Enhancing Latinx Beauty with Refinery29 Senior Editor Thatiana Diaz
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Enhancing Latinx Beauty with Refinery29 Senior Editor Thatiana Diaz Dr. Torkian 00:04 Welcome to Beauty In Progress. This is Dr. Torkian and together Let's explore what it means to have an eye for beauty. Hi, it's Dr. Torkian in here don't miss our upcoming event on March 4th, 3:30 to 4:30 virtually on zoom with my best friend, my work partner, my life partner and my esteemed colleague, Dr. Adrienne Youdim. She and I will be sharing tips that we use to maintain health and beauty from the inside and out. Thanks for joining us today in progress. This is Dr. Torkian. And I'm really happy to have with me Thatiana Diaz today, who leads the editorial strategy and ideation and execution for Refinery29, Latin first Latinx cross platform cross channel called Somos. And I'm going to at 28 Tatiana, I gotta say you are quite an accomplished individual. But I want to hear it all from you. Because I don't think I can do it all justice. But I do want to hear about Refinery29. Thatiana Diaz 01:06 Yeah, of course. So we are a woman's media company. We are under vice Media Group. And we've been around for years now. And we can be found across different platforms from social to an online kind of digital magazine, you could say it is that the best way I describe it to my grandma, and she was like what is refinery? It's like an online digital magazine that lives on a website. But also we live on social. And we have video extensions. So everywhere that you can tune in to anything absolutely digital, we are there. And we cover everything from news to politics, to fashion, beauty. We're like this once stop for everything for women. And yeah, it's it's really exciting to see its growth year by year. And for women to feel like they can come to our platform to find everything that they need on any topic. You've been a contributor to some us. Yeah, so I'm a beauty contributor to refinery 29 as a whole, so refinery 29 has its sub verticals, which is unbothered, which was created for a black woman, by black woman. And then we have somos, which is for Latina x woman with all led by electronics staff. So I'm the senior editor of somos. But also you can say I wear many hats. Because I also part of the beauty team as a contributor. For mentally I was a part of their team as a senior beauty writer. But I wanted to be involved with beauty, I love the way that we're able to cover beauty across different lens and look at it differently. So for me, I've always had that passion for beauty. So I wanted to stay involved somehow while still helping them launch somos. So I was able to hold on to both titles and still be involved on both ends and kind of have both a part of my life. And that's really exciting. Great, Dr. Torkian 03:01 yeah, that is actually very exciting is when you can when you can blend in two passions together. Yes. Thatiana Diaz 03:06 And you find that identity and culture also has such a big thing to do with beauty as well. So most was actually something that was a passion of mine that started when I was in the beauty team. And I was covering so many of these lateen x beauty brand founders or people who felt that they weren't being seen in the beauty industry. And from there, I really saw, you know, there's this lack of representation, 1 Transcribed by https://otter.ai or lack of TX people in media. And that's how somos came about. So it's like you find ways that they intersect. And now I'm finding that sometimes, I'm writing stories that are both almost in beauty. So it all works out. So forgive me for getting this, but can you explain what's next to me? Of course, so it is it is a gender inclusive term of Latino or Latina, um, you find that Latino male, and then Latinas for female. And this is a way to include everyone by adding the x at the end of lateen x. So yeah, it's it's an all inclusive term that's fairly new. And a lot of people are using it. And we're finding that it's really making everyone feel like they're a part of the community. And then when it comes to plural, or because when you do poro is usually masculine, so it's Latino. And there's just like, there's no reason when we have gender non conforming folks and people who want to feel included, they can with within this community Dr. Torkian 04:25 understood. So I think what really stands out to me, is, I think as a beauty editor, I feel like you You brought together two things that you're passionate about, but at the same time I feel like there's a little bit of a dichotomy here. And this is the one thing that that really first stood out with me when I was reading about you Tatiana is that you write about beauty. you celebrate beauty, right? You have also been in the studio set usap And in the Dominican Republic pageant, which is a free adjunct to the Miss Universe. And so you're, you're kind of you get that you get the whole all aspects of beauty. Yeah, but at the same time you are in a role in a leadership role as a feminist as a gender is as how does this go now? But it's I'm just gonna say feminist for now until we figure that particular word out. How do you justify both of these aspects of yourself together one which sort of objectifies women. And I'm going to kind of go on a limb and say that about the about the pageants, I have been both a fan and also not a fan of pageants, in many different ways. But I think as as someone who works with women all the time, I think maybe I'm a male feminist. I mean, I stand for women. I work with women all the time. Almost all of my patients are women. I do have a lot of male patients. I do have a lot of non conforming patients, a patient's and lesbian patients, and it's all good. But how do you how do you work this in your mind together? How is it okay? Thatiana Diaz 06:14 I think that's that's a, that's a really great question. And something that honestly I've, I've put so much thought into, because I've been asked this before. And, you know, there's, there's no not you cannot not acknowledge what the faults are of pageantry. And I think we've come really far. But when I was competing, I added that there was that non inclusive kind of beauty ideal. I would never have competed in my curly hair that I'm now embrace. And I was trying to fit this mold that was popular within beauty pageants. But I think that experience really fueled me to show women to feel beautiful, no matter who they are, I was trying to fit into these ideals that once were in pageants, now we're seeing, I need to acknowledge the fact that they are, you know, now being more inclusive, they're looking forward to the future and trying to improve, there's still work to be done. But at the time when I was competing, that really wasn't existing, and trying to fit into this mold and straightening my hair, wearing lots of makeup, which really wasn't me, I actually got into pageants because my parents wanted me to be more feminine. They wanted me to fit these Latina beauty ideals of being this this woman and showing my feminine side and to make them happy, because they really pushed me to do it, I did it. There's this obsession with the pageant culture, and that takes communities and it was a way for me to bond with them and kind of give them what they want, quote unquote, so but I was very what people called tomboy. And the fact that I was wearing hoodies, I loved basketball, I did like wearing makeup. And you 2 Transcribed by https://otter.ai know, I found myself not being myself at the end of the day, and putting on those of makeup, wearing false eyelashes, straightening my hair. wearing these tight dresses and heels, I can't stand heels, I own so many pairs of sneakers. And when you look at my closet, you'll see right away that i'm i'm not what you'd expect out of a pageant beauty queen. But in that that really inspired me to show women, you know that you can find beauty within yourself, whether that's curly hair, whether that's with no makeup, whether that's makeup on, I think there's so much power and beauty that people don't see, we talk so often about the no makeup, the makeup, the natural hair movement, and it's like I think the power is really in being able to do whatever the hell it is that you want.