinated under the (b) if so. the detai Is thereof '? Fifth Generation Computer System project as a part of development of a knowledge THE MINISTER OF STATE IN based computer system. This project has THE MINISTRY OF PLANNING been approved by Planning Commission. (SHRI A. K. PANJA): (a) and (b) (c) and (d) Various institutions are Removal of poverty remains a central co.,cern P Janning in India. As a· result b~in& ~ppro~c:h~d to a.dvice iI, this matter. or 175 MARCH " 1986 Written A".wers of the overall strategy of Development ronics technicians training programmes and pattern of growth and a number of beginning June 1985, in two places·ITrs poverty alleviation programmes such as Patna and Ranchi. As per information the Integrated Rural Development Pro- available regular training courses under the gramme (IRDP), National Rural Employ- Craftsmen Training Scheme in the designat- ment Programme (NREP) and Rural ed trades of Machanics (Radio & TV) and Landless Employment Guarantee Pro- 'Electronics Mechanic' are in the operation gramme (RLEG P). the poverty ratio dec- in the following ITIs in Bihar: Hned from 52.4 percent in 1979-80 to 36.9 percent in 1984-85. The Seventh Five 1. ITl Dighaghat, Patna. Year Plan aims at rf'ducing the poverty 2. IT[ Muzaff"arpur ratio to 25.8 percent in' 1989-90 and to less than 5 percent by 2000 A.D. 3. ITI Ranchi.

4. ITl Chajbasa. lProduction of Electronic Good'S (c) No such scheme is under consi- 1542. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: deration at present. Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (d) Does not arise.

(a) whether it a fact that Government [Trails/at ion} are paying special attention to production of electronic goods; Raids cn Houses of Government Officials

(b) if so. the name of the I ndustdal 1543. SHRI VILAS MUTTEMWAR : Training Institutes in Bihar where special SHRI SARFARAZ AHMED: training courses have been started and the SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD: number of such institutes where Go\-ernment propose to start these courses in the PROF. K.V. THOMAS: ensuing session ; Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (c) whether Government propose to introduce any comprehensive scheme f'lr (a) the number of Union Government extension of electronic for industries in employees, officers and ex-officers whose rural areas of Bihar; keeping in view the houses have been raided during the last abundance of man power there; and three years for alleged corruption ;

(d) if so, the amount proposed to be (b) the details of assets recovered fronl spent by the Centre and State Govern- them ~ ment separately in the next financial year under this scheme? (c) the action taken so far against them; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- (d) whether Government propose to NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- raid the houses of some other senior offi- MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, cers to check corruption? ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS AND SPACE (SHRI .SHIVRAJ V. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE PATIL) : (a) Yes, Sir. For the growth of MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC electronics Industry Government ha~ taken GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS (SHRI several steps. P. CHIDAMBARAM) : (a) During the years 1983, 1984 and 1985 searches were (b) There are no Industrial Training conducted by CBI in the residential/office Institutes in Bihar where special training premises of 253 Union Government emp- courses have been started. The Central loyees/ex-officers in connection with the Oovemment is supportinB 6 month's elect- investisation of 217 cases resistered by 177 PHALGUNA 14.1907 (SAKA) Written Answerl 17.

CBI on the allegation of possession of break up of the cases so registered and the assets disproportionate to their known number of employees/ex.omcers involved sources of income, cheating, forgery, cri- is given below :- minal misconduct etc. The year-wise

Year No. of cases registered No. of employees/ex-officers involved

1983 74 92 1984 65 78 1985 78 83

(b) The year-wise details of items, both movable/immovable, recovered during the searches are as under :-

Year Cash Bank Balance, Foreign Movable Assests Immovable Share certificates, Fixed Exchange like Jewellery, A~~ets Deposit Receipts, Imported VCRs, like National Savings TV~, Cars, costly House, Certificates Electrical Gadgets Flat, in (Rs.) etc. posh Jocali .. (i) (ii) ties land etc.

1 2 3

1983 38,34,554.73 320 US Dollars 20,16,280.60 84,07,456.39 700 D.M.

1984 36,10,392.86 Rs. 49, 450/- 12,52,095.56 22,93,838.34

1985 J6,40~514.04 47,97,397,61 57,57,275.18

(c) 73 case~ have been sent up for Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be trial: in 69 cases CBI has recommended pleased to state : Regular Departmental Action; in 8 ca5es CBI has recommended such action (a) whether India has offered to ~bare as fllay be considered appropriate; 8 with the member countries of the South cases have been closed; investigation in 95 Asian AssociatJon of Regional Co-opera- cases has not yet been completed. tion (SAARC) the experience and benefits of its ambitious Satellite Communication (d) Fighting corruption is a continuing programmes; and process. Searches will be conducted or and when considered necessary in the circums- (b) if so, the names of these member countries alongwith their response in this tances of the case. regard ? (English) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Sharing of Experience and Benefits of MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS Satellite Communication Programme SHRI K.R. NARAYANAN) : (a) and (b) with Member Countries of South Discussions with some of member countries Asian AssociatioD of Regional of the South Asian Association of Regio- Co-operatioD nal Cooperation have taken place, but 1544. SHRI R.M. BHOYE : Will the these are still at a preliminary stase. In 179 Written Answers MARCH S. J986 "',i1ten Answer3 180

the case of Maldives, the details of co- THE MINISTER OF HOME AFF- operation in this area are going to be ex- AIRS (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN) : (a) and amined jointly by the experts of the two (b) Vanous State Governments/Union countries, Territory Administrations provide free medical facilities to freedom fighters and Financial Assistance to Freedom Fiab- their families. Ministry of Home Affair~ have no scheme as such for providing ters for Treatinpnt financial assistance to ailing freedom fighters or their widows to enable them to 1545. PROF. NARAIN CHAND undergo treatment in India or abroad. PARASHAR : Wil1 the Minister of HOME However, financial assistance is extended AFFAIRS be pleased to state : in deserving cases to various categories of persons inel uding freedom fighters and (a) whether there is any schenle for their families who are in indigent circum- providing financial assistance to an ailing stances from Home Minister's Discretion- freedom fighter or his widow so as to en- ary Grant. able him/her to undergo treatment in India or abroad; (c) A statement showing number of freedom fighters/ widows, who have been (b) if so. the details of the scheme; given financial assistance during the last 3 and years is given below. As regards the total number of requests received, a record of (c) the number of freedom fighters/ only those cases where financial assistance widows Vvho have been given this assistance has been approved by the Home Minister durtng the past three years aIongwith the is maintained. The record of rejected cases number of applications received for this is kept for only one year and weeded out purpose, separately for each year from thereatter. However during the year 1985· each of the States/TJ. Ts, ? 86,67 applications have been received.

Statement

The financial asshtance aiveo out of HM's disc. grant during the past three years

Name of State/· N0, of freedom fighters/ Total U.T. Administration widows who have been gn1en financial assistance on medical grounds, YEARS 1983-84 1984-85 1985 ... 86 (Upto Jan. 86)

1 2 3 4 5 Andhra Pradesh 2 4 1 7

Assam 2 3 1 6

Bihar 5 14 19

Gujarat 1 1

Haryana 1 1

Jammu & Kashmir 1 2 Karnataka. 3 3 6 18J ~rlt1en P~LOUNA 14~ 1907 ($.4KA) W,itten, ' Answer" A/flw"-,, , ~ lai

1 2 3 4 5

Madhya Pradesh 3 3

l\(aharashtra I 2 3 Orissa 1 1

Rajasthan 2 2

Tamil Nadu 9 9

TriPfJra 1 1 Uttar Pradesh 15 18 33 West Bengal 6 2 8

Delhi (UT Admn.) 9 8 1 18 ------36 74 10 120 ------

Seizure of Cbaras in New Delbi Engine Mounting were recovered, Th~ presence of charas could be detected after 1546. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH each unit was cut with a hack-saw. Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state : . (c) The police are on the look out for both Raghubir Singh Uppal and A.K. (a) whether a big haul of about two Nayyar so as to investigate their links with hundred kilograms of charas worth about international smuggling racket. Rs. 12 lakhs was made in a Kirti Nagar (New Delhi) shop on 13 January, 1986; Seizure of Hero;n on Indo-Pak Border

(b) if so, the details of the haul and 1547. SHRIMATI PATEL RAMA- how it was unearthed; and BEN RAMJI BHAI MA V ANI: WiIl the Mjnister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased (c) the outcome of the investigation to state: made? (a) whether it is a fact that 280 kg. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE fine quality Heroin worth Rs. 30 crores has DEPARTMENT OF INTERNAL SECU- been seized in an encounter with Pakistani RITY (SHRI ARUN NEHRU) : (a) Yes. smugglers on the Indo-Pak border near Kheruwala Border Check Post in Anup- (b) On receipt of iHformation that garh TehsiI of Ganganagar District of one Raghubir Singh Uppal, the owner of Rajasthan by B.S.F. on 6 February, the Mis Uppal Wood Craft and his sales- 1986; man A.K. Nayyar are employed in the smuggling of charas which is concealed in (b) if so, the details thereof; and motor parts, the Delhi PoJice organised a raid and recovered 208 Kg. of charas from (c) the action taken against 'the per.. the premises at 1/127, \<.irtj Nagar, Delhi. sons involved therein ? The charas was found sealed in iron ·con- tainers designed as motor parts. Each unit THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 'IHE was stamped as "ENGINE MOUNilNG, DEPAR"IMENi OF INTERNAL SECU- MERCEDES BENZ, PART NO. 312, RITY (S~RI ARUN N~HRU): (a) No H 2201S17 • 14 wooden crates containing Sir. However9 the B.S.F. recovered 40 cartons each with one unit of the 309.450 Kas. of heroin valued at Rs. 18.24 183 Written AMWf!,j 184 crores in area Anupgarh, District Srigan- MR. SPEAKER There is no point ganagar, Rajasthan, in an armed encounter of order. with smugglers on 2.2.1986. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE (b) When the BSF ambush party ob- (Rajapur): I want to point out that served smugglers with camels crossing into the leaders of parties in Parhament were India from Pakistan, the smugglers were assured by the Prin1e Minister .... challenged to surrender. The smugglers who were following the camels opened fire {Translation] on the BSF party. Fire was returned resulting in the killing of two camels. MR. SPEAKER Professor Saheb, Smugglers however managed to escape you also take recourse to adjournment under cover of darknses. On search of the Inotion for this purpose. area, 14 bags of heroin were found and the same were seized. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: (c) The smugglers managed to escape That is what I am pointing out to you that under cover of darkness. The 14 bags of this material has not been supplied. We heroin were handed over to the Customs would like to know whether the Law authorities and a case was got registered Ministry's and Home Ministry's informa- at Police station Gbarsana. tIon and opinion on the Muslim Law is correct or what the Government has said is correct... In the Times 0/ India 12.00 brl. MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed. What has come on the floor of the House I am responsible for that. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (Ban- kura): Thousands of kisans from West PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I have raised the question. Bengal have come to Delhi. They are demanding the minimum price for the jute ... MR. SPEAKER: You can raIse It otherwise. Not allowed. Irrelevant. MR. SPEAKER You can raise this (Inter, uption s)·· question otherwise, but this is not the way. Not allowed. MR. SPEAKER: This does not con- [Translation] cern me or the House'

Achariaji, you may bring it ;n any PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: form. You give it in writing. HeJp us. I have also put a notice under rule 377. [EnllishJ MR. SPEAKER You can do that. I will allow that; no problem. I will allow that. You are free to do that, but not this way. (Translation]

SHRI BASUDEB ACHARJA J shan PROF. MADHU DANDA VA TE : give it in writing. Will you al10w it under rule 377.

MR. SPEAKER: You may give it. MR. SPEAKER: Yes, no problem. (Interruption.) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I have &iven the notice.

SHRI H.A. DORA (SR.IKAKULAM): MR. SPEAKER No problem I am on a point of order. I have ghen notice for a substantive motion .... , ·Not recorded. tis PHALOUNA 14. 1907 (SAKAJ

[Translation] MR. SPEAKER: I ba\c told you yesterday and I am teJIing you today- It is not proper when you do such the same point of order and the same rul- things and you know it. ing. Now allowed.

[En#lishJ SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Yester- day, I have referred to something else. PROF.MADHU DANDAVATE: I can raise it under the rules and you can PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: rule it out under the rules. You have misunderstood him. He is referring to something else.

MR. SPEAKER: It is the same MR. SPEAKER It reminds me of question and same answer. the Julius Caesar ... [TrQIl~Jat ion]

You do not worry. Why do you He is too Brutus to let Caesar taB do like this? You are aware of the rules. It can be raised in some other form. Why SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirhat) : d6n't you raise it like that? Since Sardar Buta Singh is here, I am dra- [English] wing your attention. You are a champion of farmers. He has made a statement here PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: about the jute price which has brought Yesterday he has raised something else. thousands of iute farmers here to make {Trails/at ion} their representations. MR. SPEAKER I know. [TranslCltionJ [English] MR. SPEAKER: You gi\e notice SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: I am re- under rule 377 or under some other rule. ferring to Nev. Delhi Times.

[Trans/at ;011]

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: They MR. SPEAKER : Kurup ji, why are would like to meet you also. you interrupting? I am talking to you Mr. Reddy. What you told yesterday about MR. SPEAKER Any time you are New Delhi Times ..•• welcome. [ English] SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: The Jute Corporation has stopped buying any jute The same thing applies. You have got at al1. All the jute is lying there. other means and you can use them. You are welcome to do so; no problem. But I MR. SPEAKER: Any time you are am not going to allow this way. welcome. [Translation] SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (Mehboob- nagar): One film by the name New Delhi Why do you waste time, yours~ mine a~ Times .... well as of the House, when you know you can raise it "/ MR. SPEAKER: You can raise it otherwise. There are means available to [English) you, there are rules availabJe to you; not this way_ Not allowed. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: I havd ( lnterru,tiolrs) tabled a calling atten.tlon motion. MARCH 5, 1986 MR. SPEAKER: Does not matter. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Are we This is out of order. I have not al10wed to go and make a statement outside ... it. rInterruptions)

SHRI SURESH KURUP (Kottayam) : MR. SPEAKER: Reddy Ji, you should Doordarshan announced that the film know that without my pernlisslon you would be shown ... cannot speak and I did not give permission. MR. SPEAKER: Does not matter. ( Interruptions) Again, it is the S'lme ruling. It is irrelevant. Overruled. You can come under MR. SPEAKER: Well~ I must ex- some other rule. plain certain things to you. It has to be unambiguous, it must be clear ... SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: You ar~ ( Interruptions_! expunging everything. MR. SPEAKER: Please order. What MR. SPEAKER ~ecause it is over- is it ? I would like to nlake you under- ruled. stand that you have to seek the permission of the Ch air to say and if I overrule cer- SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY I am on tain things and do not allow you, that a point of order. does not form part of the record. So simple it is ... MR. SPEAKER : Not allowed. ( Int~'rruption~.. )

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: You are MR. SPEAKER: No. Not ;:tHawed. expunging everything from the records ... Absolutely not. If you can convince me on that~ I will apologise __ MR. SPEAKER : I am not allowing a ltllerruptions) discussion on this. r PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : We SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY I anl must know on what subject the permission sorry to say this ... is l.efused.

MR. SPEAKER: You should not be MR. SPEAKER: 1 give, Sir. sorry; you should be happy that I anl keeping up according to your wishes. 1 PROF MADHU DANDAVATE am kcepina up what you have entrusted to Unless we know what he has raised, how me. I am keepin& the rules intact. will we understand your ruling 1 So. in order to understand your ruJi ng, we want him to raise "he issue. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Has he said something unparliamentary MR. S.PEAKER: He has given a and defamatory? Who do you ... ( interruptions) notice. He wants to speak on that and I did not allow him because it is out of MR. SPEAKER: No, Sir. 1 dId not order ... allow bim, that is aiL (Interrup: ions)

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: PROF. MADHU D,ANDAVATE: Why do you unnecessarily· expunge it ? What is out of order, we must know. ( interruplions) MR. SPEAKER: 1 know my rules, Sir, and if I am made to realise my mis- MR. SPEAKER: I am not expunging, take, I will apoJQgise to you. I am not allowing him. He has not my permission. I did not give my permisstotl. PROF. MA:PHU DANDAVATE: That is a1l. Without listening to th,e Point of O.rd",r, can you say it is out of order ? .• ( Inler'"ptlonI) Wrltlvn Answers PHALGUNA 14, 1M (SAKA) Written A,"wer, 190

[TtIJnI/atlon] SHRI SURESH KURUP : This film .•• (Interruption.) MR. SPEAKER : Professor Saheb, why do you insist? You know, I give you MR. SPEAKER: It is not this film or · ? a proper hearing. Is there any use o.f It . that film ... What is the use of it ? You know, I lIsten ( Interruption3) to what I should listen to and I do not listen to what I should not. MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed ... ( [nterruptiQn,) (Interruptions)·· [English} MR. SPEAKER : Not on this subject. ... (lnterruprions) •• PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Everyday he is getting the same treatment. ( Interruption 'I) MR. SPEAKER': You are welcome. There are certain other rules under which [Trans/ation] you can give notice and get this information, but not this way. This is overruled ... MR. SPEAKER : I do not understand (Intertuptionl) why do you waste time unnecessarily. Is there any subject which I have disaJIowed MR. SPEAKER : There is no expunc- for discussiC'n ? Whatever is permitted by tion. I do not expunge anything. What time and is in accordance with the rules 1 allow, that goes on record. Only is done. unparliamentary things are expunged ..• [English] ( Interruptions)

According to the book if it is a])ow- SHRI H.A. DORA: Sir, it IS reported able, I will allow it. It is only a question in the Indian Express ... of time, But jf you do like this, it wi] l ( Interruptions) not help ... ( Interruptions) L Tran!'lut iQIl)

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: We arc SHRI RAM NAGINA MISHRA only referring to the dangerous practice of Please listen to us also. expunging everything from the record . (InterrupJ ions) MR. SPEAKER: I shaH Jisten to you also. You arc on your legs, I shall MR. SPEAKER: No que~tioD of lIsten to you. practice. Sir. It is being followed continuo- ( Inlerrupllolls) usly, it is being followed the same way, it will be followed the same way again. I SHRI RAf\,l NAGINA MISHRA : Mr. have not deviated one inch from the rule . Speaker, Sir, they arC! wasting trme. (Interrupt ions) MR. SPEAKER: What can 1 do, I MR. SPEAKER: AlI right. You don't also feel like that. I am also saying what understand. ([nterrupr ions) you are saying. Both you and J hold the same views.

SHRI SURESH KURUP : I have given [EngJi.hj a proper notice, Sir, and only then I have raisee it ... SHRI H.A. DORA: Sir, I would jike ( [nterruJllions) to make a submission that it is reported ill the papers that there is ... MR. SPEAKER: You do not get the permission just because you have given a (Inlerl UPIIOIls) noH~e. That does not entitle you •• ~ ( (nl~rrul'tlrms) ··Not rccorded. 191 Written An&wer, MARCH S" 1986 Writ/." An.wer.r t92

Mr. SPEAKER: You give me some- the Business Advisory Committee; rest thing: in writing not like this. Give me assured. something. I will look into it ..• (Interruprion, Jill. SHRI C.P. THAKUR (Patna): The situation in Kashmir is explosvie. MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed ••• (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: We are discussing that. MR. SPEAKER: If you don't listen ... (Interruptions) PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Bara .. mutla): Please listen to me for a MR. SPEAKER: Not alJowed. I have minute. not liven my permission •.• ( Interruptiolls) MR. SPEAKER: What is the point of order? SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHAR Y (Katwa) :' Sir, I have given a notice deman- PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : No point ding a discussion on the purchase of air- of order. I want to express my feelings. craft carrier 'Hermes' ••• (Illferruptio ns) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: You are welcome. MR. SPEAKER: I will look into it. We are discussing it. It is not proper to raise a Calling Attention Motion on the floor of the House. This PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: SIr, i don't want to raise any controversy. is improper ... (lilt ('rrupl iOlls) MR. SPEAKER: You please come to n1C. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS (MaveJi- (Inl crrupt ion!i)·· kara) : Sir, there is a ruling of the Supreme Court on the Christian women marriage MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed. Don't and because of that. .. record. Now. papers to be laid. (lnf~rrupt iOlls)

MR. SPEAKER: You give me ~omc thing in writing and come to me, but not like this ... (Interrupt ions) 12.12 brl.

MR. SPEAKER: I cannot dj!)cu~s it PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE here . (Interrupt,ofB) ** [Ellglish]

MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed. Irrele\ - NotificatioD under Delhi Police Act ant. Overuled. THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS [Tran81tftion] (~HRI S.S. CHAVAN) : I beg to lay on the Table a copy of the Delhi Police SHRI RAM NAGINA MISHRA : (Promotion and Confirmation) (Amendment) ... (Interruptions) Mr. Speaker. Sir, com- Rules, 1985 (Hindi and English versions) munal riots are increasing in the country ••• published in Notification No. E. 10/10/84- ( Interruptiol1s) Home (P)/Estt. in Delhi Gazette dated the 6th November, 1985, under sub-section (2) [English] of section 148 of the Delhi Police Act. 1978. MR. SPEAKER: We are discus~i()g [Placed in Library See No. LT.2J31/861. that subject. We have already decided in

··Not recordCfd. .·Not reeorded. J93 l'apllrs Laid PKALGUNA 14. 1907 (SAKA) Paperl Lllid

AUD ••I Report of the Commil.lou for Aaoua} Plans 1985-86 Scbeduled Caltel and Scheduled Tribes for THE MINISTER OF STATE lbi THE the ,ear 1981-83, Memorandum of the Action MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI Taken 00 the recommendations cootained A.K. PANJA) : I beg to lay on the Table ia tbe Report, etc.' a copy of "the 'Annual Plan, 1985-86' (Hindi and English versions). [Pla~ed THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE in Library. see No. LT-2133/86.] MINISTRY OF WELFARE (DR. RAJEN- DRA KUMARI HAJ PAl): I beg to lay Notification under Army Act and CantoR- on the Table- meat Act THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (l) (i) A copy of the Annual DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE R.E- Report (Hindi and (English) SEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT (SHRI versions) of the Commission ARUN SINGH) : I beg to lay on the for Scheduled Castes and Table- Scheduled Tribes for the year 1982.83, (1) A copy of the Territorial Army (Amendment) Rules, 1986 (Hindi (ii) A copy of the MemorandUln and English versions) published (Hindi and English versions) in Notification No. S.R.. O. 65 in of rhe action taken ~on the Gazette of India dated the 15th recommendations contamed February, 1986~ under sub-sectioft in the Report. (3) of section 14 of the Territorial Army Act, 1948. (2) A copy of the Menloranduln (Hindi [Placed in Library. see No. LT- and English versions) outlining 2134/86.] the Detailed Action taken on the recommendations contained in the (2) A copy of the Grant of Leave to First Annual Report of the Com- Members of Cantonment Board mission for Scheduled Castes and Rules. 1985 (Hindi and English Scheduled Tribes for the year versions) published in Noti1icatioll 1978-79. No. S. R. o. 286 in Gazette of India dated the 4th January. [Placed in Li.brary. See No. L T -2132/86. 1986, under sub-section (3) of (Int~rrupt ion3) section 281 of the Cantonments Act, 1924. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ(Baramulla) : [Placed in Library. s •• No. LT- He has been a party to communalism .•• 2135/86.] ( Interruptions) (Interru]Jt ;0113) * *

MR. SPEAKER: You can come to MR. SPEAKER: I am not aJJo'N- me. I will listen to you. iny the hon. gentleman. Mr. Soz, you rInterruptions) ** can come and put the question. I have not allowed you. MR. SPEAKER: No, not allowed. You can come and just let me know. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE ( Interruptions)· * (Rajapur) : If it is unparliamentary it should be expunged. MR. SPEAKER : Not allowed. It will PROF. SAlf'UDDIN SOZ: What not go O.Q. record. Not allowed. I have not remark is expunged, I£would like to know. aiven you my permission. Shri Panja. MR. SPEAKER: I did not allow it. It did not go on record. ---- '195

Now, Mr. Arunachalam. (2) A copy of the Un Ibn Jtai-SlicfSer- vice CommiSsion · (Exemtrtibn Report. of the Comptroller aDd Audit... frOtn Consultation) )\n)endt1Jrit General of India-Part I ami II Regulations, 1985 (Hindi and English versions) published in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Notification No. G. S. R. 59 in DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY Gazette of India dated the 25th AFFAIRS (StiRI GIlULAM NABI January, 1986, under article 320 AZAD): On behalf of Shri M. Aruna- (5) of the Constitution. cha]am. I beg to to lay on the Table a copy each of the following Reports (Hmdi [Placed in Library. See No. LT. and English versions) under article 151 2140/86] (1) of the Constitution :- ( bllerrupliom) MR. SPEAKER : I did not allow it. (1) 'Report of the Comptroller and You have got certain rules Mr. Soz. Auditor General of India for the (Interruption.) year 1984-Union Government (Commercial) Part-I-Introduction. [Translation) (Placed in Library. See No. LT· 2136/86.] MR. SPEAKER: I can listen to you only under some rule. (2) Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India for the (Interruptions J •• year 1984-Union Government [En,lish) (Commercial}-Part-II-Resume of the Company Auditors' Reports MR SPEAK.ER : Not aHowed. and Comments on Accounts of Go ~ernment Companies. Shri Shivraj V. PatH. [Placed in Li brary. See No. L T - 2137/86.] Annual Report _d Review on National Institute of-Immunology, New Delhi, for (3) Report of the Comptroller and tbe year 1984-8~. Birbal Sarhn' Institute of Auditor General of India for the Palaeobotany, Luckoow, for Hie year 1984- year 1984--Union Government 85, Tata Institute of FundameataJ Research (Commercial)-Part-II-Audit Obse- Bombay, for tbe year 1984"8S, erC'. rvations on Individual Topics. (Placed in Library. See No. L T- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 2138/86.] MINISTR Y OF SCIENCE AND TECH- NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART- Notifications uader Pensions Act and aDder MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, Article 320 (5) of the Constitution ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE AND SPACE (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC PATIL): I beg to lay on the Table- GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): I beg to lay 1) (i) A copy of the Annual Report on the Table- (Hindi and English versions) of the National Institute of (1) A copy of the Payment of Arrears Immunology, New Delhi, of Pension (Nomination) Third for the year 1984-85, along Amendment) Rules, 1985 (Hindi with Audited Accounts. and English versions) published in Notification No. S.O. 73 in (ii) A statement Hindi &. EnaHsh Gazette of India dated the 11 th versions) regarding Review January, 1986, under section 16 by the Government on the of the Pensions Act, 1871. working of the National (Placed in Lffirary, S~ NO. 'LT- 2139/68 .1 ··Not t~Qt4~~ 107 PHAtGUN,A 14. J.a01 (SAKA.)

Institute of ImmunolOJY, Review by the GovernlQ.ent New Delbi, for the year on the working of the 1984-85. BQse Institute, Calcutta, for [Placed in Library. See No. tho year 1984·85. LT-2141/86.] [Placed in Library. See No. LT -2_144/86.] (2) (i) A copy of the Annual Re- port (Hindi and English ver- (5) (i) A copy of the Annual Re- sions) of the Birbal Sahni port (Hindi and Englisb ver- Instit.lite of. Palaeobotany, sions) of the Indian Associa- Lucknow, for the year 1984- tion for the Cultivation of 85 along with Audited Acco- Science, Calcutta, for the unts. year 1984-85 along with Au- dited Accounts. (Ii) A statement (Hindi and English versions) regarding (ii) A statement (Hindi and Review by the Government English versions) regarding on the working of the Birbal Review by the Government Sahni Institute of Palaeobo- on the working of the Indian tany, Lucknow, for the year Association for the Cultiva- 1984-85. [Placed in Library. tion of Science, Ca1cutta, See No. LT-2142/86.] for the year 1984-85.

(1) (i) A copy of the Annual Re- [Placed in Library. See No. port (Hindi and Engli~h ver- L T-2145/86.] sions) of the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, Statements re Review on Bnd Annual Re- Bombay, for the year 1984- port of Blaarat Electrooics Ltd, Banplore, 85. for the year 1984-85.

(ii) A copy of the Annual Acco- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE unts (Hindi and English ver- DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE PRO- sions) of the Tata Institute DUCTION AND DEFENCE SUPPLIES of Fundamental Research, (SHRI SUKH RAM) : I beg to lay on Bombay, for the year 1984- the Table- 8S together with Audit Re- port thereon. (1) A copy each of the following papers (Hindi and EnglIsh ver- (iii) A statement (Hindi and Eng- sions) under sub-section (I) of lish versions) regarding Re- section 619A of the Companies view by the Government on Act, 1956 :- the working of the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, Bombay, for the (i) A statement regarding Re- year 1984-85. (Placed in view by the Government on Library. See No.LT-243/86.) the working of the Bharat Electronics Limlted~ Banga- (4) (i) A copy of the Annual Re- lore, for the year 1984-85. port (Hindi and EnSlish versions) of the Bose Insti- (ii) Annual Report of the Bbarat tute, Calcutta, for the year Electronics Limited for the 1984-85 along with Audited year 1984-85 along wIth A~counts. Audited Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller (ii) A st~tement (Hiptii and and Auditor Qeneral th~r~" ,.. Enalish versi ons) reaardinl OQ. 199 Com",. on 'Wel/gre 01 MARCH S, 1986 SC,mJST

(2) A statement (Hindi and English (English] versions) showing reasons for delay in laying the papers men- MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Soz, may I tioned at (1) above. [Placed in ask you to leave the House? Library. See No. L T- 2146/86.] PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Bara- mulla): I am representing 7 lakh people in nly constituency. I want to ask you, 11.14 hra. Sir ...... '.' COMMITTEE ON PRIVATE MEM- ( Interruptions) BERS' BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS TWELFTH REPORT MR. SPEAKER: May I ask you to withdraw from the House? [Bn,lish] PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: Why? SHRI M. TRAMBI DORAI (Dhnr- I am saying something very politely but mapuri) : I beg to present the Twelfth firmly. Report (Hindi and 'English versions) of the Committee on Private Members' Bills and [Trans fat ionJ Rosolutions. MR. SPEAKER Experienced cone- agues are sitting beside you, please learn from them. 12.14-1/2 hr., PROF. SATFUDDIN SOZ: I have COMMITTEE ON WELFARE OF SCH- been with them and I have already learnt. EDULED CASTES AND SCHEDULED Time should be given to us al~o, we also TRIBES na\e problems. REPORTS OF STUDY TOURS (Interruptions)

{En~lishJ [EnglishJ

SHRI K. D. SULTANPURI (Simla): MR. SPEAKER : E.\perienced people 1 beg to lay on the Table a copy each of are sittIng beside you. There are rules the following Reports (Hindi and English under whIch you can ask. But can you go versions) of the Study Tours of the Commi- on at breakneck speed, without my permis- ttee on the Welfare of Scheduled Castes siun, without any rules, without any regu- and Scheduled Tribes :- lation, without any motion and allow it to go on recor j ? No, You are destroyina (i) Report of the Study Tour of the very basis of your stand. Study Group I of the Committee on its visit to Bhopal and Indore PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : We are during November, 1985. the people who have suffered. If you listen for half-a-minute then I will not waJk out. (ii) R.eport of the Study Tour of Study Group II of the Committee MR. SPEAKER: I wiJl not listen. on it~ visit to Udaipur and Jaipur PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: T)ten I during November, 1985. will walk out:

MR. SPEAKER : No threats. You are ( Int-trruptions) welcome. Do you mean to say that the [Tr.".lation] whole House is without any conscience? PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: I am not Mil. SPEAlC.ER : Can you make law doing anything against the rules. by mere shoutina ? (Prof· Saifuddin Soz then left the housr) (Interruption!) ~Ol St. unJe, Rule 199

12.17 brl. of Korea (South K.orea)t Republic of China (Taiwan), Hong Kong, Cambodia and STATEMENT UNDER RULE 199 Thailand from 15th November 1969 to 7th December, 1969, as a 1\fember of the Fourth Lok Sabha to which I had been elected in 1967 as its youngest Member SHRI K.P. SINGH DEO (Dhenkanal) and was the Chief Whip OC the Swatantra 1vfr. Speaker, Sir, I am grateful to you for Party in Parliament then. On the return leg permitting me this opportunity under Rule of my study tour I visited Taiwan. I was a 199 of the Rules of Procedure to make a delegate attending the Asian Parliamentar- statement in this august House with regard ians Union Meet at Taipeh. This was to my resignation from the Council of attended by more than 40 Members of Ministers. Parliament/Senators of 10 Asian countries including India. There were Members of It was kind of the Prime Minister to Parliament from New Zealand and Austra- have informed me that in a charge sheet to lia too. The leader of the delegation was be filed by the Governnlent against on~ Shri Dayabhai Patel, son of late Sardar Ram Swarup, my name appeared amongst Patel, who was the Deputy Leader of the other public men. Even v.ithout the be- Swatantra Party in Parliament and senior nefit of seeing the content or the context Vice-President of the Party at that time. in which my name figured in the charge The Conference was inaugurated by Gen- sheet, I tendered my resignation from the eralissmo Chiang-Kai-Shek, the President Council of Ministers in order to uphold of Taiwan. the propriety and dignity of Parliamentary democracy and the high tradition of public The entire e1{penses of my study tour, life which the hone Prime Minister gra- including that of my wife who accompanied ciously accepted immediately. me, were borne from our own resources. The complete itinerary was prepared by While the contents of the charge sheet Air India, Delhi. The air fare of the two received wide coverage in the news meaia, Air InJia tickets No. 0983-3482645/6/7 leading to conjectures, rumours and as~ and No. 0983-3482648/9/50 amounting to umptions, I was unable to obtain a certi.l1- Rs. 10,646/-(R 5.53 ... 3/-each) was drawn cd copy of the charge sheet. My lawyer vide cheque No. 071799 from the State was informed that sl'ch capies can only be Bank of India, Park Street Branch, made available to either an accused or a Calcutta, O'_Ir bankers. I had also drawn witness. I did not come under either foreign exchange from the Reserve Bank of the categories. Subsequently. 1 of India \\. hich was admissible unjer the learnt. fronl a copy of the Rules for Members of Parliament who charge sheet in circulation that my undeTlake study tours. All travel arrange- name has been mentioned in two places in ments ror the study tour \\ere In total con- the narration without any specific charges. formity with the rules, regulations, laws of Therefore, I deem it my duty to place the the land and protocol prevalent at the time facts concerning me vis-a-vis the mentions and, cleared by Government. made in the charge sheet for the information of this august House to which I have Sir. it is with infinite anguish and been elected. sorrow that Imention that all these facts cou1d have been verified before my name My name has been referred to in the first was alluded to in the manner it has been place at Para 9 of the charge sheet. I quote done. All these facts can still be verified "It 'was seen that the names of the folIo\\. ing now by the investigating agencies/authori- M.Ps./former M.P.s. who ba\te been spons- ties. I w

[Sbn K. P. Singh Deo] Shrimati Indira Gandhi, I could render my services to country and help build a Taiwan was in consonance with enlightened tm strong, united India on the basis of policies national sclf interest. of economic self-reliance within the ,country and non-alignment in international affairs, The other mention of my name in the which she had placed befor.e the nation. said chMgC sheet is at page 12 which reads, Besides, I was attracted by the 20-point I qUGte: URam Swarup's efforts were programme formulated by her for the all- alWa~s dirccted to select Members of Parliament in tbe ruling party. While evjation of the sufferings of the backward and undcr-privilesed in the country. I during the Janata Party regime the con- stand fully committed to national inte_gra- centration was 00 ••••••••• (a number of tion and communal harmony and offer my name~ during Congress (I) regime his full support and services to my young Jea .. efforts went directed towards (8 number of names) incJuding mine". Once again der, the Prime Minister, in fulfilling the there is no specific charge agaihst me. noble tasks and implementing the Congress po1icies as well as manfully tackling the chaHenges facing the country, with courage I was elected to the 7th Lok Sabha as and fortitude. a COft~ress (I) member in January, 1980 and was appointed Deputy Minister of ~nce on 15th January, 1982. It is a fact I would Jike to give my solemn assura- that in my capacity as an M.P. like other nce that I am undeI oath and pledge to colleagues in this august House as well preserve, protect and safeguard the unity, as all those in public life, I have perforce integrity, security and sovereignty of the to meet and be introduced to many people country, as well as the Constitution of fr~ aU walks of life. People also come India, both as a Member of this august with various public grievances, probJem~, Ho use as well as a se rving officer in the alXPlication~ petitions, in vitatioos and Territorial Army and that no sacrifice is reguests to attend various functions and too great to uphold it. In tbe immo~tal participate in conferences, meetings, dis- words of Sant Tulsidas : clISSioAS and seminars. Invitations also RGghuku/ reel Soda Chali ayu come from institutions, organisations and Pran jaye, par vachan na jayee. JIJi'Ssi0os as well as diplomats. There have been many occasions where I have respon- It is in this context, I have had the ded to such invitations as welJ as have privilege of serving in a Territorial Army recipt:ocated some times. It is neither Regiment in the 1971 war, charged with possible nor practicalJy feasible on my part the responsibility of providing Air Defence all an M~P. to check on the antecedents of to vital areas of the country and Defence evet"Y individual or body before being int- installations. The Regiment was recipient roduced or attending to him. There appe- of two gallantry awards for its performanoe ars to be no code of conduct for M.Ps. in in the 1971 war. I have also had the pri.. dealing with such situation. vilege of being associated with the organis-- ation and conduct of IX Asiad 1982 beiides . During this period, Shri Rama Swarup the 7th NAM 1983 and the CHooM 1983 might have met me at functions and gather- in which I was a de-legato too. lOSS wher~ I was also invited. Thereafter" I do not recollect having met him. After my My conscience is clear. I have not inclusion in the Council of Ministers from done anythinl cOBscio"sly or unconciously 1Sth of Jan ua ry ,1982 till I resigned, I have that would in any way injure or prejudice never attended any function of any ,'oreign national intorest. I can only plead that mission without tbe clearance of the public mon should be saved from the protocol of the Ministry of External Affairs insinuatiOD£ and slander of unscrupuJous or which was not connected with my PCU'SODS who may try to extricate t~ms~'Ves Ministerial/Parliamentary functions. by implicating innocent pcraon£ who hflVC I joined the Congress in 1977 with the no forum to defend themselves in such full conviction and realisation that under cases. 1 now leave it to my bQn. oollealucs lhe dyoamic and inspiriDI leaderlhip of and poors. of botb the HouHs aa4 tile PHALOUNA '{4, 19b7 (S,.,XA)

people who have -known me since 1967, to MR. SPEAKER: I heard it. I judge me. Our motto is '·Satya mel'a know. Jayate" and I am sure truth will prevail in the end. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE :Wc are not worried about the property. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE We are worried about the character. (Rajaput): Mr. spedker, Sir, I kndw that You must defend our character and no debate can be asked on it. But as the values. Speaker who is the custodian of our dig. nily and prestige, I want to bring to your MR. SPEAKER : I am one with you notice that sbme agencies are forcing Ram on this subject. Don't worry. Swarup to make false aJlegations in writing against some Members of Parliament. You SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (Mahubna- sllould inquire into the matter. I think, it gar): You should find out the way. is ~Iear from the statement that he has a clean political character. One may differ MR. SPEAKER : I have to find ways with his political opinion. But he has a and means. clean record. But this is what is being done by some elements and you should SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY You guard the dignity and prestige of the Mem- have to find out. ber of Parliament. We want an assurance .rom you that you will guard the prestige MR. SPEAKER: I have to work and dignity of the Members 0_ Parliament. under rules and regulations. You see thc trend that is going on. Some (Int~'rUplions) . I have given you agencies are forcing and coercing Shri my assurance that I stand one with you Ram Swarup to make allegations and as far as honour and respect and integrity statements against Members of Parlia- of Members is concerned. \\'e are unnece- ment. You should go into all that. ssarily dragged in. This is a slur. We are ( Interruption3) going to deaJ with it according to the rules. Let me have the chance. MR. SPEAKER: I told that when the case is over, we will take it up at a SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirhaf): later stage, not now. (Interruptions) What troubles us also is the role of the Intelligence Agencies and the Police. What PROF. N.G. RANGA (Guntur): We role are they playing in this ? on this side who 'eheartedly agree with the demand of Mr. Dandavate. MR. SPEAKER: Now it is sub- judice. When the time comes, we will MR. SPEAKER: I have got my take it up. compulsions. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: The PROF. N. G. RANGA: You have modus operandi of the shady characters to protect our reputation. who may be doing ..•• (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: It is a sub-judice SHRI BHAGWA T JHA AZAD (Bha- case. Let me wait and see. gal pur) : You have a Committee of the ( Int~r,uplioll$) House. An honest Minister has been maligned MR. SPEAKER : What more can I like this in public life. say now? Do you want me to repeat the same thing? I said whatever I could. ·PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: It (llll~'rupt ions) is very clear from tlle statement and what 1s (\a~\)eni11&' i~ tliis HouSe. MR. SPEAKER: I have said, Mr. Raqaji, I cannot dQ anythiJl8 mona. IIfet ",.,", qlf.l.) 207 Sf. under Ru/~ 199 MARCH 5, 1986 Personlll Exp/llnfltions 208 under Rul• .3j7

PROF. N. G. RANGA: With great PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS UN- difficulty, they are allowed to make their DER RULE 357 statements and we find it very embarassing [English] for us. (i) Sbri D.P. Jadeja MR. SPEAKE~ I have not allowed SHRI D. P. JADEJA (Jamnaaar) : anybody to make a statement. Under Rule 357 I would lJike to inform the han. House the following facts since PROF. N.G. RANGA: Kindly listen my name has come up in newspapers as to me. My complaint is about the CBI, having been mentioned in the charge-sheet the Police or other authorities. Why have made against Shri Rama Swaroop. they given out the name without first of all ascertaining if there is any truth or I have been in Parliament for three not? People of different parties are terms. It has 'always been my endeavour unnecessarily being harassed. to project a good image of India abroad during my several visits to over fifty MR. SPEAKER: I anl one with you. countries. Why cannot you listen to me? I say that I am one with you. Since 1957 1 have been associated with nlany social and political organisations with PROF. N. G. RANGA : Why do )'ou a wide range of acti\·ities and my public get excited? life is an open book.

MR. SPEAKER: I say I am one I have been associated with several with you. Friendship Societies and I have ~ought to win friends for I ndia abroad and present a good image o\erseas. PROF. N. G. RANG A : Arc we to shout in order to be heard? The Indo-German Parliam~ntary group MR. SPEAKER. I am one with you of \\ hich I am a co-convenor is an oriain this. Do you listen? nisation of 1 ndIan and German Parlia- Inentarians to better friendly and closer relations. PROF. MADHU DANDAYATE Don't be one with him with such "iolence. I have visited Taiwan to study the ship- breaking industry and possibilities in deep MR. SPEAKER: I am one with him. sea fishing joint ventures. (Interruptions). That is why, I have to tell you that I have to go accordini to the Development of Trade and increase in rules. I cannot break them. cultural ties will strengthen our relations and besides my parliamentary duties, I SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD : In have sought to encourage such construc- the House, we are speaking against black- tive activities. marketeers, tax evaders and smugg1ers. They wiJl put our name in the records. . I say it with all emphasis at my com- Police will find the name and they will say mand that in no way I associated myseh they will charge-sheet. Is this the way of with any antinational activity. functioning ? (ii) Shri Arvind Netam MR. SPEAKER: I shall find a way SHRI ARVIND NETAM (Kanker): and then do it. I am one wit h the Ho\.\se It is with considerable anguish that I rise wholeheartedly. today to make a statement under Rule 357. I wish I had been spared from makin,8 this state~el1t. HQ\v~vo(t sinc. the 209 Personlll Explanations PHALGUNA 14; 1.907 (SAKA) , M.tter8 limier 210 under Rule 357 Rule 377 entire Ramswaroop episode has recei\.ed played by the investigating authorities wide and extensive publicity and my name themselves. has been dragged, I deem it my duty to place the correct facts before this august MR. SPEAKER: We will 80 accor- House and let the hon. Members judge and ding to the rules. You can come and see know the correct position. . me.

The imputation against me is totally SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI(Guwahati): baseless. In the first instance, I may There is no comp1aint or allegation against mention that I have never met Dr. Rolf any member. Why then are their names Breitenstein. There is, therefore, no ques-~ being dragged? tion of my attending any dinner hosted by (Interruptions) Dr. Rolf Breitenstein of an exclusive nature. Nor I was convener of Indo- MR. SPEAKER: Let the time come Federal Republic of Germany Par1iament- and we will see ary body. I was only a member. The Indo-FRG Parliamentary body was like any other Parliamentary forums between 12.34 hrl, India and some otb~r foreign country. It had a very large membership. And many BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE of n1Y colleagues in this House and Rajya Twentieth Report Sabha were members of Indo-FRG Parlia- mentary Group. I considered nothing [EngIi3h] wrong in being a member of this Forum since relations between the two countrie~ THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- are friendly an~ there have been many TARY AFFAIRS AND TOURISM (SHRI areas of co-operation hetween them. H.K.L. BHAGAT): I beg to move: The only function which I had attended of ] ndo-FR G Parliamentary body was held '"That thi~ House do agree with at the Parliament House Annexe, the Twentieth Report of the Business Advisory Committe. I have been a member of this august presented to the House on the House in the Fifth, Seventh and the pre- 4t h March, J 986. " sent Lok Sabha. I have always stood firm by the oath 1 have taken as a member MR. SPEAKER: The question is : of this august House. I have already been guided by the most honourable motJves . ·That this House do agree with and conduct in the discharge of my func- the TwentietJ, Report of the Bus- tions as a Member of Parliamenf. I could iness Advisory Committee presen- not conceive of doing anything which ted to the Houste on the 4th would seem remotely regarded as being March 1986". against the national interest. The motion was adopted.

Many Members of Parliament have visited Taiwan. I have also visited Taiwan. but by itself this cannot at all be regarded 12.35 hrs. as objectionable or against the interest of the country. MATTERS UNDER RULE 377

SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY {EnKlish] (Puri): Why not the Home Minister (i) Need to improve working of tela- make a statement? It is not so serious? eommunicatioD system II} Kota ••d Jhalawar districts of RaJastbu. SHRI V. KISHORE CHANDRA S. DBO '(Parvathipuram): The most distur- SHRI JUJHAR SINGH (Jhalawar): bin, npect of the whole thin. is tbe tole Sir J the operational tfti~icn~)' of tho Tol... 2U M.tt~r8 uhli~r MARCH S. 1'86 Rule 377 212

[Shri Jujhar Singh] predominantly agricultural area so as to rerno\-e its backwardness and solve the communication Department on the slnall problem of unemployment. I, therefore, and big Telephone Exchang~.;; in Kota and request the h·)n. Industry Minister to set 1halawar district of Rajasthan is very unsa- up the above mentioned indt1.;:try there, tisfactory t

[Eng'i,h] There have been constant complaints from telephone consumers of Jha- (iii) Demand for lifting Dan on fiHing up lawar town, Jhalrapatnam RnmgaT'j of exis'ing varancles and the creatioQ Mani, Bhawapi-Mandi. Sangod and other sma 11 piaces to the senior offi- of new posts in the P&T Department. cers even to the Minister of Tele- and PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA- communication to improve the working SHAR(Hamirpur) : Sir, the continued ban efficiency of the Department, but nothing on the filling up of existing vacancies and substantial h3s been achieved so far. The the creation of new posts since 1985 has be- behaviour of the operators and the local come a source of c'{treme hardship to tem- officers towards te!ephone consumers is porary and ad hoc employees and t he pros- rllde ano irre~ponsi~le and the complaints pective ca~ldjdates for employment likely of wrong billing and false billing are also to cross the maximum age Hmit' of recruit- not uncommon. ment. It is also proving counter-pro. Because of the beh:::."iollr of the staff ducth e. Over ten thousand reserved trai- and the poor quality of equipment at ned Pool employees in Posts and Telecom- most of these places, the trunk calls do munication Departments are agitated on not nlature for days together. The percen- this score, to give just one instance. tage of maturity of calis at some places is Moreover, there i~ a !oss of revenue due less than 20 for days together. I t is at no to the non-availability of trained staff. A time convincinJly sati,fa.;tory. number of new Telephone Exchanges which have already bee!! installed cafin9t be conl- Inis~ioned for want of :')t.:.ff. Thousands of 12·36 brs. sanctioned Branch Post Offices cannot be [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER opened eyen though there were targcb in in the chair] the Sixth Fi\ e-Year Plan for this r-urpo-,e. It is requested that the functioning of the Telecommunication systerr in KL ta I, therefore, request the' Union Govern- and Jhalav.ar districts of Rajasth2n should ment, particularly the Minister of Finance, be improved without tl1rther d~lay. to lift the ban to:aHy or rdax it ~o that the P & T Departments are exempted [T,a/l~ltltion] from its operation a" was done in the case of the l-,an imposed during the term 01 the (ii) Demand for setting up 8 chemical FJ[lh ,. -: G '- Sabh.,_ based fertilizer factory in Tikamgarb district of 1'riadhya Pradesh. [TranslaTion]

SHRIMATI VIDYAVATI CHATUR- (iv) Demand for making registration of VEDI (Khajuraho) Even after so marriages obligatory. many years of indcpendenc~, not a ~ingle medium or heavy industry has been set up SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL (Kota) : in the public or the private Stctor in dis- Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, under Rule 377 trict Tikamgarh of Madhya Pradesh, which 1 \"ould like to draw the attention of the is a no-industry dic;~rict. The pipe-line of House to the need to make registration of natural gas from Guna to- the districts of marriages obhgatory by treating it as a Uttar Pradesh is b;:ing laid through Tikam- contract. garh. In view thereof, a chemical fertilizer factory or some other chemical factory Reli~ion has an important place in our should be set up in this ba~kw~rd and country. The pan:nt~ of !Q~ bride ro,ard , ., l . 213 Matters u/ule" PHAtGUNA 14, 1901 (SAKA) Rule 177

it as thdir religious obligation to give some the period upto 30.6.1987, an assistance of gifts to the bridegroom and his relatives Rs. 9.44 crores has been sanctioned by known as dowry at the time of 'Kanyadan'. G9vernment of India. 110 towns in the State are facing acute drinking water scar- During the P05t few year" dowry, has city. In order to ensure reJular water taken an ugly shape which has resulted in supply to those towns, Government has apprehension in the mind of the parents already undertaken the work of emergency about the happy married life of their water supply schemes costing Rs. 1543·33 daughters. After the marriage, the bride- lakhs. Here also a meagre assistance of groom party puts prcl)~ure on the hri<.le Rs. 1.20 crores has been sanctioned by the to bring more and more jn cash and kind Government of India. J am r-:qucsting the from her parenh ahd when sllch demands Central Gon:rnmen t , through you Sir, to are not met they do not hesitate to im- consider the case of Maharac,htra syrr.- nlo1ate the girl or adopt o!her c'uel me- pathetically and rele~se more fl1ncis to meet thods to kill her due to which do\vry ha ... the situation. become a stigma on the so~iety. • (vi) Demand for ta:;"'in~ necessary mea. sures to pro ...·j(le f;idlitie" to fisher* men at Kasaragod Harbour in Kerala. Recently, Government ha·,.·e made pro- \'ision whereby the bride side as \~·~11 ClS the SHRI 1. RAI\rtA RAI (Kasaragod): bridegroom sid have to gi\'~ details of the 1 hough our country has a vast potential articles given at the time or marriage a~ in Arabian Sea to exploit fishing. dc\'clop- dowry. But this provision rs not being ment has been hampered because of lack followed in practice and as a result thereof of shore facililies and suitable D13.rketing there is stiH appre·len~ion. in the minJ of a\enues i~1c!uding faciiities for freezing and the pe·)pk. canning. Kerala has a coast line of 5S0 km'). Though it is ; C~o of InJia's coast 40o~ I, therefore, request the i1-I,1. l\lini::.ler line it contributes of the 5shery proof Home Affairs to prQvide for fl!gistratlon ducts exp'.J':-fed from India. Kas2ragod of marriages by treating them as contr:1;:::t town in Kerala has a n~Hural harbour in so that the apprehension in the mind of the the river estuary whic is CCr.171~tely neg- parents of the girl could be remo\ ed to lected due to silting. Though a fishing har- some exten t. bour is recently built on the riv~r side, this is used only for bringing the boat near [English) the road to unload the fish catch. Neither the boats can be p:lfked there nor any (v) Need to provide more financial assis- repair work can he made to the boats. A taDce to the State Government of l\ta' arasb- tra for solving drlOking water problem in deep passage by putting up bunc's on either the State. side of th::: riYer mouth can provide the boats a safe pas~age to the existing fish SHRIMATI USHA CHOUDHARI : harbour. This can even prevt;nt the natur.ll (Amravati): The State of Maharashtra boat par ing place called 'GORE' from is ,facing acute sC:lrcity of drinking water silting. Immediate attention has to be given due to severe drought conditions. As on to the natural Port at Kasaragod to remove 22nd February. 1936, there were as many the difficulties of a large number of fisher as 872 vill

SHRI M.R. SAIKIA (Now- Imposition of such terms indicate as if gong) : Sir, Assam is a land of excess the entire episode is to stop work and for- water in summer and practically no water ce the workers to accept terms derogatory in winter in the dry months. As a conse- to their own interest. Besides th~ N.B.C.C. quence this State which serves as a bowel management has refused to pay equal or the North Eastern region suffers fram wages for equal work. Hence intervention regular and frequent visits of high flood by the Union Government for lifting of' causing human suffering, loss of lives and lock-out and settlement OJ the just demands properties of serious proportions. In addi- and implementation of the aareement is tion, the recurrent flood cause serious dis- demanded. location of road for railway communication causing great distress economical1y or (Translation] otherwise. The Brahmaputra Board consti- t uted by the Central Government has sub- (~iil) Demand for achieving the oh jectives laid down in tbe Sixth Five Year Plan mitted a plan for construction of a dam for removal of poverty and un-emp- across river Subansiri which has its source loyment in Bihar. in Himalayas. The cost of the proposed dam 'Would be nearly Rs. 3068.00 crores. SHRI RAMASHRA Y PRASAD The project when completed will not on1y SINGH (Jahanabad) Mr. Deputy control flood but also will provide Jl1uch Speaker, Sir. the Government of India had needed irrigation facility for multiple culti- forrnttlated a plan for the removal of po- vation of crops not only in Arunachal but verty and elimination of extremists in the also in Assam valley. Further this project country, The National Development will generate 4800 MW of electricity costing Council and the Bihar legislature had deci- only 21 (twenty one) paise per unit against ded to train 6 lakh unemployed youths in the present levy of more than 65 (sixty five the rural areas of Bihar and to provide paise per unit. It will not only hel p N. E. employment to tl\em during the Sixth Five region in the matter of supply of power Y car PJan. The Sixth Five Year Plan but also other neighbouring States in India. ended on March 31, 1985 but hardly I urgently urge upon the Union Govern- 36.000 unemployed youths have been trai- ment to sanction the required amount of Ded to date. This welfare scheme was in- monetary grant as e~timated by the tended to cover each and every Block but Brahma putra Board. even then it could not be implemented in 25 Blocks.of lahanabad sub.. divi ion. It was proposed in the Sixth Five Year Plan to raise 21.61.000 .families, in other words RAILWAY BUDGET 1986-87~GENERAL 1.5 crore persons, of the Bihar state above DISCUSSION-Contd. the poverty line by March 1985. The Gover- ament of India had provided Rs. 4S0 crores [English) for this purpose. But against this target Dot even 27,000 people were raised above MR. DEPUTY -SPEAKER : The tbe proveny line during the Sixth S Year House wiU now take up further gemn-aJ Plan as per the norms of the Government. discussion on the Budget (Railways) for It was. proposed in th~ Sixth Plan to pro- 1986-87. There is a long list ()f han. Mem.. vide COW1l, buffaloes, hens, pigs, rickmaws bers Who want to participate in the debate. .'Se. ~ to the families'reeling under poverty So, I request the han. Membe.s lOt in".", dleir ,jowme. to be very brief and < take only I 2t' PHALGUNA 14.. 1907(SAXA) 2.1 five nlinutes. They :,hould only mention ta nee of J ()() Kilometres. It will connect Jai- the points concerning their consti- sairner with Delhi directly. Survey for this tuency. Those who speak for more than line was conducted in 1949. five minutes it will not go into the record. Now, I caJl Shri Yirdhi Chander Jain •.• Jaisalmer' is an important tourist centre. The Rajasthan Canal or the Indita [Translati"n] Gandhi Canal has also reached there. Oil and Gas have a) so been struck in that SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN area. It is a very important pJace from (Barmer) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I every point of view. lhe agricultural pro- welcome the Railway Budget for 1986-87 duction wiJ] also increase there. It is also presented in the House. I n this Budget no important from the point of view of mine- increase has been effected in the ireight rals. We shall be grateful to you if survey rates. and fares of ordinary trains. I wel- is conducted and a railway line is laid come this step also. there. If a railway line is iaid from Pha- laudi to Kolapat, it will be 01 immense The increase in the second class fares advantage to the desert area. of Mail and Express trains and First class and Air-conditioned fares is marginal. This increase works out to be Re. 1 and The broad gauge line from Pathankot somewhere Rs. 2. It does not make much to Kodala via Bikaner should be extended difference. I welcome the decision of en- to Barmer via laisalmer, This would hancing fares marginally. benefit an important border area of Rajasthan. The Rajasthan canal is also likely to reach that area I also express my thanks to the han. which will result in the increase of agri- Railway Minister for achieving success in cultural production. This railway line -is, regard to the safety, punctuality in the therefore, very Important from every point RaHways as well as increasing speed of the of view and it should be taken up in the trains. Seventh Five Year plan.

It is a welcome step to start train ser- "icc in the desert areas from Barmer to In my constituency there is an area Agra Fort. A Super Fast Train 'Medore of 45 kilometres from Ramgarh to Hamina. Express' has also been introduced from High quality lime has been found in large Delhi' to Jodhpur. It leaves Delhi at 6.10 quantity in Ramgarh. Lime of such high p.m. and reaches Jodhpur the following day purity is not available anywhere else. This at 10.45 A.M. Covermg a distance of 900 can bring iInprovement in the condition kilometres in such a short time on a of laisalmer district. If this railway line is metre-gauge Hne is a record in itself. I Jaid there, laisalrner district can become would like to convey my thanks to the industrially advanced. There is need to hon. Minister for this. take this aspect into account.

No policy is being formulated for lay- I express my thanks to the han. Mini- ing new railway lines in the desert areas. ster for accepting some of my proposals No provision for new railway lines for submitted by me earlier. Some coaches our desert areas was made in the Sixth, from Kutch (Western Railway) are con- Fifth and the Fourth Five Year Plans. My nected at Bheelra with the train running parliamentary constituency is Barmer and between Jodhpur and Ahmedabad-a dis- the constituency of 1he RaHway Minister is tance of 265-266 kilometres. This creates in Haryana. My constituency is bigger innumerable difficulties. We want that than -even Haryana state. Neither has any t his train sbould be an independent one 'Survey been conducted for new railway and r\oln from Jodhpur to BJjilwara via lines in those areas nor any railway line Ahmedabad. It should have no connection is proposed to be laid there. I have sub- with Kutch. An independent train will mitted-. proposal to provide a railway give great relief to the people of Barmcr 'inc between Phalaudi and Kblapat, a dis- and Jalol'e districts. I' had made roqueet i&l- 219 MARCH ;, 1986

[Shri Virdhi Chander Jain] therefore, request the hon. Mini~tcr that till the railway line is laid there, some this connection earlier also. Action coaches should be exhibited there so that should be taken on it without delay. we can show them to the public and tell them that a train looks like this. You had agreed earlier also for setting up a coach factory in Rajasthan. Shri 13.00 hrs. Girdhari Lal Vyas had suggested that the factory be set up in Ajmer and I would Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I propose recommend Jodhpur for it. It is situated that a ,:ailway line should be laid from in the heart of the de~ert areas and in Satna to Damoh ria Panna, Chhatarpur, t his way the desert areas \\ i 11 be grea t ly Malhara, Hirapur and Bakasvaha. There benefited. Jodhpur is centrally located and are huge rock-pho')phate deposits in Hira- there is a workshop also which \\ ould be pur and ir on ure is also available in quite helpful. It will accelerate the abundance in the nearby areas. At present, development of this del:)ert areas. rock phosphate is sent to Sasar through truck.s which it;; ahout 80 kms. away. From there that is sent by rail to South for manl1&'acturing fertili~ers. The small Mr. DEPVTY-SPEAKER Plea<;e factory owners there do not get wagollS. conclude now. 1 request the hon. 't\1inister to take note of thIS and mak.e available wagons to the [Translarion] small factory owners who sent rock phosphate to South for manufacturing SARI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: I fertilisers. \\"hen the industrialists are shall conclude in two minutes. I want that asked to set up their factori::s in that area the coach factory should be set up in they reply that rail .acilities are not avai- Jodhpur so as to accelerate the de\ elop- lable there. \Vhen \\-e request the Rail- ment of the desert areas. \\. ays, it h replied that the survey there show~ that scheme is not viable and there The Reforms Comn1ittee has made re- is the constraint of resources also. I recommendations in regard to the metre quest the hon. Minister that if he nlakes gauge line. Vyasji has suggested that a up his mind the resources can definitely separate zone be created. I also support be mobilised. Where there is wiJl there this suggestion. ThiS work should be is away. If the hon. Min ister decides to taken up for the de\elopment of the do a thing the re'iources are bound to be desert areas. With these word~ 1 support avadable. I want to give a suggestion. the Budget presented here. J u~t as the R ural Electrification Corpora- tion ha<:; issued bonds, if the Railways SHRI DAL CHANDER JAJN also issue bonds to construct new rail (Damoh) = 1\1r. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the lines and provide rail lines in the back- Railway Budget presented by the hon. ward areas, it will be a commendable step. Railway Minister has been prepared with I may also submit that no fast trains run imagination and perception for which I in the backward areas but on the iincs want to thank him. Alongwith it, I want where a fast train is already running, ano- to draw your attention to\\-ards certain ther fast train is made avaliable. A train issues. should be started from Yaranasi to Ahmedabad via Katni, Bina, Bhopal,. and Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, my area is Indore and another train should be start- Bundelkhand which is a backward area and ed from Varanasi to Bombay via Allaha- majority of the people there ha .... e not bad, Katni, Bina, Bhopal, Itarsi. I hope seen a train so far. If the people there the hon. l.... finister will consider this re- are asked to describe a train etc., the quest seriously. It win not be an exagge- people living in the remote villages will ration if Bundelkhand is caJJed Madhya not be able to describe it because they Bharat (Central India). Our area is 'No- . have no conception of a train. There is industry district'. So far no first class no rail line in Bundelkhand. I would, industry has been set up there. If a coaeb 221 1f.ailwllY lludg~t, PHALGUNA 14. 1907 (SAKA) 1986-87 222

factory is opened there, it will prove very Ministar of Tran'iport, who has presented beneficial for the people of the area. The the Railway Budget, has taken care of the infrastructure required for setting up the raising 0'" funds from the section which can factory is available there. Overbridges on afford to pay higher fares for the services. the railway crossings on the national high- The philosophy behind the Budget is that ways are constructed by the Railways as the Railways want to contribu te in checking per the norms laid do~n by them. The the inflationary pressures. Hence the fre- hon. Transport Minister is sitting here ight tariff has been kept untouched. It has . and surface and railway transport both taken care of the outlay by raising it to are under him. I, th~refore, want that Rs. -250 crores through bonds. But the approach roads on the national highways thing is that even L' they enhance the outlay should also be constructed by the Trans- this will not allow for the required growth port (Railways) Mini')try. I think the of the Railways. Still higher outlay would entire House will be one with me 'on this be needed to clear the massive backlOi: in suggestion. For this, [ hope you will change many directions. I must say that in this the policy. I want to give an example. Budget, the Tranliport l'v1inister has observ- There is level crossing in Sagar on the ed, strict financial dbcipline which is rarely National Highways. At least 40 trains found in Public Sector organisation these pass through that crossing. If for days. one train, the gates are closed for 10 (Interruptions) minutes, which usually remain closed between 15 to 20 minutes, then that gate DR. KRUPASINDHU RHOI (Sam- remains closed for about 12 hours and balpur): Sir, no Railway Minister is pre- remains open for 12 hours. What are the sent here. So",c will not get justice. rules in this regard? For h ow many minutes the gates should remain closed? MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: We will There should be definite instructions in convey it. Don't worry. this regard. About maintej1ance also 1 would like to say somethll1g. Tn some SHRHvlATI JAY ANTI PATNAIK: coaches there are no light<, dnd in others \Ve want to highHght the problems of Or- fan~ are mj~sjng. Wheil asked about thi~, is')a. the maintenance people say that they do not have the material Because of the shot tage of only few Items, the coaches r... fR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please carryon. They have taken down all the are not maintained. I t should not happen. notes. What is your point. Your 'point In the absence of maintenance. the pas~ must be conveyed, that he is doing it. engers have to suff~r unnecessarily. There There are t\\-o persons so don't worry. is no direct train between Allahabad and Bhopal via Katni, Sagar and Bina. There should be a definite scheme to start a DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI : How train on that line so that the passengers will you' satisfy us? \Ve are not sati5fied nlay get the facility. I thank you that you with. \V~ are not baby and in fact we are ..• listened to my views attentively. I thmk r[ntc rruPlionJ) the House will agree wah my views and early action will be taken on my sugge~ SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: tions. Sir. I am coming to my State-Orissa. Orissa did nct have its due share in the Railway growth in the pre and post independence era. It had 0nly 1300 kms. of MR. DEPUTY -SPEAKER: Smt. railway line against the national network of Jayantl Pa~naik. Be very brief. Only 5 54.000 kms. till 1950-51 \\rhich was 2.3 per minutes. We will have to allow other mem- cent. This also was constructed just to bers to speak. connect Calcutta and tvfadras. The Bitishers \\ ouid not have constructed this SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK line ••• (CvtH~~k): Mr. peJ(ut~.S:pcuker, Sir, th~ ( Inttrruprionsi Railwa.1 Budret, MAR eH 5. 198(j 1986-87

SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: The Railways should seriously consider to Had there been any other way that to complete this line so that the Central connect Caloutta -and Madras, that did not approval for the integrated offer can be touch the intctrior of tbe State. After ind- accorded and this project can go through. ependence 648 kms. of route extension oot1ld be made uuring the period till 1979 Now, I come to Koraput-Ralpgada and 1980 which works upto 3 per cent only. Railway Line. The Railway l Minister You must also take care of the ba<:kward should see that this Railway Line is. com- areas;which are full of Scheduled Castes pleted by the end of 1987. The complete and Scheduled tribes. Their population is line is required for transpoI1ting alumina about 46 -per cent. You should also take from Demanjodi to the Smelter Plant at ~r. of the per capita income, which is Angul. below the na-tional average. I must also speak about Talcher-Sambal- 13.G8 brl. pur line. It is very disheartening that only Rs.2 crores have been provided. The idea {SHRrMATI BASA V ARAJ ESW ARI was to start this railway line from both the ;R Ihtl ChairJ. So, Sir, in order to plan out ends, Le. from SambaJpur and from Talc- the Budget, you should have taken care of her. How can you provide only Rs.2 these things because whatever works you crores, if you start the work from both the have already taken up, should not be dis- ends? This )jne is supposed to open up a coUFaged. I must say something about very backward and mineral-rich area. No Jakhpur-Banspani. The first phase of appreciable progress has been made so far, Jakhpur-Banspani has already been com- for the establishment of a railway Division pleted and only ~econd and third phases at Sambalpur. The foundation for both are left out. I must say that whatever the Talcher-SambaJpur line and the railway money has already been invested for this dlvision was laid by our Prime Minister. line should not go waste. Moreover. that Enough funds, and adequate funding in the 0fret of Hundai Corporation of South Korea Railway Budget should be mad:: for both given to the Central Governme:1t involves these things. an export 0; a'Jout ~ million t::mne5 of uon ore from the country to South Korea, which 1 would like to LeU the Railway Minis- will be a great boon for the iron-ore min- ter : the world is moving fast, and one ing industry in the country, which is now wants to move fast, from one end passing through a critical phase. Valuable to another. When we travel by air and foreign exchange can be earn!d and thous- train, we are spending the working hours of ands of people will get employment. Par- the day. Most of the working hours of adeep can also be developed in a big way. the day are spent. Especjally with regard This integrated project i neludes extension to connecting state capitals and the country's of the railway link from D;litari to Bans- capital, I must say that some coordination panj, in view of the fact that when the should be there. When we want to come whole line would be completed it would from Bhubaneswar to Delhi, even by Com- connect Paradeep with its hinterland and ing by train and then catching the plane, the distance from Para deep to. Banspani if do not lose the working hours of the would be reduced by about 332 kms. day. We should go for it. Now, Sir even if we travel by train from Bhubaneswar to MR. CHAIRMAN: Shrirnati Jayanti, D~lhi, we are losing working hours on two please conclude. days. Even if we travel by air, we lose them also. Suppose we come from Bbuban- SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK ewar to Calcutta by plane; in that case if Only two minutes, Madam. you can connect the air t-ravel also, we may -save some working hours. I 'request DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI: Five the Minister kindly to look into' these minutes. Madam. This is very interesting' things. With these words, I conclude. Let us divide ..•.•. ( InterruJltlon$) SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI (Guwabati) : salllMATI JAYANTl PAl'NAIK: M~dllJ'll <;hairtnap, aheeady'" time -Italit PIIAIAUMA 14, 1907 (SArA) 19'6-'7 bal b~en put on our speeches. I will not headway can be made towards projp"cu in 10 into the seneral aspect of the Railway this Jogighopa.Ouwahati rail-cum-road Budaet. But I will try to highlight some bridle. of tbe problems that we face in our constituency, and also in the entire north- There has been a long standina de- eastern region. mand for extending the broad aaugc lin_ upto Dibrugarh. You have included it The first thing that I want to put under gauge conversion. It appears that across to the Railway Minister is that the present estimated cost is about :&s. under the terms of the Assam Accord, it 100 crores, if I am correct. And no sum was decided that fuH relief would be gran- whatso\'er has been allotted, except a ted to those employees who were victimis- symbolic sum of Rs. 1,000. Therefore, the ed during the Assam movement. Unfortu- Railway Mi nister seems to have given up .aately, many of the employees who were this project for the time being. I wiD ura- victimized during the Assam movements upon the Minister to make adequate pro- are yet to get their relief. In fact, a very visions for it. shady type of stand has been taken by the Administration in some cases, i.e. in res- The Tinsukia Mail, which is the fastest pect of the some of the employees who Mail Train available to Gauhati, takes were victimized during the movement, it is about 44 hours; it runs completely with now beina told that they were not victimi- dilapidated coaches. Probably, in terms zed during the movement, but that they of unpunctuality, this train will be in the were retrenched, or their services were forefront of all the trains. Its caterin& terminated on other grounds. This type services are horrible. As I said~ its coaches of an approach not only frustrates an w ill get first position jf there is a vintqe Aceord which one could get out of seven rally of the railway trains. Why do you years of instability in that region~ but it treat the people of the north-eastern re- also creates lack of confidence in the gion as if they are second class passcnsers. minds of the population in the Govern- Cannot they avail of the better type of ment at large; and, therefore, I request coaches? I request you to see that the the Railway Minister to particularly call coaches are improved and we demand a for all cases concerning that period first train right upto Gauhati because you and see that the terms of the know the 1inkage of north-eastern region Accord are fuJly implemented. A ··ter- with the rest of the country is not only im- an, the President in his Presidential Addr- portant from the point of view of com- ess has given an assurance to this country munication but also from the point of view that the Accord woufd be implemented in of bridging the lack of emotional intcara- full. tion tbat we see in some of the areas where the secessionist activities are yet at large. I will urge upon the Railway Minis .. So far as the north-eastern region is ter irom the overall broad point of view concerned, have been given priority. One of national interest and also communica- is the Jogighopa-Guwahati construction of tion that the Tinsukia Mail should b. rail-cum-road bridge across the Brahma- given some priority f"or improvement. putra. It ap pears from the figures tbat you have given. that out of about Rs. 87 crores which wiII be necessary, or slightly While extending the broad-gauge line above Its. 87 crores, only Rs. 1 crore have upto Gauhati~ what has been done is that been allotted this year. In that case, it the line has been taken through Gaubati. win require 87 more years to comp1ete Now~ there are 31 railway gates in Gauhati that project. I do not know whether after and there is only one over bridge with 81 years there will be railways, or some the result that the Gauhati City has virtu- other mode of transport. I would urge ally come to a standstill; a city which is upon the Railway Minister to se e that already overcrowded, has become almost an unrealistic sum is not given to a second edition of Calcutta. Today the city bas come to a standstill. In fact' placate tbe fcelinas of these people, but ' tbat a roalistie sum is liven so that some reprCSCtltatJOftS. from the pcop). be... been 22'

. [Shrl Dinesh GoswamiJ or two more halts sbo1Jlct suffice-. Bat, We" would like to Have a Raphani' EXl'tess submitted to the Railway Minister aud type of train for tbat l'egion beeause it is also to the Prime Minister that the broad virtuaffy im poS's~ to ga from OJ1e' ,art gaYge line sbolild be tak-en outside the of the region to our part elf tile ft!Iicm &y city. The government have said that Rs. a train without substantial loss of time. 1 crore has been spent 0n the time. Bu.t For example, you can go to Calcutta considering the ecological aspect and coa- easily; you can go to other parts ~f the sidering aU other aspects, I wiU urae upon country easily. the Railway Minister to take immediate steps so that thi.s Hne is taken outside Gaubati. Otherwise, Gauhati within ~ Another denland which the people of years will be completely a dead city. Assam is making for fong al1d on whiCh an assurance was there was about the dhisional headquarters at tbe place ca}fed At the Gauhati Station which is aD important station, there is no adequate Rangia,about 30 kms. ftom Gaubati. Weft. arrangement for replacement of coaches. I do not know why our demand which Was I have personal experience. There is only conceded by the GO\lernment at one stave one second-class AC. On many occa- or over which a big agitation was there, the Railway Ministry is now sleeping. This sions, this second-class AC goes out of order, and the passengers of the second- is a place where a coach factory probably class AC bogie are put into the second.. can be established and I request the Rail- class bogies with the result that they are way Minister to look into it. put to Jut of inconvenience in spite of the fact that they have confirmed reservations. I ha\e also received representations I know that, on occasions, even the that thero should be link t. om Gauhatl t '0 second-class bogies were also taken out. Bongcugaon which will holp a large number So, there should be adequate provisions of passengers. I request the hon. Minis- fOT replacement of both air-conditioned ter to look into it. COaches and other coaches. In fact, I had the peculiar e"pericnce of the train refu- The other aspect to which I would like sing to move because the engine was to draw the attention of the Railway out of commIssion. I do not know whe- Minister is about the announcers employed ther in any other part of thIS country the by the Railwa~. I am told that they engine goes out of commission. Therefore, are paid only four or five rupees a day. something should be done about It. It can be very well appreciated that it is n~ poss ible to aet on t.hese days with Quota for passengers from G uwahati such a pittance. Thereiore, I urge upon is absolutely inadequate. 1 know Assam the Railway Minister to see that the anno- is a place where \\ e have the highest inci- uncers are paid some reasonabJe amount dence of cancer; a large number of passen- in&tead of the present rate of four to five gers come today to Vellor and they take rupees. per day. r represented this earlier ad"antage of the Trivandrum Express. to the tv1 mj~ter of State also but nothing all~ But there are only fOUT seats in the first .. has been done. After in any case, we class and 128 in the second class. I per- should not take undue advantage of the sonally inspected the register and found helplessness of some persons. We should that the waiting list of passengers comes net pay only a few rupees, which is even to hundreds. Therefore~ quota of seats less than the minimum wage to labourers. on this traIn shouJd be increased. This is a pf(~blem which the entire c'ountf'Y has to considor. If those 8lHlouneers are Af) I demanded earlier, I still request not on the permanent sta1f of the Rail- the Railway Minister to give a super fast ways., they shGuld be taken in as perma- train right from Delhi to Gauhati. There nent, staff and Biven some reasonable should be a minimum number of halts. wales. For example, one halt is at Kanpur, ano- dIst: hait is at Patila, t!binil halt. i. at L hope tho benA MmistOl' wilt lilt te look- laJpaisQri or for operational feaSQDS one into lbcse mattc!'s, and if it is Dot pos.libl,. 1!l8f.-87

I hOJ)e dlat 6 written answer win be given [En,HsJr1 fFetn ftitn as has been the praottet! in this House. SHRI V AKKOM PURUSHOTHA- MAN: But I am not satisfied with this meagre increase. Even now we require SHItI V AKKOM PURUSHOTHA- more than Rs. 20 crores to complete thIs MAN (Alleppey): I congratulate the project. The construction of this new bon. ltailway Minister for presenting a broad-gauge line from ErnakuJam to AIle- Railway Budget which has many saHent ppey was inaugurated in 1979, but the features to be appreciated e\ en though I progress of work was very slow. The have got my own complaints as for as my distance of this line from Ernakulam to State is concerned. In spite of the price Kayamkulam via Alleppey is only 100 hike in diesel oil the Government have kms. You know that the existing Erna.. refrained from increasing the fare for the .k.ulam-Tnvandrum broad-gauge single season ticket holders and for the ordinary line is fully saturated ~d the present uti- second class passengers. lisation of line capacity is of the order of 110 per cent of the chartered capacity. So, Secondly, it has to be appreciated that this Single line is not in a position to there is no rise in the tariffs on the carri- carry very heavy traJic in the section and age of goods and parcels. The Railway this results in the detention of a number Minister can be proud of increasing the 01 prestigious mail and express trains efficiency and enforcing the financial disci- running in this section. With the com- pline in the department. It has helped missioning of the broad-gauge line from him to report exceIJent financial resu1ts in Tirunelvelli to Tuticorin Harbour additio- his budget. . nal traffic is flowing Into this section. Further the Food Corporation of India is I do not want to go into the details of expanding its storage capacities in ·.arious eithor the Budget or the difficulties of the stations hke Mavelikara, Karunagapalli~ passengers due to lack of passenger ame'1i- Kazhakoottam, etc. The Kerala Minerals ties which my friends from both the sides and MetaJs Ltd. near Karunagappally and have already narrated. But I want to the Hindustan Paper Corporation near bring to the notice or the GQvernment Puarom Road will also offer substantial abollt the negligence shown to my State in traific in the next few years. To cope 110t providing sufficient funds in the Bud- up with the heavy traffic it is 'Very essen- Ft. tial to provide mOl"e funds and also to double the Eranakulam-Trivandrum line. C ODsidering this aspect, the MiDistry has· Sir, in spite of so many good features ordered survey for the doubling of the in the Budget I am extremely sorry to line from Kayamkulam to Trivandrum, the lay that due share is not giveR to my i40a being that the new lin e under cons- State. But I am thankful to you, Sir, the truction frolll ErnakuJam to KayamkuJam Jtai)way Minister, Bansi Lalj.i, for inerea- .. · vi a Alleppey will ser\le as an alternate sina the p~visi-on for broad lautte line ro.ute for Ernakulam-KaYamkulam line. kom Ernakul'am to AUoppey and then to It is essential that a substantial amount Kay,8J1kulam. Last year. t-he pro.visieD should be allotted •."0J' this line so that it was only two crGl'e8 and one thousand can be completed w.ithin the next two, fMpeeS. I Aa\le liveD Fcpresentations to theee years. ShPi Bansi Laiji, many times aftd be was ,oed enough to inc:rease tho )9fo'risiOft to .s. 4 crorcs. The State Government has also -been Pepeatedl}' requesting for a new Broad .. fTrtlffll.tit1ft] gauge lifte fEORl Trichur to Kttttipuram Via GU1'Uwayosr. Sir, you Iin0w \he im- SMal NARAYAN CROUBEY peFtaace of Gur\lvayoQr. So many people frtWD aN e'Yft the country come 10 G\Il'.U- ~idnapore) BallBi Lalji is taking "1IY0ttI' to w.orship Lord Krishna- d the tid.. and watkin. _inst our intcrests~ G"¥a7oer T ....le. A sw¥e, _, .,.0 MARCH 5, 1"' 23~

(Sbri Vakkom Purushothaman) same period is only 10 per cent. This is shown at page 5 of this ExpJanatory been done some years back, but no pro- Memorandum. So, what I want to submit vision bas been made in the Budget. is that investment in the from of Capital- at--charge is not fairly reflected in the The State Government has also been increase in the traffic plan for goods and repeatedly requesting for other broad also for passenger traffic during the same puge lines also like Chenganoor to Tri- period. That means that the work- vandrum via Pandalam, Adoor, Kottara- ing expenses of the Railways are little kara, Ayoor, Kilimannoor, Nedumangad higher and, therefore, urgent steps have and Cochin-Madura i railway line, etc. to be taken to reduce the working expens- But nothing has been ·considered. I under- es of the Railways within a short time. stand that the State Government has offe- Even in the Seventh Five Year PJan, the red electricity a\rA cheaper rate for the observations have been made in Volume- development ot'lt-ailway in KeraJa. If II, page 213, that "the system is beset that offer is accepted and electrification is with excess manpower and the manpower dODe, I am sure that the financial return development has not kept pace with on the capital investment win be more technology upgradation." Now, if we see than 20 per cent. the other documents, they will also prove this point. While protesting for the insufficient allotment for my State, I very stronaly As far as the increase in the fares in support the Railway Budget. respect of certain classes is concerned, I would like to submit that, really speakings these increases do not heJp to develop the SHRI SHARAD DIGHE (Bombay railways because most of this amount North Central): I rise to welcome the ordinarily goes to the working expenses .. Railway Budget which has been presented namely, the salaries of the employees etc. by the Transport Minister. I t is a well-known fact that the Cost of Living Index always follows the rise in the First of aU, I thank the Transport railway fares. Transport charges are also Minister for not proposing to raise amo- a part of the Cost of Living Index and, unt on monthly season tickets which therefore, raising the transport charges or would have affected the daily commuters fares, really speaking, do not give us the of Bombay. I must also congratulate additional advantage of resources for the llim for also not proposing to raise development of railways. any tariff on the carriage of goods and pare.1 of any commodity whatsoever. We mu~t "ery carful1y see the shortfalls and the profits made by different There are many good proposals but regions. There .is a large imbalance in for want of time I wouJd not go through that. If we see the losses made by the them. I win straightaway come to the Eastern and the N ortb-Eastern regions, point that the position of the Railways we will see that continuously these regions at present has to be gone through very have been making losses. At page 61 of seriously. Now the Capital-at-charge hike this Explanatory Memorandum on Railway is nearly 2S per cent. During the la~t two Budget, the shortfalls regarding Eastern years as we see at page 55 of the Explana- Railway are given. There we will see that tory Memorandum on the Railway Budget the surplus or the shortfall for the year is 1986-17. But after making this hike of 25 always minus. "That means there has been per c:ent during the Jast two years in tbe shortfal1 in all the years since 1980 till the Capital-at... charge, the increase in the Budget Estimates of 1986-87, and that Traffic Plan for goods during this whole has been very large also. SimilarJy, in period is only 11 per cent which is borne the case of North-Eastern Railway also, Qut at page 4 of this Explanatory Memo- at page 71 of the Explanatory Memoran- randum on the Railway Budget. Similarl y, dum we see that the shorttalls are nearly ,b. pas_naer traffic increase durin, the 38.2 per cent. So, in different resiODs pHAlOtJNA 14,1901 (SAXAj there are different conditions and we rakes are very old and over-aged and they should concentrate on the regions where are likely to meet with accidents and there are continuously losses so that they therefore these have to be replaced. are not run at the expense of other regions Urgent action has to be taken to replace which are doing well. As the time is very these old rakes. short, I would rt'fer .only to two or three matters regarding Bombay city. Lastly, there should be a separate zone for the Bombay suburban system. As far as Bombay city is concerned, This separate zone should be established 1 may say that 50% of the total passenger immediately. It was considered 10Da 810 traffic moves by the Bombay suburban by the National Transport Policy Com- trains. I have got certain figures which mittee. I t was considered for some time show that last year, that is, 1984-85, the and thereafter no action has been taken. Indian Railways carried 333 crores of If that proposal is ta"-en into account passengers. That comes to 90 lakhs per then the problems of Bombay can be every day. Out of this 90 lakhs passeng- successfully solved. This must be immedia- ers nearly 45 lakhs passengers travel by tely attended to. Bombay suburban trains. Therefore half of the passenger traffic is from Bombay With these words I conclude my suburban railways alone. Therefore, I speech. Thank you. would like to stress tbat much more attention should be paid in this respect. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA (VaishaJi) : Madam Chairman, even thoup In this connection, I wish to point there is a cloud of gloom due to the death out that additional pair of lines between of 33 people and Injuries to many ~ as .a Andheri and Bandra with a fly-over at railway train ploughed through a crowd Raoli junction has to be provided urgently. of people watching fireworks from the This has been asked for number of times. raaway track, I cannot IeS:st conaratulatine Now what is provided for in the Budget the hon. Railway Minister and his able is only one crore of rupees as against the colleague,. Shri Scindia, for all-round balance cost of sanctioned cost of Rs. developments recorded by the Railways. 43.72 crores. The RaiJ"ays were able to move 230 The extension of raiJway line from million tonnes in 1983-84; 236 million Mankhurd to BeJapur with bridge across tonnes in 1984-85; and during the current Thane creak is also pending for a long year, i.e. 1985-86. we are assured. on the time. 10 lakhs are provided in this Budget. basis of the performance of the past 9 I do not grudge it because the Maharashtra months, that the Railways wi)) not only Government has undertaken to incur a move 250 million tonnes of freight traffic~ Jarlc amo\lnt of tbis cost. Therefor but that they would exceed the taraet set. I would not make that point now. Now, my last point is this : Double The financial position, as judged by Discbarae Platform at VT station is also Revenue receipts, is also satisfactory, yet uraently required to meet the needs of the the fares of AC 2 tier sleeper, AC chair~ Jarae crowds in the suburban section. cars, First Class and AC First Class have been raised rather \iteeply. In the con- As far as the Bombay suburban rail- text of all-round rise in prices. this incre- ways are concerned, tb~ EM U rakes ha ve ase in passenger fares is bound to hit even become very much over-aged. This year's the so-called affluent section very hard. budaet shows that SO new coaches are I n addition, increase in surcharae proposed to be added. This is giVen at for the 2nd night by Rs. 5/- even on ordi- pale 116 of the Works, Machinery and nary 2nd Class sleeper berth will fall Rolljni Stocks prosramme. Out of these heavily on the traveJJiDg public, Dot an 30 coaches how many wjll be aJ]otted to of them can alford to pay eve'" '1- the Bombay cit)', I don~t know. The more. I would plead with the ...ilway 236

ISbrhnati Kishori Sinha] so durias day time. Second ola..,~ passenaers travelling by Itloeper CO;lc.he'i Minister to considerr reducing the percen- are sometimes assua nlted by such ta1F i9crease of fares and surcharges. unreserved passengers. The passenaers With better management and stricter holding re$ervation, q ... ite often Ipse discipline it should not be difficult for the their luggage apart frQID being incoR\lCllie- Railways to raise additional revenue. need. You have only to watch such trains as Assam Mail, and NeeJanchaJ Express to see thing for yourself. I would first take tbe case of ticketless travelling. As many as 4 Jakh passengers are caugbt every month. There has been May second suggestion to the an increase of 14.20% o\-er those arrested Railway Minister is that he should last year. J think, tbis is tbe tip of the appoint a study team to ao into the g:u.e~ ice-berg. A lot more travel without tion of shortage of passenger coaches in tickets. I would submit to the Railway order to suggest measures for optimum Minister that there is a collusion of utilisation of the existing capacity. The Railway employees in this game with the Railways are no doubt makin,g efforts result that there is a good deal of leakage at rationalisation by cutting down idling of revenue. Apart from rousing the consci- periods and better time-tabling. But ence of ticketless traveUers, the vigilance there is still scope for improving the machinery should be strengthened to keep operations. Despite speeding uu presti- a watch on such employees, which will help gious trains lik.e Forntier Mail and Kalka earI\iQ& revenue. Mail, they still take 24 hours to reach their destinations all these 20 years. Why? There is also leakage ill freight earning traffic. Loss due to pilferage entails I want to lay emphas is on the need for financial liability on Railways. There is punctuality . of trains. It is, indeed, need. for imprnvmg tbe machinery to guard very irritating. apart from causing disloca p against underweight and pilferage. COIn- tion of one's work schedule. Trains ran puterisation will be able to keep track of on time when Shri Hanumanthaiah was the wagons, and Railway Protection Force the Railway Minister. There is no reas.on should be motivated to check such why trains should be late at all and that malpractices. We can improve our re- too habituaUy, particularly the trains venue earning in this way also. coming from Patna, when the Railway Minister is no less a perSDn than Shn Bansi 1al, who is known for his drive I would now take up passenger traffice, and effectiveness. It is stated in the budget "it will be diflicult for some more time for the I am aw.are of the efforts being made Railways to create any substantial addl- < to make trains run OD time. 1 appreciate capacity for movement Of passenger tional this; still I £eel there is room fOl' im- traffic." It is perhaps due to shortage provement. Many a time trains are of .passenger coaches for which the Rail delayed due to lack of foresight and Coach Factory at Kapurtkala has been imagination in those who are in charge set up. But this factory will go .into of control. The control system needs to product~on by 1988. Till then. there be continuously updated. With progressive will _ no etfort to provide additional computerisation it should be possible to all'aaty. So, despit-e eJ'lcouraging keep watch OD various trains and regulate performaace financially, is it not a their movements so as to avoid delay ,Mty 'that Rail ways are unable to over- due to internal operational reasot;ls. come the perc~DRial problem of over- While makina the rail travel safe, it is or.owdin& ? It is likely t.o set worse. also necessary to mak.e the ttains run What w.()uld be the position ? There on time. Ours is the secoJ)d larpst would _ ~Mbinl by unrescnted llailways in the World" asd we sholJld P ....et"s into the reserv.ed compart- comp.r~ its perl'ormance with that of the ..... Thie is alr,ea4y l\a!ppcnina, IDGre Railways of other c:oun1ri". Ev.n iJl Rat"",tI" ~uJ8et t PHALGt1MI. M. 1907 (SALt) 1986-87

South Korea I found trains run almost development, we can vastly improvo tbe on dot of the time set. Why can't we working of the Railways. achieve this? Lastly, I wish to draw the attentioa I .8rtt sorry to have to say tbat in the of the Minister again to the need fer matter or aecitients, eeoora is Het satis- connecting Lalganj-V aishali-Sahabganj factory. There has been re4uction in -Kesaraia-Suganli by a rail line. I have the nutnber of aecidents due to coUisions, raised this matter several times. I would but thet number of accidents due to appeal to the R.·ailway Minister to ordor derailments and failure of equipment has a survey of this area to be able to decide ineteased over the figuFeS' of 1981-83 and abcut its importance and utility. 1983'.. 84. It has been stated in the booklet containillg a review of safety perfor- With these rema.r:ks. I welcome the matfCe of R:a ;!ways- that tJte raise in the Budget. failure of equipment incJudes permanent way which is due to the tracks being old, DR. PHULRENU GUHA (Contai) : needing reneweJ and replacement. Madam Chairman, I would like first of aft to compliment the hon. Railway Minister I am glad that the contribution to for presenting such a good railway bud- Depreciatian Reserve Fund is being get. He deserves compliment for the increased to Rs. 1250 crores in 1986-87. concession given to the youth. In the BU( I am not quite sure, if this wouJd be Budget, there is no enhancement in froisht adequate to carry out the renewal and rate and there is ne increase in the Second replacement of tracks, overaged rolling Class passenger fare. I welcome this stock signalling equipments for faster and move. safer runni'ng of trains. Our Railway is the 4th largest ill the 1 am glad to note that efforts are world and the largest in Asia. But· the being made to eliminate the human concept of mono rail or trains ronning at factor, a major cause of railway acci- a very high s('eed is still a dream. The dents by resort to greater mechanisation. Railway Reforms Committee has mado The Auxiliary Warning System wa.,_; severa1 recommendations. They are tying demvnstrated almost a decade ago. I in co-Id storage. The Government should would like to know the reasons for not examine & see how best these recommen- having introduced this on a large ~cale. dations could be implemented. Nothin& specift~ has b eeo done to provide neeess- A number of accidents have taken ary amenities to the passengers. Clean- place in the Kanpur-MughaJsarai section liness in platforms particularly in smaU which is a route interolocked block. railway stations was not being looked There is either tampering with the into. Punctuality in most of the trains mterlocking or it is not being properly had been forgotten. As you know ~ track maintained. renewals prevent accidents. There are so many accidents even very recently also. May I suggest to the hon. Minister Adequate provision should, therefore, be the need to retire the entire fleet of steam made for track renewal. I may mention locos? They are fuel inefficient. You here that I wa s a victim of the recent can save 9 million tonnes. of coa1. The accident which occurred near Liluwa in steam engines carry only 17~~ of traffic West Bengal. I am still suffering from the but account for near about 50% of ex- pain. penses. At least, you will need only a facility iew more diesel engi~es, if they are Railway should be provided in to be replaced'. The steam engines could backward areas also. Economic viabRity f~tcb Rs. 200 crores, if sold as scrap. should not be the only criterion for laying You can also thus reduce the ca])ita1"at neW Railway lines. 1 am facing· a p1eat "e1farfC' and' improve your surplus. l' problem in my constitueucy, COINai. Digh-Contai railway liM- hat DOt ,.,.... th1l1tt wit1'l tb,{ l~t~ ~e~tinol~ca1 MAk€JI 5•• '.6 1986-'7 24G

(Dr. Phulrcllu Quba] DR. PHULRENU GlJHA: That is why I said. any place in the Railway Budget this year. We were told that it was not viable. If the Wherever there are bi, railway e&tabli- calculation is made from Howrah to Digh~, shments, one major revenue source of the there will be no question of non-viability. rai lway comes from advertisement aDd It aU depends on how it is calcula ted. display of various kinds of business orga- Apart from travel of people, they have to nisations within the railway compound, carry their products, speciaJJy rice, cashew railway stations or places where commer- nuts and salt. I would like to point out cial pub licity is gaining tremendous mome- that there is no sea-shore in West ntum. There is wider scope for mobilisinl Bengal, not even in the Eastern side of resources wi thin the railway station com- India except Dlgha. Common people are pound. In big stations, very good amount fond of going to sea-shore but the of revenue can come throuab such adver- common people are deprived of the prh i- tisement. leac to enjoy sea-shore. Don't they have the right to enjoy the nature? People MR. CHAIRMAN P Jease con- have to travel with commodities and cJude. children only by bus because there is no other transport in that area. DR. PHULRENU GUHA: One or two nlinutes more. There have been three Inaugurations during 1984-85 regarding Contai-Digha If ticketles!) travel could be stopped, railway line. The first one took place it will help revenue. The over-crowding for starting the construction of railway in trains has become a problem. The line. The second inauguration was on additional fleet has not kept pace with the occasion of the opening of the Office the growing needs of the traffic. Most of of the construction of railway hne at the railway crossmgs had been constructed Contai. The third inauguration was for some 50-60 years ago. In the meantime, devc10pnlcnt of villages is taking: place rand the platform construction in Digha. Su~denJy at many places. important roads have been in Janury, 1985 the Office at Contal was constructed to link them up. closed. An announcement was made that the Contai~Digha line would not be laid. How is it possible that the promise of A survey should be undertaken and ODe Minister is not honoured by another railway crossings should be provided Minister of the Government? I would wherever they are found necessa.ry. request the RaHway M.inister to take up the project and after fimshmg aJl formali- General cleanliness is whoIJy absent in tics, start the work in 19i6~87. passen~er trains and at small stations. The condition of the toilets is very bad. I t is diffic ult to use dirty toi Ites. I t is Locomot.ives, coaches, bridges, and also very difficult to use unhygenic railway hiJ11aUinJ equipment need overhaul and compartment and wai tin rooms particu- replacement. It is really necessary to larly at small railway stations. I am not check and examine the overaged tracks talking of Rajdhani. Rajdhani IS giving and overaged rolling-stock and also to very good food. But in most of the supply equipment so tbat accidents can ~e trains, the rood is not very good. It is minimised. We must remem!'er that rail- \-ery difficult to swallow. I wouJd request way is the only traffic communication the hon. Minister earnestly to look into available for the common man from Kash- the Catering Department. mir to Kanyakumari on the one hand and Kanyakumari to Bargol ia in Assam. Let us see the position of the suburban trains. If we Jook into the condition PR.OF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Bara- of the suburban trains, fans, liahts, seats mulla): Do you think tbat thero will b. and ot ber fixtures are found either missina r~ Iway Jin. in ,Kas1unir? 9f d4unared· I b41v, SMa people travell. 241 Rai/wQY lJudzet, PHALGUNA 14, 1907 (SAKIf) 1986-87 242 inc standing upon bags full of rice. The Recently, the hone Minister of State Shri passengers have to stand with or upon the Scindia on his way to Varanasi had' stopp- loods. Daily quarrels and daily irritation ed at one of our station, Zafrabad. I was and fights take place because of this. not fortunate enough to reach there There arc a large number of casual labour otherwise I would have enumerated the who have remained as casual labour for problems there itself. Alth ough the Bud- many, many years. Many of them have get presented is definitely a very good ODe to retire either from the service or from yet no funds seem to have been allocated this world-that is that they die-as casual for East U. P. therein. Many M.P.s. labour. The result is that their families representing many districts of Uttar Pra- suffer. I request the Minister to look into desh are sitting here but excepting one these problems very sympathetical1y and train we do not have any direct train to do something for these poor people. go there. There is only one Ganga- Yamuna Express about which many Mem- Again there are hundreds of workers bers of Parliament make a mention. Whe- as railway volunteers. Please regularise ther the Member is from Azamgarh, them also. Faizabad, Ghazipur or Jaunpur, he will refer to only Ganga-Yamuna Express. ,With these few suggestions and parti- That train leaves Delhi at 9'50 and reaches cularly about the railway line in Contai- Varanasi at 4 o'clook. Madam, I want Digha, I request the hone Mil,ister to do that at least one train should leave Delhi something about it and I support the in the evening to reach Varanasi and Railway Budget. Jaunpur in the morning, Similarly, there should be a train which may start from [TrtJnsiation] there ip the evening and reach Delhi in the morning. But it is not being done. I request that this arrangement should be SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH made. (Jaunpur): Madam Chairman, I heartily we 1come the Railway Budget. The hone Minister has presented a very good In the Ganga-Yamuna Express startiD& Budget. It will definitely benefit the from Delhi there is one second class ACC people. Every section of the society will bogie which is disconnected at Lucknow benefit from it. It is a very good Budget & when the train returns from Varanasi~ and j t should be welcomed by everyone. that coach is connected at Lucknow and comes to Delhi. Madam, the hone Madam. the achievements of the Rail- Minister of State had recently directed ways are many. These are so many that that the bogie should remain connected jf I start counting them it will take a lot upto Varanasi but so far the direction has of time. For instance, take the punctua- not been carried out. I, therefore, request lity of the trains. Everywhere the trains that the bogie should definitely go upto are reaching on time. In the Indian Varanasi so that in summer there is some Railways the passenger and the goods relief to the passengers· In the absence traffic are being s.hown equal importance. of this arrangement the people of Varanasi There are many such schievernents. Many region are feeling neglected. I. therefore, steps have been taken to make booking request that the bogie should remain ~nd reservation convenient so that even in connected upto Varanasi. case of shortage the reservation may be. as far as possible, made available. Efforts 14·00 brs. to remove all difficulties are being made Sir, I may tell you that about 35 1akh in this regard. people from North India live in Bombay and when during summer they return to Madam, through you I want to draw their hometown, they are packed like the attention of the hone Minister towards sarolies in the trains coming from Bombay. some problems of my area. I want to I want that at least one new train from draw the attention of the hon. Minister Jaunpur to Bombay should be started to tbe backward East Uttar Pradesh. whicb win benefit the peopJe of Ghazipur~ Shri Kamla Prasad Singh] for drinkiua .wator shoukl be mad. at aU the railw.ay stations risht DOW. LaivatOlju Aumgarh, PratapprA, Faizabad and should be provided at the t:ailway stations Jaunpur and it will make travelling con- wb.ere tbCJse- conv.e~os a(e not availablo vonient for them. at presollt and PI'OPQl' aCl'ap~t to koep them clean should be made. In addition, almost all the platforms in Jaunpllr district are single platforms and There j.$ a openiD8 a because of this when the trains come on provision for for bath the sides of the platfo:rms the pass- dispensal'Y everyone thousand popula.. the eagcrs face difficulties & many a time there tion in country. I want that on 11te same Jines, each eN pre ss train should hew is the possibiJJty 0 ~ accidents also. I want that on those station. where two platforms a mobile dispensary. so that in the e~'cmt ape not available and there is only one of an accident or a passenger being seriously injured, medical as$istalK(e coQkl be platform, immediate provision sbould be made for constructing double platforms. pF~~ided. I want th at the bon. R.ailway Mmlster should pay attention to it also. Sir, there is a station 'Bhandari' in Jaunpur where the trains pass through a Another submission which I want to tunnel and there is always dar..kness in make is that a negligi bJe quota of reservation is available at Jaunpur in the trains that area. G oondas and anti-social elements take advantage of this and steal the such as Ganga-Jamuna, Doon Express, baggage of the passengers. Sanction for Sealdah Express, etc which pass througb construction of an overbridge there was J aunpur. This Quota is not more than 2 given some time back but to date no wotk or 4 berths in any of these trains. Due to has started on that. I would like that an this, the people of Jaunpur have to face a overb£idge should be constructed on that Jot of difficulties. I want that reservation immediately. quota from Jaunpur should be increased in all the trains.

One more submission I want to make Sir, through you, I invite the hon. that if an inter-city train between Varan- asi and Lucknow via SuJtanpur and Jaun- Minister to visit easten part of our state he pur is started. the pCQple of the area will s.o that could see for himself the posi- tIon regarding operation of trains and be much benefited. That train should start ~ther at 5'30 in the morning from Varanasi and facHities and assess the factual position. The railway services are in a mess reach Lueknow at 10'30 via Sultanpur and and there is not a single train in that area J aunpur and it should have only three which. {'ould carry the passengers speedtly stoppages, namely~ Jaunpur city, SUhan- to theIr destinati0n. Only passenger or pur and Lucknow. Thi ~ will resnlt in a big local trains run in that backward area. facility to the people of the area.

Secondly, there is no godown at Jaun- I want t hat exprc~~ trains \r.ould be run there. The hon. Minister may accom pur city raIlway station and aJi the goods remain lying in open. Complaints regard- pany me on a specified day and see the ing theft of goods are often reeehoed from sufferings of the people. That arfa is very backward. You can judge backward- there. I want that a god own should be its constructed there soon. ness from the fact that a commi ttee was set up in 1962 for tbi!l area in QJ'dcr to assess the extent of poverty and back- Apart from thi5, no lavat.ories have wardness of the region. I had also been provided at many railway stations in pointed out in the House at that time that Jaunpur district and there is no proper t~at area was so backward that the people arrangement for sca\

[Shri Aslam Sher Khan] chemical complex went to Hathras. Some experts had gone to survey the railway Mi.ister that ever since he took over, the line but did not favour it. As a result, our hopes of the sportsmen in the Railways rural areas are sufferina heavy loss. have risen and they have received a large Dumber of promotions. For this, I thank The government should emphasize the hon. Minister. better utilisation of Etah-Barhan-Tundla railway line. There is no railway line so SHRI KAILASH Y ADA V (Jalesar): far in Sadabad Assembly Constituency. Sir, I am thankful to you for giving me Mathura, Sadabad and Jalesar should be an opportunity to speak on the Railway Hnked by a railway line and it wilJ not be Budaet. I come from a constituency which more than 55-60 kilometres. The condition comprises three districts and it is a very of Tundla railway station is very bad and ltackward area. Railway facilities in that the passengers have to face great hardships. area are totally inadequate. Sir, Tundla junction lies on the Mail First of all, I would like to congratu- route but there are no arrangements for late the hon. Mirister for presenting a reservation in good trains. There is a very good Budget in the Parliament. The quota of two or three berths in the second BudKet provides a big relief to the common class of two trains viz., Janata Express and mao. The Railways have played a very Upper India. There is no provision for important role in the development of the reservation in other trains that pass country during their glorious history runn- through this junction, despite the fact that ina into 133 years. Today, the economy Tllndla junction caters to the needs of of the country depends on the Railways. three districts. I request the hon. Minister Therefore, I want that enough funds should to make provision for reservation of at be spent on the railways and that no mis- least two oc three berths in every train erliness be shown on this account. that passes through this junction. Besides, there is need for a platform at the station Sir, my constituency is Jalesar 't\'hich is and shifting of booking and reservation served by Tundla-Barhan and Etah line, counters outside the station. constructed in 1958. This line has been incurring loss during the last few years In the end, I would also request you and the railway officials want to close it. to stop the Assam Mail, Jayanti Janata This is due to the inefficiency of the rail- and Magadh express for one minute each way authorities. This will cause great at Barhan and Manikpur stations. Besides, hard ;bip to the local people I ilstead of arrangement should be made to stop closing it, this should be hauled by a "Marudhar Express" at Marara, which diesel engine. As of now, two bogies are lies on narrow gauge line, for one minute. attached to an engine and as a result of it, the train starts late by 4 to 5 hours. Con- With these wordS, I thank you once sequently, nobody wants to go by this again for giving me an opportunity to speak train. In this connection, I had also on this excellent budget. written a letter to the hon. Railway Minis- ter requesting 5 to 6 improvements in it. 14.15 hrs. First, the number of bogies should be (MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in floe chair) increased and an engine in good condition should be attached to it. Boulders should [Engllsh] be laid on the railway track and it should be provided with signalling system and SH1l1 G. L. DOGRA (Udhampur) : security arrangements. I f this line is link- Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am very grate- ed with Kasganj which is only 29 kms. ful to you for permitting me to speak. I away, it can have access to the broad want to congratuJate both the Railway puge line and will become viable. Ministers for the way they have found out the new resour;:es. They have not burdened Etah had been a sufferer on account the common man and they have not even of tbis railway line becau!. the petro- put pressure on any thin, which is beins lfailw(lY ~u4get, PHALOUNA 14, 1007 (SAKA) 1986-Ai used by the people at large. The freight the sort of planning that we are doing. rates have not been changed. It is only This is our thinking so far as vital projects the higher classes which have been asked IJke this are concerned. I wonder bow we to pay more for travelling very comfortably. are going to progress. So, I would again It is probably on the long routes where press this, through you, Sir. and through the second class passengers have to pay a the Railway Minister, I would like to Httle more but keeping in view the distance impress upon the Planning Commission to they have to cover and the amenities being reconsider the whole thing. The provision provided to them. I think, no rationally of Rs. J.5 crores made for this project is thinking person win object to it. totally insufficient. They should consider allocation of more funds. Sir, very re- I would like to draw the attention of cently prices or" certain essential commodi- .otb the Ministers to one important thing, ties have been hiked and with the raisin& The railways are building a line from of these administered prices, the provision Jammu to Udhampur. This line was of Rs. 1.5 crores for this project would in started under the orders of la te Prime real terms become Rs. 1.25 crores. They Minister, Smt. Indira Gandhi. This line should think of completing this work very was not only for the benefit of the people expeditiously. Once the project is com- livin& there but it has many political and pleted, it will go on giving returns on a military advantages. The line has ione massive scale. Moreover the Government from Pathankot to Jammu but Jammu was of India and the Planning Commission well connected by railway even earlier should work out how much resources they before partition. 1 would like to say that could raise if the project was completed in iI we are very anxious to save foreign ex- time. How much paying the Jammu- cbanae on petroleum products and 0ther Pathankot line j" ? You ha\'e got the com- components of the motor vehicles then this puter system and if you feed the figures inis the railway line which will help us to the computer correctly and properly. achieve this end. I think if the Planning You will get the correct answer and there Comm·ssion were serious about it then they will be no mistake. could not omit it. I apprehend they are working under certain pressures whereas Sir, there is a longstanding demand for the planning Commission should be above out-agency in Udhampur. Udhampur, is it. From the defence point of view this the headquarters in the Northern Com.. line is very vital. From the e:ono- mand. It has grown into a very big city. mic point of viev this line is very A lot of booki ng is needed there. . It has important. Further it opens up an become a very important place. I have area which is alm.)st cut off and also received from the hon. Minister a remote. So many millions of "jsitors go letter saying that something is being done to Kashmir, Poonch and Vaishno Devi. there. But nothing has been done so far. So, bow can they ignore it! What type of So, I would request the hon. Minister planning are they making? I question the kindly to look into this. If facilities arc very wisdom of those who are dealing with provided, people could get their goods this 5uject because the common man cannot booked to and from Udhampur. Your understand it. We must not forget that staff is there. You can do the bookin•. we are running this Government on behalf You can do the reservation. The goods of the conlmon man and if the common will have to be moved by trucks upto man is not able to understand something Jammu which probably RaiJways may net we have to explain to him properly. I like to do. The other alternative is to have know it is not the Railways which are a normal out agency as you have in many miserly so far as this railway line is con- other places in the country and your agcnt cerned. The Planning Commission has will do the needful. In this context, I not provided sufficient funds to the may submit to the House that since the Ministry. It was 5tarted many years ago hon. Minister. Shri Bansilal and the hon. and at this rate it wiJI take many more Minister of State in the Department of years to complete and I think the present Railways, Shri Madhavrao Scindia. took aeneration will not see the trains there. charge of the Railways the importance of Only the youDssters win see it and this is Railways has not been shifted to their ow. ~1

(Shri G.L. Dogra] and the service would have been extended upto Batote 0'Jl one side 'aftd -on tbe .,tlter constftuencies, whereas previously who- side right upto K,atr&-V-aisllno Dev; ad soever was made inclmrge of the Railways,) Rajouri and Poonch. I do flot know who .their oonstituencies became very important is taking these decisions now,!but whoso- so far as railway network was concerned. ever is doing so, is taking an /foe ~cisi(tns. Sir, another point is that the railway We are sorry that she is no mont with us line bet"ocn Jullundur and J.ammu should and the other people do DG't understand be doubled. There is a lot of congestion the geographical and otber importance of in tbis line and they should immedia tel v t he area. I would request both the dUnk of taking up this project. ., Ministers to look to this side. SUR.I BALW ANT SINGH RAM- OOWALIA (Sangrur) : I fully support the There is another problem. The Fron- bon. Member's suggestion for doubling the tier Mail which comes from Bombay used railway HDCs between JulJundur and Jammu. to be divided into two port ions, one portion used to go to Jammu, caned the ShiRl G. L. DOGRA: So, Sir, the Jammu Mail and the other portion used to Go.vernment should consider doubling go to Amritsar, called the Frontier mail. this line. Now: Sir, about the food that The division was done at Delhi. The is served in the trains, I may submit that people who go to Kashmir, to Vaishnodevi, we have made some arranaements where could make their reservations form Bombay ITDC is supplying the food. They supply right upto to Jammu and vice versa. OUf goed food. But they can supply food area is not industr ially developed. Many , OQly at a few places. At other places, the labourers in Bombay are from my consti- food is supplied by th~ contractors. The tuency or from the constituency of Shri Janak -Raj. They cannot make their book- food supplied by tbem IS aweful and obnoxious. They are the caterers who are i ng in Jammu for Bombay. Their book- working in the Railways. The grains and ing is upto DelhI only an 1 again tl:ey other cooking materials are supplied b)' the have to make arrangements from Delhi for Railways to those caterers. The wholesale Bombay. In the earlier arrangement, a proceeds and the profit are tak:en away by bit of shunting was involved at Delhi. It came to the mind of some officer that there the Railways and a small commiSSion IS Biven to the caterers. Tne Cooperatives of should not be that much shunting at Delhi, cate~rs give good and wholesome food and they started a fresh train from Delhi to the railways also make profit. The departme- Jammu and the people are suffering. Let ntal arrangements for supplying the fcoj are the people go to dogs, that is what the rnnning at loss. It is the .caterers coopera- railway officers thought. This must be tives, which serve well the passengers and looked into. t'ltilway .coffers, but for obvious reasons tbey are hounded out by the railway Then about the Jhelum Express. I ~. have been requesting far a balt of this train at Hiranagar, a station on the road Now, Sir, as far as railway coolies are side on Jammu-Pathankot road, but it has coueerned, my suggestion is that these coo- not been agreed to. It is very unfortunate lies ~bouJd be the local people so that the that while the officers can create a new Ullemployed may be abJe to get their Jiving halt, wher-ever they want~ whatever we say at their own place. In Jammu and Kash- that is not agreed to. W.y shou'M they mir at least. the coolie-s should be appointed rna" it a point not to accept whatever we from tbe same area. This wi)) avoid the- say? W hat type of demo.cracy is th~ ? ~t--burninl aDd frunration. The bureaucracy is so callous; I have Dot seen t hat any where else. When we make New, SO far as Udbampur line is con- any request, it is made for the convenieDce -cef'ned, tllis is a very important railway of the people. People have to .ir.\fCl lor 1ine. It W&$ st.nrted. by late Shrimati miles to get the train, but they' 00 not want -Ittdirt Gabd'bi, keeping in v~ various to allow a stop there. This is aemething ~., factGrs. If _ wete alive, this which I cannot understand. I r~ the .... 'WmIl&1 have been completed by now Railway Minister to k-iDdly see t_t. ""It PHALOUNA 14, 1907 (SAKA)

to show more consideration to Ker_Ia. is provided at Hiranagar for the lhelum Especially, the Bombay and Delhi lines Express. This is the only station on the are always congested and people are wait- road side and people from all the adjoining log for months to reser, e their scats. areas can catch thi strain. Other stations I request you to run one additional train are miles and miles away. each to Bombay and Delhi to gi\.·e the With those words, I conclude and travellers at least some relief. th6Dk you, Sir, for givinc me the time to speak. In the Transport Ministry also tbe Cochin-Madurai highway is not taken up much seriously this year. La~t year, they SHRI GEORGE JOSEPH MUNDAC- have allotted some funds. The survey of KAL (Muvattupuzha): Mr Deputy-Spea- the Cocbin-Madurai line is already over. ker, Sir, at the outset I would mention 34 Members of Parliament from South that in the matter of development of India have signed a petition for the const- Railways, Kerala State is completely ruction of a new railway line between neglected. We have got only 810 kms. of Madurai and Cochin. If South Tamilnadu railway line in Kerala. According to the po- wants to send some goods to Europe, they pulation basis we have to get 2400 kms. of have to go to the East Coast. They halv. railway line based on the all-India average. to go round Ceylon and to reach the Suez That means, we have got only one-third of Canal, the ship has to travel thousands what is due to us. I request the Minister 0: kilometres more. Because of this we aR to give more consideration and show more losing a lot in terms of energy and tim. 815 sympathy to the people of Kerala. also money. If the Cochin-Madmai rail- Ke-ala is the most thickly populated way line is completed, goods can be taken State of our country. But according to to the Seuz Canal straightway from Co- the Railways, there ts not enough poten- chin Harbour and we can sa vc a lot of energy, time and money. tial fOT railways. One of my friend ~ come from the KeraJa State and wanted me to Idukki district in Kerala is earning a get a railway ticket for the month of May, lot of foreign exchange. We are sellin& our because he was not able to get that. This cardamom, tea~ pepper and coffee and shows that there is so much of demand for we earn the maximum amount 01" foreisn railway bookings to Kerala. exchange for our country. But the De- partment of Railways is not considerinc The increase of fares has also affected Idukki district at all. A lot of Harijans people very much. There are many peopJe and hill-tribes are living in this district. So, from my State. who are working in the at least for their welfare, I request the north. They have to pay very heavily Railway Department to provide some whenever they have to undertake this long more funds. It will help the high range5 journey. I request the Railway Minister of Kerala to improve. I request once to reduce the faro to some extent on the more to allot more funds. long journ~ys undertaken by people. F or the Alleppey-Cochin railway ]ine~ Then, no electrification of railway lines Rs. 3 crores have been allotted. In th"s has been done in in KeraJa. Not even an way, it will take at least 10 to 15 years to inch of any railway line has been electri- complete the coastal line of KeraJa. Even fied. As I said, there is a lot of traffic if the Mysore Talichcri nne and the Guru- potential there. People travel while hanging vayoor-Kuttipuram line are also completed outside the trams. we will stiJI not come to the all-India Ie\'el~ So I want that at least justice should be done to Kerala. I do not want a".y are sending condemand compart- You favours. but please. do justice. ments to Kera'la. The rains are very heavy in Keral. and we have to sit in tbe comp- The Minister in charge of electrifica- arttmmts with open umbreHas. So I would tion in Kerala is already prepared to give say that the Railway Department is negle- concessional rates to the Railway Depart... ~til\l f(.tr.. I ~qa~t tlte iron. Minister men for electrifyin, the raHway lire. I\lt }tollway 8ud,et, MARCPI S. '986 1986-87

[Shri George Joseph Mundackal1 it to 16 million tonnes in the year. There the Railways are not cooperating. So I has been a significant increase of about 14 request you to electrify the K erala lines per cent. and also to double the railway lines so that the traffic becomes smooth ~nd easy Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, in the for people to travel. current financial year also, Railways ex- ceeded its target of 250 million metric I request you to allot n10re funds for tonnes goods traffic. Therefore, this year railways in KeraJa and also to take up can also be treated as a year of achieve- immediately the Cochin-Madurai railway ments. I congratulate the hon. Railway line. I request you to aHot more funds for Minister for this. It was because of their this line. This year also more than 30 towering personality that such big taraels Members of Parliament have submitted a Were achieved easily. Therefore, now the joint petition to the Railway MinIster an.d target should be fixed at 20 per cent. I to the Prime Minister to take up thIs would like to submit that in the interest of matter. So kindly do justice to Kerala. country's economic developtnent more allocation should be made in the Railway Budget. [Trall~/Qtiolll Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would like SHRI YOGESHWAR PRASAD to draw the attention of the House as also YOGESH (Chatra) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, the hon. Railway Minister to the remark Sir, I thank you. because I have at least made by Shri M 001 Chand Daga during lot an opportunity to speak. the la5t session that as there are innumerable cases of chain pulling in Uttar Pra- Tbe Railway Budget has a dIstInct desh and Bihar. the only course left was identity of its own. This is proved by the to stop all development work: there and very fact that the General Budget include~ shift it to Rajasthan. But I would li.ke to everything except the Railways. The submit thaI jJ there is frequePl( chain pull- Transport Minister, Shri Bansilal is known ing IQ trains it does not mean that there is for his competence and he is the man who no way to check it. Stopping aJJ develop- deserves credit for the achievements 01 the ment work in the~e States would do great Haryana State. So far as efficiency is con- inju~tice to them. cerned, there is no doubt that both the Transport Minister and the Minister of { ElIgli.~h] State for Railways, Shri Madhavrao Sci- ndia are dynamic and efficIent. I congra- SHRJ BALKAVI BAIRAGI (Mandsaur): tulate them for this. He was not a~ki ng for chain pulling, but leg pulling. AN. HON. MEMBER: YOli will not &et more by eulogising them. SHRI YOGESHWAR PRASAD YOGESH That was my remark also. SHRI YOGESHW AR PRASAD YOGESH You have already surrendered [ Translation] your hopes but I have not; I am sure of eetting more. That is why I say that Shri Thank you for this but kindly do not Scindia is a dynamic man. waste nly time.

The 1986-87 Railway Budget is a co- Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Patna is the mmendable Budget and J 985-86 can be Capital of Bihar and Gaya is an equally treated as a year of achievements for the important city. Gaya is a city of national Railways. The target for goods traffic was ilnportance because foreigners from far fixed at 14 mil1ion metric tonnes In the and wide come to this city and it is just 1985- 86 Budget as compared to 1984-85 50 kms. away from Patna. Only single aDd the Railways not only met this tarlet railway line connects this city to the ia the first nine months bl,lt ~Iso increased capital. Th~re has bc~n a IOPI st,.dins 251 Railway ~uJKet, PHALGUNA 14, 1907 (SAKA) 1916-17 demand for a double line but it is still the convenience of the passen8ers. J n pending. We were expecting that our . this connection, I had written one or two dynamic Railways Minister would rna ke letters to the Ministers. The railway line some provision in this Budget in this re- near Paharpur railway station is Dot pro- lard, but it has not been made. It takes 3 perly laid. It is on the main line and there to 4 hours to travel a distance of 50 kms. have been many accidents because fast But though the distance between Cal- trains pass through the station. The hon. cutta and Burdwan is only 65 Kms., there Minister was req uested to raise the level of are a iood number of trains there. Similar platform at the station, but it has not facilities should be provided here also. I been completed so far. I am sure that also want to point out to the dilapidated attention will be paid in this direction. condition of the road between Patna and Gaya. Its condition is similar to a handi- I congratulate the hon. Railway Minis- capped person. Even in the "year of the ter for a sharp decline in the accident handicapped" nothing has been done to rate. I can appreciate his Jimitations, and repair them. If the hon. Minister can Ket the way he is efficiently running the Rail- it repaired immediately it will be a proof way Department is commendable. Despite of his dynamism. all this, we shall have to formulate our schemes and programme~ i.ft consonance with the rate at which population i~ in- Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir t I would like to submit that there is need to make the creasing in the country-which at present is Railways more efficient. Hazaribagh in about two crore people every year. We Chota Nagpur Area is a living example of are adding an Australia to our country the Department's inefficiency. The Govern- every year. ment receives maximum revenue from this I am happy that RITES and IR.CO·N area but it is still nowhere on the country's which are under the administrative cont- railway map. In spite of the assurances rol of the RaHway Ministry have earned &iven by the previous Railway Mini5ters profits and sizable foreign exchange. I fl'lany decades back in this connection, not would like to suggest that the Railways even passing mention was made to it in should take more effective steps in thi s any of the Railway Budgets. This has direction to mobilise resources. created an unfortunate situation and in spite of alI efforts the goods are not being delivered. There is enormous regional im- The estimated target for goods traffic balance in Chota Nagpur area and this has during 1986-87 is expected to be 29. caused resentment among the people. For million tonnes and I express my 800d example, there is no railway line within a wishes and hope that the Railways would radius of 60 miles from Hazaribagh and be able to break all previous records in even today 40 per cent of the people in the this regard and achieve the target. area have never seen a train. I, therefore, request. the hon. Railway Minister to bring SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH this important place on the Indian railway (Mathura) . Mr. Deputy Speaker~ map urgently as has been promised time Sir. I would like wholeheartedly to sup- and again. port the Railway Budget presented in the House. At a time when the people were Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would like concerned with the rising prices and were to draw the attention of the hon. Railway apprehensive of increase in the aailway far- Miniater to another point. The Ranehi es, they & particularly the opposition were Superfast Express runs between Patna surprised with the kind of Budget presen- and Ranchi. Dhanbad which is the biggest ted by the hon. Minister. The main thinK cokin, coal producing city in the country is that the peopie have welcomed it. is a few miles away from there. If two more bogies are added to this train at The achievenlents of the Railway Gomo, it would be of Ireat convenience to Department as outlined in the Railway the paSSfJ'l&fIS tra, ellir. to t1:e (cal city, Eudtet a~e praise" orthy. I would like dc~crite :Dl!antad. AcdiCcn of t\\O rrcre tOglCS to to scn:e of them to lOU. In the RaJlchi Su~cIf'a.!t £Xrle~s y, C\l!d ted to Il.:c'tct1 facilities have teeD provided to 19',.,7

[Shri Manvendr.a Singh] the R.aHway Department and the Govern· ment will g~t mOLe reven.ues.. This work the poor passengers and student~. There should, therefore, be expedited. has been no increase in the M. S. TA fares for The Railway commuters. Minister The condition of passenger trains whe- deserves congratulations for this. So far ther they run on broad gauge lines or on as the fares of other classes, such as first narrow gauge lines is extremely unsatisfac- class or air-conditioned class or super- tory. Even in first class compartments, fast trains are concerned, the increase we find that there is no proper arrange- made in themis negligible. ment of lights. The toilets are in bad condition. While drawing your attention in Mention has been made in the Budget this respect I would like to say that the~e in regard to the conversion of lines into things should be rectified. broad gauge Jines, electrification of tracks and effecting improvement in them. I Tbe incidence of theft and pilferage would like to express my thanks for it of railway properties very high which but I would like to give some suggestions is causes great loss to the passengers as well in this regard. I had placed these sugges- as the Railways. would request that ions before the Railway consultative I strict action should be taken to check such committee also, I had suggested that in incidents. keeping with the programme of the hon. Prime Minister, the Railway department should launch a campaign for plantation I would also like to submit in regard to of trees on either side of the railway track. the reservation. I had suggested in the In reply thereto I was intimated that Consultative Committee that reservation lakhs of trees have been planted on both quota of seats should be fixed on the basis sides of the railway track. But the num- of population of a particular place. The ber of trees that have been planted is reservation quota for small stations wa~ insignificant. fixed ten years bac~ but now the population has increased ;.:,nd is causing hardshjp~ It has been ~een that people in regard to the re5crvation. I would, urinate and ease themselves in the therefore. request that the reservation open on either side of the track and when quota should be increased on the basis of the trains stop at the station the stink the population. is unbearable. It is a very wrong practice. The Railway Administra ti on should take The hon. Mjni~ler had ~aid that strong strict action to curb it. steps are being taken to curb ticketles. tra\ elJing which is causing loss of revenues It is very necessary to streamline the I would like to say that more stringent movement of passenger trains and goods steps should be taken in this regard so as trains running on narrow ga uge lines. There to minimise ticketless travelling and 10~s are a nUfl1ber of narrow gauge lines in of revel, t c to tl"e P ailways. Rajasthan as well as in Uttar Pradesh. The conditions of trains running on these The hon. Mini~tcr has referred to the lines is appalling. The condition of bogies poor state of health facilities in his of passenger trains is very bad, seats are Budget speech. I would also request that torn, the maintenance of toilet and railway special attention shouJd be paid to the stations is not proper. The work on the health servIces. renewaJ of track should be expedited so as to avoid accidents. Sir, I have been ejected from Mathura which is the birth place of Lord Krishna. Schemes for electrification of a number I had submitted earlier also that lakhs of of railway lines should be expedited so that pilgrims from all over India and foreign the problem of coal and diesel could be countries visit Mathura. But, Sir, there is solved and the capacity ot passenger trains only one train from Mathura i.c. Toofan as well as the goods trait}s could be increa- Mail for Calcutta. A survey in this regard M9. ~ e!C!~tJ;iti~QU of l~ r~i1way t{ac~, sllo\lld be couduct~d and tb~ rc:~rvatiOQ 2'1 i'HAt~uNA '4. 1907 (SAKA)

quota for Mathura snould be increased. SHRI BALWANT SINGH RAMOO .. Besides, Vrindavan is also an important WALIA: Colonel Sahib, I have a very place of pi1grimage and a reservation booth short time at my disposal. should be opened there and reservation quota should be fixed for Vrindavan also. 1 would like to ~ay to the hon. Minis.. ster that on the one hand the life is be- Since the High Court is situated in coming fast and on the other hand the Allahabad, a number of people have to go waiting time at the level crossings is in- there from Mat hura. But there is no train creasing. This waiting time should be service to reach there. I would, therefore, curtailed. At present the people have to request the hone Minister that a few wait for as much as 40 minutes at tbe bogies should be attached with the Ganga- level crossings. There may be an up train Jamuna Express or the Lucknow Express and then a down train. It takes time, for the convenien~e of passengers from This system should be streamlined. Mathura who want to go to Allahabad. In Punjab, a number of accidents ar~ Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the survey taking place at the unmanned level eros'" of the railway line from Mathura to sings due to the increase in the number of Alwar was undertaken and the former tract ors and troBeys. The number of un- Railway Minister Shri Ghani Khan Chau- manned level crossing"i is quite large. In dhury had also laid its foundation stone Punjab, almost every place is linked with but that work has not been completed. the links roads and as such some steps Therefore, I would like to press my de- should be taken in this direction. mand that provision for this work may be made in the current Budget so that the The revenue earnej due to 10 per cent work is completed as early ao;; possible. h!ke in the railway fares last y.:ar should ~ve resulted in imiJrovement in the rail- I would like to su~gest. that the metre way services, but that impro\ement is no- gauge line from Mathura to Vrindavan where to be seen. should be extended upto Agra or Hathras so that other passengers may take advantage of it.

In the end, I would like to submit that MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Then you Mathura being the birth place of Lord want new lines. Krishna, the religious sentiments of the people should be respected and my sugges- SHRI BALWANT SINGH RAMOO- tions be given due consideration. With W ALI A: Of course, this is a new these words. I support the Railway line. Budget.

SHRI BALWANT SINGH RAMOO- [TrQn~/lIt ion) WALIA (Sangrur): Mr. Deputy Speaker, I would like that the quality of food Sir, I wou Jd like to express my thanks to should be improved. The food served in the you for giving me time to speak. I shall trains, I would not say, is of low quality not take much time. Probably you will but it is not of good quality. Facility is, of not have to ring the ben a second time. course, there but if a common passenger happens to eat food in the Central Hall In the present world, Railways have here he would complain to us that we eat become an indispensable part of our fast s".ch good quality food and provide tbem life. It is, therefore, necessary to give this stuff in the trains. This will create SItch suggestions as may encourage the people to travel by rail as a matter of resentment. pleasure and not when it is a must. We should manufacture electric engines in onr own country. A lot of money 'SHRI AJAY MUSHRAN (Jabalpur) : X.iDMy rep eat it. bas to be sent out of the country for this. 263

(Shri Balwant Sinah Ramo\)walia] The family of every worker killed should be given Rs. one lakh each. It should be checked. In the Kapurthala Coach Factory and component factory at Patiala, local people are getting lesser Malerkotla has become an industrial jobs. I request that something should be town during the last 10 years. The station done in this regard. there is sman but the goods traffic is considerable. That station should be developed. There is a train from Ludhiana to Howarh. A large number of passengers travel from Ferozepur to Howrah. Some The problems of the railway emplo- arranaements should be made for them yees are increasing. An ordinary railway also. employee is facing many problems like his salary, living standard, transfer etc. You should pay attentioR to them also. I had met the hon. Railway I'vlinister in rcaard to F~rozepur-Delhi line. I and my colleaaues bad requested that at some Now I conclude. I have fulfilled my statioJls arrangements for stoppages of promise of not giving you. a chance to ring the bell. I conclude my speech with trams ~hould be made. It is very kind of him that he replied to the letter but the thanks. si uation, is still the same. We have re- civod the letter intimating about our meet- SHRI RAM NAGINA MISHRA inc but the needful is still to be done. (Salempur): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, as the time is short it will be difficult to You have allocated Rs. 10 crores for speak in detail. I will, therefore, highlight the Nangal -Talwara railway track. We some specific issues. There is a proverb welcome it but that should be increased that 'Every house is lighted but my house further. In this Budget much attention is in darkness. ~ . has not been paid to Punjab, whereas the Railways earn a lot of revenue on account I commend the Railway Budget pre- of transportation of foodgrains from sented by the hon. Minister. I regret one Punjab and Haryana. thing that the construction of the broad gauge line from Varanasi is being kept in With the formulation of the National abeyance. When I saw the figures I was Transport Policy, the Railways win have surprised that the cost has been estimated to put in hard work because of the increa- at Rs. 53,73,00,000. In 1985-86 Rs. sed competition. N ow a days \J{e are 11,6f,OO,OOO have already been spent. In seeing that truck drivers are being murde- 1986-87 a token amount of Rs. 1 crore will red and goods in the trucks are being loo- be spent a nd nothing has been said as to ted. A few days back four truck drivers when the remaining Rs. 4],13,00.000 will came to me and told me that drivers and be spent. conductors are being murdered. You should make arrangements for their pro- 15.00 hrs. tection. Construction of the line from Varanasi was started 3 10 4 years ago. Other lines Shri Bansi Lal is aware that the gates have been completed. Why is it not beinl at Kot-Kapura crossing, from where 7 constructed? Why is it being neglected train! pass, remain closed most of the time. so much? I would like to know the rea- You should arrange for an overbridge son from the hon. Minister. The hon. there. The crossing remains closed for 6 Minister of State himself belongs to hours in a day. Therefore, construction of Varanasi. He has been there and has an overbridge a1 that place is necessary. seen the progress. I think the people must have gathered there and asked him In Punjab, in the bus accident that why work is not being done in Varanasi? took place at Tarn TaraD, workers partia I would like to know that when it bas been cipating in the Akali agitation, were killed. decided that this line is to be cons- for them more funds should be provided. tructed, why after spendinl so much PHALGUNA 14, 1907 (SArA) 1986·17 266 amount, it is not being constructed; why it the construction of these two lines the i~ beiDI prolonged? If it can be construc- reign of the Jungle Party in that area will ted get it constructed and if it is not possi- come to an end. At present the writ of ble then the same should be spelt out in the Jungle Party and not of the Congress clear words. Recently, when I went there, Party runs there. In an area of 30 to 40 the public asked me whether the broad kms. around Narayani, it is the Jungle gauge line would not be construcfed? I Party which reigns supreme. (lnterrllptitlns) told them that it would be constructed. appeal to you once again that I ]n addition. there are three or four kindly get the Varanasi-Bhatni line more issue'>. You may listen to them constructed without further delay. also. These problems existed three or four years earlier and during Shri Kedar I have seen one thing more in these Pande's tenure or even. earlier. Just documents which reveals grave negligenc:e. now our friend has referred to Mathura. In 1974 Shrimati Indira Gandhi had laid It is a fact that Mathura, Varanasi and the foundation stone of Bagaha-Chhitauni Ayodhaya are the cities of the country liDC and Rs. 3 crores have already been which are revered by everyone. The spellt on it but now for that work, provi- Railways should develop those areas but sion of Rs. 1,000 only has been made. in addition to this, jf you have a Jook at Even if this amount of one thousand ru- Kushinagar, you will find that it is the pees had not been provided, what would most famous eity of the world. People have happened? In this way neither are from abroad visit the city. Three or four you kiHing us nor letting us Ii\'e. You year'i back a railway line between Deoria should either make it c1e:u that this line and Chhitauni was sanctioned, its survey will not be constructed or if it is to be has also been done and Rs. 15 crores constructed, arrange for the funds and get were allocated for this job but after that it constructed. But you are giving an in- no activity could be seen in this regard. jection which is neither keeping us alive I do not know what happened to that nor killing. Foundation stone for Bagaba sanctioned railway line. line was laid by the former Prime Minister Sbrimati Indira Gandhi. Will not the 15.04 hrs Railways fulfil the promise made by her? [SHRI V AKKOM PURUSHOTHA- MAN in the chair] For one thing I \\ould definitely thank the bon. Minister. People have been People there will ask us that the Rail- demanding an overbridge in Deoria for way Budget has been presented and you quite a long time. Rs. 10 lakhs have assured us that the railway lines between been sanctioned for that for the firsl year. Deoria and Kushinagar and Bagaha- This is a good act of the hon. Mi nister. Chhitauni would be constructed, what I would request that he should get this happened to them? I want to know from work completed at the ea rliest. you what reply should I give to them. Should I tell them a lie, I do not under- But the other two ,vorks which I have stand. Therefore, I want a categorical mentioned are very important. Members answer from you whether the railway line of Parliament coming from Bhatni or the will be constructed or not. MPs from East U.P. have been demanding that there should be a broadgauge line Besides, the distance between Bilthra from Bhatni to Varanasi, and Bagaha- Road and BaHia is only 65 kilometres. It Chhitauni line should also be constructed. was given in writing that this line would These are the two very important works. be included in the next Budget, but it :finds With the construction of these two lines. no mention at all in the Budget. When the traffic between Bihar and Uttar Pra- you are constructing a network of railway desh wjU become very smooth. Connec- lines in the country, I want humbly to tion between Bihar and Uttar Pradesh has request you not to ignore Gorakhpur and been severed because of Narayani. With Deoria-the eastern part of our State aDd MA1lCH ~J t,Afi [Shri Ram Nagina Mishra] Now I want to draw your attention to my constituency. Five to Six bon. Mem- deny the benefits to the people of that bers have given in writing about tbe stopp- area. I want to tell you something about age of 103 Up & 104 Down train at Mad- the maintenance in the Railways. Enqui- hupur. It must have a stoppage there. I as ries about a damaged railway level crossing well as the other Members of Parliament revealed that it was done by the Railway have received a reply that no express train Police. Therefore, attention to this should will be given any further stoppage. After also be given. this reply, the train was given a stoppage. at chittaranjan. This was done only for You might have read in the newspa- the convenience of the General Manager pers that the Railways were going to ap- of Chittranjan Railway Workshop for his point new agents for reservation. I do 'visits to Calcutta and Delhi, although it is not understand what purpose the agents only 10-15 minutes drive from Chittaranjan will serve. As of now, a passenger has to to Assansol. How was it allowed '1 No pay to the agent, to the railway employees action was taken on the request of the and a host of others to get a ticket. This Members of Parliament stating that the reservation system is faulty and, there- express trains wo u1d not be al10wed any fore, it needs to be corrected and reserva- further stoppages but a stoppage was pro- tion agents should be done away with. vided on the request of a bureaucrat. Now \\

SHRI SARFARAZ AHMAD (Giridih): One of the demands of the people of Mr. Chairman, Sir, I rise to support the Giridih was that a 3 tier bogie should Railway Budget presented by the Govern- be attached to the train running between ment. This Budget has given relief especi- Giridih and Patna, but in spite of our really to the youth and the second class pas- peated requests, no action has so f"ar been sengers. A care has been taken to provide taken thereon. Another demand of the concession to the student commuters. At people of Giridih was that the time of de- the same time, I want to draw your atten- parture of Patliputra Express from Patna tion to the backward States of Uttar Pra- should be changed, because the train for desh and Bihar. The people of Chota Giridih has Its connection at Madbupur Nagpor and Sentbal Pargana in Bibar~ only for 3-4 minutes, and that train which are tribal and backward areas have more often than not runs late by 1 to not yet seen a railway line. 1 1/2 hours, as a resu1t of which Giridih bound passengers have to wait at Madhu- The share which that area should have pur throughout the night. You have pro- got in the Budget has not been given. I vided doublo facility to the people of am distressed to say this. The condition Dhanbad. The first is PatJiputra Express of the people of Senthal Pargana and and the other is Ganga-Damodar Express Chota Nagpur-which have large reserves which leave Patna for Dhanbad at night. of minerals and fetch maximum revenue What I mean to say is that those who for the Central Government-is pitiable. already have facility are being given more There was a proposal to construct a rail- facilities. They have got both suburban way line from Dumka to Ranchi via train as well as Metro railway, but you are Madhupur, Giridih, Hazaribagh and Kode- not concerned about the people of back- rm&. Ranchi and Chota Nagpur are dis- ward areas who have not even seen a train. trict headquarters. A survey had been conducted for that but there is no mention Another point which I want to raise is oflbe same in this Budget. I request the that the railway line between Mughalsarai heln. Minister to pay attention to this and Asansol yitl Patoa is not eJectrl.fiell. line. This should be electrified without further delay. 269 PHALOUNA 14, 1901 (SAkA) 270

With these words, I thank you fo( giv- thing tf) be done is to lay the railway ing me an opportunity to speak, although track which is not going to be a very cos- the time a llottcd to me was very little to tly proposition. accommod.ate all my points. With these words, I conclude. The Railways have comrnhteg a big mistake by not laying a railway line from SHRI BAPULAL MALVIYA (Shaja- Dewas to Bhakshi-a distance of anly 35 pur): Hon. chairman, Sir, I heartily sup- kms. I had requested the hon. Minister of port the Railway Budget, 1986-87 presen- st~te that this line should be restored by ted by the bon. Railway Minister in the laying a railway track there. This is a House. \'ery small thing. The people of that area will greatly benefit from it. Today, we see In fact, the Railway Budget has been that the peopJe going to Bhopal and Shaja- presented with the social angle in view. pur have to go via Ujjam and thus they We find that no fare increase has been also have to pay doubk the fare. I proposed for the people belonging to the request the hon. Minisier to restore this middle and lower category and the hon. railway line and solve the problem of the Minister has prepared the Budget very in- people of that area. teJligently. The Budget is also in conformity with the basic policies of the Congress Secondly, we also want Dewas to be Party. I believe that this Budget will linked with Sehore via Sonkatch, Ashta. bring enormous benefits to the country. This will provide a direct link from Indore We see that the progress achieved by the to Bhopal. Railways from the First Five Year flan to the Sixth Five Year Plan is really commendable and I anl sure the Railways wiJJ There is a level cro~~jng at Bhakshi make further strides during the Seventh which falls in my constituency, This is a Five Year Plan. National Highway. I request the hon. Minister to get an overbridge constructed Mr. Chairman, Sir, a number of letters there. Secondly, there is a railway cros- were written to the hon. Minister of Rail- sing on Dewas-Ujjain road also. I request ways in the past about my constituency. the hon. Minister that overbridges on both A memorandum wa~ submitted for the these crossings may kindly be constructed. construction of a railway line from Kota to Harda via Soyat, Susner, Agar, Berchha, Sonkatch, Kannad and Khategaou. This Sir~ I had written to the hon. Minister is a very backward area and it h linked that there is a big market nanled Shajaput" by a railway line, the area wou!d certainly in our area. Malwa Superfast Train develop paving way for setting lip of in- should be given a stoppage there. This dustries. This will also lead to increase train has a stoppage of 80 minutes at in agricultural production. Bhopal \\ hich is quite excessive. This train should be given oce minute stoppage at Sujatpur also. Sir, earlier, there was a narrow gauge line from Agra to Ujjain which falls in my constituency. I am distressed to say that Sir, four bogies of Malwa Superfast this line bas since been dismantled and no T rain originating from Delhi are deta- trace thereof has been left. In this con- ched at Bhopal. These bogies nection, I had made a request to the should go upto Indore. As a result of hon. Minister of S tate in the Department detachment of these bogies, the rush in of Railways, that this should be examined other bogies increases tremendously. This and a metre gauge line should be laid there should also be given attention to. as the .sarI)C .has been there from the time of princely state of Gwalior. I again re- The work in the railway factory under Qij4St the hoD. Minister to consider laying construction in Bhopa 1 should be exped.i... of a p;le~e a4iugc line t~rt:. The Railway ted. StatiQIl' (\.f~ ~l:{eQ.4f tb4r~ ~Jld the onl)' 211 ltailway Blldget. MARCH 5, 1986 1916-87 212

(Ellllish) is called a fairJy good industrialised country and we are producing many things in SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY (Mid- industry and most of these things are naporc): Mr. Chairman, Sir, the Rail- being carried by road traffic at tile cost way Minister has tried to pat on the back of rail traffic. of the Indian people by stating tbat there has been no such hike in the railway fare I give you figures. In 1981-82, we as the people had apprehended. Actually, carried "other commodities" to the tune the fact is that there have been changes. of 29.25 million tonnes, that is, 13.23%. in the draft railway budget and the railway But in 1984-85. it was only 10.13% and the officers have made certain changes in the total is 23.95 million tonnes~ Ploase take plan and draft budget, thanks not to the note of this. If we can carry more traffic Railway Minister but to the great people of "other commodities" (Interruptions) of India who have been registering their then we can save much diesel oi). To protest against the price hike and launch- carry goods by rail costs 1/6 of the cost a continuous movement throughout the if we carry goods by road. This should month of February by way of Bharat be looked into. Bandh etc., Which you know. Even, Sir, the Railway Minister has been able to MR. CHAIRMAN : Don't you have earn Rs.76 crares. He bas been kind anythi ng to say about your Constituency? enough to raise the faro of I I class EXl1re~s Please come to that. You have got limited and M ail passengers who will be traveJling time. up to 250 KM and that too by 7.5~6. This is also not fair- The Railway Mini!',- SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY ; This ter, in the name of National Transport Budget is something like a war on West Pohcy wants passengers, up to 250 KM, to Bengal. We have been denied all thinBs. travel either in buses like cattle or in What was agreed upon in regard to Digha- passenger coaches which have no fan, no Tamlok railwy is denied. Namkhana light and no amenity. I do not think Bridge is denied. The double line from this is socialism. It may be Rajiv Gandhi Barasat-Bongaigaon is the most conaested socialism. But it is not socialism. area and it is denied.

The Railway Minister said that actua lIy some improvement has been made in the I hope that the hon. Minister will look matter of carrying of goods. Railway to it. There is a Government of Leftist carried 250 million tonnes of freight or forces in West Bengal. Let hiln make a something more. The Sixth Plan target war on it if he so likes, politically. But was 309 million tonnes and we have car- in the name 01 fighting the Left Front ried only 250 million tonnes in the second Government, don't start war on the peo- year of the Seventh Plan and we have got ple I)f Bengal. 62,000 KM of railway track. We carried only 250 million tonnes. But China, with We are finding a craze for conlputers. only '52,000 KM has carried 1,200 million In the next five years, we are goina to tonnes. This should be taken note of. bring computers to the tune of 520 crores He is no more a Railway Minister. He of rupees. I do not think it is us.ful. is a Transport Minister. He has to plan You have said in your own books that the entire transport of India, not only of our wagon productivity is better than railways. 70% of transport should be car- France. USA, Germany and Italy. The ried by the railways. This is the accepted wagon kilometer per wagon day in France policy of the National Transport Com- is 46.2, USA 63.2, Germany 47.6, Itlay mtSSJon. But actually, of course, we have 39.7 and India 90.8. It is useless to bring carried something more in bulk commodi- computers these days. We have aot enou- ties. It was something like 191.95 million gh man-power. Computers would Dot tonnes in 1981-82 and 1984-85 , it has gone increase productivity. Rather, producti- up to 212.48 million tonnes. It is quite vity in railways can l;e increased if we can titlC and acod. What \\c are missina is a bring the prc(orti( n cf c8TTyinJ aoeds by Seetien caBed" other cCtr'lTQditi(s," India the· HlH" ays to 7(,%. If we can incnasc 27] RtJlltM7 Budget, PHALGUNA 14. 1981(SLfKA) 19..,.,

OUl" capacity to carry other goods from Thea in the South Eastern Ra~lway no 10.11% as we carry now and most of bed-roll is being supplied. which is -cauied by the road trame, our prod..ctivity will definitely increase. You Then, Sir, we have just received a knew lD.OI'e road transport means using telegram from Pandua in As~am. Thete J mOl"e ciesel. If we can bring tbat down you hav-e started eviction of such persons' and if we can laad more by rail, it will be who have been staying on the raHway much more useful to us than by your land. Previously you tried to eYict the-" brinBing computers. people. We represented and you said that you ~jll evict them only When you can When you are bringing computers, we make arrangements for their rehabilitatiolt. require small computers to know what is Similarly, in Calcutta in regard to the tbe traffic carried by the roadways so that circular railway Mr. Ghani Khan Chou.. the railways can make efforts to carry dhary had proposed to our Chief Minister more traffic. that 50010 of the cost of tho ~habilitatioD programme of the people occupying tbe Another thing I would like to submit railway land will be brone by the Railways is that there is a craze for importing fore .. and the other 50010 should be bbr:l1e by ign things. We are importing foreign West Bengal Government. I request yoo rakes. We are importing foreign locos in to consider this. You are now goinacbaek the name of proto-types. If you are re.. on the promise of Mr. Ghani Khan Chou- quired to import proto-types rakes or dhary. I would like to request yO'u to locos, you import 2 or 3 or 4 in number. think on it. Then our people can take the know-how On 26.2.86 there was a Bhuat bandD. from them. But for everything you are In Bezwada on railwayman in the DRMs8 bringing them in bulk. I do not think this office could go for duty including the will serve our national interest. I think officers. But whereas you have taken no you should look into it. action on the officers, you are taking action against the ordinary railwayman. Then about safety measures, you have stated in your own statement that failures Regarding quarter8 for railwaymen you in 1982-83 had been 13,346. It is 14030 in ha ve stated that 37% of the railwaym_ 1984-85. Failure due to permanent railway have got quarters. So 63% of tho railwa:J- t:r:ack-it was 2787 in 1982-83 and in 1984-85 men have no quarters. These quarters arc it was 4091. It is terrible. So track rene- also not suitable. . .. wals and changing of sleepers are very much needed which we are doing but you MR. CHAIRMAN : These are minor are doing it through contractors. Pre- things. viously these things were done by the departmental labour force. Now you are SHRINARAYAN CHOUBEY: No using the contractors. If these things Sir. they arc very important things. aro done by the Department itself, it can 10,71,000 railway men should be given be done better. quarters. You are constructing 20,000 quarters in 5 years. That means 4000 With regard to Bharagpur workshop, 'Quarters a year. If you go at this pace, your target was 2 POH per month. But you will take 268 years for givina quart,,:ts you know for the last 18 months there has to all the railwaymen. Kindly see to it. boeu only one loco POH per month. It is b~use of rivalry between the machanical Last point. You have made accord in depart mont and the electrical department. Punjab. You have made accord in Assant. We are happy about it. We request you CQming to passenger amenities every- to make accord with the railwayman. body has stated and I also wish to join Don't remove them from ser,icc. All t_, them that the food supplied in the trains railwaymen removed tfrom seJ'~ice should isl n.Qt lood. Even in the Raj4hani Express be .taken back. It is inhumg, MM.,· w.o do ~ot set sood fOQQ, ,ccQt'd witll the Iailwaymen aJ&o. 21' MA'l.CH 5. 1.16 lt86-17

SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- the Minister in the various sectors of CHANDRAN (Cannanore) : Sir, the Railways activities. The Indian Railways, Railway "Budget presented by the Honou- we all know, is the largest single manage- rable Minister for Transport for the year ment undertaking in Asia. It provides 1986-87 is no doubt a soft-one. It is heart... maximum employment opportunities to ening to note that the majority of the millions of people in this country. Here, ordinary passengers are not affected by I would like to make a suggestion. Sir, this Railway Budget. This budget is all the now a-days we know that most of the more praiseworthy since it aims at high construction work is being done by the profit with maximum inconvenience to the private agencies and private contractors. travelling public. Although this year there It is my humble suggestion that here- was unprecedented hike in the prices of after there must be a separate construction petroleum products, the Honourable Rail- wing attached to the Ministry of Trans.. way Minister was kind enough not to port so that it can generate more em.. increase the freight charges as well as the ployment opportunities to thousands of parcel charges. youngesters throughout the length and breadth of this country. Our Honourable Railway Minister is an excellent example of the old saying MR, CHAIRMAN: Please come to "appearances are deceptive". He may your own State. appear a little tough but his inner self is reflected in the soft budget. The increase SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- in the fares of long distance trains is not CHANDRAN: Yes,_ Sir, I will come to surprising and it has not evoked any pro- my State. A study of the kilometerage test or any sort of objection from the tra- goes to show that an average 1 lakh velling public. people have got an average of 10 km5. of Railway line in our country. But this proportion does not hold good to With regard to the fares of the long my State, that is, Kerala. There, the dis- distance trains, the peopJe from Kerala tance of Railway track is only 916 kms. are the worst affected sectIon because and this is much below the national geographically Kerala is situated in the average. We have got only 4 kms. of Southern-most part of our country. We railways line for one lakh of population. will have to travel a long distance to It is disappointibg that the State of reach the Northern-part of India. Even to Kerala is ignored by the J ndian Railways those people travelling from Kerala, this this time also. Last time while I was increase is not irksome as this comparati- making my maiden speech on the floor vely small increase IS intended to fetch a of the House. I had referred to this high revenue thereby earning a profit of aspect. Here also I want to make ment- Rs. 69 crores. It is certaInly wise on the tion about this. During the year 1984-85, part of the Mipister not to increase freight the allocation made to the State of Kerala and parcel charges as it would definitely was Rs. 9.71 crores. In 198:-36 it was re5ult in inflation. ..reduced to Rs. 6.36 crores. For this year, it is most unfortunate, only Rs. 5.24 Before tc.e information of this Budget, crores have been allotted to our State. the prophets of doom have predicated that There is a saying in Malayalam: "Only there will be unprecedented inflation. But H a crying child will get milk • Is it appli- after the introduction of the Budget, it cable to our State? I want to know from came as a rude shock to those prophets the hone Minister for how long are we of doom and I cong.ratulate the Honou- expected to cry aloud in order to get rable Minister in his effort to resist infla- our due share. The Malabar area of tionary rate in our country. Kerala is the most neglected part so far Sir, the efficiency of Indian Railways as Indian Railways are concerned. You during the year 1985-86 is no doubt superb. cannot see Malabar area in the develop- It was attained due to the concerted action ment map of our country. The Malabar Oll the part of the employees as well as area consists of six major districts and the sttict An"nci.l di.cipHa. .dopted by nearly half tbe population of ltcrala is Railway Judget, PHALot1NA 14, 1901 (SAKA) 1986-B7 27A living in this part of our country. There young colleague, Shri Madhavrao ~cilldia, are moro then a dozen level-crossings to Tellicherry from where I haiJ. 27 starting from Kuttipuram to Mangalore. valuable lives have been lost in that It is my humble submission that, after accident. With the consent of the hon. independence, no new railway overbridge Prime Minister, our Railway Minister has been constructed by the Indian has made an ex-gratia payment of Rs. Railways on the national highway. 3,000 to the families of each of the deceased. Here I want to make a submission. Another important thing I would like This amount is very meagre and it should to suggest is this. the Mangalore-Madras be raised. There is no question of enter- line is one of the oldest railway lines in ing into a logical argument here. I am our country. From Shoranur to Manga- on the point of ethics. The amount should lore there has been no development on the be raised. I had written to the hon. Prime track. The time taken between Mangalore Minister about this tragic accident and he and Shoranur is quite long, and this time has replied to me 1ast night as follows :- cannot be reduced because there is no double track in this area. "The train accident at Tellicherry was indeed a tragic one. We are MR. CHAIRMAN : Please try to donig what we can to help the conclude. relati\es of the deceased." SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMACH- make a request to the hOl1. Minister ANDRAN : Two more important things, I that at least one member of the family of I went to mention. The State of Kerala the deceased must be employment is having power In abundance. Our given State Government has offered to the on compassionate grounds in the Rail- ways. Central Go\'ernment that they are prepared to give electricity at subs idised rate if electric trains are introduced in Kerala. In conclusion, I strongly support the But this has only fallen on their deaf Railway Budget presented by our respec- ears. ted Minister of Transport, Shri Bansi Another Important thing is laying of Lal, and I wish success to him and to his a new railway line from Kuttipuram to young colleague, Shri Madhavrao Scindia, Guruvayur to whi ch many of my colle- in making the Railways most profitable agues have already referred. and effective in our country.

Another important request It want to [Translation] make is with regard to the Tellicherry- Mysore line. In 1901 the first survey was SHRI JANAK RAJ GUPTA (Jammu); conducted by the Britishers. In 1914-1918 Mr. Chairman, Sir, the hon. Railway MIni" another survey was conducted. During ster is a man of few words but his action the Second World War also, a third survey and implementation is always speedy and was conducted by the same Britishers effective. and they came to the conclusion that it was profitable and economically viable. After going through the Budget-which But nothing has been done by our Govern- is a people's Budget-one can easily make ment after independence. out that he is an efficient administrator, poor man's friend and has an intense will Late Shri Lal Bahadur Shastri was fully to serve the peop1e. convinced of the necessity of having such a line. It is true that the trains are punctual now and the facilities have also increased Sir, I come from the place where the but still there is need for more improve- tragic railway accident took place ments in tbis regard. I congratulate the recently. I am happy that the hon. and hon. Minister because the Railways bave respected Minister of Transport, Shri earned considerable profit and it bas takeD }lanai Lal, was very prompt in taking lood care of the people as weU a-s it• ...io. in that connection. He sent his staif. (Shri Janak Raj Gupta] coach factory either in Rajouri or Poonch. I would like to give a few suggestions to the hone Railway Minister. You may Besides, there are no reservation facili. ~ aware that I have been elected from ties in Bhaderwah, Poonch or Rajomi and Jammu and Kashmir which is a backward therefore, I urge the Government to open state. Tourism and pilgrims to the reservation offices at district hcadquarterst Vaishno Devi Shrine are the mainstay of to enable the people to get reservations. the' state9 s economy. I have repeated many times and I would like to repeat I would submit one more suggestion. once again, that there is no train from When the train used to terminate at Pathan- Jammu to Delhi and back which runs kot, an agency 'Radhakrishall & Co. used d\ll'ina daytime for the con"enience of to transport goods from the rail head to people visiting Vaisbno Devi Shrine. As every nook and corner of the state. You a result the passengers have to make a know that our state is spread over a wide long wait. A fast train should, therefore, area and,' therefore, suggest that such an be introduced for the convenience of the agency should be provided there which people so that more and more passengers can transport goods to Kashmir or Ladakh travel on this route. from the present rail head-Jammu.

Secondly, the Railways used to grant SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR SINGH hill station concessions to those desirous (Azamgarh): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I ex- of visjting hill stations but this was stopped press my deep gratitude for the opportu- sometime back. I would, therefore, re- nity given to me to participate in the dis- quest that the system be revised so as to cussion on the Railway Budget. The hone attract more tourists to the state. This Railway Minister has presented a Budget would benefit Himachal Pradesh, Jammu which Dot only provides relief to the gene- and K~shmir and other hill stations. ral public but also resolves to bring in more efficiency in the worki ng of the Rail- The 2S per cent student concession way de partment. Be it the question of granted to the youth in the age group of introducing computerized reservation sys- 13 to 33 years is a welcome step_ But a tem or higher production of goods wagons, restriction has been imposed that this con- passenger coaches, diesel and electric en- cession is available only for a journey gines or a proposal for electrification of exceeding more than 1000 kilometres. This railway line, or construction of double would not benefit many people. For tr~ck between Delhi-Kanpur and Delhi- instance, if some youngmen wish to tr~ vel Agra, or the question of giving more faci- to Kashmir from Delhi or vice versa they lities to railwaymen like houses or hospi- cannot avail of this concession because tals or a resolve to maintain ecological of the limit of 1000 kms. this condition is balance through afforestation-all these fulfilled for a journey from Kashmir to things which are envisaged in the Budget U.P. or Bihar. In this connection my are welcome. I congratulate the hone suggestion is that the limit for concession Minister for extending the student conces- should not exceed 300 kms. Any young sion of 25 per cent which was introduced man who travels 300 kms. and beyond in 1985-86 to this year as wen in a bid to should be granted this concession. encourage youth to travel throughout the country and strengthen its unity and cultural heritage. The hone Minister deserVes T.he Poonch... Rajouri area in my cons- to be congratulated for presenting such a tituency extends to 200 kms. along the balanced Budget within the limited resour- border and it is a hill area and the people ces at his disposal. arc hard working. I would request the bon. Ministet to pay attention in this direction.. It i.s fine that a coach factory has Now; I would draw your attention to *D set up in KapurthaIa, Punjab, but my constituency. The eastern part of dleap labour, wood and other facilities are Uttar Pradesh is a very backward area. avaitaPlo in OllI area as well and, therefore, The people are not able to rise above back.. Mteation sbo\lld be paid to set up a new wardness. There is DO doubt that the 1986-87

Railways are the backbone of any area. It from Varanasi to Delhi and b'"ack for the aecelerates development. It was in convenience of passengers. Azamgarh, BaHia, Ghazipur and other parts of eastern Uttar Pradesh that the With these words, I conclude and freedom struggle took roots. But in spite support the Railway Budget. of this the Railways have not been able to mobilise resources to provide more facilities for the development of the area. SHRI R .. S. KHIRHAR (Sitamarhi)! Chairman, Sir, rise to support The hon. Prime Minister wishes to take Mr. I the Budget presented by the Government. the country to the 21st century. The Certainly it is a praiseworthy Budget. people of this area have shed their blood Special attention has been paid particularly for the freedom of the country and it was towards the youth of the country and this area where the c1arioncall for freedom people with low income. The hon. Minister struggle was first given. No attention is being paid to construct a broad gauge deserve thanks for it. But regarding tbe question of concession to the youth, which line in the area, whether it is Azamgarh, BaUia or Ghazipur. That is why the has been raised by Shri Gupta also, I people of this area have not seen a diesel would like to say that there is need to or electric engine so far. Before, we press reduce the limit 01 one thousand kilo- for a diesel engine or electric engine we metres, otherwise majority of our youths should have a railway line, but it is not the- would be deprived of this concession. The re. We do not even have a broad gauge line hon. Railway Minister should look into the matter. at the district headquarter. There are no

means of communication in I that area. I would like to remind you that the area has In spite of these facilities and claim to been surveyed many times. There is a progress made in the Budget, the back- broad gauge line between Lucknow and ward areas have been neglected. I am Shahganj but between Shahganj and BaHia specifically referring to the northern border via Azamgarh there is no broad gauge of Bihar which is situated on the India- line. I have raised this matter many N epal border. I have been elected from times verbally 'as Vvell as in writing but the Sitamarhi which is the birth place of Sitaji stock reply is that in the absence of reso- and the cradle of the culture of India. urces it is not possible. On the "one hand Pilgrims from every part of the world visit we get this reply while on the other hand Sitamarhi which is a centre of pilgrimage. more attention is paid to developed areas. But I regret to say that it takes 24 hours Should not those areas be deyeloped to reach Sitamarhi from. Patna, which is which have contributed to the country's the capital of Bihar, an"d 12 hours from unity and integrity and to the freedom of M uzaffarpur when the distance from the country. It is a big question mark for Muzaffarpur to Sitamarhi is 33 miles. This us. I, therefore, request the hon. Minis- matter was raised earlier also and a ter to pay immediate attention to it. feasibility study of a railway line from Sitamarhi to Muzaffarpur was made durin. I want to make a submission regarding the tennure of Shri Lalit Babu when he Varanasi-Bhatin line. The work on this was the Railway Minister. But this railway railway line is going on for the past seve- line could not be laid due to certain ral years. What happens is that some reasons~ Nobody has considered this work is done and then it is stopped for matter. When "tbis matter was raised at a some reasons. The hon. Minister has allo- meeting with the hon. Transport Minister, cated Rs. 1 crore for its construction in it was stated that according to the investi- this Budget. I would like to submit that gation r~port the railway line is not viable if tlie construction work progresses at this because in the absence of industiy and pace it will take 45 years or more to com- mines, goods train cann'ot be run there. Jete it whatever be the allocation by the When this is the position then how can the Minister. What is the fault of the people? backwardness or' that area be removed. What have they done that they ate being Our Government is preparing itsik to deprived of development. Besides, I request enter the 21st century. I would, there- tbe' Gbvertunent to introduce a day train fore, request the hone Minister to take M.ai Iway Budget, MAkeR S. 1986

[Shri R. S. Khirhar] the fares but you should also see the up the matter with the Planning Depart- condition of trains, the railway stations ment and make provision ior railway lines and the insanitary conditions which pre- for backward areas as a welfare measure vail there. It should also be seen what so as to provide railway lines in that area. facilities are beiDi provided to the second The people of that area have not even class passengers. seen a train. Such backward areas should be connected by railway lines. 16.00 hrs.

I had mentioned earlier also that I would like to raise one more impor- Etah is a small district in Uttar Pradesh tant point. The Nepal Government had from where I have been elected. Once sugested construction of national highway Shri R0hanlal Chaturvedi belonging to from Kishanganj to Chhittauni on the that district was the Deputy Minister in Indo-Nepal border in September 1985. the Railways. He got a railway line The Members of Parliament represent- constructed from Etah to Barban. Tbe ing border areas convened a meeting ra;lway line was laid in Etah district where a memorandum was prepared which listed three demands. The Prime about which it was said that there was no railway line there. SinceS hri Chatur- Minister was giYen the memorandum in vedi belonged to that area he got the which it was demanded that a railway line work done and a railway line from Etah to should be provided from Sitamarhi to Barhan was laid. Muzaff'arpur and the metre gauge 1ine from Darbhanga to Narkatiyaganj should be [SHRI SHARAD DIGHE in the chair1 cOD\'erted into a board gauge line. Besides, Chhittauni overbrjdge should be construc- But this line did not prove to be of ted without further delay so that Bihar much use because there was not much and U.P. could be linked. But there is no passenger traffic on this line. A train mention of this in the Budget. The hon. arrives in the morning and the same departs Minister is present here. I hope he will pay in the evening. In this connection I re- attention to these demands. As I have call a proverb. little time, Shn Manoj Kumar will raise Faile bad to khud karen the other points. All the Members of Lanat karen Shaitan par Parliament of U.P. and Bihar, representing constituencies falling on the Indo- The condition of this railway line is so Nepal border, had submitted a memoran- unsatisfactory that it showed a Joss of Rs. dum in writing to this effect and even now 60 lakhs in 1983-84. This railway line is they are unanimous on the~e demands. In incurring loss continuously ever since it the end I would demand that Chhittauni was laid. I would request that if the overbridge should be constructed without Government do not intend to lay new rail- delay and the metre gauge line from way lines, it may not do so but at least Darbbanga to Narkatiyaganj should be the railway lines, which have already been converted into broad gauge line. laid, may be maintained properly and extended further. This line should be ex- With these words I support the Rail- tended from Etah to Farrukhabad. There way Budget. are a number of big markets and towns in this area. This railway line would SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOJ ALI pro\le to be viable in this area. If KHAN (Etah): Sir, by presenting the after conducting a survey of this Railway Budget the hone Railway Minister area, this raiJway line is extended upto has given us an opportunity to express our Farrukhabad, it will provide great relief to vjew~. Going through the Budget, I have the people of that area. The distance up- come to the conclusion that every year to Farrukhabad is 70 kilometres. By the fares are increased. This year also extending this railway line upto Farruk- the fares have been increased and the babad, it win laciJitate travel to Delhi. fares of second class have also been We have to travel by bus to attend the .1lhaaeed. You can, of course, increase Parliament session. If, however, tbis is Railway Budget. PHALOUNA 14, 1907 (SAKA)

not possible then a direct train may be are facing much hardship. Special atten- provided from Etah for passengers going tion should be paid towards the second to Allahabad and Lucknow, the High class passengers. It makes no difference Court of the State is located at Allahabad to the passengers travelling in first class if and the capital of the state is Lucknow. their fares are increased. But facilities People ha ve to face great difficulties in should be prov.ided to the second class going there in the the absence of the rail- passengers. Insanitary conditions prevail way services. I would request that in the railway stations. Latrines are not instead of the railway line, which is clean and there is no proper bathing faci- showing loss, a new railway line may be lity there. There are no proper waiting provided or it may be extended further. rooms or safety for the passengers at the stations. It is quite strange that there As per this Budget, no new rail ... are no headlights on the engines. Once I way line will be provided in Uttar was travelling on Farrukhabad-Kanpur Pradesh. Uttar Pradesh is the big- line. To my great surprise there was DO gest state in India and no new railway light in the entire train which can cause lot line has been provided for the state in this of harm. Therefore, I would request the Budget. I would, therefore, request that hon. Minister to look into the matter. It at least this railway line be extended fur- has great effect on the people. I would ther so that it may become viable. request the hon. Minister to specifically look into the matter. Etah is a backward as well as crime infested area. So, if the SecondJy ~ for going to Jammu and Government lay more railway lines there Kashmir, we can go by train only upto the people will be grateful to the Govern- Jammu. There is no train service beyond ment. this place for going to Srinagar. It is not possible to lay a railway line upto Srina- SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH (Guna) : gar? It is necessary to conduct a survey I congratulate the Minister of Railways for this railway line. for presenting a balanced Budget. The way diesel prices had been increased, the Thirdly, there is a halt station at Bal1u- people of the country were thinking that pur on Lucknow-Agra line of N.E. Rail- the railway fares will be heavily increased. way. This ~hould be made a full-fledged But the manner in which the Railways station. A number of passengers board the have progressed and earned profit in every train from this halt. Since this is a fieJd in the last two or three years, made 'Mandi', the Railways can get goods for it possible for them not to increase fares transportation also from here. This will heavily in spite of the hike in diesel prices. be useful for the RaiJways from commer- This will leave 80~~ of the people unaffect- ciaI point of view. This Ballupur halt ed. The people of the lower strata of should be made a full fledged Station. society in particular will not have to face the increase in the railway fares. I, there- My another point is that the Pawan fore, congratulate the hon. Minister. Express running in that area is stopped by the passengers wherever they like. I Mr. Chairman" Sir, the Railways are a represent that area and I catch train at huge department. There are 7000 railway Daryaoganj station. If Pawan Express is stations over an area of 6.000 kms. and stopped at Daryaoganj station it would 11000 trains criss-cross this area daily. It prove use;ul not onJy for me but other is not an ordinary things to bring about passengers also who want to travel to improvement in such a vast department Delhi. I would, therefore, request that it but you have made earnest efforts and would be better if Pawan Express and eyery one is feeling that. The Railways Lucknow Express ace stopped at Daryao have made progress in every field, be it canj railway station. the transporation of goods or bringing down the rate' of accidents. Our hon. You may increase rail\\< ay fares but Prime Minister had laid emphasis on you should also brina about improvement modernisation and in pursuance thereof in 1b. r,Uway se(vic~s. The pa5sensers COJ;llplltcrisation was ifltroduced ia tb~ 2&7 If.'4i1"'4), Budget, MAIleR S, 1986

[Shri Mahondra Singh] ed so as to raise the morale of OUl" playccs R-ailways by computerising the reservation and sportsmen to improve their perfor- system in Delhi. In other places also this ma~ce at international level. In addition, an-angement will be extended. I, therefore, natIonal and state level players shQwd also congratulate the hone Minister. I also urge be shown preference in the mattec of that frei,bt operation too should be com- employment in the Railways. The sp.QCts- 9 puterised. In foreign countries, it has men have been demanding 'single fa&'c proved to be very beneficia1. I. therefoJe, ~ouble journey, quota for quite a 10D,. request that freight operation should also tIme. I request you to consider this demand also. . t>. computerised at the earliest.

Mr-. Chairman, Sir, I want to congra- Now I draw your attention to my own Lok tulate the hone Minister also for improve- Sabha constituency. Malwa Express rUDS ment in efficiency in the Department. from via Indore Bhopal three days a week. Transport is the concise index of efficie- My request is that it should run three days ncy. There has been 10 to 15 per cent enroute Guna. In this way there will be increase in the net tonne kilometre per direct connection between Guna, Bina and wagon per. day. For this I congratulate Indore and the passengers of this area will be greatly benefited. There has been a the Go~ernment. The Railways had created 42 per cent resources during the Sixth long standing demand for providing stopp- Five Year Plan and in the Seventh Five age of the J aoata Express and the Dadar Yeal" Plan a target of mob!lising 50 per Amritsar Exoress at Barai station in my cent internal resources has been fixed. area. I request that even if it is for two This bas brought much impr Jvement in the minutes, direction for stopping the Janata situation. There will be all round improvem- Express and Dadar Amritsar Express at ent in the situation as the old tracks will be Bara! ~tation may be issued. Similarly, prOVISIon should be for stoppage of renewed, lines will be electrified, new coa- made ches, wagons will be manufactured. There Sabarmati Express also at Shadora and will be considerable improvement in efficie- Ruthiyari stations, which the people of the ncy on account of the target of renewal of area have been demanding for quite a 4000 kms. track and production of 2500 long time. I request you to consider this demand sympatheticalJy. waaons every year, agaInst the present rate of 1300 wagons. After the factory at demand for an overbridge near Kapurthala is commissioned, the shortage A Ashok Nagar in my area has been out- of wagons will definitely be removed. standing for long. I request you to sanction this overbridge. In addition, I request Sir, I congratulate the railway empJo- that a fast passenger train upto Bhopal years also, particularly for their discipline on Kota-Bina rail line should also be and sincerity which has brought about started. improvement in the Department and which has been appreciated by the hone Minister After Shri Madhav Rao Scindia became also .. I urge the hon. Minister that more the Minister, there is a feeling ~hat the attention should be paid towards providing railway services in the Gwalior division have facilities to them. I congratulate the hon. increased considerably. We have certainly Minister for increasing the number of staff got many rail facilities, but on dIe quarters and staff amenities. Appropria- Gwalior-Guna section, passengers have tion to depreciation reserve fund has been not got any facility. I think when he was kept at bigh level and replacement of the Member of Parliament he was instru- overaged assets is also necessary. For mental in getting many facilities by per- this also I congratulate him. I suggest suading the hone Minister. It is said that that sportsmen should be provided more the Taj Express extended upto Gwalior amenities. by Shri Scindia but the decision to extend it upto Gwalior had been taken during I want to make a submission that Shri Abdul Ghani Khan's tenure as the under the· sports quota more and more Railway Minister. I want that this train fportSl1len ~pd ",ome~ sb0\11d b~ mlplo),- s~ould be' extended not only to Q~'HOt PHALOUNA 14, 1907 (SAKA) 1f8641

IMat upto Khajuraho also, After all one of 40 thousand million passcDler kilo- of the aims is to earn revenue. Earlier it metres. Keeping in view all these tmap. used to remain idle at Agra for 8 hours if the Planning Commission providet maxi- and even now it remains idle for 41 hours mum funds!, only then we will be aele te at Gwalior. Khajuraho is an attractive achieve our target and I re~t tDU place from tourist's point of view. Its attention may be pa id towards this.. Wi", exteDAion upto that place can fetch siz- these words, I support the Railway Budaot. able revenue to the Railways. Also, with electrification, the speed of the train is ·SHRI G. S. BASAVARAJU (Tum- also increasing, I, therefore, request you kur) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, so far many of to treal the Taj Express as a tourist train my friends have ventilated their views and it may be extended upto Jhausi. about the Railway Budget for the year Luxury coaches should be attached with 1986-87 presented by our hone Miaister. this train so that the foreign travellers There is no increase in the second class may travel with comfort. This will result fare and in the students concessions.. Tho in increase in income to the Railways. common man in the country is very happJ" with the railway budget. I wholeheartedly Lastly, I want to congratulate you for welcome and support this budget and ox... bringing down the number of accidents. press certain views about the arlevanees of You have admitted that 65 per cent the people of Karnataka State. accidents occur due to the employee's fault and we know that more attention is Indian Railway is one of the bigestin being paid on the aspect of safety. Whereas the world and every year crores of in 1980-81, the number of accidents was rupees are earned. There is no other tra- 1013, last year it was 741 and this year nsportation system which is as convenicmt upto February the number is 665. I as railways. But it is unfortunate that a congratulate you specially for reduction in meagre amount has been allocated (or tM their number. You are trying to bring construction of new lines. Last year about them further down. 84 crores of rupees were provided for construction of new lines. This year the One particular request that I want to amount is only 100 crores. This amount is make is that manual signals should be not at all sufficient. Due to escalatiGD the replaced by electric signals and at least construction charges have gone up steadily. one person must be posted at every level If this kind of allocation of a mcarae crossing not only to reduce the number of amount for new lines continues, there cannot accidents but also to provide employment be good progress in the country. Traas- to some people. portation of various goods from nook and corner of the country would became a Then I want that the Planning Com- great problem if new lines are not CODS- mission should allocate maximum funds to tructed. Therefore, I request the hon. tbe Railways so that new rail lines may be Minister to plead with the Planning Com- laid and railway facilities could be mission and to get an allocation of at least extended to the backward areas also. one thousand crores of rupees every year The present pace of laying new railway for the construction of new railway lines lines is very slow. You have with the in the country. All the time, Kamataka collaboration of the Indian Tourism State has been neglected with regard to Development Coporation effected a lot of railway facilities. Step motherly attitude-is improvement in the quality of meals served being shown to southern States particu- by the Railways. For this also I congratu- larly to Karnataka. late "OU. You have paid attention towards the problem of environment also and have In the 6th Plan about 2S crores of planted trees near the railway lines. For rupees were made available for the electri- this also I congratulate you. fication of' the railway line between. Ban- galore and Jolerpet. Strangely, an amount By the end of the century, there will be-such -an increase in the rail traffic that ·The speech wa.s originally

(Sui G. S. Basavar~u] very vital project in the State of "r only thousand rupees has now been Karnataka. allotted. If this is the condition how can we expect any electrification work in Karnataka has only about SO to 80 Karnataka State. I hope the hone Minister Kms. of broad gaule line. This is almost would reconsider this matter and allocate negligible when it is compared with the more funds for this electrification of Ban.. broad gauge lines of other States. Most of galore-]olerpet railway line. the officials in the railway department situated in Karnataka are from Kerala or An amount of 25 crores of rupees was Tamilnadu. They do not take keen inte... made available for conversion of metre rest in providing more facilities to the gauge into broad gauge between Mysore passengers. Hence while appointment is and Bangalore in the year 1979. This is a made for the railway departments in Kar... very high density route but unfortunately nataka preference should be given to the in the recent years only 60 to 70 lakhs ot people of Karnataka. rupees were provided each year. This year the amount is only 20 lakhs of rupees. Due to theft goods worth about thou- Therefore, the work is going on at snails sand crores Qf rupees are lost every year. pace and I am afraid at this rate this con- As lawyers we have seen in the courts version work may not be completed even many people making false claims. In after another 50 years. some cases officials are a Iso involved in thes~ theft cases. Some stringent measures There was a proposal of a new rail- have to be taken to see that theft in the way Hne between Kottur and Harihar. railways in stopped ORce and for all times Thi s has been stopped at the survey stage to come. To stop such cases there should itself. Similarly the proposal of converting be continuance vigilance. Bangalore-Miraj line into broad gauge is also pending for the last several years. Almost all the State capitals have This IS a very good link between southern daily trains from New Delhi except Banga- and northern regions of the country. The lore. Karnataka Express runs only twice a distance of this line is only about 300 kms. week. Therefore, I request the hon. Mifli- I believe that the Government would give ster to immediately introduce a daiJy Raj.. a serious thought about the conversion of dhani Express between Banaalore and New this important line. Delhi.

Hubli-Sholapur line is an.ther impor- I hop that the hone Ministor would tant route which should be mad. a broad look into all the points that have been aauge line. ,The hone Minister should also raised and allocate more funds for const.. take up the railway line construction work ruction, conversion, electrification and between Hubli and Karwar. Karwar is an doubJing of railway track in my State of important port and it must be linked with Karnataka. I thank you for giving me this Hubli to encourage trade. Another line has opportunity to speak and with these words to be constructed between Maddur and I conclude my speech. Ananthapur via Pavagad. This line would connect the States of Andhra Pradesh and {Enllish] Karnataka. A new railway line has to be taken up between Bellary and Sree nga- SHRI UTTAM RATHOD (Hingoli): patnam via Sira. This will help lakhs of Mr. Chairman, I rise to point out some of people in that area and it will be a boon the things, some of the on-Ioing projects to the businessmen. which have been neglected to a great extent by the Railway Department.

Chitradurga-Rayadurga line is an im- As you are aware, when Maharashtra J)ortant ongoina project for which only 20 was facing a drought, the then Prime lakhs of rupees have been provided this Minister Shritnati Indira Gandhi addressed year. I request the hone Minister to pro- a public meetinl in Aur~gabad and pro- via. tnQre money fo{ tllis pt;oject .s it is a tai~od t~t tll. Matl\1lad-pudi b{Qa4-..~.~ 1986-87

con version. work that is, from Manmad to Ministry the people of. Digras and t~t Parbani would be taken up immediate1 y. area had requested him that this line may be taken up. Lal Bahadurji promised In 1977 Prof. Madhu Dandavate start- that he would consider it. Later on, ed the work of the construction. But un- nothing was done. And when Shri Ghulam fortunately for paucity of funds this line Nabi Azad came to Washim he took up had boen completely nealected. In spite of the issue and some provision was made for several representations from the public as doing traffic-cum-engineering survey. Last woll as from the Members of Parliament. year I think some seven lakhs of rupees we have not been able to make a headway were provided for this. But this year the as far as this work is concerned. There is amount is reduced up by 50 per cent. I • areat disappointment in the minds of the do not know why it should be so.~ The Jand people, a feeling of frustration in the is there. From Darwha to Pusad the whole area as the people from that area, railway department has only to take action that is Marathwada region feels that deve- to restore it. The banking is there, the only lopment can come only through broad thing you have to do is to widen it. The la\1&c. I want you to take up this issue at bridges are there, only tht rails arc miiiin&,. least in the Supplementary Budget and see They have to be put. Ii you do that the that some more funds are provided. Last people will feel that something is ••iDIl year when I spoke on this issue I had done. specifically asked the Railway Ministry to teU us the date on which they will be completine this project so that wc could After independence, some lines were travel from Bombay to Aurangabad. But constructed by the Railway Department. even till this day they have not been able to In that Puruna... Hingo]i-Khandwa metre- say that. I do not know why the Railway gauge line was also constructed. But Ministry does not give us a definite time commuters on this section have to pay or at least specify when they would be 1.33 percent more fare than others. I do taking us by broad gauge up to Aurangbad. not know why these charges should be In all seriousness I would request the hone levied. I enquired from the Minister and Minister to pay more attention towards he had expressed his liability. Why should this project because the peopJe are frustra- he not be equated with other passeIl&cr ted and now the younger generation fares ? Do you differentiate bet weeD especial1y the students, who had come rece- commuters of Delhi and Bombay or for ntly in a delegation, are very very disap- that matter Poona? No, you do not do pointed and I am afraid that they may go that. You have a parity for that. But to any extent and for that the Railway how is it that people travelling on Puruna... Ministry only will be held responsible. It Hingoli-Khandwa line are charged more ? will not be possible for us to control them Is it a penalty they have to pay for remain- for they feel that they are being eilibera- ing backward during the Nizam:s time? tely neglected. Every year you make pro- In fact, your attitude should be to give vision of Rs. 50 lakhs or Rs. 1 crores, and subsidy in order to bring them at par with then you go on subsequently increa- others. But here you are doing injustice sing it, ultimately what happens? The to the backward people by charging 2.33 conversion is not yet complete and the per cent more. people feel frustrated. I hope you will take these things into consideration. One more individual case. At Ringoli station we want a foot bridge. Bu'" this request is not granted. Even drinking I am grateful for making some provi ... facilities, water coolers are not prOVided. sion for Darwha.. Hadgaon-Bhokar line. I do not know why these facilities are not This railway line from Drawha to Pusad provided by the Railway Department. which is 36 miles long was there till 1939. When you are introducing computers here, It w.s a narrow gauge line. This we are happy. But do something for us. Ii.. was uprooted and shifted Aiter all, we are also human beinp. somewhere in Iraq in the M\ddle...... t. In 1953 when Shri Lal Bahadur With aU these thin,s I support flU, ,"'tiri was in chal'l. of the Railway Budtct. BBGUM AKBAR lAHAN ABDUL- construction of a raillway line between LAH (Anaatnag): In the R.ailway' Budget Udbampur and Srinagar becomes a posi- ~ on 26th of tbe last moatb, there bility. are some good proposals. The proposal Bet to increase tbe fare for second class Survey was conducted long ago to lay passoBprs is a weleome step. The conces- the railway line between Qazigud and sion to students is also a good decision. Baramulla. But the line was not cons- lhat cnarges of second class reservation tructed and there is no assurance from the tbould flot have been increased. Railway Minister to this effect.

I would also plead for cleanliness in Kashmir has to be on the Railway map R_lwaYf. Above all, I would plead for of India and, therefore, I expect that the punctuality in Railways. It must be Railway Minister will extend an assurance .blown to the Minister that the trains are to me that railways win be extended to rUllnial invariably late. Srinaaar and other towns in Kashmir.

Railways are one of the most impor- The Railway Minister must be fully tant vehicles of national development not aware of the fact that extension of railways ollly from the point of view of national to the Kashmir Valley will be a step to- investment, but also from the point of wards economic development in the J&K view of employment that Railways provide. State, besides promoting national integra- There is no doubt that Railways have tion. played a great role in the nation's socio- economic development. Besides, passenger [Translation) movement from one corner of the country SHRI R.P. SUMAN (Akbarpur) : Mr. to the otherJ Railways carry million tonnes Chairman, Sir~ I rise to support the Rail- of carlo comparatively lower rates. way Budget because it provides relief to the poor and would ensure development in the Unfortunately, Jammu & Kashmir State Railways in spite of the 1imited resources. bas reamined very backward in Railways. It is a welcome Budget. But Sir, there arc In a way we have remained where we were two or three points towards which I want in 1947. We had the Railway link upto to draw the attention of the hon. Minister. Jammu and today also we have the railway I am putting forth suggestions which do link upto Jammu ouly. Seven years ago, not need extra expenditure and at the same construction of Railway line from J amm u time will provide much relief to the to U dhampur was started. Initially, it public. was a Rs. 70 crore project and the line was supposed to be completed within five The whole of the country is aware that years. 6 years have already elapsed so eastern region of Uttar Pradesh is a very far, but hardly Rs. 4,5 crores have been backward area and in that region Faizabad spent on this line. In view of the price is still more backward. It is a matter of escalation, more funds will be required to regret that Faizabad is constantly being complete this project. The work on this neglected. The service of Lucknow-Mogh- project has been goins on very sluggishly aJsarai passenger train is quite erratic, it and I am not sure that this project will usually runs 1ate by as much as 24 hours. be completed within a matter of even five My submission is that the way attention years from now. has been paid towards fast trains, the passenger trains should also be taken care of. As for the Railway line between These trains run very late and are in such Udhampur and Srinagar~ it is shocking that dilipidated condition that peopje have to the Ministry bas not even conducted survey face great difficulty in travelling by it. This so far. 'What is the reason for delay in situation should be remedied and the con- conducting the survey. It is not difficult to dition of these trains should be improved. have tunnels through mountains in modern Special attention should be paid there'so aae of technology. tbat the punctuality of these trains could The Railway Minister should earmark be ensured. "'ods for conductin, survey, so tnat 'SeecmdJy, there is- ollly on. d~t traiD· .., I JllH-way budget, PHALOtlNA 14 ••901 (SAltA) avaiiable between Delhi and Varanasi via on Saryu river, this train should be run Faizabad and Jaunpur and that is Ganga- from Tanda to Allahabad via Akbarpur, Yanruna express i.e. 83 Up and 84 Dn but Gosainganj and Faizabad so that the po· that too runs on this route only four days pulation of that area could be benefited. a week. For the remaining three days it Thus, that train would be linked both with goes via Sultanpur. My suggestion is that Saryu river and Ayodhya and the senti- Assam Mail should be diverted to Sultan- ments of the people of that area would pur and this train i.e. 83 Up and 84 Dn. ai<;o be respected. Therefore, I request Ganga-Yamuna Express in the absence of that a train from Tanda to Allahabad via any other direct train in this direction, Akbarpur, Ayodhya, Faizabad should be should run on all the days of the week bet- introduced. ween Delhi and Varanasi via Faizabad, Jaunpur. The AC coach connected at My another submission is that about Delhi with this train is detached between 35 lakh people belonging to Faizabad, Lucknow and Varanasi. My submission Azanlgarh, Sultanpur, Jaunpur, Basti and is that it should not be detached because Eastern Uttar Pradesh are settled in Bom- there are people who would like to travel bay and they have often to travel between in AC Coach between Lucknow and Bombay and their hometown. They ex- Varanasi. Therefore, it should not be perience a lot of inconvenience during this done that AC coach is attached upto journey. If they want to go to Bombay, Luckoow and then it is detached. they have to go via Banaras or Lucknow. Therefore, nly request is that instead of Similarly, earlier there used to be a running the Kashi Express from Banaras train, Delhi-Bu:xar Passenger train, which to Bombay l'ia Allahabad, it should be run used to start from Delhi and was known via Jaunpur, Shahganj, MaJipur, Akbarpur, as Janata train. It gave a lot of relief t~ Ayodhya, Faizabad and AUahabad. tbe people but subsequently, for reasons It would mean a little diversion in the unknown to us, this train was made Bareil- route, but it will cater to the needs of ly-Buxar passenger train in place of Delhi- three to four districts and thus they will be Buxar passenger. I request that Delhi- benefited. Faizabad, Su]tanpur and Buxar passenger may be restored to pro- Pratapgarh will also be connected there- vide relief to the people because there is by. no other direct train between Delhi and Varanasi. It will not involve any expen- Secondly, there is a historical place of diture also. pilgrimage at Kichochha-Sharief which is Just near Akbarpur-the constituency I re- Thirdly, Ayodbya bas great historical a present. The people even from abroad significance. regret to say that in spite I come here to make an offering in iulfilment of repeated requests Ayodhya is being of avow. Akbarpur is a junction where neglected. has te!n demanded for qt ite It reservation in first or second class is not a long time and memoranda have also available in any of the trains except been subm itted regarding a railway bridge Ganga-Jamuna Express. There is a spin- in Ayodhya but we do not know why such ing Mill, Shriganohi Ashrtilm and Tanda an important place is being neglected and Thermal Power Project of 440 MW capa- the bridge in not being constructed there. ci ty. The area is inhabited by the wea- Immediate arrangements Should be made vers. Therefore, keeping in view the im- for its construction. portance of this place, reservation for at Fourthly, there has been a constant least four first class berths and eight second demand that a train should be provided class berths should be provided there. which may connect Allahabad with This will provide relief to the local Ayodhya. Last time the hon. Minister people. was kind enough to start Surya Express but that was started between Faiza- I had taken up the matter of providina bad and Allahabad whereas the waiting room facility there with the bon. ciemalld of the people was to run it bet- Minister. There is no provision of shed ween Ayodha and Allahabad. I suggest and drinking water there. I was told in tbat itt view of the 440 K.W. Thermal reply to my letter that platform shed is '_"'.r 'Project being constructed at Tanda already there. I can say with authority MAltbli: 5. iii6

{Shri R. P. Suman] services. The suburban services need some special attention. I request the Minister that there is no shed there and the hon. to do the needful. Of course, he is aware Minister go and see it himself that can of the rush in the Bombay suburban train. there is no shed where the train stops Last time when Shastriji, the then Minister daily. I, thsrefore, request that a shed for Railways, travelled in the third class should be constructed there. At the same when I was also in the third class compart- time, I would also like to point out that ment and he came to know about the rush. the level of none of the platforms at Similarly, I request the Minister to see the Tanda is of the required height. As a rush there. No man can enter into the r.sult of it, the passenger experience a lot train and the person who enters cannot of difficulty. Hence, I request that at get down in the next station. So, what is loast one platform at Tanda should be the alternative? I suggest that at present elevated to the required level of height. there are 9 rakes. I wonder whether 12 rake As most of the population in this area can be provided. So, I request the Minis- belongs to the weaver community., 'ango- ter to see the possibility of puttina 12 chha" and 'lungis ~ of a fine veriety are rakes so that mor. pasacnaers can ao by produced there. Therefore, a godown the iame route. should also be constructed there with a view to providing relief to the people. There is iorne iuggestion that some With these words, I support the suburban stations like Kalyan have DO Budaot . home platform. There is a proposal to have a home platform for Kalyan station [Bn,liflh} so that more trains can ao. So, I request that it should be taken up immediately. SHRI S. G. GHOLAP (Thane) : Mr. Chairman, Sir., first of all I thank you for Yesterday I was listening to the &iving me this chance to speak now. I speeches of some hon. Members. Even the congratulate the hon. Minister and I sup- small issues were taken up by them. Why ? port the Budget. It is the first Budget not Because there is no system at present to . of the Railway Ministry, but of the Trans- solve the problems at the bottom. For port Department. I don't understand this, there should be a Committee. So, what is the special benefit of creating this I request that there should be a divisional Transport Department. Previously it was level committee. At present there is a already a very big department. The Rail- Committee, but there is only one M.P. way Department itself has been a very big from the Division. So, I request that there onc. Now it includes water transport, should be a divisional level committee air transport and surface transport. All where M.Ps. from that area are represent- those things are included. What is the .d so that we can suggest various things advantage of creating this Transport and we can implement various proposals. Department? I don't know. I hope that the Minister will reply to this point. Sir, One thing that I have come to know onc day before the Budget the Prime Mini- about the Bombay Division is that all the ster has stated that 'we will have to take uriftals and lavatories at the stations arc very hard decisions'. So we were all under removed. I was told that it is a policy the impression that definitely there win be decision 0 f the Railways that there should more charges. But I must congratulate be no lavatories in the stations. I do not the Minister that in these circumstances he know why this decision has been taken. has Dot increased the ticket fare for the II In some stations people have to sometimes class passengers, passengers of the subur- wait for hours together. So lavatories ban trains and pass-holders and for goods should be provided at the stations. traffic. So, of passengers are exemp- 90% The suburban Diva Vasai railway line ted Irom additional burden. Therefore, has already been completed in 1981 and I congratulate the hon.. Minister for 100ds traffic has already started there. this. The electrification also is over. So, in Diva Vasai the loods trains are nmftilll, .OW wish to deal with the suburBan I ltut paH."lers trains are Bot ruuiaa. So, 'Ot pKALQUNA 104, 1907 (SJfU) 1"1-'7

I request that passenger service should be is beine strengthened, there 'is an acute started on the Diva Vasai line so that the shortage of M. V. F. U. for the Armed Central Railways will be connected with corps. The shortage is felt particularly tbe Western Railway by a suburban train. at the time of movement of armed units So, the passenger service should be started from one place to another, during the imediately on that tine. movement for training and for the move. ment to the front at the time of operation. There is one Central Zonal Committee. If the same is not supplied in time then For one year I have been waiting for the the armed units have to wait for months invitation, but no invitation has come and for their transporation to the firing ranaes no meeting is called for. Why is it not and to the places of training. They face called ? That should be inquired into so a great deal of difficulty in getting bogies! that there will bc a regular meeting of wagons. Even in getting power for the that Committee. engine, there is a lot of corruption. A host of problems are faced in getting an Regarding the new railway line of engine. Whenever, power is requisitioned Mankhurd.. Belapur, last year Rs. 2 crores for shunting, they face a number of diffi.. were provided, but all of a sudden Rs. culties. Therefore, the hon. Minister one-and-a-half crores were taken back must pay attention to it. and given to some other states. The railway free travel concession to Again the amount was returned, but it t he army personnel is a vailabl. only once has not been spent. This year only Rs. a year when they proceed on two montlls 10 lakhs are provided. Of course, it is annual leave. The conce~sional warrant negligible. There is a proposal that bonds is issued only for one months casual should be issued by the State Government leave. This has been in vogue since tb. and the amount realised will be given by British days. These army personnel SIDCO to the Railway. Even then there should be given this facility of warrant at cannot be sufficient money for two-three least thrice a year to enable them to 80 to years. So, work should be taken up in their home town during leave. Similarly ~ throe stages: (I) Mankhurd to creek concession 8hould also be given to the bridge; (2) Belapur to bridge (3) the creek ex-servicemen as they have also served in bridae. The idea is that money can be the army. made available in three stages and the work can be completed within five years. Secondly, I also share the vicws expressed by the ball. Planning Minister that The work on Vasai creek bridge near the moment we cross over to Gujarat Bandra on Western Railway is going very from Rajasthan by car, we feel the diffe- slow and it is not known how much time rence that we have entered another area. it will take. So, I request that work Similarly, when we go to Haryana from should be completed early so tbat subur- Delhi and cross over to Rajasthan, even a ban trains can carry more passengers. sleeping person would teU that Rajasthan has .come. At least this difference should With these suggestions, I support the not be felt in the trains. Then only one Railway Budget. ean say that there has been some improvement in tbe railways. [Translation] Not a single broad gauge railway liB. SHRI MOHD. AYUB KHAN (Jhunj- is there in Ra jastnan. No progress in the bunu): Mr. Chairman, Sir, at the out- matter of railways is visible there. There- set, I congratulate the RaHway Minister fore, I request the hone Minister to pay for presenting such a good Railway Budget. attention to it. I suggest that the DellP- At tbe same time, I would also say-our Ahmedabad train which runs via Jaipur bOD. Defence Minister is also present here four days a week should run via Loharu, • .. that very little attention has been paid in Jhunjunu and Sikar on the remaining three ,he Budaet to our Armed Forces. Keep- days 0 .. the week to cater to JhunJhunu ill iq iu view ttl. i~ .t wtuch Qur Anny Raj_stll... This will ~rovi4e a ~i4 ~f Rall'tWIJI Budget MARCH 5, 1986 1f86-17

[Shu Mood. Ayub Khan] reaches Madurai 492 KM. by 5 AM and to the people to the people of that area it is very ironical for him to pay extra particularly that of Jhunjhunu. Rs. 5/- for his journey after 5 AM. This levy is totally unwanted. I request the hon. There is a train which runs from Minister to withdraw it. I am pleading for Dabri to Singhana Copper Project in the posting of a Chief Administrative Khetri. It runs as a goods train only. If Officer to the Madras Rapid Transit some passenger coaches are also attached Railway Project. From the inception of to this train, it wiIJ benefit the local the Organisation in 1971 till 1976, when people. the Project was doing only survey work and the other works, it was headed by a Shri Bansilal has introduced a train Chief Administrative Officer only. But named Shekhwati Express whjch runs bet- when the actual project work has com- ween Delhi and Jaipur. This train should menced, it is headed by a Chief Engineer, be extended upto Swai Madhopur. This an Officer of a lower rank. I would still win also give benefit to the people, be- appeal to reconsider the decision and post cause another train from Jaipur leaves a Chief Administrative Officer who can immediately after the departure of this independently take decision for the speedy train with very few passengers in it. This execution of this project. train comes from Loharu. If that train is run from Loharu to Ahmedabad or from The Railway Ministry has lost its Lobaru to Ajmer, this most backward area separate identity when the Cabinet rank can greatly benefit from the point of view Minister for Transport has been created. of railways facilities. In order to pay dividend, an increase of Rs. 76 crores has been proposed by That area of Rajasthan has only nar- Minister of Rai ways leading to a surplus row gauge lines and even the tracks are of Rs. 7 crores. This increase in fares is overaged. Both bogies and engines are not at all warranted at this present juncture worn out. I hope, the hon. Minister will when the Government of India wants to pay attention to it and accede to my conserve the use OJ petroleum products, request with regard to running Delhi- the hike in fares will divert public to Ahmedabad train via Loharu, JhunJhunu, resort more to road transport only. For Sikar and Flaira on the remaining three example, the fare in the case of roa d days of the week. transport from Madras to Trichi is Rs. 27.20 p. and the fare in the case of railways is Rs. 30/-. With the present [English) increase in fares of railways, public has to DR. A. KALANIDHI (Madras pay Rs. 2.80 p. more to go to Trichi Central): At the outset, let me pay my from Madras. This wIll definitely increase compliments not only to the hon. Minister the consumption of diesel or petrol, as for Transport Mr. Bansi La1, Minister of the case may be. One train from Madras State for Railways Mr. Madbavrao Scindia, to Trichi will carry roughly 900 persom but also to the Chairman of the Railway and if it is done by road transport, it will Board, Members of the Railway Board, require at least 17 buses, By this, the and staff of the Railways, for the excellent consumption of petroleum products will performance in the first nine months of increase two-fold which goes against tbe the current year in having registered a stand taken by our hon. Prime Minister growth-rate of 9.1 % in reven ue earning and the Finance Minister. If you want to traffic over the previous year despite conser ve the of use petroleum products, the short-fall in the offerings from the you should have reduced the fares charged core sectors like coal and steel. This has by the railways whether it is mail, express enabled the railways to surpass the over- or passenger train. You are adopting all Budget by 2.2%. The increase in the double standards in the increase of fares. sleeper charges at Rs. 5/- for the journey beyond 500 KM is unwanted. Take, for Coming to the provision of funds for instance, the case of a passenger travelling on-going schemes in Souther,n railwAY, from Madras to Tirunelveli, 649 KM. He particulQ,rly in Te.milnadu, the amQunt of 30S PHALGUNA 14, 1907(SAL4) 1986-8' • Rs. 4 crores allotted to Madras Rapid in EMU Unit at Tambaram for many Transit system is not at all adequte and years but they are not made permanent. at least a sum of Rs. 20 crores should bave been made to see that this Project (iv) There are a lot of grievances put is completed in the next five years. At forth by the employees in leF, ~ the present rate, I fear, that this Project WOl'ki, Carriage Works, Golden Rock will not see its end even after the conl- Workshops at Trichi and Podanur. But pletion of the 8th Five Year Plan. Per- they are not being attended to by the haps, this Project is also slated for the Administra tion effectively. 21st Century! Even the Karur-Dindigul- Tuticorin line is also limping. With a This problem is continuing without any demand of Rs. 28 crores for this year, solution for the past many years. Recently only a sum of Rs. 3.5 crores has been th.e Railway Board had passed an order in allocated. The electrical multiple units at October 1985 that for-the posts of Khalasis Madras city from Madras beach to Tam- and casual labour the minimum qualifi- baram had also reached saturation point. cation is IT!. I request the hone Minister Adequate units are to be added immediately to withdraw this order and restore tbe but no provision has been made in the status quo that existed prior to October Bud&et. 1985.

Another need of Madras city is the The railway quarters in Thiruvanna- circular railway line but railways had not malai are facini an acute water scarcity. made any attempt to do anything in this Instead of taking action to undo the direction. At least, the line between V illi- sufferings experienced by its own emoloyees vakkam and Annanagar, Arumbakkam the administration has transferred some should have been taken up in the current employees and intends to transfer some year: The railway line between Chengle- more since it is stated that they have brou- put-Kanjeepuram-Arakkonam is not util.is- ght to the notice of an M.P. their suiIerinp. cd fulJy on some pretext or the other. So Is it a crime for the employees to bring to also the line between Katpadi-Tiruvanna- the notice of an M. P. their legiti- malai-Villupuram-Tirunelveli-Nagarkoil-Ka- mate grievances after exhausting all the nyakumarjoLTrivandrum. When the question avenues at their disposal? of provision of funds for ongoing schemes or for new schemes to be taken up in The porters and canteen workers of Tamilnadu came up, there is a stock reply railways should be departmentalised like that there is no fund available. Why this that of the employees in the Civil Aviation discrimination ? Department and given the benefits of regular employees of railways. Coming to the welfare of the employees of railways, I wish to bring to your Regarding new schemes to be taken notice the followine poil'lts :- up, I would like to draw the attention of the hon. Minister for Transport the need to (i) The revision of pay scales and make a beginning in the circular railway seniority of Store Issuers/Material line, that is, the Villivakkam-Annanagar- Checkers of Loco, Carriage and Stores Arumbak.kam line which will displace the Department of Perambur Complex is dra- use of about 100 trips in this sector of the gging on for the past 30 years without any road transport which is already choked. If solution; there is a will, there is away. If the hon. Minister orders, this line could be got (ii) There is discrimination in the ready within six months and ii. will save the scales of pay gh;en to the 'B' Group offi- much-needed foreign exchange by reducina cers in Railways, between promotees and the consumption of petroleum products direct recruIts even though they are doing used by the buses. the same volume and type of work. This Another thing is the need to provide is pending ever since 1947. funds for the sub-way connecting the new railway station coming up opposito the (iii) There are 96 kbal~sis working It.IlWQ)' lJud,et.

Dr. A. Kalanidhi) I'f'iatc, so tbet the passedJe!'s could get milk if flO water k availtlble. I wallt tb&t new airport terminal at Meenambakkam. Choudhary Sahih should pay ade4tlate The- distance is only 100 metres but the attention to it. Today. if somebody wants road is a national highway which is busy to have tea be wO'Uld not get it, Suppose, through out day and night. Hence I request somebody wants to have tea without S8IM, the hon. Minister to consider this and do that too is impossible because ho will have it witlwut any delay. - to order a fun breakfast which. costs at least Rs. five. Therefore, I want that you With these few words, I thank you. should pay attention to- this a150. So far as railway catering is concerned, I would { TrQIIs/~tionJ like to point out that it is not fUllctionnig properly. It ~ because of the contractots CH. SUNDER SINGH - (Pltillaur) who are handling it. The catering s~Fvjce Mr. Chairman, Sir, this is my first speech should be entrusted to the cooperative in the Budget session, 1986. A splendid societies or to the local peopJe. If this is Railway Budget has been presented by the done, quality food can be ensured and hon. Railway Minister who himself is a everything will be systematic. goon person. But in my view, Shri Baosi Lal has not been able to effect improve- I have one point regarding the avai- ments in the railways in conformity WIth lability of newspapers. Genera By aU the his dominant personality. The Government newspapers are not available at all the officials used to be scared of his towering railway stations. Therefore, I would re- personality, but that type of situation is quest to ensure it as well. yet to be seen in the Railways. The officials do not have any s~nse of fear so Ever since Chaudhary Sahib (Shri far, I do not know why is it so. Similarly. Bansi LaI) took charge of the Railways, OUI' Minister of state is also a very nice there has been improvement in its working and wise person having a calm compo- but it is not to the desired extent. The re- sure. But Choudhary Bansi Lal has not servation charts are not Gisplayed at all lived up-to oll,r expectations so far. the railway stations. I would like that tbes~ First of all, I would like to draw your charts should be displayed well in advance attention to J alandhar-Gurdaspur railway to reduce inconvenience to passengers. line. In view of the increasing traffic on Chaudhary Sahib has not been also to that line, there is an urgent need to con- instil fear of administration in the mind of vert it into a double lipe. There has been railwaymen. It would have further improv- a tremendous increase in the population ed the situation. there and the condition of the train services is miserable. Nowadays the people I n fact improvements have to be made J'refer to travel by bus instead of a train. in the working of Department of Railways When they travel in trains, insanitary con- which requires co-operation from all of us, ditions prevail there. If you happen to but the question is, how? The situation travel from Amritsar to Pathankot in a in Punjab is going from bad to worse day first class compartment, you will find it in by day. There is danger to life and pro- a very bad state. Apart from insanitation, perty of the people. The people do not you will find that seat covers are either feel secure there. In these circumstances missing or torn and that is why peop]~ the question of bringing about improve- prefer to travel by bus. When this is the ment in the Railways can be considered condition of first class, you can very well only when efforts are made to solve the imagine what would be the state of affairs biggest problem. With these words I ex- in the second c1ass. During the British press my gratitude for the opportunity time, it was quite common to hear hawkers given to me. shouting water for Hindus or water for Mwlims but now even drinking water is -17.03 hrs. not available to the passengers. You mtlY kindly prGVide two milk booths at every [MR.. DEPUTY SPE~l

SHRI KAMMODILAL lATAV Minister of State for Railways for having (Monna): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I presented this balanced and reasonable thank you for giving me an opportunity to Railway Budget. Regarding improvement speak.. The bon. Tramport Minister Shri in the general working in connection with Bansi Lal and the ·Railway Minister Shri passenger facilities such as canteen, wait- Madhavrao Scindia deserve to be congra- ing-rooms, toilets, etc., these things have tulated t"or excellent performance of the been discussed at length by my friends. railway departm-ent durins the Jast one We reatise the difficulties of the Ministers in yeae of their tenure. Last year there was handting this gigantic railway system which heavy overcrowding at railway stations is the second largest in the world and and peopJe used to board the trains with- which carry almost an Australia a day in out tickets. But there has been marked terms of passengers. StiJl I am trying to -improvement in the situation ever since put forward my views and suggestions for they look over. consideration.

Provision has been made for the Gwa- While new works' are taken tip, much 1ior-Sheopur narrow gauge railway line in is not attempted to remove the regional my constituency and it would help in the imbalances. This is the case with tllY development of the area. But I would State of KeraJa. Yet, J have to thank like to request that i.. this railway line is them for having allotted Rs. 4 lakhs this extended 50-60 kms. beyond sheopur, it year for improvement of the Railway would connect Shri Shanti Dhariwars Statio~ in my constituency .... constituency as well and thereby people of PROF. N. G. RANGA (Gnntur): both these areas will benefit. Which is tha t ?

The hon. Railway Minister is aware SHRI I. RAMA RAJ Kasargod that there is only one railway bridge on Railway Station. chambal river at Dhaulpur and if at any time it is in danger and cannot be used, it Sir, most of the Railway Stations be- will cause great inconvenience to the yond Shoranur upto Mangalore are the old passengers travelling to Madras and Bom- Railway Stations created (luring tbe Bri- bay. I would, therefore, request th.e Go- tish time. vernment to construct another railway bridge for the other railway line for the I am happy to know from the hon1. benefit of all. Besides, I want to submit Minister's spe'ech about the completion of that there is overcrowding in trains bet- survey from f..1angalore to Udipi, which is ween Agea and Jhansi. Therefore, if a adjoining my constituency, though in Shuttle service is introduced between these Karnataka, But I hope that the words of two stations it can be of great help to the Prof. Madhu Dandavate will not be true people of the area. in th:s case. Prof. Madhu Dandavate had said, if I remember correctly: "Where Sanchi Express which runs between there is a will, there is a Railway, but Indore and Delhi does not stop at Morena. where there is no will, there is only a Is this train is stopped for one or two surveyH. We in the northern part of minutes at Morena on its way to Delhi and Kerala have a lot of connection with back it can be useful to the people of my Mangalore. Due to lack of time, I do area. not go into details about the encouraging facts and figures furnished by the Railway With these words, I thank you for Minister. living me an opportunity to speak. With a view to raising revenue for [EnZllshl meeting· the massive development require- SHRI I. RAMA RAI (Kasara&9d): ment of this main mode of transport which Sir" while welcoming this Budget, let me is comparatively cheaper than road trans- . COlS8latulate the experienced and dynamic port, I ventuce to su~est, we have to put Transport Minimr and the bard-w.orkin, up shoppi.. ccntres~ - i uest houses ao4 311 MARCH 5, 1986 1986-17 ~12

[Sbri I. Rama Rai] suagest to construct one or two important railway over bridges by collecting toll hotels in the vast land possessed by the collections and mobilising funds in that Railways and thus create a permanent way. I suggest one such bridge to come source oi income at important locations. up at a place called Pilicode near Trikar- pur in my constituency. I want to apply One more point which many speakers your mind to connect distant corners of have not touched is the safety measures in the country with the country's capital. I which the Indian Railways lag behind. want to suggest that cutting the running Automatic Warning System is obligatory in time and at the same time speeding up the the sections where the speed of the train trains should be done; but the present is 80 kIns. per hour or even more as in railways which are not picking up time can countries like North America. But there provide good stoppings at some of the im- is inordinate delay in the provision of portant stations like a place called Pay- Automatic Warning System even on routes yanur in my constituency where a Naval where high speed train~ like the Rajdhani Academy is going to come up. Express are running. The major railway accidents result, apart from loss of preci- My State is denied of a Coach Factory ous human lives, in colossal loss of rail- at Palghat. One humble representation I way property costing crores of rupees. As would like to make to the hone Minister is far as my imformation goes, a diesel or that Kerala is haVIng a large number of electrjcs locomotive cost Rs. 1 crore; a bro- unemployed educated youth. In providine ad gauge passenger bogey costs about Rs. jobs in these factories, opportunities should 10 lakhs. Loss due to damage of the track, be given to the unemployed youths from all .ridees, signalling equipment, etc., is often parts of the country, whether the factory is much. Apart from financial loss, the in Pubjab or Kerala. The "Sons of the availability of rolling stock, including en- Soil" theory should not be encouraaed in aines is reduced which, in turn reduces the interest of the country's unity and in- productivity and earnings. \Ve have tegrity. also frequent cases of derailment of goods wagons due to 'hot -boxes', particularly on 'DR. DATT A SAMANT (Bombay the sections on which movement 01' heavy South Central) : I will talk regarding the commodities like coal or steel products raHway problems in Bombay. I think takes place. Such derailment not only about 25% revenue is coming from Bombay causes heavy loss due to damage of rolling to the Government. I am inviting the stock and track~ but it also. throws the Hon. Minister Shri Bansi Lal to come to entire traffic on the section out of gear and Bombay as our guest and not as a guest of aft"ects the safety of other trains. To get the Government. In Dadar, between 5 to immediate warning of a 'hot box', other 7 p.m. if he enters the train I will falicitate countries have been installing 'hot box de- him and garland him. teetors' extensively for the last several deeades. We have yet to progress in this I n the last 30 years the passenger po- field. pulation has gone up five times; but the Government and all our machinery could My friends have already touched about not manage even two time~ of it. The the recent running over of the t rain in average capacity of the train is 1800; but at which more than 27 people expired at lea~t 5000 to 6000 passengers travel sitting Tenieherry. on the roof of the train at the cost of their lives. On the line beyond Shornue upto M.angalor. a lot of over bridges are req- Bombay is developing like anything. uired. The public is in difficulty and have What is the attitude of the Government to take circuitous route in reaching their towards Bombay? I have talked many d,. tination which is on the other side of times in this House that though you are t,.. railway track. Paucity of fnnds stands getting Rs. 3000 crores revenue from Bom- in the way of construction of the railway bay, the Government is always negligent brid,.s. As an experimental measure I towards Bombay. Whatever you are ,oin. ~13 ' /lsi/way lJuJget, PHALGUNA 14, 1901 (SAKA) 1986-87

to spend for Bombay, you will get more The Railway Committee has recommended returns. That is the situation in the that this Mankhurd-BeJapur railway line is country. a must because Bombay is developing. I am not saying that Government may spend al1 I am suggesting some of the things. I this amount of Rs. 100 crores at one time. think, about ten lakh passengers travel Maharashtra Government is prepared to from Dadar area. One train n1ust ori- spend a good part of the amount. The ginate and terminate from Dadar. That whole expense will be on the Thane is the suggestion made by the Govern- Creek ~ and that revenue can be recovered ment's Committee. It can be easily done by taking some more tax from the public. at -the Iceland terminal where some buil- dings are being constructed. By spending Sir. I really feel sorry and I would like about Rs. 8 crores to Rs. 10 crores this to mention that the hon. Prime Minister arrangement should have been made long at the meeting at the Maidan in connec- back. There are a few more things which tion with the Centenary celebrations had I would ]ike to suggest. In the Western categorically promised to the public that he and Eastern suburban areas of Bombay, in will get completed this Mankhurd-BeJapur the harbour at BandTa there is already a project in this ye~r. This project has been crossing. Without spending anything, you pending for the last five years. In this can run a train through the Central Rail- year's budget you have sanctioned only ways, so that the whole cros~i ng load Rs. 10 lakh~. We are quite bitter on this towards Dadar can be reduced. Nobody issue. is prepared to consider such a simp1e thing! The second point I would like to mention is that the general recovery from any From Westend, Churchend to Central railway route is between 10-12 per cent Railway all load is coming to Dadar, from whereas if you lay this railway line the all the sides. From Bandra to Kurali the recovery wil1 be about 20 per cent. The whole land belongs to the Government. money which you will be spending on this You need not spend a single naya paisa railway line will get recovered in about for acquiring that land. I am making a 5-6 years. Even the Maharasbtra Govern- categorical statement. It is a 5 kms. dis- ment is prepared to contribute but if after tance. The only thing is that it is a such a promise given by the Prime Minister creek. So, by spending a few crores of to the 4 lakb people you are withdrawin. rupees that link can be done. The Govern- it, then I strongly protest against such type ment had never considered to do it from of things done by the Government. Bandra to Kurali.

There are certain other things, which There are two or three more points. In has already been said by hon. Member Bombay, at present the ticket fare between Gholap. We have already spent Rs. 50 two stations is one rupee. This is too crores on Diva-Vasai railway which is much. The distance between some of the existing for the last four years. Two goods railway stations is only 2,3 and 4 kilome- trains pass. That is used for the passen- ters. So, I request you to reduce it to 50 ler. Hon. Member Gholap also has said naya paise. While making it Rs. 1 the rea- Oft this issue. The whole load can be son given by the Government was that there transferred. was shortage of coins. Since there is no coin shortage at the moment let, it be made Another thing we are .quite bitter about 50 naya paise and multiple of SO naya is the Mankhurd-Belapur railways. It paise. That way you will be recoverina a is a 17 kms. railway. The Government lot of money from Bombay. Therefore, I has already given an assurance on this. suggest that 50 naya paise ticket should be The population of Belapur has already introduced. lone upto more than 10 lakhs. My next suagestion is that Carnac- All these coal depots, steel depots and Bunder goods depot should be taken over. markets are beioa shifted to new Bombay. This will help in expandin, the VT statie. Its". it6

Datta Samant] tDr. Country. But. Kany.akumari 15 discr.imina- by making the double platform. Some pri .. ted against and neglected in so far as vate ~ted interests are objecting to this. Railway net-work is concerned. Instead If that depot land is taken over, then dou- of providing more and more direct Express ele platform fur loading and unloading of - trains connecting various State capitals and die trains would be possible. The number other places with Kanyakumaci, the trains of rakes ia the trains can also be increased. which have hitherto been running from So, I request the Government to &onsider :K.anYakumari railway station have been the same. cancelled. In this way, injustice is done to Kanyakumari. Now, there are only two direct Express trains rUll11ing from Lastly, I would say that Dadar termi- Kany.ak umari, that is, 82 Kanya- nal is a must and should be implemented. kumari.. Bombay Jayanti Janata Express Altltougb I have a lot of other suggestions and Jammu-Ta\\'i Kanyakumari Himsagar to make concerning Railways, yet as the Express Train. Cannanore Express, tbat time at my disposal is 'short, I conclude by was, running between Kanyakuma-ri-Ca.n- saying that Bombay is becoming India as nanore and Island Express running between paiscngers from a II over India are coming Kanyakumari and Bangalore have been to Bombay and if you can make some jrn- stopped very recently, at Trivandrum. pt'ovcment then the returns will be fanta- Extension of Train Numbers 19 and 20, &tic. that is, Madras-Trivandrum Mail to SHRI N. DENNIS (Nagercoil): Sir, Kanyakumari has been notified in all the while supporting the Railway budget I want dailies in 1982 and included in the Railway to make some points. Responding to the Time-Tables too. But at the last minute, constraint of time, I am going straight to it was decided not to extend those trains tbe local problems. The most important upto Kanyakumari. Similarly, Sir, Assam- project that is catchjng the attention of TrivandruID and Ahmedabad-Trivandwn Tilmil Nadu is Karur-Dindikul-Tuticuran Super-fast trains which were scheduled to railway line. This time also the allotment run upto Kanyakumari, did not materia- lise. To promote national integration, fOf tllis railway line is very low. This is a matter of disappointment to the people it is very essential that Kanyakumari of Tamil Nadu. Several organisations and should be connected with more and more public have been submitting representations duect Express trains from different parts that this project be completed within a of our country. The distance from Trivan- short time but by this tone of allotment of drum to Kanyakumari is only 85 kilome- funds it will take even more than a decade tres.. Now, Kanyakumari terminus rema.. to complete- this vital project. Such enhan- ins under-utilsed for want of incoming ced allotment of funds has to be made for trains compared to Trivandrum Centrai this project. For the development of Tamil which is very much congested with passen- Nadu, Tuticuran port and neighbouring ger boggies, goods wagaons, engines, etc. backward areas the completion of this project is very important. Sir, trains 81 and 82 Kanyakumari .. Bombay Jayanti Janata and other Express Another point regarding my consti- trains should be stopped at Eraniel Station. tuency but of wide general interest is that This station is Jocated very close to Indian Kanyakumari has to be provided with more Rare Earth's factory, Manavalakurichy, nUlllber of direct Express trains. Now, Colachel harbour, Intern1itional Cancer there are only two Express trains starting Centre and the famous Neyyoor Hospital from Kanyakumari. and other thickly populated places. In Trivandrum Division, Tamil Na4u part of Sir, Kanyakumari is a very important it is discriminated against and nes)ccted. tourist centre where thousands of national High level platforms should be provided and international tourists are visiting daily. at Palliady, Veesani Aloor, Naprcoil To promote national integration, this place town, Su~hindrum, Tbamarakulam and sltDUJd be linked with more and more AgastNSWflrarD, ..atriel statio_. shotlJd be 'ap..... trains from different poin ts of the provided 'WIth. s.Meoti platform, PHALGUNA 14, Ito' (SA.KA)

Sir, I would again submit that discri- important aspect is tbat the Railways have minations is showp to this part of the been able to gain people's confidence dur- country in the allotment of reservation ing past few years because oftbe aU I'~nd quotas too and that quotas have to be development in the departllkDt. Feoct enhanced in the Kanyakamari, Nagercoil packed in aluminium foil bas bas been in- and Kuzhithurri Stations. I would, there- troduced in 14 trains and it bas beceme fore request the bon. Mini~ter to consider very popular. An increase of 23 per cent increasing the reservation quotas at these bas been registered in this regard. stations. The demand of the people of {Engli3h] this part of Trivandrum division for opening new stations or at least sub-stations This should be extended to every train, at Thengankuzhy, Parvatbipuram and specially to the Superfast trains. Ozhukinacherry in the Trivandrum-Kanya- [ Translation] k umari Railway line, has to be considered All these facIlities have been provided with early favourable orders. Develop- and the operational effeciency of railways ment and improvement work of Nagercoil has also improved, though the coaches Station which has been pending for a long are still old. lime should be taken up immediately and Our area is served by two the construction of staff qtlarters for the railway zones viz., the Northern railway employees also which has been Railway and Eastern Railway. IRCON pending for a long time has to be taken located in Anpara is functiooill8 up and executed very soon so that the smoothly. It has earned good profit and staff members are given the housing accom- saved precious foreign exchange. I t has modation. done construction work in IEaq alsD. Similarly, RITES, which is also a Railway- Sir, Colachel harbour should be linked undertaking has done commendable work with Railway line. Electric train service as compared to other Government Under- has to be put into operation between takings which are engaged in cODstru(;uOR Ernakulam and Kanyakumari as work. I am sure that the new climate the areas in between these two that has been created in the Railwa-ys win railway stations are thickly po- bring further improvement in its working. pulaled thereby quick movement of Mirzapur is an Adi"asi district and an passengers is possible. Sir, estahlishment ~ industrial area aiso. In view of limited of some raHway factory, either a coach resource I would suggest that some of the factory or Railway workshop may be trains should be extended. For instance, considered for Kanyakumari District which the train between Chandigarh and Hatia is a backward area in this part of the should be run daily because it links Chota country. With these words, I support the Nagpur and Mirzapur and it has been a Railway Budget. long s.tanding demand of tbe area. Besides, [ Trtllfu4JI; on] I demand that the passenger train running between Chopan-Chunar-Mirzapur be ex- saRI RAM PYARE PANIKA tended to Sbaktinagar which is 3-4 stations (RabertsganJ) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, t Sir, ahead of Chopan. This will not involve at the very outset, I would like to con- any additional expenditure whereas it will gratulate the hon. Transport Minister, the provide convenience to the Adivasi Railway Minister and the Railway Board workers working in that coal belt. for creating a record not only in goods . Similarly, the Gadwa-Chopan-Chunar traffic but in other areas as well, despi te passenger train should be extended our linllted resources. to Varanasi viti- Junathpur. You are- welJ aware that AlIahabad is overcrow- Remarkable work has been done in ded. Therefore, the Mabanagari Expc.eas the area of safety also. As a result of should be diverted to Katni .,ia Chunar this, the rate of accidents has declined by and Chopan. This would enable many 2.1 pi'-cent. Facilities have also been backward and industrial areas to be lioked created which would create confidence with Bombay. Similarly, the passe.aaer amona the people and they would' feel that train between Allahabad and Chua&!' sbouW iOod WOtk. is b~in~ done. Th~ glQst be ~l\"tc;ooed to V aranasi. This woQld .~ 31t MAR.CH 5. 1986 /986-87

[Sbri Ram Pya,ce Panika) on deputation so they do not work pro- satisfaction to the people and help in perly. They should be under the admini- increasing the railway revenue. Mirzapur strative control of the Railways. Tbe is an important industrial, cultural, histori- D.R.M. should have direct administrative cal and religious centre and so is Chunar. control over them. The private caterin, Tberefoee, except Rajdhani Express all the contracts should be terminated and instead trains which run between Delhi and How- departmental arrangement should be made. rab, should stop for at least two minutes at these places. This would benefit the There are a number of grievances in people and increase railway revenue, regard to the people belonging to the Renukot station is a big one but the shed Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes on the platform is very old. There is no in the Railways. You are an able and other shed at the station. This is causing strong Minister. If the quota in categories Ireat inconvenience to the people. There- I, II and III is not filled in your tenure, fore, two more sheds should be immediately then when will it be filled. The same con- constructed and terminal facility should dition is prevailing in regard to their pro- also be provided. The quota of reserved motion. I am not casting aspersions on seats from Renukot should be increased any official but I would lik.e to say that in all the classes viz.. first class, ACC, when the promotion of Scneduled Caste and second class because most of the and Scheduled Tribe employees falls due, passengers board the train at this station. their character roll is spoilt 6 months in The absence of a reasonable quota breeds advance. corruption. I also insist that sheds should be provided at Chopan and Robertsganj I would like to place before yOlJ a railway stations. The ARDM is stationed case of a tribal woman from Ranchi who at Chopan and in this connection I would is working in Delhi. Her promotion was like to say that because of some dispute due. Adverse entry was made in her between singrauli and Chopan a division character roll. She- was to be conveyed could not be opened at Chopan despite alJ these remarks in April but they were Con- the facilities being available. veyed to her much earlier. As per the remarks made in the character roll she [Enzlish] should have been dismissed. This is the condition prevai1ing there. I would like Infrastructure has already been created to demand that quota in every category in in Chopan. Land has already been respect of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled acquired. Tribes should be filled and the rules feamed by the Home Ministry or your [Tr.nslillion] Ministry should be followed strictly. Buildinas have also been constructed. The Railways have made proaress in This would not involve any major expendi- every sphere. That is why the opposition ture but on the other hand a lot of impro- has nothing to say. I still remember the vement will be brought about in the Rail- reaction of Prof. Madhu Dandavate. I ways. Mughalsarai and Dhanbad bear recall that during his tenure the Railways much burden of the Railway traffic. As were experiencing shortage of coal and the such it is necessary to open a division at functioning of the management had became Chopan. The A.D.R.M. should be repla- unsatisfactory. Today we can say with ced by D.R.M. In the absence of D.R.M. pride that the performance of the Railways a Jot of administrative difficulties arise. is far better. Anything can be said for The incidence of ticketless travelling bet- the sake of criticism. The people of India ween Chopan and Gadwa is very high. "It are very happy with the Railways. I should be checked with a firm hand. would like to express my thanks for it. The fares uanted the Proper security arrangenlents should be concession in to made for the running staff like conductors youth upto 250 kilometres should be extended upto 500 kilometes. The relbrva- and T.T.E. The Railway Protection Force is, of course, there but they do not extend tion char~es for the: se:cond cJ,ss s.bQuld be redl,lc~d, tile requit~4 ~oope~atiQ"Q. A~ the¥ are 321 PHAUJUNA 14, 1907 (SJ4KAj 19'6-11

·SHRI OOPAL' KRISHNA THOTA are developing industrially. ThouPt tb. (Kakinada): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Express trains like 4S Up and 46 DOWD evenincc India became independent in the run through this route, they do not halt year 1947, the Indian Railways had been at these towns. People in these towns incurring losses year after year. It is a have been requesting the railway authori- well known fact. But in recent days the ties to introduce a fast passenaer traiD situation seems to be somewhat improv. between Kakinada and Visakhapatnam. ina. Public sector undertakings under the But so far no such train haa been intro.. manaaement of Railways like Indian Rail- duced so far. Hence I request the hOD. way Construction Company and Rail Minister to intervene. in this matter and Iudia Technical and Economic SerVices, see ihat a fast passenaer train is sooo in- popularly known as IRCON and RITES, troduced between Kakinada and Visakba- are doing exceptionalJy well. They arc patnam. eRmin. substantial foreign exchange for us. AI.eria, Cuba, Ghana and Iraq have been Sir, Kaki-Kotipalli line was in opera- bene1ltted by the services of these orlani- tion during pre-war days. But it has sations. become a deadline subsequently. KakiDada is a port town. Fish and other m.riJ'lC~ The reputation of Indian Railways is products are exported from her•• Hence quite hi&h abroad. But it is unfortunate revivina the Kakinada-Kotipalli line will to note that the Railways have not been go a long way to meet the neeci3 of the farinl well within the country. A lot has people in this area and also &.lve a boost to be done by the Railways to earn the to our exports. I hope the hone Minister aoodwilJ of the people. Railways have will take steps to revive this line. responsibility of providin, better services to the people. In my State, Andhra Pra- Yenam, a part of Pondieherry UniOD desh there are many stations which do not Territory is in Andhra Pradesh. It i. very have covered platforms. There is no near to Kakinada. Yenam "is predomine- shelter for the people who are exposed to ntly a Telugu area. But there is no rail- the unbearable heat in summer and also to way link between Kakinada and Yenam downpour in the rainy season. The ex- or to any other town in my State. I take • penditure involved in having covered plat- this opportunity to request the Govern- forms will not be much and so, the Rail- ment to merge Yenam with Andhra ways should provide t hem as early as Pradesh or provide a railway link. possible. Many people belonging to Northern part of Andhra Pradesh. comprisina of Kakinada is fast becoming an industrial Srikakulam, Vizianagaram~ Visakhapat- centre. Two major fertilizer factories are nam, the East and West Godavari districts under £onstruction there. Besides, the come to New Delhi every day. There is Government are taking all steps to convert no direct train from this area to New Kak.inada into a major port. Such an Delhi. There has been a long standiq important town like this is not connected demand from the people to introduce an with the main Railway line. This town Express train from Visakhapatnam to Now can be linked with the main hne by cons- Delhi via Vljayawada. But notbina bas tructina just 5 Kms. long track. I request been done to introduce the train so far. the hone Minister to link Kakinada with main line by constructin& a S~K.m. line im- PROF. N. G. RANGA : Via Vijaya- Dlociiatcly. It will benefit business men and wada. thousands of other. SHRI THOTA GOPALA KRISHNA: Sir, there are many smaller towns Yes, Sir, Via Vijayawada. So, I request betweeD Visakhapatnam and Kakinada. the hone Minister to take steps to introduce These towns arc business centres and also an Express train between Visakhapamam and New Delhi via Vijayawada immedia- -The Spee<;b was ori,inan~ 4~li'leted in tely for the benefit of the ~ClO\)k \from ,:rel~ ~ ottbetn Alldhra 'Pradesh .. -.-, ..- .•. - . -, ."~~;-':~~::.~ i"'.--l"t.'" \ 10°.';"',

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'I 11 [Shri Thota Gopala K rishna] Government would accelerate the pace of \ Sir, now we have three types of loco- development and would follow this poticy.; motives namely steam, diesel and electric Does the Railway Department thank tbat locomotives in operation. But the electric people will travel in the passenger trains- locomotion is the cheapest. Hence effort .and not in express and mail train becauso should be made to electrify all the routes the fares of the express and the mail in the country. I request the hon. Minis- trains have been increased? If the peopl, ter to take up electrification of Vijaya- of Patna want to see the hon. Railway I' wada- Visakhapatnarn line. on priority Minister. they will have to pay more far. basis. and sleeper charges. Therefore. I would request the hon, Railway Minister' to Waltair comes under South Eastern reduce the sleeper charges. i, Railways. I request that Waltair may be broughtunder South Central Railway. Sir, Bihar has a number of srievances in regard to the railways. The people of Finally 1 request the hon, Minister to Bihar arc looking most eagerly to the Rail. take steps to provide a circular railway in way Department for solving their Hyderabad city. problems. The Railway Department may be aware of the agitation that took place Sir. I do not support this budget. I in North Bihar. There has been demand conclude my speech thanking you for for. a, long time for the construction of ' giving this opportunity to speak. bridge across the Ganga fIver. It is very necessary for the development of North (Translation) and South Bihar. I would request the hon. Minister to take up the matter on priority SHRI C. P. THAKUR (Patna): Mr. basis. The Ganga-Cauvery Express and Deputy Speaker. Sir, I would like to the Mahanagari Express should be extend- . congratulate the hon. Railway Minister ed upto Pat na. The industrialists of for converting the deficit Budget into a Bombay and Madras do not want to set surplus one. This proves that if proper up industries in Bihar because no proper attention is paid towards the public Sector train service is available. Railway cross- it can yield results. Out of the gross ings should be constructed at Ranipur revenue of Rs. 980 crores shown by the Khirki, Begampur and Bankaghat. The Railway Department in the Budget.. half people of Ranipur Khirkl have been agita- of it has accrued from the increase in the ting in, support of their demand since freight rates and the rest is the result 1952. This work should, therefore, be of the efficiency of the Department. Had taken up at the earliest. Railway cross- more attention been paid towards efficiency ings should be provided at Patna, Gaya there would not have been the necessity of and Kurthol railway line. A large segment increastng freight. If the Railways take of Eastern Railway lies in Bihar but its more safety measures to ensure the safety headquartcr is not situated there. It is of life and property of the passengers. if necessary for the development of Bihar incidence of theft and pilferage is checked, that the hcadquarter of Eastern Railway if trains run on time and if more facilities should be established in Patna. The main are given to passenger then the practice of line between Mughalsarai and Asansol converting the deficit Budget into a surplus should be electrified at the earliest, Jamal- one by resorting to increase in freight pur Engineering Institute is in existence rates will come to an end. The Railway since the time of Britisher s. The graduates Departmen t has also shown that the num- of this Institute used to be recruited in ber of accidents has been reduced this year. the Railway Service. Graduates of this Wh'le presenting the Budget before Parlia- Institute also became Members of ment, it should have been mentioned that the Railway Board. The Railway Depart- it is a statistically significant number. By ment is going to close it. That college merely giving a number, it is not possible should be reopened and the workshop to make out anything. Some days back should be modernised. The graduates our Prime Minister had said during the turned out by this Inst itute used to be Congress Ceutenarv Celebrations that \etl y able- and 3•• such it is necessarv lC\ PHALGUNA 14. 1907 (SII.KA) 316

open this college. Certain railway lines Shrimati Indira Gandhi hod Jaid the foun- are very necessary for the development of dation stone of this bridge and at that· Bihar namely: Jasidih-Rampurhat vl« " time the cost of its. construction was e.ri. Dumka railway line, Darbhanga -Samas- mated to be Rs, 61 crores. .Out of it, the tipur broad gauge railway line; a passe?ser Bihar Government had to contribute Re. train should again be started from Dlgha 7.S crores and the Uttar Pradesh Govern- to Patna; Fatwa.lslampur and Arrab-Sasa- ment had (0 contribute Rs, 10.' croteR. ram light railway line should be converted To my knowledge. the Chief .Ministers Or into broad sauge line and commissioned; to both the States have made provision for establish rail link between Sakari-Hasanpur- it in their respective Budgets. I would, Muzaffarpur- Sitamarhi; to link the district therefore, request the hon, Railway head-quarter with Chota Nagpur; to provi- . Minister that when tho state Government. de waiting rooms at Hazaribagh, Dumka, of Uttar Pradesh and Bihar have agreed Gi;idib, Ranchi & Duba stations of North- to contribute their respective shares for Eastern Railway for the facility of passen- this important project and have -also gers; and to complete the Barw.adi~ .. made provision therefor in their respective IS :1 Sarnadih (Sarguja) railway line which budgets, the Railway Minister should bave incomplete. A newspaper has published an made the necessary allocation :in thi~. article on this Subject : financial year for it. It is also because Oulam Bhara: kllldlJuri rail yojana the area is very backward and this is! the azad IJharat metn dam /0. h raltl ha; only means to connect North Bibar and the East Uttar Pradesh with Nepal. Except (Incomplete rail project of the p1'C- this there is no other road or any other independent India is languishing in free means of communication. There is no India) I would request the hon. Railway other bridge on Gandak river. Therefore, Minister to expeidite the construction of keeping in view the importance of the the railway bridge in Patna. With these project, 1emphatically demand from th words I conclude. hen. Railway Minister that atten ticn must be paid towards this. I had SHRI MANOJ PANDY (Beuiahj : raised this issue in the Consulta- Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise to support tive Committee of Ministry of Railways the Railway Budget for 1986-87. The also and an assurance was given to me Railway Minister deserves our thanks for that if both the State Governments alree te presenting a rational. Budget this y~ar contribute their shares, necessary provision showing his farsightedness. I would like can be made. I would, therefore, request to draw the attention of the hon. Minister that when both the State Governments arc through you to the North-Eastern Rail- ready to pay their shares. the Railways way. A number of members have spoken should also come forward to contribute about the Bagaha-Chhittauni railway their share. bridge project prior to me. At page S6 of the booklet, Machinery works 1986-87 Secondly, I want to draw your atten- part-I, supplied to us it has been mention- tion towards negligence being shown to th_ ed that about Rs. 4.50 er ores ha ••e been railway doctors. Nowadays doctors are spent in the laying of 28.41 kilometre rail- appointed in the Railways on ad hoc basis. way line under Bagaha Chhittauni rait Sir. I am myself a doctor and in this link restoration programme lInd last year august House many doctors both from Op- a. provision of only Rs, one thousand was position Parties and from this Party have' made for it and this year also only Rs. been elected as Members and we all are of one thousand have been provided for it. the same opinion that the salaries paid to the ad hoc doctors in the Railways are a Our area is a junction of eastern matter of shame for all of us. As com- Uttar Pradesh, north Bihar and Nepal. pared to other doctors they are paid very l'he Gandak river flows through it. There less and it will not be an exaggeration if I :, a distance of 28.41 kilometres between say that Railways doctors are being exploi- ':,agaha and Chhittauni for which you have ted. I also regret that not a single word n ad e such a meagre provision. In the has bee n said in this retard by any (If tJ:14 ear 1973·7-1 (he late Prime Mild'>l,,!" 327 MARCil 5. 1916 19U-'7

{Sbri Manoj PandY1 .SHRI KADAMBUR JANAR.- THANAN : For the Karur-Dindiaul-Tuti- Miniater to date. It is a very wrong thinl. corin broad gauae line. Therefore, I S\lb- There is a separate enaineerina section in mit that the people of Tamil Nadu are of the Railways and at one place you have the opinion that as we are not demandiq written tbat you have 107 hospitals, the more funds from the Central Government, bigest cancer institute, the best open heart with fuB pressure, the Central Govern.. suraery hospital. With such good facili~ies ment is hesitating to allot adequate lullds If doctors are exploited, tben I would lIke for the long pending project. Even last to know whether tbis has been brouaht to year you have allotted only Rs. 3 crores your notice that the doctors are appointed and in the supplementary budlet you have gO ad hoc basis. It is a very important allotted Rs. 1.3. crores just to keep tbe matter. More than SSO persons went to project alive. I am sorry to submit that it UPSC and held demonstrations there and ~ the pace of allotment of funds continues only then some regular appointments w~re like this it will take us up to 2000 AD for made. But Sir, it has come to our notice the project to be completed. I, therefore, that in that appointment also these people submit that this aUotment of B.s. 3 .• have not been protected. Will the doctors crores is very meagre, that too in this .Ito have put in 10 to 15 y.ears service in surplus budget. It therefore, request tbe .. hllc capacity be able to pt servic~ any- hon. Minister to allot not less than Rs. 25 wbere else at the ale of 40 or 4S ? It t~ere crores so that this important railway co- fere, demand from you that some lenIency mmunicating line can be completed, be- slleuld be shown to them also se that they Cause it will boost the industrial arowth too can say that they are railway e~p and also thereby help in solvina the employees. It is beyond my comprehensIon loyment problem of Tamil Nadu. why you favour the engineers and ignore the doctors. Sir, after the flood havoc in November Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, Muzaft"arpur- at Madras, the whole traffic in TamiJ Nadu is jeopardised. Fifty per cent of the Bapa and MuzafJ'erpur-Raxaul lines ~re metre puge lines. Survey for converting express trains, important express trains -th~m into broad aauge lines has been com- like the Vaigai Express, Pallavan Express pleted. Therefore, throuah you I request and Sethl1 Express, as also the Janata Ex- tbe bon. Minister that he may study the press have not been running yet. This is • survey reports for these two lines and pro- causing a great difficulty for the entire vide us the broad puae line. Thanks. travelling public of Tamil Nadu. At the same time, I have also to mention that the private bus operators are hiking up their [Bn,II#h} fares, and thus causing some more hard- SHRI KADAMBUR JANAR- ship to the public. THANAN (Tirunelveli): Mr. Depu~y In the Madurai Division, from Tuti- Speaker, I tbank you for th~ op.portunlty corin to Madurai, only passenger trains aiven to me for taking part In thIs debate are running. on the Railway Budget. Let me thank the hon. Minister for not increasing the frei- From Page 13 0'" tho Railway Minister, ,ht charles and also the passenger fares. budget speech, it is secn--from the first three lines--that he has slightly increased I have to inform the hone Minister the mail and express train fares, so that throuah you, Sir, that we the Members. of passengers travelling for shorter distances Parliament trom Tanlil Nadu, are recelv- may choose to 10 by road, or travel by ina wires from various parts of Tamil passenger trains, leaving more accommo- Nadu to pressurise the Central Govern- dation for long d:stance passengers. But at . mcnt {or ensuring allotment of more funds the same time, only one passeoacr train is for the Karur.. Dindilul-Tuticorin broad runnina through all the 21 stations of puae line. Madurai Division from Tirunc)veli to Madurai and from Tuticorin to ),Iadurai. r!lOF .. N ..O. RANOA ~ Which linc? u,p an4 down. You can very w~l iaqinc ,. Railway Budget, PHAtOUNA 14, 190' (SAKA) ~ 1986-87 330

the plight of hundreds of villagers who Palcode to Bangalore. I request the Mini- travel between these twenty·one stations. ster to take up construction of broad~ It is, therefore, high time that the railway gause line on this route immediately. administration starts running another passenger train during the day time from I also suggest that the time table Tuticorin to Madurai. should be prepared in consultation with the DRUC Committee. Now, they ar_ Even in the pre-independence days, we changing the time table according to their were having--when I was a student tra- own whims and fancies. That should not be done. velling on season tickets--three trains, the Shencota passenger that is, the Janata To reduce ticketless travelling, those passenger, Madurai-Shelfcota passenger ticket examiners in whose period the and also the Tuticorin-Coimbatore passenger. Now, only one passenger train is ticket travelling is less, should be glven in- centive and promotion. running throughout the year. Our repeated representations--in writting--to the Even after my making a statement Railway Minister have not yielded any under rule 377 three months back, Vaigai. fruit so far. Therefore, I request the hon. Pallavan, Seihia and Janata Expresses arc thi~ Minister to look into matter. not running. I request the hone Minister very humbly that at least within April, Also, the doubling of Villupuram to before I go to my constituency, these Egmore is very important and unless that trains ~hould be re-start ed. is done the bottlenecks in the way will not be cleared and the traffic in Tamil Nadu [Tra"s/at iOIl] will not be improved. SHRI LAL VIJAY PRATAP SINGH Further, I request the hone R..lilway (Sarguja) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I Minister to consider a new Ji ne froll1 support the Budget presented by the han. Milav.i.ttan to Tirunelveli. At ~he moment Minister. only goods traffic is running on the line. If passenger trains also start running on This Budget will benefit more than 90 the. line, it will be helpful to passengers to per cent people because it has taken care get the Kanyakumari line. Even after run- of all the facilities. Whatever praises are ning of goods train for the last eight showered will be inadequate. months, the passenger train has not run on that line so rar. So far as facilities are concerned, wbe· ther they relate to reservation-which h<-ts PROF. N.G. RANGA: How Inany been streamlined through computerisation-- , kilometres ? or better meals-which is now provided hot in casserole ;:,~cks-or checking of SHRI KADAMBUR JANAR~ ticketless travelling, taking security mea· THANAN : 53 kms only and the line is sures or providing special quarters and already there. This line is used only for hospitals to railway employees, all have two big industries-India Cements Ltd. been taken care of in the Budget. and Southern Petro Chemical Industries. And it is not used for the people of my 18.00 hrs. constituency. Therefore, I request the han. Minister to use that line for the people of You will observe that railways are the my constituency also. lifeline of development. Wherever there has been deveJopmen t, good expansion of There should be a broad-gauge line railways has taken place there. In this from Salem to Bangalore and also fronl age, the: re has been no development of the Pondicherry to Bangalore. Already there areas where the railways have not reached. is a metre-gauge line from Pondicherry to In this era, it is difficult to think of deve- Tirunelvelli. That reqL1ires conversion into lopment without railways. I know that broad-gauge. There is already a survey of huge funds are required for the develop- Tifunelvelli-Tirupattur via Krishnagiri, ment of railways. The funds expec ted to '31 MAttCH 5, 19S' tic JDQbiIisocl throuah internal rcsot.ll'ccs distance will be reduced by 200 to 300 aDd buWic borrowings for cxpaasWn of the kms. railway liDes apparently seem to be adequate but if we look at them with a prag- Sir, you know that becalMe of lack of matic Wew, these funds are not adequate. funds, many schemos remain un impI emeJtt- May be those are my personal views but I ed. The matters which I want to briaa to consider those funds quite inadequate. the notice of the hon. Minister will not involve significant financial implication. If Sir, you are aware that the Railways the departure timings of the 407 tram are have their network of trains in an area of advanced by two holK's then our people more than 62 thousands kms. For such a will have connecting means of transport Jauae department it is difficult to maintain in Anuppur an.d Katni to go to all tbe proper control with such a small amount. directions and as a result our area will be In view of this, more funds should be adequately developed and if a boaie UQIll alJocated for this Department. If my one Vishrampur to Nizamuddin is added to submission is acceded to that in my area the Kalinga Express, people will be NZ Ambekapur, which is a very backward much benefited. &1"08~ raUway lines should be expanded, I can say witb certainty that this backward With these words, I support the area will be amply developed. You are Railways Budget. aware that tbe survey work of Vishrampur- Barvadib had been completed in 1984 but I8.0J hrl. there has been no progress in this regard. If this railway line is constructed, our dis- The Lok Sabha then Qdjourned till Eleven trict headquarter will be covered by it. It of the Clock on Thur, day, Marcil 6, will in itself be a big achievement a nd the 191i6/Phal,unQ 15, 1997 (Soka).

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