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Lok Sabha Debates LOK SABHA DEBATES LOK SABHA Rule 9 of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in Lok Sabha, I have nominated the following Members as members of the Panel of Chairman : Saturday. March 28, 199B/Chaitra 7, 1. Shri. P.M. Sayeed 1920 (Saka) 2. Shri K. Pradhanl 3. Dr. Laxminarayan Pandey 4. Prof. RHa Verma The Lok Sabha met at two minute past 5. Shrl K. Yerrannaldu Eleven of the Clock. 6. Shri V. Sathiamoorthy 7. Shri Basu Deb Acharla SPEAKER in the Chail1 1M". SHRI SUDIP BANDYOPADHYAY (Calculla North· [English} West) : II will be appreciated if they are introduced to MR. SPEAKER : There is an announcement. the House. THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI l.K. AN HON. MEMBER: II is not necessary. ADVANI) : Mr. Speaker Sir, we are about to resume the debate on the Motion of Confidence. I would request that the time for voting be announced. We tentatively 11.04 hra. agreed the other day that the reply to the debate by the Prime Minister would be fixed at 4 p.m. then by 5 p.m. or so, we can have the voting because many Members REPORT OF COMMITIEE OF PRIVILEGES would like to go back to their constituencies, they have (ELEVENTH LOK SABHA) ON 'ETHICS, to fill their returns etc. Otherwise, we have no objection STANDARDS IN PUBLIC LIFE, PRIVILEGES, silling late. Because of practical considerations, it would FACILITIES TO MEMBERS AND OTHER ba proper if we all agree to a certain time limit. RELATED MATIERS'·LAID SHRI SHARAD PAWAR (Baramati) : There is a request from outside also that many Members would [English] like to go back to their respective constituencies to SECRETARY·GENERAL : The Chairman, Commillee submit. their accounts and there are some religious of Privileges, (Eleventh Lok Sabha) presented the functions also tomorrow. If we would be able to finish Committee's Report on 'Ethics, Standards In Public Life, everything before 5 p.m. or 5.30 p.m. including voting, Privileges, Facilities to Members and other Related it will be good. So, the reply of the Prime Minister may Mailers' to the Speaker, Eleventh Lok Sabha on 27 start between 4 p.m. and 4.30 p.m. November, 1997, In terms of clause (1) of the Direction MR. SPEAKER : Hon. Members, please cooperate. 71A of the Directions by the Speaker read with Rule 280 of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Buslne.. [Translation} in Lok Sabha. However, before the Report could be presented to the House, the Eleventh Lok Sabha w.. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF dissolved on 4 December, 1997. I have also to raport RAILWAYS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY to the House that pursuant to orden of the Speaker, OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI RAM NAIK) : Mr. Eleventh Lok Sabha under clause (2) of Direction 71A Speaker, Sir, there is one more Important thing In it. of the Directions by the Speaker, copi .. of tha Report New year's begining today. I would like to convey my were circulated to all Members of the Eleventh Lok best wishes for the same. If it is addressed like this, it Sabha. would be fine. Sir, as required undar clause (6) of the Direction [English] 71A of the Directions by the Speaker, I lay a copy of the Report (Hindi and English versions) on the Table of tha MR. SPEAKER : Please cooperate to complete the House. business at least before 5.30 p.m. 11.03 hr•• 11.05 hr•• ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER MOTION OF CONFIDENCE IN THE COUNCIL Nomination to Panal ot Chairman OF MINISTERS-Contd. [English] [English} MR. SPEAKER : Hon. Members, there is an MR. SPEAKER : Now, the House will resume the announcement. I have to Infonn the House that under dlscu.slon on tha Motion of Confidence. 3 Motion of Confidence in the MARCH 28, 1888 Council of MInisters 4 Shri P. Shiv Shanker may speak now. The Prime Minister seeks the vote of confidence in SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER (Tenali): Mr. Speaker Sir, the Council of Ministers from this House. The question the whole of yesterday, I heard with tremendous intent that has to be posed is : Of course, they have no record the speeches delivered by all the Members particularly because they have just come into power. That is a point those delivered from the Treasury Benches. that has to be looked into. What is their credibility? The- Prime Minister has said, ·Pepole want an honest I must submit that the nation should be amazed at Government." I will come to that 'honest Government' the manner in which the Treasury Benches addressed later on. He has uttered this in his speech. the question of Confidence Motion. On the question of genuine apprehensions which I will refer to the Prime Minister shortly. All the hon. we raised, not a single stand has been taken. I am sure Members speaking from the Treasury Benches, whether that the Prime Minister - when he answers will certainly they are Ministers or otherwise, have only tried to point answer all the apprehensions that we have expressed out some defects in the working of the previous including the credulity and the credibility of this Government or some defects in the manifestos of the Government, including the manner in which- they have various parties which are arrayed here. But that is no conducted themselves before and the fallout in future, way for the Treasury Benches to speak for a Confidence that is likely to take place. Motion. When they are speaking for a Confidence Motion, they must tell us their credibility. They must tell Sir, the Prime Minister, in his speech, has been us as to what programme they have got. They must tell pleased to observe that the Congress has increased its us the reasons as to why they seek the confidence of tally by one seat and he further said that the mandate this House. Not a single word has come from any person of the people was in favour of the_ BJP and its allies. He on the other side on these issues. further went on to add that the BJP had its allies before Our friends have raised diversified issues. We have the elections. These were the three aspects which the raised many an issue. We said, "Why you should not be hon. 'Prime Minister had been pleased to observe while voted out?" But what was the answer? They were trying seeking the Vote of Confidence in his Council of to pick holes either in our manifestos or the manner in Ministers. which we were working. Is that the way that they want Sir, on the question of mandate let me straightway to win confidence? submit that in the last Lok Sabha the BJP had either What about the Prime Minister? The Prime Minister 161 or 164 seats. What is the strength of the BJP in the has only referred to one aspect where he referred to present Lok Sabha? It is 179. It has 15 seats more than the past, that is, as to what were the Governments. He what they had in the previous Lok Sabha. Even then, only said that the people's mandate was in his favour. just with an addition of 15 more seats, would the Prime I will come to that mandate part at a later stage. Why Minister like to say that the mandate is in favour of the did you not say beyond that? After all, you want our BJP? confidence. You want the confidence of the House. You SHRI VAlKO (Sivakasi) : The Congress has want to seek our cooperation also. If you have written increased its tally by one. us off, that is a different thing altogether. On our part, every Member has raised the issues. Each one of us SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER : Forget about the has brought to your notice as to what is happening. Congress. One-seat increase or no increase is Where is the credibility? Where is the honesty? What is immaterial. The BJP-Ied Government is seeking the Vote the programme that you have got? AH these questions of Confidence in its favour by increasing its tally by only have been addressed. The Ministers have also 15 seats. addressed. If you want to have a compliment from the SHRI VAlKO: What about the Congress in 1991? people of India and from this House for lacing your speeches with literary phrases In the Hindi language, SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER : Forget about that. My we give you all marks. There is no dlfficuHy about it. dear friend, we are prepared to accept that we are bad coins and that is why we are sitting in the Opposition. But then the point is, what exactly you have spoken. I am asking you the question. I am not seeking the Vote What is the substance? Can you quote a single Member of Confidence. Your Government is seeking the Vote of from the Treasury Bench who has met our points? None Confidence. has met a point. 'Each one of us had been expr.ssing our apprehensions as to why we should not vote for Sir, there had not been a single joint manifesto of- you and what are our apprehensions in voting for you. the 13 Parties which have signed the National Agenda. It is rather strange that the trend of speeches has been Each one of these Parties has different manifesto. Each such where they want to score a debating point by one of them has contradictory ideas 'on various -I.sues.
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