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Where is the best place to look for job openings in Library Management? This is for a young cousin of mine, who has just received her Masters in Library Management and is having a difficult time knowing where to look for jobs.

Ceya Minder, Librarian Southeast Alabama Genealaogical & Historical Society, Inc. Dothan, Alabama [email protected]

From c8screek at msn.com Sun Mar 1 12:50:01 2009 From: c8screek at msn.com (Dave Cates) Date: Sun Mar 1 12:50:04 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Bertie Beginnings: The Story of Our County and It's Distinguished Citizens Message-ID:

Cynthia Herrin has published a compilation of the information found in "Bertie Beginnings: The Story of Our County and It's Distinguished Citizens". The publication information of Cynthia's compilation is: Herrin, Cynthia, comp.. Bertie County, North Carolina Vital Statistics, 1700s-1920 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2001.

I am desperately trying to contact Cynthia or locate a copy of the original source "Bertie Beginnings:...". My contact information is: Dave W. Cates, 2255 Campbellsville Rd. Pulaski, TN 38478 ([email protected]). Thank you for any assistance you could offer.

Sincerely, Dave W. Cates

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Sadly, the outlook for 20 to 30 years from now isn't very good. Now, people are coming more and more to rely on computers to "check everything"., which of course is a fallacy. Other have pointed out that merely having something digitally available is nice, but it's not a complete solution.

Probably the scariest outlook is that libraries will be staffed as cheaply as possible, with no experts in the field; and that even now budget considerations are forcing libraries to discontinue access to computerized databases. If that happens patrons will HAVE to go back to using microfilms - but there isn't much money to buy them. And in my humble experience, many librarians are at retirement's door, and there haven't been any young people brought along. I wish that I had a better outlook, but I am nothing if not a realist.

And that's not even mentioning if libraries can afford to buy computers and get net access. From Heather.McLeland-Wieser at spl.org Sun Mar 1 15:21:30 2009 From: Heather.McLeland-Wieser at spl.org (Heather McLeland-Wieser) Date: Sun Mar 1 15:21:37 2009 Subject: [Genealib] RE: Looking to the Future In-Reply-To: References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Larry; Its not all bleak. At Seattle Public we are absorbing budget cuts but we've been there before and we survived. Door count, question count and database use are all up and believe me we let the Mayor and City council know that. We also have a number of young librarians interested in Genealogy in the Seattle area. Maybe you can entice them to NY with suitable blandishments

Heather

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:genealib- [email protected]] On Behalf Of Naukam, Larry Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:17 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] RE: Looking to the Future

And that's not even mentioning if libraries can afford to buy computers and get net access. ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib From loathout at tcpclibrary.org Sun Mar 1 18:43:17 2009 From: loathout at tcpclibrary.org (Larry Oathout) Date: Sun Mar 1 18:43:17 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Question... In-Reply-To: <0EDA8132187746139D46C896435CF78C@node1> References: <[email protected]> <0EDA8132187746139D46C896435CF78C@node1> Message-ID:

I would have her check lisjobs.com

Larry Oathout Director Tell City-Perry County Library Tell City, IN 47586 812-547-2661 (Fax) 547-3038 www.tcpclibrary.org

-----Original Message----- From: "Ceya" To: Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:43:04 -0600 Subject: [Genealib] Question...

Ceya Minder, Librarian Southeast Alabama Genealaogical & Historical Society, Inc. Dothan, Alabama [email protected]

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I guess I am going with the flow, but only books and other paper are forever, and that is why they should remain. Microfilm will still exist in one form or another. Databases will stay, and the best ones will be locally produced, as you still "own" them. It is a scary future when vast collections can just disappear when you are forced to cancel a subscription, or the company goes under.

Larry Oathout Director Tell City-Perry County Library Tell City, IN 47586 812-547-2661 (Fax) 547-3038 www.tcpclibrary.org

-----Original Message----- From: "David Hardin" To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:05:59 -0600 Subject: RE: [Genealib] Looking to the Future

To echo Paul?s thoughts, you will find the trend of the ?next best? format has always been to produce media with a shorter shelf life than the previous.

For any item, a print version will outlast a microform version, and a microform version will outlast the digital version in reasonable conditions. Records (LPs) have a longer shelf life than tape, and tape lasts longer than any digital format in place today. This is also true to some extent with photographs; those older color photographs will fade alarmingly fast, while the black and white images can stay timeless.

The hope is that those in charge of our digital legacy will be aware enough to transfer the files to new media before too much degradation occurs (hence restarting the time bomb). ?Digital archives? is an oxymoron. If any institution is ?archiving? items only digitally, say goodbye to that collection unless they are incredibly steadfast in their backup plan AND incredibly lucky. The concept that we will no longer need books or even microfilm in the future is just as preposterous as the concept of a paperless society (I am sure you remember that from your library school days).

More to the point of the original question, I believe in 20-30 years our library will have access to more databases with digital images of original records, we will have many more books, and we will still have microfilm. The ratio of print to digital will change due to the potential for digital to grow incredibly fast and also the potential to completely crash. We are already seeing restrictions within our system on expanding the number of public computers based on bandwidth issues. Microfilm reader/printer/scanners will continue to be costly and may become scarce in the future.

If you are only interested in access, digital sources, minus the technical headaches, are the best thing since sliced bread. If you are more concerned with having a viable collection when the Great Electromagnetic Event of 2048 hits or when the Director says we have to slash 60% of our budget and all of your subscriptions are indefinitely cancelled, it?s best to diversify, hedge your bets, and be thoughtful about every move you make.

One problem with the purchase of large microfilm sets is Will this be up on Footnote.com or FamilySearch.org next year? That is not a bad problem to have if you have properly defined your collection and your mission. If you have anything unique in your collection, treat it with the upmost respect. Use other people?s money whenever possible (monetary donations) and have individuals/organizations donate the items you do not feel you can justify purchasing with your institution?s funds (material donations). Beg (for donations), Borrow (subscribe to Ancestry LE, etc.), and Steal (from accounts that never seem to spend all of their materials budget).

If you are part of an organization that handles ?digital archives,? keep yourself up to date on the technology and make sure to backup/transfer files before they degrade (the old rule of thumb was every 5 years, I?m not sure what it might be now). I was in Dr. Kenneth Lavender?s Preservation class at the University of North Texas when he received the question, What is the most stable environment for information? Tape, microfilm, digital? The answer, pencil on paper.

David Allan Hardin, MSLIS Genealogy Librarian Supervisor Plano Public Library System 2501 Coit Road Plano, Texas 75075 972.769.4443 [email protected]

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 11:39 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Genealib] Looking to the Future

In a message dated 02/27/2009 8:38:40 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hello

I am working on a Librarianship course called Developing a Successful Genealogy Collection. I am hoping to get some input from this list.

My question is what do you think your library will look like in 20 or 30 years? Will it still maintain the same ratio of books to digital sources? Computers are a wonderful thing, but will the need for them to view more sources become a problem? Is microfilm here to stay and will you need more readers?

Any input will be appreciated.

Kathie Fortner A subject of interest to Archivists, and Historians.

First in my opinion, electronic storage for long term storage and recovery, represents a disaster. Virtually all electronic media, while being very efficient as tools, are transient.

The equipment is continually being redesigned and in the process older equipment, which has hours of stored material can no longer be accessed.

Think of electronic programs and equipment having a short shelf life, say one or two generations. Hard copy archival books, well distributed, represent long term archival storage.

Computers and related equipment are great tools, but long term storage should always be in books and in libraries.

Paul W. Wittmer [email protected]

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She can join this listserv to have job announcements sent to her email: alisjobs -- Announcements from Library and Information Science Jobs http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/alisjobs

Christine Larson Dakota County Library-Galaxie Apple Valley, MN

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ceya Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Question...

Ceya Minder, Librarian Southeast Alabama Genealaogical & Historical Society, Inc. Dothan, Alabama [email protected]

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In Indiana, a good place to start is the Indiana State Library website. If she clicks on Services for Librarians, she should get a list of open jobs in Indiana.

Tell her to hang in there. I started my professional career in 1980, when things were almost as bad, and survived. She will too.

-----Original Message----- From: "Larson, Christine" To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:58:27 -0600 Subject: RE: [Genealib] Question...

She can join this listserv to have job announcements sent to her email: alisjobs -- Announcements from Library and Information Science Jobs http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/alisjobs

Christine Larson Dakota County Library-Galaxie Apple Valley, MN

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ceya Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Question...

Ceya Minder, Librarian Southeast Alabama Genealaogical & Historical Society, Inc. Dothan, Alabama [email protected]

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Thank you to everyone who sent me info and comments about creating a formal "researcher for hire" list. I appreciate all the help! Julie

Julie H. Bartlett Archivist Calvin Coolidge Presidential Library & Museum Hampshire Room for Local History Forbes Library 20 West St. Northampton, MA 01060 (413) 587-1014 [email protected] "In spite of all the other facilities books are the principal permanent repository of knowledge and culture." >From the syndicated newspaper column "Calvin Coolidge Says" April 30, 1931

----- Original Message ----- From: "IRENE HANSEN" To: Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: [Genealib] Genealogy Librarianship Course

>I have taught a 4 week online "Genealogy Library Services" course at the >University of Wisconsin-Madison, School of Library and Information Studies >Continuing Education Services. I will teach it again later this year or >early next year. > > Irene Hansen > Doctoral Student > Reference Librarian, Wisconsin Historical Society > > School of Library & Information Studies > University of Wisconsin-Madison > 4217 Helen C. White Hall > 600 N. Park Street, Madison, WI 53706 > Phone: (608) 354-5504 (cell) > Email: [email protected] > > > ______> genealib mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib >

From gukhow at netscape.net Mon Mar 2 17:40:10 2009 From: gukhow at netscape.net ([email protected]) Date: Mon Mar 2 17:42:40 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Question... In-Reply-To: <0EDA8132187746139D46C896435CF78C@node1> References: <[email protected]> <0EDA8132187746139D46C896435CF78C@node1> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

The Arizona State Library, Archives and Public Records website hosts a jobline where institutions both in-state and out-of-state can post job openings. http://www.lib.az.us/jobs

Betsy Howard, Library Development Assistant

-----Original Message----- From: Ceya To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:43 am Subject: [Genealib] Question...

Where is the best place to look for job openings in Library Management? This is for a young cousin of mine, who has just received her? Masters in Library Management and is having a difficult time knowing where to look for jobs.? ? Ceya Minder, Librarian? Southeast Alabama Genealaogical &? ? Historical Society, Inc.? Dothan, Alabama? [email protected] ? ______? genealib mailing list? [email protected]? http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib?

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Hello all!

I will be conducting a PowerPoint presentation on using HQ for several of our patrons in early April. I captured a file several months ago (a PowerPoint presentation done by Edwina Morgan) that (I believe) she said was available for modification and use by other librarians for training purposes. Unfortunately, I seem to have lost it.

If Ms. Morgan (or someone in possession of the original posting) could forward that to me, I would greatly appreciate it! If it is acceptable to make modifications and use that presentation, I would like to do so - if not, I would love to look over it and get some ideas - it was well done and very informative!

Thank you,

Melissa Holekamp

From kfortner at sympatico.ca Tue Mar 3 05:23:52 2009 From: kfortner at sympatico.ca (Kathie Fortner) Date: Tue Mar 3 05:23:55 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Looking to the Future In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID:

My thanks to all who responded. I found the information very interesting.

Kathie ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [Genealib] Looking to the Future

In a message dated 02/27/2009 8:38:40 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hello I am working on a Librarianship course called Developing a Successful Genealogy Collection. I am hoping to get some input from this list.

Any input will be appreciated.

Kathie Fortner A subject of interest to Archivists, and Historians.

First in my opinion, electronic storage for long term storage and recovery, represents a disaster. Virtually all electronic media, while being very efficient as tools, are transient.

The equipment is continually being redesigned and in the process older equipment, which has hours of stored material can no longer be accessed.

Think of electronic programs and equipment having a short shelf life, say one or two generations. Hard copy archival books, well distributed, represent long term archival storage.

Computers and related equipment are great tools, but long term storage should always be in books and in libraries.

Paul W. Wittmer [email protected]

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Just feeling a bit grumpy today. We had to cancel Heritage Quest because of NYS funding cuts, and believe me, the users - and local historians - are terribly unhappy about it! From ggrunow at nngov.com Tue Mar 3 12:24:13 2009 From: ggrunow at nngov.com (Grunow, Gregg S.) Date: Tue Mar 3 12:24:17 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Looking to the Future In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID:

Having preservation duties along with my genealogical ones I still believe books and microfilm should be used for the longterm preservation of the information. I still view digital collections as an excellent way to access information but for the longterm is still unreliable. We here have created several digital collections of which we are very proud and give access to anyone online of information that had been only available in this room however I am always concerned about losing everything. It is very complicated and expensive to back everything up and migrate from one generation of software and hardware to another before they become obsolete. My main concern is that most of the maintaining, funding and purchasing of software and hardware is not controlled by me, I only have input and suggestion making ability. Changing priorities are always a concern.

I have always been a big believer in placing materials on microfilm or digital files but taking care of the original physical book, journal, newspaper, booklet, etc. If the electronics fail for whatever reason the original is still here.

While I think a growing percentage of our budget will go to digital information resources just for the accessability factor and the higher expense a significant amount will still go to books and microfilm.

My two cents,

Gregg Grunow Senior Librarian Newport News Public Library System Main Street Library Virginiana Room 110 Main Street Newport News, VA 23601 757-591-4858 [email protected] ______From: [email protected] [genealib- [email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] [[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Genealib] Looking to the Future

In a message dated 03/02/2009 7:22:25 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I am going with the flow, but only books and other paper are forever, and that is why they should remain. Microfilm will still exist in one form or another. Databases will stay, and the best ones will be locally produced, as you still "own" them. It is a scary future when vast collections can just disappear when you are forced to cancel a subscription, or the company goes under.

Larry Oathout Director Tell City-Perry County Library Paper and published archival books will last many generations. Stone engravings and Bronze castings will not endure. Mmultiple paper copies and books well distributed in archives will outlive many of us.

Electronic storage lasts only as long the monthly bills are being paid and the programs are intact and available on a wide variety of electronic equipments.

A sad loss of volumes of valuable genealogical data is, or has been lost with the use of low cost acid papers to produce all those white page telephone books in the 1930's, 1940's and beyond. When found, these books yield names, addresses for specicic times. However the paper is often brittle and crumbles when turning a page.

In situations, such as this, microfilming would have preserved the data.

My preference is to utilize all available electronic based tools to compile, develop publications and distribute the books to archives, libraries, historic societies and the like.

See the attached two page description of my recent work on basic genealogy of 3,600 WWII men. Records of men and their families from every state are listed.

Paul W. Wittmer [email protected]

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I have also found the answers to this question interesting, particularly those that mentioned microfilm. Are you still purchasing locally-relevant microfilm? Even if the related records are currently digitally available?

When the 1940 census is released in 2012 would you/your library want to purchase one or more microfilm rolls for geographic areas that fall within the scope of your collection? Or will you rely on online digital access from whomever may provide it?

Claire Kluskens NARA, Washington, DC "Just curious; this is not an official survey. My opinions, if any, may not reflect those of my employer." From agometz at rhus.com Wed Mar 4 07:32:00 2009 From: agometz at rhus.com (Anne Gometz) Date: Wed Mar 4 07:31:37 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Re: microfilm [subject change] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Claire Kluskens wrote:

> When the 1940 census is released in 2012 would you/your library want to > purchase one or more microfilm rolls for geographic areas that fall > within the scope of your collection? Or will you rely on online digital > access from whomever may provide it?

I still believe in microfilm as long term storage -- and it works when the IT connection is down, when Ancestry is down or so slow you can't pull up a record, when the image is bad, when the budget is so bad that you're losing subscriptions and have to rely on what you own. We have a lot of heavily used local materials that no one is going to digitize for us and we don't have that kind of budget and staff. If you have microfilm, at least you have something when the original paper disintegrates. Anne Gometz Gaston-Lincoln Regional Library, NC These statements are my personal opinions and may NOT reflect the opinion of my employer.

From loathout at tcpclibrary.org Wed Mar 4 08:03:45 2009 From: loathout at tcpclibrary.org (Larry Oathout) Date: Wed Mar 4 08:03:49 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID:

Yes, we will buy the 1940. That way we have it regardless what may happen to Ancestry, HQ, or our budget.

Larry Oathout Director Tell City-Perry County Library Tell City, IN 47586 812-547-2661 (Fax) 547-3038 www.tcpclibrary.org

-----Original Message----- From: Claire Kluskens To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:34:54 -0500 Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future

Claire Kluskens NARA, Washington, DC "Just curious; this is not an official survey. My opinions, if any, may not reflect those of my employer." ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20090304/911e85d7/ attachment.html From Patricia.VanSkaik at cincinnatilibrary.org Wed Mar 4 08:50:15 2009 From: Patricia.VanSkaik at cincinnatilibrary.org (Van Skaik, Patricia) Date: Wed Mar 4 08:50:18 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <[email protected]>

We would want to purchase 1940 census film. Budget permitting, of course.

Patricia M. Van Skaik Manager, History and Genealogy Department Public Library of Cincinnati and Hamilton County (513) 369-6908 [email protected]

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Claire Kluskens Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:35 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future

Claire Kluskens NARA, Washington, DC "Just curious; this is not an official survey. My opinions, if any, may not reflect those of my employer." ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib From ggrunow at nngov.com Wed Mar 4 09:10:15 2009 From: ggrunow at nngov.com (Grunow, Gregg S.) Date: Wed Mar 4 09:11:12 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID:

______From: Grunow, Gregg S. Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:08 AM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists; Claire Kluskens Subject: RE: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future

I am on the fence about the 1940. On the one hand I would like to get the microfilm and believe we should have it in the collection. On the other hand it will be a large expense and almost no one has been using the 1930 census on microfilm the last few years. The idea of spending that much of my budget on something that in all likelyhood isn't going to be used isn't very appealing especially at the prices NARA is charging these days.

I will and will continue to purchase microfilm that will be of use.

Gregg Grunow Senior Librarian Newport News Public Library System Main Street Library Virginiana Room 110 Main Street Newport News, VA 23601 757-591-4858 [email protected] ______------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20090304/73fe3c18/ attachment.html From marjorie.bardeen at lancasterhistory.org Wed Mar 4 09:11:41 2009 From: marjorie.bardeen at lancasterhistory.org (Marjorie Bardeen) Date: Wed Mar 4 09:11:54 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003801c99cd3$26c35da0$744a18e0$@[email protected]> Yes, I definitely want to buy the microfilm of the 1940 census for my county.

Marjorie R. Bardeen Librarian Lancaster County Historical Society 230 N. President Ave. Lancaster, Pa 17603 www.lancasterhistory.org

-----Original Message----- From: Claire Kluskens [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:35 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future

From pcooper at irclibrary.org Wed Mar 4 09:20:38 2009 From: pcooper at irclibrary.org (Pam Cooper) Date: Wed Mar 4 09:22:16 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future References: Message-ID:

Yes, I will purchase the microfilm. It is the ONLY way to preserve our local history. In fact, I just received an order of microfilm yesterday. Lately, our machines have never seen such heavy use. It is wonderful! Apparently, we still have a lot of material in our collection that is NOT online.

Pam

Pamela J. Cooper, Supervisor Archive Center & Genealogy Department Indian River County Main Library 1600 21st Street, Vero Beach, FL 32960

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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:genealib- [email protected]] On Behalf Of Claire Kluskens Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:35 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future

Claire Kluskens NARA, Washington, DC "Just curious; this is not an official survey. My opinions, if any, may not reflect those of my employer." ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib From JSchultz at mcpl.lib.mo.us Wed Mar 4 09:26:25 2009 From: JSchultz at mcpl.lib.mo.us (Janice Schultz) Date: Wed Mar 4 09:28:46 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future References: Message-ID:

I thought the 1940 census would not be released on microfilm - only digital. Claire, are you saying it is going to be filmed?

Janice Schultz Genealogy Librarian [email protected] Midwest Genealogy Center Mid-Continent Public Library 3440 S. Lee's Summit Rd. Independence, MO 64055 http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us Phone (816) 252-7228 Fax (816) 254-7146 Unless explicity attributed, the opinions expressed are personal

______From: [email protected] on behalf of Claire Kluskens Sent: Tue 3/3/2009 8:34 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future

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I've been ignoring this forum because I've been off sick, but will now jump in with my 2 cents. Yes, my library still buys the county newspapers on microfilm. Dick Eastman can jabber all he wants about the death of microfilm, but to date microfilm is the only medium that captures everything. The local newspaper doesn't even buy their own microfilm anymore and contends that the PDF scans they make available on their website are an adequate replacement, but they don't save the classifieds or the for-pay ads. There are reasons, sometimes important legal ones, why people need retrospective access to these things and we think it's important to provide them.

We will buy the Indiana 1940 census in microfilm if it's available. If there is an alternative format (CD/ROM, DVD) we would consider it. We're grateful for Ancestry, but we need an alternative access to our most important sources that's not Internet-dependent.

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Claire Kluskens Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:35 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future

Claire Kluskens NARA, Washington, DC "Just curious; this is not an official survey. My opinions, if any, may not reflect those of my employer." ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20090304/ a1cb68ba/attachment.html From davidhar at plano.gov Wed Mar 4 09:41:47 2009 From: davidhar at plano.gov (David Hardin) Date: Wed Mar 4 09:41:52 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID:

Re: 1940 Census if it were available on microfilm

Due to our size and funding, we would buy the film covering our state and then beg for donations for whatever else we could muster. David Allan Hardin, MSLIS Genealogy Librarian Supervisor Plano Public Library System 2501 Coit Road Plano, Texas 75075 972.769.4443 [email protected]

From wblohm at gailborden.info Wed Mar 4 09:49:45 2009 From: wblohm at gailborden.info (William Blohm) Date: Wed Mar 4 09:48:38 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005401c99cd8$77661ea0$66325be0$@info>

>Our library, for one, would still want census microfilm of our county. Indexing, >whether print or online, fails often enough that reading an entire township or county >is a necessary technique for finding ancestors. Reading page after page is less >straining on a good microfilm reader than it is online, IMHO.

William R. Blohm Reference Librarian & Collection Development Manager Gail Borden Public Library District 270 N. Grove Ave. Elgin, IL 60120

From amsmith at lib.usf.edu Wed Mar 4 09:52:20 2009 From: amsmith at lib.usf.edu (Drew Smith) Date: Wed Mar 4 09:52:22 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <[email protected]>

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Beth Oljace wrote: > Dick Eastman can jabber all he wants about the death of microfilm... Beth, I think it's unfair to characterize Dick's position on this issue as "jabbering". Let's look at some specific points he has recently made:

"However, the creation of new microfilms has now almost stopped... FamilySearch, the genealogy operation sponsored by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormons) has now almost ceased sending cameras out to create new microfilms. FamilySearch has issued numerous reports in the past few years about the organization's conversion to all digital formats. The U.S. National Archives now makes almost no new microfilms. In fact, NARA is working with Footnote.com and other contractors to issue all new products in digital formats, not as microfilm."

Now, are you disputing those specific statements of his? If not, where exactly is the "jabbering"?

Drew Smith Tampa, FL From ggrunow at nngov.com Wed Mar 4 09:08:15 2009 From: ggrunow at nngov.com (Grunow, Gregg S.) Date: Wed Mar 4 09:52:54 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID:

I will and will continue to purchase microfilm that will be of use.

Gregg Grunow Senior Librarian Newport News Public Library System Main Street Library Virginiana Room 110 Main Street Newport News, VA 23601 757-591-4858 [email protected] ______From: [email protected] [genealib- [email protected]] On Behalf Of Larry Oathout [[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:03 AM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists; Claire Kluskens Subject: Re: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future

Yes, we will buy the 1940. That way we have it regardless what may happen to Ancestry, HQ, or our budget.

Larry Oathout Director Tell City-Perry County Library Tell City, IN 47586 812-547-2661 (Fax) 547-3038 www.tcpclibrary.org

-----Original Message----- From: Claire Kluskens To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:34:54 -0500 Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future

Claire Kluskens NARA, Washington, DC "Just curious; this is not an official survey. My opinions, if any, may not reflect those of my employer." ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20090304/2604be34/ attachment.html From davidhar at plano.gov Wed Mar 4 10:16:53 2009 From: davidhar at plano.gov (David Hardin) Date: Wed Mar 4 10:16:56 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID:

Dick has a strong stance on the issue of microfilm as an obsolete format.

BUT, he also will warn you of the danger of not properly backing up electronic data.

Personally, it is this issue that will keep me purchasing relevant microfilm for the foreseeable future. No offense to Claire or anyone else in the business of Government (including myself), but I do not trust these owning institutions to always make proper decisions concerning preservation--note the 1890 and 1910 census, nearly completely destroyed in the first case (the fate is too sad to repeat here; see "First in the Path of the Firemen"

The Fate of the 1890 Population Census, Part 1 By Kellee Blake at http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/1996/spring/1890-census-1. html) and the poorest quality microfilm of any census in the second (the original being destroyed after the filming). Claire, correct me if any of that is incorrect.

David Allan Hardin, MSLIS

Genealogy Librarian Supervisor

Plano Public Library System

2501 Coit Road

Plano, Texas 75075

972.769.4443 [email protected]

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Drew Smith Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:52 AM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: Re: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Beth Oljace wrote:

> Dick Eastman can jabber all he wants about the death of microfilm...

Beth, I think it's unfair to characterize Dick's position on this issue as "jabbering". Let's look at some specific points he has recently made:

"However, the creation of new microfilms has now almost stopped...

FamilySearch, the genealogy operation sponsored by the Church of Jesus

Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormons) has now almost ceased sending cameras out to create new microfilms. FamilySearch has issued numerous reports in the past few years about the organization's conversion to all digital formats. The U.S. National Archives now makes almost no new microfilms. In fact, NARA is working with

Footnote.com and other contractors to issue all new products in digital formats, not as microfilm."

Now, are you disputing those specific statements of his? If not, where exactly is the "jabbering"?

Drew Smith

Tampa, FL

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For the 1940 census, price will be a factor. We use our old census microfilm (1820-1930) for Georgia more than I expected to when helping people find ancestors that are not found in HeritageQuest or Ancestry due to indexing/tagging problems. But price will at least partially dictate whether I can justify purchase of 1940 federal census for Georgia since we may be able to locate many people using other records. I would probably try to purchase at least the rolls that cover our county, though.

Laura

Claire Kluskens wrote: > I have also found the answers to this question interesting, > particularly those that mentioned microfilm. Are you still purchasing > locally-relevant microfilm? Even if the related records are currently > digitally available? > > When the 1940 census is released in 2012 would you/your library want > to purchase one or more microfilm rolls for geographic areas that fall > within the scope of your collection? Or will you rely on online > digital access from whomever may provide it? > > Claire Kluskens > NARA, Washington, DC > "Just curious; this is not an official survey. My opinions, if any, > may not reflect those of my employer." > ______> genealib mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib >

-- Laura W. Carter Heritage Room Librarian Athens-Clarke County Library 2025 Baxter Street Athens, Georgia 30606

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From pcooper at irclibrary.org Wed Mar 4 10:39:53 2009 From: pcooper at irclibrary.org (Pam Cooper) Date: Wed Mar 4 10:41:37 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future References: <005401c99cd8$77661ea0$66325be0$@info> Message-ID:

William and all:

Absolutely and yes, we will continue to buy microfilm as long as I am here. There are too many small towns like us that will be left behind and will not be digitized until long after I am gone.

In spite of a 50% cut in budget, our priority for the money goes to microfilming our documents, which I send to a vendor in Palm Beach. Of course, we get them digitized at the same time, which is a much smaller expense.

We have a much bigger problem. We need to own the master microfilm of our newspaper!

Our local newspaper and the state Newspaper Project (who has our master copy) have become our worst enemy. The newspaper sends their reporters and the public to us. However, I have over ten rolls (1970's-1980) that can no longer be used due to deterioration. (We have 3rd generation microfilm.) This means over 10 years of the newspaper is not available online or anywhere else for that matter. The reason - both the local newspaper and the State Newspaper Program have stopped production of microfilm to only digitize current newspapers. Who knows when they will ever get to re-filming or reproducing the older papers? We are in a crisis at this moment and I have been fighting this for over five years.

Yes, there is more to the story, but I did not want to bore all of you with the details. Just know that if you want replacement for that broken microfilm, check with the people who have your master copy and see if they will make duplicates for you. Or, see if you can buy master copies.

Pam

Pamela J. Cooper, Supervisor Archive Center & Genealogy Department Indian River County Main Library 1600 21st Street, Vero Beach, FL 32960

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:genealib- [email protected]] On Behalf Of William Blohm Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:50 AM To: 'Librarians Serving Genealogists' Subject: RE: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future

William R. Blohm Reference Librarian & Collection Development Manager Gail Borden Public Library District 270 N. Grove Ave. Elgin, IL 60120

______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib From kferchau at saginawlibrary.org Wed Mar 4 11:11:15 2009 From: kferchau at saginawlibrary.org (Kelly Ferchau) Date: Wed Mar 4 11:10:08 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID:

The Public Libraries of Saginaw will purchase the 1940 census for the State of Michigan. If we face cuts in our budget, we will eliminate a couple of our online subscriptions and some book purchases in order to get the census microfilm for our State. Although we are not purchasing census microfilm now for other States because of its availability from our online subscriptions, we will make it a priority to order the microfilm for our State.

Kelly Ferchau Local History & Genealogy Collection Public Libraries of Saginaw 505 Janes Ave. Saginaw, Michigan 48607 (989) 755-9827 [email protected]

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:genealib- [email protected]] On Behalf Of Laura Carter Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:31 AM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: Re: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future

Laura

-- Laura W. Carter Heritage Room Librarian Athens-Clarke County Library 2025 Baxter Street Athens, Georgia 30606

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I want to purchase the 1940 film for my county when it becomes available - subscriptions come and go, but the film is ours forever.

We collect, index and send the local weekly to our state library for microfilming. As someone else mentioned, the online versions are often missing items from the print editions, and not just ads. I have found full (sometimes multipage) articles in our index and microfilm that were NOT on the newspaper's website OR in the America's Newspapers database that we subscribe to.

I am now trying to rustle up grant money to purchase a new microfilm reader/printer, pref. with scanning capabilities.

Pam McLaughlin Fremont Public Library 1170 N. Midlothian Mundelein IL 60060

--- On Tue, 3/3/09, Claire Kluskens wrote:

> From: Claire Kluskens > Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future > To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" > Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 8:34 PM > I have also found the answers to this question interesting, > particularly those that mentioned microfilm. Are you still > purchasing locally-relevant microfilm? Even if the related > records are currently digitally available? > > When the 1940 census is released in 2012 would you/your > library want to purchase one or more microfilm rolls for > geographic areas that fall within the scope of your > collection? Or will you rely on online digital access from > whomever may provide it? > > Claire Kluskens > NARA, Washington, DC > "Just curious; this is not an official survey. My > opinions, if any, may not reflect those of my employer." >

From mccartj at halifax.ca Wed Mar 4 12:34:44 2009 From: mccartj at halifax.ca (Joanne McCarthy) Date: Wed Mar 4 12:35:04 2009 Subject: [Genealib] March Genealogy Programs at the Halifax Public Libraries Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Hi Everyone, there are lots of programs for those interested in learning how to get started on your family tree, St. Margaret's Bay research and Irish genealogy:

Genealogy 101 Starting to research your family history? Join reference librarian Joanne McCarthy to learn the basics of genealogy research, including getting organized and exploring records found at home. Registration required Call 490-5840 to register. Dartmouth North Public Library Tuesday, March 10/7:00 pm

Irish Genealogy Want to find your ancestors in Ireland? What can you do on this side of the Atlantic? Dr.Terry Punch will discuss the resources available, such as societies, websites and records. Dr. Punch is a Certified Canadian Genealogist and a Life Fellow of the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland. Refreshments will be provided. No registration required. Spring Garden Road Memorial Public Library Tuesday, March 17/7:00 pm St. Margaret's Bay Genealogy 101 An introductory workshop to get you started researching your genealogy in this region. Julie Morris, a former archivist at Nova Scotia Archives and Records Management, will share her knowledge to help you grow your family trees. No registration required. Tantallon Public Library Tuesday, March 24/7:00 pm

Genealogy 101 Starting to research your family history? Join reference librarian Joanne McCarthy to learn the basics of genealogy research, including getting organized and exploring records found at home. Registration required Call 434-6177 to register. Cole Harbour Public Library Wednesday, March 25/7:00 pm

Hope to see you there! all the best Joanne

From mccartj at halifax.ca Wed Mar 4 12:37:05 2009 From: mccartj at halifax.ca (Joanne McCarthy) Date: Wed Mar 4 12:37:12 2009 Subject: [Genealib] March Genealogy Programs at the Halifax Public Libraries In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Sorry everyone...this meant to go to our local genealogy society list but I clicked on the wrong link. Anyways, you get to see the kind of programing we are doing here in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada. all the best Joanne

Joanne McCarthy Local History and Genealogy Librarian Spring Garden Road Memorial Public Library-Reference Department 5381 Spring Garden Road Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 1E9 902-490-5813 (phone) 902-490-5746 (fax) http://www.halifaxpubliclibraries.ca >>> "Joanne McCarthy" 3/4/2009 1:34 PM >>> Hi Everyone, there are lots of programs for those interested in learning how to get started on your family tree, St. Margaret's Bay research and Irish genealogy:

St. Margaret's Bay Genealogy 101 An introductory workshop to get you started researching your genealogy in this region. Julie Morris, a former archivist at Nova Scotia Archives and Records Management, will share her knowledge to help you grow your family trees. No registration required. Tantallon Public Library Tuesday, March 24/7:00 pm

Genealogy 101 Starting to research your family history? Join reference librarian Joanne McCarthy to learn the basics of genealogy research, including getting organized and exploring records found at home. Registration required Call 434-6177 to register. Cole Harbour Public Library Wednesday, March 25/7:00 pm

Hope to see you there! all the best Joanne

Joanne McCarthy Local History and Genealogy Librarian Spring Garden Road Memorial Public Library-Reference Department 5381 Spring Garden Road Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 1E9 902-490-5813 (phone) 902-490-5746 (fax) http://www.halifaxpubliclibraries.ca ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib

From l.feil at sjcpl.org Wed Mar 4 12:40:05 2009 From: l.feil at sjcpl.org (Libby Feil) Date: Wed Mar 4 12:40:16 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future/microfilm In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID:

Hi, all-- My library still buys microfilm, particularly of newspapers. We view it as a preservation format and, for newspapers in particular, the only practical way to provide access over the long-term. We also purchase microfilms that relate to our county, such as city directories and church records, from LDS or other institutions. We do not have the equipment or budget to microfilm our own materials, but for the most part when we find microfilm that relates to our county, we buy it. All of our microfilm collection is heavily used. Except for censuses. Typically, only one or fewer of our extensive census microfilm reels gets used every month, so we are actually in the process of moving our census microfilm to a storage area to make more room for our newspapers and other records on microfilm. It doesn't make economic sense for us to add to this part of our microfilm collection when it sees so very little use, so if we buy the 1940 census on microfilm it will only be the part for our county. Usually, we guide our patrons to the census on Ancestry, and in the four years I've worked here I've only run into a handful of short-term (a few minutes) problems with access to the census on Ancestry, so our patrons seem very satisfied with accessing the census in this way. We have digitized some of our materials and made them available online. (See the first four entries on our "Digital collections and databases" page, http://www.libraryforlife.org/localhistory/digitallibrary.html, for instance.) But we do not view this as a preservation format; as others have mentioned, long-term storage and access are issues that haven't been solved for digital files. Digitizing materials creates more access; microfilming them preserves a copy. We'll continue to rely on both strategies. It pains me that LDS, NARA, etc. have apparently decided not to do the same. Best wishes, Libby Feil --

Elizabeth "Libby" Feil, Librarian MA, MLS Manager, Local & Family History Services St. Joseph County Public Library 304 S. Main St. South Bend, IN 46601

574-282-4621 [email protected] AIM: sjcpllibby http://www.libraryforlife.org/localhistory/ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=47449051655 To subscribe to our monthly Local & Family History e-newsletter, email me at [email protected]

Find the help you need at your destination library for St. Joseph County research! From lmarkel at ala.org Wed Mar 4 12:02:22 2009 From: lmarkel at ala.org (Liz Markel) Date: Wed Mar 4 12:46:02 2009 Subject: [Genealib] ALA Early Bird Registration Ends This Friday! Don't Miss Out On RUSA & ASCLA Programming Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Just a reminder that Early Bird Registration ends this Friday, March 6, for ALA's 2009 Annual Conference, July 9-15!

Attending conference is a smart investment for you and your colleagues...

...but Early Bird registration is even smarter, and gets you the best bang for your buck.

Your investment means attending great preconferences and programs like those offered by RUSA and ASCLA.

This year's RUSA programming address issues, challenges and solutions, and resources for the following areas of work:

--Resource Sharing

--Collection Development

--Customer Service and Community Relations, Including Services to Older Adults

--Specialized Reference, Including Historical and Business Reference

--Reference and Technology

Complete descriptions and details at: http://www.ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/rusa/events/annual09/index.cfm

For 2009, ASCLA offers programs appealing to a broad spectrum of librarians, including: --Customer Service and Community Partnerships

--Collaboration and Innovation Within and Between Libraries

--Service to Special Populations, Including Special Needs Patrons and Prisons

Complete descriptions and details at: http://www.ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/ascla/asclaevents/annual09/index.cfm

See you in Chicago!

Sincerely,

Liz Markel

Marketing Specialist, ASCLA & RUSA

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Tragic news for researchers in Cologne/K?ln. The four story building housing the K?ln Archives has collapsed and is now a pile of rubble. Records up to a 1,000 years old are feared lost forever.

No firm figure on how many persons may have been killed--reported numbers range from 2 to 9.

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What I believe Beth may have been expressing earlier today might be frustration at the continual attack on libraries, societies, and other research repositories and organizations that, in order to best serve their customers, make decisions to continue purchasing reader-printers. I do believe it is prudent, as Eastman and others have stated, to purchase digital microtext reader-printers so customers may capture microtext images in a digital format. I do not, however, believe it is prudent for these organizations *not* to purchase these machines at all. That would be a huge disservice to our customers.

At the completion of our extensive building program here at the Allen County Public Library (and yes, there is still a place for the *right* bricks-'n'-mortar projects), we purchased eight (8) digital reader-printers at nearly $7K/each. The majority of them, five to seven, are in use nearly constantly during the busiest parts of our days, and from our casual internal-use surveys, we believe that all eight are likely in use between eight and ten percent of the time. Last year, 46,284 pieces of microtext (film and fiche) were used in our Genealogy Center. If we didn't have reader-printers, it would be challenging for our customers to obtain copies of material they are interested in saving and/or viewing later. We don't have the budget to employ personal scribes.

I also believe it is a disservice to say it will only take "quite a few years" to, for example, convert all the newspapers currently extant only on microfilm to a digital format. The much truer statement is it will take a couple of generations...or more. (See DGC's response to Eastman's Feb. 16, 2009 column-- about not yet living in the *22nd* century.) There is a big difference between years and generations in my humble opinion. Digitizing is still relatively costly, it still takes time, and there are still intellectual property rights to consider. It's not something magic where we'll all close our eyes tightly, turn around twice, wish "real hard," and PUFF, it's done!

For many, there is an additional issue of equality of access. Are only those with money going to be able to engage in genealogical research? Why don't *all* libraries in the country subscribe to *all* the online genealogical services, including all the online newspapers? Because it costs money and most cannot afford all that are available.

Not speaking for Beth, but I am guessing she, too, has grown tired of broad-brush statements like the two below that really don't have as much grounding in reality as one might think.

**From the Eastman Feb. 16, 2009 column: "Most big city newspapers in the U.S., Canada, and England, even those from 100 to 200 years ago, have already been converted from microfilm to digital images. This includes the New York Times, the Washington Post, the London Times, the Boston Globe, the Boston Post (now defunct for many years), and many others. You can now sit at home and read those old newspapers on your PC screen, even if we obtain it from a library or a commercial service (Footnote.com) that is many miles away, regardless of the time of day." Really?! What is the definition of "most?" What is the definition of "big city?" Whatever the definition of "big" is, what about the majority of papers that don't qualify as big? And what is the cost? Can the every-day genealogist access this data? Can libraries and archives afford the subscriptions to make these digitized newspapers available? Very recently I was provided with a quote for an *annual* subscription to nine (9) special focus newspapers titles. That quote was just short of $65K--per year with no guarantees about cost run-ups in the future. Some public libraries are being charged between $45K and $71K *each year* for subscriptions to just over 1300 less specifically focused newspapers titles. But one must watch the title count carefully as there are some information aggregators that tease with a big title list but closer inspection reveals a far from complete run for numerous titles on the list. Public libraries and other similar entities have long concerned themselves with lowering the access bar. And we are still interested in that. No one can or will deny that electronic access is better--for searchability, transmission, reproduction, and usability. Can we afford it? Are the digital projects currently being touted as the best and greatest actually creating "walled gardens" of limited access for the "chosen few" who are rich enough to afford it? And then there's the whole preservation issue that keep being danced around...

** From the Eastman Feb. 16, 2009 column: "Luckily, all the major newspapers from many years ago are already available electronically as are many, but certainly not all, small town papers." Really?! Again, what is the definition of "major," and what about the medium and small town newspapers? the ethnic newspapers? the religious newspapers? the organizational newspapers? the neighborhood association newspapers? Are information aggregators going to see enough profitability in digitizing medium and small town newspapers to ever do them, and if done, will anyone, or everyone, be able to afford them?

Another factor to consider when dialoging about digitization initiatives is standards--are all our digitizing projects conforming to the same standards (resolution, file format, etc.) so digital data is easily portable, searched and accessed by near-infinite numbers of users and programs, and transferable to the next software platform and the next generation of storage media? Yes, digitizing is the way to go--the way to make more materials more widely accessible in the future, and the future starts today. Let's commit, though, to not "paint with such broad brush strokes" about the issues surrounding digitization. Let's dialog openly and soberly about the reality of the situation. Let's look at reality with eyes wide open. Let's not take easy, comfortable yet fallacious approaches to the challenges that face us--like no more microfilm companies means no more microfilm use. And let's commit to "keeping the baby!"

Before anyone thinks, oh my, here's another Luddite librarian speaking, please know that is not the case. At the risk of sounding immodest, I am on the lead team of every digitizing initiative here at the Allen County Public Library where we have digitizing partnerships with four major outside organizations, three rather robust websites [www.ACPL.Info/Genealogy, www.GenealogyCenter.Info, and www.GenealogyCenter.Info/Military] on which we are posting indexed and digitized data in an effort to provide exponentially greater, free access to historical data, and we have published more than 15K local history photographic images in our library's "Community Album." And just wait until you see what we have planned for our newly acquire Lincoln Collection over the next 12 to 24 months. In addition, our Genealogy Center continues to partner with WeRelate.org in promoting the genealogical community's largest wiki-- with individual pages for over 2,000,000 people and families. It is a fantastic use of contemporary technology to place significant quantities of data on the web, and make that data searchable and findable, for free use by interested researchers. As a non-Luddite, I simply believe that it is not necessary to throw the baby out with the bath water.

Curt B. Witcher, MLS, FUGA, IGSF Manager, Genealogy Center NE Director, Indiana Genealogical Society Allen County Public Library P. O. Box 2270, 900 Library Plaza Fort Wayne, IN 46801-2270 [email protected] 260-421-1226 Fax: 260-421-1386 ======The views, opinions, and judgments expressed in this message are solely those of the author. The message contents have not been reviewed or approved by the Allen County Public Library. ======

>>> [email protected] 3/4/2009 9:52 AM >>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Beth Oljace wrote: > Dick Eastman can jabber all he wants about the death of microfilm...

Beth, I think it's unfair to characterize Dick's position on this issue as "jabbering". Let's look at some specific points he has recently made:

Now, are you disputing those specific statements of his? If not, where exactly is the "jabbering"?

Drew Smith Tampa, FL ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib From lmaehrlein at nygbs.org Wed Mar 4 15:02:05 2009 From: lmaehrlein at nygbs.org (Lauren Maehrlein) Date: Wed Mar 4 15:02:07 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future/microfilm References: <[email protected]> Message-ID:

Hi Folks - The NYG&B is moving to new headquarters. The bulk of our library collection is now housed at the New York Public Library, so we no longer have a need for our microfilm readers. If anyone might be interested in a reader for their library, please let me know. I will put together a list of the model numbers and send it to any interested parties. Of course you'll need to provide for the pick-up and delivery of the readers, but other than that they're free for the asking. With best wishes,

Lauren Maehrlein, MA Director of Education The New York Genealogical & Biographical Society 122 East 58th Street New York, NY 10022-1939 212-755-8532, ext. 36 www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20090304/26f95fe6/ attachment.html From bpowell at aclib.us Wed Mar 4 15:04:50 2009 From: bpowell at aclib.us (Bobby Powell) Date: Wed Mar 4 15:03:55 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID:

Claire,

We are buying "locally-relevant microfilm." In fact, yesterday I took the current Polk City Directory, Bellsouth Telephone Directory, and Hill-Donnelly Cross-Reference Directory to be microfilmed (there is a company in our town that does this). And we will purchase all microfilm for the State of Florida when the 1940 census is released. We definitely understand the value, in terms of shelf-life, of microfilm.

Bobby Ruth Powell Alachua County Library District 401 East University Avenue Gainesville FL 32601 www.aclib.us [email protected]

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Claire Kluskens Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:35 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future

Some old photos fell out of a damaged package at the US Post Office here in Cheyenne, Wyoming. The Post Office won't give them to us because they are mail for someone else, but they did let us make copies of the photos so me could try to identify who they belong to... I'm hoping that one of you might recognize a name or two and might help us find a descendent willing to claim this at the Post Office.

Fortunately they were labeled on the back in the manner below. I haven't yet searched Ancestry for a living descendent, but may do that. And I haven't posted them on someplace like DeadFred but may do that. We do have the photocopies sitting out in our genealogy room hoping that a Cheyenne genealogist might identify the family:

The names are:

Sudie (ARNETT) PATRICK d: Oct 2004

Dora (HOWARD) ARNETT b: 12 Sep 1892 d: Jan 1966

Bessie "Bess" (HOWARD) JACKSON b: 19 Mar 1896 d:21 Oct 1973

Delphia (LACY) HOWARD b: 31 May 1870 d: 13 Jan 1951

Proctor "Prock" HOWARD b: 14 Nov 1874 d: 22 May 1946

Garrett & Dora HOWARD ARNETT

Elbert & Bess (HOWARD) JACKSON

Jessie (HOWARD) ARNETT b: 6 Mar 1895 d: 19 Mar 1928

Luther HOWARD b: 16 Nov 1908 d: 12 Oct 1977

Celia (HOWARD) BARNETT b: 2 Feb 1905 d: 23 May 1921

Please contact me if you have any leads on this family.

Elaine

Elaine Jones Hayes Assistant Manager - Reference Services, Special Collections Librarian - Family & Local History Laramie County Library System 2200 Pioneer Avenue Cheyenne, Wyoming 82001 [email protected] 307-773-7232 ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20090304/ a36fcaa2/attachment.html From SUBVETPAUL at aol.com Wed Mar 4 17:17:58 2009 From: SUBVETPAUL at aol.com ([email protected]) Date: Wed Mar 4 17:18:02 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Lost photos - Arnett-Patrick-Howard-Jackson-Lacy families Message-ID:

In a message dated 03/04/2009 4:11:36 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes:

The names are:

Sudie (ARNETT) PATRICK d: Oct 2004

Dora (HOWARD) ARNETT b: 12 Sep 1892 d: Jan 1966

Bessie "Bess" (HOWARD) JACKSON b: 19 Mar 1896 d:21 Oct 1973

Delphia (LACY) HOWARD b: 31 May 1870 d: 13 Jan 1951

Proctor "Prock" HOWARD b: 14 Nov 1874 d: 22 May 1946

Garrett & Dora HOWARD ARNETT

Elbert & Bess (HOWARD) JACKSON

Jessie (HOWARD) ARNETT b: 6 Mar 1895 d: 19 Mar 1928

Luther HOWARD b: 16 Nov 1908 d: 12 Oct 1977

Celia (HOWARD) BARNETT b: 2 Feb 1905 d: 23 May 1921

Please contact me if you have any leads on this family.

Elaine

No leads of any merit in my data base of men who perished during WWII. **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search? query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000005) ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20090304/3e809155/ attachment.html From Munroe at oshkoshpubliclibrary.org Wed Mar 4 17:27:25 2009 From: Munroe at oshkoshpubliclibrary.org (Mara Munroe) Date: Wed Mar 4 17:28:54 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Lost photos - Arnett-Patrick-Howard-Jackson-Lacy families In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

According to SSDI, Sudie (ARNETT) PATRICK died 5 October 2004 in Washtenaw County , Michigan

Bessie Jackson died in Royalton, Magoffin County, Kentucky.

Luther Howard born d 16 Nov 1907, died Magoffin County, Kentucky

All numbers issued in Kentucky.

I vote for contacting the Magoffin County KY Historical Society: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kymhs/

Mara B. Munroe Local and Family History Librarian Oshkosh Public Library Oshkosh WI 54901-4985 "History is where the evidence leads us; heritage is what we choose to remember and celebrate." Edward T. Linenthal, May 2005

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elaine Hayes Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 4:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Lost photos - Arnett-Patrick-Howard-Jackson-Lacy families

The names are:

Sudie (ARNETT) PATRICK d: Oct 2004

Dora (HOWARD) ARNETT b: 12 Sep 1892 d: Jan 1966

Bessie "Bess" (HOWARD) JACKSON b: 19 Mar 1896 d:21 Oct 1973

Delphia (LACY) HOWARD b: 31 May 1870 d: 13 Jan 1951

Proctor "Prock" HOWARD b: 14 Nov 1874 d: 22 May 1946

Garrett & Dora HOWARD ARNETT

Elbert & Bess (HOWARD) JACKSON

Jessie (HOWARD) ARNETT b: 6 Mar 1895 d: 19 Mar 1928

Luther HOWARD b: 16 Nov 1908 d: 12 Oct 1977

Celia (HOWARD) BARNETT b: 2 Feb 1905 d: 23 May 1921

Please contact me if you have any leads on this family.

Elaine

Elaine Jones Hayes Assistant Manager - Reference Services,

Special Collections Librarian - Family & Local History Laramie County Library System 2200 Pioneer Avenue Cheyenne, Wyoming 82001 [email protected] 307-773-7232

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Thanks

>>> "Mara Munroe" 3/4/2009 3:27 PM >>>

According to SSDI, Sudie (ARNETT) PATRICK died 5 October 2004 in Washtenaw County , Michigan

Bessie Jackson died in Royalton, Magoffin County, Kentucky.

Luther Howard born d 16 Nov 1907, died Magoffin County, Kentucky

All numbers issued in Kentucky.

I vote for contacting the Magoffin County KY Historical Society: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kymhs/

Mara B. Munroe Local and Family History Librarian Oshkosh Public Library Oshkosh WI 54901-4985

?History is where the evidence leads us; heritage is what we choose to remember and celebrate.? Edward T. Linenthal, May 2005

From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elaine Hayes Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 4:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Lost photos - Arnett-Patrick-Howard-Jackson-Lacy families

The names are:

Sudie (ARNETT) PATRICK d: Oct 2004

Dora (HOWARD) ARNETT b: 12 Sep 1892 d: Jan 1966

Bessie "Bess" (HOWARD) JACKSON b: 19 Mar 1896 d:21 Oct 1973

Delphia (LACY) HOWARD b: 31 May 1870 d: 13 Jan 1951

Proctor "Prock" HOWARD b: 14 Nov 1874 d: 22 May 1946

Garrett & Dora HOWARD ARNETT

Elbert & Bess (HOWARD) JACKSON

Jessie (HOWARD) ARNETT b: 6 Mar 1895 d: 19 Mar 1928

Luther HOWARD b: 16 Nov 1908 d: 12 Oct 1977

Celia (HOWARD) BARNETT b: 2 Feb 1905 d: 23 May 1921

Please contact me if you have any leads on this family.

Elaine

Elaine Jones Hayes Assistant Manager - Reference Services,

Special Collections Librarian - Family & Local History Laramie County Library System 2200 Pioneer Avenue Cheyenne, Wyoming 82001 [email protected] 307-773-7232 ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20090304/ cce93216/attachment-0001.html From dlwilson at pwcgov.org Wed Mar 4 19:14:43 2009 From: dlwilson at pwcgov.org (Wilson, Donald L) Date: Wed Mar 4 19:14:46 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Lost photos -Arnett-Patrick-Howard-Jackson-Lacyfamilies In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID:

The family is found in the 1910 U.S. census, Magoffin County, Kentucky, Lakeville, sheet 3B, dwelling 51, family 52: Proctor HOWARD, 35, born Kentucky; wife Delpha, 36, Ky; and 6 children: Dora 17, Jessie 16, Bessie 15, Celia 8, Curtis 5, and Luther 1y 2m.

Donald L. Wilson, Virginiana Librarian, Ruth E. Lloyd Information Center for Genealogy and Local History (RELIC), Prince William Public Library System, Bull Run Regional Library, 8051 Ashton Avenue, Manassas, VA 20110-2892 703-792-4540 www.pwcgov.org/library/relic

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elaine Hayes Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:31 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: RE: [Genealib] Lost photos -Arnett-Patrick-Howard-Jackson-Lacyfamilies

Thanks

>>> "Mara Munroe" 3/4/2009 3:27 PM >>>

According to SSDI, Sudie (ARNETT) PATRICK died 5 October 2004 in Washtenaw County , Michigan

Bessie Jackson died in Royalton, Magoffin County, Kentucky.

Luther Howard born d 16 Nov 1907, died Magoffin County, Kentucky

All numbers issued in Kentucky.

I vote for contacting the Magoffin County KY Historical Society: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kymhs/

Mara B. Munroe Local and Family History Librarian Oshkosh Public Library Oshkosh WI 54901-4985

"History is where the evidence leads us; heritage is what we choose to remember and celebrate." Edward T. Linenthal, May 2005

______

The names are:

Sudie (ARNETT) PATRICK d: Oct 2004

Dora (HOWARD) ARNETT b: 12 Sep 1892 d: Jan 1966

Bessie "Bess" (HOWARD) JACKSON b: 19 Mar 1896 d:21 Oct 1973

Delphia (LACY) HOWARD b: 31 May 1870 d: 13 Jan 1951

Proctor "Prock" HOWARD b: 14 Nov 1874 d: 22 May 1946

Garrett & Dora HOWARD ARNETT

Elbert & Bess (HOWARD) JACKSON

Jessie (HOWARD) ARNETT b: 6 Mar 1895 d: 19 Mar 1928

Luther HOWARD b: 16 Nov 1908 d: 12 Oct 1977

Celia (HOWARD) BARNETT b: 2 Feb 1905 d: 23 May 1921

Please contact me if you have any leads on this family.

Elaine

Elaine Jones Hayes Assistant Manager - Reference Services,

Special Collections Librarian - Family & Local History Laramie County Library System 2200 Pioneer Avenue Cheyenne, Wyoming 82001 [email protected] 307-773-7232

------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20090304/ e7fee7af/attachment.html From Larry.Naukam at libraryweb.org Wed Mar 4 20:18:14 2009 From: Larry.Naukam at libraryweb.org (Naukam, Larry) Date: Wed Mar 4 20:23:17 2009 Subject: [Genealib] RE: buying the 1940 census References: <[email protected]> Message-ID:

We would definitely buy at least our city and county of the 1940 census. Of course it won't be released till 2012 and I likely won't be working here any more, but I would encourage my successor to buy it. There is no assurance at all that we will continue to be able to pay for subscriptions to online sources, or even be able to afford computers and net access for them. That's why I would very much want to see films version available for use. If financially possible, I would like to be able to have access to the entire nation via online, but if forced to make a choice, it would be for local films.

Yes, I know that money comes and goes, but we have to be able to help people now. From Larry.Naukam at libraryweb.org Wed Mar 4 20:35:28 2009 From: Larry.Naukam at libraryweb.org (Naukam, Larry) Date: Wed Mar 4 20:35:35 2009 Subject: [Genealib] RE: looking to the future References: <[email protected]> Message-ID:

Curt has stated what I feel much more eloquently than I could hope to. But it's the truth that making things available digitally enhances access to the using public. Whatever we here in Rochester have digitized, we have still kept the originals and where possible have made microfilm versions available as well as the original.

We feel that we have a great start to a digitized version for Rochester area research. But we also know that digital is not the only answer - it's right now a useful way to make things much more available than they traditionally have been.

And yet - we have had to reduce the digi staff by 25 percent in the last couple of months because of the budget cutbacks. I don't know when they might be able to be reinstated. That means than a lot of plans have to be put on hold. And yet, part two - we are learning how to get grants to finance this work, and make partnerships. Twice today I had calls from the public wanting to know how they can donate finds for this work to go on, and you can better believe that I made time to talk with them. We recently had a lady whose father was a Korean War hero give us his papers. And I sat there while she wrote a check for $10000 dollars to pay for the staff to make this happen.

It's an exciting time to be in this field - getting collections used more, making more people happier, and learning how to get more resources to make this happen. From tinster2 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 4 23:04:52 2009 From: tinster2 at yahoo.com ([email protected]) Date: Thu Mar 5 09:17:38 2009 Subject: [Genealib] MARCH: International Women's Day and Women's History Month Message-ID: <[email protected]>

MARCH: International Women's Day and Women's History Month

Each year around the world, International Women's Day (IWD) is celebrated on March 8.? In the United States of America, March is designated Women's History Month.

To commemorate and honor these events, History and Social Studies?is now?thoroughly http://www.academic-genealogy.com/historysocialstudies.htm updated, including section: Women in History. http://www.academic-genealogy.com/historysocialstudies.htm#Women_In_History

* WOMEN IN HISTORY: Women's History: WWW Virtual Library ?? - GENESIS ???? Research into women's history. ???? - A-Z List of Information Resources for the Study of Women's History ???? - Digitised Collections ???? - Early Modern Women Database ???? - History of Women ???? - Imagining Ourselves: A Global Generation of Women ?????? International Museum of Women. ???? - USA: Women Working 1800 - 1930 ???? - Women in the Middle Ages: Engines of Our Ingenuity Links ???? - Women's History - Intute: Social Sciences ?? - International Women's Day ???? - Women's History Month (Library of Congress) ?? - List of Women's Organizations ???? - International Information Centre and Archives for the Women's Movement ?????? Women?s history, lives and experiences, ?????? as well as the position of women in society. ?????? - Database Websites on Women: Country Specific Websites ???????? Descriptions of and links to national and international websites ???????? with information on the position of women and women's studies. ?????? - Mapping the World of Women's Information Services: All Countries ???????? Online database in which you can find information on women's ???????? information centres and libraries that are open to the public. ?????? - Women's Thesaurus ???????? Subjects for the retrieval of information on ???????? the position of women and women?s studies. ???? - LDS Women (Mormon) of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints ?????? - Relief Society:Relief Society ???????? - Introduction: "Charity Never Faileth" ???????? - Relief Society ???????? - Relief Society Art ?????? - Young Women ???- Searching for Female Ancestors (pdf) ???? Research sources for tracing women. ???? - Cyndi's List - Female Ancestors ???? - Elusive Women ???? - Female Ancestors ???? - Finding Female Ancestors ???? - Notable Women Ancestors ???? - Women's Biographies: Biography Data Worldwide ?????? Distinguished women of past and present. ?? - Women's Studies ???? - Association of College and Research Libraries Women's Studies Section ?????? - WSSLinks: Women and Gender Studies Web Sites ???? - Center for Women and Information Technology ?????? - Women's Studies Programs Worldwide ?????? - Women's Studies - Women's Issues Resource Sites ???? - Centres for Women's History, Women's and Gender Studies ???? - Intute: Social Sciences - Women's Studies ???? - New York Public Library - Women's Studies Research Guide ???? - University of Wisconsin System Women's Studies Librarian ?????? - Women of Various Countries, Ethnicities, Races, and Other Group Identities

Respectfully yours,

Tom Tinney, Sr. Who's Who in America, Millennium Edition [54th] through 2004 Who's Who In Genealogy and Heraldry, [both editions] Family Genealogy & History Internet Education Directory http://www.academic-genealogy.com/ ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20090304/22ea26e5/ attachment.html From cbarkleyis at verizon.net Thu Mar 5 12:01:23 2009 From: cbarkleyis at verizon.net (Carolyn Barkley) Date: Thu Mar 5 12:01:29 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Last chance for survey participation Message-ID: <7C1413CA654C4851A7396357DFA0205D@D8X7Q1B1>

In January I posted a survey from Genealogical Publishing Company concerning the library purchasing environment. I really need to analyze the results, but thought I would give you a last chance to participate if you did not the first time around. You can participate at: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=yOvlXRChqeNFwqFL2kjAew_3d_3d If at all possible, please respond by Monday morning, 9 March. Thanks in advance for your time.

To the 68 of you who responded, THANK YOU.

I'll let you know when the analysis report is available.

Carolyn

Carolyn L. Barkley

RR 1 Box 710

Roseland, VA 22967

434-325-1161 [email protected]

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Our research note for March explains how to read Minnesota land descriptions and find clues for additional research. There is also information about on-line landowner maps for Minnesota.

You can find it at http://www.parkbooks.com/Html/res_l_ds.html

Other notes are linked through our research page http://www.parkbooks.com/Html/research.html

I've started a new blog too, looking forward to the upcoming sesquicentennials of the Civil War (Minnesota offered the first troops for the Union Army) and the Dakota War of 1862. You can find that at http://parkbooks.blogspot.com

Happy researching!

Mary Bakeman Park Genealogical Books From dlwilson at pwcgov.org Thu Mar 5 20:59:18 2009 From: dlwilson at pwcgov.org (Wilson, Donald L) Date: Thu Mar 5 20:59:21 2009 Subject: [Genealib] What's New in RELIC (March 2009) Message-ID:

WHAT'S NEW IN RELIC

March 2009

The Ruth E. Lloyd Information Center for Genealogy and Local History (RELIC), Prince William Public Library System, Bull Run Regional Library, 8051 Ashton Avenue, Manassas, VA 20109. 703-792-4540 Email: [email protected] .

To read the latest lists of new materials available in RELIC click on http://www.pwcgov.org/library/relic/new_acquisitions.htm . This month's listings include a large group of donations from the Prince William County Genealogical Society.

CHURCHILL PHOTOGRAPHS ON DISPLAY

AT BULL RUN LIBRARY

Roxana Adams, curator of the Manassas Museum, has assembled an exhibit of the work of Manassas photographer Howard Churchill currently on display at Bull Run Regional Library until the end of March. The photos are displayed just inside the entrance of the library.

Churchill, a native of New York City, moved to Manassas after World War II and set up a photographic studio. He also took many news and human interest photos for local newspapers. This sampling of his work covers the 1940s through the 1960s and shows the wide range of his interests.

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RELIC PROGRAMS

Here are our latest offerings. Funding for RELIC programs is provided by the Friends of Central and Bull Run Libraries. Sign language interpretation is available for Prince William Public Library programs if requested at least three weeks in advance. To be notified of upcoming programs and new resources in RELIC, visit http://www.pwcgov.org/library/relic/whats_new_in_relic.htm and click on Subscribe to What's New in RELIC. All these programs will take place at the community room at Bull Run Regional Library, 8051 Ashton Avenue, Manassas, VA. You may register for any of these programs at 703-792-4540 or [email protected] . For details see http://www.pwcgov.org/library/relic/relic_programs.htm

March 22, 2 pm - Genealogy 101, presented by Bev Veness.

March 24, 7 pm - Genealogical Standards of Proof, presented by Tom Jones, Ph.d., CG, CGL, FASG.

April 9, 11 am - Finding Your Revolutionary War Ancestor, presented by Don Wilson April 28, 7 pm - Finding Your Revolutionary War Ancestor (repeat of April 9 program)

The Genealogy Doctor is In

Schedule a private, 30-minute visit with RELIC's Don Wilson to discuss an historical or genealogical problem that has stumped you. Please call 703-792-4540 for a free appointment.

March 19, April 2 and 16 - 10 am-noon.

Sunday, March 22, 2 p.m.

Genealogy 101

Presented by Beverly Veness

Family history enthusiasts will have an opportunity to learn about methods, strategies and resources for tracing their roots at a free session sponsored by RELIC. The hour-long program, conducted by Beverly Veness of the RELIC staff, is scheduled for Sunday, March 22, 2009 at 2 p.m.

Both beginners and those who have dabbled in various aspects of their family heritage will benefit from this presentation, which will highlight the numerous free genealogical resources available at RELIC.

To register for this free program, email [email protected], or call RELIC at (703) 792-4540 or TTY: (703) 792-4524.

Tuesday, March 24, 7 p.m.

What is the Standard of Proof in Genealogy?

Presented by Thomas W. Jones

Researching your family's history has become easier than ever with the availability of internet databases devoted to genealogy, digitized books and images, and email. But how much of what you find is accurate? Learn about the accepted standard of proof in genealogy from certified genealogist Thomas W. Jones, Ph.D. in a free program scheduled for Tuesday, March 24, 2009 at 7 p.m. at the Bull Run Regional Library, 8051 Ashton Avenue, Manassas, Va.

Dr. Jones will explain the Genealogical Proof Standard, its five elements, and how each contributes to convincing proof. Examples will demonstrate the standard's application to simple and complex situations that genealogists frequently encounter. It will answer the question, "How much evidence is enough for proof?"

Jones is joint editor of the National Genealogical Society Quarterly, trustee and a past president of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, a current board member and former trustee of the Association of Professional Genealogists, and recipient of its 2004 Grahame T. Smallwood Jr. Award of Merit. An active genealogist since his teens, Jones writes and speaks frequently on genealogical methods that have broad application across geographic areas, time periods, and levels of expertise.

To register for this free program email [email protected], or call RELIC at (703) 792-4540 or TTY: (703) 792-4524.

To be notified of upcoming programs and new resources in RELIC, visit http://www.pwcgov.org/library/relic/whats_new_in_relic.htm

Have a question about Prince William County history, places or families? Need guidance with your genealogical research?

You may contact RELIC staff for help and advice at Ask RELIC or by calling us at 703-792-4540.

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A patron asked me about the 1830 census. One area in West KY, instead of being labeled with a county name, is referred to as "South of the Cumberland River". Anybody know why this was used instead of a county name. I checked a few sources I have about Kentucky and censuses and didn't find anything.

Tracy E. Luscombe

Genealogy Librarian

McKinney Public Library System

McKinney, TX [email protected]

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Maybe this was the case because the state of Kentucky was reforming counties about that time and it could be that the census enumerator did not know the county name in that particular area and just used the geographical notation.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tracy Luscombe Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Anybody know about Kentucky

Tracy E. Luscombe

Genealogy Librarian

McKinney Public Library System

McKinney, TX [email protected]

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I haven't worked in my home state in many years, but I know Kentucky had a multitude of county creations and boundary changes leading up to the current 120 counties. Kentucky not only formed new counties from parts of one or more counties, but the counties themselves dickered over parcels of land on their borders and transferred them to each other. The reference to the Cumberland River can be confusing to those without a map, since the Cumberland River starts in south central Kentucky, where you will find Cumberland Lake, then dips down into Tennessee where it runs west, then angles back north into Kentucky, where you will find Lake Barkley, neither lake existing, I think, prior to the modern Corps of Engineers dams. I am not sure how far west your unidentified land lies.

I have a copy of Kentucky Ancestry: A Guide to Genealogical and Historical Research by Roseann Hogan that offers a couple of handy charts relating to this subject. I skimmed through the county creation dates and did not see one formed circa 1830; however, at the time of the census the boundary in this particular area could have been in question, or a deal underway to transfer the land, and the "owning" county had not been determined yet. In 1830, Cumberland County transferred land to Monroe County, which could fit the description of land below the Cumberland River, but I would consider that south central Kentucky, not west.

Hope this helps.

Susan Scouras Librarian WV Archives and History Library The Cultural Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd. East Charleston, WV 25305-0300 (304) 558-0230, Ext. 742

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tracy Luscombe Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 11:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Anybody know about Kentucky

Tracy E. Luscombe

Genealogy Librarian

McKinney Public Library System

McKinney, TX

[email protected]

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I called the public library in Cumberland to see if they could offer any insight into this. The librarian said he wasn't aware of a section that was labeled only South of the Cumberland River in the 1830 census. He said there is one that is labeled Cumberland County South of the Cumberland River. I wonder if your patron maybe misread it? It is very faint and scribbled in the left hand corner. He said that is the major geographic distinction used for most things such as the census, because the river cuts down the middle of the county. He said often they would use North or South of the river as an identifier instead of township names, etc. Hope this helps.

Jennifer Daugherty Director of Reference and Information Services Laurel County Public Library London, KY 606-864-5759

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From: [email protected] on behalf of Tracy Luscombe Sent: Mon 3/9/2009 11:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Anybody know about Kentucky

Tracy E. Luscombe

Genealogy Librarian

McKinney Public Library System

McKinney, TX [email protected]

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Tracy,

Could you provide exactly where the patron found the citation? Maybe seeing the comment in the context of the document may provide some clues.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tracy Luscombe Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Anybody know about Kentucky

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McKinney, TX [email protected]

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Hope this helps.

Susan Scouras Librarian WV Archives and History Library The Cultural Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd. East Charleston, WV 25305-0300 (304) 558-0230, Ext. 742

Tracy E. Luscombe

Genealogy Librarian

McKinney Public Library System

McKinney, TX

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Jennifer Daugherty Director of Reference and Information Services Laurel County Public Library London, KY 606-864-5759

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McKinney Public Library System

McKinney, TX [email protected]

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Ohio Memory - Next Generation website launches

The State Library of Ohio and Ohio Historical Society are pleased to announce the March 2nd launch of the Ohio Memory - Next Generation website (www.ohiomemory.org ). The website, a redesign of the Ohio Memory project, features 75,000 historical images and information from 330 archives, historical societies, libraries and museums. The new site has been improved to make it easier to find and contribute images, information, and documents. Users can search and browse all collections or an individual collection by subject, place or contributor.

"People are used to one-stop shopping and retrieval of information. The new website allows users to find documents, portraits, and photographs on any given subject quickly and easily," said State Librarian Jo Budler. "It is wonderful that our partnership with the Ohio Historical Society allowed us to move our collections to a new and improved platform."

The Ohio Memory - Next Generation site is a collaborative project of the State Library of Ohio and Ohio Historical Society. In addition to all of the resources on the original website, the State Library has contributed part of its Ohio documents digital collection that includes a vast selection of publications produced on the web by state agencies. The publications include many annual reports, health and population statistics, natural resources guides and pamphlets including: Trails for Ohioans a plan for the future , 20 Questions to ask a lender or mortgage broker , and 2006 population estimates for cities, villages & townships .

"We are beginning to scan print materials from our rare Ohio state government collection. The staff is scanning annual reports from the 1800s to early 1900s. Current titles include: Annual Report of the Ohio Soldiers' and Sailors Orphans' Home; Ohio Institution for the Education of the Deaf and Dumb; and Annual Reports of Longview Hospital," said Jim Buchman, head of Patron & Catalog Services at the State Library of Ohio. "These publications include rosters of individuals and will be of interest to the genealogy community." For example, a recently scanned document is the Known military dead during the Spanish American War and the Philippines Insurrection, 1898-1901 .

Ohio Memory began as a state bicentennial project in 2000 to build a searchable database of digital images celebrating Ohio's history. Hundreds of historical societies, museums and libraries from all over Ohio contributed more than 25,000 images to the project. The collection continues to grow. "The [new] site increases access to Ohio's past and the individual stories that make up the fabric of our nation's and Ohio's history," said Angela O'Neil, manager of Preservation and Access Services at the Ohio Historical Society.

The Ohio Memory project was originally funded by the Ohio Public Library Information Network, Ohio Bicentennial Commission and a federal Institute for Museum and Library Services/Library Services Technology Act grant awarded by the State Library of Ohio.

For more information contact Jim Buchman, Head Patron & Catalog Services, State Library of Ohio: [email protected]

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If you're close enough, come join us!

TEXAS GENEALOGY CONFERENCE: July 16-17-18, 2009

Mark your calendar for the 13th annual Angelina College Genealogy Conference in Lufkin, Texas.

new speakers - new topics & workshops - new vendors.

Plan to register ASAP as we have several new items on the schedule. Early registration is strongly suggested -- You don't want to be left out. Read the registration form carefully - watch the various deadline dates.

Two optional all-day Thursday sessions.

The regular conference on Friday & Saturday. ** with a choice of three all day Saturday sessions that can be substituted for the 'regular' Friday schedule at no extra cost.** Two Saturday programs (DNA & Cemeteries) may be registered as a "Saturday only" selection.

Take a look at the full program http://www.angelina.edu/genealogy.htm and we'll climb the STEPS TO SUCCESS together!

If you have comments or questions (about hotels, etc.), please let me know. Reply off list, please, to [email protected]

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Thanks to everyone who gave me info on the Kentucky census question. I'll pass them on to my patron. I expect he just didn't see any extra notation about it being Cumberland County, or the county had not been firmly established yet.

Tracy E. Luscombe

Genealogy Librarian

McKinney Public Library System

McKinney, TX [email protected]

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An act for forming Cumberland County, Kentucky (from a portion of Green County) was approved on December 14, 1798. It was effective on July 1, 1799.

This information is from the Kentucky Counties Formation database on the Kentucky Land Office site through the Office of the Kentucky Secretary of State. Reference: Microfilm Roll #1 - Governor James Garrard: Executive Journal & Enrolled Bills http://www.sos.ky.gov/land/

Thanks,

Vonnie Shelton Local and Family History Librarian McCracken County Public Library 555 Washington Street Paducah, KY 42003 270-442-2510 Ext. 24 [email protected] www.mclib.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Tracy Luscombe To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 1:28 PM Subject: [Genealib] Thanks for replies on Kentucky

Tracy E. Luscombe

Genealogy Librarian

McKinney Public Library System

McKinney, TX

[email protected]

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Here are the readers that we have:

Fiche reader: Micron 780

Motorized Indus Super Carrel (several)

Manual ST Imaging Gideon 900 (three)

Manual Kodak Kodagraph

Must be removed from premises before May 1, 2009.

Lauren Maehrlein, MA

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122 East 58th Street

New York, NY 10022-1939

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We are pleased to announce that the 2009 Genealogy Jamboree will feature a free three-hour session specifically for librarians. Learn practical tools for harried librarians trying to provide the best service to genealogists. Keep current on the best resources - online and in print - and services you should be providing in your library. The course will be held Friday, June 26 from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 noon at the Burbank Marriott Hotel and Convention Center in Burbank, California.

"Genealogy Boot Camp for Librarians" will be taught by Thomas Jay Kemp. Tom is a well-known librarian and archivist. He is a member of the board of directors of the Federation of Genealogical Societies, on the Genealogy Committee of the ALA, and the editor of the Local History & Genealogy Librarian and Local History & Genealogy Librarian News.

There is no cost for this session. However, we do request that you register for the session online through the Jamboree shopping cart at http://tinyurl.com/c977ey.

If you are interested in reviewing the schedule, speakers, and exhibitors, please visit the Jamboree section of the SCGS website at www.scgsgenealogy.com. This year's Jamboree will feature more than 100 presentations by 55 speakers, plus a full exhibit hall and lots of special events. The ethnic track will focus on British Isles research. Our Friday night banquet speaker is Dr. Tukufu Zuberi, host of the PBS series "History Detectives." Jamboree will be held Friday through Sunday, June 26-28 in Burbank. The conference is sponsored by the Southern California Genealogical Society.

We look forward to seeing you in June!

Paula Hinkel, Jamboree Co-Chair

From riffelj at bellsouth.net Thu Mar 12 14:39:07 2009 From: riffelj at bellsouth.net (JUDY A RIFFEL) Date: Thu Mar 12 14:39:09 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry & newspapers Message-ID:

Can anyone tell me if the newspaper collection is available on Ancestry.com's Library Edition?

Thanks.

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It is not. The newspaper collection was created by Gale. When ProQuest began distributing the product the newspaper portion was not a part of it.

Janice

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From: [email protected] on behalf of JUDY A RIFFEL Sent: Thu 3/12/2009 1:39 PM To: genealib Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry & newspapers

Can anyone tell me if the newspaper collection is available on Ancestry.com's Library Edition?

Thanks.

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In AncestryLibrary.com, under Complete Title Listing, record type Newspapers and Periodicals, 44 entries are listed. The newspaper listings consist mostly of obituary indexes.

Vonnie Shelton Local and Family History Librarian McCracken County Public Library 555 Washington Street Paducah, KY 42003 270-442-2510 Ext. 24 [email protected] www.mclib.net ----- Original Message ----- From: JUDY A RIFFEL To: genealib Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:39 PM Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry & newspapers

Can anyone tell me if the newspaper collection is available on Ancestry.com's Library Edition?

Thanks.

Judy Riffel Baton Rouge

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/Emergency aid for the Sufferers--Claims from the Dakota Conflict/ is now available. This volume includes the financial requests of the terror-stricken settlers who fled their homes to seek safety, as well as reimbursement requests from those who provided shelter, food and clothing for them. Steamboat passenger lists from down river trip contrast with the claims for military supplies the steamboats transported up river. Those still needing aid in January of 1863 are listed, mostly widows and their families, trying to survive and return to normal lives.

These transcriptions and extracts are from the original records in the State Archives at the Minnesota Historical Society. The two main sections outline the providers and recipients of aid at the local level of government, and the state and county government activities to help them. A lengthy index encourages the tracing of specific individuals and families as they move back to their homes, or out of the state for good.

Details for ordering can be found at .

Mary Bakeman Park Genealogical Books blog at

From DROHAN at state.wy.us Mon Mar 16 17:59:47 2009 From: DROHAN at state.wy.us (Dawn Rohan) Date: Mon Mar 16 17:59:54 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Historic Wyoming newspapers online References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Discover the stories that formed Wyoming with the Wyoming Newspaper Project

The Wyoming State Library is making available to Web researchers full-text access to the first set of historical Wyoming newspapers. This project involves digitizing a 70-year comprehensive statewide collection of Wyoming newspapers from 1849 to 1922.

This first collection release will cover selected years, ranging from 1867 to 1922, of over 200 titles such as The Cheyenne Daily Leader, The Laramie Sentinel (weekly and daily), The Natrona County Tribune, The South Pass News, The Torrington Telegram and The Inter-Mountain Globe. These issues are now available at www.wyonewspapers.org. Researchers can access the individual issues through keyword searching or browsing through the collection by title, year, city or county.

Funding for the project was made possible by the Wyoming Legislature, the support of Governor Dave Freudenthal, and the Library Services and Technology Act federal program. All of the metadata was created by residents of Wyoming.

Dawn Rohan Intellectual Property Librarian Wyoming State Library Cheyenne, WY 82002 [email protected] 307-777-7281

Email to and from me, in connection with the transaction of public business, is subject to the Wyoming Public Records Act and may be disclosed to third parties. From Sseniawski at aol.com Mon Mar 16 18:03:28 2009 From: Sseniawski at aol.com ([email protected]) Date: Mon Mar 16 18:05:26 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Historic Wyoming newspapers online Message-ID:

Thanx Dawn,

We're very excited about this. Lesley and Erin spoke to our genealogical society in February. News of your going live went out to the members today.

Thanx again.

Sue.

In a message dated 3/16/2009 4:00:33 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:

Discover the stories that formed Wyoming with the Wyoming Newspaper Project

Dawn Rohan Intellectual Property Librarian Wyoming State Library Cheyenne, WY 82002 [email protected] 307-777-7281

Email to and from me, in connection with the transaction of public business, is subject to the Wyoming Public Records Act and may be disclosed to third parties.

______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219850974x1201371016/aol?redir=http:%2F %2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20090316/6d1e956f/ attachment.html From rzepczynskik at michigan.gov Tue Mar 17 10:53:49 2009 From: rzepczynskik at michigan.gov (Kris Rzepczynski) Date: Tue Mar 17 10:54:03 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Michigan death records, 1897-1920, now appearing online Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Here is an exciting announcement for Michigan researchers.

The Library of Michigan today launched a free Web site that will feature nearly 1 million Michigan death certificates never before available electronically. These death certificates for the years 1897 to 1920 hold tremendous research opportunities for genealogists, historians and students ? as well as anyone interested in Michigan?s rich heritage.

These records are online at www.seekingmichigan.org, the brand-new, one-stop shop for Michigan historical records. Seeking Michigan is a partnership between the Library of Michigan and the Archives of Michigan, which also has digitized state records for this Web site.

?Previously people had to visit the Library of Michigan to view these records on microfilm, or order them for a fee from the state vital records office or a county clerk,? Special Collections Manager Randy Riley said. ?Now anyone in the world can go online to Seeking Michigan and find the record of interest to them within minutes and at no cost.?

The Library of Michigan?s Abrams Foundation Historical Collection is one of the top 10 genealogy collections in the United States. The Abrams Foundation, which has given the library more than $2 million since the 1980s, funded the death records digitization.

In addition to having the records digitized, the Library had them indexed for easy searching by name, death date, location, age and more. As of today, about 25 percent of the nearly 1 million death records have been added. The remaining death records should be online within the next month.

?Offering this extensive collection of death records online puts Michigan at the forefront of vital records digitization nationwide,? Riley said. ?Researchers are coming to expect online access to information, and we?re glad to deliver. We hope this Web site will inspire Michiganians to explore our state?s fascinating past and to discover their personal history.?

For more information about Seeking Michigan, please contact the Library of Michigan at (517) 373-1300 or [email protected]. Kris Rzepczynski Michigan/Genealogy Coordinator Library of Michigan 517.373.9456 [email protected] ------next part ------Skipped content of type multipart/related From pcooper at irclibrary.org Tue Mar 17 11:25:08 2009 From: pcooper at irclibrary.org (Pam Cooper) Date: Tue Mar 17 11:26:32 2009 Subject: [Genealib] FarmilySearchLabs.org Message-ID:

Does anyone else have the same problems that I am having about printing images at www.FamilySearchLabs.org?

We downloaded both Adobe Flash and ShockWave and the print just sits there for about 10 minutes thinking and then when it finally does print, we only get headers and NO image. It appears that our computers are too old to take it. I felt that way all day yesterday!

Pam

Pamela J. Cooper, Supervisor

Archive Center & Genealogy Department

Indian River County Main Library

1600 21st Street, Vero Beach, FL 32960

772-770-5060 x4148 - Fax 772-770-5446

Email: [email protected]

Web Site: http://www.irclibrary.org/genealogy

Please note: As of July 1, 2006, under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing.

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Worked fine for us here, only took about 30 sec to stream to the printer, and the pic came out fine. From genealogy at morleylibrary.org Tue Mar 17 13:30:50 2009 From: genealogy at morleylibrary.org (Genealogy and Local History) Date: Tue Mar 17 13:34:15 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <[email protected]>

We intend to purchase those films relevant to Lake County, Ohio, and to those counties contiguous as funds allow. Sally Malone [email protected] Genealogy and Local History Room Morley Library 184 Phelps Street Painesville, Ohio 44077-3926 (440) 352-3383 www.morleylibrary.org

Queries and answers are placed in publicly accessible Family Files cabinets as a service to researchers.

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Claire Kluskens Sent: 03 Mar 2009 9:35 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: [Genealib] Re: Looking to the Future

Claire Kluskens NARA, Washington, DC "Just curious; this is not an official survey. My opinions, if any, may not reflect those of my employer." ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib From bookstoshare at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 14:43:46 2009 From: bookstoshare at gmail.com (G. R. Toms) Date: Tue Mar 17 14:43:50 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Offer of duplicate materials Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Good afternoon. As is the case with most libraries and genealogical societies which accept donations, we occasionally receive duplicates. We offer the duplicates to other repositories, in hopes of making an exchange for something we can use.

Our philosophy is that this accomplishes two objectives: 1) The original donor wanted to make the materials available for other researchers, and we are doing this, just at a different location than our own. 2) Their intent was to add to our collection, and if can receive something in echange we achieve that aim, even though it is with something different than what they gave.

We also include in our echange program items which are withdrawn from our collection. These may be older editions, or a copy in a different binding, or one for which a donated copy has been received in better condition. Many of the items we have as duplicates are periodicals, ranging from a single issue to a run of 15 or 20 years in some cases. Occasionally there will also be maps, and even micorfilm and digital media. I just never know from one day to the next what will land on my desk with a 'find me a home' note attached.

Do you occasionally have duplicates you would like to offer us in exchange? If so, I can start sending you a list from time to time. You can choose anything you want from the list, or take everything on it. It is up to you. All we ask is that we be given an opportunity to consider any duplicates you may have to offer. Back issues of your publication(s) are also welcome for consideration.

Just let me know if you would like to receive the emailed lists. If they need to go tot a specific individual, please indicate the email address I should use.

At this time, I have one list prepared and ready to send, and hope to complete and send another either today or tomorrow. Please let me know if you would like to receive these lists. I might add that if you do want to receive the lists, it would probably be wise to place my email address on your safe list, as when I send lists, they are sent to a list of email addresses. That causes some filters to divert them to a spam folder. This one was sent to you, only, so it would have made it through, regardless.

I look forward to working with you, should you be interested in this offer.

Sincerely,

Gary R. Toms Genealogy Reference Assistant Midwest Genealogy Center Mid-Continent Public Library 3440 S. Lee's Summit Rd. Independence, MO 64055 http://www.midwestgenealogycenter.org ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20090317/74cc79d0/ attachment.html From grrorela71 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 17 15:27:22 2009 From: grrorela71 at yahoo.com (Rebecca Rose) Date: Tue Mar 17 15:27:25 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Please forward this duplicate list to your acquisitions person In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

DUPLICATES for Sale from Riley County Genealogical Society, 2005 Claflin, Manhattan,KS 66502. Please contact R. Rose - [email protected] regarding purchase. January 2009

CD-ROM

Family Search personal ancestry file 5.0.? 1999-2001.???$2.00.

Heritage Quest on compact disc; 14 years, September 1985 to December 1999.???$1.00.

PERSI 2000 periodical source index.? $1.00.

BOOKS GENERAL

Third supplement to Torrey?s New England marriages prior to 1700.? Sanborn.? 2003.???$35.00

The Phillimore atlas and index of parish registers.? Smith.? 1984.? ? $60.00.

STATES GEORGIA

Military certificates of Georgia, 1776-1800, on file in the Surveyor General Department.? Hemperley.? 1983.???$10.00.

KANSAS

Rails rivalry and romance:? a review of Bourbon County, Kansas, and her railroad nostalgia in words and pictures, 1864 thru 1980, including the dramatic railroad construction race to the Indian territory border.? Banwart.? 1982.???$60.00.

Surname index, 1905 census, Emporia, Lyon County, Kansas.? Davies.? 1994.???$5.00.

MISSOURI

Genealogical notes from the Liberty Tribune, 1846-1858, published at Liberty, Clay County, Missouri.? V. I-II.? Hodges and Woodruff, comp.? 1967, 1975 reprint.??? $12.50.

NORTH CAROLINA

An abstract of North Carolina wills from about 1760 to about 1800, supplementing Grimes? abstract of North Carolina wills, 1663 to 1760.? Olds.? 1925.? Reissued 1983.???$90.00.? Out of print.

PENNSYLVANIA

Early Pennsylvania births, 1675-1875.? Fisher, comp.? 1947, 1975 reprint.???$45.00.

TENNESSEE

Index to the 1880 Census of West Tennessee.? Sistier.???$50.00.

Two centuries of Knox County, Tennessee:? a celebration in photographs.? 1992.??? $30.00.

VIRGINIA

Cavaliers and pioneers: abstracts of Virginia land patents and grants, 1623-1666.? v. 1.? Nugent.? 1974.? ? $50.00.

Frederick County, Virginia, marriages, 1771-1825.? Davis.? 1941.???$30.00.

Some Virginia marriages, 1700-1799.? McDonald.? 1972.? v. 1-15.? Mimeographed.??? $25.00.

DIRECTORIES

The phone book:? Buhler, Burrton, Haven, including Inman.? 1986, 1987-1988.???Free.

Student directory, Kansas State College, 1946-1947.???$1.00.

United States county courthouse address book.? Meitzler.? 1988.???$.50.

FAMILY HISTORIES

Supplemental genealogy of the Fell family of America descended from Joseph Fell who settled in Bucks County, PA, 1705.? Kershner.? 1984.???$25.00.

RESEARCH METHODS

Ancestry?s redbook American state, county and town sources.? Eichholz, ed.? Rev. ed.? 1992.? ? $20.00.

Don?t cry ?timber!?.? Michael.? 1970.???$.50.

Researcher?s guide to American genealogy.? Greenwood.???$7.00.

Searching for your ancestors.? Doane.???$1.00.

The source, a guidebook of American genealogy.? Eakle and Cerny.? 1984.? $15.00.

Survey of American church records.? V. 1.? Kirkham.? 1959.???$10.00.

Survey of American church records.? V. 1: before 1880.? Kirkham.? 1971.? $10.00.

Professional techniques and tactics in American genealogical research.? Kirkham.? 1973.???$2.00.

PERIODICALS? ($.50 unless otherwise noted) GENERAL

British connections; journal of the International Society for British Genealogy and Family History.? v. 1, no. 1, Apr/June 2000 - v. 9, no. 2, Apr/June 2008. ? The galley, a publication of the Clan Macneil Association of America.? v. VI, nos. 33 - 34, fall/winter 2006 - spring/summer 2007.

Laurel messenger.? v. 18, no. 2, May 1977 - v. 30, no. 3, Aug.1989; v.44, no. 1, Feb. 2003 - v. 46, no. 1, Feb. 2005.? Some issues missing.

Newsletter, International Society for British Genealogy and Family History. v. 17, no. 2, Apr/June 1995 - v. 22, no. 1, Jan/Mar. 2000.

STATES

ILLINOIS

Newsletter, Greene County [IL] Historical and Genealogical Society.? v. 17 no.4, winter 1996 - v. 25, no. 2, 2005.???Some issues missing.? ?

KANSAS

The Kansas historical quarterly.? v. X - XI, 1941-1942.???$15.00 each.

KENTUCKY

Estill County Historical & Genealogical Society.???v. 20, no. 9/10, Jan/Feb. 2001;? v. 21, no. 7-8, Nov/Dec. 2001 -? no. 9/10, Jan/Feb. 2002. ??? Kentucky Ancestors;? quarterly of Kentucky Historical Society.? v. 28, no. 3, winter 1993 - v. 30, no. 4, 1995.???Note:? v. 29, no 1, 1993/1994 missing.

MARYLAND

Maryland genealogies; a consolidation of articles from the Maryland Historical Magazine in two volumes.? Hollowak.? 1980.???$56.00.

MISSOURI

Northwest Missouri Genealogical Society Journal.? v. 14, no. 1, Apr. 1994 - v. 22, no. 2, Oct. 2002.? One undated issue.?

DeKalb County Heritage.???v. 32, no. 4, Jan. 2001 - v. 33, no. 4, Jan. 2003; v. 34, no. 2, July 2003 -no. 3, Jan. 2004; v. 35, no. 1, Apr. 2004 - no. 2, July 2004; v. 36, no.1, Apr. 2005.

Prairie Gleaner.???v. 32, no. 1, Jan. 2001 - v. 33, no. 3, July 2002.

NEW YORK

Tree talks.???v. 24, no. 1, Mar. 1984 - v. 31, no. 1, Mar. 1991; v. 33, no. 3, Sept. 1991; v. 34, no. 1, Mar. 1992-no. 4, Dec. 1992.? 1992 index.

OHIO

Ohio archeological and historical publications.? v. 1, June 1887 - Mar. 1888.??? $10.00.

PENNSYLVANIA

Newsletter, Bucks County Genealogical Society.? v. 6, no. 1, fall 1989 - v. 15, no. 3, spring 1996.???Note: v. 10, no. 1 is missing.???Volumes do not follow years.? Indexes are included. ??? . Families of Fayette County.? v. 7, no. 1, Jan. 2001 - v. 8, no. 4, Oct. 2002; v. 9, no. 2, Apr.2003 - v. 10, no. 3, July 2005; v. 11, no. 2, Apr. 2005. ???

VIRGINIA

Newsletter, Fairfax Genealogical Society.???v. 5, no. 1, Sept. 1989 - v. 11, no. 5, May 1996. ?????

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Our library is interested in exchanging. I don't know how much overlap in collection New York (Guilderland is a suburb of Albany and has some settlements from the 1600s) will have with Missouri. We are just starting to build up a genealogy collection. Barbara *************** Barbara Nichols Randall Director Guilderland Public Library 2228 Western Avenue Guilderland, NY 12084 518-456-2400 _____

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of G. R. Toms Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Offer of duplicate materials

Just let me know if you would like to receive the emailed lists. If they need to go tot a specific individual, please indicate the email address I should use.

I look forward to working with you, should you be interested in this offer.

Sincerely,

Gary R. Toms Genealogy Reference Assistant Midwest Genealogy Center Mid-Continent Public Library 3440 S. Lee's Summit Rd. Independence, MO 64055 http://www.midwestgenealogycenter.org ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20090317/7853aabc/ attachment.html From nancy.franklin at mtcalmisd.org Tue Mar 17 15:44:16 2009 From: nancy.franklin at mtcalmisd.org (Nancy Franklin) Date: Tue Mar 17 16:17:21 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Please forward this duplicate list to your acquisitions person In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

The Mt. Calm Public Library would be interested in purchasing "Some Virginia Marriages" for $25.00 and "Military Certificates of Georgia" for $10.00.

Please let me know if they are still available.

Thanks!

Nancy Franklin, Director Mt. Calm Public Library P.O. Box 84 Mt. Calm, TX 76673 (254) 993-2761

2009/3/17 Rebecca Rose

> > DUPLICATES for Sale from Riley County Genealogical Society, 2005 Claflin, > Manhattan,KS 66502. Please contact R. Rose - [email protected] purchase. > January 2009 > > CD-ROM > > Family Search personal ancestry file 5.0. 1999-2001. $2.00. > > Heritage Quest on compact disc; 14 years, September 1985 to December > 1999. $1.00. > > PERSI 2000 periodical source index. $1.00. > > > BOOKS > GENERAL > > Third supplement to Torrey?s New England marriages prior to 1700. > Sanborn. 2003. $35.00 > > The Phillimore atlas and index of parish registers. Smith. 1984. > $60.00. > > STATES > GEORGIA > > Military certificates of Georgia, 1776-1800, on file in the Surveyor > General Department. Hemperley. 1983. $10.00. > > KANSAS > > Rails rivalry and romance: a review of Bourbon County, Kansas, and her > railroad nostalgia in words and pictures, 1864 thru 1980, including the > dramatic railroad construction race to the Indian territory border. > Banwart. 1982. $60.00. > > Surname index, 1905 census, Emporia, Lyon County, Kansas. Davies. > 1994. $5.00. > > MISSOURI > > Genealogical notes from the Liberty Tribune, 1846-1858, published at > Liberty, Clay County, Missouri. V. I-II. Hodges and Woodruff, comp. 1967, > 1975 reprint. $12.50. > > NORTH CAROLINA > > An abstract of North Carolina wills from about 1760 to about 1800, > supplementing Grimes? abstract of North Carolina wills, 1663 to 1760. > Olds. 1925. Reissued 1983. $90.00. Out of print. > > PENNSYLVANIA > > Early Pennsylvania births, 1675-1875. Fisher, comp. 1947, 1975 > reprint. $45.00. > > TENNESSEE > > Index to the 1880 Census of West Tennessee. Sistier. $50.00. > > Two centuries of Knox County, Tennessee: a celebration in photographs. > 1992. $30.00. > > VIRGINIA > > Cavaliers and pioneers: abstracts of Virginia land patents and grants, > 1623-1666. v. 1. Nugent. 1974. $50.00. > > Frederick County, Virginia, marriages, 1771-1825. Davis. 1941. $30.00. > > Some Virginia marriages, 1700-1799. McDonald. 1972. v. 1-15. > Mimeographed. $25.00. > > DIRECTORIES > > The phone book: Buhler, Burrton, Haven, including Inman. 1986, > 1987-1988. Free. > > Student directory, Kansas State College, 1946-1947. $1.00. > > United States county courthouse address book. Meitzler. 1988. $.50. > > FAMILY HISTORIES > > Supplemental genealogy of the Fell family of America descended from Joseph > Fell who settled in Bucks County, PA, 1705. Kershner. 1984. $25.00. > > RESEARCH METHODS > > Ancestry?s redbook American state, county and town sources. Eichholz, ed. > Rev. ed. 1992. $20.00. > > Don?t cry ?timber!?. Michael. 1970. $.50. > > Researcher?s guide to American genealogy. Greenwood. $7.00. > > Searching for your ancestors. Doane. $1.00. > > The source, a guidebook of American genealogy. Eakle and Cerny. 1984. > $15.00. > > Survey of American church records. V. 1. Kirkham. 1959. $10.00. > > Survey of American church records. V. 1: before 1880. Kirkham. 1971. > $10.00. > > Professional techniques and tactics in American genealogical research. > Kirkham. 1973. $2.00. > > > PERIODICALS ($.50 unless otherwise noted) > > GENERAL > > British connections; journal of the International Society for British > Genealogy and > Family History. v. 1, no. 1, Apr/June 2000 - v. 9, no. 2, Apr/June 2008. > > The galley, a publication of the Clan Macneil Association of America. v. > VI, nos. 33 - 34, fall/winter 2006 - spring/summer 2007. > > Laurel messenger. v. 18, no. 2, May 1977 - v. 30, no. 3, Aug.1989; v.44, > no. 1, Feb. 2003 - v. 46, no. 1, Feb. 2005. Some issues missing. > > Newsletter, International Society for British Genealogy and Family History. > v. 17, no. 2, Apr/June 1995 - v. 22, no. 1, Jan/Mar. 2000. > > STATES > > ILLINOIS > > Newsletter, Greene County [IL] Historical and Genealogical Society. v. 17 > no.4, winter 1996 - v. 25, no. 2, 2005. Some issues missing. > > KANSAS > > The Kansas historical quarterly. v. X - XI, 1941-1942. $15.00 each. > > KENTUCKY > > Estill County Historical & Genealogical Society. v. 20, no. 9/10, > Jan/Feb. 2001; v. 21, no. 7-8, Nov/Dec. 2001 - no. 9/10, Jan/Feb. 2002. > > Kentucky Ancestors; quarterly of Kentucky Historical Society. v. 28, no. > 3, winter 1993 - v. 30, no. 4, 1995. Note: v. 29, no 1, 1993/1994 > missing. > > > MARYLAND > > Maryland genealogies; a consolidation of articles from the Maryland > Historical Magazine in two volumes. Hollowak. 1980. $56.00. > > MISSOURI > > Northwest Missouri Genealogical Society Journal. v. 14, no. 1, Apr. 1994 - > v. 22, no. 2, Oct. 2002. One undated issue. > > DeKalb County Heritage. v. 32, no. 4, Jan. 2001 - v. 33, no. 4, Jan. > 2003; v. 34, no. 2, July 2003 -no. 3, Jan. 2004; v. 35, no. 1, Apr. 2004 - > no. 2, July 2004; v. 36, no.1, Apr. 2005. > > Prairie Gleaner. v. 32, no. 1, Jan. 2001 - v. 33, no. 3, July 2002. > > NEW YORK > > Tree talks. v. 24, no. 1, Mar. 1984 - v. 31, no. 1, Mar. 1991; v. 33, no. > 3, Sept. 1991; v. 34, no. 1, Mar. 1992-no. 4, Dec. 1992. 1992 index. > > OHIO > > Ohio archeological and historical publications. v. 1, June 1887 - Mar. > 1888. $10.00. > > PENNSYLVANIA > > Newsletter, Bucks County Genealogical Society. v. 6, no. 1, fall 1989 - v. > 15, no. 3, spring 1996. Note: v. 10, no. 1 is missing. Volumes do not > follow years. Indexes are included. > . > Families of Fayette County. v. 7, no. 1, Jan. 2001 - v. 8, no. 4, Oct. > 2002; v. 9, no. 2, Apr.2003 - v. 10, no. 3, July 2005; v. 11, no. 2, Apr. > 2005. > > VIRGINIA > > Newsletter, Fairfax Genealogical Society. v. 5, no. 1, Sept. 1989 - v. > 11, no. 5, May 1996. > > > > > > > ______> genealib mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib > ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20090317/71f55470/ attachment.html From joyrichny at earthlink.net Tue Mar 17 19:35:57 2009 From: joyrichny at earthlink.net (Joy Rich) Date: Tue Mar 17 19:36:03 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Preserving the American Historical Record Legislation Message-ID: <39817C096E9A4BF0A55467E2F66A1F77@DELL>

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From: "Robert de Berardinis" < [email protected] > Subject: [APG] PAHR Legislation Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:42:56 -0500

Dearr All,

Texas State Archivist Chris La Plante, Secretary of the Society of State Archivists, asks that this be forwarded to as many genelogical list servs as possible and to contact your representatives. Thanks, Robert de Berardinis

Now's the time to step up for PAHR.

Congressman Maurice Hinchey (D, NY) and Congressman John McHugh (R, NY) have just sent a "dear colleague" letter to the members of the House of Representatives inviting them to sign on as original sponsors for the "Preserving the American Historical Records" bill.

What can I do?

Before March 20th, fax, email, or call your Representative and urge him/her to respond to the Hinchey-McHugh Dear Colleague Letter by signing on as an original sponsor for the PAHR bill. Ask them to contact Mike Iger in Congressman Hinchey's office (202-225-6335) or Jason Miller in Congressman McHugh's office (202-225-4611)

Tell them in a few sentences why PAHR will benefit their constituents-that means you, your organization, and your researchers.

Send them the attached explanation of PAHR, and explain why PAHR will benefit your state and your institution.

It is essential to have a strong set of co-sponsors for this bill for it to succeed. The level of support we get right now will tell Congress whether the bill is viable, or just one of those bills introduced to please a constituent but not taken seriously.

And if you can do a little more.Encourage others to contact your Representative as well. Genealogists, local government officials, researchers of all kinds, teachers, veterans, and even your favorite aunt can make the case.

If you need help or more information:

* visit http://www.archivists.org/pahr - you'll find the PAHR fact sheet, a copy of the bill, draft letters and resolutions and other materials to help you understand and encourage your Representative to support PAHR.

* contact us at [email protected] for any other help or information you need

Please take a few minutes in the coming week to make a call, pay a visit, or send a fax/email/letter to your Members of Congress. It's time to tell Congress that what we do matters a great deal to this country and its inhabitants. Americans need and deserve the resources to ensure access to our heritage. We can do this-with your help!

Council of State Archivists: Kathleen Roe, David Carmicheal, Karl Niederer, Vicki Walch

Society of American Archivists: Steven Hensen, Sue Hodson, Ben Primer, Nancy Beaumont

National Association of Government Archives and Records Administrators: Tracey Berezansky, Jelain Chubb

From SUBVETPAUL at aol.com Tue Mar 17 20:04:59 2009 From: SUBVETPAUL at aol.com ([email protected]) Date: Tue Mar 17 20:07:04 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Preserving the American Historical Record Legislation Message-ID:

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Kris Rzepczynski Michigan/Genealogy Coordinator Library of Michigan 517.373.9456 [email protected]

The Michigan Dept. of History, Arts and Libraries issued the following release this morning:

RECORD NUMBER OF MICHIGAN HISTORY ENTHUSIASTS OVERWHELMS 'SEEKING MICHIGAN' WEB SITE

The Department of History Arts and Libraries (HAL) yesterday launched the Seeking Michigan Web site, and by midnight - due to vast interest in these unique historical resources - the site saw an increase in traffic of 2,600 percent, overwhelming the capacity of its servers.

Michigan Historical Center Director Sandra Clark said that staff members are working today to transfer the materials to new servers, with plans to be up and running with a much greater capacity by the end of the week.

"The response to our announcement of the Seeking Michigan Web site was remarkable," said Clark. "We are sorry to disappoint those who are excited about the site, but confident that it will soon be able to respond to this incredible interest in Michigan's history."

The Seeking Michigan Web site (www.seekingmichigan.org) features a growing collection of unique historical information that - through digitized source documents, maps, films, images, oral histories and artifacts - creatively tells the stories of Michigan?s families, homes, businesses, communities and landscapes. The project is a collaboration that has long been in the making between the Archives of Michigan and the Library of Michigan. Site design and digitization of resources were funded through various grants. The Archives of Michigan is part of the Michigan Historical Center. The Michigan Historical Center and the Library of Michigan are agencies within the Department of History, Arts and Libraries (HAL).

Dedicated to enriching quality of life and strengthening the economy by providing access to information, preserving and promoting Michigan?s heritage and fostering cultural creativity, HAL also includes the Mackinac Island State Park Commission and the Michigan Council for Arts and Cultural Affairs. To learn more, visit www.michigan.gov/hal. ------next part ------Skipped content of type multipart/related From MargaretC at santarosa.fl.gov Wed Mar 18 17:53:03 2009 From: MargaretC at santarosa.fl.gov (Margaret Chatraw) Date: Wed Mar 18 17:56:04 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Deselection of genealogical resources Message-ID:

Do any of you have written guidelines for deselection of your genealogy collection? If so, would you mind sharing your document with me or give the highlights on the listserv? Thanks.

Margaret Chatraw, Library Coordinator - Genealogical Services

Santa Rosa County Library System, Administration Center

6568 Caroline St., Ste. 101, Milton, FL 32570

850-623-2043 www.santarosa.fl.gov/libraries

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Thank you for your offer. We would be interested in exchanging duplicates.

What is the email address that will be used when the lists are sent, and is the subject line the same all the time?

Thanks

Sally Malone

Genealogy specialist

[email protected] Genealogy and Local History Room Morley Library 184 Phelps Street Painesville, Ohio 44077-3926 (440) 352-3383 www.morleylibrary.org

Queries and answers are placed in publicly accessible Family Files cabinets as a service to researchers.

_____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of G. R. Toms Sent: 17 Mar 2009 2:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Offer of duplicate materials

Just let me know if you would like to receive the emailed lists. If they need to go tot a specific individual, please indicate the email address I should use.

I look forward to working with you, should you be interested in this offer.

Sincerely,

Gary R. Toms Genealogy Reference Assistant Midwest Genealogy Center Mid-Continent Public Library 3440 S. Lee's Summit Rd. Independence, MO 64055 http://www.midwestgenealogycenter.org

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Microfilm Products company has Archival lazer sheet labels that fit the boxes perfectly.

-----Original Message----- From: Kellenberger Room To: 'Librarians Serving Genealogists' Sent: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 2:16 pm Subject: RE: [Genealib] Microfilm box labels

Gaylord has a pin fed label for 35mm (#LA-3104, $43.39/thousand) and sheets for 35mm (#LA-ML3000F, $52.95/3000) and 16mm (#LA-247L, $18.79/1000). They are listed on pages 66 and 744 in their 2009 master catalog.

Victor

--- Victor T. Jones, Jr. Local History and Genealogy Librarian New Bern-Craven County Public Library 400 Johnson Street New Bern, NC 28560-4098

Phone: (252) 638-7808 Fax: (252) 638-7817 E-mail: [email protected] or [email protected] (for AOL, RR, COX, and some other providers) Web: http://newbern.cpclib.org

Opinions expressed in this communication are mine and do not necessarily represent the opinions of the library.

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cheryl Smith Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 1:22 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: [Genealib] Microfilm box labels I'm having a problem finding the right size labels for microfilm boxes. I would love them to be 1 1/2 X 3 1/2 but they just don't make them that size.

Does anyone have a suggestion for what they use and what company they purchase them from?

Thanks

Cheryl Smith Senior Public Services Librarian Genealogy, Local History, Texana, and Archives 2501 Coit Rd. Plano, TX 75075 972-769-4240 [email protected]

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Sally:

In response to your question, the email address which will be used is bookstoshare @gmail.com, as shown on the message.

The subject line varies, as it is descriptive of the type of contents offered, or the general nature of that particular list.

Gary ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20090319/6ab16e30/ attachment.html From rzepczynskik at michigan.gov Mon Mar 23 09:18:31 2009 From: rzepczynskik at michigan.gov (Kris Rzepczynski) Date: Mon Mar 23 09:19:09 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Seeking Michigan back up and running Message-ID: <[email protected]> Take II for the Seeking Michigan launch, including the Michigan death records (1897-1920). The recent server switches and searching snafus have been fixed; thank you for your patience.

The site address is: http://seekingmichigan.org. I encourage everyone to take a look, the site is a collaboration between the Library of Michigan and Archives of Michigan. When the second batch of records loading this week is finished, the project will be about 2/3 complete. Check the death records Look blog entry at the Seeking Michigan main page for the most current information about what years and counties have been loaded.

Thanks, and please feel free to email me with any comments or questions you have. We're thrilled to make these records available online, and anxious to finish the project.

Kris Rzepczynski Michigan/Genealogy Coordinator Library of Michigan 517.373.9456 [email protected] ------next part ------Skipped content of type multipart/related From Laura.Wickstead at roanokeva.gov Mon Mar 23 14:25:54 2009 From: Laura.Wickstead at roanokeva.gov ([email protected]) Date: Mon Mar 23 14:25:57 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Heritage Society Fair Message-ID:

Heritage Society Fair Saturday, March 28, 10:00am-2:00pm Main Library Auditorium Roanoke Public Libraries 706 S. Jefferson St. Roanoke, VA

Sons & Daughters of the American Revolution, Jamestowne Society, Virginia Mayflower Society, Sons & Daughters of Confederate Veterans & MORE! Meet members of these organizations. Learn what they do and what it takes to join. "Finding your Immigrant Ancestor" class at 11am & 1pm. FREE Registration is not necessary.

Laura S. Wickstead, Librarian Virginia Room Roanoke Public Libraries 706 S. Jefferson St. Roanoke, VA 24016 PH: 540-853-2073 [email protected]

From kferchau at saginawlibrary.org Mon Mar 23 14:30:27 2009 From: kferchau at saginawlibrary.org (Kelly Ferchau) Date: Mon Mar 23 14:29:19 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Seeking Michigan back up and running In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID:

Kris: Wow - how exciting! Our patrons are going to LOVE having access to the Michigan death records! Congratulations on putting together such a worthwhile resource for Michigan genealogy! Kelly Ferchau Local History & Genealogy Collection Public Libraries of Saginaw 505 Janes Ave. Saginaw, Michigan 48607 (989) 755-9827 [email protected]

From: [email protected] [mailto:genealib- [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kris Rzepczynski Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Seeking Michigan back up and running

Take II for the Seeking Michigan launch, including the Michigan death records (1897-1920). The recent server switches and searching snafus have been fixed; thank you for your patience.

Thanks, and please feel free to email me with any comments or questions you have. We're thrilled to make these records available online, and anxious to finish the project.

Kris Rzepczynski Michigan/Genealogy Coordinator Library of Michigan 517.373.9456 [email protected] ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20090323/46212992/ attachment.html From ASteele at oakville.ca Mon Mar 23 15:25:01 2009 From: ASteele at oakville.ca ([email protected]) Date: Mon Mar 23 15:25:04 2009 Subject: [Genealib] AUTO: Andra Steele is out of the office. (returning 03/24/2009) Message-ID:

I am out of the office until 03/24/2009.

If you require immediate assistance, please contact the Central Adult Information Desk at (905) 815-2044 or at [email protected].

I will respond to my e-mail messages upon my return.

Andra Note: This is an automated response to your message "[Genealib] Heritage Society Fair" sent on 03/23/2009 2:25:54 PM.

This is the only notification you will receive while this person is away.

From cjstuart at sympatico.ca Mon Mar 23 16:06:23 2009 From: cjstuart at sympatico.ca (Carole Stuart) Date: Mon Mar 23 16:06:29 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Heritage Quest training References: Message-ID:

I also would be interested in seeing this PowerPoint Presentation, as I library has just sampling HQ.

Carole Stuart [email protected]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa Holecamp" To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 5:51 PM Subject: [Genealib] Heritage Quest training

Hello all!

Thank you,

Melissa Holekamp

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From amsmith at lib.usf.edu Mon Mar 23 16:15:22 2009 From: amsmith at lib.usf.edu (Drew Smith) Date: Mon Mar 23 16:15:40 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Heritage Quest training In-Reply-To: References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> http://www.michigan.gov/documents/hal/lm_heritage_presentation0308_229823_7.pdf

Drew Smith

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Melissa Holecamp wrote: > > Hello all! > > I will be conducting a PowerPoint presentation on using HQ for several of our patrons in early April. ?I captured a file several months ago (a PowerPoint presentation done by Edwina Morgan) that (I believe) she said was available for modification and use by other librarians for training purposes. ?Unfortunately, I seem to have lost it. > > If Ms. Morgan ?(or someone in possession of the original posting) could forward that to me, I would greatly appreciate it! ?If it is acceptable to make modifications and use that presentation, I would like to do so - if not, I would love to look over it and get some ideas - it was well done and very informative! From lkoch at alleganlibrary.org Mon Mar 23 18:15:38 2009 From: lkoch at alleganlibrary.org (Linda Koch) Date: Mon Mar 23 18:15:26 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Heritage Quest training References: Message-ID: <1DFA9FBCC95C4ABAB6D871770183BB93@lindas>

I posted the information last time Someone also posted my comments on the MoSGA Messenger blog site at http://mosga.blogspot.com/2008/12/heritagequest-how-to.html?referer=sphere_search

The Edwina Morgan PowerPoint is at http://www.michigan.gov/documents/hal/lm_heritage_presentation0308_229823_7.pdf Linda Koch Reference & Adult Services Librarian The Allegan Public Library 331 Hubbard St. Allegan, MI 49010 269-673-4625 FAX 269-673-8661 open M-Th 10-9; F & Sa 9-5:30 www.alleganlibrary.org

----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Stuart" To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" Sent: Monday, March, 2009 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [Genealib] Heritage Quest training

>I also would be interested in seeing this PowerPoint Presentation, as I > library has just sampling HQ. > > Carole Stuart > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Melissa Holecamp" > To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 5:51 PM > Subject: [Genealib] Heritage Quest training > > > > Hello all! > > I will be conducting a PowerPoint presentation on using HQ for several of > our patrons in early April. I captured a file several months ago (a > PowerPoint presentation done by Edwina Morgan) that (I believe) she said > was > available for modification and use by other librarians for training > purposes. Unfortunately, I seem to have lost it. > > If Ms. Morgan (or someone in possession of the original posting) could > forward that to me, I would greatly appreciate it! If it is acceptable to > make modifications and use that presentation, I would like to do so - if > not, I would love to look over it and get some ideas - it was well done > and > very informative! > > Thank you, > > Melissa Holekamp > > ______> genealib mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib > > ______> genealib mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib

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From paulastuartwarren at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 13:44:01 2009 From: paulastuartwarren at gmail.com (Paula Stuart-Warren) Date: Tue Mar 24 13:44:05 2009 Subject: [Genealib] 2009 Librarians' Day at the Federation of Genealogical Societies Conference In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Are you a librarian working with family historians and genealogy reference areas? The 2009 Federation of Genealogical Societies Conference, hosted by the Arkansas Genealogical Society, invites you to a special day designed for librarians. The FGS Librarians? Day, graciously sponsored by ProQuest, will be held on 2 September 2009 (Wednesday).

The location is the impressive and recently opened Arkansas Studies Institute, Central Arkansas Library System, located at 401President Clinton Avenue, Little Rock, Arkansas. This is an all day event for librarians to network with each other as well as hear from gifted speakers. The day starts at 9:00 AM and runs to about 4:00 PM. The library has extended its hours and will close at 8:00 PM so there will be plenty of time to do research.

For more up to date information about the Butler Center for Arkansas Studies that is now located in the Arkansas Studies Institute Building, please check out their blog at http://butlercenter.blogspot.com.

*Librarians' Day Agenda:*

8:45 AM ? Welcome

9:00 AM ? 10:00 AM Building Bridges ? Connecting Libraries, Archives and Genealogist by Russell L. Baker, Archival Manager, Arkansas History Commission and State Archives.

10:15 AM ? 11:15 AM American Memory (The Library of Congress) by Karen Russ, MLS, Government Documents Librarian/Assistant Professor at Ottenheimer Library, Univ. of Arkansas at Little Rock

11:30 AM ? 12:45 PM Lunch sponsored by ProQuest ? presentation by William Forsyth, PMP, Director of Product Management and Ms. Lanell James, MSI, Manager, Genealogy

1:00 PM ? 2:00 PM Quick Overview of African American Resources by Lisa Parry Arnold, Content Manager for TGN

2:15 PM ? 3:15 PM Share in the Arkansas Experience ? The Arkansas Studies Institute by David Stricklin, Ph.D., Director of the Arkansas Studies Institute

3:15 PM Tour Arkansas Studies Institute

There is limited seating (90). Please register at [email protected]. Please include, name, address, email, and library affiliation. The cost is FREE and includes lunch courtesy of ProQuest! A RSVP is required to attend the day. FGS thanks ProQuest and the Arkansas Studies Institute for their important participation in this day.

FGS invites librarians to attend the rest of the conference, too. For program details and registration info visit www.fgsconference.org. That site also has details should your library want to be a part of the exciting Exhibit Hall. For conference updates, special announcements, additional lecture and speaker information visit www.fgsconferenceblog.org.

Bios for the Librarians? Day Speakers:

LISA PARRY ARNOLD is Content manager over African-American records for Ancestry, as well as Native American, Jewish, church and other challenging records. Lisa is a Brigham Young University graduate in Family History, a frequent presenter and an active member of the Association of Professional Genealogists, currently serving as Chapter Coordinator of the Utah Valley Chapter. She attends national and regional genealogical conferences regularly and teaches Family History classes in her local community.

RUSSELL P. BAKER, archivist, lecturer, historian, teacher, and author, is a native of Arkansas. He attended the University of Arkansas at Fayetteville, where he became a member of Phi Beta Kappa and received a B. A. in History in 1967. In 1985 he was granted a M. A. degree in Public History by the University of Arkansas at Little Rock. Since 1970 he has been employed by the Arkansas History Commission and State Archives in Little Rock and is now that institution?s Archival Manager. He is currently Arkansas?s senior archivist. Over the years, he has also taught history and archival courses at several public and private Central Arkansas colleges/universities. Mr. Baker the author of several award winning historical and genealogical publications. His Historical Directory of Arkansas Post Offices 1832 ? 1971 and Arkansas Township Atlas, recently revised and reprinted, are modern classics. During his professional career, he has contributed articles on southern history and religion to local, regional, and national publications. He is the author of a number of articles for the new on line Encyclopedia of Arkansas. He is a frequent lecturer on modern family history research theory at regional and national genealogical conferences and has taught in a number of the Society of American Archivists? continuing education programs. He is a former member of the Society of American Archivists and current member of the Academy of Certified Archivists. He has been a certified archivist since 1989. He is a life member of the Arkansas Genealogical Society and has served on its board of directors for more than three decades. He is a past president of that organization.

KAREN RUSS is currently the Government Documents Librarian in Ottenheimer Library at the University of Arkansas at Little Rock. Originally from Western New York, she has a Bachelor of Arts in History from the State University of New York at Fredonia and a Masters of Library Science from the State University of New York at Buffalo.

DAVID STRICKLIN is Head of the Butler Center for Arkansas Studies, the Arkansas history department of the Central Arkansas Library System (CALS), the library system?s Associate Director for Special Collections, and Adjunct Professor of History at the University of Arkansas at Little Rock (UALR). He received a B.A. and an M.A. in history from Baylor University and a Ph.D. in history from Tulane University. He came to the Butler Center after ten years at Lyon College in Batesville, where he was Associate Professor of History. At Lyon, he served as President of the Faculty Assembly, Chair of the Humanities Division, and Faculty Representative to the Board of Trustees. In 1999, he was named Arkansas Professor of the Year by the Carnegie Association for the Advancement of Teaching and Council for Advancement and Support of Education. He served two terms as the Chair of the Board of Directors of the Arkansas Humanities Council. He has worked on a number of radio and television documentaries over the years and has many articles and reviews in print, including a piece in the 2005 Oxford American annual Music Issue, as well as three books, including Southern Music/American Music, co-authored with Bill C. Malone. He oversees the work of the Arkansas Studies Institute, a joint project of CALS and UALR, which opened in the River Market in downtown Little Rock in the spring of 2009. ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20090324/ a008c2fb/attachment.html From mcshimkus at yahoo.com Wed Mar 25 15:26:25 2009 From: mcshimkus at yahoo.com (Melissa Shimkus) Date: Wed Mar 25 15:26:30 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Climbing Your DNA seminar Message-ID: <[email protected]>

The Genealogy Center of the Allen County Public Library in Fort Wayne, IN, and the Allen County Genealogical Society of Indiana will host a one and one half day seminar Climbing Your DNA: Genetic Genealogy on the use of DNA testing in genealogical research problem solving, featuring Roberta Estes, on Friday & Saturday, May 22 & 23, 2009, in the Main Library Theater. This program consists of six sessions, including DNA and Genealogy-Introduction, Getting in Touch with Your Feminine Side-mtDNA, Twists and Turns in the Rocky Road-Case Studies, My Results are Back-Now What?, Autosomal DNA Testing and You-What is It, What Does It Mean and How to Use It, and Making DNA Loveable - How to Take Your DNA Results and Turn Them Into an Heirloom Gift for Your Family.

Ms. Estes, one of the leading experts in the field, founded DNAeXplain (www.dnaexplain.com) in 2003, following a successful 25 year career as President of Information Access Strategies, Inc., a consulting firm that manages and implements leading edge technology projects in the government sector. She is a professional scientist and business owner (BS Computer Science, MBA, graduate work in Geographic Information Systems), and has been an obsessed genealogist since 1978. When the infant scientific field of DNA for genealogy emerged, and with traditional genealogical records already researched to no avail, Roberta was one of the early DNA surname administrators and pioneer adopters of DNA analysis for genealogy. She manages over 20 surname projects including the large regional Cumberland, the Lost Colony projects and the North Carolina Native Heritage project, performing a significant amount of both genealogical and DNA research and analysis pertaining to both surname projects and individual clients? test results. Ms. Estes will be the featured speaker at the fifth annual ISOGG (International Society for Genetic Genealogy) conference. She has previously lectured widely, authored a column for a technology magazine, written books in the technology arena and is in the process of writing a book about her experiences with DNA and Genealogy. The Genealogy Center and ACGSI are pleased to welcome her as the instructor for this timely course.

Early registration: $30 (postmarked by May 11, 2009). Registration:???????? $35 (postmarked after May 11, 2009).

To register or for more information, http://www.acpl.lib.in.us/genealogy/DNAWeb.pdf , or call 260-421-1225, or email [email protected].

Thanks,

Melissa Shimkus Genealogy Center Allen County Public Library 900 Library Plaza Fort Wayne, IN 46801 [email protected] 260-421-1225 fax: 260-421-1386 ======The views, opinions, and judgments expressed in this message are solely those of the author. The message contents have not been reviewed or approved by the Allen County Public Library.

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As Spring has arrived, I've started Spring Cleaning my office and found several books and journals that we cannot use or doesn't fit our collection. All were donations to the library and may have markings inside. Attached is the first list of trades or free for postage.

Please contact me off list.

Best wishes, Victor

--- Victor T. Jones, Jr. Local History and Genealogy Librarian New Bern-Craven County Public Library 400 Johnson Street New Bern, NC 28560-4098

Phone: (252) 638-7808 Fax: (252) 638-7817 E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://newbern.cpclib.org/research/

Opinions expressed in this communication are mine and do not necessarily represent the opinions of the library.

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All items have been spoken for except:

Itawamba Settlers, vols. 1, 6-16. (Itawamba County, Mississippi, Historical Society Quarterly)

Victor

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Victor T. Jones, Jr.

Local History and Genealogy Librarian

New Bern-Craven County Public Library

400 Johnson Street

New Bern, NC 28560-4098

Phone: (252) 638-7808 Fax: (252) 638-7817

E-mail: [email protected] or [email protected] (for AOL, RR, COX, and some other providers)

Web: http://newbern.cpclib.org

Opinions expressed in this communication are mine and do not necessarily represent the opinions of the library.

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In reference to a bulletin concerning the release of London records on Thursday March 27. Are these records only available on the individual subscriptions of Ancestry or are they also available on Ancestry Library Edition? From phinkel at pacbell.net Fri Mar 27 23:36:04 2009 From: phinkel at pacbell.net (Paula Hinkel) Date: Fri Mar 27 23:36:06 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Free Genealogy Librarians' Boot Camp in Burbank, California In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID:

The Southern California Genealogical Society announces a free three-hour educational session for librarians. Held in conjunction with the Society's 40th Annual Southern California Genealogy Jamboree, the "Genealogy Librarians' Boot Camp" will be conducted by Thomas Jay Kemp, the Director of Genealogy Products at NewsBank. A well-known librarian and genealogist for more than 44 years, Kemp is the author of more than thirty books. His numerous articles regularly appear in state and national library, archival and genealogical journals.

The session will provide practical tools for harried librarians trying to provide the best service to genealogists. Keep current on the best resources - online and in print - and services you should be providing in your library.

The session will be held Friday morning, June 26, 2009, from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 noon in the City Ballroom of the Burbank Airport Marriott Hotel and Convention Center, 2500 Hollywood Way, Burbank, California.

The session is free and participants do not need to register for paid Jamboree sessions in order to attend. However, we do ask that interested individuals register in advance for the Boot camp. Registration is limited to the first 100 individuals. Register online at www.scgsgenealogy.com or download a copy of the program brochure to register by mail.

To keep up to date with all of the news about Jamboree, register to receive posts from the Jamboree blog delivered straight to your email inbox. Read the blog at www.genealogyjamboree.blogspot.com.

Paula Hinkel Jamboree Co-Chair 40th Annual Genealogy Jamboree Southern California Genealogical Society 417 Irving Drive Burbank, CA 91504 www.scgsgenealogy.com www.genealogyjamboree.blogspot.com

From phinkel at pacbell.net Sun Mar 29 23:10:01 2009 From: phinkel at pacbell.net (Paula Hinkel) Date: Sun Mar 29 23:10:07 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Publication Announcement - Declarations of Intent Message-ID:

Southern California Genealogical Society Publications Announcement Immigration and Naturalization Series Declarations of Intent - Los Angeles

The Southern California Genealogical Society is proud to announce the publication of four new volumes in its Immigration and Naturalization Series. The following publications are now available for purchase in softbound and CD versions at http://tinyurl.com/c7544u

Declarations of Intentions as filed in the United States District Court for the Southern District of California, Central Division (Los Angeles):

Volume 1 October 4, 1906 through April 3, 1911 Intentions 1 to 800 Volume 2 April 4, 1911 through January 6, 1914 Intentions 801 to 1600 Volume 3 January 6, 1914 through July 28, 1915 Intentions 1600 to 2400 Volume 4 July 28, 1915 through February 3, 1916 Intentions 2401 to 3239

The records contain a wealth of information about the declarant. You will find more than just the name, age, and present address. Included are the birth date and location of birth, a physical description of the person, and the method of transport to the United States together with the port of entry. Some information may be missing due to the declarant's omission. (See example below)

As additional research help, indices provide the then-current addresses to help locate other relatives who may have filed their Declarations during the same period. Appendix two is an alphabetical index by location of the places that the declarants claimed as their birthplaces. Separate indices cover Volumes 1&2 and Volumes 3&4.

Individuals may obtain a digital or printed copy of the original record by contacting the Southern California Genealogical Society at [email protected].

Example

Lundstrom, Ture Edwin Intention No. 1243

Ture Edwin Lundstrom, aged 32 years, whose occupation is Carpenter, was born in Gislof, Simrishamn, Sweden on March 08, 1880. Mr. Lundstrom presently resides at 150 Colima Ave., Los Angeles, California. He departed from the port of Southampton, England on the vessel Titanic & transferred to Carpathia in mid-ocean, arriving at the port of New York in the State of New York about April 18, 1912. His last foreign address was Simrishamn, Sweden.

Mr. Lundstrom's physical description: Color: White; Complexion: Fair; Height: 5' 6"; Weight: 145 pounds; Hair Color: Light Brown; and Eye Color: Blue. Other distinctive marks: None. With his Declaration of Intention signed before Wm. M. Van Dyke, Clerk of the United States District Court, Southern District California by Chas. N. Williams, Deputy Clerk on February 25, 1913, Ture Edwin Lundstrom renounces his allegiance to Gustavus V, King of Sweden.

Paula Hinkel Southern California Genealogical Society 417 Irving Drive Burbank, CA 91504 818-843-7247 [email protected] www.scgsgenealogy.com

From phinkel at pacbell.net Sun Mar 29 23:41:16 2009 From: phinkel at pacbell.net (Paula Hinkel) Date: Sun Mar 29 23:41:21 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Publication Announcement: Los Angeles 1892 Great Register of Voters Message-ID: PUBLICATIONS ANNOUNCEMENT LOS ANGELES COUNTY, CALIFORNIA 1892 GREAT REGISTER OF VOTERS

The Southern California Genealogical Society announces the publication of a new index publication, the 1892 Great Register of Voters for Los Angeles County, California. The index contains more than 27,500 records. Of these, approximately 12,000 resided in the City of Los Angeles and the remaining 15,500 lived in outside of the City of Los Angeles. The index can be purchased in soft cover or CD format at http://tinyurl.com/c7544u.

The registers were the result of the California Registry Act of 1866 in which all voters were required to register. Why were only males listed? In 1892, only men were allowed to vote.

In addition to name, age, place of birth, occupation and place of residence, the registers provide naturalization information in sufficient detail to show the date of naturalization and the court conferring the naturalization-anywhere in the United States. (e.g. Miles Allen, Ireland, Aug 6, 1879, San Fran, CA, 4th Dist).

The 1892 Great Register also contains a wealth of personal information regarding each person, namely, height (in feet and inches), complexion shade, eye and hair color, and distinguishing marks (e.g. Thomas Charles Allen, Missouri, "mole on third knuckle of left hand").

Paula Hinkel Southern California Genealogical Society 417 Irving Drive Burbank, CA 91504 818-843-7247 [email protected] www.scgsgenealogy.com

From jhcook at alltel.net Mon Mar 30 10:53:36 2009 From: jhcook at alltel.net (Joyce Cook) Date: Mon Mar 30 10:55:24 2009 Subject: [Genealib] My new email address Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Hello, please change my email address to [email protected]

Thanks!

Joyce Cook

From rstoffer at marion.lib.in.us Mon Mar 30 11:41:13 2009 From: rstoffer at marion.lib.in.us (Rhonda Stoffer) Date: Mon Mar 30 11:41:48 2009 Subject: [Genealib] National Archives Film - Eastern Cherokee Applications Message-ID:

Has anyone used this series of microfilm from the National Archives? I have a patron who is interested in using the films, but there are 348 in the series, divided by application number, so he would have to rent several rolls through our Familysearch center. Does anyone know what information can be found on these films? Are there several pages of information on each applicant, or is most of the information available in the extract books? Thanks.

Rhonda Stoffer

Head of Indiana History and Genealogy Services

Marion Public Library

600 S Washington

Marion, IN 46953

765-668-2900 ext 153

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Thanks Cori,

We do have that series of books, I'll make sure he has looked at it. The applications he is interested in he found in 'Extract of the Rejected Applications of the Guion Miller Roll of the Eastern Cherokee' by Jo Ann Curls Page. Do you know if these applications are included in that series of films? Thanks!

Rhonda Stoffer

Head of Indiana History and Genealogy Services

Marion Public Library

600 S Washington

Marion, IN 46953

765-668-2900 ext 153

______From: Cori Dulmage [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:52 PM To: Rhonda Stoffer Subject: re: Genealib / Eastern Cherokee Applications

Hi Rhonda,

we have the series 'Cherokee by Blood' by Jerry Wright Jordan, in which he's transcribed Guion Miller's report to the Court of Claims (M685, 12 rolls). In volume one, Jordan gives a couple of examples of the full applications that appear on the 348 rolls of M1104 -- comparing these with the abstracted versions in the book, you can see that there is a LOT of information given in the applications that doesn't make it into the abstracted report. I'd say it would definitely be worth ordering the rolls with the original applications. If you'd like me to scan the examples and send them to you so your patron can see the extent of the difference, I'll be happy to.

Cheers,

Cori Dulmage

Carolina First South Carolina Room

Greenville County Library System [email protected]

(864) 242 5000 x2269

Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:41:13 -0400 From: "Rhonda Stoffer" Subject: [Genealib] National Archives Film - Eastern Cherokee Applications To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" Message-ID:

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Head of Indiana History and Genealogy Services

Marion Public Library

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National Archives Film - Eastern Cherokee Applications FHL US/CAN Film No. 378594 is the "General index to applications Vol. 1 A-K, Vol. 2 L-Z, and Application numbers 1-45." It seems that by ordering the index first, your patron could select the right film(s) to order next. The catalog notes indicate, "Taken from the Guion Miller enrollment records. However, these records consist of packets of information whereas the Miller records do not." I haven't seen these films personally. There is a 12 page pamphlet published by NARA in 1981 called "Eastern Cherokee applications of the U.S. Court of Claims : National Archives microfilm publications pamphlet describing M1104" that might give you more details.

Deborah Bruno San Diego, CA

In a message dated 3/30/2009 9:00:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:

Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:41:13 -0400 From: "Rhonda Stoffer" Subject: [Genealib] National Archives Film - Eastern Cherokee Applications To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])

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Maybe you could inter-loan the books.

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I am surprised I have not seen anyone mention Footnote.com. They are uploading digital images from this microfilm set. Only 2% complete so far, but they generally move fairly fast. Our library has an institutional subscription; check with your area libraries.

David Allan Hardin, MSLIS

Genealogy Librarian Supervisor Plano Public Library System

2501 Coit Road

Plano, Texas 75075

972.769.4443 [email protected]

Il est dangereux d'avoir raison dans des choses o? des hommes accr?dit?s ont tort.

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Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:41:13 -0400 From: "Rhonda Stoffer" Subject: [Genealib] National Archives Film - Eastern Cherokee Applications To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" [email protected]

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We own the microfilm and will be able to help her.

Nancy Calhoun

Muskogee Public Library

Local History & Genealogy

801 W. Okmulgee

Muskogee, OK 74401 [email protected] 918-682-6657 ex 257

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Hardin Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:01 AM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: RE: [Genealib] Re: National Archives Film - EasternCherokeeApplications

David Allan Hardin, MSLIS

Genealogy Librarian Supervisor

Plano Public Library System

2501 Coit Road

Plano, Texas 75075

972.769.4443 [email protected]

Il est dangereux d?avoir raison dans des choses o? des hommes accr?dit?s ont tort.

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Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:41:13 -0400 From: "Rhonda Stoffer" Subject: [Genealib] National Archives Film - Eastern Cherokee Applications To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" [email protected]

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If you use Footnote et al, do you find that it complements AncestryLE and HeritageQO? do you have all of these, or just certain ones? *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'`` Deena Hartray Butta Reference Librarian Genealogy Specialist Glenview Public Library 1930 Glenview Rd. Glenview IL 60025 (847) 729 7500 x152 http://www.glenviewpl.org/genearesources.htm http://www.gplgenealogy.blogspot.com/

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From: [email protected] [mailto:genealib- [email protected]] On Behalf Of David Hardin Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:01 AM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: RE: [Genealib] Re: National Archives Film - EasternCherokeeApplications

David Allan Hardin, MSLIS

Genealogy Librarian Supervisor

Plano Public Library System

2501 Coit Road

Plano, Texas 75075

972.769.4443 [email protected]

Il est dangereux d'avoir raison dans des choses o? des hommes accr?dit?s ont tort. ______

Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:41:13 -0400 From: "Rhonda Stoffer" Subject: [Genealib] National Archives Film - Eastern Cherokee Applications To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" [email protected]

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Thanks for all the help! Nancy has been helping and is sending the applications that my patron needed. I also got a phone call from Jeff Bowen, author of several series of books on the Cherokee and the rolls, talked with him for about 45 minutes getting lots of good information. I appreciate all the help, I knew all I had to do was post a message and I would have all the information I needed in a couple of hours! Great bunch of people!

Rhonda Stoffer

Head of Indiana History and Genealogy Services

Marion Public Library

600 S Washington

Marion, IN 46953

765-668-2900 ext 153

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From: [email protected] [mailto:genealib- [email protected]] On Behalf Of MPL Genealogy Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:27 AM To: 'Librarians Serving Genealogists' Subject: RE: [Genealib] Re: National Archives Film -EasternCherokeeApplications

We own the microfilm and will be able to help her.

Nancy Calhoun

Muskogee Public Library

Local History & Genealogy

801 W. Okmulgee

Muskogee, OK 74401 [email protected]

918-682-6657 ex 257

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:genealib- [email protected]] On Behalf Of David Hardin Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:01 AM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: RE: [Genealib] Re: National Archives Film - EasternCherokeeApplications

David Allan Hardin, MSLIS

Genealogy Librarian Supervisor

Plano Public Library System

2501 Coit Road

Plano, Texas 75075

972.769.4443 [email protected]

Il est dangereux d'avoir raison dans des choses o? des hommes accr?dit?s ont tort.

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Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:41:13 -0400 From: "Rhonda Stoffer" Subject: [Genealib] National Archives Film - Eastern Cherokee Applications To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" [email protected]

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Friends,

The Carnegie History Center subscribes to ALE, HQ and Footnote. In some ways ALE and HQ overlap, mostly in the census, but their indexing is often different and the quality of printed images can also be different. I don't see us getting rid of either.

We are considering (and investigating) subscribing to America's Genealogy Bank. We have used it before and think it might be good for our patrons. I haven't considered World VR, but will investigate them too.

Nan Ross

Carnegie History Center [email protected]

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Tracy E. Luscombe

Genealogy Librarian

McKinney Public Library System

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From: [email protected] [mailto:genealib- [email protected]] On Behalf Of Deena Butta Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:52 AM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: [Genealib] online subscriptions

speaking of Footnote...which also brings to mind Genealogybank and WorldVR...we are investigating obtaining these products for our library.

If you use Footnote et al, do you find that it complements AncestryLE and HeritageQO? do you have all of these, or just certain ones?

*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'`` Deena Hartray Butta Reference Librarian Genealogy Specialist Glenview Public Library 1930 Glenview Rd. Glenview IL 60025 (847) 729 7500 x152 http://www.glenviewpl.org/genearesources.htm http://www.gplgenealogy.blogspot.com/

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David Allan Hardin, MSLIS

Genealogy Librarian Supervisor

Plano Public Library System

2501 Coit Road

Plano, Texas 75075

972.769.4443 [email protected]

Il est dangereux d'avoir raison dans des choses o? des hommes accr?dit?s ont tort.

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Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:41:13 -0400 From: "Rhonda Stoffer" Subject: [Genealib] National Archives Film - Eastern Cherokee Applications To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" [email protected]

The material in this e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, privileged, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that the unauthorized review, use, disclosure, duplication, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return email and destroy all electronic and paper copies of the original message and any attachments immediately. Please note that neither City of McKinney nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Thank You. ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20090331/ d4098ce4/attachment.html From thomas.j.kemp at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 14:08:02 2009 From: thomas.j.kemp at gmail.com (Tom Kemp) Date: Tue Mar 31 14:08:06 2009 Subject: [Genealib] Genealogy Librarian's Dinner - Computers in Libraries Conference - Washington DC Message-ID: <[email protected]>

There is still room to attend the Genealogy Librarian's Dinner at the Computers in Libraries conference in Washington, DC (Crystal City - Hyatt Regency). When: Tues, March 31st - 6pm Where: Hyatt Regency - Crystal City - Cinnabar Restaurant

Come socialize with other genealogy librarians, genealogists and archivists.

All are welcome Separate checks.

RSVP to; Tom Kemp - [email protected] If you just show up we''ll "make room" for you.

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Tracey,

I know, all too well! However, I have been lucky in our IT department, esp. since we paid so much for the subscriptions.

Nan

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