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South Atlantic Fishery Management Council SOUTH ATLANTIC FISHERY MANAGEMENT COUNCIL SNAPPER GROUPER ADVISORY PANEL Webinar November 4-6, 2020 TRANSCRIPT AP MEMBERS James Hull, Chair Robert Lorenz, Vice Chair Randy Beardsley Vincent Bonura Richen Brame Tony Constant Jack Cox Andrew Fish Robert Freeman Richard Gomez Lawton Howard Rusty Hudson Todd Kellison Chris Kimrey Andrew Mahoney Randy McKinley Chris Militello Harry Morales David Moss Fentress Munden James Paskiewicz Dave Snyder COUNCIL MEMBERS Mel Bell Chris Conklin Tim Griner Kerry Marhefka Jessica McCawley COUNCIL STAFF Myra Brouwer Julia Byrd Cindy Chaya Dr. Brian Cheuvront Dr. Chip Collier Dr. Mike Errigo John Hadley BeBe Dalton Harrison Kathleen Howington Allie Iberle Kim Iverson Cameron Rhodes Dr. Michael Schmidtke Suz Thomas Christina Wiegand OBSERVERS/PARTICIPANTS Rick DeVictor Other observers and participants attached. Snapper Grouper AP November 4-6, 2020 Webinar 2 Snapper Grouper AP November 4-6, 2020 Webinar The Snrapper Grouper Advisory Panel of the South Atlantic Fishery Management Council convened via webinar on November 4, 2020 and was called to order by Chairman Jimmy Hull. MR. HULL: I want to welcome everybody to this Snapper Grouper AP meeting. As you’ve seen, we have a full agenda to go through and cover, and I ask that everyone give it their full attention and be concise in your comments, so we can get through everything. The council staff has done an outstanding job preparing the agenda, and the council has asked for specific input from us on many of these topics, and so I think, Myra, would this be a good time to invite public comment? MS. BROUWER: We probably should approve the agenda, and the minutes are not yet available, and, yes, maybe we can do public comment and then allow Jessica to address the AP. MR. HULL: Okay. Let’s move with the approval of the agenda. If there’s no objection to the agenda, then it will be approved. Is there any objections to the agenda as provided? I don’t see anything, and so the agenda is approved. At this time, I would like to provide an opportunity for public comment from other than AP members, if there anyone attending that would like to provide comment. You can raise your hand or unmute yourself and speak. I don’t see anything, Myra. MS. BROUWER: I don’t either, Jimmy. If you don’t mind, I wanted to just point out that we did receive a comment on the online form for the AP, and that was a comment submitted by Chris McCaffity, and, as you all know, the link to that form is on the website, and there’s a place where you can submit comments and read the public comments, and so I would invite you to do that at some point, but just know that that’s there. MR. HULL: Right on. Thank you for that. I would like to remind the AP members that you raise your hand, and you will be seen in the order that you raise your hands. Also, when we do get to motions, the motions are going to be approved by consensus, and so, when we have these motions down the road, if you have opposition to the motion, then you need to raise your hand. If not, then these motions are going to be approved by consensus. At that point, I believe it’s back to you, Myra. MS. BROUWER: Thanks, Jimmy, and I was going to pull up a very quick update from Jessica McCawley, the Snapper Grouper Committee Chair, who is going to address the AP briefly. MS. MCCAWLEY: Thank you, Myra, and thank you, Jimmy. I just have a couple of slides here for folks. I am going to try to be here for the whole meeting, and I might have to step in and out, and so, if you guys have questions throughout the week, I can certainly try to answer it, and I think there might be a couple other council members on the line, like Chris maybe, and he can answer things as well. Just some items that the AP had been asking about, and I wanted to give you guys a couple of updates, and so the council saw some information about the status of the commercial electronic logbook, and I know that’s really important to you guys. We got this update in September, and no real target completion date was given, and so I just feel like we don’t have a lot of additional information at this point, unfortunately. Also, the private recreational permit and reporting amendment, also known as Amendment 46, this has been an amendment that you guys have been asking about for a long time, and it was one of 3 Snapper Grouper AP November 4-6, 2020 Webinar the amendments that the council worked on, and then it really hadn’t made it back to the top of the list for the prioritization, but, at the September council meeting, it was decided that there would be an all-day webinar, and this is scheduled for Monday, November 12, where we’re going to talk about recreational items, and particularly dig down into this Amendment 46, and so I wanted to let you guys know, and I know you’ve been asking about it, and it is coming back. The council has been doing some of these half-day or all-day webinars, so that we can get a lot of additional background information that we usually don’t have time for during regular council meeting weeks, and so we’re excited to talk about this, and I know it was something that was important to you guys. Thirdly, the modification of the shallow-water grouper closure, and I believe that you guys have talked about this in the past, and this might come up when the council discusses the results of the gag grouper stock assessment, and I know you guys were also recommending a ten-year review of this closure, and so this might be coming on the horizon. You guys had also asked about additional information on discard mortality of triggerfish, and this has been delayed, due to the pandemic, and then so all three of these items have been delayed from the pandemic as well, and so updates from the Southeast Reef Fish Survey, artificial reef project updates, and this is about -- Particularly, guys were asking about the performance of reefs off of South Carolina and then obtaining a refresher on feedback obtained during the 2014 visioning port meetings, and I would say that all of these have been delayed because of the pandemic. MARMAP is not running, and there’s a lot of other things that are happening. There’s some things happening with MRIP and other studies because of where we are with the virus, and so I just wanted to give you guys this short PowerPoint that Myra had made. I will be here all week to try to answer questions, and I’m really looking forward to the discussion. Thank you, guys, so much for taking time out to talk about these issues that are really important for the council, and we really appreciate your input. Thank you, Jimmy, and thank you, Myra. MS. BROUWER: Thanks, Jessica. MR. HULL: Okay. Thank you for that, Jessica. That was very informative, and I appreciate that, and I’m glad that you’re here online with us. It looks like we’re going to move right into the update on recent regulations and amendments. MS. BROUWER: Looks good. Thank you, Jimmy. This is something that we try to do at every AP meeting. We try not to take too much time, but give everybody an update on where we are on recent amendments that have been submitted to the National Marine Fisheries Service for review and approval and things that are in the works, and so I just want to give everybody an update, and we know we have several new AP members, and we’re just making sure that everybody is up-to- speed on what the council has been doing. The first one is the red snapper amendment, the modification to the recreational season, and so this got started back in March of 2019, and the council began talking about perhaps modifying the days of the week that were open to red snapper recreational harvest, starting in 2020, to maximize fishing opportunity, and they also talked about maybe changing the start date of the recreational 4 Snapper Grouper AP November 4-6, 2020 Webinar harvest, the recreational season, and the commercial season, and removing that minimum number of days for a season to take place. Before this amendment was developed, there was a threshold that, if the National Marine Fisheries Service determined that the season was three days or less, then there would not be a recreational season, and so the council held public hearings in August of 2019, and then, in September, they reviewed those comments, and then they chose to only go forward with an action to remove that minimum number of days, and, of course, that only affects the recreational sector. The council approved the amendment in December of last year, and then, as you know, in the spring of 2020, we got word that the National Marine Fisheries Service had established that the season for this year was going to be four days, and so the amendment went through the rulemaking process, and it was finally approved, and a final rule was published on October 13. Theoretically, what this means is that, if next year, let’s say, there is an indication that the season needs to be shortened, there could potentially be less than a three-day season for red snapper, and that is now allowed, any possibility.
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