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Queensland Parliamentary Debates [Hansard] Legislative Assembly THURSDAY, 8 DECEMBER 1932 Electronic reproduction of original hardcopy Questions. [8 DECEMBER.] Questions. 2065 being paid out of the' unemployment relief fund. "2. Not within the meaning of repro ductive, as applied to loan moneys, but does the hon. member assert that the granting of some little assistance to the unemployed in distress during the Christmas period is not reproductive to the community? " SUGGESTED REDUCTION OF PENALTY FOR LAT!O PAYMENT OF CROWN RENTS. Mr. BRAND (Isis), for Mr. EDWARDS (~Yan.ango), asked the Secretary for Public Lands- " In view of the general and substan tial fall in interest rates and the reduc tion under the Local Authorities Bill of the maximum discount allowable by local authorities from 8 to 5 per cent., will he give favourable consideration to the reduction to a proportionate extent of the 10 per cent. penalty imposed for late payment of Crown rentals ?" The SECRETARY FOR PUBLIC LANDS (Hon. P. Pease, Herbert) replied- " In order to protect Crown revenues and to discourage deliberate default in payment of rents, it" is essential that a penalty be imposed which is substantially higher than the bank rate of interest. The statqtory penalty of 10 per cent. per annum on overdue Crown rents has been in force for many yearq, but in practice each case is dealt with by the present Government on its merits, the penalties being either reduced to 5 per cent. or entirely remitted in deserving cases." THURSDAY, 8 DECEMBER, 1932. SUGGESTED REDUCTION OF PENALTY FOR OVER DUE pAYMENTS TO AGRICULTURAL BANK. Mr. SPEAKER (Hon. G. Pollock, Gregory) Mr. BRAND (Isis), for Mr. EDWARDS took the chair at 10.30 a.m. (cYa,nango), asked the Secretary for Agricul ture- " In view of the general and substan QUESTIONS. tial fall in interest rates and the reduc SOURCE OF PAYMENT FOR CHRISTMAS ASSIST· tion under the Local Authorities Bill of ANCE TO RELIEF WORKERS. the maximum discount allowable by local authorities from 8 to 5 per cent., will he Mr. MAXWELL (Toowo'ng) asked the give favourable consideration to the Secretary for Labour and Industry- reduction to a proportionate extent of " 1. As the unemployment relief fund, the penalty imposed in respect of over according to the latest available figures, due amounts payable to the Agricultural appears to be insolvent, and as this fund Bank?" is estimated to be insolvent at the end of the financial year, will the proposed The SECRETARY FOR AGRICULTURE Christmas present for relief workers be (Hon. F. W. Bulcock, Barcoo) replied- paid out of the Loan Fund? '~ The hon. member refers to 'a reduc " 2. Is this one of the reproductive tion unde1· the Local Authorities Bill of purposes for which the special relief the maximum discount allowable by local loan, subscriptions t.o w~~ch closed on authorities from 8 to 5 per cent.,' but Monday last, was raised? presumably he means the maximum rate of interest chargeable by way of penalty The SECRETARY FOR LABOUR AND in respect of overdue rates. Assqming INDUSTRY (Hon. M. P. Hynes, Towns the latter to be the case, I would point ville) replied- out that penalty interest charged by "1. When the present Government took local authorities on unpaid rates is not office the unemployment relief fund was comparable with the penalty charged insol~ent with an overdraft of £108,500, under the Agricultural Bank Acts in and a l~gacy of serious unemploym_ent respect of outstanding dues for the fol which this Government had to deal with. lowing reasons :- I have already stated publicly that the . 1. The bank penalty is a charge Government 'lxpects to maintain relief 1mposed for th'e late payment of cer operations during t~e financial :year, and tain dues in respect of moneys actually to finish the. year wrth a mttch Improved advanced by the Government from loan financial position in its relief fund. The funds and upon which interest is beino Christmas assistance to relief workers is paid by the Treasqry until such money'; 2066 I rulusirial Oonoiliation [ASSEMBLY.] and .Arbitration Bill. are repaid. The charge by the local fore, it did not contain that measure of authority is a penalty for the late pay sympathy to the workers which might bo ment of rates, which is mainly a tax expected. imposed to meet the cost of local This Bill cannot be regarded as the final government. goal of the trade union movement, but it 2. The local authority charge is a certainly is a step in the right direction. I continuing penalty at the rate of 5 per have no doubt that, when its many clauses cent. per annum, whereas the bank's are put into effect, a better state of affairs penalty is not a progressive charge will be brought about, and unions will be but ceases when the maximt!ID figure able to function without suffering those of 1s. in the £1 is reached. harassing restrictions of which the Leader I might add that when the present Agri of the Opposition and his followerE> speak cultural Bank Act was passed in 1923, so frequently. the law, as regards penalty, was liberal The Bill provides amongst other things ised to the extent of extending the 6d. for the re-enactment .of the preference to in the £1 rate for a further thirty days, unionists clause, the introduction of a 44-hour making sixty ·days in all, whereas under week, the giving of access to the Industrial the previous Act a rate of 9d. in the Court to Government employees, and provi £1 was charged from the thirty-first to sion for greater facilities fer union officials the sixtieth day. In enacting the penalty and officials of the Department of Labour provision in the original Act, and in and Industry to prosecute unscrupulous maintaining it in all subsequent legisla exploiters of human labour, who at all times tion, the Parliament of the day was evi are ready to prey upon the worker. dently of opinion that sqch a provision There can be no argument advanced would act both as an incentive to bor against the granting of preference to rowers to pay promptly and as a deter unionists. The unions exist for the advance rent to those who might otherwise be ment and improvement of the conditions of inclined to view their obligations to the their members, and are ever on the alert to bank lightly. The experience gained by improve the lot of the workers and make the bank during the intervening years it better than it was previously. It is all amply confirms the wisdom and justice very well to talk about the tyranny of the of such a decision, and the· Government subject, interference with human liberty, does not, therefore, intend to make any and to say that an individual should be alteration in regard to the Agricultural permitted to do what he likes; but this Bank per;alty charges at the present striking fact has been very evident-that the time." particular section of the working class who oppose the introduction of preference to COliSTRCOTION OF RAILWAY FROJ'II CAMOOWEAL unionists can always be· found claiming every TO EROMANGA. improvement that a union can secure in HoN. W. H. BARNES (Wynnu,m), for industry. After all, that is the main thing Mr. G. P. BARJ\l'ES (War·wick), asked the that concerns the Labour movement. We Premier- claim that if a union, through its. fighting ~trength, can improve the lot of those for " In connection with the proposal by a whom it is constituted, there can be no argu British company to the Commonwealth ment against giving that union the right Government to construct a railway from to enrol the whole of the employees in the Port Darwin to Bourke, will he keep· in industry. If a worker does not desire to touch with this .matter with the object, join up with a union, he should not accept if the project ohould be adopted, of mak the conditions which they offer. Mr. G. ing every endeavour to secure the con Howell, M.P., an eminent authority, in hi& struction of the line through Queensland book on "Unionism," discusses the position along the existing surveyed route from of the non-unionist in these words- Camooweal to Eromanga ?" " Looked at from its purely social 'rhe PREMIER (Hon. W. Forgan Smith, aspects, much can be urged in favour of Mackay) replied_:__ the utmost pressure being applied to " The Government is making inquiries induce workmen to belong to the union. into the· nature of the proposal, and will Those who persistently remain outside take any necessary steps to safeguard neglect an obvious duty-the duty of the interests of this State." manfully doing their part to keep up the current rates of wages and maintain a maximum working day. Non-unionists INDUSTRIAL CONCILIATION AND are always ready to take advantage of the fruits of others' labours; they ought ARBITRATION BILL. to partake of some share in sowing the SECOND READING-RESUJ\!PTION OF DEBATE. seed, tilling the ground, and promoting Mr. WATERS (Kelvin Grove) [10.34 a.m.]: the growth and maturity of the harvest, I welcome the Bill, because it is designed to as well as reaping it and gathering it in. correct a number of anomalies, that were But this is not all that can be laid to brought about by the passage of the Act of their charge; they hang on the out 1929. We are all aware that that measure skirts of the union as a .drag, and in was sponsored by the Employers' Federation, times of dispute they go in to take the the Graziers' Association, and the other places of men who are fighting, not for wealthy eo-operations that support the themselves only, but for the whole trade.