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[Eighth Series, Vol. XLIV, Twelfth Session, 1988/1910 (Saka)J No. 15, Thursday, December 1, 1988/Agrahayana 10, (Saka)

COLUMNS

Oral Answers to Questions:

* Starred Questions Nos. 287 to 289, 291, 293, 294 and 298 1-40

Written Answers to Questions:

Starred Questions Nos. 290, 292, 295 to 297 and 299 to 306 40-58

Unstarred Questions Nos. 2793 to 2803, 2805 2807 to 2947, 2949 to 2995 and 2995-A 58-370

Papers Laid on the Table 373-387

Committee on the Welfare of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes 387

Reports of study Tour of Study Croups I and II

Calling Attention to Matter of Urgent Public Importance - 387-405

Reported pollution of river Brahmaputra due to a peculiar disease afflicting fish and vegetable plants in Assam -

Shri M. R. Saikia 387

Shri Bhajan Lai 388

Shri Bhadreswar Tanti 392

Shri Srikanta Datta Narasimharaja Wadiyar 393

Shri Dinesh Coswami 395

* The sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. (0 (ii)

COLUMNS

Business Advisory Committee - 405-408

Sixty-third Report -Adopted

Matters under Rule 377 - 408-415

(i) Need for a techno-economic survey of the hilly regions of Uttar Pradesh for their proper development

Shri Harish Rawat 408

(ii) Need to provide Central aid for the Village Health Guides in the State of Orissa

Shri Chintamani Jena 409

(iii) Need to provide passenger or shuttle trains in Cujarat-Sourashtra region

Shri Ranjit Singh Gaekwad 410

(iv) Need to ensure payment of minimum wages to agricultural labour -

Shri Satyendra Narayan Sinha 411

(v) Need to increase the amount of scholarship for Harijan/Adivasi students

Shri Nankuram Sodi 411

(vi) Need to give recognition to poet Vamana by issuing a postal stamp, opening a Faculty and publishing authoritative translations of his works

Shri E. Ayyapu Reddy 412

(vii) Need to adhere to the Three language Formula

Shri Syed Shahabuddin 4 1 3

(viii) Need for immediate financial and other assistance to the people of West Bengal affected by the recent cyclone

Shrimati Geeta Mukherjee 4 1 3

(ix) Need to declare Dr. Hari Singh Gaur University, Sagar as a Central University

Shri Nandlal Choudhary 4 1 4 COLUMNS

(x) Conversion of Bandel-Katwa section of Eastern Railway into double line and its electrification -

Shri Saifuddin Chowdhary 415

Banking, Public financial Institutions and Negotiable 415-453 Instruments Laws (Amendment) Bill - 454-492

Motion to consider -

Shri C. Madhav Reddy 415

Shri Vijay N. Patil 424

Shri Ram Singh Yadav 427

Shri Amal Datta 432

Shri Somnath Rath 437

Shri Sharad Dighe 439

Shri Syed Shahabuddin 442

Shri K. Ramamurthy 446

Shri B. Jeevarathinam 451

Shri Indrajit Gupta 454

Shri Girdhari Lai Vyas 460

Shri Girdhari Lal 465

Shri N. Tombi Singh 468

Shri Bhadreswar Tanti 471

Shri Het Ram 479

Shri Piyus Tiraky 484

Shri S. B. Chavan 487

Statement Re: Espionage Activities of two Officials of Pakistan Embassy - 453-454

Shri P. V. Narasimha Rao 453

Discussion under Rule 193 492-530 (iv)

COLUMNS

Dismal performance of Indian sportsmen in Seoul Olympic Games 492-530

Shri C. Janga Reddy

ACkQ Shri Ajay Mushran

Shri M. Raghuma Reddy ^06

Shri Digvijay Singh 509

Shri Saifuddin Chowdhary 512

Shri Brajamohan Mohanty 518

Shri Thampan Thomas 522

Shri Sharad Dighe 525

Shrimati Geeta Mukherjee 528 LOK SABHA DEBATES

1 2 LOK SABHA (b)The meeting of the Working Croup was attended by senior officials concerned with the literacy programme in Afghanistan, Thursday, December 1, 1988/Agrahayana Bangladesh, India, Indonesia, Iran, Nepal & 10, 1910 (Saka) Pakistan. In addition observers from UNICEF and World Bank also attended the meeting. The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock (c) to (e). The Working Group identified [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair) the broad issues and principles involved in drawing up a Plan of Action during the In­ ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ternational Literacy Year. The issues identi­ [English] fied included the close interdependence of the universalisation of primary education UNESCO Working Croup Meet in Delhi and eradication of illiteracy, the various fac­ + tors which contributed to the prevalence of *287. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: illiteracy, the need for better appreciation of SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: the problems of the disadvantaged sections of the society and the factors which will be Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE crucial for strengthening the literacy pro­ DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: grammes and making it successful. There­ after the specific areas of action were listed (a) whether a meeting of the UNESCO out which included drawing up a National Working Croup on International Literacy Policy, perspective plan of action, mobilisa­ Year was held in New Delhi recently; tion of resources, environment building, strengthening the academic and technical (b) if so, the names of the countries resource support for the programme, stress which participated; on involvement of NGOs and designing a suitable mechanism for monitoring and (c) whether a new strategy to promote evaluation. The mode of operation of these literacy was worked out; measures are to be elaborated at the na­ tional, regional & international levels. In (d) if so, the details thereof; and addition, a strategy for a Plan of Action for eradication of illiteracy (1990-2000) was (e) the measures suggested to solve the also suggested. The Working Croup also problems of illiteracy in developing coun­ recommended the Regional and Interna­ tries? tional cooperation through (i) Joint Exercise of Project Formulation (ii) Undertaking a THE MINISTER OF STATE* IN THE DE­ Regional Cooperative Literacy Project (iii) PARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND CUL­ Seeking Cooperation with International and TURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RE­ National Organisations concerned with lit­ SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. eracy etc. SHAHI): (a) to (e). A Statement is given below. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: Before putting my Supplementary, I must convey STATEMENT my hearty gratitude to you for admitting this Question on the observance day of the In­ Oral Answers 4 3 Oral Answers DECEMBER 1,1988

today and for taking it up as the first ques­ meeting to discuss the resources position. It was a meeting organised to have experi­ tion. ence of other countries so that a pro­ PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I am re­ gramme may be chalked out for action in sponsible for your Question ! I picked up the future. the ballot and your name came ! SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: As per the SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: He must thank situation stands today, by the end of 2000 you for not tampering with the ballot! A.D., the total illiterate people would be more than 55 per cent in India alone. In this connection I would like to know as to MR. SPEAKER: Could you ever expect itl what measures are being taken by our Gov­ ernment to improve the literacy position in SHRI CHINTAMANI J£NA: The recom­ our country, specially I would like to know mendations of the Working Croup are made about the action taken to prevent the drop­ in three major categories. What are the de­ outs and also the spread of Non-Formal Ed­ cisions taken by our Covemment for the ucation and Adult Education. In this con­ implementation of those recommendations? nection, I would like to know from the hon. What would be the financial implication on Minister one thing. Regarding adult literacy, implementing these recommendations? In our criterion is reading of seven words in the Statement, the hon. Minister has stated one minute and this has been opposed by that the Working Croup recommended many of our eminent educationists. There­ seeking Cooperation with International and fore, what is the thinking of our Govern­ National Organisations concerned with lit­ ment on this issue? eracy etc. Were the UNICEF and World Bank representatives present in that meet­ ing as observers? What would be the finan­ SHRI L. P. SHAHI: I may bring to the no­ cial and other aids sought from UNICEF afid tice of the House and particularly the also the World Bank? What was their reac­ Speaker that Adult Education Programme tion on that issue? I would like to have de­ and Non-Formal Education Programme had tails in this regard. been discussed in this House in separate questions earlier. If, however, your honour SHRI L. P. SHAHI: Sir, in the said Con­ permits me I will read out the details which ference, representatives of several countries will take sometime. It is a very long reply. like Afghanistan, Bangladesh, India, Indone­ In short, I , can say that the Jana Sakshan sia, Iran, Nepal & Pakistan participated. Nilayams which are supposed to come will The objectives of the Working Croup were include the drop-outs from the schools, the to examine the effectiveness of the various activities of the Adult Education Centres and approaches and strategies to eradicate illit­ also the Non-Formal Education part of it. In eracy especially along the girls and women short, this is supposed to be an expression and disadvantaged population etc.; to sug­ and mechanism for the development of vil­ gest special measures to eradicate illiteracy lage community as a whole. Through these by the year 2000 A D to be initiated in 1990, three branches of education - Non-Formal under the International Literacy Year. It also Education, Adult Education etc. - the drop­ aimed at development of a common outline outs will be treated. So far as strengthening for the organisations of International Liter­ technical base is concerned, already 10T acy Year and to suggest how the interna­ District Institution of Educational Training tional organisations could provide help to and Technology have been started out pf the country's individual and collective ef­ 440 districts in the country. And the District forts to eradicate illiteracy. It will appear Resource Centre connected with the adult that the discussions were directed more education is a part of that DIET. In this way, towards development of technical aspects we are proceeding in a manner so that we on human literacy. It was not a meeting of complete it in the minimum period of time India's aid club. Even though the represen­ and we are able to deliver some result tatives of UNICEF were there, it was not a which is a tangible one before the society. 5 Oral Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(£4/C4) Oral Answers 6

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: I would like to answer about the organisations which re­ know whether it is a feet that voluntary ceive foreign aid. There are quite a few. agencies have been assigned a dominant role in liquidating mass illiteracy. If so, SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER: May I just whether the Covemment is aware of the bring to the notice of the Hon. House that risks involved in this procedure. May I, for there had been cases of the voluntary or­ instance, refer to a few risks, namely, the ganisations which are bogus in character. bogus character of many voluntary agencies We have come across such organisations and doubtful and dubious nature of many also and I don't rule out that. In fact, in organisations which receive foreign aid? some cases, where we have recognised Having regard to this, would the Govern­ them, given them money, then it was found ment consider assigning the task to such lo­ that the money was never used for the pur­ cal bodies as Gram Panchayats? pose. We have in some cases taken action (Interruptions) to claim back this nioney. In some cases, we have stopped the aid. There is quite a good list of it. I would agree with the Hon. MR. SPEAKER: What will you do of Member and I will go into it if there are any these teaching shops? It is a curse. You voluntary organisations which get foreign have to do something about that. You are aid as well as and when this type of com­ more intelligent than me and Sanskrit can plaints come to our notice, we take action. be taken care of. But I shall see that I specially appoint a squad to go into this issue for the purpose THE MINISTER OF HUMAN RESOURCE of finding out if this type of voluntary agen­ DEVELOPMENT (SHRI P. SHIV SHANKAR): cies...... (Interruptions) Whenever we get I will separately discuss this. complaints, we investigate. But I am agreeing with the House that I would put a MR. SPEAKER: All our ancestral lan­ squad for this purpose who could go. into guages should be there. the working of each and every organisation of this type whether they are having any SHRI L. P. SHAHI: Yes, it is a fact that foreign aid. voluntary agencies have been assigned a specific role for the eradication of illiteracy One suggestion which the Hon. Member in the country. We have several experi­ has made is that why not we entrust this job ences in this matter and we are not in a po­ of literacy to the Gram Panchayat. This is a sition just now to say that we should have a matter which we might consider. I cannot regular school for adults because adults assure at this stage; but we will go into the come to these centres only after finishing pros and cons of this issue. their day's job. That is why, we have thought of approaching this specially PROF. N. G. RANGA: Is it not a fact that through voluntary agencies. And in this the All India Adult Education has been doing House as well as outside, great stress has some good work especially in Madhya been laid on development of voluntary Pradesh and several other States also? agencies. Have the Government considered the ad­ visability of utilising their services by finan­ SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Not in this cial aid and also supplying to them educa­ House. tional literature and the rest?

SHRI L. P. SHAHI: This is one thing. SHRI P.SHIV SHANKER: We have been doing. I would, however, with your permission say;

Jahir hai dil ke pass rahe paswane akal, [Translation] lekin kabhi-kabhi ise tanha bhe choriye. SHRIMATI USHA CHOUDHARI: Mr. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: I wanted him to Speaker, Sir, of course, adult education is a 7 Oral Answers DECEMBER 1, 1988 Oral Answers 8 serious problem, I would like to ask about (SHRI JACDISH TYTLER): (a) to (d). Delhi the teachers of 'Angan bari' where children ' Administration had made it clear to the All of tribals and poor rural people are im­ India Bread Manufacturers Association that parted education. They are paid a very they should not expect to continue to get meagre amount ranging from Rs. 75 to Rs. special wheat allocation in view of the more 150 a month only as their remuneration. Is than commensurate price increase in Bread it possible for a woman teacher to teach in allowed in October, 1988. In view of the 'Angan bari' with such a meagre amount of representation made by the Association, the money, particularly when their place of duty question of allotting wheat to the bread is situated in hilly and rural areas? Besides, units is under consideration of the Adminis­ jVvould also like to know whether it is pos­ tration. The Central Government has been, sible to implement child education scheme however, making a monthly allotment of with an amount of Rs. 1000 made available 7,500 tonnes of wheat to the Delhi Adminis­ by the Social Welfare Board for this purpose tration since November, 1987 for the pur­ or is it run only for namesake? Anganbari pose. teachers all over the country are raising de­ mand to bring some improvement in child The price charged by the Food Corpora­ education. (Interruptions) tion of India for this wheat is less than the price at which it has been offering wheat to MR. SPEAKER: This question has been the roller flour mills throughout the country. replied umpteen times. The bread manufacturers should not, therefore, have any cause for grievance. [English] SHRI P. M. SAYEED: The Bread Manufac­ PROF. N.C. RANCA: What is the answer turers' Association in Delhi made a repre­ that the Government has given? Are they sentation to the Government some time prepared to consider this very useful sug­ back. In view of that, the Central Govern­ gestion? ment's allocation to Delhi has also been in­ creased as per the reply given by the Hon. SHRI L P. SHAHI: We have replied to Minister. Now the monthly allotment is this question umpteen times. 7500 tonnes.

Protest against Maida Price Hike There have been complaints in the newspapers regarding the shortage of bread *288. SHRI P. M. SAYEED: Will the in the capital. Also the manufacturers have Minister of FOOD PROCESSING INDUS­ complained that on account of this recent TRIES be pleased to state: hike in prices, they have incurred huge loss. They were expecting to reach the break­ (a) whether the All India Bread Manufac­ even point. But now on account of this turers Association, Delhi has protested hike, they are not in a position to go ac­ against maida price hike resulting in loss to cording to their target. Therefore, the the manufacturers; shortage is there as per the reports. We don't know, the Hon. Minister will be in a (b) whether restoration of wheat alloca­ position to tell us whether it is a fact that tion to the bread manufacturing units in the shortage is there in the capital. I want Delhi on preferential basis has been de­ to know why is it that they wanted to get a manded; special treatment? Is it not in comparison with the price that exists in other States? (c) the other demands put forth by the Are they at a less advantageous position? association; and SHRI JACDISH TYTLER: Sir, it is true (d) the reaction of Government thereto? there is shortage of bread in Delhi. The daily demand of breads in Delhi is 7 lakh THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN­ standard loaves of 400 gm each whereas ISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES approximately 6 lakh loaves are being 9 Oral Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SA/C4) Oral Answers 10 made. I would like to inform the members (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) Proposals that the cost of bread like the cost of milk from 103 companies were cleared for deep and transport is the cheapest in Delhi as sea fishing ventures in 1987. compared to the whole country. There is sometimes shortage of bread because quite (b) Although a number of these are at a number of loaves of bread are smuggled various stages of implementation, none of out of Delhi to Ghaziabad and Faridabad. them has been fully implemented leading to We were selling at Rs. 1.80 paisa a 400 gm introduction of deep sea fishing vessels. loaf which is now being sold at Rs. 2 per loaf. Even with this price increase the man­ (c) and (d). No., Sir. During VII Plan pe­ ufacturers are still selling it below the cost. riod, it is proposed to increase the number of deep sea fishing vessels from existing 153 SHRI P. M. SAYEED: What about price to 500 through import, indigenous construc­ comparison? tion and chartering of foreign fishing ves­ sels. SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER: Delhi is the cheapest in the whole country. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU: The Union Government have cleared licences for set­ SHRI P. M. SAYEED: In other countries ting up of deep sea fishing ventures under there are very many varieties of bread and the scheme for 100 per cent export oriented even vitaminised breads are manufactured. units. I would like to know whether Gov­ In our country it is totally absent. I do not ernment has properly assessed the perfor­ know the reason why. I would like to know mance of deep sea fishing ventures already if Government will specially allocate wheat cleared and what is their performance and for those who want to undertake such vita­ to what extent foreign exchange is expected minised variety of breads in the country. from these units at present?

SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER: I think this SHRI JACDISH TYTLER: At the fag end of question should go to Shri Bhajan Lai Ji, if 1987 most of these proposals were cleared. he likes to give extra wheat. As I said in part (b) of the answer these are at various stages of implementation and Approval to Proposals for Deep Sea none of them is yet fully implemented. Fishing Ventures There are reasons why they could not do it. There were lot of difficulties these people + found due to stiff financing terms imposed *289. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU: by shipping credit and investment company SHRI S.B. SIDNAL: of India and then also decline in shrimp catch during the last two years and also the Will the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING absence of an established market.' These INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: are some of the reasons which did not en­ courage these people to go in for this. (a) the number of proposals for deep-sea fishing ventures cleared last year; SHRI C.S. BASAVARAJU: How many ap­ plications are pending at present for carry­ (b) the number of proposals out of them ing out this type of venture and out of this which have been fully implemented; how many applications are pending from Karnataka. If so, why is there delay in clear­ (c) whether Government have decided ance of these applications? to stop any further approval to proposals for deep-sea fishing ventures; and SHRI JACDISH TYTLER: I think, I have given an answer. (d) if so, the reasons therefor? SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU: How many ap­ THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN­ plications are pending from Karnataka, es­ ISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES pecially from Mangalore and Karwar areas? Oral Answers 12 11 Oral Answers DECEMBER 1, 1988

SHRI JACDISH TYTLER: Sir, I don't have (a) whether Government's attention has the figures Statewise. But I do have figures been drawn to the news-item "Mastron Ke of the total number of joint ventures. Dheron Pad Khali Hafin Poorvi Dili Ke Sarkari Schoolon Mein appearing in the SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU: Is there any re­ Jansatta of 6 November, 1988; striction for clearing the schemes from Mangalore and Karwar? (b) if so, the total number of vacant posts of teachers in Government schools in Delhi SHRI JACDISH TYTLER: No, Sir. There and since when; is no restriction. We are clearing applica­ tions on their merits. (c) the reasons for not filling these posts; and PROF. MAD HU DANDAVATE: This is a question which concerns almost all the (d) the time by which these posts are coastal areas of the country. Hon. Minister likely to be filled up? has said that proposals from 103 companies were cleared for deep-sea fishing ventures THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ in 1987. Although a number of these are at PARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CUL­ various stages of implementation, none of TURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RE­ them has been fully implemented leading to SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. introduction of deep-sea fishing vessels. SHAHI): (a) to (d). Delhi Administration has informed that out of the sanctioned of 5096 Since you have admitted that not a single teaching posts in Covemment Schools in proposal has been effectively implemented, East Delhi 672 are vacant. Out of these, I would like to know whether the Minister 378 teaching posts are vacant due to Court is aware of the fact that if the proposals for cases. The Delhi Administration has initi­ deep-sea fishing are not implemented, in ated action for recruitment for the vacancies that case, some of the mechanised ships * which are not sub-judice. which resort to mechanised fishing - try to come to the coastal areas nearer the shore. [Translation] As a result of that, the non-mechanised fishing is always affected. Therefore, the SHRIMATI PRABHAWATI CUPTA: Mr. complaint of the non-mechanised fishers is Speaker, Sir, in his reply the hon. Minister that there is a danger of encroachment on has said that out of the sanctioned strength their activity and on their area. That has to of 5096 teaching posts in Government be checked. That is not being done. schools in East Delhi 672 posts are vacant Therefore, in view of this, will you give ur­ and out of these, 378 teaching posts are va­ gency to deep-sea fishing so that those who cant due to court cases. Is the hon. Minis­ are actually resorting to non-mechanifed ter aware of the fact that the Principals of fishing near the sea-shore, can be pro­ schools, where the posts are vacant, have tected? This is happening in Kerala, Coa appointed teachers on their own and an and West Coast of Maharashtra. additional amount ranging from Rs. 40 to 45 is being charged per mensum by them from SHRI JACDISH TYTLER: I agree with him each child. This amount is being charged and we are doing everything possible within even from girl students, though they should our means to see that we implement what be imparted education free of cost. I would he has said. like to know from the hon. Minister as to how the education policy is to be imple­ Vacant Posts of Teachers in Delhi Schools mented properly in this way and what steps + the Government is proposed to take in this ♦291. SHRIMATI PRABHAWATI CUPTA: regard. SHRI HAFIZ MOHD. SIDDIQ: SHRI L. P. SHAHI: In so far as charging Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE money from the students is concerned, this DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: has come to my notice just now through 13 Oral Answers ACRAHAYANA 10,1910(5M4) OralAnswers 14

you. I will get it investigated and strict ac­ give me a fresh notice. I shall allow it. This tion would be taken. In so far as filling question is not related to the main question. those 378 posts which are lying vacant due to court cases is concerned, two cases have been pending, one in the Supreme Court SHRI RAMSWAROOP RAM: Mr. and the other in the Administrative Tribunal. Speaker, Sir, this question is related to it... In both the cases, Department is making all out efforts to get the matter cleared by the courts and posts will be filled up as soon as MR. SPEAKER: No, it is not related. I a final decision is given by the courts. have already given my ruling. That's all.

SHRIMATI PRABHAWATI CUPTA: Mr. Speaker, Sir, in so far as vacancies are con­ cerned, similar situation is prevailing almost [English] all States in the country, as a result of which the education of children is adversely af­ SHRI SRIBALLAV PANICRAHI: Sir, this fected. Will the hon. Minister issue instruc­ question relates to the vacancy position in tions to the State Governments to fill-up the Covemment schools in Delhi. While the vacancies soon so that new education pol­ Minister has covered only the schools run icy is implemented properly? by the Delhi Administration, there is an­ other set of schools run by the Government SHRI L. P. SHAHI: Mr. Speaker, Sir, of India themselves, that is the Kendriya there were 6 States which were lagging be­ Vidyalayas. I would like to know whether hind in the field of primary education where there are vacancies in these schools run by only one post of teacher existed in majority the Government of India - and it is alleged of primary schools. Instructions have been that there are vacancies. If so, how many issued to create second post and fill up vacancies are there and what steps are the them, preferably with lady teachers, to the Government taking to fill up all the vacan­ extent possible. cies in these schools?

SHRI RAMSWAROOP RAM: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to know from the SHRI L. P. SHAHI: Though the ambit of hon. Minister through you the number of the question does not include this, how­ posts reserved for SC/ST. Out of the total ever, if you permit, Sir, I can state that so far appointments made in the schools of Delhi, as the Kendriya Vidyalayas are concerned, whether all reserved posts have been filled up or is there any back-log? If there is any there are three types of teachers; there are PRT, primary teachers, TGT, trained gradu­ backlogs whether the Government is pro­ ate teachers and PGT, post-graduate teach­ posed to formulate a clear cut policy to fill ers. So far as PRT and TGT are concerned, these posts and clear the backlog from the there is hardly any vacancies. But as re­ candidates belonging to reserved category. gards PGT, there was a resolution, or a pol­ icy laid down, that when we appointed a SHRI L. P. SHAHI: Mr. Speaker, Sir, is PGT, he should be transferred to another this question related to the main question? language region or administrative region. The posts have been filled up in the sense MR. SPEAKER: This question is not re­ that they have been promoted and posted lated to the main question. The hon. Mem­ to various regions, but all of them have not ber has aimlessly hit a sixer. joined in the other language region or the administrative region. Some of them have SHRI RAMSWAROOP RAM: Mr. indicated that they are ready to forego their Speaker, Sir, you may issue necessary in­ chances of promotion. Therefore, there are structions in this regard. some vacancies and we are going to con­ sider how we should fill them. But their MR. SPEAKER: Shri Ram Swaroop Ram Ji, number is nominal. OralAnswers 16 15 Ora! Answers DECEMBER 1,1988

{TranslationJ has just now stated that no changes have been made in the reservation policy. Prior Selection Grade to SC/ST Teachers of to January 1986, the reservation policy in Delhi Administration respect of selection grade was being im­ plemented fully, but benefit of reservation is *293. SHRI R.P. SUMAN: Will the Min­ not being given to them after implementa­ ister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOP­ tion of new senior scale w.e.f. 1.1.86. I can MENT be pleased to state: say it on the basis of specific information gathered by me. In addition to it, reserva­ (a) whether teachers belonging to tion policy is not being adhered to with re­ Scheduled Castes/ Scheduled Tribes under gard to selection grade in new scales to Delhi Administration used to get selection be given to 20% of the teachers. I would grade before January, 1986 according to like to know from the hon. Minister as to reservation policy; why the benefits of reservation is not being provided to the teachers of reserve cate­ (b) if so, the details thereof; gories? Will hon. Minister look into the matter and take action against the persons (c) whether the said procedure is being responsible for violating the reservation followed under the new pay scales given to policy which has not so far been changed, teachers w.e.f. 12 August, 1987; as stated by the hon. Minister.

(d) if not, the reasons therefor; SHRI L. P. SHAHI: Sir, as I said that the provision of 15 percent and 7 1/2 percent (e) whether there is a provision in the are there in both the selection grades, new pay scales to grant selection grade to where grades change after 12 years and 24 20 percent of teachers and if so, whether years. If any specific case of violation of this rule is applicable to SC/ST teachers and reservation policy is brought to my notice, I If not, the reasons therefor; and will get it enquired and action would be taken. In old pay-scale, promotion in grade (f) the future policy of Government in re­ was given only once whereas in the new spect of selection grade and the reasons for pay-scales, promotions are given twice, first not following the Reservation Policy? after 12 years of service and second 24 years of service. For the teachers belonging THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ to general category, they may get the grade PARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND CUL­ promotion in 18 or 19 years instead of 12 TURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RE­ years, but in the case of teachers belonging SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. to reserved categories, they are promoted SHAHI): (a) to (f). In the pre-revised pay- immediately after completing 12 years of scales for school teachers applicable upto service. If the hon. Member bring*any spe­ 31.12.85 in Delhi, 15% and 7 1/2% of selec­ cific case, in which this policy has been vio­ tion grade posts were reserved for teachers lated, in my notice, I will surely get it en­ belonging to Scheduled Castes and Sched­ quired. uled Tribes categories respectively. With effect from 1.1.1986, the Government have SHRI R. P. SUMAN: The hon. Minister sanctioned new pay-scales for teachers un­ has not replied to the last part of my ques­ der which the number of posts in selection tion in which I asked about the future policy scale is 20% of the posts in the senior scale of the Government in respect of selection for each category. The provision for reser­ grade. vation in selection scale for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes remains un­ MR. SPEAKER: He has replied. changed.

SHRI L. P. SHAHI: If this part is related SHRI R. P. SUMAN: Mr. Speaker, Sir, in to the schools of Delhi Administration, I can his reply to my question, the hon. Minister say that no decision has yet been taken ir. 17 Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 10, 191 0(SAKA) Oral Answers 18 respect of 20 per cent posts of selection (a) whether Government had constituted grade, both for general as well as reserved central teams to take stock of the loss categories in the schools run by Delhi Ad­ caused to crops and property due to recent ministration and we have asked them to floods in the country; take early decision on the issue. Only then it can be known as to whether the teachers (b) if so, the composition of the teams; belonging to reserved categories have got the selection grade or not. (c) whether all the teams have submitted SHRI RAM PYARE PAN IKA: Mr. Speaker, their reports to Government; and Sir, although this question is related to Delhi, I would like to submit that the Home (d) if not, the reasons for the delay? Ministry does issue guidelines from time to time with regard to reservation policy, not only to the Education Department, but also THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ to the Irrigation Department and others. PARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND CO­ But due to the non-implementation of the OPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRI­ Government's policy regarding the sched­ CULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) to uled castes and scheduled tribes in the edu­ (cl). A Statement is given below. cation department, the decision is shelved at every level. The hon. Minister is a bene­ factor of weaker section, so I would like to know whether any time bound programme STATEMENT will be made regarding implementation of reservation policy in education department to clear the backlog at all the levels. (a) Yes, Sir. Central Teams have been constituted in respect of all the 17 States SHRI L. P. SHAHI: If the hon. Member which have submitted detailed memoranda have any information regarding the non-im­ so far seeking Central assistance in the plementation of the policy, then he may wake of floods during the monsoon of 1988. bring it to my notice. I will look into it. If necessary', I will have discussion with him. (b) The details of the composition of the Central Teams are given in the Annexure [English] below.

Composition of Central Teams for Flood Relief (c) All the 16 Central Teams which have completed their visits of the flood affected + States have submitted their report. One *294 SHRI C. MADHAV REDDY: Team is due to visit the flood affected State SHRI M. RACHUMA REDDY: shortly.

Will the Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to state: (d) Does not arise. 19 Oral Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Oral Answers

Annexure

Names of the Members of Central Teams which visited Flood affected States in 1988

S. No. State Members Ministry/ Name & Designation Department 1

1. ANDHRA PRADESH 1. Dr. D.N. Prasad, Planning Adviser (Leader) Commission.

2. Shri A.N. Singh, Department of Joint Commissioner Agri. & Coopn.

3. Shri B. Pyda Raju, M/O Water Joint Commissioner Resources.

4. Shri J. Sinha, Department of Deputy Director Expenditure.

5. Shri A.K. Lai, M/O Urban Assistant Director Development.

6. Shri S. Arjunarao, M/O Surface Tpt., Supdt. Engineer Hyderabad.

7. Dr. A. Datta, M/O Health & F.W. Regional Director Hyderabad.

2. ASSAM 1 Shri M.R. Kolhatkar, Planning Adviser (Leader) Commission.

2. Shri K. Keshavayya, M/O Surface Tpt., Chief Engineer Guwahati.

3.Shri D.N. Jha, Central Water Supdt. Engineer Commission, Guwahati.

4. Dr. B.N. Barkatky, M/O Health & F.W., Regional Director Shillong.

5. Dr. H.C. Gautam, Department of Director (Soyabeen) Agri. & Coopn.

6. Shri V. Swaminathan, Department of Joint Director Expenditure.

7. Shri R.J. Bakhru, M/O Urban Deve­ Chief Engineer (Buildings) lopment, Calcutta. 3. ARUNACHAL 1* Shri A.M. Cokhle, Department of PRADESH Joint Secretary (Leader) Rural Development. 21 OralAnswers ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910C&UCA) OralAnswers 22

2. Shri D.N. Jha, Central Water Supdt. Engineer Commission, Guwahati.

3, Dr. B.N. Barkatky, M/O Health & F.W., Regional Director Shillong.

4. Shri K. Keshavayya, M /O Surface Tpt. Chief Engineer Guwahati.

4. GUJARAT 1. Dr. B.C. Sharma, Department of Joint Secretary (Leader) Agri. & Coopn.

2. Shri Gajendra Haldea, Department of Director Expenditure.

3. Shri C.D. Khoche, M/O Water Resour­ Supdt. Engineer ces, Nagpur.

4. Dr. H.C. Dutta, M/O Health, Regional Director Ahmedabad.

5. 'Shri C.R. Mehta, M /O Surface Tpt., Superintending Engineer Gujarat.

6. Shri P.N. Deb, Planning Deputy Adviser (Agri.) Commission.

7. Shri S. Sarkar, M /O Urban Assistant Adviser (PHE) Development

5. HARYANA 1. fehri S. Parthasarthy, Department of Joint Secretary (Leader) Agri. & Coopn.

2. Shri C. Subba Rao, Central Water Director (Flood Control) Commission.

3. Shri S.K. Singh, Planning Consultant (Agri.) Commission.

4. Shri Ajit Singh, M /O Surface Supdt. Engineer Transport.

5. Shri V. Swaminathan, Department of Joint Director Expenditure.

6. Dr. Gurcharan Singh, M/O Health & F.W, Regional Director Chandigarh.

7. Shri I.R. Shukla, M /O Urban Deputy Adviser Development. 23 Oral Answers DECEMBER 1, 1988 Oral Answers 24

6. HIMACHAL 1. Shri K.M. Lal M/O Home Affairs. PRADESH Financial Adviser (Leader)

2. Shri Surinder Singh, Planning Senior Research Officer Commission.

3. Shri Muhar Singh, Ministry of Urban Deputy Director, NBO Development.

4. Shri C. Babu Rajeev, Department of Director Expenditure.

5. Shri A.P.S. Sethi, M/O Surface Tpt., Executive Engineer Chandigarh.

6. Shri M.R. Verma, Central Water Deputy Director Commission.

7. Dr. V.M. Bedi, M/O Health & F.W., Regional Director Simla.

7. JAMMU & 1. Shri L.R.K. Prasad, Department of KASHMIR Joint Secretary (Leader) Agri. & Coopn. (I TEAM) 2. Shri C. Haldea, Department of Director Expenditure.

3. Shri C. Subba Rao Central Water Director Commission.

4. Shri Ajit Singh, M/O Surface Tpt., Supdt. Engineer Chandigarh

5. Dr. J.P Gupta, M/O Health & F.W. Regional Director Srinagar.

6. Shri B.B. Uppal, M/O Urban Assistant Adviser (PHE) Development.

JAMMU & 1. Shri L.R.K. Prasad, Department of KASHMIR Joint Secretary (Leader) Agri. & Coopn. (II TEAM) 2. Shri M.L. Bavveja, Central Water Director Commission.

3. Dr. J.P. Gupta, Central Water Regional Director Commission.

4. Shri B.B. Uppal, Ministry of Assistant Adviser (PHE) Urban Development. 25 Oral Answers ACRAHAYANA 10,191 0(SAKA) Oral Answers 26

5. Shri Mahendra Singh, Department of Assistant Director Expenditure.

6. Shri Muhar Singh, Ministry of Urban Deputy Director, NBO Development.

7. Shri A.P.S. Sethi, M/O Surface Tpt., Executive Engineer Chandigarh.

8. KARNATAKA 1. Shri R.C.A. Jain, Department of Joint Secretary (Leader) Agri. & Coopn.

2. Shri A.C. Garg, Planning Joint Adviser Commission.

3. Shri Mahendra Singh, Department of Assistant Director Expenditure.

4. Smt. V. Lakshmimani, Central Water Supdt. Engineer Commission, Hyderabad.

5. Dr. (Mrs.) K. Shama Kapur, M/O Health & Regional Director Family Welfare.

6..5hri S.V.R. Parangusan, M/O Surface Tpt., Supdt. Engineer Bangalore.

7. Shri K.T.V. Achar, M/O Urban Develop­ Regional Chief, HUDCO ment, Bangalore.

9. KERALA 1 Shri M.D. Asthana, Department of Joint Secretary (Leader) Rural Development.

2. Shri Brij Bhushan, Planning Commission. Deputy Adviser (Agri.)

3. Shri S.C. Meeran, M /O Surface Tpt. Supdt. Engineer Trivandrum.

4. Dr. (Mrs.) T.P. Jogadamma, M/O Health &F.W. Regional Director

5. Shri S.K. Bhatnagar, M /O Finance. Assistant Director

6. Shri M.L. Baweja, Central Water Director Commission.

7. Shri S.M.H. Rizvi, Department of Joint Commissioner Agri. & Coopn. OralAnswers 28 27 Oral Answers DECEMBER 1,1988

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8. jShri J. Sengupta, Ministry of Joint Director, NBO Urban Development.

10. MAHARASHTRA 1. Dr. B.C. Sarma, Deptt. of Agri. & Joint Secretary (Leader) Cooperation.

2. Shri J. Sin ha, Deptt. of Expenditure. Deputy Director (PF)

3. Shri M.K. Mahrotri, Ministry of Surface Suptd. Engineer. Transport.

4. Shri C.D. Khoche, C.W.C., Ministry of Superintending Water Resources. Engineer.

5. Dr. C.C. Balchandani, Ministry of Health & Senior Medical Officer. Family Welfare.

6.Shri Shashi Kant, N.B.D, Ministry of Deputy director. Urban Development.

11. PUNJAB 1. Shri S. Parthasarthy, Deptt. of Agri. & (FIRST TEAM) Joint Secretary (Leader) Cooperation.

2. Shri C. Subba Rao, C.W.C., Ministry of Director. Water Resources.

3. Shri S.K. Singh, Planning Commission. Consultant (Agri.).

4. Shri Ajit Singh, M/O Surface Transport, Supdt. Engineer. Chandigarh.

5. Shri V. Swaminathan, Ministry of Finance, Joint Director. Deptt. of Expenditure.

6. Dr. Gurcharan Singh, M/O Health & F.W. Regional Director (Health) Chandigarh.

7. Shri R. Shukla, M/O Urban Develop­ Deputy Adviser. ment. PUNJAB 1. Shri S. Parthasarthy, Deptt. of Agri. & (SECOND TEAM) Joint Secretary. (Leader) Cooperation.

2. Shri C. Subba Rao, C.W.C., Ministry of Director. Water Resources.

3. Shri V. Swaminathan, M/O Finance, Deptt. Joint Director. of Expenditure. 29 Oral Answers ACRAHAYANA 10,1910(SAM) Oral Answers 30

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4r Dr. Gurcharan Singh, Ministry of Health Regional Director (Health) & Family Welfare.

5. Shri Ajit Singh, M /O Surface Suptcl. Engineer. Transport. 0 6. Shri S.K. Singh, Planning Commission. Consultant.

7 .'Shri S. Sarkar, Ministry of Urban Assistant Adviser (PHE). Development.

8. Shri A. K. Lal, N.B.O., Ministry of Assistant Director. Urban Development.

9. Shri A. Shekhar, M /O Water Deputy Secretary. Resources

10. Shri M.T. Gurnani, C.W.C. Director.

11. Shri D.L. Gulati, Central Electricity Director. Authority.

12. Shri I.S. Anand, Rural Electrifi­ Joint Chief. cation Corporation.

12. RAJASTHAN 1. Shri M. Hegde, C.W.C. Chief Engineer. (Northern Zone)

2. Dr. H.C. Gautam, Deptt. of Agri, & Director. Cooperation.

13. SIKKIM 1. Shri Yogenclra Narain, M /O Surface Joint Secretary. (Leader) Transport.

2. Dr. B.S. Rao, Deptt. of Agri. & Joint Commissioner. Cooperation.

3. Shri C. Babu Rajeev, Ministry of Director. Finance.

4. Smt. N.K. Jaitle, Planning Commission. Senior Research Officer.

5.Dr. S.N. Sinha, M /O Health & F.W. Regional Director. Patna.

6. Shri K.S. Srinivasan, N.B.O., Ministry of Director Incharge. Urban Development. 31 Oral Answers DECEMBER 1, 1988 Oral Answers 32

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14. UTTAR PRADESH 1. Shri A.K. Saikia, Planning Adviser. (Leader) Commission.

2. Shri J. Sinha, M/O Finance, Deptt. Deputy Director. of Expenditure.

3. Shri Sunil Berry, fa.B.O., Ministry Editor. of Urban Development.

4. Shri T.C. Sood, M/O Surface Suptd. Engineer. Transport, Lucknow.

5.Dr. K.N. Srivastava, M/O Health & Regional Director. F.W., Lucknow.

6. Dr. R.N. Bhargava, Directorate of Director. Pulses Develop­ ment, Lucknow.

7. Shri H.V. Kumar, Ganga Flood Director. Control Commi­ ssion, Patna.

15. WEST BENGAL 1. Smt. Sarla Copalan, Department of joint Secretary. (Leader) Rural Develop­ ment.

2. Shri A.V. Rao, M/O Water Director. (Flood Control) Resources.

3. Shri C.R. Das, M/O Surface Supdt. Engineer. Transport, Calcutta.

4. Shri J. Sinha, Ministry of Deputy Director. Finance.

5. Shri Rajpal, Planning Research Officer. Commission.

6. Dr. S.N. Dutta M/O Health & Director. F.W.

7. Shri A.K. Lai, Ministry of Assistant Director. Urban Develop­ ment. 16. MIZORAM 1. Shri M.R. Kachhwaha, M/O Surface Supdt. Engineer. Transport, Guwahati. 33 Oral Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SMA) OralAnswers 34

17. TRIPURA 1. Shri Y.P. Bali, Department of Joint Commissioner. Agri. & Coopn.

2. Shri K Keshaviah, M /O Surface Tpt., Chief Engineer. Guwahati.

SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI: The state­ SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV: So far as the ment says that out of 17 teams which had present norms are concerned, we are fol­ been constituted, 16 teams had visited the lowing the recommendations of the Eighth States and submitted the reports. I would Finance Commission and the margin money like to, know which is that 17th unfortunate that was indicated by the Eighth Finance State wheie,the17th team has not visited so Commission that is being followed this year. far, I would also like to know whether the Now, the recommendation that has been reports have been submitted by the teams received from the 9th Finance Commission to the Cabinet Sub-committee. What are through its interim report shall be taken the decisions that had been taken by the care of in the next Budget year. Cabinet Sub-Committee and what is the to­ tal expenditure incurred so far which has SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: Sir, I want to gone to meet the relief expenditure? ask a question which is closely related to this question. You know yesterday, there SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV: The State was a severe storm and flood in West Ben­ which has not been visited is Amnachal gal and 80 people have already died and se­ Pradesh because the State Government de­ vere damage had been caused due to cy­ sired that the team should visit after Diwali. clones and crops have been also totally Now, 7th December has been fixed in con­ damaged in some parts of the State. The sultation with the State Government and State Government have already requested the team will go there. So far as reports re­ the Central Government to release Rs. 25 ceived from the teams are concerned the crores for relief and rescue operations. I decisions have been taken and assistance would like to know from the hon. Minister has been approved after the report was whether the Government have received any considered by th

SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI: The funding of flood relief is being done as per the MR, SPEAKER: Do you think that it is scheme recommended by the Eighth Fi­ closely related to this question? nance Commission. This recommendation will become inoperative by the end of this SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: Yes, it is year. In the meantime, the 9th Finance closely related. The hon. Minister Shri Commission has made certain interim rec­ Bhajan Lai would like to say something on ommendations and one of the recommen­ this. dations was that the margin money should be enhanced. I would like to know whether SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: You the Government has accepted this recom­ add your voice to it I mendation and whether the margin money would be enhanced from the next year on­ SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV: A very unfor­ wards? tunate incident has taken place, no doubt. 35 Oral Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Oral Answers 36

We are very much concerned about it. I am months in a year in the rural area and they going to Calcutta on 5th evening; I will be are not getting even that work during floods there on 6th and will try to meet State Cov­ and damage. The Chief Minister of Andhra emment officials. We have not yet received Pradesh invariably takes shelter that the any memorandum, any request from the Government of India is not coming to the West Bengal Covemment so far. rescue. What assistance are you giving to the State Government of Andhra Pradesh MR. SPEAKER: How could they give and in what manner? How would you en­ within one day? sure that the State Government has spent the money initially particularly for damaged SHRI R. L. BHATIA: In Punjab, there had roads and farm labourers and then the assis­ been an unprecedented flood and much tance given by the government? loss had been caused to our crops as well as property. Mr. Bhajan Lai, the hon. Minister, SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV: For Andhra has himself gone there and seen by himself Pradesh, regarding the assistance that has the state of the situation. The Prime Minis­ been approved, they sought assistance of ter also went there and has surveyed the Rs. 271.56 crores. Now the assistance that situation. Was any team sent over there has been approved is Rs. 28.76 crores. later also or on your own assessment you There is a sector-wise ceiling on expendi­ are going to give relief to Punjab, apart from ture. If the hon. member is interested, we Rs. 100 crores which the Prime Minister has can lay it on the Table of the House because already announced? Are you going to give it is a very big list of relief and rehabilitation. us over and above Rs. 100 crores or what is The relief amount is Rs. 20 crores; the the report of the team in regard to the amount for agricultural subsidy is Rs. 2:25 losses incurred? crores; the amount for repair of houses is Rs. .35 crores; the amount for cattle is Rs. .03 crores; the amount for public health is SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV: In Punjab, Rs. .11 crores. The total comes to Rs. 2.9 there were two waves of floods and a team crores. The amount for repair, restoration had visited twice. The total assistance of damage to the public property is Rs. sought for Punjab is Rs. 857.94 crores; and 24.99 crores. The amount for cooperative the assistance approved is Rs 150.30 crores. loan for them is Rs. .83 crores. The total This was done on 17th November. In the comes to Rs. 28.76 crores. case of Punjab, some relaxation in the assis­ tance has been given. As far as assistance is As regards Punjab, I would like to say a concerned, beyond norms, we have given assistance to Punjab. A certain relaxation word. According to norms, special dispen­ has already been given and because of that sation has been given to Punjab and this money has been increased. The team Haryana in respect of restorations of sand went there after the Minister from the Cen­ cast land and tubewells, because there was tre went to Punjab. a large scale damage to tubewells and sand. tast land. SHRI ICS. RAO: The coastal district of Andhra Pradesh was unfortunate in the re­ British Assurance to Tackle Activities of cent years; it was subjected to frequent cy­ Terrorists clones and floods. Even 4 months back also, the coastal district was subjected to + floods and cyclones. I am thankful to the *298. SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY: Ministry that they have sent a team. The SHRI R.M. BHOYE: roads in those areas are badly damaged and the State Government have made no alloca­ Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS tion in this matter. Particularly in Krishna be pleased to state: District, the road from Hanuman Junction to Bantumalli was badly damaged. The farm (a) whether Britain has recently re­ labourers normally have work for six newed their assurance to India that British 37 Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(5WC4) Oral Answers 38 soil would not be allowed to be used to aid SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY: One terrorism in India; and question, that comes from the answer of the hon. Minister. In which of the areas they (b) if so, whether there is any perceptible plead their inability to act, particularly anti- reduction in these* activities of extremists India demonstrations are taking place with from Britain? the permission of the Government. That is why, may I know in which of the areas, they THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS are reluctant to interfere? (SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO): (a) British leaders have recently made public state­ SHRI P. V. NARASIMHA RAO: Their sin­ ments against Sikh extremist activity in the gle answer to all our demands is that when U.K. Referring to such activity the British an act committed on British soil is against Secretary for Trade at a recent public func­ the British Laws, only than they will proceed tion in London stated that the U.K. would against the person committing that offence give the fullest support to India's effort to or committing that act. Now, in each case meet the challenges to her security. they will have to examine whether that per­ son has contravened any of their laws. It so (b) Extremists in the U.K. continue to happens that demonstrations etc., which go hold periodic anti-Indian demonstrations, on a continuing basis do not happen to be carry on successionist and abusive propa­ so, do not happen to be illegal acts accord­ ganda in the ethnic media and utilise gu- ing to their law, beyond a point. So, it is a rudwaras for collecting funds for terroristic question of examining the implications of activity and propagating extremism. U.K. each act and the applicability of any British based extremists continue to travel to other law so that action can be taken. This is countries in Europe and elsewhere to coor­ their stock reply. But at the same time we dinate extremist activity. have gone into several questions, where we have told them, we have tried to explain to SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY: The them that an act which they on the face of it Statement of the British Secretary for Trade consider not illegal is in fact illegal, even ac­ is ambiguous, diplomatic and according to cording to their law. That is why I said that m6, it does not meet the point. May I know this is a continuous dialogue. We are trying from the hon. Minister whether the state­ to convince them that this act, or at least ment is enough to deduce that terrorist ac­ some acts can be proceeded against, under tivities will not be carried on in future from their law itself. So, that is going on. Britain? SHRI BALWANT SINGH RAMOOWALIA: SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO: This is As the Minister has explained in his answer, only one part of what they are doing. They I have personal experience and many of the are also conducting cases, they have got hon. Members here also know, that the several people arrested, they have got sev­ Sikhs living in Great Britain, Canada and eral people convicted, there are lot of things America are more and more openly coming that they are doing and statements are a against the activities of the extremists and part of that. anti-India propaganda.

I would like also to add that from time to Will the hon. Minister tell the House time we have been sharing information with that now in many Gurudwaras in England the British Government, and we are also and Canada, the general Sikh people stood telling them what we think they should do. up and told the extremists not to propagate In some cases they are forthcoming, they these things in the religious places' that are cooperating. In some other cases they your Embassies are doing to isolate the ac­ are pleading inability for various reasons. tivities and designs of the terrorists and to This is a continuous dialogue that is going strengthen those people who want to or­ on and of late it has been seen that they ganise themselves, peacefully and non-vio- have been a little more forthright in their ut­ lently to counter the mis-information pro­ terances against terrorism in India. paganda of the extremist groups there? 39 Oral Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 40

SHRI P. V. NARASIMHA RAO: Sir, I have amendment or some new legislation to be already submitted that whatever informa­ introduced in the British Parliament because tion we have, we are sharing with the Cov­ the activities of the Sikh terrorists have in­ emment there, with the authorities there. creased. I am sorry, if Shri Ramoowalia The rest is for them to take action. It is true thinks otherwise, but our reports are that in that a larger and larger number of Sikhs citi­ Canada, Toronto, - Vancouver and in some zens and non citizens both, living abroad cities of United Kingdom, the activities are are saying that they would like to live in on the increase. That is why Mrs. Thatcher peace and they do not want all these activi­ said,.to curb them, she needs some legisla­ ties to go on. It is also true, unfortunately, tion to be introduced. I want to ask the some of the Gurudwaras have been forcibly hon. Minister, whether after receiving a occupied by extremists and we have copy of the Bill they will be submitting their brought all these facts to the notice of the proposals or their reactions, whatever it United Kingdom Government. Now they might be, to the British Government or is it are trying to tighten their laws in regard to that the British Government will not wait for collection of funds, in regard to the use of their reactions and go ahead with the legis­ Curudwaras, etc. A Bill has been introduced lation? only two or three days back. We are yet to receive the full text of the Bill. We will see SHRI P. V. NARASIMHA RAO: The Bill what more we can persuade them to do. As has been introduced. Whenever a Bill is in­ I said, this is a continuous dialogue. troduced in their Parliament, we are natu­ rally interested in what they are going to do SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: I would like to according to that law. We will examine it. know whether any scheme for coordination The text has not yet been received. It will and cooperation amongst the SAARC coun­ be received in the next few days. This is tries has been evolved for the purpose of what exactly what we did in the case of meeting the terrorist activities and whether their Citizenship law about four or five years a common approach has been made by the ago because we were continuously in touch SAARC countries with regard to common­ with them. We were trying to help them or wealth countries, especially Canada and to request them to interpret it in a particular Britain, for meeting the terrorists activities. way or introduce certain amendments May I know whether any approach has which would be more desirable from our been made by the SAARC countries vis-a-vis point of view. All this will go on after the commonwealth countries, especially Britain text is received. and Canada.

SHRI P. V. NARASIMHA RAO: Sir, SAARC countries have just ratified the laws, WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS passed the laws. It remains for them to come together and think of further steps in [Translation] relation to what they are doing within their own countries and amongst them. I am Supply of Fluorosis Contaminated Water sure that a stage will be reached. in Rajasthan

We are able to formulate certain actions *290. SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: Will to be taken by the other Governments; we the Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to could approach them. But so far, as far as state: my knowledge goes, this is yet to be done. (a) whether it has come to the notice of DR. G. S. DHILLON: Sir, the Minister Government that fluorosis contaminated has made a reference that some law or water is being supplied for drinking purpose some action is being taken in this regard. in many parts of Rajasthan; Mrs. Thatcher sometime back came out with a statement that there is a need of (b) if so, the names of the diseases which 41 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(S4/C4) Written Answers 42 can spread by the fluorosis contaminated Mission, it has been decided to instal 20 drinking water; defluoridation plants in the State.

(c) whether any concrete measures have been t^ken to supply potable water in those [English] areas; and Assistance for Repairs of Flood Damaged (d) if so, the details thereof? National Highways and Roads

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE- *292. SHRI D. B. PATIL: PARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT IN SHRIMATI N. P.JHANSI THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI LAKSHMI: JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) According to a report received from State Covemment of Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANS­ Rajasthan certain sources of drinking water PORT be pleased to state: have shown presence of fluoride. (a) the amount of assistance sought from (b) Continuous consumption of drinking the Centre by the States for the purpose of water containing excessive fluoride can repairs of National Highways and other cause several kinds of health problems such roads damaged due to recent floods; State- as skeletal fluorosis, dental fluorosis, non- wise; and skeletal manifestations or a combination of all. (b) the amount sanctioned and disbursed upto 31 October, 1988 to each State there­ (c) and (d). In fluoride affected areas, for? schemes are approved to supply potable water by providing alternate distance THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN­ sources or by providing the source with de­ ISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI RA- fluoridation plants for removal of fluoride JESH PILOT): (a) and (b). Statements I and from water. Under the sub-mission on Con­ II in respect of National Highways and trol of Fluorosis of National Drinking Water other State Roads are given below.

STATEMENT

Assistance for Repairs of Flood Damaged National Highways and Roads

Constitutionally Government of India are responsible for the development and maintenar>ce of roads declared as National Highways. All roads other than ’ National Highways in the State are essentially the responsibility of the State Governments concerned, the amount projected by the! States for Flood Damage Repairs to National Highways and the funds released upto 31st October 1988 are given below: (Rs. in crores)

S. No. Name of State Amount Amount released projected for Maintenance by State of National Highways Covemment including flood damage 1 2 3 4

1. Andhra Pradesh 6.80 7.945

2. Arunachal Pradesh 0.22 .115 43 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 44

1 2 3 4

3. Assam 2.73 4.92

4. Bihar 3.60 9.28

5. Chandigarh 0.05 0.10

6. Delhi 0.55 0.63

7. Coa 0.50 1.72

8. Gujarat 15.00 5.73

9. Haryana 3.20 2.07

10. Himachal Pradesh 7.50 2.31

11. Jammu and Kashmir 2.35 1.12

12. Karnataka 1.50 4.87

13. Kerala 4.25 2.95

14. Madhya Pradesh 3.62 6.73

15. Maharashtra 6.70 8.87

16. Manipur 0.07 0.47

17. Meghalaya 1.10 1.08

18. Nagaland 0.07 0.01

19. Pondicherry - 0.07

20. Orissa 1.99 4.91

21. rnjab 5.50 3.23

22. Rajasthan 9.50 6.60

23. Tamil Nadu 2.00 6.75

24. Uttar Pradesh 10.00 10.12

25. West Bengal 9.84 8.29 45 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 10,1910(SAK4) Written Answers 46

STATEMENT. II (c) whether Government propose to en­ act a Central Animal and Bird Protection Act Ceilings of expenditure approved as Central to prohibit their sacrifice in the country; and assistance till now for restoration of flood damages to roads, buildings, etc. (d) if so, the time by which it is likely to be done? (Rs. in crores) THE MINISTER OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI BHAJAN LAL): (a) As per available informa­ S. State Ceilings of tion, the States of Andhra Pradesh, Gujarat, No. expenditure Haryana, Karnataka, Kerala, Rajasthan and approved Tamil Nadu have enacted legislation for prevention of sacrifice of animals and birds. 1. Andhra Pradesh 11.62 (b) Buffalo, sheep; goat, poultry. 2. Assam 14.43 (c) and (d).No such proposal is under 3. Gujarat 13.36 consideration of the Central Government. The subject of preservation, protection and 4. Haryana 5.70 improvement of livestock is covered by Entry 15 of List II of 7th Schedule of 5. Himachal Pradesh 19.42 constitution ot India, which is a State Subject. 6. Jammu and Kashmir 9.58 Investment under Rural Development Programmes 7. Karnataka 8.21 *296. SHRI JAGANNATH PATNAIK: Will 8. Kerala 6.24 the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: 9. Mizoram 1.25 (a) whether Union Government have 10. Punjab 47.27 made any assessment regarding the sub­ stantial investment under the Integrated Ru­ 11. Sikkim 4.32 ral Development Programme to ensure in­ cremental income to the beneficiary fami­ 12. Tripura 0.83 lies;

13. Uttar Pradesh 20.54 (b) if so, the per capita investment under the IRDP; 14. West Bengal 10.57 (c) the average amount invested every year under the National Rural Employment Animal and Bird Sacrifice Programme and the Rural Landless Em­ ployment Guarantee Programme; and *295. SHRI PARASRAM BHARDWAJ: Will the Minister of ACRICULTURE be (d) the steps Government have taken for pleased to state: the monitoring of the programmes to avoid misuse of funds intended for the poor? (a) the names of the States which have enacted legislation for prevention of animal and bird sacrifice; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ PARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT IN (b)-the names of animals/birds sacrificed THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI for religious purposes every year in violation JANARDHANA POOjARY): (a) to (d). The In­ of theseiegislations; tegrated Rural Development Programme 47 Written Answm DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answm 48

(IRDP) aims to assist selected families below Investment (includes budgetary an annual household income of Rs. 4,8007- resources and credit) in rural areas by providing income generat­ (Rs. in crores) ing assets through a package of assistance comprising subsidy and institutional credit. The Vllth Plan provision for this programme 1987-88 1902.79 is Rs. 1186.79 crores of central outlay and Rs. 1172.02 crores of State outlay.* Institu­ 1988-89 655.04 tional credit worth Rs. 4,000 crores was ex­ (upto September, 1988) pected to be generated. The actual invest­ ments made under the programme in the Vllth Plan are given below: Per family investment under IRDP (comprising subsidy and credit) for new Investment (includes budgetary families was Rs. 3311 in 1985-86, Rs* 4511 resources and credit) in 1986-87 and Rs. 4470 in 1987-88. (Rs. in crores) The expenditure incurred for the National 1985-86 1171.26 Rural Employment Programme (NREP) and Rural Landless Employment Cuarantee Pro­ 1986-87 1628.26 gramme (RLECP) are as follows:-

(Rs. in crores)

Year NREP RLECP Resource utilisation Resource utilisation (including value of (including^alue of foodgrains) foodgrains)

1985-86 531.95 453.17

1986-87 717.77 635.91

1987-88 788.30 649.84

1988-89 364.80 241.69 (upto September)

The Government is monitoring these Under IRDP, a system of qualitative schemes through a system of monthly, quar­ monitoring has also been introduced re­ terly and annual reports. A Monitoring Cell cently which envisages minimum number of at the State Headquarters has been pro­ field visits for each level of supervisory offi­ vided for improving the planning and moni­ cialsfrom the State to the Block level. toring capabilities at the State level. The States/UTs have also been suggested to set up Vigilance and Grievance Cells to look A system of concurrent evaluation has into the charges of corruption and other also been introduced both for IRDP and forms of misuse of funds. An Internal Audit NREP to obtain continuous feed-back on the Cell has also been set up at the State Head­ progress of implementation of the schemes quarters for making periodical visits to with a view to take corrective action wher­ check irregularities. ever necessary. 49 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(S4/C4) Written Answers 50

[Translation) THE MINISTER OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI BHAJAN LAL): (a) Yes, Sir. India is in a posi­ World Bank Aided Horticultural Project tion to provide engineering and consultancy services to the developing countries and *297. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the also supply sophisticated equipment re­ Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to quired for setting up a fertilizer plant. state: (b) The Science Advisory Council to the (a) whether any horticultural project for Prime Minister (SAC-PM) recently submitted hilly areas has been formulated for imple­ a report on "Chemicals Industry in the year mentation with the assistance of World 2000 A.D. - National Priorities". Bank; (c) The report has suggested new (b) if so, the details thereof; strategies and research in specific areas of fertilizers, synthetic fibres, speciality chemi­ (c) whether the project has been submit­ cals and high performance polymers. It has ted to the World Bank; and also been mentioned that with requisite in­ puts in R & D, India can acquire a leading (d) if not, the reasons for the delay? position covering all types of nitrogenous and phosphatic fertilizers from preparation THE MINISTER OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI of project reports to supply of technology, BHAJAN LAL): (a) to (d). A Horticulture De­ erection of plants to running of plants on velopment Project for implementation in contract basis. In the area of R & D, Pro­ the North-West Hill Region comprising jects & Development India Ltd. (PDIL), a States of Jammu and Kashmir, Himachal Public Sector Engineering Consultancy Or­ Pradesh and hill areas of Uttar Pradesh is ganisation has done useful R & D work to under preparation. The team constituted develop various catalysts which are now for this purpose has visited the states. The being used by the Fertilizer Industry. India project proposes to improve production of has received several offers of joint ventures temperate fruits, vegetables and flowers for the manufacture of fertilizers abroad. thereby increasing income of the farmers. India's participation could be in the form of After the project is formulated, it will be preparation of project reports, design engi­ sent to the World Bank for funding. neering services, supply of equipment, con­ struction, commissioning and management of the plants. [EnglishJ

Export of Fertilizer Plants and Technology

*299. SHRI S. M. CURADDI: Research on Lord Krishna SHRI SHANTILAL PATEL *300. SHRI DICVIJAY SINCH: Will the Will the Minister of ACRICULTURE be Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVEL­ pleased to state: OPMENT be pleased to state:

(a) whether India can acquire a leading (a) whether Covemment propose to set position in the fertilizer sector and become up a Special Commission to do detailed re­ a major exporter of plants and technology; search on Lord Krishna from all aspects in­ cluding history and geography; (b) whether any Committee has-submit­ ted a report in this regard to the Prime (b) whether this proposal is pending for Minister; and nearly four years; and

(c) if so, the main features of the report (c) the time by which a decision is to be and the steps being taken thereon? taken in the matter? 51 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answer* 52

THE MINISTER OF HUMAN RESOURCE specific pay scale for different categories of DEVELOPMENT (SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER): school teachers. NCT - 1 had recommended (a) Proposal to set up a Special Commis­ an illustrative model of a composite running sion to do detailed research on Lord Krishna pay scale for all categories of teachers and from all aspects including history and geog­ educational administrators, starting from Rs. raphy is not under consideration. 500/- and going up to Rs. 3950/-. the Commission had also recommended mini­ (b) No, Sir. mum benefit of Rs. 100/- and Rs. 150/- p.m. for secondary and primary school teachers (c) Does not arise. respectively.

Pay Scales for Teachers 3. The recommendations of NCT - I were considered by an Empowered Com­ -301. SHRI MU HI RAM SAIKIA: mittee constituted by the Ministry. In the SHRI C. JANCA REDDY: light of the recommendations of the NCT -I, the report of the IV Central Pay Commis­ Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE sion as also the postulates of the National DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: Policy on Education, the Covemment re­ vised the pay scales of school teachers on (a) whether new pay scales, for school 12.8.1987. The Government has not teachers of all Union Territories including favoured a single running scale as it would Covemment aided schools and organisa­ not be in the best interests of maintaining tions like Kendriya Vidyaiaya Sangathan etc. the educational standards and may act as a were announced on 12 August, 1987; dis-incentives to teachers acquiring higher qualifications. (b) if so, the details thereof;

Holidays Observed by Educational (c) whether these tally with the recom­ Institutions mendations made in this regard by the Chattopadhyaya Commission; *302. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DE- (d) if not, whether the recommendations VELOPMENT be pleased to state: of the Chattopadhyaya Commission are proposed to be implemented fully; and (a) the average number of public holi­ days, including Saturdays or Sundays, ob­ (e) if so, when these are likely to be im­ served by the educational system in India plemented? during an academic year;

THE MINISTER OF HUMAN RESOURCE (b) the average duration of long vacation DEVELOPMENT (SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER): observed by the educational system during (a) to (e). The Government issued orders a year; on 12.8.87 revising the pay scales of school teachers in the employment of Union Terri­ (c) the average number of actual teach­ tories and Autonomous Bodies set up by the ing days in schools, colleges and universities Central Government like Kendriya Vidyaiaya in the country during the academic year; Sangathan and Central Tibetan Schools Ad­ and ministration, effective from 1.1.1986. The details of the new pay scales are given in (d) whether Covemment propose to is­ the statement laid on the Table of the sue any guidelines in this regard to the State House [Placed in Library. See No. LT- Governments and educational authorities? 7039/88] THE MINISTER OF HUMAN RESOURCE 2. The National Commission on Teach­ DEVELOPMENT (SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER): ers - I (NCT - I) has not recommended any (a) to (d). The number of holidays to be ob­ 53 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA1 0 ,1910(£A/C4) Written Answers 54 served by the educational Institutions is de dredger when it sank was Rs. 244.8 lakhs, cided by the respective State Governments, the loss can be ascertained after the dredger Union Territory Administrations, and Uni­ has been salvaged. versity authorities, keeping in view factors including inter-alia the local climatic condi­ (b) Global tenders for the salvage of the tions, social and cultural requirements and dredger have been invited by the Port Trust. minimum number of actual days of effective teaching considered essential. Detailed in­ (c) and (d). The dredger 'Bolgatti' was formation in respect of holidays being ob­ repaired recently and is engaged in dredg­ served by the educational institutions ing at the Port. throughout the country is neither available nor feasible to collect. On an average, (e) and (f). The Mercantile Marine Sur­ however, the vacation intervals in educa­ veyor has pointed out that some of the cer­ tional institutions in India aggregate to tificates of the following vessels are not up- about 11 weeks in a year which are not too todate:- long considering the diverse climatic and other local conditions. In the guidelines is­ (1) Motor Tug Bristow sued by them, the National Council of edu­ cational Research and Training, the Univer­ (2) Dredger Bolghatty sity Grants Commission and the All India Council for Technical Education have rec­ (3) Fire Fighting Vessel Bahadur ommended around 200 days of effective teaching in an academic year which com­ (4) Motor Tug Kodungallur pare favourably with the number of teaching days observed by the educational institu­ (5) Motor Tug Cochin-ll tions in other countries. (6) Motor Tug Shaktan

Dredgers of Cochin Port Tru*t (7) Floating Crane Periyar.

*303. PROF. K.V . THOMAS: Will the Evaluation of Teacher Performance Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: *304. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD SETHI:. Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE (a) the loss to Cochin Port Trust due to DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: the sinking of the dredger Mattanchery; (a) whether over the past few years (b) the steps taken to salvage the teachers have been given better pay and dredger; allowances and a number of other incen­ tives; (c) whether the dredger 'Bolgatti' was repaired recently; (b) if so, wnether any criteria has been laid down to evaluate their work perfor­ (d) if so, whether it is in working condi­ mance also; and tion or can be made operational; (c) if so, the details thereof? (e) whether the Mercantile Marine Sur­ veyor has questioned the safety of many of THE MINISTER OF HUMAN RESOURCE the vessels of Cochin Port Trust; and DEVELOPMENT (SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER): (a) Yes, Sir. The pay scalles of teachers in (f) if so, the names of those vessels? Universities and Colleges throughout the country have been improved from time to THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN­ time with financial assistance provided by ISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI RA- the Central Government/U.G.C. At the JESH PILOT): (a) The book value of the school level, the pay scales of teachers in 55 Whiten Answers DECEMBER 1, 1988 Wr'^an Answers 56

the Union Territories and schools directly schemes from out of the Sugar Develop­ funded by the Central government ment Fund (SDF). (Kendriya Vidhyalayas, Navodya Vidyalayas, etc.) have also been revised. The State During 1987-88, 32.86 lakh hectares has Governments have also been revising the been brought under sugarcane. The State- scales of teachers in schools maintained by wise details are given in Statement-I below'. them. (b) and (c). No scheme for the devel­ (b) and (c). The revision of pay scales of opment of sugarcane has been received University and College teachers, effective from the State Government of Gujarat. from 1.1.1986, envisages regular and sys­ However, loan applications from six sugar tematic appraisal of their performance. The factories were received through State Gov­ UGC has, in consultation with the All India ernment of Gujarat out of which loan for Federation of University and College Teach­ four sugar factories amounting to Rs. 3.81 ers' organisations (AIFUCTO) formulated crores have been sanctioned as per details certain guidelines and the format for the given in Statement-I I below. evaluation of performance of University and College teachers. These have been made available to the State Governments, Univer­ STATEMENT! sities, etc. on 12.11.1988. It is expected that this system of performance appraisal State-wise area covered under Sugarcane would become operational w.e.f. 1988-89. during 1987-88

Development of Sugarcane SI. State Area *305. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA: No. (lakh ha.) Will the Minister' of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: 1. Andhra Pradesh 1.50 (a) the steps taken and the amount spent so far on the development of sugar­ 2. Bihar 1.20 cane in the country and the total area brought under sugarcane cultivation, State- 3. Gujarat 0.82 wise; 4. Haryana 1.42 (b) whether any scheme for the devel­ opment of sugarcane in Gujarat has been 5. Karnataka 1.68 received from the State Government; and 6. Madhya Pradesh 0.66 (c) if so, the details thereof? 7. Maharashtra 2.92 THE MINISTER OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI BHAJAN LAL): (a) For the development of 8. Punjab 1.04 sugarcane, funds are provided for rearing of nurseries, pest control measures, incentives 9. Tamil Nadu 2.08 to cultivators to take up improved varieties of sugarcane and irrigation schemes etc. 10. Uttar Pradesh 18.07 Further, minimum price for sugarcane is an­ nounced by Government of India every year 11. Others 1.47 to ensure remunerative price to the farmers.

A sum of Rs. 178.34 crores has been Total All India 32.86 sanctioned for the cane development 57 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(&4/C4) Written Answers 58

STATEMENT.il

Details of loan sanctioned to Sugar Factories in Gujarat

SI. Name of the Year Loan Sanctioned No. sugar factory (Rs. in lakhs)

1. Shree Madhi Vibhag Khand 1987-88 82.16 Udyog Sahakari Mandli Ltd., Madhi, Distt. Surat.

2. Shree Khedut Sahakari Khand 1988-89 126.89 Udyog Mandli Ltd., Baben- Bardoli.

3. Shree Sayan Vibhag Sahakari 1988-89 63.89 Khand Udyog Mandli Ltd., Sayan, Distt. Surat.

4. Shree Chalthan Vibhag Saha­ 1988-89 108.15 kari Khand Udyog Mandli Ltd., P.O. Chalthan, Distt. Surat.

Total 381.09

Commercial Production of Neem Dust (b) to (d). No neem product has been got registered as an insecticide by any one *306. SHRI P. R. KUMARAMANCALAM: under the Insecticide Act, 1968. Will the Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to state: [Translation]

(a) whether neem products can effec­ Jhuggis in Premises of Delhi tively be used for control of pests; Administration School (b) if so, the details of agencies market­ 2793. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MA­ ing these products; LIK: Will the Minister of HUMAN RE­ SOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to (c) whether any commercial production state: of neem dust or spraying insecticides for agricultural use has been undertaken by any (a) whether it is a fact that Jhuggis have Public Sector units; and appeared within the premises of some schools of Delhi Administration; (d) if so, the details thereof? (b) if so, the action taken in this regard THE MINISTER OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI so far; and BHAJAN LAL): (a) Limited laboratory and field trials have shown that neem products (c) the time by which these jhuggis will like neem seed kernels, neem cake, neem be removed from these schools? oil, dry leaves and neem flowers powder, etc. have some insecticidal properties against insect-pests of agricultural crops and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ against pests of stored commodities. PARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CUL- 59 Written Answers DECEMBER 1, 1988 Written Answers 60

TURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RE­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN­ SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (L. P. .SHAHI): (a) ISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI K. Yes, Sir. NATWAR SINGH): (a) No Sir.

(b) and (c). As per Delhi Administration, (b) Does not arise. the matter has been taken up with the con­ cerned authority such as DDA etc. Delhi (c) Does not arise. Administration have also filed cases in the Courts for removal of jhuggis. The final ac­ tion in this regard will depend upon the Opening of Mother Dairy Booths outcome of such proceedings. 2796. SHRI KAMAL NATH: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to [English] state: Appointment of Directoi, National Research Centre for Spices, Calicut (a) whether Covernment propose to )pen more Mother Dairy jrfiilk booths in Nirman Vihar and adjoining colonies; 2794. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RA- MACHANDRAN: Will the Minister of AGRI­ (b) if so the time by which these will CULTURE be pleased to state: start functioning; (a) whether a Director has been appoin­ ted fur the National Research Centre for (c) whether such booths are also pro­ Spices, Calicut; posed to be opened in thickly populated ar­ (b) if not, the reasons therefor; and eas of Shakarpur and Laxmi Nagar colonies; and (c) the steps initiated for the appoint­ ment of the Director? (d) if not, the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ PARTMENT OF AGRICULTURAL RESEARCH AND EDUCATION IN THE MINISTRY OF THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ AGRICULTURE (SHRI HARI KRISHNA PARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND CO­ SHASTRI): (a) No, Sir. OPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRI­ CULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) (b) and (c). Although the post was ad­ Mother Dairy milk bootli No. 723 is already vertised, no candidate was found suitable functioning in Nirman Vihar. The Dairy has for the post. The post is being readvertised. taken possession of the following sites in the adjoining colonies for construction of Financial Assistance to Iraq for Post war bulk milk vending booths: Development 1. Convenient Shopping Centre, 2795. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: Preet Vihar, Block-C; Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be 2. Convenient Shopping Centre, pleased to state: New Rajdhani Enclave; 3. Convenient Shopping Centre, (a) whether Iraq* has sought India's fi­ Cagan Vihar. nancial assistance for it's post war development; (b) Civil construction is expected to be completed by April, 1989 and the booths (b) if so, the details thereof; and will be ready thereafter for commissioning when electricity, water, sewer and tele­ (c) the assistance given by Government phone connections are provided by the in response thereto? local bodies. 61 Written Answen ACRAHAYANA 10, 1910(5A>C4) Written Answers 62

(c) and (d). In Shakarpur, no suitable Mid-day: Seasonal Fruit. site for construction of a bulk milk vending booth could be located. However, a site at Evening Tea: Tea and Snacks. Tikona Park in Laxmi Nagar has been iden­ tified and Municipal Corporation of Delhi Dinner: Bread, Rice, Dal, Vege­ has been moved for allotment for the site to table Salad or Pappad. the Mother Dairy. Night: Milk - 250 gms. Food Provided in Navodaya Vidyalaya, Canacona, Goa (Non-Vegetarian food may also be served on suitable occasions as decided by 2797. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: Will the Mess Sub-Committee. If Curd is not the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DE­ served, it must be compensated by any VELOPMENT be pleased to state: other suitable item).

(a) whether the students of the Navo­ Studies in Spoken Languages and Dialects daya Vidyalaya at Canacona, Goa are not by Central Institute of Indian Languages provided fish in their daily food despite the fact that fish is one of the main items in 2798. DR. B. L SHAILESH: Will the Goan food; Minister of HUMAN RESOORCE DEVEL­ OPMENT be pleased to state: (b) if not, the details or the type of food provided to the students; and (a) whether the Central Institute of Indian Languages conducted some studies (c) the instruction issued, and date in spoken languages and dialects which still thereof with respect to the food to be pro­ liave not acquired the status of written lan­ vided to the students in Navodaya Schools? guages; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ (b) if so, the scripts of dialects developed PARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CUL­ by the above Institute so far? TURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RE­ SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ SHAHI): (a) to (c). The detailed reports PARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CUL­ about the food being provided in various TURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RE­ Navodaya Vidyalayas, including Navodaya SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. Vidyalaya, Canacona, Goa are not being ob­ SF1AHI): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. The Central tained by the Navodaya Vidyalaya Samiti Institute of Indian Languages, Mysore, uses from the Vidyalayas. However, the Navo­ modified script of the state language or De- daya Vidyalaya Samiti have issued general vanagri for unwritten languages. instructions/guidelines, vide their letter dated 14th September, 1987 regarding the arrangements to be made for running the Collaboration Between USAID and NBCR Hostel Mess in Navodaya Vidyalayas. The daily menu suggested is as under: 2799. SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY: Will the Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to Breakfast: Egg, bread and butter, state: milk or tea/Potato Paranthas and tea/ (a) whether United States Agency for In­ Bread Pakoras and ternational Development (USAID) has tea/Purree, Potatoes agreed to provide 13 million US Dollars to and tea/any other local the National Bureau of Plant Genetic Re­ suitable item. sources (NBCR).

Lunch: Bread, Rice, Dal, Vege­ table and Curd. (b) if so, the details of the projects; and 63 Written Answers DECEMBER 1, 1988 Written Answers 64

(c) the details of the institutions and (b) whether the Government of Orissa bodies to be engaged for the research work, has requested Union Government to release with the names of the places where re­ adequate funds; and search is likely to be undertaken? (c) if so, the reaction of Government in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ this regard? PARTMENT OF AGRICULTURAL RESEARCH AND EDUCATION IN THE MINISTRY OF THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ ACRICULTURE (SHRI HARI KRISHNA PARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND CO ­ SHASTRI): (a) Yes, Sir. OPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRI­ CULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) (b) The major components of the pro­ The State Government of Orissa have re­ jects are building up infrastructure for plant ported that a population of 19.23 lakhs and quarantine, documentation and conserva­ an area of 1.65 lakhs hectares in 1351 vil­ tion; field and laboratory equipments and lages of 7 districts of the State have been training/visits of scientists to Genetic Re­ affected by the floods during the south-west sources Centres in USA to generate more monsoon 1988. capabilities. (b) and (c). No memorandum seeking (c) The research work will be under­ Central assistance for flood relief has been taken at the National Bureau of Plant Ge­ received so far from the State Government netic Resources, New Delhi and its Regional of Orissa. Stations situated in different agro-climatic zones, namely, Shimla, Jodhpur, Akola, Construction of Roacl/Bridge in Punjab Trichur, Shillong, Bhowali, Hyderabad. Re­ and Himachal Pradesh search support will also be provided through this Project to build up facilities in 2801. PROF. NARAIN CHAND other ICAR Institutes namely, Central Potato PARASHAR: Will the Minister of SURFACE Research Institute, Shimla, Central Tube TRANSPORT be pleased to state: Crops Research Institute, Trivandrum, Sug­ arcane Breedir Institute, Coimbatore; Cen­ (a) the latest position/progress regarding tral Plantation Crops Research Institute, the clearance and construction ot link roads Kasargod; Indian Horticultural Research In­ between Kiratpur Railway Station and Kirat- stitute, Bangalore; National Research Centre pur bus stand (District Ropar, Punjab), for Spices, Calicut; Indian Agricultural Re­ bridge over Beas river at Sri Hargobindpur search Institute, New Delhi; Central Insti­ and bridges over drains/rivulets along the tute for Cotton Research, Nagpur; Central road between Hoshiarpur (Punjab) and Una Rice Research Institute, Cuttack; and All In­ (Himachal Pradesh); dia Crops Coordinated Programmes, namely, Minor Millet, UAS, Bangalore; (b) when the construction work of these Rapeseed and Mustard, HAU, Hissar and projects is likely to be started; and Directorate of Pulses, Kanpur. (c) when these projects are likely to be Central Assistance to Orissa on Natural completed alongwith estimated expenditure Calamities in each case initially and on completion? 2800. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Will the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN­ Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to ISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI RA- state: JESH PILOT): (a) to (c). The State Govern­ (a) whether Government are aware that ment have reported that the work of Link due to frequent occurrence of natural Road between Kiratpur Railway Station and calamities in the State of Orissa the rural Kiratpur Bus stand already exists and repairs economy of the State has received a great of the same were completed in May, 1988. set back; There is no proposal to construct bridges 65 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SA/C4) Written Answers 66 over drains/rivulets along Hoshiarpur-Una cultural University, Anand with the yield of 1 Road at present. ton/ha. Apart from the new variety, the production technology has also been stan­ The construction of work on Bridge dardised and given to the farmers for im­ across river Beas at Sri Hargobindpur, ap­ proving production of this crop. proved under Central loan assistance pro­ gramme of Economic Importance with a (b) SARPAGANDHA: central share of Rs. 249.50 lakhs, com­ menced in February, 1987 and is likely to be The Jawaharlal Nehru Krishi Vishwa Vid- completed by 1992 at an estimated cost of hyalaya, Centre at Indore has selected a about Rs. 14.00 crores. The latest expendi­ high yielding material named RS-I. ture on execution of this bridge (upto March, 1988) is Rs. 168.69 lakhs. (c) LIQUORICE:

Indigenous Plants of India An improved selection from Russia has been identified which gives a high root yield 2802. DR. C. VIJAYA RAMA RAO: Will of over 2 tonnes/ha. the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: (d) ASGAND:

(a) whether Indian Council of Agricultural Mandsaur Centre of Jawaharlal Nehru Research/Council of Scientific Industrial Re­ Krishi Vishwa Vidhyalaya has identified WS- search have brought out any material on in­ 20 an improved material with a high root digenous plants of India that are valuable yield. Control measures for protecting for medicines and also for use as insecti­ seedlings from early seedling blight have cides; and also been developed.

(b) if so, the details thereof? In addition to the above, research has also been taken up for selecting/developing THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ improved varieties of Chirayata, Safed musli PARTMENT OF AGRICULTURAL RESEARCH and Cuggal. AND EDUCATION IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI HARI KRISHNA The Council of Scientific and Industrial SHASTRI): (a) Yes, Sir. Research has also tested several plant prod­ ucts such as Sallai Cuggal and Isabgol (b) Research has been carried out on against human diseases. several indigenous plants showing useful­ ness for the pharmaceutical industry and 2. For insecticide: also for extraction of insecticides as given Technology has been developed for for­ below: mulation of neem products as insecticides by the Indian Agricultural Research Institute 1. For Medicine: (ICAR). These products are in the form of dust, water dispersable powder, emulsifi- The Indian Council of Agricultural Re­ able concentrate and solution. search has been engaged in research on medicinal plants since 1972. Several im­ Dillapole, an unwanted component from proved varieties have been developed in Anethi oil (Anethum sowa) and its deriva­ selected crops/plants with the objective of tives have been developed as potent syner­ increasing yield and active content. Some gists for insecticide such as pyrethrum. car­ of the salient achievements are as follows: bamates etc.

(a) ISABCOL: Karangin, a furnao-flavonoid present in Karanj seed (Pongamia glabra) has been A high yielding variety named Gujarat Is- found as a nitrification inhibitor for nitroge­ abgol-l was developed at the Gujarat Agri­ nous fertilizers. 67 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 68

Extracts from Acorus calamus as a larvi- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ dde, Adathoda vasaka as an egg production PARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND CUL­ inhibitor have been tested by the Council of TURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RE­ Scientific and Industrial Research. SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. SHAHI): (a) In view of the anticipated fi­ nancial constraints, the Executive Commit­ [Translation] tee of the Navodaya Vidyaiaya Samiti in its meeting held on 9th September, 1988 has Agriculture Colleges in Madhya Pradesh decided, as of now, not to open any new Vidyaiaya during 1989-90. 2803. SHRI NAN DIAL CHOUDHARY: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE • be (b) The Navodaya Vidyaiaya Scheme en­ pleased to state: visages the establishment of, on an average, one Vidyaiaya in each district of the country (a) the places in Madhya Pradesh wherv during the 7th Five Year Plan period in a new Agricultural Colleges have been phased manner, to be located, as far as opened during the last three years; and possible in rural areas. So far 256 Navodaya Vidyalayas have been established in 29 (b) the time by which Agriculture College States/Union Territories. While no specific is proposed to be opened in Sagar District information district-wise is available it is es­ of Madhya Pradesh? timated that more than 50 percent of the Navodaya Vidyalayas are set up in dis­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ tricts/areas considered to be backward. PARTMENT OF AGRICULTURAL RESEARCH AND EDUCATION IN THE MINISTRY OF (c) All Navodaya Vidyalayas will be affili­ ACRICULTURE (SHRI HARI KRISHNA ated to the Central Board of Secondary Edu­ SHASTRI): (a) Sir, Jawaharlal Nehru Krishi cation. The syllabi prescribed by the Board Vishwa Vidyaiaya, Jabalpur has established for secondary and senior secondary classes two Colleges of Agriculture, one at Khandwa will, therefore, apply to these Vidyalayas and the other at Mandsaur without the con­ also. The Navodaya Vidyalayas will have all currence of the Indian Council of Agricul­ the four streams i.e. Humanities, Science,. tural Research during the last three years. Commerce and Vocational. Physical Educa­ tion, games, sports, yoga, cultural activities (b) No proposal to start a College of and fine arts project work, hiking, visit to Agriculture at Sagar has been received. places of educational, cultural and historical interest, adventure activities and work expe­ [English] rience will be assiduously promoted and adequate arrangements made for them. Navodaya Vidyalayas

2805. SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA: Will Production of Groundnut the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DE­ VELOPMENT be pleased to state: 2807. SHRI RANJIT SINCH GAEKWAD: Will the Minister of ACRICULTURE be (a) the number of Navodaya Vidyalayas pleased to state: proposed to be set up during the remaining period of current plan; (a) the State-wise estimated production of groundnut during the year 1988 against (b) the number of those which have the corresponding period of 1987; been set up in areas/districts considered to be backward; and (b) the average price per quintal of groundnut being received by the farmers, (c) the distinctive features of the courses State-wise during the year 1988 against the offered by the above Vidyalayas? prices received by them during 1987; 69 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SA/C4) Written Answers 70

(c) whether the prices of groundnut re­ terest of farmers by making bulk purchases mained below the support price for the of groundnut in Gujarat? above two years in the open market; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ PARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND CO­ (d) if so, the details of the support prices OPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRI­ as fixed by Government for groundnut for CULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) the above two years; and State-wise estimated production of ground­ nut during 1986-87 and 1987-88 is given (c) the steps taken to safeguard the in­ below:-

(Thousand tonnes)

State 1986-87 . 1987-88 (Provisional)

1. Andhra Pradesh 1346 1708

2. Cujarat 1292 137

3. Karnataka 894 924

4. Madhya Prad esh 192 230

5. Maharashtra 435 618

6. Orissa 496 543

7. Rajasthan 131 113

8. Tamil Nadu 1078 1259

9. U.P. 113 71

10. Others 83 67

11. All Indi^ 6060 5670

(b) Average of month-end wholesale during 1987 (Jan. to Dec.) and 1988 (Jan. to prices of groundnut at selected centres Oct.) is given below:-

(Rs. per quintal)

Centre/State Variety Average 1987 1988 (Jan-Dee.) Oan-Oct.) 1. Rajkot With Shell 645 776 (Gujarat)

2. Kanpur With Shell 624 897 (U.P.) 71 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 72

\______- - - - ...... Centre/State Variety ------Average------1987 1988 (Jan-Dee) (Jan-Oct.)

3. Hyderabad Seeds 959 888 (Andhra Pradesh)

4. Bombay Bold 973 953 (Maharashtra)

5. Villupuram Bunch Kernel 899 800 (Tamil Nadu)

(c) During 1987 and 1988 the wholesale THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI prices of groundnut of fair average quality JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) to (c). Yes, remained above the support prices fixed by Sir. Works costing Rs. 55.86 lakhs were the Government. sanctioned in tribal areas of Coorg, South Kenara & Mysore districts of Karnataka State (d) Does not arise. in the year 1986-87 under the scheme of construction of roads in tribal areas. During (e) The Government of India has desig­ the last two years an amount of Rs. 29.12 nated NAFED as the Central Nodal Agency lakhs was released to the State Govern­ for undertaking price support purchases, ment. when the prices of groundnut tend to fall below the support level fixed by the Gov­ ernment. In Gujarat, NAFED has finalised Committees for Panchayati Raj all operational arrangements with State agencies, namely, GUJCOMASOL and 2809. SHRI JITENDRA PRASADA: Will the GROFED for making price support pur­ Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to chases as and when the prices tend to fall state: below support level. (a) the names of Committees/high Assistance to Karnataka for Construction power bodies set up to examine Panchayati of Roads in Tribal Areas Raj in the country from time to time since 1952; and 2808. SHRI SRIKANTHA DATTA NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR: Will the Minis­ (b) the details of the main recommenda­ ter of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: tions made by such Committees/bodies?

(a) whether Central assistance is being THE MINISTER. OF STATL IN THE DE­ given to the State of Karnataka to take up PARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT IN construction of roads in the tribal areas; THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) Important (b) if so, the amount of Central assis­ Committees/high powered bodies which tance given for that purpose during the last have been set up at the national level to ex­ three years; and amine inter-alia Panchayati Raj in the coun­ try from time to time since 1952 are the (c) the details of the tribal areas where following:- road construction work has been started? (i) Team for the Study of Commu­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ nity Projects and National Exten PARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT IN sion Service (Balwantray Mehta 73 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 10, mO(SAKA) Written Answers 74

Committee) (Report brought out of guidance, supervision and in 1957). higher planning.

(ii) Committee on Panchayati Raj In­ 2. At the block level, an elected self- stitutions (Ashoka Mehta Com­ governing institution should be set mittee) (Report brought out in up with its jurisdiction co-existen- 1978). sive with a development block.

(iii) Committee to review the existing 3. The panchayat samiti should be Administrative Arrangements for constituted by indirect elections Rural Development and Poverty from the village panchayats. Alleviation Programmes (CAARD) (C.V.K. Rao Committee) (Report 4. The functions of the panchayati brought out in 1985). samiti should cover the develop­ ment of agriculture in all its as­ (iv) Committee for the concept pa­ pects, improvement of cattle, per on Panchayati Raj Institu­ promotion of local industries, pub­ tions (C.C.P.P.R.1), (L.M. Singhvi lic health, welfare work, adminis­ Committee) (Report submitted in tration of primary schools and 1986). collection and maintenance of statistics. It should also act as an (v) Commission on Centre State agent of the State Government in Relations (Sarkaria Commission) executing special schemes of de­ (Report brought out in 1988). velopment entrusted to it. Other functions should be transferred to (vi) Report of the Sub-Committee of the panchayat samitis only when the Consultative Committee of they have started functioning as Parliament attached to the Min­ efficient democratic institutions. istry of Personnel, Public Crievance & Pensions on Type 5. The State Government should give of Political & Administrative to these samitis adequate grants- Structure in the Districts for Dis­ in-aid conditionally or uncondi­ trict Planning (Thungon Commit­ tionally or on a matching basis, tee) (Report brought out in with due regard to economically 1988). backward areas. (b) The main recommendations made by 6. All Central and State funds spent these Committees/bodies relating to Pan­ in a block area should invariably chayati Raj Institutions are given in the be assigned to the panchayat Statement I to VI below samiti to be spent by it directly or indirectly excepting when the STATEMENf-l samiti recommends direct assis­ tance to an institution, Main Recommendations of the Balwantray Mehta Committee Relating to 7. A Certain amount of control Panchayati Raj Institutions should inevitably be retained by the Government, e.g., the power 1. The Government should divest it­ of superseding a panchayat samiti self completely of certain duties in public interest. and responsibilities and develop them to body which will have the 8. The constitution of the panchayat entire charge of all development should be .purely on an elective work within its jurisdiction, re­ basis with the provision for the co­ serving to itself only the functions option of two women members 75 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 76

and one member each from the these samitis, M.LAs and M.Ps Scheduled Castes and Scheduled representing the area and the Tribes. No other special groups district level officers. The collector need be given special representa­ will be its chairman and one of his tion. officers will act as secretary.

9. Main resources of income of the STATEMENT-fl panchayat will be property or house tax, tax on markets and ve­ Main Recommendations oftheAsoka Mehta hicles, octroi or terminal tax, con­ Committee on Panchayati Raj Institutions servancy tax, water and lighting rate, income from cattle ponds, 1. In the Panchayati Raj structure, grants from the panchayat samitis there should be a two-tier set up, and fees charged from the registra­ i.e. a district level, zila parishad tion of animals sold. and a mandal panchayat covering a population of 15,000 to 20,000. 10 The budget of the village pan­ chayat will be subject to scrutiny 2. With the two tier structure, the and approval of the panchayat Committee also suggested ulti­ samiti, chief officer of which will mate abolition of the block as a exercise the same power in regard unit of developmental administra­ to the village panchayat as the tion. Collector will in regard to the pan­ chayat samiti. No village pan­ 3. All the development functions re­ chayat should,however, be super­ lating to a district which are now seded except by the State Gov­ performed by the State Govern­ ernment who will do so only on ments should be placed under the the recommendation of the Zila zila parishad. Parishad. 4. The term of panchayati raj institu­ 11. The compulsory duties of the vil­ tions should be 4 years. Direct lage panchayats should include elections to these bodies should among others provision of water be held simultaneously. supply, sanitation, lighting, main­ tenance of roads, land manage­ 5. Political parties could participate in ment, collection and maintenance the panchayati raj elections. of records, and other statistics and the welfare of backward classes. It 6. Elections to panchayati raj bodies will also act as an agent of the should be conducted by the Chief panchayat samiti in executing any Electoral Officers of the States in scheme entrusted to it consultation with the Election Commission. 12. The judicial panchayat may have much larger jurisdiction than even 7. Nayaya panchayats should be kept a Gram Sevak's circle, and out of separate from the developmental the panel suggested by village panchayats. A qualified judge panchayats the sub-divisional or should preside over them and district magistrate may select per­ elected Panches should act as sons to form judicial panchayats. members of benches of Nayaya panchayats. 13. To ensure necessary coordination between the panchayat samitis, a 8. Panchayati raj bodies should nor­ zila parishad should be constituted mally not be superseded, but if consisting of the presidents of supersession become necessary, 77 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 10,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 78

election should be held within six 4. The President of the Zila Parishad months. can be directly elected for a term co-terminus with the Zila Parishad 9. Representation of the scheduled or for one year each on the May- castes and scheduled tribes in all oral Pattern. The work of the Zila panchayati raj bodies should be on Parishad should be done by a the basis of their population. number pf Sub-Committees elected on the basis of the propor­ 10. There should be complete transfer tional representation so that par­ of the land revenue collections to ticipatory democracy could be de­ panchayati raj institutions over a veloped and encouraged. period of five years. 5. Panchayati Raj Institutions at the 11. A permanent annual grant of not district level and below should be less than Rs. 2.50 per capita assigned important role in respect should be made to the mandal of planning, implementation and panchayats. monitoring of rural development programmes. 12. The committee agreed to the need for some provision in the Constitu­ 6. The Committee recommends the tion in order to provide the pan­ introduction of the concept of dis­ chayati raj institutions the requisite trict budget. It is desirable that it status as well as assurance of con­ is brought into being as quickly as tinuous functioning, and wanted possible. that this aspect should be consid­ 7. The concept of properly prepared ered. district plan is reiterated. The preparation of a proper plan is pre-requisite for having a process STATEMENT-III of development which will ensure Main Recommendations ofC.V.K. Rao that the poor are properly taken Committee Relating to Panchayati Rai care of. All the development de­ partments should clearly indicate Institutions the activities which they would undertake for assisting the poor. 1 Panchayati Raj Institutions have to be activised and given all the sup­ 8. The district plan should include all port needed so that they can be­ the resources available both in the come effective organisations for plan and non-plan as well as insti­ handling people's problems. Elec­ tutional resources. tions to these bodies should be held regularly. 9. The Committee is of the view that development administration at the 2. The Committee recommended a 3- district level has to be treated as a tier structure for Panchayati Raj In­ major activity involving significant stitutions. responsibilities and therefore, rec­ 3. The district should be the basic ommends that a post of District Development Commissioner unit for policy planning and pro­ (DDC) be created to look after and gramme implementation. The Zila coordinate all the development ac­ Parishad should, therefore, become the principal body for manage­ tivities in the district. ment of all development pro­ 10. The DDC may be made the Chief grammes which can be handled at Executive of the Zila Parishad in that level. 79 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 80

those states where the Panchayati be grouped and unlarged in order Raj institutions hold the responsi­ to make for more viable village bility for planning and implemen­ panchayats. tation of various development programmes. 2. The Panchayati Raj Institutions have to be viewed as institutions 11. In those states where Zila Parishad of self-government which would are not in position, the DDC could naturally facilitate the participation function as Chairman and Chief of the people in the process of Executive of the District Develop­ planning and development flowing ment Council. from and as part of the concept of self government. Development 12. The office of the DDC should be of planning should be democratic a higher status than that of the planning. District Collector in order to es­ tablish the primary of the Devel­ 3. The operational dynamics of Pan­ opment administration over main­ chayati Raj should be directed to tenance administration. achieve community and social mo­ bilisation, transcending the barri­ 13. The Committee recommends that ers of caste, religion, sex and dis­ the Block Development Office parities of wealth and surmounting should be the sheet-anchor of the social disabilities and disadvan­ entire rural development process. tages. For this purpose the status of this 4. Local self-government should be office should be upgraded. The constitutionally recognised, pro­ Chief Executive Officer of the tected and preserved by the inclu­ block/tahsil may be designated as sion of a new chapter in the Con­ Assistant Development Commis­ stitution. sioner (ADC). The ADC should be an officer of the status of Sub-Divi­ 5. A Panchayati Raj - Judicial Tribunal sional Officer. to be constituted in each State to 14. The ADC should be a dynamic adjudicate controversies in relation young person, preferably below to elections, suspensions, supers­ the age of 35 and in any case not essions, dissolutions, and other above 40. His background, train­ matters relating to the working of ing, managerial capability and mo­ Panchayati Raj institutions and its tivation should be appropriate for elected personnel. the task as the leader of a team 6. Ways and means should be found which will be incharge of all de­ to ensure the availability of ade­ velopment functions in the block. quate financial resources of Pan­ 15. On the basis of certain criteria of chayati Raj institutions to function population, area and terrain, aver­ effectively. age size of the block may be one lakh population in the plains and STATEMENTS 50,000 population in the hilly and Main Recommendations o f the SarkarJa difficult terrain and tribal areas. Commission Relating to Panchayati Raj Institutions STATEMENT-IV The Sarkaria Commission has inter-alia Main Recommendations of Dr. Singhvi made following recommendations relating Committee for the Concept Paper on Pan­ to Panchayati Raj Institutions:- ^ ^ chayati Raj Institutions £p rectify the dysfunctjonin^fof the local 1. Villages may be reorganised and self-governing bodies it jjs necessary to en­ many of them may in the process sure by legal provisions analogous to those 81 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0,1910(SAM) Written Answers 82

' in Articles 172 and 174 of the Constitution STATEMENT-VI /that elections to and sessions of Zila i Parishads and Municipal Corporations jfe' Recommendations of Thungon Committee I held regularly and these institutions do not relating to Panchayati Raj Institutions I remain superseded for long periods^ The ! power of enaction of such a law vests under 1. Panchayati Raj bodies should be Entry 5, List II exclusively in the State Legis­ constitutionally recognised. latures. Nevertheless, uniformity in these aspects of the law throughout the territory of India is essential. This uniformity can be 2. A three-tier structure of Panchayati secured by adopting, in the following order Raj with Village Panchayat at the of preference, any of the alternatives given bottom, district panchayat at the below:- top and mandal block panchayat in the middle, has been recom­ (i) By laws with respect to this mended where it does not already matter made by all the State exist. Legislatures in accordance with a model Bill prepared on the 3. The Sub-Committee is in favour of basis or consensus at the fo­ a model with the Zila Parishad as rum of the Inter-State Council the only planning and develop­ (Inter-Governmental Council), ment agency in the district. recommended by us to be es­ tablished under Article 263. 4. The Sub-Committee also suggests the setting up of a Planning and (ii) By a law on this subject made Coordination Committee at the by Parliament under Article State level under the Chairman­ 252(1) with the consent of the ship of the Planning Minister. Legislatures of all the States. Presidents of the Zila Parishad would be members of the Com­ (iii) By a Parliamentary law uni­ mittee. formly applicable throughout India containing provisions 5. The judicial functions of the village analogous to Articles 172 and panchayat are required to be re­ 174 of the Constitution. vived so that simple disputes can be sorted out at the village level it­ self. Adoption of alternative (i) or (ii) will not require any amendment of the Constitution. 6. The Committee has recommended However, as a condition precedent for that MPs and MLAs should be suit­ adopting alternative (iii), those aspects of ably associated with Zila Parishad. the matter which are analogous to Articles 172 and 174, will have to be carved out of 7. The elected member of the Zila the ambit of Entry 5, List II and transposed Parishad, in addition to members as a separate item to List III. like MPs, MLAs could as a general rule be 5 to 15 in areas with the We recommend that in order to ensure population of less than 15 lakhs that elections to sessions of Zila Parishads and 15 to 60 lakhs in areas with a and Municipal Corporations are held regu­ population of over 15 lakhs. larly and these institutions do not remain superseded for long period, any one of the 8. As regards the procedure for the alternatives, (i), (ii) and (iii) be pursued in approval of the District Plan, it has the order set out above. Recourse to alter­ been suggested that the District native (iii) may be had only as a last resort Planning and Coordination Com­ when attempts to follow alternative (i) and mittee of the Zila Parishad should (ii) fail, or are otherwise found infeasible. be well equipped and should be 83 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 84

able to draw upon the latest tech­ 14. It is recommended that as a rule nology including computer linking not less than two women should the district with the Divisional be members of Panchayati Raj Headquarters and the State Capi­ bodies at each level. In case of tal with a two-way querying sys­ bodies of small size with member­ tem. ship unto five, there would be only one place reserved for a woman member. 9. The suitable constitutional provi­ sion be made to ensure timely and 15. Collector/DC should be the piv­ regular elections. The elections otal point for both regulatory as could be conducted by the Chief well as development administra­ Electoral Officers of the State. tion. Collector should be the Chief Executive Officer of the Zila 10. In case of local body does not Parishad. The State Covemment function in accordance with law or should appoint officers of the rank grossly abuses its powers, it could of Additional Collectors to assist be suspended or dissolved by the the Collector in development and State Government. After any dis­ regulatory administration respec­ solution, the State Government tively. will have to bring a Resolution in the State Legislature before the 16. The Sub-Committee feels that a end of the session or within six detailed list of subjects to be dealt weeks of the commencement of with at the district level should be the session whichever is earlier for prepared and included in the cor­ approval by the House. In any responding should of the Constitu­ case, a body should not be super­ tion. seded for a period of more thaa six months. 17. It is recommended that State Cov­ emment should set up Finance 11. The term of Panchayati Raj bodies Commissions to lay down the cri­ should be for a period of 5 years. teria and guidelines whereby re­ However, the State Covemment sources would be allocated to the may choose the term depending districts. upon their requirements but this term may not be less than 3 years. 18. Funds should be allocated to the concerned departments like PWD, 12. It is recommended that a separate Irrigation, Public Health, Rural Wa­ Panchayati Raj Judicial Tribunal ter Supply, etc. through the Zila should be appointed by the State Parishad. Govts, to adjudicate controversies in matters which hamper the func­ 19. The Sub-Committee envisage a tioning of these institutions. District Budget where various schemes and projects required in a 13. It is recommended that the system district are to be taken into ac­ of reservation for all the three-tier count along with contingencies of Panchayati Raj bodies should be which have not figured in the dis­ as per population. In case of areas trict budget. with the tribal population of more than 30% the Chairman of the 20. A Constitutional provision could body should be a member from be made whereby regular and the Scheduled Tribes. Vice-Chair­ timely elections to local bodies manship of all the Panchayati Raj could be ensured and the various bodies should be reserved for a SC powers and functions of the&e or ST member. bodies delineated. 85 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 10, mO(SAKA) Written Answers 86

21. The Sub-Committee recommends [Translation) that the Government of India could also consider formulating a Reinstatement of DTC Employees model Panchayat Act. The States Removed from Service due to Strike could be requested to consider this model Act for adoption. 2811. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: Will 22. The Sub-Committee felt that the the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be Government of India could also pleased to state: promote Panchayati Raj institu­ tions by giving certain incentives (a) the total number of employees of to State Government, e.g. by way DTC removed from service due to strike in of increasing grants-in-aid with March, 1988; reference to financial and other powers devolved upon these insti­ (b) the number of employees out of tutions by the respective State them reinstated so far; Government. (c) the number of employees who could 23. The Central Government could or­ not be reinstated so far and the policy of ganise training programmes for Government in this regard; both officials and non-officials of local bodies so that they could be (d) whether bonus of employees who fully familiar with the potentialities were removed during the DTC strike in of these bodies for development 1987-88 has been withheld; and administration. (e) if so, the reasons therefor?

Mobile Libraries in Punjab THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN­ 2810. SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHRY: Will ISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI RA- the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DE­ JESH PILOT): (a) 3125 (Dismissed). VELOPMENT be pleased to state:

(a) whether there are mobile libraries in (b) and (c). Out of 2449 employees who Punjab; filed appeals to the Competent Authorities, 26 employees have been reinstated and the (b) if so, the details thereof; and appeals of 842 employees have been re­ jected. No final decision on the remaining (c) if not, the reasons therefor and appeals has been taken. Each appeal is whether Government propose to have mo­ considered on merits. Besides, a large bile libraries in Punjab as in Delhi? number of employees have filed petitions in the Supreme Court/High Court and Indus­ trial Tribunals. Hence the matter is also THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ sub-judice. PARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CUL­ TURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RE­ SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. (d) DTC have already announced pay­ SHAHI): (a) No, Sir. ment of ex-gratia as admissible to their em­ ployees including ex-employees for the year (b) Does not arise. 1987-88.

(c) No such proposal is under consider­ ation. (e) Does not arise. 87 Written Answers DECEMBER 1, 19 88 Written Answers 88

[English] be closed for traffic due to the development of Sariska Tiger Project; and Impact of Rural Development Programmes on Nutrition Status of (b) if so, the stretch of National Highway People proposed to be closed and the new route of 2812. SHRI H. B. PATIL: the highway proposed to be opened for SHRI ANANTA PRASAD SETHI: traffic?

Will the Minister of ACRICULTURE be THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN­ pleased to state: ISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI RA- (a) whether the rural development pro­ JESH PILOT): (a) No, Sir. grammes have made any significant impact on the nutrition standard of the people; (b) Does not arise.

(b) whether any survey has been con­ [English] ducted in this regard in tribal rural areas and urban slum areas; and UGC Grants to Garhwal University

(c) if so, the details thereof? 2814. SHRI LA LA RAM KEN: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVEL­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ OPMENT be pleased to state: PARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI (a) whether grants given by University JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) to (c). No Grants Commission to Carhwal University survey specifically to assess the impact of have been properly utilised; and rural development programmes on nutri­ tional standards of rural poor including (b) if not, the action taken in the matter? those in tribal areas has been conducted by this Ministry. The major rural development THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ programme are basically wage and self em­ PARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CUL­ ployment programmes aiming at improving TURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RE­ socio-economic status and improvement in SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. the overall quality of life of the rural poor. SHAHI): (a) The University Grants Com­ According to the Concurrent Evaluation mission has so far sanctioned a total grant Studies of IRDP (January to December, of Rs. 200.70 lakhs to the Garhwal Univer­ 1987), about 65% families had experienced sity for implementation of various pro­ an increase of more than 50% of their pre­ grammes during the VII Plan. Of this, a assistance income. It is expected that this grant of Rs. 100.03 lakhs has so far been increase in income must have resulted in released. The University has furnished in­ some improvement in the nutritional stan­ formation about a total expenditure of Rs. dards also. 49.28 lakhs so far. The Commission has not received any information of misutilisation of [Translation] any grant sanctioned by it.

Stretch of National Highway No. 8 (b) Does not arise. Proposed to be Closed for Sariska Tiger Brackish Water Fish Farmers Project Development Agency 2813. SHRIBANWARI LALBAIRWA: Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be 2815. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: Will the pleased to state: Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: (a) whether National Highway No. 8 (Delhi to Jaipur via Alwar), is proposed to (a) whether Government of Maharashtra 89 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 10,191 0(SAKA) Written Answers 90 has sent a proposal for setting up a Brackish dence Courses of Delhi University as well as Water Fish Farmers Development Agency in the results thereof? the State: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ (b) if so, the details of the project in­ PARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CUL­ cluding the financial aspect; and TURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RE­ SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L P.

(c) the time by which it is likely to be SHAHI): (a) to (e). The information is being cleared by Union Government? collected and will be laid on the Table of the House. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ PARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND CO­ Shipping Corporation of India's Feeder OPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRI­ Service in Bay of Bengal CULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) and (b). The Government of Maharashtra 2817. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL submitted a proposal for setting up a Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT Brackish Water Fish Farmers Development be pleased to state: Agency (BFDA) in Thane district to devel­ opment about 50 hectares of brackish water (a) whether the Shipping Corporation of area per year. The total estimated cost of India proposes to suspend its four-year old the BFDA as per the norms of the Govern­ feeder service in the Bay of Bengal; and ment of India is Rs. 49 lakhs. A beneficiary under the BFDA will be provided with a (b) if so, the reasons therefor? subsidy of 25% on the capital works and 100% on the cost of inputs for the first crop. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE M IN­ ISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI RA- (c) The BFDA for Maharashtra has been JESH PILOT): (a) No, Sir. sanctioned in November 1988. (b) Does not arise. Correspondence Course of Delhi University Demands made by Primary School Teachers 2816. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINCH: Will the Minister of HUMAN RE­ 2818. PROF. NARAIN CHAND SOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to PARISH AR: state: SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: (a) the percentage of successful candi­ dates in B.A. (Pass) Course 1st year, llnd Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE year and Fmal year of Correspondence DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: Course of Delhi University in 1987 and 1988 respectively; (a) whether a delegation of the All India Primary Teachers Federation presented a (b) whether the result of these classes Memorandum to the Hon'ble Prime Minis­ are rather poor ter on 16 November, 1988 at New Delhi’

(c) if so, the reasons therefor; (b) if so, the main demands presented in the Memorandum especially those relating (d) whether it is because the lessons etc to the implementation of the recommenda­ for this course are not sent regularly to the tions of the Chattopadhyaya Commission students; and including the extension in the age of retire­ ment; (e) the action proposed to be taken to improve the standard of the Correspon­ (c) whether any decision has been taken 91 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 92 by Government so far on some of these postulates of the National Policy on Educa­ demands as per recommendations of the tion, the Government revised the pay scales Commission which submitted its report in of school teachers on 12.8.1987. The Gov­ 1985; ernment has not favoured a single running scale as it would not be in the best interests (d) if so, the details thereof; and of maintaining the educational standards and may act as a disincentives to teachers acquiring higher qualifications. (e) if not, the reasons for delay and the likely date by which a decision would be 5. As far as the question of applying the taken? running scale or the scales sanctioned to the Central Government teachers, in re­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ spect of State Government teachers in con­ PARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CUL­ cerned the view of the Government of India TURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RE­ has been that uniformity in pay scales for SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. teachers all over the country would come SHAHI): (a) to (e). All India Primary Teach­ about over a period of time. Each State ers Federation had submitted a Memoran­ Govt, has well set arrangements for periodi­ dum dated 4.11.88 to the Prime Minister cally revising pay scales and connected mat­ seeking implementation of the recommen­ ters like the age of retirement etc. It is for dations of the Chattopadhyaya Commission. each State Govt, to take decisions and im­ The Federation had demanded implements-1 plement them accordingly. tion of the running pay scale as recom­ mended by the NCT-I, additional incre­ ments for acquiring higher qualifications, 60 National University of Electro Complex years of age of retirement for teachers and Homoeopathy, Kanpur teaching allowance, etc. 2819. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR 2. The Government issued orders on TRIPATHI: 12.8.87 for revising the pay scales of school SHRI GANGA RAM: teachers in the employment of Union Terri­ tories and Central Autonomous Bodies like Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangathan and Central DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: Tibetan Schools Administration, effective from 1.1.86. (a) whether a National University of Elec­ tro Complex Homoeopathy exists in K Block 3. The National Commission on Teach- Covindanagar, Kanpur-6, Uttar Pradesh; ers-l (NCT-I) has not recommended any specific pay scale for different categories of (b) if so, the name of the Chancellor and school teachers. However, NCT-I had rec­ the functions of this University; ommended an illustrative model of a com­ posite running pay scale for all categories of (c) has the university been approved by teachers and educational administrators, the University Grants Commission; ar.d starting from Rs. 500/- and going up to Rs. 3950/-. The Commission had also recom­ (d) if not, the action Government pro­ mended minimum benefit of Rs. 100/- and pose to take against this university for mis­ Rs. 150/- PM for secondary and primary guiding the innocent youth of the country? school teachers respectively. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ 4. The recommendations of NCT-I were PARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CUL­ considered by an Empowered Committee TURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RE­ constituted by the Ministry to examine the SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. recommendations. In the light of the rec­ SHAHI): (a) to (d). The University Grants ommendations of the NCT-I, the report of Commission Act, 1956, provides that the the IV Central Pay Commission as also the right of conferring or granting degrees shall 93 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 10; 1910(SA/C4) Written Answers 94 be exercised only by a University estab­ (a) whether Government are aware of lished or incorporated by or under a Central the reports from the Food and Agriculture Act or a State Act or an institution deemed Organisation, the Consultative Group on In­ to be university under section 3 of the Act or ternational Agricultural Research and re­ an institution specially empowered by an search organisations like the Worldwatch Act of Parliament to confer or grant degrees. Institute in Washington, warning the third Under the UCC Act, a Provincial Act or a world countries against the possible take­ State Act is entitled to have the world over of farming by the multi-nationals and "University" associated with its name. The also the world-wide concern against in­ so-called National University of Electro creasing privatisation of agricultural re­ Complex Homoeopathy functioning from search; and Kanpur does not fall under any of the cate­ gories provided in the Act and is not, (b) if so, whether Government have con­ therefore, empowered to award degrees. It sidered these reports in the context of the has been intimated by the University Grants impact on the role of the Indian agricultural Commission that they have taken action scientists engaged on farm research before under the provisions of the UGC Act to di­ giving clearance to the Pepsico Project. rect the institution to delete the word uni­ versity and to stop awarding degrees. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN­ ISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES Charter of Demands by All India Federa­ (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) and (b). No, tion of Diploma Engineers Sir. However, the foreign collaboration en­ visaged in Punjab-Pepsi Proposal is an inte­ 2820. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL: grated project including establishment of an Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE Agro-Research Centre. This would develop DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: links between research, farm level produc­ tion and processing facilities. The basic re­ (a) whether All India Federation of search being carried out by scientists in the Diploma Engineers had submitted a charter Agricultural Universities and other research of demands about two months back; stations will, in no way, be affected since the Agro-Research Centre will specifically (b) if so, the details thereof; focus its attention on the development of high yielding varieties of fruits and vegeta­ (c) the reaction of Government thereto; bles suitable for processing. This will act in and coordination with Punjab Agricultural Uni­ versity, Ludhiana, and I.C.A.R. (d) the measures, if any, contemplated to meet the demands of the Diploma engi­ neers? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ Filling up of Posts by Central Hindi PARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CUL­ Directorate TURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RE­ SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. 2822. SHRI S. THANCARAJU: Will the SHAHI): (a) to (d). The relevant informa­ Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVEL­ tion is being collected from the concerned OPMENT be pleased to state: Departments and will be laid on the table of the House. (a) whether about 15,000 students are learning Hindi through correspondence Reports Warning third World Countries courses from the Central Hindi Directorate against Privatisation of Agricultural of which half have been Tamil medium stu­ dents; Research £821. SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI (b) whether 26 new posts have been KHAty: Will the Minister of FOOD PRO­ created to cater to these Tamil medium stu­ CESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: dents who do not know English; and 95 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 96

(c) if so, the number of Tamil knowing emphasis and themes over time in the persons appointed against these posts, cat­ Indian Cinema. The other documentary will egory-wise? look at and analyse various aspects of the Indian film industry today. The two docu­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ mentaries which seek to inform and enter­ PARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CUL­ tain will impart an awareness of the impor­ TURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RE­ tance of the film medium in India to people SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. in UK and also other countries. Our mis­ SHAHI): (a) No, Sir. Out of the total en­ sions abroad periodically organise film festi­ rolment of 14,200 students, only about 30% vals to interest people and media there in are Tamil medium students in the current Indian films. session. For both these documentaries BBC have, (b) No, Sir. The posts were created for inter alia, interviewed the following Produc­ all medium courses and not for Tamil ers/Music Directors/Actors/ Actresses and medium course alone. others in the Cinema industry.'

(c) In view of (a) and (b) above, the Aamir Khan, Amjad Khan, Annu Malik, question does not arise. Asha Chandra (Ms), Ashok Kumar, B.R. Chopra, Dimal Agarwal, Bunny Ruoben, BBC Shootings on Indian Cinema Callin Pal, Dev Anand, Dilip Kumar, Feroze Khan, G. Venkateswaran, Homi Wadia, 2823. SHRI PRATAPRAO B. BHOSALE: Hrishikesh Mukherji, Jairaj, Kedar Sharma, Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be Krishna Swamy, Mandakini Phalke (Ms), pleased to state: Mahesh Bhatt, Meenakshi (Ms), N. Chan­ dra, Nadim, Naseeruddin Shah, Nassir Hus­ (a) whether a B.B.C. television team has sain, Naushad, Rajendra Kumar, Rajesh done certain shootings on Indian Cintma Khanna, Ravindra Jain, Ramesh Sippy, Salim recently; Khan, Saraj Khan (Ms), Shammi Kapoor, Shapur Irani, Shekhar Kapoor, Sunil Dutt, (b) if so, in what context these shootings Tanuja (Ms), Tarak Nath Gandhi, Uday Rao have been done by the BBC television team; Kavi, Vinod Chopra and Zeenat Amman (Ms). (c) whether certain film-makers of Indian Cinema, of International repute, have been National Institute of Disaster interviewed by the team; Management

(d) if so, the details thereof; 2824. SHRI SRIHARI RAO: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to (e) how the Indian Cinema will be bene­ state: fited through these shootings; and (a) whether Government have finalised (f) the steps Government propose to the location for setting up the National take to attract other foreign television teams Institute ot Disaster Management; towards Indian cinema? (b) if so, the details thereof; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN­ ISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI K. (c) whether Government of Andhra NATWAR SINGH): (a) to (f). BBC Network Pradesh had approached and assured the East have recently shot two documentaries Union Government that the required land of one hour duration each on Indian Cin­ and other facilities will be made available for ema to celebrate its 75th anniversary. One establishing the Institute in Andhra Pradesh; documentary will deal with the evolution of and Indian Cinema from the first film in 1913 to the present day and trace the changes in (d) if so, the decision taken thereon? 97 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 10# 1910(SMA) Written Answers 98

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ (c) if so, the field in which the agreement PARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND CO­ has been made; and OPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRI­ CULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) to (d) the details thereof? (d). The proposal for establishment of the National Institute for Disaster Management THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN­ has been deferred for the present. ISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI K. NATWAR SINCH): (a) Covemment have Portraits of National Leaders in Indian concluded during the last six months an High Commission Office London Agreement between the Covemment of the Republic of India and the Covemment of 2825. DR. DATTA SAMANT: Will the the Mongolian People's Republic on Coop­ Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased eration in the Fields of Science and Tech­ to state: nology which was concluded on July 14, 1988. (a) whether it is a fact that Portraits of Lokmanya Tilak and Shivaji were dumped in (b) No, Sir. the basement of India House in Indian High Commission office at London for the last (c) Does not arise. seven years as mentioned in the news item appearing in 'The Kesari' on 22 September, (d) Does not arise. 1988; and

(b) if so, the reasons thereof? [English]

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN­ Association of M.Ps. with Implementation ISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI K. of Rural Development Programmes NATWAR SINCH): (a) and (b). Some por­ traits of national leaders are continuously 2827. DR. PHULRENU CUHA: Will the displayed in the Reception/Conference Hall Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to of the High Commission of India in London. state: The portraits of Shivaji and Lokmanya Tilak had recently been removed for repairs and (a) whether Members of Parliament be­ restoration. The restoration and rectifica­ longing to all parties are associated in the tion of damage of portraits are undertaken implementation of the schemes such as periodically. These portraits will be dis­ IRDP, NREP, RLECP etc. in the States; played again as soon as the repair work is complete. (b) whether Government are aware of the complaint that some Members of Par­ [Translation] liament in certain States are not associated with the implementation of these Schemes; Agreements with Foreign Countries for and Technology (c) if so, the steps taken in this regard? 2826. SHRI KRISHAN PRATAP SINCH: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ pleased to state: PARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI (a) the details of the agreements con­ JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) As per the cluded with foreign countries in the field of guidelines issued from the Central Govern­ technology during the last six months; ment, District Rural Development Agencies (DRDAs) are responsible for the Implemen­ (b) whether any agreement with Japan tation of the Integrated Rural Development has also been concluded; Programme (IRDP) and National Rural Em­ Written Answers 100 99 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988

ployment Programme (NREP). All the Cost Over-run in Halclia Fertilizer Project Members of Parliament are members of the Governing Body of the concerned DRDAs. 2829. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: Will the The Governing Body is a deliberative body Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to and as such is responsible for overseeing state: the implementation of the IRDP and NREP. So far as the Rural landless Employment (a) the main reasons for the cost over­ Cuarantee Programme (RLEGP) is con­ run in the case of Haldia Fertilizer Project; cerned, its implementation rests with the and State Departments of Rural Development. (b) the steps taken to complete the pro­ (b) and (c). Whenever any complaint ject without further cost escalation? from an Hon'ble Member of Parliament is received, the State Governments are ad­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ vised that the development administration PARTMENT OF FERTILIZERS IN THE MIN­ at the district level should always endeavour ISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI R. to benefit from the experience and advice of PRABF-IU): (a) The project was mechani­ the Members of Parliament by inviting them cally completed in November, 1979 after a to the meetings of the DRDAs for which delay of nearly three years as against the sufficient notice should be given. original schedule of October, 1976. As the West Bengal State Electricity Boardk could not supply the promised power, investment Youth Hostels in Andhra Pradesh had to be made in a gas turbine power plant which was commissioned in January, 2828. SHRI S. PALAKONDRAYUDU: 1982. : wever, due to repetitive break­ Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE down c wjor equipment, the project could DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: not be commissioned and commissioning had to be given up in October, 1986. Delay (a) the number of youth hostels at pre­ in its commissioning resulted in higher de­ sent in Andhra Pradesh and their locations; partmental and financing charges, besides higher commissioning expenses on raw ma­ (b) whether there is any proposal to terials, fuel, power, etc. over a long period. construct more youth hostels in Andhra Pradesh during 1988-89; and (b) Since all attempts at commissioning (c) if so, the details thereof and the the project failed, it does not appear feasi­ amount sanctioned for that purpose? ble to complete the project without further cost escalation. An additional investment of about Rs. 500 crores has been recom­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ mended by the foreign consultants ap­ PARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS AND pointed by Government for its end-to-end SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD DE­ survey for recommissioning it and enabling VELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF HU­ it to run at the rated capacity. MAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRIMATI MARCARET ALVA): (a) to (c). SC/ST Quota for Fertilizer Dealerships One youth hostel is functioning at Secun­ derabad. The youth hostel at Tirupati ap­ 2830. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALUCK: Will proved during 1985-86 is under ^construc­ the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to tion. An amount of Rs. 12,87,475 plus de­ state: partmental charges of 12% has been sanc­ tioned of which 10 lakhs rupees released to (a) whether Government have reserved the CPWD for Tirupati. The construction of any quota for giving agencies/dealerships youth hostel at Vishakhapatnam has also c u fjerti*izers t0 persons belonging to been approved and the CPWD has been Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes; asked to prepare preliminary estimates. and 101 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(£4/C4) Written Answers 102

(b) if so, the number of persons allotted and Rural Landless Employment Cuarantee dealerships during the last one year, State- Programme of Orissa State during the year wise? 1988;

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE (b) whether the quota of rice and wheat PARTMENT OF FERTILIZERS IN THE MIN­ was reduced during the above period; and ISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI R. PRABHU): (a) Yes, Sir. The public sector (c) if so, the steps taken by Union Cov­ undertakings under the administrative con­ emment to ensure supply of sufficient food­ trol of Department of Fertilizers were ad­ grains for implementation of NREP and vised to reserve 25% of fertilizer dealerships RLECP in Orissa? for Scheduled Caste/Scheduled Tribe can­ didates. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ (b) Information is being collected and PARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT IN will be laid on the table of the House. THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) Distribution Supply of Foodgrains for NREP and RLEGP of foodgrains under National Rural Employ­ ment Programme (NREP) and Rural Landless 2831. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS: Will Employment Cuarantee Programme the Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to* (RLECP) has been restricted to 1.5 kg. per state: manday w.e.f. 1st April, 1988. Based on this requirement, the quantities of rice and (a) the quantum of rice and wheat sup­wheat allocated and released to Govern­ plied vis-a-vis the requirement per quarter ment of Orissa under NREP and RLEGP for National Rural Employment Programme during the year 1988-89 are as under: -

Allocation (MTs) Released (Upto 28,11.88)

Wheat Rice Wheat Rice

NREP 14260 14260 7130 7130

RLECP 9742 9743 5471 5471

The balance of allocated quantities are Regional Schemes for Supply, of likely to be released soon. Drinking Water in Maharashtra

(b) From 1st November, 1987 to 31st March, 1988 foodgrains under these pro­ 2832. SHRI BAN WAR I LAL PUROHIT: grammes were to be distributed to the PROF. RAMKRISHNAMORE: workers at the rate of 2.5 kg. per manday and prior to 1.11.87, atleast half the wages Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be of the workers were required to be laid in pleased to state: foodgrains. Naturally, the quantity of food­ grains released to Orissa as also other (a) whether the State Government of States during the current year is compara­ Maharashtra had submitted six regional tively less than the last year. schemes with a total cost estimated at Rs. 50 crores to augment supply of drinking (c) The quantity of foodgrains likely to water in the State; be released to the State during the year are sufficient to meet the requirement as per (b) whether the State Covemment has the prescribed scale. since sent the revised project costs of the Written Answers 104 103 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988

Reopening of Chinese Mission at Calcutta schemes and furnished other relevant de­ tails asked by the Ministry; 2834. SHRI C. MADHAV REDDY: SHRI PRAKASH CHANDRA: (c) if so, whether Union Covemment have since examined the schemes; and DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR TRIPATHI: (d) when the proposed schemes are SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH likely to be cleared? MALIK: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ be pleased to state: PARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI (a) whether Government of China have JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) Yes, Sir. recently approached Government of India to reopen their mission at Calcutta; (b) Yes, Sir. (b) if so, whether the permission has since been granted; (c) and (d). Out of six schemes submit­ ted by the Covemment of Maharashtra, 4 (c) if not, the reasons therefor? schemes have already been forwarded to the Ministry of Finance for consideration of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN­ financial assistance. ISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH): (a) A proposal exists for Letter from MPs Regarding Tibet Issue the re-establishment of Consulates Ceneral by India and China in each other's coun­ 2833. SHRI UTTAMBHAI H. PATEL: tries. The matter has been under discussion SHRI CHHITUBHAI CAMIT: between the two Governments. SHRIMATI PATEL RAMABEN RAMJIBHAI MAVANI: (b) and (c). Do not arise. SHRI RANJITSINGH CAEKWAD: Implementation of Scheme Under Q.P. Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS Flood-Ill in Karnataka be pleased to state: 2835. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will the (a) whether Government have received a Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to letter signed by more than 200 Members of state: Parliament dated 23 August, 1988 in con­ nection with Tibet Issue; (a) whether Covemment have received a scheme worth Rs. 125 crore under O.P. (b) if so, the details thereof;and Flood-Ill to be implemented in Karnataka;

(c) the actions taken by Government (b) if so, whether the National Dairy thereon? Development Board has given its clearance; (c) the central assistance proposed to be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN­ given under the above scheme; and ISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI K. NATW'AR SINGH): (a) Government have (cl) the time by which the above pro­ seen the letter to which the Question refers. posed scheme is likely to be implemented? (b) The letter expresses support for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ H.H. The Dalai Lama's 5-point Peace Plan. PARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND CO­ OPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRI­ (c) Government's reaction is based on CULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) the promise that Government regard Tibet No, Sir. Operation Flood Proposals are sent as an autonomous region of Chinar. by State to the National Dairy Development 105 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0,1910(SAM) Written Answers 106

Board (NDDB). Proposal for O.P.-III in Hindustan Copper Limited respect ot Karnataka with an outlay of Rs. 60.11 crore has been received by NDDB. 2837. SHRI V. SREENIVASA PRASAD: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be (b) NDDB would be undertaking ap­ pleased to state: praisal of Karnataka proposal in December, 1988 from the point of view of its feasibility (a) whether the'Hindustan Copper Lim­ and financial viability. ited has accumulated a huge stock of gold out of its copper mining and has not yet re­ (c) Govt, of India do not directly provide leased the material for commercial sale; any assistance to States under Operation Flood. (b) if so, the facts and details thereof;

(d) The programme would be imple­ (c) whether the company does not have mented through 1994. any definite policy in the matter; and

Reclamation of Saline Lands in Orissa (d) if so, the details thereof and action proposed to be taken in the matter so that 2836. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: Will the the Gompany does not suffer any financial Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to loss on this account? state: THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES (a) whether any scheme has been pre­ (SHRI M.L. FOTEDAR): (a) No, Sir. pared by Indian Council of Agricultural Re­ search to reclaim saline lands; (b) Does not arise.

(b) if so, the details thereof; and (c) and (d). At present the gold recov­ ered by Hindustan Copper Limited (HCL) as (c) whether Government propose to im­ a bye-product during the course of copper plement such scheme in Orissa which is vic­ production is made over to Covemment of tim of water logged saline lands? India Mint and compensation received by the Company in terms of a definite Pricing THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ Policy of the Government. PARTMENT OF AGRICULTURAL RESEARCH AND EDUCATION IN THE MINISTRY OF Losses in Arc Furnace Industry ACRICULTURE (SHRI HARI KRISHNA SHASTRI): (a) No, Sir. 2838. SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: (b) Scientists at the Central Soil Salinity Research Institute, Karnal and its regional (a) whether the arc furnace industry is station at Canning Town, West Bengal have incurring cash losses due to steep rise in developed technology for the reclamation of prices of imported and indigenous scrap saline lands. The components of this tech­ due to increase in prices of inputs and nology consist of mechanical measures for power rates; arresting ingress of sea water, leaching of saline lands with good quality water/rain (b) if so, the number of units closed water, efficient water management practices down in the last six months due to unviable and use of salt tolerant cultivars and crops. working; and Large scale reclamation of saline lands is the responsibility of the State Government. (c) whether Government propose to maintain reasonable level of prices of scrap (c) No, Sir. This may be taken up at the for industrial uses and to supply adequate State level by an appropriate agency. quantity of scrap? Written Answ m 108 107 Written Answm DECEMBER 1,1988

Kerala during the year 1987-88 and 1988- THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI M .L FOTEDAR): (a) The viability of 89; some mini steel plants in the country during (b) the amount actually released during the last few years has been somewhat poor due to their technological obsolescence. each year to each of the Vidyalayas; Mini steel plants have also represented re­ garding shortage of power and high prices (c) the amount spent by the Covemment of inputs. of Kerala for each Vidyalaya; and

(b) About 20 mini steel plants were re­ (d) whether there is a permanent moni­ ported to be closed due to financial, labour toring by Union Government in respect of or managerial problems and not due to the funds released to the State Covemment shortage of scrap. for the Navodaya Vidyalayas?

(c) Covemment plans to import ade­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ quate quantities of steel melting scrap dur­ PARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CUL­ ing 1988-89 to meet the requirements of the TURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RE­ industry. SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. SHAHI): (a) The average expenditure in re­ Amount Sanctioned for Navodaya spect of each Navodaya Vidyalaya varies, Vidyalayas in Kerala depending upon the number of classes functioning in the school. However, the 2839. SHRI A. CHARLES: Will the Minis­ following amounts have been sanctioned ter of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT during 1987-88 and 1988-89 by the Navo­ be pleased to state: daya Vidyalaya Samiti to various Vidyalayas opened during the years 1986-87, 1987-88 (a) the amount sanctioned by Govern­and 1988-89 per Vidyalaya as mentioned ment to each of the Navodaya Vidyalaya in below:-

During 1987-88 During 1988-89

(i) For Vidyalayas 10.70 14.80 opened during (per Vidyalaya) (per Vidyalaya) 1986-87

(ii) For Vidyalayas 7.50 11.35 opened during (per Vidyalaya) (per Vidyalaya) 1987-88

(iii) For Vidyalayas 8.20 opened during (per Vidyalaya) 1988-89

(b) As indicated in the statement below. Government of Kerala. However, there is a continuous monitoring of the funds released (c) and (d). The Navodaya Vidyalaya by the Navodaya Vidyalaya Samiti to various scheme is a centrally administered scheme Vidyalayas to ensure its proper utilisation and as such no amount is spent by the State for management of the Vidyalayas^ 109 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 10,1910(SAKA) Written Answers 110

STATEMENT

The actual funds released to Navodaya Vidyalayas in Kerala (Rs. in lakhs)

Funds released During 1987-88 During 1988-89 (upto Nov. 1988)

For Vidyalayas opened in 1986-87

1. Navodaya Vidyalaya, 12.26 7.50 Painavu, Idduki.

2. Navodaya Vidyalaya, 16.19 5.00 Mannadisala, Pathannamthitta.

3. Navodaya Vidyalaya, 10.57 9.35 Periya; Kasargod.

4. Navodaya Vidyalaya, 12.64 9.09 Nerimanglama, Ernakulam.

(ii) For Vidyalayas o»pened in 1987-88

1. Navodaya Vidyalaya, 10.25 6.75 Bhagvatpadapuri, Cannanore.

2. Navodaya Vidyalaya, 10.39 6.55 Paipad, Kottayam.

3. Navodaya Vidyalaya, 9.00 9.17 Palayad Badgara, Calicut.

(iii) For Vidyalayas opened in 1988-89

1. Navodaya Vidyalaya, 1.00 5.00 Mayannur, Trichur. (Advanced to DM for repairs/ renovations of temporary building on site)

2. Navodaya Vidyalaya, 1.00 5.00 Agali, Palaghat. -do-

3. Navodaya Vidyalaya, 2.00 5.00 Oorakam, Malappuram. -do-

[Translation] (a) whether there has been tremendous .. . increase in agricultural production due to Qua i y o Crops tlie uge improved seeds and fertilizers;

2840. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: (b) if so, the extent thereof; 111 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 112

(c) whether there has been considerable for Cultural Relations during the last three decline in quality and nutritional value of years; crops like wheat, barley, rice and potato, cauliflowers, brinjals etc. to the use of im­ (b) if so, the details thereof; and proved seeds and fertilizers; (c) the security measures taken by the (d) if so, the reasons thereof; Council to check such thefts?

(e) whether the quality and nutritional THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN- value of above crops and vegetables would ISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI 1C be kept in view; while developing new im­ NATWAR SINGH): (a) and (b). No, Sir, ex­ proved seeds and fertilizers; and cept for three aluminium ladders of a total book value of Rs. 1433.80. (f) if so, the steps proposed in this re­ gard? (c) It has been decided to put an iron fencing on two sides of the building along THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ the boundary wall and to raise the height of PARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND CO­ the boundary wall on the third side. The OPERATION IN THE MINISfRY OF ACRI­ boundary wall on the fourth side already has CULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) barbed wire fixed on it. Yes, Sir. The agricultural production has in­ creased due, inter-alia, to the use of im­ Implementation of Scheme for proved seeds and fertilizers. Propagation of Improved Rice Production in Kerala (b) With the introduction of High Yield­ ing Varieties Programme in 1966-67, the 2842. SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHO- production of foodgrains has increased from THAMAN: Will the Minister of 74.23 million tonnes in 1966-67 to 144.07 AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: million tonnes in 1986-87. The coverage of area under the High Yielding Varieties of (a) whether a scheme for propagation of seed increased from 1.89 million ha. in improved rice production technology is be­ 1966-67 to 56.12 million ha. in 1986-87. ing implemented in Kerala; Similarly the consumption of chemical fer­ tilizer increased from 11.00 lakh tonnes to (b) if so, the modalities being adopted 87.38 lakh tonnes during the same period. for propagation of the technology; and

(c) No, Sir. (c) the outcome of the scheme so far?

(d) Does not arise. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ PARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND CO­ (e) and (f). The quality and nutritional OPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRI­ value of the crops are kept in view in the CULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) Varietal Development Programme. Yes, Sir. A Central Sector Scheme of "Minikit Programme of Rice including Propagation of [English] New Technology" is being implemented in Kerala. Thefts in Indian Council For Cultural Relations (b) To popularise the cultivation of loca­ tion specific High Yielding Varieties of rice, 2841. SHRI RAj KUMAR RAI: Will the seed minikits of such newly Minirter of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased evolved/released varieties are distributed to state: amongst the farmers on nominal cost and for the popularisation of adoption of im­ (a) whether any valuable articles were proved rice production technology State stolen from the office of the Indiari Council level training programmes in improved rice 113 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SA/C4) Written Answers 114 production technology are organised for ex­ inter-alia for purposes of recruitment, tension workers involved in transfer of promotion and career advancement should technology. An assistance of Rs. 7200 is be adopted in I.C A R . provided to the organising institute/ univer­ sity for conducting one such training pro­ (b) The Committee submitted its report gramme for 30 participants. on the 17th July, 1987 to the President, ICAR. Following reliefs have been provided (c) With the implementation of the to the Scientists:- scheme and efforts made in this direction, cultivation of several location specific High (1) Interim relief at the rate of 20% of Yielding Varieties of rice have been popu­ the basic pay w.e.f. 1.4.1986. larised in the State and the coverage under such varieties has reached about 70 per (2) Payment of increased D.A. w.e.f. cent of the total rice area. 1.7.1986

Revision of Pay Scales of Agricultural (c) and (d). Covemment have decided Scientists that the U.G.C. package may be extended to ICAR Scientists engaged in teaching, re­ 2843. DR.A. K. PATEL: search and extension. The U.G.C. package s (hri m o h d . m a h f o o z a l i will have to be applied- without any alter­ KHAN: ation i.e. the recruitment qualifications, promotion policy and appointments at vari­ Will the Minister of ACRICULTURE be ous levels on All India Competitive bases pleased to state: etc. etc.

(a) the recommendations made by Dr. Production of Ragi M.V. Rao Committee on pay scales*and other amenities for the agricultural scien­ 2844. SHRI V. KRISHNA RAO: Will the tists; Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: (b) when the report was submitted to Covemment and the details of interim relief (a) the total production of Ragi in the provided to the agricultural scientists- country especially in Karnataka;

(c) the response of Covemment to each (b) whether there is an increase in the •of the recommendations; and production of Ragi in the country during the last three years; (d) the time by which the report is likely to be implemented? (c) if so, the details thereof; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ PARTMENT OF AGRICULTURAL RESEARCH (d) the steps taken to boost the produc­ AND EDUCATION IN THE MINISTRY OF tion of Ragi? ACRICULTURE (SHRI HARI KRISHNA SHASTRI): (a) Dr. M.V. Rao Committee rec­ ommended that out of the various pay THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ packages available, the University Grants PARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND CO­ Commission's scales of pay were by far the OPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRI­ most appropriate to be adopted for ICAR CULTURE (SHRI SHYAM IAI YADAV): (a) to system as a total package, subject to the (c). The production of ragi in Karnataka and condition that rules and regulations as appli­ in the country for the last four years is as cable to the University teachers including below:- Written Answers 116 115 Written Answers DECEMBER 1, 1988 (Thousand tonnes)

1984-85 1985-86 1986-87 1987-88 (provisional)

Karnataka 1267 1200 1470 1233

All India 2530 2518 2669 2325

During the last three years production of THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES ragi has been fluctuating mainly due to ad­ (SHRl M. L. FOTEDAR): (a) and (b). The tar­ verse weather conditions. However, during gets of production of SAIL plants for the the long term period of 1967-68 to 1986-87, year 1989-90 have not yet been finalised. the production of ragi in the country has shown a growth rate of 2.03 per cent per Progress of Work on National Highway annum. No. 12 in Kota District

(d) The steps taken to boost the produc­ 2846. SHRI JUJHAR SINGH: Will the tion of ragi are as follows: - Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (i) During 1988-89, under the Cen­ tral Scheme of Minikit Pro­ (a) the reasons for slow progress of work gramme of Millets,'a total of 113 on National Highway No. 12 between Dur- thousand seed minikits of ragi, rah village and Suket in Kota District; and including 30 thousand in Kar­ nataka, have been distributed to (b) the time by which the construction of the farmers. This programme has the stretch from Kota to the border of Mad­ helped to popularise ragi vari­ hya Pradesh is likely to be completed? eties like lndaf-5, lndaf-8, Indaf- 9, HR-911 and HR-374 in Kar­ THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN­ nataka. ISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI RA- JESH PILOT): (a) and (b). Four works have (ii) Also, the National Watershed been sanctioned for this stretch of National Development Project for rainfed Highway-12 between Durrah Village and agriculture to improve the pro­ Suket in Kota district. The slow Progress of ductivity of dry land crops in­ work is mainly due to failure on the part of cluding ragi is being imple­ Contractors, problems arising in acquiring mented in 99 districts, including forest land and illegal dumping of mine 13 districts in Karnataka. waste on the roads. All these works are ex­ pected to be completed by middle of 1990.

Targets of Production for Steel Plants Repair of National Highway No. 31 Between O-Point Barauni and Purnia 2845. SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased 2847. SHRI MAHABIR PRASAD YADAV: to state: Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (a) whether any targets of production has been fixed for 1989 for various steel (a) whether Government are aware that plants; and the stretch of the National Highway No. 31 from O-Point Barauni to Purnia in Bihar is (b) if so, the details thereof? not in traffic worthy condition; and 117 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 10,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 118

(b) if so, the reasons therefor and the (b) and (c). Integrated Rural Develop­ steps proposed to be taken for its repair? ment Programme (IRDP) investment in­ cludes credit and subsidy. Per capita in­ THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN­ vestment and income under IRDP, among ISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI RA- other things, depend on the project chosen JESH PILOT): (a) and (b). This stretch of Na­ by the beneficiary for assistance and the in­ tional Highway No. 31 was badly damaged cremental capital output ratio of the project. due to unprecedented floods of 1987. In Average per family investment has increased order to restore the damaged stretches to for new families from Rs. 3811 in 1985-86 to pre-flood condition estimates for immediate Rs. 4470 in 1987-88. restoration and remedial measures, to the tune of Rs. 145 lakhs have so far been sanc­ Cold Storages and Refrigerated Transport tioned. The restoration works of immediate System Linking Fishing Harbours nature have already been completed. The works in respect of permanent remedial 2849. SHRI P. R. S. VENKATESAN: measures are being executed. SHRI K. PRADHANI: SHRI DAULATSINHJIJADEJA:

Will the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING Per capita Investment on Beneficiaries INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: Under IRDP (a) whether Government are aware that 2848. PROF. P. J. KURIEN: huge quantity of fish is thrown overboard by SHRI SRIBALLAV PANICRAHI: large trawlers due to lack of coldstorage and refrigerated transport facilities in coastal Will the Minister of ACRICULTURE be areas; pleased to state: (b) if so, whether there is any proposal (a) whether the per capita investment of for construction of coldstorages linking the beneficiaries under Integrated Rural Devel­ fishing harbours and also to provide refrig­ opment Programme is inadequate for gen­ erated transport system from major fishing erating sufficient income; centres; and

(b) whether Government propose to (c) if so, the details thereof, State-wise? raise the investment level; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN­ (c) if so, the details thereof? ISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) No, Sir. The THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ Fishing trawlers in the coastal areas do re­ PARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT IN tain shrimps, lobsters and high value fish THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI and throw only low value fish overboard JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) According to due to inadequate demand and lack of pro­ Concurrent Evaluation Report for January- cessing facilities. December, 1987 conducted through re­ puted research institutes in India, in about (b) Under the Centrally Sponsored 81% cases, beneficiaries found assistance Scheme, Government are setting up Fishery sufficient for acquiring the asset. According Industrial Estates in the Coastal areas by es­ to the same evaluation, additional income tablishing Ice & Coldstorage facilities, a mul­ generated from the asset was upto Rs. 500 tipurpose auction hall-cum-community Cen­ in 10% cases, it was between Rs. 501 and tre etc. Rs. 1000 in 17% cases. In about 24% cases the incremental income generated ranged (c) So far Fishery Industrial Estates have between Rs. 1001-2000 and in 27% cases been sanctioned at Muthayapalem in the incremental income was higher than Rs. Andhra Pradesh, Okha in Gujarat and Chu- 2000. damani in Orissa. 119 Written Answers DECEMBER 1, 1988 Written Answers 120

Drinking Water Problem in Coastal (b) whether Government have any pro­ Gujarat posal to add to the existing of languages recognised by the Akademi; and 2850. SHRI DAULATSINHJI JADEJA: Will the Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to (c) if so, the details thereof? state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ (a) whether Government are aware of PARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CUL­ the recurring drinking water problem in TURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RE­ coastal areas of Gujarat during summer SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L P. months, despite normal rainfall; SHAHI): (a) The Government of India gives grant to Sahitya Akademi for the develop­ (b) the remedial measures contemplated ment of Indian literature in all the 22 lan­ by Government to solve this perennial guages recognised by it. The allocation of problem; and funds is not made language-wise. The akademi tries to give equal importance and (c) the details of areas identified in representation to all the languages. How­ coastal Gujarat for installation of desalina­ ever, the year-wise break-up of the amount tion plants? spent by the Akademi during the last 3 years on the development of languages recog­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ nised by it is as follows:- PARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI 1985-86 Rs.24,48,682.16p JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) Yes, Sir. 1986-87 Rs.25,67,464.04p (b) The remedial measures taken up to solve this perennial problem include re­ 1987-88 Rs.27,07,161.53p gional/individual rural water supply schemes, construction of water conserva­ (b) No. At present the Sahitya Akademi tion structures, augmentation of water re­ has no proposal to add to the existing list of sources of the existing piped water supply languages recognised by the Akademi. schemes, installation of desalination plants in certain villages having brackish water, (c) Does not arise. etc.

(c) 17 desalination plants (7 in Jamnagar district, one each in Amreli, Kheda and Ba- Shrimp Fishing off Andhra Coast naskantha districts, two each in Bhavnagar and Surendranagar districts and three in 2852. SHRI T. BALA GOUD: Will the Kachch district) have already been installed. Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to It is planned to instal 17 additional desalina­ state: tion plants-13 in Jamnagar and 4 in Bhavna­ gar districts. (a) whether large number of boats have abandoned shrimp fishing off Visakhapat- Expenditure on Development of nam and are preparing to shift to Kerala Languages coast for lobster fishing;

2851. SHRI N. TOMBI SINCH: Will the (b) if so, the reasons for this change in Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVEL­ mid-season; OPMENT be pleased to state: (c) whether this will have direct effect on (a) the amount spent by Covemment for employment situation in Andhra Pradesh; the development of the languages recog­ and nised by the Sahitya Akademi during the last three years, year-wise and language-wise; (d) if so, the details thereof? 121 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(M/C4) Written Answers 122

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ (b) the number of schemes which have PARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND CO- been sanctioned and the total amount in­ OPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRI­ volved; and CULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) There are reports that some of the Visakha- (c) the number of schemes pending patnam based large shrimp trawlers have clearance and the reasons therefor? moved to fish deep sea lobster along the South-West Coast of India. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ PARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT IN (b) Deep sea lobster fishing season is be­ THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI tween November and May. JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) Government of Assam submitted 539 rural water supply schemes during the last 3 years and 190 (c) and (d). No such situation may arise schemes during the current year till date. as larger trawlers operate with regular set of crew wherever the vessels fish. (b) All the 539 schemes submitted during the last three years have been sanctioned at Discussion with U.S. Delegation Regarding an estimated cost of Rs. 45.17 crores. Patent Law Applicable to Food Processing Industries (c) In regard to 190 schemes received re­ cently for the current financial year, the 2853. SHRI INDRAJIT CUPTA: Will the State Government has been requested to Minister of FOOD PROCESSING INDUS­ give certain clarifications/additional infor­ TRIES be pleased to state: mation.

(a) whether a senior level U.S. official High Cost Raw Materials makes Foods delegation met him recently to discuss the Processing Uneconomic Patent Law applicable to the Food Process­ ing Industries. 2855. SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN SIN HA: Will the Minister of FOOD PRO­ (b) if so, the issues discussed during that CESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: meeting and (a) whether attention of Government (c) whether there is any proposal to has been drawn to the news-item captioned change the Patent Law of the country in Big house seek entry in processed food regard to the Food Processing industries? sector" appearing in the 'Economic Times' dated 8 November, 1988 wherein it has THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN­ been reported that high costs of raw mate­ ISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES rials makes food processing in the country (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) No, Sir. uneconomic as compared to international prices; (b) Does not arise in view of (a) above. (b) if so, the reaction of the Government (c) No such proposal is pending. thereto;

Rural Water Supply Schemes from Assam (c) whether a number of big business houses have shown interest in this field jf 2854. SHRI BHADRESHWAR TANTI: some of the irritants are removed; and Will the Minister of 'AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: (d) if so, the details in this regard?

(a) the number of Rural Water Supply THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN­ Schemes submitted by Government of As­ ISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES sam during the last three years and the cur­ (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) and (b). Yes, rent year till date; Sir. In order to ensure proper development Written Answers 124 123 Written Answers DECEMBER 1, 1988 of the food processing sector, Government Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVEL­ have announced an economic package in­ OPMENT be pleased to state: volving fiscal measures, inclusion of a large number of items under OGL, provision of (a) whether the Reservation Rosters for excise concessions permission to enter into Scheduled Castes/Scheduled Tribes are foreign collaboration on liberal terms etc. being maintained properly in the headquar­ ters office of Archaeological Survey of India, The food processing sector has been New Delhi and in its regional offices; given a high priority status for credit and banking. In order to ensure an assured (b) whether a large number of Groups B, supply of raw materials the State Govern­ C and D reserved posts are being forward ments have been advised to consider:- for the last several years; and

(i) command area concept; (c) if so, the number of such posts of (ii) plantation crop concept; and each category carried forward during the (iii) forming of rural cooperative. last three years?

(c) and (d). M/s. Zuari Agro Chemicals Limited, Goa has submitted an application THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ for setting up of a 100% export oriented unit PARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CUL­ in Sirmur, Himachal Pradesh for the manu­ TURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RE­ facture of canned button mushrooms, veg­ SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. etables etc. which has been approved. SHAHI): (a) Reservation Rosters for Sched­ uled Castes/Scheduled Tribes are being M/s. Goetze (I) Limited, Faridabad who maintained properly in the headquarters of­ have received orders for export of pineap­ fice of Archaeological Survey of India, New ple slices/canned pineapple have applied Delhi. Information regarding Circle/Branch for an advance licence for import of empty offices of the Survey is being collected from cans for packing the pineapple product. these offices and the same will be laid on This application is under consideration. the Table of the House as soon as possible.

Reservation Rosters for SC/ST in A.S.I. (b) and (c). Information in respect of 2856. SHRI SITARAM J. GAVALI: Will the Groups B & C is given below:-

Group No. of reserved posts carried forward in the last three years

1985 1986 1987 'B' Nil Nil Nil 'C' 5 9 6

Regarding Group D posts, information is (a) whether any proposal has been re­ being obtained from Circle/Branch offices of ceived from the Paradip Port Trust for pro­ the Survey and will be laid on the Table of viding adequate financial assistance for the the House. improvement of the existing iron-ore berths and ore handling plant at that port; and Financial Assistance for Improvement of Existing Iron-ore Berths and Ore (b) if so, the details of financial assistance Handling Plant at Paradip Port provided therefor?

2857. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANICRAHI: Will y^E MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN- the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be ISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI RA- pleased to state: JESH PILOT): (a) and (b). A proposal has 125 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SA/C4) Written Answers 126 been received from M/s. Hyundai Corpora­ Pricing Policy on Fertilizers tion of South Korea for development of Paradip Port with requisite facilities for han­ 2859. SHRI CURUDAS KAMAT: Will the dling vessels of upto 1,70,000 DWT. The Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to preparation of Detailed Project Report has state: been entrusted to M/s. Hyundai Corpora­ tion. (a) whether Covemment propose to make certain changes in the pricing policy Export of Pineapples to West European of fertilizers so that the fertilizer producing Countries units especially in the public sector do not lose financially; and 2858. SHRI V. TU LSI RAM: Will the Min­ ister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to state: (b) if so. the details thereof?

(a) whether there is any proposal under THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ consideration of Union Covemment to ex­ PARTMENT OF FERTILIZERS IN THE MIN­ port pineapples to West European coun­ ISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI R. tries; PRABHU): (a) and (b). This matter is con­ stantly under review by Government. No (b) if so, the countries to which pineap­ decision has yet been taken. ples are likely to be exported; Bilateral Relations with Maldives (c) the foreign exchange expected to be earned; and 2860. SHRI MANIK REDDY: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased (d) the extent to which such an export to state: would adversely affect the domestic avail­ ability of pineapple? (a) the details of India's bilateral rela­ tions with Maldives;

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ (b) the areas of cooperation with Mal­ PARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND CO­ dives and the specific achievements so far, OPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRI­ and CULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) to (d). As per current Import-Export Policy, (c) whether a passport and visa is re­ Export of pineapples are allowed on de-con- quired by Indians to visit Maldives? trolled basis. The current annual production of pineapples in the country is about 0.8 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE M IN­ million tonnes while Export: of pineapples ISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI K. fresh and dried has been only as under, thus NATWAR SINGH): (a) Relations between constituting no adverse effect on domestic the Maldives and India are marked by availability of pineapples: warmth and cordiality.

(b) During Prime Minister's visit to Mal­ Qty. in Tonnes dives in February 1986 specific argas of co­ Value in Rs. lakhs operation were identified. These include the establishment of a 200 bed hospital in Male; use of INSAT for inter atoll communi­ Year M.Ts Value cation, reception of meteorological data and Doordarshan programmes; preservation 1983-84 223 13.23 and restoration of the historic Hukuru 1984-85 227 13.04 Mosque; holding of an Indian trade exhibi­ 1985-86 478 32.97 tion in Maldives and enhanced training fa­ cilities for Maldivian candidates. These Written Answers 128 127 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988

projects/programmes are under implemen­ Power Corporation (NTPC) do not produce tation. aluminum conductors. However, they pro­ cure conductors to lay transmission lines (c) There is no visa requirement for from conductor manufacturing units who Indians visiting Maldives. have been allocated metal as per approved guidelines. Drilling Machines for Drinking Water (b) Does not arise. 2861. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to Policy in allowing Acquisition of Vessels state: 2863. SHRI RADHAKANTA DIGAL: Will (a) whether powerful drilling machines the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be and various equipments for drinking water pleased to state: are being received from foreign agencies to combat drought; (a) the policy of Government in allowing acquisition of Vessels; (b) if so, whether any machines has been allotted to Madhya Pradesh, and (b) whether Government are allowing Shipping companies to acquire fishing Ves­ (c) if so, the details thereof? sels; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ (c) if so, the details thereof including the PARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT IN norms fixed therefor? THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) Under THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN­ UNICEF Assistance Programme twelve (12) ISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI RA- All terrain rigs are likely to be received for JESH PILOT): (a) Any person who fulfils the deployment in drought affected States. requirement of Section 21 of Merchant Shipping Act 1958 can apply to Government (b) Yes, Sir. for acquisition of vessels. Permission to ac­ quire vessels is given taking into considera­ (c) Two All terrain rigs have already been tion the need for the vessels and, in the deployed in Madhya Pradesh. case of second hand vessels, also the age of the vessel, the reasonableness of the price Aluminium Quota for NTPC Projects etc.

2862. SHRI AjITSINH DABHI: (b) and (c). Any Indian company includ­ SHRIMATI USHATHAKKAR: ing a shipping company can acquire deep SHRI PUNAMCHAND sea fishing vessel. Shipping companies can MITHABHAI VENKAR: apply on prescribed form to the Ministry of Food Processing Industries for issue of au­ Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES thorisation to import vessel. be pleased to state: The Government allow acquisition of (a) whether National Thermal Power deep sea fishing vessels through general Corporation Projects producing aluminium import, indigenous construction and under conductors clo not get full requirement of 100% export oriented scheme. Acquisition aluminium; and of deep sea fishing vessel is also allowed to joint venture company for operation in (b) if so, the details thereof? Indian waters. In case of general import scheme, entrepreneurs have to acquire one THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES vessel indigenously against the import of (SHRI M. L. FOTEDAR): (a) National Thermal two vessels (pari passu condition). In case 129 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(S4/C4) Written Answers 130

of 100% export oriented scheme this condi­ ation Flood. Milk forms one of the major tion is not applicable. sources of income for the farm families. After meeting house-hold requirements, the Supply of Substandard Seeds to Madhya members of village cooperative societies Pradesh deliver the balance quantity of milk to the societies. The price paid to milk producers 2864. SHRI PARASRAM BHARDWAJ: Will by the Sabarkantha Milk Union compares the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to well with the area has shown that better state: prices combined with input services have attracted more farmers, over the years, to (a) whether the Kisap Cell of Madhya join the cooperative societies. Pradesh has submitted a memorandum al­ leging that sub-standard seeds have been Increasing Production of Sugarcane supplied by the Cooperative agencies to the Madhya Pradesh during the last three years; 2866. SHRI CHI-NTAMANI JENA: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to (b) if so, the details thereof; and state:

(c) the reaction of Union Government (a) whether Scientist of Hindustan Lever thereon? Research Centre (HLRC) have established that the use of photosynthetic improver THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ Mixtalol enhances the scope of increasing PARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND CO­ the yield of sugarcane and sugar recovery; OPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRI­ CULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) (b) whether any field trial has been con­ No, Sir. ducted in the country;

(b) and (c). Question does not arise. (c) if so, the details thereof; and (d) the steps taken to popularise this International Hunger Project for Tribals method to increase the production of sugar­ 2865. SHRI P. R. KUMARAMANCALAM: cane? Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ PARTMENTS OF AGRICULTURAL RE­ (a) whether the International Hunger SEARCH AND EDUCATION IN THE MIN­ Project has been started for tribals in Bayod ISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI HARI Taluka of Sabarkantha district, Gujarat to KRISHNA SHASTRI): (a) Yes, Sir. eradicate hunger, disease and infant mortal­ ity; and (b) Yes, Sir.

(b) whether Government propose to (c) The application of Mixtalol in sugar­ stop collection and export of milk from this cane crop has been evaluated at many Sug­ area to save the tribals? arcane Research Stations viz., Sehore in Madhya Pradesh; Pusa in Bihar; Pantnagar THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ in Uttar Pradesh; Padegaon in Maharashtra PARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND CO­ and Anakapallie in Andhra Pradesh under All OPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRI­ India Coordinated Project on Sugarcane. CULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) Only limited improvements in yield and su­ State Government of Gujarat have informed crose content were recorded in sugarcane that no such project has been undertaken in crop at some of the centres. In general, the Bayod Taluka of Sabarkantha District. results of use of Mixtalol in improving sug­ arcane yield and recovery have not been (b) No, Sir. Bayod Taluka as part of recorded to be quite beneficial from all the Sabarkantha District is covered under Oper­ research centres. Written Answers 132 131 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988

Coconut Plantation along Coast of Orissa (cl) Coconut Development Board has re­ and Gujarat quested the State Covemment to transfer ten hectares of land for implementation of a 2867. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA: Will pilot project for raising coconut plantation the Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to in the coastal saline area around the Gulf of state: Khambat.

(a) the states which are suitable for co­ conut production; Production of Mica (State-wise)

(b) whether any experiment has been 2868. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: Will made to grow coconut trees along the sea the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be coast of Orissa and Gujarat; pleased to state:

(c) if so, the results thereof; and (a) the names of the States which are famous for mica mines and the production (d) whether Government propose to of mica annually in those States; grow coconut trees on large scale along Gujarat sea coast? (b) whether a large quantity of mica is being exported; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ PARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND CO­ (c) if so, the quantity exported during the OPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRI­ last three years, year-wise and the foreign CULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) exchange earned; and The States suitable for coconut production are Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Andhra (cl) the steps being taken by Government Pradesh, West Bengal, Orissa, Maharashtra, to increase the production of mica to meet Assam, Tripura, Bihar, Madhya Pradesh and the indigenous demand and also to boost Manipur and Union Territories of Andaman the export? and Nicobar Islands and Lakshadweep. THE MINISTER OF STEFL AND MINES (b) and (c). Coconut Development (SHRI M. L. FOTEDAR): (a) Bihar, Rajasthan Board under the area expansion scheme has and Andhra Pradesh are the major mica pro­ brought 450.40 hectares under coconut cul­ ducing states in India. Annual production of tivation in Orissa besides planting of three mica in these States during the last three lakh seedlings along canal embankments. years was as under:

Qty. in Tonnes

Year Bihar Rajasthan Andhra Pradesh

1985 4089 1036 2203

1986 4098 1222 2199

1987 5283 2650 2614

(b) Yes, Sir. Export of mica and mica products and 133 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SA/C4) Written Answers 134 the foreign exchange earned are as under. tracted out of old dumps which are not re- The export figures include some mica ex- fleeted in the production figures.

Export* Qty. in Tonnes Value in Rs. crores

1985-86 34,550 39.55

1986-87 33,760* 45.36*

1987-88 32,320* 46.52*

(* Provisional)

(d) The following steps have been taken added mica products is being en­ by the Covemment to increase production couraged. and export of mica:- 8) Mica Trading Corporation 1) Geological Survey of India have (MITCO) is planning to set up an been investigating for location of R & D Centre for carrying out both mica bearing pegmatites. basic and applied research activi­ ties on mica. 2) Technical Consultancy assign­ ments have been taken up by In­ Registration of Indians in Gulf Countries dian Bureau of Mines in mica fields with Indian Embassies for locating mica pegmatites and for scientific development of 2869. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- mines. CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of EX­ TERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: 3) A research project covering geo­ logical, structural, petrominer- (a) whether the Indian Embassies abroad alogical and geochemical aspects maintain a record ot the particulars of of mica pegmatites was also taken Indian nationals in their respective up by Indian Bureau of Mines and countries; four mica mines have been cov­ (b) whether Indian nationals in Gulf ered in Bihar mica belt under the Countries are registered with the respective project. Based on research on Indian Embassies there; and mica carried out, guidelines for ex­ ploration for mica have been pre­ (c) if so, the number thereof? pared and circulated. THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 4) Export duty on mica excepting (SHRI P. V. NARASIMHA RAO): (a) to (c). mica scrap, has been abolished. The information is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the House. 5) Mica products have been included in the list of products to which fa­ Heun Tsang Memorial, Nalanda (Bihar) cilities of 100% export oriented units have been extended. 2870. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA- SHAR: Will the Minister of HUMAN 6) Sales promotion tours abroad as RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to also participation in International state: Trade fairs have been encouraged. (a) whether Government have taken any 7) Diversification of the industry into final decision regarding the functioning of manufacture and export of value- the Heun Tsang Memorial, Nalanda (Bihar), Written Answers 136 135 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 the building, tor which is lying vacant after graded and also those newly opened since completion some years ago; the submission of the report in 1983;

(b) if so, the likely pattern of its functions (c) whether fulfledged circles would be and its proposed activities and manage­ opened for Himachal Pradesh and Dharwar ment; and in Karnataka in view of the need for the pro­ tection and promotion of large number of (c) if not, the reasons therefor and the ancient monuments in these regions; and likely date by which a decision would be taken in this regard? (d) if so, the likely date by which it would be clone? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ PARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CUL­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ TURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RE­ PARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CUL­ SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L P. TURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RE­ SHAHI): (a) No, Sir. SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. SHAHI): (a) and (b). One of the recom­ (b) Does not arise. mendations of the Mirdha Committee ac­ cepted by the Government was that for (c) In March, 1985, the Bihar Covem­ achieving better efficiency, the existing ment had agreed in principle to the merger number of circles of the Survey should be of Heim Tsang Memorial with the Nava raised from 12 to 18. The circles at Jaipur, Nalanda Mahavihara and to establish an au­ Chandigarh, Lucknow, Bhubaneshwar and 2 tonomous organisation. Subsequently, in a mini-circles, one at Goa and another at communication dated 4.3.86, the Bihar Simla have been created since the submis­ Covemment indicated that a thinking had sion of the Report. developed for establishment of an Open University at Nalanda incorporating the (c) A proposal to open a circle office for Nava Nalanda Mahavihara into it. On Dharwar Region in Karnataka is under con­ 12.11.86, the State Government formally sideration of the Covemment. requested the Central Covemment to set up an Open University at Nava Nalanda Ma­ (d) In view of indepth study of the finan­ havihara. As this did not touch upon the cial/staff requirements, no specific date original proposal of the merger of Hieun could be indicated. Tsang Memorial with the Nava Nalanda Mahavihara, the State Government was re­ quested to reconsider the matter. Procurement and Sale of PEPSICO Prod­ ucts through Cooperative Societies The matter is still under consideration ot the State Government. 2872. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: Will the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING INDUS- T RIES be pleased to state: Ope ning of New Archaeological Circles (a) whether in the case of Pepsico Pro­ 287 1. PROF NARAIN CHAND PARA- ject any agreement has been entered into SFIAR: Will the minister of HUMAN providing that the procurement and sale in RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to the home market of all vegetable and fruits state: will be done only through Co-operative So­ cieties; and (a) whether Covemment have accepted the recommendations of the Mirdha Com­ (b) if so, the details thereof? mittee for the up-grading and opening of new' Archaeofogcical Circles in the country; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN­ ISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (b) if so, the names of the circles up­ (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) No, Sir. 137 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SA/C4) Written Answers 138

(b) Does not arise. SHRI ANANDAPATHAK: SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: Research and Development in Pepsico SHRI MANIK SANYAL: Project Will the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING 2873. SHRI C. JANCA REDDY: INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: SHRI ANANDAPATHAK: (a) whether a lumpsum of Dollars Will the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING 800,000 is to be paid as know-how fees to INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: M/s. Pepsico for the Punjab Agro Industries Corporations Project; (a) the amount earmarked in the Pepsico Project for research and development; (b) if so, the item-wise break-up of the amount being paid therefor; (b) how does it compare with the amount already being spent by the various (c) whether the technology which M/s. Agriculture Universities and other laborato­ Pepsico will provide is not available in the ries in India on Agricultural Research; and country;

(c) the various aspects of Research and (d) whether 65 percent of the turn-over Development to be provided by the Pepsico of the project would be potato chips (40 Project? percent) and soft drink concentrate (25 per­ cent) which are low priority items;

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN­ (e) the export commitment imposed on ISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES exports of Potato and other snacks and soft (SHRI JACDISH TYTLER): (a) Rs. 1.64 crores drink concentrate, itemwise and whether is earmarked for the Pepsi Project for Re­ any guarantee has been obtained in this re­ search and Development. This includes a gard; and capital outlay of Rs. 0.59 crores and oper­ ating expenses of Rs. 1.05 crores for five (f) the reasons for allowing foreign equity years. participation to make these products?

(b) The budget estimate for the year THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN­ 1988-89 of various Agricultural Universities ISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES and other laboratories is Rs. 38.83 crores. (SHRI JACDISH TYTLER): (a) No, Sir.

(c) The various aspects of Research and (b) Does not arise in view of (a) above. Development to be provided as follows:- (c) The technology to be provided by i) Development of improved vari­ M/s. Pepsico is intended to upgrade the eties existing technology in the country.

ii) Development of optimum produc­ (d) The turnover of the Project would be tion technologies Potato/grain processing (40%) and soft drink concentrate (25%). iii) Multiplication of high quality seeds (e) The project shall export 50% of its to­ iv) Oil seeds Research tal turnover each year tor a period of ten years from the commencement of commer­ Punjab Agro Pepsico Project cial production of which 40% will be from the company's own manufactured products 2874. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: and 10% from Select List products manufac­ SHRIMATI CEETA MUKHERJEE: tured by others. The foreign exchange in­ SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: flow shall not be less than five times the Written Answers 140 139 Written Answers DECEMBER 1, 1988

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ foreign exchange outflow of project during PARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND CO­ the aforementioned ten years period. The OPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRI­ dividend repatriation shall be permitted only after the export obligation for the years CULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) is met. Yes, Sir.

(f) Foreign equity participation has been (b) and (c). Information is being col­ permitted keeping in view the need for lected. greater access to markets, including foreign markets. (d) Does not arise in view of answer at (b) and (c) above. [Translation] Schemes for the Benefit of Women Constitution of a Combined Transport Operators Agency 2877. SHRI SHANTILAL PATEL: SHRI S. B. SIDNAL: 2875. SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be Will the Minister of HUMAN RE­ pleased to state: SOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: (a) whether there is any proposal to con­ stitute a Combined Transport Operators (a) the details of schemes formulated for Agency to lift the goods meant for export the upliftment and benefit of women; and from industrial units and to supply them to their foreign consumers; and (b) the central assistance provided to the State Governments for implementing these (b) if so, the details thereof? schemes?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN­ ISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI RA- JESH PILOT): (a) and (b). There is no pro­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ posal to set up such an Agency. PARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS AND SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD DE­ VELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF HU­ [English) MAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA): (a) In so far Timely Rural Credit as the Department of Women and Child Development is concerned, the following 2876. SHRI JACANNATH PATNAIK: are the main schemes being implemented SHRI H. B. PATIL: for the uplift and benefit of women:-

Will the Minister of ACRICULTURE be (i) Support for Training and Employ­ pleased to state: ment Programme for women;

(a) whether Government are aware that (ii) Employment and Income gener­ the people in rural areas feel that their ating training-cum-production cen­ greatest need is cheap and timely credit; tres;

(b) whether any study has been con­ (iii) Socio-economic Programme of the ducted in this regard; Central Social Welfare Board;

(c) if so, the details of the recommenda­ (iv) Training of rural women in public tions made in this regard; and cooperation being implemented by the Central Social Welfare (d) the reaction of Government thereto? Board; 141 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(S4/C4) Written Answers 142

(v) Women's Development Corpora­ (b) In none of the aforesaid schemes, tion; excepting the scheme of Women's Devel­ opment Corporations, is Central assistance (vi) Training and Rehabilitation of provided to the State Governments as assis­ Women in Distress; tance is given to the voluntary organisa­ (vii) Hostels for Working Women; tion/agency implementing the scheme, though it is channelled through the State (viii) Creches programme of the Central Government/State Social Welfare Board. In Social Welfare Board; respect of the scheme of Women's Devel­ opment Corporations, the details regarding (ix) Short Stay Homes; the central assistance given are as under: -

S l. Name of the Amount sanctioned No. Organisations during (in Rs.) 1986-87 1987-88

1. Punjab Women & Children Development & Welfare Corporation, Chandigarh 25,00,000/- 21,13,000/-

2. Chandigarh Child & Women Development Corporation, Chandigarh 8,00,000/-

3. Mahila Arthik Vikas Mahamandal, New Bombay (Maharashtra) 7,00,000/- 8,64,000/-

4. Tamil Nadu Corporation for Development of Women Ltd. Madras 10,00,000/-

5. Kerala State Women Development Corporation, Trivandaim 19.00.000/-

6. Uttar Pradesh Mahila Vikas Nigam Ltd., Lucknow 19.00.000/-

[Translation] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE M IN­ ISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI K. Survey of NRIs NATWAR SINGH): (a) No specific survey has been conducted in the recent past on 2878. SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: Will NRIs by the Ministry of External Affairs. the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be However, this Ministry collects on a regular pleased to state: basis information pertaining to the number of overseas Indians in different countries, (a) whether any survey has been con­ based mainly on published statistics. ducted recently in regard to Non-Resident Indians; and (b) The estimated total number of Over­ (b) if so, the total number thereof, coun­ seas Indians country-wise is given in the try-wise? statement below:- Written Answers 144 143 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988

STATEMENT Name of Total No. ot Country Overseas Indians SI. Name of Total No. of No. Country Overseas 45 Indians 30. China 31. Columbia 30 1. Afghanistan 45,600 32. Comoros 179 2. Algeria 3,003 33. Congo 15 3. Angola 50 34. Costa Rica 20 4. Anguilla 6 35. Cuba 18

5. Antigua and Barbuda 25 36. Cyprus 40 6. Argentina 300 37. Czechoslovakia 82 7. Australia 99,200 38. Denmark 2,552 8. Austria 3,181 39. Dominica 35 9. Bahamas 250 40 Djibouti 525 10. Bali rain 48,050 41. Ecuador 4 11. Bangladesh 201 42. Fgypt 514 12. Barbados 1,500 43. El Salvador 2

13. Belgium 2,338 44. Equatorial Guinea 10 14. Belize 660 45. Ethiopia 3,000 15. Benin 250 46. Fiji 339,340 16. Bhutan 70,037 47. Finland 177 17. Bolivia 50 48. France 42,000 18. Botswana 1,750 49. Gabon 10 19. Brazil 272 50. Gambia 72

20. Brunei 5,500 51. Guatemala 16 21. Burkina Faso 56 52. Germany (FRG) 32,335 22. Burma 330,000 53. Cermany (GDR) 2,300 23. Butundi 250 54. Ghana 1,200

24. Cameroun 150 55. Greece 200 25. Canada 228,500 56. Grenada 4,000 26. Cayman Island 20 57. Cuinea 4 27. Central African 58. Guyana 300,350 Republic 8 59. Hong Kong 20,180 28. Chad 5 60. Hungary 22 29. Chile 160 61. Iceland 8 145 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SA/C4) Written Answers 146

SI. Name of Total No. of SI. Name of Total No, of No. Country Overseas No. Country Overseas Indians Indians

62. Indonesia 30,000 93. Nauru 170

63. Iran 6,300 94. Nepal N.A. 64. Iraq 35,000 95. Netherlands Antilles 450

65. Ireland 750 96. Netherlands 102,800 66. Italy 1,500 97. New Zealand 15,000

67. Ivory Coast 157 98. Nicaragua 3 68. Jamaica 38,600 99. Nigar 17 69. Japan 2,685 100. Nigeria 14,000

70. Jordan 4,506 101. Norway 2,900 71. Kampuchea 4 102. Oman 190,000 72. Kenya 70,000 103. Pakistan N.A.

73. Korea (Republic of) 267 104. Panama 2,100 74. Kuwait 110,010 105. Paraguay 11

75. Laos PDR 80 106. Papua New Guinea 350 76. Lebanon 15,000 107. Peru 104 77. Lesotho 1,100 108. Philippines 12,100

78. Liberia 3,066 109. Poland 90 79. Libya 35,500 110. Portugal 7,300 80. Luxembourg 54 111. Qatar 51,500

81. Malagasy 21,250 112. Rumania 39 113. Rwanda 300 82. Malawi 5,000 114. Saudi Arabia 250,000 83. Malaysia 1,170,000 115. Senegal 90 84. Maldives 121 116. Seychelles 5,200 85. Malta 170

86. Mali 10 117. Sierra Leone 1,624 87. Mauritius 700,720 118. Singapore 100,000 88. Mexico 134 119. Somalia 453 89. Mongolia 4 120. South Africa 850,000 90. Montserrat 15 121. Spain 10,000 91. Morocco 769 122. Sri Lanka 1,028,289 92. Mozambique 20,850 123. St. Christopher & Nevis 20 Written Answers 148 147 Written Answers DECEMBER 1, 1988

Total No. of SI. Name of SI. Name of Total No. of Overseas No. Country No. Country Overseas Indians Indians 146. Vanuatu 1

32C 124. St. Vincent & 147. Venezuela the Crenadines 6,000 148. Vietnam 80

125. St. Lucia 3,840 149. Western Samoa 16

126. Sudan 2,000 150. Yemen Arab

127. Suriname 140,000 Republic 15,000

128. Swaziland 80 151. Yemen (PDR) 1 03,230

129. Sweden 7,046 152. Yugoslavia 36

130. Switzerland 2,863 153. Zaire 2,711

131. Syrian Arab 154. Zambia 2 0 ,9 0 0

Republic 317 155. Zimbabwe 1 6,000

132. Tanzania 40,000

133. Thailand 65,000 N.A. = Not available 85 134. Togo [English] 135. Tonga 32 Setting Up of Tubewells in States 136. Trinidad & Tobago 430,000 2879. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of ACRI­ 137. Tunisia 43 CULTURE be pleased to state the details of the number of tube-wells and bore-wells set 138. Turkey 2 up in Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka and Maha­ 139. Turks & Caicos rashtra during 1986-87 and 1987-88, re­ spectively? Islands 10

140. Uganda 1,500 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ PARTMENT OP ACRICULTURE AND CO­ 141. U.A.E. 240,000 OPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRI­ 142. United States CULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): The details of the number of tube-wells/bore- of America 500,000 wells/dugwells constructed in the States of Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka and Maharash­ 143. U.S.S.R. 1,310 tra under the Centrally Sponsored Scheme 144. United Kingdom 789,000 of Assistance to Small and Marginal Farmers for Increasing Agricultural Production during 145. Uruguay 5 1986-87 and 1987-88 are given below:- 149 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 10,191 0(SAKA) Written Answers 150

(Number in thousand)

w Andhra Pradesh Karnataka Mahara6htra@ Tube­ Bore- Tube­ Bore- Tube­ Bore- Year wells wells/ wells wells/ wells wells/ dug- dug- dug- wells wells wells

1986-87 0.18 5.66 - 7.80 0.18 18.77

1987-88 0.71 4.90 0.90* 1.85* 0.17 10.42

*Upto December, 1987 @ For rural drinking water supply programme.

Import of Seeds an Open General (c) No, Sir. Licences (d) Does not arise. 2880. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: Centre for Women's Development

(a) whether recently seeds have been 2881. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL: allowed to be imported on Open General Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE Licences; DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state:

(b) the usual time taken by the agricul­ (a) whether a Centre for Women's De­ tural scientists to certify that the seeds had velopment is in the process of finalisation; become virus-free and are fit for use; (b) if so, the composition, functions and (c) whether statutory obligations for this location of the proposed Centre; procedure have been changed; and (c) whether the Centre will be a Gov­ (d) if so, what they are now and how ernment body or an autonomous body; and these are different from the previous ones?

(d) how the activities/benefits of the proposed Centre would reach the women THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ folk in rural areas? PARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND CO­ OPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRI­ CULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ Only the import of seeds of vegeta­ PARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS AND bles/flowers and ornamental plants, tubers SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD DE­ and bulbs, cutting and sappling budwoods VELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF HU­ etc. of flowers has been allowed on OGL by MAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT identified categories. (SHRIMATI MARCARET ALVA): (a) No, Sir.

(b) Time taken may be about 45-50 days. (b) to (d). Question does not arise. 151 Written Answm DECEMBER 1, 1988 Written Answers 152

RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L P. Crisis in Cashew Industry of Kerala SHAHI): (a) to (c). Section 10(1) of the Delhi School Education Act, 1973 provides 2882. SHRI C. S. BASAVARAJU: for facilities like Provident Fund/G.P.F. to all SHRI S. B. SIDNAL: schools run/recognised by Delhi Will the Minister of ACRICULTURE be Administration. The proposal regarding feasibility of a Health Insurance Scheme for pleased to state: teachers is under consideration of the (a) whether the Cashew industry in Ker­ government. ala is facing serious crisis; Hike in Price of Vegetables (b) if so, the extent of loss likely to be 2884. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: Will the suffered by the Industry; Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to (c) whether Union Covemment have state: proposal to revitalise cashew industry in Kerala; and (a) whether there has been a sharp in­ crease in the prices of vegetables in the (d) if so, the details thereof? capital during the last two months;

(b) if so, the percentage of increase and the reasons thereof; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND (c) the steps taken to tackle the COOPERATION IN THE 'MINISTRY OF situation? ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) to (d). The information is being THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE collected and will be laid on the Table of the DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND Sabha. COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) and (b). There has been some increase in the prices of some of the vegetables Provident Fund Facilities to School Staff in during the last two months, for example, Delhi onion and tomatoes. 2883. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: Will the The main reasons for higher prices have Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE been the unseasonal rains in onion DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: producing areas of Maharashtra, heavy rains and floods in whole of Northern Region, (a) whether the staff working in schools transport bottlenecks caused by the strike of Delhi are covered by any Government of Transporters etc. Health Scheme and Provident Fund Scheme; (c) Delhi Administration is making veg­ etables available at reasonable prices to the (b) if not, whether Government have any consumers in Delhi through 132 static proposal to introduce such schemes in near outlets and 39 mobile vans. The Mother future; and Dairy is also selling vegetables at reasonable prices through 100 outlets in Delhi. (e) if so, the details thereof? Cultivation Cost of Food Crops

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 2885. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN pleased to state: 153 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 10, 191 0(SAKA) Written Answers 154

(a) whether any estimate of per hectare THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE cost of cultivation of various crops in each DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND State has been made; and COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (b) if so, the per hectare cost of cultiva­ (a) Yes, Sir. tion pf sugarcane, rice, wheat and maize in the States of Maharashtra, Andhra Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh, Karnataka, Gujarat, Bihar, Tamil Nadu, Haryana and Punjab during the (b) A statement giving cost estimates tor year 1987-88? the latest available year is given below: -

STATEMENT

Cost of cultivation of Paddy, Wheat, Maize & Sugarcane in the states of Andhra Pradesh, Bihar, Gujarat, Haryana, Karnataka, Punjab, Tamil Nadu & Uttar Pradesh for the latest available year.

(Rs. per hectare)

Cost of Cultivation Cash and Kind Total Cost Expenses (Cost C2) State/Crop Year (CostA2)

1 2 3 4

PADDY

Andhra Pradesh 1983-84 3291.55 5291.22

Bihar 1983-84 1181.85 2830.80

Haryana 1984-85 3041.70 4977.12

Karnataka 1983-84 2101.52 4030.19

Punjab 1984-85 4374.65 7016.31

Tamil Nadu 1981-82 3430.41 5191.24

Uttar Pradesh 1983-84 1534.80 3054.64

WHEAT

Bihar 1983-84 1433.17 3.119.03

Haryana 1986-87 2760.06 4527.97

Punjab 1986-87 3186.19 5224.42

Uttar Pradesh 1983-84 2165.82' 3679.69

MAIZE

Bihar 1983-84 1095.46 2751.64 155 Written Answers DECEMBER 1, 1988 Written Answers 156

4 1 7 3

SUGARCANE 11802.29 Andhra Pradesh 1983-84 6645.93

Bihar 1983-84 2353.50 4842.04

Haryana 1986-87 2920.78 5550.14

Karnataka 1985-86 4189.73 9691.66

Maharashtra 1983-84 9354.63 13335.39

Tamil Nadu 1983-84 6921.59 10733.46

Uttar Pradesh 1984-85 2373.32 5443.31

Note: 1. Estimates are provisional and subject to revision.

2. Cash and kind expenses include items of cost such as seed, fertilizers, manure, insecticides, irrigation charges, hired human labour, bullock & machine labour (both hired and owned), depreciation charges on implement and farm buildings, land revenue, cesses and other taxes, interest on working capital, miscellaneous expenses (artisan etc.) and rent paid for leased in land. The total cost is obtained with the addition to cash and kind expenses, imputed rental value of owned land, interest on fixed capital and imputed value of family labour.

Teaching of Sanskrit under Central Board Indian States where Hindi course 'B' only is of Secondary Education invariably taught; and

2886. SHRI P. M. SAYEED: Will the (e) if so, the remedial measures Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DE­ proposed tcf give Sanskrit its due place in VELOPMENT be pleased to state: the system of education?

(a) whether "Sanskrit" has been clubbed THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE as optional subject alongwith foreign lan­ DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND guages like French, German, Russian, Span­ CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN ish etc. by the Central Board of Secondary RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. Education; SHAE-II): (a) and (b). In keeping with the three language formula, the Central Board (b) if so, the reasons therefor; of Secondary Education has prescribed Hindi, English and one of the modern (c) whether only 20 per cent of the Cen­ Indian languages for secondary school tral Board of Secondary Education school examination. Sanskrit will be taught students are allowed to take Sanskrit in alongwith Hindi as part of Hindi A Course. North India alongwith Hindi 'A' level Also the students may offer one of the course; Seven classical and European languages including Sanskrit as an additional language (d) whether even this small percentage is on optional basis. denied to the students of Central Board of Secondary Education schools in South (c) For 1988 examination 144365 candi­ 157 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 10,1910(MM) Written Answers 158 dates, out of total of 193565 who appeared the Minister of. HUMAN RESOURCE at the All India and Delhi Secondary DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: Examination, 1988 offered Hindi Course 'A' (a) whether the Librarians working in the which is approximately 75% of the total colleges all over the country are demanding number. the pay scales given to the Lecturers by the University Grants Commission; (d) For student opting Hindi 'B' Course, there is a provision for taking Sanskrit as an (b) if so, whether Government have additional subject. The question of taken any decision on the Mehrotra requiring Sanskrit to be studied as part of Committee's recommendations on pay other Indian languages at 4A' level, as is scales of these Librarians; prescribed for Hindi, is under consideration of the Central Board of Secondary (c) if so, the details thereof; and Education. (d) if not, the reasons therefor? (e) Does not arise. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Import of Coking Coal by Integrated Steel DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND Plants CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. 2887. SHRI S. B. SIDNAL: SHAHI): (a) and (b). The revision of pay SHRI S.M. CURADDI: scales of College Librarians, on the recommendations of the Mehrotra Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES Committee, has been approved by the Cen­ be pleased to state: tral Government and communicated to the State Governments, etc., on 22.7.1988. (a) the total import of Coking Coal by the integrated steel plants during 1987-88 and (c) The revised scale is Rs. 2200-4000/- 1988-89; which is the same as that of a Lecturer. The College Librarians will also be entitled to a (b) whether the imports during 1988-89 senior scale of Rs. 3300-5000/- after 8 years are likely to be doubled as compared to the and a Selection Grade of Rs. 3700-5700/- af­ previous year; and ter another 8 years. These decisions have been communicated on 22.7.1988 to the (c) if so, the main reasons therefor? State Governments for consideration and adoption. The State Governments will also THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES be provided with financial assistance to the (SHRI M. L. FOTEDAR): (a) Integrated Steel extent of 80% of the additional expenditure plants (SAIL & TISCO) imported 3.08 million for the period 1.1.1986 to 31.3.1990 to give tonnes of coking coal during 1987-88. In effect to this decision. 1988-89, the total import of coking coal by integrated steel plants (SAIL, TISCO & VSP) (d) Does not arise. are likely to be of the order of 4.44 million Admission of Students to Navodaya tonnes. Vidyalayas in Rajasthan

(b) No, Sir. 2889. SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE (c) Does not arise. DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state:

[Translation] (a) the number of Navodaya Vidyalayas opened during the year 1988-89, State-wise; Pay Scales to Librarians in Colleges (b) whether the number of students 2888. SHRI SHANTI DHAR1WAL: Will given admission in the Navodaya Vidyalayas 159 Written Answers DECEMBER 1, 1988 Written Answers 160

is less than the target fixed for these (b) and (c). Yes, Sir. The admission in Vidyalayas; Navodaya Vidyalayas is made on the basis of admission test designed and conducted (c) ff so, the reasons therefdr; by National Council for Educational Research and Training. Those students (d) the number of rural children admitted whose performance in the test is not upto to those Vidyalayas belonging to the families the prescribed standard are not admitted living below poverty line in Rajasthan during even if there are vacancies in particular the year 1988-89; and schools.

(e) the steps taken by Covemment to (d) and (e). Admission of children to provide admission to the children belonging Navodaya Vidyalayas is based on a test and to these families in larger number to these is without regard to their families' socio­ Vidyalayas? economic conditions. 75% of the seats in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE each Navodaya Vidyaiaya are reserved for DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND rural children only. CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. [English] SHAHI): (a) Forty seven (47) Navodaya Vidyalayas have been opened during the Newsitem Captioned "Anti-India Propa­ year 1988-89, as mentioned below:- ganda Gains Momentum Abroad"

1. Madhya Pradesh 8 2890. SHRI PARASRAM BHARDWAJ: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be Haryana 3 pleased to state:

3. Orissa 1 (a) whether the attention of Government has been drawn to the newsitem captioned 4. Punjab 2 ’Anti-India Propaganda Gains Momentum Abroad”, appearing in the 'Free Press Jour­ 5. Delhi 1 nal' dated 30 October, 1988;

6. Uttar Pradesh 10 (b) if so, the reaction of Government thereon; and 7. Rajasthan 6 (c) the steps taken by Indian Missions 8. Bihar 1 abroad to counteract negative publicity by foreign media? 9. Karnataka 2 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 10. Kerala 3 MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. 11. Andhra Pradesh 3 (b) There has been no "sudden spurt" in 12. Lakshadweep 1 anti-India propaganda abroad. Of late, there has been increased coverage of news 13. Goa 1 on India, which on the whole has been factual and balanced. There has also been 14. Daman and Diu 1 some negative reporting.

15. Tripura 1 (c) Our missions abroad have been countering negative reporting, whenever 16. Manipur 3 required, by w riting to newspapers and 47 Radio/TV authorities. Our Heads of Missions and their staff engage in a 161 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 10,1910(5M4) Written Answers 162 continuing dialogue with opinion makers to 8. M/s. Himpex Pvt. Ltd., Nangal try and correct wrong perceptions. (Ancillary unit of Nangal)

[Translation] 9. M/s. Punjab Poly Jute Corpn., Bathinda (Ancillary unit of Purchase of Laminated Gunny Bags by Bathinda). National Fertilizers Limited Fertilizer Testing Laboratories in Uttar 2891. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the Pradesh Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to state: 2892. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be .pleased to (a) whether any kind of irregularities state: have come to the notice of Covemment in regard to the approval of tenders floated by (a) the number of fertilizer testing labora­ the National Fertilizers Ltd. this year for tories in Uttar Pradesh; purchase of laminated gunny bags; (b) whether there is any proposal to (b) if so, the details thereof and the ac­ open new laboratories during the current tion taken by Government; and financial year in Uttar Pradesh; and

(c) the value of the tenders approved (c) if so, the details thereof? and the names of the companies whose tenders have been approved? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF DEPARTMENT OF FERTILIZERS IN THE AGRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV)r MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI R. (a) There are three Fertilizer Testing PRABHU): (a) and (b). Allegations Laboratories in Uttar Pradesh. regarding violation of tender practices by National Fertilizers Limited (NFL) in the (b) and (c). During the current financial purchase of laminated jut bags were year, under Centrally Sponsored Scheme, received by Government. The Company there is a provision to strengthen two out of has however denied these allegations. the three existing fertilizer testing laborato­ ries in Uttar Pradesh. The central assistance (c) NFL has placed orders of the value of will be limited to 50% of expenditure on ad­ about Rs. 96 crores on the following parties: ditional staff and equipment provided under the scheme. The balance 50% of expendi­ 1. M/s. Krishna Laminating Indust­ ture will be borne by the State Government. ries, Calcutta [English] 2. M/s. Shree Krishna & Co„ Calcutta Promotional Avenues for Demonstrators/ 3. M/s. Ashoka Industries, Calcutta Instructors of Delhi Polytechnics

4. M/s. Nirmal Laminators, Calcutta 2893. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the 5. M/s. Swastik Laminating Indus­ Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE tries, Bahadurgarh DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state:

6. M/s. Haryana Jute & Laminating Works, Calcutta (a) whether a committee was set up to review the pay scales and promotional 7. M/s. H.R. Enterprises, Panipat avenues for the Demonstrators/Instructors (Ancillary unit of Panipat) of Polytechnics in Delhi; 163 Written Answers DECEMBER 1, 1988 Written Answers 164

Project (NPDP) to increase production of (b) if so, whether the Committee has submitted its report; and pulses in hilly areas:

(c) the details of the promotional (i) Distribution of seed minikits to avenues provided* for the staff recruited popularise latest varieties of pulses through Union Public Service Commission amongst farmers; and the staff recruited directly by Polytechnics? (ii) Organising demonstrations for adopting improved agronomic THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE practices; DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN (iii) Adoption of plant protection mea­ RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. sures to control pests; SHAHI): (a) No, Sir. (iv) Production and distribution of (b) Question does not arise. seeds of improved varieties.

(c) Demonstrators/Instructors for Delhi (English] Polytechnics are not recruited through the Union Public Service Commission, but are Central Assistance of Flood Affected recruited through the Departmental Promo­ States tion Committee/Staff Selection Board set up by the Delhi Administration in the Direc­ 2895. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Will torate of Technical Education. The incum­ the Minister ot ACRICUL1URE be pleased to bents of the posts of Demonstra­ state: tors/Inspector's are having promotional av­ enues to the posts of Junior Lecturer/Senior (a) the total amounts sanctioned and re­ Drawing Instructor to the extent of 50% of leased by Union Covemment for flood the total posts. relief, State-wise, with break-up according to major heads ot expenditure during 1987- [Translation] 88 ;

Pulses Cultivation in Hilly Areas (b) whether Covemment have received any implementation reports and it so, the 2894. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the amount actually spent by the States con­ Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to cerned under major heads; state: (c) whether Covemment have received (a) whether there are possibilities of any reports regarding the shortcomings and pulses cultivation in hilly areas where dry deficiencies in the Hood relief programme in cultivation is done; and those States; and

(b) if so, the steps proposed to be taken (d) whether Government have checked to encourage pulses cultivation in these the performance of the State Governments areas? as regards utilisation of Central Assistance through an independent agency?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM IAL YADAV): AGRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) Yes, Sir. (a) and (b). Information on State-wise ceilings of expenditure approved under (b) It is proposed to take following mea­ broad sectors for flood relief during the year sures through National Pulses Development 1987-88, expenditure reported by the 165 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 10,1910(SAM) Written Answers 166 respective States against the ceilings and Any expenditure incurred over and above amount released are given in the Statement the ceilings approved is not taken into below. account while assessing the admissibility of (c) and (d). Ceilings of expenditure for the expenditure for the purpose of releasing natural calamities including for flood r elief is the funds. Central Monitoring Teams are approved item-wise to the affected States. also deputed to visit States for monitoring On the basis of expenditure reported by the the utilisation of Central assistance concerned State Governments against these approved for relief in the areas affected by ceilings, funds are released to the States. natural calamities. STATEMENT 167

Central assistance to Flood affected States 1987-88 Answers Written

(Rs. in Lac)

ITEMS ANDHRA PR. (CYCLONE/ FLOODS) ARUNACHAL PR. (FLOOD)

Ceiling Expdr. Amount Ceiling Expdr. Amount approved reported released approved reported released

1 2 3 4 5 6 7

I. Relief and Rehabilitation EEBR 1,1988 DECEMBER

a. Agricultural Input subsidy 115.00* 115.00 30.00 30.00

b. Desilting of land 0.53 0.53 - -

c. Repair/reconstruction 200.00 343.45 31.03 17.03 of damaged houses.

d. Assistance to Animal Husbandry 7.00 7.00 10.00 10.00 Sector.

e. Assistance to Fisheries 9.50 9.50 8.44 8.27 Sector. Written Answers

f. Public Health 4.00 4.00 - -

9 Relief 25.95 63.11 118.97 114.82

h. Others 34.23 35.70 5.00 4.78 168 ~ ";1'1 ) cf .••1 I_I ~

II. ~ Repair and restoration 700.00 00.00 480.00 472.64 a- of Public properties ID ~ III. Co-operative loans ~. Conversion of short term loans into medium term loans ~ TOTAL 1096.21 1278.29 Met out of 683.44 657.54 Rs.400.00 ; margin money lakhs Non-Plan and released Grant and Centres share Rs. 7.00 lakhs of MM of Centre's share Rs. 1225.00 lakhs of margin money f) :I:~. ~ > Z ~> ~o ~ ID~ I

~ ~ f ....•~ o Central assistance to Flood affected States 1987-88. 171

(Rs. in Lakhs) Answers Written

ITEM S ASSAM (FLOOD) BIHAR (FLOOD) Ceiling Expdr. Amount Ceiling Expdr. Amount approved reported released approved reported released

1 8 9 10 11 12 13

I. Relief and Rehabilitation

a) Agricultural 422.00 422.00 930.00 930.00 EEBR 1,1988DECEMBER Input subsidy

b) Desilting of 26.00 26.00 15.00 15.00 land

c' Repair/reconstruction 386.00 386.00 556.00 1000.00 of damaged houses,

d) Assistance to Animal 200.00 200.00 337.21 111.21 Husbandry Sector. e Assistance to 1.00 1.00 - - Fisheries Sector. rte Answers Written f) Public Health 83.00 83.00 500.00 310.49 g) Relief 864.00 898.71 1061.15 2794.89

h) Others i 00.00 100.00 20.00 172 2 ' ~ ,6 QO II -- ~ ., ". , ...... • 5439.41 t.> 5218,60 4168.00 4168.00 II. Repair and restoration ;E' of Public properties ~ Co-operative loans ?; III. money money >... p... \D..• i

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(Rs. in Lakhs) Written Answers

ITEMS H.P. (HAILSTROM. HEAVY RAINS)* HIMACHAL PR. (FLOOD) Ceiling Expdr. Amount Ceiling Expdr. Amount approved reported released approved reported released

14 15 16 17 18 19

I. Relief and Rehabilitation

Agricultural a) 277.00 277.00 * - 1,1988 DECEMBER Input subsidy

b) Desilting of land - - - -

c) Repair/reconstruction 12.00 12.00 0.33 0.33 of dam aged house

d) Assistance to Animal 50.00 50.00 - - Husbandry sector

«) Assistance to - * - - Fisheries Sector Written Answers f) Public Health - - - -

9) Relief 54.39 73.69 0.75 0.75

h) Others . . . • 176 Z1 ~ 'J ft_ .i~:' . C7\ .., ,;~ .•~1------=-~-;r. --

51500 779.00 91.71 91.71 '-J-' II. Repair and restoration '-J of Public properties ~ III. Co-operative loans 28.00 28.00 ::t Conversion of short s term loans into ~ medium term loans. '" ~ Rs.35.00 TOTAL 93639 1219.69 Rs. 92.79 9279 655.07 lakhs lakhs Non-Plan Non-Plan grant grant + ~ ~ Rs.75oo J: lakhs ?< being > Centre's ...~ share of ,0 margin money. ~ ID -' * Strong Winds I

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~ Central assistance to Flood affected States 1987-88 179

(Rs. in Lakhs) Written Answers

ITEM S J&K (HAILSTROM/FLOODS) MANIPUR (FLOODS)® Ceiling Expdr. Amount Ceiling Expdr. Amount approved reported released approved reported released

20 21 22 23 24 25

I Relief and Rehabilitation

a) Agncuftura! 92.19 - 30.00 1,1988DECEMBER Input subsidy

b) Desilting of land - - -

c) Repair/reconstruction - - 5.00 of damaged houses

d) Assistance to Animal - - 1.00 Husbandry sector e) Assistance to - - 2.00 Fisheries Sector Written Answers f) Public Health - - - g) Relief - - 25.00 h) Others . . . 180 ~- ,l'~ -..-;. ...• 103.00 ...•ex> II. Repair and restoration of Public properties ~

III. Co-operative loans ~ t~ Conversion of short term loans into ~ medium term loans ~ Not yet Ci! 92.19 Yet not 166.00 TOTAL reported. reported

@Calamity occurred in 1987-88 and ceilings fixed for 1988-89. ~ ~ :::t ~ > Z >...• p ...• \D...• I

~ ~ ~ ~..• Rl Central assistance to Flood affected States 1987-88 183

(Rs. in Lakhs) Written Answers

ITEM S MEGHALAYA (CYCLONE/FLOODS) NAGALAND (FLOODS) Ceiling Expdr, Amount Ceiling Expdr Amount approved reported released approved Reported released

26 27 28 29 30 31

I. Relief and Rehabilitation

a) Agricultural Input 51.92 - - 1,1988DECEMBER Subsidy b) Desitting of land - - - c) Repair/reconstruction of damaged houses - - - d) Assistance to Animal Husbandry Sector - - - e) Assistance to Fisheries - - - Sector Written Answers f) Public Health 7.00 - -

9) Relief 7.98 50.00 50.00 h) Others . - - 184 1B5 II. Repair and restoration of Public properties 160.00 - 140.00 140.00 Written Answers

III. Co-operative loans Conversion of short term . . . loans into medium term loans CAAAA ,1910(MAC4) 0 1 ACRAHAYANA

TO TA L 226.90 Not yet 190.00 190.00 108.78 reported

* Nagaland: non-plan grant of Rs. 106.75 lakhs and Centre’s share of margin money of Rs. 25 lakhs for two years (1986-87 and 1987-88). Written Answers 186 Central assistance to Flood affected States 1987-88 187

(Rs. in Lakhs) rte Answers Written

ITEMS SIKKIM (FLOODS) UTTAR PRADESH (FLOODS) Ceiling Expdr. Amount Ceiling Expdr. Amt. approved reported released approved reported released

32 33 34 35 36 37

! Relief and Rehabilitation

a) Agricultural Input Subsidy 14.22 14.22 170 00 170,00 EEBR , 1988 1,DECEMBER

b) Desisting of land - - - -

c) Repair/reconstruction of damaged houses 1.88 1.88 145.00 14500 • d} Assistance to Animal Husbandry sector 2.75 2.75 14.00 14.00 e) Assistance to - - - - Fisheries Sector.

Public Health - - 42.00 42.00

f) Answers Written

9) Relief 1.15 1.15 93.25 93 25 h> Others - - 145.00 145.00 188 II, Repair and restoration of 1440.00 Public properties 401.00 401.00 1440.00 ~Vrjtten Answers 15 189 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 10, 1910(SAM)

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(Rs. in Lakhs) Answers Written

ITEMS W EST BENGAL (FLOODS) Ceiling Expdr. Amount Ceiling Expdr. Amount approved reported released approved reported released

38 39 40

I. Relief and Rehabilitation

a) Agricultural 553.82 543.32 1,1988DECEMBER Input subsidy

b) Desilting of land - -

c) Repair/reconstruction 2025.00 2025.00 of damaged houses d) Assistance to Animal 37.82 37.82 Husbandry Sector e) Assistance to 40.00 40.00 Fisheries Sector rte Answers Written f) Public Health 220.00 213.65

9) Relief 1362.74 1362.85 h) Others 280.80 221.64 192

II Repair and restoration 3767.00 3799.93 of Public properties. ___ - •.••~~ ~1l ~ --rr , ~--'.

--~w III Co-operative loans Conversion of short ~ term loans into medium term loans, ~

2494.861akhs ~ TOTAL 8287.18 8244.21 Non-Plan grant + ~ Rs. 1187.50 lakhs Centre's share of margin money.

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Withdrawal of Soviet Forces from THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Afghanistan DEPARTMENT OF FERTILIZERS IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI R. 2896. SHRI SYEDSHAHABUDDIN: PRABHU): (a) M/S; Fertilizers and PROF. P. D. KURIEN: Chemicals Travancore Limited have offered to contribute some amount towards the Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS construction of the said road bridge. be pleased to state: (b) and (d. Since the proposal has not (a) whether tlu* withdrawal of USSR yet been finalised by the Kerala State torres from Afghanistan has been Covemment, the details are not available. proceeding in accordance with the agreed schedule; Release of Indian Fishermen Arrested by Other Countries (b) whether there has been any progress in the return oi Atghan refugees to their 2898. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA: Will country; and the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (c) whether any military or financial assis­ tance has been rendered to the Afghanistan (a) the number of Indian fishermen ar­ government to enable it to defend itself rested by the other countries alongwith against attacks by rebels? then boats during the last three years; and

THF MINISTER OF STATE IN IMF (b) the steps being taken by Covemment MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL All AIRS (SHRI R. to get them released? NAI'WAR SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (b) Some Atghan refugees have returned (SHRI P. V. NARASIMIIA RAO): (a) and (b). to Afghanistan. 1 he information is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the House. (c) Government do not provide any military assistance to Afghanistan. Permissible Levels of Pesticides

2899. SHRI P. R. KU M ARA M AN CA LAM : Construction of Bridge by Fertilizers and Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE: be Chemic als Travancore Limited pleased to state:

2397. PRO!. K. V. THOMAS: Will the (a) the upto date list of pesticides now Minister of AGRICULTURE be phased to registered in the country; state: (b) whether permissible levels of all these pesticides have been laid down with (a) whether the construction of a bridge reference to various farm products and if so, connecting Fertilizers and Chem icals I ra- the details thereof; and vancore Limited. Cochin Division and Irumpanam-Kalamassery road is to be fi­ (c) whether there are any pesticides in nanced by Fertilizers and Chemicals travan­ use for over two years for which permissible core Limited; levels have not been laid down, and if so, the details thereof? (b) if so, the details thereof; and

IHE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) when the construction of the budge DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND is likely to start? COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF 197 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SA/C4) Written Answers

ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): 28. Coumachlor (a) A list is given in Statement I below. 29. Cuprous Oxide 30. Cypermethrin (b) The permissible levels (tolerance limits, mg/kg) of thirty one pesticides on 31. Dalapon different food commodities are prescribed 32. Decamethrin in the Prevention of food Adulteration Rules, 33. D.D.T. 1955 framed under the Prevention of Food 34. Diazinon Adulteration Act, 1954. The details are given in Statement - II below. 35. Dibromochloropropane (DBCP) (c) Yes, Sir. The list is given in State­ 36. Dichlorvos ment - III below. 37. D.D. Mixture STATEMENT-1 38. Dicofol 39. Diflubenzuron

Insecticides registered on Regular Basis 40. Dimethoate 41. Di nocap 1. Acephate 42. Dithianon 2. Alachlor 43. Diuron 3. Aldicarb 44. EDCT Mixture (3:1) 4. Aid rin 45. Ediphenphos 5. Allethrm 46. EMC 6. Alpha Napthyal acetic acid 47. Endosulfan 7. A1 u m i n i u m P h os p h i cl e 48. tthepon 8. Atrazine 49. Etlnon 9. Barium Carbonate 50. Ethylene Dibromide 10. Benomyl 51. Fenitrothion 11. B.H.C. 52. Fenthion 12. Benthiocarb 53. Fenvalerate 13. Butachlor 54. Ferbam 14. Calcium Cyanide 55. Fluchloralin 15. Captafol 56. Formothion 16. Cap tan 57. Clyphosate 17. Carbaryl 58. Cibberlic Acid 18. Carbendazim 59. Heptachlor 19. Carbofuran 60. Isoproturon 20. Carboxin 61. Kitazin 21. Chlordane 62. Lindane (Gamma BHC) 22. Chlorfenvinphos 63. Lime Sulphur 23. Chlormequate Chloride 64. Malathion 24. Chlorobenzilate 65. Maleic Hyclrazide 25. Chlorpyriphos 66. Mancozeb 26. Copper Oxychloride 67. MCPA 27. Copper Sulphate 68. Menazon 199 Written Answers DECEMBER 1, 1988 Written Answers 200

Toxaphene 69. MEMC 107. Trial late 70. M etaldehyde 108. Trichloro Acetic acid (TCA) 71. Methabenztliiazuron 109. Trichlorphon 72. Methyl bromide 1 10. 73. Methyl Parathion 111. Tridem orph 74. Methyl bromide ^ Ethylene 112. Thiom eton dibromide (1:1 and 3:1) 113. Thiram 75, M etoxuron 114. W arfarin 76. Monocrotophos 115. Zinc Phosphide 77. M SM A 116. Zineb 78. Nickel Chloride 117. Ziram 79. Nicotine Sulphate 1 18. 2, 4-D (Sodium, amine ester 80. Nitrofen Salt) 8 I. Oxydemeton-methyl 1 19. M ethalaxyl 82. Paris Green (copper aceto arsenite) Insecticides Registered on Provisional Basis 83. Paraquat (Dichloride and dimethyl sulphate salts)

84. Paradichlorobenzene 1. Aniiophos 85. PCNB 0 . Bitcrtanol 86. Pendimethlin 3. Bromopropylate 87. Pentachlorophenon (PCP) 4. Cartap Hydrochloride 88. Perrne thrin 5. Chlorthalonil 89. Phenthoate 6. Coumatetralyl 90. Ph orate 7. Dicam ba 91. Phosaloi le 8. Diclofop-Methyl 92. Phosphamidon 9. Dodine 93. Pirimiphos methyl 10. fenpropathrin 94. PMA 11. Muvalinate 95. Propanil 12. fosetyl-A I 96. Pi'opoxur 13. 1 nd iara 97. Pyrotlm im 14. M etribuzin Quii talpl ios 98. 15. Ox^tluorfen Sevidul (4:4 Carbaryl and 99. 16. Propetamphos G am m a BM C) 17. Thiophanate-Methyl Triazophos 100. Sim azine 18. M ethom yl 101. Sirm ate 102. Sodium Cyanide 103. Stieptocycline Provisional Registration is granted by the 104. Sulphur egistration Committee for generation of c ata tor a period of two years only. After I em ephos 105. expiry of this period, registration stands in­ 106. Tet rad i ton valid. 201 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(S4/C4) Written Answers 202

STATEMENT-II

Tolerance Limits for Insecticides Residues on different Food Commodities (PFA RULES, 1955)

SI. Name of Food Tolerance limit No. Insecticide mg/kg (ppm)

1 2 3 4

1. Aldrin, Dieldrin (The limits Fooclgrains 0.01 apply to aldrin and dieldrin singly or in any combination Milk & Milk 0.15 (on a fat and are expressed as dieldrin) products basis) Fruits & Vegetables 0.1 Meat 0.2 fgss 0.1 (on a shell free basis)

2 Carbary! Fooclgrains 1.5 Okra & leafy V'eg. 10.0 Potatoes 0.2 Other Vegetables 5.0 Cottonseed (Whole) 1.0 Maize cob (Kernels) 1.0

3. Chlordane (Residue to be 1 ooclgrains 0.05 measured as cis Milk & Milk 0.05 (on a fat plus trans chlordane) Products basis) Vegetables 0.2 F ruits 0.1 Sugar beet 0.3

4. DDT (The limits apply Milk & Milk 1.25 (on a fat to DDT, DDD and DDL singly Products basis) or in any combination) Fruits & Vegetables 3.5 including potatoes Meat, Poultry 7.0 (on whole & fish product basis) CS8S 0.5 (on a shell free basis)

5. Diazinon Fooclgrains 0.05 Vegetables 0 5

6. Dichlorvos (content of di- Food grains 1.0 chloroacetaldehyde (DCA) be Milled fooclgrains 0.25 reported where possible) Vegetables 0.5 fruits 0.1 203 Written Answers DECEMBER 1, 1988 Written Answers 204

7. Dicofol Fruits & Veg. 5.0 Tea (d^ manufac­ 5.0 tured)

8. Dimethoate (residue to be Fruits & Vegetables 2.0 determined as dimethoate and its oxygen analogue and expressed as dimethoate)

9. Endosulfan (residues are Fruits & Veg. 2.0 measured and reported as total of endosulfan A and B cottonseed 0.5 and endosulfan sulphate) Cottonseed oil (Crude) 0.2

10. Fenitrothion Foodgrains 0.02 Milled Foodgrains 0.005 Milk & Milk 0.05 products Fruits 0.5 Vegetables 0.3 Meat 0.03

11. Heptachlor (combined residues Foodgrains 0.01 of heptachlor and Milled foodgrains 0.002 its epoxide to be determined and Milk & milk 0.15 expressed as Prod nets basis) heptachlor) Vegetables 0.05

12. Hydrogen cyanide Foodgrains 37.5 Milled toodgrains 3.0

13. H yd roge n p hosp 111 d e Foodgrains 0.05 Milled foodgrains 0.01

14. Inorganic bromide (deter­ Foodgrains 25.0 mined and expressed as total Milled toodgrains 25.0 bromide from all sources) Fruits 30.0 Dried fruits & 100.0 Spices

15. Lindane Foodgrains 0.25 Milk & Milk 0.2 (on a fat Prod nets basis) Fruits & Veg. 3.0 r 0.1 (on a shell- free basis) Meat & Poultry 2.0 (on whole basis) 205 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SA/CA) Written Answers 206

1 2 3 4

16. Malathion (Malathion to be Foodgrains 4.0 determined and expressed/ Milled foodgrains 1.0 as combined residues of malathion and malaxon) fruits 4.0 Vegetables 3.0 Dried fruits 8.0

17. Parathion (combined residues Fruits & Vegetables 0.5 of parathion and paraoxon to be determined and expressed as parathion)

18. Parathion methyl (combined Fruits 0.2 residues of parathion- Vegetables 1.0 methyl and its oxygen analogue to be determined and expressed as parathion methyl)

19. Phosphamidon (Residues foodgrains 0.05 expressed as the sum of the phosphamidon and its desethyl Fruits & Veg. 0.2 derivative).

20. Pyrethrins (sum ol pyrethrins foodgrains 1.5 1 and II and other structura­ lly related insectincida! Milled foodgrains 0.5 ingredients of pyrethrum) Fruits & Vegetables 1.0

2 1. C H LO R F F. N V1N P H O S (Residues to be measured as Foodgrains 0.025 alpha and beta iscomers of Milled foodgrains 0.006 chlorfei ivii iphos) Milk and Milk 0.2 (fat basis) products Meat and poultry' 0.2 (carcass fat) Vegetables 0.05 Groundnuts 0.05 (shell free basis) Cotton seed 0.05

Explanation:-- For the purposes ot this rule; (a) the expression "Insecticide'' shall have the meaning assigned to it in the Insecticides Act, 1968(46 of 1968);

(b) Unless otherwise stated:- (i) maximum levels are expressed in mg/Kg. on a whole products basis.

(ii) all food refer to raw agricultural products moving in commerce. 207 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 208

22. CHLOROBENZILATE Fruits 10 Dry Fruits, Almonds and Walnuts 0.2 (shell free basis) 23. CHI.ORPYRIFOS Foodgrains 0.05 Milled foodgrains 0.01 Fruits 0.5 Potatoes and Onions 0.01 Cauli Flower and Cabbage 0.01 Other vegetables 0.2 Meat and Poultry 0.1 (carcass fat) Milk and Milk 0.01 (fat products basis) Cotton seed 0.05 Cotton seed oil (crude) 0.025

24. 2, 4D F oodgrains 0.01 Milled foodgrains 0.003 Potatoes 0.2 "■Milk and Milk Products 0.05 *Meat and Poultry 0.05 £ggs 0.05 (shell free basis) Fruits 2.0 25. ETHION Tea (dry manufactured) 5.0 (Residues to be determined Cucumber and Squash 0.5 as ethion and its oxygen Other vegetables 1.0 analogue and expressed as Cotton seed 0.5 ethion) Milk and Milk 0.5 (fat basis) products *Meat and 0.2 (carcass fat Poultry basis) Fggs 0.2 (shell free basis) Foodgrains 0.025 Milled foodgrains 0.006 Peacher 1.0 Other fruits 2.0 dry fruits 0.1 (shell free

26. FORMOTHION ’ (Determined as dimethoate Citrus fruits 0.2 and its oxygenanalogue Other fruits 1.0 and expressedas dimethoate Vegetables 2.0 except in case of citrus Peppers and Tomatoes 1.0 fruits w here it is to be determined as fromathion)

♦Soluble in water and hence not necessary to mention on fat basis 209 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 10,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 210

1 2 3 4

27. MONOCROTOPHOS Foodgrains 0.025 Milled foodgrains 0.006 Citrus fruits 0.2 Other fruits 1.0 Carrot, Turnip, Potatoes 0.05 and Sugar beet Onion and Peas 0.1 Other Vegetables 0.2 Cotton seed 0.1 Cotton seed oil (raw') 0.05 *Meat & Poultry 0.02 *Milk and Milk Products 0.02 Eggs 0.02 (shell free basis) Coffee (raw beans) 0.1

28. PARAQUAT-Dichloride Foodgrains 0.1 (Determined as Milled foodgrains 0.025 paraquat cations) Potatoes 0.2 Other vegetables 0.05 Cotton seed 0.2 Cottonseed oil (edible 0.05 retmed) *Milk (whole) 0.01 Fruits 0.05

29. PHOSALONE Pears 2.0 Citrus fruits 1.0 Other fruits 5.0 Potatoes 0.11 Other vegetables 1.0 Ra p es e e d / M u s t a rd O i 1 0.05 (crude)

30. TRICIILORI ON I oodgrains 0.05 Milled toodgrains 0.0125 Sugar beet 0.05 f ruits and v egetables 0.1 Oil seeds 0.1 Edible oil (retined) 0.05 *Meat and Poultry 0.1 *Milk (whole) 0.05

31. THIOMETON Foodgrains 0.025 (Residues determined Milled foodgrains 0.006 as thiometon its Fmits 0.5 sulfoxide and Potatoes, Carrots and Sugar 0.05 sulphone expressed beets as thiometon) Other vegetables 0.5

♦Soluble in water and lienee not necessary to mention on fat basis 211 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 212

36. Glyphosate STATEMENT-III 37. Gilberlic acid Pesticides in use for over two years for which 38. Isoproturon permissible levels have not been laid down 39. Lime sulphur under the Prevention of Food Adultration 40. Maleic Hydrazide Rules, 1955 41. Mancozeb 42. MCPA 1. Alachler 43. Menazon 2. Aldicarb 44. MEMC 3. Alpha napthyl acetic acid 45. Methabenzthiazuron 4. Atrazine 46. Metoxuron 5. Barium Carbonate 47. MSMA 6. Benomyl 48. Nickel chloride 7. B.H.C. 49. Nicotine sulphate 8. Benthiocarb 50. Nitrofen 9. Butachlor 5 1. Oxydemeton-methyl 10. Calcium cyanide 52. Paris Green (Copper aceto 11. Captafol arsenite) 12. Captan 53. Paradichlorobenzene 13. Carbendazim 54. PCNB 14. Carbofuran 55. Pentachlorophenol (PCP) 15. Carboxin 56. Phenthoate 16. Chlormequate chloride 57. Phorate 17. Copper oxychloride 58. PMA 18. Copper sulphate 59. Propanil 19. Cormachlor 60. Propoxur 20. Cuprous oxide 61. Quinalphos 21. Cypermethrin 62. Sevidol (4:4 Carbaryl and Gamma 22. Delapon BHC) 23. Decamethrin 63. Simazine 24. Di bromoc h 1 o rop ropane (DBC P) 64. Sirmate 25. D.D. Mixture 65. Streptocycline 26. Dinocap 66. Sulphur 27. Diu ron 67. Temephos 28. EDCT Mixture (3:1) 68. Tetradifon 29. Ediphenphos 69. Toxaphene 30. EMC 70. Triallate 31. Ethepon 71. Trochloro Acetic Acid (TCA) 32. Fen th ion 72. Tridemorph 33. Fenvalerate 73. Th i ram 34. Ferbam 74. Warfarin 35. Fluchloralin 213 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA10,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 214

75.. Zinc Phosphide 1. Rajgir (Bihar) 76. Zineb 2. Nalanda (Bihar) 77. Ziram 3. Bodhgaya (Bihar) 4. Sarvasti (U.P.) Production of Selected Architectural Monuments 5. Kushinagar (U.P.) 6. Sarnath (U.P.) 2900. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: Will 7. Piprahwa (U.P.) the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: 8. Fatehpur Sikri (U.P.) 9. Brajbhoomi (U.P.) (a) whether Government have decided 10. Konark (Orissa) to protect and develop selected 11. Udaigiri (Orissa) architectural monuments under the National Heritage Project in the country; 12. Ratnagiri (Orissa) 13. Lalitgiri (Orissa) (b) if so, the details thereof; 14. Hampi (Karnataka)

(c) whethe'r Government have prepared 15. Badami (Karnataka) land use plans and master plans for the se­ 16. Pattadakal (Karnataka) lected architectural sites; 17. Aihole (Karnataka) 18. Avantipur (J & K) (cl) if so, the details thereof; 19. Matand 0 & K) (e) whether these have been sent to 20. Pandrethan (J & K) State Governments for their 21. Mewar Complex (Rajasthan) implementation; and The Master Plans have been prepared in (f) if so, the reaction of the State Gov­ consultation with the State Governments ernments thereto? concerned and they are being implemented in parts depending upon their requirements THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and availability of resources. DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN Beneficiaries Under 'Million Wells' RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. Scheme SHAH I): (a) and (b). Ancient and historical monuments, which are more than 100 years 2901. SHRI V S. KRISHNA IYER: Will the old and on detailed examination are found Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to to be of National Importance in view of state: their outstanding archaeological, artistic and historical importance are declared protected under the Ancient Monuments and (a) the number of beneficiaries during Archaeological Sites and Remains Act, 1958 the current year under 'Million Wells' for preservation and maintenance. There is Scheme in Karnataka; no National Heritage Project with the Archaeological Survey for protection and (b) the total allocation of funds made to development of selected architectural Karnataka during the current year under the monuments. above scheme;

(c) to (f). The Central Department of (c) the extent of land holding that a Tourism has got prepared Master Plans for Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Tribe the following archaeological centres:- farmer has to hold to avail of this scheme; 215 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 216

(cl) whether there is any proposal to (b) if so, the details of machinery relax the limit of land holding to help the involved to monitor the shrimp fishing poor SC/ST farmers; and along the east coast; (c) whether any Central team visited the (e) whether the funds earmarked for the coastal states to take stock of the situation; above scheme can be utilised for other pur­ pose if no SC/ST farmer forward to reap the (d) if so, the details thereof; and benefit under the scheme? (e) the ameliorative measures taken by THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Covemment and assistance given to coastal DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI States thereby assisting the shrimp fishing industry ai large? JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) and (b). During the year 1988-89, the total number of wells to be constructed under the Million THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Wells Scheme in Karnataka is 4,000 (2,000 DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND under NREP and 2,000 under RLECP). A COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF total amount of Rs. 820.00 lakhs has been AGRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): allocated for the purpose. (a) The shrimp production statistics as furnished by State Governments for east (c) and (d). As per the guidelines of the coast for the years 1985 to 1987 are given Scheme, wells which have a command area below: - of 1 hect. can be taken up under the scheme. Croup wells which could include Year smaller land holders belonging to SC/ST Shrimp production and which can irrigate more than I hect. are (Total tonnes) given priority. 1985 29426 (e) In case it is found that the target fixed 1986 for construction of million wells for any of 37284 the States cannot be achieved and the same 1987 36445 is revised, the surplus funds from the alloca­ (Provisional) tion for Million Wells Scheme are permitted The above catch statistics do not indicate to the utilised for other normal works al­ any dismal failure of shrimp fishing along lowed to be taken up under National Rural the east coast. Employment Programme and Rural Landless Employment Guarantee Programme. (b) Does not arise.

Assistance to Shrimp Fishing Industry (c) and (d). Members of a technical Along East Coast committee constituted to study the reported decline in shrimp catch visited some of the 2902. SHRI K. PRADHANI: coastal States in 1986-87. The report of the SHRI SOMNATFI RATH: Committee has been sent to States and SHRI T. BALA COUD: Union Territory Governments for their comments. Will the Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to state; (e) Covemment of India have taken a number of steps to raise the prawn produc­ tion. Some of the important steps are:- (a) whether Covemment has monitored the dismal failure of shrimp fishing for the i) Implementation of a Centrally second consecutive year along the east Sponsored Scheme on Integrated coast; Brackishwater Fish Farm Devel­ 217 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 10,1910(SAM) Written Answers 218

opment for establishment of (b) and (c). Since the Integrated Fisheries Brackishwater Farms, Prawn Project's developmental work aims at long Hatcheries, Brackishwater Fish term benefits to the fishermen and con­ Farmers' Development Agencies sumers, the delay has not adversely affected for providing financial and techni­ the fishermen. cal assistance to farmers of the coastal States etc. Shortage of Carbon Steel Melting Scrap

ii) UNDP assisted coastal Aquacul­ 2904. SHRI VIJAY N. PATEL: Will the ture project has been taken up to Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased standardise brackishwater to state: aquaculture, Hatchery and Feed formulation technology through (a) whether Government are aware of UNDP experts besides arranging the acute shortage of Carbon steel melting training programme abroad for scrap; technical persons from States and the Centre. (b) the total generation of scrap for melting purposes from indigenous sources; iii) The Marine Products Export De­ velopment Authority (MPEDA) (c) the total requirement of steel melting have set up* regional centres to or­ scrap for industrial purposes in a year; ganise seminars, Farmer's meet, Training programmes and intro­ (d) whether Government have duced a subsidy assistance scheme considered need of importing carbon steel for development of-Prawn farms, scrap; Flatcheries arid seed banks tor the coastal farmers. (e) if so, the quantity of scrap required to be imported to meet the demand of Delay in Implementation of Integrated industry during current year; and Fishery Project (f) whether Government have released 2903. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: Will the sufficient foreign exchange for import of Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to Carbon Steel Scrap to meet the gap state: between demand and supply inclusive of indigenous availability? (a) the reasons for delay in implementa­ tion of the Integrated Fishery Project; THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI M.L. FOTEDAR): (a) Attention of the (b) whether fisherman along the east Government has been drawn to the coast have been affected by this delay; and reported shortage of steel melting scrap in the country. (c) if so, the details thereof? (b) and (c). The requirement of steel THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE melting scrap for the mini steel industry has DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND been assessed at about 4.7 million tonnes COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF during 1988-89. Approximately, 45% of the ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM IAL. YADAV): total demand of scrap of the mini steel (a) Covemment have sanctioned industry is expected to be available from establishment of a unit of Integrated indigenous sources during the current year. Fisheries Project Cochin at Visakhapatnam in March, 1988. The unit could not begin to (d) Yes, Sir. function yet due to non-availability of infrastructures facilities such as building, (e) and (f). Covemment plans to import Cold Storage, Ice Plant etc. adequate quantities of steel melting scrap 219 Written Answm DECEMBER 1,1988 Written A nsw m 220

during 1988-89 to meet the requirements of (c) the details of amount spent annually the industry. About 1.5 million tonnes of on Agricultural Research Institutions and scrap, including hot briquetted iron, has al­ Universities which are engaged in ready been imported. Further imports are developing better quality of seeds in the being made during the current year. country; and

Import of Seeds (d) Government's policy to produce bet­ ter quality seeds in the country and save for­ 2905. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: Will the eign exchange? Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) the details of seeds imported during DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND the last three years; COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (b) the amount spent on the import of (a) and (b). The details of seeds imported seeds annually and the names of the coun­ during 1983-84, 1984-85 and 1985-86, as tries from which seeds are being imported; available, are as under:-

Qty in Tonnes Value in Lakh Rupees

1983-84 1984-85 1985-«6 Source Qty. Value Qty. Value Qty. Value

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 303 21.82 64 28.42 33.172 30.16 Japan,U.S.A., Nepal, Australia, Netherland, Singapore, Zimbabwe, Denmark, German F. Republic, Italy, Thailand and Guinea.

(c) Year-wise expenditure on crop Insti­ seed produced indigenously is expected to tutes, National Research Centres, Project meet the requirement of the country. Directorates and all Agricultural Universities for 1985-86 to 1987-88 are as follows:- Holding Company Concept for Reorganisation of Major Ports

Year (Rs. in lakhs) 2906. DR. B. L. SHAILESH. Will the 1985-86 8886.80 Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be 1986-87 8941.00 pleased to state: 1987-88 10026.05 (a) whether there is any proposal for a (d) Government of India is giving highest holding company concept for reorganisation priority to the development of improved va­ of major ports; rieties/hybrids of various crops and produc­ tion of breeder seeds and has a policy to (b) if so, the modalities thereof; and evolve and multiply high quality seeds of hy­ brid varieties of various crops. The quality (c) the extent to which it is likely to ini- 221 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 10,1910(SAM) Written Answers 222 prove the efficiency and lower the handling National Literacy Mission and the action costs of ports? taken thereon?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND RAJESH PILOT): (a) No, Sir. CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. (b) and (c). Do not arise. SHAH I): (a) and (b). The National Literacy Mission was approved by the Government Expansion of Bhilai Steel Plant in January 1988. The Mission aims at imparting functional literacy to 80 million 2907. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: Will the adult illiterates in 15-35 age-group - 30 Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased million by 1990 and additional 50 million by to state: 1995. Several strategies are being adopted to achieve the objective. The following (a) whether the 4 million tonnes expan­ steps have so far been taken in this regard. sion programme of Bhilai Steel Plant has been completed; (i) The entire programme of Adult Education has been reviewed and (b) if not, when it is likely to be com­ geared to generate and sustain pleted; motivation at all levels, especially of learners. (c) whether any equipment is still to be supplied by Heavy Engineering Corporation (ii) A National Campaign for mass and USSR; and mobilisation of NLM was launched by the Prime Minister on 5th May, (d) if so, the steps taken to expedite the 1988 at Vigyan Bhawan, New supply of equipment? Delhi.

THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES (iii) Under the mass programme of (SHRI M.L. FOTEDAR): (a) Yes, Sir. functional literacy educational institutions, teachers, students, (b) Does not arise. youths, Military and para-military personnel, ex-servicemen, (c) No, Sir. housewives, employers, trade unions, railways and prison (d) Does not arise. management staff are being involved on a voluntary basis to Recommendations made by the Report on take up literacy work. National Literacy Mission (iv) The central scheme of grant-in-aid 2908. SHRI IC RAMAMURTHY: Will the for voluntary agencies has been re­ Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE vised, considerably simplified and DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: liberalised. During the year 1988- 89 a sum of Rs. 6.60 crores have (a) the recommendations contained in been sanctioned to voluntary the Report on the National Literacy Mission; agencies for undertaking various literacy projects. Approval has (b) the action taken on the recommenda­ been accorded to approximately tions; and 500 voluntary agencies for taking up programmes under NLM. (c) the recommendations made by the Task Forces set up in different areas of the (v) In order that the neo-literates do 223 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 224

not relapse into illiteracy a new 2. Jana Shikshan Nilayams and Su­ scheme of Jana Shikshan Nilayams pervision have been formulated and 10,065 JSNs have been sanctioned to vari­ 3. Technology Demonstration ous States/UTs. They are in the Process process of being set up. 4. MIS and Evaluation (vi) 40 districts have been identified for application of techno- 5. Media pedagogic inputs to improve the quality of the literacy programmes. 6. National Institute of Adult Educa­ A number of collaborating agencies tion have been identified and they are working on designing a number of 7. National Authority on Adult Edu­ techno-pedagogic inputs such as cation solar power packs, improved black boards, roller boards, slates, 8. Training of Instructors and Preraks dustless chalk and electronic gadgets, etc. 9. Adult Education and Womens Equality (vii) The National Literacy Mission Au­ thority has been constituted. State 10. Youth Mobilisation and Training. Governments have been requested to set up State Literacy They Task Forces submitted their reports Mission Authorities. States have in September, 87. After the approval of the also been requested to appoint National Literacy Mission by the Govern­ State and District Mission Leaders. ment in January 88 the reports of the Task (viii) To provide necessary resource Forces were utilised in the formulation of support, State Resource Centres various schemes and developing detailed strategies and action plans for the have been strengthened and implementation of the Mission. District Resource Units are being set up. Allocation of Funds for Poverty Alleviation (ix) According to the information fur­ Programmes nished by the State Governments and various implementing 2909. SMT. N. P. JHANSI LAKSHMI: Will agencies 2,64,375 Adult Education the Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to state: Centres were running on 30th September, 1988 with an enrolment of 79.26 lakh persons. (a) the funds made available to States, Statewise under the poverty alleviation pro­ grammes from April, 1988 till September, 1988; (c) 10 Task Forces were formed in June- July 1987 for preparation of designs on im­ (b) the funds utilised in each State during plementation of the programmes envisaged this period; and in the National Literacy Mission. The Task Forces were set up in the following areas (c) the number of persons brought above which were crucial in the formulation and the poverty line during this period, State- implementation of the programmes under wise? the Mission. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1. State Resource Centres DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT 225. Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(&4/C4) Written Answers 226

IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI ous and gradual process and it takes time to JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) and (b). There observe the impact*' of the programme. are three major anti-poverty programmes of Under IRDP, a monthly concurrent this Department namely Integrated Rural evaluation of the programme has been Development Programme (IRDP), National taken up since October, 1985. According Rural Employment Programme (NREP) and concurrent evaluation report for January- Rural Landless Employment Cuarantee December, 1987, at the national level about Programme (RLECP). Statements indicating 60% of old sample families assisted under statewise total allocation for IRDP, NREP the programme have crossed the poverty and RLECP for the year 1988-89 and funds line of Rs. 3500 and 13% revised poverty utilised upto September, 1988 are given in line of Rs. 6400. About 78% of families Statements I, II and III below. received additional income from the assets. According this report, statewise families crossing the poverty line is given in (c) Crossing the poverty line is a continu­ Statement-IV below.

STATEMENT-1 Physical & Financial Progress under IRDP 7986-59 till Sep. 1988

SI. Name of the Allocation Utilisation Families No. States/UTs. (Rs. in (Rs. in Assisted lakhs) lakhs) (Nos)

1 2 3 4 5

1. Andhra Pradesh 4922.08 2588.81 112088 2. Arunachal Pradesh 427.20 64.59 1843 3. Assam 1493.76 332.03 15695 4. Bihar 9609.33 3154.08 162120 5. Coa 89.00 38.97 2237 6. Gujarat 2306.64 1077.10 54857 7. Haryana 691.08 338.18 15804 8. Himachal Pradesh 369.06 174.38 13395 9. J&K 572.09 74.66 5427 10. Karnataka 2973.30 1221.90 56596 11. Kerala 1805.79 731.93 35639 12. Madhya Pradesh 6599.79 2047.13 107663 13. Maharashtra 5076.53 1777.02 89571 14. Manipur 118.61 32.08 1247 15. Meghalaya 192.30 82.60 1447 16. Mizoram 178.00 75.95 2806 17. Nagaland 186.90 65.84 872 18. Orissa 3557.74 1297.26 75502 19. Punjab 718.50 254.98 16991 227 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 228

5 1 2 3 4 1132.83 54649 20. Rajasthan 3229.64 15.81 599 21. Sikkim 35.60 136194 22. Tamil Nadu 4697.52 2567.70 23. Tripura 164.18 224.96 8534 24. Uttar Pradesh 13186.37 4345.34 212287 25. West Bengal 5389.59 1761.85 100918 26. A & N Islands 44.50 12.61 580 27. Chandigarh 8.90 - - 28. D & N Haveli 8.90 3.12 129 29. Delhi 44.50 14.52 596 30. Daman & Diu 17.80 8.50 185 31. Lakshadweep 44.50 7.14 145 32. Pondicherry 35.60 8.47 797

All India 68795.30 25532.34 1286813

STATEMENT-II Performance under NREP during 1988-89 upto September, 1988.

SI. Name of the Total Utilisation Employment No. States/UTs. allocation (Rs. in lakhs) Cenerated (Rs. in lakhs) (lakhs mandays) 1 2 3 4 5

1. Andhra Pradesh 3845.00 2168.95 85.34 2. Arunachal Pradesh 44.00 5.52 0.08 3. Assam 366.00 338.17 10.86 4. Bihar 6110.00 4881.97 175.39 5. Goa 45.00 39.43 1.05 6. Gujarat 1314.00 1669.94 83.06 7. Haryana 418.00 290.69 7.25 8. Himachal Pradesh 253.00 212.02 10.02 9. J & K 304.00 110.53 4.06 10. Karnataka 1723.00 1545.08 71.74 11. Kerala 1584.00 1581.81 57.92 12. Madhya Pradesh 3171.00 3023.55 182-89 13. Maharashtra 2995.00 1014.16 52.04 229 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 10, 191CX&4K4) Written Antwen 230

2 3 4 5 1 ...... —\ ...... 14. Manipur 50.00 44.11 3.17 15. Meghalaya 55.00 31.98 1.16 16. Mizoram 35.00 38.77 0.96 17. Nagaland 40.00 1 33.07 1.16 18. Orissa 1658.00 1221.65 74.10 19. Punjab 446.00 368.38 8.51 20. Rajasthan 1642.00 2073.86 157.59 21. Sikkim 35.00 30.24 1.56 22. Tamil Nadu v 3056.00 4596.08 241.78 23. Tripura 122.00 82.34 4.69 24. Uttar Pradesh 7398.00 3738.89 146.35 25. West Bengal 3261.00 1763.12 59.50 26. A & N Islands 60.00 9.33 0.64 27. Chandigarh 20.00 5.47 0.14 28. D & N Haveli 30.00 13.12 0.80 29. Delhi 40.00 6.76 0.34 30. Daman & Diu 20.00 NR NR 31. Lakshadweep 30.00 10.95 0.69 32. Pondicherry 50.00 26.40 0.71 Estt. Exp. 101.00

All India 40821.00 30976.34 1445.55

STATEMENT-III Performance under NREP during 1988-89 upto September; 1988.

SI. Name of the Resource Resource Employment No. States/UTs. allocation utilised Generation (Rs. in lakhs) (Rs. in lakhs lakhs) mandays) 1 2 3 4 5

1. Andhra Pradesh 6561.90 1789.23 80.50 2. Arunachal Pradesh 50.50 5.41 0.20 3. Assam 1374.10 289.97 6.40 4. Bihar 9653.80 3904.43 118.90 5. Coa 78.90 26.45 0.76 6. Gujarat 2261.80 807.23 38.19 7. Haryana 644.00 129.71 2.84 231 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,19 88 Wrimn Answm 232

1 2 3 4 5

8. Himachal Pradesh 340.80 112.10 5.50 9. J&K 414.40 86.57 2.32 10. Karnataka 3166.10 1402.34 86.73 11. Kerala 2579.70 833.30 32.90 12. Madhya Pradesh 5699.50 2053.04 114.39 13. Maharashtra 5482.70 1537.22 84.05 14. Manipur 71.50 18.98 0.84 15. Meghalaya 95.55 32.88 0.84 16. Mizoram 43.00 38.22 0.77 17. Nagaland 84.00 41.33 1.45 18. Orissa 3030.00 1024.72 59.63 19. Punjab 678.50 339.26 6.78 20. Rajasthan 2697.10 1334.98 83.07 21. Sikkim 44.00 67.00 1.66 22. Tamil Nadu 5406.65 2525.78 146.02 23. Tripura 184.50 34.80 1.59 24. Uttar Pradesh 1 1975.60 2397.23 114.06 25. West Bengal 5193.85 1261.34 54.99 26. A & N Islands 41.30 6.03 0.26 27. Chandigarh - - - 28. D & N Haveli 21.00 6.12 0.22 29. Delhi 1095 - - 30. Daman & Diu 44.75 8.91 0.45 31. Lakshadweep 20.30 4.92 0.30 32. Pondicherry 44.25 32.75 1.19

All India 67995.00 22152.25 1047.80

STATEMENT-IV

Percentage of Sample of Old Families Crossing the Poverty Line according to Concurrent Evalu- ation Study of IRDP Qan.-Dec. 1987)

SI. Name of the %age of families crossing No. States/UTs. poverty line of Rs. 3500 Rs. 6400 1 2 3 4

1. Andhra Pradesh 76 16 2. Arunacha! Pradesh 48 6 233 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 10,1910CSMA) Written Answers 234

1 2 3 4 3. Assam 83 31 4. Bihar 46 13 5. Goa 56 19 6. Gujarat 90 5 7. .Haryana 23 2 8. Himachal Pradesh 73 33 9. J&K 61 19 10. Karnataka 31 5 11. Kerala 46 5 12. Madhya Pradesh 53 8 13. Maharashtra 59 13 14. Manipur 87 20 15. Meghalaya 26 5 16. Mizoram 83 32 17. Nagaland 65 25 18. Orissa 49 10 19. Punjab 95 24 20. Rajasthan 54 13 21. Sikkim 10 0 22. Tamil Nadu 49 5 23. Tripura 98 24 24. Uttar Pradesh 66 12 25. West Bengal 73 11 26. A & N Islands 80 3 27. Chandigarh 100 45 28. D & N Haveli 100 0 29. Delhi 95 65 30. Daman & Diu 56 19 31. Lakshadweep 67 17 32. Pondicherry 45 15

All India 60 13

[Translation] (a) whether Government propose to take some concrete steps for enhancing the Production of 2Jjnc, Lead and Silver production of Zinc, Lead and Silver.

2910. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR (b) if so, the details thereof; and TRIPATHI: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: (c) if not, how Government is contem­ 235 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 236 plating to increase the production of afore­ T.Konningii in controlling damping off in said metals? tomato and brinjai and wilt and root rots in lentil and chickpea. Similar researches done THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES at the Indian Agricultural Research Institute, (SHRI M. L. FOTEDAR): (a) and (b). For New Delhi were able to control Fusarium enhancing the production of Zinc, Lead and wilts of muskmelon and bottlegourd by Silver, Covemment has recently approved seed and soil application o i Bad I subtilis, As­ an Integrated Project for the development pergillus Miger and Trichodema viridae, in of Rampura-Agucha Zinc-Lead Mine in Distt. pot experiments. The effectiveness of these Bhilwara and Zinc-Lead Smelter at biological agents under large scale field Chanderiya in Distt. Chittorgarh of trials is yet to be established. Rajasthan by Hindustan Zinc Limited, a public sector undertaking of the (c) No, Sir. Department of Mines, at a terminal cost of Rs. 617.20 crores. The project when (d) Question does not arise. completed will have an installed capacity to produce 70,000 tonnes of zinc and 35,000 ICAR Study on Presence of Pesticides in tonnes of lead per annum besides 74 Food tonnes of silver per annum as by-product. 2912. DR. C. VIJAYA RAMA RAO: Will (c) Does not arise. the Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to state: [English] (a) whether studies made by the Indian Development of Biological Agents Council of Agricultural Research conclusively shows the presence of pesticides in food 2911. DR. C. VIJAYA RAMA RAO: Will beyond permissible limits, if so, the details the Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to thereof; state: (b) whether such studies have been con­ (a) whether Covemment are aware of bi­ ducted on all the pesticides registered in the ological agents developed for the control of country; and soil borne plant pathogens; (c) if so, the details thereof? (b) if so, the details thereof; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) whether the cost-benefit ratio has DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURAL been worked out for mass culturing and in­ RESEARCH AND EDUCATION IN THE troduction of such biological agents; and MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI HARI KRISHNA SHASTRI): (a) In the field crops, (d) if so, the details thereof? residues for 23 insecticides have so far been studied levels are below the permissible THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE limit. Moreover, waiting period, washing, DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURAL cooking, dehydration, rubbing etc. also help RESEARCH AND EDUCATION IN THE in reducing the residue levels considerably. MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI HARI In some cases, however, residues do exceed KRISHNA SHASTRI): (a) Yes, Sir. the prescribed tolerance levels mainly due to the indiscriminate use of a pesticide as (b) Researches done at C.B. Pant Univer­ well as wrong time and method of sity of Agriculture and Technology, Pantna- application. gar has successfully demonstrated the usefulness of two species of biological agents namely Trichodema harzianum and (b) No. Sir. 237 Written Answ m AGRAHAYANA 10,1910(54/04) Written Answ m 238

(c) Not all the pesticides registered in Kharif 1987 include Assam, Bihar, Himachal the country have been studied for their Pradesh, Kerala, Goa, Tripura, Uttar Pradesh residues in food crops. However, more and West Bengal. studies are being contemplated in thcf All Indian Coordinated Research project on Post Created/Vacant in ICCR Pesticide Residues. 2914. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: Will the Implementation of Crop Insurance Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased Scheme at Village Level to state:

2913. SHRI C. JANCA REDDY: Will the (a) the details of posts, categorywise, Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to lying vacant and created separately during state: the last three years by Indian Council for Cultural Relations and the steps taken by (a) the States which have reduced the the Council to fill these up; and unit size of Crop Insurance Scheme to village level; (b) the number of posts^out of those reserved for Scheduled Castes and (b) whether it has been decided that Scheduled Tribes and filled up during the General Insurance Corporation of India last three years? would work our complete details of claims within two months of the receipt of yield- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE data by them from the State Governments; MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI K. and NATWAR SINGH): (a) Details of posts (category-wise) lying vacant as on 31.03/88 (c) if so, the States which have been paid and of those created during 3 years ending claims within the prescribed time limit? 31.03.1988 are given in statements I & II below. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND The vacancies are filled as per the deci­ COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF sions of the Governing Body of the Council ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): by direct recruitment and by promotions on (a) No State under the Comprehensive the basis of 50% quota from either side. Crop Insurance Scheme (CCIS) has so far During the past three years Departmental reduced the unit size of Crop Insurance to Promotion Committees have met four times village level. to consider cases of promo­ tions/confirmations etc. of the staff. Direct recruitment has also been made by advertis­ (b) and (c). It has been decided that the ing the vacancies and calling nominations General Insurance Corporation of India from Employment Exchange and holding (GIC) would work out complete details of written tests/interviews thereafter. payable claims within two months of the re­ ceipt of the yield data by them from the (b) The number of persons belonging to State Governments and send immediately Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes re­ the details of such claims to the cruited during the last 3 years is 6 out of 39. Government of India for approval. The No specific quota has however been pre­ States which have been paid claims by the scribed so far for Scheduled Castes and GIC under the CCIS after this decision for Scheduled Tribes. 239 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 240

STATEMENT-1

SI No. Post No. Remarks

Senior Programme Utilised by promotion two officers Director Rs. 1200-2000 of the rank of Programme Officers (Pre-revised) to the rank of Programme Directors Rs. 1200-1600 (Pre-revised)

2. Programme Officers (Since filled in by direct recruitment on the recommendations of Selection Committee in May-June 1988)

3. Exhibition Officer Vacant since June '87. Likely to be utilised soon. ! 4. Publication Asstt. Vacant for more than three years. Continuation of the post to be reviewed.

5. Staff Artist Vacant for more than three years. Continuation of the post to be reviewed.

6. Asstt. Editor (Arabic) Vacant for more than three years. Continuation of the post to be reviewed.

7. Maintenance Officer Vacant since 30.06.84 consequent on retirement of the incumbent. Likely to be utilised soon.

Assistant Vacant since June '87. Likely to be utilised soon.

Sr. Stenographers 2 3 Jr. Asstts. have been adjusted against 3 of the 5 vacant posts. Two posts vacant since November '87. Likely to be utilised soon.

10. Library Asstt. 2 Vacant for more than three years. Continuation of the post to be reviewed.

11. Jr. Stenographers 1 Vacant since November '87. Likely to be utilised soon.

12. Chowkidar 1 Adjusted one Peon against one of the 2 vacant posts. One post vacant since 1987. Likely to be utilised soon.

13. Safai Karamchari 2 Vacant for more than three years. Likely to be utilised soon. 241 WrittenAnswers AGRAHAYANA 10,1910(MXA) Written Answers 242

STATEMENT-II

S. No. Post No. Remarks (Created in 1986-87)

1. Programme Directors 2 For the Indian Cultural Centres abroad.

2. Programme Otricers 2 For new projects at Headquarters.

3. Exhibition Officer 1 -do-

4. Asstt. Programme 2 -do- Officers

5. Sr. Stenographers 2 -do-

6. Assistant 1 -do-

7. Clerk 1 -do-

8. Staff Car Drivers 3*

9. Despatch Rider 1*

10. Chowkidars 3 For Regional Offices within India

* Under Staff Car Rules, the post of driver is created automatically with the acquisition of a vehicle.

Assistance for Construction of Aroor- (d) if so, details thereof; and Arukutty Bridge in Kerala (e) the present stage of the proposal?

2915. SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHO- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THAMAN: Will the Minister of SURFACE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI TRANSPORT be pleased to state: RAJESH PILOT): (a) to (e). The Govt, of Kerala have projected a list of 8 works (a) whether there was any proposal for including the Aroor-Arukutty Bridge costing Central assistance for construction of Aroor- about Rs. 8.00 crores for being financed out Arukutty Bridge in Alleppey District, Kerala; of Central Road Fund (Allocations) against their accruals of Rs. 229.63 lakhs upto the (b) if so, whether the Union Government end of March, 1990. As the aforesaid bridge had sought comments from the Govt, of was given only a low priority in the list of Kerala in this regard; works by the State Govt, and as the available funds cannot finance all the items (c) if so, whether comments from the in the list, the Aroor-Arukutty bridge could State Govt, have been received; not be included in the programme. 243 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 244

Passport Adalats found that delayed police reports and in­ complete applications were the main causes 2916. SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHO- of delay. Action has been taken to THAMAN: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL streamline procedures in respect of both AFFAIRS be pleased to state: these matters.

(a) whether Passport Adalats are being, SC/ST Students in Navodaya Vidyalayas held in the different Regional Pass-port Offices in the Country; 2917. SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE (b) if so, the details of the Adalats held DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: during 1988, so far; (a) the number of Navodaya Vidyalayas (c) the complaints/grievances disposed working at present; off by each of the Adalats; and (b) the number of students belonging to Scheduled Castes/Scheduled Tribes and (d) the extent to which such Adalats have Backward Communities in these Vidyalayas; helped in expediting and streamlining the and procedure for issuing of Passports? (c) the expenditure incurred by Govern­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ment per student? MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND (b) and (c). CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN (i) Coa (12 April 1988) No complaints RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. SHAHI): (a) 256. (ii) Bombay (14 April 1988) 8 grievances were received and dis­ (b) During the last four years, 6316 stu­ posed off. dents belonging to Scheduled Castes and 3986 students belonging to Scheduled (iii) Hyderabad (13 May 1988) 15 Tribes have been admitted/selected for grievances were received and dis­ admission in the Navodaya Vidyalayas. No posed off. separate statistics are maintained about the students belonging to Backward (iv) Cochin (19 July 1988) 9 complaints Communities. were received and disposed off. (c) The Government is incurring an ex­ (v) Trivandrum (20 July 1988) 5 com­ penditure of Rs. 5,000 per student per an­ plaints were received and num approximately. disposed off. Vocational Schools in Delhi All these Adalats were presided over by the Chief Passport Officer. As the major 2918. SHRIMATI PRABHAWATI GUPTA: cause of Public grievances at the Passport Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE Adalats were the delayed reports from the DEVELOPMENt be pleased to state: police, the Chief Passport. Officer met in each place senior Police Officers and re­ (a) the number of Senior Secondary quested their cooperation for early police Schools in Delhi which have vocational reporting. Courses;

(d) The Adalats helped in ascertaining (b) the details of vocational courses in the main causes of public grievances. It was these schools; and 245 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 10,1910(S4K4) Written Answers 246

(c) the number of schools which are pro­and 8th June, 1988 in the Idukki region had posed to be added during the next two been reported by the State Government of years? Kerala.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) The State Government of Kerala have DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND reported damage to 2698 houses in the CULTURE IN tHE MINISTRY OF HUMAN Idukki district due to tremors, isolated RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L P. heavy rains, etc. The damage to houses and SHAHI): (a) 87 Senior Secondary Schools in public properties in this district has been Delhi are offering vocational courses. assessed at Rs. 2.00 lakhs by the State Government. (b) Vocational Courses available in Delhi schools are on Health Care & Beauty Cul­ (c) Ceilings of expenditure of Rs. 10.55 ture, Textile & Design, Dress Design & crores have been approved for relief in the Making, Computer Studies, Electronics wake of earthquake, heavy rains, floods etc. Technology, Ceneral Insurance, to the State of Kerala. Stenography (English), Stenography(Hindi) Auditing & Accountancy, Office Encouragement of Private Sector Management & Secretariat Practice, Coldstorage Marketing & Salesmanship, Tourism & Travel Techniques, Applied Horticulture, 2920. SHRI P. R. S. VENKATESAN: Will Structure & Fabrication Technology, the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING Electrical Technology, Automobile INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: Technology, Air-conditioning & Refrigeration Technology, Ophtalmic Techniques, (a) whether there is any new scheme to Banking, Nutrition & Food Preparation, and encourage Private Sector coldstorage; and library Science. (b) if so, the details thereof? (c) 40 schools are proposed to be added during the next two years. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING IN­ Tremors in Idukki District of Kerala DUSTRIES (SHRI JACDISH 7YTLER): (a) No new scheme has yet been formulated to this 2919. PROF P. J. KURIEN: Will the regard. Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to state: (b) Does not arise.

(a) whether there were tremors in the Branch of the Central Institute of Indian Idukki district of Kerala continuously for a Languages in the North-East few days recently; 2921. N. TOMBI SINCH: Will the Minis­ (b) if so, the total loss suffered in mone­ ter of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT tary terms; and be pleased to state:

(c) the assistance given by Union Gov­ (a) whether Covemment propose to ernment to Kerala Government in this re­ open a branch of the Central Institute of gard? Indian Languages, Mysore in the North East to facilitate closer look and deeper research THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE on the tribal languages of the region; DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF (b) the categories of the languages being AGRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): developed and promoted by the Institute at (a) Tremors of moderate intensity on the 7th present; 247 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 248

(c) the place of Manipuri in the classifica­ (d) Does not arise. tion and whether the same has been cate­ Allocation of Funds under RLECP gorised wrongly as a tribal larfguage; and 2922. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS: Will (d) if so, the reasons thereof and the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to whether Covemment propose to make the state the number of projects of differe'nt necessary correction? States approved under the Rural Landless Employment Guarantee Programme for the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE year 1988-89 and the funds and foodgrains DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND allotted and released for the purpose so far? CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SHAH I): (a) Government have approved the DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT establishment of a North-Eastern Research IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI Extension Centre under the Central Institute JANARDHANA POOJARY): Under the Rural of Indian Languages at Guwahati. Landless Employment Guarantee Programme 35 projects have been (b) The Institute has developed all Indian approved during the year 1988-89 so far. languages, including tribal and border lan­ State/UT-wise details of projects approved guages. and funds/foodgrains allocated and released during the year are given in the (c) No, Sir. Statement below. STATEMENT State/UTs wise details of number of projects approval, funds and foodgrains allocated and released during 1988-89 under Rural landless Employment Guarantee Programme.

SI. State/UT No. of Allocation Releases made No. Projects C ash Food- Cash Food approved funds grains funds grains (Rs. (MTs.) (Rs. (MTs.)

lakhs) lakhs)

1 2 3 4 5 5 6

1. Andhra Pradesh 1 5825.00 42230.00 3214.13 21115.00 295.00 2. Arunacha! Pradesh ttr - 45.00 23.88 147.00 3. Assam - 1220.00 8830.00 1220.00 8830.00 4. Bihar 1 8570.00 62110.00 5540.25 31054.00 5. Goa - 70.00 480.00 38.25 240,00 6. Gujarat ■ 2000.00 15965.00 1121.13 7982.00 7. Haryana 2 570.00 4515.00 570.00 4515.00 8. Himachal Pradesh - 310.00 1765.00 310.00 1765.00 9. J&K * 370.00 2545.00 370.00 2545.00 10. Karnataka 1 2810.00 20410.00 1624.88 10204.00 11. Kerala 1 2290.00 16600.00 1329.25 83.00 12. Madhya Pradesh 2 5060,00 36645.00 2786.60 18322.00

13. Maharashtra 3 4850 00 38580.00 2682.13 19290.00 14. Manipur - 65.00 350.00 35.38 175.00 s.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7

15. Meghalaya . 85.00 570.00 50.75 2 8 5 .0 0 16. Mizoram - 40.00 160.00 21.25 8 0 .0 0

17. Nagaland - 75.00 485.00 4 1 .50 2 4 2 .0 0

18. O rissa 2 2690.00 19485.00 14 86.00 1 0942.00 19. Punjab - 600.00 4790.00 6 0 0.0 0 Nil 20. Rajasthan 2 2385.00 19030 00 23 76 .7 3 9 5 1 5 .0 0 21. Sikkim - 40.00 215.00 21.75 1 0 7.00 22. Tamil Nadu 3 4800.00 34765.00 4 6 25 .3 2 1 7 38 .0 0 23. Tripura 1 165.00 1055.00 89.38 5 2 7 .0 0 o 24. Uttar Pradesh 10 10600.00 80900.00 1 0600.00 8 0900.00 m O 1 8261.00 m 25. West Bengal 3 4595.00 36515.00 2 6 40 .0 0 5 CD 26. A & N Islands 1 40.00 70.00 21.75 3 5 .0 0 m 3 0 27. Chandigarh - Nil - Nil Nil

28. D & N Haveli - 20.00 55.00 10.88 2 7 .0 0 29. Daman & Diu - 10.00 50.00 5.25 2 5 .0 0 30. Delhi - 40.00 290.00 2 2 .63 1 4 5.0 0 31. Lakshadweep 1 20.00 15.00 11.12 7 .0 0 32. Pondicherry 1 40.00 230.00 2 2 .0 0 1 1 5.0 0

All India 35 60300.00 450000.00 4 3 5 1 2 .1 9 2 7 3 0 7 9 .0 0 253 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 10, WQ($AKA) Written Answers 254

Central Team Visit to Himachal Pradesh 7. Dr. V. M. Bedi, Regional Director, Regional Office for Health & Family 2923. PROF. NARAIN CHAND Welfare, Simla. PARASHAR: Will the Minister of ACRI­ CULTURE be pleased to state: In the course of its visit to Himachal Pradesh from 12-15th October, 1988 the (a) whether a Central Team to assess the Central Team visited the flood affected areas damage to life and property caused by the in the districts of Simla, Kinnaur, Kangra, heavy rains and floods visited Himachal Una, Hamirpurand Bilaspur. Pradesh during the month of October, 1988; (c) On the consideration of the assess­ ment of the flood damage made by Central (b) if so, the composition of the team Team and its recommendations with regard and the details about their visit to various to requirements for relief operations ceilings districts; and of expenditure amounting to Rs. 33.40 crores have been approved to Himachal (c) the brief details of the report submit­ Pradesh for flood relief. ted by the team and the decision taken by Government on the report? Measures for Revitalising Shipbuilding Industry THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 2924. SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI: Will DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF pleased to state: ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) Yes, Sir. (a) whether there is any proposal to pro­ vide a package of measures for revitalising (b) The composition of Central Team for the shipbuilding industry; Himachal Pradesh was as follows:- (b) if so, whether it includes emphasis on 1. Shri K. M. Lai, Financial Adviser, rehabilitating the small shipyards; and Ministry of Home Affairs( Leader), New Delhi. (c) if so, the details thereof?

2. Shri C. B. Rajeev, Director, De­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE partment of Expenditure, Ministry MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI of Finance, New Delhi. RAJESH PILOT): (a) Yes, Sir.

3. Shri A. P. S. Sethi, Executive Engi­ (b) and (c). The proposed measures re­ neer, Ministry of Surface Transport late to large ocean going ship building (RW), Office of Superintending sector only which are governed by Engineer, Chandigarh. Government of India's Pricing Policy based on International Parity Price. Small 4. Shri M. R. Verma, Deputy Director, shipyards are, therefore, not covered by the Central Water Commission, New proposed measures. Delhi. [Translation] 5. Shri Mohar Singh, Deputy Direc­ tor, N.B.O. Ministry of Urban De­ Scarcity of Fodder in Bihar velopment, New Delhi. 2925. SHRI KRISHNA PRATAP SINCH: 6. Sh. Surinder Singh, S.R.O., Plan­ Will the Minister of ACRICULTURE be ning Commission, New Delhi. pleased to state: 255 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answm 256

(a) whether there is acute scarcity of fod­ Kerala, Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh, Tamil der in Bihar particularly in District Hazarib- Nadu, Maharashtra, Goa, Madhya Pradesh, agh; Bihar, West Bengal, Assam, Tripura, Ma­ nipur and Gujarat since Sixth Five year Plan. (b) if so, whether Union Government have taken any steps to provide fodder to Production of Rapeseed and Mustard Bihar; and 2927. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: Will (c) if so, the details thereof? the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND (a) the targets set and achievements COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF made in the production of rapeseed and ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): mustard during the last three years; (a) to (c). This Ministry has not received any report of fodder scarcity in Bihar or in (b) whether Government are making Hazdribagh District. efforts to increase the production of rapeseed and mustard to achieve self- [English] sufficiency; (c) if so, the time by which the country is Economic Plantation Scheme likely to achieve self-sufficiency in the rape­ seed and mustard oil; and 2926. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to (d) the details of the projections made state: for Seventh Plan?

(a) the year since when the economic THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE plantation scheme is being implemented in DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND the country; COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (b) the name of the States where the (a) The targets fixed and achievements Centrally sponsored scheme is being imple­ made in the production of rapeseed and mented; mustard during the last three years are as under:- (c) whether the scheme is being imple­ mented in Orissa State; Year Target Achievement (d) the economically valuable species planted in Orissa under the scheme; and 1985-86 26.20 26.80 (e), the details thereof? 1986-87 33.86 26.35 1987-88 36.46 32.19 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (Provisional) DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF (b) to (d). In order to increase the ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): production of oilseeds including rapeseed- (a) to (e). Agriculture Ministry is not mustard in the country, two Centrally implementing any scheme entitled Sponsored Schemes, namely National "Economic Plantation Scheme" either in Oilseeds Development Project (NODP) and Orissa or in other parts of the country. Oilseeds Production Thrust Project (OPIP) Howeve.% schemes for Development of are in operation in major oilseeds including Cashew, Coconut and Spices are being rapeseed-mustard growing States. Under implemented in States such as Orissa, these schemes, financial assistance is 257 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1 910(SA/C4) Written Answers 258

provided to the States for critical inputs like (d) and (e). The Government of Japan quality seed, plant protection measures, have informed that the project may be improved farm implements, large sized posed only after a decision is taken on an all demonstrations etc. in order to induce the India Project on "Setting up of Chain of farmers to take up the cultivation of Shrimp Hatcheries" in coastal States already rapeseed-mustard on large scale to posed to them by Government of India. accelerate self-sufficiency in oilseeds in the country. Post-Catch Fish Losses 2929. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK; Demand projection for edible and non­ Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be edible oils in the country is not calculated pleased to state: on the basis of individual oil. But it is calculated on the basis of availability of all (a) whether some Coastal States are oils as a whole in the country. However, incurring post-catch fish losses; the production target fixed for rapeseed- mustard for the terminal year of Seventh (b) whether Government have a Plan i.e. 1989-90 is 38.2 lakh tonnes. proposal to set-up fishery industrial estates in Coastal States in order to reduce post­ Japanese Assistance to Prawn Hatchery in catch losses; and Orissa (c) if so, the name of the States where 2928. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: such estates are proposed to be opened? Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND (a) whether Government have a COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF proposal to establish a prawn hatchery at AGRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): Paradip in Orissa with Japanese assistance; (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. (b) whether Government also proposed (c) Fishery Industrial Estates have been to set up a Prawn farm at Kentakudi in sanctioned in March 1988 for setting up at Brahmagiri Block of Puri District of Orissa; Muthayapalem in Andhra Pradesh, Okha in Gujarat and Chudamani in Orissa. (c) if so, the estimated cost of both these projects; Diversification of Traditional Pattern of (d) the extent of Japanese assistance Agriculture expected to be made available for those projects; and 2930. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be (e) the time by which Government is pleased to state: likely to clear these projects? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether steps are being taken to DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND diversify the traditional pattern of COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF Agriculture in the country; ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) to (c). Government of Orissa submitted (b) if so, the specific steps taken in this a project on Modern Prawn Hatchery at regard and the Centrally sponsored Paradip in Cuttack district and programme introduced in Orissa for this Brackishwater Farm Complex at Kantakudi purpose; and in Puri district at an estimated total cost of Rs. 277.00 lakhs for seeking Japanese (c) the details of the results achieved assistance. under the above programme so far? 259 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 260

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) whether any agreement has been DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND signed with USSR in this regard; and COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (d) if so, the details thereof? (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) and (c). Steps for diversification ofMINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI traditional pattern of agriculture includes:- RAJESH PILOT): (a) to (d). A team consisting of representatives of the Inland (i) Diversification of traditional long Waterways Authority of India and Central duration crop varieties with short Inland Water Transport Corporation visited duration varieties. Soviet Union in September, 1988 to explore the possibilities of cooperation and (ii) Diversification of un-bunded assistance for development of IWT. The rainfed paddy land to less water Soviet Union has shown interest in exacting crops like Maize, Millets, extending assistance including training of pulses and oilseeds. personnel in IWT Sector. A Memorandum of Understanding has been signed by the (iii) Popularisation of inter-cropping in representative of the Inland Waterways the areas where growing of crops Authority of India on the above lines but no is possible only in one crop inter-Covernmental agreement has been season. signed.

(iv) Popularisation of sequence Construction of Houses Under Indira cropping in rainfed areas where Awas Yojana stored soil moisture can support 2932. SHRIV. S. KRISHNA IYER: such a dropping pattern. SHRI KAMALCHAUDHRY:

(v) Popularisation of paira cropping in Will the Minister of ACRICULTURE be low lands where only one crop of pleased to state: rice is grown, etc. (a) the amount given to States for the These changes are being brought construction of houses under the Indira through the motivation of farmers, however, Awas Yojana during the year 1988-89; and there is no Centrally Sponsored Scheme, in Orissa or any other State, being (b) the number of houses constructed implemented specifically for the purpose. and allotted to the poor people, State-wise?

Development of Inland Waterways with Soviet Assistance THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI 2931. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: Will the JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) and (b) Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be Funds are allocated to the States each year pleased to state: for the constaiction of houses under the Indira Awas Yojana, a sub-scheme of Rural (a) whether there is any proposal for the Landless Employment Guarantee development of Inland Waterways with Programme (RLEGP), out of the over-all Soviet assistance; allocations under RLECP to the States. The target of group for construction of houses (b) if so, the details of the waterways under the Yojana consists of persons proposed to be developed with the help of belonging to Scheduled Castes/Scheduled Soviet Union; Tribes who are below the poverty line and 261 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SA/C4) Written Answers 262 the freed bonded labourers in the rural allocated during 1988-89 under the Yojana and the number of houses reported to have areas. An amount of Rs. 124 crores (in cash) been constructed/allotted to the target has been allocated to the States for group since the launching of the Yojana construction of houses under the Yojana during the year 1985-86 to 1988-89 (so far) during the year 1988-89. A statement is given below. indicating the State/UT-wise amounts

STATEMENT

Amount Allocated to States for Construction of Houses under Indira Awas Yojana during 1988- 89 and the Number of Houses Constructed/Allotted to the Target Croup during the Period of 1985-86 to 1988-89 (So far) *

SI. State/UT Amount (in cash) No. of houses No. allocated during constructed/ 1988-89 allotted to the (Rs. in lakhs) target group during the period of 1985-86 to 1988-89 (so far) 1 2 3 4

1. Andhra Pradesh 1190.00 39686

2. Arunachal Pradesh 10.00 35

3. Assam 251.00 2119

4. Bihar 1750.00 44545

5. Goa 14.00 Nil

6. Gujarat 410.00 14831

7. Haryana 115.00 3086

8. Himachal Pradesh 78.00 495

9. Jammu & Kashmir 94.00 638

10. Karnataka 575.00 14745

11. Kerala 470.00 35489

12. Madhya Pradesh 1033.00 13034

13. Maharashtra 991.00 26773

14. Manipur 14.00 174

15. Meghalaya 19.00 156 263 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 264

4 1 2 3

16. Mizoram 10.00 99

17. Nagaland 15.00 396

18. Orissa 548.00 13578

19. Punjab 123.00 2035

20. Rajasthan 487.00 13491

21. Sikkim 10.00 262

22. Tamil Nadu 979.00 86376

23. Tripura 42.00 2302

24. Uttar Pradesh 2195.00 73970

25. West Bengal 939.00 14725

26. A & N Islands 10.00 -

27. Chandigarh - -

28. D & N Haveli 5.00 80

29. Daman & Diu 2.00 -

30. Delhi 8.00 216

31. Lakshadweep 3.00 Nil

32. Pondicherry 10.00 162

All India 12400.00 403505

Development Grants to Colleges in colleges are proposed to be sanctioned dur­ Bangalore ing 1988-89;

2933. SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER: Will (c) the names of the colleges which ap­ the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE plied for inclusion for purpose of University DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: Crants Commission grants; and

(a) the names of the colleges in Banga­ (d) the number of those selected for pur­ lore which have applied for development pose of University Crants Commission grants from the University Crants Commis­ grants? sion during 1988-89; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) whether development grants to those DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND 265 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SA/C4) Written Answers 266

CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: SHAH I): (a) The following colleges affiliated to the Bangalore University sought (a) the number of children selected dur­ financial assistance from the UCC during ing 1987 under the scheme of nurturing of 1988-89; sports talent; and

1. Govt. College, Chickballapur. (b) the assistance provided State-wise?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 2. R.V. Teachers' College, Jayanagar. DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS AND SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD 3. K.L.E. Society's S. Nijalingappa DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF College, Bangalore. HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA): (a) During 4. Sree Siddaganga College of Arts, 1987, a total of 479 children were selected Science and Commerce, Tumkur. under the scheme 'Spotting & Nurturing of Sports Talent and Adoption of Schools'. 5. Vijaya College, Bangalore.

(b) Under the scheme, financial assis­ (b) All the above colleges have been tance is provided by Sports Authority of sanctioned development grants by the India (S.A.I.) to the State Governments for UCC. holding talent contests and for creation/ im­ provement of infrastructure for the adopted (c) and (cl). There was only one applica­ schools. Besides, S.A.I. meets expenditure tion from the College of Fine Arts, Chitrakala on salary of coaches, board and lodging, tu­ Parishath, Bangalore, during 1988-89 for ition fee and sports kit of the children recognition under Section 2(f) of the UCC admitted in the adopted schools. State- Act. This College has not yet been wise financial assistance given to the State recognised. Governments during the year 1987 for holding the talent contests and for cre­ ation/improvement of infrastructure is given Number of Selected Children under Nurturing of Sports Talent Scheme in Statements I & II below. Expenditure on salary of coaches, and board and lodging of the admitted children is not being main­ 2934. DR. PHULRENU CUHA: Will the tained state-wise.

STATEMENT.!

Statewise Financial Assistance Provided for Conduct of N.S.T.C. 1987

SI. States/U.Ts. Amount Released No. (Rs.)

1 ~ 2 ’ 1

1. Andhra Pradesh 1.08.500.00

2. Assam 86 ,000.00

3. Bihar 2.77.400.00 267 Written Answers DECEMBER 11,1988 Written Answers 268

4. Cujarat 1/17,500.00

5. Karnataka 2,95,000.00

6. Kerala 78.500.00

7. Madhya Pradesh 2,07,500.00

8. Maharashtra 1,40,000.00

9. Haryana 59,000.00

10. Jammu & Kashmir 68,000.00

11. Manipur 45,000.00

12. Tripura 18,500.00

13. Meghalaya 27,500.00

14. Punjab 59,000.00

15. Rajasthan 48.600.00

16. Sikkim 24,948.00

17. Tamil Nadu 89,500.00

18. Orissa 68,000.00

19. Uttar Pradesh 2,57,000.00

20. Mizoram 23,000.00

21. Coa 23,000.00

22. Andaman & Nicobar 14,000.00

23. Nagaland 40,000.00

24. West Bengal 81,500.00

25. Arunachal Pradesh 54,500.00

26. Chandigarh 9,500.00

27. Daman & Diu 14,000.00

TOTAL Rs. 23,44,948.00 269 Written A nsw m AGRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910C&4JG4) Written Answ m 270

STATEMENT*!!

Assistance to Adopted Schools for Improvement/Creation of Sports Facilities & Annual Maintenance Grant, 1967-68

States/U.Ts. S.No. Name of Schools Grant Released

1 2 3 4 DELHI 1. Air Force Bal Bharati School. 5,00,000

2. Mother International School. 2,50,000

HARYANA 3. CRZ School, Sonepat. 4,40,020

4. Navodaya Vidyalaya, Hisar. 25,000

CUJARAT 5. Charutar Vidyamandal. 3,00,000

ANDHRA 6. Siddhartha Public School. 4,80,000 PRADESH

7. Loyola High School, Vinukonda. 2,50,000

8. Navodaya Vidyalaya, Karimnagar. 25,000

PUNJAB 9. Govt. Girls' School, Mall. 2,50,000

UTTAR 10. APJ School, NOIDA. 2,50,000 PRADESH

11. Mahadevi Kanya Pathshala, Dehradun. 2,40,000

12. Navoaya Vidyalaya, Meerut. 25,000

MAHARASHTRA 13. Sanjeevan Vidyalaya, Panchgani. 5,00,000

14. Muktangan English School, Pune. 2,50,000

15. Navodaya Vidyalaya, Amravati. 25,000

CHANDIGARH 16. Shivalik Public School. 50,000

KARNATAKA 17. St. joseph's Indian High School. 50,000

18. Navodaya Vidyalaya, Kolar. 25,000

SIKKIM 19. Navodaya Vidyalaya, West Distt. 25,000

HIMACHAL 20. Navodaya Vidyalaya, Sirmour. 25,000 PRADESH 271 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 2 /z

RAJASTHAN 21. Navodaya Vidyalaya, Jaipur. 25.000

MADHYA 22. Navodaya Vidyalaya, Jabalpur. 25.000 PRADESH

ORISSA 23. Navodaya Vidyalaya, Phulbani. 25.000

TOTAL Rs. 40,60,020

Funds to States under Dairy Development and Uttar Pradesh?

2935. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SINCH: Will the Minister of ACRICULTURE DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND be pleased to state: COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) whether considerable funds including (a) and (b). Operation Flood has been loans have been invested in Dairy Develop­ assisted at various stages by International ment since 1970 under Operation Flood, Agencies through Commodity Aid World Bank and EEC, WEP, CLUSA project; (WFP/EEC/CLUSA) and Financial Aid (IDA/World Bank). A statement indicating (b) if so, the details thereof and the the funds disbursed by NDDB to various actual disbursements, State-wise since States between the years 1985-86 to 1988- 1985; 89 (upto October, 1988) is given below.

(c) whether these disbursements are in (c) No, Sir. The disbursements are relation to human p

STATEMENT

Disbursement o f Funds by National Dairy Development Board to Various States during 1985-86, 1986-87, 1987-88 and 1988-89 (upto October, 1988)

(Rs. in lakh) (Provisional)

State/UTs 1985-86 1986-87 1987-88 1988-89 (upto Oct. 1988) 1 2 3 4 5

Andaman & Nicobar 0.25 2.33 0.01 -

Andhra Pradesh 603.77 808.64 818.98 94.45 273 Written Ansttmt ACRAHAYANA 10,191

1 2 3 4 5

Assam 109.99 64.28 34.08 75.80

Bihar 119.12 253.97 227.86 9.50

Delhi 116.67 27.74 30.47 -

Goa 5.59 8.13 9.59 5.84

Gujarat 1039.42 1352.00 661.73 98.75

Haryana 263.47 271.50 274.77 -

Himachal Pradesh 25.13 25.53 10.26 -

Karnataka 460.47 788.22 625.20 50.79

Jammu & Kashmir 12.34 2.68 37.60 -

Kerala 501.27 389.76 160.78 132.62

Madhya Pradesh 961.29 404.63 94.65 20.00

Maharashtra 584.08 561.15 510.89 86.59

Manipur 0.16 - - -

Nagaland 0.16 5.08 1.44 1.11

Mizoram 1.16 1.12 0.90 -

Orissa 230.79 56.87 6.95 29.73

Pondicherry 34.69 28.39 9.49 m

Punjab 731.34 305.31 617.55 150.00

Rajasthan 514.45 518.49 95.82 -

Sikkim 15.53 (-) 5.10 (-) 2.90 -

Tamil Nadu 707.70 728.56 474.03 9.44

Tripura 6.96 0.25 0.03 *

Uttar Pradesh 485.95 803.58 855.95 108.00

West Bengal 154.83 237.33 37.14 1.05 275 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 276

D iscip lin a ry Proceedings against (d) whether the institute has also Employees of Kendriya Vidyaiaya received more than one Government's Sangathan grants for the construction of the same library building which is still incomplete; and 2936. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH: (e) if so, what steps have been taken to SHRIMATI CEETA MUKHERJEE; ensure that Government grants are utilised for the purpose for which these have been SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: sanctioned?

Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN (a) the details of disciplinary proceedings RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L P. pending against different categories of em­ SHAHI): (a) Yes, Sir. The University grants ployees of Kendriya Vidyaiaya Sangathan for Commission has approved in June, 1988, in more than one and three years; and principle, the construction of Swimming Pool at Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra, (b) the reasons for delay in finalisation of Ranchi at the cost of Rs. 10.00 lakhs with these cases? the commission's share limited to Rs. 7.5 lakhs. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND (b) No, Sir. The Institute has requested CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN the Government of Bihar to accord sanction RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. for balance amount of Rs. 2.5 lakhs. SHAHI): (a) and (b). Information is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the (c) According to the information re­ Sabha. ceived from the Institute, it has not received any Government grant for development of Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra, Laser Laboratory which is quite functional. Ranchi (d) and (e) No, Sir. The University 2937. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD Grants Commission allocated Rs. 5.00 lakhs SINGH: Will the Minister of HUMAN RE­ for completion of the library building in the SOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to Mesra campus and out of this the first in­ state: stalment of Rs. 1.25 lakhs has been released by the Commission to the Institute in July, (a) whether Birla Institute of Technology, 1988. This Ministry has released separately Mesra, Ranchi has been sanctioned grant by a grant of Rs. 1.92 lakhs for construction of University Grants Commission for construc­ library for conducting MBA programme at tion of "Swimming Pool" and if so, the the Institute's City Centre at Lalpur, Ranchi. amount thereof; The construction of the library building of the Institute in Mesra Campus is nearing (b) whether Bihar Government has also completion. extended grant to the institute for the same purpose and if so, the amount thereof; Assistance for Repair/Construction of Roads in Punjab (c) whether the institute has received more than one Government grant for the 2938. SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHRY: Will same Laser Lab which is presently not func­ the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be tioning at all; pleased to state: 277 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 1 0 ,191

(a) whether the Government of Punjab (d) the details thereof? had sought financial assistance from Union Government for repair of existing roads and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE construction of new roads in Punjab; and DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN (b) if so, the details thereof and the reac­ RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L P. tion of the Union Government thereto? SHAH I): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. During the last three years the following monuments in THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Orissa have been declared protected by the MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI Central Government. RAJESH PILOT): (a) and (b). The Govt, of Punjab have projected the following requirements for restoration of damages to roads and bridges, etc.: 1) Papanasini tank behind Lingraj temple, Bhubaneswar.

State roads Rs. 34.00 crores 2) Bhubaneswar Mahadev temple, Bhavanipur, District Cuttack. Major bridges/ culverts Rs. 15.00 crores (c) and (d) The protected area of Bhubaneswar Mahadev temple has been Rural roads Rs. 36.00 crores demarcated and fenced and a gate also pro* vided besides restoring the collapsed Based on the Report of the Central Study boundary wall, strengthening of foundation Team which visited Punjab from 26th to of the temple, grouting of fissures and 31st Oct. 1988 Central Govt, have joints, replacing the broken members and sanctioned an amount of Rs. 31.00 crores. providing steps to the entrance of the sanctum of the temple. In addition, a requirement of Rs. 5 crores, was projected for repairs to National Provision has been made in the Highways against which an amount of Rs. conservation programme for 1988-89 for 35 lakhs has been released on an adhoc the maintenance and repairs to the basis. This is besides the amount of Rs. Papanasini tank and work will be taken up 287.88 lakhs released earlier for in a phased manner. maintenance. Review of Fish Farmers Development Agency Programme Centrally Protected Monuments in Orissa

2939. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANICRAHI: Will 2940. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANICRAHI: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: state:

(a) whether Government have declared (aj whether Government have reviewed some more ancient monuments in Orissa as the implementation of Ffsh Farmers Devel­ centrally protected monuments; opment Agency Programme;

(b) if so, which are these monuments (b) if so, the progress made so far under and their location; the centrally sponsored programme during the Seventh Plan Period in Orissa; (c) the various measures taken for the proper preservation of these monuments; (c) whether Government propose to lay and emphasis on scientific fish culture; and 279 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 280

(d) if so, the guidelines sent to different THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE State Governments in this regard? MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (a) and (b). Port charges THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE have been revised during 1988 at the poit$ DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND of Calcutta, Visakhapatnam, Madras, COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF Tuticorin, Kandla and Mormugao. The revi­ ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): sion was necessitated in view of the alround (a) Yes, Sir. increase in the cost of various inputs and * consequent increase in the operating (b) Under this programme a water area expenditure. of 12,200 ha. has been covered under scien­ tific fish culture, so far during Seventh Plan Reservoir Fisheries Development Project period in Orissa. Besides, about 8000 fish farmers have also been imparted training in 2942. SHRI SRIKANTHA DATTA modem techniques of fish farming during NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR: Will the this period. The average productivity from Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to the water area covered under this pro­ state: gramme has also been increased from 500 l^gs/Ha. to 1541 Kg/ha. (a) whether National Co-operative Development Corporation is funding State (c) and (d). The Covemment have al­ Government for implementing the Reservoir ready taken necessary steps to encourage Fisheries Development projects; scientific fish culture by sanctioning 200 Fish Farmers Development Agencies (FFDAs) so (b) if so, the details of projects in far throughout the country under the Cen­ Karnataka funded by National Co-operative trally Sponsored Scheme of Development of Development Corporation; Aquaculture. (c) whether such project has been taken The State Governments have been re­ up in Mysore; and quested to lease out suitable water areas to identified progressive fish farmers on 7-10 (d) if so, the cost of that project and the year lease to enable them to take up fish amount of Central assistance and World farming. Necessary guidelines have also Bank assistance provided for the project so been issued to all States Governments for (i) far? provision of necessary financial, technical and extension support to fish farmers; (ii) imparting training to identified beneficiaries THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE on fish farming (iii) supplying the requisite DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND input such as fish seed, fertiliser, feed etc for COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF enabling them to undertake scientific fish AGRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): farming in fcnks and ponds. (a) Yes, Sir.

Hike in Port Charges (b) to (d). The national Co-operative 2941. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI: Will Development Corporation (NCDC) have the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be sanctioned a reservoir fisheries pleased to state: development project to be implemented in Mysore district of Karnataka at a total cost (a) whether port changes have been of Rs. 473.88 lakh. The NCDC would raised in certain ports; and provide Rs. 406.58 lakh for implementation of this project with the remaining Rs. 67.30 (b) if so, the names of those ports and lakh from the State Government. No Worid the reasons therefor? Bank assistance is available for this project. 281 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA1 0 ,1910(£4/C4) Written Answers 282

The project components, project be incurred on other plants? benefits etc. are as under: - THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES i) The reservoir area to be covered (SHRI M. L. FOTEDAR): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. for development will be 14,580 ha. A oxygen unit with a capacity of 12000 NM /hr. has been supplies, erected and ii) Two fish seed hatcheries each of commissioned in November, 1988 at 10 ha. size will be established. Bokaro Steel Plant by M /s Bharat Heavy Plates and Vessels Ltd. (BHPVL) on turn-key iii) 409 cages will be installed for rear­ basis. ing fish seed. (c) and (d). The integrated steel plants iv) Establishment of one ice-plant- with locations, having oxygen units are as cum-cold storage; 20 kiosks and follows:- provision of four transport vehicles for preservation, distribution and i) Bhilai Steel Plant, Bhilai, Madhya marketing of fish. Pradesh.

v) Provision of training, extension ii) Bokaro Steel Plant, Bokaro, Bihar. support and supply of inputs to the beneficiary fishermen families. iii) Tata Iron & Steel Company, Jamshedpur, Bihar. vi) Construction of 16 fish handling sheds. iv) Durgapur Steel Plant, Durgapur, West Bengal. Benefits: v) Rourkela Steel Plant, Rourkela, i) The total anticipated fish produc­ Orissa. tion at the end of the project pe­ riod will be about 3,500 tonnes. Indian Iron and Steel Company (IISCO), ii) The number of fishermen families Bumpur, West Bengal, does not have to be benefited will be 2,570. oxygen unit as there was no technological requirement for such a unit there. Oxygen Units in the Steel Plants As in the integrated steel plants of SAIL 2943. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will the the equipment for the oxygen units were Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased procured alongwith other equipments of the plants, cost of the individual oxygen to state: units are not separately available. (a) whether a new Oxygen unit has been set up at the Bokaro Steel Plant recently; The latest oxygen plant of TISCO cost them Rs. 32 crores. (b) if so, the details thereof; New oxygen units under the modernisa­ (c) the details of steel plants, State-wise tion programmes are proposed to be pro­ where there are Oxygen units and details of vided at the following plants:- the plants which are yet to be provided with such units together with the reasons for de­ i) IISCO, Burnpur. lay; and ii) Durgapur Steel Plant. (d) the estimated expenditure incurred thereon and the estimated expenditure to iii) Rourkela Steel Plant. 283 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 284

Exact costs of these units would be avail­ (b) whether Government of Maharashtra able only when orders are placed. and other Coastal States have urged Union Government to extend this facility to smaller Mica Industry mechanised fishing crafts also; and

2944. SHRI SH ANTI LAL PATEL: (c) if so, the reaction of Union Govern­ SHRI S. B. SIDNAL: ment to demand and steps taken in this re­ gard? Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND (a) whether plans are being considered COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF to review mica industry; ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) Fishing vessels of 13.7 Metre length and (b) whether a National Conference on above and fitted with engines of not less demand and research on utilisation of mica than 150 BHP are only eligible for excise was called in the month of August by the duty rebate on High Speed Diesel Oil. Indian Bureau of Mines; (b) Yes, Sir. (c) if so, the main proposals that were considered; and (c) The proposal to extend excise duty rebate on diesel oil to all mechanised fishing (d) the time likely to be taken for its im­ vessels has been examined and it was not plementation? found feasible on the grounds of administra­ tive constraints and possible revenue leak- THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES age. (SHRI M. L. FOTEDAR): (a) to (d). A Working Croup has been constituted in April, 1988 Damage Caused to Orange Crops in to assess the present and future domestiG Maharashtra demand of mica in the country, to survey the research work done by various 2946. SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: institutions for development of mica indus­ Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be try, to indicate any gaps in research and de­ pleased to state: velopment work and provide possible uses of mica in the country. AS a part of the (a) whether Government are aware that deliberations of the Working Croup, the the orange crops has been badly damaged Indian Bureau of Mines (IBM) had convened during the current season in the Vidarbha a National Conference on Mica in August, region and Nagpur district of Maharashtra; 1988 for making a realistic assessment of the present and future demand of mica. The (b) if so, whether Union Government has Working Croup is required to submit its sent a Central Team to Vidarbha and Nag­ report by April, 1989. pur to assess the damage caused to such crops; and Duty Free-High Speed Diesel Oil to Smaller Mechanised Fishing Crafts (c) if so, the details thereof and the assis­ tance given by Union Covemment to Maha­ 2945. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATEL: Will the rashtra Covemment to meet the situation? Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND (a) whether smaller mechanised fishing COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF crafts are not entitled to duty free high AGRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): speed diesel oil; (a) No report from the Covemment of 285 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA10,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 286

Maharashtra indicating serious damage to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE orange crop in Vidarbha region and Nagpur DEPARTMENT OF FERTILIZERS IN THE district has been received recently by the MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI R. Government of India. PRABHU): (a) M/s. Fertilizers and Chemicals Travancore Ltd. (FACT) are (b) and (c). Do not arise. implementing a fertilizer education project with assistance from European Economic Revised Proposal for Diverting National Community. Out of a total amount of Rs. Highway Passing through Nagpur city 200 lakhs for implementing this project in four States a sum of Rs. 83 lakhs has been 2947. SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: spent/committed in Kerala, during 1985-86, Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT 1986-87, 1987-88 and 1988-89. be pleased to state: (b) The three districts in Kerala are (a) whether Government of Maharashtra Trivandaim, Cannanore and Ernakulam. has sent a revised proposal to Union Gov­ ernment in regard to the alignment and (c) The districts have been selected other technical details for diverting the Na­ keeping in view the objectives of the pro­ tional Highway Passing through the Nagpur gramme viz. need to increase fertiliser con­ City; sumption in rainfed areas, boost consump­ tion of fertilizer in areas of low consumption (b) if so, whether any decision has been but with adequate potential etc. taken thereon; and Setting up of Steel Plant at Wardha (c) if so, the details thereof? 2950. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RA- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MACHANDARAN: Will the Minister of STEEL MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT(SHRI AND MINES be pleased to state: RAJESH PILOT): (a) to (c). The Proposal to realign the National Highway passing (a) whether there is any proposal to set through Nagpur City has been accepted in up a Steel Plant at Wardha, Maharashtra; principle by the Government of India. (b) if so, the details thereof; and However, an incomplete proposal received in August, 1988 has since been returned to (c) the decision taken by Government the State Government. thereon? Indo-EEC Education Programme THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI M. L. FOTEDAR): (a) and (b). Letters 2949. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RA- of intent have been issued for setting up MACHANDRAN: Will the Minister of two steel projects in Wardha district of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: Maharashtra. One letter of intent issued to M/s Inland Steel Ltd. is for rolling of 1,00,000 tonnes per annum of cold rolled (a) the allocation made to State of Kerala carbon steel sheets. The other letter of for implementing the intensive Indo-Euro­ intent has been issued to M/s Integrated pean Economic Community Education Pro­ Steels Ltd. for a composite unit for steel gramme for farmers; making and manufacture of 1,20,000 tonnes per annum of cold rolled carbon steel strips. (b) the Districts in Kerala covered under this programme; and (c) The letters of intent will be converted into Industrial Licences after the units have (c) the criteria adopted for selecting dis­ complied with all the stipulations laid down tricts in Kerala under the programme? by Government. 28 7 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 288

International Conference on Kampuchea establishment of an International Control Commission are continuing. 2951. DR. B. L. SHAILESH: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased Central Assistance to Karnataka Fisheries to state: Co-operative Societies

(a) whether talks were held recently with 2952. SHRI SRIKANTHA DATTA Prince Sihanouk of Kampuchea in Paris and NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR: Will the also with Soviet Foreign Minister about the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to Kampuchean problem; and state: (a) whether Union Government are pro­ (b) if so, whether any agreement has viding assistance to the State Governments been reached for the holding of to help the Fisheries Co-operative Societies; International Conference on Kampuchea for and establishment of International Control Commission? (b) if so, the details of those Societies in Karnataka, and the Central assistance re­ THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS ceived by them during the last three years? (SHRI P. V. NARASIMHA RAO): (a) Minister of State, Shrr K.Natwar Singh met Prince THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Sihanouk in Paris on November 2nd, 1988. DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND He also met Mr. Ragachev, Deputy Foreign COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF Minister of the USSR, on 4th Nov. 1988. ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM IAL YADAV): The subject of Kampuchea came up during (a) Yes, Sir. discussions. (b) National Cooperative Development (b) Discussions on the possibility of a Corporation has sanctioned/released finan­ settlement of the Kampuchean issue, cial assistance to the following Fisheries Co­ including the question of convening an operative Societies in Karnataka during the International Conference and the last 3 years:- ytupees in laxns; 289 Written Answers

Society Assistance sanctioned Assistance feleased Remarks Loan Subsidy Loan Subsidy

1. Gangoli FCS, Coondapur Financial ,1910(SA/C4) 0 AGRAHAYANA1

Taluk, South Kanara Distt. 1.00 - 1.00 - assistance

2. Kirimanjeswara FCS, South 0.10 - 0.10 - has been pro­ Kanara District vided to the

3. Malpe FCS, Udupi Taluk, 0.50 - 0.50 - Societies as South Kanara District. share capital

4. Belkeri FCS, North 0.50 - - - Kanara District.

5. Belkonda FCS, Honavar Taluk, North Kanara Distt. 0.50 - - -

6. Integrated Reservoir Fish­ eries Development Project through a State level Fede­ ration and Primary Societies 360.78 45.80 - - Written Answers 290 291 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 292

Probe Into the Matter of Sale of Scrap Nippon Denro Ispat Group Iron 2954. DR. B. L. SHAILESH: Will the 2953. DR. B. L SHAILESH: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: to state: (a) whether the Nippon Denro Ispat (a) whether irregularities have been re­ Group has acquired a Rs.700 crores plant, ported in the sale of scrap iron to private "Iron and Steel Company of Trinidad and contractors by the Bokaro Steel Limited and Tobago (ISCOTT)", from Government of Durgapur Steel Plant; Trinidad and Tobago on lease with an option to fully purchase the plant after five (b) if so, the details thereof and whether years; any probe has been ordered in this regard; (b) if so, whether Government have (c) the outcome of the probe; and cleared the proposal for the Indian portion of the joint venture; and (d) the action taken or being taken to fix responsibility in the matter? (c) the details of its terms and conditions, the equity, plant and machinery, THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES equipment, man-power, technical know­ (SHRI M. L. FOTEDAR): (a) to (d). Durgapur how etc. to be taken out of the country, the Steel Plant percentage of profits to be repatriated and ti .e type of finished products to be imported While the report based on the police into India from this plant? case registered against the contractor for termination of the contract for sale of scrap THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES iron was under consideration of the (SHRI M. L. FOTEDAR): (a) to (c). Durgapur Steel Plant management; the Government have no information on this contractor obtained an interim order from subject. No application has been received the# High Court at Calcutta restraining all by Government in this connection. concerned authorities from interfering in any manner with the day to day Pay of Coaches performance of the contract till disposal of the petition of the contractor. At the expiry 2955. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH of the validity period of the contract, rit was MALIK: Will the Minister of HUMAN RE­ terminated by the management. The SOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to contractor challenged the order of termina­ state: tion in the High Court at Calcutta and ob­ tained injunction for maintaining status-quo (a) whether Union Government have is­ upto 11.12.1988. sued any fresh guidelines to various sports federations to fix the pay of junior and Bokaro Steel Plant senior coaches in the revised scales of pay as approved by Government; Qn receipt of petitions/complaints in the award of contract for 1987-88 to a private (b) if so, the details of revised and pre­ contractor relating to recovery/removal and revised scales of pay of the coaches; purchase of iron scrap, steel skull and used/rejected refractory material from the (c) whether senior coaches have also Blast Furnace Slag Dump of Bokaro Steel represented in May, 1988 for tedressal of Plant, a high level Committee has been ap­ their grievances; and pointed to look into these aspects whose report is awaited (d) if so, the main features of their de­ 293 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA1 0 ,1910(SA/C4) Written Answers 294 mands and the steps taken by sports federa­ COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF tions and Union Government in the matter? AGRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) and (b). The hatchery after completion of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE its construction phase is reported to have DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS AND gone on operation from July, 1985. SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD However as reported by the State DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF Government due to non-availability of good HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT spawners of Tiger prawn near by and (SHRIMATI MARCARET ALVA): (a) to (d). shortage of fresh water at the site, the Government has not issued any guidelines hatchery could not achieve the rated to National Sports Federations with respect capacity of seed production. to pay scale of coaches. However, the Sports Authority of India (SAI) has informed The hatchery has been visited by an ex­ that they have received a representation in pert from Aquatic Farms, Hawai, U.S.A. September, 1988 from some coaches for redressal of anomaly in the fixation of their (c) and (d). The recommendations of the scale of pay on the basis of the expert was forwarded to the Government of recommendations of the Fourth Central Pay Maharashtra requesting them to forward a Commission. These coaches were recruited detailed proposal on modification of the in the pay scale of Rs. 700-1100 (pre­ hatchery. The report is yet to be received revised) under the SAI scheme of National from Government of Maharashtra. Sports Talent Contest (NSTC). They have requested for application of pay scale of Rs. 2200-4000 given to the coaches recruited by the erstwhile Society for the National Insti­ Opposition to Modernisation of IISCO tutes of Physical Education and Sports (SNIPES). The request of the NSTC coaches 2957. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MAN DAL is under consideration of SAI. Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state:

(a) whether there is any opposition to Bada Pokharan Hatchery in Maharashtra the modernisation programme of Indian Iron and Steel Company Ltd., by the Trade 2956. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to Unions; state: (b) if so, the details thereof; and (a) whether Bada Pokhran Hatchery in (c) how- this trouble with the Trade Maharashtra is in deep crisis; Union is likely to be resolved to ensure the successful implementation of the (b) whether a United Nations Develop­ modernisation programme of IISCO? ment Programme expert has suggested some modifications to re-vitalise the project; THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES (c) if so, the followup action taken by (SHRI M. L FOTEDAR): (a) Government is Government on recommendations made by not aware of any opposition to the the expert; and Modernisation Programme of IISCO by the Trade Unions functioning at the plant. In (c) the financial assistance sought and fact, the Trade Unions have been given for this project? demanding modernisation of IISCO for a long time. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND (b) and (c). Do not arise. 295 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 2 %

Performance Appraisal Scheme at IISCO (ii) Report is to be based on direct knowledge of appraisee's perfor­ mance for the entire period and 2958. SHRI PURNA CHANDRA MALIK: not on recent achievements alone. Will the Minister of $TEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: (iii) Reporting Officer shall be the first line executive under whose (a) whether the performance appraisal supervision/knowledge the scheme is in vogue at Indian Iron and Steel employees worked during the Company, Burnpur Work; year. (b) if so, the date of introduction of the (iv) The higher officer shall be the line scheme; executive superior to the reporting Officer. The higher officer shall (c) the details of the scheme including give his recommendations and re­ sections of the workers and employees who marks on the assessment of the re­ are covered under the scheme; porting officer. (d) whether the scheme was discussed (d) Yes, Sir. All the five forum unions with the representatives of the workers be­ namely, Asansol Iron Steel Workers Union fore its introduction and if so, at what level; (INTUC), Asansol Burnpur, Kulti, Metal and Engg. Workers Union (CITU), United Iron (e) was it discussed at the corporate and Steel Workers Union (AITUC), Iron level Joint Consultative Committee of Steel Steel and Engineering Workers Union Authority of India Limited, if so, the details (HMS), Burnpur Ispat Karam Chari Sangh thereof; and (BMS), were consulted and scheme was dis­ cussed with five operating Unions at (f) whether the scheme is proposed to Burnpur in the Joint Consultative Forum. be reviewed?

(e) No Sir. Such matters are finalised at THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES Plant level. (SHRI M. L. FOTEDAR): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. A performance appraisal Scheme for non­ (f) No, Sir. Since the scheme has been in­ executives has been introduced in IISCO troduced recently. with effect from 1.1:1988. This Scheme is in operation in respect of Executives. Setting up of Industries Based on Iron (c) All non-executive employees of Ore in Goa IISCO, Burnpur are covered under the Scheme. 2959. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased The objective of the scheme is to to state: evaluate the performance of the employees, to ensure their comparative assessment, to (a) whether Government propose to en­ identify their strengths and to evaluate their courage the local utilisation of iron ore, potential for growth. presently exported to countries like Japan, KQrea, Rumania etc.; The following procedure is being followed in respect of Performance (b) whether Covemment have received Appraisal of Non-Executives:- any proposals for the establishment of any industrial units for the purpose in Goa; and (i) The appraisal shall be for a period of one Calender year. (c) if so, the details thereof? 297 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA10,191 0(SAKA) Written Answers 298

t h e m in is t e r o f s t e e l a n d m in e s Indian Universities (AIU) for the years 1986- (SHRI M. L FOTEDAR): (a) There is 87 and 1987-88. Rabindra Bharati University sufficient iron ore available in the country to is the East Zone Champion for the year meet all domestic requirements as well as 1988-89. export commitments. (b) Yes, Sir.

(b) and (c). Three units have registered (c) No, Sir. themselves so far for setting up sponge iron plants in Goa for a total capacity of 4.3 lakh (d) Does not arise. tonnes per year. (e) There was no Youth programme in the Festival of India in Japan. The AIU who Selection of Students for Youth Festival were requested by the Department of Youth Abroad Affairs & Sports to furnish the names of four students with their bio-data by 25th June, 2960. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Will 1988, had in turn requested ten universities the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE including Patna University to send some DEVELOPMENT oe pleased to state: names for their consideration and onward transmission to the Department of Youth (a) whether Patna University is the Affairs & Sports. A telegram was received by holder of East Zone Inter-University the AIU from Patna University on 24th June, Championship of Cultural Competitions 1988 indicating four names without bio­ organised by the Association of Indian data. As such the AIU could not consider Universities (AIU) for the last two years and aid sponsor any candidate from Patna is currently All India champion as well; University within the prescribed time for Seoul Olympic Youth camp. (b) if so, whether university students are selected for participation in Youth Festivals Working Women Hostels organised in foreign countries; 2961. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI: Will the Minister of Human Resource (c) if so, whether any student from Patna Development be pleased to state: University was selected for participation ei­ ther in Festival of India in Japan or the cul­ (a) the number of working women tural squad for visiting Seoul during hostels set up in different States and Union Olympics; territories; and (b) the locations thereof? (d) if so, the details thereof; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (e) if not, the reasons therefor? DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS AND SPORTS AND WOMEN AND -CHILD THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS AND HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD (SHRIMATI MARCARET ALVA): (a) and (b). A DEVELOPMENT iN THE MINISTRY OF statement indicating the details about the HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT number of Working Women's Hostels in (SHRIMATI MARCARET ALVA): (a) Patna various States/Union Territories sanctioned University is the holder of East Zone Inter- till date under the Scheme of Assistance for University Championship of Cultural construction of Working Women's Hostels Competitions organised by Association of with Day-care centres is given below. 299 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 300

STATEMENT

State/Union Territory and locationwise number of Working Women's Hostels and Day-care Centres as on 30-11-88.

S.No. State/Union No of No. of No.of No., of Territory/ Hostels Work­ Hostels Children City ing with Day­ women care Centres 1 2 3 4 5 6

Andhra Pradesh

1. Cudivada 1 44 1 30 2. Guntur 2 71 1 30 3. Hyderabad 5 287 - - 4. Kakinada 1 56 - - 5. Kurnool 1 57 - - 6. Vijayawada 2 128 - - 7. Vishakhapatnam 1 25 - -

8. Warangal 1 50 - -

14 718 2 60

Arunachal Pradesh

1. Itanagar 1 25 -. 2. Roing 1 50 1 20

2 75 1 20

Assam

1. Dibrugarh 1 50 m 2. Gauhati 4 350 - m 3. Pathashala 1 25 m 4. Lakhimpur 1 28 1 20

7 453 1 20

Bihar

1. Tilothu, Rohtas 1 40 2. Patna 1 21 • - 3. Madhubani 1 30 1 30 4. Ranchi 1 76 - -

4 167 1 30 301 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA10,1910(£AM) Written Answers 302

1 2 3 4 • 5 6

Gujarat

1. Ahmedabad 5 293 1 20 2. Baroda 3 155 2 50 3. Bhavnagar 2 61 - - 4. Jamnagar 1 50 - - 5. Kutch 1 78 1 30 6. Rajkot 3 144 - - 7. Surat 2 51 - - 8. Wadhavan 2 73 - -

19 905 4 100

Haryana

1. Ambala 2 70 2. Bhiwani 1 108 1 30 3. Faridabad 1 80 - -

4. Curgaon 1 80 - -

5. Hissar 1 60 - -

6. Jind 1 84 - - 7. Kama I 1 109 1 30 8. Kurukshetra 1 84 1 30 9. Mandi Dhabwali 1 50 - - 10. Rohtak 1 109 1 30

11. Rewari 1 60 1 . 30 12. Sirsa 1 60 1* 30 13. Sonepat 1 43 --

14 997 6 180

Himachal Pradesh

1. Bilaspur 1 52 2. Chamba 1 35 * - 3. Dharamshala 1 35 - - 4. Hamirpur 1 35 - - 5. Kullu 1 35 - - 6. Mandi 1 35 - - 7. Nahan 1 35 - - 8. Parwanoo 1 35 - - 9. Simla 2 75 - -

10. Solan 1 35 - -

11. Theog 1 35 - - 12. Una 1 35 - - 13 477 303 Written Answers DECEMBER 1 ,1988 Written Answers 304

1 2 3 4 S 6

Jammu & Kashmir

1. Srinagar 1 50 - -

1 50 - -

Karnataka

1. Bangalore 12 1002 1 30 2. Belgaum 2 157 - - 3. Bellary 1 21 -- 4. Bidar 1 52 - - 5. Chickaballapur 1 80 1 30 6. Dharwar 1 100 - - 7. Hassan I 128 - - 8. Hubli 1 20 -- 9. Hulkoti 2 100 2 60 10. Kittur 1 92 1 30 11. Mandya 1 42 - - 12. Mangalore 5 189 1 50 13. Manipal 2 102 -- 14. Madikeri 1 42 - - 15. Mysore 2 100 --

34 2227 6 200

Kerala

1. Alleppey 4 413 3 80 2. Alwaye 1 125 1 30 3. Badogara 1 105 -- 4. Calicut 7 505 1 10 5. Cochin 4 561 . 6. Changancherry 1 78 - 7. Chelakudy 1 95 - 8. Ernakulam 5 677 1 30 9. Iddukki 1 126 1 30 10. Irinjalkuda 2 151 1 30 11. Kannaur 1 48 1 15 12. Kasargod 2 126 1 30 13. Kottayam 10 1055 180 14. Kottakunam 1 87 1 30 15. Mallapuram 1 100 1 30 16. Ottapalam 1 50 1 30 17. Pathamthitta 4 304 115 18. Pamr 1 43 1 25 19. Punani 1 100 . 20. Ponakunnam 1 31 1 20 305 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA1 0 ,1910(5>UC4) Written Answers 306

1 2 3 4 5 6

21. Parambavoor 3 178 1 25 22. Palghat 2 129 2 50 23. Palai 1 50 - - 24. Shoranur 1 100 1 30 25. Shertalai 3 203 1 30 26. Thodapuzha 1 68 1 30 27. Tellicherry 2 236 - - 28. Tiruvalla 1 20 - - 29. Trichur 5 362 3 85 30. Trivandrum 12 1178 3 85 31. Vazhoor 1 30 1 20 32. Vaikum 2 115 1 30 33. Vengoor 1 36 1 20 34. Wynad 2 135 2 50 35. Quilon 3 278 1 30

90 7896 43 1170

Madhya Pradesh

1. Bhind 1 42 2. Bhopal 7 381 2 55 3. Berhampur 1 89 1 30 4. Bijawar 1 26 - - 5. Chhindwara 1 30 - - 6. Churhut 1 32 - -

7. Chhatarpur 1 30 - - 8. Damoh 1 59 1 30 9. Devas 1 20 1 25 10. Dhantari 25 - _ 11. Durg Bhillai 1 20 - - 12. Dhar 1 21 - . 13. Gwalior 224 1 30 14. Guna 1 44 - - 15. itarsi 1 69 - . 16. Indore 5 258 1 30 17. Jabalpur 3 118 - - 18. Khandwa 2 82 . • 19. Khujarao 1 50 . * 20. Mandsaur 1 30 - 21. Morena 1 52 _ - 22. Numuchi 1 30 . 23. Nepanagar 1 100 1 30 24. Piplani 1 108 1 50 25. Ratlam 1 46 . _ 26. Raipur 90 - - 26A. Seoni 1 58 _ 27. Shivpur 1 42 - -

28. Sagar 1 21 - - 307 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 308

1 2 3 4 5 6

29. Shajapur 1 48 - - 30. Ujjain 1 100 - - 31. Vidhaha 1 32 - - 32. Sihore 1 120 1 25 33. Harda 1 48 1 -

51 2565 11 305

Maharashtra

1. Akola 1 40 1 20 2. Ahmednagar 2 91 1 20 3. Amravati 3 95 - » 4. Aurangabad 1 16 -- 5. Bombay 13 1202 2 54 6. Chandrapur 1 32 - - 7. Dhule 2 136 2 75 8. Kblhapur 2 104 - - 9. Nanded 1 108 1 30 10. Nagpur 4 220 - - 11. Nashik 3 158 1 20 12. Pune 8 522 2 50 13. Parbhani 1 64 1 30 14. Sangli 2 96 - - 15. Thane 2 100 1 30 16. Wardha 1 40 --

47 3024 13 329

Manipur

1. tmphal 4 175 1 30 2. Kohupum Valley 1 26 1 30 3. Lanisang 1 52 1 30 4. Ukhrool 1 37 1 40

7 290 4 130

Meghalaya

1. Shillong 2 134 1 15

2 134 1 15

Mizoram

1. Mizoram 1 40 - - 1 40 309 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA1 0 ,1910C5A/C4) Written Answers 310

1 2 3 4 5 6

Nagaland

1. Pfutsero 1 126 - - 2. Dimapur 1 56 - -

2 182 « -

Orissa

1. Baripada 1 40 - - 2. Balasore 1 75 1 20 3. Berhampur 1 50 1 10 4. Bolangir 1 48 - - 5. Bhubaneshwar 2 196 - - 6. Burla 1 48 - - 7. Cuttack 4 265 - - 8. Dhankenal 1 72 - - 9. Jeypore 1 55 1 15 10. Kalahandi 1 60 - - 11. Rourkela 1 50 - - 12. Puri 1 80 - -

13. Sambalpur 1 57 - -

17 1096 3 45

Punjab

1. Abohar 1 40 * . 2. Amritsar 1 150 - - 3. Bathinda 2 165 1 30 4. Jullunder 2 246 - - 5. Ludhiana 1 150 - -

6. Patiala 1 150 - -

8 901 1 30

Rajasthan

1. Ajmer 1 20 -- 2. Alwar 1 24 1 10 3. Adwata 1 50 1 20 4. Bansthali 1 60 1 30 5. Bhilwara 1 52 --

6. Barathpur 1 24 - - 7. Bhusawar 122 1 30 8. Banswara 1 40 - - 9. Bikaner 1 51 - - 10. Bewar 1 40 - -

11. Chittogarh 1 40 - - 311 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 312

1 2 3 4 5 6

12. Hanumangarh 2 125 - - 13. Khetri 1 25 - - 14. Kota 1 51 - - 15. Kishangarh 1 40 - * 16. Jaipur 178 2 40 17. Jodhpur 1 30 - - 18. Nimbakhera 1 27 -- 19. Partapgarh 1 41 - - 20. Pali 1 40 - - 21. Sangaria 1 60 1 30 22. Sriganganagar 2 137 1 30 23. Sirohi 1 41 - - 24. Udaipur 2 74 1 30

30 1392 9 220

Sikkim

1. Gangtok 2 145 1 30

2 145 1 30

Uttar Pradesh

1. Aligarh 1 40 2 . Allahabad 2 96 -- 3. Azamgarh 1 47 1 15 4. Bareilly 1 50 - - 5. Dehradun 1 96 - 6 . Firozabad 1 50 1 30 7. Gorakhpur 1 50 - - 8 . Ghaziabad - 162 _ * 9. Jaunpur 1 50 1 30 10. Kanpur 3 168 1 30 11. Jhansi 1 23 . - 12. Lucknow 2 82 13. Madhya 1 53 1 40 14. Meerut 22 284 * 15. Raipur 1 112 1 30

39 1363 6 175

Tamil Nadu

1. Coimbatore 8 491 4 105 2 . Dharmapuri 1 20 1 20 3. Dindigul 1 86 4. Kanchipuram 2 45 * m 5. Madras 16 731 3 80 6. Madurai 5 155 * 313 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0,1910(SAM) Written Answers 314

1 2 3 4 5 6

7. Nagercoil 1 40 1 25 8. Otacumund 1 25 1 20 9. Perambalur 1 51 - - 10. Pudokottai 1 30 1 25 11. Salem 4 130 - - 12. Trichurapalli 7 412 5 130 13. Tirunelveli 2 70 --

14. Thanjavur 1 18 - -

15. Sivakasi 1 50 - - 16. Vellore 2 108 1 25

54 2471 17 430

West Bengal

1. Asansol 1 20 _ . 2. Burdwan 1 69 - -

3. Balurghat 1 56 - - 4. Calcutta 4 197 1 30 5. Hoogly 1 84 - - 6. Malda 1 34 1 10 7. Midnapore 1 25 1 30

8. Rishara 1 21 - -

11 506 3 70

Goa

1. Coa 2 >20 - -

2 120 - -

Total 453 28194 133 3559

UNION TERRITORIES

Andaman & Nicobar Islands

1. Port Blair 1 36

Chandigarh 1. Chandigarh 4 4641 30

Dadra & Nagar Haveli 1. Dadra & Nagar Haveli 315 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 316

1 2 3 4 5 6

Delhi 1. Delhi 14 1593 6 154

Lakshadweep 1. Lakshadweep • - - -

Pondicherry

1. Pondicherry 2 96 - -

Total 21 2189 7 184

GRAND TOTAL 474 30383 140 3743

Export of Iron Ore to japan THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI M. L. FOTEDAR): (a) The total 2962. SHRI MANKURAM SODI: Will the quantity of iron ore exported from the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased Bailadila mines (at Kirandul and Bacheli in to state: Bastar District) of National Mineral Devel­ opment Corporation Ltd. is as under: - (a) the quantity of Iron Ore exported to japan from Kirandul and Bacheli Iron Ore mine of Baster district in the last financial 1987-88 5.7 million tonnes year and upto 31 October, 1988; 1988-89 3.8 million tonnes (b) the amount in Indian currency earned (first 7 months) by both these mines in the said period, separately; (b) The total sales realisation for the (c) whether these two mines are earning above exports are approx. Rs. 124 and Rs. profit from commercial point of view; and 91 crores respectively. Out of this the earnings of the two mines separately at (d) if not, the present position of both rates payable by MMTC to NMDC are as these mines? follows:- (figures in Rs. Crores)

Bailadila-14 Bailadila-5 (Kirandul) (Bacheli)

1987-88 19.44 19.31 1988-89 14.31 12.16 (first 7 months)

(c) and (d). No, Sir. Both these mines are to cover the cost of mining, transportation, operating at a loss because the total realisa- handling and leading onto ships at Vizag tion from the sale of iron ore is not sufficient port. 317 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 10,1910(SAM) Written Answers 318

Nehru Yuva Kendra Sangathan viability of some mini-steel plants in the country during the last few years has been 2963. SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR SINGH: affected due to their technological ob­ Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE solescence; Mini steel plants have also DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: represented regarding shortage of power and high prices of other inputs. It has been (a) whether the employees working in reported that *Mini-Steel Plants are facing Nehru Yuva Kendra are regular employees; some shortage of input materials.

(b) if not, the time by which they will be (d) In order to enable the units to be­ regularised; come technologically efficient and more vi­ able, Government have decided to allow ex­ (c) whether pay scales of these pansion of mini steel plants which employees are at par with the pay scales of undertake modernisation. Government have Central Government employees and if so, also reduced the custom duty on imported the details thereof; and scrap by 5% ad valorem with effect from 4th December, 1986. (d) if not, the reasons therefor? Recommendations made by Advisory THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Board of Energy DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS AND SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD 2965. SHRI R. M. BHOYE: Will the DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT state: (SHRIMATI MARCARET ALVA): (a) The employees recruited by Nehru Yuva Kendra (a) the recommendations made by the Sangathan are generally on 'Contract' basis. Advisory Board on Energy for rural energy requirements in the Seventh Five Year Plan; (b) Does not arise. (b) the manner in which afforestation (c) No, Sir. plans have been coordinated with rural fuel requirements; and (d) Due to contractual nature of employ­ ment. (c) the success achieved in this regard?

Loss in Small and Medium Size Steel Units THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT 2964. SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL: Will the IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) Major to state: recommendations of the Advisory Board on Energy are as under:- (a) whether small and medium size units of Steel producers are incurring losses; i) The natural regeneration of exist­ ing indigenous species is the most (b) if so, whether any relief or assistance successful method of restoring has been demanded by these units; permanent begetal cover to our wastelands and should form the (c) if so, the details thereof; and corner-stone of all rural develop­ ment programmes. (d) the action taken thereon? ii) The entire production from village THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES common lands which would result (SHRI M. L. FOTEDAR): (a) to (c). The from the community's 319 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 320

participation in progress tor operations and rural transport. natural regeneration and the Efforts should be made to improve prevention of soil and run-off the use of such energy by losses should be the property of improving the design of equip­ the village community and it ment like saddles and bullock-carts should be free to dispose it off etc. as well as of animal-drawn im­ according to its best judgement. If plements. there is any saleable surplus the proceeds should also go to the village community to be used for community services and building viii) To generate economic activity up of assets. where energy is available the or­ ganisations concerned with rural iii) Rural development programmes development should take steps to should be directed to incorporate facilitate the setting up of rural in­ fuel and fodder production as an dustries like agro-processing, agro­ integral part of rural development service centres, etc. Even the in­ activities. stallation of 'atta chakkis' fodder chopping machines, etc. would re­ iv) The utilisation of agro-residues duce drudgery to a great extent. should not be done in a manner detrimental to the interests of the ix) Decentralised energy systems rural poor and the needs of live­ should be promoted only in areas stock. Only after adequate quanti­ where conventional sources like ties have been reserved for fodder grid power cannot reach. Their and fuel needs should agro­ management and operations residues be used as industrial raw- should be the responsibility of the material or in gasifiers to produce existing utilities. motive power or electricity.

v) It is necessary to impose restric­ (b) and (c). One of the objectives of af­ tions on the supply of fuelwood to forestation/social forestry programmes is to urban areas as these areas have meet the needs of rural population for fuel, access to alternative fuels like LPG fodder, small timber and other minor forest and Kerosene. produce. The tree planting is being under­ taken under various schemes of National vi) A highly neglected area affecting Wasteland Development Board/Rural De­ rural energy needs is animal velopment Department, State Plan Scheme energy which contributes etc. The overall progress during the 7th Plan substantially to agricultural is as under: -

No. of Seedlings in Lakhs

TARCET ACHIEVEMENT

1985-86 29,095.94 30,200.77 1986-87 34,284.52 35,237.32 1987-88 35,939.20 35,511.36 1988-89 40,026.50 27,008.00 (Upto September, 1988) 321 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA10,1910(5MA) Written Answers 322

A separate rural fuel wood plantation fodder and small timber both in block scheme is also being implemented in 157 plantation and farm forestry. The progress fuel deficient areas of the country since 6th Qf ^ scheme in the 7th Plan is as unden- Plan. It involves raising of fast growing

PLANTATION (In Lakh ha.)

TARGET ACHIEVEMENT

1985-86 1.07 0.94 I 1986-87 0.89 0.84 1987-88 0.90 0.80 1988-89 0.60 0.62

[Translation] amount of Rs. 7.50 lakhs has so far been released as first instalment for the construc­ Financial Assistance for Sports Complex in tion of the project. While applying for Sagar (M.P) central assistance the Govt, of Madhya Pradesh had indicated that the project 2966. SHRI NANDLAL CHOUDHARY: would be completed in about 2 years time. Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE Collector, Sagar had intimated Department DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: of Youth Affairs & Sports on 3.6.1988 that no expenditure had been incurred till then. (a) whether Government have provided However, tenders were being invited after any financial assistance for the construction that nothing has been heard from Govt, of of Sports Complex in Sagar City Madhya Madhya Pradesh or Collector, Sagar in this Pradesh; respect.

(b) if so, the amount sanctioned and al­ [English] ready allotted; Reservation of Women in Legislatures (c) the progress of construction work; Under National Perspective Plan and 2967. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Will (d) the time by which construction of the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE sports complex will be completed? DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state:

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether the National Perspective DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS AND Plan for women has called for reservation in SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD favour of women in legislatures and local DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF bodies and in public employment; HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA): (a) to (d). (b) the existing level of such reservation Govt, of Madhya Pradesh approached the in the country at various levels; and Central Govt, for financial assistance for construction of a Sports Complex at Sagar at (c) whether Government propose to an estimated cost of about FIs. 81.00 lakhs. enact legislation for the purpose? The Central assistance of Rs. 15.00 lakhs has been sanctioned according to the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE approved pattern of financial assistance. An DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS AND 323 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 324

SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD to provide legislative support to the code, DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF the Infant Milk Foods and Feeding Bottles HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT Bill 1986 has been passed by . the Rajya (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA): (a) The Sabha. The Bill, passed by the Rajya Sabha, National Perspective Plan recommends is being amended and is proposed to be reservation of 30 percent seats from introduced in the Lok Sabha and Rajya Panchayat to zila parishad level and local Sabha in the current session. municipal bodies for women. At the Par­ liament and State Assembly levels, it has (c) Weaning foods may contain milk recommended that political parties should solids in addition to cereals, vegetables, ensure that 30 per cent of the candidates proteins and carbohydrates. are women. Achievements of N.S.C. (b) The existing level of reservation for women in Panchayats in the country varies 2969. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: in the different states. Will the Minister of ACRlCULTURE be pleassed to state: (c) No such proposal is under considera­ tion at this stage. (a) whether National Seeds Corporation has b£en successful in achieving the objec­ Supply of Free Samples of Cereal Foods to tives for which it has been set up Hospitals ■(b) whether various kinds of seeds be­ 2968. SHRI P. R. KUMARAMANCALAM: came substandard and were evaluated at re­ Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE alisable value resulting in great loss; and DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: (c) the reasons for seeds becoming sub­ (a) whether Covemment are aware that standard and the measures taken by the infant food companies are supplying National Seeds Corporation to prevent free samples of Cereal foods (also called seeds from being substandard? Weaning foods) i.e. Cerelac Wheat, Cerelac Orange, to hospitals and doctors contrary to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Government policies; DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF (b) if so, whether any action is proposed AGRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): in the matter; and (a) Yes, Sir,

(c) whether these products contain milk (b) On an average only 7.8% of the total in addition to cereals? seeds handled by N.S.C. in the proceeding 6 years have become substandard resulting THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in loss. DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS AND SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD (c) The reasons for seed becoming sub­ DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF standard mainly are:- HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRIMATI MARCARET ALVA): (a) No, Sir. (i) adverse seasonal conditions which result in poor offtake of seeds; (b) Government of India has adopted the Indian National Code for Protection and ii) long storage; Promotion of Breast-Feeding in 1983. Baby food manufacturers in the country are ex­ iii) poor storage conditions etc. In or­ pected to cooperate with Government in der to prevent seeds from becom­ the implementation of the Code. However, ing substandard the Corporation is 325 Written Answers AC RAHAYANA10,191 0{SAKA) Written Answers 326

taking various measures like coor­ (b) if so, the details of such teachers dinating production to the re­ category and subject-wise; quirements, reducing carry-over stocks and improving storage con­ (c) what action has been ditions etc. taken/contemplated against the erring offi­ cers; and Promotion of Teachers of Kendriya Vidyalayas (d) what remedial and preventive steps have been taken to check such cases? 2970. SHRI INDRAjIT CUPTA: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN (a) whether the names of a host of teach­ RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L P. ers of Kendriya Vidyalayas were not spon­ SHAH I): (a) and (b). The following number sored by concerned Principals/Assistant Commissioners for promotion to the head­ of teachers were not initially sponsored for quarters office; promotion:-

Post Subject Number

Post Craduate Teachers to Vice-Principals 07

Trained Craduate Teachers to Chemistry 02 Post Craduate Teachers Economics 02 English 01 History 04 Biology 03 Sanskrit 01

Primary Teachers to Trained 11 Craduate Teachers (Humanities)

Primary Teachers to Trained 01 Craduate Teachers (Science)

Primary Teachers to 02 Headmaster

Total: 34

(c) and (d). In a large and scattered or­ of consideration, with reference to the all ganisation like the Kendriya Vidyalaya San­ India as well as regional seniority lists, so as gathan, it is not unlikely that a few names to eliminate the possibility of omissions. are left out. However, instructions have [Translation] been issued recently to the Assistant Commissioners from whom lists of eligible News Item Captioned "Bina Gaban Kiyan teachers are received by the Kendriya 36 Lakh Kha Cay an" Vidyalaya Sangathan (Headquarters) for 2971. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: Will the consideration for promotion, to check Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DE­ particulars of each teacher within the zone VELOPMENT be pleased to state: 327 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 328

(a) whether the attention of Covemment SHRI MANIKSANYAL has been drawn towards the news item Will the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING published in 'jansatta' dated 18 October, INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: 1988 under the caption "Bina Caban Kiyan 36 Lakh Kha Gayan"; (a) the expertise of Pepsico in the field of fruit and vegetable processing and whether (b) if so, the factual position in this re­ its nature and quality was examined by the gard; CSIR or any other national institution and if so, the outcome thereof; (c) whether Government propose to take action against the delinquent officials after (b) the details of the items which would conducting an enquiry into the matter; be imported by the Pepsico and its value year-wise; (d) if so, the time by which the action will be taken; and (c) whether import of flavours or mixture of ordouriferous substances will be (e) if not, the reasons therefor? permitted and if so, the value thereof and the reasons therefor; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND (d) the percentage of import content and CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN the value added in the soft drink RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. concentrate plant? SHAH I): (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) According to Statute 46 of the MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING IN­ Statutes of the Banaras Hindu University, DUSTRIES (SHRI JACDISH TYTLER): (a) the University may, from time to time, Pepsico, in its plant in Frankfurt, Federal invest such part of the Provictent Fund, as Republic of Germany, manufactures several may be considered expedient, in such varieties of orange and lime juice concen­ Covemment securities as the Executive trates. In the United States of America, Pep­ Council may determine, and may change sico has the largest aseptic packaging plant the nature of the Securities. The University for concentrated fruit juice. The Central has stated that in pursuance of the above Food Technological Research Institute, provisions, they invested Rs.4,46,24,200/- Mysore and Central Scientific & Industrial out of the Provident Fund Deposits of the Research were consulted and their views employees of the University in National were taken into account before approving Savings Certificates(NSCs) during the years the project. 1985-86 to 1987-88 with the approval of the Executive Council. The University has (b) and (d). The details of raw materials denied having received any commission on to be imported and the value addition will investments in the above ^I.S.Cs. The be known only as and when applications Postmaster, Sub-Post Office, Malviyanagar, are preferred for import. BHU, has also certified this. (c) All imports shall strictly conform to (c) to (e). Do not arise. the Government of India's policies and guidelines at the time of import. [English] Import of Seeds Pepsico Project 2973. SHRI PRAKASH CHANDRA: SHRI C. MADHAV REDDY: 2972. SHRI AMARSINH SHRI M. RACHUMA REDDY: RATHAWA: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be SHRI ANANDA PATHAK: pleased to state: 329 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA1 0 ,1910(£AAC4) Written Answers 330

(a) whether Government have recently Modernisation of Rice Mills given a Carte blanche to multinational Cor­ porations to dump their seeds under the 2975. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: Will the new seed import policy without necessary Minister of FOOD PROCESSING IN­ quarantine facilities; DUSTRIES be pleased to state:

(b) if so, the reasons therefor; (a) the salient finding of the periodical reviews through reports received from State (c) the extent to which it is likely to affect Governments on modernisation of rice the food production; mills;

(d) whether Government propose to re­ (b) the amount disbursed during the last verse its decision; and three years under the Huller Subsidy Scheme being implemented in six States for (e) if not, the reasons therefor? modernisation of huller mills state-wise; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) the break-up of huller mills mod­ DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND ernised under this scheme, state-wise? COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) No, Sir. MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING IN­ DUSTRIES (SHRI JAG DISH TYTLER): (a) (b) to (e). Do not arise. During the last 17 years, there has been a gradual increase in the number of mod­ ern/modernised rice mills. An awareness has been created among the millers and PM's Visit to Pakistan consumers about the advantages of modem milling by way of increased out-turn of 2974. SHRI PRAKASH CHANDRA: better quality rice with less brokens. Also, SHRI MANIK REDDY: there has been a better appreciation of the SHRI M. RACHUMA REDDY: use of bran for oil extraction and husk as a source of fuel by the industry. Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (b) The following amounts were dis­ bursed to the six States during the last three (a) whether the visit of the Prime Minis­ years i.e. 1985-86 to 1987-88:- ter to Pakistan during the month of Decem­ ber, 1988 has since been finalised; and (i) Andhra Pradesh Rs. 11.25 lakh (b) if so, the issues likely to be discussed (ii) Maharashtra Rs. 10.00 " during the visit? (iii) Orissa Nil (iv) Tamil Nadu Rs. 4.5 it (v) Uttar Pradesh Rs. 3.9 M THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (vi) West Bengal Rs. .25 II MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI K. NATWAR SINCH): (a) The dates for the • (c) The .number of huller mills mod- Fourth SAARC Summit in Islamabad have emised under the scheme in the six States been fixed from December 29-31, 1988. are as follows: (i) Andhra Pradesh 135 (b) The agenda for the Summit is likely to (ii) Maharashtra 85 deal with matters relating to ongoing and (iii) Orissa 15 prospective regional cooperation. Other (iv) Tamil Nadu 82 matters of mutual interest may also be (v) Uttar Pradesh 57 discussed during informal meetings. (vi) West Bengal 04 331 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 332

Delay in Completion of Expansion of B.S.P (a) the total amount spent by Indian Council for Cultural Relations on organising 2976. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: Will the the cultural programmes during the current Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased year so far; to state: (b) whether there has been any audit ob­ (a) whether there was delay in the com­ jections to such programmes during the last pletion of Four million Tonnes expansion of three years; and Bokaro Steel Plant started in September, 1971; (c) if so, the action taken by the Council on these objections? (b) if so, the details thereof; THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (c) the action taken against the turnkey (SHRI P. V. NARASIMHA RAO): (a) The Contractors (BHPVL) of ACF for the delay; information is being collected and will be and laid on the Table of the House.

(d) the reasons for the frequent change (b) The Local Audit Report for 1985-86 in the scope of expansion of Bokaro Steel had drawn attention to the irregularities in Plant? the printing and sales of tickets and shortfalls in the deposit of sale proceeds THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES amounting to Rs. 5145/- for cultural (SHRI M. L. FOTEDAR): (a) Yes, Sir. programmes organised during 1985-86.

(b) The commissioning schedule of 4 MT (c) The procedures have since been expansion including Cold Rolling Mill of streamlined to prevent any recurrence of Bokaro Steel Plant was December 1982. It is the lapses pointed out by Audit. now expected to be commissioned in May 1989. Withholding of Result of M.Phil Examina­ tion of Delhi University (c) M/s BHPVL whom the assignment of the additional oxygen facilities was awarded 2978. DR. A. K. PATEL: Will the Minister on turn-key basis have been able to of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be complete the scheme with marginal pleased to State: slippages. After completion of all obligations under the contract by M/s BHPVL, action (a) whether the result of M.Phil (Hindi) required to be taken, if any, for delay will be examination held in April 1987 Delhi Uni­ decided by SAIL/BSL. versity (South Campus) has been partly withheld for the last 18 months; (d) During the course of actual operation of the plant it was felt by SAIL that certain (b) if so, the reasons therefor; facilities provided in the DPR would be in­ adequate to achieve the production levels. (c) the compensation proposed to be This led to inclusion of certain , new units given to the affected candidates for the loss like 7th Rotary Kiln, Stripoor Yard, additional of two academic years for no fault of theirs; Coil Yard and additional Oxygen Facilities in and the 4 MT expansion beyond the scope of the original project. (d) the remedial measures being taken to prevent recurrence of such delays? ICCR's Cultural Programmes 2977. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: Will the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND to state: CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN 333 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SA/C4) Written Answers 334

RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L P. exploration or development currently and SHAH I): (a) to (d). According to the likely to come up for exploitation in the next information furnished by Delhi University, few years. the M.Phil (Hindi) examination consists of written papers, a dissertation submitted Incidence of Royalty and Tax on Minerals thereafter and a viva voce. As such there is an in-built time lag between the written , 2980. SHRI E. AYYAPPU REDDY: Will the examination and the declaration of the final Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased result. The results of M.Phil (Hindi) exami­ to stale: nation held in April 1987 were declared in June, 1988. The results of two candidates, (a) the rate of royalty collected by each which were held-up because their State jnder the Mines and Minerals regula­ admission was not approved, have since tion Act in the year 1987 and 1988; been declared and intimated to them. (b) the amount collected by the States as Closing of Mines in Kolar Gold Fields mineral taxes and fees etc., on the basis of the ro/alty; 2979. SHRI V. KRISHNA RAO: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased (c) the royalty and tax imposed by each to state: State on limestone, coal and iron ore; and

(a) the names of the Cold Mines in Kolar (d) whether Government have Gold Fields; considered the desirability of bringing uniformity in the incidence of royalty-cum- (b) the names of such mines which have tax on mineral of the same category already been closed; throughout the country?

(c) whether the remaining Gold Mines THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES are going to be closed in a phased manner; (SHRIM. L. FOTEDAR): (a) Rates of royalty and that may be collected by each State is notified by the Central Government under (d) the details of the steps taken to reha­ section 9 of the Mines and Minerals bilitate those who lost their jobs due to clo­ (Regulation and Development) Act, 1957 for sure of mines? minerals other than minor minerals. The rates of royalty notified on the 5th May, THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES 1987 have been in force since that date. The (SHRI M. L. FOTEDAR): (a) to (cl). The Kolar notified rates are given in Statement I below. Gold Fields consists of three Mines namely (i) Mysore (ii) Nundydroog and (iii) (b) The information is being collected Champion Reef Mine. Progressive from the State Governments and will be laid exhaustion of reserves and mining at great on the Table of the House. depths have rendered the operations at K.G.F. uneconomical and, therefore, the (c) The available information on the tax Govt, has decided to phase out these mines imposed by the States in addition to the over a period of seven years. However, no royalty notified by the Central Government mine has so far been closed and, therefore, on limestone, coal and iron ore is given in the question of any workman losing his job Statement II below. in account of phasing out of any of the mines does not arise. After the phasing out (d) Since the different levies such as min­ of the old mines, the employees to the eral rights tax, cess, land tax etc. imposed extent possible, would be accommodated in by some State Governments have an impact alternative trades in diversification activities on the prices of minerals exports and inputs and in Shallow Gold Mines which are under for mineral based industries, it would be 335 Written Answers DECEMBER 1, 1988 Written Angwm 336

desirable to evolve in consultation with the to make suitable adjustments in the rates of State Governments, a rational regime of all mineral rights tax/cess etc. which have such levies taking into account various been linked with royalty rates so that there factors involved. The Central Government, is no increase in the total quantum of while revising the rates of royalty in May, accrual of mineral rights tax/cess etc. 1987, had requested the State Gover nments consequent upon the revision of royalty.

STATEMENT!

Rates of Royalty

1. Agate Fifty-five rupees per tonne.

2. All precious and semi­ Twenty per cent of the sale precious stones (except price at the pit's mouth. agate and diamond)

3. Apatite and Rock Phosphat e: (a) Ores with more than Forty-five rupees per tonne. 27% P2Os

(b) ores with 20% P2Oc to Twenty-five rupees per tonne. 27% P2Os

(c) ores with less than Ten rupees per tonne. 20% P2Os

4. Asbestos:

(a) Chrysotile Two hundred and eighty-five rupees per tonne.

(b) amphibole Fifteen rupees per tonne.

5. Barytes:

(a) while (including snow Twenty rupees per tonne. white and supersnow white)

(b) off-colour Ten rupees per tonne.

6. Bauxite Ten rupees per tonne.

7. Cadmium Sixteen rupees per unit per cent of cadmium metal per tonne of ore and on pro rata basis.

8. Calcite Fifteen rupees per tonne. 337 Written Answer* AGRAHAYANA 10, 191 0(SAKA) Written Answers 338

9. China clay; also called Kaolin (including ball clay) and white shade:

(a) crude Eight rupees per tonne.

(b) processed (including Thirty-five rupees per tonne. washed). 10. Chromite (both Lumpy non- friable ore and concentrates):

(a) containing 48% C^O^ Sixty rupees per tonne. and above.

(b) containing less than Thirty rupees per tonne. 48% Cr20 3 and more than 40% C^O^

(c) containing 30% to 40% Twenty rupees per tonne. Cr2C>3

(d) containing less than Five rupees per tonne. 30% Cr20 3

11. Coal:

(i) Group I Coals:

(a) Coking Coal Steel Grade I Steel Grade II Washery Grade I Seven rupees per tonne. (b) Hand picked Coal produced in Assam, Arunachal Pradesh, Meghalaya and Nagaland *

(ii) Group II Coals:

(a) Coking Coal Washery' Grade II Cocking Coal Washery Grade III

(b) Semi-coking coal Six rupees and fifty Grade I paise per tonne. Semi-coking coal Grade II

(c) Non-coking coal Grade A 339 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 340

Non-coking coal Crade B

(d) Ungraded R.G.M. Coal produced in Assam, Arunachal Pradesh, Meghalaya and Nagaland.

(iii) Croup III Coals:

(a) Coking Coal Washery Crade IV Five rupees and fifty (b) Non-coking coal paise per tonne. Grade C

(iv) Group IV Coals:

Non-coking Coal Crade D Four rupees and thirty Non-coking Coal Grade E paise per tonne.

(v) Group V Coals:

Non-coking Coal Crade F Two rupees and fifty paise Non-coking Coal Grade G per tonne.

(vi) Group VI Coals:

Coal produced in Andhra Five rupees per tonne. Pradesh (Singareni Collieries Company Limited)

Explanation: For the purpose of this item the specification of each such grade of coal shall be as prescribed under clause 3 ot the Colliery Control Order, 1945.

12. Copper ore Five rupees per unit percent of copper metal contained per tonne of ore and on pro­ rata basis.

13. Corundum One hundred and ten rupees per tonne.

14. Diamond Fifteen per cent of the sale price at the pit's mouth.

15. Diaspore Thirty rupees per tonne.

16. Dolomite Eight rupees per tonne. 341 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 10,1910(SMA) Written Answers 342

17. Felspar Six rupees per tonne.

18. Fire clay [Including plastic, Five rupees per tonne. pipe, lithographic and natural (pozzolanic) clay]

19. Fluorspar: (also called fluorite)

(a) Containing 85% CaF 2 One hundred and ten rupees or more. per tonne.

(b) containing 70% of CaF2 or Seventy-five rupees more but less than per tonne. 85% CaF2

(c) containing more than Fifty rupees per tonne. 30% CaF2 but less than 70% CaF2.

(d) containing 30% CaF2 Twenty rupees per tonne. or less.

20. Carnet.(abrasive) Fifteen rupees per tonne.

21. Cold Two rupees per one gram of contained gold per tonne of ore and on pro-rata basis.

22. Graphite:

(a) with 80% or more fixed Seventy-five rupees per tonne. carbon.

(b) with 40% or more fixed Forty rupees per tonne. carbon but less than 80% fixed carbon.

(c) with 20% or more fixed Fifteen rupees per tonne. carbon but less than 40% fixed carbon.

(d) with less than 20% fixed Ten rupees per tonne. carbon. 23. Gypsum Eight rupees per tonne.

24. Ilmenite Ten rupees per tonne.

25. Iron:

(i) ore lumps:

(a) with 65% Fe or more Six rupees per tonne. Written Answers DECEMBER 1988 Written Answers 344

(b) with 62% Fe or more Three rupees and fifty but less than 65% Fe paise per tonne.

(c) with 60% Fe or more Two rupees and fifty paise but less than 62% Fe per tonne.

(d) with less than 60% Fe Two rupees per tonne.

(ii) ore fines:

(A) fines (including natural fines produced incidental to mining and sizing of ore)

(a) with 65% Fe or more Three rupees and fifty paise per tonne.

(b) with 62% Fe or more Two rupees per tonne. but less than 65% Fe

(c) with less than 62% Fe One rupee and fifty paise per tonne.

(B) Concentrates prepared Fifty paise per tonne. by beneficiation and/or concentration of low grade ore containing 40% Fe or less.

26. Kyanite & Andalusite Forty rupees per tonne.

27. Lead ore Three rupees per unit per cent of contained lead metal per tonne of ore and on pro-rata basis

28. Limeshell (including calca­ Ten rupees per tonne. reous sand and chalk)

29. Limestone (including lime Ten rupees per tonne. kankar)

30. Magnesite Ten rupees per tonne.

31. Manganese ore:

(a) Manganese dioxide (con­ Forty-five rupees per tonne. taining 78% per cent or more of MnQ^and 4 per cent or belowTe)

(b) 46% Mn and above Fifteen rupees per tonne. 345 Written Answ m AGRAHAYANA10,1910 OSAKA) Written Answers 346

(c) 35% Mn and above but Nine rupees per tonne. below 46% Mn

(d) Below 35% Mn but above Six nipees per tonne. 25% Mn

(e) 25% Mn or below Two rupees per tonne.

32. Mica:

(a) Crude mica Ten rupees per 100 Kgs.

(b) Trimmed mica of qualities Sixty rupees per 100 Kgs. other than heavy stained, dense-stained or spotted second quality.

(c) Timmed mica of heavy Thirty rupees per 100 Kgs. stained, dense-stained or spotted second quality.

(d) Waste and scrap mica Four rupees per 100 Kgs.

(e) Waste rounds Five rupees per 100 Kgs.

33. Monazite Forty rupees per tonne.

34. Nickel Ore Two rupees per unit per cent of contained nickel metal per tonne of ore and on pro­ rata basis.

35. Ochre Six rupees per tonne.

36. Pyrites Twenty-five paise per unit per cent of sulphur per tonne of ore and on pro-rata basis.

37. Pyrophyllite Ten rupees per tonne.

38. Quartz and silica sand Five rupees per tonne. and moulding sand.

39. Quartzite Five rupees per tonne.

40. Rutile One hundred rupees per tonne.

41. Sand for stowing Forty paise per tonne.

42. Selenite Twenty rupees per tonne.

43. Sillimanite Fifty rupees per tonne. 347 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 348

44. Silver One hundred and fifty rupees per Kg. of metal.

45. Slate Eighteen rupees per tonne.

46. Talc, Steatite and Soapstone:

(a) insecticide grade Ten rupees per tonne.

(b) other than insecticides Thirty rupees per tonne. grade

47. Tungsten ore Twelve rupees per unit per cent contained of WOq per tonne of ore and on pro-rata basis.

48. Vermic ulite Eight rupees per tonne.

49. Wollastonite Thirty rupees per tonne.

50. Zinc ore Six rupees per unit per cent of zinc metal contained per tonne of ore and on pro-rata basis.

51. Zircon Ninety rupees per tonne.

52. All other minerals not Ten per cent of sale price here-in-before specified. at the pit's mouth. 349 STATEMENT-II

Rates of Mineral Rights Tax (MRT), Cess, etc. on Limestone, Coal & iron Ore Imposed by Various State Governments (As on April, 1988) Written Answer*

Mineral State MRT Cess Land Tax

1 2 3 4 5

IRON ORE Bihar - 300% of royalty - ,1910(£4AC4) 0 1 ACRAHAYANA

Karnataka 150% of On every rupee of surface royalty rent at different rates in different districts.

Kerala - - Rs. 20/- per hectare where the lease exceeds one hectare.

Madhya Rs. 5/- 100% of rental value based Land revenue per hectare vary­ Pradesh per tonne on royalty/dead rent. ing from Rs. 200 to 5000/- depending upon the total area leased.

Maharashtra - 10% of royalty -

Orissa - 200% of annual value -

Rajasthan 4 times the annual dead rent or twice royalty whichever is Written more for mining lease for more than 2 hectares.

Tamil Nadu Local cess 45% of royalty and - cess surcharge upto 250% of royalty « depending upon the grade of local Panchayat Union on mining lessees g who are themselves not pattadars. ______"-.... , .. , ..~.,." .•.. "., .. ~-~-"'-- ~~.- .....-... -- __ -.-.--. ~',.l ••• __ •• _

I 1 2 3 4 w 5 U1 West Bengal .. 1. Public Works Cess; 50 paise per tonne of annual mineral despatches. ~

2. Road Cess at the rate of 50 paise J per tonne. ~

3. Primary education cess; 12% ! of annual profit.

4. Rural employment cess; 6 paise on each rupee ot-annual despatches. DAL Andhra 300% of Telengana area 25% of royalty. Pradesh royalty ,..,o Andhra area 37% of royalty. (') Bihar ~ 40% of PMW ,..,cz, ;JO Madhya Rs.5/- .. Pradesh 125% of rental value based pert on .. on royalty/dead rent. land revenue per ~ hectare varying from 00 As. 200/- to As. 5f:XXJ/- depending upon the total area leased. Maharashtra 10% of royalty Orissa 200% of annual value Rajasthan ~ ii' 4 times the annual dead rent or s twice royalty whichever is more for mining lease for more than ~ 2 hectares. ~ Tamil Nadu C:.'I Local cess 45% of royalty and w .-t cess SUrchargeupto 250% O,",oyalty ~ ".:, '1 (.'..•.... . , -l .J .\ .~ J w depending upon the grade of local wVI Panchayat Union on mining lessees who are themselves not the pattadars. ~ ~ Public Works Cess @ 50 paise s West Bengal 1. per tonne of annual despatches. ~ '" ~ 2. Road Cess @ 50 paise per tonne (;I of annual despatches.

3. Primary Education Cess 5% 01 value of coal despatches ~ ~ 4. Rural employment Cess 20% of :t the value of coal. ?< > Z 150%01 Telengana area 25% of royalty. - > LIMESTONE Andhra Alodhra area 37% of royalty. p-" Pradesh royalty I.C-" 200% of royalty - -" Bihar 0

Gujarat Rs.25/- ~ ~~.r tonne

Or! every ri;~ee of surface rent at

Land revenue per hectare vary- ~ Madhya As. 5/- per 100% of rental value based on ing froni As, 200/- to As. 5000/- ~ i:I Pradesh tonne. royalty/dead rent. depending upon the iotiO: ~r~!i w le.;:ed. •VI

.--,-." ..,.,-..~~-- - "'-.-"--,,'"7'~ Maharashtra 10% of royalty Orissa - 200% of annual value

Rajasthan 4 times the annual dead rent or twice royalty whichever is more for mining lease for more than 2 hectares.

Tamil Nadu - Local cess 45% of royalty and cess surcharge upto 250% of royalty depend­ ing upon the grade of Local Panchayat Union on mining lessees who are them­ selves not the pattadars.

West Bengal - 1. Public Works Cess @ 50 paise per tonne of annual mineral despatches.

2. Road Cess <§> 50 paise per tonne. 3. Primary Education Cess 12% of annual profit.

4. Rural Employment Cess 6 paise on each rupee of annual despatches.

Uttar 45 paise per tonne in Dehradun Pradesh Mussoori area. 357 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 10,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 358

Scheme for Development of Sports in (c) whether the collaborators of these Rural Areas plants from abroad have given any guarantee regarding energy efficiency of 2981. SHRI. P. R. S. VENKATESAN: Will these plants; and the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: (d) if so, whether this guaranteed effi­ ciency of energy is being maintained in (a) the details of new schemes these plants? formulated for the development of sports in rural are^s; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF FERTILIZERS IN THE (b) the progress made in implementation MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI R. of the scheme in Tamil Nadu? PRABHU): (a) Yes, Sir. While the new gas based plants at Vijaipur and Aonla have THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE achieved 100% capacity utilisation of late, DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS AND Jagdishpur plant which started trial SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD production in October, 1988 is likely to do DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF so soon. HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRIMATI MARCARET ALVA): (a) This is, (b) Does not arise. 'Scheme of Providing sports Facilities/Infrastructure in Schools'. Under (c) Yes, Sir. Guarantees on energy effi­ this scheme, one time central financial ciency are given by the process assistance, upto Rs. 1.00 lakh, is provided to collaborators for periods of uninterrupted eligible secondary/senior secondary schools and steady runs of the plants. for creation of sports facilities/ infrastruc­ tures, without any matching contribution (d) Yes, Sir. from State Govt./School itself. To begin Appointment of SC/ST Officers in ASI with, only one such school in a C.D block would be assisted. The criterion for 2983. SHRI SITARAM J. CAVALI: Will the eligibility of a school has been given in the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE scheme itself. DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: (b) Govt, of Tamilnadu has so far sent 35 (a) whether reservation for Scheduled such proposals to Union Govt. All the pro­ Castes and Scheduled Tribes is applicable posals have been examined. In all the cases for direct recruitment/promotion in Group certain deficiencies have been found, which A Gazetted posts in the pay scale of Rs. have been communicated to the Govt, of 3000-4500 and above in archaeological Tamilnadu for removing them. Survey of India;

(b) if so, the number of officers pro­ Capacity Utilisation in Gas based fertilizer moted/directly recruited during the last Five Plants Years;

2982. SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN (c) the number of SC/ST officers out of SINHA: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE them; and be pleased to state: (d) if no SC/ST officer promoted/directly (a) whether the new gas based fertilizer recruited, the reasons for not applying plants are giving 100 per cent capacity reservation orders in respect of such posts? utilisation; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if not, the reasons thereof; DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND 359 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 360

CU LTU RE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND SHAH I): (a) According to the instructions of CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN the Covemment on the subject, reservation RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L P for SC/ST is applicable in Croup 'A' SHAHI): (a) Yes, Sir. Gazetted posts in Archaeological Survey of India in the pay scale of Rs. 3000-4500/- (b) The terms of reference and the and above, filled by direct recruitment. In composition of the Committee is Placed on making promotions to these posts, the Table of the House. [Placed in Library however, reservation for SC/ST is not appli­ See N.C.T.-7040/88]. Having completed its cable as the mode of promotion prescribed work, the Committee is no longer in is 'Selection'. existence.

(b) to (d). Information is given below:- (c) and (d). The recommendations made by the Chattopadhyaya Commission and Government's reaction thereon have Year No. of officers already been laid on the Table of the Sabha promoted/directly on 2.3.88 and 12.5.88. recruited World Calligraphy Exhibition in Delhi General SC/ST Category 29^5. SHRI PRATAPRAO B. BHOSALE: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: 1983 6 1984 8 1 (a) whether some exhibition on World 1985 6 4 Calligraphy has been organised in New 1986 3 - Delhi, 1987 6 - (b) if so, the name of the agency which Total , 29 5 organised it with special features of this exhibition; Chattopadhyaya Commission Report (c) whether Government propose to give more funds to this agency to hold 2984. SHRI MANIK REDDY: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE exhibitions and other activities to promote its goal; DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state:

(d) if so, the details thereof; and (a) whether Covemment appointed an Empowered Committee on 16th October, (e) if not, the reasons therefor? 1985 to examine the recommendations made by the Chattopadhyaya Commission THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and the committee was reconstituted; DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN (b) if so, the terms of reference and the RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L P. present composition of the committee; SHAHI): (a) Yes, Sir.

(c) the details of recommendations of the (b) The Exhibition on World Calligraphy committee and action taken by Government entitled 'AKARA' has been organised under thereon; and the aegis of the Indira Gandhi National Centre for the Arts (IGNCA). The special (d) Government's reaction to the features of the exhibition include a display recommendations? of calligraphic work from all parts of the 361. Written Answers AGKAHAYANA10,1910(SAM) Written Answers 362 world. It is divided into eight principal required information will be laid on the sections. These include exhibits and sound Table of the House. which show the transference of sound into letter writing, the evolution of primitive Number of Mini Steel Plants scripts such as those of pre-historic man in Bhimbetka, American Indians, Hieroglyphs 2987. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA: Will and Cuneiform. One section is devoted to the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be the evolution of Indian scripts from the pleased to state: Indus Valley to Indian languages. Another section includes calligraphic examples from (a) the number of mini steel plants Siddham and Tibetan and yet another on functioning in the country, State-wise; Arabic-perso and on South East Asian and Roman scripts. The exhibition also (b) whether some mini-steel plants are highlights the technology of handwriting in facing problems and most of them have relation to modern tools and needs and the closed down; and interconnections between Calligraphy and typography computography, painting, (c) if so, the details thereof? musical notations. THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES (c) The ICNCA is a registered Trust (SHRI M. L. FOTEDAR): (a) As per which has drawn up a Conceptual Plan for information available with the Development different Divisions of the institution. One of Commissioner, Iron and Steel, Calcutta, the the divisions of IGNCA will concentrate on number of functioning mini steel plants, exhibitions, seminars on universal single State-wise, is as follows:- unifying themes. S.No. Name of State/ Number (d) and (e). Do not arise. Union Territory of units

Use of Foreign Trade Name by Infant Food 1. Andhra Pradesh 6 Manufacturers 2. Assam 2 3. Bihar 5 2986. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD RAWAT: Will 4. Chandigarh 1 the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE 5. Delhi 1 DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: 6. Gujarat 6 7. Haryana 8 (a) whether Government are aware that 8. Himachal Pradesh 3 the infant food products manufacturers are 9. Jammu & Kashmir f 1 still using the foreign trade name 10. Karnataka 11 i.e."Nestle"; 11. Kerala 1 12. Madhya Pradesh 7 (b) if so, whether any action is proposed 13. Maharashtra 25 to stop the use of foreign trade names by 14. O rissa 1 Food Products manufacturers; and 15. Punjab 8 16. Pondichercy 1 (c) what is the Government policy in this 17. Rajasthan 7 regard? 18. Tam il Nadu 5 19. Uttar Pradesh 22 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 20. West Bengal 20 DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS AND SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD Total 141 DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (b) and (c). The viability of some mini (SHRIMATI MARCARET ALVA): (a) to (c). The steel plants in the country during the last 363 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 364 few years has been affected due to their ii) Strengthening of deep sea fishing technological obsolescence; Mini Steel fleet through indigenous, imported Plants have also represented regarding and chartered fishing vessels; shortage of power and high prices of other inputs. iii) Provision of 33% subsidy on the cost of indigenously constructed 2. It is not correct to state that most of deep sea fishing vessels; the mini steel plants have closed down. About 20 units are reported to be lying iv) augmentation of survey of fishery closed due to financial, labour and manage­ resources; rial problems. v) construction of fishing harbours at Tapping Marine Resources major and minor ports;

2988. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: vi) training of fishery operative for Will the Minister of ACRICULTURE be manning fishing vessels; pleased to state: vii) regulation of fishing through leg­ (a) whether Bay of Bengal Programme islative measures. (BOBP) of Food and Agricultural Organisa­ tion (FAO) has not made much progress in Grants to Birla Institute of Technology, the development of modern fishing crafts Mesra for poor fishermen; 2989. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD (b) if so, the steps taken by Government SINCH: Will the Minister of HUMAN RE­ in this regard; and SOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: (c)vthe details of progress made so far in tapping marine resources in Exclusive Eco­ (a) whether University Grants Commis­ nomic Zone and also future programmes in sion has sanctioned a grant of rupees thirty this regard? seven lakhs and fifty thousand to Birla Insti­ tute of Technology, Mesra, Ranchi for de­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE velopment in September, 1987;. DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE. AND COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF (b) whether the above grant has been re­ ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): leased to the Institute; (a) and (b). The Bay of Bengal Programme (BOBP) has developed a mechanised beach (c) whether the above grant includes a landing craft, suitable for operation from grant of rupees ten lakhs for the surf beaten coast. The Government of India construction of the second girls' hostel; under a Centrally sponsored scheme have sanctioned introduction of about 200 of (d) whether the amount for this propose such craft through fishermen co-operative has also been released; societies. (e) whether instead of constructing the (c) Some of the important steps taken by second girls' hostel, a residential block of the Government for tapping the marine fish­ staff quarters has been converted into, the ery resources through various plan schemes second girls' hostel; and are:- (f) if so, the reasons, therefor? i) Introduction of mechanised boats and modernisation of traditional THE MINISTER OF* STATE IN THE DE­ craft; PARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND 365 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SA/G4) Written Answers 366

CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN drought relief assistance, into medium-term, RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L P. loans; SHAH I) (a) and (b). Yes, Sir, Out of Rs. 37.50 lakhs sanctioned to the Birta Institute (b) whether any study has been made by of Technology, Mesra, Ranchi by the Union Government regarding the proper University Crants Commission in its letter use of the drought relief assistance in dated 13.9.87, Rs. 18.875 lakhs have been Karnataka; and released to the Institute, so far. (c) if so, the details thereof? (c) and (d). Yes, Sir, University Grants Commission will release the grant for con­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE­ struction of the second girls' Hostel to the PARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND Institute on receipt and acceptance of the COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF plans and estimates. ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): (a) No, Sir, No short-term loans have been (e) and (f). An Interim arrangement for made available to the State Government of Girls' accommodation has been made by Karnataka under drought relief assistance the Institute by converting a block of staff nor has any request been received from the quarters into a Girls' hostel. State Government for conversion of such short-term loans into medium-term loans. Freight Equalisation Scheme (b) and (c). A Central Monitoring Team 2990. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MAN DAL: has been constituted to visit Karnataka to Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be monitor the use of the drought relief assis­ pleased to state: tance in the State.

(a) whether Union Government's deci­ sion to extend the freight equalisation Cashewnut Factories in Kerala scheme for iron and steel to cover its trans­ port by road has led the State of West Ben­ 2992. PROF. K. V. THOMAS: Will the gal losing locational advantage; Minister of FOOD PROCESSING INDUS­ TRIES be pleased to state: (b) if so, whether Government proposes to reconsider the extension of this freight (a) how many cashewnut processing fac­ parity scheme; and tories are functioning in Kerala since last three years; (c) if not, the reasons therefor? (b) whether cashewnut factories are THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES moving out of Kerala; (SHRI M. L FOTEDAR): (a) No, Sir. (c) if so, the reasons therefor; (b) and (c). Do not arise. (d) the financial assistance given to these Conversion of Short Term Loan into factories; and Medium Term Loan (e) whether the repayment from these 2991. SHRI H. B. PATH: Will the Minister factories is regular? of ACRICULTURE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) whether the Karnataka Government MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING IN­ has urged Union Government to convert DUSTRIES (SHRI JACD1SH TYTLER): (a) to the short-term loans which were made (e). The information is being collected and available to the State Government under will be laid on the Table of the House. 367 Written Answers DECEMBER 1,1988 Written Answers 368

Schem e to Increase Cashewnut cooking coal from the Soviet Union next Production year for blending with indigenous coal;

2993. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU: Will the (b) if so, the quantity likely to be im­ Minister of ACRICULTURE be pleased to ported and the formula evolved for blending state: the coal already imported from the U.S.S.R.;

(a) whether any scheme is under prepa­ (c) whether its commercial viability has ration to raise cashewnut production in the already been estabfished by the Steel country; Authority of India Limited (SAIL); and

(b) if so, the details thereof; (d) if so, whether the blended coal is proposed to be used in other coal-based (c) the gap between the demand and ac­ industries also, both in the private and tual production; public sectors?

(d) the steps being taken to bridge the THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES gap* (SHRI M. L FOTEDAR): (a) to (c). Keeping in view the results of the trial run of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE sample of about 30,000 tonnes of coking DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND coal recently imported from USSR, SAIL COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF propose to undertake further extensive ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): trials with the help of another 1.0 lakh (a) and (b). A Centrally Sponsored Package tonnes of Soviet coal. The quantities and Programme on Cashewnut Development is commercial terms and conditions in respect already being implemented for increasing of coking coal to be imported next year production and productivity of cashewnut from Soviet Union will depend upon the with an outlay of Rs. 481.84 lakhs during results of these extensive trials. Seventh Five Year Plan. The Programme includes expansion of area, demonstration (d) There is no proposal at present to of improved cultivation techniques, use Soviet coking coal in conjunction with popularisation of plant protection measures indigenous coal in other coal based and production of quality planting material. industries.

(c) The estimated annual requirement of Use of Flavours and Colours raw cashewnuts is around 3.20 lakh tonnes by the end of Seventh Five Year Plan and 2995. DR. B. L SHAILESH: Will the the production of raw cashewnuts in the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING INDUS­ country during 1985-86 was roughly TRIES be pleased to refer to the reply given estimated as 2.34 lakh tonnes. on 8th December, 1987 to Unstarred Ques­ tion No. 4749 regarding colour manufactur­ (d) The Centrally Sponsored Package ing units not covered under PFA rules and Programme on Cashewnut Development is state: being implemented for increasing production of cashewnuts. (a) whether it has come to Government's notice that adulterated food coloun and Import of Coal From U.S.S.R flavours have been used with impurity re­ cently by the confectioners, particularly dur­ 2994. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MAN DAL: ing the Diwali festival, not only in the capital Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be but throughout the country; pleased to state: (b) whether the existing mechanism to (a) whether it is proposed to import check the certification and use of permitted 369 Written Answers ACRAHAYANA10,1910(SAM) Written Answers 370 food colours and flavours under the ISI package under the programme of Mass Ori­ mark is not quite adequate, particularly in entation for School Teachers (PMOST); the vast areas of the country; and (b) if so, the steps being taken by Gov­ (c) if so, the steps being taken to discon­ernment thereon; and tinue the use of such flavours and colours, when they do not have any food value and (c) the suggestion given by NCERT in re­ are ultimately having qarcinogenic effect on gard thereto? the human body? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINSTER OF STATE OF THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING IN­ CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN DUSTRIES (SHRI JACDISH TYTLER): (a) RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L There have been press reports from time to P.SHAHI); (a) to (c). Specially prepared time about adulterated food colours and educational TV programmes are being used flavours being used by confectioners. for Programme of Mass Orientation for School Teachers (PMOST) has been (b) and (c). Use of food additives like preparing such programmes since 1986. flavours and colours is controlled under the These programmes are produced in Hindi prevention of Food Adulteration Act and and English, but are preceded by synopses necessary checks etc. are conducted by the in thirteen regional languages according to respective State Government agencies. To local needs. NCERT propose to further im­ have a control on the quality of food prove the programme in 1989 by involving colours, their specifications have been laid some State Institutes of Educational Tech­ down under the PFA Rules and it has been nology for developing video programmes made mandatory that food colours are sold based on the specific needs in different re­ only under ISI certification system for gional languages, and also to use coaltar based food colours, food colour audiotapes developed by Central Institute preparations and food additives is based on of English & Foreign Languages, Hyderabad, an in-process quality control wherein its Regional Institute of Education, Bangalore, officers periodically draw random samples Central Institute of Indian Languages, for the testing of such materials bearing the Mysore and Regional College of Education, ISI certification mark at the factory premises Mysore. of manufacturers holding valid licences from the Bureau. These periodical inspections are normally carried out quarterly. Any violation of the provisions of PFA are liable for action. It has not been brought to the notice of this 12.00 hrs. Ministry that the existing mechanism to check the certification and use of permitted [English] food colours and flavours under the ISI Mark is not adequate. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirhat): I have sent you a letter. The West Bengal Regional Programmes on AIR/TV for Government has urgently asked the Finance School Teachers Ministry for Rs. 25 crores...

2995-A. SHRI SRIBALIAV PANIGRAHI: M R .SPEAKER: I will take care. Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: There has been a devastating cyclone in the coastal areas... (a) whether there is a proposal for mak- ing television and radio programmes in re- MR. SPEAKER: That is why, I have already gional languages as a part of the training allowed it. 371 DECEMBER 1,1988 372

SHRI IN DRAJIT GUPTA; 150,000 houses MR. SPEAKER: No question. Do not have collapsed. We want to know whether waste my time, Look here, it is my job. I will the Finance Ministry will sanction that do it when it comes to me. I will cross the money which has been asked for urgently bridge when I come to it. It is not your job. by the West Bengal Government. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: You are MR. SPEAKER: I do not know what they entitled to know the position... will do, but I aro allowing that. (Interruption)*

PROF. P. J. KURIEN (Idukki): An hon. MR. SPEAKER: This hon. Member is Member of this House, Mr. Vijayaraghvan, completely irrelevant. Nothing goes on was brutally assaulted by the police. We record. have given a privilege notion... (Interruptions)* MR. SPEAKER: It is under my consider­ ation. MR. SPEAKER: Why are you worried about it? There is no question. It is most PROF. P. J. KURIEN: We would like to irrelevant. know what is you ruling on the privilege motion. You are t.he custodian of the rights (Interruptions)* of the Members of this House. MR. SPEAKER: You sit down. Do not MR. SPEAKER: There is no need to shout. waste my time. It is my job. I will do it I said yesterday emphatically and clearly when it comes to me. that I had written to the Home Ministry for certain information. The minute it reaches I SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: Why do you will give my ruling and do whatever is not clarify?... needed. Do not worry. (Interruptions) SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA RAO (Vijayawada): I have given a calling attention MR. SPEAKER: There is no question of notice regarding falling prices of cotton in clarification. Now you sit down. Andhra Pradesh... (Interruptions)* MR. SPEAKER: You can give me. Anyway, I had referred to it yesterday. MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Minister, will you please ask your Member to behave SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK (Panaji): I am properly? I do not like the behaviour of this on a point of order. Member.

MR. SPEAKER: There is no question of (Interruptions) point of order.

t [TranslationJ SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: I would like to know whether the Janata Party and Lok Dal have applied to you for recognition as SHRI SHAMINDER SINGH (Faridkot): Janata Dal... The entire nation wishes peace In Punjab and they are making efforts for it. AN HON. MEMBER: What has it to do w ith you? MR. SPEAKER; That is a good thing.

* Not recorded. 373 Papers Laid ACRAHAYANA 10,1910(S4M) Papers Laid 37*

SHRI SHAM INDER SINGH: But I want (SH RI M. L FOTEDAR): beg to lay on the to submit through you ... Table;-

(Interruptions)* (1) A copy of the Mineral Conserva­ tion and Development Rules, 1989 MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed. Irrelevant. (Hindi and English versions) pub­ Nothing doing. lished in Notification No. G.S.R. 1023(E) in Gazette of India dated SHRI SRIBAUAV PANICRAHI (Deogarh): the 24th October, 1988, under A number of trains have been withdrawn. sub-section (1) of section 28 of the Timings have been changed. And this is Mines and Minerals (Regulation causing great inconvenience to the and Development) Act, 1957. passengers... [Placed in library. See No. LT 6817/88] SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY (Puri): Because of this, an agitation is going on (2) A copy each of the following there. papers (Hindi and English versions) under sub-section (1) of MR. SPEAKER: It is a State subject; I am section 619A of the Companies not concerned at all. Act, 1956:-

SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY: No, it (a) (i) Review by the Government on is Railways. the working of the Bharat Alu­ minium Company Limited, SHRI SRIBALLAV PANICRAHI: It comes New Delhi, for the year 1987- under Covemment of India. A number of 88 . trains have been cancelled, (ii) Annual Report of the Bharat MR. SPEAKER: You give to me in writing. Aluminium Company Limited, New. Delhi for the year 1987- SHRI SRIBALLAV PANICRAHI: I have 88 along * with Audited already given. Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor MR. SPEAKER: All right, I will see. General thereon* [Placed in library. See No. LT 6818/88J

(b) (i) Review by the Covemment on 12.03 hrs. the working of the Visakhapat- nam Steel Project (Rashtriya [English] Ispat Nigam Limited), for the year 1907-88. PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE (ii) Annual Report of the Visakha- The Mineral Conservation and patnam Steel Project (Rashtriya Development Rules, 1988 and Ispat Nigam Limited), for the Review on the Working of and year 1987-88 along with Au­ Annual Report of Bharat dited Accounts and the com­ aluminium Report of Bharat ments of the Comptroller and Aluminium company ltd. Auditor General thereon. 1987-88 etc. [Placed in library. See No. LT 6819/88] THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES

* kl.4 O..___J>.J 375 Papm Laid DECEMBER 1,1986 Papers laid 376

(c) (i) Review by the Government on the Comptroller and Auditor the working of the Vijayanagar General thereon. [Placed in Steel Limited for the year 1987- library. See No. LT 6823/88] 88 . Review on the Working of and Annual Re­ (ii) Annual Report of the Vi­ port of the Bihar Fruit and Vegetable De­ jayanagar Steel Limited, for the velopment Corporation Ltd. for 1986-87 year 1987-88 along with Au­ etc. dited Accounts and the com­ ments of the Comptroller and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Auditor General thereon. MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING [Placed in library. See No. LT INDUSTRIES (SH R I JAGDISH TYTLER): I 6820/88] beg to lay on the Table:-

(d) (i) Review by the Government on (1) A copy each of the following the working of the Neelachal papers (Hindi and English Ispat Nigam Limited, versions) under section 619 A of Bhubaneswar, for the year the Companies Act, 1956:- 1987-88. (a) (i) Review by the Government (ii) Annual Report of the Neelachal on the working of the Ispat Nigam Limited, Bihar Fruit and Vegetable Bhubaneswar, for the year 1987-88 along with Audited Development Corporation Accounts and the comments of Limited, Patna, for the year the Comptroller and Auditor 1986-87. General thereon. [Placed in library. See No. LT 6821 /88] (ii) Annual Report of the Bihar Fruit and Vegetable De­ (e) (i) Review by the Government on velopment Corporation the working of the Hindustan Zinc Limited, Udaipur for the Limited, Patna for the year year 1987-88. 1986-87 along with Audited Accounts and the (ii) Annual Report of the Hindus­ comments of the tan Zinc Limited, Udaipur, for Comptroller and Auditor the year 1987-88 along with General thereon. [Placed Audited Accounts and the in library. See No. LT comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon. 6824/88] [Placed in library. See No. LT 6822/88] (b) (i) Review by the Government on the working of the (f) (i) Review by the Government on North Eastern Regional the working of the Mineral Ex­ Agricultural Marketing ploration Corporation Limited, Nagpur, for the year 1987-88. Corporation Limited, Guwahati, for the year (ii) Annual Report of the Mineral 1987-88. Exploration Corporation Lim­ ited, Nagpur for the year 1987- (ii) Annual Report of the North 88 along with Audited Eastern Regional Accounts and the comments of Agricultural Marketing 377 Papers Laid ACRAHAYANA1 0 ,1910(S>WCA) Papers Laid 378

Corporation Limited, tion 458 of the Merchant Shipping Cuwahati, for the year Act, 1958:- 1987-88 along with (i) C.S.R. 921(E) published in Audited Accounts and the Cazette of India dated the 12th comments of the September, 1988 containing Comptroller and Auditor Corrigenda to Notification No. Ceneral thereon. {Placed C.S.R. 473(E) dated the 11th in library. See No. LT May, 1987. 6825/88] (ii) The Merchant Shipping (Indian Fishing Boats Inspection) (2) A statement (Hindi and English Rules, 1988 published in versions) showing reasons for Notification No. C.S.R. 922(E) delay in laying the papers in Cazette of India dated the mentioned at (a) of item (1) above. 12th September 1988.

(iii) C.S.R. 923(E) published in (3) (i) A copy of the Annual Re­ Cazette of India dated the 12th port (Hindi and English September, 1988 containing versions) of the Paddy Pro­ Corrigenda to Notification No. cessing Research Centre C.S.R. 70(E) dated the 24th (Tamil Nadu) Society January, 1985. [Placed in Thanjavur for the year library. See No. LT 6827/88] 1987-88 along with (2) A copy each of the following Audited Accounts. papers (Hindi and English versions) under sub-section (91) of (ij) A copy of the Review section 619A of the Companies (Hindi and English ver­ Act, 1956:- sions) by the Covemment on the working of the (a) (i) Review by the Covemment on Paddy Processing Research the working of the Shipping Centre (Tamil Nadu) Soci­ Corporation of India, Bombay, for ety Thanjavur, for the year the year 1986-87. 1987-88. [Placed in library. See No. LT (ii) Annual Report of the Shipping 6826/88] Corporation of India Limited, Bombay, for the year 1986-87 along with Audited Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller Notifications under the Merchant and Auditor Ceneral thereon. Shipping Act, 1958; Review on the [Placed in library. See No. LT Working and Annual Report of the 6828/88] Shipping corporation of India, Bombay for 1986-87 etc. (b) (i) Review by the Government on the working of the Mogul Line THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Limited, Bombay, for the year MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI 1985-86. RAjESH PILOT): I beg to lay on the Table:-- (ii) Annual Report of the Mogul (1) A copy each of the following Noti­ Line Limited, Bombay, for the year fications (Hindi and English ver­ 1985-86 along with Audited Ac­ sions) under sub-section (3) of sec­ 379 Papers Laid DECEMBER 1,1988 Papers Laid 360

counts and the comments of the (6) (i) A copy of the Annual Re­ Comptroller and Auditor General port (Hindi and English thereon. [Placed in library. See versions) of the Visakhap- No. LT 6829/88] atnam Dock Labour Board for the year 1987-88 along (c) (i) Review by the Government on with Audited Accounts. the working of the Cochin Shipyard Limited for the year 1987- 88 . (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi and English ver­ (ii) Annual Report of the Cochin sions) by the Government Shipyard Limited, for the year on the working of the * 1987-88 along with Audited Ac­ Visakhapatnam Dock counts and the comments of the Labour Board, for the year Comptroller and Auditor General thereon. 1987-88. [Placed in library. See No. LT 6833/88] (3) Two statements (Hindi and English versions) showing reasons for delay in laying the papers Annual Report and Review on the working mentioned at (a) and (b) of item of the Council for Advancement of No. (2) above. [Placed in library. People's Action and Rural Technology, See No. LT 6830/88] New Delhi for 1987-88

(4) (i) A copy of the Annual Report THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (Hindi and English versions) of DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT the Seamen's Provident Fund IN THE MINISTRY OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI Organisation, Bombay, for the JANARDHANA POOJARY): I beg to lay on year 1987-88 along with Au­ the Table: dited Accounts.

(ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi and English versions) by the Government on the working of (1) (i) A copy of the Annual Report the Seamen's Provident Fund (Hindi and English versions) of Organisation, Bombay, for the the Council for Advancement of year 1987-88. [Placed in People's Action and Rural Tech­ library. See No. LT 6831/88] nology, New Delhi, for the year 1987-88 along with Audited Ac­ (5) (i) A copy of the Annual Report counts. (Hindi and English verssions) of the Madras Dock Labour Board, for the year 1987-88 along with Audited Accounts. (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi and English versions) by the Gov­ (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi ernment on the working of the and English versions) by the Council for Advancement of Government] on the working of People's Action and Rural Tech­ the Madras Dock Labour Board nology, New Delhi, for the year for the year 1987-88 [Placed in 1987-88. [Placed in library. See library. See.No. LT 6832/88] No. LT 6834/88] 361 Papers Laid ACRAHAYANA 10,1910(M*A) Papers Laid 362

TheRam pur Raza Library Board nology, Jamshedpur, tor the (Delegation of financial Powers) year 1987-88. [Placed in Regulations, 1986 Annual Report and library. See No. LT 6837/88] Review on the working of the Central Institute of Higher Tibetan Studies (Post (4) A copy of the Annual Accounts Graduate Teachinga nd Research) (Hindi and English versions) of the Saranath, for 1966-87 Regional Engineering College, Ku- rukshetra, for the year 1987-88 to­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE gether with Audit Report thereon. DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND [Placed in library. See No. LT CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN 6838/88] RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. SHAHI): I beg to lay on the Table:- (5) A copy of the Annual Accounts (Hindi and English versions) of the (1) A copy of the Rampur Raza Library Regional Engineering College, Board (Delegation of Financial Warangal, for the year 1987-88 to­ Powers) Regulations, 1988 (Hindi gether with Audit Report thereon. and English versions) published in [Placed in library. See No. LT Notification No. F. 8-4/RRL/84 in 6839/88] Cazette of India dated the 6th August, 1988, under sub-section (6) A copy of the Annual Accounts (4) of section 28 of the Rampur (Hindi and English versions) of the Raza Library Act, 1975. [Placed in Regional Engineering College, library. See No. LT 6835/88] Rourkela, for the year 1987-88 to­ gether with Audit Report thereon. (2) (i) A copy of the Annual Report [Placed in Library. See No. LT (Hindi and English versions) of 6840/88] the Central Institute of Higher Tibetan Studies (Post Graduate (7) A copy of the Annual Accounts Teaching and Research) (Hindi and English versions) of the Saranath, for the year 1987-88 Maulana Azad College of Technol­ along with Audited Accounts. ogy (Regional Engineering College) Bhopal, for the year 1987-88 (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi together with Audit Report and English versions) by the thereon. [Placed in Library. See Government on the working of No. LT 7841/88] the Central Institute of Higher (8) (i) A copy of the Annual Report Tibetan Studies (Post Graduate (Hindi and English versions) of Teaching and Research) the National Institute for Train­ Saranath, for the year 1987-88. ing in Industrial Engineering, [Placed in library. See No. LT Bombay, for the year 1987-88 6836/88] along with Audited Accounts.

(3) (i) A copy of the Annual Report (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi and (Hindi and English versions) of English versions) by the Gov­ the Regional Institute of Tech­ ernment on working of the Na­ nology, Jamshedpur, for the tional Institute for Training in year 1987-88. Industrial Engineering, Bombay, for the year 1987-88. [Placed in (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi Library. See No. LT 7842/88] and English versions) by the Government on the working of (9) (i) A copy of the Annual Report the Regional Institute of Tech­ (Hindi and English versions) of 383 Paper Laid DECEMBER 1,1988 Paper Laid 384

the Indian Institute of Manage­ sub-section (3) of section 3 of the ment, Ahmedabad, for the year Tamil Nadu State Legislature 1987-88 along with Audited Ac­ (Delegation of Powers Act, 1988:- counts. (i) The Tamil Nadu Agricultural (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi and Service Cooperative Societies English versions) by the Gov­ (Appointment of Special Officers) ernment on the working of the Second Amendment Act, 1988 Indian Institute of Management, (President Act No. 4 of 1988) Ahmedabad, for the year 1987- published in Gazette of India 88. (Placed in Library See. No. dated the 27th September, 1988. LT 7843/88] (ii) The Tamil Nadu Cooperative So­ (10) (i) A copy of the Annual Report cieties (Appointment of Special (Hindi and English versions) of Officers) Second Amendment the Indian Institute of Manage­ Act, 1988 (President Act, No. 7 ment, Lucknow for the year of 1988) published in Gazette of 1987-88 along with Audited India dated the 8th October, Accounts. 1988. [Placed in Library. See No. LT 6846/88] (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi and English versions) by the Gov­ (2) A copy of Notification No. SRO ernment on the working of the A-131/88 (Hindi and English ver­ Indian Institute of Management, sions) published in Tamil Nadu Lucknow, for the year 1987-88. Gazette dated the 6ih July, 1988 [Placed in Library. See No. LT making amendments to the 7844/88] Tamil Nadu Cooperative Societies Rules, 1988, under sub­ National Youth Policy section (5) of section 180 of the Tamil Nadu Cooperative THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Societies Act, 1983. read with DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS AND clause (c) (iv) of the SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD Proclamation dated the 30th DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF January, 1988 issued by the HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT President in relation to the State (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA): Sir, I beg to of Tamil Nadu. [Placed in Library. lay on the Table a copy of the National See No. LT 6847/88] Youth Policy (Hindi and English versions). (Placed in Library. See No. LT 6845/88] (3) A copy of the following papers (Hindi and English versions) under The Tamil Nadu Agricultural Services Co­ section 619A of the Companies Act, operative Societies (Appointment of 1956 read with clause (c) (iv) of the Special Officers) second Amendment proclamation dated the 11th May, Act 1988 etc. etc. 1987 issued by the president in rela­ tion to the State of Punjab:- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF ACRICULTURE AND (a) A statement regarding Review by COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF the Government on the working of ACRICULTURE (SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV): I the Punjab Poultry Development beg to lay on the Table: Corporation Urriited, Chandigarh, for the years 1980-81, 1981-82, (1) A copy each of the following papers 1982-83, 1983-84, 1984-85, 1985- (Hindi and English versions) under 86 and 1986-87. 385 Papers Laid ACRA1HAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SA/G4) Papers Laid 386

(b) (i) Annual Report of the Punjab ments of the Comptroller and Poultry Development Coq:K-ra­ Auditor General thereon. tion Limited, Chandigarh, for the year 1980-81 along with (4) Seven statements (Hindi and En­ Audited Accounts and the glish versions) showing reasons for comments of the Comptroller delay in laying the papers men­ and Auditor General thereo n. tioned at (2) above. [Placed in li­ brary. See No. LT-6848/88] (ii) Annual Report of the Pumjab Poultry Development Corp ora­ (5) (i) A copy of the Annual ‘Report tion Limited, Chandigarh, for (Hindi and English versions) of the year 1981-82 along with the Coconut Development Audited Accounts and com­ Board, Cochin, for the year ments of the Comptroller and 1987-88 along with Audited Ac­ Auditor General thereon. counts, under sub-section (4) of section 15 and sub-section (4) of (iii) Annual Report of the Punjab section 17 of the Coconut De­ Poultry Development Corpora­ velopment Board Act, 1979. tion limited, Chandigarh, for the year 1982-83 along with (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi and Audited Accounts and com­ English versions) by the Gov­ ments of the Comptroller and ernment on the working of the Auditor General thereon. “Coconut Development Board, Cochin, for the year 1987-88. (iv) Annual Report of the Punjab [Placed in Library. See No. LT Poultry Development Corpora­ 6849/88] tion Limited, Chandigarh, for the year 1983-84 alomg with (6) A copy of the Tamil Nadu Cooper­ Audited Accounts and com­ ative Societies Rules, 1988 (Hindi ments of the Comptroller and and English versions) published in Auditor General thereo n. Notification No. S.R.O. A-73/88 in Tamil Nadu Gazette dated the (v) Annual Report of th€; Punjab 13th April, 1988 under sub-section Poultry Development Corpora­ (5) of section 180 of the Tamil tion Limited, Chandigjarh, for Nadu Cooperative Societies Act, the year 1984-85 along with 1983 read with Clause (c) (iv) of Audited Accounts and the the Proclamation dated the 30th comments of the Comptroller January, 1988 issued by the Presi­ and Auditor General thereon. dent in relation to the State of Tamil Nadu. [Placed in Library. (vi) Annual Report of the Punjab See No. LT 6850/88] Poultry Development Corpora­ tion Limited, Chandigarh, for The Size and Nature of Tyres the year 1985-86 alomg with (Amendment) r Jes, 1988 Audited Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller THE MINISTER OP STATE OF THE MIN­ and Auditor General thereon. ISTRY OF SURFACE s^NSPORT (SHRI RA- JESH PILOT): Sir, on behalf of Shri P. Nam- (vii) Annual Report of the Punjab gyal, I beg to lay on the Table a copy of the Poultry Development Corpora­ Size and Nature of Tyres (Amendment) tion Limited, Chandigarh, for Rules, 1983 (Hindi and English versions) the year 1986-87 along with published in Notification No. G.S.R. 1019 Audited Accounts and com­ (E) in Gazette of India dated the 17th Octo­ 387 Call Attention re: Pofution DECEMBER 1,1988 of Brahmaputra River 388 ber, 1983, u nder sub-section (4) of section portance and request that he may make a 133 of the Motor Vehicles Act, 1939. statement thereon: [Placed in Library. See No. LT 6857/88] ” Reported pollution of river Brahma­ putra due to a peculiar disease afflict­ ing fish and vegetable plants in Assam and the steps taken by the Govern­ ment in that regard." 12.05 hrs. 12.07 hrs. COMMITTEE ON THE WELFARE OF SCHEDULED CASTES AND SCHEDULED [Mr. Deputy Speaker in the chair] TRIBES THE MINISTER OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI [English] BHAJAN LAL): Sir, Outbreak of Ulcerative Diseases Syndrome in fishes, was first ob­ Reports of Study Tour of Study Groups I served in certain parts of Assam and Tripura and II States in the month of April/May, 1989 and subsequently in Meghalaya. This disease is SHRI ARVIND NETAM (Kanker): Sir, I understood to have spread in these States beg to lay on the Table a copy each of the from Bangladesh. following Reports (Hindi and English ver> sions) of the Study Tours of the Committee On receipt of reports on the outbreak of on the Welfare of Scheduled Castes and this fish disease in Cachar and Karimganj Scheduled Tribes: districts of Assam, and parts of Tripura and consequent on the investigations carried (i) Report of the Study Tour of Study out by the specialists of the Central Institute Group I of the Committee on its of Freshwater Aquaculture, Bhubaneswar visit to Calcutta, Agartala, Guwa- and the Central Inland Capture Fisheries hati, Shillong and Calcutta during Research Institute, Darrackpore, the State October, 1988. Governments were requested to take reme­ dial measures for containing the spread of (ii) Report of the Study Tour of Study this disease, which are as follows: Group II of the Committee on its visit to Bombay, Goa, Bombay, Au­ (i) Fishes in the waters near the rangabad and Udaipur during ponds are to be closely observed October, 1988. by the farmers;

(ii) The water inlet of the pond should be closed, if possible, when neighbouring waters show signs of CALLING ATTENTION TO MATTER OF UR­ disease; GENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE (iii) Water from agricultural areas [English] coming into the ponds should be prevented, especially during rainy Reported pollution of river Brahmaputra season; due to a peculiar disease afflicting fish and vegetable plants in Assam (iv) Lime at 60-100 kg,per 0.16 ha. be applied 3-4 times after every 3 SHRI M. R. SAIKIA (Nowgong): Sir, I call weeks over the water surface; the attention of the Minister of Agriculture to th* following matter of urgent public im­ (v) Salt at 200-300 kg per 0.16 ha. 389 O N Attention re: Potution ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SVC4) of Brahm&putn River 390

should be applied when water be­ fish farmers. Remedial measures for con­ comes very polluted; taining the spread of this disease have been taken and further action will be initiated (vl) Water from other sources should only after the receipt of the report of the be allowed into the ponds only Central Technical Team. when the disease situation is cleared; and No report of any disease afflicting veg­ etable plants due to the said water pollution (vii) The farmer should commence the has been reported by the Assam Agriculture above recommendations immedi­ University or ICAR Research Complex, Shil­ ately when it is found that the fish long and neither from the Agriculture Direc­ in the pond show signs of infec­ tor of the State Government However, tion. Agriculture Director, Assam has instructed his field Staff for conducting a survey so as These remedial measures have helped in to know whether the vegetables have been containing the spread of diseases in Tripura affected by any such disease or not. and Meghalaya to a great extent, but, in As­ sam, unfortunately, it is reported to have SHRI M. R. SAIKIA (Nowgong): Sir, As­ spread to other districts. It is estimated that sam has been suffering from devastating about 6,700 ha. culturable water area has floods for the last three years continuously. been affected, resulting in the loss of fishery This year also people of Assam have been crop, besides affecting capture fisheries in suffering from devastating floods, three or the rivers. In all, this has adversely affected four times successively. Immediately after the fish farmers, fishermen and fish traders. recovering from the miseries and ravages caused by floods, the people of Assam had With a view to educating the fisheries to face a grave situation. The report has al­ personnel posted in the affected States, the ready appeared that a peculiar disease has Central Institute of Freshwater Aquaculture appeared in Assam. It was reported that it (ClFA), Bhubneswar, organised a short-term appeared first in Australia. Subsequently, it course also during September, 1988 at travelled to Bangkok, Thailand, Singapore, Dhauli, Bhubneswar. Recently, the Chief Japan and Bangladesh. From Bangladesh it Coordinator, FAO's Network of Aquaculture came to Barak Valley. The last flood Centres in Asia (NACA), Bangkok, has indi­ brought this disease to Assam Valley and cated the possibility for arranging a training this has now spread over the entire State course in Bangkok or India for the Indian right from Dubri to Sadya including Barak Fishery Officials under a special programme. Valley. This dreaded disease inflicted the Under this course they shall be educated on entire fish population and vegetable plants the symptoms, diagnosis, treatment and in Assam. As a result of this, what we find is remedial measures to be adopted for con­ that the whole fish population were dis­ taining the spread of this disease. mayed and were floating round not quite dead but nearly dead because of this dis­ Government of Assam have asked for a ease. Sir, as you know a majority of people Central assistance of Rs. 3 crore to control in Assam eat fish and as a result of this dis­ the disease and to help the people in the ease, people have been affected and it is affected areas. The Centre is shortly reported that some people have died. In deputing a Technical Team under the lead­ my constituency in Nowgong district, it is ership of Joint Commissioner (Fy) for mak­ reported that 12 people had died and sev­ ing an assessment of the situation in Assam eral people are suffering from this disease and make recommendations. This Team and they have been hospitalised. Not only shall comprise of other experts too. that Even the eggs and chickens have been affected by this disease and hundreds and The Government are fully aware of the hundreds of wild birds, saucers, ducks, hafdships faced by the fishermen and the cranes etc. had died because of consump- 391 CatI Attention re: Polution DECEMBER 1,1988 of Brahmaputra River 392

(Shri M. R. Saikia] quested the Indian Covemment not for Rs. 3 crores, but for Rs. 14 crores. Sir, in this tion of affected fish. It is evident that these respect I can quote some things because are floating in the 'j heels' and fishery ponds. this problem has got another aspect. You As a result of this, what happened in Assam know, fisheries is one of the major sources is that it has created a clash in the State be­ of revenue to the Covemment. Crores and tween the fishermen whose main occupa­ crores of rupees from this source go to the tion is fishing and the State Government. revenue of the State, but the Covemment of The fishermen are on the verge of starva­ Assam this year is going to lose this source tion. They have been thrown out of em­ of income to the tune of not less than Rs. 20 ployment because the Covemment of As­ crores to Rs. 30 crores. Apart from that, the sam has banned the sale offish in the State. State Government have to face the flood Nearly 10 lakhs of people have been affected people and also spend for repair thrown out of employment. This figure ex­ works of the damaged properties such as ists only in respect of Scheduled Castes houses, roads, buildings, culverts etc. community. Besides the Scheduled Castes Therefore, it is not possible on the part of community, there are Scheduled Tribes the State Government to bear this burden. which constitute more than one lakh of So, I on behalf of the people of Assam and people, who live on this particular profes­ on behalf of the State Government appeal sion, and they will also be thrown out of to the Indian Government's request so that jobs. Besides this, there are some non- these wretched people can be rescued from Scheduled Castes people who are also en­ this crisis. gaged in fishing, they will also be thrown out of employment Not only this. The SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI (Kaliabor): traders who take up this occupation as the Sir, this disease is a strange disease in fish only means of livelihood, have also lost their rising in an epidemic form in Assam and in source of income. Therefore, what we find the North-East region since April-May 1988. at present is that lakhs and lakhs of people This is a viral type of disease and this pecu­ have been suffering for want of means of liar type of disease has first taken place in livelihood. The Covemment of Assam in Bangladesh and now slowly it is spreading, the meantime, have taken some measures over to the North-Eastern region and it was to provide relief and rehabilitation of the first detected in the month of April-May in affected people and also to control the dis­ Dhubri, in the Cachar District in Assam. In ease. It is not onty the waters of the mighty this matter, the State Government is taking Brahmaputra river which it polluted, but it all possible steps to protect and rehabilitate polluted the waters of the banks, ponds, the affected fishermen numbering about and other things. Everywhere you will find 1.11 lakhs and the fish. But it appears from that this disease is spreading and the Cov­ the entire statement of the hon. Minister emment of Assam, from the Revenue De­ that we have. done nothing and he has partment, spent more than Rs. 2 crores, but shifted the burden to the State Government the resources available to the State Cov­ as if, they have got no responsibility in the emment are not sufficient to meet this situa­ Ministry. The State Government has prayed tion. Therefore, the Covemment of Assam for Rs. 14.40 crores. In the Statement, you has submitted a report requesting the In­ will find that as if the.State Government has dian Covemment for extending the helping asked only Rs. 3 crores. This is misleading hand to the tune of Rs. 14 crores to enable and I would like the Minister to place on this Covemment to give relief to the af­ record, the letters of the Government ot fected people and to rehabilitate them and Assam. to control the disease. * Secondly, it has ben stated that the Cen­ The Minister in his statement stated that tre is ’shortly" deputing a technical team. he received a request for Rs. 3 crores. It is This disease has started in the month of not true. In fact, the State Covemment re­ April and his Ministry is sleeping over the 393 Call Attention re: Polution AGRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SA/C4) of Brahmaputra River 394 matter. They do not know anything at all. ject that has already been discussed by They say, "Shortly, a team is visiting”. It is some of my hon. colleagues. I would like to not specific, it is just like the operation may state that it would not be out of place if I be successful later on but the patient has al­ say that pollution of rivers has become a na­ ready died. I am not satisfied with the tional phenomenon in this country. It is statement given by the Minister concerned. most unfortunate that one of the mightiest and the largest rivers in this country, apart Sir, about one lakh hectares of natural from causing a great deal of distress and fisheries and about 8,000 hectares of private damage to the people who live in that re­ tank fisheries have been affected. This dis­ gion has now been polluted with a peculiar ease is rapidly spreading over to plants and disease and the result is a great deal of fish animals. In my district, Golaghat, 3 people have been dying and moreover, the veg­ have died after consuming fish. In Now- etable and other crops growing in that re­ gong, 12 people have died; in Cachar 6 gion are also badly affected. It is essential people have died. And the Indian Govern­ that adequate measures necessary for moni­ ment is jut enjoying the distress being faced toring by Pollution Control Board are im­ by the people of Assam. We have all along mediately taken. The Prime Minister and been swallowed by these natural calamities the Government of India have shown a like floods, drought and this peculiar type of great deal of concern for controlling the disease. I want that effective steps should growing menace of pollution but, unfortu­ be taken immediately to protect the affected nately not only Brahmaputra but many other people, particularly curative and preventive rivers have become highly polluted. The steps should be taken. Steps for the reha­ hon. Minister has not informed us in his bilitation of these affected fishermen should statement as to what has been the reason also be taken as those who are living on that has caused this unfortunate disease in fishing and marketing are dying for want of the river. food and shelter. But you are not con­ cerned about their lives. School going chil­ I would also like to know if State Pollu­ dren have stopped going to school for want tion Control Board has been set up in As­ of food. They are all suffering. They have sam and, if so, when the Assam State Pollu­ nothing to eat practically. I am not able to tion Control Board came to know that the understand what steps are being taken by river Brahmaputra was being polluted. the Government of India. It appears from the statement of the Minister that he is not The hon. Minister has said that it is only at all interested and the statement itself is during the month of April or May that he very much misleading. has learnt about it. What action the State and the Central Government purpose to So far as the prayer for grant of funds take against any agencies or organisations and for sending a technical team is con­ or industries or against the agriculturists cerned it should be done immediately. The who use pesticides which might be one of incident had taken place right from the the causes for the pollution of the river? month of April/May but till today they have not sent any team to study the situation. I I would like to know whether the Cen­ fervently request through you that the Gov­ tral Government has considered giving as­ ernment of India should come forward to sistance as requested by the State Govern­ save those who are depending on fish ment of Assam. catching and marketing. They should im­ mediately allot some funds and send a No doubt, the hon. Minister has sug­ technical team to study the situation and gested certain steps that he proposes to protect them. take to try to identify the diseases in the ar­ SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA NARASI- eas affected but, I would like to know what MHARAJA WADIYAR (Mysore): Mr. measures are likely to be taken by the Min­ Deputy Speaker, I rise the speak on a sub­ istry to eradicate this problem by the Cen 395 Call Attention re: Polution DECEMBER 1,1986 of Brahmaputra River 3%

[Sh ri Srikanta Datta Narasimharaja Wadiar] Shri Tanti have told that a large percentage of scheduled caste population covering about millions have become totally out of tral Covemment with the help of the State jobs because the Covemment of Assam has Covemment. At this stage, proper remedial totally prevented purchase and sale offish. measures should be taken to eradicate this menace. Mere preventive measures of the 12.31 hrs. disease will not help. This menace is likely to cause a great deal of harm to the people. [SHRI SOMNATH RATH I would also like to know from the Hon. in the Chair] Minister as to how many people have been affected-/ in the sense not by the disease-^by I am told that in Bangladesh, the Insti­ consuming fish and vegetables etc. What is tutes at Mainansing and Faridapur made the damage that this disease has caused on certain investigations regarding this disease. the flora and fauna of that particular region? In Australia, when the disease first occurred, I would also like to know whether the hon. they must have made certain investigations Minister is likely to take steps to rehabilitate as also in this South-West Asian region. I all those people who have been affected in would like to know from the hon. Minister this region. whether the Union Ministry has made any communication with the Australian Cov­ SHRI DINESH COSWAMI (Guwahati): emment, the Covemment of Bangladesh Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, this disease first and also Thailand Govt, to know from these occurred in Australia, as some reports go, Governments as to how this disease has and spread to South-West Asia and then to been tackled there; whether this disease is Bangladesh and after that it spread to caused by any virus and if so whether the Cachar and Barak valley, from which my virus is detected and if not how this disease friend Shri Sontosh Mohan Dev comes, then has been contained. The hon. Minister has to Brahmaputra Valley and I am told, sub­ stated that the Union Govt, has asked the ject to correction, that it is now spreading States to take measures which are: (i) The even to West Bengal. (Interruptions). Sir, water inlet of the pond should be closed; this disease is called Ulcerative Disease (ii) water from agricultural areas coming into Syndrome. The word 'Syndrome' indicates the ponds should be prevented and (iii) line that the virus has not been detected and at 60-100 kg per 0.16 ha. be applied 3-4 only symptomatic prevention have been times after every three weeks over the wa­ possible. Whatever measures can be taken ter surface. I would like to state that these is only preventive measures. preventive measures can be applied only in case this disease affects a particular pond or Sir, what has happened in Assam? This one or two small places. But in a situation disease, is such that the flesh and skin of where the State has been totally submerged the fish melts away. What remains are only by flood, how can you prevent water com­ the bones. Ultimately, the fish dies. ing from one area to another area? You (Interruptions). The ponds are being cov­ cannot prevent birds from taking either the ered by dead fish; the rivers are being cov­ fish or the polluted water. There has been ered by dead fish and the water has become tremendous rains in Assam during the last polluted. The result has been that birds like few days. When rain water comes and cranes and ducks which consume this pol­ when this disease is affecting virtually the luted water are dying. The other effect has entire State, the preventive measure sug­ been, even the agricultural crops, according gested by the hon. Minister becomes to our information, are being affected and meaningless. In that context, I would like people are being apprehensive of taking to know - in fact, I do not know whether it even agricultural crops. This has caused has come to the knowledge of the Hon. tremendous difficulties. Afterall, in the East­ Minister - I wrote myself and pointed out ern Region of India, fish is one of the main number of cases that because of the Indus- items of consumption. Shri Saikia and also trial pollution and dumping of wastage from 397 Call Attention re: Polution ACRAHAYANA 10,1910(&4M) of Brahmaputra River 398 some of the industrial undertakings which bering about a million and the Scheduled are public sector undertakings like the Pa­ Tribes population have been affected. And per Mills at Naogaon, the agricultural crops the Parliament has the responsibility for this and fishes were affected. Therefore, I down-trodden people. It is not possible for would like to know from the Hon. Minister the States to tackle the situation after the firstly, whether he has made any communi­ ravages of the floods, which the House al­ cation with the Australian Government, the ready knows, the State Exchequer has no Thailand Government and also the fund. Therefore, for rehabilitation of these Bangladesh Government to find out what is people, for some relief measures - as like their experience about this disease; and this period, total ban over the purchase and whether there are any preventive measures, sale of fish is not lifted - some adequate as­ curative measures and if not, why the Gov­ sistance must come to these down-trodden ernment has delayed so long. I would like population, the Scheduled Castes and the to know also that he has said that there is a Scheduled Tribes population for whose training course. It is no use having a train­ benefit the Union Government speaks ev­ ing course after a few months. If the dis­ eryday. It is not that the homilies should be ease has started, the training course ought issued. Some concrete measures should be to have been covered by now. Even now, taken. Therefore, I would ask what is the you are talking in terms of training course. response of this Government to the request This means that’there is a casual and callous of the Assam Government for Rs. 14 crores. attitude to the whole thing. Now, the Hon. I would plead with the Government to im­ Minister says that the Central Team would mediately sanction Rs. 14 crores in consulta­ be going. It is rather surprising. What I tion with the Finance Ministry. Rs. 14 would have expected from the Hon. Minis­ crores is a very very small amount. The dif­ ter is that the Central Team has gone. And I ficulty with the Assam Government is that would plead with the Hon. Minister be­ the Government of Assam is not accus­ cause I do not want to make it a party issue tomed to demand large sums. It is not ac­ because after all people are suffering • customed to the culture of demanding kindly send the Central Team tomorrow larger amounts which some of the State with the experts. Let them conduct it. You Governments are in the habit of demanding. have to inform the Government. Rs. 14 crores is a very very small amount for the Central Government which can be sanc­ Then he has said that the remedial mea­ tioned within five minutes. Therefore, I sures for containing the spread of the dis­ would plead with the Hon. Minister Mr. ease has been taken. What are the remedial Bhajan Lai to announce the sanction of Rs. measures that the Central Government has 14 crores. taken? He has not spelt out that. So far my information goes, no remedial measures Therefore, my few specific questions will have been taken by the Central Govern­ be, whether you have communicated with ment up till now. Therefore, I would like to the other Governments and what is the re­ know what remedial measures have been sult. Well, in spite of the delay, kindly be in taken and what remedial measures they communication with these Governments want to take. immediately and try to leam from their ex­ perience. The training course should be I will pleady with the Government that started immediately. The Central Team Assam Government has asked for Rs. 14 should be deputed to Assam tomorrow and crores. He has said that Assam Govern­ immediate steps should be taken. I would ment has asked for three crores of rupees to like to know about the remedial measures. control the disease. It may be for the pur­ Fifthly, at least, this partly sum of Rs. 14 pose of controlling the disease, for taking crores which has been asked by the State steps which the Minister has suggested, Government should be sanctioned immedi­ three crores of rupees have been asked for. ately and that statement should coVne forth But the Scheduled Castes population num­ from the Hon. Minister. W Cali Attention re: Polution DECEMBER 1,1980 of Brahmaputra River 400

[Translation] MR. CHAIRMAN: Remarks of the Mem­ bers, whose names are not there, will not THE MINISTER OF ACRICULTURE (SHRI go in the proceedings. BHAIAN LAL): Mr. Chairman, Sir, the hon. Members have drawn the attention of the [Translation] house and through it the attention of the Government to'the peculiar disease afflict- SHRI BHAJAN LAL* If floods occur, water log fishes through a Calling Attention Mo­ will naturally overflow. (Interruptions). Will tion. you kindly listen? It is on account of the floods that Bangladesh was affected by this Whenever there is an out break of dis­ disease and consequently it spread to As­ ease, not only the hon. Members are con­ sam, Tripura and Meghalaya as well. How­ cerned about it but the Government is also ever, the spread of this disease has been similarly concerned. Shri Saikia while initi­ contained in Tripura and Meghalaya, but in ating the Calling Attention referred to the Assam it has not been completely controlled floods in Assam. .This disease afflicting the so far. As regards your allegation that As­ fish population is a consequence of floods. sam Government has requested for Rs. 14 But the floods and this disease are two dif­ crores assistance from the centre, I would ferent matters. The nature of assistance are like you to kindly inform us about the num­ separate. The floods as you are aware is a ber of that letter if you are in a position to natural calamity. Floods, fire accidents, do so, otherwise I will inform you about the earthquakes occur suddenly and therefore, date of the letter and the amount de­ we have to make separate provision for it. manded. The letter is dated 14-11-88, However, so far as the floods are con­ which means that the letter reached us only cerned, Shri Goswami has also stated that 16 or 17 days back and the number is V.F.F. the Centre has provided full assistance to - 197/88/13. The Government of Assam the Government of Assam in this regard. has demanded Rs. 3 crores through this let­ Shri Shyam Lai Yadav, my colleague, was ter and I have stated the number of that let­ first to visit the flood ravaged areas and ter. then myself and the Hon. Prime Minister's visited the area and sanctioned Rs. 85 [English] crores for flood relief. We have made ef­ forts to assist Assam Government in every SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: I will give the possible way. Hon. Minister a copy of the letter. We have verified this with the State Government. As regards this disease, it has not origi­ nate in our country but has come from out­ (Interruptions) side and particularly from Bangladesh. You may be aware that river Brahmaputra enters MR. CHAIRMAN: If the hon. Member is India through Bangladesh and this disease in a position to give information, let him spread as a result of devastating floods in pass it on to the Minister. that area. In order to check it... (Interruptions)** [Translation]

[English] SHRI BHAJAN LAL The file is lying with me and I am stating the facts. You have MR. CHAIRMAN: Your name is not mentioned that Rs. 14 crores have been there, you are not allowed. It does not go demanded and that is why I had to en­ on record. lighten you. The Central Government has issued directions to the State Governments (Interruptions)** to take remedial measures in this regard

** Not recorded. 401 Call Attention re: Polution ACRAHAYANA 10,1910(SAM) of Brahmaputra River 402 consequent upon the receipt, the reports of It has been mentioned that some people investigations carried out by the specialists died after consuming diseased fish. Mr. of the Central Institute of Fresh Water Chairman, Sir, Assam Government has not Aquaculture and Fisheries and the assess­ informed us about a single such case so far ment of a technical team which had been If you talk without any substance, it will not deputed there. One of these directions is do, I want to know whether the State Gov­ that water inlet of the pond should be ernment has ever written to us in this re­ closed, when neighbouring river water gard and If so, what is the nature of that in­ show signs of disease. Another step is ap­ formation? We have not received any in­ plication of lime and salt for checking the formation from the Government of Assam spread of this disease. Other remedial so far, and therefore, these allegations are measures can be taken up and the Central baseless. So far as the rehabilitation of the Covemment is fully concerned about it al­ fishermen is concerned, as I have already though you are aware that this matter is un­ stated the State Government should provide der the jurisdiction of the State Government assistance in this matter. We have some and it is the responsibility of the State to schemes for providing employment and take immediate action for controlling the housing facilities to them. Houses should spread of such diseases. It is not justified be built for them under this scheme. The on the part of the State Government to take Central Government will make every possi­ no action and pass the entire responsibility ble effort for the poor. to the Central Government. The Central Government cannot be blamed at all be­ Another matter raised is that of pollution. cause it has made ail out efforts in this re­ In this connection, I can only state that the gard. State Pollution Boards should look into this matter. If there is an outbreak of any dis­ Besides, it is a fact that this disease af­ ease due to pollution the State Government fected Australia, Netherlands and Bangkok, are responsible for it. It is also the State as has also been pointed out by Shri Government's duty to check pollution in the Coswami. Netherlands and Bangkok were State as a result of industrial growth or any the last to be affected and we have negoti­ other reason. ated with Bangkok in this matter and a training course is also going to be arranged. [English] We have informed the State Government in this regard and the officers concerned have SHRI DINESH COSWAMI: It is a Central been directed to make an on the spot study Government undertaking. of the situation and find out remedial mea­ sures for the complete control of this dis­ ease. Mr. Chairman, so far as the question [Translation] of the fishermen being thrown out of em­ ployment and their rehabilitation are con­ SHRI BHAJAN LAL: The State Govern­ cerned, this is also the task of the State ments have full authority in this matter. The Government. Marginal money is available Centre intervenes only when the States fail with the States for meeting such exigencies to tackle a problem. But when the Centre and they can utilise this amount and claim it does so, it is alleged that the Centre is in­ thereafter from the centre and the latter will terfering in matters of the States. definitely give as per norms, because there are certain subjects for which the State Governments alone are responsible. Simi­ [English] larly, the losses suffered by the traders has been mentioned. There can be no two SHRI DINESH COSWAMI: The State opinions on the point that out break of any Government has taken it up with the Cen­ disease creates difficulties for the Govern­ tral Government and it is the Central Gov­ ment. ernment Undertaking which is doing it. 403 Call Attention re: Polution DECEMBER T, T988 o f Brahmaputra River 404

[Translation] the lone case. Central Government Under- takings in a number of States are doing SHRI BHAJAN LAL: Shri Coswami, you pollution. We take the cue from you and may be aware that there are State Pollution will stop it from functioning. Boards in every State to look into the pollu­ tion problems within the State. It has the [Translation] full authority to identify these industries which are causing pollution and file cases SHRI BHAJAN LAL In the Union Territo­ against those who violate the relevant laws ries, it is the responsibility of the Central regarding pollution. Government and in the States, it is the re­ sponsibility of the State Governments. It is [English] only when the State Governments fail to SHRI DINESH COSWAMI: It is a Central take any action that the Centre can inter- Government Undertaking. vene to offer directions, otherwise this mat­ ter falls under the jurisdiction of the State Governments... (Interruptions)0* [Translation] SHRI BHAJAN LAL: After all, the State [English] Government has to do it. MR. CHAIRMAN: No interruptions are [English] allowed.

SHRI DINESH COSWAMI: The pollution [Translation] is being done by a Central Covernment Un­ dertaking. SHRI BHAJAN LAL: As regards import of foreign technology, the Union Government [Translation] has negotiated with Thailand and has also requested Bangladesh Government through SHRI BHAJAN LAL: How does the ques­ its High Commission to look into this tion of an undertaking arise here? The State problem. We have also written to F.A.O. Pollution Boards are under the State Gov­ ernments and the National Board is under [English] the Central Government... (Interruptions) MR. CHAIRMAN: Please do not reply to [English] Members whose names dO not figure in the list. SHRI DINESH COSWAMI: Central Gov­ ernment Undertaking is doing the pollution. [Translation] If this is your case, then we will stop the undertaking from functioning from tomor­ SHRI BHAJAN LAL: Talks are going on row. with Thailand and all out efforts are being [Translation] made for controlling this disease. The Gov­ ernment of India will make every effort to SHRI BHAJAN LAL: The State Govern­ prevent this disease in future. The Gov­ ment has full authority to issue a notice for ernment will provide all possible help in this its closure and file a case against it in the regard. We are sending a team there very court. soon.

[English] SHRI DINESH COSWAMI: Send it to­ SHRI DINESH COSWAMI: This is not morrow.

•• Not recorded. 405 0.O.H. AGRAHAYANA10,1910(SA/C4) B.O.H. 406

SHRI BHAjAN LAL We will try to send That for the original motion, following be the team within ten days, the Government substituted - of India will give maximum assistance. Ac­ cording to rules, the team is sent only when "The report be referred back to the a memorandum is received from the State Committee to provide time for discussion Government but they have not sent any on judicial reforms in the country.” memorandum so far. They do nothing their own end and only find fault with Gov­ Sir, I do agree that the hon. Parliamen­ ernment of India. They should have sent a tary Affairs Minister has brought before us memorandum with details of loss incurred very important issues. For the past three and requested the Centre to send a team. sessions, we have been insisting that we Then of course, if the team had not gone must discuss the burning issue that we there, they could have critisised the Centre. should have judicial reforms in the country. But they have not sent any memorandum so These are important issues. But much more far. Even then, we are sending a team, important is judicial reforms. Therefore, I which will examine and report about the have suggested to the hon. Minister that he loss suffered and we will try to give maxi­ can go back to the Committee so that be­ mum help to the Government of Assam as fore this session closes, we discuss judicial far as possible according to our norms. reforms. Why do I want a discussion on judicial [English] reforms? Only three days ago, the law Commission's report has been placed in the SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: Sir, I only Rajya Sabha. We must have copies of that. want to point out that I will present before Now we have no report before us. But him the letters by which the Government of whatever reports have appeared in the Assam has asked for Rs. 14 crores. Press, I feel one with the recommendations (interruptions) of the Law Commission. It wants the Supreme Court to be split into the appellate court and the constitutional court and the appellate court will have branches all over 12.51 hrs. India. (Interruptions)

BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE Over 1,30,000 cases are pending before the Supreme Court. People of India want Sixty Third Report justice. Recently, in a particular important magazine, there was an article by Sheila [English] Bharse of Bombay: One lakh children are behind the bars in various parts of the coun­ THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AF­ try. (Interruptions) Therefore, I feel that ju­ FAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMATION dicial reforms should have precedence over AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H. K. L BHA- the items that have been presented to us. I GAT): Sir, I beg to move: approach the hon. Minister through you that it should go back to the Committee so "That this House do agree with the Sixty- that we get as first item: judicial reforms in third Report of the Business Advisory Com­ the country. (Interruptions) mittee presented to the House on the 30th November, 1988.” SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY (Kumool): Actu­ ally, we have given call attention motion for MR. CHAIRMAN: Prof. Soz, please move taking into consideration the 125th report your amendment. of the Law Commission regarding the reor­ ganisation of the Supreme Court. It has PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Baramulla): I come very prominently in the Press yester­ beg to move: day. Therefore, we appeal to the Minister 407 B.O.H. DECEMBER 1 ,198S Matters Under Rule 377 408

[Shri E. Ayyapu Reddy] Law Minister and th<* Business Advisory Committee. Therefore, I request you to for Parliamentary Affairs to see that this im­ withdraw your amendment. portant topic is discussed. Otherwise, the PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: In view of the people will think that the Parliament does assurance, I seek leave for the House to not think over very important matters espe­ withdraw my amendment. cially pertaining to the Judiciary. The hon. Minister must also remember that in 1985, The amendment was, by leave, withdrawn in the first Presidential Address to the Eighth Lok Sabha, judicial reforms were promised. MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is: We have not discussed it so far. Therefore, I request and I appeal to the hon. Minister That this House do agree with the for Parliamentary Affairs to see that this re­ Sixty-third Report of the Business port is taken up for consideration tomor­ Advisory Committee presented to row. the House on the 30th November, 1988." (Interruptions)** The motion was adopted. MR. CHAIRMAN: You have not given any notice of amendment. This would not form part of the record. You should have given a notice. As an hon. Member, you 12.58 hrs. must know the rules. MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 SHRI H. K. L. BHACAT: I shall bring the hon. Member's viewpoints about the judi­ [Translation] cial reforms to the notice of the Law Minis­ ter and the Business Advisory Committee. (i) Need for techno-economic sur­ Government itself has been keen on judicial vey of the hilly regions of Uttar reforms and a number of statements have Pradesh for their proper devel­ been made in the House also. All the same, opment as I said, I shall bring it to the notice of the Law Minister and the Business Advisory SHRI HARISH RAWAT (Almora): The Committee. However, there is no question Central Government help the State Gov­ of the report going back to the Business Ad­ ernment under a special plan to remove visory Committee. backwardness of hilly regions of Uttar Pradesh and provide economic and social (Interruptions)** amenities. But unfortunately, even after im­ plementation of this special plan, these re­ MR. CHAIRMAN: It would not go on gions still remain for behind in the field of record. You have not given any notice as socio-economic development as compared per rules. Hon. Members are expected to to other regions of the State itself as well as know the rules. other States of the country. Alround devel­ opment of these regions is not taking place PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Baramulla): I due to the lack of special infrastructural fa­ want an assurance from the hon. Minister cilities in these regions to implement the that before the session closes, we shall dis­ plan fully and also due to the criteria for the cuss the question of judicial reforms, even if allotment of funds. So I request the Plan­ the House has to be extended. ning Commission that:

SHRI H. K. L. BHACAT: As I said, I shall (1) A techno-economic survey of these bring your viewpoint to the notice of the regions should be conducted.

** Not recorded. 409 Matters Under Rule 377 ACRAHAYANA1 0 ,191

(2) A separate planning commission the last eleven months. This has resulted in should be constituted ir. the State complete paralysation of primary and first for these areas. aid treatment to the people of rural areas, where the Government-aided medical cen­ (3) An elected council should be con­ tres and dispensaries are very remote. This stituted on "he lines of Gorkha is helping in the spread of various diseases Development Council for the im­ including contagious and viral diseases. The plementation of the plan. State Government is expressing its inability to come to the rescue of these people with­ (4) All the administrative powers, at out getting the monetary allotment for this present being exercised by the purpose from the Union Government. State Government should be vested in the council and separate I would, therefore, request the hon. cadres should be made for the Minister for Health and Family Welfare to Government services. come to the rescue of the people of Orissa and release the Central aid immediately. (5) Rs. 100 crores more should be provided to the State to imple­ [Translation] ment the provisions of the existing plan. (iii) Need to provide passenger or shuttle trains in Gujarat (6) A provision should be made to Saurashtra region provide special funds for meeting the needs of these regions by set­ SHRI RANJIT SINGH GAEKWAD ting up separate cells in the Cen­ (Baroda): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I raise an ur­ tral Ministries for this purpose. gent matter of public importance under rule 377. [English) All the trains running in Gujarat, Saurash­ (ii) Need to provide Central aid for tra and adjacent areas have been made fast, the Village Health Guides in the mail or express trains. Besides, some new State of Orissa fast trains have also been introduced. Ow­ ing to the conversions of all the passenger SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA (Balasore): To trains as Bhopal passenger train etc. into render first-aid and to cure small diseases of fast trains the poor farmers, labourers, the rural people, Village Health Guides masses and particularly those people, who were appointed for every two thousand ru­ work in other villages or suburb are facing ral population on paying Rs. 50 as remuner­ great difficulty. They are deprived of only ation per month and medicines costing Rs. means of available transport, because fast 50. This programme covered the entire trains do not stop at small stations. country. As the prices of medicines in­ creased, medicines costing Rs. 150 were I request the hon. Minister of Railways provided to these VHGs, per month for dis­ that either the passenger trains converted tribution among the patients. But the pay­ into fast trains should halt at small stations ment of remuneration and also availability of or local trains and shuttle trains should be medicines has been irregular for about five introduced there. Poor, farmers, labourers years. and working people should not be pe­ nalised just to provide the facility to some The situation has gone from bad to people. There has been resentment in worse in the State of Orissa. More than many places due to this. Steps should be 4000 VHGs of the State have not received taken to remove their difficulties. Besides, their remunerations for the last 23 months fast trains, local trains should also be intro­ and no medicines have been* supplied for duced to provide facility to the local people. 411 Matters Under Rule 377 DECEMBER 1,1988 Matters Under Rule 377 412

[English] studies. Most of the Harijan and Adivasi families cannot afford the expenditure for (iv) Need to ensure payment of providing higher education to their wards minimum wages to agricultural and thus their desire to continue studies is labour not fulfilled.

SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN SINHA So, I request the Central Government to (Aurangabad): Despite there being legisla­ increase the amount of scholarship for the tion enforcing minimum wages in agricul­ Harijan/Adivasi students so that students ture, there are regular complaints that these depending on scholarships only could com­ minimum wages are not being paid in many plete their studies and serve the country as areas. The Union Government has overall an educated citizen. responsibility to ensure that minimum wages are revised periodically and applied. The State Labour Ministers also meet regu­ [English] larly under the Central Government's aegis to review the implementation of minimum (vi) Need to give recognition to poet wages legislation. However, it seems that 1 Vemana by issuing a postal no thought has been given as to why the stamp, opening a faculty and decision to pay minimum wages remains publishing authoritative transla­ unimplemented despite all these precau­ tion of his works tions. Apart from the attitude of some land­ holders, it must also be considered whether SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY (Kumool): agricultural operations in all places are prof­ Vemana was a renowned poet, rationalist, itable enough to help even those landhold­ social reformer and a Saint, from Ray- ers who want to abide by the law, to pay alaseema region in Andhra Pradesh. His the minimum wages. There should be ade­ poetry consisted essentially of scientific and quate interaction between the Agriculture rational solutions to social problems and Ministry and the Labour Ministry on this is­ reforms. His poetry in the purest and sim­ sue so that agricultural operations are made plest form is most popular among the peo­ profitable enough for better wages to be ple. He opposed religious fanaticism, ex­ paid to the workers, many of whom are un­ pose hypocrisy, social oppression of the organised. poor and downtrodden and taught the path of non violence and truth. He enriched the [Translation] basic humanist outlook of Hindu philoso­ phy. His works were translated in the be­ (v) Need to increase the amount of ginning of 19th century in English by Mr. scholarship for Harijan/Adivasi Bxoan who was enchanted by the great students depth of thought expressed in simple lan­ guage. His verses have also been translated SHRI MANKURAM SODI (Bastar): Mr. into other languages. But yet there has Deputy Speaker, Sir, I raise the following been no national recognition of this great matter under Rule 377. poet Vemana Today, the prices are rising rapidly in the country. It has affected education also which cannot be ignored. The Government I, therefore, appeal to the Union Gov­ has made arrangement for hostels for the ernment to take steps for due recognition of Harijan/Adivasi students getting scholar­ Vemana greatness by issuing a postal ship. This price-rise has directly affected the stamp md instituting Vemana faculty in scholarships given to the Harijan/Adivasi the Indira Gandhi Open University and also students. The amount fixed does not even by publishing authoritative translations of meet their one month expenditure. Due to his works in all India languages essentially this, many intelligent students drop their in Hindi. 413 Matters Under Rule 377 ACRAHAYANA1 0 ,1910(5A/G4) Matters Under Rule 377 414

(vii) Need to adhere to the three lan­ has hit wide areas of West Bengal particu­ guage formula larly in South 24 pat$anas and Midrtapur districts. After the Meteorological Office SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN was set up in 1867 in Calcutta there was (Kishanganj): The ah /idonment of the Re­ never any cyclone of this magnitude vised Three Language formula, 1961, by the recorded. educational authorities and its substitution by the CBSE by another formula of its own The preliminary estimates show that making strikes a fatal blow at the right of more than 80 people died, 2 million people linguistic minorities. Universal adoption of are affected, more than 1 lakh mud houses Hindi and English as First and Second com­ have collapsed and standing and ripe paddy pulsory languages in Hindi speaking states crop has been damaged upto 60% in certain relegates the mother tongue of the linguistic places, and more or less heavily in most minorities to the status of third language places. Vegetables and potato growing is when the mother tongue has to compete also seriously affected. with other modem Indian languages. The schools are, moreover, not required to make necessary arrangements for the The West Bengal Finance Minister has teaching of the mother tongue of the mi­ appealed for Rs. 25 crore as relief immedi­ nority students. Similarly, in non-Hindi ately and has communicated with the Minis­ States, the formula has been reduced to ter of Finance to that effect. I urge for ur­ Hindi, the regional language and English, gent steps for despatching money and other leaving no scope at all for the teaching of materials by the Central Covemment. the mother tongue of the linguistic minori­ ties, other than those whose mother tongue [Translation] is Hindi or English. (ix) Need to declare Dr. Hari Singh This formula is unscientific, discrimina­ Gaur University, Sagar as a Cen­ tory and unconstitutional because it ignores tral University the right of a child to leam bis mother tongue. Also the formula is a distortion of SHRI NAN DIAL CHOUDHARY (Sagar): and a basic deviation from the original three Mr. Chairman, Sir, there is a first and very language formula of 1955 as revised in old university in Sagar, in Madhya Pradesh, 1961, which gave the mother tongue the which was named after its founder Dr. Hari status of First language and thus treated all Singh Caur, the great intellectual and gen­ languages and all linguistic communities erous person. The university has not equally. reached the heights of anticipated devel­ opment so far to turn the dreams of Dr. The Covemment must immediately cor­ Hari Singh Gaur into reality. rect the distortion, reinstate mother tongue as the first language, make Hindi or Re­ All the students, their guardians, intellec­ gional language compulsory for linguistic tuals and citizens are demanding that this minorities as Second language and provide university should be given the status of a for English or any other M.I.L as third lan­ central university and they are making guage. preparations to start on agitation because of delay caused in meeting their demand. (viii) Need lor immediate financial and other assistance to West Bengal So, it is necessary to give this university affected by the recent cyclone the status of a central university and it is alsQ necessary to open the institutes of SHRIMATI CEETA MUKHERJEE Pharmacy and Ayurved in this university. (Panskura): The unprecedented cyclone in The Government should respect the feelings recent memory on 29th and 30th November of the people. 4VS Banking, Public Finan. DECEMBER 1,1988 Neg. Instruments Laws 4 16 Institution 0 (Amdt) Bill [English] This is a very important Bill, because if is not only amending the banking laws, but (x) Conversion of Bandel-Katwa Sec­ also the Negotiable Instruments Act. I tion of Eastern railway into dou­ would have liked a separate bill for amend­ ble line and its electrification ing the Negotiable Instruments Act instead of clubbing it with the Banking and Financial SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY Institutions (Amendment) Bill. One thing (Katwa): Sir, people of all walks of life and common in all of these twelve amendments of all political affiliations in the localities to the banking laws is that the Government along Bandel-Katwa Railway line in the wants to fix a uniform tenure to the Direc­ Eastern Railways have organised a deter­ tors of these institutions. The existing pro­ mined movement on the longstanding de­ visions relating to the tenure of Directors, mands of conversion of this line into double the appointment of directors the terms and line and electrification of the route in order conditions and the eligibility of appointment to enhance social mobility and economic etc., are contained in the Nationalised development of the lakhs of people who in­ Banks Management Scheme, 1970 and 1980. After the nationalisation we have habit this area. prepared a scheme under which the Direc­ The perpetual neglect of this line over tors whether they are official directors or the years has become unbearable to the non-official directors, whether they are em­ people and they have come out in the street ployee directors, workmen and non-work- in a peaceful manner to attract the attention men employee directors, all these matters of the authorities. are covered under this scheme. There is also a provision in the Banking Regulation I request the Minister of Railways to im­ Act about the appointment of directors. mediately call the representatives of the or­ And yet today we have different laws. The ganisation leading the movement for a dia­ Directors are appointed under various logue and take effective steps to improve states differently, under different conditions the conditions of Bandel-Katwa Railway line and for different tenures. within a time bound programme. I can understand the anxiety of the Gov­ ernment in this regard. Of course, it is strictly in consonance with the recommen­ 13.15 hrs. dation made by the Estimates Committee, but my point is that for the last four years BANKING, PUBLIC FINANCIAL INSTITU­ these banks are functioning with truncated TIONS AND NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENTS boards. No non-official Directors had been LAWS (AMENDMENT) BILL (Contd.) appointed on these Boards and every time Government came forward with the plea [English] that the regulations are under revision and once these are revised, the non-officials will MR. CHAIRMAN: We now take up fur­ be appointed. ther consideration of the Banking, Public Fi­ nancial Institutions and Negotiable Instru­ So, what is the position of the banks to­ ments Laws (Amendment) Bill. day? The board of every bank is consisting of hardly four or five members consisting of Shri C. Madhav Reddi. officials, the Chairman and the Managing Director, the Executive Director - if there is SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI (Adilabad): one - then the representative of the Gov­ Mr. Chairman, I rise to make a few com­ ernment from the Banking Division and the ments on the Bill amending thirteen Acts Reserve Bank of India. That is all. relating to the banks and other financial in­ stitutions and also the Negotiable Instru­ And what is the position? With these ments Act. truncated boards which bank is regularly 417 Banking, Public Finan. ACRAHAYANA10,1910 ($AKA) Neg. Instruments Laws 418 Institution 4 (Arndt.) Bill holding the meetings of the boards? I find have experience in specialised fields like Ac­ that many of these banks Boards do not countancy, Agriculture, Small Scale Indus­ function. The agenda notes are circulated tries, etc. All these details have been given to the members and they are approved in the scheme itself. The fact is that the without discussion. Covemment never followed thesfc criteria and never tried to appoint these Directors The banking activities during the last four in accordance with rules and kept the banks years have increased as the hon. Minister in the hands of the officials. I have nothing has pointed out yesterday enormously. against these officials. But certainly their vi­ Their activities, their schemes and their sion is limited. You had taken up Social functions have increased. They have taken Banking and so many other schemes. Cer­ up a number of non-banking functions such tainly there was a need for non-official ele­ as leasing activities equipment loans, mutual ment to be associated with the functioning fund schemes and merchant banking activi­ of the bank. But this has not been done ties in addition to many other social banking during the last four years. Now that the Bill activities. is being amended and uniform tenure is being fixed, are you going to appoint the All these activities naturally have in­ non-official Directors atleast now? creased the workload and also the necessity to devote sufficient time and sufficient at­ Sir, I am very happy that the banks these tention to the policies of the Banks. The days are going on initiating a number of role of the bankers has become important. schemes in the field of Social Banking. Re­ During this particular period, which is a cru­ cently four banks have joined together and cial period in the history of the banking, the signed a memorandum of Understanding. Covemment had only truncated boards They are going to have a joint subsidiary, which remained almost non-existent in the which is a new experiment in banking. So sense that they consisted only of officials. far, these banks had been forming sub­ What was the reason? I do not understand sidiary companies for taking up certain spe­ the reason. Finance Minister after Finance cial activities. Now we will have a joint Minister, right from Mr. Vishwanath Pratap subsidiary for four banks for taking up activi­ Singh to Shri Patelji, never considered this ties such as merchant banking. I do not particular aspect of the management of the know whether the Government has been Banks. Why have the non-officials been ex­ consulted before this decision was taken. cluded from the'management of the banks? In any case, non-officials were not there. I Of course, I know even if these decisions do not know whether the Government has are taken these directors are appointed been consulted when such an important purely on political considerations. Even that decision was taken. also has not been done. Perhaps, the gover­ nment is waiting for the elections to come. The hon. Minister pointed out that one Now you are going to appoint these non­ of the important amendments relates to in­ official Directors, Not one, about 300 Direc­ crease the capital base of these banks. The tors for 28 nationalised banks. Every Bank capital base of these banks is to be in­ can have about 15 Directors and out of 15, creased by increasing the point up capital of about 10 Directors will be non-officials. At the Bank from Rs. 100 crores to Rs. 500 this rate, 280 Directors are going to be ap­ crores. pointed. Perhaps they will be appointed just at the time when the elections are near I welcome that. But the point is that so that you may satisfy a number of aspiring when you are going to increase the paid up political people. The criteria fior appointing capital, where is die money coming from? these Directors are already in the Scheme In this year's Budget, we have Rs. 200 itself. It is there already in the scheme as to crores, which was set apart for this purpose how they are to be selected and as to what but already spent. The Government has interest they should represent; they should been subscribing to the paid up capital for 419 Banking, Public Finan. DECEMBER 1,1988 Neg. Instruments Laws 420 Institution 4 (Amdt.) Bill [Shri C. Madhav Reddy] uidity? If it is in the shape of cash with the Reserve Bank, it is O.K. That is CRR, which the last fifteen years. But now you have is 10.5 per cent. But if it is going to the reached a ceiling and beyond that, the Covemment departments because the Covemment cannot subscribe to the paid banks are supposed to purchase the Cov­ up capital anymore, and hence this emment securities it is different. 38 per amendment. The paid up capital is being cent of the deposits which they are going to enhanced from Rs. 100 crores to Rs. 500 get, are going to be utilised for purchasing crores. Where is the money comiog from? Covemment securities. What you are doing Interestingly, the financial Memorandum is you are taking the liquidity from the bank of the Bill says that no money is going to be managers' hands to the bureaucrats' hands, given to the banks. It is only a book ad­ You are not curbing the liquidity. Liquidity is justment. What you are going to do is to there but you are preventing the banks from see that when the banks get the enhanced using this. You are taking away those funds paid up capital, with that capital they pur­ and utilising in the Covemment depart­ chase the special Covemment securities, ment resulting in the increase of non-plan which means no additional funds will flow Covemment expenditure. This is not curb: into the banks. The object of this is to see ing liquidity to see that the inflation is that the profitability of the banks is in­ checked. So, with this high Statutory Liq­ creased. The whole object is to see that the uidity Ratio of 38 per cent, it is difficult foi debt-equity ratio of these banks is enhanced the Indian banks to make profits. What is to the international level. But the point is the position of profitability of the Banks to­ how the profitability is going to be in­ day? The profitability is going down. Toda) creased because you are going to take away the banks' profitability has come down as the money which you have given in the low as 0.17 per cent, which is lowest in the shape of purchasing the securities. This di­ whole world. 0.17 per cent is the prof­ rectly leads us to the question of banks' liq­ itability as percentage of working funds ol uidity. As the hon. Minister has pointed out the banks and they have to operate witf today the deposits of the banks have in­ such a small profit margin. creased to about Rs. 1,17,000 crores, and out of these deposits, if I remember- I do not have the copy of the Minister's state­ Coming to the question of the develop ment of banks, the hon. Minister pointed ment because it has bot been made avail­ out that the bank branches have been ex­ able to us; it is in the supplement because this statement was made by him at the fag panded, various activities have been taken end of the debate yesterday - he said that up by the banks, priority sector lendings etc. have been increased. But what about roughly Rs. 70,000 crores are the advances. the banks' other problems? Have the Gov­ That means there is a difference of about Rs. 50,000 crores. Now, where is this differ­ ernment considered the question of the bad ence going? This is where the SLR and CRR debts, the question of the frauds which are become very relevant. What is this SLR and going on in the banks, the question of the why are you going on increasing this? To­ overdue position? day the SLR is 38 per cent and the CRR is 10.5 per cent I have no dispute with the The overdue position today is so bad that it was estimated in 1987 that the over- CRR, that is, Cash Reserve Ratio, but the point is when you increase the SLR, you are dues were to the extent of Rs. 9700 crores, preventing the banks from investing their which form about 16.8% of the total ad­ own funds as they like. The funds could go vances. And it is still continuing and the to the priority sector, to agriculture, to in­ Covemment of India has not been doing dustries and to any other sector. The idea anything at all. I hear that the Covemment behind what you are going to see that the of India is considering to bring forward a excess liquidity with the banks is checked. new bill called Loan Recovery Bill so that you can prescribe how to recover the dues. How are you going to check the excess liq­ 421 Banking, Public Brian. ACRAHAYANA1 0 ,1910(SA/C4) Neg. Instruments Lam 422 Institution 4 (Arndt.) Bill I do not know what type of Bill is under one year imprisonment and or, the fine consideration because no proposal has which can go up to two times the amount of come before us. But my point is that the the cheque. Suppose the cheque is for one remedies already prescribed by the Gov­ lakh rupees, the fine can be two lakh ru­ ernment of India have not been followed by pees. What is this? The whole idea, the the banks. The. Government is not moni­ whole objective is to see that the accept­ toring it. The Reserve Bank of India said ability of the cheque is increased. You want that there should be a sort of a proper that the cheque should be acceptable if it is monitoring of these loans and particularly issued to a person or to a Department, may big loans given to the big industries. No be in the discharge of certain liability. But proper monitoring is being done. Then the the point is that it is essentially a civil mat­ R.B.I. has also advised to follow a health ter. Here you make it a criminal matter. In code system, that the accounts should be no other country it is a penal offence. I am graded, should be classified according to not aware of any country where this has the health of the eveiy account and opera­ been declared as criminal offence. I will be tion of the accounts are property checked to happy to be told that there is a country see that if a particular account is going sick declaring this as original offence. Unless it immediately action should be taken. But is proved that it has been fully and nothing has been done. intentionally done, it was cheating, oh that ground, of course, it becomes a criminal of fence, but otherwise it is purely a civil matter. In any case you are going to Coming to the question of amendment, a enhance the rate of interest from 6 per cent very important amendment relating to the Negotiable Instruction Act, I am not able to to 18 per cent is being enhanced or^ the understand why you want extra power the amount of the cheque which has been bounced. That should be enough. And I am whole Chapter-16 is being added to the opposed to this amendment to the Negotiable Instrument Act. What is con­ tained in Chapter-16? It says that if a par­ Negotiable Instruments Act. ticular cheque is issued by somebody on his account in discharge of a liability and if the cheque bounces - the cheque is issued to Sir, coming to the question of priority cover a particular liability, — then it becomes lending about which a reference has been a criminal liability. Already in the Nego­ made by the hon. Minister yesterday that tiable Instrument Act, there is a provision the banks have taken up a number of under Section 30 which makes it possible schemes under which the lending activity for the persons, who are holding the has been increased for the priority sector cheques to make him liable and he can be such as agriculture, small scale industries fined and in any case the lawyers know that etc. etc., well; Sir, we all know the position it is a civil matter. After all, what is a of the Regional Rural Banks. Only last year cheque? It is only a Negotiable Instrument we passed an amending Bill and we know and if it is rejected, if it boupces, certainly many of these Banks are sick and they are civil action can bd taken against him. How not in a position to give bans to agricultur­ does it differ from a promisory note? If ac­ ists. Today we have a scheme, what the cording to the promisory note payment is Government calls, a "service area" scheme not made to the party, it does not become and this scheme is supposed W be imple­ the criminal offence. Why do you make it mented from 1st January 1988. Now, under here a criminal offence? It is likely to create the service area scheme, you want to take a lot of problems, a lot of harrasments in up lending to meet all credit needs of those spite of certain safeguards provided in the priority sectors, first you want to assess the chapter. It is likely to create a lot of prob­ total credit requirements, the credit re­ lems by making it penal offence and then quirements of that particular area. Survey punishment is so harsh that it can go up to work is being done, but as far as I know, 423 Banking, Public Finan. DECEMBER1,1988 Neg. instruments Lam 424 Institution 4 (Arndt.) Bill [Shri C Madhav Reddy] have started operating the venture capital fund. It is very good that the Government there is no progress with regard to survey, wants that the Banks also should start the there is no progress with regard to identifi­ venture capital companies and take up the cation of the target groups or identification venture capital scheme. In the last Budget of the areas where credit requirements Session the hon. Finance Minister said that would be worked out; but there is no certain people, particularly the new Indus­ progress at all In this direction. Recently the trialists, are not getting the equity capital Reserve Bank of India has appointed a Spe­ from the market. It is difficult for thtm to cial Committee for each State to go into the raise the capital and something must be aspect and they have found that it is difficult done to see that new companies which are to adhere to the target date of 1.1.1989 by coming should be able to get necessary which time you are planning to start this subscription to the equity capital. For that service area scheme so that you may meet purpose, a venture capital fund has been the credit requirements of the target groups conceived. But why should you not an­ in the country. I am afraid, Sir, this "service nounce such schemes on the floor of the area” scheme is likely to meet the same fate House and explain the salient features of as the other schemes have met. In addition the scheme. I would like to know the total to this, our Agriculture Minister the other details of the scheme which has not been day announced another scheme on the floor placed on the Table of the House. These of the House. Without any preparation, are the comments which I wanted to make. without any spade work, he said that pro­ duce-linked credit will be given to the I am sorry, I have taken more time than farmer. What is that produce-linked credit? what is allotted to us though I wanted to 80 per cent of the requirements of the farm­ stick to the time. ers would be met, 80 per cent of the value of the produce will be given to the farmer as SHRI VIJAY N. PATH (Erandol): Thank a loan and then the produce will be kept you, Mr. Chairman. Madhav Reddiji was with the farmer himself. But has any differing from the provision that has been scheme been worked out on this? How are made regarding the offence being treated as you going to do it? Where are the funds? penal offence in case of bouncing of the These are the matters which have to be cheque. We know, many people have carefully gone into before any new scheme started adopting the practice of issuing is announced. You get a thrill of annonncing cheques without proper balance in their ac­ a new scheme, but in actual implementa­ counts. Even traders cheat the common tion, it loses all its importance, and it loses people. Some of the bank staff also connive all its objectives. with these traders. This is nothing but cheating, falsification of documents and Sir, these are the points which 1 wanted forgery. All these are covered under the In­ to raise, but there are some other issues dian Penal Code. Although section 13 pro­ which I wanted to raise with regard to this vides for punishment, it is very meagre, six Bill because before this Bill is passed, there months. The procedure was cumbersome. are certain things about which the Covem­ Now the procedure is cut short, simplified. ment has to be very clear in its mind. On At the same time, some exceptions are Government's thinking about the venture made for genuine people. I would like to capital scheme, we would like to know urge upon the hon. Finance Minister that if what the Government is thinking about it the agent of the bank or any officer of the The Parliament was meeting here, but a bank is found conniving with these things, scheme has been announced in the press he should also be punished. What happens that a venture capital scheme or venture is, sometimes, some persons, say A issues a capital fund the subsidiary companies are cheque to person B and then it is sent to going to floated. So far, only the IFCI, IDBI outstation bank for credit. For months to­ and ICCI are the only institutions which gether, he does not know whether it is de­ 125 Banking, Public Fman. ACRAHAYANA10,1910(SAM) Neg. Instruments laws 426 Institution 4 (Amdt.) Bill posited in his account or not. That is with­ I welcome the enhancement of interest held by the bankers and after some time, it from 6% to 18% on the non-payment of the is reported that this cheque is bounced be­ negotiable instruments which are not cause the accountee was not having that cleared for payment. The tendency among much amount. the people is increasing to give such kind of negotiable instruments which are not hon­ Mr. Chairman, Sir, now-a-days we find oured by the banks. This is a very good that the banks are increasing commission provision. on drafts, cheques tremendously and be­ cause of this, it becomes difficult to give There is unenabling provision as far as out*station cheques. We are having a policy the NABARD Chairman is concerned. The of promoting banks in the rural areas. I Chairman of the NABARD can act as a Man­ would like to suggest that if the cheque is aging Director for some time when there is drawn on the rural bank or a bank in the ru­ a vacancy or till a new managing Director is ral area or it is drawn from a branch of a appointed. There is a proverb There is al­ bank from the rural area to the city area, the ways room at the top". Here, there is al­ commission should be a little less so that ways room at the top in many banks and we can encourage banks in the rural areas public sector undertakings. Many senior and also encourage the people to open ac­ executive posts are not filled. The Bank of counts in the rural areas. India is operating only with four Directors. Instead of asking the Chairman to act as Mr. Chairman, Madhav Reddiji was refer­ Managing Director, some senior officer can ring to the checking of equity of the banks. act as officiating Managing Director till the In this Amendment Bill, we are empowering new Managing Director is appointed. the Reserve Bank of India to have special audits conducted at any time and appoint­ Also permit me to say that in this country ment of auditors also to conduct audit at where we are thinking of the socialist pat­ any time, of any bank. tern of society, many top officials whether they are from the public sector or from the When there is a provision for having the banks or from other Departments have a uniform tenure of Director of State Bank of tendency to indulge in luxurious spending India, directors from the employees and and there is no control over their spending other people, I would like to refer to other on furnishing etc. There should be some banks also. In the case of other banks, limit, some standard. It is not that because some unions have gone to the court over of the luxuries in the office, people would the question of appointment. I will urge come and take loans. It is the common upon the Covemment to expedite the case people who deposit the money but they so that Directors c^n be appointed from seldom see the Managing Director or the among the f^ployees in those banks where Chairman. People who come for taking the cpviit case is pending. So also, to obvi­ large sums of money do not require that ate the delay in the appointment of officials there should be five-star luxuries in the of­ on the Boartl of Directors of the subsidiary fices of the executives of the banks. Not banks of State Bank of India, NABARD, a only the Chairman has the luxuries. The provision ii made In this Bill. But we are Managing Director, even the Director and alio having ntw banks like Housing Devel­ the subordinate officers have these luxuries. opment Bank. It is high time that we should think about this. The present hon. Finance Minister Then, there is a proposal for Small Scale who was earlier the Chief Minister of Maha­ Industries Development Bank also. In these rashtra had brought in zero budget to Banks, w$ will have to bring new amend­ economise in the spending. Here also if he ment Instead of that, If these Banks are can bring this concept of economy in the alio covered by this provision, the need for luxurious spending of the officials on tele­ bringing a new amendment will not be phone bills etc., I think the common people there. of the nation would benefit. 427 Banking, Public Finan. DECEMBER 1,1988 Neg, Instruments Laws 428 Institution 4 (Arndt.) Bill [Shri Vijay N. Patil] a Service Area Approach was Intro­ duced, with a view to improving the credit delivery system and the quality t want to make one more suggestion. and productivity of rural lending..N. You nationalise the banks are directly connected with the Central Covemment. I am happy to say that the taigets which State Governments or any other pub­ were fixed - I think 17 per cent - in our lic bodies are not much concerned with the Annual Budget for advancing agricultural banks. Whichever Department or its sub­ credit have been achieved. I think the iSte sidiary is directly connected with the Central of rural credit has gone up to 16.8 per cent. Government, we have got some advisory In view of added urgency to raise agricul­ bodies which include the MPs. For exam­ tural production, the target for direct ad­ ple, in the railways, we have the Zonal Advi­ vances to agriculture was raised from 16 to sory Committee MPs are also on the Advi­ 17 per cent to be reached by public sector sory Committees of the P&T Department. banks by March 1989. I also congratulate Here we cannot appoint MPs as Directors the hon. Minister for having extended this of the Banks because it is an office of profit. Action Plan period for its implementation up But if we can think of this idea that there to the end of March 1989-90. The report should be regional advisory bodies, some highlights: non-officials like. MPs, and economic ex­ perts can be appointed who would advise "To further consolidate the progress, the banks about the functioning of the the Action Plan exercise is being con­ banks in that area. It will be a good propo­ tinued for a further two-year period sition. Something good will come out of it. upto Match 1990 with greater focus That is why, I suggested that regional advi­ on qualitative aspects and special at­ sory committees consisting of MPs and tention to upgradation of branch func­ MLAs and some public figures and eco­ tioning, staff productivity, training, and nomic experts should be nominated in dif­ quality of loan assets and recovery of ferent regions in order to improve the func­ bank dues..". tioning and working of these banks. We are very proud of our Finance Minis­ I thank you for giving more time to ter. We are also very proud of the func­ speak. tioning and operation of our Banks in our country. We can say this boldly. We can SHRI RAM SINCH YADAV (Alwar): Mr. congratulate all those persons who are in­ Chairman, Sir, I rise to support the Banking, volved in the Banking system that the Public Financial Institutions and Negotiable Banking system in India is not inferior in ef­ Instruments Laws (Amendment) Bill, intro­ ficiency and proficiency in comparison with duced by the hon. Finance Minister in this any developed country in the world. I House. I congratulate the hon. Finance would request the hon. Minister that this Minister for introducing and implementing Credit facility and operational proficiency the Service Action Plan and I see the result must be inter-changed with the developing of this Service Area Approach hat been very countries and the Socialist countries, be­ successful so far as the rural lending is con­ cause in the socialist countries, there is an cerned. I hope the hon. Minister will con­ urgency. So far as our exports and import* tinue this effort. are concerned, our exporters and importers have some difficulty while dealing with the Sir, I may mention here the Report of the socialist countries. Therefore, there must be Reserve Bank of India contained in Page 76 some sort of mutual exchange of persons wherein it has been said: who are involved in the banking system so that the persons belonging to those coun­ The Major highlights of banking de­ tries and the persons of India can go there velopments during the year are: (i) A and we may exchange operational effi­ new strategy for rural lending through ciency. I think it is very necessary, so far as 429 Banking Public Finan. ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SV C4) Nqg. Instruments Lam 430 institution 4 (Amdt.) Bill the interests of our exporters and importers tion of these beneficiaries who are to be are concerned. I also request the hon. given the credit and that economic survey Minister to help these people in this regard. should be conducted at the district level and According to the Report, the Department at the btock level. In those blocks, the has achieved a target of establishing bank Vikas Adikari, the Revenue Officer as well as branches in the rural areas. But still the re­ Village Level Worker and the Agricultural Ex­ port has identified that there are 854 blocks tension Officer should be associated and in which there are no rural bank branches. I they should prepare the annual plan as to would request the hon. Minister to establish what is the requirement of the farmers of the banks in all those 854 blocks. They are that area. necessary for achieving increased produc­ tion in agriculture as well as in the small- So far as agricultural credit is concerned, scale industrial sector. The Report further according to these norms, these persons says: who are actually needy and for that particu­ "There is still some scope for opening lar purpose, agricultural credit is needed for additional branches in the rural areas a particular block and that requirement of 854 deficit blocks, according to cur­ should be with the managers of the each rent population and distance branch so that he can cope with the re­ norms...". quirements of the particular area of the block and the district as a whole. Sir, the efforts made by the Department and by the hon. Finance Minister are laud­ Even today the manager of the bank is able. I would further request that more ef­ not involved except where the recovery is fort should be made so as to cover all these concerned or when the advances are con­ 854 deficit blocks. They should also be cerned, the manager of the bank comes into covered. picture. But he does not know the re­ quirements of those persons who are in­ Now, I come to rural credit. As regards volved in small scale industries or in agricul­ agricultural credit, there are three or four tural production.. Therefore, it is very nec­ schemes - Service Area Approach Concept, essary that the manager or the officer of the Lead Bank Concept, District Credit Plan and bank should be apprised of the requirement Annual Action Plan. Now so far as District of that particular area. Credit Plans are concerned, it covers esti­ mation of the potential of the district, pre­ paredness of the credit requirements of the As regards self-employment programme, district, allocation of target by banks and even today there are some defects in that branches in the district and monitoring of programme. I may request the Hon. Minis­ performance of the banks. My submission ter. Sometimes entrepreneur say that he is that the bank which has been given the wants a particular discipline, a particular charge of a particular district, sometimes trade. The District Industries Officer or the that bank does not come up to the mark. person who is incharge of the bank says: Still there is need for revamping and "no, we have got these norms and you have strengthening the rural credit so far as de­ to adopt a particular trade. Otherwise we livery system in the rural areas is concerned. cannot give you finance or the loan for that particular trade which is being desired by Still the manager of the bank is not in­ you." Therefore, there should be liberalisa­ volved with the production plan of that par­ tion or there should be some discretion ticular areas. There is necessity of economic with the bank authorities, the bank man­ survey and the financial requirement of that agers, so that even if that particular trade is particular area. being thaist upon or impressed upon that entrepreneur, that loan should be given ac­ Therefore, my suggestion is that there cording to choice, according to the re­ should be economic survey and identifica­ quirements of the entrepreneur. 431 Banking, Public Finan. DECEMBER 1,1988 Neg. Instruments Laws 432 Institution 4 (Arndt) Bill (Shri Ram Singh Yadav] prove himself innocent and he can give the reasons as to why his cheque was dishon­ I will also say that the Hon. Minister has oured. You have given this concession to to identify those beneficiaries who have the company. But as regards the individual, taken the agricultural credit from that par­ you have not given the concession. Sup­ ticular branch. Now, today there is no proper demarkation of the villages. One pose there is some decree from the civil court. The whole amount which was de­ farmer may take loan from the district level posited in a particular bank has been frozen branch and he may take loan from the other banks also. There should be one branch. or squeezed or has been withheld. And he Theie Regional Rural Banks do not have full cannot withdraw. Now because of that de­ capacity of loaning. Therefore, they cannot cree the cheque has been dishonoured of give the fall credit to the agriculturists ac­ that individual. So, this concept should be kept in mind cording to their own demand. Therefore, and therefore I will say that there must be proper funding should be done either some provision, like the provision of Sec­ through Regional Rural Banks or through tion 141, in Section 140 also that he may commercial banks or through cooperative show the reason that under bona fide cir­ banks or through Land Development Bank. cumstances he issued the cheque and how Whatever be the bank in that particular area it was dishonoured. that should be assigned the task that he ful­ fils all the requirement of loaning in that With these suggestions I fully support particular area so that those people who are the Bill and I commend the action of the working who are in the periphery of a par­ Hon. Minister. ticular bank branch, they can be given this and people can get loans from that particu­ SHRI AMAL DATTA (Diamond Harbour): lar branch of bank and they may not go It is very rarely that we get an opportunity from place to place and from manager to to speak on bank even though this happens manager. That may be avoided. to be the highest democratic forum of the country. Whenever a question about banks 14.00 hrs. and particularly their transactions, their [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair) debts, their loans, etc. arises, the Minister Invariably takes shelter behind the banking There should be a continuous system of regulations Act and say that these are all se­ monitoring on the progress in the imple­ cret. mentation of the plans and individual schemes. This is a lacuna even today be­ The Parliament has practically no control cause in the banking system no one is going over the banks. I think the first thing that to supervise or to see whether the targets we should do is to establish some form of which have been given to a particular parliamentary control over the banks. If we branch or to a particular bank have been speak on banks and criticise their activity achieved or not. This monitoring system only once in five years, when an amend­ must be introduced in the banking system. ment bill comes before us, it does not serve I think the Minister will look into this aspect any purpose. So I will request the Minister also. There must be some sort of an ar­ to give it a serious consideration that this is rangement so that the monitoring system a demand from both sides of the House that may operate. there should be a forum, a Committee for parliamentary control on banks. This Lastly, in this particular amendment should be done before the end of this Par­ which the Hon. Minister has moved, I have liament. a suggestion. You have amended Section 141 and Section 140 of the Negotiable In­ When we nationalised the banks it was struments Act. In Section 141 you have with the object of making loans available to given time to the person who is a defaulter poor people. Pursuant to that object, hanks or whose cheque has been dishonoured to have been extended to rural areas. Certain 433 Banking, Public Finan. AGRAHAYANA10, 1 9 1 0 (SAM) Neg. Instruments Laws 434 Institution 4 (Arndt.) Bill norms have been laid down for the purpose fice of the bank because the Manager of a of seeing whether the banks in rural areas small rural bank would not see such people. are sufficient or not. While in tetter, in This is happening not at one place but at many cases these have been followed by many places. Unless money passes under setting up banks in a particular block and so the table the Manager is not amenable to on, in spirit it has not been. see them or give them any loan. This is something for which there is no monitoring. What has happened is, banks have been There is no way of knowing how many set up in such areas that they are still not people and for what purpose had ap­ accessible to the majority of people living in proached the Manager of a local bank and the blocks. They are situated in a place were refused. There is no way in which the which is most convenient for the bank offi­ bank monitors this. It must be done. cers located in metropolitan towns or big Without that all these amendments by way towns to go and visit them. When I asked of accounting year, board of directors and them as to why they don't have banks in all that are not going to make any differ­ the interior of the block and in the central ence. Your system is totally defective and place of the block the stock answer is that unless it is cured these measures are not houses are not available. I have pursued going to go to the root of the defect at all. this matter a little further and have been told -- it is for the Minister to say whether it is correct or not - that the banks do not Then the rural banks are just set-up in want to spend money in building houses or name only and two persons are put to man buying houses or any land property for that a bank. It is not enough. Further mostly matter because that is not allowed as a de­ they are not there. Only one person comes. duction in their income tax. As a result they The other does not come. So there is no go in for very high rental houses. If they are way in which these poor people can get the not getting suitable accommodation in a loans or approach the Manager. Further the particular rural area then they would ap­ staff who are there are not properly moti­ proach the richest man in the locality and vated. There is no proper system of inspec­ would ask him to build a house for them. tion and seeing what is happening in the They would make available money by way banks the bank authorities have no knowl­ of advance rent and the entire money edge about it. The bank authorities have no needed for construction of the house will be knowledge for what additional purposes the given to him. When the bank staff lives in rural people are still going to the village such houses they immediately become iden­ money-lender. The money-lender still re­ tified with the richer sections of the rural mains their main source. The banks have people. This way the bank staff gets not been able to replace him even after 17- aliented from the poor people for whom 18 years of their nationalisation and after these rural banks are supposed to be estab­ this big effort has been made. This is very lished. serious. I think something must be done in this respect. Then what happens is that the staff commutes from a distance. They have no knowledge of the local people. They have Another thing I have noticed is that if. no sympathies for them. When small peo­ cooperative or some individuals have taken ple approach fbew for small loans for cot­ a loan 10-12 years ago and they could not tage industries or for agriculture they are repay that loan because of some natural allowed crpss the threshold of the calamity the banks have an elephant's M anager^ room. I Personal memory in this respect and they will not experience. A number of times, I had sent allow any such person to get any further people but they came back spying they were loan. Even if it is 10 years ago, even if it is by not §tfow#d to meet the gfcnk Manager. U l­ a cooperative whose management Has timately | had to send them to the main of­ defalcated the money and it is known to the 435 Banking, Public Finan. DECEMBER 1,1988 Neg. Instruments Lam436 Institution 4 (Amdt.) BUI [Shri Ama) Datta] bank board, act as touts of those people to see that they themselves personally, their bank, even then they will not give any fur­ relations, etc., get loans whenever applied ther loan. There must be some check on for. These are not public-spirited people. this. What we find is that so far as big busi­ They have come in the fringe of politics to ness is concerned, one - who has already get some share, some root out of the. politi­ taken a few lakhs or crores of rupees - cal process. These are the people who are come back for further loan; he doesn't repay put in the position where they can line their the earlier loan; he comes for a further loan pockets. and he gets it. But in the case of small peo­ ple, poor people, the earlier loan may be Rs. As I said, there is no monitoring of the 200 or something like that. The totality of it applications for loans which are granted or in the whole district may be a lakh of ru­ not granted. There is also no monitoring of pees. For that reason, these people are pe­ the recoveries made of loans given. Al­ nalised. There must be some limit to the though the Reserve Bank has the responsi­ number of years for which the bank will bility to authorise loans above a certain carry this kind of memory forward and then amount, apparently that responsibility is not refuse loans. being properly discharged. As is shown by several cases, loans have been given even Because of lack of motivation, suppos­ to non-existing companies. One such cases edly the loan me/as were started. We have which comes to my mind immediately is the had a few questions and a few discussions Rajinder Setia's case. There, R$. 200-300 on loan melas in this House but never very crores were given certainly not without the satisfactorily in the sense that we have authorisation of the Reserve Bank. How never come to know exactly how the loan could it happen? Is there any explanation? me/as were organised, how the beneficiaries Has anything been given by the Govern­ were selected and how much loans were ment in that regard? given to them and what was the rate of re­ covery. I think this is very important now. I think, it has been sunk into the hierarchy Then, I come to the process of setting up that loan melas are not a very good way of of new companies where the financial insti­ giving loans. As a matter of fact, it is my tutions and the banks have to work to­ knowledge that half of this was going to the gether. There is no consort between the bank managers in the local towns. But the two. As a result, what happens? On the selection of beneficiaries was being made basis of RBI report, I know that a majority of politically and that was a very very bad the companies of small and medium size are thing. I believe the Reserve Bank has given sick by the time they have commenced their notes against that. However, 1 would urge production. This happens because of the that loan me/a experiment should not be long gestation period between application repeated. for a loan and the time the loan is sanc­ tioned and then disbursed, and ultimately Now, about the directors of companies. for the factories or units to start. That must There is a provision to have non-official di­ be there. There is no mechanism by which rectors. Who are these non-official direc­ this harmony or consort can be established tors and how are they selected? Is there between banks and financial institutions. any guideline? I believe, there is none. But it is a must if sickness of industries is to What has happened is that the hangers-on be avoided in future. If you have of the local, state or national leaders at vari­ children bom sick, then they will be ous levels get selected. Their only purpose sick all their lives. That has been the in going to the Board of the bank is to have fate of many of the 1.5 lakh companies in the prestige, and to have connection. They India, which are sick today. This can be build up connection with big business, taken care of by this kind of action where richer people and they then sitting in the there is an organization to see that the 437 Banking, Public Fman. AGRAHAYANA1 0 ,1910C&4/C4) Instruments Laws 438 Institution 4 (Arndt) Bill banks and the financial institutions move waived. I think, this is a step which re­ together and move fast; there must be a quires reconsideration, because giving un­ time limit within which loans have to be limited powers to the Reserve Bank of India sanctioned or not to be sanctioned. If not may not be good. The ceiling may be raised sanctioned, or not adequately sanctioned, from time to time, not that the ceiling reasons must be given. What we are doing should be waived altogether and unlimited today is to follow the old practice of money powers given to the Reserve Bank. This lenden. The money lender would not give principles does not seem to be sound. any reason why he is refusing any loan. But these are public institutions; these are The Reserve Bank of India commands a meant for everybody. If they discriminate, great public respect for its credibility for its then there must be a check against that. role as a strong custodian of the public ex­ The banks must be obliged to give reasons chequer. However, now there are occa­ on what grounds loans are being refused. sions sometimes to suspect the integrity on We have to see and find out why for the the part of some employees of this Institu­ same kind of projects, while A, B and C are tion. The past glory seems to have been being given loans, D, E and F are not being eroded and there is a comment that it has given loans. Why should it happen? This is now been converted into a cesspool of cor­ discriminatory and should not be allowed in ruption and malpractices by a section of the a country where the Constitution prescribes employees by using several ingenious that this is a Socialist State. methods.

I urge upon the Finance Minister to take Now that this has come on light, I would note of this; there must be some check on request the hon. Finance Minister to get it the financial institutions and also the banks, inquired into by the CBI and see that imme­ the way they refuse loan to certain people, diate and drastic steps are taken. Let us not or the way they drag them on, so that ulti­ be satisfied with departmental inquiries, be­ mately the industries when set up become cause thereby the problem will not be sick. solved and we will not gain public confi­ dence. SHRI SOMNATH RATH (Aska): Sjr, I rise to support the Bill. This Bill is going to in­ vest powers to the Reserve Bank of India to Similarly, it is alleged that certain bank have special audit of banks whenever con­ managers are involved in swindling the sidered necessary in the public interest de­ bank money in league with some industrial­ manded by depositors etc. It is certainly a ists. I would like to quote from an editorial very praise-worthy step. The Bill has also entitled 'A Swindlers7 Paradise7 published in given due consideration to the principles the daily Orissa Times, dated 26.11.1988: enunciated by the Estimates Committee to provide uniform tenure to all the non-official "We wish to make references here to Directors and employee-Directors on the the case of Sewa Paper Mills, Koraput Board of the State Bank of India etc. The and the Paradip Marine Products and Bill also empowers the Central Covemment the Baragarh Autosprings in which the to change the accounting year of any bank Bank managers were allegedly in­ or any financial institution by notification. volved in the swindling of funds in In this connection, I suggest that the finan­ collusion with crafty swindlers. The cial year should be uniform for all the hanks CBI can unearth the whole drama if it and the financial institutions. Conducts a proper probe on it."

In the Bill ceiling on the quantum of I request the hon. Minister to kindly take loam and advances which could be made note of this. Let this matter be inquired into by Reserve Bank of India to the Industrial by the CBI as mentioned in the editorial of Finance Corporation of India has been the paper. 439 Banking, Public Finan. DECEMBER 1,1988 Neg. Instruments Law s 440 Institution 4 (Aitidt) Bill [Shri Somnath Rath] the Reserve Bank's powers, the Govern­ ment's powers and the State Banks' pow­ The Bill also empowers the Chairman of ers. In many cases, it seeks to bring uni­ the NABARD to discharge the duties and formity in the system by having the same functions of the Managing Director in case accounting year or having the uniform term the post falls vacant. But let not this va­ of office for these Directors, etc. I am not a cancy continue for a long time. The banking expert, therefore I would not dwell NABARD which serves mostly the agricul­ on these several effects which these provi­ turists should advance credit in time. The sions would be on our banking industries. credit for seeds, fertilizers, etc. and for other Nor do I propose to utilise this opportunity agricultural implements etc. becomes a of reviewing the working of our nationalised mere waste unless provided in time. So, banks. I am more disturbed with respect to giving credit just for the sake of credit will the amendment in the Negotiable Instru­ not solve the problem. It must be given in ments Act, particularly that Amendment time and in such a manner that the credit which seeks to convert a civil liability into a will be utilised for the purpose for which it criminal liability. Superficially one would is given. Due attention should be given to feel that what is wrong if a person gives a this aspect. cheque and the amount is not there; with* out the amount being there in the bank he Banks have come in a very big way in the gives a cheque carelessly or with a view to rural areas in assisting the poverty allevia­ cheat somebody, why should he not be tion schemes. While giving credit assistance punished? That would be superficial think­ or loan to the beneficiaries, it must be given ing about this provision. But as a lawyer, I very quickly. The subsidy given by the Cov­ feel that we are introducing a very danger­ emment is kept pending for years together ous proposition as far as the jurisprudence and the banks invest this money and get in­ of this country is concerned. Civil liability terests. The beneficiaries are not given can never be converted into a criminal lia­ credit or loan in time. So, specific steps bility. It was in the old-old days - in 12th or should be taken to check this practice of 13th Century — that in England also for a delaying and a probe should be made to civil debt, a person used to be imprisoned. find out as to which are those banks that When I was studying the other day the keep the subsidy with them given by the privileges of our Parliament, I came across a Government for the purpose of poverty al­ case in May's Parliamentary Practice that leviation programmes for years together in­ even the Speaker of the House of Com­ stead of advancing the loans in time. In mons was - in the 12th Century - arrested such cases, I would urge that the interest for civil liability and the Commons promptly gained by bank should be passed on to the elected the other Speaker. Therefore, the beneficiaries. Thank you. privilege of freedom from arrest came. Apart from that what I was emphasising was SHRI SHARAD DIGHE (Bombay North this that it was in old days for civil liabilities Central): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise to a person used to be punished by imprison­ support the Banking, Public Financial Insti­ ment, by find and slowly as the civilisation tutions and Negotiable Instruments Laws progressed this idea was given up. In this (Amendment) Bill which is before the country also even in the British regime, they House. As stated in the Statement of Ob­ removed from the Civil Procedure Code, jects and Reasons, the Banking Laws were those provisions which entitled a plaintiff \o last amended in the year 1985. Since then send the defendant in civil jail for not satis­ several difficulties were brought to the no­ fying a civil decree. Therefore that principle tice of the Government. Therefore, in about has been firmly established in all the 13 Acts, Amendments are sought to be done civilised countries, in all the progressive by this Bill. Most of the Amendments seek countries including this country, even from to improve the functioning of the banking the British days. Therefore, we always m institutions in India and also to strengthen to say that arrest for civil liability is no 441 Hanking, Public Finan. AGRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SAJC4) Neg. Instruments Laws 442 Institution d (Amdt.) Bill longer there. It is absolute now. But now that is a different matter; cheating is a dif­ for the first time I find that if a person fails ferent matter. But in ordinary cases, why do to pay for a cheque, then he will be pun­ you want to punish that person. Already, ished criminally. It will be deemed to be an there are sufficient rules for the banks also. offence. So it is a deeming provision and As you know, the question of reputation is the provision that is made is, if for any debt there. Banks always close the account of or civil liability, a cheque has been given those whose cheques are often dishon­ and if it is dishonoured, then within 15 oured. The Central Bank is there; The Bank days, the creditor will give notice of this of India is there. I have come across cases dishonour. where they say, well, your cheques are be­ ing dishonoured twice; now, hereafter, if ' Thereafter within 15 days if he does not they are dishonoured, then we will close make the payment, he will be deemed to your accounts. So, that is the protection have committed an offence; he can be sent which is there today; and in spite of that to jail for one year and can be fined with protection, in spite of the law which pun­ double the amount given in the cheque. I ishes a person who is cheating, why do you submit a very dangerous proposition we are want to have this provision thereby in ordi­ introducing; and once this is accepted, we nary cases, when cheques are dishonoured, may be tempted to go further in all civil lia­ he will be punished as a criminal offence? bilities for punishing persons for inability to Therefore, I urge upon the government to pay. It has been established that inability to take a second look on the matter. You are pay or poverty can never be an offence. introducing a very dangerous proposition You can have a civil decree against him, but, which will go a long way in introducing fur­ ultimately, if a civil decree cannot be satis­ ther and further dangerous propositions. fied, it cannot be converted into a criminal Therefore, I urge upon the government to liability. Now, here, even both these de­ look into this matter. With these words, I fences are already taken out under Sections support this Bill. 139 and 140 which are introduced here, namely, that the consideration under the SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN cheque will be presumed, it will be pre­ (Kishanganj): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, 20 sumed that the holder of a cheque received years ago, with great fan-fade, we nation­ the cheque of the nature referred to in Sec­ alised the banking system to achieve a so­ tion 133 for discharge of the whole or part cial purpose. During this period, there had of any debt. So, that presumption is given. been a phenomenal growth of the banking I can never say in the court, no, that consid­ system. But, I am sorry to say that this eration was illegal or anything of that kind. growth has been largely disorganised, ha* Secondly, it will not also be a defence that pazard leading to incoherence in the sys­ he has no reason to believe when he issued tem, creation of gaps, many situations of a cheque that the cheque may be dishon­ overlap and sometimes clash of interest. I oured; that defence is also taken away un­ believe, therefore, that the time has come der Section 140. In commercial transactions for a critical look at the banking system, for several times cheques are issued with the an agonising appraisal, if that be necessary expectation that the arrangement will be and for taking an objective view of our re­ made by that time, but, sometimes, that ex­ quirements and for a ruthless re-organisa­ pectation fails; that does not mean that tion if it is found to be necessary. there is always necessarily an intention to cheat a person; and if cheating is the ele­ ment, then still under the Indian Penal Rarely do we find a moment to discuss Code, he can be prosecuted under Section the banking system. And that is why while 420 of the Indian Penal Code, if it is pro­ the Bill before us is largely innocuous, with vided that while giving a cheque or there the possible exception of two or three pro­ was no intention to pay at all, then he can visions which have already attracted the at­ be again prosecuted and sent to jail. But tention of my learned colleagues, I would 443 Banking, Public Fman. DECEMBER 1,1988 Neg. Instruments Laws 444 Institution 4 (Arndt.) Bill [Shri Syed Shahbuddui] are situated in the deep south or in the west - have operations all over the country? like to take this opportunity to place before And, therefore, I believe, for one thing, let the Covemment and the hon. Minister the State Bank of India have a subsidiary for some aspects of the banking system. each State. And then in each State, either the State Bank of India or its subsidiary First, let us take the branch expansion should operate along with it not more than policy. We have gone into the rural areas, two other nationalised banks and of course and yet there are deficient blocks. Perhaps a Crameena bank system, operating therein. those blocks are inaccessible ones but even in the blocks which have been theoretically Similarly in every district We shall of serviced, there are large areas, perhaps course have the SBI or the SBI subsidiary whole Pahchayats, which remain unserviced and then the lead bank. Let the lead bank because they are inaccessible, off the main perform the functions of the expansion of highway. But what is worse is that in this the branches. We have been told, perhaps branch expansion spree, We find that all na­ that may not be legally, easily possible. But tionalised banks and all private banks have I was also told that the Covemment has set been permitted to open branches all over up a committee and there are possibilities the country. Every bank today operates of amalgamation of mergers, of exchanges. practically in every State of the country, and I suggest that the Covemment could go vice-versa every State has a multiplicty of ahead and take a critical look at this branch banks operating therein, not only at the expansion policy. State level, not only just at the main centres of population but even right down to the ru­ Next item is specialised banking. Over ral level. the years we have developed specialisation banks in export and import, in industry, in PROF. N. C. RANCA (Cuntur): That is agriculture. Now we are going to have in not bad. housing and we have of course the coopera­ tive system. We should have these spe­ SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: No, it is cialised banks and they should cover all the bad. In my view it is bad. It is administra­ major areas of economic activity in that par­ tively not justifiable, because it leads to ticular sphere. waste, unmanageability, a infrastructure which is costly, and which is wasteful to the I forgot trade. There may even be a nation. And also, it leads to lack of coordi­ bank purely for leasing operations, special­ nation, it leads to almost complete lack of ising in that particular type of hire-purchase rapport, complete inability of the Covem­ activity. But, why should every bank engage ment at the State level or district level or at in every type of activity? You can have, the block level, to have any meaningful dia­ therefore, a specialisation, a system of spe­ logue with the banks which are operating in cialisation. Let us delink them. We can a given area. have separate banks as I said for whole-sale trade, for agriculture, for industry, for inter­ PROF. N. C. RANCA; There is need for nal trade for export and import and for competition. housing and then if I may suggest; for the consideration of the hon. Minister - be­ SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: You have cause social banking has a different purpose your views; I do not dispute your views. from commercial banking, let there be a You will have your opportunity of stating specialised bank, a National Bank for Social your views. Let me state mine. Welfare. Because I know that the commer­ cial banks are not fully implementing the The State Bank of India should have a policies laid down by the Government for national run. There is no question about it. credit flow to the minorities, to the Sched­ But why should all the banks - some banks uled Castes, to the Scheduled Tribes and 445 Banking, Public Finan. AGRAHAYANA1 0 ,1910(SA/C4) Neg. Instruments U rn 446 Institution S (Amdt.) Bill other weaker sections of the people. Per­ ments have no control over the flow of haps the Commercial bank Managers, who credit or over the way the banking system have got a particular approach do not quite function. This needs to be probed into. I appreciate the social compulsions of the would request the hon. Minister to pay Government in prescribing those schemes, some attention to it. and therefore they are not particularly atten­ tive towards them. Sir, I would like to say that the credit to the weaker sections under DRI Scheme or Sir, the rural banking system that we to the minorities under Prime Minister's Fif­ have developed has become a focus of dis­ teen Point Programme has not been suitably content, because you cannot have two sys­ monitored. I know my friend Shri Faleiro tems of wages for the same job. This is es­ has been trying to set up a monitoring ap­ sentially the problem. I am sure that the paratus. I wish him success and I hope that hon. Minister is ware of it. While I plead for he would come soon before this House and the rural branches to be skeleton branches tell us about the result that he has achieved. because they do not require a very big staff, we should conceptualise them as barefoot Sir, when you are giving the power of bankers, a three-man operation - a Man­ special audit to the Reserve Bank, let the ager, a Cashier and a Messenger. What I Ministry also monitor the question of frauds, want is, those who operate at the rural bevel the question of write-offs and the question must have the same terms and conditions of of overdues at suitable intervals, may be an­ the service as their counterparts in more nually, I do not demand a non-freeman sys­ advanced banking system. Why should they tem, but you should not come and tell us be discriminated against because they are that you do not know about it. As a Gov­ serving in the rural sector, because they are ernment, you are accountable to us and we serving the rural masses? This has created expect you to be fully informed about such discontent This must be done away with. cases of frauds, write-offs and overdues.

Sir, the service area approach adopted Finally Sir, I come to the question of cus­ by the Reserve Bank, I fully appreciate. But tomer service. The customer today is un­ I would like to inform the hon. Minister that happy with the system. Apart from being many Gram Panchayats and many villages in cesspool of corruption the banks have be­ Gram Panchayats have no access to the comes across between a fish market and a banking service. I know Panchayats which den of opium-eaters. Nobody does any job. do not have access to IRDP facility for this I hope the hon. Minister will look into it reason. Theoretically they are on the map Rules and regulations will not do unless the of the development administration, but personnel becomes more efficient, more when it comes to actually getting credit, no punctual, more courteous and more atten­ bank caters tew them. I would suggest that tive to the customers' demands. every lead bank in every district must pub­ lish panchayat-wise list of banks which are SHRI IC RAMAMURTHY (Krishnagiri): I supposed to service them. rise to support this Bill which is under con­ sideration. I also congratulate the hon. Sir, I would not like to say too much Minister of Finance and also the Minister of about the coordination between the ad­ State Incharge of Banking for having ministration and the banking system. De­ brought this Bill. This Bill mainly envisages velopment administration should not merely some sort of uniform functioning, uniformity be coordinated with the administrative ap­ in the power of Board of Directors in the paratus but it must be detailed into the matter of appointments and so on and so banking system. It is not so. The banks are forth. If I remember correct, exactly a year like a State within a State. That to speak of back i.e. on 24th November, 1987 the IN- the poor BDOs, what to speak of the Dis­ TUC unions functioning in banks along with trict Magistrates, even the State Govem- 100 MPs from treasury benches had agi- 447 Banking, Public Finan. DECEMBER 1,1988 Neg. Instalments Laws 448 Institution 4 (Amdt.) Bill [Shri K. Ramamurthy] About the chief executives of the banks, the less said the better. Can you imagine tated by Dhama before the Banking De­ that the letters of MPs are not replied by partment. Now some of the demands have them? They think that they are supreme in been conceded through this Bill. That is this country, more than anybody else. Even why, I congratulated the hon. Minister. if I write a letter to a Chief Executive, he asks one of his General Managers to reply I am in full agreement with Mr. Amal to that. It is only now that the Chief Execu­ Datta when he says that as on date the tives have started writing to MPs. Even banks are not under any control. The high­ though we have abolished privy purses, we est democratic forum in our country is Par­ have created 28 new princes in this country. liament. And you will be surprised to know As the hon. Members have pointed out, ev­ that Parliament does not have any control erybody is having his own empire in this over Banks. Neither PU nor EC nor PAC capital or wherever these banks are situ­ has any control over them. Whenever we ated. demand that the banks should be brought under the control of any one of the parlia­ If you see the expenditure of the Chief mentary committees, every time the bu­ Executives not only on their bungalows but reaucratic reply is that under the secrecy also on their travelling expenses and other clause, under the Banking CompaniesAct, it things, you will have very great astonish­ is not possible to do that. Is it correct on ment and surprise as to how these people the part of bureaucratic system to keep the are looting these banks. Can you show me banks away from parliamentary control? a Chief Executive who has not undertaken a That is why I am in concurrence with Mr. foreign tour within three months? What Amal Datta on this issue. We must have a check is the Department of Banking or the rethinking on this. If the banks are brought Minister having on the foreign tours of under the purview of either PU or EC or these chief executives? Once I came across PAC, their functioning will improve. And it one such chief executive. I asked him will give real social justice to the people of "When there is no bank branch of yours in this country. that country, then why are you going there?" He said: "I am going there to ex­ As on date, the functioning of the bank^ plore the possibility of opening a bank is nothing but miserable. These are now branch in that foreign country." This is the completely managed by the bureaucracy, way in which the banks are functioning chief executives and some of the trade nowadays. How far is it going to give social union colleagues who are in the Board. The justice to the people, or how far is it going full-fledged board which was re-constituted to give better financial management in this on 31 March, 1985 is still pending with the country? Government. There is no full-fledged board. It is good that the Bill is bringing out There is no control of Parliament. At the some amendment for making a provision for same time, in the absence of the statutory the amalgamation of the banks. Are we rich audit, how do you expect that these banks enough to maintain twenty-eight banks will be functioning properly? This is a vital here? Why not we amalgamate them into matter. three banks or four banks to minimise the These banks have been nationalised by expenditure on account of overheads and our late Prime Minister, Shrimati Indira also the establishment charges? This is a Gandhi, to bring about social change and matter of very serious concern and the social justice to the people. With that laud­ Banking Department should go into it For able objective these banks have been na­ restricting the bank branches in foreign tionalised. But nothing has been achieved countries also we have to do something. In in this direction so far. This is my agony some of the Far-East countries, you can see which I am putting before this august the branches of our banks just as you see House. them on our Parliament street. So, can't we 449 Banking, Public fin an. ACRAHAYANA1 0 ,1910(SA/C4) Neg. Instruments Laws 450 Institution 4 (Amdt.) Bill think of limiting them to one or two banks The other point is that the officers in the alone in foreign countries? banks do not have any grievance nedressal machinery. Of course, other staff members The other thing is with regard to em­ are covered under the Industrial Disputes ployees. I want to make it a point that Act but the officers are not covered by any three years back the settlement has expired. such procedure. It is the whims and fancies For the last three years, the I BA is going on of the bank's management to see how they negotiating and negotiating but till date, can be victimised. So, my suggestion is that nothing has been achieved. No agreement the bank officers should be covered by the has been reached. So, in all urgency, I de­ Central Covemment Administrative Tri­ mand that immediate concluding of the ne­ bunal; otherwise there is no justification at gotiations of both employees and officers all. Suppose one officer is suspended or he for an amicable settlement is necessary. is terminated, knowingly or unknowingly, How long can they wait for it? he has to wait for fourteen years or fifteen Another problem about the functioning years to get justice in a court of law. So, it is of the banks is the transfer policy of the high time that the Government should think banks which they are now practising. whether the jurisdiction of the Central Cov­ When some case of transfer was pending emment Administrative Tribunal can be ex­ with the Supreme Court, at that time the tended to the bank officers also. Supreme Court Judges had held that trans­ fer is not a punishment. But when the Gov­ ernment started transferring even the High It is good that the Covemment has come Court Judges/then they started hue and cry. out with restricting the period of bank direc­ tors' term of office to six years. hey said, yes, it is a punishment; this is a vindictive attitude. Actually, in the banks, transfer is a weapon used by the bank exec­ utives to see that some union or the other Sir, in this connection, I would like to does not function within the bank. The in­ point out that an officer — Director in the dustrial relations policy practised by the na­ State Bank of India is continuing for more tionalised banks is worse than even the than 9 years. apartheid policy of the Pretoria regime. The Minister is laughing. He knows it fully well AN HON. MEMBER: It is very bad. how it is going on in this country. Can you imagine that on behalf of the union, the State Bank of India, till recently, was not al­ SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: Sir, the State lowing me to open an account. Am I a Bank of India has not intimated the term of smuggler or am I debarred from opening an office of the Board of Directors to the Gov­ account in this country. This is the practice ernment. I am told that the particular Board of the State Bank of India. Not only in the of Director has submitted his resignation, State Bank of India, in all other banks the but it has not been forwarded to the Gov­ industrial relations policy is nothing but ernment. I am sorry to state that we are apartheid policy. So, this must be looked having this type of Chief Executives, this into. Please see that the infrastructure and type of Managing Directors in the banks. the basic facilities for a normal tfade union We say that the policy followed in this re­ functioning are given. The banks are prac­ gard in Government Department is worse. tising the untouchable policy towards IN- But so far, for four years, they have not ap­ TUC union because they want to patronise pointed a full-fledged Board in the banks. their captive unions. The funniest part of How can a bank function if this situation is the thing is that the banks are not only obtained there? So, Sir, these are some of managing the bank affairs, they are running the points placed before this august House the unions also. So, this worst thing has to and I hope the hon. Minister will kindly be looked into at all levels and some reme­ consider them and take necessary action. I dial measures have to be taken. welcome this Bill. 451 Banking, Public Finan. DECEMBER 1,1988 Neg. Instruments Laws 452 Institution 4 (Amdt.) Bill [Translation] sidy provided to industries in industrially backward areas in Tamil Nadu, particularly ♦SHRI R. JEEVARATHINAM (Arakkonam): to the bank any hotel industry has been Sir, I welcome the rise in the limit of paid up stopped. This has affected many persons, d^pital of the banks. At present the banks who have already started the industry in the are charging higher interest rates. The in­ hope of receiving subsidy from the Gov­ terest rates particularly those cUalrged from ernment. This has also resulted in unem­ the trading community and other small ployment. This question must be seriously businessmen must be reduced. Likewise considered and provision of subsidy to in­ the interest rates charged by the rural De­ dustries, particularly, to hotel industry in in­ velopment banks must also be reduced. dustrially backward areas in Tamil Nadu The number of rural Development banks must be resumed. There are many edu­ must be increased and every such bank cated unemployed in the State. Atleast the should be set up at block level. The local vacancies in the banks must be increased by people must be employed in those banks. 10% so that the unemployed graduates can Priority should be given in employment in be absorbed in employment in these banks. these rural development banks to women and harijans. Special vigilance officials must The grievances of the bank employees be appointed in every branch of the banks must be redressed without delay. The bank to monitor the malpractices being commit­ employees often resort to strikes and this ted in these banks. Information on these affects the public interest. At all costs the malpractices with details regarding punish­ bank strikes must be avoided. The Mem­ ments meted out to the erring officials must bers of Parliament should be allowed to be contained in a report which should be oversee the activities of the banks in their presented to this Parliament every year. respective constituencies. Hon'ble Membei The report should clearly reflect the number Shri K. Ramamoorthy pointed out that th« of malpractices detected, the number of &tate Bank of India officials do not properly complaints received, action taken on these respond to letters written by Members o complaints. This report must be made Parliament. Even when Members of Parlia bankwise and must be submitted alongvvith ment it the banks, the banks officials enjoy the annual reports of the banks. their lunch time without even courteously receiving the Hon'ble Members of Parlia The private chit fund organisations and ment. They even depute their P. As to reply private money-lenders must also receive the to the Members that the officer is very busy watchful attention of the Government. and that the Members of Parliament cannoi These money-lenders and private chit funds get an interview. This condition must go are charging exorbitant interest rates. The Hon'ble Minister must pass necessary or money-lenders sometimes charge 30%, ders to all the bank officials so that Mem­ 35%, 40% and even 60%. The interest rates bers of Parliament are received properly by chargeable b^ these money-lenders and chit the bank officials and replied properly wher fund agencies must be fixed to a minimum they write to them. While providing loans, level by a Statute as in the case of banks. the banks must give priority to national de­ Erring agencies and money-lenders who vi­ velopment programmes. In all official func­ olate the statutory limit must be punished tions connected with the banks the Mem­ severely. Nationalised Banks charge 10% to bers of Parliament must be given proper re­ 16% but such a limit does not exist in the spect and priority. When a branch is to be case of private money-lending agencies. opened in a particular area even the M.P, The nationalised banks must offer attractive concerned is not informed. The functions interest rates for fixed deposits so that are hold without the Members of Parliament money from the public is mopped up for na­ and other public dignitaries. This is a very tion-building activities. Presently the sub- bad attitude on the part of the bank officials.

* Translation of the speech originally delivered in Tamil. ♦53 St. re; Espionage Activities AGRAHAYANA1 0 ,1910(SA/C4) Banking, Public Finan. Insti 454 of two Officials f Neg. Instruments Laws (Arndt.) Bill \s Hon'ble Member Shri K. Ramamoorthy When they were apprehended, one of has said that it is the officials of the banks the Pakistani nationals claimed that he was kvho decide about the functions without a diplomat although he had no documents even informing the concerned Members of to establish this. It was subsequently con­ Parliament. The representatives of the firmed that he was Brigadier Z. I. Abbasi, people should not be given such a raw deal, Military Attache in the Pakistan Embassy. fhe public representatives are embarrassed His associate was identified as Mohammad before the people when they ask the Mem­ Ashraf Khatlb, an official of the Pakistan Em­ ber? of Parliament the reason for not at­ bassy. After observing the usual formalities, tending such fur ctions. Hon'ble Minister Brigadier Abbasi and Mohammad Ashraf may please issue strict guidelines to be fol­ Khatib were released. A case has been reg­ lowed in respect of Members of Parliament istered under the Official Secrets Act. .vhile organising such functions. The Government of India have declared In the nationalised banks the commis­ Brigadier Abbasi persona non grata and sions being charged on Demand Drafts are have advised the Pakistan Embassy that /ery high. The private banks charge only Mohammad Ashraf Khatib is also no longer 1%, 3% or 5% but the nationalised banks acceptable. The Embassy has been asked to :harge 10%. If a person wants to take a ensure that they leave India within twenty Demand Draft of Rupees on lakh he has to four hours. pay 1000/- rupees as commission. Instead of paying such a huge commission he can send the money by a personal messenger. Hon'ble Minister may kindly look into this. 15.05 hrs.

I had already said that the number of ed- BANKING, PUBLIC FINANCIAL INSTITU­ jcated unemployed is on the increase, and, TIONS AND NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENTS herefore, before the age limit for employ­ LAWS (AMENDMENT) BILL — Contd. ment is crossed the educated unemployed must be provided with employment. With [English] these words, Sir, I conclude. SHRI INDRAJIT CUPTA (Basirhat): Mr Deputy-Speaker, Sir, this Bill to amend the laws covering our banks, financial institu­ 15.02 hrs. tions a$ well as negotiable instruments laws is a big disappointment, I should say. It is STATEMENT RE: ESPIONAGE ACTIVITIES because we had expected that a Bill of this OF TWO OFFICIALS OF PAKISTAN type would propose some basic changes in EMBASSY the structure of the nationalised banking sector. The structure had continued un­ .English] changed for nearly 18 years now since na­ tionalisation took place. There should be THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS some review of this period and then only, it (SHRI P. V. NARASIMHA RAO): Two Pak­ can be argued whether there is no need to istani national were detected by the Special change the structure and that it is doing Branch of the Delhi Police at Ranjit Hotel on very well as it is. At present, there are 28 the evening of 30th November, 1988, while nationalised banks which are engaged in they were in the process of receiving a se­ free-for-all competition with each other. cret Defence document from an Indian con­ This was in the private sector which we tact and passing over to the Indian contact took over but it still continues. These 28 a sum of Rs. 50,000/-. There was also an­ banks which are competing with each other other Indian national who was an accom­ involve a huge amount of wasteful expendi­ plice of the Pakistani nationals. ture, top heavy management. By all logic 455 Banking, Public Fin a d . DECEMBER 1,1988 Neg. Instruments Laws 45a Institution 4 (Arndt.) Bill [Shri Indrajit Gupta] help the private sector to develop, then, | have got nothing to say. But, as far as spe­ and reason, they should be amalgamated cific amendments which are incorporated in and integrated into, not more than say 6 or this Bill are concerned, for example, we find 7 homogeneous units. There is no need at all Clause 5 omits the ceiling which was there for this type of proliferation of independent on the quantum of loans which can be ad­ banks, all of them being within the nation­ vanced to the IFCI by the Reserve Bank of alised sector. We all know that the country India. Clause 35 increases the limit on the is suffering from a great crisis-if it is too paid-up capital of new banks from Rs. one strong a word, you can use a softer word-as hundred crores. to Rs. 500 crores. But, far as resources are concerned. The accu­ nowhere in the Bill is there any indication of mulated total deposits in the nationalised what are the priorities of a national credit banks represents a massive block of re­ policy of banking which would really em sources which are available to the Govern­ ploy this banking capital in the manner in ment for investment and development pur­ which I thinkJt was sought to be employed poses and that was one of the main objects at the time When the banks were taken of nationalisation itself-that these deposits over. instead of being at the disposal of the pre­ vious private owners of these banks, all I cannot do better than quote Shrimati these should be made available to the Cov­ Indira Gandhi herself who was the author of emment and the States for a planned in­ this institution of banks. She said and I may vestment in the interest of the country's de­ quote: velopment and in order to help the less for­ tunate sections of the people. I do not "Public ownership and control of the know, what is the latest figure about the commanding heights of the economy value of the total deposits in the banks. I and its strategic sectors were consid­ know that a year or two ago, it was about ered an essential aspect of the new Rs. 81,000 crores. I presume that figure has social order being built up in India. gone up further now. This is a solid block Financial institutions are among the of banking capital resources which are most important levers that any soci­ available. And the least the Covemment ety has at its command for the can do is-when there is so much strain for achievement of its social and eco­ resources which is today operating on so nomic objectives. The nationalisation many deficits, revenue deficit, trade deficit, of major banks was a significant step in the process of public control over balance of trade deficit, dwindling foreign the principal institution for the mo­ exchange reserves and all that-the least it bilisation of people's savings and can do is to ensure that this money which is canalising them towards productive lying in the banks and which is increasing purposes. The Government believes naturally from year to year should be utilised that this step would help the most to the best advantage of the country. effective mobilisation and deployment of national resources so that the na­ As far as I see, this Bill is only another tional objectives would be realised link in the chain of economic liberalisation with greater degree of success." which the Covemment is pursuing for the last two or three years. Hitherto this liber­ alisation policy was mainly confined to In­ My submission is that the present credit dustry and to trade-import and export. policy which is being followed by the Now it seems to me that the long arm of banking sector with the blessings of the Re­ liberalisation is now reaching the financial serve Bank and the Government of India is structure also. not a policy which is aimed at achieving the national objectives to which the then Prime If it is the object of the nationalised Minister had referred. It is not our national banking sector and if its prime priority is to objective to make the public sector a vehicle 457 Banking, Public Finan. ACRAHAYANA1 0 ,1910(5A/C4) Neg. instruments U rn 458 Institution f (Arndt.) Bill ,r an engine for developing the private sec- through dishonest act, I am all in favour of or. That is not the priority of our national punishment being made more severe. inking policy. It is not our national objec- ive to allow the lion's share of bank credit The other question I would finally like to o go to the big business sector. I know of mention is that the Banking system, as it is ,ome weaker sections and poorer people developed over the 17-18 years, is not only md some persons who previously had doing nothing to safeguard the interest of lardly any access to banking loans and to the small investors. There is a follow called >ank credit. But even now, the figures the small investor who runs into lakhs in how that even out of 70% bank credit, the this country. But rather it is contributing to ion's share is helping them further to con- the duping - 1 will say duping - of the small entrate their wealth, to develop their as- investor by promoting public issues which ets and to lead to a concentration of are floated but which are bogus. I have no vealth which is certainly not part of our na- time at my command now because you say ional objectives mentioned in the Directive there is no time. I could have given you fig­ ’rinciples of State Policy in our Constitu- ures to show that the nationalised banks ion. have been promoting and supporting at least 225 public issues which are bogus and MR. CHAIRMAN: You may conclude. in which small investor is duped into putting his money. These companies are SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: There are many floated by dishonest Directors with the as­ uggestions to make. So, there is a mis-di- sistance of the banks and the interest of the ection of Bank credit, in my own opinion. small investors are therefore sacrificed. This Moreover, this credit is being given to such is an aspect into which I would request the jusiness houses whose own share of equity hon. Finance Minister to look because it is rapital in the business in which they own giving the entire banking structure not only md control is virtually nil. This is a fact a bad name but a totally lopsided character. vhich is well known in this country. The Jig business houses like the Tatas, Birias, Sir, I would just enumerate a few sugges­ dafatlal, Singhania, Thapar, Sriram and tions which I wish to make. In the first; joenka are there and the corresponding place, I would say that a Central Banking igures are also there. What is the percent- Authority is required other than the Reserve ige of equity capital which they themselves Bank. The resources of a geographical :ontributed to their own business? All the command area should be pooled with defi­ igures of these big houses which I have nite responsibilities for all-round develop­ nentioned, come to less than one per cent, ment We have got a ridiculous state of af­ he rest is being provided by whom? It is fairs now-a-days you will find that there is >rovided by these banks and financial insti- this Lead Bank Scheme. The Central Bank utions of the public sector. Is this the pur­ of India with its Headquarters in Bombay pose for which Smt. Indira Gandhi spoke of has been made Lead Bank for the district of lational objectives to be pursued in the Darjeeling in West Bengal. The UCO Bank vake of nationalisation? I don't think so. of Calcutta has been made the Lead Bank tnyway, since you are ringing the Bell, I will for some snow-bound district of Himachal >nly mention one or two points. Pradesh. The Syndicate Bank with its Headquarters in Karnataka, is the Lead Bank Sir, as far as this amendment to the ne- for some districts in Haryana. Is there any ;otiable instruments law goes,-about the logic, any sense in all those things? Would {uestion of checks - 1 think the law should anybody ever go into this and find out what >e such that in case it can be established is going on? So, I would suggest that a Cen­ hat this defective check is the result of a tral Bank Authority should be set up to in­ >ona fide mistake, that can be excused. But vestigate and re-organise this whole struc­ n alt cases where it is obviously done delib­ ture and to regulate, monitor, and over-see erately In order to swindle somebody the working of these banks. 459 Banking, Public Finan. DECEM BER1,1988 Neg. Instruments Laws 460 Institution if (Amdt.) Bill [Shri Indrajit Gupta] Somebody has to go into it. Why should there not been scrutiny by some indepen­ dent authority? These sanctioning loans are Secondly, there should be an indepen­ now allowed to write-off the loans. I sane* dent audit system for the banks. You know, tion the loan and then I write-off them say. Sir, the number of frauds is increasing. We ing that it is bad loan or doubtful loan. I do not have to tell the Government as to think, this is a very wrong and harmful mea­ how many bank frauds have taken place in sure. There should be an independent au­ the last few years. thority set up in order to review all these loans and decide which are bad, which are An independent audit system is required. doubtful, which should be written off or not to be written off. About Rs. 200 crores per Thirdly, an overseas Banking Corpora­ annum are being written-off. The Banking tion should be set up with all foreign Directors Board should be re-constituted branches of Indian Banks and Indian with persons having more expertise and Branches of foreign banks. There should be also having some commitment to the public a bank on the collection of public deposits sector. Although there is a system - finally I by private sector companies. You are run­ would say that worker's Directors, employ­ ning a rival banking system to flourish under ees' Directors should be on these Boards. I the private sector and deposits which could know something about that aspect of it have come to the public sector banks are the suggestions and proposals which they being taken away by higher rates of interest have made from time to time are never by so many private companies and specula­ treated seriously and never taken into ac tive financial institutions - non-banking. count and nothing is done about those pro This should be stopped. posals. Many of these proposals I have made have been made by those workers The bank credit to the MRTP and FERA directors also. But who bothers about that? companies should be given at higher rates Nobody bothers because those Boards are of interest. dominated by those people who are the main beneficiaries of the bank credit, that is, The credit to industrial trading houses big business houses, people who have should be linked to their cycles of produc­ made industries sick and who want to take tion. I am sorry, I cannot go into details be­ bad or doubtful debts and get them writter cause there is no time. off. Such type of people are there. I would say finally that this Bill has turned out to be Those industrialists who erode net worth a disappointing Bill because it is just tinker­ of their company and make them sick ing with one or two small aspects of the should not be given any institutional fi­ problem. What is needed is a review and nance. Rather the Directors of these com­ on the basis of review, restructuring of the panies should be black-listed. Do you know whole nationalised banking structure. If this how much bank capital is locked up in is not high time after 17 or 18 years. T dc these so-called sick units which have been not know when it will be high time. made sick by those owners themselves? There are plenty of reports available on [Translation] them. SHRI CIRDHARI LAL VYAS (Bhilwara) There should be an accelerated flow of Mr. Chairman, Sir, I support the Banking credit to the rural sector especially to the Public Financial Institutions and Negotiabk smaller, weaker and poorer sections in­ Instruments Law (Amendment) Bill, 1988. cluding artisans, handloom weavers and other people, Bank should be statutorily I would like to draw the attention of the obliged to disclose the names of the de­ hon. Finance Minister towards its provisions faulting borrowers. Then you have ques­ which are being made in this Bill and to­ tions of bad debts and doubtful debts. wards the shortcomings of the Bill. Some of 461 Banking, Public Finan. ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SA M) Neg. Instruments laws 462 Institution 4 (Amdt.) Bill the hon. Members also mentioned that such in this respect. Due to this reason it be­ provisions should be incorporated in the Bill comes difficult to take any action in respect under which loan can be easily available to of irregularities committed in the accounts the people. Big capitalists deceive the of the banks. At present 70-80 thousand banks and people of this country by misus­ crore rupees deposited by the Central Cov­ ing the funds provided to them by the emment, State Governments and common banks. Therefore a system should be people, are kept in the banks, and what is evolved by which the banks can have full required is to see that how the entire control over the property secured by using money is invested. The Government as well funds provided by the banks. But this con­ as the hon. Members of the House are well trol can be exercised only if the working of aware of the system of working of the bank banks is not proper as the instructions is­ officials. Our Covemment is working for sued by the Directors, Managing Directors the eradication of poverty and launched a or Chairman are not followed and such programme for this purpose but the au­ vested interests are made directors, man­ thorities appointed at district leviel do not aging directors and chairman, who instead pay heed to the public representatives like of working of the profitability of banks or to MLA's or MP's, nor they are allowed to be­ strengthen the reputation of banks oblige come Members lest they should draw the their own kith and kin. 50 it is necessary to attention of the committee towards the make these rules foolproof. grievances of the district or people of their respective in case constituencies or any Shri Ramamurthy gave a suggestion here, other irregularities. It is essentia) to pay at­ which I have been giving for the last 7-8 tention towards the proper implementation years. There is no higher authority of the of the various directions issued to the banks banks who can monitor the affairs of banks. for eradication of poverty and solving the This Parliament has no authority over these problem of unemployment in the country. banks except that we can criticise their Those directions are quite important and I working or tell one or two points to the would, therefore, like to invite your atten­ hon. Minister. A financial committee like tion specially towards this aspect. I have the Public Accounts Committee should be been inviting your attention towards the constituted with the Members of Parliament improper distribution of subsidy portion in on it to go through the working of banks loans sanctioned by the banks under the and which can take action against them in schemes of self employment, IRDP or any the event of bungling. The aforesaid com­ other programme. It is an open secret that mittee should be empowered to taike action the Bank Managers and Development Offi­ wherever irregularities are committed. In cers as well as other employees indulge in the recent years many cases of fraudulent the malpractices. It is very essential to works have come to light that managing di­ check the misuse of funds allocated by Cen­ rectors, managers and high officials of banks tral Covemment for the eradication of have given hundred crores of rupees as poverty. The Covemment will have to take loans to their kith and kin and no amount certain stringent steps to check the irregu­ has been recovered uptil now. larities in the Banks. As it has been indi­ cated, bank officials are involved in various The Covemment neither takes any ac­ malpractices, Shri Ramamurthy has invited tion nor gets the matter investigated against the atteritton towards trade unions that those officials in banks who are involved in these bank officials give recognition and weakening the financial position of the provide every possible assistance to the banks by withdrawing the money from the union of their own choice but discriminate banks on one plea or the other. So it is ut­ against other trade unions. They do not most necessary to make some provision to take sympathetic view of other Trade meet this type of situation. Audit of bank Unions such as INTUC. This is the situation accounts is essential. We have not seen any in the banks where the high posts are held audit reports or any other system enforced t>y those officials who adopt negative atti­ 463 Banking, Public Finan, DECEMBER 1,1988 Neg. Instruments U m 464 Institution 4 (Amdt) Bilt [Shri Girdhari Lai Vyas] When, I was a member of Public Ac­ counts Committee, Chairman of which is tude towards the poor people and the trade also present in the House, we had detected unions, they are totally indifferent to the a case. In that incident the gold sent from poor. Shrimati Gandhi took the revolution­ Bombay to Agra disappeared on its way. ary step to nationalise the banks in order to The persons involved in the incident could help the common people and to improve not be identified and bank authorities their condition. But instead of providing hushed up the whole matter and no action any financial assistance to them they assist was taken against the bank officials. That the capitalists and industrialists. So the gold has not been found till today. Simi­ Government should pay special attention larly, the Government is fully aware of the towards this matter. The hon. Minister incident happened in England, in which a would observe that 70 per cent amount of sum of Rs. 200 crores was withdrawn from loan is sanctioned for the capitalists and the bank but even then no action was taken hardly 30% of it is sanctioned for the poor against the Manager of that bank. The people, including subsidy portion which is Government of India and Reserve Bank of in fact distributed among the bank employ­ India have not initiated any action in spite ees and Government officers and employ­ of such big frauds. What is the reason that ees while the poor people get only loan no action is taken against these culprits? I amount. So, as I had requested earlier also, would like to urge the Covemment to in­ the Government should stop allocating free troduce certain effective legislation. This funds and sanction interest free loan to legislation is not so effective. It involves them to enable them to receive full amount amalgamation of one or two companies and distribution of subsidy amount is only. If there is no need of more than one stopped. It would provide entire benefit to bank then one will do. A supreme authority the poor. It is utmost necessary to make should be set up which should control the such a provision. functioning of all the banks. There is no need to set up various companies. The life Secondly, the institutions like IDBI and style of the managing directors and direc­ others assist or provide loans for sick indus­ tors is more luxurious than that of the tries. There is a bank Director in every insti­ rulers. tution who should try to find out why the big capitalists make the industry sick. These Bank employees and officers get maxi­ capitalists transfer the entire assets some­ mum pay-scales in India but they are the where else and take maximum advantage by people who indulge in maximum bungling. making the industry sick. No action is taken Still the Government find itself helpless in against them and they continue to indulge taking any action against them owing to lack in such activities with fictitious names. of any specific powers. These banks have Bank officials holding high posts and direc­ become the powerful institutions against tors cooperate with them but they are not which the Government cannot take any ac­ sympathetic to the poor. In the light of tion. In the light of these facts, the Gov­ these facts the Union Government should ernment should frame such laws through monitor the functioning of the banks and which their activities could be restricted and take firm action wherever it is necessary. action could be taken against them when­ ever required. Such directions should bt The Government keeps control over its given to the banks through which important exchequer very well. In case a single penny policies of our Prime Minister and the Gov­ is misappropriated from the Government ernment concerning elimination of poverty Exchequer, the high officials are taken to and unemployment could be effectively im­ task and prosecution is launched against plemented. The poor people can be bene­ them under section 420. But no action is fited only if the money in banks is utilised (taken in cases of fraud worth crores of ru­ properly. The Government should evolve pees taking place in banks. such a system by which common people 465 Banking, Public Finan. AGRAHAYANA10,1910(5AJC4) Neg. Instruments Laws 466 Institution 4 (Arndt.) Bill can get adequate amount of loans which [English] would enable them to have an opportunity to become self-reliant. Shri Faleiro himself "It shall not be a defence in a prosecu­ is aware arid we have also repeated the tion for an offence under section 138 that same quite often. I would like to urge hon. the drawer had no reason to believe when Minister of Finance to solve these problems he issued the cheque that the cheque may so that our policies can be implemented ef­ be dishonoured on presentment for the rea­ fectively. if pur policies are not imple­ sons stated in that section.” mented properly, public would dismiss the Government as it happened with the [Translation] Congress Government in the year 1977 and with the opposition in the year 1980. Only What type of section is this? If the inten­ one year is left and the Government should tion of a man is clear, why cannot he defend be positively cautions regarding proper im­ himself? Even the criminal offences commit­ plementation of the policies. The Govern­ ted in our country are viewed in light men- ment should keep strict control over the srea i.e. the intention of the offender. If the function of banks so that the poor people intention of a person is not clear and he could get maximum benefits. wants to deceive somebody then it is all- right. But if his intentions are clear why I would urge the Government to extend cannot be take defence. This point should the banking facilities so that maximum be considered. Besides a provision of one number of persons may avail the benefits. year imprisonment has been made in such cases. The amount can be recovered or a SHRI SHANKAR LAL (Pali): Mr. Speaker, fine can be imposed, but the punishment of Sir, I rise to support the Banking Financial imprisonment does not appear to be ap­ institutions (Amendment) Bill No. 105 propriate. Even a director could be held li­ moved by the hon. Minister. able. Suppose the cheque does not bear the signatures of the director, and if it is dis­ Mr. Speaker, Sir, 13 Acts related to the covered that he is connected with the firm, functioning of various banks are being he can also be held liable. I would urge that amended through a single Bill. It is true that this should be liberalised a bit. If the inten­ it will save time. But at the same time, we tion of a person is clear and he has not wouldn't be able to do justice in discussing done it deliberately, he should have a right the amendments concerning all the 13 Acts to seek defence. and it would not be possible to draw any fruitful conclusion which could be done had Mf. Chairman, Sir, I want to say one there been separate discussion on different thing more. The Reserve Bank of India Act, Acts. 1934 was amended and consequently the Industrial Finance Corporation started get­ Mr. Chairman, Sir, the aim behind na­ ting a loan of Rs. 15 crores. This limit has tionalisation of the banks by Shrimati Indira been increased now I would therefore, like Gandhi and 20 point programme which has to know who are the people who are going been extended under our present leader to be benefited from this increase. There Shri Rajiv Gandhi is to remove, poverty and should be a provision in this Bill that the unemployment. It will have to be seen how amount which exceeds Rs. 15 crores ad­ this aim is accomplished through this vanced to the Industrial Finance Corpora­ amendment. tion should be distributed among small scale industries, cottage industries and the Mr. Chairman, Sir, clause 2, 3 and 4 have unemployees. It should be distributed been amended and it has been stated among the poor because the aim of our therein, that if a cheque is dishonoured the leader and our Party is to remove poverty drawer will be penalised. It has been stated and unemployment. If the Industrial Finance further that he can take no defence. Corporation is allowed to disburse, 467 Banking, Public Finan. DECEMBER 1,1968 Neg. Instruments laws 468 Institution <£ (Arndt.) Bill [Shri Shankar Sal] that no bank follows any advice. The lead bank should control and co-ordinate all this amount also to big industrialists then, banks and if a complaint is received by the as many colleagues have said, we can not committee at the district level that injustice accomplish our task and the very purpose has been done to some body or thefe has would be defeated. It is a good thing that been deliberate delay in advancing the our paid up capital will increase from Rs. loans, they should look into it. Inordinate 100 crores to Rs. 500 crores by this delays and corruption is the order of the day amendment. It is good that such an ar­ there. rangement has been made by amending the State Bank of India Act. The tenure of direc­ Mr. Finance Minister you will have to tors in all the banks and their nomination settle all the common complaints which are process should be uniform so that delays received. Only then, we will be able to ac­ can be checked. When an unemployed complish our aim. I do not want to go into person or a poor man in a village goes to a the details of all the amendments, but I bank for loan he is asked to produce N.O.C. would like to say that provisions and from all the banks of the district specifying amendments should like to say that provi­ that he has not taken any loan. It is true sions and amendments should be made in that he can not take loan from two places at accordance to our objectives because only a time but when he goes to other banks and then will it prove beneficial and in the inter­ agencies to obtain N.O.C they take one or est of our people. two months to issue it and the poor man keeps running from pillar to post There [English] should be a provision that the bank should ascertain on its own if any loan is outstand­ SHRI N. TOMBI SINCH (Inner Manipur): ing against the man. This can be done eas­ Mr. Chairman, Sir, I support this very im­ ily because the agency possesses enough portant Bill. This is as important as the na­ facilities with them. The man who has to tionalisation of banks which was done run from pillar to post knows what type of about 20 years back under the initiative of difficulties he has to encounter. I would like our former Prime Minister, Shrimati Indira to cite an example. There are district indus­ Candhi. Sir, some hon. members have tries committees at the district level through mentioned that this was done only as a which loans are advanced to the unem­ mere 'fanfare.' I do not agree with them at ployed people. Suppose this committee all. This was a very great historical event of approves a scheme for a particular person great significance. and he is asked to contact the bank for loan. But when he goes to the bank they refuse After the nationalisation of the banks, the the loan. There is no co-ordination be­ Government have learnt certain lessons tween the bank and the committee. during the last 19 years. Now they know where the shoe pinches. I want to submit that the programmes of eradication of poverty, unemployment and In fact, there are some regions in this advancing loans are not running success­ country where just like medical conscious­ fully. The speakers who spoke prior to me ness, banking consciousness also is yet to suggested that there should be a parliamen­ emerge. Therefore, in order to make avail­ tary committee to monitor these pro­ able the facilities like bank loans, etc., the grammes and I agree with them but I would Government and the Reserve Bank of India also suggest that the Collector who is the must see to it that this banking conscious* head of the district, M.P. from that area and ness is developed in backward and remote people's representatives should be included areas. These banking facilities should reach in the committee at the district level which the backward and under-developed areas should co-ordinate the activities of all the and the poorest of the poor sections of the banks. The position as it stands today is people. 469 Banking, Public Finan. ACRAHAYANA10, 1910(£4/C4) Neg. Instruments Laws 470 Institution 4 (Arndt.) Bill This Amendment is a very comprehen­ tion. I understand for every 7000 or 8000 sive Amendment It covers 19 important population, this lead bank should have a Acts of banking and financial institutions branch. In a backward State where the and negotiable instrument laws. This is a banking consciousness is yet to start, the very important Act. What I would like to lead bank is not motivating the people and suggest by way of taking part in this debate at the same time, it is not discharging the is that in the backward areas where banking duty of opening of new branches at the rate consciousness hAs yet to start, the role of 7000 population. One bank for every played by the lead banks has to be re­ 7000 population has not come up. So, this viewed. it is in the fitness of things that af­ has to be taken care of in order to see that ter two decades of examination of these the banking facilities should reach there. banking laws, we could have a rethinking - a fresh look - at the functioning of the banks. Now comes the aspect of motivation. The banking consciousness has started in I would like to mention certain impor­ that region very recently. I re­ tant incidents of the failure of the lead member, after independence - three-four banks in my region. Take for example the years after independence - the first lead State of Manipur. There the UBI is the bank was started and that also in a very lead bank. UBI so far, as I understand, meagre state and even that could not suc­ has surrendered so many licenses ceed. When the State Bank of India was gion and it is not allowing other nation­ started in the country, then the local bank alised banks also to open their branches that was started, was taken over and it because it i$ a lead bank. This lead bank started functioning. It took time to motivate has failed to catch up to meet the require­ people, the traders and the people who can ments of that region. invest and who can deposit their money in the bank. This banking practice is very new. Another aspect is that there is a regional Now branches of many of the nationalised rural bank in that State. This covers the en­ banks are there in the State Capital - Im- tire State. The existing law is welcome. phal. I quote this because this will be a pointer to similar cases in similar backward The local language is used for the trans­ areas. But these banks are serving only the actions; that is very good. But it so happens needs of those who are already experts and that the Chairman of the rural bank in that those who are already well established in State is a non-resident of that State. I have trades, such as Marwaries, Punjabis or the nothing against him-about his integrity and outsiders who are already well established all that. But I would say, he cannot simply in commerce and trade. function effectively because he does not know the local language in which the trans­ They are safe, so far as customership is actions and all other things are taking place concerned; the banks are safe with them. in that area. So, I would like to suggest that So, it is not merely the safety which counts; either the Chairman of this lead bank the benefits should also reach other popula­ should learn the local language or a suitable tion, small industrialists, small traders, small person from the same area - there are so entrepreneurs; all these have to be covered many suitable persons; it is for the Covem­ now. We know that it is very difficult for ment to choose from among the available these small entrepreneurs, small people, in­ people - then I think these rural banks will dividuals, even agencies to approach these be able to function better. Then side by nationalised banks and their branches for fi­ side, I would also like to suggest that wher­ nancial assistance. In order to remove this ever lead banks are there in the North-East kind of an handicap for the backward peo­ Region, they are not fulfilling their require­ ple, the government may kindly just look ments so far as the opening of their into it.______branches are concerned. I do not know After the nationalisation of banks, there what is the national percentage of popula­ has been a competition among the nation­ 471 Banking, Public finan. DECEMBER 1,1988 Neg. Instruments Laws 472 Institution (Arndt.) Bill (Shri N. Tombi Singh] Bill is to make it more progressive and im­ prove the banking system of the country. alised banks; competition should always be welcome. But when the competition be­ In every session, we have been experi­ comes unhealthy * I am not an expert in encing that they are trying to amend the banking, but I have heard from bank ex­ laws; and the banking laws are also perts, high officials of different banks from amended to some extent But, in spite of all their own angle that there is an unhealthy this, there is no sign of any achievement in competition - then it becomes difficult. the banking system, no change in the sys­ Some hon. members have suggested that tem; and that is why there is a total unhap­ there should be another authority besides piness in the minds of the people of the the Reserve Bank of India to see that the country about it and they feel that the competition is healthy; and to that end, I modus operandi of the functioning of the would like to suggest that the competition banking system in the country is most un­ should be healthy and it should reach agen­ satisfactory. cies, the people and the level where it is necessary. 16.00 hrs.

In some District Headquarters, in hilly [SHRI SHARAD DlGHE in the Chair] District Headquarters, the branches of the Lead Bank do not work as a banking trea­ If you go on changing the law, amending sury; I do not know the exact technical term the law, in my opinion it will not help, un­ of it. Now when a cheque is passed by a less you consider and train most of the treasury in a hilly town, say, like Okhru- It is people who are involved in it. You are a Hill Capital - from there a person getting manning the train, instead of training the that cheque from that treasury has to go to men. So you must have a broad-based dia­ the State Capital covering 80 kms taking all logue to materialise the policy, the existing the risk. There are District Capitals and policy of the Government. The entire policy small municipal towns in the hilly areas is a total failure. In the banking system in without any treasury banking facility. So, for the country so far as the nationalised bank, these areas also, the Lead Bank should be the lead bank and oth^r rural banks are persuaded to open this facility; if the Lead concerned, the benefits are going to the big Bank is not capable of doing this thing, then business houses and not to the actually de­ some other arrangement should be made. serving persons, the small entrepreneurs. Only last year there had been a lot of killings of State Government officials taking Before coming to the point, 1 must draw money to the district officials. If they are the attention of the House to one thing. On given this facility to open a treasury, then the 18th October, the hon. Minister of State this problem can be solved. They have their Mr. Faleiro invited the members of the own norms .how to carry money and make North-Eastern region to an informal consul­ arrangement for its security and all that. If tative committee meeting at Shillong. I was this is done, then a lot of difficulty of the lo­ lying ill and on receipt of the letter I thought cal people will be removed. There are not that being a public representative I should many District Capitals; I think 3*4 of them be present in the meeting. I had gone from are left out. So, we may persuade the Lead my constituency Kaliabor to Shillong and ul­ Bank to open this treasury facility over timately found that the meeting was neither there. If the Lead Bank fails to cope up with held nor postponed. I sent a chit to the the situation there, I think, it It time that we Minister concerned, who did not even allow should change it. Why can't the State Bank me to see him, while he was in a discussion. be made the Lead Bank of those areas with I dp not know with whom he was dis­ treasury bank facilities and expertise? cussing in the Bell View Hotel or Pine View Hotel. This is the functioning of the Min­ SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI (Kaliabor): istry, so far as the Ministers are concerned. The idea of the proposed amendment of the I do not know what is left to the officers. 473 Banking, Public Finan. ACRAHAYANA10,1910(£4M) Neg. Instruments Laws 474 Institution (Arndt.) Bill Nor did he send any information to the they collect the money from these people, concerned representatives or MPs about the they disappear. This is what is happening. postponement of the meeting. This is one I can quote many instances. There should of the instances of how this Ministry is be a Central Banking Authority to look into working. this matter so that the innocent people who deposit the money either with the private Here you had taken a civil liability by companies or lead bank or with the nation­ Section 138 to criminal liability. But the law alised banks are not cheated. is already there under Section 430 of the In­ dian Penal Code. If a man cheats, dishon­ Now the big business houses like Tatas, estly does anything, he can be dragged to Birlas, and Dalmias are very easily getting the criminal court under Section 420 and bank loans. But the small entrepreneurs do what necessitated them to bring this partic­ not get the loan easily. Thes&'big business ular law, the civil law into a criminal law, I houses are always cheating the Covemment do not know. An existing law is there. The and the people of the country. You cannot man by a bona fide mistake issues a cheque punish them because they escape somehow and for that he cannot be tried. He cannot with your own influence. You cannot give be tried and punished. Of course, I am not any example where a big business house for not punishing any gentleman who com­ has been penalised under the Criminal Law. mits any offence. But I do not find any rea­ This is our experience. son because the law is there under the Pe­ nal Code. Last time also when the Defama­ Sir, in my State, there are about 780 Tea tion Bill came, even though there was an Estates. These Tea Carden owners are en­ existing law already there you brought an­ joying the benefits of the bank as far as the other bill for changing that law. I am not in loans are concerned, but they are not giving favour of this amendment because it will not good wages to their poor workers. In help. It will not help at all; just changing Kachar District, a woman working in the Tea civil liability into criminal liability will not Carden gets Rs. 2.50 per day. They take help. loan for the construction of labour quarters or for the improvement of their tea gardens, A man may commit an offence under the and they divert the money to other indus­ Code of Civil Procedure. For that, he can­ tries. This is what is happening today. not be tried under the Criminal Law. Under There is no agency to control it. Simply if the Banking Law, you cannot bring the Sec­ you go on changing the law, the system tion of the I PC and punish a man. cannot improve. They are jeopardising the policy of the Covemment and there is no Sir, to my utter surprise I found the loans authority which can bring them to book. under IRDP and DRI schemes is not granted But if a small entrepreneur fails to make the to young entrepreneurs or small en­ payment in time, he is harassed and pe­ trepreneurs. Hundreds of cases have been nalised. District Industries Centre is the au­ sent to District Industries Centre for ap­ thority which supervises and submits the proving the loans. The small entrepreneurs report of any project of that district to the have to meet the officials concerned several authority for sanctioning of loan. After ap­ times, but they did not get the loan. A big proval, when we .send the papers to the business man need not meet him at all and banks, they sleep over the matter. In this he gets the loan over a telephonic call. This way, they harass the public. If a tout goes is what is happening in the country. That is to the banking authority, he can very easily why, our country is lagging behind far from arrange the loan. But if a young en­ development. trepreneur, a bona fide person goes for loan, he does not get any loan. So I submit There should be some restriction on the that there should be a Central Banking Au­ private credit companies because they are thority and in every bank there should be a squeezing the poor people. The moment special officer to help the small en- 475 Hanking, Public Finan. DECEMBER 1,1988 Neg. instruments Lam 476 Institution

Pointing out that these centrally- assisted programmes enriched the You are very harsh towards the poor middlemen and bank officials more people for the recovery. But if the same than the pooradivasis...". thing has been done towards the people in the high-up, the black marketeers who get There is a report about Bihar also which from other sources and those who evade says: their income-tax, and the food adultrators, those who want to kill human beings - even "The study said of the 77 households milk is adulterated and the child food is studied in the tribal dominated dis­ adulterated - you are giving them money tricts of Ranchi, Gumla, Singhbhum, through bank. Why don't you black-list Lohardagga and Palamau, 46 benefi­ these people? The young generation is be­ ciaries could not generate any income ing killed due to adulterated food. These from the assets supplied to them un­ kinds of things should not happen. With all der IRDP...”. the money they are ruling the country, fi­ nancial position, economic position is in If further states: their hands. We are on their mercy. We cannot even have pure medicines. Even the "The study said the pronounced child food is not pure. Even the oil which is poverty gap among the Scheduled used daily is adulterated and you are giving Tribe beneficiaries came in their way them money. They have no assets, no capi­ of crossing the poverty line. Assis­ tal and all the money from the banks and tance given to them by way of loan the Covemment which is the public money and subsidy was also very low...”. is with them. These people have no regards (Interruptions) for the nation. They are against the people and these people are flourishing day by day. Sir, the amount was so little that the Adi- Their capital is increasing every month. You vasis could not benefit. The average assis­ should bring a very comprehensive Bill to tance to the 77 beneficiaries amounted to meet our socio-economic needs of the In­ only Rs 1690. only. This is the bank doing dian people. This Bill is amended for so for the poor people. The poverty alleviation many times. And you have said this in your programme is going on. In the rural areas, statement: "Bill further to amend the Nego­ these banks are playing havoc. What hap­ tiable Instruments Act, 1881." I think, India pened to them? When these sorts of things is not so lucky to have its own law for its are going on why don't you arrest them or own people according to the socio-eco- ask the banks to be equally harsh to them nomic condition of the country. Why don't also? you leave out all this? It is all tubbish of 19th century. Why don't you come up with a comprehensive Bill which can meet the THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI S. B. demands of the country according to the CHAVAN): Which bank is this? socio-economic condition of our country? 487 Banking, Public Finan. DECEMBER 1,1988 Neg. Instruments Laws 488 Institution t (Arndt.) Bill [Shri Piyus Tiraky] views of the Hon. Member^ about the working of the banking system. I am very much disappointed with this I must say that a very few of the Hon. amendment. My request is that you have Members have spoken on the Bill as such. many programmes. You think of that. You They have emphasized mostly on the speak on the Floor of the House for the working of the banking system and the kind good of the people, for the poor people and of reforms, adjustments that they would like for the unemployment problem which is to have. I don't think that I will be within going on. To meet all these demands you my right to say that this is beside the point should act accordingly money is completely and that is why it has become irrelevant. It sucked by these people. They are not sin­ will not be proper on my part to say that. cere for the development of the country. But at the same time I cannot possibly reply They are only sincere for their own self and to all the points which the Hon. Members for their own pocket. They can do anything have made. That is why I thought it neces­ for profit They have no check. They want sary that instead of my replying today, it will only money. Even the generations can be be better if I were to reply tomorrow so that killed. But they want money at any cost. some of the points which the Hon. Mem­ Such people are very much benefited. You bers have made, I will be able to do some must have to look towards this very sin­ kind of a justice. cerely. All the schemes and programmes, everything is going to fail because of want of This debate has to go on till about 5 p.m. money. Your Covemment is giving more I think it will be fit and proper on my part to incentives to import things and to get their see that I reply to the^debate upto 5 p.m. industries modernised. You have to think and thereafter seek your permission to reply about that. Everybody wants to have mod­ to the rest of the points by tomorrow. ernisation. Common people Should not be kept behind. These people should be equally allowed to modernise themselves. So far as the Amending Bill is concerned, You have a sort of check on the gold. But I cannot possibly say that it is a comprehen­ what is happening everyday? Tonnes of sive Bill which takes into account the condi­ gold is coming smuggled. For the poor tions prevailing in the country and the so­ people's marriage, they don't have gold and cio-economic objectives at the time of bank they are harassed. This kind of thing is go­ nationalisation which was announced b) ing on in our every day life. the Late Smt. Indira Candhi. Whether the entire gamut is going to be covered by this Banking system is the main source from Bill, well I had never claimed that it is foi where people can get their capital. So, you that purpose. That is why I could see the have to bring a comprehensive Bill leaving point that comprehensive bill, as the Hon out ail the unimportant points and concen­ Members have talked about, will have to be trating on the improvement of the socio­ considered at its proper stage. economic condition of the country. The public money should be put to proper use But there is a case for going into the en­ for the good of the common people and the tire thing, studying the entire objectives and nation. whether the banking system has been able to come to the rescue of the members oi THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI S. B. the society, who in fact have been neglected CHAVAN): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I must ex­ so far. It is a matter on which we will have press my gratitude to all the Hon. Members to consider separately and bring a compre­ on both sides of the House for expressing hensive legislation which will cover all as­ their views very candidly. In fact, at the fag pects of the question. end of my speech I had made a special mention that besides the Amending Bill l At this stage one thing which I think is will be very much interested in getting the absolutely necessary for me to clarify. That 489 Banking, Public Fman. ACRAHAYANA 1 0 ,1910(SA/C4) Neg- Instrum ents Lam 490 institution 4 (Arndt) Bill is about - only one part I have done - Mr. collapse. That is why it is absolutely neces­ Chairman, you were also pleased to observe sary that for honest person he should not and other Hon. Members were of the same be penalised but all those people who in view, why Is it that the government is spite of the fact that notice is given to him thinking in terms of penalising all those who somehow or other there is not enough by mistake seems to have issued a cheque money in your bank account please see you and thereafter the cheque bounces or not make good whatever the difference and in­ honoured. Inspitfe of the fact that there is a spite of that also if the person were to fail provision under 420, why is it that the Cov­ then I do not think that any other conclu­ emment is thinking of penalising the same sion can be drawn than the one which we person under this Amending Bill. I should have drawn, namely, that he will have to be say it is a valid point which might occur to prosecuted and that too none else has the any Member who is interested in authority to prosecute the person than the smoothening the entire process of banking. person in whose name the cheque has been First of all we have to make a very clear dis­ issued. If he were to complain then only tinction with regards to persons who are the complaint can be filed and then one can honest; by mistake they may have issued a be prosecuted and it is for the courts to take cheque knowing or not knowing that the the decision. balance is not available in their account.

I think if you are to read the entire pro­ cedure which has been laid down under this SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: Sir, breach of Section that will make the position abso­ contract has never been made penal so far lutely clear. There is a validity period of six in India. Now breach of contract becomes months unless it is written somewhere that penal where there is an element of cheat­ it is less than six months. So within six ing. Under Section 420 of the I PC wherever months the cheque which has been issued there is an element of cheating, breach of has to be honoured by the person or at the contract or mens rea then it becomes penal time of presentation of the cheque. After and punishable. Therefore, if a cheque is that if the bank would tell him that there is dis-honoured and if the court finds there is not enough money in the account of the an element of cheating and mens rea is person who has issued this cheque then a there he is made punishable but where notice is given by the person who is the re­ there is no mens rea breach of contract has ceiver of the cheque. He is also allowed not been made punishable. Now for the sufficient time to say whether it was by mis­ first time you are singling out breach of con­ take; whether he did not know or he had tract with reference to cheques only as pe­ some other reason due to which he thought nal. Article 14 requires that there should be that the money is available there and that is equal treatment and equality. Clause of why he issued the cheque. equal treatment must stand. A promisory note contains an unconditional undertaking Ultimately what we are interested is to that he will pay on demand the amount but make the cheque system popular and let if he i* not able to pay the amount it does the cheque system be in vogue. not become a penal offence. So also is the case with contractual offences and contrac­ 16.57 h r* tual obligations. There are any amount of contracts which are processed through the (MR. D fPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair] system of banking. Then you have to bring all those contractual relations which have If the feeling were to go amongst the got affected on the banking system as penal people that the cheques can be issued; they offences. This is the important point which can be honoured, dis-honoured or it can has been sought to be made out by Shri bounce then, of course, the entire banking Madhav Reddi also. Therefore, that may be system which in fact is built on this will itself kept in mind and you may give the reply. 491 Banking, Public Finan. Institution DECEMBER 1,1988 Oise. under Rule 193 492 # Neg. Instruments Laws (Arndt,) Bill (Shri E. Ayyapu Reddy] could not help it; then, of course, ultimately it is for the Magistrate of the first class or the Metropolitan Magistrate to go to the ex­ tent of almost penalising him up to double 17.00t»rs. the amount and with an imprisonment of one year, separately or both. This is the In feet, we even thought this aspect of power which has been given to the courts. the question. If the mens rea is established, already section 420 is available under which MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You may con- he can be prosecuted. There should be no tinue next time. difficulty about it. But it is bound to take considerable amount of time. If the banks have to wait or the payee has to wait till he 17.04 hrs. gets something from the court, then, I am sure, that the entire banking system will DISCUSSION UNDER RULE 193 collapse. That is why we just wanted to find a middle way by which some kind of fear [English) will have to be instilled in the minds of those people who issue the cheques that if we don't do it, we can be prosecuted. It is Dismal Performance of Indian Sportsmen in Seoul Olympic Games not always that they are going to be prose­ cuted. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The House will now take up discussion under Rule 14*3 to SHRI AZIZ QURESHI: Who will pay the be raised by Shri C. Janga Reddy. Mrs. Mar­ expenses of the prosecution - the bank or garet Alva is not well. She has suddenly got '•the payee? sick. Now Mr. Santosh Mohan Dev is tak­ ing down the notes. Cabinet Minister, Mr. SHRI S. B. CHAVAN: Actually the person Shiv Shanker, will be coming. He is now in who, in fact, is the aggrieved party. I don't the Rajya Sabha. After that, he will take the think that the person who tesues the notes. cheque can be an aggrieved party. The ag­ grieved is the person who received the cheque. And after going to the bank, if he is [Translation] being told that there is not enough money in his account or there is no money in his SHRI C. JANGA REDDY (Hanamkonda): account at aH, then the person, who has is­ Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, after every sued the cheque, gives’ a notice saying: Olympic games, we have a discussion on Though you have issued the cheque in my this subject in this House. What is the rea­ name, there is no money in your account. son that we cannot win gold medals? Not Please try to make it good." only this, we could not even obtain entry into many games. We have constantly After giving him full opportunity to make drawn your attention towards it. Have you good the money which he has written on ever thought how we are performing in the the cheque, if he fails to do the same, then, games? In the recent games at Seoul we of course, he gets the right to prosecute the could not win even a single medal out of person. There is a higher judicial authority 711 medals. Leave aside the gold medal, also. Metropolitan Magistrates have been we could not even get a bronze or a bra*^ specially empowered under this Act so that medal. After all, what is the reason? Wt an honest person, who, somehow or the are lagging behind in the games. other could not fulfil all these conditions even in the court of law, is able to establish that there were very valid reasons due to SHRI INDRAIH CUPTA: There is no which he had to issue the cheque but he brass medal. 493 0/«c. unc tar Rul$ 193 AGRAHAYANA10,1910(5MA) Disc, under Rule 193 494

SHRI C. JANGA REDDY; Sports has new directions to the country and the Lok come to such a state because myself and Sabha, Shri Rajiv Gandhi, is taking the coun­ o u r Hon, Minister are not sportsmen. try backwards by formulating these new policies. He is cheating the people. What THE MINISTER OF HUMAN RESOURCE is the reason behind this? There are federa­ DEVELOPMENT (SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER): tions and sports councils in our country but You have played many games. no attention is paid in this direction. All the funds spent from the Government exche­ SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: I played games quer go waste. The Government wants to in my childhood. I do not dare to play them interfere in everything, including the selec­ now, After you become Minister, we have tion of players. Hon. Minister keep on started running away. changing their guidelines for 3-4 times in a period of 4 years and send their own people SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER: You are playing to other countries. This is why our country the wrong game. had to face a defeat in Seoul and was let down, The hon. Minister is not present in SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: Not wrong, we the House today because she is feeling are playing the right game to bring you shame. I feel that for delivering a speech or down- for speaking before us

SHRI MANQJ PANDEY (Bettiah): You are [English] far away from the games, SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER: I understand SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: We will play that she is running temperature of 104 deg. such a game that you will not come to C. It is unfair. She will herself reply. Do power again* We are playing such a game; not surmise like this. You always think otherwise, play foul and therefore, you speak in bad taste in this [Translation] House. I want that we should win medals SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: All rfcht. A in the Olympic games at least once, Asiad Minister is holding this portfolio for the last was held in p«r eeuntry. Rt< 15 crores were four years and our country's performance is Spent en it What did we gain after spend­ worsening since then, she should at least ing Rs, 15 crores? New stadia were con­ immediately resign, structed and you turned the so called poor people into fey granting them SHRI AJAY MUSHRAN (Jabalpur): Will P. contr*^. We built the Asiad village hut we T. Usha win a gold medal if the Minister re­ could not win any gold medal We have not signs? won any gold medal in the last 4 years. We know that India has won gold medal in SNW C JANGA REDDY: No, you will Hockey eight times continuously but this win one. At the time when Shri Lai Bahadur time we could qualify ter entry in the Shastri was the Minister of Railways, was he next Olympics. What i§ tKfi reason for this? the driver of thfc train which had met with The reason is that we are getting no results the accident then* This is a matter of one's out of the expenditure incurred by our G ov­ principle. Shri Sanjiva Reddy who was the ernment. Shri Rajiv G a n ® has brought Chief Minister had to resign owing to the new policies in the last 4 years viz, Textile decision of the Supreme Court in the matter Policy, Education Policy, Sports Policy etc. of Road Transport Nationalisation. and he Is flooding the country with these new policies. Due to the new textile policy, SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER: The Chief the cotton growers, textile workers and Minister Whom you are supporting, has handioom workers are in trouble and simi­ been indicated by the High Court in 6 cases. larly, sports men are also in trouble. It is In spite of that it is said that I care two observed in every thing. Instead of giving a hoots for the High Court 495 D isc, under Rule 193 DECEMBER 1,1988 Disc, under Rule 193 496

[English) Court declared that he had done so for some personal purpose. Although the court SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: Why never mentioned about his resignation, he should you bring the Chief Minister of did resign... (interruptions) Andhra Pradesh here? SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER: He was the Chief Minister of Congress, not yours. [Translation]

SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: He may be from SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: Raghuma Red- dyji, I will give a reply to them. What is the any party, but my submission is that what reason that all the Congress Members from will be the fate of 80 crores people of our Andhra Pradesh try to threaten N.T.R. dur­ country if you refuse to resign in spite of ing their visit to Gujarat and Maharashtra? such a repeated dismal performance for not You people want to remove N.T.R. by im­ once, twice or thrice but for 4 times? posing ** as a Governor there. If there (Interruptions) Shri has a bright future but were six charges against N.T.R. in th* High our own honour is at stake. We have no fu­ Court, we will prove 16 against Shri Rajiv ture. Therefore, I want that she should re­ Gandhi in the Supreme Court. High Court sign. Today, efforts are being made to gov- is nothing. (Interruptions) Mr. Deputy emmentalise the sports and they want to Speaker, Sir, I have to give a reply because keep them into their own hands. This our hon. Cabinet Minister has himself should not happen. The Government has brought the name of N.T.R. here... framed guidelines in this regard but if in {Interruptions) spite of that our country has to loss the gold medals, than those guidelines should be SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER: When you talk changed and it should be considered as to about us, you should also mind your lan­ what plan should be formulated for the fu­ guage. Does it behove you to say ture. etc.?** (Interruptions) There are 6 lakh primary schools, 1.5 SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: This not so. lakh upper primary schools and 70 thou­ Shikhandi does not imply in Indfo but sand high schools in our country but there you have formulated such a scheme. The is not even a single physical instructor Governor is not under the Government and there, nor is there any play-ground. So you want to harass the Government by what steps if the Government taking in this keeping him there. (Interruptions) Shri Lai direction? Besides granting grants, ail facili­ Bahadur Shastri gave his resignation when ties like ptey-grounds should be provided by the train accident took place. Why did he the Government. While miking selection do so? (Interruptions) My submission is for sports, you think over it in isolation and that in order to save the honour and pres­ do not try to prpyide facilities for sports. In tige of the country as well as to raise it» comparison to other ceMOtries not even a glory in the world, the Government should single paise per capita is befora spent on rise above politics while selecting players, sports in our country. We find that them end send good sportsmen there. The hon. are no physical instructor* in our schools, Minister of looking after this Ministiy for the Out of the funds being provided by the Cen­ last four years but as regards winning gold tre, some funds should be given to the medals, our country's performance is States also. Just as the Government has in­ worsening, if our hon. Cabinet Minister troduced Hindi Courses in the upper-pri- looks into this matter he will come to know mary schools in order to encourage Hindi, of it. That is why I am demanding her similarly the post of physical instructor resignation. When Shri Sanjiva Reddy had should be made compulsory In upper pri­ nationalised the transport, the Supreme mary schools or at least in middle schools.

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During our school times, there used to be 2 district and taluka levels. I also want to physical instructors in each school but after submit that the sports other than cricket are 40 years of independence, their number has not given much time on T.V. Cricket has a come down. Why is this so? Earlier the monopoly there. Therefore cricket should standard of physical education used to be be done away with. The Members who are good but now it is gradually declining. Ef­ supposed to sit in the House always remain forts should be made to promote it. I busy in watching cricket matches on T.V. would like to know the total expenditure They come to the House only when there is made on sports upto the Sixth Plan. It a bell ringing. Due to so much of Cricket on works out to be Rs. 11 crores, which means T.V. and radio, the children are also trying an expenditure of Rs. 40 lakh per annum. to play it. Cricket has to be played through How can this help? An amount of Rs. 200 out the day and thus a lot of time is wasted. crores has been earmarked in the Seventh Smaller sports like, hockey, volley ball, bas­ Plan. Some funds should be allocated to ket ball should be encouraged. We have no the States also for spending through the grounds to reach the Olympic level. That is sports federations and different sports insti­ why we lose in the Olympics. Hockey is tutions. You have spent Rs. 300 crores and played an artificial grass made of plastic. out of that only Rs. 10 crores have been There are only 2-3 such grounds in our spent through the Centre's Sports Council, country whereas in other countries their ^jthority or Institution. Therefore, my number is very high and the. sportsmen submission is that the entire funds should there play on those grounds only. We have be distributed among the States and sta­ no plastic platforms for wrestling matches dium should be constructed in every Dis­ whereas in other countries they have such trict. A number of stadia have been con­ platforms numbering 300-400. At least we structed in Delhi, which remain unutilized should have them at district level. If we and the meetings of the Congress (I), B.J.P, want to reach the Olympic level, then a lot Janata Party and Lok Dal are held there. My needs to be done and I feel that these facili­ submission is that the Government should ties should not be limited to urban areas provide for the construction of a stadium in alone but should reach the rural areak too. each District Centre and make sports an es­ Stadia should be constructed and facilities sential part of the primary schools so that provided at district level. Since in spite of sports facilities reach the rural areas too. In spending so much money for 4 years we a country like Russia at least 25 per cent had to face a defeat, I demand the resigna­ participate in sports but in our country with tion of the hon. Minister of Sports. a population of 80 crores, only 5 to 6 lakh people take part in sports. [English]

I would like to make another point that SHRI AJAY MUSHRAN (Jabalpur): Mr. /Cricket is played throughout the year and is Deputy Speaker, I am thankful to you for played in Only 7-9 countries of the worid. giving me about 10 odd minutes on this Rule 193 discussion. It is a fact that the [English] performance of the Indian sportsmen and women have been rather dismal. First I DEPUTY SPEAKER For the full de- would highlight this dismal performance as Ntl* W# tjave allowed two hours. You have to how our sportsmen have figured. already taken 15 minutes, f liave given you the maximum time. In Athletics, Mercy Kuttan entered the Ifscpnd round and finished last, Shiny Abra­ [Translation] ham, finished sixth in first round heat of the 800 metres, P.T. Usha (400 M hurdles) Sev­ SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: I would like to enth and last in first round, 1600 M relay submit that sports facilities should reach team (Mercy, Vandana Rao, Vandana Shan- villages and stadia should be constructed at bagh, Shiny) finished Seventh and last in 499 Disc, under Rule 193 DECEMBER 1,1908 Disc, under Rule 793 500

{Shri Ajay Musran] In Hockey, we were sixth, out of the 12 teams which participated. flvvt round. Ashwani Nachappa was the stand-by in relay. In Shooting, Soma Dutta finished 23rd in In Archery, Limba Ram, finished 39th in free pistol and 30th in air rifle. the overall, Sanjeeva Singh, finished 40th in the overall and Shyam Lai Meena finished In Swimming, Khazan Singh (200 butter­ 72nd in the overall. fly) finished fifth among seven in 1st heat. He was getting training in Australia for In Boxing, we did fairly well. years.

Table Tennis

Kamlesh Mehta (singles) Fourth in prelim, group

Sujay Chorpade (singles) Seventh in prelim, group

Niyati Roy (singles) Last in prelim, group

Mehta & Chorpade (doubles) Fourth in prelim, group

Tennis

Vijay Amritraj (singles) Lost in first round.

Zeeshan Ali (singles) Won first round, lost in second-

Vijay & Anand (doubles) Won first roupd, lost in second.

Weightlifting

C. Muthuswamy (52 kg) 1]^ overall

R. Chandrasekharan (52 kg) 19th overall

Wrestling

Rajesh Kumar (48 kg) Ninth pyerall

Kuldeep Singh (52 kg) Ninth overall (others have no placing)

Yachting

Farookh Tarapore & Kelly Rao 17th overall (470 class)

Now, this is the performance, which is ulot* the government far two factors, absolutely dismal, fcjfty*, tf fer m th* gov- Firstly, over th# years, the planned expendi- emmenf» csncefBfit | will like to congrat' ture far sports and the creation of an envi- 501 Disc, under Rule 193 ACRAHAYANA10,1910(£VC4) Disc, under Rule 193 502 ronment for sports by having ASIAD INDIA 97782 dollars were released by the govern­ 1982 an atmosphere was created in the ment for their expenditure on boarding, country where all sportsmen and sports lodging and exigency. The expenditure by women in large numbers in the younger the Air India was to the tune of Rs. section should have come up. So far as the 16,2,4980 for 47 competitors, 18 team offi­ money is concerned, there was no dearth. cials and 9 IOA representatives. What was The people who are to be blamed are we, the need of sending 27 officials for 46 sports because wherever we went including the men? It is not in the hands of the Sports Sports Minister * I was also a Sports Minis­ Ministry; it is in the hands of the IOA. ter in a State - the only demand was to When it comes to the question of selecting make a stadium for them. We did not re­ a team, if some genuine sports man has alise that by making a stadium it did not im­ been left out and if the government tries to prove the performance or the standard of intervenue, the Sports Minister - I remem­ athletes, sportsmen, players and whatever ber for sure; it came out in the paper also - you have. So far as money is concerned, was condemned by saying that you are in­ from Rs. 13 crores it went upto Rs. 30 tervening with the autonomy of the Federa­ crores; and then from Rs. 30 crores it went tion; and when the Federation chose their upto Rs. 150 crores; and from Rs. 150 crores team, this is a dismal performance which it went upto Rs. 200 crores and now it is Rs. we have just seen. 250-260 crores; this has been the outlay in this Ministry over the last Six Five Year Plans. Look at the description of our team So, I do not blame the govefamcfht at all. It which went out. we took an athlete who is a very political unfortunate move to call had won laurels in the Asian Tournament for the resignation of the Sports Minister; four years ago. A stage came when Milka and what's Mr. Janga Reddy has said is this. Singh had also said about that athlete. If the Sports Minister's resignation could Now, nobody knows about athletics more improve the standard of the players, I will than Milka Sjngh particularly for 400 metres; say that every Sports Minister should resign, and Milka Singh had said that this athlete But it is not so. In spite of encouragement had reached her peak; and in spite of the financial job-wise and environment-wise, fact that we took her, not only sne had not these sports women and men in our coun­ passed her preliminary test but she was not try have not been able to perform better. physically fit and still she was taken, be­ There may be some fault, but it cannot be at cause, I am told, hy people who were in the government level. Look at the standard Seoul that the Olympic Association of Seoul of administration by various federations and had promised $10,000 to every athlete who association. They are rigged with politics. takes part in the Olympics and wears a par­ Some of the magazines have said that politi­ ticular logo. A logo is the sign of particular cians have entered the Association and firm which equips and dresses these ath­ spoiled it, It I* not so. It is the internal letes. Just to get that $1Q,00Q the at|ilet£ politics of these association! and federa­ went there- put, not only the athlete went, tions which has marred the atmosphere; but her prime coach also went. And look at and they want to bring thejr favourites their discipline. We are talking of the Gov­ sports women and men tp represent thp ernment. Mr. Janga Reddy was talking only country outside and the best boys do not of the Government. But look at their disci- come. It Ii the Aispeialten*' and th# ||nf. Shri K p. Singh peo, an hop. Mem- federations' Chiefs whp should nPt pnly er of this was the Chief de Mission and made to resign but they should be sacked there was some problem as to who out of also; and the entire administration pf the six athletes should make the relay team. I Federations should be taken over by the charge him with leniency. If I were in his government, place, I would have sent the whole lot of them back to India by the first plane and Look at the jpwemment's contributipn not make them take part in those games. towards our team which went to Seoul. They were trying to dictate to the Chief de 503 Disc, under Rule 193 DECEMBER 1,1988 Disc, under Rule 793 504

[Shri Ajay Mushran] coaches, and why should so may big offi­ cials go? Why should so many go? Forty- Mission who was supposed to be head of seven athletes! Why should we represent in our team, comprising 47 competitors 27 su­ every game in which we are going on lose? pernumeraries who were of no use at all, and who brought these standards of per­ I have some suggestions to make. My formance. And what performance qualifica­ first suggestion is that all sports should be tions we have! A person who has achieved graded as major and minor and whether it is the timing of the sixth place in the previous hockey, or foot-ball or athletics or wrestling Olympics will be taken into account. You or weight-lifting, wherever we are likely to know, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, that the men's do well, we should declare them as major world record of 100 metres in Melbourne sports and in those games where we are Olympics is equalled today in Seoul by the not going to do well, pistol-shooting, Women's 100 metres record. This is the swimming where we are nowhere, we progress, leaps and bounds by which the should declare them as minor. timing are being improved upon and we are adhering to the Sixth place! And even this I think our men athletes should start sixth place, with timings achieved by our competing with the female athletes of East people who had the highest training of all Germany and still they will not win. You sorts, all battery improvements were done can see their timing. If that is the perfor­ and everything was done by the Govern­ mance, why should we send them at all? ment. But still they have not been able to achieve that standard the sixth place. Do not expose them to a competition of a level which they should be ashamed of I will recommend to all the federations, going. Look at China. China has no sta­ that it should be mandatory for them and dium except Peking and two other cities. the Government should have the control They have only three stadiums in the entire that unless that standard is achieved, at country just three times larger than us. least bronze medal timings of the previous They have no stadium and they have won Olympics a person should not be selected. so many medals. They have not exposed And if any athlete commits any act of mis­ their athletes and their table tennis players demeanour there, or misbehaves with the to the world competition, for the last 20 Chief de Mission, if any such things happen, years and when they entered, they entered they should not only be punished; if they with a bang. have get a job in the Government - because of their being sportsmen - they should be So, may I suggest that the games should sacked from the job, because for sportsmen be categorised not by the wealth that is discipline comes first and performance later. spent but by the actual resources of com­ petitors which the country's population And look at the amount of money they throws up in a particular game; where w§ have earned. From the last Asiad at Seoul can do something so far as international till this Olympics, for two years, I think that sports are concerned. particular athlete got lot of money. I was the person who said the one of the trains My second suggestion is that only a per­ running from that town should be named af­ son who has been sn olympian should be ter her. Every State Government gave lakhs qualified tp become the President of a par­ of rupees but this is the performance. I ticular Federation. would have taken my hats off for that ath­ lete, if she would have said, "Look, I am not The sports environment in the country physically fit, I am not going." But she just which had been generated by the Asian has went because of the $10,000. I feel very gone in vain. We have learnt more of the much agitated at the performance of our ceremonies, Closing Ceremony, Opening sportsmen and women. Why so many Ceremony, Girls coming with flowers, Prize 505 Disc, under Rule 193 AGRAHAYANA10,1910(54/04) Disc. under Rule 193 506

Ceremony, and we are not worried about who does not achieve a particular distance timings, etc. I suggest that in ail national or timing, should not be given Higher Sec­ competitions, we should not have all these ondary Certificate because that is the way ceremonies, and the Chief Guest can come you can create physical awareness, which is and say 'I declare the tournament open' and very necessary. So, I would suggest that at let the tournament be shown. the school stage itself, we must give full concentration for sports development; oth­ Grounds, pools and other infrastructure erwise the dismal performance will not be which have been made are sufficient. I am stopped. The best way to stop is not to saying sufficient because whatever available take part in them till we are fit. had not been as I made use of. In the main stadium in Munikh, Olympic Games took SHRI M. RACHUMA REDDY (Nalgonda): place. The occupancy of that stadium is 670 Mr. Deputy-Speaker Sir, after every per cent. It means, if it has the capacity to Olympics, this sort of post-mortem and train one hundred people on the track and search for scapegoats is on. This is a regular the field events, them 670 people are being phenomenon, which we are witnessing ev­ trained everyday in shifts. That should be ery year. the scale, at which all stadiums, play grounds and tracks should be made use of. Sir, I fully agree with the hon. speaker The main thing try is to catch young people. who just preceded me. Who is responsible Unfortunately a person who is considered for the dismal performance? I do not think as young. (Interruptions) only the Madam Minister is responsible for this. The entire country is responsible for MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Only when they this; parents are responsible for this; are employed, they are selected. schools are responsible for this; Universities are responsible for this; everybody is re­ SHRI AJAY MUSH RAN: I have seen in sponsible for this. One should take the re­ today's newspaper that we have selected an sponsibility. The Sports Authority, the old man of 37 years as the captain of our Sports Councils and the Federations should Tennis team. I quite understand that he has be made responsible. I am told that Gov­ been playing for India for twenty five years. ernment does not have any control over For God's sake, let him live in peace. these federations. This is the most unfortu­ (Interruptions) nate state of affairs. I request the hon. Minister to have some control over these MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please conclude. bodies. Only then they will be able td pro­ duce good results. SHRI AJAY MUSHRAN: I have also be­ come old, but I can speak. (Interruptions) As my friend has just said, we are spending nearly Rs. 230 crores on sports. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: A young man But where is this money going? There Mr. Reddy is going to speak. Please listen should be some accountability. The State to him. Governments are also spending large amounts on sports. But I am sorry to say SHRI AJAY MUSHRAN: Sir, in olden that these sports are confined to urban ar­ days, all the sports men and women belong eas only. We have lot of talent in rural ar­ to either Universities or Police or Private eas. But nobody goes there to search for sector undertakings. Railways and others the talent. Every year, you have Nehru Yu- came later. vak Kendras in some of the districts. But are they functioning well? Are they picking I would suggest that maximum impor­ up talents from rural areas for sports? They tance should be given to the sports at the are not doing that job. There should be an school stage itself and sports should be in­ independent authority to take up all these cluded as a compulsory subject. Anybody things. I do not think, the federations are 507 Disc. under Ruie 793 DECEMBER 1,1988 Disc. under Rule 193 508

[Shri M. Raghuma Reddy] With regard to hockey, we lost our supremacy in hockey. Sir, I will quote here taking care of these things. It is a pitiable from the same magazine. Ashwini Kumar thing that after spending so much amount said this-not now, in 1976. He said: "... we you could produce only 27 people who have to get foreign coaches for artificial could go to the Olympics, from among a surfaces. Everyone laughed at me. Today population of nearly 80 crores. Even small you see the result". This is what he said. is lands got gold medals. We did not get Though we have the skill our players have even a bronze medal. Who is the skill, but we lack some technicalities responsible for this dismal perfor­ which the present day hockey requires. But you have not cared for that. What are your mance? My good friend, Mr. K. S r Singh plans, I do not know. So, I request the hon. Deo, had gone there as Chef de Mission. I Minister, the hon. House to take note of do not blame him. In some newspapers these things. I am not going to ask for the many things have appeared. I would like to resignation of the hon. Minister or others quote India Today7 of 15th October, 1988 but I want that everybody should take the in this connection. It said: humiliation to heart. "First of all, P. T.Usha finished a dis­ tant last in the heat for the 400 metres I request the hon. Minister that in hurdles... and was promptly asked to schools also you have to make it a regular run a trial with Usha. She refused to subject. You can take it up with all the State do that despite Chef De Mission K. P. Governments. When I was a student, there Singh Deo's threat to send her to In­ used to be some drill period or games pe­ dia on the next available flight. "We riod. But now there is no such thing. Be­ have told Mr. Singh Deo if she goes cause of these Convent schools, small kids back all of us go back as well", said have to carry large number of books but another member of the relay team." they find no time for sports. These Convent and private schools do not have even play­ This is the control that we have over our grounds. That is the state of affairs. We do players. Then at another place, it is said: not require many stadia but we require at least playgrounds for the children to play, in "Here we can't even respect ourselves all the urban areas and in all the rural areas. as human beings. And you.expect us These should be funded by the Covemment to win medals?" of India with the consultation of State Gov­ ernments. If we take it up, we will be going If this is the sort of discipline, why ahead. should you take them abroad at all? Why are you spending this public money on Lastly, about Andhra Pradesh also there them? Spend this money on rural talent. was promise from the Sports Council that There are a number of fishermen who are every district headquarter will have a sta­ very good swimmers. But you have to select dium. But very few are having. If you are them. You have to give some sort of coach­ kind enough, you can sanction some ing to them. But that is not done. There are matching money from the Government of many brave people who can swim across India. The State Government also will give the river or sea. something. In all the district headquarters, where there are no Nehru Yuvak Kendras we SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: There are should have a stadium, at least in the dis­ some people who can swim between Sri trict headquarters. So, that should be taken Lanka and Tamil Nadu. care of... (Interruptions). Not only in Andhra Pradesh. The Minister says that financial re­ SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: But we do sources are there. So, it can be taken up in not select these people. That is the thing every district of the country. That is my re­ you are having. quest, Sir. 509 Disc, under Rule 193 AGRAHAYANA1 0 ,1910(SA/CA) Disc, under Rule 193 510

Anyhow, i wish in the next Olympics at views of the Government of India that It least we should get a bronze medal. ' should be made a Centre subject and let no one intervene. I repeat that no one should intervene in the functioning of this Sports SHRI DICVIJAYA SINGH (Rajgarh): Hon. Body. I strongly disapprove of the degree of Deputy Speaker, Sir, the one positive aspect interference in the Sports Association. I of our dismal failure consistently in strongly advocate a total ban on the Associ­ Olympics and Asian Games is the general ation and federations and all these should awareness and general consciousness of our be taken up under the Sports Authority sports programme and sports needs overall competence and I agree with the throughout the country, whether it is inside hon. Member, Shri Mushran when he said the Parliament or outside the Parliament. that there should be a certain level of par­ And fully conscious of that, I congratulate ticipation of the person who wants to rep­ our Prime Minister for having raised the resent this Sports Body. I do not know A, B, sports allocation to a fairly high level. But C or D of a game. But through manipula­ then, as very rightly pointed out this is not tion, I can become Chairman of the Associa­ all. There are certain basic points which we tion. What association and what love I have have to take into account. Some conscious got for the sports. Let there be a level, say decisions have to be taken at the top level any person who participated at the State so that an overall development of sports in level let him be eligible to represent in the this country could take place. I am not one sports body. Let him look after the basic of those who yvould run down our present policy decision. It has to be taken to im­ athletes or sportsmen or sportswomen who prove the sports. The talent scouting cannot may not have fared very well in the last be done by sitting here in Delhi. You have Olympics or the Asian Games because you to hunt for the talents down to the village have to take the whole thing in the right level, school level, etc. I don't why there is perspective-under what circumstances were no school competition, at the block level, at they trained, under what circumstances the district level and in the State level and could they perform, what help could they national level. Why should we hold a na­ get from our Government so that they could tional competition or national level tourna­ perform better. So, let us not run down ment always in different districts and in dif­ what these sportsmen and sportswomen ferent State capitals which do not have the have achieved on their own. The point is if facilities. A poor country like ours cannot we want to plan, we have to plan for the afford to build sports complexes in each next decade. I would broadly bring out State or in every district, with our meagre points which should be taken into consider­ resource available. I strongly disapprove of ation. The number of competitions which the Government decision, that is, I am told are there in the Asian Games and in the that they want to develop infrastructure in Olympic games we do not have to compete every district. Let us not waste our valuable in all of them. Let us not know about each resources on this. We have got wonderful one of them. Let us confine ourselves to sport complexes in Delhi which we built those which suit the Indian environments during Asian Games. But to what capacity and let us confine ourselves and develop are we utilising it? Let us develop residential excellence in those sports. After having schools and colleges around their complex done that, the next point is talent scouting and pick up boys and girls at that level at the age when they have already reached through talent scouts at that level. They their peak. We are scouting them at this age should be brought here to Delhi and their when we have to do selection for the Asian schooling, their diet and health should be Games or Olympic Games. If we want to the responsibility of the State. They become compete with the best in the world let us the State property and then only you will be take them in the age group of 8 to 10 years. able to look after that. For instance, for say Now how to do that? The National Sports 100 metres, if you pick up one hundred Authority should be strengthened. There is boys and girls, only one of them may come no doubt about it. I strongly agree with the up to that level of excellence. So, let us be 511 Disc. under Rule 193 DECEMBER 1,1986 Disc, under Rule 193 512

(Shri Digvijay Singh] good in archery. They did fairly well when the Sports Authority picked up a few and trained them for archery. People from hilts very clear-cut on this. Unless and until you are naturally built over generations who can develop the educational facilities around do well in long-distance running and walk­ these sport complexes, you will not be able ing. So, this should be taken into account. to look after them. I am told that the Sports This is a very important thing. Authority had initially some problem of lan­ guage and other things. But this can be Sir, incentive is the last word for excel­ overcome. But the point remains that until lence. If you have a proper incentive, then and unless you adopt these boys and girls the sportsmen of course will do well- incen­ who show some kind of promise at the tive of job, a monetary incentive or any school level and make them State property, other incentive which the Government or you cannot achieve excellence. For 1996 the Sports Authority may decide. But let us Olympics, start picking up talents now. For not waste money on developing more in­ Asian Cames for 1994, pick up talents now. frastructure, let us spend money in the de­ Let us forget about 1992 Olympics and 1990 velopment of a person picked up at an early Asian Cames. Forget them. We are not age between 8 and 10 years. Then only you bothered about our participation. If you will be able to pick up one among a hun­ want to achieve excellence, then you have dred. to train these boys and girls for excellence, not mediocrity. When you want to compete with the best in the world, health and diet for the The second point is that if you see the sportsmen is the most important feature. I overall results of the last Olympics or Asian do not know on what diet they are being Cames, genes play a vital part. How do you fed. It is extremely important and when you prove that? If you see the results of the 100 pick up a prospective sportsman at the age metres results of the last Olympics the ear­ of 8 to 10 years, monthly monitoring of his lier Olympics, the men and women, all sex diet and health has to be taken care of by were Negroes. If you see the results of long the authorities in the sports school or col­ distance, all are Whites, if you see the re­ lege. sults of wrestling, ail are Whites, and if you see the results of boxing, most of them are Then comes the coaching, training and Negroes. Therefore, I feel that the genes participation in the competition. This could play a role in achieving the results in sports. be done. Unfortunately, initially when we became independent, we invested a lot on Now let us do an indepth analysis of the coaching. Then we produced a lot of coach- Indian stock that we have. We have the ers who have been training for mediocrity, people in the hills, we have the people in not for excellence and they have not been the Central India and we have the people in able to achieve any excellence so far. the South. We should try to have an indepth analysis of what kind of stock we need for Sir, I have made my point and I would this kind of sports and let us pick up those strongly advocate that we have to plan for promising youngsters from the schools and the future now and pick up boys and girls at colleges for these spiorts from that stock. that level and then let us talk of Olympics in You have to do an indepth analysis of this. If 1996 and Asian Games of 1994, and for you don't, then we would be faced with the God's sake, do away with the federations results which we have had recently. Resig­ and associations which have been a curse nation of the Minister or the Sports Author­ for the Indian sports in this country. ity is not the solution to this problem. An indepth analysis of the people who inhabit this country is necessary. For example, trib­ SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY als from Central India and Nagaland are (Katwa): Sir, how less importance sports 513 Disc, under Rule 193 ACRAHAYANA10,191 0(SAKA) Disc, under Rule 193 514 and games have become in the scheme of ways take up discussion under 193 at 4 things in our country can be seen today. I O'Clock. That is the usual time. am very unhappy about the way we are conducting the discussion. Reverse of what You are the people responsible. You is happening now, if this kind of have accepted it. This is not the point. You ...{Interruptions). come to the point. You are wasting the time. SHRI A)AY MUSHRAN: This is an asper­ (Interruptions) sion on the Deputy-Speaker on how he is conducting the debate. SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: I also wrote a letter to Madam Margeret Alava SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: No, and wanted her to resign because I thought the way we are conducting. Now, Sir, you the humiliation that our country suffered the see all these things have happened. shame that hurt our country should be {Interruptions). shared by somebody in the top. It is not that her resignation can bring us medals. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The man who But as a sincere Minister, to send a dtock has initiated, where has he gone? wage all over the country, I thought, she {Interruptions). wold do it. She did not do it. I cannot force her to resign. But the question is, nobody is SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: I am feeling responsible. Everybody is taking it talking of the total situation. (Interruptions). casually. Everybody is trying to rationalise our failures that we have this, we could not MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Don't waste the do this and that is why we failed. But then, time. (Interruptions) why is thaj happening? What is our sports policy? We have our NIS. We have our MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Nobody can cast coaching centres, just on the eve of some aspersion on the Chair. That is all. international event. All this isolated islands cannot bring us any achievement in interna­ SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: No, tional events. Our pyramid is upside down. no, I am not doing it. With a sincere think­ The ground is totally weak. In the schools ing I am saying this. Mr. Digvijaya Singh said and colleges, in the rural areas there is no­ that these failures have created awareness. I body to take care of boys and girls who can am sorry to say, it has not. (interruptions). really develop, who can really contribute to sports. Ours is a sports mad country. In the Nobody is feeling accountable. Other­ football, in the cricket, in the hockey and in wise everybody would have cpme here. other branches of sports and games, we see There would have been some mechanism of how people throng to see them; how much bringing all the leaders of the Federations to they love sports. They have talent. But they sit in the Gallery. The Supreme House of the are being wasted. Sports and games create country is debating the dismal performance discipline; sports and games breed coopera­ in the Olympics and there is nobody. Re­ tion and solidarity. But the situation that is verse to this, if the new goes to the people prevailing it our scheme of things is that that the Prime Minister came, Cabinet Min­ these very ills are corroding our sports and isters came and all the Members were games in our country. It is politicking, it is there, then the people will feel that we nepotism,it is favourtism that is going on. were really serious about it as we were hurt. Federations are not sovereign of this coun­ But nobody is accountable. And the time try. If they are doing good work, we must fixed is 5 O'clock. Nobody will come to appreciate them. But it cannot be that they know what is happening. can violate the norms, send people to the Olympics and bring humiliation for the MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Sports time is 5 country. They cannot do that. 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[Shri Saifuddin ChowdharyJ sports women. They have struggled hard but we have failed to train them and disci­ pline them. In the rural areas, our tribal people and other different types of people are there DR. DATTA SAMANT: In athletics, no who, if properly trained, can contribute to a man is there! large scale for the development of sports and games. But who are taking care of this. SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: I am When we discuss about our performance in not to say anything against any individual Olympics, we have to sincerely think about sports person. The question is about the what should be our sports policy. policy. When I talk of nepotism, favouritism and all that, you will see that even in the limited SHRI AJAY MUSHRAN: There is nothing structure that we have for these sports and wrong with the policy. games in our country, all these ailments are damaging the quality of our sport persons. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You continue.

The Government as well as the President SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: Why of the Amateur Athletic Federation of India did they select them when they did not have said that for Olympics, quality will only reach the qualifying mark? When P. T. Usha be considered. Shri Ajay Mushran has said, really brought laurels for our country in whoever had achieved sixth position in the Asian Games, we were happy. When she last Olympics of International Champi­ was ill, everybody knew it. She was injured. onships, they will only be considered to be Then why was she sent? A great farce took sent there. Did we stick to that? We did not. place. I do not know who allowed this. When we came to know about this, we Take the case of Mr. Khajan Singh. were shocked like anything.

There is another convention and com­ You will find that discipline is required mitment that whoever is trained abroad, and that comes through sports and games when they come back, they will have to ap­ also very much. This is a very serious casu­ pear in the test in the country. But when alty in our scheme of things. some foreign coach certified, they were sent without these trails. We appointed the Soviet coach Mr. G. Taropan for wrestling. He said that the pre­ The same was the case with Miss Soma sent batch was poor. But we insisted on Dutt. that.

She scored 35. She did not have to ap­ The way we organise our games, I think pear for the trial. She was sent. What is the it is a waste. We just think of some interna­ result? Shri Ajay Mushran has said all that. I tional event. We set up summer coaching am not going into it. camps in Simla and all that and we conduct coaching for six months. But, that cannot In the case of sports women who ran in give any benefit to us. The whole country the Olympics 40 metres hurdle relay race, has to be a campus for games. There have their caie had also been referred. to be Sports Clubs in the schools and Col­ leges. There has to be proper training. Now SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY (Puri): you are asking for NCC. I have no objection. They are women. Make NCC compulsory. When in our coun­ try, 99 students out of 100 are suffering due SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: Are to lack of food, how are you going to train they not essentially no men? You don't dis­ them? Poverty is a very serious problem in criminate. I have nothing to say about our the development of sports and games. 517 Disc, under Rule 193 AGRAHAYANA1 0 ,1910(SA/C4) Disc, under Rule 193 518

loving people are denied of such good facili­ 18.00 hrs. ties because the States do not have ade­ quate money. Therefore, we have to have a Sir, I would request the hon. Minister good policy in this regard. Otherwise, I not to waste even that limited scope that don't think we can improve in this field. we have through politicking, log-pulling and nepotism. Certain things are there. If peo­ A question was raised. I was reading a ple are that qualified persons are not al­ magazine. There, I came across a question lowed and favours are shown to somebody, that India can produce good Poets of inter­ then that is very shocking for the whole of the country. I would like to quote an inter­ national fame, famous philosophers, scien­ tists and doctors, soldiers etc. but why in view from a magazine which saiys: the field of sports it is like this? The answer that I could think of is that people in the re­ "Eric Arnold, Australian swimming gions of philosophy and in the region of coach, in an interview with Nave Ka- other excellence, in the intellectual activity padia, published in SPORTSWORLD magazine, 22-28 Oct. 1988, spoke can sacrifice their body at the altar of their brain. But, for the sports, if body is sacri­ about how Anita Sood (free style) and Milin Somen (Breast-stroke) were un­ ficed because poverty is claiming, then you cannot shine anywhere. You must try to see fairly dropped frbm the Indian swim­ ming team for the 1986 Seoul Asiad by that in the lower level and in the grass-root level people should be motivated.... the manouvring of swimming federa­ tion of India officials especially, the coach K. V. Sharma...M. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: All right. Your allotted time is already over. You have taken That is a big thing. You may see that much time. You are very slow in running, in though in the trials they had out-shone ev: sports.You have to be quick and brief. erybody but still they were let out and dropped from the Seoul Asiad. Then they re­ Next, Shri Brajamohan Mohanty. tired. They did not have any chance for Olympics. SHRI BRAJAMOHAN. MOHANTY (Puri): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I do not belong to Sir, I am not going into the details be­ the arena of sports... (Interruptions) cause of lack of time. But the question is that federations are not to be sovereign in SHRI AJAY MUSH RAN: What has he got our country. There has to be power in the to do with Sports? (Interruptions) hands of the Government to intervene when things go bad and when there is MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: That is why he some wrong in this field. But the question is wants to speak. (Interruptions) the otherway round also. If our Government is also acting like a federation, then you SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY: That is cannot help it. Just by giving money, you why, I say that I do not belong to the arena cannot improve sports and games. What is of Sports. But the fact remains. As a citizen the attitude of the Government? Please tell of India, I oppose some of the activities of me... [Interruptions) You held the Asiad here our sports-persons! Sir, we are talking about in Delhi. At that time we demanded, that the debacle that has taken place in the re­ the Asiad should be organised in such a way cent games. But I don't think it is a debacle. that games were distributed among the Any citizen of India, who has observed our other cities also so that the infrastructure performances in the past could have imag­ that would be built on that occasion could ined that we would achieve something and be shared by the whole of the country. So Rain some medals which would bring glory many stadia have been built in Delhi. Who to our country. What happened in Los An­ goes there? Shri Digvijaya Singh also geles? As a matter of fact, I am very happy pointed this out. In many big cities sports- that now the Sports Ministry has initiated a 519 Disc. und& Rule 193 DECEMBER 1,1988 Disc, under Rule 193 520

[Shri Brajamohan Mohanty] Madhya Pradesh would reach the interna­ tional standard. Our standard is such. In that background my summission is that it new programme, a new directive, a new should be included in the Concurrent List objective and that is what is being imple­ and uniformity and coordination should be mented. They got money in 1984 and they desired. have started it. That is why, the Sports Ministry has the objective of 1990 Bejing I would submit about another aspect. So Asiad and not this Olympics. I wish them far as Sports Authority is concerned, they well. think they are absolutely autonomous. Even the Sports Ministry does not allow the Par­ Now, I shall come to another aspect liament to scrutinise the activities of the which Mr. Choudhary has made out. Today sports federation. Number of times, I have he is abnormally angry. However, I am raised the question here. But that has been happy about it. He is a young man and he disallowed because they claim full auton­ should be angry. I fully agree with him. omy. We are spending money; we are giving There should be responsibility and there them money. But we cannot scrutinise their should be accountability. But in this partic­ activities. That should be changed. ular case, where is the question of account­ ability? Our infrastructure is so backward, We have got certain experiences. Six our training is so inadequate, our food is so athletes were selected and sent to Seoul. poor, in that background, nobody could But none of them was male. All were concede and take any responsibility that our women. Why was it so? It is where the shoe sports persons would bring glory to our pinches. Males are also interested to be country. We cannot expect that a cycle rick­ athletes. You think of it. You know about shaw will compete with the motor-cycle. our NSI - the Sports Institute. They give That is your concern from the very begin­ training for nine months, and after that one ning. Naturally, something is better than becomes a coach. And the experts who are nothing so that our team could be sent there, it is reported, are qualified in jotting there. My submission is that you have to down, noting down for some foreign sports think of some structural changes so that you magazine. What training they will give and can change the entire organizational system, how the sports will improve? You think of so that you can give a new directive to the that. This is a very serious matter. We have sports. The first thing I would submit is that inadequacies and we have to improve it. let sports be a Concurrent Subject. It is now a State Subject. The Government of India, at Mr. Chowdhary suggests that we are times remains helpless. The Sports Minister poor people, how will we compete, we will complained that they had given the money fail, our boys and girls will fail. He is hun­ to the State. But it not being spent on prop­ dred percent correct. But should we wait till erly spent. This helplessness should not be the poverty is removed from India and then there. only start our programme for promotion of sports? The fact remains that whoever has I come from a backward State. The the potential should compete. sports standard in my State is much below the national* standard. I would get some re­ Now the Sports Authority of India have lief if it is handled by the Government of In­ initiated some work. They are recruiting tal­ dia so that they have and extensive hand ents all over the country including the rural that can give protection, otherwise, we areas. When they are picked up, they cannot protect ourselves. After hundred should be given nutritious food and they years, Orissa will still remain backward. You should be built up. are thinking that no Indian could reach the international standard but I am thinking that As a matter of fact, the area programme after hundred years, nobody from Orissa or that they have set before themselves is wel­ 521 Disc, under Rule 193 AGRAHAYANA1 0 ,1910(SA/C4) Disc, under Rule 193 522

come. It has started in right direction. It is tioned, I was the only Member of this not that everybody was concerned. We House who demanded in this House that knew Olympics will not give us glory. In the express train which runs from her house Hockey we have international standards; to Delhi should be named after her. I am but in no other games we have. Who did still proud of her. not know that we will not bring any medal?.,.{Interruptions)... It is going in the The point I was making in today's debate right direction and we have to give it a push was that she had passed her prime and she ahead and support the Ministry in their new was not in a physical state to achieve that efforts so that we can pick up by 1990 and standard which she achieved in Seoul Asiad. show a better performance. (Interruptions) I never run down an athlete like that. We are proud of her.

Whenever you are distributing funds, what is the consideration? Are you taking SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: I agree. If into consideration the backwardness of a that is so, who is to be blamed? State, the backwardness in the area of The stage managers have to be blamed. sports? That should be taken into consider­ She came out of her own and bring the na­ ation. Accordingly, you must give priority tion pride. I know Shiny Abraham; she be­ and more funds, so that they can pick up. longs to my constituency. I know Mini Kut- Not only we shall pick up the international tan, I know how these people are coming standards, but also we have to remove the up. What promotions are we giving for regional imbalance. That should be our ob­ them? If somebody comes up on his or her jective. own and brings glory to the nation, then the stage managers who come out of politics only, who manage things because of their SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS (Mavelikara): own way and be mere show pieces for ev­ The Seoul Games is an eye opener for us. I erything, come into the picture. They are am proud to say that I represent Kerala only show pieces always. They don't know which is producing the best athletes in the the ABCD. They come because of other country. But I am very sorry when Mr. Ajay people's initiative. And now you put the Mushran Blamed the athletes for the deba­ blame on the sports people; it is very sad. cle. Let us have a frank thinking over this We have to encourage them for the next matter. Olympics in whatever manner possible.

Where was Usha? Whose product was Usha? How she became once the fame and the glory of the nation? She belongs to one Then, Sir, I would like to say that village in the Calicut District. She started first completely dissolve the Federations running through the streets in the village. and the organisations whichever you Then she got a job in the Railways, some­ have immediately. Then you bring a body trained her and she became famous. policy for sports encouragement. There Then everybody wanted her and she got to take into account the various important the best. suggestions which have been made before the House. There are talents which are available in various parts of I read an interview of Usha recently. It was really very pathetic. She asked, who is the country. You look at the Seoul. Olympics there to defend her? Once she was liked by or any Olympic how Americans won these everybody and now she is thrown out. Ev­ medals. They pushed Negros. How Negros erybody wants to put the blame on her. Let came up. Negros fight in the jungles for us think how she came up. their livelihood and they have generated such genes to fight such issues. We have SHRI AJAY MUSHRAN: Sir, I did not got such areas of Gurkhas. They may be bet­ mean that... {Interruptions)... As I men­ ter in certain items. Keralites may be better 523 Disc, under Rule 193 DECEMBER 1,1988 Disc. under Rule 193 524

[Shri Thampan Thomas] pocket TV, see the cricket match and then say he is a sportsman. The body of a in certain other items because ot the geo­ sportsman is built by involving himself in graphical situation there. Goans may be the activities. Villages have their own games best footballers. When I see the football which are similar to cricket. There are vari­ matches many of the Keralites represent ous types of sports through which they can Bengal team or Railways team and most of build their body. Instead of that we have a them are sportsmen. Why? There was some tendency to immitate something. Perhaps sort of encouragement in the schools and cricket may not be good for all areas. It may colleges. There was a drill period. Private be good for certain areas and for certain sector and Government gave certain en­ other areas other things may be good. So couragement in earlier days and not now. we have to identify those things. Wherever Now it is politicking. One of my friend who sportsmen are available or genes are avail­ studied with me in the school and upto able we have to identify them. For the pur­ college became Chairman of the Sports pose of identification we have not made any Council there. I wonder how he became serious effort. For identifying what is the Chairman of the Sports Council there. I right age? If you make identification at the have never seen him wearing a sports age of 27, 28 or 30 it is of no use. Identifica­ jacket. He became MLA and an officer in the tion has to be done between the age of 7 Assembly but I found him become Chairman and 12. A sportsman has to be made up at of the Sports Council there. This is the way that age. What are the methods we are go­ In which we have handled the sports. Let us ing to use for this purpose? The remove it. methods which could be used are the schools, educational institutions, li­ We have set apart Rs. 230 crores for this braries and other public facilities which are purpose now. This money is very important available to identify the people who are for a country like ours. When you are having the skill of sports. You should select spending you should have scheme and them, bring them together, put them in the properly apply your mind and scheme in competition, make them come up and give such a manner that people who deserve it them the due encouragement. If such en­ get proper encouragement. All the things couragements are not given and such iden­ we did in the past were futile. Let us take tifications are not made, whenever we get the Asiad village which we have con­ some opportunity, we would use them but structed. I do remember when I came to the ultimately we would fail. Then, we say: We House in the very first month I asked the have failed and we have to console them. question how you are utilising the stadium. I Therefore, one of the points is to identify remember the Government could not an­ the talents and select them. swer it. At that time the stadia were locked. They were not even open to the university for practice. I think now some efforts have I have read many articles about Milkha been made to use them. Singh saying: "When we retire from the sports, what is the benefit given to us?" I would like to narrate my experience of Why should these people come to involve visit to China. I saw how Chinese people themselves to keep the prestige of the na­ train their young men and women in sports. tion? They should have a feeling that they Really there is no stadium. There is no big would be protected after their performance. money spent for this purpose but there is a They are monuments for the nation. Could sport culture which is built up in the minds we keep it? of the people. Therefore, children and young people come to the streets and play I have also read that a football player in the game. Now the biggest advantage of a Olympics was not having his livelihood. The sportsman in India is to carry transistor or a old fans-not the present fans-formed an as­ 525 Disc, under Rule 193 ACRAHAYANA10,1910(MM) Disc, under Rule 193 526

sociation. Then, they used to collect money cording to the expectations: Not only that, it to keep him alive. That is the attitude to­ is specifically stated further: wards the sportsmen. Now, I don't know what will happen to P. T. Usha. If she has "We were not expecting the Indian some reserve money, which she had got contingent to win any medals this earlier, then she may have a good living. Af­ time.” ter retirement, nobody is there to look after them. There should be a system. There Furtheron, it is justified by saying that: should be some promotion. There should be a feeling that they will be properly safe­ "Participation of the Indian contingent guarded. Certain people here and there, are at Seoul was a part of our preparation doing all these things. On their own, they for the Asian Games to be held in are coming up. There is no centralised pro­ 1990 at Beijing." jection for improvement by the Covem­ ment. My submission is that the Govern­ So, this was the objective even before ment should take up the responsibility to the Government itself. I submit that it is look into these things at the earliest possi­ very unfortunate. The Government had itself ble opportunity so that we are able to face taken a very complacent view of the Seoul the situation and keep the status and dignity Olympics as far as the sports are concerned. of 80 million people. Small countries, like Coasta Rica, have won a medal. When we Of course, the Prime Minister, when he lose, we all feel ashamed. That should not bid farewell to the sportsmen, had advised be repeated in the near future. them not to come with empty neck. But unfortunately they went, they participated and came back with empty neck. The selec­ SHRI SHARAD DIGHE (Bombay North tion of the sportsmen is the crux of the Central): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, when we whole problem. According to me, there is a are discussing the dismal performance of pulling in two directions by these federa­ Indian sports contingent in the Seoul tions and our Sports Authority of Indian or Olympic Games, several causes have been the Government. shown and remedies have also been sug­ gested. The House is practically of one view When the guidelines were given by the that the performance was very dismal and Government to these Federations regarding something has to be done. Unfortunately, selections, the Secretary of the General As­ the Covemment does not appear to be of sociation of National Sports Federations of that view. A starred question (No. 28) was India, of which 21 Federations are the put to them on 3rd November 1988. It was Members, Air Marshal C. L. Mehta (Retired) asked: had openly said that they rejected the guidelines formulated by the Government of "Whether Government have made any India because these would undermine the appraisal of India's performance at the autonomy of the sports Federations. When Seoul Olympics;...". the Federations were given the guidelines, they rejected the same. There is thus a tus­ sle between the Federations and the Gov­ To my surprise, it has been stated in the ernment and that has to be resolved first. reply that: We can see the results of the tussle, and the question of favourtism and other things can "The performance of the Indian sports easily come in. contingent was, by and large, accord­ ing to expectations, barring a few indi­ Now, about P. T. Usha I do not want to vidual exceptions." enter into any controversy, but it is stated that only it was manoeuvred that she should So, all this dismal performance is ac­ go. In fact, it was not in the interest of the 527 Disc, under Rule 193 DECEMBER 1,1988 Disc, under Rule 193 528

[Shri Sharad Dighe] Finally, as far as the diet is concerned, we are not taking any care of this factor at all. A good sportsman needs a diet of five ■ sports that she should have been sent this thousand calories and an average Indian time. gets about 1000-1200 calories. As far as the sportsmen are concerned, for nearly 10-11 Apart from the'selections, we will have months in a year, they get diet of 1200 calo­ to consider how the monies are being ries before the sports, and only for one spent. It was stated that now Rs. 200 month or so, they take extra diet of 3000 crores, or more than that, is being allotted calories a day. Within one month, they have in this plan. Formerly, it was a very small to prepare themselves and take this extra amount; earlier, we were spelnding half a diet. This last-minute preparation is not go­ paise per capita yearly. Nofy we are ing to give us any medal in future. spending Rs. 200 crores, but my information is that most of the expenditure in this plan A long term plan is very much necessary. is on the Sports Authority of India and the As a nation, we must take this subject of National Institute of Sports. These are the sports very seriously and prepare ourselves two institutions on which we are spending a with a complete and long plan from the large amount out of Rs. 200 crores. Hardly Government. in the 7th Plan budget of Rs. 200 crores, Rs. 10 crores are available for grants to the There is also a suggestion that Sports sports Federations. Therefore, we must also should be made a concurrent subject and it be careful when we make allotment for should be brought under the Central Gov­ these sports. How much really goes to the ernment so that a concerted effort can be sports and how much goes to the institu­ made to improve our performance. This tions which we are creating and that has to suggestion is also worth considering. If we be taken care of. do not take all these steps, mere pumping of money in the name of sports will not give We also say that we should emphasise us any results whatsoever. Therefore, I sug­ on the infrastructure. The present position gest that a very serious view should be is that we have hardly any grounds for the taken as far as the subject 'sports' is con­ schools. The figures show that out of 6 lakh cerned. primary schools, 1.5 lakh middle schools and 70000 high and higher secondary SHRIMATI CEETA MUKHERJEE schools, hardly two per cent of them have (Panskura): Sir, My claim in speaking on playgrounds, and not even one of the 5000 Seoul Olympics is not very high. May be, I colleges or universities has a wrestling may not be in a position to stand in any en­ coach. No school, college or university has durance examination. Since, Shri Indrajit standard equipment for any Olympic disci­ Gupta has left, I have to speak on the sub­ pline. If this is the position, then something ject. Any way, I will be very brief. drastic has to be done. Now, first of all, we are all very sorry We say that we should catch the young over our performance. This is the feeling of sportsmen at the age of 7-12 years. That is everybody irrespective of parties. Let it be the correct approach and will have to be clear. There are certain things which are re­ done. But for doing that, we should also see ally staring us in our face and even an ab­ that the grounds are available to the solutely non-sportswoman like me, finds the schools, swimming pools are there and situation distressing. some such equipments which are necessary to win medals in the Olympics have also to The first point is about the team selec­ be provided and from tha. ^ ..t ;f view, I tion and the management of sports. There suggest that immediately something will seems to be too many mis-managerial tal­ have to be done by the Covemment. ents and too little encouragement to nurse 529 Disc, under Rule 193. ACRAHAYANA1 0 ,1910(SA/CA) Disc, under Rule 193 530 the sports talents. This seems to be one of Now I come to the aspect of qualifying the biggest reasons for the failures. Here, standards. Qualifying standards* should be both the Government and to some extent declared much earlier so that there will not the family background are responsible. A be any last-minute scramble as to who will good management can improve things to a go and who will not go and so on. This will great extent. also avoid a tot of heart-burning and there will be more chances bf getting suitable Secondly, there is a suggestion that the persons. money allocated for the development of sports should be utilised for the develop­ There are certain questions which are ment of sports from the school level itself. being rased about Hockey. It seems that There cannot be two opinions about the va­ one of the things that we lack is synthetic lidity of this point. grounds and because of that our Hockey standard is falling. I am giving you certain Now there are certain views expressed examples. After talking to some youngsters by many youngsters which I may repeat and also some sportsmen, it seems that here as their grandmother. Firstly, they feel there are some critical areas where we lack that probably it is necessary to change cer­ and we must immediately locate those areas tain things in our selection process. They and go on preparing all along the lines and feel that for the time being, those games not by just starting the training, etc. This is a where a greater amount of physical strength clear indicator for us as far as improvement is a must, may be given less preference and in the sports is concerned. these games which require more skill should be given more importance. Final improvement, of course, is really what our friends have said, training our SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: Like young people in sports from the very tender ludo, chess, etc.? age and thereby creating another atmo­ sphere altogether. SHRIMATI CEETA MUKHERJEE: The point I am making ^s a very valid one. For SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY (Alipurduars): I have example, to develop excellence in the field a point of order. Only three Members from of gymnastics is very difficult at this stage. the ruling party are present here. There is So, we may leave it aside for the time being, no quorum in the House. say for a while* Of course, later we can de­ velop it. At this particular stage, we must MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Let the quorum concentrate on those games which require bell be rung. more skill and where we can have better performance with less effort and in a short Since there is no quorum, the House time. This point must be taken into consid­ stands adjourned to meet tomorrow at eration. 11 A. M.

It is also stated by some people that there must be foreign coaches to train our 18.45 h rs. youngsters. But it seems that the foreign coaches are not alwaysfamiliar to our situa­ The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Eleven of tion. Instead, our own Indian coaches the Qock on Friday, Decerrlber 2, would probably be much better in our situa­ 1988/Agrahayanall, 1910 (Saka) tion. This step will not only be less costly, but it will also help us better.

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