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John Boccacino: Hello, and welcome back to be 'Cuse Conversations Podcast. My name is John Boccacino, the Communications Specialist in Syracuse University's Office of Alumni Engagement.

Scott Hanson: I appear on Sundays on your television and in your living room, but I'm grinding on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday, just to saturate my mind with everything that could possibly come up on an NFL RedZone episode, because the show is seven hours. It's ad-libbed. I don't know what game is going to be the fantastic finish or the controversial call or the amazing milestone that's reached, but we're going to have two or three or four of them that are going to be jaw-dropping. I don't know which ones. So I got to study for all of them.

John Boccacino: Scott Hansen has enjoyed a decorated sportscasting career since graduating with a broadcast journalism degree from Newhouse in 1993. But the role that he's best known for is as host of NFL RedZone, the NFL's live whip around the league show dedicated to getting fans of all 32 teams a look at every touchdown and every big highlight from their game that week. It's a unique role for Hanson, a former walk-on, and four year member of the Orange Football team. For seven consecutive commercial free hours each Sunday during the regular season, Scott acts as the eyes, ears, and voice of the NFL through a fast paced and frenetic show. It takes a [inaudible] guy to pull off a broadcasting feat like this, but I got to imagine you love the adrenaline rush of doing this week in and week out?

Scott Hanson: Oh, 100%. It is a thrill ride, unlike anything else. And I've done some interesting broadcasts, but hosting NFL RedZone, it's been the thrill of my career, and the vehicle for my career that has facilitated an amazing life that I've enjoyed all the way from the early nineties back there on the hill at Syracuse. And by the way, John, great to be with you on the show here today. Thanks for having me.

John Boccacino: Absolutely. It's a pleasure to have you on here talking NFL football. We love our summers, but when football rolls around, the Dome will be rocking this year for the 'Cuse and the action for all 32 teams is going to ramp up soon. This is a pressure packed environment, Scott, that you find yourself in hosting the NFL RedZone. What made this job so attractive to you?

Scott Hanson: I've always been a 10,000 foot view type of guy in sports. I not only want to know the minutia, the individual details of a game, a team, a player, I want to know the big picture. I always want to see what the macro ideas that are coming out of my favorite sport of football. And to give you a little illustration to that, before I became host of NFL RedZone, 12 years ago, this will be our 13th season this year, for two or three years, I was a roving reporter for NFL Network. So they would send me to an individual game, whatever it would be, "Hey, go to Gillette. The Patriots are hosting the Jets. You're going to cover that game that day." So I'd go get my credential, I'd be up in the press box, Tom Brady would be

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taking on the New York Jets there at Gillette Stadium in New England, and I'd have my laptop open up on press row in the media box.

I'd be watching the Patriots live on the field in front of me, but then I'd be elbowing the other reporters to the left and right of me, "Hey, Peyton Manning has 200 yards passing in the first half. Adrian Peterson just popped a 50 yard run in Minnesota. Talking about the other games that were going on, not even the one that was live in front of us there. So I've always wanted to see the big picture. And when I heard in 2009, it was the summer of 2009, that the NFL was going to start up this concept, NFL RedZone, and what it was going to be, every touchdown from every game, seven hours, no commercials, this action packed show.

I called up the talent coordinator and I said, "Hey, is it true that you guys are starting this," and he was like, "Yep." I said, "Who do you got to host it," he goes, "Well, we're looking at some people." And I said, "Is my name on the list?" They had already known me for working two or three years for them as a roving reporter, seen I think my knowledge of the game, my passion for the game, my energy that I bring to my career, and they said, "Yeah, yeah. Your name's on the list." We had an audition basically to submit the deal, and obviously it went well enough for me, and here I am, 12 going on 13 seasons later.

John Boccacino: The only host of NFL RedZone. It's fantastic. And it really does seem like it's a great fit. You are, I can tell just off the first couple of minutes, high octane, high energy, and I love the fact that you're watching the Patriots play at Foxboro And you're still thinking about, "Well, what's happened with Peyton Manning? What's happening with AP?" Has that always been the way your brain functions, where it's multitasking, and it's not just one thing at a time?

Scott Hanson: Yeah, that's a good question. My mom will tell you, "Yes," because when I was named host of NFL RedZone, the first episode was coming up. So we're talking September of 2009. And I called my mom up and she had known that I was taking a different role with NFL Media, but I was like, "Mom, you've got to watch this show. This show, if we do it right, if I do it right, if we do it right, it is going to be a galactic success." So she was like, my mom could care less about football other than when I played, she would always be there and watching the games and root me on like a great parent would. And I did the first show and I called her up after the show, and I'm like, "Mom, mom, what'd you think?" And she's like, "Well, Scott, you act like I haven't been seeing you do this your whole life."

I'm like, "Really?" I'm like, "What?" She goes, "I used to watch you in the living room." Now, this was back in the day. I grew up in the eighties primarily, and there was no Sunday ticket on DirecTV. There was no... So I grew up in Michigan. So we'd have the Detroit Lions game on the main TV. Now, maybe on one of the other channels, we could get a second game. So I would wheel in my dad's TV from his den and extend a long cable and put it in. A lot of people do

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that now, but back then it was like, "That was weird." I would even turn on a radio to see if I could catch a different broadcast of a different NFL game, or maybe like an all sports radio, whip around coverage, them talking about who's scoring, whatever like that. And then I'd have a newspaper and a magazine in front of me that had stats and facts and whatnot that were leading into those games.

I would sit there and do all of that all at the same time. And my mom reminded me, "Scott, you used to do that all the time. That was a routine thing that you would do on an NFL Sunday." And when I was there at Syracuse, I had a great buddy of mine, Dave Donovan, he's a terrific alum of Syracuse. We were contemporaries in class together. And he and I, I was playing football, so I might have a workout in the morning. Like the day after the game, they would have a light workout for the football team. But then in the afternoon we would be free on our own free time, and him and I would drive out to a sports bar out in... Oh, goodness. I wish I could remember the name. I want to say it was called like... It might not be there at Syracuse anymore.

Bleachers or something. Something like a sports bar name. Maybe in Liverpool? I can't remember exactly where it was, but we would drive out to a sports bar and we would sit there and just watch every single game. And we just ate it up at our time at Syracuse. So, yeah, I've always been kind of a multitasker. And I don't know, now we're recording this on audio, but if we also have the cameras available, I don't know if you can see over there, but that's my media wall here in my condo in Los Angeles. I have five televisions on my media wall, a 70 inch screen flanked by four 50 inch screens. So yeah. Multitasking is not something that intimidates me at all.

John Boccacino: Listen, you are living the dream. I love seeing that setup you got there, the five TVs going on. It's basically a sports' fans fantasy, what you get to do. And I know it's not without its challenges. We'll get into that. But when this started in 2009, did you think it was going to have anywhere near the popularity and staying power that it has now?

Scott Hanson: It's easy to say yes, because of course it's tremendously successful. But I am going to say yes, and I have proof that I felt that way. And here's what I mean by that. So when we developed it in summer of 2009, we had a dress rehearsal, we had a couple of dry runs, we had a dress rehearsal. And I remember speaking to our producers, Jonathan Kaplan and Kent Kamera are our original producers. Jonathan Kaplan, Syracuse grad as well. He's over at Fox Sports right now, but he was with us at NFL Media back in the day. I said, "You guys, if we do this right, people won't want to watch football any other way if we do this well." And on the very first episode, September of 2009, and the video clip still exists, I came on the air and I said something to the effect of, "Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to NFL RedZone. The channel that we hope will change the way you watch football forever."

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Now, it could have seemed like bombast at the time saying something like that, but I meant it then, and here we are going on 13 seasons later. There's not a week that goes by that I don't hear from fans, "You guys changed the way I watch football forever," "I don't ever want to watch football any other way," or, "When my favorite team is not playing, I'm on RedZone." I hear it from NFL players, that they're saying, "If I'm not playing at whatever specific time, I've got RedZone on. Either at my home, if I'm on the bi-week," or, "I'm playing on Monday night football, we'll watch RedZone on Sunday," or, "If I'm playing in the late window, we've got it on in the locker room three hours before the game." It's a heck of a flattering thing. So yes, I did believe it was going to be, that it could be, and I was hoping that it would be, and figured that it would be the type of success that it's proven to be.

John Boccacino: And, of course, I read an article that mentioned that even Tom Brady came up to you at one point and was like, "Hey, love the NFL RedZone." I mean, you got the reining however many time MVP and Super Bowl champion seven times over coming up and applauding your work. That's got to be a little surreal, right? To have the most popular decorated football player in the world be like, "Hey, listen. I watch you."

Scott Hanson: No, it really is. And he's done it a couple of different times. I would see him at the Super Bowl just about every year, because it felt like he was playing in it just about every year. Usually going into the week, when I go to the Super Bowl, I'm there for about a week, and on Monday, it used to be Tuesday, we called it media day. Now, it's Monday and it's at night, and we call it Opening Night, Superbowl Opening Night. And I have hosted those festivities for the people that are there in the arena, and they put it on TV of course too, and Brady would come up to me. One of my duties during that three hour extravaganza is to introduce the team captains, "So from the NFC champion, Atlanta Falcons, welcome Matt Ryan and the guys," duh duh duh duh duh, "and from the AFC champion, New England Patriots, welcome Tom Brady."

So he would walk up on stage and they would shake hands and the trophy was there and I'd be standing right behind. And after we would do that, he would always come back over to me, we'd go to commercial break or whatever, and they could step down off the stage, but he always would come back over to me and tap me on the shoulder and be like, "Scott, I love RedZone, man. It's so great." Now, Brady is old enough that his kids are starting to grow up a little bit and get into football, and I guess they're playing fantasy football as a family or whatever, and so that's the perfect application. So even in the Tom Brady household, NFL RedZone will be on there when he's on the bi-week or playing on Monday night or Thursday night or whatever the case may be. I don't get star struck. I've dealt with every athlete just about that there is. But it's still pretty cool when the G.O.A.T. comes over and says, "Hey, hey, I really like your work. I love what you guys do."

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John Boccacino: Now, week in and week out, you have, again, the unenviable task of preparing for every game that's on the slate, whether it's teams fighting for playoff position or an 0 and 10 versus one and nine squad. How do you prepare for a football Sunday, and how do you stay so focused for those seven straight hours?

Scott Hanson: Yeah, that's a great question, because my job is a little bit like... I don't want to overstate it. It's a little bit like an NFL football player, and that is they work what seems like countless hours, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, leading into the game. The only thing that really matters is that three hour game for an NFL player, "Did you win? Did you lose? Did you play well? Didn't you play?" You put in all this work to lead up to that, to peak at that moment. That's what kind of my life is like. I appear on Sundays on your television, in your living room, but I'm grinding on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday, just to saturate my mind with everything that could possibly come up on an NFL RedZone episode, because the show is seven hours, it's adlibbed.

I don't know what game is going to be the fantastic finish or the controversial call or the amazing milestone that's reached, but we're going to have, out of the 12, 13, 14 games that we're handling on any Sunday, we're going to have two or three or four of them that are going to be jaw-dropping. I don't know which ones, so I got to study for all of them. It's a little bit like my days at Syracuse, occasionally we would have a professor in whatever given class it would be that would have the final exam be an essay exam. And I remember my professors at Syracuse saying, "Okay, the final..." You'd come in on Monday, and they'd say, "The final is on Friday. It's an essay exam. Here are 10 essay questions that represent everything we've learned this semester. But the exam is only 90 minutes, so three of these questions are going to be on the final exam." Now, which three do you study?

If you're a diligent student, you study all 10, and that's what the professor wanted you to do. And then when you sit down on Friday, you see which three they are and you're prepared for it. Well, extrapolate that to an NFL RedZone episode. I've got 12, 13, 14 games. I don't know which ones are going to be the ones that everyone's talking about for the rest of the week, but I guarantee you 2, 3, 4 of them will be. So I study all of them. Again, the term I use is saturate my mind with facts, stats, figures, anecdotes, history, whatever else there is, and then when it presents itself on Sunday, hopefully I'm ready to roll with it live during those seven hours,

John Boccacino: Was there a seminal moment, a week, a show, when it all clicked and you realized, "You know what? By Jove, we're on to something special, and this is just going to be," like you said, "changing the way that you watch football and take in sports on TV."

Scott Hanson: Yeah. Like I said, from the beginning, I really felt like, "Hey, if we do this the right way, we control every game." In football, the timing of football allows you, with

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a 42nd play clock, allows you to bounce around in a popcorn fashion, and really if you're doing it well, if we are a well-oiled machine, which I hope and believe that we are, you're not going to miss anything. And you can get people the moment anywhere in the football universe, within seconds of it happening, or live. So in terms of, I felt that way going into the first episode, but where it really revealed itself, the first season, we cut to a game where it was Brandon Stokley and Stokley was playing for the Colts, I believe at the time. Or was he with the Broncos? I can't remember now, which one he was with.

But we cut to that game and it was late fourth quarter. We try and focus on the trailing teams that have the football. They're down by three, they need a field goal to tie, touchdown to take the lead. They're down by four, they've got to have a touchdown, but they have the football and they're in a two minute drill. You know something extreme is going to happen one way or another. So we like to cut to those games. Well, Stokley's team was on their own 25 yard line or something. It's 75 yards to go. We're just like, "Well, let's see if they get over midfield," and there wasn't anyone in the RedZone at the time. It seemed like it was a closed game. And all sudden they heave it. I believe it was the Denver Broncos.

I think it was Kyle Orton throwing a pass. And it popped up in the air. Two DBs converged on it, had a chance to pick it off. It would have been a game sealing interception. Instead, it popped up in the air. Stokley ran behind. Stokley wasn't even the intended receiver, ran behind them. The ball popped up in the air where he could field it behind the last two DBs who tried to make the interception, and ran for whatever, a 75 yard touchdown, to win the game in the final seconds of the game. And it was like, we basically just hit the remote. We hit America's remote control at the exact right second to get them that live.

While I think it's bordering on blasphemous a little bit, NFL RedZone has been described as it's as if you're watching TV and God has the remote control. Again, it's a little theologically incorrect for me, but it kind of holds true. If you watch one channel, NFL RedZone, you will see everything that is spectacular in the NFL live, or basically in real time, seconds after it happens. So what's not to love?

John Boccacino: Now, Scott, I think you'll be impressed by this. I've waited 20 minutes to bring up your fantasy football team name, and your most amazing technique in trade, the Iron Bladders. The fact that you don't take a bathroom break. I mean, when I read that, when I heard that, I'm thinking to myself, "No, there's got to be..." Is it what? One time during your hosting duties, you've had to step aside to use the bathroom?

Scott Hanson: First of all, John, well done. You have good Syracuse Orange discipline to hold back until to ask that, because I've gone to every radio show, podcast, talk show. It seems like I've done all of them and they all want to know because everybody's fascinated with it, "Is it true that Hanson doesn't take a pee during NFL?" And the answer is, "Yes, it is true." I have taken... I kind of didn't keep

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track of it for a long time, but then when I realized fans were fascinated by it, I could take a bathroom break, but I don't want to. I don't want to turn my microphone off and walk down the hallway because my IFB, my earpiece, is always live. So I could still, if I walked down to the men's room and was there for whatever, two or three minutes, and I could still hear the games in my ear, I am paranoid that I will hear, "That is the greatest touchdown we've ever seen." Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, or whatever, and I would miss it. I don't want to miss a thing.

So the truth is I dehydrate myself starting on Sunday morning. We have a chef at NFL Media that makes me the same dense protein salty breakfast, so I can retain water. I have one... I don't drink coffee. I don't need coffee to get me going in the morning. So I have maybe a diet Pepsi or something to get a little caffeine kick in me. I have one little bottle of water that I'll sip on throughout the day, but I cut off all liquids three or four hours prior to the show, and then don't drink anything during the show, don't eat anything during the show, and I just get locked in on the football. I call it that I've got the willpower of a ninja to pass your biological demands and be there for the football audience. And the truth is I have taken one bathroom break in the last eight years I guess it's been.

Like I said, I didn't keep track of it in the beginning, in the first few years, but after people got fascinated with it, I was like, "Well, maybe I ought to keep track." And the one that I took, I was plain hurt. I had gone skiing, it was late in the season, and I went skiing on Wednesday, because my days off are in the middle of the week. So I went skiing and I fell, took a bad fall skiing, and really, really messed up my rib cartilage. And it kind of threw off my ritual, my systems that I use getting ready for the show on Sunday morning. I ate a little extra. I drank a little extra just to try and give myself a little extra pep because I wasn't sleeping well because of this rib injury. And not to sound, "Oh, I'm some kind of hero or something like that." But I was definitely physically not right doing that show, and I tapped out. I gave in.

I told my producer, when my mic was cut to the live audience, my producer can always hear my microphone, and I said, "Yuntee," Ryan Yunt is his name, and I said, "Yuntee, you're not going to believe this." And he thought I was talking about something that went on in a game that he didn't see, and he goes, "What?" And I go, "I got to go to the bathroom." And I hear the control room go, "Oooh." Like that. They were like, "What? The iron bladder is taking a bathroom break?" So he found me a couple... We got on some drive of some game and we're like, "Okay, hopefully Tom Brady or whoever runs it a little bit of a drive. We can stay on this dry for a little while." I ran down the hallway, did my thing, and I sent out a tweet. I just took my first bathroom break in, at that point it was five years, six years."

It was my most liked tweet ever I believe. It was my most retweeted tweet ever. The fact that I said I went to the bathroom, because everybody seems fascinated by it because everybody can relate to it. Because I think people sit on

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their couch watching NFL RedZone, and like me, they don't want to get up because they don't want to miss the greatest touchdown of all time, which could be 10 seconds away. We don't know. But invariably, they're eating their snacks, they're drinking their beverages, they got to go. So they go to the bathroom and they come back and I'm still talking, and they're like, "Wait a minute. When does Hanson go?" And people are fascinated by it. I try and have a good humor about it. But yes, my fantasy football team's name is the Iron Bladders, and I embrace that moniker.

John Boccacino: It's unbelievable. Your feats of physical endurance that you do week in and week out, putting your body on the line for seven hours. I'm sure it's not unfamiliar to your Syracuse University walk-on days with coach P and coach Mac.

Scott Hanson: Yeah.

John Boccacino: Take us back to those days, Scott. What drew you to Syracuse, and how did you walk onto... Those are some pretty darn good football teams that the 'Cuse had back then.

Scott Hanson: Yes, yes. The climate is different there, I know right now, in the Carrier Dome, and I hope coach Babers gets it right and they get back to their winning ways. But you got to remember, late eighties, early nineties, we were rolling. I mean, we were a top 25 team every year. We finished in the top 10. My senior year, 1992, that season we went 10 and two, then beat Colorado in the Fiesta Bowl. Those were the heyday.

So I grew up in Michigan, like I told you, and grew up loving football, wanting to play football. When I was 10 years old, "I'm going to go to the NFL," and all that. Well, the good Lord didn't see fit to make me 6'5, 250, running a 4-4-40 and all that business. So I had to give up on the NFL dream as a player, probably early high school. Early to mid high school, I kind of knew that, "Yeah, I'm not going to be good enough to go to the NFL." But my parents had encouraged me to find something that you love and try and make a career out of it. So I'm like, "Okay, if I can't play it, those guys on TV sound like they're having a heck of a good time talking about it. I wonder if I could do that."

So my dad and I researched great communication schools, broadcasting schools. And, of course, Syracuse was right at the top of the list. And so I geared my mind to going to Syracuse as a student. And when I find, I was rejected twice, by Newhouse. My grade point average wasn't good enough. I guess my SAT/ACT score wasn't good enough. But the second time I got into the Arts and Sciences School at Syracuse with an option to transfer to Newhouse. So I'm like, "I don't care. If I got to go compete, I will go compete against every other student that they say is better than me. I'm ready for it."

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And when I knew that I was going to Syracuse as a student, I was like, "I still love football." I was all conference and captain of the team in my high school team, I was a good player, but I was probably like a division three player, talent wise. So I said, "You know what? I want to walk on the football team there." I still had this left in my blood and I want to see if I can do it. So I won't make the story too long because I know we're tight on time, but I wrote Dick MacPherson, the old classic hall of fame coach, I wrote him a letter saying, "Coach here's who I am. Here's where I'm coming from. I would love to walk on the team. Just give me a shot." I didn't hear anything back from him.

So I wrote him another letter. This is in the summer of 1989. My graduation year from high school, trying to get a walk on invitation for the fall summer camp of 1989. So I wrote him another letter, nothing. Wrote him another letter, nothing. Convinced myself that maybe I had the wrong zip code. I'm sure I'm sending these letters... I'm sure if he got these letters, he would be responding to me. But he was probably just throwing them into a trash can. So I think I wrote six letters, seven letters maybe. I wish I would have made copies of them because this is before email, of course.

And the story goes, and I found this out way later, that coach Mac goes into one of the early, early team coaching meetings, which would have been like in the deep part of the summer, getting ready for summer camp, like, "Okay, here's all the freshmen that are coming in this year." And he took like six or seven letters and said, "We got this kid from Michigan who is wearing me out with these letters here," and assigned one of his coaches to contact me and say, "You can come out for a four day tryout." And so I got this letter. I was shaking when I got it. And I had a four day tryout in the summer camp going into the fall season of 1989. And I showed them just enough that they said, "You can stick around."

George DeLeone, real Syracuse fans will know that name, the long time offensive coordinator and assistant coach at Syracuse, George DeLeone pulled me aside on the fourth day of my tryout at lunchtime. I'll get emotional thinking about it because he said, "We love your hustle, and you could stay around here. If you do the right thing and you keep going in this direction, you can stay around here." And that's kind of how it was that I made the team, and it ended up being, a four day tryout turned into four years on the Syracuse football team, and I am forever grateful for the opportunity and the experiences and the lifelong friends that I made through playing football at Syracuse.

John Boccacino: And you got a perfect four and oh record in 'bowl games off of that year. Really the real life Syracuse Rudy, based on true story, not the exaggeration for Notre Dame's version out there.

Scott Hanson: It is, but I didn't have the glorified sack at the end of my career that Rudy did. I was not carried off the field. But I loved being a part of those Syracuse Orange teams. And like I said, junior year, we went 10 and two, won the Hall of Fame Bowl. It's now basically known as the Outback Bowl. Beat Ohio State in that

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game. And then 10 and two in my senior year and beat Colorado, which was rolling back then, colorado was one of the best programs in the country, to finish fifth in one pole, six in the other pole, in my senior year. It was a heck of a way to go out.

John Boccacino: Well, Scott, I know you got to get going out there. I really appreciate your time. Between you and Andrew Siciliano, Syracuse Orange alums dominates the NFL RedZone. It's so cool that we can say that we have claim to both you and Andrew here, and you've given us some great comments here on the podcast. Thank you for the time and best of luck. We'll be watching each and every Sunday.

Scott Hanson: Well, thank you, John. I'm glad you shouted out Andrew Siciliano, because a lot of people, they hear NFL RedZone and they watch the "Scott Hanson version" of it. Andrew was a classmate of mine. He's a colleague of mine at NFL Media. He does a fantastic job on the RedZone channel on DirecTV. So I'm glad you mentioned him. And it was good to be with you here today. Go Orange everybody. Have a great football season.

John Boccacino: Thanks for checking out the latest installment of the 'Cuse Conversations Podcast. My name is John Boccacino signing off for the 'Cuse Conversations Podcast.

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