CERTIFICATION

The Minutes of Proceedings which appear in the following book have been established by the Clerk of Parliament and have been amended and confirmed by Parliament in accordance with the provisions of Article 18 of the Standing Orders of Parliament.

. IA, 1 r* ' ”4 J Hon, Esmon SAIMON Leon TETE1R Speaker of Parliament Acting Clerkv&f Parliament TENTH LEGISLATURE OF PARLIAMENT

THIRD EXRTAORDINARY SESSION OF 2013

26 November 2013

Speaker of Parliament

His Excellency, Hon. Philip BOEDORO

Parliament Office-Holders

First Deputy Speaker - Hon. Samson SAMSEN

Second Deputy Speaker - Hon. Arnold PRASAD

Third Deputy Speaker - Hon John Vacher AMOS

Leader of the Government in the Parliament - Hon. Moana CARCASSES

Deputy Leader of the Government in the Parliament - Hon. Edward Nipake NATAPEI Leader of the Opposition - Hon. Ham LINI Deputy Leader of the Opposition - Hon. Sato KILMAN Leader of Government Business - Hon. Joe NATUMAN

Government Whip - Hon. Alfred MAOH

Opposition Whip - Hon. Salwai Chariot TABIMASMAS GOVERNMENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF (These Ministers constitute the Cabinet and were in office on 26 November 2013)

Prime Minister and Minister of Public Service Hon. Moana Kalosil CARCASSES

Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Hon. Edward Nipake NATAPEI Affairs and External Trade

Minister of Planning and Climate Change Hon. Thomas LAKEN Adaptation

Minister of Internal Affairs Hon. Patrick CROWBY Manarewo

Minister of Finance and Economic Management Hon. Maki SIMELUM

Minister of Agriculture, Forestry, Fisheries and Hon. David TOSUL Biosecurity

Minister of Health Hon. Serge Rialuth VOHOR

Minister of Education Hon. Bob LOUGHMAN

Minister of Lands, Geology and Mines and Hon. Ralph REGENVANU Water Resources

Minister of Justice and Community Services Hon. James JONAS

Minister of Youth Development, Training and Hon. Tony WRIGHT Sports

Minister of Tourism, Trade Industry Hon. Toara Daniel KALO

Minister of Infrastructure and Public Utilities Hon. Esmon SAIMON and Telecommunication

11 TENTH LEGISLATURE OF PARLIAMENT

THIRD EXTRAORDINARY SESSION OF 2013

26 November 2013

AMOS, Hon. John Vacher Member for Tongoa IG

BOEDORO, Hon. Philip Member for Maewo VP

BOHN, Hon. Robert Member for Epi VPDP

BULE, Hon. James Member for Ambae NUP

CARCASSES, Hon. Moana Member for GC

CARLOT. Hon. Alfred R. Member for NAT

CROWBY, Manarewo, Hon. Partrick Member for Port Vila UMP

EMELEE, Hon. Christopher Claude Member for Banks/Torres NNP

HAMARLIU, Hon. Isaac Member for Epi PPP

HILTON, Hon. Dunstan Member for Banks/ Torres PPP

IAUKO, Hon. Harry Pascal S. Member for Tanna IG

JAMES, Hon. Jonas Member for Paama NAT

JIMMY, Tapangararua, Hon. Willie Member for Port Vila VLDP

KALO, Hon. Toara Daniel Member for Shepherds GC

KALSAKAU, Hon. Steven Member for Efate RMC

KEN, Hon. Don Member for Malekula PSP

KTLMAN, Hon. Sato Member for Malekula PPP

LA KEN, Hon. Thomas Member for Tanna IND

LENGKON, Hon. Tao Bruno Member for Ambrym NUP

LENI, Vanuaroroa, Hon. Ham Member for Pentecost NUP

LOUGHMAN, Hon. Bob Member for Tanna VP

LUDVAUNE, Hon. Jerome Member for Malekula UMP

LUM, Hon. John Member for Santo NAG

MAOH, Hon. Alfred Member for Santo GJP HA VO. Hon. Molisale Member for Malo/Aore NAG

MOLI, Hon. Kalvau Member for IND

MERA, Hon. Richard Member for Ambae VP

NALET, Hon. Daniel Member for Malekula GJP

NARI, Hon. Tony Member for Pentecost IG

NATAPEI, Hon. Edward Nipake Member for Port Vila VP

NATUMAN, Hon. Joe Member For Tanna VP

NA WAI, Hon. Tesei John Member for Southern Islands VP

NEVU, Hon. Hosea Member for Santo IG

PRASAD, Hon. Arnold Member for Santo GC

PIPITE, Hon. Marcellino Member for Santo VRP

REGEV ANU, Hon. Ralph Member for Port Vila GJP

ROUARD, Hon. Silas Ratan Member for Tanna UMP

RUAN, Hon. Richard Namel Member for Tanna IND

SALWAI, Hon. Chariot Member for Pentecost RMC

SALMON, Hon. Esmon Member for Malekula MPP

SAMSON, Hon. Samsen Member for Santo NAG

SIMEON, Hon. Kaltaliu Member for Malekula VP

SIMELUM, Hon. Maki Stanley Member for Ambrym VP

STEVENS, Hon. Morking Iatika Member for Tanna NUP

TAIWIA, Hon. Nato Member for Efate MPP

TELUKLUK, Hon. Paul Member for Malekula RMC

TOSUL, Hon. David Member for Pentecost PPP

VOHOR, Hon. Serge Rialuth Member for Santo UMP

VUTA, Hon. Peter Member for Ambae IND

WELLS, Hon. George Andre Member for Luganville PPP

WILLIAM, Hon. Gillion Member for Efaie GJP

WRIGHT, Hon. Antoine Tony Member for Port Vila UMP

IV PARTY ABBRE VIA TIONS

GC Green Confederation PAP People's Action Party IND Independent PPP People's Progessive Party MPP Melanesian Progressive Party UMP Union of Moderate Parties NCA National Community Association VP Vanua'aku Pati NMA Namangi Ante VRP Vanuatu Republican Party NUP National United Party GAC Green Alliance Confederation NAG LP Leba Pati VPRFP Vanuatu Progressiv Ripablican VFFP Vanuatu Family First Party Former Party IG Iauko Group VNP Vanuatu National Party GJP Graon mo Jastis Party VLDP Vanuatu Liberal Democratic Party VPDP Vanuatu Progressive RMC Re-unification of Moderate Development Party Movement of Change PSP People Service Party NAT Natatok

v PARLIAMENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF VANUATU

TENTH LEGISLATURE OF PARLIAMENT

THIRD EXTRA ORDINARY SESSION OF 2013

TUESDAY 26 NOVEMBER 2013

SPEAKER : The Hon. Philip BOEDORO, Member for Maewo

PRESENT : The attendance sheet was destroyed by cyclone Pam

ABSENT :

LATE :

1. The sitting commenced at 9.30a.m

2. The Hon. Havo MOLISALE, Member for Malo/Aore, said the prayer.

3. The Hon. Speaker BOEDORO stated in accordance with Article 21(4) of the Constitution that two thirds of the Members should be present at the first sitting of any Session and as there were 35 Members present, it rendered the sitting to be legally constituted to proceed with the agenda it has been summoned to be dealt with.

4. Seconded by the Hon. Alfred MAOH, Government Whip and Member for Santo, the Hon. Joe NATUMAN, Leader of Government Business and Member for Tanna, moved to suspend Standing Order 16(2) to allow Parliament to meet from 6.30p.m to 9.00p.m.

5. The motion to suspend Standing Order 16(2) was carried by 34 votes in favor.

BILL FOR THE WORKERS COMPENSATION (AMENDMENT) ACT NO, OF 2013

FIRST READING

6. The Hon. Patrick CROWBY, Minister of Internal Affairs and Member for Port Vila, introduced the Bill, stated the reasons for the amendment and then moved that the Bill be read a first time. 7. The Hon. Moana CARCASSES, Prime Minister and Member for Port Vila, firstly thanked the Minister for the presentation of the Bill and then said that the duty of the Government was to protect workers. He added that after a long time, the Government will now ensure that workmen’s rights are protected and the compensations will be decided by the Tripartite Board. Nevertheless, he congratulated the Minister concern for a great work done.

8. The Hon. Peter VUTA, Member for Ambae, sought clarification on the overall Bill on which he was of the opinion that it seemed to focus on Companies. For this reason, he wanted to know if the Bill covered small stakeholders who will not be able to afford the amounts. He added that he understood there were pending issues on workers compensation and asked if the Government would backdate the outstanding issues after the Bill comes into effect.

9. The Hon. Alfred CARLOT, Member for Efate, stated that many workers have never been compensated and many have not received their retirement packages, he then urged the Government to seriously consider this issue.

10. The Hon. Minister CROWBY responded that the Bill covered all Companies who must have their insurances covered to avoid trouble in the end. He said a good example of that would be Tusker Limited who has all its employee’s insurances covered. Finally, he agreed that the Government needed to seriously consider the outstanding issues and ensure people receive their compensations in case of accidents at work.

11. The Hon. Dunstan HILTON, Member for Banks/Torres, said it was about time the Government considered all pending issues and while speaking in support of the Bill, he thanked the Minister for the presentation of the Bill.

12. The Hon. Jerome LUDVAUNE, Member for Malekula, stated that the Bill did not provide for the percentage of loss of life. He then referred to the explanatory note and asked to make corrections to the term 'disabled" by adding 'partly disabled", a suggestion he thought must be done before the Bill is passed.

13. The Hon. Minister CROWBY made it clear that the compensation for death amount is Vt8, 640,000 and that the percentage of disability will be calculated according to the total amount.

14. The Hon. PM CARCASSES further explained that the problem of having numerous errors with the French and English version of the Bill was because there was only one translator; however, the State Law Office will recruit three more translators to facilitate translation.

15. The motion that the Bill be read a first time was approved unanimously.

COMMITTEE STAGE

Section 1, “Amendment”

16. Amendment 1, “Clause 1 of the Schedule”, was approved unanimously.

2 17. Amendment 2, ‘ Clause 3 of the Schedule”, was approved unanimously.

18. Amendment 3, “Clause 4 of the Schedule ’, was approved unanimously.

19. Section 1 was approved unanimously.

20. Section 2, “Commencement”, was approved unanimously.

SECOND READING

21. The Hon. Patrick CROWBY, Minister of Internal Affairs, thanked both sides of the House for its support and then moved that the Bill be read the second time and do pass.

22. The motion that the Bill be read the second time and do pass was approved unanimously.

BILL FOR THE STATE FLAG AND ARMORIAL BEARINGS (AMENDMENT) ACT NO. OF 2013

FIRST READING

23. The Hon. Patrick CROWBY, Minister of Internal Affairs, introduced the Bill, stated the reasons for the amendments and then moved that the Bill be read a first time.

24. The Hon. Ham LINI, Leader of Opposition and Member for Pentecost, stressed the importance of preserving the national identity, however, he noted there was no penalty applied to breaching the Copy Right Act.

25. The Hon. Minister CROWBY explained that many Bills were derived from the joint­ regulation; therefore, the Government is now considering the best ways to make revenue. He assured the House that after this Bill is passed and comes into effect, people and businesses will be paying fees for non-compliance.

26. The Hon. Alfred MAOH, Government Whip and Member for Santo, raised concerns on the use of Provincial flags and asked if the Bill covered for the latter as well as Municipal flags.

27. The Hon. Minister CROWBY responded that the Bill cover for the State flag only, however, the Government will consider including the Provincial and Municipal flags in the near future.

28. The motion that the Bill be read a first time was approved unanimously.

COMMITTEE STAGE

Section 1, “Amendment”

Amendment 1, “After section 1”

3 29. The Hon. Chariot SALWA1, Member for Pentecost, proposed a correction in the French version of the Bill by replacing 'midifier' with 'modifier1.

30. The Hon. Minister CROWBY asked the Member to repeat the proposal.

31 The Hon. SAI,WAI asked to replace the term 'midifier1 with 'modifier1 and add del que' in front of it. He also asked to replace 'un lof wherever occurring with 'une loi'.

32. The Clerk, Louis KALNPEL, confirmed the corrections.

33. The Hon. Minister CROWBY explained that these were just typing errors but will take . note and make corrections to it.

34. The Hon. Moana CARCASSES, Prime Minister, confirmed the response of the Hon. Minister CROWBY.

35. The Hon. Minister CROWBY asked the House to help make corrections by deleting ‘midifier’ and replace it with 'modifier'’ and add 'tel que' in front of 'modifier1 wherever occurring. He also asked to remove the ‘e’ at the end of 'prevue'.

36. Amendment 1 with correction taken was approved unanimously.

' 37. Amendment 2, “Subsection 2(2)”. was approved unanimously.

38. Section 1 was approved unanimously.

39. Section 2, “Commencement”, was approved unanimously.

SECOND READING

40. The Hon. Patrick CROWBY, Minister of Internal Affairs, thanked the House for support and then moved that the Bill be read the second time and do pass.

41. The motion that the Bill be read the second time and do pass was approved unanimously.

42. The sitting was suspended at 10.40a.m and resumed at 11.1 Oa.m

BILL FOR THE AGREEMENT ON PORT STATE MEASURES TO PREVENT, DETER AND ELIMINATE ILLEGAL, UNREPORTED AND UNREGULATED FISHING (RATIFICATION) ACT NO. OF 2013

FIRST READING

43. The Hon. David TOSUL, Minister of Agriculture, Livestock, Forestry, Fisheries and Biosecurity and Member for Pentecost, introduced the bill, explained the reasons and then moved that the Bill be read a first time.

4 The Hon. Ham LINI, Leader for the Opposition and Member for Pentecost announced that the Opposition would support the bill and asked for the advantages which Vanuatu would benefit from if it ratified this agreement.

The Hon. TOSUL responded that Vanuatu must ratify some important Agreement on Fisheries in order to be part of the international fisheries relations. He thanked European Union for warning Vanuatu with a yellow card in order to avoid being on the grey list.

The Hon. Moana CARCASSES, Prime Minister declared that Vanuatu had a large marine area and the Government needed to ensure that any fisheries activities undertaken within the area should be in line with the local Acts. He added that the Country must verify and record all fishing vessels flying the and engaging in fishing activities because according to local Act, they should pay for a license or a permit to the State. He recalled that last year, the revenue collected in that field was VT 1.5 million and it would be a waste to let the vessels exploit our marine resources without paying a cent to the Government. He then thanked the European Union for the yellow card warning.

The Hon. Dunstan HILTON, Member for Banks and Torres Islands, declared his support for the bill by stating the importance of ratifying the Treaty mentioned. He asked if the Government was intended to restore Vanuatu Fisheries Control Service in order to control its waters and marine resources mostly sailed by foreign fishing vessels.

The Hon. Alfred MAHO, Member for Santo, stressed the need to establish a plan B to assist the ship RV TUKORO which was the only one controlling Vanuatu maritime areas. He asked the Government to reconsider the limits of the maritime zones because there was illegal fishing undertaken within Torba Province and in the Northwest of Santo.

The Hon. TOSUL responded that the ship RV TUKORO was under the command of the Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries that worked in collaboration with Vanuatu Mobile Force and responsible to monitor and catch vessels entering illegally the maritime area of Vanuatu. He explained that the yellow card sent by the European Union was a warning to the Republic of Vanuatu on illegal fishing activities in its waters. However, with the ratification of the Treaty, Vanuatu would be assisted in strengthening its control system. He added that Article 5 of the Treaty provided for international relations Treaty countries to strengthen the system of control and exchange of information on illegal fishing activities. Referring to the area of Mathew and Hunter, he said it was still an unresolved case of determining the owner of the area that was claimed by Vanuatu and New Caledonia. Therefore, any vessels passing through the area could be taken in by one of those two countries.

The sitting was suspended at 11: 30a.m. and resumed at 2:30p.m.

5 BILL FOR THE AGREEMENT ON PORT STATE MEASURES TO PREVENT. DETER AND ELIMINATE ILLEGAL, UNREPORTED AND UNREGULATED FISHING (RATIFICATION) ACT NO. OF 2013

FIRST READING (Continue)

51. The Hon. Moana CARCASSES, Prime Minister, said that the MV Tukoro was undergoing a full refurbishment in Australia which was costing the Government an estimated amount of Vt700 million. He assured the House and thanked the French, Australian and New Zealand Government for funding the surveillance around Vanuatu waters.

52. The Hon. Maki SIMELUM, Minister of Finance and Economic Management, said it was about time all agreements concerning fishing were ratified as the number of Tuna waters was increasing rapidly. He added that the ratification was also to ensure that the Yellow Flag is removed. He went on that the new monitoring which cost the Government Vtl5 million was installed to especially monitor vessels flying the Vanuatu flag.

53. The Hon. Dunstan HILTON, Member for Banks/Torres, said that no matter the monitoring system, however, the matter of the Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) still stands. On that note, he wanted to know if the system covered the 6 miles zone between Vanuatu and the Solomon Islands.

54. The Hon. David TOSUL, Minister of Agriculture and Fisheries and Member for Pentecost, responded that the monitoring system monitored all vessels whether on transit or fishing. However, he urged the public to report to the monitoring system at the Vanuatu Maritime Services (VMS) if they witness illegal fishing.

55. The Hon. James BULE, Member for Ambae, stated that it was important to consider compliance and that the Government needed to inform the public on the number of fishing vessels currently wandering Vanuatu waters. He said that while the VMS are monitoring the waters, individuals should also be responsible of protecting marine resources. He then questioned the fish stock.

56. The Hon. Minister TOSUL said that he was unable to give the exact number of fish; however, he declared that the overall fish stock in the Pacific was high. He explained that Tuna is the hardest to control its numbers because they migrate.

57. The motion that the Bill be read a first time was approved unanimously.

COMMITTEE STAGE

58. Section 1, “Ratification”, was approved unanimously.

59. Section 2, “Commencement”, was approved unanimously.

6 SECOND READING

The Hon. David TOSUL, Minister of Agriculture and Fisheries, thanked both sides of the House for their support and then moved that the Bill be read the second time and do pass.

The motion that the Bill be read the second time and do pass was approved unanimously.

BILL FOR THE 1993 AGREEMENT TO PROMOTE COMPLIANCE WITH INTERNATIONAL CONSERVATION AND MANAGEMENT MEASURES BY FISHING VESSELS ON THE HIGH SEAS (RATIFICATION) ACT NO. OF 2013

FIRST READING

The Hon. David TOSUL, Minister of Agriculture and Fisheries, introduced the Bill, stated its purpose and then moved that the Bill be read a first time.

The Hon. Ham LINI, Leader of Opposition and Member for Pentecost, noted and said that this ratification addressed almost the same issues as the previous Bill. Nevertheless, he wanted to know if vessels were flying the Vanuatu flag because there were locals working in them. He also questioned the stage in which Vanuatu finds itself in this Agreement.

The Hon. SALWAI questioned the Country’s interest on the Agreement and how much was paid to the Government for flying the Vanuatu flag. He also wanted to know how much was collected from licenses and if they were issued for specific areas for specific periods.

The Hon. Minister TOSUL responded that there were observers present in fishing vessels flying the Vanuatu flag, however, the period in which the observer can observe needs to be reconsidered. He stated that not all countries included in the Agreement have ratified the Bill but Vanuatu had to do that now to have the ‘yellow flag’ removed. He assured the House that he would make a statement on the variety of fish being fished in Vanuatu waters. He concluded that the licenses issued covered the 200 miles Exclusive Economic zone including high seas and the period is for one year.

The Hon. James BULE, Member for Ambae, stressed the importance of data collection. He said it is always better to collect information or data from other countries of their catches. He then wanted to find out if Vanuatu had access to the European Union markets.

The Hon. Minister TOSUL referred the House to Article 4 of the Agreement on Records of Fishing Vessels, For market access, he supposed the Minister responsible for Trade will make some clarifications on it. He concluded that the Blacksands tuna processing plant was still in dispute; meanwhile, all catches are offloaded in Fiji.

7 ■ 68. The Hon. Alfred CARLOT. Member for Efate, referred to the South Pacific Fishing Company (SPEC) which was the most preferred place for offload and asked if the Government intended to consider its current state.

69. The Hon. Minister TOSUL responded that SPFC was sold to an investor by the , Fishermen’s Association; however, the Government will do its best to reconsider the issue and negotiate to re-purchase. He agreed that SPFC was the most preferred place for transit and offload, but, the Blacksands plant will be the foremost solution in which the Government was addressing with land owners. He concluded that while environmental issues were on alert; Fiji is collecting all the money for the catches making Vanuatu deprived from collecting its revenue.

70. The Hon. Bob LOUGHMAN, Minister of Education and Member for Tanna, supplemented that Vanuatu was part of the International Community which gives duty to the Government for ensuring that it met all the requirements of the body that it is part of. He added that the Government needed to train more environmental experts to assist with meeting all international obligations.

71. The Hon. Edward NATAPEI, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Foreign Affairs and External Trade, stressed his contentment for the questions raised as it will help the House and the public equally to understand the purpose of the Bill. He said that the Yellow Hag needed to be removed, although, some countries gained the Red Flag, it will give Vanuatu a little more chance to benefit from the agreement.

72. The Hon. Maki SIMELUM, Minister of Finance and Economic Management, said he hoped that all issues are sorted so Vanuatu can benefit from its revenue. He continued that the Government needed to complete the outstanding land rent where the Blacksands plant is located and ensure it operates as it should. He then clarified that the agreement was adopted 20 years ago; therefore, it was about time for Vanuatu to ratify.

73. The motion that the Bill be read a first time was approved unanimously.

COMMITTEE STAGE

74. Section 1, “Ratification”, was approved unanimously.

Section 2, “Commencement”

75. The Hon. Joe NATUMAN, Leader of Government Business and Member for Tanna, suggested to specify that the ratification came into force in Vanuatu on the specific date on which it has been passed in Parliament.

76. Section 2 was approved unanimously.

SECOND READING

77. The Hon. David TOSUL, Minister of Agriculture and Fisheries, thanked both sides of the House for their support and then moved that the Bill be read the second time and do pass.

8 78. The motion that the Bill be read the second time and do pass was approved unanimously.

79. The sitting was suspended at 3.40pm and resumed at 4.20p.m

80. The Speaker BOEDORO announced that the session will resume at 6.30p.m, however, the quorum was not reached.

81. The sitting was adjourned at 4.30p.m

9 PARLIAMENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF VANUATU

TENTH LEGISLATURE OF PARLIAMENT

THIRD EXTRAORDINARY SESSION OF 2013

TUESDAY 26 NOVEMBER 2013

SPEAKER : The Hon. Philip BOEDORO, Member for Maewo.

PRESENT : The attendance sheet was destroyed by cyclone Pam

ABSENT :

LATE :

1. The sitting commenced at 6:35p.m

2. The Hon. Jerome LUDVAUNE, Member for Malekula, said the prayer.

3. The Speaker read the agenda.

BILL FOR THE AGREEMENT FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROVISIONS OF THE UNITED NATIONS CONVENTION ON THE LAW OF THE SEA OF 10 DECEMBER 1982 RELATING TO TH CONSERVATION AND MANAGEMENT OF STRANDING FISH STOCKES AND HIGHLY MIGRATORY FISH STOCKS (RATIFICATION) ACT NO. OF 2013

FIRST READING

4. THE Hon. David TOSUL, Minister of Agriculture, Livestock, Forestry, Fisheries and Biosecurity introduced the bill, explained its purpose and then moved that the Bill be read a first time.

5. The Hon. Ham LINI, Leader of Opposition and Member for Pentecost said that Vanuatu was compelled to ratify the agreement due to lack of means for conservation and management of fish stocks. However, he wanted to know the advantages that bill would offer if approved.

6. The Hon. TOSUL responded that Vanuatu was already a member of the agreement and the ratification of the Bill would enable its removal from the yellow list. He added that the agreement would also enable the country to increase the license fees of fishing vessels passing through the country’s ocean. He continued that Vanuatu would benefit

10 from an amount of VT 1, 000, 000 if the Bill would be approved, and it has to corporate and respect the rules of such international conventions or else it could not advance.

The Hon. Joe NATUMAN, Leader of Government Business and Member for Tanna said that the convention was protecting fish conservation and was managing fish stocks. He pointed out that the yellow card was a warning from the European Union about illegal fishing in our maritime areas. He insisted that since fish was one of the main means of survival for the people of Vanuatu, the country must ratify the agreement for the sake of the national economy and demographic growth.

The Hon. Steven KALSAKAU, Member for Efate recalled that such agreement already existed and must be ratified by the Parliament. He stated that the Vanuatu maritime zone was larger than its land area. For him, it was important to manage the fish stocks, which was why monitoring system had to be enforced in order to control illegal fishing within Vanuatu waters. He supported his point of view by stating an incident happening in New Caledonia where a fishing vessel was caught with 40 tons of sharks caught. He announced that according to section 27 and 28, scientific researchers of ORSTOOM have proved after a study that the sharks were caught within the Vanuatu maritime zone. He referred to section 18 (2), and said that if the Government introduced fishing licenses, it also had to control it.

The Hon. Alfred MAOH, Opposition whip and Member for Santo, supported the ratification and suggested that the Government of Vanuatu had to find qualified law students, especially laws concerning maritime issues.

The Hon. TOSUL thanked Members for their comments. He informed the House that the Government of Vanuatu had introduced a new system dealing with illegal fishing and controlling national maritime zones. Regarding suggestions made by Hon. MAHO, he asked the Minister of Education to respond.

The Hon. Morking Steven IATIKA, Member for Tanna thanked the Minister for the important ratification to be approved by the Parliament.

The Hon. Paul TELUKLUK, Member for Malekula demanded the number of members of the Convention.

The Hon. Minister TOSUL responded that he would give out the information later. However, in the Pacific, he said that Vanuatu was the only member.

The motion that the Bill be read a first time was unanimously approved.

COMMITTEE STAGE

Section 1: “Ratification”

The Hon. James BULE, Member for Ambae, said that a provision of the bill mentioned financial assistance and equipment for the conservation and management of fish stocks. Therefore, he asked about the kind of financial aid that Vanuatu would receive after the approval of the bill.

11 16. The Hon. TOSUL responded that the European Union would assist in terms of finance through the Ambassador of Vanuatu in Brussels. He confirmed that the European Union had assisted the Ministry for a period of 6 months and had the period extended to 9 months due to progress that had encouraged the Ministry to undertake consultations on islands.

17. Section 1 was unanimously approved.

18. Section 2 was unanimously approved.

SECOND READING

19. The Hon. David TOSUL, Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries, Forestry and Biosecurity thanked the Members for their comments and then moved that the bill be read a second time and do pass.

20. The motion that the Bill be read a second time and do pass was unanimously approved.

BILL FOR PLANT PROTECTION (AMENDMENT) ACT NO. OF 2013

FIRST READING

21. The Hon. David TOSUL, Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries, Forestry and Biosecurity introduced the bill, explained its purpose then moved that the bill be read a first time.

22. The Hon. Ham LINI, Leader of the Opposition, said that if there was a change in Government, ongoing projects had to be continued.

23. The Hon. Paul TELUKLUK asked the reason why the Government supported livestock export to Solomon Islands. He also asked if a policy was established to assist local farmers in creating their own companies.

24. The Hon. Alfred CARLOT, Member for Efate, said that the Minister of Agriculture and Fisheries had so many responsibilities. He then asked if there was a possibility to separate his responsibilities into 3 other ministries such as the Ministry of Fisheries, of Agriculture and the Ministry of Livestock.

25. The motion that the bill be read a first time was unanimously approved.

COMMITTEE STAGE

Section 1, “Amendment”

26. Amendment 1 “Section 1 (definition)” was unanimously approved.

27. Amendment 2, “Section 1 (definition of Director)” was unanimously approved.

‘ 28. Amendment 3, “Section 1 (definition of Minister)” was unanimously approved

12 Amendment 4, “Section 1 (definition of Principal Plant Protection Officer)” was unanimously approved.

Amendment 5, “References to Principal Plant Protection Officer” was unanimously approved.

Amendment 6, “Subsection 8(2)” was unanimously approved.

Amendment 7, “Paragraph 9(2)(a)” was unanimously approved.

Amendment 8, “Paragraph 9(2)(b)” was unanimously approved.

Amendment 9, “Section 11”

The Hon. Ham LINI asked the meaning of the word 'bio' in .

The Hon. TOSUL replied that the bio-protection meant protecting plants using toxic products, antibacterial.

Amendment 9 was unanimously approved.

Amendment 10, “Paragraph 14(i)” was unanimously approved.

Amendment 11, “After section 23”

The Hon. Peter VUTA, Member for Ambae, referred to paragraph 3 and questioned the reason why the Ministry of Finance was mentioned instead of the Treasurer of the Ministry of Agriculture.

The Hon. Prime Minister Moana CARCASSES responded that the management of the Public Account was under the responsibility of the Ministry of Finance.

The Hon. Alfred MAOH, Opposition Whip and Member for Santo wished to know the penalty of a person committing an offense and left his debts unsettled at the Ministry of finance.

The Hon. CARCASSES said in that case, a statement would be filed against that person to Court.

Amendment 11 was unanimously approved.

Section 1 was unanimously approved.

Section 2 “Commencement” was unanimously approved.

SECOND READING

The Hon. David TOSUL, Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries, Forestry and Biosecurity thanked both sides of the House for their support and then moved that the bill be read a second time and do pass.

13 46. The Motion that the bill be read a second time and do pass was unanimously approved.

47. The Hon. Joe NATUMAN, Leader for Government Business and Member for Tanna informed the House of the immaturity and the withdrawal of the remaining bills listed to be debated in another session. He added that the Parliament had just completed the matters for the Third Extraordinary Session of 2013.

48. The Speaker BOEDORO announced that according to the declaration made by the Leader of Government Business, the Third Extraordinary Session of 2013 was officially closed.

49 THE THIRD EXTRAORDINARY SESSION OF 2013 WAS OFFICIALLY CLOSED AT 8.20P.M

14 AUTHENTICATION

Les proces-verbaux qui figurent dans le present recueil ont ete etablis par le Secretaire General du Parlement et conformement aux dispositions de 1’Article 18 duReglement Interieur. Ils ont ete corriges et confirmes par le Parlement.

Mr. SAEMON Esmon President du Parlement Secretaire du Parlement DIXIEME LEGISLATURE DU PARLEMENT

TROISIEME SESSION EXTRAORDINAIRE DE 2013

26 novembre 2013

President du Parlement Son Excellence Monsieur BOEDORO Philip

Membres du Bureau du Parlement

Premier Vice-President - monsieur JAMES Jonas Deuxieme Vice-President - monsieur PRASAD Arnold Troisieme Vice-President - monsieur VACHER John Amos Chef du Gouvernement au Parlement - monsieur CARCASSES Moana Kalosil Katokai Chef adjoint du gouvernement au Parlement - monsieur NATAPEI Edward Nipake Chef de I ’Opposition - monsieur LINI Ham Chef adjoint de I ’Opposition - monsieur KILMAN Sato Leader parlementaire - monsieur NATUMAN Joe Chef de file du gouvernement au Parlement - monsieur MAOH Alfred Chef de file de POpposition au Parlement - monsieur SALWAI Chariot Tabimasmas GOUVERNEMENT DE LA REPUBLIQUE DU VANUATU (Ces Ministres composent le Cabinet et occupent leur Bureau le 26 novembre 2013)

Premier ministre et ministre de la M. CARCASSES Moana Kalosil Katokai Fonction publique

Vice Premier ministre et ministre des M. N AT APEI Edward Nipake Affaires £trangeres

Ministre des Services publics et des M. SAIMON Esmon Infrastructures

Ministre des Changements climatiques M. LAKEN Thomas et d’adaptation

Ministre de I’lntlrieur M. CROWBY Patrick Manarewo

Ministre des Finances et de la Gestion M. JIMMY Willy Tapangararua fconomique

Ministre de l’Agriculture, des Forets et M. TOSUL David de la peche

Ministre de la Sante M. VOHOR Serge Rialuth

Ministre de l’Education M. LOUGHMAN Bob

Ministre des Ter res, de la G&dogie, des M. REGENVANU Ralph Mines et des Eaux

Ministre de la Jeunesse et des Sports M. WRIGHT Tony

Ministre du Tourisme, du Commerce et M. PIPITE Marcellino de ITndustrie

Ministre de la Justice et du Bien-etre M. SIMELUM Macky social DIXIEME LEGISLATURE DU PARLEMENT

TROISIEME SESSION EXTRAORDINAIRE DE 2013

26 novembre 2013

M. AMOS John Vacher Depute de Tongoa Groupe Iauko

M. BOEDORO Philip Depute de Maewo PV

M. BOHN Robert Depute d’ Epi PDPV

M. BULE James Depute de Pentecote PNU

M. CARCASSES Moana Depute de Port-Vila cv

M. CARLOT Alfred Depute d’Efate NAT

M. CROWBY Patrick Manarewo Depute de Port-Vila UPM

M. EMELEE Christophe Claude Depute des lies Banks et Torres PNN

M. HAMARILIU B. Issac Deputed’Epi PPP

M. HILTON Dunstan Depute des lies Banks et Torres PPP

M. IAUKO Pascal Depute de Taima Groupe Iauko

M. JAMES Jonas Depute de Paama NAT

M. JIMMY Willie Tapangararua Depute de Port-Vila PLDV

M. KALO Toara Daniel Depute des iles Shepherds CV

M. KALSAKAU Steven Depute d’ Efate RMC

M. KEN Ton Steven Depute de Mallicolo PSP

M. KILMAN Sato Depute de Mallicolo PPP

M. LAKEN Thomas Depute de Tanna IND

M. LENGKON Tao Bruno Depute d’ Ambrym PNU

M. LINI Ham Vanuaroroa Depute de Pentecote PNU

M. LOUGHMAN Bob Depute de Tanna PV

M. LUDVAUNE Jerome Depute de Mallicolo UPM

M. LUM John Depute de Santo Nagriamel

M. MAOH Alfred Depute de Santo PTJ M. MOLI Kalvau Depute deLuganville IND

M. MOLISALE Havo Depute des lies Aor6 et Malo IND

M. MERA Richard Depute d’ Ambae PV

M.NALET Daniel Depute de Mallicolo PTJ

M. NAMEL Richard Ruan Depute de Tanna IND

M. NARI Tony Depute de Pentecote Groupe Iauko

M. NATAPEI Edward Nipake Depute de Port-Vila PV

M. NATUMAN Joe Depute de Tanna PV

M. NAWAI Tessei Depute des iles isolees du Sud PV

M. NEVU Hosea DSputS de Santo Groupe Iauko

M. PIPITE Marcellino Ddput£ de Santo PRV

M. PRASAD Arnold D6put6 de Santo CV

M. REGENVANU Ralph Depute de Port-Vila PTJ

M. SAL WAI Chariot D6put6 de Pentecote RMC

M. SAIMON Esmon Depute de Mallicolo PPM

M. SAMSON Samsen Ddputd de Santo NAG

M. KALTALIU Simeon Ddput6de Mallicolo PV

M. SIMELUM Maki Stanley Depute d’ Ambiym PV

M. STEVENS Morking Depute de Tanna UPM

M. TAIWIA Nato Depute d’ Efate PPM

M. TELUKLUK B. Paul Depute de Mallicolo RMC

M. TOSUL David Depute de Pentecote PPP

M. VOHOR Serge Rialuth D6put6 de Santo UPM

M.VUTA Peter Depute d’Ambae IND

M. WELLS Andr6 George Depute de Luganville PPP

M. WILLIAM K. Gillion Ddputd d’ Efatd PTJ

M. WRIGHT Antoine Tony D^putdde Port-Vila UPM

M. YATAN Silas Rouard Depute de Tanna UPM

IV ABBREVIATIONS DES PARTIS cv Confederation des Verts PAP Parti d'Actions du Peuple IND Independant PPP Parti Progressiste du Peuple MPP Parti Progressiste Melanesien UPM Union des Partis Moderes NCA Association Communautaire Nationale VP Parti du J anuaaku NMA Namangi Aute VRP Parti Republicain du Vanuatu NUP Parti National Unifie ACV Alliance Confederation des Verts NAG Nagriamel VFFP Parti la Famille d ’ Abord du PNV Parti National du Vanuatu Vanuatu PDLV Parti Democratique Liberal du Vanuatu GI Groupe lauko RMC Reunification des Moderes pour le PJT Parti de la Terre et de la Justice Changement PDPV Parti du Developpement Progressif NAT Natatok du Vanuatu PSP Parti de Services du Peuple

v PARLEMENT DE LA REPUBLIOUE DE VANUATU

DIXIEME LEGISATURE DU PARLEMENT

TROISIEME SESSION EXTRAORDINAIRE DE 2013

MARDI26 NOVEMBRE 2013

PRESIDENT : M. BOEDORO Philip., depute de Maewo.

PRESENT : Fiche de presence detruite par le cyclone Pam.

ABSENT:

RETARD:

1. La stance commence a 09h3Omn.

2. M. MOLISALE Havo, depute des iles Aor6 et Malo, dit la priere.

3. Le President BOEDORO declare que, confonnement a 1’Article 21.4) de la Constitution, le quorum requiert la presence de deux tiers des deputes dans n’importe quelle stance et, notifiant la presence de 35 deputes, il declare que le Parlement peut Ugalement et constitutionnellement pioceder aux affaires de cette troisidme session extraordinaire pour lesquelles il a ete convoque.

4. Appuye par M. MAOH Alfred, chef de file du gouvemement au Parlement et ddputd de Santo, M. NATUMAN Joe, chef du groupe majoritaire au Parlement et depute de Tanna, prdsente la motion de suspendre Particle 16.2) du Reglement Int6rieur pour permettre au Parlement de singer de 18h30mn A 21h00mn.

5. La motion de suspendre Particle 16.2) du Reglement intdrieur estapprouvee par 34 voix.

PROJET DE LOI NO. DE 2013 SUR LES ACCIDENTS DU TRAVAIL (MODIFICATION).

PREMIERE LECTURE

6. M. CROWBY Patrick, ministre des Affaires int&rieures et depute de Port-Vila, prdsente le projet de Loi, en explique les motifs et en propose PExamen en premiere lecture. 7. M. CARCASSES Moana, Premier ministre et depute de Port-Vila, remercie d’ abord le ministre de la presentation du projet de Loi puis affirme que la responsabiiite du gouvemement est de proteger les travailleurs. Il ajoute qu’apres un long moment, le gouvemement veut maintenant s’assurer que les droits des travailleurs soient proteges et que leurs compensations seront decidees par une commission tripartite. II felicite neanmoins le ministre CROWBY pour le grand travail accompli.

8. M. VUTA Peter, depute d’Ambae, demande des precisions sur l’ensemble du projet de Loi, lequel lui semble se focaliser sur les Societes. Dans cette perspective, il veut savoir si le projet de Loi couvre les petites entreprises qui ne seront pas en mesure de payer les montants. 11 dit comprendre qu'ii y a des questions en suspens sur I’indemnisation des travailleurs et demande si le gouvemement peut proceder aux paiements retroactifs desdites compensations une fois le projet de Loi adopte.

9. M. CARLOT Alfred, depute d’Efate, declare que nombreux sont les travailleurs qui n’ont jamais ete indemnises, ni meme beneficier de leurs primes de retraite. Il exhorte ensuite le gouvemement a envisager serieusement cette question.

.10. Le ministre CROWBY rdpond que le projet de Loi couvre toutes les Socidtes ayant une couverture d’assurance pour eviter les ennuis a la fin. A titre d'exemple, il cite la Societe de Tusker qui a tous ses employes assures. Enfin, il partage 1‘idee que le gouvemement doit envisager serieusement les questions en suspens et s’assurer que les gens b&teficient de leurs compensations en cas d’accident.

'11. M. HILTON Dunstan, depute des iles Banks et Torres, declare qu’il est temps que le gouvemement considere toutes les questions en suspens et, appuyant le projet de Loi, il remercie le ministre de 1’avoir presente.

12. M. LUDVAUNE Jerome, depute de Mallicolo, declare que le projet de Loi ne presente pas • le pourcentage de perte de vie. En reference a la note descriptive, il demande que le terme « disabled » soit corrige en y ajoutant « partly disabled » avant approbation.

13. Le ministre CROWBY tient a preciser que le montant des compensations de ddces est de 8 640 000 Vt et que le pourcentage doit etre calcule en fonction dudit montant total.

14. Le Premier ministre CARCASSES explique en outre que les nombreuses fautes dans les deux versions du projet de Loi sont dues & l’emploi d’un seul traducteur mais que le bureau du Cabinet Juridique de 1’Etat recrutera plus de traducteurs pour faciliter le travail.

15. La motion portant adoption du projet de Loi en premiere lecture est approuvee a l’unanimite.

EXAMEN EN COMMISSION

Article 1, « Modification ».

16. La modification 1, « Clause 1 de Fannexe », est approuvee a l’unanimite. La modification 2, « Clause 3 de l’annexe », est approuvee a 1’unanimite.

La modification 3, « Clause 4 de I’Annexe », est approuvee A 1’unanimite.

L’article 1 est approuve a 1’unanimite.

L’article 2, « Entree en vigueur », est approuve a 1’unanimite.

DEUXIEME LECTURE

M. CROWBY Patrick, ministre des Affaires interieures, remercie l’Assemblee de sa contribution et propose que le projet de Loi soit lu et adopte en deuxieme lecture.

La motion portant adoption du projet de Loi en deuxieme lecture est approuvee a 1’unanimite.

PROJET DE LOI NO. DE 2013 SUR LE DRAPEAU ET LES ARMOIRIES DE - L’ETAT (MODIFICATION).

PREMIERE LECTURE

M. CROWBY Patrick, ministre des Affaires interieures, presente le projet de Loi, en explique les motifs et en propose 1’Examen en premiere lecture.

M. LINI Ham, Chef de 1’Opposition et depute de Pentecote, souligne l’importance de preserver notre identite nationale. Il dit observer, neanmoins, 1’absence de penalites applicabies aux violations de la Loi sur le Droit d’auteur.

Le ministre CROWBY explique que de nombreux projets de Loi sont tires de la regiementation commune et que le gouvemement envisage maintenant les meilleures fafons de realiser des recedes. Il assure l’Assemblee qu’apr^s l’approbation et 1’Entree en vigueur du present projet de Loi, les personnes et les societes payeront des frais de non- conformite.

M. MAOH Alfred, Chef de file du gouvemement au Parlement et depute de Santo, se dit preoccupy de l’utilisation du drapeau provincial et demande si ce projet de Loi couvre ce dernier et celui de la municipalite aussi.

Le ministre CROWBY repond que le projet de Loi ne couvre que le drapeau de l’Etat mais que le gouvemement va aussi considerer dans un futur proche les deux drapeaux citds.

La motion portant adoption du projet de Loi en premiere lecture est approuvee a 1’unanimite.

EXAMEN EN COMMISSION

Article 1,« Modification ». Modification I, «Apr£s Particle 1».

29. M. SALWAI Chariot, depute de Pentecote, propose de corriger « midifier » qui devient « modifier » dans la version franqaise du projet de Loi.

30. Le ministre CROWBY demande au parlementaire de repeter sa proposition.

31. M. SALWAI demande de remplacer le terme « midifier » par « modifier » et d’ajouter • «tel que » devant « modifier ». Il demande aussi de remplacer « un loi » par « une loi» tout au long.

32. Le Secretaire general, M. KALNPEL Louis, confirme les corrections.

. 33. Le ministre CROWBY explique qu’il s’agit des erreurs de frappe mais dit en prendre note tout en demandant de corriger.

34. M. CARCASSES Moana, Premier ministre, confirme la reponse du ministre CROWBY.

35. Le ministre CROWBY demande a 1’Assemble d’aider a corriger en supprimant «midifier» pour le remplacer par «modifier» et en ajoutant «tel que» devant «modifier » a chaque presentation, Il demande aussi de supprimer le «e» & la fin de « prevue ».

36. La modification 1 avec correction est approuvee a l’unanimite.

37. La modification 2, «Paragraphe 2(2) », est approuvee a l’unanimite.

38. L’article 1 est approuve a l’unanimite.

39. L’article 2, “Entree en vigueur”. est approuve a l’unanimite.

DEUXIEME LECTURE

40. M. CROWBY Patrick, ministre des Affaires interieures remercie l’Assembtee de sa contribution et propose que le projet de Loi soit lu et adopts en deuxieme lecture.

41. La motion portant adoption du projet de Loi en deuxieme lecture est approuvee A l’unanimite.

42. La stance est suspendue & 10h40mn et reprend A llhlOmn.

PROJET DE LOI No. DE 2013 SUR L’ACCORD SUR LES MESURES DU RESSORT DE L’ETAT DU PORT VISANT A PREVENIR, CONTRECARRER ET ELIMINER LA PECHE ILLICITE, NON DECLAREE ET NON REGLEMENTEE (RATIFICATION)

PREMIERE LECTURE I M. TOSUL David, ministre de I’Agriculture, des Peches, de la Sylviculture et de la* Biosecurite et depute de Pentecote, presente le projet de Loi, en explique les motifs et en propose 1’examen en premiere lecture.

M. LINI Ham, Chef de l’Opposition et depute de Pentecote, annonce que l’Opposition soutiendra le projet de Loi et demande les avantages que le Vanuatu beneficiera s’il ratifie cette convention.

M. TOSUL repond que le Vanuatu doit ratifier certaines importantes Traitees relatives aux Peches pour se placer dans le cadre des relations de peches intemationales. 11 remercie 1’Union Europeenne d’alerter le Vanuatu par la carte jaune evitant de se trouver sur la liste grise.

M. CARCASSES Moana, Premier ministre, declare que la zone maritime du Vanuatu est trcs vaste et que le gouvemement doit s’assurer que toutes activites de peches entreprises dans cette zone soient conformes aux Lois locales. Il encherit que l’Etat doit enregjstrer et verifier tous les navires battant pavilion vanuatais qui se livrent aux activites de peches • parce qu’ils doivent, selon la Loi, payer une patente ou un permis a l’Etat. 11 rappelle que l’annde demi&re, la collecte des revenus dans ce domaine a dtd de 1.5 millions Vt et que'ce serait un gachis de laisser ces navires depouiller toutes nos ressources maritimes sans verser un centime dans la Caisse de l’Etat. Il remercie ensuite 1’Union Europeenne pour son geste de prevention par la carte jaune.

M. HILTON Dunstan, depute des iles Banks et Torres, declarant son soutient au projet de Loi, affirme F importance de ratifier lesdites Traitees. Il demande si le gouvemement a 1’intention de retablir le Service de contrdle des Peches Maritimes du Vanuatu pour controler nos ressources maritimes et nos eaux frequences par les navires de peches Strangers.

M. MAOH Alfred, depute de Santo, insiste sur la necessite de mettre en place un plan B pour assister le bateau RV Tukoro qui est trop seul pour controler les zones maritimes de la Republique du Vanuatu. Il demande au gouvemement de revoir les limites de nos zones maritimes car il y a des peches illdgales entreprises dans la zone de la Province de Torba et au Nord-Ouest de Santo.

M. TOSUL repond qu’actuellement le bateau RV Tukoro est sous la direction du Service de 1’Agriculture et des Peches qui travaille en collaboration avec la Force Mobile du Vanuatu pour controler et attraper les navires entrant illegalement dans la zone maritime du Vanuatu. Il explique que la carte jaune transmise par 1’Union Europeenne est un avertissement A la Republique du Vanuatu sur les activites des peches illegales a Finterieur de ses eaux mais qu’avec la ratification des Traitds, le Vanuatu sera assist^ fermement pour renforcer son systeme de contrdle. Il ajoute que l’Article 5 de ce Traite prevoit des relations intemationales entre les pays signataires du Traite pour renforcer le systdme de contrdle et Exchange des informations sur les activitds de peches illegales. Se referent a la zone de * Matthew et Hunter, il precise qu’elle reste encore une affaire juridique sur la possession de la zone rdclamee par le Vanuatu et la Nouvelle-Caledonie et que tout navire pechant dans cette zone peut dtre attrapd par l’un des deux pays. 50. La seance est suspendue a llh30mn et reprend a 14h30mn.

,51. M. CARCASSE Moana, Premier ministre, declare que le RV Tukoro fait 1’objet d'une renovation complete en Australie et va couter au gouvemement un montant estim6 a 700 millions Vt. Devant l’Assemblee, il remeTcie les gouvemements fran^ais, australien et neo-zelandais du financement de la surveillance effectuee autour des eaux vanuataises.

52. M. SIMELUM Maki, ministre des Finances et de la gestion economique, declare qu’il est temps que tous les accords sur la peche soient ratifies au moment oil le nombre de la peche aux thons augmente rapidement dans les eaux vanuataises. Il ajoute que la ratification doit dgalement veiller a ce que le drapeau jaune soit retire. 11 renchdrit que le nouveau systeme de controle, ayant coute au gouvemement 15 millions Vt, a ete installe pour surveiller les navires battant pavilion vanuatais en particulier.

53. M. HILTON Dunstan, depute des lies Banks et Torres, declare que peu importe le systeme de Controle, la question de la zone economique exclusive (ZEE) tient toujours. Sur cette note, il veut savoir si le systeme couvre la zone des 6 miles entre le Vanuatu et les lies Salomon.

54. M. TOSUL David, ministre de l'Agriculture et de la Peche et depute de Pentecdte, repond que le systeme de controle surveille tous les navires, ceux en transit comme ceux en activite de peche. Il lance, neanmoins, un appel au public lui demandant de signaler au systeme de surveillance au Service maritime du Vanuatu (SMV), en sa quality de temoins, toute pratique de peche illegale.

55. M. BULE James, depute d’Ambae, declare Timportance d'examiner la conformity et le besoin que le gouvemement informe le public sur le nombre de navires de peche errant actuellement sur les eaux vanuataises. Il declare que les individus doivent dgalement etre responsables de la protection des ressources au meme titre que le SMV qui surveille les eaux. Il demande ensuite le stock de poissons.

56. Le ministre TOSUL dit etre incapable de donner la quantity exacte de poissons tout en informant neanmoins que le stock global de poissons dans le Pacifique est eleve. Il explique que les chiffres de thons sont les plus difficiles a controler parce qu'ils migrent.

57. La motion portant adoption du projet de Loi en premiere lecture est approuvee a l’unanimity.

EXAMEN EN COMMISSION

58. L’article 1, “Ratification”, est approuve a 1’unanimite.

59. L’article 2, “Entrye en vigueur”, est approuvd a 1’unanimite.

DEUXIEME LECTURE M. TOSUL David, ministre de T Agriculture et de la Peche remercie l’Assemblee pour sa , contribution et propose que le projet de Loi soit lu et adopte en deuxieme lecture.

La motion portant adoption du projet de Loi en deuxieme lecture est approuvee a l’unanimite.

PROJET DE LOI NO. DE 2013 SLR ACCORD DE 1993 V1SANT A FAVQRISER LE RESPECT PAR LES NAVIRES DE PECHE EN HAUTE MER DES MESURES INTERNATIONALES DE CONSERVATION ET DE GESTION (RATIFICATION)

PREMIERE LECTURE

M. TOSUL David, ministre de rAgriculture et de la Peche, presente le projet de loi, en explique les motifs et en propose 1’examen en premiere lecture.

M. LINI Ham, Chef de l'opposition et depute de la Pentecote, dit noter que cette ratification traite a peu pres les memes problemes que le projet de Loi precedent ( Neanmoins, il veut savoir si les navires battent pavilion vanuatais a cause des locaux qui y travaillent. Il questionne egalement la phase dans laquelle se trouve le Vanuatu dans le present Accord.

M. SALWAI, questionnant l'interet du pays sur l'accord, demande le montant global verse au gouvernement par les navires battant pavilion vanuatais. Il veut Egalement connaitre le' montant recueilli a partir des licences et si elles ont ete emises pour des domaines et des periodes specifiques.

Le ministre TOSUL repond qu’il y a des observateurs presents dans les navires de peche battant pavilion local mais qu’il faudra juste reconsiderer leur periode d’observation. Il declare que tous les pays inclus dans l'accord ont ratifie le projet de Loi et que le Vanuatu doit le faire pour qu’on lui enleve le drapeau jaune. Il assure l’Assemblee qu’il fera une declaration sur les varietes de poissons peches dans les eaux vanuataises. Il conclut que les permis delivres ont couvert la zone economique exclusive des 200 miles, y compris en haute mer, et que la periode est d'un an.

M. BULE James, depute d’Ambae, souligne l'importance de la collecte des donnees effectuee, de preference celles provenant d'autres pays sur lews captures. Il veut alors savoir si Vanuatu a acces aux marches de l'Union europeenne.

Le ministre TOSUL renvoye l’Assemblee a Particle 4 de l'Accord sur les registres des navires de peche. Sur l’accds au marche, il suggere que le ministre responsable du Commerce en apporte quelques precisions. Il conclut que l'usine de transformation de thons a Black Sands constitue toujows un litige foncier et que pow le moment toutes les captures sont dechargees aux lies Fidji.

M. CARLOT Alfred, ddpute d’Efate, en reference a la Compagnie de Peche du Pacifique Sud (CPPS) comme etant l’endroit requis pour les dechargements, demande si le gouvernement a l'intention d’examiner son etat actuel. 69. Le ministre TOSUL repond que la CPPS a ete vendue a un investisseur par ^Association des pecheurs mais que le gouvemement fera de son mieux pour reexaminer la question afin de negocier le rachat. Il convient que la CPPS est I'endroit ideal pour le transport et le dechargement tout en reconnaissant neanmoins que le centre de Black Sands constitue la solution dont le gouvemement traite le litige avec les propridtaires fonciers. Bien que les questions environnementales soient en etat d'alerte, Fidji recueille tout l'argent des captures privant le Vanuatu de la collecte de son chiffre d’affaires.

• 70. M. LOUGHMAN Bob, ministre de l’Education et depute de Tanna, en complement de reponse, affirme que le Vanuatu fait partie de la Communaute Internationale, laquelle donne le droit au gouvemement de veiller a ce qu’il satisfasse toutes les exigences de 1’organisme dont il est membre. Il ajoute que le gouvemement a besoin de former des specialistes de 1’environnement pour aider A repondre a toutes les obligations • intemationales.

71. M. NATAPEI Edward, vice-Premier ministre et ministre des Affaires etrangeres et du Commerce exterieur, exprime sa satisfaction sur les questions soulevees parce qu’elles aideront FAssemblee et le public egalement, a comprendre le but du projet de Loi. Il dit , que le drapeau jaune devra etre retire pour donner plus de chance au Vanuatu de bdneficier de f accord, meme si certains pays ont gagne le drapeau rouge.

72. M. SIMELUM Maki, ministre des Finances et de la gestion 6conomique, dit esp6rer que toutes les questions seront regibes pour permettre au Vanuatu de pouvoir beneficier de son chiffre d’affaires. Il ajoute que le gouvemement a besoin de completer sa location impaybe de terre abritant Tusine de Black Sands afin d'assurer, comme il se doit, sa fonctionnalitb. Il precise ensuite qu’il est temps que le Vanuatu ratifie 1’accord qui a deja ete adopts il y a 20 ans,

73. La motion portant adoption du projet de Loi en premiere lecture est appiouvee a • l’unanimith.

EXAMEN EN COMMISSION

74. L’article 1, « Ratification », est approuve A l’unanimitb.

Article 2, “Entrbe en vigueur”

75. M. NATUMAN Joe, chef du groupe majoritaire au Parlement et depute de Tanna, suggbre de specifier que la ratification entre en vigueur au Vanuatu a la date de son approbation au Parlement.

76. L’article 2 est approuve i l’unanimite.

DEUXIEME LECTURE

77. M. TOSUL David, ministre de rAgriculture et de la Peche, remercie 1’Assemblbe de sa contribution et propose que le projet de Loi soit lu et adopte en deuxieme lecture. 78. La motion portant adoption du projet de Loi en deuxieme lecture est approuvde F unanimity.

79. La stance est suspendue & 15h40mn et reprend A 16h20mn.

80. Le President BOEDORO annonce que la seance reprendra a 18h30mn, le quorum n’ayant pas dtd atteint.

81. La stance est ajournSe 16h21mn. PARLEMENT DE LA REPUBLIQUE DE VANUATU

DIXIEME LEGISATURE DU PARLEMENT

TROISIEME SESSION EXTRAORDINAIRE DE 2013

MARDI26 NOVEMBRE 2013

SEANCES DE NUIT

PRESIDENT : M. BOEDORO Philip., depute de Maewo.

PRESENT : Fiche de presence detniite par le cyclone Pam.

ABSENT :

RETARD:

1. La seance commence a 18h3 5mn.

2. M. LUDVAUNE Jerome, depute de Mallicolo, dit la priere.

, 3. Le President annonce 1 ’ ordre du j our.

PROJET DE LOI No, DE 2013 SUR L’ACCORD DUR L’APPLICATION DES DISPOSITIONS DE LA CONVENTION DES NATIONS UN1ES SUR LE DROIT DE LA MER DU DECEMBRE 1982 RELATIVES A LA CONSERVATION ET A LA GESTION DES STOCKS CHEVAUCHANT ET DES STOCKS DE POISSONS GRANDS M1GRATEURS (RATIFICATION)

PREMIERE LECTURE

4. M. TOSUL David, ministre de 1’Agriculture, des Peches, de la Sylviculture et de la Bios6curit6 et depute de Pentecote, prdsente le projet de Loi, en explique les motifs en propose Texamen en premiere lecture.

5. M. LINI Ham. Chef de POpposition et depute de Pentecote, declare que le Vanuatu est oblige de ratifier cette convention parce qu’il est depourvu de moyens de conservation et de . gestion des stocks de poissons. Cependant, il veut connaitre les avantages que le Vanuatu en beneficiera une fois ce ptojet de Loi adopte. M. TOSUL repond que le Vanuatu, etant signataire de cette Convention, il doit ratifier ce projet de Loi pour se sortir de la carte jaune. Il ajoute que cette convention permettra au' Vanuatu d’augmenter les frais de licence des bateaux battants pavilions vanuatais a travers les Oceans. Il encherit que le Vanuatu beneficiera d'un (1) million Vt s’il adopte ce projet de Loi en cooperant et respectant les regies des conventions intemationales sous risque de ne pas avancer.

M. NATUMAN Joe, Chef du groupe majoritaire et depute de Tanna, declare que cette Convention protege la conservation et la gestion des stocks de poissons. 11 souligne que la carte jaune est un avertissement de 1’Union Europeenne sur les navires de peches illegales dans nos zones maritimes. 11 partage le fait que le Vanuatu doit ratifier cette convention pour son economie nationale, pour la survie de son peuple soumise a 1’augmentation demographique et parce que le poisson constitue aussi une source vitale pour le futur.

M. KALSAKAU Steven, depute d’Efate, rappelle que ces conventions doivent etre ratifiees au Parlement puisqu’ elles sont deja appliquees. Il declare que la zone maritime de la Rdpublique du Vanuatu est plus vaste que la zone terrestre. Insistant sur Timportance de conserver et de gerer les stocks de poissons, il exprime la necessite de renforcer le systeme < de surveillance pour pouvoir controler les peches illegales dans nos eaux. Il justifie son point de vue sur un fait s’etant produit en Nouvelle-Caledonie concemant un navire saisi avec 40 tonnes de requins peches. 11 annonce que d’apres les articles 27 et 28, les chercheurs scientifiques d’ORSTOM ont prouvd, apres une etude, que cette quantite est pechee dans la zone maritime de la Republique du Vanuatu. Se referant a l’Article 18.2), il declare Timportance que le gouvemement controle aussi les permis de peche s’il les delivre.

M. MAOH Alfred, Chef de file de 1’Opposition et depute de Santo, soutenant la ratification, suggere que le gouvemement du Vanuatu trouve des etudiants qualifies en droit dans les questions maritimes.

M. TOSUL remercie les deputes pour les commentaires. Il informe l’Assemblee que le gouvemement du Vanuatu a introduit des nouveaux systemes traitant les affaires des peches illSgaux et le controle des zones maritimes nationales. Concemant la suggestion de M. MAOH, il demande au ministre de T Education de la commenter.

M. STEVENS Morking Iatika, depute de Tanna, remercie le ministre pour cette ratification importante que le Parlement va adopter.

M. TELUKLUK Paul, depute de Mallicolo, demande combien de pays sont signataires de cette convention.

Le ministre TOSUL repond qu’il donnera une information plus tard mais dit etre conscient que dans le Pacifique, le Vanuatu est le seul membre.

La motion portant adoption du projet de Loi en premiere lecture est approuvee a l’unanimite.

EXAMEN EN COMMISSION Article 1, « Ratification ».

15. M, BULE James, depute d’Ambae, declare qu’une disposition de ce projet de Loi stipule des aides financieres et des equipements pour la conservation et la gestion des stocks de poissons. Il veut connaitre le genre d’aide financiere que le Vanuatu recevra une fois ce projet de Loi adopte.

16. M. TOSUL repond que 1’Union Europeenne assistera financierement a travers l’Ambassadeur du Vanuatu en Bruxelles. Il confirme que l’Union Europeenne a soutenu le ministere pendant une pdriode de 6 mois avec une extension de p6riode de 9 mois grace aux progres effechtes, une aide qui a encourage le ministere a entreprendre des consultations dans les lies.

17. L’article 1 est approuve & l’unanimite.

18. L’article 2 est approuve & l’unanimite.

DEUXIEME LECTURE

19. M. TOSUL David, ministre de 1’Agriculture, des Peches, de la Sylviculture et de la Biosecurite, remercie les deputes pour les commentaires et propose le projet de Loi en deuxieme lecture.

20. La motion portant adoption du projet de Loi en deuxieme lecture est approuvde A l’unanimite.

PROJET DE LOI No. DE 2013 SUR LA PROTECTION DES VEGETAUX (MODIFICATION)

PREMIERE LECTURE

21. M. TOSUL David, ministre de 1’Agriculture, de la Peche, de la Sylviculture et de la Biosecurite, ptesente le projet de Loi, en explique les motifs et en propose l’examen en premiere lecture.

22. M. LINI Ham, Chef de 1’Opposition, declare que les changements au sein du gouvemement ne doivent aiTeter le travail dej& entante.

23. M. TELUKLUK Paul demande pourquoi le gouvemement promeut l’exportation du bdtail aux iles Salomons et s’il y a une politique etablie qui aide les fermiers locaux A cteer leurs propres firmes.

24. M. CARLOT Alfred, depute d’Efate, dit que le ministere de PAgriculture et des Peches a trop de responsabilite. II demande s’il y a des possibilites de scinder le ministere en trois ministdres qui seront celui des Peches, celui de PAgriculture et le celui du B^tail. 25. La motion portant adoption du projet de Loi en premiere lecture est approuvee a lunanimite.

EXAMEN EN COMMISSION

Article 1, « Modification ».

26. La modification 1, « Article 1 (definition) », est approuvee a l’unanimite.

27. La modification 2, « Article 1 (definition de directeur », est approuvee a l’unanimite.

28. La modification 3, « Article 1 (definition de Ministre », est approuvee a l’unanimite.

29. La modification 4, «Article 1 (definition d’agent phytosanitaire principal», est approuvee a l’unanimite.

30. La modification 5, «Citations d’agent phytosanitaire principal», est approuvee A l’unanimite.

31. La modification 6, « Paragraphe 8.2) », est approuvee a l’unanimite.

32. La modification 7, « Alinea 9.2)a) », est approuvee a l’unanimite

33. La modification 8, « Alinka 9.2)b)». est approuvee a l’unanimite.

Modification 9, « Article 11 ».

34. M. LINI Ham demande la signification du mot biosecurite en bichlamar.

35. M. TOSUL repond que biosecurite signifie proteger les plantes en utilisant des produits toxiques et des antibactenens.

36. La modification 9 est approuvee a l’unanimite.

37. La modification 10, « Alinea 14.i) », est approuvee a l’unanimite.

Modification 11, « A pres 1’article 23 ».

38. M. VUTA Peter, depute d’Ambae, se referant au paragraphe 3, demande pourquoi cette disposition stipule le ministere des Finances et non le Tresorier financier du ministere de, 1’Agriculture.

39. M. CARCASSES Moana, Premier ministre, repond que c’est le ministere des Finances qui gere le revenu public.

40. M. MAOH Alfred, Chef de file de l’Opposition et depute de Santo, veut savoir ce qui adviendra a une personne commettant une infraction et qui ne paiera pas le montant de sa pcnalite au ministere des Finances. ,41. M. CARCASSES souligne que dans ce cas, la personne sera traduite devant la Cour.

42. La modification 11 est approuvee a l’unanimite.

43. L’article 1 est approuve a l’unanimite.

* 44. L’article 2, « Entree en viguenr », est approuve a l’unanimite.

DEUXIEME LECTURE

45. M. TOSUL David, ministre de 1’Agriculture, des Peches, de la Sylviculture et de la * Biosecurite, remercie l’Assemblee pour sa contribution et propose que le projet de Loi soit lu et adopte en deuxieme lecture.

46. La motion portant adoption du projet de Loi en deuxieme lecture est approuvee a l’unanimite.

47. M. NATUMAN Joe, Chef du groupe majoritaire et depute de Tanna, annonce que les projets de Loi listes, mais non echus, seront retires et presentes a autre session parlementaire. Il ajoute que le Parlement vient de completer les affaires de cette Troisieme Session Extraordinaire de 2013.

'48. Le President BOEDORO declare que suite a la declaration du Chef du groupe majoritaire, la Troisieme Session Extraordinaire de 2013 est officiellement close.

49 LA TROISIEME SESSION EXTRAORDINAIRE DE 2013 DE LA DIXIEME LEGISLATURE EST OFFICIELLEMENT CLOSE A 20H20MN.