HanrhratrrManchester — A City of Village Charm limlh Saturday, July 11, 1987 30 Cents NORTH SAYS CASEY USED SECRET FUND By Harry F. Rosenthal rebels, “ This had better never come The Associated Press out.” “ I took steps to ensure that it didn’t WASHINGTON - Lt. Col. Oliver and they fa iM ,” North said. North testified Friday that the late CIA For the first time since the bearings director, Williani J. Casey, welcomed began, members of the House and the fund created by secret arms sales to Senate committees squabbled publicly Iran because he could use it for with each other, arguing over the operations other than supplying the questioning of North by Senate commit­ Nicaraguan contras with weapons. tee counsel Arthur Liman. However, in his fourth day of There were complaints of unfairness testimony before the congressional from House Republicans, including Iran-contra committees. North denied Florida Rep. Bill Bif,cCollum, Who said that using the fund meant "a CIA Liman was “ acting like a pirosecutor... outside of the CIA” was being created, instead of a fact-finder.” as a committee lawyer suggested. Senators of both parties disagreed, Sen. William Cohen, R-Maine, a and Sen. Paul Sarbanes, D-Md., re­ member of the panel, said the testimony torted that he thought Liman’s question­ about the fund was "perhaps one of the ing was “ clearly within proper bounds,” most serious revelations” of the hear­ citing McCollum’s previous words as ings because it showed a plan to supporting the need for close circumvent Congress for secret interrogation. operations. McCollum, he said, had declared in Senate committee chairman Daniel regard to earlier testimony about secret I^u ye, D-Hawaii, saw the plan as “ the activities by North and others, ” I think creation and maintenance of a secret that that in itself may well be a crime. If government within our government.” it is not a crime it is certainly one of the North said that once, by using the highest acts of insubordination.” funds, be was able to obtain a ship North, during his testimony, repeated overnight after Casey had said, “ We his earlier statement that he lied to can't find one anywhere else: Get a Congress about his activities with the ship.” contras to save lives, but Liman a s k ^ After that success, he said, he him if the real reason was because received a note from John Poindexter, Congress did not want the contras his boss at the National Security supported. Council, objecting that North’s opera­ “ If Congress decided nobody in the tional role was becoming too public and United States should render support AP photo ordering him not to talk to anyone else, whatsoever to the Nicaraguan Demo­ DAY FOUR — Former White House aide Oliver North holds up his including Casey, about it. cratic Resistance then it should have At one point. North said, Poindexter passed a law saying that,” replied hand in his fourth day of testimony Friday before the Iran-contra said to him in regard to the diversion of committee on Capitol Hill. Iranian arms sales profits to the contra Turn to page 3 rii«.aCTj.TS«K,a'? SNAFU by Bnic* Beam* Policemen never had a chance North says Casey used Iran-contra fund when they went to make arrest Contlnned from page I North. The law passed by Congress INKSTER, Mich. (A P ) — Policemen sent to a motel forbade military support and covert aid to serve arrest warrants on bad check charges by intelligence agencies. encountered a woman and her three sons armed with Despite the seriousness of some of the several guns and apparently had no chance to shoot or topics, the tone during much of Friday’s negotiate before three officers were killed, authorities proceeding seemed less tense than on Vtir\ said Friday. previous days. ' ' i t ' The four suspecU. who had claimed to be bolding the Once. North asked Liman with a smile officers hostage, kept police at bay for 10 hours at the if the attorney was criticizing him for Bungalow Motel in this Detroit suburb before not shredding well enough. u u l surrendering at 3:15 a.m. Friday. “ My eyesight has suffered from Police Chief James Buckley said an automatic reading what you left behind.” Liman weapon, a high-powered rifle, a shotgun, handguns and answered, provoking laughter in the a flare gun were found in the motel room. Mayor Betty Senate Caucus Room. Miller' said police also found flak jackets and gas North, who contends he has been masks. flooded with public support, placed two ®8f>’ As many as 1,000 shots had been fired during the first big stacks of telegrams on the witness “He followed me home...can we three hours, Buckley said. table in view of the committees and the keep him?" One of the suspects was identified as Alberta Easter. television cameras. 69, the Wayne County Prosecutor’s Office said. The On a somber note, security at the other three suspects were her sons, said Wayne County hearings was increased after a death Sheriff Robert Ficano. threat against North was received, said Connecticut Weather The names of the sons were withheld pending a committee aide, who spoke on issuance of warrants and arraignment, tentatively condition of anonymity. No details about scheduled for noon Saturday in Westland, said a the threat were revealed. Eastern Interior, Central, Sonthwest Interior: Hazy, secretary who refused to identify herself. As the hearings continued on Capitol hot and humid Saturday. A 30 percent chance of an One of the sons was thought to be a kidney patient Hill: afternoon thunderstorm. High around 90. Light and who requires dialysis treatment, and he was taken to ■ In a legal setback for North at the variable wind. Hazy and humid Saturday night and Westland Medical Center after his arrest. The Detroit nearby U.S. CkiUrthouse. Chief U.S. Sunday. Low Saturday night around 70. Hot Sunday News reported. District Judge Aubrey E. Robinson Jr. with high around 90. The slain policemen were identified as Sgt. Ira upheld the Justice Department’s March W w t Coastal, East Coastal: Hazy, very warm and Parker, 41, a 15-year veteran, and officers Clay 5 backup appointment of independent humid Saturday. A 30 percent chance of an afternoon Hoover, 24, and Dan Dubiel, 36. Dubiel had been with counsel Lawrence E. Walsh, whose thunderstorm. High 85 to 90. Winds becoming onshore. the department 13 years, and Hoover joined the authority to investigate the Iran-contra Hazy and humid Saturday night and Sunday. Low department in March, officials said. affair has been challenged by North on Saturday night in the lower 70s. Very warm Sunday ' AP photo high 85 to 90. Each 'was shot five to nine times, said police several fronts. dispatcher Philip Rogers. An unidentified policeman reacts during ■ At the White House, presidential Northwest Hills: Hazy, hot and humid Saturday. A 30 Buckley said Friday morning that no motive had the long ordeal at a motel in Inkster, spokesman Marlin Fitzwater said Arthur Liman, chief Senate iran-contra com­ hearings. Meanwhile, Rep. Peter Rodino a.., percent chance of an afternoon thunderstorm. High been determined. North’s testimony has provided Presi­ second from'Hght, speaks with Sen. Daniel around 90. Light and variable winds. Hazy and hiimid Mich., in which three of his fellow officers mittee counsei. ieft, speaks with John >lields, The woman had told reporter Bill Proctor of dent Reagan with a wealth of new Saturday night and Sunday. Low Saturday night in the were slain. Inouye, D-Hawali, and Rep. Lee Hamilton, W XYZ-TV during the standoff that she was upset about information about events that occurred chief House Iran-contra committee counsel, upper 60s. Hot Sunday, high around 90. second from left, and Sen. George D. Mitchell, 0-1 nd., r^ght, co-chairmen of the committee. a real estate deal that had soured and led to the bad The officers apparently had no chance to return fire. in his White House. “ We don’t know the check charge. "There was just no negotiating there,” said former facts of what happened. We don’t know D-Maine, center, during a break In Friday’s Hoover and Dubiel apparently encountered a Police Chief Anderson Young. “ Parker ... has about meetings. We don’t know about problem when they tried to serve the warrants, and conversations,” he said. Lottery Winners negotiated himself and others out of these situations North said. “ It was not my indiscretion sustaining entity to do certain activities they called for Parker’s assistance, Buckley said. Fitzwater also corrected initial White ultimate covert operation — even one before. He got results. in that case, it was Director Casey’s, on behalf of the Unites States.” “ As soon as he (Parker) entered the room, a barrage House statements this week which said you should not talk to the director of unfortunately. ..X . Asked whether he was not shocked by Of shots erupted,” the chief said. ‘ ‘Right now it does not Reagan had not taken any time out central intelligence about?” Liman Connecticut daily Friday: MM. Play Four: »75«. “ If Officer Parker couldn't get himself and anyone To that Liman responded: “ So this the proposal, North said there was not appear extremely likely they (Hoover and Dubiel) during his workday to watch North’s asked. Connecticut “ Lotto” Friday: IS, 14,18, » , 26, » . else out of that situation, no one else in the department business of covert'operations reached a necessarily a violation of laws if Casey encountered any weapons initially.” testimoRy. He said Friday that Reagan ’ ‘The problem that generated this note could.” point where not only Congress was used the organization for covert activi­ watched the live broadcast of the was that Director Casey had told regarded as too indiscreet to be told, but.