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Third Session - Fortieth Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable Daryl Reid Speaker Vol. LXVI No. 11B - 1:30 p.m., Tuesday, November 26, 2013 ISSN 0542-5492 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Fortieth Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation ALLAN, Nancy St. Vital NDP ALLUM, James, Hon. Fort Garry-Riverview NDP ALTEMEYER, Rob Wolseley NDP ASHTON, Steve, Hon. Thompson NDP BJORNSON, Peter, Hon. Gimli NDP BLADY, Sharon, Hon. Kirkfield Park NDP BRAUN, Erna, Hon. Rossmere NDP BRIESE, Stuart Agassiz PC CALDWELL, Drew Brandon East NDP CHIEF, Kevin, Hon. Point Douglas NDP CHOMIAK, Dave, Hon. Kildonan NDP CROTHERS, Deanne St. James NDP CULLEN, Cliff Spruce Woods PC DEWAR, Gregory Selkirk NDP DRIEDGER, Myrna Charleswood PC EICHLER, Ralph Lakeside PC EWASKO, Wayne Lac du Bonnet PC FRIESEN, Cameron Morden-Winkler PC GAUDREAU, Dave St. Norbert NDP GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Liberal GOERTZEN, Kelvin Steinbach PC GRAYDON, Cliff Emerson PC HELWER, Reg Brandon West PC HOWARD, Jennifer, Hon. Fort Rouge NDP IRVIN-ROSS, Kerri, Hon. Fort Richmond NDP JHA, Bidhu Radisson NDP KOSTYSHYN, Ron, Hon. Swan River NDP LEMIEUX, Ron, Hon. Dawson Trail NDP MACKINTOSH, Gord, Hon. St. Johns NDP MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood NDP MARCELINO, Flor, Hon. Logan NDP MARCELINO, Ted Tyndall Park NDP MELNICK, Christine Riel NDP MITCHELSON, Bonnie River East PC NEVAKSHONOFF, Tom Interlake NDP OSWALD, Theresa, Hon. Seine River NDP PALLISTER, Brian Fort Whyte PC PEDERSEN, Blaine Midland PC PETTERSEN, Clarence Flin Flon NDP REID, Daryl, Hon. Transcona NDP ROBINSON, Eric, Hon. Kewatinook NDP RONDEAU, Jim Assiniboia NDP ROWAT, Leanne Riding Mountain PC SARAN, Mohinder The Maples NDP SCHULER, Ron St. Paul PC SELBY, Erin, Hon. Southdale NDP SELINGER, Greg, Hon. St. Boniface NDP SMOOK, Dennis La Verendrye PC STEFANSON, Heather Tuxedo PC STRUTHERS, Stan, Hon. Dauphin NDP SWAN, Andrew, Hon. Minto NDP WHITEHEAD, Frank The Pas NDP WIEBE, Matt Concordia NDP WIGHT, Melanie Burrows NDP WISHART, Ian Portage la Prairie PC Vacant Arthur-Virden Vacant Morris 371 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Tuesday, November 26, 2013 The House met at 1:30 p.m. Any further introduction of bills? Mr. Speaker: Good afternoon, everyone. Please be PETITIONS seated. Mr. Speaker: Seeing none, we'll move on to ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS petitions. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS Provincial Sales Tax Increase–Referendum Bill 23–The Cooperative Housing Strategy Act Mr. Ralph Eichler (Lakeside): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly of Hon. Peter Bjornson (Minister of Housing and Manitoba. Community Development): I move, seconded by the Minister of Conservation and Water Stewardship These are the reasons for this petition: (Mr. Mackintosh), that Bill 23, The Cooperative (1) The provincial government promised not to Housing Strategy Act; Loi sur la stratégie en matière raise taxes in the last election. d'habitation coopérative, now be read a first time. (2) Through Bill 20, the provincial government Motion presented. wants to increase the retail sales tax, known as the Mr. Bjornson: I'm pleased to introduce this PST, by one point without the legally required bill today. It will require the minister to develop a referendum. co-operative housing strategy and review it at least (3) An increase to the PST is excessive taxation every five years. And the minister will be also that will harm Manitoba families. required to consult when developing and reviewing the strategy and must report annually on the progress (4) Bill 20 strips Manitobans of their democratic made and the activities undertaken in relation to the right to determine when major tax increases are implementation of that strategy. necessary. Mr. Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt We petition the Legislative Assembly of the motion? [Agreed] Manitoba as follows: To urge the provincial government to not raise Any further introduction of bills? the PST without holding a provincial referendum. Bill 207–The Settlement of International This petition's submitted on behalf of D. Fewiuk, Investment Disputes Act C. Fulsher, G. Fotty and many other fine Mr. Reg Helwer (Brandon West): I move, Manitobans. seconded by the member from Lac du Bonnet, that Mr. Speaker: In keeping with our rule 132(6), when Bill 207, The Settlement of International Investment petitions are read they are deemed to have been Disputes Act; Loi sur le règlement des différends received by the House. internationaux relatifs aux investissements, be now read for a first time. Further petitions? Motion presented. Provincial Sales Tax Increase– Cross-Border Shopping Mr. Helwer: This bill will allow Manitoba to recognize and ratify this act so that Canada can move Mr. Cliff Graydon (Emerson): Good afternoon, on forward in ratifying the act to become a part of it. Mr. Speaker. I wish to present the following petition It has been in use by citizens of Canada for to the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba. international disputes, and I highly recommend that And these are the reasons for this petition: Manitoba move forward and be part of the world. (1) Manitoba has a thriving and competitive Mr. Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt retail environment in communities near its borders, the motion? [Agreed] including Bowsman, Swan River, Minitonas, Benito, 372 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA November 26, 2013 Russell, Binscarth, St-Lazare, Birtle, Elkhorn, These office closures unnecessarily increase the Virden, Melita, Waskada, Boissevain, Deloraine, financial cost and time commitment required by Cartwright, Pilot Mound, Crystal City, Manitou, citizens to access government services that were Morden, Winkler, Plum Coulee, Altona, Gretna, previously offered in their communities. Emerson, Morris, Killarney, Sprague, Vita, Reston, Pierson, Miniota, McAuley, St. Malo, Foxwarren, Manitobans have a right to access provincial Roblin and many others. programs and services in a timely manner within a reasonable distance from their community regardless (2) Both the Saskatchewan PST rate and the of their location. North Dakota retail sales tax rate are 5 per cent and the Minnesota retail sales tax rate is 6 per cent. We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows: (3) The retail sales tax rate is 40 per cent cheaper in North Dakota and Saskatchewan and 25 per cent To urge that the provincial government restore cheaper in Minnesota as compared to Manitoba. the services provided to the affected communities (4) The differential in tax rates creates a until the provincial government conducts public disincentive for Manitoba consumers to shop locally consultations and provides an alternative solution to purchase their goods and services. that maintains or increases the level of service provided in the local area. We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows: This petition is signed by C. Waddell, E. Mandziuk, K. Jackman-Atkinson and many, many (1) To acknowledge that the increase in the PST other fine Manitobans. will significantly encourage cross-border shopping and put additional strain on the retail sector, Hydro Capital Development–NFAT Review especially for those businesses located close to Mr. Cliff Cullen (Spruce Woods): Mr. Speaker, I Manitoba provincial borders. wish to present the following petition to the And (2) to urge the provincial government to Legislative Assembly. reverse its PST increase to ensure Manitoba consumers can shop affordably in Manitoba and These are the reasons for this petition: support local businesses. (1) Manitoba Hydro was mandated by the And this petition is signed by B. Neufeld, provincial government to commence a $21-billion C. Hébert-Lafantaisie and M. Waddle and many, capital development plan to service uncertain many more fine Manitobans. electricity export markets. Government Services Offices Closures– (2) In the last five years, competition from Public Consultations alternative energy sources is decreasing the price and Mr. Stuart Briese (Agassiz): Mr. Speaker, I wish to demand for Manitoba's hydroelectricity and causing present the following petition to the Legislative the financial viability of this capital plan to be Assembly of Manitoba. questioned. And this is the background for this petition: (3) The $21-billion capital plan requires Manitoba Hydro to increase domestic electricity Since April 1, 2012, the provincial government rates by up to 4 per cent annually for the next has closed at least 20 government services offices in 20 years and possibly more if export opportunities communities throughout Manitoba. fail to materialize. The closures of these offices create job losses and reduce economic activity within the community We petition the Legislative Assembly of and decrease the accessibility and quality of services Manitoba as follows: for local citizens. To urge that the Minister responsible for The provincial government did not consult Manitoba Hydro create a complete and transparent with communities impacted by these office closures needs-for-and-alternatives-to review of Manitoba before deciding to close, merge or consolidate the Hydro's total capital development plan to ensure the offices. financial viability of Manitoba Hydro. November 26, 2013 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 373 This petition is signed by K. DeBaets, to dissociate himself from the comments made by W. Jefferies, D. Denning and many other fine the recently elected Member of Parliament for Manitobans. Provencher,