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CONGO-2013/02/11 1 THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTION FINDING A LASTING SOLUTION TO INSTABILITY IN THE DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO: A CONVERSATION WITH U.S. ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE JOHNNIE CARSON Washington, D.C. Monday, February 11, 2013 PARTICIPANTS: Introduction: MWANGI S. KIMENYI Senior Fellow and Director, Africa Growth Initiative The Brookings Institution Moderator: MICHAEL O'HANLON Senior Fellow and Director of Research, Foreign Policy The Brookings Institution Featured Speaker: AMBASSADOR JOHNNIE CARSON Assistant Secretary of State, Bureau of African Studies U.S. Department of State * * * * * ANDERSON COURT REPORTING 706 Duke Street, Suite 100 Alexandria, VA 22314 Phone (703) 519-7180 Fax (703) 519-7190 CONGO-2013/02/11 2 P R O C E E D I N G S MR. KIMENYI: Good afternoon. I’m Mwangi Kimenyi. I’m a senior fellow here and also the director of the Africa Growth Initiative, and I would like to welcome you to this event on the DRC with—a conversation with the Assistant Secretary Johnnie Carson, who is with us here today. Just as a note before I introduce, this event is live Webcasted, so it’s already on the webcast, and we have a hashtag, it’s #DRCsolutions, so for those of you—those people watching us on Webcast—can send their Tweets and messages to us. So, as we all know, the DRC has been a big issue in Africa and it’s a very important country, and its stability is crucial to the development of the entire region, and we are very happy that Assistant Secretary, Ambassador Johnnie Carson has accepted to come and discuss this very important issue with us this afternoon, and we think we will give the audience time to ask him questions and he will give us insights. As you see, the title of his talk is “Finding a Lasting Solution to the Instability in DCR.” I would like to introduce Ambassador Carson, who was sworn in as Assistant Secretary for the Bureau of African Affairs on May 7, 2009. Prior to this, he was the national intelligence officer for Africa at the NIC, after serving as senior vice- president of the National Defense University in Washington, DC. Ambassador Carson’s seven-year—that seven year Foreign Service career includes ambassadorships to Kenya, Zimbabwe and Uganda, and Principle Deputy Assistant Secretary for the Bureau of African Affairs. He has also served as desk officer in the African Section at State’s Bureau of Intelligence and Research, staff officer for the Secretary of State, and staff director for Africa Subcommittee of the U.S. House of Representatives. ANDERSON COURT REPORTING 706 Duke Street, Suite 100 Alexandria, VA 22314 Phone (703) 519-7180 Fax (703) 519-7190 CONGO-2013/02/11 3 Clearly, a lot of service to the U.S. in Africa. After his comments, the discussion will be moderated by our own Mike O’Hanlon, a senior fellow and director of research in the Foreign Policy Program at the Brookings Institution where he specializes in U.S. defense strategy, the use of military force and American foreign policy. He is also a visiting lecturer at Princeton University and adjunct professor at John Hopkins University, and a member of the International Institute for Strategic Studies. He is a member of General David Petraeus’ External Advisory Board at the Central Intelligence Agency. If I were to read everything for Mike it would take us a long time, so I’ll stop there except to say he served as a Peace Corps volunteer in Congo, Kinshasa, then Zaire, from 1982 to 1984, where he taught college and high school physics in French. That seems like contradiction of what I know Michael does. So, Ambassador Carson, welcome to Brookings again. Please come to the podium. (Applause) AMBASSADOR CARSON: Good afternoon, everyone, in a very, very crowded audience. I want to first of all thank Dr. Kimenyi for his warm introduction and also the Brookings Institution for agreeing to host today’s event. I would be remiss if I did not recognize three individuals who are here with us this afternoon including the ambassador from the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Ambassador Mitifu, the ambassador from Rwanda, Ambassador Kimonyo, and also the ambassador from the newest country in Africa, but also in the world, the ambassador from South Sudan. I know there are a number of other distinguished individuals in the audience with us this afternoon, please pardon me for not recognizing you by name, but I will warmly welcome your presence here this afternoon. ANDERSON COURT REPORTING 706 Duke Street, Suite 100 Alexandria, VA 22314 Phone (703) 519-7180 Fax (703) 519-7190 CONGO-2013/02/11 4 The Brookings Institution has long, long been a center of excellence in public policy and in foreign policy, and its African Growth Initiative Program, drawing on the knowledge of both African and American scholars and researchers, is now making significant contributions to our understanding of some of Africa’s most challenging economic and social problems. The Democratic Republic of the Congo, or the DRC as it is commonly known, is one of those countries that deserves greater research and attention, as well as a higher place on our foreign policy priority list. Since its independence on June 30, 1960, the DRC has been mostly a poster child for many of the problems that have afflicted Africa over the past five decades: military coups, rampant corruption, anemic development, health pandemics, runaway inflation, conflict minerals and poor governance. After many years of looking at and trying to deal with a string of recurring crises in the DRC, many people have ignored or written off the country as simply hopeless. That would be a serious mistake for the people of the Congo, for those countries in Central Africa who neighbor and border it, and the global community who recognizes that we have a stake in promoting stability and social progress around the world and that the instability in the DRC is not cost free to the United States. Your presence here today reflects your interest and concern about finding lasting solutions to the instability, social upheaval and unrealized economic potential that has plagued the DRC for so many years. I think there is a very strong constituency among Americans, Africans and the broader international community that wants the DRC to reach its true potential. And I believe this Administration has parallel support within Congress to elevate the issues affecting the DRC to a new level of importance. ANDERSON COURT REPORTING 706 Duke Street, Suite 100 Alexandria, VA 22314 Phone (703) 519-7180 Fax (703) 519-7190 CONGO-2013/02/11 5 Today, I would like to discuss why I think the world should redouble its efforts to end instability in the DRC. I also would like to lay out some ideas for your consideration for moving forward. First, a little background: The DRC should be one of Africa’s economic and political powerhouses. It is the second largest nation in sub-Saharan Africa and home to the third largest population after Nigeria and Ethiopia. The DRC has some of Africa’s most fertile soil and possesses almost unparallel hydroelectric potential. The country also contains many of Africa’s most precious materials and sought after land. In fact, if you brought a cell phone with you into this room today, you may have some of the DRC in your pocket or in your purse in the form of coltan. But as all of you know, the DRC is not one of Africa’s political and economic powerhouses. It has had a recurring U.N. peacekeeping presence since independence in 1960. It has the fifth-highest child mortality rate in the world, the 17th highest maternal mortality rate, and less than 2,000 miles of paved road. The DRC’s poverty, infrastructure deficits and other development benchmarks are among the worst in the world. The Congo is ranked last, number 187, on the United Nation’s Development Program’s Human Development Index. Instead of peace and prosperity, the Congolese have been plagued by decades of mismanagement, corruption, poor governance and recurring civil strife. These problems, as the proliferation of foreign armies, rebel groups, ethnic violence, arms trafficking and illicit mining have exacted a horrifying toll on the DRC and its people. The international community has invested huge sums of money into the DRC over many years with sometimes little to show for it. Why should we continue to do so when there are so many other competing and compelling global challenges out there? ANDERSON COURT REPORTING 706 Duke Street, Suite 100 Alexandria, VA 22314 Phone (703) 519-7180 Fax (703) 519-7190 CONGO-2013/02/11 6 First, no other conflict or act of violence since World War II has come close to taking so many lives. Rwanda, Somalia, the civil war in the Sudan and the conflict in Darfur all have commanded our attention. Eight hundred thousand people were killed in Rwanda in the summer of 1994, just over one million in Somalia’s two-decade long conflict, 300,000 in Darfur, and two million people were killed in the conflict between North and South Sudan before the Naivasha Peace Treaty was signed in January of 2005. However, in the DRC, conflict and resulting disease have killed more than five million people since 1998. Let me say that again. Since 1998, more than five million people have died in the DRC as a result of violence. I think that the international community has a moral imperative to act more effectively in the DRC to break this cycle of death and suffering and to address the other consequences of this violence, the unmitigated rape and sexual violence against women and children, the nearly two million internally displaced people, the approximately 450,000 Congolese refugees who have been forced to flee into neighboring countries, and the absence of secure and prosperous lives for virtually the entire country.