Learn English with Anthony Cumia Speaker 1: Welcome to the Effortless English Show, with the world's number one English teacher, AJ Hoge, where AJ's more than 40 million students worldwide finally learn English once and for all. Without the boring textbooks, classrooms and grammar drills. Here's AJ with a quick piece to help you learn to speak fluent English effortlessly. AJ Hoge: AJ Hoge, effortlessenglishclub.com. The war. The war for free speech continues. Today in the Effortless English show, we have a discussion, a conversation between Anthony Cumia and Gavin McInnis. Our old friend, Gavin. Gavin, you may remember, he host his own show on Rebel Media. He currently has a show on Rebel Media, a YouTube channel. Anthony Cumia, Cumia I believe is how you pronounce it, is a radio host. He used to be on a very, very big radio show out of New York City. It was called, "Opie and Anthony." Huge show. Very, very big. Then Cumia got fired. He got fired because of tweeting. Now, this guy's a comedian and so I don't know, he tweeted between some transgender person, I think. It was some transvestite, some man pretending to be a woman. This transvestite sent him a tweet insulting him or joking. He's a comedian, so he came back and insulted the transvestite guy, and they went back and forth. Then he lost his job, because of this. It's like a whole campaign started that said he was hateful, and evil, transphobic, that means you're afraid of trans people and you're hateful and not see. All these stuff that we've talked about this week really and some previous shows, well it all happened to him. He goes on to a show with Gavin McInnis, Gavin interviews him about what happened. They discussed free speech in America, the war for free speech that's happening now. They talk about how this isn't just about Twitter that the left, the Marxist groups are threatening people. They're sending death threats to people. They are finding people's address that they don't like, like Gavin's or Anthony Cumia's. They are posting the address on social media and encouraging people to go there and attack them. Twitter lets them do this. Twitter lets leftist do this, but Twitter bans people on the right or libertarians, or classic liberals for much, much less. These big companies are clearly siding with helping these Marxist mobs. It makes you wonder why, right? What's happening. Why are these huge billion dollar companies supporting this? It's because they want to shutdown free speech. They want to close down free speech. They don't want to be criticized. They don't want people to wake up to what all the billionaires are doing to us. These mobs, these leftist mobs are very useful for them. All right. Let's actually go to the first part of the interview. I'm going to play a little part and I'll come back and explain it in its finest spot. Here we go. Right there. Yeah, good. Got it. Anthony Cumia: Yeah. Page 1 of 11 Learn English with Anthony Cumia Gavin McInnes: I don't count that, because this is a mob. It's just like the muff. Anthony Cumia: Yes. Gavin McInnes: This screaming mob of hysterical people going into your work, tweeting your clients, fucking attacking on the street, putting a ... I had a bunch of trainees put up my home address with "Happy Hunting." Anthony Cumia: Really? Gavin McInnes: Yeah and talking about my kids and shit. That's not the free market. That's not people I opted. Anthony Cumia: That's the mob. Gavin McInnes: I have the freedom to opt to kill your family. Anthony Cumia: There you go. Gavin McInnes: It's my choice. Anthony Cumia: Your speech has consequences. Really? Death to my family is the consequence? That's the new thing that people really do pull out with freedom of speech. You got the freedom of speech, but there are consequences. It's like first of all or here's another one, well, you have freedom of speech, but the government isn't stopping you from doing something. Gavin McInnes: Oh, that's a big one. Anthony Cumia: It's a business and they run their business. It's like, okay if there's a threat looming over you of losing everything you worked your life for, if you say a certain thing, that's not freedom of speech anymore. Gavin McInnes: Yes. Anthony Cumia: You're infringing on the freedom of speech through coercion, threats. Then taking a step further, yes, death. Violence to your family, that is consequence for freedom of speech? It's like the Salem witch trials. AJ Hoge: Okay, first part. Okay, so Gavin says that these are mobs. These leftist attacks of free speech, they're mobs. A mob, M-O-B, that has two meanings really. They use both meanings here in this conversation. They're using both at the same time. One meaning of mob, it's slang, is mafia, right? Mafia, like the old Italian mafia from the movies, the godfather. Organized crime, the mob. The more general meaning of that word "Mob" is just an angry group of people out of control. Angry and violent group of people. Page 2 of 11 Learn English with Anthony Cumia You can get mobs of people and they just will attack, because they just go, they get crazy and then they all get each other more and more crazy, and then they become violent. That's also a mob. They're saying it's both. It's like these people are both organized crime and also they are just like as wild uncontrolled violent group. They're talking about how these people they will make an excuse, these people in these mobs that are attacking. They'll make an excuse that, well, you can say your free speech, but free speech has consequences. It means you're free to say something, but if people don't like it, then you have to accept what happens next. Anthony Cumia and Gavin both laugh about this saying this isn't free speech. If the consequence is that you lose your job and you lose your business and they attack your customers or other people at your job, and they harass and attack your family, and they threaten violence, and now they're even doing violence for starting to see this happening that are actually attacking people with pepper spray and sticks, and punching them, and kicking them. That's not free speech. They're using coercion, coercion means force. They're infringing on free speech. To infringe means to limit or stop. These are crazed mobs of leftist. You see Hollywood, all these Hollywood celebrities are encouraging this. It's frightening. They are using the mobs to try to silence people. They're trying to silence anyone they disagree with. That's what's really scary and so they call everybody a "Fascist, a sexist, hateful." They just use these words and then they attack. They'll try to find your address, try to harass. Like they said, their children had been harassed and threatened. That's what's happening in America now. It's this crazy leftist doing it and they attack anybody that criticizes them or disagrees with them, or won't go along with their crazy ideas. Very frightening. Let's go ahead a little more and listen to another section. Then I'll talk more. Let me just find the section here. It's right there. Okay, here we go. Next part. Anthony Cumia, Gavin McInnis. Anthony Cumia: Anything, women's rights. All of a sudden, if you have an opposing viewpoint to the bullshit, whatever is being put out there, it gets escalated to not just, "He has an opposing viewpoint. I wonder what his take is on this. Is he a racist or does he just have an opposing viewpoint? It goes instantly to Hitler. Gavin McInnes: Yes, Hitler. Anthony Cumia: You talked about Israel and you weren't as sympathetic as Hitler. Gavin McInnes: It is fascist ironically. This for me, it's every part of modern culture like your wife will complain to her friend, "My husband was drunk last night. He pees to bed." Divorce. You're like, "Whoa." You see some rally and they're pro-Israel and someone goes, "Fuck you and spits them." Police. You never see, debate him. Page 3 of 11 Learn English with Anthony Cumia Anthony Cumia: Yes. I demand a debate. Gavin McInnes: That word is dead by the way. Anthony Cumia: It is dead, totally dead. Like I said, if you're in a debate and someone starts losing, that's it. You're labeled something and now you're that. Your point can't be valid, you're a racist. Gavin McInnes: Yes. Anthony Cumia: We're debating race. Blah, blah, blah. Somebody goes, "Uh-oh, I'm getting ..." "Racist. I'm not even going to listen to you anymore. You're a racist." Gavin McInnes: Then they say things like, "I can't even." Anthony Cumia: Yeah. Gavin McInnes: Especially about the millennials, because they're so fucking [inaudible 00:11:13]. AJ Hoge: Okay, let's talk about this section now. Going back and they're saying the problem is that now, with these people, they're talking about the leftist Marxist groups, that they don't accept an opposing viewpoint.