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No. 17, Thursday, December 8,1977 lAgrahayana 17, 1899 ( Saka)
Colu mns Oral Answers to Questions: •Starred Questions Nos. 331, 334, 335, 341 and 342 . . 1—24
Written Answers to Questions: Starrted Questions Nos. 326 to 330, 332, 333, 336 to 340 and 343 to 345 • • *...... 24—36 Unstarred Questions Nos. 3069 to 3071, 3073 to 3085, 3087 to 3092, 3094, 3095, 3097 to 3128, 3130 to 3146 and 3148 to 3205 36—158
Correcting Statements to USQ No. 682 dt. 17-11-1977 and USQ No. 731 dt. 17-11-1977...... 158—61
Re. Calling attention notices {Procedure) 162—64
Paper laid on the Table . 164
Calling attention to matter of urgent public importance— Reported disturbance in a Kanpur Textile Mill . . 165—91 Shri Kanwar Lai Gupta ...... 165—73 Shri Dhanik Lai Mandal...... 168-69 Shri Charan Singh...... 172—79, 190-91 Shri M. Ram Gopal Reddy . . . . 176- 77 Shri Manohar Lai . . . . 179—82 Shri Mukhtiar Singh Malik . . 183—86 Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu . . 186—90
Motion re. Steps for removal of economic backwardness of four districts of eastern Uttar Pradesh— Withdrawn — Shri Morarji Desai . 192—96 Shri Yadvendra Dutt 196—99
Public Accounts committee— ■ Thirty-second report . 200
Petition re. Export of Groundnut solvent extraction etc. . 200
♦The sign 4-marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. (ii)
C o l u m n s
Election to committee—
Governing body of Indian Council of Medicine Research . . 200-201
Multi-State Co-operative Societies Bill—'Introduced 201
Matters under Rule 377— (i) Acute shortage of Power in Bibar .... 202-203 (ii) Resentment due to non-resumption of Bhagalpur-Bihpur Rail and steams service ...... 204-205
Motion re. Report (1974) of Commission of Inquiry into the Dis- appearance of Netaji Subhas Chandrrf Bose .... 206— 56 Shri Dhirendranath Basu 206-207 Shri K. Mayathevar . 208— 11 Shri S. K. Sarkar 2 11— 14 Shrimati Chandravati . . 214— 18 Shri Saugata Roy . . . . . 218— 23 Shri Mritunjay Prasad Verma . . . 223— 30 Shri Chitta Basu ...... 230— 35 Dr. Karan Singh . . . 235— 39 Shri Tridib Chaudhuri 239-40 Prof. Dilip Chakravarty . 240— 43 Shri D. N. Tiwary 243— 48 Shri Narendra P. Nathwani 248— 50 Shri Bedabrata Barua . 250— 52 Prof. P. G. Mavalankar . . . 252— 56 t LOK SA BHA DEBATES
LOK SABHA Statement The available information in regard to Part (a) of the question for the period March Thursday, December 8, 1977 jAgraha,-an to Sept. 77 is given below :— 17, 1899 {Safa) ' ♦ate/Union Territory Number of Strikes(P)
The Lok Sabha met at Eh vert of the Clot h Andhra Pradesh 60 [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair]. Assam • 4 Bihar ♦ 167 ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS Gujarat ...... 79 Haryana • 15 MR. SPEAKER : Q.. No. 326 to 330 Himachal Pradesh 3 —Not here. Q. No. 331, Shri Chitta Basu. Jammu & Kashmir . 3 You. arc permanently here. Karnataka . . . . 45 Kerala . . . . . 94 SHRI CHITTA BASU : Yes, I am No. Madhya Pradesh no 1 to-day. Maharashtra . . . . 175 Manipur ..... — Orissa * 19 Punjab . . . . . 27 State-wise strikes during March Rajasthan . . . . 50 to November, 1977 Tamil Nada . . . . 122 Tripura . . . . . 1 •331. SHRI CHITTA BASU : Uctar Pradesh . . . . 104 SHRI KAN WAR LAL GUPTA : West Bengal . . . . 152 Will the Minister of PARLIAMEN- At & N. Islands. 4 TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR Chandigarh . . . . 2 be pleased to lay a statement showing : D elhi...... 15 G o a ...... 22 (a) the number of strikes in each State Pondichcrry . . . . 15 during March to Nov-mber, 1977 ; and Meghalaya . . . . — Lakshdweep 1 (b) how many strikes have been dec- Sikkim ..... — lared illegal ? D.N. Haveli . . . . 1 Nagaland . . . . — THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- Mizoram ..... — TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR (SHRI Arunachal Pradesh . — RAVINDRA VARMA) : (a) A state- ment is placed on the Table of the Sabha.
(b) The State Governments and Union Total Territories have been requested to furnish (P) Provisional and based on the basis the required information. The information of returns received in the Labour Bureau, Simla till 18th November, 1977. Returns is awaited and will be laid on the Table for October and November have rot of the Sabha in due course. yet been received. 3 Oral Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Oral Answers 4 SHR I CHITTA BASU : Sir, the reply mation is quite understandable; but the contains a long list of strikes in different Government has to collect information parts of the country totalling to about from sources which in this case, include 1,290. the State Governments and the Union Territories. After the receipt of the notice we try to collect the information; but May I know from the hon. Minister when the information does not come to whether he considers that all is not quiet us, we can either indulge in guess work in the industrial front to-day ? Would or be honest and tell the House that the h“ kindly let the H^useknsw the particular information has not reached and we reasons for the start of the industrial will lay it on the Table of the House unrest in the country to-day and also as and when it is received. As regards the mand xyi lost and the loss of production the question of strikes being declared due to these strikes all over the country? illegal by two or three State Governments, namely, U.P., M.P. and Haryana, his question seeks an answer from me on each one of these instances. It is not possible to deal with each case. But I shall certainly collect the information SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA : Sir, the and lay it on the table of the House. hon’ble Member is a very well informed Member and he. should know from the statistics that the position this year, com- pared to the position in the similar period before the Em ergency, is net so bad as ^ W T *T^!T I to cause anxiety. It is true that it is not encouraging. We do not want any case ^ sftTOTT ^ of industrial unrest. We want the causes of industrial unrest to be dealt with in lime so that production may not get ff I ar-M ^ ^fa *(V«llllf hampered. From that point of view the situation needs to be improved -and we jjo cfto sftr % srrcr-T w are not satisfied with the situation as it exists. As regards the question of man- ts r if days lost, during 1977 the mandays % s to ; a n < r ^ | f o r lost in t'\t State spiere accounted for about 80 per cent of the total mandays f f t , STPTCf sfTT wrcr § s i t | s f k lost whereas corresponding figures for 1976 arc about 91 per cent of the total -JlM tj I W W>T Tilv*! |[ for mandays lost. ^ 5 vi'Ni fr, sft ^ ^T^ff % 5RrTT 5 far O 1 thr p^int regarding loss of production 0.1 this I would need a separate notice. nfr 3ft ^r^ffor ^TT 'r r ff
SHRI CHITTA BASU : Sir, in reply w * stwwm for* 5t r k W ’f N t to part (b) of my question the Minister has been pleased to say that the information ^ 1 % ^ t o t ^rr^ETT g is being collected. Sir, the noticc had for w t w viFftM Tt cftir^%fvnT been sent earlier.
« f l r *n r f t I do not know how the Government ©f India or particularly the Labour VvTnr’T, fora- if IV qi for Ministry have so far not been able to obtain the information sought. This is for your information. Sir, may I know f t , ^ whether it is not a fact that several strikes have been declared illegal in U.P., Madh- difo> *rnr * 3n 4r, fw tr stttcpt ift the conce ned State Governments ? Fur- ther whether it is not contrary to t‘ie sra srfa ?rnt I principle or policy announced by the Central Labour Ministry ? SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA : The hon. Member has pointed out certain SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA : Sir, the factors, which he considers as contributory hon’ble Member’s impatience for infor- factors for the industrial unrest that 5 Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 ( SAKA ) Oral Answers
one secs in the country. There is absolutely disputes in all undertakings \Vhere there is no doubt that there are mixed motives an employer-employee relationship. It in all kinds of industrial action—in is quite right that the Industrial Disputes many cases of industrial action, to correct Act, as it exists, today,does not cover every myself—either on the part of workers such contingency and every such under- or on the part of the management, and taking. While undertaking a review of it might well be that there are some existing laws and preparing to introduce groups which are interested in disrupting before this House a comprehensive legisla- the industrial peace and making it difficult tion on this subject, we are certainly giving for the economy to advance. These are consideration to this question also with a opinions. But as far as the other question view to ensuring that all whose who are he asked about the Government’s attitude employed have the benefit of job security to convening a meeting of the parties and some machinery and means for settle- concerned to discuss ways and means ment of disputes. of ensuring industrial peacc and finding a machinery which would ensure industrial peace, is concerned, I would like to say SHRI R.V. SWAMINATHAN : In that the second part of the question is view of the fact that the hon. Minister has perhaps as important if not more impor- conceded that there is a deplorable condi- tant than the first part of the question. tion of industrial unrest in the country, Ail it is because wo believe that this May I know whether he is aware of the is important that we are at the moment fact that industrial unrest in Tamil Nadu engaged in a comprehensive revision of is worst and also some of the industries the Industrial Relations law so that like TVS Group, which are producing the machinery that exists for settlement anciljaries for automobile industry are crip- of disputes, like conciliation, adjudication, pled, as a result of which the entire auto- arbitration, etc. may be streamlined to mobile industry in India itself is crippled ? ensure quick settlement of disputes, so They are forced to import components that there may be less cause for indust- wasting valuable foreign exchange. May rial unrest. About the first part, I would I know whether the minister is taking any like to say that the suggestion to have an steps in this regard ? Industrial truce for a specific period has bee’i raised by me in the meetings SHRI RAVINDRA VAR MA: I of the Tripartite Committee as well as quite understand the hon. member’s the Tripartite Conference and we are at pride for the State he comes from. I am rhe moment attempting to find a basis sorry if I would be offending him by saying which would be acceptable to all parties that Tamilnadu is not the worst and it concerned for a period of industrial truce cannot claim the pride of place. Mahara- of the kind. shtra is responsible for 14% , Bihar 13%# West Bengali 2% and Tamilnadu is lagging behind with 9%. However, about the Dr. SUBRAMANIAM SWAMY: The TVS group, the hon. member is right that House, I am sure, is very happy to hear it passed through a very difficult and criti- that the machinery is being streamlined cal phase, but at the moment the strike and .ind that the Industrial Relations Bill will lock-out he referred to have ended, and pro- soon come forward. I want to draw the duction has started again. The Central attention of the Minister, through you, Sir, Government is constantly watching the to the fact that a number of strikes have situation, and taking such action as the i-iken place in places where the Industrial Central Government can do in the State Relations and Labour Laws have not been sphere. made applicable. For example in Univer- sity Campuses which are not strictly •lucational insit itutions like the Indian WWW : TOT Institute of Technology, Delhi which pro- duces like a factory and sells outside. Of ^ f% MiHia fwfir % course, during the Emergency, they have • • ven sold materials for water supply to the ^ qxr q- Municipal Corporation and to Maruti limited. But I would \ike to ask whether 375ft writ *rt ihe Labour Ministry is considering the % teli •w v*fl rl iestion of extending the labour laws and Industrial Disputes Act to educational insti- WfT I ? tutions of this type, so that the non-teach- ing staff can b* provided a machinery for settlement of disputes. tot w % forrc | ^ w d Sr qpr fr SHRI RAVINDRA VAR MA : The ( nix of the question that the hon. Member ? W JPPTC 5ZRFTT has raised is about job security as well as means and machinery for settlement of %■ f%tr % fiM K *TT 7 Cfrftl Avwueis, DECEMBER ^ 197? Oral 4n «^frs 8
n r w sro «ft vFt* * *fr sr%?r f*r% ^ 3r fSwi< v r T^t | f% ^r *T ^ S R F T T U*& ft* «illfl^t, s n m r v t v t t ^ ^ ^ 0 j f t r f x t t t v t t5*i ^ Sr ^ «IKs^Tir TO « r f « r + H f u r v f ! % f?JTT JRT qr^TVcIT S H R I R A V IN D R A V A R M A : It is a fact that some trade unions which either I ? could not function properly or were not allowed to function properly during the SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA : Sir, the emergency have become active after the Government certainly believes in the Fun- emergency was lifted. In fact, one of the damental Rights of all citizens including reasons for the number of strikes that have workers and the right of workers to take been taking place is inter-union rivalry. such action as is necessary to ensure the Therefore, the second part of the question redressal of their grievances through collect- of the hon. member is very relevant, as to ive bargaining as well as strikes, what the government proposes to do about but, in certain industries, for certain reason ; the difficulties caused as a result of inter- there have been suggestions that the union rivalry. It must be said here that right t- strike should be exercised with on the one hand all of us arc devoted to the the utmost circumspection in the interest idea of freedom of association and on the of the whole of society. Apart from that, other, there is the difficulty that arises in no restrictions of the kind that the hon. identifying a single bargaining a g e n t. Member referred to have been imposed by The attempt of the government is to study the Government. this question with the help of the committee that was appointed after the tripartite labour conference* and to introduce such measures in the law as are necessary to : snarer ensure the identification of the bargaining agent. ferr w *r r^u % 167 «*al| SHRI K. A. RAJAN: May I know if it is a fact that most of the strikes that have taken place have been due to the *rf I I # *K+K # ^TFRT non-implementation of the statutes and vio- lation of agree ments ? Secondly, there are i fa 167 ffcTMf % statutory provisions in the Industrial Dis- putes Act for declaring strikes as illegal. focF* W ^H lf | I If I say that, certain strikes are being dec- lared as illegal over and beyond those pro- SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA : If any *TFT grt action is taken by anyone to call a strike illegal outside the statutory provisions that irftfT *Tsjl' faw Midi exist for identifying a strike as illegal, that identification itself becomes illegal. Jf 4K4iT< % 3FTT T O I fcpiT | ^ About the other question regarding non- ementation of awards and agreements, Jr 55ft ^«JHM .mp3 a fact that there have been some cases where agreements have not been imple- % f^TTT jpiT fT O f.ST- mented, but I do not think the hon. Memb-r is correct in drawing the conclu- yrf^lVM ^TT sion that that is the main reason. SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA : Sir, I have stated m an y times in this House that it is because we b“lieve that the existing 'Tift ^ fw-M I Hi TT *RTRT legislation is inadequate that we w^nt to introduce a comprehensive Bill to am end 5 T -*fc r -f o T 3T? ?TT 3TT the law «s it exists. 9 Oral Answers AGRAltAYAtoA 17, 1899 (SAKA) Om Ahsioers Dttdld^nrtM rtf Sulpha* Hbt Water, Spring In India 5RT srtfftar fW »r st srr *r% tt ^rvt wf W ^ ^mn 5rr i ^ *334 SHRI DURGA CHAND : Will the Minister of HpALTH AND FAMILY Jfeft % * m r ^t^tt | — WELFARE be pleased to state : WT f*?TTT fkmn (a) whether the Prime Minister visiting Sanatoria in Suchi in Soviet Union had f5 ^ tt , ^rnmrff^t ?rr$ appreciated the Sulphur Hot Water Springs ^ WfT ^t»TT, fjRT % f^frr^T in that area which are beneficial for health; forr 5|t *r% sfk srrff^ fVf .wt (b) whether Prime Minister had express- ed his concern that sulphur hot water % fsrq; ^=m- 7TT>r f :tt springs in India particularly at Manikarn near Kulu in Himachal Pradesh and Badri- 5|T g%, ^TT f% tftfTOJT qf fq’JT nath in U.P. have not been developed for if Pt^i 'jiicii ^ ? health purposes ; (c) whether Government have under- taken or propose to undertake survey to TTH •TTTTl^T : TO And out tne efficacy of sulphur springs in the country for health purposes ; and 5ft iTWfa 'T =T| | ft 5m | SrlT 9TT^TW t iTJR (d) if so, the details thereof and the steps being taken to develop such springs in the f .f ;* t forr Tt country ? ?rfh: fm»T ft ^rmr ^ t% t ft 3rr^ i q-f ?rft 11% 'irrcr % Fin*? (jt) wk (sr). 5ft fog Tft, ^f ?fr?ft Tft i S3 O 5R^T qrcf ^t ^K+K mi I iJTT TfT'T? % ITTE^T1? % ^*T ^wf «Ft *pr- ^Tf ^Hsu* 1% ^T^^JT TTW| 7T2T ft frrfcen ^ *1^1 ^fN> to r 5ftr wRtT % ^ 3T> JTt 5RT «TCT Tft | I TOFTWt ^ f^RT 11 *ft : 5TST pf* T O ifertsft sfk jfeft 5ft ?t stfroct JTR^tq- WIT 5TTT f*nt *ift *)f«r+ •ftfrfv f: iTf sn’TWI HlgMI %ft * R F t * t arra | ^ ^r fo r* for for w «fy % vrRrarnr w r t i m w ' K if t o t spt «rr?ft if r^Hw Tpft ^T f'TVtTT ’Tff’P^'Trft fa^Ft WT ^ IW irafV 3ft ^T% fo^r ft 5® «rnsr %—srfrr ffafra' ^ t 5TPT $ . tft 3RP=fa ^TT 5Tm g=TT «ft xtm : >cmt ^ t t t ^t*TT I ^ fcT fsrr, ftiT -HmiRd % 3ft TTtWXt, f^T- SET, $# ^ ^tTT W , ^ ^TTt ?fk TTW Xt STV5T % STTT ^TTT + £ p ft 1 1 s t f t ^pt st ^ for RTPT ^ T I ^r ?n^ST if fJTTTT Tnnfh: ^ 3prir|^?rfR% ?tfafw ^ t t ir^ ^ for fopR^- *rnft % ijpff ^rt 3ft^ ^ ^R f^n *pc t «TT I ^rif ^W Rtif JTM ^tTlt, . . . ( b i w r ) . . . T^r STR^r ^Frr for 'J'^'l^l oidl^l , ^f 11 ocO^a ^rj T T 5TPT T T t I ^rRR if f^RTW ^TZX % ^>T ^rr^r w^3n7^r |— %$ % WT^T tfdlf^, Sfcfaf^ f i r STspR % 5TTST % ^ *r * p * fa% if |, «fk *f w t Tn ft # 3 T T W ft f o w ^ < r t f t ^ * T Jru% f w 3TTTTTTT I ^ T if %$ ST^K apt sq^rn- I ?fR ^TTTt *jfw- % foRT^vft I ^T?R ^rr fWRT q fo s ^ % r^ r gr^rrf^RT «.Pw> ^ F T fw 3nrniT I SHRI G. S. REDDI : What are the Incidence of Malaria In the places in the country where this sulphur Country water is available ? t i *335. SHRI BALDEV SINGH JAS- TTar .fRWji : R O TIA : w t i ft 3th; if «RTt fou «tT fti SHRI B. RACHAIAH : flt f r f R 5f WicTTf»¥, *tk TR»Jf % (a) the number of Malaria cases report- ed during the last one year in the country, 'Tpft % w"Wl ’ft f^RiRT f+Mi 3TT State-wise ; and TfT ^ ^Iff % VTTcfhT «ft f a s w sfT^T : w « ft grHTffirm : t TTPnfhr *lWt Tf^t^T atdl^1! ft> TT^t 5TFHT ■Mi^dT f ft* freW ^TTvff % % TFT if w k qfasnT-5PtI?t if •H cti ^ ^t t n^tr ft^rc 'fli^u ? f ? «ft t r t ^m tnj : h i ^ ft? 1965 if mkci «<^ if «ft TT5T HTTTyjJT : $ TfPHtq ^npnr ft mr «tt ?ffr ^ ’ft ^ ^T^ZT ST’T^TftcT ^ ft? 'J'ft^t sf^TPT «ft I %ft^T 1966 % if spT 5W 33TOT | I ^PFT ^ft 5r^ ft 1 wn- 3tr% *ft JFTT ftPTT 1U ^TT STfa ft I ‘ft: 1966 % ST*T if ft ^T% f a w % fat* 3ft tft ^TT SfeTT *imt 5TSTR JT^t ft f^PsTSTT ^ % 5TT JPTW Hf Tft ft> tfctf fitfSRT * I 15 Oral Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Oral Answers 16 SWT * 3T?tsft ft. 2 ^nrer %^r fasft if srr ^=nt «rk *nft wrvrCt snpff Tt T | t ?TRT I # ^®5TT ^TfrU jf for Z f t T T % , * i K T T % 5R ^ t 3fr ?nTt>T W T l l ^ r n f t ^ F R t n : if ^T*TT f^TT W W^SX THT^ 3Tff 5 0 f3 TTT ^l«ll VT 3ft f e ^ T ^tfl( % 2 ?iw %inr ft ^ ^ i ?^ftW «ftT^T $K«I ?fr wr TnnTRm 3ft q^t 3ft «m t % *^R<4i «T yr: 3T?*T ^ f^Hi iftr ?ft ^rnr ^ H^ 5 ^ ff ^mnft, iff ^TfT TOT T*ift I ^r ft TnrsTFfr | i vm 'J’l'Ti'l 9 c*T I 'TfT«l«f| afT^ fTT ’ TT'R tq- ^ T ^ ^ q f ^IM 'ii -Hi^cii eft ’RcT^ T O T fTT «TT ^ for ’MIH% ST7T fo> fo?^ft if ^TjURT 3ft ?TW T*ft M& 3T?ft "T^ft ^ | qTJf % ^ T fof«T5T ^ ff % TT^ % for?pft 5TT STT^, foiW% ^ErHsRT ^ T T ^ , TT ’ *FT[f : 5TCTT5T 3ft, ^t iT^f^rr # i tro mfo h i »r*ftq T r s m r n r T 3ft ft 3ft ^rNv? €to ?ffo ^t foirFft «T3?T^f^? ?TTT | ^rif fo??ft%3fr9qtFt|^nPt *<^il+ if «T W I foT'T TT3q1f tj ?T TT ^ fo*.« ¥T % TT3PTTTPP,T 3ft *Ff w f r q r ^ ^ ^ft*r 31? q f f ^ r fW etpt snrfacr w^rt ^f^T g: i fo^ft rTRTT if WT^ 15ft ?TT% fTT’T ^f< q| i f 3f^T for 3T^dT Midf T t =f»m ’MsilW ai % ^ t s mo # t t tv i *TfT T ^ f t | , f t THTOTft % STPT Tf T| | for 1976 if ^ 49 f^ r ft ^Tcf ^ for fo r^ ft fjf R %%3T JT^riW % ftr ^ 1977 if 3r^ % TnrmxnTuT 3ft ^f t »Tt q fT T T JT % fW ^ ^ T ^ f t if wnpr prr ^r ir 9 % ^ I JT*R «(ld ^T ?R«T ? r ^ i ?rnj «ftr 68 fsm: %^¥ WJT if T f W , fow t fC TT^TT ^TfcTT ft %, ?fk ?nft 3 vffi ^ p t ^ I *TP Ffta ^RFT ^ *)i+« T5 17 Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers 18 many a time but malaria is such a serious f c * r c f a q t xrrarr % thing that it gives a lot of suffering. st t o if ^ «rN& Ts^r * r p r Specially in Delhi, all those who Are associa- ted with the life of Delhi will agree that f i 1965 ft T>ft i srrsr i85, in the last 25 years, this is the first year that half of Delhi was in floods. TheJariakpuri *ft?T ITT «Tt ^ I 1966 if ft»ft and many other areas were under water for 1 «ft Qfr'trnr : w *r#t sft TT3I HKUHTI : if imfifhT *Tff^T ^rt wicT ^ft jfPRnrt ^ 1% ^t 'JiM'hlO % farr iTf ¥ to^to£to TT •M’owOf*R STViq "tx/il ^TTfcTT f f% »i*kiI 1^ . % ^Tft ftaT frrcr % ^rnTir TT^rfwr, <.^K rTCt% q<3 K f, sftT $HK 5TTTT 7f t ^ I ^JTff 3Tft TFft ^PTT til+H'i 3ft faw ^3 f ^ ^ wft^ft qr f*rq^ wrr f»««hM snrrfkw ^ ft, rft ^ tt *rwt % WRf ft%| I ^TfT^T ¥to ^~to Jto 3Ft ^nif fo ft ?riftSf % tt^t g?rniT «tt— fr qf ^nr ^ ir ^ r f w ^^to q^t ftr wm TTff spt ?rr % qT^fto Tto €to ^rrfeffTR *rf I ?PTT '5TrtaI Hlil =t* I -H ^ ft TfT ^ I SR ^5T 3f1]f ?T WTf ft^teft WPR fk^ft if fSITTt f*rt srk ^mcrf m firar 11 f3TTT S R ^ f t ^ ^ t ft^ff I *nR ^ ^ T f*T^ ^hTTWTt| sfto xr^o fcTTT M|fld ^f9R f^PTT ^ tft o i gf ^rat +i <«rc ft Tft | i ft> fsr^rft wfsR T«ft^t Wf^T^Ft^nTT . . («m m R ) iTFFfhr sfR: fsr^fr % ^rfCTT f?T% ^t | % T5J ^T ^T TT R W ftcTT | I ^Tfw ^t I f ^ q7t ^?TOF arofo^ro ^>f f i ^9T ^t 'ST’TcTT ?Ft ftF '3 ^ smcTT qr€f *ft T O R sft^ftTR fr SHRI M.V. KRISHNAPPA : We enjoy the answer of the Health Minister ^rrt % if 5t r t 19 Oral Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Oral Answers 20 Recommissioning Of Ghasnala Mine Ranchi, rehabilitation of the mine is des- irable for the economic and social benefits arising out of the reopening: •341. SHRI S.R. DAM ANI : Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleat- (d) The amount so far spent by the ed to state : management of Indian Iron and Steel Company are as under : — (a) whether Government have examined the prospects of recommissioning of Chasna- Rs. la mine ; (1) Land for jore diversion . 4,73,000* (b) if so, what is the present position ; (2) Embankment . . 3,09,197 (c) whether the extractable reserves war- (3) Dam Construction . 28,31,390 rant the time and money being spent for the restoration of the mine, and if so, the (4) Cost of techno-economic details thereof ; survey by CMPDI . . 4,50,000 (d) the amount so far spent to make (e) No one has suffered loss of employ- future operation perfectly safe ; and ment as a result of the closure of Chansala deep mine. The workers have been most- (e) the manner in which the people who ly deployed on the open cast mines or in suffered loss of employment have been cared other jobs. for? SHRI S.R. DAMANI : May I know from THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND the hon. Minister what action has MINES (SHRI BIJU PATNAIK) : (a) to been taken by the Government to re- (#) : A statement is laid on the Table of employ those workers who have been the House. thrown out of job on account of this acci- dent, that is, closure of the mine? Statement SHRI BIJU PATNAIK : If the hon. Member would care to read the statement (a )and (b) : Yes, Sir, The following which I have laid on the Table of the House steps have been taken so far, in this direction he will find that in the last paragraph, I have stated that as a result of the closure of the deep mine, the workers who became (i) No. 1 horizon has been dewatered unemployed have been employed on the and important installations repaired. It open cast mines and in other jobs. They is being further strengthened by clearing have already been employed. the faults and supporting the roadways; MR. SPEAKER : What are the other (ii) The connection between the old jobs? workings and the new mine has been sealed off by the construction of a dam ; SHRI S.R. DAMANI : What are the (iii) Permission of the Director General of other jobs you have prescribed? Mines Safety has been solicited for dewater- ing the second horizon and establishing SHRI BIJU PATNAIK : The hon. essential services as well as driving a pair Member wanted to know whether they of headings to approach the thin seams have been employed. There are so many other than the one in which the accident other jobs. took place. This is being done with a view to take advantage of the infra-structure already existing for mining of thin seams. SHRI S.R. DAMANI : May I know These seams are also of equally good qua- whether the Government has set up any lity ; and permanent committee of experts to under- take periodical inspection of all the mines (iv) An Advisory Committee has been from the safety point of view ; and if so, constituted to advise IISCO on the pro- whether private experts are also associated blems that may arise from time to time in with its apparatus and instructions from the recommissioning of the underground the safety point of view of the mines ? mine. SHRI BIJU PATNAIK : If the hon. (v) The estimated reserves in the proper- Member cares to read from the statement., ty within the first and the second horizons it is already there in item No. iv of the alone are estimated at about 43 million statement. “An Advisory Committee tonnes. These are the best quality coking has been constituted to advise IISCO on coal. According to the techno-economic the problems that may airse from time to surrey conducted by the Central Mine time in the recommissioning of the under- Planning and Design Institute Limited ground mine.*’ 21 Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers SHRI VINODBHAIB. SHETH ; Such SHRI BIJU PATNAIK; Whea I accidents occur due to the negligence, faul- took over the portfolio, I had myself ty planning and inefficient working of the called and discussed the entire matter with officers. In that case, would you him. One of these days when he is ready, like, once, again, to think over for I am going to see the pump under denationalising the coalfields ? demonstration which he has promised to show. I have not yet heard from SHRI BIJU PATNAIK : No, Sir. h im , SHRI VAYALAR RAVI : This was one of the catastrophies and tragedies that happend in the Ghasnala mine and there was a big uproar in Parliament itself. The Interlinking of Telephone Exchaag Government has appointed a commission and spent a lot of money. The Coalfields •342. SHRI GEORGE MATHEW 1 Authority has also appointed lawyer officers. Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- May I know from the hon* Minister whe- TIONS be pleased to state: ther it is a fact that you have not taken action against any of these officers who arc (a) whether STD telephone services responsible for this incident; and if so, what will be extended to all exchanges where is die reason ? there are more than 250 telephone connec- tions; and SHRI BIJU PATNAIK : Although it does not arise out of this question, I have (b) whether all telephone exchanges answered this question. The Labour within a redial distance of 10 miles from Minister has written to the leader the principal exchange will be interlinked ? of the opposition and the leader of the other groups to advise on this matter. THE MINISTER OF COMMUNI- We have not received any answer from them. CATIONS (SHRI BRIJLAL VERMA) : Please ask them to give us answers. (a) No, Sir. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI : My com- (b) Interlinking will be done gradually plaint is that some vested interest has deve- as and when adequate material and finan- loped in that office. cial resources becomc available. SHRI BIJU PATNAIK : If the hon. SHRI GEORGE MATHEW : The Member thinks that I have developed hon. Minister has replied ‘No* to part (a) vested interest with some of the officers, of my question. I want to know whether then I cannot think as well o f him as I there are any guide lines fixed for the estab- used to think. lishment of STD telephone services in the country. SHRI HARIKESH BAHADUR : When SHRI BRIJLAL VERMA : Yes; this Chasnala Mine disaster took place, there are some guidelines. When there at that time, Dr. S. S. Saluga, Institute of are more than hundred calls on a line Technology, Banaras University, had in a day then it becomes justified to have fabricated a water lift pump and be STD. has already demonstrated that pump over there. But that pump was not used by the officers of that particular department^ SHRI GEORGE MATHEW: Regard- where this accident had taken place. Dr. ing linking of the small exchanges to Saluga was telling, if that pump was used, the principal exchange, the hon. Minister many lives would have been saved. But, has said that it will be done as and when actually, that pump was not used. materials become available. Is there any time limit fixed for completing this job ? Will the Department takes its own time— MR. SPEAKER : We hope that such as much time as they w ant or need— accidents will not happen hereafter. or has Government fixed any time limit for completing this job— linking of exchanges SHRI HARIKESH BAHADUR : I within a radius of ten miles ? would like to know from the hon. Minister whether such types of indigenous devices SHRI BRIJLAL VERMA: As regards which have been fabricated by our Indian 10 mile radius, we have fixed some Scientists will be utilized in future norms. First of all, we have to connect by in order to save human lives. (Interrvbtions) STD all the capitals in the country. After They had asked for a Russian pump. this, wc are going to the Divisional level; If they had fabricated that pump and all divisional headquarters will be con- if they had used that pump, it was nected by STD. Then we go to the district hoped, at least, 200 persons would level. These norms have been fixed and have been saved. we are going according to these norms. 23 Or al Answers DftCtBteER 8, 1977 Written Answers fa»T *t 62 *T?%*£ *fcft^t% *mT ^rtfm f fa *ttt^ % ^TT ft 3TT^ | I W % fa^ ift f fafaw TT^ff % fa?nf fa^r | t^*IT fa ft ffWT | 3T ?!ft I f^ntvt s h r fa*TT 5JT ^+dr ^ ? fa^ WRITTEN ANSWERS TO fa% ^ sfY^ 'TFT 4*11 ^ ? QUESTIONS Funds for improvement of Cfricutta **m*r vrf : t^T tt 3\ Telephones *T?T ?ft £?! Tft, *nft *§ THE MINISTER OF CO M MUNICA- tihnihTTf Tnrtr : if gf TIONS (SHRI BRIJLAL VERMA): ^ ^Tfi-TT g Wt Wt-fri* % Yes, Sir. 3t*t ^ w'li ^w^fsNr^ d'l'tTl ^ 4lR< 4<. % *>* rPF 53 fT^T fam 3TI%TTT ? WT VPTqftf. fafa?m «T3% *T fa*TO tKAK % «Ftf Hh «(» iImi ^ fa qrsT ^TR- if ^a»| ^t fTT fa : sft WJTFTTH *1|f : JTf forff^T fam * pit ^fa fa^nt fa% sftr f««Tl'fl*i^i (^) ^n^ir ?to 1RTCT if wrfm | s^fat o t i ^ ir RfarffT 'refinff % fWRT TT ^r ^ ^ i qiI«( Ff^T % fatr aft «RT?TPt f>, qrsfir % fWro, ht-jhstt^, siftrem %?FT€R *ft W 3WTH vrf : ^r% ^ if (sft TT3f »rrcm) : (^) (^) • ftRTT I rPP f*R 126 cp» ^nnTTTwferr w WfTt if £t« *t° $f«WPf t, 25 Written Answer* AGRAHA-YANA 17, 1889 (SAKA) Written Answers 26 (*0 1 fwfw«wlf m ¥tm 1 1 *re*rc wawfotK w m r TFRfivr tft iftr tf-jHyn m ^ I *J9RS (m) %^tir efa jfr^n +t4 «mK fafcwiT q^fr 1974-75 1975-76 1976-77 1977-78 tfo it aRWT 1 2 3 4 5 6 ( ^ t TTtff *) 1 tn^M M 't^ r q 2 0. 08 0. 11 0. 22 0. 25 3 zfnr : 37. 23 55. 29 66. 51 82. 24 (g-) m^fcy r-Mf+^n q^fa 3. 5^ f m ST+T9FT I % fVyre ffk ta r ir tfk ^ f ^ t t sforcrn' «ciHi 4. tsrf ^t Jtftrem 1 spt % f 5FT ?rf ifhFmtff vt 5. VKeflq fcf+wT q?% % qr f^RTT fw 3fT Tft | t M R HFTFff qft ^ m r $ ' — (trnjjfe q^fa it 3 *flk ^rnft . ffTR^R, ^ f^ ft it 1 300 qjfa it ^ ) I FT ^FffTWt q ^ f f 31% ^ K M f< *‘ ir HTd'P-'jt TT^St w Vt t f t SIM f t ^TT W M ^ t R fa*TTC fpt I n « t ) 1 2. ^rNfarar ^n^Tjfr, ?rf 6. WITrfor f^rfWr 'T5 ^ t % HTW Reservation of lime stone areas of anr err ’i 1 w ^ft^rr ^ i Madhya Pradesh for public sector* SRsffr m ^ O % •328. SHRI PARMANAND GOVIN- iTRcfhT M+ WT DJIWALA: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: % P^rVrttTi Tt (a) whether large areas of lime stone I ' in Madhya Pradesh have been reserved by the Central Government for the Public Sector; 7. 7T3*ff *f *TS-*T?£T &tX TT (b) whether Government have formula- vrofrq- fofa'arr t? % t ted any scheme to exploit these deposits; and dlWh W STtrTCT I *PT- (c) if not, why these areas should not if VKrfa P«f+cflT THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND 8. *TTC?fta faf+ctfT T3% 5f MINES (SHRI BIJU PATNAIK): (a) Certain limestone bearing areas of Madhya MTd+-^t ftrerr tt f Wra- i Pra lesh have been reserved for exploita- tion in the Public Sector. j^srt % vrmfhr (bi and (c). The reservation of these f^rfTcHT M*fo % arras has in the past been mainly to meet TT^rsff % farr tffop SR ft the present and future requirements of the Steel Plants. The policy of reservation ef eZHIFTT TT P mK ^ cITftr entire districts is being reviewed. vr Trl^r VRxfhr M ^ r ft f*ftq tPitc ^rfTTf »rit Legislation ensuring Job Security TT 3q^qf ft *rf uf I *3_>q. SHRI K. MALLANNA: Will the Minister of PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR be pleased to 9. farerpf Tr Jrtw* i state whether there is any proposal under the consideration of Government for introducing legislation specifically to en- 10 - ^ cT*TT 5HfT%T forfrcgT q- sure job security to all those employees who would not be covered by the proposed HldVlTPC uf^or I law on industrial relations ? THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- fafocfTT T ^ fV^cft * 5f^ TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR (SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA): Yes, Sir, a pro- *t # ^r^fsrrr t fsf’T frnfa posal is under consideration of the Govern- ment". %*rr »ttt § fo ** «r*j I ^ pf ^frsaT ft ^ JJo WTO % wrt *f stTt mtfta faf^ r Tarfa m srfsf *rt frft* tt wrfmr ftnrrwrcr ft»!ftT«fr ft T«=Jt ^■r* T;frr«r^ 9T5T Tfwsf 3 fainforr *330. «rt OT#T: : fST S*TF«f «rfrmr fww wwt A ^ft *pc tT«rr srn srf trnff % firor iRcnF w vpNift finpr awr * JWi % sNf nf|? ' if % faito 333. OflM W HtfH Vlf S fyrw wta: 'rfrarTT vrcrm ifcft srh iwid sftr nw *rVt snrft ^*t («rt TnRimrn) : w »flr srf?RTt f^rr f% : ^ ir ^ I I fW (^>) ^ 5rr ^ ^ t ft* Ri^k wK f Wli * tt ^>t *rnt vnrsfT^t. % ssftn + ST 9 T Mfll ^FTT Import Duty on Stainless Steel (*j) (b) if so, to what extent and what is ^^THwtr wK*rft «re«rrw): the estimated loss of revenue on account of (= f) ^t I this reduction in import duty; (c) whether the cut in import duty re- (^) Hft tott 1 sulted in corresponding decrease in the prices of stainless steel utensils; and (d) if so, to what extent ? Publication of Single Telephone Directory in Rajasthan THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND *336. SHRI MEETHA LAL PATEL: MINES (SHRI BIJU PATNAIK): (a) Will the Minister of CO M MUNICA- TIONS be pleased to state: ;md (b). The duty rates on stainless steel sheets were reduced from 320% ad-valorem (a) whether separate telephone direc- tories are published for all the divisions to rates ranging from 40% to 120% ad - of the Rajasthan Telephone Circlcs and valorem ; at the time of the introduction of for District Manager, Telephones, Jaipur; the Finance Bill; these were subsequently (b) whether these directories are very increased on certain items from 120% to small in size and the printing, birding, 2 i0% ai-v*lorem. The quantum of loss stitching and paper of the directory for m revenue due to these changes will District Manager, Telephones, Jaipur is also poor as a result it gets torn and depend upon the effective changes in actual scattered after a few days; import of stainless steel plates, sheets and (c) the total expenditure incurred on the strips. No precise estimate, can, therefore, publication of telephone directories in he made at this stage. respect of all the divisions and District Manager, Telephones, Jaipur separately (c) The impact of changes in the duty during the last year; and rates on stainless steel utensils prices can (d) whether Government propose to get l)e appropriately felt only after the a single telephone directory prepared for changes have been in operation for a rea- all the divisions and the District Manager, sonable period of time. Telephones, Jaipur as before in case the subscribers of the circle and the District Manager, Telephones, Jaipur are prepared (d) Does not arise. to hear extra burden ? Written Answers DECEMBER 8, 197V Written Answers 32 THE MINISTER QF COMMUNI- (d)jThe* prices a we re as under:— CX'flONS (SHRI BRIJLAL VERlyfA): (a) Yc», Sir. Plates As./kg. (b) Tfoe size of a telephone dirpctoi depepds on the number of entries. Printing, binding, stitching and paper used fpr 12, iq and Q uun 32-00 Jaipur District Telephone Directory and Divisional Directories of Rajasthan Circle $ mm . . . 33-00 are generally in accordance with the stan- dard laid down by the Government. 5 m n * ...... 34#oo Shuts (c^ The total expenditure incurred in pointing of the last issue of pivisiojial 1*25 H.R. Sheets 44* 00 Directories of Rajasthan Telecom. Circle and those of Jaipur Telephone District are 1*2 5 C.R. Sheets . . 52*00 Rs. 58,221 and Rs. 45,300/- respectively. (e) The plant reduced the selling prices (d) No, Sir. by the following amounts:— Rs. Plates (5, 6, 8, 10 and 12 mm) 5*00 H.R. Sheets . . 5*00 Fall on orders fpr sheets on Alloy Steel Plant Durgapnr due to re* C.R/Sheeta . . 8* 00 duction of import duty on The losses suffered by the plant arc Stainless steel attributable to a variety offactors including technical obsolescence. *337. SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRI- SHNAN: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: Breeding of Musk Deer (a) whether there was a sharp fall of orders for the stainless steel sheets from *338. SHRI OM PRARASH TYACI: the Alloy Steel Plant at Durgapur after the Will the Minister of HEALTH AND import duty for the stainless sheets was FAM ILY WELFARE be pleased to state: reduced by Government recently; (a) the amount spent during the past three years by the Central Council of (b) if so, what is the monthly orders o ^ Medical Research on the breeding of musk stainless steel sheets from the Alloy Stee deer; Plant during the current financial year; (b) the number of deer being breeded; (c) what is the month-wise financial and position; (c) the quantity of musk obtained ? (d) what was the price of ASP Stainless Steel at the time the decision was taken THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND to cut the import duty of this commodity; FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI RAJ NAR- and A IN ): (a) to (c). A research project for study of possibilities of augmenting pro- duction of musk in the country, without (e) to what extent it was advised to killiing the musk deer has been in operation reduce the prices and to what extent the sincc 1971/The total amount spent on this loss is attributed to the cut in prices ? Project by the Central Council for Research in Indian Medicine and Homoeopathy during the last three years (1974-75,1975-76 THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND) and 1970-77) was Rs. 78,221-96. Three MINES (SHRI BIJU PATNAIK): (a) musk deers were procured for this proiect No, Sir. for the purpose of studying their habits, growth and development in captivity, behaviour, adaptation and acclimiatisation (b) Does not arise. problems etc. before tecaniques for breed- ing them could be evolved. Only one of the (c) As the accounts for the year 1977-78 three deers is alive at present and is being are still to be closed, no indication of its maintained and stidied. No quantity of profitability is available. musk has so far been tapped as research 33 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1889 (SAKA) Written Answers , 34 work if still to progress further for evolving rescue stations during 1977-78 has been a proper technique for tapping musk from accorded. It is proposed to open 2 more a live animal. rescue stations during 1978-79. The ques* tion of opening more rescue stadons dur- ing the Five Year Plan 1978— 83 is also under consideration. Sliscontentmeiit among employees over non-payment of Bonus 2. It is also proposed to replace the existing obsolete breathing appcuratus and •339. SHRIMATI MRINAL GORE: equipment with modern and light appa* 'Will the Minister of PARLIAM ENTARY ratus during the years 1977-78 and 1978- AFFAIRS AND LABOUR be pleased to .-state: 79- (a) whether there is discontentment Indo-Iraqi collaboration Pact among the employees in the private and public sector enterprise over the non- •343. DR. HENRY AUSTIN: Will the payment of bonus; Minister of EXTERN AL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (b) if so, the names of these industries and the public sector organisations; and (a) whether it is a fact that India and Iraq have signed a pact for wideranging (c) the steps taken to remove the dis- collaboration with each other; and contetment ? (b) if so, when the pact was signed, and details thereof ? THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR (SHRI R AV IN D R A VARM A): (a) to (c). There THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE -are some reports of non-payment of bonus MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS in a few units under the Bonus Law. As (SHRI S. K U N D U ): (a) No, Sir. However, the State Governments are the appropriate ever the 4th Session of the Indo-Iraq Joint Governments in respect of most of the units Commission was held in New Delhi from under the Payment of Bonus Act, detailed 7th to 9th November, 1977, at the end of information regarding cases of non- which Agreed Minutes were signed. This payment has not been received. Any dis- Session of the Joint Commission reviewed pute relating to non-payment of bonus is earlier Indo-Iraqi cooperation in several treated as a dispute under the Industrial fields. This cooperation had been initiated Dispute Act which provides for the mecha- during earlier Sessions of the Joint nism of resolution of such disputes. Commission. To examine the whole range of collaboration in detail, the Joint Com- mission divided itself into five Com- mittees, viz- Trade, Cultural and Technical Strengthening of mines rescue Cooperation, Transport and Services, stations Agriculture and Irrigation, and Industrial Cooperation and Consultancy. *340. SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN: Will the Minister of PARLIAM ENTARY AF- The Committee on Trade reviewed the FAIRS AND LABOUR be pleased to growth of Indo-Iraq commercial relations state: and identified areas of further growth. Ways and means of overcoming difficulties (a) whether Government propose to that had hindered the growth of trade modernise and strengthen the mines were discussed. In the Committee on rcscue stations as the existing stations are Industrial Cooperation and Consultancy, not adequate to ensure effective and timely possible Indian participation in various action in the event of major accidents; Iraqi civil construction and infrastructural projects were discussed, as well as certain (b) if so, the details thereof; and industrial projects where India was in a position to provide trumkey services, (c) the steps Government intend to take including consultancy. In the Committee in this regard ? on Agriculture and Irrigation, India offered assistance in the field o f fishery development, and tropical and arid zone THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- cultivation. With regard to Transport and TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR (SHRI Services, detailed discussions were held RAVINDRA VARM A): (a) The Govern- covering India's possible participation in *nent propose to modernize and strengthen the development of Iraqi railways. Regard- the mines rescue stations. ing technical cooperation, the services of Indian experts deputed to Iraq were (b) and (c). There are at present 12 rescue appreciated by the Iraqi side, aqd the stations. Sanction for opening of two more modalities of further streamlining the 35 W ritten A ntotrs DECTMBffiVS, lfi77 Writtin iA««pers 36 deployment of Indian experts 40 /tssist THE MINISTER QF HEALTH AND Iriq jn.itt development prpgrajwaes were FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI RAJ NA- »?mn>niyi. Develflpments in the field of RAIN): (a) A study has been undertaken touzjfm were also dlscweed. at the Jawahar Lai Institute of Post- graduate Medical Education & Research, (b) Does not arise* Pondicherry on this subject since 1969. ■One of the observations of the study is that Aedes Aegypti mosquitoes which were first allowed to feed on untreated leproma- Pelktisatioii Plant fea Btitar iP)«trict tous leprosy patients and then to refeed of Madhya Pradesh on mouse footpads were found to transfer Mycobacterium laprae to the footpads, •344. SHRI HUKAM CHAND KA- as seen by the subsequent multiplication of CH WAI: Will the Minister of STEEL the bacilli in the foot-pads. However, the AND MHSES ,bc :pl£ase 4 *© • results presently available are insufficient to come to any conclusion about the actual (a) whether the Central Government role of mosquitoes in the transmission of have received a report of the experts on leprosy in the field. The work is continuing. the setting up of a pelletisation plant in Bastar District in Madhya Pradesh; (b) Since the work at present is in th* experimental stage and not definitely con- 1 elusive, the question of formulating and | (b) if so, the details of the report; implementing preventive steps does not ' and arise. (c) the time by which a decision is likely to be taken bv the Central Government on the setting up of this plant ? Rising prices of Stainless Steel 3069. SHRI S. S. SOMANI: Will the THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND Minister of STEEL AND MINES be plea- MINES (SHRI BIJU PATNAIK): (a) sed to state: to (c). A proposal is under consideration for the setting up of a plant of a capacity (a) whether the prices of stainless steel of about 2 million tonnes per annum for are rising considerably for the last few pelletisation of iron ore fmcs generated months; at the Bailadila mines of the National Mineral Development Corporation Ltd. (b) whether there is a great demand of The Metallurgical and Engineering Con- Indian stainless steel articles in the foreign sultants (India) Ltd., have been appointed countries; and as Engineering Consultants for this pro- ject. Based on the discussions with reputed (c) if so, the names of these countries parties possessing requisite process know- and the scheme proposed to be formulated how. revised tenders were received in by Government for the promotion of the October, 1977 and are now under exami- Industry ? nation in the N.M.D.C. After the selection of know-how/process designers, MECON THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE will take up the preparation of the Detailed MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES Project Report for the project. (SHRI KARIA MUNDA): (a) to (c). It is presumed that the reference is to stainless steel sheets, bars, rods, etc, produced by An investment decision for construction Alloy Steel Plants. It is not correct that the of the plant will, however, depend upon a prices of these items have been rising tie-up for sale of pellets and the availability considerably for the last few months. On of requisite resources within the overall the contrary, there has been some reduc- priorities. tion in prices. As regards exports, as we are ourselves importing stainless steel sheets, etc., there is no possibility of export of such items at present. Spreading of Leprosy by mosquitoes and bad bags ♦34«j. SHRI D. D. DESAI: Will the Memorandum submitted by C.G.H.S. Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY Medical Officers regarding termi- WrELFARE be pleased to state: nation orders (a) whether there is any research finding 3070. SHRI C. K. JAFFER-SHARIFFj in India that leprosy is also spread by Will the Minister of HEALTH AND mosquitoes and bed bugs; ana FAMILY WELFARE be pleased ,to itatei ^b) if so, What preventive steps have (a) whether «o*ne temporary wfldfcal fceea taken theiton? officef»belonging to the Central Govetttr 37 A n v e r s AGRAHAWSHk17, T8B9 (SrfKft) *Wrltm %naweT8 - 38 ment H^Ulh Service* l»ve^trtwnhted*any TOE MINISTER OF STATE IN TH E memorandum to Government Tegarding MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS the termination orden and regularisation (SHRI NARHARI PRASAD SUKHDEO of their servioesjand SAI): (a) In Koraput District, Orissa, the number of proposals pending examina- (b) if «o, the reaction of Government tion for providing telephone facility are 6 thereon ? at Block Headquarters and none at Tehsil Headquarters. The rent have been appro- ved. There is no policy decision to provide THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE telephone facility at all Sub-Post Offices. MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMI- LY WELFARE (SHRI JAGDAMBI (b) It is proposed to provide PCOs at PRASAD YADAV): (a) Yes. 5 Block Headquarters in Koraput District during the current financial year. (b) The difficulties of ad-hoc Medical Officers are still under consideration in consultation with the U.P.S.C. However, it has been decided to continue the ad- hoc appointment if there are clear vacan- Progress in Communication of setting cies againBt which they can be continued up a second earth station at in the same Organisation. Dehradun 3074. SHRI DHARM VIR VASISHT: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- TIONS be pleased to state: Provision of Postal facilities in rural (a) the progress made in India’s Com- munication Service as a result of the addi- 3071. SHRI GYANESHWAR PRASAD tion of a second Earth Station at Dehradun, YADAV; Will the Minister of COM- particularly in the fields od Direct Tele- MUNICATIONS be pleased to state: phone Service, Direct Telex Service via- satellite service, Radio Photo and Tele- (a) the number of new Post Offices to vision Services: and be opened in Nangachia Sub-division of Bhagalpur and the Khagaria Sub-Division (b) the progress, if any, made in the rural of Monghyr District; and satellite programme services ? (b) whether Murali Village in Gopalpur Block is included in this scheme ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI NARHARI PRASAD SUKHDEO THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SA I): (a) The commissioning of the Second MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Earth Station at Dehradun in December, (SHRI NARHARI PRASAD SUKHDEO lqyG has facilitated provision of external SA 1): (a) Two proposals (one in Nanga- telecommunication services via satellite for chia Sub-Division and other in Khagaria telephone, telex, telegraph etc., traffic Sub-Division) are under consideration. from northern and eastern regions of India. 32 satellite telephone circuits and 28 telex (b) Opening of a Post Office at Murali circuits are being operated from this village was examined but was not found Station. justified as per departmental norms. It has enabled introduction o f Inter- national Subscribers Dialling which is now available round-the-clock between Telephone facilities in Koraput, New Delhi/Bombay and all cities in the District Orissa U nited K in g d o m . 3073. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO: W ill the Minister of COM M U N ICA- The Station has also the capability to TIONS be pleased to state: handle International TV, and 9 I*1*®?" national TV programmes and 643 Radio (a) number of the proposals to provide Photos have been handled from this telephone facilities to Block Headquarters Station. Sub-Post Offices, Tdhsil Offices in the District Koraput, Orissa are pending for Through the network of direct and examination with Sub-divisional office 5 through-put satellite links operated from and Satellite Earth Stations at Pune and Dehradun, 99% telephone 95% ot (b) how many of them will be executed telex and 75% of telegraph external in the current financial year by the Direc- traffic is handled - satellite. tor Telephones, Orissa Circle? Written Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answers 40 (b) Rural Satellite Television direct 9. health service in rural areas- broadcast services were provided to select- medical centres . 93* 96 ed villages for one year on an experimental basis from 1-8-1975 to 3 i“7_I97^- This 10. improvement of medical col- experiment was known as SITE (Satellite leges, reinforcement of Instructional Television Experiment). An cardiology and thorasic operational service for direct broadcast of surgery .... 26*00 television programmes via satellite to rural areas will be possible under the approved 11. cancer Institute . <4*97 Indian National Satellite (INSAT), multi- purpose domestic satellite project. 12. building programme . . 106*40 13. continuance of 396 sub- centres .... 18*00 Memorandum submitted by Orissa for the improvement of medical (c) and (d) The item ‘Health* being in institutions the State list, it is for the State Government to provide necessary funds for the schemes from their own resources. However, in 3075. SHRI GANANA TH PRADH AN: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND regard to centrally sponsored and purely FA M IL Y W ELFARE be pleased to state: central schemes, assistance is provided to the State Government to the extent of availability of funds with the Government (a) whether Government have received of India. It is always open to the State any memorandum from Orissa Govern- Government to approach the Planning ment in connection with the medical Commission with full justification for any institutions and the health services of special help that may be needed for pro- Orissa State; secuting important health schemes. (b) if so, the facts tnereof: (c) the steps taken in this regard; an d G.B. Pant Hospital, Port Blair (d) the funds needed for the said health 3076. SHRI MANORANJAN BHA- development programme ? K TA : Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAM ILY WELFARE be pleased to state: (a) whether the present facilities in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN hospitals in Andaman and Nicobar Islands THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND are insufficient to cope with the increasing FAMILY WELFARE (SHRIJAGDAMBI rush of patients; PRASAD YADAV): (a) Yes. (b) if so, the doctor patient ratio in (b) The memorandum contained sugges- Port Blair G.B. Pant Hospital and how it tions for improvement of medical insti- compares with hospitals in other such type tutions and health services of Orissa. of place; and The State Government requested for funds totalling R*- I^55' 2 * lakhs as follows: — (c) whether the requisite number of specialists are posted in G.B. Pant Hospital, (Rs. in lakhs) Port Blair and total number of specialists posted in different hospitals in Andaman 1. establishment of chest and Nicobar Islands Hospital-wise ? institute...... 22.80 а. national programme for blindness . . y j 2 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FA- 3. special problems of tribal MILY WELFARE (SHRI JAGDAMBI arc** .... 210*57 PRASAD YADAV): (a) Yei, Sir. 4. leprosy rehabilitation. 14*50 (b) The doctor patient ratio in G.B. Pant Hospital^ Port Blair is as follows:— 5- specialised service institute 6oo*oo Out-patient Department б. development of indigenous system of medicine . 530*40 One doctor for 138 petients. 7* Ayurvedic pharmacy. 6*86 In-patient Department. 6. homoeopathic pharmacy 3*04 One doctor for 43 patients. 4 i Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 42 Comparative figures of doctor patient in Delhi. The terms of reference of the ratio of other taspitals in similar places Committee and other connected details are not available. are being finalised. (c) Out of the sanctioned strength of 3 posts of specialists Grade II and 6 posts of Recommendations of ARTEP rcw junior specialists, only 2 posts of junior educated unemployment specialists are lying vacant in the G.B. Pant Hospital. The post of Surgical Spe- 3079. DR. P. V. PERIASAMY : Will cialist and the post of junior specialist in the Minister of PARLIAM ENTARY Anaesthesia sanctioned for the Car Nicobar AFFAIRS AND LABOUR be pleased to Hospital are also vacant. refer to page 24 of the Annual Report of the Ministry of Labour and state: (a) the salient recommendations made Issuing of Commemorative Stamps of by the Asian Regional Team for Employ- ‘Kakori Martyrs’ ment Promotion (ARTEP) regarding educated unemployment in two of seven 3077. SHRI SURENDRA BlKRAM: specific fields during 1972— 75; and Will the Minister of C O M M U N IC A - TIO N S be pleased to state: (b) the action taken by the concerned Ministries? (a) whether commemorative postal THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- stamp o f‘Kakori Martyrs’ Sarvashri Ashfaq MENTARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR Ullakhan, Ram Prasad Bismil, Roshan (SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA) : (a) and Singh and Rajendra Lahadi are being (b). The Asian Regional Team for Em- released on the occasion of golden jubilee ployment Promotion rhad submitted a re- o f‘Kakori Case* on 19th December, 1977; port entided “ Generating Employment for and the Educated in India0 in April, 1973. The salient recommendations made in the (b) the number of freedom fighters report were, strengthening of information whose commemorative postal stamps have base for employment planning, reshaping of been released ? traditional curricula in the educational system so as to make them relevent to the working environments and present social THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE needs, ways and means of improving the MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS planning, organisation and implementa- (SHRI NARHARI PRASAD SUKHDEO tion of employment schemes/entrepreneur- SAI): (a) No, Sir. ship development schemes such as the choice of projects, selection of candidates, (b) Fifty one stamps have so far been etc., strengthening of vocatioal guidance issued in honour of freedom fighters. activities etc. A Technical Advisory Committee (TAC) Constitution of M* M. Sidhoo on Statistics of Employment and Unem- Committee ployment has been set up to consider, on a continuing basis, all matters relating 3078. SHRI NATVERLAL B. PAR- to collection of information, tabulation, MAR: Will the Minister of HEALTH analysis and organisation in the field of AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased employment and unemployment. As for the- to state: reorganisation of the educational system, the report of the ARTEP itself had noted (a) whether it is a fact that Dr. M. M. that the several educational experiments Sidhoo Committee has been constituted and pilot projects that were already being to go into the working of Delhi hospitals; undertaken in India were in the direction and of the ARTEP’s thinking. The improve- ments suggested by the ARTEP’s Report (b) if so, the terms of reference of this in respect of employment programmes Committee and whether this Committee and entrepreneurship development schemes has submitted any interim report so far were taken note of in the formulation of and if so, the salient features thereof ? similar schemes to the extent feasible. Steps taken to strengthen the vocational guidance programmes included expansion THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of training programmes for guidance m i n i s t r y o f h e a l t h a n d f a - personnel, conduct of surveys like Indus- m i l y WELFARE (SHRI JAGDAMBI try Manpowers Surveys and Occupational I'RASAD YADAV): (a) .and (b). A Com- Outlook Surveys to obtain current informa- ini ttee is proposed to be set up to review tion regarding employment opportunities- the functioning of Government hospitals in various areas. ' j . 4 3 , Written Answers, . DECEMBER. 8,1977 . Written Answers Jobs prospects on expansion o pends to the trainees who were guaranteed Durgapur Steel Plant employment on successful completion of their training. This scheme remained in 3080. SHRI MOHD. HAYAT ALI : operation till 1976. W ill the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to refer to the reply given to USQ, No. 1517 on 23rd June, 1977 and to When there was no Industrial Training state the total number of jobs expected to Institute at Bokaro Steel City, Bokaro be created by this expansion in the Alloy- Steel Limited had arranged for the training Steel Plant of Durgapur ? of a few displaced persons every year and as large number of vacancies were then THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE available it was not difficult to absorb them. MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES With the establishment of 111 by the State (SHRI KARIA MUNDA) : The additional Government, running of a parallel scheme man-power requirement for the First stage was considered unnecessary. of expanstion of the Alloy Steels Plant of Durgapur is estimated to be approxima- No undertaking, as such, to the effect tely 300. that training and employment would be given to the displaced persons was given by the Bokaro Steel Limited before taking po- ssession of the land. Stipend to youth displaced in Bokaro for studies in I.T.Is. (c) No. It is not necessary in view of the establishment of an Industrial Training 3081. SHRI A. K- ROY : Will the Institute at Bokaro by the State Govern- Minister of STEEL AND MINES be ment. However, the management of pleased to state : Bokaro Steel Plant has started trainig schemes for its unqualified/unskilled (a) whether it is a fact that youth dis- employees, including those bdi.npirj; tc> il e placed from the Bokaro steel city, received category of displaced pe rsons, with a \i<\\ stipend and job guarantee from the to increase tlicir skills in disfici n.t dis- Bokaro Steel Ltd., while studying in the ciplines. I.T.I. from 1968 to 1973; (b) whether it is a fact that the dis- placed people of Bokaro steel city are edu- cationally backward and to give them training and employment was a solemn Doctors' Drugs, alone can't ensure commitment of the Bokaro Steel Ltd. be- Health fore taking their land; and 3082. SHRI D. G. GAW AI : (c) if so, whether the Bokaro Steel Ltd. SHRI KAGHARULAL HEMRAJ JAIN : is going to start that scheme again ? Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FA M ILY W ELFARE be pleased 10 state i THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI KARIA MUNDA) : (a) whether a UN sponsored study of (a) and (b) . The initial survey of the dis- world health trends released in Washington placed families in the area conducted by said that better health cannot be purchased the Director, Project Land and Rehabilita- by spending over more money on doctors tion, Government of Bihar, had disclosed and drugs as reported in the Hindustan that the level of the education and skill Times 011 the 2 1st November, 1977 ; and among these families was low, and that if normal standards for recruitment were to be adopted, the displaced persons could (b) if so, the reaction of Government not be able to secure jobs in the skilled ca- thereto ? tegories in Bokaro Steel Limited. The Company, therefore, as one of the measures for improving the employment prospects of the displaced persons, started a special THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE scheme in 1964 for training them in various MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FA- trades in Industrial Training Institutes MILY WELFARE (SHRI JAGDAMBI in Bihar and in-plant training in steel PRASAD YADAV) : (a) and (b). plants. Thi* was done as it was.felt that Government have seen the Press some, tii&e sould bcr-aUowed for thp State Report in question. Efforts are being Goveramnt agenacs. o set up »ui 46 W iilnlrWi^ppii >M»Zba»l»— Legislation farpartlclp*tionorLa- boar taMfiiikgembnt 3033. DR. V^SANT KUMAR PAN- D I T : W itl th-; M inister o f E X T E R - 3084. DR. RAMJI SINGH : Will the NAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state : Minister of PARLIAMENTARY AF- AIRS AND LABOUR be pleased to state (a) whether it is a fact that India ab- whether a legislation is propcsed to be en- stained frotn the main political Committee acted to provide for compulsory participa- of the United Nations when the resolution tion of labour in management? by Pakistan to endorse in principle the con- cept of Nuclear-Weapon-Free Zone in South Asia was on the Agenda; THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR (SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA) : (b) whether it is a fact that o 1 previous occasions on the same resolution India There is no proposal with the Govern- ment at present to enact a legislation to had voted against such a. move ; and provide for compulsory participation of labour in management. The Gover- (c) if so, the reasons for abstaining from rnent have, however, appointed a Commit- the Canrnittee and the final Government tee on Workers’ Participation in Manage- policy on the use of Nuclear Weapons ment and Equity to consider and recom- power in South Asia? mend an outline of a comprehensive scheme for workers* participation in mana- gement at different levels. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI S. KUXDU) f (a) Yes, Sir. Improvement in Foreigri'Service (b) At the 29th and 31st Sessions of the 3085. SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDEi uSj General Assembly in 1974 and 1976 resp *clively, India had voted against similar Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFA- IRS be pleased to state: resolutions tabled by Pakistan. At the ^o^h Session in 1975, a similar resolution (a) whether his attention has been was adopted without a vote. The Indian drawn to the reported statement made by representative made a statement on that him that sonvthim* is wrong with our occasion to the effect that had the resolution foreign service ; been put to a vote, India would have voted against it. (b) whether the hon*ble Minister had made any such statement as reported in the Press; and (c) India has consistently supported all moves for general and complete dis- (c) what corrective measures are pro- armament including, in particular, nuclear posed to be taken to improve foreign ser- disarmament. The Government of India vice ? • . has declared th atln d ia is totally opposed to n-.iclear weapons and has no intention of developing or acquiring such waspons. India is also not opposed to the concept THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of nuclear-weapon-free zones and has, in MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS fact, supported the establishmen: of such (SHRI S. KUNDU) 1 (a) Yes, Sir. zues in Latin America, Africa and West Asia. For these reasons we could not oppose the draft resolution on the setting (b) In a talk with newsmen after return up of nuclear-weapon-free zone in South from the United Nations General Assembly Asia. At the same time, we could not Annual Session at New York, the Minister support the resolution, firstly, because we of External Affairs said that by and large feel that South Asia which is an integral our Embassies are manned by efficient part of Asia and the Pacific could not be officials, but they needed correct direction. considered in islolation and, secondly, He added that officers in the services, because we are against this issue being de- whe ther IAS or IFS, get cutofffrom their cided at the United Nations before prior moorings and do not mix with the Indian consultations have taken place between people. the countries of the region. In these cir- cumstances the abstention vote cast by (c) The Ministry of External Affairs India -on this issue in the current'sesskm keeps its training programme constantly of the UN General Assembly iscorrect under review and action is being initiated and fully consistent with our stand on this to correct the defects observed by the usue. Foreign Minister, Written Answers DBC1CMBBR 8, 1977 Written Answers 4$ Instructions have been issued by the Representation from Paradeep Shramik Ministry recently emphasising the need Congress re. verification of Member- for our Missions abroad to take steps so ship of Union that they are easily approachable by our people and to win their confidence. 3089. SHRI SARAT KAR : Will the Minister of PARLIAM EN TAR Y AFFAIRS AND LABOUR be pleased to state : (a) whether the Ministry have received Denial of visas to Camillas of a representation from Paradeep Shramik Indian immigrants Congress requesting for fresh verification of members list of trade unions by rejecting the earlier verification made during emer- 3087. SHRI RAJKESHAR SINGH : gency : and Will the Minister of EXT } RNAL A H A- 1RS be pleased to state: (b) if so, whether Government propose' to order fresh verification of membership- before recommending for labour represen- (a) whether wives and children of Indian tative to the Paradeep Port Trust ? immigrants are being denied entry in Britain; and THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR (SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA) : (a) Yes, Sir. (b) if so, whether Government have taken up the matter with the Government (b) Verification of membership of of United Kingdom, and if so. the results unions of port and dock thereof ? workers functioning in the major ports including Paradip Port as on 31-12-76* has already been ordered. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI S. KUNDU) 1 Visit of USSR Team to Andhara Pra- (a) No, Sir. There are, however, delays desh and Orissa in' the screening of applications by the British authorities in some cases. 3090. SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA r Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES (b) Yes, Sir. The British authorities be pleased to state : have assured the Government that though (a) whether a team of technicians from the number of applications for entry is U.S.S.R. has visited recently Andhra large, they are doing their best to expedite Pradesh and Orissa States, the places where the scrutiny of applications and issue of bauxite is available to establish one or entry permits. two aluminium plants in the country ; and (b) if so, the places they have visited and the report submitted by the said team; and the action taken by the Government Passport Regulations of India thereon ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 3088. SHRI D. D. DESAI : Will the (SHRI K AR IA MUNDA) : (a) Yes, Sir. Minister of EX TER N AL AFFAIRS be pleased to state : (b) The Soviet Team visited bauxite deposit areas at Sapparla, Jarela and Galikonda in Andhra Pradesh and Pottan- (a) whether, passport regulations were gi and Panchpatmali in Orissa. The made more stringent recently after the Team abo visited the Vizag Port, Calutta, new rules came into force on August 15, Ranchi and Delhi. No report has been 1977 ; and submitted by the Soviet Team. At the end of the visit, a protocol has^ (b) if so, reasons thereof ? been signed between Bharat Aluminium Co. and the Soviet Team. The Soviet side has expressed their readiness to assist THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Bharat Aluminium Company in prepare- MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS tion of a Feasibility Report for an (SHRI S. KUNDU) : (a) No, Sir. Alumina plant based on bauxite deposits in* Andhra Pradesh, to be set up on “ com- pensation” basis. The Soviet side will- send their propos als in regard to the study (b) Does not arise.$ shortly. 49 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 50 Production of Steel w w u w hwt wt if 3091. DR. BALDEV PRAKASH : («ft v f f j n ) : ( v ) t f r ( v ) . Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state : (a) whether the production of stainless 1 1977 % 12 fcr % fotr steel billets and rods has fallen after the »TF«rnft t f k t t T f t 1 ^ r reduction of import duty on stainless steel ; 3TC % *n*nfr*ff (b) if so, the quantum to which the pro- * n m f W i 5 *t : ^ *rf. duction has fallen and reasons thereof ; and t 1 if wrpft wwff fan (c) what steps Government intend to take to bring the production to the same ‘T'lV'l | f I level as before the change in import duty ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI KARIA MUNDA) : (a) and (b). Import duty on stainless steel plates, sheets and strips was reduced by Notifica- tions dated June 18, 1977 but was subse- quently partially raised on July 15, 1977. 3094. 5 * ^ WJHf : WT Stainless steel production data are collec- ted for blooms and rounds, plates and v r *r?ft «m i »V sheets and forged blooms and rounds. Therefore, the production data on stain- less steel billets and rods as such are not available. Compared to an average pro- duction of 1060 tonnes of stainless steel (v) wr ?hrt v 5HTer per month during first six months of 1977- 78, total production of stainless steel in v fa fa w , 1976 % *ratar July, 1977 was 883 tonnes which can be termed as low. However, from August, % ^ « K i JT sr^ ft% 1977 onwards there is an upward trend in production. The highest production of % % tt 2o?n^ wr*FtTrftr anrr^ 1273 tonnes was achieved in September, 1977- * rf ; (c) To push up sales and hence produc- tion, Alloy Steels Plant, Durgapur re- ( ^ ) w t w f a f a duced the prices to some extent in August, 1977- 4k«ppc % v t f ift^PTT s r t ^ faw fafarST fflTT % jn n w w n f (»r) ^ n f r a r h r 3092. tf’TW'jft >nf: W W T ^ ^ <711^ TT f« H K swrer t o «idi^ i ^ t t ? «w am *j pI t o o t if tt w (*>) *FTT fa r faftdC, inft («ft*!msrw) : (^) s i t t % W'ST «Tf TR*T % 1977 ^ % ( ^ ) lit 5FT 2 4 .4 0 spT | ? T rftr * r f f 1 Wrttte* Artawrn D®CEM8Bltt 8;* t&tl WHtten AnstDft' 52 ■ ( * ) *ftr fr). - ' H i t f^fewTirf VT WWW + + ^t r «rfrFF ”+> % rx ( ^rns'fl' % ^h^fst Sr *H TT *ifl|W W T P T T ^TRTT | I % f f r s r t p t go^wrm) : qifwi ^ h i ift^nnTT 5HTR ^t 'SfT T^t |> I it ^ ?t »r| I I ?FT ^ftT^T f^% ST+T5H ^T ft* T 5TRtW it cTlttW *P?faFT ^t * fo SPT 5THT f a e r ffa r ^ ^ T R *T?t% *Ft f w ^ T *TftaT ^flfyd it s+ifsid snr^T pn (V>^ w t^ Pt'd'T fipT ?FT 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1 ?lt * f, 77 28-2-77 «T^|;^T, 77 16-10-77 229 2 3 ■few *, 76 1 -1 2 -7 6 fcf^T,76 31-12-76 30 4 q r^ffr+7) ^1^1 73 3 1 -7 -7 3 5TEFT, 74 7 -5 -7 4 2 8 t 5 ITT#, ['77 3 1 -3 -7 7 77 6 -6 —77 «7 6 ^h m3» H4H<, 76 30-9-16 'IHTfl, 77 18-2-77 140. 53 * Written Answers AORAHAYANAU7; tM>48AKAyw m** Answers 54 . Med ical Insurance for Doctors* Meeting ofvTndt : Union Rtpre«r Patients sentadves of Unions in Steel Plants l 3099. DR. BAPU KALDATE : Will 3097. SHRI VASANT SATHE : Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY be pleased to state : WELFARE be pleased to state : (a) whether it is a fact that the Govern- (a) whether attention of Government ment had convened meetings of the repre- has been drawn to the news report ap- sentatives of the trade unions of workers pearing in the National Herald on the in mines and steel plants recently ; 13th November, 1977 under the caption “ Medical Insurance for doctors, patients’*; (b) if so, the purpose of these meetings ; and (c) the names of the trades, their representatives invited for these meetings ; (b) if so, the reaction of Government and to the observations made therein ? (d) the total expenditure involved in the organisation of these meetings ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI J AG DAM- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN BI PRASAD YADAV) : (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI KARIA MUNDA): (a) and (b). Presumably the reference (b) The report of the Dcspande Com- is to the meetings convened by Steel mission set up by the Central Government Authority of India Limited of the six to enquire into the facts and circumstances Study Groups consisting of representatives leading to the death of Mr. Justice D. S. of Steel Plants Managements and Trade Lamba of the High Court of Punjab Ur ions constituted to study various aspects and Haryana along with the Memoran- of the working of the steel industry and dum of action taken thereon has since make available their suggestions/recom- been laid on the Table of the Lok Sabha mendations for its improved functioning. on the 14th November, 1977. (c) The names of the trade union representatives who were invited to attend the plenary session of all the Study Groups held on 30th November, 1977, are given in the Statement laid on the Table of the House. [ Placed in Library See No. Gold Fund in Vayanad area of LT-1298/77]. Kerala (d) The required information is being collected and will be laid on the Table 3098. SHRI P. K. KODIYAN : Will of the House. the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state : (a) whether the Geological Survey of India proposes to carry out a systematic survey of Vayanad area in Kerala to study the occurrence of gold in the sands there; and 3100 . : wr (b) if so, when the survey is expected ■Hot ^ «ldl^ ctA,|T far to begin and when it is likely to be con- cluded ? 2500 ^ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI KARIA MUNDA) (a) and (b). The Geological Survey of India during the Field season 1977-78, propose sflT to conduct geological and geomorpholo- gical surveys for precious metals induriag gold in the/ Nflambnr i Valley soulb ot («r) *ftsnrr * t «rkr WayaaiL .Therwtrk *ia liMj ta contimi*' until 1980. 55 Written Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answers % m4 o Ih 5Ttff i f «PW Tribunals-cum-Labour Courts on the basis of work-load. The post has been ftBUf^RT fa n STT^TT ? left vacant till the report of the above Unit becomes available. w i t > w i w t w (« ft >r R w V*TV §«tw HW) : ( * ) UT W < Establishing a survey Medicinal Plant unit In Aligarh Muslim % Hfrit ifa: fret ^mrf if for University ^•TFTt ^>t *TRT?t 2500 ®TT % 3102. SHRI NAWAB SINGH CHO- UHAN : Will the Minister of HEALTH ft, ^Tlq'JiPiTi SvfhphT *TC AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to refer to the reply given to Starred. Question No. 668 on the 28th July, i t t i ot*it | fa *rrfc- 1977 and state : * n f t sN r «rfa: f r s t grerf % (a) whether the said meeting of the Healtli Ministers and Secretaries of Health %n?rftr wr I Ministries has since been held ; («r) Fflrpff «r (b) if so, the decision taken in regard to establishing a Medicinal Plant Survey S X (b) The scheme is being taken up during, Appointment of Presiding Officer the current financial year. In Industrial Court No* 2, Dhanbad (c) The Regional Reasearch Centre, 3101. SHRI CHANDRA SHEr HAR Jhansi has proposed to survey the forest SINGH : Will the Minister of PAR- areas of Aligarh during the second fort- LIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND LAB- night of December, 1977, and will continue O U R be pleased to state : till the Aligarh scheme mentioned at (b) starts functioning. (a) whether there is no presiding Officer in Central Government Industrial Court (No. 2), Dhanbad for about a year ; Direct Dialling In Towns of and Andhra Pradesh (b) if so, the reasons for delay in the appointment of Presiding Officer and the 3103. SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU : time by which the appointment would Will the Minister of CO M M U N ICATIO N S be pleased to state : be made ? (a) whether direct dialling system has been introduced in Andhra Pradesh towns \ THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR (SHRI (b) if so, names of the towns; and RAVINDRA VARMA) (a) Yes, Sir. How- ever, all the references have been trans- (c) the places to which direct dialling ferred to Central Government Industrial can be made ? Tribunal-atfn-Labour Court No. 1 & 3, Dhanbad. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) A review is proposed to be conducted MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS the Staff Inspection Unit of the Ministry ; (SHRI NARHARI PRASAD SUKHDEO Finance to re-organise the Industrial SAI) (a) Yes, Sir. Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 58 (b) Guntur, Hyderabad, Kakinada, ie) It w31 not be posuble to provide Rj^anmundry, Tirupathi, Vijayawada and telephone on demand in larger towns and Vishakhapatnain have S. T. D. facilities. cities for quite some time in the future alao. However special efforts are being made to (c) (i) Guntur to Hyderabad and provide connections to all these who were waiting for telephones as on 1-4-77 with* Vijayawada ; in the next 2 to 3 years. It is hoped to achieve this in majority of cases except in (ii) Hyderabad to Alleppey, Bombay certain cities. In such cases also efforts are Calcutta, Coimbatore, Delhi. being made to meet the present demands Eraakulam, Erode, Guntur, as early as possible. Kottayam. Kozhikode, Madras, Madhurai, Coty, Palghat, Quilon Salem, Tiruppur, Trichur, Trichiy, Trivandrum and Vijaya- wada ; (Hi) Kakinada to Raiahmundry, Functioning of Telephone equipment# Vijayawada and Vishakhapatnam (it;) Rajahmundry to Kakinada. 3105. PROF. P. G. M AV ALAN K AR : Will the Minister of C O M M U N IC A - (v) Tirupathi to Madras. TIO N S be pleased to state: (vi) Vyayawada to Guntur, Hydera- bad, Kakinada and Vishakha- (a) whether Government is aware that patnam. several new telephonic equipments installed at various large and important places (pit) Vishakhapatnam to Kakinada in the country at huge costs are not given and Vijayawada. efficient, effective and prompt servi- ces; Telephone Connections in Gqjarat 3104. SHRI PRASANNBHAI MEHTA: (b) if so, how Government are tackling Will the Minister of CO M M U N ICATIO N S the matter with a view to ensuring speed be pleased to State : and satisfaction in the utilisation of the said equipments; and (a) whether the demands of the Gu- jarat State in regard to telephone connec- tions have been met ; (c) broad details of the steps and measures being taken in this regard ? (b) if not, the total demands pending before the Ministry upto November, 1977 ; and (c) by what time alljthe telephone con- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE nections are likely to be provided ? MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (S HRI NARHARI PRASAD SUKHDEO SAI): (a) and (b). No, Sir. Only in a few THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE cases, some defects are noticed after the MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS installation of equipments; these arc looked (SHRI NARHARI PRASAD SUKHDEO into promptly and appropriate remedial SAI) (a) No Sir, as in case of other States, actions are taken to remove them. it has not been possible to meet the demands for telephone connections in Gujarat State in full due to limitations of resources (c) Some of the measures taken for available for total development from which improvement of equipment are : resources for telecommunication expansion are provided. The resources available in successive plans have been inadequate to (i) Analysis of shortco mings; permit telephone demands being met in full. Within these resources priorities are (ii) Change of defective components ; given to meet the demands in rural areas and smaller towns, thereby building up (Hi) Modification of circuitry and waiting lists in larger towns and cities. production techniques as neces- sary. These modifications are in- (b) The total demands pending upto end corporated in the working equip- of November, 1977 were 21,717. Most of ments in a phased programme. these demands are pending in Ahmedabad, Actions are also takep to incor- Surat, Baroda and other larger places in porate these changes in equip- Gujarat. ment under production. 59 * Written iAm u m m JMCSMBEE18, 19.77 Wrtttcn SAmwm (So ct»asjb*r iXtV^plme (b) Yes, SiftJ&obai tenders'wereiovited Exchange in July, 1974 for the crossbar equipment against the 5th World Bank Telecom. 3106. JML SUBRAM ANIAM S WA M Y : C redit. 4iffl 1 the M iaster of C O M M U N IC A - T IO N S be pleased to state: (c) Does not arise. (a) whether an order for JBLs. 25 crores worth for crossbar exchange and micro- wave has been placed to the Japanese Companies by the former Minister o f Communications and the former Secretary, Chromite lease in Orissa Ministry of Communications; 3107. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Will (b) whether any tenders were invited by the Minster of STEEL AND MINES be the Department for the purchase of the pleased to state : above equipment; and (a) the names and particulars of parties (c) if not, the justification for purchase who have been given Chromite Mining of equipment without tenders ? lease in Orissa; (b) total lease area allotted to each party; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (c) whether any malpractice and irregu- (SHRI NARHARI PRASAD SUKHDEO larity have come to the notice of Govern- SA I): (a) The fallowing orders for crossbar m ent; and exchange and microwave equipment were (d) if so, the details thereof and action placed by the P&T Department on Japa- taken thereon ? nese Companies at that time against World Bank Credits:— (i) Crossbar Switching equipment— THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 60,0.00 lines total cost approx. THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND Rs. 9*37 crorcs in Novembcr- MINES (SHRI KARIA MUNDA) : D ecem ber, 1975. (a) and (b). Based on the information (ii) Microwave* equipment— route furnished by the State Government of Km. total cost appro v. Ks. 2 0 Orissa, a statement is attached. crorcs in N ovem ber, I J 7 >3 . (c) and (d). A complaint regarding (iii) Crossbar Switching equipment— alleged irregularity in the renewal ir« 20,000 lines total cost approx. 1974 the lease of M/s. Misrilal Mines Rs. 3* 5 crorcs in June —September, (P) Ltd., has been received some time 1976. ago whic'i is under examination. <>l Wrtttnf^AnHrtri AORMBAIVASA t7^>Ut9 (SAKAy -Wrtittn -Aftswert <562 •* E C* « r- c •’S 3 op *T3 o . .c C * ^ C. o c * ^ u3 I** TJ V t y 'j. £ c c c o £K C o X £ w & w CO 1^ in o £ i s o x o W CO w C 2 iHn U pC LT) CO rt o C'*' ~ ? & a C CC s S . o «£> <6 3 Wr itten Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answers Ttl tpkonc eagiacering department 3108. SHRI SHYAM SUNDER fifo, fiw? vtifhr GUPTA : Will the Minister of CO M MU- NICATIONS be pleased to state : 3109 . *nf (a) whether any period for stay for tfWTT fJ’TT spfqf •an officer of the Telephone Engineering Department at one station has been prescribed and if so, how long and if not, the reasons therefor; and (t ) w t % ^ i*i« (b) the number of officers of the rank of Assistant Engineer and above who have ■stayed in the Capital for the last more % ^ 10 IHFd, 1977 Vt tnp than 5 years (inclusive of their stay in 51 TFT ^ f*F 3T *IT ; the Delhi Telephone Distt. Reasearch Wing and DGPNT) ? (^) ft, su m q wf* hut : (?) % (*r). ft 1 ^t-yrrt- CM«frU % gRT'fl ft ^t gftyi] srvri^fl % qr f^npft 15^7 ^ STT3 T 2. % ftpr tftt TO 5l%fw W % SfocT 1978 5r xjs^-r* H smT^t *r % srr?^ xrfMkwflfvz 5T»nn^rn^t i 65 Wr itten Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 66 3. irWr, «rk *Hf*RT«rnr % ftrcj jttt trft ’pITTcT % f^TT tftsf «Tq*T ^ 5PT% tit gf^ 9T «Tf*r % ft I I iilaiMla JT\^?r Hid I % vly k *TT SF*T spiff qr w gfasrr ^T sfif^ ftcTT I ■A. *TT«MKT €ftT 3ft, 'jTPT- 7tT«r<<, *rmrer, «ftr^t, snr^fr ^PTC, WFFR, ^TJT, , % tfttf TfVoj? | i znwrw ST*T^ft, STRt sufe % farr tfftj % 3TT 9TX TT 3R ftRf fFTT, V'U flfa? tc.^ii'l % fatT ^ ^ ( s. if gft srrqfgr^WT ttw ^ r % *r*nr srtr srprfawrsft HT Hft faRT ^T flH>dl fa ft *TPT *TT zf*R?T 5fk TR-dflMH TFjff % sftr q^lfe^f % SfcR fTHffXcT *rPff sffc <^,+f~M0t' ■HWlf 'TT ^ITf «t>H'l % tRFTT srmUr+dT WT TFFT fam ^TRTT | I 7. *hfl d ^i f«H 'Jtl S. - »T ^TT t> cTR f^HRHt T^t 'jfT T^t | I d^lPH, ftrrs % ?rfnr sftr «nft % ^R«T 5RT? Bf f ® fg^T? fr TOT | ?fk ^ TfaT ?ift *n i ■9 * ^TT "uTm 'f^ wi qw^sr % w i w 7T H^TldK fd^RIHt Wt ^TTrft I ?ftl ^MMT 3tt% | i OTTfq-, *m?dd % ft^r fft?: srsrR crrff % ^ttttt 3nr ?n 3tft % ?tw ^t ft ^n% f i «nft rTRf gfft 5jtt vfinRT % ^TT ' 3TT TfT ^ I 10. t$R^r WTT^TT ^ 1978 if 20 Hit'll ^T I^T E^«Rr ^TTW ^T^^tjft^RT SRTf ^ | I 67 Written Answers .. DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answers 6& i i . *r w t wifm ^^¥tm ^^fr% =frrniTim rT | f%%Tnr?r w»<5TT qw#? *pt srrmf^r *r *rnra W T T I Export deal with China for pig ( ’J ) irf? tft 5TTOTT*TCT Iron by Sail f^ f'T q frf^ r% if ^ far Si io. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD VERMA : Will the Minister of STEEL ^ftfT ^?mr it AND MINES be pleased to state : t y r a n t t r ? TOrri sWt |f (a) whether it is a fact that an export t ; deal with China has been finalised for export of pig Author iron by Steelrity of (*T) WT *mt giftq-, t India Limited; rr^r M f w ^ tw firfir f h w (b) i f b o , the details thereof; | %^5hr efwTfimT % ?nfpr (c) whether China has imposed condi- sn% | ^ i% sfrft ^fr^r TT^ff tion that the Iron should be of a particular % sT sn fsm r ir ?nrrT t ; s f k Steel Plant in India; and (d) if so, the details thereof and the (^) WT %^T ^RTfTT ^ imf time schedule for completion of total export of the deal ? % cfTO W[ TT^T TOHTT T t f^ T T T THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ^ f r ? THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MIN- ES (SHRI KARIA MUNDA) : (a) Yes, Sir. cT’TT *T*(MU *T TKRI (b) to (d). It will not be in the commer- *Tlft («ft rrt7 »T ^TT^r) : ( ^ ) cial interest of the country to disclose ? t I further details of this export deal, except to metion that China has not imposed any condition that the pig iron should be from (*l) STTT qrfTrT f%tT JTtT any particular steel plant. srfsrfaw fafa srfafar*, 1 9 7 6 ’srfipp ^ r n r f?rftr ^ ’ ft t o t t T^t I i jrfwfNvrvT Tmt ffm fam sm (*r) : srhnfop 3 iii. iftfcnr tto fart : % sn fm % ’JT?, w i swfar vnf?r«n «r*f faq + ^ i«i ftrfsrart ^ sncft %?sta t o t t % Jr ^ncft •Ft fr^TT +Oi : 1 1 ^tfr ct«tt ftnrn: (TtsmR (^>) W^TT 6 111 MIPw 9Ft ?r^) 1966TT5*r^T^ s tft «rfrr^r t o t v f e f m STTT t o STTrTT IN ? xftr Vtft srfipF ftffer «rfsr- fonr fwfera- ^ («r) < ifac'T ^ *TT% fTTO ^ % ^ tpkt TOfTTf ** 1^1*41 ^ J fiprn: ^ | i 69 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 70 Representation from integrated medi- nwraif it* u w mrs cal practitioners Association Rei Medical Council Act . TOT 3 1 1 4 * >o 3112. DR. V.A. SEYID MUHAMMAD: Will the Minister of H EALTH AND JTf «frTFT f^TT f ? : F A M IL Y W ELFARE be pleased to state : ( ? ) TOT sTWMl?( THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ( ^ ) ft,r r > ^ r srf* ft*re?TT THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND TO TOT (b) It was decided to enforce Section 17 of the Indian Medicine Gentral Council Act, 1970 and the same was brought into *NnT * TT^T ( « ft force with c licet from the 1st day- of October, 1976. flrrpfr h w :(?) gn^TTsni w s t t o t c f?rrft ?r ft Daily Delivery facilities in Sangli | 1 sT*r (a) whether proposals are under exami- TO*Tf9T?RTT ft 5TSJT nation to sanction 5 more Branch Post fi, TO’tf ? ^FTf ^T’TcTTT M I q ?* Offices in Sangli Division, Maharashtra, to extend 100 per cent daily dilivery facility cTT$ '[ft T q W f I and (b) if so, the names of the places pro- ( 1 $ ) ^FRTrf^FT srnfV ftfarcr posed for such Branch Post Offices and the time when the proposals are likely to ^TTCcT 3T?- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICA- Tifteft % ftnr f^TPT ft §TIMMI$ TIONS (SHRI NARHARI PRASAD % ?TT*T %^T qft ^ I I SUKHDEO SAI) : (a) Yes, Sir. (b) The names arc as foUows :— 1. V etti. Compulsory retirement of officiate by G.M.T. Orissa 2. Zolam bi. 3115. SHRI RAMA CHANDRA 3. K o n h o li. MALLICK : Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to 4. Ambole. state how many officials have been com- pulsorily retired by the G.M.T., Orissa 5. Pedond. Circle, Bhubaneswar during the emer- gency and how many of them have been The proposals, if found justified, are reinstated so far ? likely to materialize by 31-3-1978. Written Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answers 72 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICA- TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR (SHRI TIONS (SHRI NARHARI PRASAD R AV IN D R A VERM A) : The composi- SUKH DEO SAI) : The number of tion of the Overseas Employment Cell is officials prematurely retired by G .M Tele- at under :— com., Orissa was nine. Two of them have since attained the age of superannuation i.e. 58 years. One of them has since expired. Six remaining officials have since been Designation of the post. Num ber ordered to be reinstated. or posts Sanctioned *To TPT Deputy Director Section Officer 3116. Turtm t 5TTf*t: w r Research Officer w rp w f w Vt srfrwrt VFiTrv Senior Investigator 2 «T^ tit fr*TT ^ f a : Assistant . Junior Investigatoi (^>) tH(I tK'oK f a f a w ?T%»T Stenographer Grade* II 1 ft«T if 7To THT TpftfT ^ftf^TT U .D .C . . 1 if ^ rN 1 Junior Computers fi f^RTW ?Tnrt»T^T st Rt # ? * ff«TT’T£?t T T L.D.C ...... 1 t # t V srh: zrfa- eft ^fxtt ^t r o t Total : 20 I ; v k (W) TTo vTtf^TT t^facflT *rr% snrn: «T ?fk Administrative Employees in the faff stfTR tit ^ || ?th: Headquarters of Sail fair forct^R sfpff % T R t- 3118. SHRI G.S. REDDI : Will the ^IfT tit *TT | ? Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state : w k 'T fr ft< fr?qrt«t (a) the total number of administrative employees in the headquarters of SAIL* *T *T ? H if TT5JT *M t (v ^ W irT C ft STfTT? and : (*p ) sthc (sr) *rfrr% tit (b) the total amount of money spent f r r t £ tit srfrnrt if T on them and on renting of offices by SAIL in 1976 ? srr t 1 w tit ^ ^rreft ^rpT^rft % if f i R R fairr srt THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND W 1 1 MINES (SHRI KARIA MUNDA) : (a) The tot.il number of regular employees at the headquarters of SAIL is 223. O f these, 89 are executives and the rest Overseas Employment Cell non-executives. 3117. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY : Will the Minister of PARLIAMENTARY (b) The total expenditure on p a y m e n ts AFFAIRS AND LABOUR be pleased to and provision for employees in 197^ to state the composition of the Cell known was about Rs. 37.44. lakhs and on renting as O/erscis Eniploymsnt C^ll ? offices ab ut Rs. 9.8 6 lakhs. Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 74 Haj Pilgrimage (*r) * t t f r o S if I 3119. SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA : t o f f T t ^ zft^TTT I Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFF- AIRS be pleased to state : s flr ^ f, s ifk r wm 1 1 (a) whether it is a fact that several Haj pilgrimage ships in the current period (^r) W *R+TC Hh R WT^T have sailed without their passenger capacity being fully utilized, despite the if fact that there were large number of applications which were refused by the Haj Committee; (b) if so, the number of such ships and * T 7 R #5TT?T7 if TTSU the vacant seats therein; and stctr h m ) :(^) (c) whether Government had, injthe s 312 0- 3CTT faff? TTWT J *T TTVfiPC V % : ( ^ ) st st t ir w n ir s t ^ r ferpfV % STTOTT 7T SWFPf if 3IT% I; W ^ R f “FT ^, iTot>v,i ftnjV 5TT5 (sr) ir^Ticr if srrerr ssT+Tflr «rf"Pff if fw W | :— fWft f' tfk # fref if ( 1) v r r fw m f e p t t ; viw(h,4 < i 75 Wr itten Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answers j 6 (2) ^ %«PTWPT wraT 1 % 5?fft fft% frit 5TT 7^1 : (3) ^ f^nr m ?fft 3T% ^li^l if (1) q f e ^ftf sr?^ $ w t (1), { 4) it f^TTT qT w% ?rfsr^ *Ft (2), (6), ( 7) ?IT (8) if % fotft 3R9W 37% ttKt % fa% tft sfrft % sRnfa srraT ft ?ft 3.2 ^HTf % f%tT (sTWI ' ■>1H «TMI I ft>oifto(2 *ft?r) c^t % ^tf (5) st ^nx % in Wr ■st^er ?fft ^rr^rr stt y+ai 1 ^FT qT f*T% S3 TfNt (2) *rfc «l?tf (3), % ^Tf % ( h (J *sfl f^W if, ^TfTW % f^R q^ TUT % (7) ^tNt *t w ^ ft urmlwcr st +vt % (8) if otst 3n% wrar WTTf^T W1 % ^vR- ^ ^nr 25 JTf^RT W T *fr gfwanff % % T^X ?O mrf% XT3K5 qT wjHdHc\ ^tffe^T ?TciRT fa®f STHT^ft ft^ SFt qrot * ft I ^tt % frgffer fo*r §t i ftonjt ( 1) : ?ftTTT^dT ^T if vdM^+d ’‘TfrpTt rTc JTCT? % WffMI 5® ^ ynr*rr % w^mPfd ^ vt is irfgwu $* vfcrfcw *t $ ftFTFt ^TT l« Wri tten Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 ( SAKA ) Written Answers 78 faa nrft (3) : q^rrst swnff ?r ft>ft 9ft faff Spfft if 3f 5T+M< (£oft *rf *ft fr) apfiriT ?rnr^ft Tt gtm w ftaT, sff m t % fa* »rn 72 t smi'Pfd«0 10 srf^RT ^£ I pTErffTcT m ^t ^>^FT fftriT % ^fdR^d ftft I feonjt (4) : ^ %?rrsn’T *rr?r st ^ rt % ^ft 5TT “fftfw ffrT” it # T m * r 5T'*fr ir % ■o ^T^PR: ^T I Wf ^ 5 001-**&(' ft«ft 3TT SFdrfad 3T5f^n: % ifT’pf *3t^rc *frqr % wr ^rfr ffrTT ^r^TTpTcr ^ # T^rtr % ffrft i f^r? JUtf JTf ?ft ft JTf T^q- ir^rrf^r ^?r gryjf % srfsnp fa) ^ %sff ^ fir* <*m ^rff fpft 1 fY? *rcft fas? ? srsf fe q^yt : irf? s^rrfer 31^7 ^j- (*) **!&-( 1) :- ?TTf«R» ffe* ’TyT iTRTEn: % qTtJR WT w mrr m ?n?»rPwT ft fft STCrTTfacT TT ^ W SiPR ( 1) ^TTTTf^TrT STPTi^ft ST^rf^ % %W ST?( Tf ?TR ^rat qffrf 5RT 5T^R ^ % g-rra-T qr ^r srfaT f>ft ^ % 5TOTt qr ^ft gr^T ^rr ’tw^t i ^Tfft 1 (*f) «W[ft-(3) : 2,000 m (2) ir ^T^n: jffr 5rfa‘^ 5pt =ct % ’Ttsr Jf Qprr ^ tft fRT :WTfft I 3T5TT ?T O :— (*s) ( 2) : ^ % 5TOTT R sr^r sn% sTfrqri wfr "JTn^q' £T2T 750/- ^ ?ifgr^ WT “tftfrRT f^r” % ^q- *r spff cf 1w ^Ift ft^T ^Tif^ I jttt | frra-^r sinw ^ it *rf f:— (1) sft^r; ‘‘^tptt^ %r” ir («r) «WV-( 4) : ii f^TR m s.fr^ I fft srk srewrr % frjffcr %ffy+ ^t 'jT'TOwr ^r fi^r Mi°ft ^ ^n^nicr gt^R- % 5T^TT5rf % SPTT5R % M 1^7 (2) *Tf 3TWT "tftfira- ffrr” t ^T^Tf Bf 77J «n% 31% ^TR 5Jm 1 fqci ^l+tl< inn ^ Hwrrf ^t fafi^d ^ ^t ift^r (3. 2 faoTfto) «R> szrfanrt, ffrr ^t % »ila <. ft»ft =5TTff^ I ^|qt( 4) tfifl ^<.1 <|) v) % I^IM «rm w ft itt ^TPff qr *?taT wr (2) ^TJT 750/-^o % Tft fasrffar »TPR?t ^ srtott qr ItftRi *Tft ft*TT ^Tff^I I ^ ^t 5|% spT firs 5T fKTT ft I 'V ht ^t 1f?r” ir «rtfr « t wc (y) ^fr-( 5) : ?> fimc % ^ TO% if «r^r *t ^n% sntft ^ >flr ^r- it mh«wt *n% f^r ^ *nti % 79 Written Answers DECEMBER 8, 1077 Written Answers 80 ( * ) ^ - ( s ) : ^ r Jr « W i. 4 H I 5 TV®IT 9ft S’PF ff^srmt % f^nw q?t ffte % i^ r f ( l ) s r k ^ Im ws ??ri% ^ftftra1 ^p t f t 1 f t . *rm %^rw st »ft?r ((3.2 f% o?ft o ) % % 'SfTln < ^t ^'JiK ( 1 ) qfar h s r * «mr % ¥T^ r X ^ ^nwwr % s R R e r ^fhrr *Ft 500/-^o ^ f^TT ?t t Nt *T ?rf£Rr 5Ti t ftft ^fTf^ I ^T$ I I (^) ^ ft-( 6) : ^T ’tWI *T ^rt?TT ipr ^PTER % 3TFt <*Ml TT^H! sft aftflH dTc^^i , * n z ^t soo.'-^o ?f\7 «trt ?rrfe srerrafoF sfaTt % MWlf^d 5RTETT o^t ?rf^Rr^T ^ i ^pt i f 1 o '=nz ^ t <«h*4 2,5001— PiHcqfl ^ t I , ^ % 55Trnfrr ^nfw w r 750 j-Ti o % srftpF TRTtlT ifiwr J% 5fTrf 'TT. ^TT ^T^RTT |, *lfT ff*TT ^Tff*T I Ji^rrftrr si^^K ?ftr ipr < •FT fn ^ l 'jTWT ^T2TT 3,000 —? • (®) quft (7) : &T n fa f ^ % ?rfsr^ -t ^TeTT ft w ^ t^ t % #FTT 3TT% ^THT TRTqT ?^TT fT *TT V iTl^Z 'TTfeTT fTTT ^^Tf^RT 5Tfft ?HT«pt «F : ^ f? t f t t t ^ t ^n^FT^i % ?rrfV+ ??T Sfici ^ t $T^T ^Tff 5RI nara^T fa w t f^t m w n w r ^Tft ^ f% M taifq n ^ft niwPfWT ^ I f H T ^ T ff^ !ft T ^ f t r>sn^T ?F*T % ^nr 5 ^T ft*TT ^Tfft I ( 1 ) q f ? 5t ^ % tffcTC 5 1 + ^ T it ?T^T ^ I r’Tl '■Jintioql T t Upgradation of Post OflBces in West Bengal fT3TTT qr W T ^rfsr^ fT rft WTf«T^F STTJ spt T T IT 7 5 0 1 -T o *T STfsnF *Tff ft^ft 3121. SHRI K. B. CHETTRI : Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS I be pleased to state : (a) the names of the Branch Post ( 2 ) zrfk TfV?T % % «ft?R Offices which arc going to be u p g ra d e d in the West Bengal during 1977-7® > %^T TT^ WT^ft ^FTfl^TT 3T ^ITT ^ W ft eft STTC spt T*F*T 500/-^o (b) whether the upgraded. Post Office will be provided the facility of telegraph % ?rftw ?!^f I r and telephone; 81 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1809 (SAKA) Written Answers (c) whether it is a fact that the three ( » r ) fw T *ff | f? 5ftfsraT Sf hill sub-divjpions of Darjeeling District have only a limited number of Branch Post Offices and sub-Post Offices; and (d) if so, what steps Government pro- pose to take to the immediate future to set up more Branch Post Offices and up- grade more Branch Post Offices to sub- fattf W W if TO q * o Post Offices ? (? ) : 5ft ft I sftftqT *R?TT ?t *TPxT S W T % STRrfta ?T??ft?r ?Tfa?T THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICA- ? r ?r | f w t *ftf*PTT ?> srfir- TIONS (SHRI NARHARI PRASAD SUKHDEO SAI) : (a) The names of fa*rfcr%*mjR f w r-N ?O r branch post officcs to be upgraded in West Bengal Circle during 1977-78 in ? T ift Sirfaw | I rural areas arc: Hatgachha, Sandeshkhali, Nazat hath kola in 24 Paraganas District under BarasalDn. Chotomollakhali, Fateh- ( 13 ) ■ ?T 5M pur, Taldi, Bakrahat (in 24 Paragnas und- er South Presy. Dn.; Baghamundi, Para TR 5JT% TT WRrftq- ?Tfa?t *tft in Purulia Dist. under Bankura Dn.; *Trff ? t M *1+1 Pd (b) Out of the above 15 post officcs, '■'lidI ; f^T:ST TTTI s f a S H t a V rftfaHT «tft STTTrfaT %*TT 3123. ITo 5TWT I 3122. : t ot tot *rar if^t q f qrrr% ?t w n ? ^ t Tfcft qf ?t fiTT ?^T f? : f ? : ( ? ) TOT ^ <+1 < ?T f W T ( ? ) w r ^frf^TT 5r^r % o^t wIt frrsrf ? ? t % Hn t*. ?ft5jt %5fT ? t n m m ?T% ?T ?rfa? wraft? gsrn: fewr % | ; *ftr S R T fa f w (5 ) irf^ ft, at ^ TOT (*sr) qfe ft, W*TT *T*TW if TTWT*Wt («ft (^ j) i h i f Ptid'i s R f f r s k t t ? 5ett*t) (^ ) %ftr (*?): 5f t 3R T I ? 3fr ^ I % 5EJT8TR VK t[2T ?f>T ^ * f r j w h : turn *r?n^r if Trm Tr wtf^cq- ^HT I I (v ff wrfen w ) : snrt 1974-75 & 1976-77 if Destruction of imported Edible Oil WTTcT s t t t 17 ^ f f ^tt^t at Bom bay fFTT W I ^5% 5ft| % f-wfd 3124. SHRI NIHAR LASKAR : Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY 1974-75, 1975-76 sffc WELFARE be pleased to state: 19 76 -77 if 'W ?T: 7 .7 0 'T TT T, (a) whether hundreds of tons of impor- 23.10 STR 71.33 *T 7 T f ted edible oil pot destroyed at Bombay in the European Express ship due to defective ^PT «rr I ?*T W W R TRTc\ 3rTRT storage as reported in the ‘Hindustan* daily dated nth Aug., 1977; f|cT if ffPTT I (b) if so, the details thereof; and (g r) ^ 5% 5f t | (c) the quantity and the value of the edible oil that got destroyed ? MHI T^T 50^3^^%^%- r T T l T r f ^ r THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FA- MILY WELFARE (SHRI JAGDAMBI PRASAD YADAV): (a) Government’s attention has been drawn to the news Issue of Life Insurance Policies to Coal item which appeared in “Hindustan” Mines Workers, Dhanbad on the nth August, 1977 but it is not correct that the edible oil was destroyed 3126. SHRI A. K. ROY: Will the Minis- at Bombay port due to defective storage. ter of PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS Some tins containing the oil were damaged AND LABOUR be pleased to state: in transit due to rough weather and the contents thereof became defective. (a) whether the Commissioner, Coal Mines Provident Fund, Dhanbad has (b) The ship, “ European Express’* car- paid the first Premium amount of 225 ried RBD palmolein in 15*5 kg. tins. accepted proposals and the Policies issued In transit the containers were damaged by the L.I.C. of India Jamshedpur to the due to rough seas. 1676 damaged tins colliery workers under the Coal Mines were segregated on arrival. Provident Fund Scheme, 1965; (c) The quantity involved on account (b) if not, the reason for such long of damaged tins is approximately 27 delay; and tonnes and its approximate value is Rs. 1*88 lakhs. (c) action taken or proposed to be taken against the officials responsible for this failure ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE . tt<> : MINISTRY OF LABOUR AND PAR- 3125 LIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (DR. RAM JRTT fW W I sftT WT*T ^ KRIPAL SINHA): (a) According to the information furnished by the Goal Mines fJTT far : Provident Fund authorities, no accepted proposal by the L.I.C. of India in respect of colliery workers is pending for payment (ap) W if of first premium in the Jamshedpur Division. f v y (V e rt 3FT fsnfsrfrvr’nrr; (b) and (c): Question does not arise. 85 Wr itten Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 86 T M W M Sf( Jrefafa WK. ^T HTeTR | | ^rRf ^wi %■ *tt*t ?ft% $ fer irtr ^ ;— 3127 . «ft »fteTHW qwr: wt (0 yWIT e(d 1^ 3Ft 2*sl f% > 1- (wr) ^1T it fMt^RPT 2. tf«TT VRcT^T, ^TET sftr ^zpjT fjofrsRf it 3. ?nfNt ^rra‘3rfjT5Fr §?fp?iR swtfl’ 4. WrpR 3*1% SfeT SJTJft I 5rk qf? ft, eft wr ^rnir | ; (2) fWhaw (*l) % ^TR ^T 1. ^RtfT^RT eftm fefnr^ft it foR-fifR FTRt T=t 2. 5R focR ? r sR^rfcrcr j^fftrR %7g- j? m 3. 3HdM^< ^rr t|| ; 4. f^TRTTr^t (it ) WT ^RT 5ffc 'flTrfjr f^ Rf 5. ?SRT if Fzmff tc ^fr^R %^s 6. *sft?r% % *rm^ wrrqft wrtf fw^msfhr 7. ^O^ii^tii | 5Tft qf? ^t, rft t foR-ftR WTT TT ■srt^ 'jrnr^T ; 8. TT3r»r^r 8. qO^i® (*T) fUT ^eT ?>ff fe#3Rf 10 . ?«TRta *T*T ’T^TOTeff mtzt 5t I ?mT fW S*TR't TT 1. ^TR 3FMf>ftF H^FTR %?sff ^71 2. ^TRT ^T % 8. ^§RT h mhu 5f TT$y srat (sft 'HjsfT Mtii* ttW) (^>) I 9. ^fr 10 . (sr) vt* (*r) ^t«j; farfor ^ % 11. '*Kk ^TeTJT fs^l'Jin % 4 ^THt *lcl fWhR% lowHf^ftr 3R^ r« 14. 4, 1 5 . y f l ? 172 Hi'i ”M*< M . ^ cTOTpT, 'S*w ^Rfsr % ^tTR %$ W t i f f z v 16. t^sRTVsr ^ %3T, ipTPJ^ % *j?r «(dl^ *TCT ?T*ft 3 0 ‘ ( h i fTST t^T^Nr % ^rnr i 5 8 fe»r T^t i fft % W R T ^TR (*!) ^Ki P ^ i ^iT '3T«r *ft 'TcTT r^F ^ yrPT ^1+1 T 3T ^ I ^ fcn | *tt g^rr fa^Rft |, («r) STft (T) *Kd|£<. *fR SFtcTT 'd’r t ^ t i fR feUT «imi ^ I fefhsnff $r gwTtr 14 *nwr % ^ t t ^uf^M "Tof ^ i ^rRrsrf^r fwfVra- -q^ll it TTT f^T Project allowance to P&T workers in Dandakaranya Project area 3TT% 31% ^PT^T % TO R 3 ^ R T tR 3130. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO: s n t | | i Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- TIONS be pleased to stale: (a) whether the Project Allowance to the P&T employees working in Danda- karanya Project area of Koraput District (Orissa) which was being sanctioned from nf*ftrT m *rfN v %^r, time to time 011 the basis of orders of the Department of Rehabilitation, has not ( t t ^ t r ) v t v r ^ v r e r been rcccivcd yet; and (b) if so, the reasons therefor ? 3128. «ft *fteT HTH (g) cpn ^qrKk t f h : *u w < ?r t Smelter Plant in Balaghat ^ cT *n *TH T «nf?WT % OT crf gq | *ftr qw^'jr ? t foerrc ^ *1^1 H1 ^1 ^ 3132. pnr *** veprm ; (n) wt *re?rc ?r fsRR ipttj?: w Fvrm vfr qfrmrr VFimr ftr€t t 114 ^^ % f%tr JRT *Tf «ldi«l ?t ?>Mi f? I ,h srtr ^r^t, eft wr ? tt *t (?) ?r wrnr?rf V «&r if f^rfrft gf hiw sjraprr ?t ?ftr »rt |; *ftr #»TT *Tfran 51 TIWT *rsft («ft jRffr snara g*it* *nra ) : (?) (sr) zrft ft, eft ?rf fe^ft ** k- Hlfa+I % f^TFT % W OT W st ? t f?rnn *fa Tforrc ? 5*m!r ft if ^ ?m5ft# ?t ?rf^rfr ^r f^T if TT77 (aft 3T*T*Sirt STHR OT 7* ) : »RT t I (?) snr t I ^fmgr faart, ^TTeTjT ( trtftr ) if (q) fqv^rfm q? f^rrnk w- tTf^gfir % ?T ftrafaT TcT % f^rtmr ?t ?tf awrq- •Tft ^ 1 3133. *ft ^tsmiST : f^TT *NlTT qf ?t f^TT ?^if f? : HT35T f^ irim m m f^r J?ftq^ ii[waNi 'tst | ; srk *rfe ft, ^ ^3^% ? m f? : m | ? (?) WT tt^t^t-tt^t M # T (»?) WT ^?T ^ T ?T f^T?ra Li ■* % ? m % ?f n \ < m * ^?TT I m n^ft 5T?TT ?Tq ^ ?T sftf, tat ^ frm ^R’fassr TfT | ?fk JITq: ^TTR TfeTT |; *ftT u&ff % % JnfT qi^T ft, eft W % WT ?TT'T t I 91 Written Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answets 92. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COxMxMUNICATIONS (SHRI NARHARI PRASAD SUKHDEO w srfwfhfgvf % 5*t ir SAI): (a) No, Sir. *rn: (b) and (c) Do not arise. fopFFRt I TTrT ^StR ^ % fatr sr? srk ft, ?ft ^r% wm |; Hill compensatory allowance in H.P. t f l r 313G. SH R I D U R G A C H A N D : W ill the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS (*T) ^TT ^ W ^ t ^T ^TTIT be pleased to state : ^r % ^rr% ?rwr % fw r (a) whether it is a fact that the Himachal Government give Hill Compensatory 5q^Tt ^ ^Ft ^ t; sfh; *tfe Allc >\vance to those employees working in Himachal Pradesh; ft, rft f*T% WT | ? (b) whether it is proposed to give Hill Compensatory Allowance to P & T employees working in Himachal Pradesh; *f^rr t o w if Trm *nft («ft (c) the details thereof and from which ^TffT STOR g^%5T am ) : («f) date the allowance would be paid to them; and ^ft ’Tft I U.'W^ji m4 5t^> 5PT % ^TR- 3PT TfT o I (d) if not, the reasons therefor ? TIIE MINISTER OF STATE IN (g-) ^ft fr ^r sra % *rmta 1 THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICA- m s ?RFt if> ^drrr fbrwrm srt^r TIONS (SHRI NMU 1ARI PRASAD S U K H D E O SAD : (a) No Hill Com - f t «ft 1 it^ ?£-?«nt tfr ^rqT fort pensatory Allowance, as such, is being given to the employees of the Ii. P. *ror |, (d) Does not arise. Discretionary powers to officers for Communication facilities in Hilly Area Auto-Exchange and Micro Wave Sys- tem in Himachal Pradesh 3135. SHRI DURGA CIIAND: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS «m7. SHRI DURGA CHAND : W ill be pleased to state: the Minister of C O M M U N IC A T IO N S (a) whether there is any proposal under be pleased to state : Goremment’s consideration to give special (a) whether it is proposed to estab lish discretionary powers to officers for sanc- auto-exchanges and microwave system tioning communication facilities in hilly in Dharmsala, Palampur and Chamba area* ; in Himachal Pradesh; and (b) if so, the details thereof; and (b) if so, when the* system would be established; and if not, the reasons there- (c) die discretionary powers enjoyed by officers for this purpose at present ? for ? 93 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 94 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICA- THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR AND TIONS (SHRI NARHARI PRASAD PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (DR. SUKHDEO SAI) : (a) and (b). RAM KIRPAL SINHA) : (a) It has been decided to open an Inspectorate Office at Port Blair. An officer has been X. Automatic Exchanges : There is an relieved by the Regional Provident Fund acute shortage of automatic exchange Commissioner, West Bengal to take over equipment. It has therefore not been charge at Port Blair. The Office will possible to establish automatic ex- start functioning very shortly. changes in replacement of existing m anual exchanges as fast as is desired by (b) and (c) T h e required information the public as well as the department. A is being collected and will be laid on the phased programme for establishment of Table of the Sabha in due course. auto-exchanges is being followed. In this programme, priorities have been given to State Capitals and District Headquarters. Scheme for Educating Rural Dharamsala and Chamba being district Workers headquarters, automatic exchange equip- ment has been programmed for them for 3 >:jo. DR. P. V. PERIASAMY : supply during 1978-79 and 1979-80 Will the Minister of PARLIAMENTARY respectively. The exchanges are expected AFFAIRS AND LABOUR be pleased to be commissioned during 1986 and to state : 1981. (a) the salient features of the scheme Palampur not being a District head- initiated by the Ccntrrl Board of Woikers quarter will have to wait for some time Education for educating rural workers ; more till supplies of auto equipment get augmented. (bj the locations of the proposed seven piloi projects ; and 2. Microwave: While no microwave link is planned lor any of these stations, a (c) whether this programme is likely multi-channel UHF link has been planned to be extcncd to 40 centres of the country ? on the Dharamsala-Jullundur route. This is expected to be commissioned by 1980. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR & Another UIIF link Chamba-Dalhousie PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS fDR. is being planned. This will be taken up a RAM KIRPAL SINIIA) :(a) The broad little later during 1978-83 roll on plan. purpose of the Scheme is to promote among rural workers a critical awareness Trunk traffic being low, no microwave/ of the problems of their socio-economic UHF link is being planned from Palampur environment and their rights and obli- for the time being. However traffic is gations as workers, as members of the being reviewed from time to time and a village community and as citizens ; and system will be planned as soon as found to help them to assume an effective and viable. responsible role in solving their prolems. Under this Scheme, pilot projects from 7 Regional Centres of the Board are to be Opening of Provident Fund Office conducted in 1977-7^. These projects at Port Blair would cover landless labourers, agricul- tural workers, rural artisans, forest and 3138. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAK- fisheries labour, marginal peasants, educa- TA : Will the Minister of PARLIAMEN- ted unemployed in rural areas and tribal TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR be labour. The topics to be covered will pleased to state : amongst other things, have a bearing on : (a) the reasons for which the proposed provident fund office at Port Blair has not (i) Peasant Movement and Rural been opened so far; Workers Organisations ; (b) whether a number of provident fund (it) Rural Development and Trans- cases due to irregularities committed by formation ; the employers are pending with the Comm- issioner of Provident Fund, West Bengal; («i) Social and Legislative Measures and including Land Reforms ; (c) what specific action has been taken (iv) Co-operative Education ; and by Government against the management M/s Albion Plywood for their failure to (i>) Population Education and Family deposit provident Kind dues ? W elfare. Wri tten Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answers 96 (b) The locations where the pilot (c) if so, the details thereof and the projects have be in conducted/are pro- reaction of Government thereon ? p}»ei to be conducted are : ■ 1 Ahmedabad Re- 1. Devdholera Village gijml Centre. Distt. Ahmedabad. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND 2. Zamp Village Distt. FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI JAGDA- Ahmedabad. MBI PRASAD YADAV): (a) to (c).The 2. Bar^illv Regional i.Jeolikote Distt. information is being collected and will Centre. Nainital. be laid on the Table of the Sabha. 2. Bizamau Village Distt. Bareilly. 3. Biilai Regional i. Chadahkuri Distt. Centre. Raipur. 3141. : wr [fRW 2. Being surveyed. wtr fJ'TT Jamshedpur Regional 1. Khunti Distt.Ranch* fa | Centre, 2. Bahragora Distt. Singh bhum. (^) ^rr if ^i^Tl 5. Mangalore Re- 1. Mangalore Distt. ^gional Centre. South K'anara qfrsnr 'JtM’fl cT^rr %sfr <^ hhi 2. Gazinur Distt. Shimoga. Jr tlfolT =3TT JTRTo *6. Nagpur Regional i. Selsura Village Centre Distt. VVardha. I ; sftr 2. Sindewahi Village (^) eft fa**T Distt. Ghandrapur. 7. Tezpur Regional Locations being Centre. surveyed. (c) This will b~ considered on the basis of the experience gained from the pilot projects. ?FTTcT wtr ^ tr ihfrsnr TfiRi («ft spfim t o t ): ( t ) Edible oils imported from it dc^TI f^H t^PT ^FTTcT =FT ^TTff % Malaysia and Singapore snrRT: stor j® ’tiwr *rt *r 3140. SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN : Will the Minister of HEALTH AND ^F>nr ?tr zwurr sRTfart- ^ FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state : r« r^f % f 1 far (a) whether Government’s attention have b^en drawn to the news item appear- ing in the ‘Hindu’ dated i-10-1977 that ^ ^TRWPrnTT (b') whether the Customs and Port Health Authorities have air dashed their 'samples to Calcutta for a second check by the Central Food Laboratory ; and ftTCT-fw | %fa?T t^FT ^FTRT 97 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 9g % ipVTcT % far? yif'R ePTT Concession offered to people of Indian origin to leave Sri Lanka S T F T R ftFP T STTT JTH ? ? T P w * « l V S WK, f w n T r f f m SHRI ANANT DAVE : SHRI ISHWAR CHAUDHURY: f ^ m cr«rr g m w r ? SHRIC.K. JAFFER SHARIEF : ?T% ^TPT StHlct I'St'Cl ^Tfa€f SHRI K. MALLANNA : SHRI CHITTA BASU : Sf gtrcr ^n% % f%tT ^ srtR^T ^ SHRI NAWAB SINGH CHAU- H A N : t | t I ff5TTT eHTT |*T^ SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO : % fa*T 5FTRT VP^TRf *f VIWlH+O ‘h' Minister of EXTERNAL sfhTlOl^l % 5TT9TT TT t^FT ^FTRT ? t AFFAIRS be pleased to state : (a) whether it is a fact that many ?Rft sftT f%sf % 'drMKH % f^Ttr people of Indian origin have not so far accepted Sri Lanka’s offer regarding ’TTT ^Tf^iT H T T P^^TT ?T T^t ^ I concession to leave Sri Lanka after the ?imT | ft m IWFFli % ^ ft 3TT% attacks on them ; % ^r#r€t gafaft tftr *j?m if (b) if so, what was the offer made ; (c) whether the Government of India *n%ft i had obtained the full information about the attacks on the Indian Nationals in Sri Lanka and the losses suffered by them ; Adulteration in Grourdnut Oil (d) what steps have been taken by Go- 3142. SHRI G. K. JAFFFR SHA- /crnment to help these Indian Nationals; R IE F : Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased (e) whether Government is satisfied with the arrangements made bv the Sri to state : Lanka Government for protection of Indians there ; and (a) whether it has been brought to the notice of Government that adulteration (f) whether Government propose to has be<*n found particularly in the Southern send a goodwill delegation to Sri Lanka States, in groundnut oil which is a to help in promoting good relations ? common man’s cooking medium ; and (b) if so, whether Government have THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AF- investigated the matter ; and if so, the FAIRS (SHRI S. KUNDU): (a) and (b). steps Government propose to take in this Yes, Sir. To the best of the knowledge of regard ? the Government very few persons of Indian origin eligible for repatriation to India have taken advantage of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN offer made by the Government of Sri THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND Lanka of providing free passage and FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI JAGDA- payment of Rs. 500/- as ex-gratia com- pensation for the loss/damage suffered MBI PRASAD YADAV): (a) and (b). by them during the recent disturbances The information is being collected and in that country. will be laid on the Table of the Sabha. 2912 L S — 4 Written Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answers 100 (c) The Government have received ReWtwiig of Agreement* wMi information about the losses/damage Sri Lanka suffered during recent disturbances in Sri Lanka from some persons of Indian 3145. SHRI CHITTA BASU : Will origin, who have been registered as Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be Indian citizens or have applied for such pleased to state : registration with the purpose of eventual repatriation to India. (a) whether the Government consider it necessary to review the implementation of Srimo-Shastri and Srimo^Indira Gandhi (d) Their claims for compensation Agreements now, in view of the changes have been brought to the attention of in the political situations in both thl the Sri Lanka authroities for settlement. countries ; and (e) T h e Governm ent of India is informed (b) if not, the reasons thereof ? that the Sri Lanka authorities are taking all possible steps to protect the life and property of persons of Indian origin in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Sri Lanka and to prevent the recurrence THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL of violent distrubances. AFFAIRS (SHRI S. KUNDU):(a) and (b). The implementation of the Agree- ments of 1964 between India and Sri (f) The Government have always fav- Lanka on Persons of Indian Origin is oured exchange of visits between the under constant review at the official two countries at various levels. However level. There is no proposal for the review no specific proposal for sending a goodwill of the Agreement itself. It may be added delegation to Sri Lanka in the immediate that the Supplementary Agreement of future is under consideration. 1974 covering 150,000 persons of Indian origin is to be implemented only after the 19G4 Agreem ent has been im ple- mented. Mineral resources in Eastern Region % w t * i f f w f 3144. SHRI A. K. ROY : Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state : 3146. aft : SRT WrTFr fPTT ^ % : (a) whether he is aware that the rich mineral resources in the Eastern region -of the country could not make appreciable ( ^ ) W T W % *TT«T j p T impact on its economy because of explo- ration and exploitation of these minerals ; 3 f f ^ f f % and | (TT (b) if so, the action taken by Govern- S W c T ^ < R ment to stop the evils and develop the mineral resources directly concerned with i i ; the economy of this region ? (w) srrqtfr * 37% % firtT TT THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES o ?rsq fw i,' (SHRI KARIA MUNDA): (a) and (b). s r fo fr f + i 4 +'dW f *TTfe wr srf^ ftfsr There has been continuous investigation and exploration of mineral resources by 5FT | ? Geological Survey of India, supported and augmented by the Mineral Exploration Corporation and State Government agen- f a t a r (« ft cies in the Eastern Region. In fact, there has been an appreciable impact ) : ( v ) Jfiff I on the economy of this region as a result of exploration and exploitation of the mineral resources of the region where (v ) ftnnt t i , * J W T T , the investigation and exploration of mine- ral resources has been intensified. n z jx % * i 4 +dW f % srfw- 101 Written Answers AGRAHAYAflA 17, i#M (SAKA) WHtteii Aiiiwers 102 H r a -trfSm TT WTT vT WRxT (»r) «prjfT ^ri ^*rft 3TTTC * SWT $ I *W STTR 1956 OTTT 408 % % sf^rftr-w^r tftfoitr srk «ra^T I ^T^Tft % SHR * F T ITI^T % ^ETWT t^t | *rk ^r ^ if 4i* y P a d ^hRSff % 1TTTF9W TT ^ 3[fR W PT q-T-HWrft WTSTR Development and utilisation of * m fatten mpr Iron Ore reserves In Cltirian area In Bihar fao, llw st VT STVT^hFT”T 3149. SHRI R. L. P. VERMA : Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES 3148. T M M TH STITT? : be pleased to state : Crater ^nr rT«n «m *raft (a) whether the Central/State Govern- ^ 1 S t. 1 s'jsfit^r fa° sttt ments are planning for the development and utilization of iron ore found in large ■H'fl5 % «rr*:3 r 28 s r ^ r t, 1977% srd 1 5rfi#rqTT, 1956 ^ O TTt 408 % (a) whether the Management of Bhilai ^Tt pt c T ^t h t f ^ ^rft Ti^ta Steel Plant have developed their ancillary industries ; and %cT it, ?TC% eH^T it %% ^T t 5TtT (b) is it also a fact that they are not rfr S7T% I ? recognising the selected units as ancillaries to their plant and developing further ancillary industries ? fro rtm «m *nft (*rt **rf ) : (*) sftr («r) . THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND sft, fvt 1 w fs^^Ft >o smtsR- MINES (SHRI KARIA MUNDA) : (a) and (b). As a result of the encourage- sp^Ss* fw tf ««rfaici fafa?r ment given by Bhilai Steel Plant, a large ’TSTf % fiRTTf ^T «Rlt ^ T cRT number of Small Scalc Units have already come up at Bhilai, producing goods that ^T *1CS^ ^ 7?TT ^T I are supplied to the Bhilai Steel Plant Written Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answers. 104 and others. Proposal for recognising some Health Minister made no public criticism of these units as ‘Ancillary Industries’ t j * • former High Commissioner of is under consideration of the manage- India in the U.K. at any meeting during ment. his visit to U.K. from 2— j6 September, 1977- T ^'s *s a ipatter left to the discretion Russia's propositi for a Three- of Ministers visiting abroad and there is year Moratorium on Nuclear normally no occasion for such criticism* B lasts 3151. SHRIMATI MRINAL GORE : Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFF- AIRS be pleased to state : (a) whether the Government have Bauxite Exploration in Surguja taken note of the proposal of the Soviet district of Madhya Pradesh Union for a three-vear moratorium on nuclear blasts ; 3153- SHRI PARMANAND GOVIN- (b) if so, whether Government have DJIWALA : Will the Minister of STEEL considered the proposal for signing of AND MINES be pleased to state : the N.P.T. for a limited period ; and (a) what steps have been taken to (c) if not, the reasons therefor ? exploit the huge reserves of bauxite in Manipet plateau in Surguja District of Madhya Pradesh ; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI KUNDU) : (a) Gover- (b) is there any proposal to establish nment has seen Press reports to the effect a National Laboratory by the Council’ that the Soviet Union has proposed a of Scientific and Industrial Reserch in ban on nuclear weapon tests and a Madhya Pradesh for the development moratorium on peaceful nuclear explosions of minerals and forest resources ? for a period of three years. (b) and (c). There is no change in Gov- ernment’s position of not signing the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of THE MINISTRY OF STEEL & MINES N uclear W eapons (N P T) as it is an unequal (SHRI KARIA MUNDA) :(a) A feasibility and discriminatory treaty in its present report was got prepared by a Soviet agency form. for setting up an export-oriented alumina plant based on Mainpat bauxite deposits^ The feasibility report concluded that the exploitation of these deposits will not Criticism by Health Minister be economical for export of alumina. It of Indian High Commissioner, was, therefore, not possible to proceed London further in the matter. 3152. SHRI C. K. JAFFER SHARIFF : (bj The Council of Scientific and SHRI K. MALLANNA : Industrial Research has under consideration a proposal to set Will the Minister of HEALTH AND up a Research Laboratory in Madhya FAMILY W'ELFARE be pleased to Pradesh f >r building up of design, enginee- state : ring, development capabilities, and appro- priate technologies, keeping in view the (a) whether it is a fact that the Health requirements of that State. Minister of India while he was in Britain cricised the Indian High Commissioner at every place wherever he met with Indian and British people : and (b) whether the Indian Government think it proper the role of a Minister Ferro Manganese Plant in Madhya to criticise his own Ambassador ? Pradesh *154. SHRI PARMANAND GOVIN- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN DTIWALA: Will the Minister of STEEL THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND AND MINES be pleased to state whether FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI JAGADA- the Central Governniei t have formulated MBI PRASAD YADAV):(a) The Union 105 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 106 any scheme tf> est*bHfh a ft n c -n ? rf si <:c *plant in Madhya Pradesh for the exploi- ^5T if WIW T5T?f Vt tation of vast deposits of Manganese in »rfa*T the State ? 3156. « f t T h r s r m THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Vt *T%CT STfTTT W l : THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI KARIA MUNDA) : ?m TUT 5TTOT : No, Sir. w w tr qfrw ir ??trn»r *raV ^ ^rrr% ?t f ’Tr ?^r f? : ( ? ) ^ ^TTifW W lfw j q'T^PTT % *n rft STrnfa 5T3? TR^T if SIW eT? f?cT% w K *enm Tsr^f sf~r srftrerir forr 31 5 5. SKT!? : w | sftr ^rir % f??r% uufar wr ?nr «m*Teft*r| «n=n% *WTC*ZT TST?T ?T ^ft^rfVq-f jf^pT cpy fTCT ? ^ *f % : *r$ I; «ftr (^) fw^TT % srftreniT ???f ir ( ? ) W T 3iTfrRff rl^n 5 R ^ R T 3R- fTftl ^ -H * «fl?l %75hT ?T^? *sTT>T snfrat ? f T[%WTiff ? t ?t«qT f?epft THTfT faf+e*TM*T, ? W (?T®W), V fsrpT % 26 ?w fr fw srrc:-^ w f % 3 jrfcrftjT ?r *r^rt qr !TlT TfT^TT ?ol|l>'i *T TWT ? T To f ; STft ^TT if TTHT*nrt («ft 5rTRT«ftsrm?): ?T HT?TT STTT fq-t^TTr ( ^ ) ' T * j s m fin F %^sf if ^nrn^r 15202 ^ ^nrfVcn 5 f> O 8 0 7 % ?T WJTcTR’o JT?f ferr ^rr Tfr srfc t«t? srfwerq- snr^ar ?r 1 1 srfaren- Rrrf ?t ?Tf q^rt rr^ft | 1 ttjit (*sT) W T ?T<+"R ?T f^ TTT f^TW“?”cn:| I feTRT, f^rHT *nrft f^TT% SRW ^ 7 7 % ?PeT cT? ^d*TR ^ f t ? T %*T if ?T^?T |?ftT aftrem ?nn:eT ?ft t t ft, eft ?*T cT? tftT qfc ?T|f, eft T%T? Trtcft if 3IT ?T 9^PT ?t ? R * r | ? ^RT ?trr I ?ra?elf?ff ?t Slfa- ^ 600 ^?t^T % mWwrWk * p t n«n «pm »nn*ro if 6 0 0 ^ ?t ^iW ht?r («ft *ttht hto ) : (?) f w f t I (*). q?5T ?t 3TT T^t I (^) ^RT ?t 3TT Tft ? t w ift 3rnj?ft i t • 107 Written Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answers io^ fw s j—V n q g u ftr e w n f * h t m Tnwf nftraro^ **- IJR C Q TTi^f * > EEp n f t ?! VT fWVT^rr :— TFi*r/tf* 3R-WTW TSTT jrfsTC^T Tr . ^ * -s. r *TWT Wlfaa *fa *g- *ft*T 5HT- *TTW + i 4 ^ STtft sroiOr^ ^ r % Sff SFTo^WT■o 31%' 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1 MlrW 4 17 21 10l( 84+17) 2020 2 trraTR- — 10 10 10 200 3 f^TT — 31 31 31 620 4 irUXRTo 8 11 19 103 (92-)- ll) 2060 5 ^rnwr 2 9 11 25 ( 16 + 9) 500 6 5T^5T — 12 12 12 240 o o 7 *rnrC\ srtr ^TTifh: — 10 10 7 ■3 A 8 — 19 19 — — 9 %r?r 2 9 11 40 (31 + 9) 800 10 *TE*T ST^ST — 45 45 45 900 11 5 21 26 97 ( 77 +20) 1940 12 1 5 6 13 ( 8 + 5) 26 0 13 qqT^nr — 5 5 3 60 14 — 7 7 l^r| 0 1^0 42 15 ^ft^TT — 13 13 13 260 16 Cf 2 10 12 22 ( 12+10 ) 440 17 — 26 26 27 540 18 f«pR?»T — 4 4 4 80 — ■ 19 a&kwrfCv — 15 15 — 109 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers n o 1 2 ' 3 4 5 6 7 2 0 f f r p r — 3 3 3 60 21 7 4 8 55 182 ( 134-| 48)1 3640 22 — 15 15 15 300 23 irmrH ?rkfNt- w t k j t a — 2 2 1 20 24 srw ^ r sr^r — 5 5 5 tro 2 5 — 1 1 1 20 2f ?rFR f i N f t — 1 1 1 20 2 1 ~ 2 28 »fra-, s r k — 3 3 3 60 29 *rer — l 30 fasfp T T — 3 3 3 60 3 1 qi f A f l r j — 4 4 3 60 770 15202 Agreements/St ate nr. cut f F i o fccc * Statement/Protocol signed was the Agreed singed by Ministers abroad Minutes of the Indo-Tanzanian Joint Commission signed by the Minister of External Affairs during his visit to Tanzania, 3157. SHRIMATI MRINAL GORE : The Agreed Minutes contained a review Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFF- of the industrial and technical cooperation AIRS be pleased to refer to the reply including in the field of energy and given to Starred Question No 50 on the hydrocarbons and trade. Specific propo- 16th November, 1977 regarding visit sals to step up cooperation in these areas of Ministers abroad and state : were considered. The Minister of State for External Affairs did not complete (a) the agreements, statements and pro- the visit to foreign countries during the tocols signed by the Minister of External period April-October 1977, which the Affairs and Deputy Minister of External Affairs and their details ; and under took on October 28th, 1977. (b) The followings Heads of States, (b) the names of the heads and Mini- Heads of Governments and Ministers, sters of the countries who nesponded to who were invited during those visits, the invitations, issued by Government ? have accepted the invitations in principle. (i) President, Prime Minister, For- eign Minister and Deputy For- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN eign Minister of Burma ; THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI S.K*JOTtJ): (a) during (ii) Foreigp Minister of Nepal. the visits of the Minister of External Affturs during^ April-Gctober 1977, to t (Hi) President and Munster iachasge foreign countries, the only Agreement/ cf Foreign Affairs of Afjjanistlan. I l l Written Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answers 112 Liberalised policy for sanctioning experimental post offices kA' 3160. SHRI GEORGE MATHEW : 3158. ijwrni : WT Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- TIONS be pleased to state : iftr THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (5 ) *tfe ft, ^ t *nrcr 5373 (b) Yes Sir. %?3T (a) whether attention of Government have been drawn to the news report appearing in the ‘Times of India* dt. 12-11-77 under the caption IlSCO’S Jitpur Setting op of an Employment Colliery in danger: work stopped ; Exchange on All India basis for Jobs in Public Undertakings (b) if so, what is the reaction of Govern- ment to the various observations made 3159. SHRI GEORGE MATHEW : therein and what are the facts of the matter; and Will the Minister of PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR be pleased (c) the action taken or proposed to to state whether Government propose be taken to set up an Employment Exchange on an all India basis, for the employment THE MINISTER OF STATE IN of the educated unemployed in its Public THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI KARIA MUNDA): (a) Undertakings, on a first come first serve Yes, Sir . basis ? (b) and (c) . Owing to strata movement detected in and around Seam No 14 of THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- the Jitpur Colliery from January, 1976, onward, production was stopped from TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR (SHRI this seam from April, 1977. Production RAVINDRA VARMA) No, Sir, from the other seams of the colliery is, II3 Written Answer* AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 ( SAKA ) Written Answers 114 how ever, continuing normally. Rehabili- qjtfWT STJW ftw Ho 1, tation work at peam No. 14 has also been undertaken. In order to study the problem iftrHo 2, (*« sro) qr of strata control, full-scale scientific investi- gation has been taken up with the help ftfwrtwv mr Trfar of Central Mining Research Station, Dhanbad A report has also been submitted by the Central Mine Planning and Design 3163. sft VflJTO : Institute, after a special study into the w wwtar vra spot ^ ground movement of Seam No. 14 Technical help was also sought from firr fa> • experts in this field from Poland. A team of four Polish experts has recently arrived at Jitpur to study the problem and suggest (*) itfm 1, a solution. qvtfcw 2, In so far as Chasnalla colliery is con- ^wi si^r) % cerned, action has been initiated to recommission the deep mine. An Advisory sreraTforf % rffar wf Jr Committee has been constituted to advise fcftr Trftr w i sfk on the future exploitation of the mine, -consider the safety aspects and suggest t t sstfr f^ft Trftr anfrm the type of work to be undertaken. The two Reports of the Court of Inquiry srk constituted to investigate the accidents at Chasnalla arc under consideration of Government. A request has been made (^r) Trfw % by the Minister of Labour and Parlia- f^rcr ar m srcr wr ^rr mentary Affairs to the Leaders of the various Parties in Parliament to nominate ^ I? a representative each to examine the said Reports and advise Government on the kind of follow-up action to be taken. (*To ) :(* f) %tR (13): ^ rt | Indians holding British passports *HTT ^ VS St STTCnff I ■ft I". w» 3162. DR; HENRY AUSTIN : Will Jhe Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state : TW-CTTT % (a) whether it is a fact that Govern-* ment have written to the various countries to intimate the number of Indians holding British passports, in their countries ; 3164. : (b) if so, how many countries have intimated the same ; and : (c) the total number of Indians residing (^) % f+d} TRtrf^T in the foreign countries having British passports ? cptt viifed % srmid+w % <0 WWTT W W ^ TT7 U W *t Effect of es^jry dsy vaccines on n^jR JRTTT *|W ) : (^>) (sr). <$• +»NPwf ^ #s=rr 5962 3167. $HJU S. S. SOMANI : Will the Minister pf HEALTH AND FAMILY 1 1 WELFARE be pleased to state : 4 (a) whether Government’s attention has fo i +*< liftoff % ^TT*T been invited to the report appearing in the ‘Rajasthan Patrita’, dated the *TR>T t, ^T% ^gf'SRT *»rewf> 7th November, 1977 that administration of preventive vaccines to the children in 3TRTRt Tfr^TTT ^TFT f^TFT Bilara town of Jodhpur District has- % m t tpNt5> % ftr? *N- *rf resulted in suppuration of hands of children in the age group of 4 and 5 years ; I I (b) whether this has happened because the date of use of these vaccines had expired ; and fWTrT % vJ Health scheme on the pattern 3168. 3TT%5* T STCTR *TR3J : of United Kingdom ^TT W I K ^f f^TT 3166. DR. BAPU KALDATE : Will the f a : Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state : (sp) s r t ^raff % m % SFTW (a) whether it is a fact that Govern- ment have under consideration health w n t| ?rw>r ^srf % sm ft ^ (b) if so, the details there of ? ( g ) f f , 1977-78 if, fad* ^ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN srwr=r THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI JAGDAMBl PRASADi YADAV) (a): No, (»r) far^-rc w * W 5 ^ (b) Does not arise. H 7 W ritten Answer* AGRAHA YANA 17, 18KB iS A K A ) Written Answers n g . *f smff *t ir $t Faulty maps of d w t i w h c u m o ? T*H ^ y * w »fr ? • ? i 6q . SHRI D. D. PESAI: WiU the Minuter of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state : h w t t t o t t o if *Wt (*ft f^ T ?TO ) : (*) (a) whether any recent evidence ha* come to light that the Ghaanala mine (sr) ^Rft Tr^rrf % ? t r disaster was due to faulty maps; and (b) if so, Government’s reaction to it ? ^ rr ^trn | eft *r gfasrnr THE MINISTER OF STATE IN % f i 5^5 ^ft^RT t’Mi'fl t t THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI KARIA MUNDA) : (a) 5Rw t t , srsn^niHff^, wtarr and (b). Presumably the Hon’ble Member has in view certain statements m?de by ffarrarf it fft, s*5Fst snfe Shri Bagchi, Director, Central Mining Research Station, Dhanbad, which app- % STOTT if *Tf ^5T 5PT, 4000 «|4'^Ih + No new evidence beyond what is con- tained in the Report of the Court of d^fll+)M *R !f)T ^T^-fiTR ^R Inquiry set up under Justice Shri U. N. o Sinha has come to the notice of Govern- ment. ^>T f^TT w r I I SPTTCT 3TT 7 | | f r 1 9 77 -7 8 % 5 ftT R ipr ?TCT % irftnfi *f t f^ T TTTtf d I Pt‘ Tf ^T fJTfelfr^rt <5T5^T 9VT SFTTrT % if % W’tFRT 'JTT f^TT '5TT ?T% I 3170* t K w » i : TOT 5*913 # q | SRIT% (it) isFTffqT ftrf^T ^ ^t f^T f% : \iTi •O f^r ir >r^l ^T^TT % ^FcFTcT v i a I ^ I (* r ) TOT *Tf ?T5T I HT^FR ^ 5rf if ^rrar % wtt^t ir ^ % ^'jft’Tcr *«rnff % s w e r It ir ^ (w ) f f , & w 3t ^rmt t '3^ 5TWT ^T SRiR f5T W 5FW W « T I : - I ? 3TT ffkOT^ 13 fFTTCT aftr WPI if TW*r SHfaPw. jsrfafrr «TT ^ »nft ( «ft fjfTUT ^»IT) : (v )» 1 4 3fr, f f 1 a 19 Written Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answers (*) 1$ 1976-77 if 69. 22 fit TtfhFT ?t sFTftmf % 314^3 wrar ^frr?»T % *r?raw ?f*R ^TT % fwr if ?nff ^T? «ffff if ^ 1977-78 % f^tr '•IW'WO *T*ff 1w *T?t | I ^TFT +T«sUH) ?T f*m W ?T 5^ g^r-sn 5TOT 73 . 73 srra zh (* t) srk («r). s m ^ i wr tot 11 *Wt trfwiffrfi * fires ?mrft fafcr ffm t o i tt ®5 s* 3171. «ft f*f : 5f F(5»^ if ^W«l TOT fafcsr *rat 4 STT^r, 1977 % *MdKiPt>fl JT^T ?tWT 6287 % 3172 . faf *VfH : % if JJf « (?) TOT S7?TC ?t W «fhr cTOT ?T fttT ^ ; (?) TOT *Tf | f? fM if tfim TT®£ if ^T% ?ITT fsft ^ (*?) vfe ft, eft afro tot VTBTW ?T *TWt ^IMTT-'rat % *n*T- | srk TUft srf?r?Tfoff % tot flFT ?nft ^mr^TT-wf ? t %^r snbrt ?t '5TT Tft ^ ; sR°rre ft fror tot * tt ; (*T) TOT *Tf ^ | f? *rc?n; T* (*l) *Tfe ft, >fr ^TT ^pTJT sifa?TfTOt % ?nf^Tft ?r f; sftT *r?t TOtf? # snmwft |; sik (»T) m^T ?T %^T srihft 5R=m ^ ? f^rir sriTsm ?ft fa^5T H^WW 5? TTTO TT^t («ft f^^5T *TTRTO if TTTO irft («ft f»5j : (?) it (*r). ( s ) w t ^ ^ $*fV % snhft ?t ? t w r o t ^ Errfrof f?*fr qr^T»r^T% *T$r *nhn #W»T*rnT 'TT ^ ; qf<; fft. 3173 * *ft *WH l «*r% ^ | s r t i* %roft % w i W ? i *Tsft ^ci 1^ ^ * r TOWN WT I ? fo r: fata *hmro 5f r w («ft (*?) st t rt ^t prr smfftnTT ^ ° ^ ) : (*) ^ ^ i f WPxfPT rPTT « H I; «p ^ * T \ f o r m Jfo % 0— Un^T fT 'f»*TlVK> *rsm 1 2 3 4 («P) HTTrT-MlfMM*! — srrBifafap0 ’ 23 23 ST 0 ^ 0 fa o ;,! 23 — 23 ^0 ^ 0 f% o 24 1 25 70 1 71 ( * 0 PTRhT W W i t 33 — 33 srrer 14 — 14 20 — 20 67 — 67 (n) 2T^TTT?JT 150 2 1 5 2 - Written An«u>er$ DECEMBER 8, 1377 Written Answers 1*4 ( 2) w m —*fTOT TT frf lf a r * T < N M t f * G f t f S w 1 2 3 4 (*) ^TT 0 3 — 3 —— — 3 — 3 (*c) v if v n f t v rn firP n * ^ ^r^rr^r 1 — 1 6 — 6 • 7 — 7 (n) SIT'TOSd'C 16 — 16 ‘( 3) * 1 ^ 1 — vttttt wt ^rf ^r^rr (%) ^T7rMTiT«mt viNrrt STTWfrrfW 3 — 3 f^i Fm + j^r^r — — — 3 — 3 (*r) Fm hr v«Hnrt y r w fw fw — — — 2 TW 5 — 5 5 — 5 (*\) a m T T s z r 14 14 125 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1889 {SAKA) Written Answers 126 ( 4 ) TTSqr WH'Ctal— anfifWcW , «>> a 1 2 3 4 (*) 15 1 16 PiTh'T1 1 8 — 8 23 1 24 (W) 19 — 19 3 — 3 O 8 — 8 <0 30 — 30 60 — 60 72 (*) 2 74 Size and price of postal covers (b) if so, whether it has been establis- hed ? k 3174. SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pi rased to state : THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICA- TIONS (SHRI NARHARI PRASAD (a) whether the Postal Department is SUKHDEO SAI) : (a) Yes, Sir. An going to publish two sizes of postal covers, Agreement between the Governments of big and small; and India and the USSR was signed in New Delhi on 27th April, 1977, for the establish- (b) if so, whether there is any defference ment of a Troposcatter Communication Link for handling telephone, telegraph, in their costs ? telex etc. traffic between India and the USSR. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICA- (b) The project is estimated to cost TIONS (SHRI NARHARI PRASAD Rs. 3.90 crores and is scheduled to be SUKHDEO SAI) : (a) and (b). Such a completed in 1980. proposal is under consideration of the P&T Department. Application of Employees provident fund and Miscellaneous provisions Tropos Communication Link Act, 52 to factories employing less than ao Regular Workers ^175. SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- 3176. SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU: TIONS be pleased to state : Will the Minister of PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR be pleased to (a) whether the Union Government state : 'have entered into an agreement with Soviet Russia to establish Tropos Commu- (a) whether Employees Provident Fund nication Link in April, 1977; and and Miscellaneous Provisions Act, 1952, 127 Written Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answers I2& applies only to the factories employing Opci irg cf Pest Offices in Gujarat so or more persons;^ 3177. SHRI IPASANNFHAI MEHTAt (b) whether the various courts are Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- interpreting the words 20 persons as TIONS be pleased to state: persons in regular course of employment; (a) whether new Post Cffices are also (c) whether the owners of the factories likely to be opened in Gujarat; are taking advantage of these interpreta- tion to evade application of the Act by (b) how many new post cffices have em ploying less than 20 regular employees been opened during the current year;, and the remaining as casual; and and (d) if so, the steps contemplated by (c) how many Post Offices will be Government to remedy the situation ? opened during 1978 ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR AND PAR- MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS LIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (DR. RAM (SHRI NARHARI PRASAD SLKHDEO KIRPAL SINHA) : The employees’ SAI): (a) Yes, Sir. Provident Fund Authorities have inti- mated as follow: (b) 41 post offices have been opened so far during the current year (1977-?®) The Employees* Provident Funds out of a total target of 91. and Misc. Provisions Act, 1952 applies to (c) 98 post offices are proposed, to be opened during 197e"79 (upto 31 -3-79). (a) every establishment which is a factory engaged in any industry specified in schedule I and in which twenty or more persons are em- ployed ; and Opening of hospital under E .S .I.S . in (b) to any other establishment employ- Garden R e a c h Area, Calcutta ing twenty or more persons or class of such establishments which the 3,78. SHRI JYOTIRMOY EOSUr Central Govt, may, by notification Will the Minister of PARLIAMENT ARY in the Official Gazette, specify in AFFAIRS AND LAICUR be pleased this behalf. to state: (a) whether he has received any com- The Act will not however apply (a) to munication with regaid to optnirg <1 a an establishment for a period of 3 years hospital under ES 1S in G aiden Rcr.ch in case the employment strength is 50 or Area, Calcutta, which is mainly inhabited more and for 5 years if it employs 20 or by industrial woikcrs; and more persons, from the date on which the establishment is, or has been set up, or (b) if so, the action taken thereon ? (b) any establishment registered under the Co-operative Societies Act (2 of 1912), or under any other law for the time being THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in force in any state relating to Co-opera- MINISTRY OF LABOUR A>D PAR- tive Societies employing less then fifty LIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (DR. RAM persons and working without the aid of KIRPAL SINHA): (a) Yes. power. (b) The Employees* State Insurance (b) The Hon’ble Supreme Court has Corporation who were ask eater to the needs of insured persons wwrn, im m r famf in Garden Keach area, which is not far off. However, the feasibility of opening another hospital at Garden Reach area 3180. sftvffaf *nfq£w : !RTT is being examined by the State Govern- ment. ^TWTT Wt *if ?t I ?^rf? : ( ? ) to t JjsRRr % sm rnn: f ^ r w b r r K f a m s r h i ? % *r ^m^srr£T aw+i % w w r iift ( * ? ) ^ <115^ % 2 0 5jrft+dil'l ^ ^fT d ( ? ) % 3H F T ? it ?*:ii ?«! ^ ? * t m ^TR^TT ? (^Tf) % JTFRtW ?T? |fft «^i< ihrRiv Jf ttw i *r^t ( v t ?it ^ t ?t oTT^«n ?T?t ? t ? t *t - t ^ R sRmr g w i n ?t t *t ) ( ? ) ?^ fsrr «rr wtr f*t ^t t it w t 5ft. I srofr ft | ; (W) if 50 5TT??T^fCr? («r) -d'w T srr ?«r f > ? t ^T^TT^TT * r f t iftjRT (*r) ^rr sirmfnff ^ ^rrt ?t^rrcft < ft f? q f *n^r, 1978 it ?tf *tft nr wt^Thh fw «n srta: 3 ? f t ^TTtriTT I C T m % 1 T T W R *TTRW Jf TTS7 («ft H K ffT s m w * r c ) : ( ? ) srte ( ^ ) . *rf ?pt w f , 1977 ir 3181. «ft > n f : f t T m t 1 ^n:^n:?t ?«rpr^ ^qT ^Nnr It^t JTf 5RTT?r ? t fTT ?T^ % f T’sRTsTTW ft 3%, (?) w fwr ^nwrr ^nrw ?> tft c^Rt 3T»Tf fTFTT *IT TfT | I % irrirsftaqT dr^?T % t t r ?rmr | f? ^ ^ f*P5Ft ?r ? p t tf^lMd ^ Wl+l EWtVPT ^ ^ 1 9 7 8 % it«jTT ft ^P7*TT I swt^T ^n^?tm »T?tt; w Yt (*T) SRWrfTTlT’T ? crH'tTl'i («) qf? ft, ?l"t *lt^ ?t ?5 f n f , 1977 % rr? S'5ftTT>>T f?3TT ? | * t «n 1 grTTf ? q t ? t w x f t »rf ^ ^j? ^ q c i<. « n % f^rr # fT T H>THq 5f TTO # («rt S*HT ^? *tf?£ ?T ?HT ^5T TfT HTffT SWT? 5 ^ ?rm ) : ( ? ) I I 5ft ft I 2912 L S —5 Written Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answers 132 f>ft I f^rfhr 5fk STST-STOPT % ftra T Ji'iKTcTo % arnrsfta- di?r+ i * t ?TT5r«-.T?rT u n r * f t f w ft % % 5R77TJT %*T % ^ ^ sata'fa s»t ttnr fafww ^rfi't Jr tT?r f <5 sTft^ffa- Tt I ; fw t +^-+yiH f^TT ^ «fr 1 cf^iiRT ^ t jpe # t ?tNFt *mr *Tft 5fT% I I «ft 1 'fvRrr % ?pr I t (^) ^TiTK ^ftfa % 4RPM ^Tf ^ f M WTcT ■35T ti<. ^'?flLhlrl Sale of 30,000 tone of iron skull scrap to Kanoi Industries Private Limi- %(GTt*fiT 'T f t ^ • ted by Durgapur Steel Plant f^FTHT V t* *TTTJt *Ft 9RT ^ P T T 3183. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD ^ % ^TS ft * Sf+TTt flfafrT ?rk % THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES sftm % ^fhrhr + ^ m ^ jtht (SHRI KARIA MUNDA): (a) Yes, 3>t ^ sfft ft, rft ?Tf *TFT ^ ^t Sir. t ; (b) On the basis of a tender, the mana- gement of the Durgapur Steel Plant itf*i fa ?I^T ^ft^Tf ®Pt agreed on 14-2-75 to sell 30,000 tonnes of iron skull scrap (ladles and Mixer £5lH>T V^RFT it fa?TR' % ^TT Spouts) to M/s Kanoi Industries Private Limited, Calcutta at the rate of Rs. 415 +k «i f ; sftr per metric tonne, exclusive of excise duty, sales tax and other charges. The purchaser (*r ) ^ r ¥ t +^4vih was expected to pay the revised price in the event of revision of F.O.R. Rail Head price of pig iron. The duration of the contract was 18 months. The earnest tfqTT #TR=m if TF5U #jft («ft money of Rs. 1 lakh paid by the party was converted into security deposit with vre^fr srtr *rm) : (^r) 3ft ft the commencement of the contract. The z ?fi*+Tt^r ^h<+vm ?nn% «rt 5T *rn f 1^74 party failed to lift the entire contracted quantity within tLe stipulated time. The W f t «ft 1] total lifting by the par!y w; s about 852° metric lonnes. (9 ) 7 ?^5R *r«ft $ft % a^fhiln | 1 ^?r % fVrtr (c) The party has failed to honour the contractual commitments. A letter has w r tt ^ M i ir tii'»i-tti*ii'i 3fft 'ji¥<.a been sent to the party by Durgapur Steel 33 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 134 Plant pointing out its failure and neglect (b) The provisions of Section 9(3) of to comply with the contractual obligations. the Mines and Minerals (Regulation and The letter also states that steps are being Development) Act, 1957, provide for a taken for sale of materials at its risk and change in the royalty rates on minerals cost and any shortfall from the contracted only once during a period of 4 years. rate suffered due to such resale will be This is considered reasonable. to the party’s account. The management of Durgapur Steel Plant propose to take (c) State Government had drawn the action against the party as per the terms attention of the Department of Coal to of the contract. cases of unauthorised mining consequent to stay orders granted by the Supreme Court after parties had filed writs, chal- Settlement of disputes with workers lenging the Coal Mines (Nationalisation) of U.P. handicrafts Amendment Act, 1976. The stay orders of the Supreme Court were subsequently modified. 3184. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD VERMA: Will the Minister of PARLIA- (d) The Central Government has ad- MENTARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR vised State Governments including the be pleased to state: Government of Bihar to take appropriate action in the light of the latest modified (a) whether the Central Government orders of the Supreme Court. and the Central Labour Commissioner had directed the Government of Uttar Complaints regarding telephones in Pradesh to settle its disputes with the Patna workers of U.P. Handicrafts in the year 1976-77 ; 3186. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD VERMA: Will the Minister of COM- (b) if so, the reaction of the State MUNICATIONS be pleased to state. Government in the matter; and (a) whether the number of complaints (c) whether the disputes have since against the system of working of telephones been settled and if so, the details there- in Patna have been rising during the past of ? six months; (b) if so, the nature of complaints and T 1IE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- the corresponding figures of such complai- TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR (SHRI nts in the previous year; and RAVINDRA VARMA): (a) to (c). The (c) the steps being contemplated to matter falls essentially in the State sphere. improve the working of telephones ? No such direction was given by the Central (lovernment or the Chief Labour Com- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE missioner (Central). MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI NARHARI PRASAD SUKHDEO SAI): (a) There has been some increase Rise in Royalty of Minerals in Bihar in number of complaints during monsooo period but with onset of fair season, 3185. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD number of complaints have come down. VERMA: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: (b) The complaints are generally in respect of working of telephones. Month- (a) whether it is a fact that the State wise figures for complaints during last six (Government o f Bihar have urged the months as well as figures for correspond- Central Government to reduce the period ing months in the pervious year have been <>f lour years to two years for the purpose given in the annexure. of reviewing the rate of royalty of mines; (c) To improve the working of tele- phones, steps as detailed below are being (b) if so, the reaction of the Central taken:— Government and details thereof; (i) A phased programme for check and overhaul of internal and external (c) whether the State Government have plants has been undertaken. 50% also reported that large number of mines of the subscribers’ instrument and ar<* being exploited by some unauthorised fittings have been planned to be P^ons without any payment of royalty; and overhauled this year and the re- maining 50% will be covered next year. . (d) if so, the steps proposed to be taken ln the matter ? (ii) Special attention to repeat faults are given to minimise the complaints. JH E MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (m*) Underground cables are being gra- MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES dually pressurised to reduce cable ^HRI KARIA MUNDA): (a) Yes, Sir. faults during rainy season. 135 Written Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answers 137 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 138 ■TO 5f fWw Madhya Pradesh for building up of de- - 1 sign, engineering, development capabili- ties, and appropriate technologies keeping 3187. Trn f*nft : in view the requirements of that State. fWKI iftr WH JT^t ^ (c) Certain areas having limestone and f TT tft *T fr fJJT fa^TT bauxite deposits in Madhya Pradesh have been reserved for exploitation by the jrsq- sr^?r *r % vrft faerelr public sector keeping in view the current and future requirements of the public sector steel and aluminium plants respec- tively. Such reservation of areas is, how- ?*rrfq ??>TW wtr «R TOWT Sf THflr wift («fV vfirm tot ) : %% *rirc Outstanding Telephone Bills *r^n: ^r f^nr ^ | 1 3189. SHRI V. A. SEYID MUHAM- MAD: Will the Minister of CO M MUNI- CATIONS be pleased to state: Bauxite deposits in Sarguja District of (a) the names of persons against whom Madhya Pradesh telephone bills to the extent of Rs. 10,000 and above are outstanding as on 1st Octo- ber, 1977; and 3188. SHRI GOVIND RAM MIRI: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: (b) whether in each case th*i telephone has been disconnected and if not, the reasons therefor ? (a) the steps proposed to be taken to exploit the large bauxite deposits in the Manipet plateau of Sarguja District THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (M.F.); MINISTRY OF CO M MUNICATIONS (SHRI NARHARI PRASAD SUKHDEO (b) whether the Council of Scientific SAI): (a) and (b). Information is being and Industrial Research propose to set up collected and will be placed on the Table a national laboratory in Madhya Pradesh •f Lok Sabha in due course. for the development of mineral /forest resources; and (c) whether the limestone and bauxite deposits in the State have been reserved for exploitation in the public sector; Telephone bills of Cabinet Ministers and whether there is any proposal to ex- and ceiling of calls. ploit them in the near future and if not, 3190. SHRI V. A. SEYID MUHAM- why private sector should not be allowed to work in these areas ? MAD: Will the Minister of CO M MUNI- CATIONS be pleased to state: (a) the total amount of telephone bills THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in respcct of telephones at the residence MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES of Cabinet Ministers for the period April (SHRI KARIA MUNDA): (a) A feasi- 1, 1977 to September 30, 1977; and bility report was got prepared by a Soviet a^cncy for setting up an export-oriented (b) whether any ceiling limit is placed alumina plant based on Manipet bauxite on the use of telephones by the Ministers ? deposits. The feasibility report concluded that the exploitation of these deposits w mid not be economical for export of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE alumina. It was, therefore, not possible MINISTRY OF CO M MUNICATIONS T T > P'* >—-i further in the matter. At present (SHRI NARHARI PRASAD SUKHDEO ^ere is no proposal to exploit these de- SAI): (a) The total amounts of Telephone posits. bills in respect of Telephones working at the residences of Cabinet Ministers for (b) Tii- Council of Scientific and the period from 1-4-7710 30-9-77 are shown ^ iintrial R;sev*ch is considering a pco- in the enclosed statement. A few bills for P ml to set up a Research Laboratory in local calls included in the amounts are 139 Written Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answers 149 sti ll to be issued. Trunk Call bills arc (b) So far as the P&T Department is not covered for the period upto 30-9-77 concerned, no ceiling limit is placed on in respect of all the telephones. the use of Telephones by the Ministers. Statement Total amount of Telephone bills issued during the period from 1-4-77 to 30-9-77 in respect of Telephones working at the residences of Cabinet Ministers. Amount (In Rs.) 1. Prime Minister. 30,222. 10 2. Communication Minister 21,064- 10 3. Energy Minister 19,706. 40 4. Agriculture & Irrigation Minister. 26,683* 50 5. Petroleum & Chemical Minister. 40,843* 16 6. Commerce, Civil Supplies and Cooperation Minist 17,011 * 95 7. Labour & Parliamentary Affairs Minister . * 11 ,349*25 8. Railway Minister . • 12,001'85. 9. Education & Social Welfare Minister . # * 5,666* 90 10. Defence Minister . . • . » 27,139-00 11. Industries Minister . • . • • 6,630-95 12. Information & Broadcasting Minister . 10,343-0° 13. Finance Minister . 11,194-65 14. Home Minister . • • 16,377-80 15. Law, Justice & Company Affairs Minister , 4>I2 7'95 16. Tourism & Civil Aviation Minister . . 18 ,516-83 17. Steel & Mines Minister • • 7,737-00 18. Rehabilitation and Works & Housing Minister 6,438-29 19. External Affais Minister ♦ 15 ,691-90 20. Health & Family Welfare Minister . » 39 ,472-25 Norses going abroad for employment (b) the steps being taken by Govern- ment to stop this emigration of qualified nurses especially of these who have been 3191. SHRI V. A. SEYID MUHAM- trained at public expenses ? MAD: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FA- (a) the total number of qualified nurses MILY WELFARE (SHRI JAGDAMBI who have left India for employment PRASAD YADAV): (a) 151 N u r s e s were abroad during 1976 and 1977 ^ anc^ selected in 1976 and 610 Nurses in 1 077 I4i Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 142 for employment in developing countries of Corporation, New York, which is a sub- Asia, Middle East, Africa and Latin sidiary of International Telephone and Am erica. However, it is not known as to Telegraph Corporation of U.S.A., hold how many have actually left. Moreover, shares in the Indian Telephone Industries these figures pertain to nurses sponsored Ltd., Bangalore. hv the Government of India and do not inc lude the particulars of those who may (b) The terms for taking over of these have left on their own. shares by the Government of India are under negotiation at present. (b) A ban was imposed by the Mirlistry of Health and Family Welfare on forward- ing of applications for assignments from medical, para-medical and nursing stafl to register their names in the panel main- Pending passport applications tained by the Department of Personnel and Administrative Reforms. The ban was also made applicable to the cases where 3193. DR. VASANT KUMAR PAN- applications had already been forwarded DIT: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL to the Department of Personnel and Ad- AFFAIRS be pleased to state: ministrative R p,forrr\s and the candidates had been selected for foreign assignments. However, the position is being reviewed (a) the number of applications for pass- and the deputation of nurses abroad is ports pending in various passport offices being allowed onlv where such deputation as on 31-10-1977; is considered by the Ministry of External Affairs to be in the interest of our political and economic relations with the country (b) the number of applications that concerned. Selection ol nurses by foreign w~re pending on 31-10-76; agencies is not allowed as a matter of routine and the Ministry of External AFairs have been advised to include a (c) what steps have been taken or are representative of the Ministry of Health proposed to be taken to clear the arrears and Family Welfare in the Recruitment in the passport offices; and Boirds/Committees of th^ Recruiting Agencies. (d) is there any difficulty in providing additional staff for clearing the accumula- ted arrears of work in the passport offices, if so, what steps Government propose to take to remedy the situation ? Shares of American Corporation in Indian Telephone Industries Ltd. Bangalore THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI SAMARENDRA KUNDU): (a) and (b). A statement is laid on the Table 31Q2. SH R I V . A. S E Y ID M U H A M - of the House giving both the total number MAD: Will the Minister of COM M UNI- of applications pending as on 31-10-1977 CATIONS be pleased to state: and those pending on 31-10-76. The total number of applications which are not complete with all particulars art* stated (a) whether the International Telephone in Col. 4 and which of those applications and Telegraph Corporation of U.S.A. complete in all particulars pending dis- holds any shares in the Indian Telephone posal are shown in Col. 5. Industries Ltd., Bangalore; and (c) and (d). To cope with the increased (b) if so, what steps Government have flow of applications, Government have taken to ask the American Corporation added to the nine Regional Passport Offi- to relinquish its shares ? ces 247 clerical posts. In the ten months (January--October, 1977), there has been an increase of 51 per ccnt in the number of passports issued, compared to t h e m i n i s t e r o f s t a t e i n t h e the corresponding period of the previous M IN IS T R Y o f communications year. Government is watching the situation fSHRT NARHARI PRASAD SUKHDEO and will take further appropriate measures (a) International Standard Electric as and when necessary. 143 Written Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answers 144 S . No. Passport Office No. of Total Number of applica- No. of complete tions for applica- applica- passports tions pend- tions pending ing as on pending on 31-10-77 for over a 31-10-1076 month, as on 31-10-1977 1 2 3 4 5 1 Ahmedabad 1 1,524 22,399 21,684 2 Bom bay 13,064 26,931 1 t ,082 3 Calcutta. 2,727 5'4°3 1,656 4 Chandigarh 20,420 44,971 29,422 5 Delhi 15.785 39'173 • 21,985 6 Ernakulam 46,539 *’ 1-02453 80,480 7 Hyderabad 7*377 24,892 1 o,543 B Lucknow 10,275 i 7,892 n , 43i g M adras 14.924 37.696 32,465 *,42,635 3,21,760 2,20,748 Works Committee Pilot Courses for advanced skill training and instructor trailing 3194. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: Will for wom en the Minister of PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR be pleased to state: 3195. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: Will the Minister of PARLIAMENTARY AF- (a) whether Works Committees are FAIRS AND LABOUR be pleased to not at all required to be constituted in the state: State* of Bihar, Madhya Pradesh, Maha- rashtra and West Bengal (p. 138 of the (a) the names of three trades in which Ministry’s Annual Report, 1976-77) 5 pilot courses for giving advance skill and training and instructor training for wo- men have been initiated in March 1977; (b) the steps bring taken by the and Ministry to get this information from these States ? (b) the places where they have been THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- set up and the number of women to be trained ? TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR (SHRI RAVINDRA VARM A): (a) Works Com- mittees are required to be formed under Section 3(1) of the Industrial Disputes THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- Act in these States. TARY AFFAIRS ANDjLABOUR (SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA): (a) and (b). (b) The State Governments of Bihar, Advance skill training courses were intro- Madhya Pradesh, Maharashtra and West duced on a pilot basis in the National Bengal hare again been requested to Vocational Training Institute, New Delhi furnish the information quickly. in May, 1977. The trades so far introduced 145 Wr itten Answers AGrRAHAYANA 17, 1899 ( SAKA ) Written Answers 146 and the nunpber of women trained/being Project Manager, to precede the above trained in the courses are as follows:— fellowships, in order to acquaint them?d- ves with the facilities available in similar Regular Courses: Institutes in other countries and also to locate training places for fellowships of the Advance Skill Training in Dress national staff. However, as the I.L.O Making . . . . 71 did not provide a regular Project Manager the joint Study Tour was proposed to be Advance Skill training in Em- undertaken by the Director only. broidery and Needle Grafts 22 2. Due to various administrative diffi- Instructor training courses in culties, the tour was delayed and could Catting & Tailoring . . 49 be undertaken by him only in 1977, i.e. between 11-4-1977 and 3-6-1977. The Dress Making 16 Director submitted his report which inter alia , recommended fellowships for 4 officers Secretarial Practice . 7 of the Advanced Training Institute, Elec- tronics, Hyderabad in the first instance. In the two Regional Vocational Training Institutes for Women set-up at Bombay 3. Contributory factor for the delay in and Bangalore, only basic skill training the utilisation of the fellowships was that courses in the three trades viz . (1) Dress * * these fellowships were to be awarded to Making, (2) Secretarial Practice, and (3) Electronics have been introduced during the staff of Advanced Training Institute, this year. Advance skill training courses Electronics, Hyderabad, who had hardly are proposed to be introduced in thr same completed their probationary period of trades from August, 1978. ' 2 years. Under the general conditions of deputations abroad, such officers could not be considered for foreign training as they had not completed 5 years service in the * * Department. This necessitated obtaining ^ ^ relaxation of the normal rules, which also Fellowship in advanced training took time. institute for Electronics and pro* cess instrumentation* Hyderabad 4. The present position, is that, after . satisfying all the general conditions and 3196. SHRI K. RA MA MURTHY: Will formalities the first batch of 4 officers the Minister of PARLIAMENTARY AF- FAIRS AND LABOUR be pleased to from the A.T.I. Electronics have been nominated to I.L.O. for availing the fellow- state: ■ ships. Thtt remaining 16 Fellowships are (a) th~ reason* for not availing of ?o proposed to be availed of in due course. Fellowships provided in the Advanced Training Institute for Electronics and (b') The Institute was set up in June, Procesa Instrumentation, Hyderabad in *974 with certain nucleus staff to take 1976; and preparatory action for conducting the various courses. The first training course (b) how it is claimed in the Ministry’s was started in January, 1976 with available Annual Report, 1976-77, that this Institute indigenous equipment and local staff and became functional from January 1976 collaboration of the Electronics Corpora- when the Project Manager was in position tion of India Ltd., Hyderabad. The only for a month in January 1.976, a absence of Project Manager or the Experts consultant was there from July—October, throughout 1976, did not come in the 1976 and a Domestic Electronics Expert way of running of short-term courses with was in position only from June 1976 ? the available facilities. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- Manufacture of spurious Himacycline TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR (SHRI Capsules by Himco Laboratories, RAVINDRA VAR MA): (a) As per the Sonepat, Haryana provisions in the agreement signed between I.L.O. and Government of India, 20 * 3197. SHRI O. P. TYAGI: Will the Fellowships provided in the Project Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY Document are to be availed of in a phased WELFARE be pleased to refer to the reply manner in 4 batches of 5 each—2 batches given to Unstarred Question No. 5159 }n >9751 onc in 1976 and one in 1977. •given on the 28th July 1977 re: Manufac- There is also a provision in the Project ture of Spurious Himacycline Capsules by Document for a Study Tour to Sweden ‘HIMCO Laboratories, Sonepat (Haryana) and other countries by the Director and and state: 147 Written Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answers (a) the names of the medicines which THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE have been manufactured by M/s. H IM CO MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FA- Laboratories, Sonepat (Haryana) since MILY WELFARE (SHRI JAGDAMBI *973 UP to date; and PRASAD YADAV): (a) and (b). A statement giving the information is ^en- (b) the d'ltes on which the licence for closed. making the said drugs was granted ? Statement Serial Name of Medicines Date on which licence No. to manufacture the medicine was given by the Government of H aryana i 2 3 } *8 i Anaurine Comp. Tab. B.P.C. . 30-3-70 2 Predinosolene Tab. I.P. .... Do. 3 Dexamothasone Tab. Do. 4 Himco-Stiep Caps...... Do. 5 Acetylsylicylic Acid . .... 28-3-70 6 A .P .C . Tabs. I.P...... Do. 7 Sanidon Tabs. Do. 8 Chloadiazepoxide Tabs. U.S.P. Do. 9 Chlorpheniramine Tabs. USP . Do. 10 Ferrous Sulphate Tabs. . . Do. 11 Chloroquine Phosphate Tabs. I.P. . . 14-1-74 12 Diedolydioxy-quinoline Tab. I.P. .... Do. f3 Sulphanilamide Tabs. (Vet. )B Vet. C. Do. *4 Phenylbutazenc and Amidopyrine Tab. N.F.I. . Do. 15 Himco Cough Tabs. Do. 16 Oxytetracyclinr Tabs. USSRP . . . Do. 17 Do. 18 Chloramphenicol Caps. USP ...... Do.* 19 Sulphaguanidine Tabs...... Do. 20 Sulphadimidine Tabs. . . Do. 21 Analgin Tabs. USSRP .... Do. 22Paracetamol Tabs. B.P ...... Do. 23Nivagin Tabs...... Do. 24Calcium with Vitamin D. Tabs. . . . . Do. 149 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1889 (SAKA) Written Answers 051 1 1 2 3 25 ApamidcTabs. 26-2-76 26 Himpayrine Tabs. Do. 27 Himalgine Tabs. Do. 28 Calcium Gluconate Tabs. I4“I"74 29 Phenobarbilonc Tabs. I.P. I4'1'74 30 Pepsotab Tabs. . • 23-8-75 31 Elbutapar Tabs . 26-2-76 32 Ascorbic Acid Tabs. I.P. . 14-1-74 33 Himco-Besules Caps. Do. 34 Tetracycline Caps. I. P* Do. 35 Chlorpromazinc Tabs. HG 26-2-76 36 Phenobarbitom' Sodium "labs I4"1‘74 37 DexaminTabs . • Do. 38 Diphen-hpdramine Caps. D o. Dismissal of telephone employees in (b) if so, what is the reason or any J & K State policy decision has been taken over this issue ? 3198. SHRI BALDEV SINGH JAS- ROTHA: Will the Minister ol COM- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MUNICATIONS be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI SAMARENDRA KUNDU): (a) (a) the number of telephone employees and (b). Miss Veena Prakash’s participa- serving in J & K state who were dismissed tion in the World Beauty Queen’s contest from service during emergency giving organised by M ECCA in London was not reasons, and length of service of each sponsored by the Government of India. employee; and As the contestants included a South African participant also, we did advise Miss Veena (b) the steps taken to reinstate them ? Prakash to withdraw from the contest as a mark of our protest against the racially THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE discriminatory policies followed by South MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Africa. The Government of India is gl^d (SHRI NARHARI PRASAD SUKHDEO that Miss Prakash followed this advice. SAI): (a) Nil, Sir. Our consistent policy has been to maintain boycott of racist South African regime in (b) Does not arise. diplomatic, commercial, economic and other lields in view of its policy of racial Withdrawal of India’s beanty queen discrimination and its denial of fundamen- from World Queen contest tal human rights to majority of the people living in South Africa. 3199. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: Planning of earth stations for 80s to SHRI M. R. LAKSHMINARA- Monitor Satellites YANAN: 3200. SHRI G. S. REDDY: Will the Will the Minister of EXTERNAL Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be AFFAIRS be pleased to state: pleased to state: (a) whether India’s beauty queen has (a) whether a number of earth stations been withdrawn by Government from the have been planned for the 80s to monitor world Beauty Queen’s contest; and satellites; and *5i Written Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answers 152 (b) if so, details thereof ? ^ }; r--fOT ST5T ir^T THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE *Tf$T*r fa^nr | 1 snrfv*rer MINISTRY OF CO M MUNICATIONS *T?«TJr *T 3TT5T fSTT | fa ST5T (SHRI NARHARI PRAS\D SUKHDEO •SAI): (a) and (b). There is a proposal if favTrsffa, *r?m, »p^>, ssra ^ under consideration of the Government for setting up one Earth Station for monitoring 55 T»T>gTr srrft ffs?r ^rrfeff -emission? from satellites. The details are being worked out. if TT5T5g | I ^ *r»r ift qnrr imrT | 1 tfferor % tTjr* ^ ***** n ft-lfraff «ui Jff¥v5T!j*rrc% 413 3R M ^ ■)n> | 1 • ar?i% % tt f^nT |; sfa (®) *,ncfk f¥%c?n qrarfrT z* (w) srk srT^fta w^srpT qft?e ^ ^ F 9 $ Sf^farT T^frT % ur^ m -^ >r SviqiRiqf % % f^(T ^ WSTTpTfi srT^ETT^ .•qiqw "'Trft^r 77 ; sft^ ir 'Tb^- ?» 'T*f^ tsnf^ ir flJr'4+H tftSRPT f^RTTra^T ftrtT rr^ sn^qfrrr t? !TTT*1T # 5 I w iw iftr mRak wsmra 9 ttw ( «ft w aft Visit to Austria by Minister of Exter- •hhw m) 'TfTsr ww nal Affairs if ^3 srtasfto 1* % 3202. PROF. P. G. MAVLANKAR: T5HT, wrm, »T^T «flT Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AF- ft* 1 if Jf^*r % fcM FAIRS be pleased to state: ii trrota f^rfjp st «rfi% fWiSsft (a) whether he had planned and even announced a visit to Austria sometime in SRfte^T 'TfTff<.T % May or June this year; SFT <7?% ft JTTTf*^ (b) if so, whether he did visit Austria; ss'snr farn & t h e M i n i s t e r o f e x t e r n a l (b) how many of them paid custom duty AFFAIRS (SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJ- on the valuable presents received by them PAYEE): (a) to (c). I had planned to there and how many deposited those pre- visit Austria during the 3rd week of Sep- sents in Tosha Khana of Government; tember 1977, but owing to a sudden indis- position the visit had to be cancelled. I (c) is it a fact that C.B .I. made an met the Austrian Foreign Minister in New inquiry against the Ministers and officers York during my visit to the United for not depositing the valuable presents with Nations and explained to him why the the Government; and visit had to be cancelled. The Austrian (d) if so, what is the report of the Foreign Minister appreciated the gesture. inquiry and what action has been taken on it ? (d) and (e). Yes, Sir, the visit will be scheduled according to mutual conven- ience. It is at the invitation of the Austrian Foreign Minister and Is expected to stren- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE gthen bilateral relations. MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI S. KU N D U ): (a) A list of Ministera and officials who visited West Asia from January to June 1976 on financial sanctions issued by the Ministry of External Affairs is placed on the Table of the House. Ministers and Officials went to Middle East (b) No separate record is maintained by the Department of Revenue of customs 3203. SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTAt duty collected on gifts. All gifts received Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AF- were deposited/reported to Toshakhana FAIRS be pleased to state: and thereafter retained as provided for in the rules. (a) the names of the Ministers and (c) No, Sir. officials who visited Middle East countries during early 1976; (d) Does not arise. Statement List of Ministers and Officers, for whose visits sand.oris uere issrtd l-y Minishx of External Affairs, who visited Middle East durinp Jcn ttan — Ji-r.e. 1976 Date Countries visited Names unc 26— 30. 1976 . Iran (Deligation accom- 1. Dr. V. A. Scyid Muhammad, Ministcr- nanving President of in-waiting* India) a. Shri K. Balachandran, ICS, Secretary to the President. 3. Shri K. L. Dalai, Additional Secretary, Ministry of External Affairs. 4. Shri S. K. Bhutani, Joint Secretary Ministry of External Affairs. 5. Maj. Gen. K. Surendra Singh, AVSM* M C Military Secretary to the President. 6. Shri H. S. Vahali, Chief of Protocol, Ministry of External Affairs. 7. Shri A. M. Abdul Hamid, Press Sec- retary to the President. 8. Shri Akhtar Alam, IAS, Spl. Assistant to the President. 9. Dr. R. K. Caroli, Physician to the President. 155 Written Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answers 156 Date Countries visited Names 10. Shri N. N- Virmani, Joint Deputy Director, Ministry of Home Affairs. 11. Shri B. N. Barooah, Private Secretary to the President. 12. Shri K. L. Dhawan, Private Sec retary to the President. 13. Shri P. A. Mohd., Spl. Assistant to the Minister of State for Law, Justice & Company Affairs. 14. Lt. R. Talwar, IX, ADC to the Presi- dent. 15. Capt. I. A. Siddiqui. ADC to the President. 16. Capt. A. K. Vasisht, ADC to the President. 17. Shri D. B. Bhatia, Section Officer (Tours). 18. Shri Daryao Sin 19. Sub. Maj. D. B. Thapa, JCO, ADC to the President. 20. Shri Chaman Lall, Protocol Liaison Officer. 21. Shri T. S. Ashok, Photographic Officer. 22. Shri D. S. Jaggi, Personal Assistant to the President. 23. Shri M. L. Tiwari, Technical Assistant (Dispensary). 2 [. Shri Abdul Majid, Valet. 25. Shri Musharraf Ali, Valet. 26. Shri Abdul Malik. Valet. 18 — >5 March, 197G Bahrain, Abu Dhabi and Shri F. S. Dewars, Joint Secretary, Ministry Muscat (Inspection of External Adairs, visit) Survey of minerals in the country (b) whether it is not the function of the Ministry to develop survey mines not only c t t o t DAT nr\7 ciM ru tAC 1Ti Bihar> Orissa and Assam but in the rest d h t u a ^ States, specially the backward J , f t Statcs likc J-&K- Himachal, so as to AND MINES be pleased to refer 1 to the provide opportunity for the development reply given to Urn tarred Question No. of these States, by excavation of the hid- €38, on the 17th November, 1977 regarding den weaj ^ . excavation of minerals at Pharakh, J. & K. 9 and state: (c) whether there is any criteria so as to debar the Central Government to make (a) the criteria for the survey, develop- survey in States also when no Constitu- ment and excavation of mines in the tional legal bar is there for the Goveru- cou n tryj xnent; and 157 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 17, 1809 (SAKA) Written Answers 158 (d) whetheij Government are aware of (b) the steps taken by the Government the iron mines at Pharikh in Tehsil Reasi to resolve those in order to promote of Jammu, Maid; near village Ranka in cordial relations ? Doda District and near Salal and Rajauri in J. & K. ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI S. KUNDU): (a) and (b). India THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE enjoys warm, friendly and good-neigh- MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES bourly relations with Nepal which are (SHRI KARIA MUNDA): (a) The cri- based on traditional, cultural, geographic teria for survey of mineral resources are and numerous other links which bind the based on programmes settled after dis- two countries. However, problems relating cussion and wide ranging consultation by to the matters of trade and transit facilities the Central Programming Board of the for Nepal, joint harnessing of water re- Geological Survey of India, wherein repre- sources, etc., are constantly under review. sentatives of concerned State Government When Foreign Minister visited Nepal authorities, public sector corporations in July, 1977, positive steps were taken to engaged in mining and mineral resources further consolidate Indo-Nepal relations, development, and technical experts out- remove misunderstandings and reinforce side of Government arc associated. Simi- trust and confidence between the two larly, programmes of survey by State countries. The Foreign Minister has al- Government authorities are settled by State ready made a statement in Parliament on Programming Boards. The criteria for the 26th July 1977 on the results of his visit. development of mines and mineral based As has already been announced in the industries are as per the requirements in Press, Prime Minister is due to pay a visit the country in line with the priorities to Nepal between December 9-11 and it laid down within the frame-work of the is expected that this visit would be a further Five Year Plan, export possibilities, and contribution to strengthening the friendly the economics of the mining activities and and good-neighbourly relations, to mutual mineral based industries. benefit, between India and Nepal. (b) The Central Government agencies, in particular the Geological Survey of India and the Mineral Exploration Cor- Correction of Answer to Unstarred poration undertake the survey and investi- Question No. 682 dated 17th Novem- gations of mineral resources in the country. ber, 1977 r c . Central Assistance for These are supplemented by similar surveys Building Hospital in Kota, Rajasthan. and investigations by State Government agencies. Where minerals fall within Schedule I of the M.M. (R&D) Act, the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE development of mining and related MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FA- activities is undertaken by Central Govern- MILY WELFARE (SHRI JAGDAMBI ment corporations. For all other minerals, PRASAD YADAV): In Unstarred Ques- development is undertaken either by State tion No. 682 put in the Lok Sabha on Government agencies or by private mine 17-11-1977 it was asked by Shri Chaturbhuj owners. as follows:— (c) No, Sir. “ (a) whether the Central Government propose to provide special assistance for building a hospital in Kota, (d) Iron ore occurrences and old Rajasthan; and workings have been reported in J. & K. Anantnag, Riasi and Ladakh districts. (b) if so, the details thereof ?” However, there has been at iron ore The reply to parts (a) and (b) of the mining in the reren! past no Pharakh, Maldi. Salal and Rajouri. Question was inadvertently given in the afiirrnative. In fact, the Government of India have no proposal for the grant of assistance for the building of a hospital in Kota, Rajasthan. Due to some clerical Indo-Nepal Relations error, the reply already sent is exactly the opposite to the actual position. 3205. SH R I C H IT A B A SU : SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: It is proposed that the correct reply to Will the Minister of EXTERNAL the question may be read as under:— AFFAIRS be pleased to state: “ (a) & (b). No proposal for the grant of assistance by the Central Govern- (a) what are the major unresolved ment for the building of a hospital Problems between Nepal and India; in Kota is under consideration.” and 159 Written Answers DECEMBER 8, 1977 Written Answers l6o Cor rection of Answer to Una tarred Question No. 731 dated 17th Novem- *TT3T SIT *f^T, ber, 1977 r (b) the names of the districts recom- g— WPT HT 9T mended by the Government of 5-JlRTcf ^ ? I Bihar keeping in view the above criteria; W( W VF9fT®T IT^" (c) whether Government propose to (m I TTO ■TnrW'f) • take any decision contrary to the above criterion as well as the re- f^frt ^t $ commendation made by the Govern- ment of Bihar; T^r ft STRTfacT ^TTFT 3TT 'T? (d) if not, when this scheme will be % I w 5TTHT «PTTT- enforced in the above districts of srf m ^nr tct , fadni tft «rnr Bihar ? The reply to part (c) of the Question Hs«+vh % fat* #*rrc f # was given in the negative. It is proposed 1 to elaborate the reply already given. The eft qf ^TfeTT gfV reply to part (c) of the question may be read as follows:— a whole day should be devoted to this issue. “(c) No. However, the entire matter is under consideration. A final deci- MR. SPEAKER (Madurai) : I have sion shall be taken in consultation heard from both sides, but you have with the World Bank when their forgotten two other factors: one is the Mission visits India to appraise the Speaker and the other is the Business Ad- Project.’* visory Committee. We will consider any request that comes: there is no difficulty SHRI KRISHAN KANT (Chandigarh) : about it. Sir, before we go to the next Item I would like to make a submission that there was an SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN : important question today about Lohia’s Yesterday the discussion on the Bonus treatment, which could not be taken up. Amendment Bill was postponed by the We would like to submit a notice for Deputy Speaker at 3 o'cloqk saying that it discussion and wc would request that, since would be taken up today. But, in the this is an important thing, the Minister may revised List of Business for today, I am agree. ( Interruption ). unable to find that subject. MR. SPEAKER : When the notice MR. SPEAKER : It is coming up comes we will consider it. tomorrow I believe. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Diamond Harbour): Sir, I have given notice W T HRT ’JCflT (few) about a very important and serious matter 5% w Jr «tr, from the point of view of the countrys* economy. I insist that the matter be viPl'l 5TFT “PT srmr STFTT-'^fc ^ brought up on the Floor of the House and the Government be directed by your good MR.. SPEAKER s Th»t question is 12.06 hr*. coming up: wt ttm ot k*vt it twkto SHRI JYOTfllMOY B0 6 U : I am RE. CALLING ATTENTION NO- just nuking » submission. This is an im- TICES. portant issue. — (PROCEDURE) MR. SPEAKER : Every issue is im- portant* «ff fcnm to arc (forct ) : S H R I J Y O T I R M O Y B O SU : I do not iff fats* !R t t t I ftr *rnr srnr know from where we will get the money to run the Lok Sabha if our economy is % MR SPEAKER : No, No: the matter i f «p t fsn rn r is going to come up. It is not on the Agenda now: it will come up at the appro- % f^TTT jt ? * ^ ^41 priate, stage. Not Now. ^ SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : You do srnr f^rarr *rr ^ not understand the seriousness of the matter. ftw «rr fr w ^ MR. SPEAKER : I do understand. I srfd^r fiRrft t I 7TTf% can only have my understanding and not your understanding. ^>T '*tV JT9*T ^ I Wnf'cf V t 5PFT % SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : The two erstwhile Reserve Bank Governors and f t 3TTTT q T f f oTCT W lft the Secretaries of the Banking Department ?p p ftnm- | RTRmwr under orders of the erstwhile Prime Mini»- ter^s son gave an overdraft to the K^padias SRrH IM *T7 *T {? I qftr by committing a fraud on the bank. st vh ^ t 1 MR. SPEAKER : The matter is com- srt »rf ^ sntff 1 ing up. We cannot have it twice over. ipr w r w r an m j srr t SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : In it t *TPT 5PT c t r fasn? ^ r w hat form? *T t ><^i -qi^a I g I MR. SPEAKER : You will know it from the Secretary. I cannot answer it iust now because I do not remember it. sft irftfT WH ( ) : tsnarcr *ft k t r ? n w * r SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : I have made a mention yesterday. I waited for a SRtTTW STHTT ft, % f^T3[ sft further communication from you. Surely you take up other issues which have no f*PT t 1 fn JT «Ttfs?r f^TT relation with the country’s economy or matters which are not so important. I beg U, it WTO foST «TT f¥ of you not to throttle this serious iwuc fr»rnr *r m qjRftr | *t where a premier nationalised bank has lost its capital base becuause o f this over- • w if *nr fa m draft. *r> f^m wr ^ wk ft* fw i^ MR. SPEAKER : If you make the 3ft vrf?nr submission now, thereafter the question will become unnecessary. s t pt ?r p p t ftmT | ft: «w fiw v vr '^rtr Tfi- SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : As you deire, I will keep quiet. ^ % fKFft an# % . i h f i jpifT; ^ir. w snrgt 2912 L&-6. It>3 CA. (Procedure) DECEMBER 8, 1977. , Paper Laid [« ft 5TT5T] srorit f»brrct f*p*t t o ^ | faw if «ftT ^ft ^ *rtr ^ viNrferf % ffp^t f t % $a»0 WR *Tf ff I 5T5JH5T ^ * f t $ ff«5t if fm 5T$r ffen ^t 11 | i ft«ftfaRnrr . . . ( « W * R . . ) fe n t o t i MR. SPEAKER : I am on my legs. MR. SPEAKER : It is better that Anybody wanting to discuss anything about you come and discuss. If you ask informa- questions may kindly comc over to my tion for the last 30 years, that question Chamber and we will discuss it. Here I cannot give you answers becuase I do not will be disallowed. The Rule provides remember what happened to your ques- that the question which cannot be easily tion. Therefore, if you want to discuss answered will not be answered. Nobody anything you are always welcome to my Chamber for discussion. If necessary, can collect information for the last 30 years. we can revise it. Certainly we will Probably the office has helped you by re- do that but here I am not in a position to give answers becausc many of ducing it to three years. If you do not the things are decided by the Secretary want, you leave the question because 30 and, even if I decide, I cannot remember years will not be allowed at all. t. Therefore, there is no point in your raising it here at all. t f t TWSltST fJ W l^ T : SRfT ^ STTT fpTRT et>{5»il ^ 3TT % cfKr ^ if so tw *r+to ^ 1 1 ^ fsrarr t i f f f ^ w a f Trhnr f ^ t T O ^ % far sriNt if fR ^ ? ^ti+l fe n 'TH7 5TT3T '3Tt f e n | i .. («nwR) .... sft TRn^T $OTI£! ) : ifTT 5Zr«[PTT fT STFT ^ I ^ ir^r 5T?^T 12* iz h n . fen «rr, fair fr fViHaa PAPER LAID ON THE TABLE fw | i inr jft w «u, ?rn ^ Annual Report of A ll India Institute frafcpr if afr fa*n»r $, sw % op Medical Sciences New Delhi for (1976-77) ^ *lqM ft ^t if it is of law and order, it will be dealt with by U.P. Government. How can CAL LING ATTENTION TO MATTER this come? This is my point. I want OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE your guidance, otherwise it will become a bad and wrong precedent, open to all kinds of criticism. Re po r t e d Dist u r ba n c e in a Ka n pu r Te x t il e Mill (Interruptions) SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTA (Delhi SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA Sadar): I call the attention of the Minis- (Begusarai): You were pleased to say that ter----- (interruptions) although the matter was originally referred to the Minister of Labour, the Minister of PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR (Gandhi- Labour decided that this... . nagar) : I am on a point of order regarding item No. 3, Calling Attention by Shri Kanwar Lai Gupta and others. My point of order is this— if you read the MR. SPEAKER : Not decided, he contents of the subject— requested the Home Minister. “ to call the attention of the Minister of Home Affairs to the reported disturbance SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA : in a Kanpur Textile Mill leading to the This is not a matter between the two killing of five persons and action taken Ministers. It relates to the Constitutional by Government to avoid the recurrence of division of functions between State Govern- such incidents.* * ment and Central Government. Parliament cannot intrude into a sphere wnich belongs You are asking tlie Home Minister to to the State Government. It is for the reply to this Calling Attention. But this is Chair to decide. This cannot be remitted a State subject of law and order. How to the Minister of Home Affairs. It should could the law and order which is a State have been handled by the Minister of subject can become a subject for Calling Labour. There should not be any inter- Attention here ? ference or intrusion into the affairs of the State Government. It should be addressed to Minister of Labour because this is a question . . SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTA : I THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- also addressed to the Minister of Labour. TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR (SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA): This is not PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR : I being dealt with by the Labour Ministry am quite in agreement with the seriousness and therefore I am constrained to make a of the subject. I support the subject. few observations with your permission. We must discuss it. But once we start There has been no attempt on the part of discussing law and order problems of States the Labour Ministry to decline to take this will create problems of all kinds. responsibility for anything falling in this Ministry’s jurisdiction When this Calling MR. SPEAKER : May I satisfy you? Attention Notice came, I submitted to you I am telling you what it is. The question saying that in this matter the appropriate was addressed to the Labour Minister. Government is the Uttar Pradesh Govern- The Labour Minister said that the Home ment, and not the Central Government. Minister would reply. It is a matter bet- Labour Ministry functions at the Centre, ween them and not a matter for me. and there are also Labour Ministries in the States. As you know, and as the House knows, there are distinct, appropriate PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR : As governments, to deal with different matters. you yourself said just now, many hon. Here the U. P. Government is the appro- Members did address this Calling Attention priate Government. Two matters are •pecifically to the Minister of Labour and involved: One is the labour situation. Shri Gupta says he also did so, How could The other is the law and order situtation, Jhe Minister of Parliamentary Affairs and which resulted in the death of 11 people. Labour decide on his own without your As I submitted to you, the appropriate consent ? Because Governm ent has joint Government in both cases is the U.P* responsibility, therefore, he can pass it on Government. In case it is thought that to the Home Minister, that cannot happen. the Law and Order situation had to be dealt with or there should be some reference MR. SPEAKER : Why not? to it, it is for you to decide. If you want, I am quite prepared to answer the question PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR : No, or my respected and junior colleague, the peciaUy because if it is a subject of labour, Home Minister would be willing to answer thc Government of India came in but it, x«7 Disturbance in a DECEMBER#, 1577 Kdnpur Mill (CA) 168 MR. SPEAKER : When the matter cajfrie up, I thought it related to Labour *PIT I ^!Pt HHlf <, 3ft ^ 5TW Ministry. I decided that it can be admit- *TRT | Wf^TT %TT | f r ted because, I thuoght, labour problems are dealt with both by the Centre and the ift SR*Tfa ft ^TPT % # ^5 I States. After I allowed it, I got a leitn* from the Labour Minister saying thai it is a State subject. 1 said that I had MR. SPEAKER : This is according to allowed it. Thereafter, evidently between ballot. You must read the Rules and you the Home Minister and the Labour Minis- must familiarise yourself with the Rules. ter, they discussed among themselves, and decided that it should be replied to by the When many questions come, there is a Home Minister. It does not matter who ballot. replies. So far as I am concerned, I have admitted it only as a labour question. It is also the responsibility of the Government Mr. Kanwar Lai Gupta. so far as law and order is concerned. There are two aspects, one is law and ordeer SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTA : Sir, the other is the labour aspect. The Home I call the attention of the Minister of Minister could deal with both these aspects. Home Affairs to the following matter of urgent public importance and request that he may make a statement thereon: “ The reported disturbance in a Kan- JfTT STR- 1 I pur Textile Mill leading to the killing of five persons and action taken by Gov- ernment to avoid the recurrence of such $ snrr f .. (aw iw ) i incidents’*. if rHTTi ^ *ft THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THF. Mill T rfftT I ^q| of the nearby building to which they had bedn removed by die workers. A number etw % of injured persons have been admitted to hospital. 230 workers involved in rioting t Tfr 11 srt** had beeti arrested by 6th. December and qf | % f*nt If the Mill had been closed for a week. The XJttar Pradesh Government have intimated *ft that the situation was under control and no further untoward incident had been re- vn^Fr | irtr ^7 if ^ qr% ported. ift ifr qf ^rrf^r According to available information, ^TT I ftr If fefttfcpT Swadeshi Cotton Mills, Kanpur had been unable to make full and regular payment srk 5TT tro? mtr Tf toi 11 of wages to their workers for some JPTTtf qf ^T%7: SF77TT | far time and the labour had been fueling *greately agitated over ihis issue. There fatr rsTCc^RdM ft w d ?fk was a similar incident of gherao of the Manager of the Mill on 26th October 1977 far? sjfaeft TNTT iTttfr % fis4id The ret urrencc of such incidents can be ^»TT ^TfftT, sfh: ?FR avoided only if all concerned exercise necessary self-restraint and attempt to ^ippr ^ eft ?tf «ft secure th»• redressal of their grievances through due process of law. ftf^ ^t%it 1 q^r 3ft sfT^nr p f t ^TTfT * 1 ^ ] w v w i f 5rrr ^ ^ ft* ^ *a*ft w it f r arnt, aft fa ?iff v t ^ r f W t | q?t, 3 * r v t i f a f t f t I ^ttt ^rf^r i «mrfhr *rtft % f ^ S®JTT ^T^TT I fa '5T^t W ^ ^iT « ^fr *ftfbr yt ftrer 2 6 W ^ fS T , 1 9 7 7 ^ t ^ T T ^ if i % «fr wforrnft f t , f f , 3fr f a 2 7 W J 3T , 1 9 7 7 % %qr% ?ftsrfMnfaftw fcq<*.!< %wt 4 iim wro ifirn if ® | I 3“RT ^ ■ ^ t ? I do not bnow wheth er a speech should srn n r ^ if^>^ be allowed or only a cl ariJication should be sought. ^ «fld ^rnT3T *i«Tnrr >a MR. SPEAKER : Mr. Minister, in HiHcir vtfeT%fa^T Tfk tft^TT Galling Attention, our rules provide for *it *ft f^n 5iT ti^di «rr i certain preliminary remarks. O f course, he has far exceeded it. There is no doubt STTTWTfo *t° WTfo ?ft tft Pwi jTT *TT I cftff % tft ary wwrar .*( | flff urr * fttoTFF % 15 T TPTJ *»T I I fTwk+Tl ^t'lTTJf^PT^Tr ^ fw %f«FT *f ^ft Tt »TRr*ft ^nff^ 1 inrx vr^ if 4^<>i ^ ^ % «rtf; if stft % %% vtxfinwrT ^ cft?f\T «irt *pft f+^i ? «ft 1 ^ ^ m *tpnfhr ^ N» ^ ^ft «Tf ^T»T tT^r w wx % 55? ^7 ferr I 'TT^TFTT 153% # +f»n Jif ^ft: Q< m ^nhf *i?t tiit - 'ft^nfr fer^ ?PT 7f to* •Tft ft’ft ^rfftr %f|< wi tpmr ^ft , % 1 IsfV^'+'i ^ti*t ^«rr- ^f ^TttiTw ^r^tw R' ^ 1 ftra»rr r<(flvjf % ff rT ^PTSIHT I 3 3 ^ rW ^.fl+rd ^ ^R' srk ^TT , ^ft ^r^ft | I t^fd^ ft^%^K vt gm#g-fRft x^t I*V rv* faf] •ft pflfelfa ^ : "W H Wt faw % q** *f?m torn «rr, *To "tfo tnro 5f fjf*i ^?t ?r *»» ■ < wit fr^r 28 ?TTy '^M'Ml ? feqT ' f+i|| ^f fti^ft cTCf % MR. SPEAKER : That is a matter for the Government to consider. You have •T^ft f^m 5TT y+dl o I ' 3^T Jf made your suggestion. 11 'jrnr ^^t *rf stir %■ SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY W RfWf ^t O k w k ^ tt q^T 1 5^RT (Nizamabad): Mr. Speaker, Sir, Mr. Kanwarlal Gupta tried to bring politics in 5 fHf ^TTf^ft I sflTWTi^ Mr. Gharan Singh is very dearly called mix *t^T ^ % fsrtT TT^R- not as Gharan Singh, but as “Commission Singh”. I want him to appoint if not a ^ftWrRf % tf<£ft% Shah Commission at least a ‘Shahanshah* Commission to inquire into these things. ^nr, ' s n R m ^rrr t^t The U. P. Government is under the %f%»T ^TT 4>^ i"iH 3ff % +£1, Ministry of Home Adairs. I want to know whether he is going to dismiss the ^tcnTKST iJ.^ll ^TT U.P. Government. Inspite of one months* ^TfcTT |T, ^T 3^TT ^Hl noticc that was given they did not do anything. f *nfr ?fnff to ? *nrn 5id *nft wr^ft, JTTcTT ^TT *T °b ^clT — #TR ^ W P’TWTrT^forFt *rft% ^ forT ^ fWrr, m ^ wt ft srnrsr wf * ff 1 ^Ml, ^TWT H %■ Tf^T 3ft W9T WR*TT ^TfcTT I wrtfN«T *g ( m w frr*): ^Ft WT *Mcft «ft I V WgV wfi % ftrrr ifrfarr 1 IT5F » ^Tt? • WTT «JT> e\ «TT— % — «ft : ’ stt % % fwt^ ’ft ?ft One-third is paid by [Government. He ^T 5T t><.'fl T^ft I has not stated specifically whether that j c t Disturbance in a AQBAHAYANA 17^1899 (SAKA) Kanpur Mill Qitc-third -it distributed to the labourers iiw qffepfr i f | or not and whether that money is with the as*e*sor or if it had -really gone to the *rr ^ i wearer pockets of the labourers. Suppose even the Home Minister of the country is not ft qf, ^ st pt % fa fitftro aid any remuneration or three months, ?s he going to tolerate it? *pnrife: % | 1 qgrr ^ WT fT?rIT stp t % *T*«K MR. SPEAKER : But surely he is not going to murder an ybody for that. | *TT ^ %fa^ | I AN HON. MEMBER : He has got tp? *t a t t^i Ht? Qftf other sources. 'Ti^t ssit, stftf SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY : STTTJft SFHft?^ «TT I t»ft- He is a Ghaudhuri Saheb like ine. He is a man with landed property and he can ^*ft *fT*T^rTT I, tfte5srtf maintain himself. But if an ordinary labourer is denied his wages and when the 3TT +l'+irft' % -f.Hril fa^Tl % f^T^TT'T;, mill management is misappropriating all ’ T5RT * * T W t I , its funds by selling its shares to other com - m panies, the labourers may not get anything. ^fa* 5P1T ?ft? «Pt ^ # This lias prompted the labourers to become violent. I want to know whether the fTTCTanfr SR ?TW t rft A ?TPT% Minister agrees with this view. Suppose the management sold their other shares -3?MTj;*rr % 3fT 7TJ? o 00 also to other people and declared that they SPFcft 5t.T»T 5T>ir4 * . are bankrupt, I want to know from which place the Minister is going to pay iheir *T*rft I ?TT wages or whether he is going to recover from that bankrupt man. I also want to ZT? I faiT ’STT’T ^ *rr know what is the property held by the Kan- c h : snarsr *t pt - faqr W I ?TFT TT ^ fjRT ?r fawft fa*TT s r k 5PT I f a 3?T ‘PT 9t*TT far fa ^ r t § 3 v , wfair srrr ^ f a cft^T cT=F *TT % fa? Sfrr faff fajn I ^r(tw 40 k * ^t^- ^ 41N ^ *r*rer ^ stt *rr f a ^ 3 wr f^nrr 1 t aft m t , ^ r r | f a ^n|4of^r^fi(T2 j 79 Disturbance in a DECEMBER 8, 1977 “Kanpur Afill (CA) rft® *ft® ? n fo % q^nff g r ^ ^ft WffarSTRT ?T$f fam , ^tf qfrpR t I ‘h^'li »TW?r %rr,r 'JiTfif-ii ? *n| ^ fa> '>i'inl hIcT% % 5^1 % qsftqfcrcft ^ g^frJ m: cs k TTgft ^T far 23 fa d T jR rRT ^ *T5T^f •ft I ^t rrw f wR^t ^rnrifti f^rir^jft l 8l Disturbance in a AGRAHAYANA17,1899 (SAKA) Kampw Mill (CA) 1 82 JWT 3ft *TT, «rwrw f ^rr f% ^t ^ *rpft ftrrt %• I MCN ^ n fd ^ T . 3 ^ 1 hRi ~A 1H ^ 91 «t>'^ ®TT 5Tf ^ ^W»ii -ql^ar f f®F 3ft CS C ^', rf^lf ^ if ?mT-^pTt ^TT^- 7^ I 57T% %T7 ^TPr |, 3?T ^Tt SRTT 7T7TR +ii(?T % ?fto : -HTW*to % 5R vt tfh: $^*nr vr m g u m £, 3% f^s 1 1 ^ ft*Tftrf>f«T f ^ T T | I HTf? % Wt^ ft 'PTlT WPS ^t fT31T JIf V fT ^ f?P ^ 9pT ^ t ^ .i*i HBHH I ?lf+»i *Tf ^t «lld y i^«(, *Tf "jfr +M Wc^li ?Tft «ft W^'T ^TTT I ^ T ^ WTcrr iif ^?t srffinra" ^r t 1 ^ r tpr srrf sfnr^r? z fe f t ^Tft «lfc>f> Tt® 'flf^ li+ H I t ?TT% T F r T , 5TTW»T * ‘Sft w r^ tfr vft | , trjT cft^r n t 1 1 ? f w m W tT O ^ft *Pt W it STT^IT | I Jr 5ft |?rr | f ^ t V* t ^T% ^531^ #TI f% JTf *ft ^ ?rft T^TT ^TfrTT f , ftr< I ^fiFt tfcrr »rrat wtr h j r Trtsft ^ t it 5%9T ^r m TiK^ffTSt t I gi^T itfw *J?T TT TJfT |, sjsr cf -jq- ^ vir. ^T %T77 ^ I o fe?5ft ifi~ ^rrt> srtr -djr-Ttsr j n ^t¥t wr htr- ffTqTaT 5T- Tf^nr ^T cTST^t | I WTT ^T % r ® tr ? 1 s f ^frsr ‘5TT f t | cTf^t^ra- TT'TT ??, f ^1% JTl ^cTT '^T% "ft® WTJT f m r A' -3R% 7^37*3 | f% spf sTrmfr wh: *ft ^nrf 1 t ^rhrf ^rra- w m wrr Ri'+i d 10"cFi =ti< % ^tpt gr^rr 1 t srawt ^w tt % tft c^^rea Rft | l 5f?RT ^T ?n^T tfm "TT?^ ^ T T f o t trtft *ft*it *Ft * r t t z 'F n : + <*11 M^l I I ftpr 5fPTT ^ t 1 wtT ^r % Wf?r ^rf^nr JT ft t * sft f*rft %■ ^Tft |Trf gf ffojT WT *T fr o m? fr^T f^^ft 5fw¥ it "PTT ^ T JlTtTTft | 5R- ?TTf? fT^T f» r f^ J T # rT? ^ tt | m «rr ? ^ ^f t t f® fe rr t o t ZTTfa 5ft ft 7ft t sftr «it 1 w r m «rt %% ^rffci 1 ■^fr wm w ^t Kf<+is wkff^r gfsra' *n^'?r ^ m\ qfr % 'ft® f ^HJt W9W3» Hr "IT'f T f ?T^ft I I f^TTrT «Ft, * n w sr?n; ft ^rri^rr 1 ff t^p g^rnr ^ t ^rfin^r ^rt T ft | 1 JT3?T tfl*it<7^’ % 'Tir"M,t> T^sPTT f ^ft g w ^rr or «it , Sriw sfor vt *Tt WT'T ftr^ : 5T5W H^tW, «T^r ^nn, Tt ti *t q?( sfst prf^r ^ % gW^r qft 3T1% f?qT *PTT SftT *IT^^ W*lf % fq#iR) STPT*TT % *T^f: 'ftnrr ?rr^3r ®pt h i KT^!?PT ^ flW frqtWTf^ |, ^ ^tf T3 ^t Hfv^T ^ q I ft i I WT T$5 ?JT?t: ^ft %W3PT WUW ft q^r ^rrf qft f i ^ rtt «qi Tft |, Sq qT? % qrq?ff Sf ^ ^t ^ftf?PJT # Iwth qTwt 'i^t f, qf ^rr'-rqt i |? 3fqsrq ^Wf rT'TT ?P?T 3TT% qft ft y+d I ^ i\M c^ *flfc— f^TTT WT eft TO TT dr^TH rr+ji'T Wt q^-T5T>T ?€%'Tt§fT I 3rq5W df+l jft fShri Jyotirmcy Boiu] pounds of the Supreme Court. There should be some dignity, decency and "after two hours? Thcy^rcrcSummoned decorum of the House. This is not proper. at 2 o’clock but they came at 4 o clock. MR. SPEAKER : Don’t bother ; I can What is the reason? look after myself. It is not correct that only 9 persons have SHRI JYOT/RMOY BOSU: All right, died. According to my information 15 I say, you were a judge of the Supreme persons have been killed—all employees, Court. two of them were of super cadre?employees and 13 were poor workers. They must be What does the statement say ? It says 'given adequate pension and compensa- that the police party was attacked by the tion. If we do not do it, then we are workers. I quote : failing in our promises that we have made “The workers who were more than 1000 before the electorates. in number surrounded the magistrate and the police party and attacked them with Is-it a fact that a particular DIG who is brickbats, iron pieces, iron rods, heavy known for his mishandling things, keeps angle^iron pipes, acid and even fire arms.*’ himself occupied in other occupations. Tie is the mil? who should be responsible. The workers can carry brickbates; the Is this the same DIG who mishandled workers can carry iron pieces ; the workers 'Shia-Surmi riots in Lucknow ? We want to can carry iron rods ; the workers can carry know whether he owes allegiance to some heavy angle iron pipes ; about acid, may- •other political group. It is a very impor- be, the workers can carry acid. But what tant thing. about fire arms ? The Minister wants us to believe that the starving workers who did not receive salary for weeks and months Will the hon. Minister kindly tell us came with double barrel guns and rifles how much time the Police stayed inside inside the compound to kill the managing the factory compound, how many rounds staff ? Anybody with any sense, with a •did they fire witin the factory ? little intelligence, will not say this. This is a job of hired goondas, hired by a parti- From the statement it appears that the cular political party. Police came at once. It is not so. I have got it verified on telephone from six differ- SHRj JANARDHANA POOJARY ent persons. (Mangalore): I rise on a point of order. Mr. Sita Ram Japuria is an ex-M.P. He There are agents provocateurs of a parti- should not say like that. He cannot -ciilar party to discredit the Janata Party, mention his name. specially Mr. Charan Singh. I am asking you: Is it also a thing that is happening MR. SPEAKER: He can mention the because they want to defeat your candidate, name of a person. But to say that he the Chief Minister of U.P., Mr. Ram Naresh hired goondas, that part will not go on “Yadav ? Kindly inquire into these matters. record. SHRI JYOTIR MOY BOSU : The This has been master-minded by no less Minister can repudiate it. Then we than a person, an ex-Congre&s M.P., Mr. cannot perform our duty in the House. Sita Ram Japuria, a man who had made the maximum donation in the Rae Bareilly MR. SPEAKER: He cannot accuse a elections— Mr. Raj Narain is nodding his person like that. head—in 1971 and 1977. Mr. Sita Ram Japuria is doing this. What happened. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU:The Minister They have put the blame on the workers. will kindly tell us if the former Congress Chaudhuri Sahib had been a Chief Minis- M.P., Mr. Sita Ram Japuria, who is also ter ; you, Sir, had been a judge of the Sup- one of the major owners of the Swadeshi reme Court. __ Cotton Mills had a close hand in it and master minded the whole operation. MR. SFEAKER: Please do not put two I ask this question and I want him to together. answer. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Then, I say, The Swadeshi Cotton Mills is owned you have been roaming in the compounds by Japurias. There are about 9,000 and of the Supreme Court ; you have not been odd workers. Mr. Raja Ram Japuria a judge. who happens to be some sort of a brother of Mr. Sita Ram Japuria is the Managing SHRI NANASAHIB BONDE(Amravati). Director—he is not a blood brother but I object to this type of way of speaking. some sort of a brother. There is another fHe is saying, you were moving in the com- concern of the same family of Japurias, the ♦•Not Recorded 189 Disturbance in a AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) Kanpur Mill (CA) 190 Swadeshi Polytex, owned by Mr. Sita Ram central Minister of Industry, Shri George Jaipuria, an erf-Congress M.P. There is a Fernandes expressed his anptety at the trouble, litigation and quarrel going on behaviour of the millowner of Swadeshi between the two persons over the ownership Cotton Mills. What did they do ? Is it of the property. One is trying to also a fact that Jaipuria had declared a let down the other. This gentleman, an lockout ? Is it also a fact that Rajaram ex-Congress M.P., has a bigger brain. Jaipuria who has more than one lakh So, he has killed two birds with one stone. shares in Swadeshi Polytex wants to sell He is trying to let down the other person them to Thapars at the rate of Rs. 45 per and he is also trying to discredit the Janata share while the real value, as assessed Party. Many of my friends have walked into by IDBI, is Rs. 25 per share, and that is his trap by making utterances. why, the negotiation is not taking place ? Sincc 1974, no regular payment of MR. SPEAKER : You have put wages has been made. In 1975, Mr. Raja enough questions. Ram Jaipuria assured the (Government of U.P. that he would make payments regu- SHRI JY O TlR M O Y BASU : Will larly. But that was not fulfilled. Since the hon. Minister tell us whether then, the workers had no other alternative, the Government acquired the shares in order to survive, but to take the path and cleared the wages and also huge of peaceful agitation. Government dues, arrears of electricity bills, sales tax, provident fund, In October 1977, there was dharna rent and some other taxes? They owe to for about 3 days. Now, 1 would like to you crores and crores of rupees. You ask the hon. Home Minister, Choudhury only think about somebody when he starves, Charan Singh Sahib, what is the difference goes to you and catches your shirt. When between dharna, picketing and satyagrah ? he catches your shirt, you get worried. Kindly explain to us about it. You had There is a man who is throttling millions been sitting on satyagrah and picketing in of people of our country. You cannot raise British days. We had been reading them. your petty finger against him. Would you kindly tell us, educate us, enligh- ten us what is the difference between Finally, it so happened that when this dharna, picketing and satyagrah ? (Interrup- mass murder of workers was going on in Kanpur, Rajaram Jaipuria's son was getting «ftfr wrr £ married in Delhi on the same day to Seeta 1 spt fp ^ sttt Ram Singhamia's daughter and several crores of rupees were spent. When this 5pT fT*ptfrfgferq- ijsnfc fsrr news reached the workers, that added fuel to the fire. They said that their wages w .... could not be paid. They i aid : we kept on starving and the wages of the workers When you were picketing or doing satya- could not be paid. grah in front of the excise shops, what were you doing ? You had prevented buyers It is a clear case where agent provoca- from entering the shops. teur had taken an upper hand in the whole matter. Otherwise, the fire arms could MR,. SPEAKER : Not by force. not be imported in the factory compound. I would like to have a considered reply SHRI JY O T IR M O Y BOSU: By what? on this from the hon. Home Minister. By the application of his physique: by using your physique. {Interruptions) It is all right. MR. SPEAKER : There are too many They have understood (Interruptions) questions. I do not know how many I was holding a commission. I had questions he will be able to answer. served in the army, in the British Army. I have come to communism. {Interruth tions) W&T&T JTfteq, t f ld R W w f s r o g f w MR. SPEAKER: Now he is serving the country. (Interruptions) 5ft r&r w WWX 55T§- fTT I i j S SHRI JYOTIRMOV BOSU : I know ^ I H*i>l 3>T how many Congressmen were informers. I give the names {Intmuptons) Please do | ^ 1 1 s r o n°t provoke me. How much money the mill «rr s r k ^ s s r r owes to this owner today? It it also a fact I at the U.P. Labour Minister congratu- apr, SW 3 * % s r m t cTWSfar the workers very rectsdy for peace- ful behaviour ? Is it also a fact that the ^ t v k < m r im s p j- Iqi Disturbance in a DECEMBlSt 8, 1977 19 ^ Kan pur Mill (CA) The Lok S*kk* r+mssmbled after lynch at twenty two mlmttis past Fourteen of the dock. % trftnm % wr »rf i*sT % 5«IT | I SfcTRH tft w [M r. S peaker in the Chair ] »iffauNK ^t fsp^fr <$*ft % mfaw *rm * fair *r!r f 1 *Mf MOTION RE . STEPS FOR REMOVAL ^ Trr^mfF^F *rf OF ECONO MIC BACKWARDNESS OF FOUR DISTRICTS OF EASTERN UTTAR PR ADESH— Conta. (s m w) 3ft ^'raiT *g ^ ^ s^tt fr ss THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI «rt ^r srnr 1 ?nR MORARJI DESAI): The mover of the motion has stressed, as far as I could ^PHST |f rft sft t^ftST gather, three or four main points: viz t ^rvt vfr ^r^t ^r % the extreme poverty and unemployment in the eastern part of Uttar Pradesh, the OTR ^r I 3TO*t ftn^TRt 3Rt need to include in the proposed Special Development Programme 15 Districts of 3?t t I the Eastern UP and not just the 4 districts^ covered by the Patel Study Team, that the trffftsu % TOT TOT itwr tr * Patel Team's recommendations were not comprehensive and that even the limited qf ’T^nwt ?rff =rr *prtt fa st^t recommendations have not been fully implemented. ^t sRnrre; in Iwra TOffo %$ *rm 11 *t trf^ I— 11 ?ftr ^r*r TOf The hon. mover raised a very unfor- tunate issue on an important subject and ^ srtr «i^d 5t* 3(t ^trr crsral 4< fd I have full sympathy with what he said. The position in the Eastern UP is certainly SFT ^JT % ^ ^fr^t I I (v w m). not what can be called desirable from the economic point of view or the educational 3ift »r^R»n ntsfr % mn% point of view and even from the social ^TrT I, ^rrt’T ttt HcTnr^ ftciT tt< t otr point of view—in the 15 districts as they have mentioned. There are 240 such T ferro, tTR ^ ftWT «TT I f'T%fd7T districts in the whole country, not only these 15 districts, which are like this. flrft «ft I SHrn vft ?PR ftm «TT But these are all called industrially back- ward and not economically backward. 5ft ^«ti? 5TT ?^Nd ?TRff TT As a matter of fact, they are all econo- ^ ^ft «ft, fare jtr?t tiR fTWT *rr 1 mically backward more than industrially backward, and all this has happened over ift ^ ^ rr^r sr^nr ?t fara>?T ^15*1 many years. |, t'Ffe ^IT % TPTO 5T ^ T Frik The Patel Committee referred only to £ 5ITt T his is a task which is not easy, nor be blamed now if we do not go earnestly xan1 it be accomplished merely for the about it. All who have to cooperate with it wish of it. All will have to work hard for will be blamed if they do not cooperate. it and we arc engaged in finding out how This is not a task in which there should best we can implement this programme be any political considerations, in my — of giving full employment to everybody view. We do not have the help of every- in every village, how best to bring out body in this task so that we can utilise all production to the maximum on every inch our energies fully in solving this problem. of land in the village, how to see that no- body is partially employed but fully em- ployed. Therefore, cottage industries and A scheme was referred to for irrigation very small scale industries are common in on an All-India scale. It is callcd/vVater the rural areas and practically every home Grid Scheme. It is a garland canaHcheme, may have a cottage industry. There should if I may say so. I have read/^bout that be good roads connecting villages with other scheme which was prepared by an Engineer villages and with the town. There Dr. Dastur from Bombay more than three should be good proper drinking water and years ago. I was very much attracted by complete cleanliness. that scheme. But soon after that, I was not able to do any work. As socn as I got out of my confinement in detention, I took If these things you are able to achieve this up. I contacted him and 1 discussed in ten years, as we have set the task before us, I think we will have changed not only it with him. I discussed it with other engineers of the Government. conditions in Uttar Pradesh but in all the I took it up in right earnest to see how it parts of India with which we are concer- can be worked. It is a scheme which ned. involves more than Rs. 15,000 crores of ex- penditure. But that docs not deter me I t is natural that the hon. M em ber is from it. I do not think that will be a pro- concerned more with the Uttar Pradesh, blem. But what I have got to be sure that that is very natural, but there are many the scheme is feasible and it will not result parts in this country and every State has in any disaster, because, then, we will do got backward areas economically and more harm than good. We have therefore otherwise. I do not say which is worse and enlisted the sympathy of the F.A.O. and which is better. They all require attention their engineers also are engaged in a scru- and they must be given attention. We tiny of it just now. It is possible that the have, therefore, to mobilise all non-cfllcial scheme may not be possible to be taken up effort for this and the States have got as a whole because there also the Govern- to take it up. This cannot be done from ment of Nepal is concerned and their terri- the Centre. But the Centre can fully parti- tory comes in that area. But if that does cipate in it by helping the State and all the not happen, even then, 1 am determined non-oflicial agencies which can be mobi- to see that irrigation facilities are available lised for this task and that is the task in fully in all parts of the country by mobili- which we are engaged at present— how best sing all the natural water that we receive to mobilise all the non-oflicial agencies to and they don’t go to waste in the sea. We see that the people get enthused in taking have to see that we are saved from floods. up the work so that we succeed in doing Both these things have got to be done. what we want to do. This is what we pro- From that point of view, the engineers arc pose, to do, not propose but we have already paying ali their attention to it. But I started work in these directions. cannot hurry it. 1 am sure it might take But until they begin to show some concrete two years to come to any definite, practical results, I have no desire to make much working scheme. But, in the meanwhile, publicity about it. Then we might lose our- we are trying to utilise all the water that selves in publicity and may not be able can be utilised in any' small way or big to give is much attention to the task as i way so that we are not postponing any of necessary. Work must speak for itself, that these things for the bigger scheme is the slogan in which I believe and not because then that might be not very useful mere publicity. for us at all. All the schemes which we take up now can always be merged in that sche- me and can be utilised. If we are able to implement that scheme, then there will It is true that the task is such as requires be no problem of electricity. We can have immediate attention. That, water facilities any amount of electricity, that may be not only for drinking but for irrigation required, throughout India, and dheaper is also very essential. But I hope my hon. electricity. There will be no dearth of em- f«end accepts that this is a task in which ployment. This scheme itsell will employ the State Government has got to activate more people than are already employed. itself much more than has been done That is how it can immediately do the before. I do not want to blame anybody for work. And by that time the scheme comes this. I think they are all responsible for it. into working order the land will give also What is the use of blaming any one person more work to the people there. Various o r any one authority for it. But we would other openings will be theie for work for I9J Steps for removal DECEMBER 8, 19T7 of backwardness jg6 of Eastern UJP. (M) (Shri Moraiji Ddai) *s f «p$t «rr 1 everybody. At the same to me, industry also will get an impetus. Industries also depend more on the produce of the land. Apiculture also gets assistance from the industries. These are not unrelated ques- *l#r ^WTJTT o v rft *FT Z w i j f t tions. There was some time a propaganda being made that we are against heavy T t I CRT stepTT «TT I STTrT $ industries or bigger industries and we want only to have agriculture. We say that agri- W T q»PT3TT $ \*m ^ f^TT Sfo ^ culture is primary means and agricultural § , sfa £ **TT I production is of the greatest importance to our country. Without that, our county will not live. Therefore, that has got to get priority and that is where industries will get there sustenance. If the agricul- We must rectify it. We must now benefit tural people are not able to buy them, by the past and not try to allocate blame. what will industries do? These are all Instead of that, let us allocate the task connected problems; we are not going by to all of us ourselves and, in that task, any fads or by any inhitions or prejudices I enlist the mover of the Motion. 1 am glad or any ism; we are interested in seeing that when he said that he has seen in his we have a society in this country which place there is no harijan without land. lives in equality as human beings with I am very glad about it if he secs that in the out any feelings of high or low or without whole area. That is wha tyou should all any expolitation from any body. do and I will help him in that process. He has also to enlist all the State Govern- ment’s help and all other people and all of us have got to help in the matter every- where. But, when he referred to some other There is task which requires close work- pitiable condition of the people taking out ing together by all concerncd in full co- grains from cow-dung or buffalo-dung and operation and wherever anything has to eating it, this is a very pitiable condition. be pointed out that must be pointed out. But, that obtains not only in U.P. but also Criticism is not barred; criticism is very in some other parts of the country. necessary. These are not matters in which we cannot say that we know everything and Fortunately, it is lessening to some what we do is all right. Wherever we have extent now’. But, we want to remove it found that there is something wrong, wc completely. That should not be the case are prepared to take it up and rectify it. at any time. Why should that happen at Certainly, we will do that. Therefore, all ? That cannot be removed unless we this is how wc are trying to tackle the whole give full employment to everybody and problem. It goes without saying that eas- unless wc produce in plenty so that even tern part of U.P. will receive our full att- after exporting, we will have plenty here. ention. In Bihar also there are 60 districts This is what we have got to produce. We and there are many districts in the whole have capacity to produce all that. That is country and it is not as if industries will where we are fortunately endowed by only do all the good. There arc crores of nature. But we are not making use of it. ruppes spent in Bihar on public scctor We have enough brains, more brains per- industries. Has it changed the face of haps. That is why perhaps there are more Bihar? No. On the contrary, there the pro- quarrels. But, if quarrels are given irp blem is the same. It all depends on how and brains are all coordinated, we will these allocations of money are utilised and be able to give our best to the task. That is assimilated. That is where we have got to where I enlist the cooperation of all my establish the connection and it is that task hon. friends and I would only request the in which we are engaged in; and we will Mover to see whether it is appropriate in profit by the experience of the past and the Resolution to say that ‘this House re- even by the mistakes committed in the grets that this is there*. I do not think that past; I am not blaming anybody for the is right. I am sure his purpose has been mistakes because mistakes can be commi- served by the discussion in the House, and tted- O f course blame will come if mistakes I hope, he is satisfied with it. are not recognised and are propagated as big achievements, “ then, o i course, we will have to say something. That is where we MR. SPEAKER: He will withdraw want to do something. I do not say that it. there were three Prime Ministers who were from U. P* and yet U. P. is what t it. It SHRI YADVENDRA DUTT (Jaun- is not only U.P. which was neglected by pur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I must first thank them particularly. I do not want to say that the hon’ble Prime Minister for a very rea- 197 Stqfg for removal AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) of backwardness 198 of Eastern UJ>. (U) soncd, calm and effective reply and over Commission is implemented in its entirety and abope all this his great sympathy for because the Study Team was sent by the the suffering masses of Eastern Uttar Pra- Centre. That Study team made a number desh and all over the country. of recommendations. If you will permit me, Sir, I will quote a few of them. There arc a large number of recommendations, Sir, when I began my speech I had said but I do not wish to go into the whole that my Resolution is not only for Uttar lot of them because that will take a lot Pradesh. Sir, I would just most humbly of time. But, may I with your permission, beg to submit to the Prime Minister and I Sir, quote a few recommendations from humbly differ with him when he say that the administrative point of view about something has been done in the Patel agricultural output, per capita real income Commission Report. My whole burden of in rural areas, population, yield per acre, argument was not to blame anyone but to irrigation, electrification, road mileage, bring to the notice of the Prime Minister health, education and all these things ? sheer negligence towards this extreme But then to carry out these things success- poverty that is prevailing. I wish to submit fully a proper infrastructure is needed. for the Prime Minister's consideration We have no administrative infrastructure only two paragraphs of a report made by for this. Therefore, may I suggest most Dr. K. N. Singh, head of the Economics humbly to the Prime Minister to see that Department of Lucknow University. From every backward district has an officer of these paragraphs he can judge how far the the stature of a Deputy Director of the thing has been done in seriousness and how different departments posted there to see the attempts were made only on paper. that the work is completely and honesdy I quote: carried out. Without a proper infrastruc- ture you cannot succeed. When he says, “ The extreme poverty of the Eastern I should do it, well, I am just one MP Districts is reflected by the fact that all there. We have been trying to do it. But districts in the region, with the exception nobody cares to hear us, and that is our of Allahabad and Mirzapur have a lower misfortune We can only talk, request and per capita income than the poorest beg what else can we do ? Therefore, I still western districts of U.P.” most humbly request the Prime Minister to see at least that this Patel Commissions* He further goes on to say that all the Recommendations arc properly imple- Five Year Plans have made no impact mented, because it is the Centre’s business. whatsoever. I quote the second para- And they should see that it is implemented. graph: Further, they should see that the States also implement what is directed. So far, “The study calls for a substantial the practice has been, they go on shifting increase in investment both in the the allotments from here to there and God public and in the private sector in the alone knows what they do ? backward regions.” Therefore, I would only request the My whole argument was not only based Prime Minister with all his sympathy in on this fact that there should be only public his more sympathetic heart, to be good investment and that might bring paradise enough and kind enough to sec that the on earth. That is not a fact. My whole recommendations are implemented and burden of argument— probably, I may not an impact is made, a dent is made, if I may have used the right words because of say so. difference of age between me and the Prime Minister— was that as he said in his own He has said that it is my responsibility words everyone should cooperate; every to sec that all the Hariians in Jaunpur effort should be made from every side— district get it. I can only say, ask and beg. the Government sector, the Private sector What was in my hands, I did it. What and the State sector— and along with it is in the hands of others, I cannot be made human initiative and individual drive. That responsible for that. is why I asked for a survey and an autho- rity to carry on and coordinate all the efforts. What happens is about Rs. 75 lakhs SHRI MORARJI DESAI : I do not were sent from here and so-called Rs. 46 make you responsible. lakhs were spent on a tubewell here and a tubewell there. This busi- SHK 1 YADVENDRA DUTT : Let me ness will not do. The disease is deep- thank all the hon. Members on this side and seated and window dressing will not lead that said, who have supported my resolu- us anywhere. tion and I am very grateful to them. Let me also thank my friend Mr. Sathe,— I am ^ fiir, I do not wish to take any long afraid he is not here, I wish he is here— time but I would again most humbly and I thank him for his lung power, but he respectfully beg of the Prime Minister at seems to be very deficient in his brain east to see that the report of the Patel power. H e stated that Rs. 20,000 crores* • • • 199 Steps for removal DECEMBER 8, 1977 Election to 200 of backwardness committee of Eastern U.P. (A f) [Shri Yadvendra Dutt] 14*50 bn. MR. SPEAKER : No, No. Avoid such w ord s. PUBLIC ACCOUNTS COMMITTEE S H R I Y A D V E N D R A D U T T : T h at is T hirty -sec o nd Report Parliamentary, I will withdraw the word if you say so. But they have used even SHRI GAURI SHANKAR RAI (Gha- stronger words than this in the House of zipur): Sir, I beg to present the Thirty- Com m ons. H e said that Rs. 20,000 crores second Report of the Pub lie Accoun have been injccted into the blackmarket Committee on Action Taken by Govern- and that money is floating. I would not ment on the recommendations of the Com- blame anybody. But before he makes an mittee contained in their Hundred and assertion against the Janata Party, he must Seventy-eighth Report (Fifth Lok Sabha) see who was responsible. relating to the Cash Assistance for Export of Man-made Fabrics. I again beg of the Prime Minister and appeal to his sympathy to see that this Patel Commission Recommendations are completely implemented and to see that we do really get road, drinking water and communications. With these few words, on the request of the Prime Mini- ster, I would say, or his advice because he P E T IT IO N RE. EXPORT OF GROU- is just like a father to me, I beg of the NDNUT SOLVENT EXTRACTION House to permit me to withdraw the reso- lution. AND GROUNDNUT HANDPICKED AND SELECTED MR. SPEAKER : Mr. Brij Bhushan Tiwari, are you withdrawing your amend- m ent ? snrfaepnf «r&r : SHRI BRIJ BHUSHAN TIWARI : srersr If ’HI'T+f WRTT % Yes, Sir. I seek the leave of the House to withdraw my amendment. Amendment No. 1 was, by leave, withdrawn. s fN K K i % fa ir fa % 37^: ir >5ft MR. SPEAKER : Mr. Ram Dhari 5PFT ?fto ^T«qT SFZT sq-fSpfiff gTTT Shastri, are you withdrawing your amend- m ent ? ^cTrsrfXcT JTTf^FT i SHRI RAM DHARI SHASTRI : Yes, Sir. I seek the leave of the House to i 1 withdraw my amendment. Amendment N o. 2 was, by leave, withdrawn. MR. SPEAKER : Mr. Ugrasen, are you withdrawing your amendment ? 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The Khosla Commission s report should not only be ^ ft* ^TtpT 7 ^ " ^ ^ t ^ He? scrapped, but also be burnt to ashes. *TRT*T I ^ JT P H T ^3 % if Stefa W^TeTT ^TT, %f%*T -drl < It has been proved beyond doubt from facts and figures that that report is not srtr ?f$r*r f a ^ r c *t | i s tft correct. In the Khosla Commission's ®Pt ■HI^W ?ft*TT— i[*n »T^t *TT 3>T report it has been stated that the fact that there was an air crash on 18th August ^ <4T [Shri Dhirendra Nath Basu] SHRI K.MAYATHEVAR (Dindigul) : On this occasion it is my duty to think of the emphasis at my command, has been Netaji and INA. Two commissions were not only wrong, has been not only unjusti- appointed by the Government of India to fied, but it has told the people of the world go into the disappearance of Netaji. I*; that it is Justice Khosla’s opinion which iJ H ’ when Pandit Nehru was the Prime will prevail. Justice Khosla, I should say, Minister, a commission was appointed by was rather a puppet, not only a puppet the then Congress Government to go into but a pawn in the hands of the then Go- the death or alleged death of Netaji. An vernm ent. enquiry was held elaborately. Mr. Shah- nawaz Khan, who was one of the three I must say with all the emphasis at my lieutenants of Netaji in INA at the time of command that when Justice Khosla wont the Second World War when INA wa& to enquire into the incidents connected fighting for the independence of the coun- with the plane crash at Taipeh, he dis- try, was the Chairman of the Commission. cussed it with several of his friends, but he Shri Sarat Chandra Bose, Netaji’s own did not take evidence from local govern- brother, was one of the members. Un- ment leaders, from the high government fortunately, he gave a dissenting report officials and from our Ambassador, m 1955’ after the enquiry was over in 1954, but his dissenting report was not released. I do not want to make any comment on the fact that he came back with so many A second enquiry commission was ap- presents. I also do not want to make pointed by the same Congress Government any comment on the fact that he write a *n ! 974- This Commission also did some biography of the former Prime Minister. eyewash business, that is what I think. I only want to state that he did not give his judgment in the form in which it is I am not going to say whether Netaji is desired. now surviving or not. I leave it to other senior Members. He may be honest according to his judg- ment, but if we go through the details given There cannot be two opinions among in his book, it appears that he is somehow Indians now or in the past that while influenced. That is why we request the Gandhiji was the Father of the Nation,, Speaker to appoint a Committee consist- our beloved leader, Netaji, is the greatest ing of Members of Parliament to go into son of In lia, the tallest statesman not only this matter. oflndia, but of the entire world. He was the greatest patriot produced by the history of the world, not only Indian history. He disappeared. I do not say he left, but I had the privilege of working as a he disappeared at the time of the Second humble assistant with Netaji Subhas World War. He met Hitler. There was Chandra Bose for a long number of years. a duration of six months’ time from his At that time he was not Netaji, but simply disappearance from India and his arri- Subhas Chandra Bose. I know he cannot val in Germany. There he met Hitler, die; he is immortal. Not only the people the leader of Germany. During the of India but the people of all democratic period the British Government declared to countries in the world will cherish his acti- the world that Netaji had died. They said vities for the cause of India’s freedom. We that he died due to shamefulness because also cherish the memory of his activities Hitler did not come to help him. That and ideas in our heart of hearts. All the was nonsensical on the part of the British Members feel like that. Government. That was the first alleged death or announced death of Netaji. Netaji went out of India to expedite the independence of the country. Although there were some differences of opinion bet- Now, I come to his second so-called" ween him and the Father of the Nation, death. When lie disappeared from West Mahatma Gandhi, with regard to the Germany, he travelled via the Atlantic and mode or procedure to be adopted for arrived in Japan. There he met Tojo, gaining the independence of the country, the then Prime Minister of Japan within NViji wis v;ry afF'ctionate towards 90 days. Between his second disappea- Mahatmaji and all the leaders then living* rance from Germany and arrival in Japan His passing away from this country should there was a gap of 90 days. At that time not remain a mystery. The truth must also the same British Government dec- be unearthed. To unearth the truth, to lared to the world that Netaji had died. find out the actual facts and give them to This time also he came up. Then he the people of this country and the world, formed INA. it will be fitting for the House to request you to form an enquiry committee with hon. Members of this'House and those Why did he form the INA ? He formed who were associated with them. the INA within the shortest period to* 200 Khosla Commis- AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) «ion Report on 210 Netaji Bose (M) fight for the independence of our country. I am a youngman of 40. The senior most I can say with earnestness and honesty in politicians arc sitting here. So many political life and public life that that was people who sacrificed and who suffered in the first and foremost powerful, organised jail during the freedom struggle are sitting armed revolution which was recognised by here. They know better than me about fourteen countries of the world. He formed their sacrifice and dedication for the the first Provisional Government of inde- country. I would request the Government pendent India of which he was the Presi- to grant pension for all ex-INA men dent. He was the Chief of the Army Staff. without any discrimination. Then he declared war on the British Go- vernment and its allied powers. Then INA was winning upto Assam and they formed the first Government of free India. There are about 10,000 people in T am il It appeared then that Netaji was going to Nadu who are without any pension. I free India. Then Netaji disappeared. would appeal to the Government that they According to history, this is his third death. should not demand a strict scrutiny of the I fear that the Indian history should be evidence to show that they were in redrawn. The history of pre-independence the INA. I met Mr. Shahnawaz Khan war of India should be completely re-drawn many time during the last session. He was and reshaped because Netaji’s indepen- the Chairman of the Pension Committee dence war has been completely suppressed for grant of pension to INA men.X^He by the Congress Government. I do not promised me many times saying, “You know why they have suppressed it. Now I just give an iota of evidence. I will grant appeal to the hon. Home Minister, who pension.'’ But his promise was only on the is sitting here on behalf of the Prime lips. He did not implement it. To ask for Minister and the Govt, of India, to hang some iota of evidence, ^ome oral evidence a portrait in the Central Hall of Netaji. or documentary evidence, to show that a Not only Netaji but the portrait of Rajaji. person was enrolled in the INA is all right. should also be opened in the Central Hall. But the Government should not be so very There should not be any discrimination or strict about the scrutiny of evidence. They a biased view or prejudicial view against have lost all the property, they have lost any leader of India. We respect Nehruji all their family members, they have lost as the light of Asia. We respect Netaji everything. On the other hand, our free- as the lion of Asiatic countries. Even dom fighters were safe.|\ There was no Winston Churchill, the then Prime Minis- danger to their lives. ^Of course, ter of England, had said that he had there was danger to life for many leaders. only two enemies in the world, first Hitler But there was a great danger to INA men and second Netaji. Netaji was the second who were fighting on the batde-field.* ^They enemy of the British Government. did not expect any military post;,they did That is why, he had branded Netaji as his not expect any MP’s post; they did not enemy. The INA history was not properly expect any M LA’s post; they did not expect propagated, published and respected by any Ambassador’s post. They joined the the Indian History and the then Govern- INA to die for the country, for the mother- ment of India, I request that the land. Therefore, they are the greatest entire history of INA should be redrawn. sacrificing personalities anywhere in the world. Therefore, I would appeal to the hon. Home Minister to grant pension to all the ex-INA men to whom we recom- mend or to whom they deem fit and pro- per to grant pension. Then I come to the INA. In the Red Fort trial so may people got acquittals and so many were punished for some offence. As I said, I would request the hon. According to the British rule, it was an Home Minister to unveil Netaji’s portrait offence. It is our birthright to fight against in the Central Hall. I would also request the foreigners to free our country from the the Government to have Netaji’s statue foreign bondage, foreign slavery. But the just opposite the Parliament House at the British people held the Red Fort trial and commencement of the Parliament Street. punished the INA men as they waged a war It is our duty to respect our motherland. against the British Government. We If you respect Netaji, it means we are res- waged a war against the British people, to ecting our motherland. It is high time to drive them out of our motherland. Many ave a statue of Netaji just in front of the of the ex-INA men and their legal heirs are Parliament House. On behalf of the roaming in the streets without any liveli- Anna DM K, I would request the Govern- hood or any employment. They are ment to do all these things to satisfy not without any-.work. I would request the only the people of Tamil Nadu but the Government and appeal to the hon. Home people of India for Netaji and the INA men Minister to treat ex-INA men at least who sacrificed everything for the indepen- hundred times, if not thousand times, better dence of India, for the liberation of India, than our freedom fighters. I am not for the liberation of the Asian countries and senior politician; I am a junior politician* for the liberation of humanity. 211 Khosla Commis- DECEMBER 8, 1977 sum Report on Netaji Bose (M) [Sh ri K. Mayat hevar] honour and glory that Netaji rightly deser- ves. The history of Netaji is unique, Finally, I would again request the Go- Netaji is a history unto himself, Netaji is a vemmcnt to consider giving jobs and the lenged. Let us not forget that history financial aid to the legal heirs of the INA and let it pass into oblivion. The history men. They have died for the causc of the of Netaji should not be allowed to pass in country. If they had not joined the INA, the realm of hearsay and fables. they would have amassed wealth here. We should not forget that Gandhiji is They died in battlefield in Burma or accepted as father of the nation, and the Malaysia or Singapore. Their legal generator of our national conscience but heirs are left without anything; they have if anybody has contributed fully and indivi- no safety or security, because those ex-INA dually to our country’s freedom, that con- men dedicated their lives for the country. tribution is of Netaji’s and nobody else’s. I would request Government to consider If we have achieved freedom through the giving governmental aid for their legal dedicated efforts of any individual that is heirs in the various educational institutions. Netaji. Nobody else can claim any credit In res ipect of employment opportunities for that, this I will myself humbly submit. also, Government should give those legal I will remind the House a little of the events heirs top-most priority and preference. of the period prior to 1947. The British had come out victorious in the second world war and the whole of India was converted into an arsonal of the Britishers. Then With these words, I support the motion what was the cause due to which they had brought forward by before this hon. House to leave this country? That was not by Shri Samar Guha. I thank you Mr. surely due to the fear of the nonviolent Deputy-Speaker, for having given me the agitations. After 1945 the existence of the time to speak on this subject. National Congress was in jeopardy. At that time the Congress took help from Netaji and the INA and thereby consoli- ♦SHRI S. K. SARKAR (Joynagar) : dated their position and regained the Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, please allow me height of popularity in this country. That to speak in Bengali, my mother-tongue, forced them to recognise Netaji and the on this occasion. I congratulate hon. Britishers were compelled to leave this Shri Samar Guhar for enabling me to fulfil country. The English handed over the the historic task and duty of discussing the reins of Government to us on 15th disappearance of Netaji Subhash Chander August 1947 and wc can confidently say Bose, a duty which Shri Samar Guha is that this action was not for fear of the non- relentlessly pursuing for the past ten years violent agitators. They realised that the or more. As an ardent follower and ad- dormant valcano in the minds of the Indians mirer of Netaji, I consider it my sacred was about to erupt. They saw the Castle duty to contribute to the discussion. I Barrack mutiny of Bombay and the R.A.F. have to hang my head in shame just to mutiny. They saw the people’s insurgent think that a controversy has to be raised and uprisings which were concentrated on on Netaji even after 20 long years of our the trials going on in the Red Fort. The independence. Netaji is not only a name clever British, the shopkeeper British he is a lenged, he is an illustrious character realised at that time that what was more embodiment of unparallel patriotism, per- needed was commercial power rather sonality and leadership. I do not know than his .political power. That is why whether there is a parallel of such patrio- they gave up their sovereign political power. tism in today’s world history. But I can But before they left they of course divided surely say that this has no other parallel. our country into two or three pieces. This great soul escaped from the bastions of Whatever may be the reason, if we tried the British and went out to fight for the to forget the memory of this great patriot freedom of his country and built up a of India then there cannot be any other massive organisation to achieve his ends. national crime of equal magnitude. I am His efforts inspite of his being a citizen of a not well I will only ask that why he will be country which was under foreign domina- dragged for discussion every now and tion is also unparallel and his contri- then? Why could we not all take a deci- bution for the cause of his country’s free- sion that all facts and documents and other dom can never be forgotten. But it is a information in connection with Netaji’s matter of great shame that we have to raise mystery should be placed before the Parlia- discussion in this House to restore the glory ment by the Present Government of its own. and honour that he deserves. The leader- Whereby we and all the people of this ship of the country which is responsible for country can be properly informed and en- this situation certainly cannot deserve any lightened. Sir, we know that the Shah credit. There should be an unanimous Nawaz Commission was set up in this demand from all sides of this House for connection and we also know that this taking immediate steps to restore all the Commission was a big joke of history. 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’rat^ft if qf strtt qrt5ftgft? sr*^ar ^ ^it zr^j qr I's m |( zr% S 7&r m if ^t*ff qft 5TOv^t ^fft ^ilV> sftr ^ ‘»ft ft? ftpr ^rFn % ■ qft ftf^r lT?r^-^T % ^ if ^fr*T ^T5T aHwft ft, ’ 3^T 5TTf % ^ftnt ^t ^T 5T5T |, ^r qsn;-^ if ^rrsft qfr Jj?q ft ^t 'srrf qr^% q?t ftF^rrft ^ft ^Tff ^ HT ?^t ^ ^ f>ft ^nf^ I ftRT %rTT % ^VT % f^TTT ftrat^t ’ft^iwTft ^rftqf ft: ^rift vt ^3f % «flT5T fti^I, ^T% fVt n ^.*1 ^ ftw 3Rf ^r ff «fk ft i 5® Ehm i irnr ft> ^ tt ^fwft^r ^rS | *t ^ ^ft 2 1 7 Khosla Commis- AGRAHAYANA 17, 1809 (SAKA) «ion Report on 2x8 Netaji Bose (M) I* 't 'f 'l I | ? wff, ffft i^nrr f t fv R rr w r r »T^t 'S»i+\ ffWTT W I «rr 1 3ft Iff eTCf *?t *ft»ff tf SF^Tf^Tt ^SRrft SHRI SAUGATA ROY (Barrakpore): T f t ^ S f t % *f Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise to speak on the Motion moved by Prof. 5R> + < ^ ?PT ^ I %TT 'T'^li Samar Guha, namely : iff | % ^rnft^r fT^mNnr fir^ “ That the House do consider the Report ^ifftr «rr, *tf fffrft ^ff m ^t (1974) of the Commission of Inquiry into the disappearance of Netaji Subhas ffr^n- ?t ?rff % tt i *rcnt ^ *ft Chandra Bose laid on the Table of the House on the 3rd September, i974»” f f f t fa^TT, I f f % fftft «Tt*T I f f 4Td 3Ft *ili^| ?> ^>ff % Sir, I happen to come from that part of India, to which this great son of India >ff I f f Iel% ?TOf % T rft vfpff 3 3 5 belonged. I do not claim any special pri- ^ t ^ fff^ fr f t ^ttct % jt? ? vilege for that. I know that Netaji Subhas ^ 1 CO Chandra Bose was not a Bengali patriot but ^t ^>ff *Tf *ft ^dH an Indian partiot, who dreamt of India as a whole, who dreamt of the IndianNation ?Tff ^ W «TT TfT $, *Tf 5ft «*T Stk as a whole, who dreamt of the vision, of [Shri Saugata Roy] being. Obviously, this Commission has not satisfied a large number of people in this country because, still the people do the^ foremost patriots in this country. strongly believe that the circumstances in He is the champion of an uncompromising this matter were not fully investigated into struggle against imperialism in the coun- the evidences were not complete .and try. many also believed that Justice Khosla's Khosla's recommendations were onesided. The aspersion about the Judges is not the This question of Inquiry into Netaji had first ; nor will that be the last. The hon. a long background and a long history. It Home Minister here has appointed so was reported originally that Netaji had many Commissions with judges as their died in an air crash. Then India was not heads ; the same allegations against free. We were under the yoke of the judges are being made with regard to British • Two years later India became this Commission/ Prof. Samar Guha also free. It became the people's demand has mentioned that Justice Khosla^ met and the people's aspiration that the Gov- the former Prime Minister several times. ernment should go into the causes and Like that, it is now being mentioned that circumstances leading to the reported Justice Shah has met our Home Minister death of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose. several times and the whole thing cannot Accordingly, as we all know, the first Com- be above doubt or above questions. mission was appointed with Mr. Shah Nawaz Khan as Chairman. Netaji’s elder brother, Suresh Chandra Bose and So, as I said, the recommendation or one civilian Mr. S.N. Maitra was there the findings of one man Commission as member of this commission. They went appointed by the Government of India into depth about the facts surrounding the is not to be considered as conclusive has misterious disappearance of Netaji. They also been reported in several newspapers. came out with a report. The majority I have one magazine with me. This is report held the view that the report about the Statesman which was brought out the Tipeh air-crash was final and conclu- on the Independence Day this year. sive, although, Mr. Suresh Chandra Bose, Here it was commented by a knowlegeable Netaji’s elder brother said, it was not author on Netaji’s life that Justice Khosla exclusive, the evidence was not strong Commission and his investigation left enough But the demand in this country much to he desired. The m ain reason did not die down, because, a why one should doubt Justice Khosla’s large number of people felt and felt Report and findings is that Justice Khosla strongly that the full circumstances of the mainly depended on oral evidence which case had not been looked into. And this was put forward before him. He had every demand continued. Wc must, in this little documentary evidence to si;ppcit regard, pay our compliments to Prof. that the..rv that Netaji was severly injured Samar Guha, the illustrious freedom due to the air crash and that he suffered fighter from out State. But, for his endur- from severe burns; he was first treated at ing efforts, the second Commission on the the hospital and later on died in the inquiry into Netaji’s death would not have hospital at Taipeh. Uptill now, no conclu- come into being. sive evidence, no documentary evidence, has come out in this reagrd and those people who were supposed to be with him, Even Justice Khosla, about whom Prof. a t the time he was being treated in the Samar Guha, has a lot of things to say hospi al have not been properly,ider tifi< d. commends Prof. Guha’s efforts in this mat- T w o J a p a n e se doctors w ere, if I m ay say ter. Justice Khosla in his report which so, not properly identified whether they was submitted in 1974 says about Prof. wrere the v e r y same p e o p le who actually Samar Guha as a dedicated, uncompro- were supposed to have treated Netaji. So, mising follower of Netaji. He has little it is also my conviction that this needs to doubt that he has been actuated by the be investigated first. I a^rec with Prof. highest motives in doubting the truth of Guha when he says that the whole report of the Khosla Commission which was the story and in unravelling the story of Bose's disappearance. Then, again, in a cce p te d by the previous Government should be scrapped as there is no sufficien t the whole report, Chapter 8 practically ev id en ce on the basis of which a fresh refers to Prof. Guha’s efforts and com- investigation should be sta rted . mendationsto him and arguments about the evidence put forward by Prof. Guha. As I was saying the sentiments associated with Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose arc also great. Therefore, the bureaucratic So, in 1970 when the Commission way the Government have acccptcd this was originally initiated under Justice Report is not going to satisfy a large Khosla, it was due to the efforts of Prof. number of people living in this country Guha that this Commission came into [ Khosla Commit* AGRAHAYANA 17, 1800 (SAKA) sion Report on 2 3 * Netaji Bose (M) f Therefore, I join Prof. Guha’s pleading Sir, I have also received one letter that our Party from our side and I also from one Shri Karm Singh Bheria. He is personally feel very strongly that there from Kaula Lumpur, Malaysia. He is it much to be doubted about Justice one of the surviving members of Netaji’s Khosla’s statement. The report which was Indian National Army and he has reported accepted should be scrapped. It should that in Malaysia among a large number be re-opened and in consultation with of Indians living there Netaji’s thci pi ts the Members of Parliament a fresh Comm- are still discussed and they try to keep ittee of Enquiry should be set-up to investi- alive not only the thought but the spirit gate the actual causes leading to the death under which INA, Rani of Jhansi League of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose. and Indian Independence League were born. Further, Sir, after the Khosla Commi- 16 hr*, ssion report had been submitted in 1964 the transfer of power papers have now Shri Karam Chand Bheria reported been opened and several documents and that many of the ex-freedom fighters letters supposed to have been written were living. They are in a very difficult by the then Home Department. Officers of financial condition and they are not gett- Uhe British Government have come to ing the pension and other amenities that light. They throw a new and different have been extended to freedom fighters sort of light on the whole mystery which who have been living in this country. has not been gone into in depth uptil now. I would also request the hon. Home In t is new and changed circumstances Minister to consider application of these there is no reason why this government facilities to the Indian National Army or for that matter any government should soldiers who arc now lwing in Malaysia. stand on prestige and not agree to open In this connection, I may also mention the issue, I think and I strongly feel that without going into controversies that, to this issue should be re-opened imme- my belief, Mrs. Anita Bose, Netaji’s diatley. daughter is living in the United States. R e c e n tly one of our friends who is a Mem- ber of Parliament, Shri Subhash Chandra Sir, let our efforts not end with the Bose Alluri, had occasion to go to the circumstances leading to the reported United States. There he contacted all death of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose. the Bengali Associations in order to meet Netaji was not only a patriot but a great Mrs. Anita Bose, who has since married thinker who was the first exponent of and is living with her husband in some scientific socialism in this country. He place in the United States. Efforts must had a vision of India which would be free be taken by the Indian Embassy in Wa- from exploitation. He did not think of shington to locate Netaji’s daughter so any utopian way to achievc this end. that the daughter of our great patiiot He had in his mind positive, scientific gets some help from the Government, and socialist approches to this as they used to get fiom the Trust set end. His uncompromising attitude to up in the memory of I.N.A. soldiers. I Imperialism remains very relevant again commend what Prof. Guha said today and his thinking about the future in his very detailed analysis that without of India, his thinking about the whole going into controversies, Netaji’s death planning process, his thinking about the has not been pro perly investigated. There domocratic set-up and his thinking about should not be any hesitation on the j.ait the course of development that we have o f the Governm ent to set u p a new C om - to follow remain very valid today Sir, it mission of Enquiry. Not o n ly that. I also is very necessary at this stage to go into support Prof. Guha’s proposal in his depth regarding Netaji’s writing just Bill which has been brought before the as now we have started reviewing Gandhiji’s House for declaring Netaji’s birthday as economic thoughts and ideas. In a similar a n atio n al holiday. I also support Prof. way we should try and re-open the issue Guha’s proposal in renaming the A nda- of Netaji’s thoughts. In this connection man & Nicobar Islands as Swaraj and I have only to mention that in the house Shahid Dwcep as they are the first islands where Netaji lived in Calcutta— it is visited by Netaji’s soldiers an d the 1NA. called Netaji Bhavan— Netaji Reserach Bureau is functioning. I had the occasion Sir, last year, I had an occasion to go to visit that Bureau several times and I to Kohima where a memorial for the was very happy to sec that scholars not INA soldiers still exists. This memorial •nly from India but also all over the world was built by our Government, after evince lot of interest not only in Netaji’s independence. This memorial should be life but also on his thinking in economic declared as a national memorial like and social matters. So, the Government the one at the place where Gandhiji should come forward with ^11 possible died. So, this memorial in Kohima should help to this Netaji’s Research Bureau be declared as a national memorial. that is functioning at the place where With this, I again support strongly the this patriot lived. contention that the whole issue of -22 3 Khoela Commis- DECEM BER 8, 1977 sion Re port on 224 Netaji Bose (M) [Sh ri Saugata Roy] | Riejwrc « pt wk qf ^fir ^ spT^r ^t, Nctaji’s disappearance should be reopened. ^ f ^ Ft I WT | ft rF* ft ifJn W JTCTR : (tftarc) : ^TT ft^ T »T ft W ft 'Iff ■hH ti I 3»rr®ra t w faro ^ v* ft ^f *R *ItT | pft cTTHj iR^9T ft %ttt | ft ftrr *nrr *p«r?at ft ^ff^ f^^r tnt?r ft, *tt ^ ^t *r srtfr, wk Ten ?mT% % f?rq sfk snr ft m*t ^P*?t g«R ft^ toet qfft, ^5^t 5FR # ^ftftcT ff ?rk ft eft ft# eRf ftsfar^ Tftft^f^ W m+« ?ri% % f?n^ 1 ^ *r t | i f*r 3 * h Vfpft ^ft +^t '’ITeft ^ ft %eTT «ft ^ qf fsRTT ^T*ft T|tft ft TOT ^f '3R %ZJT ffk ^ft% TfT TOT t TT sftfaeT | I *Jf ft ^ ^Ter ^t irk shr *r tot |, eft tot m fR fapHd |, %ft* t?ft fHeT ft ft ^ *fk fts eRf % *rt, tfk st^ft ?elft +rRt< ft ^TTTTTf ft ffr^dM *7R ^T % f® «Tf«r1fl faff tft frr^r ^Ft ^ef^eTT ^T JT7* 5fet fRTT 5TFT eft ft 3?f 3T35 *fk 'prr ^ wtk ft stfrt 1 ft^ ?mt sfn; I ft ferrf * ft ^r^t- ^ t^rt tort ^rrft t^tt ^Tffir srk ^f tow v& ift fftcft * %Q *P^FET ir ®^t 5ITTPT % ^'rtl'Ti ^ »Tft ft Ft+eii «lf'+ «tifl*ft fif ?t ^ I ^T fwtr ff 3^Tft *T ^ft ft ft ?TTeTT I ^Tft ^t q|^ 3TT% |tr fafc ^R TT^ 3TW f^FTT I Tf ?ft * ft «fk ft «ft eft ?Iff 3(f ^T ^fk * ^TeT eft *Tf | ft TOT 5ft % ?n^ET if ^t*tt ^ 1 ^fT ^rmT | ?rk *lf ftfa vTCT ^ 3 ft ft ^t 3RT SraTor «ft tft^RT | ft Tf5T eft 3f ?rqft | ft *n? ftft ?m ^rrr to feqi^r TO ^t 5TeT 3|pff ^t TOlft *ft ^r sfk to-?* ?rff 5pr?r flft » sf hr to , JTff^> ^ft 5T^gTrTSft3fr?f^f *Tf 37eT ^?T *t STR it ^Tft fTOTFft ^ft JTffs^r $ TOtft ^fARrt sfty *rf, *rf fttTOr ft TOtft |, «ftft^r%?rr?o it^o ito %?nrft?iffft ftfft «TR-R ?TTO spt fsTIJTT wt t^T«ar ft^ H tg qft Tf ITTT # iEfTT *rk fRRt vt at^r fror ^rfor ft *flf o ITq’c (To q?t *T-ef ^"teff ^T ’ft TOT fsRnt dH'M =hh ?tpt ’tot *t% i ^rff f5TOT^t ^HT 3neTT «T! 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Those people did stop Shahnawaz Khan Committee Report. at the bidding of somebody ; but history did not stop; and history did not accept So far as the Khosla Commission’s the bidding of anybody, however big report is concerned, the whole trouble or powerful he or she may be. Therefore, is that Government did accept it in the history continued, and history was made House in the year 1976, on 16th January, by Netaji. It is well-known, and it is in a captive Parliament— while Parliament also evidentially true, that Netaji had a enjoyed an extended life and was being well-considered plan to shift his area of treated as a captive and pliant one. On operation at a particular point of time. that occasion— and for that reason alone— This is of very crucial importance, and was that report adopted by the Govern- unless we take not of this crucial fact, ment. I would urge upon the present we shall miss the entire link. Ministry to take not of that fact also. I say with all sense of responsibility that the Khosla Commission’s report should be In this connection, I would only like rejected, and rejected with all the contempt to mention certain points, namely, the that it deserves, I say this because I have statements made by Nelle, Shri Shah nawaz got certain arguments— although I do Khan himself, Shri S. A. Iyer, the Minister not have the time to explain them. For of Publicity and Propaganda, Shri E. the benefit of the House, I will merely Bhaskaran, confidential secretary to mention the points on the basis of which Netaji, Shri Sahay, Terachu and Tada. that report has to be rejected lock, stock I have not enough time to discuss all and barrel. their evidence and all the facts given in the statements, but the statements made by these persons before the Khosla One : the Khosla Commission’s report Commission prove that Netaji had a was not based on any document produced well-considered plan to shift his area of either before the Shahnawaz Commission operation. Here my allegation against or before the Khosla Commission itself, the Khosla Commission is that they were to show that at least one plane flew in not willing to pursue the history in that the skies of Taihoku on 18th August particular direction to know why certain 1945. Two : All the Japanese evidence, things happened, what happened, what including that of the alleged Co-passen- did take place after the so-called 18th gers and military personnel, is hear-say August 1945 plane crash. evidence on death, or alleged death of Netaji. Three: No documentary evidence Shri Shahnawaz Khan said that even has been produced to show that the as early as 1944 Netaji was trying to contact so-called passengers actually boarded the Russians so that the war of liberation the alleged ill-fated plane. Four: Even could continue from there. Shri S. A. Iyer their identity has not been established said that it was decided by Netaji Subhas by applying ordinary legal procedures. Chandra Bose that the base of the liberation Five: None of them knew Netaji Subhash struggle should be shifted to Russia. Chandra Bose from an earlier period. According to Shri A. N. Sahai, it was Six: The evidence of the Taiwanese on decided to have a territorial committee the plane crash and on the alleged death with headquarters at Sama and branch of Netaji was merely hear-say evidence. in Tiro, another town in Manchuria. However, such an evidence is non-sense. He claims that an office at Hanoi was Only the doctors claimed to have seen set up with a view to talk with the Chinese Netaji dying, but their evidence is at such and Russian communists and to meet a variance on material particulars and Ho-Chi-Minh in this connection. There- fundamentals, that the same has no evi- fore, the story does not end there. He dentiary value, Therefore, nothing re- had a well-considered plan to shift his mains to come to a finding that Netaji’s area of operation, to deal the final blow plane did really crash. to imperialism to free the South East Asian people from the bondage of imperi- alism. Here the Khosla Commission con- That being the case, my proposition veniently forgets to pursue this direction. is that no plane crash, as alleged, did take place ; and there is no question of the so-called death of N etaji as a result o f that plane crash ; as alleged. M y i6* 34 hr*. second point in this connection is in regard to the developments which followed [Shri M . Satyanarayana Rao in after the 18th August 1945. For M r. the Chair] Shahnawaz or Mr. Khosla, history stopped at a particular point of time, on the 18th There is another point of vital im- August 1945; and, therefore, they ended portance. What did the British Govern- the whole episode by giving the death ment really think about it ? What was certificate on Netaji Subhash Bose; but the in tendon of the British Government 233 Khosla Commis- AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 ( SAKA ) sion Report on 234 Netaji Bose (M) at that time ? I would only mention a offenders. The following were the prin- particular letter, written by Mr. R. cipal points raised in discussion :— ► Mudie, Home Member, dated 23-8-45 —the date is to be particularly noted— (1) It was generally agreed that the which was five days after the plane only civilian renegade of importance crash. was Subhas Chandra Bose.” This was the Cabinet decision of the U.K. Netaji is supposed to have died on 8th held on the 25th October, 1945, five months August, 1945, but on 23rd August, 1945, after the date of the so called plane crash. the Home Member writes to Mr. Jenkins. If you like, I can lay it on the Table of (2) On the question whether Indian the house, as I do not have the time to read renegades rounded up outside India should the whole of it. He says : br brought to India for trial. “I have examined your suggestion that Bose be treated as a ‘war criminal’. I do not want to read further because He clearly is not one in the or- my point has been met. What dinary sense of that word. Nor I want to drive at home is that the does he appear to come within the British Government, Lord Wavell and the extended definition which has Cabinet of the United Kingdom had no now been adopted by the United evidence as late as 25th October, 1945 Nations. In this connection I that Netaii had died on a particular date would refer you to the air mail in a particular accident. On the other edition of the Times of August hand, Wavell’s suggestion was that this plane crash episode might have been used 9th” as a camouflage to go underground. And he encloses a note. In this note he has given a five-point suggestion with re- gard to the treatment to be meted out to As I have earlier mentioned that Netaji. I am not interested in the sugges- Netaji had a well-conceived, well-thought tion made by the British officials for the out plan to shift his area of operation for treatment to be meted out to Netaji. I the liberation not only of the people of am only mentioning the particular date, India but for the liberation of the people which is five days after the so-called death of South East Asia so that the mankind of Netaji. If you go through the paper, might be free from imperialism, you will see that he has said : capitalism and totalitarism all over the world. “leave him where he is and don’t ask for his surrender”. What does it mean ? In this contest, let us discuss and scrutinise It clearly means that the British Govern- Khosla Commission’s Report. I am ment at that time did not believe that not at all interested what the Khosla Co- Netaji had died on 18th August, 1945. mmission has mentioned about Netaji and what he has used about him be- Lord Wavell also in a note or in his au- cause Subhas Chandra Bose is much tobiography says that the so-called plane bigger and cannot be up graded or con- crash was nothing but a convenient plea demned by any kind of epithets by to go underground. This is all on record a judge, sitting or retired. Therefore, in the Cabinet Papers. I am not bthered about the epithets. I fear he was working at the instance of Lastly I wish to refer to what the British somebody. Cabinet decided on 25th October, 1945, i.«\ more than two months after the alleged Now, there is a changed political situa- death of Netaii. It reads as follows : tion. International situation has also un- dergone vast changes. There have been “India and Burma Committee. I.B. alignments and re-alignments ; there has (45) 6th Meeting. Those present been friendship and enmity but the at this Meeting held at 10 Dow- truth must come out. There has ning Street, S.W.I., on 25th been vast political change in our October 1945 at 12 noon were : country also. In this changed political Mr. Atlee (in the Chair), Sir situation both within the country and on Stafford Cripps, Lord Pethick- the international plane, it would be the Lawrence, Miss Ellen Wilkinson, duty of this august House to demand of the Earl of Listowel. the Government at present to scrap the Khosla Commission’s report, to reopen the ‘Also present were : Mr. G.M. Hall, Mr. A. Henderson Mr. E.A. chaptcr and continue to pursue the clues which have been given at various points Amstrong and M.J.P. Cibson of time by people at various levels with re- (Secretariat). gard to what happened after 18th August, The Committee turned to a considera- 1945 because, I think, the House ana the tion of the principles which should govern countrymen are convinced tnal Netaji’s tnal and punishment of Indian civilian death did not take place on the 18th 235 Khosla Commw- DECEMBER 8, 1977 sion Report on Netaji Bose (M) [Shri Chitta Basu] I can also mention a number of great people outside the field of social reform and re- August, 1945. The duty and responsi- ligion. In every sphere of activity, Ben- 5 bility lies with the House to continue to gal has produced great people. make an enquiry on the basis of these clues which have been found all over the world after 18th August, 1945. I belong to the post-Independence ge- neration of Indians, a generation which did I extended my support to the motion no have the fortune of paricipating in the moved by Shri Samar Guha. freedom struggle because we were too young and we were at school when the Dr. KARAN SINGH (Udhampur) : Mr. freedom struggle finally reached its great Chairman, Sir, the great movement for culmination in 1947. Even as a school national regeneration and freedom boy, I recall there were two figures on the that took place in India lasted only about Indian political scene who very specially 90 years from 1857 to 1947. But in those caught and fired our youthful imagination, 90 years, it threw up a galaxy of great men Jawaharlal Nehru and Netaji Subhas and women, probably unique in thes his- Chandra Bose. As far back as I can re- tory of any regeneration movement, free- member, these were the two figures who dom movement, in the world . were associated in our minds with thew dynamism, the patriotism, the glowing power and the vigour behind the struggle It is interesting for all students of the of (he freedom movement. Although we Indian national movement to see the very did not have the opportunity to parti- special role that Bengal played in the cipate in that great event, none-the-less, Indian renaissance. There were several we were able at second-hand to get some reasons. One is, of course, the fact that feel of the situation that developed at that Bengal was the first province to feel the time. impact of the British, therefore, it was able to react earlier, and also because of the very special qualities of head and heart of the people who inhabited Bengal. I must say that Netaji’s life has been a remarkable epic in patriotism. His glow- ing commitment to the freedom struggle Even before the freedom movement as of the country, his magnificent obsession such started, the so-called Indian renai- with the fight against all discrimination ssance began with the social reform m o ve- and all colonial rule, his courage in the ments. Raja Ram Mohan Roy founded lace of tremendous odds, is something the Brahmo Samaj. Devcn dranath Thakur which marks Netaji out as a very remark- founded the Adi-Brahmo Samaj and Keshab able and extra-ordinary personality. Chandra Sen founded the Brahmo Samaj There are many people in this House who^ of India. The great movement have greater knowledge about his life. for social reform began in the heart But from what I have seen and read, his of Hinduism. Subsequently, in life is replets with a number of dramatic - Bengal also those two great luminaries of episodes. It is not a normal life ; it is our spiritual history, Shri Ramakishna not a life of a normal person who starts and Swami Vivekananda began their and who carries on in a single way. remarkable partnership which resulted in There are sudden developments. There a virtual revival and re-interpretation of are dramatic disappearances. There arc religion to meet the challenge of the times astounding hair-breadth escapades. His in which they lived. whole life reads like som e kind of an extra- ordinary combination of the Scarlet Pim- After the political movement started pernel and James Bond, a person who was with the founding of the Indian National disappearing and appearing again.If Congress in 1885 by Mr. A.O. Hume, the we try to enter the mind of the person, he people of Bengal were in the vanguard of was overwhelmed by one single emotion, the movement and they produced a num- one single desire, one single commitment, ber of very remarkable figures like Bipin and that was to make India free, and Chandra Pal. whatever means were at his disposal, he was prepared to use them, and he did use them in order to further the cause ot Shri Aurbindo Ghosh, the great prophet Indian freedom to which he was totally of Indian nationalism, a man whose vision absolutely, committed. Specially thf is still unfolding as history moves onwards ; last chapter of his life, from his dramatic C.R. Das, the great jurist and lawyer. disappearance from Calcutta in December And one of the most remarkable of these 1941 to the reported or presumed or personalities was Netaji Subhas Chandra supposed plane-crash in 1945. Now, Bose. There was Rabindranath Tagore what happened after the plane-crash lifs in the field of letters; Acharya Profulla Ray, been a subject of intense and highly a scientist ; S.C. Bose and many others. emotional controversy. 237 khosla Commis- AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) sion Report #ft 238 Netaji Bose (Af) Im m ediately after freedom, stories and ability, there is no reason why Netaji, began circulating that Netaji was still who is one year younger than him, should alive. I remember, my mother was not be in full possession of his faculties living in Kangra in Himachal Pradesh and should not be able, still, if he is alive, and this was some where in the mid-fifties to make some major contribution. Of and I got a letter from her to say that course, the question will be asked : ‘If there was something very important that he is alive, why has he not put in his app- she wanted to tell me. When I went earance ? It is a question to which no next, she said that some message had rea- satisfactory answer has been given. But ched her that Netaji Subash Chandra I would appeal to the hon. Home Minister Bose was still alive and was somewhere in and say that, as a result of some earlier that area. I am not saying that that documents and as a result of some new was an authenticated thing. I am sim- documents which Prof. Sarma Guha ply saying that these reports with regard brought to our notice, particularly the to Netaji's survival, with regard to the Transfer of Powrer documents which he fact that he was somewhere, for some rea- quoted, there is a large section of our son, in the hiding, began to circulate al- countrymen who are still not convinced most immediately after independence, and that Netaji has passed away. Therefore, subsequently they have, witli passage of if there is a demand that there should time, not shown any sign of diminishing. be yet another enquiry, I for one, In fact, these stories are still continuing to would welcome it. But I will not say circulate. ‘scrap this’ or ‘scrap that’. It is not a quesion of scrapping any report. Khosla’s report is there and, whether you accept Both the Commissions that have been it or not, any new Enquiry Commission set up in 1956 the three-man Committee appointed will have to take into account headed by Shri Shashnawaz Khan, and what Khosla has said. It is not a question in 1970 the G.D. Khosla Commission— of scrapping a report : it is a question of concluded, the first one by a^majority, that making a f urther enquiry in the light of Netaji had been killed in the plane-crash. such documents as may be produced and But, evidently, a large number of people such inconsistencies and contradictions are not convinced. I was here in the last in Khosla’s report as may be proved to the Session— the hon. Home Minister was also satisfaction of who ever is making the present—when my good friend Prof. enquiry. Samar Guha, with all the ability, emotion and dedication of which he is capablc, So, both in keeping with the sentiments built up before us a very interesting hy- of a large section of our people and also pothesis to disprove the G.D. Khosla in keeping with the fact that a case has Commission’s report. I do not intend been made out for a new enquiry. We to go into all the various details that he from this side of the House, would wel- mentioned— the contradictions, the strange come it. If the Hon. Home Minister events, the fact that his body was not would set up another Commission it identified, the fact that no photograph would be welcome, I am sure, to all sec- was taken, the fact that those doctors tions of the House. Let us see if any who were there were never examined, further information comes to light. But and so on. But he built up a very in- I am afraid this will have to be the last teresting hypothesis. I remember having Commission because we cannot go on listened to him, and if one had an open ad infinitum appointing Commission after mind, I must say, one could not fail to be Commission. As Chaudhuriji is well impressed by Prof. Samar Guhal’s argu- versed in setting up Commissions, if he ments ; one may or may not be convinced sets up another Commission .on this, wc because this is an issue upon which will welcome it. conviction really is virtually impossible. The best way, of course, to disprove the Khosla Commission's report would be But whether Netaji is alive physically that happy day when Netaji in fact appears or not is a matter, quite frankly, which because if Netaji appears, the report is open to doubt. We cannot conclude automatically stands scrapped, stands dis- that he is alive and we cannot conclude carded, But until that welcome day that he is dead. In the absence of any comes, it will remain a matter of specu- definitive finding, we cannot coclude lation. A lot of people ask : ‘Where is either way. Therefore, for a man who Netaji ? Why has he not put an appearance has spent his entire life in the service of if he is alive ?’ It is a good question. our nation and whose whole days and Certainly he must be growing older, al- nights were filled with only one dream, though, I understand even today he would wc as a nation can do this much for his be one year younger than our hon. Prime memory and appoint a third Commission. Minister. So we really cannot write off It is also said that if something is done the matter simply by saying that he would three times, it puts the seal of authority be too old. If the Prime Minister is to it, as it were : so let us have a third carrying on his work with great vigour Commission. But whether he is alive or 239 Khosla Commis- DECEMBER 8, 1977 sion Report on Netaji Bose (M) [Dr. Karan Singh] taken into account the facts revealed by these documents and I think no commis- not, he will always live in the hearts of sion, either the Shah Nawas Committee this grateful country. As long as India or the Khosla Commission, had ever made survives and as long as the call *Jai Hind* any inquiry w'ith the consent of the British survives, so long will Netaji’s memory Government in the British War Archieves survive in this country. Ultimately, phy- of those times some of which have just sical mortality is not the question. AH come out in the course of the publication human-beings have to go one day. As the of the Transfer of Power papers. Isho-Upanishad says : Ultimately, the body has} to vanish Secondly, the facts and materials in into dust. How-soever long we survive we possession of the Taiwan Government have to move, one day or the other, to- have never been examined on the plea wards spiritual rest. So, it is not a question that we do not have any diplomatic rela- of physical mortality : it is a question of tions with the Taiwan Government but immortality of the spirit and the ideals for the fact is that there is a government, de which this nation stood and stands today— facto and the Commission had been there, and Netaji embodied them in an [extraor- Prof. Samar Guha and other investigators dinary manner. I would therefore strongly had been there and even before that, a urge upon the Home Minister to appoint team of 5 MPs had been there but the yet another Enquiry Commission. documenls and facts in possession of the Taiwan Government with regard to the so-called air crash of 23rd August 1945 SHRI TRl DIB CHAUDHURI and their findings have never been Behrampur Sir, I don’t think that, taken into consideration. So, I see no after the unanimous demand from reason why there could not be another all sides of the House in support of investigation by a Commission, not one Prof. Samar Guha’s motionfor the man Commission but at least three man appointment of a new Commission to Commission may be a Member of go into the question of disappearance of Parliament may be associated with that Netaji, I am called upon to make a very and the whole question of the alleged death long speech. I merely rise to lend my of Netaji in the plane crash of 23rd August support (for what it is worth) to the power- should be investigated and this question ful plea already made with a wealth of should be set at rest once for all. This documents and materials by Prof. Guha we owe as a nation to ourselves and to the in the last session in this House. And memory of the geat patriot and great that has been more or less repeated and revolutionary as a result of whose efforis reiterated, as I have just said, by all sec- we enjoy the freedom that we have to-day. tions of the House. The demand is nearly So, I think, in view of the unanimous de- unanimous that a new Commission to go mand from all sides of the House there into the question should be appointed. should be no objection on the part of the Government to appoint a fresh investi- gation commission and I hope the Gt vein- ment would accept the demand. 17 hrs. Now, there is also not only the demand PROF. DILIP CHAKRAVARTY Cal- of this House, I might inform the House cutta South) : I thank you for offering me *hat in the West Bengal Assembly after an opportunity to participate in this de- the new left front Government came to bate. power there also was a unanimous de- mand made and a non-official resolution passed for the scrapping of the Khosla I join my colleagues on different sides Commission report and for the appoint- of this H o u se in demanding a fresh en- ment of a new commission of inquiry. quiry on the disappearance of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose. I have just now listened with rapt attention to the wonder- ful speech delivered by D r. K a r a n Sinph Apart from the criticisms that have been relating to the background of the free- made of the way that Mr. Justice Khosla dom movement and the role of Netaji went about with this inquiry, new facts and Subhas Chandra Bose in that stivgglc. documents have come out as just men- tioned by Dr. Karan Singh and also re- ferred to extensively by Prof. Samar Guha Sir, it was Prof. Samar Guha’s self- in the course of the publication of the determination and self-dedication to the Transfer of Power papers. Now, the cause which made it possible for him to coverage of Mr. Justice Khosla’s investi. deliver his long speech for 1 hr. and 45 gation was extrenely limited. Apart from minutes on the last occasion intimating whatever bias or prejudice he might have the incongruities in the Khosla Commis- had, it was clear that he could not have sion and also pointing out before this 241 KhotUi Commis- AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) sion Report on 9.^2. Netaji Bose (M) House that the Khosla Commission, Khosla to know all these things ? I though it was pressed upon at formosa question, Sir. to collect certain documents from the Formosa Government refused to do that. Then, I come to Finding No. 22. Just an hour before another hon. member It says : pointed out that Justice Khosla said that he was already under instructions from “All documents called for have been the theq Government of India not to have supplied and the delay in mak- any documents, not to have any evidence ing some files and documents from the Government of Formosa. As available cannot be construed as has just now be?n pointed out by our placing obstacle in the progress respected colleague Shri Tridip Chaudhuri of the inquiry.” there is a de facto Government continuing in Formosa. If Mr. Justice Khosla Interestingly, Sir, in page 113, Mr. Justice decided not to have documents which may Khosla himself admits that at least one have some importance, why was it ne- file could not be supplied by the Govern- cessary for him to go there to undertake ment of India. Who can deny that that shopping free as was told by Prof. Samar one file might have contained the most Guha last time. relevant information pertaining to the issue ? I was reading with a .little bit of rc- n-*wed curiosity the Report of the K hosla SHRI SAMAR GUHA : More than 35 Commisssioa. I would draw the attention special files which were specially maintain- of this House to the Notification of nth ed by the Confidere.itial Secretary of July, 1970. The relevant portion is— Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru were reported by the Government to the Khosla Com- mission to have either been “destroyed “ The Commission shall enquire into or missing” and all those files contained all the facts and circumstances information about the enquiry regarding relating to the disappearance of Netaji. Those files could not be sup- Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose in plied to the Commission. What more 1945 and the subsequent develop- do you want of that ? I have got a ments connected therewith and whole list and the numbers of those make its report to the Central files. Government.” PROF DILIP CHAKRAVARTY : This This is the most relevant part which you is a statement of a dedicated and venerable may describe as ‘Terms of Reference’ for Member of the House. He continued to the Khosla Commission. chase the Commission but unsuccess- fully. Mr. Justice Khosla could not get If you compare this with the Findings, all the possible evidence, all the records you would reach the inevitable conclu- and files needed. It is now the respon- sion that Mr. Justice Khosla had a one- sibility of all sections of the House to call track mind and had the intention to prove for a fresh inquiry into the matter. I am something which was clearly beyond the one of those who do not believe in the scope of the Commission itself. plane-crash story. I now recall my meet- ing with Justice Radha Binod Pal, a Mem- I would like to draw the attention of you, ber of the War-Crimes Tribunal at Tokyo. Sir, and the attention of the House to I had three sittings with him as early as one point. Here we have got Findings 1950. Justice Pal had an inquiring mind* Nos. 19 to 25. I consider them to be com- He enquired into these incidents. He pletely irrelevant. These were not at all was of the definite conclusion that ‘there related to the case regarding disappearance was no plane crash, — atleast, not on of Netaji and the so-called plane crash that day.' story and all tha Mr. Justice Khosla said : At least it was not on that date as already mentioned by Prof. Guha. But, “The Japabtiie ccked upon him” what has been referred just now by my — meaning, Netaji Subhas young friend and colleague, Shri Saugata Chandra Bose— Roy is one sentence which he read out from Chapter VIII. Khosla Commission “not as an equal at all, but, as a Report has something in praise for Prof. person, whom they could use for Guha but, the subsequent lines should not their own ends.” be quoted because Justice Khosla was not writing these lines out of regard for Prof. Was it very relevant ? Were we very Guha but that is a sense of disgust. He much concerned about it ? Do we not wanted to say that Prof. Guha, by using know what were the relations ? Do we good phrase in his favour, was a person to have something from Mr. Justice not to be taken seriously. Khosla Commis- DECEMBER 8, 1077 sion Report on 244 Netaji Bose (M) [Prof. Dilip Chakravarty] ^3T*T ft*T fa> far* IT^T T* 4^ Now, in his findings, he exceeds the % *ftnr * f f | 1 notification of the terms of reference and volunteers a statement about the first ^ f t ^TTcft ^ fa> % 5*^ Committee in para 21— the personnel of the Committee appointed by Nehru | fa^ft qft tft *mt * st, Government to inquire into Bose’s dis- s jit ^TT 3f, 'flHi appearance as an ample evidence of his bona fides. What sort of bona fides is it ? jPTT^ »T^ft 3ft T^t t fa7 I am not one of those who would, in season and out of season, show respect to any- 731% TT ^ ^Tf *HcT ft body of the Nehru family. Yes, the relationship between Nehru and Bose *T*f * ft, ^fa>* ^>t ^H i was very endearing. This, I am pre- f m I tT^T “Thakur Ghare Ke— 3rr?TT t 1 *nr^r ^r^t Tt f*?ft fa> ft tn rr Ami kala Khai na ” 3 Who is there inside the room of the l^wtsTJ gi(| if ^ the D iety. ^ ^ fa> *Tft 1 *rr*t fcfrs Promptly came the answer— I am not if ^FTT 3R$ consuming plantains. This is the literal translation of the saying. Naturally, it fam^fanr^ft 13ft % if is something in the nature of Mr. Justice n?i«ai 1 ^>ft ^T^f?nr fara firm, Khosla to volunteer certain things in the course of the findings in the Commission ^ f t " This is the reason why it creates an f.^rm faw eTCR 3tt Tfr «tt With these words, I conclude. ^ t ’Mii^l % *T** ^Ft ^1 •s 1 ^ t | «r I TcTT * ft, ^ f ' sft rrfTfri *r«r famO :(m'w i 3r): %crr3ft sft* % ^ * *TRT«r% H3TFT *g* *mJTT"T | I f t * *T * f t I^ rft I 1920 aft sjsrrq' ^ * t* ^5t ijrJT fste*T % if ? ft* 'Pi%3T *rat3 ft d ^ f fa> % if ^n-Hp^ |tr | * f f 1 fr, i® % *i 1? *3T ^ fsravt dc+l- f e n w , 5* wt*t 5 ft* 5far*ff *TRfTT, *ftT ^t 3fH W3T fa*T **T I u+ ^rrt vn^iN^t 'ji«i 1928 if ^PPrTT || «ft wk *^T TT fRTRt «IH ^< Tk *?t f a s t i | far *ff ? % ^ * ^ T 3 * t % I ^T«PRT*T^^*% | |?ftwf ? ?ft if TT f*^T *11 I 245 Khosla Commis- AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 (SAKA) sion Report on 246 Netaji Bose (Af) WFT «ft r ^ M «ft nfr«T *m fiiwirt : t t VRTRt % frPT ? ^ ^ «PTO *1*4+1 ^T^RT % ’ ft +)lf«(d ffcIT | 5PT % A' WTO JTft %^T ’STT^rTT f I f a spt f ^ f t e % § 5j?r q r if ^ t t 3fr ?nfra> ^ ? n f a r ^ r sTFtsfRt «ft, ?ft % q^% f?^rr% % a«ih ft*rr 1 ft ^ faww firoft, ^ *TfT^ «r fa ftTTCt rTRta ifr TTFft r<^4 ^t «tld) fiT ftp? ^?t ^** ?sf5PT ^ if^t ^T 3!^T -ilf^l> % vm fT^r t?t «tt i wf faTOT^T#f^'tzftr^Hk t ? n ^ ; % sqt^sr sfh; ?rr% fen'i *Rf 5 F R 5Tft t , rfr f a r jf I fR T ^ ?t 31^ ^»T ^T Hd Offl f*tH 1, rft wr^pff % Un <110*) ^t f*t>Mi Wf WT'if’T % * R * T ft *1% I Hfad iftT fjpT «(Idl «Ft d ^T 5FT ZTf eft r^I TTTOTT^T 5TT [«ft Trfarrr fanft] w r f ^ t t | ff^- ^ t ^ ^ ^R*T % ffTff% * rf V f f a ^ % *!Mi far if dl^TH t jrr ^1f ?ftr ?rft | ?ft ^ ^ TT^TPRt ^ cT^t ir ^ft fffft IT^T ?ff % farr Ih 1945 gOT, 1944 *T g*TT Sff SHRI NARENDRA P. NATHWANI ^nr^t ^ i sfr (Junagadh) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, I rise to support the hon. Members from both sides % ^ft*T ^ Ih 1 of the House who have demanded a fresh enquiry, a further investigation into the cir- eft Wt ^ ? TcT^TT ^TT JsR’ % cumstances leading to the disappearance of Netaji. As an ex-judge,I do not easily ?ftr ^ 3TTT °FT ^T $r persuade myself to comment or to criticise, ^TT% Ncfcv if they were missing why he did not concerned. With these words, I support try to find them out; why they could not be the demand made by Members for a fresh traced? He did nothing If some enquiry. papers were lost or destroyed, why did he not enquire and find out whether copies could be available or not. SHRI S. K. SARKAR : On a point of information, I went to Taiwan in the Again there is reference to urther files year 1975 during the month of December. containing some secret report of the British I was a guest of the Government there. I and American services. Look at his volume asked the Vice-Minister of Foreign Affairs of evidence and how Mr. justice Khosla about this and he in his reply told ‘if your de2lt with it. I do not know whether it Government requests, we will officially was deliberate but it was a failure and it deal with the matter and supply necessary appears to be deliberate. Because an ex- information*. | judge of his eminence could have easily seen the impact and weight which those docu- ments could have carried; he ignored them; SHRI BEDABRATA BARUA he discarded them. (Kaliabor) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, it is good that this House He goes to that p’ace, no doubt, to the has set apart a few hours of its time to dis- scenc where it— aircrash— is alleged to have cuss the matter concerning a great figure taken place; he goes to a foreign country. of India during this century. Netaji What does he do there? He says: my had been not only a political leader, but instructions do not permit me to contact he was a leader both in the field of action as either the government or any nonrofficial well as in the field of thought. He was organisation. What did he do? It has revolutionary, who was the type who would been pointed out that there was exchange not confine his revolution to a table-talk of correspondence between the then Prime but one who was prepared to go to any Minister and Chiang Kei Shek and there extreme at the risk of everything, including was investigation instituted by the Taiwan his life to fulfil his ideals. T h isgreatson government. Even when Mr. Guha tried was branded by his enemies, mainly the to drw his attention to the weather reports imperialists and others, ideology and other material which were available was questioned. But he has with the meteorological officers, he said : survived very much in the minds of the “ my instructions do not permit me to do so” . people of India. He was branded a facist, puppet and so many other things. But the people knew and had never in the In fairness, he should have at least conviction that Netaji was one of the written in his report that he was given such fundamental revolutionists so far as free- instructions What I am trying to point dom struggle is concerned and what he out is this, it is not a question of scrapping the report, but scrapping the finding which wanted to do. History will ultimately give its verdict as to whether it would have has been made. In fact, whether such a thing— accident— happened there or not is been better for us to go to a revolution of not material for evaluating the report, the type he professed, which unfortunately he could not carry out. History will cer- but whether having regard to the way and tainly remember the great contribution the manner in which he conducted the en- that he made to the freedom struggle quiry, whether his finding could be accep- and in the final surrender of power by the ted— that is material. It is worthless and British to India. Now, this matter about rubbish. I submit this to you with respect. fresh enquiry has been raised before the House several times and it is almost the There are cogent circumstances, facts unanimous opinion of the House that a which have been brought out by Prof. fresh enquiry should be ordered. There Guha, which show that this finding is are certain loose ends in the Report, even vitiated. Apart from that, his demand is> if we give credit to Mr Justice Khosla reinforced by further consideration viz- for what he said, which I personally would afterwards important documents have come not like to give. But this matter has to be to Ughc. Reference has been made to the reviewed and gone into again in the volume 6 of Transfer of Power,” to the interest of finding out the facts, the truth note prepared by the then Home Minister about one of the greatest sons of India. and how the mighty British Government When Prof. Guha raised this matter on also at the material time felt with the help the floor of this House, Mr. Chavan was of reports, intelligence reports— secret Home Minister. Ultimately, we sat up- reports of at least three teams of workers— stairs in a committee room and we discuss- of officers— that it was doubtful whether ed this matter. Irrespective of party affilia- this version that is now sought out was tion. we all agreed that there should be correct or not. Therefore, there is no an enquiry into this. That is how in 1970 doubt whatsover that this report has no this Khosla Commission was appointed. value. One can easily ignore it and one The report came in 1974. This report has can treat it as rubbish so far as the finding is obviously not satisfied many members. Khosla Commis- DECEMBER 8, 1977 sion Report on Netaji Bose (M) [Shri Bedabrata Barua] get confirmed from them as to whether thost documents are available and if they are available, whether they are I would not like to go into details, which prepared to give them to have an inquiry many members have given. Prof. Guha has conducted by the Government of India. collected an enormous amount of evidence I hope the Home Minister will look into all these matters and declare here on his own and I think there is a good caie and now that a fresh Commission of for going into this evidence and finding Inquiry will be instituted to go into all the facts and all the points and all out if this could lead to certain discoveries. the documents that have been referred Netaji being dead or alive is very important to. The Government should be able to for us because he was a great national get all those points verified and placed before the country the actual facts about leader. If he is dead, we should be in a the disappearance of Netaji whose memory position to say finally that he is no more if he is dead, or about reverence for whom no one could differ in spite of the differences and do something in a great way to that were raised at that point of time is keep his memory, which we have not beeo cherished, he being one of the greatest able to do. In fact, the very argument leaders in our national life. The least that the Government could do is to accept that we do not know whether he is dead or the unanimous opinion of the House alive could be a very good alibi for not for a fresh inquiry into the disappearance of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose. erecting a suitable memorial for this great son of India. So, it has to be finally settl- PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR (Gan- ed. Even if the plane crash theory proves dhinagar) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, I must to be misleading, even then there could be be honest at the outset and say that this discussion which my friend, Prof. Samar a proposition that he may not be any Guha, has sought to raise may perhaps longer alive. It is a bit difficult to believe sound in more than one sense somewhat that any body would be keeping him in odd and peculiar, but more than that prison for 32 years and not doing away I think this discussion is poignant and with him and not letting the world know also perturbing— poignant because of the about it. I do not think such a proposi- fact that a great son of India, his life tion could be substantiated. If any body was and record of his bravery, and his mission interested in keeping him in prison for 32 have been dealt with in such a clumsy years, he should have had a vested interest and strange manner by the Government in doing away with him. Therefore, all of of India of the past, and perturbing us from all sides of the House are interested because we are dealing with a sacred in finding out the real facts about his individual and a sacred living institution, disappearance. This has to be found out I would say, in a manner which does and the whole nation must agree to abide not do any good to either those who were by the finding. We must put him on a before us and those who are now in eharge high pedestal as one of the national leaders of the Government. alongwith Gandhiji and Nehru. If there has to be a fresh enquiry, it should be held The discussion began on August 3, as early as possible. Already so many years and is now continuing today. The have passed. People who w ould be able to main achievement, if I put it that way, give evidence most of them at least— of my good friend, Shri Samar Guha, would have passed away and it is no longer and his dedicated and unending endea- possible to depend on any sort of personal vours are indeed commendable. The evidence. Even if the Japanese doctor or question is : Why all this discussion others who treated him were alive, they and why all this demand for a fresh might not know whom they were treating. inquiry ? I agree with many of my Therefore, this has to be decided entirely friends— perhaps my dear friend, Prof. on documentary evidence. These docu- Samar Guha may not agree with this ments should be traceable, and I think the particular point, but I agree with many Government of India should be in a friends that the important thing is not position to request those governments to to find out whether Netaji Bose as a human he)p,i n this. India’s relations are not person in body is alive or not, although had w ith any of those Governments. A t it is important. least the present government’s relation is certainly not bad; it is much better than SHRI SAMAR GUHA : I have never the previous government’s relations with said it. I those governments. So, the present Government should be able to approach these governments through diplomatic chan- PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR : But nels and ask them specific questions apart the important thing is that the person from the enquiry about these things and of Netaji’s eminence ought not to be 253 Khosla Commis - AGRAHAYANA 17, 1899 ( SAKA ) sion Report on 254 Netaji Bose (M) tre ated ■ in the > way the Government Mountbatten came into the scene, and through so-called fact finding missions studied how Lord Wavell as Viceroy and the so-called judicial inquiry co- behaved, what he did and did not do. mmissions is going about. That is the On page 164 of that book, Wavell's point of issue and equally or perhaps entry of August 24, 1945, couple of more important is yet another aspect. days after the supposed tragedy of August I mention it because some people may 1945* In that entry, Wavell writes— argue and some people have argued out- and I quote : side this august House, as to why should the Parliament of India discuss again “I wonder if the Japanese announce- and again this matter: is it not a kind of ment of Subhas Chandra Bose’s a dead issue ? Some argue. But it can death an air-crash is true. I suspect never be a dead issue. Finding out the it very much, it is just what would truth can never be a dead issue, especially be given out if he meant to go if the Government has chosen the motto: underground.” Satyamew Jay ate. Therefore, it is never too late to inquire afresh and find out Wavell, we knew very well, was an astute the truth. I may go one step further. politician, and one of the last imperialists I am glad the hon. Home Minister has who governed here as a Viceroy ; and com- back to the House to listen he was not prepared to believe that to this particular aspect which I want story. How could the later government to emphasise. The more important thing and Mr. Justice Khosla believe it, without is not whether Netaji Subhas Chandra proper and complete evidence ? Therefore, Bose is alive or not, but it is to tell the I feel that the Khosla report ought to world that Justice Khosla and his judicial be given the place it deserves. I will exercises have been far from judicial not use more words, and describe where and satisfactory. Those exorcises have it should go. not been in conformity with the highest principles of justice involved. And, there- Now, Sir, although I was very young,— fore, the least that this Janata Government as my friend from the D MK and also Dr. can do in this changed atmosphere is Karan Singh said—at that time, i.e. young to let the world know that whatever enough not to go to jail, I was not young else may be there, this air tragedy story enough not to see those days. Way back of August 18, 1945 is a complete non-sense, in 1938, in the Haripura Congress, is a total lie and is a fiction which nobody much against the wishes of Mahatma in his common-sense will ever believe, Gandhi, Netaji was elected Congress unless he wanted it to or was told to, President ; and ultimately Gandhiji paid believe it. Let us end this business of him a compliment and said that he was make-believes. Who is Mr. Justice Khosla a prince among patriots. I remember, as who is making us believe certain things a young boy going in 1938 to the Haripura which are contrary to any aspect of law, Congress held in Gujarat and seeing judiciary or common-sense or truth-find- Subhas Bose at close quarters repeatedly ing ? That is my point. and hearing him deliver the historic address as the President of the Indian National Congress. I also saw him being One hon. Member said that we should taken in procession with several bullock- scrap Mr. Khosla's report. The very carts, which was the tradition and order fact that Parliament is discussing it of the day for the Congress President’s at such a length is ample evidence to popular reception in those days. How show with what attention and treatment very dearly, how very respectfully, almost this House looks at Mr. Khosla’s report, with reverence in Gandhiji’s and Sardar or enquiries. We don't want this make- Patel’s Gujarat, Subhas Bose was worship believe business ; and the tragedy is ped in those days, I remember on this that if the mystery of Netaji’s disappearance occasion very well. I still remember his was great, the mystery of the Khosla beaming face, that radiant voice, his report is greater. I do not know how radical ideas ; they are almost vivid and in what manner he came to the before my mental eye when I think of conclusion to which he came ; viz . that those days. He was a jewel of a man, ubhas Bose died in that mysterious noble, brave patriotic, eternally youthful accident on 18 th August, 1945. with revolutionary qualities, a citizen of the world.l . Mr;. Chitta Basu referred to Lord , *ve*l» the Viceroy of India during Can such a man ever do things which days. I bought that book last year. would make people believe that he would Fhe title of that book is “A Viceroy's rather run away, or escape, or do some- Journal , edited by Penderel Moon. I thing which is not becoming of a selfless, as reading that book for a variety of noble patriot, a world citizen ? When **aons, including this reason : I was he went to Germany through North watching the proceedings of this House WTest Frontier Province, he took up the 945’46 until the time when Lord name of Ziauddin. He was given to this 255 Khosla Commis- DECEMBER 8, 1977 sion Report on 256 Netaji Bose (M) fProf P.G. Mavalankar] If we cannot find out the truth, let us at least not manufacture falsehoods ! kind of adventurous life, he was given to this kind of certain risk-taking, though SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA : not complete or fool-hardy risk ! He was How can you commit to it that it will a ture revolutionary in his daily life all be the final enquiry ? the time. That was Subhas Bose. Therefore, I believe that it is no use disrespecting his great name, a living name in the PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR : At history. Even when Subhas Bose was least for the time being let us put it alive, before independence came, he that way. If we cannot find out the truth, had become a legend and a hero in the let us not waste our time and energy history for the people of India. Much and spend our resources manufacturing more so now, when years have passed wrong things, manufacturing fictions. he is a legend in the eyes of so many That much we can avoid by being honest people. and true to the great name of Subhas Chandra Bose. Therefore, wedded as we are to truth, democracy and decency, Therefore, without repeating the points let all of us in this House, whether belonging made by Professor Samar Guha, I would to this party or that party or no party, agree with him that this is not a matter support this demand for a fresh enquiry. of emotion or sentiment. Netaji Subhash I am glad my friends from the Congress Chandra Bose is an epic hero and let Party have supported this demand, us deal with him like that. unlike last time when they did not support it. This is important. So far as the Khosla Commission Report is concerned, I am sure the Home Minister knows it— it is suspected— 18 hr s. how Justice Khosla wrote it, how many files he did not see— somebody pointed Finally, I want to pay my homage out that 35 files were missing— so, we to Subhas Bose, whom we call Netaji. also know Justice Khosla. I am not His famous slogan, apart from Jai Hind, given to personal abuse, but I am sorry was Chalo Delhi. Of course, in a very to find how Justicc Khosla came from different context, Delhi chalo has become Taiwan with a present to the Prime the pet phrase of many politicians. They Minister, the then Prime Minister. Can go to Delhi for different kinds of things. a Judge ever think of a present to a Prime But Subhash Chandra Bose was going Minister ? Can a Judge ever think of to Delhi in pre-independent India not entering the compound of a Minister ? to have anything, but to be in the van- It is bad. A judge must be above all such guard of a revolution. He never pushed considerations. He should not do it. himself to any position in the establishment; But he met the former Prime Minister, rather he was rushing to Delhi because former officials, many number of times he had the rare courage to be in the and then wrote out the report almost, vanguard to do things unparalleled, true as I said earlier, to make us all believe, only of a revolutionary. Therefore, we which it never can do. owe it to ourselves, history and posterity ta have a fresh enquiry and pay our r?!|nftful tribute to the living name I want to say in conclusion that the that Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose is. Janata Government must unearth all Let us also resolve to prove ourselves the records, the new files which have worthy sons and daughters of this great come to light and find out what truth and noble son of India. and facts are there. So, I support the demand for having a fresh and final enquiry. As Dr. Karan Singh, Shri Barua 18' 01 hrs. and Professor Guha have stated, let us have a fresh final enquiry, at least an The Lok Sabha adjourned till Eleven o f enquiry, which will say that the air the Clock on Friday the 9th December, 1977/ tragedy was a fiction. Ac/ahavana 18, 1899 (Saka). G M G IP M D — M —2912L.S.— 2-1-78 m %H ^ R R T 3ff fJTT^ HJTT ^ «Pt 5TTf % »ft ft? TO«3T «tt I 3ft iT f «M3T^ | fa ^TRt f 3T^|rftt(ft ffft fTFT ^HTT TOtfa faT «*tt nf : ^crr^ft $f*Rt fafrnr w t chtt; ^rrw srk a F*ft ^t % Pi) ^ « T 5fTT TOT 5TtT W V T O ^ R t ” ... srrrot w % ftftr fro^?r ft^T ^rff^ i 247 ' Khosla Commis- DECEMBER 8, 1977 sion Report on 248 Netaji Bose (M)