Twelfth Series, Vol. V, No. 33 Thursday, July 30, 1998 Shravana 8, 1910 (Saka)

LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)

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[Twelfth Series, Vol. V. Second Session (Part-II) 199811920 (Saka)] No. 33, Thursday, July 30, 19981Sharavana 8, 1920 (Saka)

SUBJECT COLUMNS

PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE

STANDING COMMITTEE ON ENERGY 1-2 Fifth, Sixth, Seventh, Eight and Ninth Reports

EXPORT-IMPORT BANK OF (AMENDMENT) BILL-INTRODUCED 2 RE: DISMISSAL OF PRATAPSINH RANE GOVERNMENT AND APPOINTMENT OF WILFRED D'SOUZA GOVERNMENT IN GOA 2-16

MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 22-27 (i) Need for construction of a bridge at Used ghat on Chambal river in Morena district, Madhya Pradesh Shri Ashok Argal ...... 22 (ii) Need to direct Housing Board to allot plots to Co-operative Housing Societies early Shri Satya Pal Jain . . . . • ...... 22-23 (iii) Need to improve the functioning of Central Coalfields Ltd. and Bharat Coaking Coal Ltd.

Shri Ravindra Kumar Pandey . . . . . 23

(iv) Need to send a team to Jalaun in U.P. to survey crops affected by weeds Shri Bhanu Pratap Singh Verma ...... 23

(v) Need to ensure availability of drinking water to all in the country by 2000 AD Dr. B.N. Reddy . • ...... 23-24 (vi) Need to grant statehood to Vidarbha immediately Shri Vilas Muttemwar 24 (vii) Need to take over cement factory at Sawai Madhopur in Rajasthan to protec1 the interest of workers Shrimati Usha Meena ...... • . . . • . . • 24-25 (viii) Need to preserve the natural beauty of Calcutta city Shri Sudip Bandyopadhayay ..... 25 (ix) Need to provide railway facilities at Hasanganj and Purva in U.P. Shrimali Reena Chaudhary • • • . . • • . • . . 25-26 (x) Need to set up a Low Power Transmission Centre of Doordarshan in Kollam district in Kerala Shri N.K. Premachandran 26 (xi) Need to provide more funds to the State Government of Tamil Nadu for early completion of Hoganekkal drinking water scheme Shri K.P. Mohan ...... •..••••....•• 26

(I) (ii)

SUBJECT COLUMNS

(xii) Need to ensure that Jute Corporation of India purchase raw jute from jute growers directly particularly in North Bengal Shri Amar Roy Pradhan 27 STATEMENT BY MINISTER 28 Accident to Indian Airlines Dornier Aircraft at Cochin Shri Ananth Kumar 28 LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOK SABHA (2) Sixth Report on Action Ta ken by the Government on the recommendations contained in the Fifteenth Report 01 the Standing Committee on Energy (Eleventh Lok Thursday, July 30, 19981Shravana 8, Sabha) on Demands for Grants (1997-98) 1920 (Saka) relating to Ministry of Non-Conventional Energy Sources. (3) Seventh Report on Action Taken by the The Lok Sabha met at Govo:!rnment on the recommendations Eleven of the Clock c'-lntained in the Sixteenth Report of the Standing Committee on Energy (Eleventh Lok Sabha) on Demands for Grants (1997-98) [MR. SPEAKER in the Chaifj relating to Ministry of Power. ... (Interruptions) (4) Eighth Report on Action Taken by the [English] Government on the recommendations contained in the Seventeenth Report of the MR. SPEAKER : I will allow you after the papers Standing Committee on Energy (Eleventh Lok are laid on the Table of the House. Sabha) on Demands for Grants (1997-98) relating to Ministry of Coal. PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE (5) Ninth Report on Action Taken by the Annual Report and Statement regarding review Government on the recommendations by the Government of the working of the contained in the Eighteenth Report of the International Centre for Alternative Standing Committee on Energy (Eleventh Lok Dispute Resolution, New Delhi. Sabha) on the subject "Rural Electrification- Problems, Realities and Achievements". THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (DR. M. THAMBI DURAl) : Sir, I beg to lay on the Table- (1) (i) A copy of the. Annual Report (Hindi and 1103 hr•. English versions) of the International Centre for Alternative Dispute Resolution, EXPORT-IMPORT BANK OF INDIA New Delhi, for the year 1996-97, along (AMENDMENT) BILL * with Audited Accounts. {English] (ii) Statement (Hindi and English versions) THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI YASHWANT regarding Review by the Government of SINHA) : Sir, I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill the working of the International Centre further to amend the Export-Import Bank of India Act. for Alternative Dispute Resolution, New Delhi, for the year 1996-97. 1981. MR. SPEAKER : The question is : (2) Statement (Hindi and English versions) showing reasons for delay in laying the "That leave be granted to introduce a Bill papers mentioned at (1) above. further to amend the Export-Import Bank of India Act, 1981." [Placed in Library, See No. LT 1439/98] The motion was adopted SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: Sir, I Introduce the Bill. 1102 hrs. STANDING COMMITTEE ON ENERGY 1104 hr•• Fifth, Sixth, Seventh, Eighth and Ninth Report. RE: DISMISSAL OF PRATAPSINH RANE {English] GOVERNMENT AND APPOINTMENT OF SHRI K. KARUNAKARAN (Thiruvananthapuram) WILFRED D'SOUZA GOVERNMENT IN GOA Sir, I beg to present the following Reports (Hindi and English versions) of the Standing Committee on Energy :- {English] (1) Fifth Report on Action Taken by the MR. SPEAKER: The House will now take up issues Government on the recommendations pertaining to 'Zero Hour'. contained in the Fourteenth Report of the ... (Interruptions) Standing Committee on Energy (Eleventh Lok Sabha) on Demands for Grants (1997-98) • Published in the Gazette of India, Extraordinary Part-II. relating to Department of Atomic Energy Section-2, dated 30.7.98. 3 Dismissal of Pratapsinh JULY 30, 1998 Hane Government 4

SHRI BHUBANESWAR KALITA (Guwahati) : Sir, majority has to be necessarily on the floor of the democracy was murdered in Goa . ... (lnterruptions) House ... (Interruptions)

[Translation] SHRI SATYA PAL JAIN : We cannot discuss the conduct of the Governor in the House .. ,(/nterruptions) SHRI SATYA PAL JAIN (Chandigarh) : You should take care of your own party affairs ... (lnterruptions) SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER : Unfortunately, what the Governor has done is that under Article 164 of the [English1 Co n stitution ... (I nterrup tions) SHRI A.C. JOS (Mukundapuram) : You have SHRI AJIT JOGI (Raigarh) : Shri Satya Pal Jain, murdered democracy. you don't give a running commentary like this ... (Interruptions) [Translation1 SHRI CHETAN CHAUHAN (Amroha) : This is too SHRI SATYA PAL JAIN : It will disintegrate further much ... (lnterruptions) You are not to decide. You are ... (Interruptions) nobody to decide that. SHRI V. DHANANJAYA KUMAR (Mangalore) : He is MR. SPEAKER : Shri Chetan Chauhan, I allowed saying that murder has been committed. We would like Shri P. Shiv Shanker to speak. How can you question to know as to who has been murdered? He is speaking him? Please take your seat. After Shri p, Shiv Shanker of murders committed in Goa ... (Jnterruptions) speaks, you can say something. You please take your [En glis h1 seat now. Please understand the procedure. I allowed Shri P. Shiv Shanker. How can you say anything? That SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER (Tenali) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, is not the procedure. what has happened, yesterday, in Goa is nothing but a rape of the Constitution with the active connivance of ... (Interruptions) the Central Government. I charge this Government of SHRI CHETAN CHAUHAN : We represent our having connived with the Governor of Goa in dismissing Constituencies. People have expectations from us also. the Government of Rane and bringing the Government MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat, Shri Chetan of D'Souza. Chauhan. Sir, it is unfortunate that this Party, which had been SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER: I would like to make the clamouring that Article 356 has been misused and that position absolutely clear. no Government should be dismissed except when it loses the confidence on the floor of the House, has MR. SPEAKER : Today I have 63 notices for Zero generated a situation where they have not shown any Hour. I want to accommodate all the hon. Members respect to the constitutional provisions. today. SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER : I would like to submit [Translation1 that I am not discussing the conduct of the Governor, SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN (Hazipur) : What is that but I am discussing the actions of the Governor. I can testing going on there: Kindly get it stopped always find fault with the actions of the Governor without ... (Interruptions) assailing his personal conduct. I am entitled to that under the Constitution and I am exercising that right. I [En glis h1 would like to bring to your kind notice that the manner SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (Bolpur) : What is in which the Governor has saddled Wilfred De'Souza in this which is being shown on the screen in the House? the Government shows that Article 164 has been totally ... (Interruptions) twisted. Under Article 164 of the Constitution where a SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN : This is not the time for Governor could appoint a Chief Minister, he cannot making a trial of ali these things in the House appoint ipso facto under his own discretion. He has ... (Interruptions) always necessarily to go by the majority view of the legislature party. Unfortunately what he has done in this SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER: The manner in which this case is that he just saddled one person with the Chief Governm~nt has acted in conniving with the Governor Ministership and has gone to dismiss another Chief of Goa clearly gives an impression to the nation and to Minister which is setting a completely wrong precedent the world that this Government does not have any faith giving a total go by to the Constitutionalism in this In the Constitutional system. It has given a go by to the country. I would just like to briefly bring to your notice Constitutionalism and to the provisions of the the facts. Constitution ... (Interruptions) On the 24th of July, five of the MLAs were expelled. SHRI VAlKO (Slvakasi) : Who appoi"ted the This matter was brought to the notice of the Speaker Governor? ... (Interruptions) that five MLAs had been expelled. This was brought to SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER: Let us recall on this his notice on the 25th of July itself. Then, on that day, occasion the case of Shrl Somappa R. Sommai and the two UGP Members and two independents had also various other cases that have passed by where it has joined. If Jive Members had gone out of the 23 Members been decided categorically, and conventions and who were there, the total strength being 39, 18 remained, customs have been clearly laid down, that the test of. Five Members having gone, two independents and two 5 Dismissal of Pratapsinh SHRAVANA 8, 1920 (Saka) Rane Government 6

UGP Members having joined, they made the entire in the House! This is something which is very strange. situation to 22, This was the position which remained. This shows the partiality, the manner in which the I would not further go into the other details. What I Governor has acted. would like to bring to your kind notice is that-all this Having said this, I would like to bring to your kind had happened before 27th-on the 28th, the Governor notice yet a very peculiar situation in which the Central addresses a letter to the Speaker and equally a letter Government is actively conniving. The Centre's stand, to the Chief Minister... (Interruptions). The letter that he as per their spokesman is that-I am reading from what has addressed to the Speaker reads like this. The letter has appeared in The Hindusran Times-"Centre tonight has been sent to the' Speaker at 2.30 p.m. It says: distanced itself from the Governor's action by saying "The House may, on 28th July, 1998, before that he had acted on his own under Article 174 of the transacting any other business, consider and Constitution." Under Article 174 of the Constitution, the dispose of the following matters in the order Governor has to summon the House and he can indicated, namely: prorogue and dissolve the House. Can a Governor, (i) The Motion of Vote of Confidence in the without the aid and advice of the Council of Ministers, Ministry headed by Shri Pratapsinh Rane; under Article 163 of the Constitution, go to the extent of proroguing and dissolving a House? Are we giving (ii) all stages of motions or motions for which these powers to a Governor? Is this the thinking of the notices have been given but not yet taken Central Government? ... (Interruptions) up; SHRI HARIN PATHAK (Ahmedabad) : In the Gujarat (iii) passing of all the remaining budgetary affairs, we had proved our majority at Rashtrapati demands. and Bhavan when 94 MLAs were present. Yet the Government (iv) passing of the Annual Appropriation Bill and was dismissed by the then Goverrior... (Interruptions) also the Supplementary Appropriation Bill." This order has been issued by the Governor under [Translation] Article 175 (2) of the Constitution. Equally, on the same SHRIMATI BHAVNA DEVRAJBHAI CHIKHALIA day, he sent a letter to Shri Rane, the Chief Minister. At (Junagarh) : 1 he Bhartiya Janata Party Government was 2 0' clock he received that letter. The Governor says also dismissed in Gujarat by the then Governor even that by 3.30 p.m. the Chief Minister should prove his when that Government had majority. Nobody uttered a majority in the House. One-and-a-half hours' time was word at that time ... (Interruptions) given to him. While sending it to the Speaker, he said that before transacting any business, this should be [English] done. It is because 3.30 p.m. is the time when the SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER : You will have your Assembly meets. Therefore, hardly about an hour and say ... (Interruptions) a half's time was given to the Chief Minister. And, he SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN (Balasore) : He is saying proved his majority in the House. This is what has the same thing. You should first reply to this and then happened ... (Interruptions) only you should say something ... (lnterruptions) MR. SPEAKER : Please conclude. SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER: I am speaking on the SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER: Sir, this is a very important basis of the facts. You will have your say. What I am matter. So, kindly give us time. Coming to my original trying to bring to your kind notice is that this is something point, the entire business was transacted. The entire very strange. If this is the situation which the Central business was transacted for two days and all the matters Government perceives as constitutionalism, then this were completed. Then, yesterday, 10 and behold, the House could as well be prorogued or dissolved evlin Governor decided to dismiss the Chief Minister, he without the decision of the Cabinet. This is a situation installed the other Chief Minister without any rhyme or which is most unwarranted. This will create a reason, without even showing that this man has the constitutional chaos. This will be the case where the majority and he has given him twenty-one days' time. constitutionalism will be put to a test. I submit that the The one aspect which I would like to bring to your Central Government by its action, is trying to support kind notice at this stage is, the House may kindly recall the Governor and extricate itself. This extrication by that in the case of Shri Kalyan Singh in Uttar Pradesh, itself shows the active connivance of the Central when Shri Bhandari had given three days' time, the Government with the action of the Governor. entire House, and particularly the Opposition, including MR. SPEAKER : Shri Shiv Shanker, please Shri Khurana, had found fault that sufficient time was conclude. You have already taken 20 minutes. not given to the Chief Minister to prove his majority on ... (Interruptions) the floor of the House ... (Interruptions) SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: They are following SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER: It is always the case of Shri Bhandari now... (Interruptions) summoning of the House or of prorogation or of dissolution at the behest of the Cabinet. It cannot be SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER : In this case, hardly an done at the free will of the Governor... (Interruptions) hour and half's time was given to Shri Rane and surprisingly to Shri De Souza, the Governor gives twenty SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : The two groups of the one days' time for the purpose of proving the majority Congress are fighting against each other ... (Interruptions) 7 Dismissill 01 Pnrtllpsinh JULY 30, 1998 Rane Government 8

SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER : Without going further, ultimately, I came to a conclusion that the action of the what I would like to bring to your kind notice is that the Governor of Uttar Pradesh could not be ignored in the Governor has acted in a brazen manner, illegally and interest of the preservation of our democracy, and without any constitutional authority. The Governor's therefore, I allowed the Motion under Rule 184 then. It action is questionable. Therefore, I would submit that could not be discussed because the situation changed the Government should come forth Immediately with the in Uttar Pradesh and the Motion under Rule 184 was statement. They should immediately recall the Governor not moved in the House. I was not happy with that under Article 156 of the Constitution because the because I really w3nted a serious debate on the floor governor enjoys the authority during the 'pleasure' of of the House. Since it could not take place, I took this the President. matter to the Conference of the Presiding Officer' at Secondly, I would like to submit that the Government Shimla. In that Conference, the Presiding Officers passed will have to find the way out as to how the a unanimous resolution, a special resolution on U.P. constitutionalism has to be restored. It is for them to situation, on the role of the Governor. decide. They will have to find the way out to see the Sir, I think., this is a matter which we should take end of D'Souza's Government which is a usurper in very seriously as a nation. I would appeal to you, not Goa ... (lntS'rrupt/ons) to take this issue so lightly. Let us apply our mind together. Our institutions are in danger. Our country is (Translation] in danger. Our democracy is in danger. I would plead SHRI RATILAL KALIDAS VARMA (Dhandhuka) : In with the hon. Speaker to please admit a Motion under Gujarat also, the government Rule 184 and let us have a serious debate on this was dismissed by the then Governor even when the issue. Government had proved its majority... (lnterruptions) and SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : ... (Interruptions) R.J.P. Government was installed ... (lnterruptions) At least give us the time of the Question Hour also. You (English] have extended the House. So well organised the Government is. SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER (Tenali) : They will have to restore the Government of Rane. This is the only way Personally speaking, I am not surprised because out. They will have to find the way out; otherwise, this the BJP have preached many things and have breached Government are totally Incompetent and they are everything. As Shri Sangma rightly reminded us, the conniving with the Governor in unconstitutionalism fulminations, if I may use that word without any ... (Interruptions) derogatory sense, from the then OppOSition Party, from the very articulate Deputy Leader of the BJP and other SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : The Rajiv Congress Members of the BJP, against what I also said wrongful has defeated the Sonia Congress ... (lnterruptions) action of the then Governor of UP. Exactly a similar SHRI PURNO A. SANGMA (Tura) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, action has been taken. Today it is being said you have I will not take more than three minutes. I will be very done it, therefore we have done It: Therefore, let them brief. . say Congress is their idol and whatever illegalities and Sir, It Is with a lot of pain and anguish that I am unconstitutional acts they have committed, you are taking the floor. Shrl Jain said, 'why do you not take scrupulously following them. Say that, you admit that, care of your party?'. Maybe, he is very right. But today, let us understand. That is their version. the question has gone beyond party lines. Today, the Mr. Speaker Sir, I wish to express our deepest sense question is, 'how do we take care of our Constitution?'. of objection and protest against the way it has been Today, the question is, 'how do we take care of our done, it happened in Goa. The Governor has arrogated democracy?'. Today, the question is 'how do we take to himself the powers of what the Legislative Assembly care of our country?' alone holds. I am not trying to be an expert. The Supreme What has happened in Goa yesterday? Similar Court of India has categorically stated that the Governor situation happened in the State of Uttar Pradesh. I am is not chosen by the people, the Legislative Assembly not going Into that. At that particular time, I was the' is chosen by the people. Representatives of the people Presiriing Officer of this august House, and then the sit in the Legislative Chamber; they do not sit and BJP leader Shri Jaswant Singh gave a notice of operate in the Raj Bhawans. Substantive Motion under Rule 184 for recall of the But, unfortunately by grossest misuse of the Governor. The BJP Is a responsible party. Shri Jaswant ConstltlJtion the Raj Bhawans have acquired more Singh had given that notice with very careful importance than the Legislative Chambers. This is consideration. Our Institutions which have be&n created precisely what is happening. What sort of constitutional by the Constitution of India are being today denigrated. propriety Is there? A Chief Minister Is given one-and-a- I would come to that when the actual debate takes half hours time to move a motion for the vote of place. confidence. That is what we have got from the paper. I would only appeal to this House to take this Isaue Then they are aaked to immediately pass the financial very seriously because It will affect the future of our .busineas In the House because he realised that If the country and the future of our democracy. I applied my financial business was not paased wlt-hln the time mind at that time aa the Speaker of the House and allotted there will be constitutional difficulties. Therefore, 9 Dismlssa' of Prstspsinh SHRAVANA 8, 1920 (Saka) Rane Government 10 he forces the House to pass the financial Bills and then brief, per se, for Shri Rane or anybody else but the immediately dismisses the Government by withdrawing question that Shri Sangma has raised is a question of his pleasure. I cannot think of a more draconian and principle. It is a question not only of the year 1998 or more near-fascist action of the Governor. of the Twelfth Lok Sabha but it is a perennial question. It has been very categorically said by the Supreme We, in this fiftieth year of Independence, are very Court which I would like to quote just now. I hope my happy, trying to tell the world that we have passed a learned friends would not mind my quoting the Supreme formal resolution expressing our great determination to Court. They are so impatient. It was contended before continue the prinCiples of parliamentary democracy. We the Supreme Court that the Governor was justified in have asserted, reasserted and what not our faith in not giving time because it would have resulted In horse- maintaining the decorum of the House. This House trading. I am reading from the Bommai case at Page represents the nation. The Assembly represents the State 127 of 1994, three Supreme Court cases, paragraph or the people of that State. By ignoring Parliament or 118, Justice Sawant : ignoring the Assembly, it is a declaration of war against "It is not known from where the Governor got the people who have expressed their opinion. If these the information that there was horse-trading appOinted persons, these selected people will arrogate going on between the legislators. Even to themselves the power of the people of this country, we can never accept It. assuming it is so, the correct and the proper course for him to adopt was to await the test I am very sorry but I have said that I am not on the floor of the House which test the Chief surprised. I cannot expect good behaviour from them. Minister had willingly undertaken to hold". I mean, good constitutional behaviour and not personal behaviour. When it comes to pe~sonal behaviour, they He has not only willingly undertaken it, he nas in are excellent. I have the largest number of friends there. fact gone through the process. In terms of the Governor's But I cannot expect good constitutional behaviour from requisition he came to the House and obtained a vote them because of the way the Governors were appointed, of confidence. becaus& Raj Bhavans are allowed to be occupied by Then, it has been said: 'through any day and any their IAading functionaries who are active pOlitical time the Governor chose' and they have done it. partiCipants. We knew that this was going to happen Now, I quote again from the S.R. Bommai's case : and Raj Bhavans were going to be additional places of conspiracy with a Government which does not have .the "It appears that the Governor was in a hurrY mandate 01 the people, ail sorts of wonderful to dismiss the Government and dissolve the combinations. This is a Government of packages. I said Assembly." that the Prime Minister is in bond age and they are now Of course, that part has not come up because of taking the country for a ride. various reasons. We cannot but strongly protest against the misuse I now quote what the other learned judge, Justice of the Constitution. This is nothing but, I am sorry to say, Jeevan Reddy, a party of the majority, said : an addition to the list of incidents where there has been "The High Court, in our opinion, had held a rape of the Constitution through the Office of the that the floor test was not obligatory. If only Governor and we strongly protest against that. one keeps in mind the democratic principles {Translation] underlying the situation and the fact that It is only the Legislative Assembly that represents SHRI HARIN PATHAK : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have the will of the people and not the Governor, been a member of this House for the past nine years the position would be clear beyond any doubt." approximately. All of us have faith in democracy. Our constitution is the foundation of the democracy. The The.n, he goes on to observe and I quote : implementation of provisions of constitution is carried 'The loss of confidence of the House was an out through several conventions. I have been witness objective fact which could have been to this trend in the House many a times during the last demonstrated one way or the other on the five years that whenever a person, group and a political floor of the House. In our opinion, wherever party implements a provision of ~e constitution, It is a doubt arises whether the Council of examined from a different angle. My colleague and my Ministers. has lost the confidence of the senior colleagues right from Shri Sangma to Shri Shiv House the only (the Supreme Court has put Shanker and Somnath ji have mentioned the turn of It, giving emphasis, in Italics) way of testing events in Goa. It Is on the floor of the House except in When such an incident occurred in Gujarat, I was axtraordlnary situation where because of aU- a Member of this House at that time also. That act was parvaslve violence the Governor comes to a severe blow to democracy. Suresh Mehta Government conclusion ... (that It should be done some was in power in Gujarat at that time. When that other way): Government was dismissed, you did not utter ellen a No such thing has happened. This Is an single word at that time. Shrl Suresh Mehta had come extraordinary situation where a Ministry Is dismissed to Deihl with 94 MLAs. He had two mOfe MLAs on his after obtaining a vote of confidence. I a~ not holding a side to prove maJority. Those MLAs were presented 11 Dismissa/ of Pratapsinh JULY 30, 1998 Rane Government 12

[Shri Harin Pathak] (Translation] before the journalists and their number was counted, SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA : I fully agree with However, the then governor dismissed the Sangma ji that the way such incidents are occurring democratically elected government having the support and the way some defectors are joining hands to topple of four and a half crore people of Gujarat with just a the government, it sounds a warning bell for the stroke of his pen. We kept on raising our voice in the democracy. If the opposition wants, we are prepared to House. However, none of the Hon'ble Members opposed sit together to find Ollt a way to resolve this problem it at that time. None of your allied party members and ... (Interruptions) you have already spoken now let me not even Somnath Bobu stood up to oppose this also put forth my views. unconstitutional act. All of your colleagues supported So far as the issue pertaining to Goa is concerned, the view that the Governor of Gujarat was well within I will speak on It as well. Hon'ble Somnathji is a good his right to take the action that was taken in Gujarat advocate. He is a capable person and pleads his case ... (Interruptions) the House and this country will run by well but my point is that Sbri Somnath should have the same convention as are set by you. We claim to be presented this case at that time also when the matter representatives of the country ... (Interruptions) Mr. pertaining to U.P. came up ... (lnterruptions) Speaker, Sir, I would like to recount the incident that SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: We had opposed it. occurred on 21st of February, 1998. The next day i.e. on the 22nd February, the Lok Sabha elections were being [English] held in the country including Uttar Pradesh but the We have been consistently opposing this Governor of Uttar Pradesh, Shri Romesh Bhandari made ... (Interruptions) Shri Jagdamblka Pal the Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh that very night. Somnath Babu, where were you at that [Translation] time? Was it not a violation of Constitution? The SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA : You may have said Congres$, the United Front and your allied parties had so. But what I want to say is that in India ... (lnterruptions) supported it then. In this context, I would only say that You have no right to speak because you were in Cabinet what is obvious Is not always the ultimate truth. When then ... (lnterruptions) I would like to say that It has they are required to handle the matter, the action happened for the first time in the country... (Interruptions) becomes constitutional and even when it is not constitutional, it is viewed from some other [English] angle ... (lnterruptions) The Minister of Parliamentary SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : It is not correct; It Affairs. Shri Madan Lal Khurana will make his own is incorrect. I know that. What he has been trying to do point but according to the report with me, Goa is rocked to Shri Sahib Singh Verma, he is trying to refer to us by internal fight in the Congress Party. Some Congress ... (Interruptions) Members met the Governor and stated that they do not support Sonia Gandhi but they are with the Congress [Trans/ption] party formed by her husband late Shri Rajiv Gandhi. SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: I had been listening Mr. Speaker, Sir, when a democratically elected to you. My submission is that this is the first such instance government runs into problems or no longer remains in the country wherein a Cabinet dismissed the stable, It becomes the duty of the Governor to hand government under Article 356. Did we get any justice? over the governance to the person who has the majority We met the president. He revoked the orders. Where or is expected to get the support of the majority, Whatever did we get the justice from? Lok Sabha elections were action was taken in Goa, was taken in accordance with held after a day and all the Members got together to the same convention but what happened in Uttar dismiss the Kalyan Singh Government. From where did Pradesh was unconstitutional. You should express your we get justice? We got it from the court. All of you got remorse for It, This is my submission. together and hatched the conspiracy to finish the BJP THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS somehow or the time? ... (Interruptions) You are speaking AND MIN,lSTER OF TOURISM (SHRI MADAN LAL of constitutional behaviour now. I would have believe KHURANA) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I fully, agree with the you had you stated your intention to withdraw the views expressed by Sangma jl just now as to how the support to the government In case Article 356 is not Incidents of defection are occurring In the country and removed. An oral speech was given but no action was how the Governments are being dismissed. I am not taken. Hence I would like to say that this is not a serious saying so In context of Goa. Rather, I am making a problem and that is what I said at the outset also. I general point. I shall take up the Issue of Goa iater on. agree with Shri Sangma that keeping in' view the future Mr. Speaker, Sir, It Is a matter of concern ... (Interruptions) of this country and for the future of democracy, we must make' such changes in the legislation so that such [English] Incidents do not recur ... (lnterruptlons) MR. SPEAKER : No, Please sit down. [English] ... (Interruptlons) . SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : Then you are not MR. SPEAKER : No, Pleas. sit down. supporting the action of the Governor of Aoa. You have : .. (Interruptions) to say Jhat. 13 Dismissal of Pratapsinh SHRAVANA 8, 1920 (Saka) Ran. Government 14

[Translation] MAJOR GENERAL BHUVAN CHANDRA SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: I am coming to that KHANDURI, AVSM (Garhwal) : Sir, he is going on giving also. Had you restricted your speech to that point, I a speech. He is disturbing all the time ... (Interruptions) would have spoken on It but you have delievered sermons You lectured us on how to behave. But how are you instead and I am replying to that only ... (Interruptions) beh avin g now? ... (In tert uptions) SHRI BHUBANESHAR KALITA : The Governor [English] cannot function as an individual...(lnterruptions) SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : You need some MR. SPEAKER: Let him complete. good sermons and not the RSS sermons ... (lnterruptions) MR. SPEAKER : Let him complete, please. ... (Interruptions) (Translation] [Translation] SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA : You are a good SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA : Mr Speaker, Sir, advocate. You can advocate the case of murderer as kindly ask them to take their seats ... (Interruptions) well but you remained silent when democracy was Please let me conclude. The Governor has taken this murdered and that is why decision under Article 174. The Central Government has nothing to do with it. The Governor submitted his [English] report to the Ministry of Home Affairs. With regard to the you are not a good advocate ... (lnterruptions) allegation levelled by them, I have already stated that we are not involved. About Article 356, we have made SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : We are the only it clear that we will not use it against any State or party who are consistently opposing the use of P.rticle misuse it. Earlier also, we have said so and you must 356 of the Constitution. We are always opposed to this. have seen for yourself that so many months have passed No party has a better role in opposing than our party. If ... (Interruptions) and so much pressure was exerted on us that we use Article 356 against some States, the people of these MR SPEAKER : When the Minister is giving reply, States would be happy... (lnterruptions) who do you all stand up? ... (Interruptions) {English] MR. SPEAKER: Shri Athawale, please take your [Translation] seat. What is this? SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA : Mr. Speaker, Sir I ... (Interruptions) would like to say that so far as this matter is concerned I do not want to go into the details. I believe (Translation] ... (Interruptions) SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: That we know but [English] despite that we have not used Article 356. We p~a~tise PROF. P.J. KURIEN (Mavelikara) : Are you ready to what we profess. We wan~ to protect the Constitution, recall the Governor or not? You may inform us on that this is my submission ... (lntsrruptions) point. .. (Interruptions) (English] SHRI VAlKO : You do not have the right to speak SHRI RAJESH PILOT: Mr. Speaker Sir, I would like about the role of Governors ... (lntarruptions) to say something ... (lnterruptions) [Translation] MR. SPEAKER; No, Please understand the position. SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA : Please sit down ... (Interruptions) and listen to me ... (Interruptions) I am coming to that ... (lnterruptions) You had given a call in U.P. and SHRI BHUBANESWAR KALITA : Sir, he is a Member 3ujarat also ... (lnterruptions) At present, I...(lnterruptions) from Goa. He should be allowed to speak ... (lnterruptions) IVhen you were speaking, I did not intervene, Now MR. SPEAKER : You please sit down first. dndly listen to me. This was your own problem. 10 out :>f 26 members had left your party. More than one-third ... (Interruptions) members had left your party. You did not enjoy majori~y SHRI FRANCISCO SARDINHA (Marmagoa) : Sir, I in the House any longer. How the Governor took the was silently hearing the hon. Minister, Shri Khurana action thereafter; what was done, The decision regarding when he said that the Supreme Court restored the Goa taken by the Hon'ble Governor and it was his Government in UP... (lnterruptions) personal decision. This decision was taken under Article THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF 174 of Constitution. The Central Government RAILWAYS, MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ... (Interruptions) PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE (English] IN THE MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND PROGRAMME SHRI BHUBANESWAR KALiTA (Guwahati) : How can IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI RAM NAIK) : But the practice a Governor function as an individual? ... (Interruptions) of this House is that once the Minister of Parliamentary 15 Dismissal of Pratapsinh JULY 30, 1998 Rane Government 16

[Shri Ram Nalk] 11.53 hr.

Affairs has replied, the same issue will not (At this stage, Shri Francisco Sardinha and some continue ... (/nterruptions) How can the same issue be other hon. Members came and stood on the floor continued? You cannot continue the same issue for a near the Table.) long time ... (lnterruptions) MR. SPEAKER .: This is not good. MR. SPEAKER : No, not like this. .. (Interruptions) ... (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Members, please take your MR. SPEAKER : Now, Shri Ram Nalk. seats. ... (Interruptions) ... (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER : Please resume your seats. MR. SPEAKER : I have called Shri Ram Naik. ... (Interruptions) .,. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER : After raising the entire matter, this MR. SPEAKER: I know that he is from Goa. is not good. Please take your seats . ... (Interruptions) ... (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER : No, no; I have called Shri Ram MR. SPEAKER: I am appealing to you to go to your Naik. Then, he can speak. Let the Minister give his seats. views. ... (Interruptions) SHRI RAM NAIK : Sir, the deputy leader of the MR. SPEAKER: After raising the matter, this is not Congress Party has given his comments . ... (lnterruptions) the way. The ex-hon. Speaker also has given his comments. The ... (Interruptions) CPI(M) leader also has given his comments. Then, you MR. SPEAKER: No, no; what is this? called the Minister of Parliamentary Affairs to react. So, once he has given his statement, the issue should be ... (Interruptions) over. MR. SPEAKER: You have raised the matter. Now, There are many other issues which other hon. you are disturbing the House. Members want to raise. They should be allowed to raise ... (Interruptions) those issues ... (lnterruptions) MR. SPEAKER : I am appealing to you to please MR. SPEAKER: No, no, please. resume your seats. ... (Interruptions) ... (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: There are other important issues SHRI FRANCISCO SARDINHA: Sir, I was patiently to be raised. hearing the Minister of Parliamentary Affairs, Shri Khurana. As he has rightly said, the Supreme Court ... (Interruptions) restored the Government in Uttar Pradesh. Now, same MR. SPEAKER: You are obstructing other Members is the case in Goa. The Governor requested the Chief from raising other issues. Minister to prove the majority within one-and-a-half ... (Interruptions) hours .... (lnterruptions) Hare is a copy of the notice where he says that within a day, he has to finish all this MR. SPEAKER: You have already raised the matter. transaction . ... (Interruptions) The Finance Bill has been ... (Interruptions) approved. The majority has been shown in the House.. MR. SPEAKER : Please understand that your are After that, the Governor has dismissed the Chief Minister. obstructing other Member from raising their issues. For your Information, when the Speaker has taken ... (Interruptions) action,. wtlether rightly or wrongly against the Members, MR. SPEAKER: You are not allowing other Member they have gone to the High Court. The petition is to raise Issues. supposed to come up for hearing at 10.30 a.m. today. I am asking as to what Is the propriety of the Governor ... (Interruptions) to dismiss the Chief Minister. MR. SPEAKER : This is not the good way . MR. SPEAKER : Now, please take your seat. ... (lnterruptions) SHRI FRANCISCO SARDINHA: YOII must recall the MR. SPEAKER : Now, the House stands adjourned Governor Immedlately.... (/nterruptions) You must restore to meet again at 1 P.M. the Government, ... (Interruptions) 11.56 hr. MR. SPEAKER : Hon. Members, please taka your The Lok Sabha then adjourned till seats. . Thirteen of the Clock. ... (Interruptions) 17 SHRAVANA 8, 1920 (Saka) 18

13.00 hr•. [Translation] The Lok Sabha re-assembled at THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS Thirteen of the Cloak. AND MINISTER OF TOURISM : (SHRI MADAN LAL (MR. SPEAKER in the Chair) KHURANA) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to give a sad news ... (Interruptions) [Translation] [English] MR. SPEAKER: Please be seated SHRI RAVI SITARAM NAIK (Panaji) : He is ... (Interruptions) misguiding the House. [English] SHRI FRANCISCO SARDINHA : The Minister of Home Affairs should make a statement. MR. SPEAKER : Please understand, the Chair wants to make some observations. [Translation] SHRI FRANCISCO SARDINHA : Let me first make SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA : I have to convey a my point... (Interruptions) sad news to the House. A small Dornier aeroplane I.C. 503 carrying three passengers and three crew members MR. SPEAKER : Please allow me to make some from Cochin to Trivendram has met with an accident. As observations. this accident has taken place after 11 0' clock, the Civil ... (Interruptions) Aviation Minister would make a statement in the House by today evening with full facts ... (lnterruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Please hear me first. SHRI BHUBANESWAR KALITA (Guwahati) : A ... (Interruptions) statement should also be given regarding the 12 people SHRI TATHAGATA SATPATHY (Dhenkanal) killed in a bomb blast in Assam... (Interruptions) Yesterday, when Shri Yarrannaidu was in the Chair, he told me that he would put my name at the top ... [English] (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER : What about this? MR. SPEAKER: You should hear me first. SHRI A.C. JOS (Mukundapuram) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, we want more details regarding the c~ash of the Dormer I have received a notice from Hon. Ajit Jogi and aircraft. Hon. P.J. Kurien, under Rule 184 of the Rules of Procedure. I am having the matter examined with MR. SPEAKER: The Minister of Civil Aviation Is reference to the facts of the case for which I am calling going to make a statement on It. an official report from the Ministry of Home Affairs. I ... (Interruptions) shall take a decision on the matter and get back to the MR. SPEAKER : Would the Home Minister like to House. respond in regard to the notice of Motion under Rule I would also like to intimate the hon. Members that 184? this afternoon I have fixed a meeting of the BAC to THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI L.K. discuss the business of the House. Members of the ADVANI) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, so far as the development BAC will have an opportunity to raise the matter in the in Goa are concerned, I believe what you just now said BAC as well. In the circumstances, I request all the had a reference to that. You said that you had received Members to keep peace and facilitate orderly conduct some notice in respect of which you would seek of business of the House, as mentioned in the List of necessary information from the Home Minister and then Business. take a decision. It is entirely up to you to decide upon SHRI P. UPENDRA (Vijayawada) : The facts are the form in which the matter should come up here. What already known. What more facts does the Government I WOUld hke to say at this point Is that the decision has want? ... (Interruptions) been taken by the Governor of the State under his authority and under the Constitutional provisions MR. SPEAKER: Does the Government want to say ... (lnterruptions) anything? SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER : Are we going Into the [Translation] merits? . SHRI KANTILAL BHURIA (Jhabua) : The Mill4ster SHRI L.K. ADVANI : I am not going into the merits. of Home Affairs should make a statement Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thought, when you made this ... (Interruptions) announcement, that notice of a formal motion has been given and on that basis you will decide the [English] admissibility... (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER : The Minister of Parliamentary SHRI BHUBANESWAR KALITA : Mr. Speaker, Sir, Affairs would like to respond. we would like to know whether the notice under 184 ... (Interruptions) has been admitted or not. 19 JULY 30, 1998 20

SHRI AJIT JOG I (Raigarh) : Sir, I gave notice for a MR. SPEAKER : Please understand. Unless we motion under Rule 184 and I requested that the Governor have facts, how can we decide about a Motion under of Goa should be recalled under Article 156 of the Rule 184? Constitution, Are you going to kindly admit that motion ... (Interruptions) or not? MR. SPEAKER: This is not good. This is not fair on MR. SPEAKER : I have already said that it will be the part of han. Members. discussed in the BAC. . .. (:nterruptions) SHRI AJIT JOG I : All the facts are known to the Home Minister. MR. SPEAKER : This is not good. This is not fair also. SHRI L.K. ADVANI : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have not even seen the motion that has been given notice of. I ... (Interruptions) only heard you announce that you had received a notice MR. SPEAKER : This will not go on record. from Shri Ajit Jogi and Shri Sharad Pawt'lr in respect of ... (Interruptions), which you will seek necessary information from the Home Ministry and then take a decision. We are willing MR. SPEAKER : Shri Bhuria, please hear me. to abide by whatever decision you are going to take Without getting the facts, how can we decide a Motion because whether a motion of that kind can be admitted under Rule 184? and can be discussed in the House is for you to decide. ... (Interruptions) I will give you all the necessary information in this MR. SPEAKER: Knowing all these things, it is not regard ... (Interruption) good to do like this. SHRI P. UPENDRA (Vijayawada) : All the information ... (Interruptions) is available. What more do you want to know? SHRI L.K ADVANI : At this point of time, I say that MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Members, please go back to whatever has happened in Goa is not because of a your seats. decision of the Central Government. We have been ... (lnterruptions) informed about what has happened. We will give all the MR. SPEAKER: What is this? necessary information ... (Interruptions) ... (Interruptions) SHRI RAVI SITARAM NAIK (Panaji) : Whatever has happened there was at the instance of the Home MR. SPEAKER : I am appealing to the hon. Minister. Members to kindly go back to their seats. This is nol good. Without having information, how can we decide [Translation] a Motion under Rule 184? SHRI AJIT JOG I (Raigarh) : We have given a ... (Interruptions) substantive Motion ... (Interruppons) MR. SPEAKER : Once again, I am appealing to the [English] hon. Members to go back to their seats. MR. SPEAKER : We will discuss it in the BAC. ... (lnterruptions) ... (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER : I am requesting the hon. Members to go back to their seats. Without obtaining information, MR. SPEAKER : Please understand the position. how can we decide a Motion under Rule 184? What is ... (Interruptions) this? [Translation] ... (Interruptions) SHRI KANTILAL BHURIA :Mr. Speaker, Sir, MR. SPEAKER : This is not good. Please democracy has been butchured in Goa ... (Interruptions) understand. There are other Members also who want to Such a Governor should be recalled... (Interruptions) raise important issues .

[English~ ... (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER : Han. Members, please take your MR. SPEAKER : This is not good. I am appealing seats. You cannot stall the proceedings of the House to you again, please go back to your seats. like this. ...(lnterruptions) ... (lnterruptions) MR. SPEAKER : What is this? SHRI FRANCISCO SARDINHA : Can y;)U give .•. (lnterruptions) assurance that Motion under Rule 184 will be accepted? .. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER : You have discussed this issue for one hour. You are not listening to the observations made 13.10 hr•• by the Chair. At this stage, Shri Kantilal Shuria 'and some other ... (Interruptions) hon. Members came and stood on the floor near the Tab/e. °Not Recorded 21 SHRAVANA 8, 1920 (Sakal 22

[Translation] 1604 hrs. SHRI PRABHUNATH SINGH (Maharajganj) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, these people are saying all this only to MATTERS UNDER RULE 377* find place in the newspaper... (Interruptions) (i) Need for construction of a bridge at Used [English] Ghat on Chamber River In Morena Dls~rict MR. SPEAKER : Once again, I am appealing to you (M.P.) to go back to your seats. This is my request to all of you. [Translation] This is not the proper way to put forth your view. SHRI ASHOK ARGAL (Murena) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, ... (Interruptions) the foundation stone for the construction of a bridge at MR. SPEAKER : Once again, I am requesting you Used Ghat on Chambal river in Morena district was laid to go back to your seats. by the Government of the former Prime Minister, Late ... (lnterruptions) Shri Rajiv Gandhi. However, no action has been taken with regard to the construction of the above mentioned MR. SPEAKER : What is this? This is not the proper bridge. way. With the construction of Used Ghat bridge, this ... (Interruptions) district will be connecteci with Ferozabed and Agra MR. SPEAKER : The House stands adjourned to districts of Uttar Pradesh and people will be able to meet again at 4 p.m. travel easily. Therefore, through you, I would like to urge upon 1317 hrs. the Central Government to kindly issue orders to the The Lok Sabha then adiourned till Sixteen oJf concerned department to start tl'le construction of a the Clock. bridge at Used Ghat on Chambal river in Morena District without further delay so that the people of Uttar Pradesh and Madnya Pradesh are able to travel to and from one district to another in less time and at lesser cost. 1603 hrs. (ii) Need to direct Chandlgarh Housing Board The Lok Sabha re-assembled at three to allot plots to co-operative Housing minutes past Sixteen of the Clock. Societies early.

(SHRI V. SATHIAMOORTHY in the Chait') SHRI SATYA PAL JAIN (Chandigarh) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, Chandigarh is a Union territory and is facing a ... (Interruptions) shortage of residential accommodation. Due to this At this stage, Shri Francisco Sardinha and some very reason, many people have formed Housing co- other hon. Members came and stood on the floor operative societies to construct cheaper housing units near the Table. collectively. ... (Interruptions) Chandigarh Administration has been alloting plots to MR. CHAIRMAN : Disturbing the proceedings oi such societies for constructing houses for the last several the House is not proper. years. Thereafter the administration decided to allot land .. ; (Interruptions) henceforth not for allocating plots but for the purpose of construction of flats. After that, several societies challenged MR. CHAIRMAN : Let us take Matters under Rule this decision by filing suit in Punjab and Haryana High 377. Court, but they did not get much success. After the ruling ... (Interruptions) of the court, Chandigarh administration and Chandigarh MR. CHAIRMAN: This matter was already raised in Housing Board wrote to the societies and asked them to the 'Zero Hour'. deposit some more money in addition to the amount already deposited with them earlier. At this, some people ... (lnterruptions) deposited the additional amount. Thus, many societies THE MINISTER OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI ANANTH have already deposited 25 per cent of the total cost so KUMAR) : Sir, I want to make a statement... (Interruptions; far. Despite that, Chandigarh administration and MR. CHAIRMAN : Please just allow the Minister to Chandigarh Housing Board has not started making make a statement. allotment of land to these people. Due to this, people are ... (Interruptions) becoming agitated and have started demanding that land be allotted to them without further delay for construction MR. CHAIRMAN: Today's matters listed under rule of houses. They do not want to delay the construction of 377 are to be treated as laid on the Table of the House. houses by even a single day in view. of the constantly ... (Interruptions) rising cost of construction. Therefore, I request the Central MR. CHAIRMAN: All the Members are requested to Government administration and Chandigarh Housing cooperate to proceed with the business of the House . ... (Interruptions) • Treated as laid on the Table of tne House. 23 Matters under Rule 377 JULY 30. 1998 Matters under Rule 377 24

[Shri Satya Pal Jain] National Agenda by the Central Government and the assurance given to the people by the responsible Board to issue orders for allotment of land to such housing persons, the state of affairs is very bad,when we go to societies for the construction of houses immediately. the villages, where we find our women in the countryside walking miles together to fetch water. I request through (III) Need to improve the functioning of Central ~em Coalfield a Ltd. and Bharat Coking Coal Ltd. you, Sir, that this Government should take this very seriously and do take the necessary measures to SHRI RAVINDRA KUMAR PANDEY (Giridih) : Sir. provide drinking water (potable) to all in the country by the losses of Central Coalfield Limited and Bharat 2000 A.D. Coking Coal Limited are mounting. As per my information, B.C.C.L. is incurring a loss of approximately (vi) Need to grant Statehood to Vldarbha one crore rupees daily. There are several reasons for immediately that - non availability of proper accomodation facility for SHRI VILAS MUTIEMWAR (Nagpur) : Sir, the Union the employees working in these companies, non- Government have agreed to grant Statehood to payment of the arrears before retirement and Uttaranchal, Chhatisgarh, D.elhi and very recently irregularities in appointments made on compassionate Pondicherry respecting sentiments and aspirations of grounds. The efficiency of employees has declined due the people but mainly out of political compulsions without to these very circumstances. Similarly posting at the accepted norms of economic viability, size of populated same place for a longer than the stipulated period in area, infrastructure facilities and potential viability etc. case of certain employees holding sensitive posts is However, in doing so, It is a matter of great concern, the giving rise to wrong practices. The Management has to most valid demand for restoration of Statehood has approach the court with regard to those displaced due been deliberately ignored by the ruling Party who has to which lakhs or rupees of the Government are wasted. committed in its manifesto to restoration of Statehood to All the suggestions made to improve the style of Vidarbha and have deliberately forgotten their functioning of th& management have proved to be commitment to the people. useless. Wasteful expenditure is increasing in C.I.L. This is very strange and deceptive attempt to Therefore, the Government is requested to constitute suppress the popular upsurge among people of Vidarbha a parliamentary and expert committee in order to bring over the issue of restoration of Statehood granted by improvement in the management of C.C.L. and B.C.C.L; S.R.C. In 1956 on the basis of rational or valid criteria. provide proper accommodation facility to the employees The experiment of merger with Maharashtra has failed of the company with immediate effect and make miserably as will be clear from the mounting backlog in arrangement for transfer of employees holding sensitive development in all sectors of developmental activities. posts for a longer period against the rules with DandeKer Committee has highlighted mounting immediate effect. economic backlog of Vidarbha and expressed concern about the neglect of Vidarbha in the development (Iv) Need to send a team to Jalaun In U.P. to process. The people of Vidarbha are convinced that aurvey crop affected by weeda their economic progress is possible only in separate SHRI BHANU PRATAP SINGH VERMA (Jalaun) : Vidarbha. There is a growing public upsurge on the My constituency, Jalaun is an agricultural area. Majority issue of restoration of Statehood to Vidarbha. All the of the population of this area Is dependent upon people's representatives from Parliament to down below agricultural products for a living. I would like to draw Panchayat Samlties have supported the demand In a your attention towards a malor agricultural problem democratic and peaceful manner so far. All the political affecting the Kuthond area. In the month of December, parties including BJP have supported the demand for a yellow thorny weed starts growing with the crop in the restoration of Statehood to Vidarbha. entire cultivable, area. This weed stunts the growth of In the face of all this, ignoring the popular demand the crop and eliminates the poSSIDillty of growing any would tantamount to perpetuating the gross injustice other crop. The farmers of this area are affected by this leading to serious consequences. The Government problem and are bearing losses. This weed is also should respect the aspirations of the Vidarbhaites. causing damage to the crops of farmers of Madhogarh and Rampara areas besides Kuthond. (vII) Need to take over Cement Factory at Sawai I would like to make a demand to the Central Uadhopur In Rajasthan to protect the Govemment to send a team from the Centre between Intereat of workera the months of February and April to survey the problem {Translation] caused by the weed· and resolve It so that the farmers of the area are relieved. SHRIMATI USHA MEENA (Swai Madhopur) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Cement factory located at my (v) Need to enaure availability of Drinking constituency, Swai Madhopur (Rajasthan) has been Water to All In the Country by 2000 A.D. lying closed for the last 10-12 years, due to which around 15,000 employees and labourers have been {English] rendered unemployed. The Government of Rajasthan DR. B.N. REDDY (Mlryalguda).: In spite of the has sold the factory to private owners who have started importance of drinking water supply mentioned in the retrenchment of the factory workers and instead of taking 25 Matters under Rule 377 SHRAVANA 8. 1920 (Sakal Matters under Rule 377 26

into consideration the facilities due to them, have instead Mohanlalganj, Lucknow (Uttar Pradesh) which ousted them from the factory accommodation and have comprises five assembly segments of Lucknow and two started torturing them by cutting off the power and water assembly segments of Unnao. There is no rail line in connections. These employees have not received their both the Hasanganj and Purva assembly constituencies. P.F. and gratuity amount. These people are leading their The facility of Roadways buc;es is also not satisfactory lives in very trying circumstances in. absence of any due to which the people face difficulties in travelling. It regular pay. Their children are virtually on the roads takes two hours to cover the distance which should be and nobody is there to listen to their woes. covered within half an hour. The poor people face many I request the Central Government to acquire the problems. Hence I request to lay a rail line and construct above mentioned factory and re-employ the unemployed a railway station there. workers so as to improve their financial position. (viii) Need to preserve the natural beauty of (x) Need to set up a Low Power Transmission Calcutta City Centre of Doordarshan in Kollam District in Kerala [English] SHRI SUDIP BANDYOPADHYAY (Calcutta North- [English] West) : Over 300 years ago, Jobe Charnak of Joan Co. SHRI N.K. PREMCHANDRAN (Quilon) : The T.V. landed at the village of Sutanati, which eventually gave programmes relayed from the Trivandrum Doordarshan birth to the great city of Calcutta. Sutanati does no Kendra have not got a clear access to the people longer exist except in history books and old documents, residing in Kollon district. So, I request that a low- but it is a fact that it existed on the bank of Hoogly river powered Transmission Centre may be set up anywhere within the geographical limits of the present Calcutta North West area, more precisely, between Beghbazar in Kollam constituency in order to safeguard the interest and Nimtala Burning ghat. When the city started to of the T.v. viewers in the Kollom district. grow during the British rule, this area became a Port of (xi) Need to provide more funds to the State Calcutta and later on it was developed and maintained Government of Tamil Nadu for early through Calcutta Port Trust. Not only did they do civil maintenance but also the law and order was handled Completion of Hoganekkal drinking water pretty will by the Calcutta Port Police. The inhabitants of scheme near localities like Jorabagan, Aihiritola Beniatole, SHRI K.P. MOHAN (Dharmapuri) : Though the Sovabazar, Kumartuli, Baghbazar etc. not only did use Hoganekkal Falls are in the neighbourhood of to come for a dip in the holy river Ganga but also came Dharmapuri, yet about 20 lakh people living In 14 for pleasure strolls or just to sit around and enjoy the Panchayat Union areas of Dharmapuri have to rely on serenity. It was such a safe place that even women did ground water for drinking water purposes. Ground water not fear to frequent the area. available at these places is found to be a health hazard This was the place where people used to come to as it contains heavy fluoride. which is very harmful for breathe, to reflect and to get united with nature. This the health. Therefore, to solve the drinking water problem was the atmosphere of place even some 25 years ago. of the people living in these Panchayat Union areas of But it is not the same now. Dharmapuri, the Hoganekkal Drinking Water Scheme at The Calcutta Port Trust has become totally negligent a cost of As. 636 crore was initiated as a Joint Project towards civil maintenance, the police vigil has vanished, involving both the Central and State Governments with the bathing ghats are in dangerous condition and have about 85 per cent of Japanese assistance. The said become death-traps and the whole area has become project was finally cleared by the Central Government safe heaven for anti-social elements and their nefarious activities. The steel-railways along the Strand Bank Road ir, March this year. The remaining 15 per cent of the have long been stolen and very recently erected lotal cost of the project was to be shared equally by the barricades by the circular Railway authority have been Central and State Governments, that is 7.5 per cent either damaged or removed. Mareover, Calcutta each by the Central and the State Governments. Now Municipal Corporation has started to dump garbages at after the Pokharan-II Nuclear Test, the committed fund the riverside. It has become such a horrible place even from Japan is not forthcoming as declared by that a beggar will fear to tread. Government. Now the people of the above places fear The Surface Transport Ministry is urged upon to whether their ambition to have good drinking water intervene immediately and take all necessary steps to through the said project will be fulfilled or not. Even restore the old beauty of Calcutta. after fifty years of our Independence, the people living in the above places are deprived of drinking water. As (ix) Need to provide Railway facilities at Hasanganj and Purva In U.P. the State Government's fund position is depleted, I urge upon the Central Government to release funds [Translation] immediately for the said project and also take up the SHRIMATI REENA CHOUDHARY (Mohanlalganj) matter with the Japanese Government for flow of Mr. Chairman, Sir, my Parliamentary constituency is committed funds from Japan. 27 Matters under Rule 377 JULY 30, 1998 Statement by Minister 2P

(xii) Need to ensure that Jute Corporation of 1600 hrs. India purchase raw jute from jute growers STATEMENT BY MINISTER Directly Particularly in North Bengal Accident of Indian Airlines Dornier SHRI AMAR ROY PRADHAN (Coochbehar) : Sir, Aircraft at Cochin raw jute is coming in the markets of North Bengal, THE MINISTER OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI ANANTH particularly in the districts Coochbehar, Jalpalguri, KUMAR) : With a deep sense of shock and angUish, Darjeeling and W. Dinajpur. There is no purchaser. The have to inform this august House that an Indian Airlinef Jute Corporation of India is not taking adequate Dornier 00-228 aircraft IIT-EJW crashed at Cochin soor measures to purchase raw jute. Jute is a cash crop. after take off at 1104 hours today while operating Ilig" About three crore people are directly involved in IC-503 from Cochin to Thiruvanthapuram. It has bee producing raw jute. About 60 lakh workers are working reported that soon after take off the aircraft nose dive in jute industry throughout the country. We earn foreign and hit a building near the Naval hangar and caugr money at the rate of Rs. 1,000 crore every year. But the fire. The aircraft was under the command of Capt. Shill poor raw jute growers are being forced to sell their raw Raj Singh and Capt. Manish Sharma as Co-Pilot ann jute at the rate of Rs. 250/- to Rs. 300/- per quintal for Shri Sajid, Flight Purser. In addition, the following thf! W.R.4 or 5 quality, which is not even the half of the rate passengers were on board: of support price as announced by the Central 1. Shrimati Vijay Kalyani Kanaujia Government. 2. Shri Sam ala Raju· I like to draw the attention of the han. Commerce 3. Shri Sasikanth Ramani Minister to come forward to save these poor raw jute growers from the clutches of middlemen and send The crash-fire tenders extinguished the fire and tl necessary direction and money so that officers may occupants were evacuated and taken to hospital in critical condition. I am sorry to inform the House that, start purchasing raw jute from the growers only. the six persons have lost there lives. It has further be •. ... (Interruptions) reported that in addition to the above six persons anoth three persons were killed on the ground. Cochin is Naval airport where the Airports Authority of Ind ... (Interruptions) maintains a Civil Enclave. _ -1 MR. CHAIRMAN : The Chair requests all the The DGCA has appointed Director (Air Safeh ~ Members to resume their seats. All of you may cooperate. Mumbai, as Inspector of accidents under Rule 71 of t Please go and resume your seats. Aircraft Rules, 1937 to investigate the accident. In view of the seriousness of the occurrence 1606 hrs. propose to appoint a Committee of Inquiry under Rl (At this stage, Shri Sansuma Khunggur 74 of the Aircraft Rules, 1937 to hold an inquiry into It Bwiswmuthiary came and stood on the unfortunate accident. I am sure that this august Hou floor near the Table.) will join me in conveying our heartfeh condolences a sympathies to the members of the bereaved famllie.1/Ii MR. CHAIRMAN : A very important statement is to be made by the Minister. Please resume your seats. The DG and I are proceeding to Cochin for an .J the spot inspection . ... (Interruptions) ... (Interruptions) ." MR. CHAIRMAN : You have already shown your MR. CHAIRMAN : The House stands adjourned j feelings twice. 11 a.m. on July 31, 1998. . ,s(, 1607 hrs. 16.09 hrs. ',1)f ·v. (At this stage, Shri Sansuma Khunggur The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Eleven of • r ~wiswmuthiary went back to his seat) Clock on Friday, July 31, 19981Shravana 9, 19,1: MR CHAIRMAN : Now statement by Minister. (Saka))M "I C 1998 By l.oK SASHA SECRETARIAT Published under Rules 379 and 382 of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in Lok Sabha (Eighth Edition) and printed by DIIl'A POINT COMPUTING TECHNOLOGY (INDIA) PVT. LTD., Janakpuri, New Delhi-58. .