Lok Sabha Debates

Thursday, March 22, 1973 Fifth Series1R. 23 Chaitra 1, 1895 (Saka) /2.6$%+$ '(%$7(6 Seventh Session Fifth/RN6DEKD /2.6$%+$6(&5(7$5,$7 New Delhi Rs:2.00 C O NTENTS Columns No. *?. Thwsdax, March, 22, 1^73JChaitra 1, 1895 (Saka) Oral Answers to questions: ♦Starred Questions Nos 421 to 423, 425 to 427, 429 and 432 1-31 ■Written Answers to Questions • Starred Questions Nos. 424, 428,430 431 and 433 to 440 31-41 Unstarred Questions Nos. 4156 to 4166, 4168,4169, 4171, to 4175, 4177 to 4190, 4192 to 4267,4269 to 4277, 4279 to 4287, 4289 to 4320 and 4322 to 4327 42-166 Calling Attention to Matter of urgent Public Importance Reported death of a nursing officer and serious injury to another due to alleged assault and molestation in a Mini Bus in Delhi .... 167-184 Papers Laid on the T a b i c ....................................................... 184-186 Estimates Committee : Thirty-third Report ........................ 186 Committee on Absence of Members from sittings of the House Ninth R e p o r t ............................................................. 186 Statement Re. Guru Gobind Singh Medical College, Faridabad 187-190 Shri R. K. Khadilkar .............................................. 187-189 Re. Milo imported from U S A ........................................................191-192 Re. Arrest of Demonstrators at C handigarh..................................... 193 Andhra Pradesh Budget, 1973- 74—General Discussion, Demands for Grants on Account, 1973- 74, and Supplementary Demands for Grants, I972“73 193-297 Shri Samar Mukherjee .... 216-222 Shri PVG Raju . 222-226 Shri Bhogendra Jha . 226-231 Shri K. Ramakrishna Reddy . 231-235 Shri G. Viswanathan .... 235-241 "The Sign-f marked above the name of a Member indicates that the ques tion was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. 3983 LS— 1 m Columns Shri P. Venkatasubbaiah.............................................. 241-246 Shri Jagannathrao J o s h i ....................................................... 247-252 Shti K. Surayanarayana..................................... • 252-257 ShriPiloo Mody ....................................................... 257-261 Shri M. Ram Gopal Reddy .....................................261-266 Shri M. S. Sanjeevi R a o .......................................................266-269 Prof. Madhu Dandavate.......................................................269-273 Shri T. Balakrishnaiah .....................................273-276 Shri M. Satyanara>ana Rao .....................................276 282 Shrimati T. Lakshmikanthamma.....................................282-287 Shri K. N a ra ya n a R a o....................................................... 287-290 Shri K. R. G a n e s h .......................................................290-295 Andhra Pradesh Appropriation (Vote on Account) Bill, 1973—Introduced ....................................................... 297-299 Motion to considcz ....................................................... 297 Motion to Pass . ..................................... 299 Shri P. Vankatasubhaiah....................................................... 298 Shri K. Narayana R a o ....................................................... 298 Shri G. Viswanathan ..... 299 Shri K. R. G a n e s h ....................................................... 299 Re. C.B.I. Inquiry into Rags Scandal .... 300-304 Andhra Pradesh Appropriation Bill, 1973—Introduced and passed 299-300 Statutory Resolution re. Approval of proclamation in relation to Orissa & Orissa Budget, 1973- 74—General Discussion, Demands for Grants, on Account, 1973-74 anc* Supplementary De mands for Grants, 1972-73 ................................................304-364 Shri K. C. Pant ....................................................... 304-308 Shri P. K. Deo ...... 340*346 Shri Dinen B h a tta ch a ry y a ..................................... 345-352 Shri JagannathRao ..................................... 352-357 Shri Rudra Pratap S i n g h .............................................. 357-350 Shri Arjun Sethi . 361-364 LOK SABHA DEBATES LOK SABHA the months of January and February, 1973, the army was called out on 8 occasions for the maintenance of Thunday, March 22, 1973/Chaitra 1, essential services and on 17 occasions 1895 (Saka) ior maintaining law and order Fur ther details are given m statements The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the laid on the Table of the House. Clock [Placed tn Library See No LT-4556/ 73 1 [M r S peaker tn the Chair] ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS (b) According to standing instruc tions of Government the prior Army tailed for Maintenance of bpproval of the Central Government Essential Services and for Cont is not required before army assistance rolling Law and Order Situation is sought by State Governments for maintaining law and order How *421 PROF NARAIN CHAND ever, according to the same instruc PARASHAR- Will the Minister of tions, troops are made available for DEFENCE be pleased to state the maintenance of essential services (a) the numbrr of occasions along onlv after approval b-s the Central with the names of the places and the Government States m which the army has been (c) Government are not aware of called out to assist the Civil authori any such statement having been ties in the maintenance of essential made by any senior military officer services and for controlling the law and order situation during the calen PROF NARAIN CHAND PARA-w dar year 1972 and the months of SHAR While we are appreciative January and February 1973, of the good work done by the army (b) whether the State Governments on the various occasions mentioned concerned obtained the approval of m the statement, may I know who Centra] Government before request bears the expenditure incurred on ing the Officers in Command of the these occasions’ army in the States concerned, and SHRI VIDYA CHARAN SHUKLA: (c) whether any senior military I suppose the State Governments bear Officer has recently disapproved of the expenditure the tendency of deploying armed PROF NARAIN CHAND PARA forces for the purposes of controlling SHAR: Since the answer to part (c) political and violent agitations for of the question is “No”, may I know regional purposes7 whether he is absolutely sure that no THE MINISTER OF STATE senior army officer has made such a (DEFENCE PRODUCTION) IN THE statement, because it amounts to some MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI sort of politicalisation of the issue’ VIDYA CHARAN SHUKLA): (a) If not will this question be gone During the calendar year 1972 and into in detail’ Oral Answers MARCH 22, 1073 Oral Answer? 4 SHRI VIDYA CHARAN SHUKLA: Therefore, the question of considering, We have gone into this question in it does not arise. dttiail. Part (c) has been answered after ascertaining all the facts. SHRI P. VENKATASUBB AI AH: At one time, when the popular Gov ernment was in Andhra Pradesh, the- SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA; In view army was also requisitioned. Now, cf the fact that the so-called law and the law and order situation has been order breakdown seems to bo on the brought to normal In order to- increase for various reasons, may I remove the misapprehensions among know whether the Government is the people there, is the Government thinking o£ some other means of serioubly considering, since it is under dealing with such situations rather the President’s Rule, to withdraw the than committing the armed forces to army as soon as possible? this job, in view of the fact that it cannot bo good even for the morale SHRI VIDYA CHARAN SHUKLA: of the armed forces to be brought in The army units am in their normal xepeatedly to perform such duties pliaces of deployment They are not which are not normally their duties, deployed for non-military duties at (apart from creating certain ideas also present there. in the minds of certain people in the armed forces that the civil authorities are unable to function without the wam yrerrefr .- srnsr sfr help of the armed forces’ SHRI VIDYA CHARAN SHUKLA: ^rrt <fr I generally agree with what the hon. # iteR 5TRT SR T O I I W Member has said. Neither we, nor the State Governments, wish that the 3W * W W ' T T f3R K W troops should be called in for main tenance of law and order, unless it is TTHHT "TT absolutely essential or imperative. 3THT ^ I fell’ SPTT «pTTOT 3JT^r 3JT Normally, the civil law and order machinery is used and then, if neces fr fFmrr stft f r o r m w t sary, they call their own armed con stabulary, the BSF and the CRP. qr ’srrf^r ^rrt if fatft Only when it becomes absolutely cr? % ?r st essential in the judgment of the civil authorities who are in-charge of law frrr 5^rnrr z m ^rr s w r | land order that all such action is taken. But I must assure the hon. 3MT 3fT ? Member that if this is done it is done absolutely as a last resort, not sft f*TOT : tTRvfor as a matter of routine or in any other manner. 5tt<t sfa 1 1 m m m - w f - SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: I wanted to know whether the Govern | ?ft T m ^rc fofa ment are considering the political '^TcfT ^ ^ HTTHT- implications that may arise out of the army’s feeling that they have fm R R^TcT PTTnTJT FT i-ft 3TTHT f become indispensable to the main tenance of civil authorities. m w r aft srr* srfeWV 1 'flrfwn: xprr SHRI VIDYA CHARAN SHUKLA: As I said, we share the same feeling. ft cTC^ # WT 3T ®lt*T Oral Answers CHAITRA 1, 1895 (SAKA) Oral Answers 6 I ^TTtTRTT *jft $ttTT «fi ‘w WT«r 5pR . q f <n | % t tfst ^rofnx % gTTT T m 3 m 3rarr arrer | % ^ % v x wrt | srft srrc f^rfTPTcT tftT *r t o t f^nr fa*rw % srre ^tf Nfa srnr— ?rf eft 5^1 cT^T f^TT ^TRTT % fa» *^ft sTTcT ^Pt wrarr | i *n ?r *rt i wf^nr, qfe qjjff ^tf f^ 2*TT ft SHRI H. M. PATEL: May I know whether the expenditure on such f^rcr ^?fr srresfgwr «rt ?nfr $tr ^rsr^n: occasions is borne by the State Gov ernment, and if so, would he indicate ^r m tfVfw the items of expenditure? Does it srrfarar % iRT ' f w ^T^rr | ^fr ?ft mean everything that the armed forces cost or what are those items % ^ w ?rftre?rc ^t w fm ^ of expenditure? ^ 1 1 SHRI VIDYA CHARAN SHUKLA: I do not have the precise inlorma- SHRI MUHAMMED KHUDA tion with me.

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