Jaargang XI Maand 12

SA-GENEALOGIE Poslys

Argiewe 2014

Desember 2014

Saamgestel deur: Elorina du Plessis

KWYTSKELDING

Hierdie argief is nie ’n amptelike, wetlike dokument nie, maar ’n samestelling van die e-posse van verskillende lede van die SA Genealogie Gesprekslys soos dit gedurende die tydperk ingestuur was.

Die lyseienaars en hulle bestuurspan aanvaar dus geen aanspreeklikheid vir die korrektheid van gegewens, sienings oor bepaalde gebeure, interpretasie en samestelling van familieverwantskappe, of vir enige aksies of verlies wat daaruit mag voortspruit nie, en stel voor dat persone wat hierdie bron gebruik, self eers die gegewens kontroleer.

Desember 2014 Bundels

(Wintermaand) Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6862 Datum: Mon Dec 1, 2014 Daar is 15 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1 Petrus Johannes en Rachel DE VILLIERS by ria.vandenheever 2a Jacobus Johannes GORDON + Elsje Catharina Andriessa Johanna COETZEE by mikelamusse 3a Pieter Willem Adriaan SENEKAL + Martha (Elizabeth?) DU TOIT by mikelamusse 4 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 01 Desember 2014 by "Hester Marx" 5 Schierenberg by "Heinrich Mielmann" 6 Durban And Coastal newsletter by "Ferdie van Wyk" 7a File - netiket.txt by 8a Re: TAB OPSOEK : Sk. vir John George MOORE. by "Johan Vermeulen" vermeulenjpsa 8b Re: TAB OPSOEK : Sk. vir John George MOORE. by "Johan Vermeulen" vermeulenjpsa 9a Re: FW: [SA-Gen] Angela van Bengale - vroulike DNA by "Chris Hendriks" krisbloem 10 [PRESS] Beeld 28 Nov.2014.doc by "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie 11 [PRESS] Beeld 29 Nov.2014.doc by "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie 12 [PRESS] Beeld 01 Des.2014.doc by "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie 13 [PRESS] Beeld 02 Des.2014.doc by "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie 14 [Press] The Mercury /Daily News 1 Dec 2014 by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Messages

1 Petrus Johannes en Rachel DE VILLIERS Mon Dec 1, 2014 2:28 am (PST) . Posted by: ria.vandenheever

Beste Lysenaars,

Ek vind in SAG Vol 14 twee inskrywings van 'n egpaar (e) met bovermelde name. a1b3c3d2 sê Petrus Johannes gedoop Stellenbosch 15.05.1757, boer oorlede c.1791 s.v. Jan de Villiers en Anna Hugo, x Paarl 12.01.1775 Rachel DE VILLIERS gedoop 28.10.1759, oorlede c.1798 d.v. Abraham de Villiers en Johanna Lombard. a1b9c12 sê Rachel gedoop Paarl 29.08.1756, oorlede Paarl 16.11.1813 d.v Abraham de Villiers enJohanna Lombard, x Paarl12.01.1775 Petrus Johannes DE VILLIERS gedoop 15.05.1757, oorlede c. 1791 s.v. Jan de Villiers en Anna Hugo, xx Kaapstad Johannes Martin Hermann.

Dit lyk vir my is dieselfde man, maar Rachel? Weet iemand iets meer van die egpaar? bv. waar hulle gewoon het.

Help asb. Ria van den Heever

2a Jacobus Johannes GORDON + Elsje Catharina Andriessa Johanna COETZEE Mon Dec 1, 2014 3:07 am (PST) . Posted by: mikelamusse

Ek het vergeet dat ons moet ons navrae in Afrikaans te skryf. Ek vra verskoning daarvoor. Hier is my vraag alweer ... http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BUITENPOSTEN/2005-02/1109244492 http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BUITENPOSTEN/2005-02/1109244492 wys dat Jacobus Johannes GORDON en Elsje Catharina Andriessa Johanna COETZEE is die ouers van Aletta Catharina GORDON Weet miskien enige iemand wie was die ouers van

1. Jacobus Johannes GORDON 2. Elsje Catharina Andriessa Johanna COETZEE

Groete Mike Lamusse

3a Pieter Willem Adriaan SENEKAL + Martha (Elizabeth?) DU TOIT Mon Dec 1, 2014 3:09 am (PST) . Posted by: mikelamusse

Ek het vergeet dat ons moet ons navrae in Afrikaans te skryf. Ek vra verskoning daarvoor. Hier is my vraag alweer ...

My informasie is dat Pieter Willem Adriaan SENEKAL is in die laat 1800's met Martha (Elizabeth?) DU TOIT getrou

Weet enige iemand miskine wie was die ouers van

1. Pieter Willem Adriaan SENEKAL 2. Martha (Elizabeth?) DU TOIT

Groete Mike Lamusse

4 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 01 Desember 2014 Mon Dec 1, 2014 4:02 am (PST) . Posted by: "Hester Marx"

Sterfgevalle

DALTON, Johan. Tragies +Donderdag 27 November 2014. Ons verloor ˜n wonderlike man, pa, oupa, seun, broer, oom. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 01/12/2014)

In Memoriam

BELLINGAN, Stefan. LUV U 4 ever na 35 jaar. Pa, Ma, Graham, Maia, Cara-Maria. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 01/12/2014)

Hester Marx, Loerie [email protected]

5 Schierenberg Mon Dec 1, 2014 6:17 am (PST) . Posted by: "Heinrich Mielmann"

Middag Lede

Het enige iemand dalk vir my inligting oor Herman Gunther Dietrich Friedrich Schierenberg *10/02/1925 Duitsland + 06/06/1087 Suid- Afrika Aankoms 1956

Baie Dankie Heinrich HJ Mielmann

6 Durban And Coastal newsletter Mon Dec 1, 2014 6:29 am (PST) . Posted by: "Ferdie van Wyk"

Goeiemiddag almal,

By hierdie skakel kan jul Durban en Kus se jongste nuusbrief lees.

Good afternoon all ,

At his link you can read Durban And Coastal's latest newsletter. http://www.genza.org.za/index.php/en?Itemid=375

Ferdie van Wyk Webbestuurder/Web Manager: www.genza.org.za Centurion

7a File - netiket.txt Mon Dec 1, 2014 7:39 am (PST) . Posted by:

SAGenealogie: herinnering aan lysreëls, en lysnetiket

Die volgende reëls en riglyne is daargestel om almal se ervaring van SA Genealogie nog meer aangenaam en produktief te maak. Gebruikers van die poslys aanvaar, deur hulle lidmaatskap en gebruik, die voorwaardes van die lysreels en onderneem om hulle daarby te hou. Indien iemand nie die reels wil nakom nie, moet hulle asseblief nie die poslys gebruik nie.

Lidmaatskap en bydraes word gemodereer deur die lysbestuur.

Die reëls en riglyne vir poslys-etiket is soos volg:

1. Gesprekstaal Die voertaal van SAGenealogie is Afrikaans, met aanvaarding van aanhalings uit bronne in die oorspronklike taal.

2. In- en uittekening Dit word van lede verwag om self hul intekening as lid op die poslys te administreer deur te gaan na http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SAGenealogie/

Wanneer 'n lid vir 'n tyd afwesig sal wees, is die beste om tydelik uit te teken as lid deur 'n e-pos te stuur aan: [email protected] en na terugkeer weer aan te teken deur 'n e-pos te stuur aan: [email protected]

Onthou dat lidmaatskap gekeur word om te verhoed dat gemorspos-advertensies die poslys oorlaai, en om dit moontlik te maak dat lede wat die reëls herhaaldelik oortree se lidmaatskap gekanselleer kan word. Lede wat die reëls herhaaldelik oortree se boodskappe mag aan moderering onderwerp word.

3. SAGenealogie webwerf Besoek die SAGenealogie webwerf by http://www.sagenealogie.com of www.sagenealgy.com om julle te vergewis van die poslys se doelwitte en reëls.

4. Netiket en lysreëls Netiket (net-etiket) vereis dat lede onder andere die volgende sal doen:

* wees vriendelik en behulpsaam teenoor andere, en respekteer mekaar; * deel genealogiese inligting met mekaar; * gebruik te alle tye beskaafde taal; * hou by die terrein van die poslys, naamlik genealogie (en verwante sake); * moet asseblief nie persoonlike boodskappe, en boodskappe wat niks met die genealogie te doen het, op die poslys plaas nie; * indien jy iets persoonliks wil oordra aan 'n ander lid, doen dit van die poslys af deur 'n e-pos direk aan die betrokkene te stuur; regsklik op die boodskap in Outlook Express, maak "properties" oop en kry die afsender se persoonlike e-adres. Moet asseblief nie net op "reply" klik sonder om die adres te verander sodat die pos nie per ongeluk ook na die lys toe gaan nie. * moenie twiste en vlam-oorloë begin of daaraan deelneem nie; * as jy antwoord op die poslys, sny onnodige teks uit die oorspronklike boodskap; die meeste e-posprogramme voeg die oorspronklike boodskap by verstek by wanneer jy op 'n brief antwoord; behou slegs die noodsaaklike deel van die ou boodskap; * as jy boodskappe in bundelformaat ontvang, moet nooit die hele bundel hersend wanneer jy antwoord nie; sny alle nie-tersake boodskappe uit die bundel uit; * gebruik altyd 'n relevante woord of sinsnede in die onderwerp-lyn ("subject") sodat ander kan sien waaroor jou boodskap gaan; voordat jy dus jou antwoord stuur, vergelyk jou brief en die onderwerp-lyn, en maak die nodige aanpassings; * wanneer jy inligting of hulp ontvang van 'n ander lid, bedank die lid kortliks (verkieslik in 'n private boodskap van die poslys af) daarvoor.

5. Toestemming en Kopiereg Lyslede wat e-pos aan die lys stuur stem in en erken, deur die versending van die e-pos aan SA-Genealogie, dat die inligting en kennis wat deur hul verskaf en oorgedra word te enigertyd en op enige manier deur die bestuur en lyslede gebruik mag word in enige vorm, ook in publikasies en in databasisse, maar dan op die uitdruklike voorwaarde dat die outeur (bydraer) en SAGenealogie as bron erken word.

6. Vrywaring SA Genealogie aanvaar geen verantwoordelikheid vir die inhoud en korrektheid van enige inligting wat deur lede in e-posse op die lys geplaas word nie. Die bestuur onderskryf nie noodwendig die opinie wat in e-posse uitgespreek word nie en aanvaar ook nie verantwoordelikheid daarvoor nie.

6. Bestuur Kontak die SAGenealogie bestuur as jy verdere inligting wil bekom, of enigiets onder hul aandag wil bring. 'n E-pos kan aan hulle gestuur word by

[email protected]

Lyseienaars en Bestuur Krugersdorp, S A

8a Re: TAB OPSOEK : Sk. vir John George MOORE. Mon Dec 1, 2014 8:04 am (PST) . Posted by: "Johan Vermeulen" vermeulenjpsa

Middag Annelie en die res van ons lyslede wat geantwoord het,

Baie dankie vir jou hulp Annelie. Ek het nie so spoed positiewe reaksie verwag nie.

Groete Johan Vermeulen

8b Re: TAB OPSOEK : Sk. vir John George MOORE. Mon Dec 1, 2014 8:11 am (PST) . Posted by: "Johan Vermeulen" vermeulenjpsa

Middag Willem,

Ek antwoord op die lys, ter wille van ander lyslede wie ook gereageer het.

Ongelukkig is die George Sebastiaan MOORE wat te Middelburg gewoon het, nie die een wie se sk ek benodig het nie.

Hy was nie my ouma se broer nie, maar was my skoonseun se pa se broer. Sy seun John woon steeds naby Middelburg, Kp.

Groete Johan Vermeulen.

9a Re: FW: [SA-Gen] Angela van Bengale - vroulike DNA Mon Dec 1, 2014 8:33 am (PST) . Posted by: "Chris Hendriks" krisbloem

Hallo Vriende

Terwyl ons by Angela van Bengale is benodig ek ook hulp aub. Volgens SAG vol 3 is Johannes Heyne (Jan Hein) v. Luxemburg a. 1782 ≈ c. 1820 x 22.9.1793 Johanna Jacoba HENDRIKS d.v. Jan Adam Hendriks en Elizabeth v.d.K. Ek aanvaar dat daar sekerlik meer as een Elizabeth was.

Het iemand asseblief inligting oor hierdie dame?

Baie dankie Chris

2014-12-01 8:42 GMT+02:00 'Dennis Pretorius' [email protected] [SAGenealogie] :

> Aangestuur vir die wat net die eerste deel kon lees. > > Groetnis > Dennis Pretorius

> From: "[email protected] [SAGenealogie]" > Date:30/11/2014 14:30 (GMT+02:00) > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SA-Gen] Angela van Bengale - vroulike DNA > > Is daar dalk iemand in ons groep wie se voorouer in hulle direkte > moederslyn (matroniem) Angela van Bengale is (x Arnoldus Basson, voorheen > slavin van Jan van Riebeeck), en wat reeds hulle (en dus haar) mtDNA laat > ontleed het en bereid is om my te sê wat hulle/haar mtDNA haplotipe is? > > (Ek het 'n navraag van iemand waarmee ek probeer help) > > Groete, > Martina Louw. > (Brisbane)

10 [PRESS] Beeld 28 Nov.2014.doc Mon Dec 1, 2014 8:46 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie

DIPPENAAR; Jacobus Daniël Möller 08/11/1941 + 01/07/2014. Rus in vrede, Christine en kinders. (Beeld – 28/11/2014)

Groete, Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.

[Blignaut x Laubscher; Els x Blignaut; Pretorius x Bloem; Kruger x Pretorius.] [Bouwer x Meyer; Bouwer x Wild; Pretorius x v/d Merwe; Pretorius x Potgieter; Potgieter x Barkhuizen] 11 [PRESS] Beeld 29 Nov.2014.doc Mon Dec 1, 2014 8:56 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie

THEUNISSEN; Louis * 28/09/1922 + 27/11/2014. Dankdiens: NG Kerk Lynnwood, Sussexlaan 439, Lynnwood, Pretoria, 01/12/2014, 15:00. Kontak: 083-303-3313. [Foto met berig]. (Beeld - 29/11/2014)

Groete, Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.

[Blignaut x Laubscher; Els x Blignaut; Pretorius x Bloem; Kruger x Pretorius.] [Bouwer x Meyer; Bouwer x Wild; Pretorius x v/d Merwe; Pretorius x Potgieter; Potgieter x Barkhuizen]

12 [PRESS] Beeld 01 Des.2014.doc Mon Dec 1, 2014 9:07 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie

NN (CAMPBELL-THOMPSON?); Pn (Dogter * 05/05/2000). Charles CAMBELL-THOMPSON KONTAK DRINGEND VIR Susan WASSERMAN by 083-268-6650 oor aanneming van jou dogter. (Beeld - 01/12/2014)

Groete, Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.

[Blignaut x Laubscher; Els x Blignaut; Pretorius x Bloem; Kruger x Pretorius.] [Bouwer x Meyer; Bouwer x Wild; Pretorius x v/d Merwe; Pretorius x Potgieter; Potgieter x Barkhuizen]

13 [PRESS] Beeld 02 Des.2014.doc Mon Dec 1, 2014 9:26 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie

NN (MORISHES?); Pn. MORISHES kontak dringend vir Loftie EATON, maatskaplike werker by 084-513-1446 oor aanneming van jou kind. (Beeld - 02/12/2014)

NN (VAN DER BERG?); Pn (Seun * 22/09/2012). Chrystal VAN DEN BERG kontak dringend vir Alta KUHNEMUND by 076-945-7998 oor aanneming van jou seun. (Beeld - 02/12/2014)

Groete, Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.

[Blignaut x Laubscher; Els x Blignaut; Pretorius x Bloem; Kruger x Pretorius.] [Bouwer x Meyer; Bouwer x Wild; Pretorius x v/d Merwe; Pretorius x Potgieter; Potgieter x Barkhuizen]

14 [Press] The Mercury /Daily News 1 Dec 2014 Mon Dec 1, 2014 11:11 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:-“We are all of us stars, and we deserve to twinkle. “ Actress and sex symbol Marilyn MONROE (1926 –1962.)

BIRTHDAY:- LUDLOW Wendy. From all at Independent Newspapers Classifieds.

ENGAGEMENT :- CALVERLEY –STROEBEL Gav & Sandi announce engagement of their daughter Hayley to Russell.

DEATHS:-CRICKET Umpire died He was hit by a ball in the chest. OSCAR Hillel + 29 Nov 2014.He was 55years old. He was from Israel. They were playing in the southern port city of Ashdod.

MATRIC PARTY RICHARDS BAY:-GUMEDE Siphelele (18) +29 Nov 2014

MATHENJWA Bongumusa (no age given) + 29 Nov 2014

MKHIZE Thobani (18) +29 Nov 2014 . Stepson of Zaba HLENGWA . Son of Cabangile HLENGWA (mother).They were all stabbed. DAILY NEWS.

LADYSMITH SHOOTING:-JARDIM Liza +28 Nov 2014.

MYBURGH Marius & Koekie + 28 Nov 2014 Parent of two teenagers.

PESTANA Nelson + 28 Nov 2014 . The car was shot at but nothing stolen. DAILY NEWS.

ST LOUIS:-BEGIC Zemir (32) .A Bosnian man was beaten to death with hammers by 2 youths.He was in his car when the car was damaged. DAILY NEWS.

FRASER Robert. Brother and uncle of Pam, Karen and Wayne.

GROENEWALD Werner (46) + 29 Nov 2014

GROENEWALD Jean-Pierre (17) + 29 Nov 2014

GROENEWALD Rodé (15) + 29 Nov 2014 .They were killed by a Tliban. Werner was a Pastor and they moved from Pretoria to Afghanistan. Only the wife Dr Hannelie GROENEWALD is alive .She was at a clinic. Her sister lives in Pretoria Riana DU PLESSIS.

MAZIBUKO Bheki + 29 Nov 2014. He was stabbed to death in Langkloof in Bergville. He was deputy mayor of uThukela District

PLAYER Ian Cedric * 15 March 1927. His father was a gold miner . His mother‟s name was Muriel. His great-grandfather emigrated to KZN from England in 1850 .He married the stepdaughter of Trekker leader Gert MARITZ. Brother to Gary.Ian married Anne nee FARRER in 1957. Father of Kenneth, Jessica and Amyas. Writen by Tony CARNIE. The Mercury.

WOODFORD nee REYNOLDS Rosemary Claire (Rosie) + 28 Nov 2014. Mother of Clayton and Gareth . Love to Clayton and Gareth, to Lynn, to John who has been a tower of strengh during this time. Also love to Kevin, Rodney, Michelle and Dean –her friends. From her sister Gaye, sister-in-law and aunt of Martin, Wade and Pauline.

MEMORIAM:- BARNARD Gloria. 5 year gone now. From Denny, Sharon and Alan.

GOVENDER Roy + 1 Dec 1989 tragically. Husband of Rishie. Father of Prenesen & Lishern.

MURUVAN Viloshnee 4 May 1957 ----30 Nov 2007. Missed by Vis MURUVAN , Vilen and Kuvesh.

Gegroet uit Durban Winderig en redelik koel. Rita Quebbemann.

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6863 Datum: Tue Dec 2, 2014 Daar is 3 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1a Re: FW: [SA-Gen] Angela van Bengale - vroulike DNA by "Elizabeth Heyns" [email protected] 1b Re: FW: [SA-Gen] Angela van Bengale - vroulike DNA by "Ockert Malan" 2a Re: Chrismar Villas: LASSEN-RADEMAN-CLAUSEN by "Elizabeth Heyns" [email protected]

Messages

1a Re: FW: [SA-Gen] Angela van Bengale - vroulike DNA Tue Dec 2, 2014 12:07 am (PST) . Posted by: "Elizabeth Heyns" [email protected]

Ockert,

Ek hou my meestal net op met die vrouens en Angila is my 8th gr grandmother en my man se 9th gr grandmother maar om nou die nasaat te vind met die mtDNS. Daardie een sal of van Anna x Olof BERGH, Elsie x Renier VAN DER SANDE of Maria x Christiaan MAASDORP moet afstam. My data v.d. afstammelinge van bg dogters einding meesal hier by laat 1800s.

Groetnis, Elizabeth

On Tuesday, 2 December 2014 5:33 AM, "Chris Hendriks [email protected] [SAGenealogie]" wrote:

Hallo Vriende

Terwyl ons by Angela van Bengale is benodig ek ook hulp aub. Volgens SAG vol 3 is Johannes Heyne (Jan Hein) v. Luxemburg a. 1782 † c. 1820 x 22.9.1793 Johanna Jacoba HENDRIKS d.v. Jan Adam Hendriks en Elizabeth v.d.K. Ek aanvaar dat daar sekerlik meer as een Elizabeth was. Het iemand asseblief inligting oor hierdie dame?

Baie dankie Chris

2014-12-01 8:42 GMT+02:00 'Dennis Pretorius' [email protected] [SAGenealogie] :

Aangestuur vir die wat net die eerdte deel kon lees.

Groetnis Dennis Pretorius

From: "[email protected] [SAGenealogie]" Date:30/11/2014 14:30 (GMT+02:00) To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Angela van Bengale - vroulike DNA

Is daar dalk iemand in ons groep wie se voorouer in hulle direkte moederslyn (matroniem) Angela van Bengale is (x Arnoldus Basson, voorheen slavin van Jan van Riebeeck), en wat reeds hulle (en dus haar) mtDNA laat ontleed het en bereid is om my te sê wat hulle/haar mtDNA haplotipe is?

(Ek het 'n navraag van iemand waarmee ek probeer help)

Groete, Martina Louw. (Brisbane)

1b Re: FW: [SA-Gen] Angela van Bengale - vroulike DNA Tue Dec 2, 2014 12:28 am (PST) . Posted by: "Ockert Malan"

Elizabeth,

Is die enigste vrou wat my uitdaging aanvaar?

Jy het seker al agtergekom dis nie 'n maklike taak nie, maar tog nie onmoontlik nie.

Daar duik allerhande verrassings op.

Byt vas en sterkte!

Groete, Ockert

On 2 December 2014 at 10:07, Elizabeth Heyns [email protected] [SAGenealogie] wrote:

> Ockert,

Ek hou my meestal net op met die vrouens [image: *:) happy] en > Angila is my 8th gr grandmother en my man se 9th gr grandmother maar om nou > die nasaat te vind met die mtDNS. > Daardie een sal of van Anna x Olof BERGH, Elsie x Renier VAN DER SANDE of > Maria x Christiaan MAASDORP moet afstam. > My data v.d. afstammelinge van bg dogters einding meesal hier by laat > 1800s. > > Groetnis, > Elizabeth > > > On Tuesday, 2 December 2014 5:33 AM, "Chris Hendriks > [email protected] [SAGenealogie]" > wrote: > > Hallo Vriende

> Terwyl ons by Angela van Bengale is benodig ek ook hulp aub. Volgens SAG > vol 3 is Johannes Heyne (Jan Hein) v. Luxemburg a. 1782 † c. 1820 x > 22.9.1793 Johanna Jacoba HENDRIKS d.v. Jan Adam Hendriks en Elizabeth > v.d.K. Ek aanvaar dat daar sekerlik meer as een Elizabeth was. Het iemand > asseblief inligting oor hierdie dame?

> Baie dankie > Chris > > 2014-12-01 8:42 GMT+02:00 'Dennis Pretorius' [email protected] > [SAGenealogie] : > > Aangestuur vir die wat net die eerdte deel kon lees. > > Groetnis > Dennis Pretorius

> > From: "[email protected] [SAGenealogie]" > Date:30/11/2014 14:30 (GMT+02:00) > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SA-Gen] Angela van Bengale - vroulike DNA > > Is daar dalk iemand in ons groep wie se voorouer in hulle direkte > moederslyn (matroniem) Angela van Bengale is (x Arnoldus Basson, voorheen > slavin van Jan van Riebeeck), en wat reeds hulle (en dus haar) mtDNA laat > ontleed het en bereid is om my te sê wat hulle/haar mtDNA haplotipe is? > > (Ek het 'n navraag van iemand waarmee ek probeer help) > > Groete, > Martina Louw. > (Brisbane)

2a Re: Chrismar Villas: LASSEN-RADEMAN-CLAUSEN Tue Dec 2, 2014 12:21 am (PST) . Posted by: "Elizabeth Heyns" [email protected]

Colin,

Ek het juis op jul facebook blad Western Cape Germans afgekom. Interessant en dalk van waarde vir ander om te weet. My suster is getroud met Wilhelm BUHR.

Groetnis, Elizabeth Hanekom-Heyns

On Monday, 1 December 2014 9:14 AM, "'Martie du Toit' [email protected] [SAGenealogie]" wrote:

Aanvanklike navraag:

Elaine Marian LASSEN is die dogter van Carl August Gottfried LASSEN * Philippi 8.9.1916 + Kaapstad Groote Schuur Hospitaal 22.8.1992 # Maitland x Ottery 21 Feb 1942 Maria Magdalena RADEMAN * Bredasdorp 4.8.1923 + Wetton 16.3.1980 d.v. Dirk Rademan van Malgas, Bredasdorp en Elizabeth Swart Carl August Gottfried LASSEN is die seun van Christian Carstens Dietrich * Phillipi 9.7.1891 + 14.4.1982 x Sine CLAUSEN * 6.6.1893 + 19.5.1969 Colin ek antwoord na jou persoonlike adres. Dit lyk of die Lassens en die Clausens „n paar persone se aandag getrek het. Ek soek egter nog data oor die Rademans en Swart as iemand daaroor beskik Martie du Toit Bellville 021 945 3356 / 0835970165 Du Toit b5c1d1e8f6g3h5i1j1 - Naudé a2b1c4d1e4f2g1[h1] Navorser Van Rooyen-familie, nageslag van Anthonius van Rooyen (Noordkaap) http://www.vanrooyen.safamilytree.com/2_Anthonius/Anthonius_1_Herkoms.htm Medewerker Dixons van Namakwaland

From: mailto:[email protected] Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 9:27 PMTo: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] Chrismar Villas: LASSEN-RADEMAN-CLAUSEN

b4 Christian Carsten Dietrich Lassen * 9.7.1891 boer van Philippi + 14.4.1982 Maitland begraafplaas begrawe x Philippi 4.1.1916 Gesine Clausen * 6.6.1893 + 19.5.1969 Maitland begrawec1 Carl August Gottfried Lassen * 8.9.1916 Marriondale Claremont Vlakte, ~ 1.10.1916 Philippi + 22.8.1992 x Maria Magdalena Rademan *ca.1920 + 1980 beide in Maitland begrawec2 Walter Friedrich Christian Lassen * 10.12.1917 Claremont Vlakte, ~ 1.1.1918 Philippi c3 Gesine Cecilie Marie Lassen * 22.11.1919, ~ 28.12.1919 Philippi c4 Alfred Oskar Lassen * 23.12.1921, ~ 3.2.1922 Philippi later na Krugersdorp verhuis x Martha Cathrina NN * 26.6.1924 + 27.8.2005 Krugersdorp

From: [email protected] [SAGenealogie] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] Chrismar Villas: LASSEN-RADEMAN-CLAUSEN

Beste Martie

Die twee Phillipi-families laat mens dink aan die Duitse groenteboere. Ek weet Colin Mohr stam ook uit hulle en as ek reg onthou is hy betrokke by wyer navorsing oor hulle.

Groete Daniel Jacobs

From: "'Martie du Toit' [email protected] [SAGenealogie]" Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 08:30:07 +0200 Subject: [SA-Gen] Chrismar Villas: LASSEN-RADEMAN-CLAUSEN

Vriende

Ek het die volgende familie van wie ek niks in SAF/SAF kan opspoor nie. Te jonk vir NAAIRS. Maar dalk is daar iemand op SAGen wat inligting het. Elaine Marian LASSEN is die dogter van Carl August Gottfried LASSEN * Philippi 8.9.1916 + Kaapstad Groote Schuur Hospitaal 22.8.1992 # Maitland x Ottery 21 Feb 1942 Maria Magdalena RADEMAN * Bredasdorp 4.8.1923 + Wetton 16.3.1980 d.v. Dirk Rademan van Malgas, Bredasdorp en Elizabeth Swart Carl August Gottfried LASSEN is die seun van Christian Carstens Dietrich * Phillipi 9.7.1891 + 14.4.1982 x Sine CLAUSEN * 6.6.1893 + 19.5.1969

Baie dankie Martie Martie du Toit Bellville 021 945 3356 / 0835970165 Du Toit b5c1d1e8f6g3h5i1j1 - Naud� a2b1c4d1e4f2g1[h1] Navorser Van Rooyen-familie, nageslag van Anthonius van Rooyen (Noordkaap) http://www.vanrooyen.safamilytree.com/2_Anthonius/Anthonius_1_Herkoms.htm Medewerker Dixons van Namakwaland

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6864 Datum: Tue Dec 2, 2014 Daar is 7 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1a Zietsman- kenner by "Eddie Otte" otte.eddie 1b Re: Zietsman- kenner by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000 2 FW: e- SAGI DVD by "Dennis Pretorius" 3 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 02 Desembe 2014 by "Hester Marx" 4 DNS Ontledings by "Ferdie van Wyk" 5 NIENKEMPER by "Fanie Buys" fbuys1968 6 [Press] Daily News Tues 2 Dec 2014 by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

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1a Zietsman- kenner Tue Dec 2, 2014 3:54 am (PST) . Posted by: "Eddie Otte" otte.eddie

Lysvriende,

Ek soek asseblief hulp by „n ZIETSMAN-kenner. Kan iemand my asseblief help met inligting van

1. Coenraad Frederik ZIETSMAN * 5.6.1868 ≈ Pietermaritzburg 4.10.1868 † Zuurfontein, Kempton Park 5.4.1954,

2. Matthys Hendrik Zietsman X Maria Magdalena Frederika Meyer.

3. Paul Ludwig ZIETSMAN * 1906 X Durban 5.9.1930 Johanna Isabella Moll * 1909.

Asseblief.

Eddie Otte Rustenburg 014 533 1318 en 081 042 0299 OTTE, MOLL, LOMBARD, VAN NIEKERK, VILJOEN

1b Re: Zietsman- kenner Tue Dec 2, 2014 5:45 am (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

B6 Philip Johannes ZIETSMAN x Maria Hendrina GROVE.

C1 Paul Hermanus = 6 Nov 1814 x 28 Dec 1835 Magdalena Petronella MARAIS

D4 Matthys Hendrik ZIETSMAN * 14 Sep 1843 = 29 Oct 1843 sterf 22 Mar 1905.

X 2 Apr 1867 Maria Magdalena Fredericka MEYER.

(Afrikaners in Natal – B. Cilliers) From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 02 December 2014 01:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Zietsman- kenner

Lysvriende,

Ek soek asseblief hulp by „n ZIETSMAN-kenner. Kan iemand my asseblief help met inligting van

1. Coenraad Frederik ZIETSMAN * 5.6.1868 ≈ Pietermaritzburg 4.10.1868 † Zuurfontein, Kempton Park 5.4.1954, x Wesselina Andrea Johanna MOLL.

2. Matthys Hendrik Zietsman X Maria Magdalena Frederika Meyer.

3. Paul Ludwig ZIETSMAN * 1906 X Durban 5.9.1930 Johanna Isabella Moll * 1909.

Asseblief.

Eddie Otte Rustenburg 014 533 1318 en 081 042 0299 OTTE, MOLL, LOMBARD, VAN NIEKERK, VILJOEN

2 FW: e- SAGI DVD Tue Dec 2, 2014 6:39 am (PST) . Posted by: "Dennis Pretorius"

Vir jou inligting

Dennis Pretorius Krugersdorp South Africa Tel - 011-762-8911 Cel - 083-679-8541 Fax - 086-609-8541

From: Dennis Pretorius [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 4:39 PM To: 'Theodorus Maree' Subject: FW: e- SAGI DVD

Hallo Theodorus

By die tyd dat jy hierdie e-pos ontvang behoort die CD by PostNet by Waterfall Mall te wees.

Laat my asb weet sodra jy dit ontvang het sodat ek nie verder hoef bekommerd te wees nie

Groetnis

Dennis Pretorius Krugersdorp South Africa Tel - 011-762-8911 Cel - 083-679-8541 Fax - 086-609-8541

From: Dennis Pretorius [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 4:33 PM To: 'Theodorus Maree' Subject: RE: e- SAGI DVD

Hallo Theodorus

Ek neem aan jy is dus reeds in Suid Afrika ?

Ek het vanoggend die DVD per PostNet na die Waterfall Mall gestuur vir jou aandag - met jou vrou se selnommer

Ek heg die bewys hierby aan tesame met die kwitansie vir R 99 vir die koerierdiens.

Laat weet asb wanneer jy dit inbetaal het en stuur dan sommer die betalingsbewys vir die oorspronklike DVD saam.

Ons pos het vanoggend by ons begin aankom - as die oorspronklike DVD by jou aankom kan jy dit maar weggooi of wat ookal jy daarmee wil doen

Groetnis

Dennis Pretorius Krugersdorp South Africa Tel - 011-762-8911 Cel - 083-679-8541 Fax - 086-609-8541

From: Theodorus Maree [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 9:24 AM To: Dennis Pretorius Subject: e- SAGI DVD

Dennis

Goeie dag

Het jy die DVD al versend? Wat is die spoor nommer van die pakkie?

Groete Theodorus

From: Theodorus Maree Sent: 19 November 2014 09:18 PM To: 'Dennis Pretorius' Subject: RE: e- SAGI DVD

Olienhoutlaan 38 Proteapark Rustenburg My vrou se tel nommer 083 321 1604 of 014 5330978

From: Dennis Pretorius [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 19 November 2014 08:49 PM To: Theodorus Maree Subject: RE: e- SAGI DVD

Hallo Theodorus

Waar kan ek die DVD vir jou laat aflewer ?

Groetnis

Dennis Pretorius Krugersdorp South Africa Tel - 011-762-8911 Cel - 083-679-8541 Fax - 086-609-8541

From: Theodorus Maree [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: FW: e- SAGI DVD

Dennis

Goeie dag

Danksy die Poskantoor staking het ek nog nie my DVD. Kan jy die DVD op n ander manier versend, ek is bereid om vir nog n DVD te betaal? Ek kom volgende week SA toe vir 3 weke.

Groete Theodorus

From: Theodorus Maree Sent: 11 September 2014 03:05 PM To: 'Dennis Pretorius' Subject: RE: e- SAGI DVD

Dennis

Goeie dag

Hoe gaan dit daar? Hier is dit baie warm in die DRK.

Danksy die Poskantoor staking het ek nog nie my DVD ontvang. Ek kom die naweek SA toe en hoop dit in dan beskikbaar.

Lekker dag Theodorus

From: Dennis Pretorius [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 07 August, 2014 09:40 PM To: Theodorus Maree Subject: RE: e- SAGI DVD

Hallo Theodorus

Ek probeer om dit sommer more te pos

Groetnis

Dennis Pretorius Krugersdorp South Africa Tel - 011-762-8911 Cel - 083-679-8541 Fax - 086-609-8541

From: Theodorus Maree [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: e- SAGI DVD

Goeie dag Dennis

Ek het gisteraand R165 in GGSA West Gauteng se rekening in betaal vir die nuutste e Sage.

Ek het reeds V6( DVD016). Ek kom volgende Saterdag vir 2 weke SA toe.

My posadres:

. Posbus 20918 . Proteapark . 0305

Groete Theodorus

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3 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 02 Desembe 2014 Tue Dec 2, 2014 7:07 am (PST) . Posted by: "Hester Marx"

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DALTON, Johan (Dallies). +Donderdag 27 November 2014. Ek sal jou vir ewig in my hart dra – André Baie dankie vir alles wat Dad vir ons gedoen het – Heidi en Morné Jy sal altyd in ons harte wees – Rodwell, Linda, Cherise en Dylan VAN DER WESTHUIZEN-gesin, Gert, Mattie, Rudi en Chris, betreur heengaan van Mattie se broer, Johan. Ons sal jou altyd mis – Leon, Linda, Wynand & Bianca, Marelize & Riaan en Elandre Ek gaan jou entoesiasme vir die lewe en lekker geselsies mis – Willie, Cecilia en Micheline. My oudste seun en steunpilaar. Rus in vrede – Ma Dalton Ek gaan Pappa baie mis – Dogter Liesl

Teraardebestelling Woensdag 03 Desember 2014 10:00 op die plaas Weltevreden. Kom bymekaar by Dalton‟s Bodyworks, Fort Beaufort om 09:30. Pad plaas-toe is sleg - slegs bakkies en 4x4‟s Kerkdiens Woensdag 03 Desember 2014 14:00 NG Kerk Fort Beaufort (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 02/12/2014) Von der Decken Begrafnisondernemers, Fort Beaufort 046 645 1898

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4 DNS Ontledings Tue Dec 2, 2014 7:23 am (PST) . Posted by: "Ferdie van Wyk"

Goeiemiddag Almal,

Jaco Strauss se artkel DNS Ontleding: My persoonlike ervaring is nou by hierdie skakel beskikbaar in beide Afrikaans en Engels. http://www.genza.org.za/index.php/en/head-office/articles-of-general-interest

Ferdie van Wyk Webbestuurder/Web Manager: www.genza.org.za Centurion

5 NIENKEMPER Tue Dec 2, 2014 11:08 am (PST) . Posted by: "Fanie Buys" fbuys1968

Naand Lyslede

Enige iemand wat aan die NIENKEMPER familie werk. Ongeveer 1975 was daar so familie in Queenstown gewees.

Groete

Fanie Buys Posbus 2924 Sasolburg 0829296695 Vanne: Buys, de Buys, Coetzee 6 [Press] Daily News Tues 2 Dec 2014 Tue Dec 2, 2014 9:29 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:-" Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards. " - Soren KIEKEGAARD.

"It is not how much we have but how much we enjoy that makes happiness." -Charles H SPURGEON.

ENGAGEMENTS:- COCBURN -BAKER Kevin & Stella announce engagement of their daughter Jessica to Julian, son of Kay & Gordon BAKER of Grahamstown.

DEATHS:-CRASH on SUNDAY in a bakkie and a truck:-

ZIKHALI Thembani + 30 Nov 2014 (9). Son of Mbongeni They are from Mseleni Northern KZN.

ZIKHALI Nkosinathi +30 Nov 2014 (40)

ZIKHALI Khethabakhe (driver 36)

ZIKHALI Bhekizenzo (35)

ZIKHALE Thulile (36)

ZIKHALE Sithembiso (35)

NCAPHALALA Bheki (36)

MANUZA Amanda (24)

MLAMBO Sithembiso (26)

GUMEDE Bhekuyise (35)

BECK Joan Daphne 19 Oct 1929 -----29 Nov 2014 in Essenwood Home x + Lesley BECK. Mother of Gavin and Keith. Grandmother of Colin and Tanya, Lauren and Eryn. Memorial at Essenwood Home on Friday at 10:30am.

BISHOP Natalie. To Bob and family our condolences from Gordon and Barbara, Rob, Flo, Philip and Rose.

HARPER Margaret Rose 13 Feb 1931 ----28 Nov 2014 tragically x + Alec. Mother of Alex and Ann and + Thomas (son). Mother-in-law, grand and great-grandmother, sister and aunt.

HILL Clement William Henry (Pat) 21 Aug 1925 ------29 Nov 2014 x Kathy. Father of Greg and + Alec. Brother of + Jack, Lesley and Mary. Uncle of Anthony, Lindy, John and Jane.

JENSEN Shirley Helen 10 Nov 1929 ----26 Nov 2014 x Karl. Mother of Tanya, Debi and Gordon, Michael Michael and Annetta. Grandmother of Gayli, Kim, Carlin and Marius, Matthew and James. Great-gran of Chloe, Allyssa, Jayme and Skye.

LOMAX James Crompton (Jim). Memorial at Wesley Methodist Church Pietermaritzburg on 4 Dec 2014 at 2pm. OAKLEIGH 033 3426116

McKEE Mac 1 Oct 1923 ------29 Nov 2014. Will be missed by family. Cremation private. SHANLEY'S 031 2057644.

NAIDOO Vadival (V.G.) of Gunston Gardens + 30 Nov 2014 + Dayanithie. Father of Kethamonie and Devamonie. Grandfather of Gareth and Ashley. Funeral on 3 Dec 2014 at Clare Estate Crematorium from 4pm ---5:30pm.

NELSON Norman Alphonse x Anna. Father, grandfather and great-grandfather. Requiem Mass on 3 Dec 2014 at St Anne's Church Sydenham at 10:30am. Private Cremation.

NORTJE Clifford Schalk . Memorial at Westville Baptist Church on 2 Dec 2014 at 10am. AVBOB 031 2061831.

PIETERSE Elwyn Martin 7 March 1942 ----30 Nov 2014. Contact is Craig for info. TEL:- 082 5659476. SHANLEY'S 031 2057644.

PILLAY Vija x Danny. Mother of Selina & Tanya, son Tyrone, grandaughters. Mother-in-law and family. 16th Day Memorial at The Kharwastan Civic Hall on 4 Dec 2014 . Supper at 6pm Service at 7pm.

PILLAY Denzille x Yashini. Father of Danika and Aarya. 16th Day Memorial at Kharwastan Civic Hall on 4 Dec 2014 Supper at 5pm Service 7pm.

PRESTO Robert (Bob) 28 March 1937 ----23 Nov 2014. Father and grandfather of Steven, Tracey, Bruce, Bianca, Peter, Xavier and Ren. Funeral at St Joseph's Catholic Church Howick on 3 Dec 2014 at 10:30am No flowers. OAKLEIGH 033 3426116.

RANDELHOFF Leigh Anna 20 Dec 1967 ----26 Nov 2014 x Rowen. Mother to Wesley and Dillon. Daughter of Noellette. Funeral at The Methodist Church Northdene Queensburgh on 3 Dec 2014 at 2pm. DOVES 0860025500.

TAIT Joyce + 30 Nov 2014.From the family.

VON BUDDENBROCK Emil Ernst 1938 ----1 Dec 2014 x Terry. Father of Julian, Danielle, Mandy ,Nick. Grandfather of Mackenzie and Jack.

MEMORIAMS:- ANTONIO CASIMIRO JOSE . Husband of Daisy, father and grandfather. Gone 10 years now.

BUCKNER Mike. 1 year gone now . Love from Liz.

HAWKINS Geraldine Margaret. Mother of Sydni (daughter) . Mom Merle and Grant and family.

TAYLOR Jeanette Julia 15 July 1945 -----2 Dec 2008. From Reg.

Sterk wind alweer in Durban, groete Rita Quebbemann. Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6865 Datum: Wed Dec 3, 2014 Daar is 7 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1a Re: [TAB] DEC- OPSOEK : Sk. vir John George MOORE. by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000 2a Frederik Daniel Nel Voortrekker by "Ansie Wilson" ansiewilson 2b Re: Frederik Daniel Nel Voortrekker by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000 3 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 03 Desember 2014 by "Hester Marx" 4 [Press] The Mercury Wed 3 Dec 2014 by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

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1a Re: [TAB] DEC- OPSOEK : Sk. vir John George MOORE. Wed Dec 3, 2014 3:17 am (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

Hallo Johan,

Die SK van die ander boedel.

Groetnis. Annelie.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 29 November 2014 08:22 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: [TAB] DEC- OPSOEK : Sk. vir John George MOORE.

Naand Lyslede,

Is daar dalk een van ons lede wat vir my die sk. van oolede ouma se broer, John George MOORE, asook die van sy vrou ,besonderhede soos onder, kan bekom asb.

Sal opreg waardeer. Groete Johan Vermeulen

DEPOT TAB SOURCE MHG TYPE LEER SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 544/66 PART 1 DESCRIPTION MOORE, JOHN GEORGE. STARTING 19660000 ENDING 19660000 REMARKS PREDECEASED SPOUSES 1) ALICE HARRIET MOORE (BORN DAWSON) 2) MARGARETHA CORNELIA CHRISTINA MOORE (FORMERLY MALAN BORN ESTHERHUIZEN).

7856/58 MOORE, ALICE HARRIET 2a Frederik Daniel Nel Voortrekker Wed Dec 3, 2014 7:27 am (PST) . Posted by: "Ansie Wilson" ansiewilson

Is daar dalk 'n Nel navorser wat my asb kan inligting gee oor bg Voortrekker.

Sal waardeer Ansie Wilson Nel/Wilken

2b Re: Frederik Daniel Nel Voortrekker Wed Dec 3, 2014 10:01 am (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

Ansie,

In die Voortrekkerstamouers van Jan C. Visagie.

Frederik Daniel Nel b10c10d4 = 6 Mar 1803 x /Graaff-Reinet 7 Mar 1824 Anna Susanna LOOTS xx Uitenhage 17 Sep 1833 Isabella Petronella Labuschagne.

Woonplek: Dist Uitenhage.

Vertrekdatum: Reeds in 1842 in die Winburg omgewing.

Groetnis.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 03 December 2014 05:27 PM To: sagenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] Frederik Daniel Nel Voortrekker

Is daar dalk 'n Nelnavorser wat my asb kan inligting gee oor bg Voortrekker.

Sal waardeer Ansie Wilson Nel/Wilken

3 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 03 Desember 2014 Wed Dec 3, 2014 8:04 am (PST) . Posted by: "Hester Marx"

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HAMMOND, Martha Jacoba (Ou-vrou). +Saterdag 29 November 2014. Man Charles, seun Anton, Dianne, Wesley, Kelly en Ashley, seun Theo, Charon, Nicole (Chippy), Andrew, Nikki en seuns. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 03/12/2014) Kevin, Fig Tree Funeral Home 041 367 3540

WOLMARANS, Catrina Maria (Rina). +Maandag 01 Desember 2014. Kinders, kleinkinders, agterkleinkinders. Begrafnisdiens Vrydag 05 Desember 2014 11:00 NG Kerk Loerie. NG Kerk Loerie-begraafplaas. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 03/12/2014) Paul Koekemoer AVBOB Port Elizabeth 041 484 2731

Hester Marx, Loerie [email protected]

4 [Press] The Mercury Wed 3 Dec 2014 Wed Dec 3, 2014 10:00 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:- “Everyone sees what you appear to be, few really know who you are. “ – Florentian Renaissance historian, diplomat, philosopher nd humanitarian Niccolo MACHIEVELLI (1469 ----1527).

MARRIAGES:- CHETTY Muggy & Deshnie married at Orissa Inn Hall Umkomaas. (photo)

CORREIA Wayne & Laura married at Westville Baptist Church. (photo)

DU TREVOU Chris & Shannon married at Our Lady of Fathima Parish , Durban North. (photo).

FORTUIN Gareth & Louise VAN DER MERWE married at Palm Dune Blythdale Beach. (photo),

HERBERT James & Netanya GODFREY married at Zimbali Country ClubKZN North Coast. (photo).

OAKLEY Grant & Delwynne MACNAIR married at Zimbali Country Club. KZN North Coast. (photo).

OXFORD Gareth & Venesia KYMDELL married at Palm Dune, Blythdale Beach. (photo)

RAJAGOPAUL Clement & Seshni GOVENDER married at Collisheen Estate , Ballito.(photo)

RAMNARIAN Nikhil & Bhavna married at Kendra Hall Durban. (photo).

DEATHS:- ALDERSON Sylvie Maria. Funeral at Waterfall Methodist Church on 4 Dec 2014. OAKLEIGH 031 2059959.

ARMITAGE Basil Percy + 27 Nov 2014 , partner , companion of Erica. Father of Alison,Michael, Barry. Grandfather of Michaela ,Greg, Abby and Fynn. Celebration of his life at Durban Country Club on 5 Dec 2014 at 10:30am.

DONNELLEY Adrian Cedric + 2 Dec 2014 in a car crash. He was 34 years. He was a paramedic at Rescue Care. Was was partner to Kim Erica Louis for 8 years. They have a 4 year old daughter and he has a son from a previous relationship. He was not driving but sitting in the back seat of the car.

EMSLIE Gladys Jane 6 Feb 1923 ---1 Dec 2014 x + Gordon. Mother of + Louise, Deanne, Peter & Sharon. Grand and great-grandmother and great-great-grandmother. Funeral at Athlone Park Methodist Church Warner Beach.

GELLÉ Franҫois. RIP and sympathy to family from DUNWOOD Family. ; Requiem Mass at Our Lady of fathima Catholic Church Durban North at 3:30 pm on 5 Dec 2014. SHANLEY‟S.

GUY Albert and Herbert . Two brothers died within 2 months of one another.

Albert * 23 Nov 1961 ----+ 28 Sept 2014

Herbert * 30 May 1960 ---+ 27 Nov 2014. Brothers of Norma and Karen. Uncles to Bryce , Lloyd and Nicole. HEYSEN Joe + 30 Nov 2014 in Australia x Vera. Father to Wendy, Victor, Judy and grandfather to Mandy. He was 92 years old..

LE COURT DE BILLOT Marie Joseph Christian + 27 Nov 2014 x Jenny . Father to Melissa, Geraldine , Julianne and Christopher.

LINDSAY Jean Dagmar 9 May 1947 -----1 Dec 2014. Sister to Malcolm. Godmother to Cathryn, Sally and Christopher; Friend of Keith, Merneen and family; Memorial at Epworth School Chapel Pietermaritzburg on 4 Dec 2014 at 10am. No flowers. OAKLEIGH 033 3426116.

MASINGA Patrick D 14 Dec 1973 ----23 Nov 2014 . Funeral at Sholom Church Newlands East at 10am on 4 Dec 2014 . Burial at Dudley Street Cemetery Wentworth. MARTIN‟S 031 3128095.

NASH Ivan 6 March 1951 ---29 Nov 2014 . Memorial on 5 Dec 2014 at The Westville Methodist Church at 2:30pm. DOVES 0860025500.

PLAYER Ian 15 March 1927 ----30 Nov 2014. Husband ,father ,grandfather and brother.

RAJAH MV x + Thaya. Father of Rajan, Julie and Vinay. Father-in-law of Rajes, Rajen and Marcel. Grandfather of Nivashnee, Nichlan, Raquel and Micah. Brother of + Tommy, Angie and Pushpa. Funeral on 3 Dec 2014. Body will lie in state at Sithi Vinayagar Temple from 11am ----2:30pm. Proceeding to Kenilworth Cemetery. Memorial Service at Temple hall on 7 Dec 2014 at Sithi Vinayagar Temple from 10:30---11:30.

REDDY Mangamma . 16th Day Memorial on 7 Dec 2014 at the Wyebank Temple Hall at 18h00.

SPENCELEY Keith 11 July 1946 ----30 Nov 2014 . Brother of Marlene , George and Wilfred. Memorial at Old Apostolic Church Malvern on 6 Dec 2014 at 10am.

STAYT formally SMIT nee HADLEY 3 May 1926 ---27 Nov 2014. Mother , Johan and Claire , Inge Paul and Carol, David and Dale grand and great-grandmother. Memorial at Amberglen Sanctuary, Amberglen Retirement Village Howick on 6 Dec 2014 at 11am. OAKLEIGH 033 3426116.

VENTER Roelof 22 March 1945 ---28 Nov 2014 . Memorial at Chapel of Natal Settlers Retirement Village on 8 Dec 2014 at 13h00. Cremation private. AVBOB 031 2061931.

VISAGIE Basil . Funeral at Elim Church Bluff on 4 Dec 2014 at 10am. Cremation Private. DOVES 0860025500.

VORSTER Ann 11 April 1938 ---1 Dec 2014. I will miss you Princess Ann on my visits to TAFTA Lodge from Evelyn.

YOUNG Paul Vivian 1925 ---1 Dec 2014. Memorial at Emmerson House Morningside on 6 Dec 2014 at 10am. BELL Funerals 031 3014793.

MEMORIAM :- AUSUSTIN REECE COPPER . 8 years gone now. Remembered by Mum, Petty and daughter Tamie.

DAVE PRIOR + 3 Dec 2001.. Remembered by Hetty and Charmaine.

Gegroet uit sonskyn Durban ligte wind. Rita Quebbemann.

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6866 Datum: Thu Dec 4, 2014 Daar is 3 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1a Re: Zietsman- kenner by "Eddie Otte" otte.eddie 2a Worcester dope by debbie_pretorius1981 2b Re: Worcester dope by "Marietta" mariettavanzyl

Messages

1a Re: Zietsman- kenner Thu Dec 4, 2014 5:13 am (PST) . Posted by: "Eddie Otte" otte.eddie

Annelie,

Baie baie dankie. Ek waardeer.

Eddie Otte Rustenburg 014 533 1318 en 081 042 0299 OTTE, MOLL, LOMBARD, VAN NIEKERK, VILJOEN

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 02 December 2014 03:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] Zietsman- kenner

B6 Philip Johannes ZIETSMAN x Maria Hendrina GROVE. C1 Paul Hermanus = 6 Nov 1814 x 28 Dec 1835 Magdalena Petronella MARAIS D4 Matthys Hendrik ZIETSMAN * 14 Sep 1843 = 29 Oct 1843 sterf 22 Mar 1905. X 2 Apr 1867 Maria Magdalena Fredericka MEYER.

(Afrikaners in Natal – B. Cilliers)

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 02 December 2014 01:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Zietsman- kenner

Lysvriende,

Ek soek asseblief hulp by „n ZIETSMAN-kenner. Kan iemand my asseblief help met inligting van

1. Coenraad Frederik ZIETSMAN * 5.6.1868 ≈ Pietermaritzburg 4.10.1868 † Zuurfontein, Kempton Park 5.4.1954, x Wesselina Andrea Johanna MOLL. 2. Matthys Hendrik Zietsman X Maria Magdalena Frederika Meyer. 3. Paul Ludwig ZIETSMAN * 1906 X Durban 5.9.1930 Johanna Isabella Moll * 1909.

Asseblief. Eddie Otte Rustenburg 014 533 1318 en 081 042 0299 OTTE, MOLL, LOMBARD, VAN NIEKERK, VILJOEN

2a Worcester dope Thu Dec 4, 2014 7:18 am (PST) . Posted by: debbie_pretorius1981

Goeiedag almal.

Ek is opsoek na van die Liebenberg kinders van Frederik Willem Liebenberg en Maria Elizabeth Magdalena de Wet.

Hulle is getroud in 1847 in vermoedelik Tulbagh en die eerste kinders wat ek van weet is gebore vanaf 1860. En hulle is dan die ma se pa en oupa se name gegee so daar is vermiste kinders wat voor 1860 gebore moes wees. Hulle 4de kind (Lourens Petrus) is in Worcester gebore dus sal ek moet gaan soek tussen Worcester en Tulbagh se doopinskrywings.

Waar gaan soek ek daarna? Ek het geen idee nie. Enige raad sal ek vreeslik waardeer.

Groete Debbie Pretorius Rustenburg

2b Re: Worcester dope Thu Dec 4, 2014 8:04 am (PST) . Posted by: "Marietta" mariettavanzyl

Ek stuur Jacobus Francois sin direk (1847)

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 5:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Worcester dope

Goeiedag almal.

Ek is opsoek na van die Liebenberg kinders van Frederik Willem Liebenberg en Maria Elizabeth Magdalena de Wet.

Waar gaan soek ek daarna? Ek het geen idee nie. Enige raad sal ek vreeslik waardeer.

Groete Debbie Pretorius Rustenburg Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6867 Datum: Fri Dec 5, 2014 Daar is 9 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 04 Desember 2014 by "Hester Marx" 2 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 05 Desember 2014 by "Hester Marx" 3a COX by "Johanna Gutter" johannagutter 3b Re: COX by "Lucas Rinken" lucas.rinken 4 [PRESS] Beeld 03 Des.2014.doc by "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie 5 [PRESS] Beeld 04 Des.2014.doc by "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie 6 [Press] The Mercury Fri 5 Dec 2014. by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 7 NAVORSING TEEN BETALING IN PRETORIA: DE LA REY EN GREEFF by "Daniel Jacobs" danielmalanjacobs 8 [Press] The Mercury Fri 5 Dec 2014 CREDITORS...... by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Messages

1 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 04 Desember 2014 Fri Dec 5, 2014 4:59 am (PST) . Posted by: "Hester Marx"

Sterfgvalle

BOTES, Johannes Jurgens (Ouboet). 78 jaar. +Maandag 01 Desember 2014. Kinders, kleinkinders. Gedenkdiens Vrydag 05 Desember 2014 10:00 NG Kerk Sondagsrivier, Kirkwood. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 04/12/2014) J T Schooling, Kirkwood 042 2300 508

CROUSE. Hilton George. Gedenkdiens Vrydag 05 Desember 2014 13:00 NG Kerk Kompleks (Wavecrest), Jeffreysbaai. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 04/12/2014)

HAMMOND, Martha Jacoba (Ou-vrou). +Saterdag 29 November 2014. Roudiens Vrydag 05 Desember 2014 14:30 Evangelisasiesentrum, Cleeveweg, Cotswold. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 04/12/2014) Kevin, Fig Tree Funeral Home 041 367 3540

NIEWOUDT, Maureen. Mammie dit was te vinnig, ons gaan Mammie mis, Zenobia, Joan, Sanet, 3 skoonseuns, 12 kleinkinders, 2 agterkleinkinders, broer Trevor en suster Janet. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 04/12/2014)

Hester Marx, Loerie [email protected]

2 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 05 Desember 2014 Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:29 am (PST) . Posted by: "Hester Marx"

Gelukwensings

RADEMEYER, (née BOTES), Melmarie. Raai wie is 50 ? Geluk met jou groot dag, Sondag 07 Desember 2014. Manlief en gesin. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 05/12/2014)

Sterfgevalle

BRADLEY, William Robert. +Dinsdag 02 Desember 2014. Begrafnisdiens Maandag 08 Desember 2014 11:00 AGS Kerk Despatch. Despatch-begraafplaas. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 05/12/2014) Sonja de Vos AVBOB Despatch 041 933 2039

MARTIN, Freddie Richard. 67 jaar. Begrafnisdiens Saterdag 06 Dessember 2014 11:00 Bethelsdorp Cong. Kerk. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 05/12/2014) Van Willing Begrafnisdienste 041 453 0989

NIEWOUDT, Maureen. Diens Saterdag 06 Desember 2014 13:00 Milnerton Huis Kapel, First Avenue Funeral Home, 1ste Laan, Walmer. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 05/12/2014) Heila, First Avenue Funeral Home 041 581 5028

SWANEPOEL, Charles. 55 jaar. Roudiens Vrydag 05 Desember 2014 15:00 NG Kerk De Mist, Uitenhage. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 05/12/2014) Van Willing Begrafnisdienste 041 988 1919

Hester Marx, Loerie [email protected]

3a COX Fri Dec 5, 2014 6:50 am (PST) . Posted by: "Johanna Gutter" johannagutter

Goeiemiddag lyslede

Ons boekhouer, Johan COX wat in Potchefstroom woon, wil graag weet of iemand die COX-familie nagevors het of besig is daarmee. Daar was op 'n tyd 'n genealoog by hom wat sy naam op 'n Cox-lys geplaas het, maar sedertdien het hy niks weer verneem nie.

Vriendelike groete, Johanna Gutter Koppies.

3b Re: COX Fri Dec 5, 2014 9:15 am (PST) . Posted by: "Lucas Rinken" lucas.rinken

Naand Johanna,

Ek doen nie navorsing oor die van nie maar ons het 99 persone met hierdie van in e-SAGI.

Sal help as ek kan.

Groetnis, Lucas

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 05 December 2014 04:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] COX

Goeiemiddag lyslede

Vriendelike groete, Johanna Gutter Koppies.

4 [PRESS] Beeld 03 Des.2014.doc Fri Dec 5, 2014 7:27 am (PST) . Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie

NN (MORISHES?); Pn. MORISHES kontak dringend vir Loftie EATON, maatskaplike werker by 084-513-1446 oor aanneming van jou kind. (Beeld - 0, 03/12/2014)

NN (VAN DER BERG?); Pn (Seun * 22/09/2012). Chrystal VAN DEN BERG kontak dringend vir Alta KUHNEMUND by 076-945-7998 oor aanneming van jou seun. (Beeld - 02, 03/12/2014)

NN (VENTER?); Pn (Seun * 05/09/2002, ID-020905 5082 082). Derek VENTER, ID-730411 5241 084 kontak dringend {Mevr} HATTINGH by 012-344-1291 oor aanneming van jou seun. (Beeld-03/12/2014)

NN (VENTER?); Pn (Seun * 23/06/2006, ID-06060523 5447 087). Derek VENTER, ID-730411 5241 084 kontak dringend {Mevr} HATTINGH by 012-344-1291 oor aanneming van jou seun. (Beeld-03/12/2014)

Groete, Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.

[Blignaut x Laubscher; Els x Blignaut; Pretorius x Bloem; Kruger x Pretorius.] [Bouwer x Meyer; Bouwer x Wild; Pretorius x v/d Merwe; Pretorius x Potgieter; Potgieter x Barkhuizen]

5 [PRESS] Beeld 04 Des.2014.doc Fri Dec 5, 2014 7:30 am (PST) . Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie

NN (MORISHES?); Pn. MORISHES kontak dringend vir Loftie EATON, maatskaplike werker by 084-513-1446 oor aanneming van jou kind. (Beeld - 02, 03, 04/12/2014)

NN (VAN DER BERG?); Pn (Seun * 22/09/2012). Chrystal VAN DEN BERG kontak dringend vir Alta KUHNEMUND by 076-945-7998 oor aanneming van jou seun. (Beeld - 02, 03, 04/12/2014)

Groete,

Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.

[Blignaut x Laubscher; Els x Blignaut; Pretorius x Bloem; Kruger x Pretorius.] [Bouwer x Meyer; Bouwer x Wild; Pretorius x v/d Merwe; Pretorius x Potgieter; Potgieter x Barkhuizen]

6 [Press] The Mercury Fri 5 Dec 2014. Fri Dec 5, 2014 10:34 am (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:- "You can do anything if you have enthusiasm. It is the yeast that makes your hopes rise to the stars. "

BIRTHS:-WHITE Richard & Carla a boy Jude Crookes WHITE * 19 Nov 2014 in Cape Town. 1st Grandchild for Graeme & Elizabeth. Great-grandchild to Jean on her 92nd Birthday.

DEATHS:-CHILLMAN Doreen + 3 Dec 2014 . Friend of Liz, Jill and families. Formally Matron of Entabeni Hospital. Memorial at Garden Grove Musgrave Lounge, St Thomas Rd Durban on 9 Dec 2014 at 10:30am. OAKLEIGH 031 2059959.

CROFT Professor Leslie T + 1 Dec 2014 .10 day short of his 96th Birthday. Married to Lois. Father of Louise , Thomas and Richard. Funeral at St Lukes Anglican Church Howick on 5 Dec 2014 at 11am. Memorial at St Thomas's in Durban on 6 Dec 2014 at 2pm.

DIKANA Lulu + at age 35. Daughter of + Vuyisile "Viva" DIKANA (famous jazz drummer + 2009) Sister of Zonke, + Busisiwe.

DONNELLY Adrian Cedric .Son of Clive & + Jennifer DONNELLY . Father of Levi HADDEN and Kacee DONNELLY. Brother and friend . Funeral on 6 Dec 2014 at St Gabriel's Anglican Church Wentworth at10am. Proceeding to Dudley Street Cemetery.

DU PLOOY Ryan 16 Sept 1988 ----2 Dec 2014. Son of Errol & Diana. Big brother of Nicole.; Memorial at Marine Life Saving Club on 8 Dec 2014 at 14:30pm OAKLEIGH 031 2059959.

ERNEST FRANCIS EMMANUEL (Boy) + 26 Nov 2014. Brother of Phyllis, Sylvia, Denise and Shirley and + Doreen, Gloria and Desmond. Brother-in-law of Sydney ROBERT. GEHREN Brian Ralfe + 3 Dec 2014 at age 83 at his home in Westville. Son of Hilder & Theo GEHREN. Husband of June GEHREN. Father of Patricia OFFERMANN and Colleen PETRUCCI and grandfather of Ralfe, Carmen, Josh and Luc-Jean. Memorial Service at New Germany Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses on 13 Dec 2014 at 11am. Ralph at > [email protected] < for Info.

GOPAUL Dhayalan 4 May 1948 ----. Funeral on 5 Dec 2014 at Residence 566 Clare Rd, Clare Estate from 10:30-----3pm and at Crematorium from 15:30---1620pm.

MAHLALEMPINI Victoria + 3 Dec 2014 in Nagina near Marianhill. She was stabbed (21times) to death while reading her Bible.She was 67 years old. She was Mother of NENE Thandeka.

NAYIAGER Mrs Devaigi. 16th Day Memorial on 10 Dec 2014 at the Vishnu Temple Hall Chatsworth. Supper at 5:30pm Service 7pm.

ODAMS Ruth x + John. Mother of Gail and Colin. Mother-in-law of Nick, Amanda, Sally, Kelly and Jordan-Lee. Great-grandmother of Jack. Memorial Tea at 210 Montpellier Rd Durban on 8 Dec 2014 at 2:30pm.

ROSSMAN Sonja 26 Feb 1940 -----3 Dec 2014. Memorial at Hillcrest Lutheran Church Assagayon 6 Dec 2014 at 11am.

VAN DER SANDT Jacques + 3 Dec 2014 at Skukuza Golf Course. He was killed by a crocodile . He was son of Schalk & Lorretha VAN DER SANDT who is retired staff members.

WILSON (Cash) Clifford John of Malvern. Funeral at New Apostolic Church Sydenham on 6 Dec 2014 at 10am. Cremation private.

MEMORIAMS:-HOLLOWAY Roderick . 16 years gone now .Husband of Arline.

LEITCH Pauline . Wife and Mother of Malcolm, Claire and Stuart.

MARTIN Steve 4 May 1948 -----5 Dec 2012. Love from Jody x 2, Ty & Brooke; Storme & Sailor; Biggles.

NAIDOO Vimla . Missed on your birthday by your family.

NOBLE Twinks. 3 years gone now. Wife oof Lloyd. Children and grandchildren.

SCROOBY Winston Henry . 5 years gone now . Husband of Jenny. Son-in-law of Phyllis, Wesley, Jackie, Melanie, Ulrike , Garry, Dylan , Kaitlyn, Brandon, Colby, Cameron.

VAN WYNGAARD Daphne Tjoeks. 4 years gone now. Wife of Max, mother of Roma and Patsy and grandmother of Laura, Inga, William and Emma.

WATSON Sarah. Love from Colin, Sheena and Collette.

WOOTTON Darren . Son and brother. We Miss you. From Mom, Dad ,Lisa and Keri.

Gegroet uit Durban. Bewolk en matige weer. Rita Quebbemann

7 NAVORSING TEEN BETALING IN PRETORIA: DE LA REY EN GREEFF Fri Dec 5, 2014 12:50 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Daniel Jacobs" danielmalanjacobs

Beste Vriende

Ek is besig met navorsing oor o.a. Generaal de la Rey en die Greeffs wat afstam van De la Rey se skoonpa (Hendrik Greeff-stigter van Lichtenburg) en benodig iemand om vir my teen betaling navorsing in die TAB asook Akteskantoor in Pretoria te doen. In die TAB gaan ek o.a. foto's van boedels benodig.

Van die navorsing moet voor die einde van Desember gedoen word. Kontak my asseblief by [email protected] of 07987276990 as iemand kan help.

Baie dankie

Vriendelike groete Daniel Jacobs

Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na www.gendata.co.za

8 [Press] The Mercury Fri 5 Dec 2014 CREDITORS...... Fri Dec 5, 2014 10:51 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:-" Destiny has a lot to do with it , but so do you. You have to persevere, you have to insist. " -Andrea BOCELLI.

CREDITORS /DEBTORS:-

BACHOO Naresh ID 730121 5160 08 1 + none of 83 Rd No 706, Chatsworth. ESTATE No 30081/2014. FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 27511 Greenacres Port Elizabeth 6057.

CRAMPTON Donald Stanley ID 391123 5059 08 1 + 16 Sept 2014 of 8 Durham Place, Farningham Ridge, Pinetown KZN. ESTATE No 30088/2014/DBN. FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 27511 Greenacres Port Elizabeth 6057. REF:- DEBRA ALLIE.

CULLINANE Jeremiah ID 430815 5069 08 4 + 27 May 2014 of 34 Earlswood Place, Durban North. ESTATE No 29416/2014. TATE NOLAN & KNIGHT ATTORNEYS PO Box 201181, Durban North 401 TEL:- 031 5631874.

DONALDSON Gordon Keith ID 380810 5132 08 0 + 18 Aug 2014 of 3 Blofield Rd, New Germany 3610. ESTATE No 30826/2014/DBN. Mr. R S DONALDSON P O Box 11775 , Marine Parade 4056.

DOVE Hazel Maureen ID 290916 0322 08 7 + none of 235 Umdoni Retirement Village, Pennington. Estate No 20391/2014/DBN. P.J.R. BROW PVT Bag X07 Winkelspruit 4146. TEL:- 031 9169400.

GEIGER Armin Otto ID 331016 5092 18 0 + 10 Oct 2014 of 5 Springside Rd, Hillcrest 3610. ESTATE No. 30600/2014/DBN. FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 212, Westville 3630.

GOQO Simangele Pearlgene ID 461012 0498 08 6 + 28 Sept 2009 of 7 Bunting Place, Amanzimtoti Durban. Estate No.11722/2009/PMB. . FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 212, Westville 3630.

NAIDOO Devaraju Vadivelu ID 480505 5090 08 6 + 30 May 2014 of 47 Victor Rd, Avoca, Red Hill Durban. ESTATE No 025790/2014/DBN. FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 212, Westville 3630.

ROBINSON Denise Merle ID 411124 0019 08 4 + 20 July 2014 of 119 Roger Sishe Rd, Westville . ESTATE No 030036/2014/DBN . MARK STEWART RYDALL VIEWS Building 5 A Rydall Vale Office Park, 38 Douglas Saunders Drive La Lucia Ridge 4051. TEL:- 0100606700.

TAYLOR Shirley Elizabeth ID 340328 0004 18 8 + 11 Oct 2014 of Cottage 338 Umdoni Retirement Village. ESTATE No 29239/2014. MARC TAYLOR ATTORNEYS Suite 2, First Floor FNB Building, 6 Westville Rd Westville PO Box 5723, Durban 4000.

TREFUSIS-PAYNTER Kathleen ID 220805 0027 08 2 + 25 Aug 2014 of 71 Sandown Village, 27 Harvey Rd, Pinetown. ESTATE No 30476/2014/DBN. . FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 212, Westville 3630.

FIRST/ FINAL:-

1]BRADSHAW Amber Lori Mary ID 630730 0119 08 1 + 20 Aug 2013 of 396 Musgrave Rd Berea 4001. ESTATE No 9820/2013 NICOLA IRRS QUIN NEWTONS P/A P O Box 20292, Willows, Bloemfontein 9320.

2]BROOKER Dorothy Elsie Josephine ID 200307 0047 08 1 + 30 Aug 2014 of Outspan Retirement Home Umbilo Durban. ESTATE No.27720/2014 . TATE NOLAN & KNIGHT ATTORNEYS PO Box 201181, Durban North 401 TEL:- 031 5631874.

3]CARR John Moir ID 350617 5033 08 6 + 30 Nov 2013 of 24 Duiker Street, Sandringham Howick. ESTATE No 020237/2014. FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 13527 Cascades 3202.

4]DEVENISH Carlina Deborha ID 601109 0001 08 3 + 27 Feb 2012 of 12 Sampson Ave Barry Hertzog Park Newcastle 2940. ESTATE No 5344/2012. FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 13527 Cascades 3202

5] DOWLING Merryl Ann ID 341208 0031 08 5 + none of 18 Kew Ave Gardens Kew Ave, Westville ESTATE No 7173/2013/PMB. FULLER AND COMPANY 29 Maryville Rd Westville 3629. TEL:- 031 2671449.

6]FITZGERALD Elaine Emeline ID 300127 0022 08 5 + 16 April 2012 of 29 Newport Ave Glenashley KZN. ESTATE No 11323/2012. TATE NOLAN & KNIGHT ATTORNEYS PO Box 201181, Durban North 401 TEL:- 031 5631874

7]FORBES Joan Margaret ID 270504 0026 08 2 + 25 July 2013 of 53 Horseshoe Crescent, Waterfall KZN. ESTATE No 23502/2014. PRIOR & PRIOR ATTORNEYS P O Box 17338 Congella 4013. TEL:- 031 2075488.

8]GOVENDER Mala ID 650721 0185 08 6 + 24 March 2014 of 25 Ladle Palm Palmview Phoenix x in Community of Property to Sadhasivan GOVENDER ID 640217 5161 08 4. ESTATE No 25060/2014/DBN. FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 27511 Greenacres Port Elizabeth 6057.

9]HENDERSON Patrick Michael ID 400828 5016 08 4 + 24 Nov 2013 of 13 Lynton Park, Aitkin Rd Lynton Park, Aitken Rd, Umtentweni x Colleen Ann Henderson ID 400828 5016 08 4 . ESTATE No 21543/2014. FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 13527 Cascades 3202

10]HOGG Noel Daphne ID 221221 0018 08 0 + 7 Feb 2014 of Emmerson House Bill Buchanan Assoc. for the Aged , Morningside Durban. ESTATE No 3089/2014/DBN. Mr D B WARDLAW c/o PO Box 11751 Dorpspruit 3206. TEL:- 033 3450322 FAX:- 033 3451993. Email > [email protected] < REF:- J.V.Hart/kh/Hog02E.

11]JONSSON Margaret Gilmour ID 290302 0007 08 7 + 4 Aug 2014 of 11 Wendover Rd, Wembly Pietermaritzburg. ESTATE No 024572/2014. FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 13527 Cascades 3202

12] MAHARAJ Tejni ID 710704 0130 08 6 + 22 May 2014 of 18 Hereford Circle, Hayfields Pietermaritzburg. ESTATE No 023741/2014 . FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 13527 Cascades 3202

13] MELLOR Reginald Douglas ID 151209 5028 08 3 + 9 Feb 2013 of Ridgewood Frail Care Centre, Mount Edgecombe 4302. ESTATE No. 2721/2013/DBN. CATO YOUNG AND LESTER INCORPORATED 29 Jesmond Grove, Overport 4091. TEL:- 031 2040400.

14] MILLER Gordon William ID 371004 5052 08 2 + 24 Oct 2013 of 3 Lange Place , New Germany 3610. ESTATE No 15999/2013/DBN . GRANT THORNTON P O Box 752 Durban 4000. Email > [email protected] < .

15] NICOL Derek Bain ID 460919 5049 08 9 + 26 Feb 2014 of 3 Cressington Russell Street, Durban. ESTATE No. 21092/2014/DBN. INA STRODE P O Box 236 Damdoryn 0280 Email > [email protected] < TEL:- 0829251236.

16]NKOSI Themba Alphine ID 430731 0351 08 0 + 12 Dec 2013 of BB 1563 Umlazi Township Durban. ESTATE No 3512/2014/DBN. FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 27511 Greenacres Port Elizabeth 6057.

17] ORGAN Kathleen Molly ID 320505 0079 08 8 + none .Address Non. ESTATE No 11307/2013/DBN. LARSON FALCONER HASSAN PARSEE INC 2nd Floor , 93 Richfond Circle, Richfond Office Park Umhlanga Rocks 4319. TEL:- 031 5341600.

18]SOUTHWOOD Sydney Michael ID 200212 5044 08 5 + 30 May 2014 of 5 Keston Crescent Marlborough Park Bluff KZN. ESTATE No 23048/2014. TATE NOLAN & KNIGHT ATTORNEYS PO Box 201181, Durban North 401 TEL:- 031 5631874.

19] STUDD Pamela ID 341105 0038 08 8 + 10 April 2014 of 1 Tawny Close, Amberfield Howick. ESTATE No 21396/2014. FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 13527 Cascades 3202

20] TRAVIS William John ID 240208 5071 08 8 + 21 June 2014 of Beaver Creek, Coffee Estate Port Edward 4295. ESTATE No. 26813/2014. FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 27511 Greenacres Port Elizabeth 6057.

21] WHYTE Matthew Gemmell ID 451210 5112 18 9 + none. ADDRESS none. ESTATE No 3521/2014/DBN. ADRIANA BOZZONE ATTORNEY 1 Blue Ridge , Durban North. TEL:- 083 650 3881.

Gegroet uit bewolkte koelerige Durban Rita Quebbemann.

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6868 Datum: Sat Dec 6, 2014 Daar is 3 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1a PRETORIA ARGIEF - Desembermaand by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000 1b Re: PRETORIA ARGIEF - Desembermaand by "Tobi Swart" tobi.swart 2 Meesterskantoor in Pretoria by "Gustav & René Pansegrouw"

Messages

1a PRETORIA ARGIEF - Desembermaand Sat Dec 6, 2014 9:40 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

Hallo Mede Lyslede,

Ek praat uit `n hele paar jaar se ondervinding van die Pretoria Argief.

Indien iemand in Desembermaand wil besoek aflê of data op `n ander manier wil bekom.

Na die vakansie dag van die 16e maak die Leeskamer of vroeg toe (12h00) weens een of ander Kerspartytjie of hulle het net `n „geraamte‟ personeel wat BAIE stadig werk. Dus gaan daar net hierdie week werklik iets gedoen word.

Die leeskamer gaan heelwaarskynlik Vrydag 19e vir die jaar sluit om dan die 5 Jan 2015 weer oop te maak.

Ek sal wel die sluitingsdatum bevestig wanneer ek een of ander tyd die week soontoe gaan.

Of iemand anders wat more gaan kan dit net bevestig.

Groetnis. Annelie.

1b Re: PRETORIA ARGIEF - Desembermaand Sat Dec 6, 2014 10:40 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Tobi Swart" tobi.swart

Vrydag se inligting:

Die Nasionale Argief in Pretoria sluit 24 Desember 2014 om 12:00 en hervat weer diens 5 Januarie 2015.

Dit geld ook die Leeskamer wat vir die publiek toeganklik is.

Maar … soos Annelie genoem het: Vrydag 5 Desember is ses personeellede met jaarlikse verlof; Vrydag 12 Desember vertrek 3 met verlof en Maandag 15 vertrek nog personeellede; indien jou verlof begin, kan jy die dag waarop dit begin om 12:00 vertrek.

Die gewone diens „verstadig‟ dus vanaf komende Maandag.

Die jaarlikse „kersparty‟ het darem reeds Vrydag 5 Desember plaasgevind --- gereël sodat dié wat daardie dag met verlof gaan, die kans kry om dit by te woon.

Tobi Swart, Professional Researcher at tsearch, Pretoria e-mail address: [email protected] OR [email protected]

PO Box 11551, QUEENSWOOD, Pretoria, 0121

Fax: 086 621 9231; mobile phone: 082 934 5807

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 07 December 2014 07:44 To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] PRETORIA ARGIEF - Desembermaand

Hallo Mede Lyslede,

Ek praat uit `n hele paar jaar se ondervinding van die Pretoria Argief.

Indien iemand in Desembermaand wil besoek aflê of data op `n ander manier wil bekom.

Die leeskamer gaan heelwaarskynlik Vrydag 19e vir die jaar sluit om dan die 5 Jan 2015 weer oop te maak.

Ek sal wel die sluitingsdatum bevestig wanneer ek een of ander tyd die week soontoe gaan.

Of iemand anders wat more gaan kan dit net bevestig.

Groetnis. Annelie.

2 Meesterskantoor in Pretoria Sun Dec 7, 2014 2:14 am (PST) . Posted by: "Gustav & René Pansegrouw"

Hallo lyslede

Nou met die posstaking afgehandel wil ek graag advies kry wie om by die Meesterskantoor in Pretoria te skakel. Destyds het ek Sarie Badenhorst by 012 3397919 en Elsie Mabuela by 012 3261975 of mev. Botha by 012 3397919 gekakel, maar weet nie meer wat deesdae die korrekte prosedure is nie.

Sal baie graag wil verneem wat tans gedoen moet word om 'n S/K te bestel.

Groetnis

René Pansegrouw

Rangerweg 93, Vishoek, 7975 Tel./faks: 021 7826821 Sel: 082 4253973 E-posadres: [email protected]

DAVIS (vh. O'MARA)/ KITSHOFF/ PANSEGRA/OUW

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6869 Datum: Sun Dec 7, 2014 Daar is 2 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1 [Press] Sunday Tribune 7 Dec 2014 by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 2 REBELLE VERHORE by "Daniel Jacobs" danielmalanjacobs

Messages

1 [Press] Sunday Tribune 7 Dec 2014 Sun Dec 7, 2014 4:59 am (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:-" You may be deceived if you trust too much, but you will live in torment unless you trust enough." - Frank CRANE.

DEATHS:- DOMONEY Gwendoline May + 4 Dec 2014. Great-grandmother , grandmother and mother of Ted KERSHAW, Colleen ARMER , Barbara GOULD and their families.

GENGIAH VENKETAS Norman x Vino. Father of Ramanie MOODLEY and Poobalan. Father-in-law of of Anitha and Alvin MOODLEY . Grandfather of Trilochan, Vibhavari and Kanish. Fureral on 7 Dec 2014 at 61 Stoneham Ave Whetstone , Phoenix from 12noon ---14h00 proceeding to Clare Estate Crematorium Hall from 15h00 ----17h00 .

KORKIE Pierre + 5 Dec 2014 in Yemen together with SOMERS Luke a US Journalist. Pierre was married to Yolande KORKIE . Father of Pieter-Ben (16) and Lize-Mari (14).

MCINTYRE Morag June 27 April 1944 -----3 Dec 2014. Mother of Ross. Grandmother of Aidan and Jonathan.

NEWMAN Morgan Hercules of Newlands East x Brenda NEWMAN. Father of Anne, Sharon, Noelene, Tracey ,Marian, Alban and Gareth. Father-in-law , grand and great-grandfather. Funeral on on 9 Dec 2014 at Holy Family Parish Newlands East at 10:30. Cremation private.

TRUTER Barry 31 Oct 1947 ---3 Dec 2014 Tragically. Love from Christine , Beaujolais , Nick and the boys. For details of funeral contact Christine or Beaujolais.

MEMORIAM:- AHRENS Helen Joyce 26 Jan 1934 ---7 Dec 2013 . Mother of Lyniece, Sheldyn, Sheniece, Lyschelle & Kapri.

ASHWORTH Muriel + 6 Dec 2013. Thank you for 53 years of unconditional Love from Bill 082 9216764; Also from Jen, Lyn, Johan, Paul & grandchildren.

BARRETT Marion + 5 Dec 2001. Remembered by Tony, Nicole & Kirsten.

HIGGS Alistair . We Miss you from Dad, Mumsy and Oliver.

HODGES Donald Lynton. 5 years gone now. Husband , father and grandfather. Love from Yvonne, David, Karen , Nicholas, Rachel, Michael, Alishea and Ella.

MURUGAN Latchmi 1923 ----1914. 1st Year Memorial on 13 Dec 2014 at 2:30pm at Wyebank Siva Sungum Hall, Evergreen Rd. From the MURUGAN Family .Brian 0836276208 ;Nat 082 5171538.

NAIDOO Claude 14 April 1973 ----7 Dec 1998. Remembered by her loved ones.

SLATER Norman 12 Aug 1951 ----6 Dec 2013 x Merry. Father of Guy and Cara, father-in-law of Greg. Brother of Bill, Peter and John.

SUGDEN Marc 7 Dec 1976 . On your Birthday.

Gegroet uit Durban bewolk, was warm en nou winderig en oortrokke. Rita Quebbemann.

2 REBELLE VERHORE Sun Dec 7, 2014 11:24 am (PST) . Posted by: "Daniel Jacobs" danielmalanjacobs

Beste Vriende

Watter Argiefgroepe bevat die inligting van die 1914 Rebelle verhore asseblief?

Ek is besig met navorsing oor 'n geveg waaraan Veldkornet Izak Edward Claassen tydens die Rebellie deelgeneem het. Hy verwys in 'n verklaring daaromtrent na sy verhoor.

Die geveg het op 29 Oktober 1914 op Rietvlei in die ou Wes-Transvaal plaasgevind. Claassen is tydens die geveg gewond. GD Scholtz noem in sy boek Die Rebellie 1914-1915 dat die rebelle tydens die geevg 'n Kaptein Nolte wat met 'n witvlag na hulle op pad was doodgeskiet het.

Van minder belang op die stadium, maar ek sal ook graag wil weet watter dokumente sal inligting bevat oor my oupagrootjie Daniel Johannes Malan Jacobs (1869) wat tydens die Rebellie in Wocester gebly het. Hy was 3 maande in die tronk oor briewe wat hy in die koerante geskryf het. Hy is dus onwaarskynlik as rebel verhoor, maar hy moes een of ander wet oortree het. Dalk krygswet?

Groete Daniel

Ns. My oupagrootjie Jacobs was nie my enigste voorouer wat gely het weens die skryf van briewe aan koerante nie. In 'n vorige boodskap het ek die volgende omtrent sy vrou - Elizabeth Maria Jacobs (gebore Louw) se oupa aan moederskant gese:

"My oumagrootjie Elizabeth Maria Louw (gebore 9.10.1865) se Pa was Frederik Wilhelm Louw wat tydens die ABO 'n krygsgevangene op Bermuda was en haar ma was Catharina Maria Brink. Catharina Maria Brink se Pa was Johannes Mattheus Brink. Sy Pa was vir 'n paar jaar lank die eienaar van Nova Constantia. Al wat ek van die Brinks geweet het toe ek in 1985 met genealogiese navorsing begin het, was die volgende stelling wat my Ma gemaak het: "Die Brinks was Sending mense" Dit het iemand in my Pa se familie vir haar vertel.

Oom Jan Bosman, wat o.a. voorsitter van die SA Droëvrugteraard was en SAP-LV vir Wellington (hy het net soos Genl. Smuts ook in die 1948-verkiesing sy setel verloor), was ook 'n kleinseun van JM Brink en dus kleinneef van my oorgrootjie Elizabeth Maria Louw. Ek het van nog 'n nasaat van JM Brink 'n transkribsie ontvang van 'n gesprek wat met Oom Jan Bosman gevoer is. Daarvolgens het sy oupa so baie briewe aan die koerante geskryf dat hy nooit sy skoorstene skoongemaak het nie. Dit het tot gevolg gehad dat sy huis drie maal afgebrand het.

Ek het in die Nasionale Biblioteek, Kaapstad 'n bundel briewe gekry wat geskryf is deur JM Brink, Ds JH Neethling en nog 'n predikant waarin hulle, hulle beywer het vir die totstandkoning van die Kweekskool op Stellenbosch."

Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na www.gendata.co.za

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6870 Datum: Mon Dec 8, 2014 Daar is 7 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 06 Desember 2014 by "Hester Marx" 2 ou transportpad Durban tot Pretoria by "Carel-Johann de Bruin" 3a Johanna Hendrika Aletta Francina Martina Lubbe *Sep 1 1883 +Des 20 1 by debbie_pretorius1981 3b Re: Johanna Hendrika Aletta Francina Martina Lubbe *Sep 1 1883 +Des by "Patricia Blacklaws" 4 [Press] The Mercury /Daily News Mon 8 Dec 2014. by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 5 [Press] Daily News Fri 5 Dec 2014 CREDITORS...... by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 6a Re: KAB Sluiting vir feesseisoen by "Sarel Burger" sarel.burger

Messages

1 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 06 Desember 2014 Mon Dec 8, 2014 4:40 am (PST) . Posted by: "Hester Marx"

In Memoriam

GUNN, Arthur (Pally). Dit sal op 07 Desember 1 jaar wees wat die Here jou kom haal het. Rus in vrede. Nennie, kinders, kleinkinders. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 06/12/2014)

Dankbetuigings

ODENDAAL, Sannie. 16/04/1931 – 24/11/2014. Hiermee ons innige dank en waardering vir geestelike, emosionele en tasbare ondersteuning wat ons in hierdie tyd ontvang het. Attie, Alita en Kobus, Karin en Christi, Paul en Adriaan. (Die Burger O-Kaap 06/12/2014)

Hester Marx, Loerie [email protected]

2 ou transportpad Durban tot Pretoria Mon Dec 8, 2014 7:17 am (PST) . Posted by: "Carel-Johann de Bruin"

Dagsê

Hoe was die roete van die ou wapad of transportpad van Durban na Pretoria in die 1860‟s?

Wanneer is Van Reenenspas gebou? Wanneer het die dorpie Van Reenen ontstaan? En die klein kerkie by Van Reenen?

Hulp sal waardeer word.

Johann de Bruin [email protected] Wonderboom-Suid Pretoria 3a Johanna Hendrika Aletta Francina Martina Lubbe *Sep 1 1883 +Des 20 1 Mon Dec 8, 2014 9:04 am (PST) . Posted by: debbie_pretorius1981

Goeienaand almal,

Met 'n koplamp en 'n uur of wat battery tyd op my skootrekenaar soek ek vanaand na verlore skakels. Het enige iemand dalk enige inligting oor bogenoemde persoon.

Groete Debbie Pretorius Rustenburg

3b Re: Johanna Hendrika Aletta Francina Martina Lubbe *Sep 1 1883 +Des Mon Dec 8, 2014 11:58 am (PST) . Posted by: "Patricia Blacklaws"

Ek is jammer ek het nie, maar ek is gefasineerd met haar baie name!!

Hoop iemand kon jou help

Groete uit die lieflike dorpie van Montagu Patricia

From: mailto:[email protected] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 7:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Johanna Hendrika Aletta Francina Martina Lubbe *Sep 1 1883 +Des 20 1974

Goeienaand almal,

Met 'n koplamp en 'n uur of wat battery tyd op my skootrekenaar soek ek vanaand na verlore skakels. Het enige iemand dalk enige inligting oor bogenoemde persoon.

Groete

Debbie Pretorius Rustenburg

4 [Press] The Mercury /Daily News Mon 8 Dec 2014. Mon Dec 8, 2014 10:53 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP: When love is gone ,there's always justice. And when justice is gone ,there's always force. And when force is gone, there's always Mom. Hi Mom! " -Laurie ANDERSON.

DEATHS:-ASHLEIGH-BOTHA Christian (Bunny and 'Maestro' )+ 6 Dec 2014 this past weekend of kidney failure. He turned 70 on 30 Nov 2014. He was the Head of music at the Drakensberg Boys' Choir School for 25 years.Married to Bettie. Father of Nan, Mau and Mandy.

FANNIN Clare Rose 8 May 1920 ----4 Dec 2014. Mother of Ian, Christopher and Philip and families (Grand and great-grandchildren. Memorial at Upper Umgeni Presbyterian Church Howick at 11am on 13 Dec 2014. OAKLEIGH 033 3426116.

ODAMS Ruth x John. Mother of Gail and Colin. Mother-in-law of Steve and Judy. Grandmother to Nick , Amanda, Sally, Kelly and Jordan-Lee. Great-grandmother of Jack. Memorial Tea at 210 Montpelier Rd Durban at 2"30pm on 8 Dec 2014.

VON BUDDENBROCK Emil. Memorial Service on 11 Dec 2014 at Church of the Good Shepherd Durban North at 2:30pm.

MEMORIAM:-GOVENDER Boysie . 13 years gone now. From Mum, Penny, Lorraine and the kids.

Gegroet uit Durban bewolk en koelerig. Rita Quebbemann.

5 [Press] Daily News Fri 5 Dec 2014 CREDITORS...... Mon Dec 8, 2014 10:53 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:- "Destiny has two ways of crushing us - by refusing our wishes and by fulfilling them. " - Henri Frederic AMIEL.

CREDITORS /DEBTORS:-

MOODLEY Uneshree ID 850515 0150 08 0 + 29 Aug 2014 of 4 Stardust Ave, Shallcross 4093. ESTATE No 30786/2014 DBN. M.D. FRASER P O Box 21384, Pumula 4225. TEL:- 082 460 3424.

NAIDOO Vishu Ruben ID 500614 5128 08 0 + 22 Aug 2014 of 4 Patleigh, 119 Clarence Rd, Morningside Durban x In community of property to Inbaranjini NAIDOO ID none. ESTATE No 30194/2014/DBN. T. PILLAY, MALIE PILLAY & ASSOCIATES 64 Lillian Ngoyi Rd, Morningside, Durban 4001.

NTANDO Henry Landile ID 830112 6029 08 5 +21 March 2014 of U266 Umlazi Estate . ESTATE No. 4147/2014/DBN. JACKSON & AMEEN ATTORNEYS P O Box 3350, Durban 4000.

FIRST /FINAL:-

KUBEKA Grace Thulisile ID 600513 0698 08 0 + none of 7 Sanderson Rd, Cowies Hill Park, Pinetown x Bongani Felix KUBEKA ID 550102 5671 08 0 .ESTATE No 11243/13/DBN. M E MBELE & Co P O Box 2232, Pinetown 3600. TEL:- 031 7010271.

MORGAN Noel ID 311220 0053 08 0 + none of Augusta Country Estate , 15 Lake Jasmin, Gillitts KZN. MASTERS REF:- 23178/2014/PMB TOMLINSON MNGUNI JAMES INC. EXECUTOR 165 Pietermaritz Street, Pietermaritzburg 3201.

Gegroet uit Durban waar dit bietjie gereen het vanmiddag en vroegaand. Rita Quebbemann.

6a Re: KAB Sluiting vir feesseisoen Tue Dec 9, 2014 1:01 am (PST) . Posted by: "Sarel Burger" sarel.burger

Neem asb kennis van :-

Hierdie inrigting sal gedurende die feesseisoen vanaf 25 Desember 2014 tot 2 Januarie 2015 gesluit wees. Ons sal vanaf Maandag 5 Januarie weer oop wees.

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6871 Datum: Tue Dec 9, 2014 Daar is 3 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwepe in hierdie bundel:

1 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 09 Desember 2014 by "Hester Marx" 2a DU PLESSIS by cjohanvanbreda 3 [Press] Daily News Tues 9 Dec 2014 by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Messages

1 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 09 Desember 2014 Tue Dec 9, 2014 4:22 am (PST) . Posted by: "Hester Marx"

Sterfgevalle

HERBST, Christina (Pop). +Donderdag 04 Desember 2014. Geliefde eggenote en moeder. Diens Woensdag 10 Des 2014 14:00 Victoriapark Krematoriumkapel. Forest Hill-begraafplaas. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 09/12/2014) Journey‟s End Begrafnisdienste 041 484 1464

KORKIE, Pierre. (+Saterdag 06 Desember 2014 in Jemen.) Our beloved son-in-law. Remembering you is easy. I‟ts the heartache of losing you that will never go away. We will always love you. Jim & Corrie. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 09/12/2014)

Hester Marx, Loerie [email protected]

2a DU PLESSIS Tue Dec 9, 2014 10:50 am (PST) . Posted by: cjohanvanbreda

Is daar iemand wat asb. vir my die voorgeslag van Gert Johannes Lindeque du Plessis gebore 25 02 1931 oorlede 11 02 2006 kan gee? Hy was getroud met Marlene Magdaleen Brockman.

Dankie by voorbaat. Johan van Breda Kaapstad

3 [Press] Daily News Tues 9 Dec 2014 Tue Dec 9, 2014 10:20 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:-" No matter how far a person can go the horizon is still way beyond you." - Zora Neale HURSTON.

BIRTHS:- PIRRIE Rory & Coraline a son Cail Gordan * 2 Dec 2014. A grandson for Bill & Monica PIRRIE.

DEATHS:-AITKEN Sylvia Evelyn 3 Sept 1921 ------8 Dec 2014 at The Le Domaine Care Centre x + Frank AITKEN. Mother of Richard, Andrew, Dave, Brian , mother-in-law of Jane, Jenny, Dee and Phyllis. Grandmother of 10 and great-grandmother of 3.

BUNTING Olive + 7 Dec 2014 x Donald. Mother of David and Judy, mother-in-law of Stephen. Grandmother of Emma and Joshua; Condolences to the BUNTING/ GULTING Families- Love from Shirley, Brian, Caron, Drew , Francis & Dot.

COWAN Althur + 8 Dec 2014. Missed by sons Jeff and Philip, stepsons Gary and Errol BUDLENDER and Stephanie, Vivienne and families.

DE BAIZE (AVICE) May Agnes + 4 Dec 2014. Funeral at The Immaculate Conception Church Pinetown on 10 Dec 2014 at 10:30am. MARTIN'S Pinetown 031 7092142.

HARE Jill 6 Oct 1936 ------4 Dec 2014 x Derek. Mother of Sheila, Ann and Peter. Mother-in-law of James and Nelson. Grandmother of Andrew and Duncan. Funeral at St Joseph's Catholic Church Howick on 11 Dec 2014 at 11am. OAKLEIGH 033 3426116.

MALAN nee SIMMONS Mary-Ann + 5 Dec 2014. Mother, sister and daughter. Memorial on 12 Dec 2014 at 11am in Durban .For venue details contact :- 0825793320 /031 5642071.

MARTINICK Anne-Mare 17 Dec 1921 ----4 Dec 2014 at APN Retirement Homes in New Germany . Mother of Wolf and Astrid. Mother-in-law of Glenda, Manfred. Sister of Sigrid and family. Grandmother of Dirk, Kris, Gunnar and Hanjer. Great-grandmother of Zachary, Mathis, Annie and Raphael. Memorial at APN Retirement Home New Germany on 12 Dec 2014 at 0930 am. BELL 031 3014793.

PAUL Anthony Neal. Husband , father, brother and son . Memorial at Church Of The Ascention Hilton on 11 Dec 2014 at 12noon.

RICHARDSON Jane 26 March 1955 -----28 Nov 2014. Mother.

RYNNERS Keith. Father and grandfather of Clint, Shirley, Emily & Aidan. ; Brother, brother-in-law , uncle of Yvonne, Neil and familie.

SILVA Joss + 4 Dec 2014. Mother of Tom, Vincent and + Rennie (eldest son) and grandmother. Funeral for Joss and Memorial for Rennie will be together at St Joseph's Catholic Church Morningside on 12 Dec 2014 at 9am. OAKLEIGH 031 2059959.

STANTON Agnes 10 Oct 1919 -----6 Dec 2014 in New Zealand. Mother of Cheryl, Michael, Philip and family.

VAN REENEN Gladys Marguerite + 8 Dec 2014. Mother of Maggie and Clive. Grannie and great-grannie.

WALKER Helen Jessica 6 Sept 1927 -----5 Dec 2014 at Bill Buchanan Old Age Home. Memorial on 13 Dec 2014 at 2pm at The Baptist Church Morningside. Cremation Private. AVBOB 031 2061831. MEMORIAM:-None.

Gegroet uit warm nag en bewolkte nag in Durban Rita Quebbemann.

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6872 Datum: Wed Dec 10, 2014 Daar is 5 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 10 Desember 2014 by "Hester Marx" 2 Iemand wat Duits lees en kan vertaal by "Nomadspulpit" nomadspulpit 3 [Press ] The Mercury / Daily News Wednesday 10 Dec 2014 by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 4a HULP ASB - GORI FAMILIE by "Theunis Kotze" 4b Re: HULP ASB - GORI FAMILIE by "anita slabbert" anita_slabbert

Messages

1 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 10 Desember 2014 Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:17 am (PST) . Posted by: "Hester Marx"

Sterfgevalle

CLAASSEN, Elsa. Gedenkdiens Vrydag 12 Desember 2014 11:00 NG Kerk Eendrag-gemeente, Bothastraat, Despatch. Frik, Fritz & Dyani, Jim & Este, Frans & Ginny. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 10/12/2014) Sonja de Vos AVBOB Despatch 041 933 2039

MARAIS, Johan. +Maandag 08 Desember 2014. Kinders, lewensmaat. Roudiens Vrydag 12 Desember 2014 10:00 Algoa-kapel, Worrakerstraat, Newtonpark. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 10/12/2014) Miemie Gardiner Algoa Begrafnisdienste 041 363 4874

VAN TONDER, Poppie. +Donderdag 04 Desember 2014. Kinders, kleinkinders. Begrafnisdiens Vrydag 12 Desember 2014 12:00 Ou Apostoliese Kerk Algoapark-Noord, hv Tjaart v d Walt- en Dykeweg. Forest Hill-begraafplaas. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 10/12/2014) Alfred Jones AVBOB Port Elizabeth 041 484 2731

Hester Marx, Loerie [email protected]

2 Iemand wat Duits lees en kan vertaal Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:04 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Nomadspulpit" nomadspulpit

Ek het die volgende boek opgespoor aanlyn in Harvard Universiteit en wil graag vasstel wie die Pieter Maritz is van wie hier geskryf word in Duits. https://archive.org/details/pietermaritzder01niemgoog

Hoop iemand kan gou lees en laat weet wat dit sê!

Groete A Van Rooyen

3 [Press ] The Mercury / Daily News Wednesday 10 Dec 2014 Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:00 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:-" Learning is about looking at things differently, making your life a little better every day." - Self-help author Richard BANDLER.

(You can be rich and British and deeply evil. You can also be poor and African and entirely decent.) In an article written by Imraam BUCCUS.

MARRIAGES:-ALLI Maqsood Ahmed & Farhaana Mahomed SHA married at Crescent Hall PARLOCK. (photo).

DUNSTONE Mark & Amy ROWLETT married at Lake Eland Game Reserve. (photo).

GREEN Warren & Michelle LEE married at Collisheen Estate Ballito. (photo).

MARAIS Andre & Vivian married at Ramsgate .(photo).

ODAYAR Dineshin & Jerona NAIDOO married at the MTSS Hall Durban. (photo)

PETZER Patrick & Alta married at Lord Allenby Shellhole Estcourt. (photo).

REDDY Neil & Lisa married t Vishnu Temple Hall, Havenside, Chatsworth. (Photo).

SUGREEM Ashnan & Havisha married at Siva Sungam Hall , Stanger. (photo).

WILLIAMS Douglas & Robyn married at the Durban Ski Boat Club. (photo)

DEATHS:-NEW YORK:- PETERS Calvin + 9 Dec 2014. He was shot because he attacked Israeli student. He stabbed him in the head in Brooklyn He was 'bi-polar' and 49 years old. He also waving the knife at police. Sapa-AP.

AITKEN Sylvia Evelyn +8 Dec 2014 .Funeral at Holy Trinity Anglican Church on 12 Dec 2014 at 11am. Cremation private.

ATHANASSIADES Avraam (Abe) x Eleni. Father and father-in-law of Tony, Antoinette, Bryan, Stella, Ken and Nicola. Grandfather to Nicole, Antoni, Eleni , Alexia, Abe and Annabel.

CUNNINGHAM Ronald + 5 Dec 2014 at age 96 x Len. Memorial at The Clubhouse, Ridgewood Frailcare Centre Mount Edgecombe on 12 Dec 2014 at 11am.

HIRALALL Prakash 12 Feb 1957 ----9 Dec 2014 . Son of Dasodan HIRALALL. Husband of Narini. Father of Shahil and Narissa. Father-in-law of Shalini and grandfather of Zihan. Funeral at Clare Estate crematorium from 2pm ----3:30pm .Cremation thereafter.

MAKHUVELE Dashi + 7 Dec 2014 after an attack by a hippo at Makuleke Dam in Limpopo , while fishing.

MIDGLEY Rodney. RIP from Richard, Sandy, David and Bronwyn.

RUDLIN T. W. (Billy) + 8 Dec 2014 x Dot. Father of Dalen and Ronelle and Gaye. Grandfather of Jody, Cole, Chloe and Malia. Son-in-law, brother-in-law of the BARNWELL family. Cremation Service at 10am on 13 Dec 2014 at St Monica's Anglican Church in Johannesburg. Memorial in Durban later.

VEERASAMY Ambie x Percy VEERASAMY. Funeral on 11 Dec 2014 at 0930am at 0930am at 7 Zircon Circle Shallcross. TEL:- 083 7785269.

WERNHAM Muriel Doris + 4 Dec 2014. Loved and missed by Captain Marinda LANG, Ellen, Residents and Staff at Salvation Army Thembela Eventide Home. ;Memorial Service at Montpelier Church Morningside on 10 Dec 2014 at 10am. Donations to Thembela Eventide Home.SHANLEY'S 031 2057644.

WILLEMSE Jannie 25 Nov 1951 ----8 Dec 2014 . Partner of Doritha and brother of Martie and Gerrie. Cremation private. SHANEY'S 031 2057644.

MEMORIAM:- DESPLACE Michael 23 years gone still miss you from Mom, Michelle, Paul and family.

FIRMAN Millicent Merle 25 Feb 1943 -----10 Dec 2013 . Missed from Lyster, Debbie and family.

Gegroet uit warm aand in Durban Rita Quebbemann.

4a HULP ASB - GORI FAMILIE Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:07 am (PST) . Posted by: "Theunis Kotze"

Goeie More

Ek is op soek na enige inligting oor die familie. Al wat ek het is 'n Theresa Gori wat in Simonstad gebore is ongeveer 1866.

By voorbaat dankie Theunis

4b Re: HULP ASB - GORI FAMILIE Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:13 am (PST) . Posted by: "anita slabbert" anita_slabbert

Theunis

Ek dink jy moet na verskeie spellings van die van kyk. Daar is op NAAIRS 7 mense met die van GORE, 2 mense met die van GOREY en 6 mense met die van GORRIE

Groete Anita

2014-12-11 10:04 GMT+02:00 Theunis Kotze [email protected] [SAGenealogie] :

> Goeie More > > Ek is op soek na enige inligting oor die familie. Al wat ek het is 'n > Theresa Gori wat in Simonstad gebore is ongeveer 1866. > > By voorbaat dankie > Theunis

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6873 Datum: Thu Dec 11, 2014 Daar is 5 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1a Re: Iemand wat Duits lees en kan vertaal by "Rassie" 1b Re: Iemand wat Duits lees en kan vertaal by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 2 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 11 Desember 2014 by "Hester Marx" 3 Addisionele DNS Kortings by "Jaco Strauss" jacostrauss 4 [Press ] The Mercury / Daily News Thursday by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Messages

1a Re: Iemand wat Duits lees en kan vertaal Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:08 am (PST) . Posted by: "Rassie"

Goeie middag,

Volgens die gegewens in die eerste hoofstuk van die boek lyk sy genealogie as volg

Die hoofkarakter is Pieter Maritz Buurman.

Sy pa was Andries Buurman en sy ma was Elizabeth NN

Sy oom was Klaas Buurman

Pieter Maritz Buurman was die oudste kind en het vyf jonger boeties en drie jonger sussies gehad.

Hoop dit help.

Weet nie of hy bloot 'n fiktiewe karakter was en of hy ooit gelewe het nie.

Groete Rassie

2014-12-11 3:04 GMT+02:00 Nomadspulpit [email protected] [SAGenealogie] :

> Ek het die volgende boek opgespoor aanlyn in Harvard Universiteit en wil > graag vasstel wie die Pieter Maritz is van wie hier geskryf word in Duits. > > https://archive.org/details/pietermaritzder01niemgoog > > Hoop iemand kan gou lees en laat weet wat dit sê! > > Groete > A Van Rooyen

1b Re: Iemand wat Duits lees en kan vertaal Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:17 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

My man het deurgegaan ,nou nie alles gelees nie maar hy se die skrywer het jeugverhale geskryf. Hy twyfel sterk of daar enige geskiedkundige feite in is. Dis wel van die Zulu oorlog en Boere oorlog maar net fiksie. Sal dit moet lees om self vas te stel maar daar is geen verwysings net nog 'n begin van 'n ander verhaal . Die boekie wou nie aflaai op sy rekenaar nie. As jy enige ander vrae het kan jy maar vra. Hy (Willi my man ) sal bietjie navors oor die skrywer.

Groete Rita Queb.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 11 December 2014 03:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Iemand wat Duits lees en kan vertaal

Hoop iemand kan gou lees en laat weet wat dit sê!

Groete A Van Rooyen

2 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 11 Desember 2014 Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:21 am (PST) . Posted by: "Hester Marx"

Troudagvierings

BOTHA, Reg en Anna. Ons dank die Hemelse Vader dat Hy julle 60 jaar saam vir ons gespaar het. Reg, Louis, Maralize, kleinkinders en agterkleinkinders. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 11/12/2014)

Hester Marx, Loerie [email protected]

3 Addisionele DNS Kortings Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:14 am (PST) . Posted by: "Jaco Strauss" jacostrauss

Naand lede

Ek het 'n $10 koepon wat geldig is tot die 14de vir 'n addisionele afslag vir iemand wat teen dan 'n DNS toets by FTDNA bestel. Laat my net weet en ek sal die koepon informasie stuur.

Terloops FTDNA stuur elke week 'n 'Mystery Discount Coupon" aan alle bestaande lede wat wissel van $5 tot $100. Die van julle wat reeds toetse deur FTDNA gedoen het moet asb julle koeponne nagaan en as julle dit nie self gaan gebruik nie asb vir die ander lede van hierdie forum aanbied.

Vra gerus as iets nie duidelik is nie.

Groete Jaco

STRAUSS (Calvinia) X GREYVENSTEYN (Steynsburg) STRAUSS X VAN SCHALKWYK - GREYVENSTEYN X DU PLESSIS

4 [Press ] The Mercury / Daily News Thursday Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:10 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

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DEATHS:- BUTKA Shane Daniel. Funeral on 13 Dec 2014 at St John's Anglican Church Sydenham at 10am.

HENDERSON Beverley Ann 14 Nov 1943 ----6 Dec 2014. Mother of Gavin and Kim. Mother-in-law of Belinda. Grandmother of Isabella. Memorial at Lion's Gate Church Amanzimtoti on 12 Dec 2014 at 12noon .MARTIN'S AMANZIMTOTI 031 9035423.

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MARILLIER Sidney Herbert 19 Feb 1931 ---2 Dec 2014 x Phyllis MARILLIER. Father,father-in-law , grand and great-grandfather. Funeral on 13 Dec 2014 at St Pauls Anglican Church Scottburgh at 10am. Cremation Private. DOVES 0860025500.

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SINGH Radha. Mother of + Woody, Rajeen, Nerusha, Akashnee, Shanitha and Renuka. Funeral on 12 Dec 2014 at Clare Estate Hall & Crematorium from 11a----13h00. SMITH Derek Duncan of Sea View. Uncle of + Johaan GERICKE . Funeral at Stellawood Crematorium Chapel from 10am -----10:30am .Cremation thereafter.

WADE Lillian 3 Jan 1926 ----9 Dec 2014. Memorial at M.O.T.H. Flame Lily Park Queensburgh on 17 Dec 2014 at 10am.

MEMORIAM:-DLAMININompumelelo 9 May 1972-----11Dec 2000. Remembered by Zandi, Maphindi, Mthu, Aphiwe, Ntando and Sthe.

WARREN Tyrone David 10 April 1992 ----11 Dec 2012. Son of Barry and Antoinette. Brother to Joshua and Matthew. Grandson of Ivy BOYLES.

Gegroet uit Durban Rita Quebbemann.

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6874 Datum: Fri Dec 12, 2014 Daar is 5 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1 Van Aardt Familieregister by "Ferdie van Wyk" 2a Re: Addisionele DNS Kortings by "Magda Schoeman" 3 [Press] The Mercury /Daily News Fri 12 Dec 2014 CREDITORS ..... by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 4 [Press] The Mercury /Daily News Fri 12 Dec 2014. by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 5a Weitsz en van Wyk by "Charlie Els" charlieels

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1 Van Aardt Familieregister Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:06 am (PST) . Posted by: "Ferdie van Wyk"

Goeiemôre Almal,

By hierdie skakel kan jy die jongste opdateerde Familieregister van die Van Aardt's soos opgestel deur Pieter van Aardt besigtig>. http://www.genza.org.za/index.php/en/publications-62725/family-registers

Groetnis,

Ferdie van Wyk Webbestuurder/Web Manager: www.genza.org.za

Centurion

2a Re: Addisionele DNS Kortings Fri Dec 12, 2014 4:09 am (PST) . Posted by: "Magda Schoeman"

Hallo Jaco,

My broer se JA hy sal!!!!! Yippee!!!!! So hy en ek is in. Se net wat jy voorstel. Ek het vir hom gese ek dink dit kos $69. Hoe maak ons nou???

Magda

On Thursday, December 11, 2014, Jaco Strauss [email protected] [SAGenealogie] wrote:

> Naand lede > > Ek het 'n $10 koepon wat geldig is tot die 14de vir 'n addisionele afslag > vir iemand wat teen dan 'n DNS toets by FTDNA bestel. Laat my net weet en > ek sal die koepon informasie stuur. > > Terloops FTDNA stuur elke week 'n 'Mystery Discount Coupon" aan alle > bestaande lede wat wissel van $5 tot $100. Die van julle wat reeds toetse > deyr FTDNA gedoen het moet asb julle koeponne nagaan en as julle dit nie > self gaan gebruik nie asb vir die ander lede van hierdie forum aanbied. > > Vra gerus as iets nie duidelik is nie. > > Groete > > Jaco > > STRAUSS (Calvinia) X GREYVENSTEYN (Steynsburg) > STRAUSS X VAN SCHALKWYK - GREYVENSTEYN X DU PLESSIS

Magda Schoeman P.O. Box 12002 Garden Route Mall 6546 Tel: + 27 44 8890142 Cell: + 27 83 2257733 Fax: + 086 770 0942

3 [Press] The Mercury /Daily News Fri 12 Dec 2014 CREDITORS ..... Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:46 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

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BAKER Stuart Murrell ID 440312 5101 08 1 + 23 May 2014 of 7 Adelaide Drive Durban North. ESTATE No 22269/2014. . TATE NOLAN & KNIGHT ATTORNEYS P O Box 201181 Durban North 4016 TEL:- 031 5631874.

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4 [Press] The Mercury /Daily News Fri 12 Dec 2014. Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:46 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

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GUERIN Vicki. RIP From Bruce, Sue, Justin, Paula, Duncan, Sam & Wendy.

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QUEVAUVILLIERS Renee. Mamy now with Papy and Rosy. From your family. Requiem Mass at The Assumption Catholic Church Glenwood on 15 Dec 2014 at 11am.

SELOUS (MILTON) Sarah of Wentworth. Funeral at the Old Apostolic Church Wentworth on 13 Dec 2014 at 9:45am proceeding to Dudley Street Cemetery.

VAN RENSBURG Wolsey 5 Aug 1948 -----11 Dec 2014 x Cynthia . Father to Warren. Memorial on 21 Dec 2014 at Pineville Chapel Pinetown at 3pm. DAILY NEWS

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MEMORIAM:- BINNEMANN Yvonne Matilda 3 Feb 1937 ----12 Dec 2013 x Stephen. Mother of Linda and grandmother.

SHUTTE Rory + 2008. Love from Gay.

VAN HEERDEN Pat . 5 years gone now. Wife,Mother, grandmother of Aubrey, Michael, Allan, Moira, Darryl, Kerry and Warren.

Gegroet uit nat en gelukkig koeler nag in Durban Rita Quebbemann.

5a Weitsz en van Wyk Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:46 am (PST) . Posted by: "Charlie Els" charlieels

Beste lysvriende, Ek soek asseblief hulp met twee onverwante vrae:

(1) Is die doopregister van die Lutherse Kerk, Kaapstad• van 1799 êrens beskikbaar. Ek soek na die doop op 13/10/1799 (op 4-jarige ouderdom) van JAN CHRISTIAN WEITSZ.

Hy is dood in 1883. Ek sou ook graag sy SK wou kry maar NAAIRS is tans van lyn af ("The connection to the Search Manager Server is inactive. Please try again later.)•: en

(2) Wie was die ouers van MURIEL RUTH VAN WYK *28/3/1927 x Jacobus Christoffel Els *13/5/1920, +9/8/1998

Enige hulp sal waardeer word. Baie dankie an groete, CHARLIE_._,___ Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6875 Datum: Sat Dec 13, 2014 Daar is 10 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1a Re: Weitsz en van Wyk by "Ferdie van Wyk" 1b Re: Weitsz en van Wyk by "Charlie Els" charlieels 1c Re: Weitsz en van Wyk by "Colin Möhr" mohr.colin 1d Re: Weitsz en van Wyk by "Charlie Els" charlieels 2a {Nuus} Nuwe familie lid by "Marietta" mariettavanzyl 2b Re: {Nuus} Nuwe familie lid by "Nic van Helsdingen" jean.vanh 2c Re: {Nuus} Nuwe familie lid by "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie 2d Re: {Nuus} Nuwe familie lid by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000 3a KRUGER by "CORRIE KRUGER" 3b Re: KRUGER - takkies by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

Messages

1a Re: Weitsz en van Wyk Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:42 am (PST) . Posted by: "Ferdie van Wyk"

More Charlie,

Moontlik kan die help. Bron: Van Wyk CD Weergawe 3

Groete Ferdie van Wyk Navorser van die familie van Wyk van die Tarka Doringkloof, Centurion 082-556-8031 a1b1c7d4e4f2g2h3i2j10 Muriel Ruth VAN WYK dogter van Johannes Willem Jacobus (Boet\Hannes) VAN WYK en Ida Johanna Elizabeth INGRAM

* Loerie, 28.03.1927 (Informant: Suster, Susan Nash.)

† Boksburg Hospitaal, 02.12.2004 (Informant: Mother, Susan Nash nee Van Wyk.)

Een van 'n tweeling. x 15.03.1947 Jacobus Christoffel (Kobus) ELS

1 seun en 2 dogters:

+ 1. V Ida ELS * 19.06.1947

+ 2. M Christoffel (Christo) ELS * 11.06.1952

+ 3. V Helen ELS * 28.03.1954

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 13 December 2014 11:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Weitsz en van Wyk

Beste lysvriende,

Ek soek asseblief hulp met twee onverwante vrae:

(1) Is die doopregister van die “Lutherse Kerk, Kaapstad” van 1799 êrens beskikbaar. Ek soek na die doop op 13/10/1799 (op 4-jarige ouderdom) van JAN CHRISTIAN WEITSZ.

Hy is dood in 1883. Ek sou ook graag sy SK wou kry maar NAAIRS is tans van lyn af ("The connection to the Search Manager Server is inactive. Please try again later.)”: en

(2) Wie was die ouers van MURIEL RUTH VAN WYK *28/3/1927 x Jacobus Christoffel Els *13/5/1920, +9/8/1998

Enige hulp sal waardeer word.

Baie dankie an groete, CHARLIE_._,___

1b Re: Weitsz en van Wyk Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:33 am (PST) . Posted by: "Charlie Els" charlieels

Middag Ferdie,

Dis perfek! Dis presies die mense na wie ek soek. Baie, baie dankie vir jou hulp.

Groete, CHARLIE

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 13 December 2014 12:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] Weitsz en van Wyk

More Charlie,

Moontlik kan die help. Bron: Van Wyk CD Weergawe 3

Groete

Ferdie van Wyk Navorser van die familie van Wyk van die Tarka Doringkloof, Centurion 082-556-8031 a1b1c7d4e4f2g2h3i2j10 Muriel Ruth VAN WYK dogter van Johannes Willem Jacobus (Boet\Hannes) VAN WYK en Ida Johanna Elizabeth INGRAM

* Loerie, 28.03.1927 (Informant: Suster, Susan Nash.) † Boksburg Hospitaal, 02.12.2004 (Informant: Mother, Susan Nash nee Van Wyk.)

Een van 'n tweeling. x 15.03.1947 Jacobus Christoffel (Kobus) ELS

1 seun en 2 dogters:

+ 1. V Ida ELS * 19.06.1947

+ 2. M Christoffel (Christo) ELS * 11.06.1952

+ 3. V Helen ELS * 28.03.1954

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 13 December 2014 11:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Weitsz en van Wyk

Beste lysvriende,

Ek soek asseblief hulp met twee onverwante vrae:

(1) Is die doopregister van die “Lutherse Kerk, Kaapstad” van 1799 êrens beskikbaar. Ek soek na die doop op 13/10/1799 (op 4-jarige ouderdom) van JAN CHRISTIAN WEITSZ.

Hy is dood in 1883. Ek sou ook graag sy SK wou kry maar NAAIRS is tans van lyn af ("The connection to the Search Manager Server is inactive. Please try again later.)”: en

(2) Wie was die ouers van MURIEL RUTH VAN WYK *28/3/1927 x Jacobus Christoffel Els *13/5/1920, +9/8/1998

Enige hulp sal waardeer word.

Baie dankie an groete, CHARLIE

1c Re: Weitsz en van Wyk Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:43 am (PST) . Posted by: "Colin Möhr" mohr.colin

Charlie,

Daar is van die vroee registers van die kerk by UNISA in hulle Audiovisuele Bib beskikbaar op mikrofilm

From: 'Charlie Els' [email protected] [SAGenealogie] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 11:46 AM Subject: [SA-Gen] Weitsz en van Wyk

Beste lysvriende,

Ek soek asseblief hulp met twee onverwante vrae:

(1) Is die doopregister van die “Lutherse Kerk, Kaapstad” van 1799 êrens beskikbaar. Ek soek na die doop op 13/10/1799 (op 4-jarige ouderdom) van JAN CHRISTIAN WEITSZ.

Hy is dood in 1883. Ek sou ook graag sy SK wou kry maar NAAIRS is tans van lyn af ("The connection to the Search Manager Server is inactive. Please try again later.)”: en

(2) Wie was die ouers van MURIEL RUTH VAN WYK *28/3/1927 x Jacobus Christoffel Els *13/5/1920, +9/8/1998

Enige hulp sal waardeer word.

Baie dankie an groete, CHARLIE_._,___

1d Re: Weitsz en van Wyk Sun Dec 14, 2014 1:36 am (PST) . Posted by: "Charlie Els" charlieels

Dankie Colin, Sal gaan kyk. Dis sommer hier naby my.

Groete, CHARLIE

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 13 December 2014 12:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] Weitsz en van Wyk

Charlie,

Daar is van die vroee registers van die kerk by UNISA in hulle Audiovisuele Bib beskikbaar op mikrofilm

From: 'Charlie Els' [email protected] [SAGenealogie] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 11:46 AM Subject: [SA-Gen] Weitsz en van Wyk

Beste lysvriende,

Ek soek asseblief hulp met twee onverwante vrae:

(1) Is die doopregister van die “Lutherse Kerk, Kaapstad” van 1799 êrens beskikbaar. Ek soek na die doop op 13/10/1799 (op 4-jarige ouderdom) van JAN CHRISTIAN WEITSZ.

Hy is dood in 1883. Ek sou ook graag sy SK wou kry maar NAAIRS is tans van lyn af ("The connection to the Search Manager Server is inactive. Please try again later.)”: en

(2) Wie was die ouers van MURIEL RUTH VAN WYK *28/3/1927 x Jacobus Christoffel Els *13/5/1920, +9/8/1998

Enige hulp sal waardeer word.

Baie dankie an groete, CHARLIE__

2a {Nuus} Nuwe familie lid Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:37 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Marietta" mariettavanzyl

Lede,

Net om te vertel my vyfde kleinkind is gebore

Izabella Logan-Van Zyl *13/12/2014 te Sunward Park, Boksburg (Dogtertjie)

Vader: Pieter Louis van Zyl *13/05/1984

Moeder: Ashlynn Chantelle Logan-Van Zyl *20/07/1992 (gebore Logan)

X 30/06/2012

Pieter is my jongste seun.

Groete Marietta L van Zyl Impala Park Sel: 0827765998 Tel: 0118945917

Epos 1: [email protected] Epos 2 : [email protected]

Bezuidenhout, Botes, Bothma, Burger, Burness, Fourie, Gouws, Greeff, Mare, Olivier, Schwartz, Snyman, Stolk, Thorpe, Van Zyl http://www.myheritage.com/site-151457971/george-van-zyl-marietta-gouws-tree

George van Zyl and Marietta Gouws tree Web Site

A death certificate shows you have died. A photo album shows you have lived.

2b Re: {Nuus} Nuwe familie lid Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:23 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Nic van Helsdingen" jean.vanh

Baie geluk Marietta met die nuwe kleinkind... geluk ook aan die ouers...mag sy vir julle baie vreugde bring.

Groete, Jean van Helsdingen

From: 'Marietta' [email protected] [SAGenealogie] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 10:37 PM Subject: [SA-Gen] {Nuus} Nuwe familie lid

Lede,

Net om te vertel my vyfde kleinkind is gebore

Izabella Logan-Van Zyl *13/12/2014 te Sunward Park, Boksburg (Dogtertjie)

Vader: Pieter Louis van Zyl *13/05/1984

Moeder: Ashlynn Chantelle Logan-Van Zyl *20/07/1992 (gebore Logan)

X 30/06/2012

Pieter is my jongste seun.

Groete Marietta L van Zyl Impala Park Sel: 0827765998 Tel: 0118945917

Epos 1: [email protected] Epos 2 : [email protected]

George van Zyl and Marietta Gouws tree Web Site

A death certificate shows you have died. A photo album shows you have lived.

2c Re: {Nuus} Nuwe familie lid Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:19 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie

Baie geluk aan die ouers en grootouers, mag sy julle nog baie vreugde bied.

Fanie Blignaut

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 13 December 2014 10:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] {Nuus} Nuwe familie lid

Lede,

Net om te vertel my vyfde kleinkind is gebore

Izabella Logan-Van Zyl *13/12/2014 te Sunward Park, Boksburg (Dogtertjie)

Vader: Pieter Louis van Zyl *13/05/1984

Moeder: Ashlynn Chantelle Logan-Van Zyl *20/07/1992 (gebore Logan)

X 30/06/2012

Pieter is my jongste seun.

Groete Marietta L van Zyl Impala Park Sel: 0827765998 Tel: 0118945917

Epos 1: [email protected] Epos 2 : [email protected]

George van Zyl and Marietta Gouws tree Web Site

A death certificate shows you have died. A photo album shows you have lived.

2d Re: {Nuus} Nuwe familie lid Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:55 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

Baie geluk aan almal. mag klein Izabella vir julle emmers vol vreudge besorg..

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 13 December 2014 10:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] {Nuus} Nuwe familie lid

Lede,

Net om te vertel my vyfde kleinkind is gebore

Izabella Logan-Van Zyl *13/12/2014 te Sunward Park, Boksburg (Dogtertjie)

3a KRUGER Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:10 pm (PST) . Posted by: "CORRIE KRUGER" Goeie Môre Lyslede,

My byvoegings by die KRUGER familie (ook die VAN WYK) gedurende 2014 is twee kleinkinders.

Pieter Andries se 2de kind, - 'n dogter - Minke 22 04 2014 = sal DV plaasvind op 04 01 2015

Leon se 2de seun Jacobus Hendrik 30 09 2014 =02 11 2014

Geseënde Kersfees aan almal.

Groete

Corrie Kruger (Kruger, van Breda, van Wyk)

3b Re: KRUGER - takkies Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:33 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

Baie Geluk Corrie,... sommer twee.... mag hulle vir jou en die res van die familie baie vreugdevolle oomblik besorg.....!!

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 14 December 2014 09:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] KRUGER

Goeie Mre Lyslede

My byvoegings by die KRUGER familie (ook die VAN WYK) gedurende 2014 is twee kleinkinders.

Pieter Andries se 2de kind, - 'n dogter - Minke 22 04 2014 = sal DV plaasvind op 04 01 2015

Leon se 2de seun Jacobus Hendrik 30 09 2014 =02 11 2014

Gesende Kersfees aan almal.

Groete Corrie Kruger (Kruger, van Breda, van Wyk)

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6876 Datum: Sun Dec 14, 2014 Daar is 12 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1a Re: {Nuus} Nuwe familie lid by "Marietta" mariettavanzyl 2 Gotlieb Christiaan VENTER by "anita slabbert" anita_slabbert 3 [Press] Sunday Tribune 14 Dec 2014 by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 4a Foto's: Möller en Van der Merwe by boschjapie 4b RE: [SA-Gen] Foto's: Möller en Van der Merwe by "Marietta" mariettavanzyl 4c RE: [SA-Gen] Foto's: Möller en Van der Merwe by "Marietta" mariettavanzyl 5a Re: Iemand wat Duits lees en kan vertaal by nomadspulpit 5b Re: Iemand wat Duits lees en kan vertaal by nomadspulpit 5c Re: Iemand wat Duits lees en kan vertaal by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 6a VIR JACO STRAUSS: ROLENE STRAUSS by "Daniel Jacobs" danielmalanjacobs 6b Re: VIR JACO STRAUSS: ROLENE STRAUSS by "CORRIE KRUGER" 7 Rolene Strauss se herkoms? by "Jaco Strauss" jacostrauss

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1a Re: {Nuus} Nuwe familie lid Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:03 am (PST) . Posted by: "Marietta" mariettavanzyl

Baie dankie en ook aan die ander wat gelukwensings gestuur het.

Mooi dag Marietta

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 8:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] {Nuus} Nuwe familie lid

Baie geluk aan almal. mag klein Izabella vir julle emmers vol vreudge besorg..

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 13 December 2014 10:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] {Nuus} Nuwe familie lid

Lede, net om te vertel my vyfde kleinkind is gebore

Izabella Logan-Van Zyl *13/12/2014 te Sunward Park, Boksburg (Dogtertjie)

2 Gotlieb Christiaan VENTER Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:39 am (PST) . Posted by: "anita slabbert" anita_slabbert

Dag mense Ek is opsoek na 'n Gotlieb Christiaan VENTER X Anna Susanna NN. Hulle het 'n dogter Gesina Cornelia * 4 jul 1908 Hofmeyr Kaap + 29 jan 1968 Oos Londen.

Sy gee haar ouers op die sk aan soos bo. Geen nooiensvan vir haar ma.

Kan iemand help asb?

Baie dankie en groetnis Anita Melkbosstrand

3 [Press] Sunday Tribune 14 Dec 2014 Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:51 am (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:-" If you don't design your own life plan, chances are you'll fall into someone else's plan. And guess what they have planned for you? Not much." - Jim ROHN.

BIRTHS:-ELLIS nee BLAIR Kelly & Kentt a girl Brook.

NEUMANN Carl & Bianca a girl Clara-Jo. Sister for Lily-Grace. Grandchild for Carol & Ed and Trudy & Ian.Niece to Jono and Courtney.

PIRRIE Rory & Coraline a boy Cale Gordan * 2 Dec 2014. Grandchild for Bill & Monica PIRRIE and Vic & Christine HAUPT.

WATERMEYER nee RALFE Richard & Beatrice Marie -France a girl Monica Francoise.

WHITE Richard & Carla a girl Jude Crooks.

ENGAGEMENT:- STRACHAN Jean & Walter announce engagement of their daughter Jade to Richard , son of Jill & + Jack DE OUDE .

DEATHS:-ARMSTRONG Alec + 9 Dec 2014. Father of Warren and Linda, Brett and Anthia, Guy and Jinny, Tracey and Chris. Memorial at Hilton College Chapel on 17 Dec 2014 at 11am. OAKLEIGH 031 2059959

BERKENSTEIN Rodney (Rod) 29 May 1959 ----10 Dec 2014 . Sympathy to Sandy, Kev, Nikky, Matt and families. Brother and uncle to Martin, Lorna, Brett and Niques, Boyd and Berni, Dale and Jacqui, Lara and David and families.; Husband and father of Sandy, Kevin, Nicky, Matt, Abigail and Daniel.; Funeral at Epworth School Chapel Pietermaritzburg on 15 Dec 2014 at 12noon.

GREYLING Jan Hendrik 25 Oct 1943 ----10 Dec 2014. Service at St Patrick Catholic Church on 17 Dec 2014 at 08h00.

GUERIN Vicki x Michael. Mother of Grant, Warren, and Claire;. Aunt of Bron, Wayne, Matt, Hayden and Alexia; Sister of Les.; Daughter and sister . From Dad, Vicky, Jono and families.; Funeral at The Elm Tabernackle Church Fynnlands on 15 Dec 2014 at 10am. Cremation private. SHANLEY'S 031 2057644.

KAPLAN David x + Betsy. Father and grandfather of Miriam, Norman , Juliet and families. Memorial at Bluff Methodist Church on 17 Dec 2014 at 12noon.

KISTEN Ronnie (Kasaval MUNSAMY) of 158 Parkside Drive Siverglen. Husband of Dolly and father of Reggie and Julian KASAVAL. Funeral at residence on 14 Dec 2014 from 10am. Service at Christian Revival Centre at 12:30pm proceeding to Mobeni Heights Cemetery at 15h00.

KRUGER Hendrick Petrus (Boet) . Husband and father . Funeral at the Evangelis Reformed Church Hillary Durban on 17 Dec 2014 at 10am.

LEECH Brian Joe of Goble Rd Durban. Funeral Service at Lala Kahle Cemetery on 16 Dec 2014 at10am. No fowers.

MARAIS Mervin 3 Jan 1962 ----9 Dec 2014. Love from Sarah, Ashleigh, Alexandra, Mom, Dad, brothers and sisters. Funeral at St Dominica Catholic Church on 17 Dec 2014 at 11 am. OAKLEIGH 031 2059959.

Mc MASTER nee TOD Catherine Amy 20 May 1961 ----8 Dec 2014 . Little sister of Shirl, Lionel, Mike, Kate and Peter CASON.

NAIDOO V.G. 16th Day Memorial on 15 Dec 2014 at Dravida Hall Reservoir Hills Durban. Supper at 17:30pm . Service 19h00.

NULLIAH Roy of Reservoir Hills. Funeral at DOVES Greyville on 14 Dec 2014 from 12---14h00 proceeding to Clare Estate Crematorium at 3pm. DOVES 0860025500.

NULLIAH Roy. Funeral at Dravida Society Hll Reservoir Hills from 2pm on 14 Dec 2014 followed at 3pm at Clare Estate Crematorium.

NUNN Anita Myrtle of Bluff x Alvin . Mother of Ronlynne & Quade. Mother-in-law of Regan. Daughter of Edward TITUS. Sister and grandmother. Funeral at St Frances Xavier Catholic Church Bluff on 15 Dec 2014 at 11am Cremation private . No flowers.

STEPHENSON Eileen 16 June 1923 ----7 Dec 2014 at home in Kloof x + Steve . Mother, grnd and great-grandmother. As per requiest only private Mass was held on 12 Dec 2014. Thank you friends and family for support and assistance during this time. OAKLEIGH 031 2059959.

THOMAS Gregory Isaac 9 Feb 1959 ----11 Dec 2014 x Brenda. Father of Coralle, Steven, Merryl, Keagan. Son of + Andrew & Margaret THOMAS. Youngest brother of Anne, John, Elizabeth, Malcolm and Dawn.

TUCKER Stanley (Wentworth) Funeral on 15 Dec 2014 at Twelve Apostles Church Wentworth at 11am Proceeding to Dudley Street Cemetery.

MEMORIAMS:- GOVENDER Theresa Joyce 31 Dec 1935 ---13 Dec 2013. Mother of Judy & Glen, Preyen & Mariska, Sheila & Deena, Serena & Kevin, Camira, Darren & Cameron, Mary and Veronica.

MACHATTIE John . 9 years gone now. Husband ,father and grandfather of Bertha, Yvonne and Hayley. SEW Sandy 15 Dec 1948 ---19 Nov 2012. Husband of Rainuka, father and grandfather. On your 66th Birthday.

SPIES Alan. 18 years gone now. Husband of Carole, Father of Lenore, Brinton, Allison, Claude and their family.

Gegroet uit Durban waar dit redelik warm was en nou baklei die wolkies teen mekaar met redelike lawaai en blitse wat al hoe nader kom.

Rita Quebbemann.

4a Foto's: Möller en Van der Merwe Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:52 am (PST) . Posted by: boschjapie

Dag vriende.

Ek is naarstig op soek na twee foto's: Charl Abraham Möller (1820 -- 1895) en sy vrou Catharina Johanna van der Merwe (1843 -- 1882). Albei was van Tulbagh.

Hulp hiermee sal baie waardeer word.

Japie Bosch, Jeffreysbaai.

4b RE: [SA-Gen] Foto's: Möller en Van der Merwe Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:12 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Marietta" mariettavanzyl

Ek neem aan jy praat van die doop foto. Ek het syne vir jou gestuur.

Sal haar foto gou soek.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 9:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Foto's: Möller en Van der Merwe

Dag vriende.

Ek is naarstig op soek na twee foto's: Charl Abraham Möller (1820 -- 1895) en sy vrou Catharina Johanna van der Merwe (1843 -- 1882). Albei was van Tulbagh.

Hulp hiermee sal baie waardeer word.

Japie Bosch, Jeffreysbaai.

4c RE: [SA-Gen] Foto's: Möller en Van der Merwe Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:15 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Marietta" mariettavanzyl

Catharine ook gestuur- direk

Ek noem dit net hier sodat ander nie ook hoef te soek.

Marietta

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 9:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Foto's: Möller en Van der Merwe

Dag vriende. Ek is naarstig op soek na twee foto's: Charl Abraham Möller (1820 -- 1895) en sy vrou Catharina Johanna van der Merwe (1843 -- 1882). Albei was van Tulbagh.

Hulp hiermee sal baie waardeer word.

Japie Bosch, Jeffreysbaai.

5a Re: Iemand wat Duits lees en kan vertaal Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:35 pm (PST) . Posted by: nomadspulpit

Dankie Rassie! Sal die name bietjie google en kyk wat kom daarvan!

> On Dec 11, 2014, at 6:07 AM, "Rassie [email protected] [SAGenealogie]" wrote: > > Goeie middag, > > Volgens die gegewens in die eerste hoofstuk van die boek lyk sy genealogie as volg

> Die hoofkarakter is Pieter Maritz Buurman. > Sy pa was Andries Buurman en sy ma was Elizabeth NN > Sy oom was Klaas Buurman > Pieter Maritz Buurman was die oudste kind en het vyf jonger boeties en drie jonger sussies gehad.Â > > Hoop dit help. > > Weet nie of hy bloot 'n fiktiewe karakter was en of hy ooit gelewe het nie. > > Groete > Rassie

> 2014-12-11 3:04 GMT+02:00 Nomadspulpit [email protected] [SAGenealogie] : >> Â >> Ek het die volgende boek opgespoor aanlyn in Harvard Universiteit en wil graag vasstel wie die Pieter Maritz is van wie hier geskryf word in Duits. >> >> https://archive.org/details/pietermaritzder01niemgoog >> >> Hoop iemand kan gou lees en laat weet wat dit sê! >> >> Groete >> A Van Rooyen

5b Re: Iemand wat Duits lees en kan vertaal Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:36 pm (PST) . Posted by: nomadspulpit

Dankie Aletta!

> On Dec 12, 2014, at 1:17 AM, "'Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann' [email protected] [SAGenealogie]" wrote: > > My man het deurgegaan ,nou nie alles gelees nie maar hy se die skrywer het > jeugverhale geskryf. Hy twyfel sterk of daar enige geskiedkundige feite in > is. Dis wel van die Zulu oorlog en Boere oorlog maar net fiksie. Sal dit > moet lees om self vas te stel maar daar is geen verwysings net nog 'n begin > van 'n ander verhaal . Die boekie wou nie aflaai op sy rekenaar nie. > As jy enige ander vra het kan jy maar vra. Hy (Willi my man ) sal bietjie > navors oor die skrywer.

> Groete > Rita Queb. > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 11 December 2014 03:05 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SA-Gen] Iemand wat Duits lees en kan vertaal > > Ek het die volgende boek opgespoor aanlyn in Harvard Universiteit en wil > graag vasstel wie die Pieter Maritz is van wie hier geskryf word in Duits. > > https://archive.org/details/pietermaritzder01niemgoog > > Hoop iemand kan gou lees en laat weet wat dit sê! > > Groete > A Van Rooyen

5c Re: Iemand wat Duits lees en kan vertaal Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:51 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

My man het hom ,die skrywer, ge-google en hy het baie boeke geskryf –almal fiksie.

Rita /Aletta.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 15 December 2014 06:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] Iemand wat Duits lees en kan vertaal

Dankie Aletta!

On Dec 12, 2014, at 1:17 AM, "'Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann' [email protected] [SAGenealogie]" wrote:

My man het deurgegaan ,nou nie alles gelees nie maar hy se die skrywer het jeugverhale geskryf. Hy twyfel sterk of daar enige geskiedkundige feite in is. Dis wel van die Zulu oorlog en Boere oorlog maar net fiksie. Sal dit moet lees om self vas te stel maar daar is geen verwysings net nog 'n begin van 'n ander verhaal . Die boekie wou nie aflaai op sy rekenaar nie. As jy enige ander vra het kan jy maar vra. Hy (Willi my man ) sal bietjie navors oor die skrywer.

Groete Rita Queb.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 11 December 2014 03:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Iemand wat Duits lees en kan vertaal

Hoop iemand kan gou lees en laat weet wat dit sê!

Groete A Van Rooyen

6a VIR JACO STRAUSS: ROLENE STRAUSS Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:34 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Daniel Jacobs" danielmalanjacobs

Beste Jaco

Julle het nie dalk die familie van Rolene Strauss in een van julle databasisse nie?

Siende dat sy aan Kovsies studeer het, vermoed mens natuurlik dat sy moontlik uit daardie ou Vrystaatse Strauss-familie stam.

Groete Daniel Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na www.gendata.co.za

6b Re: VIR JACO STRAUSS: ROLENE STRAUSS Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:07 pm (PST) . Posted by: "CORRIE KRUGER"

Daniel

Rolene Strauss se moeder is Theresa is in Carnarvon gebore. Haar grootouers is Barry Stander en Cora (Liebenberg) Stander van Carnarvon.

Ek hoop dit help

Groete Corrie

Beste Jaco

Julle het nie dalk die familie van Rolene Strauss in een van julle databasisse nie?

Siende dat sy aan Kovsies studeer het, vermoed mens natuurlik dat sy moontlik uit daardie ou Vrystaatse Strauss-familie stam.

Groete

Daniel Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na www.gendata.co.za [1]

7 Rolene Strauss se herkoms? Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:14 am (PST) . Posted by: "Jaco Strauss" jacostrauss

Môre lede

Vanoggend hoor ek toe dat Rolene STRAUSS as Mej. Wêreld gekroon is en ek sou natuurlik graag wou vasstel hoe sy by die res van die STRAUSS familie inpas. Al wat ek sover uit die koerante kon kry is dat haar ouers Dr Hendrik Willem (Hennie) Strauss van Volksrust en Theresa STRAUSS (nooiensvan onbekend) oorspronklik van Bloemfontein is. Sy het ook 'n broer Johann.

Weet enigiemand enigiets meer oor hierdie gesin, veral wie Hendrik Willem STRAUSS se voorouers was?

Groete Jaco

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6877 Datum: Mon Dec 15, 2014 Daar is 4 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 12 Desember 2014 by "Hester Marx" 2a RE: [SA-Gen] Foto's: Möller en V an der Merwe by boschjapie 3a Re: [SA-Gen] Foto's: Möller en Van der Merwe by "Daniel Jacobs" danielmalanjacobs 4 Kieserslys - Olifant- 70% mylpaal by "Dennis Pretorius"

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1 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 12 Desember 2014 Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:09 am (PST) . Posted by: "Hester Marx"

Geen berigte vir Saterdag 13 Desember 2014 & Maandag 15 Desember 2014

Gelukwensings

JANSEN, Aubrey en Pauline. Geluk op „n goue 50. Gesëend met 5 kinders, 6 kleinkinders, 2 agterkleinkinders.. Liefde – van al die kinders. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 12/12/2014)

Sterfgevalle

NORTJE, Martha Magdalena Elizabeth. +Donderdag 11 Desember 2014. Begrafnisdiens Dinsdag 16 Desember 2014 11:00 Volle Evangeliekerk van God, Suttonweg, Sidwell. Forest Hill-begraafplaas. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 12/12/2014) Heila, First Avenue Funeral Home 041 581 5028

WOLMARANS, Matilda (Tillie). 68 jaar. +Dinsdag 09 Desember 2014 in P. E. Kinders, kleinkinders. Gedenkdiens Woensdag 17 Desember 2013 9:00 NG Kerk Van Stadensrivier, St. Albans, Port Elizabeth. Verassing privaat. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 12/12/2014) Ooskaap Begrafnisdienste 041 992 5704

Hester Marx, Loerie [email protected]

2a RE: [SA-Gen] Foto's: Möller en V an der Merwe Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:50 am (PST) . Posted by: boschjapie

Baie dankie, Marietta.

Groot waardering vir die doopinskrywings wat jy gestuur het. Ek het dit dalk nie duidelik gestel nie. Ek is op soek na GESIGfoto's van Charl Abraham Möller (1820 -- 1895) en sy vrou Catharina Johanna van der Merwe (1843 -- 1882). Dit is die enigste twee foto's wat ek kort om 'n muurkaart van 5 geslagte te voltooi. Ek dink my kanse om dit te kry, is skraal, maar dalk kan iemand tog help.

Terloops, met Legacy 8 De Lux se "Charting"; kan 'n mens werklik kunswerke maak. Japie Bosch, Jeffreysbaai.

3a Re: [SA-Gen] Foto's: Möller en Van der Merwe Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:00 am (PST) . Posted by: "Daniel Jacobs" danielmalanjacobs

Beste Japie

Kontak die Drakensteinse Heemkring. Dalk is jy gelukkig en is daar negatiewe van die persone in die Gribble-versameling.

Die Hopkins-versameling in die KAB het ook heelwat foto's van o.a. die ou Bolanders/Overbergers Kyk op die MANA databasis op NAAIRS of daar nie dalk iets is nie. Uiteraard relatief skaars kans.

Oor moontlikheid m.b.t. Gribble--versameling is ek baie meer positief. Van my Wellington/Franschhoek/Paarl-voorouers se foto's is daar negatiewe in die versameling.

Groete Daniel Jacobs

Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na www.gendata.co.za

2014-12-14 21:52 GMT+02:00 [email protected] [SAGenealogie] < [email protected]>:

> Dag vriende. Ek is naarstig op soek na twee foto's: Charl Abraham Möller > (1820 -- 1895) en sy vrou Catharina Johanna van der Merwe (1843 -- 1882). > Albei was van Tulbagh. Hulp hiermee sal baie waardeer word.

> Japie Bosch, > Jeffreysbaai.

4 Kieserslys - Olifant- 70% mylpaal Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:25 am (PST) . Posted by: "Dennis Pretorius"

Hallo Almal

Martie het laat weet dat met die bydra gister van Danie en Elorina het die ou Olifant nou meer as 70% van sy pad gestap na die eindstreep toe. Net meer as 70 % (412) van die fiches is nou reeds voltooi. Dit is nog „n groot stap na die eindstreep !

Daar is natuurlik nog heelwat “work in progress” met onvoltooide fiche waaraan gewerk word wat by die 70% getel moet word.

Nogmaals dankie aan al die getroue deelnemers – ons waardeer elke naam wat getik word – dit bring ons elke keer een klein stappie nader aan ons doelwit

Ons kan nog „n paar nuwe tikkers gebruik – as daar mense is wat graag wil toegang kry tot die kieserslys terwyl hulle tik en bydra tot hierdie groot projek.

Groetnis en geniet vandag se Vakansie en feestelikheid

Dennis Pretorius Krugersdorp South Africa Tel – 011-762-8911 Cel - 083-679-8541 Fax – 086-609-8541

From: Martie du Toit [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 9:00 PM To: Danie Meintjes Cc: 'Dennis Pretorius' Subject: Re: Olifant- 70% mylpaal

Baie dankie Danie. Dis inderdaad „n kersgeskenk. Met jou volledige bydrae asook met Elorina du Plessis gister staan ons voltooide lêers nou op 412/ 70.07 %

Ek sal dit aan Dennis oor laat om die lyslede in kennis te stel van die mylpaal

Baie dankie nogmaals Martie

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6878 Datum: Tue Dec 16, 2014 Daar is 11 boodskappe in hieride uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1 Maria Cornelia VAN ZYL (1824 - 1902) by "Fanie Buys" fbuys1968 2 Tobias Johannes LOUW by "Nicky Lategan" nickylate 3 Re: DE KLERK X SCHOEMAN by "Gert Coertzen" coertzen 4 Coertse Nasate Register by "Ferdie van Wyk" 5a Re: [SA-Gen] Foto's: Möller en Van der Merwe by boschjapie 6 Die Benade Familieregister - Deur Jacques by "Ferdie van Wyk" 7 [Press ] Daily News Tuesday 16 Dec 2014. by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 8 [Press] The Mercury / Daily News 15 Dec 2014 by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 9 [Press] Saterday Independent 13 Dec 2014 CREDITORS ...... by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 10a Aanduiding vir "nooit getroud"? by "Bobbie Crowther" bobsepos 10b Re: Aanduiding vir "nooit getroud"? by "Ockert Malan"

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1 Maria Cornelia VAN ZYL (1824 - 1902) Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:36 am (PST) . Posted by: "Fanie Buys" fbuys1968

Middag Lyslede

Weet iemand dalk wanneer Maria Cornelia VAN ZYL (1824 - 1902) dv GJ VAN ZYL & FW LOMBAARD met

Gabriël Jacobus MEYBURGH getroud is ?

Ek sal ook sy ouers se besonderhede wil hê as dit beskikbaar is.

Groete Fanie Buys Posbus 2924 Sasolburg 0829296695 Vanne: Buys, de Buys, Coetzee

2 Tobias Johannes LOUW Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:40 am (PST) . Posted by: "Nicky Lategan" nickylate

Middag lyslede

Tobias Johannes LOUW (Tobie) * 7.3.1850 Boer en eienaar van „Laborie‟ en „Picardie‟ dist. Paarl

Volgens sy vrou Christina Johanna LATEGAN (Kittie) se sterfkennis is Tobias oorlede Januarie 1931, maar volgens SAG Vol 5a p.290 is hy oorlede 25.1.1930.

Weet iemand dalk beter?

Groetnis Nicky LATEGAN REGISTER

3 Re: DE KLERK X SCHOEMAN Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:57 am (PST) . Posted by: "Gert Coertzen" coertzen

Naand almal,

Ek wil graag iemand help wat vir my n navraag gestuur het maar ek is nie bekend met die twee familie stambome nie.

Theunis Christiaan de Klerk x Elizabeth Maria Schoeman, Somerset-Oos Pearston area.

Daar is geen datums gegee nie. Die persoon soek die kinders se name.

Verder het ek niks.

GROETNIS GERT COERTZEN

4 Coertse Nasate Register Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:40 am (PST) . Posted by: "Ferdie van Wyk"

Goeienaand Almal,

By hierdie skakel kan jy lees van die Coertse's. http://www.genza.org.za/index.php/en/publications-62725/family-registers

Ferdie van Wyk Webbestuurder/Web Manager: www.genza.org.za Centurion

5a Re: [SA-Gen] Foto's: Möller en Van der Merwe Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:28 pm (PST) . Posted by: boschjapie

Goeie naand Daniël.

Baie dankie vir die inligting. Dis 'n waardevolle bronne. Ek sien uit na dié soektog.

Groete. Japie Bosch, Jeffreysbaai. 6 Die Benade Familieregister - Deur Jacques Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:35 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Ferdie van Wyk"

Goeiemôre al die Tuisblyers en ander wat by die see is!!

By hierdie skakel kan jy Jacques Benade se Benade navorsing lees. Vergewis jouself oor wat hy in die Inleiding sê.

Dankie Jacques. http://www.genza.org.za/index.php/en/publications-62725/family-registers.

Ferdie van Wyk Webbestuurder/Web Manager: www.genza.org.za Centurion

7 [Press ] Daily News Tuesday 16 Dec 2014. Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:18 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:-“ The most wasted of all days is one without laughter. “ – EE CUMMINGS.

BIRTH:- PERKINS nee ORATOR Andrew & Romy a girl Sienna * 11 Dec 2014. Grandchild for James & Mary and Rob ORATOR.

ENGAGEMENT:- ESCREET Russell & Grace announce engagement of their only daughter Chadé to Luke , son of Deon VISSER and Carol MULLER.

DEATHS:-SYDNEY HOSTAGE DRAMA:-DAWSON Katrina (28) a lawyer & Tori JOHNSON (34) the café manager and the gunman an Iranian-born Man Haron MONIS (50)

ADAMS nee CAMPBELL Joan Margret + 8 Dec 2014 at age 91 years x + Hugh. Mother of Carol, Michael, Jane and mother-in-law of Paul, Audrey and Alastair. Grandmother of Guy, James, Andrew, Sarah, and Matthew. Private cremation in Johannesburg on 18 Dec 2014 at 10am at Braamfontein Crematorium Chapel.

ANDERSON Gertie 12 Feb 1923 ----14 Dec 2014 at home x + Douglas. Mother of Barbara and Milkos, Doug & Jill . Grandmother of Stacey, Ryan, Andrew, Kelly. Great-grandmother of Lucy, Tom and Isla.

BEERE Ken . Father and Grndfather. Condolences from Robin & Marcia.

BULLEY Rodney (Spike0 2 June 1926 -----15 Dec 2014 x Jean. Father and father-in-law of Bruce and Colwynne, Trevor and Bronwyn. Grandfather of Laura, Joanne, Ashlyn, Megan and Robyn. Wake early 2015.

COBBOLD nee GIBSON Sally + 13 Dec 2014 of cancer x John. Sister to Rob . Aunt of Lin, Les, Shaz, David and Helen.

DAVIES Allan Ivor 11 Sept 1928 -----11 Dec 2014 . Husband , father and grandfather of Lilian, Steve, Lesley and Roy, David, Linda and Simon, Heather and Martin, Shauna, Blake, Gareth, Caroline and Neill. Thank you from family to Doctors, staff at Bluff Medicross, St Augustine‟s and friends for love and compassion.; Memorial at St Margaret‟s Presbyterian Church Brighton Beach Bluff on 18 Dec 2014 at 11:30. No flowers ,donation to Hospice. OAKLEIGH 031 2059959.

GOPALAN Sampurnam x + Armugum GOPALAN. Mother of Adilutchmee, Pushpaleela, Kamla, Devi, Eddie, Vasie and + Didda, Siva & Goonum. Funeral at Stanger Siva Sungum Hall on 16 Dec 2014 between 11:15 ---2pm . Proceeding to Stanger Crematorium for cremation at 3pm. RAMBOS TEL:- 032 5513150.

HEBER-PERCY Philip Reginald 13 Oct 1929 ----11 Dec 2014 x Cherie. Father of Robyn, Julia and Kim. Grandfather of Trevor, Bruce and their families. Memorial at City Hall Hillcrest on 20 Dec 2014 at 10am. AVBOB .

HOGE Lieutenant Mthokozi Michael + 10 Dec 2014 (50). He was gunned down at his house. Brother of Mgodi.

KEARSEY Steve . Condolences to Patty and family. From your Longtom Golfmates.

LEECH Brian Joe. Brother and uncle of Beryl, Grant, Roslyn and Warren.

PATTON nee GIBB Janet + 13 Dec 2014 . Mother of Michael and Heather, Peter and Barbara and Judy. Grandmother of Leanne, Craig and Wayne. Great-grandmother of Chloe, Fenn, Tao, Kieran, Mia , Kai and Cole. Memorial at Garden Grove St Thomas Rd Berea Durban on 19 Dec 2014 at 10am. OAKLEIGH 031 2059959.

SULLIVAN Wendy Jane 18 Dec 1954 -----10 Dec 2014 . SULLIVAN & JOHNSON family invite you to join in the celebration of the life of Wendy Jane on18 Dec 2014 at 2pm at Grace Family Church Umhlanga Rocks.

VON SEIDEL Diane (Di) + 13 Dec 2014. Sister and aunt. No flowers. Donations to Vulingqondo Pre-School.

MEMORIAM:- BROWN Duncan (Doggie) 17 May 1930 -----16 Dec 2003 x Marie. Father of Craig, Vannesse, Lloyd, Nicole and families.

Gegroet uit matige nag in Durban Rita Queb.

8 [Press] The Mercury / Daily News 15 Dec 2014 Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:18 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:-" Do not waste time bothering whether you 'love ' your neighbour; act as if you did." -C S LEWIS.

DEATHS:- DLAMINI Simphiwe (23) killed by train at Klaarwater Station Marianhill at weekend. Brother of Khulani DLAMINI (29). DAILY NEWS. HASSETT Joyce Elizabeth + 8 Dec 2014 in Vereeniging . Mother of Gordon & Jo and Lorraine & Courtney. Grand and great-grandmother. DAILY NEWS.

MAKHASI Hlumisa (3 ) drowened in a pit toilet in France , outside Pietermaritzburg. Son of Simphiwe GQOTHA. DAILY NEWS

NAIDOO Pragalathan (Danny) x Molly. Father of Kobashini, Nerisha and Prenola, son-in-law and grandchildren. Brother of Pinky and Saroj. Funeral at Dravida Hall, Clare Estate from 11---2pm on 16 Dec 2014 proceeding to Clare Estate Crematorium at 2pm.

PENNEFATHER Mary 6 July 1926 -----11 Dec 2014 in the UK x Brian . Mother of Mark, Stephan, Rosalyn. Grandmother of John, Amy, David, Alan and Sean.

REDDY Munsami (Ronnie) + 14 Dec 2014 x Radha REDDY. Father of Marlene, Seelan and Kelvin, father-in-law of Vishnu , Anusha, Seshni. Grandfather of Revantho, Sayeshan and Thariah. Funeral on 15 Dec 2014 from his residence 7-25th Ave Umhlathuzana from 10am ---3pm proceeding to Clare Estate Cemetery.

SIGNORELLI nee LARSEN Ida Mattie . Memorial on 17 Dec 2014 at Overport Congregational Church at 10am. For Info TEL:- 083 3904632 Robin. OAKLEIGH 031 2059959.

SILVAN Joseph (Patric) of Newcastle. Funeral on 16 Dec 2014 at Kingdom Living Ministry Newlands East from 09h30.Proceeding to Dudley Street Cemetery.

WARD Justin (History Teacher at Durban High School) was found dead at his home. Leanne JANSEN

MEMORIAM:-PRIOR /PETERSEN Hester + 15 Dec 2013 . Love from Mom and Charmaine.

NESBITT Bradley. 14 years gone now.Remembered by Ted & Beryl,; Colleen, Byron and Kerry.

Gegroet uit Durban waar dit vanoggend gereen het en sover niks meer nie. Rita Quebbemann.

9 [Press] Saterday Independent 13 Dec 2014 CREDITORS ...... Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:19 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:- " The way to get good ideas is to get lots of ideas , and then throw the bad ones away. " - Dr Linus PAULING.

FIRST /FINAL:- HOOEY Denys Harold ID 150820 5003 08 1 + none and no Address. ESTATE No 6135/2013. MICHAEL MATTHEWS & ASSOCIATES Suite D1, Westlake Square, 1 Westlake Drive, Westlake.

Gegroet uit Rita Quebbemann.

10a Aanduiding vir "nooit getroud"? Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:12 am (PST) . Posted by: "Bobbie Crowther" bobsepos

Môre lysteraars

Elke keer as ek een van die publikasies lees, in die geval die laaste Familia, dan leer ek iets. Die keer, hoe om aan te dui dat 'n persoon/egpaar nie kinders gehad het nie: sp (sine prole)

Baie handig.

My vraag dan: hoe dui 'n mens aan (in navorsing teks) dat iemand nooit getroud was nie? Die latyn daarvoor is "numquam desponsavit", (dankie google) so die aanname is "nd". Wat is die standaard?

Vriendelike groete Bobbie

My voorouers: Crowther & Oosthuizen. Crowther & Lourens; Oosthuizen & Prinsloo. Crowther & Bothma; Lourens & Jacobs; Oosthuizen & Pretorius; Prinsloo & Pretorius. Crowther (SV) & Lubbe; Bothma & Coetzee; Lourens & Oosthuizen; Jacobs & Raath; Oosthuizen & Herholdt; Pretorius & v.d Merwe; Prinsloo & Cronje; Pretorius & Hoffman.

Navorsing oor: Crowther (Landswyd), Oosthuizen (Jacobsdal), Prinsloo (van die plaas Amerika, Bloemfontein), Bothma (nageslag van Jan Daniel, 1807 -1871, Italie, Ladybrand), Lourens (van Vinknes, Reitz), Lubbe (nageslag van Schalk Willem, 1781 - 1863, Spreeufontein, Bethulie)

10b Re: Aanduiding vir "nooit getroud"? Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:41 am (PST) . Posted by: "Ockert Malan"

As ek reg onthou is daar 'n tyd gelede 'n werkgroep gestig ( in GGSA?) om nuwe/aanvullende genealogiese afkortings te ondersoek en aanbevelings te maak.

Wat het daarvan geword?

O G M

2014-12-17 10:11 GMT+02:00 Bobbie Crowther [email protected] [SAGenealogie] :

> Môre lysteraars > > Elke keer as ek een van die publikasies lees, in die geval die laaste > Familia, dan leer ek iets. > Die keer, hoe om aan te dui dat 'n persoon/egpaar nie kinders gehad het > nie: sp (sine prole) > Baie handig. > > My vraag dan: hoe dui 'n mens aan (in navorsing teks) dat iemand nooit > getroud was nie? > Die latyn daarvoor is "numquam desponsavit", (dankie google) so die > aanname is "nd". > Wat is die standaard? > > Vriendelike groete > > Bobbie > > My voorouers: > Crowther & Oosthuizen. > Crowther & Lourens; Oosthuizen & Prinsloo. > Crowther & Bothma; Lourens & Jacobs; Oosthuizen & Pretorius; Prinsloo & > Pretorius. > Crowther (SV) & Lubbe; Bothma & Coetzee; Lourens & Oosthuizen; Jacobs & > Raath; Oosthuizen & Herholdt; Pretorius & v.d Merwe; Prinsloo & Cronje; > Pretorius & Hoffman. > > Navorsing oor: Crowther (Landswyd), Oosthuizen (Jacobsdal), Prinsloo > (van die plaas Amerika, Bloemfontein), Bothma (nageslag van Jan Daniel, > 1807 -1871, Italie, Ladybrand), Lourens (van Vinknes, Reitz), Lubbe > (nageslag van Schalk Willem, 1781 - 1863, Spreeufontein, Bethulie)

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6879 Datum: Wed Dec 17, 2014 Daar is 7 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1 Per ongeluk ge - Unsubscribe by "Magda Schoeman" 2a Re: Tobias Johannes LOUW by "Nicky Lategan" nickylate 3 Beeld - 15/12/2014 by "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie 4 [PRESS] Beeld - 16 Des.2014 by "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie 5 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 17 Desember 2014 by "Hester Marx" 6a Re: Aanduiding vir "nooit getroud"? by "Bobbie Crowther" bobsepos 7 [Press] The Mercury /Daily News Wed 17 Dec 2014 by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Messages

1 Per ongeluk ge - Unsubscribe Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:16 am (PST) . Posted by: "Magda Schoeman"

Ai toggie, so jammer ek wou nie julle unsubscribe nie maar n ander spam wat aanmekaar deurkom!

Asb moet my nie afhaal nie!!!

So jammer!

Magda Magda Schoeman P.O. Box 12002 Garden Route Mall 6546 Tel: + 27 44 8890142 Cell: + 27 83 2257733 Fax: + 086 770 0942

2a Re: Tobias Johannes LOUW Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:26 am (PST) . Posted by: "Nicky Lategan" nickylate

Ek het my vraag beantwoord gekry deur Paul le Roux. Dankie Paul.

Die datum op die sterfkennis was verkeerd

Nicky

From: mailto:[email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 16 December, 2014 3:40 PM To: SA-Gen Subject: [SA-Gen] Tobias Johannes LOUW

Middag lyslede Tobias Johannes LOUW (Tobie) * 7.3.1850 Boer en eienaar van „Laborie‟ en „Picardie‟ dist. Paarl

Volgens sy vrou Christina Johanna LATEGAN (Kittie) se sterfkennis is Tobias oorlede Januarie 1931, maar volgens SAG Vol 5a p.290 is hy oorlede 25.1.1930.

Weet iemand dalk beter?

Groetnis Nicky LATEGAN REGISTER

3 Beeld - 15/12/2014 Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:33 am (PST) . Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie

NN (REYNEKE?); Pn (Seun * 24/08/2006). Martin REYNEKE kontak dringend vir Liesl TRUTER, sosiale werker by 072-053-4732 oor aanneming van jou Seun. (Beeld - 15/12/2014)

PISTORIUS-BREWER; Elani Beanette-Nanna. In Memorium: Tot ons herenig by God, ma, Pa, Alita, Frizelna en Jordan. (Beeld - 15/12/2014)

Verlowing; Teresa DUBBER d/v Lynette DUBBER aan Ryno VAN RENSBURG s/v Lanzi en Whitey VAN RENSBURG op 14/12/2014. (Beeld - 15/12/2014)

Groete, Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.

[Blignaut x Laubscher; Els x Blignaut; Pretorius x Bloem; Kruger x Pretorius.] [Bouwer x Meyer; Bouwer x Wild; Pretorius x v/d Merwe; Pretorius x Potgieter; Potgieter x Barkhuizen]

4 [PRESS] Beeld - 16 Des.2014 Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:48 am (PST) . Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie

RIBBENS; Reylia, in lewe van Pretoria. Teraardbestelling: Pretoria-Oos Begraafplaas, 17/12/2014, 13:00. Erediens: NG Kerk Meyerspark, Pretoria, 17/12/2014, 14:00. (Beeld - 15/12/2014) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Oos, 012-460-3745.

Groete,

Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.

[Blignaut x Laubscher; Els x Blignaut; Pretorius x Bloem; Kruger x Pretorius.] [Bouwer x Meyer; Bouwer x Wild; Pretorius x v/d Merwe; Pretorius x Potgieter; Potgieter x Barkhuizen

5 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 17 Desember 2014 Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:42 am (PST) . Posted by: "Hester Marx"

Sterfgevalle

RUDMAN, Magriet. 86 jaar. +Sondag 14 Desember 2014 in Port Elizabeth. Kinders, kleinkinders, agterkleinkinders. Begrafnisdiens Vrydag 19 Des. 2014 11:00 NG Kerk Welgevonden. Begraafplaas op die plaas Welgevonden. (Die Burger O-Kaap 17/12/2014) Ooskaap Begrafnisdienste 041 992 5704

STEENKAMP, Wepener. +Saterdag 13 Desember 2014. Vrou en dogter. Diens Donderdag 18 Desember 2014 10:00 Milnerton Huis-kapel, First Avenue Funeral Home, 1ste Laan, Walmer. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 17/12/2014) Marzelle, First Avenue Funeral Home 041 581 5028

In Memoriam

TAIT, Colin. +16/12/2008. Ons dierbare seun is al ses jaar weg. Ons eer jou nagedagtenis. Ouers Fanie en Joey TERBLANCHE. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 17/12/2014)

Hester Marx, Loerie [email protected]

6a Re: Aanduiding vir "nooit getroud"? Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:05 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Bobbie Crowther" bobsepos

Sjoe O G M ek weet nie, OMG!

Nietemin het iemand 'n antwoord? Dit sal baie minder teks in my dokument beteken...

Bobbie

> On 17 Des 2014, at 10:26, Ockert Malan [email protected] [SAGenealogie] wrote: > > As ek reg onthou is daar 'n tyd gelede 'n werkgroep gestig ( in GGSA?) om nuwe/aanvullende genealogiese afkortings te ondersoek en aanbevelings te maak. > > Wat het daarvan geword? > > O G M > > 2014-12-17 10:11 GMT+02:00 Bobbie Crowther [email protected] [SAGenealogie] : >> >> Môre lysteraars >> >> Elke keer as ek een van die publikasies lees, in die geval die laaste Familia, dan leer ek iets. >> Die keer, hoe om aan te dui dat 'n persoon/egpaar nie kinders gehad het nie: sp (sine prole) >> Baie handig. >> >> My vraag dan: hoe dui 'n mens aan (in navorsing teks) dat iemand nooit getroud was nie? >> Die latyn daarvoor is "numquam desponsavit", (dankie google) so die aanname is "nd".Â >> Wat is die standaard? >> >> Vriendelike groete >> >> Bobbie >> >> My voorouers: >> Crowther & Oosthuizen. >> Crowther & Lourens; Oosthuizen & Prinsloo. >> Crowther & Bothma; Lourens & Jacobs; Oosthuizen & Pretorius; Prinsloo & Pretorius. >> Crowther (SV) & Lubbe; Bothma & Coetzee; Lourens & Oosthuizen; Jacobs & Raath; Oosthuizen & Herholdt; Pretorius & v.d Merwe; Prinsloo & Cronje; Pretorius & Hoffman. >> >> Navorsing oor: Crowther (Landswyd), Â Oosthuizen (Jacobsdal), Â Prinsloo (van die plaas Amerika, Bloemfontein), Bothma (nageslag van Jan Daniel, 1807 -1871, Italie, Ladybrand), Lourens (van Vinknes, Reitz), Lubbe (nageslag van Schalk Willem, 1781 - 1863, Spreeufontein, Bethulie)

7 [Press] The Mercury /Daily News Wed 17 Dec 2014 Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:04 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:- " In life you don't get anywhere or do anything you hope to without some sort of sacrifice." -Durban bisinessman Stephen SAAD.

THIS I find good:- " Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. " - Kurt VONNEGUT.

MARRIAGES:-BEER Craig & Elvie married in Amanzimtoti. (photo)

COPPER Jonathan & Nicole married at the Boathouse, Ballito. (photo).

MAHABEER Umesh & Nadia married at Collisheen Estate Ballito. (photo)

MZOBE Victor & Melanie FELTON married at Christ Church, Durban. (photo).

NAICKER Lowaynne & Abbigale married at DLI Hall, Durban. (photo)

NAIDOO Deven & Priya married at Veerabonga Cultural Centre, Tongaat. (photo)

VAN DER VYVER Charl & Chantelle married at Durban Botanic Gardens. (photo)

VOSLOO Morne & Melanie married at Providence , KZN Midlands (photo)

DEATHS:-EAGLEVILLE:- STONE Bradley William age 35 from Pennsburg. His body was found 16 Dec 2014 -1/2 km from home .He was an Iraq War veteran who was sought in the killing of his ex-wife Nicole, her mother, grandmother, sister and 2 other relatives on 15 Dec 2014 in . Bradley and Nicole had 2 daughters aged 8 and 5 .They are not hurt. REUTERS. ARENDSE Roy Craig 10 Aug 1958 ---14 Dec 2014. Father of Jared and Craig. Son of Beryl and brother of Steven and Clive. Memorial at Westville Athletic Club Westville on 19 Dec 2014 at 14:30pm. OAKLEIGH Funeral Home 031 2059959.

CALLAWAY Fiona 16 Feb 1936 -----12 Dec 2014. Funeral at St Mary's Catholic Church Loop Street on 18 Dec 2014 at 10am. No Flowers. Donation to Seventh Heaven. DOVES 0860025500.

GUY Jeff + 15 Dec 2014 at the airport in England at age 74 . He was to return back to Durban. Renoewned historian an author Professor. He wrote " The Destruction of the Zulu Kingdom . His latest book was launched last year was "Theophilus Shepstone and the forging of Natal" (Barbara COLE). Brother of Johnnie GUY. Also leaves behind his former wife Naimi and their children Joe and Heli and grandfather of Zoe.

HUGHES Leonard Stuart 7 Oct 1937 -----13 Dec 2014 x Anthia. Dad of Trevor , Missy , Terri, Dianne and David. Grandfather of Patrick, Kayleigh, Daniel, Jason, Robyn and Tristan. Memorial at All Saints Church, Nottingham Rd on 18 Dec 2014 at 10:30am. OAKLEIGH Funeral Home 031 2059959.

KNUDSON Peter Arne Normann 19 Dec 1955 ----14 Dce 2014.. Only son of Dorothy & + Arne B KNUDSEN . Brother of Caroline and Diane. Brother-in-law of Peter and Adrian. Uncle and great-uncle.

MELLOR Frida 1922 -----13 Dec 2014 at age 92 at her home in Pinetown. Mother of Suzette, Rupert and Rhys. Grand and great-grandmother. Thank you to Gladys , caregiver from Console Care Agency. Celebration of her life at Stellawood Cemetery Chapel on 20 Dec 2014 at 11am. OAKLEIGH Funeral Home 031 2059959.

THOMAS Gregory Isaac Isaac 9 Feb 1959 ----11 Dec 2014 x Brenda. Father of Coralle, Steven, Merryl, Keagan. Son of + Andrew & Margaret THOMAS. Youngest brother of Anne, John, Elizabeth, Malcolm and Dawn. Grandfather of Leron, Liam, Kaliyah and Reid. Father-in-law to Mark, Susan, Cuan and Chanel. Funeral at Austervill Community Hall on 19 Dec 2014 at 10:30am proceeding to Dudley Street Cemetery.

MEMORIAM:-geen

Gegroet uit redelike warm bewolkte nag in Durban. Rita Quebbemann.

Onderwerp:[SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6880 Datum: Thu Dec 18, 2014 Daar is 4 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1a Re: Rolene Strauss se herkoms? by "Dewald Jean Vogts-Vanzyl" djmatla2.vanzyl 1b Re: Rolene Strauss se herkoms? by debbie_pretorius1981 2 [Press] Daily News Thursday 18 Dec 2014 by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 3 Willem Jacobus Janse(n) Van Rensburg by debbie_pretorius1981

Messages

1a Re: Rolene Strauss se herkoms? Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:03 am (PST) . Posted by: "Dewald Jean Vogts-Vanzyl" djmatla2.vanzyl

Hello Jaco

Ek weet haar oupa is (afgetrede) Prof Johann Strauss en haar ouma is Elsie Strauss, maar verder weet ek ongelukkig self niks van haar voorgeslagte.

Groete Dewald Jean Vogts-Vanzyl Bloemfontein, Suid-Afrika E-pos: [email protected] en [email protected] Vanne: Rennison, Wagener, Van Zyl, Venter, Van der Walt, Vogts,Van der Merwe, Buys (de Buys, du Buis), Laing, Griffith, Wright (and most other families, trying to create one very big tree)

On Monday, 15 December 2014, 11:15, "Jaco Strauss [email protected] [SAGenealogie]" wrote:

Môre lede Vanoggend hoor ek toe dat Rolene STRAUSS as Mej. Wêreld gekroon is en ek sou natuurlik graag wou vasstel hoe sy by die res van die STRAUSS familie inpas. Al wat ek sover uit die koerante kon kry is dat haar ouers Dr Hendrik Willem (Hennie) Strauss van Volksrust en Theresa STRAUSS (nooiensvan onbekend) oorspronklik van Bloemfontein is. Sy het ook 'n broer Johann. Weet enigiemand enigiets meer oor hierdie gesin, veral wie Hendrik Willem STRAUSS se voorouers was?

Groete Jaco

1b Re: Rolene Strauss se herkoms? Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:54 pm (PST) . Posted by: debbie_pretorius1981

Goeiedag Jaco, Volgens Amanda Stander se Facebook groep " Stander Familieboom in SA" is Rolene se ma Theresa

Stander. Lyna 1b8c6 Adriaan Hendrikus STANDER x Anna Dorothea GERICKE. Groete Debbie Pretorius

On Monday, 15 December 2014, 11:15, "Jaco Strauss jacostrauss@... [SAGenealogie]" wrote:

Môre lede

Vanoggend hoor ek toe dat Rolene STRAUSS as Mej. Wêreld gekroon is en ek sou natuurlik graag wou vasstel hoe sy by die res van die STRAUSS familie inpas.

Al wat ek sover uit die koerante kon kry is dat haar ouers Dr Hendrik Willem (Hennie) Strauss van Volksrust en Theresa STRAUSS (nooiensvan onbekend) oorspronklik van Bloemfontein is. Sy het ook 'n broer Johann.

Weet enigiemand enigiets meer oor hierdie gesin, veral wie Hendrik Willem STRAUSS se voorouers was?

Groete Jaco

2 [Press] Daily News Thursday 18 Dec 2014 Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:50 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:- "What we have to do is to be forever curiously testing new opinions and courting new impressions." Walter PATER.

BIRTHS:-ZEISS Chantel & Trevor a boy and a girl * 17 Dec 2014. Love from Mom, Frank and Grant.

DEATH:- NEW YORK:- TERRELL Ernie * in Mississippi died 16 Dec 2014 at age 75 , in Roseland, Chicargo at his home. He had suffered from dementia. He was former heavy-weight boxing champion known for his punishing loss to Muhammad ALI in the famed "What's My Name?" fight in 1967. He was also a music producer after he retired from boxing. His sister Jean replaced Diana ROSS as lead singer for The Supremes in 1970. He was a singer in his group Ernie Terrell and the Heavyweights. They performed in Las Vagas.

BENDORIS Kathleen + 16 Dec 2014 RIP from Daryl, Carol, Mary and Justin.

BULLEY Rodney (Spike) . Sympathy to Jean, Bruce and Trevor. From Nigel and Vee and all the family in Australia , Hillcrest and Caledon.

KEARSEY Stephen + 14 Dec 2014 (cancer) . Memorial at Kloof Methodist Church on 18 Dec 2014 at 14:30pm.

PATHER Mrs Pushpa x Bala PATHER . Mother of Patty Moodley and Jayris PATHER. Mother-in-law of Bala MOODLEY and Deshni PATHER. Daughter of Mr & Mrs Ganas ARCHERY. Sister to Michael, Sabba & Paul ARCHERY. Funeral on 18 Dec 2014 at 17 Ramroop Rd, Ottawa from 11am ---15h00 proceeding to Tongaat Crematorium for cremation at 16:30. TONGAAT FUNERALS 032 9444290.

PILLAY Ganasen (Ganny) 13 May 1940 ---17 Dec 2014. Funeral on 18 Dec 2014 at 26 Petalgreen Place Greenbury Phoenix from 12h00 ---13h00 proceeding to RB Chetty Hall Greenbury Phoenix from 13h00---16h00. Cremation at Clare Estate Crematorium at 17h00.

RUDLIN T W (Billy) + 8 Dec 2014 x Dot . Father of Dalen and Ronelle and Gaye. Grandfather of Jody, Cole, Chloe and Malia. In-law of Barnwell. Memorial at St John's Anglican Church Sydenham at 11am on 20 Dec 2014.

VON SEIDEL Diane. Memorial at the Lutheran Church Hall Umbilo on 22 Dec 2014 at 09:30am. Tea afterwards.

WARD Justin Kenmuir 11 Jan 1977 ----13 Dec 2014 . Son of Gavin & Karen. Brother of Megan and Helen. Brother-in-law of Rory and uncle Skunkle to Brennah, Sean and Cullen. Nephew to Ronald, Lisa, Ken, Tim and Tressa. Cousin of Phillippa, Sarah, Clinton, Paul and Graham. Cremation private in presence of his family.

WILLARD Claudelle Carol. 10 Oct 1982 ----13 Dec 2014 . Daughter of Robert & Llona. Sister of Mellesa, Wesley and Safeena. Mother to Lamique and aunt to Nicholas, Junaid, Taariq and Zaid WILLARD. Funeral on 19 Dec 2014. Body will lie in state at The Holy Family Catholic Parish Newlands East from 10:30----11h00 Mass at till 12noon Private cremation . NEWLANDS CITY Funerals 031 3071600.

MEMORIAM:- MULQUEENY Saul Daniel. Died tragically. Now with brother Jose and Mom. Love from Dad, Elton, Rozanna, Laurelle and Molly. Remembered by Carmen, Danielle and Tristan.

PILLAY Indrani . Missed by Sandhiren, sister, brothers , sister-in-law, nieces , nephews. 1 Year memorial on 21 Dec 2014 at Stonebridge Community Hall Phoenix at 11-12noon.

Gegroet uit Durban Rita Queb.

3 Willem Jacobus Janse(n) Van Rensburg Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:47 am (PST) . Posted by: debbie_pretorius1981

Goeiedag almal,

Ek is opsoek na inligting oor Willem Jacobus Janse(n) Van Rensburg gebore en oorlede op Kareeboschkuil, Wolmaransstad x Catharina Magdalena +1941 (nooiensvan onbekend).

Sy ouers was Jacobus Frederik Janse(n) Van Rensburg *12 Mar 1833 + 4 Mar 1914 en Maria Elizabeth Swanepoel *31 Mar 1837 + 29 Aug 1901 Klerksdorp Konsentrasie Kamp.

Dit is my pa se tannie se oupa. Hy was die neef van Siener Van Rensburg.

Enige inligting is welkom.

Baie dankie.

Vriendelike groete Debbie Pretorius Rustenburg

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel nommer 6881 Datum: Fri Dec 19, 2014 Daar is 13 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 19 Desember 2014 by "Hester Marx" 2a Rolene Strauss se herkoms? by "Hendrik at Loogkolk" loogkolk09 2b Rolene Strauss se herkoms? by "Hendrik at Loogkolk" loogkolk09 2c Re: Rolene Strauss se herkoms? by debbie_pretorius1981 2d Rolene Strauss se herkoms? by "Hendrik at Loogkolk" loogkolk09 2e Re: Rolene Strauss se herkoms? by "Dewald Jean Vogts-Vanzyl" djmatla2.vanzyl 2f Re: Rolene Strauss se herkoms? by "CORRIE KRUGER" 2g Re: Rolene Strauss se herkoms? by "Gert Esterhuizen" jorgeestreux 3a Re: Willem Jacobus Janse(n) Van Rensburg by montxsuz 4 [Press] The Mercury /Daily News Friday 19 Dec 2014 CREDITORS..... by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 5 [Press] The Mercury /Daily News Fri 19 Dec 2014. by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 6a Re: Roetes van die ou transportryers by "Nic van Helsdingen" jean.vanh 6b Re: Roetes van die ou transportryers by "Nic van Helsdingen" jean.vanh

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1 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 19 Desember 2014 Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:12 am (PST) . Posted by: "Hester Marx"

Geen berigte vir Donderdag 18 Desember 2014

Sterfgevalle

PITIE, Marlene Mary. 61 jaar. Begrafnisdiens Saterdag 20 Desember 2014 11:00 UPC Kersogies-straat. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 19/12/2014) Van Willing Begrafnisdienste 041 988 1919

Hester Marx, Loerie [email protected]

2a Rolene Strauss se herkoms? Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:48 am (PST) . Posted by: "Hendrik at Loogkolk" loogkolk09

Na aanleiding van die leidrade wat hier verskyn het, dan die volgende ....

Groete Hendrik LOUW 011 976 4262

Husband: Prof. Johann STRAUSS Birth: 30 Aug 1935 Occupation: 1984 Professor SA ID Nommer: 1984 350830 5020 00 9 Death: Burial: Marriage:

Wife: Elsie Sophia AVIS Birth: 17 Oct 1935 Occupation: 1984 Huisvrou SA ID Nommer: 1984 351017 0018 00 1 Death: Burial:

Children 1 M Dr. Hendrik Willem STRAUSS Birth: 23 Jul 1963 Occupation: 1984 Student SA ID Nommer: 1984 630723 5056 00 2 Death: Burial: Spouse: Theresa STANDER

FAMILY NOTES HUSBAND NOTES: Prof. Johann STRAUSS General(1,2,3,4): Kmdt Senekalstraat 40, Dan Pienaar, Bloemfontein(1984KSL)

WIFE NOTES: Elsie Sophia AVIS General(5,6,4): Kmdt Senekalstraat 40, Dan Pienaar, Bloemfontein(1984KSL)

CHILD NOTES: Dr. Hendrik Willem STRAUSS General(7,8,4): oba: Hennie, van Volksrust (2014) Kmdt Senekalstraat 40, Dan Pienaar, Bloemfontein(1984KSL)

SOURCES 1. Department of Home Affairs / Departement Binnelandse Sake;. 1984 SA Kieserslys / 1984 SA Voters Roll. 1984 S045 / M12. 2. Department of Home Affairs / Departement Binnelandse Sake;. SuidAfrikaanse Nasionale Identiteitsnommer. 350830 5020 00 9. 3. Department of Home Affairs / Departement Binnelandse Sake;. 1984 SA Kieserslys / 1984 SA Voters Roll. 1984 S045 / F15. 4. KSL S045 StoryStrauss C01O18.xls. 5. Department of Home Affairs / Departement Binnelandse Sake;. SuidAfrikaanse Nasionale Identiteitsnommer. 351017 0018 00 1. 6. Department of Home Affairs / Departement Binnelandse Sake;. 1984 SA Kieserslys / 1984 SA Voters Roll. 1984 S045 / M12. 7. Department of Home Affairs / Departement Binnelandse Sake;. SuidAfrikaanse Nasionale Identiteitsnommer. 630723 5056 00 2. 8. Department of Home Affairs / Departement Binnelandse Sake;. 1984 SA Kieserslys / 1984 SA Voters Roll. 1984 S045 / P13.

Husband: Dr. Hendrik Willem STRAUSS Birth: 23 Jul 1963 Occupation: 1984 Student SA ID Nommer: 1984 630723 5056 00 2 Death: Burial: Marriage: Father: Prof. Johann STRAUSS (b 30 Aug 1935) Mother: Elsie Sophia AVIS (b 17 Oct 1935)

Wife: Theresa STANDER Birth: Chr: Death: Burial: Father: Adriaan Hendrikus STANDER Mother: Anna Dorothea GERICKE

Children 1 F Rolene STRAUSS Birth: Chr: Death: Burial: Marriage:

2 M Johann STRAUSS Birth: Chr: Death: Burial: Marriage:

FAMILY NOTES HUSBAND NOTES: Dr. Hendrik Willem STRAUSS General(1,2,3): oba: Hennie, van Volksrust (2014) Kmdt Senekalstraat 40, Dan Pienaar, Bloemfontein(1984KSL)

SOURCES 1. Department of Home Affairs / Departement Binnelandse Sake;. SuidAfrikaanse Nasionale Identiteitsnommer. 630723 5056 00 2. 2. Department of Home Affairs / Departement Binnelandse Sake;. 1984 SA Kieserslys / 1984 SA Voters Roll. 1984 S045 / P13. 3. KSL S045 StoryStrauss C01O18.xls.

Prepared 19 Dec 2014 by: Hendrik Louw

2b Rolene Strauss se herkoms? Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:45 am (PST) . Posted by: "Hendrik at Loogkolk" loogkolk09

Iets by Theresa STANDER se ouers is nie reg nie. In SAF word die volgende aangegee ... en dan is hulle mos hopeloos te oud om haar ouers te wees. Eers weer die boodskappe op SAGen gaan lees. c6 Adriaan ≈ 25.10.1798 x George 8.10.1820 Anna Dorothea GERICKE

Groete Hendrik LOUW

2c Re: Rolene Strauss se herkoms? Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:08 am (PST) . Posted by: debbie_pretorius1981

Goeiedag Hendrik,

Daar spring jy my voor.

Theresa stam vanuit daardie lyn af. Ek sal by Amanda die volle lyn se inligting vra en dit dan vir jou en die lyslede deurgee.

Groete Debbie Pretorius.

2d Rolene Strauss se herkoms? Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:36 am (PST) . Posted by: "Hendrik at Loogkolk" loogkolk09

Debbie

Baie dankie. Ek sien ek het effens deur 'n verkeerde oog gelees. In SAF is slegs die lyn tot en met e-geslag, dus kan ek nie vir Theresa plaas nie. Ek glo sy is in 1966 gebore as ek die regte persoon op die 1984 kieserslys het.

Groete Hendrik LOUW

2e Re: Rolene Strauss se herkoms? Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:28 am (PST) . Posted by: "Dewald Jean Vogts-Vanzyl" djmatla2.vanzyl

Hello Jaco

Ek weet in watter aftreeoord (min or meer watse huis) bly oom Johann en tannie Elsie Strauss, ek sal kyk of ek volgende jaar in Feb daar ñ draai kan maak en hul hele familie lyn kan kry (as iemand anders teen daai tyd jou nog nie verder kon help)

On Friday, 19 December 2014, 17:36, "'Hendrik at Loogkolk' [email protected] [SAGenealogie]" wrote:

Debbie Baie dankie. Ek sien ek het effens deur 'n verkeerde oog gelees. In SAF is slegs die lyn tot en met e-geslag, dus kan ek nie vir Theresa plaas nie. Ek glo sy is in 1966 gebore as ek die regte persoon op die 1984 kieserslys het.

Groete Hendrik LOUW

2f Re: Rolene Strauss se herkoms? Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:01 pm (PST) . Posted by: "CORRIE KRUGER" Hendrik/Debbie

Rolene se familie is as volg -

Barry J STANDER gebore op Prieska in 1938 word 'n onderwyser op Carnarvon. Hy trou daar met Cora LIEBENBERG gebore op Carnarvon. Barry (54) is 13 Februarie 1993 in Bloemfontein oorlede op die gholfbaan van Schoemanspark Bloemfontein.. Cora is op die stadium woonagtig in Pretoria. Cora was 'n goeie netbalspeler. Hul een dogter Lizeth is met Steve ROETS getroud.

Theresa STANDER is in middel 1960's op Carnarvon gebore.

Hulle verhuis 1967 na Bloemfontein waar Barry aan die Hoerskool Rossenhof verbonde was. Cora was bestuurder by een van die VOLKSKAS takke. Theresa in 1984 aan die San du Plessis Hoerskool in Bloemfontein matrikuleer. Terwyl sy studeer aan die Universiteit van die Vrystaat ontmoet sy 'n mediese student - Hendrik Willem STRAUSS. Hulle is in September 1987 getroud. Dieselfde jaar wat hy sy MB ChB behaal het.

Rolene is 22 April 1992 op Volksrust gebore. Rolene het 'n broer - Johann wat net 16 maande jonger as sy is.

Ek hoop dit help!

Groete Corrie

Debbie

Groete Hendrik LOUW

2g Re: Rolene Strauss se herkoms? Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:22 am (PST) . Posted by: "Gert Esterhuizen" jorgeestreux

Hallo Corrie, Volgens die kiesers lys was haar oupa en ouma Stander; Barend Jacobus (Barry) * 15 Jan 1939 en Cornelia Helena LIEBENBERG * 11 Aug 1937. Haar ma Teresa * 16 Jun 1966.. ek dal graag BJ se ouers wil vind aangesien ek heelwat Barend Jacobusse op my lys het!

Groete, Gert

2014-12-20 6:01 GMT+02:00 'CORRIE KRUGER' [email protected] [SAGenealogie] :

> Hendrik/Debbie > > Rolene se familie is as volg - > > Barry J STANDER gebore op Prieska in 1938 word 'n onderwyser op Carnarvon. > Hy > trou daar met Cora LIEBENBERG gebore op Carnarvon. Barry (54) is 13 > Februarie > 1993 in Bloemfontein oorlede op die gholfbaan van Schoemanspark > Bloemfontein.. Cora is op die stadium woonagtig in Pretoria. Cora was 'n > goeie netbalspeler. Hul een dogter Lizeth is met Steve ROETS getroud. > > Theresa STANDER is in middel 1960's op Carnarvon gebore. > > Hulle verhuis 1967 na Bloemfontein waar Barry aan die Hoerskool Rossenhof > verbonde was. Cora was bestuurder by een van die VOLKSKAS takke. Theresa in > 1984 aan die San du Plessis Hoerskool in Bloemfontein matrikuleer. Terwyl > sy > studeer aan die Universiteit van die Vrystaat ontmoet sy 'n mediese > student - > Hendrik Willem STRAUSS. Hulle is in September 1987 getroud. Dieselfde jaar > wat > hy sy MB ChB behaal het. > > Rolene is 22 April 1992 op Volksrust gebore. Rolene het 'n broer - Johann > wat > net 16 maande jonger as sy is. > > Ek hoop dit help! > > Groete > Corrie > > Debbie > > Baie dankie. Ek sien ek het effens deur 'n verkeerde oog gelees. In SAF is > slegs die lyn tot en met e-geslag, dus kan ek nie vir Theresa plaas nie. Ek > glo sy is in 1966 gebore as ek die regte persoon op die 1984 kieserslys > het. > > Groete > Hendrik LOUW

3a Re: Willem Jacobus Janse(n) Van Rensburg Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:10 am (PST) . Posted by: montxsuz

Hallo Debbie

Probeer gerus in die Janse van Rensburg Faceboek groep (as jy op FB is). Miskien weet iemand daar. https://www.facebook.com/groups/ClaasJansz/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/ClaasJansz/

Groete Christo van Rensburg

4 [Press] The Mercury /Daily News Friday 19 Dec 2014 CREDITORS..... Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:57 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:- "Expect the best, prepare for the worst ." -Muhammad Ali JINNAH (1876 -1946), lawyer politician and first leader of Pakistan.

CREDITORS/DEBTORS:-

DOUGLAS CHARLES TREVOR ID 460327 5109 08 7 + 30 Aug 2011 x Helen Ursula CROCKER ID 500121 0098 08 6 of 51 Laughton Ave , Durban North 4051. ESTATE No 16425/2011/DBN. ANTHONY WHATMORE & COMPANY INC 45 Adelaide Tambo Drive , Durban North 4051. DAILY NEWS.

DOVE Hazel Maureen ID 290916 0322 08 7 + 23 March 2014 of 235 Umdoni Village Pennington ESTATE No 20391/2014. P.J.R. BROWN 259 Ipahla Rd Amanzimtoti.

DE ROCHA Filipa Maria Carreiras ID 421220 0455 08 4 + 29 April 2014 of 52 Kenilworth Rd, Overport Durban 4001. ESTATE No 22448/2014/DBN . J E ALEXANDER P O Box 47592, Greyville Durban 4023. Email:-> [email protected] < TEL:- 031 3031401. BEREA MAIL 19 Dec 2014.

GIELINK Mervyn George ID 380821 5111 08 2 + 20 April 2014 of 2 Saunders Rd , Sydenham 4091 Unmarried .ESTATE No 27696/2014/DBN. MOHAMED KHAN & ASSOCIATES P O Box 70809 Overport 4067. DAILY NEWS.

GROBLER Jacobus Johannes ID 300724 5036 08 4 + 18 July 2014 of Minor 105, La Bri Retirement Village Newcastle. ESTATE No 26013/2014. FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 13527 Cascades, 3202.

KEPPLER Barry Royston ID 301224 5024 08 0 + 2 Nov 2014 x Beryl Eileen KEPPLER ID 340320 0024 08 4 of 118 Chase Valley Rd, Pietermaritzburg. ESTATE No 26313/2014. FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 13527 Cascades, 3202.

KUNENE Nomusa Ednah ID 531112 0783 08 5 + 25 Aug 2014 of 30 Cherry Rd, Wyebank 3610. ESTATE No 30605/2014/DBN. SUITE 201B Anchor House, 1 Aubrey Drive, Glenashley, Durban KZN. TEL:- 031 5722402.

MASSON Alain Jacques Louis Henry ID 470130 5147 08 3 + 26 Aug 2005 of Unit 78 Kings Lynn Share Block Ltd, 60 Diakonia Ave, Durban. ESTATE No 16200/2013/DBN. WARRICK DE WET ATTORNEYS 51 Musgrave Park, 18 Musgrave Rd, Email > [email protected] < TEL:- 031 201 8820. DAILY NEWS

MBATHA Elizabeth Lizzy ID 680608 0709 08 6 + 6 July 2006 of 303 Nhloswana Rd Edenvale. ESTATE No. 10507/2007/PMB. NGCOBO POYO & DIEDERICKS INC 190 Hoosen Haffejee Street , Pietermaritzburg.

MORGAN Gloria ID 270624 0016 08 9 + 27 Oct 2014 of Ramsgate Retirement Village , 1 North Drive Margate . ESTATE No 31136/2014/ DBN. FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 212 , Westville 3630.

NDLOVO Thembinkosi Joseph ID 710505 6045 08 1 Unmarried + 3 June 2014 of Parlock Newlands Durban . ESTATE No 25521/ 2014/DBN. RYAN MOORS -MOORS & DLAMINI ATTORNEYS 8 Berea Rd, Port Shepstone 4240.

PITCHFORD Pamela ID 210504 0038 18 9 + 24 May 2014 of 450 Bulwer Street, Riverside Home , Pietermaritzburg. ESTATE No 22171/ 2014 /PMB. LARSON FALCONER HASSAN PAREE INC 93 Richefond Circle , Ridgeside Office Park, Umhlanga Rocks 4319. TEL:- 031 5341634. DAILY NEWS

RAMPAL Lackpathie ID 331224 0053 08 8 + 10 Aug 2014 of 55 Londonberry Crescent Springfield Durban. ESTATE No 29827/2014/DBN. JACKSON & AMEEN ATTORNEYS 10th Floor Mercury House Office 1003, 320 Anton Lembede Street Durban 4001. DAILY NEWS.

STEPHEN Belinda Rose ID 690717 0128 08 6 +2 Oct 2014 of168 B Croton Rd, Wentworth. ESTATE No 26145/2014. CHAPMAN DYER INCORPORATED Dative 7th Floor 300 Anton Lembede Street, Durban.

STOFBERG Senga Joyce ID 610816 0089 08 7 + 5 Oct 2014 of 25 Walters Rd Hilton . ESTATE No 26261/2014. FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 13527 Cascades 3202.

STRACHAN Elizabeth Rhy ID 310522 0074 08 6 + 5 Aug 2014 of 3 Sandown Village, 27 Harvey Rd, Pinetown 3610. ESTATE No. 23842/2014. DEAN STRACHAN ATTORNEYS P O Box 11678 Dorpspruit 3206 TEL:- 033 342 3382 FAX:- 033 3423328.

VALA Dayal Chagan ID 321013 5175 08 3 + 27 June 2014 of Flat 2, 25 Leopold Street, Durban. ESTATE No29258/2014/DBN. PC VALA Unit 123 Laguna Ridge, 367 North Ridge Rd, Morningside 4001. DAILY NEWS

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BHOORA Nerubda ID 371106 0132 08 0 + none of 65 Glenardle Ave ,Sydenham 4091. ESTATE No 4565/2014/DBN. RAMATHE , DESAI, BHAGAT & JEENA CHARTED ACCOUNTANT Suite 104 Lupin House 101 Dr RD Naidu Drive Asherville. Email:- > [email protected] < TEL:- 031 2689800.

GLENISTER Cora ID 230909 0012 08 2 + 18 May 2014 Divorced of Outspan Retirement Centre , 24 Sarnia Rd, Durban KZN. ESTATE No 22747/2014. Dr FH VAN DER MERWE ATTORNEYS J A SMITH 29 Hamilton Street Harrismith 9880 .REF: Mr Smit TEL:- 058 6221001.

HENDERSON Laurence Peter ID 350421 5055 08 6 + 1 May 2012 of 15 5th Ave Malverne , Durban x Lorna Ann HENDERSON ID 391124 0114 08 7 .ESTATE No 1933/2013. CAPIOBUZZ LEGAL SERVICES 28 Lebotes Rd Tugela Mouth 0722 0040 45.

HURKENS Hanna Emilie Minna ID 240925 0055 18 4 + 4 March 2014 of Alexandra Park 9 Roger Place Scottburgh South KZN. ESTATE No 4314/2014. WEST AND ASSOCIATES P O Box 87183 Houghton 2041 Gauteng.

JAGROP Juri ID 500515 5146 08 1 + 6 April 2009 of 774 Sandhurst Drive Hibberdene . ESTATE No 14697/2009/DBN. BERKOWITZ COHEN WARTSKI RG WYNNE 17th Floor Southern Life House , 88 Joe Slovo St Dbn 4001.

MAJOZI Michael Siphiwe ID 390628 5140 08 8 + 27 May 2012 of Broadview Farm Camperdown KZN. ESTATE No 4993/2012. TENZA ATTORNEYS FOR REAR 225 Hoosen Haffejee Street Pietermaritzburg. Mr TENZA/nn/C2286. TEL:- 033 3454611 FAX:- 033 345 4396.

MARIE JOSEPH EDOUARD DE FLEURIOT DE LA COLINIERE ID 320427 5043 08 6 + 28 June 2013 of Eden Crescent, 23 Sol Harris Crescent , North Beach, Durban.ESTATE No 12066/13 . TINA-LOUISE MEGAN HALSTEAD for ANDREE GERALDINE MARTINE OWEN AND ANDRE MARIE FRANCE ROBERT c/o ATTORNEYS HALSTEAD PAOLA P O Box 22584 Glenashley 4022 TEL:- 031 5665810

MKHIZE Roland Cyril Mandlakayise ID 340101 7591 08 9 + 18 Sept 2009 of B74 KwaDabeka Street ,Clermont x Hendrietta Buthelezi MKHIZE ID 451015 0237 08 3. ESTATE No 15092/2009 FNB TRUST SERVICES PO Box 27511 Greenacres 6057

NKOLONGWANE Vuyelwa ID 280410 0189 08 6 + 13 Jan 2009 of Section B 1809 Ezakheni .ESTATE No 10887/2012. FNB TRUST SERVICES PO Box 27511 Greenacres 6057.

RANKIN Gwenfron Jean ID 270119 0001 08 2 + 19 Aug 2014 of Flame Lily Park , 565 Stella Rd Queensburgh Durban. ESTATE No 28746/2014/DBN. FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 212 , Westville 3630.

ROCKEY Norma Rose ID 400107 0053 08 1 + 16 July 2014 of 93A Ryder Drive , Mount Edgecombe KZN. ESTATE No 25067/2014. TATE NOLAN & KNIGHT P O Box 201181 Durban North 4016 TEL:- 031 5631874.

SALM Maureen Ada ID 210530 0117 08 7 + 2 Sep 2013 of 25 High Rd, Overport, Durban. ESTATE No 12898/2014. Mr ANDREW SALM PO Box 202100, Durban North 4016, Executor.

VAN GREUNEN Matthys Jacobus ID 360618 5028 08 2 + 31 May 2014 of 15 Botha Rd, Botha's Hill, Pinetown Durban. ESTATE No 25720/2014. FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 212 , Westville 3630.

WILLIAMS Thurl ID 370712 0052 08 6 + 16 Jan 2013 of 119 Eastview Rd Parkhill Durban. ESTATE No 4860 /2013 /DBN. M.A. SINGH & ASSOCIATES 103b Mathews Meyiwa Rd, Greyville Durban 4001. TEL:- 031 3091203.REF:-MS SINGH: RH:W5

ZULU Sizwile Margaret ID 361207 0198 08 9 + 17 March 2014 of Lot 871, Lindelani , Shakville Stanger. ESTATE No 22760/2014/DBN. FNB TRUST SERVICES PO Box 27511 Greenacres 6057 REF: Debra Allie. Gegroet uit Durban Rta Queb.

5 [Press] The Mercury /Daily News Fri 19 Dec 2014. Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:57 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:-" If mankind minus one were of one opinion, then mankind is no more justified in silencing the on than the one - if he had the power - would be justified in silencing mankind. " -John Stuart MILL.

BIRTHS:-

ENGAGEMENTS:- HARRADINE- VAN ONSELEN Bryce & Meg got engaged on 17 Dec 2014.

STEWART-MUNCER Dianne & Rodger announce the engagement of their daughter Lissa to Mark , son of Linda & Stephen.

DEATHS:- EBOLA DOCTOR:- WILLOUGHBY Dr Victor + 18 Dec 2014 .He was one of Sierra Leone's most senior physicians and the 11th Dr to die of Ebola. Sapa-AP

ABRAHAMS nee DE WEE Mary Magdalene of Wentworth . Mother, grand, great-grandmother, sister and aunt. Funeral at Christ the King Parish Wentworth on 20 Dec 2014 at 10am . Cremation private.

BANGAY Natalie Muriel 6 Dec 1921 -----9 Dec 2014 x + Ray BANGAY. Mother of Allan and Peter. Memorial at Pietermaritzburg Baptist Church Grosvernor Rd Pietermaritzburg on 10 Jan 2014 . Time to be advised. OAKLEIGH 033 3426116.

BILLING Cornelius & Angelique (Angie) BOOYSEN + 17 Dec 2014 . Died of knife wounds in Kildysart ,Country Clare Ireland. Parents of Pamela 4 years and Cornie 2years. Angie is daughter of Mrs VAN NIEKERK. (DAILY NEWS Reporter)

FYNN Terence William . Brother ,uncle and friend . Funeral at St Gabriel's Anglican Church Wentworth at 09h00 on 20 Dec 2014. Cremation private.

GUNAUREE SATYENDRA Kavalapathee (Dolly) x + Glen SATYENDRA. Mother of Lucky, Preetha and Arvind. Mother-in-law of Val, Krishen and Maheshani. Grandmother of Suvir, Bhavna, Rivaaj, Diyaksha, Alka and Tiya. Funeral on 19 Dec 2014 at residence 58 Umgudulu Rd Reservoir Hills from 13h00---15h00 proceeding to Clare Estate Crematorium from 18h00 ---17:30pm for cremation.

KNUDSEN Peter Arne Normann 19 Dec. 1955-----14 Dec 2014 .. Only son of Dorothy & + Arne B KNUDSEN . Brother of Caroline and Diane. Brother-in-law of Peter and Adrian. Uncle and great-uncle.; RIP my best friend and my father from Dianne and Julia KNUDSEN.

LUTCHMEE Marie 17 Dec 1923 ----16 Dec 2014 .Sister of Vincent and Neela. Mother of 3 sons ,1 daughter, son-in-law, daughters-in-law and 14 grandchildren. She was part of the movement during Apartheid in community of Merebank. Funeral on 19 Dec 2014 . Body will lie in state at 11 Alwar Rd Merebank from 12 -----13h00 proceeding to Presbyterian Church for Service at 13:30pm.

NORMAN MACKENZIE FURGUSON 1 Oct 1932 ----15 Dec 2014 x Jean. Father to Sue , Brett , Lynne , Rob and Mark. Grandfather. Memorial in the New Year.

PARTRIDGE Ann Margret 28 Oct 1936 ---15 Dec 2014 . Funeral at St Dominic's Catholoc Church Hillcrest on 22 Dec 2014 at 10am. OAKLEIGH 031 2059959.

SMITH Annie Dorothy of Wentworth. Funeral at New Apostolic Church Wentworth on 20 Dec 2014 at 10am Cremation private.

SYKES Roderic Derry (Rod) 16 Dec 1942 ---15 Dec 2014 . Brother of Deborah and Dave, Wayne and Anne, Bruce and Sharon, Lee and Reay.

TARLING John (ex Westville then Malta) + 9 Dec 2014 in The Manchester Hospital in England. Husband of Mignon. Father of Jackie and Grant and grandfather. John was a show man. Wil be remembered for his entertaining and Musical talents. RIP From Nicky & Basil ARMSTRONG.

THAWNARIAN Rejay (48) a policeman shot his Down syndrome son Kriaman, who could not walk and was 19 years old, before he killed himself at Widenham Beach on 18 Dec 2014. He , the policeman was married to Pamela GOVENDER . DAILY NEWS. Mphathi NXUMALO.

YON Dinah (Peggy) 24 Oct 1921 ----13 Dec 2014 . Mother, grand and great-grandmother. From Delia, Allan, David, Tinkey, Avril, Clive and family; Funeral at St Columba Church, corner North Coast Rd & Buxton Rd on 20 Dec 2014. Mass at 10am.

MEMORIAMS:-BARNES James & Gladys . Called to rest in Dec. Parents of the BARNES family.

ELGAR Michael Jon 3 Oct 1977 ----19 Dec 2004. Love from Mom and Shaye.

PAUL Mr E.V. Remembered by Mr & Mrs D.V PAUL and family.

STEYN Kenneth , Linda, Melissa. 40 year gone now. From Wally, Ingrid , Lillian and Corinne.

Gegroet uit Durban waar dit donderweer, blitse en reen dit effens afgekoel het. Rita Queb.

6a Re: Roetes van die ou transportryers Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:22 am (PST) . Posted by: "Nic van Helsdingen" jean.vanh

Op die plaas "Moorfield" tussen Newcastle en Memel is daar nog spore van die waens te sien. So 30 jaar terug het die destydse eienaar ons gevra om 'n opname van die inheemse orgidee op sy plaas te doen, en toe het hy ons daarvan vertel ... Dit was die ou posroete tussen Natal en die binneland. En ja, Botha's pas is tussen Newcastle en Memel, en "Moorfield" is amper bo-op die pas. 'n Pragtige plek, ryk aan inheemse plante, watervalle, Boesman tekeninge en fossiele.

Groete, Jean van Helsdingen Newcastle

6b Re: Roetes van die ou transportryers Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:48 am (PST) . Posted by: "Nic van Helsdingen" jean.vanh

Ek het nou vinnig op die internet gaan kyk, en ek sien dat Moorfield nou "Moorfield Mountain Farm Nature Reserve" is, en dit is onder nuwe bestuur. Koordinate27.52 533'S x 29.42 494'E

Dit is op die Muller's pas pad buite Newcastle.

Groete, Jean van Helsdingen Newcastle

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6882 Datum: Sat Dec 20, 2014 Daar is 10 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1a Rolene Strauss se herkoms? by "Fanie Buys" fbuys1968 2a Re: Roetes van die ou transportryers by "Chris Meyer" chrismeyer4219 2b Re: Roetes van die ou transportryers by "Charlie Els" charlieels 2c Boek: Stryd tussen Boer en Brit. by "Linda Bester" 3a TED Talk oor genealogie by "Charlie Els" charlieels 3b Re: [BP] TED Talk oor genealogie by "Charlie Els" charlieels 4 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 20 Desember 2014 by "Hester Marx" 5 Rolene Strauss se herkoms by "jacostrauss" jacostrauss 6a [Press] Independent on Saturday 20 Dec 2014 by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 6b Re: [Press] Independent on Saturday 20 Dec 2014 by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

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1a Rolene Strauss se herkoms? Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:22 am (PST) . Posted by: "Fanie Buys" fbuys1968

Middag Lyslede

As ek dan al die klassieke musiek radiostasie in Gauteng se oggendvasvra werk, kan ons dit uitdruk dat die vrae wat nou beantwoord moet word die volgende is:

Johann STRAUSS * 30 Aug 1935 was die seun van ..?

Elsie Sophia AVIS * 17 Oct 1935 was die dogter van ... ?

Die res is reeds beantwoord.

Groete Fanie Buys Posbus 2924 Sasolburg 0829296695 Vanne: Buys, de Buys, Coetzee

2a Re: Roetes van die ou transportryers Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:53 am (PST) . Posted by: "Chris Meyer" chrismeyer4219

BOEKE KENNERS - INLIGTING VERLANG:

Ja ek glo die mense is maar dun gesaai op SA Gen. die tyd van die jaar. Geniet julle vakansies en 'n Geseënde Kersgety word julle toegewens. Goed - Ek is besig om die boek " Die Stryd tussen Boer en Brit" te lees - geskryf deur C.R. De Wet. Dit is 'n oorspronklike weergawe geskryf in Hooghollands, gedruk in Nederland 1902.....(Ek dink die boek is baie waardevol) Ek sukkel so bietjie met die Hollandse termes, en doen graag navraag of die boek al in Afrikaans vertaal is ? Hy beskryf die oorlog in groot detail en die verskillende oorloë met die Engelse is insiggewend waarin hy as Generaal deelgeneem het.

Groete, Chris Meyer, Mosselbaai ....waar dit wemel van die vakansiegangers.

2b Re: Roetes van die ou transportryers Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:37 am (PST) . Posted by: "Charlie Els" charlieels

Middag Chris,

Ek weet nie of dit in Afrikaans beskikbaar is nie. Ek het die Engelse weergawe (Titel: “Strijd tusschen Boer en Brit. English” op Kindle afgelaai. Dit kos niks; dis „n vry boek op Kindle. Uitstekende boek.

Groete, CHARLIE

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 20 December 2014 04:46 PM To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] Re: Roetes van die ou transportryers

BOEKE KENNERS - INLIGTING VERLANG:

Ek sukkel so bietjie met die Hollandse termes, en doen graag navraag of die boek al in Afrikaans vertaal is ? Hy beskryf die oorlog in groot detail en die verskillende oorloë met die Engelse is insiggewend waarin hy as Generaal deelgeneem het.

Groete, Chris Meyer, Mosselbaai ....waar dit wemel van die vakansiegangers. Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (13) . Top ^ 2c Boek: Stryd tussen Boer en Brit. Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:30 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Linda Bester" Chris, daar is 'n boek in Afrikaans met bygewerkte inligting. Ons seun het die boek by my man gekry, maar hy is ongelukkig in die DRK, dus kan ek nie die skrywer vir jou gee nie.

Groete. Linda Bester.

3a TED Talk oor genealogie Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:47 am (PST) . Posted by: "Charlie Els" charlieels

Beste Lede (of altans dié wat nognie vakansie hou nie),

Ek luister altyd graag na TED Talks. Hier is een oor genealogie (nie als nuus vir ons nie maar nogtans): aj_jacobs_the_world_s_largest_family_reunion

Groete, CHARLIE

3b Re: [BP] TED Talk oor genealogie Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:52 am (PST) . Posted by: "Charlie Els" charlieels

Dit lyk my die skakel wat ek gestuur het, het uitmekaar geval. Hier's 'n beter een: http://tinyurl.com/mz62ak4

Groete weer, CHARLIE

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charlie Els via Sent: 20 December 2014 05:48 PM To: SaGenealogies; Buitenposten Subject: [BP] TED Talk oor genealogie

Beste Lede (of altans dié wat nognie vakansie hou nie),

Ek luister altyd graag na TED Talks. Hier is een oor genealogie (nie als nuus vir ons nie maar nogtans): aj_jacobs_the_world_s_largest_family_reunion

Groete, CHARLIE

4 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 20 Desember 2014 Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:16 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Hester Marx" Sterfgevalle

KRITZINGER, Rennie. 09/04/1933 † 15/12/2014. Kinders, kleinkinders. Hy was vir ons soos n appelboom tussen die wilde bome• (Hooglied 3:3) Dankdiens Saterdag 27 Desember 2014 10:00 Misgund NG Kerk. Privaat verassing. Navrae: 082 571 9262 (Die Burger O-Kaap 20/12/2014) Jannie Louwrence AVBOB Stellenbosch 021 887 3136

Hester Marx, Loerie

5 Rolene Strauss se herkoms Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:29 pm (PST) . Posted by: "jacostrauss" jacostrauss

Naand almal en baie dankie vir al die hulp wat ek ontvang het met my navraag. In baie gevalle ook van die lys af.

Dit verbly dan ook om nou te kan bevestig dat Prof Jannie STRAUSS van Kovsies en vriend van Prof Johann STRAUSS, die ontbrekende legkaartstukkies vir my gaan kry het.

Dr Johann STRAUSS se pa was Hendrik Willem STRAUSS sv Lodewyk Johannes STRAUSS (1878- 1955) sv Lodewyk Johannes STRAUSS (1848 - 1892)

Nou net om vir Jo-Ann STRAUSS geplaas te kry. Haar pa is Johan STRAUSS van Blackheath en oorspronklik Upington. Enige iemand enige idees?

Groete Jaco

6a [Press] Independent on Saturday 20 Dec 2014 Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:51 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:-"One of the most glorious messes in the world is the mess created in the living room on Christmas day. Don't clean it up too quickly." - Andy ROONEY.

BIRTHS:-ELLIS nee BLAIR Kentt & Kelly a boy Brook.

NEUMANN Carl & Bianca a girl Clara-Jo

PERKINS nee ORATOR Andrew & Romy a girl Sienna.

PERRIE Rory & Coraline a boy Cale Gordon.

WATERMEYER nee RALFE Richard & Beatrice Marie-France a girl Monica Francoise.

WHITE Richard & Carla a boy Jude Crookes.

ZEISS Trevor & Chantal - twins.

DEATHS:-DOMONEY Molly Helena. Funeral Service on 22 Dec 2014 at The Holy Family Parish Catholic Church Newlands East at 11am. Cremation private.

DON CAMERON + 18 Dec 2014. Father of Garth, Neil and Ann. Father-in-law to Dawn, Carol and Andrew. Grandfather and great-grandfather. Funeral at Holy Trinity Church Musgrave Rd on 22 Dec 2014 at 10am . OAKLEIGH .

GOVENDER Bobby (Lyavoo) . Missed by Lnks and Henry, Devi, Lally and Sally, spouses and grandchildren. 16th Day Memorial on 25 and 26 Dec 2014 at 299A McLarty Rd , Reservoir Hills.

MOUNTER Jack . From Mal, Pat and Lois.

PORRAS-YABAR nee SMALL , RYAN Hazel Margaret xVictor. Mother of Odette, Claudette, Baron ,Rowan, Ronel, Sabastian. Funeral at Saint Francis Xavier Catholic Church Bluff on 22 Dec 2014 at 10am. Proceeding to Stellawood Cemetery. DOVES 0860025500

RAMANNANAN Gopaul (Bala) x Maliga of Buffelsdale Tongaat (Flat 1101 Dr 26.). Father of 3girls Kobash, Sudash & Yoga. Father-in-law of Sivan and Julian and grandfather of Lushen, Saien, Westlyn, Sivanya. Funeral on 20 Dec 2014 from 10:30-----12:00pm Body will lie in state from 12 ----2pm. Cremation at Tongaat Crematorium at 2:45pm

STEEL Cecil 19 Aug 1930 ----16 Dec 2014. Father to Mark, Kurt and Melita. Will be missed in the Basketball Fraternity and Motor industry. AVBOB 031 2061831.

MEMORIAM:-BOOYSEN Jeffrey Allan Peter 25 Dec 2008. We will celebrate your Birthday from Claude, Winnie and the Boys.

DEANA BERTIE. From Bokkie, Dave, Kev, Dom and your grand daughter Gianna.

GOVENDER Vardarajalu + 19 Dec 1989. Missed by your Children.

ROSS Rosemary 12 Aug 1946 -----20 Dec 2012 . Wife ,mother and grandmother. From Malcolm , Kerry, Craig, Tiffany, Samantha, Jenny, Roland, Gary, James , Ethan and Aiden.

SOLIGRAM Patrick Raymond 22 July 1957 -----21 Dec 2013. Remembered by family.

Gegroet uit Durban warm aand en bewolk. Rita Queb.

6b Re: [Press] Independent on Saturday 20 Dec 2014 Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:18 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

Baie dankie Rita,

So waar !!! vir die wat hierdie voorreg het !!

Lekker dag uit `n reeds snikwarm Pretoria.

Groetnis. Annelie.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 21 December 2014 07:51 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] [Press] Independent on Saturday 20 Dec 2014

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:-"One of the most glorious messes in the world is the mess created in the living room on Christmas day. Don't clean it up too quickly." - Andy ROONEY.

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6883 Datum: Sun Dec 21, 2014 Daar is 12 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1a Nuwe SA Familie CD's vol 21 by "Fanie Buys" fbuys1968 1b Re: Nuwe SA Familie CD's vol 21 by "Johann Hanekom" johann.hanekom 1c Re: Nuwe SA Familie CD's vol 21 by "Francois Swart" fcsphotography 2 ERASMUS en VAN WYK kenners. by "Heinrich Mielmann" 3a Lutherse dope CPT by "anita slabbert" anita_slabbert 3b Re: Lutherse dope CPT by "Ferdie van Wyk" 3c Re: Lutherse dope CPT by "Ferdie van Wyk" 3d Re: Lutherse dope CPT by danielmalanjacobs 3e Re: Lutherse dope CPT by "anita slabbert" anita_slabbert 3f Re: Lutherse dope CPT by "Daniel Jacobs" danielmalanjacobs 4 [Press] Sunday Tribune 21 Dec 2014 by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 5 Re: Lutherse dope-George Rex, Rosina en Knysna by danielmalanjacobs

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1a Nuwe SA Familie CD's vol 21 Sun Dec 21, 2014 5:37 am (PST) . Posted by: "Fanie Buys" fbuys1968

Middag Lyslede

Ek het net voor die naweek die nuwe SAF CD‟s vol 21- 23 ontvang.

Nou lyk dit vir my as ek die leêr gebruik dan is die outydse short cut ctrl + V om iets te kopieër gedeaktiveer is. Dis seker goed en gaaf om te keer dat mens niks kopieër uit die SAF CD, maar nou werk dit ook nie in Rootsmagic nie.

Is dit hoe dit moet wees ?

Groete Fanie Buys Posbus 2924 Sasolburg 0829296695 Vanne: Buys, de Buys, Coetzee

1b Re: Nuwe SA Familie CD's vol 21 Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:33 am (PST) . Posted by: "Johann Hanekom" johann.hanekom

Hallo Fanie

Ctrl+C is kopieer, en Ctrl+V is plak – NADAT jy kopieer het :)

Johann Hanekom Lancaster UK http://www.hanekom.org.uk/gedview/individual.php?pid=I1967&ged=hanekom.ged

From: 'Fanie Buys' [email protected] [SAGenealogie] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 21 December 2014 13:35 To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Nuwe SA Familie CD's vol 21

Middag Lyslede

Ek het net voor die naweek die nuwe SAF CD‟s vol 21- 23 ontvang.

Nou lyk dit vir my as ek die leêr gebryuik dan is die outydse short cut ctrl + V om iets the kopieër gedeaktiveer is. Dis seker goed en gaaf om te keer dat mens niks kopieër uit die SAF CD, maar nou werk dit ook nie in Rootsmagic nie.

Is dit hoe dit moet wees ?

Groete Fanie Buys Posbus 2924 Sasolburg 0829296695 Vanne: Buys, de Buys, Coetzee

1c Re: Nuwe SA Familie CD's vol 21 Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:23 am (PST) . Posted by: "Francois Swart" fcsphotography

Ongelukkig is hierdie SAF-mense so behep met hulle sekuriteit, dat dit 'n mens eintlik naar maak. Ek doen 'n "screenprint" van die bladsye, maak dit dan oop in Acrobat (nie Acrobat Reader nie). Gebruik dan Acrobat om "text recognition" te doen, en voila, 'n pdf-dokument wat ek kan gebruik soos ek wil. Soveel vir hulle sogenaamde sekuriteit! Wens hulle wil groot word!

Francois Swart [email protected] Phone: 1 (858) 779-9267 Mobile: 1 (858) 842-7835 www.fcschwartz.com

2014-12-21 5:35 GMT-08:00 'Fanie Buys' [email protected] [SAGenealogie] < [email protected]>:

> Middag Lyslede > > Ek het net voor die naweek die nuwe SAF CDâ€™s vol 21- 23 ontvang. > > Nou lyk dit vir my as ek die leêr gebryuik dan is die outydse short cut > ctrl + V om iets the kopieër gedeaktiveer is. Dis seker goed en gaaf om te > keer dat mens niks kopieër uit die SAF CD, maar nou werk dit ook nie in > Rootsmagic nie. > > Is dit hoe dit moet wees ? > > Groete > Fanie Buys > Posbus 2924 > Sasolburg > 0829296695 > Vanne: Buys, de Buys, Coetzee

2 ERASMUS en VAN WYK kenners. Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:39 am (PST) . Posted by: "Heinrich Mielmann"

Naand Lede

Ek is op soek na datums, name ensv. hieronder asseblief om hierdie sy tak van moederskant in my stamboom te voltooi asseblief.

Jimmy Erasmus gebore 3 Maart 1922 + 17 Mei 2002, Bloemfontein

X 3 Julie 1947 geskei 1958 in Port Elizabeth

Maria Magdelena van Wyk Noemnaam Lily * 20 Nov 1928 + 16 April 2003, Pretoria

Kinders:

Annemarie Erasmus gebore *23 Junie 1950 (Dr.) Dorethea Susan Erasmus *6 Sept 1951 Reinet Erasmus Gebore *22 Jan 1957

Jimmy ERASMUS se ouers:- James Erasmus *?? + ca 1960, beg.Victoria Park Krematorium, Port Elizabeth X Ennie NN* ?? ca 1990, Victoria Park Krematorium, Port Elizabeth

Maria Magdelena van Wyk se ouers:- Pieter van Wyk (s.v Jakob van Wyk *? wie se ouers Pieter Willem Jacobus van Wyk* 22.6.1904 +ca 1976, begrawe Rustenburg X Anna Catharina Christina Opperman *ca 12/1913 +6.11.1943 Pretoria) X Annie NN *? + ca 1943

Ander Kinders:- Japie van Wyk *24 Junie 1934 XX Net bekend as "Baby", was woonagtig Standerton.

Met Dank Heinrich HJ Mielmann

3a Lutherse dope CPT Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:47 am (PST) . Posted by: "anita slabbert" anita_slabbert

Dag mense....is daar nog so paar mensies tuis???

Weet iemand dalk of mens erens behalwe by die Lutherse kerk self, toegang het to dope in kaapstad, Luthers, na 1833? asb?

Sal dit baie waardeer.

Groete vanuit Melbosstrand....lieflike dag gewees. Anita

3b Re: Lutherse dope CPT Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:50 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Ferdie van Wyk"

More Anita,

Ek het nie vir jou die antwoord nie maar Alex Fuchs en Colin Möhr is die kundiges op die gebied.

Hoop hulle reageer op jou navraag.

Groete, Ferdie

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 21 December 2014 09:48 PM To: SAG Subject: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

Dag mense....is daar nog so paar mensies tuis???

Weet iemand dalk of mens erens behalwe by die Lutherse kerk self, toegang het to dope in kaapstad, Luthers, na 1833? asb?

Sal dit baie waardeer.

Groete vanuit Melbosstrand....lieflike dag gewees. Anita

3c Re: Lutherse dope CPT Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:51 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Ferdie van Wyk"

More Anita,

Ek het nie vir jou die antwoord nie maar Alex Fuchs en Colin Möhr is die kundiges op die gebied.

Hoop hulle reageer op jou navraag.

Groete, Ferdie

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 21 December 2014 09:48 PM To: SAG Subject: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

Dag mense....is daar nog so paar mensies tuis???

Weet iemand dalk of mens erens behalwe by die Lutherse kerk self, toegang het to dope in kaapstad, Luthers, na 1833? asb?

Sal dit baie waardeer.

Groete vanuit Melbosstrand....lieflike dag gewees. Anita

3d Re: Lutherse dope CPT Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:02 am (PST) . Posted by: danielmalanjacobs

Beste Anita

Daardie oorspronlike registers is in die KAB.

Groete Daniel

Ns. My oorgrootjie Frederik Wilhelm Louw is in ca 1837 daar gedoop. Sy ma was 'n Ungerer. Alles dui daarop sy is die halfsuster van George Rex se tweede metgesel. Laasgenoemde dame (Rosina)was Rex se eerste metgesel. Sy was 'n slavin en het volgens alle aanduidings die dogter by my voorouer Johann Heinrich Ungerer gehad.

As ek hier waar ek op die hoek van Lang en Waterkantstraat sit my nek effens verrek kan ek die agterkant van die Kerk sien :)

From: "'Ferdie van Wyk' [email protected] [SAGenealogie]" Sender: [email protected] Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:51:44 To: Reply-To: [email protected] Cc: 'AC Fuchs'; <=?utf-8?Q?'m=C3=B6hr=40lantic.net'?=> Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

More Anita,

Ek het nie vir jou die antwoord nie maar Alex Fuchs en Colin Möhr is die kundiges op die gebied.

Hoop hulle reageer op jou navraag.

Groete, Ferdie From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 21 December 2014 09:48 PM To: SAG Subject: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

Dag mense....is daar nog so paar mensies tuis???

Weet iemand dalk of mens erens behalwe by die Lutherse kerk self, toegang het to dope in kaapstad, Luthers, na 1833? asb?

Sal dit baie waardeer.

Groete vanuit Melbosstrand....lieflike dag gewees. Anita

3e Re: Lutherse dope CPT Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:20 am (PST) . Posted by: "anita slabbert" anita_slabbert

Dankie almal wat geantwoord het, ek waardeer dit. Sal kyk in KAB

Groete Anita

2014-12-22 10:02 GMT+02:00 [email protected] [SAGenealogie] < [email protected]>:

> Beste Anita > > Daardie oorspronlike registers is in die KAB. > > Groete > Daniel > > Ns. My oorgrootjie Frederik Wilhelm Louw is in ca 1837 daar gedoop. Sy ma > was 'n Ungerer. Alles dui daarop sy is die halfsuster van George Rex se > tweede metgesel. Laasgenoemde dame (Rosina)was Rex se eerste metgesel. Sy > was 'n slavin en het volgens alle aanduidings die dogter by my voorouer > Johann Heinrich Ungerer gehad. > > As ek hier waar ek op die hoek van Lang en Waterkantstraat sit my nek > effens verrek kan ek die agterkant van die Kerk sien :)

> More Anita, > > Ek het nie vir jou die antwoord nie maar Alex Fuchs en Colin Möhr is die > kundiges op die gebied. > > Hoop hulle reageer op jou navraag. > > Groete, > Ferdie > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* 21 December 2014 09:48 PM > *To:* SAG > *Subject:* [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT > > Dag mense....is daar nog so paar mensies tuis??? > > Weet iemand dalk of mens erens behalwe by die Lutherse kerk self, toegang > het to dope in kaapstad, Luthers, na 1833? asb? > > Sal dit baie waardeer. > > Groete vanuit Melbosstrand....lieflike dag gewees. > Anita

3f Re: Lutherse dope CPT Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:21 am (PST) . Posted by: "Daniel Jacobs" danielmalanjacobs

Beste Anita

Ek sien nou jy het waarskynlik reeds toegang tot die Lutherse Kerk se rekords?

Daar is by die KAB egter ook as deel van die Lutherse Kerk se versameling rekords van bv. Stellenbosch se Lutherse Kerk.

OP my webtuiste by http://gendata.co.za/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=66 is ook 'n indeks op van die Lutherse dope.

Groete Daniel

Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na www.gendata.co.za

Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) Ungerer (Swellendam) Smith (Wellington) 2014-12-22 10:02 GMT+02:00 : > > Beste Anita > > Daardie oorspronlike registers is in die KAB. > > Groete > Daniel > > Ns. My oorgrootjie Frederik Wilhelm Louw is in ca 1837 daar gedoop. Sy ma > was 'n Ungerer. Alles dui daarop sy is die halfsuster van George Rex se > tweede metgesel. Laasgenoemde dame (Rosina)was Rex se eerste metgesel. Sy > was 'n slavin en het volgens alle aanduidings die dogter by my voorouer > Johann Heinrich Ungerer gehad. > > As ek hier waar ek op die hoek van Lang en Waterkantstraat sit my nek > effens verrek kan ek die agterkant van die Kerk sien :)

> *From: * "'Ferdie van Wyk' [email protected] [SAGenealogie]" < > [email protected]> > *Sender: * [email protected] > *Date: *Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:51:44 +0200 > *To: * > *ReplyTo: * [email protected] > *Cc: *'AC Fuchs'; <=?utf-8?Q?'m=C3=B6hr= > 40lantic.net'?=> > *Subject: *RE: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT > > More Anita, > > Ek het nie vir jou die antwoord nie maar Alex Fuchs en Colin Möhr is die > kundiges op die gebied. > > Hoop hulle reageer op jou navraag. > > Groete, > Ferdie > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* 21 December 2014 09:48 PM > *To:* SAG > *Subject:* [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT > > Dag mense....is daar nog so paar mensies tuis??? > > Weet iemand dalk of mens erens behalwe by die Lutherse kerk self, toegang > het to dope in kaapstad, Luthers, na 1833? asb? > > Sal dit baie waardeer. > > Groete vanuit Melbosstrand....lieflike dag gewees. > Anita

4 [Press] Sunday Tribune 21 Dec 2014 Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:10 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:- " A Christmas candle is a lovely thing, It makes no noise at all, But softly gives itself away." - Eva LOGUE.

Net twee berigte :-

BIRTHDAY:- HIGGS Alistair . You would have been 30 today. From Dad, Mumsy and Oliver.

DEATH:- NAIDOO Nithiananthan (Balan) x Sagree. Brother of Vee, Morgan, Danny, Salo and Tilly. Funeral: Body wil lie in state at Road 720, formerly Road 325, Unit 3B from 10:30---11:30am. Proceeding to Cornerstone Church, Rose Heights Rd Unit 6 and proceeding to Clare Estate Crematorium for cremation at 3pm.

Gegroet uit Durban waar dit bietjie gereen het. Rita Queb.

5 Re: Lutherse dope-George Rex, Rosina en Knysna Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:13 am (PST) . Posted by: danielmalanjacobs

Beste Vriende

Van George Rex en van Rosina en van Knysna gepraat.

My vriend Joos van der Merwe vra eendag vir my waar kry Knysna sy naam vandaan.

Ek weet nie en hy se:

Toe George en Rosina van die Kaap af so oor die laaste bult stap en Knysna se strandmeer le hier voor hulle uitgestrek se/vra Rosina vir George: "Nice Ne?"

Ek het die laaste klompie jaar baie in Knysna gekom vir my werk. In die gebied tussen die N2, Outenikwa Berge en die Homtini en Karatara-riviere. Dit is darem maar mooi daar.

Groete Daniel

From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 08:02:35 To: Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

Beste Anita

Daardie oorspronlike registers is in die KAB.

Groete Daniel

As ek hier waar ek op die hoek van Lang en Waterkantstraat sit my nek effens verrek kan ek die agterkant van die Kerk sien :)

More Anita,

Ek het nie vir jou die antwoord nie maar Alex Fuchs en Colin Möhr is die kundiges op die gebied.

Hoop hulle reageer op jou navraag.

Groete, Ferdie

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 21 December 2014 09:48 PM To: SAG Subject: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

Dag mense....is daar nog so paar mensies tuis???

Weet iemand dalk of mens erens behalwe by die Lutherse kerk self, toegang het to dope in kaapstad, Luthers, na 1833? asb?

Sal dit baie waardeer.

Groete vanuit Melbosstrand....lieflike dag gewees. Anita

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6884 Datum: Mon Dec 22, 2014 Daar is 15 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1 Strauss by "Gert Esterhuizen" jorgeestreux 2 Famous Men's description of the Boers by "Zena Wilson" zena.wilson 3 Rolene STRAUSS is geplaas, nou vir Jo-Ann... by "Jaco Strauss" jacostrauss 4a [PRESS] Beeld 22 Des.2014 by "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie 4b [PRESS] Beeld 22 Des.2014 by "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie 5 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 22 Desember 2014 by "Hester Marx" 6a Re: Lutherse dope CPT by "Colin Möhr" mohr.colin 6b Re: Lutherse dope CPT by "Colin Möhr" mohr.colin 6c Re: Lutherse dope CPT by danielmalanjacobs 6d Re: Lutherse dope CPT by "Colin Möhr" mohr.colin 6e Re: Lutherse dope CPT by "Colin Möhr" mohr.colin 6f Re: Lutherse dope CPT by "Ferdie van Wyk" 7a ERASMUS en VAN WYK kenners. by "Heinrich Mielmann" 8a BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000 8b Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE by "Carol Beneke" carolbeneke

Messages

1 Strauss Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:01 am (PST) . Posted by: "Gert Esterhuizen" jorgeestreux

Jaco,

Ek het op n manier alles verloor met die Legacy8..Ek probeer nou red.. ek kry nou egter niks oor Hendrik Willem Strauss nie (Pa van Prof Johann).. het jy enige datums, vrou, ens.. ASSEBLIEF!

Gert

2 Famous Men's description of the Boers Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:41 am (PST) . Posted by: "Zena Wilson" zena.wilson

FieldMarshal Bernard L. Montgomery (British Army officer and a major commander of the Allied forces during the Second World War) Give me 20 divisions American soldiers and I will breach Europe. Give me 15 consisting of Englishmen, and I will advanceto the borders of Berlin. Give me two divisions of those marvellous fighting Boers and I will remove Germany from the face of the earth.

American General, George Guts and GloryPatton The Americans fight for a free world, the English mostly for honour and glory and medals, the French and Canadians decide too late that they have to participate. The Italians are too scared to fight;the Russians have no choice. The Germans for the Fatherland. The Boers? Those sons of bitches fight for the hell of it.

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (author of SherlockHolmes) Take a community of Dutchmen of the typeof those who defended themselves for fifty years against all the power of Spainat a time when Spain was the greatest power in the world. Intermix with them astrain of those inflexible French Huguenots, who gave up their name and lefttheir country forever at the time of the revocation of the Edict of Nantes. Theproduct must obviously be one of the most rugged, virile, unconquerable racesever seen upon the face of the earth. Take these formidable peop le and trainthem for seven generations in constant warfare against savage men and ferociousbeasts, in circumstances in which no weakling could survive; place them so thatthey acquire skill with weapons and in horsemanship, give them a country whichis eminently suited to the tactics of the huntsman, the marksman and the rider.Then, finally, put a fine temper upon their military qualities by a dourfatalistic Old Testament religion and an ardent and consuming patriotism.Combine all these qualities and all these impulses in one individual and youhave the modern Boer- the most formidable antagonist who ever crossed the pathof Imperial Britain. Our military history has largely consisted in ourconflicts with France, but Napoleon and all his veterans have never treated usso roughly as these bard-bitten farmers with their ancient theology and their inconvenientlymodern rifles. Look at the map of South Africa, and there, in the very centreof the British possessions, like the stone in a peach, lies the great stretchof the two republics, a mighty domain for so small a people. How came theythere? Who are these Teutonic folk who have burrowed so deeply into Africa? Itis a twice-told tale, and yet it must be told once again if this story is tohave even the most superficial of introductions. No one can know or appreciatethe Boer who does not know his past, for he is what his past has made him

3 Rolene STRAUSS is geplaas, nou vir Jo-Ann... Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:45 am (PST) . Posted by: "Jaco Strauss" jacostrauss

Middag Sageners

Baie dankie vir al die hulp met die plasing van Rolene STRAUSS. Wat nou baie interessant sal wees is om vir Jo-Ann STRAUSS ook gekoppel te kry.

Al wat ek op hierdie stadium weet is dat haar pa 'n Johan STRAUSS is van Fernweg, Blackheath, voorstad van Bellville. Hy is getroud met Ingrid en het ook 'n seun Heinrich. Die enigste addisionele inligting wat ek het is dat haar pa oorspronklik van Upington af kom.

Is daar enigiemand met enige verdere inligting rondom die Upington STRAUSSe en hoe hierdie Johan STRAUSS by hulle inskakel?

Groete Jaco

4a [PRESS] Beeld 22 Des.2014 Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:42 am (PST) . Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie

STAPYLTON-ADKINS; Lettitia (79) + 17/12/2014. We will remember her with love, Dawn, John, Anton, Peter and Anna RAIMONDO, Tina and David and daughter Elma. (Beeld - 22/12/2014) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Oos, 012-460-3745.

Groete, Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.

[Blignaut x Laubscher; Els x Blignaut; Pretorius x Bloem; Kruger x Pretorius.] [Bouwer x Meyer; Bouwer x Wild; Pretorius x v/d Merwe; Pretorius x Potgieter; Potgieter x Barkhuizen]

4b [PRESS] Beeld 22 Des.2014 Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:52 am (PST) . Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie

Vervang vorige een netnou gestuur _____

FOURIE; {Kol} Mattheus Hermanus Wessels * 07/01/1939 + 17/12/2014. Dankdiens: NG Gemeente Pretoria-Oosterlig, Leastraat 469, Waterkloof Glen, Pretoria, 22/12/2014, 11:00. Private Verassing. (Beeld - 22/12/2014) Sonja Smith Begrafnisgroep, Pretoria, 012-654-9902 of 012-993-2807.

Groete, Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.

[Blignaut x Laubscher; Els x Blignaut; Pretorius x Bloem; Kruger x Pretorius.] [Bouwer x Meyer; Bouwer x Wild; Pretorius x v/d Merwe; Pretorius x Potgieter; Potgieter x Barkhuizen]

5 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 22 Desember 2014 Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:42 am (PST) . Posted by: "Hester Marx"

In Memoriam

PUREN, Hannes. Ek dink in weemoed op 22 Desember aan jou. Ek sal jou nooit vergeet nie. Met liefde, jou vriendin Ria. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 22/12/2014)

Hester Marx, Loerie [email protected]

6a Re: Lutherse dope CPT Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:46 am (PST) . Posted by: "Colin Möhr" mohr.colin Beste Ferdie,

Ek het al net na sy die navraag geplaas het maar my antwoord verskyn nog nie? Dit gebeur altyd met my boodskappe op SAG. Miskien moet myne eers deur 'n ekstra keuringsprosess gaan, wie weet?

Groete, Colin

From: 'Ferdie van Wyk' [email protected] [SAGenealogie] To: [email protected] Cc: 'AC Fuchs' ; [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 9:50 AM Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

More Anita,

Ek het nie vir jou die antwoord nie maar Alex Fuchs en Colin Möhr is die kundiges op die gebied.

Hoop hulle reageer op jou navraag.

Groete, Ferdie

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 21 December 2014 09:48 PM To: SAG Subject: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

Dag mense....is daar nog so paar mensies tuis???

Weet iemand dalk of mens erens behalwe by die Lutherse kerk self, toegang het to dope in kaapstad, Luthers, na 1833? asb?

Sal dit baie waardeer.

Groete vanuit Melbosstrand....lieflike dag gewees. Anita

6b Re: Lutherse dope CPT Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:46 am (PST) . Posted by: "Colin Möhr" mohr.colin

Hi Daniel,

Van watse registers praat jy van?

Groete, Colin

From: [email protected] [SAGenealogie] To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

Beste Anita

Daardie oorspronlike registers is in die KAB.

Groete Daniel

As ek hier waar ek op die hoek van Lang en Waterkantstraat sit my nek effens verrek kan ek die agterkant van die Kerk sien :)

From: "'Ferdie van Wyk' [email protected] [SAGenealogie]" Sender: [email protected] Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:51:44 +0200 To: ReplyTo: [email protected] Cc: 'AC Fuchs'; <=?utf-8?Q?'m=C3=B6hr=40lantic.net'?=> Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

More Anita,

Ek het nie vir jou die antwoord nie maar Alex Fuchs en Colin Möhr is die kundiges op die gebied.

Hoop hulle reageer op jou navraag.

Groete, Ferdie

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 21 December 2014 09:48 PM To: SAG Subject: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

Dag mense....is daar nog so paar mensies tuis???

Weet iemand dalk of mens erens behalwe by die Lutherse kerk self, toegang het to dope in kaapstad, Luthers, na 1833? asb?

Sal dit baie waardeer.

Groete vanuit Melbosstrand....lieflike dag gewees. Anita

6c Re: Lutherse dope CPT Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:57 am (PST) . Posted by: danielmalanjacobs Beste Colin

Die van die Lutherse Kerk.

Ek het hulle 'n hele klompie jare gelede daar geraadpleeg. Ek aamvaar hulle is nog steeds daar?

Groete Daniel

From: "Colin Möhr [email protected] [SAGenealogie]" Sender: [email protected] Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 10:11:55 To: Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

Hi Daniel,

Van watse registers praat jy van?

Groete, Colin

From: [email protected] [SAGenealogie] To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

Beste Anita

Daardie oorspronlike registers is in die KAB.

Groete Daniel

As ek hier waar ek op die hoek van Lang en Waterkantstraat sit my nek effens verrek kan ek die agterkant van die Kerk sien :)

More Anita,

Ek het nie vir jou die antwoord nie maar Alex Fuchs en Colin Möhr is die kundiges op die gebied.

Hoop hulle reageer op jou navraag.

Groete, Ferdie

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 21 December 2014 09:48 PM To: SAG Subject: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

Dag mense....is daar nog so paar mensies tuis???

Weet iemand dalk of mens erens behalwe by die Lutherse kerk self, toegang het to dope in kaapstad, Luthers, na 1833? asb?

Sal dit baie waardeer.

Groete vanuit Melbosstrand....lieflike dag gewees. Anita

6d Re: Lutherse dope CPT Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:32 am (PST) . Posted by: "Colin Möhr" mohr.colin

Hallo Anita,

Watse vanne stel jy in belang?

Groete, Colin

From: anita slabbert [email protected] [SAGenealogie] To: SAG Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 9:47 PM Subject: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

Dag mense....is daar nog so paar mensies tuis???

Weet iemand dalk of mens erens behalwe by die Lutherse kerk self, toegang het to dope in kaapstad, Luthers, na 1833? asb? Sal dit baie waardeer.

Groete vanuit Melbosstrand....lieflike dag gewees. Anita

6e Re: Lutherse dope CPT Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:51 am (PST) . Posted by: "Colin Möhr" mohr.colin

Hi Daniel, Ek neem aan dit is die van die Strandstraat se kerk. Moontlik is alles nou onttrek om dan deel te word van die poging geloots deur die groep wat die argiewe daar nou organiseer "Outsiders Within". http://www.outsiderswithin.co.za/

Groete, Colin

From: [email protected] [SAGenealogie] To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

Beste Colin

Die van die Lutherse Kerk.

Ek het hulle 'n hele klompie jare gelede daar geraadpleeg. Ek aamvaar hulle is nog steeds daar?

Groete Daniel

From: "Colin Möhr [email protected] [SAGenealogie]" Sender: [email protected] Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 10:11:55 +0200 To: ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

Hi Daniel,

Van watse registers praat jy van?

Groete, Colin

From: [email protected] [SAGenealogie] To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

Beste Anita

Daardie oorspronlike registers is in die KAB.

Groete Daniel

As ek hier waar ek op die hoek van Lang en Waterkantstraat sit my nek effens verrek kan ek die agterkant van die Kerk sien :)

More Anita,

Ek het nie vir jou die antwoord nie maar Alex Fuchs en Colin Möhr is die kundiges op die gebied.

Hoop hulle reageer op jou navraag.

Groete, Ferdie

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 21 December 2014 09:48 PM To: SAG Subject: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

Dag mense....is daar nog so paar mensies tuis???

Weet iemand dalk of mens erens behalwe by die Lutherse kerk self, toegang het to dope in kaapstad, Luthers, na 1833? asb?

Sal dit baie waardeer.

Groete vanuit Melbosstrand....lieflike dag gewees. Anita

6f Re: Lutherse dope CPT Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:54 am (PST) . Posted by: "Ferdie van Wyk"

Naand Colin,

Twee dinge asb. Het jou e-pos „n aanhangsel, indien wel kan dit gebeur dat dit nie deurgaan nie. Die tweede ding is vreemd. Ek sien jy het al vanoggend ongeveer 11:00 vir Daniel gevra . Dit wys eers 6:47 PM in SAG. Daniel het jou „n paar minute later geantwoord. Ek sien jou antwoord op Anita se e-pos het nou net deur gekom. Iewers is iets fout. Miskien moet jy van die SAG unsubscribe en „n dag later weet subscribe. Bespreek dit dalk ook met Dennis Pretorius. Sy nommer is 083-679-8541. Hy is die lyseienaar.

Groete, Ferdie

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 22 December 2014 09:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

Beste Ferdie,

Ek het al net na sy die navraag geplaas het maar my antwoord verskyn nog nie? Dit gebeur altyd met my boodskappe op SAG. Miskien moet myne eers deur 'n ekstra keuringsprosess gaan, wie weet?

Groete, Colin

From: 'Ferdie van Wyk' [email protected] [SAGenealogie] To: [email protected] Cc: 'AC Fuchs' ; [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 9:50 AM Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

More Anita,

Ek het nie vir jou die antwoord nie maar Alex Fuchs en Colin Möhr is die kundiges op die gebied.

Hoop hulle reageer op jou navraag.

Groete, Ferdie

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 21 December 2014 09:48 PM To: SAG Subject: [SA-Gen] Lutherse dope CPT

Dag mense....is daar nog so paar mensies tuis???

Weet iemand dalk of mens erens behalwe by die Lutherse kerk self, toegang het to dope in kaapstad, Luthers, na 1833? asb?

Sal dit baie waardeer.

Groete vanuit Melbosstrand....lieflike dag gewees. Anita

7a ERASMUS en VAN WYK kenners. Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:33 am (PST) . Posted by: "Heinrich Mielmann"

Naand Lede

Vir my navraag hieronder was daar destyds 'n Ds Erasmus wat 'n forum bestuur het soos SA-Gen. Ek weet hy was 'n Erasmus navorser, het iemand dalk sy epos adres asb?

Dankie Heinrich

Naand Lede

Ek is op soek na datums, name ensv. hieronder asseblief om hierdie sy tak van moederskant in my stamboom te voltooi asseblief. Jimmy Erasmus gebore 3 Maart 1922 + 17 Mei 2002, Bloemfontein X 3 Julie 1947 geskei 1958 in Port Elizabeth Maria Magdelena van Wyk Noemnaam Lily * 20 Nov 1928 + 16 April 2003, Pretoria

Kinders: Annemarie Erasmus gebore *23 Junie 1950 (Dr.) Dorethea Susan Erasmus *6 Sept 1951 Reinet Erasmus Gebore *22 Jan 1957

Jimmy ERASMUS se ouers:- James Erasmus *?? + ca 1960, beg.Victoria Park Krematorium, Port Elizabeth X Ennie NN* ?? ca 1990, Victoria Park Krematorium, Port Elizabeth Maria Magdelena van Wyk se ouers:- Pieter van Wyk (s.v Jakob van Wyk *? wie se ouers Pieter Willem Jacobus van Wyk* 22.6.1904 +ca 1976, begrawe Rustenburg X Anna Catharina Christina Opperman *ca 12/1913 +6.11.1943 Pretoria) X Annie NN *? + ca 1943 Ander Kinders:- Japie van Wyk *24 Junie 1934 XX Net bekend as "Baby", was woonagtig Standerton.

Met Dank Heinrich HJ Mielmann

8a BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:37 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

Goeiedag Mede (tuisbly) Lede,

Ek is van plan om deur die Bloemfontein-Noord NG Kerk huwelike te werk.

1919-1935 - 809 FOTOS 1935-1946 - 907 FOTOS

Enige versoeke vir vanne ??

Groetnis. Annelie.

8b Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:36 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Carol Beneke" carolbeneke

Hello Annelie,

Die gewone – Beneke, Benecke en van/von Benecke asb.

Groete, Carol

From: mailto:[email protected] Sent: 23 December, 2014 7:37 AM To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE

Goeiedag Mede (tuisbly) Lede,

Ek is van plan om deur die Bloemfontein-Noord NG Kerk huwelike te werk.

1919-1935 – 809 FOTOS 1935-1946 – 907 FOTOS

Enige versoeke vir vanne ??

Groetnis. Annelie.

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6885 Datum: Mon Dec 22,2014 Daar is 5 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1a Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE by 1b Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE by "Amanda Stander" astanderliebenb 1c Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE by "Charlie Els" charlieels 2 government gazette by "anita slabbert" anita_slabbert 3 Re Strauss by "Jaco Strauss" jacostrauss

Messages

1a Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:02 pm (PST) . Posted by:

Hallo Annelie,

Enige Haman, Hamann, Hamman en Hammann of Homan sal welkom wees. Daar behoort nie veel te wees nie. Dankie byvoorbaat vir jou vriendelike aanbod.

Daan Hamman

From: "'Annelie Els' [email protected] [SAGenealogie]" Sender: [email protected] Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 07:37:03 To: SAGenealogie Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE

Goeiedag Mede (tuisbly) Lede,

Ek is van plan om deur die Bloemfontein-Noord NG Kerk huwelike te werk.

1919-1935 - 809 FOTOS 1935-1946 - 907 FOTOS

Enige versoeke vir vanne ??

Groetnis. Annelie.

1b Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:36 am (PST) . Posted by: "Amanda Stander" astanderliebenb

Hallo Annelie,

Sal Vanne: STANDER en PIENAAR, LIEBENBERG waardeer, Baie dankie

Groete Amanda STANDER

1c Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:17 am (PST) . Posted by: "Charlie Els" charlieels

Middag Annelie,

Ja, ons sê vir almal: "We're going to Remainhere" (dan dink hulle ons sê "Romania")!

Ek stel altyd belang in Els-inligting, as jy daar raakloop.

Dankie en groete, CHARLIE

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 23 December 2014 07:37 AM To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE

Goeiedag Mede (tuisbly) Lede,

Ek is van plan om deur die Bloemfontein-Noord NG Kerk huwelike te werk.

1919-1935 – 809 FOTOS 1935-1946 – 907 FOTOS

Enige versoeke vir vanne ??

Groetnis. Annelie.

2 government gazette Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:26 am (PST) . Posted by: "anita slabbert" anita_slabbert

Dag mense

Is daar iemand wat toegang het tot die 1915 Government Gazette 17 sept 1915, nr 681. Ek soek 'n boedel nr daar asb. Dis nie op NAAIRS nie.

Ek sal dit waardeer. Kontak my gerus van lys af [email protected]

3 Re Strauss Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:01 am (PST) . Posted by: "Jaco Strauss" jacostrauss

Môre Gert

Dis darem jammer om te hoor. Ek het ook opgradeer van 7.5 na 8.0 toe, maar het sommer 7.5 op my ou rekenaar gelos net vir ingeval daar probleme is, maar daar was darem nog nie. Jy het darem seker gereeld rugsteun kopieë van jou Databasis gemaak? Dan hoef jy darem net ma 'n vorige weergawe terug te gaan, of hoe?

In ieder geval, Prof Johann STRAUSS se ouers is:

Hendrik Willem STRAUSS (1 Aug 1903 - 5 Des 1980) X Francina Petronella MARAIS (13 Mei 1904 - 31 Aug 1985)

Die inligting is verskaf deur Rolene se ma, Theresa.

Groete Jaco

Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:01 am (PST) . Posted by:"Gert Esterhuizen" jorgeestreux

Jaco,

Ek het op n manier alles verloor met die Legacy8..Ek probeer nou red.. ek kry nou egter niks oor Hendrik Willem Strauss nie (Pa van Prof Johann).. het jy enige datums, vrou, ens.. ASSEBLIEF!

Gert

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6886 Datum: Tue Dec 23, 2014 Daar is 15 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1a Re: Re Strauss by jorgeestreux 2a Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE by "C van Gass" 2b Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE by "Johan Vermeulen" vermeulenjpsa 2c Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE by "Gustav & René Pansegrouw" 2d Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE by "Willieta" alwiette 2e Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE by "Jos le Roux (Huis)" jos_leroux 2f Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE by "Dora Opperman" 2g Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE by "Richard" 3a Re: Boek: Stryd tussen Boer en Brit. by "Chris Meyer" chrismeyer4219 4a HARRISMITH MARRIAGES 1891-1929 by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000 4b Re: HARRISMITH MARRIAGES 1891-1929 by "Bobbie Crowther" bobsepos 5 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 23 Desember 2014 by "Hester Marx" 6 BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD HUWELIKE by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000 7 [Press] The Mercury Tues 23 Dec 2014 CREDITORS..... by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 8 [Press ] The Mercury Tuesday 23 Dec 2014 by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Messages

1a Re: Re Strauss Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:06 am (PST) . Posted by: jorgeestreux

Baie dankie Jaco! Ek het ongelukkig nie n backup gedoen sedert 24 nov nie..maar darem nie te erg nie..net n groot skok!!

Gert

From: Jaco Strauss Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 11:01:51 To: sagenealogie Cc: Gert Esterhuizen Subject: Re Strauss

Môre Gert

Dis darem jammer om te hoor. Ek het ook opgradeer van 7.5 na 8.0 toe, maar het sommer 7.5 op my ou rekenaar gelos net vir ingeal daar probleme is, maar daar was darem nog nie. Jy het darem seker gereeld rugsteun kopieë van jou Databasis gemaak? Dan hoef jy darem net ma 'n vorige weergawe terug te gaan, of hoe?

In ieder geval, Prof Johann STRAUSS se ouers is:

Hendrik Willem STRAUSS (1 Aug 1903 - 5 Des 1980) X Francina Petronella MARAIS (13 Mei 1904 - 31 Aug 1985) Die inligting is verskaf deur Rolene se ma, Theresa.

Groete Jaco

Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:01 am (PST) . Posted by:"Gert Esterhuizen" jorgeestreux

Jaco,

Ek het op n manier alles verloor met die Legacy8..Ek probeer nou red.. ek kry nou egter niks oor Hendrik Willem Strauss nie (Pa van Prof Johann).. het jy enige datums, vrou, ens.. ASSEBLIEF!

Gert

2a Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:30 am (PST) . Posted by: "C van Gass"

Annelie,

As jy enige VAN GASS of VAN GAS raakloop sal ek baie graag die inligting ontvang.

C (Bok) van Gass.

From: mailto:[email protected] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 7:37 AM To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE

Goeiedag Mede (tuisbly) Lede,

Ek is van plan om deur die Bloemfontein-Noord NG Kerk huwelike te werk.

1919-1935 - 809 FOTOS 1935-1946 - 907 FOTOS

Enige versoeke vir vanne ??

Groetnis. Annelie.

2b Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:15 am (PST) . Posted by: "Johan Vermeulen" vermeulenjpsa

Middag Annelie,

Enige VERMEULEN of MOORE huwelike asb. Groete Johan

2c Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:31 am (PST) . Posted by: "Gustav & René Pansegrouw"

Hallo Annelie

Ek sou baie graag KITSHOFF en PANSEGRA/OUW wou ontvang. My DAVIS kan dalk iets oplewer.

Hartlik dank vir jou bereidwilligheid.

Groetnis. René

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 23 December 2014 07:37 To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE

Goeiedag Mede (tuisbly) Lede,

Ek is van plan om deur die Bloemfontein-Noord NG Kerk huwelike te werk.

1919-1935 – 809 FOTOS 1935-1946 – 907 FOTOS

Enige versoeke vir vanne ??

Groetnis. Annelie.

2d Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:45 am (PST) . Posted by: "Willieta" alwiette

Goeiemiddag Annelie,

Baie dankie vir jou aanbod. Ek sou graag DE SWARDT huwelike wil ontvang.

Groete uit Jan-Tuisbly se karretjie,

Willieta

2e Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:35 am (PST) . Posted by: "Jos le Roux (Huis)" jos_leroux Hallo Annelie

Enige KRYNAUW's sal my baie bly maak. Ek glo nie daar sal baie wees nie,

Dankie vir die aanbod.

Vriendelike groete Jos le Roux

2f Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:52 am (PST) . Posted by: "Dora Opperman"

Hallo Annelie,

Oppermans ASB groete

2014-12-23 7:37 GMT+02:00 'Annelie Els' [email protected] [SAGenealogie] :

> Goeiedag Mede (tuisbly) Lede,

> Ek is van plan om deur die Bloemfontein-Noord NG Kerk huwelike te werk. > > 1919-1935 - 809 FOTOS > 1935-1946 - 907 FOTOS > > Enige versoeke vir vanne ?? > > Groetnis. > Annelie.

Dora Opperman-Gericke 111 Fairhaven Aftree-oord Woodhead Rylaan, Humewood Port Elizabeth 6001 Cell: 0828768371 [email protected]

2g Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:23 am (PST) . Posted by: "Richard"

Goeie dag Annelie

Ek soek Wolfaardt (enige spelling).

Groete Richard From: mailto:[email protected] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 7:37 AM To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE

Goeiedag Mede (tuisbly) Lede,

Ek is van plan om deur die Bloemfontein-Noord NG Kerk huwelike te werk.

1919-1935 - 809 FOTOS 1935-1946 - 907 FOTOS

Enige versoeke vir vanne ??

Groetnis. Annelie.

3a Re: Boek: Stryd tussen Boer en Brit. Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:45 am (PST) . Posted by: "Chris Meyer" chrismeyer4219

Goeie middag almal, en dankie vir die terugvoering oor my navraag. Jammer Charlie ek op jou storie beland het, en ook dankie vir jou antwoord.

Dankie Linda. Ja ek het vermoed dat die boek reeds al oorvertaal is. Ek lees maar so tussen die Hoog Hollandse reels deur, en kan darem verstaan wat hy skryf. Ja die stories oor die verskeie veldslae en die volledige beskrywing daarvan is baie insiggewend.

Ook Willieta...dankie. Nou weet ek tenminste hy bestaan wel in Afrikaans. Die vertalers was seker die uitgewers ook (J.J.Human)

Groete almal en geniet die rustydperk met Kerfees en Nuwe Jaar om die draai.

Chris Meyer, Mosselbaai.

4a HARRISMITH MARRIAGES 1891-1929 Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:56 am (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

Hallo Mede (tuisbly) Lyslede,

Ek was besig met Harrismith se huwelike en het julle versoeke ingedagte gehou. Indien julle dit nog nie gedoen het nie.

South Africa, Free State Dutch Reformed Church Records, 1848-1956 > Free State > Harrismith > Marriages 1891-1929 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/DGS-004763133_00001?cc=1910846 &wc=SS3H-JWG:183083201,183141001,183141002 beer; 533.-Image number. beer; 567.-Image number. beer; 609.-Image number. beer; 705.-Image number. beer; 715.-Image number. beer; 844.-Image number. beer; 850.-Image number. beneke; 107.-Image number. bene; 167.-Image number. bene; 238.-Image number. bene; 49.-Image number. bene; 578.-Image number. bene; 88.-Image number. coertzen; 560.-Image number. dreyer; 123.-Image number. drey; 284.-Image number. drey; 332.-Image number. drey; 41.-Image number. drey; 436.-Image number. drey; 582.-Image number. drey; 693.-Image number. drey; 751.-Image number. drey; 840.-Image number. drey; 97.-Image number. greuning; 403.-Image number. human; 495.-Image number. lieb; kock; le grange; 856.-Image number. lieben; nel; 805.-Image number. liebenberg; 592.-Image number. pansegrouw; 12.-Image number. pans; 409.-Image number. pans; 472.-Image number. pelser; 737.-Image number. pelser; 437.-Image number. pelser; 507.-Image number. pelser; 694.-Image number. vermeulen; 333.-Image number.

Groetnis. Annelie.

4b Re: HARRISMITH MARRIAGES 1891-1929 Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:37 am (PST) . Posted by: "Bobbie Crowther" bobsepos

Annelie, sal jy vir my oog uithou vir LOURENS en CROWTHER?

Baie dankie! Bobbie

> On 23 Des 2014, at 14:57, 'Annelie Els' [email protected] [SAGenealogie] wrote: > > Hallo Mede (tuisbly) Lyslede, > > Ek was besig met Harrismith se huwelike en het julle versoeke ingedagte gehou. Indien julle dit nog nie gedoen het nie. > > South Africa, Free State Dutch Reformed Church Records, 1848-1956 > Free State > Harrismith > Marriages 1891-1929 > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/DGS-004763133_00001?cc=1910846&wc=SS3H- JWG:183083201,183141001,183141002 > > beer; 533.-Image number. > beer; 567.-Image number. > beer; 609.-Image number. > beer; 705.-Image number. > beer; 715.-Image number. > beer; 844.-Image number. > beer; 850.-Image number. > > beneke; 107.-Image number. > > bene; 167.-Image number. > bene; 238.-Image number. > bene; 49.-Image number. > bene; 578.-Image number. > bene; 88.-Image number. > > coertzen; 560.-Image number. > > dreyer; 123.-Image number. > > drey; 284.-Image number. > drey; 332.-Image number. > drey; 41.-Image number. > drey; 436.-Image number. > drey; 582.-Image number. > drey; 693.-Image number. > drey; 751.-Image number. > drey; 840.-Image number. > drey; 97.-Image number. > > greuning; 403.-Image number. > > human; 495.-Image number. > lieb; kock; le grange; 856.-Image number. > > lieben; nel; 805.-Image number. > > liebenberg; 592.-Image number. > > pansegrouw; 12.-Image number. > > pans; 409.-Image number. > pans; 472.-Image number. > > pelser; 737.-Image number. > pelser; 437.-Image number. > pelser; 507.-Image number. > pelser; 694.-Image number. > > vermeulen; 333.-Image number. > > Groetnis. > Annelie.

5 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 23 Desember 2014 Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:36 am (PST) . Posted by: "Hester Marx"

Sterfgevalle

SWANEPOEL (née OOSTHUYSEN), Gladys Christiana. 60 jaar. +Woensdag 17 Desember 2014 in Port Elizabeth. Liefdevolle moeder en suster. Begrafnis Saterdag 27 Desember 2014 11:00 NG Sherwood Gemeente. (Die Burger O-Kaap 23/12/2014) Heila, First Avenue Funeral Home 041 581 5028

Hester Marx, Loerie [email protected]

6 BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD HUWELIKE Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:01 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

Goeiedag Mede (Tuisbly) Lede,

Ek is deur `n 'very kind soul' (sonder ENIGE sarkasme van my af) verwittig dat die Bloemfontein data reeds in die 'SEARCH'; van die LDS is.

Het `n steekproef gedoen......

Kon nie een van my VAN DEN HEEVERs, LIEBENBERGs of ELS`e Huwelike kry nie, maar dis nou nie tersake nie.

Wat ek wil weet is:-

Is dit makliker om met my lys te werk of deur die 'SEARCH' van die LDS ?? Groetnis. Annelie.

7 [Press] The Mercury Tues 23 Dec 2014 CREDITORS..... Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:14 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

CREDITORS/DEBTORS:-

MORRISSEY Barry Connell ID 510210 5077 08 4 + 3 June 2014 of 6 Village Green Dunbar Rd, Westville Durban 4001. ESTATE No 23092/2014. THE WEALTH CORPORATION P O Box 243, Durban 4000. Email > [email protected] < .TEL:_ 031 5607161.

Gegroet uit Durban Rita Queb.

8 [Press ] The Mercury Tuesday 23 Dec 2014 Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:14 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:-“Humour is always based on a modicum of truth. Have you ever heard a joke about a father-in-law?” –Dick CLARK.

“ I would like to paint the way a bird sings.”- French impressionist painter Claude MONET. (1840 ---1926).

DEATH:- GERMANY:- JÜRGENS Udo. I believe he died 22 Dec 2014.He was outside on walking. “Slager “ singer.

BERLIN:- SDUNEK Fritz + 22 Dec 2014 in Hamburg following a stroke at age 67. He was former coach of heavyweight world champion Wladimir and Vitali KLITSHLO. Sapa-dpa.

ENGLAND:- COCKER John Robert “Joe” * 20 May 1944 in Sheffield ----+ Dec 2014 at age 70. He was a Blues icon. He released 40 albums. “Legengary soul and rock singer died of lung cancer.

KUALA LUMPUR:- KHONTHOKHONBARI Duangchit at age33. A Thai woman was senerced to death yesterday after being found guilty of trafficking drugs at Kuala Lumpur Airport in March last year. Sapa-AFP.

BROWN Gordon Desmond (Skeeter) 1 June 1925 ----20 Dec 2014 x Sylvia. Father of Derek & Thea, Colin & Debbie, Pam & Piet. Grandfather of 7 and great-grandfather of 8. Celebration of his life at Parkhill Bowling Club on 23 Dec 2013 at 3pm.

BURGER LONGHURST SHIRLEY . Friend of 44 years .From Jose, Estelle Jean-Marc, Tessa, Charl, Pippa, Pierre and Tostee.

DREYER Maureen Lynn 19 July 1947 ----20 Dec 2014 x Johan. Mother of Jon, Ron and Lou. Grandmother of Robyn, Chris, Aimee, Nicki, Craig and Tim. Funeral at Scottsville Baptist Church Pietermaritzburg on 30 Dec 2014 at 11:30am. OAKLEIGH 033 3426116.

KIRKBRIDGE Gavin James + 17 Dec 2014 .Husband and father of Debbie, Dylan and Emma.Sympathy to family from all at Frame Knitting Manufacturs. He was a friend and colleague. MARTIN‟S Pinetown 031 7092142.

MOLLETT Mike + 21 Dec 2014. Husband, father and grandfather . Re-united, on the bus with mom.

MOUNTER Jack x + Shirley. Step-dad to Sharon and Aldine. Grand-dad to the girls.

NABBI Hazel 18 Sept 1952 -----21 Dec 2014 . Sister and sister-in-law of Margie, Molly, Julie, Alec and Etta. Sister-in-law of June, Adelaide and Lall and aunt. Funeral at Clare Estate Crematorium on 24 Dec 2014 at 10am.

NAIDOO Vasie x Pauline . Father of Leo and grandfather of Jenay-Lee, Gino, Reshay. Brother of Pushpie and brother . Funeral at 14A Delta Rd Isipingo Beach from 11---12 pm on 24 Dec 2014. Proceeding to Church of The Good Shepard Toti from 12:30 –2:30pm. Supper at Isipingo Beach from 4pm . Private Cremation. TEL:- Lee 078 5760510.

PERKINS nee BELL Mary 15 Feb 1913 ---8 Dec 2014 in Sorsar, Scotland x + John PERKINS . Mother of Phil , John, Leon, Maureen and family. Grand and great-grandmother.

ROBINSON (MONDA) Joan Erica 28 Jan 1931 ---20 Dec 2014 . Mother of Graham, David and Rex. Mother-in-law to Dorte and Denise and grandmother to Kyle, Chelsea, Callum and Rhysie. DOVES 0860025500.

VAN HEERDEN Phillip Vivian + 21 Dec 2014 . Son of Brigitte and brother of Charles. Requiem Mass at St Cyprians Anglican Church on 24 Dec 2014 at 11am. Cremation private. SHANLEY‟S 031 2057644.

MEMORIAM:-BOOYSEN Jeffrey Allan Peter 5 Dec 2008 x Charmaine , children and grandchildren.

GAILLIARD Darren Kurt Joseph 3 Nov 1987 ---23 Dec 2007 tragically. Son,grandson, brother and uncle From Mum, Dad, Reese, Jodi-Leigh, Quentin, Darren Jnr & Summer. : Gran Dulcie , Bridger, Dunn & George families.

NAIDOO Nita x Gona. Mother of Renira ,Yakshini & Neshchalin. Sons-in-law and grandchildren.

SANZULLO Ingeborg + 21 Dec 2010 . Wife of Ciro, mother and grandmother. With Martin & Kim + 22 Dec 1994 (Son and brother and wife). Sisters and Brother –Alma, Sonya, Rose, Nadia , Claudio and family.

Gegroet uit Warm nag in Durban Rita Queb.

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6887 Datum: Wed Dec 24, 2014 Daar is 4 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1a Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD HUWELIKE by "E. du Plessis" 1b Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD HUWELIKE by "Richard" 2a Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE by "Paul Bosman" paul5016 2b Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE by "isak"

Messages

1a Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD HUWELIKE Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:03 am (PST) . Posted by: "E. du Plessis"

Hallo Annelie,

Gaan voort soos wat jy altyd doen. Dit help my baie om net die spesifieke bladsy wat jy gemerk het na te slaan in plaas van om al die ander bladsye ook deur te soek. Dankie vir al jou moeite. Jy help ons baie wat nie by die plekke kan uitkom vir navorsing nie.

Vriendelike groete Elorina du Plessis Tarkastad

1b Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD HUWELIKE Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:10 am (PST) . Posted by: "Richard"

Annelie

Gaan voort. Jy help baie mense.

Groete Richard

From: mailto:[email protected] Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 6:01 AM To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD HUWELIKE

Goeiedag Mede (Tuisbly) Lede,

Ek is deur `n „very kind soul‟ (sonder ENIGE sarkasme van my af) verwittig dat die Bloemfontein data reeds in die „SEARCH‟ van die LDS is.

Het `n steekproef gedoen…………….

Kon nie een van my VAN DEN HEEVERs, LIEBENBERGs of ELS`e Huwelike kry nie, maar dis nou nie tersake nie.

Wat ek wil weet is:-

Is dit makliker om met my lys te werk of deur die „SEARCH‟ van die LDS ??

Groetnis. Annelie.

2a Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:31 am (PST) . Posted by: "Paul Bosman" paul5016

Dagsê Annelie

As jy Versters teekom sal ek die besonderhede waardeer.

Groetnis Paul Bosman

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 23 Desember 2014 8:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE

Hello Annelie,

Die gewone – Beneke, Benecke en van/von Benecke asb.

Groete, Carol

From: mailto:[email protected] Sent: 23 December, 2014 7:37 AM To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE

Goeiedag Mede (tuisbly) Lede,

Ek is van plan om deur die Bloemfontein-Noord NG Kerk huwelike te werk.

1919-1935 – 809 FOTOS 1935-1946 – 907 FOTOS

Enige versoeke vir vanne ??

Groetnis. Annelie.

2b Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:17 am (PST) . Posted by: "isak"

More Annelie,

Ek stel belang is van der schyff maar voor 1900.

Dankie,

Geseende Feesgety. Isak Pretorius

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE

Dagsê Annelie

As jy Versters teekom sal ek die besonderhede waardeer.

Groetnis Paul Bosman

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 23 Desember 2014 8:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE

Hello Annelie,

Die gewone – Beneke, Benecke en van/von Benecke asb.

Groete, Carol

From: mailto:[email protected] Sent: 23 December, 2014 7:37 AM To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE

Goeiedag Mede (tuisbly) Lede,

Ek is van plan om deur die Bloemfontein-Noord NG Kerk huwelike te werk.

1919-1935 – 809 FOTOS 1935-1946 – 907 FOTOS

Enige versoeke vir vanne ??

Groetnis. Annelie.

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6888 Datum: Wed Dec 24, 2014 Daar is 12 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1 Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1935-1946 by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000 2 Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1919-1935 by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000 3a PETRUS STEYN Dutch Reformed Marriages. 1914-1950 by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000 3b Re: PETRUS STEYN Dutch Reformed Marriages. 1914-1950 by "Bobbie Crowther" bobsepos 3c Re: PETRUS STEYN Dutch Reformed Marriages. 1914-1950 by "Charlie Els" charlieels 4a Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE by "Nicky Lategan" nickylate 5a Re: HARRISMITH MARRIAGES 1891-1929 by "Leon Jansen van Rensburg" 6 Geseënde Feesgety by "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie 7 [Press] The Mercury Wed 24 Dec 2014. CREDITORS..... by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 8 [Press] The Mercury Wed 24 Dec 2014 by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 9a FEESWENSE. by "Naas Olivier" 9b Re: FEESWENSE. by "Johann Hanekom" johann.hanekom

Messages

1 Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1935-1946 Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:02 am (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1935-1946 907 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/DGS-004763126_00001?cc=1910846 &wc=SS3H-ZNG:183083201,183119101,183119102 beer; 718 - Image number. beer; 843 - Image number. beer; borcherds; van tonder; 70 - Image number. beer; dreyer; 883 - Image number. beer; ehlers; 358 - Image number. beer; sabbigha; 113 - Image number. beer; vorster; 314 - Image number. burger; 338 - Image number. burger; 468 - Image number. burger; 653 - Image number. burger; 838 - Image number. burger; 886 - Image number. coertze; 757 - Image number. crowther; 25 - Image number. dreyer; 247 - Image number. dreyer; 557 - Image number. dreyer; 657 - Image number. dreyer; 670 - Image number. dreyer; 883 - Image number. els; 885 - Image number. els; bothma; 523 - Image number. els; le roux; 152 - Image number. els; loots; 210 - Image number. horn; 189 - Image number. jager; 239 - Image number. jager; 386 - Image number. jager; 57 - Image number. jager; 711 - Image number. jerling; 890 - Image number. jerling; engelbrecht; 68 - Image number. koen; 627 - Image number. krynauw; rensburg; 608 - Image number. opperman; 527 - Image number. opperman; 793 - Image number. pelser; 234 - Image number. pelser; 341 - Image number. rensburg; 145 - Image number. rensburg; 164 - Image number. rensburg; 177 - Image number. rensburg; 258 - Image number. rensburg; 35 - Image number. rensburg; 487 - Image number. rensburg; 501 - Image number. rensburg; 569 - Image number. rensburg; 591 - Image number. rensburg; 607 - Image number. rensburg; 746 - Image number. rensburg; 841 - Image number. rensburg; 856 - Image number. rensburg; 896 - Image number. rensburg; jager; 819 - Image number. rensburg; opper; lategan; 430 - Image number. stander; 305 - Image number. stander; venter; 66 - Image number. vermeulen; 581 - Image number. vermeulen; greyling; 36 - Image number. vermeulen; theron; 12 - Image number. viviers; 115 - Image number. viviers; 409 - Image number. viviers; 772 - Image number. viviers; 798 - Image number. Groetnis.

Nou is kant en klaar met BLOEMFONTEIN NOORD.

2 Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1919-1935 Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:02 am (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1919-1935 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-31287-17093-40?cc=1910846 &wc=SS3C-BZ9:183083201,183119101,1301775501 beer; de klerk; 107 - Image number. beer; du plessis; 297 - Image number. beer; kriek; 646 - Image number. beer; mentz; 663 - Image number. beer; potgieter; 141 - Image number. beer; wepener; 215 - Image number. burger; 102 - Image number. burger; 226 - Image number. burger; 287 - Image number. burger; 378 - Image number. burger; 458 - Image number. burger; 638 - Image number. burger; 738 - Image number. burger; hauptflesch; louw; 136 - Image number. burger; pienaar; 37 - Image number. coert; 326 - Image number. de swart; 312 - Image number. dreyer; 220 - Image number. dreyer; 483 - Image number. dreyer; bender; truter; 114 - Image number. els; brill; 685 - Image number. els; smuts; 765 - Image number. jager; 251 - Image number. jager; 421 - Image number. jager; 524 - Image number. jager; 537 - Image number. jager; 607 - Image number. jager; 718 - Image number. koen; 732 - Image number. koen; 38 - Image number. liebenberg; du preez; stofberg; 552 - Image number. liebenberg; pienaar; 571 - Image number. liebenberg; pretorius; 57 - Image number. mc donald; eloff; 506 - Image number. pelser; 676 - Image number. pelser; 244 - Image number. rensburg; 147 - Image number. rensburg; 156 - Image number. rensburg; 162 - Image number. rensburg; 254 - Image number. rensburg; 257 - Image number. rensburg; 295 - Image number. rensburg; 317 - Image number. rensburg; 344 - Image number. rensburg; 384 - Image number. rensburg; 568 - Image number. rensburg; 616 - Image number. rensburg; 725 - Image number. rensburg; 743 - Image number. rensburg; 750 - Image number. rensburg; 770 - Image number. rensburg; cronje; 91 - Image number. rensburg; marais; viljoen; 12 - Image number. robinson; 484 - Image number. robinson; 587 - Image number. robinson; 693 - Image number. robinson; 780 - Image number. vermeulen; 245 - Image number. vermeulen; greyling; 190 - Image number. vivier; 183 - Image number. vivier; 200 - Image number. vivier; 667 - Image number.

3a PETRUS STEYN Dutch Reformed Marriages. 1914-1950 Wed Dec 24, 2014 3:47 am (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

South Africa, Free State Dutch Reformed Church Records, 1848-1956 > Free State > Petrus Steyn > Marriages 1914-1950 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-31284-30610-12?cc=1910846 &wc=SS3C-FM3:183083201,1301770902,1301770901

Marriages 1914-1950 beer; 267 - Image number. beer; 295 - Image number. beer; 427 - Image number. beer; 435 - Image number. beer; 551 - Image number. beer; 577 - Image number. burger; 274 - Image number. coertze; 542 - Image number. els; 165 - Image number. els; 170 - Image number. els; 219 - Image number. els; 304 - Image number. els; 320 - Image number. els; 41 - Image number. greun; 158 - Image number. greun; 286 - Image number. greun; 509 - Image number. greun; 596 - Image number. hamman; 306 - Image number. hamman; 410 - Image number. horn; 330 - Image number. horn; 75 - Image number. jager; 136 - 177 - 198 -254 - 318 - 37 - 375 - Image number. jager; 465 - 478 - 494 - 576 -635 -80 - 569 - Image number. koen; 200 - Image number. krynauw; 54 - Image number. liebenberg; fourie; 245 - Image number. liebenberg; de kock; 341 - Image number. liebenberg; du toit; 629 - Image number. liebenberg; naude; 626 - Image number. liebenberg; snyman; 526 - Image number. liebenberg; vd hoven; 357 - Image number. liebenberg; vorster; 377 - Image number.

Lourens; 81 - Image number. opperman; 533 - Image number. pretorius; hamman; john; 622 - Image number. pretorius; jager; 325 - Image number. rensburg; 104 - 112 - 114 - 118 - 161 - 210 - 211 - 23 - 233 - 26 - 279 - 289 - 29

294 - 297 - 30 - 323 - 333 - 334 - 346 - 354 - 365 - 371 - 380 - 387 - 399 407 - 415 - 439 - 440 - 441 - 444 - 461 - 462 - 472 - 497 - 532 - 559 - 56 563 - 592 - 621 - 630 - 67 - 69 - 83 - 90 - 93 - 94 rensburg; swart; 490 - Image number. swart; rensburg; 215 - Image number. vivier; 428 - Image number. wernich 72 - Image number. wernich 151 - Image number. wernich 168 - Image number. wernich 195 - Image number. wernich 313 - Image number.

Groetnis.

As ek nie nou met more se kos gaan begin nie eet ons rou vleis en groentes.

3b Re: PETRUS STEYN Dutch Reformed Marriages. 1914-1950 Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:00 am (PST) . Posted by: "Bobbie Crowther" bobsepos

Dankie Annelie! Gaan begin met die kos.

> On 24 Des 2014, at 13:41, 'Annelie Els' [email protected] [SAGenealogie] wrote:

> South Africa, Free State Dutch Reformed Church Records, 1848-1956 > Free State > Petrus Steyn > Marriages 1914-1950 > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-31284-30610-12?cc=1910846&wc=SS3C- FM3:183083201,1301770902,1301770901 > > Marriages 1914-1950 > beer; 267 - Image number. > beer; 295 - Image number. > beer; 427 - Image number. > beer; 435 - Image number > beer; 551 - Image number. > beer; 577 - Image number. > > burger; 274 - Image number. > > coertze; 542 - Image number. > > els; 165 - Image number. > els; 170 - Image number. > els; 219 - Image number. > els; 304 - Image number. > els; 320 - Image number. > els; 41 - Image number.

> greun; 158 - Image number. > greun; 286 - Image number. > greun; 509 - Image number. > greun; 596 - Image number. > > hamman; 306 - Image number. > hamman; 410 - Image number. > > horn; 330 - Image number. > horn; 75 - Image number. > > jager; 136 - 177 - 198 -254 - 318 - 37 - 375 - Image number. > jager; 465 - 478 - 494 - 576 -635 -80 - 569 - Image number. > > koen; 200 - Image number. > > krynauw; 54 - Image number. > > liebenberg; fourie; 245 - Image number. > liebenberg; de kock; 341 - Image number. > liebenberg; du toit; 629 - Image number. > liebenberg; naude; 626 - Image number. > liebenberg; snyman; 526 - Image number. > liebenberg; vd hoven; 357 - Image number. > liebenberg; vorster; 377 - Image number. > > Lourens; 81 - Image number. > > opperman; 533 - Image number. > > pretorius; hamman; john; 622 - Image number. > pretorius; jager; 325 - Image number. > > rensburg; 104 - 112 - 114 - 118 - 161 - 210 - 211 - 23 - 233 - 26 - 279 - 289 - 29 > 294 - 297 - 30 - 323 - 333 - 334 - 346 - 354 - 365 - 371 - 380 - 387 - 399 > 407 - 415 - 439 - 440 - 441 - 444 - 461 - 462 - 472 - 497 - 532 - 559 - 56 > 563 - 592 - 621 - 630 - 67 - 69 - 83 - 90 - 93 - 94 > > rensburg; swart; 490 - Image number. > > swart; rensburg; 215 - Image number. > > vivier; 428 - Image number. > > wernich 72 - Image number. > wernich 151 - Image number. > wernich 168 - Image number. > wernich 195 - Image number. > wernich 313 - Image number. > > Groetnis. > > As ek nie nou met more se kos gaan begin nie eet ons rou vleis en groentes.

3c Re: PETRUS STEYN Dutch Reformed Marriages. 1914-1950 Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:40 am (PST) . Posted by: "Charlie Els" charlieels Annelie,

Jy gee ons sommer baie geskenke in ons genealogiese kerskouse.

Baie dankie daarvoor en lekker Kersfees hou.

Groete, CHARLIE

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 24 December 2014 01:41 PM To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] PETRUS STEYN Dutch Reformed Marriages. 1914-1950

Marriages 1914-1950 els; 165 - Image number. els; 170 - Image number. els; 219 - Image number. els; 304 - Image number. els; 320 - Image number. els; 41 - Image number.

Groetnis.

As ek nie nou met more se kos gaan begin nie eet ons rou vleis en groentes.

4a Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:19 am (PST) . Posted by: "Nicky Lategan" nickylate

Annelie, Lategan is altyd welkom om van te weet.

Heelwat Lategans in die Vrystaat.

Groetnis.

NS. Was bietjie weg; sien nou eers die boodskap.

From: mailto:[email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 23 December, 2014 7:37 AM To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE

Goeiedag Mede (tuisbly) Lede, Ek is van plan om deur die Bloemfontein-Noord NG Kerk huwelike te werk.

1919-1935 - 809 FOTOS

1935-1946 - 907 FOTOS

Enige versoeke vir vanne ??

Groetnis. Annelie.

5a Re: HARRISMITH MARRIAGES 1891-1929 Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:42 am (PST) . Posted by: "Leon Jansen van Rensburg"

Annelie, ek sal enige Lubbe huwelike waardeer.

By voorbaat baie dankie

Leon

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:57 PM To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] HARRISMITH MARRIAGES 1891-1929

Hallo Mede (tuisbly) Lyslede,

Ek was besig met Harrismith se huwelike en het julle versoeke ingedagte gehou. Indien julle dit nog nie gedoen het nie.

Groetnis. Annelie.

6 Geseënde Feesgety Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:49 am (PST) . Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie

Naand Vriende,

„n Baie geseënde Kerdag vir u en u families en „n baie voorspoedige 2015.

Kersgroete, Fanie, Hikkie en Tinka Blignaut

7 [Press] The Mercury Wed 24 Dec 2014. CREDITORS..... Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:00 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:-" Happy, happy Christmas, that can win us back to the delusions of our childhood days, , recall to the old man the pleasures of his youth, and transport the traveller back to his own fireside and quiet home!." - Charles DICKENS.

CREDITORS/ DEBTORS:-

GIANDHARI Surendra ID 590208 5069 08 8 + 27 May 2014 x Deopathi GIANDHARI ID 620913 0679 08 8 of 71 Greenvale Ave Westcliff , Chatsworth. ESTATE No. 27109/ 2014/DBN. EBI MOOLLA & SINGH 1st Floor Nagiah's Centre, 284 Lenny NAIDU Drve Bayview Chatsworth 4092.TEL:- 031 4005202.

GOVENDER Abigail Latchmi ID 450404 0073 08 9 + 13 July 2014 of 42 Brailsford Ave, Sunford Phoenix 4068. ESTATE No. 31597/2014/DBN. FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 27511 Greenacres 6057. REF:- Debra Allie.

GOVENDER Rangasamy ID 391208 5075 08 6 + 26 May 2014 x in community of property to Abigail Latchmi David GOVENDER ID 450404 0073 08 9 of 42 Brailsford Ave, Sunford Phoenix 4068. ESTATE No 31596/2014 DBN. FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 27511 Greenacres 6057. REF:- Debra Allie.

SINGH Suminthri ID 260202 0426 08 7 + 8 March 2009 of 9 Tulip Rd Buffelsdale, Tongaat 4400. ESTATE No 25002/2014 .B P SINGH C/O SA FINANCIAL ENTERPRISE P O Box 78149 Avondale 4101.

FIRST /FINAL:-

PEARSON Sophia Cecilia ID 421219 0038 08 0 + 11 July 2014 of 8 Launceston Mews, Launceston Rd Amanzimtoti. ESTATE No 28317/2014/Durban. FNB TRUST SERVICES P O Box 27511 Greenacres 6057.

Geseende Dag aan alle naby en ver van Durban Suid Afrika. Rita Quebbemann

8 [Press] The Mercury Wed 24 Dec 2014 Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:01 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

Geseënde Kersdag aan almal/ Merry Christmas to all.

QUICKQUIP:-"The greater part of our happiness depends on our dispositions, and not on our circumstances." US First Lady Martha WASHINGTON (1731 ----1802)

MARRIAGES:-BARNETT Jayson & Bianca married at Jozini Tiger River Lodge. (photo)

COLES Bevan & Jeanelle married at Malvern Emmanuel Tabernacle. (photo).

COURTENAY Darren & Jules married at Shalwyn, Tala Valley. (photo)

GIQUEL Lloyd & Nazley married at St Teresa Hall, Sydenham. (photo).

MEYER Andrew & Karenvon married at Nambiti Game Reserve. (photo)

NAIDOO Jerona & Dineshin ODAYAR married at MTSS Hall, Durban. (photo)

NAIDOO Oriven & Amanda MUNSAMY married at Durban Hindu Temple. (photo) .

STEYN Peter & Kath married at All Souls Anglican Church, Umhlali.(photo)

WANLES Brandon & Shelley married at The Secret Garden, Pietermaritzburg. (photo)

CONSECRATION:- GAR Rose Dinah Blaiberg and Jeanette (Jean) LEVY .Unveiling and censecration on 28 Dec 2014 at 0930 at Redhill Cemetery.

DEATHS:- JÜRGENS Udo + 21 Dec 2014 .

ALGIERS:-GOURI Abdelmalek + 22 Dec 2014 .He was the man behind the French hikerâ€™ s kidnapping and beheading in Sept last year.( Herve GOURDEL).

ALLAN GOMES 17 Aug 1940 ----22 Dec 2014. Brother and friend of Beryl, Mickey , Carol, Jay , Doreen and family; Father ,grand and great-grandfather of Leigh, Glenn, Garth, Jodi, Niko, Alysia, Wayne, Sally , Jenna, Donna, Kerry, Dave, Cali, Shawn, Emily and family. Memorial at Manning Rd Methodist Church on 26 Dec 2014 at 11am.

GANGIAH Mr Sunny . Funeral on 24 Dec 2014 from 11am ---1:30pm at Merebank Regional Hall , Clare Estate Crematorium at 2:15----3pm.

HARVEY Leyland Kerwin . Son of + Brett HARVEY and son of Keith & Fiona POTTER. Father of Lydell. Brother to Kaylinn and Tia POTTER. Funeral on 27 Dec 2014 at the Sacret Hearth Catholic Church Woodlands Montclair at 11:30am Cremation private.

KAY Manwathi (Myna) of Wentworth x + Kay . Mother, mother-in-law, grandmother ,sister and aunt. Funeral on 27 Dec 2014 at 10:30 am at Power House Ministries proceeding to Dudley Street Cemetery.

KEARNEY James Martin + 20 Dec 2014 in Pretoria. Husband and father. Son and brother. ; Funeral on 27 Dec 2014 at 11am at The Catholic Church Queenswood Pretoria.

KEYSER Marthinus Rademan 12 Feb 1927 ----22 Dec 2014 . Father of Sonya, Carl and Dion. Grandfather of Lee, Gina, Daniel, Lucy and Calem. TEL:- Carl at 082 9416222.

MOODLIAR Savatri. Funeral Service at Clare Estate Crematorium Hall on 24 Dec 2014 from 11:30 --- 3pm. Thereafter proceeding for cremation.

NAIDOO Mogan NAIDU x KOGI NAIDU. Father to Mona NAIDOO, Dr Kuben NAIDU, Thatha to Dr Reshanja, Nivida, Riya and Keeran NAIDOO. Brother to Jay, Dheva, Sundra, Ram, Gnana and Saras. Brother-in-law to Vigie NAIDOO and father-in-law to Dr Ruben NAIDOO and Dr Unita CHETTY. Body will lie in state on 24 Dec 2014 at Clare Estate Crematorium Hall from 4pm ----5:30pm .Cremation at 6pm.

NULLIAH Daniel x Patricia NULLIAH . Father of Gregory & Jade. Funeral was on 23 Dec 2014. Thank you to family and staff for support and assistance during this time.

REID David Warwick 14 May 1927 -----19 Dec 2014 x Nanette Myrtle REID. Father of Heather, Kevin, Tony and Melanie. Grandfather of Jessica , Warwick, Kirsty, David, Roxanne, Maxine, Ramon, Jason and Alec. Brother and uncle.

ROGERS Norman Daniel (Butch) 10 Feb 1941 ---20 Dec 2014 in Underberg x Jennifer. Father of Luke, Daniel and Matthew; Michelle and grand-daughters Susan Molly, Dinah and Esther.Memorial at St Michaels Church Himeville on 27 Dec 2014 at 11am. Donations in place of flowers to Clouds of Hope Childrens Care Centre Underberg.

SCHALKWYK Victor Joseph (Kaks) . Funeral on 27 Dec 2014 at Christ The King Parish Wentworth at 12noon Proceeding to Dudley Street Cemetery.

TOMKIN Neil . Funeral on 24 Dec 2014 at 10am at Redhill Jewish Cemetery.

VAN HEERDEN Phillip Vivian + 21 Dec 2014 . Son of Brigitte and brother of Charles. Requiem Mass at St Cyprians Anglican Church on 24 Dec 2014 at 11am. Cremation private. SHANLEYâ€™S 031 2057644.

VAN WYK Patrick Denzil . Son of George & + Caroline . Brother of Nicholas, Derrick, John, Michael and + Claude. Funeral at St Peters Anglican Church , Newlands East at 10am. Proceeding to Newlands East Cemetery.

VAN WYK Robert (Robby) + 20 Dec 2014 x Dawn. Father of Arlene, Perrine, Merlene, Allan and + Sherrine. Grandfather and brother. Funeral on 27 Dec 2014 at St Johns Church Sydenham from 11am proceeding to Stellawood Cemetery.

MEMORIAM:- BOOYSEN Jeffrey Allan Peter + 25 Dec 2008 . From Claude, Winni and the Boys.

DELPORT Wayne Douglas. 8 years gone now. Son and Boet Wayne from Mom, Darren, Zane and Grampie.

HARMSWORTH Dennis Adrian 24 July 1932 ----24 Dec 2003 x Joyce. Children and grandchildren ; Father and grandfather of Derek, Sue , Denim and Simone.

JEYCOCKE Warren Lee + 24 Dec 2009. Grandson . From Nanna. ; From Dad & Mom.

LANE Ronald Royston 25 Feb 1933 ---24 Dec 2002. Remembered by Barbara and Carol.

NAIDOO Captain H. R. (Julian) 26 Dec 1962-----22 April 2012. Would have been 52 today.Husband of Joy. Father of Jerry,, Jen, Jamie, Cedric, Jonas, Jonaz.

PORTER Dad, Mum, Alvin and Ronald .Remembered by your family.

REDDY Allan 25 Jan 1966 ----24 Dec 2013. Father of Sandra, Dharshan, Priyanka, the PILLAY family and staff at Konica Photo Express.

WESSELS William Henry Mara 1918 ---2012. Father, grand and great-grandfather.

Gegroet uit Durban . Rita Quebbemann.

9a FEESWENSE. Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:41 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Naas Olivier"

Hallo Vriende:-

Geseënde Kersfees en voorspoedige 2015. Geniet die familie en vriende gedurende die feestyd. Groete.

NAAS EN AMOR OLIVIER TEL. 042 296 2120 FAKS. 086 762 4084 SEL. NAAS. 082 823 8945 - E.POS [email protected] SEL. AMOR. 072 545 0260 - E.POS [email protected] NAVORSING:- OLIVIER/BURGER – PRETORIUS/STEENKAMP – VERMEULEN/HUMAN - SOUNES

9b Re: FEESWENSE. Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:50 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Johann Hanekom" johann.hanekom

Hallo Lysvriende

„n Baie geseënde Kersfees, en „n voorspoedige Nuwe Jaar vir julle en julle geliefdes. Mag julle elke dag Sy liefde in julle lewens ervaar, en mag 2015 vir julle die beste jaar ooit wees – en elke jaar daarna nog beter as die vorige.

Johann Hanekom Lancaster UK http://www.hanekom.org.uk/gedview/individual.php?pid=I1967&ged=hanekom.ged

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6889 Datum: Thu Dec 25, 2014 Daar is 14 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1a ROUXVILLE Dutch Reformed Church Marriages 1885-1955 by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000 1b Re: ROUXVILLE Dutch Reformed Church Marriages 1885-1955 by "Gustav & René Pansegrouw" 2a Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE by "Eddie Otte" otte.eddie 3a Re: HARRISMITH MARRIAGES 1891-1929 by "Eddie Otte" otte.eddie 4a Re: Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1935-1946 by "Eddie Otte" otte.eddie 4b Re: Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1935-1946 by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000 4c Re: Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1935-1946 by "Eddie Otte" otte.eddie 5 (no subject) by "Magda Schoeman" 6a Re: Anna Sophia VAN DER MERWE by andrievanderlinde 7 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 24 Desember 2014 by "Hester Marx" 8a Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD HUWELIKE by "Jaleen de Beer" jaleen46 9a Re: Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1919-1935 by "Sarel Burger" sarel.burger 9b Re: Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1919-1935 by "Johan Vermeulen" vermeulenjpsa 10 SENEKAL Dutch Reformed Marriages. by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

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1a ROUXVILLE Dutch Reformed Church Marriages 1885-1955 Thu Dec 25, 2014 2:43 am (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

Geseënde Kersdag vir julle almal.

Groetnis. Annelie. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-31287-21969-38?cc=1910846 &wc=SS3C-BZQ:183083201,1301773002,1301773001

Marriages 1885-1920 beer; 805 - Image number. beer; 863 - Image number. beer; 90 - Image number. davies; 17 - Image number. davies; 594 - Image number. davies; 684 - Image number.

ELS; 670 - Image number. jager; 692 - Image number. jager; 846 - Image number. krynauw; 375 - Image number. krynauw; 618 - Image number. lategan; 634 - Image number. lourens; 272 - Image number. lourens; 275 - Image number. lubbe; 163 - Image number. lubbe; 177 - Image number. lubbe; 185 - Image number. lubbe; 210 - Image number. lubbe; 266 - Image number. lubbe; 273 - Image number. lubbe; 35 - Image number. lubbe; 369 - Image number. lubbe; 98 - Image number. mc donald; 903 - Image number. opperman; 914 - Image number. pansegrouw; 169 - Image number. pansegrouw; 475 - Image number. pansegrouw; 496 - Image number. pansegrouw; 577 - Image number. pansegrouw; 635 - Image number. pansegrouw; 853 - Image number. pansegrouw; 890 - Image number. rensburg; 157 - Image number. rensburg; 186 - Image number. rensburg; 193 - Image number. rensburg; 202 - Image number. rensburg; 24 - Image number. rensburg; 28 - Image number. rensburg; 327 - Image number. rensburg; 392 - Image number. rensburg; 468 - Image number. rensburg; 523 - Image number. rensburg; 556 - Image number. rensburg; 617 - Image number. rensburg; 645 - Image number. rensburg; 701 - Image number. rensburg; 706 - Image number. rensburg; pret; 568 - Image number. swart x allen; 889 - Image number. swart x botha; 797 - Image number. swart; 162 - Image number. vermeulen x de beer; 822 - Image number. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-31330-6101-89?cc=1910846 &wc=SS3C-GP8:183083201,1301773002,1301775701

Marriages 1920-1955 bakkes; 435 - Image number. beer de x henning; 25 dec 1934; 224 - Image number. beer; 271 - Image number. beer; 402 - Image number. buys; 309 - Image number. delport x swart; botha; 9 oct 1923; 56 - Image number. horn; 72 - Image number. jager; 373 - Image number.

LIEBENBERG; 376 - Image number. LIEBENBERG; 382 - Image number. mc donald; 115 - Image number. mc donald; 162 - Image number. mc donald; 374 - Image number. pansegrouw; 15 - Image number. pansegrouw; 358 - Image number. pansegrouw; 36 - Image number. pansegrouw; 385 - Image number. pansegrouw; 442 - Image number. rensburg; 241 - Image number. rensburg; 33 - Image number. rensburg; 331 - Image number. rensburg; 332 - Image number. rensburg; 334 - Image number. rensburg; 71 - Image number. scott; 245 - Image number. swart x botha; 9 oct 1923; 57 - Image number. uys; 306 - Image number. uys; 405 - Image number. verster; 11 - Image number. verster; 132 - Image number. verster; 133 - Image number. verster; 201 - Image number. verster; 206 - Image number. verster; 283 - Image number. verster; 386 - Image number. verster; 44 - Image number. verster; 92 - Image number. wilken x swart; 20 apr 1943; 338 - Image number. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-31288-3378-61?cc=1910846 &wc=SS3C-ZNB:183083201,1301773002,1301789044

Marriages 1870-1885 beer x bothma; 233 - Image number. beer x pretorius; 408 - Image number. beer x slabbert; 79 - Image number. beer; 334 - Image number. beer; 363 - Image number. beer; 417 - Image number. dreyer; 225 - Image number. dreyer; 46 - Image number. dreyer; 74 - Image number. lubbe; 172 - Image number. lubbe; 272 - Image number. opperman; 337 - Image number. opperman; 386 - Image number. pansegrouw; 130 - Image number. pansegrouw; 17 - Image number. pansegrouw; 250 - Image number. pansegrouw; 269 - Image number. pansegrouw; 302 - Image number. pansegrouw; 358 - Image number. rensburg; 101 - Image number. rensburg; 127 - Image number. rensburg; 224 - Image number. rensburg; 332 - Image number. rensburg; 339 - Image number. rensburg; 379 - Image number. rensburg; 380 - Image number. rensburg; 415 - Image number. rensburg; 5 - Image number. swart; 323 - Image number. swart; 444 - Image number. verster; 162 - Image number. verster; 195 - Image number. verster; 245 - Image number. verster; 247 - Image number. verster; 254 - Image number. verster; 297 - Image number. verster; 383 - Image number. woolvaardt; 274 - Image number. woolvaardt; 30 - Image number.

1b Re: ROUXVILLE Dutch Reformed Church Marriages 1885-1955 Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:32 am (PST) . Posted by: "Gustav & René Pansegrouw"

Hallo Annelie

Baie dankie!

Geseënde Kersdag vir jou ook.

Groetnis. René

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 25 December 2014 12:44 To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] ROUXVILLE Dutch Reformed Church Marriages 1885-1955

Geseënde Kersdag vir julle almal.

Groetnis.

Annelie. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-31287-21969-38?cc=1910846 &wc=SS3C-BZQ:183083201,1301773002,1301773001

Marriages 1885-1920 ELS; 670 - Image pansegrouw; 169 - Image number. pansegrouw; 475 - Image number. pansegrouw; 496 - Image number. pansegrouw; 577 - Image number. pansegrouw; 635 - Image number. pansegrouw; 853 - Image number. pansegrouw; 890 - Image number. rensburg; 157 - Image number. rensburg; 186 - Image number. rensburg; 193 - Image number. rensburg; 202 - Image number. rensburg; 24 - Image number. rensburg; 28 - Image number. rensburg; 327 - Image number. rensburg; 392 - Image number. rensburg; 468 - Image number. rensburg; 523 - Image number. rensburg; 556 - Image number. rensburg; 617 - Image number. rensburg; 645 - Image number. rensburg; 701 - Image number. rensburg; 706 - Image number. rensburg; pret; 568 - Image number. vermeulen x de beer; 822 - Image https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-31330-6101-89?cc=1910846 &wc=SS3C-GP8:183083201,1301773002,1301775701

Marriages 1920-1955 pansegrouw; 15 - Image number. pansegrouw; 358 - Image number. pansegrouw; 36 - Image number. pansegrouw; 385 - Image number. pansegrouw; 442 - Image number. rensburg; 241 - Image number. rensburg; 33 - Image number. rensburg; 331 - Image number. rensburg; 332 - Image number. rensburg; 334 - Image number. rensburg; 71 - Image number. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-31288-3378-61?cc=1910846 &wc=SS3C-ZNB:183083201,1301773002,1301789044

Marriages 1870-1885 pansegrouw; 130 - Image number. pansegrouw; 17 - Image number. pansegrouw; 250 - Image number. pansegrouw; 269 - Image number. pansegrouw; 302 - Image number. pansegrouw; 358 - Image number. rensburg; 101 - Image number. rensburg; 127 - Image number. rensburg; 224 - Image number. rensburg; 332 - Image number. rensburg; 339 - Image number. rensburg; 379 - Image number. rensburg; 380 - Image number. rensburg; 415 - Image number. rensburg; 5 - Image number.

2a Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE Thu Dec 25, 2014 2:53 am (PST) . Posted by: "Eddie Otte" otte.eddie

Annelie, Jy is 'n darling !!

Ek sal alle inligting van MOLL baie waardeer.

Asseblief.

Eddie Otte Rustenburg 014 533 1318 en 081 042 0299 OTTE, MOLL, LOMBARD, VAN NIEKERK, VILJOEN

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 23 December 2014 07:37 AM To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD NG KERK HUWELIKE

Goeiedag Mede (tuisbly) Lede,

Ek is van plan om deur die Bloemfontein-Noord NG Kerk huwelike te werk.

1919-1935 - 809 FOTOS

1935-1946 - 907 FOTOS

Enige versoeke vir vanne ??

Groetnis. Annelie.

3a Re: HARRISMITH MARRIAGES 1891-1929 Thu Dec 25, 2014 2:59 am (PST) . Posted by: "Eddie Otte" otte.eddie

Annelie,

Kan jy aseblief vir my die MOLL data van Harrismith laat kry?

Kan jy ons leer/vertel hoe om "maklik" deur al die data te gaan sodat dit nie nodig is om elke keer te wag vir die lang oopmaak proses nie?

Asseblief.

Eddie Otte Rustenburg 014 533 1318 en 081 042 0299 OTTE, MOLL, LOMBARD, VAN NIEKERK, VILJOEN

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 23 December 2014 02:57 PM To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] HARRISMITH MARRIAGES 1891-1929

Hallo Mede (tuisbly) Lyslede,

Ek was besig met Harrismith se huwelike en het julle versoeke ingedagte gehou. Indien julle dit nog nie gedoen het nie.

Groetnis. Annelie.

4a Re: Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1935-1946 Thu Dec 25, 2014 4:01 am (PST) . Posted by: "Eddie Otte" otte.eddie

Annelie,

Was my versoek vir die MOLLe te laat, of was daar geen MOLLe?

Asseblief.

Eddie Otte Rustenburg 014 533 1318 en 081 042 0299 OTTE, MOLL, LOMBARD, VAN NIEKERK, VILJOEN

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 24 December 2014 12:03 PM To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1935-1946

Groetnis.

Nou is kant en klaar met BLOEMFONTEIN NOORD.

4b Re: Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1935-1946 Thu Dec 25, 2014 4:38 am (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

Hallo Eddie,

Wanneer ek die data plaas is dit omdat ek reeds klaar deur die klomp fotos gewerk het.

Gaan ongelukkig nie weer terug nie.

Ek jou naam nou by die lys geplaas.

Groetnis. Annelie.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 25 December 2014 01:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1935-1946

Annelie,

Was my versoek vir die MOLLe te laat, of was daar geen MOLLe?

Asseblief.

Eddie Otte Rustenburg 014 533 1318 en 081 042 0299 OTTE, MOLL, LOMBARD, VAN NIEKERK, VILJOEN

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 24 December 2014 12:03 PM To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1935-1946

Groetnis.

Nou is kant en klaar met BLOEMFONTEIN NOORD.

4c Re: Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1935-1946 Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:46 am (PST) . Posted by: "Eddie Otte" otte.eddie

Annalie,

Baie dankie. Ek verstaan en waardeer.

Eddie

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 25 December 2014 02:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1935-1946

Hallo Eddie,

Wanneer ek die data plaas is dit omdat ek reeds klaar deur die klomp fotos gewerk het.

Gaan ongelukkig nie weer terug nie.

Ek jou naam nou by die lys geplaas.

Groetnis. Annelie.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 25 December 2014 01:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1935-1946

Annelie,

Was my versoek vir die MOLLe te laat, of was daar geen MOLLe?

Asseblief.

Eddie Otte Rustenburg 014 533 1318 en 081 042 0299 OTTE, MOLL, LOMBARD, VAN NIEKERK, VILJOEN

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 24 December 2014 12:03 PM To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1935-1946

Groetnis.

Nou is kant en klaar met BLOEMFONTEIN NOORD.

5 (no subject) Thu Dec 25, 2014 4:26 am (PST) . Posted by: "Magda Schoeman"

Ek wens almal n wonderlike en geseende Kersfees asook n voorspoedige Nuwejaar toe!

Groete Magda

Magda Schoeman P.O. Box 12002 Garden Route Mall 6546 Tel: + 27 44 8890142 Cell: + 27 83 2257733 Fax: + 086 770 0942

6a Re: Anna Sophia VAN DER MERWE Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:00 am (PST) . Posted by: andrievanderlinde

Hallo Mike/Edna

Daar is goeie bewyse dat Barend Stephanus van der Linde 'n derde keer getrou het - Met Anna Johanna van Wyngaart in die NHK Potchefstroom op 17 Desember 1876.

Vriendelike groete Andrie

7 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 24 Desember 2014 Thu Dec 25, 2014 10:52 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Hester Marx"

Sterfgevalle

DE REUCK, John Smith (snr). +Saterdag 20 Desember 2014 na kort siekbed. Eggenote Jenny, John (snr), Aurette, Gareth, Pauling, Martin, Jennifer, Alexander. Roudiens Maandag 29 Desember 2014 11:00 NG Kerk Vierdelaan, Walmer, P.E. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 24/12/2014) Jan van der Westhuizen, Algoa Begrafnisdienste 041 363 4874

STRYDOM, Johan Andries. *13/11/1935. +Maandag 22 Des 2014 in Humansdorp. Eggenote, kinders, kleinkinders. Dankdiens Maandag 29 Desember 2014 11:00 NG Kerk Oos-gemeente, Humansdorp. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 24/12/2014) Bokkie Els AVBOB Humansdorp 042 291 1230

VERCUIL, Corrie. +Vrydag 19 Desember 2014 in Cuyler Kliniek, Uitenhage. Verassingsdiens Woensdag 24 Desember 2014 14:00 NG Kerk Bothasrus, Despatch. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 24/12/2014) Navrae: Bossies 041 991 1471

Hester Marx, Loerie [email protected]

8a Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD HUWELIKE Thu Dec 25, 2014 10:59 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Jaleen de Beer" jaleen46

Jou lys is strate beter - geen gesukkel nie !!!

Lovies, Jaleen

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 6:02 AM To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD HUWELIKE

Goeiedag Mede (Tuisbly) Lede,

Ek is deur `n 'very kind soul' (sonder ENIGE sarkasme van my af) verwittig dat die Bloemfontein data reeds in die 'SEARCH' van die LDS is.

Het `n steekproef gedoen......

Kon nie een van my VAN DEN HEEVERs, LIEBENBERGs of ELS`e Huwelike kry nie, maar dis nou nie tersake nie.

Wat ek wil weet is:-

Is dit makliker om met my lys te werk of deur die 'SEARCH' van die LDS ??

Groetnis. Annelie.

9a Re: Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1919-1935 Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:28 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Sarel Burger" sarel.burger

Annelie,

Dankie vir die gawe kersgeskenk van al die Burger's.

Sarel Burger, Stellenbosch

From: mailto:[email protected] Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 12:03 PM To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1919-1935

Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1919-1935

9b Re: Bloemfontein North Dutch Reformed Marriages 1919-1935 Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:52 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Johan Vermeulen" vermeulenjpsa

More Annelie,

Baie dankie

Jy spaar vir ons oneindig baie moeite en kosbare tyd.

Ek het net nie die tyd om die registers bladsy/vir bladsy self oop te maak nie.

Hartlike groete Johan

10 SENEKAL Dutch Reformed Marriages. Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:13 am (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

More Mede-Lyslede,

Dankie aan almal wat kommentaar, en dankies gestuur het vir hierdie lyste.

Het vanoggend `n 'draai' gaan maak in Senekal.

Baie suksesvol met `n hele paar Heevers - Liebenbergs maar net een ou Els'ie. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-31288-1274-5?cc=1910846 &wc=SS3C-ZJS:183083201,183189101,1301773901

Marriages 1889-1903 dreyer; 188 - Image number. dreyer; 265 - Image number. dreyer; 266 - Image number. dreyer; 273 - Image number. dreyer; 354 - Image number. dreyer; 379 - Image number. horn; 40 - Image number. jager; 3 - Image number. jager; 55 - Image number. koen; 65 - Image number. liebenberg; 51 - Image number. liebenberg; 59 - Image number. oberholzer; 116 - Image number. rensburg; 310 - Image number. rensburg; 81 - Image number. vivier; 203 - Image number. vivier; 7 - Image number. vivier; 8 - Image number.

Marriages 1903-1927 burger; 730 - Image number. buys; 166 - Image number. horn; 132 - Image number. humphries; 330 - Image number. jager; 69 - Image number. jager; 285 - Image number. jager; 816 - Image number. jerling; 188 - Image number. jerling; 435 - Image number. jerling; 690 - Image number. koen; 618 - Image number. koen; 769 - Image number. krynauw; 28 - Image number. lategan; 807 - Image number. liebenberg; 101 - Image number. liebenberg; 366 - Image number. liebenberg; 37 - Image number. liebenberg; 415 - Image number. liebenberg; 553 - Image number. liebenberg; 776 - Image number. liebenberg; dreyer; 775 - Image number. oberholzer; 383 - Image number. opperman; 224 - Image number. rensburg; 15 - Image number. rensburg; 151 - Image number. rensburg; 17 - Image number. rensburg; 197 - Image number. rensburg; 236 - Image number. rensburg; 243 - Image number. rensburg; 298 - Image number. rensburg; 398 - Image number. rensburg; 402 - Image number. rensburg; 588 - Image number. rensburg; 624 - Image number. rensburg; 791 - Image number. rensburg; dreyer; 311 - Image number. stander; 479 - Image number. stander; 480 - Image number. stander; 789 - Image number. vivier; 108 - Image number.

Marriages 1927-1951 794 buys; 330 - Image number. buys; 424 - Image number. buys; 648 - Image number. coert; 539 - Image number. de swardt; 680 - Image number. dreyer; 223 - Image number. dreyer; 420 - Image number. dreyer; 542 - Image number. dreyer; 615 - Image number. dreyer; 732 - Image number. dreyer; 8 - Image number. dreyer; 131 - Image number. dreyer; 22 - Image number. dreyer; 453 - Image number. dreyer; 475 - Image number. dreyer; 651 - Image number. els; 771 - Image number. jager; 137 - Image number. jager; 29 - Image number. jager; 494 - Image number. jager; 503 - Image number. jager; 533 - Image number. jager; 589 - Image number. jager; 612 - Image number. jerling; 347 - Image number. jerling; 350 - Image number. jerling; 616 - Image number. koen; 158 - Image number. koen; 288 - Image number. krynauw; 235 - Image number. krynauw; 251 - Image number. krynauw; 437 - Image number. lategan; 688 - Image number. lategan; 689 - Image number. lategan; 702 - Image number. liebenberg; 422 - Image number. liebenberg; 51 - Image number. lourens; 295 - Image number. lubbe; 149 - Image number. lubbe; 283 - Image number. oberholzer; 132 - Image number. oberholzer; 386 - Image number. oberholzer; 495 - Image number. oberholzer; 501 - Image number. rensburg; 140 - Image number. rensburg; 193 - Image number. rensburg; 281 - Image number. rensburg; 38 - Image number. rensburg; 410 - Image number. rensburg; 414 - Image number. rensburg; 472 - Image number. rensburg; 587 - Image number. rensburg; 761 - Image number. robinson; 513 - Image number. stander; 421 - Image number. stander; 537 - Image number. stander; 560 - Image number. stander; 625 - Image number. verster; 14 - Image number. vivier; 19 - Image number.

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6890 Datum: Fri Dec 26, 2014 Daar is 8 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1 PETRUSBURG Dutch Reformed Church Marriages. by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000 2 OVS NG Kerk rekords op Family Search by "Fanie Buys" fbuys1968 3a Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD HUWELIKE by "Dora Opperman" 3b Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD HUWELIKE by "Dora Opperman" 4a Graf op plaas langs die Vaaldam by "Faan Naudé, Rietfontein, Pretoria" 4b Re: Graf op plaas langs die Vaaldam by "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie 5a Nel kenners by "ansu boyd" ansuboyd 6 Re: Thomas Nel by "ansu boyd" ansuboyd

Messages

1 PETRUSBURG Dutch Reformed Church Marriages. Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:03 am (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

Hallo Lyslede,

Nou gaan ek die Heever, Liebenberg en Els`e wat ek in die dorpe opgespoor het verwerk.

Dan moet ek soek vir hierdie mense se kindertjies in die doopregisters… J

Dit vat baie meer tyd as net deur die huwelike te werk. Jammer gaan nie hier uitkyk vir die versoeke nie.

Dit moet julle self doen… J

Mag julle almal `n baie vrugtevolle-genealogiese dag hê….

Groetnis. Annelie.

South Africa, Free State Dutch Reformed Church Records, 1848-1956 > Free State > Petrusburg > Marriages 1900 1903-1915 1943-1953 1915-1927 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-31284-30277-87?cc=1910846 &wc=SS3C-7M3:183083201,1301813333,1301813332

Marriages 1900-1927 beer; 228 - Image number beer; 291 - Image number beer; 331 - Image number burger; 352 - Image number burger; 87 - Image number buys; 122 - Image number buys; 130 - Image number coert; 111 - Image number coert; 117 - Image number coert; 220 - Image number coert; 249 - Image number coert; 250 - Image number coert; 6 - Image number de swardt; 126 - Image number de swardt; 180 - Image number dreyer; 216 - Image number dreyer; 231 - Image number dreyer; coertzen; 360 - Image number els; 54 - Image number liebenberg; 32 - Image number lourens 229 - Image number lubbe; 144 - Image number lubbe; 35 - Image number lubbe; 42 - Image number lubbe; 43 - Image number lubbe; 40 - Image number lubbe; coert; 15 - Image number oberholzer; 4 - Image number rensburg; 348 - Image number rensburg; dreyer; 86 - Image number robinson; 158 - Image number vermeulen; 89 - Image number

Marriages 1928-1943 burger; 139 - Image number coert; ; 171 - Image number coert; 184 - Image number coert; 186 - Image number coert; 21 - Image number lourens; 140 - Image number lourens; 152 - Image number oberholzer; 198 - Image number opperman; 102 - Image number rensburg; 122 - Image number rensburg; 182 - Image number rensburg; 71 - Image number vermeulen; 163 - Image number walnich; 47 - Image number

2 OVS NG Kerk rekords op Family Search Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:09 am (PST) . Posted by: "Fanie Buys" fbuys1968

Middag Lyslede

Ek het vandag weer sommer vir die interessantheid die soek-blokkie op Family Search vir OVS NG Kerk rekords gebruik.

Mens moet maar versigtig wees, want daar is 'n paar GK rekords wat as NG Kerk gekoppel is.

Groete

Fanie Buys Posbus 2924 Sasolburg 0829296695 Vanne: Buys, de Buys, Coetzee

3a Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD HUWELIKE Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:02 am (PST) . Posted by: "Dora Opperman"

Hallo Annelie,

Met jou hulp gaan dit soveel makliker met die Oppermans se opsporing. Baie dankie, sal jy asb voortgaan

Beste wense vir 2015 en hoop ons sal nog lank mede lysteraars wees

Groete

2014-12-24 11:10 GMT+02:00 'Richard' [email protected] [SAGenealogie] < [email protected]>:

> Annelie > > Gaan voort. Jy help baie mense. > > Groete > Richard > *From:* mailto:[email protected] > > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 6:01 AM > *To:* SAGenealogie > *Subject:* [SA-Gen] BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD HUWELIKE > > Goeiedag Mede (Tuisbly) Lede, > > Ek is deur `n ˜very kind soul" (sonder ENIGE sarkasme van my af) > verwittig dat die Bloemfontein data reeds in die ˜SEARCH' van die LDS is. > > Het `n steekproef gedoen. > > Kon nie een van my VAN DEN HEEVERs, LIEBENBERGs of ELS`e Huwelike kry > nie, maar dis nou nie tersake nie. > > Wat ek wil weet is:- > > Is dit makliker om met my lys te werk of deur die â€˜SEARCHâ€™ van die LDS ?? > > Groetnis. > Annelie.

Dora Opperman-Gericke 111 Fairhaven Aftree-oord Woodhead Rylaan, Humewood Port Elizabeth 6001 Cell: 0828768371 [email protected]

3b Re: BLOEMFONTEIN-NOORD HUWELIKE Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:03 am (PST) . Posted by: "Dora Opperman"

2014-12-24 6:01 GMT+02:00 'Annelie Els' [email protected] [SAGenealogie] :

> Goeiedag Mede (Tuisbly) Lede, > > Ek is deur `n ˜very kind soul' (sonder ENIGE sarkasme van my af) verwittig > dat die Bloemfontein data reeds in die 'SEARCH' van die LDS is. > > Het `n steekproef gedoen > > Kon nie een van my VAN DEN HEEVERs, LIEBENBERGs of ELS`e Huwelike kry nie, > maar dis nou nie tersake nie. > > Wat ek wil weet is:- > > Is dit makliker om met my lys te werk of deur die â€˜SEARCHâ€™ van die LDS ?? > Groetnis. > Annelie.

Dora Opperman-Gericke 111 Fairhaven Aftree-oord Woodhead Rylaan, Humewood Port Elizabeth 6001 Cell: 0828768371 [email protected]

4a Graf op plaas langs die Vaaldam Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:17 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Faan Naudé, Rietfontein, Pretoria"

Vriende

Ek het op Kersdag 'n graf met die volgende grafskrif langs die Vaaldam afgeneem:

"In loving memory of Freda Minerva Etberg who departed this life February 12th 1919. Deeply mourned by her husband and children. M.H.D.S.R.I.P. [May her dear soul rest in peace] Also Catherina departed this life 29-6-1919. Deeply mourned by us."

Die koördinate vir die graf is 27º03'53.40"S 28º18'03.94"O.

Laat weet my asseblief of u in die foto belangstel, dan stuur ek dit aan.

Groete Faan Naudé Pretoria

4b Re: Graf op plaas langs die Vaaldam Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:38 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie

Môre Faan,

Voorspoed vir 2015. Jy kan dit aan Alta Griffiths stuur om op die CD te plaas.

Groete, Fanie Blignaut

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 27 December 2014 06:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Graf op plaas langs die Vaaldam

Vriende

Ek het op Kersdag 'n graf met die volgende grafskrif langs die Vaaldam afgeneem:

Die koördinate vir die graf is 27º03'53.40"S 28º18'03.94"O.

Laat weet my asseblief of u in die foto belangstel, dan stuur ek dit aan.

Groete

Faan Naudé Pretoria

5a Nel kenners Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:38 pm (PST) . Posted by: "ansu boyd" ansuboyd

Hallo almal

Ek is op soek na 'n Thomas Lodewikus ( Lodovicus) Nel wat in die Prins Albert distrik kon gewoon het . Het enige een van julle hom dalk in jul databasis?

Ansu

6 Re: Thomas Nel Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:42 pm (PST) . Posted by: "ansu boyd" ansuboyd

In aanvulling hy is gebore rondom 1892 op Witplaas, Klaarstroom en getroud met Aletta van Eck , sy was van Prins Albert.

Ansu

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6891 Datum: Sat Dec 27, 2014 Daar is 5 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1a Cutou Park ? by "Fanie Buys" fbuys1968 1b Re: Cutou Park ? by "Ronel Olivier" petronellaolivier 2a Re: HARRISMITH MARRIAGES 1891-1929 by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000 3 [Press] The Mercury Mon 22 Dec 2014 & Daily News Wed 24 Dec 2014. by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac 4 [Press The Independent On Saturday 27 Dec 2014 by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Messages

1a Cutou Park ? Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:12 am (PST) . Posted by: "Fanie Buys" fbuys1968

Middag Lyslede

Is daar iemand wat kan uitmaak wat die adres van verblyf, afsterwe is ? Ek lees Cutou Park.

Ek kry dit nie via die internet nie.

Groete

Fanie Buys Posbus 2924 Sasolburg 0829296695 Vanne: Buys, de Buys, Coetzee

1b Re: Cutou Park ? Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:15 am (PST) . Posted by: "Ronel Olivier" petronellaolivier

Waar kan ek vir jou gaan kyk . I s daar 'n "link" wat ek kan volg?

Oliviergroete Ronel

From: [email protected] Sent: 2014/12/27 03:12:27 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] Cutou Park ?

Middag Lyslede

Is daar iemand wat kan uitmaak wat die adres van verblyf, afsterwe is ? Ek lees Cutou Park.

Ek kry dit nie via die internet nie.

Groete Fanie Buys Posbus 2924 Sasolburg 0829296695 Vanne: Buys, de Buys, Coetzee

2a Re: HARRISMITH MARRIAGES 1891-1929 Sat Dec 27, 2014 7:58 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

Hallo Eddie,

Daar is ongelukkig nie `n maklike manier of deur die data te sif nie.

Ek maak net gebruik van meer as een oop 'venster' by `n dorp en terwyl ek wag vir die een foto om oop te maak werk ek aan die ander.

Op die manier wag ek nie. Ek het partykeer tot 4 venters oop vir verskillende jare van `n dorp..

Dus terwyl jy die data van die een venster verwerk maak jy nog `n browser venster oop, tik die verlangde nommer in die IMAGE blokkie en wag dat hy oopmaak, ens..

Ek stuur vir jou `n prentjie van my 'desktop' sodat jy kan sien wat ek van praat.

Sterkte. Groetnis. Annelie.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 25 December 2014 01:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] HARRISMITH MARRIAGES 1891-1929

Annelie,

Kan jy aseblief vir my die MOLL data van Harrismith laat kry?

Kan jy ons leer/vertel hoe om "maklik" deur al die data te gaan sodat dit nie nodig is om elke keer te wag vir die lang oopmaak proses nie?

Asseblief.

Eddie Otte Rustenburg 014 533 1318 en 081 042 0299 OTTE, MOLL, LOMBARD, VAN NIEKERK, VILJOEN 3 [Press] The Mercury Mon 22 Dec 2014 & Daily News Wed 24 Dec 2014. Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:37 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende ,

QUICKQUIP:-"One resolution I have made, and try always to keep, is this: To rise above the little things. " - John BURROUGHS.

DEATHS:-CAMERON Don + 18 Dec 2014 . Father of Garth, Neil and Ann. Father-in-law of Dawn, Carol and Andrew. Grandfather and great-grandfather. Funeral at Holy Trinity Church Musgrave Rd Durban on 22 Dec 2014 at 10am . OAKLEIGH .

GOVENDER Bobby (Iyavoo). 16th Day Memorial on 25 Dec 2014 at 299A McLarty Rd Reservoir Hills. Missed by Links and Henry, Devi, Lally and Sally.

JAMES Lynette Kookoo of Newlands East . Funeral on 23 Dec 2014 at Holy Family Parish Catholic Church Newlands East at 11:30am proceeding to The Redhill Cemetery.

MARX Pamela of Wentworth. Mother, grandmother and aunt. Daughter and sister. Funeral at Christ The King Parish Wentworth on 23 Dec 2014 at 10am. Cremation private.

NDABA Bhekizitha (Hope) Born in Umlazi -- + 16 Dec 2014 at age 59 of kidney failure. He was one of the original cast members of Umoja's a theatre production.

TURNER nee EYLES Ruth Olive 24 Oct 1919 -----17 Dec 2014 at Onrus. Mother, grand and great-grandmother. Aunt and great-aunt. Missed by Gavin, Johna, Tim and Sarah. Memorial at St Peter's Anglican Church Hermanus on 29 Dec 2014 at 11am Private Cremation. NASHCA Hermanus 028 3161659.

VAN ROOYEN Avril Lillian SUTTON x Joseph VAN ROOYEN. Mother of Megan VAN ROOYEN, Warren and Kyle DE WAAL and Marlon WILSON. Funeral on 23 Dec 2014 at St Michaels Catholic Church Redhill at 11am. Proceeding to The Redhill Cemetery.

MEMORIAM:- ELLIS Sam . 24 years gone now. Love from Robin , Pat, Bronwyn, Justin, Jonathan and Vicky. xxxxxxxxxxxx

DAILY NEWS 24 Dec 2014.

BIRTHS:- VET Kees & Sharon welcome a boy Nathan Paul * 18 Dec 2014Congratulations to Sas & Chris.

DEATHS:- MOLLETT Michael. Blessings to Jenny, Debbie, Greg and grandchildren from Nigel & Jeannette.

FACEBOOK FAN DIES at age 114 in Minneapolis:- STOEHR Anna * 1900 in Iowa -- + 21 Dec 2014. Mother of Harlan STOEHR. Sapa-AP.

LEGALS:- FIRST /FINAL:- SOOKGRIM Ashnikumerie ID 621120 0218 08 6 + 14 June 2014 of 25 Gledhow Mill Rd Larkfield Stanger x Ishwarpersad SOOKGRIM ID 600224 5046 08 1 .ESTATE No 23680/2014 DBN. SELVIE PILLAY & CO 28 Lindley Street Stanger 4450.

Gegroet uit Bedompige Durban om 1 uur op 28 Dec 2014. Rita Quebbemann

4 [Press The Independent On Saturday 27 Dec 2014 Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:37 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:-"Year's end is neither an end nor a beginning but a going on, with all the wisdom that experience can instill in us. " - Hal BORLAND.

BIRTHS:- CHRISTMAS BABIES:-GUMBI Nozipho a boy Langelihle * 25 Dec 2014 at Prince Mshiyeni Memorial Hospital.

MAHARAJ Kamil & Sita a girl * 25 Dec 2014 in uMhlanga Hospital.(They are from Verulam)

MAISTY Daniel & Varsha a girl Samarah * 25 Dec 2014 at St Augustines Hospital.Sister for Giana (18 months).

ELLIS nee BLAIR Kelly & Kentt a boy Brook.

NEUMANN Carl & Bianca a girl Clara-Jo.

PERKINS nee ORATOR Andrew & Romy a girl Sienna.

PIRRIE Rory & Coraline a boy Cale Gordon.

WHITE Richard & Carla a boy Jude Crooks.

ZEISS Trevor & Chantal -Twins.

ENGAGEMENT:- KOLLER -HARRISON Pete & Joanie is engaged on Christmas Eve.

ANNIVERSARIES:- SUTHERLAND nee FORBES Richard (Dickie) & Viginia Emerald .55 years married Congratulations from family in Wentworth . TEL:- 031 3371316.

DEATHS:- GREEVES Henry x Eva. Father of Ivan, Irene, Shirley, Denise, David and Cedric. Father-in-law, brother ,uncle and grandfather. From 22 Brusher Place ,Newlands East. Funeral on 29 Dec 2014 at 10am proceeding to Redhill Cemetery.

HOUSTON Nicholas David . Funeral at Souls Outreach Church Sydenham on 29 Dec 2014 at 11am. DOVES 0860025500.

JONCK Barend Matthys ( Ben) + 17 Dec 2014 x Dorothy. Father of Bennie, Lorette and Rudi. Grandfather of 6. Memorial on 29 Dec 2014 at NG Kerk Jo Naude Street Malvern at 11am Cremation took place privately. KIRKBRIDGE Gavin James + 17 Dec 2014. Husband and father of Debbie, Dylan and Emma.

KNIGHTS Frederick William 23 Dec 1919 -----23 Dec 2014 at age 95 x + Grace. Father of Wendy, Keith and Barbara. Grandfather of Tristan, Kara, Kieron and Daniel. Brother to George.

MZIMELA Nkosi Impiyezintombi + 25 Dec 2014. He fought to to defend the traditional leaders within the government structures.

NAIDU Vasuthanvan (Vassie) x Pushpa. Father of Shaun and Sharron. Father-in-law ,grandchildren and his sisters.16th Day Memorial on 1 Jan 2015 at 7pm .Supper at 5:30pm at 26 Pfanner Rd Marrianhill Park Pinetown.

NEL Michael James (Mike) . Son of Janet.Husband of Andrea. Father of Megan, Cameron and Kirsty. Brother of Robert. Son-in-law of Richard & Hilary. Brother-in-law of Steven, Loren, Laura, Shelley and Paul. Funeral at St Agnes Church Kloof on 30 Dec 2014 at 10am.

REDDI Govindama (Kamla) . Memorialon 3 Jan 2015 at Wyebank Funeral Services Hall Chatsworth from 3----4pm.

RORICH Edward + 23 Dec 2014 . Brother of Alton, Preston, Tyla, Chantel, Nikkita, Krystal, Shannon and RORICH family.

STEEL Cecil 19 Aug 1930 ----16 Dec 2014. Father of Mark, Kurt and Melita. Missed by his children and the Basketball Fraternity and Motor Industry. AVBOB 031 2061831.

THATHIAH Moses 24 Sept 1931 -----22 Dec 2014 x Runganagie Roslyn. Father of Selvin, Rebecca and Neville. Father-in-law of Abel, Lucia, Ingrid. Grandfather to Lauren, Kirsten, Allison, Cassandra, Byron, Roseanne, Sladen, Kris and Kelton. Great-grandfather of Liam Dwight TEL:- 031 4045763.

THULKANAM Preshan 13 May 1995 ----19 Dec 2014 .Son of Denzil & Premie THULKANAM. Brother of Lenessa THULKANAM. 15th Day Memorial at Arena Park Regional Hall ,Unit 6. Supper at 5:30pm Service from 7 ---8pm.

MEMORIAM:- BISSCHOF Charles. 24 years gone now.

CHETTY Seelan 1 Aug 1968 --- 26 Dec 2007 Missed by wife Thiloshini. Father of Shaylan and Desglan.

CLARKE George Arnold. Father of Tony and Alice.

COMBRINK Yvonne . Missed by her Nursing friends.

ENSOR Stephen (Steve ).Missed by Gran .; Wish you could meet my little girl from Greg.; Missed by Charles, Loretto and Jenna.

ENSOR Stephen Craig 12 Sept 1975 ----26 Dec 2009. From Mom and Ian;

GOTHI John & Andrina . Parents of Nicky, Rose, Prinolin and Leevin.

HATTON Desmond Joseph 13 April 1936 ---26 Dec 2010. Husband , father and Oupa. From Pat, Chantel, Greg and Tarryn. LATCHMANAN Melvin . 1 Year Memorial on 28 Dec 2014 from 3-4pm at Kings Function Venue. Missed by Parents , Dhanabalan & Rani. Brothers Glenvin & Donavin. Sisters-in-law Rivashnee nieces and nephews.

McKIE Craig John . 23 years gone now. From your mom and babes. Dawn.

ROBERTSON Joan . 10 Years gone now. Mother of Diane and Gail.

WILKINSON Geoffrey 16 April 1935 ---26 Dec 2013. Father of Lee.

Gegroet uit Durban nat en bedompig. Rita Quebbemann

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6892 Datum: Sun Dec 28, 2014 Daar is 7 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1a Re: Graf op plaas langs die Vaaldam by "ALETTA BUCKNALL" alettacfbucknall 2a Klerck koppelings by jvanzyl100 2b Re: Klerck koppelings by "Marietta" mariettavanzyl 3 HARRISMITH HUWELIKE 1891-1929 by "Johan Brink" [email protected] 4 FAMILIE NAVORSING. by "Naas Olivier" 5 Roslees van Heidelberg Transvaal by cvanzylerickson 6 [Press] Sunday Tribune 28 Dec 2014 by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

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1a Re: Graf op plaas langs die Vaaldam Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:30 am (PST) . Posted by: "ALETTA BUCKNALL" alettacfbucknall asb

On Saturday, 27 December 2014, 8:38, "'Fanie Blignaut' [email protected] [SAGenealogie]" wrote:

Môre Faan, Voorspoed vir 2015. Jy kan dit aan Alta Griffiths stuur om op die CD te plaas.

Groete, Fanie Blignaut

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 27 December 2014 06:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Graf op plaas langs die Vaaldam

Vriende

Ek het op Kersdag 'n graf met die volgende grafskrif langs die Vaaldam afgeneem:

Die koördinate vir die graf is 27º03'53.40"S 28º18'03.94"O.

Laat weet my asseblief of u in die foto belangstel, dan stuur ek dit aan.

Groete Faan Naudé Pretoria

2a Klerck koppelings Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:42 am (PST) . Posted by: jvanzyl100

Ek is op soek na verbindtenisse in die Klercklyn:

Rynhold Antonio Crozier Klerck gebore in 1842, is getroud met Mary Sophia Tait. Soek enige data oor die vrou soos haar ouers. Hulle het 'n seun Johan Reynold Gerhadus Klerck, gebore in 1873, getroud met 'n K Botha. Het geen inligting oor die vrou, haar ouers en enige datum.

Help asb. Jan van Zyl.

Ek prober my een skoondogter help. Het data oor haar ma, maar min oor die Klercklyn.

2b Re: Klerck koppelings Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:33 am (PST) . Posted by: "Marietta" mariettavanzyl https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20 &query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22Rynhold%20Antonio%20Crozier%22~%20%2Bsurname%3AKlerck~% 20%2Brecord_country%3A%22South%20Africa%22

Kyk hier bo

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 4:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Klerck koppelings

Ek is op soek na verbindtenisse in die Klercklyn:

Rynhold Antonio Crozier Klerck gebore in 30 Maart 1842, is getroud met Mary Sophia Tait. Soek enige data oor die vrou soos haar ouers.

Hulle het 'n seun Johan Reynold Gerhadus Klerck, gebore in 1873, getroud met 'n K Botha. Het geen inligting oor die vrou, haar ouers en enige datum.

Help asb.

Jan van Zyl. Ek prober my een skoondogter help. Het data oor haar ma, maar min oor die Klercklyn.

3 HARRISMITH HUWELIKE 1891-1929 Sun Dec 28, 2014 7:17 am (PST) . Posted by: "Johan Brink" [email protected]

Vir die WESSELS-belangstellendes.

Verwys na die lys wat Annelie vir ons as 'kersgeskenk'; laat kry het. Ek het tot eie voordeel daardeur gewerk en kan die volgende beeld-nommers deurgee vir dié wat in WESSELS-huwelike belangstel maar nie tydsaam wil deurblaai nie! (Die WESSELS-mans word met hul voorletters aangedui.)

M.J. Wessels x Du Plessis 8 H.P. Wessels x De Villiers 13 C.M. Wessels x Odendaal 57 J.M.K. Wessels x Odendaal 78 M.J. Wessels x Van den Bosch 90 M.H. Wessels x Wessels 144 J.P.Wessels x Muller née Wessels 151 Wessels née Bester x G.J.W. van den Bosch 164 T.J.H. Wessels x Dalebout 186 W.J. Wessels x Van Rensburg 227 J.C. Wessels x Marx 243 H.P.J. Wessels x Odendaal 252 H.N. Wessels x Brandon 295 Wessels x G.C.F. Potgieter 439 J.C. Wessels x Olivier 453 H.J. Wessels x Odendaal 500 Wessels x Boshoff 527 W.J. Wessels x Potgieter 564 Wessels x Odendaal 571 Wessels x Raath 572 Wessels x Scannell 575 Wessels x Potgieter 576 Wessels x Martins 595 Wessels x De Villiers 604 H.P. Wessels x Fourie 610 Wessels x Potgieter 625 Wessels x Gouws 626 Wessels x Eagar 648 Wessels x Joubert 656 J.M. Wessels x Truter 688 J.P.H. Wessels x Grabe 725 Wessels x Eksteen 768 Wessels x Eksteen 787 M.J. Wessels x van der Westhuizen 789 D.C.J. Wessels x Coetzee 803 Wessels x de Jager 814 Wessels x Hugo 855

Nuwejaarsgroete.

Johan Melkbosstrand 082 328 9453 [BRINK, EAGAR/EAGER, ANNANDALE en WEITSZ/WEITZ]

4 FAMILIE NAVORSING. Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:23 am (PST) . Posted by: "Naas Olivier"

Hallo Vriende:- Is daar dalk iemand in die De Aar omgewing wat familie navorsing doen, indien maak asb. met my kontak.

IPH. OLIVIER {NAAS}

TEL. 042 296 2120 CELL. 082 823 8945 FAKS. 086 762 4084 E-POS. [email protected] JEFFREYSBAAI. NAVORSING:- OLIVIER/BURGER - PRETORIUS/STEENKAMP - VERMEULEN/HUMAN - SOUNES

5 Roslees van Heidelberg Transvaal Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:16 am (PST) . Posted by: cvanzylerickson

Goeiemore al die lyslede

Baie geseende kersfees (al is dit verby) en n voorspoedige 2015 vir almal. As enige lid dalk informasie het oor die Roslee/Rosslee/Rosleigh familie sal ek dit baie waardeer. My ouma Christina Johanna van Zyl (Roslee) gebore 10 December 1906 Rooi Koppie Heidelberg, Transvaal, Suid Africa.

Baie dankie

Christa van Zyl-Erickson Auckland New Zealand Mobile no: 021 671958 Home no: 09 444 315

Research surnames South Africa: Van Zyl/Rosslee/Milho (Miljo)/Klopper/Senekal/Bezuidenhout/Grobler (Grobbelaar)/Opperman

Research surnames England: Malkin/Beezer/Simmons/Cobb/Bingham Research surnames New Zealand: Erickson/Hollows

6 [Press] Sunday Tribune 28 Dec 2014 Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:41 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:-" Whether we want them or not, the New Year will bring new challenges; whether we seize them or not, the New Year will bring new opportunities." - Michael JOSEPHSON.

BIRTHS:- MNTUNGWA Lizzie gave birth to a boy ,Sonyazi Simethembile MCHUNU * 25 Dec 2014 in City Hospital in Durban.

NKOMO Philile a baby sex unknown an no name given* 25 Dec 2014.

ENGAGEMENT:- FOLEY Peter & Pat announce engagement of Susan to Crawford, son of Kim & Miranda TAYLOR.

DEATHS:- NGUBANE Matsidiso "Brenda" + 21 Dec 2014 at age 51 at Mobeni Heights . She was sht by a male relative.Mother of Nontokoze. Brenda was a nursing sister.

SAMUEL Kumari + 26 Dec 2014 at age 42 years. She was shot. Wife of Reuben (51).Daughter of Pushpa GOVENDER and sister of Shunker (34). These people were also shot but are in hospital.

NAIDOO Poovesh (Preston) 16th Day Memorial on 1 Jan 2014 at Wyebank Funeral parlour Chatsworth at 11am.

Gegroet uit koeler Durban Rita Quebbemann.

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6893 Datum: Mon Dec 29, 2014 Daar is 15 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1 PARYS Dutch Reformed Marriages by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000 2 Andrea Alberta VENTER * Villiersdorp 1.6.1938, klerk † Villiersd by "Gustav & René Pansegrouw" 3 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 29 Desember 2014 by "Hester Marx" 4 BETHLEHEM Dutch Reformed Church Records by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000 5 Verlore skapies by "Johann Hanekom" johann.hanekom 6a Marx navorsing : Fotos Mosselbaai begraafplaas : ( N G Kerk) by "Cornelius Johannes Marx" marxcorneliusj 6b Re: Marx navorsing : Fotos Mosselbaai begraafplaas : ( N G Kerk) by "Carol Beneke" carolbeneke 6c Re: Marx navorsing : Fotos Mosselbaai begraafplaas : ( N G Kerk) by "ALETTA BUCKNALL" alettacfbucknall 6d Re: Marx navorsing : Fotos Mosselbaai begraafplaas : ( N G Kerk) by "Cornelius Johannes Marx" marxcorneliusj 6e Re: Marx navorsing : Fotos Mosselbaai begraafplaas : ( N G Kerk) by "Carol Beneke" carolbeneke 7 KOTZÉ x HANEKOM by "Johann Hanekom" johann.hanekom 8a GROOT KERK - Kaapstad by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000 8b Re: GROOT KERK - Kaapstad by cjohanvanbreda 8c Re: GROOT KERK - Kaapstad by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000 9 [Press] The Mercury /Daily News Mon 29 Dec 2014 by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

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1 PARYS Dutch Reformed Marriages Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:41 am (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

South Africa, Free State Dutch Reformed Church Records, 1848-1956 > Free State > Parys > Marriages 1884-1898 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-31288-9891-94?cc=1910846 &wc=SS3C-L23:183083201,183175201,1301816364

Marriages 1884-1898 beer; 48 - Image number. klopper; 24 - Image number. klopper; 55 - Image number. koen; 106 - Image number. koen; 39 - Image number. koen; 51 - Image number. lourens; 125 - Image number. oberholzer; 111 - Image number. oberholzer; 90 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 94 - Image number. rensburg; 114 - Image number. rensburg; 116 - Image number. rensburg; 123 - Image number. rensburg; 140 - Image number. rensburg; 23 - Image number. rensburg; 5 - Image number. rensburg; 63 - Image number. rensburg; 92 - Image number. stander; 129 - Image number. vermeulen; 105 - Image number.

Marriages 1898-1914 burger; 145 - Image number. burger; 185 - Image number. burger; 187 - Image number. burger; 50 - Image number. burger; 63 - Image number. els; 259 - Image number. els; 295 - Image number. els; 46 - Image number. jager; 18 - Image number. jager; 180 - Image number. jager; 227 - Image number. jager; 245 - Image number. jager; 8 - Image number. klopper; 205 - Image number. klopper; 22 - Image number. lourens; 106 - Image number. louw; 74 - Image number. merwe; 182 - Image number. merwe; 184 - Image number. merwe; 189 - Image number. merwe; 190 - Image number. merwe; 234 - Image number. merwe; 264 - Image number. merwe; 271 - Image number. merwe; 279 - Image number. merwe; 281 - Image number. merwe; 31 - Image number. merwe; 53 - Image number. merwe; 7 - Image number. merwe; 96 - Image number. merwe; oosthuysen; 235 - Image number. oberholzer; 125 - Image number. oberholzer; 92 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 194 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 226 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 26 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 280 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 288 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 313 - Image number. rensburg; 139 - Image number. rensburg; 171 - Image number. rensburg; 193 - Image number. rensburg; 203 - Image number. rensburg; 216 - Image number. rensburg; 286 - Image number. rensburg; 4 - Image number. rensburg; 47 - Image number. rensburg; 82 - Image number. rensburg; 83 - Image number. rensburg; 87 - Image number. rensburg; 90 - Image number. rensburg; 98 - Image number. scott; 127 - Image number. scott; 77 - Image number. swart; 199 - Image number. swart; 212 - Image number. swart; 232 - Image number. swart; 253 - Image number. swart; 276 - Image number. swart; 294 - Image number. swart; 39 - Image number. swart; 40 - Image number. uys; 249 - Image number. vermeulen; 283 - Image number. wernich; 243 - Image number. wernich; 159 - Image number.

Marriages 1910-1946 beer; 194 - Image number. beer; 219 - Image number. beer; 586 - Image number. beer; 781 - Image number. beer; 827 - Image number. beer; rensburg; 913 - Image number. beneke; 819 - Image number. beneke; lubbe; 646 - Image number. burger; 142 - Image number. burger; 211 - Image number. burger; 241 - Image number. burger; 598 - Image number. burger; 766 - Image number. burger; 289 - Image number. buys; 282 - Image number. de swart; 440 - Image number. dreyer; 478 - Image number. els; 339 - Image number. els; 37 - Image number. els; 557 - Image number. els; 638 - Image number. els; 74 - Image number. els; 774 - Image number. els; 779 - Image number. els; 891 - Image number. freishlich; 206 - Image number. greunen; 854 - Image number. vermeulen; 714 - Image number. horn; 191 - Image number. horn; 381 - Image number. horn; 385 - Image number. jager; 138 - Image number. jager; 23 - Image number. jager; 393 - Image number. jager; 434 - Image number. jager; 507 - Image number. jager; 562 - Image number. jager; 626 - Image number. jager; 632 - Image number. jager; 689 - Image number. jager; 793 - Image number. jager; 820 - Image number. jager; 860 - Image number. jager; 892 - Image number. lategan; 225 - Image number. lategan; 459 - Image number. lategan; 624 - Image number. liebenberg; 270 - Image number. liebenberg; 337 - Image number. liebenberg; 347 - Image number. liebenberg; 360 - Image number. liebenberg; 423 - Image number. liebenberg; 502 - Image number. lourens; 141 - Image number. lourens; 582 - Image number. lourens; 653 - Image number. lubbe; 556 - Image number. lubbe; 647 - Image number. lubbe; 826 - Image number. lubbe; 836 - Image number. lubbe; beneke; 914 - Image number. merwe; 12 - Image number. merwe; 136 - Image number. merwe; 42 - Image number. merwe; 426 - Image number. merwe; 439 - Image number. merwe; 49 - Image number. merwe; 491 - Image number. merwe; 550 - Image number. merwe; 60 - Image number. merwe; 682 - Image number. merwe; 763 - Image number. merwe; 770 - Image number. merwe; 840 - Image number. merwe; 878 - Image number. merwe; 885 - Image number. merwe; oosthuysen; 13 - Image number. merwe; oosthuysen; 226 - Image number. moll; 348 - Image number. moll; 505 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 167 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 237 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 238 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 272 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 284 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 365 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 375 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 380 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 389 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 417 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 548 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 59 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 6 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 665 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 67 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 725 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 805 - Image number. oosthuyzen; 92 - Image number. opperman; 618 - Image number. opperman; 802 - Image number. vermeulen; 621 - Image number. rensburg; 145 - Image number. rensburg; 260 - Image number. rensburg; 308 - Image number. rensburg; 388 - Image number. rensburg; 398 - Image number. rensburg; 402 - Image number. rensburg; 404 - Image number. rensburg; 411 - Image number. rensburg; 431 - Image number. rensburg; 457 - Image number. rensburg; 464 - Image number. rensburg; 466 - Image number. rensburg; 467 - Image number. rensburg; 488 - Image number. rensburg; 490 - Image number. rensburg; 517 - Image number. rensburg; 567 - Image number. rensburg; 588 - Image number. rensburg; 601 - Image number. rensburg; 604 - Image number. rensburg; 65 - Image number. rensburg; 675 - Image number. rensburg; 678 - Image number. rensburg; 726 - Image number. rensburg; 755 - Image number. rensburg; 775 - Image number. rensburg; 810 - Image number. rensburg; 817 - Image number. rensburg; 897 - Image number. rensburg; 902 - Image number. rensburg; 307 - Image number. robinson; 234 - Image number. scott; 321 - Image number. scott; 477 - Image number. scott; 544 - Image number. scott; 594 - Image number. scott; 617 - Image number. scott; 758 - Image number. scott; 835 - Image number. scott; rensburg; 843 - Image number. stander; 909 - Image number. swart; 10 - Image number. swart; 164 - Image number. swart; 169 - Image number. swart; 213 - Image number. swart; 223 - Image number. swart; 296 - Image number. swart; 31 - Image number. swart; 356 - Image number. swart; 546 - Image number. swart; 55 - Image number. swart; 568 - Image number. swart; 613 - Image number. swart; 650 - Image number. swart; 73 - Image number. uys; 212 - Image number. uys; 268 - Image number. uys; 27 - Image number. vermeulen; 160 - Image number. vermeulen; 576 - Image number. vermeulen; 62 - Image number. verster; 818 - Image number. verster; 771 - Image number. viviers; 192 - Image number. viviers; 687 - Image number. viviers; 861 - Image number. wernich; 21 - Image number.

Marriages 1949-1955; els; beer beer; 31 - Image number. beer; 32 - Image number. els; 21 - Image number. els; 64 - Image number. rensburg; 60 - Image number. scott; 34 - Image number. uys; 28 - Image number.

2 Andrea Alberta VENTER * Villiersdorp 1.6.1938, klerk † Villiersd Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:12 am (PST) . Posted by: "Gustav & René Pansegrouw"

Hallo lyslede en Venter kenners

Ek sal baie graag wil verneem of iemand vir my die huweliksdatum vir Andrea Alberta VENTER * Villiersdorp 1.6.1938, klerk † Villiersdorp 24.1.1975 (motorongeluk) d.v. Albertus Stefanus VENTER en Ester Antoinette VILJOEN # Slot v. Paarl (MOOC S/K 1311/75) het. Sy was getroud in Wellington c. 1957 met Michiel Hendrik (Millie) BURGER * ,,Windvlak”, Porterville 30.1.1930, boer.

Groetnis René Pansegrouw

Rangerweg 93, Vishoek, 7975 Tel./faks: 021 7826821 Sel: 082 4253973 E-posadres: [email protected]

DAVIS (vh. O'MARA)/ KITSHOFF/ PANSEGRA/OUW

3 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 29 Desember 2014 Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:40 am (PST) . Posted by: "Hester Marx"

Sterfgevalle

DE REUCK, John Smith (Sr.). +Saterdag 20 Desember 2014 na kort siekbed. Eggenote Jenny, John (jr.), Aurette, Gareth, Pauline, Martin, Jennifer, Alexander. Roudiens Maandag 29 Desember 2014 11:00 NG Kerk, Vierdelaan, Walmer, P.E. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 29/12/2014) Jan van der Westhuizen, Algoa Begrafnisdienste 041 363 4874

Hester Marx, Loerie [email protected]

4 BETHLEHEM Dutch Reformed Church Records Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:38 am (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

`n Mengelmoes van vanne..

South Africa, Free State Dutch Reformed Church Records, 1848-1956 > Free State > Bethlehem > Christenings 1872-1873 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-31285-10178-82?cc=1910846 &wc=SS3C-YWL:183083201,183083202,1301775355

Baptisms 1896-1897 els; 11 - Image number. els; 13 - Image number. els; 24 - Image number. liebenberg; 15 - Image number. liebenberg; beer; 4 - Image number.

Baptisms 1897-1898 heever; els; 9 - Image number. jerling; 5 - Image number. liebenberg; 15 - Image number.

Baptisms 1898-1902 els; 35 - Image number. els; 44 - Image number. liebenberg; 37 - Image number. liebenberg; 46 - Image number. liebenberg; beneke; beer; 7 - Image number. liebenberg; els; 36 - Image number. liebenberg; els; 45 - Image number.

Baptisms 1901-1903 liebenberg; 13 - Image number. liebenberg; 15 - Image number. liebenberg; 19 - Image number. liebenberg; 5 - Image number.

Marriages West 1927-1951 bower; 14 - Image number. burger; 213 - Image number. burger; 445 - Image number. els; 551 - Image number. homann; 158 - Image number. koen; 469 - Image number. koen; 569 - Image number. liebenberg; 129 - Image number.

Marriages 1947-1951 horn; jager; 119 - Image number. humphries; 39 - Image number. lourens; 19 - Image number. lourens; 46 - Image number. scott; 8 - Image number. vermeulen; swart; 73 - Image number. verster; 106 - Image number.

Marriages 1923-1947 bouwer; 21 - Image number. bouwer; 160 - Image number. bouwer; 367 - Image number. burger; 326 - Image number. coert; 11 - Image number. coert; 548 - Image number. coert; 684 - Image number. de swardt; 696 - Image number. de swardt; 590 - Image number. els; 551 - Image number. koen; 125 - Image number. koen; 267 - Image number. koen; 275 - Image number. koen; 412 - Image number. liebenberg; 366 - Image number. liebenberg; 614 - Image number. liebenberg; 718 - Image number. moore; beneke; 737 - Image number. vermeulen; 452 - Image number. vermeulen; 640 - Image number.

Marriages 1904-1923 burger; 697 - Image number. burger; 698 - Image number. els; 628 - Image number. homan; 683 - Image number. homan; 684 - Image number. homann; 606 - Image number. jager; 97 - Image number. jerling; 52 - Image number. liebenberg; 161 - Image number. liebenberg; 31 - Image number. liebenberg; 48 - Image number. liebenberg; 586 - Image number. liebenberg; 79 - Image number. opperman; 314 - Image number. swart; beneke; 284 - Image number. vermeulen; warnich; 39 - Image number.

Baptisms 1905 liebenberg; 13 - Image number.

Baptisms 1904 liebenberg; 16 - Image number.

5 Verlore skapies Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:52 am (PST) . Posted by: "Johann Hanekom" johann.hanekom

Liewe Lyslede

Ek het Hester Helena Hermina COETZEE in my familieregister, getroud met Gert Erasmus Smit HANEKOM *15 Jan 1848 + c 1942

Ek het ook vir Gertruida Paulina NN x Jurgens Johannes HANEKOM, met 'n seun Gerrit Erasmus Smith HANEKOM *21 Nov 1910 + 22 Jul 1996

Is daar iemand op die lys wat kan help om hulle aan hulle ouers en grootouers te koppel? Ek het ongelukkig nie meer inligting as die hierbo nie, en loop oral 'n bloutjie in my soeke om al die Gert/Gerrit Erasmus Smit/h name by die stamvader Erasmus SCHMIDT/SMIT te kan koppel

Voorspoedige Nuwe Jaar aan alger.

Johann Hanekom Lancaster UK http://www.hanekom.org.uk/gedview/individual.php?pid=I1967&ged=hanekom.ged

6a Marx navorsing : Fotos Mosselbaai begraafplaas : ( N G Kerk) Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:38 am (PST) . Posted by: "Cornelius Johannes Marx" marxcorneliusj

Naand lyslede

Vir die afgelope ongeveer drie jaar het ek weinig navorsing gedoen oor my familie en gevolglik het die brein so n bietjie geroes geraak veral om weer my ou skakels op te spoor ( en te onthou ) Ek weet dat daar destyds n projek begin was waar fotos van gragte in begraafplase geneem was Ek is op soek na die fotos van die grafte van die Marxse in die Mossselbaai begraafplaas

Kan enige persoon vir my die skakel gegee oor die projek of waar ek kan gaan soek vir die fotos

Met hartlike dank Johan Marx

6b Re: Marx navorsing : Fotos Mosselbaai begraafplaas : ( N G Kerk) Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:49 am (PST) . Posted by: "Carol Beneke" carolbeneke

Hello Johan,

Die skakel is http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=43

Groete, Carol

From: mailto:[email protected] Sent: 29 December, 2014 9:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Marx navorsing : Fotos Mosselbaai begraafplaas : ( N G Kerk)

Naand lyslede

Kan enige persoon vir my die skakel gegee oor die projek of waar ek kan gaan soek vir die fotos

Met hartlike dank Johan Marx

6c Re: Marx navorsing : Fotos Mosselbaai begraafplaas : ( N G Kerk) Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:12 pm (PST) . Posted by: "ALETTA BUCKNALL" alettacfbucknall eggsa grafte projek

On Monday, 29 December 2014, 21:49, "'Carol Beneke' [email protected] [SAGenealogie]" wrote:

Hello Johan, Die skakel is http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=43Â Groete,CarolÂ

From: mailto:[email protected] Sent: 29 December, 2014 9:38 PMTo: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Marx navorsing : Fotos Mosselbaai begraafplaas : ( N G Kerk)

Naand lyslede

Kan enige persoon vir my die skakel gegee oor die projek of waar ek kan gaan soek vir die fotos Met hartlike dank Johan Marx

6d Re: Marx navorsing : Fotos Mosselbaai begraafplaas : ( N G Kerk) Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:12 pm (PST) . Posted by: Cornelius Johannes Marx" marxcorneliusj

Naandse Carol

Dankie vir jou spoedige terugvoer

Sodra ek die skakel invoer kry ek die boodskap dat die blad nie vertoon kan word nie Ek jy vir my hulp

Dankie Johan

On Mon, 29/12/14, 'Carol Beneke' [email protected] [SAGenealogie] wrote: Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] Marx navorsing : Fotos Mosselbaai begraafplaas : ( N G Kerk) To: [email protected] Date: Monday, 29 December, 2014, 21:49

Hello Johan,

Die skakel is http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=43

Groete, Carol

From: mailto:[email protected] Sent: 29 December, 2014 9:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Marx navorsing : Fotos Mosselbaai begraafplaas : ( N G Kerk)

Naand lyslede

Ek is op soek na die fotos van die grafte van die Marxse in die Mossselbaai begraafplaas

Kan enige persoon vir my die skakel gegee oor die projek of waar ek kan gaan soek vir die fotos

Met hartlike dank Johan Marx 6e Re: Marx navorsing : Fotos Mosselbaai begraafplaas : ( N G Kerk) Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:23 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Carol Beneke" carolbeneke

Hi Johan,

Probeer http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php

Kliek op Gravestones in South Africa.

Hoop jy kom reg.

Groete, Carol

From: mailto:[email protected] Sent: 29 December, 2014 10:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] Marx navorsing : Fotos Mosselbaai begraafplaas : ( N G Kerk)

Naandse Carol

Dankie vir jou spoedige terugvoer sodra ek die skakel invoer kry ek die boodskap dat die blad nie vertoon kan word nie Ek jy vir my hulp

Dankie Johan

Hello Johan,

Die skakel is http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=43

Groete, Carol

From: mailto:[email protected] Sent: 29 December, 2014 9:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Marx navorsing : Fotos Mosselbaai begraafplaas : ( N G Kerk)

Naand lyslede

Ek is op soek na die fotos van die grafte van die Marxse in die Mossselbaai begraafplaas

Kan enige persoon vir my die skakel gegee oor die projek of waar ek kan gaan soek vir die fotos

Met hartlike dank Johan Marx 7 KOTZÉ x HANEKOM Mon Dec 29, 2014 1:08 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Johann Hanekom" johann.hanekom

Hallo Lyslede

Ek loop in die KOTZÉ geslagsregister op die PELTERET webwerf die volgende nota raak:

1.2.2.1.6.2.4 Hendrik Gideon * 23.5.1853 ~ Victoria West 11.9.1853 † “Goedgedacht” 5.6.1931 m. 25.12.1876 Jacoba Maria HANEKOM *

16.10.1856 † “Goedgedacht” 27.5.1938

There is a very useful brief history of the family of Jacoba Maria HANEKOM in “KOTZÉ * Geslagsregister : T J Kotzee en M G Louw ” H P Kotzé [pg.107]

Is daar dalk iemand wat toegang tot hierdie dokument, en vir my interessante brokkie kan aanstuur? Dit sal my dalk help om haar ouers te kan plaas…

Johann Hanekom

Lancaster UK http://www.hanekom.org.uk/gedview/individual.php?pid=I1967&ged=hanekom.ged

8a GROOT KERK - Kaapstad Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:37 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

More Mede Lyslede,

Is daar iemand wat my kan help met hierdie navraag aub....

Groetnis. Annelie.

This is an enquiry email via http://www.stamouers.com/ from:

Hi,

Waar kan ek uitvind wie die bouers was van die Moederkerk of Groot Kerk in Kaapstad?

Dankie Carel

8b Re: GROOT KERK - Kaapstad Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:42 pm (PST) . Posted by: cjohanvanbreda

Die argitek was mnr. Hermann Schutte. http://grootekerk.org.za/geloofsgemeenskap/geskiedenis/ http://grootekerk.org.za/geloofsgemeenskap/geskiedenis/

Vir ˜n meer volledige geskiedenis van die kerk, lees gerus:

Die Moeder van ons Alma! “ Geskiedenis van die Gemeente Kaapstad 1665 - 1965 deur H. C. Hopkins asook NG Kerk 350 waarvan George Hofmeyr die hoofredakteur is.

8c Re: GROOT KERK - Kaapstad Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:22 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

Baie dankie Johan, Waardeer dit!

Sal dit deurstuur na Carel toe.

Groetnis. Annelie.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 30 December 2014 06:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Re: GROOT KERK - Kaapstad

Die argitek was mnr. Hermann Schutte. http://grootekerk.org.za/geloofsgemeenskap/geskiedenis/

Vir ˜n meer volledige geskiedenis van die kerk, lees gerus:

Die Moeder van ons Alma! Geskiedenis van die Gemeente Kaapstad 1665 - 1965 deur H. C. Hopkins asook

NG Kerk 350 waarvan George Hofmeyr die hoofredakteur is.

9 [Press] The Mercury /Daily News Mon 29 Dec 2014 Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:20 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende ,

QUICKQUIP:- " You can surmount a challenge if you are willing to pay the price. The price is hard work. " - Tanzanian media mogul Reginald MENGI.

MARRIAGES:- MALEMA Julius &Mantwa MATLALA got married this weekend. Starting on Sat 27 Dec 2014 and finishing on Sun at Seshego Zone 1 in Polokwane, Limpopo.

DEATHS:- LONDON - HENRY Ron + in London at age 80 years. He was Totterham Hotspur's double-winning defender. He won one cap for England and the won the league and FA Cup double in 1961 He played 247 times for Totterham scoring one goal. -Reuters.

BOTHA Yolnda + 28 Dec 2014 in Kimberley. She had cancer. She was ANC MP.

JACKSON Shaun. Funeral on 30 Dec 2014 at Christ the King Church Austerville from 11:30 proceeding to Dudley Street Cemetery.

KNIGHTS Frederick William 23 Dec 1919 -----23 Dec 2014 (95). 1 year after his wife Grace.Father of Wendy, Keith and Barbara. Grandfather of Tristan, Kara, Kieron and Daniel and brother to George.

RORICH Edward + 23 Dec 2014. Brother of Alton, Preston, Tyla, Chantel, Nikkita, Krystal, Shannon and RORICH family.

MEMORIAM:- BOOYSEN Jeffrey Allan PETER 5 Dec 2008 x Charmaine. Father and grandfather.

Gegroet uit Durban .Matige weer op die oomblik baie muskiete en suiker (groot ) miere.

Rita Quebbemann.

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6894 Datum: Tue Dec 30, 2014 Daar is 8 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1 HANEKOM x ROSSOUW by "Johann Hanekom" johann.hanekom 2a Robbertze by "Helena Garner" 3a Re: PARYS Dutch Reformed Marriages by "Gerhardus Frederik Oosthuizen" cb3c1f365d1b4ecba877f6806f9d3beb 4a Lubbe; van Deventer; de Klerk navorsers by "Letty Riding" lettyriding 4b Re: Lubbe; van Deventer; de Klerk navorsers by "Leon Jansen van Rensburg" 5 HANEKOM x OTTO by "Johann Hanekom" johann.hanekom 6a Re: HARRISMITH HUWELIKE 1891-1929 by "Ronel Olivier" petronellaolivier 7 [Press] Daily News Tuesday 30 Dec 2014 by "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

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1 HANEKOM x ROSSOUW Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:59 am (PST) . Posted by: "Johann Hanekom" johann.hanekom

Liewe Lyslede

Hieronder verskyn alles wat SAG 5 oor die egpaar te sê het

Ek kry haar ook nie in NAAIRS opgespoor nie.

Hendrik Johannes HANEKOM = Swartland 26.1.1794 x Tulbagh 7.3.1818 Martha Maria Magdalena ROSSOUW

Is daar iemand wat my kan help met meer inligting soos haar belangrike datums, en haar voorouers?

Johann Hanekom Lancaster UK http://www.hanekom.org.uk/gedview/individual.php?pid=I1967&ged=hanekom.ged

2a Robbertze Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:47 am (PST) . Posted by: "Helena Garner"

Hallo Almal,

Ek spook steeds met die ROBBERTZE-Familie.

SAG v. 8 p. 255: e4 Izak Cornelius POTGIETER = Swellendam 11-5-1783, burger Uitenhage x Kaapsatd 8-2-1807, Johanna Jacoba VAN ROOYEN = 26-4-1789 xx Cradock 12-6-1836 Heyla Magdalena ROBBERTSE (wed. G. Myburgh).

SAG v. 8 p. 255 : f5 Isaac POTGIETER * Kaapstad 8-4-1814 + Kapkloof 10-10-1880 x Cradock 12-6-1836, Heyla Magdalena ROBBERTSE * Cradock c. 10-3-1814 (wed. Myburgh) + Klipfontein Albanie 21-1-1853 d.v. Jan Hendrik Robbertse & Heyla Magdalena De Beer xx Anna Sophia AUCAMP d.v. Pieter Josua Aucamp & Catharina Maria Pretorius. Hy is s.v. Izak Cornelius Potgieter & Johanna Jacoba v Rooyen

SAG v.8 p. 256: f9 Izak Cornelis POTGIETER * 19-8-1818 = Uitenhage 25-4-1819 + Caledonrivier 7-9-1886 x Cradock 2-8-1846, Hester Maria ROBBERTSE xx Maria Christina Johanna FERREIRA. Broer van f5

Vraag 1: Wie is nou eintlik met Heyla Magdalena ROBBERTSE op dieselfde dag getroud?

Vraag 2: f9 trou 2-8-1846 met Hester Maria ROBBERTSE. Wat is haar geboortedatum en wie se dogter is sy? Dit kan een van die volgende egpare wees: a. Jan Hendrik ROBBERTZE * 1742 + 1807 & Geertruy Jacoba VAN DER LINDE + 1752 + 1837 b. Jan Hendrik ROBBERTZE * 1775 + Oudekraal, Venterstad & Heyla (Hilletjie) Magdalean DE BEER * 19-7-1779 + 19-6-1842 Klipkraal Tarka (Meer waarskynlik h/d egpaar)

Kan iemand dalk help?

Groete Helena Garner

3a Re: PARYS Dutch Reformed Marriages Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:21 am (PST) . Posted by: "Gerhardus Frederik Oosthuizen" cb3c1f365d1b4ecba877f6806f9d3beb

Baie dankie vir die Oosies Annelie

GerritO Nelspruit

2014-12-29 12:41 GMT+02:00 'Annelie Els' [email protected] [SAGenealogie] :

> South Africa, Free State Dutch Reformed Church Records, 1848-1956 > Free > State > Parys > Marriages 1884-1898 > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-31288-9891-94?cc=1910846&wc=SS3C- L23:183083201,183175201,1301816364

4a Lubbe; van Deventer; de Klerk navorsers Tue Dec 30, 2014 7:23 am (PST) . Posted by: "Letty Riding" lettyriding

Hallo lyslede, Graag verneem ek of daar enigeen is wat die vanne Lubbe; van Deventer; de Klerk navors. Ek het 'n klipmuur of 2 met my Smith navorsing rondom hierdie vanne.

Dankie by voorbaat en mag ons almal in 2015 'n hele paar klipmure saam afbreek. Letty Riding (geb. Coetzer)

4b Re: Lubbe; van Deventer; de Klerk navorsers Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:02 am (PST) . Posted by: "Leon Jansen van Rensburg"

Naand Letty

Ek is besig met die Lubbe familie sukkel ook maar. Vra maar, en ek kyk of ek kan help

Groete Leon

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 5:23 PM To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] Lubbe; van Deventer; de Klerk navorsers

Hallo lyslede,

Graag verneem ek of daar enigeen is wat die vanne Lubbe; van Deventer; de Klerk navors. Ek het 'n klipmuur of 2 met my Smith navorsing rondom hierdie vanne.

Dankie by voorbaat en mag ons almal in 2015 'n hele paar klipmure saam afbreek.

Letty Riding (geb. Coetzer)

5 HANEKOM x OTTO Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:36 am (PST) . Posted by: "Johann Hanekom" johann.hanekom

Liewe Lyslede

Is daar dalk 'n OTTO kenner wat kan help om meer oor hierdie egpaar uit te vind (Hulle datums, en besonderhede oor hulle ouers)

Family Group Report

Family Petrus Albertus Hanekom + Ellie Johanna Otto

Husband Petrus Albertus Hanekom

Wife Ellie Johanna Otto

Daughter Maria Johanna Hanekom Birth 6 September 1884 Delportshoop, Cape, South Africa

Christening 4 January 1885 Barkly West, Cape, South Africa

Son Willem Jacobus Hanekom

Birth 20 September 1903 Delportshoop, Cape, South Africa

Christening 13 December 1903 Klein Boetsap, Northern Cape, South Africa

Daughter Ella Johanna Bertina Hanekom

Birth about 1911 Delportshoop, Cape, South Africa

Death 12 August 1918 Delportshoop, Cape, South Africa

Johann Hanekom Lancaster UK http://www.hanekom.org.uk/gedview/individual.php?pid=I1967&ged=hanekom.ged

6a Re: HARRISMITH HUWELIKE 1891-1929 Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:40 am (PST) . Posted by: "Ronel Olivier" petronellaolivier

Naand Johan

Baie dankie Waardeer jou mededeelsaamheid

Olivier groete Ronel

From: [email protected] Sent: 2014/12/28 05:17:17 PM To: [email protected],[email protected] Cc: Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] HARRISMITH HUWELIKE 1891-1929

Vir die WESSELS-belangstellendes. Verwys na die lys wat Annelie vir ons as 'kersgeskenk' laat kry het. Ek het tot eie voordeel daardeur gewerk en kan die volgende beeld-nommers deurgee vir dié wat in WESSELS-huwelike belangstel maar nie tydsaam wil deurblaai nie!

(Die WESSELS-mans word met hul voorletters aangedui.)

M.J. Wessels x Du Plessis 8H.P. Wessels x De Villiers 13C.M. Wessels x Odendaal 57J.M.K. Wessels x Odendaal 78M.J. Wessels x Van den Bosch 90M.H. Wessels x Wessels 144J.P.Wessels x Muller née Wessels 151Wessels née Bester x G.J.W. van den Bosch 164T.J.H. Wessels x Dalebout 186W.J. Wessels x Van Rensburg 227J.C. Wessels x Marx 243H.P.J. Wessels x Odendaal 252H.N. Wessels x Brandon 295Wessels x G.C.F. Potgieter 439J.C. Wessels x Olivier 453H.J. Wessels x Odendaal 500Wessels x Boshoff 527W.J. Wessels x Potgieter 564Wessels x Odendaal 571Wessels x Raath 572Wessels x Scannell 575Wessels x Potgieter 576Wessels x Martins 595Wessels x De Villiers 604H.P. Wessels x Fourie 610Wessels x Potgieter 625Wessels x Gouws 626Wessels x Eagar 648Wessels x Joubert 656J.M. Wessels x Truter 688J.P.H. Wessels x Grabe 725Wessels x Eksteen 768Wessels x Eksteen 787M.J. Wessels x van der Westhuizen 789D.C.J. Wessels x Coetzee 803Wessels x de Jager 814Wessels x Hugo 855

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7 [Press] Daily News Tuesday 30 Dec 2014 Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:52 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann" alettaqea9fac

Dag vriende,

QUICKQUIP:- " The most splendid achievement of all is the constant striving to surpass yourself and to be worthy of your own approval. " - Denis WAITLEY.

ENGAGEMENTS:- CHAPLIN Dave & Cheryl announce engagement of their youngest daughter Melissa to Jonathan, Son of Tony & Penny DEMPSTER.

HOUGH Rob & Veronica announce the engagement of their youngest daughter Samantha to Calvin WILLIAMS.

DEATHS:- ASHER David + 25 Dec 2014 x Dawn. Father of Craig and Tracey. Grandfather and brother to Peter.

BROUARD nee GREEN Corol Elsie Jeanette 10 July 1938 ---29 Dec 2014 x + Yves. Mother of Brenton, Alan, Yolande, Jackie & Kevin. Mother-in-law, grandmother and sister. Funeral at Our Lady Of Mercy Kloof Catholic Church on 2 Jan 2015 at 2pm. TEL:- 082 4554478 / 078 5569345.

BYRNE Zelda Louise 15 July 1922 ---22 Dec 2014. Mother, mother-in-law, grand and great-grandmother . Mpw with loved ones; Dennis,Kevin and Wally. Requiem Mass at Our Lady of Fatima Durban North on 2 Jan 2015 at 2pm. OAKLEIGH 031 2059959.

COURTNEY Mary Souza 17 May 1937 ---29 Dec 2014 . Mother and grandmother. Requiem Mass at Our Lady of Mercy Catholic Church Kloof on 3 Jan 2015 at 11:30am. OAKLEIGH 031 2059959.

DALTON Bill (Cliff) + 28 Dec 2014. Father of Gillian, Janet and Christina. Grandfather to David and Ashley. Memorial Tea on 18 Jan 2015. For Information call Gillian at 082 4936639. OAKLEIGH 031 2059959.

ENSLIN Vincent + 20 Dec 2014 at age 30 years. Murdered in a robbery in Pennington.He was a former Rugby Player from Nelspruit. Only son of Marleen & Hannes ENSLIN. Nephew of Linda HEYNS and Hendrik HEYNS. Commemorative Service at Corpus Christi Church in Aerorand , Middelburg on Friday 2 Jan 2015.

HARCOMBE Marian Iva 19 Dec 1936 ---27 Dec 2014 x Frank. Mother of Lynne, Kerry, Janine, Keith, Graham and Rob. Grand and great-grandmother. Memorial at Flame Lily Park Malvern on 2 Jan 2015 at 0930am . SHANLEY'S 031 2057644.

HARE June + 26 Dec 2014 .Mother, grandmother and mother-in-law of Mercedes, Arthur , Dylan and Olivia.

KIRKBRIDE Gavin James .Memorial on 2 Jan 2015 at The Assagay Hotel Assagay informal at 2pm. MARTIN'S Pinetown 031 7092142

Mc CAUL Michael 7 April 1923 -----29 Dec 2014 x Beryl. Father of Jen, Colleen, Lionel and their families. Grandfather of Rachel, Sophia, Daniel, Matthew and Liane.; Memorial on 2 Jan 2015 at St John's Anglican Church Pinetown at 10am.

MOODLEY Manogaran (Mano) Pachappa + 17 Dec 2014. Invitation from the MOODLEY Family-Saras, Govindamma, Kiruben, Yuvan and Shantal to 16th Day Memorial at Shri Vishnu Temple Hall Chatsworth on 31 Dec 2014 at 4pm.

PERUMAL Grace x Chris. Mother of Marilyn & Tanya. Mother-in-law of Mayson. Grandmother of Racquel, Ocean and Trinity. Sister of Pastor Emmanuel CHEMBIAH. Funeral on 31 Dec 2015 . Body will lie in state at Bethshan Church Asherville from 10:30am. Service at 12noon. Proceeding to Kenilworth Cemetery for committal at 2pm.

RIC-HANSEN Graham Charles (Rocky) + 24 Dec 2014 in Cape Town x Hazel . His family Warren, Heather, Shirley, Jo. Grandfather of Roxanne, Tristen, Jenna and Byron. Family Service in Cape Town.

RICKFORD Wyndham Hersent 25 Dec 1918 ----27 Dec 2014 x + Ethne (Joy) at age 96. Cremation private. DOVES 0860025500.

SIM Albert Charles (Albie) 5 Aug 1933 ----28 Dec 2014 x Marge. Father of Craig, Penny, Martin and Colleen. Grandfather of 9.; Friend of Dawn and Swanie.

SINGH Mahanderpal (Paul) x Indira SINGH. Father of Yashveen, Shamal, Tashveer, Sandisha. Funeral on 30 Dec 2014 at Clare Estate Crematorium Hall from 4pm -5:30pm Cremation thereafter.

WOOD Margaret 3 Aug 1919 -----24 Dec 2014. Mother of Stuart and Lesley. Motherin-law of Jacqui and Michael. Memorial at Doone Village Chapel Pinetown on 6 Jan 2015 at 10:15am. OAKLEIGH 031 2059959.

YOKO Val 23 Sept 1935 ----24 Dec 2014 . Cremation private . Celebration of her life on 17 Jan 2014 at 2pm at Victory Park La Lucia at 2:30pm.

ZONDI Constable Simiso + 25 Dec 2014 Murdered in the line of duty in Greytown He was 28 years. Father of 4 children and brother of two brothers and 1 sister.

MEMORIAM:-HARDOUIN Raymond + 29 Dec 1989 . Remembered by El, Graham, Dors, Tony, Tess, Craig and families.

VAN NIEKERK Dan + 30 Dec 1990. Husband ,father and grandfather from Jeanet, Denny, Thora, Christine, Maryna and grandchildren.

Gegroet uit Durban -reen sonder onweer. Rita Quebbemann.

Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 6895 Datum: Wed Dec 31, 2014 Daar is 12 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:

1a Re: Lubbe; van Deventer; de Klerk navorsers by "Letty Riding" lettyriding 2 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 30 Desember 2014 by "Hester Marx" 3 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 31 Desember 2014 by "Hester Marx" 4a 2015 by "Marietta" mariettavanzyl 4b 2015 by "Annelie Els" engelkind2000 5 [PRESS] Beeld 31 Des.2014 by "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie 6a Wense by "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie 7a Nuwe jaar 2015 by "Dennis Pretorius" 7b Re: Nuwe jaar 2015 by "Magda Schoeman" 7c Re: Nuwe jaar 2015 (Onwillige Uitteken asb.) by "Ockert Mostert" mcgyvermos 7d Re: Nuwe jaar 2015 (Onwillige Uitteken asb.) by "Dennis Pretorius" 8a Re: Famous Men's description of the Boers by "Pieter A du Venage (Tuis)" pieterprofile

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1a Re: Lubbe; van Deventer; de Klerk navorsers Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:35 am (PST) . Posted by: "Letty Riding" lettyriding

Dankie Leon, ek kontak jou direk.

On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 8:02 PM, "'Leon Jansen van Rensburg' [email protected] [SAGenealogie]" wrote:

Naand Letty

Ek is besig met die Lubbe familie – sukkel ook maar. Vra maar, en ek kyk of ek kan help

Groete Leon

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 5:23 PM To: SAGenealogie Subject: [SA-Gen] Lubbe; van Deventer; de Klerk navorsers

Hallo lyslede,

Graag verneem ek of daar enigeen is wat die vanne Lubbe; van Deventer; de Klerk navors. Ek het 'n klipmuur of 2 met my Smith navorsing rondom hierdie vanne.

Dankie by voorbaat en mag ons almal in 2015 'n hele paar klipmure saam afbreek.

Letty Riding (geb. Coetzer)

2 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 30 Desember 2014 Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:29 am (PST) . Posted by: "Hester Marx"

Sterfgevalle

DEYSEL, Jacobus (Dail). +Vrydag 26 Desember 2014. Diens Dinsdag 30 Desember 2014 11:00 NG Retief-gemeente, Despatch. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 30/12/2014) Heila, First Avenue Funeral Home 041 581 5028

DU TOIT, Stephanus Petrus. +Woensdag 24 Desember 2014. Gedenkdiens Woensdag 31 Desember 2014 11:00 Ou Seaview-weg 147. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 30/12/2014) Kevin, Fig Tree Funeral Home 041 367 3540

HENNING, Clive. +Woensdag 24 Desember 2014. Riaan, Nico. Begrafnisdiens Woensdag 31 Desember 2014 12:00 Algoa Kapel, Worrakerstraat, Newtonpark. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 30/12/2014) Miemie Gardiner, Algoa Begrafnisdienste 041 363 4874

SCRIVEN (née BRAZELLE), Bernice. 80 jaar. In lewe van Tarkastad. +Donderdag 25 Des. 2014. Kinders André & Chinese, Nico & Martie, Hanlie & Anthony, kleinkinders, agterkleinkinders. Op versoek geen diens. Verassing privaat. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 30/12/2014) Stones Begrafnisdienste, Oos-Londen 043 726 9828

Hester Marx, Loerie

3 [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 31 Desember 2014 Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:46 am (PST) . Posted by: "Hester Marx"

Sterfgevalle

GERBER, Ella. +Maandag 29 Desember 2014. Kinders, kleinkinders. Begrafnisdiens Vrydag 02 Januarie 2015 11:00 NG Kerk Hoogland-gemeente, Isobelstraat, Charlo. Forest Hill-begraafplaas. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 31/12/2014) Alfred Jones AVBOB Port Elizabeth 041 484 2731

MOSTERT, Helena Susanna (Lina). +Saterdag 27 Desember 2014. Kinders, kleinkinders, agterkleinkinders. Diens Vrydag 02 Januarie 2015 11:00 AP Kerk, Uitenhage. Spesiale dank aan Provinsiale Hospitaal, Uitenhage en AVBOB, Uitenhage. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 31/12/2014) Nosipho Mgengo AVBOB Uitenhage 041 922 8066

POTGIETER, Joseph. +Sondag 28 Des. 2014. Vrou Irma, seun Joseph, mamma en pappa. Diens Saterdag 03 Januarie 2015 10:00 Milnerton Huis Kapel, First Avenue Funeral Home, 1st Avenue, Walmer. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 31/12/2014) Heila, First Avenue Funeral Home 041 581 5028

WIESE, Johan Bernard. +Sondag 28 Desember 2014 in Port Elizabeth. Diens Vrydag 02 Januarie 2015 11:00 Landbousaal, Kleinpoort. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 31/12/2014) Marinda DOVES Uitenhage 041 922 8077

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4a 2015 Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:46 am (PST) . Posted by: "Marietta" mariettavanzyl

Ek groet 2014 met 'n dankbare hart Vir baie van ons was 2014 nie wat ons verwag het nie Diep in ons moes ons worstel met dinge buite ons beheer. Maar ons is daar deur! Laat ons 2015 verwelkom met Geloof en Vertroue in ons Saligmaker. Hy weet wat elkeen van ons se behoeftes is. Baie dankie vir elkeen se vriendskap, hulp en bydraes, Omgee en Liefde in die jaar wat verby is En my wense aan elkeen van julle is

VOORSPOED, GENADE & VREDE vir 2015!

Marietta L van Zyl Impala Park Sel: 0827765998 Tel: 0118945917

Epos 1: [email protected] Epos 2 : [email protected]

George van Zyl and Marietta Gouws tree Web Site

A death certificate shows you have died. A photo album shows you have lived.

4b 2015 Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:40 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Annelie Els" engelkind2000

Voorspoed, Genade, en Vrede vir elkeen van julle in 2015.

Annelie en Paul.

5 [PRESS] Beeld 31 Des.2014 Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:49 am (PST) . Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie

Ek Wens u almal 'n baie Voorspoedige 2015 toe. _____

Die Laaste Berig van 2014.

VAN NIEKERK; Hendrik Johannes (Hennie). Gedenkdiens: NG Kerk Wierdapark-Suid, Pretoria, 02/010/2015, 11:00. Private Verassing. (Beeld - 31/12/2014) Sonja Smith Begrafnisgroep, Pretoria, 012-654-9902 of 012-993-2807.

Groete,

Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie.

[Blignaut x Laubscher; Els x Blignaut; Pretorius x Bloem; Kruger x Pretorius.] [Bouwer x Meyer; Bouwer x Wild; Pretorius x v/d Merwe; Pretorius x Potgieter; Potgieter x Barkhuizen]

6a Wense Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:02 am (PST) . Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" blignautfanie

Naand alle Vriende en Familie,

One wens u 'n baie Voorspoedige 2015 toe. Mag die beste van 2014 die slegste van 2015 wees.

Groete,

Fanie, Hikkie en Tinka Blignaut

7a Nuwe jaar 2015 Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:14 am (PST) . Posted by: "Dennis Pretorius"

Hallo Almal

2015 is om die draai – vir sommige in New Zealand en Australië is dit reeds „n werklikheid ! - met vuurwerkvertonings en trompette geskal.

Ons 2015 is skaars 3 uur weg en baie van ons hou nou partytjie met geliefdes en vriende en maak voornemens om beter dinge te doen en ryker en sterker en magtiger en al daardie dinge te wees – ook om gewig te verloor en op te hou rook ;-))

My wens vir elkeen van ons lede is gesondheid en vrede vir almal – werklike vrede wat vir ons „n veiliger wêreld sal skep – en veral in Suid Afrika welwillendheid sal skep met „n diepe besef van ons afhanklikheid van God.

Mag julle jaar vir julle en julle naastes geseënd wees – en vol (familie)vreugde en ontdekkings !

Kom 2015 – ons wag vir jou met afwagting en geloof !

Dennis Pretorius Krugersdorp South Africa

Tel – 011-762-8911 Cel - 083-679-8541 Fax – 086-609-8541

7b Re: Nuwe jaar 2015 Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:19 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Magda Schoeman"

Goeienaand,

Ek gaan vir die Tweede jaar nou die nuwe jaar in met n groot hartseer.. My vriendin Koba-Marie Erasmus (nee Coetzee) MOES ons vandag in Pretoria langs haar kis groet. Partytjiehou voel vir my vanaand net so ondoenbaar. My hart is te seer.

Ek wens ALMAL n jaar van Baie geluk en Vrede toe en ook Sterkte met die hartseer en aanvaarding.

Ek wens elkeen wat n geliefde Verloor het in die jaar aanvaarding en begrip toe om dit makliker maak. En mag 2015 n slag n jaar van slegs vreugde wees.

On Wednesday, 31 December 2014, 'Dennis Pretorius' [email protected] [SAGenealogie] wrote:

> Hallo Almal > > 2015 is om die draai – vir sommige in New Zealand en Australië is dit > reeds „n werklikheid ! - met vuurwerkvertonings en trompette geskal. > > Ons 2015 is skaars 3 uur weg en baie van ons hou nou partytjie met > geliefdes en vriende en maak voornemens om beter dinge te doen en ryker en > sterker en magtiger en al daardie dinge te wees – ook om gewig te verloor > en op te hou rook ;-)) > > My wens vir elkeen van ons lede is gesondheid en vrede vir almal – > werklike vrede wat vir ons „n veiliger wêreld sal skep – en veral in Suid > Afrika welwillendheid sal skep met „n diepe besef van ons afhanklikheid van > God. > > Mag julle jaar vir julle en julle naastes geseënd wees – en vol > (familie)vreugde en ontdekkings ! > > Kom 2015 – ons wag vir jou met afwagting en geloof ! > > *Dennis Pretorius > *Krugersdorp South Africa* > > *Tel – 011-762-8911* > *Cel - 083-679-8541* > *Fax – 086-609-8541*

Magda Schoeman P.O. Box 12002 Garden Route Mall 6546 Tel: + 27 44 8890142 Cell: + 27 83 2257733 Fax: + 086 770 0942

7c Re: Nuwe jaar 2015 (Onwillige Uitteken asb.) Thu Jan 1, 2015 12:30 am (PST) . Posted by: "Ockert Mostert" mcgyvermos

Goeie more Dennis

Baie dankie vir die algemene Seenwense. Mag jou jaar ook net met rose besaai wees en alle voorspoed,vreugde en vrede he.

Ek het reeds op die 19de Des 'n e-pos aan die "Unsubscribe" adres gestuur aangesien ek 'n nuwe werk aanvaar het wat nuwe uitdagings en alles wat daarmee gepaard gaan, maar ek ontvang nog steeds posse vanaf die poslys. Ek neem maar aan dat daardie inboks lyk soos myne.

Alle groete en ek sal weer inteken sodra ek meer tyd op hande het.

Ockert Mostert 083 324 7065

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 31 December, 2014 9:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Nuwe jaar 2015

Hallo Almal

2015 is om die draai – vir sommige in New Zealand en Australië is dit reeds „n werklikheid ! - met vuurwerkvertonings en trompette geskal.

Mag julle jaar vir julle en julle naastes geseënd wees – en vol (familie)vreugde en ontdekkings !

Kom 2015 – ons wag vir jou met afwagting en geloof !

Dennis Pretorius Krugersdorp South Africa

Tel – 011-762-8911 Cel - 083-679-8541 Fax – 086-609-8541

7d Re: Nuwe jaar 2015 (Onwillige Uitteken asb.) Thu Jan 1, 2015 2:12 am (PST) . Posted by: "Dennis Pretorius"

Hallo Ockert

Ons is almal spyt dat jy nie op die oomblik tyd het om aan SAGen aandag te gee nie maar verstaan.

Ek herhaal net vir jou en almal anders die prosedure om uit te teken - dit word telkens onderaan elke e-pos aangedui :

Stuur 'n lee e-pos met Unsubscribe as onderwerp-lyn vanaf jou eie e-pos aan: [email protected]

Die meeste lede maak die fout om die e-pos aan die lys te stuur maar dit moet gaan aan die bogenoemde adres

Om weer aan te teken moet 'n lee e-pos gestuur word met die woord subscribe in die onderwerp-lyn aan: [email protected]

Groetnis

Dennis Pretorius Krugersdorp South Africa

Tel - 011-762-8911 Cel - 083-679-8541 Fax - 086-609-8541

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 10:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] Nuwe jaar 2015 (Onwillige Uitteken asb.)

Goeie more Dennis

Baie dankie vir die algemene Seenwense. Mag jou jaar ook net met rose besaai wees en alle voorspoed,vreugde en vrede he.

Ek het reeds op die19de Des 'n e-pos aan die "Unsubscribe" adres gestuur aangesien ek 'n nuwe werk aanvaar het wat nuwe uitdagings en alles wat daarmee gepaard gaan, maar ek ontvang nog steeds posse vanaf die poslys. Ek neem maar aan dat daardie inboks lyk soos myne.

Alle groete en ek sal weer inteken sodra ek meer tyd op hande het.

Ockert Mostert 083 324 7065

8a Re: Famous Men's description of the Boers Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:20 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Pieter A du Venage (Tuis)" pieterprofile

Hello Zena

Baie dankie vir hierdie plasing. Hulle het die Boere baie goed beskryf!!

Groete Pieter du Venage

From: mailto:[email protected] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 1:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-Gen] Famous Men's description of the Boers

Field Marshal Bernard L. Montgomery (British Army officer and a major commander of the Allied forces during the Second World War) Give me 20 divisions American soldiers and I will breach Europe. Give me 15 consisting of Englishmen, and I will advance to the borders of Berlin. Give me two divisions of those marvellous fighting Boers and I will remove Germany from the face of the earth.

American General, George Guts and Glory Patton The Americans fight for a free world, the English mostly for honour and glory and medals, the French and Canadians decide too late that they have to participate. The Italians are too scared to fight; the Russians have no choice. The Germans for the Fatherland. The Boers? Those sons of bitches fight for the hell of it.

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (author of Sherlock Holmes) Take a community of Dutchmen of the type of those who defended themselves for fifty years against all the power of Spain at a time when Spain was the greatest power in the world. Intermix with them a strain of those inflexible French Huguenots, who gave up their name and left their country forever at the time of the revocation of the Edict of Nantes. The product must obviously be one of the most rugged, virile, unconquerable races ever seen upon the face of the earth. Take these formidable peop le and train them for seven generations in constant warfare against savage men and ferocious beasts, in circumstances in which no weakling could survive; place them so that they acquire skill with weapons and in horsemanship, give them a country which is eminently suited to the tactics of the huntsman, the marksman and the rider. Then, finally, put a fine temper upon their military qualities by a dour fatalistic Old Testament religion and an ardent and consuming patriotism. Combine all these qualities and all these impulses in one individual and you have the modern Boer- the most formidable antagonist who ever crossed the path of Imperial Britain. Our military history has largely consisted in our conflicts with France, but Napoleon and all his veterans have never treated us so roughly as these bard-bitten farmers with their ancient theology and their inconveniently modern rifles. Look at the map of South Africa, and there, in the very centre of the British possessions, like the stone in a peach, lies the great stretch of the two republics, a mighty domain for so small a people. How came they there? Who are these Teutonic folk who have burrowed so deeply into Africa? It is a twice-told tale, and yet it must be told once again if this story is to have even the most superficial of introductions. No one can know or appreciate the Boer who does not know his past, for he is what his past has made him