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Monday Volume 594 23 March 2015 No. 130 HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICIAL REPORT PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES (HANSARD) Monday 23 March 2015 £5·00 © Parliamentary Copyright House of Commons 2015 This publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 1097 23 MARCH 2015 1098 190,000. Rather than all this waffle, why will she not House of Commons finally admit that her record at the Home Office is one of complete failure in that area and a series of broken Monday 23 March 2015 promises? Mrs May: As I said in response to the hon. Member The House met at half-past Two o’clock for Stockton North (Alex Cunningham), I fully accept that we have not met the net migration target that we set, but we have tightened every route into the United PRAYERS Kingdom from outside the European Union, and we have said clearly what a Conservative Government would [MR SPEAKER in the Chair] do to deal with free movement from the European Union. I say once again that it ill behoves the Labour party to make such comments, because in government it presided over uncontrolled mass immigration that had Oral Answers to Questions the impact of keeping incomes at the lower end of the scale down and was identified by its own policy guru as a 21st century wages and incomes policy. HOME DEPARTMENT Philip Davies (Shipley) (Con): The public certainly want immigration to be properly controlled, and far The Secretary of State was asked— better controlled than it is at the moment, but they also want some honestly about immigration. Is not the fact Migration of the matter that while we remain in the EU with free movement of people we cannot guarantee how many 1. Alex Cunningham (Stockton North) (Lab): What people will come to this country, so we should not be her policy is on the net migration target; and if she will making promises that we are in no position to keep? Is make a statement. [908227] not the fact of the matter that we cannot control the number of people coming to this country while we 9. Mr John Spellar (Warley) (Lab): What her policy is remain in the EU? on the net migration target; and if she will make a statement. [908236] Mrs May: My hon. Friend is right to identify the significant increase in the number of people coming to The Secretary of State for the Home Department this country from inside the European Union as the key (Mrs Theresa May): Uncontrolled mass immigration reason we have failed to meet our net migration target. increases pressure on public services and can drive However, crucially, not only has the coalition already down wages for people on low incomes. That is why we taken steps to tighten up on movement from inside the are committed to reducing net migration. Where we can European Union—for example, by reducing access to control immigration, our policies are working; we have benefits—but the Conservative party has clearly set out reduced non-EU immigration, raised the standards required what we would do in government after the election to come here and clamped down on abuse. Without our to deal with free movement and tighten up further to efforts, met migration would have been far higher. reduce migration from inside the European Union. Alex Cunningham: But net migration is much higher Mr David Nuttall (Bury North) (Con): Does the now than it was when the Conservatives came to power— Home Secretary recognise the sense of grievance felt by 54,000 higher. It now stands at more than 300,000, citizens of Commonwealth countries who for years which is more than double their target. Is the Home have abided by the rules when trying to get into this Secretary trying to take the public for fools by suggesting country as immigrants, only to see EU citizens being that her party will repeat its broken promise to cut able simply to walk in and out of the country at will? migration drastically? Mrs May: My hon. Friend makes a point about Mrs May: I have been very clear that of course we Commonwealth citizens, many of whom have come to have not met the net migration target we set, but I have the United Kingdom and contributed greatly. We are to say to the hon. Gentleman that this Government clear that we want to tighten the rules on people coming have clamped down on abuse—860 bogus colleges can from inside the European Union, particularly in relation no longer bring in overseas students—and tightened to the ability to claim benefits, which I believe will have every route into the UK from outside the EU, and we an impact on the number of people coming here, but in have set out clear plans for what a Conservative Government order to do that we need a Conservative Government to would do to deal with free movement. We on the be elected on 7 May. Government Benches will take no lessons from a Labour party that allowed uncontrolled mass immigration. Mr David Hanson (Delyn) (Lab): Could the Home Secretary bring herself to say the words, “Net migration Mr Spellar: Contrary to that reply, is not the reality is 54,000 higher than when Labour left office”? Could that the Home Secretary is leaving office with net migration she stand at the Dispatch Box and say that today—not higher than when she arrived, because it now stands at tens of thousands, as she promised—and could she say 298,000? She claims she has cut migration from outside to the House with no ifs and no buts that she has the EU, and that is true: it is down from 196,000 to broken her promise made at the election? 1099 Oral Answers23 MARCH 2015 Oral Answers 1100 Mrs May: The right hon. Gentleman’s question is the James Brokenshire: This Government have invested third that I am answering from Labour Members. In heavily in capabilities to deal with cybercrime through response to the first two, I said clearly that the Government the establishment of the new cybercrime unit in the have not met their net migration target. I am not trying National Crime Agency and the work of police forces to claim that we have; I am very clear about the fact throughout the country to ensure that we have the that we have not met our net migration target, but digital forensics—the digital information to fight the this Government have recognised the significance of new crime types. The hon. Gentleman clearly does not immigration as an issue, and the impact that it has on recognise the important achievements of this Government public services and wages at the lower end of the in cutting crime, at a time of having to save money to income scale, and it is this Government who are doing deal with the deficit that we inherited from Labour. something about it. Anti-radicalisation Programmes Communications Data 3. Mr Jim Cunningham (Coventry South) (Lab): If 2. Justin Tomlinson (North Swindon) (Con): What she will conduct a review of the effectiveness of assessment she has made of the risks to the UK from anti-radicalisation programmes. [908230] gaps in communications data capability. [908229] The Secretary of State for the Home Department The Minister for Security and Immigration (James (Mrs Theresa May): We continually monitor and evaluate Brokenshire): Our law enforcement and intelligence agencies the Channel programme to ensure its effectiveness. Through continue to face a decline in their ability to obtain the the Counter-Terrorism and Security Act 2015 we have communications data they need. This is caused by the placed the programme on a statutory basis. The duty use of modern technology and changes in the way in aims to secure local co-operation and delivery in all which people communicate. We believe that further areas and we, of course, work closely with international changes to the law are needed to maintain capabilities. partners to make sure that we are sharing expertise and We cannot let cyberspace become a haven for terrorists best practice in tackling extremism and radicalisation. I and criminals. have today published the latest annual report on our counter-terrorism strategy, Contest, alongside the annual report on the serious and organised crime strategy, and Justin Tomlinson: Can my hon. Friend assure me copies of both reports will be made available in the Vote that the next Conservative Government will introduce Office. the appropriate legislation to restore our declining communications data capability? Mr Cunningham: How many people returning from Syria have gone through the deradicalisation programme, James Brokenshire: It is very clear that although this and how many people in total have gone through that Government have taken some steps to close the gap, programme? significant gaps remain. The Joint Committee on the draft Communications Data Bill identified that, but we Mrs May: More than 2,000 people have gone through have not been able to bring those measures through in Channel since it was rolled out nationally in 2012, and this Parliament. We need to remedy that. Given that hundreds have been offered support. This is dealt with about 95% of serious crime cases involve the use of case by case. It is not appropriate for everybody to be communications data, those measures are an essential put into the Channel programme, but it has been effective tool in fighting crime, and we are determined to take and we are seeing significant numbers of people referred further action to close the gap and make sure that our to it.