240 Years of Ranching: Historical Research, Field Surveys, Oral Interviews, Significance Criteria, and Management Recommendation
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240 Years of Ranching: Historical Research, Field Surveys, Oral Interviews, Significance Criteria, and Management Recommendations for Ranching Districts and Sites in the San Diego Region Attachment I San Diego County Ranching Interviews Conducted and Prepared by Heather Thomson and Sue Wade Colorado Desert District Ranching Interviews ;Interview with Milton Angel by Heather Thomson - July 30, 2001 ;Interview with Roy Athey by Heather Thomson - June 01, 2001 ;Interview with Roy Birdsell by Heather Thomson and Chris Wray - June 06, 2001 ;Interview with Mike Martin by Heather Thomson - August 26, 2001 ;Interview with Albert Cary by Heather Thomson - 2006 ;Interview with Eddie Guacheno by Heather Thomson and Steve Van Wormer - May 18, 2004 ;Interview with Cynthia Kunkel by Heather Thomson - June 09, 2001 ;Interview with Craig Jasper by Heather Thomson - June 09, 2001 ;Interview with Kemp, Leach, Johnson by Heather Thomson and Sue Wade ;Interview with Jim Kemp at the Campbell Ranch by Heather Thomson and Sue Wade - March 18, 2004 ;Interview with Steve Luckman by Heather Thomson - March 22, 2003 ;Interview with Boots Paroli by Heather Thomson and Sue Wade - April 21, 2003 ;Interview with Mildred Paroli by Heather Thomson April 12, 2001 ;Interview with Charles and Ruth Sawday by Heather Thomson and Chris Wray - June 06, 2001 ;Interview with Charles Sawday at Warner’s Ranch by Heather Thomson and others - February 20, 2003 ;Interview with Bill Tulloch at Cuyamaca by Heather Thomson and Sue Wade - December 18, 2002 ;Interview with Willy Tellam by Heather Thomson - June 04, 2001 ;Interview with Jack & Daisy Graves by Heather Thomson - August 10, 2001 ;Interview with Mabel McCain by Heather Thomson - June 15, 2001 ;Interview with Alora Benton by Larry Freeman (SDHS) - July 07, 1962 ;Interview with Chalma Bailey by Edgar Hastings (SDHS) - September 10, 1958 ;Interview with Mr. and Mrs. Vermal Clark by William Seidel (CSP) - April 12, 1973 ;Interview with William Eugene Flinn by Edgar Hastings (SDHS) - August 28, 1957 ;Interview with Ben McManama by Priscilla Lyons (CSP) August 03, 1994 ;Interview with Charlie Ponchetti by William Seidel (CSP) - December 20, 1973 ;Interview with Lester Reed by Phil Brigandi - February 13 and July 27, 1983 ANGEL Milton and Bea Angel Coming overland from Missouri, James Newton Angel and his family arrived in California in 1880. They settled in Mesa Grande, taking up a homestead which they proved up in 1885. The Angels raised a family of eleven children, with eight sons, all over 6’ tall. Several of the Angel brothers went into the cattle business and by the early 1900’s were driving their cattle to winter pasture in Borrego Valley by way of Hellhole Canyon. They established a cattle camp somewhere in the vicinity of the current Palm Canyon Campground. Milton Angel (08/30/21-10/08/04) was a grading contractor and made his living running heavy equipment. He and his wife Bea (07/14/21- 07/25/2006) owned 1000 acres in Mesa Grande where he ran a herd of about 80 head of beef cattle. Kinship of Milton J. Angel Name Birth date Relationship with Milton Angel Angel, Jack Father Angel, Colonel Hector June 7, 1871 Half uncle Angel, Daniel Half 1st cousin once removed Angel, Henrietta 1909 Half 1st cousin Angel, Henry Newton November 24, 1889 Half uncle Angel, James Half 1st cousin once removed Angel, James Newton February 2, 1841 Grandfather Angel, Jane Half 1st cousin once removed Angel, Jesse Roy December 17, 1894 Half uncle Angel, John Granduncle Angel, Judith Gale October 19, 1947 Daughter Angel, Kathleen Half 1st cousin once removed Angel, Kenneth H March 1, 1917 Half 1st cousin Angel, Lester Amadon June 26, 1892 Half uncle Angel, Milton Gary November 12, 1939 Son Angel, Milton J. August 30, 1921 Self Angel, Phillip G. January 14, 1887 Half uncle Angel, Rodney Raymond February 20, 1943 Son Angel, Vance September 28, 1873 Half uncle Angel, Verde September 10, 1875 Half uncle Angel, Woodson Great-grandfather Carr, Cynthia Wife of half 1st cousin Dodge, Dorothy Bea July 14, 1921 Wife Dunham, Larry Son-in-law Feigel, Norman Husband half 1st cousin Haun, Henrietta 1852 Wife of the grandfather Jr., Vance Angel August 21, 1912 Half 1st cousin Marcy, Evelyn Wife of the half 1st cousin Miller, Trudy November 24, 1943 Daughter-in-law Parks, Della Wife of the half uncle Reid, Grace Wife of the half uncle Striek, Nellie September 9, 1890 Wife of the half uncle Angel Interview 07/30/2001 Milton and Bea Angel Interview with Heather Thomson The interview was conducted in Mesa Grande at the home of Milton and Bea Angel. Heather: I didn‟t research the Angel‟s too much, there are so many of you. If you could tell me a little bit about how your family history went. Who your Dad was, his Dad, etc. Milt: Tell you a little bit about that? Heather: Yes. Milt: My Grandfather was the first one over the Donner Pass after the Donner Party. Heather: His name was…..? Milt: James Newton. Heather: Okay, he was the very first of the Angels to come here? Milt: Of the Angels yeah. He was the first one. Didn‟t Kathy give you this information? Heather: I didn‟t talk to her yet. Milt: He settled up there at the home place. Had nine boys and two girls. Heather: Big tall guys right? Milt: Yeah, they all were big men. Most of them lived to be 94 years old. My Dad lived to be 88. He didn‟t make 94 but he made 88. I think one other one died a little younger than that from cement dust. Heather: Really? Milt: Cancer from cement dust. Heather: How did he get cancer from cement dust? Milt: Well, back when things were a little different, you‟d open a sack of cement and you‟d dump it. I mean, you didn‟t do like you do nowadays. It‟s all enclosed. Heather: What did he do for a living? Was he around cement all the time? Milt: No, just one time. He was more of a cowboy than anything. He had a ranch up here. He ran about 150 head of cow. He used to call us kids in when we were all young. I was about fourteen years old. I got along good with him. He was my drinking uncle. Heather: You don‟t drink do ya‟? Angel Interview 07/30/2001 Milt: Oh I have a drink on Friday night. One on a Saturday night. Anyway, he had land right over in Gopher Canyon. He‟d say, “Come on boys. We‟re gonna go round „em up.” We‟d bring them up here to the Rey River Ranch which is just past Lake Henshaw. He owned that ranch in there. My cousin and I rode from here one day from here to Gopher Canyon. In one day. Left here at 4:30 in the morning. Anyway, we‟d bring them right up the county road. Probably leading 6 to 8 cars through the herd, about 150 head. I‟d like to do it nowadays, I‟d love to put 150 head in the middle of the road and see what the people would do. Heather: They would be getting very angry. Milt: It would take us 2 days from Gopher Canyon to get back up here. In Gopher Canyon we‟d get up early. We didn‟t have trucks to haul them cattle with. Heather: My Mom said I was born 100 years too late. Milt: You got it, me too. I wish I could have lived when they were young boys. Anyway, we would go down there and gather the cattle, get them in a big bunch. When nightfall came, we‟d start riding around them like that and pretty soon the cattle would settle down and lay down. Then you get off and lean up against the tree and get a little shut eye. The next morning at daylight you better have them moving. Heather: How does going around in circles……… Milt: It settles them down. Just like a corral, artificial. Circling. You had some times that they tried to get away. If something spooked them at night, boy you had a problem. Heather: Your Mother would ride? Milt: Well, my Mother was the cook. It had to be in 1929 because my Uncle had a brand new Model A truck. They would take them all the way there. They had scales there and they had a slaughter house there. Heather: Your Mom rode with them. Milt: She would go along in the truck and she would know where to stop and she would cook dinner for us. Heather: Did any girls ever go? Milt: No, hell no. Girls were for being in the house. They didn‟t let any girls ride along like that in those days. Heather: Mrs. Kunkle was telling me that she went on a drive once. Milt: It‟s possible some did. There was a few women just did that kind of thing, but as a general rule, women would never do anything like that. Heather: So your Dad had cattle. Did you ever have cattle? Milt: I‟ve got 80 head. I‟ve got 80 head of cows. See, I own 1000 acres. Angel Interview 07/30/2001 Heather: All right here? Milt: No, there‟s only 7 acres right here. It all belongs to my kids now. Heather: Do any of them live on it? Milt: My daughter. She lives right over here where I was raised. On 160 acres over there. Heather: Where is that? Milt: Just down the road a little ways.