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This Article is brought to you for free and open access by the Tampa Library at Scholar Commons. It has been accepted for inclusion in GENEALIB Archive by an authorized administrator of Scholar Commons. For more information, please contact [email protected]. From joyrichny at earthlink.net Thu Mar 1 03:02:49 2007 From: joyrichny at earthlink.net (Joy Rich) Date: Thu Mar 1 03:02:53 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Fee Increases (Including Some Extreme Increases) Proposed by NARA Message-ID: <00a401c75bd8$0124a1f0$6401a8c0@DELL>

NARA is increasing fixed-fee order fees, the minimum mail order fee, and fees for self-service and common NARA-made reproductions. Fixed fee reproductions consist of records from high-demand bodies of GENEALOGICAL records.

Details are at http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/2007/ E7-3160.htm .

Everyone in the genealogical is encouraged to submit comments by April 27, 2007, and to spread the word to others to do the same.

Proposed fees:

TYPE OF RECORD, ORDER FORM, FEE

(1) Passenger arrival lists NATF Form 81 $25.00 (2) Federal Census requests NATF Form 82 $25.00 (3) Eastern Cherokee applications to the Court of Claims NATF Form 83 $25.00 (4) Land entry records NATF Form 84 $40.00 (!) (5) Full pension file more than 75 years old (Civil War period) NATF Form 85 $125.00 (!) (6) Full pension file more than 75 years old (non-Civil War) NATF Form 85 $60.00 (!) (7) Pension documents packet (selected records). NATF Form 85 $25.00 (8) Bounty land warrant application files NATF Form 85 $25.00 (9) Military service files more than 75 years old NATF Form 86 $25.00

Present fees (from http://www.archives.gov/research/order/fees.html):

Passenger arrival lists NATF Form 81 $17.25 Federal Census requests NATF Form 82 $17.50 Eastern Cherokee applications to the Court of Claims NATF Form 83 $17.50 Land entry records NATF 84 $17.75 Bounty land warrant application files NATF Form 85 $17.25 Pension files more than 75 years old (complete file) NATF Form 85 $37.00 Pension documents packet NATF Form 85 $14.75 Military service files more than 75 years old\ NATF Form 86 $17.00

Joy Rich Brooklyn, NY

From lnaukam at mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us Thu Mar 1 15:20:24 2007 From: lnaukam at mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us (Larry Naukam) Date: Thu Mar 1 15:16:36 2007 Subject: [Genealib] design of web site In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

I am looking for good examples of library web sites which allow cross searching of various databases internally.

The PTB (powers that be) have asked me to investigate, and to start with I saw Halton Hills in Canada which has a multi database search. We would want something that could handle over a million names, and be adaptable for various entries, such as some reference to obits, some references to biographies, buildings, industries, and even scrapbooks which we have indexed.

The underlying indexes at this [point are in Excel. They can be massaged and moved to whatever program or site could handle this.

Any ideas? We know of evanced solutions and their genealogy products. Thanks!

From Heather.McLeland-Wieser at spl.org Thu Mar 1 15:18:41 2007 From: Heather.McLeland-Wieser at spl.org (Heather McLeland-Wieser) Date: Thu Mar 1 15:19:18 2007 Subject: [Genealib] design of web site In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Wow; I would love to here what your results are. I dream of mounting some of our internal databases on the web. But never have been able to convince the PTB.

Heather McLeland-Wieser Manager Art Recreation & Literature History Travel & Maps 206-386-4092

>>> "Larry Naukam" 3/1/2007 12:20 PM >>> I am looking for good examples of library web sites which allow cross searching of various databases internally.

The PTB (powers that be) have asked me to investigate, and to start with I saw Halton Hills in Canada which has a multi database search. We would want something that could handle over a million names, and be adaptable for various entries, such as some reference to obits, some references to biographies, buildings, industries, and even scrapbooks which we have indexed.

The underlying indexes at this [point are in Excel. They can be massaged and moved to whatever program or site could handle this.

Any ideas? We know of evanced solutions and their genealogy products. Thanks!

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I have the same thing in mind. Please share your findings.

Susan Scouras Librarian WV Archives and History Library The Cultural Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd. East Charleston, WV 25305-0300 (304) 558-0230, Ext. 742

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Heather McLeland-Wieser Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 3:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Genealib] design of web site

Wow; I would love to here what your results are. I dream of mounting some of our internal databases on the web. But never have been able to convince the PTB.

Heather McLeland-Wieser Manager Art Recreation & Literature History Travel & Maps 206-386-4092

>>> "Larry Naukam" 3/1/2007 12:20 PM >>> I am looking for good examples of library web sites which allow cross searching of various databases internally.

The PTB (powers that be) have asked me to investigate, and to start with I saw Halton Hills in Canada which has a multi database search. We would want something that could handle over a million names, and be adaptable for various entries, such as some reference to obits, some references to biographies, buildings, industries, and even scrapbooks which we have indexed.

The underlying indexes at this [point are in Excel. They can be massaged and moved to whatever program or site could handle this.

Any ideas? We know of evanced solutions and their genealogy products. Thanks!

______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib

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We've been using the Halinet program (Halton Hills consortiuim) for over a year and think it's WONDERFUL. It will indeed index scrapbooks, obits, newspapers and periodicals, display scanned images too. Our index using the Halinet software is at http://news.wilmette.lib.il.us/ if you want to test drive it a little.

Karen Miller Wilmette Public Library Wilmette Illinois --- Heather McLeland-Wieser wrote:

> Wow; I would love to here what your results are. I > dream of mounting some of our internal databases on > the web. But never have been able to convince the > PTB. > > > Heather McLeland-Wieser > Manager > Art Recreation & Literature > History Travel & Maps > 206-386-4092 > > > >>> "Larry Naukam" > 3/1/2007 12:20 PM > >>> > I am looking for good examples of library web sites > which allow cross > searching of various databases internally. > > The PTB (powers that be) have asked me to > investigate, and to start with I > saw Halton Hills in Canada which has a multi > database search. We would want > something that could handle over a million names, > and be adaptable for > various entries, such as some reference to obits, > some references to > biographies, buildings, industries, and even > scrapbooks which we have > indexed. > > The underlying indexes at this [point are in Excel. > They can be massaged and > moved to whatever program or site could handle this. > > Any ideas? We know of evanced solutions and their > genealogy products. > Thanks! > > > ______> genealib mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib > > ______> genealib mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib

______Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html From meganthelibrarian at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 16:38:35 2007 From: meganthelibrarian at gmail.com (Megan Lewis) Date: Fri Mar 2 16:38:46 2007 Subject: [Genealib] design of web site In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID:

The Registry of Holocaust Survivors has a database search called Namesearch at www.ushmm.org/namesearch. Its a homegrown product that includes 3 search fields, names from a variety of different sources, and includes photographs/document scans. The system allows for a truncated search of names, but there's no soundex (although they keep promising me one!) 'Bruml' is a good test search.

The interface pulls from Access databases, many of which were converted from Excel or other programs. I think SQL Server is involved as well, but I'm not sure. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. If I can't answer them, I'll forward them to someone who can. The interface has over 1 million names.

You might want to also check out www.Jewishgen.org's databases, which have soundex and multiple variable search capabilities. There's one collection (Survivors listed in 'Aufbau')in the Holocaust database that includes links to scanned images of the pages on a non-Jewishgen website. I don't know if any of the other dbs have additional media attached. Yad Vashem's Central Database of Shoah Victims Names has 4 different ways of searching for names, exact spelling, soundex, fuzzy search and synonyms. (www.yadvashem.org)

If you get a list, it would be great to see what else is out there,

Megan Lewis Registry of Holocaust Survivors, USHMM [email protected] On 3/1/07, Karen Miller wrote: > We've been using the Halinet program (Halton Hills > consortiuim) for over a year and think it's WONDERFUL. > It will indeed index scrapbooks, obits, newspapers > and periodicals, display scanned images too. > Our index using the Halinet software is at > http://news.wilmette.lib.il.us/ if you want to test > drive it a little. > > Karen Miller > Wilmette Public Library > Wilmette Illinois > --- Heather McLeland-Wieser > wrote: > > > Wow; I would love to here what your results are. I > > dream of mounting some of our internal databases on > > the web. But never have been able to convince the > > PTB. > > > > > > Heather McLeland-Wieser > > Manager > > Art Recreation & Literature > > History Travel & Maps > > 206-386-4092 > > > > > > >>> "Larry Naukam" > > 3/1/2007 12:20 PM > > >>> > > I am looking for good examples of library web sites > > which allow cross > > searching of various databases internally. > > > > The PTB (powers that be) have asked me to > > investigate, and to start with I > > saw Halton Hills in Canada which has a multi > > database search. We would want > > something that could handle over a million names, > > and be adaptable for > > various entries, such as some reference to obits, > > some references to > > biographies, buildings, industries, and even > > scrapbooks which we have > > indexed. > > > > The underlying indexes at this [point are in Excel. > > They can be massaged and > > moved to whatever program or site could handle this. > > > > Any ideas? We know of evanced solutions and their > > genealogy products. > > Thanks! > > > > > > ______> > genealib mailing list > > [email protected] > > > http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib > > > ______> > genealib mailing list > > [email protected] > > > http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib > > > > > ______> Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. > http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html > ______> genealib mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib > From ECole at oakville.ca Fri Mar 2 17:17:32 2007 From: ECole at oakville.ca ([email protected]) Date: Fri Mar 2 17:17:39 2007 Subject: [Genealib] I am out of the office Message-ID:

I will be out of the office starting 03/02/2007 and will not return until 03/05/2007.

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From Carol.Anderson at leesburgflorida.gov Fri Mar 2 21:42:10 2007 From: Carol.Anderson at leesburgflorida.gov (Carol Anderson) Date: Fri Mar 2 21:42:06 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Design of Website Message-ID: <8C9053D2-6EAC-4943-957D-6A4D35B4AB64@mimectl>

One library that has done this to an extent is the Memphis/Shelby County (Tennessee) Library system. They have death indexes and more online. Check out http://www.memphislibrary.org/history/guigen.htm I would also love to pursue this project.

Carol Anderson Adult Services Librarian

Leesburg Public Library 204 N. 5th Street Leesburg, Florida 34748

352-728-9790 [email protected] Please note: Florida has a very broad public records law. Most written communications to or from government officials regarding government business are public records available to the public and media upon request. Your e-mail communications may therefore be subject to public disclosure. ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070302/08eb9ea1/ attachment.html From lnaukam at mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us Sat Mar 3 09:12:28 2007 From: lnaukam at mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us (Larry Naukam) Date: Sat Mar 3 09:08:18 2007 Subject: [Genealib] design of web site In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Right away there were very useful and promising responses from off-list emails. I will be sure to describe what we got and what we decide to do and post it back onto the list.

Like all of us know, you have to get all the interested parties working on the same day to discuss things!

LN

From Dave.Schroeder at kentonlibrary.org Sat Mar 3 10:53:58 2007 From: Dave.Schroeder at kentonlibrary.org (Dave Schroeder) Date: Sat Mar 3 10:54:01 2007 Subject: [Genealib] design of web site Message-ID: <[email protected]>

At Kenton County Public Library we have several in-house databases online. One is geNKY (Genealogy Northern Kentucky). This includes indexes, abstracts and quite a few digital images (250,000 names). The other is Faces and Places (online digital images of our photograph collection). This database has 25,000 images so far. We compile the indexes in Excel and our Systems Department does their magic and puts them on the web page. You can find the site at www.kentonlibrary.org/genealogy/

Dave Schroeder

On Friday, March 02, 2007 4:38 PM, Megan Lewis wrote: > >Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:38:35 -0500 >From: Megan Lewis >To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" >Subject: Re: [Genealib] design of web site > >The Registry of Holocaust Survivors has a database search called >Namesearch at www.ushmm.org/namesearch. Its a homegrown product that >includes 3 search fields, names from a variety of different sources, >and includes photographs/document scans. >The system allows for a truncated search of names, but there's no >soundex (although they keep promising me one!) 'Bruml' is a good test >search. > >The interface pulls from Access databases, many of which were >converted from Excel or other programs. I think SQL Server is >involved as well, but I'm not sure. Feel free to contact me if you >have any questions. If I can't answer them, I'll forward them to >someone who can. The interface has over 1 million names. > >You might want to also check out www.Jewishgen.org's databases, which >have soundex and multiple variable search capabilities. There's one >collection (Survivors listed in 'Aufbau')in the Holocaust database >that includes links to scanned images of the pages on a non-non-jewishgen >website. I don't know if any of the other dbs have additional media >attached. Yad Vashem's's Central Database of Shoah Victims Names has 4 >different ways of searching for names, exact spelling, soundex, fuzzy >search and synonyms. (www.yadvashem.org) > >If you get a list, it would be great to see what else is out there, > >Megan Lewis >Registry of Holocaust Survivors, USHMM >[email protected] > > >On 3/1/07, Karen Miller wrote: >> We've been using the Halinet program (Halton Hills >> consortiuim) for over a year and think it's WONDERFUL. >> It will indeed index scrapbooks, obits, newspapers >> and periodicals, display scanned images too. >> Our index using the Halinet software is at >> http://news.wilmette.lib.il.us/ if you want to test >> drive it a little. >> >> Karen Miller >> Wilmette Public Library >> Wilmette Illinois >> --- Heather Mcleland-Wieser >> wrote: >> >> > Wow; I would love to here what your results are. I >> > dream of mounting some of our internal databases on >> > the web. But never have been able to convince the >> > PTB. >> > >> > >> > Heather Mcleland-Wieser >> > Manager >> > Art Recreation & Literature >> > History Travel & Maps >> > 206-386-4092 >> > >> > >> > >>> "Larry Naukam" >> > 3/1/2007 12:20 PM >> > >>> >> > I am looking for good examples of library web sites >> > which allow cross >> > searching of various databases internally. >> > >> > The PTB (powers that be) have asked me to >> > investigate, and to start with I >> > saw Halton Hills in Canada which has a multi >> > database search. We would want >> > something that could handle over a million names, >> > and be adaptable for >> > various entries, such as some reference to obits, >> > some references to >> > biographies, buildings, industries, and even >> > scrapbooks which we have >> > indexed. >> > >> > The underlying indexes at this [point are in Excel. >> > They can be massaged and >> > moved to whatever program or site could handle this. >> > >> > Any ideas? We know of evanced solutions and their >> > genealogy products. >> > Thanks! >> > >> > >> > ______>> > genealib mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > >> http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib >> > > ______>> > genealib mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > >> http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib >> >> >> >> >> ______>> Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. >> Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. >> http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html >> ______>> genealib mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib >> >______>genealib mailing list >[email protected] >http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib

Dave Schroeder Interim Director Kentucky History Librarian Kenton County Public Library 502 Scott Blvd. Covington, KY 41011 http://www.kentonlibrary.org/genealogy

From l.feil at sjcpl.org Sat Mar 3 12:11:01 2007 From: l.feil at sjcpl.org (Libby Feil) Date: Sat Mar 3 12:14:27 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Re: design of web site (Larry Naukam) Message-ID:

My department of the St. Joseph County Public Library recently began to move in this direction. Currently, we have several databases of various types (an obituary index, an index to service notes from the newspaper, digitized books, etc.). They each have their own page on our website (http://www.sjcpl.org/localhistory/ , then click on "Digital collections and databases"), which has led to inconsistencies in the ways the databases are presented and the ways they looked. We also realized that most users don't want to go in and out of various databases; they want to find information on a particular person or place, no matter which database is in.

We considered CONTENTdm, which is built for just this purpose. However, for the moment it is out of our price range. All of our data is currently in FileMaker Pro (which can easily import Excel spreadsheets, by the way, and also handles vast numbers of records). What we decided to do, at least for now, is create a new master database in FMP by merging all our databases into one. The new database will include a field identifying its originating database. Then we will put up a new unified search page that allows users to search by keyword or name through all of our databases, or that gives them the option of just searching a particular originating database.

Check back on our website in a few months to see the result!

3/1/2007 12:20 PM

"Larry Naukam"

I am looking for good examples of library web sites which allow cross searching of various databases internally.

The PTB (powers that be) have asked me to investigate, and to start with I saw Halton Hills in Canada which has a multi-database search. We would want something that could handle over a million names, and be adaptable for various entries, such as some reference to obits, some references to biographies, buildings, industries, and even scrapbooks which we have indexed.

The underlying indexes at this [point are in Excel. They can be massaged and moved to whatever program or site could handle this.

Any ideas? We know of evanced solutions and their genealogy products.

Thanks! --

Elizabeth "Libby" Feil, Librarian

Manager, Local & Family History Services St. Joseph County Public Library 304 So. Main Street South Bend, IN 46601

574-235-4181 [email protected] AIM: sjcpllibby http://www.libraryforlife.org/localhistory/ To subscribe to our monthly Local & Family History e-newsletter, email me at [email protected]

Learn, discover, and enjoy at the destination library for St. Joseph County research! From pamelajw at carolina.rr.com Sun Mar 4 12:50:22 2007 From: pamelajw at carolina.rr.com (pamelajw) Date: Sun Mar 4 12:50:31 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Please unsubscribe me from the list. Message-ID: <001301c75e85$96ae11c0$6701a8c0@PC798024514311>

Thanks! ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070304/92431801/ attachment.html From lnaukam at mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us Sun Mar 4 14:35:01 2007 From: lnaukam at mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us (Larry Naukam) Date: Sun Mar 4 14:31:01 2007 Subject: [Genealib] up for grabs! In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

The following go to the first ones to get back to me directly ([email protected])

Lutheran Zion-Pine Church Record 1786-1827 Stony Creek VA Vol 1 (Shenandoah Gen Source Bk 8)

Ditto, Vol 2 (Shen Gen Source Bk 9)

Old Pine Church Baptism 1783-1828 Mill Creek VA (Shen Gen Source Bk 10)

Reformed Zion Pine Church Record 1788-1827 (Shen Gen Source Bk 7)

Solomon Church Baptisms 1793-1850 (Shen Gen Source Bk 11)

Shenandoah County Gazetteer & Historical Geography (Irving D Magin 1991)

Germanic Genealogy No. 8 August 1976, no. 9 10 11 and 12 (1977) Augustan Society

Germanic Genealogical Helper Nos 4 and 5 (Augustan Society)

From lnaukam at mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us Sun Mar 4 14:51:36 2007 From: lnaukam at mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us (Larry Naukam) Date: Sun Mar 4 14:47:34 2007 Subject: [Genealib] all books claimed In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

All the books have been claimed already.

LN

From ltonche at verizon.net Mon Mar 5 13:51:44 2007 From: ltonche at verizon.net ([email protected]) Date: Mon Mar 5 13:53:59 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Help..MLIS Student Job Research Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Hello! I'm an MLIS student working on a Job Hunt Research paper and interested in eventually working as a genealogical librarian. I'm an "older" student that has done extensive work on my own family history. Can someone let me know what the job trends, prospects, desired skills, abilities or any other information you think relevant I have found a few job listings that specifically ask for a "Genealogy Librarian"...how common is that?

Thank you!!! Lila From eclemons at hcplibrary.org Mon Mar 5 13:55:52 2007 From: eclemons at hcplibrary.org (Elizabeth Clemons) Date: Mon Mar 5 13:58:11 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Help..MLIS Student Job Research References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <7062151B8C985C4AA81890AD151643766503BC@hcpl-ex.hancockpub.lib.in.us>

Our library doesn't have a Genealogy librarian, but I know that it's becoming an increasingly popular field. We have a couple volunteers that come in once a week, but could definitely use more help. They are sometimes called Local History librarians as well.

Good luck!

~Elizabeth

Elizabeth Clemons Reference Librarian ************************* Hancock County Public Library 900 W. McKenzie Road Greenfield, IN 46140 Phone: 317-462-5141, ext. 229 E-mail: [email protected]

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Help..MLIS Student Job Research

Hello! I'm an MLIS student working on a Job Hunt Research paper and interested in eventually working as a genealogical librarian. I'm an "older" student that has done extensive work on my own family history. Can someone let me know what the job trends, prospects, desired skills, abilities or any other information you think relevant I have found a few job listings that specifically ask for a "Genealogy Librarian"...how common is that?

Thank you!!! Lila

From KOReilly at oshawalibrary.on.ca Mon Mar 5 14:01:12 2007 From: KOReilly at oshawalibrary.on.ca (Kim O'Reilly) Date: Mon Mar 5 14:01:15 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Help..MLIS Student Job Research In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <421185DFADEAF14BBB5D0435269C42D90400CF37@SRVEXCHANGE.city.oshawa.on.local>

Hi,

Our system has a local history/genealogy specialist at our Main Branch. We have a lot of customers doing this kind of research and it's very important to have a resource person who is knowledgeable and familiar with resources, both internal and external. I absolutely think it helps to have someone who has done some family history research on their own.

Kim

>-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >[email protected] >Sent: March 5, 2007 1:52 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [Genealib] Help..MLIS Student Job Research > >Hello! I'm an MLIS student working on a Job Hunt Research >paper and interested in eventually working as a genealogical >librarian. I'm an "older" student that has done extensive >work on my own family history. Can someone let me know what >the job trends, prospects, desired skills, abilities or any >other information you think relevant I have found a few job >listings that specifically ask for a "Genealogy >Librarian"...how common is that? > >Thank you!!! >Lila >______>genealib mailing list >[email protected] >http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib > From nstallings at hcpl.org Mon Mar 5 14:02:02 2007 From: nstallings at hcpl.org (Niki Stallings) Date: Mon Mar 5 14:01:31 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Help..MLIS Student Job Research In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <20070305130186.SM02476@CATALOGING>

We have 2 Local History Librarians/Archivists. They do Genealogy, Local History & Archiving of our collection....with help from me. We do have job descriptions for them if you would like them just let me know.

Niki Stallings Head of Technical Services Henderson County Public Library 101 South Main Street Henderson, Kentucky 42420

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 12:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Help..MLIS Student Job Research

Hello! I'm an MLIS student working on a Job Hunt Research paper and interested in eventually working as a genealogical librarian. I'm an "older" student that has done extensive work on my own family history. Can someone let me know what the job trends, prospects, desired skills, abilities or any other information you think relevant I have found a few job listings that specifically ask for a "Genealogy Librarian"...how common is that?

Thank you!!! Lila ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib

From Dave.Schroeder at kentonlibrary.org Mon Mar 5 14:08:18 2007 From: Dave.Schroeder at kentonlibrary.org (Dave Schroeder) Date: Mon Mar 5 14:08:23 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Help..MLIS Student Job Research Message-ID: <[email protected]>

At Kenton County Public Library, we have a Kentucky History and Genealogy Librarian (MLIS) and three Local History assistants (one with an MA and one working on a MLIS).

Dave Schroeder

On Monday, March 05, 2007 1:51 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 12:51:44 -0600 (CST) >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [Genealib] Help..MLIS Student Job Research > >Hello! I'm an MLIS student working on a Job Hunt Research paper and interested in eventually working as a genealogical librarian. I'm an "older" student that has done extensive work on my own family history. Can someone let me know what the job trends, prospects, desired skills, abilities or any other information you think relevant I have found a few job listings that specifically ask for a "Genealogy Librarian"...how common is that? > >Thank you!!! >Lila >______>genealib mailing list >[email protected] >http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib

Dave Schroeder Interim Director Kentucky History Librarian Kenton County Public Library 502 Scott Blvd. Covington, KY 41011 http://www.kentonlibrary.org/genealogy

From rlindberg at state.pa.us Mon Mar 5 14:15:50 2007 From: rlindberg at state.pa.us (Lindberg, Richard) Date: Mon Mar 5 14:15:56 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Help..MLIS Student Job Research Message-ID:

I think it is hard to say what the job prospects and trends are. What will help you find employment is your experience working on your own family history especially if you can translate that into specific sources that you are familiar with and your ability to guide others through the search process. Take as much reference work as you can. If you can take a class in archives, that will be helpful, too. Learn how to do a good reference interview. Consider certification as a genealogist.

Richard L. Lindberg Genealogy/Local History Librarian State Library of Pennsylvania

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Dave Schroeder Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:08 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: re: [Genealib] Help..MLIS Student Job Research

At Kenton County Public Library, we have a Kentucky History and Genealogy Librarian (MLIS) and three Local History assistants (one with an MA and one working on a MLIS).

Dave Schroeder

On Monday, March 05, 2007 1:51 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 12:51:44 -0600 (CST) >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [Genealib] Help..MLIS Student Job Research > >Hello! I'm an MLIS student working on a Job Hunt Research paper and interested in eventually working as a genealogical librarian. I'm an "older" student that has done extensive work on my own family history. Can someone let me know what the job trends, prospects, desired skills, abilities or any other information you think relevant I have found a few job listings that specifically ask for a "Genealogy Librarian"...how common is that? > >Thank you!!! >Lila >______>genealib mailing list >[email protected] >http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib

Dave Schroeder Interim Director Kentucky History Librarian Kenton County Public Library 502 Scott Blvd. Covington, KY 41011 http://www.kentonlibrary.org/genealogy

______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib From director at perry.lib.ok.us Mon Mar 5 14:16:51 2007 From: director at perry.lib.ok.us ([email protected]) Date: Mon Mar 5 14:17:01 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Help..MLIS Student Job Research In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID:

Many listings might read Local History, Family History, or something such. Additionally, there are a number of librarians whose job titles don't mention any related words, but end up doing those kinds of functions. (i.e. "Head Of The Georgia Collection" might be the head person for local, family, and other histories related to Georgia, etc."

Thanks,

Jeffrey

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Jeffrey Courouleau, MLIS Head Librarian

Perry Carnegie Library 302 N. 7th Street Perry, OK, 73077

E-Mail: Ph: 580-336-4721 or 1-866-336-4721 Web: http://www.perrypl.okpls.org/

----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] Date: Monday, March 5, 2007 12:54 pm Subject: [Genealib] Help..MLIS Student Job Research To: [email protected]

> Hello! I'm an MLIS student working on a Job Hunt Research paper > and interested in eventually working as a genealogical librarian. > I'm an "older" student that has done extensive work on my own > family history. Can someone let me know what the job trends, > prospects, desired skills, abilities or any other information you > think relevant I have found a few job listings that specifically > ask for a "Genealogy Librarian"...how common is that? > > Thank you!!! > Lila > ______> genealib mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib > ------next part ------A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: [email protected] Type: text/x-vcard Size: 268 bytes Desc: Card for Url : http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070305/82bc3eb4/ directorperry.lib.ok.us.vcf From ltonche at verizon.net Mon Mar 5 14:34:58 2007 From: ltonche at verizon.net ([email protected]) Date: Mon Mar 5 14:36:09 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Help..MLIS Student Job Research Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Hi Niki,

I would love to have the job descriptions! They will definitely help with my research paper!

Kind regards, Lila From nstallings at hcpl.org Mon Mar 5 15:18:21 2007 From: nstallings at hcpl.org (Niki Stallings) Date: Mon Mar 5 15:18:07 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Help..MLIS Student Job Research In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <200703051417477.SM02440@CATALOGING>

Here it is.....

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:35 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: Re: RE: [Genealib] Help..MLIS Student Job Research

Hi Niki,

I would love to have the job descriptions! They will definitely help with my research paper!

Kind regards, Lila ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib

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Rebecca B. Hill Head Librarian Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential Center Spiegel Grove Fremont, OH 43420-2796

419-332-2081 ext. 31 419-332-4952 (fax) [email protected] < mailto:[email protected] > www.rbhayes.org < http://www.rbhayes.org >

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Sarah Thogode Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 3:26 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Sarah Thogode; Chris Mochocki Subject: [Genealib] Offerings of French Canadian Genealogies - Birth,Marriages, and Death records

Hello,

I have 6 boxes of French-Canadian birth, marriage, and death records that I would like to offer to the list. There will be no postage or shipping charges and it is on a first come, first served basis. I have attached two files with the contents of each of the boxes. All the boxes have to go to the same taker - they will not be split up. If you are interested in these, please contact me at [email protected] ,

Thank you,

Sarah P. Thogode

Reference Librarian

Clay County Public Library

Headquarters Branch

1895 Town Center Blvd.

Orange Park, Florida 32003 [email protected]

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Hi, Thanks to all that have responded. The French Canadian Genealogies have been taken. Thank you, Sarah Thogode Reference Librarian Clay County Library System Headquarters Library 1895 Town Center Blvd. Orange Park, FL 32003 904-278-3722 (Reference Department) ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070305/08b67701/ attachment.html From iriordan at ucla.edu Mon Mar 5 16:32:29 2007 From: iriordan at ucla.edu (Ida Riordan) Date: Mon Mar 5 16:33:25 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Offerings of French Canadian Genealogies - Birth, Marriages, and Death records In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <[email protected]>

I would be interested in who claims this material. I might be able to make a research trip to view it.

Ida B. Riordan 10943 Pickford Way Culver City, CA 90230 Phone: 310-837-9851 FAX: 310-837-6510 email: [email protected]

From sthogode at ccpl.lib.fl.us Mon Mar 5 16:36:29 2007 From: sthogode at ccpl.lib.fl.us (Sarah Thogode) Date: Mon Mar 5 16:39:03 2007 Subject: [Genealib] French Canadian genealogies Message-ID:

Hi,

I want to thank all of you that have responded in regards to the offer of the French Canadian genealogies. They have been spoken for.

Thanks,

Sarah Thogode Reference Librarian Clay County Library System Headquarters Library 1895 Town Center Blvd. Orange Park, FL 32003 904-278-3722 (Reference Department) ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070305/ b6e50a23/attachment.html From lnaukam at mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us Mon Mar 5 17:01:50 2007 From: lnaukam at mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us (Larry Naukam) Date: Mon Mar 5 16:59:26 2007 Subject: [Genealib] MLIS Student Job Research In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Before I reply seriously, which I will later, I should point out the SUNY Buffalo NY library school discussion list recently had a discussion on what was going on at the Cincinnati library, which is...

Roaming librarians. No subject specialties, just a librarian with a headset wandering the rooms there asking if people need help.

From Cwitcher at acpl.lib.in.us Mon Mar 5 17:19:04 2007 From: Cwitcher at acpl.lib.in.us (Curt Witcher) Date: Mon Mar 5 17:21:34 2007 Subject: [Genealib] MLIS Student Job Research In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Roaming, trained, subject specialists (sans headsets) in their appropriate subject departments, however, can be extremely effective...and enlightening for all parties involved...

Curt B. Witcher Manager, The Genealogy Center NE Director, Indiana Genealogical Society Allen County Public Library P. O. Box 2270, 900 Library Plaza Fort Wayne, IN 46801-2270 [email protected] 260-421-1226 Fax: 260-421-1386 ======The views, opinions, and judgments expressed in this message are solely those of the author. The message contents have not been reviewed or approved by the Allen County Public Library. ======

>>> [email protected] 3/5/2007 5:01 PM >>> Before I reply seriously, which I will later, I should point out the SUNY Buffalo NY library school discussion list recently had a discussion on what was going on at the Cincinnati library, which is...

Roaming librarians. No subject specialties, just a librarian with a headset wandering the rooms there asking if people need help.

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From Lynette.Jones at cityofcarrollton.com Mon Mar 5 18:33:23 2007 From: Lynette.Jones at cityofcarrollton.com (Lynette Jones) Date: Mon Mar 5 18:34:10 2007 Subject: [Genealib] MLIS Student Job Research In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID:

Larry,

This is a topic we've discussed in my library as a way of doing general reference. Is there a way for an outsider to tap into the discussion at SUNY Buffalo and read the various comments?

Thanks.

Lynette V. Jones Information Services Supervisor Carrollton Public Library at Josey Ranch Lake Carrollton, TX 75006 972-466-4814

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Larry Naukam Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] MLIS Student Job Research

Before I reply seriously, which I will later, I should point out the SUNY Buffalo NY library school discussion list recently had a discussion on what was going on at the Cincinnati library, which is... Roaming librarians. No subject specialties, just a librarian with a headset wandering the rooms there asking if people need help.

______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib From jshappee at lib.az.us Tue Mar 6 11:47:48 2007 From: jshappee at lib.az.us (Judy Shappee) Date: Tue Mar 6 11:48:13 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Help..MLIS Student Job Research In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

In what geographic area would you be looking for employment? That makes a difference. There is only one genealogy librarian in Arizona. Our universities have people in their archives and special collections whose duties sometimes include locating documents for people doing genealogy. The LDS libraries "rule" here in genealogy; all of their workers are volunteers.

Judy Shappee Arizona State Library

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Help..MLIS Student Job Research

Hello! I'm an MLIS student working on a Job Hunt Research paper and interested in eventually working as a genealogical librarian. I'm an "older" student that has done extensive work on my own family history. Can someone let me know what the job trends, prospects, desired skills, abilities or any other information you think relevant I have found a few job listings that specifically ask for a "Genealogy Librarian"...how common is that?

Thank you!!! Lila ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib From mccartj at halifaxpubliclibraries.ca Tue Mar 6 09:21:32 2007 From: mccartj at halifaxpubliclibraries.ca (Joanne McCarthy) Date: Tue Mar 6 13:29:41 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Inhouse Genealogy Consultations Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Hi everyone, we are considering expanding our genealogy programming at the Halifax Public Libraries, here in Nova Scotia.

An idea came up about offering a one-on-one genealogy consultation service for our patrons. We already do this for our business patrons, introducing them to materials and resources inhouse. We also make referrals to other agencies within the community who offer like-minded service. We typically book them for 45 minutes before the library opens so they get one on one service

Am thinking of doing the same for genealogy. We wouldn't be doing the research,but showing patrons how to use primary source indexes, local history, how to manuals, internet, as well as suggesting courses of action. Ie) "have you looked at census records yet"...

Does anyone offer this type of service and would be willing to offer advice or suggestions on how to pull this off? Does anyone charge for this or consider this a free service, etc, etc. all the best Joanne

Joanne McCarthy Reference Librarian Halifax Regional Library 5381 Spring Garden Road Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 1E9 902-490-5813 (phone) 902-490-5746 (fax) www.halifaxpubliclibraries.ca

From James.Overbeck at fultoncountyga.gov Tue Mar 6 13:52:00 2007 From: James.Overbeck at fultoncountyga.gov (Overbeck, James) Date: Tue Mar 6 13:52:48 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Genealogy books for sale or trade In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Elaine: I have just sent off two cartons to Laramie for you. There are over a dozen volumes included. I think you will find them very worthy of your collection. I wait for yours to arrive. Please keep us in mind for the genealogy of the southeast. And thanks for this exchange.

Jim Overbeck

James A. Overbeck, Assistant Manager

Special Collections Department

Atlanta-Fulton Public Library

One Margaret Mitchell Square NW

Atlanta, GA 30303-1089

Phone: (404)-730-1898

Fax: (404)-730-1895

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Hello!

I first started this service in the Fall 2005, after finding several beginner or stumped family historians/genealogists coming to reference for guidance with our Heritage Room Collection. The service I provided in my tours involves the following:

1. a quick reference interview customer finding out where they are researching, and what brick-walls they have run into; 2. make the one-hour appointment; 3. working various shifts, I tend to accommodate the patron, allowing them to come any part of the day; 4. we make a rule of not doing the research; but prepare a brief list, and pull the most important books for recommended reading for this region for the patron to peruse; 5. I will also pull specialty references: local histories, census and land indexes, archival finding aids, notes from past conferences if the material is relative to the patrons research parameters; 6. suggest a few titles that are for overcoming "brick-walls"; 7. they are given a tour of our facilities, showing where the circulating: 929's are, genealogical maps, genealogical and historical periodicals, newspapers on microfilm, census on microfilm, Peel Collection and Prairie Directories (microfiche), etc. 8. will give a brief training with regards to our website and licensed databases; 9. also make several outside referrals: city, municipal, provincial/state archives; specialized genealogical societies EEGS (Eastern European Genealogical Society), etc. 10. and pull from my own personal knowledge base, 25+ year specialty in genealogy; 11. our service is free, and called "One-on-One Genealogical Tours"

The service was so successful that I have expanded our programming into another successful 5-part genealogical series called "Surfing for the Elusive Ancestor"; and when first announced, this free program was filled in two weeks. This programming promotes and provides training on the genealogical and historical databases license by EPL or available via the Internet. We have a beautiful training room with 37 computers where I can promote and train in a tutorial style, having fun along with it.

The presentation is given in a two-hour session, three weeks apart, in a power- point format or live Internet searching, plus provides a book display on the topic for that night. The 5-part series includes:

1. EPL catalogue and genealogical database 2. Library and Archives Canada 3. HeritageQuest and PERSI 4. Ancestry Library Edition 5. Family History Library; and the Biographical and Genealogical Master Index (BGMI)

Hope this is helpful,

Lyn Meehan

Information Services Division

Edmonton Public Library

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

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From: [email protected] on behalf of Joanne McCarthy Sent: Tue 3/6/2007 7:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Inhouse Genealogy Consultations Hi everyone, we are considering expanding our genealogy programming at the Halifax Public Libraries, here in Nova Scotia.

An idea came up about offering a one-on-one genealogy consultation service for our patrons. We already do this for our business patrons, introducing them to materials and resources inhouse. We also make referrals to other agencies within the community who offer like-minded service. We typically book them for 45 minutes before the library opens so they get one on one service

Am thinking of doing the same for genealogy. We wouldn't be doing the research,but showing patrons how to use primary source indexes, local history, how to manuals, internet, as well as suggesting courses of action. Ie) "have you looked at census records yet"...

Does anyone offer this type of service and would be willing to offer advice or suggestions on how to pull this off? Does anyone charge for this or consider this a free service, etc, etc. all the best Joanne

Joanne McCarthy Reference Librarian Halifax Regional Library 5381 Spring Garden Road Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 1E9 902-490-5813 (phone) 902-490-5746 (fax) www.halifaxpubliclibraries.ca

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Ditto, Vol 2 (Shen Gen Source Bk 9)

Old Pine Church Baptism 1783-1828 Mill Creek VA (Shen Gen Source Bk 10)

Reformed Zion Pine Church Record 1788-1827 (Shen Gen Source Bk 7)

Solomon Church Baptisms 1793-1850 (Shen Gen Source Bk 11)

Shenandoah County Gazetteer & Historical Geography (Irving D Magin 1991)

Germanic Genealogy No. 8 August 1976, no. 9 10 11 and 12 (1977) Augustan Society

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Perhaps I worked in academia too long, but I would say that "publish or perish" still rings true. So transcribe some previously unpublished records and send them to the appropriate genealogy magazine. Write up your family, especially any ancestor who presented an intriguing problem, and tell the world.

You'll have an item for your resume and you may find new relatives.

Good luck, Anne Gometz Gastonia, N. C.

"Mine and mine alone."

From tkemp at mail.newsbank.com Tue Mar 6 19:48:27 2007 From: tkemp at mail.newsbank.com (Kemp, Tom) Date: Tue Mar 6 19:52:21 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Gretna Green - Ohio site that drew in KY couples to marry - 1857 - performed over 3, 000 weddings Message-ID: <0E6B372E915C2342B2E1CF7FBAAA2FF506A3C456@NEMO.nbcorp.newsbank.com> Articles about "Gretna Green" where high numbers of couples would go to get married.

This 1857 article is about Aberdeen, OH - a spot that attracted over 3,000 KY couples to get married by a justice of the peace - Esquire Sheldon. Aberdeen is "across the river from Maysville, KY".

The full article appeared in the New Hampshire Patriot & State Gazette of 16 Sep 1857.

Contact me if you'd like a copy of the original article.

In searching on GenealogyBank I found thousands of articles from the 1600s to recent times that commented on the Gretna Green pattern all over the US and the UK.

Tom

Thomas Jay Kemp

Director, Genealogy Products

NewsBank Inc. www.GenealogyBank.com

[email protected]

Cell: 860.218.5479

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Friends:

I am in the process of preparing to teach a group of about 32 Adult learners at the local Historical Society basic genealogical m,ethods of reserch and wonder if any of you out there would be williing to share you brochures about research in your library or archival facility. Many of these learners are older and have no on-line experience and in a few cases no on-line capability. I am looking for the real paper stuff or a direction as to where I may download the same from ayour several websites to use as examples.. Surviving the VERY cold winter in MAINE

Steve

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 7:48 PM Subject: [Genealib] Gretna Green - Ohio site that drew in KY couples to marry - 1857 - performed over 3, 000 weddings

Articles about ?Gretna Green? where high numbers of couples would go to get married.

This 1857 article is about Aberdeen, OH ? a spot that attracted over 3,000 KY couples to get married by a justice of the peace ? Esquire Sheldon. Aberdeen is ? across the river from Maysville, KY?.

The full article appeared in the New Hampshire Patriot & State Gazette of 16 Sep 1857. Contact me if you?d like a copy of the original article.

In searching on GenealogyBank I found thousands of articles from the 1600s to recent times that commented on the Gretna Green pattern all over the US and the UK.

Tom

Thomas Jay Kemp Director, Genealogy Products NewsBank Inc. www.GenealogyBank.com

[email protected] Cell: 860.218.5479

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To Curt Witcher: This is what I do and have done at my library for more than 20 years. And yes, it is effective. Two of us tend wander the division working with patrons, and the other two of us sit behind the desk. It comes down to a personality preference.

To Lynette Jones: The U.B. library school list is called LIS-LIST. I have been having problems with it because of our mail servers here - I can read it, but cannot reply to it. And without being subscribed to it, I don't think that you can search the archives efficiently. The latest info I had was from (http://informatics.buffalo.edu/alumni/listserv.asp); but I don't know if it is still current. I pasted this from a digest that I just got this morning - ([email protected])

To anyone: I was upset when I read the initial description of the article because it mentioned that many positions were being eliminated. Snippets that I saved show why - and listmom, this is germane to the provision of genealogical ref services! This was quoted from the list, describing what someone had found in a study - I have not edited or commented:

To: 'UB School of Informatics, Department of Library and Information Studies List'

They found customers were using the library more as a place - a lounge, a meeting space - than as a place to find answers to their questions, Banister said. They also found that visitors preferred to find information quickly and on their own - after all, what can't a person find on Google? Reference desk queries had dropped 40 percent during the past 15 years.

"It really varied from the way we thought customers were using the library," Banister said.

On a recent day, library visitors came for a variety of reasons, but few said they had cause to swing by a reference desk.

Jerry Banks, sitting in a chair with a book, said he stopped by the library to "get out of the cold." Banks said he visits the library daily, mainly to hang out and browse books.

Ramona Jones, on the other hand, was there for more traditional reasons - she was passing the time while her daughter, Noelle, did research for a high school paper. "We try to come here on a weekly basis," the Pleasant Ridge woman said, noting that the main library has more resources than some of its branches.

ML/21 streamlines staff - roughly 24 positions will be cut through attrition or reassignment - and puts the customer at the center of what the library does.

"The goal is to be more proactive," said Greg Edwards, library services manager for the Main Library. "We're going out there and asking them, 'Do you need help?' "

Michael Stephens of TAME THE WEB blog wrote: Many libraries have blogs, but the movement to turn on comments creates a whole different environment, that can scare some librarians or overwhelm others.

In the Teen area and gaming blogs, it is not unusual to see a thriving discussion with 200+ or 300+ comments. In sessions on Weblogs in libraries, Jenny and I have asked the audience: "How many of you can say you have a thriving teen presence inside your library Web site?"

How many libraries have actively engaged their users in this way?

Larry back live -

See: http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6413450.html

"Staff redeployments are part of the concept, and 24 positions will be eliminated"; "Those losing positions are expected to find other spots in the system; some could retire. Both professional and nonprofessional positions will be cut, including some reference librarians and supervisors" and "A genealogy and local history department also will be instituted, as well as a technology center with more expert staff".

My take on it is if the 11 subject department reference desks are eliminated and replaced with a centralized reference desk plus roving reference librarians, how is the subject expertise going to be delivered? I for one will be watching to see how this plays out. From sharoln at mail.sgcl.org Wed Mar 7 10:31:15 2007 From: sharoln at mail.sgcl.org (Sharol Neely) Date: Wed Mar 7 10:31:16 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Handouts/brochures for genealogical reserch Message-ID: <[email protected]>

We've placed our "Basic Genealogy" handout online with option of printing in PDF. See: http://thelibrary.org/lochist/basicgen.cfm#print

A fillable generation chart and family group sheet can also be accessed on on our page at: http://thelibrary.org/lochist/genforms.cfm

Sharol Higgins Neely Local History & Genealogy Springfield-Greene County Library 4653 S. Campbell Ave. Springfield MO 65810-1723 EMAIL: [email protected] PHONE: (417) 874-8112 ext 139 FAX: (417) 874-8113

FOR OTHER INFORMATION, PLEASE SEE OUR WEB SITE: http://thelibrary.org/lochist/index.cfm

------Original Message ------From: [email protected] Reply-To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 09:35:07 -0500

>Friends: > >I am in the process of preparing to teach a group of about 32 Adult learners at the local Historical Society basic genealogical m,ethods of reserch and wonder if any of you out there would be williing to share you brochures about research in your library or archival facility. Many of these learners are older and have no on- line experience and in a few cases no on-line capability. I am looking for the real paper stuff or a direction as to where I may download the same from ayour several websites to use as examples.. >Surviving the VERY cold winter in MAINE > >Steve > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Sent: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 7:48 PM >Subject: [Genealib] Gretna Green - Ohio site that drew in KY couples to marry - 1857 - performed over 3, 000 weddings > > >Articles about ???Gretna Green??? where high numbers of couples would go to get married. > >This 1857 article is about Aberdeen, OH ??? a spot that attracted over 3,000 KY couples to get married by a justice of the peace ??? Esquire Sheldon. Aberdeen is ???across the river from Maysville, KY???. > >The full article appeared in the New Hampshire Patriot & State Gazette of 16 Sep 1857. >Contact me if you???d like a copy of the original article. > >In searching on GenealogyBank I found thousands of articles from the 1600s to recent times that commented on the Gretna Green pattern all over the US and the UK. > >Tom > >Thomas Jay Kemp >Director, Genealogy Products >NewsBank Inc. >www.GenealogyBank.com > >[email protected] >Cell: 860.218.5479 > >______>genealib mailing list >[email protected] >http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib >______>AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. > > >

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From llindsay at lib.az.us Wed Mar 7 10:36:20 2007 From: llindsay at lib.az.us (Lorin Lindsay) Date: Wed Mar 7 10:36:17 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Handouts/brochures for genealogical reserch In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

At the Genealogy Collection at the Arizona State Library, Archives and Public Records we are placing our handouts online at http://www.lib.az.us/is/genealogy/handouts/index.cfm

Last week, a local genealogical society emailed to say they were going to use one of these handouts in their April newsletter.

Lorin Lindsay Genealogy Librarian

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:genealib- [email protected]] On Behalf Of Sharol Neely Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:31 AM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: Re: [Genealib] Handouts/brochures for genealogical reserch

We've placed our "Basic Genealogy" handout online with option of printing in PDF. See: http://thelibrary.org/lochist/basicgen.cfm#print

A fillable generation chart and family group sheet can also be accessed on on our page at: http://thelibrary.org/lochist/genforms.cfm

Sharol Higgins Neely Local History & Genealogy Springfield-Greene County Library 4653 S. Campbell Ave. Springfield MO 65810-1723 EMAIL: [email protected] PHONE: (417) 874-8112 ext 139 FAX: (417) 874-8113

FOR OTHER INFORMATION, PLEASE SEE OUR WEB SITE: http://thelibrary.org/lochist/index.cfm

------Original Message ------From: [email protected] Reply-To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 09:35:07 -0500

>Friends: > >I am in the process of preparing to teach a group of about 32 Adult learners at the local Historical Society basic genealogical m,ethods of reserch and wonder if any of you out there would be williing to share you brochures about research in your library or archival facility. Many of these learners are older and have no on- line experience and in a few cases no on-line capability. I am looking for the real paper stuff or a direction as to where I may download the same from ayour several websites to use as examples.. >Surviving the VERY cold winter in MAINE > >Steve > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Sent: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 7:48 PM >Subject: [Genealib] Gretna Green - Ohio site that drew in KY couples to marry - 1857 - performed over 3, 000 weddings > > >Articles about ???Gretna Green??? where high numbers of couples would go to get married. > >This 1857 article is about Aberdeen, OH ??? a spot that attracted over 3,000 KY couples to get married by a justice of the peace ??? Esquire Sheldon. Aberdeen is ???across the river from Maysville, KY???. > >The full article appeared in the New Hampshire Patriot & State Gazette of 16 Sep 1857. >Contact me if you???d like a copy of the original article. > >In searching on GenealogyBank I found thousands of articles from the 1600s to recent times that commented on the Gretna Green pattern all over the US and the UK. > >Tom > >Thomas Jay Kemp >Director, Genealogy Products >NewsBank Inc. >www.GenealogyBank.com > >[email protected] >Cell: 860.218.5479 > >______>genealib mailing list >[email protected] >http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib >______>AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. > > >

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______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib From jmcman at millinocket.lib.me.us Wed Mar 7 11:40:19 2007 From: jmcman at millinocket.lib.me.us (jmcman) Date: Wed Mar 7 11:40:46 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Query on specific research form Message-ID: <001901c760d7$523d6960$254ef4a9@ctg1104>

In my research I have found and used a number of preprinted forms from various groups. But I have yet to find a specific form that would describe a paper-based artifact. The artifact, a photocopy, (deed, birth/death certificate, etc.) would be placed behind the form, both being contained in a top-loading vinyl folder. I saw it as a unique way to manage my research findings.

I used on in the past but it proved to be too difficult to read (alternating gray and white lines). Naturally the form would also have the usual person/family information.

Is there such a form?

John L. McManus MAT, MLIS Director Millinocket Memorial Library 5 Maine Avenue Millinocket, ME 04462 PH: (207) 723-7020 FAX: (207) 723-7020 email: [email protected] Internet: http://www.millinocket.lib.me.us

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Steve -

I'd be glad to mail you our beginner packets if you'll send me an address.

Pam

Pam B. Young Roanoke Public Libraries Virginia Room 706 S Jefferson St. Roanoke, VA 24016 (540) 853-2073

From mrarchive at aol.com Wed Mar 7 12:37:13 2007 From: mrarchive at aol.com ([email protected]) Date: Wed Mar 7 12:37:36 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Handouts/brochures for genealogical reserch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <[email protected]> below is my address I will gladly send you postage for your trouble or any other associated cost

Steve Stephen Trent Cole Seames Bethel Hill Farm P.O. Box 734 Bethel, Maine 04217-0734

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [Genealib] Handouts/brochures for genealogical reserch

Steve -

I'd be glad to mail you our beginner packets if you'll send me an address.

Pam

Pam B. Young Roanoke Public Libraries Virginia Room 706 S Jefferson St. Roanoke, VA 24016 (540) 853-2073

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Hello,

At the Mid-Continent Genealogy & Local History Branch (Independence, MO) we have been doing individual "appointments with a genealogy expert" for about a year. The experts are staff members and patrons who have been screened for their knowledge and teaching/researching ability. The non-staff experts donate their time.

Two of them (German and Irish) have regularly scheduled days once a month. The others are scheduled as needed (French, Scandinavian, Italian, American Brick Walls, Computer Programs and Heirloom Preservation). I wasn't able to find a Canadian specialist in our area, but two women in Quebec have agreed to give one hour consultations for free to our patrons who contact them. I'm looking for a Mexican/Spanish expert now.

We set up an area with Internet access, forms and helping aides for the subject matter being discussed. We try to place them where they are undisturbed by the other activities in the library.

We don't charge for the 45-minute sessions. They are part of our on- going education mission. The participants, both experts and patrons, have wonderful comments about the program. Both individuals appreciate the uninterupted time they are able to devote to a research question.

If you have any questions about the program, you can reach me at [email protected] or 816-252-7228.

Angela McComas Program Director Research Assistant-- Diana Watkins, Genealogy Reference Librarian Mid-Continent Public Library [email protected] -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal.

From amy at amyjohnsoncrow.com Wed Mar 7 13:16:45 2007 From: amy at amyjohnsoncrow.com (Amy Johnson Crow) Date: Wed Mar 7 13:16:54 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Ohio Genealogical Society announcements Message-ID: <[email protected]>

An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070307/ d764a6cd/attachment.html From genlib at srlsys.org Wed Mar 7 14:21:28 2007 From: genlib at srlsys.org (Genealogy Department) Date: Wed Mar 7 14:20:19 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Handouts/brochures for genealogical reserch In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <000901c760ed$d1804ab0$7a00140a@ComputerC>

Do you by any chance have anymore beginner packets?

Lydia Lott

Satilla Regional Library

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Genealib] Handouts/brochures for genealogical reserch

below is my address I will gladly send you postage for your trouble or any other associated cost

Steve

Stephen Trent Cole Seames Bethel Hill Farm P.O. Box 734 Bethel, Maine 04217-0734

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [Genealib] Handouts/brochures for genealogical reserch

Steve -

I'd be glad to mail you our beginner packets if you'll send me an address.

Pam

Pam B. Young

Roanoke Public Libraries

Virginia Room

706 S Jefferson St.

Roanoke, VA 24016

(540) 853-2073

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Here is an interesting way that some libraries staff their collections. Interesting. Just FYI mvh

______

From: Larry Naukam [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wed 3/7/2007 10:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Roaming librarians

To Curt Witcher: This is what I do and have done at my library for more than 20 years. And yes, it is effective. Two of us tend wander the division working with patrons, and the other two of us sit behind the desk. It comes down to a personality preference.

To Lynette Jones: The U.B. library school list is called LIS-LIST. I have been having problems with it because of our mail servers here - I can read it, but cannot reply to it. And without being subscribed to it, I don't think that you can search the archives efficiently. The latest info I had was from (http://informatics.buffalo.edu/alumni/listserv.asp); but I don't know if it is still current. I pasted this from a digest that I just got this morning - ([email protected])

To anyone: I was upset when I read the initial description of the article because it mentioned that many positions were being eliminated. Snippets that I saved show why - and listmom, this is germane to the provision of genealogical ref services! This was quoted from the list, describing what someone had found in a study - I have not edited or commented:

To: 'UB School of Informatics, Department of Library and Information Studies List' They found customers were using the library more as a place - a lounge, a meeting space - than as a place to find answers to their questions, Banister said.

They also found that visitors preferred to find information quickly and on their own - after all, what can't a person find on Google? Reference desk queries had dropped 40 percent during the past 15 years.

"It really varied from the way we thought customers were using the library," Banister said.

On a recent day, library visitors came for a variety of reasons, but few said they had cause to swing by a reference desk.

Jerry Banks, sitting in a chair with a book, said he stopped by the library to "get out of the cold." Banks said he visits the library daily, mainly to hang out and browse books.

Ramona Jones, on the other hand, was there for more traditional reasons - she was passing the time while her daughter, Noelle, did research for a high school paper. "We try to come here on a weekly basis," the Pleasant Ridge woman said, noting that the main library has more resources than some of its branches.

ML/21 streamlines staff - roughly 24 positions will be cut through attrition or reassignment - and puts the customer at the center of what the library does.

"The goal is to be more proactive," said Greg Edwards, library services manager for the Main Library. "We're going out there and asking them, 'Do you need help?' "

Michael Stephens of TAME THE WEB blog wrote: Many libraries have blogs, but the movement to turn on comments creates a whole different environment, that can scare some librarians or overwhelm others.

In the Teen area and gaming blogs, it is not unusual to see a thriving discussion with 200+ or 300+ comments. In sessions on Weblogs in libraries, Jenny and I have asked the audience: "How many of you can say you have a thriving teen presence inside your library Web site?"

How many libraries have actively engaged their users in this way?

Larry back live -

See: http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6413450.html

"Staff redeployments are part of the concept, and 24 positions will be eliminated"; "Those losing positions are expected to find other spots in the system; some could retire. Both professional and nonprofessional positions will be cut, including some reference librarians and supervisors" and "A genealogy and local history department also will be instituted, as well as a technology center with more expert staff".

My take on it is if the 11 subject department reference desks are eliminated and replaced with a centralized reference desk plus roving reference librarians, how is the subject expertise going to be delivered? I for one will be watching to see how this plays out. ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib

Miranda Van Horn Reference Librarian

Cherry Hill Public Library 1100 Kings Hwy Cherry Hill, NJ 08034 Work: (856) 667-0300 Fax: (856) 903-1219 www.chplnj.org

Cherry Hill Township provides a secure environment for all information concerning our residents and all other business concerns. The information contained in this email is intended only for Librarians Serving Genealogists and may contain privileged and/or confidential information that is exempt from disclosure under applicable law. View our privacy policy here. ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070307/38d4f71e/ attachment.html From MVanHorn at chplnj.org Wed Mar 7 14:27:30 2007 From: MVanHorn at chplnj.org (Miranda Van Horn) Date: Wed Mar 7 14:27:39 2007 Subject: [Genealib] apologies Message-ID: <8DC4B0E14A18394CAB8C2F7256715F85163ABD@CHTEXCHANGE01.chtdomain.org>

Sorry for that silly post. Meant to send on to my supervisor. I think it's either time for a nap or time for a cup of coffee. mvh

Miranda Van Horn Reference Librarian

Cherry Hill Public Library 1100 Kings Hwy Cherry Hill, NJ 08034 Work: (856) 667-0300 Fax: (856) 903-1219 www.chplnj.org

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I vote for the nap!! Northeast Ohio...3 inches of snow this morning and a sinus headache...all add up for good reasons for a nap. hope your day gets better.

Gwendolyn Mayer (gwen) Archivist Hudson Library & Historical Society 96 Library Street Hudson Ohio 44236 330-653-6658 ext 1017 330-650-4693 fax

----- Original Message ----- From: Miranda Van Horn Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2007 2:28 pm Subject: [Genealib] apologies To: [email protected]

> Sorry for that silly post. Meant to send on to my supervisor. I > think it's either time for a nap or time for a cup of coffee. > mvh > > > Miranda Van Horn > Reference Librarian > > Cherry Hill Public Library > 1100 Kings Hwy > Cherry Hill, NJ 08034 > Work: (856) 667-0300 > Fax: (856) 903-1219 > www.chplnj.org > > > Cherry Hill Township provides a secure environment for all > information concerning our residents and all other business > concerns. The information contained in this email is intended only > for [email protected] and may contain privileged > and/or confidential information that is exempt from disclosure > under applicable law. View our privacy policy here. > ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070307/9622874e/ attachment.html From bbumbalo at swbell.net Wed Mar 7 15:38:18 2007 From: bbumbalo at swbell.net (Bruce Bumbalough) Date: Wed Mar 7 15:38:21 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Some Texoma Vital Records Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Hello all!

Some shameless merchandising here.

I have compiled and published "Some Texoma Vital Records". It is a 368 page perfect bound 81/2 x 11" book which lists births, marriages and deaths from Texas, Oklahoma Territory and Indian Territory from November, 1903 to November, 1904. There are a few from neighboring states as well. There is a complete every name, every place index.

The information was taken from the old Fort Worth Record, a newspaper that eventually mnerged with the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. The Record provided news coverage for Fort Worth and Tarrant County, Dallas and Dallas County and much of the rest of Texas. It also provided news for Oklahoma and Indian Territories before they became Oklahoma in 1907.

The book is available exclusively from Shurbrooke Books at www.lulu.com/Shurbrookebooks It can be downloaded as a PDF file for $24.06 or purchased as a perfect bound edition for $35.95.

A companion volume of genealogy tidbits, such as elections, businesses, divorces, graduations, court cases, house fires, etc from the same places and time is being compiled and will be available later this year.

I appreciate your consideration of the book.

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Niki,

We get a pretty fair number of research requests and have found it simplist just to emplace a per-hour fee of $10, with a minimum of $5.

This seems to be a reasonable fee to us, even a bit low considering how labor intensive a lot of these requests are, and it's high enough to keep the truly massive requests from flowing in. You know the ones, the folks who want you to do all their research for them or are engaged in fishing expeditions.

It works pretty well for us, and not very many people at all complain about it.

Tim

Tim Herrmann Kentucky History Specialist Kenton County Public Library 502 Scott Street Covington KY 41011 859-962-4060 ext. 4232 (office) 859-962-4070 (Kentucky Reference Desk)

"Be not ashamed of mistakes and thus make them crimes." - Confucius

From MVanHorn at chplnj.org Thu Mar 8 09:42:56 2007 From: MVanHorn at chplnj.org (Miranda Van Horn) Date: Thu Mar 8 09:43:07 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Research fees/Obituary Requests/Photograph copies References: <200703071439758.SM00972@CATALOGING> Message-ID: <8DC4B0E14A18394CAB8C2F7256715F85163ABF@CHTEXCHANGE01.chtdomain.org>

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The Genealogical Society of New Jersey and the Genealogical Society of Bergen County cordially invite you to join us for an all day Spring Genealogy Seminar. This special all-day event will offer a variety of genealogical information for both aspiring family historians and seasoned researchers.

Enjoy a program presented by three noted and engaging professionals. Book vendors will be on hand and local societies will be participating in an display area.

When: 21 April 2007, 9:00am to 3:00 pm Where: Bergen Community College, Paramus NJ

Speakers: Patricia Law Hatcher, FASG, Michelle Chubenko, and Larry Fermi

Topics: presented by: Patricia Law Hatcher, FASG Why Use Land Records? Because... Producing A Quality Family History Documentation: More Than Just A Source Look Again! What Did You Miss?

presented by: Michelle L. Chubenko Researching Your Ancestor's Locality Special Censuses: Researching Beyond Decennial Enumerations

presented by: Larry S. Fermi Crossing the Pond: Finding Immigrant Origins This Land Is Your Land, This Land Is My Land!Using Property Records

Registration required and includes a printed or CD-Rom syllabus. Box lunches can be ordered.

For more information and registration forms please visit either of our websites: and

Posted by: -- Michelle Tucker Chubenko GSNJ Trustee

From lcarter at arlsmail.org Thu Mar 8 11:42:24 2007 From: lcarter at arlsmail.org (Laura Carter) Date: Thu Mar 8 11:42:35 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Books for sale or trade Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Attached is an Excel list of duplicates that we have for sale or trade.

Please respond off list to: Robert Maupin [email protected] Athens-Clarke County Library Heritage Room 2025 Baxter Street Athens, GA 30606 706 613-3650 Ext. 332

If you want to purchase books and Robert indicates they are available, checks will be made payable to Athens-Clarke County Library and mailed to Robert Maupin at the address listed.

Thanks, Laura

-- Laura W. Carter Heritage Room Librarian Athens-Clarke County Library 2025 Baxter Street Athens, Georgia 30606

Voice - 706 613-3650 Ext. 350 FAX - 706 613-3660 [email protected]

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We do not charge for obituary requests or copies, when patrons email or write in requests, we write back that we accept donations, but do not charge for these services. We are a county public library system (with 5 libraries) in Arkansas.

From: Niki Stallings [mailto:[email protected]]Sent: Wed 3/7/2007 3:40 PMTo: 'Librarians Serving Genealogists'Subject: [Genealib] Research fees/Obituary Requests/Photograph copies

We are revamping out policy on Research Fees. Can some of you please share with me your policies procedures on your research fees, multiple obituary requests, and requests for copies (emailed) of photographs? Thanks in advance!

Niki Stallings Head of Technical Services Henderson County Public Library 101 South Main Street Henderson, Kentucky 42420

Miranda Van Horn Reference Librarian

Cherry Hill Public Library1100 Kings Hwy Cherry Hill, NJ 08034 Work: (856) 667- 0300 Fax: (856) 903-1219 www.chplnj.org

Cherry Hill Township provides a secure environment for all information concerning our residents and all other business concerns. The information contained in this email is intended only for Librarians Serving Genealogists and may contain privileged and/or confidential information that is exempt from disclosure under applicable law. View our privacy policy here. ______Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070308/3c31f98d/ attachment.html From thatchermp at gensocietyofutah.org Thu Mar 8 14:58:49 2007 From: thatchermp at gensocietyofutah.org (Melvin P. Thatcher) Date: Thu Mar 8 14:58:52 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Genealogy and Local History Section (IFLA) Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Dear Colleagues, The Genealogy and Local History Section of IFLA is in the midst of a membership recruitment drive. If you would like to see genealogy and local history librarianship continue its presence in the formal organization of IFLA, please consider joining IFLA as a personal or student affiliate and become a member of our section.

Here is an excerpt from www.ifla.org about personal and student affiliate membership:

"Personal Affiliates and Student Affiliates are individuals who wish to mark their interest in and support for the purposes and professional activities of IFLA.

"Personal and Student Affiliates are entitled to register free of charge for one Section. For those in Africa, Asia & Oceania, and Latin America & the Caribbean, participation in the appropriate Section for Regional Activities will automatically be included in the membership benefits.

"The annual membership fee for Personal Affiliates is EUR 122. For Student Affiliates the fee is EUR 51. Affiliates have no voting rights."

We hope that you will seriously consider joining the Genealogy and Local History Section as a show of support for its aims and activities in behalf genealogy and local history librarianship around the world.

Please visit our website for copies of our leaflet, semi-annual newsletter and more information about the section: http://www.ifla.org/VII/s37/index.htm.

Sincerely, Standing Committee Genealogy and Local History Section

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Steve: The URL that follows leads to a page on our site about doing Genealogy at the Cleveland Public Library and in Cuyahoga County. On the page is a link to our guide (PDF) you can print out as many copies as you wish. http://www.cpl.org/genealogy-resources.asp

Ron Burdick

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Ronald L. Burdick Department Head History & Geography Department Cleveland Public Library 325 Superior Avenue, Cleveland, OH 44114-1271 216-623-2865 (Voice) 216-902-4978 (Fax) [email protected] (E-mail) www.cpl.org (Library Web Site) ______

----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2007 9:38 am Subject: Re: [Genealib] Handouts/brochures for genealogical reserch To: [email protected]

> Friends: > > I am in the process of preparing to teach a group of about 32 > Adult learners at the local Historical Society basic genealogical > m,ethods of reserch and wonder if any of you out there would be > williing to share you brochures about research in your library or > archival facility. Many of these learners are older and have no on- > line experience and in a few cases no on-line capability. I am > looking for the real paper stuff or a direction as to where I may > download the same from ayour several websites to use as examples.. > Surviving the VERY cold winter in MAINE > > Steve > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 7:48 PM > Subject: [Genealib] Gretna Green - Ohio site that drew in KY > couples to marry - 1857 - performed over 3, 000 weddings > > > Articles about ?Gretna Green? where high numbers of couples would > go to get married. > > This 1857 article is about Aberdeen, OH ? a spot that attracted > over 3,000 KY couples to get married by a justice of the peace ? > Esquire Sheldon. Aberdeen is ?across the river from Maysville, > KY?. > > The full article appeared in the New Hampshire Patriot & State > Gazette of 16 Sep 1857. > Contact me if you?d like a copy of the original article. > > In searching on GenealogyBank I found thousands of articles from > the 1600s to recent times that commented on the Gretna Green > pattern all over the US and the UK. > > Tom > > Thomas Jay Kemp > Director, Genealogy Products > NewsBank Inc. > www.GenealogyBank.com > > [email protected] > Cell: 860.218.5479 > > ______> genealib mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib > ______> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's > free from AOL at AOL.com. > From mccartj at halifaxpubliclibraries.ca Thu Mar 8 12:38:46 2007 From: mccartj at halifaxpubliclibraries.ca (Joanne McCarthy) Date: Thu Mar 8 16:47:01 2007 Subject: [Genealib] New resource list about the Titanic Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Hi Everyone, just wanted to let you know we are launching a new resource list called "The Sinking of the Titanic" at http://www.halifaxpubliclibraries.ca/pdfs/resource_lists/titanic_07.pdf highlighting Halifax Public Libraries holding about this tragic event.

This is a free resource list to download or print out.

We are also featuring it for March and April at http://www.halifaxpubliclibraries.ca/roots/feat_res.html all the best Joanne

Joanne McCarthy Reference Librarian Halifax Regional Library 5381 Spring Garden Road Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 1E9 902-490-5813 (phone) 902-490-5746 (fax) www.halifaxpubliclibraries.ca From Suzanne.Levy at fairfaxcounty.gov Thu Mar 8 17:10:24 2007 From: Suzanne.Levy at fairfaxcounty.gov (Levy, Suzanne S.) Date: Thu Mar 8 17:10:28 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Research fees/Obituary Requests/Photograph copies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <99C1F7217998E84790D8D979BD81EF7406816136@FFXEXVM01.FFX.CO.FAIRFAX.VA.US>

The Virginia Room at the Fairfax City Regional Library, a branch of the Fairfax County Public Library, will answer email requests that can be emailed back at no charge. We use volunteers to search for obits and ask that we be given at least a month and year of death. We will also check our published death and cemetery records to try to find a date. Normally we find a death notice and email the contents back to the person. If they want a copy we ask them to send a SASE to us.

We also have an index to local newspapers on our web site. See http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/library/newsindex/default.asp

At the bottom of the results page you get this message:

Prefer to have copies sent to you? Order up to 10 articles at a time via e-mail or by phone at 703-293-6383 or by fax at 703-385-1911. Please include your street address. The fee is $.50 a page plus $2.50 for postage and handling. Allow at least 2 to 4 weeks for delivery.

I should add that the $2.50 postage and handling is for up to 10 copies.

As for photos we chage $8 to scan and email a photo. If it takes more time we will charge somewhat more. We provide prints for $12 for an inhouse inkjet print up to 8x10. When we have to go to an outside vendor for prints we get you a quote which generally run $40 and up and we charge $3 on top of that.

We do not charge for research questions but often use volunteers to do them. If the answer takes more than $1 worth of photocopies we charge $.25/page and ask them to add on the postage and reimburse us.

Our library policy is to fax up to 15 pages at no charge.

Suzanne S. Levy, Virginia Room Librarian Fairfax City Regional Library 3915 Chain Bridge Road Fairfax VA 22030 703-293-6383 http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/library/branches/vr/ [email protected]

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I will be out of the office starting 08/03/2007 and will not return until 13/03/2007.

If the matter is urgent please contact Patrick Gregory, Information Services Manager on 8664 7175 or by email [email protected]

From TVajdik at windsorpubliclibrary.com Thu Mar 8 17:22:35 2007 From: TVajdik at windsorpubliclibrary.com (Tom Vajdik) Date: Thu Mar 8 17:23:01 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Research fees/Obituary Requests/Photograph copies In-Reply-To: <200703071439758.SM00972@CATALOGING> References: <200703071439758.SM00972@CATALOGING> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

For people who request one obituary from our Local Newspaper and if they can provide the exact date, we charge $5.00. (This has been made easier by the obituary database which we have created for our local newspaper. The date of the obit is given in the citation, not the actual date of death. The searchable date range is 1946-2006, and earlier years are still being added).

Our research fees are $60.00 for 1 hour of research available in units of 15 minutes (15 minutes for $15.00). Printing charges are $1.00 per page, with the minimum being $5.00.

The gray area is when we receive requests for multiple obituaries. I can usually find 3 obituary notices under 15 minutes, and then we only charge the $1.00 for each photocopy. For longer lists, especially those that will take more that 15 minutes, we then revert to the research fees as mentioned above.

______>>> [email protected] 3/7/2007 3:40:01 pm >>>

We are revamping out policy on Research Fees. Can some of you please share with me your policies procedures on your research fees, multiple obituary requests, and requests for copies (emailed) of photographs?

Thanks in advance!

Niki Stallings

Head of Technical Services

Henderson County Public Library

101 South Main Street Henderson, Kentucky 42420

Tom Vajdik Genealogy and Local History Librarian Windsor Public Library 850 Ouellette Ave. Windsor, Ont. Canada N9A 4M9 tel: 519-255-6770 ext. 4434 e-mail: [email protected]

From WuehlerAC at ldschurch.org Thu Mar 8 17:54:35 2007 From: WuehlerAC at ldschurch.org (Anne Wuehler) Date: Thu Mar 8 17:54:49 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Librarian course 2008 Salt Lake Institute of Genealogy Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Hello everyone,

Each year in January, the Utah Genealogical Society hosts the Salt Lake Institute of Genealogy. A week-long course consists of 20 classes. In 2008, they are offering a Librarian course. I'm the coordinator of this course and I'm in the preliminary stage of recommending topics and teachers for 20 classes. If you have suggestions for topics or teachers, please email me off line at [email protected].

Thanks.

Anne

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We schedule one morning twice a month for three genealogy appointments (we chose the first and third Thursday of each month, a morning when all of our staff are on duty). We call it "The Genealogy Doctor is In." Appointments are scheduled for 30 minutes, with a 15 minute break in between. In reality appointments often last the full 45 minutes. We try to concentrate on one or two brickwalls, going over what they have already done and listing possible plans of action. We can also use this time to work with individuals who are just getting started.

If the regular appointment day is inconvenient, we are willing to set up appointments at other times. We've been doing this since 2001. It has been very favorably received and, along with our regular monthly programs, has helped encourage use of our collection. There is no charge for this service.

Donald L. Wilson, Virginiana Librarian, Ruth E. Lloyd Information Center for Genealogy and Local History (RELIC), Prince William Public Library System, Bull Run Regional Library, 8051 Ashton Avenue, Manassas, VA 20109-2892. 703-792-4540. www.pwcgov.org/library/relic

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joanne McCarthy Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Inhouse Genealogy Consultations

Hi everyone, we are considering expanding our genealogy programming at the Halifax Public Libraries, here in Nova Scotia.

An idea came up about offering a one-on-one genealogy consultation service for our patrons. We already do this for our business patrons, introducing them to materials and resources inhouse. We also make referrals to other agencies within the community who offer like-minded service. We typically book them for 45 minutes before the library opens so they get one on one service

Am thinking of doing the same for genealogy. We wouldn't be doing the research,but showing patrons how to use primary source indexes, local history, how to manuals, internet, as well as suggesting courses of action. Ie) "have you looked at census records yet"...

Does anyone offer this type of service and would be willing to offer advice or suggestions on how to pull this off? Does anyone charge for this or consider this a free service, etc, etc. all the best Joanne

Joanne McCarthy Reference Librarian Halifax Regional Library 5381 Spring Garden Road Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 1E9 902-490-5813 (phone) 902-490-5746 (fax) www.halifaxpubliclibraries.ca

______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib From Seslee2 at cs.com Thu Mar 8 21:02:44 2007 From: Seslee2 at cs.com ([email protected]) Date: Thu Mar 8 21:02:49 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Free for cost of postage Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Ideally one library will need all copies of a given title to cut down on the number of separate mailings.

Available for the cost of postage:

South Carolina Historical Magazine, October 2000, Vol. 101, No. 4 South Carolina Historical Magazine, April 2001, Vol. 102, No. 2 South Carolina Historical Magazine, April 2002, Vol. 103, No. 2

Connecticut Nutmegger, 1986-7, Vol. 19, Nos. 1-4 Connecticut Nutmegger, 1987-8, Vol. 20, Nos. 1-4 Connecticut Nutmegger, 1988-9, Vol. 21, Nos. 1-4 Connecticut Nutmegger, 1989-90, Vol. 22, Nos. 1-4 Connecticut Nutmegger, 1990-1, Vol. 23, Nos. 1-4 Connecticut Nutmegger, 1991-2, Vol. 24, Nos. 1-4 Connecticut Nutmegger, 1992, Vol. 25, Nos. 1-3

Connecticut Historical Society Bulletin, Spring 1986, Vol. 51, No. 2

History of Ripley County, Missouri

Huxford Genealogical Society Magazine, March 1988, Vol. XV, No. 1 Huxford Genealogical Society Magazine, September 1988, Vol. XV, No. 3 Huxford Genealogical Society Magazine, December 1988, Vol. XV, No. 4 Huxford Genealogical Society Magazine, March 1992, Vol. XIX, No. 1 Huxford Genealogical Society Magazine, December 1992, Vol. XIX, No. 4 Huxford Genealogical Society Magazine, June 1998, Vol. XXV, No. 2 Huxford Genealogical Society Magazine, December 1998, Vol. XXV, No. 4 Huxford Genealogical Society Magazine, June 2000, Vol. XXVII, No. 2 Huxford Genealogical Society Magazine, September 2000, Vol. XXVII, No. 3 Huxford Genealogical Society Magazine, December 2000, Vol. XXVII, No. 4 Huxford Genealogical Society Magazine, March 2001, Vol. XXVIII, No. 1

Sharen Lee Reference Librarian Bull Street Library 2002 Bull Street Savannah, GA 31404 [email protected] (912)652-3697 From joyrichny at earthlink.net Thu Mar 8 23:18:50 2007 From: joyrichny at earthlink.net (Joy Rich) Date: Thu Mar 8 23:18:54 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Family History and the Holocaust: A Day of Learning Message-ID: <016701c76202$0aa52440$6401a8c0@DELL> "Family History and the Holocaust: A Day of Learning"

The Jewish Genealogical Society will present an all-day seminar, "Family History and the Holocaust: A Day of Learning," on Sunday, April 22nd. Five speakers will cover a wide range of Holocaust-related themes. The speakers are:

** NOLAN ALTMAN, Coordinator of JewishGen's Holocaust Database. Mr. Altman has presented his "How to Document and Research Your Family History" seminar to a university Holocaust history class and numerous adult education classes. He is Technical Coordinator for JewishGen's JOWBR (cemetery burial indexing) project as well as Project Coordinator for the presentation of the English translation of the Deblin Yizkor book in an online format. Mr. Altman has had articles published in these magazines and journals: "Stammbaum," "FEEFHS Journal," "Shemot," "Avotaynu," "Dorot: The Journal of the Jewish Genealogical Society," and "The Jewish Magazine."

** ZVI BERNHARDT, Assistant Director of the Hall of Names and Deputy Director of the Reference and Information unit at Yad Vashem. A member of the development team for the user interface for The Central Database of Holocaust Victims' Names, Dr. Bernhardt has been instrumental in the provision of Yad Vashem's interdepartmental and interdisciplinary services to the public. He is also credited with administering the digitization of names of Shoah victims from Yizkor books, resulting in the addition of 250,000 names to the Central Database. As Yad Vashem's liaison to genealogical organizations, Dr. Bernhardt has addressed numerous genealogy workshops and seminars and has worked closely with JewishGen, the 24th IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy in 2004, and groups in Israel, such as the Tapuz Family Roots forum.

** JAN TOMASZ GROSS, Norman B. Tomlinson Professor of War and Society at Princeton University. Dr. Gross was born in Warsaw and is now an American citizen. He has held academic appointments at the University of Haifa, New York University, University of Vienna, University of Paris, and Yale and Harvard universities, among many others. He is the recipient of many honors and awards, including a Senior Fulbright Research Fellowship, a fellowship from IREX (International Research & Exchanges Board), a Rockefeller Humanities Fellowship, the Distinguished Humanist Award from Ohio State University, and the Order of Merit, Knight's Cross from the Polish Republic in 1996. Dr. Gross was nominated for the National Book Critics Circle Award for non-fiction in 2002 and a National Book Award in 2001 from the National Book Foundation. Among his dozens of publications are his widely discussed book, "Neighbors: Destruction of the Jewish Community in Jedwabne, Poland," Princeton and Oxford: Princeton University Press, 2001, and his most recent book, "Fear: Anti-Semitism in Poland After Auschwitz. An Essay in Historical Interpretation," Random House: New York, 2006.

** PETER LAND?, United States Holocaust Memorial Museum volunteer extraordinaire. Mr. Land? was born in Germany and came to the United States in 1937. He was a State Department Foreign Service Officer from 1956 to 1988. Over the past fifteen years, he has collected and processed numerous lists of Holocaust victims and survivors for the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum and JewishGen databases. These combined databases now total more than four million names. In 2001, Mr. Land? received the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies' Lifetime Achievement Award for his work on Holocaust records.

** ROBERT MOSES SHAPIRO, Assistant Professor of East European Jewish Studies, Holocaust Studies and Yiddish in the Department of Judaic Studies at Brooklyn College of the City University of New York. Dr. Shapiro has been a Fellow of the Max Weinreich Center of the YIVO Institute for Jewish Research and both a Fulbright Fellow and a Yad Ha-Nadiv Fellow at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. He has edited two volumes: "Holocaust Chronicles: Individualizing the Holocaust through Diaries and Other Contemporaneous Personal Accounts," Hoboken, NJ: Yeshiva University Press in Association with KTAV, 1999, and "Why Didn't the Press Shout? American and International Journalism during the Holocaust," Hoboken, NJ: Yeshiva University Press in Association with KTAV, 2003. In 2006, Indiana University Press in association with the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, published Dr. Shapiro's translation from Yiddish, Polish, German, and Hebrew of Isaiah Trunk's classic "Lodz Ghetto: A History." Dr. Shapiro is currently completing the editing of his translation from Polish of the new catalog of the Ringelblum Archive of the Warsaw Ghetto at the Jewish Historical Institute in Poland. Other projects under way include translations of diaries from the Lodz ghetto.

The seminar will take place from 9:15 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. at Hebrew Union College, located at 1 West 4th Street at Broadway in Greenwich Village, Manhattan. Registration starts at 9:15 a.m. The first lecture starts at 9:45 a.m. Further details about the lecture topics, along with a complete time schedule of the speakers, will be announced on the JGS website at http://www.jgsny.org/dayoflearning.htm .

The early registration fee is $25 for JGS members registering by March 31st; late registration costs $30. The early registration fee is $35 for non-members registering by March 31st; late registration costs $40. A kosher buffet lunch is included.

The seminar takes the place of JGS's regularly scheduled April meeting. The last two seminar lectures will be open to all JGS members. Payment of a registration fee is not required to attend those two lectures. The fee for non-members for the two lectures is $10.

The seminar flyer and registration form can be printed out from http://www.jgsny.org/Family_History_and_the_Holocaust_Flyer.pdf .

If you have any questions about the seminar, you can e-mail [email protected] or call (212) 294-8326.

Joy Rich Editor, "Dorot: The Journal of the Jewish Genealogical Society" http://www.jgsny.org

From llindsay at lib.az.us Fri Mar 9 09:45:22 2007 From: llindsay at lib.az.us (Lorin Lindsay) Date: Fri Mar 9 09:45:07 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Librarian course 2008 Salt Lake Institute of Genealogy In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Anne,

What was the program and concept you presented to the Program Committee for the 2008 Institute? Is it anything similar to the program at the Univ. of Toronto genealogical online studies program, http://www.genealogicalstudies.com/

Lorin Lindsay, Genealogy Librarian, Arizona State Library, Archives and Public Records

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anne Wuehler Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 3:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Librarian course 2008 Salt Lake Institute of Genealogy

Hello everyone,

Each year in January, the Utah Genealogical Society hosts the Salt Lake Institute of Genealogy. A week-long course consists of 20 classes. In 2008, they are offering a Librarian course. I'm the coordinator of this course and I'm in the preliminary stage of recommending topics and teachers for 20 classes. If you have suggestions for topics or teachers, please email me off line at [email protected].

Thanks.

Anne

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NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.

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Good question, Lorin

The University of Toronto offers courses that are comparable (maybe not the best word) to online college courses. A person registers for one course, such as 21st Century Genealogy Services. Classes deal with subjects relating to the course title. Each course lasts 6-8 weeks.

The Salt Lake Institute classes are one hour each so they will not be as indepth as the U of Toronto. Each one will focus on a particular subject, such as digitizing and scanning, or academic library collections for genealogists. I don't have the list of suggested titles right now but I can post it later if anyone wants to see it.

Does this answer your question Lorin?

Anne

>> What was the program and concept you presented to the Program Committee for the 2008 Institute? Is it anything similar to the program at the Univ. of Toronto genealogical online studies program, http://www.genealogicalstudies.com/ Lorin Lindsay, Genealogy Librarian, Arizona State Library, Archives and Public Records

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Researchers interested in this topic are invited to a free lecture by Char McCargo Bah called "Tracing Your Free and Enslaved Ancestors." The program is Friday, March 16th at Local History/Special Collections, Alexandria Library, 717 Queen Street, Alexandria, VA 22314. Please call (703) 838-4577 x213 to reserve your seat.

Leslie Anderson Morales Reference Librarian Local History/Special Collections Alexandria Library 717 Queen Street Alexandria, VA 22314-2420 (703) 838-4577 x213 http://www.alexandria.lib.va.us/branches/lhsc.html

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Regarding the African American program: I cannot attend this program, however I am very interested in receiving any handouts, notes, etc. from this particular workshop, and willing to pay for the material. Can you please advise.

Lyn Meehan Library Technician / Genealogist Information Services Division Edmonton Public Library Edmonton, Alberta, Canada email: [email protected] ______

From: [email protected] on behalf of Leslie Morales Sent: Fri 3/9/2007 9:50 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: [Genealib] African American Genealogy

Researchers interested in this topic are invited to a free lecture by Char McCargo Bah called "Tracing Your Free and Enslaved Ancestors." The program is Friday, March 16th at Local History/Special Collections, Alexandria Library, 717 Queen Street, Alexandria, VA 22314. Please call (703) 838-4577 x213 to reserve your seat.

Leslie Anderson Morales Reference Librarian Local History/Special Collections Alexandria Library 717 Queen Street Alexandria, VA 22314-2420 (703) 838-4577 x213 http://www.alexandria.lib.va.us/branches/lhsc.html

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Ditto here, please respond to the list as I am sure many are interested. thanks John Lyles Archivist Columbus Public Library 3000 Macon Road Columbus, GA 31906 706-243-2681

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:genealib- [email protected]]On Behalf Of Lyn Meehan Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:30 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: RE: [Genealib] African American Genealogy Regarding the African American program: I cannot attend this program, however I am very interested in receiving any handouts, notes, etc. from this particular workshop, and willing to pay for the material. Can you please advise.

Lyn Meehan Library Technician / Genealogist Information Services Division Edmonton Public Library Edmonton, Alberta, Canada email: [email protected]

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From: [email protected] on behalf of Leslie Morales Sent: Fri 3/9/2007 9:50 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: [Genealib] African American Genealogy

Researchers interested in this topic are invited to a free lecture by Char McCargo Bah called "Tracing Your Free and Enslaved Ancestors." The program is Friday, March 16th at Local History/Special Collections, Alexandria Library, 717 Queen Street, Alexandria, VA 22314. Please call (703) 838-4577 x213 to reserve your seat.

Leslie Anderson Morales Reference Librarian Local History/Special Collections Alexandria Library 717 Queen Street Alexandria, VA 22314-2420 (703) 838-4577 x213 http://www.alexandria.lib.va.us/branches/lhsc.html

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Anne,

Thank you for your response. Please post the suggestions for the 2008 Institute when you have them. It might help people to decide if they want to attend or not.

Lorin Lindsay

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anne Wuehler Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:45 AM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: RE: [Genealib] Librarian course 2008 Salt Lake Institute of Genealogy

Good question, Lorin

The University of Toronto offers courses that are comparable (maybe not the best word) to online college courses. A person registers for one course, such as 21st Century Genealogy Services. Classes deal with subjects relating to the course title. Each course lasts 6-8 weeks.

The Salt Lake Institute classes are one hour each so they will not be as indepth as the U of Toronto. Each one will focus on a particular subject, such as digitizing and scanning, or academic library collections for genealogists. I don't have the list of suggested titles right now but I can post it later if anyone wants to see it.

Does this answer your question Lorin?

Anne

>>

What was the program and concept you presented to the Program Committee for the 2008 Institute? Is it anything similar to the program at the Univ. of Toronto genealogical online studies program, http://www.genealogicalstudies.com/

Lorin Lindsay, Genealogy Librarian, Arizona State Library, Archives and Public Records

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Thank you for your interest. I don't know if handouts are available but will inquire.

LAM

Lyn Meehan wrote:

>Regarding the African American program: I cannot attend this program, however I am very interested in receiving any handouts, notes, etc. from this particular workshop, and willing to pay for the material. Can you please advise. > >Lyn Meehan >Library Technician / Genealogist >Information Services Division >Edmonton Public Library >Edmonton, Alberta, Canada >email: [email protected] > >______> >From: [email protected] on behalf of Leslie Morales >Sent: Fri 3/9/2007 9:50 AM >To: [email protected]; [email protected]; Librarians Serving Genealogists >Subject: [Genealib] African American Genealogy > > >Researchers interested in this topic are invited to a free lecture by Char McCargo Bah called "Tracing Your Free and Enslaved Ancestors." >The program is Friday, March 16th at Local History/Special Collections, Alexandria Library, 717 Queen Street, Alexandria, VA 22314. >Please call (703) 838-4577 x213 to reserve your seat. > >Leslie Anderson Morales >Reference Librarian >Local History/Special Collections >Alexandria Library >717 Queen Street >Alexandria, VA 22314-2420 >(703) 838-4577 x213 >http://www.alexandria.lib.va.us/branches/lhsc.html > > > > > >------> >______>genealib mailing list >[email protected] >http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib > ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070309/988bf4c4/ attachment.html From lmorales at alexandria.lib.va.us Fri Mar 9 16:45:27 2007 From: lmorales at alexandria.lib.va.us (Leslie Morales) Date: Fri Mar 9 16:44:00 2007 Subject: [Genealib] African American Genealogy (1 of 2) In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Ms. Bah's lecture is from 10:30am - 12:30pm on Friday, March 16th. Apologies for the omission. LAM

Leslie Morales wrote:

> Researchers interested in this topic are invited to a free lecture by > Char McCargo Bah called "Tracing Your Free and Enslaved Ancestors." > The program is Friday, March 16th at Local History/Special > Collections, Alexandria Library, 717 Queen Street, Alexandria, VA 22314. > Please call (703) 838-4577 x213 to reserve your seat. > > Leslie Anderson Morales > Reference Librarian > Local History/Special Collections > Alexandria Library > 717 Queen Street > Alexandria, VA 22314-2420 > (703) 838-4577 x213 > http://www.alexandria.lib.va.us/branches/lhsc.html > > ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070309/13e1c665/ attachment.html From lnaukam at mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us Fri Mar 9 17:14:11 2007 From: lnaukam at mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us (Larry Naukam) Date: Fri Mar 9 17:10:07 2007 Subject: [Genealib] policies on copies... In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

We have learned through hard experience that we had to set specific limits and prices. Rochester PL has the following practices:

1. All fees are set by the boards of trustees, not by the library or the librarians.

2. Local libraries (we are the central city in a populous county) can do whatever they please. They are affiliated but no subject to our decisions

3. We don't do research per se, except as part of an email or letter request. We will allow 10 to 15 minutes for such a request, and then we report back what we found. We are not genealogists, and do not "certify" or searches; rather we make a best guess and let the patron know that

4. We have a list of researchers who have asked to be put on that list. We do not have an evaluation or test that we give them. Only a couple times in 30 years have we had a problem, and it was resolved by asking the searcher for hire if they minded that we were dropping them off the list. There was no problem that way.

5. We will honor multiple obits requests, but in this way: if we have to look them up unindexed, we will do up to 4 at once. Ten bucks a piece.

6. Anything that is in the life records database (http://monroecounty.entrexp.com/liferecords/index.asp?sessionid=&body=recor ds§ion=selType&tempId=&title=Search%20Records) MUST be ordered through it. No exceptions. 10 dollars a copy.

7. Some items appear in the 1818-1903 newspaper indexes. Same deal (it's not online yet). 10 bucks a copy.

8. We can provide these copies on paper or digitally. We don't fax out, or have a rush service.

9. We can provide copies of pictures through the Rochester Images web site (http://www2.libraryweb.org/index.asp?orgid=91&storyTypeID=&sid=&). That being said, only 1/4 of our picture collection is in there. We can technically email items, but usually they are sent on a CD. We do not allow photocopies of the pictures. We do allow someone to use a digital camera to take such pictures. We also have an approved outsider who can make prints (this was "told" to us, we did not have any say in the choice).

10. There are tight legal restrictions on items belonging to the Rochester Historical Society, which are and have been on deposit since 1936 at the library. They cannot be duplicated in any way (by us or the user). Users must go through the RHS for copies and permissions.

Any questions, please feel free to contact me.

From lmorales at alexandria.lib.va.us Fri Mar 9 17:40:56 2007 From: lmorales at alexandria.lib.va.us (Leslie Morales) Date: Fri Mar 9 17:39:39 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Re: African American Genealogy (2) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <[email protected]>

There is at least one case of "an unbroken paper trail" from Africa to Charleston, South Carolina.

Thomalind Martin Polite is a direct descendant of a 10 year old girl who was kidnapped from Africa in 1756, placed aboard the slave ship Hare in Sierra Leone, and sold in the Charleston market to rice planter Elias Ball. This series of events was brought to light by Edward Ball, author of Slaves in the Family, and anthropologist Joseph Opala, who has spent more than thirty years researching the Gullah/Sierra Leone connection.

In May 2005, Mrs. Polite and her husband traveled to Sierra Leone at the invitation of President Kabbah. (In the interest of disclosure: I traveled with the Polites and a selected group of scholars, writers, and community activists).

To learn more, visit Yale University's "Priscilla's Homecoming" website at www.yale.edu/glc/priscilla. Documents and images tell the full story of Priscilla's capture, the voyage to Charleston on a slave ship that originated in Rhode Island, and her purchase by Elias Ball. To view a travelogue and photo diary, visit, www.AfricanHeritage.com and click on "Priscilla's Homecoming."

The events leading up to and including the Homecoming have also been described in magazines -- "Building a Bridge to Africa," American Legacy (Winter 2007) and "Long Journey Home." Charleston Magazine (February 2005) -- and serialized in newspapers by Herb Frazier (Charleston Post and Courier) and Paul Davis (Providence Journal).

Leslie Anderson Morales Reference Librarian Local History/Special Collections Alexandria Library 717 Queen Street Alexandria, VA 22314 (703) 838-4577 x213 http://www.alexandria.lib.va.us/branches/lhsc.html

Henry Wiencek wrote:

>Through searching plantation and court records it is possible to identify >the ancestor who was brought from Africa, though I am not aware of any >examples. I wouldn't be surprised if someone has done it. Ed Ball and the >people working with him may have done this. Newly arrived young slaves were >taken into court to have their ages established for tax purposes, and their >names were recorded. > >Henry Wiencek > > > > > ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070309/ c1fb7f5f/attachment.html From amy at amyjohnsoncrow.com Fri Mar 9 21:20:35 2007 From: amy at amyjohnsoncrow.com (Amy Johnson Crow) Date: Fri Mar 9 21:20:48 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Ohio Genealogical Society conference update Message-ID: <[email protected]>

An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070309/5db55f9a/ attachment.html From lauralee04 at msn.com Fri Mar 9 23:00:00 2007 From: lauralee04 at msn.com (Laura Lee) Date: Fri Mar 9 22:54:51 2007 Subject: [Genealib] cancel Message-ID: please cancel ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070309/3ca49644/ attachment.html From LIPS0160 at aol.com Sat Mar 10 00:00:25 2007 From: LIPS0160 at aol.com ([email protected]) Date: Sat Mar 10 00:00:36 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Inhouse Genealogy Consultations / Genealogical Studies Toronto Message-ID:

Subject: [Genealib] Inhouse Genealogy Consultations we are considering expanding our genealogy programming at the Halifax Public Libraries, here in Nova Scotia.

Hi Joanne,

I work in the Local History Room at the Bloomingdale Public Library in Bloomingdale, Illinois. We have a program called "Genealogy Club" on the fourth Thursday of every month in one of our meeting rooms where we have computers set up to do, mainly, records searching and Internet genealogy (with instruction for newbies to advanced) - but we also help and lecture with respect to on-site or archival genealogy.

When I came to work at the library 2 years ago, there wasn't a genealogist working there. It was a great fit with my background and expanded - at my request - to include 30 - 45 minute sessions with patrons or anyone interested in genealogy that was having trouble (brickwalls or "what to do next") during the hours when I was on staff during the week. It has been a great success and patron feedback has been wonderful. I must say, though, that if you are going to offer this service that the key to success is to let it be known that you offer it, through a library newsletter or the press. We did both and the surprising response was generally, "We had no idea that this was even available". It boosted the sessions throughout the week and boosted attendance in the club as well.

On a side note, in response to another post - I am currently taking the Librarianship course through Genealogical Studies and I've found it to be challenging and a wonderful experience. The instructors are all certified and just wonderful. The individual classes included in the Librarianship course last about ten weeks (there are 12 classes in all) and cover pertinent topics related to what you would need to know for your collection at the library as well as handling patron requests.

Leslie Drewitz Bloomingdale Public Library Genealogy / Local History


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Significant Computer Educational Information: MIT & BYU

I recently wrote an item concerning: BYU's 10th Annual Computerized Family History and Genealogy Conference will teach the community to integrate computers and genealogy. http://nn.byu.edu/story.cfm/63268

I will further note a few additional resources of interest. First: Schools - Colleges - Universities: Alumni and Genealogy Education http://www.academic-genealogy.com/schoolscollegesuniversities.htm This site has a sub section: Online Education & Resources http://www.academic-genealogy.com/schoolscollegesuniversities.htm#Online

At the top of this sub section is the following significant information for all on this list: OpenCourseWare Consortium: Opencourseware Projects Worldwide Collaboration of more than 100 higher education institutions and associated organizations from around the world creating a broad and deep body of open educational content, to advance education and empower people worldwide.

MIT: Massachusetts Institute of Technology OpenCourseWare: Free educational resource (OER) for educators, students and self-learners worldwide. MIT, involved in computer science, physics and mathematics, will provide approximately 1,800 courses free on the Internet, by the end of A.D. 2007. Second: Archives and Knowledge Management - Scholarly Online Resource Evidence and Records for use by Genealogists and Family Historians http://www.academic-genealogy.com/archives.htm

Site sub section: Community, Maps & Geography http://www.academic-genealogy.com/archives.htm#Community Beginning with Administrative Division: List of Country Subdivisions and Table of Administrative Country Subdivisions by Country; also continuing with local resources, the world is covered within the scope of a few clicks on the computer keyboard.

REFERENCE: BYU's 10th Annual Computerized Family History and Genealogy Conference will teach the community to integrate computers and genealogy. http://nn.byu.edu/story.cfm/63268

I would suggest a review of the Family Genealogy & History Internet Education Directory. It has the Computer - Internet - Software: Genealogy Programs Support resources for the experienced computer user, genealogist, family historian, or Newbie just beginning to learn about the Internet. http://www.academic-genealogy.com/computerinternetsoftware.htm

This is a noted professional worldwide humanities and social sciences mega portal, connected directly to thousands of related sub-sets, with billions of primary or secondary database family history and genealogy records. http://www.academic-genealogy.com/regionalgenealogy.htm

It encompasses all other key worldwide genealogy sites. It includes all pertinent genealogy-related web pages from scholarly societies, professional society organizations and informational Wikipedia entries. http://www.academic-genealogy.com/

REFERENCE: One example, from Education Publications and Online Books, http://www.academic-genealogy.com/bookspublicationsgenealogical.htm#Edpub by Princeton Public Library, lists United States Digital Libraries online. http://www.princeton.lib.nj.us/research/links/genealogy-digital.html Another example, shows the new creation of the World Digital Library. http://www.worlddigitallibrary.org/project/english/

Genealogy Webmaster - Webmasters Homepage Construction http://www.academic-genealogy.com/genealogywebmasters.htm#construction has Social Networks Resources, linked directly to Communities & Chat Directories. These resources include the very new Ning, that allows individuals to create, customize, and share new Social Networks for free, in seconds. http://www.academic-genealogy.com/whocanfindpeople.htm#Chat

Respectfully yours,

Tom Tinney, Sr. Who's Who in America, Millennium Edition [54th] through 2004 Who's Who In Genealogy and Heraldry, [both editions] Family Genealogy & History Internet Education Directory http://www.academic-genealogy.com/

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Up for grabs: for postage

These are used, Not exlib.

Both volumes both are well worn, are unmarked (except previous owners name) with clean texts and tight bindings. These two books are thick and heavy. (Texana|Texas Texana History) Volume 2 has water damage on bottom Pages are NOT stuck together.

Handbook of Texas, The. : Volume 1 / Walter Prescott Webb, editor-in-chief ; H. Bailey Carroll,. ; Texas State Historical Association. -- Austin, Texas : Texas State Historical Association., 1952-76. 975 p.

Handbook of Texas, The. : Volume 2 / Walter Prescott Webb, editor-in-chief ; H. Bailey Carroll,. ; Texas State Historical Association. -- Austin, Texas : Texas State Historical Association, 1952. 953 p.

Diane Lunow Stagecoach Library for Genealogical Research 585 County Road 1492 Wimberley, Texas 78676-5674

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BOOKS ARE GONE!

WOW! exactly 5 minutes! Thanks!

Up for grabs: for postage

These are used, Not exlib.

Both volumes both are well worn, are unmarked (except previous owners name) with clean texts and tight bindings. These two books are thick and heavy. (Texana|Texas Texana History) Volume 2 has water damage on bottom Pages are NOT stuck together.

Handbook of Texas, The. : Volume 1 / Walter Prescott Webb, editor-in-chief ; H. Bailey Carroll,. ; Texas State Historical Association. -- Austin, Texas : Texas State Historical Association., 1952-76.? 975 p.

Handbook of Texas, The. : Volume 2 / Walter Prescott Webb, editor-in-chief ; H. Bailey Carroll,. ; Texas State Historical Association. -- Austin, Texas : Texas State Historical Association, 1952.? 953 p.

Diane Lunow Stagecoach Library for Genealogical Research 585 County Road 1492 Wimberley, Texas 78676-5674

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I will be out of the office starting 03/10/2007 and will not return until 03/13/2007.

If you require more immediate assistance, please contact AskUs, our e-mail reference service at [email protected] or call our Information Desk at 905-815-2044 during business hours.

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> > I will be out of the office starting 03/10/2007 and will not return until > 03/13/2007. > > If you require more immediate assistance, please contact AskUs, our e-mail > reference service at [email protected] or call our Information Desk > at 905-815-2044 during business hours. > > > ______> genealib mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib

From dlwilson at pwcgov.org Sat Mar 10 14:36:56 2007 From: dlwilson at pwcgov.org (Wilson, Donald L) Date: Sat Mar 10 14:36:58 2007 Subject: [Genealib] What's New in RELIC (March 2007) Message-ID:

WHAT'S NEW IN RELIC

March 2007

The Ruth E. Lloyd Information Center for Genealogy and Local History (RELIC), Prince William Public Library System, Bull Run Regional Library, 8051 Ashton Avenue, Manassas, VA 20109. 703-792-4540 Email: [email protected] .

To read the latest lists of new materials in RELIC go to www.pwcgov.org/library/relic and click on New Acquisitions.

THE LATEST ON BULL RUN'S CLOSING

Bull Run Regional Library will be closed from Monday, March 26 through Sunday June 10 for heating and air conditioning work. During April and May 2007 the RELIC staff will be stationed at the Chinn Park Regional Library along with a portion of our collection devoted to Prince William County history and genealogy. We will also utilize the considerable historical resources of the Chinn Park Library. We will continue to offer assistance to researchers by phone, email and in person, six days a week, including three evenings.

The Chinn Park Regional Library is located at 13065 Chinn Park Drive at Prince William, Virginia, near the intersection of the Prince William Parkway and Old Bridge Road.

Our planned schedule at Chinn Park, beginning Monday, April 2, is Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday 10am-9pm, Thursday 10am-6pm, Friday and Saturday 10am-5pm. During that time we will be sharing space at the Management and Government Information Center (MAGIC), at the rear of the library.

During our absence from Bull Run, RELIC staff will conduct daytime programs at the three other full-service branches. See our upcoming program schedule below for details. We encourage you to continue to contact RELIC with your questions about genealogy and local history. TIME OUT FOR GENEALOGY:

Daytime Programs to Broaden Your Skills

Presented by the staff of RELIC, these programs are designed for persons who want to learn basic and specialized techniques of family history research but who may be unable to come to an evening program. Each session will last about one hour, including time for questions and answers. You may register for any in this series by calling RELIC at 703-792-4540 or (TTY) 703-792-4524 or by email at [email protected] . Here are the sessions and locations scheduled for March, April and May:

Wednesday, March 14, 11 a.m. - A Genealogical Library on Your Desktop. Finding your family in online books. RELIC's Don Wilson's guide to finding electronic books and making the most of them. Bull Run Regional Library (Also repeated May 22)

Thursday, March 22, 11 a.m. - Family Search Indexing: A New Vision for Online Genealogy, presented by Julie Gideon of the Centreville Family History Center. Bull Run Regional Library . (A repeat of our January 23 program.)

Monday, April 9, 2 p.m. - Genealogy 101: Family History for Beginners. Central Community Library (See also April 19 and 24)

Tuesday, April 17, 2 p.m. - Interlibrary Loan for Genealogists. Central Community Library

Thursday, April 19, 11 a.m. - Genealogy 101: Family History for Beginners. Potomac Community Library (Repeat of the April 9 program)

Tuesday, April 24, 2 p.m. - Genealogy 101: Family History for Beginners. Chinn Park Regional Library (Repeat of the April 9 program)

Tuesday, May 1, 11 a.m. - Missed by the Census Taker? Tips for those missed by census indexes. Chinn Park Regional Library

Monday, May 7, 2 p.m. - Finding Your Ancestor in the News. Sources to flesh out your ancestor's story. Central Community Library

Thursday, May 10, 11 a.m. - Not Found on a Passenger List? Tips for those missed by immigration indexes. Chinn Park Regional Library

Tuesday, May 22, 2 p.m. - A Genealogical Library on Your Desktop. Finding Your Family in Online Books. Central Community Library (Repeat of the March 14 program)

Tuesday, May 29, 11 a.m. - Electronic Resources for Family History. Sources available through PWPLS. Potomac Community Library

Thursday, May 31, 11 a.m. - An Overview of RELIC Services: Genealogy and Local History. Chinn Park Regional Library

THE GENEALOGY DOCTOR IS IN

For tips on starting your own research or to help solve a genealogical or historical problem that has stumped you, schedule a private, 30-minute visit with RELIC's Don Wilson. Generally the First and Third Thursdays of each month, 10:00 a.m. - 12 noon.

Upcoming available dates:

March 15 at Bull Run Regional Library.

April 5 and 19 at Chinn Park Regional Library.

Choice of times: 10:00, 10:45, 11:30 a.m.

Call RELIC at 703-792-4540 for a free appointment. If the scheduled dates are not convenient for you, you may request an alternate day/time.

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Salt Lake Tribune, The (UT) - March 8, 2007 Courtesy: www.GenealogyBank.com

Diane Dieterle

Diane Dieterle "World's Greatest Genealogist" Diane Shutley Dieterle, age 67, died Wednesday, March 7, 2007 in West Jordan, Utah from complications of Acute Myeloid Leukemia. She was born March 16, 1939 in Atlanta, Georgia, to Charles Crosby and Mary Weaver Williams Shutley.

She was a graduate of Decatur High School and from Jacksonville State University, Jacksonville, Alabama, with a BA in History and English. She was a professional genealogist. She joined The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints March 13, 1958 and always said it was the best decision she ever made. She was always active in the church and devoted her entire adult life to the family history program. During her lifetime she amassed 69,000 family names in her computer and had enough temple ordinances done by proxy to fill up the entire 21,000 seat LDS Conference Center. She married John H Dieterle June 6, 1960 in the Salt Lake Temple.

She and her husband never had a "real" vacation, choosing instead to make every trip a genealogical trip. In the last five years she had made four trips back to Europe to bring home genealogical records from Germany, France, the Czech Republic and Switzerland. During her lifetime she published 13 family histories. Her church positions included Assistant Mission Genealogy Advisor (twice), Stake Family History Consultant (three times), Family History Center Director (three times), Ward Family History Consultant (many times), Gospel Doctrine teacher (for about 30 years), Primary President (twice), and a counselor in Relief Society and Young Women presidencies. Her favorite callings were always the teaching callings. She and her husband served two family history missions, first as the Directors of the New York City Family History Center, and later as missionaries at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City.

Her most notable accomplishment was organizing and operating the Genealogical Library for the Blind and Physically Handicapped, Inc., in Atlanta, Georgia. She designed pedigree charts and family group sheets in both Braille and large print for the blind. She wrote and starred in a six part TV series for the deaf called "Genealogy in Sign." She also wrote and starred in a 12-part TV series called "Genealogy for Fun" that aired on PBS for 17 years and still runs on occasion in the southern states.

Survived by her husband, Lt. Col. John H Dieterle, West Jordan; their children: Mary Lorraine Dieterle, Lehi; Claire Elizabeth Dieterle, Taylorsville; Benjamin Christian Dieterle, Salt Lake City; Charlotte McKenzie Dieterle Hatch, West Jordan; son-in-law, William Victor Hatch; three grandchildren: Kevin William Hatch, Elizabeth McKenzie Hatch, Caroline Michelle Hatch; brothers: Ronal Shutley, Alpharetta, GA; Crosby (Bing) Shutley, Converse, TX. She was preceded in death by her beloved firstborn, John H Dieterle, Jr., who received one of her kidneys. He died November 9, 1988 in Atlanta, Georgia. The family will receive visitors Saturday, March 10, 2007, 12:00-1:30 p.m. at the Cobble Creek Stake Center, 8150 South Grizzly Way (5410 West), West Jordan, Utah where the funeral will be held at 2:00 p.m. Burial will be in the family plot in the Decatur Cemetery, Decatur, Georgia on Monday, March 12, 2007, 2:00 p.m. Arrangements under the direction of McDougal Funeral Home.

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----- Original Message ----- From: Levy, Suzanne S. To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 5:10 PM Subject: [Genealib] Research fees/Obituary Requests/Photograph copies

The Virginia Room at the Fairfax City Regional Library, a branch of the Fairfax County Public Library, will answer email requests that can be emailed back at no charge. We use volunteers to search for obits and ask that we be given at least a month and year of death. We will also check our published death and cemetery records to try to find a date. Normally we find a death notice and email the contents back to the person. If they want a copy we ask them to send a SASE to us.

We also have an index to local newspapers on our web site. See http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/library/newsindex/default.asp

At the bottom of the results page you get this message:

Prefer to have copies sent to you? Order up to 10 articles at a time via e-mail or by phone at 703-293-6383 or by fax at 703-385-1911. Please include your street address. The fee is $.50 a page plus $2.50 for postage and handling. Allow at least 2 to 4 weeks for delivery.

I should add that the $2.50 postage and handling is for up to 10 copies.

As for photos we chage $8 to scan and email a photo. If it takes more time we will charge somewhat more. We provide prints for $12 for an inhouse inkjet print up to 8x10. When we have to go to an outside vendor for prints we get you a quote which generally run $40 and up and we charge $3 on top of that.

We do not charge for research questions but often use volunteers to do them. If the answer takes more than $1 worth of photocopies we charge $.25/page and ask them to add on the postage and reimburse us.

Our library policy is to fax up to 15 pages at no charge.

Suzanne S. Levy, Virginia Room Librarian Fairfax City Regional Library 3915 Chain Bridge Road Fairfax VA 22030 703-293-6383 http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/library/branches/vr/ [email protected]

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I often wondered what happened to Diane. She had the genealogical lending library at one time. She had quite a library and was gracious to loan books out to members. I'm so sorry to hear of her passing. Thank you for the information.

On 3/12/07, Kemp, Tom wrote: > > > > Salt Lake Tribune, The (UT) - March 8, 2007 > > Courtesy: www.GenealogyBank.com > > Diane Dieterle > > Diane Dieterle "World's Greatest Genealogist" Diane Shutley Dieterle, age > 67, died Wednesday, March 7, 2007 in West Jordan, Utah from complications of > Acute Myeloid Leukemia. She was born March 16, 1939 in Atlanta, Georgia, to > Charles Crosby and Mary Weaver Williams Shutley. > > > > She was a graduate of Decatur High School and from Jacksonville State > University, Jacksonville, Alabama, with a BA in History and English. She was > a professional genealogist. She joined The Church of Jesus Christ of > Latter-day Saints March 13, 1958 and always said it was the best decision > she ever made. She was always active in the church and devoted her entire > adult life to the family history program. During her lifetime she amassed > 69,000 family names in her computer and had enough temple ordinances done by > proxy to fill up the entire 21,000 seat LDS Conference Center. She married > John H Dieterle June 6, 1960 in the Salt Lake Temple. > > > > She and her husband never had a "real" vacation, choosing instead to make > every trip a genealogical trip. In the last five years she had made four > trips back to Europe to bring home genealogical records from Germany, > France, the Czech Republic and Switzerland. During her lifetime she > published 13 family histories. Her church positions included Assistant > Mission Genealogy Advisor (twice), Stake Family History Consultant (three > times), Family History Center Director (three times), Ward Family History > Consultant (many times), Gospel Doctrine teacher (for about 30 years), > Primary President (twice), and a counselor in Relief Society and Young Women > presidencies. Her favorite callings were always the teaching callings. She > and her husband served two family history missions, first as the Directors > of the New York City Family History Center, and later as missionaries at the > Family History Library in Salt Lake City. > > > > Her most notable accomplishment was organizing and operating the > Genealogical Library for the Blind and Physically Handicapped, Inc., in > Atlanta, Georgia. She designed pedigree charts and family group sheets in > both Braille and large print for the blind. She wrote and starred in a six > part TV series for the deaf called "Genealogy in Sign." She also wrote and > starred in a 12-part TV series called "Genealogy for Fun" that aired on PBS > for 17 years and still runs on occasion in the southern states. > > > > Survived by her husband, Lt. Col. John H Dieterle, West Jordan; their > children: Mary Lorraine Dieterle, Lehi; Claire Elizabeth Dieterle, > Taylorsville; Benjamin Christian Dieterle, Salt Lake City; Charlotte > McKenzie Dieterle Hatch, West Jordan; son-in-law, William Victor Hatch; > three grandchildren: Kevin William Hatch, Elizabeth McKenzie Hatch, Caroline > Michelle Hatch; brothers: Ronal Shutley, Alpharetta, GA; Crosby (Bing) > Shutley, Converse, TX. She was preceded in death by her beloved firstborn, > John H Dieterle, Jr., who received one of her kidneys. He died November 9, > 1988 in Atlanta, Georgia. The family will receive visitors Saturday, March > 10, 2007, 12:00-1:30 p.m. at the Cobble Creek Stake Center, 8150 South > Grizzly Way (5410 West), West Jordan, Utah where the funeral will be held at > 2:00 p.m. Burial will be in the family plot in the Decatur Cemetery, > Decatur, Georgia on Monday, March 12, 2007, 2:00 p.m. Arrangements under > the direction of McDougal Funeral Home. > > > > ______> genealib mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib > ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070312/62941f1b/ attachment.html From Leslie.Couture at cityofdenton.com Mon Mar 12 19:01:27 2007 From: Leslie.Couture at cityofdenton.com (Leslie Couture) Date: Mon Mar 12 19:02:02 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Portal to Texas History website In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

For those of you interested in finding Texas history, photos, old documents, books.... please check out this website: http://texashistory.unt.edu/browse/ click on "Browse by Contributor" to see the participating libraries & collections.

Currently, the Denton Public Library has 1,154 photos/books/documents online, but there will be more. Included is the 1890 & 1894 city business directory. More to follow.

Leslie Couture Emily Fowler Library Denton, TX

From llscott2000 at bellsouth.net Mon Mar 12 22:27:15 2007 From: llscott2000 at bellsouth.net (L.L. Scott) Date: Mon Mar 12 22:28:33 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Diane Dieterle 1939-2007 - Well known genealogist; organized a genealogy library for the blind & handicapped References: <0E6B372E915C2342B2E1CF7FBAAA2FF506B1A61B@NEMO.nbcorp.newsbank.com> Message-ID: <011c01c76517$1d83f970$6402a8c0@COMPUTER1>

Thank you so much for this notice. Diane gave a seminar at the Pensacola Stake Center many years ago. She and her husband had recently returned from duty in Germany. It was my first real seminar and I was so impressed.

----- Original Message ----- From: Kemp, Tom To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: [Genealib] Diane Dieterle 1939-2007 - Well known genealogist;organized a genealogy library for the blind & handicapped

Salt Lake Tribune, The (UT) - March 8, 2007

Courtesy: www.GenealogyBank.com

Diane Dieterle

Diane Dieterle "World's Greatest Genealogist" Diane Shutley Dieterle, age 67, died Wednesday, March 7, 2007 in West Jordan, Utah from complications of Acute Myeloid Leukemia. She was born March 16, 1939 in Atlanta, Georgia, to Charles Crosby and Mary Weaver Williams Shutley. /listinfo/genealib ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070312/1ce9b85b/ attachment.html From genealogy at morleylibrary.org Tue Mar 13 11:46:55 2007 From: genealogy at morleylibrary.org (Genealogy) Date: Tue Mar 13 11:50:36 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Citation sheet Message-ID: <[email protected]>

A short time ago someone on this list was looking for a citation sheet to place in a toploading poly notebook sleeve. It was described as having alternating gray and white stripes and including spaces to completely describe the source of the resource that would be placed in the same sleeve. In sorting through files today, I think I may have found a copy of this sheet. The title at the top is Reference Family Data Sheet. Along the left border is Copyright 1988, William Dollarhide, all rights reserved. Could this be the sheet in question?

Sally Malone Genealogy specialist [email protected]

-- [email protected] Genealogy and Local History Room Morley Library 184 Phelps Street Painesville, Ohio 44077-3926 (440) 352-3383 www.morleylibrary.org

Queries and answers are placed in publicly accessible Family Files cabinets as a service to researchers

From gukhow at netscape.net Tue Mar 13 20:12:29 2007 From: gukhow at netscape.net ([email protected]) Date: Tue Mar 13 20:12:33 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Arizona Books for Sale Message-ID: <[email protected]>

The Arizona Genealogical Advisory Board (AzGAB) is selling copies of its books.

1890 Great Registers of Arizona Compiled by Barbara Baldwin Salyer Cost: $75 post-paid; 361 pages, hard-bound, 2nd printing

The book replaces the 1890 Federal Population Census for Arizona. Where possible, the original handwritten registers were used.

Arizona Territorial Marriages The Arizona Territorial Marriage books cover the earliest extant civil record of marriages in these counties in the Territory of Arizona. They have not been microfilmed. The original entry books were used to compile the information contained within the books. Each book includes an index to brides and grooms, list of performing officials, and an index to others.

Graham 1881-1912 / Greenlee 1911 Counties Compiled by Fay L. Smith Arellano Cost: $40 post-paid; 297 pages, soft-bound

Navajo County 1895 - 1912 Compiled by Fay L. Smith Arellano Cost: $25 post-paid; 89 pages, soft-bound

Yuma County 1864 - 1912 Compiled by Fay L. Smith Arellano Cost: $30 post-paid; 185 pages, soft-bound

To order contact AzGAB Book Sales, P.O. Box 5641, Mesa, AZ 85211-5641

We accept purchase orders from libraries.

Betsy Howard, AzGAB Secretary ______Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070313/0028d54b/ attachment.html From archives at uww.edu Wed Mar 14 09:41:14 2007 From: archives at uww.edu (UW-W Archives) Date: Wed Mar 14 09:45:32 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Research fees/Obituary Requests/Photograph copies References: Message-ID:

The first two hours of research are free. After that we charge the amount per hour of the person who does the work, students or staff. We do not handle multiple obituaries differently. We charge $0.10 per page copied plus postage or $0.10 per page scanned and emailed.

UW-Whitewater Archives / Area Research Center 800 West Main Street P.O. Box 900 Whitewater, WI 53190-0900 (262) 472-5520 http://library.uww.edu/COLLECTN/archicol.htm Normal Semester hours: Monday-Friday 9 AM-5 PM Exceptions: Mar. 23, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30--9AM to 4:30PM Apr. 6--9AM to 4:30PM May 18, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25--9AM to 4:30PM

______From: [email protected] on behalf of Kristie Boucher Sent: Thu 3/8/2007 1:15 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: RE: [Genealib] Research fees/Obituary Requests/Photograph copies

We do not charge for obituary requests or copies, when patrons email or write in requests, we write back that we accept donations, but do not charge for these services. We are a county public library system (with 5 libraries) in Arkansas.

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From: Niki Stallings [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wed 3/7/2007 3:40 PM To: 'Librarians Serving Genealogists' Subject: [Genealib] Research fees/Obituary Requests/Photograph copies

We are revamping out policy on Research Fees. Can some of you please share with me your policies procedures on your research fees, multiple obituary requests, and requests for copies (emailed) of photographs?

Thanks in advance!

Niki Stallings

Head of Technical Services

Henderson County Public Library

101 South Main Street

Henderson, Kentucky 42420

Miranda Van Horn Reference Librarian ______

Cherry Hill Public Library 1100 Kings Hwy Cherry Hill, NJ 08034 Work: (856) 667-0300 Fax: (856) 903-1219 www.chplnj.org TownshipLogo

Cherry Hill Township provides a secure environment for all information concerning our residents and all other business concerns. The information contained in this email is intended only for Librarians Serving Genealogists and may contain privileged and/or confidential information that is exempt from disclosure under applicable law. View our privacy policy here .

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Explore the seven wonders of the world Learn more! From ge_librarian at mcpl.lib.mo.us Wed Mar 14 11:24:43 2007 From: ge_librarian at mcpl.lib.mo.us (Janice Schultz) Date: Wed Mar 14 11:25:34 2007 Subject: [Genealib] free books Message-ID: <45F7CD6B.4856.3F9F6A@localhost>

The following books are free to the first respondent(s).

Animal Marks & Brands, Worth County, Missouri 1862-1907 (7 pages)

Sachem, 1943 (Southwest High School, Kansas City, MO)

Parkville (MO) Flood of 1993

Beason Family Genealogy by Arline Beason-Peckham and Charles Wesley Peckham Sr.

Conqueror, 1959 (Kansas City Youth for Christ)

The Cresset, 1939 (two copies) and 1940 (Chillicothe Public Schools, MO)

The Dux, 1941 (Chillicothe Business College, MO)

Janice Schultz, Genealogy Librarian Mid-Continent Public Library [email protected] -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/ge Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal.

From ge_librarian at mcpl.lib.mo.us Wed Mar 14 13:16:28 2007 From: ge_librarian at mcpl.lib.mo.us (Janice Schultz) Date: Wed Mar 14 13:17:21 2007 Subject: [Genealib] re free books Message-ID: <45F7E79C.9714.A5F28B@localhost>

All of the books have been taken except one copy of the Cresset for 1939 (Chillicothe MO)

Janice Schultz, Genealogy Librarian Mid-Continent Public Library [email protected] -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/ge Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal.

From lmorales at alexandria.lib.va.us Wed Mar 14 19:58:48 2007 From: lmorales at alexandria.lib.va.us (Leslie Morales) Date: Wed Mar 14 18:57:21 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Virginia slave births Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Virginia Slave Births Index, 1853-1865, Volume 1, A-C Alexandria Library, Local History/Special Collections Leslie Anderson Morales, Editor Ada Valaitis, Assistant Editor ISBN 978-0-7884-4232-5 $48.00 plus shipping/handling Available from Heritage Books at www.HeritageBooks.com

In 1853, the Commonwealth of Virginia began an annual registration of births and deaths. The Birth Index of Slaves, 1853-1865 was later transcribed by the Works Project Administration (WPA) and recorded on microfilm. While the information -- name of slave owner, infant's name, mother's name, birth date, place of birth -- is of immense value to genealogists, working with the microfilm can be problematic. Hence the creation of this multi-volume reference work, Virginia Slave Births Index, 1853-1865.

In 2003, staff and volunteers with Local History/Special Collections, Alexandria Library began to transcribe the WPA microfilm, enter data into spreadsheets, and sort the information by slave owner's surname and given name. Entries include single births, multiple births, and stillbirths. Occasionally, both parents of an enslaved infant are identified. In rare instances, the name of a freeborn infant appears. Independent city and couty names are spelled out. Data not reported in the microfilm is denoted by "----." Illegible text in the microfilm is denoted by "####." This index includes more than 130,000 entries.

Leslie Anderson Morales Reference Librarian Local History/Special Collections Alexandria Library 717 Queen Street Alexandria, VA 22314-2420 (703) 838-4577 x213 http://www.alexandria.lib.va.us/branches/lhsc.html ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070314/2764e020/ attachment.html From laura at lauraprescott.com Thu Mar 15 07:29:43 2007 From: laura at lauraprescott.com (Laura Prescott) Date: Thu Mar 15 07:29:49 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Librarian's Day at NERGC on April 25 Message-ID:

The New England Regional Genealogical Conference takes place in Hartford, Connecticut, on April 26-29. NERGC 2007 is pleased to offer a special pre-conference program for librarians on Wednesday, April 25, at the Hartford Marriott Downtown.

Librarians, as well as docents, volunteers, genealogical and historical society leaders, and other friends of the library, are invited to attend this all-day program to enhance their knowledge of genealogical resources and applications. If you work with family history patrons or genealogy-related research materials, you'll benefit from this special event. The cost is $35 per person and includes lunch compliments of ProQuest CSA , whose genealogy products include HeritageQuest Online, Ancestry Library Edition, ProQuest Obituaries, Digital Sanborn Maps, and more.

Topics include ?Building a Core Genealogy Collection for Your Library? with Craig R. Scott, CG; ?Posting and Hosting Digital Content Online,? with Beau Sharbrough; and ?A Sampling of Connecticut Repositories? with Judith Ellen Johnson of the Connecticut Historical Society Museum and Richard C. Roberts of the Connecticut State Library. William Forsyth, PMP, Director of Product Management at ProQuest CSA, will update everyone on ProQuest?s offerings during the luncheon program.

For more information about Librarian's Day, including a link to the registration form, please visit http://nergc.org/2007/librariansday.htm. If you have questions, contact Librarian's Day chair Laura Prescott at [email protected].

We're hoping to see many of you in Hartford next month!

Laura

-- Laura G. Prescott Brookline, NH www.LauraPrescott.com

From WuehlerAC at ldschurch.org Thu Mar 15 10:25:46 2007 From: WuehlerAC at ldschurch.org (Anne Wuehler) Date: Thu Mar 15 10:26:26 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Re: 2008 SL Institute Proposed List In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Hello,

Some of you have asked for the proposed list of classes. Remember that the list is not set in stone. I've received a few additional suggestions and I'll be glad to read yours.

Classes:Reference interview, tips and strategiesGenealogy classes and self-help aidsEnticing youth and kids into genealogyThe Family History Library's role in genealogyThe Novice approach in the Family History LibraryCollection managementGenealogical Society of Utah scanning projectsArchives and academic library collectionsPublic library collectionsSpecial library collectionsEvaluating genealogy Web sitesOnline catalogs and lending librariesWeb sites: grass-roots indexing projects, mailing lists, bulletin boards, blogsProfessional development opportunties Genealogy advocate in library associationsWeb sites: online courses for librarians and patronsOur role in family history conferences and fairsSharing your library programs and resourcesHumor in genealogyQ&A, sharing tips from own library>>> "Anne Wuehler" 3/8/2007 3:54 PM >>>

Hello everyone,

Each year in January, the Utah Genealogical Society hosts the Salt Lake Institute of Genealogy. A week-long course consists of 20 classes. In 2008, they are offering a Librarian course. I'm the coordinator of this course and I'm in the preliminary stage of recommending topics and teachers for 20 classes. If you have suggestions for topics or teachers, please email me off line at [email protected].

Thanks. Anne NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.

------NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070315/75be91d7/ attachment.html From demarestd at ecgrl.org Fri Mar 16 09:26:54 2007 From: demarestd at ecgrl.org (Dorothy Demarest) Date: Fri Mar 16 09:23:41 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Early Physicians Index? Message-ID: <[email protected]>

I seem to recall an index or something that listed early physicians. Perhaps this was just for Georgia, but I just don't remember. I had patron request information about her ancestor who was a physician in Augusta, GA, and he died in 1830. I'd like to be able to point her to a resource. Does it ring any bells with anyone?

Sincerely,

Dottie Demarest

East Central Georgia Regional Library [email protected] 902 Greene Street

Augusta, GA 30901

706 821-2600 Fax 706 821-2629

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The American Medical Association published _Directory of Deceased American Physicians, 1804-1929_; "a genealogical guide to over 149,000 medical practitioners providing brief biological sketches drawn from the American Medical Associatin's Deceased Physician Masterfile," 2 volumes (Chicago: AMA, 1993).

We have a copy of it if you'd like me to check something.

Donald L. Wilson, Virginiana Librarian, Ruth E. Lloyd Information Center for Genealogy and Local History (RELIC), Prince William Public Library System, Bull Run Regional Library, 8051 Ashton Avenue, Manassas, VA 20109-2892. 703-792-4540. www.pwcgov.org/library/relic

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dorothy Demarest Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 9:27 AM To: 'Librarians Serving Genealogists' Subject: [Genealib] Early Physicians Index?

I seem to recall an index or something that listed early physicians. Perhaps this was just for Georgia, but I just don't remember. I had patron request information about her ancestor who was a physician in Augusta, GA, and he died in 1830. I'd like to be able to point her to a resource. Does it ring any bells with anyone?

Sincerely,

Dottie Demarest

East Central Georgia Regional Library [email protected]

902 Greene Street

Augusta, GA 30901

706 821-2600 Fax 706 821-2629

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In our Savannah library, we have a copy of Ray Rowland's book Some Medical Professionals in Augusta, Georgia, 1736-1941: a name index of physicians, nurses, dentists druggists and others (published by R. R. Books, North Augusta, SC 2006)

Honey Ryan

Reference Librarian

Georgia History & Genealogy

Live Oak Public Libraries

Savannah, GA 31401

912-652-3697 [email protected]

______From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dorothy Demarest Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 9:27 AM To: 'Librarians Serving Genealogists' Subject: [Genealib] Early Physicians Index?

I seem to recall an index or something that listed early physicians. Perhaps this was just for Georgia, but I just don't remember. I had patron request information about her ancestor who was a physician in Augusta, GA, and he died in 1830. I'd like to be able to point her to a resource. Does it ring any bells with anyone?

Sincerely,

Dottie Demarest

East Central Georgia Regional Library [email protected]

902 Greene Street

Augusta, GA 30901

706 821-2600 Fax 706 821-2629

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Also the National Genealogical Society has a searchable database on their website, accessed through the "members-only" section. Their description: "NGS has a collection of cards originally created by the American Medical Association. They provide information for physicians who died between 1906 and 1964."

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If you are in or around Michigan at the end of the month, this free seminar may be of interest.

"Learning More at the Library of Michigan," an annual free genealogy seminar, returns Saturday, March 31 with new and updated programs for genealogists with a wide range of interests and experience levels who want to become more adept at family history research using the Internet.

"We continue to develop new genealogy programs to serve both beginning and experienced genealogists, and to keep up with advances in Internet-based research," said Randy Riley, Special Collections Manager at the Library of Michigan. "In doing so, we hope to empower our patrons to maximize our extensive collection, as well as trusted Web resources, for their family history research."

Home to one of the top 10 genealogy collections in the United States, the Library of Michigan also offers electronic resources that make genealogical records and rare research materials more accessible. "Learning More at the Library of Michigan" will focus entirely on Internet research and effective use of these online resources. The free, half-day workshop runs from 1 to 4:30 p.m. at the Michigan Library and Historical Center, 702 W. Kalamazoo St., in downtown Lansing. Free weekend parking is available at the library's parking lot off Kalamazoo Street.

Seating is limited, so registration is recommended. Sign up online at www.michigan.gov/familyhistory, by e-mail at [email protected] or by phone at (517) 373-1300. Participants will choose one class for each time slot. Upon arrival at the seminar, attendees will receive a schedule with room assignments. For more information, please contact the Library of Michigan's Special Collections Services at (517) 373-1300.

Sessions include:

1 to 2 p.m.

Using the Library of Michigan Web Site: Find out more about the resources available on the Library of Michigan Web site and how you can use them at home to make the best use of your research time when visiting the library.

Online Research with U.S. Census Records: Discover how to make full use of digitized census records and indexes on the genealogy databases Ancestry Library Edition and HeritageQuest.

2:15 to 3:15 p.m.

Online Tools for Finding Cemetery Sources: Learn how to utilize the Michigan Cemetery Sources database, www.michigan.gov/cemeteries, to locate cemeteries, identify useful print transcriptions and locate online burial lists.

Vital Records Research on the Internet: Find out which states and counties are putting indexes to birth, marriage and death records online and pick up tips to improve your searches.

3:30 to 4:30 p.m.

Michigan Genealogy Research on the Internet: Examine the latest resources and research strategies for Michigan family history researchers interested in more effectively using the Internet.

Online Military Records Research: Explore the wealth of military information available online and learn search strategies to maximize your research time.

If you have any additional questions about the seminar, please feel free to contact me off list. Thank you.

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Thank you to everyone who responded. These are good resources to know for the future. I'm just not going to be able to provide much detail about his life, I think.

Sincerely,

Dottie Demarest

East Central Georgia Regional Library [email protected]

902 Greene Street

Augusta, GA 30901 706 821-2600 Fax 706 821-2629

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The following books are free to first respondent:

Missouri Genealogical Records & Abstracts, volume 1, by Sherida Eddlemon

Missouri Land Claims: with a new index by Patricia Chadwell

Andrew County, Missouri Marriage REcords 1841-1856 and Early Settlers by Nadine Hodges

Missouri Miscellany, volume 3, by Mrs. Howard Woodruff

Janice Schultz, Genealogy Librarian Mid-Continent Public Library [email protected] -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/ge Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal.

From bvelke at archivecdbooksusa.com Fri Mar 16 12:18:34 2007 From: bvelke at archivecdbooksusa.com (Bob Velke) Date: Fri Mar 16 12:18:55 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Free to a good home: History of Salem, Massachusetts Message-ID: <[email protected]>

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I would like this... Lydia Lott--Genealogy department Satilla Regional Library 200 S. Madison Ave. Douglas, Georgia 31533

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Janice Schultz Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 11:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] free books

The following books are free to first respondent:

Missouri Genealogical Records & Abstracts, volume 1, by Sherida Eddlemon

Missouri Land Claims: with a new index by Patricia Chadwell

Andrew County, Missouri Marriage REcords 1841-1856 and Early Settlers by Nadine Hodges

Missouri Miscellany, volume 3, by Mrs. Howard Woodruff

Janice Schultz, Genealogy Librarian Mid-Continent Public Library [email protected] -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/ge Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal.

______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib

From bvelke at archivecdbooksusa.com Fri Mar 16 12:34:38 2007 From: bvelke at archivecdbooksusa.com (Bob Velke) Date: Fri Mar 16 12:34:51 2007 Subject: [Genealib] TAKEN: History of Salem, Massachusetts Message-ID: <[email protected]>

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No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/723 - Release Date: 3/15/2007 11:27 AM From ge_librarian at mcpl.lib.mo.us Fri Mar 16 12:38:43 2007 From: ge_librarian at mcpl.lib.mo.us (Janice Schultz) Date: Fri Mar 16 12:39:34 2007 Subject: [Genealib] more free books Message-ID: <45FA81C3.4237.920365@localhost> The following are free to the first respondent(s):

Death Records of Pioneer Missouri Women, 1808-1853

Missouri Land Claims, with a new index by Patricia Chadwell

Missouri Heritage by Lew Larkin

Missouri Genealogical Gleanings, volume 4 by Sherida Eddlemon (2 copies)

Missouri Genealogical Gleanings, volume 3 by Sherida Eddlemon

Missouri Genealogical Records & Abstracts, volume 1 by Sherida Eddlemon

St. Joseph State Hospital Number 2, Buchanan County, Missouri: Extracted from the 1900 Census of Buchanan County, Missouri

Buchanan County Missouri Abstracts of Wills and Administrations From Books "A" and "B" 1839-1857

Gone to Missouri: From Whence They Came - To Where & When (3 copies)

United States Land Sales In Missouri: Springfield Land Office Abstracts 1835-1846 (2 copies)

Book of Obituaries - Missouri - Book 2 compiled by Lucretia L. St. John

We Remember: A Biographical Project of the Civil War Round Table of Kansas City

Missouri Miscellany, volume VII by Mrs. Howard Woodruff

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness: Nodaway County, Missouri: A Black History, 1840-1940

Janice Schultz, Genealogy Librarian Mid-Continent Public Library [email protected] -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/ge Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal.

From ge_librarian at mcpl.lib.mo.us Fri Mar 16 14:20:47 2007 From: ge_librarian at mcpl.lib.mo.us (Janice Schultz) Date: Fri Mar 16 14:21:37 2007 Subject: [Genealib] free books taken Message-ID: <45FA99AF.19321.EF7593@localhost>

All of the free books offered have been taken.

Janice Janice Schultz, Genealogy Librarian Mid-Continent Public Library [email protected] -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/ge Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal.

From abrisee at yahoo.com Fri Mar 16 16:17:33 2007 From: abrisee at yahoo.com (adrian brisee) Date: Fri Mar 16 16:17:35 2007 Subject: [Genealib] RE: Directory of Deceased American Physicians 1804-1929 Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Family Tree Maker CD #507: Directory of Deceased American Physicians 1804-1929, The biographical information included on this Family Archive was extracted from the two-volume set titled Directory of Deceased American Physicians edited by Arthur W. Hafner and produced from a card file held by the American Medical Assocition. Fully indexed and searchable by key word, you'll generally find the following information about one of the 149,000 medical practitioners included here: Full name and date and place of birth; date, place, and cause of death; type, places, and dates of practice as well as specialties; Medical school(s) attended, professorship, or other education (if any); States and years of licenses and hospital affiliations; Where to find death notice information in the Journal of the American Medical Association; Licensure action (if any).

You might also want to direct the researcher to The American Medical Directory, which was published every few years since 1906. Great information not only on doctors but on hospitals and medical schools.

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Last week's message about "Priscilla's Homecoming" included a typo. The correct URL is www.AfricanaHeritage.com -- not www.AfricanHeritage.com

LAM

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There is at least one case of "an unbroken paper trail" from Africa to Charleston, South Carolina.

Thomalind Martin Polite is a direct descendant of a 10 year old girl who was kidnapped from Africa in 1756, placed aboard the slave ship Hare in Sierra Leone, and sold in the Charleston market to rice planter Elias Ball. This series of events was brought to light by Edward Ball, author of Slaves in the Family, and anthropologist Joseph Opala, who has spent more than thirty years researching the Gullah/Sierra Leone connection.

In May 2005, Mrs. Polite and her husband traveled to Sierra Leone at the invitation of President Kabbah. (In the interest of disclosure: I traveled with the Polites and a selected group of scholars, writers, and community activists). To learn more, visit Yale University's "Priscilla's Homecoming" website at www.yale.edu/glc/priscilla. Documents and images tell the full story of Priscilla's capture, the voyage to Charleston on a slave ship that originated in Rhode Island, and her purchase by Elias Ball. To view a travelogue and photo diary, visit www.AfricanaHeritage.com and click on "Priscilla's Homecoming."

The events leading up to and including the Homecoming have also been described in magazines -- "Building a Bridge to Africa," American Legacy (Winter 2007) and "Long Journey Home." Charleston Magazine (February 2005) -- and serialized in newspapers by Herb Frazier (Charleston Post and Courier) and Paul Davis (Providence Journal).

Leslie Anderson Morales Reference Librarian Local History/Special Collections Alexandria Library 717 Queen Street Alexandria, VA 22314 (703) 838-4577 x213 http://www.alexandria.lib.va.us/branches/lhsc.html

Henry Wiencek wrote:

>Through searching plantation and court records it is possible to identify >the ancestor who was brought from Africa, though I am not aware of any >examples. I wouldn't be surprised if someone has done it. Ed Ball and the >people working with him may have done this. Newly arrived young slaves were >taken into court to have their ages established for tax purposes, and their >names were recorded. > >Henry Wiencek > > > > >

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>From the March 15 press release at http://myfamily.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=88 (I've only copied the first and last paragraphs.) Ancestry.com, the world's largest online resource for family history, today announced that it has digitized and indexed all readily available Iowa State census records from 1836 to 1925. Researchers spent more than two years manually entering each name from actual early handwritten documents, bringing nearly a century of Iowa State history to life at the click of a mouse. In total, the collection features more than 14 million Iowa State census records and more than 3 million images, making Ancestry.com the first and only online source to provide access to all publicly released Iowa State census records.

Free access to the Iowa State census records collection will be available on Ancestry.com through the end of March.

______Sarah A. V. Kirby Corporate Librarian [email protected] (847) 685-9284 (267) 295-7384 (fax)

We've Changed Our Name.

We are pleased to announce that we've changed our name to Boelter Associates, Inc., our original company name of twenty years ago. With our name change, we are able to formally recognize Fred Boelter's work and standing in the professional services marketplace, and our fifty plus associates who have been strong partners and contributors to our success.

Please note that our email and website address have been updated to reflect this change. You can now visit us at http://www.boelterassociates.com

From genehunter at verizon.net Fri Mar 16 17:25:06 2007 From: genehunter at verizon.net (Genehunter) Date: Fri Mar 16 17:25:18 2007 Subject: [Genealib] RE: Directory of Deceased American Physicians 1804-1929 In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <000801c76811$91d533f0$2d01a8c0@homebase>

I'm sorry, but I have found so many errors in FamilyTreeMaker CDs, I would not recommend them to anyone without cautioning that they provide clues, not facts.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of adrian brisee Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 4:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] RE: Directory of Deceased American Physicians 1804-1929

Family Tree Maker CD #507: Directory of Deceased American Physicians 1804-1929, The biographical information included on this Family Archive was extracted from the two-volume set titled Directory of Deceased American Physicians edited by Arthur W. Hafner and produced from a card file held by the American Medical Assocition. Fully indexed and searchable by key word, you'll generally find the following information about one of the 149,000 medical practitioners included here: Full name and date and place of birth; date, place, and cause of death; type, places, and dates of practice as well as specialties; Medical school(s) attended, professorship, or other education (if any); States and years of licenses and hospital affiliations; Where to find death notice information in the Journal of the American Medical Association; Licensure action (if any).

You might also want to direct the researcher to The American Medical Directory, which was published every few years since 1906. Great information not only on doctors but on hospitals and medical schools.

Adrian Brisee

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Can you look up a Dr. Barr who practiced in Oconto, Wisconsin ca 1895 - 1910? If you can, I certainly would appreciate it. I don't have a first name since he was mentioned in A History of Oconto by J. Hall.

Ellen Barr [email protected]

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wilson, Donald L Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 8:32 AM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: RE: [Genealib] Early Physicians Index?

The American Medical Association published _Directory of Deceased American Physicians, 1804-1929_; "a genealogical guide to over 149,000 medical practitioners providing brief biological sketches drawn from the American Medical Associatin's Deceased Physician Masterfile," 2 volumes (Chicago: AMA, 1993).

We have a copy of it if you'd like me to check something.

Donald L. Wilson, Virginiana Librarian, Ruth E. Lloyd Information Center for Genealogy and Local History (RELIC), Prince William Public Library System, Bull Run Regional Library, 8051 Ashton Avenue, Manassas, VA 20109-2892. 703-792-4540. www.pwcgov.org/library/relic

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dorothy Demarest Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 9:27 AM To: 'Librarians Serving Genealogists' Subject: [Genealib] Early Physicians Index?

I seem to recall an index or something that listed early physicians. Perhaps this was just for Georgia, but I just don't remember. I had patron request information about her ancestor who was a physician in Augusta, GA, and he died in 1830. I'd like to be able to point her to a resource. Does it ring any bells with anyone?

Sincerely,

Dottie Demarest

East Central Georgia Regional Library [email protected]

902 Greene Street

Augusta, GA 30901

706 821-2600 Fax 706 821-2629

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Joy

Joy Rich Chapter Representative, New York Metro Chapter Association of Professional Genealogists http://www.apgen.org http://www.apgen.org/chapters/newyork/index.html

----- Original Message ----- From: Worldwide Support To: Family History Center Directors in English Language Areas Date: March 16, 2007 Discontinued Access to Ancestry.com Databases

For many years, Ancestry.com has provided free access to patrons of family history centers around the world. Ancestry has informed the Church that as of April 1, 2007, it will discontinue this free access to the full Ancestry.com service.

Free access through Ancestry.com to the following databases will continue:

1. Index and images for the 1880, 1900 and 1920 U.S. censuses 2. Full name indices for the British 1841-1891 censuses (England and Wales) 3. World War I draft cards indices as created and miscellaneous other databases

Free access is likely to be discontinued for the remainder of the Ancestry.com databases including:

1. Index and images for the 1930 U.S. census 2. Index and images for the 1901 British census (England, Scotland, and Wales)

At this point, Ancestry.com is not offering an option for family history centers to independently purchase commercial or library site licenses. Patrons, of course, may choose to subscribe directly to Ancestry.com.

Free access to online databases is important and we therefore intend to add many new databases to FamilySearch.org (the website of the Mormon Family History Library). Much of the data preparation will be accomplished through the online indexing program available at FamilySearchIndexing.org. We encourage you to visit the website to learn more.

Volunteers have already begun indexing the 1900 U.S. census and other projects. Other censuses and vital record collections will be indexed as soon as the 1900 U.S. census project is completed. The more volunteers that participate, the sooner access can be provided. Since access to databases on FamilySearch.org is free to all, we anticipate that this will be of great interest to individuals around the world. We are also exploring opportunities to provide broader access to additional databases from other online service providers.

Please inform patrons regarding our plans to provide access to records and invite them to help by participating in the FamilySearch Indexing projects. We will communicate as more information becomes available. Thank you for all that you do on behalf of our patrons. [email protected]

From abrisee at yahoo.com Sat Mar 17 13:32:44 2007 From: abrisee at yahoo.com (adrian brisee) Date: Sat Mar 17 13:32:46 2007 Subject: [Genealib] FTM cd's Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Unfortunately statements like:

"From: "Genehunter" Subject: RE: [Genealib] RE: Directory of Deceased American Physicians 1804-1929 To: "'Librarians Serving Genealogists'" Message-ID: <000801c76811$91d533f0$2d01a8c0@homebase> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I'm sorry, but I have found so many errors in FamilyTreeMaker CDs, I would not recommend them to anyone without cautioning that they provide clues, not facts."

as so misleading. The FTM cd's of compilation of submitted trees are rife with errors, just like the gedcoms on rootsweb, etc. The FTM cd's that are scans of actual books, which are the majority of FTM cd's are as accurate as the source material used. Saying you trust FamilyTreemaker CDs is just like saying you don't trust any books because you found errors in some books. FTM's cd of Savages Genealogical Dictionary of New England is as trustworthy as the set of books, because it is the set of books in digital format.

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This was posted on today's Genealogy Blog at http://genealogyblog.com/ancestrycom/another-side-of-the-ancestrycom-removal-from- the-family-history-centers-5877 .

Joy Joy Rich Chapter Representative, New York Metro Chapter Association of Professional Genealogists http://www.apgen.org http://www.apgen.org/chapters/newyork/index.html

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Another Side of the Ancestry.com Removal From the Family History Centers

> EMail This Post < | by Leland Meitzler | > permalink | 3/17/2007 |

Yesterday I posted the announcement about the removal of "free" Ancestry.com from the Family History Centers. I've now received a copy of communication written by The Generations Network CEO Tim Sullivan, to Ancestry employees. Keep in mind that there are two sides to every issue - so I think it's fair to make this post.

Although I personally don't profit in the slightest from the success of Ancestry.com, I am big supporter of what they do for the genealogical community. I believe that although their product isn't inexpensive, it's a tremendous value for any genealogist. Their continual addition of new digital data (case in point - The Iowa State Censuses!) - as well as indexes makes a real difference to genealogists. That said, you can see that I'm probably a tiny bit prejudice. I know that sometimes coming to agreements that work for all parties is hard - if not impossible.

Mr. Sullivan's letter follows:

From: Tim Sullivan Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:38 PM To: FYI ALL Subject: Update

I also wanted to share a few thoughts with all of you on another topic. For the last seven years, our company has provided free access to Ancestry.com inside the family history centers of the LDS Church. During this time, we've done this without any formal agreement or compensation. Several months ago, we informed the Church of our desire to craft a formal relationship that would allow us to continue providing this free access. This is similar to the way that we license Ancestry.com to over 1400 public libraries in the U.S. and U.K. We do this for a license fee which lets patrons of these institutions use our service for free inside their facilities. As you can imagine, this is a very popular program among libraries.

Unfortunately, we were not able to come to agreement with the Church on the terms of this proposed relationship. We are disappointed by this, as we know that patrons of family history centers value Ancestry.com, and we think our institutional licensing program is priced very fairly. We remain willing and eager to have Ancestry.com available in family history centers, and we are even hopeful that at some point the Church will reconsider their position and decide to give patrons of their family history centers access to the world's greatest online resource for family history research.

We will continue to provide access in family history centers to a small number of databases which are covered by other agreements, and none of our other many agreements with the Church are impacted by this change. We continue to have a number of mutually beneficial agreements and relationships with the Church, and as two large players in the family history space, we share a common goal of getting as many people as we can interested in their family history. Our relationship is a good one, and we are always looking for ways to cooperate with the Church in order to grow our business and ignite more interest in the category. I'm sharing all of this with all of you because I am sure that there will be some unhappy patrons of family history centers, and I wanted everyone to understand that this was not a one-way decision on our part.

Finally, I am constantly asked whether we think of the Church as a competitor. The answer to this really depends on the underlying assumptions of the question. Are we competing for dollars? No. Do we have exactly the same goals? No. Are we unfriendly? Absolutely not. Is TGN committed to making sure that Ancestry.com remains the #1 resource for online family history? Absolutely. Is Ancestry going to continue to be the home of the world's largest online family tree? Yup. Should we be able to innovate faster than anyone on the planet in this space? Of course. Are we two large players that each have done tremendous things to help people understand their family history? Yes. Can we continue to cooperate with the Church to get millions more people interested in family history? We can, and we will.

I think we have a pretty good game plan for continuing to grow a truly great company.

Thanks,

Tim

From kstanley at flash.net Sat Mar 17 19:34:20 2007 From: kstanley at flash.net (Karen Stanley) Date: Sat Mar 17 19:34:23 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Discontinued Access to Ancestry.com Databases - Follow-up In-Reply-To: <00fe01c768e4$44405f10$6401a8c0@DELL> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Joy, thank you for sharing both sides of the story. I am particularly bemused by the FHL's decision to respond to this situation by directing their volunteer indexers to focus attention on producing yet another census index. Why? So that "free" access to indexes will be ensured.

There is no such thing as a free index. Even if the indexers are volunteers, there are costs to coordinating an indexing project, and there are also opportunity costs in duplicating work already done by somebody else. Every hour spent by a volunteer on indexing a given source is an hour that could have been spent on a different project. Only a fraction of the records in the FHL have been indexed, and if volunteers are directed to needless census indexing, a wealth of immigration, probate, and vital records will remain indexless for several years longer.

Today's genealogists now have access to multiple census indexes and census images which are readily available either free through public libraries or at a reasonable cost through private subscription. The only major gap remaining in census indexing is to transcribe and scan the handwritten Soundex cards, which remain an important alternative where illegible census microfilm led to inaccurate indexing.

Regards, Karen Stanley Houston, TX

Joy Rich wrote: This was posted on today's Genealogy Blog at http://genealogyblog.com/ancestrycom/another-side-of-the-ancestrycom-removal-from- the-family-history-centers-5877 .

Joy

Joy Rich Chapter Representative, New York Metro Chapter Association of Professional Genealogists http://www.apgen.org http://www.apgen.org/chapters/newyork/index.html

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Another Side of the Ancestry.com Removal From the Family History Centers

> EMail This Post < | by Leland Meitzler | > permalink | 3/17/2007 |

Yesterday I posted the announcement about the removal of "free" Ancestry.com from the Family History Centers. I've now received a copy of communication written by The Generations Network CEO Tim Sullivan, to Ancestry employees. Keep in mind that there are two sides to every issue - so I think it's fair to make this post.

Although I personally don't profit in the slightest from the success of Ancestry.com, I am big supporter of what they do for the genealogical community. I believe that although their product isn't inexpensive, it's a tremendous value for any genealogist. Their continual addition of new digital data (case in point - The Iowa State Censuses!) - as well as indexes makes a real difference to genealogists. That said, you can see that I'm probably a tiny bit prejudice. I know that sometimes coming to agreements that work for all parties is hard - if not impossible.

Mr. Sullivan's letter follows:

From: Tim Sullivan Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:38 PM To: FYI ALL Subject: Update

I also wanted to share a few thoughts with all of you on another topic. For the last seven years, our company has provided free access to Ancestry.com inside the family history centers of the LDS Church. During this time, we've done this without any formal agreement or compensation. Several months ago, we informed the Church of our desire to craft a formal relationship that would allow us to continue providing this free access. This is similar to the way that we license Ancestry.com to over 1400 public libraries in the U.S. and U.K. We do this for a license fee which lets patrons of these institutions use our service for free inside their facilities. As you can imagine, this is a very popular program among libraries.

Unfortunately, we were not able to come to agreement with the Church on the terms of this proposed relationship. We are disappointed by this, as we know that patrons of family history centers value Ancestry.com, and we think our institutional licensing program is priced very fairly. We remain willing and eager to have Ancestry.com available in family history centers, and we are even hopeful that at some point the Church will reconsider their position and decide to give patrons of their family history centers access to the world's greatest online resource for family history research.

We will continue to provide access in family history centers to a small number of databases which are covered by other agreements, and none of our other many agreements with the Church are impacted by this change. We continue to have a number of mutually beneficial agreements and relationships with the Church, and as two large players in the family history space, we share a common goal of getting as many people as we can interested in their family history. Our relationship is a good one, and we are always looking for ways to cooperate with the Church in order to grow our business and ignite more interest in the category. I'm sharing all of this with all of you because I am sure that there will be some unhappy patrons of family history centers, and I wanted everyone to understand that this was not a one-way decision on our part.

Finally, I am constantly asked whether we think of the Church as a competitor. The answer to this really depends on the underlying assumptions of the question. Are we competing for dollars? No. Do we have exactly the same goals? No. Are we unfriendly? Absolutely not. Is TGN committed to making sure that Ancestry.com remains the #1 resource for online family history? Absolutely. Is Ancestry going to continue to be the home of the world's largest online family tree? Yup. Should we be able to innovate faster than anyone on the planet in this space? Of course. Are we two large players that each have done tremendous things to help people understand their family history? Yes. Can we continue to cooperate with the Church to get millions more people interested in family history? We can, and we will.

I think we have a pretty good game plan for continuing to grow a truly great company.

Thanks,

Tim

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Just wanted to send a global THANK YOU to everyone that responded to my inquiry. My paper is due Wednesday and I have most of the information I need. I definitely appreciate your time and assistance and hope I can pass the help on to someone else some day.

Lila From LMeehan at EPL.CA Mon Mar 19 13:16:44 2007 From: LMeehan at EPL.CA (Lyn Meehan) Date: Mon Mar 19 13:20:57 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Discontinued Access to Ancestry.com Databases -Follow-up References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Has anyone read anything in defense of The Church? Have they posted a comment?

Please Read Dick Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter

"Ancestry.com Terminates Free Access to Family History Centers" http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2007/03/ancestrycom_ter.html

Thanks,

Lyn Meehan Information Service Division Edmonton Public Library

______

From: [email protected] on behalf of Karen Stanley Sent: Sat 3/17/2007 5:34 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: Re: [Genealib] Discontinued Access to Ancestry.com Databases -Follow-up

Joy, thank you for sharing both sides of the story. I am particularly bemused by the FHL's decision to respond to this situation by directing their volunteer indexers to focus attention on producing yet another census index. Why? So that "free" access to indexes will be ensured.

There is no such thing as a free index. Even if the indexers are volunteers, there are costs to coordinating an indexing project, and there are also opportunity costs in duplicating work already done by somebody else. Every hour spent by a volunteer on indexing a given source is an hour that could have been spent on a different project. Only a fraction of the records in the FHL have been indexed, and if volunteers are directed to needless census indexing, a wealth of immigration, probate, and vital records will remain indexless for several years longer.

Today's genealogists now have access to multiple census indexes and census images which are readily available either free through public libraries or at a reasonable cost through private subscription. The only major gap remaining in census indexing is to transcribe and scan the handwritten Soundex cards, which remain an important alternative where illegible census microfilm led to inaccurate indexing.

Regards, Karen Stanley Houston, TX

Joy Rich wrote:

This was posted on today's Genealogy Blog at http://genealogyblog.com/ancestrycom/another-side-of-the-ancestrycom-removal- from-the-family-history-centers-5877 .

Joy

Joy Rich Chapter Representative, New York Metro Chapter Association of Professional Genealogists http://www.apgen.org http://www.apgen.org/chapters/newyork/index.html

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Another Side of the Ancestry.com Removal From the Family History Centers

> EMail This Post < | by Leland Meitzler | > permalink | 3/17/2007 |

Yesterday I posted the announcement about the removal of "free" Ancestry.com from the Family History Centers. I've now received a copy of communication written by The Generations Network CEO Tim Sullivan, to Ancestry employees. Keep in mind that there are two sides to every issue - so I think it's fair to make this post.

Although I personally don't profit in the slightest from the success of Ancestry.com, I am big supporter of what they do for the genealogical community. I believe that although their product isn't inexpensive, it's a tremendous value for any genealogist. Their continual addition of new digital data (case in point - The Iowa State Censuses!) - as well as indexes makes a real difference to genealogists. That said, you can see that I'm probably a tiny bit prejudice. I know that sometimes coming to agreements that work for all parties is hard - if not impossible.

Mr. Sullivan's letter follows:

From: Tim Sullivan Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:38 PM To: FYI ALL Subject: Update

I also wanted to share a few thoughts with all of you on another topic. For the last seven years, our company has provided free access to Ancestry.com inside the family history centers of the LDS Church. During this time, we've done this without any formal agreement or compensation. Several months ago, we informed the Church of our desire to craft a formal relationship that would allow us to continue providing this free access. This is similar to the way that we license Ancestry.com to over 1400 public libraries in the U.S. and U.K. We do this for a license fee which lets patrons of these institutions use our service for free inside their facilities. As you can imagine, this is a very popular program among libraries.

Unfortunately, we were not able to come to agreement with the Church on the terms of this proposed relationship. We are disappointed by this, as we know that patrons of family history centers value Ancestry.com, and we think our institutional licensing program is priced very fairly. We remain willing and eager to have Ancestry.com available in family history centers, and we are even hopeful that at some point the Church will reconsider their position and decide to give patrons of their family history centers access to the world's greatest online resource for family history research.

We will continue to provide access in family history centers to a small number of databases which are covered by other agreements, and none of our other many agreements with the Church are impacted by this change. We continue to have a number of mutually beneficial agreements and relationships with the Church, and as two large players in the family history space, we share a common goal of getting as many people as we can interested in their family history. Our relationship is a good one, and we are always looking for ways to cooperate with the Church in order to grow our business and ignite more interest in the category. I'm sharing all of this with all of you because I am sure that there will be some unhappy patrons of family history centers, and I wanted everyone to understand that this was not a one-way decision on our part.

Finally, I am constantly asked whether we think of the Church as a competitor. The answer to this really depends on the underlying assumptions of the question. Are we competing for dollars? No. Do we have exactly the same goals? No. Are we unfriendly? Absolutely not. Is TGN committed to making sure that Ancestry.com remains the #1 resource for online family history? Absolutely. Is Ancestry going to continue to be the home of the world's largest online family tree? Yup. Should we be able to innovate faster than anyone on the planet in this space? Of course. Are we two large players that each have done tremendous things to help people understand their family history? Yes. Can we continue to cooperate with the Church to get millions more people interested in family history? We can, and we will.

I think we have a pretty good game plan for continuing to grow a truly great company.

Thanks,

Tim

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As a point of clarification:

The WPA typescript (an index) gives the name of the informant. It does not state the relationship of the informant.

The register of births (a full-text document) gives the name of the informant. It also states the relationship of the informant.

Hope this helps....LAM

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From dplumer at tsl.state.tx.us Mon Mar 19 14:38:52 2007 From: dplumer at tsl.state.tx.us (Danielle Plumer) Date: Mon Mar 19 14:38:52 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Discontinued Access to Ancestry.com Databases -Follow-up In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <45057232A4AC6444B0F9452131E7446E0410CA04@exchange.win2k.tsl.state.tx.us>

Well, sort of. The first posts on this were from the letter sent by the Church to the Family History Centers; Leland Meitzer posted it on his GenealogyBlog: http://blog.dearmyrtle.com/2007/03/ancestry-to-cut-access-through-fhcs.html. He followed up with an inside letter from The Generations Network to Ancestry.com staff; see http://genealogyblog.com/ancestrycom/another-side-of-the-ancestrycom- removal-from-the-family-history-centers-5877.

DearMyrtle has some comments from FHC coordinators at http://blog.dearmyrtle.com/2007/03/ancestry-to-cut-access-through-fhcs.html

My gut feeling is that TGN wanted the Church to license the product on behalf of the Family History Centers, either through ProQuest's Ancestry LibraryEdition or a similar model, and that it was cost-prohibitive to do so, especially when FamilySearch is already investing resources in digitizing and indexing content to provide truly free public access (see http://genealogy.about.com/b/a/253614.htm and http://genealogy.about.com/b/a/201217.htm -- though I did see a comment somewhere, though I can't find it now, to the effect of "why does LDS want to waste time re- indexing the census?").

TGN refers repeatedly to "free" access, but of course we know that libraries pay significant fees. A couple of the comments on Eastman's post point this out, as well.

Danielle Cunniff Plumer, Coordinator Texas Heritage Digitization Initiative Texas State Library and Archives Commission 512.463.5852 (phone) / 512.936.2306 (fax) [email protected]

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:genealib- [email protected]]On Behalf Of Lyn Meehan Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 12:17 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: RE: [Genealib] Discontinued Access to Ancestry.com Databases -Follow-up

Has anyone read anything in defense of The Church? Have they posted a comment?

Please Read Dick Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter

"Ancestry.com Terminates Free Access to Family History Centers" http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2007/03/ancestrycom_ter.html

Thanks,

Lyn Meehan Information Service Division Edmonton Public Library

_____

From: [email protected] on behalf of Karen Stanley Sent: Sat 3/17/2007 5:34 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: Re: [Genealib] Discontinued Access to Ancestry.com Databases -Follow-up

Joy, thank you for sharing both sides of the story. I am particularly bemused by the FHL's decision to respond to this situation by directing their volunteer indexers to focus attention on producing yet another census index. Why? So that "free" access to indexes will be ensured.

There is no such thing as a free index. Even if the indexers are volunteers, there are costs to coordinating an indexing project, and there are also opportunity costs in duplicating work already done by somebody else. Every hour spent by a volunteer on indexing a given source is an hour that could have been spent on a different project. Only a fraction of the records in the FHL have been indexed, and if volunteers are directed to needless census indexing, a wealth of immigration, probate, and vital records will remain indexless for several years longer.

Today's genealogists now have access to multiple census indexes and census images which are readily available either free through public libraries or at a reasonable cost through private subscription. The only major gap remaining in census indexing is to transcribe and scan the handwritten Soundex cards, which remain an important alternative where illegible census microfilm led to inaccurate indexing.

Regards, Karen Stanley Houston, TX

Joy Rich wrote:

This was posted on today's Genealogy Blog at http://genealogyblog.com/ancestrycom/another-side-of-the-ancestrycom-removal-from- the-family-history-centers-5877 .

Joy

Joy Rich Chapter Representative, New York Metro Chapter Association of Professional Genealogists http://www.apgen.org http://www.apgen.org/chapters/newyork/index.html

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Another Side of the Ancestry.com Removal From the Family History Centers

> EMail This Post < | by Leland Meitzler | > permalink | 3/17/2007 |

Yesterday I posted the announcement about the removal of "free" Ancestry.com from the Family History Centers. I've now received a copy of communication written by The Generations Network CEO Tim Sullivan, to Ancestry employees. Keep in mind that there are two sides to every issue - so I think it's fair to make this post.

Although I personally don't profit in the slightest from the success of Ancestry.com, I am big supporter of what they do for the genealogical community. I believe that although their product isn't inexpensive, it's a tremendous value for any genealogist. Their continual addition of new digital data (case in point - The Iowa State Censuses!) - as well as indexes makes a real difference to genealogists. That said, you can see that I'm probably a tiny bit prejudice. I know that sometimes coming to agreements that work for all parties is hard - if not impossible.

Mr. Sullivan's letter follows: From: Tim Sullivan Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:38 PM To: FYI ALL Subject: Update

I also wanted to share a few thoughts with all of you on another topic. For the last seven years, our company has provided free access to Ancestry.com inside the family history centers of the LDS Church. During this time, we've done this without any formal agreement or compensation. Several months ago, we informed the Church of our desire to craft a formal relationship that would allow us to continue providing this free access. This is similar to the way that we license Ancestry.com to over 1400 public libraries in the U.S. and U.K. We do this for a license fee which lets patrons of these institutions use our service for free inside their facilities. As you can imagine, this is a very popular program among libraries.

Unfortunately, we were not able to come to agreement with the Church on the terms of this proposed relationship. We are disappointed by this, as we know that patrons of family history centers value Ancestry.com, and we think our institutional licensing program is priced very fairly. We remain willing and eager to have Ancestry.com available in family history centers, and we are even hopeful that at some point the Church will reconsider their position and decide to give patrons of their family history centers access to the world's greatest online resource for family history research.

We will continue to provide access in family history centers to a small number of databases which are covered by other agreements, and none of our other many agreements with the Church are impacted by this change. We continue to have a number of mutually beneficial agreements and relationships with the Church, and as two large players in the family history space, we share a common goal of getting as many people as we can interested in their family history. Our relationship is a good one, and we are always looking for ways to cooperate with the Church in order to grow our business and ignite more interest in the category. I'm sharing all of this with all of you because I am sure that there will be some unhappy patrons of family history centers, and I wanted everyone to understand that this was not a one-way decision on our part.

Finally, I am constantly asked whether we think of the Church as a competitor. The answer to this really depends on the underlying assumptions of the question. Are we competing for dollars? No. Do we have exactly the same goals? No. Are we unfriendly? Absolutely not. Is TGN committed to making sure that Ancestry.com remains the #1 resource for online family history? Absolutely. Is Ancestry going to continue to be the home of the world's largest online family tree? Yup. Should we be able to innovate faster than anyone on the planet in this space? Of course. Are we two large players that each have done tremendous things to help people understand their family history? Yes. Can we continue to cooperate with the Church to get millions more people interested in family history? We can, and we will.

I think we have a pretty good game plan for continuing to grow a truly great company.

Thanks,

Tim

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"though I did see a comment somewhere, though I can't find it now, to the effect of "why does LDS want to waste time re-indexing the census?")."

That was a posting made to GENEALIB on March 17 in answer, I believe, to the first posting notifying us of this situation.

Hope that helps!

Warmest regards,

Elise

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"Danielle Plumer" Sent by: [email protected] 03/19/2007 02:38 PM Please respond to Librarians Serving Genealogists

To "Librarians Serving Genealogists" cc

Subject RE: [Genealib] Discontinued Access to Ancestry.com Databases -Follow-up

Well, sort of. The first posts on this were from the letter sent by the Church to the Family History Centers; Leland Meitzer posted it on his GenealogyBlog: http://blog.dearmyrtle.com/2007/03/ancestry-to-cut-access-through-fhcs.html . He followed up with an inside letter from The Generations Network to Ancestry.com staff; see http://genealogyblog.com/ancestrycom/another-side-of-the-ancestrycom-removal-from- the-family-history-centers-5877 .

DearMyrtle has some comments from FHC coordinators at http://blog.dearmyrtle.com/2007/03/ancestry-to-cut-access-through-fhcs.html

My gut feeling is that TGN wanted the Church to license the product on behalf of the Family History Centers, either through ProQuest's Ancestry LibraryEdition or a similar model, and that it was cost-prohibitive to do so, especially when FamilySearch is already investing resources in digitizing and indexing content to provide truly free public access (see http://genealogy.about.com/b/a/253614.htm and http://genealogy.about.com/b/a/201217.htm -- though I did see a comment somewhere, though I can't find it now, to the effect of "why does LDS want to waste time re-indexing the census?").

TGN refers repeatedly to "free" access, but of course we know that libraries pay significant fees. A couple of the comments on Eastman's post point this out, as well.

Danielle Cunniff Plumer, Coordinator Texas Heritage Digitization Initiative Texas State Library and Archives Commission 512.463.5852 (phone) / 512.936.2306 (fax) [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Lyn Meehan Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 12:17 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: RE: [Genealib] Discontinued Access to Ancestry.com Databases -Follow-up

Has anyone read anything in defense of The Church? Have they posted a comment?

Please Read Dick Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter

"Ancestry.com Terminates Free Access to Family History Centers" http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2007/03/ancestrycom_ter.html

Thanks,

Lyn Meehan Information Service Division Edmonton Public Library

From: [email protected] on behalf of Karen Stanley Sent: Sat 3/17/2007 5:34 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: Re: [Genealib] Discontinued Access to Ancestry.com Databases -Follow-up

Joy, thank you for sharing both sides of the story. I am particularly bemused by the FHL's decision to respond to this situation by directing their volunteer indexers to focus attention on producing yet another census index. Why? So that "free" access to indexes will be ensured.

There is no such thing as a free index. Even if the indexers are volunteers, there are costs to coordinating an indexing project, and there are also opportunity costs in duplicating work already done by somebody else. Every hour spent by a volunteer on indexing a given source is an hour that could have been spent on a different project. Only a fraction of the records in the FHL have been indexed, and if volunteers are directed to needless census indexing, a wealth of immigration, probate, and vital records will remain indexless for several years longer.

Today's genealogists now have access to multiple census indexes and census images which are readily available either free through public libraries or at a reasonable cost through private subscription. The only major gap remaining in census indexing is to transcribe and scan the handwritten Soundex cards, which remain an important alternative where illegible census microfilm led to inaccurate indexing.

Regards, Karen Stanley Houston, TX

Joy Rich wrote: This was posted on today's Genealogy Blog at http://genealogyblog.com/ancestrycom/another-side-of-the-ancestrycom-removal-from- the-family-history-centers-5877 .

Joy

Joy Rich Chapter Representative, New York Metro Chapter Association of Professional Genealogists http://www.apgen.org http://www.apgen.org/chapters/newyork/index.html

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Another Side of the Ancestry.com Removal From the Family History Centers

> EMail This Post < | by Leland Meitzler | > permalink | 3/17/2007 |

Yesterday I posted the announcement about the removal of "free" Ancestry.com from the Family History Centers. I've now received a copy of communication written by The Generations Network CEO Tim Sullivan, to Ancestry employees. Keep in mind that there are two sides to every issue - so I think it's fair to make this post.

Although I personally don't profit in the slightest from the success of Ancestry.com, I am big supporter of what they do for the genealogical community. I believe that although their product isn't inexpensive, it's a tremendous value for any genealogist. Their continual addition of new digital data (case in point - The Iowa State Censuses!) - as well as indexes makes a real difference to genealogists. That said, you can see that I'm probably a tiny bit prejudice. I know that sometimes coming to agreements that work for all parties is hard - if not impossible.

Mr. Sullivan's letter follows:

From: Tim Sullivan Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:38 PM To: FYI ALL Subject: Update

I also wanted to share a few thoughts with all of you on another topic. For the last seven years, our company has provided free access to Ancestry.com inside the family history centers of the LDS Church. During this time, we've done this without any formal agreement or compensation. Several months ago, we informed the Church of our desire to craft a formal relationship that would allow us to continue providing this free access. This is similar to the way that we license Ancestry.com to over 1400 public libraries in the U.S. and U.K. We do this for a license fee which lets patrons of these institutions use our service for free inside their facilities. As you can imagine, this is a very popular program among libraries.

Unfortunately, we were not able to come to agreement with the Church on the terms of this proposed relationship. We are disappointed by this, as we know that patrons of family history centers value Ancestry.com, and we think our institutional licensing program is priced very fairly. We remain willing and eager to have Ancestry.com available in family history centers, and we are even hopeful that at some point the Church will reconsider their position and decide to give patrons of their family history centers access to the world's greatest online resource for family history research.

We will continue to provide access in family history centers to a small number of databases which are covered by other agreements, and none of our other many agreements with the Church are impacted by this change. We continue to have a number of mutually beneficial agreements and relationships with the Church, and as two large players in the family history space, we share a common goal of getting as many people as we can interested in their family history. Our relationship is a good one, and we are always looking for ways to cooperate with the Church in order to grow our business and ignite more interest in the category. I'm sharing all of this with all of you because I am sure that there will be some unhappy patrons of family history centers, and I wanted everyone to understand that this was not a one-way decision on our part.

Finally, I am constantly asked whether we think of the Church as a competitor. The answer to this really depends on the underlying assumptions of the question. Are we competing for dollars? No. Do we have exactly the same goals? No. Are we unfriendly? Absolutely not. Is TGN committed to making sure that Ancestry.com remains the #1 resource for online family history? Absolutely. Is Ancestry going to continue to be the home of the world's largest online family tree? Yup. Should we be able to innovate faster than anyone on the planet in this space? Of course. Are we two large players that each have done tremendous things to help people understand their family history? Yes. Can we continue to cooperate with the Church to get millions more people interested in family history? We can, and we will.

I think we have a pretty good game plan for continuing to grow a truly great company. Thanks,

Tim

______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070319/996f4c44/ attachment.html From dplumer at tsl.state.tx.us Mon Mar 19 15:57:53 2007 From: dplumer at tsl.state.tx.us (Danielle Plumer) Date: Mon Mar 19 15:57:54 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Discontinued Access to Ancestry.comDatabases-Follow-up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <45057232A4AC6444B0F9452131E7446E0410CA08@exchange.win2k.tsl.state.tx.us>

Well, duh! Didn't scroll down to the bottom. Thanks for reminding me!

Danielle Cunniff Plumer, Coordinator Texas Heritage Digitization Initiative Texas State Library and Archives Commission 512.463.5852 (phone) / 512.936.2306 (fax) [email protected]

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:genealib- [email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 2:54 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: RE: [Genealib] Discontinued Access to Ancestry.comDatabases -Follow-up

"though I did see a comment somewhere, though I can't find it now, to the effect of "why does LDS want to waste time re-indexing the census?")."

That was a posting made to GENEALIB on March 17 in answer, I believe, to the first posting notifying us of this situation.

Hope that helps!

Warmest regards,

Elise

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"Danielle Plumer" Sent by: [email protected]

03/19/2007 02:38 PM

Please respond to Librarians Serving Genealogists

To "Librarians Serving Genealogists" cc

Subject RE: [Genealib] Discontinued Access to Ancestry.com Databases -Follow-up

Well, sort of. The first posts on this were from the letter sent by the Church to the Family History Centers; Leland Meitzer posted it on his GenealogyBlog: http://blog.dearmyrtle.com/2007/03/ancestry-to-cut-access-through-fhcs.html. He followed up with an inside letter from The Generations Network to Ancestry.com staff; see http://genealogyblog.com/ancestrycom/another-side-of-the-ancestrycom-removal-from- the-family-history-centers-5877.

DearMyrtle has some comments from FHC coordinators at http://blog.dearmyrtle.com/2007/03/ancestry-to-cut-access-through-fhcs.html

My gut feeling is that TGN wanted the Church to license the product on behalf of the Family History Centers, either through ProQuest's Ancestry LibraryEdition or a similar model, and that it was cost-prohibitive to do so, especially when FamilySearch is already investing resources in digitizing and indexing content to provide truly free public access (see http://genealogy.about.com/b/a/253614.htm and http://genealogy.about.com/b/a/201217.htm -- though I did see a comment somewhere, though I can't find it now, to the effect of "why does LDS want to waste time re- indexing the census?").

TGN refers repeatedly to "free" access, but of course we know that libraries pay significant fees. A couple of the comments on Eastman's post point this out, as well.

Danielle Cunniff Plumer, Coordinator Texas Heritage Digitization Initiative Texas State Library and Archives Commission 512.463.5852 (phone) / 512.936.2306 (fax) [email protected]

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:genealib- [email protected]]On Behalf Of Lyn Meehan Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 12:17 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: RE: [Genealib] Discontinued Access to Ancestry.com Databases -Follow-up

Has anyone read anything in defense of The Church? Have they posted a comment?

Please Read Dick Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter

"Ancestry.com Terminates Free Access to Family History Centers" http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2007/03/ancestrycom_ter.html

Thanks,

Lyn Meehan Information Service Division Edmonton Public Library

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From: [email protected] on behalf of Karen Stanley Sent: Sat 3/17/2007 5:34 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: Re: [Genealib] Discontinued Access to Ancestry.com Databases -Follow-up

Joy, thank you for sharing both sides of the story. I am particularly bemused by the FHL's decision to respond to this situation by directing their volunteer indexers to focus attention on producing yet another census index. Why? So that "free" access to indexes will be ensured.

There is no such thing as a free index. Even if the indexers are volunteers, there are costs to coordinating an indexing project, and there are also opportunity costs in duplicating work already done by somebody else. Every hour spent by a volunteer on indexing a given source is an hour that could have been spent on a different project. Only a fraction of the records in the FHL have been indexed, and if volunteers are directed to needless census indexing, a wealth of immigration, probate, and vital records will remain indexless for several years longer.

Today's genealogists now have access to multiple census indexes and census images which are readily available either free through public libraries or at a reasonable cost through private subscription. The only major gap remaining in census indexing is to transcribe and scan the handwritten Soundex cards, which remain an important alternative where illegible census microfilm led to inaccurate indexing.

Regards, Karen Stanley Houston, TX

Joy Rich wrote: This was posted on today's Genealogy Blog at http://genealogyblog.com/ancestrycom/another-side-of-the-ancestrycom-removal-from- the-family-history-centers-5877 .

Joy

Joy Rich Chapter Representative, New York Metro Chapter Association of Professional Genealogists http://www.apgen.org http://www.apgen.org/chapters/newyork/index.html

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Another Side of the Ancestry.com Removal From the Family History Centers

> EMail This Post < | by Leland Meitzler | > permalink | 3/17/2007 |

Yesterday I posted the announcement about the removal of "free" Ancestry.com from the Family History Centers. I've now received a copy of communication written by The Generations Network CEO Tim Sullivan, to Ancestry employees. Keep in mind that there are two sides to every issue - so I think it's fair to make this post.

Although I personally don't profit in the slightest from the success of Ancestry.com, I am big supporter of what they do for the genealogical community. I believe that although their product isn't inexpensive, it's a tremendous value for any genealogist. Their continual addition of new digital data (case in point - The Iowa State Censuses!) - as well as indexes makes a real difference to genealogists. That said, you can see that I'm probably a tiny bit prejudice. I know that sometimes coming to agreements that work for all parties is hard - if not impossible.

Mr. Sullivan's letter follows:

From: Tim Sullivan Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:38 PM To: FYI ALL Subject: Update

I also wanted to share a few thoughts with all of you on another topic. For the last seven years, our company has provided free access to Ancestry.com inside the family history centers of the LDS Church. During this time, we've done this without any formal agreement or compensation. Several months ago, we informed the Church of our desire to craft a formal relationship that would allow us to continue providing this free access. This is similar to the way that we license Ancestry.com to over 1400 public libraries in the U.S. and U.K. We do this for a license fee which lets patrons of these institutions use our service for free inside their facilities. As you can imagine, this is a very popular program among libraries.

Unfortunately, we were not able to come to agreement with the Church on the terms of this proposed relationship. We are disappointed by this, as we know that patrons of family history centers value Ancestry.com, and we think our institutional licensing program is priced very fairly. We remain willing and eager to have Ancestry.com available in family history centers, and we are even hopeful that at some point the Church will reconsider their position and decide to give patrons of their family history centers access to the world's greatest online resource for family history research.

We will continue to provide access in family history centers to a small number of databases which are covered by other agreements, and none of our other many agreements with the Church are impacted by this change. We continue to have a number of mutually beneficial agreements and relationships with the Church, and as two large players in the family history space, we share a common goal of getting as many people as we can interested in their family history. Our relationship is a good one, and we are always looking for ways to cooperate with the Church in order to grow our business and ignite more interest in the category. I'm sharing all of this with all of you because I am sure that there will be some unhappy patrons of family history centers, and I wanted everyone to understand that this was not a one-way decision on our part.

Finally, I am constantly asked whether we think of the Church as a competitor. The answer to this really depends on the underlying assumptions of the question. Are we competing for dollars? No. Do we have exactly the same goals? No. Are we unfriendly? Absolutely not. Is TGN committed to making sure that Ancestry.com remains the #1 resource for online family history? Absolutely. Is Ancestry going to continue to be the home of the world's largest online family tree? Yup. Should we be able to innovate faster than anyone on the planet in this space? Of course. Are we two large players that each have done tremendous things to help people understand their family history? Yes. Can we continue to cooperate with the Church to get millions more people interested in family history? We can, and we will.

I think we have a pretty good game plan for continuing to grow a truly great company.

Thanks,

Tim

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Gary Strank,

I am the Ladies Auxiliary of the Military Order of the Purple Heart National VAVS Representative. I have had a request from Diane Brenner to be named the LAMOPH VAVS Representative to Quincy Veterans Home. I have researched to find this facility has as the parent facility, Iowa City VAMC.

According to a letter from Mrs. Brenner, the name of Elaine Mons is the LAMOPH Representative to Quincy. This appointment was made before I was appointed as the Nat Rep.

Please, help me to fulfill Mrs. Brenner's request with information about the person to send the request for appointment - provided the appointment is possible.

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We are trying to determine if a problem we are having with Ancestry Library Edition is us or them. After one or two searches our patrons are being kicked off. I think this is an internal problem, but if you are experiencing the same difficulties, please email me off list.

Thank you,

Janice Schultz, Genealogy Librarian Mid-Continent Public Library [email protected] -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/ge Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal.

From dfiskehiker at yahoo.com Mon Mar 19 22:41:58 2007 From: dfiskehiker at yahoo.com (Dave Fiske) Date: Mon Mar 19 22:42:00 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Early Physicians Index? In-Reply-To: <001201c767d2$8c1ccfc0$2d01a8c0@homebase> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Limited information (name, address, hospital, etc.) might be available in some of the books Google has digitized at http://books.google.com

Try searching the surname along with "medical directory" or "medical register".

David Fiske

--- Genehunter wrote:

> Also the National Genealogical Society has a > searchable database on their > website, accessed through the "members-only" > section. Their description: > "NGS has a collection of cards originally created by > the American Medical > Association. They provide information for physicians > who died between 1906 > and 1964." > > > > > > > > > ______> genealib mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib

From MTucker at slco.lib.ut.us Tue Mar 20 08:42:15 2007 From: MTucker at slco.lib.ut.us (Melanie Tucker) Date: Tue Mar 20 08:46:16 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry Library Edition References: <45FEF225.28506.29ADCEB@localhost> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

I haven't had patrons complain, but I was kicked off several times last week while doing my own research. In my case, the window just automatically closes, and you have to log onto ancestry over and over again. It kicked me off either when I tried to click on a name for an individual in a census or when I tried to look at the actual census image.

Melanie Tucker Assistant Manager Hunter Library 4740 West 4100 South West Valley City, UT 84120 (801) 944-7550 [email protected]

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From: [email protected] on behalf of Janice Schultz Sent: Mon 3/19/2007 7:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry Library Edition

We are trying to determine if a problem we are having with Ancestry Library Edition is us or them. After one or two searches our patrons are being kicked off. I think this is an internal problem, but if you are experiencing the same difficulties, please email me off list.

Thank you,

Janice Schultz, Genealogy Librarian Mid-Continent Public Library [email protected] -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/ge Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal.

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I have been having the same problem as well, for maybe a week. IT updated my windows package yesterday- including Internet Explorer 7 and I have not had any additional problems with Ancestry Library Edition.

Thanks- Bridget B. Striker Local History Librarian Boone County Public Library Scheben Branch 859 384-5550

------Original Message ------From: "Melanie Tucker" Reply-To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:42:15 -0600

>I haven't had patrons complain, but I was kicked off several times last week while doing my own research. In my case, the window just automatically closes, and you have to log onto ancestry over and over again. It kicked me off either when I tried to click on a name for an individual in a census or when I tried to look at the actual census image. > >Melanie Tucker >Assistant Manager >Hunter Library >4740 West 4100 South >West Valley City, UT 84120 >(801) 944-7550 >[email protected] > >______> >From: [email protected] on behalf of Janice Schultz >Sent: Mon 3/19/2007 7:27 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry Library Edition > > > >We are trying to determine if a problem we are having with Ancestry >Library Edition is us or them. After one or two searches our patrons >are being kicked off. I think this is an internal problem, but if >you are experiencing the same difficulties, please email me off list. > >Thank you, > > Janice Schultz, Genealogy Librarian > Mid-Continent Public Library > [email protected] -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/ge > Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal. > > > >______>genealib mailing list >[email protected] >http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib > > > >

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From reminder at comcast.net Tue Mar 20 11:59:46 2007 From: reminder at comcast.net (Ceya) Date: Tue Mar 20 11:59:43 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Want to swap... References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <015601c76b08$c85591f0$6401000a@minder>

I have a huge notebook (pages are only printed on one side) on Decatur County, Georgia Marriages: 1824-1943 given to me. It is in a big, 3-ring notebook and looks like someone's workcopy. I have no need for it; but, would like to swap it for something that I might need:

Hardbacks or notebooks for trade on:

Tarboro, NC Wayne County, North Carolina Orange County, SC or NC? Lee County, Georgia Crawfordsville, Georgia area Southeast Alabama counties: Houston, Dale, Geneva, Barbour, Pike, Henry, Coffee, Clarke, and possibly others Genealogies: Bolton, Burkett, Callahan (Georgia), Champion, Childs, Deavers, Gill, Goodwin, Hobbs, Jennings, Manly, McVay, Rials, Richards, Roberts (Georgia), Rowland, Sellers, Stanaland, Tyler (Louisiana), White (early Alabama), etc.

The book's postage will be a lot since it is so big. When we settle on a swap, I will have the postage computed and we will make some adjustments.

Ceya Minder, Librarian Southeast Ala. Gen. & Historical Society Dothan, Alabama

Please email me privately.

From pal-wahaili at munpl.org Tue Mar 20 12:41:28 2007 From: pal-wahaili at munpl.org (Patricia Al-Wahaili) Date: Tue Mar 20 12:41:35 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry Library Edition Message-ID:

We have been having the same problem with Ancestry for over a week. Thank you for posting this on the list...now we know the problem is not at our end.

Patricia Al-Wahaili Local History & Genealogy Center Supervisor Muncie Public Library 210 S. Jefferson Muncie, IN 47305 (765) 741-5153

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Janice Schultz Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 8:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry Library Edition

We are trying to determine if a problem we are having with Ancestry Library Edition is us or them. After one or two searches our patrons are being kicked off. I think this is an internal problem, but if you are experiencing the same difficulties, please email me off list.

Thank you,

Janice Schultz, Genealogy Librarian Mid-Continent Public Library [email protected] -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/ge Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal.

______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib From Tim.Herrmann at kentonlibrary.org Tue Mar 20 12:52:24 2007 From: Tim.Herrmann at kentonlibrary.org (Tim Herrmann) Date: Tue Mar 20 12:52:23 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry Library Edition Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Ditto here. Ancestry has been very unstable for the last week or so. Our systems people are relieved to know it's not us.

Tim

Tim Herrmann Kentucky History Specialist Kenton County Public Library 502 Scott Street Covington KY 41011 859-962-4060 ext. 4232 (office) 859-962-4070 (Kentucky Reference Desk)

"Be not ashamed of mistakes and thus make them crimes." - Confucius

From ge_librarian at mcpl.lib.mo.us Tue Mar 20 13:02:25 2007 From: ge_librarian at mcpl.lib.mo.us (Janice Schultz) Date: Tue Mar 20 13:03:18 2007 Subject: [Genealib] free books Message-ID: <45FFCD51.13755.D2C585@localhost>

The following are free to the first respondent(s):

Searching on Location: Planning a Research Trip, by Anne Ross Balhuizen, 1992. (two copies)

Getting Started: How To Begin Researching Your Family History, by Anne Ross Balhuizen, 1994

Ancestry's Guide To Research: Case Studies In American Genealogy, by Cerny & Eakle, 1985. (four copies)

The Complete Book of Emigrants, volume 2, by Peter Wilson Coldham, 1990.

Genealogical Research: Methods and Sources, volumes 1 and 2, ed. by Milton Rubincam, 1980.

In Search of Scottish Ancestry, by Gerald Hamilton-Edwards, 1972.

Genealogy My Way: How I Traced and Compiled My Family Genealogy, by Lavonne J. Bouressa, 1977. (two copies)

Genealogist's Handbook For Atlantic Canada Research, ed. by Terrence M. Punch, 1989. Getting It All Together: A Primer In Beginning Genealogy, volume 1 Digging Up Your Roots: A Guide to Basic Genealogical Sources: A Primer In Beginning Genealogy, volume 2 Digging Up Your Roots: A Guide to Genealogical Records At the Federal Level: A Primer In Beginning Genealogy, volume 3, 1989, 1990

A Guide To Ancestral Research: London, by Phillip B. Dunn, 1987, 1989.

Handbook On Irish Genealogy: How To Trace Your Ancestos and Relatives In Ireland, 1980. (two copies)

Finding English Ancestors: Jurisdictions and Record Sources, by Arlene Eakle, 1979. (three copies)

Genealogical Research Standards, by Derek Harland, 1963. (two copies)

The Researchers Guide To American Genealogy, 2nd Ed., by Val D. Greenwood, 1990. (three copies)

The Researchers Guide To American Genealogy, by Val D. Greenwood, 1973. (three copies)

Janice Schultz, Genealogy Librarian Mid-Continent Public Library [email protected] -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/ge Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal.

From Patricia.VanSkaik at cincinnatilibrary.org Tue Mar 20 13:10:15 2007 From: Patricia.VanSkaik at cincinnatilibrary.org (Van Skaik, Patricia) Date: Tue Mar 20 13:10:18 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Virginia slave births In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

CP, Have we ordered Virginia Slave Births? Also, where are we w other new publications from the Heritage Books Catalog? Pat

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:genealib- [email protected]]On Behalf Of Leslie Morales Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 7:59 PM To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history; VA- [email protected]; Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: [Genealib] Virginia slave births

Virginia Slave Births Index, 1853-1865, Volume 1, A-C Alexandria Library, Local History/Special Collections Leslie Anderson Morales, Editor Ada Valaitis, Assistant Editor ISBN 978-0-7884-4232-5 $48.00 plus shipping/handling Available from Heritage Books at www.HeritageBooks.com In 1853, the Commonwealth of Virginia began an annual registration of births and deaths. The Birth Index of Slaves, 1853-1865 was later transcribed by the Works Project Administration (WPA) and recorded on microfilm. While the information -- name of slave owner, infant's name, mother's name, birth date, place of birth -- is of immense value to genealogists, working with the microfilm can be problematic. Hence the creation of this multi-volume reference work, Virginia Slave Births Index, 1853-1865.

In 2003, staff and volunteers with Local History/Special Collections, Alexandria Library began to transcribe the WPA microfilm, enter data into spreadsheets, and sort the information by slave owner's surname and given name. Entries include single births, multiple births, and stillbirths. Occasionally, both parents of an enslaved infant are identified. In rare instances, the name of a freeborn infant appears. Independent city and couty names are spelled out. Data not reported in the microfilm is denoted by "----." Illegible text in the microfilm is denoted by "####." This index includes more than 130,000 entries.

Leslie Anderson Morales Reference Librarian Local History/Special Collections Alexandria Library 717 Queen Street Alexandria, VA 22314-2420 (703) 838-4577 x213 http://www.alexandria.lib.va.us/branches/lhsc.html

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Allegan Public Library would love to have one copy of all available books. We are rather new and growing a collection on a small budget. Thank You! Linda Koch Reference & Adult Services Librarian The Allegan Public Library 331 Hubbard St. Allegan, MI 49010 269-673-4625 FAX 269-673-8661 open M-Th 10-9; F & Sa 9-5:30 www.alleganlibrary.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Schultz" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 1:02 PM Subject: [Genealib] free books

> The following are free to the first respondent(s): > > Searching on Location: Planning a Research Trip, by Anne Ross > Balhuizen, 1992. (two copies) > > Getting Started: How To Begin Researching Your Family History, by > Anne Ross Balhuizen, 1994 > > Ancestry's Guide To Research: Case Studies In American Genealogy, by > Cerny & Eakle, 1985. (four copies) > > The Complete Book of Emigrants, volume 2, by Peter Wilson Coldham, > 1990. > > Genealogical Research: Methods and Sources, volumes 1 and 2, ed. by > Milton Rubincam, 1980. > > In Search of Scottish Ancestry, by Gerald Hamilton-Edwards, 1972. > > Genealogy My Way: How I Traced and Compiled My Family Genealogy, by > Lavonne J. Bouressa, 1977. (two copies) > > Genealogist's Handbook For Atlantic Canada Research, ed. by Terrence > M. Punch, 1989. > > Getting It All Together: A Primer In Beginning Genealogy, volume 1 > Digging Up Your Roots: A Guide to Basic Genealogical Sources: A > Primer In Beginning Genealogy, volume 2 > Digging Up Your Roots: A Guide to Genealogical Records At the Federal > Level: A Primer In Beginning Genealogy, volume 3, 1989, 1990 > > A Guide To Ancestral Research: London, by Phillip B. Dunn, 1987, > 1989. > > Handbook On Irish Genealogy: How To Trace Your Ancestos and Relatives > In Ireland, 1980. (two copies) > > Finding English Ancestors: Jurisdictions and Record Sources, by > Arlene Eakle, 1979. (three copies) > > Genealogical Research Standards, by Derek Harland, 1963. (two copies) > > The Researchers Guide To American Genealogy, 2nd Ed., by Val D. > Greenwood, 1990. (three copies) > > The Researchers Guide To American Genealogy, by Val D. Greenwood, > 1973. (three copies) > > > Janice Schultz, Genealogy Librarian > Mid-Continent Public Library > [email protected] -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/ge > Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal. > > > > ______> genealib mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib

From caris651 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 20 13:25:02 2007 From: caris651 at yahoo.com (Carolyn Smith) Date: Tue Mar 20 13:25:05 2007 Subject: [Genealib] free books Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Janice, We at the Bangor Family History Center would like the following, if they are still available:

Searching on Location: Planning a Research Trip, by Anne Ross Balhuizen, 1992. (two copies)

Genealogist's Handbook For Atlantic Canada Research, ed. by Terrence M. Punch, 1989.

Handbook On Irish Genealogy: How To Trace Your Ancestos and Relatives In Ireland, 1980. (two copies)

Finding English Ancestors: Jurisdictions and Record Sources, by Arlene Eakle, 1979. (three copies

My address is: Carolyn I. Smith 651 College Avenue Old Town, ME 04468 Please let me know of any costs involved.

Thank you in advance,

Carolyn Smith

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Most of us seem to be charging small fees for research requests. For off site requests, we have been charging $5 plus $0.25 per page for obits, city directory info, basic lookups that take less than 30 minutes. Some are pre-paid or we include an invoice with the materials. Is anyone using PayPal or a similar system for credit card payments of genealogy research fees or obit request fees? Thanks,

Julie H. Bartlett Archivist Calvin Coolidge Presidential Library & Museum Hampshire Room for Local History Forbes Library 20 West St. Northampton, MA 01060 (413) 587-1014 [email protected] From nstallings at hcpl.org Tue Mar 20 15:08:21 2007 From: nstallings at hcpl.org (Niki Stallings) Date: Tue Mar 20 14:07:46 2007 Subject: [Genealib] fees In-Reply-To: <00c401c76b19$d54d35f0$1701a8c0@P08NO> Message-ID: <200703201307637.SM03416@CATALOGING>

Thanks to everyone who gave me their feedback on how much they charge for research. I was shocked at the low amount everyone is charging. We charge $20.00 per hour. If it takes longer than 15 minutes we do not charge a research fee...just a fee for copies & postage. We were thinking about charging a per obituary fee (we have an obituary index online now that has the past 10-15 years in it and is being worked on daily to add more) since we're starting to get more requests.

We've also ran across several times recently someone wanting us to scan and email them our information....we don't care to do this for free, but some patrons would tend to take advantage of the free service and start asking for a lot. We've thought about applying our regular research fee to this service as well.

I've wanted to start using paypal for payment but our director is not open to that suggestion, but I think it would be a wonderful addition to our services.

Niki Stallings Head of Technical Services Henderson County Public Library 101 South Main Street Henderson, Kentucky 42420

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Local History Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 12:02 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: [Genealib] fees

Most of us seem to be charging small fees for research requests. For off site requests, we have been charging $5 plus $0.25 per page for obits, city directory info, basic lookups that take less than 30 minutes. Some are pre-paid or we include an invoice with the materials. Is anyone using PayPal or a similar system for credit card payments of genealogy research fees or obit request fees? Thanks,

Julie H. Bartlett Archivist Calvin Coolidge Presidential Library & Museum Hampshire Room for Local History Forbes Library 20 West St. Northampton, MA 01060 (413) 587-1014 [email protected] ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib

From tluscombe at mckinneytexas.org Tue Mar 20 14:14:28 2007 From: tluscombe at mckinneytexas.org (Tracy Luscombe) Date: Tue Mar 20 14:15:55 2007 Subject: [Genealib] fees In-Reply-To: <200703201307637.SM03416@CATALOGING> Message-ID: <45255A04888B1047B7266192603F135BA8224C@mckmail1.ds.mckinneytexas.org>

Just to throw in my two-cents worth. We have the local paper obituaries indexed. We do not charge anything to make a copy of an obituary and send it to them, either by snail mail or email attachment. We simply tell folks that donations are appreciated. Almost everybody sends a donation that at least covers postage. This is for out of town people. For local people we ask them to come in a make the copies themselves.

Beyond obituaries we have a two-volume set of books called Collin County Families and two-volume set of Collin County Cemeteries. We'll also make copies of pages of these books at no charge.

Any more extensive research is considered outside the scope of our services.

Tracy E. Luscombe Genealogy Librarian McKinney Memorial Public Library 101 E. Hunt Street McKinney, TX 75069 [email protected] 972-547-7343 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Niki Stallings Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 2:08 PM To: 'Librarians Serving Genealogists' Subject: RE: [Genealib] fees

Thanks to everyone who gave me their feedback on how much they charge for research. I was shocked at the low amount everyone is charging. We charge $20.00 per hour. If it takes longer than 15 minutes we do not charge a research fee...just a fee for copies & postage. We were thinking about charging a per obituary fee (we have an obituary index online now that has the past 10-15 years in it and is being worked on daily to add more) since we're starting to get more requests.

We've also ran across several times recently someone wanting us to scan and email them our information....we don't care to do this for free, but some patrons would tend to take advantage of the free service and start asking for a lot. We've thought about applying our regular research fee to this service as well.

I've wanted to start using paypal for payment but our director is not open to that suggestion, but I think it would be a wonderful addition to our services.

Niki Stallings Head of Technical Services Henderson County Public Library 101 South Main Street Henderson, Kentucky 42420

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Local History Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 12:02 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: [Genealib] fees

Most of us seem to be charging small fees for research requests. For off site requests, we have been charging $5 plus $0.25 per page for obits, city directory info, basic lookups that take less than 30 minutes. Some are pre-paid or we include an invoice with the materials. Is anyone using PayPal or a similar system for credit card payments of genealogy research fees or obit request fees? Thanks,

Julie H. Bartlett Archivist Calvin Coolidge Presidential Library & Museum Hampshire Room for Local History Forbes Library 20 West St. Northampton, MA 01060 (413) 587-1014 [email protected]

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The material in this e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, privileged, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that the unauthorized review, use, disclosure, duplication, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return email and destroy all electronic and paper copies of the original message and any attachments immediately. Please note that neither City of McKinney nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Thank You. From espear at shareinet.net Tue Mar 20 22:06:48 2007 From: espear at shareinet.net ([email protected]) Date: Tue Mar 20 22:07:09 2007 Subject: [Genealib] fees In-Reply-To: <00c401c76b19$d54d35f0$1701a8c0@P08NO> References: <[email protected]> <015601c76b08$c85591f0$6401000a@minder> <00c401c76b19$d54d35f0$1701a8c0@P08NO> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Julie: We do not advertise it but when a customer is on the phone and arranging for payment we tell them that in addition to the regular credit cards we also will accept paypal.

About 25% pay with paypal and it is increasing.

Elmer C. Spear, founder Elmer's Genealogy Library Madison, Florida www.elmerslibrary.com

From rlindberg at state.pa.us Wed Mar 21 05:35:53 2007 From: rlindberg at state.pa.us (Lindberg, Richard) Date: Wed Mar 21 05:36:07 2007 Subject: [Genealib] LC classification Message-ID:

I'm wondering how many members of the list work in libraries that use LC classification for their genealogy collections, and how that impacts patron use of the collection.

Richard L. Lindberg Genealogy/Local History Librarian State Library of Pennsylvania From genlib at srlsys.org Wed Mar 21 09:30:10 2007 From: genlib at srlsys.org (Genealogy Department) Date: Wed Mar 21 08:28:51 2007 Subject: [Genealib] free books In-Reply-To: <45FFCD51.13755.D2C585@localhost> Message-ID: <001801c76bbd$0cd64b30$7a00140a@ComputerC>

We would like these if still available....

Getting It All Together: A Primer In Beginning Genealogy, volume 1 > Digging Up Your Roots: A Guide to Basic Genealogical Sources: A Primer

> In Beginning Genealogy, volume 2 Digging Up Your Roots: A Guide to > Genealogical Records At the Federal > Level: A Primer In Beginning Genealogy, volume 3, 1989, 1990 >

Thank You,

Lydia Lott-Genealogy Department Satilla Regional Library S. Madison Ave., Suite D Douglas, Georgia 31533

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Janice Schultz Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 12:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] free books

The following are free to the first respondent(s):

Searching on Location: Planning a Research Trip, by Anne Ross Balhuizen, 1992. (two copies)

Getting Started: How To Begin Researching Your Family History, by Anne Ross Balhuizen, 1994

Ancestry's Guide To Research: Case Studies In American Genealogy, by Cerny & Eakle, 1985. (four copies)

The Complete Book of Emigrants, volume 2, by Peter Wilson Coldham, 1990.

Genealogical Research: Methods and Sources, volumes 1 and 2, ed. by Milton Rubincam, 1980.

In Search of Scottish Ancestry, by Gerald Hamilton-Edwards, 1972.

Genealogy My Way: How I Traced and Compiled My Family Genealogy, by Lavonne J. Bouressa, 1977. (two copies)

Genealogist's Handbook For Atlantic Canada Research, ed. by Terrence M. Punch, 1989.

Getting It All Together: A Primer In Beginning Genealogy, volume 1 Digging Up Your Roots: A Guide to Basic Genealogical Sources: A Primer In Beginning Genealogy, volume 2 Digging Up Your Roots: A Guide to Genealogical Records At the Federal Level: A Primer In Beginning Genealogy, volume 3, 1989, 1990

A Guide To Ancestral Research: London, by Phillip B. Dunn, 1987, 1989.

Handbook On Irish Genealogy: How To Trace Your Ancestos and Relatives In Ireland, 1980. (two copies)

Finding English Ancestors: Jurisdictions and Record Sources, by Arlene Eakle, 1979. (three copies)

Genealogical Research Standards, by Derek Harland, 1963. (two copies)

The Researchers Guide To American Genealogy, 2nd Ed., by Val D. Greenwood, 1990. (three copies)

The Researchers Guide To American Genealogy, by Val D. Greenwood, 1973. (three copies)

Janice Schultz, Genealogy Librarian Mid-Continent Public Library [email protected] -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/ge Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal.

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From suttonl at oakgov.com Wed Mar 21 09:17:05 2007 From: suttonl at oakgov.com (Sutton, Linda) Date: Wed Mar 21 09:17:09 2007 Subject: [Genealib] LC classification Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Our library uses LC for most of our collections including genealogy. We also house a society's collection and they use an adaptation of Dewey. As far as I know we have not had any complaints about having to go back and forth between the two. The catalog gives them the call number they need and they are able to find the material. I should point out though that our Genealogy, Local History, and State History collections are fairly small and easily browsed.

Linda Sutton

Oakland County Research Library

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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 05:35:53 -0400

From: "Lindberg, Richard"

Subject: [Genealib] LC classification

To: >I'm wondering how many members of the list work in libraries that use LC classification for their genealogy collections, and how that impacts patron use of the collection.

>

>Richard L. Lindberg

>Genealogy/Local History Librarian

>State Library of Pennsylvania

>______>______>genealib mailing list >[email protected] >http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070321/ aca9a02f/attachment.html From CHagler at michigan.gov Wed Mar 21 10:54:36 2007 From: CHagler at michigan.gov (Charles Hagler) Date: Wed Mar 21 10:54:52 2007 Subject: [Genealib] LC classification Message-ID:

Dear List:

The Library of Michigan genealogical collection uses the LC classification system for all our materials except serials. The patrons seem to have no problem with it since we make sure that everything is on our catalog including microfilm and microfiche. Family histories here (even Michigan) are all in the CS 71 with the family surname as the Cutter, state, county and local records are still group by states within LC regions (NE, Mid Atlantic, South, West). The only problem we encounter has been how our catalogers and copy catalogers do Canada. Over the years they have put Canadian materials either in CS 80-90 or in the F 1000. Make a decision early on to put provincial and local records and history in the F1000 class or you'll get a mess. Please note that most American war materials will go into the E's, but the World Wars materials will go into the D's. You will find the patrons will quickly get the hang of the arrangement and might even find it easier to use.

Charles

>>> "Sutton, Linda" 21-Mar-07 09:17 AM >>>

Our library uses LC for most of our collections including genealogy. We also house a society's collection and they use an adaptation of Dewey. As far as I know we have not had any complaints about having to go back and forth between the two. The catalog gives them the call number they need and they are able to find the material. I should point out though that our Genealogy, Local History, and State History collections are fairly small and easily browsed. Linda Sutton Oakland County Research Library ---- Original message ----

Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 05:35:53 -0400

From: "Lindberg, Richard"

Subject: [Genealib] LC classification

To:

>I'm wondering how many members of the list work in libraries that use LC classification for their genealogy collections, and how that impacts patron use of the collection.

>

>Richard L. Lindberg

>Genealogy/Local History Librarian

>State Library of Pennsylvania

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No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.15/728 - Release Date: 3/20/2007 8:07 AM From genlib at srlsys.org Wed Mar 21 14:25:38 2007 From: genlib at srlsys.org (Genealogy Department) Date: Wed Mar 21 13:24:22 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Free to a good home: Kegley's Virginia Frontier In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <000e01c76be6$563b1070$7a00140a@ComputerC> Will take it..

Lydia Lott-Genealogy Department

Satilla Regional Library

200 S. Madison Ave.

Douglas, Georgia 31533

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob Velke Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Free to a good home: Kegley's Virginia Frontier

The following book is free to a good home:

- F.B. Kegley, "Kegley's Virginia Frontier: The Beginning of the Southwest; The Roanoke of Colonial Days, 1740-1783" (Roanoke, 1938). NOT a reprint. Good condition. For description and photo of the actual book, see: http://www.archivecdbooksusa.com/find_acdb.mvc?refid=LIST &p=US0308

Each book will be accompanied by a free copy of the digital book on CD-ROM, a free on-site network license, and free shipping.

In order to share material with as many libraries and societies as possible, those who have received a donation from Archive CD Books USA are not eligible for another for 90 days. Interested parties should please write on behalf of their genealogy library or society to [email protected] (NOT to the list).

Bob Velke Archive CD Books USA www.ArchiveCDBooksUSA.com The Archive CD Books Project exists to make digital reproductions of old books available to the public, to donate original publications to libraries and other institutions, and to cooperate with these repositories to preserve their existing collections for future generations. Public libraries and qualified membership societies in the U.S. can get 33%-50% off every CD title and a free on-site network license.

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Thank goodness we are not the only ones! We have been having the same problem with Ancestry Library Edition for the last two weeks. A patron will log in, then after a couple of searches, he will get kicked out. It has been very frustrating . . . we also thought it was an internal problem since Ancestry.com was working fine for those with individual accounts.

Carol Anderson Adult Services Librarian

Leesburg Public Library 204 N. 5th Street Leesburg, Florida 34748

352-728-9790 [email protected]

Please note: Florida has a very broad public records law. Most written communications to or from government officials regarding government business are public records available to the public and media upon request. Your e-mail communications may therefore be subject to public disclosure. From lkoch at alleganlibrary.org Wed Mar 21 14:06:16 2007 From: lkoch at alleganlibrary.org (Linda Koch) Date: Wed Mar 21 14:05:59 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry Library Edition References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <001f01c76be3$9ecd9590$7a01a8c0@lindas>

Our Ancestry LE searches just fine, brings up detailed searches, but does NOT display the census images. We get a small red "X" in the upper left corner of the image page. We have Explorer 7.0, so I do not think that is the problem. I could not find any links to contact Ancestry, but they must be aware of the problem. Thank goodness we also subscribe to Heritage Quest. I am able to find people on Ancestry and then view the actual records on HQ. I anyone aware if and when ALE will fix this problem or give instructions on what subscribers should do to solve the problem ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Anderson" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:28 PM Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry Library Edition

Thank goodness we are not the only ones! We have been having the same problem with Ancestry Library Edition for the last two weeks. A patron will log in, then after a couple of searches, he will get kicked out. It has been very frustrating . . . we also thought it was an internal problem since Ancestry.com was working fine for those with individual accounts. Carol Anderson Adult Services Librarian

Leesburg Public Library 204 N. 5th Street Leesburg, Florida 34748

352-728-9790 [email protected]

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From rstoffer at marion.lib.in.us Wed Mar 21 14:18:25 2007 From: rstoffer at marion.lib.in.us (Rhonda Stoffer) Date: Wed Mar 21 14:18:05 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry Library Edition In-Reply-To: <001f01c76be3$9ecd9590$7a01a8c0@lindas> References: <[email protected]> <001f01c76be3$9ecd9590$7a01a8c0@lindas> Message-ID:

We have today begun getting an "error processing image" when trying to bring up the census image. Amen to HeritageQuest!

Rhonda Stoffer Head of Indiana History and Genealogy Services Marion Public Library

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Linda Koch Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:06 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Cc: librarian linda Subject: Re: [Genealib] Ancestry Library Edition

Our Ancestry LE searches just fine, brings up detailed searches, but does NOT display the census images. We get a small red "X" in the upper left corner of the image page. We have Explorer 7.0, so I do not think that is the problem. I could not find any links to contact Ancestry, but they must be aware of the problem. Thank goodness we also subscribe to Heritage Quest. I am able to find people on Ancestry and then view the actual records on HQ. I anyone aware if and when ALE will fix this problem or give instructions on what subscribers should do to solve the problem ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Anderson" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:28 PM Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry Library Edition

Thank goodness we are not the only ones! We have been having the same problem with Ancestry Library Edition for the last two weeks. A patron will log in, then after a couple of searches, he will get kicked out. It has been very frustrating . . . we also thought it was an internal problem since Ancestry.com was working fine for those with individual accounts.

Carol Anderson Adult Services Librarian

Leesburg Public Library 204 N. 5th Street Leesburg, Florida 34748

352-728-9790 [email protected]

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______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib From daysa at oplin.org Wed Mar 21 14:25:46 2007 From: daysa at oplin.org (Sandy Day) Date: Wed Mar 21 14:26:55 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry Library Edition Message-ID: <001e01c76be6$57d53870$7601a8c0@Ohio>

Hi Our library in SE Ohio is experiencing the same problem. It will not give the image, just says error processing image. If anyone out there finds out what the problem is let us all know! Sandy Day Genealogy Librarian Schiappa Library Steubenville, OH ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070321/ b6e82eb2/attachment.html From mrennie at erielibrary.org Wed Mar 21 14:35:49 2007 From: mrennie at erielibrary.org (Mary Rennie) Date: Wed Mar 21 14:35:59 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry Library Edition References: <001e01c76be6$57d53870$7601a8c0@Ohio> Message-ID: <016201c76be7$bf90be20$d701000a@DCYD3K81>

I had the same problems, but they stopped after I went to the Windows update webpage and downloaded current security updates, etc.

Mary Rennie Erie County Public Library ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandy Day To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:25 PM Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry Library Edition

Hi Our library in SE Ohio is experiencing the same problem. It will not give the image, just says error processing image. If anyone out there finds out what the problem is let us all know! Sandy Day Genealogy Librarian Schiappa Library Steubenville, OH

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Afternoon,

The Edmonton Public Library, Alberta, Canada is also experiencing the same problem; however, only with digitized data on Generations (Ancestry) mainframe. If documents are coming from the e.g. Library and Archives Canada, they are accessible, e.g. 1901 and 1911 Census of Canda are readible.

Lyn Meehan "Surfing for that Elusvice Ancestor" series

Information Services Division

Edmonton Public LIbrary

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From: [email protected] on behalf of Sandy Day Sent: Wed 3/21/2007 12:25 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry Library Edition

Hi Our library in SE Ohio is experiencing the same problem. It will not give the image, just says error processing image. If anyone out there finds out what the problem is let us all know! Sandy Day Genealogy Librarian Schiappa Library Steubenville, OH ------next part ------A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 4632 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070321/ aa6fbac1/attachment.bin From bvelke at archivecdbooksusa.com Wed Mar 21 14:48:58 2007 From: bvelke at archivecdbooksusa.com (Bob Velke) Date: Wed Mar 21 14:49:22 2007 Subject: [Genealib] TAKEN: Kegley's Virginia Frontier In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

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>From Edmonton, our Ancestry problems have been resolved.

Lyn Meehan Information Services Division Edonton Public Library

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From: [email protected] on behalf of Mary Rennie Sent: Wed 3/21/2007 12:35 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: Re: [Genealib] Ancestry Library Edition

I had the same problems, but they stopped after I went to the Windows update webpage and downloaded current security updates, etc.

Mary Rennie Erie County Public Library

----- Original Message ----- From: Sandy Day To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:25 PM Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry Library Edition

Hi Our library in SE Ohio is experiencing the same problem. It will not give the image, just says error processing image. If anyone out there finds out what the problem is let us all know! Sandy Day Genealogy Librarian Schiappa Library Steubenville, OH

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Phyllis Rickard AV / Outreach Librarian Lenawee County Library Adrian, MI [email protected]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Genealogy" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: [Genealib] Citation sheet

>A short time ago someone on this list was looking for a citation sheet to >place in a toploading poly notebook sleeve. It was described as having >alternating gray and white stripes and including spaces to completely >describe the source of the resource that would be placed in the same >sleeve. In sorting through files today, I think I may have found a copy >of this sheet. The title at the top is Reference Family Data Sheet. Along >the left border is > Copyright 1988, William Dollarhide, all rights reserved. > Could this be the sheet in question? > > Sally Malone > Genealogy specialist > [email protected] > > -- > [email protected] > Genealogy and Local History Room Morley Library 184 Phelps Street > Painesville, Ohio 44077-3926 (440) 352-3383 www.morleylibrary.org > > Queries and answers are placed in publicly accessible Family Files > cabinets as a service to researchers > > > ______> genealib mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib > >

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New England Regional Conference (NERGC) April 26-29 Hartford CT Information Session

Join us Thursday March 22 at 8PM ET for an informational teleconference about the NERGC conference

Register for this free teleconference session http://ancestralmanor.com/?tabid=140

Learn what to bring, where to stay, what the program and speakers have to offer at the 9th annual New England Regional Conference!

NERGC features include: Librarian's Day - pre-conference warmup, featuring topics on building a genealogy collection, creating online digital resources, and Connecticut resources.

Society Fair - information about many New England libraries, societies and organization resources in the vendor hall with exhibitors.

Space is limited for workshops on family history, photograph identification and digital image creation Thursday through Saturday!

Special Interest groups for will meeting Thursday evening for BCG certification, DNA, Family Reunion, Memory Book, Newsletter, Federal records, Connecticut, Maine, French Canadian, German, Irish, Scottish, and Mac user topics.

Speakers from all over the country will present topics in 7 different tracks:

Federal Records (immigrant, Revolutionary War, CT history, African American, research techniques, mariners and vessels, correspondence, migrations ) Ethnic research (ancestral homes, French Canadian, Asian, Quebec, English origins, Palatine, Irish, Russian, research in Ireland, African American & American Indian Patriots, British census, Famine immigrants, Eastern Europe) Records and sources (government, family artifacts, records access, paupers, cemeteries, law libraries, Ellis Island, Civil War) New England (Roger Williams, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New Hampshire, DAR, CT court records, Vermont Irish, Maine Popham colony CT probate, Maine history, CT State Library, Massachusetts State Archives, African American Civil War soldier) Skills & Methodology (ancestral homes, timelines, lineage societies, land records, women, large projects, colonial court records, War of 1812, source errors, photographs,combining source analysis, communities) Technology (PDAs, Cyndi's List, Internet genealogy, family trees online, automated research assistants, websites, handwriting analysis, DNA, photo analysis ) Writing & Documents (register style, family history, narratives, local records, document preservation), Genealogical Techniques (Forensic, DNA) Luncheons, a Friday night banquet and Sunday morning special program are also available.

Sharon Sergeant www.ancestralmanor.com

From dplumer at tsl.state.tx.us Wed Mar 21 18:38:08 2007 From: dplumer at tsl.state.tx.us (Danielle Plumer) Date: Wed Mar 21 18:38:12 2007 Subject: [Genealib] OCR Scanners In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <45057232A4AC6444B0F9452131E7446E0410CA41@exchange.win2k.tsl.state.tx.us>

Richard,

I believe that Huntsville-Madison County Public Library participates in the AlabamaMosaic project. You might contact Aaron Trehub at Auburn ([email protected]) for recommendations. They may also have some equipment and software you could test out.

There are two main OCR engines out there: ABBYY FineReader and OmniPage from Nuance. The full versions start at about $500, and you can download test versions. If these don't meet your needs (or you have a lot of money to spend!) you could try Verus, which has a more industrial-grade OCR engine. Google released an open-source OCR engine, Tesseract, but I haven't tried it, and you should note that it's not what Google itself is using in its scanning project.

Depending on the quality of your scans and the complexities of layout, accuracy will usually be anywhere from 80-95% for printed works. I've used both FineReader and OmniPage, and both were dreadful at recognizing personal names, so for genealogical purposes you'll still need to have your text edited and reviewed by humans.

Danielle Cunniff Plumer, Coordinator Texas Heritage Digitization Initiative Texas State Library and Archives Commission 512.463.5852 (phone) / 512.936.2306 (fax) [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:genealib- [email protected]]On Behalf Of Richard White Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] OCR Scanners

I am in the planning stages of a project for scanning/indexing of older genealogical and historical works in our collection. Specifically targeting those works that are only copy, out-of-print, etc. that have no index or TOC. I'd be interested to hear from others concerning...

... best equipment to use (Brand names) ... pricing ... accuracy ... advantages/disadvantages ... how well does the software handle the indexing ... any other comments that would be helpful.

Richard White Computer Genealogy Librarian Huntsville-Madison County Public Library 915 Monroe Street Huntsville, AL 35801 256.532.2360 [email protected] From robert.g.sullivan at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 19:59:02 2007 From: robert.g.sullivan at gmail.com (Robert Sullivan) Date: Wed Mar 21 19:59:06 2007 Subject: [Genealib] OCR Scanners In-Reply-To: <45057232A4AC6444B0F9452131E7446E0410CA41@exchange.win2k.tsl.state.tx.us> References: <[email protected]> <45057232A4AC6444B0F9452131E7446E0410CA41@exchange.win2k.tsl.state.tx.us> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

> Depending on the quality of your scans and the complexities of layout, accuracy will usually be anywhere from 80-95% for printed works. I've used both FineReader and OmniPage, and both were dreadful at recognizing personal names, so for genealogical purposes you'll still need to have your text edited and reviewed by humans.

Haven't used FineReader, but I've been using OmniPage for a number of years and the results have been heavily dependent on the quality of the original. It seemed to be very sensitive to the color of the paper - sometimes I have photocopied material from a beige page (which had terrible results) and it came through almost perfectly.

On the other hand, I have another set which I did not expect to process well, but the text was a little larger and that apparently helped a lot.

I should mention that I prefer to do my own formatting so it doesn't matter if columns etc. are preserved. Also, I would absolutely agree that the final result needs to be run past a human in this type of project.

Once you are satisfied with your software, your scanner doesn't have to be anything exotic... my HP 6300C cost about $300 in 2000 (plus a SCSI card) and has processed thousands of pages without a problem. If you're working from photocopies or unbound material, you'd probably want a feeder to ease the flow.

-- Bob Sullivan Schenectady Digital History Archive Schenectady County (NY) Public Library From ge_librarian at mcpl.lib.mo.us Thu Mar 22 11:41:02 2007 From: ge_librarian at mcpl.lib.mo.us (Janice Schultz) Date: Thu Mar 22 11:41:53 2007 Subject: [Genealib] free books Message-ID: <46025D3E.423.8A6E99@localhost>

The following are free to the first respondent(s):

Genealogy As Pastime and Profession by Donald Lines Jacobus, second revised ed. 1986.

Mayflower Ancestral Index, volume 1, 1981.

Genealogical Evidence: A Guide To the Standard of Proof Relating To Pedigrees . . . by Noel C. Stevenson, revised edition, 1989.

Handy Guide To English Genealogical Records by Phyllis Pastore Preece and Floren Stocks Preece, 1978.

The Source: A Guidebook of American Genealogy, ed. by Szucs and Luebking, 1997.

Beyond Pedigrees: Organizing and Enhancing Your Work by Beverly Delong Whitaker, 1993.

Janice Schultz, Genealogy Librarian Mid-Continent Public Library [email protected] -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/ge Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal.

From LMeehan at EPL.CA Thu Mar 22 11:48:29 2007 From: LMeehan at EPL.CA (Lyn Meehan) Date: Thu Mar 22 11:49:57 2007 Subject: [Genealib] free books References: <46025D3E.423.8A6E99@localhost> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

I would like the Mayflower Ancestral Index. Please contact me at my personal email to arrange how to receive it.

Thanks

Lyn Meehan Information Services Division Edmonton Public Library

______From: [email protected] on behalf of Janice Schultz Sent: Thu 3/22/2007 9:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] free books

The following are free to the first respondent(s):

Genealogy As Pastime and Profession by Donald Lines Jacobus, second revised ed. 1986.

Mayflower Ancestral Index, volume 1, 1981.

Genealogical Evidence: A Guide To the Standard of Proof Relating To Pedigrees . . . by Noel C. Stevenson, revised edition, 1989.

Handy Guide To English Genealogical Records by Phyllis Pastore Preece and Floren Stocks Preece, 1978.

The Source: A Guidebook of American Genealogy, ed. by Szucs and Luebking, 1997.

Beyond Pedigrees: Organizing and Enhancing Your Work by Beverly Delong Whitaker, 1993.

Janice Schultz, Genealogy Librarian Mid-Continent Public Library [email protected] -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/ge Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal.

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Sorry, [email protected]

Lyn

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From: [email protected] on behalf of Lyn Meehan Sent: Thu 3/22/2007 9:48 AM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: RE: [Genealib] free books

I would like the Mayflower Ancestral Index. Please contact me at my personal email to arrange how to receive it.

Thanks

Lyn Meehan Information Services Division Edmonton Public Library

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From: [email protected] on behalf of Janice Schultz Sent: Thu 3/22/2007 9:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] free books

The following are free to the first respondent(s):

Genealogy As Pastime and Profession by Donald Lines Jacobus, second revised ed. 1986.

Mayflower Ancestral Index, volume 1, 1981.

Genealogical Evidence: A Guide To the Standard of Proof Relating To Pedigrees . . . by Noel C. Stevenson, revised edition, 1989.

Handy Guide To English Genealogical Records by Phyllis Pastore Preece and Floren Stocks Preece, 1978.

The Source: A Guidebook of American Genealogy, ed. by Szucs and Luebking, 1997.

Beyond Pedigrees: Organizing and Enhancing Your Work by Beverly Delong Whitaker, 1993.

Janice Schultz, Genealogy Librarian Mid-Continent Public Library [email protected] -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/ge Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal.

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-----Original Message----- From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brent Tarter Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 11:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: LVA Closed 7 April 2007

The Library of Virginia regrets that it will be closed on Saturday, April 7, 2007. We have just learned the details of the U.S. Open Cycling Championship, an international bicycle race from Williamsburg to Richmond. The last leg of the race will be a closed course circuit around downtown Richmond with the Start/Finish line directly in front of the Library of Virginia building. The event will last all day and will involve extensive street closings. Attendance is estimated at 40,000 to 100,000. Access to the Library parking decks will be virtually impossible all day. From jlyles at cvrls.net Thu Mar 22 12:24:57 2007 From: jlyles at cvrls.net (Lyles, John) Date: Thu Mar 22 12:20:45 2007 Subject: [Genealib] What if.... Message-ID: <[email protected]> your genealogy department had more money than you knew what to do with, say $200,000 that had to be spent in the next couple of weeks, How would you spend it? Materials purchases only. Your suggestions are most welcomed. thanks John From nstallings at hcpl.org Thu Mar 22 13:24:01 2007 From: nstallings at hcpl.org (Niki Stallings) Date: Thu Mar 22 12:23:24 2007 Subject: [Genealib] What if.... In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <200703221123778.SM00568@CATALOGING>

We would probably buy a new reader/printer/scanner/emailer machine probably....and some new file cabinets...... and the list could go on...and on...and on...

Niki Stallings Head of Technical Services Henderson County Public Library 101 South Main Street Henderson, Kentucky 42420

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lyles, John Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] What if.... your genealogy department had more money than you knew what to do with, say $200,000 that had to be spent in the next couple of weeks, How would you spend it? Materials purchases only. Your suggestions are most welcomed. thanks John ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib

From genlib at srlsys.org Thu Mar 22 13:54:10 2007 From: genlib at srlsys.org (Genealogy Department) Date: Thu Mar 22 12:52:57 2007 Subject: [Genealib] free books In-Reply-To: <46025D3E.423.8A6E99@localhost> Message-ID: <000a01c76cab$1c0b52a0$7a00140a@ComputerC>

We would like this one if still available..

Beyond Pedigrees: Organizing and Enhancing Your Work by Beverly Delong Whitaker, 1993.

Thank you,

Lydia Lott--Genealogy Department Satilla Regional Library 200 S. Madison Ave. Douglas, Georgia 31533

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Janice Schultz Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] free books

The following are free to the first respondent(s):

Genealogy As Pastime and Profession by Donald Lines Jacobus, second revised ed. 1986.

Mayflower Ancestral Index, volume 1, 1981. Genealogical Evidence: A Guide To the Standard of Proof Relating To Pedigrees . . . by Noel C. Stevenson, revised edition, 1989.

Handy Guide To English Genealogical Records by Phyllis Pastore Preece and Floren Stocks Preece, 1978.

The Source: A Guidebook of American Genealogy, ed. by Szucs and Luebking, 1997.

Beyond Pedigrees: Organizing and Enhancing Your Work by Beverly Delong Whitaker, 1993.

Janice Schultz, Genealogy Librarian Mid-Continent Public Library [email protected] -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/ge Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal.

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From bteschek at hampton.lib.nh.us Thu Mar 22 12:55:28 2007 From: bteschek at hampton.lib.nh.us (Bill Teschek) Date: Thu Mar 22 12:56:07 2007 Subject: [Genealib] What if.... In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

If this is more than a hypothetical situation, then I'm sure we're all green with envy! I'd consider contacting publishers of reprint materials such as Higginson books and asking them to identify every title in their inventory that applied to our state and neighboring states of interest. Family genealogies included. I suspect that they would be happy to create such a list if they were told you had $200,000 to spend!

Bill Teschek [email protected]

Lyles, John wrote:

> your genealogy department had more money than you knew what to do with, say > $200,000 that had to be spent in the next couple of weeks, How would you > spend it? Materials purchases only. Your suggestions are most welcomed. > > thanks > John > ______> genealib mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib > From ge_librarian at mcpl.lib.mo.us Thu Mar 22 12:56:40 2007 From: ge_librarian at mcpl.lib.mo.us (Janice Schultz) Date: Thu Mar 22 12:57:30 2007 Subject: [Genealib] free books taken Message-ID: <46026EF8.14819.CFAA5A@localhost>

All of the free books have been taken.

Janice

Janice Schultz, Genealogy Librarian Mid-Continent Public Library [email protected] -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/ge Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal.

From Munroe at oshkoshpubliclibrary.org Thu Mar 22 12:59:43 2007 From: Munroe at oshkoshpubliclibrary.org (Mara Munroe) Date: Thu Mar 22 12:59:13 2007 Subject: [Genealib] What if.... In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

I assume you mean you have to buy books/periodicals/microfilm type materials, not equipment (darn, because she's right that the new microfilm reader/printer etc. would be great and they are expensive). Well, after I finished screaming and jumping up & down . . . I'd review my ILL requests. I'd order replacement unscratched microfilm for local newspapers, and extend my holdings to cover the rest of the county, not just our city (yeah, they have libraries too, but being more of a one-stop-shop is nice; we're the county seat and much more into genealogy). I'd check the LDS FHL holdings for my county/ city and see what I could order--but they are often slow at processing, sometimes you need to get permissions, so hop on this one. Ditto with my State Historical Society. And I'd hit e-bay, biblio.com, abebooks.com, bookfinder.com. Of course it helps that I can search Oshkosh and get 99% my city, whereas folks with a city name like Springfield or Jefferson would have a tougher time sorting.

Of course you didn't say where you are, and I don't know your migration patterns. In my library a print copy of AGBI would be one fast way to put a big dent in that.

When I have $$ left in my German-speaking Genealogy trust fund at the end of the year, I work on adding to our collection of Der Christliche Botschafter, the weekly put out by the Evangelical Association. (That's the Evangelical that becomes EUB and later United Methodist). They are expensive microfilms from the American Theological Library Association.

Hope something in here helped . . . and congratulations!

Mara Mara B. Munroe Local and Family History Librarian Oshkosh Public Library Oshkosh WI 54901-4985 "History is where the evidence leads us; heritage is what we choose to remember and celebrate." Edward T. Linenthal

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lyles, John Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 11:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] What if.... your genealogy department had more money than you knew what to do with, say $200,000 that had to be spent in the next couple of weeks, How would you spend it? Materials purchases only. Your suggestions are most welcomed. thanks John ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib From SUBVETPAUL at aol.com Thu Mar 22 13:02:59 2007 From: SUBVETPAUL at aol.com ([email protected]) Date: Thu Mar 22 13:03:14 2007 Subject: [Genealib] What if.... Message-ID:

In a message dated 3/22/2007 10:21:18 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes:

> your genealogy department had more money than you knew what to do with, say > $200,000 that had to be spent in the next couple of weeks, How would you > spend it? Materials purchases only. Your suggestions are most welcomed. > > thanks > John >

A set of the published genealogy of more than 3,600 men of the US Submarine Service Lost During WWII. A majoy genealogy library in every state should have a copy. A State index is included. Men from evey state are included.

For a description please see US SUBMARINE MEN LOST DURING WWII See the following for a description of the work. http://www.subvetpaul.com/Diedwwii.htm If your genealogy or archive library does not have these research books, request them to acquire a set. There are men from every state listed. The stories of all the lost boats are included as well as a state index. http://www.subvetpaul.com/Diedwwii.htm

Paul W. Wittmer [email protected] ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070322/87c197b3/ attachment.html From slloyd at tgn.com Thu Mar 22 13:18:22 2007 From: slloyd at tgn.com (Sean Lloyd) Date: Thu Mar 22 13:18:29 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry Library Edition In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <001e01c76be6$57d53870$7601a8c0@Ohio> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <9868DAB2CD3E5744877F626B73D92CEC035883A2@pr-ex1.corp.myfamilyinc.com>

To Whom It May Concern,

The Ancestry Library Edition site was experiencing some technical difficulties yesterday with some of our image filers, which was causing an "Error Processing Image" error for the majority of our online census images. We believe we have found the source of this problem, and it should now be corrected.

We are also aware of some reports that libraries using Internet Explorer have been experiencing browser crashing while searching on Ancestry Library Edition, (we not been able to duplicate this error in house). At this time we are still gathering information as to the exact causes of this error. It appears that some libraries have been able to correct the error by installing the latest Microsoft Internet Explorer updates for their browsers. As soon as we are able to identify the factors causing these crashes, we will work to resolve the issue.

If you have any questions, concerns or more information about either of these two situations, please feel free to contact our technical support team by calling 1-800-509-3884 M-F 8 AM - 5 PM MST, or you can email them at [email protected] .

Thank you,

SEAN LLOYD Library Liaison Institutional Support Manager The Generations Network

ancestry.com | genealogy.com | myfamily.com | rootsweb.com | family tree maker

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lyn Meehan Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:32 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: RE: [Genealib] Ancestry Library Edition

Afternoon,

The Edmonton Public Library, Alberta, Canada is also experiencing the same problem; however, only with digitized data on Generations (Ancestry) mainframe. If documents are coming from the e.g. Library and Archives Canada, they are accessible, e.g. 1901 and 1911 Census of Canda are readible.

Lyn Meehan

"Surfing for that Elusvice Ancestor" series

Information Services Division

Edmonton Public LIbrary

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From: [email protected] on behalf of Sandy Day Sent: Wed 3/21/2007 12:25 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry Library Edition

Hi Our library in SE Ohio is experiencing the same problem. It will not give the image, just says error processing image. If anyone out there finds out what the problem is let us all know! Sandy Day Genealogy Librarian Schiappa Library Steubenville, OH ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070322/ f5b5efb0/attachment.html From kstanley at flash.net Thu Mar 22 14:02:51 2007 From: kstanley at flash.net (Karen Stanley) Date: Thu Mar 22 14:02:55 2007 Subject: [Genealib] What if.... In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

I would suggest focusing on local/regional/state sources that are unlikely to be replicated across the country - state censuses, microfilmed county records for your county and adjacent counties, local and regional newspapers. These can be a major draw for your collection, especially if you are able to offer lookup services.

A speaker at the Illinois Library Association convention a few years ago mentioned this as an important circumstance that library managers should anticipate. He kept a file on things he would get if money were no object, with details on cost and where to obtain them. When a local philanthropist was looking around for something to donate money to and called several organizations including the library, the library manager was able to pull out his file and suggest a specific gift (in this case, a bookmobile) that met their intended gift amount. Having a specific need with a dollar amount to suggest impressed the donor, and the library got the money.

Regards, Karen Stanley

"Lyles, John" wrote: your genealogy department had more money than you knew what to do with, say $200,000 that had to be spent in the next couple of weeks, How would you spend it? Materials purchases only. Your suggestions are most welcomed. thanks John ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib

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Even thinking about a "free" $200,000 is driving me to the coffee pot!!! We would buy: 1) microfilm of our county deed records and the film of county records of surrounding counties in Alabama and Tennessee; 2) replacement copies for our "homemade" newspaper microfilm and film of all early (pre 1850) papers in Alabama; 3) microfilm of church newspapers in the southeast into other states; 4) print copies of thesis and dissertations that will be contributions to our collection of the history of North Alabama counties; 5) and, then on to Higginson! Rereading the above, I do think that I've overspent, but a dream is a dream. ;) Now where do we find the shelving and film cabinets????

Annewhite T. Fuller Manager Heritage Room Huntsville-Madison County Public Library PO Box 443 Huntsville, Alabama 35804-0443 256.532.5969 256.532.5997(fax) [email protected]

From reminder at comcast.net Thu Mar 22 17:23:28 2007 From: reminder at comcast.net (Ceya) Date: Thu Mar 22 17:23:16 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Southeast Alabama books... Just to make you aware... References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <003d01c76cc8$55ef17a0$6401000a@minder>

For your information... Trying to get the word out and make you aware...

Craig Remington, head of the cartographic lab at the University of Alabama, has--over the years--had his class go out and locate cemeteries in Alabama, and give directions to it. He appreciates any errors being corrected and/or additions to his rather thick book. The book is still for sale and has excellent maps with known, unknown, etc. cemeteries marked, etc. You really should email Craig and order his book. Also send any corrections to cemeteries, send information on cemeteries not in book, etc. Email Craig at: [email protected] In the subject line put:

Attention: Craig Remington

Also, I invite you to join The Southeast Alabama Genealogical and Historical Society, Inc. (SEAGHS). I co-founded this society in 1981 with Helon Cutler and it has been going ever since. We publish a quarterly, Wiregrass Roots, which is a benefit of membership. We also try to make you aware of what is available on southeast Alabama for researchers.

The books you are referring to, must be the books from the estate of a friend of mine who died. We sold most of the books for her grandson; but, I will have to see if there are any left. Please email me again when I have time to check on this.

A friend of mine, Mrs. Sarah Fowler, has just published her book on "A Window in Time: The 1860 Dale County, Alabama Census" w/annotations on almost each family in Dale County. If you are interested in purchasing this new publication, please email Sarah directly: [email protected]

SEAGHS is presently working on inventorying Memory Hill Cemetery (Dothan, Houston County, Alabama and the book (only 50) will be quite thick. It is being typed now.

SEAGHS also published--last year--An Index to History of Henry County, Alabama by Mrs. Marvin Scott. There are still a few copies of that for sale. Email: [email protected] if you are interested in that book (softbound).

A friend and I are working on the 1820 Alabama Census (whole state alphabetized) with some information slightly before and right after. It may be a little ways off yet as we both have been very busy! It will be advertised in SEAGHS' Wiregrass Roots when it is ready--among other sites.

Thanks for emailing.

Ceya Minder U.D.C.; DAR; and SEAGHS Librarian Dothan, Alabama Retired teacher: Wallace Community College Genealogist, Preservationist, Conservationist, etc.

From mkmannix at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 17:34:05 2007 From: mkmannix at gmail.com (Mary K. Mannix) Date: Thu Mar 22 17:34:08 2007 Subject: [Genealib] What if.... In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID:

Good answer with the thesis and dissertations, Annewhite!! I had not thought of that yet. To chime in .... I would, like many, go microfilm shopping ... so all that other stuff Annewhite mentioned, as relevant for my world, along with the newspapers for my big cities (Baltimore and DC, along with the African American newspaper for those communities) and, what the heck, a whole new set of my own newspapers, and if I could spend it on creating microfilm I would have all our counties' small papers filmed. I would then start poking around in what NARA might have to offer, with special emphasis on the Civil War, and I've been meaning to get the Ag Censuses for years!! Just a start ... Mary

Mary K. Mannix Maryland Room Manager C. Burr Artz Public Library Frederick County Public Libraries Frederick, MD and Chair, ALA\RUSA\History Section From Dlunow at aol.com Thu Mar 22 17:44:49 2007 From: Dlunow at aol.com ([email protected]) Date: Thu Mar 22 17:44:58 2007 Subject: [Genealib] What if.... Message-ID:

WOW! a "free" $200,000, WHAT a problem to have.

Well, after I calmed down a bit, we would:

Have any book repaired that needs to be repaired.

Have several bound.

Buy a film reader/copier. There is not one in our county that is for the use of the public.

Buy microfilm of our county records (any that are available that we don't have) Publish several county histories we own. These are hand written and have NEVER been published.

OH, yes, buy film cabinets.

Then when everything was in order, I would jump up and down and scream.

Diane Lunow Stagecoach Library for Genealogical Research 585 County Road 1492 Wimberley, Texas 78676-5674

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I, on the other hand, would concentrate on the recently published material from local and state societies if I decided to spend some or all of the offered funds. Here is my logic. If digitalization progresses at the same pace that is currently occurring, the reprints, while nice to have, will shortly be available online for free. In addition, they will be every word searchable unlike many of those unindexed tomes. I think of this as maximizing my return on investment (a phrase from a business course decades ago that still resonates as valid concept when investing the public dollar).

The cautionary note comes from my experience of dealing with these organizations. Often a lot of hand holding has to go on in the ordering process. I found many society officers did not understand the demands for specific information about titles, authors, etc. in order to create an order. I have met many wonderful people this way. This lengthens the process of ordering considerably, but is worth the effort.

If at all possible, I would establish a fund for long-term investment in your collection's continued development. I have spent years raising $10,000 for the Muskogee library. As I look forward, I see darker clouds on the horizon financially. Such a nest egg would provide a cushion for future acquisitions that will be more needed in the future than I feel any of us can expect today. $10,000 is not much, but it is better than the nothing the library started with 15 years ago. Even half of your benefactor's offer would be a good cushion against the future unknowns.

Wally Waits now retired

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I have a book that is 10 years old called Index to Georgia's 1867-69 Returns of Qualified Voters and Registration Oath book (white) by John David Brandenburg and Rita Binkley Worthy. They give an address of 365 Lake Forrest lane, Atlanta, Ga 30342-3213. In the back of the book they provide an order form and offer to go to the GA Archives and make a copy of the registration page and oath forms that you request at a price substantially lower than what GA Archives charges. Before I send my money to them does anyone know if they are still around and offering this service? The reader is instructed to make the check payable to Worthy-Brandenburg but googling that doesn't give me a site connected with them, only a site with a copy of the book for sale. A search of whitepages.com does not turn up a John Brandenburg or Rita Worthy at the Lake Forest address.

Tracy E. Luscombe

Genealogy Librarian

McKinney Memorial Public Library

101 E. Hunt Street

McKinney, TX 75069 [email protected]

972-547-7343

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The California Genealogical Society Library uses the LC classification system and patrons don't seem to have a problem with it - possibly because most of them have already been to the Sutro Library in San Francisco (a branch of the California State Library in Sacramento) which also uses the LC system. Also, quite a few of the patrons in this area have worked at, or graduated from, the University of California in Berkeley, or Stanford University, and have used the LC classification system at the libraries there.

One thing patrons have found useful is a list posted at the end of the stacks listing the states in alphabetical order, with the beginning of the call number range for each state. Another list in reverse order (of the major call number ranges in the stacks and what subject area each one represents) has also been helpful. Presently only about a third of the collection is in an online catalog, but the patrons seem to find LC-order shelving quite browse-friendly and don't resort to the card catalog very much (although they should).

If your library isn't presently using LC, but is considering switching to it, I'd highly recommend it.

Barbara Hill Library Committee member

At 02:35 AM 3/21/2007, you wrote:

>I'm wondering how many members of the list work in libraries that >use LC classification for their genealogy collections, and how that >impacts patron use of the collection. > >Richard L. Lindberg >Genealogy/Local History Librarian >State Library of Pennsylvania >______

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Back to the list after a few days away - I have asked that we get a few more patron computers to use in our library, as we are the only one of 35 in the system to have a subscription to ALE (the system does have a sub to Hertiage Quest which makes it available at all of them). Looks like we may be in for a lot more visitors.

From carriescorner at yahoo.com Sun Mar 25 13:40:55 2007 From: carriescorner at yahoo.com (Carrie Cook) Date: Sun Mar 25 13:40:58 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Re: What if... In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Can't echo the idea of shopping for "local" genealogy and history (even good social history) media enough, however if time is a factor, we all know how time consuming it can be. If you can, try to get volunteers to seek out local resources. If needed, this would be a great time to replace those items in your collection that need replacement - if available. Great broad resources such as the Official Record of the War of the Rebellion (the new DVD, with extras), Census, even the Quaker books that are currently not in "print", but available from GPC via CD are ideas. With that much to spend, unless you have tons of vacant space and the correct storage units already filling it, you may want to go with Microfilm or Electronic media if you can get it.

True, lots of stuff is available online, but who knows how access will be granted to it in the coming years. Additionally, who knows if funds will remain for continued membership to online services. I'm not a MLIS trained individual, so I may be speaking out of turn, but this new dust up with online services is making me nervous. Additionally, those electronic books can be read on any computer terminal that has a CD player - much easier to get donations of than a microfilm reader that is not worn out or a good, up to date, internet appliance. What is one person's surplus can work great as a terminal to read CDs - as long as the operating system is compatable and a tech has cleared it of viruses, etc. Still have lots of money to spend? If you have enough computer terminals, consider more than one copy of well used resources...

Now for a publisher's viewpoint - If you can't find enough places to spend the money, consider Archive copies of local printed sources you know may not stay in print. That way when your shelf copy is in tatters, you can replace it - even if it's been "out of print" for years. Another way to spend the money, if you are out of ideas, might be to purchase genealogy intensive (or useful) research tools, how to's, and local history for the circulating collection. This, if not against policy, may generate even more interest in your department, good will, etc.

An educators viewpoint - If you have someone available and willing, you might want to build a "classroom set" of materials. These can consist of basic resources that can be checked out by educators only for use in the classroom, or a quantity of a particular "text" that can travel with library staff as they go out and lecture in classrooms.

Ideas from the lady with many jobs, Carrie Cook [email protected] wrote: Message: 2 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:24:57 -0400 From: "Lyles, John" Subject: [Genealib] What if.... To: Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" your genealogy department had more money than you knew what to do with, say $200,000 that had to be spent in the next couple of weeks, How would you spend it? Materials purchases only. Your suggestions are most welcomed. thanks John

Carrie's Corner [email protected] http://www.neok.com/~ccorner "Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced."?James Baldwin

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I echo the idea of a classroom set of resources. When one is teaching how to read a source it's nice if all the students have a copy to look at!

Kate Stirk [email protected]

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If I weren't me, I would say talk to this guy, Craig Scott. He seems to know what is available, how to find it, supplies a lot of libraries with books from multiple publishers, knows the business, understands acquisition and collection management, and rarely has time to do all the things he wants to do. If anyone could advise one on how to spend $200K it would be him.

Fortunately, I am me, so I can't say any of those things. If someone would pipe in and say that would be a good idea he would feel much better about it all. I'm sorry, I couldn't help it.

C.

Craig R. Scott, CG

President and CEO

Heritage Books, Inc.

65 East Main Street

Westminster, MD 21157

800 876-6103 [email protected]

2348 books in print and growing. Visit www.HeritageBooks.com

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carrie Cook Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 1:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Re: What if...

Can't echo the idea of shopping for "local" genealogy and history (even good social history) media enough, however if time is a factor, we all know how time consuming it can be. If you can, try to get volunteers to seek out local resources. If needed, this would be a great time to replace those items in your collection that need replacement - if available. Great broad resources such as the Official Record of the War of the Rebellion (the new DVD, with extras), Census, even the Quaker books that are currently not in "print", but available from GPC via CD are ideas. With that much to spend, unless you have tons of vacant space and the correct storage units already filling it, you may want to go with Microfilm or Electronic media if you can get it.

True, lots of stuff is available online, but who knows how access will be granted to it in the coming years. Additionally, who knows if funds will remain for continued membership to online services. I'm not a MLIS trained individual, so I may be speaking out of turn, but this new dust up with online services is making me nervous. Additionally, those electronic books can be read on any computer terminal that has a CD player - much easier to get donations of than a microfilm reader that is not worn out or a good, up to date, internet appliance. What is one person's surplus can work great as a terminal to read CDs - as long as the operating system is compatable and a tech has cleared it of viruses, etc. Still have lots of money to spend? If you have enough computer terminals, consider more than one copy of well used resources...

Now for a publisher's viewpoint - If you can't find enough places to spend the money, consider Archive copies of local printed sources you know may not stay in print. That way when your shelf copy is in tatters, you can replace it - even if it's been "out of print" for years. Another way to spend the money, if you are out of ideas, might be to purchase genealogy intensive (or useful) research tools, how to's, and local history for the circulating collection. This, if not against policy, may generate even more interest in your department, good will, etc.

An educators viewpoint - If you have someone available and willing, you might want to build a "classroom set" of materials. These can consist of basic resources that can be checked out by educators only for use in the classroom, or a quantity of a particular "text" that can travel with library staff as they go out and lecture in classrooms.

Ideas from the lady with many jobs,

Carrie Cook [email protected] wrote:

Message: 2 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:24:57 -0400 From: "Lyles, John" Subject: [Genealib] What if.... To: Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" your genealogy department had more money than you knew what to do with, say $200,000 that had to be spent in the next couple of weeks, How would you spend it? Materials purchases only. Your suggestions are most welcomed. thanks John

Carrie's Corner [email protected] http://www.neok.com/~ccorner

"Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced."-James Baldwin

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Go for it, Craig. If somebody had such a windfall, what would you suggest?

On Mar 25, 2007, at 6:30 PM, Craig Scott wrote:

> If I weren?t me, I would say talk to this guy, Craig Scott. He > seems to know what is available, how to find it, supplies a lot of > libraries with books from multiple publishers, knows the business, > understands acquisition and collection management, and rarely has > time to do all the things he wants to do. If anyone could advise > one on how to spend $200K it would be him. > > > > Fortunately, I am me, so I can?t say any of those things. If > someone would pipe in and say that would be a good idea he would > feel much better about it all. I?m sorry, I couldn?t help it. > > > > C. > > > > Craig R. Scott, CG > > President and CEO > > Heritage Books, Inc. > > 65 East Main Street > > Westminster, MD 21157 > > 800 876-6103 > > [email protected] > > > > 2348 books in print and growing. Visit www.HeritageBooks.com > > From: [email protected] [mailto:genealib- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Carrie Cook > Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 1:41 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Genealib] Re: What if... > > > > Can't echo the idea of shopping for "local" genealogy and history > (even good social history) media enough, however if time is a > factor, we all know how time consuming it can be. If you can, try > to get volunteers to seek out local resources. If needed, this > would be a great time to replace those items in your collection > that need replacement - if available. Great broad resources such as > the Official Record of the War of the Rebellion (the new DVD, with > extras), Census, even the Quaker books that are currently not in > "print", but available from GPC via CD are ideas. With that much to > spend, unless you have tons of vacant space and the correct storage > units already filling it, you may want to go with Microfilm or > Electronic media if you can get it. > > > > True, lots of stuff is available online, but who knows how access > will be granted to it in the coming years. Additionally, who knows > if funds will remain for continued membership to online services. > I'm not a MLIS trained individual, so I may be speaking out of > turn, but this new dust up with online services is making me > nervous. Additionally, those electronic books can be read on any > computer terminal that has a CD player - much easier to get > donations of than a microfilm reader that is not worn out or a > good, up to date, internet appliance. What is one person's surplus > can work great as a terminal to read CDs - as long as the operating > system is compatable and a tech has cleared it of viruses, etc. > Still have lots of money to spend? If you have enough computer > terminals, consider more than one copy of well used resources... > > > > Now for a publisher's viewpoint - If you can't find enough places > to spend the money, consider Archive copies of local printed > sources you know may not stay in print. That way when your shelf > copy is in tatters, you can replace it - even if it's been "out of > print" for years. Another way to spend the money, if you are out of > ideas, might be to purchase genealogy intensive (or useful) > research tools, how to's, and local history for the circulating > collection. This, if not against policy, may generate even more > interest in your department, good will, etc. > > > > An educators viewpoint - If you have someone available and willing, > you might want to build a "classroom set" of materials. These can > consist of basic resources that can be checked out by educators > only for use in the classroom, or a quantity of a particular "text" > that can travel with library staff as they go out and lecture in > classrooms. > > > > Ideas from the lady with many jobs, > > Carrie Cook > > [email protected] wrote: > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:24:57 -0400 > From: "Lyles, John" > Subject: [Genealib] What if.... > To: > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > your genealogy department had more money than you knew what to do > with, say $200,000 that had to be spent in the next couple of > weeks, How would you spend it? Materials purchases only. Your > suggestions are most welcomed. > > thanks > John > > > > Carrie's Corner > [email protected] > http://www.neok.com/~ccorner > > "Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be > changed until it is faced."?James Baldwin > > > > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and > always stay connected to friends. > > ______> genealib mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib

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Thank you to those who responded to my question about LC classification. If I may ask one more question, do you shelve your genealogy materials with everything else, or do you shelve them separately? How does either work.

Richard L. Lindberg Genealogy/Local History Librarian State Library of Pennsylvania

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] on behalf of Charles Hagler Sent: Wed 3/21/2007 10:54 AM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists; Linda Sutton Cc: Subject: Re: [Genealib] LC classification

Dear List:

The Library of Michigan genealogical collection uses the LC classification system for all our materials except serials. The patrons seem to have no problem with it since we make sure that everything is on our catalog including microfilm and microfiche. Family histories here (even Michigan) are all in the CS 71 with the family surname as the Cutter, state, county and local records are still group by states within LC regions (NE, Mid Atlantic, South, West). The only problem we encounter has been how our catalogers and copy catalogers do Canada. Over the years they have put Canadian materials either in CS 80-90 or in the F 1000. Make a decision early on to put provincial and local records and history in the F1000 class or you'll get a mess. Please note that most American war materials will go into the E's, but the World Wars materials will go into the D's. You will find the patrons will quickly get the hang of the arrangement and might even find it easier to use.

Charles

>>> "Sutton, Linda" 21-Mar-07 09:17 AM >>>

Our library uses LC for most of our collections including genealogy. We also house a society's collection and they use an adaptation of Dewey. As far as I know we have not had any complaints about having to go back and forth between the two. The catalog gives them the call number they need and they are able to find the material. I should point out though that our Genealogy, Local History, and State History collections are fairly small and easily browsed.

Linda Sutton

Oakland County Research Library ---- Original message ----

Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 05:35:53 -0400

From: "Lindberg, Richard"

Subject: [Genealib] LC classification

To:

>I'm wondering how many members of the list work in libraries that use LC classification for their genealogy collections, and how that impacts patron use of the collection.

>

>Richard L. Lindberg

>Genealogy/Local History Librarian

>State Library of Pennsylvania

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Check your catalog and see if there are sets which are not complete. Consider adding a part 3 or 4 of an item which is missing those, or a new volume that is lacking, or even a new edition of an item you already have. See if there is a newly produced index for an item you have that is not indexed. If there is a state or even a county that is more in demand than others, purchase more materials. I buy nationally significant titles first, state second, and more local materials (except for our own state and county) last. This would probably also be a good opportunity to purchase materials for states that are not as much in demand, such as some of the western states. Make sure you have any book titles listed in the bibliography for such things as the Passenger and Immigration List Index. County histories are almost always useful.

-----Original Message----- From: Lyles, John [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] What if.... your genealogy department had more money than you knew what to do with, say $200,000 that had to be spent in the next couple of weeks, How would you spend it? Materials purchases only. Your suggestions are most welcomed. thanks John ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib From rgdom1 at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 14:32:02 2007 From: rgdom1 at gmail.com (Robin Dombrowsky) Date: Mon Mar 26 14:32:06 2007 Subject: [Genealib] more free books In-Reply-To: <45FA81C3.4237.920365@localhost> References: <45FA81C3.4237.920365@localhost> Message-ID:

Janice,

Received the books. You didn't say if you wanted reimbursement for postage (it was $3.81). Thanks again,

Robin

On 3/16/07, Janice Schultz wrote: > > The following are free to the first respondent(s): > > Death Records of Pioneer Missouri Women, 1808-1853 > > Missouri Land Claims, with a new index by Patricia Chadwell > > Missouri Heritage by Lew Larkin > > Missouri Genealogical Gleanings, volume 4 by Sherida Eddlemon (2 > copies) > > Missouri Genealogical Gleanings, volume 3 by Sherida Eddlemon > > Missouri Genealogical Records & Abstracts, volume 1 by Sherida > Eddlemon > > St. Joseph State Hospital Number 2, Buchanan County, Missouri: > Extracted from the 1900 Census of Buchanan County, Missouri > > Buchanan County Missouri Abstracts of Wills and Administrations From > Books "A" and "B" 1839-1857 > > Gone to Missouri: From Whence They Came - To Where & When (3 copies) > > United States Land Sales In Missouri: Springfield Land Office > Abstracts 1835-1846 (2 copies) > > Book of Obituaries - Missouri - Book 2 compiled by Lucretia L. St. > John > > We Remember: A Biographical Project of the Civil War Round Table of > Kansas City > > Missouri Miscellany, volume VII by Mrs. Howard Woodruff > > Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness: Nodaway County, Missouri: > A Black History, 1840-1940 > > > > Janice Schultz, Genealogy Librarian > Mid-Continent Public Library > [email protected] -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/ge > Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal. > > > > ______> genealib mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib >

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Looking for a quick favor ... thanks! Mary

-- Mary K. Mannix Maryland Room Manager C. Burr Artz Public Library Frederick County Public Libraries Frederick, MD and Chair, ALA\RUSA\History Section From jjohnson at plcmc.org Mon Mar 26 15:25:57 2007 From: jjohnson at plcmc.org (Johnson, Jane) Date: Mon Mar 26 15:25:21 2007 Subject: [Genealib] more free books In-Reply-To: References: <45FA81C3.4237.920365@localhost> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

We would like all except the duplicate copies, the periodicals and the St. Joseph hospital info.

Jane Johnson

PLCMC

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robin Dombrowsky Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 2:32 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: Re: [Genealib] more free books

Janice,

Received the books. You didn't say if you wanted reimbursement for postage (it was $3.81).

Thanks again,

Robin

On 3/16/07, Janice Schultz wrote:

The following are free to the first respondent(s):

Death Records of Pioneer Missouri Women, 1808-1853

Missouri Land Claims, with a new index by Patricia Chadwell

Missouri Heritage by Lew Larkin Missouri Genealogical Gleanings, volume 4 by Sherida Eddlemon (2 copies)

Missouri Genealogical Gleanings, volume 3 by Sherida Eddlemon

Missouri Genealogical Records & Abstracts, volume 1 by Sherida Eddlemon

St. Joseph State Hospital Number 2, Buchanan County, Missouri: Extracted from the 1900 Census of Buchanan County, Missouri

Buchanan County Missouri Abstracts of Wills and Administrations From Books "A" and "B" 1839-1857

Gone to Missouri: From Whence They Came - To Where & When (3 copies)

United States Land Sales In Missouri: Springfield Land Office Abstracts 1835-1846 (2 copies)

Book of Obituaries - Missouri - Book 2 compiled by Lucretia L. St. John

We Remember: A Biographical Project of the Civil War Round Table of Kansas City

Missouri Miscellany, volume VII by Mrs. Howard Woodruff

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness: Nodaway County, Missouri: A Black History, 1840-1940

Janice Schultz, Genealogy Librarian Mid-Continent Public Library [email protected] -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/ge Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal.

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I work in Anderson. Could I possibly help?

-----Original Message----- From: "Mary K. Mannix" To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:07:46 -0400 Subject: [Genealib] anybody work in Indianapolis

Looking for a quick favor ... thanks! Mary

-- Mary K. Mannix Maryland Room Manager C. Burr Artz Public Library Frederick County Public Libraries Frederick, MD and Chair, ALA\RUSA\History Section ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070326/81df3ab8/ attachment.html From tluscombe at mckinneytexas.org Mon Mar 26 18:03:43 2007 From: tluscombe at mckinneytexas.org (Tracy Luscombe) Date: Mon Mar 26 18:04:35 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Searching for a book Message-ID: <45255A04888B1047B7266192603F135BAB1E68@mckmail1.ds.mckinneytexas.org>

I was contacted by a patron who found a web site where a researcher had posted a lot of information about this patron's surname. One of the sources cited on the web site is called A Guide to Arcadians in Maryland by Greg Wood(s). I have not been able to find this book in WorldCat. Does anyone out there own the book?

Tracy E. Luscombe

Genealogy Librarian

McKinney Memorial Public Library

101 E. Hunt Street McKinney, TX 75069 [email protected]

972-547-7343

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The Maryland Historical Society Library has this book along with it's supplement. Their OPAC is at http://207.67.203.54/M60006Staff/OPAC/Index.asp

Happy Hunting, Leslie

At 05:03 PM 3/26/2007 -0500, you wrote: >Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: >multipart/alternative; boundary="=_reb-r03AFFFDB-t46084371" I was >contacted by a patron who found a web site where a researcher had posted a >lot of information about this patron’s surname. One of the sources >cited on the web site is called A Guide to Arcadians in Maryland by Greg >Wood(s). I have not been able to find this book in WorldCat. Does anyone >out there own the book? Tracy E. Luscombe Genealogy Librarian >McKinney Memorial Public Library 101 E. Hunt Street McKinney, TX 75069 >[email protected] 972-547-7343 The material in this >e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual to whom it is >addressed and may contain information that is confidential, privileged, >and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the >intended recipient, be advised that the unauthorized review, use, >disclosure, duplication, distribution, or the taking of any action in >reliance on this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received >this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return email and >destroy all electronic and paper copies of the original message and any >attachments immediately. Please note that neither City of McKinney nor >the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your >responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Thank You. >______genealib mailing list >[email protected] >http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib *********************************************************************** Leslie Stapleton, Librarian DRT Library at the Alamo P. O. Box 1401 San Antonio, Texas 78295-1401 Telephone: 210 225-1071 E-Mail: [email protected] Fax: 210 212-8514 URL: http://www.drtl.org ***********************************************************************

From tluscombe at mckinneytexas.org Mon Mar 26 18:16:19 2007 From: tluscombe at mckinneytexas.org (Tracy Luscombe) Date: Mon Mar 26 18:16:37 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Thanks for the book hunting Message-ID: <45255A04888B1047B7266192603F135BAB1E72@mckmail1.ds.mckinneytexas.org>

Thanks to several people who helped me find the book about Acadians in Maryland. A correct spelling of key words usually turns up a better list of results. :-)

Tracy E. Luscombe

Genealogy Librarian

McKinney Memorial Public Library

101 E. Hunt Street

McKinney, TX 75069 [email protected]

972-547-7343

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Tracy, try Worldcat again, but this time leave the "R" out of Acadians. There are 56 libraries listed.

Honey Ryan

Reference Librarian

Georgia History & Genealogy

Live Oak Public Libraries

Savannah, GA 31401

912-652-3697 [email protected]

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tracy Luscombe Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 6:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Searching for a book

I was contacted by a patron who found a web site where a researcher had posted a lot of information about this patron's surname. One of the sources cited on the web site is called A Guide to Arcadians in Maryland by Greg Wood(s). I have not been able to find this book in WorldCat. Does anyone out there own the book?

Tracy E. Luscombe

Genealogy Librarian

McKinney Memorial Public Library

101 E. Hunt Street

McKinney, TX 75069 [email protected]

972-547-7343

The material in this e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, privileged, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that the unauthorized review, use, disclosure, duplication, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return email and destroy all electronic and paper copies of the original message and any attachments immediately. Please note that neither City of McKinney nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Thank You. ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070326/ b76e4522/attachment.html From crscott at HeritageBooks.com Tue Mar 27 10:45:25 2007 From: crscott at HeritageBooks.com (Craig Scott) Date: Tue Mar 27 10:45:32 2007 Subject: E: [Genealib] Thanks for the book hunting In-Reply-To: <45255A04888B1047B7266192603F135BAB1E72@mckmail1.ds.mckinneytexas.org> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

A Guide to Acadians in Maryland in the 18th and 19th Centuries by Gregory A. Wood is available from the following source:

Maryland Acadian Studies

Gregory A. Wood

11725 Kingtree Street

Wheaton, MD 20902

301-933-5491

C.

Craig R. Scott, CG

President and CEO

Heritage Books, Inc.

65 East Main Street

Westminster, MD 21157

800 876-6103 [email protected]

2373 books in print and growing. Visit www.HeritageBooks.com

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The following are free to who(m)ever wants to have them. Postage free - we want to get them to you!

Westmoreland History (Westmoreland Co. PA) - 8 issues 1997-2000

Transactions/Annual Report of the Western Reserve Historical Society issues 100-104 inclusive, 1919-1922.

From jshappee at lib.az.us Tue Mar 27 16:06:56 2007 From: jshappee at lib.az.us (Judy Shappee) Date: Tue Mar 27 16:07:51 2007 Subject: [Genealib] free to good home In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

We are interested.

Judy Shappee Genealogy Collection Arizona State Library

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Larry Naukam Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] free to good home

The following are free to who(m)ever wants to have them. Postage free - we want to get them to you!

Westmoreland History (Westmoreland Co. PA) - 8 issues 1997-2000

Transactions/Annual Report of the Western Reserve Historical Society issues 100-104 inclusive, 1919-1922. ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib From jshappee at lib.az.us Tue Mar 27 16:13:53 2007 From: jshappee at lib.az.us (Judy Shappee) Date: Tue Mar 27 16:14:40 2007 Subject: [Genealib] free to good home In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]><00cc01c77099$9f06aaf0$3102060a@rp l.org> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

I should have said that this is the item we want:

Westmoreland History (Westmoreland Co. PA) - 8 issues 1997-2000

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Judy Shappee Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 1:07 PM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: RE: [Genealib] free to good home

We are interested.

Judy Shappee Genealogy Collection Arizona State Library

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Larry Naukam Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] free to good home

The following are free to who(m)ever wants to have them. Postage free - we want to get them to you!

Westmoreland History (Westmoreland Co. PA) - 8 issues 1997-2000

Transactions/Annual Report of the Western Reserve Historical Society issues 100-104 inclusive, 1919-1922 From ehayes at lclsonline.org Tue Mar 27 16:56:35 2007 From: ehayes at lclsonline.org (Elaine Hayes) Date: Tue Mar 27 16:56:59 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Free University of Denver yearbooks Message-ID:

Hello, I have 4 University of Denver "Kynewisbok" yearbooks for 1974,1975,1976, & 1977 to give away. I'd prefer to give them to a Colorado library if anyone is interested. They are in perfect condition. Let me know. Elaine

Elaine Jones Hayes Special Collections Librarian - Family & Local History Assistant Manager - Reference Services Laramie County Library System 2800 Central Avenue Cheyenne, Wyoming 82001 [email protected] 307-634-3561 x132

"There is a history in all men's lives." -- William Shakespeare

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Elaine,

If you can't find a home out west for these, we'd be happy to take them. We already have 1943 and 1965 to 1967 editions of the Kynewisbok in our collection, so your issues would have company.

If you'd like, we're happy to reimburse postage.

Thanks for your consideration!

Don Litzer Reference Librarian, The Genealogy Center Allen County Public Library 900 Library Plaza Fort Wayne, Indiana 46802 e-mail: [email protected] phone (reference desk): 260.421.1225

>>> [email protected] 3/27/2007 4:56 PM >>> Hello, I have 4 University of Denver "Kynewisbok" yearbooks for 1974,1975,1976, & 1977 to give away. I'd prefer to give them to a Colorado library if anyone is interested. They are in perfect condition. Let me know. Elaine

Elaine Jones Hayes Special Collections Librarian - Family & Local History Assistant Manager - Reference Services Laramie County Library System 2800 Central Avenue Cheyenne, Wyoming 82001 [email protected] 307-634-3561 x132

"There is a history in all men's lives." -- William Shakespeare

From syparker at imbris.com Wed Mar 28 11:57:01 2007 From: syparker at imbris.com (Sandra) Date: Wed Mar 28 11:57:21 2007 Subject: [Genealib] free to good home References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <008e01c77151$be7ed020$c38312d8@toshibauser>

Larry, Our Society would love to have those. Sandra Yorkell-Parker BCGS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Naukam" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:59 AM Subject: [Genealib] free to good home

> The following are free to who(m)ever wants to have them. Postage free - we > want to get them to you! > > Westmoreland History (Westmoreland Co. PA) - 8 issues 1997-2000 > > Transactions/Annual Report of the Western Reserve Historical Society > issues > 100-104 inclusive, 1919-1922. > > > > > ______> genealib mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib

From bvelke at archivecdbooksusa.com Wed Mar 28 12:46:33 2007 From: bvelke at archivecdbooksusa.com (Bob Velke) Date: Wed Mar 28 12:47:00 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Free to a good home: Cleveland Congregationalists Message-ID: <[email protected]>

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No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/736 - Release Date: 3/27/2007 4:38 PM From SWoodard at daytonmetrolibrary.org Wed Mar 28 13:53:38 2007 From: SWoodard at daytonmetrolibrary.org (Shawna Woodard) Date: Wed Mar 28 13:53:41 2007 Subject: [Genealib] two free genealogy books, Sneeds and Suttons Message-ID: <[email protected]>

1. Up for grabs, free, with preference given to a Texas or Louisiana library:

"Decendants of Sebron Travis 'Cap' Sneed and Sarah Hornsby 'Mammy' Sneed: Sneyd 1992", by Corene J. Sneed and Wilna S. Sepulvado.

This is a 16 page list of descendants of the couple from Travis County, Texas. Places often mentioned are Austin, Texas, and Shreveport, Louisiana. Mentioned less often are Arkansas, North Carolina, and Florida. All the places I saw (at a glance) were in the South.

This is a spiral bound copy that includes two supplementary pages of "our newest descendents", that is to say, Sneeds born after the 1992 publication date.

Not listed on OCLC.

Don't blame me for the authors' various spellings of descendants!

2. Also up for grabs, free, with preference given to a Kentucky library: "The Sutton Family" - alt. title "The Sutton Family of Kentucky" by Dan P. Browning, indexed by James W. Sneed, 1960.

See OCLC # 2785468.

Along with Kentucky, New Jersey is frequently mentioned in this book. DeLoach and Sneed are some related families.

We already have copies of these books and just received doubles as donations.

Shawna Woodard

Genealogy Librarian

Dayton Metro Library

215 E. Third St.

Dayton, OH 45402

(937) 496-8653

Donations of compiled family histories, Montgomery County high school and college yearbooks, and money to add materials to our collection gladly accepted.

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I have found a good home for the DU yearbooks at Denver Public Library. Thanks everyone, Elaine

Elaine Jones Hayes Special Collections Librarian - Family & Local History Assistant Manager - Reference Services Laramie County Library System 2800 Central Avenue Cheyenne, Wyoming 82001 [email protected] 307-634-3561 x132

"There is a history in all men's lives." -- William Shakespeare

>>> [email protected] 3/28/2007 6:09:16 AM >>>

Elaine,

If you can't find a home out west for these, we'd be happy to take them. We already have 1943 and 1965 to 1967 editions of the Kynewisbok in our collection, so your issues would have company.

If you'd like, we're happy to reimburse postage.

Thanks for your consideration!

Don Litzer Reference Librarian, The Genealogy Center Allen County Public Library 900 Library Plaza Fort Wayne, Indiana 46802 e-mail: [email protected] phone (reference desk): 260.421.1225

>>> [email protected] 3/27/2007 4:56 PM >>> Hello, I have 4 University of Denver "Kynewisbok" yearbooks for 1974,1975,1976, & 1977 to give away. I'd prefer to give them to a Colorado library if anyone is interested. They are in perfect condition. Let me know. Elaine

Elaine Jones Hayes Special Collections Librarian - Family & Local History Assistant Manager - Reference Services Laramie County Library System 2800 Central Avenue Cheyenne, Wyoming 82001 [email protected] 307-634-3561 x132

"There is a history in all men's lives." -- William Shakespeare

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WHAT'S NEW IN RELIC

April 2007

The Ruth E. Lloyd Information Center for Genealogy and Local History (RELIC), Prince William Public Library System, Bull Run Regional Library, 8051 Ashton Avenue, Manassas, VA 20109. 703-792-4540 Email: [email protected] .

To read the latest lists of new materials in RELIC go to www.pwcgov.org/library/relic/index.htm , click on RELIC Resources then on New Acquisitions.

THE LATEST ON RELIC'S TEMPORARY MOVE TO CHINN PARK

Bull Run Regional Library will be closed from Monday, March 26 through Sunday June 10 for heating and air conditioning work. During April and May 2007 the RELIC staff will be stationed at the Chinn Park Regional Library along with a portion of our collection devoted to Prince William County history and genealogy. We will also utilize the considerable historical resources of the Chinn Park Library. We will continue to offer assistance to researchers by phone, email and in person, six days a week, including four evenings. Our phone number, 703-792-4540, will be forwarded to our new location at Chinn Park.

In addition to resources for Prince William history and genealogy (including maps, microfilm, photographic and print materials), we will have general tools for Virginia research (including statewide birth, marriage and death indexes), and access to a variety of sources for worldwide genealogical research (including interlibrary loan, rentals from the Family History Library, online genealogical subscriptions and CD-ROM databases).

The Chinn Park Regional Library is located at 13065 Chinn Park Drive at Prince William, Virginia, near the intersection of the Prince William Parkway and Old Bridge Road.

Our confirmed schedule at Chinn Park, beginning Monday, April 2, is Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday 10am-9pm, Friday and Saturday 10am-5pm. During that time we will be sharing space at the Management and Government Information Center (MAGIC), at the rear of the library.

During our absence from Bull Run, RELIC staff will conduct daytime programs at the three other full-service branches. See our upcoming program schedule below for details. We encourage you to continue to contact RELIC with your questions about genealogy and local history.

CHECK OUT OUR NEW WEB PAGE RELIC's web page has been updated recently. We hope you like the changes. We expect to be tweaking it for awhile (some sections are still unfinished). Your comments and suggestions are invited. To see it go to www.pwcgov.org/library/relic/index.htm .

TIME OUT FOR GENEALOGY:

Daytime Programs to Broaden Your Skills

Presented by the staff of RELIC, these programs are designed for persons who want to learn basic and specialized techniques of family history research but who may be unable to come to an evening program. Each session will last about one hour, including time for questions and answers. You may register for any in this series by calling RELIC at 703-792-4540 or by email at [email protected] . Here are the sessions and locations scheduled for April and May:

Monday, April 9, 2 p.m. - Genealogy 101: Family History for Beginners. Central Community Library (See also April 19 and 24)

Tuesday, April 17, 2 p.m. - Interlibrary Loan for Genealogists. Central Community Library

Thursday, April 19, 11 a.m. - Genealogy 101: Family History for Beginners. Potomac Community Library (Repeat of the April 9 program)

Tuesday, April 24, 2 p.m. - Genealogy 101: Family History for Beginners. Chinn Park Regional Library (Repeat of the April 9 program)

Tuesday, May 1, 11 a.m. - Missed by the Census Taker? Tips for those missed by census indexes. Chinn Park Regional Library

Monday, May 7, 2 p.m. - Finding Your Ancestor in the News. Sources to flesh out your ancestor's story. Central Community Library

Thursday, May 10, 11 a.m. - Not Found on a Passenger List? Tips for those missed by immigration indexes. Chinn Park Regional Library

Tuesday, May 22, 2 p.m. - A Genealogical Library on Your Desktop. Finding Your Family in Online Books. Central Community Library (Repeat of the March 14 program)

Tuesday, May 29, 11 a.m. - Electronic Resources for Family History. Sources available through PWPLS. Potomac Community Library

Thursday, May 31, 11 a.m. - An Overview of RELIC Services: Genealogy and Local History. Chinn Park Regional Library

THE GENEALOGY DOCTOR IS IN

For tips on starting your own research or to help solve a genealogical or historical problem that has stumped you, schedule a private, 30-minute visit with RELIC's Don Wilson. Generally the First and Third Thursdays of each month, 10:00 a.m. - 12 noon.

Upcoming available dates at Chinn Park Library

April 5, May 3, May 17.

Choice of times: 10:00, 10:45, 11:30 a.m.

April 19 (special times) -

Choice of times: 2:00, 2:45, 3:30 p.m.

Call RELIC at 703-792-4540 for a free appointment. If the scheduled dates are not convenient for you, you may request an alternate day/time.

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Hi, I remember last year there was an exchange of info on how others celebrated family history month by having a special event where the library was open after hours, and patrons could spend time on the computers, etc. looking for ancestors. I now am in a place where I think I could have something like that at this library, so I am asking those of you who have done something similar to this if you would post what you have done, etc. Thanks, Joyce Genealogy Libarian Largo Public Library Largo Florida

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For the past 2 years at Auckland City Library in Auckland New Zealand we have hosted a Family History lock in, from 8pm on Friday night til 8am Saturday morning. 40 people pay to stay overnight in the library and progress their family history research. We do this in partnership with the New Zealand Society of genealogists. They provide a number of "subject experts" It has become a very popular annual event at the library which is eagerly anticipated. Last year we were fully booked 2 months in advance.

Karen Kalopulu Family History Librarian Auckland City Libraries - T?maki P?taka K?rero

Email: [email protected] Ph: +64 9 307 7770 Fax: +64 9 307 7741 Location: L2, Central City Library, 44-46 Lorne Street, Auckland Postal: PO Box 4138, Auckland 1030, NEW ZEALAND http://www.aucklandcitylibraries.com/

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From: [email protected] [mailto:genealib- [email protected]] On Behalf Of Joyce BAK Sent: Thursday, 29 March 2007 9:35 To: [email protected] Subject: [Genealib] Family History Month "Open House"

Hi, I remember last year there was an exchange of info on how others celebrated family history month by having a special event where the library was open after hours, and patrons could spend time on the computers, etc. looking for ancestors. I now am in a place where I think I could have something like that at this library, so I am asking those of you who have done something similar to this if you would post what you have done, etc. Thanks, Joyce Genealogy Libarian Largo Public Library Largo Florida

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Any views expressed in this email may be those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Auckland City Libraries - Tamaki Pataka Korero. ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070329/333a0169/ attachment.html From Vanessa.Smith at cityofhouston.net Wed Mar 28 19:54:17 2007 From: Vanessa.Smith at cityofhouston.net (Smith, Vanessa - HPL) Date: Wed Mar 28 19:54:26 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Family History Month "Open House" Message-ID: <0BD1505F7EB5114B9956F32D699303C901846C76@611WEX03>

Joyce,

Clayton Library has a large body of volunteers, the Clayton Library Friends. Each year near Halloween, we invite them to a lock-in, after hours, from 6:00-9:00 PM. Our staff members host the event and provide a meal and other refreshments. We decorate elaborately to make it more fun--usually with the Halloween theme. The staff has even worn costumes in the past. We have sometimes been able to give away free photocopies (we use our unclaimed lost & found copy cards).

This is chiefly a way to recognize the volunteers' many contributions and show them how much we appreciate their service to our library.They all seem to really enjoy themselves and it's a treat for us to interact with them in a more casual setting.

Vanessa Smith, Sr. LSS Microfilm Dept. Supervisor, Clayton Library, Center for Genealogical Research Houston, TX

-----Original Message----- From: Joyce BAK To: [email protected] Sent: 3/28/07 4:35 PM Subject: [Genealib] Family History Month "Open House"

Hi, I remember last year there was an exchange of info on how others celebrated family history month by having a special event where the library was open after hours, and patrons could spend time on the computers, etc. looking for ancestors. I now am in a place where I think I could have something like that at this library, so I am asking those of you who have done something similar to this if you would post what you have done, etc. Thanks, Joyce Genealogy Libarian Largo Public Library Largo Florida

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TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. <> From rgdom1 at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 09:45:31 2007 From: rgdom1 at gmail.com (Robin Dombrowsky) Date: Thu Mar 29 09:45:34 2007 Subject: [Genealib] NGS - hotel Message-ID:

Is anyone going to NGS this year who might want to share a room and save costs? My mother passed away about eight weeks ago and things have been a bit hectic. I am supposed to go, but was only able to get a Sunday to Wednesday at the conference hotel in early January and haven't been able to really look since and everything is pretty booked. I may end up staying in my rental car for the duration, but thought I'd check and see if anyone may be interested in sharing some space for a few days.

Robin

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The Carlsbad City Library is still having problems with AncestryLibraryEdition. Randomly while in AncestryLibraryEdition, Internet Explorer closes down. Are others still having problems?

Thanks,

Mary Van Orsdol Genealogy Librarian Carlsbad City Library 1250 Carlsbad Village Drive Carlsbad, CA 92008 (760) 434-2930 [email protected]

From ksmith at aapld.org Thu Mar 29 12:56:58 2007 From: ksmith at aapld.org (Kristen Smith) Date: Thu Mar 29 12:56:39 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Canadian Border Crossings on Ancestry LE? Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Does anyone know if and when the new Canadian Border Crossings, 1895-1956 database will be available in Ancestry LE? I've only been able to find the new database in the Ancestry.com personal subscription. See News Release below:

Ancestry.com News Release:

"Ancestry.com, the world's largest online resource for family history, today announced the addition of the first and only online collection of more than 4 million names of individuals who crossed the U.S.-Canadian border between 1895 and 1956. These historical records are the latest addition to Ancestry.com's Immigration Records Collection, which also includes more than 100 million names from the largest online collection of U.S. passenger lists, spanning 1820 to 1960."

Thanks,

Kristen Newton Smith, M.L.S.

Reference Librarian

Algonquin Area Public Library

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>The Carlsbad City Library is still having problems with AncestryLibraryEdition. Randomly while in AncestryLibraryEdition, Internet Explorer closes down. Are others still having problems? We are certainly having the same problem, and I hear from our IT people that Ancestry claims the problem is on our end, not theirs. I'm having trouble believing that's accurate, considering the messages on this list.

Tim

Tim Herrmann Kentucky History Specialist Kenton County Public Library 502 Scott Street Covington KY 41011 859-962-4060 ext. 4232 (office) 859-962-4070 (Kentucky Reference Desk)

"Be not ashamed of mistakes and thus make them crimes." - Confucius

From genehunter at verizon.net Fri Mar 30 04:58:42 2007 From: genehunter at verizon.net (Genehunter) Date: Fri Mar 30 04:59:08 2007 Subject: [Genealib] NGS - hotel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004001c772a9$9dd32b10$2d01a8c0@homebase>

I haven't seen anyone suggest looking in Williamsburg for accommodations. The conference center is a simple, straight-shot, 45-minute drive down I-64. Maybe you could squeeze in a walk down Duke of Gloucester Street in the historic area (free since it is a public street), or maybe even a few hours at the Jamestown settlement. After all, the conference logo promotes the Jamestown 400th.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robin Dombrowsky Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:46 AM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: [Genealib] NGS - hotel

Is anyone going to NGS this year who might want to share a room and save costs? My mother passed away about eight weeks ago and things have been a bit hectic. I am supposed to go, but was only able to get a Sunday to Wednesday at the conference hotel in early January and haven't been able to really look since and everything is pretty booked. I may end up staying in my rental car for the duration, but thought I'd check and see if anyone may be interested in sharing some space for a few days.

Robin -- Robin D. Dombrowsky

Head of Adult Services

Palm Harbor Library

Palm Harbor, FL 34683 727-785-9268

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I will be out of the office starting 03/30/2007 and will not return until 04/02/2007.

If you require more immediate assistance, please contact AskUs, our e-mail reference service at [email protected] or call our Information Desk at 905-815-2044 during business hours.

From RRoberts at cslib.org Fri Mar 30 08:50:29 2007 From: RRoberts at cslib.org (Richard Roberts) Date: Fri Mar 30 08:47:48 2007 Subject: [Genealib] CT State Library extra hours and open house April 25 for Regional Genealogical Conference Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Special Hours for Early Birds to the New England Regional Genealogical Conference!

For those coming to Hartford early for the New England Regional Genealogical Conference (April 26 - 29 at the Connecticut Convention Center and the Marriott Hartford Downtown), www.nergc.org, and others wanting extra research time, the State Library?s History and Genealogy Unit will remain open until 8:00 p.m. on Wednesday, April 25. There will be an extra retrieval of archival and special collections materials at 6:00 p.m. And to sustain researchers in their endeavors, light refreshments will be served from 5:30-6:30 p.m. in Memorial Hall of the Museum of Connecticut History. For those not familiar with the History and Genealogy Unit, orientation tours will be held on the same day at 10:00 a.m. and 2:00 and 5:30 p.m.

The Library will be open regular hours Thursday and Friday, April 26 and 27 from 9:00 until 5:00 and on Saturday, April 28 from 9:00 until 2:00.

For more information about the History and Genealogy Unit's resources and services, see the History and Genealogy Web page http://www.cslib.org/handg.htm and the State Library's Research Resources page, http://www.cslib.org/handg.htm Richard C. Roberts Unit Head, History & Genealogy Connecticut State Library 231 Capitol Ave. Hartford, CT 06106-1537 (860) 757-6580 FAX (860) 757-6677 http://www.cslib.org/handg.htm From famrsearch at aol.com Fri Mar 30 10:26:23 2007 From: famrsearch at aol.com ([email protected]) Date: Fri Mar 30 10:26:37 2007 Subject: [Genealib] NGS - hotel In-Reply-To: <004001c772a9$9dd32b10$2d01a8c0@homebase> References: <004001c772a9$9dd32b10$2d01a8c0@homebase> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Robin

This is from today's NGS newsletter

" The exhibit hall is sold out, as are the Marriott, Omni, and Crowne Plaza Hotels. However, rooms are still available at the Radisson Hotel, 301 W. Franklin Street, Richmond, VA. For reservations call 888-201-1718. The Radisson has competitive rates and is eight blocks west of the Richmond Convention Center. "

They say they will run bosses to the center from the Radison.

Julia Coldren-Walker

Is anyone going to NGS this year who might want to share a room and save costs? My mother passed away about eight weeks ago and things have been a bit hectic. I am supposed to go, but was only able to get a Sunday to Wednesday at the conference hotel in early January and haven't been able to really look since and everything is pretty booked. I may end up staying in my rental car for the duration, but thought I'd check and see if anyone may be interested in sharing some space for a few days.

Robin

-- Robin D. Dombrowsky Head of Adult Services Palm Harbor Library Palm Harbor, FL 34683 727-785-9268 ______genealib mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib ______AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070330/ d54e49b4/attachment.html From RRoberts at cslib.org Fri Mar 30 13:44:27 2007 From: RRoberts at cslib.org (Richard Roberts) Date: Fri Mar 30 13:41:37 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Godfrey Memorial Library has extended hours for NERGC Message-ID: <[email protected]>

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Dear Richard,

We received your email announcement this morning about the CT State Library having extended hours around the NERG Conference. We are happy to inform you and those on your mailing list that Godfrey Memorial Library will also have extended hours for researchers! We will be open from 9am to 8pm on April 25, 26, and 27 and April 28 from 9am to 1pm. Please stop by and see visit us!

Sincerely,

Christine LeFoll Godfrey Memorial Library 134 Newfield Street Middletown, CT 06457 Phone:(860) 346-4375 Fax:(860) 347-9874 [email protected] www.godfrey.org

Richard C. Roberts Unit Head, History & Genealogy Connecticut State Library 231 Capitol Ave. Hartford, CT 06106-1537 (860) 757-6580 FAX (860) 757-6677 http://www.cslib.org/handg.htm

From John.LaMont at spl.org Fri Mar 30 13:54:32 2007 From: John.LaMont at spl.org (John LaMont) Date: Fri Mar 30 13:54:57 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Request for scan Message-ID: <[email protected]>

We are missing our copy of The American Genealogist, Vol. 81, No. 2 and have a patron interested in the article on pg. 132 (John Cole and Family of Plymouth . . . , by Eugene Cole Zubrinsky).

I'm hoping someone could scan or fax the article for me. If so, e-mail me direct.

Thanks,

John LaMont Librarian - Genealogy History, Travel & Maps The Seattle Public Library

From John.LaMont at spl.org Fri Mar 30 15:02:57 2007 From: John.LaMont at spl.org (John LaMont) Date: Fri Mar 30 15:03:12 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Request for scan Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Request satisfied thanks to Suzanne Levy - Fairfax City.

Thanks,

John LaMont Librarian - Genealogy History, Travel & Maps The Seattle Public Library

. . . The American Genealogist, Vol. 81, No. 2, pg. 132 (John Cole and Family of Plymouth . . . , by Eugene Cole Zubrinsky).

From tkemp at mail.newsbank.com Fri Mar 30 15:38:24 2007 From: tkemp at mail.newsbank.com (Kemp, Tom) Date: Fri Mar 30 15:37:35 2007 Subject: [Genealib] IL State Genealogical Society Quarterly - Spring 2007 - Table of Contents Message-ID: <0E6B372E915C2342B2E1CF7FBAAA2FF506EB211C@NEMO.nbcorp.newsbank.com>

Illinois State Genealogical Society Quarterly. Spring 2007 (vol. 39, no. 1)

Table of Contents - List of articles Slavin, Timothy A. Archives of the Archdiocese of Chicago. pp. 6-9 Lowe, Jeanie. Legislative Forum. pp. 10-13 Weible, Cherie L. Illinois sources, 1840 State and Federal census returns. pp. 15-20. Kapustiak, Margaret M. More information from cemetery records: resources for filling in the details of your family's history. pp. 21-25. Schuetz, Marian Richter. Carroll and Ogle County obituary album. Part 1. pp. 28-34, 37-39.

Published by the Illinois State Genealogical Society: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsgs/

Tom

Thomas Jay Kemp

Blog: Genealogy Librarian News http://genlibrarian.blogspot.com/

Director, Genealogy Products NewsBank Inc. www.NewsBank.com www.GenealogyBank.com

[email protected]

Cell: 860.218.5479

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Yes. We have had problems with Ancestry Library Edition for about 20 days now.

Shawna Woodard Genealogy Librarian Dayton Metro Library 215 E. Third St. Dayton, OH 45402 (937) 496-8653 Donations of compiled family histories, Montgomery County high school and college yearbooks, and money to add materials to our collection gladly accepted. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:genealib- [email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 12:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: genealib Digest, Vol 42, Issue 32

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Message: 1 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 09:40:32 -0700 From: "Mary Van Orsdol" Subject: [Genealib] AncestryLibraryEdition Problems To: Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

The Carlsbad City Library is still having problems with AncestryLibraryEdition. Randomly while in AncestryLibraryEdition, Internet Explorer closes down. Are others still having problems?

Thanks,

Mary Van Orsdol Genealogy Librarian Carlsbad City Library 1250 Carlsbad Village Drive Carlsbad, CA 92008 (760) 434-2930 [email protected]

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Message: 2 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:56:58 -0500 From: "Kristen Smith" Subject: [Genealib] Canadian Border Crossings on Ancestry LE? To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Does anyone know if and when the new Canadian Border Crossings, 1895-1956 database will be available in Ancestry LE? I've only been able to find the new database in the Ancestry.com personal subscription. See News Release below:

Ancestry.com News Release:

"Ancestry.com, the world's largest online resource for family history, today announced the addition of the first and only online collection of more than 4 million names of individuals who crossed the U.S.-Canadian border between 1895 and 1956. These historical records are the latest addition to Ancestry.com's Immigration Records Collection, which also includes more than 100 million names from the largest online collection of U.S. passenger lists, spanning 1820 to 1960."

Thanks,

Kristen Newton Smith, M.L.S.

Reference Librarian

Algonquin Area Public Library

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>The Carlsbad City Library is still having problems with AncestryLibraryEdition. Randomly while in AncestryLibraryEdition, Internet Explorer closes down. Are others still having problems?

We are certainly having the same problem, and I hear from our IT people that Ancestry claims the problem is on our end, not theirs. I'm having trouble believing that's accurate, considering the messages on this list.

Tim

Tim Herrmann Kentucky History Specialist Kenton County Public Library 502 Scott Street Covington KY 41011 859-962-4060 ext. 4232 (office) 859-962-4070 (Kentucky Reference Desk)

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Message: 4 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:58:42 -0400 From: "Genehunter" Subject: RE: [Genealib] NGS - hotel To: "'Librarians Serving Genealogists'" Message-ID: <004001c772a9$9dd32b10$2d01a8c0@homebase> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I haven't seen anyone suggest looking in Williamsburg for accommodations. The conference center is a simple, straight-shot, 45-minute drive down I-64. Maybe you could squeeze in a walk down Duke of Gloucester Street in the historic area (free since it is a public street), or maybe even a few hours at the Jamestown settlement. After all, the conference logo promotes the Jamestown 400th.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robin Dombrowsky Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:46 AM To: Librarians Serving Genealogists Subject: [Genealib] NGS - hotel

Is anyone going to NGS this year who might want to share a room and save costs? My mother passed away about eight weeks ago and things have been a bit hectic. I am supposed to go, but was only able to get a Sunday to Wednesday at the conference hotel in early January and haven't been able to really look since and everything is pretty booked. I may end up staying in my rental car for the duration, but thought I'd check and see if anyone may be interested in sharing some space for a few days.

Robin

-- Robin D. Dombrowsky

Head of Adult Services

Palm Harbor Library

Palm Harbor, FL 34683 727-785-9268

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I will be out of the office starting 03/30/2007 and will not return until 04/02/2007.

If you require more immediate assistance, please contact AskUs, our e-mail reference service at [email protected] or call our Information Desk at 905-815-2044 during business hours.

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Message: 6 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:50:29 -0400 From: "Richard Roberts" Subject: [Genealib] CT State Library extra hours and open house April 25 for Regional Genealogical Conference To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Special Hours for Early Birds to the New England Regional Genealogical Conference!

For those coming to Hartford early for the New England Regional Genealogical Conference (April 26 - 29 at the Connecticut Convention Center and the Marriott Hartford Downtown), www.nergc.org, and others wanting extra research time, the State Library???s History and Genealogy Unit will remain open until 8:00 p.m. on Wednesday, April 25. There will be an extra retrieval of archival and special collections materials at 6:00 p.m. And to sustain researchers in their endeavors, light refreshments will be served from 5:30-6:30 p.m. in Memorial Hall of the Museum of Connecticut History. For those not familiar with the History and Genealogy Unit, orientation tours will be held on the same day at 10:00 a.m. and 2:00 and 5:30 p.m.

The Library will be open regular hours Thursday and Friday, April 26 and 27 from 9:00 until 5:00 and on Saturday, April 28 from 9:00 until 2:00.

For more information about the History and Genealogy Unit's resources and services, see the History and Genealogy Web page http://www.cslib.org/handg.htm and the State Library's Research Resources page, http://www.cslib.org/handg.htm Richard C. Roberts Unit Head, History & Genealogy Connecticut State Library 231 Capitol Ave. Hartford, CT 06106-1537 (860) 757-6580 FAX (860) 757-6677 http://www.cslib.org/handg.htm

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Robin

This is from today's NGS newsletter

" The exhibit hall is sold out, as are the Marriott, Omni, and Crowne Plaza Hotels. However, rooms are still available at the Radisson Hotel, 301 W. Franklin Street, Richmond, VA. For reservations call 888-201-1718. The Radisson has competitive rates and is eight blocks west of the Richmond Convention Center. "

They say they will run bosses to the center from the Radison.

Julia Coldren-Walker

Is anyone going to NGS this year who might want to share a room and save costs? My mother passed away about eight weeks ago and things have been a bit hectic. I am supposed to go, but was only able to get a Sunday to Wednesday at the conference hotel in early January and haven't been able to really look since and everything is pretty booked. I may end up staying in my rental car for the duration, but thought I'd check and see if anyone may be interested in sharing some space for a few days.

Robin

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From lnaukam at mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us Fri Mar 30 16:21:04 2007 From: lnaukam at mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us (Larry Naukam) Date: Fri Mar 30 16:21:22 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry problems In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Our problems with the Ancestry Library edition continue, and indeed have gotten worse.

This morning we cannot even run a search and get results, without the browser crashing. On the staff terminals we can restart the browser with a click, which is bothersome enough. But on the patron PC's we have to reboot and re-login, which is taking FAR too much time that could otherwise be used for public service.

We called Ancestry's tech support; they were very polite and tried to be helpful. I know that they monitor this list, so please pay attention:

We are paying a lot of good money for access, and neither we nor the public can use the product for more than 15 seconds at a time.

The person I talked to in tech support mentioned that there have no reports of difficulties using IE 7. We cannot do this per our library's IT dept. Maybe it is an administrator account vs. a user account. Well, the reply to that one is, patron users cannot be administrators, and also it has never crashed on the FHC computers, where all the users are users and not admins!

We sincerely hope that this problem, which does not seem to have been limited to just us, is remedied soon.

From jgaronzi at genealogical.com Fri Mar 30 16:35:20 2007 From: jgaronzi at genealogical.com (Joe Garonzik) Date: Fri Mar 30 16:35:56 2007 Subject: [Genealib] VIRGINIA TITLES FROM GENEALOGICAL.COM Message-ID:

Since 2004 we have been publishing works that are pivotal to researching Virginia genealogy during the colonial period. We launched the fourth edition of ADVENTURERS OF PURSE AND PERSON, VIRGINIA 1607-1624-25, compiled and edited by John Frederick Dorman, in 2004. Volume Two in that series came out in 2005. The third and final volume is now available.

Last year we published a small book by Virginia Davis entitled, JAMESTOWNE ANCESTORS, which is a commemorative roster of persons who lived in Jamestown prior to 1700.

In January, we published on CD-ROM a vast collection of family histories, entitled SOUTHSIDE VIRGINIA GENEALOGIES, by John W. Pritchett. This distinguished product contains first-person genealogical essays on roughly 400 Southside families, virtually all of which begin before the American Revolution.

Finally, just this week we released a major reference work on the history, geography, and genealogy of the first generation of persons to live along Virginia's James or York Rivers. VIRGINIA IMMIGRANTS AND ADVENTURERS, 1607-1635: A BIOGRAPHICAL DICTIONARY, by Martha W. McCartney, assembles in a single volume every significant detail concerning the first generation of individuals who settled in this area--5,500 persons in all--and the settlements ("hundreds") they established.

For more information about these unique Virginia titles, which libraries may wish to have on hand in connection with the upcoming 400th anniversary of the founding of Jamestown, please click on the following links:

ADVENTURERS OF PURSE AND PERSON, VIRGINIA 1607-1624-25. Fourth Edition. Volume One (Families A-F) http://www.genealogical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&item_number=149 6

ADVENTURERS OF PURSE AND PERSON, VIRGINIA 1607-1624-25. Fourth Edition. Volume Two (Families G-P) http://www.genealogical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&item_number=149 7

ADVENTURERS OF PURSE AND PERSON, VIRGINIA 1607-1624-25. Fourth Edition. Volume Three (Families R-Z) http://www.genealogical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&item_number=149 8

JAMESTOWNE ANCESTORS, 1607-1699 http://www.genealogical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&item_number=138 1

SOUTHSIDE VIRGINIA GENEALOGIES http://www.genealogical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&item_number=754 0

VIRGINIA IMMIGRANTS AND ADVENTURERS, 1607-1635: A BIOGRAPHICAL DICTIONARY http://www.genealogical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&item_number=350 5

Best wishes,

Joe Garonzik Marketing Director Genealogical Publishing Company www.genealogical.com

From joyrichny at earthlink.net Sat Mar 31 01:52:27 2007 From: joyrichny at earthlink.net (Joy Rich) Date: Sat Mar 31 01:52:33 2007 Subject: [Genealib] "Charlotte, A Holocaust Memoir: Remembering Theresienstadt, As Shared with Robert A Warren" Message-ID: <012701c77358$c34c1cd0$6401a8c0@DELL>

The new, free e-book "Charlotte, A Holocaust Memoir: Remembering Theresienstadt, As Shared with Robert A Warren," is the first-person story of Charlotte Guthmann Opfermann, a survivor who was at Theresienstadt for twenty-three months. A description of the e- book and instructions for getting a copy of it via e-mail are at http://www.h-net.org/announce/show.cgi?ID=156096 .

Joy Rich Brooklyn, NY

From tkemp at mail.newsbank.com Sat Mar 31 02:08:44 2007 From: tkemp at mail.newsbank.com (Kemp, Tom) Date: Sat Mar 31 02:08:29 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Article abt new Genealogy Library - Muskogee, OK Public Library - Message-ID: <0E6B372E915C2342B2E1CF7FBAAA2FF506EB2278@NEMO.nbcorp.newsbank.com>

FYI: there was a nice article about the new genealogy room at the Muskogee Public Library.

See: http://genlibrarian.blogspot.com/2007/03/muskogee-ok-public-lilbrary-ope ns-new.html

You'll recall that longtime Genealogy Librarian Wally Waits retired from that library as of March 1st, just a few weeks ago.

He is still active in the work and even has his own blog: Muskogee History & Genealogy see: http://muskogeephoenixonline.com/blogs/WallyWaits/index.html

Congratulations to Wally on the opening of the genealogy collection's new home.

BTW I've just launched my own blog: Genealogy Librarian News at http://genlibrarian.blogspot.com/

Back in the late 90's I began the Genealogy Librarian News as an e-mail newsletter that later also had a print version for several years. That e-mail newsletter ran under several names until about 2002.

Tom

Thomas Jay Kemp

Director, Genealogy Products

NewsBank Inc. www.NewsBank.com www.GenealogyBank.com

Blog: Genealogy Librarian News http://genlibrarian.blogspot.com/

[email protected]

Cell: 860.218.5479

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Bob Mason, formerly librarian at the State Library of Pennsylvania in Harrisburg. He was well liked by genealogists.

See: http://genlibrarian.blogspot.com/2007/03/robert-p-mason-genealogy-librarian.html

Tom ------next part ------An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/pipermail/genealib/attachments/20070331/371864bf/ attachment.html From Heather.McLeland-Wieser at spl.org Sat Mar 31 11:50:53 2007 From: Heather.McLeland-Wieser at spl.org (Heather McLeland-Wieser) Date: Sat Mar 31 11:51:15 2007 Subject: [Genealib] Request for scan In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Thanks John.

>>> "John LaMont" 3/30/2007 12:02 PM >>> Request satisfied thanks to Suzanne Levy - Fairfax City.

Thanks,

John LaMont Librarian - Genealogy History, Travel & Maps The Seattle Public Library

. . . The American Genealogist, Vol. 81, No. 2, pg. 132 (John Cole and Family of Plymouth . . . , by Eugene Cole Zubrinsky).

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Reliquary's twenty-first issue has been posted.

You are invited to view and download the latest edition of Prince William Reliquary, a quarterly genealogical and historical magazine for Prince William County, Virginia. To view it requires version 7.0 of Adobe Acrobat, available as a free download.

http://www.pwcgov.org/library/relic, click on Prince William Reliquary.

Contents of the January 2007 issue include:

* Found! Two Lost Prince William County Wills, by Scott Parham. A transcript found in an 1872-73 chancery suit, recovers the lost wills of Alexander SINCLAIR (1748) and his son Robert (1758). An extensive list of heirs and legatees includes the surnames McCLAIN (McLAIN), TENNELL, CULSLAW (COLCLOUGH), FICKLIN(?), YOUNG, DAVIS, OSBURN (OSBOURN), HEATON, VANDEVENTER, MATTHIAS, DOWELL, MARALLEE, PURSELL (PURCELL), STEVENS, GAINES, ADAM, SMITH (James W.), McDANIEL, McINTOSH, SHUTT, BEARD, STRIBLING, HAMILTON, and TAYLOR.

* Robertson-Kidwell Family Bible Record. Bible printed in 1882. The family of Enoch Stafford ROBERTSON and wife Georgeanna KIDWELL of Prince William and Fairfax Counties, dates 1847-1932. * Dr. David C. Cline Business Ledger, 1911-1930 (con.), abstracted by Beverly Veness. A Dumfries physician's customers, surnames alphabetically from COVER to RATCLIFFE.

* Dumfries District Court Land Causes, 1793-1811 (con.), transcribed by William Balderson. The heirs of John HAMMITT deceased were sued by James SMITH over a lot in the town of Newport, 1800.

You may use Control+F to search the text for keywords of interest to you. Backfiles can be searched on Google using keyword(s) plus 'Reliquary.' Name indexes to volumes 1, 2, 3 and 4 are now posted online, as well as a topical guide to the first twenty issues.

We invite your comments and submissions.

P.S. - I must mention, in case you haven't heard - Bull Run Regional Library will be closed for heating and air conditioning work between March 26 and June 10. From April 2 until June 2, RELIC staff will be working at Chinn Park Regional Library, in MAGIC (the Management and Government Information Center), with a portion of the RELIC collection devoted to Prince William history and genealogy.

The Chinn Park Regional Library is located at 13065 Chinn Park Drive at Prince William, Virginia, near the intersection of the Prince William Parkway and Old Bridge Road.

Our confirmed schedule at Chinn Park, beginning Monday, April 2, is Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday 10am-9pm, Friday and Saturday 10am-5pm. Our phone number will remain 703-792-4540 during this time.

Donald L. Wilson, Virginiana Librarian

Ruth E. Lloyd Information Center (RELIC) for Genealogy and Local History normally at Bull Run Regional Library

8051 Ashton Avenue

Manassas, Virginia 20109

(703) 792-4540 www.pwcgov.org/library/ relic

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