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No. *?. Thwsdax, March, 22, 1^73JChaitra 1, 1895 (Saka)

Oral Answers to questions:

♦Starred Questions Nos 421 to 423, 425 to 427, 429 and 432 1-31

■Written Answers to Questions •

Starred Questions Nos. 424, 428,430 431 and 433 to 440 31-41

Unstarred Questions Nos. 4156 to 4166, 4168,4169, 4171, to 4175, 4177 to 4190, 4192 to 4267,4269 to 4277, 4279 to 4287, 4289 to 4320 and 4322 to 4327 42-166

Calling Attention to Matter of urgent Public Importance Reported death of a nursing officer and serious injury to another due to alleged assault and molestation in a Mini Bus in Delhi .... 167-184

Papers Laid on the T a b i c ...... 184-186

Estimates Committee :

Thirty-third Report ...... 186

Committee on Absence of Members from sittings of the House Ninth R e p o r t ...... 186

Statement Re. Guru Gobind Singh Medical College, Faridabad 187-190 Shri R. K. Khadilkar ...... 187-189

Re. Milo imported from U S A ...... 191-192

Re. Arrest of Demonstrators at C handigarh...... 193

Andhra Pradesh Budget, 1973- 74—General Discussion, Demands for Grants on Account, 1973- 74, and Supplementary Demands for Grants, I972“73 193-297

Shri Samar Mukherjee .... 216-222

Shri PVG Raju . . . 222-226

Shri Bhogendra Jha . 226-231

Shri K. Ramakrishna Reddy . . . 231-235

Shri G. Viswanathan .... 235-241 "The Sign-f marked above the name of a Member indicates that the ques­ tion was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. 3983 LS— 1 m Columns Shri P. Venkatasubbaiah...... 241-246 Shri Jagannathrao J o s h i ...... 247-252 Shti K. Surayanarayana...... • 252-257 ShriPiloo Mody ...... 257-261 Shri M. Ram Gopal Reddy ...... 261-266 Shri M. S. Sanjeevi R a o ...... 266-269 Prof. Madhu Dandavate...... 269-273 Shri T. Balakrishnaiah ...... 273-276 Shri M. Satyanara>ana Rao ...... 276 282 Shrimati T. Lakshmikanthamma...... 282-287 Shri K. N a ra ya n a R a o...... 287-290 Shri K. R. G a n e s h ...... 290-295

Andhra Pradesh Appropriation (Vote on Account) Bill, 1973—Introduced ...... 297-299

Motion to considcz ...... 297 Motion to Pass ...... 299

Shri P. Vankatasubhaiah...... 298

Shri K. Narayana R a o ...... 298

Shri G. Viswanathan ..... 299

Shri K. R. G a n e s h ...... 299

Re. C.B.I. Inquiry into Rags Scandal .... 300-304

Andhra Pradesh Appropriation Bill, 1973—Introduced and passed 299-300 Statutory Resolution re. Approval of proclamation in relation to Orissa & Orissa Budget, 1973- 74—General Discussion, Demands for Grants, on Account, 1973-74 anc* Supplementary De­ mands for Grants, 1972-73 ...... 304-364

Shri K. C. Pant ...... 304-308

Shri P. K. Deo ...... 340*346

Shri Dinen B h a tta ch a ry y a ...... 345-352

Shri JagannathRao ...... 352-357

Shri Rudra Pratap S i n g h ...... 357-350

Shri Arjun Sethi . . . . 361-364 LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOK SABHA the months of January and February, 1973, the army was called out on 8 occasions for the maintenance of Thunday, March 22, 1973/Chaitra 1, essential services and on 17 occasions 1895 (Saka) ior maintaining law and order Fur­ ther details are given m statements The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the laid on the Table of the House. Clock [Placed tn Library See No LT-4556/ 73 1 [M r S peaker tn the Chair] ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS (b) According to standing instruc­ tions of Government the prior Army tailed for Maintenance of bpproval of the Central Government Essential Services and for Cont­ is not required before army assistance rolling Law and Order Situation is sought by State Governments for maintaining law and order How­ *421 PROF NARAIN CHAND ever, according to the same instruc­ PARASHAR- Will the Minister of tions, troops are made available for DEFENCE be pleased to state the maintenance of essential services (a) the numbrr of occasions along onlv after approval b-s the Central with the names of the places and the Government States m which the army has been (c) Government are not aware of called out to assist the Civil authori­ any such statement having been ties in the maintenance of essential made by any senior military officer services and for controlling the law and order situation during the calen­ PROF NARAIN CHAND PARA-w dar year 1972 and the months of SHAR While we are appreciative January and February 1973, of the good work done by the army (b) whether the State Governments on the various occasions mentioned concerned obtained the approval of m the statement, may I know who Centra] Government before request­ bears the expenditure incurred on ing the Officers in Command of the these occasions’ army in the States concerned, and SHRI VIDYA CHARAN SHUKLA: (c) whether any senior military I suppose the State Governments bear Officer has recently disapproved of the expenditure the tendency of deploying armed PROF NARAIN CHAND PARA­ forces for the purposes of controlling SHAR: Since the answer to part (c) political and violent agitations for of the question is “No”, may I know regional purposes7 whether he is absolutely sure that no THE MINISTER OF STATE senior army officer has made such a (DEFENCE PRODUCTION) IN THE statement, because it amounts to some MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI sort of politicalisation of the issue’ VIDYA CHARAN SHUKLA): (a) If not will this question be gone During the calendar year 1972 and into in detail’ Oral Answers MARCH 22, 1073 Oral Answer? 4

SHRI VIDYA CHARAN SHUKLA: Therefore, the question of considering, We have gone into this question in it does not arise. dttiail. Part (c) has been answered after ascertaining all the facts. SHRI P. VENKATASUBB AI AH: At one time, when the popular Gov­ ernment was in Andhra Pradesh, the- SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA; In view army was also requisitioned. Now, cf the fact that the so-called law and the law and order situation has been order breakdown seems to bo on the brought to normal In order to- increase for various reasons, may I remove the misapprehensions among know whether the Government is the people there, is the Government thinking o£ some other means of serioubly considering, since it is under dealing with such situations rather the President’s Rule, to withdraw the than committing the armed forces to army as soon as possible? this job, in view of the fact that it cannot bo good even for the morale SHRI VIDYA CHARAN SHUKLA: of the armed forces to be brought in The army units am in their normal xepeatedly to perform such duties pliaces of deployment They are not which are not normally their duties, deployed for non-military duties at (apart from creating certain ideas also present there. in the minds of certain people in the armed forces that the civil authorities are unable to function without the wam yrerrefr .- srnsr sfr help of the armed forces’

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SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY: I Calcutta, were really what we might want to know from the Minister call the counterparts of what has now whether there are Urdu-speaking become the Bharat Coking Coal and Biharis in those one thousand people, the CMA in the public sector. There­ fore, I would like to know why the MR. SPEAKER: Where are you going employees ef these two central orga­ to?___(Interruption*) You can give nizations of mine owners, that is their separate notice. head-oflfices, should not also be con­ sidered for absorption into the Bharat SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY: Coking Coa. and the CMA since they Sir, in the garb of Urdu-speaking peo­ are central organisations formerly in ple, Bihari Muslims want to enter in­ the private sector and now taken over. to India. MR. SPEAKER: No question of Urdu­ THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND speaking. If you want, you can table MINES (SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARA- a separate question. MANGALAM): I am afraid I cannot agree with the hon. Member when he Absorption of Employees of Indian compares the emergence of the Bharat Mining Association and Indian Mining Coking Coal and the Coal Mines Federation Authority with the Indian Mining Association and the Colliery-owners' *423. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Will Association. These organizations were the Minister of STEEL AND MINES merely for co-ordination of the activi­ be pleased to state the steps being ties of the coal-mine owners, whereas taken to absorb the employees of the these organisations will be directly Indian Mining Association and the running the coal mines and ultimately Indian Mining Federation as well as they will own them after full nation­ the Joint Working Committee of alisation. Therefore, I do not think Miners after the take over of the the analogy is correct. non-coking coal mines by Govern­ ment? SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: It is not the question of analogy. The staff THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE employed here were looking after the MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES co-ordination of the various coal­ (SHRI SUBODH HANSDA): Since the mines They have acquired over the Indian Mining Association, Indian years a certain expertise in the matter Mining Federation and joint Working of dealing with these coal-mines. Committee are not coal mines accord­ Therefore, I would like to know ing to the definition given in ithe Coal whether the Bharat Coking Coal and Mines (Taking Over of Management) the CMA have set up any kind of Ordinance. 1973, the management of Selection Committees to recruit staff which has been taken over by the Cen­ for the new organisations and if so, tral Government the question of ab­ whether these Selection Committees sorbing the employees of these orga­ will be advised to consider also ap­ nisations does not arise. plications from the employees of these two bodies. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: The answer given relies on some sort of a technical explanation. I would like SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARAMAN- to know whether it is not a fact that GALAM: The hon. Member. I am sure, so lon«( as these mines were in the will appreciate that of the staff of the private sector, whether coking mines coal mine owners in Calcutta and in or non-coking mines, this Indian Min­ other centres who are doing office work ing Association and the Indian Mining in. the private coal mining industry, Federation, with their head-offtces in the likelihood is that some 300 surplus i l Orat, Answers MARCH 22, 1973 Oral Answers clerical office staff will have to be SHRI JYOTlftltfOY BOSU: Sir, I taken by the Coal Mines Authority lor hate to do anything 'ftrhich Vtfill trouble the conduct of its business in Calcutta. you, Sir. This is our present assessment and we •are trying to rationalise this by MR. SPEAKER: He is verv normal transfer of some of the employees to m the morning. other areas where they can be usefully SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA •employed, but the scope for this is May I know whether it is a fact thaft somewhat limited. after the taking over of the non-coking coal mines large number of dhawans, Regarding the employment of the clerical employees etc. axe still there sta.l of the Indian Mining Association waiting to be ab&orbed Beginning from and the Indian Mining Federation, the 0 Class IV staff, there are other cate- difficulty is that if we accept the gozies of staff, telephone operators, staff of these organisations who will ordinary clcrks, etc, who are still to be surplus to the 500 who are already be absorbed and they have also sent .surplus, we will have demanac, prob­ representations to the Ministry, here ably from the colliery owners associa­ m Delhi and also the counterparts at tion, the Madhya Pradesh -Vidarbha Calcutta in order to see that they Mining Association, Soft Coke Distri­ are not unemployed ior lone I want butors’ Association, all on the giounrl to know the reaction of the Govern­ that they are an inseparable part of ment to their requests. the coal industry and we may well face a time when the coal merchants SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARAMAN- «nd the middle men and also their OALAM. Certain representations have employees will insist on their employ­ eeu made to the Government regard­ ment. That is the difficulty. In any ing the question of employment of event, at the present moment +hese these different clerical and non-clerical organisations are very active in the staff m the head office of different interests of the employers. Those colliery mine owners in Calcutta and who are working in those organisa­ other places. A Screening Committee tions are also very active. Because has been set up by the coal mines we have taken over t’le'-e organisa­ authority which will try to establish as tions. as the hon. Member will ap­ to who are reallv employed in these preciate, these persons will not be offices and who are doing the work. ■sleeping in respect of the various And m this screening we are trying to •claims etc. under the Act and they take the help and assistance of the will be taking up whatever claims are trade unions as well. But, hon. Mem­ possible since the take-over. bers, I am sure, will appreciate that MR. SPEAKER: Next question. this is a difficult problem and that we are trying to do is to settle it in the SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Kindly most equitable and proper manner. allow us to ask one supplementary. Sir, This is an important question. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: How does screening arise In the case of MR. SPEAKER: You should be a those employees of these two central little more alert. You must get un organisations which are not head ■when I look to your side. Luckily, offices of any particular coal mining the other gentleman is not there You company? can ask. SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARAMAN- SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA GALAM; So far as these two central Sir, is it A fact ... organisations are concerned Z have already indicated that the question MR. SPEAKER: It Is my duty to see screening -will not arise. VTe have ittrt1 whether you are getting up or not.. yet accepted a position that they have Oral Answers CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SA K A) Oral Answers r.a rijgbi to em ploym ent under the new SHRI RAGHUNATHA REDDY: I do organisation. A large number of issues not have immediate information re­ are involved and unless the matter is garding this. I will collect them and examined in depth and in details it is place them on the Table of the House. impossible to come to any definite conclusion. SHR: M. KATHAMUTHU; In view of tbe fact that no trade union Act SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Has he is applicable to the agricultural work­ issued any directive not to absorb the ers and in view of the fact the farm telephone operators, dhawans etc? If workers and agricultural workers have so, w hat are the reasons? also to handle pesticides and insecti­ cides and there are casualties which SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARAMAN- call for death or gratuity relief and GALAM: No such directive has been all that, may I know from the hon. issued by me. Minister whether the Government wiU bring a comprehensive legislation so Proposal for bringing agricultural that the Workmen’s Compensation .(’Ct workers under Workmen’s and other trade union Acts could be Compensation Act made applicable to t'le agricultural w orkers? -425. SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU: Will the Minister of LABOUR AND REHABILITATION be pleased to SHRI RAGHUNATHA REDDY: This state: matter is also under study. (a) whether there is any proposal SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD; Is it to bring the agricultural workers under not a fact that category that the hon. the purview of the Workmen’s fom- Minister has just now mentioned is a pensation Act; and very small percentage of the total (b) if so, the main features thereof? number of workers and, if so, how long is the Government thinking over THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND this proposal to bring all of them REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU- under the Workmens Compensation NATHA REDDY): (a) and (b). Work­ Act? Could we have an idea about ers employer in "farming by tractors the dead-'ine o: by what time the or other contrivances driven by steam Government will be in a position to or other mechanical power or by elec­ bring that legislation? tricity are already covered by the W orkmen’s C om pensation Act, 1323. SHRI RAGHUNATHA REDDY: It The question of covering other agri­ is true that t’le coverage of the Act, cultural workers is under study. as far as the catesories mentioned in SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU: From the my answer are concerned, is obviously reply given by the hon. Minister, I small. With respect to the other presume that the Workmen’s Compen­ matters, the State Governments are sation Act is applicable only to the free to amend the schedule, whenever ■ fully machanised farms. If so, I would they feel like it, to e.xtend the pro-, like to know from the hon. Minister visions of the Act to various other cate­ how many farms in our country are gories also. Having regard to all these covered by the Workmen’s Compensa­ problems, we are making a study to tion Act and, out of th?m. how many see in what manner the provisions of are State-owned and how many are the Workmen’s Compensation Act co-operatives and how many are owned could be made applicable to ell the by other individuals. Also, may I workers in the agricultural field ' know the number of agricultural having regard to the magnitude and workers employed in these farms? importan ce of the problem. . 15 Oral Answers MARCH 22, 1978 Oral Answers 16

* * o ift* : W *R®T *?t benefited, and who is going to pay*' the compensation? Is it by the owners v m f gTCT fr *5t, or will it be paid by the Government?' I want to know. fo r qfr *swr *$?r t*: ■frfaar l?w*? 20 ^ *ft% *rr «R MR. SPEAKER: There is nothing in. his hand; you are asking questions, cnpft *wr sft w *rs*r *r on that.

fVWTRT f o f l f l i f*F 5ft«nfgp?ft5T my best to see in what manner the rural side. Minimum Wages Act can be made ap­ plicable to agricultural labour also. In thjs context I am asking whether it is a question of bringing in the SHRI K. S. CHAVDA: How much agricultural workers under the Work­ time will the Government take to com­ men’s Compensation Act or the Mini­ plete it’s studies, and may I know mum Wages Act, for effective imple­ whether the Government is «oin{> to mentation, while they try to hide be­ lay on the Table of the House the re­ hind the fact that they are more con­ port of the study? cerned with th^ agricultural labourers, they do not want to give the benefits SHRI RAGHUNATHA REDDY: to the urban labour. Should we not When it is completed. safeguard the interests of the agricul­ tural workers in the rural areas both SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA- under the Workmen’s Compensation This should be replied to by the Min’ *• F»s well as the Minimum Wages Acts? ter of Agriculture; not by the Labour Minister. SHRI RAGHUNATHA REDDY: I am submittir" the entire matter SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN: Aris­ i ttie Workmens Compensation Act—-it The hon. Minister is aware of the fact is a very good idea—I want to know that even in the States where the from the hon. Minister in what line Minimum Wages Act is there, it is not he is thinking. He is only the Labour being Implemented. 1 would like to Mtoister, but this subject ia also con- know whether the hon. Minister' ia cerned with the Minister of Agricul­ studying this problem ateo. ture and the Ministry of AgHculture. What *rtf the categories that will be SHRI .RAGHUNAT30A IU§PDY: Im­ brought m $ »'tfti8 legiflafttotf an* be plementation of 'the JfWmurn 'Jftige* 17 Oral A nsw ers CHAITRA 1, 1&&5 (SAKA) Oral Answer* 18

Act m the rural areas us a stupendous The need for enforcing these instruc­ problem It does not need any regu­ tions has again been reiterated to alL lations as Shri Vajpayee would like Missions or expect me to have I am submitting again that on the floor of the House— (b) Yes, Sir This has been done inr I speak subject to correction—I said cooperation with the Security agencies that I would like to call a conference of the host Governments to discuss this subject m all serious­ ness to see m what manner the Mini­ SHRI P M MEHTA I would like mum Wages Act can be implemented to know from the hon Minister whether any Indian Missions abroad It is not a question of legislating a have felt that the present security proposition It is a question of imple­ arrangements are not adequate If so, menting it When it comes to imple­ the names of the Missions and the mentation in what manner that should steps taken to meet the requirements be done and what instruments are of the Missions may be given necessary for implementing that in the rural areas is a question which will SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH have to be gone into m depth Mere Normal security measures are always passing of legislation is not going taken But after this incident took to help in the matter place in London, we did receive mes­ sages from a number of Missions abroad They made a request that we Threat to Indian Missions abroad by should strengthen our security Black December Movement measures In that direction steps have + been taken from our side 426 SHRI P M MEHTA SHRI S A MURUGANAN- SHRI VASANT SATHF At the time THAM of this incident in London how man* security personnel and of what de­ Will the Mmistei of EXTERNAL signations, were posted at our Mis­ AFFAIRS be pleased to state sions and what was the rolo played bv them’ (a) the efforts made by Government to ensure prooer security arrange­ MR SPEAKER Will it be a desir­ ments at Indian Missions abroad fol­ able question to answer’ I am sorry lowing the recent threat by Black I am not allowing that December Movement th t Indian Mis­ sions would be their mam target of attacks in future and Representatives of India and Pakistan (b) whether proper security ar­ in UN invited for talks by UN rangements exist at present fot the Secretary General protection of the Indian Diplomatic Missions’ + *427 SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SHRI RAMSHEKHAR MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS PRASAD SINGH (SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) (a) Our Missions abroad already have de­ Will the Minister of EXTERNAL tailed instructions regarding preventive AFFAIRS be pleased to state measures to be taken to meet security pa oblems of this nature In fact such (a) whether the UN Secretary- measures were in force in London on General had invited for talks perma­ the day of the abortive raid and this nent representatives of India and was a contributing factor to the final Pakistan in U N after his tour of India outcome of the episode and Pakistan and *9 Oral Answers MARCH 22, 1973 Oral Answers 20

(b) whether any conclusion lor im­ the Secretary-General very often. provement in the Indo-Pak relations This question related to tany meeting has been arrived at? having been convened by the Secre- .tairy'-General a,t which the Perma­ THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL nent Representatives of India and AFFAIRS (SHRI SWARAN SINGH): Pakistan were invited. It is a fact eace. This matt'r MR. SPEAKER: How will it arise was explained to the Secretary- put of this question? General. In such matters the Secre­ tary-General has not got any, pei- SJHRI SWARAN SINGH: The pre­ sonal opinion, becausc the UN func­ sent state of Indo-Pak relations is tions as an organisation of sovereign thiat the Simla Agreement which was countries and the various bodies of concluded has been partically imple­ the UN, when they are seized of any mented. The other parts are still to problem, may give their opiaim be implemented and it is our desire But the Secretary-General as such that these should be implemented. does not give any opinion in such matter. sft ssrr* «TTTW®T q tffV : •BTT faf^JT f for wror % sfaftfa Jfefr ¥T CTPT qifawtlTH % % aRRTO' ^ fftr ,nrr ft fanr $r JWT & *flT 'S'i+i S5TPT fr o n tiiftSfcr vV ^ tftK % srT*[ ^ % jforraT «rr sft *rrar f^ror wiT?ivsr **> srrpr jwftwwr t $ f ^ ** apt f w ( ?

SHE! SWARAN SINGH: Yes. Sir. SHRI SWARAN SINGH; Our Per- I have seen the Dress statements. j^anent Representative to UN meets Our attitude in this respect is that 2 1 Oral Answers CHA1TRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) Oral Answers 22 on principle we have never opposed | fa TFfarerre # % a summit meeting. But we hold the view that for the summit meeting to succeed, there must be meetings at other levels, lower levels, so that ade­ W % fwnR 3FPT fosTT | ? quate preparations may be made and matters may be thrashed out so that SHRI SWARAN SINGH: Substan­ the summH mi^ht produce some tively there was no justification for worthwhile results. Pakistan to fc;et arms in view of very clear understanding in the Simla Agreement that all matters and all SHRI HAKI KISHORE SINGH: disputes between the two should be In view of the fact that in the recent solved peacefully and bilaterally. I general elections in Bangladesh the think it will be stretching the matter Mujib Government has received a too much to say that this is opposed thumping majority, is there any to any particular provision of the possibility to have a fresh initiative Simla Agreement. on the follow-up action of the Simla Agreement from the Government of SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: India? I did not say that. I said that it is against the spirit of the Simla Agreement. SHRI SWARAN SINGH: We must keep the whole situation in front of SHRI SWARAN SINGH: That is our mind in proper perspective. We what I have said. It is our consi­ must not forget that Bangladesh was dered view that the best way to solve not present during the Simla discus­ the problem between Pakistan and sions. We have welcomed the out­ India is by bilateral discussions and come of elections in Bangladesh by bilateral agreement, and we in­ where Sheik Mujibur Rehman’s party tend to pursue this course. has secured such an overwhelming SHRI B. V. NAIK: According to success. This has established the in­ the reply given by the hon. Minister, dependence and sovereignty of Ban­ the United Nations has been playing gladesh, which we greatly welcome. a passive role as against an active But the follow-up action on the Simla role. Is it because of the acceptance Agreement is not connected with the of the principle of bilateralism bet­ elections in Bangladesh. That is a ween India and Pakistan, which has separate issue altogether. I would remained a principle only in paper like to add that we are desirous of with superpowers intervening? initiating follow-up action so that the matters envisaged in the Simla MR. SPEAKER: It is the same Agreement as matters to be discussed question which he put the other day. and settled between the two coun­ tries could be the subject matter of SHRI SWARAN SINGH: The discussion and settlement. United Nations is an organisation which takes initiative to restore peace where it is distribued. But we must not forget that the previous history of the Indian Sub-Continent fonrsrrr errffogw $ w m shows that the United Nations has not been able to either prevent the f w «rr % * fft % mp *** outbreak of hostilities or to play an effective role when hostilities break 3T 5PT WT 3TTW tw r dWxr out. It is for this reason that the two fanr countries, India and Pakistan, enter­ ed into bilateral discussions and they grrinrr i w r % concluded the Simla Agreement. I 33 Oral Answers MARCH 22, 1973 Oral AtmoenS 24 must inform the hon. Member that SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA: any organisation, including the United He has not replied to second part of Nations, would be very willing to be my question, whether Mr. Bhutto has very active, but we should carefully written a personal letter to our Prime consider the implications of any such Minister for a summit meeting. suggestion. Our approach should be to solve these matters between India SHRI SWARAN SINGH: As re­ and Pakistan by mutual discussions, gards the correspondence between by mutual agreement, and it will be our Prime Minister and President an the interest of both if outside Bhutto, a suggestion at one time had agencies, including the United Na­ been made that there could be a tions, take less interest in this and summit meeting. As I have already -encourage the countries in the Sub- explained, our position is that a Continent to arrive at mutually summit meeting without adequate acceptable agreements. preparation is not likely to be productive. SHKI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA: The hon. Minister has said that be­ RE: Q 429 fore there can be a summit meeting, DR RANEN SEN: Sir, before the some meetings at the lower level are necessary. I want to know whether Mmirter answers the Question, I want that attempt is being continued. to draw your attention that this Secondly, I want to know whether, Question should have been replied by in the meantime Mr. Bhutto >ias sent the Housing Minister. The Question a personal letter to the Prime Minis­ No. 423 nut by Shri Indrajit Gupta ter for a summit meeting and, if so, was directed to the Labour Minister what is the reaction of the Govern­ but it was replied by the Steel ment thereto. Minister. . . . MR. SPEAKER: Whom did you SHRI SWARAN SINGH: I agree address it to? To which Ministry did that the Simla Agreement does con­ you address it’ template meetings at other levels. We would welcome such meetings. DR RANEN SEN* This Question But to understand the attitude of should have been replied by the Min­ Pakistan in a correct perspective, it ister of Housing. Anyway, since the is necessary to remember that for Labour Minister is here, let him about two months, prior to the elec­ reply it. tions in Bangladesh, President Bhutto has consistently been taking the MR. SPEAKER: You should be stand that further moves should await sure. Do you want I should postpone the outcome of elections in Bangla­ it? desh. We never accepted this as a valid reason for not taking the initia­ DR. RANEN SEN: No, no. Further tive and for not even organising the postponement means it is gone! discussions as contemplated under the Simla Agreement An initiative from MR. SPEAKER: You should be our side knowing fully well the atti­ sure about it. tude of Pakistan would not be pro­ ductive. Now that the elections are Amount spent by owners of Tea over and even Pakistan does realise Plantation for building houses for that the Government and the majority Workers party in Bangladesh has got over­ whelming support of the people, the *429. DR. RANEN SEN: Will the atmosphere, I think, is now ready for Minister of LABOUR AND REHA­ takfcnf further inttative, BILITATION be pleased to state: Oral Answers CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) Oral Answers 26 (a) whether the tea plantation To discuss all related problems in owners in West Bengal spent only accelerating the implementation of Rs. 20,060 out of the Central Govern­ the Scheme, a meeting was held at ment allocation of Rs, 40,00,000 Darjeeling on 10th February, 1973. advanced to them for building houses While the States concerned agreed to for workers during 1972; exercisc close supervision over the implementation of the Scheme, it was (b) if so, what measures Govern­ also decided that a machinery com­ ment have taken against these tea prising of all connected Ministries plantation owners; and and agencies should be set up to re­ view the progress of the implementa­ (c) what steps Government intend tion of the Scheme periodically and to lake to build the houses for to suggest solutions to problems workers? which might hinder its progress. THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU­ DR RANEN SEN: The statement NATHA REDDY): (a) to (c). A laid on the Table of the House does not statement is laid on the Table of the correspond to the statement made by Sabha. the P.W.D. Minister of West Bengal Government. In view of the fact that Statement the West Bengal Minister has catego­ rically stated that the painters have refused to take the subsidy and the (a) to (c). The Subsidised Hous­ grant given by the Government to the ing Scheme for Plantation Workers, extent of 87.50 per cent, may I know under which Central financial assis­ whether the Government of India tance is admissible to the Planters, would ask the State Government to is implemented through the respec­ take proper steps to see that the tea tive State Governments. planters utilise the Government grant and subsidy to build houses and that, During 1970-71, a sum of Rs. 6 if they refuse, proper steps be taken lakhs as loan was released to the Go­ by the State Government as it is the vernment of West Bengal for imple­ State Government which is responsible mentation of the Scheme in the for implementation of the provisions State. Out of this amount, the State under the Labour Act. Government have been able to ad­ vance tothe planters only Rs. 20,000/- during 1971-72, They expect to SHRI RAGHUNATHA REDDY: The utilise another sum of Rs. 5.50 lakhs statement attributed to the State Gov­ during the current financial year. ernment, I am not aware o f; I will out what the position is, in what cir­ cumstances the statement was made. The main difficulty for implemen­ But it is true that the planters are tation of the Scheme was that the very slow in making use of the provi­ planters were not taking out leases sions made or the facilities provided for lands they are permitted to re­ for the housing scheme for the planta­ tain under the West Bengal State tion workers. As the hon. Member has Acquisition Act, 1954. The State Go­ rightly said, nearly 87.5 per cent by vernment have recently taken action way of subsidy or by way of loan was (to get the leases finalized. provided by the government and gov­ ernment organisation, but the planters Another difficulty is stated to be are not taking. The Government is 'procurement of building materials fully seized of this matter. In fact, the 'particularly G.I. Sheets and cement, scheme is sought to be taken away etc., in North Bengal districts in from the State sector to the Central 'Which the plantations are located. sector. 2 7 Oral Answers MARCH 22, 1973 Oral Answers

DR. RANEN SEN: The Government mentioned by the hon. Minister. One' of West Bengal was given a sum of Rs. is that lands are not being taken on 40 lakhs to be taken by the planters lease by the planters from the State for the construction of houses. Out of Government under the West Bengal that, only Rs. 20,000 have been taken State Acquisition Act of 1954, and the by the planters___ other difficulty is stated to be in the procurement of building materials, AN HON. MEMBER: Out of Rs 6 particularly G. I. sheets, cement, etc. lakhs. In view of the fact that building mate­ rials are not properlv available in DR. RANEN SEN: According to the North Bengal for the housing scheme statement of the Central Government, of plantation workers, may I know the sum of Rs. 6 lakhs is for &ne year. whether the Government or the But the total money sanctioned by the Labour Ministry will make liaisor with Government of India for the construc­ other corresponding Ministries for tion of houses was Rs. 40 lakhs, ac­ availability of ’ hese raw materials to cording to West Bengal Government. complete the scheme of housing for the Now you can verify. tea plantation workers m West Bengal In view of such a poor performance, may I know whether Government are MR SPEAKER: Please do not ask thinking of taking any other steps to so long a question Please be brief. see that the houses are built, if not by the planters, by the employer, by the SHRI RAGHUNATHA REDDY: The State Government and the Central plantations are asked to renew their Government out of this fund which is lying idle for the last two or three leases as early as possible. years. About the rest of the question re­ SHRI RAGHUNATHA REDDY: The garding materials for building, etc., Government of India decided to trans­ the attention of the concerned Minis­ fer the scheme from the State sector tries has been drawn and they have to the Central sector of the Plan, out­ taken a very helpful attitude---- (In­ side the State Plan ceilings, from the terruptions) About the material like year 1970-71. Government of India zinc sheets and building materials, also provided a sum of Rs. 2 crores in etc, the attention of the Ministry of the Central sector for the scheme Steel has been drawn to this and they during the Fourth Plan. To vigorous­ have taken a very helpful attitude in ly pursue the plan schemes for provid­ the matter. ing houses for plantation workers, the Minister of State for Housing held a conference, including therein some of MR. SPEAKER: Dr. Ranen Sen, I the officers of the State and other re­ have seen your original question. It presentatives. This matter is being is in your own hand-writing and you vigorously pursued. have addressed it to the Labour Minis, ter. SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY: The Central Government has now DR. RANEN SEN: Even then, you taken up the Plan in the Central sec­ could have referred it to the Works tor In view of the fact that the tea and Housing. industry is already in the Central sec­ tor, I cannot understand why the Gov­ ernment of India took such a long time SHRI R. BALAKRISHNA PILLAI: to come to a decision. For not imple­ From the answer it is dear that so* menting the housing scheme for plan­ many lakhs of rupees allotted by the tation workers, two reasons have been Central Government for building: 39 Oral Answers CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) Oral Answer?

housas for the plantation labour liove Escape by Pak P.O Ws. from Camps remaned unutilised So, why not the + Government consider making thvs *4312 SHRI SHANKERRAO money available to Tamil Nadu and SAVANT- Kerala where there is lack of funds? SHRI DHAMANKAR*

MR SPEAKER Prom Bengal you Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state. have moved to he other end Sorry, I am not allowing (a) how many Pakistani Prisoners ot War have escaped from the Indian Shri Nawal Kishore Sharma Camps so far,

SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD If (b) how many were killed while that is a fact and knowing full-well escaping and how many were re-arres­ that the tea plantations are not using ted, the sanctioned money, what steps the Government are taking in this regard (c) the factors that have facilitated to build houses for the plantation the escape of Prisoners of War, and workers’ (d) whether any organisation is try­ ing to help the Prisoners of War to SHRI P G MAVALANKAR Have escape’ you allowed him Sir’ How can he ask a question when you have moved to the next question’ THE MINISTER OF STATE (DE­ FENCE PRODUCTION) IN THE MI­ NISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI VIDYA SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD; ts CHARAN SHUKLA) (a) 22 he the Speaker? (b) Killed 12 Rearrested 49. SHRI P G MAVALANKAR. When the Chair says that it has moved to the (c) and (d) Adequate security mea- next question, how can he put the suies already exist in the Camps to question’ I want your guidance prevent any escape but inspite of these the Prisoners of War, take the risk to SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA The Chair escape The Government is not only was moving He has not moved aware of any organisation trying to help them to escape MR SPEAKER I did move to the SHRI SHANKERRAO SAVANT* next question Now, the Minister does According to the code of conduct for not move What should I do’ the soldiers every prisoners is expec­ (Interruption) ted to make a bid for escape Indian prisoners have not made a bid to es­ MR SPEAKER Mr Azad, I have cape- because the entire population not called you (Interruption) roundabout is hostile to them But the Pakistani camp® are away from the border And still as many as 92 per­ SHRI S M BANERJEE When you sons have tried to escape and 22 of have already moved, can some hon them succeeded in escaping also. Member pull the chain and atop you? Though there may not be any organi­ How can it be’ sation to help them, have any person* helped the POWs to escape and it $o, what are the reasons? How MR. SPEAKER: Shri Shankerrao many are there’ Who are they? How Savant are they being dealt with? 3983 LS—2 Written Answers MARCH 22, 1978 Written Answers 32

SHRI VIDYA CHARAN SHUKLA: (b) The expenditure upto cad of There are a few cases which came to March 1973 is estimated at Rs. 82.71 our notice in which some Indian na­ crores. tionals tried to help them. These peo­ ple have been apprehended. The cases (c) During 1970-71, 1043 officers' quarters and 6,646 quarter for others are proceeding ahead in the matter. were completed while during 1971-72> SHRI SHANKERRAO SAVANT: 598 officers' quarters and 6,150 quar­ How many are there? ters for others were completed. SHRI VIDYA CHARAN SHUKLA; A few, may be, 3 or 4. In addition, 4904 officers’ quarters and 25,347 others’ quarters have been SHRI DHAMANKAR: I want to sanctioned, some of which are under- know whether the residents v.ho construction. A few of them are ex­ helped those prisoners who escaped pected to be completed during 1972- belong to the area where the prison­ 73. ers’ camps are established. I want to know the names of these persons. Reopening of Hindustan Motors Unit, Have they been arrested? Calcutta SHRI VIDYA CHARAN SHUKLA: They belong to the same area where *428 SHRI M. M. JOSEPH: Will the camps are located. Since pro­ the Minister of LABOUR AND REHA­ ceedings are going on I do not think BILITATION be pleased to state: it would be proper for me to disclose the names. (a) whether any accord was signed WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUFS- for reopening the Hindustan Motors TIONS Unit in Calcutta recently and the Construction of Houses for Army Unit has started functioning; and Perasonnel in Five Year Defence Flan (b) if so, the main features there­ of? *424. SHRI C. JANARDHANAN: Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU­ (a) the total outlay made for pro­ NATHA REDDY): (a) and (b). The viding housing accommodation for lay-off and the strike was called off army personnel in Five Year Dcfence on the basis of the suggestions made Plan; on 22nd February, 1973 by the State (b) how much of this mount has authorities. These were to the effect been spent so far; and that while the management should withdraw the charge-sheet and sus­ (c) what is the progress so lar pension orders (except in the case of made in constructing houses for the 20 workmen), not to victimize the army personnel? workers and maintain their conti­ THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE nuity of service; the workers should (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM); (a) Ho maintain discipline and the produc­ separate provision for housing ac­ tion targets. There would be no commodation exists in the Five wages paid for the strike period. The Year Defence Plan (1070-71 to 1974- State Government subsequently an­ 75). However, a sum of approximate­ nounced its decision on the increment ly Rs. 86 crores, out of the total pro­ of wages to be given to the workers vision made therein for Capital and advised the management to with­ Works, was intended to be spent on draw the suspension orders against provision of married accommodation the workers who participated in the lor army personnel. strike. 3 3 Written Answers CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 34

Cuttaral Delegations on Indian Classi­ Statement cal Music and Dance 1970-71 — A Delegation including *430. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE Kumari Uma Sharma SHARMA Will the Minister of EX­ (Kathak) and the Bhartiya TERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to Kala Kendra troups to Mauri­ state: tius — A 15-Member delegation of (a) whether one of the main objects the Institute of Choreography of the Indian Council of Cultural New Delhi to Afghanistan Relations is to promote cultural rela­ tions with foreign countries; — Ustad (Sitar) to Afghanistan (b) if so, the steps taken by the — A delegation including Gogia Council to fulfil the objectives; and Pasha (Magician) and Smt. Sandhya Mukherjee (Vocal­ (c) whether the Council has spon­ ist) to Afghanistan sored some cultural delegations to bring home the excellance of the — A delegation including Smt Indian classical music and dance to (Bharat some foreign countries and if so, an Natyam) and Smt. Jyotsna account thereof? Bhole (Vocal) to Nepal — A Delegation including Kumari THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Bharati Gupta (Kathak) to MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS Sikkim (SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH), (a) Yes, Sir. — A six member Bharatiya Natya Sangh Puppeteers (b) In pursuance of its objectives, troupe to Bhutan the Indian Council for Cultural Rela­ tions has undertaken a wide range of — A sixteen member troupe of activities such as establishment of folk dancers to Sikkim. Chairs of Indian Studies abroad; invit­ ing scholars, artists and leaders of 1971-72 opinion from other countries to visit — A delegation including Smt. India and sending Indian scholars, Madhuri Mattoo (Vocal), Smt. artists and specialists in various fields Mandakini Malviya (Kathak) to visit other countries on goodwill- and Shri Yakub Ali Khan cum-lecture tours; sending of exhibi­ (Sarod) to Nepal. tions of Indian art. books and handi­ crafts; organisation of international — Delegation including Smt. M. conferences and Seminars; publication K. Saroia (Bharat Natyam) of books and journals in foreign lan­ and Shri Nikhil Banerji guages wthi a view to making the (Sitar) to Nepal various aspects of Indian life and cul­ ture better known abroad; award of — The Indian Revival Dance research grants and scholarships to Troupe led by Shri Jog foreign scholars for further studies Sunder to Bhutan and trailing in different aspects of Indian culture; opening of Indian Cul­ r- A ten member troupe of the Kuchipudi Dance Academy of tural Centres abroad, etc. Madras led by the Director (c) Ye*, s$ir. A statement is laid and Dance Gtiru Shri Chenna On the table o f the House. Satyam to Sikkim 35 Written £nm*rs , , MARCH (22, 1)873 t. it Written Answer*

— A Pupfctf$%t#nd Folk Dance Troupe of the Bharatiya Lok Kala Mandal to Sikkim thak Dancer) and Shri Rah- — The Triveni Kala Sangam mat Ali Khan (Sarodist) t o Manipur! Dance Troupe to Nepal. > Afghanistan — A delegation including — Ustad Halim Jatfar Khan Kumari Swapnasundari (Ku- (Sitarist) to Kenya chipudi Dancer) and Shri 1972-73 ,, , Vijai Kumar (Kathak Dancer), to Sikkim — Kumari Yamini Krishnamur- thy (Bharat Natyam Dancer) — A delegation including Shri to Thailand An ant Lai (Shahnai Player) and Shri Raja, and Smt. — Kumari Kalyani Roy (Sitar­ Radha Reddy (Kuchipudi ist) to Mauritius Dancers) to Mauritius. — A delegation including Begum Akhtar and Ustad Halim Jaffer Khan (Sitarist) to Replacement of Aircraft of LN*S. Afghanistan Vikrant

— Tribal Dance Troupe from *431. SHRI B. S. BHAURA: Will Ranchi to Sikkim the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state: — A delegation including Dr. Sumati Mutatkar (Vocalist), (a) whether any final decision has Sri Debu Chaudhuri (Sitarist) been taken regarding the replacement and Kumari Bijoy Lakshmi of the outmoded aircraft of I.N.S. Mohanty (Orissi Dancer) to Vikrant with modem planes; and Nepal. (b) if so, the nature of the decision — Shri V. G. Jog (Violionist) to taken? Ceylon

— Shri Yakub Ali Khan (Sarod­ 7 HE MINISTER OF DEFENCE ist) to Switzerland. (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) No, Six. — A delegation including Ustad Nazir Zahiruddin Dagar (Vo­ (b) Does not arise. calist), Ustad Nazir Faiyazu- News Report: Expanding Expansions' ddin Dagar (Vocalist), Ustad Asad Ali Khan (Beenkar) and *438. SHRI VAYALAiR RAVI: Kumari Nalini Malhotra (Ka- Will the Minister of STEEL AND thak and Orissi Dancer) to MINES be pleased to state: Afghanistan (a) whether Government noticed — A delegation including Sri the reports appearing in the “Economic Debabrata Biswas, Smt. Ku- and Political Weekly’ dated the 17th nika Bandopadhyay, Smt. February, 1979, under the caption Ex­ Manju Gupta, Sint. Purbi panding Expansions; and Bandopadhyay and Kumari Ritu Guha (all Musicians) to (b) if so, Government’s reaction Bangladesh. thereto? *37 Written Answers CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 38

THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND (ii) Legislation to regulate emp. MINES (SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARA- loyment in Film Industry; MANGALAM): (a) Yes Sir, (iii) Legislation to provide lor (b) Bokaro has been conceived of safety of workers in Building as a 4M.T. Rant, of which 1.7 M.T. and Construction Industry; 'will be a stage in construction. A and detailed project report for expansion (iv) Legislation to set up a Welfare of Bhilai from its present capacity of Fund for Manganese mines. 2 5 million ingot tonnes to 4 million ingot tonnes is under preparation. Besides, Bills for amending the exist­ ing labour laws, like the Industrial During the recent discussions in the Disputes Act, 1947 and the Factories Indo-Soviet Joint Commission, the Act, 1948, are also under considera­ possibility of further expansion of the tion. capacity of Bokaro to about 10 million ingot tonnes and of Bhilai to about 7 Need Baaed Education Programme lor million ingot tonnes was recognised Labour and it has been decided to prepare *435. SHRI D. K. PANDA: Will the technical and economic reports on Minister of LABOUR AND REHABI­ these expansions. The final decision LITATION be pleased to state: will be taken on. techno-economic con­ siderations. (a) whether any need-based educa­ tion programme for labour is chalked Apart from the phased expansion of out to train the workers in Trade Bhilai and Bokaro Steel Plants, the Unionism Labour Laws and industrial work of the Salem, Visakhapatnam Relations by the Central Board ot and Vijayanagar Steel Projects would Workers* Education and if so, the be continued in the Fifth Flan. broad features thereof; (b) the total number of regional Workmen Education Centres in exis­ New Labour Laws tence and whether there is any plan *434. SHRI P. GANGADEB: for their expansion in different re­ gions; and SHRI Y. ESWARA REDDY: (c) if so, whether Orissa is included therein? Will tbe Minister of LABOUR AND REHABILITATION be pleased to THE. MINISTER OF LABOUR AND state: REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU­ NATHA REDDY): (a) A country­ (a) the new labour laws proposed wide scheme of Workers’ Education, V the Centre; and providing for instruction in trade union philosophy, trade union organic (b> whether any legislation is like­ sation, urrion-management relations, ly to be introduced in the Parliament? Labour legislation, collective bargain­ ing, other matters of labour interest, THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND is in operation since 1953. REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU­ NATHA REDfcY): (a) and (b). The (b) There are at present 32 Region­ following legislative proposals are al Centres, known as Workers* Educa­ under consideration of the Govern­ tion Centres. Four more centres axe ment:— proposed to be opened.

(1) Conpprehensiye law on Indus- (c) A Regional Centre is function­ trial relations; ing at Rourkela in Qrissa. Written Answers MARCH 22, 1973 Written Answers 40*

Winding up of Hindustan Steel Limit, creates many problems including those ed on Formation of S-AXL. Qf secuiity; and

*436. SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA: <.b) if so, the Fteps Government are WiH the Minister of STEEL AND taking to build an exclusive nava! MINES be pleased to state: yard for warships? THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (a) whether Government propose to (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) No, wind up the Hindustan Steel Limited S,r in view of the registration of SAIL; and (b) A Naval Dockyard is function­ ing in Bombay and another is under (b) if so, the reasons thereof? construction in Visakhapatnam. How­ ever, our naval ships also go to differ­ THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND ent shipyards of the public sector for MINES (SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARA- rpj-ans and mam'enance. MANGALAM): (a) and (b). There is no immediate proposal to this effect. Complaint Regarding Non-Disbunse- It may, however, be mentioned that ment of Sickness Benefits under E.SJ. with the formation of the Steel Autho­ Schcme rity of India Ltd., the reorganisation *439. DR. LAXMINARAIN PAN- of HSL will have to be taken up after DEYA: some time. SHRI JAGANNATHRAO JOSH1: Retirement Age of Military Will the Mim/jter of LABOUR AND Personnel REHABILITATION be pleased t > state: *437. SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH MALIK: ( t) how many complaints regarding non-disbursement of sickness benefits SHRI BIRENDER SINGH under the Employees State Insurance RAO: Scheme to employees of Delhi Trans­ Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pox t Corporatio i have been received pleased to state: during the last one year; and (a) whether Government propose to fb) the step? taken in each case and raise the age of letirement of all Mili­ the results thereof? tary Personnel; and THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU­ (b) if so, the outlines thereof? NATHA REDYY): The Corporation THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE has furnished the following informa­ tion:— vSHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) No such proposal is under consideration (a) Separate figures for the Delhi at present. Transport Corporation are not avail­ able. In all 412 complaints were re. lb) Does not arise. ceived in Delhi during the year ended 31st December, 1972 about non-dis- Bailding of Separate Naval Yard Cor bursement of benefits under the Emp­ Warship loyees' State Insurance Scheme. •438. SHRI VTSHWANATH PRA- (b) Of 412 complaints, 340 have TAP SINGH: Will the Minister of been investigated and disposed of. The DEFENCE be pleased to state; remaining 72 cases are under investi­ gation. Of the complaints disposed of,

CagnMMtioii to Unrooted lenaM of Pravirtan of Shelters Jar CUMren of Border Areas Labourers While at Work *440 SHRI G Y KRISHNAN Will 4136 SHRI C K JAFTER SHA- the Minister of LABOUR AND RE­ RIEF Will the Minister of LABOUR HABILITATION be pleased to state AND REHABILITATION be pleased to state (a) whether the Chief Minister of Punjab has urged the Centre to pay (a) whether Government have sug­ compensation to upiooted persons m gested to the State Government to border areas for land which they provide shelters for the labourers who could not sow during the 1972 kharif have to leave their childien while at season, work, and

(b) whether he has also suggested (b) if so, the mam features thereof’ that the net income of landowners should be the basis of crop compensa­ THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND tion for areas taken over for defence REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU- purposes, and NATHA REDDY) (a) and (b) No (c) if so the reaction of Govern­ However various labour laws like the ment thereon7 Factories Act, 1948, the Plantations Labour Act, 1951, the Beedx and Cigar THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND Workers (Conditions of Employment) REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU- Act, 1966, and the Mines Act 1952 NATHA REDDY) (a) Yes, Sir contain provisions for creches for the children of women workers (b) Yes Sir The Chief Minister of Punjab had raised the question of Shortage of Steel in DDA. adopting the punciple of payment of crop compensation on the basis of net 4157 SHRI T SOHAN LAL Will income accruing to the land owners the Minister of STEEL AND MINES as was done in the case of khanf be pleased to state 1971 (a) whether Delhi Development (c) In regard to (a), the matter Authority is not provided with its full having been considered at length, the requirement of steel, and Punjab Government was advised to formulate such schemes which would (b) if so, whether this has had an ensure the proper resettlement of such adverse effect on the construction pro­ areas where kharif crop 1972 could gramme of DDA9 not be town due to temporary enemy occupation The Punjab Government have since forwarded the schemes for THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE about Rs 8 crores in this regard MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES Thee® schemes have been examined (SHRI SUBODH HANSDA) • There is and the necessary sanctions are under a shortage of steel in the country and issue. the Delhi Development Authority like consumers in other parts of the coun­ try might not have been allotted their In regard to (b), crop compensa­ tion in areas taken over for defence requirements in full. purposes has already been related to net income There had been a sugges­ (b) No such reference about the tion from the Punjab Government construction programme of DDA hav­ that labourers* share should not be ing been adversely affected due to deducted in the case of land which ahftrtagA of steel materials has recen­ could not be sown- It has not been tly been brought to Government's found possible to accept this. notice 43* Written Answers MARCH 22, 1973 Written Answers

Steps token to nwHJnereftsiiif demaud tional incentive lor increasing for S M production progressively.

4158. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Will (ii) Since the take-over of the management of HSCO by the Minister of STEEL AND MINES Government on July 14, be pleased to state steps Government 1972, a number of steps have have taken to meet the increasing demand for steel in the country and been taken to solve its im­ the total quantity of steel expected to mediate problems and increase be imported during 1973-74 to serve production including the the purpose and the percentage of this supply of coal tar and coke, imported quantity to the total demand emergency repairs to coke during this period? overs, procurement of mate­ rial handlmg equipment and repairs and replacements of cranes and other equipment THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE in the steel melting shop. MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI SUBODH HANSDA): The steps that are being taken to step up (iii) TISCO are implementing a production in existing steel plants are replacement programme for given below: the old coke ovens, which, en completion, should ensure adequate coke supplies. Spe­ (i) In so far as the steel plants cial efforts are being made under Hindustan Steel Ltd., to strengthen maintenance. are concerned, the manage­ ment of the company are tak­ (iv) The setting up of the Steel ing determined efforts to step Authority of India Limited up production. The measures should also help considerably taken include* specialised re­ in this direction through pairs of coke ovens, use of effective supervision and co­ alternative fules to supple­ ordination, provision of spe­ ment gas availability, oil fir­ cialised advisory services and ing in certain furnances to vertical integration and co­ augment energy require­ ordination of the other Me­ ments, improved mainten­ ters intimately connected ance aimed at better equip­ with the steel industry in the ment availability speeding up role of major suppliers of of capital programmes essen­ inputs such as, coking coal, tial to correct existing imbal­ iron ore and manganese. ances in production facilities and fanned procurement of spares, refractories and other (v) Government also keep essential material? Recently, tant watch on the perfor­ a three-tier joint consultative mance of the steel plants machinery has been sot up through periodical task force at Durgapur for speedy set­ meetings and reviews. tlement of industrial de­ putes and grievances *xnd to % The programmed production of enlist the cooperation 0f the saleable steel by the five main workers in maximising pro­ producers m 1973-74 is 3.5 million duction A new rewards bonnes. It this produtfttuti -materia­ scheme has been introduc­ lises, the import requirement duriiig ed m the Rourkela steel the year wpuld come down consTder- plant to provide an addi­ ably. It Is not possible at ‘fcrewtat to 45 Written Answers CHAITRA l» 1395 {SAKA) Written Answer* 46

indicate precisely the quantity of steel may have gone out of repair, as an that would be imported in 1973.74* as immediate measure. In some cases, this would inter-alia depend upon the attempts are being made to bridge the import policy for the year which will gap by borrowing power Irom near­ be announced very shortly. by surplus areas. The matter is also under constant review by a Group of JLoss of Production in heavy In­ Ministers constituted for this purpose. dustries due to Power Shortage The long term measures include 4159. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Will setting up of new pi ejects to be com­ the Minister of HEAVY INDUSTRY missioned in the Fifth Plan to meet be pleased to state; the increasing power requirements of the country. (a) the extent to which the pro­ duction in the Heavy Industrial es­ In the case of hydro-electric pro­ tablishments of the country have been jects, where there :s complete depen­ affected by the recent power short­ dence on rainfall and storage in the age and the total estimated loss; reservoirs, this rear's drought has caused power shortages. It is to be (b) whether Government propose to hoped that the situation will im­ set up separate power generating prove with the next rronsoon. units m these establishments; and Cc) if so, the steps Government propose to take to prevent such losses In future? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN T1IE MINISTRY OF HEAVY INDUSTRY 4160. : WT (SHRI SIDDESHWAR PRASAD): (a) w r ^ ^ fa : to (c). Production in some of the States in the heavy industrial estab­ lishment has suffered a severe set back (^ ) tot *T*r%*rr vm m t because of the 75 pfer cent power-cut. In other States where the extent of *PT tT3p ?r?TSr ftPRH STRTO «TfT*T % power-cut has been of the level of 25 sftR irar»nTr«rT5WT5T^ftn^«nr; per cent or more, there have been marginal dislocation of the production schedule. It has, however, not been (%) ft, Wt TOT STOTT % 1ST possible to quantity the extent of loss -due to this factor.

One heavy industrial establishment (*r) m Prow *ptt in Uttar Pradesh is Already having its own generating set. There is a pro­ fr^rrccr. f^vspft ?tPt 7 posal from another unit in Uttar Pra­ desh to set up its own generating set. tsmhft («rt awftyr rm ) : (v ) The Ministry of Irrigation and Power Aave considered the problem of power 3fr ft, sttor 1 shortage at Regional Power Confer­ ences at which recommendations have (m) srtr {’t). w been made both for immediate mea­ sures and for taking longer tern ac­ wft" f m vt tion during the V Plan. The short term measures include acceleration of work on a priority basis on power projects and generating tmits which t 4 47 Written Answers MARCH 22, 1973 Written Answers

Closure of Labour Depot at Gorakh­ Committee, separately, partic&ettng pur in the Republic Day Parade, 1973;

4161. SHRI NARS1NGH NARAIN (b) the amount incurred for the PANDEY; Will the Minister ol refreshment served to them; LABOUR AND REHABILITATION be (c) whether Government have re­ pleased to state: ceived any complaint about the re­ freshment served to them; and (a) whether due to nationalisation (d) if so, the action taken by Gov­ of -coking coal mines the Labour Depot ernment against the Oflloers who are at Gorakhpur is going to be closea, responsible for this case? if so, the reaction of the Government; and THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM). (a) The fol­ (b) whether Government are think­ lowing schools m Delhi participated in ing of any scheme for the Gorakhpuri the Republic Day Parade 1973: labours for their employment in coal mines, if so, the proposal thereof? (1) Government Schools 14 (ii) Aided Schools 17 THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND REHABILITATION (SHRI (in) Public School l RAGHUNATHA REDDY); (a). No, (iv) Children Home 1 Sir. Total 53 (b) The matter is undei the con­ sideration of the Government. (b) Rs. 8,744.75 (c) No, Sir. Releasing of Limestone Areas reserv­ ed for steel IndustaHes (d) Does not arise. Expenditure on Indian Embassy In* 4162. SHRI R. V. BADE; Will the Australia during 1971-72 Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state whether there is any 4164 SHRI HUKAM CHAND KAC- proposal to release limestone areas HWAI • Will the Minister of EXTER­ kept reserved for steel industries’ NAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (a) the total amount of expenditure THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE incurred on the Ambassador and Em­ MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES bassy of India in Australia during the (SHRI SUBODH HANSDA); No, Sir. financial year 1971-72;

CtaniMudes against Refreshments ser­ (b) whether the expenditure it in­ creasing year by year; and ved to students of Delhi Schools parti- cipattiif In Republic Day Parade, (c) if so, the action taken by Gov­ 1973 ernment to decrease the enhancing ex­ penditure? 4163. SHRI AMBESH: Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN’ THE state: MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH): (a) The expenditure incurred on the Am­ t* ) the number of schools of Delhi bassador was Rs. 1.08 lakhs and on. the Administration, Municipal Corpora­ Embassy of India in Australia was- tion, Delhi and New Delhi Municipal Rs. 14.81 labft*. 49 Written Answers CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 50

(b) No Sir there was a slight de­ Garden reach Workshop, Calcutta crease m expenditure (c) Does not arise 4168 SHRI R N BORMAN WiU the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased Compensation bv Pakistan to I amilies to state of those killed in war of 1971 (a) whether Government have tak­ en over Agrind Fabrications and mer­ 4165 KUMARI KAVluA KUMARI ged it to Garden Reach Workshop, Will the Ministei of EXTERNAL Calcutta, AFFAIRS be pleased to state (b) if so when and whether all the (a) whether Pakistan Government workers and office staf! including the will p a y rrmpensation to the families accounts staff have been absorbed by of the people killed m 1971 war of Government and Bangli De-’h and will also pay dama­ ges 4o Indian lamilies who were civi­ (c) whether all the accounts staff lians and were bombed Pak For­ who had been interviewed m August ces 1972 and who had put m ten vears (b) if not the reasons thereof and service have since be^n absoibed if (c) if so the nature thereof’ not the reasons therefor THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE (DEF­ MINISTRY OF EXTIRNAL AFFAIRS ENCE PRODUCTION) IN THE (SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) (a) MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI This matter has not figured in dis­ VIDYA CHARAN SHUKLA) (a) and cussions he] 1 with Pakistan so far (b) No Sir M/s Agrind Fabrications Ltd had gone nto liquidations by *in (b) and (c) Do not arise order passed by the Cilcutta High Court m August 19*38 In response President Bhutto’* statement “India to an open tender invited by the Joint will burn her Fingers in Bangla ’ Receivers appointed by the High Court, Garden Reach Workshops Ltd bid for 4166 SHRI M KATHAMUTHU the fixed assets of M/s Agrind Fab­ Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AF­ rications Ltd and acquired these m FAIRS be pleased to state* Apnl 1972 Garden Reach Work­ shops Ltd, Calcutta have established (a) whether the attention of Gov­ their Road Roller manufacturing unit ernment has been drawn to the news at these premises which appeared in National Herald dated the 27th Februarv, 1973 under Such of the ex-emplovces of M/s the heading “India will burn her fing­ Agrind Fabrications Ltd wha were ers in Bangla—Bhutto ” , and found suitable *or employment have been employed by the Company (b if so the reaction of Govern­ ment thereto’ (c) The volume of the accounts work of the Road Roller unit of Ger- TIIE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE den Reach Workshops Ltd which is MINISTRY OF EXTERN \L AFFAIRS functioning at these premises Is small. (SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) (a) The accounts are therefore at present Yes, Sir being maintained centrally by the Accounts Department of Garden Reach (b) Government has very close Workshops Ltd However, the ex­ and cordial relations with the Gov­ accounts staff of M/s. Agrind Fabri­ ernment of Bangladesh and has every cations Ltd were interviewed and a confidence that these will not suffer panel of suitable parsons has been whoever tbe provocations from third prepared for possible recruitment parties against future vacancies. ;5 * Written Answers SlAlRCH 22, 1978' Written Answer*

Setting up of a Steel Plant with Jap­ Joining the Golden Tabacco Company anese Collaboration by Chief Canteens Officers after Re­ tirement 4169. SHRI C. K. JAFFER SHARIEF: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state; 4172. SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH: Will the Minister of DEF­ ENCE be pleased to stale: (a) whether Government have de­ cided to set up a Steel Plant in India in collaboration \ith Japan; and (a) whether Grvorntnom are aware that the former Chiet Canteens Offi­ (b) if so, the ma>n features there­ cer at the AHQ hail soon alter his of? retirement in 1972, joined Golden Tobacco Company I imited and had THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE been touring Military C nnteens on be­ MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES half of the Company to promote its (SHRI SUBODH HANSDA) • (a) No, sales; Sir. (b) Does not arise. (b) if so, whether he obtained Gov­ ernment’s permission to do so: Compensation given to Landowners of Tripnra (c) whether Government are aware that this is, the second instance of a 4171. SHRI DASARATHA DEB: retiring Chief Canteens Officer to Will the Minister of DEFENCE be plea­ sed to state: join a Company soon after his retire­ ment, with whom had official deal­ (a) whether the landowners of ings while in service- and Tuisindrai (Teliamura) o£ Tupara, whose lands have been acquired by (d) if so, the steps proposed to be the Government for construction of taken by Government to stop this pra­ airport were given compensation; ctice by such Government military officials soon alte** retirement? (b) if not, the number of families who have not received compensation y et; THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI JAGJIVAN {RAM); <*) Yes, Kc) the reason for delay of the pay­ ment of compensation; and (b) An officer below the rar.k of (d) when it is likely to be paid? Colonel is not required to obtain permission *or accepting employment THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE in the private sector. The former (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) to . Chief Canteen Officer held the rank An amount of 1,76,089-69 has been dis­ of Lt. Col. at the time of retirement bursed in initial compensation for and therefore no Government pe** corps, huts and trees star ding on t tne mission was required. land in question at the time of ' Its occupation in October 1971. The (c) Yes, Sir. But Chief Canteens award in respect of acquisition is Officers do n i;( 'i *v1,,U 0li: (SAKA) WrittenMLnatocr*

KxiwrlmeiUJi Mmiw JProjjfa «i ;t

(b) the time Schedules given vvith THE MINISTER OF STATE ESf THE the Estimates; MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH): (a) (c) the Minable Reserves available Employees in Indian Missions abroad to suit these Schedules and whether are paid foreign allowance On the ba­ these are in consonance with the ac­ sis of the local cost of living. The rates cepted international practices; and of foreign allowance are revised on the basis of the recommendations (d) the practice at the Mines of the of the Foreign Service Inspe -tors Indian Copper Corporation prior to which take into account the prevailing nationalisation? rate of exchange, local costs and other factors such as expenditure which THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE an officer while serving abroad hss MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES necessarily to incur either at home (SHRI SUKHDEV PRASAD): (a) No or abroad over and above that wh'ch Cost Estimates havi‘ been sanctioned an officer of corresponding category by the Government so far tho serving m India is expected to bear. Indian Copper Complex at Ghii-sila after nationalisation. (b) Rates of foreign allowance are revised whenever a revision is war­ (b) and (c) Do not arise. ranted bv variation m exchange rate of the country concerned and other factors whi^h affect local costs. (d) The practice at mines of In­ dian Copper Corporation prior to (c) No representation from indivi­ nationalisation was that the C ost dual employees of Indian Missions ab­ Estimates of the new srhemcs were road has been received Indian Mis­ approved by the Board of Directors sions- in East Asia and West Europe of the Indian Copper Corporation where local currencies were revalued Limited. have represented for revision of rates of foreign allowance. Representation from Embassy Em­ Staff in thP Engineering Projects In­ ployees about difficulties created by re­ dia Limited valuation and Devaluation 4178. SHRI S. D. SOMASUNDA- 4177. SHRI S. N. MISRA- Will the RAM- Will the Minister of HEAVY Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be INDUSTRIES he pleased to refer to pieased to state: the reply given to Unstarred Question No 2587 o*i the 8th Match, 197.*?,. (a) whether the employees in the and state: Offices of the various Indian Em­ bassies are paid salaries and allow­ (a) whether the Engineering Pro­ ances on the same scale as prevailing jects India Limited was started very in the places of posling or according recently with less number of staff; to any uniform fixed scales; (b) if so, the tun© of start of the (b) whether such payments arc Corporation and the total staff work­ being made considering the iiJirred ing with the Corporation as on the value jmd devaluded cuncncv l.-iiios 1st Marsh, 1973; and of the country; and (c) the number of branch offices (c) whether any representation has working at various places of India been receiver] about difficulties created with individual staff strength vt each centre? by re-valuation and devaluation rf the currencies, from employees of any THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Embassy tie., and if so, from which MINISTRY OF HEAVY INDUSTRY area and the difficulties narrated (SHRI SIDDESHWAR P&ASAD): (a) therein? Yes, Sit. 5 7 Written Answer* CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 59

(b) April, 1870. The total number (c) if so, the technical body which of staff working with the Company examined it and what are its ob­ (including the staff working at Delhi servations9 and other branch/site offices) as on 1st March, 1973, was 174 THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF HEAVY INDUSTRY (c) The Company has four offices x>ne is located at Delhi, one at Kandla (SHRI SIDDESHWAR PRASAD)* (a) and two are located at Calcutta The Letters of intent have been fti anted to strength of staff m thes© offices is as such engineers as arc prepaied to follows take up the manufacture of cars based on completely indigenous design and without requiring import ot capital Staff Strength goods.

(1) Delhi office (including (b) Not yet, Sir. Faridabad and Naraina (c) Does not arise site offices 119

(ii) Regional office, Calcutta 13 Armed Forces assistance for maintain- ing Law and Order in Country (iii) Coke oven division, Calcutta 33 4180 SHRI BIRENDER SINGH RAO Will the Mimstei of DEFENCE

Total 174 (a) the number of occasions and the places of occurrence along w’th the names of authorities requesting for the Armed Forces assistance in Production of Cars by Unemployed En­ maintaining law and order situation gineers m various parts of the country,

4179. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (b) the mode of approach followed Will the Minister of HEAVY INDUS­ by the civil authoi ities and the instru­ TRY be pleased to state: ctions to comply with such a requisi­ tion? (a) what specific steps, if any, have been taken to give opportunity1 to THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE unemployed young engineers in the (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) During country to design and develop motor the calender yeui 1972 and the months car; ot January and February 1973, the Armed Forces were called out on 17 (b) whether the car designed and occasions for maintaihing law and fabricated by Shri Sanjay Gandhi has order Further details are given in t>een put to test; and Statement attached. $9 Written Answers MARCH 22, 1*7*, , ,Written &*

Statement Maintenance Of Law And Order 1972

SI. Place Date Authority riiifc No.

x Jaipur* Rajasthan. 22 and 23 Feb. 71 Home Deptt. of Govt of Rajasthan. •

a Various Districts in West 26 Feb. to 21 Mar. Govts, of West Bengal and Bibar. Bengal and Saharsa 72 and Pumea districts of Bihar.

3 Gulbarga, Mysore. 2 to 6 Mar. 72 Chief Secy. Govt, oi* Mysore

4 Muzaffarpur, Darbhanga, 4 to 12 Mar. 72 Adtdl. Secy. Govt, of Bihar. Saran, Patna, Gaya, Dhan- bad, Singhbhum and Ranchi Districts of Bihar.

5 Various districs of Mizoram. Mar. Apr. 72 Govt of India.

€ Mughalmrai, Uttar Pradesh. 20 to 24 May 72 Home Secy. Govt of UP, *• 7 Gauhati (Assam 9 to 13 Jun. 72 Deputy Commissioner, Kamrup

8 Siliguri, West Bengal. 25 to 27 Jun. 72 SDO, Siliguri

9 Cachar (Assam) . 28 & 29 Jun. 72 Distt. Commissioner, Cachar.

xo Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu 6 to xx Jul. 72 Home Secy. Govt, of Tamil Nadu.

XX Mokokchung (Nagaland). 18 and X9 Aug. 72 Deputy Commissioner, Moko- kchung.

12 Patna (Bihar) 7 to 25 Sep. 72 Chief Secy. Govt, of Bihar. 13 Various Districts m Assam 6 Oct to 12 Nov. 72 Joint Secy., Govt, of Assam. (Mongoldai, Dhubri, Gau- » hati & Tejpur). 14 Various districts in Punjab 7 Oct to 2nd Nov. 72 Chief Secys. Govts, of Punjab- & Haryana (Ludhiana, and Haryana. Moga & Jagraon.) 15 Nowgong (Assam;. 25 Oct to 12 Nov. 72 Deputy Commissioner, Nowgong. 16 Various Districts in Andhra 22 Nov (72 Chief Secy. Govt, of Andhra Pradesh. (aid continues Pradesh. to be provided). * 17 Silchar, Distt. Cachar, Assam. 13 to 29 Dec. 72 Deputy Commissioner, Cachar

Army assistance continues to he provided in various districts of Andhra Pradesh as mentioned in Serial No. 16 above. Apart from this, no AJpmy assistance was provided anywhere in India during 1973 fo r eonfcoUing' law and order situations. Oral Answ*r$ CHAITRA 1, 1805 (SAKA) Oral Answers f e

(b) The use of the Armed Forces (c) if so, whether during the pre­ in aid of civil authority is a function sent 25th year of Indian Indepen­ of the Central Government, and dence, Government will reconsider whenever possible the authority of the issue of desirability of bringing the Central Government for their back the remains of Bahadur Shah to employment has to be obtained. Red Fort with national honour; and 2. The maintenance of law and (d) if so, the steps proposed there­ order is the function of the civil about and if not the reason therefor? authority, and as far as possible, this must be done with the aid of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN resources available and with the re- THE MINISTRY OF EXTERAL enforeements that' can be obtained AFFAIRS (SHRI SURENDRA PAL from the Armed Police, the Central SINGH): (a) No official record is Reserve Police and BSF. If in the available. opinion of the civil authorities these forces are likely to prove inadequate (b) Yes, Sir. for this task, they may call the Arm­ ed Forces for assistance. The stage (c) and (d). The question of at which the civil forces will be re­ bringing bask the remains of Bahadur enforced by troops will be decided Shah has been considered and not by the local civil authorities in con­ found feasible for a number of sultation, if possible, with the Officer reasons. Government are informed Commanding the Ahned Forces. that according to the Ullemas, on religious grounds also, the transfer of the remain would not be proper 3 For maintenance of law and since an Amanat was not made at the order arid when time is short, a time of the original burial. Magistrate of the highest rank present may make a requisition direct Co th* nearest military authority located in his jurisdiction. The local military Retired High Officials o f Army Who authorities comply with such requisi­ Joined Private Business Houses or tions. These cases should be reported Public Undertakings to higher authorities immediately. 4182. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR: Will the Minister of Remains of Bahadur Shah DEFENCE be pleased to state the names of the Brigadiers, Major 4181. SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Will Generals, Lt. Generals, and Generals the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS of the Indian Army who have joined be pleased to state: service in Private business houses or public undertakings after their retire­ (a) whether Netaji Subhash Chan­ ment from the Army during the last dra Bose, as the President of the first three years? Free India Provisional Government pledged before the burial ground of Bahadur Shah near Rangoon, to take THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE back the remains of the leader of (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): Govern­ First War of Indian Independence in ment permission is required to be 1857 to Red Fort for reburial there, obtained by officers of the rank of after liberation of India; Colonel and above for accepting em- ployment before the expiry of two (b) whether a repeated appeal has years from the date the army service been made on the floor of the House ceases, m the following cases:— to bring back the remains of Bahadur Shah from the Burial ground near (i) Commercial employment in Rangoon; private undertakings; and 3963 L0»-3. Written Answers MARCH 22, vh£ * Written 64

(ii) employment in a civil post, (b) the reason* for fall, if in including a post under a cor. pr6duction and despatches and porate body owned or con­ increase, if any, Jn prices of coal; and trolled by Government, if an officer had been allowed to (c) the steps being taken to im­ retire prematurely at his own prove situation? request. Requisite informa­ tion is available only in THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN respect of officers falling THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND under the above categories, MINES (SHRI SUBODH HANSDA); and is given in the statement (a) Government have nationalised laid the Table of the only the Coking Coal Mines so far. House. [Placed in Libuary. As far as Non-Coking Coal Mines are See No. LT-4557/73.] concerned, Government have only taken over the management on 1st January, 1973. Propaganda Against India by Mrs. Bhutto on her Visit to China A statement indicating the produc­ 4183 SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Will tion and despatch of Coking Coal and the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS the Non-coking Coal Mines of Bharat ■be pleased to state: Coking Coal Ltd. during two months before and after the nationalisation (a) whether Mrs. Bhutto m her on 1st May, 1972 is placed on the Tecent official visit to China as head Table of the House. [Placed in of a Pakistani delegation, made viru­ Library. See No LT-4558/73.] lent propaganda against India on the issue of release of Pakistani P.OWs.; The information regarding price of and various grades of coal and Coke pro­ duced by BCCL two months before (b) if so, the steps taken by Gov­ and after nationalisation is being ernment to counter such anti-Indian collected and shall 'be laid on the propaganda by Pakistan? Table of this House.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (b) The production and despatch THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL have been more or less maintained AFFAIRS (SHRI SURENDRA PAL during two months before and after SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. nationalisation.

(b) Government have taken neces­ (c) Continuing efforts are being sary action to counter such Pakistani made to improve production and propaganda and to inform interna­ despatches of all varieties of coal tional opinion of the correct position. produced by BCCL.

Non-Utilization Vehicles and Spare Production and Prices of Coal before and After Nationalisation Parts Imported for Ordnance Factories. 4184. SHRI INDEB J. MALHOTRA: Will the Minister of STEEL AND 4185. SHRI R. S. PANDEY: MINES be pleased to state: SHRI M. C. DAGA:

(a) the production, despatch prices Will the Minister of DEFENCE be of different grades of coking end non- pleased to state: coking coal and also of hard-coke and soft-coke two months before and two (a) whether a large Quantity of months after nationalisation of coal motor vehicles and their parts import­ mines; ed from Bulgaria and Rumania for <3$ WriWeilAnswera CHAITRA 1, 18&5(SAKA) Wri^eh Answers 66

supply to v the Ordnance factories n.. v ■ -l. ‘ii * have not been found useful and are thgretote lying unutilised;

(b) if so, the particulars thereof 4187. : *PTT and the total money invested there­ fore; k £ ( ^ fTT f*F :

(c) the circumstances under which («f) the import of those motor vehicles % m *rrcMfrr *rcr st machines and their, parts was allowed arid which agencies imported them; MKd-^TTir^Sf if, infr and ft (d) whether any action has been % 'jfcjTT f TPFT Wnft* taken against the importers of the said machinery and the steps taken ^ irk fapf yTVR 5KT for their replacement or disposal by ^ f t | the Ordnance factories? ^ *jf*r *nff ^ »rf sfcc irar THE MINISTER OF STATE WT SF7TW (DEFENCE PRODUCTION) IN THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI VIDYA CHARAN SHUKLA): (a) to (*r) trnr tffW *rr (d). The question presumably relates to 3 Tori light trucks. As full informa­ tion is not available readily, it is ^TOfHT W VnNl^ «V i); sflT being collected and will be placed on the Table of the House. (*r) 5*r: 3Rrr%

Allotment of money for development % fm ^nsnrc ^ urn v& m i m f of Minerals in Tamil Nadu *rr ^ f*FT zfhprmf qr f^rrr vx

4186. SHRI S. A. MURUGANAN- THAM: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: w ifr ft («Npnftar*m) :(v) sfrc (w). ’ffwr wrr m & t (a) whether Government have allotted a large sum of money to T m w

(c) how far the pilot work in this qf^mcf qrt fnr *rf ijfa direction has been done? % jpST % flWT 1RRPT THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ? i p f 1 1 mrfw ^awncsfitjr t o r MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI SUKHDEV PRASAD): (a) to % fw | fa vrtvrf ?r (c). The information is being ^?r w * sr^r % wk, t o v f % 'Collected and will be laid on the iTable of the House. *nfa

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v w r g m ^sr if ^fr v r fW f %* 53% yfiffW 3TSTC % * 3 $T ^ q fw rf w r l*r?rf5T f^npf % •rPwrOf % ^ »rf | 1 w m f k 'w f / T ^ r f % % % %?[ *pf t sRPfr *fNV WRIT STRft t l v w r line “Between the Lines'* that the Soviet Union has refused to supply # w f *flt tfWt H # STTT MIG-23 to India; and arft *1% * vrrfefrer (b) if so, the reaction of Govern­ ftWf MWnf Tt swi* arft % fa t *«r ment thereon? <69 Written A tm o en CHAITRA 1, 1995 {SAKA) Written Answers jo

THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE war as retired or retiring Army, Navy (SHRI JAGJ1VAN RAM): (a) Gov- and Air Chiefs of Staff are available ernment has seen the report. The references in it to MIG-2 aircraft to the country whenever required? are factually incorrect. (b) Does not arise. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI Services of Retired/Retiring Chiefs J. B. PATNAIK): It is ensured that of Armed Force* the services of retired veterans of 4189. SHRI BANAMALI PATNAIK: war are available to the country by Will the Minister of DEFENCE be placing them on the Reserve. Details pleased to state the steps taken to en­ of reserve liability are indicated in sure that services of such veterans of the attached statement. ARMY Statement (0 Officers There is no reserve liability for Army Officers when they retire at the normal age of superannuation ; only in cues of premature retirement they have a reserve liability upto the date of attainment of the normal retirxnent age. (») OR After active service ranging from 10-18 years, an OR is placed in the reserve for a perid varying from 5 years to 3 years. m v y (0 Officers Officers in the Navy have a reserve liability only upto the age of 5$ years. Those who retire after this age have no reserve iia-

(tt) Sailors m On expiry of the period of active service, a sailor is held in the re­ serve for a period of 10 years or till attainment of the age of 42 years whichever is earlier. They may also be retained according to requirements in the reserve, upto the age of 47 years. AIR FORCE (0 Officers On retirement, Air Force officers have normally a liability to serve in the reserve for a period of 5 years. (u) Airmen Normally, Airmen on completion of active service period have a reserve liability upto 6-9 years. Marketing of Copper from Khetri 31,000 tonnes of copper metal per Project. annum. ^l 90. SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: Will the Minister of STEEL Taking over of Indian owned Loyalty AND MINES be pleased to state: Group of Companies la Ghana by, (a) whether the copper from the that Government public sector Khetri Project has en­ tered the market; and 4192. SHRI PILOO MODY: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (b) what is the present produc­ be pleased to state: tion and working capacity of the •plant? (a) whether Indian owned Loyalty Group of Companies in Accra THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (Ghana) have been taken over by MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES that Government; (SHBI SUKHDEV PRASAD): (a) No. Sir. (b) if so, the reaction of Govern­ ment thereto; and (b) The JChetri Copper Project is still in the construction stage and is (c) whether the management re­ expected to go into production in quested Government to intervene on «ar]y 1974. The estimated produc­ their behalf and if so, the steps taken tion capacity of the Plant will he by Government in this regard? Written Answers MARCH 22, 1973 Written Answer*

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tfHf *T Itfft’f WTWT V H W M I8W & Y OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS v M i m y i t f k (SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. 4194. «ft vm r^ w m : «f*cr (b) and (c). Government are in fWW lftT ^TT5T *njft ^ ^ f^T contact with the group of firms and *r$rfa“ : are collecting lull particulars of the take over including details of their (*>) wr vhraT ’srnff cfV^r assets and liabilities before taking up wfar w rft & %^?r sr^w f smr the matter in the proper quarters. | wfa ssrfWf vt ? 6i«fl ) aft i tit frrr (**) 5HH ^ SScTT t I : Mysoreans Employed in Bharat Flee- («p) ^ r r /SfHf $ trobi(& Ltd. 4195. SHRI A. K. KOTRASHETTI: WU1 the Minister of DEFENCE be ^ | ?nrr w m pleased to state: | tftx dtongflr* % (a) how many Mysoreans have im f tit TOTT T^TT been employed in Bharat Electronics Ltd., Bangalore both in executive and (*w) W ST*ft ^frrfcPTf if ?rrnvr non-executive cadres; and sr qr fe*TT ^trtt t; sflr (b) since the year 1968 till today how many engineers have been ap­ (*r) srr, eft w r a f a r «wr | pointed, and how many of them are ^ ^ % % r Mysoreans? t o r ^TRTT I ? THE MINISTER OF STATE (DE­ FENCE PRODUCTION) IN THE *PT sprck *rat («ft v g rw MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI * $ ) : (v ) % (IT). %*TT «rr VIDYA CHARAN SHUKLA): (a) and (b). The information asked for T ft| I is furnished below:

Total No. of No. of Category Employees Mysoreans

Non-executive ...... 11893 8451 E x e c u t i v e ...... JE003 485 No. of Engineers appointed in BEL since 1968 415 i?o participation By Government (a) whether Mysore Government In Chitradurga Copper Company has approached the Central Govern­ ment regarding the Centre-owned 4196. SHRI DHANRAO AFZAL- PtTRKAR: Will the Minister of Hindustan Copper Corporation tak­ STEEL AND MINES be pleased to ing a share in the Chitradurga Copper tfate: Company* so that the State Unit couldt 73 WtfVtofe Answers CHAITRA 1, 1895 ($AKA) Written Answers 74 exploit th^.de^oaite in Kalyadi in Increase in Prices of Cars HasSan district and Tintini in Gul- barga dfcrtrict; and 4199, D1&. H. P SHARMA: Will the Minister of HEAVY INDUSTRY (b) if so, the decision of Central be pleased to state: Government thereon? (a) whether the prices of Ambas­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE sador and Fiat cars were allowed to MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES be increased from January 1, 1973; (SHRI SUKHDEV PRASAD): (a) and (b). The State Government of (b) if so, the extent of increase Mysore has not approached the Cen­ permitted in ex-factory and retail tral Government The feasibility ©f prices; and Central Government’s participation in the equity capital of M/s Chitra- (c) the reasons therefor’ durga Capper Company, Mysore, is being examined m consultation with THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE the State Government. MINISTRY OF HEAVY INDUSTRY (SHRI SIDDHESBWAR PRASAD): (a) Yes, Sir. Improvement in Sino-Indian Relations (b) The extent of increase per­ mitted in the ex-factory retail price 4197. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: over the price prevailing on 31st December 1972 in each case is as SHRI H M PATEL- under; Ambassador Rs 272/- per car. Will the Minister of EXTERNAL Fiat 1100-P Rs 389/- per car. AFFAIRS be pleased to state: or Premier President (a) whether there are some indi­ cations to prove that the question of (c) As per decision of the improvement in Sino-Indian relations Supreme Court the prices of Ambas­ is under the consideration of China; sador and Premier President cars were allowed to be increased. (b) if so, the facts thereof; and

(c) the basis thereof? Industrial Licence given to Automo­ bile Products of India fur Manu­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN facturing Vehicles THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI SURENDRA PAL 4199 SHRI Y ESWARA REDDY: SiNGP),: (a). Yes, Sir. Will the Minister of HEAVY INDUS­ TRY be pleased to state. (b) and (c). The Chinese attended (a) whether the Automobile Pro­ our Republic Day Reception in Pek­ ducts of India has secured an indus­ ing a* a somewhat higher level and trial licence for 48,000 vehicle units thpy have recently sent a more senior a year; diplomat to head their Embassy in New Delhi. The Chinese officials and (b) whether the same company i* diplomats all over the world are given ‘Licences’ and ‘letters of intent’ showing a more normal attitude in for other items; and their contacts with their Indian counter-parta. (c) if so, the facts thereof? Written A n sw ers MARCH 22, 1*7* Written Anm m 76

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE tfnNr w b tv r n ix m MINISTRY OF HEAVY INDUSTRY (SHRI SIDDESHWAR PRASAD): : (v ) ( m ) .v m

Allotment of Scooter RUcshaws to WilVRVtzTRmff cTT&# Cycle Rikshaw Drivers on Priority- Basis

4200. SHRI Y. ESWARA REDDY: ? jfw r % « r y n r fMrar t i t antft Will the Minister of HEAVY INDUS­ TRY be pleased to state whether Gov- *r sftfocr v r •eroment have received any request *TTcft | 1 srrer % f t * frofr from the Punjab Government for fix­ ft % ing priority for Scooter-Rikshaws to be *rrerr % srrt *r tit$ *ftm t allotted to Cycle Rikshaw drivers who want to change their profession? tit t 1 THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF HEAVY INDUSTRY (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD): Short fall In Demand for Indigenously No such request has been received by Manufactured Tractors the Ministry. 4202. SHRI BHAGIRATH BHAN- tmn vt frosHii WAR: Will the Minister of HEAVY INDUSTRY be pleased to state: 4201. star v m faTOTWcTF%t i t f H T T f o r : (a) whether the tractor manufac­ turing units in the country are suffer­ ing a severe set back due to shortfall (V) ** 1973 *T STSTPT *T?ft ^ in demand; W It JtfTST % farfcHr (b) if so, whether one tractor manu­ facturing unit has gone out of pro­

(4) whether it is also proposed to (*) #,***«% m reduce multiple taxation of the indige­ nous tractors and the measures pro­ sftr faFfrar % qfiw u f t w t fiRjsflr posed to be taken for credit availabi­ lity to the farmers to get tractors ab- .sorbed in the Indian agriculture on large scale? w f t r t t o inrrow if toN * THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE f i r m * m m ) : (v)% MINISTRY OF HEAVY INDUSTRY (SHBI SXDDHESHWAR PRASAD): f^WEff % VTEf^T JTRft (a) and (b). There has been a decline % ftrtT tT^r v n rn w m tt fam in the demand for tractors due to which some tractor manufacturing w ^ i fR tt inww vnsrft % units have slowed down their produc­ tion. However, no unit has gone out

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE % : MINISTRY OF HEAVY INDUSTRY (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD): ( v ) f*rr fsrfaS¥ % The percentage of import content va­ ries not only from product to product wrx % ffwpsr srtf snr% but also from plant to plant depending on the stage of development of each (m) fr, wrfk vr plant. It has tapered down from 25 per cent to 20 per cent in the case of m i ', boilers already manufactured, from about 80 to 25 per cent for the Turbo Sets for Thermal Power Stations and (*r) fW fts r w r m f s from 30 to 20 per cent for Hydro v r fa n fa wfarr; Sets. ft Written Answers MARCH 2tf, IffTS Written A nsw er* 80 Import Indigenous Production and THE MINISTER OF SI(DE­ Demand for Tractors FENCE PRODUCTION) Ilf THE MI­ NISTRY 01* DEFENCE (SHRI VIDYA 4205. SHRI D, D. DESAI: Will the CHARAN SHUKLA): (a) The stand­ Minister of HEAVY INDUSTRY be ing Group of Ministers on Scfence and1 pleased to state: Technology have felt that Scientific and Technological Organisations (a) whether tractor manufacturers should evolve personnel practices suit­ have* represented to the Government ed to their requirements. Tjhey ac­ against importing of more tractors; cordingly, appointed a Sub-Committee and which has recommended that in future recruitment and promotion of Scien­ (b) the likely demand for trartors tists and Technologists of Defence Re­ in the next ten years, the indigenous search and Development Organisation capacity and production and the likely should be taken out of the purview of imports in that period? the UPSC and should be carried out by suitably constituted Selection THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Boards. MINISTRY OF HEAVY INDUSTRY (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD): (b) and (c). The matter is under (a) Yes, Sir. the consideration of Government.

(b) According to indications avail­ able from agencies engaged in work­ ing out demand projections, there is 4207 «& grot v * vertra : likelihood of annual demand ieaching the level of 80.000 tractors by 1978-79 WTC0 * 0 t The tractor manufacturing units set up *rr mm ^ a?n*r in the country will be able to meet ihe demand and imports may not be tit far w r S fcm z t c srfa w necessary. fatrffar wi siwre to tr : % f^rrrrcffar & ? Sfleqttoi** through Departmental Pro­ motion Committees («ft if^rrr) : ^ * 4206. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased tit ^ mm %trr (fafa*- to state: sresfk fwrer) srferfain*, 1&57 tit

(a) whether a suggestion has been fscfor v R f fi % *r<> 43 % t o t mooted by the Scientific Ad\iser to ft M t t v s sftr sfer I 1 the Defence Minister that in future selections should not be done by Utilization of Minerals in States U.P.S.C. but by Departmental Pro­ motion Committees; 4208. SHRI NARENDRA SINGH: SHRI HUKAM CHAND KACHWAI: (b) if so, whether this suggestion has been considered by Government; Will the Minsiter of STEEL AND and MINES be pleased to state whether there if any proposal of utilization of

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE erroneously incl^de^ in that list al­ MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES though he had opted for service with (SHRI SUKHDEV PRASAD): No, the British Government. These errors Sir. have been corrected. The corrected and complete list is laid on the Table List of Victoria Cross Winners of the House. 4209. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PA- (Placed in Library. See No. LT- RASHAR: Will the Minister cf DE­ 4559/73). FENCE be pleased to state: Indian Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen's (a) whether the list of 32 names, Boards who are the winners of Victoria Cross, supplied in answer to Unstarred Ques­ 4210. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PA- tion No. 945 in the Lok Sabha on the RASHAR: Will the Minister of DE­ 22nd February, 1973 is exhaustive and FENCE be pleased to state: includes the names of all those mili­ (a) whether the1 Indian Soldiers, tary heroes who won the highest gal­ Sailors and Airmen’s Board at all lantry award during the first and se­ India level and at the level of various cond World Wars; States are working satisfactorily in the (b) if so, whether L/Naik Lai of matter of assistance and welfare of 2/4 1st Dogra Regiment and of Tehsil ex-servicemen, the serving personnel Hamirpur (in the then District of and their families, if so, composition Kangra of Punjab) and now in Dist­ of the All India Board at present; rict Hamirpur of Himachal Pradesh (b) the number and names of Xunaj also won the Victoria Cross for his created for financing economic as well display of extreme courage and val­ as welfare activities as administered our on the 21st January, 1015; by the Board; (b) if so, the reasons for the omis­ (c) the amount of the money in the sion of his name; form of balance at hand in each one of these funds on the 31st December, (d) whether there are any more 1972; omissions of this type; and (d) the names and the status of the (e) if so, the complete list of the Secretaries of the State Boards for the award winners, with the dates of th«“ States of Jammu and Kashmir, Pun award, the Umts/Re giments to which jab, Himachal Pradesh, Haryana they belonged and their permanent Rajasthan and the Union Territory* addresses? of Delhi and Chandigarh; and THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (e) the status and emoluments of (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a). No, the Secretaries of the District S.SA. Sir. It had excluded those who had Boards in these States? migrated to Pakistan and those Nepalese Gorkhas who opted for ser­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE vice with the British Government. MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI J. B. PATNAIK): (a) Yes, Sir The (b) Yes, Sir. L/NK LALA was present composition of Indian Soldiers awarded the Victoria Cross on 21st Sailors, and Airmen’s Board as cons­ January 1916. tituted m 1963 and amended from (c) to (e). L/Nk. LALA died in time to time is at Statement I. The 1927. His name had erroneuosly been Board is being reconstituted. shown in the list of those who (b) and (c). The information is at migrated to Pakistan on partition of Statement II. the country and thus came to be omit­ ted. Apart from this, the name

States of J&K Punjab, H.P. Haryana, Rajasthan and the Union Territories cf Delhi and Chandiarh are given as be low:—

Name of the Name and Status of the Secretary of State Soldiers State Sailors and Airmen's Board

I&K . Col. Kanwal Singh (Retd.) Punjab . Shri R. S. Talwar, IAS, Chief Secretary to the Government of Punjab. He is working as Secretary of Punjab State SS&A Board, Chandigarh. HJP. . Shri N. C. Kaushal, Under Secretary to the Government of H.P. He is working as Secretary of H. P. State SS&A Board, Simla. Haryana . Lt. Col. R. D. Vasisht (Retd.) Rajasthan . Shri Beney Singh, Dy. Secy, to the Govt, of Rajasthan. He is working as Secretary of the Rajasthan State SS&A Board Jaipur. Delhi . There is no State SS&A Board in Delhi. Shri S. L. Arora Dy. Secretary (Irrigation & Floods), Delhi Administration, is res­ ponsible for looking after the work of Distt. SS&A Board, Delhi. Maj. U. R. Yadav is the Secretary of DSS & A Board, Delhi. Chandigarh . There is no State Distt. SS&A Board in Chandigarh. Dy. Com­ missioner, Chandigarh is responsible for the welfare of ex-service­ men, families of the serving soldiers and families of the deceased personnel.

(e) The State Distt Soldiers Sailors and Airmen's Board are working directly under the State Government and as such the information is not available readily. STATEMENT I Minister of Labour and Transport, Govt, of Andhra Pradesh. Members of the Indian Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen’s Board. Minister for Planning and Deve­ lopment, Statistics, Labour PRESIDENT Town and Country Planning Industries and Power (Elec­ MINISTER OF DEFENCE tricity), Govt, of Assam. MEMBERS Home Minister, Government of Gujarat Other Ministers in the Ministry Home Minister, Government of of Defence Mysore. Chief Minister of Jammu and Kashmir. Minister for Local Administration, Govt, of Tamil Nadu. Chief Minister of Kerala. Home Minister, Government of Chief Minister of Rajasthan. Orissa. Chief Minister of Panjab. Minister for Revenue, Gbvern- of UP. Chief Minister of Himachal Pra­ desh. Minister in charge of the Local Self Govt., Depit, Govt of Chief Minister of Haryana. West Bengal. 85 Written Answer* CHAITRA 1* 1895 (SAKA) W ritten AfMtoer* 86

SECRETARY Minister of State, General Admi­ nistration and Jails, Govern­ Secretary, Indian Soldiers, Sail­ ment of Bihar. ors and Airmen's Board. Deputy Chief Minister (Home), STATEMENT H Govt, of Madhya Pradesh. Shri U. N. Mahida. The Number and Names of funds created for financial, as well asi Shri Hem Raj. welfare activities as administered by the Board. Shri Onkar Singh. Hie following seven funds are being: Secretary, Ministry of Defence. handled by 1SS&A Board:— Chief of the Army Staff. (i) Special Fund for Reconstruc­ Chief of the Naval Staff. tion and Rehabilitation of Ex- servicemen. Chief of the Air Staff. Financial Adviser, Ministry of (ii) Central Post War Resettle­ Finance (Defence). ment Fund. Director General, Armed Forces (iii) Armed Forces Benevolent Medical Services. Fund. Director General of Employment (iv) Armed Forces Reconstruction and Training, Ministry of Fund. Labour and Employment. (v) Indian Solider’ Sailors and Director General, Resettlement, Airmen's Board Fund. Ministry of Defence. (vi) Flag Day Fund. Secretary General, Indian Red (vii) Indian Gorkha Ex-service­ Cross Society. men's Welfare Fund. Gen. K. M. Cariappa (Retd.) The amount of money in the Vice Admiral R. D. Katari (Retd.) form of balance at hand in each one A.V.MD.A.R Nanda (Retd.) of these funds on 31st December, 1972. Lt. General S.P.P. Throat (Retd.) Rear Admiral A. Chakraverti The cash balance (in the form of (Retd.) cash, fixed deposit and Bank Savings accounts) and also Government Secu­ Brig. Sherjang Thappa (Retd.) rities as on 31st December, 1972 held Shrimati E.W. Pinto. (Lady in respect of each fund are indicated Member). below:—

Name of Fund Amount Rs. Special Fund for R&R of ex-servicemen 1,86,26,925- 53 Central Post War Resettlement Fund 5>7i»850.97

Anntd Forces Recomtruction Fund . 05 Indian Soldiers, Sailor’s and Airmen,s Board Fund 18^349* *7

Indian Gorkha Ex-Servicemen . Welfare Fund • io*65*a95*3 fc7 Answers &ARCB 22, 1973 Written Answer* 88

Constitution and Compttsitlow ot (b) if so, whether the Bengal Advisory Coo^itte^^tor Territorial Chamber 61 Comtnerce arrf fai’dtostry had implemented the directives of the Government; ahd 4211. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PA- RASHAR: Will the Minister of DEF­ (c) if not, whether Government ENCE be pleased to state: contemplate to secure Bank Guarantee from the Chamber of Commerce for (a) whether the Advisory Commit­ ensuring implementation of the provi­ tees for the Territorial Army have sions of the statute and to safeguard been constituted for the various States the financial interests of the emp­ of tttcfta; loyees? (b) if so, the dates of the constitu­ THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND tion and the composition of these REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU­ committees for the States of Jammu NATHA REDDY): The Phrtrident and Kashmir, Him&chal Pradesh, Pun­ Fund authorities have intimated as jab and Haryana; and under:— (c) the number of meetings held (a) and (b). On 2nd March 1973, the by these committees in the case of Regional Provident Fund Commission­ each State during the last three years? er, West Bengal informed the Bengal Chamber of Commerce and Industry, THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Calcutta that the Chamber had been MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI J. covered under the Employees’ Provi­ B. PATNAIK): (a) Advisory Com­ dent Funds and Family Pension Fund mittees for the Territorial Army have Act, 1952 and the E.PF. Scheme been set up in all the States except framed thereunder with effect from 1st Jammu and Kashmir and Nagaland. August, 1972 and that both shares of There is, however, a common Advisory contributions payable frora the afore­ Committee for the State of Assam, said date should be deposited within a Tripura, Ranipur and Meghalaya. fortnight from the date of rcceipt of the letter. Compliance is awaited. (b) and (c). A statement is laid on the Table of the House. (Placed in (c) Does not arise at this stage. Library. See No. LT-4560/73). Quality of Material used by Contrac­ tors tor Defence Buildings at Amrit­ sar Cantt. Cpvetfrg of Employees of Bengal Chambers of Comnierce and Industry 4213. SHRI M KATHAMUTHU: under E.PJF. Act, 1952 Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state: 4212. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Will the Minister of LABOUR AND (a) whether defence buildings at REHABILITATION be pleased to Amritsar Cantonment were construc­ state: ted by contractors;

(a) whether the Regional Provident (b) whether they used inferior qua­ Fund Commissioner (Central) in West lity of sand and other materials; Bengal has directed Bengal Chamber of Commerce and Industry at Calcutta (c) whether any enquiry was made to cover their employees under the and the action taken against the con­ provisions of the Employees Provident tractors; Fund Act, 1952 and the Employees (d) the nature of the work at Family Pension scheme; Khasra Cantt? $9 Written Answers CHAITRA I, 1865 (SARA) Written Awfttfsr*. 90

TfHt ttn fcsa m OF 'DBS1WGB - THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE <(SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) to (d). MINISTRY Q f EXTERNAL 4FFAIRS The M&k&tkm Is lieihg collected and (SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH): Will tw placed on the Table of the (a) Government have seen press re- House. ports of recent statements made by President Bhutto in which prior re­ patriation Of the prisoners of war ahd Proposal tor Extension of Benefits of other preconditions have been laid be. Payment of Wages Act to Agricultu­ fore Pakistan can recognise Bangla­ ral Wotkers desh.

4214. SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU: (b) and (c). Government feel that Will the Minister of LABOUR AND this attitude of Pakistan can only fur­ REHABILITATION be pleased to ther delay normalisation of relations state: and establishment of durable peace in the subcontinent in terms of the Simla (a) whether there is any proposal Agreement. to extend the benefits of Payment of Wages Act to the agricultural work­ ers; and Facilities to Work-Charged Staff of (b) if so, the main features thereof? Dandakaranya Project THE MINISTER OP LABOUR AND REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU- 4216. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO: NATHA REDDY): (a) No, Sir. Will the Minister of LABOUR AND REHABILITATION be pleased to (b) Does not arise. state:

(a) whether the Workcharged staff Reported statement of Pak President of Dandakaranya Project have not regarding Recognition of Bangladesh been given the facilities like dress, conditioned to Repatriation of P.O.Ws. contributory provident fund, categori­ sation, 50 per cent permanency, child­ 4215. SHRI S. A. MURUGANAN- ren education allowance from 1958; THAM: (b) if so, the reasons therefor and SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD what action has been taken against MANDAL: the officer responsible for this lapse; and Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (c) whether the chowkidars, cooks, sweepers, security guards of Danda­ (a) whether Government’s atten­ karanya Project are forced to work tion has been drawn to the statement for more than eight hours and with­ made by Pakistan President that out weekly off, if so, the reasons Bangladesh’s recognition would be therefor? conditional to the repatriation of Pri­ soners of War; THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU- (b) if so^ the Government’s reac­ NATHA REDDY): (a) and (b). The tion thereto; and information is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the Sabha. (c) whether this recent statement is a departure froth the Simla spirit? (c) No, Sir. 91 Written Answer* MARCH 88, 1873 Written 4«M»et»

Transport Faculties to Employees of Setting op «f Steel M l « M Dandakaranya Project 4218. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOACAMGO; SHRI C. T. DHANDAPANI: 4217. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO: Will the Minister of LABOUR AND Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state; REHABILITATION be pleased to state: <*) whether India has decided to venture into the field of steel projects abroad; and (a) whether the employees of Dan- dakaranya Project are given vehicles (b) if so, whether India has decided on L.T.C. .only on medical ground to set up a steel plant in Iraq? when the relevant order of Govern* ment ol India did not impose such THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE condition, if so, the reasons therefor; MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES and (SHRI SUBODH HANSDA): (a) Yes. Sir, wherever feasible. (b) Engineering Projects ^ (India) (b) whether any order has been Ltd., a public sector organisation, has issued by the Government to treat submitted a tender for setting up a the journeys on tour in the Danda- small steel plant in Iraq during Feb­ karanya Project area as local jour­ ruary this year. No decision is yet neys and that the Employees Associa­ reported to have been taken by the tion has resented the said order on Government of Iraq about the award the ground that Dandakaranya Pro­ of the contract. ject is not covered by the said order, if so, whether the restrictions have been lifted, if not, the reasons there­ for? Revival of Peace Treaty between India and Nepal

4219. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO: THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND SHRI R. S. PANDEY: REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU­ NATHA REDDY): (a) No, Sir The Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state; employees of the Dandakaranya pro­ ject are given vehicles both on L.T.C (a) whether Indian and Nepalese and on medical grounds. Government have decided to revive the peace treaty between the two countries; and (b) General Orders were issued by Government in April, 1972, according (b) whether a fresh treaty has been to which the journeys between two signed, and if so, the broad outlines places falling within the qualifying thereof? limits of Project allowance, if admis­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE sible, should be treated as local jour­ MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS neys. The employees of the Dandaka­ (SHRI SURENDjBA PAL SINGH): ranya Project automatically come Indo-Nepal Treaty of Peace and under the purview of these orders. Friendship of 1950 has been in opera­ They have, however, resented these tion ever since it was signed. There orders and the matter whether the is, therefore, no question of reviving Dandakaranya Project should be that treaty. exempted from the provisions of these orders is under active consideration. (b) Does not arise. 9 3 Written Answers CHAITRA 1, 1896 (SAKA) Written Answer* 94 Pale, proposal for xeleaae of is the liberalised pensionary award B e n g a lis which consists of the last pay drawn in the case of JCOs/ORs and 3|4th of 4220. DR, RANEN BEN ; Wttl the the pay of the rank held at the time Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be' of death of the officers in the case of pleased to state: their widows. These awards have been sanctioned in all the eligible (a) whether Pindi proposes to send cases. In addition, free education upto back 10,000 Bengalis to Bangladesh; the first degree level, including cost and of books and stationery, uniforms, where compulsory, and boarding/ (to) whether the P.O.Ws\ issue Is lodging charges in educational insti­ being discussed with Bangladesh by tutions recognised by the Government Government in view of the new de­ has been allowed for the children of velopments? those killed. Entitlement Cards in respect of the eligible children those THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in Rajasthan have been issued for MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS availing of these facilities. (SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH): (a) Government are aware of Pakistan having sent a list of nearly 15,000 per­ As far as employment assistance is sons of Bangladesh origin, mostly concerned, preferences have been ex­ families of destitutes and ncm-offlcials, tended in employment upto two de­ to the Bangladesh Government with a pendents of the deceased servicemen view to their eventual repatriation to including widows. Arrangements Bangladesh. have also been made for assistance in carrying out self-employment schemes (b) Government are constantly in and vocational training where the touch with Bangladesh Government on widows desire to avail of such facili­ this and other related issues. ties. These two sets of concessions are being operated through different Ministeries and Organisations of Cen­ Rehabilitation and assistance given to tral Government, State Governments War-Widows of Rajasthan and Public Sector Enterprises,both of the Centre and the State Govern­ 4221. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE ments. In Rajasthan, all the widows SHARMA: Will the Minister of DE­ and dependents of those killed have FENCE be pleased to state: been allotted 25 bighas of land each. The requests for employment/self-em­ (a) whether rehabilitation ,and pro­ ployment/vocational training are re­ vision ol necessary assistance and help latively few and are being processed. to the war widows in Rajasthan is far below the target fixed for this purpose, if so, the reasons therefor; Prices of Stainless Steel In India as compared with those in West Germany (b) the steps being taken by Gov­ ernment to provide all necessary help 4222. SHRI B. S. BHAURA: Will the to such widows; and Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: (c) the time by which all such widows will be provided with neces­ (a) whether the Indian stainless sary work and jobs? steel is cheaper than the West Ger­ man stainless steel; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI J. (b) whether in case less nickel is B. PATNAIK): (a) to (c). The main Used in stainless steel, the prices can element in the rehabilitation scheme be further reducedj and s m l s —4 95 W ritten Answers MARCH 22, 1978 W ritten A n fttm (c) whether Government are con­ ducting any .research to this eftect?

THE n m m MINISTER IN THE (b) whether Govemmeat ate fur­ M t N i S W P t « 8 S t . AND MINES (SHRI SU&ODH HANSDA): (a) ther that (tor* is a strong Prior to the recent increase in customs possibility of these hatdw&re and duties stainless steel sheets and plates planes percolating to Pakistan; and have been imported from West Ger­ <«) if m, what action is taken or is many at prices lower than the domes­ proposed to be taken by Government tic prices for similar items at that to deal with this contingency? time. THE MINISTER Q? DEFENCE (b) Yes, Sir. (JSHfcl JAGJtVAN RAM): (a) Gov­ ernment are aware of recent purchas­ es of military equipment from the (c) Research on producing cheaper United States by Iran. sta&less steels which are also accep­ table to consumers is continuing at (b) and (c). U.S. Legislation and the National Metallurgical Laboratory, Executive Instructions prohibit coun­ Jamshedpur. tries acquiring arms from the United States ft*dm transferring them to third Setting up a Corporation for Rehabili­ countries. When reports of such tation after retirement of Armed transfers have come to Government's Forces Personnel notice, suitable action has been taken in the appropriate quarters. Govern­ 4223. SHRI B. S. BHAURA: Will ment are alive to such possible per­ the Minuter of DEFENCE be pleased colation of military equipment to to state: Pakistan and Continue to watch the situation closely. (a) whether the ex-officers of arm­ ed forces propose to set up a corpora­ Suggestion for creation of Indian tion for their rehabilitation after re­ Ocean Fleet by India tirement; 422S. SHRI SHANKERRAO SA­ (b) whether these retired officers VANT: submitted a plan for approval to Gov­ SHRI DHARAMRAO AFZAL- ernment; and PURKAR: (c) if so, the outlines thereof? Will the Minister of DEFENCE be THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE pleased tb state!: MINISTRY OP DEFENCE (SHRI J. (a) whether Admiral Nanda former B. PATNAIK): (a) to (c). No Chief df Naval Staff has recently sug­ such proposal has been received from gested the creation of an Indian Ocean the retired officers of the Armed For­ Fleet by India; ces. Cb) if so, what is the connotation of Purchase of Military Hardwares by such a Fleet and what i$ will comp­ 1 Iran Awrit &S.A. rise of; and 4224. SHRI SHANKERRAO SA­ (c) the reaction of Government to VANT: th* said sofcgestfah? SHRI SAMAR OUHA: Will the Minister of DWCNCE be THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE pleased to state: (SHRI JACRHVAN RAM): (a> No, Sir. (a) Whether Government are aware t&at Iran bas purchased military hard- (b) and (O. Do not arise. 97 Written Aruooers CHAITRA 1, 1808 (SAKA) Written A nsw ers 98

Bringing of entire Coal Mining Indn*- Chairman tty writer f«U ie Sector 1. J&jri X G Kumaramangalam, 4226. SHRI fcr^S&GADEB: Custodian General of the Coal Mines. SHRI P. XI MEHTA: Members y/m the Minister of STEEL AND 1KIINES be leased to state: 2. Shri R. C. Dutt, Chairman, In­ dustrial Reconstruction Cor­ (a) whether entire coal mines indus­ poration of India Ltd. try would pe brought under the pub­ . Shri K. S R Ci»eri, Chief Tech­ lic sector; and 3 nical Adviser, Department of (b) if so, the time by which this Mines. process will be completed? 4. Shri S. B Lai, Joint Secretary, Department of Mines. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 5. Shri P K. Ghosh, Coal Con­ {SHRI SUBODH HANSDA): (a) and troller and Chairman, Coal Cb). All the Coking Coal Mines in the Board. country, except the captive mines of 6. Shri H. B Ghosh, Director Gen­ the steel plants, have been national­ eral of Mines Safety, Ministry ised w.e.f. 1st May, 1972. Some of ihe of Labour and Rehabilitation. coal mines are already in the public sector, which are being managed by 7. Shri R J. T. D’Mello, Chief La­ National Coal Development Corpora, bour Commissioner, Ministry of tioh and Singareni Collieries Com­ Labour and Rehabilitation. pany Ltd. The management of the remaining non-coking coal mines, has 8. Shri R Srinivasan, Chief Ope­ been taken over by Government re­ rating Superintendent, Eastern cently, pending their notification, Railway. under the Coal Mines (Taking over *of Management) Ordinance, 1973. Handpgf o?«r Mining Machine* to National Mineral Development by Advisory Board for Nationalised Coal Bharat Earth Movers 4228. SBm D K. PANDA: SftRI RAJDEO SINGH. 42$7. SHRI RAM PRAKASH. Will Hie Minister of STfcEL AND MINES Will the Minister of DEFENCE be he pleased to state: pleased to state:

(a) Whether Government have since (a) whether the feharat Earth Mov­ «et up advisory board for recently ers is going to handover mining taken over non-coking coal mines; and machines to the National Mineral Development Corporation; and (b) If so, the composition and function of this board? Cb) if so, the main features there­ of? rm DEPUTY MINISTER IN th e 1 • FtY OF STEE?L AND MINES . .THE MINISTER OF STATS (DEP- ___ (ai and m m PRODUCTION) IN. THE MIN­ res. % M l ISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHHI VIDYA titu^d ft* Cpel Mines AdviSofer CHARAN SHUKLA): (a) and tt>). t f/ m w e fotfowttg members fb Bharat Earth Movers limited do not Cttftb&in general ta m manufacture any mining machines as t a t t&fe llk in over ndfr» ittch but they art producing heavy earth-moving e&iftfitoent of varfcrtis 99 W ritten Answers MARCH 22, 1973 Written Answers io O types some of which is also used by Setting up of « Pig Iron Plant to mining undertakings. The National Haryana Mineral Development Corporation has been obtaining their requirement of 4230. SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH the earthmoving equipment of the fol­ MALIK: lowing types by purchase from Bharat SHRI BIRENDRA SINGH Earth Movers Ltd: RAO: Will the Minister of STEEL AND (1) Bulldozers of type D80A-8, MINES be pleased to state: D120-6 and D120A-18; (a) whether Government propose to establish a pig iron plant in the pub­ (2) Bumpers of type 35-Ton and lic sector m Mohinder Garh District of 50 Ton; Haryana where rich iron ore has been located, and (3) Motor Graders; and (b) whether Government propose to develop an industrial complex around (4) Scrapers. Narnaul where iron ore is available and nearby Khetri town where Cop­ per Corporation of India has taken Increase in Pension of Ex-Servicemen up the work? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 4229. SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES MALIK: (SHRI SUBODH HANSDA): (a) No such proposal is under consideration at present SHRI BIRENDRA SINGH RAO: (b) We have no information about any such scheme. Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state: Pak. Found Guilty by L C R. C 4231. SHRI P. GANGADEB (a) when the last increase in the pension of Ex-Servicemen was made, SHRI P. M. MEHTA: and Willthe Minister of EXTERNAL. AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (b) the time by which the further increase in the pension of ex-semce- (a) whether Government have re­ men will be made and the amount ceived a message from the I* C. R.C. involved therein? on the 15th January, 1973 that Pak­ istan has been guilty of something other than distorting its reports; THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) The (b) if so, an account thereof, and last increase in' the pension of Ex- servicemen (excluding reservists) was (c) Government’s reaction thereto?' made on 1st March, 1070 when the minimus pension was raised to Rs. 40 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN per%month. THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAI* AFFAIRS (SHRI SURENDRA PAX* SINGH); (a) tp

.some cases the general meaning was Exploitation of plantation workers of altered. In the said message I.CR.C. India* origin in Sri Lanka also indicated that they had made strong representations to Pakistan against the latter’s misuse of I.C.R.C. 4233. SHRI DHARAMRAO reports. AFZALPURKAR:

Establishment of Research Units tn Will the Minister of EXTERNAL various Offices AFFAIRS be pleased to state: 4232. DR. LAXMINARAIN PAN- DEYA:

SHRI JAGANNATHRAO (a) whether most of the people of JOSHI: Indian origin in Sri Lanka are unlet­ tered workers on plantations and are Will the Minister of LABOUR AND often harassed by officials and ex­ REHABILITATION be pleased to state: ploited by unscrupulous men who ex­ tort money from them by promising (a) whether the various attached to circumvent the red tape; and and subordinate offices as well as the Department of Labour and Employ­ ment have established Research Units; (b) if so, whether Government pro­ pose to advise the Indian High Com­ (b) if so, the main purpose of the mission to depute some of its officials Labour Bureau; to help them fill the necessary forms and otherwise cope with the cumber* some bureaucratic proceedure? (c) whether it is proposed to merge All the various Research Units to coordinate activities and thus reduce the overlappings and unnecessary THE MINISTER OF STATE IN duplication of work; and THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI SURENDRA PAL (d) whether any steps are proposed SINGH): (a) and (b). Stateless per­ to be taken to organise a well knit sons of Indian origin have been given Labour Research Bureau by coordina­ clerical and other facilities at estates ting all the various units scattered all by their employers to assist them to ■over the country? apply for citizenship either to the In­ dian High Commission or to the Gov­ THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND ernment of Sri Lanka as the case may REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU­ be. The Indian High Commission and NATHA REDDY): (a) to (d). The the Sri Lanka authorities have been Labour Bureau is mainly engaged in cooperating in devising simplified do­ the collection and compilation of Lab­ cumentation and procedures. The our statistics and other related studies Indian High Commission also provides •covering Working conditions, wages, assistance at its offices in Kandy and industrial disputes etc. Some of the Colombo to persons applying for In­ other organisations under the de­ dian citizenship. There is also a repre­ partment also from time to time sentative of the Indian High Com­ take up studies of problems relevant mission at Talaimannar, the point to their fields of competence. Care is of exist, to help repatriates in filling taken to e&sure that there is no over­ up various forms and to ensure their lapping or duplication of effort. smooth departure for India. X03 Written A nsw ers MARCH 22, 1973 Written A n sw ers iO*

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( * ) 1 9 7 0 - 7 1 lrtT 1 9 7 2 (a) whether any efforts have been $*wrwnr ***£•#, ft^Rwrewt initiated By E&ptifcn -Gofcsmment to consultation with Yugoslavia a&d In­ W T vFTPflT WWPIT ^3V P f WT • dia fbr &e so-called non-aligned a?ds; (b) if so, the specific moves made in that direction; and

fFTm iftr t o waww *f « # (c) the Iprospedts of the formation (** fi^tswrt) s (*) M. of a non-aligned powers' organisa­ tion? an^ rd srrcr tfr arr | wh: sfaT THE MINISTER OF STATE IN

WT8T Z^T (c) While 'the non-aligned countri­ es have bfeen meeting from time to 1971-72 . 45 time over the past few years at vari­ ous levels, including three meetings at 1972-73 . 43 the Summit level, there is no move to institutionalise the Non-aligned Gro­ {*rfST 1972%^*^, 1973) up in the form of a norf-aligned pow­ ers' organisation.

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ftwt m ***** % *f$- 4957. DR. H. SHARMA: WUlthe *rrc 1975 d * w Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: 7 9 w w 2^T $>ft i W Ft ft («) whether at the Annual SfesWn fW d q*V *tf*r 8 stRtsrt of the Asian-Africans Legal Consulta­ tive Committee recently held in N$fr i i 972—73 ^ * n * r Deifti, Uadis’* refcreeentatiVet pleaded w r 62 srrar z * sftr 19 7 3 -74 *r tor a fairer and more equitable frame- wwfc Me Ufe OTSWfeio*

f India’s W i f SINGH): (a) Some countries friendly toPakistan have jMpportedttsstaAti THE MINISTER OF STAtfE IN on the subject. “THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI SURlNDftA PAL SINOtt): (a) Yes, Sir At the 14th^An­

Propaganda against India for release (b) whether some smaller mines •of P.O.Ws. by some foreign countries have been left out; and togetherwitlifakistan (c) whether the production of coal 4258. SH£I SAMAR GUHA: has increased Or desreasea after Gov­ SHRI SHIV KUMAR ernment’s decision to take over coal SHA6TRX: mines? Will th* Minister Of EXTERNAL -AFFAIRS be pleased to state: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINIS (a) whether some foreign countries (SHRI SUBODH HANSDA): Ca) and > eve joined hands with Pakistan to (b ), AXL coal mines, Accept those making propaganda against India on which are captive to private iron and iHte' issue of releaa* of PO.Ws; still tfftnts, have bein takeover by Government. (b) if so, thenattare and facts about *ttcfc smtl-Indian trade; and (c) Production has increased after ■ Government take over of ^ management of ; *gatost suchpro*aganda? ■: ■ the mines. X»3 Written Answers MARCH 22, 1978 Written Anther# ftn iw s of «xl«tti!g naiufcmcRig used typtoff K U tM H iM a of Coal TrfW urorffq*** w Tf 4260. SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Will swffsw Trfwvt era *r the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: wwirfq&tf »rf $ wtf trrator ffon- (a) whether the services of the fa * TO'sP* 5TRT 9*90 KT9 3* existing management of the coal *PJ*Tlf?RT ft*TT TOT 1 1 mines have been used for running the new coal mines; and ( * ) f w (d) the number of persons employ­ ed as custodians of the coal mines s f t *r wwfawT 1 1 from NCDC as well as from the pre­ vious managements of the coal mines? Acquisition of Agricultural Land foy~ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Anny in Rewa District MINISTRY OP STEEL AND MINES (SHRI SUBODH HANSDA): (a) Yes, Sir. 4262. SHRI RANABAHADUR. SINGH: Will the Minister of DE­ (b) Amongst the persons appointed FENCE be pleased to state: as Custodians of the taken over non. cocking coal mines, there are 50 per­ sons from National Coal Development (a) whether good agricultural lanu Corporation Ltd. No Custodian has has been acquired by the army in Kai­ been appointed from the officers of mar ranges of Rewa District for its the taken over mines. use; and

(b) the reasons for sucn action when plenty of unculturable land was 426i. flfarc wrm available in the same area?

THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) and (b). w t There is no propo&nl to acquire any qft fnrr ^ f t : land in Rewa Distrcr for us«* by the Army as ranges. However, it is ( v ) t o t «n*ff proposed to notify ar* area in the* Hill tracts of Kaimar Ranges of Rewa % fw zw % w r district, in consultation with the lo­ cal authorities of the State Govern­ ( « ) *?r % fcrcrtr tft ment under the “Manoeuvres Feild Firing and Artillery Practices Act, w fm i tojtt srrn vmrft 1938”. The exact boundaries of the area to be notified are yet to be fin­ snr | ? alised between the Military and the State Government authorities. The Act f^n?r «fbc w tw i h m w $ s t o w * provides sufficient safeguards for en­ («ft w *i«r stcct* ): (*) ^ suring that least dislocation is caused to the local population and generally T raw r % an area with least cultivation and habitation is aequirel. The suggestion srnfh, s te m , ^ ‘,nTT of the Hon'ble Member will be tak­ en into account, as far as possible, iw junc, wrfwx, ^ $ fixing the boundaries of the area to* naoo *it*w *

Payment to Bewrvteto W Ifsww * n # (aft v. 4263 SHRI RANABAHADUR tte w w ) (*) sftw^ 1 SINGH DR H P SHARMA (v ) tfk (*t) WT ^ 3S& I

Will the Minister of DEFENCE be ^tft srfavf * ijftt pleased to state: (a) whether reservists of the Indian 4265 ^Tl^rw Army are receiving only Rs 10 per ift* ^ f^rr month, and f a ? (b) whether any steps are contem­ plated to review this payment in ( f ) TOTTOTpr % ^TTPT 3TS# view of the steAp inflation in the ftr ^ ^ fir sffrw ^rFfr *r country’ wrpr «PT% *T*r s rfw t % %rpT THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRr JAGJIVAN RAM) No, Sir jfriRT *RTf I , The existing rate of retaining fee admissible to reservists dunng the (*j) W *R3>TC * peuod of their reserve liability is % srfWa^ft % Tcnm Rs 20/- per mensen § star sfr^r ^sttt I fsrm fa. wft (b) The structure of emoluments, including benefits m cash and kind TTf^r ftr&T , sftr and death-cum-retirement benefits, of Armed Forces personnel aie already (*r) *rfe ^r, eft szrm tot under examination by the Third Pay Commission, whose Report is await­ ed «h: inrwr if wnft

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(« ) 5WT *TF? THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU- | ; NATHA REDDY): (a) and(b), Gov­ ernment recognise the need for (*r) t o r ^ *ptt *r%- organising the unorganised workers flWT I ? in the country. Government have no proposal in hand in this connec­ fw w w fcft tion. («ft 5*rer) : (v) ft (n) . Expenditure on sampling of diamonds by N.M.D.C. wpff % w w % f # r

% srr^ t o t ( 3>> sto-sto 4270. SHRI AMBESH: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be qr ^ srrccr §rr | j pleased to state: **£% to farsr $ srrt 3 sri^rtr (a) the total funds available to the National Mineral Development Cor­ *TPft f , ^TRT ^ «T2TT f , fTCT. *& poration Ltd. and fr ^rr TOft (b) the progress madp an^ the ex­ penditure incurred thereon so far for sampling of diamonds in order to Decoration of Officers in Indo-Pak prove more resources? Wax 4267. SHRI B. V. NAIK: Will the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to MINISTRY OF STTJEr, AND MINES state: OSHRI SUBODH HANSDA) (a) The total paid up capital of NMDC as on (a ) the total number of officers de­ 22-3-73 is Rs 76 04 crores. In addi­ corated in the recent Ir,do-Pakistan tion, the outstanding loan as on war m the Eastern and Western Com­ 22-3-73 is Rs. 18 81 crores. mands respectively; and (b) of the above how many weie (b) The information is being col­ of the rank of Brigadier and above lected and will be la«d on the Table In the two respective Commands’ of the House. (THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): VT VWCT («) Eastern Command . 1,041 4271. wsrm wnrw : m i Westfl.cn Command . . . 1,825 *m 1ft* g*rafar srtt* f t t Q>) Eastern Command 58 Western Command 72 Organising of unorganized labour (*) sprr

(ST) ¥TT 3PT T O l f # f»TT^V (b) if so, whether Government con­ ducted any survey of this area from ’STCWT 100 150 cW the point of view of their exploita­ tion, and t o % w rtnc ^T^rrfcr *t%t *raT-*re*r (c) if so, when’ qr Tsft ssnftft 7 THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE W Tft* JVlfa *T3ft (*ft ’ttjwm MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI SUKHDEV PRASAD) (a) ( * ) t i t * (sr) f ? r 19 No, Sir

^ w t I jT> wfqfhr A X < & izr* WTTWf (b) and (c) Occurrence of copper- lead-zinc mineralisation has been *r *ftr aft qfirsnr qrf^wpr ?r located by Geological Survey of India m Askot, Pithoragarh district of UP % Wtvr^lT *ftT WFFTT f^Fft ^ *?7% % Geological Survey of India are earn­ f^ p f s rk t o t 1 ing out detailed investigation of this prospect since March, 1970 It is too t^ol^f«qVo % 7 q^o^oqto % $fa early to say anything about the eco­ nomic viability of this occurrence w fa $ t *r£ «fr 1 $ r 19 ^rrfbft ^t

f w ^ r w m ,T^r tt fszrr *m 1 1 Meeting of Foreign Ministers of “A S E.AJV ” in Malaysia [* * ro n r w twtt w*tt 1 n w 4274 SHRI RAJEO SINGH Will the L T 4562/73] Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state* (a) whether the Foreign Ministers Targets of annual production of of Association of South East Asian NCDC Nations (A S E A N ) met in Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia on the 15th 4272 SHRI DHARAMRAO AFZAL February this year and decided to PURKAR WiU the Minister of STEEL keep away powers outside South- AND MINES be pleased to state the East Asia including India and Pakis­ targets of National Coal Development tan from any of the activities of five- Corporation’s annual production’ nation grouping in connection with the stabilisation of peace m this THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE region; MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI 15UBODH HANSDA) The tar­ (b) whether these five nations have get of production of National Coal acted of their own and branded India Development Corporation for 1973-74 as the peace disturber m *hat region, is 18 million tonnes and (c) the leaction of Government thereto’ Survey for copper and lead deposits THE MINISTER OF STAJ® IN THE in Garhwal and Knmaoa Regions MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL* AFFAIRS 4273 SHRI NARENDRA SINGH (SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH)- BISHT Will the Minister of STEEL (a) The Foreign Ministers of ASEAN AND MINES be pleased to state countries met m Kuala Lumpur m Malaysia on the 15th February, 1978 (a) whether vast deposits of copperNo such decision has come to Govern­ and lend ores are found in UP in ment’s notice According to the Press Garhwal and Kumaon regions; Statement issued m this connetion. 131 Written Answers MARCH 22, 1973 Written Answers

'"Hie meeting was firmly of the view agenda of the current session of the that a lasting peace in Southeast Asia Conference. However, it should be can be achieved through the develop* mentioned that the use in war of ment of mutual trust and understand­ chemical weapons (as that of biologi­ ing among the countries in the region. cal weapons) has already been for­ It was therefore necessary for these bidden by the Geneva Protocol of countries to come together and to dis­ 1925. cuss matters of vital interest and mutual concern. In this connection, (c) We are aware that a number of the meeting recognises the desirability countries are manufacturing and of convening a conference of all stockpiling chemical weapons. How­ Southeast Asian nations to serve as an ever, it would not be in the public Asian forum at an appropriate time in interest to reveal their names. the future.” (b) No, Sir. Pak Protest against Customs Duty on Private Gift Parcels for P.O.Ws. (c) Does not arise. 4276. SHRI D B. CHANDRA international Disarmament Conference GOWDA: SHRI M. M. JOSEPH: 4275. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH’ Will Will the Minister of DEFENCE be the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS pleased to state: be pleased to state: (a) whether Indian Government has (a) whether India is the member clarified its position regarding the of the International Disarmament Pakistan's protest in respect of the Conference; Customs duty on Private Gifts parcels for war prisoners; and (b) whether the Conference is meeting in Assembly Hall in Geneva (b) if so, the nature thereof? from the 20th February, 1973 with two important items on agenda, THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE namely, ban on undergroimd nuclear (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) Yes, tests and prohibition of development, Sir. manufacture, storage and use of (b) General orders exempting from chemical weapons; and customs duty the gift parcels received by the Pakistani Prisoners of War (c) the countries known for storing already exist. and manufacturing the chemical weapons? U.N.D.P Assistance for Rehabilitation of War Victims THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 4277. SHRI D. B. CHANDRA (SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH): GOWDA: Will the Minister of (a) Yes, Sir. India is a member of LABOUR AND REHABILITATION be the Conference of this Committee on pleased to state: Disarmament (CCD). (a) whether United Nations Deve­ (b) Yes, Sir. The new session of the lopment Programme has financially Conference is being held as usual in assisted Pakistani persons affected in the Palais des Nations in Geneva. Indo-Pak War for their rehabilitation; The question of a ban dn underground Ob) if so, the particulars thereof; nuclear weapon tests and the prohibi­ and tion of the development, manufacture £nd stockpiling of chemical weapons (cy whether similar request was are two of the important items on the also made by Indian Government to 133 Written Answers CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 134 the United Nations Development Pro­ (b) if so, the reaction of the Gov­ gramme; if so, with what result? ernment? THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU- REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU- NATHA REDDY): (a) and (b). Gov­ NATHA REDDY): (a) to (c). The ernment have noted the suggestions information is being collected and will which appeared m the pr^ss recently. be laid on the Table of the Sabha as soon as received. Bombay Industrial Relations (Gujarat Amendment) Bill

Jobs to registered Ex-servicemen 4281. SHRI D. D DESAI: Will the Minister of LABOUR AND REHABI­ LITATION be pleased to state: 4279 SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD VERMA: Will the Minister of DE­ (a) whether Government of Gujarat FENCE be pleased to state: has agreed to consider the Bombay Industrial Relations (Gujarat Amend­ (a) the total number of disabled ment) Bill; and seivicemen registered for employment (b) if so, the points on which the during the year 1971-72; and Central Government have advised the State Government? (b) the total number amongst them provided with suitable -employment? THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND REHABILITATION (SHRI (RAGHU- NATHA DEDDY): (a) Yes, Sir. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISnFtY OF DEFENCE (SHRI J. B. (b) It will be appreciated that it is PATNAIK): (a) and (b). It appears not possible to indicate the nature of that information has been sought re- such advice on the floor of the House. gaidmg the number of disabled per­ sonnel among all the ex-servicemen Vjtrm f w «r> who registered for employment and 4282. TTRTyfftt : TOT were found jobs during 1971-72 This information is not readily available «wr gswrfa ^ o t as separate figures are maintained only regarding those disabled service far : personnel who have been invalided out of service for disability suffered ( * 0 TOT vTafaSW % STfRTC in actual operations. wrRwrt q* srRt *r

Ingredients for bringing about indus­ trial peace irfwrc

4280. SHRI RAM BHAGAT PAS- (S ’) TOT qrgqrgffi- WAN: Will the Minister of LABOUR tnis m r ftt AND REHABILITATION be pleased to state: 1 700 ferr wr srfc (a) whether Government’s atten­ tion has drawn to Shri Naval Tata’s (»r) sr, ^ tot % address to Lions Club of Bombay wherein he enunciated twelve neces­ swt ?n=^r*1 vfrii vr tot vrtsnrf sary ingredients to bring about indus­ trial peace; and W& m f^RTT I ? Written Answers MARCH 22, 197a Written Answer* 136

sm aft sswfa iftft («ft Tf*rm cific requirements ol the dry industry which the indigenously produced : (*») arnj 1 ( 3), 20 32 material doe8 not fulfil. vi1 «F6ff % ssrSZrEftW, VpRTH nftr- (b) The annual imports of manga­ nese dioxide milled for dry cell pri­ foPT, 1965, T* ^T^^tcfT I I mary batteries during the last five years is as follows: (sr) sflrc (*r). ^ fw c irwrar: tpht » m t f m n yrgn | i Quantity Value Year (in tonnes) (in Rs. *ooo) Production of manganese dioxide for dry cell industry 1967 . 5398 3434 4283. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHAS- 1968 . 7263 4986 TRI: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: 1969. 7922 5319 (a) whether India is still importing 1970 . 5368 5018 manganese dioxide required for the 1971 ■ 7285 4705 dry cell industry; (b) if so, the quantity and value of (c) and (d). M/s. Union Carbide manganese dioxide import at present; Ltd. are already operating a plant for (c) whether there is ai*y proposal the production of electrolytic manga­ to produce manganese dioxide in the nese dioxide at Thana in Maharashtra country; and if so, the main features with an installed capacity of 2,500 thereof; and tonnes per annum. The production from this plant during 1972 was 1,054 (d) the estimated cost of the pro­ tonnes. The party has sought ap­ posal? proval to expand their installed capacity to 5,000 tonnes per year THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE which is being examined by the Gov­ MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES ernment. (SHRI SUBODH HANSDA): (a) Yes, Three letters of intent have recently Sir. The import of manganese dioxide been issued to the following parties (milled for dry cell primary battery) subject to the condition that indigen­ is necessitated on acocunt of the spe­ ous technology should be utilised.

Cost of the Name of the party Capacity project Rs. in crores

1. Shri Chandcr Kishore Kejrimal New Delhi 3,400 tonnes/year 1*17

2. Shri K. Rama Rao Maney Banga­ 4/ xk > tonnes/year 1*39 lore 3. M/s. Hindustan Development Corpora­ 3,600 tonnes/year i*oo tion, Calcutta.

No effective steps have yet been in the public sector for a capacity of taken by these parties to set up E.M.D. 10 tonnes per day at a capital cost plants. of Rs. 3 crores based on indigenously developed process is also under exa­ A proposal to set up an E M.D, plant mination. 137 Written Answers CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 138 Effect of computers on employment In (b). (i) The limits vary from 3 organised industries years to 6 years depending upon the functions of the establishments in 4284. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHAS- which they are employed. Officers TRI: Will the Minister of LABOUR whose superannuation is due within a AND REHABILITATION be pleased year, are however, exempted. to state: (ii) For staff it will not be appli­ (a) whether Government have made cable. any study on the effect of computers on employment in organised indus­ (c). The decision was taken in tries; and October 1971, and is already under implementation phasewise as regards (b) if so, the results thereof? the General Stores Division and will be implemented in the other divisions THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND gradually. REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU- NATHA REDDY): (a) and

Rotation of officers and staff o f D ef­ (*ft) 1972 $r fw-fesr svfef ence Inspection Organisation.

4285. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state: (sr) ir ffarffin* snfT^ (a) whether Secretary, Defence Pro­ duction has taken a decision that offi­ *r tsrt §xr y fonftifi %ft* cers and staff employed in ,the Defence Inspection Organisation will be rotated qnfatf % sfashf % fair after certain period; 5Txr tot vnhrrft vt irf | ? (b) if so, what is the limit of that period; (i) for officers and (ii) for * tfhc jswfar *tcft (*ft w r w staff; and i $ ) : (*) r«ftr 2, (c) when this decision was taken 1972 % *fkW fiVoffiw (^?- and when this decision is going to be implemented? cTT^ff itn % *nrc«r wfa THE MINISTER OF STATE (DE­ «w faff tfwr % FENCE PRODUCTION) IN THE MI­ NISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI VIDYA %ftx s iffrrere, ^ r t CHARAN SHUKLA): (a). A decision 1 [fa r o has been taken for rotation of officers employed in the Organisation of Direc­ »r4l?ftro^LT~4563/73] torate General of Inspection. To start with the decision has been made appli­ (sr) fSKiHN' cable to the General St'res Division and to other technical divisions concern­ d ftg p % trsffa ed with the inspection of stores sup­ plied by trade. ^Tsqr^rrr, *nr 159 Written Answers MARCH 22, 1973 Written Aitmer# 140

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4287. «rt *£To greft : WT Compensation payable to owners ol 5ww m »fcft v% stctt% q?t f^rr Nationalised. n°n-coking Coal Mines TO : 4289. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS (^ ) f t % STPR 8KT ? m MUNSI: Will the Minister of STEEL ftW°T $ft *rf ’hr'HW'Cf 3TFTT AND MINES be pleased to state: Wlf*Pf> ^?TT^T SPTcTT fw ft |; (a) the approximate net amount of compensation to be paid to the own­ ers of the non-coking Coal Mines («r) s w r 5 r t ^ 5QTFft ^nr which recently had been taken over 'S & m f^ r ^ ^ ^ fa^rc |; by the Government; and sflr (b) whether the Management of those non-coking Cpal Mines would be (*r) *rt xrsfhr vtswr P«i«t>i^ absolutely newly set up or would re­ main the same? fqiPT % STO5IT «f$T% % irsp zftsFTT SRTf I ¥^T «rf^T ?ft ^RSTRPSft THE DEFUTY MINISTER IN THE *jot ^ra- sprr $ ? MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI SUBODH HANSDA): (a) The amount to be paid for acquisition of $F1Tff *8TR IWTRW $T 3W5ft the mines, the management of which (ilt g*ter fw r) : (w) srft (sr). has been taken over under the Co&l 1 9 7 1 -7 2 srw foer if Mines (Taking Over of Management) % $mr Ordinance, 1973, is being worked out ’BTpff # 1NWT STWT 490. 00 T O and will be finalised at the time ol c*T WfRTEra tft

Pak citisens’ attack on Indian High 3.10.72 for purposes other than Joint Commission at London Consultative Machinery (JCM). 4290. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS (c) The reply from the first recog­ MITNSI: Will the Minister of EX­ nised Association in the Pay and TERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to Accounts Office, Calcutta, to the show- state: cause notice issued to it, is under exa­ mination at present. The question* of (a) whether Government have granting recognition to any other written to Pakistan about the recent Association for JCM purposes would affairs of Indian High Commission at arise only in the event of withdrawal London, where some Pakistani citizens of such recognition from the existing attempted to take the lives of the offi­ recognised Association. cials of Indian High Commission; (b) if so, whether any leply has Recommendations by National Com­ since been received in this behalf; and mission on Labour (c) whether Government have also 4292. SHRI SARJOO PANDEY: Will sent any letter in this regard to the the Minister of LABOUR AND REHA­ Commonwealth at London? BILITATION be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether the recommendations MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS made by National Commission on (SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH): Labour regarding agricultural labour (a) No, Sir. have been implemented; and (b) Does not arise. (b) if no, the reasons for the delay" (c) No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU- NATHA REDDY): (a) and vb). The lecommendations of the National Show cause notice to recognised union Commission on Labour concerning of Pay and Account Office, Calcutta agricultural labour have been com­ mended to the concerned Ministries 4291. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS and the State Governments/Union MUNSI: Will the Minister of SUPPLY Territories for taking necessary action. be pleased to state: Some Ministries and State Govern- ments/Union Territories have already (a) whether very recently his implemented some of the recommen­ Ministry has sent any letter or issued dations while others are initiating any circular to the existing recognised action in the matter. Union of Pay and Account Office, Cal­ cutta to show cause on their conduct; Slow progress regarding participation (b) whether other Unions in the of representative of workers on Board meantime have been recognised in the of directors of public sector industrial Pay and Account Office at Calcutta; undertakings and 4293. SHRI SARJOO PANDEY: Will (c) If not, the reasons for the delay? the Minister of LABOUR AND RE­ HABILITATION be pleased to state: TBS MINISTER OF SUPPLY (a) what are the reasons for the (SHRI SHAH NAWAZ KHAN): (a) slow progress in implementing the Yes, Sir. proposal for taking the representatives of workers in the Boards of Directors (b) No Sir. The other Association of public sector industrial under­ was granted de-facto recognition on takings; and Written Answers MARCH 22, 1973 Written Answers 144

(b) what steps have been taken to ftw vr ensure early implementation of the

proposal in all such undertakings? w * * ( » ) •

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND xhnrR ^rarf *$t tfwT REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU- «rf ------NATHA REDDY); (a) and The intention is to introduce the scheme Jftfwr Thnrn:** of appointment of workers’ represen­ s m «r- tatives on the board of management in faTCff ^ one or two public sector undertakings ^Npit on a trial basis. The proposal to appoint a worker Director in the Hindustan Antibiotics Ltd. Pimpri is 1970 2,47,503 33,894 at an advanced stage. The question 1971 3,15,592 41,794 of introducing the scheme in some other undertakings also is being pur­ 1972 4,04,380 47,237 sued.

srcsfT it f w d wnfN stwt sr Ttorcrn: ®TH") ^ W % 4294. Sifoh' : W ^T3ET ^ | I «m tfh; ^ t o «p^ir fa : **Tt3PTR ftranfc ^ ^ CTf^grrd t fw w % gfhpr «r»ter awfhr- (sp) «rt cffr v m sfor % ^rrf % i f m w % *r«rfojer cTSTT OTRtwT ^ facT% ^ ®rfiRT ft 1 ^ ^ *r srrw O jtspt srfo atf -rtm n. ?r?rn?r ir s k ?iff | 1 (sr) faa% ■rfwff w *fcn * for ^ aprr* wwft *FTfsr % T tw x fw r ? w ff vt ht* tf>r srrO *vnr «r* afc *foft ( rt t w t 4295. nm wt«t : *gt) : (*) (w)- m iwrer m ^ gyfaprf spV sott % *T«rr*f s w s s f>rr *p^*f fa : if ^ imrK ^ (^ ) *rwr s&er ^ ^ % $ d w ft srftprnfa: ^ Tfnr W I 31 f^ETRX, 1972 cTC f ) x trz ftanrc srrccT arffcpff *rwr % qfnsm % fin % fawrf fajTvr Jr fr ir? 1 1 % fa*mr % *fto sfto ?>n$for fa* 145 Written Answers CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 146

*F* \ *(tK f 3 T ^ fa*tf<*V efTRRIT S f ^ T (*t) srcft % sc^r*? 2 0 0 0 TT*r«TT ?:=r% ?TftRr ? , ^ •TlrfccT f^FcTIT % f w STT *rt «ft, *rft (^ ) wr sto % f^ar sptt% *rr% trsp^f 3|Tt fff? r % («r) tot ^r% % *r*ft § f I ; qfe $r, ?ft sr#*r % gwrw % fsrq sptf JTPfasff fa s t e r fasrffar f%% fW t g$ ifr*- ^r% wr ^r*r $ ?

*r5r t 9 ***rcr wtesnra tot*** T w fi 5FTW ^ « w H9TRM *f 3 1 - («fr qjAwgffcr) (v ) % (*r) qrFTWft wnpfircr «fV 5tt ?riv *nft (Mt y t m i«fi) (v) w T^r TK Tsft1 srTrnfY I s%sr w farffr ^ % Employment of women fsssr ^-Tl% ffTTT ^ *fto «fto 4297 SHRI C K. CHANDRA PPAN: ^ vzm ferr wr f 1 Will the Minister of LABOUR AND REHABILITATION be pleased to (*9T) ST7T JTtft 1 state: (a) whether employment of women t o ** st v «r^T^Wr?r war «ift *ntff m general is quite low; (b) what is the strength of the working women in the total working 4296. sft n*n ^r«r?ftf9W : wr population; *s«rra sfhc ,sn,flf *Tj? «rar% ^ f^rr (c) whether the employment for ^ ir f?p rural women is very low; and (d) if so, what is the number of ( v ) *rwr sr^3T 3t «pw rfrpfirer rural working women and how many are unemployed among the rural ^RfhFT sre # ^pft % tpt w r | women? 3*R?t 9T?T STRRfT *RT t 5TOT THE MINISTER OP LABOUR AND gnmr *rk srfa^- (fN ftw r srfc fin?w) REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU- NATHA REDDY): (a) to (d). A state­ srfsrfaw , 1957 % fror- ment containing the relevant informa­ tion, based on the 1971 Census, is laid f w iTRt^r * t

Steps for Optimum Production in Pub­ 4300. SHRI ARJUN SETHI: Will the lic and Private Sector Units Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: 4299. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: (a) the difficulty to prepare a de­ Will the Minister of HEAVY INDUS­ tailed Project Report for the proposed TRY be pleased to state: Sukinda Nickel Deposit in Orissa at (a) whether the Minister had made the earliest; and a statement, as reported in ‘Patriot’ (b) the time it will take to prepare dated the 10th February, 1973 stating a feasibility report for Sargipalli Lead that the concern of the Government Project and Malengtoli Iron Ore De­ is to ensure optimum production in posit? Public and private sectors units; (b) if so, the factors which are now THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE standing on the way of achieving this MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES end; and (SHRI SUKHDEV PRASAD): (a) There is no difficulty as such to pre­ (c) the steps Government intend to pare a Detailed Project Report for the take to ensure the success of the Sukinda Nickel Project. Detailed Pro­ policy declared by the Government? ject Report would be prepared after the viability of the process recommen­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ded for recovery of Nickel from the MINISTRY OF HEAVY INDUSTRY Lateritic ore of Kansa (Sukinda) area (SHRI SIDDESHWAR PRASAD) (a) of Orissa is established on a commer­ to (c). The statement made was that cial scale and the site for location of Government’s first concern will be the plant is finally selected. Necessary ensure optimum production both in investigations in this regard are in public and private sector units so that progress and are expected to be com­ the capacities already created are fully pleted In early 1974. 149 Written Answers CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 150-

(b) A feasibility report far the India to resolve their differences Sargipalli Lead Deposit is expected to through the implementation of the be taken up by the Hindustan Zinc Simla Agreement; Limited, Udaipur, on receipt of neces­ sary mining lease from the State Gov­ (b) whether Government have re­ ernment. The time required for ceived the full text of the Statement; preparing the report is not yet known. and Regarding Malengtoli Iron Ore De­ posit, it may be mentioned that the (c) the reaction of Government Government have appointed a Study thereto? Group on the development of this Deposit. A report of the Study Group is still awaxted The question of pre­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE paration of Feasibility Report/Detailed MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS Project Report will bo considered on (SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH): the basis of the report of the Study (a) to

Japanese Prime Minister’s statement (b) whether Government of India Hoarding resolving Indo-Pak Differ­ has studied the implications of this ences through Simla Agreement report carefully and reaction of the 4302. SHRI H. M. PATEL: Will the Government of India thereof? Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) and (a) whether the Japanese Prime (b). The Government have seen the- Minister called upon Pakistan and Press report. T he report is baseless. 551 Written Answers MARCH 22, 1973 Written Answers 152

(«ar) wt w % wfafoRr «TfrmTt «*ft ^ftwtfwr *flr sfa: «rs% »rTT?r Jr % *r |, srk 4304. «ft fwaf fTTC :

w *m 5pr«rffT «r5ft ^ 3Rnftr (*t) qrfiwaiM % strt vmvfhT f«P «pwf*w> *re**r*fr J *T *m fTrRt 3t Trf sftr *jfT qrfo- (37) ^ qf^rr, sit ^ T R STTT 5?t n f ^ f ^ f T aft srm-'iif o w T ^ ^rpner m % f® *5ft ffVr ar^sfr *t?nfr?rcr Tjxjr 5f mfV-WM W £ , sffa snf*rar *rft fr*rr w ?

(sr) ®rfe %r,

f spfjr w m iP w r % w f t ^ stt % f^ T ’RRTFW $f TWmM f*r£ sptf

^ ^ ’Tlf^WTH' 5ffe W % I (^r) W apt ^t SFtf «r>r f^RT s flx sr^r q^t | 1 qTf^FfTf % &P#t ^TT % 3T* $ «pf arrc wiwwra £ 1 («T) Trf^FTcTH H ^ft ^ ^ ?nfr fPT?ft t t tfT** «TTfa*tTH 3 % qfarrc Arrears of P.F from owners of 4305. *ft f«W $«TT OTWft : private coal mines m fafcr i?aY Jjf 3rtt% ^ t'TT ^ 4306. SHBI Y. ESWARA BEDDY: f p : Will the Minister of LABOUR AND REHABILITATION be pleased to (* ) ^ w qfcfwfft apt *ITCr state*

*t art qrOrerrft ^ P « w t ^t (a) the total amount of outstanding t sfk jpt #WT 1w f t provident fund arrears from the pri­ vate coal mine owners as on the 31st t ; December, 1972; and I S3 Written Answers CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) Written Answers 154

(b) what steps Government propose and that it can be reactivated only to take to realise these arrears’ when all parties to the conflict come to an agretme it on ceasefue and make a THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND formal approach to that effect REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU- NATHA REDDY) (a) The Coal Mines Provident Fund Commissioner has Closure of industrial establishments in reported that a sum of Rs 8 91 Crores West Bengal was outstanding on account of Provi­ 4i08 SHRI JYOriRMOY BOSU dent fund arrears m respect of private sector collieries as on 30th September, Will the Minuter of LABOUR AND 1972 The information regarding the REHABILITATION be pleased to state provident fund dues outstanding from the private sector coal mines as on 31st (a) how mam (i) larse scale (11) December, 1972, is not available small-scale and (111) medium-scale industrial establishments still remain (b) Legal action by way of prosecu­ closed in West Bengal, tions and recovery proceedings is general’y taken to recover the arrears (b) th* total number ol workers out Pending certificate cases are being of employment because of such vigorously pursued by the Coal Mines closures, Provident Fund authorities for re­ (c) a list of lar»» scale and medium covery of arrears Special Certificate scale establishments with total num­ Officers have been appointed for this ber of workers a^d employees remain­ purpose at Dhanbad and Asansol Ar­ ing closed till date and rangements ha\e also been made to file claims before he Commissioner for (d) the policy of the Government Payments of Compensation under the with regard to the closed establish­ Coking Coal Mines (Nationalisation) ments’ Act, 1972 as soon as he starts func­ tioning for realising arrears of provi­ THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND dent fund REHABIIITATION (SHRI RAGHU- NATIIA REDDY) (a) to (d) Informa­ International Control Commission for tion is being collected restoring peace in Cambodia Condition of Machinery at time of 4307 SHRI Y ESWARA REDDY Nationalisation of Jioa-coking Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AF­ Coal Mines FAIRS be pleased to state 4309 SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (a) whether the Cambodian Govern­ Will the Minister of STEEL AND ment have asked India to reactivate MINES be pleased to refer to the the International Control Commission rejply given, to Unstarred Question (IC C ) to help restore peace m that No 2588 on the 8th March, 1973, and ■country, and state the condition of the plants and machinery of the non-coking coal (b) if so, the action taken by Gov­ mines recently taken over by the Gov­ ernment in this regard’ ernment’ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) (a) (SHRI SUBODH HANSDA) No ad­ Yes, Sir verse reports have so far been received by the Coal Mines Authority about (b) It has been explained to them the condition of plant and machinery that the I.C.SC is only a supervisory of non-coking coal mines taken over body and not a peace-keeping force by the Government 155 Written Answer* MARCH 22, WS Written Answers 156

Production cost of an aircraft manu­ and components to the extent possible factured at E A X , Bangalore and also for the mahufacture Of vari­ ous kinds of aircraft accesioriaa within 4310. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: the country. Will the Minister of DEFENCE be / pleased to state: Service Ofllcers on depstrttoa to Public Sector Undertakings (a) the cost of an aircraft manu­ factured at Hindustan Aeronautics 4321. SHRI BIRENDER SINGH Ltd., Bangalore; RAO: Will the Minister of DEFENCE, be pleased to state; (b) the comparative cost of an imported aircraft; (a) the number of Service Officers (e) whether the former is costlier and personnel who are on deputation than the latter; and on high ranks to Public Sector under­ takings; and (d) if so, the factors responsible for the same? (b) the names of the undertakings to which they have been deputed? THE MINISTER OF STATE (DE­ FENCE PRODUCTION) IN THE MIN­ THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE ISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI VIDYA (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) Nine CHARAN SHUKLA): (a) to (c). HAL (against posts whose civil scale of pay mainly manufactures aircraft for meet­ starts from Rs. 2000 and above). ing defence needs. It will not be in the public interest to disclose details of (b) Names of the undertakings are cost in these cases. In the case of air­ as under:— craft manufactured under licence, the cost of production of HAL aircraft at (1) Modern Bakeries Ltd. the raw material stage is generally (2) Bharat Dynamics Ltd. comparable with the price of similar aircraft if imported. However in the (3) Praga Tools Ltd. case of HS 748, where the number of aircraft to be manufactured is limited, (4) Indian Airlines. the HAL cost is somewhat higher. (5) Cochin Shipyard Ltd. (d) The higher cost is due to the (6) Garden Reach Workshop Ltd. comparatively limited number to be (7) Hindusthan' Copper Ltd. produced and consequent higher amor­ tisation. There is also the absence of (8) Heavy Engineering Corpora­ a well developed industrial infra­ tion. structure of supporting industries for the supply of aircraft materials, Social security benefits to equipment and accessories, most of agricultural labours which have to be imported. 4312. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Will Among the steps taken to reduce the Minister of LABOUR AND RE­ the cost of production are to increase HABILITATION be pleased to state: the productivity in HAL by greater attention to production planning and (a) whether there is ahy proposal scheduling, incentive schemes training to extend the social security benefits etc. Several measures have also been to agricultural labour; and initialed for development of indigen­ ous substitutes for imported materials Of) if so, the main features thereof?” 157 Written Answers CHAJTRA 1, 1805 (SAKA) Written Answers 158

THE MINISTER OP LABOUR AND THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU- REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU- NATHA REDDY) (a) and (b) There NATHA REDDY) (a) and (b). In­ is no proposal to extend the social formation is not available It may be security benefits to agricultura labour mentioned that it is the responsibility However, the Employees Provident of the State Governments as ‘apprc* Funds and Family Pension Fund Act pnate Governments’ under the Mini­ 1952 covers, inter alia, workers en­ mum Wages Act, 1948. to make ade­ gaged m the following establishments quate arrangements for enforcing the and plantations minimum wages fixed by them

1 Every cane farm owned by the (c) The State Governments are ad­ owner or occupier of a Sugar vised from time to time to take appro- Factory or cultivated by such pnate steps to ensure effective imple- owner or occupier or any per­ mentatioi of the Act son on his behalf 2 Tea Plantations (other than the faSNt % wnr tea plantations m Assam) 4315. Iw * : 3 Coffee Plantations wjr t r : 4 Rubber Plantations TOT ^ 9RTH sft f*TT 5 Cardamom Plantations 6 Pepper Plantations The question of extending the Em­ ( * ) m 1971-72 % SfVFT WRT ployees’ State Insurance Scheme, in a phased manner to addit onal cate­ jt fTT-ftuT *m>rr f w gories of estaV hvhments inc uding £ plantations js under consideration (?sf) m sftm wtt wpar sftr The Mdternitv Benefits Act, 1961 applies, inter alia, to the plantations srrarc tot | 7 It can be extended to any other es­ tablishment including agricultural es­ fafcr *ranrav ^ ttw («ft tablishments mi fir*) M f^7 T1'* Minimum wages for agricultural labour ^ 1971-72 43H SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA WiU TT SR7 f%tr the Mmistei of LABOUR AND RE­ HABILITATION be pleased to state «frsr wstsst, (a) whether in States where mini­ mum wages have been notified for spfcr ^ftTcT# jhjitfht grrorr, agricultural labour no *-eparate lmpe- mentation machinery has beei set up, «Ttf,

(h) whether as a result of this the minimum wages notified are not en­ ^ rfW m &m rfl t o s t forced, and m 1 (c) if 90, whether Centre will take steps to see that necessary implemen­ (sr) * t o t Trarftfa* *nf*w tation machinery is set up in States to enforce the minimum waxes? sroFsfa*, ihrrfw vftx w M t 1 3983 LS—6. 159 Written Answers MARCH 22, 1973 . Written Answers l6o

snxrn wt «rrsrr< | Shifting of ammunition, experiment wor* ffom Chandipu: proof and Ex­ *r m ss toft % m«r t o t perimental Installation

srfr cr*rr *TW^er i 4317. SHRI SHYAM SUNDER MOHAPATRA: Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state:

Border clashes between India and (a) whether Government are aware Pakistan after Simla Agreement that some sophisticated ammunition experiment which were hitherto done 4315. SHRI SHYAM SUNDER at Chand.pur Proof and Experimental MOHAPATRA: WiU the Minister of Installation at Balasore has been DEFENCE be pleased to state: shifted to Itarsi, Madhya Pradesh; and

(a) whether there has been any (b) what is the quantum of shift­ border clash between India and Pakis­ ing to Itarsi and whether it has any tan since the Simla Agreement; and effect on personnel employed in the jobs? (b) if so, the reaction of Govern­ THE MINISTER OF STATE (DE­ ment thereto? FENCE PRODUCTION) IN THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI THE DEFENCE MINISTER (SHRI VIDYA CHARAN SHUKLA): (a) JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) Yes. Sir. There Since the commissioning of Central have been a few border clashes. Proof at Itarsi m 1971 certain work connected with routine proof has been (b) These strey incidents are settled transferred to Itarsi. As far as R&D by local commanders through flag Projects and experiments connected meetings. On the whole the border is with sophisticated ammunition are quiet. concerned, no work has been trans­ ferred to Itarsi. Contract labour in Rourbela steel plant (b) It is not in the public interest 4316. SHRI SHYAM SUNDER to disclose details of proof work which MOHAPATRA: Will the Minister of has been transferred to Itarsi. Due to STEEL AND MINES be pleased to increased load on R&D project activi­ state; ties and experimental wo?k at Bala­ sore, no retrenchment of personnel is (a) the number of contract labour contemplated. in Rourkela steel plant;

(b) the number likely t6 be absorbed More produrfion and employment in the permanent nature of jobs in the opportunities at H.E.C., Ranchi plant and by what time; and 4318. KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI: Will the Minister of HEAVY INDUS­ (c) whether Government are aware TRY be pleased to state: that the contract labour has low wages there and unhealthy sub-human condi­ (a) the expected production of three tions? machine tool plants of H.E.C., Ranchi upto March, 1974 THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (b) whether more employment op- (SHRI SUBODH HANSDA): (a) to portuttity will be created for the peo­ (c). Information is bein* collected ple of Chhota-Nagpur With the increase and ‘will be laid on the Table of the of production upto 1974; and House. (e) if ao. the facts thereof? l 6l Written Answers CHAITRA 1, 1895 (&AKA) Written Answers 162

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (*F) m vtf % MINISTRY OF HEAVY INDUSTRY

(b) if so, the facts thereof’ ?r«rrf*T ’strtHY ’rfrffer % htshtpt !?Fr% armt w THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS q w srrfto sttt wfsrer sw> t (SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) (a) Government are not aware of any ?rfr m such move by Pakistan. »Tf I I (b) Doe#? not arise Allotment of agricultural and in Delhi to refugees from Pakistan 4322 SHRI R. P. ULAGANAMBI: Will the Minister of LABOUR AND *T*rojT srurf REHABILITATION be pleased to state 4320 TWHWITC WWft * W (a) whether allotment of agricul­ tot *r3rt 33 9?rc% qft frcr fa • tural land to persons known as Delhi 163 Written Answers MARCH 22, 1978 Written Anaw4rs 164

Colonist, in lieu of the land left by are being taken to finalise these cases, them in Pakistan, has not been made expeditiously. Besides, 5 Delhi Colo­ and possession given to them as yet nists who were allotted land have re­ even though more than twenty-three quested- for exchange of their land years have passed after their claims allotments and their requests are under were settled in 1949; consideration. (b) if so. the number of such per­ Massive radar complex of China in sons involved; and Western Tibet (c) the reasons for delay in satis­ 4323. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL. fying their claims? REDDY: Will theMinister of DE­ THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND FENCE be pleased to state: REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU- (a) whether the attention of the NATHA REDDY): (a) to (c). Origin­ Government ha

Kmpkqrm^n* t» » e n w recommended (b) Exploration for bauxite is being by EnplofB»ent A n t e f w carried out in Potangi area, Koraput district of Orissa. 4325. SHRI B. ft. SHUKLA: Will the Minister of LABOUR AND REHABI- (c) Preliminary investigation car­ LITATION be pleased to state: ried out in Potangi area, have re­ vealed a fairly thick capping of (a) whether any action has been bauxite and aluminous laterite extend­ "taken or prosecution launched against ing over about 2 sq. km. area. The any employers in Government ser­ bauxite zones appear to be about vices, local bodies or public under­ 6 metres in thickness at the scrap faces takings lor not giving employment to containing approximately 45 to 48 per persons whose names were sent by cent alumina. Exploration by drilling employment exchange offices and ap­ has been taken up in the current pointing persons not included in the 1972—73 field season. list of persons sent by Employment Exchange offices: and (b) if so, the nature of action taken? Implementation o f Simla Agreement

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 4327. SHRI FATES1NGHRAO GAE- REHABILITATION (SHRI RAGHU- KWAD: Will the Minister of EXTER­ NATHA REDDY): (a) and (b) There NAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state the is no legal provision in terms of which extent to which the Simla Agreement ■employers are required to recruit only has been implemented so far? through Employment Exchanges. In the circumstances, th« question of prosecuting employers for non-utilisa­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 1HE tion of Employment Exchanges for pur­ MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS poses of recruitment, does not arise. (SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) With the delineation of the line of However, Central Government offi­ control in Jammu and Kashmir and ces/establishments are required, under the withdrawal of troops from occu­ executive instructions, to utilise Em­ pied territories, paragraph 4 of the ployment Exchanges. In the few dray Simla Agreement has been implemented cases where the instructions arc not in full. Some exchanges have taken followed, persuasive action is taken, to place between the Governments of achieve the object. India and Pakistan on the normalisa­ tion measures mentioned in paragraph 3 of the Simla Agreement, although Investigations for Bauxite deposits in no concrete proposals have emanated Orissa so far. Pakistan's continued non­ 4326. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANI- recognition of Bangladesh has delayed GRAHI: Will the Minister of STEEL progress on the question of repatria­ AND MINES be pleased to state- tion of POWs and civilian internees who surrendered to the Joint Indo- (a) whether the investigation for Bangladesh Command, by preventing finding out Bauxite deposits in Orissa Bangladesh’s participation in talks on are continuing; this issue. (b) if so, in which districts; and Government hope that Pakistan will (c) the results thereof known so far? view these matters in a realistic and constructive manner in order to ex­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE pedite the normalisation of relations MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES and establishment of durable peace in (SHRI S JKHDEV PRASAD): (a) Yes, the subcontinent in terms of the Simla Agreement. Sir. x67 Molestation of MARCH 22, 1973 ' Wursino Oncers In a ' M in i B u s (OA.) 12.04 hrs. Kuan tbct he toad fOufcil two lying cm the ft& g Road itatar Brar CALLING ATTENTION TO MATTER Square. The passerby brought them to OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE the Army Hospital, At the hospital, R eported death o f a n u r sin g officer one of therti was found dead and the AND SERIOUS INJURY TO ANOTHER DUE TO other unconscious. The Army Hos­ ALLEGED ASSAULT AND MOLESTATION IN pital authorities reported the arrival a Mini Bus in D e lh i of the two nursing officers at the hospital to the police station on SHRI SEZHIYAN (Kumbakonam): telephone at 11.50 P.M. The police I call the attention of the Minister of recovered two bustickets from the Home Affairs to the following matter purs© of the deceased. The unconscious of urgent public importance and officer recovered consciousness and I request that he may make a state­ made statement to the police at about ment thereon: 2 P.M. The police instituted a search and by the afternoon of the 17th The reported death of a nursing March, they arrested both the driver officer and serious injury to another, and the conductor of the mini-bus due to alleged assault and molesta­ allegedly involved in the incident and tion by the driver of mini-bus on the impounded the mini-bus. A case has 17th March, 1973 near Ring Road in been registered and is under investi- Delhi. gatioa

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS This has been a tragic and outra­ (SHR K. C. PANT): It is reported that geous occurience which has shocked two lady nursing officers of the Army us. It is a matter of satisfaction that Hospital, Delhi Cantonment, had gone the Police acted swiftly. The Police to Patel Nagar to see an evening cine­ have been asked to complete the ma show on the 16th March, 1973. investigation without delay. After the show, they engaged a scooter rickshaw which took them upto Ra- jouri Garden. As the rickshaw driver SHRI SEZHIYAN: Mr. Speaker refused to go beyond Rajouri Garden, Sir, I shate with the Minister the feel­ the two officers took a mini-bus for ing that it has been a very grave, tra­ Naraina, where the mini-bus terminat­ gic and outrageous occurrence in re­ ed and all the passengers got down. cent times in Delhi. As far as this in­ The driver of the mini-bus volunteer­ cident is concerned, I also agree with ed to take these officers to the Army him that the police has acted swiftly Hospital. and effectively, but this is not the first incident of its kind which has been reported. Last year also, incidents had It is also alleged that when the been reported of the same kind, that mini-bus started again, the conductor is of women travelling late in the drove the vehicle and the driver stood night by the bus services having been near exit door of the mini-bus. The molested and assaulted and, in two mini-bu

I would like to make two or three I again say that we should revamp observations in this matter for the and reoriant the entire police system consideration of the Minister. One is, in the city. The mounting rats of here too, there is no separate police crime and the multiplying incidents cadre for Delhi, and all the higher of this nature do not do any credit officials are being assigned here on to the police system that is there. deputation from other States so much so that there is no involvement for SHRI K. C. PANT: He said the these officers in the Delhi police force. Delhi police force was not adequate. Just like a doctor who should know Perhaps he referred to the strength of the background of the family that he numbers. is treating, the high police officials should nlso have the background SHRI SEZHIYAN: In terms of knowledge of the locality where they quality and quantity both. have been called to serve. Therefore, a separate cadre should be created SHRI K. C. PANT: It may be so* for Delhi, so that they will have an but this is determined by a triennial involvement in the job that they have review. That review would scon be been asked to perform. undertaken. The strength of the police has gone up in the last few years,, but if there is any need for it to go Secondly, the petrol system is one up further that will be determined by of th* weakest links in the police or­ the triennial review. ganisation in Delhi. The mobile patrol­ ling is very erratic, if not absent, in So far as the equipment etc. are the police system in Delhi. Only in concerned, we pay a lot of attention Delhi you see all the traffic rules be­ to this aspect of modemisaticn of the ing 'Violated. If we go to Madras and police force providing it with mobility Bdmbay, there, more then one person wireless sets, forensic laboratories for cannot go on a cycle, but here in crime detection and so on. We also Delhi you se- a whole family going have a research bureau in the capital on one cycle and nobody gets any We are trying tc modernise the po­ complaint about "this matter. The lice and give it the equipment which main police system is the weak­ would make it a ttiobile, r e lia b le and est point in Delhi where it should be modem force. Alwajr# tbit constraint* thU strongest. of resources is cannot go 171 Molestation of MARCH 22, 1973 Nursing Officers in a i j z Mint B u t (djL.) [Shri K. C. Pant] buses were not permitted on these beyond that point. This constraint has routes. One reason is, DTC buses to be recognised, but within the allot­ co not carry luggage, these pentnit ment cf finances, We are trying to do routes are from the two railway sta­ whatever is possible. It is not Quite tions and the inter-State bus terminal correct to say that there Is no sepa­ where people travel with luggage. rate cadre. There is a separate cadre Therefore, this would suit passengers lor Delhi lor Inspectors and below. who come with luggage. There is a Joint cadre lor Delhi and Finally he said if DTC buses were the Andamans for Dy. S.Ps. and a joint used, this sort of mischief would not cadre lor all Union Territories lor have been done. I want to assure the IPs officers. The point he was driving House that in all cases of conductors at really was that the officers ol the and drivers, a police check is made lower-ranks—Inspectors and below— beforehand. It is the same in respect do not have adequate knowledge of of DTC and minibuses. In this case the localities in which they are post* also, a check was made but nothing «d. This is a paint of view that adverse was found. Therefore these should certainly receive attention. I two persons were appointed. In this am not an expert in these matters but case after the rest of the passengers I did make enquiries about this as­ got out, the conductor and driver said, pect of the functioning of Delhi police, “We will leave you at your place” and whether one could not have police­ these two ladies consented. Then they men living in the localities themselves. misbehaved. This kind of thing can I am told that this matter is being really not be protected against. One studied in depth. There are two opi­ is very pained by it, but whatever nions. There are certain advantages in preventive measures you may take having the policemen living in the one does not know how one can be localities and there are certain dis­ absolutely sure of preventing it. advantages. But I shall certainly look into this situation further. SHRI B. K DASCHOWDHURY (Cooch-Behar): The Minister’s About violation of traffic rules there statement is simply a statement of is considerable violation and several facts as to what happened. Unfortu­ people are also caught. One of the nately we do not find m it any positive difficulties is at the level of the judi­ steps as to how the Government pro­ ciary. These cases tend to clog up the pose to stop this sort of crime in the whole judiciary machine. That is an­ society. Of course, in reply to the other aspect, I do not want to bring previous speaker, the Minister said it up here at this stage. that he was deeply concerned about He said mini-buses had been per­ it. There is one line in the statement mitted indiscriminately. Their total saying, “It is a matter of great satis­ number is 84 at present Of them 19 faction that the police acted swiftly.” belong to DTC, 38 to Cooperative So­ Yes, I agree that the police acted cieties, 18 to private limited companies swiftly but when? One of the lady end 9 to ex-sericemen. officers died and the other one was lying uncons"iouc On regaining con­ SHRI SEZHIYAN: Did this particu­ sciousness, she gave a statement to the lar mini-bus belong to the DTC? police. Then the police acted. The bas'c question remains: Is it the duty SHRI K. C. PANT: No; this be­ of (he police force simply to act longs to a cooperative society. Re­ after the incidents or before the inci­ cently 30 mini-bus permits have been dents? granted in favour of DTC by the State Transport Authority, 14 of these per­ It is not a single incident, as the ear* mits have been issued. 1 am mention­ Tier speaker said. This is a glaring ing it In relation to the remark he example of the most egregious break­ made. He wanted to know why DTC down of law and order, particularly 173 Molestation of CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) Nursing Officers in a 174 Mini Bus (C.A.) in Delhi. My friend who spoke earlier SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY: gave certain figures. I want to read Probably the hon. Member has not •one sentence from this book Crime in followed the Television programme Jndia: very closely.

“The volume of crime in the cities In most of the cases, I hold the under study was very high, the opinion, this is a growing tendency. highest being in Delhi, followed To bring relief to all such situations closely by Kanpur.” that we are facing from time to time 'That is the startling report made in which can be very well explained_ 1970. Government knows that the Delhi has become a king of crimes—I highest incidence of crime is in Delhi. would ask whether the Government What are the reasons? Probably no­ is willing to have a sort of socio-eco- where have such things happened as nomic-cum-political study of Delhi’s have happened in Delhi. About three atmosphere, of Delhi’s environment, or four years back, an American jour­ and to come out with the findings as nalist, while she was on her way to to what other remedial measures are Falam Airport, was kidnapped, moles­ the findings as to what other remedial ted, raped and brutally murdered. We measures are necessary, so that Delhi also know what happened during the society may be regarded as a very autumn season in 1969 or 1970. To civilised society. enjoy the Puja Holidays, a young couple came to Delhi from Calcutta Delhi’s mam problem, particularly, At night the wife was taken away the city’s problem the transport the same group of people—bus conduc_ problem. It is not only that the inci­ tors—she was molested, raped and dents happen in scooters or taxis or brutally murdered. At this rate, we mini-buses or m D.T.C. buses. It has do not know what is going to happen become a regular problem. We have to the social life of Delhi. Only the been hearing reports regularly. It is other day, we had a discussion about a regular thing. The Government Miranda House affairs. This is not an should come out with a solution of isolated instance. This is an example this problem. About the transport, it of the most egregious break-down of is not a pleasure to move about. It law and order in Delhi. It is not is a bare necessity to have transport. enough simply to take action after the incident. We have to consider to Lastly, in view of the fact that these what stage we are passing on from incidents are growing from time to time to time. time, may I know whether the Gov­ ernment will also consider, to put a Why does that happen? Delhi so­ stop to these things, instituting a pro­ ciety seems to have a very permissive per inquiry or a Commission to go society today. It permits everything. into it and act according to the sug­ What about the service rendered to gestions given by the Commission. cultivate and to enlighten the local people even by our Television sets? SHRI K. C. PANT: My hon. If we closely follow the programmes friend has said that the police acted given on the Television, except on only after they found that one of the Saturday^ and Sundays when Indian nurses was dead. That is not correct. films are shown, most of the time they My information is that when a tele­ are worthless programmes imported phone call was received at the Police from other countries. All forms of Central Room at 10.48 p.m. and earlier cabaret dances are being shown there. at 10.80 p.m. at Police Post Dhaula SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Not in my Kuan, finding two women injured on television set at least. the road, from Police Post Dhaula (Interruptions'). Kuan a policeman was sent. The 175 Molestation of MARCH 22, 1973 Nursing Officers in a , 17& Mini Bus ( C M [Shri K. C. Pant] the givea atmosphere* within the Polite Control Room got an anony­ given values, within the given tem­ mous call at 10.48 P.M., and at 10.51 per of the society, that the police has the Control Room van reached the to function . spot indicated by the anonymous cal­ SHRI B. K DASCHOWDHURY. ler. Therefore, they did move swiftly. What are the reasons for these crimes? By then, the gentleman who rang up the Police Post Dhuala Kuan had SHRI K. C. PANT: We are making taken both the ladies to the Hospital. a study of the crime situation m Delhi. At 2 A.M., the statement was recorded We have asked the Research bureau and by the next day afternoon, the bus of Police to make a study. had been located and the two suspects SHRI VASANT SATHE (Akola): had been arrested by the police. This The seriousness of tha matter cannot is the sequence of events. He can really be equated with the police by judge for himself. taking a defensive posture Here, the As for taking preventive action, as policemen are in the dock. I agree I explained at some length earlier, the with the hon Minister that, m this circumstances of the case were that case, the police did act swiftly, un­ after all the other passengers has got der the circumstances, and also effi­ out at the terminal point, the driver ciently having taken the due from offered to take the two ladies to the two tickets found m the pockev ol their Army Hospital They got in. the deceased nurse officer But th*» They were only four of them. Then, pioblem does not end here. The pro­ the incident took place I do not blem is not serious in the sense whe­ really know if in sucli cases one can ther the polvca did or did not ae take preventive action. Which is ade­ swiftly, but the problem is serious quate in all cases. This, I would like because these incidents are gettn-; to place before the Lon. Member. multiplied. Withm a short perio'i this is the third incident that has come He referred to the crime figures 0/ before the House, that is agitating the Delhi. This suggestion was for a Com­ mind of the members of this House mission. Not very long ago, we had In an earlier incident in the capital, a Commission. We have implemented the wife of an upcountry official was most of the recommendations of the molested in a private bus near Commission. That matter has come up Munirka village, Ramakrishna Puram before the House time and again, and This victim also died when she jump­ I have given all the facts to the House ed out of the bus. Another victim So, it is not merely the Commission was a college girl who was molested nor merely the police which can put in a DTU bus Now this incident hss these matters right. occurred. Hon Member, Shrimati Sheela Kaul and myself visited the He referred to Delhi having a per­ Military Hospital yesterday to find missive society, and he referred to out what was the real truth from the Indian films and so on. I do not want nurse officer who has regained her to get into a wider argument. If, in consciousness We were surprised to his opinion, Delhi has a permissive hear from her that this was a regular society, then, surely, it cannot be left occurrence, particularly in the mini­ to the police to correct this buses. Why? It is because these- position. They move in later, mini-buses are not properly controlW after certain crimes have taken place by the DTC. The conductors and dri­ or sometimes they are expected to vers of these mini-buses feel that they prevent certain crimes taking plate, are the masters of the road, and th<*r* but the overall values of the society, is nobody to control them. There are It is not for the policemen to make no bus-stops for these mini-buses There are limitations. It as within They stop wherever they like, and Molestation erf CHAITRA X, 131 5: iSAXAi) >f Nursing ®ffl<*6rs in a 178: Mini Bus (C.A.) they, take particular pleasure in teas­ caught hold of both the hands of the ing girls, specially when they find deceased, Pushpa Sood. This is what tfoem alone. Therefore, this problem she saw when she was jumping. cannot be looked at in isolation. Therefore, the matter is really Yesterday, some telephone operator serious. This is a matter which ws girls were telling us that they have to have to consider in the context, r.ot leave their jobs late at night, round­ as a routine, hot as a routine press re­ about 9 O’clock and go to their homes. port and you will say, a routine cail- If this is the state of affairs, what attention, routine reply, routine con­ security are we going to provide them? dolence ahd routine action by the After all they have to work to earn Police. All this ritual is not going to due to the exigencies of the econo­ help. The whole malady, the basic mic circumstances. Are we, there­ malady to be considered and the basic fore, going to say that we are not go­ malady is the erosion of the social and ing to provide any protection to our moral values which is taking place in womenfolk and ladies? I would sub­ our society, and the growth of permis­ mit that in this case, if we cannot sive society. This is on account of the control these mini-buses, then let us fact that we have accepted in this stop them. But you can provide lady country the basic philosophy of ex­ officials. You have lady police staff. ploitation of man by man. Our socio­ It was suggested that lady Police staff economic philosophy, whether we like should make at least surprise checks. it or not, call it by any name—mixed That will be some check. I know the economy, joint sector economy, what­ Minister will say that in the particu­ ever you like, is acquiescing in an. ex­ lar circumstances that might not have ploiting economy and as long as that helped. I am talking of the general thing is there, these are only aber­ effect on the conductors and drivers. rations of that erosion and unless you This is not going to pay unless they are willing to look deeper into the are made to realise that there is some­ basic problem, the position will be body to take them to task. like that. I want to know from the hon. Mini­ Another thing, I would like to bring to your notice is that the injured lady ster one thing. It is no use and it is nurse was telling us that when that no question of the Home Ministry replying, ‘We as Policemen have done bus driver agreed to take them to the hospital, he gave the steering wheel our duty*. That is not what we are to the conductor, stood at the door and asking. As the Home Ministry and then asked the conductor to speed as the Government responsible for away. That scared the girls and when ths entire security, how are you going to rid us of these evils, the socio­ this girl asked, ‘Where are you taking economic problems and the problems us?’, he told her which erode the moral values of our younger generation particularly ? “ spT T5t, 3r$f *rcff ffWr What ar? we going to do about thatr That is the basic question. With this question, I end, Sir. This scared the girl and she told her colleague, 'Let us jump out’ and she SHRI K. C. PANT: He raised the jumpad out when the bus was in full general question of ladies who have to speed. So, she got injured on her work late at night and return home. head, a very severe injury and her I think it is an important question. whole right eye was blood-red and she I would not, on the basis o f this inci­ wasin great pain evenwhile narrating dent before us, conclude that this it. She /laid that while she was jump­ kkind of a thing is happening all the- ing, the driver left the door and Itime. But, that is not the issue now.. 279 Molestation o f MARCH 22, 1978 NttrHng Officers in a M Mini But (CJk.) [Shri K. C. Pant] Before the Ministry recovers from The issue is that, if necessary, sur­ one shock, they allow themselves to prise checks should be organised, but receive another shock due to such on this point he will not doubt types of incidents which are taking appreciate that it may be difficult place in the Capital quite often. administratively to post a police person in every bus. But, to the I would like to ask him whether -extent that surprise checks can be he would appoint a committee to organised, this is a good suggestion review the law and order situation •and I shall certainly see what can be which is growing worse in the Capi­ done on the basis of this suggestion. tal monthwise. Cannot education be imparted to people through organisa­ Then he spoke of the basic malady tions like the taxi-drivers’ associa­ and gave his own view as to why tion, the mini bus drivers organisa­ moral values are being eroded. There tion and other public transport are various aspects of the problem. organisations? I want him to consider I do not think I am fully equipped whether education can be imparted to answer him on this point. The through these organisations, through Bureau is going to investigate so far their leaders etc. Such a Committee as the crime situation is concerned. could even comprise of Members of There is the influence of the home, of Parliament. That committee can re­ education. There is the influence of view the situation from time to time. religion, to mention only three things. Secondly, I would like to ask this. SHRI PILOO MODY (Godhra): There wa«s a Commission. They have All have been interfered with by submitted a report on police train­ ■Government. ing. What steps have been taken by Government to implement the sug­ SHRI K. C. PANT: There is the gestions? To what extent has pro­ socio-economic situation and ethics. gress been made regarding police All those factors are involved and I training? There is no safety even for think it is a complex interplay of the M.Ps. various factors about which one just -cannot give an off-hand answer. We know the case of Maragatham. SHRI D. K. PANDA (Bhanja- We know how her husband was nagar); Under the very nose of the killed by a domestic servant last Home Ministry all these rapes, kid­ year. Therefore; to provide safety nappings, molestations, outraging and security and protection to the modesty of ladies etc, are taking girls m the schools and colleges, I place in the Capital. The most want to know whether the Govern­ serious thing is this. In the most ment is going to take effective steps sacred places of learning, in the uni­ and direct the police to be more alert versities and colleges, such things are and more vigilant in addition to the taking place. We know about the setting up of a committee. incident which took place quite re­ cently when a white Ambassador car As far as the police people are con­ was found and certain things took cerned, I can just sound a note of place in the premises of the colleges. warning so to say. I want to know The Minister expressed some satis­ whether there is some presumption faction that police had acted strictly. which appears to be quite reasonable But I shall just try to draw his atten­ also. A reasonable presumption tion to one fact. He has stated: arises that while the two nurses were moving in the bus itself, and when This has been a tragic and out­ there was harassment and attack* an rageous occurrence which has outrage on modesty, one of them shocked us. could jump out on the way* When xfcx Molestation of CHAITRA 1, 1R99 (/SAKA) Nursing Officers in a 182 Mini Bus (CJL) the bus was moving, we would like routes we post policemen, but that i» to know whether they created any subject to the availability of man­ sound and noise. How can there be power. That is somethin;; which my any satisfaction with regard to the friend will appreciate. These are the activities of the police? They could steps that we have t?ken. I can assure detect afterwards, but before that, on him that there is no complacency in the way, on the main road, when the this case. bus was moving, there was no other Whether the nurses made a noise or force, and can we simply shut our not these are matters of detail for eyes and say that there was absolute­ investigation which I do not want to ly no sound, no hullah, no cry; noth­ go into. All these things will come ing was heard? So, I would say that out in the course of the investigation the hon. Minister should not be so and trial. complacent as to the activities of the police7 At times, big police officers SHRI P. K. DEO (Kalahandi): Mr. are also hand in glove with such big Speaker, Sir, while sharing the con­ businessmen whose cars are found in cern of the previous speakers regard­ the very premises of the university ing the deteriorating law and order and the colleges. Therefore, I would situation in the capital. I would like like to know specifically whether the to say that in a country where great hon. Minister is going to accept the battles have been fought as is seen m suggestions which I have made. the Mahabharata and ‘.he Ramayana to uphold the honour of women, and SHRI K. C. PANT: There is no •especially when there is a woman complacency. The hon Member Prime Minister presiding over the seems to deal simultaneously with destinies of this nation, the horrible two different incidents: one involving story of molestation of women and a car and the other which is this eve-teasingl and their becjbming vic­ particular incident under discussion. tims of all sorts of crimes, is really shocking. So far as the Commission on police training is concerned, it has given its Sir, just now the Minister said report only recently, and we are something about the non-availability examining the report, and at this of man-power of the police force. We stage I cannot i>ay anything further all know the amount of policemen because it is under examination. He either in uniform or in plain-clothes who are being deployed for the pro­ has suggested a committee. I do not tection of the V.I.Ps., Ministers and know what purpose the committee so many other persons and the amount will serve, but his idea of talking to of police personnel being employed the leaders of the trade union people to disperse and to obstruct the peace­ or the leaders of organisations to deal ful demonstrations of various political with these matters is certainly one parties as also the amount of plain- which I shall consider. clothed personnel that is being em­ He wants to know the staps that ployed in the Congress Party meetings have already been taken and I have where they even outnumber the spelt them out on the last occasion in audience. Taking all these into con­ the House, including the contact which sideration, I would like to know what the ssnior police officers keep with steps the Government are going to the principals of the educational insti­ take to streamline the entire police tutions for girls, and the posting of administration so that they do their policemen near places where dirls primary job maintaining law and are likely to accumulate, come in order? If things are better in the l*rg* numbers, that is, outside schools States, is he going to contemplate and colleges, and in market places giving statehood to the Union Terri­ and near bus stops; and, as far as tory of Delhi so that things may im­ possible, even in buses on the major prove? 183 Molestation, of Nursing MAfttiH 22, 1078 Papers Laid t«a Omters in a Mini Bus (C.A.) » [Shri P. K. Deo3 go there and they arrived at the spot My second question is this. It came very quickly. He wanted to know to such a sorry state of affairs that the sections. The case was initially those victims could only be detected registered under sections 354 and 304 by a passer-by. I would like to know IFC. But later these were amended if there are any flying squads on the to section 302, 366, 354 and 304 IPC. Ring Road and why they did not take I do not think it is feasible to have notice of this and pass on the informa- a law under which you can force a lion regarding this tragic incident? scooter driver to take any passenger to a place where the scooter driver Finally I would like to know what does not want to go for sufficient and are the sections under which investi­ good reason. gations that are taking place. The entire incident would not have hap­ SHRI P. K. DEO: About nen-avail- pened if the scooter driver had not ability of police personnel, these refused to take these two passengers police personnel are employed on um- in his scooter. There is no law here teen useless jobs but they are not which prevents the scooter drivers or employed for maintenance of law and taxi drivers from refusing to carry the order. He has not answered that. 'passengers. These are my points and ’I would like the hon. Minister to ans­ SHRI K. C. PANT: He wants me wer them categorically. to answer about matters which he knows fully well are not entirely SHRI K. C. PANT: Sir, my, hon. within my control. If there are agi­ friend began by referring to the tations in Delhi which are likely to honoured place of woman in the create law and order situations, police Indian Society. He narrated the cases have to be diverted. He will be the of molestation of woman. In our first to say that I have not done my society this honoured place is already duty if I did not take enough pre­ there. This is not a new occurrence. cautions. These things have happened. It is true that our society holds the woman SHRI P. K. DEO : What about in high esteem and it is also true that VIPs and Ministers’ protection? such incidents have happened. One SHRI K. C. PANT: That is also hon. Member said that Adivasis in something which is known to all Orissa had been molested. I would State Governments. He may consult say that it is creditable for the Prime his colleagues in Orissa when they Minister to be presiding at the centre. formed a Government and find out if My hon. friend had also the chance of they did not find the necessity for a woman Member presiding over the having security personnel for Minis­ State. But, he had lost the chance. f ters. (Interruptions) Talking about the Statehood I would say that I do not know as to how 12.52 hrs. this has arisen. The answer is ‘no’. PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE SHRI P. K. DEO: My point is that R e v ie w and A n n u a l R eport of things are much better in the States. M anganese O re (I n d ia ) L td., N agpur SHRI K. C. PANT: He then men­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE tioned about a passer-by being present MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES ■when the incident took place but there (SHRI SUBODH HANSDA): I beg was no flying squad. to lay on the Table a copy each I have indicated that as soon as the of the following papers (Hindi and information was received by the Cen­ English versions) under sub-section tral Control Room, the flying squad (1) of section 619 A of the Companies near about that area was directed to Act, 1056:— 3TB5 Paper® Laid , CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SARK} Committee on Absence 186 of Members—Report (i) Review by the Government (2) A copy each of the fpllowing on the working, of ihe Manganese Notifications (Hindi and English Ore (India) Limited, Nagpur, for versions) under section 7A of the the year 1971-72. Coal Mines Provident Fund, Fami­ ly Pension and Bonus Scheme Act, (ii) Annual Report of the Manga­ * 1948:— nese Ore (India) Limited, Nagpur, for the year 1971-72, along with (i) The Coal Mines Bonus the Audited Accounts and the com­ (Amendment) Scheme 1972, pub­ ments ol the Comptroller and lished in Notification No G.S.R. Auditor General thereon. 501(E) in Gazette of India dated the 30th December, 1972. tPlaced in Library. See No. LT- (ii) The Andhra Pradesh Coal -4552/73 ] Mines Bonus (Amendment) R eview and A n n u a l R eport of B h a ­ Scheme, 1972, published in Noti­ rat A l u m i n i u m C o . L td., N e w D elhi fication No. G.S.R. 502(E) in Gazette of India dated the 30th THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE December, 1972. MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (iii) The Assam Coal Mines (SHRI SUKHDEV PRASAD): I beg Bonus (Am ’ndment) Scheme, to lay on the Table a copy each of the 1972, published in Notification following papers (Hindi and English versions) under sub-section (1) cf No. G.S.R. 503(E) in Gazette of section 619A of the Companies Act, India dated the 30th December, 1956: — 1972. (iv) The Rajasthan Coal Mines (i) Review by the Government Bonus (Amendment) Scheme, on the working of the Bharat Alu­ 1972, published in Notification minium Company Limited, New No G.S.R. 504(E) in Gazette of Delhi, for the year 1971-72. India dated the 30th December, 1972. [Placed in Library. See (ii) Annual Report of the Bharat No. LT-4555/73.] Aluminium Company Limited, Nevi Delhi, for the year 1971-72 along 12.54 hrs. with the Audited Accounts and the •comments of the Comptroller and ESTIMATES COMMITTEE Auditor General thereon. Thirty-third Report “'I Placed in Library. See No. LT- SHRI NARENDRA SINGH BISHT -4553/71] (Almora): I beg to present the Thirty-third Report of the Estimates Annual Report of Central Board Committee regarding action taken by for W orkers’ Education, 1971-72, and Government on the recommendations Notifications under Coal Mines Pro­ contained in their Thirteenth Report vident Fund, Family Pension and on the Ministry of Health and Bonus Scheme Act, 1948 Family Planning (Department ol Family Planning)—Family Planning THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Programme. MINISTRY OF LABOUR AND REHA­ BILITATION (SHRI G. VENKATA- COMMITTEE ON ABSENCE OF SWAMY): I beg to lay on the MEMBERS FROM THE SITTING Table:— OF THE HOUSE Ninth Report (1) A copy of the Annual Report (Hindi and English versions) of the SHRI S, C. SAMANTA (Tamluk): •'Central Board for Workers’ Educa­ I beg to present the Ninth Report of tion for the year 1971-72. [Placed the Committee m Absence of Mem* in Library. See No. LT-4554/73.] bers from the Sittings of the House. i 87 MARCH 22, 1973 Guru Goblnd Sindh College, 18S Taridabad (St.) lZJUt hrs. would ^ up with the Chief Minis* ter of Haryana the question of taking STATEMENT RE. GURU GOBIND leg*l action against the management SINGH MEDICAL COLLEGE, of the college. FARIDABAD

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Khadilkar. Since taking over the charge of the Health Ministry I have also gone into* THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND the matter carefully. As the House FAMILY PLANNING (SHRI R. K. is aware, undergraduate medical edu­ KHADILKAR): It is a four-page cation is a State subject. It would statement. Shall I place it on the therefore, not be possible for the Table? Government of India to intervene directly in the matter. MR. SPEAKER: You are running temperature. The statement should be such that it should bring down However, in pursuance of the your temperature. If it will run stitemcnt made xn this House, my higher after reading it, don’t read predecessor had requested the Chief it. Ministers of Punjab and Haryana to explore the possibility of charitable SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR: Sir, trusts taking interest in the manage­ the House will recall that on 7th ment of the college. I also followed March, 1973 while speaking on the up the matter with the two Chief affairs of the so-called Guru Gobind Ministers. The outcome of our efforts Singh Medical College, Faridabad, I has unfortunately not been encourag­ had promised to make a further ing. It seems fairly clear now that statement about the results of the there is no possibility of any existing effort that were being made to find charitable organisation or a new one a solution to the problems created by taking over the management of this this institution. College.

To set matters in perspective, I Seats in medical colleges are limit­ would invite the attention of the hon. ed and thy are under the control of Members to the statements made in State Governments and other autho­ the House on this subject by my pre­ rities concerned. They are filled by decessor on 30th November, 1972, and well-established and prescribed pro­ later on 19th December, 1972 In cedures. It is only the best students, these statements he had bi ought out m most cases securing well 6ver 60 all the relevant facts of this unfortu­ per cent of marks, that are able to nate affair, which need not be repeat­ get admission. In contrast, most of ed here. My predecessor had stated the students who bought their places early that the Union Government was in this so-called medical college are not in a position to take over an reported to have obtained much undergraduate Medical College. How­ lower marks and could not have nor­ ever, referring to a statement made mally secured admission to any by an hon. Member that some dona­ recognised medical college in the tions could be raised, he had stated country. When a much larger num­ that “if a trust can be registered or ber of students in the country with constituted and if charitable and pub­ much better marks are not being able lic spirited gentlemen interested in to secure admission in medical col­ the education of students in Punjab leges because of the limited number and Haryana and perhaps also in of seats, the House Will appreciate Delhi combine together, then suffi­ that it Is not possible to give any cient initial funds can be raised— preferential treatment to the stu­ anA then perhaps some way can be dents of the Guru Gobind Singh < found”. He had also stated that he Medical College. i 8q Guru Gobind CHAITRA 1. 1895 (SAKA) Singh College, 190 * Faridabad (St.) There are medical colleges in the (Interruptions). country where admissions are made through competitive* examinations on 18.00 hrs. an all-India basis. My sincere advice to my yound friends, who have under­ MR. SPEAKER: When the Minister taken a hunger strike, would be to makes a statement, the rule; comes in work hard and take their chances for the way. What I propose to do is to admission to these colleges in the fix up some short-duration discussion. forthcoming session. Instead of making long speeches, you can give your views on it briefly. Anyway, this question is not coming The House has been exercised about to some settlement. a large number of young students having been duped- I fully share the sentiments of the hon. Members. The SHRI PILOO MODY (Godhra): Chief Minister of Haryana has recent­ If you would permit me to make a ly communicated to me the result of submission, it was understood clearly the enquiries instituted by his Gov­ by all sections of the House that when ernment. In this case since the the Minister comes lorward and money is alleged to have been collect­ makes a statement over here, he ed by the management of the College might also have in the statement at their branch in Delhi and the germs of some solution I saw there Society itself was registered at Patna, was absolutely no solution in his four- the alleged transactions of the Society page statement. are of an inter-State character. The Haryana Government have, therefore, requested that the investigation of the Not only there is no germ of a case should be entrusted to the solution m his statement but the boys Central Bureau of Investigation. This themselves have offered, their parents is being done. have offered, “we will form a society and manage the Institute ourselves”, even that he has not put in his state­ ment. He has not said that this has 1 would like to assure the House happened as a development He has that no effort will be spared to deal suppressed that fact m his statement. effectively under the law with the persons or organisation responsible for MR SPEAKER: May I request you, creating this unfortunate situation. when we have a short duration dis­ To ensure that in future students are not duped in a similar manner, the cussion, you can give all these sug­ Government of India has taken up gestions at that time? with the State Governments the ques­ tion of banning admissions on the basis of capitation fees and the open­ SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR: Sir, a ing of sub-standard medical colleges wrong impression is being created.. through suitable legislation on an all India basis. MR. SPEAKER: You can* take it up during the short-duration discus­ (Interruptions). sion. Dono’t complicate it further.

Now, there is a matter to be raised MR. SPEAKER: What are you doing? If you do not want to listen under Rule 877. Shri S, M. Banerjee; let us to go to the next item. only one or two minutes each. 3983 L S— 7 I9 i MARCH 22, 1073 Re. Adulterated Milo from USA *92 RE. MILO IMPORTED FROM U.S.A. SHRI BHOGBNDRA JHA (Jai- nagar): The Minister should make SHRI S. N. BANERJEE (Kanpur): a statement on it— (Interruptions). Sir, with your permission, I want to raise a very important matter. The other day, we discussed in this MR. SPEAKER: Don’ t be impa­ House, and there was a Call Attention tient. There is also another hon. Notice, a very serious matter about Member who has given notice on the mixing of dhatura seeds in milo pur­ same subject chased from U.S.A. Today, we read to the Patriot. Shri Shyamnandan Mishra. “Government to buy more milo from U.S. SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA The Government will go ahead (Begusarai): Two issues arise out with the purchase of about 300,000 of the report which has appeared m tonnes of milo still to be bought from the newspapers today. If the Govern­ the US out of about 400,000 tonnes ment has taken a decision to continue contracted for, notwithstanding the the import of the milo which is mixed detection of dhatura seeds in them, with dhatura, then it is quite ob­ reports, UNI. vious that the Government is now The Political Affairs Committee admitting the responsibility for hav­ of the Union Cabinet which dis­ ing entered into a contract with the cussed the issue on Wednesday full knowledge of the quality of the decided to honour the contract.” seed. That was what the spokesman of the U.S. Government had said last Sir, it was admitted that there was week Now it, as they euphemistical­ dhatura mixed in it. ly say, they have to honour the con­ tract and so on, they have also to When all the sections of the House, realise the fact that they would be when all the Members irrespective of injuring the health and lives of mil­ their political affiliations, the other lions. day, fell concerned about the pur­ chase of milo from USA, the hon. Minister, Shri F. A. Ahmed, wanted The second point which arises out to justify it. Now, we find, even of this is that the Government, last the Political Affairs Committee of the time, had assured us that they would Cabinet has decided to purchase fully go into this matter and make a another 300,000 tonnes of milo because statement in the House. We have there is a contract and they want to waited for more than ten days, but honour it. The Political Affairs Com­ no statement has come from the Gov­ mittee has not got more powers than ernment on this subject. This has, the powers of this House. therefore, caused us a great deal of concern and anxiety. I would request you to ask the Minister to make a statement. Shri Shinde is here. I want an assurance MR. SPEAKER: Will the Minister from him that this will not be pur­ be able to make a statement just now chased as long as it is not discussed or will he make it later on? in Parliament. We are all opposed to it. They cannot purchase it to honour THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the contract at the cost of the peo­ MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE ple There must be gome shady deal. (SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE): We have to unearth the shady deal. We shall make a statement later on. It should not be allowed to be pur­ But what Mr. Qanerjee says is not chased. correct. (Interruptions). 393 Andhra Budget, CHAITRA 1, 1885 (SAKAq D, G. (on A cci.) & 194 jr D. S. G. X 13.12 b n , allowed for this discusion is not suffi­ cient, Sir. I request that it may ME. ARREST OF DEMONSTRATORS please be extended. AT CHANDIGARH D e m an d N o. I— L a n d Rcvsmn: SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Dia­ mond Harbour): Sir, the authorities MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: •of the Union Territory of Chandi­ garh are taking an unwarranted step •of arresting, without atiy valid rea­ “That a sum not exceeding son, peaceful demonstrators agitat­ Rs. 2,14,80,000 be granted to the ing against price rise and unemploy­ President on account, out of the ment m order to draw the attention Consolidated Fund of the State of of the Government of Punjab and its Andhra Pradesh, to defray the Assembly. Yesterday, about 400 such charges which will come in course demonstrators, belonging to my party, of payment during the year endmg agitating against rising prices and un­ the 31st day of March, 1974, in employment, were arrested near Sec­ respect of ‘Land Revenue’." tor 22 on the pretext that the on masse crossing of the road on the D e m a n d No II—E x cis e Department base of the Capital complex was pro­ hibited. The Union Territory autho­ MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved* rities have hung a huge sign-board declaring that procession on this point “That a sum not exceeding is prohibited. I cannot understand, Rj> 98,56,000 be granted to the when people agitate against their own President on account, out of the State Government on people’s issues, Consolidated Fund of the State of why the Central Government should Andhra Pradesh, to defray the come in between and take recourse charges which will come in course to repressive methods Will you of payment during the year ending please direct the Home Minister to the 31st day of March, 1974, in assure this House that this will not respect of ‘Excise Department’ ” be repeated again, and also to make a statement on this? D em an d No III—T a x e s o n V e h i c l e s MR SPEAKER: Motion moved. U 19 hrs. "That a sum not exceeding ANDHRA PRADESH BUDGET, 1973- Rs. 12,97,000 be granted to the 74—GENERAL DISCUSSION, •DE­ President on account, out of the MANDS FOR GRANTS ON AC­ Consolidated Fund of the State of COUNT, 1873-74, AND SUPPLE­ Andhra Pradesh, to defray the MENTARY "DEMANDS FOR charges which will come in course GRANTS 1972-73 of payment during the year ending the 31st day of March* 1974* in MR. SPEAKER* The House will respect of "Taxes on vehicles’.*' now take up the General Discussion on the Budget for the State of D e m a n d N o i v -S ax.e s T a x A d m i n i s ­ Andhra Pradesh for the year 1973-74 t r a t io n The time fixed is three hours MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH “That a sum no* exceeding (Nandyal): The time of three hours Rs. 55,95,000 be granted to the ••Moved with the recommendation of the President Andhra Budget, MARCH 22, 1973D. G. (on Acct.) DS.G. 196

[Mr. Speaker] D em an d No. VIII—State Legislature President on account, out of the MR, SPEAKER: Motion moved: Consolidated Fund of the State of “That a sum not exceeding Andhra Pradesh, to defray the Rs. 26,08,000 be granted to the charges which will come in course President on account, out of the of payment during the year ending Consolidated Fund of the State of the 31st day of March, 1974, in Andhra Pradesh, to defray the respect of ‘Sales Tax Administra­ charges which will come in course tion'.” of payment during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1974, in D em a n d No. V—Other Taxes and respect of ‘State Legislature’.” Duties Administration Demand No. IX—Heads of State, MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: M in iste r s and H ead Q uarters S ta f f

“That a sum not exceeding MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: Rs. 3,00,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the “That a sum not exceeding Consolidated Fund of the State of Rs. 1.91,29.000 be granted to the Andhra Pradesh, to defray the P resid en t on account, out of the charges which will come in course Consolidated Fund of the State of of payment during the year ending Andhra Pradesh, to defray the the 31st day of March, 1974, in charges which will come in course respect of ‘Other Taxes and Duties of payment during the year ending Administration’.” the 31st day of March, 1974, in respcet of ‘Heads of State, Minis Demand No. VI—Stamps Adminis­ ters and Headquarters Staff’." t r a t io n

D e m a n d N o X — D istrict A d m in is t r a ­ MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: tion and M iscellaneous “That a sum not exceeding MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: Rs. 9,33,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the “That a sum not exceeding Consolidated Fund of the State of Rs. 4,74,93,000 be granted to the Andhra Pradesh, to defray the President on account, out of the charges which will come in course Consolidated Fund of the State of of payment during the year ending Andhra Pradesh, to defray the the 3ist day of March, 1974, in charges which will come in course respect of ‘Stamps Administration’." of payment during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1974, in Demand No. VII—-Registration De­ respect of ‘District Administration p a r tm e n t and Miscellaneous’.”

MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved. D e m a n d N o. X I — A dministration of J u stice “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 25,86,000 be granted to tha MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of tibe State of “That a sum not exceeding Andhra Pradesh, to defray the Rs. 99,40,000 be granted to the charges which will come in course President on account, out of the of payment during the year ending Consolidated Fund at the State of the 31st day of March, 1974, in Andhra Pradesh, to defray the respect of ‘Registration Depart­ charges which will come in course ment*.” of payment during the year ending; 197 Andhra Budget, CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKAq D.G, (onA cct.) & 19g

the 31st day of March, 1974, in President on account, out of the - respect of 'Administration of Consolidated Fund of the State of Justice’.” Andhra Pradesh, to defray the charges which will come in course D e m a n d No. XII—J a i l s ot payment during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1974, in MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: respect of ‘Miscellaneous Depart- ments’.” "That a sum not exceeding Rs. 49,15,000 be* granted to the President on account, out of the D em a n d No, XVI—M in e s an d Consolidated Fund of the State of Archaeology etc. Andhra Pradesh, to defray the charges which will come in course MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: of payment during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Jails’.” “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 17,16,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the D em an d No XIII—P o l i c e Consolidated Fund of the State of MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: Andhra Pradesh, to defray the charges which will come in course “That a sum not exceeding of payment during the year ending Rs 6,37,35,000 be granted to the the 31st day of March, 1974, in President on account, out of the respect of ‘Mines and Archaeology Consolidated Fund of the State of etc’.” Andhra Pradesh, to defray the charges which will come in course D em an d No. XVII—E d u ca tio n of payment during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1974. in respect of ‘Police’.” MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved:

D em an d No XIV—Commerce and “That a sum not exceeding E xpor t P r o m o t io n D e p a r t m e n t , Rs. 26,33,29,000 be granted to the W eights an d M easures, etc. President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: Andhra Pradesh, to defray the charges which will come in course “That a sum not exceeding of payment during the year ending Rs. 44,08,000 be granted to the the 31st day of March, 1974, in President on account, out of the respect of 'Education’.” Consolidated Fund of the State of Andhra Pradesh, to defray the D em and N o XVIII—M e d ica l charges which will come in course of payment during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1974, in MR. SPEAKER* Motion moved: respect of ‘Commerce and Export Promotion Department Weights and ‘That a sum not exceeding Measures etc’.” Rs. 6.35,27,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the D e m a n d N o , X V - —Miscellaneous De­ Consolidated Fund of the State of p a r tm e n ts Andhra Pradesh, to defray the charges which will come in course MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: of payment during the year ending *7 hat a sum not exceeding the 31st day of March, 1974, in Us. 74,77,000 be granted to the respect of ‘Medical’.” 199 Andhra Budget, MARCH 22, 1978 &.G.(onA:ci)&DJ3£i. *oO>

D e m a n d No. XIX—Public Health Demand No. XXIII—Co-OFWAXigw A»n Fam ily Planning MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: “That a sum not exceeding “That a turn not exceeding Rs. 83,52,000 be granted to the Rs. 4,37,72,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the* President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of Consolidated Fund of the State of Andhra Pradesh, to defray the Andhra Pradesh, to defray the charges which will come in course charges which will come in course of payment during the year ending of payment during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1974, in the 31st day of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Co-operation’.” respect of ‘Public Health and Family Planning’.” D em an d No. XXIV—In d u s tr ie s MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: Demand No. XX—Agriculture “That a sum not exceeding MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: Rs. 95,73,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the “That a sum not exceeding Consolidated Fund of the State o f Rs. 3,44,76,000 be granted to the Andhra Pradesh, to defray the President on account, out of the charges which will come in course Consolidated Fund of the State of of payment during the year ending Andhra Pradesh, to defray the the 31st day of March, 1974, in charges which will come in course respect of ‘Industries’.” of payment during the year ending the 3Vst day of March, 1974, in Demand No. XXV—C o m m u n ity respec<. 0f ‘Agriculture’.” Development Projects National Ex­ tension Service and Local Develop­ Demand No. XXI—Fisheries m e n t W o r k s MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: * MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: “Thut a sum not exceeding “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 49,35,000 be granted to the Rs. 3,62,50,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of Consolidated Fund of the State of Andhi a Pradesh, to defray the Andhra Pradesh, to defray the charges which will come in course charges which will come in course of payment during the year ending of payment during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1974, in the 31st day of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Fisheries’.” respect of ‘Community Development Projects National Extension Ser­ D e m a n d N o. XXII—A n im a l vice and Development Works’.” H usban d ry D em a n d No. XXVI—Labour and Em ­ MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: p lo y m e n t “That a sum not exceeding MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: Rs. 2,16,31,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the “That a sum not exceeding Consolidated Fund of the State of Rs. 70,98,000 be granted to the Andhra Pradesh, to defray the President on account, out of the charges Which will come in course Consolidated fund of the State of of payment during the year ending Andhra Pradesh, to defray the , the day of March, 1974, in charges which will come in course respect of ‘Animal Husbandry’." of payment during the year ending 20i Andhra Budget, CHAITRA 1, 1805 (SAKA) D. G. (on Acct.) 4 202 D. S. G. the 31st day of March, 1974, in D em and No. XXX—Interest on respelt of 'Labour And Employ­ C a p it a l O u tla y o n M ultipurpose ment'” R iver S ch em es MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: Demand No. XXVII— Other Miscel­ laneous Social and Developmental “That a sum not exceeding Organisations Rs. 4,21,85,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: Consolidated Fund of the State of Andhra Pradssh, to defray the "That a sum not exceeding charges which will come in course Rs. 31,55,000 be granted to the of payment during the year ending President on account, out of the the 31st day of March, 1974, in Consolidated Fund of the State of respect of ‘Interest on Capital Out­ Andhra Pradesh, to defray the lay on Multipurpose River charges which will come in course Schemes'.1' of payment during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1974, in D em an d No. XXXI—-Irrigation respect of ‘Other Miscellaneous Social and Developmental Organisa­ MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: tions’.'' “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 8,93,16,000 be granted to the Demand No. XXVIII—Women’s W el­ President on account, out of the fare Department, etc. Consolidated Fund of the State of Andhra Pradesh, to defray the MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: charges which will come in course of payment during the year ending ‘That a sum not exceeding the 31st day of March, 1974, in Rs. 18\55,000 be granted to the respect of ‘Irrigation’." President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of D em and No. XXXII—Electricity Andhra Pradesh, to defray the MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: charges which will come in course of payment during the year ending “That a sum not exceeding the 31st day of March, 1974, in Rs. 3,21,12.000 be granted to the respect of ‘Women’s Welfare De­ President on accountt out of the partment etc.’.” Consolidated Fund of the State of Andhra Pradesh, to defray the D em a n d No. XXIX—Welfare of charges which will come in course Scheduled Tribes, Castes and other of payment during the year ending Backward Classes the 31st day of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Electricity’.” MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: D em an d N o . XXXIII—P u b lic W o r k s “That a sum not exceeding MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: Rs. 5,04,37,000 b e granted to the President on account, out of the “That a sum not exceeding Consolidated Fund of the State of Rs. 6,91,93,000 be granted to the Andhra Pradesh, to defray the President on account, out of the charges which will come in course Consolidated Fund Of the State of of payment during the year ending Andhra Pradesh, to defray the the 31st day of March, 1974. in charges which will come in cou rse respect of 'Welfare of S cheduled of payment during th t year ending Tribes, Castes and Other Backward the Slst day of March, 1974, in Classes?’ respect of *Publfc WtvktV 203 Andhra Budget, MARCH 22, 1973 D, G. (on A rot) & DS.G. 204

[Mr. Speaker] D e m a n d No. XXXVUI—Paivr Pprsm and Allow ances or Indian Rulers Demand No. XXXIV—Ports and P ilo t a g e MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved:

MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: “That a sum not exceeding “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 8,000 be granted to to Rs. 24,84,000 be granted to the Pre­ President on account, out of the sident on account, otft of the Consolidated Fund of the State of Consolidated Fund of the State of Andhra Pradesh, to defray the Andhra Pradesh, to defray the charges which will come in course charges which will come in course of payment during the year ending of payment during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1974, in the 31st day of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Privy Purses and Allow­ respect ‘Ports and Pilotage'.” ances of Indian Rulers’.”.

Demand No. XXXV—Famine Relief D em an d No. XXXIX—Stationery and P r in tin g MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: “That a sum not exceeding MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: Rs. 1,60,84,000 be granted to the “That a sum not exceeding President on account, out of the Rs. 76,12,000 be granted to the Consolidated Fund of the State of President on account, out of the Andhra Pradesh, to defray the Consolidated Fund of the State of charges which will come m i.oursc Andhra Pradesh, to defray the of payment during the year ending charges which will come in course the 31st day of March, 1974, in of payment during the year ending respect of ‘Famine Relief.”. the 31st day of March, 1974, m Demand No. XXXVI—P e n s io n s respect of ‘Stationery and Print­ ing’.”. MR. SPEAKER Motion moved: D em and No XL—Forest Department “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 2,23,87,000 be granted to the MR. SPEAKER. Motion moved: President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of “That a sum not exceeding Andhra Pradesh, to defray the Rs. 2,01,17,000 be granted to the charges which will come in course President on account, out of the of payment during the year ending Consolidated Fund of the State of the 31st day of March, 1974, in Andhra Pradesh, to defray the respect of 'Pensions'.”. charges which will come in course of payment during the year ending Demand No. XXXVII—Territorial the 31st day of March, 1974, in and Political Pensions respect of ‘Forest Department.”.

MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: D em a n d No. XLI—M iscellaneous

“That a sum not exceeding MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: Rs. 1,31,000 be granted to the “That a sum not exceeding President on account. out of the Rs. 4,72,65,000 be granted to the Consolidated Fund of the State of President on account, out of the Andhra Pradesh, to defray the Consolidated Fund of the State of charges which will come in course Andhra Pradesh, to defray the of payment during the year ending charges which will come in course the 31st day of March, 1974, in of payment during the year ending respect of ‘Territorial and Political the 31st day of March, 1974, in Pensions’.”. respect of 'Miscellaneous’.’’. 20< Andhra Budget, CHAITRA 1, 1895 {SAKAq D.G . (on Acct.) & 206 D. S. G. D em an d N o. X L E l— Municipal Admj> charges which will come in course NISTRATION of payment during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1974, in MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: respect of ‘Capital Outlay on Im­ provement of Public Health’.”. "That a sum not exceeding Rs. 35,19,000 be granted to the D em an d No. XLVI—Capital Outlay President on account, out of the on Schemes op Agricultural Impro­ Consolidated Fund of the State of vement and Research Andhra Pradesh, to defray the charges which will come in course MR. SPEAKER*. Motion moved: of payment during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1974, in “That a sum not exceeding respect of ‘Municipal Administra­ Rs. 2,00,000 be granted to the tion'/’. President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of Demand No. XLIII—Other M iscella­ Andhra Pradesh, to defray the neous Compensations and Assign­ charges which will come in course m e n ts of payment during the year ending MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: the 31st day of March, 1974, m respect of ’Capital Outlay on “That a sum not exceeding Schemes of Agricultural Improve­ Rs. 2,86,35,000 be granted to the ment and Research’.”. President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of D em and No. XLVII—Capital Outlay Andhra Pradesh, to defray the on Industrial and Economic Deve­ charges which will come in course lo p m e n t of payment during the year onding the 31st day of March, 1974, in MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: respect of ‘Other Miscellaneous Compensations and Assignment’.”. “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 2,30,18,000 be granted to the D e m a n d N o. XLIV—C ompensation to Consolidated Fund of the State of Z a m in d a r s President on account, out of the MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: Andhra Pradesh, to defray the charges which will come in course “That a sum not exceeding of payment during the year ending Rs. 2,97,000 be granted to the the 31st day of March, 1374, m President on account, out of the respect of ‘Capital Outlay on Indus­ Consolidated Fund of the State of trial and Economic Development’.’’. Andhra Pradesh, to defray the charges which will come in course D em a n d No. XLVIII—Capital Outlay of payment during the year ending on Multipurpose River Schemes the 31st day of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Compensation to Zamin­ MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: dars’/ ’. “That a sum not exceeding D e m a n d N o . X L V — C a p ita l O u tla y on Rs. 1,88,33.000 be granted to the I m p r o v e m e n t o f P ublic H ealth President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of MR, SPEAKER: Motion moved: Andhra Pradesh, to defray the “That a sum not exceeding charges which will come in course Rs, 1,22,39,000 be granted to the of payment during the year ending President on account, out of the the 31st day of March, 1974, in Consolidated Fund of the State of respect of ‘Capital Outlay on Multi­ Andhra Pradesh, to defray the purpose River Schemes’ .” . 207 ‘Attrfh’ tt Budget, MARCH 23, 1*73 © .&

[Mr. Speaker] charges which will casme In course of payment during the year ending Dema m ) No. XLIX-—Capital Outlay the Slot day of March, 1974, in ON IRRIGATION respect of

MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: D e m a n d No. LOT—Caoteal O ytur on F o r s b ts “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 5,78,85,000 be granted to the MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of “That a sum not exceeding Andhra Pradesh, to defray the Rs, 72,000 be granted to the charges which will come in course President on account, out of the of payment during the year ending Consolidated Fund of the State of the 31st day of March, 1974, in Andhra Pradesh, to defray the respect of ‘Capital Outlay on Irriga­ charges which will come in course of payment during the year ending tion’.”. the 31st day of March, 1974, in D em an d No. L—Capital Outlay on respect of ‘Capital Outlay on Electricity Schemes Forests’.”.

MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: D em an d No. LIV —Commuted Value o f P e n s io n s “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 1,53,80,000 be granted to the MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of “That a sum not exceeding Andhra Pradesh, to defray the Rs 15,00,000 be granted to the charges which will come m course President on account, out of the of payment during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1974, in Consolidated Fund of the State of respect of ‘Capital Outlay on Elec­ Andhra Pradesh, to defray the tricity Schemes*.”, charges which will come in course of payment during the year ending D e m a n d No. LI—Capital Outlay on Public Works the 31st day of March, 1974, in MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: respect of ‘Commuted Value of Pensions’.”. “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 1,72,14,000 be granted to the D e m a n d N o. L V — C a p it a l O u t l a y o n President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of S c h e m e s o f G o v e r n m e n t T rading Andhra Pradesh, to defray the MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: charges which will come in course of payment during the year ending “That a sum not exceeding the 31st day of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Capital Outlay on Public Rs. 8,61,75,000 be granted to the Works1.”. President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of Demand No. LII—Other Works Andhra Pradesh, to defray the MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: charges which will come in course “That a sum not exceeding of payment during the year ending Rs 57,000 be granted to the the 31st day of March, 1974, in President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of respect of Capital Outlay on Andhra Pradesh, to defray the Schemes of Government Trading’.”. 209 Antihra&udgct, CHAITRA1,1885 (SAKA* D.G. (on Acct.) & 21O

D cm a k s No. LVI—Loans and Advances D em and No. X —District Administra­ by the State Government tion and Miscellaneous

ME. SPEAKER: Motion moved: MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: “That a sum not exceeding “That a Supplementary sum not Ks. 0,20,76,000 be granted to the exceeding Rs. 1,35,800 be granted to President on account, out of the the President out of the Consolidated Consolidated Fund of the State of Fund of the State of Andhra Andhra Pradesh, to defray the Pradesh to defray the charges, charges which will come in course which will come in course of of payment during the year ending payment during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1974, in res­ the 31st day of March, 1973, m pect of ‘Loans and Advances by the respect of ‘District Administration State Government’.". and Miscellaneous’.".

Demand No. II—Excise Depart­ D em and No. XII—J a ils m e n t MR, SPEAKER: Motion moved: MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: “That a Supplementary sum not “That a Supplementary sum not exceeding Re. 200 be granted to exceeding Rs. 4,73,900 be granted to the President out of the Consolidated the President out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of Andhra Fund of the State of Andhra Pradesh to defray the charges Pradesh to defray the charges which will come in course of which will come in course of payment during the year ending payment during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1973, in the 31st day of March, 1973, in respect of Excise Department’.”. respect of ‘Jails’.”.

Demand No. VIII—State Legislature D em an d No. XIII—P o l i c e MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: “That a Supplementary sum not “That a Supplementary sum not exceeding Rs. 3,17,600 be granted to exceeding Rs. 1,90,00,000 be granted the President out of the Consolidated to the President out of the Consoli­ Fund of the State of Andhra dated .Fund of the State of Andhra Pradesh to defray the charges Pradesh to defray the charges which will come m course of pay­ which will come in course of ment during the year ending the payment during the .year ending 31st day of March, 1973, in respect the 31st day of March, 1973, in of *State Legislature’.”. respect of ‘Police’.”. D emand N o. IX—H eads of S tate, M in iste r s a n d H eadquarters S taff D em and No. XVII—E ducation MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: “That a Supplementary sum not exceeding Rs. 1,07,700 be granted to “That a Supplementary sum not the President out of the Cohsolidated exceeding Rs. 1,24,54.400 be Ranted Fund of the State of Andhra to the President out of the Consoli­ Pradesh to defray the charges dated Fund of the State bf whfch will come in course of Pradesh to defray the charges payment during the year ending which will come of the day of March, 1973, in payment during' the; . y^fe:"'/fefcding respect at ‘Beads of State, Ministers the 31st day In Headquarters Staff.”, respect .of. 3 U Andhra Budget, MARCH 22, 1973 D.G, (on Aort.) & OJS.G, 213,

[Mr. Speaker] Pradesh to d«fr*y the charges which will come in course of Demand No. XIX—Public Health and payment during the year ending F a m x u t P la K n in c the 31st day of March, 1973, in respect of ‘Co-operation’.”. MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: Demand No. XXIV— Industries “That a Supplementary sum not exceeding Rs. 12,43,000 be granted to MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: the President out of the Consolidated “That a Supplementary sum not Fund of- the State of Andhra Pradesh to defray the charges exceeding Rs. 9,36,000 be granted to which will come in course of the President out of the Consolidated payment during the year ending Fund of the State of Andhra Pradesh to defray the charges the 31st day of March, 1973, in respect of ‘Public Health and Family which will come in course of payment during the year ending Planning'.** the 31st day of March, 1973, in respect of ‘Industries’.”. Demand No. XX—Agriculture

MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: Demand No. XXV—Community De­ velopment Projects, National Ex­ “That a Supplementary sum not tension Services and Local Develop­ exceeding Rs. 2,87,48,000 be granted m e n t W o r k s to the President out of the Consoli­ MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: dated Fund of the State of Andhra Ijjradesh to defray the charges “That a Supplementary sum not which will come in course of exceeding Rr# 87,14,700 be granted to payment during the year ending tho President out of the Consolidated the 31st day of March, 1973, in Fund or the State of Andhra respect of ‘Agriculture’.” Pradesh to defray the charges which will come in course of D em an d Nof XXII—Annual Husban­ payment during the year ending d ry the 31st day of March, 1973, in respect of ‘Community Development MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: Projects, National Extension Ser­ vices and Local Development “That a Supplementary sum not works’.*’ exceeding Rs. 18,61,300 be granted to the President out of the Consoli­ D em an d No. XXVII—Other M iscella­ dated Fund of the State of Andhra neous, Social and Developmental Pradesh to defray the charges Organisations which will come in course of payment during the year ending MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: the 31st day of March, 1973, in respect of ‘Animal Husbandry’.”. “That a Supplementary sum not exceeding Rs. 1,65,52,100 be granted to the President out of the Consoli­ D em a n d No. XXIII—Co-operation dated Fund of the State of Andhra Pradesh to defray the charges MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: which will come in course of payment during the year ending “That a Supplementary sum not the 31st day of March, 1973, in exceeding Rs. 17,500 be granted to respect of ‘Other Miscellaneous, the President out of the Consolidated Social and Developmental Organisa­ Fund of the State of Andhra tions*,**. a I a Andhra Budget, CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKAq D G.

D em a n d N o XXXIII—Public Works MR. SPEAKER Motion moved: « MR SPEAKER Motion moved “That a Supplementary sum not “That a Supplementary sum not exceeding Rs 13,48,200 be granted to exceeding Rs 16,44,600 be granted to the President out of the Consolidated the President cut of the Consolidated Fund of the State of Andhra Fund of the State of Andhra Pradesh to defray the charges Pradesh to defray the charges which will come in course of which will come m course of payment during the year endmg payment during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1973, in the 31st day of March, 1973, in respect of 'Municipal Administra­ respect of ‘Public Works’ ” tion*”. 2X5 Andhra Budget, MARCH 22, 19T3 D. G. (on A c c t) & D.S.G. 2 x6

[Mr. Speakerl of March, 1979, in respect of 'Capi­ tal Outlay on Schemes of Govern­ D e m a n d Nc* XLVII—Capital Outlay ment Trading’.”. on Industrial and Economic DEVE­ LOPMENT D em an d No . L V I— L o an s a n d Advan­ MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: ces b y t h e State G overnm ent 'That a Supplementary sum not MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: exceeding Rs. 94,00,000 be granted to the President out of the Consolidated “That a Supplementary sum not Fund of the State of Andhra exceeding Rs. 25,22,13,400 be grant­ Pradesh to defray the charges ed to the President out of the Con­ -which will come in course of solidated Fund of the State of payment during the year ending Andhra Pradesh to defray the the 31st day of 'March, 1973, in charges which will come in course respect of ‘Capital Outlay on Indus­ of payment during the year ending trial and Economic Development’.” the 31st day of March, 1973, in respect of 'Loans and Advances by 'D e m a n d No. XLIX—Capital Outlay the State Government’.”. on Irrigation Mr. Samar Mukherjee. MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE “That a Supplementary sum not (Howrah): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to exceeding Rs. 2,ft6,6U.000 be granted oppose the Budget placed here. It is to the President out of the Consoli­ a peculiar situation. The proper place dated Fund of the St^ta cf Andhra for discussion of this Budget is the Pradesh to defray the charges which will come in course of payment State Legislature The Legislature is there; it has not been dissolved. The during the year ending the 31st day ruling Congress has the absolute of March, 1973, in respect of ‘Capital majority m the Andhra Pradesh As­ Outlay on Irrigation’.” sembly Still, the Budget is bei^g dis­ cussed m this House. Because of the D e m a n d N o . L I— C a p it a l O u tlay o n developments there, the administra­ P ublic W orks tion virtually collapsed and the rule of MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: the President has been clamped there “That a Supplementary sum not I am not gome into the merits of the exceeding Rs. 26,91,400 be granted to Budget, but I want to deal with the the President out of the Consoli­ situation which is now prevailing in dated Fund of the State of Andhra Andhra Pradesh. Pradesh to defray the charges which will come in course of payment dur­ In the statement placing the Budget, ing the year ending the 31st day of the Minister has expressed the hope March, 1973, in respect of ‘Capital that it will not be long before the on Outlay on Public Works’.” situation m the State returns to nor­ mally. I do not know, on the basis D em and No. LV—Capital Outlay o n of which factors the Minister is ex­ S c h e m e s or Government T r a d in g pecting that the situation will be MR. SPEAKER; Motion moved: normal very soon, because, for the last several months, the situation in Andhra “That a Supplementary sum not is in doldrums. The movement on the exceeding Rs. 5,600 be granted to basis of the demand for a separate the President out of the Consolidat­ Andhra and a separate Telangana___ ed Fund of the State of Andhra Pradesh to defray the charges whfch Witt dome in course e t payment dur­ SHB1 M. RAM GOPAL REDDY ing the year ending the 31st day (Nizamabad); That we oppose. 317 Andhra Bwdpet, CHAITRA 1, 1805 (SAKAq D. G. (on Acct.) & 218 D. 8. G. SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE;...... heavy burden of taxation and further 3has reached the stage when the normal and further increase in crimes and iiie has completely been paralysed. corruption’—all these are due to the This is the result of the policy pursued policies pursued by the Central Gov­ by the Congress Government in the ernment in order to defend and en­ Centre which is now finding its ex­ courage the monopoly capitalists, the pression m this movement of separa­ feudal forces and the reactionary tion of Andhra. The way the Central vested interests. •Government has dealt with the issue when the Question of formation of linguistic States was in the forefront, So, m order to remove the back­ after the liquidation of the Nizamship wardness both in the areas of Telan­ and in the initial stage of the forma­ gana and Andhra, a real fight is neces­ tion of the linguistic States, from that sary against the feudal elements, time, the policy pursued by the Central against the monopolists and against the Government m regard to Andhra has vested interests But, instead of lead­ given encouragement to the tendencies ing the people to fight against feudal of regionalism and separatism and ism, feudal exploitation and against uptill now the policy of the Central the monopoly capitalism and against Government has not changed the vested interests, now the people are being encouraged and organized to The Mulki rule introduced by the fight for their separation, for region­ Ni2am who was an oppressive feudal alism That will not solve the pro­ lord in order to maintain his rule over blem or unemployment, that will the people there, has become a handle will not solve the problem of ris­ in the hands of a section of the vested ing prices, repression, corruption and interests who are using this weapon backwardness Peonle are gradually to raise the demand for separation coming to fight these monopolists, against feudal forces, against high There are legitimate grievances of prices, against heavy taxation, against the people inhabiting Telangana be­ repression, against corruption A cause the area is still backward eco- united struggle is developing. At this nomica ly and furthermore, because of time the vested interests and exploit­ •the policy of the Coagress Govern­ ing classes are only interested m divid­ ment, unemployment has increased ing the united movement of the people, •and is increasing at a galloping rate only to suit the real interest of the So, the problem of employment, the feudal and reactionary forces They living conditions* of other sections of do it to bring about diversion In the the masses, their economic and cultural movement In this case the Central advancement—all these questions are Government plays a prime ro'e in more and more coming to the fore­ introducing this sort of diversionary front tactics by giving all possible encourage­ ment to regionalism and separatism Similar is the situation in the This is now not the picture in And'ira Andhra area There also, is the ques­ alone This is the picture in Assam tion of unemployment The question and m so me other areas also. Hits of economic crisis as well as the back­ tendency is developing throughout wardness of certain other areas are India. The situation in Andhra has also coming to the forefront But all-India repercussion. Instead of these are the results of the Central leading the country on to further and Government and to get rid of this further integration and unity, this is backwardness and unemployment, the leading to further disunity and dis­ only way out is the basic change in integration. This Is wfeftt we see Hie policy of Hie Cenrtal Government every day. That is itfo# tom demands The growing unemployment, the high are being raised every dti£r. Theer is gwfeag and the gradually increasing a demand being voiced about another 219 Andhra Budget, MARCH 22, 1078 D. G. (onA cei.) & M .G . 2*0

[Shri Samar Mukherjee] ultimately the separatist tendency got States Reorganisation Committee and the upper hand and fight against mulki saying that India should be divided rule turned into fight for bifurcation into 50 States and so on, Regional of Andhra. This is the logical m u lt demands are raising their ugly heads If you encourage regionalism it will in various other parts. It is raising lead to divisions. There is no way its head not only in Assam but other out. Fight for integration of Andhra areas also. This is the demand raised has degenerated into fight for bifurca­ by Shiv Sena in Maharashtra. What tion of Andhra. Where lies the solu­ is the basic lactor behind all these tion? If Hyderabad ceases to be demands? capital of the whole of Andhra the economic life of Hyderabad city and The reason is this. Instead of fight­ Secunderabad city is going to be ing unemployment and economic back­ ruined. wardness and vested interests, the Government is directing the discontent The traders, shopkeepers, businessmen of the people in a different direction and office employees will lose either and now the demand for a separate income and lose their jobs. Economi­ Telengana is being raised. What is cally, Hyderabad will be damaged the basic fact? The basic fact is back­ severely, and that will affect the em­ wardness of Telengana, and if lelen- ployment potentialities for the people gana becomes part of Integrated of Telengana. Andhra then Telengana will be domi­ nated by the relatively advanced parts of Andhra and their unemployed youth So, it is not the people of Andhia will not find suitable jobs unless their who are responsible for the back­ jobs are guaranteed by the mulki rules wardness of the people of Telengana giving guarantee for their jobs as well Similarly, if the people of Andhra as security of their services etc. That think that by bifurcation Andhra will is why they raise this demand stating solve its problems, I say no. They about the security of their services and cannot solve their problems by bifur­ provision of jobs and removal of back­ cation. Bifurcation means the capital wardness. will be transferred from Hyderabad to Vijayawad or some other place As regards the contents of these New establishments require a large demands, they are perfectly justified amount of money. That will increase because they are unemployed, facing further the taxation on the common terrible unemployment situation. But people; they will be further taxed and when the demand is diverted against there will be a further rise in the cost Andhra people, what does it mean? It of living. The (potentialities of em­ means as if the people of Andhra are ployment will not be covered by responsible for the backwardness of simply instituting some new offices and Telengana. That is an absolutely other things, because the problem of diversionary tactics. unemployment is so very serious. It is PROP. MADHU DANDAVATE a national problem. That is why (Raiapur): Movement for bifurcation some serious thought, sober thought, Is supported by people in both the is necessary. Because of rising senti­ regions of Andhra and Telengana. ments and passions we cannot come to the real solution. SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE: Move­ ment for bifurcation has two parts. This is the later sta?e. The first staoe The, real solution corner with the Was the fight against the Mulki rules, formula which we axe advancing for the Integration of Andhra. That from the very start. It is true that wag the first stage. But it was divert­ to Andhra we are not a force which ed in such a regional direction that can give a real turn to the movement t 221 Andhra Budget, CHAITRA) 1, 1973 D. G. (onA cct.) & D.S.G. 220 1895 (SAKA) D.G. {on Acct.) & 222 D. S. G. in the correct direction. The princi­ MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Before ultimately the separatist tendency got ple of the linguistic States is being I call' the next speaker— the upper hand and fight against mulki challenged through this diversionary rule turned into fisht for bifurcation rtlovemerit in Andhra. The principle SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE: I of Andhra. This is the logical result. : While speaking of this dis~ loyment will not be covered by 0f this formula, the entire budget cussion^. one has to think of the psy­ imply instituting some new offices and should be divided. On the basis of chological attitude. As you know, ther things, because the problem of this formula, the people, will start every one of us is supposed* to have nemployment is so very serious. It is thinking that “we are all Telugu- three split personalities; conscious 1 national problem. That is why speaking people and we are of the mind, unconscious mind and sub-con­ ome serious thought, sober thought, same nationality and same State,” scious mind. We take one attitude s necessary. Because of rising senti- and thereby a sense of integration sub-consciously, and we take another nents and passions we cannot come will gradually develop, and the time attitude unconsciously. I mention 0 the real solution. will come when the mutual distrust this because I find that the political will be removed. In that case, this situation in Andhra Pradesh is con­ The real solution comes with the 2:1 formula will become redundant fusing* because educated people’s atti­ Drmula which w e are advancing and the whole of the State will re­ tude is twofold. Educated people are ■om the very start. It is true that main as an integrated State. bound to be capitalistic in this sense. 1 Andhra we are not a force which 3983 LS— 8. m give a real turn to the movement £ £ Andhrp Budget, , 19$* JM k £ &&

[Shri P. V. 8 . BajiiJ what may{ be termed a -claps charm?- alt the courts of Andhra, Circar dis­ ter, or class struggle. 4 , tricts are not functioning. I am told by some personal friend* in the legal- You know that class struggle if profession that rural and urban ceil­ epitomised jp Andhra r Pradesh. W f ings were, .going to be introduced and are having too many tasks to fultil therefore they were tor separation. It for our people, Therefore, X think was because the Government ol that to get over tfee difficulty our Andhrq ipraclesh introduced a land cei­ first task jus to unite the people fojr ling >mSl in the month of September the united Andhra Pradesh, , That,is last yfear but unfortunately the Gov­ the only way by which not only the ernment took nearly four months to Andhra Pradesh State but also the agree to give their assent to the Bill whole of India can progress. , ‘ and title rumour in Andhra Pradesh in October— November was that if Andhra As we are discussing the Andhr^i State was separately formed, they Budget, I would like to make five can and could revoke the rural ceil­ points for the State of Andhra. The ings because that subject comes under first point that I would like to make the State List, and they can pass a re­ is this. We are going on to complete solution saying that we shall have no the outer harbour in Vizagapatnam by ceillttgs. I am giving the background 1974. I think we should also expand because w'tifcn we discuss a matter of our Hmdusthan Ship Yard by laying this type, vfe have to discuss the one Outer kiel. For the purpose «f psychological aspect also. In the Cir­ our ship building, the outer harbour car districts they feel that that there that we are 'building should be wify be,np employment for them; unfor­ developed on the lines that Japan has tunately our legal system is such that in the Pacific oteean. The Japanese employment is only for the rich; only have built up ships Upto 3 lakhs the rich people go to courts; poor tonnes. If Government of India is people1*!© hot go to the court. If so­ anxious to build ships in the Hmdus­ cialism rs brought in the lawyers lose than Ship Yard, they should see that their employment potential. There­ they build the ships upto one lakh fore the legal profession in Andhra tonnes capacity. Today the position Pradesh is spearheading the separa­ is that in the Hindusthan Ship Yard tion movement. I am mentioning this builds ships upto 18,000 tonnes only. to you because I am in a sense per­ The difference between 18,000 ton­ sonally involved. When my eldest nes, and one lakh tonnes is five son got arrested for pro-Andhra atti­ times bigger, should attempt to tude, some friends came to me and build ships upto 1 lakh tonnes said: we are surprised; you are for capacity. This is the first point that integrated Andhra Pradesh but your I would like to make. H ie second son is for a separate Andhra. When ? point I would like to make is this. I asked ray softvfcow he got involved, he was told by friends in B*k> 20 to 26 replied that the masses were for sepa­ years <«go that they

[Shri Bhogendr* Jha] SHRI BHQGBKEWA JHA, linguistic, cast* or communal basis. again, Jm a rnifrMwnac. QawMMwriiaai This » the warning that the country never ototm of fswwty. It ia m p o m & r pMjtoeaptor. U % i t paattftw* should be vigilant It was because phUasogfey aa# rat a negative ugb$ an*a4equate fund* 1 231 Andhra Budget, MARCH 22, 1078 '«.<** (on Acet.) & £>’ £.<3. 2$ *

[Shri Bhogendra Jha] MishxSu I also pay my hearty thanks to Shri Sarin, Who has promptly and for development. Provision for more very quickly acted when the Railway funds oh these accounts must be made Board asked the State Government to so that people can be employed on a give land at the cost of the State bigger scale and the ftssiparous tend­ Government; he has taken a very encies are effectively fought. quick action. If this line is taken up, SHRI K. KAMAKRISHNA REDDY I am sure, more than 10,000 labourers (Nalgonda). Mr. Deputy-Speaker will be employed for a period of Sir, I rise to support the budget of three years. The whole line passe? Andhra Pradesh for the year 1973- through backward, scattered and 74. It is unfortunate that the Budget drought-affected area. There are also- of Andhra Pradesh is being passed other areas which are backward and by this Parliament instead of by the drought-prone areas. Special attention has to be paid for relief works, but State Legislature. Had the Central the Budget shows that nothing is Government honoured the feelings of provided. the public of both Andhra and Telengana regions, the matter could The problem of drinking water have been settled by this time peace­ supply is acute in the twin city of fully, cordially and in a good Hyderabad and Secunderabad, and atmosphere. The people of both the also in rural areas In Hyderabad- regions, Andhra and Telengana, are Secunderabad, bores are being dug by for bifurcation. If the Central rigs The whole twin city is covered Government has any doubt about with drainage system, and by this,, their ’ feelings or opinion, they could the dirty water is also coming from have an opinion poll and go by the the bore-wells and it is going to affect verdict of the opinion poll in both the the health of the people. There is no regions. other go for Hyderabad-Secndrabad except taking water from Osmansagar Now I come to the Budget of pipeline. I note with satisfaction that Andhra Pradesh. The Budget shows in the Budget under Demands for some surplus nominally, but it is Health, Government has made a disheartening and discouraging. Out special provision for taking water of 21 districts of Andhra Pradesh, 14 from Osmansagar pipeline. This are very backward, particularly the should be attended to immediately, Telengana and the Rayalaseema so that the acute scarcity of water in regions. They have to be attended the twin city is removed, particularly to and spccial assistance should be as summer months are coming with given by the Central Government regard to the rural areas, special rigs ar» necessary. The rigs which are at If you see the outlay of last year present at the disposal of the Andhra and the outlay of this year contained Pradesh Government are not suffi­ in the Budget proposals, you will cient. I am sure some rigs which are find that it is becoming less, making coming from abroad, will be deployed the backward State more backward. in the whole of Andhra Pradesh area for giving at least the minimum In this connecton, it is not out of facility of drinking water. I hope the place to mention fhat, recently the State Government as well as the hon. Minister of Railways, Shri L. N. Central Government will look into1 Mishra, has promised that the line, the matter and speedy action will be Nadikude to Bibinagar, is under taken by them. active Consideration and will be taken up, He has has said this yesterday in 14 hrs. his speech on Demands for Grants. Not only is there the question o f I pay toy hearty thank* to Shri L.N. drinking water, there Is also power a$3 Andhtd Bvdget, CHAITRA 1, 1805 (&4KA) D.G. (on Acct.) & 234 D» 5, G. shortage. i'll! now, the Plan outlay located in backward districts and also does not show either a shortterm or an infra-structur© programme should a loiigterm solution for the power be taken on hand for providing elect­ shortage. This power shortage has ricity and communications etc. affected not only the industrial pro­ duction but it is also affecting the About foodgrains, there is a scarcity operations ol agricultural production. of foodgrains. Even though the Cen­ This should be immediately looked tral Government have supplied some into, 'the proposed expansion of the foodgrains, they are not reaching the thermal generating capacity at rural areas and the needy people. Kothagudem should be given top Therefore some sort of informal ratio­ priority and executed quickly in the ning in the scarcity areas should be adopted in the whole cf Andhra State. same way, the Nagarjunasagar project pumped storage power generation Now, the Budget proposals of 1973* scheme should be expeditiously im­ 74 are not encouraging. While there plemented and the Upper Sileru and was a provision of Rs. 97 crores in Srisailam hydro-electric projects the Budget for 1971-72 there is only which have fallen very much behind a provision of Rs. 87 crores which is schedule should be speeded up by sub­ quite disheartening. Not only that, stantial financial assistance from the out of Rs. 97 crores sanctioned in Centre. 1 1972-73 Budget, they could spend only Rs. 72 crores. I know the previous In the same way, the Singareni government were not interested in the coal deposits must be utilised to set up development of the State. They were a supper thermal power station ax always engaged in internal squabbles Kothagudem and Vijayawada, to and never devoted any attention to meet the growing needs of power of the development of the State. Now not only Andhra Pradesh, but the we have a very able Adviser to the entire southern region. Government and I whole-heartedly congratulate Mr. Sarin for his taking About fodder, there is an acute a keen interest in the development­ shortage of fodder in the whole State al activities and in solving the prob­ and cattle have to be protected. Fod­ lems of the public. Last year, due to der depots must be opened in every the inefficiency of the Government, block and fodder should be suplied to even though a popular Government, the public at a nominal rate which several firings had taken place. In may be subsidised by the Government. spite of that no judicial enquiry has been set up against anything I wish to As I had mentioned already, 14 dist­ tell the Central Government as well ricts out of the 21 districts of Andhra as the President’s rule which is there Pradesh are very backward and since m charge of Andhra to take this the past four or five years drought factor into consideration and set up and famine conditions are prevailing, judicial enquiries in such cases. but no provision has been provided for them. Moreover, the Central Go­ Last but not the least. In both the vernment is providing special incen­ Telengana and Andhra regions, their tives and inducements for establish­ unanimous voice is for bifurcation. ment of Industries in backward areas. What Mr. Bhogendra Jba has sa id is But, in spite of these inducements and not correct; he said that maliciously on incentives, no industrialists are coming a party basis. He is neither concern­ forward to take advantage of them ed with Andhra nor with Telengana and set up industries In those areas He comes from Bihar iand he has not because the question of infra-structure visited these parla. T h e V bice of the like electricity, roads etc. is there. people should b e Imntted. There Therefore, the licensing authority should be immediate b&dycatfon which should alvo see to it that industries are should be done u b $ er the dynamic leadership *3? V, rn» D.0. urn Acetj * D .a .a . 2g*. [Shri Ramakrishna Reddy] and unhonoured nearly making Q p Gfmdjii. I request th.pt the demand vernment treasuries empty aqd now lor biitircation should be accepted by they find it difficult to meet even onUv Central leaders. If any doubt arises nary eexpehses. This surplus i$ be­ an opinion poll should be taken and cause of the massive and extensive the vardiot of th# people should be borrowing from Central Government, binding on us. With those sugges­ from the Reserve Bank of India and tions I support the Budget so on and so forth. For current year they show surplus; next yea; also they SHRI G. VISWANATHAN (Wandi- show surplus. I am surprised about it wash): I hope this is the first time and also the last time when this Budget Sir, when I went through the budget is presented before this honourable for the coming year, 1973-74, it was House. I want the Central Govern­ interesting to note that the grants-in- ment to restore the elected Govern­ aid from the Central Government is ment of Andhra and Telegana so that Rs. 56.31 crores; the loans from the the other budget should be presented Central Government is Rs. 75.26 crores. to those Houses if that the wish of the But, on the otherhand, the interest to people. be paid to the Central Government by Andhra Pradesh is Rs. S4.96 crores, When one goes through the Budget and still more* the repayment of the one finds so many items of revenue loans to the Centre is Rs. 76 24 crores and expenditure being debited or cre­ Let me point out that the loan that dited for Andhra and Telengana re­ the Central Government is giving is gions. But I wish to point out that Rs. 75 crores and the repayment that both the regions. Andhra and Telen­ Andhra Pradesh is to make to the gana, are facing severe drought and Centre is Rs. 76 crores. What are you there is no drinking water and vari­ giving to Andhra Pradesh? You call ous, such problems are faced by the it Central grant or a Central aid? districts including the capital city. What you are giving, you are taking. There is acute power shortage affect­ Hence, the DMK party pleads that ing both agriculture and industry. the State's resources should be elastic Shortage of kerosene is there. Short­ enough so that they can manage their age of diesel oil, sugar, and cement is own affairs. But this is not so. there. So far no action been taken. I find that the betterment levies are Even the Speaker of the Assembly already being collected in respect of which is suspended—that is, the As­ the still-born Godavari barrage. I want sembly is suspended, but the Speaker to know from the Government how continues, he is not suspended,—has much allotment is required and when given a memorandum to Governor you are going to complete the Goda­ saying about these shortages, but no vari barrage. action has been taken so far. I expect the Government to take immediate Then in the budget, you will be steps to reduce the grievances of peo­ surprised to know, and I am pained ple in this regard. to see that the entertainment and hospitality expenses of Raj Bhavan in I am surprised that the budget pre­ Hyderabad runs to Ra. 17.93 lakhs. sented here is a surplus Budget. No My hon. friend Shri Ram Gopal Reddy major project is taken up in the was pointing out that out of the 21 coming year 1973-74, there is no mas­ districts, 15 are affected by drought. I sive progcaflom* for providing jobs want to know why in thepe circum­ aqfjl eventing employment potential. I stances, Rs. 18 lakhs are going to be cannot blame this Qovewosnent fully, spent Tb$pe also, A&dlira Fiauean’o because np attempt way made to moblr contribution is Rs. 11.05 lakhs and resource* by the la*t Cabinet Telengana’s share comes to Rs. 5.9$ wty<3t, want oyt of o®c*t Nara- lakhs tor the entertainment allowance ■tp&a ffpo Cabinet It went unsung alone, 1 do not wfch to enter into any .239 Anttim Bgdg&s CHAITRA 1, 18» iSAKA) D.G. «m Acct.) * 238 f O. S. G. mope paint about the Governor, but scheme. The correspondence between amnway, whtt* his salary k Us. 59,000, Andhra Governaaent and the Andhra the. entertainment allowance is RS. Pradesh Housing Board was going oiv 174M lakh*. Rax Bhavans should prac­ from 1959 till March 1969. I do not tise economy betore preaching to the know what happened later on. There people. was another recommendation made m 1960 regarding the allocation of the Then when I want through the sup­ balances under the Industrial Trust plementary demands for 1972-73, the Fund and the RTC which was to be first thing that struck me was a point decided after a discussion between the about Jhe Chairman of the Regional Chief Minister, the Minister of Labour, Committee. There is a regional com­ Transport and Finance. The meetings mittee for Telangana to safeguard the have been postponed repeatedly and interests cf the backward districts. the matter was not decided even in What is happening is, to furnish the 1968 There was eight years delay. office-rooms of the Telengana Regional Committee Chairman, Rs. 13,075 have Agam the sub-committee on deve­ been allotted. This is how the back­ lopment wanted information on priori­ ward people are being safeguarded. tise on rural electrification fixed by Again for jails, police and the army, the Public Works Department. This how much is the Government of An­ matter was pending for more than six dhra Pradesh going to spend? Rs. 2 4 years. This is how the committees crores. 1 do not know how many of was not functioning effectively. Telen­ the people were arrested and kept in gana has always seen a surplus budget the lock-up It says because of the the mam reason being that whereas agitation this additional expenditure is the consumption of liquor was prohi­ necessary I want to know from the bited in Andhra, Teleangana area was Government hew many are still kept; always wet. (Interruptions). I want all the prisoners—these agita­ tors—to be released and you must I need more time; I have already withdraw the army Only for the army informed the Minister. they have so far spent Rs 45 lakhs, and surprisingly enough, the head MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER : You under which this expenditure is met might have informed the Minister; is “Miscellaneous”. We have to spent that is none of my business. Your for the army Rs. 45 lakhs from Andhra time is what is alloted to your party Pradesh. (Interruptions) when the Chair says one sentence, it has taken two Again for the backwardness cf the minutes; when the members say nine distncts of the Telengana region, hundred sentences, they take only the Telengana Regional Committee, half a second' known as the TRC was formed. There are sub-committees and ad hoc com­ SHRI G. VISWANATHAN : When mittees also created to look after the there was difficulty, between the interests before the proposals are sent Government and the Telangana Regio­ to the Assembly. But what happens’ nal Committee they appointed Kumar The TRC could not function effective­ Lalit to determine, the Telagana sur­ ly for very many reasons. The main pluses and according to him the net reason in because of the delay in the surplus was Rs 38.20 crores whereas implementation of its proposals. ‘I according to the TRC. the Telangana would like to quote one thing to show Regional Committee, it should be how there was delay in the implemen­ Rs. 107.13 crores including half of tation otf the TRCs recommendations, the revenue deficit of the by the Government. On the 14th Sep­ Andhra region and the Telagana tember, 1959, the TEC recommended share in the erstwhile Hyderabad the fixation of the cost of houses built Government securities. To resolve b y the tower income group housing that dispute the Ptfme Minister 239 Andhra Budget, MARCH 22, 1978 D.G. (on Acct.) & D.S.G. 24O

[Shri O. Vi^wanathan] by time---- {Interruptions). I do not appointed the jBhargava Committee know; if the House wanted they which concluded after taking into could have fixed ten hours for this, account both the views that the sur­ discussion an

[Shri P. Venkatasubbaiah] There was an article recently on the to the sa\ i sfaction of both the regions IWutrtmted Weekly of Iiidki by Dr. within thi framework of an integrated K. Ik Stfeo about the linking of Ganga State and again Andhra Pradesh will and Cauvery. I have great respect play its constructive role in national and regard for him. In that align­ affairs. A.ndhra Pradesh is the fourth ment, he is bringing the link canal largest State and Telugu is the second somewhere near Nagarjunasagar, set­ biggest language. 1 am sure the ting aside the more poverty-stricken Telygu-spoaking people will once again areas of Rayalaseema and le*engana. rise to the occasion and play a useful I appeal to him that this mistake part. should not be committed. The align­ ment should be such that the lmk About regional imbalances, I speci­ canal passes through Tungabhadra, ally plea-J for the development of Krishna and Pennar, so that Rayala­ Rayalaseema and Telengana. In this seema will get immense benefit by this bargain, Rayalaseema has loBt very stupendous, historic and monumental heavily. There was a project called project. Sangamei/waram sanctioned bv the composite State of Madras. It was Coming to the Andhra budget, as about to be executed but the friends Mr. Viswanathan said, it is an artificial in the coastal districts started an agi­ budget, except for getting grants and tation saying that this is going to loa(ns and repaying to the Reserve benefit Gwingleput and Madras city. So, Bank because there was a terrible it was shelved. If that could have overdraft There is nothing for de­ he>enf executed, the entire Rayala­ velopmental works. Andhra is now in seema region would have immensely a most pitiable condition. Once con­ benefited. Instead, the Khosla Com­ sidered to be the rice V-owl, it is now mittee whs appointed and they recom­ begging for food irom other States. mended the Nagarjunasagar project, in The reasons are obvious. No attempt their report they said that the needs has been made so far to look into the of Rayalaseema must be first met, economic aspects of this unfortunate that at least 200 TMC must be let into State. Even though there was stability the Pennar basin and two canals of administration ,there was no econo­ known, an East West canals must be mic improvement. taken up for irrigating the famine- stricken Rayalaseema. But it was A big chunk of the Plan allocation given the- go-by and instead the Sri- has been taken away by the Nagar­ sailam hydro project was sanctioned. junasagar proiect. Its estimate went Panditji, while inaugurating the Sri~ up from Rs. 75 crores to Ra. 200 sailam project, made a speech which crores. I do not think it wouU be raised th« hopes of the poverty-stricken possible for any other project to be Rayalase* ma people. He said that the taken up in Andhra for at least 50 to irrigation aspect of Srisaiiam project 00 years. All the medium and minor will be considered. I hope and trust irrigation projects in Rayalaseema that his illustrious daughter will fulAl have been shelved because of want of the aspirations of the people of resources. There are two or three pro­ Rayalaseema. Unless the East West jects in Kumool and Cudappah where Canals are not constructed, there is no even the foundation has been laid 12 hope for Rayalaseema. Hie rainfall to 15 years back. Still they are wait­ in Rayalaseema is only 20” and this ing execution. I do not know whether year it has come down still. There the foundation stones will be allowed is acute scarcity of drinking water. to continue there for long. For in­ Even rigs going upto 500 or 600 feet stance. the Varadarajaswami Project, could not find water. 80. the condi­ the Ghajsuladinnu project a»d the Puli- tion in Rayalaseema is much more veniela project in Rayalaseema are frightening. not catwd for because funds are 245 Andhra Budget, CHAlTftA 1, 1801$ (SAKA) D.G. (on Acct.) & 246 D. S. G. diverted to Nagarfunasagar. Similarly, ShotiHd we ftght for a few 1dbs under there is tfie Pochampad project oh the MuSEl Buie and becoirtC fhe laugh­ Godavari in Telengwaa. Thas is a ing stock before the country? I multipurpose project which would plead with them that we should think have brought in great prosperity to of the integration of die State in the the people of Ttlegtna, if it had been interest of backward area. accepted the original four. Then there is the Vamsadara project in Srikakulam district. These projects will bring I will conclude by referring to a prosperity to Andhra Pradesh. It is railway lifte in Rayelaseema which an agriculturally-oriented State where ha* to be taken up and which has been the farmers are very enterprising. The neglected all these years. In 1905, people are willing to work hard bat that is about 70 years back, a survey they are not getting opportunities. was made for a Bne from Namttat 10 Yerlagudipa and it was not fcund to > be feasible. Even today the railway For instance, what is the position of acfrntnistration sticks to that opinion power today? Even in normal tunes of that old eorvey. I do not know the per capita consumption of power why the railways are net interested in in Andhta is the lowest. The Siva- developing the backward areas. This sailam hydro-electric project has iwt should be looked into. seen the light of day. Its estimate has gone up from Rs. 35 crores to Rs. 80 crores. I do not know how many more years it wffl take to tafee Then, there is the DBK Railways It up. Then, there is the Sileru pro­ which brings ivtm ere to Visakfcapat- ject, which has to be executed. nanrv. At present it is open only for goods traffic. It should be open for passenger traffic also. The time has come when these few projects should be taken up as na­ tional projects by the Centre. The I am glad that our separated friends Central Government paying a few have decided to be in the party. We crores of rupees is not a big price to welcome them and we respect their pay to preserve the integrity of this wishes. They are like the return of big State. The Central Government the prodigal son. We are one with must come in a big way, even outside them in projecting the true aspirations the Plan allocation, to see that these of the people of Andhra Pradesh, be pvoiects are executed soon. they in Tefengana, Andhra or Rayala- seema. Let us work unitedly. The Telugu people are not fighting the I will plead with mv friends m All-India battle for preservation of the Telengaea: let us forget the regional integrity of the State. We have been committee. Let there be development fore-runners m agitating for creation committees for backward areas. As of linguistic States. A great man self- ray hon. friend has been saying, nine immolated himself, unique and tm- districts of Tefengasa are in the grip heafed in the annuals of history. We of famine; so also several areas in were the torch-bearers for formation R'ayalase.»ma, Srikakulam and the of linguistic States. Let ue not fail coastal districts. Let tfcere be develop­ otrr posterity. Let us Ubt be accused ment bOMtrd. Let us plead with the that whet our elders h*ve done we Central Government to start more pro­ have undone it. L$t us unitedly be jects in Andhra so that more employ­ together and work for the develop­ ment opttorfonitiete co&ld be fooftd. ment of Andfcra frWMlb. *4 7 Andhra Budget., MARCH 22, 1973 D.G. (on A cct) A D.S.G. 248

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?#*ft, *Ft srrarre litm w ^ % srrsrrer ♦SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA VTTZTT, W * 1ft ^^Sr-STTfarT (Eluru): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it 5&9T | * «fWT apT, ST ^ R T cf «KT, * ifl very unfortunate that w6 are dis­ cussing this budget here even though, v ri m x m $$r the Congress party is in majority and V there is Congress Government in the centre ag *e!l as in the State. It is MR. DEPUTY-&PS5AKER: How will to seme extent gratifying to note tint the Budget of Andhra provide for the Government is prepared to Ustm» tHis? to the views of both sfdes. — ------*— —•- — *— •The original speech wa# delivered i Te&gU- . Andhra Budget, CHAITRA 1,1893 (SAKAq D.G. (on Acct.) & 254 ” D. S. G. I would like to clarify the matter not coming forward to understand the in so far as the stoppage of a parti­ difficulties the people are facing. The cular project in Rayalaseema because movement is supported by a majority o f the unwillingness of the people of of Members of Parliament and Sircar's is concerned as stated by our members of legislature irrespective of friend Mr. Venkatasubbaiah. 1 would their party colour. It is not correct to like to submit here that the people say that these members are being sup­ from Raya aseema have been at the ported financially or otherwise by the helm of affairs in Andhra Pradesh. It bus owners and NGOs only m my ■would be futile on the part of Shri State. It may be mentioned here that Venkatasubbiah to state here that 50 per cent of the bus route? in Andhra people from Sircars were responsible Pradesh are nationalised. To state for not implementing a project in that it is being financed and supported Rayalaseema. They are not responsi­ by the one odd percentage of the bus ble for it. owners and the NGOs would only complicate the problems and would not solve the problems. We must SHRI P. VENKATASUBBIAH- Sir, make an honest effort to make the cn a point of explanation. I have Government understand the problem in never said that in my speech. The its proper perspective. Let us all un­ Sangameswer project was stopped animously demand the Government to bccause there was an agitation that it hold a plebscite to know the wishes ’was going to benefit the Madras people of the people The Government will and incidentally the Rayalaseema not have any alternative but to accept people were being asked to pay the the demand if it is made by the united price. voice of the people of Telengana and SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA I Andhra. It is being stated that we do would humbly state here that Shn not want the implementation of vari­ Sanjiva Reddy and Shri Sanjivayya ous progressive measures like the who were at the helm of affairs for land reform etc. and that is why this agitation. I would like to say that no 16 3 ears in the Andhra Pradesh, were from Rayalaseema It is being stated body in the State is against such a 1hat people of Circar districts are res­ step by the Government. I would go ponsible for non-implementation of a step further and say that the far­ Sangameswar project mers would be the first people to wel­ come such a measure even if the ceil­ SHRI P. VENKATASUBBIAH- It ings are proposed to be reduced still. ^was an agitation purely by the people I can assure you that it is the farmers of the Northern Circars. I reassert it. who dutyfully perform their job and produce more irrespective of whether SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA: It is the prices are going up or not They in that connection I thought that always work with all their heart and effort is being made to brand the peo­ stand by the society to the best of their ple of Circars as unprogressive. ability. SHRI P. VENKATASUBBIAH: I do not mean that. I would like to ask the question whether we are elected with lakhs of SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA: If it votes as majority because of the sup­ Is not so I tender my apologies. We port of these bus owners who are a are very sorry that it is repeatedly minority in the society? Or do we stated that this movement is sup­ have some popularity because of the ported by landlords and capitalists like policies we stand for? In fact it was the bus owners. A political twist is not so. But, now, wherever we go we Cried to be given to this agitation of are being told that we do not represent the people. The Government is also the popular opinion. It Is not correct. 8983 L.S.—® 255 Avdhra Budget, MHRCHaa, 1»8' D.O. (on A ccU « &.JS.G.

[Shri K. Suryanarayana] the name of the agitation. 1 would That is why we do not think that this urge upon the Government to extend movement is the result of the dis­ this particular judicial inquiry to all satisfaction of certain vested interests. those incidents where lathi charge and or firing are resorted to. We I think the cause of this agitation demand this because it is stated that is a certain psychological emotion. A this is a popular Government. feeling that Andhras are being treated as second rate citizens in their own It is not for the few posts of NGOs capital. I am sorry to see that the here or there we fight for separation. Communist Party of India which It is because the self-respect and the speaks for the one world Government basic fundamental rights of the Andhra of peasants and workers and the Gov­ people are in jeopardy. Here we face ernment of India which speaks for the a difficult and strange situation of a oppressed and the down trodden in party standing for world Government the whole world as their champion, and a Government which champions are not trying to understand the pro­ the cause of the oppressed people in blem of the people of Andhra. I the world, opposing the popular feel­ would like to affirm here once more ings of a majority of the population that we do stand by the commitments in the State. like land reforms made by us at the time of our election. We have not Here I would like to state that Mr. been properly apprised of the situation A Chaudhrv has submitted a memo­ by the officials. Therefore we could randum on the mulki rules issue to not explain the problem to the peo­ the President lie requested in his ple in its proper perspective. We ask­ memorandum among other thines, a ed the people to help restore normal copy of which I am willing to lay on conditions in the State. This is an the Table of the House, that the matter opportune moment for the Govern­ should be referred to the Supreme ment here to take the necessary steps. Court by the President for eliciting A particular section of the party are its opinion. That proposal was shelv­ trying to provoke the people by hold­ ed. Today we have a judgment by the ing meetings and propagatinr the idea High Court of Andhra Pradesh, on of integration with heln of CRP. This the same lines as suggestad by Shri resulted in clashes lathi charges and Chaudhry in his memorandum. firings. We are also being kept in the dark by the Government as to the The Prime Minister has come out number of casualties in the firings and with a statement that she has an open lathi charges. In a recent case it is mind and is not decided about bifurca­ stated by the Government that the tion or integration. The people were number of deaths are four whereas the asked to restore peace and normalcy Hindu Correspondent who was present pending a decision bv the Government. on the scene of the incident stated that Meanwhile, President’s rule was im­ the number of deaths were eight. I posed in my State, i am sorry to understand that a judicial inquiry has state here that there is more loss of been ordered into this incident. lives during the President’s rule than It is strange to see that the Com­ during the Government of Shri P. V. munist Party of India does not rome Narasihmarao. forward in demanding a judicial in­ quiry into all the excesses that were There are many backward areas in committed by the CRP in my State. the State in addition to the region Of It is also a fact that no leader either Telengana. I come from West Goda­ separatist or fntegrationist is either vari district. We produce a surplus of frtjured or lost his life in the firings. 2 lakhs tons of foodgrains. But 3/4 of It is only the people who followed my region is such that there are no these leaders have laid their lives in facilities even for drinking water. *e7 Andhra Budget, CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) D.G. (on Acct.) & 258 n o n There are backward areas in every My friend, Mr. Venkatasubbaiah, district. We should have a Develop was bemoaning the fact that the de­ went Board to go into the backward­ velopment of the State was not taking ness of all the regions and suggest place. He thinks this a good diver­ remedial measures for developing these sionary measure from what u really backward areas. I would like to state agitating the minds of ihe people, here that it would be easy to solve whether Andhra and Telangana should all these problems quickly as in the be together or not He thought he case of Haryana and Punjab, if the could divert attention ar.d claim State is bifurcated. credit for having advocated ihe cause of development m the State. We all In fact everything is bifurcated in want development; but if he had my State. We have a separate budget, looked at the Budget he would have separate plan, separate Chief Secre­ found theie is no allocation for deve­ taries. The only thing needed is a lopment at all I coulj not find any separation ot Chief Ministers and money allotted for any development Governors. There is a de facto bifur­ there at all. So, I cannot understand cation. The only need is a de jure why on the one hand he should be­ bifurcation We tried for integration moan the lack of development and on the other hand be so reticem to put Not that we are asainst it When the the blame on the parties concerned. efforts for integration failed there is no point in being together I there­ fore request that the Government 15 hrs. should take all these points into con­ sideration while solving this problem I assure you that this temporary I once more earnestly hope that the bemoaning will be looked after very Government wi 1 come forward with shortly when the Swatantra Party a proper solution while concluding my forms a Government in Andhra Pra­ speech. desh.

SHRI PILOO MODY ^Godhra): SHRI K P. UNNIKRISHNAN Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, 1 welcome (Badagara): What a wild dream? this debate on the non-budget for the separate States of Andhra and Telan­ gana. If you were to look at the SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH: Budget itself every provision h.iS been The wildest dream. put for Andhra and then for Telan­ gana, for Telangana and then for SHRI PILOO MODY: 'Hie tragic in­ Andhra Even the Central Govern­ decision on the part of the Central ment in making the provisions in Government has led to considerable introducing an on account budget violence. Only last night I received separates the two States of Andhra a telegram which says: and Telangana. “Atrocities committed by integra- tiomsts m 'processions with CRP I just cannot undeistand why this help inspired by Delhi, mcuntj&g in pretence is maintained at the Centre seriousness entering houses, beating that we will not allow the two States women and other *umates, ending in to separate. I am only led to the fact several deaths. Committing acts of that there are reasons rther than provocation leading to shootings and realistic, reasons other than rational, deaths in Tenali, Guntur, Vurava- reasons other than logical which have konda, Vijayavada, Eluru, Hajah- induced this artificial marriage bet­ mundry, Kakinada, Avanigadda, ween the two reticent parties. I Nimmagadda, Cuddapa# etc...... suspect, Sir, there is considerable amount of politics in ter-twined in this SHRI RAM GOPAl* REDDY: Is it Particular decision. your draft? 259 Andhra Budget, MARCH 22, 1078 D. G. (on Ac it.) & DJS.G. 260

SHRI PILOO MODY: Please Pradesh are the CRP and the police draw Parliament's attention---- ” — to some extent, not the loyal police, which includes you, Mr. Reddy— but the ultra-loyal police and their friends and colleagues here and there, “Insist judicial inquiry and action those whro want, as I said, the best on culprits. Letter follows”. of borth worlds. SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH: Who is that? I have heard—and this really asto­ nishes me that no mention must be SHRI PILOO MODY: This is signed made about the separation of Andhra by no less than one of our old collea­ because it might affect the UP elec­ gues of the House, Tenneti Viswana- tions. It has been made out that if tham and also the great leader of the the separation of Andhra was granted Andhra people, Gouthu Latchanna. and it will have to be granted notwith­ standing what anybody in tnis world I received another telegram a few may say, it will have to be granted days ago from Kakani Purnachandra- the day may not be far away when rao. It says: UP may also have to be divided into several States in order to make it “CPI workers Digavalli Nuzvid administratively manageable. taluk Krishna district caused atroci­ ties looting injuring many. [S h ri K. N. T iw a h i in the Chair] “Separatists including Harijans since week with Dasari advise safety I do not see why we are rfraid of of separatists workers endangered. saying this, why we are running away Far reaching repercussions likely from this most blatant fact that we throughout taluk. Storn action and need units which ar3 competently judicial inquiry prayed urgently. administered, we need units where no No action by police*'. part of a particular area goes into disrepair and is neglected and, there­ SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: fore, abandoned to the mercies of How many judicial inquiries in all? someone. We need compact adminis­ SHRI PILOO MODY: As I said once trative units if this country is to be before, today when this great move­ properly governed. ment is going on in Andhra Pradesh I say it is a great movement bccause SHRI VASANT SATHE: Whether I have never seen such a large move­ economically viable or not? ment so non-violently conducted in SHRI PILOO MODY: “Economic which everybody was participating . viability.” Well, Mr Sathe, we will SHRI VASANT RATHE (Akola): discuss it when we come to Vidarbha; Question. not before that. SHRI PILOO MODY: except those Sir, what astonishes me is that in Congressmen who could not rrake up dealing with these matters, after 25 their mind which side* of the bed lo years of self-government, we have not got up from in the morning, those been able to evolve a democratic Congressmen who wanted the best of process by which this decision can be both worlds, those Congressmen who taken. This is something that I really have been split into two as a result resent, that everything has to be left of sitting on the fence, those Congres­ to somebody in >e Government or smen who have been constantly weak­ Government itself, or to somebody in ening the movement by running to the Cabinet or to the Prime Minister Delhi every few days, as if Delhi was or some such authority. Why have they to be separated, it is these people who not been left to the democratic pro­ have weakened the movement. And cesses involved through which the the only miscreants today in Andhra people’s will can be manifested? 261 Andhra Budget, CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKAq D. G. (on Acct) & 262 D. S. G. rShri Piloo Modi] STFST 3J^r *PT T O R I «PT % I would like to talk about the torchbearers that my friend Mr. 3?t M t WT9" ITT f®MI ^ITST, Venkatasubbiah referred: Andhra was the torchbearer of showing the way ^ET $>TT for *TFST S&W TO RT in this country towards linguistic ^ fomT ^rnr *rr ift TO for q ^ r States. As you know, I have never been an advocate of linguistic States *tpt— irrfft wnrvnr, snfcr jftrsf because we have felt that just as religion' cannot be the basis for nation­ ^ rTwhq1 f w 'srrar jit wFsr sntsr hood, language cannot be the basis for *rt t o r i < # r f w «rnr 1 Statehood. But since the States were reorganised on on linguistic lines, we have now come to reap the harvest, sresr t faafr and find that language in itself is not Tttrenflw wrr sufficient for Statehood. There has to be something more than that. Each srt^ |*pt ?TRTt qwr State needs to develop its ethos which makes all members of the State feel *pf *TT t m as if they belong, and therefore, I *lf«M *T?T IT, fft !TFST sfor % ^ great store by the Andhra people, and laying a hope, that the Andhras will ^ 3RT T ? t I ^ 5TFST Sr^TT % also be the torchbearers m annihila­ ting the Congress out of this country. ^ ^ ?r q-f f far

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3ffT 5RT 33PT «FT t, W*t aft^T SHRI M. S. SANJEEVI RAO (Kaki- nada): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I rise to ?rr: sjt Tfr t sftr *nrf support the Andhra Pradesh budget. At the same time, I feel sad that the 3 f | fa 'q«T tft *fta' *?ft% % Union Government has not yet decid­ ^fr f a # ajTter *r tos- ed to bifurcate the Sta*e of Andhra 1 1 Pradesh even though normalcy has siYt ?r?nrrcr t 5 *sfte c r w i ^ ^ been completely restored there in spite of grave provocations of the f[ > »rd «fl % ft 4 5 +Or & 270 d, s. a . a great esset to the country, in remind this House, when Acharya developing an alternative line from Vinobhabave started his famous- iron ore from Bailadilla to reach boodhan movement, he selected Telen­ Kakinada as well as relieve the strain gana for trying his experiment be­ on the Vizag port. cause there was a lot of economic injustice in Telengana. Probably As hon. members would have notic­ many Congressmen might have for­ ed, while presenting this budget, the gotten that at that time Vinobhabhave Union Government has already bifur­ spoke in an unusual language. He said cated it into two separate budgets for that if the economic aspirations of the Telengana and Andhra. I hope this people of Telengana are not respected is an indicator of the thinking of by the rulers in this country, probably Government and soon they will bifur­ a secessionist movement may start in ea c h: into /ndhra and hat part of the country. He gave Telengana as pei the wishes of the that warning at that time. But neither people there. the warning of the Communist Party, PROF MADHU DANDAVATE nor the warning of Vinobhabhave was (Rajapur): Mr. Chairman, the presen­ listened to. As a result of that, a tation of the Andhra Budget before stage has come when the people of this House is really a bi-product of Andhra as well as Telengana are the state of paralysis in both the re­ united in saying that Andhra and gions of Andhra and Telengana. Telengana should be separated. It is Though on the agenda it has been a paradox indeed that both the regions mentioned that the Andhra Budget which were united due to various will be discussed and adopted in this reasons have come to the conclusion House, it is de facto division and that they must be bifurcated. bifurcation of Andhra Pradesh into Here I might raise the question of Telegana and Andhra, and that is lingustic provinces. Very often Cong- why in the budget that is presented lessmen in this House and elsewhere over here we find separate allocations talk in very high tones about Potti for Andhra as well as for Telengana Sriramulu. But these are the very It is very necessary for strengthen­ Congressmen who forced Potti Srira­ ing democracy m the country and for mulu to undertake a fast unto death evolving an egalitarian society that and then allowed him to die. It is we must strengthen democracy at the only on the dead body of Potti Srira­ grass root level—, and not at the mulu did they create the Andhra State. Presidential level. Unfortunately, we After all, what did he die for? He are putting an unbearable strain on died for the principle of linguistic the President by having one State States. I do not believe, many of us after another subject to President’s here do not believe, that ■ by the Rule. bifurcation of Andhra into Telengana and Andhra the principle of linguistic Very often we are told that what is provinces is reversed. When that bi­ involved here is parochialism. But I furcation comes, both of them are must humbly submit that it is the going to be linguistic States, Telugu- economic factor which is the root cause speaking States. This principles does of the demand for bifurcation. Many not mean that there should be only of Us in Parliament have not forgotten one State speaking one language. that there was a time when due to certain adverse economic conditions a AN HON. MEMBER: Vidarbha. certain type of movement originated only in Telengana. Shall we forget PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE; If that in 19481 the Ranadive line of the tomorrow there is a demand for Communist Party was sought to be Vidarbha, if the will of the people want operated in this very land of Telen­ a separate Marathi State, I will not gana because of the economic condi­ have the least hesitation in supporting tions in Telengana? Again, I might that move. The will of the people must •27i Andhra Budget, MARCH 22, 1973 & G . <

[Prof. Madhu Dandavate] Telengana and, In front of those peo­ ple, we had the courage to contain prevail in a democracy. I am a violence in unmiataken terms. At the democrat and I will always respect same time, I make it clear that I can­ the democratic aspirations of the not equate the violence on public pro­ people. perty committed by provoked young people and the brutal violence comit- I would like to point out that a lin­ guistic State docs not mean that there ted by the C.R.P. on men and women. cannot be more than one State for one I want to point out that there is one language. Hindi is one of the domi­ place called Apanigada in Andhra nant languages of the country. Even Pradesh where peaceful women were after the acceptance of the principle staging a satyagrah in front of the of linguistic States, have we not got railway track. The Prime Minister Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, Uttar talks of reviving the spirit of Dandi Pradesh and Haryana, all Hindi-speak- march. If the spirit of Dandi march ing States? is revived anywhere, it is on ihe land Then a question is asked as to how of Andhra that the spirit of Dandi we can have small States which are march has been revived. Thousands not economically viable. Unfortunate­ of men and women without any arms ly, the tragedy of the situation is that in their hands and only babus in their they have one norm for one group arms were staging a peaceful satya­ of States and another norm for an­ grah in front of the railway track. other group of States. Have they now The C.RP. beat them with lathis not got small States? Is Haryana a When they were being beaten with small State or a big State? What lathis, some men-folk ran away. I about Himachal Pradesh? What about know one women who got up and Arunachal? What about Tripura? told the C R.P., “You can hit me with What about Meghalaya? When it com­ lathis; you can hit me with your re­ es to the acceptance of States, accep­ volver. There will not be only one table to them, they do not talk m terms murder but two murders because I of small States But when the people am carrying a baby in my womb.” of Andhra and Telengana demand that That is the spirit of Dandi. Such they want to have separate States, repression is going on. they do not accept it. Let me complete the story of this A lot of repression is going on in repression in the name of integration. Andhra and Telengana and all in the At Tenali, on 10th March, a procession name of integration. So much talk is of so-called integrationists was taken there. On one occasion, on the floor out. “Indira Gandhi Zindabad” waa of the House and outside, the Prime the slogan. The procession entered Minister said that the Opposition into the house of Shri Ramachandra, parties are not showing the couragc to one of the residents of that particular condemn acts of violence---- town of Tenali, who is a strong bifur- SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Dia­ cationist. I supervised that house in mond Harbour): Don’t take it serious­ the presence of the police. I told the ly. local police, “In your presence, I am carrying the ramnants of destruction PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I in the house of Shri Ramachandra,” do not take it seriously. But when the Shri Ramachandra happens to be a Prime Minister of the country makes Jana Sangh leader. It is all immater­ a wrong statement, I want to point out ial whether he is a Jana Sangh leader to you that some of you might have or a Socialist leader. What did I find condemned violence here, in the in that house? The so-called integra­ Parliament House, but there are some tionists destroyed the portrait of the of us who addressed rallies of 50,000 Father of the Nation which was taken and 1 lakh people in Andhra and out from the wooden frame. Here are 273 Andhra Budget, CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) D.G. (on Acct.) & 274 D. S. G. the portraits of Netaji and Rajaji in 1970-71 they are 83.1 crores and which were disfigured. And here is in 1971-72 they are 97.2 crores and in a burnt copy of Mahabharata. This this year it is 87 crores. When the is what the so-called integrationists budget is decreasing what does it have done in Andhra. (Interruptions) mean? Is it a good budget or bad bud­ I accept the challenge. I have taken get? From the public finance point away these things in the presence of of view if the expenditure and income the police. I have given a statement are equally balanced, then it is sup­ to the pressmen, “In your presence, posed to be a good budget. Even if I am carrying away these ramnants the expenditure is more with a deficit, and I will display them in Parlia­ still it can be stated as a good bud­ ment.” get. The growing expenditure might be due to the growing expenditure on This is the situation that is obtain­ developmental projects. If you see ing there. At the same time, I also the present budget, it does not seem condemn the acts of hooliganism in to reflect such state of affair. We which the public property was des­ want progress in all fields We want troyed there. This only shows to create more opportunities to the that an abnormal situation is obtain­ proper sections of the society. We ing there. The Prime Minister tells would like to create more employ­ the people of Andhra, 1H them ment potential by taking up various develop normalcy and then the Gov­ developmental projects in hand. How ernment can consider all aspects, are you going to achieve this? including bifurcation. The Prime Minister has said m this House, “Let normalcy be developed and then, all The conditions in the State are so aspects, including bifurcation can be bad that there is not enough land for considered.” all those who want to take to agricul­ ture. Those who have land cannot Let me say in this House that the profitably cultivate because the neces­ trend of this Government is such that sary power is not available. This if normalcy developed in Andhra, this forced them to take to oil engines to Government will return to normalcy run their tubwells. Then there is a which means indecision and inertia. scarcity of crude and deiesel oil. These Thereiore, by peaceful and democratic are some of the difficulties which our methods, the agitation of Andhra will farmers are facing. In view of the be carried on till the aspirations of above conditions we cannot have, the people to divide the State into possibly, any progress. It is a differ­ Telengana and Andhra are fulfilled. ent matter to have lot of progress on ♦SHRI T. BALAKRISHNIAH (Tiru paper. pathi): The Andhra Budget for the year 1973-74 has been brought before I would like to mention here that this House, In the normal conditions the Governmen did not think it fit to it would have been placed before the start even a single industry in the Andhra Assembly and would have four very backward districts of been passed by the Members of that Rayalayseema. It is a well known fact Assembly. It has been brought here that the Telengana is also a backward because of the prevailing unprece­ region. One will come acros back­ dented political and economic condi­ ward regions even in the agricul­ tions in the State. turally advanced districts of Andhra Pradesh. Government has not done When we look ; t this budget, it lanything to improve the situation. does not give us an encouraging pic­ No large scale industry has been ture of the finances of the State. In started in Andhra Pradesh in any of 1909-70 the figures are 70 7 crores and these backward areas. •The Original speech was delievered in Telugu. 275 Andhra Budget, MARCH 22, 1973 D. G. (on Acct.) & DJS.C. 276

TShri T. BalakrishniahJ in my constituency, understand their It is stated, as per the report given difficulties and make the Government by the State Government, that the solve them as effectively as possible. unemployment figure would be around If my friends are supporters of 10 lakhs for 1972-73. I think that this socialist policies I would like to invite figure would go up in 1973-74. them to exchange my property for theirs. I would like to express my heart felt sympathies with the families of We are not against the leadership- those victims of police firing in of Shrimati Indira Gandhi nor against Cuddapah and Anantapuram etc. her progressive policies nor we are Particularly I express my sympathies against the integrity of the country. to the NGOs families who lost their We only urge the Government to find lives in the firing done by CRP a peaceful and quick solution when an yesterday in Cuddapah. 1 would like unprecedented situation has been t0 state the example of the battle of created in the State of Andhra Kuiukshetra here. It is not only the Pradesh. Kauravas and Pandav as but also the I would like to conclude by saving mediators namely Yadavas families that we should follow the path of who also lost Iheir lives. It is there­ peace and progress and not the path fore not correct to say that this of violence and oppression which is agitation kould bring disaster and being perpetrated with the help of difficulty to a section of the people. CRP and the army, for the solution It is also not correct for the Govern­ of any problem in my Stale. I would ment to be complacent about the agi­ therefore like to urge the Government tation. I would like to submit that to withdraw the CRP and the army. this would end up in total disaster. The Government should also come It is better and proper to bow to the forward and appoint judicial inquiry wishes of the people and bifurcate the into all those incidents of firing and State when people of both Telengana lathi charge on the pe^le of Andhra. and Andhra desire separation. I SHRI M. SATYANARAYAN RAO would like to state here that the (Karimnagar); It is * matter of Andhras have no resemblance either great shame that the Andhra Pradesh cultural or otherwise to the people of budget had to be presented in this Telengana When I speak in Telugu House. It is because of the unusual here my friend Shri Rama Gopal and undemocratic action of the Reddy so-eaks in Urdu. He does not Central Government which has im­ know Telugu. That is why I state posed the President rule there. There that our cultures are different. was no crisis. As I had already sub­ There are several very rich people mitted in this House several times, it like Shri Pattabhi Rama Rao, Shri is not because of no-confidence in the P. V. G. Raju and Shri Ram Gopal Chief Minister, it is not because he Reddy who are members here and are is lacking the support of the MLAs not poor like me. Are they landless? but it is because the separatists have Are they homeless? These are the gained majority and in order to pre­ integrationists and these are the vent these people from passing any socialists. These are the people who resolution in the House these people support the progressive policies of our have imposed the President rule there. Government. That is the most unfortunate thing and we are denying the right of the Because oi their riches they can representatives of the people, via:., afford to continue to stay here in the MLAs from discussing the Delhi or Hyderabad without facing the Budget there, and we are discussing people who elected them. Poor people it here. Are we

[Shri M. Satyanarayan Rao] six-point formula will be implemented. think that by infiltrating into your Then and there I resigned. I said, if that is so, I have nothing to do with organisation they will capture the your congress I will be with the peo­ power. That is why they are sup­ porting, it is not because they sup- ple. And, I am with the people. If poit your policies. This is the thing you are honest you should do this; you must keep in your mind. otherwise no objective will be achiev­ ed at all. Sir, I am sorry 1 have to say all these things. I did not want to speak Coming to the Budget, tne Finance because 1 already spoke so many Minister has showQ some surplus, that times on this. But I thought I have is, Rs. 51 lakhs. With the assistance to say all these when I hear CPI and loan of the Central Government friends say that they condemn reac­ this is possible. But there is no large tionaries, landlords and all that. Mr. outlay, there is no scheme which they Balakrishniah my friend was telling are going to take up and that is why about the harijans. He is not a land- they show a surplus here. As I said, lood he if; a separatist. He said this: Telengana is facing unprecedented All right, baba, I offer by property to drought and famine. There is no the so-called integralionists. I am not water, no electricity. Agriculturists concerned here with socialism or with are suffering very much. I have been anything. I am concerned with pros­ to my constituency recently. There lS perity of the people I am concerned no electricity. It is completely cut with the feelings of Ihe people. You off. Because of the scarcity of elec­ cannot suppress the real feelings of tricity, agriculturists have purchased the people. Sitting h^re you c&nnot oil engines but the most unfortunate appreciate the feelings of the people, thing is there is no diesel oil avail­ it is very esay to say. Oh, no, no, no, able. I was surprised to learn that it Is a movement of landlords, it is a the authorities are not allowing the movement of reactionaries, it is a dealers to import diesel oil from Bom­ movement of self-interested persons, bay where it is available. I do not disgruntled elements and all that. It know why they are not allowing? Why is very easy to say so. What hap­ are they making people to suffer like pened to my friends the so-called sepa­ this? Not only they will suffer but ratists? When they go to Andhra you will also suffer. After all pro­ area they say we are with you, we duction will go down. Bureaucrats are going to quit the party, we are are not bothered. They are bothered going to sit with so-called separatists, about themselves. This is the most but whenever they come here they important thing which has to be kept change; I do not know what happened, in mind by the Finance Ministry. whether ft is because of Mr. Raghu- ramaiah or because of the Prime I am very sorry to point out al­ Miri«ter but they are sitting there. I though our Andhra man, Dr. K. L. pity these people. If they go to the Rao, is at the head of Irrigation Minis­ people they will not be condemned try yet we are the second lowest in because consistently at least they are the country) in producing electricity. saying so, but you are in trouble. If We have got all the resources. We you go 1o the people you will be have got plenty of c'lai and water- condemned and I think there is no Thermal power as well as hydro- safety for you. You will have to electricity can be generated. I know decide finally and I am telling you his difficulty. He is only Power Minis­ my bitter experience also. ter but he has no political power be­ I also joined the congress after this hind him. The sanctioning authority merger, after evolving of the six- are others. He also says what can point formula. When I went to Simla, be do. He is only Power Minister in when I told her, you please imple­ name. He cannot have this politioal ment it, she said: I never said that power. You. please, give him political Xtl AMikra Budget, CHA1TRA 1, MM (SAKA) D.G. (on Acct.) it ate jD. 5* Cr« power. I request Dr. Rao it he is not to the Prime Minister so that the pro­ able to help Andhra people then it is blem can be solved peacefully and better for him to quit the Ministry. permanently. If some other Minister comes we can SHRIMATI T. LAKSHMIKAN- force him. We cannot force Dr. Rao THAMMA (Khammam): I did not because he happens to be the Andhra want to participate in this debate be­ man. We are exporting coal to Madras cause our speeches, utterances or and other neighbouring States. They paritcipation in these debates seem are generating power and we £re de­ to be provoking the separatists. Even pending on Madras, Mysore, Kerala the very living of the integrationists and Orissa. seems to be a provocation to some friends. So I though I should not Now, I take up land reforms. I <»m cause any further provocation. But the first person to support the land when Prof. Dandavate said something reforms Bill but the most unfortunate about the Tenali meeting, I thought I thing is the Government is not imple­ should give some facts to the House. menting it. You might have got diffi­ The other day during the debate culties in Andhra but what about on the promulgation of President’s Telengana, You can easily implement rule in the State, they said that the it 311 Telengana. What prevents you integrationist MLAs were sitting in from implementing it in Telengana? Hyderabad, that they could not stay In the name of land reforms people in Andhra, that they could not go out, are made to suffer. Shri Narasimha that they could not face the people Rao when he was the Chief Minister and all that. Today the complaint is had issued the Ordinance prohibiting the other way their appearance will' the people alienating the land. Be­ mean civil war, that they have been cause of that Ordinancetbe middle- holding big meetings. According to class agriculturists are suffering and Prof. Dandavate.... they arc not able to obtain any loan from the banks because they cannot SHRI G. VISWANATHAN: He said mortgage their lands These sre the he held the meeting. difficulties. These difficulties must be SHRIMATI T. LOKSHMIKAN- mitigated af once otherwise the whole THAMMA: ....there was a big pro­ economy will be ruined. cession in Tenali and that demons­ My last point is about contractors’ trated their influence, agencies. In Andhra Pradesh the MR. CHAIRMAN: She need not contractors are becoming lnkhiers and reply to that. they are dominating politics also without any difficulty. They are SHRIMATI T. LAKSHMIKAN- earning lakhs of rupees easily. Al­ THAMMA: He said about the inte­ though the drought funds are released grationists’ procession. You were not for the benefit of the so-called agri­ here because you were busy thinking cultural labourers yet these people of something else because you are are utilising this money because con­ very much involved in it—I will come tract agencies will be given to them to that later. and without spending. In collusion with the bureaucrats* so-called super­ Shri Viswanathan took the first visors and engineers, they are earning opportunity to tour the troubled the money without doing any work Andhra area to create dissensions there. among the Andhra and Telangana friends. This is an internal affair of ours. Tomorrow, suppose I say Mad­ So this thing must be kept in mind- ras should be divided.... Of course, it is not in the hands of the Pinanee Minister to bifurcate the SHRI G. VISWANATHAN: You State or to solve thia problem. But have created more trouble in Andhra let him at least convey these feelings than anybody else. (Interruptions) 383 Andhra Budget, MARCH W, 1973 D.G. (or. Acct.) & D^S.O. 284

SHRIMATI T. LAKSHMUCAN- “Deputy leader of the DMK Par­ 'THAMMA: I know. I was at Vellore liamentary Party Shri V. Viswana- in his constituency when the M. Q. than, said that Prime Minister Smt. Ramachandran trouble was going os Indira Gandhi is acting in a more then he hid himself in a police sta­ mean way than the British rulers. tion. I was present there. In case the Centre takes to threat­ ening postures, we shall conduct the SHRI G. VISWANATHAN: You ask the people. ' FJ fight for the separation of the entire south, he said.” SHRIMATI T. L AKSHMIK AN - "TRAMMA: My brother was in the SHRI G. VISWANATHAN: This Vellore hospital. I went there to see was quoted earlier and I replied to him. Then I learnt that these two it; I repudiated it. You were not MPs hid themselves. Every State has here when Andhra was discussed. got its own problems, every State has its own troubles (.Interruptions). SHRIMATI T. LAKSHMIKAN- THAMMA: When an hon. Member SHRI MOHANRAJ KALINGARA. says something, we must accept it. YAR (Pollachi): It is just a story. 16 hrs. SHRIMATI T. LAKSHMIKAN- THAMMA: I was present there. It is At this Tenali meeting, where the not a story. integrationists held the meeting, SHRI G. VISWANATHAN: You are bombs were thrown seven times at responsible for the major portion of this meeting. (Interruption) Here is the photograph of the persons injured ^ in it. Not one of them got up from’ SHRI MOHANRAJ KALINGARA- the meeting. That is the determina­ YAR: You are the main cause of tion of these people who are here. everything. SHRI G VISWANATHAN: The SHRIMATI T. LAKSHMIKAN- THAMMA: Do not bring your mind CRP in mufti. into this (Interruptions). SHRI E. R. KRISHNAN (Salem): SHRIMATI T. LAKSHMIKAN- There is no separatist problem in THAMMA: This is the photograph of Tamil Nadu. the person who is hit and here is an­ MR. CHAIRMAN: The hon. Member other photo. An ex-lady Minister— will address the Chair. (Interrup­ now that they are not Ministers and tions) . so, she has now become an ex-Minis- ter—was present there. Now, it is SHRIMATI T. LAKSHMIKAN- good that most of the MLAs have THAMMA: We are brothers, whether gone back because we will have to in Telengana or in Andhra. We are explain to the people. How long we brothers and sisters. Tomorrow we can live like cowards either in will adjust ourselves. Hyderabad or in Madras or some SHRI G. VISWANATHAN: This other place? They have decided matter is before Parliament and the rightly. They have not provoked. country. It is not with Andhra now. May be other parties; but we are not If it was purely an affair of Andhra, I responsible for the other parties. Law 'would not have spoken. and order should take its own course. Whether it is this party or that party, SHRIMATI T. LAKSHMIK AN - law and order has to be maintained. •THAMMA: I will quote from a des­ But as far as our party is concerned, patch dated Nellore, 5th February by credit must be given to them because the representative of Andhra Jyoti: even under tall proyocation— 285 Andhora Budget, CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) D. G. (on Acct.) & 286 D. S. G. AN HON. MEMBER: Violence. Sagar. (Interruption) I am sorry SHRIMATI T. LAKSHMIKAN- that in this process I have not been THAMMA: Violence, created not by able to bring out the material pro­ our party, or even by separatists; but gress of the State of Andhra Pradesh. there are others—(Interruptions). But these are the fundamental things. ME. CHAIRMAN: Don’t be reply­ One unhappy thing I felt was this. ing to every interruption. The land reform Bill was brought, and then there were certain forces and SHRIMATI T. LAKSHMIKAN- all that. What prevents President’s THAMMA: Anyhow, in Andhra Pra­ rule to implement the land reform desh they said they created emotions, measures and so many other things? or that emotions were created because Supposing there are certain other of the linguistic States and so many progressive measures! What prevents other things. them from implementing them? It is I am one who believes in God and all the more easy for the President’s who believes that whatever happens rule to implement them. is for the good of the country. So, What happens is, Mr. V.K. Rao, the toaay what happens m Andhra Pra­ Adviser says, “No implementation of desh it- an eye-opener to the whole land reforms till normalcy is restor­ country. What are the forcc? What ed *’ That means you continue the is happening*’ What is behind, and movement so that normalcy will not then, what are the forces working return, and the land reforms may not against the Centre? They have start­ be implemented. Is this the way the ed righ ly or wrongly,—may be pres­ President’s rule, this regime, has to sures Oi whatever it is saying that it function? So, I feel it is wrong. That was unwarranted; that the imposition statement itself is wrong. of Pr< Md-nt’s lule was unwarranted in Andhi i Jradei»h. W hatievei it is— Sii, a part of the bureaucracy has (Inien iwUons) been helping certain elements, and I MR CHAIRMAN. Order please. I think it is wrong. am not allowing anything. Let the MR. CHAIRMAN: Please conclude. hon. Member continue SHRIMATI T. LAKSHMIKAN - SHRIMATI T. LAKSHMIKAN - THAMMA: One word more and I THAMMA: I did not want to speak shall stop. I refer to the NGOs. They because my speaking itself is a provo­ are part of ourselves. I have nothing cation, because truth is bitter always. against anybody. When there is an So, I appeal to the Prime Minister not ('motional wave everyone is involved. to lose sight of the facts, and that in May be technically it is wrong. But a very real sense her regime is expec­ because it is on emotional issue, they ted 10 create bdth political and consti­ have involved themselves at the cost tutional history in the country. Sup­ of their own suffering and sacrifice. I posing what we have done in Andhra think now they should think of the had created such an impact in other country and then do a greater sacri­ parts of the country; what has hap­ fice in joining back the service. pened in Orissa; in Gujarat? What is happening in some other parts? Another thing is this My sympa­ thies are for those who died, especial­ AN HON. MEMBER: Mysore. ly the NGOs who died the day before SHRIMATI T. LAKSHMIKAN. yesterday in the incident at Cudda- THAMMA.: This churning is going on. pah; and more of the separatist lea­ This is ’ike the Sagarmantan—Ksheera ders are coming here. Some sepa- 3983 LS—10. 291 Andhara Budget, MARCH 22, 1973 D.G. (on Acct.) & D.S.G. 292

[Shri K. R. Ganesh] who try to reduce the emotional situa­ tion to a class struggle. There are tradition and history of their own. I various factors which have come into agree with Prof. Dandavate that being which have highly surcharged Telengana, as part of Andhra Pra­ emotionally the situation. Therefore, desh, has been the crucible of many we have to apply the healing touch. experiments and also the failure of We have to create a situation in which those experiments. Left extremism discussion can be possible and a solu­ failed there. Bhoodan was tried. I tion can be found out. The Prime would not say it has failed, but the Minister has said time and a gain problem still continues. I think the that 3II view points will be taken into experiment which is being tried now consideration had discussed before there will also fail in, Telengana. It any decision is taken. is quite obvious. We have been fol­ lowing for the last 25 years many of these experiments that have been We all know the genius of the there and I am only surprised that a Andhra people and their political tra­ socialist of his persuasion should have ditions. They have fought all forms allowed himself to be thrown into of reactionary forces in this country. this position in which he finds him­ They have been in the vanguard, in self today, because he will not be one form or another, all these years able to get out of that. In the politi­ and I am sure they will be able to cal life of a country a time comes find a solution for the present prob­ when one has to take a decision, lem also. if it becomes a little unpopular, even if some people may not like it. The Centre and the States have faced many difficult problems and SHRIMATI T. L AKSHMIK AN - we have solvod them. This Parlia­ THAMA: We have overthrown the ment has been able to find solutions Nizam. We, the Telengana people, to various difficult problems which will overthrow the feudalism also this nation faced from time to time, whether it is linguistic or otherwise. SHRI K. R. GANESH: Sir, you We are confident that for this prob­ belong to a very senior generation. It lem also this supreme and sovereign surprised all of us who belong to a Parliament will find a solution which younger generation of political work­ is acceptable to all. ers to hear Shri Pi loo Mody speak about the struggle that is going on It is not necessary for me to go in Andhra. Sir, there must be a cer­ into the genesis of the whole thing. tain amount of seriousness in the poli­ I will only say that to single out the tical life of this country. Some of us Prime Minister and criticise her is who have been roused with political not correct or objectivef It may poli­ consciousness in the composite State tically look very attractive but it is of Madras understand the ethos of certainly not very objective. After all, Andhra and the compulsions that were it was not possible to find a solution there in Andhra, much better than for the Mulki Rule in Andhra itself. Shri Piloo Mody will be able to under­ Therefore, the leaders of Andhra ask­ stand. Therefore, to glibily talk ed the Central Government to find about the struggle that is going on a solution. After protracted discus­ there is political shibboleth which has sion with all the interests involved in no, gelation to reality. Andhra for a sufficient length of time.... We all realise that the situation in Andhra is very sensitive, it is very SHRI G. VISWANATHAN: No time emotional. But I will not agree with was given. The Cabinet was asked some of our friends on the left side to ratify it the same day. 285 Andhura Budget, CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) D.G. (on Acct.) A 286 D. S. G. AN HON. MEMBER: Violence. Sagar. (Interruption) I am sorry SHRIMATI T. LAKSHMIKAN- that in this process I have not been THAMMA: Violence, created not by able to bring out the material pro­ our party, or even by separatists; but gress of the State of Andhra Pradesh. there are others— (Interruptions). But these are the fundamental things. MR. CHAIRMAN: Don’t be reply­ One unhappy thing I felt was this. ing to every interruption. The land reform Bill was brought, and then there were certain forces and SHRIMATI T. LAKSHMIKAN- all that. What prevents President’s THAMMA: Anyhow, in Andhra Pra­ rule to implement the land reform desh they said they created emotions, measures and so many other things? or that emotions were created because Supposing there are certain other of the linguistic States and so many progressive measuresfl What prevents other things. them from implementing them? It is I am one who believes in God and all the more easy for the President’s who believes that whatever happens rule to implement them. is for the good of the country. So, What happens is, Mr. V.K. Rao, the toaay what happens in Andhra Pra­ Adviser says, “No implementation of desh is an eye-opener to the whole land reforms till normalcy is restor­ country. What are the force? What ed.” That means you continue the is happening? What is behind, and movement so that normalcy will not then, what are the forces working return, and the land reforms may not against the Centre? They have start­ be implemented. Is this the way the ed rightly or wrongly,—may be pres­ President’s rule, this regime, has to sures or whatever it is saying that it function? So, I feel it is wrong. That was unwarranted; that the imposition statement itself is wrong. of President’s rule was unwarranted in Andhra Pradesh. Whatever it as— Sir, a part of the bureaucracy has (Interruptions) been helping certain elements, and I MR. CHAIRMAN: Order please. I think it is wrong. am not allowing anything. Let the MR. CHAIRMAN: Please conclude. hon. Member continue. SHRIMATI T. L AKSHMIK AN - SHRIMATI T. LAKSHMIKAN- THAMMA: One word more and I THAMMA: I did not want to speak shall stop. I refer to the NGOs. They because my speaking itself is a provo­ are part of ourselves. I have nothing cation, because truth is bitter always. against anybody. When there is an So, I appeal to the Prime Minister not emotional wave everyone is involved. to lose sight of the facts, and that in May be technically it is wrong. But a very real sense her regime is expec­ because it is on emotional issue, they ted to create both political and consti­ have involved themselves at the cost tutional history in the country. Sup­ of their own suffering and sacrifice. I posing what we have done in Andhra think now they should think of the had created such an impact in other country and then do a greater sacri­ parts of the country; what has hap­ fice in joining back the service. pened in Orissa; in Gujarat? What is happening in some other parts? Another thing is this. My sympa­ thies are for those who died, especial­ AN HON. MEMBER: Mysore. ly the NGOs who died the day before SHRIMATI T. LAKSHMIKAN. yesterday in the incident at Cudda- THAMMA: This churning is going on. pah; and more of the separatist lea­ This is like the Sagarmantan—Ksheera ders are coming here. Some sepa- 3983 LS—10. 2 9* Andhara Budget, MARCH 22, 1973 D.G* fan Ac<%.) & &S.G, 2$Z

[Shri K. R. Ganesh] who try to reduce the emotional situa­ tion to a class struggle. There are tradition and history of their own. I various factors which have come into agree with Prof. Dandavate that being which have highly surcharged Telengana, as part ol Andhra Pra­ emotionally the situation. Therefore, desh, has been the tjrucible of many we have to apply the healing touch. experiments and also the failure of We have to create a situation in which those experiments. Left extremism discussion can be possible and a solu­ failed there. Bhoodan was tried. I tion can be found out. The Prime would not say it has failed, but the Minister has said time and a gain problem still continues. I think the that all view points will be taken into experiment which is being tried now consideration had discussed before there, will also fail in, Telengana. It any decision is taken. is quite obvious. We have been fol­ lowing for the last 25 years many of these experiments that have been We all know the genius of the there and I am only surprised that a Andhra people and their political tra­ socialist of his persuasion should have ditions. They have fought all forms allowed lumself to be thrown into of reactionary forces, in this country. thus ppsition m which he finds him­ They have been m the vanguard, in self today bocau'O he will not be one form or another, all these years able to f>ct out of that. In the politi­ and I am sure they will be able to cal liic of a country a time comes find a solution for the present prob­ when one has to take a decision, lem also. if it becomes a little unpopular, even if some people mav not like it. The Centre and the States have laced man j difficult problems and SHRIMATI T L AKSHMIK AN - we have solved them. This Parlia­ THAMA: We hj\e overthrown the ment has been able to find solutions Nizam. We, the Telengana people, co various difficult problems which will overthrow the feudalism also. this nation iaced from time to time, whether it is linguistic or otherwise. SHRI K. R. GANESH: Sir, you We are confident that for this prob­ belong to a very senior generation. It lem also this supreme and sovereign surprised all of us who belong to a Parliament wifi find a solution which younger generation of political work­ is acceptable to all. ers to hear Shri Piloo Mody speak aboiif the struggle that is going on It is not necessary for me lo go m Andhra. Sir, there must be a cer­ into the genesis of the whole thing. tain amount of seriousness in the poli­ I will only say that to single out the tical life of this country. Some of us Prime Minister and criticise her is who have b6en roused with political not correct or objective* It may poli­ consciousness m the composite State tically look very attractive but it is of Madras understand the ethos of certainly not very objective. After all, Andhra and the compulsions that were it was not possible to find a solution there in Andhra, much better than for the Mulki Rule in Andhra itself. Shri Piloo Mody will be able to under­ Tuerefore, the lead< rs of Andhra ask­ stand. Therefore, to glibily talk ed the Central Government to find aSout the struggle that is going on a solution. After protracted discus­ there is political shibboleth which has sion with all the interests involved in no relation to reality. Andhra for a sufficient length of time---- We all realise that the situation in Andhra is very sensitive, it is very SHRI G. VISWANATHAN: No time emotional. But I will not agree with was given. The Cabinet was asked some of our friends on the left side to ratify it the same day. Andhara Budget, CHAITRA 1, 1898 (SAKA) D.G. (on Acct.) Si 294 D.. S. G. SHRI K. R. GANESH: After pro­ Necessary situation has got to be crea­ tracted discussions with all the inter­ ted in which political situation will ests in Andhra consensus was arrived be anived at which will be to the at which the Prime Minister announ­ satisfaction ot he largest majority cf ced in Parliament. To attack the the peope of Andhra. Prime Minister, saying that she deiay- ed the whole thing is certainly dirty Having said this, I would just men­ politics, 1 hough may be some political tion a few financial points which have groups might take advantage of it been made by some hon. Members. As far as what Shri Pi loo Mody has We know how Andhra was formed. said about Telengana and Andhia The country is also aware of Iho prob­ separate budgets, I think, he is a new lem of Telengana, its own history, it? comer to the situation of Andhra and own under developed State under he wants to leave all the gaps and Nizam, its own history of struggle lump into the Andhra situation. What against the feudal elements that were has taken place in Andhra right from there. We know the fact that Vishal the time Vishal Andhra was formed? Andhra was formed and the great On the question of separate budget Telugu people acclaimed Vishai figures for Andhra part and for Andhra as the culmination of their Telengana part, this was given in the dream of having an integrated State Presidential Order of March, 1970 in whiv-h their language and culture which directed that this should be should develop. done. It was for the consideration of the Telengana Regional Committee. Later on, some problems came out The objective of this was to see that and

MR. CHAIRMAN: The question i*;: MR. CHAIRMAN; The question is: “That leave be granted to intro­ duce a Bill tp authorise payment “That the Bill be passed.” and appropriation of certain further sums from and out of the Consolida­ The motion was adopted. ted Fund of the State of Andhra Pradesh for the services of the fin­ 16.39 hrs. ancial year 1972-73.” Re. C.B.I. INQUIRY INTO RACS SCANDAL The motion was adopted. SHRI K. jR. GANESH: I introduce! the Bill. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Dia­ mond Harbour): Subsequent to the I beg to movef: yesterday’s discussion on the rags

•Published in the Gazette of Ind’a Extraordinary, Part jl, Section 2, dated 2JW-73. flntroJuced moved with the recommendation of the President. 293 ■ATidhura Budget, CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) D.G. (on Accl.) & 294 D. S. G. SHRI K. R. GANESH: After pro­ Necessary situation has got to be crea­ tracted discussions with all the inter­ ted in which political situation will ests in Andhra consensus was arrived be arrived at which will be to the at which the Prime Minister announ­ satisfaction of the largest majority of ced in Parliament. To attack the the peope of Andhra. Prime Minister, saying that she delay­ ed the whole thing is certainly dirty Having said this, I would just men­ politics, though may be some political tion a few financial points which have groups might take advantage of it. been made by some hon. Members. As far as what Shri Piloo Mody has We know how Andhra -was formed. said about Telengana and Andhra The country is also aware of the prob­ separate budgets, I think, he is a new lem of Telengana, its own history, its comer to the situation of Andhra and own under developed State under he want's to leave all the gaps and Nizam, its own history of struggle jump into the Andhra situation. What against the feudal elements that were has taken place in Andhra right from there. We know the fact that Vishal the time Vishal Andhra was formed? Andhra was formed and the great On the question of separate budget Telugu people acclaimed VLshai figures for Andhra part and for Andhra as the culmination of their Telengana part, this was given in the dream of having an integrated Stale Presidential Order of March, 1970 in which their language and culture which directed that this should be should develop. done. It was for the consideration of the Telengana Regional Committee. Later on, some problems came out The objective of this was to see that and the gentleman’s agreement was Telengana gets adequate share of its there. Andhra people gave an assu­ own development. Therefore, it is not rance to the Telengana people about a recognition of a separate State. It the utilisation of surplus. The Bhar- is a recognition of a particular reality gava Committee was formed and the with which both the parts of the State surplus was determined and the Pre­ started. sidential Order was thereon the ques­ tion of Budget. As far as the Plan allotment is concerned, for 1973-74 the approved These things are there. We are in Plan outlay is Rs. 87.59 crores which a situation which is a complex situa­ is Rs. 8..80 crores more than the tion and which is a difficult situation. anticipated Plan expenditure for It is not possible to arrive at a correct 1972-73. Rs. 55.21 crores will be decision to this atmosphere which is financed by the Central assistance in charged even now. addition to Rf* 5.30 crores which has been provided in the Budget for The question of violence is there. Telengana development schemes. It Of course, we condemn violence, whe­ is true that the Plan outlay of Andhra ther it is done by integrationists or has been facing certain difficulties by separationists or even if it is ex­ right from 1969-70. Now, it is for the cessively done by the police. Vio­ Government of Andhra Pradesh, when lence breeds violence. Let us realise the popular Governments comes into that lesson. We realised in West Ben­ being, to take this into consideration gal to the utter dismay of many po­ and have a discussion with the Plan­ litical forces as well as out of tremen­ ning Commission to see that the gap dous experience of West Bengal that that is there is removed in the Fifth violence does not pay. Violence Plan. breeds violence. What we see in Andhra today is the application of Another difficulty that has been this thing. Violence has got to go. there is that in this short period, it 299 Andhra Pradesh MARCH 22, 1973 Re. Rags Scandai 306 Appropriation Bill SHRI G. VISWANATHAN: About “That the Bill to authorise pay­ the Godavari barrage, I raised so ment and appropriation of certain many questions in the House and I further sums from and out of the expect the Minister to make a state­ Consolidated Fund of the State of ment as to how much allotment has Andhra Pradesh for the services of been made for it. the financial year 1972-73, be taken into consideration.” SHRI K. R. GANESH: The expen­ diture so far incurred on the barrage MR. CHAIRMAN; The question is: is Rs. 2.54 crores. It is proposed to “That the Bill to authorise pay­ spend in 1973-74, Rs. 3.90 crores and ment and appropriation of certain the total cost 0f the repairs to the further sums from and out of the barrage is Rs. 26.59 crores. I have Consolidated Fund of the State of noted the points raised by the hon. Members and I will convey them to Andhra Pradesh for the services of the Andhra Pradesh Government. the financial year 1972-73, be taken Into consideration.” MR. CHAIRMAN: Now the quet- tion is: The motion was adopted. MR CHAIRMAN; Now the ques­ “That the Rill be passed ” tion is- The motion was adopted. "That Clauses 2 and 3, the Sche­ dule, Clause 1 the Enacting Formula ANDHRA PRADESH APPROPRIA­ and the Title stand part of the Bill.” TION BIEL*, 1973 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE The motion was adopted. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Clauses 2 and 3. the Schedule, K. R. GANESH): I beg to move for Clause 1, the Enacting Formvla and the leave to introduce a Bill to authorise Title were added to the Bill. payment and appropriation of certain further sums from and out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of An­ SHRI K. R. GANESH: I move; dhra Pradesh for the services of the financial year 1972-73. “That the Bill be passed.”

MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is: MR. CHAIRMAN; The question is: “That leave be granted to intro* duce a Bill tp authorise payment “That the Bill be passed.” and appropriation of certain further sums from and out of the Consolida­ The motion was adopted. ted Fund of the State of Andhra Pradesh for the services of the fin­ 16,39 hrs. ancial year 1972-73/’ Re. C.B.I. INQUIRY INTO RACS SCANDAL The motion was adopted. SHRI K. iR. GANESH: I introduce! the BUI. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Dia­ mond Harbour): Subsequent to the I beg to movet: yesterday’s discussion on the rags

*Publishe ’ in the Gazette of Ind a Extraordinary, Part II, Sections, dateU 22-3-78. flntroiuced moved with the recommendation of the President. 30i Re. Rags Scandal CHAITRA I, 1895 (SAKA) Rc. Rags Scandat 302

•scandal, I inquired from tne Table SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: He CO. '1“ whether the list of persons who are clusivelj, voluntarily said that. TherA being tackled by the CBi jp the rags must be a sense of morality. scandal has been laid on the Table, and I learnt it is not there. You know MR. CHAIRMAN: I neither said no, much better than I do, Sir. Yester­ nor yes. I did not prevent him either. day's proceedings will show to you:

“Investigations and como airst* al­ SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: You are ready passed on to the CBI are quite right. being pursued vigorously, .t will be seen frojn what I have satd and MR. CHAIRMAN: It is not proper what is recorded that the CCI has for me now to say because this matter already registered 22 inquiries and 4 ended yesterday. So, now it is proper cases from 16-1-73 to 4-3-73.” foi me to ask the Minister about it.. SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: The (Begusutai): Against whom? Minister is here, Sir. You can issue a duective. THE MINSTER OF COMMERCE (PROF. D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA): MR. CHAIRMAN. He is sitting here. It is a long list of names with me. If He is hearing. Now the matter is be­ you allow me. Sir, I can lay it on the fore you and the Minister and the Table of the House, Speaker. SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU; And the It may be laid on the Table of the Chairman, Sir. House.

PROF. D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA: PROF D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA: Of course. We have nothing to hide, I told this yesterday and I repeat to­ nothing to conceal, because we are day. If it is the wish of the House against corruption as much as the opposition. and if you direct me to lay down. I will lay it down. I have nothing to In spite of this, during the last 24 canceal, nothing to hide, hours, the Government has not found the time to lay it on the Table of the House. This is how they are treating MR. CHAIRMAN: Now, the thing this House. This shows with what is this. You can write to the Speaker contempt they are treating the House. whatever the position is, and take his direction. MR. CHAIRMAN: The proceedings are before you. I have also consulted SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: What is the proceedings. I did not commit myself. I did not ask him to lay It the decision, Sir? on the Table of the House. If you interpret it as you are interpreting MR. CHAIRMAN: He will write now, you may please write to the hon. to the Speaker. Speaker and he will give the decision. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BQSU: You SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA should give your ruling here and now. (Begusaral): A point of order, Sir. . S ir....

SHRI G. VISWANATHAN (Wandi- MR. CHAIRMAN: He will write wash): The Minister himself 8aid that to the Speaker. I have requested him he will lay it on the Table of the to write to the Speaker, he has agreed House. to that; your purpose is served. 307 Statutory Resolution MARCH 22, 1973 Orissa Budget, & D. G. 308 (On Account) etc. [Shri K. C. Pant] justification for the course of action the Governor accepted her resignation, adopted by the Governor and the but requested her to continue until President. Constitutionally there was alternative arrangements could be no alternative. This may be unpala­ made. In other words, he did not table to some. However, for this what straightway and automatically accept needs to be blamed is the nature of the advice of dissolution. the malady and hot IKe bitterness of the medicine. Considering the cir­ The leader of the Orissa Pragati cumstances in which the President has Legislature Party met, the Governor made his proclamation under article that same morning and claimed that 356 in relation to the State of Orissa, he would be in a position to form an I am sure the House will approve the alternative government! The Gover­ proclamation issued by the President. nor informed the leader of the Orissa Pragati Legislature Party that he would give due consideration to the sfr TWT^rTT : mrnfh q f t - latter’s claim. On the same day, a few hours later, one member wrote to &r, tot tfr the Governor that his signature was taken by force and that he was not STTST ir 3TRT t ^rfNrr willing to join the Orissa Pragati f w 5THT SfT%tr I Legislature Party and that he would support Shrimati Nandmi Satpathy. Later that evening, another member fore i&ft wrote to the Governor in the same eft srv 1 voin stating that he was intitmidated, threatened and forced to give his sig­ nature in support of the Orissa Pra­ D e m a n d No. 1—E lection s and other gati Legislature Party. expenditure relating to the H o m e D epa r tm e n t The Governor has pointed out that when he took these letters into con­ MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: sideration, the strength of the Orissa Pragati Legislature Party was only “That a sum not exceeding 70 in a House of 140. Rs, 43,14,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the SHRI SURENDRA MOHANTY: So what? Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the charges which SHRI K. C. PANT: In paragraphs will come in course of payment 12—17 of his report, the Governor has during the year ending the 31st day given cogent reasons as to why he of March, 1974, in respect of came to the conclusion that ‘there is no guarantee that the present majority ‘Elections and other expenditure claimed by Shri Biju Patnaik and his relating to the Home Department’.” supporters will remain stablo’.

D e m a n d No. 2—J a i l s I will request members to porsder dispassionately over these details. MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: The Governor’s report was carefully considered and it was difficult to find “That a sum not exceeding fault with him* Considered in the Rs. 33,99,000 be granted to the proper perspective, there seems hard­ President on account, out of the ly any necessity Cor any elaborate Consolidated Fund of the State of 30i Re. Rags Scandal CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) Re. Rags Scandal ^ 302 scandal, I inquired from tne Table SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: He con­ whether the list of persons who are clusively, voluntarily said that. There being tackled by the CBI lr< the rags must be a sense of morality. scandal has been laid on the Table, and I learnt it is not there. You know MR. CHAIRMAN: I neither said no, much better than I do. Sir. Yester­ nor yes. I did not prevent him either. day’s proceedings will show to you: “Investigations and como'eir.t* al­ SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: You are ready passed on to the CBI are quite right. bemg pursued vigorously. :t will be seen froyn what I have said and MiR. CHAIRMAN: It is not proper what is recorded that the CBI has for me now to say because this matter already registered 22 inquiries and 4 ended yesterday. So, now it is proper cases from 16-1-73 to 4-3-73.” for me to ask the Minister about it.. SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: The (Bcgusarai): Against whom? Minister is here, Sir. You can issue a directive. THE MINSTER OF COMMERCE (PROF. D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA): MR. CHAIRMAN: He is sitting here. It is a long list of names with me. If He is hearing. Now the matter is be­ you allow me, Sir. I can lay it on the fore you and the Minister and the Table of the House. Speaker. SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: It may be laid on the Table of the SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: And the House. Chairman, Sir.

PROF. D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA: PROF D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA: Of course. We have nothing to hide, I told this yesterday and I repeat to­ nothing to conceal, because we are against corruption a$ much as the day. If it is the wish of the House opposition. and if you direct me to lay down. I will lay it down. I have nothing to In spite of this, during the last 24 canceal, nothing to hide. hours, the Government has not found the time to lay it on the Table of the House. This is how they are treating MR. CHAIRMAN: Now, the thing this House. This shows with what is this. You can write to the Speaker contempt they are treating the House. whatever the position is, and take his direction. MR. CHAIRMAN: The proceedings are before you. I have also consulted the proceedings. I did not commit SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: What is myself. I did not ask him to lay it the decision, Sir? on the Table of the House. If you interpret it as you are interpreting MR. CHAIRMAN: He will write now, you may please write to the hon. to the Speaker Speaker and he will give the decision. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BpSU: You SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA should give your ruling here and now, (Begusarai): A point of order, Sir . . Sir....

SHRI G. VISWANATHAN (Wandi- MR. CHAIRMAN: He will write wash): The Minister himself said that to the Speaker. I have requested him he will lay it on the Table of the to write to the Speaker; he has agreed House. to that; your purpose is served. 3o*7 Statutory Resolution MARCH 22, 1973 Orissa Budget, & D. G. 308 (On Account) etc. [Shri K. C. Pant] justification for the course of action the Governor accepted her resignation, adopted by the Governor and the but requested her to continue until President. Constitutionally there was alternative arrangements could be no alternative. This may be unpala­ made. In other words, he did not table to some. However, for this what straightway and automatically accept needs to be blamed is the nature of the advice of dissolution. the malady and not the bitterness of the medicine. Considering the cir­ The leader of the Orissa Pragati cumstances in which the President has Legislature Party met the Governor made his proclamation under articie that same morning and claimcd that 356 in relation to the State of On.»sa, he would be in a position to form an I am suro the House will approve tho yltOL native government, The Gover­ proclamation issued by the President. nor informed the leader of the Orissa Pragati Legislature Party that he would give due consideration to the Matter’s claim. On the same day, a few houis Jaler, one member wrote to the Governor that his signature was STR- tftferr % 3TRT ft y rfq ii1 taken by force and that he was not willing to jom the Orissa Pragati SrfaFT 37T JRffarr 3TRT | Legislature Party and that he would support Shrimati Nandmi Satpathy. Later that evening, another member »?£rcpr cfrrr wrote to the Governor in the same eft affair 1 voin stating that he was intimidated, threatened and forced to give his sig­ nature m support of the Orissa Pra­ D e m a n d No. 1—E lections and otiier gati Legislatuie Party. expenditure relatin g to the H o m e D e pa r tm e n t The Governor has pointed out that when he took these letters into con­ MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: sideration, the strength of the Orissa Pragati Legislature Party was only “That a sum not exceeding 70 in a House of 140. Rs. 43,14,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the SHRI SURENDRA MOHANTY: So Consolidated Fund of the State of what? Orissa, to defray the charges which SHRI K. C. PANT: In paragraphs wjill comc in course of payment 12—17 of his report, the Governor has during the year ending the 31st day given cogent reasons as to why he of March, 1974, in respect of came to the conclusion that ‘there is ‘Elections and other expenditure 110 guarantee that the present majority claimed by Shri Biju Patnaik and his relating to the Home Department’.” supporters will remain stable’.

Demand No. 2—Jails I will request members to ponder dispassionately over these details. MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: The Governor’s report was carefully considered and it was difficult to find “That a sum not exceeding fault with him* Considered in the Rs. 33,99,000 be granted to the proper perspective, there seems hard­ President on account, out • of the ly any necessity !or any elaborate Consolidated Fund of the State of 309 Statutory Resolution CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) Orissa Budget & 310 D.G. (On Account) etc. Orissa, to defray the charges which President on account, out of the will come in course of payment Consolidated Fund of the State of during the year ending the 31st day Orissa, to defray the charges which of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Jails’.” will come in course of payment during the year ending the 31st day D e m a n d N o . 3— P olice of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Com­ munity Development Projects, etc’.” MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved:

“That a sum not exceeding D e m a n d No. 6—E xpenditure relating Rs. 3,25,79,000 be granted to the to the P o litic a l and S ervices President on account, out of the D e pa r tm e n t Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the charges which MR CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: will Lump in course of peyment during the year ending the 31st day “That a sum «iot Exceeding o t March, 1974. in respect of ‘Po­ Rs 17,49,000 be granted to the lice’.” President on account, out the DSMM^ Np, 4—BXPgNPJLTUKJi BXUkTOn Consolidated Fund of the State of to the P la n n in g and C oordination Orissa, to defray the charges which i D e pa r tm e n t ' i * » will come in course of pavment during the year ending the Ulstciav MR. CHAIRMAN- Motion moved: of March, 1974, in respect of “That a sum not exceeding ‘Expenditure relating to the Politi­ Rs 16,77,000 be granted to the cal and Services Department’.” President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of D e m a n d No. 6A—E xpenditure relat­ Orissa, to defray1 the charges which ing to the P olitica l and S ervices will come in course of payment (R V.D ) D epa r tm e n t during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1974, in respect of MR CHAIRMAN* Motion moved: ‘Expenditure relating to the Plann­ ing and Coordination Department’.*’ “’T’hat a sum not exceeding Rs. 64,000 be granted to the D e m a n d No. 4A—E xpenditure relat­ President on account, out of the ing to th e R ural D evelo pm en t Consolidated Fund of the State of D epa r tm e n t Orissa, to defray the charges which will come in course of payment MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: during the year ending the 31st dav “That a sum not exceeding of March, 1*974, in respect of Rs. 2.17,30,000 be granted to the •Expenditure relating to the Political President on account, out of the and Services (R.V.D.Tl Department’.” Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the charges which D e m a n d No. 7—C ultu ral A ffairs will come in course of payment during the year pending the 81st MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: day of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Expenditure relating to the Rural “That ,a sum not exceeding Development Department’.” Rs. 9,20,000 be granted to the President on account out of the D e m a n d No. 5—Co m m trjirrrY D evelop­ Consolidated Fund of the State of m e n t P rojects, etc. Orissa, to defray the charges which MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: will come in course of payment during the year ending the 31st day “That a sum net exceeding of March, 1974, in respect of Rs. 4,5&76,000 be granted to the ‘Cultural Affairs’,” 3 15 Statutory Resolution MARCH 22, 1973 Orissa Budget, & D.G. 316 (On Account) etc. during the year ending the 31st will come in course of payment day of March, 1974, in respect of during the year ending the 31st* ‘Trihal and Rural Welfare’/ ’ day of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Irrigation Lift’.” D em an d No. 22—Medical and other expenditure relating to the Health D emand No. 25—P ublic W o r k s and Family Planning Department MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: “That a sum not exceeding “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 5,07,92,000 be granted to the Rs. 2.77,67,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the jState of Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the charges which Orissz, to defray the charges which will come in course of payment will come in course of payment during the year ending the" 31st during the year ' ending the 31st day of March, 1974, in respect of daj of March, 1974, in respect of ♦Public Works’.” ‘Medical and other expenditure relating to the Health .and Family D e MTa n d No. 26—S t a t e L e g is l a t u r e Planning Department’.” MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion snored “That a sum not exceeding D e m a n d No. 23—P ublic H ealth Rs 7,20,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the MR CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: Consolidated Fund of the State of “That a sum not exceeding Orissa, to defray the charges which Rs 2,49,29,000 be granted to the will come m course of payment President on account, out of the during the year ending the 31st Consolidated Fund of the State of day of March, 1974, in respect of Orissa, to defray the charges which ‘State Legislature’.” will come m course of payment during the year ending the 31st D e m a n d No 27—P ublic W o rk s, C o m ­ day of March, 1974, m respect of m o n E stablishment ‘Public Health’.” MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: D e m a n d No 24—I rrigation MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 1,19,51,000 be granted to the “That' a sum not exceeding President on account, out of the Rs. 5,01,65,000 be granted to the Consolidated Fund of the State of President on account, out of the Orissa, to defray the charges which Consolidated Fund of the State of will come in course of payment Orissa, to defray the charges which during the year ending the 31st will come in course of payment day 01 March, 1974, in respect of during the year ending the 31st' ‘Public Works, Common Establish­ day of March, 1974, in respect of ment’.” ‘Irrigation’.’’ D em an d No. 28—E lectricity D emand No. 24A—L if t Irriga tio n S ch em es MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: “That a sum not exceeding “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 36,26,000 be granted to the Rs. 68,31.000 be granted to the President on account, out of the President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the charges which Orissa, to defray the charges which 309 Statutory Resolution CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) Orissa Budget & 310 D.G. (On Account) etc. Orissa, to defray the charges which President on account, out of the will come in course of payment Consolidated Fund of the State of during the year ending the 31st day Orissia, to defray the charges which of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Jails'/’ will come in course of payment during the year ending the 31st day D e m a n d N o . 3— P olice of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Com­ munity Development Projects, etc’.” MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved:

“That a sum not exceeding Demand No. 6—Expenditure relating Rs. 3,25,79,000 be granted to the to the Political and Services President on account, out of the Department Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the charges which MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: will come in course of payment t during the year ending the 31st day "That a sum «iot Exceeding of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Po­ Rs 17,49,000 be granted to the lice’/ ’ President on account, out the D e m a n d No. 4r—Ex p en diture r e l a t i n o Consolidated Fund of the State of to the P l a n n in g * and C oordination Orissa, to defray the charges which D epa r tm e n t will come in course of payment during the year ending the .‘Jlstciav MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: of March, 1974, in respect of “That a sum not exceeding ‘Expenditure relating to the Politi­ Rs. 16,77,000 be granted to the cal and Services Department’/ ’ President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of Demand No. 6A—Expenditure relat­ Orissa, to defray the charges which ing to the Political and Services will come in course of payment (RVD.) Department during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1974, in respect of MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: ‘Expenditure relating to the Plann­ ing and Coordination Department’/ ’ “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 64,000 be granted to the D e m a n d N q . 4A — E xpenditure relat­ President on account, out of the in g to the R ural D evelopm en t Consolidated Fund of the State of D epa r tm e n t Orissa, to defray the charges which will come in course of payment MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: during the year ending the 31st day "That a sum not exceeding of March, 1974, in respect of Rs. 2,17,30,000 be granted to the ‘Expenditure relating to the Political President on account, out of the and Services (R.V.D.) Department’.” Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the charges which Demand No. 7—Cultural A ffairs will come in course of payment during the year pending the 31st MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: day of March, 1974, in respect of *Expenditure relating to the Rural “That *a sum not exceeding Development Department’.” Rs. 9,20,000 be granted to the t *.■' •, i h , President on account out of the D e m a n d N o . 5—C o m m u n it y D evelop­ Consolidated Fund of the State of m e n t P rojects, etc. Orissa, to defray the charges which will come in course of payment MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: during the year ending the 31st day ‘That a sum not exceeding of March 1974, in respect of Rs. 4,52,76,000 be granted to the ‘Cultural Affairs’.” 3 i5 Statutory Resolution MARCH 22, 1973 Orissa Budget, & D.G. 316 (On Account) etc. during the year ending the 31st will come in course of p^ijflneat- day of March, 1974, in respect of during the year ending Yhe 31st’ Tribal and Rural Welfare’.” day of’ March, 1974, in, respect of ‘Irrigation Lift'.” Demand No. 22—Medical and other expenditure relating to the Health D e m a n d No. i5—Public Works and Family Planning Department MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: “That a sum not exceeding “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 5,07,92,000 be granted to the Rs. 2.77,67,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the JState of Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the charges which Orisss, to defray the charges which will come in course of payment will come in 'course of payment during the year ending the' 31st diumg the year ending the 31st day of March, 1974, in respect of day of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Public Works'.” 'Medical and other expenditure i elating to the Health .and Family D e m a n d No. 26—State Legislature P lan n in g Department’.” MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion tt0v«*£ “That a pum not exceeding D e m a n d No. 23—P u b l ic H e a l t h Rs 7,20,000 bo granted to the MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: President or account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of "Thai a 1 uni not exceeding Orisso tn defray the charges which Rs. 2,49,2f ,000 be granted to the will come in coursc* of payment Piesidcnt on account, out of the during the year ending the 31st Consolidated Fund of the Stain of day of March, 1974, in respect of Orissa, to defray the charges which ‘State Legislature’.” will come in course of payment during the yiur ending the 31st D e m a n d N o . 27—P u u l ic W o r k s , C o m ­ day of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Public Health’.” m o n E stahlishment

D e m a n d N o. 24—I krigation MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: MR. CHAIRMAin : Motion m o v e d : “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 1,19,51,000 be granted to tlie *‘That' a sum not exceeding President on account, out of the Rs 5,01,65,000 be granted to the Consolidated Fund of the State of President on account, out of the Orissa, to defray the charges which Consolidated Fund of the Stale of will come in course of payment Orissa, to defray the charges which during the year ending the 31st will come in course of payment day 01 March, 1974, in respect of during the year ending the 31st’ ‘Public Works, Common Establish­ day of March, 1974, in respect of ment’.” ‘Irrigation’.” D em an d No 28—E lectricity Demand No. 24A—Lift Irrigation S ch em es MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: ME. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: “That a sunA not exceeding “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 36,26,000 be granted to the Rs. 68,31,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the charges which Orissa, to defray the charges which 317 Statutory Resolution, CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) Orissa Budget & 318 D .G . (on Account) etc. will come in course of payment D e m a n d No. 33—C o- operation and during the year ending the 31st' M arketing day of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Electricity Schemes’.” MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: “That’ a sum not exceeding D e m a n d N o . 29—T a x e s on V ehicles R . 65,42,000 b„ granted to the MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of “That a sum not exceeding Orissa, to defray the charges which Rs. 9,57,000 be granted to the will come in course of payment President on account, out of the during the year ending the 31st Consolidated Fund of the State of day of March, 1974, in respect of Orissa, to defray the charges which ‘Co-operation and Marketing’.” will come in course of payment during the year ending the 31st' D e m a n d No. 34—E xpenditure relatino day of March, 1974, in respect of to the U rban D evelopm en t ‘Taxes on Vehicles’,” D e pa r tm e n t D e m a n d N o 30— T ran sport S ch em es MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: “That a sum not exceeding “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 2,21,56,000 be granted to the Rs. 1,42.19,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the charges which Oviss:*, to defray the charges which will come in course of payment Wxll come in course of payment during the year ending the 31st' durn. the year ending the 31st day of March, 1974, in respect of duv of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Expenditure relating to the Urban ‘Transport Schemes’.” Development Department’.” Demand No. 35—A nimal Husbandry D e m a n d No. 31— F o r e s t MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: MP. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: “That a sum not exceeding “That’ a sum not exceeding Rs. 1,17,44,000 be granted to the Rs. 2,12,19,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the charges which Orissa, to defray the charges which will come in course of payment will come in course of payment during the year ending the 31st during the year ending the 31st day 6f March, 1974, in respect of day of -March, 1974. in respect of ‘Animal Husbandry’." ‘Forest’.” D e m a n d No. 36—P ublic R fxation s D em an d No. 32—Fisheries and T o u r ism MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: “That a sum not exceeding “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 43,76,000 be granted to the Rs. 17,23,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the charges which Orissa, to defray the charges which will come in course of payment will come in course of payment during the year ending the 31st during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1974, in respect of day of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Fisheries’." *Public Relations and Tourism'.” 3983 US—11. 319 Statutory Resolution MARCH 28, 1978 Orissa Budget, & D. G. 320 (On Account) etc. D em an d N o. 37—Agriculture Demand No. 42—Compensation for A B ou T xoN o f Z a m z n d a r i S y s t e m , e t c . MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: "That a sum not exceeding “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 3,06,02,000 be granted to the Rs. 28,08,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State oft Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the charges which Orissa, to defray the charges will come in course of payment which will come in course of pay during the year ending the 31st ment during the year ending the day of March, 1974, in respect of 31st day of March, 1974, in respect ‘Agriculture’.” of 'Compensation for abolition of Zamindari System, etc’.” D e m a n d No. 38—S u p p l y D epa r tm e n t D e m a n d N o 43—M ultipurpose R iver, Irrigation and E lectricity S ch em es MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: “Thai a sum not exceeding “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 28,54,000 be granted to the Rs 10,33,71,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the P'evident on accovnt, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the charges which Orissa, *0 defray the charges will come in course of payment which will come in course of pay­ during the year ending the 31st* ment during the year ending the day of March, 1974, in respect of 31st day of March, 1974, in respect ‘Supply Department’.” of ‘Multipurpose River, Irrigation and Electricity Schemes’.” D e m a n d N o . 39—P orts D e m a n d No 43A—C a p it a l E x p e n d i­ MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: ture relating to L if t Irrigation

“That a sum not exceeding MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: Rs. 1,00,000 be granted to the “ That a sum not exceeding President on account, out of the Rs 16,33,000 be granted to the Consolidated Fund of the State of President on account, out of the Orissa, to defray the charges Consolidated Fund of the State of which will come in course of pay­ Orissa, to defray the charges which ment during the year ending the will come in course of payment 31st day of March, 1974, in respect during the year ending the 31st of ‘Ports’.” day of March, 1974, in respect of ‘C apital Expenditure relating to

D e m a n d No. 41—L o an s to L ocal Lift Irrigation’.” F unds, G o v e r n m e n t S ervants etc D e m a n d N o . 44—A gricultural I m ­ pro ve m en t Aim R esearch MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: “That a sum not exceeding “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 41,00,000 be granted to the Rs. 1,58,95,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the charges which Orissa, to defray the charges which will come in course of payment will come in course of payment during the year ending the 31st during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1874, in respect of day of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Loans to Local Funds, Government ‘Agricultural Improvement and Re­ Servants etc’.” search.” j2 X Statutory Resolution, CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) Orissa Budget & 322 D.G. (on Account) etc.

D e m a n d N o . 45—G o v e r n m e n t T rad­ Orissa, to defray the charges which in g S ch em es will come in course of payment during the year ending the 31st MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: day of March, 1974, in respect of “That a sum not exceeding ‘Capital Outlay on Industrial Deve­ Rs. 2,33,33,000 be granted to tfee lopment’.” President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the charges which D e m a n d No. 49—H ir a k u d D a m will cornu in course of payment P roject during the year ending the 31st MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: day of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Government Trading Schemes’.” “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 2,00,000 be granted to the D e m a n d N o . 46—R oad and W ater President on accou n t, out of the T ransport S ch em es Consolidated Fund of the State of MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: Orissa, to defray the charges which will come in course of payment “That1 a sum not exceeding during the year ending the 31st Rs. 10,23,000 be granted to the day of March, 1974, in respect of President on account, out of the ‘Hirakud Dam Project’.” Consolidated Fund of the* State of Orissa, to defray the charges which will come in course of payment D e m a n d No. 50—C a p it a l O u tla y on during the year ending the 31st P orts day of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Road and Water Transport MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: Schemes’.” “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 10,67,000 be granted to the D em an d No. 47—C a p it a l E xpenditure President on account, out of the RELATING TO PUBLIC HfcALTH AND Consolidated Fund of the State of U rban D evelo pm en t D epa r tm e n t Orissa, to defray the charges which MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: will come in course of payment during the year ending the 31st “That a sum not exceeding day of March, 1974, in respect of Rs. 80,92,000 be granted to the ‘Capital Outlay on Ports'*” President on account, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the charges which D e m a n d No. 51—C a p it a l E xpenditure will come in course of payment RELATING TO LABOUR, EMPLOYMENT during the year ending the 3Is1 and H o u sin g D epartm ent day of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Capital Expenditure relating to MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: Public Health and Urban Develop­ ment Department'.” “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 27,00,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the Demand No . 48— Capital O u tlay on Consolidated Fund of the State of I n d u strial D evelo pm en t Orissa, to defray the charges which MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: will come in course of payment 'during the year ending the 31st “That a sum not exceeding day of March, 1974, in respect of Rs. 44,52,000 be granted to the Capital Expenditure relating to President on account, out of the Labour, Employment and Housing Consolidated Fund of the State of Department’.” 323 Statutory Resolution MARCH 22, 1973 Orissa Budget, & D. G. 324 (On Account) etc.

D e m a n d No 52—C a p it a l E x p e n d i­ Orissa, to defray the charges which ture relatin g to the Educaiion will come m course of payment D epartm ent during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1974, in respect «t MR CHAIRMAN Motion moved: ‘Share Capital contribution and loans “That a sum not exceeding to Co-operative Organisations’ ” Rs 16,61,000 be granted to the President on account, out of the Demand No 56—Capital Expenditure' Consolidated Pund of the State of RELATING TO RURAL DEVELOPMENT Orissa, to defray the charges which Department will come m course of payment during the ycai ending the 31st MR CHAIRMAN- Motion moved: dav of March, 1974, in respect of “That a sum not exceeding ‘Capital Expenditure 1 elating to the Rs 99,80,000 be granted to the Educ ation Depa* tment’.” President on account out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of D fm a n d No 53—Capital Expendi­ Oiissa to defray the charges which ture relating 10 Home Department will come in corn so of payment MR CHAIRMAN Motion moved dui mg the year ending the 31st dis of March 1974, m respect of “Th it a sum not exceeding ‘Expendituic relating to tht Rnral Rs 1,6(> 000 be gi anted to the Development Depai tment’ ” P ecident on at fount out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of D fmand N o 57—C apital E xpenditure Oi’"s 1 to defray the charges which iu ia t in g to A n im a l H usbandry will comp m course of payment D e pa r tm e n t the 3 ear ending the 31st dav of Maich 1974, in lesDect of MR CHAIRMAN Motion moved ‘Capital Ei.penditui e relating to Home Department’ ” ‘ That a sum not exceeding Rs 2 53,000 be granted to the President on account, out ol the D fm a n d No 54—Capital Outlay o n F o r e s ts Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa to defray the charges which MR CHAIRMAN Motion moved will come in course of payment during the year ending the 31st “That a sum not exceeding day of March, 1974, in respect of Rs 3 31,6 i,000 be gt anted to the Capital Expenditure relating to President on account, out of the Animal Husbandry Department’ ” Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the charges which will come in course of payment D em a n d N o 58—C ap it a l E xpenditure dutmg the year ending the 31st relating to the G r a m a P a n c h a y a t day of March, 1974, m respect of D epa rtm en t ‘Capital Outlay on Forests’ ” MR CHAIRMMn Motion moved “That a sum not exceeding D e m a n d No 55—S harp C a pita l con ­ Rs 54,000 be granted to the tribu tio n AND LOANS TO CO-OPERATIVE President on account, out of the O rganisations Consolidated Fund of the Stafe of MR CHAIRMAN- Motion moved Orissa, to defray the charges which will come in couise of payment “That a sum not exceeding during the year ending the 31st Rs 89,13 000 be granted to the day of March, 1974, m respect of President on account, out of the ‘Capital Expenditure relating to the Consolidated Fund of the State of ‘Grama Panchayat Department’ ” 325 Statutory Resolution, CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) Orissa Budget & 326 D.G. (on Account) etc. Demand No. 60—Capital Outlay on to the President out of the Consoli­ P ublic W orks dated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the charges which MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: will come m course of payment “That a sum not exceeding during the year ending the 31st Rs. 2,42,05,000 be granted to the day oi March, 1973, in respect of President on account, out of the ‘E'ections ami other Kxpenditurc Consolidated, Fund of the Slate ^f j elating to the Home Department’.” Orissa, to defray the charges which will come in course of payment during the year ending the 31st D emand No 2— J aii p day of March, 1974, in respect of MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: ■Capital Outlay on Public Works’.” “That a Supplementary sum not D fmand N o. 61— C apital E xpenditure exceeding Rs. 17,34,200 be granted KEIATING TO THE MINING AND GEOLO­ to the President out of the Consoli­ GY D e pa rtm en t dated Fund of the State of MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: Orissa, to defray the charges which will come in course of payment “That a sum not exceeding during the year ending the 31st Rs. 18,33,000 be granted to the day of March, 1973, in respect of President ov account, out of the ‘Jails’." Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the chargcs which will eomt* in course of payment D emand No. 3—P olice during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1974, in respect of MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: ‘Capital Expenditure relating to the Mining and Geology Depart­ “That a Supplementary sum not ment’.” exceeding Rs. 30,94,500 be granted to the President out of the Consoli­ D emand No. 62—Capital Expenditure dated Fund of the State of relating to T ribal and R ural W el­ Orissa, to defray the charges which fare D epartm en t will eome in course of payment during the year ending the 31st MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: day of March, 1973, in respect of “That a sum not exceeding ‘Police’.” Rs. 67,000 be granted to the President on account out of the Consolidated, Fund of the State D emand No. 4— Expenditure relating Orissa, to defray the charges which to the P lan n in g and C o- ordination will come in course of payment D epartm ent during the year ending the 31st MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: day of March, 1974, in respect of ‘Capital Expenditure relating to Tribal and Rural Welfare Depart­ “That a Supplementary sum not ment*.” exceeding Rs 100 be granted to the President out of the Consoli­ dated Fund of the State of Demand No. 1—Elections and other Orissa, to defray the charges which Expenditure rEiating to the Home will come in course of payment Department during the year ending the 31st MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: day of March, 1973, in respect of ‘Expenditure relating to the Plan­ “That a Supplementary sum not ning and Co-ordination Depart­ exceeding Rs. 3,92,500 be granted ment'.” a27 Statutory Resolution MARCH 22, 197a Orissa Budget, & D. G. 328* (Ob Account) etc.

D emand No . 4-A —*Expenditure relat­ will come in course of payment in g t o the R u r a l D evelo pm en t during the year ending the 31st D e pa r tm e n t day of March, 1973, in respect of ‘Cultural Affairs’.” MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved:

“That a Supplementary sum not D e m a n d No. 9—M in iste r s, C iv il exceeding Rs. 2,11,00,000 be granted S ecretariat and other E xpenditure to the President out of the Consoli­ relating to the F in a n c e D e p a r t m e n t dated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the charges which MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: will come in course of payment during the year ending the 31st “That a Supplementary sum not day of March, 1973, in respect of exceeding Rs. 16,79,800 be granted ‘Expenditure relating to the Rural to the President out of the Con­ Development Department’.” solidated Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray the charges which will come m course of payment during D em and No. 5—Community Develop­ the year ending the 31st day of ment Project, Department etc. March, 1973 in respect of ‘Ministers, MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: Civil Secretariat and other Expendi­ ture relating to the Finance Depart­ “That a Supplementary sum not ment’.” exceeding Rs. 87,59,700 be granted to the President out of the Consoli­ D e m a n d No. 10—P en sio n s dated Fund of the State of MR CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: Orissa, to defray the charges which will come in course of payment “That a Supplementary sum not during the year ending the 31st exceeding Rs. 100 be granted to day of March, 1973, in respect of the President out of the Consolidat­ ‘Community Development Projects, ed Fund of the State of Orissa, to etc \” defray the charges which will come in course of payment during the D emand N o. 6—E xpenditure relating year ending the 31st day of March, to the P o litic a l and Services I973i in respect of ‘Pensions'.” D e pa r tm e n t MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: D e m a n d N o. 11—E xpenditure relating to the E du cation D e pa r tm e n t “That a Supplementary sum not exceeding Rs. 29,000 be granted MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: to the President out of the Consoli­ “That a Supplementary sum not dated Fund of the State of exceeding Rs. 1,02,81,400 be granted Orissa, to defray the charges which to the President out of the Con­ wfll come in course of payment solidated Fund of the State of during the year ending the 31st Orissa, to defray the charges which day of March, 1973, in respect of will come in rourse of paym ent ‘Expenditure relating to the Politi­ during the year ending the 31st day cal and Services Department’.” of March. 1973. in respect of ‘Ex­ penditure relating to the E ducation D em a n d No. 7—Cultural Affairs Department’.” MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: D emand No. 11-A—Text Book Press “That a Supplementary sum not exceeding Rs. 4,00,000 be granted MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: to the President out of the Consoli­ dated Fund of the S+ate of “That a Supplementary sum not Orissa, to defray the charges which exceeding Rs. 6,06,009 be granted to 329 Andhra Budget, CHAPTHA 1, 1895 (SAKA> D.G. (on Acct.) & 330 D. S. G. the President out of the Consolidat­ Orissa, to defray the charges which ed Fund of the State of Orissa, to will come in course of payment defray the charges which will come during the year ending the 31st in course of payment during the day of March, 3973, in respect of year ending the 31st day of March, ‘District Administration and other 1973, in respect of ‘Text Book Expenditure relating to the Revenue Press’.” Department’.”

D e m a n d No. 17—Expenditure relating D e m a n d No. 13—L and R evenue to the I ndustries D epa r tm e n t MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: MR CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: “That a Supplementary sum not "That a Supplementary sum not exceeding Rs. 16,400 be granted to exceeding Rs. 54,39,700 be granted the President out of the Consolidat­ to the President out of the Con­ ed Fund of the State of Orissa, to solidated Fund of the State of defray the charges which will come Onssa, to defray the charges which m course of payment during the will come in course of payment year ending the 31st day of March, during the year ending the 31st day 1973, in respect of *Land Revenue'." of March, 1973, in respect of ‘Ex­ penditure relating to the Industries Dfmand No 14—Excise Department’.” MR. CHAIRMAN* Motion moved: D e m a n d No. 17-A—M in e s MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: “That a Supplementary sum not exceeding Rs 2,92,500 be granted “That a Supplementary sum not to the President out of the Con­ exceeding Rs. 100 be granted to the solidated Fund of the State of Orissa, President out of the Consolidated to defray Che charges which will Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray come m course of payment during the charges which Will come in the year ending the 31st day of course of payment during the year March, 1973, in respect of ‘Excise’ ” ending the 31st day of March, 1873, in respect of ‘Mine’s’.” D e m a n d N o . 15—R egistration D e m a n d N o . 18—C iv il an d S essio n s MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: C ourts and other E xp enditu re relat­ in g to the L a w D epa r tm e n t “That a Supplementary sum not MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: exceeding Rs. 37,900 be granted to the President out of the Con­ “That a Supplementary sum not solidated Fund of the State of exceeding Rs. 1,12,080 be granted to Orissa, to defray the charges which the President out of the Consolidated will come in course of payment Fund of the State of Orissa, to defray during the year ending the 31st the charges which will come in day of March, 1973, in respect of course of payment during the yeat ‘Registration’.” ending the 81st day of March, 19*?$, in respect of ‘Civil and Sessions D e m a n d N o 16—D istr ic t A d m in is ­ Courts «nd other Expenditure relat­ tra tio n AND OTHER EXPENDITURE ing to the Law Department*.” RELATING TO THE REVENUE DEPARTMENT D e m a n d N o 19—G o v e r n m e n t P ress* MR. CHARIMAN: Motion moved: an d other E xpenditure relatin g to th* C o m m e r c e D k p a im m k n t “That a Supplementary sum not exceeding Rs. be granted' MRl CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: to the President ottt o f th t G*m- “That a Supplementary sum not solidated BHlnd' Of the Stem 4* eXeaMKng Rfc.

the President out of the Consolidat­ to the President out of the Con­ ed Fund of the State of Orissa to solidated Fund of the State of defray the charges which will come Orissa to defray the charges which in course of payment during the will come in course of payment year ending the 31st day of March, during the year ending the 31st day 1973, in respect of ‘Government of March, 1973, in respect of Press and other Expenditure re­ ‘Public Health’.” lating to the Commerce Depart­ ment’." D emand N o. I r riga tio n Demand No. 20—Labour, Employ­ 24— ment and Housing MR CHAIRMAN- Motion moved- MR CHAIRMAN- Motion moved “That a Supplementary sum not “That a Supplementary sum not exceeding Rs 95,000 be granted to exceeding Rs. 1,60,10,200 be granted the President out of the Consolidat­ to the Prcpident out of the Consoli­ ed Fund of the State of Orissa to dated Fund of the State of Orissa defray the charges which will come to defray the charges which will in course of payment during the come in course of payment during year ending the 31st day of March, the year ending the 31st day of 1973, m respect of *Labour, Employ­ March, 1973. in respect of ‘Irriga­ ment and Housing’ ” tion’ ”

Demand No. 21—Tribal and Rurai D f m \n d No 24-A— L i f t I r r i g a t i o n Welfare MR. CHAIRMAN Motion moved MR CHAIRMAN Motion moved “That a Supplementary sum not exceeding Rs. 7,05,300 be granted to “That a Supplementary sum not the President out of the Consolidat­ exceeding Rs 30,37,200 be granted to ed Fund of the State of Orissa to the President out of the Consolidat­ defray the charges which will come ed Fund of the State of Orissa, to in course of payment during the defray the charges which will come year ending the 31st day of March, in course of payment during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1973, in respect of Tribal and 1973, m respect of ‘Lift lrugalion’ ” Welfare*."

Demand No 22—Medical and other D emand N o 25—P ublic W o r k s . Expenditure relating to the Health and F amily Planning Department MR. CHAIRMAN* Motion moved MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: “That a Supplementary sum not “That a Supplementary sum not exceeding tRs 1,24,26,100 be granted exceeding Rs. 13,73,800 be granted to the President out of the Consoli­ to the President out of the Con­ dated Fund of the State of Orissa solidated Fund of the State of to defray the charges which will Orissa to defray the charges which come in course of pa£S55nt during will come in course of payment the year ending the 31st day of during the year ending the 31st day March, 1973, in respect of ‘Public of March, 1973, in respect of Works’.” ‘Medical and other Expenditure D emand No. 26—S tate L eg islatur e . relating to the Health aPd Family Planning Department’.0 MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: D emand N o . 23— P ublic H ealth “That a Supplementary sum not MR CHAIRMAN* Motion moved: exceeding Rs. 2,00,000 be granted to “That a Supplementary sum not the President out of the Consolidat­ exceeding Rs. 47,68,000 be granted ed Fund of the State of Orissa to aa* Andhra Budget, CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) D.G. (on Acct.) & 3 D. 5. G. ^defray the charges which will come defray the charges which will come in course of payment during the year in course of payment during the ending the 31st day of March, 1973, year ending the 31st day of March, xn respect of ‘State Legislature’ " 19 73, in respect of ‘Transport Schemes’.*’

D emand No. 27—Public Works, Com­ Demand No. 31—Forest. mon Establishment MR. CHAIRMAN Moti^ moved: MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved. "That a Supplementary sum not exceeding Rs. 52,00,400 be granted “That a Supplementary sum not to the President out of the Consoli­ exceeding Rs. 5,50,100 be granted to dated Fund of the State of Orissa to the President out of the Consolidated dejray the charges which will come Fund of the State of Orissa to detray in course of payment during the year the charges which will come in ending the 31st day of March, 1973, course of payment during the year m respect of ‘Forest’.” ending the 31st day of March. 1973, in respect of ‘Public Works, Common Dimaivd No. 3 2 —Fisheries. Establishment MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: Demand No. 28—Electricity Schemes. “That a Supplementary sum not exceeding Rs. 300 be granted to tne MH. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: President out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa to defray “That a Supplementary sum wot the charges which will come in exceeding Rs. 31,79,400 be granted to course of payment during the year the President out of the Consolidated ending the 31st day of MarCh, 1973, Fund of the State of Orissa to defray in respect of ‘Fisheries’.” the charges which Will come in course of payment during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1973, Demanj» No. 33—'Co-operation and in respect of ‘FJoetricily Schemes’.” Marketing. MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion iroved: Demand N o . 2 9 — Taxes on Vehicles. ‘That a Supplementary sum not MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: exceeding Rs. 15,71.500 be granted to the President out of the Consolidat­ “That a Supplementary sum not ed Fund of the State of Orissa to exceeding Rs. 16,800 be granted to defray the charges which will come the President out of the Consolidat­ m course of payment during the year ed Fund of the State of Orissa to ending the 31st day of March. 1973, defray the charges which will come in respect of ‘Co-operation anti Mar­ in course of payment during the keting’/' year ending the 31st day of March, 1973, in respect of ‘Taxes on Demand No. 34—Expenditure relating Vehicles’/ ’ to the Urban Development Department. D emand N o . 30— T ran sport Schemes. MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: “That a Supplementary sum not “That a Supplementary sum not exceeding Rs. 96,08,200 be granted to exceeding Rs. 21,19,700 be granted the President out of the Consolidat­ to the President out of the Consoli­ ed Fund of the State of Orissa to dated Fund of the State of Orissa to defray the charges which will come 335 Andhra Budget, MARCH 22, 1973 D. G. (on Acct.) & D.S.G. 336

in course of payment during the year year ending the 51st day of March, ending the 31st day of March, 1973, 1973, iri respect of ‘Loans to Local m respect of ‘Expenditure relating Funds, Government Servants, etc’.” to the Urban Development Depart­ ment’.” D emand N o. 42—C ompensation tor ABOLITION OF Z aMINDARI SYSTEM and other Expenditure relating to Demand No. 35—A nimal Husbandry. the R evenue D epa rtm en t. ME. CHAIRMAN- Motion moved: MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: “That a Supplementary sum not “That a Supplementary sum not exceeding Rs 3,00,900 be granted exceeding Rs. 20,00,000 be j,n.nted to the President out ot the Consoli­ to the President out of the Consoli­ dated Fund of the State of Onss*t dated Fund of the State of Onssa to defray the charges which will to defray the charges which will come in course of payment during come m course of payment the year ending the 31st day of during the year endmg the :il st day March, 1973, in respect of ‘Animal of March, 1973, m respect of ‘Com­ Husbandry’.” pensation for abolition of Zamindari System and other Expenditure relat­ D emand No. 37—A gricu ltu re . ing to the Revenue Department’."

D emand No 43—M ultipurpose R iv e r , MR. CHAIRMAN- Motion moved: Irrig a tio n and E lec tric ity S chem es. “That a Supplementary sum not exceeding Rs. 1,900 be granted to the MR. CHAIRMAN; Motion moved: President out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of Orissa to “That a Supplementary sum not defray the charges which will come exceeding Rs. 1,0(3,15,500 be grantea in course of payment during the year to the President out of the Consoli­ endmg th 31st day of March, 1973, dated Fund of the State of Orissa to m respect of ‘Agriculture’.’ defray the charges which will come in course of payment during the year Demand No. 38—Supply Department. ending the 31st day of March, 1973, in respect of ‘Multipurpose River, MR. CHAIRMAN; Motion moved: Irrigation and Electricity Schemes’."

"That a Supplementary sum not D emand N o. 43A—C apital. Expendi­ exceeding Rs. 100 be granted to the ture relating to L if t I r r ig a t io n . President out of the Consolidated MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: Fund of the State of Orissa to defray “That a Supplementary sum not the charges which will come in exceeding Rs. 33,00,000 be granted course of payment during the year to the President out of the Consoli­ ending the 31st day of March, 1973, dated Fund of the State of Orissa in respect of ‘Supply Department’.” to defray the charges which will come in course of payment during Demand No. 41—Loans to Local the year ending the 31st day at Funds, Government Servants, March, 1973, in respect of 'Capital ETC. Expenditure relating to Lift Irri­ MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: gation'.” “That a Supplementary sum not D emand N o . 44—A gricultural Im ­ exceeding Rs. 8,13,20,09)0 be granted pro v e m e n t and R esearch. to the President out of the Consoli­ MR. CHAIRMAN; Motion moved: dated Fund of the State of Orissa to defray the charges which will come “Tfcat a Supplementary sum not in course of payment during the exceeding Rs. 2,27.79,300 be granted 337 Andhra Budget, CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) D.G. (on Acct.) & 338 D. S. G. to the President out of the Consoli­ in course of payment during the dated Fund of the State of Orissa year ending the 31st day of March, to defray the charges which will 1973, in respect of ‘Capital Outlay come in course of payment during on Industrial Development’ the year ending the 31st day of Demand No. 54—Capital Outlay on March, 1973, in respect of ‘Agricul­ Forests tural Improvement and Research’.” “That ai Supplementary sum not Demand No. 45— Government Trad­ exceeding Rs. 1,38,60,600 be ^fi'nted ing Schemes to the President out of the Consoli­ MR. CHAIRMAN; Motion moved: dated Fund of the States of Orissa "That a Supplementary sum not to defray the charges which will exceeding Rs 13.00,50,000 be grant­ come in course of payment during ed to the President out of the Con­ the year ending the 3lst day of solidated Fund of the State of March, 1973, in respect of ‘Capital Orissa to defray the charges which Outlay in Forests'.” will come in course of payment Demand No. 55—S h a r e Capital C on­ during the year ending the 31st day tribution and Loans to Co-opera­ of March, 1973, m respect of ‘Gov­ tive Organisations ernment Trading Schemes’.” MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: Demand No. 46—Road and Water “That a Supplementary sum n ot Transport Schemes exceeding Rs. 1,44,50,800 be grantert “That a Supplementary sum not to the President out of the C onsoli­ exceeding jRs. 41,600 be granted to dated Fund of the State of Orissa ta the President out of the Consoli­ defray the charges which will com e dated Fund of the State of Orissa in course of payment during the year to defray the charges which will ending the 31 «t dsv of March, 1973, come in course of payment during in respect of ‘Share Capital Contri­ the year ending the 31st day of bution and Loans to Cooperative March, 1973, in respect of ‘Road Organisations’.” and Water Transport Schemes’.” Demand No. 57—Capital Expenditure RELATING TO ANIMAL HUSBANDRY Demand No. 47— C&pitax. Expendi­ dry Department. ture relating to Public Health “That a Supplementary sum not and Urban Development Depart­ exceeding Rs. 1,50,200 be granted to* ment. the President out of the Consolida­ MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: ted Fund of the State of Orissa to defray the charges which will “That a Supplementary sum not come in course of payment during exceeding Rs. 5,57,600 be granted to the year ending the 31st day of the President out of the Consoli­ March, 1973, In respect of “Capitat dated Fund of the State of Orissa to Expenditure relating to Ammal defray the charges which will come Husbandry Department’.” in rourse of payment during the D emand No. 59—Capital Expenditure year ending the 31st day of March, r elatin g to H ealth D e pa r tm e n t. 1973, in respect of ‘Capital Expendi­ ture relating to Public Health and MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: Urban Development Department'." “That a Supplementary sujp not D emand N o . 48— Cap it a l O u tlay on exceeding Rs. 53,28,000 be granted Industrial D evelo pm en t. to the President out of the Consoli­ dated Fund of the State of Orissa MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: to defray the charges which will “That a Supplementary sum not come in course of payment during exceeding Rs. 1,00,200 be granted to the year ending the 31«t day of the President out of the Conscflidat- March. 1973. in respect of ‘Capital ed Fund of the State of Orissa to Expenditure relating to Health De­ defray the charges which will come partment’.” * 339 Andhra Budget, MARCH 22, 1973 D. G. (on A ctt) & D. S. G. 340

Demand No. 60—Capital, Outlay on MR. CHAIRMAN. We will discuss Puw ir Works. all those items together. There are a number of speakers. I have received a MR CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: request from Mr. P. K. Deo. As he is “That a Supplementary sum not leaving tomorrow, out of turn I al­ exceeding Rs. 36,96,900 be granted low him first to speak. to the President out of the Consoli­ dated Fund of the State of Orissa SHRI DINEN BHATTACH APvYYA to defray the charges which will (Serampore): I do not unde stand come in course of payment during this thing. If any Member leaves to­ the year ending the 31st day of morrow why should the rhanre be March, 1973, in respect of ‘Capital given to him today? If h^ were to Outlay on Public Works’.” leave today. I could understand Of course, I do not obje't if he puMs the DiMANfn N o. 61— C a p i t a i . Expenditure chance to speak, but the procedure RELATING, TO THE MINING & GEO­ that you are adopting is not proper LOGY D fp a r tm e n t MR CHAIRMAN- Motion moved: MR CHAIRMAN* I am glad that the hon Member has no objection to “That a Supplementary sum not his being called first to speak It is exceeding Rs 85,42,000 be granted to quile possible that Mr Deo will not the President out of the Consolidat­ take much time The list of those ed Fund of the State of Orissa to who want to speak is before me and defray the charges which will come thev will be called to

Demand No 62 -C a p i m i Fxffvdtture RriATING TO TfIBAI AND RURAL MR. CHAIRMAN: I also r^membe”- W flfarf D fpartm ent that under such circumstances I was not allowed So, I know what hirvn MR. CHAIRMAN- Motion moved: it Is “That a Supplementary sum not SHRI P. K DEO (Kalahandi) Mr exceeding Rs. 86,000 be granted to Chairman, Sir, U is the sequence of the President out of the Consolidat­ the dramatic political events which ed Fund of the State of Orissa to culminated in the imposition of Pres'- defray the charges which will come dent’s rule under article 356 and it is in course of payment during the year the compulsion of duty wnich forces ending the 31st day of March, 1973, me to speak some unpalatable truth, in respect of ‘Capital Expenditure and I hope it may not be to the liking relating to Tribal and Rural Welfare of my friends opposite. Department’/ ’ It was on the 3rd March, 197 * -mar Item Nos. 16, 17, 18 and 19 will be we call it the Idea of March in India’s taken together. political history—when democracy ana democratic principles and its values SHRI JAGANNATH RAO: My sub­ have been sacrificed on the alter of mission is that as we have got only political expediency and part is one hour and five minutes from now siderations. It has exposed many a let us discuss the proclamation today skeleton in the Congress cupboard. It and the rest tomorrow. has proved to the whole world that 341 Ancftirtt Budget, CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) D.G. (on Acct.) & 342 D. S. G. the President is nothing better than 1962 Lok Sabha e ections and was a ruler-stamp, and the proclamation defeated, called the Congress party has been signed on the dotted line with a strength of only 48 in a House which has been crafted by th® Home cf 140 to form the Government with Ministry. The Gjvernor has a *c as the aid of defectors. The defectors a stooge, and the institution of the were made Ministers inspite of the re­ Governor has been put to utter ififn e commendations of the committee on to strangulate democracy in broad day­ defections and inspite of the unanimous light, because >he Governor cannot recommendations that no defector be impeached and he holds office at should be rewarded to but should seek the pleasure of the President. re-elections. But all these were thrown to the winds. I have brought this fact Sir, we want that Ihc Governor, to the notice of this House as early when he occupies this exalted position, as May, 1972 when these defectors should be proper] y insulted against were brought at the instance of Shri any political pressure. Uma Shankar Dikshit and Shri G. S. Mishra and were kept in the Haryana Thar is why I would like to quote Guest House of infamous Bansi Lai, about the role of Governors from a infamous for Ayarama and Gaya ram. report of a committee of Governors When the reverse process started on issued by the President’s Secretariat the first March, the very same disillu­ in Delhi It says “No Governor would, sioned M.L.A. had come back to the it can be safely asserted, want the parent party; now this is called defec­ State to be brought under the Presi­ tion. When the Governor was ap­ dent s rule except in circumstances proached by the press he says “I un­ which leave him with no alternative’ ’. derstand practical politics” . Immedia­ tely after that Mr. Sankar Dayal Shar­ 17 hrs. ma, President of the Congress comes out with a statement that the While moving article 356 of the only alternative i^ President’s rule It Constitution Dr \mbedkar has given was the same Sankar Dayal Sharma, enough caution and said “it would '.vho as Secretary of the All India never he called into operation and Congress Committee, objected to the that it would remain a dead letter.” imposition of the President’s rule when We see that out ' 3'i cases, in which the Badal Ministry was reduced to proclamation had been issued under a minoritv in Puniab and Congress this article in 28 cases the beneficiary was not called to form Government. hail been the Congress Dartv. Of that He has played the role of Dr. JekvII staff are these Governors made? Either and Mr. Hvde. they are popular ejections at the polls or frustrated politicians rehabilitated on a comfortable cushion of Governorship. Even though they The Governor’s report is nothing but take the oath to preserve, protect and a travasty of truth. If you see, you defen 1 the Constitution and the law, will find that the defectors who join­ there has been a departure in so many ed the Congress party, were never cases. 1 take m*' hnis off to Shri mentioned as defectors at all. He says Ananthasayanam iyen*?r, ^ho when that they jointed the Congress party. he was the Governor of Bihar at a When they come back to their own Farewell address 'aia 'ha’ had he party, they were called defectors. The acted on the advice of the Home Mi­ Budget session was in session. The nistry oi the Go rnm<-rt rf Tndia, he Appropriations Bill was to have been woul* have stay*v there ^or another passed that would have been the pro­ fifteen years. Eigh‘ an v a l*aM month? per forum to test the strength of the ago. Mr. Joginder Sinejh who hac1 to various oarties. The Raj Bhavan draw­ eat the humble pie in the hand'* of ing room is not the proper place to Swatantra candidate in Bahraich in test the strength. 343 Andhra Budget, MARCH i 2, 1973 D.G. (on Acct.) & D.S.G. 344

[Shri P. K. Deo (Kalahandi)]. was meeting for the budget session and when Shri D. P. Mishra was de­ The Hpuse was about to meet at 8 A.M. Half-an-hour before that the As­ feated Shri Govind Narain Singh was called to form the Government. Why sembly was prorogued. There was no Cabinet meeting. If there was a Cabi­ there is this departure? net meeting, the Cabinet Secretary In Manipur, the Assembly is meet­ should have circulated the notice and ing at the instance of the Governor agenda to various Ministers. Here is Shri B. K. Nehru to prove the strength the original D.O. letter written by of the various parties. Why should Shrimati Nandini Satpathy in her there be this departure here? Another handwriting to Shri Pradhan which thing is that in the crucial Rajya Sa- was received at 7.30 A.M. bha election the Opposition has prov­ ed its majority by returning -the So, I would request that this may candidate in a straight contest with be laid on the table oi the House with a thumping majority of 17 votes. In your permission. It contains that the spite of the letter cf the Secretary of meeting would be held at 6.30 A.M. the Orissa Legislative Assembly prov­ but the notice was received at 7.30 ing the strength of 72 of Pragati Party A.M. by Shri Gangadhar Pradhan. I in spite of the Raiya Sabha by-election have already written to the Speaker which had proved the majority support in this regard. As demanded by Shri of the Opposition and in spite of Surendra Mohanty I am placing this physical parade of the M.L.As in front on the idle of the House. cf the Governor, the Governor inten­ tionally avoided counting them. He MR. CHAIRMAN: You have already was instructed not to do so In spite mentioned all these in the House. It is of all this I am very sorry to state all on record. It is, therefore not ne­ that the Governor has tried to build cessary to lay it cn the tabl" of the a case on wrong and fictitious premi­ House. ses. It was said that Shri Biiu Pat- naik applied for the Congress Mem­ I think your time is up. You please bership and he could not bp taken conclude. in. I may tell you that he never SHRI P K. DEO: Sir I am the most applied for admission in the Congress. This should go on record. Cuttack by- affected person. election was won with fan-fare, in MR. CHAIRMAN: Just because this spite of rigginsr, in spite of intimida­ facility has been given you should not tions to voters and in spite of mis­ take long. Only three minutes have use of power and money There was been given to you. a large-scale ghost polling. Shrimati Nandini Satoa^hi came out successful SHR! P. K. DEO: The Governor It was much trumpeted and broad­ never took pains to verify the strength cast from Moscow radio. But alas, of the various parties, Shrimati Nandi­ Shrimati Nandini Satpathi collapsed in ni Satpathi, having lost her 93 days. majority has no constitutional right to give any advice to the Governor MR. CHAIRMAN: I think you are either for prorogation or for dissolu­ misusing the opportunity when I cal­ led your name first. tion of the Assembly. In the case of West Bengal—my CPI friends will SHRI P. K. DEO: Sir, the entire bear me out—when Shri Ajoy Mukher- edifice built on defection collapsed jee was asked to call the Assembly like a house of cards and the chapter to prc>ve his strength, Shri Dharma of political prostitution came to a Vira was accused by the same C.P.I. close—the chapter of 8-1/2 months’ friends that he had not acted rightly misrule has come to an end which has and Shift Mukherjee was ultimately brousrht a sign of relief to all Oriyas dismissed. In the identical circum­ including the nine M.Ps of Congress stances in M.P., when the Assembly Who have given in writing that they 345 Andhra Budget, CHAITRA 1, 189S (SAKA) D.G. (on Atct.) & 045 D. S. G. dc not stand by Shrimati Nandini a popular and constitutional govern­ Satpathi. ment. tnere. We want early elections. We want that the electoral rolls should ME. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Deo, you be revised. All persons about 18 years should conclude now. I shall give you should be enrolled as voters and al­ •one more minute. Then you will sit lowed to exercise their franchise. The down. people of this country and posterity will not spare you, Gentlemen! You SHRI B. V. NAIK ^Kanara): Mr. will be condemned as guilty men for Chairman, I rise on a point of order. all time to come. The hen. Member used a reprehensible word—I do not know whether it is SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA parliamentary. He has used the words (Seram pore): Sir, In this House we ‘political prostitution’. Prime facie it have several times brought it to looks so obscence that this should be the notice of the hon. Members of expunged. both sides that democracy in our country is in danger. Here is another SHRI P. K. DEO: Sir, I thought example of how the Constitution has never though they will been defrauded and democracy raped. still have the juvenile delinquency to I do not plead for this party or that protect an unprotectable case. party, for this leader or that leader. I am concerned with the Constitu­ Much has been spoken about Mr. tional position. I know your Constitu­ Nilamani Rootray, what a sadist and tion is not a socialist Constitution. vulgar joke was made on the death Still the minimum democratic rights of his wife. The Governor staled that which the people have beer, given because she died, it hastened the pro­ even that you do not want to give cess of disintegration of the Congress when you find it does not suit your Party and her husband joined theUt- interests. That was why Shrimati Nan­ kal Congress. In spite of that he was dini Satpathy was thrust over the made the Deputy Chief Minister. Two head of the Orissa people as a Chief other defectors—Mr. A. Mahanand and Minister, just as Mr. Sidhartha Shan­ Mr. D. Majhi—were made Cabinet Mi­ kar Ray has been thrust on the people nisters. of West Bengal, through a fake and rigged election. This is your tactics of bringing all the provinces under the 1 would like to make these submis­ patronage of the Prime Minister. sions.’ The Government’s report is prevented and parochial I charge the ,SHRI P. K. DEO: Hegemony. Governor wit'i dereliction ot duty. The Governor’s report is not worth SHEI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA: the paper on which it has been writ­ Yes hegemoney. In this House they ten. The only fit place for it is the often talk of non-violence discipline, waste paper basket. The prorogation decorum and parliamentary democra­ and dissolution of the Orissa Assemb­ cy. What have they done in Orissa? ly has no parallel in history. The Under what provision of the Constitu­ only parallel is the dissolution of the tion did they do it? Article 356 savs Long Parliament by Charles I and it that if there is invasion from outside, cost him his head. I demand here the or political upheaval or insecurity con­ hea‘d of Mr. Jatti on a plaster. He ditions, President’s Rule can be im­ should be dismissed and thrown out posed. of the political life of this country. , In Orissa everything happened over­ When the Finance Commission is night. Till the previous day the Chief functioning, when the fifth plan is on Minister did not knew her fate the the anvU and the die of Orissa is next day. It is only whan the election going to be cast for five years, we want to R'ajya Sabha took place the next 347 Statutory Resolution MAftCfi 22, 1973 Orissa Budget & D. G. 348* (On Account) etc. [Shri Dinen Bhattarcharyya] sion? Would it not have been the nor­ day she knew that she had no majo­ mal parliamentary practice to bring the rity. The Governor in his report has, whole matter before the House, discuss unfortunately, referred to the defec­ it and then take a decision? The tors. Who is the greatest defector, the heavens would not have fallen if they architect of all this’ I charge Shrimati had adopted this practice. Yet, they Indira Gandhi that she started th<« did not care to do that, even thcugh practice of defection, and it is with they talk of democracy all the time. defection that she is still ruling Who is that Governor? He is nothing but a stooge sent by the Centre, who will The Orissa Assembly consisted of to the line of Shrimati Indira Gandhi. 140 members. 72 members proclaimed It is this type of persons who die ssnt that they were against the Chief to the States if necessary to rule on Minister’s party Two other members behalf of the Centre I am saying this also declared that they will vote with personal experience of what hap­ against the Chief Minister. In a House pened in West Bengal in 1967, 19970 of 140 members, if 72 members declare and again m 1971 It happened In that they are a group, was it not the West Bengal thrice that the niajority responsibility of the Governor to call party was not called to form the the loader of that party to form a government but President’s Rule was government and then test the maiority imposed or minoritv of tha partv in the House In the case of Orissa, the Governor That practice is not observed when has seat a report What a shameless it does not suit you You have noi iepo't it is* If he had anv respect for done it in Manipur You will hear democracy he should have tested in today or tomorrow that anothei the Assembly which party has sot the defection ha« tak^n placo in Manipur majority instead of basing it on pre­ You have not dissolved the Assemblv sumption That would have been there You have kept it ahve so that the normal thing for him to do, but he your partv in alliance with othet did not do that peihaps because of the may form the Government Why dtf telephone call which he received from you behave in this manner in the his master or mistress that you have caco of Orissa7 to do this or that

SHRI <=URENDRA MOHANTY* “Mistress" 10 noi pu’iiamentarv SHRI K C PANT- There is a Government functioning in Manipur SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA: Who worries whether a word is par­ liamentary or not when there is no SHRT DINEN BHATTACHARYYA- parliamentary democracy at all? But it is a ff*cl that the verv person*- who dilected to the side of the MR. CHAIRMAN He used it in present Chief Minister of Manipur ait the context of ‘•master**. now defecting to the Opposition side SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA: It is an open fact. The Chief Minister resigned her post because she had no majority Then I will not go into details. But jtiq the Governor did not call for the op­ a fact that in the case of Orissa, the position to see whether it can form a Constitution has been violated; the government Apart from that, after parliamentary democracy has been asking Shrimati Nandini Satpathy to .subverted and all norms of parlia­ act as a caretaker government, why mentary procedure have been totallv was that matter not brought before ignored intentionally by the ruling this House, even though it has in ses- party at the Centre 349 Statutory Resolution CHAITRA 1, 1899 (SAKA) Orissa Budget & 350 D.G. (On Account) etc. What should have happened if defend the cause of whom he is sup­ Shrimati Nandini Satpathv had step­ posed to defend. ped down when she lost her majority? It is a parliamentary procedure that MR. CHAIRMAN: It is a matter of when you lose your majority, you opinion, a flight of fantasy on the part come down and you give a chance of the hon. Member that all the to others who can form the Govern­ persons whom they want to mention ment. This was not done there. So, are to be present in the House. I charge thig Government, the Cen­ tral Government, for that. SHRI K. C. PANT: Apart from the very valid reason that you have men­ What are your tactics? You are tioned, there are certain high offices always trying to rehabilitate your in our country, and it is a normal own party members defeated in the convention in the House that, when elections and frustrated in other ways. a reference is made to an occupant of You are placing them as Governors of such a high office, then a language of different States. This is a legacy of docorum is used. That is the normal the past. The British Government practice; it is a very good practice. used t‘o do it. Now you are also adopting the same tactics. What a MR. CHAIRMAN: It is a healthy fantastic amount we have to spend practice. on these Governors? I have read in a paper, in Blitz, that nearly Rs. 4000 SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA: to Rs 5000 are spent daily on these I did not know that t'le Minister Governors, inclusive of all their ex­ would be so allergic to facts. These penses. So, if these stooges are not are facts. I can prove. I have to take there, nothing will happen (Inter­ the name.. ruptions) AN HON MEMBER: Not facts but MR. CHAIRMAN: I would remind fantasies. the hon. Members that in a debate of this type or any other debate, befitting SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA: the prestige of this House, we should My noint is this. They have kept not' use names or make derogatory this provision of the post of Governor remarks against the people or persons intentionally to serve their own pur­ who are not present in the House. pose and not the interest of the people. Therefore, I would request Mr. Dinen The interests of the people are not Bhattacharyya not to do that. You served by the Governors. It has been may not agree But it is an advice found, just as in the case of Orissa, from the Chair which I think every that they are serving the dictates hon. Member should take into consi­ from the Centre. I am astonished deration. how, when the Parliament is in ses­ sion, the President, without referring the matter for the opinion of the SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (DIA­ House, outright decided to impose the MOND HARBOUR) : On a point of President's rule and dissolved the order, Sir. You have made a certain Assembly. I do not find any reason observation just now that about those in this action of the President who who are not present in the House, we holds a very high position in our cannot deal with them or we cannot country and whom we expect to mention their name?* In that case, behave in such a way that there may if you want' the entire country to be not be any occasion for anybody to Present here, the entire bureaucracy bring a slur on him. to be present here, the entire set of People to be present here, then only So, my first accusation against the shall be able to oblige you, not Centre is that they have gone beyond before that. The Minister is there to their limit and they are responsible 3983 LS—12 351 Statutory Resolution MARCH 22, 1973 Orissa Budget, & D.G. 35 2 (On Account) etc. LShn Dinen Bhattacharyya] are holding the majority there and for all this indiscipline and in some you will do whatever you like. Sir, places violent outbursts that we find I do not want to go into detail. throughout the country. Whatever they may say, this ruling Party is This Government has no face now responsible for iA because they do not after this Onssa affair to claim that want to maintain viy Parliamentary they are democrats, to claim that democracy anywhere. Whenever they are for continuing the parlia­ there is a chance of their defeat, they mentary democracy. The danger do this as they did in West Bengal in signal has come before the whole the last elections, 1972, when they country. Here, m this House, we indulged m all sorts of corrupt prac­ emphatically say that what has hap­ tices; they rigged the whole election pened in West Bengal will happen and brought their own men m the tomorrow m Bihar, day after m Government* Again, m Orissa, I Rajasthan and the other day in know what will happen’ Thev will Orissia So; all those people who take time There is no doubt that have any respect for democracy, they people also want revision of the elec- should stand against this undemo­ tora' rolls and delimitation of the con­ cratic one-Party rule of Shrimati stituencies afresh, but it is necessary Tndira Gandhi and see that she is re­ that, at the earliest, the elections are moved at the earliest from this posi­ held and chances are ^iven to the tion wherefrom she is going to be people to elect their own Government the dictator of India At this luncture, at this critical mo­ ment, the Onssa people should decide their own fate Talking of Plan or SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD Budget here, matters little After (Bhagalpur) Trv vour best all, who is looking after the mteiesls of the peoole of Onssa9 It is the Centre, it is the Prims Minister's SHRI JAGANNATH RAO (Chatra- Government, and not the Orissa pur) Sir, I rise to support the people. So, in this case, I will rather statutory resolution which has been demand emphatic a ly that the Gov­ moved ernment should arrange for elections for Orissa Assembly without any fur­ 1 quite understand the feelings of ther delay. the two hon speakers who preceded Regarding the Budget that has been me m questioning the action of the placed here, I and my party will not Governor in dissolving the House and vote for it because they have no recommending President rule But I authority to pass the Orissa Budget cannot appreciate the strong language here, knowing fully well that if they used by them m decrying the Gov­ had not subverted the Parliamentary ernor. Afterall, the Governor is a democracy in this way in Orissa, the constitutional head you may not Orissa people would have decided agree with the decision of the Gover­ what should be the amount that they nor but nevertheless, you should use will spend and for what purpose decent language and the debate should be kept on a high plane. It is not for Shri K. C. Plant or Shri K. R Ganesh to decide from Coming to the resolution, I siay the here in this Parliament. . Governor’s report is quite exhaustive He has dealt with the strength of SHRI K. C. PANT: But it is for each Party and what happened after the Lok Sabha to decide. the elections in 1971 and what hap­ SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA: pened in June 1972 iand what hap­ What is Lok Sabha? Afterall, you pened after the Congress, obtaining Statutory Resolution CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) Orissa Budget & 354 D.G. (On Account) etc. ihe majority, formed the Government was 70 and not as Mr. Patnaik has and what happened in 1973 when claimed that Le has got the support some ML As walked over to the of six others in the Assembly. Mr. Opposition. The Governor is faced Ptatnaik did not bring any letter from with a difficulty. What did the Chief these MLAs to that effect. Mr. Pat­ Minister do? When she found that naik did not say that he will prove she has lost the majority, she advised his majority in the House. He never the Governor.... ( Interruptions) said that. He rushed to Raj Bhavan. that she found that some members There were press correspondents and of her party were going out and that others. What did the Governor do? they might join the opposition. She Hp tried to save democracy. He did took only a constitutional step. As not try to bury it as opposition mem- Chief Minister, she has the preroga­ ocrs tr'ed to make out. What hap­ tive and right to recommend to the pened in Punjab, Sir, in 1970 when Governor to prorogue and dissolve the Badal Ministry fell? Congress the House. She did the correct thing. had majority; congress wanted to The House will (appreciate that when form the Government. But the Gov­ the Chief Minister finds that som e ernor Dr. Pavate did not allow the members of her party are likely to congress to form the Government. He walk over to the other side, what said that there will not be a stable could she have done? She did not do Government'. Stability is one of the anything which violated the consti­ criteria for the functioning of Gov­ tutional propriety. She approached ernment When stability is not there, the Governor iand tendered her re­ the Governor, whoever he may be, is signation and advised him to dissolve iu ly justified in recommending to the the House. But the Governor did President that Constitution has not merely go on the advice of the broken down and that the President Chief Minister. What did he do? should take over the administration of the State. It is not correct to use I*he report clearly mentions the strong language against him. strength o f each party and the mem­ bers who defected to the other side MR. P. K. DEO: said that the Con­ and that Mr. Biju Patnaik of the gress Government in June, 1972 was Pragati Partv went to the Ra} Bhavan formed of defectors. It' is a fact well- with some MLAs The Government known to every one in Orisr* that counted the h^ads and he found that Utkal Congress party passed a resolu­ the requisite number was not there. tion moved by Mr. Neelamani Rout- tai and seconded by a former Minister of Utkal Congress. Mr. Pratap Maha- SHRI SURENDRA MOHANTY- nly, who wanted to dissolve the party How do you say that? Don’t mislead and merge with the congress. That the House. resolution was there. And, there­ fore, their party, as such, wanted to SHRI JAGANNATH RAO: He en­ merge with the congress. And do closed two letters of the MLAs. who you call it defection? Can you say walked over to the Opposition___ this by any stretch of imagination, I (Interruptions) leave it to you. MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Mohanty, So. also, Mr. Ganga Pradhan, a I see your name in the list. So, at Swatantra Minister, along with ten that time you can reply. others, wrote a letter to their leader Mr. R. N. Singh Deo, the then Chief SHRI JAGANNATH RAO: The Minister and President of the party Governor noted that the two MLAs saying that they felt that their in­ were coerced or pressurised to go terests were not safe in tbe hands of over to the other party and they have the Swatantra Party, their policies come back . Therefore, the strength wer.? not conducive to the develop- 355 Statutory Resolution MARCH 22, 1973 Orissa Budget, & D. O. 356 (On Account) etc. LShn Jagannath Rao] Unfortunately there may be the rea­ meiit and progiess -I adivasis and so son lor this became m 1971 the Gov­ tiaey wanted to leave tne party. How ernment budget was framed by tm do you call them defectors? Now witn Opposition who were in power. They these 25 MLAs li you want to torm pei haps never wanted to implement the Government, the Governor is fully me&e policies and on the same line* jusUiied in noi allowing the opposition the Budget was prepared. Now, Uiat party to lorm the Government because Orissa is going to be under Presidents the next day they may walk over. Rule lor more than 6 months we nave That is why the Chief Minister right­ to see that these piogrammes are im­ ly advised the Governor and she (lid plemented. the correct thing m tendering her re­ signation and by this she has set up high democratic principles. Orissa is a State which is entirely About elections, 1 can understand agricultural. The economy is complete­ the ieelings of the opposition that elec­ ly agucultural and the provisions made tions should be held as early as pos­ lor agriculture are very meagre. Mi­ sible. But we are faced one difficulty, nor in igation has been practically ig­ Under Delimitation Act the territorial nored. It is minor irrigaton that wuu constituencies have to be delimited help the marginal and small farmers, and it takes time. Monsoon begins in Adivasis and Harijans and people be­ Onssa m June and continues till end longing to bacward classes who live of September. Where is the time? If m hinterland, are worst affected there delimitation could be done in the When a major irrigation project is to meanwhile, elections could be held be constructed they are evicted. So, in October or November. If it cannot their interests should be taen care of. be done it is likely to be postponed. But I am sorry to find no such at­ It is not for us. It is for the Election tempt has been made. The mam thing Commission to say whether he is in a in Orissa now is to implement the position to do it. land ceiling BilL The Bill was before the Assembly. Some clauses were pas­ About the Budget, Sir, I would like sed. But the Bill could not be com- to say a few words. Mr. P. K. Deo letely passed. Now that Orissa is said not a dog barked when Mrs. Sat- under President's rule, the Bill has to pathy tendered resignation. But I be implemented immediately and has would say not a tear was shed and to be passed by a President’s Act not a dog barked when Governor re­ After the implementation cf the land commended to the President cn the ceiling Act surplus land would be dissolution of the Assembly and the given to the landless people. If the imposition of President’s rule, because land is contiguous the Government people In Orissa felt that the Pragati should see that three or four small party would not be in a position to farmers who would get 2 acres at the form the Government, nor lead them most join and form ccoperatives either to prosperty. for joint farming or for service coo­ About Budget, Sir the budget of the peratives so that they could have the Central Government or the state advantage of getting some financial Government should reflect the social help to purchase bullocks, seeds, ferti­ and economic philosophy of the Gov­ lisers and so on. This is the time ernment of the day. Unfortunately we should encourage joint farming this budget is pedestrian in nature, it These lands given to the landless does not contain any of the socialis­ people should be put under the super­ tic schemes which the Planning Com­ vision of the Block Developmtnt Officer mission has formulated and which had at least for two years so that he could the approval by the State Chief see that these pocr people are given Ministers in National Development necessary tods to cultivate their Council. lands and stand on their legs It is 357 Statutory Resolution CHAITRA I, 1895 (SAKA) Ortisa Budyet & 358 D.G. (On Account) etc. very essential that this should be m v t % s m t ^ft w zz affr | taken care at. p r tm n «rpnr | i 1 am sorry to find that nothing iutb *TFPffa HR* $t *^t ar-T been provided tor the growth ot in­ dustries in the State. The industrial w 3TRT Tfrf^T t fsp ^nHCt activity is at a low ebb and Letters srfasr vtr^ t w n w srr sfr of Intent given to the I.D.C. have not £FT | ^ FS3T ^t % *rk bean converted into licences and no effective steps seem to have been m z *r «m *rW cnrr »hv- taken. mftrer ^ ■’wr* t^t ^ 1 wry In a democracy primary education ^fcr | f% mrim jt is very essential. We must educate the opiif «t>n * *?t r r •rrj' masses otherwise the dumb millions 5T ^ f^ T T | l tft *ft*ft 5f ^*7* *5T w i l l not make democracy Sufficient provision has not been made for the if oiff^f % ir m rrspr ?r^ % ^q- growth cf primary education t o child­ stftt I eft fcrq. *mT ren upto the age of fourteen. That should be done A beginning should ^ fam t i ^ -3^ k have been made in the last year of *Ft ^ftftprt <-<=r % f%rsTcft the Fourth Plan so that in the Fifth % w f t KTWT 5q«Rf aRt I 5Tt Plan there could be spill-over 'cM«t>l ?PT«T ^ ^ lii w f l+ i<. f%tfT Sir, nothing has been provided for the development of rural or tribal £ I 'TT^ % 37P- ^T3T areas. One third of the Members of % ^pb> cr^T ^ f t sn&T ^ sftcFT- the Orissa Assembly consist of tribals fkm t, ^TRT % cf^r f%TTETR The Budget seems to have been pre­ mSTq^T ^ vtf cnaqr I I pared in a hurry and the budget papers do not contain many details If we had the reports on the performance of the Ministries in the previous years, ^ |n %3|vr ^TFfT SF^TT we could have assessed the perform­ ance of the Government and short-fall, f f^ ^ rr ift qfiNPd «ft if any f m T? w p fh r # *flr ** fa* (arro#) f k m n j H ?mt frfft snf^r ^ | if ^T^nr TfrwwaFgrr vFFfhr trfsr^RfT srro«? *jt? cr*rr ^rcpft^^TRtfwfir foSTT*TT«ft PHI* ^ 1 1 ^ftf^r #gt »rf ^ ^TT» TFHr ^ *PT WRT< SPCT* f^TT ^ v3TT% f?Tt£ OTTVT ^ t # 1 t f 'w i , unrrtt ff i n^nrf|r«r sttt 1 fRT^^ %m«fr #i?t ^rf^rftr «tt n T m % Wtrif1 #PrgrPT 3T5IT | 1 ^ %^r 356 %*rft?T 3 *TT$, 1973 *?t Sffft ^ *rf ^sfmurr yr tiyfow r?RT ^cn g- f% ^TRV n?ft Tirsqrn^rrr^fcRTsFt f a m ^ r r muTRr wxz, m r «rn ^ ^ ^pt t o Tmrs^ fe n »tt f m f t n f i ^rRRTcT^Erf f ^ p r t ft» ;??f% m ^tf nft «rr W St finSWt % «r*Rmfr % fv ^nr?r z*r sfrr «rnrr ?rr^r ttftrcr *rrofar % «ftw %5fT ^ *IT ^ffr^ % 359 Statutory Resolution MARCH 22, 1973 Orissa Budget, & D G 360 (On Account) etc [sfr fas] ^ r sf^rr qft * ?fr fw r? r WIT 3nfw %TT t I ?T 5TfTKf 5f?t cTT^ % viTT qrf | *J5qr *Rft 3 3ft srpfT ?t «ft, aft :3 ? i ‘3 $ 5j%?r % yr^errwrx ^?r w tr ^ r ^ frc- t e m *pr ^ % farr o w SRTTT^r cftrm ^tr! apt sf^nr^T f*T5TT t t w f w «rr far fasfg vterrf^r fan% ?*TT^ ^ T t ^t OTTO TCFqRlxft Vt^fe iTT^|Trfw «rT if^raT t^t 1 1 w *^t fa rfo % sft^vrt W T H # sr^T a|ft ftqftr srte qt qi'fore fp g %^fr «fr ^T^^Twrr^r ^>T ?TSi|Tr»T «f>" H I ^ ^ ?=ft% ’t t sft fR T^ Tps^rfgr ^sft % W t % ^w: ^ * t t ftr # f^jR f^nrr t ^ ^ ^rsnR^rr | srpr ?r^t f w r ^rzrr t W elfare fanft gt %r sWt 5sr?to *r§*rer ?rt 1 3TTT JTf I ftj \ m TT^ft «ft^FRft ^ f f t ?RT- #cRrft jftsrnm |i *rfefc gsnr ^ aft q ft fw ^ t, ’CTTf^T f^ q rw m t Sfrt ^HTRT ^ T % I ^r^RT?T T O f[ 'STRTT t f a TT^T- ^t T tta - ft, ^rft^t, ^‘rr^t sffc ^fr^r- TT*r % fiTTT srffenF STt7" 5CSrT- m ft ?nrr affr w < r ^ 3TTcT WT St*pp?ft«ft, h r # 3# gpT gft gfdgra «rr % fa *r cR? t ffa n ^ t eft fsfsr ?ft*ft # ^ # fWr *nrr % ^ W % *ft 5tt ^t»rr spt Tnrfr^r ^ w ^t ^rafa sffar 'Td’ii^'ti ^ ?rc% «t§^^ q f^ fd ^cw ^rir f^r ^ «w«r««r m srraT srejcr facrr srcfa ?ft srrc mr THPftfa sfW^rf^ ^ n ft cfp ft % 3r ^t *re?*f1 *t t o t T^r «tt ^rr ^rr % fw WTfW ^+< fa % ¥T5T^C ^ f^TT ft «ti q^rmt ^ ?PT*fa fqwwrr W I t 1 5 W tTFT *J®T Weft % ^ f%^ri?T T5R- W w m f w I *1% TyR ^7T fsp w SPTRT ^1 «r ^ T ^ t W *p^ | 1 w w ^ t sr*ra% ^cTT ^ 5 T ?Tft ^ t I q ft HifTW | |faTFS*Pn*T #

MR. CHAIRMAN: It is an open With these words, 1 want to speak question to him. on this proclamation.

SHRI SEZHIYAN: I am speaking Mr. Jagannatha Rao has already tomorrow. pointed out that the Utkal Congress people, who came to the Congress MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Giridhar party, have not defected. They dave Gomango: adopted a resolution under the Chair­ manship of Mr. Biju Patnaik, Mr. Nee- SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO (Ko- lamani Routrai and Pratap Mohanty raput): I will speak tomorrow. both proposed and seconded it to merge with the Congress and after SHRIMATI T. LAKSHMIKANTHA- scrutinising their applications our MMA (Khammam) : I am prepared to party decided to admit only 28 per­ speak. sons out of 34 persons and since the ethers were not successful in getting MR. CHAIRMAN: It seems those admission to the party they have Members are not prepared to speak created so many troubles. today. But tomorrow nothing can be certain. Our ron. friend Mr. P. K. Deo has said so much for Mr. Patnaik Mr. Rou­ SHRIMATI T. LAKSHMIKANTH A- trai and Mr. Mohanty. But they re­ MMA: You can adjourn the House solved to join the Congress party, the now. nr\t day the same Mr. Deo was con­ demning them. Now that they are MR. CHAIRMAN: We cannot ad­ with him. he is pleading their case. journ like that. Then, Mr. Arjun Sethi. The Governor had quoted the words SHRI ARJUN SETHI (Bhadrak): of ex-Chief Minister, now an impor­ Mr. Chairman, Sir, in the first ins­ tant leader in Pragati Party; “The tance, I would like to say something greater the delay the greater the about our ex-Maharajah, Mr. P. K. chance of losing the present majority. Deo, who never in his life thought If there is delay in taking the decisions about the people of Orissa or at least some members, who have come to us, even about the people in his kingdom may go back and Aya Ram t»r.d Gaya which he possessed in the past. Today, Ram may take place”. These words I am much surprised to hear from our have clearly shown that they are not ex-Maharaja who has been very much quite sure whether those members Pleading for the people of Orissa and would remain with them or not, and wanted to save democracy in Orissa. it also clearly proves that what the Governor had done is the right thing and is in conformity with the Consti­ Sir, the House is well aware that tution. these people, these Swantantrites— who are a combination of the ex-Ma- harajah—never want to preserve de­ The Governor has also pointed out mocracy for the interests of the peo- in his remark that “it will thus be p5e’ tor the interests of the common clear that political defections by the 363 Statutory Resolution MARCH 22, 1973 Orissa Budget, & D. G. 364 (On Account) etc. LShrl Arjun Sethi] In presenting the budget, the bon. Members of the Legislative Assembly Minister of State lor Finance had in this State from time to time either stated in his speech that a part of from the consinderation of office or the deficit in the State I» likely to be for personal gains has become com­ covered by the additional resources mon and has affected the political mobilisation by the State. life of the State adversely. This ten­ dency is shameful to the functioning of democracy.” MR. CHAIRMAN: The hon. Mem­ The Governor is not only the Cons­ ber will please continue his speech titutional bead of State, he is also the tomorrow. He will have only two guardian of the interests of the people, more minutes to conclude his speech. especially because in Orissa the people do not know anything and frustrated politicians had been trying to re­ Now, the House stands adjourned main in power and exploit the bac- till 11 a.m. on Friday, the 23rd March, ward people there. 1973. 18 hrs. 18.01 hrs. The Governor here also mentions about the M.L.As as to how they have been intimidated to give their signa­ The Lok Sabha then adjourned till tures to withdraw their support to FA even of the Clock on Friday, March. Nandini Satpathi’s Ministry. ms/Chaitra 2. 1895 (Safca).

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