>> CHAIR MODUGNO: GOOD MORNING, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE

MEETING TO ORDER, LOS ANGELES REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION,

SEPTEMBER 2, 2015.WE'LL START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED

TODAY BY COMMISSIONER PEDERSEN.

>> COMMISSIONER PEDERSEN: ALL RISE, PLEASE, PUT YOUR RIGHT

HAND OVER YOUR CHEST.(PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE).

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF

AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER

GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: I'LL EXTEND MY WELCOME TO EVERYONE, THERE

ARE AGENDAS IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM, THEY'RE PINK, IF YOU HAVE

NOT PICKED ONE UP AND WOULD LIKE ONE, THEY'RE AVAILABLE.IF YOU

PLAN ON SPEAKING ON ANY ITEM ON TODAY'S AGENDA, PLEASE GET A

SIGN-IN SHEET AND COMPLETE THAT AND WE WILL HAVE A SERIES OF

PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS MORNING AND AT A CERTAIN POINT, I WILL BE

SWEARING PEOPLE IN.FIRST THING WE DO THOUGH IS APPROVAL OF THE

AGENDA.

>> SO MOVED.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: A MOTION, A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION?ALL IN

FAVOR, SAY AYE.OPPOSED?MOTION IS CARRIED.COUNTY COUNSEL, GOOD

MORNING.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: DEPUTY DIRECTOR?

>> YES, GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONER, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION

THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS GAVE FINAL APPROVAL TO THE

HISTORIC PRESERVATION ORDINANCE YESTERDAY AT THEIR BOARD MEETING

AND THAT ORDINANCE WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1, 2015.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU.OKAY.NEXT ITEM IS APPROVAL OF THE

MINUTES OF AUGUST THE 5TH.

>> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: A MOTION, A SECOND, ALL IN

FAVOR?AYE.COMMISSIONER VALADEZ, YOU WERE NOT AT THE MEETING,

WOULD YOU LIKE TO --

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> SO, PLEASE RECORD FOR ONE ABSTENTION AND THREE AYES FOR

COMMISSIONER VALADEZ, WE'LL START WITH PUBLIC HEARINGS ON

PROJECT NUMBER R201400667, MS. HIKICHI, STAFF REPORT,

PLEASE.GOOD MORNING.

>> MS. HIKICHI: GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, I'M LINDA HIKICHI

WITH THE LAND DIVISION SECTION, I'M HERE TO PRESENT AGENDA ITEM

NUMBER 6, PROJECT NUMBER R2014-00667 WHICH INCLUDES VESTING

TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 072684 DATED NOVEMBER 19, 2014 TO CREATE TWO

FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS WITH 53 CONDOMINIUM YOUTHS AND 12

12:05:18DETACHED BUILDINGS ON 3.67 GROSS ACRES WITHIN THE

GOVERNMENT COURSE.PROPOSED LOT 1 IS LOCATED EAST OF BRAMBLEBUSH

AVENUE AND WILL HAVE FOUR BUILDINGS CONSISTING OF 12 UNITS ON

1.21 GROSS ACRES, PROPOSED LOT 2 IS WEST OF BRAMBLEBUSH AVENUE

AND WILL HAVE 8 BUILDINGS CONSISTING OF 33 UNITS ON 2.24 GROSS

ACRES, THE PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING, A PLAN AMENDMENT

TO AMEND THE COUNTYWIDE GENERAL PLAN, AND A ZONE CHANGE REQUEST

TO CHANGE THE EXISTING C-3-BE AND A1 ZONES TO R3-D-P, A CUP TO

ESTABLISH THE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM ZONE AND MODIFY YOUR SETBACKS

AND HEIGHT AND A PARKING PERMIT TO ALLOW A REDUCTION OF ONE

PARKING SPACE FOR LOT ONE AND RELOCATION OF 1 REQUIRED PARKING

SPACE FROM LOT 1 TO LOT 2 AND PARALLEL SPARKING SPACE

REQUIREMENTS, THE PROPERTY CATEGORY LAND USE CATEGORY OF

[INAUDIBLE] THE PROPERTY IS ZONED C-3-BE, PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH AND EAST ARE ZONED A1 AND TO WEST ARE ZONED A1E AND

C-2-BE, THE CANDLEWOOD GOLF COURSE IS ALSO SURROUNDED BY

PROPERTIES ZONED [INAUDIBLE].THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AT 14

THOUSAND TELEGRAPH BUILDING SOUTH WHITTIER, LOT 1 IS CURRENTLY

VACANT AND LOT 2 IS CURRENTLY A PART OF THE GOLF COURSE AND

CONTAINS [INAUDIBLE] CART BARK, THE PROPERTIES SURROUNDED BY

SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, A 90 UNIT MOBILE HOME PARK, CHURCH,

APARTMENTS AND CONDOMINIUMS.THE FOLLOWING ARE PHOTOS OF THE

PROPERTY THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO THE CANDLEWOOD COUNTRY CLUB

FROM TELEGRAPH ROAD, THIS IS THE PROPOSED LOT 1 FACING TOWARDS

TELEGRAPH ROAD, THIS IS THE PROPOSED LOT 2 FROM BRAMBLEBUSH

AVENUE, THE WHITE BUILDING IS THE EXISTING 3640 SQUARE FOOT CART

[INAUDIBLE], THIS IS THE CORNER OF BRAMBLEBUSH AVENUE AND

HONEYSUCKLE LANE, THIS IS THE EXISTING [INAUDIBLE] THAT IS

PROPOSED TO BE DEMOLISHED AND THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE

[INAUDIBLE], THEY ARE PROPOSING [INAUDIBLE] TO BE [INAUDIBLE]

THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE GOLF COURSE AND THAT IS A CREEK RUNNING

ALONG ON YOUR LEFT HAND SIDE.THIS IS MORE TO HAVE GOLF COURSE

PHOTO AND THIS IS A VIEW OF THE TELEGRAPH ROAD.THIS IS THE

AERIAL OF THE CANDLEWOOD GOLF COURSE, THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL

SITE PLAN OF THE 53 UNITS DISPERSED IN THREE BUILDINGS, THIS

PROJECT ENTAILS THE DEVELOPMENT OF A CLUBHOUSE AND A RECREATION

TOTALING 3160 SQUARE FEET AND A 1680 SQUARE FOOT COMMUNITY

GARDEN, THE PROJECT ENTAILS MODIFYING THE SETBACKS, 10 FEET FOR A REAR SETBACK UNIT NUMBER 1, 12 FOOT YEAR SETBACK FOR

[INAUDIBLE] FOR THE EARN CLOSURES ALONG TELEGRAPH ROAD AND

HONEYSUCKLE LANE WITH WALL HEIGHT OF 6.5 FEET WITH A THREE AND A

QUARTER FEET OF TRESTLE COVER, WALLS WITHIN THE FRONT YARDS, THE

PROPOSED LOT 1 IS TO 34 INCHES TO A MAXIMUM [INAUDIBLE] AND

THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING A SIX FOOT WROUGHT IRON FENCE ON

HONEYSUCKLE LANE, NOW FOR PROPOSED LOT 2, THEY ARE PROPOSING A

10 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK FOR UNITS [INAUDIBLE] FOR UNIT NUMBER

26, TWO FEET YARD SETBACK FOR THE BICYCLE RACK, ENCLOSURE WITH 6

FEET WITH A THREE FEET TRELLIS COVER, AND [INAUDIBLE] TO A

MECHANICS MUM OF 16 FEET ALONG TELEGRAPH ROAD.THE PROJECT ALSO

ENTAILS A PARKING PERMIT FOR THE REDUCTION OF ONE REQUIRED GUEST

PARKING SPACE FOR LOT 1, FIVE SPACES ARE RIPER BUT THEY'RE

PROPOSING FOUR.FOR LOT 2, THEY ARE PROPOSING 14 GUEST PARKING

SPACES.THEY'RE ALSO REQUESTING A REDUCTION OF THE PARALLEL

PARKING SPACES FOR LOT 1 FROM THE REQUIREMENT 10 BY 24 TO 10 BY

22.THE NEXT SLIDE DEPICTS A PROPOSED LOCATION FOR THE TWO NEW

CAR [INAUDIBLE] AND IS DEPICTED AS THE RED OUTLINE ON THE LOWER

RIGHT-HAND SIDE.THIS IS THE STREETSCAPE ELEVATION ALONG

TELEGRAPH ROAD, WALL HEIGHTS WILL VARY FROM 6 FEET TO 16

FEET.THE RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUM UNITS WILL BE CONNECTED PUBLIC

WATER AND SEWER, THE PUBLIC PROPOSING GRADING OF 9 CUBIC YARDS

OF CUT, 3500 CUBIC YARDS OF FILL AND [INAUDIBLE] TO EITHER THE

PE WENT HILLS LAND FILL OR THE [INAUDIBLE] LANDFILL AND THESE TWO LANDFILLS ARE LOCATED WITHIN 12 MILE FROM THE PROJECT

SITE.IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED THE PROPOSED PROJECT QUALIFIES FOR A

MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION DURING THE CALIFORNIA

ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT AND THE COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL

GUIDELINES, THE INITIAL STUDY HAS FOUND HAZARDS AND HAZARDOUS

MATERIAL IN OUR RESOURCES TO BE TWO CATEGORIES OF CONCERN, THE

PORTION OF THE PROJECT SITE WEST OF THE BRAMBLEBUSH AVENUE

WITHIN PROPOSED LOT 2 WAS PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED BY A PETROLEUM OIL

WELL, IT HAS SINCE BEEN ABANDONED, THE GAS AND GEOTHERMAL

RESOURCES PROVIDED COMMENTS ON THE DRAFT INITIAL STUDY, DOGGER

AND FIRE REQUIREMENTS [INAUDIBLE] STAFF VISITED THE SITE ON

AUGUST 6, 2015, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS DULY NOTICED IN THE DAILY

NEWS AND THE DEPARTMENTAL WEBSITE, SOUTH WHITTIER LIBRARY, ON-

SITE POSTING AND VIA POSTCARD NOTICES TO 427 OWNERS WITHIN 500

FEET RADIUS OF THE CANDLEWOOD COUNTRY CLUB AND GOLF COURSE AND

TWO POSTCARD NOTICES TO THOSE ON THE COURTESY MAILING LIST FOR

THE SUNSHINE ACRES ZONED DISTRICT.AS OF THIS MORNING, STAFF HAS

RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 5 PHONE CALLS THAT AND ONE E-MAIL FROM THE

NEIGHBORS, THE NEIGHBORS HAD THE FOLLOWING CONCERNS, ONE HAD A

CONCERN ABOUT PROJECT LOCATION, ASKED ABOUT THE CONDO PRICES,

SOME HAD CONCERNS ABOUT MAKING A LEFT TURN ON TO TELEGRAPH ROAD

AND POTENTIAL TRAFFIC CONDITION ALONG BRAMBLEBUSH AVENUE.THE E-

MAIL ALSO POSED SAME CONCERNS MAKING A LEFT TURN ON TO TELEGRAPH

ROAD AND CONGESTION ON BRAMBLEBUSH, A PETITION WAS PROVIDED TO STAFF EARLIER TODAY WHICH STAFF HAS IN TURN PROVIDED TO THE

COMMISSION, STAFF IS OF THE OPINION THAT THE MULTIFAMILY

TOWNHOUSE PROJECT IS PROPOSED OVER AN UNDERUTILIZED PORTION OF

THE CANDLEWOOD GOLF COURSE AND IT WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HOUSE

IN AN URBANIZED AREA WITH EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, THE

GOVERNMENT COURSE IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES,

APARTMENT AND CONDOMINIUM UNITS, A PLAN AMENDMENT WILL ALLOW THE

DEVELOPMENT OF 53 TOWNHOUSES AND PROVIDE THE RESIDENTS WITH

ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPTIONS IN THE AREA.STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT

YOUR COMMISSION ADOPT THE MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND

APPROVE VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NUMBER 07284, CONDITIONAL

USE PERMIT NUMBER 201400028 AND PARKING PERMIT 201400009 AND

RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVAL OF GENERAL PLAN

AMENDMENT NUMBER 201400002 AND ZONE CHANGE NUMBER 201400002

SUBJECT TO THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS.THANK YOU AND STAFF IS

AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU, ANY QUESTIONS OF

STAFF?COMMISSIONER?

>> VICE CHAIR PINCETL: THANK YOU, I WAS CURIOUS, I DON'T

ACTUALLY REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TREES THAT ARE ON THE

SITE, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW TREES AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU CAN REFRESH MY MEMORY OF HOW THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO HANDLE

THAT.

>> MS. HIKICHI: THERE ARE QUITE A FEW EXISTING TREES ON

PROPOSED LOT 1, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO REMOVE THOSE AND REPLANT

THEM OR NOT REPLANT THE SAME ONES BUT PLANT TREES, THEY ARE

SUBJECT TO THE TREE PLANTING REQUIREMENT FOR ON-SITE PER THE HDO

WHICH IS FOR THE STREET FRONTAGE AS WELL AS THEY HAVE THE STREET

TREE PLANTING REQUIREMENTS FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND THEY WILL BE

REQUIRED TO PLANT THE TREES ALONG TELEGRAPH, BRAMBLEBUSH AS WELL

AS HONEYSUCKLE LANE.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?ALRIGHT.WE'LL NOW GO

AHEAD AND I WOULD LIKE TO SWEAR ANYONE IN, IN THE AUDIENCE WHO

PLANS ON SPEAKING ON THIS OR ANY ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TODAY.IF YOU

WILL PLEASE RISE AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.THIS IS SPEAKING ON

ANYTHING TODAY ON ANY AGENDA.( SWEARING-IN OF TESTIFIERS ).

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: GREAT, THANK YOU.APPLICANTS?

>> WE HAVE A TOTAL OF TWO SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM, THE

APPLICANT AND A NEIGHBOR, ANNA LISA ARMANINO.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: GOOD MORNING, SO IF YOU'LL TAKE A SEAT,

YOU'VE BEEN SWORN IN, THERE'S A CLOCK IN FRONT OF YOU, AS THE

APPLICANT, YOU'LL BE PROVIDED WITH 15 MINUTES IF YOU NEED THAT

MUCH TIME OR IF YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS OR IF YOU WANT TO

SPEAK ON CONDITIONS, BUT YOU HAVE 15 MINUTES.ONCE YOU STATE YOUR

NAME, THE LIGHTS IN FRONT OF YOU ON THAT LITTLE CLOCK WILL COME

ON, THERE WILL BE A GREEN LIGHT, AFTER 14 AND A HALF MINUTES, AN

AMBER LIGHT WILL COME UP, IN 15 MINUTES, A RED LIGHT WILL COME

ON AND WE'LL ASK THAT YOU CONCLUDE YOUR REMARKS AT THAT POINT IN

TIME.IF THERE'S OTHER SPEAKERS SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THE

PROJECT, THEY WILL BE PROVIDED WITH THREE MINUTES TO THE PUBLIC

AND AT THE CONCLUSION, YOU'LL HAVE A 10 MINUTE REBUTTAL PERIOD

IF YOU NEED REBUTTAL.IF THERE'S NO OPPOSITION, YOUR TESTIMONY

AFTER 15 MINUTES WILL STAND, SO YOU MAY BEGIN WITH YOUR NAME.

>> THANK YOU, HONORABLE CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, MY

NAME IS ANNA LISA ARMANINO, PROJECT MAN FOR BRANDON HOMES,

[INAUDIBLE] IN IRVINE, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO ADDRESS THE

COMMISSION.WE REALLY WANT TO FIRST TAKE A MOMENT AND THANK

STAFF.LINDA HIKICHI AND JULIE MOORE, EVERYBODY HAS BEEN SO

HELPFUL AND DILIGENT, WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S HARD

WORK.SECOND, I WANTED TO TOUCH BRIEFLY ABOUT BRANDYWINE HOMES,

BRANDYWINE HOMES HAS BEEN AROUND FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS, WE'RE A

SMALL FAMILY BUSINESS, WE SPECIALIZE IN INFILL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.WE TAKE A VERY GRASS ROOTS APPROACH TOWARDS

ENTITLEMENTS.IT'S WHAT I BELIEVE IS OUR STRENGTHS, WE STARTED

WORKING ON THIS PROJECT IN 2012, FIRST OUTREACHING TO THE

WHITTIER SOUTH COMMUNITY AND THAT WAS WELL BEFORE FILING THE

APPLICATIONS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO GET COMMENTS AND INPUT AND

SUPPORT.WE BELIEVE THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT WE DO

ESPECIALLY IN INFILL CONDITIONS.WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS

PROJECT.THERE HASN'T BEEN A CONDOMINIUM PROJECT IN THIS PART OF

THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN MORE THAN 20 YEARS.THE MAJORITY OF THE

HOUSING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD RANGES 20-60 YEARS OLE.WE BELIEVE

THAT WE WILL PROVIDE A REALLY VALUABLE NEW HOUSING RESOURCE

BUILT THE LATEST, CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS, HIGHLY

EFFICIENT, APPLIANCES AND RESOURCES SO WE THINK IT WILL BE A

VALUABLE ASSET TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.WE BELIEVE THAT OUR BUYERS

TOO ARE -- WE'RE GOING TO FILL A GAP IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, EMPTY

NESTERS, PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MOVE DOWN FROM LARGER LOTS INTO

SMALLER LOTS, YOUNG COUPLES, YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, YOUNG SMALL

FAMILIES SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED.ALSO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE

FACT THAT WE'RE PARTNERING WITH CANDLEWOOD COUNTRY CLUB, THEY

HAVE ALMOST A 100 YEAR HISTORY IN THIS COMMUNITY.IT HAS BEEN A

LIFE FORCE FOR MANY COMMUNITY EVENTS AND WE'RE DEVELOPING A

PORTION OF THE GOLF COURSE THAT ARE IN ESSENCE SURPLUS

12:18:44LAND.IT ISN'T USED, IT ISN'T USED FOR ACTIVE RECREATION,

SO WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S A GREAT PARTNERSHIP.WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE BRIAN THEMUS, HE IS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM

CANDLEWOOD GOLF COURSE AND HE WILL ONLY SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY IF

THAT IS OKAY.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: WELCOME, IF YOU WILL START WITH THE

STATEMENT OF YOUR NAME AND THE CLOCK WILL CONTINUE.

>> HELLO, MY NAME IS BRIAN THEMUS, I AM A BOARD MEMBER OF

CANDLEWOOD COUNTRY CLUB, I LIVE IN HUNTINGTON BEACH, CALIFORNIA

AND I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF CANDLEWOOD FOR ALMOST 25 YEARS.I

DON'T KNOW IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE I'M THAT OLD, HUH?CANDLEWOOD

COUNTRY CLUB HAD MADE A DECISION PROBABLY ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE

YEARS AGO TO INTERVIEW DEVELOPERS TO DEVELOP SOME EXCESS LAND

THAT WE'VE OWNED THAT'S JUST BEEN SITTING VACANT FOR FOREVER,

EVER SIPS THE CLUB HAS STARTED, IT'S BEEN VACANT, UNUSED LAND,

IT'S EXPENSIVE FOR OUR CLUB TO MAINTAIN AND WE DECIDED TO

INTERVIEW PROBABLY HALF A DOZEN DEVELOPERS TO ENTER INTO AN

AGREEMENT TO PURCHASE THE LAND FOR POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT

OPPORTUNITIES.WE SELECTED BRANDYWINE AS OUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNER

BECAUSE OF THEIR LONGSTANDING SUCCESS IN THE COMMUNITY, ALL THE

PROJECTS WE LOOKED AT APPEARED TO BE HIGH QUALITY, WELL THOUGHT

DEVELOPMENT, AND WE THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT FOR OUR CLUB

BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE ENTRANCE OF OUR COUNTRY CLUB, SO WE

WENT AROUND AND AROUND TRYING TO MOVE THE UNITS AROUND AND GET THEM TO WHERE WE THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE AN ENHANCEMENT TO THE

ENTRANCE OF OUR CLUB, AND SO WE FINALLY ARRIVED ON A SITE PLAN

AND HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND I

THINK WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE ABOUT THE PROJECT.WE THINK THAT

IT'S GOING TO BE AN ENHANCEMENT TO COMMUNITY, AN ENHANCEMENT TO

THE APPEARANCE OF OUR CLUB, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE WELL

MAINTAINED ASSOCIATION TYPE LANDSCAPING AT THE ENTRANCE OF OUR

CLUB AND OF COURSE THE INJECTION OF CASH TO OUR CLUB WILL ALSO

BE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN OUR OWN RENOVATION PROJECT WHERE WE

WOULD LIKE TO IMPROVE OUR BANQUET FACILITIES AND OUR CLUBHOUSE

TO ATTRACT MORE OUTSIDE VISITORS TO THE CLUB WHICH I THINK IS

IMPORTANT TO THE ONGOING SURVIVE OF THE COUNTRY CLUB WHICH GOLF

INDUSTRIES ARE SUFFERING THESE DAYS AND WE THINK THIS IS GOING

TO BE A PERFECT COMBINATION OF IMPROVING OUR APPEARANCE AND

PROVIDING THE NECESSARY CAPITAL THROUGH THE LAND SALE TO IMPROVE

OUR FACILITIES TO KEEP IT GOING BECAUSE WE THINK IT'S A

SIGNIFICANT RESOURCE FOR THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS

DONE WHATEVER I CAN TO TRY TO HELP THE SURVIVAL OF THE CLUB AND

THIS IS DEFINITELY A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR US I

BELIEVE AND WE SUPPORT THE PROJECT AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THE

PROJECT AND I OWN A CIVIL ENGINEERING FIRM, I DO A LOT OF WORK

IN L.A. COUNTY AND I THINK BRANDYWINE SO FAR HAS DONE A VERY

GOOD PROFESSIONAL, DILIGENT JOB WITH THEIR ENTITLEMENTS AND

THEIR DESIGN OF THE PROJECT AND I'M ACTUALLY QUITE IMPRESSED.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU, ANY QUESTIONS?COMMISSIONER

PEDERSEN?

>> COMMISSIONER PEDERSEN: WE RECEIVED A LETTER WITH SIGNATURES

OF TEN HOMES ON HONEYSUCKLE ASKING ABOUT THE LEFT HAND TURN OUT

OF BRAMBLEBUSH AVENUE UNDER TELEGRAPH AND IX THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT

UP IN A NUMBER OF YOUR MEETINGS THAT YOU'VE HAD.IS THAT THE ONLY

INGRESS/EGRESS FOR THE HOMES, IS THAT ONE STREET COMING OUT?

>> COMMISSIONER PEDERSEN, YES, IT IS, IT'S THE PRIME ENTRANCE IN

AND OUT OF THE PROJECT AND WE COLLABORATED WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS

DEPARTMENT AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT

TO MAKE SURE IT WORKED FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT.

>> COMMISSIONER PEDERSEN: SO, AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC THERE, IS

THERE -- THERE IS NO DIFFICULTY MAKING LEFT HAND TURNS OUT OF

THAT -- OUT OF THE PROJECT?

>> WE -- THERE IS SOME CHALLENGES.IT IS -- TELEGRAPH ROAD IS A

MAJOR SIX LANE ROAD, LEFT TURN MOVEMENTS IN AND OUT OF THE

PROPERTY AND IN THE GENERAL AREA IS CHALLENGING, HOWEVER, IN OUR

ANALYSIS AT THE INTERSECTION, IT DIDN'T WARRANT COMPLETE -- IT

DIDN'T TRIP ANY THRESHOLDS THAT WE TRIGGER ADDITIONAL MITIGATION, HOWEVER, THAT BEING IN MIND, WE DID MOVE FORWARD

WITH ANALYZING HOW TO INCREASE THE FLOW AT THE ENTRANCE AND WE

WOULD LIKE TO -- ALTHOUGH WE'RE NOT CONDITIONED AT THIS POINT TO

FURTHER STUDY IT, WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND

COMPLETE AN ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS AND SEE IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL

MITIGATION THAT WE CAN DO TO RELIEVE SOME OF THE STRAIN AT THE

INTERSECTION.

>> COMMISSIONER PEDERSEN: IT'S A GOOD PROJECT AND I'M VERY

SUPPORTIVE OF IT, IT'S JUST THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTION THAT’S

BEEN RAISED BY A NUMBER OF THE NEIGHBORS.

>> IF I COULD INTERJECT, YEAH, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT

REQUIRES A TRAFFIC WARRANT STUDY IF YOU WANT TO INSTALL A SIGNAL

AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC TRIP, THEY DON'T WANT A SIGNAL

TO MAINTAIN AND I THINK A SIGNAL WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.IT'S JUST

NOT POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THEIR WARRANT ANALYSIS REQUIREMENTS.WHAT

PEOPLE DO AT THAT INTERSECTION IS THEY MAKE A RIGHT TURN AND

THEN THEY MAKE A U-TURN JUST BECAUSE IT'S EASIER TO NEGOTIATE,

SO AS PART OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, THERE NOW IS A LEFT

TURN POCKET.IN THE PAST, WELL, RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR

SOMEBODY TO MAKE A LEFT TURN, YOU KNOW, UNLESS YOU CAN JUST

SQUEEZE BY THEM, THERE'S ONLY REALLY ONE TRUE LANE GOING OUT, NOW THERE WILL BE A LEFT TURN POCKET SO PEOPLE WHO WANT TO JUST

MAKE THE RIGHT TURN CAN MAKE THE RIGHT TURN, BUT --

>>

>> COMMISSIONER PEDERSEN: PUBLIC WORK, DID YOU MAKE AN

ANALYSIS ON THIS PROJECT AS FAR AS WHETHER A TRAFFIC SIGNAL

WOULD BE WARRANTED OR NOT

>> COMMISSIONER PEDERSEN, YES, THEY DID SUBMIT A TRAFFIC STUDY,

ALTHOUGH THE TRADITIONAL GENERATION DIDN'T WARRANT A TRAFFIC

STUDY, THEY SUBMITTED A STUDY TO US.PART OF THE STUDY WAS A

SIGNAL WARRANT ANALYSIS, THE SIGNAL ANALYSIS WAS FOR PEAK

TRAFFIC ONLY, SO PART OF THE DISCUSSION IS HAVING EARLIER WITH

THE APPLICANT IS WHETHER THEY COULD COME BACK AND WORK WITH US

TO ANALYZE DIFFERENT SCHEMES TO TRY TO ALLEVIATE THAT CONCERN

FROM THE INTERSECTION DESIGN STANDPOINT, THE OTHER THING OUR

TRAFFIC ENGINEERS RECOMMENDED IS THAT PART OF THE ANALYSIS WAS

EVEN THOUGH IT INCLUDED THE SIGNAL WARRANT ANALYSIS, IT WAS A

POINT OF MANY FACTORS THAT NEEDS TO BE ANALYZED AND WHAT WE'D

LIKE TO DO IS TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO

LOOK AT THE OTHER FACTORS FOR THE SIGNAL WARRANT ANALYSIS TO

MAKE SURE ALL OF THE BASES ARE COVERED SO THEREFORE WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT A CONDITION IN THERE THAT REQUIRES THE APPLICANT TO

COME BACK AND WORK WITH US TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.

>> COMMISSIONER PEDERSEN: OKAY, FINE.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: FURTHER QUESTIONS?

>> COMMISSIONER PEDERSEN: JUST ONE OTHER ONE.I THINK IT'S ON

THE EAST SIDE, THERE'S A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE THERE THAT KIND

OF ABUTS THE PROJECT.WHAT'S THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE END OF THE

PROJECT LINE AND THAT ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.

>> THE FACE ON THE EAST SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY LINE, IT'S A

MINIMUM OF 20 FOOT SETBACK TO THE WALL.

>> COMMISSIONER PEDERSEN: OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> WE FELT VERY STRONGLY ALSO THAT THERE SHOULD BE MORE BUFFER

SO WE PUT AS MUCH AS WE COULD.

>> COMMISSIONER PEDERSEN: THANK YOU.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: ANY FURTHER QUESTION, OTHER SPEAKERS?

>> YES, WE HAVE ONE MR. SPEAKER, NOAH RODRIGUEZ.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: IF YOU COULD VACATE YOUR SEATS AND MR.

RODRIGUEZ WILL COME FORWARD.

>> AND THAT IS THE LAST SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: OKAY.GOOD MORNING, YOU'LL HAVE THREE

MINUTES, SO AGAIN, SORT OF THE SAME THING, JUST STATE YOUR NAME,

THE CLOCK WILL TURN GREEN, AFTER TWO AND A HALF MINUTES, IT WILL

TURN AMBER AND AT THREE MINUTES, IT WILL TURN RED, SO IF YOU CAN

CONFINE YOUR TESTIMONY TO THREE MINUTES, WE WOULD APPRECIATE

IT.NAME PLEASE.

>> MY NAME IS NOAH RODRIGUEZ, I READ ABOUT THIS LAST NIGHT AND

BRIEFLY WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING ON THE SURFACE, A LOT OF THINGS

STOOD OUT TO ME SO I WROTE SOMETHING TODAY.THIS PROJECT IS

PRESENTED AS A SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY BUT PROVIDES MULTIFAMILY

HOMES IN ACCORDANCE TO THE GENERAL PLAN HOUSING GOALS,

UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S NO SUBSTANCE TO THE BURDEN OF PROOF

PROVIDED ON THE WEBSITE BY BRANDYWINE HOMES, THE BURDEN OF PROOF

IS -- IS CONTRADICTED TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT IT'S

PROVIDED.THE FLOOR PLAN IMPACTS AND ALREADY DANGEROUS

INTERSECTION AND THAT HAS BEEN OVERLOOKED IN PREVIOUS PROJECTS, SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PAPER WORK IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW

ALONG.STARTING ON PAGE 2, AFTER THE LIST, SELECTED GENERAL

HOUSING GOALS, THE BURDEN OF PROOF LISTS LOCAL RESOURCES THAT

HAVE BEEN BUILT IN THE LAST 40 YEARS AND THERE HAVE BEEN NO

RECENT HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS OR LISTED RESOURCES INCLUDES HOUSING

AND COMMUNITY FACILITIES THAT WERE BUILT IN THE 50'S, NOT WITHIN

40 YEARS.SO, NOTHING SPECIFIC FOR 40 YEARS.ON TOP OF PAGE 3, IT

ALSO MENTIONS THERE'S NO CONDOMINIUM OR TOWN HOMES AVAILABLE IN

THE VICINITY.AND THEN IT GOES ON TO MENTION ON PAGE 6 THAT THERE

ARE SOME WITHIN IT IN ORDER TO PROVE THEIR POINT THAT SOMETHING

IS DONE IN THE AREA.IT MAKES REFERENCE THAT THIS CLAIM WILL

IMPROVE THE STREET SCENE ALONG TELEGRAPH AND BRAMBLEBUSH, AND

ALSO THAT IT COULD POSSIBLY RAISE THE PROPERTY VALUES OF THE

AREA BUT THEN IN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, IT ASKS FOR A

PERMIT TO CREATE BLOCK WALLS THAT EXCEED 6 FEET SO I DON'T KNOW

HOW THAT WILL BE -- IMPROVE THE STREET SCENE.I'M SORRY, I'M A

LITTLE NERVOUS.THE CLAIMS ARE SUBJECTIVE AND I DON'T THINK THEY

SHOULD BE LISTED IN THE BURDEN OF PROOF.THEN -- ALSO AS WE

MENTIONED, THE EXIT FROM BRAMBLEBUSH, WHAT'S NOT NOTICED OR

WASN'T MENTIONED HERE IS TO THE LEFT, YOUR VIEW IS BLOCKED

BECAUSE IT'S ON A HILL, ON TO THE 12:32:05RIGHT, YOU HAVE A

BEAUTIFUL [INAUDIBLE] PROJECT WHERE THE BUSHES ARE ALLOWED TO

GROW UP SO YOU'RE BLIND ON BOTH SIDES AND THE OTHER PROJECT

WHICH EXITS ON TO TELEGRAPH, IT MAKES THE U-TURN IN THAT SAME SPOT.YOU HAVE THREE OR FOUR THINGS THAT IMPACT THAT AND IT ASKS

THE ENVIRONMENTAL THING IF THERE'S CUMULATIVE THINGS THAT IMPACT

IT AND THAT WAS OVERLOOKED.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: OKAY, THANK YOU, THANKS VERY MUCH.THE

APPLICANT -- IF YOU STEP FORWARD, YOU HAVE A REBUTTAL PERIOD, DO

YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON HIS COMMENT, JUST STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE

RECORD.

>> THANK YOU, IN RESPONSE TO --.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN, PLEASE.

>> ANNA LISA, BRANDYWINE HOME, IN RESPONSE TO MR. RODRIGUEZ'S

COMMENTS REGARDING THE BURDEN OF PROOF, WE LOOKED AT THE BURDEN

OF PROOF AT LENGTH WITH OUR DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT TEAM, TRUE,

OUR DESIGN IS SUBJECTIVE, HOWEVER, THIS TRADITIONAL SPANISH

ARCHITECTURAL STYLE BUFFERED ON THREE EDGES WITH OPEN SPACE, WE

BELIEVE WILL BE A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE TELEGRAPH ROAD

STREETSCAPE, IT WILL BE A BRAND NEW CONSTRUCTION, VERY ENERGY

EFFICIENT, WE ARE ACTUALLY INCLUDING A COMMUNITY GARDEN WITHIN

THE DEVELOPMENT AREA.WE CHOSE NOT TO DO A BIG SHINY POOL, WE

DECIDED TO DO SOMETHING WHERE -- A RESOURCE WHERE THE NEIGHBORS

COULD GATHER TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, GROW VEGETABLES, ENJOY EACH OTHER'S COMPANY AND BE ABLE TO ENJOY THAT AS A RECREATION ASIDE

FROM THE GOLF COURSE USE, SO WE BELIEVE AT THIS POINT THAT WE

ARE CONSISTENT AND COMPLY WITH THE CODES OF L.A. COUNTY, WE

REVIEWED ALL OF THE STAFF REPORTS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, WE

ACCEPT THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND WE ALSO ACCEPT THE

ADDITIONAL CONDITION FROM PUBLIC WORKS REGARDING ADDITIONAL

TRAFFIC ANALYSIS TO IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL MITIGATION TO RELIEVE

THE BRAMBLEBUSH/TELEGRAPH INTERSECTION, AND WITH THAT, IF YOU

HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ARE THERE OTHER

QUESTIONS?ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.DISCUSSION, INTERACTION?

>> COMMISSIONER PEDERSEN: I WOULD LIKE TO READ A MOTION, MR.

CHAIR.I MOVE THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION CLOSE THE PUBLIC

HEARING AND ADOPT THE MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION PURSUANT TO

STATE AND CEQA GUIDELINES.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: A MOTION, A SECOND, DISCUSSION?ALL IN FAVOR,

SAY AYE.

>> AYE.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THE MOTION IS CARRIED.

>> COMMISSIONER PEDERSEN: I MOVE THE REGIONAL PLANNING

COMMISSION APPROVE VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 072684 AND

CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 201400028 AND PARKING PERMIT

NUMBER 201400009 AND RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THAT

APPROVAL OF GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NUMBER 20140002 AND ZONE

CHANGE NUMBER 201400002 SUBJECT TO THE ATTACHED FINDINGS AND

CONDITIONS AND THE CONDITIONS ARE TO BE AMENDED THAT THERE'S

GOING TO BE FURTHER STUDY BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND PUBLIC WORKS

OF THE BRAMBLEBUSH AND TELEGRAPH ROAD TO SEE IF FURTHER

MITIGATION IS WARRANTED.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: I HAVE A MOTION, DO I HAVE A SECOND?A

MOTION, A SECOND, DISCUSSION?ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

>> AYE.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: OPPOSED?MOTION UNANIMOUSLY CARRIED.WE WILL

NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7.THIS IS PROJECT NUMBER

R201202978, STAFF REPORT?

>> MS. CHI: GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE

12:36:42COMMISSION, MY NAME IS IRISH CHI FROM ZONING PERMIT'S

NORTH SECTION.THE APPLICANT RESIDENTIAL FUND 1347 LLC IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE CONTINUED OPERATION

AND MAINTENANCE OF A 94 UNIT MOBILE HOME PARK IN THE CASTAIC

CANYON ZONED DISTRICT, THE MOBILE HOME PARK IS LOCATED AT 36200

PARADISE RANCH ROAD, CASTAIC.THE MOBILE HOME PARK MAINTAINS THE

ZONE R-R DP THAT WAS ADOPTED THROUGH A ZONE CHANGE IN 2002.THE

APPLICATION FOR THIS PROJECT WAS FILED BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE DATE

OF THE 2012 SANTA CLARITA VALLEY AREA PLAN.THE PROPERTY IS

ALLOWED TO MAINTAIN A ZONE THAT WAS ESTABLISHED PRIOR TO THE

2012 AREA PLAN, THE 2012 AREA PLAN CHANGED THE ZONE FOR THIS

PROPERTY FROM R-R DP TO A-2-2, BUT THIS UPDATE WILL NOT APPLY TO

THE SUBJECT PROJECT FOR THIS REQUEST.THE PARCEL IS CURRENTLY A

MOBILE HOME PARK, THE SURROUNDING PARCELS ARE VACANT, THE

PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE U2 URBAN 2 LAND USE CATEGORY

OF THE 1984 SANTA CLARITA VALLEY AREA PLAN.THIS APPLICATION

SINCE IT WAS FILED PRIOR TO THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE 2012 AREA

PLAN, IT WILL BE USING THE 1984 DESIGNATION.THE PROJECT IS

LOCATED IN A RURAL AREA THAT IS ADJACENT TO THE FREEWAY AND IS

SURROUNDED BY THE NATIONAL FOREST.THE APPLICANT OWNS 318 ACRES

AT THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND THOSE PROPERTIES ARE NOT

DEVELOPED.THERE ARE NO OTHER ESTABLISHED LAND USES WITHIN A

THOUSAND FEET FROM THE MOBILE HOME PARK.THE REMOTENESS OF THE

PARCEL ALLOWS FOR THE MOBILE HOME PARK TO FEEL LESS DENSE WITH

THE EXISTING 94 UNITS.THERE ARE SEVERAL UTILITY EASEMENTS THAT

RUN THROUGH THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE MOBILE HOME PARK IS OUTSIDE OF ANY ACTIVE EASEMENTS.A NEW WATER WELL, WELL NUMBER 18

FOR THE MOBILE HOME PARK WAS DRILLED IN THE ADJACENT PARCEL, A

COVENANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO HOLD THE SUBJECT PARCEL AND THE

NEIGHBORING PARCELS AS ONE PARCEL TO MAINTAIN ACCESS TO THE NEW

WATER WELL.THE SITE PLAN FOR THE PROJECT DEPICTS AN EXISTING 94

UNIT MOBILE HOME PARK, IT'S LOCATED ON A 21 ACRE PARCEL.AT THE

CENTER OF THE MOBILE HOME PARK IS AN EXISTING RECREATION CENTER

AND A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT OFFICE.THE RECREATION CENTER INCLUDES

A CLUBHOUSE WITH VARIOUS MEETING ROOM, BARK QUEUE AREA, KITCHEN,

RESTROOM, SHUFFLE BOARD AREA AND A SWIMMING POOL.THE MANAGEMENT

OFFICE SUPPORTS TWO FULL TIME PROPERTY MANAGEMENT STAFF AND A

MAINTENANCE WORK ROOM.A MINIMUM OF TWO RESIDENT PARKING SPACES

FOR EACH MOBILE HOME SITE FOR A TOTAL OF 188 SPACES AND A

MINIMUM OF ONE GUEST PARKING SPACE FOR FOUR MOBILE HOME SITES

WHICH WILL BE 24 SPACES ARE PROVIDED.ALL EXISTING RESIDENT

PARKING IS PROVIDED ADJACENT TO EACH MOBILE HOME UNIT AND ALL

GUEST PARKING IS EVENLY DISPERSED THROUGH THE PARK.THERE WILL BE

NO EXISTING OAK TREES ON THE PROPERTY AND THERE ARE NO PROPOSED

CHANGES [INAUDIBLE], A CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION CLASS 1 EXISTING

FACILITIES IS THE APPROPRIATE VIRTUAL DOCUMENTATION UNDER THE

CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL ACT REPORTING REQUIREMENTS.STAFF IS OF

THE OPINION THAT THE BURDEN OF PROOF REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN

SATISFIED.BEFORE YOU, YOU WILL SEE A MEMO SUBMITTED BY STAFF

YESTERDAY, THE MEMO CONTAINS A REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE OF THIS ITEM FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWO MONTHS TO RESOLVE A WATER WELL ISSUE

IN ORDER TO AVOID HAVING THE PARCELS BEING TIED TOGETHER.STAFF

RECOMMENDS MAYBE CONTINUING THE ITEM FOR ADDITIONAL TWO AND A

HALF MONTHS INSTEAD OF THE REQUESTED TWO MONTHS AND STAFF ALSO

SUBMITTED AN E-MAIL FROM JOHN KUNAK, MEMBER OF THE CASTAIC AREA

TOWN COUNCIL, STAFF RECEIVED AN E-MAIL ON SEPTEMBER 1, 2015, MR.

KUNAK STATE IT IS CASTAIC AREA TOWN COUNCIL VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO

SUPPORT THE PROJECT.IN ADDITION TO MR. KUNAK'S E-MAIL, STAFF

WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT AN UPDATED PHOTO EXHIBIT, THE PREVIOUSLY

EXHIBIT PHOTO MENTIONED A PROPOSAL FOR NEW UNITS, THIS PHOTO WAS

LABELED INCORRECTLY AND THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A CORRECTED

VERSION IN FRONT OF YOU.AND SO I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANT TO OPEN

UP THE ITEM, BUT WE ARE REQUESTING FOR A CONTINUANCE OF THIS

ITEM.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: LET ME JUST ASK A QUESTION, THERE'S NO

OPPOSITION TO PROJECT, THE TOWN COUNCIL IS SUPPORTIVE OF IT, IS

THERE A TECHNICAL REASON THAT THE CONTINUANCE NEEDS TO MOVE

FORWARD OR COULD WE NOT TAKE ACTION TODAY WITH A CONDITION THAT

WOULD ACCOMMODATE WHATEVER MIGHT TAKE PLACE?I DON'T KNOW THE

MAGNITUDE OF THE REQUEST, WITH THE WATER WELL ISSUE, AGAIN,

WE'VE GOT A TOWN COUNCIL SUPPORT, THE APPLICANT'S PRESENT, WE'VE

HAD NO REQUESTS -- NO OPPOSITIONS TO US, SO I'M NOT SURE AGAIN

IF THERE'S A REASON FOR A CONTINUANCE THAT SOMETHING WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION OR IF IT COULDN'T BE PROPERLY

CONDITIONED TO RESOLVE THAT MATTER.

>> MS. CHI: I SEE.OUR COMMON PRACTICE IS TO -- IF THERE IS

ANOTHER USE SUCH AS THE WATER WELL THAT IS ON AN ADJACENT

PARCEL, OUR COMMON PRACTICE IS TO TIE THE PARCELS TOGETHER, THAT

WAY IN THE FUTURE, THE APPLICANT DOESN'T SELL OFF THAT PARCEL

WITH THE WATER WELL, YOU KNOW, CONNECTED TO THE MOBILE HOME

PARK, SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY THEY WANT THE CONTINUANCE BECAUSE

THEY WANT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO RESOLVE THE WATER WELL ISSUE,

PERHAPS MAYBE GETTING PUBLIC HEALTH TO DECLARE THAT THE EXISTING

WELLS ON-SITE ARE SUFFICIENT ENOUGH AND NOT HAVING TO USE THE

WATER WELL ON THE ADJACENT PARCEL, SO THEY JUST NEED SOME TIME

TO FIGURE ALL THAT OUT.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: SO, BASICALLY THEN, IF THERE IS INSUFFICIENT

WATER ON THE WELL THAT SERVES THIS, THEN CLEARLY THE OTHER

PARCEL COULD NOT DRAW FROM THAT WELL, SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE

TRYING TO DO IS PLACE THAT TYPE OF CONDITION?

>> MS. CHI: MAYBE WE COULD ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME UP AND

DISCUSS THEIR REASONS AS WELL.BUT THAT'S JUST WHAT THEY TOLD ME,

THEY JUST DO NOT WANT TO TIE THE PARCELS TOGETHER.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: AND THAT'S WHAT STAFF WAS REQUESTING AT THIS

POINT IN TIME?

>> MS. CHI: YES, I THINK IF WE COULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE

TIME TO SATISFY EVERYONE'S REQUESTS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A

GOOD IDEA.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THAT DOES SOUND SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH IN TERMS

OF THE PARCEL -- OKAY, THANK YOU.I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THERE

WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PUT SOMETHING A SIMPLE CONDITION

TO RESOLVE IT, THAT STAFF COULD HAVE WORKED THAT OUT, BUT THAT

MIGHT BECOME AN ISSUE THEN WITH THE APPLICANT.THE APPLICANT'S

PRESENT?

>> YES, WE DO HAVE LISA ARM HERE, AND LISA DID INDICATE SHE ONLY

WISHES TO SPEAK IF THE ITEM IS NOT CONTINUED.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: ALRIGHT, THEN I WILL GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT A

MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS.DO WE HAVE A DATE CERTAIN?

>> YES, WE SUGGEST NOVEMBER 18TH.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: CAN I HAVE A MOTION.

>> SO MOVED.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: I HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE ITEM TO

NOVEMBER 18TH, A DATE CERTAIN.DO I HAVE A SECOND?OKAY, ALL IN

FAVOR, SAY AYE.

>> AYE.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THIS ITEM WILL BE CONTINUED TO NOVEMBER THE

18TH, 2015.

>> THANK YOU.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: WE'LL NOW MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 8 ON THE

AGENDA AND THIS IS PROJECT NUMBER R201303567 IN THE SECOND

DISTRICT, MR. TEMPLE, STAFF REPORT, PLEASE.

>> MR. TEMPLE: THANK YOU, GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE

COMMISSION, MY NAME IS SHAWN TEMPLE AND I'M A REGIONAL PLANNER

IN THE ZONING PERMIT'S WEST SECTION.THE APPLICANT TODAY,

MICHELLE LEE IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE

THE CONTINUED USE OF A 2.25 ACRE PARCEL FOR THE PARKING OF

COMMERCIAL VEHICLES ALONG WITH THEIR TRAILERS, CONTAINERS AND

VEHICLES TO BE TRANSPORTED.THE FOLLOWING PHOTOGRAPHS ON THE CENTER SCREEN SHOW HOW THE PARCEL IS BEING USED RIGHT NOW AND

THIS IS HOW IT'S BEING PROPOSED TO BE USED WITH THIS PERMIT.THE

VEHICLE IS USED PRIMARILY FOR THE PARKING OF THE COMMERCIAL

VEHICLES, THERE IS NOT LOADING OR UNLOADING FROM THE GOODS

WITHIN THOSE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, IT'S PRIMARILY JUST A STORAGE

PLACE FOR THE VEHICLES BEFORE THEY GO TO GET GOODS OR TO

TRANSPORT GOODS.THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA OF

WEST RANCHO DOM MIN GOES WHERE THIS WOULD NORMALLY BE BY RIGHT,

BUT WHERE IT IS LOCATED NEAR RESIDENTIAL UNITS, IT REQUIRES A

CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE WEST RANCHOS VICTORIA COMMUNITY

STANDARDS DISTRICT.THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED M-1, LIGHT

MANUFACTURING, AND THERE IS A 50 FOOT BUFFER STRIP WHICH IS A B1

ZONE ALONG THE EAST END OF THE PROPERTY THAT ABUTS THE R-1 ZONE

RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.BUFFER ZONES ARE TRADITIONALLY RESERVED

FOR PARKING, VEHICLE CIRCULATION AND LANDSCAPING.IN 1970 PLOT

PLAN 218 APPROVED PARKING WITHIN THE BUFFER STRIP.AS PART OF THE

INDUSTRIAL TO RESIDENTIAL TRANSITION, CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE

LOOKING FOR AS PART OF THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WE ARE

HAVING -- IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE CENTER SCREEN, THE SITE PLAN,

THE RESIDENTIAL AREA ON THE TOP PART, THERE'S A LAYER OF

LANDSCAPED AREA THAT WILL HAVE U PINE TREES LOCATED EVERY 10

FEET, THEY'RE 15 GALLON TREES,, THERE WILL BE A WALL BEHIND

THOSE TREES, THERE'S A 15 FOOT METAL WALL FOR SCREENING AND THEN

A 6 FOOT CONCRETE MASONRY WALL WHICH WILL BE USED FOR ADDITIONAL NOISE MITIGATION MEANINGS, ONCE THOSE TREES MATURE, THEY'LL

PROVIDE ADDITIONAL NOISE MITIGATION AND ALSO ESTHETICALLY

CONSUME IT FROM THE YARD FROM NEIGHBORS FROM THAT PROPERTY.THE

PARKING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WHICH IS CIRCLED IN

PURPLE ON THE SITE PLAN WILL BE CONDITIONED TO ONLY BE USED

DURING THE WORK WEEK AND NOT AFTER 6 P.M. AND NOT 12:48:25DURING

THE WEEKENDS, SO IT'S NOT TO HAVE ANY SORT OF IMPACT ON THE

NEIGHBORS DURING THE TRADITIONAL NON-WORKING HOURS.STAFF IS OF

THE OPINION THAT THE CONTINUED USE OF THE PROPERTY FOR THE

PARKING OF COMMERCIAL VEHICLES IS PROPERLY CONDITIONED FOR ITS

LOCATION ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AND WILL NOT ADVERSELY

AFFECT THE SURROUNDING AREA.THE PROJECT IS APPROPRIATELY LOCATED

ON A DESIGNATED TRUCKING ROUTE WITHIN AN INDUSTRIAL CLUSTERED

LAND USE AIR & MEETS SEVERAL POLICIES OF THE INDUSTRIAL PLAN

WITH THE PRESERVATION OF INDUSTRIAL USES AND THE JOBS THEY

PROVIDE WHILE MAINTAINING APPROPRIATE TRANSITION TO RESIDENTIAL

USES.WE HAVE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC DURING THE

NOTIFICATION PERIOD FOR THIS HEARING AND THE DEPARTMENT HAS

DETERMINED THAT THIS PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT UNDER CEQA

REPORTING REQUIREMENTS AND QUALIFIES FOR BOTH A CLASS 1 EXISTING

FACILITIES AND A CLASS 3 NEW CONSTRUCTION OF SMALL STRUCTURES,

CATEGORICAL EXEMPTIONS.FINALLY, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF

CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 201300181 WITH ATTACHED CONDITIONS.THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.THANK

YOU.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?ALRIGHT, GREAT, THANK

YOU.SPEAKERS?

>> YES, WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS, CHARLES SANTOS AND STEVEN RAYAS,

BOTH WITH THE APPLICANT.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: IF YOU WILL BOTH COME FORWARD, THERE'S TWO

SEATS.AS WITH PREVIOUS CASES, AS THE APPLICANT, YOU'LL HAVE 15

MINUTES IF YOU NEED IT, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY OPPOSITION TO

THE PROJECT THIS MORNING, SO IF YOU'LL START WITH YOUR NAME,

AFTER YOUR NAME STATED, THE CLOCK WILL TURN GREEN AND YOU'LL

HAVE 15 MINUTES.

>> I'M STEVE RAYAS, PROJECT MANAGER REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT,

MICHELLE LEE.

>> CHARLES SANTOS.

>> I HAVE A PRESENTATION.FIRST, A BIG THANKS TO SHAWN FOR

WORKING WITH US FOR A WHILE NOW AND REALLY FINE TUNING THE

PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.WE BELIEVE IT'S A GREAT PROJECT THAT'S FITTING IN THE MARKET.THE DEMAND FOR THE SITE AND THE ACTIVITY,

AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY, SO I'LL START WITH THE PRESENTATION

NOW.THIS JUST HIGHLIGHTS WHAT SHAWN SAID SO I DON'T WANT TO BE

TOO REDUNDANT, BUT THE AREA HIGHLIGHTED IN PINK IS THE PRIMARY

AREA FOR TRUCK STORAGE AND THERE'S 30 [INAUDIBLE] THERE.THE

ORANGE RECTANGLE IS THE PROPOSED OFFICE BUILDING AND YOU CAN SEE

THE HIGHLIGHTED LANDSCAPING OF APPROXIMATELY 10 THOUSAND SQUARE

FEET WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE AREA IN GENERAL.IT'S

CONVENIENTLY AS I MENTIONED SITUATED IN A MAJOR INDUSTRIAL

CORRIDOR.IT'S ONE MILE FROM THE -- THANKS -- 91 AND 10, IT'S TWO

MILES FROM THE 91 AND THE 405, LESS THAN -- AND LESS THAN FOUR

MILES FROM THE 110 AND THE 405, I'M NOT SURE, I CAN'T KEEP

TRACK, KEEP IT STRAIGHT, BUT IT'S LESS THAN FOUR MILES FROM

ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT INTERCHANGES, IT'S A MAJOR -- IT'S GOT A

GREAT SPOT, IT'S ON THE EASTERN EDGE OF A MAJOR INDUSTRIAL

CORRIDOR AND TRANSPORTATION ROUTE TO THE HARBORS.WHAT MOST OF

THE ACTIVITY IS GOING THROUGH ON A DAILY BASIS TO AND FROM THE

SITE.THE OPERATOR AS WELL AS THE OPERATOR'S TENANTS THAT SHARE

THE SITE.IT'S ALSO LOCATED ON ALONDRA WHICH IS THE CITY OF

CARSON, IT ABUTS THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF L.A. COUNTY, AND TO

THE SOUTH IS CARSON AND THEY'VE -- THEY'VE DESIGNATED THIS AS AN

OFFICIAL TRUCK ROUTE, AS PART OF THE TRUCK ROUTE AND PARKING,

OFF-SITE PARKING AREAS THAT ARE ALLOWED, COMMERCIAL TRUCKS ARE

NOT ALLOWED TO PARK ON THE STREETS SO THAT CREATES A DEMAND FOR THIS SORT OF BUSINESS.THERE'S ACTUALLY A SHORTAGE FOR TRUCKS TO

BE STORED SO IT'S VERY MUCH NEEDED RIGHT NOW.THE CITY OF CARSON

ALSO PROVIDED FEEDBACK AND CLEARANCE OF OUR APPROVAL TO THE

DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS WHEN DISCUSSING INGRESS AND EGRESS TO

THE SITE AND TRAFFIC AND JUST THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IN

GENERAL, MAKING SURE THAT CARSON WAS ON BOARD WITH IT AND THEY

WERE.TO ENSURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS COMPATIBLE AND RESPECTFUL

OF THE SURROUNDING AREA AND NEIGHBORS, WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THE

FOUR LIGHTS THAT WILL BE NEW TO THE SITE WILL BE SHIELDED AND

THEN ALSO EXTRA SHIELDS, HOODS OR GLARE SHIELDS ON THREE SIDES

OF THE LIGHT PICTURE ITSELF, AND YOU CAN SEE THE HOODS HERE AS

JUST ONE SIDE, BUT WHAT'S PROPOSED IS THAT THE LIGHTS WILL HAVE

THREE SIDES WITH EXTRA HOODS.ONE SIDE THAT WOULDN'T WOULD BE

FACING EAST -- OR WEST, I'M SORRY, THERE'S A NEXT DOOR STORAGE

YARD.I'M SORRY.WE'RE ALSO -- AS SHAWN POINTED OUT WITH THE

HOURS, WE'RE LIMITING THE LIGHTS TO THE HOURS THAT THE SITE

OPERATES.WHEN THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE LIMITED, THE LIGHTS

WOULD BE OFF.PROPOSED LANDSCAPING, WE'VE GONE OVER.IN TOTAL,

THERE WILL BE 49 OF THESE PINE TREES THAT ARE INTENTIONALLY

PROPOSED FOR THE PURPOSE OF CREATING A LARGE HEDGE, THEY GROW

20-40 FEET AND THERE'S A PICTURE HERE OF WHAT THEY LOOK

LIKE.WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO IMPROVE THE ESTHETICS OF THE STREET

FRONTAGE FENCE THAT'S GOING TO BE UP WITH SOME LANDSCAPING AS

WELL.THE NEIGHBORING DEVELOPMENT HAS A SIMILAR VEGETATION OF LANDSCAPING THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADD TO BASICALLY, CONTINUING

ALONG THE FRONTAGE.PUBLIC HEALTH HAS ALSO PROVIDED AND WORKED

WITH US ON NOISE MITIGATION AGAIN TO BE RESPECTFUL OF -- AND

COMPLIANT WITH POTENTIAL IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORS, DUST EMISSIONS

AND NOISE, THEY WERE SATISFIED WITH OUR INFORMATION IN TERMS OF

ACOUSTICAL ANALYSIS IN TERMS OF THE TRUCKS AND NO IDLING IS

PERMITTED.THE CLEAN TRUCKS HAVE TO BURN A CARBON FILTER WHICH IS

KIND OF NOISY AND THAT IS NOT PERMITTED AND IT HASN'T BEEN AND

IT REALLY MAKES THE IMPACT ON -- FOR A QUIETER OPERATION.THIS

JUST HIGHLIGHTS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, STAFF HAS DETERMINED OR

FOUND THAT IT'S COMPLETELY AND WELL WITHIN THE GOALS AND

OBJECTIVES OF THE GENERAL PLAN AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY

STANDARDS DISTRICT, THE WEST RANCHO DOMINGUEZ-VICTORIA CSD,

INCLUDING THE TEMPORARY PARKING ACTIVITY THAT WILL TRANSITION

INTO THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.THAT'S IT.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: GREAT, THANK YOU.WERE YOU PLANNING ON

SPEAKING?

>> I WAS NOT

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: OKAY, GOOD, ANY QUESTIONS OF THE

APPLICANT?12:59:45COMMISSIONER LOUIE?

>> COMMISSIONER LOUIE: A QUESTION OF THE LANDSCAPING ON THE

STREET FRONTAGE.IS THAT ACTUALLY GOING TO BE LANDSCAPING, YOU'RE

GOING TO CULTIVATE, IRRIGATE?

>> BECAUSE THE FENCE IS RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF THE SIDEWALK, IT

WILL --.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: IT LOOKED MORE LIKE A VINE.

>> YEAH, THE LANDSCAPING ON THE INSIDE AND THEN IT WILL BE --

JUST GROW EITHER OVER OR UNDERSTOOD.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: WERE THERE ANY OTHER

SPEAKERS?GOOD.DISCUSSION AND/OR DIRECTION.

>> COMMISSIONER LOUIE: WITH NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I MOVE THE

REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION FIND THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY

EXEMPT PURSUANT TO STATE AND LOCAL CEQA GUIDELINES.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: DO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>>

>> COMMISSIONER LOUIE: FURTHER, I MOVE THAT THE REGIONAL

PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER

201300181 SUBJECT TO THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: DO I HAVE A MOTION, DISCUSSION?ALL IN FAVOR,

SAY AYE.AYE.OPPOSED?THE MOTION CARRIES.

>> AND THE APPEAL DATE WILL BE [INAUDIBLE].

>> STAFF NEEDS TO LOAD SOMETHING ON THE COMPUTERS, WE'LL RESUME

AT 10:10.( MEETING IN RECESS UNTIL 10:10 ).

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: WE'LL CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.WE'LL

NOW MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 9 ON THE AGENDA.BEFORE WE HEAR STAFF

REPORT, I WAS JUST CONFERRING DURING THE BREAK, WE DON'T OFTEN

HAVE APPEALS FROM HEARING OFFICERS, SO LET ME JUST SORT OF

EXPLAIN THE PARAMETERS AND GUIDELINES AS MY UNDERSTANDING.WHEN A

HEARING OFFICER APPROVES OR DENIES AN ITEM, THEN STAFF TAKES A

POSITION THAT THAT IS AN ACTION OF THE COUNTY AS OFFICIAL ACTION

HAS BEEN TAKEN.IF AN APPEAL IS FILED, THEN WE ARE THE APPELLANT

BODY FOR THAT BUT STAFF HAS TO COME TO US SUPPORTING THE ACTION

OF THE HEARING OFFICER, SO OFFICIALLY, STAFF HAS COME TO US

SEEKING CONTINUANCE TODAY WHICH NORMALLY MEANS THAT WE WON'T

TAKE ACTION, HOWEVER, IT'S REALLY ALMOST TREATED LIKE A DE NOVO HEARING, BUT IN THE CASE HERE, THE APPELLANT IS THE ONE THAT'S

FILED THE APPEAL, SO THEY SPEAK FIRST, THE APPLICANT THEN WILL

BE PROVIDED WITH EQUAL TIME TO PRESENT THEIR CASE AS THEY WOULD

HAVE AT THE HEARING OFFICER'S ACTION.WE THEN WILL TAKE PUBLIC

TESTIMONY AND THAT TESTIMONY WILL SUPPORT THE APPLICANT OR THE

APPELLANT AND THEN AFTER THE TESTIMONY IS GIVEN, THEN THE

APPELLANT WILL HAVE A REBUTTAL PERIOD.BECAUSE IT'S COMING

BASICALLY FROM STAFF TO US SUPPORTING THE ACTION OF THE HEARING

OFFICER, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF

INFORMATION CAME FORWARD WITH THE FILING OF THE APPEAL THAT

STAFF HAS NOT REALLY OPINED ON WHICH IS SORT OF THE REASON IT'S

COMING TO US BASICALLY WITH INFORMATION FROM THE COMMUNITY --

THE APPELLANT AND FROM THE APPLICANT WHO'S ALREADY GOTTEN

APPROVAL FOR THIS.13:12:25WE THEN CAN TAKE ACTION, HOWEVER WE'RE

NOT BEING PRESENTED WITH A RECOMMENDED MOTION, SO WE'RE GOING TO

LISTEN TO THE TESTIMONY BASED UPON THE TESTIMONY, WE MAY DIRECT

THIS BACK FOR CONTINUANCE IN WHICH CASE THE CASE REMAINS OPEN

FOR ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY BASED UPON WHATEVER DIRECTION THE

COMMISSION PROVIDES OR THE COMMISSION CAN FIND SUFFICIENT

EVIDENCE TO SUSTAIN THE ACTION OF THE HEARING OFFICER OR

SUFFICIENT QUESTIONS MIGHT BE RAISED BY THE APPELLANT THAT WE

MAY DECIDE TO MOVE IN FAVOR OF THE APPELLANT AND THEN OVERTURN

THE ACTION OF THE HEARING OFFICER, SO JUST TO SORT OF LAY OUT

THE GAME PLAN FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME TO TESTIFY, WE'LL TAKE FULL TESTIMONY, OFTEN THYME IN 13:13:17CONTINUANCES AS LIKE

ONE OF THE IE STEPS WE HEARD, WE DIDN'T TAKE TESTIMONY BECAUSE

AT THAT TIME, THE APPLICANT SOUGHT CONTINUATION OF THE CASE, SO

BECAUSE STAFF IS COMING FORWARD TO US SAYING THEIR HANDS ARE

SOMEWHAT TIED BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TO TAKE A SUPPORTIVE POSITION

OF THE HEARINGS OFFICER SINCE THE HEARING OFFICER IS REALLY ONE

OF THEM AS PART OF STAFF AND WE ARE THE APPELLANT THEN, SO WITH

THAT, WE'LL START WITH THE APPELLANT AND THE APPELLANT WILL BE

PROVIDED WITH 15 MINUTES.THE APPLICANT, WE THEN WILL ALLOW THEM

TO SPEAK, WE'LL THEN HEAR FROM -- I'M NOT SURE IF IT WOULD BE

BETTER -- I THINK MOST OF THE PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK ARE PROBABLY

SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE APPELLANT, SO WHY DON'T WE TAKE ALL THE

TESTIMONY FOLLOWING THE APPELLANT'S 15 MINUTES, WE CANNOT

COMBINE PERIODS OF TIME, SO ANYONE WHO ADDITIONAL WANTS TO SPEAK

WILL BE PROVIDED WITH THREE MINUTES, WE'LL THEN GIVE THE

APPLICANT A PERIOD OF TIME TO SPEAK AND THEN AFTER THE APPLICANT

HAS SPOKEN, WE'LL HEAR AGAIN FROM THE APPELLANT, SO I SEE TWO

PEOPLE IN FRONT OF ME AND I DON'T SEE SOMEBODY READING NAMES FOR

US, SO IF YOU'LL START WITH YOUR NAME.YOU ARE THE APPELLANT?

>> OKAY.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: IF YOU'LL START WITH YOUR NAME AND THEN YOU

WILL BE PROVIDED WITH 15 MINUTES.I'M SORRY, WE'LL HAVE COUNTY

COUNSEL FIRST.

>> I CAN APPRECIATE ON SOME OF THE NAME PRONUNCIATIONS, ROSS

MILITAGE.DAVID MUMIGAG AND RON MONTANELI.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: I TRUST YOU'RE THE APPELLANT.

>> YES.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: START WITH YOUR NAME.

>> MY NAME IS DAVID LUMAQUED, I'M A SIX YEAR RESIDENT THE CITY

OF SAN DIMAS WHICH IS ABOUT 25 FEET AWAY FROM THE CHARTER OAK

LIGHT CHURCH, ABOUT 100 FEET AWAY FROM THE PROPOSED CELL TOWER

SITE, 43 YEAR RESIDENT IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY, I GRADUATED FROM

ST. MARY'S COLLEGE WITH A BACHELOR OF SCIENCE DEGREE IN BUSINESS

ADMINISTRATION, I'M A DIVISION MANAGER, A REGISTERED INVESTMENT

ADVISOR, WE DO THE INVESTMENTS, INSURANCE AND STATE PLANNING BUT

AN OWNER OF ICM INVESTOR AND LENDING WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT PART

OF OUR CONVERSATION, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS GOING ON 20 YEARS AT

THE END OF THIS YEAR.WHAT I'M ASKING FOR ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AS

WELL AS THE 418 LETTERS THAT WE HAVE SIGNED FROM INDIVIDUALS AGAINST THE CELL TOWER, WE ASK THAT YOU REJECT VERIZON'S

PETITION R201402565-5 AT 4437 NORTH SUNFLOWER AVENUE IN THE CITY

OF COVINA UNINCORPORATED L.A. COUNTY WHICH BRINGS US HERE TODAY

ON THE GROUNDS THAT THEY HAVE NOT -- THE APPLICATION'S

INCOMPLETE AND THEY CANNOT PROVE THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT GAP IN

THIS AREA.WE'RE GOING TO EVIDENCE IT BY 9 KEY POINTS THAT I'M

GOING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY.NUMBER ONE, THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT

GAP OF COVERAGE IN THIS AREA.HOW DO I KNOW THIS?I GO TO THE

VERIZON’S WEBSITE AND IT SHOWS ME IN RED THERE'S NO GAP IN THIS

AREA SO I'M CONFUSED OF WHAT I SEE FROM THE APPLICANT, WHAT

THEIR MAP SHOWS VERSUS WHAT VERIZON'S WEB MAP SHOWS ME AS A

CONSUMER, I HAVE AT&T, VERIZON IS LISTED AS NUMBER ONE AND IT

SHOWS 100% RED, IT DOESN'T SHOW THERE'S ANY GAP OF COVERAGE IN

THIS AREA.I WAS ASKING VERIZON FOR THEIR DROP CALL DATA AND

INFORMATION AND THEY'RE NOT SHARING ANY OF IT WITH ME.I'M

ASKING, IS THERE DROPPED CALLS IN THE AREA, I DON'T THINK SO,

I'M WITH AT&T, VERIZON IS NUMBER ONE, I'M ASKING FOR DROP CALL

DATA, INFORMATION, CAN YOU SUPPORT THIS, THE ANSWER IS NO.BUT

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW IS A SIGNIFICANT GAP DEFINED,

ACCORDING TO THE THIRD CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS, FIRST THE

PROVIDER MUST SHOW THE FACILITY WILL FILL AN EXISTING

SIGNIFICANT GAP IN THE ABILITY OF REMOTE USERS TO ACCESS THE

NATIONAL TELEPHONE NETWORK.WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?CAN I MAKE A

VOICE CALL?WE CAN MAKE VOICE CALLS FROM EVERYWHERE THROUGHOUT THE AREA, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TESTIMONY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE

VIDEOS, INFORMATION SHOWING THAT WE CAN MAKE A CALL FROM WHEN

THEY CALL THE ESSEX PROJECT WHERE THEY FEEL THERE'S A BIG GAP,

THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT, CAN YOU MAKE A VOICE CALL, THAT'S THE

1996 ACT, AND SECOND, THE PROVIDER OR THE APPLICANT MUST SHOW

THE MANNER IN WHICH IT PROPOSES TO FILL THIS SIGNIFICANT GAP IN

SERVICE IS THE LEAST INTRUSIVE, WE'RE GOING TO SHOW TODAY THAT

IT'S THE MOST INTRUSIVE SO THAT'S THE FIRST PART, CAN THEY SHOW

THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT GAP IN THIS AREA, ACCORDING TO THE 1996

TELECOMMUNICATION ACT, IF IT'S PROVENDER, THEN LOCAL GOVERNMENTS

MUST GRANT ACCESS, IF A SIGNIFICANT GAP IS NOT PROVENDER, THE

CELL TOWER IS CONSIDERED NON-ESSENTIAL AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS DO

NOT HAVE TO GRANT ACCESS.IMPROVING GAPS IN COVERAGE AND

INCREASING CAPACITY IS NOT THE SAME THING, WE KNOW THAT AT THE

VERIZON MEETING THEY HAD IN JULY, VERIZON'S CORE REPRESENTATIVE

ADMITTED THE CELL TOWER SITE WAS PROPOSED TO INCREASE CAPACITY,

NOT TO FILL A CURRENT SIGNIFICANT GAP, SO OUR FIRST ARGUMENT IS

ABOUT, IS THERE A SIGNIFICANT GAP.WHEN WE WENT TO THIRD PARTY

RESOURCES OR THREE DIFFERENT THIRD PARTY WEBSITES, FIRST ONE IS

ON SOROLY.COM, IT SHOWS THERE'S NO GAP IN COVERAGE IN THIS AREA,

ONE WAS OPEN SIGNAL.COM, IT SHOWS THERE’S NO GAP IN COVERAGE IN

THIS AREA.NUMBER THREE IS ROOTMETRICS.COM, THEY'RE A THIRD PARTY

RESOURCE THAT VERIZON USES ON THEIR WEBSITE OR THEY SAY, GREAT,

WE CAN PROVE IT.THERE'S NO SIGNIFICANT GAP IN COVERAGE IN THIS AREA.THIS IS NOT MY MAP, THIS IS NOT ANYTHING DONE BY US AS A

COMMUNITY, IT'S NOTHING THAT VERIZON'S MAP, THIS IS A THIRD

PARTY RESOURCE THAT SHOWS THAT, WELL, VERIZON IS NUMBER ONE ON

THE WHEN IT COMES IS THERE A SIGNIFICANT GAP, THE ANSWER IS

NO.THAT'S OUR FIRST POINTS, NUMBER 2, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT

E911 COVERAGE AND SERVICES, SO WE BELIEVE THAT EMERGENCY 911

SERVICES CURRENTLY IN PLACE MEET ALL NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND

ARE NOT IN NEED OF IMPROVEMENT, ACCORDING TO FCC RULING, IT IS

REQUIRED THAT ANY CARRIER CAN CONNECT AN E911 CALL FROM ANY CELL

PHONE, EVEN UNSUBSCRIBED CELL PHONES CAN CONNECT, THIS IS A

SHARED RESPONSIBILITY FROM ALL CARRIERS TO CONNECT TO E911, IN

AN EMERGENCY, YOU'RE BETTING OFF USING A LAND LINE BECAUSE THEY

CAN FIND YOU EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE AT, YOUR ADDRESS AND YOUR

PHONE NUMBER, FROM A CELL PHONE, EVEN IF A CELL TOWER'S UP, THEY

DON'T KNOW YOUR EXACT LOCATION, MANY PEOPLE STILL OWN LAND

LINES, SO THE E911 ARGUMENT IS FLAWED AND IT'S ALREADY

SUFFICIENT IN AREAS THAT'S NOT NECESSARY FOR THE CELL TOWER.OUR

NUMBER 3 POINT IS ON THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.ACCORDING TO THE

1986 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE CHURCH, IT STATES ON SECTION

8, PART D THAT COMMERCIAL USE OF THE FACILITIES IS PROHIBITED,

AGAIN, COMMERCIAL USE OF THE FACILITIES IS PROHIBITED, THEY ARE

A TAX EXEMPT NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT'S STARTING TO ADD

COMMERCIAL USE PROPERTIES ON THEIR LOCATION WHICH WE FEEL AS A

COMMUNITY IT'S IN VIOLATION OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.NOW, WE KNOW THAT VERIZON HAS SOLD ALL THEIR TOWERS TO AMERICAN TOWER

OVER 11 THOUSAND PLUS TOWERS FOR 5 BILLION DOLLARS, THAT'S A LOT

OF MONEY, OKAY.THREE MILLION OF THIS IS GUARANTEED, HOW ARE THEY

GOING TO MAKE THE OTHER TWO BILLION, THEY'RE STARTING TO MAKE

TOWERS EVERYWHERE, AMERICAN TOWERS WANTS THEM TO BUILD TOWERS

AND LEASE UP THESE SPACES, EACH ONE IS 300 TO 600 THOUSAND

DOLLARS TO VERIZON, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY, IT'S MORE COMMERCIAL

SERVICE, EVEN THOUGH THE CHURCH IS MAKING A CERTAIN AMOUNT, THE

FACT THEY CAN ADD OTHER CELL TOWERS BECAUSE OF THE 1996 ACT THAT

THIS CANNOT DISCRIMINATE FROM OTHER COMPANY, ONCE ONE CELL TOWER

GOES UP, WE BELIEVE ANOTHER ONE WILL GO UP LIKE IN SOME OTHER

MAPS WE'RE GOING TO SHOW LATER, ONE TOWER EQUALS MORE IN THE

FUTURE, YOU DON'T WANT THE FIRST ONE BECAUSE IT'S RESIDENTIAL

AREAS, WERE EAR NOT AGAINST TECHNOLOGY OR CELL TOWERS, WE'RE

AGAINST CELL TOWERS IN RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES AND

NEIGHBORHOODS, ESPECIALLY IN NON-PROFIT LOCATIONS LIKE A CHURCH

WHICH WE BELIEVE SHOULD BE NEIGHBORLY AND OUR MOST IMPORTANT

THING IS THEY'RE VIOLATING THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, AS A

CUSTOMER WITH AT&T, ACCORDING TO ALL THESE WEBSITES, VERIZON IS

NUMBER ONE, THEY WANT ME TO BE THEIR CUSTOMER, THEY WANT ME AS

AN AT&T CUSTOMER TO GO TO VERIZON, IF I GO TO THESE THIRD PARTY

WEBSITES, THEY SAY THEY'RE NUMBER ONE AND I AGREE WITH THAT,

THEY HAVE THE BEST COVERAGE SO I THINK THE CHURCH IS VIOLATING

THE CONDITIONAL USE PURPOSE, VERIZON'S A GREAT STOCK AND INVESTMENT IN A SENSE AND THEY'RE GROWING AND AS A PERSON THAT

LIVES IN THE COMMUNITY, WE ARE AGAINST CELL TOWERS IN

RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, SO THEY'RE VIOLATING THE CONDITIONAL

USE PERMIT WHICH LEADS US TO NUMBER 4 IS THAT THE CHURCH ALSO

HAS FOUR 13:23:28INFRACTIONS WE WANT TO REFERENCE, THE FIRST

INFRACTION IS THEY'VE BEEN PUTTING ILLEGALLY SIGNAGE CONNECTED

TO TREES UNTIL RECENTLY UNTIL IT WAS NOTED THAT THIS IS HAPPEN,

THEY'VE HAD IT HERE FOR MANY YEARS, THEY RECENTLY HAVE TAKEN IT

DOWN, THAT'S INFRACTION NUMBER ONE, INFRACTION NUMBER 2, THEY

HAVE ILLEGAL TEMPORARY STORAGE THAT'S BEEN SITTING THERE THAT'S

TEMPORARY STORAGE THAT'S NOT AT THE FIVE FOOT SETBACK AND,

AGAIN, WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS THE NEIGHBORS WE'VE POLLED AND

PETITIONS IS THERE'S A TRANSIENT 13:23:59HOMELESS WOMAN THAT

EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, SHE'S HANDING OUT BEHIND THE STORAGE

UNITS, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S PERMITTED, WE HAVE ZONING THAT'S

GOING TO BE COMMUNICATED WITH THEM, THAT'S ANOTHER INFRACTION

THAT'S ON THEIR PROPERTY WHICH IS PART OF OUR CONVERSATION

TODAY.IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT OF THAT, THEY HAVE ONE PARKING

SPOT THAT'S FULL OF DIRT, I CAN GO TO GOOGLE MAPS AND THEY SHOW

DIRT ON THAT MAP, THAT'S INFRACTION NUMBER 3, INFRACTION NUMBER

4, THEY'RE VIOLATING THEIR PARKING OCCUPANCY BECAUSE THEY'RE

SUPPOSED TO HAVE 70 PARKING SPACES, ON THIS MAP, THEY HAVE 68,

BY THE TWO LEGAL TEMPORARY STORAGE UNITS THAT ARE STILL SITTING

THERE AND A BASKETBALL IN FRONT OF IT, THEY'RE DOWN TO 66.THE DIRT MAKES IT 65, NOW BY ADDING THE CELL TOWER, THEY'RE GOING TO

LOSE TWO TO THREE PARKING SPACES, NOW IT BRINGS IT DOWN TO 62.I

KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO SAY THIS AND THAT AND WHATNOT, IT VIOLATES

MY AREA BECAUSE I KNOW THIS WEEK EN, WE HAD A COMMUNITY RALLY

AND PROTEST AGAINST THE CELL TOWER AND IT SHOWED THERE PEOPLE

WERE PARKING ON OUR STREET, PARKING ON OUR BLOCK, THERE'S NO

HANDICAPPED PARKING TO GO INTO THE CHURCH, THEY'RE VIOLATING

THEIR OCCUPANCY WHEN IT COMES TO PARKING.THAT'S NUMBER 4 ON

INFORMATION.NUMBER 5 IS THIS APPLICATION IS INCOMPLETE BECAUSE

WHEN THEY SAY THERE'S SOME ALTERNATIVE SITES THAT THEY LIST ON

THEIR APPLICATION, THEY LIST 4, WELL, OF THE 4, TWO OF THEM ARE

REJECTED SITES SO WHEN WE STARTED THE PROCESS, THE CHURCH CAME

TO US, WHY NOT LET US HAVE IT ON OUR SIDE OF THE BLOCK BECAUSE

INSTEAD OF THE CHURCH, LET THE CHURCH MAKE THE MONEY, IF NOT, IT

WILL GO ACROSS THE STREET AT THE COVINA TANKS, WE SAID, WELL,

DID YOU READ THE APPLICATION, THE WATER TANKS WAS REJECTED, THE

CITY OF COVINA SAID YOU CANNOT PUT IT ON THE GROUND, YOU HAVE TO

LOOK TO SEE IF YOU CAN PUT IT ON TOP OF THE WATER TANKS, THAT'S

VERY EXPENSIVE AND THE EQUIPMENT IS HEAVY SO THEY'RE NOT GOING

TO PUT IT ON THE WATER TANKS, THEY REJECTED THAT.THE CHURCH

CHRIST OF THE VALLEY, SAME THING, SAN DIMAS REJECTED THE CELL

TOWER ON THE GROUNDS, WE TALKED TO THE CHURCH CHRIST'S OF

VALLEY, THEY SAID, PUT IT ON OUR ROOF CORE, THEY DIDN'T PURSUE,

WHY NOT?THE EXPENSIVE IS VERY HEAVY AND EXPENSIVE, THEY WANT TO ADD MORE TOWERS TO IT IN THE FUTURE, THAT'S THEIR GOAL, FOR

FUTURE CAPACITY, NOT CAPACITY FOR IT TODAY.THE SCHOOL, THEY

CONSIDERED IT A SENSITIVE AREA, THERE'S SCHOOLS, THERE'S DAYCARE

CENTERS, THEY HAVE ONE ON THEIR FACILITY, YOU WANT TO EXPOSE THE

KIDS TO THIS THING, THERE'S DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVE SITES THAT WE

FOUND BUT IN THEIR CASE, THEY'RE NOT SHOWING US ALTERNATIVE

SITES, THEY'RE SHOWING US REJECTED SITES AND ONES THAT ARE NOT

AVAILABLE.THE FOURTH IS THE COMMUNITY HOSPITAL, THE LANDOWNER

REJECTED THEM HAVING IT AT THEIR SITE.I CONSIDER THAT A

SENSITIVE AREA AS WELL, JUST LIKE OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS, IT'S

INCOMPLETE WHEN IT COMES TO THE LOCATION, THAT'S NUMBER FIVE.IT

NEEDS TO BE THE LEAST INTRUSIVE AREA, IT'S THE LEAST INTRUSIVE

AREA WHEN IT COMES TO LOCATION.WHEN I READ THE CONDITIONAL USE

PERMIT, I READ IT AND I'M LIKE, WOW, THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT

BURDEN OF PROOF, ME AS A RESIDENT, I LIVE HERE, THE CHURCH

MEMBERS I THINK TWO OF THEM LIVE WITHIN THE THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT

RADIUS, AS I READ IT, THAT THE REQUESTED USE OF THE LOCATION

WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE HEALTH, THE PEACE, COMFORT OR

WELFARE OF PERSONS RESIDING OR WORKING IN THE RESIDING AREA,

THAT'S ME, IT AFFECTS MY PEACE AND MY COMFORT.THE MATERIALLY

DETRIMENTALLY USE AND ENJOYMENT AND VALUATION OF PROPERTY.THAT'S

A BIGGER ISSUE.THE VICINITY SITE OR JEOPARDIZE, ENDANGER OR

OTHERWISE CONSTITUTE A MENACE TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR

GENERAL WELFARE.WE BELIEVE IN THE COMMUNITY IT'S DOING 100% OF THE THINGS THAT IT CLAIMS IT'S NOT GOING TO DO, IT NEEDS TO BE

THE LEAST INTRUSIVE, IT'S THE MOST INTRUSIVE, DID THEY PROVIDE

ALTERNATIVE SITES.PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT

ALTERNATIVE SITES MIGHT BE, I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PROVIDE

ALTERNATIVE SITES, CORE, VERIZON, THEY SHOULD PROVIDE THESE

SITES, THAT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.THE APPLICATION IS

INCOMPLETE, NUMBER 6, ZONE, IT'S IMPROPERLY ZONED, IT SAYS A1,

IT HASN'T BEEN A1 FOR A LONG TIME, THEY'RE GOING TO BE TALKING

ABOUT THE ZONING, WE KNOW BECAUSE OF ZONE, NORTH OF THIS AREA

ARE WATER TANKS AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, ON THE NORTH,

SOUTH, EAST AND WEST, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, THEY HAVE IT ON

THEIR APPLICATION, ON THE OTHER PART OF THE APPLICATION, IT

STATES THE PROPOSED PROJECT WOULD HAVE AN APPROPRIATE 40 FOOT

SETBACK WHICH EXCEEDS OUR ONCE CORRESPONDING REAR SETBACK BUT IN

CONSIDERATION OF THE 35 HEIGHT LIMIT FOR R-1, OUR PROJECT

EXCEEDS THE HEIGHT 13:29:05RESTRICTION BY 11 FEET.THE WAY I WANT

YOU TO THINK ABOUT IT, THE CHURCH IS LIKE AN ISLAND, IT IS

SURROUNDED BY R-1 RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITY, IT'S

ON THEIR APPLICATION.I CANNOT BUILD MY HOME TO 46 FEET, IT WILL

NOT BE APPROVABLE.THIS IS ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS WE HAVE REGARDING

ZONING, SO I THINK IT'S ZONED IMPROPERLY WHICH LEADS US TO THE

NEXT POINT OF ESTHETICS WHICH IS A BIG KEY TO OUR

ARGUMENT.ESTHETIC WISE, THE HOMES IN THE COMMUNITY ARE NICE, I

DON'T LIKE THE WAY IT LOOKS, IT'S UGLY, IT'S GOING TO BE A NUISANCE TO ME FOR MYSELF PERSONALLY, WE HAVE OVER 418 PEOPLE

THAT SIGNED THAT ESTHETIC-WISE, IT'S UGLY, THIS IS FULL, WE DID

A CAMPAIGN, WE TALKED TO 13:29:47PEOPLE AND WE GOT ACTUAL REAL

INFORMATION, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ESTHETICS, THE BALLOON, HOW HIGH

IT'S GOING TO BE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NOT LIKE IT, SO

ESTHETIC-WISE FOR ME 13:29:59AND FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT SIGNED

THE LETTER, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE KNOW THIS IS GOING

TO BE REJECTED IS ESTHETICS, WE BELIEVE IT'S IMPROPERLY ZONED

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE DON'T WANT IT, WE DON'T LIKE

IT.ACCORDING TO THE ACT, THEY CAN INCREASE IT TO 66 FEET IN THE

FUTURE WHICH IS WHAT WE DON'T WANT, 46 FEET TODAY IS UGLY, 66

FEET IN THE FUTURE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE, I KNOW I'M RUNNING OUT OF

TIME, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ME EXTRA TIME BECAUSE

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES BUT I'M GOING TO PLEAD WITH

YOU TO SPEAK ON OUR BEHALF WITH THE CITIZENS AND YOU DON'T WORK

FOR VERIZON, WE ARE FIGHTING THIS AS MUCH AS WE CAN AND I WOULD

LIKE TO NOW STATE THAT ANYONE THAT OPPOSES A CELL TOWER WITH

MYSELF, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO GO AHEAD AND STAND AND LET YOU KNOW

WE'RE MERE TO FIGHT THIS AND TOOK A BUS TODAY AND WE'RE ON THIS

THING 100%, WE WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, PLEASE REJECT OR UPHOLD OUR

APPEAL AND REJECT THE APPLICATION FOR THE CELL TOWER R201402565,

THANK YOU.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THAT WAS AN OUTSTANDING

PRESENTATION.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: ALRIGHT.

>> ARE THERE ANYMORE QUESTIONS OR I'M DONE?

>> I WANT TO INDICATE ONE OF THE PEOPLE I CALLED WAS THE

APPLICANT.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: WE'LL CALL THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS FOR

THREE MINUTES EACH.( CALLING SPEAKER NAMES ).PLEASE COME

FORWARD.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: TO KEEP THINGS MOVING, WE HAVE TWO SEATS, I

WOULD LIKE TWO PEOPLE TO SIT DOWN, AFTER THE FIRST PERSON HAS

SPOKE, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, IF YOU CAN GIVE UP THE SEAT AND

IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL NAMES BEING CALLED, WE'LL KEEP PEOPLE

COMING THROUGH.YOU CALLED 6 NAMES I BELIEVE, CORRECT.SO, AT ANY

POINT IN TIME, YOU CAN START AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

>> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS MARTINELI, I'M A RESIDENT OF LOS

ANGELES COUNTY AND PROFESSIONALLY HAVE SERVED AS A CHIEF

OPERATING ENGINEER AND WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY DEEP AND SINCERE DISCONTENT WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND THAT IT SHOULD BE

REJECTED.PROFESSIONALLY AND IN MY OPINION, I WOULD NEVER ALLOW

SUCH A PROJECT TO TAKE PLACE WITHOUT STRONGLY RECOMMENDING AND

FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH A COMPREHENSIVE DISCUSSION WITH BOTH

BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS OF THE AREA.THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO

EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS, OPINIONS AND VIEWS BECAUSE IT DIRECTLY

IMPACTS THEM.PUTTING THIS TOWER IN PLACE, KNOWING THAT IT MAY

HAVE DELETERIOUS IMPACTS ON THE COMMUNITY TO ME IS

IRRESPONSIBLE.VERIZON CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS AND

LOCATIONS WHERE THIS TYPE OF NEGATIVE IMPACT DOES NOT TAKE

PLACE.JUST LISTEN TO THE CONCERNED CITIZENS, THEY'RE

OUTRAGED.THIS IS LITERALLY IN THEIR BACKYARDS.THIS CELL TOWER

PROJECT CLEARLY HAS NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST

ESTHETICALLY BUT ALSO IT'S LITERALLY IN THEIR BACKYARDS.IN

CONCLUSION, I BELIEVE THIS PROJECT SHOULD BE REJECTED

INDEFINITELY, THE RESIDENTS ARE PASSIONATELY SPEAKING OUT AND

THEY SHOULD BE HEARD.THE RESIDENTS ABSOLUTELY SHOULD BE

HEARD.THANK YOU.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU.QUESTIONS?ALRIGHT.SO, IF YOU WILL

VACATE THE SEAT AND SOMEBODY CAN TAKE YOUR CHAIR, MA'AM?

>> HELLO, MY NAME IS CARLA GARCIA, I'M A RESIDENT OF L.A. COUNTY

AND I'M HERE TO OBJECT TO THE CELL TOWER PROJECT.I WANT TO FOCUS THE ATTENTION TO THE CUP BURDEN OF PROOF, THE STATEMENTS SET

FORTH BY THE COUNTY THAT THE APPLICANT WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT

PEACE, COMFORT AND WELFARE AND IT WILL ALSO BE MATERIALLY

DETRIMENTAL TO THE VALUATION OF PROPERTY ALL ARE JEOPARDIZED BY

THE CELL TOWER, AND I THINK THEY KIND OF DROVE HOME THAT THERE

ARE OTHER PLACES WHERE YOU CAN PUT IT BUT IT'S DEFINITELY NOT

WELCOMED, NOT WANTED IN THE AREA OF RESIDENCE, NOT JUST FOR THIS

HOME BUT I THINK I SPEAK FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT THESE

ARE ALL OUT OF PLACE.THERE IS PLENTY OF ROOM, OTHER AREAS WHERE

THEY CAN CO-LOCATE AND THEY MIGHT BE MORE EXPENSIVE FOR THEM,

BUT IT'S NOT DEFINITELY IN THE BEST INTEREST AND THE WELFARE OF

THE COMMON CITIZEN TO HAVE THIS IN THEIR BACKYARD.I WOULD ALSO

LIKE TO SAY THAT PEACE IS A BIG PORTION OF IT.IT'S ONE OF THE

SECOND THINGS MENTIONED TON CUP AND I DON'T SEE HOW -- YOU CAN

SEE THE RESIDENTS ARE VERY OUTRAGED AT IT AND WE'VE BEEN

PROTESTING, IT'S BEEN TWO MONTHS, WE'VE BEEN OUT IN THE HEAT,

WE'VE BEEN PROTEST K, OUT THERE EARLY MORNING, LATE EVENINGS,

WE'RE ALSO TIRED, WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE

CHURCH, WE DON'T WANT TO BE HOSTILE, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS

KIND OF CONFLICT IN OUR COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY RIGHT DOWN THE

STREET JUST A FEW YARDS FROM US, IT'S DIFFICULT TO LIVE LIKE

THAT, THAT IS NOT LIVING IN PEACE, AND BESIDES THAT, HOMES ARE

BEING DEVALUED.IS THERE ANY TALK ABOUT THAT REIMBURSEMENT OF A

LOSS?HOW IS SOMEBODY TO LAY THEIR HEAD UNDER THEIR ROOF AND BE AT PEACE KNOWING THEIR HOME VALUE IS GOING TO DROP AND TO

PLUMMET WHEN WE HAVE INFLATION THAT WE MUST LOOK AT EVERY YEAR.I

THINK IT'S 6-8% OF INFLATION AND THE HOME VALUES ARE GOING

DOWN.THIS IS PEOPLE'S HARD EARNED MONEY AND MOST OF THEIR

RETIREMENT IS IN THEIR HOMES, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE THEY FEEL

THEY'RE GOING TO BE AT PEACE, WHEN THEIR RETIREMENT IS DONE, AT

LEAST THEY HAVE A HOMESTEAD, SOMETHING THEY CAN CALL A HOME AND

BE AT PEACE WITH BUT THAT IS BEING TORN AND RIPPED APART FROM

THEM, YOUR PLACE OF HOME SHOULD BE PEACEFUL, RESTFUL, SOMETHING

THAT YOU CAN RESIDE AT WITHOUT ANY WORRY, YOU KNOW, AND THIS HAS

COME IN TO A RELATIVELY PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE WAS NO

HOSTILITIES BEFORE THIS AND THE CELL TOWER HAS BROUGHT ABOUT

CONFLICT AND WE'RE ASKING FOR THE BOARD HERE, THE COMMISSION TO

REJECT THIS PLAN AND BRING THAT PEACE ABOUT AGAIN AND RESTORE

IT.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU.SIR?

>> YES, I'M WILLIAM CHAN, ME AND MY WIFE LIVE IN 1877

[INAUDIBLE], SO WE JUST BOUGHT THE HOUSE LAST OCTOBER, MOVED TO

THE COMMUNITY.WE ARE SO HAPPY TO GET THIS HOME BECAUSE OF THE

LOVELY COMMUNITY AND THE NICE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO WE HOPE -- WE

WISH WE CAN HAVE A PEACEFUL LIFE FOR THE LIFE THERE, BUT

CURRENTLY SO NOW WE HAVE TO MOVE OUT AGAIN BECAUSE THE CELL TOWER, THE UGLY CELL TOWER, SO THE FIRST REASON IS, YEAH, THE

HOUSE IN OUR COMMUNITY LESS THAN 20 FEET, BUT THE CELL TOWER IS

46 FEET TALL, IF IT GOES THROUGH TO 66, 75 FEET, WE CANNOT

IMAGINE, WE HAVE TO FACE THE TOWER DAY AND NIGHT OF OUR LIVES,

SO WE DON'T LIKE THIS TOWER, THE CELL TOWER, IT DOES NOT MATCH

OUR COMMUNITY, MATCH OUR ENVIRONMENT, SO WE CANNOT -- WE WATCH

THE TOWER THROUGH OUR WINDOW, FROM OUR BACKYARD AND THE TOWER

BLOCK OUR VIEW, SO SECONDLY, SO WHAT SHOULD WE DO?WE ARE FORCED

TO MOVE OUT BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE THE CELL TOWER.WE TALK TO OUR

REAL ESTATE AGENT, SO HE TOLD ME, SO IF WE SOLD OUR HOUSE, WE

WOULD LOSE THAT MONEY, SO MY QUESTION IS, WHO WILL PAY OUR

LOSS?THE VERIZON COMPANY, THE CHURCH?I DON'T THINK SO, SO WHAT

SHOULD WE DO?SO, IT'S NOT FAIR BECAUSE THE VERIZON COMPANY

MAKING MONEY BECAUSE OF THE CELL TOWER, THE CHURCH MAKE THE

MONEY BECAUSE OF THE TOWER, BUT WE LOSE THE MONEY, OUR

NEIGHBORHOOD LOSE THE MONEY.THE SECOND REASON IS WE DON'T NEED A

CELL TOWER BECAUSE AFTER MOVING TO THE COMMUNITY, WE MAKE THE --

WE DON'T HAVE THE PHONE LINE AT OUR HOME, WE JUST USE OUR CELL

PHONE, WE CALL EMERGENCY, WE CALL THE HOSPITAL, WE CAN CALL

EVERYWHERE WITHOUT ANY TROUBLE.AFTER WE MOVE INTO THE NEW HOME,

WE NEEDED A REMODEL JOB, SO OUR REMODEL USE THE VERIZON PHONE,

HE MAKE A LOT OF PHONE CALLS DURING THEIR REMODELING WITHOUT ANY

TROUBLES, SO THE THIRD QUESTION IS I JUST --.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: OKAY, YOUR TIME IS UP BUT THANK YOU VERY

MUCH.

>> OKAY.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: SIR?

>> MY NAME IS JOAQUIN GARCIA, I'VE BEEN IN L.A. COUNTY SINCE

2004.I LIVE IN THE COVINA, SAN DIMAS AND GLENDORA AREA, I'M A

RETIRED GRANDFATHER AND I CAME TO THIS AREA TO TAKE CARE OF MY

GRANDSONS WHILE MY DAUGHTER WAS GOING 13:41:09TO WORK OUTSIDE

THE HOME.SHE LIVES IN THAT AREA THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IN THE

NEW CASTLE AREA.I WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE THE NEW HOME THAT MY

SON-IN-LAW AND MY DAUGHTER HAD BOUGHT IN THAT AREA.I WAS VERY

PROUD OF THE WAY IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF.I AM VERY HAPPY TO BE IN

THAT AREA AND THEN AT THIS TIME, ALL OF A SUDDEN, THIS CAME UP

WITH THIS TOWER COMING UP.I HAVE SEEN OR HEARD OF TOWERS BEING A

BAD SITE, NOT ONLY AS A BAD SITE BUT THAT DO SOME HARM TO THE

PHYSICAL HEALTH, SO I WAS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AND WHEN I

HEARD THAT THERE WAS A PERMIT TO START THIS SETUP FOR THE CELL,

I WAS VERY DETERMINED TO BE A PART OF THAT PROTEST GROUP.THERE

IS NO SIGNIFICANT GAP IN MY PHONE USE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, I'VE

BEEN A VERIZON USER FOR THE 14 YEARS, 14 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN

HERE AND THAT I'VE HAD USE OF VERIZON.I'VE HAD THREE 911 CALLS THAT I’VE HAD NO PROBLEM WITH AS WELL.I FEEL THAT REALLY THERE'S

NO NEED FOR THE TOWER, NOT ONLY FOR ITS -- THE POSSIBILITY OF

HEALTH BUT ALSO FOR ITS SIGNIFICANT UGLINESS I WOULD SAY, IT

DOES DESTROY THE LOOKS OF THE NEIGHBOR, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS A

VERY NICE PLACE TO LIVE AND AS YOU SAW EARLIER AND THE BALLOONS

SHOWING THE HEIGHT, WHAT IT WOULD DESTROY IN APPEARANCE, I THINK

THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT THING AGAINST IT.I WOULD AGAIN ASK THAT THE

PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDER AND PROTECT OURSELVES AND FAMILY

FROM THE CELL TOWER.PLEASE UPHOLD OUR APPEAL AND REJECT THE

TOWER.THANK YOU.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU, SIR.MA'AM?

>> HELLO, MY NAME IS PILAR WEISBERG, I HAVE LIVED IN L.A. COUNTY

SINCE 1996 AND I'M AN ORIGINAL OWNER AT HILL CREST ESTATES WHICH

IS DOWN THE STREET FROM THE CHURCH FOR THE PAST 15 YEAR, I

GRADUATED FROM ST. MARY'S COLLEGE WITH A DEGREE IN CHEMISTRY,

I'M A MOTHER OF TWO BOYS WHO ATTEND SCHOOL IN COVINA, ONE IS

GLEN OAK IS RIGHT UP THE STREET AND CHARTER OAK IS DOWN THE

STREET FROM ANOTHER CELL TOWER THAT THEY CAN CO-LOCATE TO.I HAVE

VERIZON CELL SERVICE AND I HAVE NEVER HAD A DROPPED CALL OR ANY

OTHER PROBLEM EVER WITH VERIZON AND I WALK AND DRIVE ALL OVER

THE COMMUNITY TO -- MY OLDEST SON WALKS TO HIS FRIEND'S HOUSE,

HE WALKS TO HIS FRIENDS HOUSE, DRIVING AND WE'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH DROPPED CALLS AND I USED TO WALK MY DOG ALL THE WAY

THROUGH THE AREAS ESPECIALLY WHERE THEY SAID THERE WAS A BIG

DROP NEAR ESSEX AND I NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH MY CELL PHONE

DROPPING A CALL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.THIS PROCESS HAS ALREADY

FAKED MY HEALTH, PEACE COMFORT AND WELFARE, WE'VE LIVED HERE NOR

15 YEARS AND WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN HAPPY TO HAVE A CHURCH IN THE

CORNER, WE'VE PARTICIPATED IN THEIR PAST EVENTS, THERE'S NO

SENSE OF COMMUNITY BETWEEN THE CHURCH AND MY FAMILY.THE

NEIGHBORHOOD IS BEAUTIFUL AND HAS KEPT ITS VALUE EVEN IN THE

HARSHEST OF TIMES, PUTTING THE CELL TOWER IN WILL DECREASE THE

VALUE OF MY HOME AND DISGUISING IT WITH A CROSS IS A SLAP IN MY

FACE.PLEASE PROTECT MY FAMILY AND NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE CELL

TOWER AND PLEASE UPHOLD OUR APPEAL AND REJECT THE TOWER.THANK

YOU.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU.

>> ( CALLING SPEAKER NAMES ).

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: GREAT, IF TWO OF YOU WILL TAKE THE SEATS AND

YOU MAY START.GOOD MORNING.PLEASE START.

>> I CAN START, OKAY, MY NAME IS JEFF KRUGER, I LIVE AT 1865

NOTTINGHAM LANE, JUST A COUPLE OF HOUSES EAST OF THE CHURCH, I PURCHASED MY HOME, MY CURRENT HOME IN 1980 BECAUSE IT WAS IN A

NICE, QUIET, ESTHETIC COMMUNITY.THE ELECTRIC LINES AND GTE PHONE

LINES WERE ALL UNDERGROUND.THAT PROVIDED US A NICE VIEW OF THE

SURROUNDING MOUNTAINS.NOW, VERIZON WANTS TO PLACE AN UGLY,

COMMERCIAL 46 FOOT TOWER IN MY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.LET VERIZON

FIND A COMMERCIALLY ZONED AREA FOR THEIR COMMERCIAL TOWER.MY

WIFE HAS A VERIZON CELL PHONE AND DOES NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEMS SO

SHE CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE HAVING A CELL PHONE TOWER IN OUR

BACKYARD.THE VIEW FROM THE BACK OF MY HOME AND FROM MY BACKYARD

WILL HAVE THIS LARGE, UGLY TOWER.I'M HERE TODAY TO TRY TO RETAIN

A COMMUNITY THAT IS A HAVEN FOR SECLUSION AND NOT OF IMPOSING

COMMERCIAL INTRUSION.THE CHURCH WHERE THE TOWER IS PROPOSED IS

SURROUNDED BY HOMES.THE CHURCH SHOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE

COMMUNITY STANDARDS, NOT WITH WHAT THEY DESIRE.THE CHURCH HAS

MADE A DECISION ON SELF INTEREST, WHICH DOES NOT TAKE INTO

EFFECT THE COMMUNITY FEELINGS THE CHURCH COULD HAVE REACHED OUT

TO THE COMMUNITY AT ANY TIME PRIOR TO THE SIGNING OF THE

CONTRACT WITH VERIZON TO DETERMINE THE COMMUNITY CONCERNS.IT DID

NOT.JUST BECAUSE THE CHURCH HAS A RIGHT TO CONTRACT WITH VERIZON

DOES NOT MAKE IT THE RIGHT THING TO DO AS FAR AS THEIR

OBLIGATIONS TO THE COMMUNITY.PLEASE HELP US KEEP OUR COMMUNITY

FROM COMMERCIAL INTRUSION.VERIZON AND THE CHURCH MAKE MONEY FROM

THE TOWER, BUT THE COMMUNITY RECEIVES NOTHING IT DOES NOT

ALREADY HAVE WHICH IS ADEQUATE CELL PHONE SERVICE, INSTEAD, THE COMMUNITY WILL RECEIVE A LARGE EYE SORE, ENCROACHING

COMMERCIALISM INTO ITS NEIGHBORHOOD, POTENTIAL LOWERED PROPERTY

VALUES AND THE POSSIBLE HEALTH WORRIES WHICH THE EXPERTS SAY

CANNOT BE GUARANTEED DO NOT EXIST.I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY

TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO THE TOWER, THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND

HOPE THAT OUR OPPOSITION IS GIVEN DUE CONSIDERATION.THANK YOU.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU.MA'AM?

>> GOOD MORNING, AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO OUR APPEAL.MY

NAME IS ROSA GALVAN, I'VE LIVED IN THE L.A. COUNTY AREA MY

ENTIRE LIFE AND HAVE BEEN A HOMEOWNER IN THE CITY OF COVINA 20

PLUS YEARS, I AM HERE BEFORE YOU ALONG WITH MY HUSBAND AND

FELLOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED

TOWER AND REQUEST YOU UPHOLD OUR APPEAL AND REJECT THE TOWER.I'M

OPPOSED TO THE TOWER LOCATION FOR MANY REASONS AND TO A LARGER

DEGREE BASED ON THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BURDEN OF PROOF,

SPECIFICALLY AS IT PERTAINS TO SECTION A, WHICH IN PART READS,

THAT THE REQUESTED USE AT THE LOCATION WILL NOT, ONE, ADVERSELY

AFFECT THE PEACE, COMFORT OF PERSONS RESIDING IN THE SURROUNDING

AREA OR TWO, THE MATERIALLY DETRIMENTAL TO THE USE, ENJOYMENT OF

PEOPLE NEAR THE PROPERTY I ALSO OPPOSE THE PROPERTY BASED ON

CURRENT COVERAGE, MY REASONS ARE, NUMBER ONE, MY HUSBAND AND I

HAVE BEEN LOYAL VERIZON CELL PHONE CUSTOMERS FOR OVER 20 YEARS, WE ARE CUSTOMERS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE EXCELLENT 100% COVERAGE.WE

USE OUR PHONES AT HOME, AT OTHER LOCATIONS AND FOR ASSISTANCE

DURING EMERGENCIES ALWAYS WITHOUT FEAR OF OR INTERRUPTION OF

SERVICE.WE HAVE NEVER HAD TO CALL VERIZON DUE TO DROPPED

CALLS.NUMBER 2, THE TOWER WOULD NOT FIT ESTHETICALLY INTO OUR

COMMUNITY.EVEN THOUGH IT WOULD BE DISGUISED, THIS DISGUISE WOULD

NOT BE SUFFICIENT TO MAKE IT APPROPRIATE FOR OUR

NEIGHBORHOOD.WHEN MY HUSBAND AND I LOOKED FOR A PLACE TO LIVE,

WE WERE ATTRACTED TO AND CHOSE OUR HOME GIVEN THAT IT WAS IN A

RESIDENTIAL AREA FREE OF COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES AND OF OBTRUSIVE

SIGNAGE, ALLOWING THE TOWER TO BE BUILT SO CLOSE TO OUR HOME

WOULD DENY US THE RIGHT TO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY THE WAY WE

INTENTIONALLY SELECTED IT AND WOULD DIMINISH OUR QUALITY OF

LIFE.NUMBER THREE, MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE PUT MUCH EFFORT MONEY

AND SWEAT EQUITY TO MAKE OUR HOME AND SPECIFICALLY OUR BACKYARD

A SANCTUARY WHERE WE CAN RETREAT AND DESTRESS FROM WHATEVER THE

DAY MAY BRING, OUR YARD IS A PLACE WHERE WE LOOK FORWARD TO

SPENDING TIME.IF YOU ALLOW THE TOWER TO BE ERECTED, IT WILL BE

LOOMING OVER US, THIS 46 FOOT STRUCTURE WITH ITS PANEL WOULD

DETRACT FROM AND SPOIL THE VIEW WE PRESENTLY ENJOY.ALSO MY

TRANQUILITY AND PEACE OF MIND WOULD BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED

BECAUSE I WOULD BE CONTINUED TO BE SUBJECTED TO ITS TOWERING

PRESENCE EVERY TIME I TAKE WALKS, RIDE MY BIKE OR IN MY CAR, IN

MY OWN VERY NEIGHBORHOOD.THIS TOWER WOULD IN FACT BE AN UNINVITED INTRUDER YET AGAIN DIMINISHING THE QUALITY OF LIFE MY

HUSBAND AND I HAVE WORKED SO HARD TO ACHIEVE.FOR THOSE THREE OF

MANY REASONS, I OPPOSE THE TOWER, PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THIS TOWER

TO BE ERECTED TO LOOM OVER OUR COMMUNITY, TO DISTURB OUR

TRANQUILITY AND UNDERMINE OUR SENSE OF PEACE, DO NOT ALLOW IT TO

DETRACT FA THE QUALITY OF LIFE WE RESIDENTS DESERVE CHOOSING TO

LIVE IN THE AREA LONG BEFORE THE PROPOSED TOWER.ONCE MORE, I

RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU SUPPORT OUR APPEAL AND REJECT THE

CONSTRUCTION OF THE CELL TOWER.THANK YOU.I WAS VERY NERVOUS,

I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: YOU DID FINE.SIR?

>> YES, HI, GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS JOE DELEON, I LIVED IN L.A.

COUNTY ALL MY LIFE, I LIVED IN THE SAN DIMAS AREA FOR OVER 10

YEAR, I APPRECIATE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING OUR APPEAL

AND ASK THE COMMISSION TO UPHOLD OUR APPEAL AND REJECT THE

PROPOSED CELL TOWER ON CHARTER OAK LED HOUSE CHURCH ON SUNFLOWER

CHURCH IN THE CITY OF CO -- COVINA, AS A PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS

OWNER FOR 20 YEAR, I'M COGNITIVE OF THE FACT THAT I HAVE THE

RIGHT TO CONDUCT BUSINESS JUST LIKE CHARTER OAK LED HOUSE CHURCH

OR VERIZON WITHOUT THE IMPEDIMENT OF A SOURCE, HOWEVER WHEN MY

BUSINESS BECOMES A NUISANCE TO THE ESTHETICS OF THE

NEIGHBORHOOD, I CHOOSE NOT TO CONDUCT BUSINESS.I ASKED CHARTER OAKS CHURCH AS A REP SEDATIVE OF THE WORD OF GOD TO CONSIDER THE

DISCORD IT'S CAUSING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND RECONSIDER ITS

DECISION TO CONSTRUCT THE CELL TOWER, I FEEL IF CHARTER OAKS

LIGHT HOUSE CHURCH AND THEIR COMMUNITY WORK TOGETHER, THEY CAN

COME TO AN AMICABLE SOLUTION IN RESOLVING FINANCIAL DEFICIENCIES

IF NECESSARY.IN ALL FAIRNESS, I ASK YOU MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING

COMMISSION, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL TOWER IN YOUR

BACKYARD OR A TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITY IN YOUR

BACKYARD?AGAIN, I ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSION, CONSIDER MY

PERSONAL TESTIMONY AND VIGOROUSLY PROTECT MYSELF AND MY FAMILY

AND MY FRIENDS FROM THE CELL TOWER, PLEASE UPHOLD OUR APPEAL AND

REJECT THE TOWER.THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND

CONSIDERATION.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU, SIR?

>> I WOULD LIKE THE THANK THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR LETTING US

SPEAK.MY NAME IS JAMES HAWITH, I LIVED IN THE COMMUNITY FOR OVER

30 YEARS IN PROXIMITY OF WHERE THEY PROPOSE TO PUT THE CELL

TOWER.I LIVE ABOUT 250 YARDS AWAY, I'M NOT SO MUCH CONCERNED FOR

MY HEALTH OR SAFETY BUT I AM CONCERNED FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT

RESIDE NEARBY BECAUSE THEY SEEM TO BE QUITE UPSET.I'M ALSO

CONCERNED FOR THE REPUTATION OF THE CHURCH BECAUSE THE CHURCH AS

YOU KNOW IS SUPPOSED TO BE COMMUNITY BASED AND CONCERNED FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE.SECOND CORINTHIAN 6: 3 SAYS GIVE OFFENSE TO

ANYTHING THAT THE MINISTRY MAY NOT BE BROUGHT INTO DISREPUTE, I

CAN ONLY THINK OF THE REASON THAT IT COULD BE PUT HERE OTHER

THAN HEALTH AND SAFETY SO PEOPLE COULD REACH EMERGENCY SERVICES

BUT IF IT'S NOT, THE ONLY PERSON SEEMS TO BE BENEFITING IS THE

CHURCH WITH THE MONEY, AND THAT SEEMS TO BE A CONFLICT BETWEEN

THE MISSION OF THE CHURCH AND THE PEOPLE THAT RESIDE

NEARBY.THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU, SIR.MA'AM?

>> HI, I'M ROSA [INAUDIBLE], I LIVE IN L.A. COUNTY SINCE 2009, I

LIVE IN SAN DIMAS RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE CHURCH, I WORK AS A

PROFESSIONAL, I'M A SPECIAL ED TEACHER FOR OVER 24 YEARS, I'M A

PARENT AND GRANDMOTHER, I APPRECIATE THE PLANNING COMMISSION

HEARING OUR APPEAL AND ASK THE COMMISSION TO UPHOLD OUR APPEAL

AND REJECT THE PROPOSED CELL TOWER AT THE CHARTER OAK LIGHTHOUSE

CHURCH ON SUNFLOWER AND COVINA.I'M SCARED TO BE AT HOME BY

MYSELF WITH THE RECENT ISSUES OF VANDALISM AND THEFT TO MY

HOME.THIS ADVERSELY AFFECTS MY HEALTH AND PEACE TO THE EXTENT OF

WHEN MY HUSBAND'S OUT OF TOWN WHO IS A PROFESSIONAL, AT MANY

TIMES, HE'S GONE, I HAVE TO GO STAY AT MY DAUGHTER'S HOME.DOUGH

DEW TO THE PASTOR'S APPROACHING ME, TAUNTING ME IN AN AGGRESSIVE

MANNER TO COME ON THEIR PROPERTY THEN TO THREATEN TO CALL THE POLICE, I FEEL THE TOWER IS UGLY, IT IS NOT IN CHARACTER WITH

OUR BEAUTIFUL AND QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD, IT WILL BE A NUISANCE JUST

LIKE THE WATER TOWERS.IT'S TALLER THAN THE TREES, LIGHT POLES

AND EVEN THE CHURCH.ALSO, CAN I HAVE A 46 FOOT TREE HOUSE BUILT

FOR MY GRANDCHILDREN?I WOULD SAY YOU GUYS WOULD NOT APPROVE

THAT.I HAVE BEEN PROTESTING THE CELL TOWER FOR OVER TWO MONTHS,

IT'S BEEN A DRAIN ON MY PERSONAL TIME AND FINANCES.I BELIEVE

THIS PROJECT WILL HURT THE VALUE OF MY PROPERTY AND IT'S AN EYE

SORE.AGAIN, I ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO CONSIDER MY

PERSONAL TESTIMONY AND VIGOROUSLY PROTECT MYSELF AND MY FAMILY

FROM THE CELL TOWER.PLEASE UPHOLD OUR APPEAL AND REJECT THE

TOWER.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU.SIR?

>> HELLO, MY NAME IS CHANG WISE BERG, I LIVE AT 1853 NEW CASTLE

LANE IN SAN DIMAS, I'VE BEEN ONE OF THE ORIGINAL HOME OWNERS IN

THE HOME HILLCREST ESTATES, I'VE BEEN AN L.A. COUNTY RESIDENT MY

ENTIRE LIFE, I'M 41 YEARS OLD AND I'M A PROFESSIONAL PROMOTER

AND EVENT PRODUCER AND I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING QUITE LIKE THIS

PROCESS AND THIS IS VERY OVERWHELMING ON OUR COMMUNITY, BUT I'M

VERY ANALYTICAL SO I'M HERE TO APPEAL TO YOU ON SEVERAL FRONTS,

THE FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS THE SIGNIFICANT

GAP ARGUMENT AND THERE DEFINITELY IS NOT A LACK OF COVERAGE.ACTUALLY, I WENT AROUND AND PRODUCED 20 VIDEOS PROVING

THAT I COULD JUMP ON MY PHONE, MAKE A PHONE CALL, THAT THERE IS

SIGNIFICANT COVERAGE ON THAT PHONE, AND I'M HOPING MAYBE IN OUR

REBUTTAL THAT I'LL USE THAT, BUT BESIDES THE MAP THAT VERIZON

PROVIDES, ALL THE THIRD PARTY KNOWLEDGE THAT'S OUT THERE WITH

SENSORLY.COM, WITH ROOT METRICS, THESE ARE THIRD PARTY WEBSITES

THAT VERIZON ENDORSES TO THEIR CUSTOMERS AND SAY, GO FOR

YOURSELF AND CHECK WHAT YOUR COVERAGE IS AND WITHOUT A DOUBT,

OUR COVERAGE IS NOT GOOD, IT'S NOT GREAT, I USE A TERM ON MY

BUSINESS, IT'S OFF THE CHAIN, IT IS AWESOME, AND WHEN SOMEONE

TELLS ME THAT THE BLUE SKY IS RED, THAT DEFINITELY THROWS UP A

RED FLAG, AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO THE APPLICATION BEING

INCOMPLETE, THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER ALTERNATIVE SITES THAT

VERIZON HASN'T CONSIDERED, THERE IS OVER 80 DAS ANTENNAS IN SAN

DIMAS AND IN COVINA THAT THEY COULD EASILY CO-LOCATE TO.THEY

COULD USE DAS, AND THERE'S ALSO AND BY FAR, THEY COULD USE THE

TELECOMMUNICATION ACT OF 1996 STATES THAT REALLY THE LEAST

INTRUSIVE WAY TO HANDLE THIS SITUATION, JUST LET THEM LOCATE TO

ONE OF THE CURRENT CELL TOWERS THAT'S NOT EVEN HALF A MILE

AWAY.THERE IS A CELL TOWER AT THE U-HAUL OFF OF COVINA AND IT'S

SHOWN RIGHT THERE WITH A CIRCLE AROUND IT, AND IF VERIZON REALLY

NEEDS TO ESTABLISH BETTER CAPACITY, WHY DON'T THEY JUST CO-

LOCATE?THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT I CAN SIT HERE AND

COMPEL TO YOU.MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS TIRED, WE'VE BEEN PROTESTING IN THE HEAT, IT IS THE MOST DIFFICULT THING ON EARTH TO KNOCK ON

DOORS, TALK TO OUR NEIGHBORS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS PROJECT

IS HAPPENING AND WHAT THEIR FEELING IS, 400 LETTERS, ALMOST 800

SIGNATURES, I'VE NEVER BEEN A PART OF ANYTHING QUITE LIKE THIS

AND I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR GENTEEN, I'M THANKFUL FOR THE PLANNING

COMMISSION TO BE HERE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, PLEASE MAKE YOUR

DECISION TODAY.DO NOT LET US LOSE OUR PEACE, DO NOT LET US

BECOME WIRELESS CELL TOWER EXPERTS FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES.I

DON'T WANT TO BE DEALING WITH THIS EVER, EVER AGAIN, AND I HOPE

YOU GUYS DO WHAT YOU CAN TO PROTECT US, TO HEAR US, TO LOOK AT

THE ANALYTICAL INFORMATION, THERE IS OVER 700 PAGES OF

INFORMATION THAT WE PROVIDED AS OUR BURDEN OF PROOF,

ESTHETICALLY, THAT TOWER AT 46 FEET IS TALLER THAN ANYTHING

ELSE, IT IS NOT IN CHARACTER WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, NO OTHER

CHURCH, THERE'S 8 OTHER CHURCHES LOCALLY, NONE OF THEM HAVE A

SEPARATE BELL TOWER WITH A TOWER ON IT.I LIVE IN A CATHOLIC

FAMILY, PUTTING A CROSS ON THE TOWER IS SACRILEGIOUS TO ME,

THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME.PLEASE UPHOLD THE TOWER.

>> ( CALLING SPEAKER NAMES ).

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: WE'VE GOT TWO SEATS, ONE OF YOU CAN TAKE IT

AND START WITH YOUR TESTIMONY.GOOD MORNING.GO AHEAD.

>> GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY NAME IS REBECCA LEGAL,

I LIVE IN L.A. COUNTY SINCE 1989, I'VE LIVED IN SAN DIMAS FOR

ALMOST 15 YEARS, AND I'M HERE TO REQUEST AS THE PLANNING

COMMISSION TO HEAR OUR APPEAL, TO UPHOLD AND REJECT THE PROPOSED

CELL TOWER AT CHARTER OAKS LIGHT HOUSE CHURCH IN SAN DIMAS, IN

SUNFLOWER, COVINA.I FEEL THAT THE TOWER IS UGLY AND IT IS NOT IN

CHARACTER WITH OUR BEAUTIFUL AND QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD.I'VE BEEN

PROTESTING THIS CELL TOWER FOR ALMOST TWO MONTHS AND IT HAS BEEN

A DRAIN ON MY PERSONAL TIME.WE SPENT TOO MUCH TIME ON THE STREET

WITH THE 105 DEGREES HEAT, THAT'S WHY I'M ALREADY TANNED BECAUSE

OF THE HEAT AND WE ARE REQUESTING THE COMMISSION TO UPHOLD THE

APPEAL AND REJECT THE PROPOSED CELL TOWER IN OUR

NEIGHBORHOOD.THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS KEN LOCKWOOD, I'M A RESIDENT OF THE

NOTTINGHAM LANE, I'M A RETIRED DETECTIVE FROM THE LOS ANGELES

POLICE DEPARTMENT WHERE I SPENT 35 YEAR, THE LAST THREE YEARS

WAS AS A SUPERVISOR IN THE BOMB SQUAD, I'M FAMILIAR WITH RF

ENERGY AND WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IS A CELL TOWER

THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE BUILT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.MY WIFE AND I

PURCHASED OUR HOUSE ON NOTTINGHAM LANE ALMOST 30 YEARS AGO AND

RAISED TWO CHILDREN, WE PICKED THIS AREA BECAUSE THIS WAS THE

CCNR'S THEY GAVE US WHEN WE MOVED IN, I DIDN'T WANT A BOAT

SITTING ON MY NEIGHBOR'S YARD, I DIDN'T WANT A CAMPER PARKED IN FRONT OF MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE, I WENT WITH A COMMUNITY WHERE THEY

EVEN HAD REGULATIONS ON THE TYPE OF STRUCTURE THAT YOU COULD PUT

FOR A WALL, THEY DON'T ALLOW WALLS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF

NOTTINGHAM, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A WROUGHT IRON FENCE BECAUSE IT

ATTRACTS FROM THE SCENIC BEAUTY, WE ALSO HAD WHEN I MOVED IN NEW

CASTLE DID NOT EXIST, THAT WAS A HORSE RANCH, THEY HAD THE

SURREY HORSES THAT RACED AROUND THERE, IT WAS ABOUT 4 AND A HALF

ACRES, IT'S NOW 13 HOMES, WE HAD OWLS, WE HAD HAWKS, WE HAD ALL

THE ANIMALS THAT COME WITH IT.I KNOW THEY'RE TRYING TO

CAMOUFLAGE THIS THING, I HOPE THEY DON'T CAMOUFLAGE THIS TOWER

SO WELL THAT IT FOOL IT IS OWLS AND THE HAWKS AND KILLS THEM.ONE

OF THE THINS I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS FIRST IS THE NOTIFICATIONS

FROM VERIZON AND THE CHURCH.THEY WERE POORLY DONE.MANY PEOPLE

WERE NOT NOTIFIED, AND I DID ATTEND THE MEETING -- PART OF THE

MEETING THEY HAD AFTER THIS HAD GONE THROUGH TO LISTEN TO SEE

WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY.ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS I HEARD FROM

PASTOR LARRY IS THEY HAD BEEN TRYING TO GET A CELL PHONE TOWER

AT THIS LOCATION FOR OVER FOUR YEARS, AND HE NEVER MENTIONED

THAT TO OUR COMMUNITY.SUNFLOWER IS THE ONLY ACCESS ROUTE TO AND

FROM OUR COMMUNITY, SO EVERY DAY, WE GET TO DRIVE BY THIS

MONSTROSITY, LARRY CLAIMS IF THERE WERE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE

NOTIFICATION, CONTACT VERIZON.I FOUND THAT A LITTLE

DISRESPECTFUL.I ALSO NOTICED THAT PASTOR LARRY IN HIS E-MAIL

REFERS TO THE CHURCH AS A SPIRITUAL OASIS WITHIN AN OCEAN OF HOMES, I BELIEVE THAT IF THAT IS THE WAY HE FEELS, WHY SHOULDN'T

HE HAVE NOTIFIED THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BROUGHT US INTO THIS AND

MADE US PART OF THE DECISION PROCESS, BECAUSE EVERYTHING WAS

DONE SCANDALOUSLY AND I THINK VERIZON SHOULD RECEIVE A REWARD

WITH HOW THEY WROTE THIS UP AND IT SHOULD START WITH ONCE UPON A

TIME BECAUSE THEY DESCRIBE THIS AS AN AGRICULTURAL AREA, THE

ONLY AGRICULTURAL AREA THAT WAS GOING ON THERE WAS WEEDS, THAT

WAS A CORNER LOT, THERE WERE NO AGRICULTURAL ACTIVITIES, OUR

PROPERTIES WERE AGRICULTURAL BACK IN THE 80'S, THE PROPERTY

BEHIND US WAS DEVELOPED IN 99, THE CHURCH WAS DEVELOPED IN THE

LATE 80'S AND HAS NOT BEEN THAT ISSUE AND ONE OF THE THINGS I

WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP, AS THEY SAY, WE AREN'T SUPPOSED TO

DISCUSS THE MEDICAL ASPECTS OF THIS, BUT IN I BELIEVE IT WAS MAY

24TH OF THIS YEAR, ALL FIVE COUNTY SUPERVISORS VOTED TO REMOVE

THE TOWERS 1, 177 TOWERS THAT WERE TO BE PLACED ON TOP OF THE

FIRE STATIONS IN L.A. COUNTY BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS.I

HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS THEY HAVE, IF IT'S NOT SAFE FOR THEM OR

THEIR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, IT'S NOT SAFE FOR US EITHER AND I PRAY

THAT YOU WILL LISTEN TO WHAT WE'VE HAD TO SAY, THAT YOU WILL

REVIEW THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE PROVIDED AND REALIZE THAT THE WAY

THIS WAS WRITTEN UP BY VERIZON, IT WAS WRITTEN UP LIKE A FAIRY

TALE, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE --.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: I'VE LET YOU GO A MINUTE OVER.

>> IT LOOKED FABULOUS MAKING THOSE TOWERS LOOK SMALL.

>> I'M A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, BACHELOR OF SCIENCE, MASTER OF

SCIENCE AND PHD OF CIVIL ENGINEERING, I LIVED IN COVINA AND SAN

DIMAS FOR A TOTAL OF 13 YEARS, I'M THE FATHER OF TWO BOYS WHO

ARE 6 AND 11 YEARS AND PROPERTY OWNER AND RESIDENT OF OAK CREST

STEAD HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION ADJACENT TO THE LIGHTHOUSE CHURCH,

1865 NEW CASTLE, MY FAMILY BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY IN MARCH OF 2013

AND MOVED IN BECAUSE MY FAMILY AND I LIKED NOT ONLY THE HOUSE

BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AND I'M MERE SITTING IN FRONT OF

YOU OPPOSING THE PLANNED CELL TOWER BASE STATION OF THE CHAPTER

CHURCH LIGHTHOUSE WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY NEAR MY HOME, THE CELL

TOWER IS USUALLY INTRUSIVE DO THE LANDSCAPE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD,

VERIZON CAN LOSE [INAUDIBLE] IN AREAS LIKE COMMERCIAL OR

INDUSTRIAL [INAUDIBLE] OR USE ULTIMATE TECHNOLOGY LIKE

DISTRIBUTED ANTENNA SYSTEM WHICH THEY CALL [INAUDIBLE] FOR

RESIDENTIAL AREAS, I'M HERE OPPOSING VERIZON'S PLAN TO INSTALL

CELL TOWERS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M ENTITLED TO HAVE A HAPPY AND

PEACEFUL LIFE, BUT THIS PROJECT WAS INITIATED FOR THREE YEARS

AND DISCLOSED TO ME AND MY FAMILY, WE WOULDN'T HAVE SOLD OUR

HOUSE AND BOUGHT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ON

THE POSSIBLE DROP IN OUR HOME VALUE AND UNESTHETIC CELL TOWER

NEXT DOOR.WHO IN THE RIGHT MIND LIKES THE VIEW OF UNESTHETIC CELL TOWER NEXT DOOR AND PAY FULL VALUE OF THE HOUSE TO MOVE IN

THE AREA WHILE THERE ARE PLENTY OF PROPERTIES IN THE MARKET THAT

ARE LESS DETRIMENTAL VIEWS TO CHOOSE FROM.OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS

VIGOROUSLY OPPOSING THIS PROJECT AS DEMONSTRATED THROUGH OUR

PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATION, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND ST SURROUNDING

NEIGHBORHOOD ARE ASKING THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION TO GIVE

CONSIDERATION TO OUR APPEAL AND UPHOLD OUR APPEAL, REJECT THE

CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION BY VERIZON.THANK YOU VERY

MUCH.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU, SIR?

>> MY NAME IS EATS, I LIVE AT 1835 NEW CASTLE LANE, SAN DIMAS,

CALIFORNIA, I GOT [INAUDIBLE] I HAVE CHEMICAL ENGINEERING

DEGREE, BEFORE THAT, I WAS DISCHARGED FROM THE UNITED STATES

MARINES.I LIVE IN L.A. COUNTY FOR THE LAST [INAUDIBLE] I WAS ONE

OF THE ORIGINAL BUYERS OF THE HOUSES WHEN -- AND I USED TO WALK

AND RUN IN THE AREA WHEN THE LOT USED TO BE LIKE A HORSE RANCH

OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.ALL THESE YEARS, WE NEVER HAD

PROBLEMS.WHEN I FIRST WAS NOTIFIED WITH THE CARD THEY SENT US

WHICH IS -- IT'S NOT A PROPER NOTIFICATION I THINK, PEOPLE WOULD

DISREGARD IT BECAUSE THEY THINK IT'S JUNK MAIL, BUT I'M FAMILIAR

WITH THE MAP, SO THAT BROUGHT MY ATTENTION.I WAS ONE OF THE GUYS

THEY SENT AN E-MAIL FOR THE ORIGINAL HEARING, AND I REQUESTED THAT THE HEARING MAYBE SHOULD BE CLOSER TO OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE

AS YOU SEE, IT'S HARD FOR US TO COME IN 30 MILES FROM WHERE THE

TOWER IS LOCATED ON A BUSINESS DAY.WE HAVE TO TAKE OFF OUR WORK,

WE HAVE TO LEAVE OUR FAMILIES AND COME TO HERE.I OPPOSE THE

TOWER AND I ASK YOU TO UPHOLD OUR APPEAL TO REJECT THE

TOWERS.THE TOWER, IF YOU READ THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, BURDEN

OF PROOF, THE FIRST ONE, EVEN THE FIRST ONE'S ALREADY BEEN

VIOLATED.WE'VE BEEN PROTESTING, BEFORE THAT, WE NEVER HAVE ANY

ISSUE WITH THE CHURCH.WE'VE BEEN PROTESTING FOR THE LAST SINCE

WE KNEW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THE TOWER OUTSIDE IN THE

HEAT, SO THAT CAUSED THE FRICTION.THE CHURCH LEADERSHIP, EVERY

TIME WE GO PROTEST, THEY BRING US THE SHERIFF, EVERY TIME, THAT

MEANS THEY'RE WASTING COUNTY RESOURCES EVERY NIGHT, EVERY DAY

THEY BRING THE SHERIFF.HE TELL THEM WE HAVE A RIGHT TO PROTEST,

BUT THEY BRING US THE SHERIFF EVERY TIME.THEY BROWSING US THIS

COVINA POLICE, THE L.A. COUNTY SHERIFF EVERY TIME AND THAT

CREATED FRICTION BETWEEN US AND THE CHURCH, THEY DON'T WANT US

TO PROTEST.I THINK MY FRIENDS HERE, THEY ALREADY -- I ALREADY

SEND A LETTER IN AUGUST 17, SO I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT WHAT'S IN

THE LETTER BEFORE MY OPPOSITION, AND AS MY FRIEND HERE ALREADY

SHOWN BY FAX WHY THE CELL TOWER IS NOT NEEDED.I NEVER HAD ANY

ISSUES WITH THE CALLING OR RECEIVING A CALL IN THE AREA.I JOG

ALMOST OR I WALK ALMOST THE ENTIRE CHARTER OAK AREA FROM GRAND

TO THE FREEWAYS DOWN IN THE VALLEYS, THE END OF VALLEY CENTER, I NEVER HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE TOWER.I HAVE MY CONCERNS REGARDING

THE INITIAL HEARING THAT WHEN NOBODY SHOWED UP BECAUSE THAT WAS

-- THEY WERE NOT PROPERLY NOTIFIED, SO AT LEAST AT THAT TIME,

THEY SHOULD HAVE QUESTIONED, WHY IS NOBODY SHOWING OPPOSITION,

SO AT LEAST THEY SHOULD HAVE AT THAT TIME EXTENDED IT BECAUSE

VERIZON AND THE CHURCH DID NOT TELL NOBODY.HE WANTED TO DO

THINGS JUST UNDER THE CARPET AND THEY THINK LIKE NOBODY

PROTESTS, WE GO AHEAD AND BUILD IT AND WE DISGUISE IT BECAUSE IF

IT'S DISGUISED, THEY THINK NOBODY WILL SEE IT, NOBODY KNOWS,

THAT'S IT, BUT WE ALREADY HAVE THREE TOWERS IN SUNFLOWER AND

OTHER HIGHWAY, WE HAVE ONE IN U-HAUL, WE HAVE ONE IN COVINA,

THERE IS NO NEED FOR ANYMORE, WE HAVE ENOUGH COVERAGE.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: SIR, YOU'RE ALMOST A MINUTE OVER YOUR TIME.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO THANK MY COMMUNITY FOR THEIR PROTEST AND

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY HAVE THIS.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU.

>> HI, MY NAME'S JAMES WEISBERG, I'M A SENIOR AT CHARTER OAK

HIGH SCHOOL, TEENAGERS PROBABLY USE THEIR PHONES THE MOST OUT OF

ANYBODY AND HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH MY PHONE, VERIZON IS

THE NUMBER ONE CARE YA, ALL MY FRIENDS LOVE THEIR PHONE, WE'RE ALWAYS ON IT, I'M ON TWITTER, NOT ONLY CAN I MAKE CALL, I CAN

TEXT AND GO ON YOU TUBE, I DO MOST OF MY HOMEWORK ON MY

PHONE.THESE PAST TWO MONTHS HAVE BEEN STRESSFUL ON MY LIFE AND

MOST OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'VE BEEN

PROTESTING FOR TWO MONTHS OUT IN THE HEAT, I'VE BEEN WITH MY SIX

YEAR-OLD BROTHER, WE HAVE HIM OUT THERE YELLING WITH THE POSTER,

NO CELL TOWERS, I'M A CATHOLIC, WE GO TO CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY AND

WE'RE ALL VERY FRIENDLY AND NEIGHBORLY, BUT I FIND THIS CHURCH

PRETTY HYPOCRITICAL TO NOT GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND ASK FOR

THEIR APPROVAL OR EVEN ASK THEM WHAT THEY EVEN THINK ABOUT IT

AND FOR THEM, WE HAD AN ANONYMOUS LETTER SAYING MY LITTLE SIX

YEAR OLD BROTHER IS THUG FOR GOING OUT THERE AND HELPING OUT

WHICH I THINK IS HYPOCRITICAL OF A CHURCH TO DO THAT, IT'S

SACRILEGIOUS, I WANTED TO SAY THAT THE CELL TOWERS BEING SET UP,

IT'S BEEN A DETRIMENT TO MY PEACE, MY EDUCATION, I SKIPPED

SCHOOL TODAY TO COME AND TALK TO YOU GUYS SO I WANT TO SAY

PLEASE UPHOLD THE APPEAL TO THE CELL TOWER AND THANK YOU VERY

MUCH.

>> MR. CHAIR, WE HAVE 15 ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS, ONE OF THEM IS THE

APPLICANT.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: WITH 15 SPEAKERS, WHY DON'T WE TAKE MAYBE

ANOTHER SHORT MAYBE 5 MINUTE RECESS.( MEETING IN RECESS UNTIL

11:20 ).

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: WE'LL START TAKING OUR SEATS, I WOULD LIKE

TO CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.THIS IS A MATTER OF PROCEDURE,

AS I UNDERSTOOD, THERE WERE 15 ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS INCLUDING THE

APPLICANT.THAT MEANS 14 NON-APPLICANT SPEAKERS, SO ALLOWING

THREE MINUTES PER EACH OF THOSE PEOPLE WILL TAKE US TO 45

MINUTES, THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE 15 MINUTES AND THE APPELLANT

HAS 15 MINUTES REBUTTAL, THAT'S 67 MINUTES IF EVERYONE WERE

SITTING RIGHT THERE AND SPEAKING CONTINUOUSLY.WE'VE ALLOWED A

NUMBER OF SPEAKERS HAVE GONE UP BEYOND THE 4 MINUTE MARK, WE'VE

ALREADY LOST ONE COMMISSIONER, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE ANOTHER

COMMISSIONER PROBABLY AROUND 12:15, THAT LEAVES US THREE, IF

ANOTHER COMMISSIONER HAS TO LEAVE FOR SOMETHING ELSE THAT WAS

SCHEDULED IN THE AFTERNOON, THEN WE LOSE A QUORUM.ONCE WE LOSE A

QUORUM, THIS MEETING WILL CEASE TO EXIST BECAUSE IT TAKES THREE

OF US TO FUNCTION AS A QUORUM AND A CONTINUANCE OF THE ITEM

REQUIRES AT LEAST THREE QUALIFIED COMMISSIONERS TO BE IN

ATTENDANCE, WHICH MEANS THE COMMISSIONERS WHO LEAVE INCLUDING

THE COMMISSIONER WHO'S ALREADY LEFT WILL HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE

TESTIMONY.IF THEY DON'T LISTEN TO IT, WE CAN'T QUALIFY, SO WE'RE

COMING CLOSE TO POTENTIALLY RUNNING OUT OF TIME ON THIS MATTER, SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT FORWARD.EVERYBODY'S ENTITLED TO THEIR

TIME AND I'M NOT GOING TO DENY THAT TIME, I WOULD JUST REQUEST

IF YOU COULD SPEED THINGS UP OR IF WHAT YOU HAVE WANTED TO STATE

HAS ALREADY BEEN STATED, I THINK WE HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE FROM

THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU DON'T WANT THIS, AND WE'VE NOT HEARD

ANYONE YET IN FAVOR OF IT, SO WE NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF

BALANCE AND SOME JUDGMENT, SO I JUST LAY THAT OUT THAT FOR US TO

TAKE ACTION TO HAVE DELIBERATIONS OF CERTAIN THING, WE TRY TO

CONCLUDE THIS SOMETIME TODAY, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU, IF YOU ARE

IN FAVOR OF THE OVERTURNING OF THE HEARING OFFICER'S DECISION,

THAT PERHAPS WHEN WE CALL YOUR NAME, EITHER JUST SAY I'M FINE

AND AT THE APPELLANT, AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE 10 MINUTE REBUTTAL BUT

I'M NOT GOING TO BLOCK IT, BUT I WANT TO CAUTION YOU THAT WE'RE

GOING TO GET TO A POINT IN TIME WHEN WE'RE GOING TO START LOSING

COMMISSIONERS AND I THINK THIS MEETING ROOM IS AVAILABLE ALL

DAY, AND STAFF IS HERE, SO LET ME JUST SAY, COUNSEL, YOU WANTED

TO SAY SOMETHING?

>> I WANTED TO ADD, IF SOMEONE HAS REMARKS THAT THEY HAVE

PREPARED IN WRITING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO READ TO THE

COMMISSION, THOSE REMARKS CAN BE SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK AND

THOSE WOULD BE A PART OF THE RECORD.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: GOOD, OKAY, WITH THAT, WE'LL CALL THE NEXT

SIX NAMES.

>> ( CALLING SPEAKER NAMES ).

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: COME ON UP.

>> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS PATRICIA MARQUEZ, I'M AN INTERNET

PEDIATRICIAN WHO HAS LIVED IN THE L.A. COUNTY FOR 49 YEARS AND I

HAVE LIVED IN COVINA SAN DIMAS SINCE 2004, 11 YEARS, I AM A

MOTHER OF FOUR CHILDREN WHO ATTEND LOCAL SCHOOLS.THERE ARE MANY

STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED BY SCIENTISTS IN DIFFERENT

COUNTRIES INCLUDING THE U.S. NAVY IN THE LAST 20-30 YEARS, THE

WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION HAS CONCLUDED FROM THESE STUDIES THAT

RADIATION FREQUENCY IS CLASSIFIED AS CLASS 2B CARCINOGEN AND, IT

HAS INCREASED AN INCREASE IN BRAIN CANCER, AND A STUDY CONDUCTED

BY THE U.S. NAVY SHOWED RADIATION FREQUENCY CAUSED BENIGN

TUMORS, METASTATIC TUMORS IN RATS, IT CAN AFFECT THE IMMUNE

SYSTEM AND CAUSE AUTOIMMUNE ILLNESSES, IT SHOWS THAT RADIATION

FREQUENCY INCREASES HORMONE PRODUCTION IN A PERSON'S GLANDS, IT

DECREASES [INAUDIBLE] WHICH ARE THE THYROID HORMONES, INCREASES

PROLACTIN, AS A RESULT, A PERSON DEVELOPS FATIGUE, DIZZINESS,

MEMORY LOSS, HEADACHES, BRAIN FOG, HINGE LING, UNABLE TO REACT

FAST, WHICH ARE SOME OF THE SYMPTOMS THAT FIREFIGHTERS WERE HAVING WHEN THE TOWERS WERE PUT ON THE ROOFS, IT CAN CAUSE

INFERTILITY.MY PERSONAL STORY WITH CANCER IS THE FOLLOWING, I

WAS DIAGNOSED WITH THYROID CANCER IN 2012 AND UNDERWENT SURGERY

IN JUNE OF 2012, TWO MONTHS LATER, MY YOUNGEST SON WAS DIAGNOSED

WITH LEUKEMIA, HE WAS 2 AND A HALF YEARS OLD AT THE TIME.HE IS

CURRENTLY ON HIS THIRD YEAR OF CHEMOTHERAPY, WE LIVE WITHIN 100

FEET OF WHERE THE CELL TOWER IS PROPOSED TO BE PUT.IT POE POSES

A HAZARD TO OUR HEALTH, CELL TOWERS CAN INCREASE CANCER BY 50%

IN PERSONS LIVING AND WORKING WITHIN 1500 FEET OF A CELL TOWER,

IN AN AVERAGE OF 5 YEARS, YOU'LL BE GETTING EXPOSED.WE NEED TO

PROTECT AND PREVENT CANCER AND ILLNESSES THAT CAN AFFECT OUR

CHILDREN, ELDERLY AND TEENS FROM RADIATION, IT IS INAPPROPRIATE

TO PLACE A CELL TOWER IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, PUTTING IN A CELL

TOWER WILL ADVERSELY AFFECT OUR HEALTH, OUR PEACE AND COMFORT,

ESPECIALLY MINE SINCE I HAVE HAD CANCER, MY SON IS CURRENTLY A

LEUKEMIA PATIENT AT CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL.I ASK THE PLANNING

COMMISSION TO PLEASE UPHOLD OUR APPEAL AND REJECT THE CELL

TOWER.THANK YOU.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU.SIR?

>> MY NAME IS EUGENE KIM, I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR OAK CREST

HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT A NARROW ISSUE

WHICH IS PROPERTY VALUE IN MY EXPERIENCE AS A PROPERTY MANAGER FOR VARIOUS HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, SOY EVE BEEN A PROPERTY

MANAGER FOR TEN YEARS, I MANAGE APPROXIMATELY 100 MILLION

DOLLARS IN ASSETS WITH OVER 1 THOUSAND DIFFERENT UNITS AND I CAN

SAY WITH REASONABLE CERTAINTY THAT HAVING A CELL TOWER ADVERSELY

AFFECTS PROPERTY VALUES AND SPECIFICALLY IT DISPROPORTIONATELY

IMPACTS RESIDENTIAL HOMES AS OPPOSED TO COMMERCIAL UNITS WHERE I

ALSO MANAGE COMMERCIAL UNITS.GENERALLY SPEAKING, HOMEOWNER

PROPERTY VALUES DECREASE ANYWHERE FROM 2-20% WITH THE EXISTENCE

OF CELL TOWERS.THAT'S NOT ONLY MY EXPERIENCE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE

APPRAISAL JOURNAL IN AN ARTICLE WRITTEN BY SANDY BOND IN THE

FALL OF 2007, SHE VERIFIES THAT FINDING AS WELL, SO THE BIG

QUESTION IS WHY.WHY IS IT THAT PROPERTY VALUES DECLINE 2-

20%?MOST OF IT DEALS WITH PERCEPTION AND MARKET VALUE, SO THERE

ARE STIGMAS ASSOCIATED WITH CELL TOWERS, AND WE'VE HEARD A

LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MEDICAL SIDE, BUT IRRESPECTIVE OF THE

MEDICINE OR ANYTHING ELSE BEHIND THAT, THERE IS THAT STIGMA,

THERE IS THAT PERCEPTION WHICH ADVERSELY AFFECTS THE MARKET

CONDITION.THE OTHER THING TOO IS MOST HOME OWNERS WHEN THEY'RE

BUYING WON'T DO TOO MUCH RESEARCH, THE CELL TOWERS ARE VERY

SIMILAR TO POWER LINES IN THAT IF THEY SEE A POWER LINE, THEY'RE

JUST NOT INCLINED TO BUY.SIMILARLY IF THEY'RE AWARE A CELL TOWER

IS THERE, THEY'RE NOT INCLINED TO BUY.THAT'S JUST THE WAY THE

MARKET WORKS.ANOTHER ADVERSE IMPACT IN TERMS OF VALUATION IS THE

HAZARD OF THE CELL TOWER FALLING, AND THE LAST THING IS THE ESTHETICS, WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE ESTHETICS IN THIS PARTICULAR

CASE, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.I UNDERSTAND IT WILL BE DISGUISED

AND LOOK LIKE A PINE TREE OF SOME SORT, BUT THE PROBLEM IN TERMS

OF VALUATION IS THAT A LOT OF BROKERS ARE NOW INCLINED TO

DISCLOSE THE EXISTENCE OF CELL TOWERS IN THE CALIFORNIA

ASSOCIATION OF REALTOR’S FIRM, SO TYPICALLY WHEN THEY'RE SELLING

A PROPERTY YOU HAVE TO DISCLOSE ALL UNKNOWN MATERIAL, DEFECTS OR

CONDITIONS THAT CAN DEVALUE A PROPERTY SO A LOT OF REAL ESTATE

AGENTS ARE ENCOURAGING THEM TO DISCLOSE THAT, EVEN IF IT'S

DISGUISED, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE VALUE BECAUSE THE HOME OWNERS

OR PROSPECTIVE BUYERS WILL BE AWARE OF THE EXISTENCE THE CELL

TOWER, SO FOR THOSE REASONS, PROPERTY VALUES TYPICALLY DECLINE

2-20%

>> MY NAME IS JOSE DIAS, I USED TO LIVE IN L.A., WHEN I MET MY

NOW WIFE A FEW YEARS AGO, WE WERE SORT OF LIKE THINKING ABOUT

THE FUTURE AND WHERE TO RAISE A FAMILY AND THAT KIND OF STUFF

AND IT SO HAPPENED THAT WE MOVE OUT TO COVINA, SO I'VE BEEN

THERE SINCE 2008.IT'S A NICE, QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD, WE LIVE IN A

CUL-DE-SAC ABOUT TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE PROPOSED TOWER AND

IT'S PEACEFUL, I GO OUT AND PLAY SOCCER AND BASEBALL WITH MY SON

AT THE CUL-DE-SAC, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS LIKE I SAID, IT'S

NICE, IT'S CLEAN, IT'S -- THE LANDSCAPE IS BEAUTIFUL AND NOW

WITH THIS PROPOSED TOWER GOING UP, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO LOOK NICE AT ALL.WE LIKE OTHER PEOPLE HERE WERE MENTIONING ABOUT

THE FACT THAT THEY GO OUT TO THE BACKYARD TO ENJOY THE REST OF

THEIR DAY OR THE WEEKENDS, WE DO THE SAME THING, AND NOW WITH

THE DRONES, YOU KNOW, BEING OUT THERE, NOW WITH THE TOWER AND

DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF MAINTENANCE THEY HAVE TO DO, I DON'T

WANT TO BE THINKING ABOUT SOMEBODY LOOKING DOWN FROM A TOWER,

YOU KNOW, DOWN INTO MY BACKYARD, SO I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD

IDEA THAT WE HAVE THIS.I WAS NEVER AWARE OF THIS UNTIL ABOUT

FIVE WEEKS AGO WHEN MY WIFE AND I WERE DRIVING ON A SUNDAY

MORNING AND WE SAW THE PEOPLE PROTESTING.WE WERE NEVER NOTIFIED

AND IF WE WERE, WHICH I HIGHLY DOUBT BECAUSE WE ASK EACH OTHER,

LIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE, IT WAS PROBABLY LIKE ONE OF THE

OTHER SPEAKERS SAID, VERY NICELY DISGUISED, WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT

WAS GOING ON, SO WE WERE NOT FAIRLY ADVISED, IF YOU WILL, ON

WHAT WAS GOING ON.SO, NOW I GOT INVOLVED IN THIS BECAUSE I HAVE

A THREE YEAR-OLD SON AND SOMEBODY ELSE, A RETIRED DETECTIVE WAS

TALKING ABOUT RAISING HIS FAMILY THERE, I PLAN TO DO THE SAME

THING, I DON'T WANT TO MOVE FROM THE AREA, I LIKE IT, AGAIN,

IT'S A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD, GOOD PEOPLE AROUND THERE AND WE DON'T

WANT THE TOWER.IT'S GOING TO LOOK UGLY AND WE'RE TRYING TO

PRESERVE THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.I'M SPEAKING HERE ON

BEHALF OF MY SON, MY WIFE AND ABOUT 12 OTHER PEOPLE THAT I CAN

NAME THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE THIS MORNING BECAUSE

UNFORTUNATELY THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO GET THEIR DAY OFF.WE HAVE GREAT COVERAGE, I'M A VERIZON CUSTOMER, IF THEY CLAIM THERE'S NO

GOOD CUSTOMER, MAYBE I SHOULD SWITCH TO AT&T, BUT I'VE BEEN A

LOYAL CUSTOMER FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS OR SO, SO THERE'S GREAT

COVERAGE IN THE AREA.WE DON'T NEED ANYMORE TOWERS AROUND THERE,

THERE'S PLENTY.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: YOUR THREE MINUTES IS UP.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> HELLO, GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY NAME IS ANTONIO

DEGO, AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER AND RECITING [INAUDIBLE] IN SAN

DIMAS, CALIFORNIA, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE CITY FOR THE LAST

13 YEARS AND [INAUDIBLE] I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK THE COMMISSION TO

UPHOLD THE APPEAL AND REJECT THE CELL TOWER AND I TALK ABOUT THE

SIGNIFICANT GAP, THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT GAP, PART OF MY WORK IS

TO BE AVAILABLE 24/7 FOR WORK AND I HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED

DROPPED CALLS, AND MY PROVIDER IS SPRINT WHICH IS THE NUMBER 4

COMPARED TO VERIZON, VERIZON IS GREAT, AND [INAUDIBLE] ALONG THE

NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO [INAUDIBLE] IT'S THE KIND

OF THING, WE HAVE BEEN WALKING FROM OUR HOUSE TO LONG HILL TO

VALLEY CENTER, CYPRESS AVENUE UP TO SAN PABLO AVENUE AND THERE

IS NO SUCH THING THAT WE WILL HAVE DROPPED CALLS, I CAN EVEN

MAKE A [INAUDIBLE] TO MY CELL PHONE.AND THERE ARE AT LEAST ALREADY FIVE NEWLY INSTALLED CELL TOWERS IN THE AREA.THERE ARE

TWO CELL TOWERS AT [INAUDIBLE] WHICH IS ABOUT LESS THAN UP A

MILE RADIUS AWAY, THERE'S ONE ON BIG LOTS, ONE AT U-HAUL AND

ANOTHER ONE AT BONDS, SO THE WAY I LOOK, THERE'S NO NEED FOR

ANYMORE CELL TOWERS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND A 46 TO 66 FEET

CELL TOWER THAT LOOKS OVER THE EXISTING STRUCTURES, MY HOUSE IS

ONLY 35 FEET AWAY FROM THE [INAUDIBLE], I DON'T WANT MY FAMILY,

MY KIDS AND MY NEIGHBORS TO BE LIVING UNDERNEATH OR IN FRONT OF

THOSE CELL ANTENNAS THAT MAKES RADIATION, AND ONE THING THAT

CANNOT BE AGREED UPON THAT THESE CELL ANTENNAS THAT WILL BE

MAKING ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION WILL BE DISGUISED WITH A CROSS,

AS A CHRISTIAN, THAT'S SYMBOL OF CHRISTIAN FAITH, FOR THEM TO DO

THAT, TO ME, THAT'S SACRILEGIOUS, AND ALSO I'M NOT ADVISING

VERIZON, BUT THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGIES THAT'S

AVAILABLE OUT THERE, WE HAVE THE SO CALLED DISTRIBUTION ANTENNA

SYSTEM THAT CAN BE [INAUDIBLE] OUR POLES, THERE ARE ALREADY A

LOT OF THEM IN SAN DIMAS, SO TO ME, THE COVERAGE IS ENOUGH, WE

DON'T NEED ANY CELL TOWERS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE HAVE BEEN

PROTESTING THIS PROJECT FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS, IT'S REALLY

TAXING AND TRAINING ON MY PERSONAL TIME AND ALSO ON OUR PEACEFUL

LIFE AND I HOPE AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE COMMISSION TO --

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: I'M GOING TO CUT YOU OFF.

>> I'M ANGELIQUE BIANCA, I WANT TO APPRECIATE YOU HEARING OUR

APPEAL AND I STRONGLY URGE YOU UPHOLD THE APPEAL, I AGREE EVERY

SINGLE POINT THAT'S BEEN MADE, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POINTS

THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AND IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANKS.

>> ( CALLING SPEAKER NAMES ).

>> MY NAME IS ROCHELLE RODRIGUEZ, I'VE LIVED IN L.A. COUNTY

SINCE 1991, I RESIDE ON NEW CASTLE LANE WITH MY HUSBAND AND NEW

DAUGHTER WHICH IS ABOUT 300 FEET FROM THE CHURCH.I APPRECIATE

THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING OUR APPEAL AND ASK THE

COMMISSION TO UPHOLD OUR APPEAL AND REJECT THE PROPOSED CELL

TOWER AT CHARTER OAK LIGHTHOUSE CHURCH IN COVINA, THERE IS NO

SIGNIFICANT GAP WHEN I’M ON MY CELL PHONE COVERAGE, I CAN MAKE

PHONE CALLS INSIDE AND OUTSIDE MY HOUSE.I CAN MAKE CALLS FROM MY

VEHICLE TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY AND HAVE NOT HAD ANY DROPPED

CALLS.I WORK IN WEST HOLLYWOOD AND I'M A CERTIFIED [INAUDIBLE]

CODER, SO I'M CONSTANTLY ON MY CELL PHONE WHETHER I'M ON

TELECONFERENCE OR WEBINAR OR JUST HAVE MULTIPLE TABS OPEN ON MY

INTERNET AND I HAVE NEVER HAD ANY ISSUE AT MY HOME, SOMETIMES I

WORK FROM 8-10 HOURS A DAY AND JUST CONSTANTLY ON THE PHONE, SO

I DON'T SEE ANY COVERAGE GAP IN OUR AREA NOR DROPPED CALLS.AND THE OTHER THING IS WHEN WE DRIVE -- WHEN I DRIVE HOME AND LEAVE

HOME, THERE'S ONLY ONE ENTRANCE IN AND OUT, AND TO SEE THE CELL

TOWER CONSTANTLY ON A DAILY BASIS I THINK JUST -- IT WILL GIVE

ME SOME KIND OF ANXIETY, IT'S AN EYE SORE AND I JUST FEEL THAT

IT'S NOT SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL TO LOOK AT AND THE OTHER THING IS

THAT WE'VE BEEN PROTESTING FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS, AND EVERY

DAY WE JUST GO THROUGH -- WE GO THROUGH A LOT OF STRESS WHEN

WE'RE AT WORK AND TO COME HOME AND HAVE TO PROTEST AND TAKE THAT

TIME AWAY FROM MY FIVE YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER THAT'S GROWING AND I'M

TRYING TO ENJOY THE TIME THAT I SPEND AND NOW IT'S BEING LIMITED

AND I THINK THAT VERIZON WILL NOT PAY ME BACK FOR THAT TIME THAT

I HAVE LOST PROTESTING.I TOTALLY OPPOSE -- I OPPOSE TO THE CELL

TOWER AND MY -- I'M DRAINED AND I JUST WANT TO HAVE YOU GUYS

SUPPORT US, I'M ASKING YOU GUYS TO SUPPORT ME AND MY FAMILY.I

BELIEVE THIS PROJECT WILL HURT THE VALUE OF MY PROPERTY AND IT'S

GOING TO BE AN EYE SORE, AGAIN, I ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO

CONSIDER MY PERSONAL TESTIMONY AND PROTECT MYSELF AND MY FAMILY

FROM THE CELL TOWER.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU.MA'AM?

>> HI, MY NAME IS SHEENA AND I'M A RESIDENT OF L.A. COUNTY FOR A

LONG TIME NOW, SINCE 1980 I THINK.I JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS, THE

MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THE CELL TOWERS AND THE SIGNIFICANT GAP, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KNOW SINCE WE ARE THE

RESIDENTS AND SO FAR VERIZON IS A BILLION OR SO DOLLAR COMPANY,

HOWEVER THEY NEVER ANSWERED TWO SIMPLE QUESTIONS, AND VERIZON

NEEDS TO ANSWER THEM, I GUESS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS, WE'RE THE

RESIDENTS AND WE WILL BE HIGHLY AFFECTED, IF THEY DON'T FEEL THE

NEED TO ANSWER US, PERHAPS THEY NEED TO ANSWER TO THE

COMMISSIONERS WHO WILL BE SPEAKING ON OUR BEHALF AND WILL BE

MAKING DECISIONS ON OUR BEHALF AS WELL.NOW, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS

THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS VERIZON SAID THEY HAVE A COVERAGE

GAP.OKAY, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY DROPPED CALLS, WHY CAN'T

THEY ANSWER THAT SIMPLE QUESTION IF THEY HAVE A GAP.THEY KNOW

THEY NEED THE TOWER, WE KNOW THEY WANT IT BECAUSE OF MAKING

MONEY, BUT WHY CAN'T THEY ANSWER ONE SIMPLE QUESTION, HOW MANY

DROPPED CALLS?IS IT 1, 100 CALLS, A THOUSAND CALLS, OR 0 DROPPED

CALLS AT ALL.SO FAR ALL THESE MONTHS OF FIGHTING AND VERIZON

THINKS THEY'RE TOO GOOD TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS TO US.ANOTHER

QUESTION IS THEY WOULD COME IN AND DEMANDED THAT THEY WANT THIS

TOWER BECAUSE THEY NEED IT AND THE COMMUNITY NEEDS IT BECAUSE OF

911.WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE -- THE SECOND QUESTION IS,

HOW MANY 911 WAS DROPPED WITH ALL WIRELESS COMPANIES?THEY MUST

KNOW THAT, OTHERWISE, THEY CLAIM THAT THEY NEEDED IT AND THEY

NEED A TOWER FOR THE BETTER GOOD OF US BUT YET THEY CANNOT

ANSWER THESE SIMPLE QUESTIONS.NUMBER ONE QUESTION IS HOW MANY

DROPPED CALLS, NUMBER 2 QUESTION IS HOW MANY 911 WAS DROPPED FOR ALL WIRELESS COMPANIES, NOW, SINCE THIS IS A CO-LOCATION SITE,

THEY SHOULD HAVE ALL THESE ANSWERS, IS IT TODAY, HOW MANY NUMBER

OF DROPPED CALLS, WHAT ABOUT 2014 SINCE THEY KNOW AND PLANNED

FOR THE CELL TOWER, HOW MANY DROPPED CALLS HAS THEREBY IN THE

COMMUNITY, ALSO IN 2015 AND AS OF TODAY, HOW MANY DROPPED CALLS,

IF THEY'RE GOOD TO ANSWER ALL QUESTIONS AS RESIDENTS, THEN

PERHAPS THEY SHOULD NOT BE TOOLED TO ANSWER THE COMMISSIONER'S

QUESTIONS, YOU REPRESENT L.A. COUNTY, THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE YOU

REPRESENT, AT LEAST YOU SHOULD GET THESE TWO QUESTIONS ANSWERED

FROM VERIZON AND I HAVE THE FLYERS IF YOU NEED THEM.THANK YOU

VERY MUCH.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU.MA'AM?

>> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME'S MIMI AND I'VE LIVED HERE SINCE 1972,

ON AUGUST 19, 2015 THROUGH AUGUST 24, 2015, VERIZON SAID, PRESS

YES TO THIS TEXT FOR SERVICE IN THE CHARTER OAK AREA, YOU

SUPPORT A NEW CHURCH TOP TOWER FACILITY ON NORTH SUNFLOWER AREA

AND THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING FROM THIS TEXT, I'LL GO INTO

THAT.SOME OF THE FLAWS OF THE VERIZON TEXT SURVEY IS THAT THE

THREE ZIP CODES INCLUDE THE CITIES OF COVINA, SAN DIMAS AND

GLENDORA, IT SHOW IT IS COVERAGE AREA FROM THE COVERAGE MAPS AND

WHAT IT REFLECTS IS IT'S ONLY ABOUT 0.5 SQUARE MILES.ESSEX AREA

IS 0.5 MILES, ONLY 2% OF THE AREA SURVEYED BY VERIZON, THE THREE ZIP CODES INCLUDE 25.5 MILES, OTHER FLAWS OF THE TEXT SURVEY

THAT SHOULD INVALIDATE THEIR TEXT SURVEY IS THEY SUBMITTED

INCOMPLETE VALUES, NO NUMBERS, OR NAMES OF LOCATIONS, NO NUMBERS

OF TEXT MESSAGES SENT, NO EVIDENCE THAT THE RESPONSES WERE IF

THE SUBJECT AREA.VERIZON ASKED THE WRONG QUESTION, THEY SHOULD

HAVE ASKED, HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED DROP CALLS OR THE INABILITY TO

MAKE CALLS OR COLLECTED, IT WAS TO ELICIT AN AFFIRMATIVE

RESPONSE WHEN THEY ASKED, DO YOU WANT BETTER SERVICE.THE SURVEY

DID NOT -- AND THIS IS WHAT'S MISSING, OFFER AN OPT-OUT OPTION,

IF IT DOESN'T OFFER AN OPT-OUT OPTION, IT'S CONSIDERED SPAM AND

ILLEGAL, THEY CAN FILE A COMPLAINT WITH THE FCC AND SUE IN SMALL

CLAIM'S COURT AND THIS IS PER THE FEDERAL TELEPHONE CONSUMER

PROTECTION ACT WHICH WAS PASSED IN OCTOBER 16, 2013 AND REQUIRES

WRITTEN CONSENT FOR ALL TEXT MESSAGES MADE FOR MARKETING

PURPOSES.THIS IS TO PREVENT TEXT SPANS ON CELL PHONES, IT

PROHIBITS THE [INAUDIBLE] ADVERTISEMENTS TO CELL PHONES AND

PAGERS, THE LAW HAS EXCEPTIONS IF THE COMPANY HAS AN EXISTING

RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SUBSCRIBER OR IF IT GIVES THE CUSTOMER AN

OPTION TO NOT RECEIVE TEXT MESSAGES SO THAT'S THE TEXT OPT-OUT

OPTION AND THAT'S THE CALIFORNIA BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONS CODE

17538.41, SINCE THERE WAS NO OPTION, IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED

SPAM THAT THEIR TEXT SURVEY SHOULD BE CONSIDERED SPAM AND SHOULD

NOT BE CONSIDERED AS A PART OF THE EVIDENCE ESPECIALLY SINCE

VERIZON PROVIDED INACCURATE STATISTICS.THANK YOU.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU, MA'AM.WERE THERE NO ADDITIONAL

SPEAKERS?

>> ( CALLING SPEAKER NAMES ).DO YOU WANT TO COME UP, PLEASE.THAT

CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS AND WE'LL CALL ON THE APPLICANT.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: GOOD, THANK YOU.

>> MY NAME'S LAWRENCE BLANCHARD, I'M A SENIOR PASTOR OF THE

CHURCH THAT'S IN QUESTION IN ALL OF THIS.I WOULD JUST LIKE TO

STATE TO THE COMMITTEE FIRST THAT WE CHOSE THIS PROJECT TO GO

FORWARD WITH IT BASICALLY ON THREE THINGS, AND THE FIRST WAS

ESTHETICS, WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH A MONOPOLE THAT WAS PROPOSED IN

OUR PARKING LOT AND SO WE HAD REJECTED THAT WITH VERIZON, WE

WENT THROUGH A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH THEM FOR PROBABLY ABOUT A

YEAR AND A HALF OR MORE AND THEN THEY PROPOSED THE TOWER.NOW,

THE TOWER WITH THE CROSS ON IT AND EVERYTHING WE FELT WAS AN

ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE OF OUR CHURCH AND IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO

OUR CHURCH, IT FIT OUR CHURCH VERY WELL AND IT PUT OUR SYMBOL OF

OUR CHRIST IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING

THAT WOULD DRAW PEOPLE TO OUR CHURCH, SO THAT WAS THE FIRST

REASON, AND WE DID REJECT OTHER PROPOSALS, THEN SECONDLY, WE

ACCEPTED THIS PROPOSAL BASED ON THE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY OF IMPROVED CELL COVERAGE AND ALSO THERE ARE NETWORK ISSUES AND ALL

OF THAT AND VERIZON JUST DOESN'T BUILD THINGS BECAUSE THEY WANT

TO BOTHER CHILDREN, IT WOULD BE CHEAPER FOR THEM NOT TO DO THIS,

SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NEEDS HERE, AND THEN THIRDLY, WE CHOSE TO

TAKE THIS PROJECT AND TO ACCEPT IT BECAUSE THERE IS A FINANCIAL

BENEFIT TO THE CHURCH AND WE DO HAVE A RIGHT TO LEASE OUR

PROPERTY FOR VARIOUS PURPOSES AS LONG AS THEY ARE PERMITTED AND

GONE THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESSES, SO YES, THERE'S A FINANCIAL

BENEFIT TO OUR CHURCH, WE'RE A SMALL CHURCH AND WE DO STRUGGLE

FINANCIALLY AND WE DO HAVE ABOUT AN 18 THOUSAND A YEAR ELECTRIC

BILL AND THIS WAS ABOUT 16 THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR, IT WOULD

OFFSET OUR ELECTRICAL BILL, IT WAS A POSITIVE BENEFIT, WE DIDN'T

JUST DO IT FOR MONEY, WE DID IT FOR ESTHETICS, WE DID IT FOR OUR

COMMUNITY AND THE OTHER THINGS, I FEEL LIKE I'VE ENTERED AN

ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE HERE WITH ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TALKING

TO YOU SO AIM ABLY, THEY PROTEST OUR CHURCH EVERY WEEK AND ON

THEIR SIGNS, THEY'RE NOT PROTESTING ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES AND

ALL THIS STUFF, THEY'RE ACCUSING OUR CHURCH OF [INAUDIBLE] THE

NEIGHBORHOOD AND BRINGING CANCER INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.THIS IS

AN EXTREME PROTEST AGAINST RF FREQUENCY RADIATION AND THE

PROTEST, THEY USE BULL HORNS AND EXTREME SCREAMING IN ORDER TO

DISRUPT OUR CHURCHES, OUR SERVICES, THEY TARGET US ON WEDNESDAYS

AND THEY TARGET US ON SUNDAYS, AND IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT

FOR US TO PROCEED WITH OUR SERVICES, THEY TALK ABOUT PEACE, WELL, WE GO OUT AND ASK THEM EVERY WEEK TO PLEASE NOT DISRUPT --

.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: SORRY, I CUT EVERYBODY OFF AT THREE MINUTES.

>> THIS IS NOT A GROUP.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: I GOT YOU.

>> IT'S AN EXTREME LEVEL.

>>

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL NAMES AND THEY

DID NOT COME FORWARD.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: JUST READ THE NAMES ONE MORE TIME.

>> ( CALLING SPEAKER NAMES ).

>> MY NAME IS MICHELLE FENTON, WE REPRESENT VERIZON WIRELESS.

>> YOU'RE WITH THE APPLICANT, CORRECT?

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: IF YOU'RE WITH THE APPLICANT -- I WANT TO

GET THE PUBLIC.

>> ( CALLING SPEAKER NAMES ).THE APPLICANT WILL SPEAK AFTER MR.

GALINDO.

>> GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU FOR HEARING OUR ARGUMENTS TODAY AND

MY NAME IS MIKE GALINDO, I'M A MEMBER OF CHARTER OAK LIGHT

HOUSE, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT FIRST OF ALL, I TOTALLY RESPECT

THE OPINIONS OF OUR COMMUNITY, THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS

CREATE HOSTILITY, I MEAN, WE'RE THERE TO REACH OUT TO OUR

COMMUNITY, WE DO NOT WANT TO CREATE A WEDGE OR BRING ANY KIND OF

FRICTION.AS A BOARD MEMBER, WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT TO OUR

ATTENTION AND WE HAD TOO MAKE A DECISION ON THE CELL TOWER, I

DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THERE WAS HOSTILITY TOWARDS THAT DECISION, I

HAD NO IDEA.NEVER ONCE DID I RECEIVE ANY KIND OF NOTICE THAT

ANYBODY WAS OPPOSED TO IT EVEN AFTER IT WAS HEARD HERE A FEW

MONTHS AGO, I FORGOT WHAT DATE THAT WAS EXACTLY, SO I HAD NO

IDEA THERE WAS OPPOSITION.ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I CONSIDERED

WAS IS THIS GOING TO BE AN EYE SORE FOR THE COMMUNITY EVEN

THOUGH I LIVE A FEW MILES AWAY, I DO CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, I

CARE ABOUT HOW OUR CHURCH LOOKS AND HOW IT APPEARS TO THE

COMMUNITY SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINS I WAS LOOKING AT, IS THIS

GOING TO BE AN EYE SORE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CROSS THERE, I BELIEVE THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING, THAT'S A MATTER OF MY OPINION,

BUT ANOTHER THING THAT REALLY DISAPPOINTS ME ABOUT THIS IS EVERY

SUNDAY AND EVERY WEDNESDAY, THE COMMUNITY'S OUT THERE MAKING

NOISE, DISRUPTING OUR WORSHIP SERVICE, WE WENT OUT THERE AND

ASKED THEM, WE REALIZE YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO PROTEST AND MORE

POWER TO YOU, BUT PLEASE RESPECT OUR WORSHIP SERVICE, THIS IS A

PLACE OF WORSHIP, OUR KIDS ARE IN THE CLASSROOM, THEY CAN'T

CONCENTRATE ON THE BIBLE STUDY BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH NOISE OUT

THERE, SO WE ASKED THEM, PLEASE RESPECT OUR PLACE OF WORSHIP, GO

THROUGH THE PROCESS, THAT'S THEIR RIGHT TO DO SO BUT PLEASE

RESPECT OUR PLACE OF WORSHIP, TO NO AVAIL, THEY SPEAK LOUDER ON

THE BULL HORN AND IT'S TOTAL DISRUPTING TO OUR PLACE OF WORSHIP,

SO I DO PRAY THAT THERE IS SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION TODAY, ONE

WAY OR THE OTHER, IF WE CAN GET SOME KIND OF PEACE, THE LAST

THING WE WANT TO DO IS CREATE FRICTION BETWEEN US AND OUR

COMMUNITY, SO I APPRECIATE THEM COMING OUT, I RESPECT THEIR

OPINIONS, THEY LIVE THERE, IF THAT'S THEIR OPINION, YOU KNOW, SO

BE IT, THAT'S THEIR OPINION, BUT PLEASE, LET'S BRING SOME

RESOLUTION TO THIS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AND WE NEED TO HAVE SOME

PEACE THERE, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU, ALRIGHT, NOW THE APPLICANT.

>> MICHELLE FELTON AND ROSS MILITAGO.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: SO WE'LL PROVIDE YOU WITH 15 MINUTES, YOU'VE

HEARD A LOT OF ARGUMENTS AGAINST -- WE WILL LISTEN TO YOUR PLEAS

NOW.

>> MUCH OBLIGED, GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, STAFF,

MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, MY

NAME IS ROSS MILITAGE, I'M A OPENING MANAGER WITH CORPS

DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, BEFORE I BEGIN AND GET INTO MY

PRESENTATION AND DISCUSS SOME OF THE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN

RAISED, I WANT TO COMMEND THE LOCAL HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION AND

RESIDENTS FOR APPEARING HERE TODAY ALTHOUGH WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE

VERY DIFFERENT OPINIONS AS TO THE MERITS OF THIS PARTICULAR

PROJECT, I CAN SAY IN ALL OF THE TIME I'VE BEEN IN SIGN

ACQUISITION, I'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH A SHOW OF OPPOSITION.BEFORE I

GET INTO SOME OF THE POINTS THAT WERE RAISED BY THE OPPOSITION,

I WOULD LIKE TO DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY WE PICKED THIS

LOCATION, WHY WE PICKED THE CHURCH, WHY WE DID WHAT WE DID AND I

HOPE THAT CAN CLARIFY A COUPLE OF ISSUES ALONG THE WAY.THIS

FACILITY AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED IS NOT NECESSARILY AIMING TO FILL

A COVERAGE GAP PER SE, IT'S NOT AIMING THE BRING SERVICE TO AN

AREA THAT DOESN'T ALREADY HAVE IT, INSTEAD WAIT'S AIMING TO DO

IS TO BRING ADDITIONAL CAPACITY TO A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS ALMOST

ENTIRELY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, SO VERIZON IS THE n THE MIDST OF A LARGE BUILD-OUT ACROSS OF ALL SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

WHERE THEY'RE NOT ONLY BUILDING A NETWORK FOR TODAY, THEY'RE

BUILDING A NETWORK FOR TOMORROW, LAND LINE PHONES ARE DECREASING

IN USE RAPIDLY, MORE PEOPLE HAVE SMART PHONE, TAB LETS, E-

READERS AND OTHER DEVICES THAT ARE EXTREMELY DATA HEAVY AND OUR

NETWORK THAT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT FOR THE LATE 90'S DOESN'T HAVE

THE NETWORK CAPACITY THAT CAN HANDLE ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS'

NEEDS, THIS IS TO DRAW NETWORK STRESS FROM OTHER FACILITY IN THE

COVINA, SAN DIMAS, THIS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO YOU CAN

THINK OF THOSE ACTING LIKE A BLANKET AND THEY REST ON TOP OF A

GIVEN AREA AND AS CUSTOMERS USE THE SIGNAL, THEY PULL ON THE

WIRES, [INAUDIBLE] SO IT'S NOT JUST THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE

BRINGING A NETWORK COVERAGE TO THE AREAS AND THE RESIDENTS IN

CHARTER OAK, IT'S ALSO WE'RE GOING TO BE IMPROVING PEOPLE LIVING

IN GLENDORA, SAN DIMAS, IN COVINA, ALL OVER THIS PART OF THE

NEIGHBORHOOD.SPECIFICALLY WE'RE AIMING TO OFF LOAD NETWORK

STRESS [INAUDIBLE] THE ASHTON SITE THAT IS FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD

TO THE SITE, ALL OF THESE ARE ABOUT A MILE OR THREE QUARTERS OF

A MILE AWAY FROM THE PREMED FACILITY, EACH ONE OF THEM IS

PROPOSING NETWORK STRAIN BECAUSE CUSTOMERS HAVE DATA HEAVY

DEVICES THAT THE OLD NETWORK IS NOT EQUIPPED TO HANDLE, IT'S

AIMING TO BRING ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENT WITH CAPACITY TO THE

AREAS SOUTH OF ARROW HIGHWAY AND SOUTH OF WALNUT CREEK, SO WE

DETERMINED THERE IS IN FACT A SIGNIFICANT CAPACITY GAP, NOT COVERAGE GAP BUT CAPACITY GAP THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT MEANS

INCLUDING DRIVE TESTS BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY CUSTOMER COMPLAINTS

AND PROJECTIONS FROM INCREASING CELL PHONE USERS IN THE

RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, WHILE WE DO HAVE THAT MAP ON THE

VERIZON WEBSITE THAT INDICATES THERE IS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL

NETWORK COVERAGE IN THE AREA, THAT'S PROJECTED NETWORK COVERAGE

ONCE THE CURRENT BUILD-OUT IS COMPLETE, IT IS NOT COMPLETE AS OF

TODAY AND OUR PROPAGATION MAPS THAT WE HAVE SUPPLIED TO THE CITY

INDICATES OUR CURRENT NETWORK CAPACITY AND COVERAGE, SO ABOUT

TWO YEARS AGO, VERIZON ISSUED US A SCOPE OF WORK TO FIND A

WIRELESS FACILITY IN AN AREA THAT'S ROUGHLY THREE QUARTERS OF A

MILE LONG AND CENTERED AROUND SUNFLOWER AVENUE AND THEY SAID, WE

HAVE WIRELESS FACILITIES HERE, HERE, HERE AND HERE, WE WANT YOU

TO LOOK IN THIS RELATIVELY NARROW SLICE OF TERRITORY AND SEE IF

YOU CAN FIND US A SPOT WHERE WE CAN PUT UP A MACROCYTE TO OFF

LOAD NETWORK STRESS FROM ALL OF THESE NETWORK TOWERS AND THAT'S

WHAT WE DID, MR. [INAUDIBLE] INDICATED THE OTHER FA SITS THAT WE

LOOKED AT BEFORE WE MOVED TO THE CHARTER OAK LIGHTHOUSE CHURCH

AND JUST TO BRING THAT UP AGAIN, THEY WERE THE SAN DIMAS

COMMUNITY HOSPITAL WHICH WAS NOT INTERESTED AT THE TIME WE

CONTACTED THEM AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THE SAN DIMAS PLANNING

DEPARTMENT WAS NOT IN SUPPORT OF A SITE IN THAT PARTICULAR

FACILITY.THE WATER TANK SITE WHICH CONTRARY TO AS PROFUSELY

MENTIONED WAS NOT RULED OUT BECAUSE OF EXPENSE, THEY WERE RULED OUT BECAUSE COVINA PUBLIC WORKS WAS NOT GOING TO ALLOW US TO

BUILD ANY HIGHER THAN THE EXISTING WATER TANK WHICH WOULD HAVE

MEANT OUR ANTENNA CENTER LINE IS AROUND 20 FEET TALL INSTEAD OF

THE 41 FEET THAT WE HAVE ON THE PREMED FACILITY.OUR CELL SITES

NEED TO HAVE LINE OF SITE TO INTERFACE WITH OTHER FACILITIES SO

IT HAS BEEN ABLE TO SEE OVER HOMES, BE ABLE TO SEE OVER TREES

AND IT NEEDS TO BE ABLE TOED GET IN CONTACT WITH THOSE OTHER

FACILITIES, OTHERWISE IT CAN'T FUNCTION AS IT SHOULD, THAT'S WHY

WE CAN'T LOCATE THEM TOO FAR OR TOO CLOSE TO EACH OTHER, WE

CAUSE RADIO INTERFERENCE IN THE EVENT WE DO THAT.WE LOOKED AT

THE CYST CHURCH OF THE VALLEY WHICH IS DOWN THE STREET ON

SUNFLOWER AVENUE AND AT THE TIME, THE LANDLORD WAS INTERESTED IN

HOSTING THE FACILITY BUT SAN DIMAS DOES NOT ALLOW GROUND MOUNTED

FACILITIES IN THEIR CITY LIMITS, IT'S PART OF THEIR ZONING

ORDINANCE AND WE LOOKED AT TAKING ONE OF THEIR BELL TOWERS AND

MOUNTING OUR FACILITY ON TOP OF THAT BELL TOWER, THIS IS

SOMETHING THAT VERIZON DOES ON A NUMBER OF SITINGS ON CHURCHES,

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT TOWER WAS SO UNSOUND WE WERE GOING TO NEED

TO TEAR IT DOWN, REBUILD IT FROM SCRATCH AND BASICALLY PUT THAT

PART OF THE BUILDING OUT OF COMMISSION FOR A GOOD THREE OR FOUR

MONTHS AND THE CHURCH WAS NOT INTERESTED IN HAVING THEIR BELL

TOWER OUT OF COMMISSION, SO WE CAN'T EXACTLY MAKE A LANDLORD

GIVE US LAND ON TERMS THAT THEY DON'T WANT, INSTEAD WE HAVE TO

FIND A NEXUS OF SITES THAT WORK FOR US FROM A SITE ACQUISITION PERSPECTIVE THAT WORK FOR THE LANDLORD AS IF THEY'RE WILLING TO

LEASE TO US AND MOST IMPORTANTLY OF ALL, THAT WORK FOR OUR RADIO

FREQUENCY ENGINEER SOS THEY CAN HIT THE AREAS THEY'RE TRYING TO

HIT AND IN THIS CASE, A SMARTER OAK LIGHT HOUSE, WE FOUND A SITE

THAT WORKS FOR ZONING IN THE SENSE THAT PLANNING HAS GONE OVER

OUR APPLICATION WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB AND SAID WE MET ALL THE

FINDINGS WE NEEDED TO MEET, THEY SAID THAT IT MATCHES THE

ESTHETICS OF THE CHURCH AND WON'T HAVE A DELETERIOUS IMPACT ON

THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE FOUND A LANDLORD OF

PASTOR LARRY THAT WAS EXTREMELY COOPERATIVE AND WAS WILLING TO

WORK WITH US HAND AND GLOVE AND WE FOUND A SITE THAT WAS WILLING

TO WORK WELL WITH OUR FREQUENTLY RADIO ENGINEER TO MEET ALL THE

TASTERS HE WANTS TO MEET AND GET ALL THE PROPAGATION WE WANTED

TO GET.[INAUDIBLE].THEY SEEM TO HAVE A LOT OF AFFIDAVITS FROM

VERIZON CUSTOMERS SAYING THEY CAN MAKE CALLS AND KUDOS FOR THEM

TO THAT, THE SITE IS NOT A COVERAGE SITE, THIS SITE IS A

CAPACITY SITE TO NOT ONLY IMPROVE CAPACITY FOR RESIDENTS RIGHT

NOW BUT AIMING TO PROVE CAPACITY FOR RESIDENTS 5, 10, 15 YEARS

INTO THE FUTURE WHEN WE PROJECT THAT LAND LINE PHONES WILL BE A

THING OF THE PAST AND LAND LINE PHONES ARE ALREADY A THING OF

THE PAST ESSENTIALLY.THIS IS A COMMERCIAL FACILITY AND A

COMMERCIAL USE ON AN AGRICULTURAL PROPERTY AND IT IS PROHIBITED

AND WE DISAGREE, THESE CELL TOWERS ARE NOT COMMERCIAL

FACILITIES, WE'RE NOT TRANSACTING BUSINESS ON THEM IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, WE DO PAY RENT TO OUR LANDLORDS IN MUCH THE WAY

SEA PAYS RENT WHEN THEY HAVE A 15:06:59LATTICE LADDER ON

SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY WE'LL BE GIVING THEM SOMETHING TO COMPENSATE

THEIR RESPECTIVE LOSS OF SPACE, WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS ARE MORE

OF A UTILITY NOW, THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE THAT USE THEIR CELLULAR

DEVICES EXCLUSIVELY FOR COMMUNICATION, FOR ACCESS TO THE

INTERNET, FOR ALL MANNER THINGS AND THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO VIEW

IT AS A UTILITY.THERE WAS ALSO A CLAIM THAT THIS PROPERTY IS

ZONED A1 AGRICULTURAL WHICH IS NOT APPROPRIATE GIVEN THAT THERE

IS A CHURCH ON THIS PARCEL AND, AGAIN, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY

DISAGREE, CHURCHES ARE A CONDITIONED USE FOR A1 AGRICULTURALLY

ZONED AREA AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, CELLULAR FACILITIES ARE ALSO AN

ALLOWED USE FOR A1 AGRICULTURALLY ZONED AREAS AND THE PLANNING

DEPARTMENT WENT OVER THIS WITH A FAIRLY FINE TOOTH COMB AND

ESSENTIALLY AGREED WITH OUR CONTENTION THAT THIS IS A PERMITTED

USE ON THIS PROPERTY GIVEN THAT WE HAVE MET ALL THE FINDINGS

NECESSARY FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.AND FINALLY I WOULD JUST

LIKE TO STRESS, COMMISSIONERS, THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS

VERY THOROUGHLY REVIEWED OUR APPLICATION, I'M QUITE IMPRESSED

WITH GENTEEN'S DILIGENCE IN GOING THROUGH OUR APPLICATION,

MAKING SURE WE HAVE ALL OF OUR I'S DOTTED, MAKING SURE WE HAVE

ALL OF OUR T'S CROSSED AND WE PRESENTED THIS TO THE PUBLIC

HEARING OFFICER ON JUNE 16TH, SHE ALSO WENT THROUGH IT WITH A

FAIRLY FINE TOOTH COMB AND DID HER DUE DILIGENCE AND AGREED WITH BOTH PLANNING AND OUR CONTENTIONS THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S

GOING TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO RESPECTFULLY, I

WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU DENY THE APPEAL, THAT YOU ALLOW US TO

BUILD THIS FACILITY AND YOU ALLOW US TO IMPROVE THE

TELECOMMUNICATION SERVICES FOR CUSTOMERS IN THIS PARTICULAR

AREA.WITH THAT, I'M MOPE TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, THANK

YOU VERY MUCH.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: DID YOU MAN ON SPEAKING?

>> I WANTED TO SAY A COUPLE MORE ITEM, MICHELLE SHELTON WITH

CORPS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HEARING US

TODAY, IMMATERIAL TO THANK EVERYBODY IN ATTENDANCE FOR

EXPRESSING THEIR VIEWS AND I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR WORKING

THROUGH THE PROJECT WITH US.THEY RECEIVED IT FROM THE VERY

BEGINNING, THEY REVIEWED THE APPLICATION, HAD DEEMED THE

APPLICATION COMPLETE AND THEN HAD WRITTEN THE STAFF REPORT, SO

THEY ACTUALLY WROTE THE STAFF REPORT THAT WENT TO THE MARKING

OFFICER THAT EXPLAINED THE PROJECT AND HOW IT DID CONFORM WITH

CURRENT CODE.WE DID AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING LEARN THERE WAS

SOME OPPOSITION WITH REGARDS TO THE PROJECT, IT HAD BEEN

NOTICED, THE COUNTY DOES ALL OF THE NOTICING, SO AFTER THE

PUBLIC HEARING, IT WAS WHEN WE WERE INFORMED THERE WAS SOME

CONCERN.WE WITH THE CHURCH HELD A PUBLIC MEETING, SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD ATTEND THAT MEETING, ASK QUESTIONS, WE HAD A

PERSON FROM UC DAVIS WHO'S A PROFESSOR UP THERE WHO SPECIALIZES

IN EMF, HAD HIM COME DOWN, ANSWER ANY POTENTIAL QUESTIONS THE

COMMUNITY MIGHT HAVE, EXPLAIN HOW IT WORKS AND EXPLAIN HOW THE

FCC HAS ADOPTED THEIR SAFE OPERATING STANDARDS.DURING THAT TIME,

WE ASKED THE PROTESTERS TO COME JOIN US, HEAR FROM THIS

PROFESSIONAL, COMPLETE THIRD PARTY AND ALSO LET US KNOW THEIR

CONCERNS AND UNFORTUNATELY AT THE TIME, A COUPLE OF PEOPLE

WANTED TO COME IN AND PARTAKE IN THAT.WE REALLY WANTED TO REACH

OUT, BE A GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD AND BE PART OF THAT COMMUNITY, HEAR

WHAT WAS GOING ON, AS ROSS EXPLAINED, OUR SEARCH AREAS ARE OFTEN

VERY SMALL, SO I KNOW THERE ARE EXISTING SITES OUT THERE, WE'RE

PRETTY CONFINED TO THE AREA, THAT WAS SUBMITTED, THAT'S WHY

THERE AREN'T A TON OF ALTERNATIVES BECAUSE THE AREA IS HEAVILY

RESIDENTIAL, THE ALTERNATIVES ARE THOSE IN THAT SMALL SEARCH

RING THAT ARE NON-RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.AGAIN, WE TRIED TO BE,

YOU KNOW, HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S ARCHITECTURALLY COMPATIBLE WITH

THE BUILDING, STAFF ALSO AGREED THAT IT FIT IN WELL WITH THE

AREA, IT MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE CODE, AND AGAIN, JUST

ASK THAT YOU DENY THIS APPEAL AND CONTINUE WITH THIS APPROVAL

THAT BOTH THE HEARING OFFICER AND STAFF HAD SUPPORTED.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU, ANY QUESTIONS OF -- ALRIGHT,

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.MUCH OBLIGED.THE APPELLANT NOW WILL HAVE A 10 MINUTE REBUTTAL PERIOD.IF YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE

RECORD, PLEASE.

>> MY NAME'S DAVID LUMAQED, ON BEHALF OF THE GROUP, I WOULD LIKE

TO RETRACT ALL REFERENCE TO RF AND HEALTH TALKED ABOUT TODAY AND

SUBMITTED IN THE PAST, I WANTED TO START WITH THAT, WE WANT TO

RETRACT THAT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, I WANT TO COMMENT ON A FEW

THINGS WHEN PASTOR LARRY TALKED ABOUT IT, I MADE THREE TO FOUR

CALLS TO HIM, HE NEVER RETURNED ANY OF HIS PHONE CALLS, WHEN ALL

OF THIS WAS HAPPENING, A COUPLE OF E-MAILS, FIVE, SIX E-MAILS

AND HE REPLIED THROUGH A LONG E-MAIL, A BOOK, WHICH I DIDN'T

WANT, I WANTED TO MEET WITH HIM BUT HE DIDN'T GIVE US THAT

OPPORTUNITY.THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THEY TALK ABOUT HERE, WHEN

THEY TALKED ABOUT A COMMUNITY MEETING, THAT WAS A VERIZON

MEETING, IT WAS MAYBE A ONE WEEK NOTICE ACCORDING TO WHAT WE SAW

AND IT SAID VERIZON ALL OVER THE PLACE, WE WANTED PEOPLE TO

COMMUNICATE, WHEN WE HEARD ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING, SOME PEOPLE

THAT DID ATTEND THIS THING, IT WASN'T A COMMUNITY MEET, OUR

COMMUNITY MEETING WAS AUGUST 30TH THIS LAST WEEKEND AND

OUTREACH, A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME IN AND SIGNED LETTERS AGAINST THE

CELL TOWER, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT THEY REFERENCE, WHAT WE

WANT TO REFERENCE, WE HAVE VIDEO THAT WE WANT TO SHOW TO SHOW

THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT GAP, THEY TALK ABOUT CAPACITY, IS IT ABOUT FUTURE CAPACITY OR CAPACITY TODAY.TODAY, IS THERE

CAPACITY, YES?

>> IS THIS PETITION FOR FUTURE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING BUT

THERE'S NO GAP TODAY, THEY'RE TELLING ME AS A CONSUMER THEIR

SITE IS FOR FUTURE CAPACITY, THEY'RE LYING TO ME, I GO OUT

THERE, THERE'S CAPACITY TODAY, I'M CONFUSED, THE ONLINE SITE IS

TELLING ME SOMETHING THAT IS FOR THE FUTURE, NOT TODAY, I DON'T

KNOW IF I HEARD THAT WRONG, LET'S PLAY THE VIDEOS, LET'S WATCH

SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WILL GIVE US A GOOD IDEA.IT'S

CALLED THE ESSEX PROJECT BECAUSE THAT'S THE AREA THAT THEY SAY

HAS THE NO COVERAGE, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PLAY SOME OF THE

VIDEOS.

>> AND I WOULD LIKE TO STATE ONE THING, IF THEY WANTED FUTURE

CAPACITY, WHY DEPARTMENT THEY PUT NIT THE FIRST PLACE IN THE

APPEAL, IF THIS WAS NOT ABOUT E911 SERVICES AND THE COVERAGE

GAP, WHY DIDN'T THEY ASK IN THE FIRST PLACE, IT’S NOT IN THEIR

APPLICATION FOR CAPACITY, THEY STATE IT'S FOR E911 AND FOR VOICE

AND DATA SERVICES, SO THESE VIDEOS ARE GOING TO ABSOLUTELY PROVE

THAT THERE ARE VOICE AND DATA CAPABILITIES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD

THAT AREN'T GOOD, THEY'RE NOT GREAT, THEY'RE OFF THE CHAIN,

THEY'RE AMAZING.LET'S GO.( SHOWING VIDEO ).

>> THE DAY BEFORE THE APPEAL, SEPTEMBER 1 AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT

AFTER 6:00, I WANTED TO DO ONE MORE TEST FOR THE PHONES THAT I

THOUGHT WOULD BE VERY COMPELLING, LET'S MAKE A PHONE CALL AND

THEN AFTER I'M GOING TO JUMP ON YOU TUBE JUST TO PROVE HOW GOOD

THE CAPACITY IS AND I'M HERE WHAT VERIZON CLAIMS TO BE THE AREA

WITH NO SIGNAL, A GAP IN COVERAGE, ON THE CORNER OF [INAUDIBLE]

AND ESSEX, I'M GOING TO START WITH A PHONE CALL, COMPLETE THE

PHONE CALL AND GO ON TO YOU TUBE TO SHOW HOW GOOD OUR RECEPTION

IS.ALRIGHT, I'M CALLING CARLA GARCIA ON MY VERIZON CONNECTION, I

HAVE FOUR BARS.

>> HELLO.

>> HI, CARLA, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> I CAN HEAR YOU.

>> YEAH, I'M CALLING YOU FROM [INAUDIBLE] AND ESSEX WHERE

THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE VERY POOR COVERAGE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE

THIS CONNECTION IS CLEAR AND YOU CAN HEAR ME WELL, IS THAT TRUE?

>> IT IS VERY CLEAR.

>> WELL, ONE OF THE REASONS IS I HAVE FOUR OUT OF FIVE BARS ON

MY I-PHONE WITH MY VERIZON SERVICE, NOW I'M GOING TO SWITCH

OVER, I'M GOING TO JUMP ON YOU TUBE TO SHOW HOW GOOD WE CAN VIEW

VIDEO AND LISTEN TO OUR CONNECT AT THAT POINT, ALRIGHT.

>> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU, BYE-BYE.

>> BYE.

>> OKAY.I'M GOING TO GO INTO YOU TUBE, HERE WE GO, LET'S SEE HOW

YOU TUBE PLAYS, THIS IS MY TRAILER STRAIGHT OUT OF COMPTON, 3

MILLION 392 VIEWS AND SOUNDS GOOD.LOOKS REALLY GOOD, MAYBE I'LL

TURN IT SIDEWAYS, SO YOU CAN SEE WE'RE STREAMING VIDEO ON THE

CORNER OF ESSEX AND VADIO MID HOUR, I THINK OUR CONNECTION IS

REALLY, REALLY GOOD.IT LOOKS -- I CAN HEAR THAT.I CAN SEE THAT,

THAT IS AWESOME.FOUR BARS ON YOU TUBE, LET'S TRY SOMETHING ELSE.

>> THERE IS ONE MORE, AND I WANT TO SHOW, THERE'S 20 VIDEOS THAT

WE'VE PRODUCED, 14 VOICE DATA CALLS FROM ALL THE POINTS OF

INTEREST THAT ARE ON OUR MAP AND THE ALTERNATIVE SITES AND

ESPECIALLY AT THE CHURCH AND IN OUR HOMES, SO I'LL SPARE YOU

THAT BUT THERE'S ONE MORE VIDEO THAT I WANT TO SHARE OUT OF THE 20 AND THAT WILL BE THE LAST DATA CALL, THE LAST DATA CALL.(

SHOWING VIDEO ).

>> THIS IS PART III OF MY FINAL KIND OF ATTEMPT TO PROVE THAT

THERE IS NO GAP, DEFINITELY NOT A SIGNIFICANT GAP IN OUR

COVERAGE OR A CAPACITY ISSUE, THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH E911, I'M

GOING TO MAKE A CALL RIGHT NOW AND LET'S SEE HOW IT GOES.I JUST

GOT FIVE BARS, HELLO?IT'S CALLING RIGHT NOW, HERE WE GO.

>> HELLO.

>> HI, CARLA, THIS IS CHANG, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> I CAN.

>> I'M CALLING YOU FROM ONE BLOCK WEST OF THE CHURCH OFF OF

[INAUDIBLE].THE CHILD CARE FACILITY OUTSIDE AND I'M GETTING

BETWEEN 4 AND 5 BARS FOR MOST OF THIS CALL, CAN YOU HEAR ME

PRETTY WELL.

>> I CAN HEAR YOU REALLY GOOD.

>> THAT'S AWESOME, I'M TRYING TO PROVE THERE IS NO GAP IN THIS

COVERAGE, THAT WE CAN MAKE CLEAR CALLS WITHOUT DROPS, WE HAVE EXCEPTIONAL STRENGTHS, FOUR OUT OF FIVE BAR ON MY I-PHONE 6 PLUS

WITH VERIZON SERVICE.I'M GOING TO HANG UP WITH YOU NOW, AFTER I

HANG UP WITH YOU, I'M GOING TO TRY TO JUMP ONLINE TO PROVE

THERE'S PLENTY OF CAPACITY HERE FOR DATA, SO I APPRECIATE YOU

TAKING THE CALL.

>> YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.

>> WE'LL TALK TO YOU SOON, TAKE CARE.

>> BYE-BYE.

>> OKAY, SO NOW LET'S GO TO YOU TUBE AND AGAIN I'M GOING TO

SEARCH STRAIGHT OUT OF COMPTON, FOUR BARS RIGHT NOW ON GOOGLE,

I'M GOING TO TRY TO WATCH A TRAILER RIGHT NOW AND IT'S BUFFERING

EXTREMELY WELL AND BOOM.WE'RE STREAMING AUDIO AND VIDEO, IT

SOUNDS AMAZING.I MEAN, THIS IS BEING STREAMED RIGHT FROM YOU

TUBE, GREAT VIDEO, GREAT AUDIO, NO BUFFERING PROBLEMS, SOUNDS

GREAT.I JUST MADE A CALL, FOUR OUT OF FIVE BARS, ONE BLOCK EAST

OF THE CHURCH, GOING RIGHT BE THIS CHILD CARE FACILITY AND I

REALLY DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER WAY TO PROVE TO PEOPLE WHO DO NOT

LIVE HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT OUR CELL COVERAGE IS FINE, IT'S

GREAT.THERE IS NO PROBLEM HERE, SO HOPEFULLY THIS REALLY HELPS

PROVE THAT POINT.THANK YOU.

>> SO, I KNOW THAT VERIZON'S GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT SEVERAL

WAYS IN WHICH THEY MEASURE SIGNALS, WHETHER IT'S DRIVE TESTS,

MAPS, AS A RESIDENT, I DON'T HAVE THE ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING

BACKGROUND THAT OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE, BUT AS A CONSUMER, IT

COMES DOWN TO MAKING PHONE CALLS, BEING ABLE TO JUMP ON YOU

TUBE, STREAMING VIDEO, STREAMING AUDIO AND OUR CAPACITY LIKE I

SAID IS AMAZING, AND WE'VE GOT 6 TOWERS WITHIN A MILE AND A

QUARTER, FOUR TOWERS WITHIN A MILE, ANOTHER TOWER WITHIN HALF A

MILE OF US, WHY CAN'T THEY JUST CO-LOCATE TO THE TOWER AND

DOUBLE THEIR CAPACITY IMMEDIATELY, AND THERE'S ANOTHER

ALTERNATIVE THAT THEY COULD USE AND THAT'S DAS, SAN DIMAS AND

COVINA HAVE EXTENSIVE DAS WHICH IS DISTRIBUTED ANTENNA SYSTEMS

THROUGHOUT THE CITY, YOU KNOW WHY?BECAUSE IT WILL BE A LOT

BETTER WHETHER THE CITY CAN MAKE THE MONEY INSTEAD OF POSSIBLE

OTHER BUSINESSES, AND IT IS EXPENSIVE, IT IS AN ALTERNATIVE,

IT'S IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY WHICH IS THE LEAST INTRUSIVE WAY

OF INCREASING CAPACITY, PERIOD, THIS IS NOT THE SPIRIT OF THE

LAW, THIS IS THE LETTER OF THE LAW.

>> AND I WANT TO ADD THAT 15:21:39FUTURE CAPACITY IS NOT WHAT

THIS IS ABOUT, THE ACT THAT WE MUST FOLLOW IS THEIR CAPACITY

TODAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COVERAGE TODAY, NOT ABOUT FUTURE

CAPACITY AND THAT'S THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT, WE WANT TO REFERENCE THAT TO FINALIZE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY AND

LET YOU KNOW IT'S NOT ABOUT FUTURE CAPACITY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT

THEY'RE SHOOTING FOR THEY ADMITTED, IT'S ABOUT CAPACITY TODAY,

IT'S ALREADY HERE.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, IT'S NOW TIME FOR --

ARE WE LOSING YOU?OKAY.COMMISSION DISCUSSION?

>> VICE CHAIR PINCETL: I HAVE A QUESTION OF STAFF.IS THERE A

SIGN ORDINANCE?DOES THE COUNTY HAVE A SIGN ORDINANCE?YES, CAN

YOU BRIEF ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HEIGHT AND SIZE AND SO ON OF

A SIGN ORDINANCE?

>> MS. NAZAR: IS THAT REFERRING TO THE VIOLATION FOR THE

BANNERS?

>> VICE CHAIR PINCETL: NO, I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT COSTS AND IF

THAT WOULD FALL UNDER A SIGN ORDINANCE OR NOT, JUST CURIOUS.

>> MS. NAZAR: THE INTERPRETATION THAT WE IS NOT A SIGN

ORDINANCE, IT'S NOT IDENTIFYING A BUSINESS, IT IS A DECORATIVE

POLE OR METAL --.

>> VICE CHAIR PINCETL: WITH A BIG CROSS ON IT LIKE THAT, IT

WOULDN'T FALL UNDER A SIGN ORDINANCE?

>> MS. NAZAR: MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT WOULD NOT.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: IT BECOMES AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE OF THE -

- IT'S PART OF THE ARCHITECTURE.

>> VICE CHAIR PINCETL: [INAUDIBLE].

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: OTHER COMMENTS?LET ME JUST START WITH THIS.A

LITTLE BACK GROWN, I GOT MY FIRST CELL PHONE IN 1983, LONG

BEFORE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD THEM, IT WAS A BIG GIANT THING IN THE

TRUNK AND I USED IT FOR A TELEPHONE.MY WIFE AND I HAVE CELL

PHONES, OUR DAUGHTERS HAVE CELL PHONES, WE HAVE TABLETS, E-

READERS, THERE'S PROBABLY IN OUR HOUSE WHEN OUR DAUGHTERS AND

SON-IN-LAW COME OVER, THERE'S AT LEAST 10 DEVICES, I HATE USING

THE TELEPHONE PERSONALLY, I WOULD SAY I USE ANY OF THOSE

DEVICES, IF THERE'S SPEAKING, IT'S LESS THAN 1 OR 2 PERCENT OF

THE TIME, AND GETTING E-MAILS ALL DAY LONG, I'M CHECKING THINGS

ON THE INTERNET, LOTS OF PIECES, I WISH YOU HAD HALF THE

COVERAGE THAT YOU PEOPLE HAVE DEMONSTRATED.I LIVE IN HILLSIDE

COMMUNITY, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF GETTING CALLS, IT'S A MATTER OF

GETTING SPEED OR ACCESS ON SOME PIECES, EVEN THE WI-FI THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE SOMETIMES IS INADEQUATE.I DON'T RECALL EVER

IN MY SERVING INITIALLY ON A CITY COUNCIL IN 1980, SERVING THREE

TERMS ON A PLANNING COMMISSION AND CERTAINLY MULTIPLE YEARS HERE

THAT I HAVE EVER VOTED AGAINST A CELL PHONE TOWER.I AM CONVINCED

BASED UPON THE TESTIMONY THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE MADE THIS MORNING

THAT VERIZON HAS NOT MADE ITS CASE, THEY HAVE NOT DEMONSTRATED -

- AND I THINK THAT THEIR MAPS THEMSELVES, IF THEY'RE SHOWING

THAT THEY GOT THE COVERAGE THAT THEY'RE SHOWING WITH A LEVEL OF

COVERAGE THAT IS THERE THAT AN ARGUMENT THAT -- THERE'S PROBABLY

NO EVIDENCE OF DROPPED CALLS, THERE'S NO EVIDENCE OF DROPPED

911'S, BUT TO BUILD A CASE UPON CAPACITY, I THINK THAT I WOULD

JUST ADVISE THAT THEY'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH AND RELOOK AT THEIR

MAPS AND IF THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO SELL TO

COMMUNITIES, THEY HAVE TO MAKE A BETTER CASE BECAUSE THEY'RE

TELLING THE COMMUNITY, WE'VE GOT GREAT COVERAGE, WE HAVE AN

EXCEPTIONAL COVERAGE AND THAT'S DEMONSTRATED, BUT IF WE'RE HERE

TO VOTE BASED UPON LACK OF COVERAGE, I DON'T THINK THE ARGUMENT

HAS BEEN MADE.I THINK IF THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD A CASE ON

CAPACITY AND FUTURE CAPACITY, THAT'S ANOTHER AREA AND I DON'T

KNOW THAT STAFF ANALYZED OR LOOKED AT THIS CASE BASED UPON THAT

AND I'M NOT SURE AND, AGAIN, ALL THE OTHER ARGUMENTS I PAID NO

ATTENTION TO AS FAR AS HEALTH RELATED ISSUES, MARKET VALUES,

OTHER SORT OF THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.I

JUST DON'T THINK THEY'VE MADE THE CASE TO ME PERSONALLY THAT THEY'VE DEMONSTRATED A NEED FOR A CELL TOWER IN THIS LOCATION TO

PROVIDE FOR COVERAGE AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'VE EVEN BEGUN,

THEY'VE MADE A VERBAL ARGUMENT AS FAR AS CAPACITY, BUT THEY HAVE

NOT DEMONSTRATED THAT THROUGH ANY SENSE OF ENGINEERING OR ANY

OTHER TYPE OF ACTIVITY, SO I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT THE APPELLANT

HAS MADE AND PROVED ITS CASE AND VERIZON IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT

AS A DE NOVO PROCESS MA NOT PROVED ITS CASE BASED UPON THE

APPLICATION WHICH HAS BEEN FILED.I DON'T KNOW THE EXTENT TO

WHICH -- MOW THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS FEEL.

>> COMMISSIONER VALADEZ: I THINK I CONCUR WITH YOU WITH

RESPECT TO THE CAPACITY BUT I THINK IT WAS ALSO IMPORTANT THAT

THEY MEET THE PEACE, WELFARE AND COMFORT OF THE PERSONS RESIDING

AND ALSO THE MATERIALLY DETRIMENTAL TO USE, ENJOYMENT AND

VALUATION OF PROPERTY I CONSIDER THOSE TO BE MOST IMPORTANT.THEY

CAME FORWARD, YES, THEY HAVE THEIR CELL PHONES BUT THEY ALSO

CAME FORWARD WITH -- YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS THE COMMUNITY THAT

IS GOING TO BE SERVED AND IT IS TELLING US THAT THEY DO NOT WANT

THIS CELL PHONE TOWER THERE AND I THINK THAT THEY HAVE MET THEIR

BURDEN OF PROOF, THE APPELLANT HAS SAID THEY ARE UNCOMFORTABLE,

THEY DON'T FEEL THEY MEET THE WELFARE, AND THEIR USE, ENJOYMENT

AND VALUATION OF THEIR PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE IMPAIRED, I THINK

THEY ALSO MADE THAT NOT JUST THE CAPACITY ISSUE WHICH OBVIOUSLY WAS NOT MADE BUT I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND THEY REALLY

GAVE US THAT TODAY.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: OTHERS?

>> COMMISSIONER LOUIE: AND, CHAIR, I'M IN AGREEMENT, I'M NOT

PERSUADED ON THE ISSUE OF GAP, I'M INTERESTED TO KNOW, COUNSEL,

DO WE HAVE FINDINGS THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH UPHOLDING THE

APPEAL?

>> I THINK IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK FOR FINDINGS FOR DENIAL IF

THAT'S THE DIRECTION THE COMMISSION IS INCLINED TO GO AND

APPEARS TO BE INCLINED TO GO UNDER THE FEDERAL

TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT, A DENIAL OF A WIRELESS APPLICATION HAS

TO BE IN WRITING AND THERE HAS BEEN TO BE SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE

TO SUPPORT THAT DECISION, I THINK THERE'S MORE THAN SUBSTANTIAL

EVIDENCE WAS PRESENTED TODAY TO SUPPORT THE DENIAL, BUT WE WOULD

HAVE TO MAKE WRITTEN FINDINGS AND BRING THOSE BACK FOR YOUR

FINAL APPROVAL.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: I WOULD PROPOSE THEN THAT THAT'S THE ROUTE

WE WOULD A TAKE, UNLESS THERE'S A REASON WE SHOULD NOT TO, THAT

STAFF LOOK CAREFULLY AT THIS FOR REASONS FOR DENIAL AND I THINK

IT'S BECAUSE THE APPLICANT HAS NOT MADE ITS CASE IN TERMS OF LACK OF COVERAGE AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF ESTHETIC ISSUES WHICH

HAVE BEEN RAISED.I'M NOT -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE COME

IN WITH VERY SPECIFIC AND NOT AREAS THAT COULD AGAIN BE --

>> I WANT TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE LEGAL ISSUES, THE APPLICATION

BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, SO THE BURDEN THAT

HAS TO BE MET TO APPROVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OR SOME OF THE

FACTORS THAT COMMISSIONER VALADEZ WAS TALKING ABOUT UNDER THE

COUNTY CODE WHICH IS THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE A FINDING THAT THE

PROPOSED USE WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT HEALTH, PEACE, COMFORT OR

WELFARE OF PERSONS MATERIALLY DETRIMENTAL TO THE USE, ENJOYMENT

OR VALUATION OF PROPERTY AND THEN ANOTHER FINDING IS THE

PROPOSED SITE IS ADEQUATE IN SIZE AND SHAPE TO ACCOMMODATE THE

YARDS, WALLS, FENCING, PARKING AND [INAUDIBLE] FACILITIES AND I

THINK THERE WAS SOME TESTIMONY TODAY THAT INDICATED THAT THAT

MAY BE 15:30:19A PROBLEM AGAIN.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL FOR THE

CHURCH IN TERMS OF ITS PARKING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN

COMPLIANCE BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME ISSUES RAISED POTENTIALLY TO

CODE ENFORCEMENT MAINLY TO LOOK AT, BUT I THINK GOING BACK TO

THAT, SO AGAIN, IF THE FINDINGS CAN BE FOUND, THAT WOULD BE --

SO, IT'S A MATTER THEN OF CONTINUING THIS WITH --

>> YES, WE WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE COMMISSION VOTE ON THEIR

INTENT TO DENY, DIRECT STAFF TO COME BACK WITH FINDINGS FOR

DENIAL, WE'LL ALSO DO THE INSPECTION THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED,

AND WE DO HAVE A DATE UNFORTUNATELY IN SEPTEMBER, WE'RE

COMPLETELY BOOKED, WE HAVE FOUR OR FIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND

COMMISSIONER MODUGNO WILL BE OUT, SO OUR SUGGESTION WOULD BE

OCTOBER 28TH.

>> OKAY.CAN I HAVE A MOTION THEN.

>> SO MOVED.

>> ALRIGHT, SO THE -- SO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> YES.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: THEN THE MOTION IS BASICALLY THE INTENT TO

DENY, WE CONTINUE TO OCTOBER 28TH AND DIRECT STAFF TO COME BACK

WITH FINDINGS FOR DENIAL.ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?ALL IF -- IN

FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: OPPOSED?FU -- THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR

TESTIMONY.[APPLAUSE].THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, WE STILL HAVE SOME

ADDITIONAL BUSINESS TO ATTEND TO.ANY REQUESTS FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT?

>> WE HAVE NO CARDS ON PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: CONTINUATION OF REPORTS, IS THERE ANYTHING?

>> COMMISSIONERS, WE PROVIDED YOU WITH A VERY BRIEF REPORT ON

CRAFT BEERS, YOU ASKED US TO REVISE THE CONDITION WHICH WE HAVE,

WE COULD EITHER DISCUSS IT TODAY IF YOU WOULD LIKE OR WE CAN

DISCUSS IT --.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: I THINK THE FACT THAT IT CAME BACK ON A

DISCUSSION ITEM, BUT THERE IS A CHANGE IN THERE THAT'S REQUESTED

TO TAKE ACTION, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE CAN TAKE ACTION ON

SOMETHING THAT'S NOT AGENDIZED, SO I WOULD SUGGEST --

>> WE'RE NOT REQUESTING FOR A VOTE, JUST GENERAL AGREEMENT WITH

THE REVISED CONDITION.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: IT'S A REVISED CONDITION, ISN'T IT SOMETHING

THAT REQUIRES APPROVAL ON OUR PART TOE?

>> NO.UNLESS COUNTY COUNSEL --

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU GUYS TYPICALLY APPROVE CONDITIONS, I

THINK THEY WERE ADVISING YOU OF THE CONDITION, IF YOU'RE ASKING

THEM FOR THEIR APPROVAL TO GO FORWARD WITH UNCERTAINTIES, I

THINK YOU MAY WANT TO AGENDIZE IT, YOU'RE ADVISING THEM THAT

THIS IS GOING TO BE THE CONDITION IN THE ALCOHOL PERMITS IN THE

FUTURE.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE ON THESE WHERE THE

PUBLIC POTENTIALLY IS AFTER -- AFFECTED, STAFF REPORTS BACK TO

US, BUT IF THE PUBLIC IS IMPACTED BY THAT POTENTIALLY BUT BEYOND

THE AGENDA, WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO PERUSE THROUGH OUR AGENDA.

>> COMMISSIONER VALADEZ: AND THERE ARE PEOPLE IN AFFECTED

AREAS THAT MAY WANT TO COME OUT AND SAY, THIS IS AN AREA WHERE

OUR CSD'S SHOULD NOT INCLUDE THAT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: I THINK JUST AS AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION ON

THIS, I THINK I PROBABLY WOULD AGENDIZE IT, UNLESS IT'S AN

INTERNAL PROCESS THAT YOU'RE JUST REPORTING TO US IS WHAT YOU'RE

DOING.

>> WE'LL PLACE IT ON THE AGENDA.

>> CHAIR MODUGNO: GREAT.ANYTHING ELSE?GOOD HEARING, THANK YOU

ALL FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE.THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED TO I THINK --

WHEN IS OUR NEXT -- SEPTEMBER THE 16TH.( MEETING IS ADJOURNED ).