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Linda Wu and Jane Gee Oral History Interview Interviewee: Jane Gee, Linda Wu Interviewer: Anne Chao Date of Interview: October 10, 2012 Transcribed by: Saniya Gayake (August 7, 2019) Edited by: Brandon Cua (December 6, 2019) Audio Track Time: 1:49:08 Background: The mother-daughter pair, Jane Gee and Linda Wu have lived in Houston since the early 20th century, and their family has run various grocery stores and restaurants since then. Jane Gee and her husband have also been involved in the Chinese American Citizens Alliance and the Miss Chinatown Pageant. After her mother was the chair of the Miss Chinatown Pageant in Houston for 15 years, Linda Wu took over to preside as the chair. In this interview, Jane Gee and Linda Wu discuss the extensive yet close-knit Chinese-American community in Houston, their families’ running of restaurants and grocery stores, and the social-political atmosphere in Houston over the decades. Setting: This interview was conducted on October 10, 2012 in Jane Gee’s home. Jane Gee and Linda Wu discuss their family, the Chinese-American community in Houston, and their careers. The interview lasted an hour and forty-nine minutes. Key: AC: Anne Chao JG: Jane Gee LW: Linda Wu —: speech cuts off; abrupt stop …: speech trails off, pause Italics: emphasis [Brackets]: Actions [laughs, sighs, etc.] Transcript: AC: Thank you. Thank you so much for allowing me to come and visit with you. Um today is October 10th, on Tuesday—uh Wednesday afternoon around 2 o’clock I think. Um and I just would like to follow up and ask you more questions about your experience in Houston, first in the restaurant business, and then later uh maybe in real estate. And then your experience with Ms. Chinatown Pageant. [LW: Yeah.] You know, also, um your role as president of CACA, and also president of the Houston Restaurant Women’s Auxiliary. And um in order for me to learn more about the business and the social uh situation of Houston in the 1950's and 60's and 70's um so maybe if I can ask you when you first married Mr. Albert Gee and then um you know quit Rice University and became a manager to help in his restaurants, what kind of um activities, what kind of jobs did you do in the restaurants? JG: [laughs] Mostly cashier and checking uh the restaurant had uh uh car hops and uh we served food you know at the parking space around the restaurant so I'm usually um sitting there checking out their food, you know. Um they—they pay for the food when they first take it out [AC: Uh huh.] and then uh you know they collect from uh the people that they serve outside. So uh I was being cashier [laughs] AC: Oh, I see. I see. And which restaurant was this that you were cashiering for? JG: Uh… which restaurant? [AC: Yeah.] Oh uh the uh um uh… what's the name of that with— with the cashier—wi—with the um— LW: The Chinese Village? JG: Huh? LW: Was it Chinese village? [JG: yeah I think it was] Uncle Harry's Restaurant. JG: It was called The Chinese Village [LW: Mhm.] Yeah. AC: Great. And this was Harry uh Gee senior's restaurant? JG: Yes. Uh huh. AC: I see. [JG: Yes.] So at the time, your husband was working for Harry was was your hus— JG: Well, no he's a partner. AC: Oh, he's a partner? JG: Uh huh. AC: Okay, okay. Um, do you remember how much the restaurant made everyday? JG: Oh, you mean the receipts everyday? [AC: Yeah, yeah.] I—I right now, I have no idea. [laughs] That's been a long time. AC: Right. Was it a very uh very lucrative res—did the restaurant make money? JG: Yes, it was a success for business. [AC: Okay.] Uh, and then upstairs uh we have a a a a room that the, uh you know, we can serve for uh people that want to party there [AC: Oh, okay.] You know, have a party there. AC: Wow. [JG: Uh huh.] That's great. And uh I think Gordan Gee told me that at one point his restaurant and another restaurant owned by an American were like the best restaurants in Houston. But your husband's restaurants were very very successful. Were they also like a gathering place for politicians and um [JG: Mm.] city council members? JG: Yeah, like the mayor of Houston and uh and and uh, you know, people like that, [AC: Yeah.] people in—in um politics. [AC: Right.] Yeah. [AC: Yeah.] And they—they come around. [AC: Yeah.] You know. AC: So how did that happen because there many Chinese restaurants in Houston? I mean, not many, but there are other Chinese restaurants in Houston at the time. JG: But there's not that many Chinese restaurants at that time. [AC: Okay.] There um, when I first came to Houston from San Antonio to attend Rice, um there were only about three, three restaurants, [AC: Uh huh.] Chinese restaurants. Most of the Chinese people in those days, they were in the grocery business [AC: Uh huh.] and uh there's quite a few people in the grocery business. In fact, we were, you know, my husband and I were in the grocery business to begin with and he just uh, because of his uncle um and—he that's how come he went in to the restaurant business. AC: Oh, I see. [JG: Yeah.] But when you first left Rice and when you married your husband, you stopped studying at Rice, was your first job in the grocery store or was it in a restaurant? JG: My job? AC: When—when you left Rice and you married uh Mr. Gee, did you go first into the grocery business or did you go into the restaurant business? JG: Well, in—into the restaurant business. AC: Oh, okay. [JG: Yeah.] Okay. And when did you have the grocery business? JG: I'm sorry? AC: When did you have the grocery business? JG: Oh, that was before, that was before we went into the restaurant business and um uh, in those days, most of the Chinese in Houston was in the grocery business. And um there was a uh um gentleman from um, well he was a Chinese school teacher in San Antonio. [AC: Oh, okay.] And when he moved over here, he went into the grocery business and he helped a lot of his relatives get started in the grocery business. [AC: Uh huh. And—] That's how come we have quite a few grocery stores and we didn't have, at that time, we did not have that many res— Chinese restaurants. AC: Oh, I see. Um I think the man you're talking about C.Y. Chu? JG: Yes. Uh huh. AC: Yes, and his brother Wanto, Wanto Chu? JG: Yes, his brother is Wanto Chu. AC: Right, right. So they helped. Um so did the so did the mayor come to your restaurant because it was nearby the city hall or because the—he—the restaurant is well-known for good food? [JG: Yeah.] Do you know why? JG: Well we have a lot of politicians come and then a lot of po—policeman come. [AC: Uh huh.] Uh, they can, [laughs] when they come in, the—I'm just talking about the—the policeman. You know, the circulate, you know, in—in the community, and uh when they come in for a cup of coffee, you know, to take a break, my husband never charge them. AC: Oh, smart! [JG & AC laugh] JG: So we have a, we got to know a lot of policemen. [JG & AC laugh] AC: That's great. Um so um so you were cashier for one restaurant? Or many restaurants? How— JG: Now I was cashiering for—for the uh uh uh… when we had car hops [AC: Oh, okay.] That's the only time I was cashiering. [laughs] AC: I see, I see. And then uh after that restaurant, did you stay home to take care of your daughters or did you also work um at other places. JG: Well, well after I had, my um you know, first, I only have two daughters. [AC: Right.] We have two daughters. [laughs] Linda is the younger one, and my other daughter's been living in California. [AC: Oh.] And uh she is a—she is a retired high school science teacher. [AC: Oh, okay.] Yeah, and she had just come back from um a um uh a cruise. She went—she got to go to Egypt. AC: Wow, wow. [JG: Yeah.] That's nice to be on the cruise going to Egypt. [JG: Yeah, right.] [JG & AC laugh] JG: I just heard from her this morning. She came back last night from a cruise. [AC: Oh wow.] She called me, tell me—told me all about it uh uh. [AC laugh] She even got to go to Egypt. AC: Wow, that's a long cruise to go [JG: Yeah.] from here to Egypt. [JG: Yeah, yeah.] So then uh so you stayed home and took care of your daughter for a while? Or did you work at the same time in other restaurants? JG: Well, not really uh I did not um work at the um restaurants uh we first had uh two grocery stores. [AC: Oh okay.] And um… see my husband knows the, the um restaurant business better than the grocery business.
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