House of Commons Welsh Affairs Committee

Formal Minutes of the Committee

Session 2016-17

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The Welsh Affairs Committee

The Welsh Affairs Committee is appointed by the House of Commons to examine the expenditure, administration, and policy of the Office of the Secretary of State for (including relations with the National Assembly for Wales).

Current membership David T.C. Davies MP (Conservative, Monmouth) (Chair) MP (Conservative, Gower) Chris Davies MP (Conservative, Brecon and Radnorshire) Glyn Davies MP (Conservative, ) Dr James Davies MP (Conservative, Vale of ) Chris Elmore MP (Labour, Ogmore) (added 18.07.16) Paul Flynn MP (Labour, Newport West) (added 21.11.16) MP (Labour, Swansea East) (discharged 18.07.16) MP (Labour, Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney) (discharged 21.11.16) MP (Labour, Aberavon) MP (, Dwyfor Meirionnydd) Craig Williams MP (Conservative, Cardiff North) Mr Mark Williams MP (Liberal Democrat, )

Powers The Committee is one of the departmental select committees, the powers of which are set out in House of Commons Standing Orders, principally in SO No 152. These are available on the internet via www.parliament.uk

Publications The Reports and evidence of the Committee are published by The Stationery Office by Order of the House. All publications of the Committee (including press notices) are on the internet at www.parliament.uk/welshcom

The Reports of the Committee, the formal minutes relating to that report, oral evidence taken and some or all written evidence are available in printed volumes.

Additional written evidence may be published on the internet only.

Committee staff The current staff of the Committee is John-Paul Flaherty (Clerk), Elin Jones (Committee Specialist), Louise Glen (Senior Committee Assistant), Chloe Freeman (Committee Assistant) and George Perry (Media Officer).

Contacts All correspondence should be addressed to the Clerk of the Welsh Affairs Committee, House of Commons, London SW1A 0AA. The telephone number for general enquiries is 020 7219 3264; and the Committee’s email address is [email protected]

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Formal Minutes of the Committee, Session 2016-17

MONDAY 23 MAY 2016

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Glyn Davies Craig Williams Stephen Kinnock Mr Mark Williams Liz Saville Roberts

1. Broadcasting in Wales The Committee considered this matter.

2. Future programme The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Committee take oral evidence from the Secretary of State for Wales on his responsibilities.

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into Police and Crime Commissioner elections.

3. The future of nuclear power in Wales Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to the future of nuclear power in Wales be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

FNP 83 – Dr Carl Iwan Clowes FNP 84 – Nuclear Industry Association

Dr Richard Savage, Chief Nuclear Inspector, Dr Mina Golshan, Deputy Chief Nuclear Inspector, and Mike Finnerty, Deputy Chief Inspector, Office for Nuclear Regulation, gave oral evidence.

Professor Andrew Sherry, Director, National Nuclear Laboratory, gave oral evidence.

Andrea Leadsom MP, Minister of State, and Lee McDonough, Director, Office for Nuclear Development, Department for Energy and Climate Change, gave oral evidence.

4. The steel industry in Wales Andrea Leadsom MP, Minister of State, and Paul Van Heyningen, Head of Industrial Energy Use, Department for Energy and Climate Change, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Monday 6 June at 3.40 pm

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MONDAY 6 JUNE 2016

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Byron Davies Liz Saville Roberts Carolyn Harris Mr Mark Williams Gerald Jones

1. Future programme The Committee considered this matter.

2. Use of the in the sitting in Westminster The Committee considered this matter.

3. Pre-legislative scrutiny of the draft Wales Bill The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That, subject to the discretion of the Chair, written evidence received between scheduled committee meetings, over the period to 13 June 2016, directly related to pre- legislative scrutiny of the draft Wales Bill, shall be reported to the House for publication.

4. Broadcasting in Wales The Committee considered this matter.

5. The future of nuclear power in Wales The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to the future of nuclear power in Wales be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

FNP 85 – Jas Chanay

6. The future of the Severn River crossings Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to the future of the Severn River crossings be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

SEV 05 – Mr Ned Heywood SEV 06 – Robert Harris SEV 07 – Paul Barrows

Philip Smith, General Manager, and James Rawle, Deputy General Manager, Severn River Crossing Plc, gave oral evidence.

Eric Cornuaille, European Electronic Toll Service Consultant, HeyCo Consulting, gave oral evidence. [Adjourned till Monday 13 June at 10 am at The Drill Hall, Chepstow

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Monday 13 June 2016

The Chair, Byron Davies, Chris Davies, Gerald Jones, and Craig Williams visited Chepstow, Magor Services, and the Severn Bridge in connection with the Committee’s inquiry into the future of the Severn River crossings, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 9 May 2016.

MONDAY 13 JUNE 2016 The Committee met at The Drill Hall, Chepstow

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Byron Davies Gerald Jones Chris Davies Craig Williams

1. Pre-legislative scrutiny of the draft Wales Bill Draft Special Report (Pre-legislative scrutiny of the draft Wales Bill: Government Response to the Committee’s First Report of Session 2015-16), proposed by the Chair, brought up, read the first and second time, and agreed to.

The Government’s response to the First Report from the Committee of Session 2015-16 was appended to the Report.

Resolved, That the Report be the First Special Report of the Committee to the House.

Ordered, That the Chair make the Report to the House.

2. Broadcasting in Wales Draft Report (Broadcasting in Wales), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the First Report of the Committee, HC 14.

3. The future of the Severn River crossings Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to the future of the Severn River crossings be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

SEV 08 – Department for Transport

Ian Jarman, Vice Chair, Freight Council in Wales, and Ian Gallagher, Head of Policy (Southwest & Wales), Freight Transport Association, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Monday 4 July at 3.40 pm

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MONDAY 4 JULY 2016

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Byron Davies Gerald Jones Chris Davies Liz Saville Roberts Dr James Davies Craig Williams

1. Future programme The Committee considered this matter.

2. The future of the Severn River crossings Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to the future of the Severn River crossings be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

SEV 09 – Anthony Mayo SEV 10 – David Gibbs SEV 11 – Liz Cragg and Nick Cragg SEV 12 – Gwyn Smith SEV 13 –

Andrew Jones MP, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, and James Hooson, Strategic Roads Policy Manager, Department for Transport, and Andrew Page-Dove, Regional Director South West, Highways England, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 6 July at 2.30 pm

WEDNESDAY 6 JULY 2016

[The Committee met concurrently with the Business, Innovation and Skills Committee, Energy and Climate Change Committee and European Scrutiny Committee]

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Byron Davies Stephen Kinnock Glyn Davies Liz Saville Roberts Dr James Davies

The following members of the Business, Innovation and Skills Committee were also present (Standing Order No. 137A)

Jonathan Reynolds Iain Wright

The following members of the Energy and Climate Change Committee were also present (Standing Order No. 137A)

Tom Blenkinsop Glyn Davies

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The following members of the European Scrutiny Committee were also present (Standing Order No. 137A)

Sir William Cash Craig Mackinlay Geraint Davies Kelly Tolhurst Richard Drax Andrew Turner Stephen Kinnock

1. The steel industry in Wales Rt Hon Anna Soubry MP, Minister of State for Small Business, Industry and Enterprise, and Niall Mackenzie, Director of Infrastructure and Materials, Department for Business, Innovation and Skills, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 13 July at 3.40 pm

WEDNESDAY 13 JULY 2016

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Glyn Davies Craig Williams Gerald Jones Mr Mark Williams Liz Saville Roberts

1. Future programme The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into the implications for Wales of the EU Referendum result.

[Adjourned till Monday 18 July at 3.40 pm

MONDAY 18 JULY 2016

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Dr James Davies Liz Saville Roberts Gerald Jones Mr Mark Williams

1. The future of nuclear power in Wales Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to the future of nuclear power in Wales be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

FNP 86 – Department for Energy and Climate Change (supplementary)

2. The steel industry in Wales Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to the steel industry in Wales be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

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SIW 02 – Department for Energy and Climate Change

3. Police and Crime Commissioner Elections Rhydian Thomas, Head of Wales Office, and Andrew Scallan CBE, Director of Elector Administration, Electoral Commission, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 19 July at 2.10 pm

TUESDAY 19 JULY 2016

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Glyn Davies Liz Saville Roberts Gerald Jones Craig Williams Stephen Kinnock Mr Mark Williams

1. The future of nuclear power in Wales Draft Report (The future of nuclear power in Wales), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the First Report of the Committee, HC 129.

2. Future programme The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into the Wales and Borders rail franchise

3. Responsibilities of the Secretary of State for Wales Rt Hon. MP, Secretary of State for Wales, and Glynne Jones, Director, Wales Office, gave oral evidence. [Adjourned till Monday 5 September at 3.40 pm

MONDAY 5 SEPTEMBER 2016

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Byron Davies Gerald Jones Chris Davies Liz Saville Roberts Dr James Davies Craig Williams Chris Elmore Mr Mark Williams

1. Declaration of interests Chris Elmore declared his interests, in accordance with the Resolution of the House of 13 July 1992 (see Appendix).

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Chris Davies declared an interest in relation to the Committee’s evidence session into the Wales and Borders Rail Franchise, namely: that he is an honorary Vice-President of the Heart of Wales Line.

2. The future of nuclear power in Wales Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to the future of nuclear power in Wales be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

FNP 87 – Nuclear Legacy Advisory Forum

3. Implications for Wales of the EU Referendum result Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to the Implications for Wales of the EU Referendum result be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

BRX 02 – Tegid Roberts BRX 03 – Dr Robert Morgan BRX 04 – Churches Working Party on Europe

4. Police and Crime Commissioner Elections Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Police and Crime Commissioner Elections be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

PCC 01 – Andrew Scallan CBE

5. The future of the Severn River crossings Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to The future of the Severn River crossings be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

SEV 14 – Department for Transport (supplementary)

6. Wales and Borders Rail Franchise Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Wales and Borders Rail Franchise be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

WBR 02 – Institution of Civil Engineers Wales Cymru WBR 03 – WBR 04 – Professor Stuart Cole WBR 05 – Marches Strategic Rail Group WBR 06 – Angel Trains WBR 07 – WBRUA WBR 08 – Welsh Local Government Association WBR 10 – Mersey Dee Alliance WBR 11 – Heart of Wales Line Development Co. Ltd. WBR 12 – Mr Timothy Richards WBR 13 – Mr Merlyn Cooper WBR 14 – D Oliver WBR 16 – North Wales and Mersey Dee Rail Task Force WBR 17 – Rail Delivery Group WBR 18 – Welsh Government WBR 20 – Mr Tim Mourant

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WBR 21 – LGA Public Transport Consortium WBR 22 – North Wales Economic Ambition Board WBR 23 – West of England Local Enterprise Partnership WBR 24 – Gloucestershire County Council WBR 25 – RMT WBR 27 – Arriva UK Trains Ltd WBR 28 – Transport Focus WBR 29 – Caerphilly County Borough Council WBR 30 – Liverpool City Region Combined Authority WBR 31 – Bring Back British Rail WBR 32 – Association of Rail Partnerships WBR 33 – ASLEF WBR 34 – Mid Wales Regional Transport Group WBR 35 – North Cheshire Rail Users’ Group WBR 36 – Cheshire West and Chester Council WBR 39 – John Morton WBR 40 – Department for Transport

Resolved, That the Committee visit Cardiff on 15 September 2016, in connection with its inquiry into the Wales and Borders Rail Franchise.

Professor Stuart Cole, Emeritus Professor of Transport, University of South Wales, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Thursday 15 September at 1.45 pm at the National Assembly for Wales, Cardiff

Thursday 15 September 2016

The Chair, Chris Elmore, Liz Saville Roberts, and Mr Mark Williams visited Cardiff in connection with the Committee’s inquiry into the Wales and Borders Rail Franchise, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 5 September 2016.

THURSDAY 15 SEPTEMBER 2016 The Committee met at the National Assembly for Wales, Cardiff

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Chris Elmore Mr Mark Williams Liz Saville Roberts

1. Declaration of interests Mr Mark Williams declared an interest in relation to the Committee’s evidence session into the Wales and Borders Rail Franchise, namely: that his wife will be in receipt of a pension from Arriva Trains Wales.

2. Broadcasting in Wales

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Draft Special Report (Broadcasting in Wales: Government Response to the Committee’s First Report of Session 2016-17), proposed by the Chair, brought up, read the first and second time, and agreed to.

The Government’s response to the First Report from the Committee was appended to the Report.

Resolved, That the Report be the Second Special Report of the Committee to the House.

Ordered, That the Chair make the Report to the House.

3. Implications for Wales of the EU Referendum result The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Committee visit North, South and Mid Wales, in connection with its inquiry into Implications for Wales of the EU Referendum result.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Implications for Wales of the EU Referendum result be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

BRX 05 – RSPB Cymru

4. Police and Crime Commissioner Elections Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Police and Crime Commissioner Elections be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

PCC 02 – Electoral Commission

5. Cross-border health arrangements between England and Wales Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Cross-border health arrangements between England and Wales be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Letter dated 8 September 2016, from the Lord Prior of Brampton, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Health (Lords)

6. Future programme The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into the impact of Value Added Tax on the tourism sector in Wales.

7. Wales and Borders Rail Franchise Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Wales and Borders Rail Franchise be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

WBR 38 – Railfuture Wales

Ian Bullock, Managing Director, Arriva Trains Wales, and Roger Cobbe, Policy Director, Arriva Trains, gave oral evidence. This evidence was in the Welsh language.

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Elizabeth De Jong, Director of Policy, Rail Delivery Group, gave oral evidence. This evidence was in the Welsh language.

[Adjourned till Monday 17 October at 4.00 pm

MONDAY 17 OCTOBER 2016

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Byron Davies Liz Saville Roberts Glyn Davies Craig Williams Dr James Davies Mr Mark Williams Stephen Kinnock

1. The future of nuclear power in Wales Draft Special Report (The future of nuclear power in Wales: Government Response to the Committee’s Second Report of Session 2016-17), proposed by the Chair, brought up, read the first and second time, and agreed to.

The Government’s response to the Second Report from the Committee was appended to the Report.

Resolved, That the Report be the Third Special Report of the Committee to the House.

Ordered, That the Chair make the Report to the House.

2. Implications for Wales of the EU Referendum result Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Implications for Wales of the EU Referendum result be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

BRX 06 – Learned Society of Wales BRX 09 – Research Councils UK BRX 11 – Farmers’ Union of Wales

3. Devolution: Lessons for Wales Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Devolution: Lessons for Wales be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

DEV 01 – Tony Ogborn

4. Wales and Borders Rail Franchise AM, Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Infrastructure, and Simon Jones, Director of Transport and ICT infrastructure, Welsh Government, gave oral evidence.

Councillor Samantha Dixon, Chair, North Wales and Mersey Dee Cross-Border Rail Task Force, Ashley Rogers, Chair, North Wales Business Council, and Iwan Prys-Jones, Programme Manager North Wales Economic Ambition Board, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Monday 24 October at 4.30 pm

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MONDAY 24 OCTOBER 2016

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Glyn Davies Craig Williams Dr James Davies Mr Mark Williams Liz Saville Roberts

1. Wales and Borders Rail Franchise Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Wales and Borders Rail Franchise be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

WBR 41 – North Pembrokeshire Transport Forum (supplementary)

Paul Maynard MP, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, and Eddie Muraszko, Deputy Director, Midlands, North and Wales Market, Department of Transport, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Monday 21 November at 3.40 pm

Monday 31 October 2016

The Chair, Glyn Davies, Dr James Davies, Liz Saville Roberts, and Mr Mark Williams visited the High Commission of Canada in the , London, and the Québec Government Office, London, in connection with the Committee’s inquiry into Devolution: lessons for Wales, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 24 October 2016.

Monday 14 November 2016

The Chair, Glyn Davies, Liz Saville Roberts, and Mr Mark Williams visited Ebbw Vale, in connection with the Committee’s inquiry into Implications for Wales of the EU Referendum result, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 15 September 2016.

MONDAY 21 NOVEMBER 2016

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Byron Davies Stephen Kinnock Glyn Davies Liz Saville Roberts Dr James Davies Craig Williams

1. Future programme The Committee considered this matter.

2. Implications for Wales of the EU referendum result The Committee considered this matter.

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Resolved, That, further to the Committee’s decision of 15 September, the Committee visit , North Wales, in connection with its inquiry into Implications for Wales of the EU Referendum result.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Implications for Wales of the EU referendum result be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

BRX 12 – Professor Russell Deacon

3. Wales and Borders Rail Franchise The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Wales and Borders Rail Franchise be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

WBR 42 – Welsh Government (supplementary)

4. The future of nuclear power in Wales Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to The future of nuclear power in Wales be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Letter dated 16 November 2016, from AM, Minister for Lifelong Learning and Welsh Language, Welsh Government

5. Fiscal Framework for Wales The Committee considered this matter.

[Adjourned till Monday 12 December at 3.40 pm

Monday 28 November 2016

The Chair, Paul Flynn, Liz Saville Roberts, and Mr Mark Williams visited , in connection with the Committee’s inquiry into Implications for Wales of the EU Referendum result, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 15 September 2016.

Monday 5 December 2016

The Chair, Dr James Davies, Paul Flynn, and Liz Saville Roberts visited Prestatyn, in connection with the Committee’s inquiry into Implications for Wales of the EU Referendum result, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 21 November 2016.

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MONDAY 12 DECEMBER 2016

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Byron Davies Stephen Kinnock Chris Davies Liz Saville Roberts Dr James Davies Craig Williams Paul Flynn Mr Mark Williams

1. Declaration of interests Paul Flynn declared his interests, in accordance with the Resolution of the House of 13 July 1992 (see Appendix).

2. Implications for Wales of the EU referendum result Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Implications for Wales of the EU referendum result be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

BRX 13 – Jayne Cooke

3. Responsibilities of the Secretary of State for Wales Rt Hon Alun Cairns MP, Secretary of State for Wales, and Guto Bebb MP, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Wales, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Monday 9 January 2017 at 3.40 pm

MONDAY 9 JANUARY 2017

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Dr James Davies Liz Saville Roberts Glyn Davies Mr Mark Williams Paul Flynn

1. Implications for Wales of the EU referendum result The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Committee visit Liberty Steel, Newport, in connection with its inquiry into Implications for Wales of the EU Referendum result.

Resolved, That the Committee visit , Gwynedd, in connection with its inquiry into Implications for Wales of the EU Referendum result.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Implications for Wales of the EU referendum result be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

BRX 14 – Cancer Research BRX 15 – Roger Evans

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2. Implications for Wales of the EU Referendum result and Devolution: Lessons for Wales Resolved, That the Committee visit Brussels and Namur, Belgium, in connection with its inquiries into Implications for Wales of the EU Referendum result and Devolution: Lessons for Wales, and that the Chair seek the approval of the Liaison Committee for expenditure in connection with the visit.

3. Broadcasting in Wales follow up: Review of S4C Resolved, That the Committee take oral evidence from S4C.

4. Future programme The Committee considered this matter.

[Adjourned till Monday 16 January at 3.40 pm

MONDAY 16 JANUARY 2017

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Chris Davies Liz Saville Roberts Dr James Davies Craig Williams Paul Flynn Mr Mark Williams

1. Wales and Borders rail franchise Draft Report (Wales and Borders rail franchise), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Third Report of the Committee, HC 589.

2. Responsibilities of the Secretary of State for Wales Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Responsibilities of the Secretary of State for Wales be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Letter dated 10 January, from Rt Hon Alun Cairns MP, Secretary of State for Wales

[Adjourned till Monday 30 January at 3.40 pm

MONDAY 30 JANUARY 2017

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Byron Davies Liz Saville Roberts Chris Davies Craig Williams Paul Flynn Mr Mark Williams Stephen Kinnock

1. Implications for Wales of the EU referendum result

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Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Implications for Wales of the EU referendum result be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

BRX 16 – ColegauCymru/CollegesWales

2. Broadcasting in Wales follow-up: S4C funding Ian Jones, Chief Executive, S4C, and Huw Jones, Chair, S4C Authority, gave oral evidence. This evidence was in the Welsh language.

[Adjourned till Monday 20 February at 3.40 pm

Monday 6 February 2017

The Chair, Chris Davies, Paul Flynn, Stephen Kinnock, Liz Saville Roberts and Craig Williams visited Liberty Steel, Newport, in connection with the Committee’s inquiry into Implications for Wales of the EU Referendum result, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 9 January 2017.

MONDAY 20 FEBUARY 2017

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Byron Davies Glyn Davies Chris Davies Craig Williams

1. Financial scrutiny Ordered, That the written evidence relating to the Supplementary Estimate 2016-17 submitted by the Wales Office be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

2. Broadcasting in Wales follow up: Review of S4C Resolved, That the Committee take oral evidence from the University of Wales Trinity Saint David.

3. Future programme The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into post-Brexit.

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into Park homes.

Resolved, That the Committee take oral evidence from Oxford and Cambridge Universities.

4. Implications for Wales of the EU referendum result Professor Alan Page, Professor of Public Law, University of Dundee, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Monday 6 March at 3.40 pm

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Sunday 26 February – Tuesday 28 February

The Chair, Chris Davies, Dr James Davies, Paul Flynn, Craig Williams and Mr Mark Williams visited Brussels, Belgium, in connection with the Committee’s inquiries into Implications for Wales of the EU Referendum result and Devolution: Lessons for Wales, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 9 January 2017.

MONDAY 6 MARCH 2017

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Byron Davies Liz Saville Roberts Glyn Davies Craig Williams Dr James Davies Mr Mark Williams Paul Flynn

1. Implications for Wales of the EU referendum result The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Implications for Wales of the EU referendum result be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

BRX 17 – James Halsall

2. Future programme The Committee considered this matter.

[Adjourned till Monday 13 March at 2.15 pm

MONDAY 13 MARCH 2017

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Byron Davies Liz Saville Roberts Chris Davies Craig Williams Paul Flynn Mr Mark Williams

1. Broadcasting in Wales follow-up: S4C funding Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Broadcasting in Wales follow-up: S4C funding be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

S4C 01 – Professor Tegid Wyn Jones

Professor Medwin Hughes, Vice-Chancellor, and Gwyndaf Tobias, Deputy Vice-Chancellor, University of Wales Trinity Saint David, gave oral evidence. This evidence was in the Welsh language.

[Adjourned till Monday 20 March at 11.00 am

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Monday 20 March 2017

The Chair, Glyn Davies, Liz Saville Roberts, and Mr Mark Williams visited Dolgellau, in connection with the Committee’s inquiry into Agriculture in Wales post-Brexit, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 9 January.

MONDAY 20 MARCH 2017

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Glyn Davies Mr Mark Williams Liz Saville Roberts

1. Declaration of interests Glyn Davies declared an interest in relation to the Committee’s evidence session into the Agriculture in Wales post-Brexit, namely: that he is a livestock farmer, and is a recipient of subsidies for his farm business.

2. Implications for Wales of the EU referendum result Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Implications for Wales of the EU referendum result be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

BRX 19 – Welsh Local Government Association

3. Agriculture in Wales post-Brexit Glyn Roberts, President, and Dr Nick Fenwick, Policy Director, Farmers' Union of Wales, Stephen James, President, and Dylan Morgan, Director and Head of Policy, National Farmers' Union Cymru, gave oral evidence. This evidence was in the Welsh language.

[Adjourned till Monday 27 March at 3.40 pm

MONDAY 27 MARCH 2017

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Byron Davies Dr James Davies Chris Davies Stephen Kinnock Glyn Davies Craig Williams

1. Wales and Borders rail franchise Draft Special Report (Wales and Borders rail franchise: Government Response to the Committee’s Third Report of Session 2016-17), proposed by the Chair, brought up, read the first and second time, and agreed to.

The Government’s response, and response of Ken Skates AM, Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Infrastructure, Welsh Government, to the Third Report from the Committee was appended to the Report.

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Resolved, That the Report be the Fourth Special Report of the Committee to the House.

Ordered, That the Chair make the Report to the House.

2. Agriculture in Wales post-Brexit The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Committee visit the Royal Welsh Show, Llanelwedd, in connection with its inquiry into Agriculture in Wales post-Brexit.

Resolved, That the Committee visit Monmouth, in connection with its inquiry into Agriculture in Wales post-Brexit.

Resolved, That the Committee visit New Zealand on October 2017, in connection with its inquiry into Agriculture in Wales post-Brexit, and that the Chair seek the approval of the Liaison Committee for expenditure in connection with the visit.

3. Applications by Welsh pupils to Oxford and Cambridge Universities Dr Sam Lucy, Director of Admissions for the Cambridge Colleges, and Dr Samina Khan, Director, Undergraduate Admissions and Outreach, University of Oxford.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 19 April at 10.00 am

WEDNESDAY 19 APRIL 2017

Members present: David T.C. Davies, in the Chair

Byron Davies Paul Flynn Chris Davies Liz Saville Roberts Glyn Davies Mr Mark Williams Dr James Davies

1. Future programme The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Committee’s decision of 15 September 2016 to inquire into the impact of Value Added Tax on the tourism sector in Wales be rescinded

Resolved, That the Committee’s decision of 27 March to inquire into Park homes be rescinded.

Ordered, That, subject to the discretion of the Chair, written evidence received before the prorogation of Parliament shall be reported to the House for publication.

2. Financial scrutiny Ordered, That the written evidence relating to the Main Estimate 2017-18 submitted by the Wales Office be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

3. Implications for Wales of the EU referendum result

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Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Implications for Wales of the EU referendum result be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

BRX 20 – Ross Lloyd

4. Applications by Welsh pupils to Oxford and Cambridge Universities Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Applications by Welsh pupils to Oxford and Cambridge Universities be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

OXB 01 – Merthyr Tydfil County Borough Council OXB 02 – Gwynedd and Anglesey Post-16 Education Consortium

5. Agriculture in Wales post-Brexit Resolved, That the Committee’s decision of 27 March to visit the Royal Welsh Show, Llanelwedd, in connection with its inquiry into Agriculture in Wales post-Brexit be rescinded.

Resolved, That the Committee’s decision of 27 March to visit Monmouth, in connection with its inquiry into Agriculture in Wales post-Brexit be rescinded.

Resolved, That the Committee’s decision of 27 March to visit New Zealand on October 2017, in connection with its inquiry into Agriculture in Wales post-Brexit, and that the Chair seek the approval of the Liaison Committee for expenditure in connection with the visit be rescinded.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Agriculture in Wales post-Brexit be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

AGR 01 – Country Land and Business Association Cymru AGR 02 – Hybu Cig Cymru AGR 04 – Countryside Alliance

David Swales, Head of Strategic Insight, Agriculture and Horticulture Development Board, and Rebecca Williams, Director, Country Land and Business Association, gave oral evidence.

[The Committee adjourned.

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Evidence reported to the House for publication on Wednesday 26 April 2017 (Order of the Committee, 19 April 2017)

1. Applications by Welsh pupils to Oxford and Cambridge Universities Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to Applications by Welsh pupils to Oxford and Cambridge Universities be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

OXB 03 – City of Cardiff Council OXB 04 – Powys County Council OXB 05 – Coleg Sir Gâr Carmarthenshire OXB 06 – Carmarthenshire County Council

2. Agriculture in Wales post Brexit Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to Agriculture in Wales post Brexit be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

AGR006 – Farmers Union of Wales AGR007 – RSPB Cymru AGR008 – Growing Mid Wales AGR009 – Daniel Atter AGR010 – Wildlife Trusts Wales AGR011 – Wales Environment Link AGR012 – Compassion in World Farming AGR013 – NFU Cymru AGR014 – National Trust

3. Financial scrutiny Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Financial scrutiny be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Letter dated 24 April, from Rt Hon Alun Cairns MP, Secretary of State for Wales, on the 2016-17 Supplementary Estimate and Budget 2017.

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DECLARATIONS OF MEMBERS’ INTERESTS As at 14 July 2015, unless noted

Davies, David T. C. (Monmouth)

1. Employment and earnings Surveys completed for ComRes, Four Millbank, London SW1P 3JA: £75. Hours: 1 hr. (Registered 30 June 2014) £75. Hours: 1 hr. (Registered 28 August 2014) £75. Hours: 1 hr. (Registered 27 October 2014) £75. Hours: 1 hr. (Registered 09 December 2014) £75. Hours: 1 hr. (Registered 06 March 2015) £75. Hours: 1 hr. (Registered 14 May 2015)

Payments from Capita Business Services, 2nd floor, 17-19 Rochester Row, London SW1P 1LA: Payment of £150 for delivering one lecture (Updated 2 September 2014). Hours: 1 hr. (Registered 07 March 2014) Payment of £150 for delivering one lecture (Updated 2 September 2014). Hours: 1 hr. (Registered 27 March 2014) Payment of £150 for delivering one lecture (Updated 2 September 2014). Hours: 1 hr. (Registered 31 March 2014) Payment of £450 for delivering three lectures (Updated 2 September 2014). Hours: 3 hrs. (Registered 05 June 2014) Payment of £150 for delivering one lecture. Hours: 1 hr. (Registered 23 September 2014) Payment of £150 for delivering one lecture. Hours: 1 hr. (Registered 09 December 2014)

Payments from Ipsos MORI, 79-81 Borough Road, London SE1 1FY: Payment of £200 received for survey interview. Hours: 1 hr approx. (Registered 08 October 2014)

Payments from YouGov, 50 Featherstone Street, London EC1Y 8RT: £80 for taking part in a survey. Hours: 45 mins. (Registered 30 June 2014) £100 for taking part in a survey. Hours: 45 mins. (Registered 14 May 2015)

8. Miscellaneous Until January 2015; as a Special Constable for the British Transport Police, I was entitled to use my warrant card to travel on the London Transport system. The value of an all zones annual travel card for the London area was £3,268 in 2014. This benefit was first received in 2006. (Updated 29 August 2012, 2 April 2013, 5 February 2014 and 9 March 2015) (Registered 23 August 2011)

9. Family members employed and paid from parliamentary expenses I employ my wife, Aliz Davies, as part-time Senior Secretary.

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Davies, Byron (Gower)

1. Employment and earnings 29 May 2015, payment of £1,164.34 for my duties as an Assembly Member, National Assembly for Wales, Cardiff Bay, Cardiff CF99 1NA. Hours: no hours worked since the Election. (Registered 05 June 2015)

2. (a) Support linked to an MP but received by a local party organisation or indirectly via a central party organisation Name of donor: United and Cecil Club Address of donor: Munslows, 2nd Floor, New Penberal House, 283-288 High Holborn, London WC1V 7HP Amount of donation or nature and value if donation in kind: £2,500 Donor status: members' association (Registered 05 June 2015)

6. Land and property: (i) value over £100,000 (ii) rental income of over £10,000 a year Flat in Cardiff: (i) (Registered 05 June 2015) House in Ceredigion: (i) (Registered 05 June 2015)

Davies, Chris (Brecon and Radnorshire)

Nil

Davies, Glyn (Montgomeryshire): As at 9 May 2016

1. Employment and earnings Payments from ComRes for opinion surveys. Address: Four Millbank, London SW1P 3JA. Payment of £75 for April 2014 Parliamentary Panel Survey. Hours: 45 mins. (Registered 28 May 2015) Payment of £75 for May-June 2014 Parliamentary Panel Survey. Hours: 45 mins. (Registered 28 May 2015) Payment of £75 for July 2014 Parliamentary Panel Survey. Hours: 45 mins. (Registered 28 May 2015)

6. Land and property: (i) value over £100,000 (ii) rental income of over £10,000 a year Two-bedroom flat at Century Wharf, Cardiff Bay: (i) and (ii). (Updated 20 April 2012) Farmland, house and buildings near Llanerfyl, Montgomeryshire: (i) and (ii). (Updated 6 November 2012) Farmhouse, bungalow and farm buildings near , Montgomeryshire: (i) and (ii). (Updated 6 November 2012) House, land and buildings near , Montgomeryshire: (i) and (ii). (Registered 06 November 2012)

8. Miscellaneous Self-employed farmer.

9. Family members employed and paid from parliamentary expenses I employ my spouse, Bobbie Davies, as Senior Secretary.

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Harris, Carolyn (Swansea East)

Nil

Jones, Gerald (Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney)

1. Employment and earnings 15 May 2015, received £1,192.10 for 1-15 May 2015 as County Councillor, Deputy Leader and Cabinet Member for Housing, Caerphilly County Borough Council, Penallta House, Tredomen Business Park, Ystrad Mynach CF82 7PG. Hours: 74 hrs. (Registered 05 June 2015)

9. Family members employed and paid from parliamentary expenses I employ my partner, Tyrone Powell, as Senior Parliamentary Assistant. (Registered 04 June 2015)

Kinnock, Stephen (Aberavon): As at 8 February 2016

3. Gifts, benefits and hospitality from UK sources Name of donor: Amec Foster Wheeler Address of donor: Old Change House, 128 Queen Victoria St, London EC4V 4BJ Amount of donation or nature and value if donation in kind: Hospitality and ticket for RWC Wales v South Africa quarter final, value £400 Date received: 14 October 2015 Date accepted: 14 October 2015 Donor status: company, registration no 16765285 (Registered 30 October 2015)

6. Land and property: (i) value over £100,000 (ii) rental income of over £10,000 a year Flat in Brent, London: (i) (Registered 21 May 2015)

Saville Roberts, Liz (Dwyfor Meirionnydd)

1. Employment and earnings 22 May 2015, received final payment of £524.07 for my services as a Councillor for Gwynedd County Council, Cyngor Gwynedd, Stryd y Jel, Caernarfon LL55 1SH. (Registered 05 June 2015)

8. Miscellaneous Trustee, Canolfan Iaith Nant Gwrtheyrn. (Registered 05 June 2015)

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Williams, Craig (Cardiff North)

1. Employment and earnings Received payment of £764.00, on 15 May 2015, from Cardiff City Council, County Hall, Atlantic Wharf, Cardiff, CF10 4UW, for work as a Cardiff City Councillor/ Chairman Economy Scrutiny Committee between 8 May 2015 to 22 May 2015. Hours: 54 hrs. (Registered 04 June 2015)

2. (b) Any other support not included in Category 2(a) Name of donor: United and Cecil Club Address of donor: Munslow, 2nd floor, New Penderel House, 283-8 High Holborn, London WC1V 7HP Amount of donation or nature and value if donation in kind: £2,500 Date received: 1 December 2015 Date accepted: 1 December 2015 Donor status: Unincorporated association (Registered 04 June 2015)

Williams, Mark (Ceredigion)

2. (a) Support linked to an MP but received by a local party organisation or indirectly via a central party organisation Name of donor: Michael Woods Address of donor: private Amount of donation or nature and value if donation in kind: £2,500 Donor status: individual (Registered 08 June 2015) Name of donor: Tenby and District Social and Liberal Democrat Association Address of donor: Primrose Villa, Narberth Road, Tenby, SA70 8JD Amount of donation or nature and value if donation in kind: £4,000 Donor status: Unincorporated association (Registered 08 June 2015)

5 September 2016: declaration of Members’ interests

Elmore, Chris (Ogmore)

1. Employment and earnings Payments from Vale of Glamorgan County Borough Council, Civic Offices, Holton Rd, Barry CF63 4RU, for my role as a councillor representing the Castleland Ward and as Cabinet Member for children's services and schools before my election. (Registered 14 June 2016) 15 May 2016, received £2,416.67. Hours: none since the Election. (Registered 14 June 2016) 15 June 2016, received final payment of £179.83. Hours: none since the Election. (Registered 13 July 2016)

8. Miscellaneous Minor interest in a house in Caerphilly County Borough area owned by two members of my family. (Registered 06 June 2016) I am the County Borough Councillor for Castleland Ward, Barry in the Vale of Glamorgan Council. I receive no allowance for this role. (Registered 06 June 2016) I am the unpaid Chair of Barry YMCA Board of Management. (Registered 06 June 2016)

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12 December 2016: declaration of Members’ interests

Flynn, Paul (Newport West)

1. Employment and earnings Royalty payments from Biteback Publishing, 3 Albert Embankment London SE1 7SP. No additional hours. These payments are donated to charity. (Updated 05 September 2016) 22 December 2015, I received payment of £358.64. (Registered 23 February 2016) 22 June 2015, I received payment of £243.46. (Registered 01 September 2016)

Payments from ComRes, 4 Millbank, London SW1P 3JA, for completing surveys. All fees are donated to charity. (Registered 01 September 2016) 7 July 2015, payment of £75. Hours: 45 mins. (Registered 01 September 2016) 21 August 2015, payment of £75. Hours: 45 mins. (Registered 01 September 2016) 20 October 2015, payment of £75. Hours: 45 mins. (Registered 01 September 2016) 14 December 2015, payment of £75. Hours: 45 mins. (Registered 01 September 2016) 21 January 2016, payment of £75. Hours: 45 mins. (Registered 01 September 2016) 9 March 2016, payment of £50. Hours: 30 mins. (Registered 01 September 2016) 17 March 2016, payment of £40. Hours: 20 mins. (Registered 01 September 2016) 24 March 2016, payment of £75. Hours: 45 mins. (Registered 01 September 2016) 16 May 2016, payment of £100. Hours: 1 hr. (Registered 01 September 2016) 18 July 2016, payment of £75. Hours: 45 mins. (Registered 01 September 2016) 12 October 2016, payment of £75. Hours: 45 mins. (Registered 17 October 2016) 25 October 2016, payment of £75. Hours: approx. 45 mins. (Registered 02 November 2016)

Payments from Ipsos MORI, 3 Thomas More Square, London E1W 1YW, for completing surveys. All fees are donated to charity. (Registered 01 September 2016) 7 July 2015, payment of £200. Hours: 1.5 hrs. (Registered 01 September 2016) 11 January 2016, payment of £200. Hours: 1.5 hrs. (Registered 01 September 2016) 13 July 2016, payment of £200. Hours: 1.5 hrs. (Registered 01 September 2016)

Payments from YouGov, 50 Featherstone Street, London EC1Y 8RT, for completing opinion surveys: 8 January 2016, payment of £50. Hours: 30 mins. (Registered 01 December 2016) 18 February 2016, payment of £30. Hours: 20 mins. (Registered 01 December 2016) 30 March 2016, payment of £20. Hours: 15 mins. (Registered 01 December 2016) 12 May 2016, payment of £80. Hours: 45 mins. (Registered 01 December 2016) 23 June 2016, payment of £40. Hours: 25 mins. (Registered 01 December 2016) 10 August 2016, payment of £80. Hours: 45 mins. (Registered 01 December 2016) 24 November 2016, payment of £60. Hours: 35 mins. (Registered 01 December 2016)

9. Family members employed and paid from parliamentary expenses I employ my wife, Lynne Samantha Flynn, as Senior Secretary.