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Read Ebook {PDF EPUB} Thirteen Soldiers A Personal History of Americans at War by John McCain McCain's 'Soldiers:' 13 Ordinary People Transformed By Battle. Arizona Senator John McCain had a really good week. When we reached him after the election, he jokingly said he was living the dream, but as Republicans prepare to take control of the Senate, McCain was also cautious. SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN: There's a feeling out there that we're adrift and I would, in fairness, point out that there is not a great deal of approval of Republicans in Congress either, so we're going to have to see if we can find common ground with our Democrat friends on some issues without betraying any of our principles. WERTHEIMER: We didn't spend all our time talking about Republican victory - that's because Senator McCain has a new book out, written with Mark Salter. It's called "Thirteen Soldiers: A Personal History Of Americans At War." Thirteen soldiers, one from every war this country has fought, beginning with the revolution, down to the war in Iraq. Senator McCain explains. MCCAIN: We try to, kind of, give a cross-section of people who - the only thing that really bound them together was the fact that they served their country with heroism and sacrifice. WERTHEIMER: You picked a major historic figure to represent Americans at war and the Civil War - no less a person than Oliver Wendell Holmes, who went on to be a justice of the United States. But in your book - and you include a photograph of him - he's a skinny kid at Harvard who's obviously never thought of fighting a battle, he's never even been hunting, but he believed, as many people from his home state of Massachusetts did, that slavery should be abolished. MCCAIN: Not only did he have that, but he also was dramatically changed by the war. He went on to serve, as you mention, as a famous jurist, but he also saw so many of his - not only his own comrades on the union side, but fellow American citizens on the Confederate side die in these incredible conflicts that took place. So he almost lost his life a couple of times. His famous father searched for him among the wounded. So while he said war is horrible and dull, he remembered a man's willingness to sacrifice himself for another made him, quote, "capable of miracles." WERTHEIMER: I was very interested to see that for the soldier of the Korean War, you picked Pete Salter. Now, he is your co-author's father. He seemed, to me, to represent another theme, which goes throughout this book, that ordinary guys go to war and find themselves doing extraordinary things. MCCAIN: It's a story of the first part of the Korean War, which, of course, always fades from our memories. I understand all that, but the first year of that war was a near thing and Pete Salter fought all the way north up next to the Yellow River, the northern most part of North Korea. And it's also a great part of the story, is, of course, a guy named Mitchell Red Cloud, who is a Native American, literally gave up his life to save the others. WERTHEIMER: That was a story that was just - you could practically see it as a movie. Pete Salter, who is this nice-looking kid, he, at Mitchell Red Cloud's request, he tied him to a tree. MCCAIN: Yeah, he was badly wounded and he knew that he wasn't going to make it out and so he asked Pete Salter and his friend to tie him to this tree and the last they heard as they went down the hill was the sound of his BAR, that's an automatic weapon that they had left him with. WERTHEIMER: You also chose two women who served in the most recent wars in the Middle East - a reservist in the quartermaster corps from Desert Storm and Monica Lin Brown, a medic. She served in Afghanistan and I understand that you chose Brown because you know her - you know her story. MCCAIN: It's a remarkable story. And one of the things we tried to point out is the role that medics play in modern warfare. There was a very small chance of being wounded on the battlefield and living, say, in World War II, but we have developed techniques and people and medical capabilities that we are able to save about 90 percent. And it's people like her, highly, highly trained, highly skilled and, by the way, incredibly brave because they go right into fire to help these people. The sight of blood made her sick. She trained as a paratrooper and then, of course, when we asked her why she had exposed herself to enemy fire she responded it's my job. WERTHEIMER: It's really an extraordinary story where she - one of their vehicles runs over an IED and she ran to it, in spite of the fact that all sorts of people were shooting at her. MCCAIN: And she literally shielded the wounded with her own body. I mean, it's just a remarkable story and I think, you know, we've always had this ongoing debate and discussion about women in combat and, frankly, many years ago, I had a very different attitude than I have today because I believe that women have proven themselves in combat and, therefore, they can add an enormous amount, frankly, to our ability to defend the nation. WERTHEIMER: Senator John McCain - his new book is called "Thirteen Soldiers: A Personal History Of Americans At War." I probably ought to mention that Senator McCain's own story is not in this book, but, of course, he's written about his personal history at war in other books. Senator McCain, thank you so much for doing this. MCCAIN: Thank you very much. It's great to talk to you. Copyright © 2014 NPR. All rights reserved. Visit our website terms of use and permissions pages at www.npr.org for further information. NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by Verb8tm, Inc., an NPR contractor, and produced using a proprietary transcription process developed with NPR. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. Accuracy and availability may vary. The authoritative record of NPR’s programming is the audio record. John McCain enters the 'No Spin Zone' O'REILLY: "Personal Story" segment tonight. Senator John McCain who is a friend to this program has a new book out called "13 Soldiers," a personal history of Americans at war just in time for Veterans Day tomorrow. Last week the senator and I sat down. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) O'REILLY: Senator, a couple of political questions first. You are a big immigration guy. You had a bill that you didn't get passed. Now, President Obama says he may use executive authority's power to legalize some undocumented and the Republican Party in threatening him with Armageddon if he does. How do you see it? SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: Well, I see it a cynical action that means that the President really isn't that interested in comprehensive immigration reform. He is only interested in placating his base and his Hispanic population of our nation because he knows full well that that will cause a huge negative reaction amongst the republicans and frankly most Americans. O'REILLY: Now, he said in his press conference last week that he was willing to work with republicans on the immigration issue. But then he says, if it's not done at the end of the year, he's going to take unilateral action. So, I'm confused. I want you to try to make a prediction here. What do you think he is going to do? MCCAIN: I'm very much afraid that he is going to take unilateral action so he can go back to the democrat Hispanic base, that that have been so very critical of him for not acting and say, see there, we'll blame it all on the republicans in Congress again. O'REILLY: So you think he wants a civil war for political reasons? Is that what you are saying? MCCAIN: I can't say that specifically that that is, his intention. But I can certainly say that that's going to be the effect. And, Bill, this is an issue that we can sit down and resolve. We can work together. O'REILLY: I agree. I think so. MCCAIN: And if we had a legislation started in the House in whatever form a dream act. By something like that. Then we could work in the Senate with him, but for him to unilaterally carpet bomb us here. Then that is going to cause a huge negative reaction. Frankly amongst my constituents. O'REILLY: Last week, the President, it was revealed. He didn't tell us when it was revealed. The President wrote a note to the Mullahs in Iran. Saying, hey, I want you to help a South fighting ISIS, and you objected to that because the Iranians have supported Assad and Syria who are killing the people that were supposed to be allied with, against ISIS and gets pretty complicated. MCCAIN: It gets complicated. But it's immoral. We're now supposedly training about 5,000 or more Syrians who are going to go back in and fight against Bashar Assad.