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TRANSCRIPT LAW REFORM, ROAD AND COMMUNITY SAFETY COMMITTEE Inquiry into lowering the probationary driving age in Victoria to 17 Melbourne — 25 August 2016 Members Mr Geoff Howard — Chair Ms Fiona Patten Mr Bill Tilley — Deputy Chair Ms Natalie Suleyman Mr Martin Dixon Mr Murray Thompson Mr Khalil Eideh Staff Acting executive officer: Mr Andrew Homer Research officer: Mr John Aliferis Witnesses Mr Alan Fedda, executive director, customer experience, and Mr Stuart Johns, manager, regional network development, Public Transport Victoria. Necessary corrections to be notified to executive officer of committee 25 August 2016 Law Reform, Road and Community Safety Committee 120 The CHAIR — Alan, Stuart, from PTV, welcome to our parliamentary hearing looking at lowering the probationary driving age to 17. Obviously in regard to that issue, the reasons are limits on public transport in some areas, so we obviously welcome hearing from you in regard to that. You will be aware that we have Hansard recording everything that is being said, so you will get a transcript of our conversation within a couple of weeks to check that it is technically correct and then it will go on the public record after that. You would know the issues of parliamentary privilege that are offered to people speaking at parliamentary inquiries. I do not know whether that is relevant in this case at all, but that is afforded to you here. I think those are the key parts of the formalities. We welcome comments you would like to make in regard to improving accessibility of public transport across the state, and we look forward to having a bit of a conversation after that. Visual presentation. Mr FEDDA — Thank you, Chair, and thank you to the committee for having me and my colleague Stuart Johns here today. Whilst this inquiry is looking at lowering the probationary driving age in Victoria to 17, I am pleased to be able to take up the invitation and present to the committee some high-level information about public transport that hopefully might help the committee. I have prepared a short presentation, that if you are comfortable with I can take you through, and then we certainly will be happy to answer questions at the end that are relevant to your inquiry. The presentation will cover a variety of topics today. Hopefully you will find them useful. We will look at current public transport services, both in metropolitan Melbourne and in regional Victoria. We will look at some of the key initiatives which have improved public transport over the recent years, particularly for young people. We will look at some data on patronage for young people using public transport. We will look at the ticketing options for young people as well as some future planning programs, particularly to improve public transport in regional Victoria. So the next slide, slide 3, really just looks at a snapshot of services currently available in Victoria. You will be aware that Victoria is serviced by a mix of train, tram, bus and coach services, and we obviously transport millions of people every day. The statistics outlined on this page show the large operational footprint of public transport in this state. Metropolitan Melbourne is serviced by trains, trams and buses, which give customers a variety of choices for their journey and many multimodal journeys are made each day. In regional Victoria you will be aware that V/Line is the largest operator and offers more than 1700 services weekly. We have a large regional town bus network as well in addition to the V/Line network and it is run by a variety of operators. But you will see that they are just the large number of services that we operate each week. Slide 4: one of the improvements that has been made over the last year is obviously the introduction of the Night Network. Victoria is the only state in Australia that actually offers all-night public transport on weekends, and we are actually only one of two cities worldwide — I believe the other city is Berlin — that offer all-night public transport across three modes, which are trams, trains and buses. You will be aware that the Night Network commenced on 1 January 2016, and the Victorian government recently announced it will continue into the first half of 2017. There are 300 overnight train services during the Night Network, 250 tram services and around 500 bus and coach services around the weekend. So the Night Network, we believe, is delivering a convenient and affordable way to travel, particularly for young children as well, or for youth, late at night and on the weekends. For regional, the Night Network offers two coaches on Friday and Saturday evenings. They depart the city for the regional centres — so Geelong, Ballarat, Bendigo, Traralgon — and they leave at 2.00 a.m. There are two coaches that leave at that point. One is an express service and the other one is an all-stop service, depending on where passengers want to stop or get off the coach. Our research shows us that currently around 35 000 people are using the Night Network to get home every weekend. What we know is that 60 per cent of Night Network users are male, and obviously 40 per cent are female. The largest group, which is relevant to today’s committee, of users on the Night Network are actually aged between 18 and 24. It is just under 50 per cent. So the Night Network itself seems to be attracting youth who want alternative means of coming into the city and then also coming home on weekends. The feedback as well — — 25 August 2016 Law Reform, Road and Community Safety Committee 121 The CHAIR — Can I just ask on that, you said 18 to 24, so if people are under 18, are they in a group there, or is that just where you drew the line in terms of your categories? Mr FEDDA — Chair, I do not have that information on hand. I am happy certainly to provide that back, but what we know is that for that particular group that we used in the survey, we used 18 to 24, but I am sure there are users under 18 that we potentially have captured. The CHAIR — Well, yes, in relation to our inquiry, then it is 17-year-olds and that sort of thing that are of interest to us, too. If you can provide us with any of those sorts stats, yes. Mr FEDDA — We can certainly review that and provide it to the committee. So what we know as well is that, importantly, 21 per cent of passengers who are using the Night Network are actually using it not just to go out but they are actually using it to get to work. That is what our researchers currently tell us. Predominantly it is the hospitality industry or essential services, so nearly a fifth of passengers are using it to get to work. Slide 6 provides some information around ticketing options for young people. We are one of the cheapest cities in the world for daily travel, and there is a range of discounts for young people. Obviously it is to encourage them to use public transport. Customers between 4 and 16 can use a child myki, and that provides a 50 per cent discount of the full price for the daily fare. Then passengers who are between 17 and 18 who hold a Victorian concession entitlement are also entitled to 50 per cent off the full fare. Obviously I will not go into too much detail around primary and secondary school students, but they can obtain student passes. They are either yearly or half-yearly, and they include unlimited travel in zones 1 and 2. You can also get regional student passes as well, and they are significantly discounted. But the important thing here is to note that the cost of, for instance, a student pass in metropolitan Melbourne is $546 annually. It is unlimited travel across zones 1 and 2 throughout the entire year. Slide 7 gives a little bit more detail around the price, which makes it — — The CHAIR — Just in terms of that, for some people paying that much money at one time would be a lot. Can they pay that in instalments? Mr FEDDA — Not for the half-yearly or the yearly pass, but if they are using what we call myki money, which is travelling as you go, they will get 50 per cent off. Students or concession will get 50 per cent off the daily myki money fare, for instance. I guess slide 7 might show that a bit more. Slide 7 shows what the daily fare looks like, and that is the full fare. For instance, the daily full fare in zones 1 and 2 is $7.80. A child or a concession would pay 50 per cent of that, and that is for unlimited travel in zones 1 and 2 on all modes in zones 1 and 2. If you compare that, for instance, to Sydney, which is the Opal card, the daily maximum is $15 in Sydney for metropolitan travel. A weekly as well, I have demonstrated, the weekly myki full fare is $39; for someone with a concession it would be half that. It compares very favourably to the maximum price in Sydney. You will also be aware that one thing that will encourage children and youth to use public transport is the reduction in the price of zone 1 and 2 travel that occurred in January 2015.